Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #931 Epstein Docs Dropped, Dershowitz, Clinton Named w/Ilan Srulovicz

Episode Date: January 4, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil, & Serge join Ilan Srulovicz to discuss the release of the Epstein documents and Bill Clinton, Alan Dershowitz being named in the Epstein documents Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And I will just come out right and say Bill Clinton is named in it, though I don't think there's anything in the documents that implicate, well, so far, so far, okay, the documents have just dropped in the past hour or so. We're still going through them. Bill Clinton is named. Apparently, he likes him young. That's the quote. Yeah, so we'll see what we dig up uh uh we'll see what we dig up but there's a lot of really shocking things

about prince andrew about this uh what's the jean-luc brunel was that his name let me make sure i have his name right uh yes jean-luc brunel and alan dershowitz implicated in oh boy we're gonna keep the language light as we get the show going but uh let's just say non-consensual activities of the minor so holy crap additionally which was really surprising to me i'm not surprised to find donald trump is named in these documents but it really does seem like it's exculpatory the witness i believe it's jew fray i could be wrong because we're just going through documents now, says, never met Donald Trump.

And they say, how did you know that Epstein was friends with him? Well, Epstein said he was friends with him. But did you ever see him? No. Was he ever around? No. Did he ever have sex with any other girls? No. So apparently, we're going to have to go through this and figure out exactly what's going on. And I'm reluctant so far to just say outright we know for sure because we have to read through all the documents. But the accusations against Alan D dershowitz are absolutely insane i mean this is we got to go through this ladies and gentlemen i hope you're in for a wild ride tonight as we

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share the show. We are diving into these documents, this court documents live tonight. Joining us to talk about all of this and more is Ilan Srulevich. What's going on? How are you? Good. All things considered, who are you? What do you do? My name is Ilan Srulevich. I am the CEO of Edgard Watch Company. We're known for... Oh, we're all wearing the watches, I believe. Oh, yeah. Well, not all of us. I'm wearing one.

Sorry, I put mine on immediately. Put it on, damn it, bitch. Come back to me. Well, we're known for putting out controversial ads you know we did an ad in response to gillette back in the day called what is a man we did one uh in the height of the defund police movement called speak truth we did one recently called erased in support of biological women in sports and i'm also an actor i've been on numerous tv shows recently finished shooting a documentary about psychogenic epidemics.

It's really interesting. We did some really cool social experiments in there. And lifelong martial artists. And Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt. Wow. And all that kind of stuff. Well, right on. Thanks for hanging out.

Should be fun. Phil's here. Hi, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte, lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. Failed musician and anti-communist and counter revolutionary hannah claire hi i'm also the lead singer of all that remains no i'm just kidding uh hi i'm hannah claire brimwell i'm a writer for scnr.com it's also scanner news i do in fact also

now have my watch on so thanks for this gift it's pretty cool i'm very excited about i've never had a watch like this and of course serge is here yep here. Yep. I'm bringing up the caboose here. Yeah. Let's get to the show, though, Tim. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the first segment, 2024, day three. And it's kicking off with this story from SCNR.com. Epstein docs, quote, he said that one time that Clinton likes them young, referring to girls. Bill Clinton, of course, is named in the documents as a friend of Jeffrey Epstein and who likes them young.

Now, I will. I just want to clarify real quick. The date is appearing incorrectly, probably because it's like there's some publishing thing. I want to make sure it's clear because people are going to be like, hey, why does it say January 4th on January 3rd? But so we just put this up. This is the story. The documents have dropped and the site that was hosting them crashed almost instantly. Now, I want to make we're going to be very, very careful on this one.

The documents have just come out. These are court records and the names are all unsealed. So not every single name. A few names are being withheld because they're saying that their lives are in danger. But of course, Clinton Clinton was expected to be named. He is named so far. I can't say based on the work our journalists and other journalists are doing that Bill Clinton is directly implicated in overt wrongdoing. We do know that Clinton was a friend of Epstein's who flew on the plane and that let me let me read the story for you.

Bill Clinton was prominently featured in the newly unsealed documents from the Epstein case. Court documents connected to Epstein's sex trafficking were unsealed and made public on Wednesday evening. In a document titled Exhibit 5 from Virginia Giuffre v. Ghislaine Maxwell, there's a transcript of the deposition of Johanna Schoberg. How do you pronounce that? Schoberg has accused Prince Andrew of sexual abuse when she was a minor, which she says was orchestrated by Epstein and Maxwell. During the deposition, Schoberg was questioned by Giuffre's attorney, Sigrid S. McCauley, about former President Bill Clinton. Do you know if Bill Clinton was a friend of Jeffrey Epstein? McCauley asked.

I knew he had dealings with Bill Clinton. I did not know they were friends until I read the Vanity Fair article about them going to Africa together. Did Jeffrey ever talk to you about Bill Clinton? Questioned McCauley. Quote, he said one time that Clinton likes them young. Referring to girls. Oh boy.

Said I had dealings. So here's this is actual from the from the court documents. Sjoberg said she did not meet Clinton or personally see him on the island. Clinton was previously identified in the Epstein case as Doe 36. He is named in dozens of the redacted court filings. So first name on the list. Everybody was was was looking for and expected to see ABC News. A bunch of outlets said Clinton would be on it, is on it. What can we extrapolate from

Epstein saying he likes him young? Look, let's let's hold our horses a little bit. First, I give Bill Clinton very little benefit of the doubt, nor would I give Epstein in these documents. There are accusations. I mean, these are shocking things. Mario novel on Twitter, posting an excerpt that a woman claims Epstein had Alan Dershowitz rape her. And she was a minor. So when Epstein says he likes him young, what do you think young means to a guy who's trafficking minors?

I ain't given any of these people the benefit benefit of the doubt. Yeah. I think the standard here is that they're all minors so when they say he likes them young a super minor that's the imprecubescent is almost what you know like i don't know what that means but it means disturbingly good well this is this terrifying and creepy thing if these if these guys we know are trafficking minors and they say he likes them young in reference to the already underage girls, yeah, it sounds like these are young children. Yeah. But again, these documents don't prove any of that. It's just a statement from Epstein.

It could very well be that when he's like he likes them young, the young is a wink wink underage, right? And that's what they're doing. So he could just be that's what they're doing so he could just be explaining exactly what they do but i gotta tell you man somebody walks up up walks up to me on the street let's just say some random dude with crazy hair missing teeth black eyes bloody nose and he's twitching and he goes bill clinton is is is hooking up with underage girls on epstein island i'd be like, oh yeah, I heard that. You could be the craziest looking dude.

I'm going to be like, uh-huh. Yeah. Tell me more. They should all be punished to the fullest extent of the law. And there is not one thing that is going to happen to any of them at all. Maybe, maybe Dershowitz. But I think that it's unlikely. And it's also extremely unfortunate.

Florida has great laws about this recently passed laws about this. And I would love to see them all punished. I would love to see them all prosecuted in Florida. And if they are found guilty, they should be. I think one of the problems is that they're going to start trying to spin this to be like Trump is more involved than he says he is. Like there's one document that I'm looking at right now. We're talking about a plaintiff who said at one point I worked at the spa at Mar-a-Lago and that's where I met Glenn Maxwell. And then she brought me over to Epstein.

So they're going to try and make it such a ridiculous claim. But again, people only read the headline. That should be considered. That should be obvious to everyone. Considering the media that should that should. I mean, that goes without saying that they're going to be doing everything. I just think that we're sadly and I really mean this in the most tragic way, we're so polarized that people will have such strong confirmation bias that they will just hyper

fixate regardless of what happens on Trump. And it's a lost cause. All this will disappear. And it, you know, that's what I worry about most. No, no, no, no. I'm just keep going. I'm saying yes. No.

So the question is, how do do you how do you combat that how do you make this a story that continues on forward and keep attention on it that you're never going to break that hyper tribalism and so the fact that we now have these docs and these names and these accusations again they're still accusations by witnesses because this is not a criminal trial but i think when you get a woman saying that dershowitz raped her we should be like hey maybe we should continue that investigation into this guy because we have an accusation from him. Hey, me too, remember? Yeah, me too goes out the window when it's not convenient anymore. That's right. But I want to add to this, man. always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer.

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iGamingOntario. It is day three of 2024. Y'all knew it was coming and coming quick! I tweeted, it has begun on New Year's when 2024 strikes, and apparently that freaked people out, as I'm told. I'll keep it a little bit private, but people were like that really freaks people out and i'm like i didn't say

that it says 2024 the abstinence documents it's it's like we're sitting on a powder keg and somebody walked up with a with a couple five gallon drums of gasoline and placed them on top of that powder keg and then gave us a wink and walked away. Because like you're mentioning, Hannah Clare, with mention of Trump in it, it's going to be, I said this is going to happen. I said the other day, Trump's name will be in it. And the media is going to say Donald Trump named in court documents. No one on the left is going to research it and care. They're going to run with it and be like, see, that proves it. Yeah. We're headline driven. And then the narrative is going to become about that. This should be a wake up call to the entire country.

When you really think about what's going on here, when you really think about how corrupt, deep and sick this is, like it's so disturbing. And yet somehow we're sitting here, we're talking about it. It's not even something you talk about. I'm actually waiting a little bit before we get,

because we got these segments planned. I want to get into this stuff, like the Dershowitz stuff. Yeah, it's sick. Understatement. Someone super chatted Soul Kitchen said, sounds like the October surprise came early. Oh, no, no, no. See, if this is January.

Yeah. If this is January, you wait until October. This is great. Look, the documents come out an hour ago, and some of the tweets that are already going out are like, I'm scared to say, not because of political stuff. It's because people got kids at home that are listening. You're going to have to explain when you read through court documents about what Dershowitz is accused of doing, Brunel is accused of doing, and then Brunel turns up dead. Nobody believes Epstein killed himself. Even if he did, we talked about this last night, even if he did kill himself, it kind of doesn't matter

because he killed himself because of what was happening. But not because of guilt, because he doesn't want to face any consequences. Well, yeah, exactly. But the point is, what he had done, and the consequences would be so dramatic because he's done such terrible things, he didn't do them

by himself i just like to point out like we know that okay first let's start from the beginning powerful government leaders order the the murder of people all the time yeah it is not a conspiracy theory to say that barack obama ordered people dead it is not a conspiracy theory to say that barack obama ordered the killing of american citizens without due process without due process we know this perfect yes but but but we can be careful we can be careful because there's there's there's arguments in the press about what really happened with the killing of anwar al-alaki and abdulrahman al-alaki and there were other

american citizens but no no barack obama ordered these military actions which resulted in the death i like to be fair about it right if we know in the new york times bang 16 year old american citizen killed by by barack obama and when the obama administration's question they said whoopsie daisy we were targeting someone else when uh luke ridkowski's team we are changed when they questioned it was uh uh was it charlie gibbs i can't remember who i want to be careful it's been 10 years but when he questions these guys and says why was an american citizen killed the guy goes he should have had a better father and that is what the president is doing so it's crazy to think that with epstein nobody believes he killed himself this other guy jean-luc brunel who was found dead in his prison cell nobody believes he killed himself this other guy jean-luc brunel who was found dead in his prison cell nobody believes he killed himself everybody was like how long until gillane is gone it's crazy to

think that everybody knows it's a it's a i love this thing it's a secret to everybody right you know that one from legend of zelda meaning it's a secret everybody knows it's true right it's like it's it's it's we're supposed to pretend that this that there's no one out there just killing the enemies of powerful elites. It's a conspiracy out in the open. Exactly. Yeah. But it's it's it's crazy to see their whole mechanism for doing this is broken. Well, I mean, they're just doing it in your face because they can.

