Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #935 Ray Epps WINS, Gets NO JAIL TIME, Trump Team Argues Immunity Appeal w/Trent Staggs

Episode Date: January 10, 2024

Tim, Phil, Seamus, & Serge join Mayor Trent Staggs to discuss Ray Epps getting no jail time for his actions during J6, a Trump lawyer explaining how presidential immunity applies to every crime, secre...t tunnels discovered in NYC under a Synagogue, and Michelle Obama saying she's terrified of the potential outcome of the 2024 election. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:18 And then, of course, I'd like to give an honorable mention to Enrique Tarrio for beating the record of Ray Epps by getting 20 plus years in prison, despite not even being in D.C. So, of course, the Internet is rife with individuals accusing Ray Epps of being a fed because it makes quite no sense that of all the people that have been charged, some 1700, many of them have received jail time and some of them did literally nothing like walking around. Ray Epps actually was at the front line where they breached the barricade. He was telling people to enter the Capitol premeditated. And he admitted on camera he knew that doing so was a crime he would be arrested for.
Starting point is 00:01:57 He gets no jail time, no travel restrictions, a $500 fine, $100 community service. Oh, boy. Donald Trump was in court today. His legal team was arguing he's immune unless impeached and convicted. And what's really got all the Democrats quite angry is that his legal team argued, and I would say correctly, that a president could assassinate a political rival and they cannot be criminally charged unless they are impeached and convicted, which makes absolute sense. Of course, the judge just kept
Starting point is 00:02:25 saying, you mean this could happen? And the lawyer kept saying, yes, but any reasonable Congress is going to impeach a president who does that. If a president is gauged in official duties, you can't criminally charge him for it unless Congress deems it to be crimes and high crimes and misdemeanors. And the Senate confirms through conviction. And then, of course, ladies and gentlemen, the story that everybody really wants to talk about, but, you know, we're a serious show here, secret Jewish tunnels. Yeah, there's a video of a Jewish man
Starting point is 00:02:52 climbing out of the sidewalk in New York City, and there's a video. And my favorite tweet is, imagine witnessing this happening, but not having your phone, and then trying to explain to people that a Jewish man climbed out of the sidewalk from a secret tunnel underground
Starting point is 00:03:03 without sounding like an anti-Semite. So this happened. The police showed up. They tried filling in these secret tunnels. Apparently, some of these young Jewish men started fighting with the police and a dozen or so got arrested. Everybody is wondering what the is going on there. So we'll talk about that plus a whole lot more. Before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com. If you scroll down, you will see Alex Stein's Primetime Grind two times caffeine coffee. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, drink responsibly. Drink your coffee responsibly. Two times caffeine
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Starting point is 00:05:56 besides being a mayor i guess well i i've been uh in utah now in elected office for 10 years and i'm running for united states senate uh have quite a business background too. Helped take a company public in the energy space and have my wife, Alicia, and I have two fantastic kids and just proud to be running. Right on. What city are you the mayor of? I'm the mayor of Riverton, which is just south of Salt Lake City, probably about 20 minutes south there. Man, talk about a beautiful place. It is.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I remember the first time I drove through, just the mountains on either side, indescribable. It really is. I mean, when you go away to somewhere really flat, like say Texas or somewhere else, and you come dropping in and you see how tall and majestic those mountains are, just wow, every time I come back. Go to like Chicago and the suburbs,
Starting point is 00:06:43 the Great Plains. Just all flat. Nothing but sky and buildings. And then you take a vacation. You know, someone like me, you drive through Utah and you're just, it's amazing. Yeah. Other areas think they have mountains. We really have mountains. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:55 So Utah and skiing, of course. Right on. Well, thanks for hanging out. It should be fun. We got Seamus Coghlan. My name is Seamus Coghlan. I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. We do animated political cartoons.
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Starting point is 00:07:20 And I am Serge. I am a Utah man. Utah man I am. And yeah, I'm excited to have you here sir thank you very much and uh let's get it let's go our first story from the washington examiner ray epps gets no jail time sentenced to one year probation a man widely accused by former president donald trump supporters of covertly working on behalf of the fbi during the january 6th capital right was sentenced tuesday to a year of probation for his actions that day.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Ray Epps, 62, pleaded guilty last fall to one misdemeanor for disorderly conduct in a restricted area. The DOJ had asked that Epps get six months in prison, a relatively harsh sentence for that charge. While Epps argued that probation and restitution were appropriate penalties, he received restitution of $500. So here's the big issue, and we'll just keep it real simple for y'all he's the one guy on camera orchestrating and i mean that literally telling people to go into the capitol if there is any orchestrating that is documented is that you take a look at the proud boys and all keepers or
Starting point is 00:08:22 whatever and it's like vague we're gonna go to go. Who knows what's going to happen? There's no real plan. It's even admitted in these official statements that they don't really have a plan. Enrique Tarrio was not in Washington, D.C. on that day. They sentenced him to 20 years. Ray Epps not only was there, but was advocating
Starting point is 00:08:39 for people to go in, is on camera saying he knows he'll be arrested for inciting this. He says, I don't want to say it because I'll get arrested, but I'll say it. And then he tells people to go in, is on camera saying he knows he'll be arrested for inciting this. He says, I don't want to say it because I'll get arrested, but I'll say it. And they say, say it. And then he tells people to go in the Capitol. And then there's a video of him at the front barricade when it's first breached, whispering into a man's ear.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And then they breach the barricades, storm the Capitol grounds. And this guy gets probation. We have so many stories of people like brandon strock for instance never went in the building prison how about owen schroyer did not go in the building prison many people are rightly wondering why it is this man ray apps is not getting any jail time but more importantly why he has been defended by the corporate press here's my conspiracy theory he's actually just as you as everything is perfectly straightforward and the corporate press is defending him that's the real conspiracy he actually is some bumbling trump supporter who advocated that them
Starting point is 00:09:36 going the capital and the doj is like let's go real easy on him and get our buddies in the press to defend him so it makes everybody think he's the bad guy well you know it's a very interesting situation and the way that it's framed is very telling so this article and many of the other articles you'll read is ray epps who right-wingers and conservatives and conspiracy theorists allege was involved with the federal government in some capacity or needs to be punished more harshly than he's being uh punished rather than ray epps who whispered in the ear of the first person who broke down a barricade or Ray Epps, who was inciting the riot a day before and telling people they should enter the Capitol and who was then called a fed. But they never point out what actually happened, but they never point out
Starting point is 00:10:17 what the evidence shows. They always point out. This is what right wingers think. This is what conservatives think. This is what conspiracy theorists think. This is what conservatives think. This is what conspiracy theorists think. Not this is what happened. Right. And the important that the very, very important thing about these videos is Ray Epps saying that he knows he will be arrested for what he is about to say. And then he says it. He knows what he is saying is incitement to illegal activities. And they and they avoided charging this guy for a very long time yep and
Starting point is 00:10:45 their argument was he never set foot in the building but like you said brandon strzoka and or uh owen schreier are both people who never entered the building either and yet they were charged and they were in prison and brandon strzoka who we actually had on the show had to plea down from like 20 years or something like that they were trying to lock him up in federal prison for a very long time and he never entered the buildings too they lied about the evidence they said that he was egging people on and telling them to go into the building when when it's not clear that he actually was because you can't see him on camera and according to him it's someone off camera yelling it uh we actually have footage of ray epps telling people to go in and whispering in someone's ear and he gets six months probation
Starting point is 00:11:25 when they were trying to charge brandon stracca and lock him up for 20 years this is the most black pilling situation i think that's going on in the united states right now the the way that the people that are that were at the at the capitol and the sixth are being treated um the way that the government has really you know set the the the conditions so that it's clearly favoring people and clearly going out of you know out of its way to essentially you know prosecute people for things that are protected under the constitution um and it's it's it's blatant and the real disheartening thing is not that the government is doing it or people in the government would do it because they're all garbage anyways yeah um it's that there are so many americans that support it and this goes back to the fact that america is
Starting point is 00:12:17 going through in my opinion america and a lot of other people too america is currently going through a cultural revolution like they did, like they had in China. And what that means is the fundamental principles that our country is founded on. And I'm not talking about religion or any of that kind of stuff. I'm talking about simple, basic things like you are innocent until proven guilty. are literally being ignored currently in regard to january 6th in regard to donald trump in regard to also any number of federal and state cases that are have been brought against people that have the wrong politics people in other countries can see this people in other countries clearly see this whatever your opinion on on donald trump when you have people like glenn greenwald who is
Starting point is 00:13:05 no trump fan and is no right winger can clearly see this and then you can have people like that are as silly as alex jones can see this and they're both saying the same things and the only people that don't see this are the actual establishment i mean it's the only people that don't see this are the actual establishment i mean it's the only people that that if you pay attention if you are paying attention to what's going on it is difficult to for me to believe that you are being honest if you can't see that there is political persecution and i'm glad that you pointed out that this is very reminiscent of the cultural revolution what we're seeing is a kind of neo-maoism where they accuse people of being enemies of the state or the establishment needing of ostracization or even imprisonment on the basis of their political values and it's also
Starting point is 00:13:49 ranked uh based on their their ethnic background their their immigrant status whether they're conservative or not right what mao did is he created a series of privileged classes and then he told the people you have to go after the privileged classes and to be labeled as a member of one of these privileged classes uh in in mao's cultural revolution was basically a death sentence or a sentence to be imprisoned but let me just be perfectly clear but let me be perfectly clear that is where this kind of thing ends you don't start singling out ethnic groups in political groups and start saying that they're evil need to be ostracized and removed from society and just have that stop like there's either a backlash and it stops happening or it ends up getting violent and they try to harm people we already see they're trying to lock people up on the basis of their
Starting point is 00:14:31 political values yes and what do you to your point about the identity stuff Mao had red and black identities if you were a communist you would you had a red identity and they used those identities to turn children against their parents. If your parents owned a shop or owned property or owned everything or own, you know, own anything or you were just looked at unfavorably, you were you you believed you were not a communist or whatever. You had a black mark on your family and the children would go to school and they didn't want to have black marks. They wanted to be they wanted to have red identities. They to be good communists they wanted to get along with their friends they wanted that they didn't want to be weird it was all peer pressure which is what we're seeing now all of that stuff all of these things are reminiscent of mouse mouse cultural revolution it's happening currently in the united states because actual marxism economic Marxism, vulgar Marxism does not work.
Starting point is 00:15:25 So they're trying to use a racial, a racial vector. All of the talk about race that you're seeing now, and it's people, everyone agrees there's constantly talk about race. That is just a vector of attack. And it's all because it's a Maoist cultural revolution going on in the US. It's crazy to me that you have not just that concept, like you said, that it's been turned on its head, innocent until proven guilty. It's that equal justice under the law, right?
Starting point is 00:15:47 That is the application. That is what is foundational to our country. And you're not seeing that. You've got this two-tier justice system that's going on. I see it ever since running for U.S. Senate. You know, I'm trying to replace Mitt Romney here. And going around and talking to so many Utahns. I've talked to many that actually were there on January 6th, and it
Starting point is 00:16:05 blew me away to listen to the story of one woman in particular, who was there with her son-in-law. They had two different judges, right? She unfortunately got the harsher judge. And for just walking around 30 days in a federal penitentiary- In the building? In the building. All she did was walk around for, I don't know, just maybe 15 minutes max and did 30 days in a federal penitentiary in Washington state. And she said, I'm the only one I know of that's done time for a misdemeanor. More time than Ray Epps. More time than Ray Epps.
Starting point is 00:16:38 This is what's amazing is that a large portion of the convictions in the January 6th cases are people who showed up after the fact. And there's no barricades that have been ripped down. The doors had been opened by police. Joe Scarborough of MSNBC on January 7th, CNN reports. He said, you opened the effing doors for them. So there are people who don't know what's going on. The Capitol is normally open, unrestricted. The police open the
Starting point is 00:17:05 doors and even fanned some in they go to prison this is crazy what's happening in this country and when you look at what's going on the southern border i gotta be honest man look i don't think all hope is lost i certainly think we have been winning and there's a lot of people who don't want to accept it but we've got tremendous cultural victories. I mean, the fact that Dave Chappelle can say the jokes that he can say to mass applause from a D.C. audience shows we are winning this culture war. But of course, when you back an animal into a corner, they will lash out violently. And as the establishment machine begins to lose power, they are going to act irrationally and violently. And that's what we are now seeing we are seeing people who are just bumbling you know tourists in dc who went to see a speech walked around and go to prison it's horribly depressing and as mentioned earlier
Starting point is 00:17:57 this all ties into whether or not you are a member of one of the favored identity groups. Look, big, bad, scary, white person, insurrectionist, right winger inside of the Capitol. Well, that person is going to do prison time, right? Or they're going to be more likely to. They're certainly going to be frowned upon in the media. And that's why people are asking, why is nothing happening to this Ray Epps guy? Because he is every single thing. And he's a member of every identity group that we're constantly told we're supposed to hate.
