Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #927 Primary TO BE CANCELED With Trump DISQUALIFIED, CA To Disqualify NEXT w/Michael Malice

Episode Date: December 21, 2023

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Michael Malice to discuss the Colorado GOP suggesting they will abandon primaries, Michael Malice advocating for a peaceful divorce in America, Ron DeSantis refusing to support Trump, & the Simpsons predicting the trend of Democrats releasing violent criminals onto the street. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So this would basically nullify what this ruling says. But that's not completely true. The ruling would also bar Trump from the general election as well. So if they convert from a primary to a caucus, sure, Trump can still win the caucus system and then maybe become the nominee, but doesn't mean he can be in the general election in Colorado, which means I believe about 1.5 to 1.8 million Republican votes removed from the popular vote count. We have a lot to discuss as it pertains to this.

Now, of course, Vivek Ramaswamy said he would drop out. He called on Ron Christie. Nikki Haley did the same. Ron DeSantis has come out boldly saying no way he will not drop out because he doesn't think it's legitimate anyway. He thinks the ruling will be overturned. And he calls us. I got to be very confusingly says it would play into the hands of the left to stand with Donald Trump and drop out of the race, which literally makes no sense. But sure, we'll talk about that. A bunch of other news surrounding this.

And of course, everyone's two favorite words as we're getting into this subject. But I'm not going to give you your satisfaction. I'm going to say national divorce this time anyway, because now you don't get to drink. Before we get started, my friends, head over to the best song ever dot com. Click download at your price. You'll get 35 percent off your next Casper purchase for a mere 69 cents. Buying our latest song together again can earn you 35% off any coffee purchase at

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tonight is going to be very very very fun michael's been hyping it up of course he's here he's already laughing and he was yes he's like we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna have a lot to talk about as it pertains to whether there'll be an election and Roseanne and stuff like that. So, okay. Okay. We're going to have a good time. So, click join us. Become a member.

And smash the like button. Subscribe to the channel. Share the show with your friends. As I already mentioned, Michael Malice is here. Hey, everybody. Glad to be back. Who are you? What do you do?

My name is Michael Malice. You can watch my show. You're welcome. This week, I have Will Chamberlain and Dave Smith discussing Israel. Next week, we have someone who I tried to get here

as a surprise to you. You didn't even know this. Last year on April Fool's, Meghan McCain. Ah. So she's going to be on my show next week recorded already.

But you came. It says she didn't come. Correct. Yeah. So, and my episode on Jordan Peterson's podcast where I get him to

convince him of the virtues of anarchism drops tomorrow. Oh, very nice. I'll get the wire. This will be fun. Hannah-Claire Brimelow is hanging out. Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow. I'm a writer for SCNR.com, also known as Scanner News.

I'm excited to be here with you guys. Ian's here. Hello, everyone. I'm back. Took a nice rest last night after our Turning Point excursion. I was wiped of those four days. But it was great to see everybody at the event. Really good to meet everybody.

Good to be a part of that. So I glad to be back hello what's happening serge yeah you were uh you kind of sold the show at the last little bit there that was great oh good i loved it it was good uh yeah hey everyone um super super glad you're here michael it'd be fun let's do this show let's roll from scnr.com colorado republican party says they will withdraw from primary and convert to caucuses if Trump ruling stands. Quote, a majority of the court holds that President Trump is disqualified from holding the office of president under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution. The ruling said because he is disqualified, it would be wrongful, a wrongful act under the election code for the Colorado Secretary of State to list him as a candidate on the presidential primary ballot. The lawsuit was filed by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics

and a DC-based watchdog group. This we know. Vivek Ramaswamy, of course, said that he would withdraw from the GOP primary until Trump is allowed to be on the ballot. In response to this, the Colorado Republican Party says you won't have to

because we will withdraw from the primary as a party and convert to a pure caucus system if this is allowed to stand. It's getting pretty dang wild, I must say. Now, as we mentioned in the opening to the show, that's great. It still doesn't matter because Colorado's Supreme Court says Trump can't even run in the general. So if this comes to January 4th, maybe even sooner, Trump is going to appeal to the Supreme Court. I think there's a very, very, very strong reason why the Supreme Court will say no. Many reasons, in fact.

Though many argue that the Supreme Court will intervene. It is yet to be seen. I feel like they probably will. I mean, this is way too serious. I think it would. Not only do I they probably will. I mean, this is way too serious. I think it would. Not only do I think they will, I think it would be 7 to 1 or 8 to 0 because the judicial branch since the beginning has been very reticent about getting involved when it comes to votes and things like this. They really like it to be. And Jefferson thought that the Congress should be able to supersede what the Supreme Court has to say.

They really don't like it when judges strike things off ballots and things like that or get involved. So this is the other thing that's very important from a legal perspective is Trump hasn't been convicted of insurrection. He's not. This is something that he's been alleged to have done. He hasn't been demonstrated and deranged. Isn't that so funny when Trump calls him instead of calling him deranged, just calls him deranged. Jack Smith chose not to charge him with insurrection so for them to unilaterally basically backdoor uh insurrection guilty uh conviction to this is really a bridge too far and when you start

interfering with presidential politics and you're like one state this is something the supremes really don't like doing because this is a big bridge to cross right and the Minnesota Supreme Court said no he didn't commit an insurrection this has to be decided by the party we can't take him off the ballot is that what they said that was minnesota that was their official they said i'll pull it right now but i thought their ruling was we do not have we cannot supersede the u.s constitution as terms in terms of eligibility they said they can't rule on something a major political party can can decide and they noted that he hadn't been convicted. So the thing is, like, there are already Supreme Court cases that say this doesn't work.

We have immediate precedent for conflict. And wasn't this 4-3 in Colorado, if I'm not mistaken? Yeah. Well, that was my thought, that it's immediately going to the U.S. Supreme Court. As it should. Well, why should it? Unanimous, be like, this is stupid. Why should it? Because this, why should it go to be, because it's such a big deal.

Yeah, Robert Barnes. No, I understand it's a big deal, but like, I do think the Supreme Court would intervene because it's a big deal, but I'll give you, I'll play devil's advocate here. Okay, sure.

If Starbucks decides to hold an election to determine the chairman of the board, should the Supreme Court intervene if Starbucks changes the rules as to how the election is held? That's a private company.

And this is a private organization, the RNC. Yeah, but it's not private because when you have, there's all sorts of regulations and things about who can get on the ballot, who cannot. Like, there have been laws, for example, like, you know, California is like a jungle primary in the general. There's all sorts of rules and regulations by what parties, because there's many states, for example, where if I want to make it that I'm the Republican Party, only registered Republicans can vote. They still made laws that basically if you're independent, you can vote. Different states, different laws. Then fair point, perhaps the Supreme Court does intervene for that reason, saying the

state has no authority to intervene in a private organization's electoral process. Either way. Either way. Yeah, it works. Robert Barnes tweeted out, which I thought was kind of great. Yeah, this is probably from 5 o'clock p.m. 458. So the easiest path for SCOTUS to take in the Colorado Supreme Court Trump disqualified case is to hold a court has no constitutional role in excluding a presidential candidate from the ballot in the first place.

That is a choice the Constitution gives to state legislature and Congress. However, this is a private entity that is being affected by this. But again, it's fair to say this is the state government intervening in a private entity. I think there's a strong argument, considering what we saw with Texas v. Pennsylvania in 2020, that is a 2020 to 2021. The Supreme Court simply says the rules for private organizations fall to the state to decide. The federal government has no grounds to intervene in what i and how a state decides uh non-profit entities operate or public good service entities operate but my thoughts also go to george santos who god bless him have you had him on by the way no oh you got it got him on uh

when there are a lot of people in the house and i think they had a fair point and i certainly don't have a particular lot of love for congress people when the congress people like we can't kick him out if he hasn't been convicted anything yet like this is really crossing a line that do you really want to go down this line where like we are just picking choosing who our fellow members are because that axe is going to be used against us at some point i agree i agree but the question is if a private entity within a state is engaging in a practice the state says no to can the feds intervene there are certain circumstances absolutely yeah i agree however i do think the democrats are going to start screaming ninth and tenth amendment saying the federal government

has no right to tell a state they can't run their own election as they see fit there's no question that you're correct because the democrats will take any you know opportunity like they'll be tomorrow they pretend the tenth amendment doesn't exist exactly exactly of Like they'll be, tomorrow they'll pretend the 10th Amendment doesn't exist. You know what I mean? Yeah, of course they'll use that. But that's the argument they'll use. Listen, they're also making the argument that preventing you being able to vote for Trump is saving democracy.

I love it. Actually, I sort of see this as an inevitability and an inoculation. Like the Supreme Court's going to make a stand and say, precedent, you cannot do it. Let's just set the precedent and move on. I think it's an inevitability

because the regime isn't going down without a fight. And I've been saying this for a long time. Everyone is aware of this. They're not just going to one day be like, you know what? We lost. Good game, guys. They are going to- Let's all shake hands and go home. Yeah, their entire- Yeah, this is phase one. Their entire- Right. Their entire-

Fourth quarter. Their entire ideology is you have to tweak the rules until you get the outcome that you want now in other cases that might be actually a good thing if we're all playing a game and somehow the game always ends up with ian winning even though we're playing fairly maybe the rules are kind of skewed for people's hair length i don't know you know it'd be really funny what i think you'd i think you're gonna agree will you play trail pursuit with ian no that's just fun that would be true uh donald trump appeals to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court rules it was an insurrection

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You'd get your national divorce. I want my national... The reason I use the term national divorce and not the other one is because... The other one, don't say it. I'm not saying it because I genuinely believe it can be done peacefully or very relatively peacefully. I am very concerned that even January 6th, a slight bit of violence or 9-11, which was a horrible tragedy and then 20 years of war in two countries had nothing to do with it.

So when you have this power establishment in place, any little bit of violence is used as an excuse by them to escalate things to the nth threshold threshold and the average people are the ones who pay the price and that's what i'm very concerned about i think we were at turning point someone was it charlie kirk or might have been tucker car i think it was tucker said that winston churchill in 1940 after world war ii broke out he just arrested all of the opposition party with no charge abraham lincoln arrested listen she didn't do that he had a war count cabinet i'll say that again winston churchill had a war cabinet with the labor party he didn't arrest the opposing cabinet uh then tucker carlson

was wrong he said that on stage that that uh winston churchill went in and arrested the opposition party just put them all maybe he meant like some kind of national front but not the not the labor party in maryland you had i think it was like 29 uh confederates sympathetic he rested the legislature yeah he just went and rested them all you're lincoln they created a uh a corridor between d through through uh maryland to dc that suspended all all uh what's the right way to put this um infringed upon your god-given rights well also the idea that you can't secede except for West Virginia. That doesn't make any, you know what I mean? That whole thing.

Yeah. West Virginia is very special. We're huge fans. I'm curious to see what will happen if the Colorado GOP does say, okay, we're not having a primary anymore. We're moving to caucus. If the RNC at the national level will come after them for that. Because again, that's a move to keep Trump on the ballot, which I think the RNC doesn't ultimately want either. I think Ronna McDaniel, I think Vivek's completely right. Even if you think she's a great person, I don't know her at all.

The fact is, where are the results? Like, where are the omelets? You've broken all these eggs. Like, I don't see any backbone in her. Ronna McDaniel's in the kitchen smashing eggs with a hammer, telling you she's going to make an omelet, but she's just smashing eggs with a hammer.

What would that look like? A caucus? Not pressuring her. She's trying to cook. If the Republican National Convention did a caucus, what would that mean exactly? It's not a convention,

just a Colorado state. A Colorado state. Like Iowa's the first state. They have a caucus. Basically, you get together and everyone gets up and gives a speech about why my guy's the best

and then I think you have a head count. I think that works. And so it's a bunch of people sitting in a room and it's like RNC delegates and things like that. Business donors? People show up. I think it's a lot of people sitting in a room and it's like RNC delegates and things like that. Business donors. People show up.

I think it's a lot of regular people. You show up. And then if you're the Democrats, you take three days to figure out what the votes are. Yeah. But it's because these are, in a technical legal sense, these are private organizations that can run their systems as they see fit. So when they decide superdelegates on the Democrat side to push out anybody they want to push out, it's because the game is rigged. I also want to make the point, and I'm going to make the prediction here, and I don't think it's going to – it's the kind of prediction where people at first, like, then they think about, like, okay, this is actually an easy, good prediction. I think the Democrats' plan B is not Gavin Newsom.

I think the Democrats' plan B is Hillary Clinton with Newsom as VP. So I'm staying it right here. If they pull Biden for some reason or if he's incapacitated, they're going to run Hillary and they'd be smart to do it. $1,000. It will not be Hillary Clinton. That if Biden's pulled. I'm not making a real bet.

I'm kidding. I'm making a reference to. Yeah, I got you. I felt like they were kind of teeing up Kamala Harris. You might be right. There's no way they're teeing up Kamala Harris. I don't know why they would pick her, but because they're sending her on this national pro-abortion tour,

she's basically already on the campaign. Because they don't want her making trouble in Washington. Yeah, they're like, stay busy. I'm serious. Did you see the- No, she's going on tour. They announced one date.

They're like, we'll tell you the rest of it later. Get out of here. The latest clip from her where she's like, this is the most election we've had in our lifetimes. And I'm just like, she meant most important, I guess. The thing is when your gas are worse

than Joe Biden's, it's really bad. Here's the other thing. Can you imagine being a guy who got put, can I use the B word on the show? Which one is that? B-I-T. I don't know, I guess.

If you call someone that word, it's a little mean. We don't care about demonetization. The swearing is usually because people might be in their living room with their kids. And really in general, it's about- I'll just say B. I'll say care about demonetization. The swearing is usually because like people might be in their living room with their kids. And really in general, it's about. I'll just say B.

I'll just use the word wench. I'll say B. I'll say. I got it. I got it. I got it. Can you imagine being some guy who's in jail in California because this witch put you in jail?