I mean, the conspiracy now is not that Epstein didn't kill himself. It's that Epstein did kill himself. That's the minority. That would be the minority position. That would be the weird position to take, for sure. I mean, it's challenging because there are so many characters involved in this that people who are aware of this will recognize and know sort of who to dig through the documents for. But for the average American, they know kind of who Epstein is.

They know that he died. They know that weirdly he's connected to something. But because the subject is so repugnant, people don't want to talk about, you know, especially the rape of minors. They don't talk about sexual repugnant, people don't want to talk about, you know, especially the rape of minors. They don't talk about sexual assault that they aren't going to want to talk about. It's similar to me to the beginnings of the Larry Nassar trial. Right. Like it was so abhorrent. It was so terrible that this person who was given authority over young children was able to hurt them so badly.

But that also there were lots of people who could have intervened and did nothing. And that was what I think really awoke a lot of people to this idea that these big institutions aren't to be trusted. But now you have people who they recognize, right? Like they don't think Prince Andrew could do this. And if he did, they don't want to think about the details of it. There's going to be a resistance to going for the truth. Before we get into the real dark stuff, we got to talk about Donald Trump.

Donald Trump, of course, is named in the court documents. But before we're not going to bury the lead, it seems to be more exculpatory so far. And I will say this first and foremost, you find in these court documents evidence and accusations against Donald Trump. I am alongside, you know, I will say be it him or Dershowitz or anybody else, investigate, lock up anybody who was engaged in this trafficking. But cursory search, all I did, the control F Trump. And what we find. So there were a few instances initially. They say Maxwell said this is the closer to the beginning of the document.

Jeffrey Epson, who is a friend of Donald Trump. So I figured, well, he was a good guy or whatever, you know, and and what she was going to learn and she was going to learn massage therapy did virginia tell you this oh i can tell you uh i can't tell you what date and time blah blah blah so trump is passively mentioned here the next instance of his mention is this uh this is a court statement not an interview the other the other portions of the of the court records are uh interview interview with witnesses and victims. In this one, it says three. Donald Trump was a good friend of Mr. Epstein and, quote, flirted with me.

Now, here's interesting. Jump to the next instance of Donald Trump. She says, OK, and what else did you put a check by? Quote, Donald Trump was a good friend of Jeffrey's. He didn't partake in any sex with any of us, but he flirted with me. He'd laugh and tell Jeffrey you've got the life. Other than the three you've just mentioned, everything else on here is absolutely accurate. Yes.

What the witness is saying is that statement, that quote is not accurate. You jump to the next instance. All right. What's inaccurate about the last statement on the page? Quote, Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey's. That part is true. Quote, he didn't partake in any of any sex with us, but he flirted with me. It's true that he didn't partake in any sex with us, but it's not true that he flirted with me.

Donald Trump never flirted with me. He'd laugh and tell Jeffrey, you've got the life. I never said that to her. When you say he didn't partake in any sex with us, who is us girls? How do you know who Donald Trump had sex with? She says, I didn't physically see him have sex with us who is us girls how do you know who donald trump had sex with she says i didn't physically see him have sex with any of the girls so i can't say who he had sex with his whole life or not i just know it wasn't with me when i was with the other girls it looks like while trump is mentioned they do mention like going to the casino one of the more fascinating

things is apparently someone says we tried to go to trump's casino in atlantic city but virginia couldn't get in she was underage trump's establishment was like you're too young that's this is really interesting now i'm not good i'm not trying to play games where we're just here to attack democrats and defend donald trump okay we need a full accounting of these court documents and the accusations secondly Secondly, innocent until proven guilty. Alan Dershowitz, of course, accused of raping a minor in this. And that may or may not be true. He should be he should be investigated now.

And there should be a legitimate investigation. But I say we got to be careful about this. I'm inclined to say I believe there's a morsel of truth here. Right. Right off the bat. My inclination is to believe the victims. But I still don't think we should just jump off the boat and be like believe there's a morsel of truth here, right? Right off the bat, my inclination is to believe the victims. But I still don't think we should just jump off the boat and be like, it's a fact. It's proven.

We need real criminal investigations and accountability on this. This document is from a defamation lawsuit. In a defamation lawsuit, you can say anything you want. It doesn't make it true. Yeah, I mean, look, this the the troubling part here is this is so pervasive at the highest levels of power so just investigating it's going to be difficult in itself and as just watching it unfold and since this has started it's actually made me feel kind of small i feel like i have no effect whatsoever on anything when i see this kind of stuff happening

and my voice doesn't matter and my voice doesn't matter. Especially when you talk to your microphone. Let's pretend I'm silent. Here, let's read more real quick. It says, what is the basis for your statement that Donald Trump is a good friend of Jeffrey's? Answer. Jeffrey told me that Trump is a good friend of his. Who in the world at the time would not say and try and brag about Donald Trump? It's name dropping.

She said, the question is have you ever observed them together answer no not that i actually can actually remember i mean not not off top not off the top of my head when did trump flirt with you he didn't that's what that was inaccurate did you ever see donald trump at jeffrey's home not that i can remember on his island no not that i can remember in new mexico no not that i can remember in new york not that i can remember all right if you could turn to the second page etc etc so far like right when you open up this court document i mean this is just one this is just one i'm not saying all of them and you search trump instantly it's like nah he wasn't there he didn't flirt with me that wasn't true i couldn't

get into casino i was underage wow that's that's interesting yeah i mean look if it comes out like you said that anything at all uh you know, implicates Trump. That's why I think they're going to twist the Mar-a-Lago thing. Like, I'm only looking at one document, too. And again, there's there are a lot that have come out. But the idea that potentially Ghislaine Maxwell went to Mar-a-Lago to recruit underage girls who had jobs there. I mean, it doesn't matter if they were working legally, you know, as whatever at Mar-a-Lago, working the spa, doing whatever, waitressing jobs. But it would be interesting to see the media, and I believe this is what will happen,

is like, oh, well, then why did Trump let her go there if he knew she was recruiting women? Because that was her role in Epstein's organization. And it's going to be this endless reaching for straws, anything to tie the narrative together the way they want it to. And what's sad is that ultimately there are young women who were victimized by this person

and it doesn't matter because they weren't victimized by someone they're never prosecuted yeah like that the issue never actually matters it's the same reaction or it will be the same reaction to this kind of stuff in regard to trump as it was to like uh kavanaugh when he was uh you know when he was when he was before he was confirmed falsely accused yeah he was falsely accused and they they drummed up you know produced people that will lie under oath nothing ever happens to them you know for for lying but you know it it it serves a purpose which is only to retain power for the people that are on the either the left or the people in the

establishment yeah i just really hope my that this wakes up just a few people you know what i mean if some people can follow this and they can change just slightly because of this to be a little bit less trusting of the establishment to be a little less bias i think that's an achievement in itself i think that would be one positive of this you know situation but again i mean i've just seen it unfold since the beginning i've seen the the incredible defense of people who are clearly not worth defending and i don't and it's not just this it's been continual there's been this kind of you know we talked about psychogenic epidemics in my documentary in these social experiments there there's a certain degree of mass hysteria that takes place over issues now

where people can literally justify or defend anything here's the setup phil mentions they can get anybody to lie under oath form we saw those women in the kavanaugh case claim that they were gangbang parties where they were men were lining up outside of rooms to rape women total fabrication out of nothing and we know that christine blasey ford her stories were nuts she was like i'm scared to fly did you fly here yes did you fly on vacation yes are we talking about what do you think happens we get to an october surprise a woman comes out and says she was a victim of jeffrey epstein donald trump did it it's all it takes that's all it takes especially nowadays with the media the way it's going to run with it and it's going to become the biggest i just think it'll be less credible than i mean

with kavanaugh you saw a huge division and people who believed it no matter what definitely whoever was accusing kavanaugh was was right whereas there were a lot of people who would challenge it there were a lot of people who said this is not legitimate this case is coming out of nowhere i stand by kavanaugh whatever else he ultimately was uh approved for the supreme court and i think it's similar with trump right like trump already had to face some weird charge of you know sexual battery or whatever in a story in which there's no proof that he even had ever had contact with this woman they've tried to convict him on these grounds before both in the court of public opinion with the like grab him by whatever quote and in actual court and it does

not change the fact that his supporters don't believe it it's a difficult position i mean it could that could be the case with the october surprise that you know donald trump's on the list and we have credible evidence that it was him but i ultimately think that they have made him such a villainized man that his supporters will fall in line behind him and he's accused of so much we sort of hit our threshold you don't really believe that this wealthy famous guy who's already been accused of this before nobody nobody knew believes because the people that are the people that were inclined to to believe it they were already going to believe it no matter what you said negatively about trump but there's no one else to win over i mean doesn't that point to such a such a big issue at this

point that what you're pretty much saying is that regardless of evidence, regardless of what comes forward, people have made up their minds about Trump. Yeah, for sure. So it doesn't matter if he is guilty, if he's not guilty, if evidence comes out, if it doesn't come out to people who support him. Right. And we're in a position where we can't even trust what comes out anymore anyway. I mean, what I want to know is if Biden's on the list. That's my actual question because if Bill Clinton is and with Biden and we have a bunch of other Democratic supporters, again, people already have their political bias and I hate to feed into that. But the real question is, is the October surprise going to be that Joe Biden had contact with

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Rapstein. In my opinion. I still don't think that it's as much about Trump as it is about, you know, I think Trump is a symptom of everything. I think if it wasn't Trump, it would be someone else, you know, that would be getting the negative attention. So, you know, I still kind of stick to that opinion. What is it about people in power doing sick things like this?

What is what is the weird like when does that happen? That insanity that takes over your mind? No, no, no. It's actually really simple. If you are an abuser and like you're looking for a way to get away with it you need power to protect yourself when you commit crimes that makes sense that like dc is the highest density of sociopaths people who want power they're gonna go to dc that's the place to get it people want to break long commit crimes you got stupid criminals who run into a walmart and snatch

things around the door you got smart criminals who get elected to Congress and then insider trade. Yeah, growing up, I just thought that this was such an obscure, rare thing to actually happen. And as I've gotten older, I've sadly had to accept the fact that it's far more pervasive. What, that like sexual deviancy or people abusing their position of power? No, child rape. Yeah, it's correct. I mean, I think this is like the weird thing, which is that we know there are children trafficked all over the world. But for some reason, we don't think it happens here in the US.