Starting point is 00:18:26 This is an older guy who seems to be working class, who's a white conservative male who was inciting a riot and was inciting a quote unquote insurrection. And he only gets probation. Now, don't sit here and try to tell me that that's his white privilege kicking in and people not wanting to prosecute him and the system not handling him because he's a white guy or because conservatives
Starting point is 00:18:51 are actually secretly privileged and we're getting this wrong because other conservative-leaning people who are more politically active have gotten in far more trouble in this instance for far less. The reality is there is information that's being withheld for us on his involvement.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And that's all I'll say. I always he did more to incite a riot that or to incite violence, incite the riots and stuff than Donald Trump did. Absolutely. I think without question, without question, it is it is. by pointing out the facts of the case that January 6th was an inside job, was adjudicated as an inside job, and is, as a matter of fact, based on CNN's reporting, January 6th was an inside job. But don't take my word for it. First, let me give you the definition of inside job from the Oxford Dictionary.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Inside job is defined as a crime committed by or with the assistance of a person living or working on the premises where it occurred. Notice they say committed by or with the assistance of inside job is a fairly broad term. It means that someone inside allowed or helped or assisted in this happening. Of course, then we have this story from CNN. Man who said January 6th was magical acquitted in U.S. Capitol riot case. A federal judge found Matthew Martin not guilty of four federal misdemeanors, four related to trespassing. Martin had successfully argued that a U.S. Capitol officer waved him into the building. At least one video played during the trial appeared to show an officer moving his arm in a waving motion.
Starting point is 00:20:20 That is to say CNN has confirmed a video exists of an officer waving at Matthew Martin, for which Matthew Martin interpreted as being waved into the building and that a judge agreed that the police officer appeared to be waving him not the point. With the assistance of a Capitol Police officer, this man entered the building. But don't take my word for it. Why don't you? Oh, do I not? I'm sorry. I've made a terrible mistake. I did not pull up the Joe Scarborough article. I pulled up the other Vakron.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Sorry, silly me. Joe Scarborough lambast Capitol Police. You opened the effing doors for them. CNN reports. And that's it. Without refuting. They report. Joe Scarborough saying outright.
Starting point is 00:21:10 They politely opening the door for terrorists. Who had scrawled on the door. Murder the media. He added. Joe Scarborough's argument. Is that these people were violent terrorists. And the police opened the doors politely for them. Why?
Starting point is 00:21:24 Let me just get a show of hands. How many of you would view that as assistance? That's assistance. One, two, three. I'm going to say it's assistance. That is everyone in the room raising their hand that police politely opening the door for what Joe Scarborough calls terrorists as assisting them. I don't see why police would politely open the door, according to Joe Scarborough. So according to MSNBC and CNN, there is adjudicated, a judge said,
Starting point is 00:21:49 cop waved this guy in, so it appears. Well, that sounds like it's reasonable to say it was an inside job. So when they claim Vivek Ramaswamy was wrong that it was an inside job, Vivek said it appeared to be. Why? Certainly based on CNN's own reporting, it does appear to be an inside job. Vivek said it appeared to be. Why? Certainly based on CNN's own reporting, it does appear to be an inside job. But I would say, considering we know the police did open the doors, took selfies with people, so much so that MSNBC got very angry about it and CNN even reported
Starting point is 00:22:14 on both instances, inside job is beyond confirmed in every conceivable way. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. But I suppose we can uh jump to the next story in the january 6th case this is from the daily mail judge asks trump lawyer if president would be immune from prosecution for using seal team six to assassinate a political rival an explosive courtroom showdown this is a really great story. And it's a very important story for all of you. This is an excellent way to help people understand that these issues in law are nuanced and the headline does not accurately portray what is being the information being conveyed. First, let me start by shocking all of you by saying it is a fact and it is true. In this argument, it makes absolute sense and it
Starting point is 00:23:07 is reasonable and rational to argue if the president ordered the assassination of his political rival, you could not prosecute him unless he has been impeached and convicted already. That's the statement. The judges tried to make it seem like it was some egregious and shocking thing that such an argument would be made, but it does make sense because there actually is an official argument for an official course of action in which a president or politician would assassinate their rival. I'll give you a simple explanation. President A learns through the Senate Intelligence Committee or the House Intelligence Committee or whatever, foreign affairs, top secret information that a political rival of his has been making deals with a foreign adversary and is going to be meeting with them in a foreign country to deliver top secret nuclear code information from the United States. Unfortunately, they discovered this much too late and they need to put a stop to it. The president goes to a federal judge who reviews the evidence.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Their arguments are made and a warrant is issued. The president then orders this man must be stopped by any means necessary. After this political rival is caught in the act of selling state secrets, an act of treason, when U.S. forces try to apprehend and arrest him, he resists and draws a weapon and is killed by the president's forces. The assassination of a political rival. Now, perhaps you can argue that they mean like just taking him out. In that instance, as I described it, there would be no impeachment. Congress would say, no, we were the ones that delivered the intelligence that this man had betrayed his country. And a judge signed off on the warrant for his apprehension and or execution for treason. In which case you could not prosecute the president for taking this action as no one in Congress would believe a crime had been committed.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Now, if Donald Trump or any president just straight up killed their political rival for political power instantly in Congress, they would be impeached and convicted, and then they could be criminally charged. The important thing to understand here is that were this to not be the case, as Democrats are arguing, this could mean that states or elements of the federal government could criminally charge a president whenever they feel like it before, before, during, or after they're even in office, if they feel threatened by him and the founding fathers were concerned this would disrupt the political process a man announces he's going to run for office so what happens a rival political actor in government decides i'll criminally charge him so that he can't win and that's exactly where we are yeah no um it's
Starting point is 00:25:40 interesting right because it it's really a question of process as you mentioned so saying something like he would have to be impeached first is like saying he would have to be arrested first it's interesting right because it it's really a question of process as you mentioned so saying something like he would have to be impeached first is like saying he would have to be arrested first it's just part of the process doesn't mean it's something he's allowed to do it means that we actually have a process laid out for how that's taken care of this this seems like there is a process here uh trump's lawyers have made a completely sound argument that i believe is correct you can't accuse a president of committing crime. So in this instance, we're talking about Trump investigating voter fraud. It's actually the duty of the executive branch to investigate voter fraud, should there be any.
Starting point is 00:26:15 But because there's a conflict of interest in that it was Trump's election, they're arguing it was a criminal activity. Well, I believe it is correct. Trump should be, there should be an investigation as a conflict of interest. The determination was he was impeached and then he was acquitted. How could you criminally charge someone who's been acquitted for this very thing? They're going after him. Why? The arguments to the Supreme Court are the point of the Democrat process. Create, or so they're in a federal appeals court right now and making these arguments
Starting point is 00:26:44 on immunity. And the Supreme Court is going to hear trump's case on the ballot uh issue but right now if these judges come out and say the president is not immune then we are inching towards absolute dictatorship and the collapse of the republic oh boy yeah that's a pretty great takedown um great analysis right there because you're right there is a process there's a procedure that we have to go through i mean the the he has to be impeached he has to be convicted uh in the senate that hasn't happened here and um there is that is the argument exactly that attorneys are making is they have a presidential immunity that it is there for the reasons that you've cited this this case they're bringing against him is the offense.
Starting point is 00:27:29 The offense is not to criminally charge Trump. That's a byproduct. The offensive attack against our republic is this for the judges to rule presidents can be criminally charged. Then the next time an America first candidate, let's say let's say in eight years, Vivek Ramaswamy is the front runner. What will happen? Federal agents to prevent him from winning will file criminal charges against him. Let's say he actually gets elected. Let's say, let's say there's a backroom deal. And he goes to the establishment and says, look, there's a few things that I want to do for this country, but I agree to play ball with you on foreign policy. They say, OK. Then he gets elected and says, no, I'm going to play things my way.
Starting point is 00:28:03 They go, OK, you're under arrest. We're going to criminally charge you now. It doesn't matter who you are, if you're the president or not. It doesn't matter if the people want you elected. If the Democrats win the ability to criminally charge a sitting president, no election will ever matter ever again. Yeah, I mean, I think
Starting point is 00:28:20 that that does make sense. And I'm not, I mean, I don't have a whole lot of faith in most of the judges and and a judicial system that is trying trump i think that most of these uh most of these cases should have been thrown out um i think the one in uh about the what was it actually no i'm not i i think they maybe maybe georgia has something but either way um so i don't have any faith that they're gonna that the judge will decide, you know, in a in a fair way. If you listen to these judges, you would come to the conclusion they will not judge in a fair way.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I mean, so so I mean, as much as again, this is this goes back to my point of why I'm so blackpilled. I don't think that the justice system is treating any of this fairly and it and the people that are that are prosecuting tend to be democrats you know the the opposing party the it just doesn't i don't see how this is in any way fair how why the american people aren't saying look this is clearly political and making more noise about this well yeah i mean why would we expect a fair outcome when none of this is fair to begin with the fact that he's even gone to trial donald trump has been more investigated and he's been more um he's had more charges brought up against him than any president in recent history and are you going to sit here with a straight face and tell me he's been the most corrupt that's ridiculous more corrupt than
Starting point is 00:29:40 george bush more corrupt than bill clinton more corrupt than Bill Clinton, more corrupt than Barack Obama. It's completely insanity. We are absolutely watching the erosion of the Republic. Did you guys see, it was a couple days ago, that senator from New Hampshire said, quote, a democracy if you can keep it. Embarrassing. Embarrassing. Intentionally erasing history. Why?
Starting point is 00:30:02 Here's what I try to explain to people. Democracy does not mean rule by majority. They think it does. Democracy means rule by the absolute slimmest of minorities. What people think a democracy will be, 10 people ask what's for lunch and everyone votes. People think democracy means six people say we want pepperoni pizza. Congratulations, you got pepperoni pizza. I'll tell you what democracy is. At Occupy Wall Street, they needed a way to keep supplies dry. So they used to have these things called general assemblies, where the whole group of Occupy gets together and then they'll, you know, petition everybody and then raise their hands
Starting point is 00:30:38 and wiggle their fingers if they like things. The idea was, hey, we had a bunch of clothes and supplies that are getting wet from the rain. We need plastic bins to store them. So if it rains or snows they will not be destroyed simple right well you'd think in a democracy the average person assumes you're going to get a yes or no vote right that's not what happened what happened was everybody said all in favor of buying the bins the no's have it why well plastic is bad for the environment, so we can't have plastic. Okay, well, what's the solution? There's no other material. We're not going to get a glass one.
Starting point is 00:31:10 You're not going to get a wooden sealed basket with rubber or anything, right? Well, how about this? How about we get recycled, reused bins, so that way we're not contributing? Okay, now we've got a proposal here. All in favor of recycled plastic bins the no's have it why because was this sourced fair trade were the workers treated properly i'm not kidding this happened eventually what happens is in a democracy there is only a tiny percentage that actually wants the outcome and the majority of people compromise with each other to create some wacky outcome that makes no sense the end result was the vote that won was recycled fair trade plastic bins that are bought off of craigslist and you can't spend more than x amount so what happened well that's clearly impossible so the people who had access to the money just went to i went i believe they went to
Starting point is 00:32:04 a supermarket like a department store just bought standard plastic bins for 20 bucks and then brought them in there and then just said, sure, we did what we wanted. If everybody gets a vote on how to run something, you don't get a simple majority. You get this weird amalgamation of the desires of as many people as possible and then the result is how many people came out and filled out a form saying i want this specific kind of plastic bin three out of a hundred and that's who wins in the end that's direct democracy well so this is actually something a good friend of mine pointed out he said like have you ever tried to make dinner plans with multiple people hell it's like it's it's really. But you know what works out really well?
Starting point is 00:32:46 When like, you're a kid, and you're in the car with your parents, and your dad's like, here's where we're going for dinner. And then you just go there, and you pick what you want off the menu, right? But where these things always end up is one person just making the decision anyway.
Starting point is 00:33:00 So we're kind of fooling ourselves if we think we really have this process where everyone's actually coming together and getting what they want. Dude, I got an idea. We should totally do it. So, Freedomistan, our new studio, is done. I should say the new structure, the buildings, past inspection, it is done. All we're doing now is the actual technical build-out for the studio, and then we'll be there in a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Let's make a video where we give everyone 10 options for dinner dessert let's just do this let's just let's just do uh dinner we'll say here's a list of meats here's a list of carbs here's a list of vegetables vote for which one you like the most do you think you're going to get a delicious eggplant parmesan with fresh ricotta on top no you're going to get like a beef steak with a scoop of vanilla ice cream espresso poured around it some asparagus stalk sticking out of it and you're going to be like i am not eating this but hey that's what everyone voted for most people wanted beef most people wanted ice cream most people wanted asparagus most people wanted espresso and then you're going to be like welcome to democracy yeah it's it's and it's been referred
Starting point is 00:34:09 to as the tyranny tyranny of the minority right uh under that scenario and that's there's been a concerted effort for decades now to take control of that word and to foist it up democracy let's save our democracy i mean i get so sick and tired of seeing this too we're seeing democracy 2024 that's not what our country is we're a constitutional republic their country it's right and i've heard you say this before where words really have meaning and democrats and the left are so good at co-opting that and just putting that out there time and again when they when they say our democracy they're not including you. That's right. They really mean our. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:46 It's like the way I've described it is three guys break into your house, start destroying your living room. And when you walk in and say, get out of my house, one burglar looks at the other burglar and says, he's trying to kick us out of our house. Yeah. He's not calling it your house. He's not acting like you're a part of his plans. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:04 No, it's absolutely right it's it's always so funny to me because for years and years what the left did in what they did within the popular culture is they made people laugh at these american buzzwords right so they said oh come on conservatives and right-wingers talk about freedom and freedom just the word became a punchline oh it's freedom oh it's america uh and of course you say it in a southern accent because that's that's peak comedy um and now they'll go our democracy this is about our democracy which is hilarious they're just they're like throwing around these like dime store patriotic terms without actually thinking about the ideas they're expressing what do you mean by that like why is this good for democracy Why is it good for democracy to remove the front runner of the Republican primaries out of the process?