Like you're watching. You're like, how the hell did she convince this jury? Yeah. She's just cackling at my crimes. Like maybe they don't recognize her because of that facelift right before she came out as VP. Yeah. You never know.

There's a huge change. So we were going to save, I was going to save this because there's a lot of news to get to, but Michael did bring this up. We have this map we've talked about a couple times now. This is the A24 Civil War movie map showing their vision of a fictional civil war. Now, Michael, you just said you think there's a way to have a peaceful national divorce. Yes. I have my own map.

I disagree with you okay let's you can you can dm me it can you i'll do that right now send it dm me uh i disagree i don't believe it's possible to have a peaceful civil divorce a peaceful civil uh national divorce um it happened okay the the thing about the term peaceful and i hear what you're saying i'm not saying literally no violence, but I'm saying it could be the kind of thing that's resolved quite quickly. Because a lot of times, just like with nature,

let's use another example. You have a big animal, like a tarsier, it's a protosimian, I saw a video, and it's trying to eat a praying mantis, which is like a hundredth of its size, and that mantis just strikes for its eyes, and then the tarsier's like, oh crap, this is a problem. So a lot of times, if there's enough enough of pushback people go to the negotiating table that's all do you send it no i'm sending it right now so i i suppose where i i don't think what you're what

you're saying in any way conflicts with what my view would be sure you could have a dissolution of the united states rapidly and very quickly and then you will see a growing escalation to full-scale war at some point and some point relatively quickly to the dissolution of the United States. We're talking about we already have conflict between states over resources, over food, over water. We already have conflict over weapons. When you consider that some states have access to nuclear weapons, there can't be a simple dissolution of of these of these agreements you'd you'd instantly have nuclear powered countries staring down and facing down country other states and they might say something like your state owes us x for these past grievances and then you will you will instantly start to see

conflict now i don't think nuclear weapons we have to worry about i think it'll be absolutely insane considering the distribution of resources in the United States. And what's a really fascinating idea that I was exploring with a creative IP I was looking at is as we hyper centralize the production. This is the bottom one. I sent you two by mistake. As we hyper centralize the production of various resources, like we have the frack fields in North Dakotaota you will end up with regions dominant in a singular production so california's food we just do all our food in california basically a third a third of our food or something like that you've got the frack fields in north dakota producing more energy

than any other part of the country or uh presumably and you have certain areas that are all coastal trade some the rust belt i mean maybe it used to be this way but because of rail because of freight we've centralized these resources it's going to be very strange if the country breaks apart and one nation or one state says we need oil and they start knocking on north dakota's door north dakota all of a sudden becomes one of the wealthiest states in the world things like that um when we were on the blaze for election night, I just sent you the, I sent it twice by mistake. That's the bottom one. We all asked what?

This is your map. Yeah. That's it. So that's my map for national divorce. When we were on the blaze, we all had to go around and say what we thought it would look like. Tim, all your points are taken

and I don't think they're inaccurate at all. But I'm thinking about like North Korea and South Korea have nukes pointing at each other. Negotiation is not going to be easy, but I always go back to Thomas Sowell, right? And the question he asked is, as compared to what? I think the status quo is also going to be Washington increasingly getting militaristic.

I think especially the stuff going on with schools and kids, when you have things like sanctuary states for like trans kids and things like that, what California is going to be doing. I think parents are going to be increasingly radicalized and so on and so forth. And at a certain point, things are going to reach ahead. The question is, is it going to be full-blown blitzkrieg

or is it going to be like something pops off and then cooler heads are like okay guys this is getting crazy and if things get crazier even further it's really getting out of hand so we have to figure something out I think everything you're saying plays very well to the A24 films map

I don't see we talked about earlier do you want to break it down because I think there's some things I would tweak with this map but yeah so I think the first thing to consider is when the when the movie trailer first comes out everyone says why are texas and california aligned and aligned that makes no sense it makes perfect sense it really does but are they aligned really yes this is this is this map is plausible and what that means is you can certainly make an argument for why you think it would not fall this way but in terms of how they're envisioning this film and what a divided America could look like, I actually think this is very plausible.

I don't know if it's the most probable. There's a lot of arguments that we can make as political junkies. But the reason why California and Texas would be in an alliance is not because they share values. It's because neither wants to be conquered by D.C. Sure. That's it. I think Kentucky and Tennessee are extremely close culturally. it's because neither wants to be conquered by dc sure that's it i i think kentucky and tennessee are extremely close culturally so to find that line is really kind of odd to me no in terms of

plausibility you could easily like look when the civil war but the other thing is just because they're too they're either i can't i'm blind are they aligned in that they're the same country or they're just aligned in like an alliance like new york like us and canada are aligned the republic of texas and california are two different republics that have an alliance oh yeah that's that's very plausible absolutely absolutely plausible case now yes and you may be arguing you know why is you know kentucky and tennessee split military occupation by dc and moved in very quickly into uh into uh kentucky to stop uh or into where i stopped the other way around. They move into Tennessee to prevent Kentucky or vice versa.

That's just deus ex machina for a film. We can make any argument about what may happen. The point you made was really key, and I think people didn't understand this. If it does blow out to full-blown violence, and I pray to God it does not, state lines become irrelevant. Yeah, you look at geographical borders,

rivers and mountains. So the Ohio River would be one, the Mississippi River, the Rocky Mountains would be one. This Oklahoma panhandle is not going to be a thing. It's not possible. And that's why actually a lot of the eastern state borders would stand. Yeah. Because a lot of them were built, were formed simply because of geography.

But I look, you know, New England is a joke, right? This is one block. This whole thing, it's just instantly new york and massachusetts i disagree because new hampshire has a lot of people there and they've been planning for this they it's if you have you have elected a democrat governor didn't they yeah but the but the thing is there's everything what's uh intensity of opposition right so if you have a cadre of like 10 of the population who are really out of their minds and really want New Hampshire to be independent, it's going to be really hard to put those down.

You know, Luke would come here all the time and advocate for us to move to New Hampshire because of the Free State Project. And I'm like, my friend, you are surrounded on all sides by leftist forces. I will say there are, because like upstate New York and like upper Maine are different. They tend to vote red.

I mean, obviously Maine has Angus King, one of our only independents. There are potential like rebel factors in there. Is he already an independent? He coxies with Democrats, for sure. I just mean symbolically, like there are there is a stratification within those regions. I just don't think it's enough

to say that they would be able to fight off. I think it would be like you were saying before, like Seattle will have this one blue center, but ultimately that region is cold and i think you would have discontent in new england but i don't think it would be enough to manage and a main new and a main democrat or even a connecticut democrat is not the same as an la democrat right at all i mean honestly i think that was more the case at 10 years ago but as you see now with like west virginia and you see we really don't have any blue dog democrats anymore correct so the internet is you know who's the the one blue dog democrat who is it my hero john fetterman yeah i guess he's not the

craziest 2023 story art i i called i i contribute his campaign i i spotted this guy from a mile away you can't miss him there are funny memes of YouTube thumbnail. The meme is a YouTube thumbnail of Fetterman saying why I left the left. But in all seriousness, people are like, how did you predict this guy so well? John Fetterman, he is one of these old school lefties who think the point of government is to help people who've been screwed over by the system, whether it's food stamps or whatever, who thinks politics can be honorable and that politicians shouldn't be put themselves on a pedestal and are just like someone trying to make the world a better place. So that old school Democrat stuff, which is almost kind of late sixties, that's him. So when people are surprised that he's taking these stances, I'm like,

it makes perfect sense that he call it corruption because in his point, government is something that can be used to help people who have been screwed over and if that argument is one that i don't hate and i say this is an anarchist there's a lot of people who when it comes to the topic of civil war like to point out that uh the entire country is red except for the cities and that should civil war actually happen new york for instance is red new york city would not be able to sustain itself. But I agree with that general idea, but people don't understand that in Virginia, for instance, regular people going to and from work

aren't going to be thinking about this. And so long as there is a weaponized law enforcement or militaristic faction that controls trade routes, those people will be subservient and loyal to whatever the dominant violent faction is there's two questions that i would have to break out one is and everyone says they have the answer and they don't because you could say one thing theoretically when when s hit the fan it's a very different situation no one knows what the actual military would do a lot of people are saying they would

never fire on their own people wrong bullcrap every country has that we don't know percentage though it could be like 100 i'll do it 10 how do you work that number two what just another point is we don't know how effective the corporate press will be in this situation at manipulating public opinion i think uh there was there was a graph that came out showing the ratings from the past week did you see it no corporate press is it's apocalyptic the numbers that are dropping it's it's it was really insane i think like msnbc dropped 15 in a week or something yeah but just because you don't trust them if they're the only people you listen to you're gonna say i hate him but you're still gonna listen to them if the internet gets shut down yes and it can be that people need to understand

it is possible to disrupt the internet very very easily the internet as we know it it is impossible to stop internet communications but centralized sources of information axis one for instance where we go to yes that's the hub these things can all be shut down relatively easily and then all you have is the new york times right and do you believe them and they? And that's what you will, that's it. But I will say, absolutely, the militaries, any branch, would shoot American citizens. And I believe in the event of some kind of accident. As they have done in the past. Yeah, I can't state. I mean, brutal.

And I'm not arguing it was right or wrong. You can argue, yeah, but they were throwing rocks. I'm like, oh, they shot Americans. It happened. Like, they opened fire and the guy got one for four days. As if there wouldn't in this situation be plenty of false flags. Oh, absolutely.

Absolutely. And, and I want to drive this point home. The most dangerous thing I think our country faces is not the Clintons. It's not the Democrats. It's not the neolibs. Not the neocons. It's not Trump.

It's not Trump. Certainly not Trump. Trump's one of the more positive forces in my opinion. It is. It is one simple thing. It's not the neolibs. It's not the neocons. It's not Trump. It's not Trump. Certainly not Trump. Trump's one of the more positive forces, in my opinion. It is one simple thing the biggest threat this country faces. It is the men and women of law enforcement and the armed forces who hold the ethos, I should just do my job. The most dangerous thing imaginable. Okay. I have just done my job, so I should probably leave.

Because that's the song I've been singing. I know. I'm not saying you don't know, but I'm just saying it's just delightful for me to hear someone who is much more mainstream in his views and more moderate than I to see very clearly this is what it comes down to. You're calling me mainstream, but... I mean, you're not a... In between the fringe far-right Michael Malice's and the corporate press maybe.

Sure, sure. We talked about this with Owen Schroyer. He said when he talked about a martyr when he went when he went to prison to the prison guard saying hey i'm familiar through work i'm actually a fan but i'm just doing my job man i would have looked him in the eye and say you are the evil i'm fighting against yes if these prison guards went to their bosses and said i am putting a hand on owen schroyer and i'm not going to have any party to what you're doing to him you find somebody else and if they said i will fire you my response would be my paycheck is not worth my soul but do you think that's what they but they all just said i don't care i'll lock up a guy i like because i get my paycheck in that voice in that exact voice

these are live audio recordings i have the documents but do you think part of it is that we are a country or people without clearly defined values? I think people don't really know what they stand for. So it's easy to say, well, I just have to stand by my paycheck.

I think conservatives very much advocate, and this is not generally a wrong thing. I think this is actually a good rule in general to play by the rules and be a good person

and not be a troublemaker. But they apply that literally like 100% of the time. And sometimes you want to make trouble because otherwise the trouble's here already. I just want to point out real quick, when you search Google for US civil war, the fourth story is Trump barred

from Colorado primary ballot for role in US Capitol attack. So, and that's from one hour ago. So you have civil war history, never Trumpers geared for civil war. First of all, what role did he have even allegedly he said go over there peacefully and make your voice heard this is first and then he said respect law enforcement we respect law enforcement everyone should go home but but he's crazy he was out of control assembling a crowd i i i don't like the

democrats and what they're doing there's a lot of republicans i also don't like the Democrats and what they're doing. There's a lot of Republicans I also don't like, but there's a handful that are okay. But none of that terrifies me. What terrifies me is police officers, U.S. servicemen and women, and prison guards who know they're standing alongside the devil. And you can call that figurative or literal if you are someone of faith. It's viewed as literal. can view it as spiritual or as as a pragmatic i'm saying quite literally when i heard that from owen schroyer these prison guards may as well have been the demons fighting alongside satan himself they know what they're doing is wrong they know they're on the on the

side of evil and they don't care and here's the other thing it'll be one thing they got a family to feed if they tried looking for other jobs nothing came up and it's like look it's either this or my kids starve then i can that's fine but they haven't tried looking for other jobs and the other thing is i've modulated my views on the police a little bit because I've spent way too much time watching police body cam footage on YouTube. And apparently now snuff films are a thing. You just go on YouTube and watch people get murdered. There are channels dedicated to nothing but. Yeah.

And a lot of times you respect the police a lot more because they're dealing with an absolute maniac who's just complete. They have to be like, sir or ma'am. And it's just like, I feel like this is your job. I feel for you. But then there's videos of some mentally disabled guy having a problem at Target with the self-checkout and they're just manhandling him. And the guy's like in this voice being like, I didn't do anything.

And I'm like, if you're putting your hands on someone who is mentally disabled or elderly or a child, cause they're having a problem with the cashier. Yeah, why did Target call this begin with? Okay, it's a separate question. And you can look at yourself in the mirror you're a demon i mean this is why the country is falling apart you have many of these leftists and democrats that want to abolish the police but i mean i think the fair point is they want to abolish policing that's the thing you and i want to abolish hold on let me say one thing

we want to abolish the police and that we don't want a government monopoly but they don't want people to be put in jail. Well, I actually disagree. My point I was going to make is they will actually say whatever they need to say. Oh, sure. That's fair. Right.

Yes. Yeah. They'll say today, these police are evil. Then when the cops come and mercilessly beat you, they'll laugh while it happens. Yeah. Oh, yeah. When the cops arrest Derek Chauvin,

they clap and cheer. Look at Jimmy. Okay, here's another example. Look at Jimmy Kimmel, who's crying because his kid was sick and I don't want you to listen to almost anybody. And my heart goes out to that kid. And then he's literally laughing.