We think it happens somewhere else. But ultimately, people need us either go somewhere else or it has to happen on our door. There's no way the numbers could bear up otherwise. Let's let's jump into this next one. We have this tweet from Mario Noffel. This is one of the more shocking. So I will just say this is not for the fact of heart and uh you know just to be mindful we'll try to keep the language somewhat delicate

for those who are listening with their families this is serious news stuff but um i hope you're prepared to to uh hear this alan dershowitz is accused of having forcing adult relations on a minor. An awful tweets. Epstein forced minor to have, let's just say, adult relations with Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz. I'm going to add, according to testimony from the document, this does not mean it's absolutely true. Jane Doe number three is a minor who was forced to have adult. Let's just call adult contact with people on behalf of Epstein. Here's the document reads.

One such powerful individual that Epstein forced then minor Jane Doe to have relations with was former Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, a close friend of Epstein's and welle No. 3 to have relations with Dershowitz on numerous occasions while she was a minor, not only in Florida, but also on private planes in New York, New Mexico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. In addition to being a participant in the abuse of Jane Doe No. 3 and other minors, Dershowitz was an eyewitness to the sexual abuse of many other minors by Epstein and several of Epstein's co-conspirators. Dershowitz would later play a significant role in negotiating the NPA on behalf of Epstein on Epstein's behalf indeed Dershowitz helped negotiate an agreement that provided immunity from federal prosecution in the southern district of Florida not only to Epstein but also to any potential co-conspirators of Epstein NPA at five it says thus Dershowitz helped negotiate an agreement with a provision that provided protection for himself against criminal prosecution in Florida for abusing Jane Doe number three because this broad immunity would have been controversial if disclosed dershowitz along with other members of epstein's defense team and the government

tried to keep the immunity provision secret from all of epstein's victims and the general public even though such secrecy violated the crime victims rights act yo. There's a lot of documents that got released. This is absolutely shocking to see. Now, we just had this story today from the New York Post. Alan Dershowitz says, quote, a lot of people hung out with Epstein

claims document dump will exonerate him. Yeah, well, that did not go as planned for him. My question then would be for mario knoffel which what which document is he citing on this one so i i would like i think i want to i want to make sure we can get that one pulled up properly because i want to i want to i'm i try to be very very careful here right uh i i i don't see mario knoffel is just making something up posting something like this this is a document he clearly you know uh found screen grab but he's got it you got to post the sources on this one man

because this is a very very very serious accusation against dirgewitz it's also specific it's detailed so i think it's hard to uh to imagine what else will come out but i feel like it's just gonna get worse and worse worse like is this the first one that we found why is it not been released why do you mean what do you mean it's just going to get worse and worse and worse. Like, is this the first one that we found? Why is it not been released? Why do you mean, what do you mean? It's hard to imagine. Cause I like,

do you want your brain to be able to imagine the worst things that could happen to people? Like, well, I mean, that's a special talent. I just hope I don't have, it's one thing.

If you can imagine terrible tortures, I don't want to know. It's one thing to say, like, I don't want to imagine it fine. Like I that's fine, but I don't understand why, why it's hard to imagine these, these people, there's not really a limit to imagine it fine. That's fine, but I don't understand why it's hard to imagine.

These people, there's not really a limit to the deviance. I don't think that there's... Whatever the grossest things you can come up with, maybe they're not... Maybe they wouldn't perform snuff films, but everything else... Honestly, that would not surprise me.

I wouldn't be completely shocked either. But it's like to think that there's any limit to these people. No, there's no limit. They're literally the most powerful people in the world. There's no limit to what they'll do. What I don't understand is how, like, okay, so you become a politician. You get a position of power. What is the weird segue that you're like, oh, there's this guy Epstein.

He hooks you up with little, like, what is the the weird segue that you're like oh there's this guy epstein you know he hooks you up with little like what is like who's gonna even try and have that conversation you know what the rumor is about epstein right that he's that he was some kind of asset for the for intelligence uh for the for cia possibly for massad but the rumor was that he would put people in positions of power in compromising positions and get uh information on him so that way he could influence them on behalf of you know on behalf of government so essentially what he does is he just you know is offering whatever you want so like someone like so that he can hold it against yeah i have a feeling donald trump like wants like wants someone to like he wants to call someone mommy because he's like in charge all the time and he's like a power guy so but that's why he's not after that's why it seemed he or that's my imagination

because stormy daniels wasn't young when he was alleged to have hooked up with her she was she would have been considered like a a cougar age so also maybe he's just not a pedophile you know that's that's literally the most disturbing which is that like yes there are some of these girls who are like 17 right so you get like creepy arguments that they're you know they look older or whatever else no no it's all gross and weird i think with trump the fact that we regularly see in this that he was like haha i'm not taking part in this shows a level of moral fortitude that obviously. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Obviously people that reach this level. No, I think so.

I think maybe not entirely. I'm not saying he's perfect, but in this case, you're asking, how do people stumble into this? And I think there's a level where people have no values and that they think ultimately they deserve to do whatever they want. I think you're giving him too much credit. I think that this just happens to not be his particular flavor of deviant sure that's fine but that doesn't mean that he's a good dude who wouldn't do something gross and deviant the fact that the establishment went after him the way they did when he ran for president implies to me that he wouldn't be a part of this weird yeah so just we got the new we got the news team

currently working on it it looks like what marvinel posted is from exhibit c and uh yeah it says what it says so um i'm not exactly sure this is it says filed 010324 page one it's a cvra joinder motion uh it looks like the this document is related to jane doe one and jane doe two v the united states in which they make reference to alan dershowhowitz and the abuse of these minors. It may be that this actual court filing was used as evidence in the Giuffre case. Meaning, Virginia Giuffre says, like, their lawyers are like, look at these documents that were previously in court of law. There's a lot. There's a lot here.

A lot of stuff to go through yeah i mean uh in uh looks like exhibit five there's uh one witness who says she was uh the question and what did you understand her story to be did she tell you i don't know what's referring to it could be answer that she was recruited to give massages sexual massages and have sex with people such as dershowitz and andrew but i know i knew none of that at the time that's prince andrew yo holy crap dude um what worries me about all this stuff coming out is that you know you back a rabbit cute little thing huh yeah real cute little thing you see it outside it runs away but you back a rabbit, cute little thing, huh? Yeah, real cute little thing. You see it outside, it runs away.

But you back it into a corner, that thing will bite you. These people ain't rabbits. These are psychotic wolves. That's unfair. These are demons. Yeah, they're demons. These are deranged, psychotic individuals, and they are backed into a corner. So when you see this, let me show you this.

Mario Noffel's tweet. He posts this, he posts this, an additional, I believe this from Exhibit C, and it says, Jane No. 3 was forced to have sexual relations with this prince when she was a minor in three separate geographical locations, London, New York, and an Epstein's private island.

Wow. It goes on to say, another person in Epstein's private island. Wow. It goes on to say, Another person in Epstein's inner circle of friends is Jean-Luc Brunel. Epstein sexually trafficked Jano No. 3 to Jean-Luc Brunel many times. Brunel was another one of Epstein's closest friends and a regular traveling companion. From CNN, February 21st, 2022, French modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel found dead in prison cell i wonder what that means found alone and hanged with bed sheets in his jail cell at the sante

prison in the french capital around 1 30 a.m shot in the back of his head you do not say you gotta be kidding me suicide with bullet to the back of the head. There is that story of that journalist. Remember that one? What's his name? He was investigating the CIA. Oh, that they said got robbed and killed? No, no, no, no. They said he killed himself,

but he had two gunshots to the head. Yes, yeah. And sometimes he survived. He's just committed. There's a termination over there. There is a quote. The Pulitzer Prize is not the highest award in journalism being assassinated by the cia is yeah that's crazy but people say that i mean

well i mean if that were i honestly think if that were actually true then um you know assange would be dead we're dealing with too much crazy ass shit so we'll just go right into it and explain exactly what's going on um look i understand when you're talking about people who are accused of raping children uh a lot of people are really upset and may want to see them dead but uh the rules on youtube and i gotta be honest like i'm not even entirely sure that um rumble would accept some language. There's a line, man. I'll just keep it simple.

We've had numerous instances where people have come on this show and expressed let's just say I don't know, whatever you want to call it that certain people should be dead. And the issue there is a combination of factors. One, the rules of the platform but every single platform has these rules about calls to violence.

I'm pretty sure Rumble does, too. Pretty sure if we were on Rumble and someone said these people should be dead and there's not going to be justice, they need to be killed. Like then Rumble would even take you down. That being said, I understand why people are saying that about pedophiles. But I'm going to stress this point. Just because some lady went to a courtroom and claimed someone raped her doesn't mean it's true. And so these documents are damning probable cause that warrant an investigation. Dershowitz should be investigated.

They need to find hard evidence. And if in a court of law he's proven to be guilty of raping minors, then we figure out after that how we deal with this stuff. And pedophiles are worse than murderers. And I'll tell you why pedophiles are worse than murderers. You get somebody who commits a murder and you say they should be sentenced to death because murder, it's egregious violence, etc. Okay, fine. Totally get it.

I'm not for the death penalty, but I certainly understand the anger people feel when it comes to, you know, a guy like raping and torturing people and killing them. Now we're talking about pedophiles and they're worse. They're worse. So if there's any group of people that deserves a death penalty more than any other else, pedophiles deserve the death penalty more than murderers. Why? Because pedophilia, the targeting and sex trafficking of children destroys the basis of humanity. You kill a guy who's selling beers at a restaurant, that's evil. It's horrible. You took someone's life. That's bad. And that can affect what that guy can do. So murder is damaging to human civilization. You're sex trafficking children. You are shattering the minds of the next generation

and creating a plagued and diseased generation of people, which will result in ramifications that could destroy humanity for for for millennia for generations so that being said we cannot on youtube advocate for people being killed murdered or otherwise and so we're going to bring this one to timcast.com where we can talk about uh these things a bit more but i will stress i don't think any platform anywhere would tolerate advocacy for killing people without charge or trial. Even the death penalty gets iffy. And the other reason outside of any kind of moral view is liability. This means financial transaction services. It means data centers. It means web hosts. It means advertisers. They're going to be like,

we're not banning you for censorship. We're banning you because you did something illegal in advocating for murder. And it resulted in liability, criminal liability, civil liability, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So normally we don't, I don't bring up these issues when it comes to why an episode got taken down, considering it's the Epstein stuff. And everyone's like, oh shit, you know, we'll talk about it. But anyway, we're back and we'll carry out this show in the members only portion.

And I don't know. How are you guys doing? Well, you can go ahead on this one. I'm, I'm, I'm doing good. I had a good,

good week. Do you guys want to talk about bomb threats? Cause this is what I want to talk about. Yeah. You want, what about bomb threats? I, I, I want to talk about. Yeah. What about bomb threats? Civil War. Well, this is the thing.