Starting point is 00:35:50 Because they're saying our democracy. They're not saying democracy. Yes, I agree. That's my point. They're just throwing this around as a buzzword. No, no, no, no, no. The elite know what they're doing. I'm arguing with you on this i'm saying you are incorrect and i'm saying that i i don't know how much we disagree because the we do are using it that way but i think your average person who hears that and throws that around or thinks it sounds good doesn't detect it my point is it they're saying the fact that donald trump could win is a threat to our yes
Starting point is 00:36:18 plan that's what the press is so there's a couple people that are running for the democratic primary and i forget the guy's name or whatever but he he tweeted out, me and Marianne Williamson are not insurrectionists. Why are they blocking our primary? And I said, because you running in an election is a threat to their power structure. The quote-unquote democracy they have is not a democracy of the people. It's a democratic system of the elites where they get to decide. And if you actually ran against them you would threaten their power structure absolutely i'm not talking about that
Starting point is 00:36:49 i agree with you that they have a kind of oligarchy and they're trying to preserve their power but when the reason they seize on to these words like democracy is because they know your average person who doesn't have time to research or think about these things here's that goes like oh democracy that's a good word this is about democracy yeah i think to a certain degree but my point is that they're literally saying we are trying to build a new communist system yep that we we would call like like north korea calls their country the democratic republic of north korea yeah good point people's republic of china so they're saying our democracy is they may as well be saying our communist dictatorship they say they're saying this election communist dictatorship is on the ballot they call it democracy yeah because that's a nice
Starting point is 00:37:30 word he used good word i like when he uses good word when he used good word he right right this goes this goes you're against good word this goes yes i am against good word um this goes back to uh this goes back to yes i to the point about maoism because that was something that mouse said like communism is the idea of communism is pure democracy. He's not entirely wrong. And it will destroy the republic, which is the intent. And it's frustrating when you talk to people that get their news from Jon Stewart or from Comedy Central, and they believe all of the the the messages that are
Starting point is 00:38:07 coming out of comedy central and that's that's really one of the most damaging things that that's happened to the u.s has been the ability of of the daily show to just feed people the most insane propaganda and have the most ridiculous framing of anything conservative and it's really been toxic because it's affected the way that people like you were saying about freedom and stuff the way that people perceive things that are fundamental to the united well and the left really does has gotten to the point where they hate america they hate liberalism you talk to any leftist and they don't call themselves liberals they call themselves progressives so i like uh jimmy Kimmel one of this really long
Starting point is 00:38:46 rant about Aaron Rodgers and it was the stupidest thing ever because he was like calling someone a pedo isn't an opinion and he threatened to sue Aaron Rodgers but then he goes on to say he read about the Dunning-Kruger effect where people are too stupid to realize they're stupid he said ignorant
Starting point is 00:39:01 but I love this because he should have talked to his lawyer because publicly stating that you believe the person who defamed you is too stupid to realize they defamed you is an affirmative defense for the person who defamed you under times v sullivan in which case if he ever did sue aaron rogers could say jimmy kimmel admitted it i genuinely believed what i had said and you know what case is missed you know um jimmy kimmel also made a dig at him for going to community college which is hysterical how many of these leftists complain about how expensive college is and about how horrible the student debt crisis is only to turn around and laugh at people who took responsibility and said i'm gonna go somewhere less expensive
Starting point is 00:39:43 they're gonna go somewhere where i won't rack up a lot of debt none of them believe any of the things they're saying it's all about status it's all about hierarchy it's all about kissing their own i want to point out aaron rogers never said jimmy kimmel was on the list he said jimmy kimmel is probably worried the list may come out and the interpretation by most people was that he was implying Kimmel was on the list maybe or I stated this before the Epstein documents were released and there's more coming out every day uh Jimmy Kimmel came out and said I've never met with Epstein I never flew on his plane well Aaron Rodgers didn't say that but I actually think there's a very good reason that Jimmy Kimmel was sweating bullets over these documents. And that is, it has been reported that he was in business with, what's the guy's name? Andrew Perry Lang.
Starting point is 00:40:29 He was in business with Epstein's personal chef who owned a restaurant. I think it was called APL. Jimmy Kimmel was good friends with him. Jimmy Kimmel may be worried about the release of this, not because he's on the list. He could be peripherally mentioned, but because his good friend is on the list. So Aaron Rodgersally mentioned, but because his good friend is on the list. So Aaron Rodgers said a very basic statement, which probably is true. Jimmy Kimmel has reason to be worried. And it's not just Perry Lang. It's many people in Hollywood who may appear on these lists who are friends with Jimmy Kimmel.
Starting point is 00:41:00 So if those lists come out and it turns out that a good friend of Jimmy Kimmel was deeply involved in what was going on with Epstein, and it's true, this guy was Epstein's personal chef, Jimmy Kimmel may be worried that could damage his brand or his net worth or something, even though he's not accused of being a pedo. Yeah, I mean, look, if you're not willing to be friends with pedophiles, you're not going to have very many friends in Hollywood. I know. You'd basically just be by yourself hanging out, ostracized, and then you'd make make a documentary where they call you all a liar, even though you're a victim. How about we jump to this story? Ladies and gentlemen, it's the moment you've all been waiting for. Newsweek says, secret tunnel under New York synagogue sparks catechism. But I will not bury the lead.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I will simply just play for you this video so you can all say, holy what the is going on. For those that are listening, the video depicts a Jewish man climbing out of a secret tunnel in the sidewalks of New York City, swatting at the camera and then running away. It looks like a skit. And again, my favorite tweet from this is imagine seeing a Jewish man climb out of an underground tunnel in New Yorkork sidewalk not having your camera to film it and trying to explain to your friends what you saw without sounding like an anti-semite it's already been a wild year man this is insane so the story is there's a secret tunnel built under a new york synagogue the police show up cement trucks come to fill in the tunnel
Starting point is 00:42:21 soiled mattresses are pulled from this crevice. Young men then rip the walls down of this wood paneling and break through the wall to try and occupy the space to stop the construction crews from cementing it in. When the police show up, young Jewish men fight the police and a dozen are arrested. And now everyone is saying, what the is going on with secret Jewish tunnels in New York City? The Jews are hanging out with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. So I have a friend. That would be the cool explanation.
Starting point is 00:42:54 That would be the fun one. I have a friend that is a young Jewish man that lives on Long Island. And he sent me some information about this. Apparently there is a sect of young Jewish men that are considered Israelis from a fringe sect of Judaism to come to the U.S. as teenagers to study with little to no supervision. They have no money, awful living conditions, and no regard for anyone or anything outside of their ridiculous beliefs that essentially amount to treating the Lubavitcher Rebbe, who passed away in the 90s, as a deity. They consider him to be the Messiah and refuse to acknowledge that he is no longer alive the rumor is that they dug the tunnel so they'd have unrestricted access to the main synagogue here when it's closed as it was for a bit during covid um the apparently the rebbe used to give dollars out every sunday along with
Starting point is 00:43:41 other blessings people would line up so he was a an icon and there there are there's a sect of judaism that thinks he's the messiah and i apparently they had a underground tunnel because they were fighting the man so do you think that's what this is look when i when i saw the police coming in and then these young men start fighting cops i'm like zealotry immediate ideological zealotry there's no there's there's zero percent chance you save this tunnel once they've discovered it the idea that a dozen young jewish men could fight the police off and preserve this was insane the only reason they would then do it is if their ideology was stronger than their logic in their minds they're thinking i know we'll lose but for this reason we must fight to protect our secret tunnel uh yeah i think it's hilarious i've got the wikipedia the guy that they're talking about that has passed away his
Starting point is 00:44:38 name is menachem mendel schneer schneerson i swear God, I'm not making this up. I'm going to copy the Wikipedia on the guy. I got it right here. Yeah. Menachem Mendel Schneerson. Yeah. So he's dead. Yeah. But they believe he was, what, a deity or something?
Starting point is 00:44:56 This particular sect apparently believes that he is the Messiah. And he was well-loved by people in the community, and I guess according to Jews and stuff, but there are people that have taken to the extreme. The leader of the Shabbat Lubavitch movement. How do the tunnels come into play here, though? They didn't want to be held down by the man. They wanted to be able to get to synagogue, man. Oh, this was because of the COVID lockdown.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Well, that's what people say, but it's years later now, right? They're still not locked down, so would people i gotta i gotta be honest if if young men built tunnels so they could go and and worship their first amendment right when the oppressive dictatorship of the state was trying to suppress their constitutional right that's based yeah i mean 100 don't fight cops but what yeah but what are you know what are they still doing down there if it's i guess if you have a cool tunnel, like you still use the cool tunnel, but I don't know if that's the explanation. They are men. There's got to be something else. But there's a very interesting question to be had in this case.
Starting point is 00:45:55 What we saw in New York with the shutting down of churches and synagogues was unconstitutional. Judges had ruled it unconstitutional. And Cuomo said, go ahead. I'll just make another executive order and shut these things down. The people who are committing the crimes were the police officers trying to stop people from expressing their first amendment rights. The constitution is the law of the land. In which case these young men who built the tunnel to be able to go into the synagogue to worship when they were being oppressed by the dictatorship, by the communist authorities, they were in the right.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Yes, clearly. I mean, the lockdowns were the most clearly unconstitutional, especially in the context of people that wanted to go and practice their religion. I personally am not a believer, but it's protected in the Constitution, clearly. There's no there's no ambiguity about you you know you have the right to assemble and you have the right to practice your religion there's you know i mean the or the the country can't make the state can't make a uh laws regarding religion so clearly they they had no authority to do that and there's been there's
Starting point is 00:47:03 been no you know nothing's happened since. Nobody lost their jobs. No one got fired, you know. Let's segue this story about secret Jewish tunnels in the most likely and appropriate direction. Civil war. So when we are now dealing with a question of at what point let me let me put it this way this show is always about being on the correct side of law don't break the law you handle things appropriately if the cops come to stop you you comply and then you fight in court because fighting a cop on the street
Starting point is 00:47:39 doesn't do anything for you there are limits however and people ask this question at what point must you defy a police officer? Well, obviously, if the police officer is committing a crime, you are not obeying the law by obeying a police officer who's committing a crime, right? Like, if a cop went and was robbing a bank and then ordered
Starting point is 00:47:57 you, under threat of law, to help fill his duffel bags, you should not do that. I mean, well, I'm not going to tell you what to do because he's threatening your life. Yeah. But if he says, if you don't do this,
Starting point is 00:48:07 I'll arrest you. I'd be like, bro, you're the one committing the crime. I'm not going to do this. Herein lies the big challenge. We are dangerously close to this point.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Nay, we are already in it where we are seeing police officers engage in illegal activity. We are seeing border patrol officers engage in illegal activity. And this,
Starting point is 00:48:23 this issue of the tunnel under the synagogue brings up a really important question. Sooner or later, it will be impossible to answer what is the right side of the law. So again, what we say is you see a video of a guy and he's being stopped by the police and he fights the cops and the cops defend themselves and the guy dies. And then everyone's like, oh, the cop's racist. And I'm like, dude, if a cop is stopping you, don't fist fight him. You keep your mouth shut. You put your hands behind your back. Then you get in touch with your lawyer and you win in the system, which we have built to deal with these things. But what happens when the police are shutting down churches illegally. And now the police are basically kidnapping and threatening
Starting point is 00:49:06 you with violence without actual authority. The problem there is New York City government asserts the authority to do it. The Constitution says otherwise, and the judges have said otherwise. How would we advocate? Would we tell you, no, these cops are committing crimes. You should ignore them. Then YouTube says, nope, the cops cops are always right what's what's the stance that the broadcasters will take you literally honestly in a real if you're going to actually talk about this as a realistic situation the cops got a gun you do what the cop says the long and short of it the guy with the gun is the one that you listen to get out of that situation because you're not going to win a gunfight and the government's not going to say okay this is good no no no not going to say, okay, this is good.
Starting point is 00:49:45 No, no, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. A guy shows up wearing a badge that says the new Republic of New York and he's got a gun and he's wearing a uniform and he says, you now are under my jurisdiction. We assert authority here. Do you listen to him? You are at that point.