Like you didn't get vaccinated and you go to the hospital and you're not getting treatment. Sorry, coffee. And the audience laughs. And it's just like, you're a demon. Yeah, I'm done defending these people. I'm not going to say anything about his child.

I'm done defending them or saying anything nice about them. I had this view in the 2010s about free speech where I was like, we have to defend free speech even for the people that we don't like because that's the point of free speech. And so you had these leftists and these woke people saying no free speech. Then they would get censored and I'd come out along with everyone else and say, unban them. That was wrong. We believe in free speech.

They would get unbanned and say, thank you. Immediately then go now ban them. And then I had the realization, you know what? Free speech extends to those who believe in free speech. End of story. If these people come out and they cry, what about my free speech? I'll say, you don't deserve it because you don't want it. I will give you exactly what you ask for. If they start banning people who believe in free speech, I will advocate for their free speech, but I will not defend people who are trying to burn it to the ground. When Frank Herbert had this great quote in Dune, he goes, when I'm weaker than you, I ask for freedom because that is according to your principles. And when I'm stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles. Exactly. That's exactly the thing. I've never been for free speech. I hate that term.

I've always thought freedom of association is much more important than free speech if you want to go talk in some closet and have your own microphone that's fine but there's plenty of reasons why i don't want you on my platform i don't want to be associated with you if only because you're just obnoxious bring nothing to the table let's jump to this next story from the post-millennial california moves to explore every legal option to get trump off the 2024 ballot by December 28th. Guys. Okay, Michael. I'm going on vacation.

Right? We wrap Friday and then I'm gone. We got to get one week out of the year. And they're trying to make Trump kicked off the ballot during my vacation. What am I going to do? They knew you were leaving. They're like, this is our time. But hold on.

Here's something else that's interesting. And there's something to think about. I't think gavin newsom is dumb i think he is strategic in many ways they there's zero chance trump wins california so this is clearly them building steps for the future because he's not at all concerned trump is going to be get california but that's not what it's about. It's about 10 million Republican votes in California that count towards Trump's general election. And so what's going to happen is Donald Trump will win the electoral college with 50 million to Joe Biden or whoever is 70 million. Then the Democrats will come out screaming being like, ladies and gentlemen, the man who is currently giving the nuclear football does does not represent this country they say that now with the senate of course like oh like why it's not fair that west virginia has the same number of senators as california well it actually is fair they each have equal numbers because they're states that's why they did it that was

the point the point as they know as they know yep so i think you know it is i'm sorry what's one more thing, Tim? The thing about free speech. Free speech is great if people are arguing in good faith. But there's a difference between someone who's just a leftist that has progressive views. And there's lots of people. And there's many strong arguments for progressivism. Things like this that are being done on political government level are not being done in good faith.

This is. That's the difference. This is the bigger issue with getting Trump's name off the ballot. Removing him from the primaries on Super Tuesday. Yeah, they don't think Trump will win a general election. They would strip him of popular vote totals. But more importantly,

they remove Trump from the ballot before the primary. Nikki Haley is the nominee. But also they can this way, just say, look, if you're a member of the NRA, you're an insurrectionist. You can't run office yeah it's just that easy i look i just don't see any future that doesn't involve if it's not a civil war it's a totalitarian uh revolution of some sort it's a

bolshevik revolution i i strongly disagree that those are the two things on the table. I'm not saying only. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Okay. I'm saying like, there is no return to normalcy. But it was never normal. We were just brainwashed to thinking it was normal. I understand that. But we had a period. What I mean is, for those of us between the ages of, you know, let's just say 20 and 40, we had a system that is gone. Yes, correct. 20 and 40 we had a system that is gone yes and what we are going into will be 100 times more

extreme and more tumultuous than anything we've experienced i agree with that completely and that's a good thing i think that's necessary i think you need the enema to get rid of the poop yeah it could be a short-term relatively short-term bout of chaos no i don't think short-term well you got to define it could be 15 years that's pretty long term that would be short term in my opinion well the civil war is only four yeah but i mean i'm talking like real global the american revolution was 20 transformation was 20 20 the american revolutionary period was 20 years yeah the uh the period not the whole war the the but but the but the war i think the idea of the revolutionary war is is less meaningful than the revolutionary period like the boss yes that's fair the boston tea party like redcoats were killing people before there was a war yes that's

fair so we talk about the war but the revolutionary period was 20 years and um the uh what is it the first battle of the revolutionary war took place a year and a few months before the signing of the declaration of independence it's funny that a lot of people think the signing of the declaration started the the revolution it's like because they get it like 10 years later right but they get in history textbook and i don't i'm not gonna fault them but that's where it's all stacked on top of each other it's it's very hard to concept the narrative the narrative makes no sense that way that's that's sort of true it uh history is condensed but no i think the reality is people just don't read history they hear what what do we know the holiday july 4th why because in 1776 they signed the declaration of independence do you know what the actual date of the signing

was the what the declaration of independence yeah no what the second was it yeah and then uh or it may have actually been before that i i i believe it was the second and then it took two days to get everyone sign it i don't i don't even know i think it was signed on the second and then it was uh not in circulation until like and publicly known until the fourth yeah but i could be wrong but something like that if you read books you would think that there's only two genders and no scientist thinks this anymore not the ones that are allowed to practice sorry i just want to mess with the chat room so but but anyway back to the uh back to what's going on with california let me ask you if uh trump is removed from these ballots nikki haley there is there is

i i don't think trump getting removed from the ballots then it's just like well we're just going to go ahead with the election and it's it's whatever whatever plan b is for the republicans that's how it works i think things are going to get very, very ugly very, very quickly. I will be paying Roseanne in that circumstance. I think we might have – I don't know what it would look like. We got to get into this, but you may have to pay her. We're going to talk about that. We'll get into that.

We're looking for a way out of this. For those that aren't familiar, Roseanne said on this show – how long ago was that? That was a few months ago. March. March, wow. A long time ago. Roseanne said – wow, I can't believe how long it's been i think so yeah rosanne said that she didn't think there'd be an election there are two bets we made that's right military tribunals everyone everyone remembers the second bet they're all forgetting the first bet i think you won the first one yeah no shit no no she said what did she say

she said there'll be mass arrests by the end of the year. Yeah, that's not happening. But hold on. We have a couple weeks left, right? No, no, hold on. She said Trump would, there'll be military tribunals. And I'm like, you're saying Trump will have people arrested? Like, or the Democrats are going to arrest people. I'll take either.

If either case, I'll give her a thousand dollars. If the Democrats have mass arrests, she wins. Fine. That's true too. In the next week. Okay. Well, that's not, that's not 0%. That's not zero.

It's not zero. No, no, no. It's not zero percent that's not zero it's not zero no no it's not zero i'm not saying it's zero but anyway uh someone also bet me that trump and my my buddy who's a failed podcaster tom woods someone on twitter bet me 500 that trump would be reinstated in the white house by january 1st 2024 not 2025 meaning they would overturn the 2020 election and have Trump in the White House by 2024. Now, there's a non-zero chance that'll happen next week, but I'm looking. That's zero, right? The idea that Democrats would arrest people, they've already arrested Trump and Trump's legal team and his lawyers and other people involved. So the idea that the Democrats would stage mass arrests is like maybe like.05.

Yeah, that's fair. But the idea that trump has reinstated is like okay fine it's in it's in the realm of physical reality but like we're talking 0.000000000 one percent right it'll be more likely that like the secretary of commerce becomes president like everyone else gets knocked off yeah it'd be more likely that the plot of Designated Survivor happens line for line. Yeah, exactly. Yes. I just, come on.

No. I like that show, but it went off the rails so quickly. Oh, I don't know. I didn't watch it. I just know the general premise. Like, everybody dies but him. And they're like, your president's like, why? It's like King Ralph.

You're like 200th in line. So you're in charge. Because you're here. It's like, well, you're here. I guess that makes it you. And here we go. So what do you think? You think thatifornia actually makes the move as well well they are making the move i know right but i'm saying like what do they make what have moves have they taken did gavin just

call it or no no no lieutenant governor said trump should be removed for the same reason okay and she it was really funny because she said you everyone knows you have to be 40 years old and cannot have staged an insurrection or whatever. And everyone's like, neither of those are true. Like the fascinating thing about Colorado's ruling, the Supreme Court of Colorado, is that the third, Article 3 of the 14th Amendment actually does not include the president.

And they even said it in their ruling. They said, it's just self-evident. That's not how the law works. You don't get to be like, well, the law doesn't say't get to be like well the law doesn't say we can arrest you but we think they intended that it's pretty obvious right you're under arrest but the law is whatever those in power decide the laws yes as people are learning steve dees is really good about this he goes this has always been i was shocked that someone who's

a conservative and not anarchist can be like this is a country of will and not laws and it always has been absolutely anarchist perspective yeah the idea that free speech existed in this country at any point is laughable. The Sedition Act, President Adams, who were arresting journalists for criticizing the government. And not just that,

we had obscenity laws. George Carlin got arrested for swearing. Yes. So if you want to make arguments about the limits of free speech, it's been better than it's been in a long time. And it's not a function of the Constitution, which has time. And it's not a function of the Constitution, which has not changed.

It's been a function of the culture, which is always even more important than any piece of paper. That's why we make, you know, songs. Yes. That's why we make skate videos.

That's why it's so important what The Daily Wire is doing. And, you know, a lot of people I hear will say things like, oh, I want to get involved in the fights. I'm going to do a podcast.

And I'm like, well, I got to be honest. Like, we probably got too many of those. You know, some may be better than others but what we need is music video games and tv shows movies comedy you know why it's important because there has to be as little or no social cost for opting out if you have alternatives where i can play video games like gamer gate i just want to play video games where i can play video games and get action

figures and get laid and watch programs and not be involved with their whole edifice then we've won yeah that's the plan man and i think it's happening don't you think it's happening more and more i agree i agree i think with the major boycotts we saw of this year we are with disney's failures do you not think hold on let me interrupt do you not think it's hilarious i mean i that john fetterman handed over case of bud light to whoever it was was that not funny well what do you think about the bud light thing right now what's happening now well so right now kid rock has said it's over he said we gave him a black eye it's what they deserved i think we're good uh joe rogan laughed said it was stupid and then bought uh several cases of bud light out and drank them

with with some comedians like shane gis, I think. They posted a photo of it. And Dana White says they're aligned with you more than you realize, and everyone who believes in this country should go out and buy Bud Light. Matt Walsh has come out and said, no, the boycott is still on. Hold the line. I don't understand the point of pulling a

boycott. Here's let's, let's take something out of this. Let's a little unpolitical way. Do you have any siblings in? Yeah. Two brothers, sister,

two brothers. Okay. Let's suppose I'm on a podcast and I say an insulting thing about your brother's a dumb joke. And you come to me, you go, you shouldn't have said that hurt his feelings. And I felt bad about it. And I'd be like,

you know what? That was screwed up. I'm sorry. I would apologize to you. I would ask your brother for an apology. And I'd be like, you know what? That was screwed up. I'm sorry. I would apologize to you. I would ask your brother for an apology. And I'd be like, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to keep his name out of my mouth for the future because I don't want to hurt his feelings.

He didn't deserve that. In that case, you would accept my apology because you know what? I made a stupid joke. I didn't mean it. Harm was done and it was resolved. Maybe I'd give him like a, say, hey, buy a beer on my behalf, right? You have, when you, to forgive someone, they have to apologize and acknowledge what they did wrong and own it. Maybe. Let me give you another scenario. In my opinion. Do you have when you to forgive someone they have to apologize and acknowledge what they did wrong and own it maybe let me give another scenario in my opinion uh do you have any

siblings yes uh a sister sister uh she's terrible okay so ian praises your sister that's pretty you got out there pretty creative what have i done no no okay let's let's for real no so so you insult you know ian's brother yeah Ian says, hey, you shouldn't have done that. That was mean. And you shouldn't say it. So you go, okay, give your brother $100 on me and $100 to you. We'll be done with it. Should he say, okay? Or should he be like, no, I don't want your money.

I want your apology. I think it depends on our relationship. If he could tell I really do feel bad. Also, I'm giving you just go buy dinner on me. Then that's different. But if he's just like. You just say, you just privately say, okay, well, how about I give you $100 and we'll call it square. I wouldn't take that apology buy dinner on me then that's different. No apology. You just say you just privately say okay well how about

I give you a hundred bucks and we'll call it square. I wouldn't take that apology. My integrity is not worth a hundred dollars. I'd be like keep your money and you don't have to say anything about my brother

but I know who you are now. And the apology acknowledges that there was wrong done. Yes that's the thing you have to be explicit. Cash is saying please stop talking about this. Yeah go away.

I'm paying you to go away. Here's my concern right now. Let's ask Ian what he thinks. It's your brother. Outside of the brother analogy, I understand your point. The concern I have with the Bud Light thing is you've lost Joe Rogan. You've lost Kid Rock. You've lost Dana White.

And we have seen some political gains. I don't really care about platitudes. So what have we seen? $100 million goes to UFC. You end up with people like Sean Strickland coming out saying, yeah, I'll just tell you what he said he said that trans people should not what they should not be accepted by what what they're going through should not be accepted by society i don't like that either but my the point was he said a bunch of things that like you can't say on youtube and he said

sponsored by bud light he also just tweeted that january 6 is the most patriotic thing that this country has done in a long time that's better better. This is a guy who was saying, thank you, Bud Light, for sponsoring my speech and allowing me to say this. I view that as on par with what they did with Dylan Mulvaney. So it's sort of a neutralizing force in a certain degree. But my bigger concern is if the catalyzing forces of the boycott have basically bowed out, that means you've lost a few generals. Sure. What's going to happen is come April, the wraparound for year-to-year profits is going to hit.