Thank you for coming and watching, Timcast. We'll see you all next time. No, it's weird. I saw this video a couple days ago where this girl's like, it's very schizophrenic to be planning a wedding when you know the world's about to end. Like, it may not be, you know, coming of Jesus, but it's Civil War, it's strife it's politics but

should i wear my hair up or down and what should my color pal be and i think there is a little bit of that anxiety right now like so today right before we got on the show i was covering the story and i had opened it maybe an hour before and said you know three state capitals evacuated because of bomb threats today on january 3rd and then i went back to an hour later and it was six and then when i was doing my own research, it was actually eight. And so it's this very strange thing. I couldn't confirm for all of them,

but the majority of them received some kind of email bomb threat hoax to a state employee and they were evacuated and no explosives were found. So effectively eight different state capitals got swatted today. Like it's not exactly a swatting, but it's right on that level. Things like that. Like, it's not exactly a swatting, but it's right on that level.

Things like that. Very strange. Things like that and swatting definitely should be treated as attempts at at least injuring someone. Should be treated like assault while you're assaulting. Libby reached out to me and sent me this link from CNN. Virginia Giuffre drops allegations against Alan Dershowitz saying she may have made a mistake. What does that even mean, though? How do you make a mistake i call bullshit yeah sorry uh i don't buy it a woman who was uh it was so specific was right he was like the the documents will

exonerate me because as soon as they come out she'll retract her statement but that state yeah the statements were very specific it's not like like I just casually mentioned someone's name. There were specific allegations there that came out. The 3D chess today is crazy. The woman just remembered, oh no, he had a foreskin. Yeah, she may have made a mistake. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer.

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I'm sorry, like... I don't buy it. You don't buy that she may have made a mistake? Yeah, it sounds more like Dershowitz has got powerful legal capabilities and she was just like,

I can't win this fight I'll win the fight I can win how does she prove Dershowitz was actually there she would get obliterated in a defamation trial for saying those things so their accusations fine Dershowitz should be investigated

the whole thing should lead to you know it shouldn't be civil. It should be criminal. All the people that are accused should be investigated by the respective jurisdictions. You know, and it shouldn't be. There shouldn't be questions about civil cases. How do you even investigate this?

This is the hard thing with the criminal cases, especially when it's allegations. I mean, there's no physical evidence. That would be the thing you need most above all else. really it's all going to be circumstantial it's where you would like there to be a good answer but in this case there's really not with these decades old claims no yeah which is uh you know a common issue with rape in general but in this case especially when you're dealing with super powerful people yep it's even more difficult so so i mean everyone that's that is you know is is is uh what's the word i'm looking for is is mentioned or whatever in this like it's bad for their you know their their brand or whatever but i still don't think that there's going to be anything

significant significant that's going to come because there's kind of nothing that they can do i mean really other than the election and potentially you know harming someone who might hear a name and they don't like that person as much now there's there's not a ton of fallout i mean again i go back to the larry nasser thing right like ultimately the the larry nasser case made people aware of how widespread that kind of violence could be especially in any organization that that that carries on like it's trustworthy and i think in some ways that that that carries on like it's trustworthy and i think in some ways that's sort of what we see with these kind of elite social circles that jeffrey epstein were in people believe that ultimately they couldn't get caught and even

though there may not be a legal fallout your name could surface eventually uh is that enough to convince the american people not to trust institutions or you know what the media says about it? It probably won't be for everyone, but it may be for some people. It's just one more, you know, one more grain of sand in the pile of reasons to not trust the establishment. And agitation, like I'm saying with the state capital bombings or bomb threats, like there is just going to be this culture for the rest of the year of what is about to fall apart. People feel really anxious and we're starting to feel it on all levels of society right now. Sorry, go ahead.

I'm wondering how Virginia Giuffre knew who Dershowitz was. When she accused Prince Andrew and Dershowitz and then later she sues Prince Andrew and reaches a settlement with him. And then says, oh, I think I was wrong about Dershowitz. That's kind of a weird, like he's a weird person to accuse and be wrong. It's an unusual name. It's a very random person to accuse. Yeah. And then also what was the accusation based on?

She named him specifically? Like she came out and said Alan Dershowitz specifically? Or did they show pictures? Like what was the event of things that took place for that accusation to happen it was a criminal trial and so they just asked her who and she said alan dershowitz yeah how is that a prince andrew yeah that cannot be a mistake you can't mistake a name like that you had sex with a guy multiple times i mean look i guess the issue is she banged some guy who kind of looked like him that's the only

defense that you could arguably make yeah she was told the guy well i mean i'll tell you this what if uh there's a guy like epstein and he brings in some random crackpot and says i want you to meet my friend and then you know john smith then later on when this victim's like actually that's a very clever thing for a trafficker to do. To lie about the names of the individuals that the girls are actually being trafficked to so that they can't actually identify their abusers. Now, I'm not saying

that's the case here because, you know, Prince Andrew's in pictures with her. And, you know, we get that. And like when they're in the court of law, I've seen enough law and order SVU to know, they go, and can you identify this person? Is he in this room? And they like, point to to the person i'm not going to point at phil that's horrible but you're just across the table from me like they are asked to visually identify the person typically too and so i assume i looked at one picture of alan dershowitz he's kind of

unique looking i mean maybe that's how she was able to say maybe it wasn't the name she just identified him visually i don't know that was my, is if did she identify based on a photo or did she name him? Yeah. She named him. Yeah. Several times. Very specific. And then later said, no, I take it back.

I may have been wrong. When did she actually make the statement? Do anyone know? I think it was 2015. Okay. Yeah. And then in 2022, November 8th, CNN reports she recanted drops allegations against Alan Dershowitz. I don't know, man.

How much do you think this actually hurts Dershowitz? A lot. Yeah? I hope so. Because there are people who have no idea who he is, and this will be the only thing they link his name to. You know what I mean? Like, if he didn't do anything, then he is being attached to something that's pretty horrific how much does that mean real world consequences though because it's one thing to to have your you know it's one

thing to be like okay well his brand is affiliated with this blah blah but the circles that he runs in he's not dealing with you know joe on the street yeah he's running in circles of the same people that have been the same people that have. Hold on. The same people that have been accused. So if they're all if all they've all been accused or are suspect, does it really have a tangible effect for him? Because he's already around these people and they're going to be like, well, he's one of us anyway. If he's 100 percent, those are the only people he hangs out with.

Maybe it doesn't matter. But I mean, look at Prince Andrew. He didn't face any legal consequences, really. He should be spending jail time, probably. But instead, they just moved him to the back of the royal family. But that was because he embarrassed the royal family. Sure, but there are consequences to the actions. It's the same thing.

I mean, Alan Dershowitz himself, if this may or may not be true, whatever the effect is, I don't want to talk as if I know for sure what happened. But he has been accused of this, and so, therefore so therefore anyone affiliated him is now tarred with this brush so like if he has children if he has a wife there are other people who face the follow there are not necessarily legal consequences but i think the allegations are serious enough i think the only thing that i think the only cost that he's going to pay is embarrassment maybe there's personal cost like maybe his wife or if he's married or whatever i don't know what his situation is but i think the only thing that he or anyone else is actually going to have to deal with is embarrassment i don't i don't think there'll be legal consequences

yeah i think there's social i i i disagree you think what do you think they're not even going to be embarrassed there's a reason why we moved to the uncensored show and there's a reason why we've had to do it before and it's because we're at the point where in casual conversations people are saying how they really feel well i i agree that the average person feels like that but i don't think that they i think that there's there's there's significant distance between the average person and people that run in those circles and look man there's that video where the the dad whose kid was raped by that pedophile yeah that's a powerful is that the

phone booth and then he just pulls out a gun and blows that guy's fucking brains out and people online cheer for it now look i don't know the full details or whatever i am not a supporter of vigilante vigilantism because there was uh there there's a video you can watch where this just happened a few weeks ago some dude kicks a doran with a gun and starts screaming where is he where is so-and-so and the person who lives there is like who the fuck are you saw this one yeah like who the fuck are you talking about what the fuck nobody hears that by that name and the guy was wrong the problem i'm sorry i'm sorry yeah it's like i'll pay for everything i'll pay for a lot of money there is a a really high likelihood that when

you start tolerating that stuff everyone's cheering for this guy blowing out of pedo's brains because in their mind the simple the simple version of the story is true yeah this guy's a pedophile raped this guy's son so he killed him except the reality of the story is true yeah this guy's a pedophile raped this guy's son so he killed him except the reality of the world is substantially more complicated a guy who was accused of doing it probably did we get that but we do not want to create a scenario where brett kavanaugh is accused of gang raping women at parties at yale so a dude shows up by his house with a with a backpack full of murder and torture gear and then breaks into his house and and tortures and murders brett kavanaugh hey that almost happened so this is this

is when you say you know that dershowitz won't be held accountable whatever accountability is not the word i'm looking for i'm i'm terrified that we're we're dangerously close to the point where someone just says fuck it and then the next thing we're going to hear is Dershowitz is dead. Yeah. And that wouldn't be something I would be calling for, to be honest with you. What I meant, you know, anyway, we don't have to go back over that. There's a story with, you know, Cain Velasquez is, he's an MMA fighter. His daughter was molested like 27 times by a guy went to court the guy got out of court

and he ended up chasing the guy down and shooting at him on the street now like i've met cain velasquez uh he was a really wonderful guy and he ended up shooting the guy's father accidentally the guy who was driving his son out of the courtroom and cain velasquez till today has a tremendous amount of support a lot of the mma communities like let him out don't convict him uh because on some visceral level we want people like that to pay for their crimes and when they're let out of court or when they get away with it or in these situations here we have a visceral response that there was as you said there was something stolen from humanity when that happened, and we have to make it right.

So the problem is, I don't know about this case, but if someone comes to me and says a guy was brought to court and the court could not prove his guilt, so the guy chased him down and shot at him, I'm like, yeah, the bad guy's the guy who chased him down and shot at him. Yeah, he was let out on a technicality. I don't remember what it was, but he was guilty. They knew for a fact he was guilty. There was no confusion over the guy's guilt. But again, I just think it's one of those, from a human level, like I said, it's something I struggle with. I try and be a really tolerant guy.