Starting point is 00:50:01 There's someone trying to force you to do something that is illegal. You have been kidnapped by that guy and you get away from them. You escape if possible. At that point, there's someone trying to force you to do something that is illegal. You have been kidnapped by that guy and you get away from them. You escape if possible. My point here is that you're making the assumption that the person wearing the badge of New York City is operating under any kind of constitutional authority. No, I'm making, by saying you should escape, I'm making the assumption that they're illegitimate. The point here is, this is the point that I've made numerous times as it pertains to these stories. What happens if someone knocks on your door and you go, and there's a clown in total clown garb standing there. And you're like, who are you?
Starting point is 00:50:32 What do you want? And he says, I am the Clown Bureau, and we are here to arrest you. We have a warrant. Would you actually listen to the Clown Bureau? I mean, look, the ATF shows up at everybody's house every now and again. Right. The point is, you clearly recognize a man in a clown costume is no legal authority. That's absurd.
Starting point is 00:50:54 What happens when a person shows up claiming to be law enforcement, but the view and the confidence in the system is thus that you look at it like a clown costume? Like, the easier way to explain it is a guy shows up wearing a bat. You're in California. And he has a new californian republic badge sheriff and you're like there's no such thing as the new california republic so you're essentially asking what happens when the government loses legitimacy with the average person when the authorities do what happens when it's split and no one knows fair enough so right now it's very simple to say if the police show up you just you you adhere to the system you get a lawyer
Starting point is 00:51:21 you fight it the best way possible which is in courts. But what if the police start killing people? What if a police officer, what if, I mean, let's just entertain this tunnel that they built allegedly was so that they could keep going to church, to synagogue when they were illegally barred from doing so. We saw in New York, the police were barricading parks, locking them up and shutting down schools. They were spying on schools. There was one video where a guy's restaurant was closed. He had his door open because he was cleaning and a health inspector came in and gave him a fine for being open. He goes, I'm not open. I'm closed. And they were like, your door is open. And he's
Starting point is 00:51:57 like, what? If someone claims they have the authority of government and are violating the law, we cannot advocate that you adhere to a man who's breaking the law that would be telling you to actually be party to lawbreakers but we have seen police break the law under color of law we are we are at this point right now since covid and the questions all the question more seriously is on the southern border federal law enforcement are assisting illegal immigration. They're committing crimes. Yeah, this is why I got to say,
Starting point is 00:52:29 this is why it's so important. Elections matter. Elections have consequences, right? We have to have people in an executive role or in government that are representing us. That's supposed to be representing us. That are looking out for our, and this COVID example rings true in my own community where I
Starting point is 00:52:46 was a mayor and I said, no, I said no to mask mandates, no to vaccine mandates is one of the very few. I had our county authorities call me and say, you need to be enforcing social distancing at your parks and your cops, your city cops, they need to be enforcing mask mandates and handing out fines and i said go pound sand i mean this is this is not and that's what we need to do we need to find people that have exhibited that type of courage and that backbone and and support them in office otherwise we get what we have today i think that i whereas i do think that the point you're making is correct. I think that it is far worse of a situation in that it's not about finding people that are running that have these policies or that are talking about these policies. It's convincing the people that are voting that these are the correct policies. I think that there are people that say, hey, I would do this, I would do that, that are at least pointing in the right direction.
Starting point is 00:53:46 And I feel like the average person has been, again, talking, what we were talking about earlier, what I was mentioning earlier, how the average person has been so indoctrinated by Comedy Central's call on politics that they don't have any understanding of why the policies that they're hoping for won't work at all. They don't have any understanding of why the policies that they're hoping for won't work at all they don't have any understanding of history and and i think that that's the majority of our problem is the people that have the people that that are now in hr departments and in and work in government and stuff like that and and and leading uh in politic political positions in in cities across America, they've all been taught that liberalism is not actually the system that we should be supporting. And so I think we need people, we need a society that values these things. And unless we have that, we can guarantee that they're going to vote for frivolous, ridiculous things that don't work. Yeah, I want to ask you a question about this, because one thing that we're constantly saying on this show,
Starting point is 00:54:47 and one thing I think basically everyone in this sphere is saying nonstop, is that we need people to actually stand up for their values. It's great to have the right ideas. It's fantastic to know what's going on. But ultimately, when push comes to shove, you have to be willing to stand up for them. So I'm curious, what inspired you to actually take a stand and say, we're not doing this mask mandate stuff?
Starting point is 00:55:04 And when did you reach this conclusion? Cause I could just say, personally, when this all first started happening, I want to say for the first like couple of weeks, I was a little nervous, right? And I thought maybe this is something and I will wear a mask, but I want to say by the time we got to April or May, um, I was really not with it anymore. And then I just remember when the media was completely okay with blm rioting and when doctors literally signed a note saying that that was acceptable i went oh it was just nonsense um but yeah i'm curious like at what point did you come to this conclusion and what um inspired you to stick to your guns there because a lot of people weren't a lot of elected leaders were not
Starting point is 00:55:42 no no and sadly that's true um but i think just inherently i knew that this was wrong and uh right away in about march of 2020 uh i went on and said quite uh vociferously that i was opposed to any mask mandates whatsoever and then news came back around uh in may i believe it was of 2020 where i said yet again look i am not going to be utilizing my police department to enforce these things. I think it's heavy handed. This is not constitutional and maintain that stance for, you know, for the entire time. So it is, I think you're absolutely right, Phil, that we have, unfortunately, it's not just certain media channels, but it's the educational system that we have in this country where we have dumbed it down so bad. And more than that, we're actually teaching people the wrong things.
Starting point is 00:56:32 We have so few people that are, I think, economically and civically literate. And that's just unfortunate. Or just literate. I mean, we were talking about this the other day. And I'm not just talking about low reading scores. What I'm saying is with widespread literacy, it seems as if we became satisfied teaching people to be able to sound out letters and then know what the word was
Starting point is 00:56:55 without actually being able to truly comprehend the deeper message of what's being said. This is a typical argument against mass literacy programs that I've heard from- I typical argument against mass literacy programs that i've heard from i'm not against mass literacy programs i just think like they're not real literacy programs we're teaching people like how to sound words out we're not actually teaching them how to really truly read there was this great article i read a long time ago one of the things that played a factor in me not going to college that argued that college is great for the people who've decided
Starting point is 00:57:24 college is the path for them, in that you grow up building computers, and you want to go somewhere where you can learn to build computers better. You have the capability to build computers, and you want to learn from the best. What we did then is we said everyone should go to college no matter what. The problem there is this article said something like you need an average IQ of about 110 to actually go to higher learning. That means you can read and and not just memorize, but actually comprehend the idea that is that is shown to you. And the problem now is by telling everyone to go to college, people of 100 IQ will easily memorize the literature, but not actually understand what it means what ends up happening then is after a few years they'll have this jumbled up confused concept which they think will make them smart
Starting point is 00:58:10 they think they're smarter than everybody they actually have no idea what they're talking about that i think is a good example of what's happening in this country you see a lot of that also you know people will throw this stat around they'll mention like oh yeah to to graduate from college like on average your iq is going to be around 110, 115, but I think that's outdated. I'm almost certain that's not the case anymore. I think the average college grad probably has an IQ of like 105, maybe 100 even. Well, the average IQ is 100. That's the point. No, no, that's what I'm saying. I don't think the average college grad is that far above average anymore. No, I agree. I don't think they're 110, 115. Yeah, I think the issue is often brought brought up we have a lot of midwits in the political space these are people who are slightly
Starting point is 00:58:48 smarter than average but not really smart enough to grasp these these broader concepts and so you end up with uh you know an example would be when uh elise stefanik says I will certify the elect. She's asked, will you commit to certifying the 2024 election? She says, yes, if it's constitutional. And then NBC, because these people are scumbags and they're evil, report Elise Stefanik refuses to commit to certifying the 2024 election. The midwit is the Democrat who then goes, whoa. They understand enough of politics. They read into it, but they're not smart enough to
Starting point is 00:59:25 grasp how they're being manipulated they don't have a minute to think like well wait a minute when should somebody certify election or commit to certifying an election they just like whoa they didn't do the good thing i'll give you they're saying they won't do the good thing salt in cookies did you know that you put salt in your cookies when you make them yes how many people have you ever run into because i've run into a lot where they get mad i've been in numerous occasions where i've been baking cookies and when i put when i pulled the salt out they said don't put salt in what are you doing because they thought you don't put salt in desserts which you literally do wow recipes but there are a lot of yeah those would be terrible yeah knowing those cookies they didn't
Starting point is 01:00:03 put any salt in them yeah but a lot of they don't understand the point of putting salt in food right yeah and so they think cookies have sugar not salt don't put salt in it someone who is smart enough to understand recipes can make cookies but not smart enough to understand that yeah sometimes things sound counterintuitive it goes back to our educational system because they have they don't they don't teach i mean the whole the whole word educate, I think in Greek or Latin is to discover within, right? And that used to be the process. You would go and actually try to become educated. You would learn, you have deductive reasoning, critical, you know, critical reasoning skills. So you would learn not just reading, writing, arithmetic, but you would
Starting point is 01:00:43 learn how to debate somebody, right? You'd have these conversations. I mean, try pulling an average person in on this show and have them just think and debate. I mean, that just, sadly, that's not happening. And I think it's endemic of the educational system that we have today. People just can't think for themselves.
Starting point is 01:00:59 So that is part and parcel what I think you're going to say, that that's really a communist ideology. No, I was actually going to- Just to give somebody, here you go. No, think you're going to say, that that's that's really a communist. I know I was just to give somebody. Here you go. No, I was just going to bring up the fact that man on the street is is a thing that everybody does for a reason, because there are plenty of hilarious people out there. So I want to pull up this this story here is a tweet from Mike Benz. He says, watch this incredible moment that a rep from the Pentagon Psychological Operations
Starting point is 01:01:28 Research Firm pitched NATO's Military PSYOP Center on turning Taylor Swift into an asset for the Western Military Alliance to stop disinformation on the internet.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Excuse me? Well, let me play first the beginning. So the first one that's the most famous and the most common is working with famous people or main influencers to share information, a particular message. Okay, now I'm gonna pause real quick. The image being displayed at SciCon, that's a C-Y-Con, it says identification and
Starting point is 01:02:01 segmentation. In the identification era, it showslor swift and it says goal identify key actors to train and spread desire desired messaging example encourage opinion leaders to share counter io content risk opinion leaders may not want to share content or may accidentally share misleading content let's play more so i include taylor swift in here because are you fucking kidding me so yes mike is clearly uh enjoying that they've included taylor swift in here but i must stress many people have been accusing taylor swift of being a psyop or being in on psychological operations to some degree this is an example being given from what i can see here in this clip, the woman did not say, we literally are working with Taylor Swift. She says, I use Taylor Swift as an example. That being said, what people need to understand about the potential for psychological operations and high-level influencers are in on it.
Starting point is 01:02:59 It's that, you know, who was it? I think I was talking to Seamus about this earlier. We were talking about who's possibly a fed in media yeah we're talking about right apps we have our we have a little um cork board with right tim takes polaroids of people when they do the podcast and we put them on the cork and then we have a bunch of yarn red string we tie around the thumbtack and we're trying to figure it out so we actually don't we did a couple out i think but uh we were talking about who may actually be feds. Let me inform all of you guys.
Starting point is 01:03:28 There are no feds. There are feds. There are federal informants. But the idea that people working in media are secretly federal informants is just absolutely not the case. The idea that Taylor Swift is a handler, I would say, is absolutely not the case. But I will tell you what is very likely the case. I explained this a long time ago, and I'll explain it to you all again. You can go on Google ads and choose to run advertisements of any sort on any channel you
Starting point is 01:03:54 want. So let's say you want a particular kind of political content to be successful. If the CIA or the FBI wanted certain messaging to be dominant in this country, all they would have to do is create a proxy company, go on to Google ads, buy ads at high rates on an individual's channel.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Let's say they're like Freedom Tunes, Seamus's channel, and they say his content he's producing is, well, let's put it this way let's let's let's let's accuse tim cast let's go with tim cast we are anti-establishment but we're not super far right or anything like that we're fairly moderate on the political positions but we're very anti-establishment notice he he had to switch to tim cast to make that point he's like
Starting point is 01:04:39 right because freedom tunes is just too far out there but so the the argument would be this if the federal government liked that for instance after donald trump was defeated by joe biden in the 2020 election and i don't mean fairly i'm quite i'm literally saying biden is in the white house they the feds then go you know look we got a bunch of conservatives over here saying trump won then we got someone like tim pool who almost agrees with them on all these other issues so he's got a big portion of the audience but he is saying joe biden won what do they do nobody emails me nobody comes here knocks on the door and says mr pool we'd like to pay you to say these things for us what they do is they target people who they think have the
Starting point is 01:05:19 message they like buy ads in like indiscriminately and just discreetly on Google. And what I mean is they'll just indiscriminately as in they'll pull up a big thing of people and just throw money at them. And they don't care what you say. They don't ask you to say things. They just funnel money secretly through an automated programmatic system. So when people argue that Taylor Swift is a psyop, they don't need to send someone to ask her to do it. What happens is Taylor Swift makes music.