Bud Light's going to report earnings. They're going to see a net positive gain because it's a year-over-year. Their stock has already recovered. They're going to declare victory over the boycott. So what I'm saying is either you join with the likes of Joe Rogan and Kid Rock, Dana White and Sean strickland and say ha ha ha we've won declare victory over your enemies but or if you do want to maintain the boycott and double down you need an advancing strategy how are you going to get them to

apologize uh i i can't remember who was tweeting about this it um who was tweeting about this they said we we would need to see i think it might have been James Lindsay testimony before Congress as to how this happened. Have Republicans call them in and say, what was this that caused damage to the shareholders? Victory in lawsuits. But the idea that we simply just don't do anything. And that's what a boycott is. We don't buy their product and we just go on with our lives, I think, is not an option. So there's been a divide in this. Many people saying, hold the line, keep the boycott up. And I say, okay, what's the next plan? What's the next move?

Because if you do nothing, they'll take back the battlefield. I agree broadly speaking, but I'm just going to make one point. I know people are going to melt down. I don't think what Bud Light did is as bad as some of these other companies are doing. Like when you were talking, okay, it's a trans influencer. We made like a custom bottle can for the old Mulvaney. Great.

That's one thing. Well, that wasn't the issue. Well, hold on. Just one more thing. When you have things like Target with like tucking panties for kids, like that's- But Target's so much harder for people

to be trying to boycott for. That also did not happen. But it happened then, please. The tucking was for adults. Okay. Still, the concern is that they have all of this stuff front and center and available for children to see. I accept your correct. And they had gender neutral swimwear. Yes. For swimmers. for adults okay still the concern is that they have all of this stuff front and center and

available for children i accept and they had gender neutral swimwear yes or the talking stuff wasn't it i apologize to target that's a bad example i'm saying you still have to apologize for him no just make sure i want to be clear i want to speak correctly so i don't want to be like target you know i'm glad that you corrected me what i'm saying is there's other organizations that do things that are far more malevolent than take someone who's already an influencer and make them it's like a one-off thing and i gotta correct you on bud light it wasn't that dylan mulvaney got a can it's that dylan mulvaney was hired and paid what is uh the report is 180 000 to promote bud light and a contest they were doing i'm just saying it's important because i'm saying it's people think that you could go to walmart and get a dylan

mulvaney can you could not have done. It was a custom can just for Dylan. But that's not what anyone's mad about. The corporate press claimed that was the cause of the boycott. It was not. The cause of the boycott was that Dylan Mulvaney grabbed a stack of Bud Light, put them on a table and said, everyone buy Bud Light and use this hashtag to win a contest. Hashtag whatever. I don't know.

March Madness or something was paid, according to some reports, $180,000, and Don Mulvaney's audience is children. So people were like, why are they promoting this gender ideology stuff, and why are they promoting it to children? The media then immediately ran out and said, Bud Light gave a custom can to one person, and the right lost their mind,

to obfuscate and lie about what happened. Fair. My point is, there are many such cases where they are targeting children, not via somebody, but directly. Oh, yeah. And like when you have these publishers who are publishing these books that have pornographic content for kids, they are to me are much more malevolent than some Dylan Mulvaney thing. There's a big story right now.

That's all I'm saying. Daily Wire is tweeting about it and Woten has tweeted it. It's a Cocoa Melon. Is that what it's called? Where it's an interracial gay couple singing to their son who's dancing in girls clothing and so you know daily wire of course saying this is why we made bent key we'll talk about that the members only show so we can get more in depth because i do want to i do want to get back to the politics okay i say one more thing it's also important in terms of boycotts things like this to pick your battles because it's much more useful to

take down someone who is both much more evil and who you can win than someone where it's just like you know like water for ducks back my view on bud light is and i hate but i don't understand how one drinks bud light to begin with and like i'm not gonna buy it you know like when we don't we don't even buy sodas we buy the spin drafts because it's like 17 calories fruit juice i've got my dr pepper zero that's disgusting it's it's my primary method of hydration. I'm not kidding at all. My pee is jet black. Let's jump to the politics. Let's get back to the primary discussion. We've got this.

Ladies and gentlemen, I am going to say this unequivocally. Ron DeSantis has disqualified himself. There is no circumstance in which I will vote for this man. What, are you Gavin Newsom? You're going to get him off the ballot? No, no, he can do whatever he wants. Take a look at this video. Let me play it for you.

And you can hear it for yourself. Do we have an audio queued up? And real quick, fellow GOP 2024 presidential candidate, Vivek Ramaswamy, saying he will remove himself from the Colorado ballot unless Trump's eligibility is restored.

Would you do the same? No, I think that's just playing into the left. I think the case will get overturned by the Supreme Court, but I've qualified for all the ballots. I'm competing in all the states, and I'm going to accumulate the delegates necessary. That's the whole name of the game in this situation. But I do anticipate that that decision was political and will get reversed. All right, Governor. For that, he has disqualified himself. Do you know what Vivek is really, really good at?

Vivek is really good. Maybe he's read too much Robert Greene for the loss of power. He's really good at making these bold power moves and forcing everyone else to react to what he's doing.

That, to me, is the political strategy at its finest. We have to address this. Ron DeSantis says that's playing into the left. It makes no sense. It literally makes no sense.

It makes no sense. If the move of the left is to remove Donald Trump so that someone else wins the primary, Ron said, I know what they did is political, and I have secured the delegates, and that's the game. And if you want to be really pedantic, the California Supreme Court and the left are not synonymous, because there's lots of leftists. Colorado Supreme Court. Sorry, Colorado.

There's lots of leftists who are, I know people on Twitter freak out. There's lots of leftists who are pro-democracy in this sense, who find this up-and-coming. I will call out... Look, Tucker Carlson... Robert Kennedy Jr. is not a right-winger. He's like, this is crazy. Tucker Carlson said on IRL on Monday at TPUSA

that the people representing Ron DeSantis online are some of the nastiest zero-sum people he's ever seen. And instantly, they all lose their minds. Can you name names? Because who's he referring to? Well, because someone I'm friends with, like Laura Loomer. I like Laura, right? She goes for the juggler every time.

Does she work for Trump? No, no. Christina Pichot. Okay. She's Ron's second in command. Sure. She on the internet behaves as though she and Laura Loomer are the exact same person doing the exact sameot. Okay. She's Ron's second-in-command. Sure. She, on the internet, behaves as though she and Laura Loomer are the exact same person doing the exact same things. Okay.

And now, at first, I said, now hold on there just a gosh darn minute. In that voice. In that voice. Laura Loomer is just a fan of Trump. Right. And Christina Pichot is Ron's second-in-command. For what reason is the press campaign, press secretary and second in command arguing with fans

of Donald Trump? And that's the world they live in. So, at first I said, this doesn't reflect on DeSantis in terms of the nastiness of his supporters online, but the fact that he won't fire them absolutely does. So when Tucker said, it doesn't reflect on Ron, but these people are, it absolutely does.

Why won't he fire Redfern, Griffin and Pasha? If Ian was on Twitter, like spouting Nazi ideology and you're going to be like, well, it's his opinion. That's crazy. Depending. But I got to be honest, like we have a very strong free speech. Sure. But I'm fine at this company.

But you're right. And I've said this over and over again. There is a threshold I'm willing to tolerate. Yes. I have said free speech, not for those who don't believe in free speech. Anybody who wants to come in here, advocate for fascism and taking away people's rights, I'm going to say I'm not going to defend yours. Or at least I'm not going to have to hire you.

It's freedom of association. You hire and work with whoever you want. Ron DeSantis is here. He said it. The last part of this is the most important part. Not the, I won't remove myself, whatever. The last part of this is the most important part. Not the, I won't remove myself, whatever. The last part of this is what matters. Let me play it again. No, I think that's just playing into the left. I think that was meaningless, by the way. It's

no sense. Yeah. But anyway, the case will get overturned by the Supreme Court, but I've qualified for all the ballots. I'm competing in all the states and I'm going to accumulate the delegates necessary. That's the whole name of the game in this situation. The whole name of the game is for him to accumulate the delegates. He will not remove himself even if Trump has been removed. He thinks Trump will be put back on. It's political. I'm getting all these dissenters people saying, oh, yeah, but, you know, he's saying he knows it'll be overturned. That's meaningless. If that were true and he thought 100 percent Trump would be back on the ballot, then he would say Vivek's right I will absolutely remove myself from the primary process because it's not a real race no he said

the opposite he said the name of the game is get the delegates and I'm not backing down I'm gonna win uh he is no different than a democrat I have seen not one time in this primary where Ron DeSantis did a bold move or took a strong stand on anything, which is shocking to me. No, it would have been more interesting if he beat Vivek to the punch here, right? Because that's the thing. Now, Vivek, who knows everyone else? We talk about all the time. Republicans are not unified.

There are a bunch of people who obviously don't want Trump to become the nominee, theoretically Vivek included, right? Because he's campaigning for president. So he was the first one to say, well, I would leave it. And now all of them who actually don't want to leave the race either follow suit meaning that he is the leader or they argue and then they seem anti-trump which isolates the base his entire governorship is bold move bold move leftist freak out headline bold move bold move bold move but as but he's running as you would think a nikki haley candidacy would be run he's running worse than nikki haley worse but i mean

i don't understand and And what I see is, I didn't support Donald Trump in 2016. We have criticisms on this show of Trump. We have debates over police as an institution, abolition of police. We have fairly nuanced conversations. The left doesn't want to come on the show.

Well, screw them. They don't have to, but they should. And when it comes to the likes of Donald Trump, as I said, Luke Rutkowski will come on here and criticize Trump to no end even at one point saying he wouldn't vote for him and then he sure enough went and voted for him luke voted luke says he voted for trump okay well yeah i guess we know who the real anarchist is after all that's right that's right but my point is this me michael you have You have, yeah. Your brother, I hate him. You have Ron DeSantis' supporters, prominent journalists and personalities, and personalities of the Daily Wire, who are saying things that come off as the most pathetic, desperate lies to defend Ron DeSantis.

Matt Walsh said something that I thought was just it was cringe. He criticized Vivek saying, what's the point of doing this? Blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, it is the most unbelievable thing, an inauthentic thing a person could say, acting as though they don't understand what Vivek was doing. Right. We all get it. Vivek is in third place in the lesser known GOP debates. He's in fourth place in the primary, and he's still doing power moves and we know exactly why he's doing it. To act like you think it makes no sense is in my opinion, it's cringe, man.

There are journalists that we've had on the show. Obviously, we're friends with Matt. I like the guy. I think he's fantastic, but I'll criticize who I think deserves it. And they're on Twitter, Dave Rubin, acting like Ron DeSantis did the right thing here. And I'm like, dude, I don't care what you think.

Okay, we can be friends. We can have dinner. That's kind of the point. But no one believes you when you come out and you're like, I think Ron did the right thing. You don't believe that. Now you're losing all your credibility because he's outright saying he's going to win the delegates after they removed trump from the race and that's the game no it isn't and here's the thing isn't colorado way down the line in terms of when they actually super tuesday yeah so like colorado is not going to be determinative in any case by super

tuesday it's probably going to be close to wrapped up maybe down to two people right so this wouldn't even cost him anything else if he on the other hand let's play devil i'll play me tip let me play devil got devil's advocate with you what if the concern with desantis is that vivek is being the leader among the plan b people and if ron agrees with him that's going to be used as look ron desantis can't even leave within within the primary yep and vivek at least in the 538 polls uh after the last debate he jumped over christy christy and he were sort of neck and neck and he's jumped i'm as bad for vick he must have had some kind of big pogo stick i think part yeah that's true but you ever seen those extreme pogos oh yeah where they do flips and stuff that's super cool i think part of it is that vick has uh charisma and when he's on stage he can really

command attention right he had his like and he's also got nothing to lose right and so at this point why not i mean the the thought what i heard from some people was like it's easy to say i'll come off the ballot when you think they're gonna terminate their campaign anyways which also puts him in a strong position it's one of the reasons that people want donald trump back in the white house because he could only serve one more term anyways so imagine what he would do uh it's a very similar mindset and i think again that's a threat to desantis let me give you an example ryan savedra he said in response i said i tweeted no one sees no one honest sees anything other than ron trying to win power if he really believed it he would uh it would be overturned he would agree

with the vague savedra tweeted one trump's team filed a lawsuit to have desantis thrown off the ballot which tim pool ignores this is why i despise these people. Sorry, Ryan. This is the cringiest, most despicable thing. Is Ryan a DeSantis person? Yes. Okay. When this happened, we all talked about it. You want me to go back to May and be like, well, I know what's happening now with Trump, but let's go back in time six months to discuss an old news story that's not relevant right now.

Well, of course we talked about it. Whenever these stories come up, we talk about it. The whole debate we had was over whether or not Ron, first, it whether ron could be trump's vp that that's out of the question and whether or not ron was in violation of laws pertaining to using his funds from from from the governor's race for the presidential race and we've had numerous conversations about his staff working between the campaign and his uh and his office that conversation happens all the time and now he's like tim ignores it they're just lying and anyone hold on let me let me i don't know ryan but let me it could be that he just doesn't know so he doesn't mean he's lying he just could be ignorant why is he bringing

up a story from may because in this case it's showing that he's trying to claim that trump's being a hypocrite so he's claiming i'm a hypocrite. No, he could be claiming that. He says Tim Pool ignores. He could be playing that in terms of him not knowing your record as opposed to lying. So he's making, instead of looking into it at all. Correct. Maybe he was lazy. So he's fabricating. Or lazy. I don't accept

lazy. Okay, that's fine. Considering the fact that Ron's supporters have, this is their MO. This is one example that I'm bringing up. I don't know them as well as you do. Okay. okay this is no matter what ron does there's some defense for it okay when we had laura loomer and bill mitchell on debating trump v desantis i yeah i asked bill mitchell why are the desantis people attacking me and he says laura loomer tweeted and alex brucewitz i said bill stop i'm not laura loomer i'm not alex bruceicz. Why are they tweeting at me? And he goes, Laura Loomer. And I said, I don't care.