I try and be an understanding guy. I try and find common ground with people on every issue. And then I have breaking points where I'm like, I just can't tolerate this. I can't sit by and feel helpless on these issues again not calling for anything but i'm just saying on a human level it's hard to see that happen and feel helpless about it so what what what drives me insane is calendar gate and i'm so glad we were not here for this but you have these people who

are so passionate about killing demons and they want to see pedophiles die there's a solution there and it's muster all of that rage and passion you have towards organizing the motherfucking left is pulling trump off the ballot left and right and the right is on twitter being like the calendar has too many ankles in it okay i get it you don't like riley gaines laying there in a bikini but like they called josie demonic mike cernovich made the point the rights complain about a calendar the left is pulling trump off the ballot then you get people who are so passionate they're like somebody should shoot these motherfuckers or some crazy shit like that and i'm like all that energy should

be in winning the seats of power and the institutions but i gotta tell you you know it reminds me of like the trope in in like a like a boxing movie or whatever where the the guy you know the good guy gets the bad guy angry and the anger and the bad guy gets so angry they start swinging blindly and gets real tired real quick and misses everything and then the crafty good guy just goes with one punch that's what the left is doing they're roping up the right and the anti-establishment folks into a passionate frenzy so they do stupid shit then they do clever shit behind the scenes they pull trump's name off the ballot in maine because fuck you what are you going to do about it you have no seats of power

that's not even clever that's in your face abuse that's what i don't understand anymore but it's but it's gotten to that point because it's been allowed the fact that because they own the institution yeah because all those all the laws that were changed leading up to the election of 2020 all those laws that were changed they were all changed there were there was so many changed illegally or under dubious, dubious circumstances. And nothing was done about it because Republicans don't do things about it. Yeah. Why? Why are hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants coming through the southern border right now? The right confronts it head on and says, oh, my God, look at all these immigrants. The Democrats are going, OK, so in 10 years, we're going to have 17 more congressional seats. Let's start lining up

who's going to run for those office. I got a prominent high school senior. He'll be a great member of Congress when he's 34. Yep. That's what they're doing. And the right's going, we better go down to that border and complain about it. And the Democrats are already like, we got a 10 year plan on this one. I mean, to be fair, there were tons of Republican. There are Republicans who've been talking about this for a long time. It just wasn't an acceptable issue. Democrats attacked them too hard. I think that's one of the issues

with the right. If they're told, that's not a nice thing to say, they're like, oh, well, I will stop talking about it. The Republicans have been playing by the rules that the Democrats set

for at least 20 years. Yes. At least 20 years. We've been losing education. We've been losing media. We've been losing culture. And so it's no surprise that 30 years later, we're sitting here and going, oh my God, years we've been losing education we've been losing media we've been losing culture and so it's no surprise that 30 years later we're sitting here and going oh my god how did it get so bad

it got so bad over 30 years of us sitting by and doing nothing on the defensive on the defensive and again tolerant yeah we're always looking to compromise what's the thing we can give you we're talking about this earlier what's the what's the little thing we can agree on but you're not really looking to agree with me you're looking to take everything and the second you get that one thing you're just going to the next and the next so surge mentioned this earlier was talking about something that i that i mentioned which is the fact that the left and the right in the united states have different fundamental philosophies if you're a liberal you are assuming that the people that you are engaging with are liberals as well because you're assuming you're going to assume that they're going to be honest that they're going to come looking

to collaborate to produce ideas to produce results and stuff and the left is not going to do that one bit they're going to use that against you so automatically if you are a liberal and i mean an actual classical liberal what democrats used to be in the U.S. If you're a liberal, you are entering an engagement with someone that is not a liberal, someone that's an authoritarian, which tends to be, which is what the far left is. You are entering that engagement at a deficit. You are going to. You're at a huge disadvantage. You're at a huge disadvantage because you are going in and you are going to treat them like they're going to be honest and they are going to treat you like you are a moron. Because you are.

Because you're going in expecting them to behave like liberals. You can only be a liberal with other liberals. You cannot be a liberal with authoritarians. And no matter how much you want to talk about giving, it's, oh, well, you have to be a liberal or you're giving up your values, blah, blah, blah. You don't get the choice. I'm going read this this uh we got a member chat uh jen jalen horn says the left play to win tim always complains the system is rigged then says follow the system losing mentality no i'm sorry your mentality is why you lose i'll give you an example uh a bunch of journalists got arrested on january 20th 2017 when antifa was rioting well the journalists got arrested on January 20th, 2017, when Antifa was rioting. Well,

journalists got these journalists got mad at the police for wrongly detaining them. So they decided they would do something about it by screaming and yelling at those cops. Justice, finally, someone standing up to these police officers. That's great. They ended up getting detained for like 12 hours and then went to jail for the weekend. I stood in the corner, kept my mouth shut, understood the position of power I was in call asked for a supervisor informed him i was press he told me sorry too bad and then eventually when the corporate press called and said their journalist was detained he walked over and said who's the journalist and i waved my little hand and he was like you got your press card and i was like yes sir i do he's like come on out this is this is the remarkable

thing about i remember occupy wall street the activists like, we got to go march to the street and scream. And I was like, do you think that when it came to assassinating the feudal lords of Japan, the Japanese were like, I know, let's get a bunch of dudes with swords to walk right up to the front of the building and then announce their presence and then try to kill the emperor that way. Famously, they didn't. They would dress like commoners, sneak in with the team maidens walk up to the emperor and stab him in the throat and then run away george washington killed the hessians in their sleep on friggin christmas but on christmas he was cutting throats in the in in

the winter at night a classic american i got a question though i have i have an honest question for you this is something again i struggle with if you knew that there was a force in the country that sole purpose was to take advantage of our tolerance of our laws of our system and to abuse it and to inevitably destroy it overtake it and never let us have those freedoms again and that the only way to stop it was to be intolerant would you not well yeah i don't disagree with that okay so that so i'm saying before us is a great wall and you've got people saying you know i'm sitting here saying we have to figure out the cracks in the crevices of the wall to gain a position where we can easily maneuver through it. And we understand how the wall operates in keeping us out.

And there are people saying, no, we should run full speed, start punching it. Like, bro, you can't fucking punch down a wall. Yeah, that's where we lose this right now. People are like, Tim, the left gets violent all the time. Why are you saying the right shouldn't get violent yo they fucking control the institutions bro when they occupy cities the media still says the right is the real terror threat motherfucker people in ches were shooting and killing people we do not have enough institutional control just yet that's why i'm like you have to build and win culture. You have to gain control of the conversation. The reason why what Christopher Ruffo is doing is so important is because he is controlling

the narrative in the media cycle. I've long made this point. The New York Times takes a shit on the floor and every conservative goes, ladies and gentlemen, look at the shit. Who gives a fuck about the New York Times? We need to set the cycle ourselves. Christopher Ruffo comes out and says, Claudine Gay is a plagiarist.

And then eventually shatters through that wall that I talked about. And all of a sudden, every major outlet is forced to talk about it. All of a sudden, the New York Times lost the ability to control the narrative. That is how we are winning. And it's why we have been winning so much over the past year. It's why we may, it's why we have been winning so much over the past year. It's why we may. It's why the youth vote has swung towards Trump in more than one poll in a shot. Like the idea that Republicans have 18 to 34 year olds.

Fuck me. I would never believe that. Me neither. And now we've seen more than one. I think two or three showing that's the case. Why? We are winning the narrative war. The modern fifth generational warfare is not going to be won by being like we should go out in the street and punch some guy in the face or shoot somebody

that is not how you win seats of power the idea that you could enter a building and then declare yourself the president is some 1600s bullshit you need to control the the world view of as many people as possible the woke have been extremely effective at terrifying people into shutting the fuck up recently however thanks to the likes of people like dave chappelle regular people feel like they're now safe to call out woke bullshit and what are we seeing claudian gay was finally forced to resign they they tried to keep her with every ounce of their strength and they could not do it because we owned the narrative and now the ap is like a new weapon against academics plagiarism and i'm like oh boy as their ship starts sinking they sink even faster look at what it did

but look at what it took it took her publicly going up and being unwilling to flat out say that genocide against jews is wrong and then it took 50 cases of plagiarism yeah that just that just speaks to the that just speaks to the the the amount of influence that the left has and it it gives us a great perspective of the size of the job that we have in front of us and and it's it's okay to know what you're getting into and that's what we're getting into you're literally going against the entire establishment right this though all the dei stuff that's all throughout the entire society it's in hr departments in every large major company in the united states in the medical system in the western world it's in the you're

right it's in the medical system the a the ama just had a put out a thing talking about in dei in medicine that will lead to dead people that 100 dead bodies yeah that will lead to that will lead to do harm first that and it'll be because of because they're like well we can't give the white guy the thing we have to give it to the brown guy. Not only that, but there's certain medications that only work on men or only work on women. Certain diseases. And it's going to be real, real fucked up when there is a trans person and the doctor's like, I need to perform a life-saving medical procedure on this person.

And they get the sex wrong. Yeah. Because they're lied to or tricked or there's been surgeries and other things. And then they can't effectively treat the individual or the person just can't bring themselves to tell the doctor that they're a woman or a man because it messes with their psychology and they've been conditioned to think that it's okay to just say that they're similarly to claudian gay i mean the plagiarism was always there someone just had to point it out right and it opened the door to criticism when she said this one thing. It's the same thing with these life-saving procedures that you have to identify your gender for. Eventually,

these really false narratives will fall apart. It's just up to, you know, the opposite side of the coin to continue to push for the obvious truth, which is that plagiarism is obviously bad in academia and saying certain things should have consequences. Right. I mean, yes, the professor, the president of MIT is still in place. Yeah. And there's a reason that that that is the case. Right. And it's far bigger than them. I mean, the issue in education is so deep at this point that it's not about removing just Claudine Gay. No, it's the whole it's the entire system. The DOE needs to be abolished. You need to get Paulo Freire's influence out of schools. It is an absolute pigsty in the schools.

I want to elaborate on my point with this story here from the Postmillennial. Biden sues Texas over new law making illegally crossing the border an arrestable offense. Let me tell you something, guys. Article 4, Section 4. Shout out to Josie, the redhead libertarian. Constitutional scholar. Article four, section four says the federal government must defend states from invasion from outside forces. And here we are witnessing 10,000 people per day storming, invading Texas.

It's an invasion. In fact, MSNBC was shocked by it. That's what really got me watching an MSNBC reporter be like, my God, I've never seen anything like this. The Biden administration is fighting against the Constitution and the law. Now, I ask you, how the how is it that the Biden administration is getting away with shitting on the Constitution, spitting on the laws of the country and the state. How is it possible? You ask, how do we win against a system that is corrupt? It's not about a system.

It is not about numbers in a book codification. It is about how many people agree with your worldview and how many don't. And right now we're at the point where Joe Biden has under his command men and women who are willing to do whatever he says, regardless of whether or not they are serving or opposing the United States. I see this story and I think it's really plain to see the DOJ has gone rogue. They are acting against the Constitution, which says they must defend against invasion they are facilitating invasion aiding and abetting outside forces to who harm this country that is sedition and so as we witness this we wonder how is it possible the federal government has people within it because it's not the entirety of the

fbi it's like the dc bureau there are fbi agents in other parts of the country that are fine how is it that these people are able to engage in sedition? There are no good men or women willing to stand up and say, you are rogue. You are criminals. Police officer at a local police department in New York, hypothetical, robs a bank, steals the cash and walks out. And he says, I'm a cop. What are you going to do about it?

Well, internal affairs shows up and says, we're here to arrest. And he goes, oh, heavens me. Oh no, I've been caught. Law enforcement got me. One day, the police chief himself for the entire NYPD decides to rob a bank. And he does. And he says, I'm the, I'm the chief of everybody. What are you going to do about it? And they go, oh, gee golly, what do we do? The FBI shows up. They arrest the they arrest the cop. There's a law enforcement agency above superseding in the Biden administration. There's nobody. They are the highest level and they are committing criminal acts against the people of this country every single day.