Starting point is 01:05:49 People like it. Taylor Swift then says, I'm voting for Biden and Kamala Harris. They say, you know, we really like that message. Let's let's use one of our proxy companies to sponsor her next tour and give her a million dollars. That million dollars will go towards her expanding her business. That's the game. Yeah, that's how they run psyops yeah we were talking about this also you gotta remember like it's not as if you have to pay people to believe things that are wrong every time someone says something that another person disagrees with they'll go like you're a grifter
Starting point is 01:06:18 you're only saying that because of their financial incentive as if no one has ever been incorrect about anything because they just came to the wrong conclusion on their own it's like sometimes people just believe things that are wrong in fact it's crazy most of the time people believe things that are wrong right and you don't have to believe that the federal government is paying somebody the reality is we live in a system where people are not encouraged to choose virtue when you're not encouraged to choose virtue you're going to take the path of least resistance as often as possible and that means falling in line with opinions that are more popular because it's difficult to argue for unpopular opinions that's all it is you don't have to fund anybody you don't have to run any kind of like special operation to get pop artists like
Starting point is 01:06:58 come on why does someone become just think about it why does someone become a pop artist why does someone become a famous actor because they want to be liked so as long as the culture says being liked means having these opinions then they're going to have those opinions not enough to blackmail them you don't have to give them money i i i i partly disagree a lot of people who get famous end up not liking being famous and and they quit they try to hide a lot of people who get famous enjoy being famous it's not absolute so when i look at someone like taylor swift i don't know so much that when she was a little kid she she said i wish i was famous other than she made music the music got popular and now she's famous there are certainly people who want nothing but to be famous and what do you see they make up fake garbage on social
Starting point is 01:07:39 media for clicks and likes and that is a lot of people but even even when it's not a pursuit of fame and i'm not saying that there are no famous artists who just believe in their craft but any kind of performance art is going to disproportionately attract people who are attention seeking and want large crowds to like them yeah it's like it doesn't have to be a formal conspiracy anyways people are just doing what they want to do they're doing what's best for them you know there's a much easier psyops conspiracy that we all already know about and i will stress it again the feds don't need to go to any individual creator and offer them money or recruit them and they're secretly cia it's
Starting point is 01:08:15 actually much easier they send a national security letter to facebook and they say we want your algorithm to prop up this kind of content yeah that's it well and. Well, and I think this is man, this kind of content. This is where thing actually, I mean, this is part of where things actually start to get really scary. I remember there was something my dad said to me when I was in high school. I asked him like, do you believe in any conspiracy theories? And he said, no, like the government doesn't need to cover anything up because the media will just call you racist or sexist or homophobic or evil.
Starting point is 01:08:43 If you point out things that are actually happening uh and try to destroy you that way but nowadays that's not working like it used to so they actually do have to interfere in ways that they didn't before because they don't control information as tightly as they used to which is why we saw as tim alluded to the white house communicating with facebook about what kind of information should be allowed on that platform. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is not something that really should come as any kind of surprise. We've talked about it here all the time.
Starting point is 01:09:18 So you're saying that Taylor Swift is working for this? Yeah. Well, I don't know. I don't think that anyone, or I don't think there are actually assets like that i think that the the incentive structures that are built up uh that don't require that and and it's and it's the it's it's the same thing with when it comes to like the deep state right like you don't all the deep state is is your average people that are bureaucrats that don't change when the administration policy. But how cool would it be if Taylor Swift was like at January 6th telling people to riot?
Starting point is 01:09:55 She's down there going like, she's no, no, no. cool would it be if like you know 30 34 years ago two people are recruited by the cia to have a child which would go on to become a pop star to influence and control the minds of the youth and then you've got like seven-year-old taylor swift learning like you know i don't know brazilian jujitsu and like krav maga and then they're like next up will be your piano training and they'd like teach her to sing that's hilarious the whole thing was one big military site to control the world's population getting into isaac getting into the uh donald trump was a uh soviet asset territory all right i just like trump was a soviet attempt to to raise someone but they kind of screwed it up because they had like a lack of you know proper
Starting point is 01:10:41 resources and then trump went rogue and became like a world leader in the other direction i just i i like the idea that taylor swift is like a fed in the sense that people usually call attractive women online feds like she's like in people's dms telling them to commit gun crimes and stuff she's like what if you drilled another hole there are no there are no women online remember that they're all feds every woman online if a woman appears even remotely attractive on the internet she is a fed that's factually true that is true that's the thing that's true about mmorpgs right you'll see like a female character it's just a guy playing a female character that's right it's like women are playing candy crush you know what i mean yeah that's true no that's a fact that's actually true women overwhelmingly play i love these reports where
Starting point is 01:11:21 they're like women now make up 51 of gamers and. And it's like, yeah, but you mean like Candy Crush and Angry Birds. They do. They do. They do usually. That's hilarious. Like how many women are playing Baldur's Gate 3? Like a small percentage. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:11:33 And you know what? Women get so mad. And I'm saying this as a non-gamer, okay? But women get so mad at guys for playing video games. You don't hear guys out here knocking Candy Crush going like, I hate that my girlfriend plays Candy Crush. Candy Crush is fun, dude. But the girls are are like why is he always playing call of duty it's like look at the apps on your own iphone okay look at the games you're playing like every guy those aren't the games they play
Starting point is 01:11:54 they play games remember remember when uh it was fresh and fit they said women don't have hobbies yeah that's true and they were like why would he say that but it's like it's because from a male perspective they don't like women obviously have's because from a male perspective, they don't. Like women obviously have hobbies, but from a male perspective, they don't. So like if I go to a skate park, there's going to be one woman for every 15 or 20 guys. If I go to the poker room, there's going to be one woman for every 15 or 20 guys. When you go to these kinds of things that guys normally do, you don't see that many women. However, I don't know is like getting your hair done in like fashion a hobby some people argue it is and so it's like
Starting point is 01:12:30 what do women enjoy doing it's just not the same as what guys enjoy doing so guys don't see women around all the time well also so this is this is my theory and i think this is actually validated by a lot of the metrics we have like iq for example but i think it applies uh across a wide span of human activities where men either tend to be like really good at things or really bad at things whereas women tend to be more average so again we see this with iq many women have the same average iq but men are more likely to be smart or dumb whereas women are more likely to actually the greater male variability hypothesis exactly and so i think that's why you see men in a lot more of these hobbies
Starting point is 01:13:02 i think men are just more likely to become obsessive over something and get really into it, whereas women are more likely to be normal. Yeah, to generalize. No, it's true. And that's one of the cool things about being a man is like there is this proclivity to just find something you're really interested in and obsess over it. And I think that women have that to a degree for sure,
Starting point is 01:13:23 but it manifests very differently. Let's jump to the important news here. Michelle Obama says she's terrified about potential outcome of 2024 election. She's running. So, uh, the other day, a top strategist for JP Morgan said that Joe Biden will drop out in March following super Tuesday. I believe this makes the most sense as of right now. It doesn't mean it's absolute, but it makes sense. Why? Many people said Joe Biden can't drop out. It's too late to hold a primary. Okay. But that's actually the best thing Democrats could do. Keep Joe Biden in the race until it is too late to hold a primary. Due to a medical issue, he is forced to bow out. And then because they can't have a primary, they get to appoint someone. The DNC does bypassing the potential for Marianne Williamson, RFK Jr. or Cenk Uygur stopping them from winning the nomination.
Starting point is 01:14:11 In this instance, with this story emerging of Michelle Obama now popping up and saying she's concerned about the outcome of 2024, I think there's a is a really great opportunity right now to put a wager on Michelle Obama winning the Democrat nomination or being the nominee against Donald Trump because. Well, she's terrified about the potential outcome of 2024. Where does that story go? And why is she being asked? Exactly. Because in one month, she says, my fear of what's to come in 2024 is so great. I feel like I must do something about it. A month after that, Joe Biden stumbles and falls.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Michelle Obama says, my greatest fear has been realized. Our great leader, Joe Biden, has fallen ill. Someone tied his shoes together and he tripped and now he can't be president anymore. A month later, she says, I must do my duty to prevent my greatest fear from coming to fruition. I must run for the presidency. Yeah, exactly. It's self-sacrificing. And every politician has to have a narrative like this. We saw this with Joe Biden. The reason I ran for president was because of Charlottesville. I saw what happened on television. And I said, I need to run. I need to, I saw Charlottesville happening and said, I need to be the one running this country. It's
Starting point is 01:15:22 like, all right, Joe, but that's the story that he went with and they all try to have their own little origin story uh and so this is clearly hers she said i'm just so nervous about what's happening donald trump he's a criminal they're gonna let this man be president if she runs i think she wins do you really think so i would i would have thought that um a year or so ago i'm not as convinced you are blackfilled man i know i mean look at she's gonna she to go. You think she wins the general election? Yeah, she she goes and she sits down with Oprah. And then like all your soccer moms, all your wine moms are voting for. I mean, the only people that won't vote for her are people that have actual grievance.
Starting point is 01:15:59 So the people that are really PO about things, the people that have kids that have dealt with uh lgbt issues at schools those people are not going to switch because uh because she's running but people that are just people that are lightly involved in politics that are middle that are middle class that that generally aren't feeling the effects of the economy or inflation yeah i i i i disagree for one simple reason these liberal minded suburban moms i don't think would vote for a black woman i think they're the reason they believe dei stuff is because they're overtly racist i believe that the only way you end up with someone preaching about racism but then actually pushing for segregation like i saw in
Starting point is 01:16:39 sweden is that they're deeply racist and they're trying to prove they're not. But in private, they're going to be as racist as they can be. Look at all of these liberal personalities who say racist things behind closed doors and they get busted for it or whatever. I shouldn't say all these, but numerous stories over the past few years and sexist things as well. I'd be willing to bet all of these liberal Democrat wine mobs in the suburbs would be like, oh yeah, I'll vote for Michelle Obama. And then would be like, oh, yeah, I'll vote for Michelle Obama. And then privately, but no way I'm doing that. I'm voting for Donald Trump.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Tina Fey in 30 in 30 in 30 Rock. I was going to say third from the sun in 30 Rock, not the alien one, said in the first season, I tell my friends I voted for Barack Obama, but I secretly voted for John McCain. I think a lot of people will claim they're voting for Michelle Obama and then they'll be shocked when it's actually a narrow race and she doesn't do as well as people think. Not to mention, I don't think that the nostalgia factor is going to play as well as they would hope. Joe Biden came in, he trashed everything. And the issue now is it's not even necessarily about the person. It's about the party. Joe Biden as a Democrat, the Democrats have done so poorly that Michelle Obama could run and she'll
Starting point is 01:17:45 do better than biden that's a fact but i don't know if it's enough to overcome trump's success in the polls right now yeah also i think one massive uh mistake that the democrats have made over the past two years is they've actually turned parents into a voting block in a way that we've never seen before they've been like well you know i just want to let you know, if you're against porn being shown to children in schools, you're a big, bad, far right extremist. And then a bunch of parents went, all right, well, I guess I'm a big, bad, far right extremist then, because I would rather be that than allow you perverts to groove my children. And here we are.
Starting point is 01:18:20 No, you're both wrong. She'll win. You think so? Oh, yeah i i do i and and that's not obviously clearly like i'm not like endorsing michelle obama the like i'm in i'm endorsing at least until the primary i'm like i'm gonna vote for the the vague in the primary because he's the guy that's talking about cutting government most whoever is talking about cutting the government most is who i'm gonna vote for i don't know man i think you're endorsing Michelle.
Starting point is 01:18:45 You really seem to want her to win. Well, anyways, you can think that. It's cute. I like to think here that Tim is right. I would love it. I would love it. I would like to be wrong. This is not some kind of thing where I'm like, oh, man, this is what I'm hoping for.
Starting point is 01:19:00 I would love to be wrong. But like I said, I am blackpilled as hell on what the American people want. Because I don't see, as much as we're seeing pushback against the people that are complaining about Palestine and protesting and stuff, I don't see enough pushback from your normal people for me to be like, oh, the general consensus is not the left-leaning consensus. It's like the Soma of life and everything. It's just so much. There's just nothing really pushing them to really feel like hey i'm going to do something about this hey i'm going to stand up and say something i think i don't know i'm traveling around even in my own
Starting point is 01:19:31 state i'm seeing people that are just being crushed by binomics and inflation and it's the constant talk i've done over 50 town halls and what what you just said i think rings true that people are just so fed up with democrats and Democratic leadership and the lack thereof and how worse off they are today than they were under President Trump. I hear that a lot. I hope there's enough of them. I hope so, too. But that is an interesting thought or comment about how people are, so many Democrats are innately racist themselves. Oh, I mean.
Starting point is 01:20:02 And we saw that with, you just made me think of the immigrants that they flew to Martha's Vineyard. Right. Right. Exactly. And to see how quickly within, what was it, 24 hours, they just went ahead and.