Why are you tweeting at me? This is what they do. They see something from a fan of Trump's. They grab onto it and then they make shit up. So this is a topical news program. When Donald Trump was challenging DeSantis, of course we talked about it.

We talked about it in numerous contexts. There's no reason to say this other than you're trying to mislead your audience and act like we don't care that Trump does these things. When Laura Loomer tweeted a fake tweet, we presume, from Christina Pasha, that Christina Pasha tweeted the same thing. I said, the DeSantis campaign, the DeSantis people are the scumbags they claim Trump are. They immediately ran with it. But Trump doesn't care. Tim doesn't care when Trump does it. said is laura loomer on trump's campaign and they all they all think that this is the this is why i say okay i'm done with these

people they view themselves like we're on stage at a rock concert and donald trump is here and i thought ron desantis was up here with us and we were debating what the next song in the set was going to be. I now realize, thanks to the DeSantis fans, Donald Trump is up on stage, we're standing here behind him, cheering him on, and down there in the audience, in the mosh pit, arguing with, you know, with Rick, who's selling cotton candy, is Ron DeSantis and his campaign.

And they're screaming at us on stage, and I said, ah, why am i even bothering talking to these people i shouldn't be yelling down to the to the audience and the fans let let them watch the show and do their thing ronda santos is not a serious contender his influencers are not even viewing themselves as on par with the trump campaign so we shouldn't even be debating him he's done well i think he is i think the fact seems pretty clear that his campaign is just completely imploded. I've never seen anything like it in my lifetime, probably. And he's never gained.

I mean, Trump is still polling at like, what, 60 percent? No one has been able to close that gap. Here's the question for the table. And I can go either way, but I'm leaning towards one way or the other his answer is is this 4d chess from the democratic establishment to force trump to be the nominee thinking he'd be much more beatable if he's got felonies that was one of the things that santa said today you got this pollster i think this was um who was this this was uh what's his face what's the pollster's name that no one cares about anymore frank luntz was that was this luntz who said this yeah luntz he said uh this supreme court ruling

from uh colorado trump is now more likely to beat biden because of this yeah but what i'm saying is that is just because they're playing 4d chess doesn't mean they're good at it so in their thinking their normie thinking it could be like no one's gonna vote for a felon no one's gonna vote for blah blah no one's gonna vote for they saw this this was their 2016 strategy once we make right once we make him out to be a white nationalist Nazi, no one's going to vote for him. It's going to be clear. You have to vote for Hillary.

And basically the message was every single day, you have to vote for Hillary. You have to vote for Hillary. Every right-thinking person is voting for Hillary. Just ask us. And then everyone voted and went into the booth and raised their fingers and said, nah, I'm going to vote for Trump.

Did you know that in swing states, not only does Trump have a lead, I think he's leading in seven and tied in two but some are double digit double digits but more importantly among people who did not vote in 2020 trump holds a 40 lead in michigan and like a 27 lead in georgia holy crap new voters swinging towards trump you know why the rent's too damn high yeah you should have him on the show jim mcmillan if he's still alive it is the cost of food uh there's a meme that's going around i love it you know the who radicalized you meme and it's like the npc the new one is a guy saying angrily saying my grocery bill it's a picture of a receipt yeah Yo, I went out to eat today. We went to a Mexican restaurant today.

We got fajitas, guacamole, and a pupusa. How much do you think that cost? $37. What do you think? I don't even really know what half those things are. Maybe it was $36 just for the fajitas. Let me make a sit-down restaurant. We went to a sit-down.

$57. Let me give you guys a picture. It was approximately, I don't know what, 300 or 400, no, 300 square feet, maybe 200 square feet small. Okay. I would estimate 8 to 12 tables. Okay. I know those types.

With fast, casual bar style, small Mexican restaurant. Around here? Yeah. Okay. So not a high class sit down. I got you. We're talking wood chairs and a table so fajito i would get in fajitas so this is chicken breast i don't see it so chicken

fajitas are 11.95 i would guess what the other two things we ordered guacamole guacamole is gonna be 8.95 and a pupusa i don't know what that is it is a stuffed flour tortilla oh yeah yeah that's gonna be like 6.95 i would say say. And plantains. Plantains will be what? Like six also. What do you think the total cost of those? So $12.13 plus $12.25, so like $34. Yeah, my guess was up there with $34, but now that I'm thinking of inflation, I'm looking at $18. I feel like it's like $65. $18 fajitas, $57.

No. $47. $47. Wow. So that's a third more than it would have been like not that long ago. $47.50. Not a high-end restaurant. I mean, I'm not trying to disrespect this restaurant.

It was really good food. But this was a local, small, like, it was a strip mall. A strip mall Mexican restaurant. You know why this makes me so angry? And this is why I'm very like, and the Fed and all this other stuff. Because inflation is a tax on poverty. Yes. It hurts poor people first and foremost.

And it just drives me crazy. Michael, do you think that, you know this, but let me just stress this for the people listening. Inflation is good for the wealthy. You want to know what the wealthy love about inflation? When the costs go up, it means their net worth goes up.

Yeah, right. But a poor person who needs to buy chicken and they're not making enough money, they can't buy that food for their family now. For the wealthy investor, they're like, what's inflation at? Oh, so what's my property at? Wow, my car is up 7%. My house is up 7%.

The hard assets we own from our insert factory building, whatever, all those are more expensive now. Is your mom an immigrant? No. Okay. When we came to this country, my mom had told me how we had so little money, like on 86th Street and Bensonhurst in Brooklyn,

you have a lot of fruit stands. And she'd go to the fruit stand on the west side, all the way west, see how much the grapes were, walk all the way to the other side, down the block. And it's not a short block. These are avenues in Brooklyn. See how much the grapes were. And if it's like a 5 cent difference, she would do it. And that's the kind of thing when you're really

poor, you have to make these considerations. So there's few things that get me really, really, really enraged. And the flippancy with which inflation is talked about as if like, oh, it's going to be warmer tomorrow. It's like, these are people having to make sacrifice about they have to wake up half an hour earlier to get to work because they can't afford like some kind of surge pricing or something for the bridge.

Or it's so gross. You know, I did a couple of books with D.L. Hughley and one of the points he made, which really kind of resonated with me, and I don't agree with him specifically, but he goes, you know, this country hates poor people. And I don't think with him specifically, but he goes, you know, this country hates poor people. And I don't think that's true, but it sure doesn't love them.

And it doesn't look out for them. It doesn't. And especially people who are in power, you know, the lefty lefties traditionally at their best are the bleeding hearts who are like, oh, you know, someone's hungry.

Let's get them fed. Let's get them clothes. You know, let's look out for them. And like, you'd laugh at that. But it's like, you know what? The older I get, the less I laugh at that. And the like you know what the older i get the less i laugh at that and the more i'm like we can use a little bit more of that and it really sickens me how much poor people aren't thought of in this country because they don't have much power by definition they're used as weapons yes exactly

the immigrants are are the poor new poor people that are being taken care of by the government it's the people that are coming across the board they're not poor and flown well they don't come over here with anything as Yes, they do. It costs them thousands of dollars to hire these coyotes. Some of these people coming from North Africa have 10 grand. Sometimes they come in and they have to pay that back after they get here. Yeah, sometimes. But when we're looking at

North African migrants who paid smugglers $5,000, that's more than a lot of people in this country could afford to spend on moving. Now now to be fair yes they get here now they don't have anything perhaps they shouldn't have spent five you know between three and five grand or even upwards of 10 depending on who they're with to come to this country and now the fascinating thing is we've got these videos coming up from like ashley st

claire nuance bro had a video and uh taylor hansen from uh tenant these people are giving being given premium economy they're being flown in the premium seats on airplanes yeah that's the choice of destination you flew me coach here you pos well are you a migrant yeah did you cross the border i'm a refugee we will reimburse you the difference and get you a first class on the way back i'll tell you i'm not joe biden i'll tell you a funny story i When I left New York for Austin, one way ticket, I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna treat myself.

I'm gonna get first class. And the armrests are too far apart, cause I'm a munchkin. And I'm like, I wasted money for nothing. You can't even use the armrests. All I can think of about solving the inflation issue is making fuel cheaper. But it's not just fuel.

It's also food. It's also rent. It's literally everything. A lot of that stuff is result. The reason food's expensive is because you got to use fuel to get it from the farm to the factory. But that also doesn't include human expectation. Inflation is also high because people demand clean running water, air conditioning, refrigeration, hot showers. A lot of that stuff comes from combustion, which is carbon based.

It's your answer, graphene. It's your answer to everything it's your answer everything no it's hydrogen but it's it's an overly simplistic answer it's not completely wrong energy plays a huge role in inflation particularly but the issue is if people did not want these things they would work for less inflation is a huge component of inflation is the demands of the people and what they're willing to work for and there are a lot of millennials there's a poll that came out millennials are broken people. Millennials said they would only be, they would be happy with 500,000 a year.

Every other generation. They said every- What a sacrifice. Yeah, every other generation said 120. Yeah, of course. 120 and I'm happy. Millennials are like 500. Now, what do you think happens?

You take a generation of people who want 500 grand and you say, hey, we want to pay you, we'll pay you $15 an hour to work at Starbucks. They go, no, I want 500 grand. You're like, okay, hey, we want to pay you. We'll pay you $15 an hour to work at Starbucks. They go, no, I want 500 grand. You're like, okay, well, we need to hire people and they're demanding massive salaries because they want to be able to buy a bunch of stuff. The average person doesn't want. They make this argument.

Poverty shouldn't exist. Abolish poverty. There's other arguments like poverty today is wealth 400 years ago. Yes, there will always be poverty. Not 100 years ago. Seriously, because poverty is relative. Yes. So it's not so simple.

Inflation is not just a component of the cost of fuel, it's the demands of the population and what they're willing to work for. Inflation and the cost of goods is a component of how much energy a person will expend for one hour in exchange for how much energy do they get back. And everybody wants more energy back than they put out. Millennials want five to 10 times back than they put out millennials want five to

ten times the energy they put out back and so it's not so simple to just say cheaper energy solves the problem because when you let's say we do have an energy revolution energy becomes 10 cheaper you know what happens who's the who's the guy who did that formulation for the cost of gas based on the the use of gas based on the cost of gas, based on the cost of gas. He basically, early 1900s found that when gas is cheaper, people spend the same amount of money on gas. They just drive more. When you make gas expensive,

they just drive less. And they spend- It's like a flat cost. Yes. That if someone has 50 bucks left over, they'll be like, I'll just drive around for no reason. I wouldn't consider 10% a revolution.

If you could drop the cost of fuel by like 99 that would be a revolution what we end up seeing is people will just drive more maybe or they'll be getting so much time or they'll just use more gas consuming vehicles like the rocket ships this is exact no but this is exactly what they saw when gas got cheaper people bought gas guzzlers because our gas is cheap now right it did not it does not so you you look at this issue and you're like a single individual can make the decision that because gas is cheaper, I'll live frugally and I'll save 10 bucks and buy more food. Not what happens on the macro level. People will drive more. They'll buy gas guzzlers.

And the amount they spend on travel remains the same. People used to not be able to afford meat in this country. Right. Used to be a big thing. Now, everyone, even though the price have gone up, can afford meat. It's not that they're eating less meat. They just buy more.

Yeah. Yeah. And they get used to it and they expect more. Yeah. The cost of food gets cheaper. People don't save money on food now. They just eat until they're dead. I think that's why the, not depopulation,

but degrowth, people want the human race to be expanding slower. It's like, you know, might call it conspiracy. I don't't know but that's why it's explicit i think that's why it is explicit because humans unfettered will just expand and grow and consume as a bloody animal but that's not the problem it is absolutely amazing looking at the international space station i believe the cost of it was three billion dollars and all of the power of human minds all across the planet came together to develop the technology and the capability to send people into space to live up there for months on end. That is human minds coming together.

More people means we'll just start colonizing off the planet. We'll figure these things out. The problem is culture. And so degrowth is not the answer. They're saying, you know, live in the pot eat the bugs well that's that's an argument the solution actually is cultural change people need to be they need they need to eat less food they need to recognize food is cheap now don't buy 10 times of it they need to recognize community is important you need to have creativity culture and development amen

the problem is while we have a ton of really amazing people working really hard to develop technology so we can go to outer space we have too many people who uh what what what is a uh uval harari call them useless eaters and so the solution in my view to the quote-unquote useless eater is wow look at all these people that could put their potential to the advancement of human civilization that haven't been properly appropriated. And what do they say? Put them in pods, give them the bugs, and have them play video games

until they no longer exist and don't have kids. Harvest their body heat for electricity. That's not a real thing though. You can harvest piezoelectricity, like heat and friction from electricity. The energy loss from that, the Matrix did that. And the only reason they came up with that concept was because people wouldn't understand

the concept of a neural net. So, you know, harnessing energy from a human body is ridiculously useful. Didn't the Matrix just do that because they had to have a reason why they didn't just kill all the people? No, it was,

the original idea in the Matrix was that first, humans chose the Matrix. Oh, that makes more sense. Yeah, and that is canon. And that the reason the robots needed them was for a neural network to basically create a massive...

Okay, that makes sense. Their brains are used to compute the matrix itself. The argument that more people means more expansion doesn't track because a deer population, if it expands too rapidly, it'll eat all the food and then it'll starve and have a mass starvation. Deer don't invent spaceships, though. Yes, but most humans don't either. It's a very, very small percentage of humans that have that kind of mind capacity. That's not true at all. Well, because the cobalt we use for our technology is not mined by rocket scientists.

You have slaves, yeah, but the people that build the rockets are someone else. So we don't like the conditions in the cobalt mines, but we're not going to send Einstein to a cobalt mine. What we should have is a Forrest Gump-like person who can't build a rocket, but dude can run really, really fast. You can run fast? Sure. Undoubtedly, yes. There is a role for everyone on God's green earth. The problem is... Oh, no, no, no. I completely disagree. You don't think so? No!