And you need only look to the people of Chicago to see that they are outright saying crimes are being committed against us. The victims are apparent. And many of these migrants are victims as well, being promised glory when they come here and then dying in the desert. Texas says this is illegal and we will stop it. Federal law says this is illegal and we must stop it. A Border Patrol agent turned away illegal immigrants before they entered the U.S. and he is now under investigation by the feds. A man who did the right thing and said, you got to turn around. You can't come in the country. And the feds are now going after him. So when I talk about how you win this, there's only one way

you win it. A federal law enforcement officer that is willing to engage in a seditious conspiracy against the government, against this country, working with the government, I suppose. I think it's fascinating that people ask me how civil war could happen. And I'll tell you this very, very simply. When federal law enforcement agents are engaged in a seditious conspiracy to violate the, they're violating the constitution and abetting an invasion at our southern border, you need to ask me how a civil war could happen? No, motherfuckers are outright destroying your country in plain view, and there's no law enforcement to stop them, except for Texas. Texas has declared it illegal. The Biden administration,

their move so far is to sue Texas. If good men and women in Texas, in law enforcement, say, we will enforce the law, get the fuck out of our way. We're done. All you need is for good men to do something. How do we win this? You need to wake these people up and let them know the crime is happening. And I assure you, good people will wake up. We are witnessing the decay and the decline of wokeness.

The Bud Light boycotts, target boycotts, Donald Trump's polling numbers through the roof. The American people are starting to wake up to the corruption that is the deep state, that is the Uniparty. What is ineffective? Homie shows up and starts opening fire on a bunch of federal agents that reinforces their view that they're the good guys. It puts them in the victim position and then regular people who don't know what's going on lend their power, support and voice to the criminals. What we need to happen is to control the lines of communication, set the news cycle, and we have to win those institutions. The termination, the resignation of these university professors, and it was real difficult to get rid of Claudine Gay, is one of the most powerful moves in winning the culture

war and putting an end to any potential violence and taking back the seats of power. It's not just that, though. The Daily Wire's efforts in producing content like Bentkey, inspiring young people. I told you the reason why pedophilia is so evil and why more evil than murder is because it destroys the future generations of humanity. What the Daily Wire is doing with Bentkey is reinforcing and strengthening the future generations of humanity. That is how we win.

Now, I know a lot of people say, Tim, you don't have kids. Hey, none of your business working on it. But that's the other issue. Let liberals or we stand. I shouldn't say let them, but we watch them as they sterilize their kids, abort their kids. All signs indicate that we are on a path towards victory. The answer is not going to be someone deciding to act outside of the system we are seeking to regain control of. It would be like the United States is this great galleon of the 17th century. And it was once captained by a great man named, I don't know, John Paul Jones. I guess, I don't know if he ever captained a galleon or anything like that.

But let's say we had a great captain. Well, you know what? Over a long period of time, some pieces of shit took control of that ship the answer is not to burn that ship to the ground and blow it up and sink it because it's doing bad shit it's to get in convince enough of those motherfuckers controlling that ship to mutiny against the corrupt and i wouldn't even call it a mutiny i would say stop supporting the criminal. A pirate has taken command of this ship and you know it's wrong. We are winning that fight and we are getting institutional pushback. Texas as an institution operating the law with the confidence of the people has declared what Biden is doing illegal

and Biden is trying to stop him. But it may be only a year from today that we are witnessing the preparations for the inauguration of Donald Trump in which he promises to mass deport through a simple and legal process that will be arduous, but simple. And the arrest of many people, I say no guarantees. Donald Trump may or may not do this. Who knows? But at least, at least this is the most effective plan and path forward, winning people over, winning hearts and minds and convincing your enemies or the default liberals to stand side by side with you instead of fighting against you. If you went to any world leader and said, good, sir, which would you rather have victory over

your enemies through bloodshed, violence and bombs or without a single bullet being fired? They'd say, of course, I would rather just win victory of enemies without a bullet being fired. My friends, I introduce you to information warfare, controlling the minds of the younger generation and figure out how to do that effectively is how you'll win the war without even raising a finger. And that's what they've been doing with big tech. I'll tell you this right now as an aside.

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That's right. If you want your music to count on their charts, you've got to suck the dick of big tech. Motherfuckers. Because they know the game they're playing. They want to make sure you go through their tunnel and you go through their paths and there's no other way. So we've got to fight back. They know what they're doing and they've got a long game, but the game is not to play into the hands of breaking the system. It's to figure out how you navigate past them and take control.

We have been doing that wonderfully. Think about how we can go on twitter and say retarded think about how we can say retarded again i've been saying it a lot in 2018 if you said men are not women you would have been banned now you can certainly say that so the victory is right before us and it may come to the point where many of you are correct violence is what happens but that is when that point comes it's when there's nothing left and all that can be convinced have been convinced and that's a sad a sad reality that we uh we don't want to see anybody claiming they want to see violence i i believe the majority of them have never experienced it that's why most of these veterans they tell you don't want it. They tell you man. You will not want to see what happens.

Because it's not going to be. It's not going to be some glorious battle. Between the good guys and the bad guys. It's going to be the Hunger Games. And as much as I think the movie was really poorly made. The final message in the Hunger Games prequel. Was the main character. Coriolanus Snow.

Who becomes the president. Quite literally saying the point of the Hunger Games. Is to remind people of what they really are. The whole world is the arena, and I'm the victor. That was the point. When society breaks down, when security breaks down, you're not in some righteous battle with good and evil. It's just The Hunger Games. So I got to tell you, man, when people say to me, oh, the the system you you can't work it's too rigged and and and they advocate for violence i'm like you will lose read some sun tzu you got to win the war before the war starts let me stress that again you have to win the war before it starts that is the art of war it's one of the tenets of the art of war what that means is if this is destined to

become violent you need to have already won it before it gets to that point. That means Donald Trump wins. Law enforcement comes in and maybe it does get violent. Maybe the far left rampages through the streets, burning things down. But the institutions are under our control. American values are being reaffirmed and reinstated. The Constitution now being defended and they lost before it even began. The fighting may happen, but we have to control as many institutions as possible before it does otherwise we lose anyway rant over thanks for listening to my ted talk so i agree fully i think there's something that that's really good that's

been happening which is that there's these fracture points which kind of surpass someone's political bias some of the things you brought up right so the claudian gay thing the anti-semitism issue there was in so many liberal jews faces that they started having to question their own identities you see it with the trans movement you see it with these little issues that keep popping up where the left is losing because they're so against objective reality and i think the more culture fights against those fracture points those are the winning issues if we really focus on those we have a chance of winning people over. And I think, especially with a lot of liberal Jews I've been talking to, there's a huge shift there.

Huge wake-up call with the support for Hamas. And this is what's causing universities to fracture. But the question is, how is it that so many people are willing to go along with such ridiculous bullshit that Twitter would ban you for saying men aren't women it's because the woke had people convinced they were the quote-unquote right side of history quote end quote sorry and they would they would chant it and there were regular people who believed it they said this is the dominant political force in this country well now that dominant political force is falling apart and for all the people can criticize d Chappelle for, someone criticized him because he supported George Floyd or whatever.

Yeah, a lot of people did. He comes out and he says, trans people make me feel like I'm playing a game. You know, he says, it's like watching Jim Carrey pretend to be Andy Kaufman. We know you're not Andy Kaufman. And that's how trans people make him feel. And he's able to say that. And the whole crowd of DC liberals, they laugh and they clap and they cheer then he makes fun of madison kothman for being handicapped he makes fun of lil nas x for being the gayest person oh he says like that kid's dream would be the gayest person imaginable ever

or whatever and he rags on all of them and what he's doing on that stage is telling you i'm the motherfucking right side of history i can joke joke about what I want. So can you tell these people to go shut up? And so what happens then is if it does come to blows fighting, the question is for the average person, who do they think will be the right side of history? Is it going to be the woke crackpots who are losing power, seeing massive boycotts, being mocked relentlessly? Maybe years ago fighting erupted they people would have been scared and thought these guys are the ones in control but nowadays now they're like who the fuck likes joe biden these people out of their minds trump was way better the polls say so much the financing says so much and the comedy says so much that we are now in the majority in

control of the narrative and the public. Christopher Rufo's campaign to force the plagiarism scandal into the mainstream media pissed them off so bad, but they couldn't stop it. And once we own the narrative, we may we may we may never even get to conflict with these people. so embarrassed and ostracized that many of them who are simply pretending to be woke for for internet points like sam harris pretending to be anti-trump may have no choice but to finally break down and say please welcome me back into society i don't know what happened to sam harris because i was i was actually i have a lot of respect for sam harris and some of the things he said seemed so counter to who he always was seemed like a rational guy well my question would be how much of the narrative shift

that you're experiencing, whether it's Sam Harris seeming to go off the rails or just people's willingness to say, I don't think these people who say they're the authority are preaching the right thing, had to do with COVID.

I feel like COVID, for all the negatives, all the terrible things that happened, it really had this effect where people stepped back and reevaluated a lot of what was going on in their lives. They were forced to. Sam was was pure tds sam was made insane because of donald trump he lost

his mind yeah he really really lost his mind because of donald trump um as for his takes on covid not his takes on coverage like generally people during covid stepped back from what they were doing and said i don't know if I like this. And I think it opened up the door to people saying like this, this central narrative that's controlled culture that I have been saying, well, I'll just comply with what they want. I don't want to hurt people's feelings. I don't want to be accused of all the isms and ists. You know what I'm saying? Like they then were suddenly like, this has gone too far.

Either I want to opt out or I want to challenge this. Yeah, I agree with that. That happened on a mass scale during COVID. I know a lot of people who just started re-evaluating their worldview during covid yeah um so that was one positive out of covid there was another thing that happened during covid which is a negative that they also learned who's compliant yeah and there was a massive they built their own little army during that time too of people who will do whatever they say in a weird way it was this test of who was going to fall in line who was not and it was interesting to see how many people were willing to do something about it you saw all this mass migration out of cities you saw an increase in

homeschooling i mean there were people who changed their lives when they started to say these are not the values i want to live by even if it's just affecting their material life right like if they're saying i want to be able to you know go to the store or go to the beach or do whatever i don't want to live in this place anymore. And they changed their circumstances in order to better live a life they wanted. They didn't just say, oh, well, this is what they say is good. So I'll just I'll do it. Some people did, but not everybody. Well, we have a society now of masked identities.

You kind of have all these little masks on a table. And today you pick up this one. This one's the I'm going to wear a mask and fight for masks during COVID one. This one's the I'm pro Palestine one or the whatever. this one's the i'm pro palestine one or the whatever this one's the i'm pro trans one and you will go against any other belief you previously had so long as you're wearing that mask it doesn't matter if they contradict each other that's the real scary thing about society is just how inconsistent people can behave right now yeah i think that's what leads to violence is extreme inconsistency i'm more scared of that

than anything it's just how fast people can change their opinion based on what they're told to believe because again they have no inherent value system in themselves whatsoever but i think more so with people who are sort of left-leaning you were alluding this to they're starting to see where the values mean nothing actually they're everything contradicts itself where i feel like people who lean more conservative more libertarian because they have core tenant values that aren't just tied to like this issue or that issue. They have real belief in what they want to see the world and like values they want to live by. It's much easier to navigate the world.