Starting point is 01:20:13 So there was that Yale study several years ago that found liberals drop their vocabulary level when speaking to black people. That's right. And conservatives do not. Yeah. And that's, it's really obvious why. Democrats, well, they've always been racist i mean it's quite literally their party platform since the early days but they're like hey we switched the kind of racism that we have
Starting point is 01:20:35 yeah they're still racist and so if you have your average liberal who encounters a black person and then tries to sound stupid on purpose it's crazy they're basically saying they think black people are stupid whereas conservatives just talk to them like normal people because they just think they're normal people it's really you think a person who who does that is going to look at michelle obama and think that's the person they want to lead the country they may publicly act like they oppose racism but from their own actions they show that they actually look down on minorities and when it comes to the private decision making process they're gonna brag to
Starting point is 01:21:10 the high heavens i just voted for michelle i actually voted for trump but i'm not telling my friends that because i'll get made fun of they're gonna vote for trump yeah now the challenge i think trump has with a lot of these women though is that he's like nasty a lot of these liberal democrat women's are like he grosses me out and so they're going to be put to the test of whether or not to be more racist or disgusted and whether or not like what which will play a bigger role i gotta be honest i think many of these democrats are so racist they would say well i'm disgusted by trump but they'd vote for him because that's how racist i think they are that they wouldn't want to vote for
Starting point is 01:21:43 michelle and i'm not saying every single one what we see in the data from this study is that a a decent amount of liberals will lower their vocabulary level yeah when talking to black people because they assume black people are stupid i mean look at the voter id thing amy horowitz with one of the greatest political videos ever made have you seen this one yeah he goes around asking black people he goes to berkeley and he says do you think voter id is racist like yeah of course because black people don't know how to get the internet and can't get ids and then he just goes to black neighbors in new york and he's like do you have an id and they're like yeah and he's like do you have the internet and i love this teenage this like 20 year old guy's like what do you mean
Starting point is 01:22:19 even a 13 year old kid's got the internet yeah my favorite though was when he asks the guy one of the berkeley kids says they don't that it's hard for them to get to the dmv they don't know where it is and then he asks his older black guys like can i ask you a question do you know where the dmv is and he goes yeah it's over there on 26 he's gonna go down here you make a left like the guy was asking for directions it was such a stupid question to ask a guy he assumed the guy needed help finding it yeah dude it's it's hilarious those people are gonna vote for michelle yeah right i mean a lot of these i mean they might because it'll make them feel
Starting point is 01:22:49 better about themselves and absolve themselves of their like racism but what is hilarious to me is that you know so for example like as a voice actor someone who does voices for cartoons they'll say about me and other voice actors like you could never do a black voice but then every time they talk to a black person they try to do this weird impression of how black people speak and this is exactly what that study's talking about they'll do that they'll like start using black slang and they'll as the studies literally show they will use a dumbed down vocabulary it's like this is insanely insulting and then you get bent out of shape over like a comedian doing an impression of a black person as a joke when you're actually trying to do it in real life because you think that's how you should communicate with another
Starting point is 01:23:31 group of people so i won so there are times when i'm on tour where i have to go on vocal rest i'm not allowed to talk right so like people walk in the room and i can't say anything everyone must hate that it's super annoying it's the most annoying thing in the world but people constantly come up and they don't know how to talk because i can't talk to them and what the and so what they start doing is they start whispering or they try to sign i'm like and it's like i'm the one that can't talk dummy and i wonder if that's the same kind of thing they think that the person they're interacting with is is unable to so they try if that if it's the same kind of thing they think that the person they're interacting with is is unable to so they try if that if it's the same kind of like uh um not like they're not thinking about it
Starting point is 01:24:10 it's the same kind of reaction so anyways that's i just thought it was funny yeah no absolutely that's that's hilarious it's funny how if you like focus on race and make that into everything you think about and every only thing that even matters eventually it becomes the only thing you think about and the only thing that even matters so it can't be yeah it can't be any other way like that if you are constantly thinking about the point of like there was there's there was all that talk about critical race theory the point of critical race theory was to awaken a critical racial consciousness so that way people would see things through the lens of a racial power dynamic all the time yeah that was the whole point and so people were all focused about oh you know they're not teaching critical race theory blah blah blah in schools but what they were teaching people what they were teaching kids was to see everything in a racialized way and that
Starting point is 01:25:06 creates racism and that's what happens you don't say not just in and not just uh in a racialized way but there's an irony there it's called critical race theory but there's only one race you're allowed to be critical of right it's literally it's just white people bad that's all well i mean that's the way that it pans out here but it what it is is it's just marxist powers and power dynamics right so here it's white people but when it was used in we've talked about the cultural revolution when it was when it was used in the cultural revolution in china it was han chinese were the dominant ethnicity and so it was han privilege and all the stuff that we're seeing here all the the the focus on race it was all already done in China with different ethnicities that your average Westerner wouldn't know.
Starting point is 01:25:49 They wouldn't know the particulars about the ethnicities in China. But there are a lot of different ethnicities, and the same kind of power dynamics were used to justify oppressing the majority that had wealth and stuff like that. So it's not new and it's the more we can can reveal these things to people these these these you know similarities with some of the most horrible ideologies in human history the more the you know the better it's going to be but we have a big job in front of us yeah i mean and it's no surprise that somebody tried this right when it comes to the division that they've stoked between the races because the fact that americans of all different ethnicities and races got along as well as they did in the united states is is just unbelievable it's never been perfect but for a good chunk of
Starting point is 01:26:38 time over the past few decades it's pretty much been better than anywhere in the entire world where multiple ethnicities have been in one place yes including ethnicities that are really really similar whereas in the united states we have ethnic and racial groups that are are far more different than those other ones are where we see far more conflict and so it's a miracle that we were able to get things working as well as we did and so it's no shock it's no shock that someone trying to upset the system would come in and sow those seeds of discord. Because it's a lot easier to destroy something like that than it is to build something like that. It actually, it offers the amount of racial and ethnic harmony that existed in the United States offers a tremendous opportunity for evil people to upset the system.
Starting point is 01:27:22 Because that doesn't exist anywhere else. So it has to be really easy to tear down yeah and and the the the way that it's it's you go about it is by attacking the things that transcend race which are the the fundamental principles that are that make americans yeah that make that makes america americans it is first of all liberalism right like so all of these are beingerving liberalism. I want to get that point home because you're conserving liberalism. I think people forget that all the time. You're conserving
Starting point is 01:27:52 liberalism. The biggest problem right now that's going on that we have is that the progressives have convinced the Democrats, the liberal Democrats, that they are not liberal. They have convinced them that progressive policies, which are based on racial, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:09 based on race or based on sex or based on identity, that are prohibited, specifically prohibited by the Civil Rights Act, that these are continuations of the Civil Rights Act when they actually fly in the face of the Civil Rights Act. The people that were marching during the Civil Rights Act in the 60 fly in the face of the Civil Rights Act. The people that were marching during the Civil Rights Act in the 60s, they held signs that said,
Starting point is 01:28:29 I am a man. The point was they wanted to be seen as a human being. And Jim Crow laws treated them as less than humans. And now the focus is on I am black or I am this minority, which means don't see me for my humanity, which it is 100%. It is 180 degrees from everything the civil rights movement was focused on.
Starting point is 01:28:54 The civil rights movement was intended to be liberal because it was intended to treat people based on their humanity. And everything you hear now is based on race and identity and that it flies in the face of liberalism and it is fly it flies in the face of the fundamental principles that the united states is based on facts man you know yeah um man here here dude here i couldn't say better 100 i think another reason why that's that happens is because it's a system of control yes if they can have and and create identity politics and tribalism the way that they have you know we got to get this group against that group it goes back to democracy yes much easier to divide you've got these uh many you know these groups that are
Starting point is 01:29:37 everywhere pitted against each other you can you can control them much more effectively yeah great time to be talking about this mlk rest in peace the time we talk about this thing is free or day is the actual holiday is did anyone know off the top of their head mlk day is what day it's on the 16th 16th okay right yeah yeah 15th or 16th yeah anyways good time to bring it up but yeah i mean the the the the efforts that are are being undertaken the point is to tear at the foundation of the united states we we talk about uh um you know how they change the language and how they change the meaning of words i mentioned this the other night there's the effort to do land dedications the the the impulse to do that that's all a terrible idea because it it gives credibility to the legitimacy of the idea that the land is
Starting point is 01:30:27 stolen now throughout history there has been conquered people throughout history that's the way you know countries have been formed and stuff and when you when you cast the creation of the united states in the light of illegitimate that that means that all property in the united states is now stolen property and that means that the property in the United States is now stolen property. And that means that the Fourth Amendment doesn't protect it. It doesn't, the takings clause doesn't, like, it's all up for grabs. Once you change the meaning of words,
Starting point is 01:30:54 all of the laws that we have, if the meanings of the words change, all of those laws, they're all nothing more than a memory. Because they're based on ideas. Yeah. You change the words, the definition of the word, and you change the idea fundamentally. So, yeah, totally agree.
Starting point is 01:31:08 And again, this also ties into the idea of what Mao did, where he'd be destabilizing on purpose, and then be that stabilizing force. It gives legitimacy to them. Again, it's all about legitimizing their claim to power, which is questionable at best a lot of times. Yeah. How could you guys say something like that? Hey.
Starting point is 01:31:24 On stolen land. You know sickening no that that argument was always so ridiculous to me it's like okay it was like how can you have justice on stolen land it's like i guess we can't have justice anywhere ever ever literally forever everything has been stolen so uh i just left the room yeah i am now back in the room. Our flight tonight was canceled. Oh. Because the blizzards in the Midwest are intense. And the roads are basically shut down. So we got this jet waiting for us. And they said they can't do it. So the bad news is this means that here's the plan.
Starting point is 01:32:01 We're going to try again at 10 a.m. to fly out. But that means I'm going to have, I'm not going to be able to record my morning show as normal. Oh man. But there's a solution. I just have to wake up at 6 a.m. and record segments early and try and just record maybe, you know, because I normally record them in an hour,
Starting point is 01:32:21 but it's over several hours of doing research and pulling up news stories and reading a lot. So they may be what I would describe as lesser segments like more cultural stories where i'm commenting on like a tiktok video or something and then just get like three or four segments cranked out at like 6 a.m so we can make a 10 a.m flight which means we will we will keep the uncensored members only show tonight a little bit shorter than we normally would in that uh maybe just a half an hour tonight instead of 50, 45,
Starting point is 01:32:46 50 minutes. Okay. So I can get to bed and wake up early. And then we got to fly to Des Moines, Iowa. That 10 AM tomorrow morning. Oh, this is so brutal.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Hey, I heard Des Moines is great this time of year. I mean, they got a blizzard and, uh, but, uh, I think I'm really excited for this event that we're doing.
Starting point is 01:33:03 This, uh, Vivek town hall is very, very important very important for everything that's going on. So we're going to have to figure out how to make it work. And I can sleep when I'm dead. Yeah. The plan is going to be we'll, you know. That's what I've been saying with this campaign.
Starting point is 01:33:17 I can sleep in six months. That's right. I'll just wait. You got to get the grind. Keep going. Wake up. Get it done. Anyway, now that we're back, let's go to Super Chat. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? Subscribe to this channel. get the grind. Keep going. Wake up. Get it done. Anyway, now that we're back, let's go to Super Chat.
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Starting point is 01:34:31 That being said, smash that like button. Let's read what y'all got to say. Clint Torres is back. He says, howdy people. He has, of course, won the first place position by being the first Super Chat. Jose Alfredo Diaz says, first, sorry, sir, you are second.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Straight Common Sense Asian says, me for a super chat jose alfredo diaz says first sorry sir you are second straight common sense asian says so happy to see you on my favorite newscast you better nail it your wife next appointment depends on it haha i know exactly who that is we'll just shout out to hung he's uh the great the great happy uh happy design nail salon in in my city and where my wife goes constantly. And so he is a huge, huge fan. That's great. All right. I'm just checking on the flights here because. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Oh, this is going to be so brutal. Things change fast too. I know. But we're doing big stuff this year. It's going to be a big year and we got a bunch of big of big shows planned uh we've got uh don jr is going to be coming on the show this week while we're in des moines because you know everybody's trying to get their last minute pitches in for the caucus and it's going to be really really great all right here we go jacob parody says did anybody see jp morgan's 10 shockers 2024 well the one i can
Starting point is 01:35:42 mention is that joe biden drops out there were a couple others that i didn't really care that much about i don't know if you guys read the full list but i'm sure there's something in there that's probably more interesting or or it could be interesting right all right western body says second vote early vote uh second vote early vote often yes raymond g stanley jr says simple question need only simple answers there's no need for all the meaningless hoopla that makes you sound not confident with your answer that's right yeah today uh in the arguments uh in the in the trump appeal on immunity i'm really i'm really frustrated with trump's lawyer trying to like the judge said to the lawyer,
Starting point is 01:36:28 if the president committed an assassination and ordered SEAL Team 6 to do it, you're saying that they could not be prosecuted if they weren't impeached. The answer to that is correct. I'm saying that they cannot be impeached. Instead, the lawyer is like, no, it's qualified, qualified. Yes. I mean, if he's impeached and the judge is like, let me try again. Now, it is annoying the way the judges are asking questions. But if you're making a point, it's just as simple. No, the president cannot be criminally charged or indicted unless he has been impeached and convicted. Next question.