Most people are as irrelevant as a butterfly and they have as much impact on reality. And they can't break rocks for us? Oh, sure. But we are at a point where ChatGPT is a better conversationalist than the average human being. But I don't care about conversation. I care about who's going to pick up the cobalt for our smartphones. I think much of these things like cobalt can be done by robots or machines.

I do not believe that's correct right now, perhaps in the future. Sure. I don't think it's going to be far in the future. It's just not economically's just not um economically fair point perhaps the big concern of the bill gates types is that once we come to a point where uh trivial and menial labor is done by machines you will only require higher thinking yes beings in which case the quote-unquote useless leader useless eaters become a very serious liability we're at a point where i would much rather and most other people would rather interact with the touch screen than the cashier at a fast food place because the odds of me getting my order correct are much higher and it's going to be more faster more efficient that's a problem i i agree

disagree uh i think you you are correct it will likely be higher but i also think the issue is not just the cashier but the guy making the food correct so but that also we eliminate that role but that's also happened now they have the machines they have they have fully automated mcdonald's i think it's a mcdonald's it could be wrong but there was a video i saw where you go to a kiosk and order and then behind the counter you actually watch the robot arm grab the burger yeah put it on the grill take it out flips puts it on the bun then the thing drops all the ingredients folds it like a fully automated taco bell and somewhere in the midwest it's like a drive-thru completely.

There are no humans who work there. So I think I'm pretty sure it may have been, you've all know, or Harari said this, or someone else, but the idea that they have is when the next industrial revolution happens to avoid a Luddite riot, what you have to do is before the revolution, placate the masses by stimulating dopamine, put them in a situation where they can play video games all day and get free food they will eventually just die off and then you we won't have to worry about violence so what's interesting is you have that book right there which i just interviewed alex jones about the great reset and his entire book is about quotes from these guys right where they're not just it's not like

horror porn they're advocating for brave new world yeah they're like this is what we want there's no other way around it um and i don't think that i think this is actually a real concern because what if you are a millennial low iq low ambition uh a sense of entitlement what am i gonna what what am i i'm gonna be making cobalt'm going to be breaking cobalt in the mines. No, I'm not. So, so what do you do?

Where's the problem? What do you do with that person? You give them a video game. Sure. That's right. Exactly. That's the point. And so where's the problem then?

Are any of us upset that entitled woke millennials will go lock themselves in a pod, eating bugs and playing the matrix at a certain point? If they're all on welfare, it's going to become costly. And someone's going to be like, why are we paying for all these people in their pods for video games? That's when the problem comes in.

So they don't run around burning everything down because they don't want to break rocks. Sure. But the point is then they start reproducing and they start voting. All sorts of other things start happening. Which is why they're also sterilizing themselves and aborting their children.

Sure. But I don't think they're all... Sterilizing themselves means thinking ahead. So a lot of them are not going to be thinking ahead because they're operating on a pleasure principle. Have you seen the... There's an article that was being shared. It said, study finds single women are... Women are happier when they're single and childless. I think that's what it was. And it showed up a clip from the show girls and then my response was yeah until they're 35 right yeah but for real and so what's happening

is but you have this corporate press apparatus telling all these young women not to have families and they buy into it but the thing is this isn't even some hypothetical sci-fi thing this is literally like 2000 they say it 2019 right exactly it's already been happening for years alex jones described it as they tell you they're setting bear traps and if you are too stupid to avoid them it's your own fault i don't think it's too stupid it's too trusting and we're taught since we're kids to trust these people so it's very hard to be like holy crap i've been lied to since kindergarten we definitely here's what i'm gonna do that's tough i mean i think the- I want to talk more about this, but we'll go into a dark territory,

so we'll save it for the members only. Okay. And we'll jump to a more irreverent, sort of, subject, but something a bit, to provide some levity. We have this tweet from the Colorado Republican Party

that I saw. Oh boy, okay. Democrats love to let criminals loose on the street. This is what happens when you elect woke crime huggers to power the simpsons prediction certainly stands the test of time i am in love with this clip you ready i'll be back you can't keep the democrats out of the white house forever and when they get in i'm back on the streets with all my criminal buddies. I love that.

With all my criminal buddies. Can I make a point? Yeah. It was Trump who had the criminal reform and let out a lot of people. Yeah, but that's not... I'm just...

But we like the criminal reform. I know. What we don't like is when they arrest salon owners and then literally unleash violent criminals into the cities. What I don't like is when people who are like Kyle Rittenhouse and the guy in New York, I don't remember his name. Daniel Penny. Yes, who are doing the job the police who is ostensibly supposed to be doing are the ones who pay the consequence that are traumatized for life. Luke has a video about this from a decade ago where a guy

was stabbing people on the metro in new york city and the cops were like i'm not getting involved and there was a court ruling that police are not obligated to say that that's the case yeah yeah and so this guy intervenes and gets stabbed several times in the head and stuff and then stops this as soon as he subdues them then the police come in but they were like i'm not going anywhere near that knife what about what happened in in Britain recently with the pro-Palestinian marches and the guy who tried to stop them, who was like a British patriot, he was the one who got arrested. Of course.

You say of course, but I don't think a lot of people realize to what extent it's screwed up. I mean, we talk about it. Sure, sure. Dan Dix, do you know Dan? No. Journalist, he was in Canada, and there was a protest. He showed up to film it. They started screaming and attacking him, so the cops threatened to arrest him.

I think he might have actually, I think he got detained and then removed. It's like the innocent guy who shows up doing nothing is attacked, and then you defend the attackers. Not just innocent, heroic. Yeah. This is what I've been warned about is coming. When the guy in Wisconsin had blm show up to his house his private residence protesting and he brandished a shotgun the police showed up and arrested him and blm cheered for it they don't want to abolish the police they want the police to just arrest you

yes i mean that that's been crystal clear from day one definitely i mean i think one of the issues has always been that the marketing tactic says one thing but the the demand is something else right they just want certain people to be allowed to do things that they want they are willing to excuse your violence or your lawlessness if you support their idea of who should be forgiven and once again the first people who are going to be the victims of violent crime are going to be the poor yeah like it just goes back to that again they're the most likely to be killed raped whatever all this other stuff and they're the least likely to have access to legal services to have some kind of retribution or justice it's horrifying well and then they're trapped in

communities that have all of these issues and we never find a way to solve them because ultimately we're funding it by saying we don't need you to we don't need to really investigate these causes we'll just say here's money we'll fix it also we'll let you out of jail go back in the community we'll never address the core issues it's just and it's just crazy this hand waving from conservatives like well they shouldn't vote a democrat fine i'm stuck in the projects i hate this like my life is screwed i go and vote republican what's going to change everyone else around me is voting democrat what am i supposed to do this system's been busted for 100 years i guess but i can't afford it you know i'm in the projects i don't have four to move uh yeah not everyone who's poor is poor because of choice that they've made but

this is another important distinction a person who has a house is not poor relative to someone 100 or 200 years ago absolutely and so it's interesting to see that people are now saying like i can't move i can't afford to move and i'm like do you live somewhere yeah i live in government housing i'm like they there's this great line in fast fast and furious 4 where the bad guy says would i follow this line if i haven't seen the first three yes okay he said he i'm paraphrasing but he says if i give them things they become dependent upon me and then they serve me and so these people who are like yeah i know that what's happening in my city is wrong i know what they're doing is evil but i can't move because i'm stuck here and it's like

that was the plan yeah oh yeah you are dependent on them and now they beat you and you can't do anything about it right except for cheer for them right there's an article i read a while ago about a study on universal basic income and they were trying to find women i think in jackson mississippi to come be a part of this uh ubi for like a year. And when they were approaching women, they were like, well, the thing is, I don't want to lose my benefits because once I have them, it's difficult. If I lose them, it's difficult to get back on them. So it's better to maintain them for as long as I can. And that's a really interesting system, right? Because ultimately, theoretically, any sort of social service like that would be to help you for a small amount of time to get back on your feet.

To transition you. Yeah. And that's not the way it works out in reality. And if it was more of a private charity system, they would be much more hands-on. You'd have more one-on-one relationships or one-to-ten, you know, maybe some kind of classes. And they would be focusing on transitioning people from poverty. Right. Like, there's this great charity that Penn Jillette worked for when he was on The Apprentice twice called Opportunity Village, where people who are mentally disabled, it's like in Vegas, they give them jobs. So like

they made Elvis's costumes. Like they're not going to be able to build rocket ships, but they can have some dignity. They can mine cobalt. Yeah. Yeah, man. Unemployment should be, you get some little bit, but then if you get a job, you get more. And then that lasts for six months. And then you're only eligible every five years to get that path or something. There should be an incentive to get a job. But we could also head this off in schools, right? Like we could have high schoolers who are all graduating with the requirement that they have some level of financial literacy, that they understand the consequences of credit card debt, of student loans, but we don't do that, right? And the obvious example of student loans is that

the government wants you to agree to take out student loans, which are crippling, that at 18, you may not know the consequences of, and that you are dependent on them. You are waiting for Joe Biden to forgive them, and hopefully he will, and maybe if we vote for him again, he'll finally forgive the student loans that are ruining my life.

Or transition from college is this liberal arts idea of this like 1890s creating the next generation of elites to have more of a mentorship apprenticeship program. Agreed. Instead of four years at Yale,

I'm spending four years at some company, and I'm starting from the bottom, and I have a mentor within the company who teaches me the ropes. That's a no-brainer. I got an idea. Abolish public schooling. That's a little extreme, Tim. I'm for it.

Are you for it? Are you kidding me? That's the first thing I'd abolish. Okay then, so we're in agreement. Number one. Yes. Public schooling is gone. Government schools are literal prisons for children. Yes, I agree. The only place many people ever encounter violence in their lives. You ever see the story about the kid in Chicago? They're literal prisons.

The kid in Chicago was locked in a padded room and then they wouldn't let him go to the bathroom. So he crapped himself and was crying. The school, a school in Chicago had a padded room to lock kids in. I remember there was audio where he's like, please, I'll be good. Let me out. Yep. You could hear the kid crying.

Some of those are like daycare, like parents that work. They're all daycare. Yeah. So if you abolished it, all those kids would be homeless, essentially. That's why we have a lot of work to do.

No fault divorce. Gone. Okay. 19th Amendment, gone. Well, I don't know about that. 17th Amendment, for sure. Which was that? The senators are elected. Oh, that's a no-brainer.

Yes. I was talking to some Missouri state rep But DOE gone, public education gone, all that. Yeah. I was talking to some Missouri state rep saying this should be the thing that you make your bones on. You should get rid of no fault divorce in your state because as soon as one state does it, all the other states will follow. I think this is something the culture really wants to change. And we see that the argument like, oh, you know, people don't believe abuse or whatever else. Like those things are so different in the modern era and restructuring the family

and creating social support systems that begin at home is really important. There was a story that since the overturning of Roe- No fault divorce, if you take that away, you're going to be getting a lot more rape accusations for innocent men. Because why wouldn't women play that card? Right, that's a cultural problem.

Yes, it is. But St. Levy? I don't like St. Levy when like, if you're gonna i mean this is a moral hazard that's right but like men who go through women will commit crimes therefore we should not fix the system i don't i didn't say i'm just saying if you're going to tear down a fence you should be aware why it was put up and what the consequences yeah and if you're not just anticipate if your dream is fence was put up because people were concerned about false right back accusations, I think the left is trying to just destroy this country. Sure. But what I'm saying is, I think this people in this country

generally are not used to the concept of trade offs. Right. And just because something is a good thing, does it mean like the idea that, for example, let's suppose the vaccines were actually prevented covid covid was deadly but you're probably going to get the flu for two weeks it's a cost but it's a cost you're willing to pay because the cost outweighs the right of course right so but people don't think of those terms like you can't say like this is something you have to do even though it's going to hurt a little bit it has to be there's something that has to do and there's never a cost to it it's called opportunity cost yes yes exactly. I think the issue for humans

is that they only ever want to drift towards the path of least resistance. And so the reason why you have wokeness today is that all that is required for you to triumph is that good men do nothing. So when the woke left starts causing destruction, damage, pain, and suffering, it is easier just to bow your head and say,

let it go, let it go, choose your battles, and now here we are. Another big problem is when people become obsessively goal-oriented. And it's like, I want that goal at any cost. If the goal is to remove the fence, really what we should be doing is making a plan as to how we're going to take that fence down. Because there's a lot of ways the fence could get removed. There's a lot of ways that the Department of Education could disappear. And one of them would be like the United States disappearing or like a global conquest.

Now you're speaking Michael's language. So we gotta be real careful about how we're gonna disassemble this thing if we wanna do it and still maintain semblance of peace and order. There's a book by Carol Markowitz and Bethany Mandel called Stolen Youth, which I just read. And I think most of, it's like you think that a lot of the stuff

that's going on in schools, like right-wing propaganda and people frothing at the mouth. But the receipts you see and talking to parents about what's going on in schools, because we're not in school. So we're kind of oblivious to it. It's all everything secondhand. It is so effed up. I don't even know where to start.

Right. And then the left lies and says it's not happening. And the media covers for them, even though it's like, here's the book. Here's the receipts. They go, nope. Information's good. I don't, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Math is good. But like a lot of that stuff,

it was real America-centric. My history lessons, Columbus sailed the ocean blue and discovered America. Like, I don't think we need to teach our kids that in the future. I'm open to like living on a farm in some foreign country and just teaching the kid how to farm and eat fruit and like identify plants and like the real important stuff.

Math is good too. I don't know if i'm totally responding what you're saying but i disagree i think having a sense of patriotism is good and i think it is a way to build common ground between people who come from different socioeconomic backgrounds i think if we just made it as like well america's just whatever it will actually further stratify uh the cultural enclaves that we. Here are things we aren't taught in schools. How to fill out an income tax form. How to work the legal system works. Logical fallacies.