You're not waiting for someone to tell you, well, this is the correct stance on this issue. And you're not relying on a mask again. And so those people can't be controlled, although those people are the biggest threat to the establishment and the first ones who are under attack, which is why we've learned to censor ourselves so much yeah and i think a lot of people start to look towards if someone is being censored or pulled away or saying don't listen to this person they have this label or whatever else i think a lot of people then tend to say but why and it draws them it draws a certain sect of society closer to them because they don't trust the people who are saying don't look at that you know to it to an extreme extreme amount to the

point i have more friends who've now don't believe anything anymore they don't believe the people who are saying, don't look at that, you know? To an extreme, extreme amount to the point, I have more friends who've now don't believe anything anymore. They don't believe the earth is round. Everything is a conspiracy. Like I have a lot of friends who've gone full on into everything as a conspiracy. I can't trust anything at all. I will never trust any information again.

And that's kind of a by-product of everything that's happening too. Yeah. You know, Phil was mentioning earlier on the show that while he was describing what I referred to as zombies, that's happening too yeah you know phil was mentioning uh earlier on the show that uh well he was describing what i what i referred to as zombies basically there's a lot of people that don't know and don't care there are a lot of people who just don't know and can care as long as they they they can understand i think the issue is that the overwhelming majority of this country

are people who don't know and don't care and just want to go with whatever seems the path of least resistance so when it when it appears that wokeness is the dominant force and in control like with george floyd they will do whatever these people say because they think it's the path of least resistance but now that we are starting to gain control of that narrative machine and we're gaining control of with a parallel economy with public square etc many more people are starting to be like i think these guys are going to win everybody's saying trump's going to win what's happening the far left the establishment democrats who are terrified are going insane they want normal people to win to you normal people don't like the the the woke stuff you know so they really do want your average you know not racist not have to worry about uh you know uh land uh what's it

what's it called when they do the the land uh declaration or whatever and it would it doesn't matter anyway that don't have that don't worry about being politically correct yeah you don't want to have to censor yourself you don't want to have to make sure that you're up to date on the most cutting edge information coming out of the sociology department you know um and i think that that's something that i think people are going to be relieved when the pressure or as the pressure is relieved about that stuff i think the people are going to feel much better i think there are a lot of people who you know it's not that they don't care about anything it's just that their lives aren't centered around

politics they live whatever life they live. And actually when the dominant force became something that you had to live in fear of, you had to live in fear of cancel culture. You had to be live in fear of not saying the right thing and potentially having ruined your career. That actually became too authoritarian to the point where they said, I don't want this because most people don't want to live in anxiety. And that was what ultimately the left was producing.

Well, yeah. And self-censorship and fear. It's interesting. Whenever we put out a video for my company, right? The first one was the, what is a man one? Tremendous amount of fear from everyone who knew me. Don't do this. It's going to cause your company to collapse.

And then I put it out. Tremendous amount of support. Tremendous amount of emails. People saying, I've always wanted to say this. I want to stand up for my son or my husband. He works hard. Then the same thing with police. The same thing with when we just stood up for biological women in sports.

Incredible response. It's just that people are scared to come out and put these messages out. And it's shocking to me every time we do it that why am I the only person in the world who owns a company who's right now making an ad in support of biological women in sports there's no other company willing to do it and it takes one company for people to say oh my god i feel the same way it doesn't again it's this is a political fracture point doesn't matter if you're on the right or the left sure it's more dominant on the right that people disagree with kind of what we see happening uh but there's a lot of people on the left who disagree with it too they are the minority position who wants these things yeah they've just they've just become perceptually the majority it's

what we were again psychogenic epidemics it doesn't take a huge percentage of the population to believe in something that's objectively not true and damaging to the population for the population to go along with it you just have to be the most loud voice and then out of compliance and everything we're talking about tolerance just going along to get along will allow that to become the pervasive narrative and it'll become the truth yeah it's like a weird uh weaponized compassion even it is weaponized compassion there is this demand that you you look out for all these people and that you make them happy and it's not going to hurt you to use their preferred pronouns so you should do it this way but all these things are sort of pushing slightly against this question of like, well, where are the boundaries in society that we believe in?

Right. Do you believe that there is, you know, well, it's always compassionate always. And again, like it just I think was too much for the average American who is not particularly political. I don't want to say that they are not compassionate, but they just don't necessarily want to make decisions out of anxiety that they will one day be deleted by nobody wants to make nobody wants to make decisions like that because you're literally making decisions while you're being coerced yeah the whole point of the the the woke stuff or whatever it's all about coercion it's making sure that people are too afraid to step out of line it's it's you know a you there's a a penalty for having ideas that you know fly in the face of the politically

correct and that's the way they want it i think it became too much for anyone to follow it also just it also just became so far-fetched to the point where we put biological men who have a history of raping women in prison with women you know it just became so far gone out in the end of the day reality wins it wins the question is how much damage do we incur in the process right like tim said we're trying to incur as little damage as possible to have reality come back into play right now what the left is doing is fighting against objective reality and that sorry go ahead good good no and there will be consequences for that the question again is just how much do we have to incur we're already starting to see the consequences and stuff like uh the crisis of competence that you hear people talking about there is a possibility that you're

going to start a problem. People are probably familiar with Tosin Lysenko and his policies in the Soviet Union that led to a massive famine because they had science wrong and they were putting this these these wrong policies into practice and it ends up killing people same thing happens in in communist regimes all over the place because there is one orthodoxy and if you step outside of it you know you you are ostracized and that leads to problems that manifest as in as dead bodies as dead human beings that you know are are victims to the the you know the the current thing and that's what's going on with trans people now right but i think you see all kinds of signs of people who are just pulling out of these factions of society right like i think of the number of uh

the the increase in ads and this is anecd. I can't quote any specific evidence. But like in my life, I've seen so many more ads for like Christian Health Share, you know, health insurance through a faith based organization, as opposed to someone who is like, well, I would like my health insurance to the government. It seems like they should provide it. You'll see some people who are still like that, but you'll see a lot of people who are saying like, I don't trust anything you're saying. And so I'm going to personally remove myself from this. I don't want to shop at mainstream grocery stores anymore. I want to shop at farms. I want, they are changing their lifestyle to pull out of this system that seems to be collapsing in so many ways. You know, I never know how real something is. And because every time I have a perception of what's going on, I come across someone else's algorithm

who I'm debating with or having a conversation with, and their perception of the world driven by their algorithm is so completely different. And they believe they're the majority and they believe that everything they're experiencing is the majority position, that everyone's in agreement with them. It's crazy.

The bubbles we live in today is actually quite astonishing. But again, on those issues that you were just talking about people want to live as comfortable and as quality of life as they can and when things start affecting them personally they start speaking out and they start fighting against it they don't care where it comes from and when our compassion is used against us it trans issue why does it hurt you to call somebody by their preferred pronoun you're right it doesn't hurt me but it starts hurting me when you start saying well okay now this has to become objective reality. We're no longer talking about accommodating you

out of an individual comfort level and me just being an empathetic individual. We're starting to say there's consequences to me if I don't believe that you are the thing you say there. Right. And that's where a lot of people are starting to feel that. And it takes a long time for people to feel it because it happens.

People who are in that industry start understanding and feeling it and they start shouting it to the world they're making a demand on your cognitive liberty they're making a demand on your liberty to think for yourself they're asking you to alter reality to no no they're not asking they're making a demand it's a it's a demand and they're doing it they're they're they're making a demand about your ability to think for yourself they're telling you if you don't think for yourself i mean i think you're right but i think ultimately part of it is compliance right like you can ultimately choose whether or not you're going to go along with it you have to resist the urge or whatever they're telling you they're saying oh it's mean to say this or you can't say that like but we've gotten

to the point where it's a little bit of consent in it it's consequence now they're driving you through consequence and i say it again my acting career has been obliterated by this you know i've had all types of threats against me just speaking out for my company and i'm not even a political figure i'm a business owner an actor and i mean they come after me they come after people it's documentary i shot they ruined people's lives that's their goal so it's fear-based it's not just consent it's it's actual consequence real world consequence like this delta guy who just spoke up. Now Delta's investigating. Is that guy going to lose his job?

And I mean, if Delta stands up for him, that's a victory. We're talking about victories. When a company starts standing up for their employees and saying, we're not going to fire you because some person just made this crazy accusation, you're going to start seeing a shift. People will start feeling more comfortable to speak up. Well, the question is, the only thing the company cares about is how much pressure they're going to feel how much pain they'll feel the dylan mulvaney stuff was a huge victory and that companies are pretty terrified

right now that if they're on the wrong side they could lose a lot of money and guess what they didn't lose very much money at all when the when the lgbt people were like we're going to boycott you for not taking dylan's side no they lost money because they sided with them. That's, that's the message. So whether or not a company chooses to defend someone, it's not about whether they're good people. It's about them having a board meeting and a guy coming in and being like, okay, we didn't employ.

He said something offensive to the left. What should we do? If we denounce him, we're going to lose 30% of our business. Okay. We'll say nothing. That's it. And then people start to say things they want to say and they're not as afraid and the companies don't want to get involved in it

but i think i think we're we are winning so much of that i i do have to add though holy fuck man i just don't see how 2024 is going to be it it's kind of wild to me that we're in this period where every day more videos get released of people ransacking stores. I just I watch them all day. And I understand, you know, that the ubiquity of video can increase the perception that this is happening. But no, also, we're seeing the closure of numerous Walgreens, CVS's, Rite Aid's. Walgreens in Chicago is getting rid of their store. Now it's a kiosk.

It's a lobby you walk into type in what you want into a into a tablet and then after you pay someone will come out and bring you the items so these videos we're seeing no they're actually being felt now i think about reading about 1860 and the civil war and all that stuff but not even just that the american revolution man another another crazy period and i'm like it's kind of wild to me that there are so many people who cannot recognize that you are surrounded by moments of mass chaos, destruction, murder, far left extremism. The far left occupied Atlanta. They occupied Seattle. They tried Portland. They occupied Minnesota. They shot and killed random people in the street. In Portland, they roam the streets with rifles and point guns at people.

In Austin, they did the same thing. We're at a period where I feel like in 50 years, they're going to look back and they're going to call this something akin to bleeding Kansas, where they're like, did you know that even though stores were collapsing, the mall in San Francisco surrendered itself to its creditors. Just say, fuck it, we're out. And they just gave up the property. And two of the largest hotels did the same thing. They're going to write how it was very remarkable to see that the perspective of many Americans was that Civil War was not likely to happen, despite the fact that there had been far-left extremists setting up occupations in various cities, shooting people in the streets.