Starting point is 01:37:00 It's that simple. All right. The silence says, first, no sir you are you're very very off sorry he says watch chainsaw man peak anime i've i've heard of it i've watched it's good i'm actually just re-watching yuhaku show oh you like ghost detective well of course but uh netflix made a live version which is just so awful i'm not even gonna watch it it's only five episodes and it tries to condense too many like elements of the whole show into one it's really funny because he like for no reason goes to get trained by genkai and then he's there for literally 10 minutes out
Starting point is 01:37:37 of the show but then he's like no when she dies and it's just like what it just doesn't work sorry your live action yuhaku shit does not work but the actual show itself was awesome yeah true all right where we at what do we have zachary mccoy says why will people say there's no good candidates with this biden trump election again but not even consider vivek we are doomed i i seriously it's it's fascinating to me that vivek is not Trump in terms of character and candor. He's America first. But you have these people like, I'm going to vote for Nikki Haley.
Starting point is 01:38:11 I wouldn't vote for Trump. And it's like, well, then why would you vote for Vivek? America first, protect the economy, real business experience. I think it's because I like him. You're turning everybody off. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Poor Vivek. You know, he tells the truth. And then the media lies about him. it's because i like him you're turning everybody off yeah you know yeah poor vivek you know he tells the truth and then the media lies about him but that's what that's what they do that's
Starting point is 01:38:31 what they do with everybody exactly if vivek went up on stage and said january 6th was an inside job he goes up on stage and he goes it's looking more like january 6th is an inside job and i want to fund the military industrial complex to blow up foreign countries and CNN would be like, he's completely right about everything. He's correct. January 6th was an inside job. More money for the military industrial complex. But the moment he says we shouldn't be engaging in foreign wars and providing all this foreign funding, they're like
Starting point is 01:38:55 he's crazy. It's the worst. Yep. Alright. Matthew Rose says, Tim, Jews and tunnels sounds like some world war ii ish that's actually a really great point yeah if it is true that the reason they built the tunnel and i heard this is because the city locked down places of worship illegally and unconstitutionally and they were fighting for their right to worship they were in the right to do so and they did so
Starting point is 01:39:20 non-violently i can respect that now i do have concerns about the structural integrity of the building so you know digging tunnels underground can be very dangerous and also i just want to say um to to all my catholics on behalf of all the other catholics we are slacking like they have tunnels where are our catacombs where are the catacombs under the large cities that catholics live in no stephen bortmay says, here is some money, some spoon money, Tim. I hear they keep going missing for some reason. Hey, Seamus. Hey, how's it going? You know, so this morning,
Starting point is 01:39:53 we have these little mugs that we got from REI. They're like a thermos, but they're mugs. Yeah, what about them? And, oh, I have one and Allison has one. Yeah, those are nice. And Allison uses hers because when she pours her coffee in it, you can're mugs. Yeah, what about them? And, oh, I have one and Allison has one. Yeah, those are nice. And Allison uses hers because when she pours her coffee in it, you can put a lid on it, and it's not quite a thermos, but it's a mug that keeps things warm.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Well, hers was gone this morning. That's weird. And she was wondering where it went. And she noticed that this strange thing keeps happening where mugs from our kitchen keep appearing in the studio building. That is weird. As if someone is taking our mugs, who kitchen keep appearing in the studio building that is as if someone is taking our mugs who's staying at our house and then walking out with them walking to the studio
Starting point is 01:40:31 while drinking the coffee and then leaving it in the other kitchen that's really weird it is very strange yeah i wonder why that's happening it must be a ghost um i think you probably should get paranormal investigators or at least just check the security camera footage on the property for sure the only the only explanation is that a ghost is making coffee and then carrying the cups into the studio. And perhaps the ghost is in the room right now with us. Yeah, he's only been here for like the last two or three days. Two or three days. That would be a little bit scary.
Starting point is 01:40:55 Why would the ghost get here when I got here? I know. The ghost must be following you. Do you really think so? Yes, perhaps. It's a ghost, Seamus. Dude, I don't even want to think about that. That's freaking me out.
Starting point is 01:41:07 That's freaking me out. In other words, Seamus is stealing our mugs. What? Hold on, that's where you were going with that? Are you... That's ridiculous. Hold on a second. We don't actually have any evidence that any of this happened.
Starting point is 01:41:18 Alice, I would never... I look out my window and see Seamus drinking coffee and walking up the hill. Listen, you guys know me. I would never do that. I would never do something like that. You know me. You guys know me. The funny thing about the spoons thing was that it was like three spoons.
Starting point is 01:41:34 It was like three spoons. And I didn't even take that. And Seamus is the one who turned it into this big meme because he wanted attention from. No, that never even happened. I didn't take anything. You guys know me. You know I wouldn't do that. So what actually happened is like, Allison noticed that some spoons were not in the kitchen.
Starting point is 01:41:49 She's like, oh, there's some spoons. They're not, like, do you think Seamus has them downstairs? Yeah. And then Seamus comes up and Allison was like, oh, did you bring spoons? And I was like, oh, I'll grab them. And then he walks up with like three and puts them in the sink.
Starting point is 01:41:58 And then Seamus goes, there's an Irish man living under my house, stealing my spoons. Why would I say that? Why would I say that when i never took your spoons that's so offensive towards towards me and my irish man living under my house stealing my spoons seamus made that up and then when we all laughed at it seamus denied it ever i would never do that anyway it's not true tim said i made a secret tunnel under his house
Starting point is 01:42:21 to steal spoons i'm like what is this were you just like it's called stairs what are you talking he's like i heard people speaking irish under my apartment i have no basement i don't know where this is i saw an irishman coming out of the ground in front of my house i smacked the camera yeah and then runs zach ayasi says be safe in your travels tonight most of our roads here in iowa are listed as mostly covered uh to travel not advised as i'm getting ready for work well the crew said they will not fly and uh so we're gonna fly first thing in the morning and i'm just groaning like it's so expensive we just like we can't cancel it and you know so uh we're talking with the crew and figure things out but i'm gonna wake up at six in the morning and try and record as much as i can
Starting point is 01:43:02 to have some segments up and then, you know, it just... Mitch the Engineer says, Tim, can I get a birthday shout out? Also, does anyone know if... Ian, chicken sounds. Also, does anyone know if the Ray Epps judge
Starting point is 01:43:17 oversaw any of the rest of the J6 trials maybe have grounds for an appeal? I don't know if you can appeal based on determinations of different judges like that. But happy birthday mitch the engineer yeah happy birthday all right
Starting point is 01:43:29 where are we at let's see uh fat haravsky says looks like trump has the perfect defense with ray epps would you agree no because trump does not want to argue he in any way incited anybody to go into the Capitol. So if he says, I incited people, but look, you can't criminally charge me, then he's just admitting what they want him to admit. Yeah, I think just to the contrary, right? I mean, he said many times, peacefully go up to the Capitol. I don't think there's any evidence that he's never been convicted of conspiracy of insurrection, charged, convicted, nothing. And yet he's going through all of this right now. Yep.
Starting point is 01:44:10 That's where I love Vivek. I got to say he is. He's phenomenal. I mean, I went out when I got endorsed by Charlie Kirk. I was able to meet him. Brilliant, brilliant guy. Oh, yeah. Absolutely brilliant guy.
Starting point is 01:44:21 Donald Trump. I have endorsed because I can see what's going on the deep state what we've talked about here um i mean there's so much going on where he has exhibited that strength to stand up and push back uh that is exactly what we need right now the vape needs to stay in this race because they're doing everything they can to remove trump from it and if something happens the next few months months where Donald Trump is removed from the primary, we are going to be very grateful that we have the vague as an option in the primary. Now, I don't know what that means in terms of voting for Trump, but this is going to
Starting point is 01:44:53 get really wild. And we are looking at 1860 levels of like election. OK, electioneering and election history for candidates in the election in 1860. We could be looking at four candidates this time around. Let's say Donald Trump is booted from the ballot. So he announces, I'm still running. You can't stop me. He runs as an independent.
Starting point is 01:45:17 The Republican primary is defaulted through this process to Nikki Haley. Then RFK Jr. runs independent and Joe Biden or Michelle Obama. You have four candidates. And what happens? Trump easily wins that four way race. No question. And the only way Trump does win if it is if it is split three ways like that, Trump's base is massive. It's like 40 percent of the GOP. They will write Trump in. He will lose 60 percent of that vote, but it will be split among RFK Jr. In a tiny degree, Nikki Haley will not get as much as people think. Michelle Obama may get a bunch, but I think Trump wins the plurality in that regard.
Starting point is 01:45:54 And that will be a strong justification Democrats will use for either some kind of secession or rebellion because they'll say, Donald Trump is the president but only won 29 of the vote we'll see though victor gordon says casper should work on creamers to pair with the coffees and i just got my first order today love it you know i i i'm sorry man like appalachian nights the casper uh blend that we made like we got the samples we tried it out it was my idea i said here's what i think would be really good we'll try it it is the best coffee i've ever had no question it's a dark roast it's a blend that we came up with and uh it's just man once you drink appalachian nights i'm sorry man it'll ruin coffee for you it's so good yeah seriously that good as long as you brew it right but i'm really excited for the alex stein's primetime grind uh two times caffeine
Starting point is 01:46:44 that we just put out. A lot of people are talking about how they like certain double caffeine blends and now they have an option from Cast Brew. Ian's blend is going to be a low acidity blend. So we're looking at coffees with low acidity to create the perfect coffee
Starting point is 01:46:59 that is low acidity and that's going to be Ian's graphene dream. Yes, and that actually should be coming Ian's graphene dream. Yes. And that actually should be coming out in a few weeks. We're really excited for the bags. Looks so cool. I mean, Jessica, such an amazing artist, the graphene style bag and everything. And we're like, we're really excited for this.
Starting point is 01:47:20 Ian says, let's hope the judges come to the conclusion presidents can be charged. Then every conservative D.A. can file against Joe and demand he be arrested. Yeah, but come on. You know, they're not gonna yeah it's just too lazy they're gonna be like oh geez what do i do you're you're you're um yeah you're you're ain't whoa presumed yeah i did cut out there your point presumes that anyone in republican politics at that level is useful i'm gonna i'm gonna put you here on the spot good sir running for the senate yeah should uh does the second amendment protect the right of children to keep in bare arms protect the right of children to keep their arms well i would think it it is it is applicable to every u.s citizen so yes you are correct uh particularly in most states they actually have codified the laws as it pertains
Starting point is 01:48:05 to children keeping and bearing arms that means uh this requires parental supervision or some kind of permitting process but it is protected so we saw this with the rittenhouse case where uh the argument was he's not old enough to keep and bear arms ah but the provision actually says you can be under the age of majority and keep and bear arms for specific reasons. And if you actually go back in time, you can see where this applies very easily. A 13-year-old kid would be given a rifled musket to go out on the hunt with the father. And so in most circumstances, children can bear arms so long as they're accompanied by their parents. And that makes sense. The next question, put you on the spot.
Starting point is 01:48:40 Does the Second Amendment protect the right of private persons to keep and bear nuclear weapons, weapons of mass destruction, and warships? I'm going to say no. The answer is yes. Nuclear weapons. Raytheon, Boeing, Lockheed Martin are private entities and private persons as per the U.S. tax law and code. And they're the ones who build our warships and our missiles and our weapons. So, yes, private persons, as per U.S. law, do keep and bear weapons of war and mass destruction.
Starting point is 01:49:11 So typically private persons to include corporations. Yes. But it also does mean individuals, individuals, because the only reason it's a corporation is because the amount of wealth required to do such a thing. And you're going to want to limit your liability. You know, it's like if you're if you're a private person, you're not going to be like I like i as my sole proprietorship i'm going to build a hellfire missile because you'll be very much responsible personally in all your assets but um you know i've asked a lot of uh conservative politicians and liberal politicians and they always say no and i'm just like who do you think's making our bombs it's private corporations yes you can fill out ffls and say you're building a nuke so it's it's it's always been the case that the second amendment protected the right of uh citizens don't cannons warships etc i love i love that factoid because
Starting point is 01:49:50 it's actually quite simple it sounds more complicated and trickier than it is if someone thinks it sounds unreasonable you just say like lockheed martin and raytheon are private entities as per u.s law they're not they're not the government regulated and permitted and all that stuff of course of. But they have missiles. So there you go. It's always been the case, huh? Privateers and Corsairs, etc. All right, let's read some more.
Starting point is 01:50:13 Paul Tascolo says, Tim, I own a private jet charter company, Vault Aviation. I'll donate $2,500 to a charity of your choice for the opportunity to quote your next trip. PS, be prepared to pay a $5,000 plus de-ice fee on your Iowa flight today. Oh, don't you know it? Don't I know it?
Starting point is 01:50:30 Absolutely. So the cost of this trip is very, very expensive. It is absurdly expensive. Plus, we've got the deadhead, the storage of the plane while we're in Iowa because it's got to fly us back. And because we're flying back Monday night, it's brutal. then of course we have de-icing fees now we may dodge de-icing because um we're flying tomorrow and it's going to be sunny and cold so um we likely will still have i think when we're leaving we may be okay depending based on the weather but uh you know we'll see yeah probably gonna have some kind of de-icing fee. I think it's probable, but we may dodge it.