If there was just a course, I learned in junior high how to calculate the dew point in Brooklyn and how to calculate when the water's saturated in the earth when there's too much rain. I was not taught to calculate interest rates or- I learned about photosynthesis. Yeah.

Helps me out a lot. Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. Yeah, that was an important one. Yeah. So it's crazy what the priorities are. We could say this is like

a financial literacy where you have to be able to be able to take care of yourself. You have to be able to understand how to read your lease or all these basic things. At least, yeah, what a lease was right there.

When I was a kid, they made us watch a cartoon where Adam was riding a brontosaurus. Adam who? Adam. Oh, Adam and Eve? Who do you think he's talking about? He was riding a brontosaurus.

Did you go to public school? This was private Catholic school. Confusion Catholic school. The issue was, and then they were basically like, the reason the dinosaurs died was because they couldn't fit on the ark. They were too big. Yeah, the propagandists. But there were small dinosaurs.

Well, you know, the point is- They didn't want to leave their friends behind that doesn't make sense but those are the big ones small ones they didn't want to let them starve dinosaurs survived they're in my backyard there's a bunch of them they're screaming all day yes the chickens yeah it is hilarious a really ridiculous question please that's your don't want to ask. Come on. This is your best. I don't want to dig the video. This is your best. Please. You ranked.

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TheBestSongEver.com. We need your support. And I'm really excited because it'll mean that Jeremy Boring, Michael Knowles, Tim Pool, Carter Banks, we will all be on the Billboard charts. I think we're there in some fashion, probably at a low ranking right now. We need to sell. I don't think we're definitely not going to hit it. If we sold like 50,000, we'd be hot 100.

And then you're on the list. Do you know how close you are? We're not going to hit it it we're like 25 maybe if everybody listening right now went to the best song ever.com and downloaded it then together again would would very likely be a hot 100 song and it would be the funniest thing ever because then the entertainment media would have to what write about why we were able to do this how we're able to do it now they'd say you hacked the system and i and i want them to yeah you're right because if encouraging your fans to buy a song is hacking the system what does that say about them right because the reality of the music industry

is it's fake all of it is fake 100 percent decades for decades the way it works is there's deals upon deals one company has a deal with another company you want your song in rotation you know you know this is this is what really is so irksome. It's not just that they told, you know the story they told Jeremy Boring? He offered him 150 grand to play one song one time and they told him no. And likely for political reasons.

Sure, certainly for political reasons. When we published our first song and it was not even political, we got an email back from one entertainment publication saying, go F yourselves. In those words? In those words. And so that that i get welcome to the world also there's issues with they're like oh no the numbers aren't being tracked properly i think we're looking at something like 2000 or like whoopsie daisies but the issue that really bugs me is when you see these songs

charting you're like who's this guy we look at the chart we're like what is this band i've never even heard of it because what they'll do is the label will go to a streaming platform and they'll say, do you want, insert celebrity artist, then you've got to guarantee us that you're going to put this guy on rotation and we want this song played every 16 times, which guarantees them X million hits, which guarantees them charting on Billboard

and all of these things. And so when we're talking to various people in the industry and we're like, what do we have to do to hit these same metrics? Like how do we get a, we have a new song, it's in this genre, it's in this, they'll never let you in. Here's the other thing.

I know a lot about this from my genre, which is publishing. The New York Times bestseller list, which is by all accounts, the most respected and desirable list that you get on, it has very little to do with sales. It's all editorial. They don't even tell you what the rankings are.

If you have a lot of sales, they could just flat out ignore you. Regnery, which is a publishing house for conservatives, they don't even submit to the New York Times list anymore because they said it was so fake, which is kind of frustrating for those Regnery authors who sell a lot of books. But they literally are explicit about like,

even people who work the New York Times don't know how they make up this rankings. So here's what I'm hoping. I'm hoping hoping that we can we'll force our way in yes and look it really just comes down to this first and foremost casper coffee we're on track for over a million dollars in our first year when we were doing our filing we had this like this third party contractor is like helping us out and they were like when you start the business and we were like april and they went what like they were shocked to hear how well it was doing so thank you everybody supporting casper and uh the coffee shop is currently underway furniture and tables and everything for the

club is is happening so that should be opening hopefully in the next couple of months and there will be a physical location to hang out i know it's taking too long to get the coffee shop up but it's because of regulations and and building code and stuff like that but um we're also just trying to we want to make, we want to make music. We want to make music. We want to sell it. So we're hoping people buy it. You know when you know you've made it?

When you have the articles talking about how much your music sucks. Because first they ignore you, then they have to laugh at you and denigrate you. Yeah, this one, I feel like you forced together again already. Now it's been forced. Now it's just riding. Like it's hot in Toronto.

I heard it's hot in Asia somewhere. I guess we were trending in Toronto and Hong Kong. I think it made it. Like now it's good just to it's hot in toronto it's i heard it's in asia i guess we were trending in toronto and hong kong i think it made it like now it's good just to rest on it it makes sense we know the sales numbers and they're good but they're nowhere near where we would need them to be sure and so that's fine that's fine i'm not like pumping money into promotion now we're we're we're spending a lot on marketing and it is what it is. We've sold what we could sell. We have today and tomorrow. Tomorrow's the last day.

So like I said, if everybody listening right now went to the best song ever.com and bought the song, we would absolutely hit hot 100. When we're finally able to do that is when they're going to drop a load in their pants. Actually, I think it's when this is industry only. It's when it gets into a movie, like a really pop, which it could do. Just listen, man. If it gets into a big popular movie, then it's like outside of your hands because it's the kind of song where people are going to pick it up and play it locally we we have been dealing with this for two years now

uh our first song was published in 2020 we didn't we were i was i was like i don't even know how to make it work and it got millions of hits people know the song will of the people it did really really well we get ripped off we get spat. You don't just get in a movie. A record. That's extremely political. It's all politics. There's no circumstance where our songs land in movies. It's not happening.

Well, if you say that out loud, sure. It's a fact. You want that to not happen, go for it. I mean, it could definitely land in a movie. It's an awesome song. That's not how it works. That's not how it works. You're wrong.

I'm not saying it's going to be in Paramount's next feature, but it could, years after we win the culture war perhaps yes the way it works is a guy in hollywood goes to his friend across the street and says what song do you want placed in the movie end of story it could be in daily liars next big thing no but hold on can i say one thing you'll seriously see it what how it works is the caa director casts caa actors and actresses and has a CAA production assistant and has CAA affiliated musicians to do the soundtrack. These big agencies work that way. So if Tim's not CAA or Gersh or any of these other agencies, it doesn't even have to be radioactive in terms of politics.

Like it's just not a- And so this is my point. Yes, you're right. It could get in the Daily Wire. And what would the Daily Wire do for us? Are they going to get get us on caa uta or any of these big networks no it could as the daily wire is doing now help drive sales which is why we teamed up with them both of both jeremy boring michael knolls me carter banks are all like we have been pushing back on woke industries and their control of these systems so the only thing they cannot prevent is if we sell enough we hit hot 100 and then the entertainment media is going to be dropping a load

in their pants being like they are invading our spaces and we can't stop them and the other thing is it's not just specifically woke it's also in group and out group right right it's just simply that like we all we're all friends in la like we work together who's this guy from shelbyville it's just not happening we don't want someone to take our power from us exactly so we've built walls around the industry that you have to come to us and pay your dues you got to join our unions you got to file your paperwork with us and we say if your music is good or not there's a there's a there's a song i really determine yes there's a song i really really like and it was on my rotation in my playlist when I'm skating.

And I looked at the song. It had 1,500 views on YouTube. That was it. There were articles written about this song, and I was like, that is what they do. They decide that some guy who produced a song in his garage, and he did, and it's a good song, they decided we're going to make this song.

And you know what else they do? They own it. So when someone like us says we're going to make our own music say we don't own it so you're not welcome here right when we when when when our publicist said here's a new song we literally got back an email saying go f yourselves and so i'm just like but that was for me to be fair yeah war you just get so aggressive about music it's the dr pepper zero You ask yourself why it is that like, when you open Pandora, Spotify or whatever, and you open a playlist, there's music on it.

Who chooses that? Can I, can I? You can be friends with some of these guys. Like let's say you're a musician and you know a guy who works at this place, you might find your song in rotation. Congratulations. I am such a hipster that when I was on Rogue

and I think the time before last, I wore a t-shirt from a TweetPop band that I'm like, okay, I'm going to get all these accolades because not one person knew the band. Not one person in the comments anywhere was like, oh, he likes that band. We're going to read some super chats.

We're going to read super chats here. Let's do it. Clint Torres hits the first super chat again with howdy people. And Drizala, sorry. He says first with a, you know, ooh, fingers. No, you are not first.

Sorry. Robert Suppenbach says first. Please, you know, fingers. No, you are not first. Sorry. Robert Suppenbach says first. Please unblock me, Michael. I don't even know. I don't know who you are. That seems like it's not true. I feel like there's deception. I block people on the regular.

Coldy Locks production says, while the Colorado ruling on removing Trump from the ballot has a stay until January 4th, there is also a clause that states if it is challenged to the U.s supreme court that stay becomes indefinite meaning this is a bs ruling it's not a bs ruling it's a testing of the waters maybe it's legally bs but it's politically testing the waters yeah 52 movies a year says michael when will you be paying rosanne her 1k up up up we will talk about this in the members only show because michael has like a huge thing about it i had i've had a 20 minute imaginary argument with you guys okay he's he's he's he's mapped out the entire conversation get the bit yeah and he's and he's he's bested us before we even realize it i'm not saying i won the imaginary argument i'm just saying i had to come prepared different

documents all right yes uncle gugg says how's bocus doing well um he's very uh chill yeah he's very chill. Yeah. He's walking around. He's doing his thing. I am kind of worried, though. He's relatively low energy. His energy has been going down. He's made it a year longer than we thought it was, that we thought he would.

And the scary thing to me was that he's trying to hide a lot. That's bad. Yes. An indication that he feels sick. Yeah. You know? Depends on his mood a lot of times cats are really in tune with how you feel so if there's stress in the environment they'll go away from it and if you're really in a good mood they'll come join you my cat well that's

absolutely and right at the end of his life the only time he ever hid from me it was really sad bocus that's giving into the left hand yeah cats go and hide because when they're sick they they try to protect themselves from predators by hiding intention can make you sick yeah i don't think mr bocus can psychically sense our emotions i think he is sick because his kidneys are failing and so he is hiding because it's an instinct cats have to hide from predators when they're weak and for this the more he tries to hide the more worried i become um if it was just that some people here are stressed out i actually wouldn't feel bad at all but i choose not to live in those worlds. I choose to live in the world of medical science.

Sometimes it's like a self-perpetuating cycle where cat looks ill and then you become nervous and sad. And then the cat becomes more ill and then you become more sad. But if you can stay positive, he comes back out and he gets very active. Drewish AF says, Tim, I cannot use PayPal, so I can't buy the song as best song ever as your link to receive the Casper discount. Any alternatives

for longtime Timcast members? I think that was basically the only way we could actually make that work. You can buy the song on iTunes, and we were number one on iTunes in the first day, which is awesome,

but we are not pushing iTunes sales because we have this discount code. Sure. But iTunes and Amazon, if you go to the best song ever dot com, there's Amazon as well. And I know nobody likes these things. But look, we're we're just trying to storm the gates. It is what it is. And yeah, unfortunately, that was the best way we could do it.

The sale for a lot of people have pointed this out. If you want to buy the song and get the discount code, the default is PayPal. But I think you just enter your, you don't need an account or anything. You just use your credit card and it processes by PayPal.

And one thing I also want to point out because being Mr. Whitefield here, what? You got another one? Of course, yeah. I just have like a vending machine on the desk. I think for people who think

that America is doomed or the West is doomed, first of all, I always say we don't need a majority. We just need an alternative. But there are so many people, especially young people, who are champing at the bit to be able to support creators that they like. And they're like, how can I support you? Give me product to buy. I want to wear the shirts. I want to buy your music. So if you do have that number, and I think the number is very clearly increasing, that also bodes very well for the future of our culture you know i don't think the united states is doomed but like nazi germany germany wasn't doomed because of what happened in

the 30s it just changed and that's where i feel like the united states is headed well i mean germany was invaded split in half so i don't i think yeah and leveled i mean they were bombed to oblivion we have we got a good one here from not m80 says maybe the civil war statues are being removed to make room for the upcoming civil war statues foreshadowing yikes that's a good one yeah i like that one oh boy based jew says dear tim please find a way to bring the insane clown posse onto the culture war woo woo uh i think we did talk about booking them one at one point yeah violent violent jay's autobiography is very good yeah what's their politics like are they they're they're lefties um they're they're very i this is a red pill moment for me i remember like this must have been 10 15 years ago i had one

their album's friend gave it to me and it's actually there's like what there's a song called still stabbing because like it starts with i still have this stabbing problem it's a sequel to the song stabbing and i had a job interview and the guy interviewing me was like 27 i was just mentioned maybe wasn't job interview so he was like my uh i was doing temping work and i talk about this band he sings about throwing the head of the record label out the window and he rides on the bicycle seat without the seat because he killed the post worker and he goes yeah man some people are so crazy and i'm like they call themselves clowns they wear clown makeup and what how many cues do you need that this is a joke i like that the fbi classifies

them as uh sort of a terrorist organization the juggalos the juggalos get a bad rap and icps and good music this would be a great culture where i'm totally this is what i spent the beginning of 2020 pandemic researching and on my facebook there's a picture of me i got the face i did the face paint as violent jay once so i would love to meet violent jay or shaggy all right hunter killer says with this ruling they are getting dangerously close to a contingent election happening yeah i think there's uh that's another possibility we may see trump v desantis r RFK Biden in 2024. If the if the GOP is split, they pull they pull Trump off, which results in a contingent election where state delegations will then have to choose. Donald Trump then wins. The left then says Trump not only didn't win, he only got 27 percent of the vote or, you know,

31 percent didn't even win the Electoral College and his cronies appointed him. And they'll use it as justification for their extreme violence. It's not impossible. I think it's very unlikely. Agreed. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right.