That there had been a thousand people who rioted in front of the capital trying to storm their way in and that there was an attempted kidnapping plot whether you agree with or not i'm saying this will be the narrative they're gonna beg it really is remarkable that despite all of these things that were happening they were still people who felt like nothing bad could happen and that's exactly what we say about 1861 at the first battle of bull run people despite the fact union soldiers were were shooting at confederate soldiers at fort sumter they still thought nothing had happened motherfuckers bleeding kansas happened for seven years john brown went and shot a dude in the face and they were like nah civil war won't happen and i'm sitting here

thinking about all the videos i've seen of just mobs of people ransacking stores, or there's a video of a guy being just beaten by a bunch of bikers, or these street takeovers. And I'm like, social order is basically broken. Well, what was one of the first things they went after?

The police. And look, we put out that video and supported police. It's another fracture point issue. It's interesting, because we talk about right versus left. There was a lot of pushback from the right when I supported police, oddly enough.

But there's these weird fracture points. But the goal is chaos. If you want to destroy America from within, the goal is to create chaos. And fear, believe that there is chaos. I mean, I keep bringing it up, but the fact that like eight different state capitals got evacuated because of a bomb threat today, there is just going to be this increasing agitation that things are about to fall apart, that something bad is happening.

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standard operating procedure and it's only going to intensify and i stand to that still it doesn't matter if it's trump this year is going to be nuts for sure next year if you know next year might be chill if there's actually a normal election if not next year is going to be nuts and there is no normal on the horizon and what it's what is the result of the election that results in a normal 2025 i don't know that there is one that's the problem um and again when people are in a fear state what the number one thing they seek and this is again to tie to that psychogenic epidemic thing one of the primary necessities for a psychogenic epidemic and if you look at the salem witch trials and all these things that have happened historically one of the

main things is you have to have a huge percentage of the population in a fear state because when people are in a state of fear, they seek out to get rid of that feeling. And COVID is a perfect example. They will do anything. They will comply with anything. They will hand over their power, their rights, just to not feel that fear anymore.

People do not like feeling scared. And we've conditioned people even further to go against traditional values. Traditional values taught you to stand up in the face of fear, to stand up against adversity. We've decayed those. We've completely shifted them. And so now you have an entire segment of the population who will comply with anything to get rid of the way they feel.

And we have that same institution that wants to control them, pushing, like you just said, anxiety and fear into their minds nonstop every day. And so the end result there is that we have a very fragmented population we have people who are willing to believe things that are objectively not true just to feel comfortable and it's a very very hard thing to fight the only time you get rid of a psychogenic epidemic they often result in major tragedies they often result in some form of chaos some form of atrocity and the only way to fight against it is to fight that narrative

that's making people feel so unsafe and so again the way you do that is the number one way i think personally i truly believe in and tim had said it earlier is comedy is one of the biggest indicators of how to change culture because if you can get people laughing what is the number one thing that makes you feel less scared laughing if you can get people laughing if you can win that culture war and you can get comedy to come out again because we've destroyed comedy uh people are not willing to laugh anymore and now you see guys like dave chapelle fighting against it and that's the ricky gervais is amazing there's other ones out there who are coming out and they're saying no we're not going to destroy comedy comedy is the battleground if we can get people laughing again

and get them open and get them having a good time i I think that's a major, major winning point for us. So hopefully we do see more of that. I do think Dave Chappelle has helped tremendously in that area, Ricky Gervais. He certainly has. But I think more so for a lot of these comedians, you know, it's interesting. Dave Chappelle did a comedy special,

got attacked relentlessly by the far left. And then his next comedy special, people were critical of because it was clear that he was fucked up by it. He was like just talking about it nonstop and everyone's like's like man he's really just pissed off at woke people and then he made this comedy special and he he got he got him back he got him back big time and it was funny because he was like it was not worth it he's like if you think i'm gonna make fun of these people because they are organized blah blah blah and he goes i'm not gonna say anything about it maybe three or four times and then he repeatedly rips on him

and so he's just like fuck off yeah you stop giving a shit at some point yep i think that's why people like dave chappelle right like he's ultimately gonna do what he wants to do he he picked up a move to ohio when he decided that was a better place for him like that is what people are looking for so it's not only the laughing but you want people who are confident in of themselves who are not trying to force you to believe things they were they believe they're just living life i think that's what people like about chapelle's comedy it's just him being like well here's my perspective thanks so much it's like he's telling a story about how his dad died and he met jim carrey and he turned it into a i'm trans people make me feel like i'm lying and pretending it was a master class and kind of it's like a seven minute story and then

it ends with just one that's how i feel about trans people it's like oh my god when i first when i first saw it someone like the person that i saw the tweet from spoiled it so they they gave away the thing that's why i feel bad for you i grabbed it and i just put just the video up so that way people could see man he's dangerously good at comedy. You know, he has like a superpower. He can influence society tremendously. And the person who tried to kill him was was a bisexual homeless man. Really?

Yep. Guy jumped up on stage with a knife trying to trying presumably to kill him because he had mocked homeless people and LGBT people, they said. And he says the guy was a B. Yeah. Apparently. So that that was part of the reason why he wanted to kill Dave Chappelle. Yeah, it's crazy. I lived near there, actually, in Hollywood, like across the way from that whole thing.

When you heard it happen, you heard all the crowd go, ah, because it was that loud. It was that crazy. Someone jumping up on the stage. And I heard it happen. I was just like, I wonder what's going on. And then I look at the news and see that someone tried to stab Dave Chappelle on stage, which is not the thing you expect to happen. Yeah.

Yeah, here's the video. Hold on. on stage which is like not the thing you expect to happen but yeah yeah here's the video hold on comedian dave chappelle was attacked on stage hell never side coming a man has the details dave chappelle never side coming a man police have identified as 23 year old i see if i can find a better video yeah it's. Yeah, because it's so annoying how the breaking news, blah, blah, blah. At least we ended up in the parallel universe where Dave Chappelle's

Look at that. Wow. I never saw this before. Dave Chappelle after the incident. Yo, dude, tackle them. Could have killed them. Yeah, they don't show the rest of the incident. People had some things to tell him.

Was that Will Smith? They had some stuff to tell him backstage after that. Was that Will Smith? Dave Chappelle says he grabs the guy by the hair and throws him, and then the guy, they found a gun. He's got a gun, and Dave's backstage. And then some guy was trying to pull the round out or whatever, but it wasn't a gun. It was a knife.

And then Dave Chappelle said, he said, the guy had a knife identified as a gun. And then they got mad at him for it. But more importantly, the media will keep saying that the far right is the threat. And I had this conversation over the holiday where someone was asking about the far. I was like, what far right where? And they're just like, well, you know the the these groups and i'm like who which group and i'm like i can tell you far leftist literally took over minneapolis george floyd square they called it i can tell you about atlanta where they surrounded a wendy's armed a bunch of armed people

i can tell you about seattle where they created the capitol hill autonomous zone and i was like do you know about that like no and i'm like so, so you listen to CNN and they tell you about the far right. And what, where, when? But I can Google search all this shit. I showed them the picture from DC of the smoke rising up during the George Floyd riots. And they're like, I've never seen that. Have they really not seen it? This is always a shock to me.

They don't read the news. Yeah. And if they do read the news, the news doesn't present that picture to them. We had Marianne Williamson in here just the other day. I saw it. Sitting right there. And she was, we shot, like Tim showed her stuff that shocked her. She had no idea.

Really? She almost cried when she saw the whiteness contract from that children's book. She has no idea. Yeah, I heard that. You know, so here's something that's happened over you know the past 20 years which is gonna have some kind of backlash inevitably i thought it would have come sooner but the rhetoric toward white people has been so terrible and so you know i'm a jewish person and when elon musk had made had liked that tweet like i had a visceral response

to it because i'm like oh man if elon musk is turning against the jews but then i read it and i was like i was like look you know what the truth is from an honest to god standpoint i have a huge problem with the leftist jewish population that has supported these organizations pushed and now you're coming out and you're upset that this game of identity politics when you had when you were walking side by side with blm as they put Linda Sarsour on top of the stage to talk about how you are evil, you're now surprised. You've been supporting Ilhan Omar and you're now surprised. Sorry, you get what you deserve at some point. You can call George Soros. I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about it.

But George Soros, it's not anti-Semitic to trash George Soros. No. And I'm saying that as a Jew. We should be allowed to do these things. But the tactic is consistent from the left always play the race card always accuse your opponent of some kind of

moral failing and the most dramatic moral failing the people that is available for them to use is you are somehow a bigot but I think also with all of the George Floyd stuff like when these rallies were happening and they're bringing people on stage it was too much stuff was happening at once for you are somehow a bigot. But I think also with all of the George Floyd stuff, like when these rallies were happening and they're bringing people on stage,

it was too much stuff was happening at once for the average non-politically engaged person to keep up with. So we're saying, why didn't they see these videos? Why don't they know that this person was praised at this? They don't know these things

because the media will only focus on one thing at a time and therefore the American mass identity, like what average is going to get through, it's only going to be one thing at a time. And the american mass identity like what average is going to get through it's only going to be one thing and it can't be a full-time job and they can lie my cousin once told me something very interesting he said there's certain wars we can never win because they rely on truth and so long as your enemy is willing to have a hundred lies for every one truth you put out they will win because they are going to drown you with lies i i don't

necessarily i think there's power in the lies, but you expose one lie and a person loses trust in that group. And then you pull some, it's not so much about being a full-time job. If there was one person, never watched the news, but they hung out with us, they would be dramatically better informed than anybody anywhere else. So I think it's just an issue of can like getting people to break away from this these corporate press in this corporate narrative but i'll use the example that i love to use to explain what we're up against with the corporate press and why people don't know

caitlin collins and cnn says that vivek ramaswamy puts a nice tone on disinformation or whatever january 6 was an inside job objectively it's a fact it is not up for dispute why i say everybody's heard me say but i'm gonna say it again because it bears repeating especially for those that haven't heard it if a bank is robbed and a single employee of the bank helps in any way we call that an inside job if a bank teller rips out the silent alarm cable to help the robbers and expect to get a cut and the other 50 employees have no idea that happened, it's still an inside job. If a single police officer opened the door, if a single police officer gave an escort to the Q shaman, it was an inside job. That's just it.

And that's what happened. Aren't they now, isn't the recommendation for the guy who is whispering in everyone's ears, I can't remember his name. Right, yeah, six months. They're trying to give him six months. Yep. Now, I don't know about how many feds were there and whether the feds were trying to make it happen. But I have heard from witnesses that they saw what appeared to be federal law enforcement putting on Trump supporting gear. So these stories are out there

it's not just one person i mean you find it all over the internet so maybe i don't know but i can tell you this the capitol police escorted the q shaman into the building and guided him to the senate chamber where they let him in that's an inside job there was a lot of handshaking going on in some of these release videos selfies a lot of weird stuff that happened that day. So, Elon, thanks for hanging out. Thanks for the watch and the watches. Oh, yeah. Good show. Big break. And for everybody who is a member, thank you for making

all of this possible and supporting our work. Looking forward to this Iowa event. It's going to be crazy. We'll see you all tomorrow. Cheers.