Starting point is 01:51:05 But Vault Aviation, let me write that down right now. And we'll take a note of this. I'm writing it down. Yeah, you know, I hope we're able to make it. It'd be really, really cool if we can. If not, you know, we'll make the best of it. We'll still have some awesome shows. so uh it's it's it's brutally expensive i mean uh it's it's it's not been this i'll just say this we started uh flying uh private because it's the only way we can do
Starting point is 01:51:40 some of these shows and make them happen and i'm not some you know cringe climate change bleeding heart i i don't mind flying private don't complain about it uh but the price i've been going up substantially and it's crazy you know it's like we we're we're getting a private jet for for one trip where we're doing a big show and it can seat eight or nine people and the cost is usually like with if you're flying your crew out there it, it's basically twice the cost of first class. Would we give every employee first class? No, but it's like, oh man, the amount of time you save. If we're going to fly crew out and I put them on a commercial jet and the jet gets delayed or the baggage gets damaged, we can't set up the show. We're screwed.
Starting point is 01:52:21 So it's basically like, welcome to the PJ, ladies and gentlemen, because we're all going to get there on time. We're going to set the show up. We're going to build the studio out. It's a lot of work. We're not going to get any sleep. It's going to be a little bit more expensive than usual, but we're going to have a great show and it's going to matter. That's right. That's what it's all about. All right.
Starting point is 01:52:38 TRD says, didn't AOC confirm or allude to Capitol personnel aiding protesters in regards to J6 to alex stein play the video well we don't have the video pulled up but you are correct she did yeah aoc said why were police helping them yeah well it's an inside job according to aoc according to cnn according to joe scarborough so i think it's a case closed all right monk in training says i'm jewish was this tunnel in brooklyn the hasidus is there that rabbi was a dynamic leader and polyglot.
Starting point is 01:53:09 The idea that he's the Messiah is fringe in the US, but popular in the Hasidic sect everywhere else on Earth. Really? Interesting. That's interesting. But he died, what, 30 years ago? Yeah, it was the 94. 94. what 30 years ago uh yeah it was the 94 94 hmm kida says today poland president harbored two politicians who were sentenced for two years for s by sc for corruption
Starting point is 01:53:32 they refused to leave the presidential palace after eight hours of standoff the police finally went in and executed the arrest very interesting also uh ecuador is in civil war i think yep yep crazy a bunch of armed gunmen stormed a tv station dude guys i mean we should have pulled it up i guess let's talk about this in the members only yeah watch these videos about what happens when social order breaks down you're like i can't believe a bunch of armed gunmen in t-shirts stormed into a television broadcast pointing guns at people it's that quick humans can do
Starting point is 01:54:06 human stuff man the human human rules matter little it's all confidence the rabbi access seamus i was literally taught how to read hebrew in hebrew school rabbi was completely unconcerned if we knew what we were reading just how fast and good sounding it was i can't even read it now wow that means he was he was more concerned than the average public school teacher is with ensuring students can read in english yeah yeah that's crazy but that's interesting because that was one thing i always admired one thing that always made me sad is that catholics stopped teaching their kids to to read and speak in latin i think that was that's a massive loss i wish i was taught that as a child so i always thought it was cool that that hebrews still did that it's uh interesting
Starting point is 01:54:45 to learn though that many of them don't care because that's one of the three sacred languages right um latin hebrew and greek steel toad says preserve them when an extremely smart individual turns their intellect to activism they focus that intellect to that desired outcome positive or nefarious they will focus on that objective you know i think there's an important thing to mention when it comes to intelligence when we we talk about race and intelligence, there's this like liberal offense that's taken by it that people could have different intelligence averages based on their race. I think that's stupid because it presupposes that intelligence is better than other characteristics without actually addressing any other characteristics of any other race. The assumption there is that intelligence is the most prized attribute
Starting point is 01:55:30 of humanity. And I don't think that's correct. I certainly think it's fairly obvious when I went to Thailand and it was on Chinese New Year. And when I went to this big market, you know what I saw? Over the heads of every person because be me being 5 10 5 10 and a half mind you uh the average height in thailand was lower it was like 5 6 5 7 so when i'm standing there i'm actually taller than everybody i'm like wow this is this is really interesting yes this racial group has a slight difference in uh in their in their in their builds i went to sweden and i was short even the women are six feet tall in sweden me too yeah but uh there was a discussion from sam harris i think it was sam harris and i think it was um a handful of other idw people talking about that it's not as extreme
Starting point is 01:56:19 as as the media might make it seem when making these arguments, but there's likely a genetic component in, uh, intelligence as well as every other attribute. But that is not to say that it determines the capabilities of an entire racial group. Like if you, if you take the, if you take,
Starting point is 01:56:38 if you argue that Koreans have IQs, but then you raise this kid in a civil war with no food. Yeah. They're going to be developmentally stunted. If you, if you bring anyone from any other country and give them the the internet tutors wealth and access they're going to be one of the smartest people on the planet i don't think it plays that big role but you know fun stuff i think we should recognize that there are other attributes
Starting point is 01:56:59 human beings have besides intelligence that have value all right let's see where we at hype bot says phil is 100 correct about michelle obama the average u.s voter is basically mindless name recognition is the number one thing number two is do i hate this person a far third place is actual policy well i agree with that but i just think liberals and especially like these liberal suburban democrat moms are just really racist i'm i'm rooting for tim to be right by the way well let's say this are they racist uh well i think they are but i don't think i don't think they're aware it's not even a question of course they're like i won't say all of them but people on the left i mean one of the platforms at this point is you have to hate white people so yes but i mean against black people um if we want to count like soft bigotry of low expectations as racism absolutely and that just means a racist with a guilty conscience yes
Starting point is 01:57:49 so yeah so they have a guilty conscience that doesn't mean they're actually going to trust someone to run the country right the mentality of these liberal women will probably be something like you know i really support the efforts of these poor underprivileged privileged people but the right decision for my family will be donald trump because they're racist yeah they would they would discount a person's candidacy based on race i think that's i think that's fairly uh i think that's a good bet a good bet oh let's go thomas tjg says has phil ever used vocal rest as an excuse to avoid conversations with d-bags on tour literally every single every single tour since 2007 absolutely not around here though
Starting point is 01:58:38 we we when we were we were at like tp usa they've got music blasting and everyone's trying to talk to me and I'm just like, I can't talk because I would have to yell and I'm going on stage later on to do a show. And so then I shut up and then they just keep talking at me and asking me questions and I'm just nodding. I'm like, just not saying things. I'm like, guys, like maybe if the music was all
Starting point is 01:58:59 the way low and I could talk in a normal voice, but I'm not going to yell because seriously talking to someone backstage with music blasting super loud for one hour and then i'm talking like this yeah not interested yep that could be a great excuse by the way you know you encounter some progressive you're like hey i just can't no maybe that's what they want anyway probably yeah brandon hawkins says tim next time you make a pot of coffee, put a pinch of salt in the ground so you can thank me later.
Starting point is 01:59:27 I'll give it a try. My aunt told me that, but I would always put too much and it would taste salty. But when she did it, it was really good. It made it very smooth. Really?
Starting point is 01:59:35 Yeah. If it's bitter coffee, like at a gas station, you need to put a little bit of salt in there. That always makes it not as bitter. It usually feels like overcooked or overheated, but. It really has to be like a tiny bit.
Starting point is 01:59:43 I tried to get the portions as small as possible and after ruining like two pots i was like i'm not i'm hanging out at the casino and the lady walks by and she's like drinks and i'm like i will have a coffee with 10 cream and no sugar that's the way you got to do it man you get dirty looks too yeah and one guy was like man this guy wants a splash of coffee in his cream yeah exactly and i said look you want to if they had whipping cream, I'd ask for coffee with heavy cream. But, you know, they don't. Personally, as a cream purist, I think that half and half is an affront. It's offensive.
Starting point is 02:00:14 Okay? You want coffee with cream, you get cream. I was in London and I was having breakfast at a hotel and I said, I'll have coffee with cream. And they went, we'll see what we can do. And I was like, okay. Did they bring you clotted cream? No, they brought heavy whipping cream. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 02:00:28 Okay. Because they don't have half and half. No. They use milk. Yeah. And I was just like, but milk is not fatty. Like when you want half and half, it's because you want to add fat to your coffee.
Starting point is 02:00:39 Exactly. I just say, look, if you're going to do like two creams, just do one heavy cream. Like it's absurd that you're adding half and half when you can just do a little bit of heavy cream. Use real cream. You know what's going on? Endorsed.
Starting point is 02:00:54 Endorsed. It's very, it's very, very delicious. Yes. It's very delicious. And let's go. Zach Bolden says the live show isn't showing up on YouTube. I had to search for it. That's how it's been since Christmas.
Starting point is 02:01:05 Yeah, we know they suppress us. And it's only because fans actively seek the show out that we resist their efforts. It is what it is. But tomorrow's Town Hall will be live on YouTube. And Monday's show with a live audience will also be live on YouTube. So you don't want to miss it. We're having the Town Hall with Vivek. It's going to be a podcast Town hall hybrid. We'll figure that out. We're going to discuss
Starting point is 02:01:27 with our team exactly how we can run it. So it'll be a very like open conversation talking about a bunch of ideas. Vivek will have a majority of the floor, but it's still going to be podcast hybrid style. So it's not going to be, you know, like an interviewer saying, tell me about this and then letting him talk. It'll be a bit of a back and forth and we'll try and bring in the audience as much as we can and then uh the 15th is caucus day and the caucus begins right on the time we normally go live 8 p.m and then uh we will be live to track the caucus and talk news and uh we'll have a rotating panel of guests it'll be a lot of fun we're gonna have uh don jr is uh scheduled to be joining us this week so we can just he can discuss uh obviously, his father's
Starting point is 02:02:06 campaign. And we're big fans of Trump. I know Phil said he's gonna be voting for Vivek. We'll see. I'm, of course, leaning towards Trump. But we'll see how it plays out. There's a lot to be said for what's gonna happen. Smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends. Head over to TimCast.com. Click join us, become a member because it is not just about getting access to the uncensored shows, our documentaries or other fun programming. It is about joining our mission and supporting the work that we do. If tomorrow I won the mega millions, one hundred sixty five million dollars, the drawing was probably just now. If I want one hundred sixty five million dollars, I swear to each and every one of you, one hundred percent of that money would be invested into winning the culture war in every conceivable way no questions asked so when you become a member at timcast.com
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Starting point is 02:03:12 Thank you for your support. You can follow the show at TimCastIRL. You can follow me personally at TimCast. Mayor Staggs, do you want to shout anything out? Yeah, I just want to give a shout out
Starting point is 02:03:19 to my family, my wife, Felicia, and my two great children, Brendan and Brecklin. They're fantastic. They're why I'm doing this. You know, they really are. It's we've got to save this country.
Starting point is 02:03:28 We have to. Absolutely. Right on. You got a Twitter account anyone can follow? Yeah. Trentstags.com is the website. S-T-A-G-G-S and at Mayor Staggs on X and social media. On X.
Starting point is 02:03:40 Correct. Right on. Thanks for hanging out. Seamus. My name is Seamus. I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. We make animated cartoons. We're going to be releasing one this Thursday.
Starting point is 02:03:48 I'm happy about it. I think a lot of our videos lately have been really fun. So if you guys want to go over there, check it out. Subscribe. I'm also going to be at the Town Hall event this week. Really amped for that. So thank you all for watching. God bless you.
Starting point is 02:04:01 Have a wonderful day. And I'll just say, if you want to support me, go to freedomtunes.com. Become a member. You'll get extra cartoons that the public doesn't have, only you have. And you'll have a lot of behind-the-scenes content as well. We have like over 50 cartoons there at this point, well over that, that are just exclusive to the website. So, freedomtunes.com.
Starting point is 02:04:18 Become a member. I love you all. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm Phil that remains on X. I'm Phil that remains official on Instagram. The band is All That Remains. You can follow us on, oh, let's see, Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, Amazon Music, you know, the internet. And I am Serge.com. It is not a website.
Starting point is 02:04:38 That is my moniker. It is spelled D-O-T-C-O-M. This is a great show. Thank you very much for coming. I appreciate it. And I am a utah man i am again one more time we have a new cat that we caught and we uh decided to name it seamus and the funniest thing ever is that for the first time seamus is back in town to meet the cat
Starting point is 02:04:57 and he's in the kitchen and little seamus walks up and seamus goes hey seamus i am not calling him that yeah the first time i called him that it felt weird and it's really difficult to have a cat named after you running around it's like look when you guys named a chicken after Luke I was like that makes sense right then they named this cat after me and I'm like well you know
Starting point is 02:05:17 it is what it is and it's all but the problem is it actually causes trouble because when people say like oh like Seamus is crapping in the corner people think it's the cat haha all right everybody we'll see you all over at timcast.com thanks for hanging out you

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