Marion Holtzman says, all right, I bought the song. Everybody come on now. 69 cents is very reasonable. Support our culture war. I'll say this. We put out the song Bright Eyes and we did nothing to promote it. It was fun to make. We made a music video for it.

We had a good time. It is what it is. I also recognize it's not just about, hey, we made a song, quick, everybody have to buy it. It's, we need like 5,000 songs. We need a massive library. What we can't do is make movies. We're not movie people. But I grew up playing music. Ian plays music. Carter Banks

is an amazing producer. And the quality of the music videos we've produced has actually got a lot of industry guys really excited. Sorry, I don't want to interrupt you. No, no, no. I was going to make a big announcement today, but it was too close to the holidays. But my next project is,

I wrote a screenplay about this band from the 80s that never made it. It's a real band. And through the keyboard player, I met Harvey Pekar, who wrote a graphic novel about me called Egon Hubris. So I realized I had this script in my desk since 2004. I should make a graphic novel of it. And it's the

real story of this band and i'm like i was going to start my indiegogo but i'm going to do it when i was going to launch on the show and see if we could fund it live but i'll come back when i'm ready to do it we're we're going to have a completed album i think around like maybe february or march i think march and so that means there's probably going to be like three or four songs that we never do big releases for like every song we've put out has been a video and a promotion because we're like we're gonna come in with a bang but we we really are just coming to the point where we're negotiating with some bands on signing some bands we need some more artists ideally we just get to the point where we spend a million bucks get like 500 songs from a bunch of different artists out and we just

we want to funnel money into creative people it's not just about the music that i or carter is making uh we're just not at this point yet because we're small it's like carter's the one guy who's running all this stuff ideally within the next year we have two or three more bands some producers and we're putting out like two or three songs a month from different artists and so that's what we're going that's what we're going that's the plan this this one that we're releasing now is kind of like i called jeremy boring and i was like i got this idea and i explained him what we wanted to do and he laughed his ass off and was like let's roll baby he told the story about he offered a hundred times the market rate to play a song a hundred thousand dollars and they told him no and he was like i we know why yeah they're they're they're

keep they're they're they're gatekeeping and it's not irrational on their part because if they if they get the foot in the door then it's all over yep it's crazy so we made a fake song mocking them called together again and then i said let's make a modern version of this and and put it out there and just promote it like crazy and then get it on billboard and then keep mocking them yes tell them they can't keep us out we're banging on the door we're coming in all right let's grab some more super chats the best song ever.com all right where we at uh biken 153 says i think the reason colorado is pushing so hard to get trump off the ballot is because sb19042 it was passed in 2019 and says that colorado's electoral votes go to the winner of the national popular vote instead of who colorado votes for perhaps but the funny thing about that is that uh michael made a good point

about it the point i made in the past was it opens the door to california going republican california is two to one democrat but they're part of this national vote coalition meaning that if a republican does win the popular vote californ votes Republican, which would never happen outside of this stupid plan they have. But you made a better point. My friend made a documentary about the Electoral College, and I'm blanking on the name. I feel really bad. But one of the points he made in the movie is if you have abolished the Electoral College and you just have the popular vote, it makes it a lot easier and encourages a white nationalist

candidate because all you have to do is advocate to whites which are the biggest group by population in this country by far and you get enough of them you have the election you why right why pitch toward a group which is two percent or thirteen percent of the population where you could pitch to a group that's fifty percent of population and just with their numbers alone a few from the others you're going to have everything you take it's very dangerous um uh strategy for the part of the left let's read some more paul tascalo says i lost faith in our justice system in 2016 when obama pardoned the iranian bomb maker it made me sad what colorado did to trump yesterday makes me

scared well hold on i got into this drives me crazy because people think history started five minutes ago bill clinton pardoned terrorists who bombed Congress. The FALN, I think they were called. I don't remember what it was. But there were, I think, Puerto Rican separatists. They bombed Congress and Clinton pardoned. Can you please look this up, Ian? So talk about the insurrection.

Like he let them free. And they were unrepentant. They weren't like, we promise we'll never do it again. Yeah, FALN. Read this out please there's a lot of data this is actually from congress.gov are you gonna say no i was gonna say do you want to collect the yeah i'll take a look and then let me read this uh to snalorum says if civil war broke out substations would get hit everywhere within a month the grid would never

come up feds and liberals and cities would lose to people capable of self-governance and survival within six months when their oil ran out with zero infrastructure. I think more importantly, if there was an actual civil war, you would see attacks on infrastructure instantly. Industrial control systems are very vulnerable. New York City would become hell. Yeah, but you'd also very quickly see globalist backup. So Europe would be coming in. China would be coming in..s doesn't exist as a like our city in a bubble i still don't think new york can maintain i'm not arguing with you i'm just saying it wouldn't be this simple like no no for sure what i'm saying oh yeah right british trade routes would be pumping new york new york new york would be hell more so the power would be would be they'd be fighting

to keep the power on that means there's going to be water issues people without water are going to it's it's i i don't think they can say yeah but they look at the narrative then because look what they're doing to these poor new yorkers this is this you know the shining matter i it'll matter some people it'll matter to karen yeah but when we're in a civil war we're at the the civil war is the point of brother against brother they could say whatever they want the radio and someone's going to be like you're you're terrorist pedophiles i don't care right but there's other people who would be like no they're the terrorist pedophiles of course people in radio and someone's going to be like, you're, you're terrorist pedophiles. I don't care. Right. But there's other people who would be like,

no, they're the terrorist pedophiles. Of course, people in New York are going to be like, look what they're doing to us. Yes, exactly. And they'll be angry about it. And that fuels civil war.

Sure. I've got this. New York is going to be a bunch of people eating each other. And I'm, I'm not joking. I mean, they will literally start consuming human bodies. Ian,

you have the data. Oh yeah. This is the, uh, follow up on the Clinton, pardon, uh, FALN commutation,

1999. It was Clinton's commuted the census of 16 members of this FALN, a Puerto Rican paramilitary organization that set up 120 bombs in the United States, mostly in New York City and Chicago. I could go on and on about this. I'm going to read this. I'm not sure what he's saying. He bombed terrorists. This is 99.

Commuted, excuse me, terrorists. Digital DNA says, Michael Malice, if you can't see how LEOs abuse the power of the system, you have no reason to talk. What a foul opinion. Your entire argument for anything else falls apart. LEOs are the gatekeepers to how common folk move. Wake up, buddy. What are LEOs?

Cops. Law enforcement officers. Yeah. You're an anarchist. Who's he talking to? I don't understand. I don't get this. i want to hear your honest opinion i was having this conversation with right in mind am i am i incorrect that i am probably by the the biggest person by far who has gotten right of center people red pilled on the police yeah probably i can't think of who

else would be yeah i feel like a general opinion of the right is we like our police officers but too many police in big cities are completely corrupt and appointed by democrats which exposes the the vulnerabilities of the police but i think also conservatives are now realizing who's going to come for your guns it's not going to be pelosi whereas 10 years ago it's strictly thin blue line it's either thus or so the rioters yeah like wait a minute they're on the side of the rioters but i mean you even look at uh when we were talking with Tucker and Charlie Kirk, they now understand Occupy Wall Street a lot better. These conversations have opened up

and we all agree Occupy was taken over by woke psychopaths. I love someone having to tell me how bad the police are and that they're basically doing what the government tells them. This is fascinating stuff. It's kind of worrying that they think less of the police than you. Or maybe I'm getting trolled, in which case well done. Right.

Two Way Willie says, I also heard Don Jr. defend anheuser-busch on your show maybe him and dana know better than us maybe there's something there it's because anheuser-busch gives a ton of money to republicans a lot and so do they give money democrats as well they often play that game where they play i think they give a substantially large amount of money a larger amount of money to republicans like a lot and so look it really just comes down to this the idea that when it comes to bud light we just stop where we are and say yay boycott it's it's like you you you want a battlefield and then all your troops laid down their weapons sat down and started cooking a roast and it's like guys we're still at war here someone's got to be preparing for what our next move is where are we going what are we doing And everyone's just like, no, no, we stay here.

And I'm like, no one forgave Paula Deen. That's true. I had Kurt Metzger on my show, who's a great comedian. I don't know if you guys ever had him on. I would highly recommend him.

And he goes, I did the homework. This old, like, fat Southern lady was robbed at gunpoint in a bank. And that's the only, she had to be traumatized

using racial slur and kurt this kurt's line he goes they should build a statue to paula dean and have the plaque say she only said it once like she's the most but that's the thing she's still a persona grata my my my point on bud light is if conservatives position is there is no redemption ever for any company that crosses them that is exactly the meme of the left pushing the guy to the right and then arguing that he's joined ranks with the right there's redemption when there's um uh but but look look i don't care about redemption i care about occupation that's fair but the point is you i agree there's a rule for redemption but

the suggestion has to be we learn from our mistakes and we won't do it again. People can be redeemed, but corporations are just, shut them down. A corporate apology matters in the culture war in that it resonates culturally. Yes. And so if the argument from people right now is, and it is strongly, even in the chat, they're like, no, no, we must do nothing. We're stopping

where we are. I'm like, you need to take everything Sean Strickland has said and start cheering for that and bud light as a means to force bud light to issue a statement instead all on much more sense to me yes yeah i'm like doing nothing everyone's like the boycott stays my position on kid rock dana white joe rogan is major cultural forces have argued for we've we've And I'm like, okay, that means the victory and gain here is minimal. But at the very least, you send a message to corporate America. If you cross us, we destroy you. But if you side with us, we will make you wealthy.

Yeah, you punish the bad behavior. You reward good behavior. I don't think you need to reward good behavior. I think it's more of a march through the institution where if they mess with you, you wound them. And then you continue your march. And if another corporation does it again march the institutions is grom she's idea the idea is you seize institutions one by one this is no one's doing any of that no one's doing any of that you're literally czar no i'm saying right now on the right they're like we've won because we don't buy bud light okay come april bud light will put 100

million dollars into woke causes they're gonna say the right has abandoned us and there's no there's no recovery our our only growth opportunity while100 million into woke causes. They're going to say the right has abandoned us and there's no recovery. Our only growth opportunity, while minimal, will be woke causes. It'll double down. It'll bifurcate. Yep. And I'm like, this is why there has to be a move made now. Or the other option is to just say you won.

Kid Rock says we win. Joe Rogan says we win. Don't you forget it. That's all you can do. I don't understand why Kid Rock and Joe Rogan would want to drink Bud Light. Maybe I'm too much of a bougie Brooklyn person. See, it makes me wonder, like, do they make ad money off of it? Like, do they, at a certain

point, do they have to, like... Joe's not like that. Joe's not getting his money. I'm not accusing him of anything. It is really, it is really, it is really simple. Bud Light sponsored Dylan Mulvaney and it pissed everyone off, and Kid Rock said that was bad. Bud Light givesc 100 million dollars and says oh okay ufc is way more based got way more people who are pro trump trump walks into

ufc to fanfare i think we got this one but people are like not good man if people's morals can be bought with money we're screwed and and they were mad at money in the first place they were mad that money went to dylan mulvaney they were mad and they're not satisfied that money's coming coming in this well no it's gender ideology stuff that was the principal i was mad that they were mad at money in the first place. They were mad that money went to Dylan Mulvaney. They were mad that they were selling beer to children. And they're not satisfied that money is coming in this direction. Well, no, it was gender ideology stuff. That was the principal reason. I was mad that they were selling it to children. Right, of course, and I agree with that.

And so the issue is, sending money to the UFC is a structural victory. It's not the greatest culture war victory. It's not exactly what you want. But if you're not satisfied with it, you cannot do nothing. And the idea that all anyone has to do right now is just not by Bud Light is wrong. And so my argument has been, everyone, please, Sean Strickland said January 6th was the most patriotic thing this country's done in a long time. Everyone should take that tweet, quote tweet it with a picture of them holding up Bud Light saying, thanks Bud

Light for paying for this message. Thank you for sponsoring this and fueling patriotism. The other thing I'm wondering about, I could be wrong. It seems to me, remember like not that long ago, Linda Sarsour was everywhere. Yeah. That as soon as there was a pushback against massive Muslim immigration, you can't even find this bee on the side of a milk carton.

Is Dylan Mulvaney now kind of become radioactive and has vanished or no? Let's do this. We'll go to the members only. We'll talk about that. I can tell you a lot about that. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to the channel share

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the side surfs who do those realistic cakes Ty Rivera and a few Lex Friedman supposedly and a few other people so I think it's really important

like you were saying earlier Tim that we create spaces for people to be able to feel like they're part of a community and that's one of the things Lex Friedman, supposedly, and a few other people. So I think it's really important, like you were saying earlier, Tim, that we create spaces for people to be able to feel like they're part of a community. And that's one of the things I'm so excited about being in Austin, being able to be a part of that. And I'm going to have big news. My episode with Jordan Peterson, again, drops tomorrow on his podcast. And I'll launch that Indiegogo.

Maybe I'll come back on here and launch it here so you can fund it live. Sounds cool. I love your Christmas live stream. That's so festive. It's so festive. I feel like people don't realize you have to make Christmas fun. I'll make it. I'll just say one more thing

about the Christmas thing. So Natalie, E. Nesbitt is my favorite author. She's a British children's author. So from the late 1800s, early 1900s, I read all her books. Every time there's a weird dish mentioned,

I had a list. So we'll be cooking a bunch of those weird British dishes. Weird British food for Christmas. It's the best way to celebrate. I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow. I'm a writer for So we'll be cooking a bunch of those weird British dishes. Weird British food for Christmas. It's the best way to celebrate. I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow. I'm a writer for scnr.com, also known as Scanner News. If you want to follow their work, you can still follow at TimCastNews on Instagram and Twitter.

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Yeah, great to have you back, Michael, as always. Excited for this after show. It's going to be fun. So let's get to it. All right. We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute. Thanks for hanging out. you