Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #939 TRUMP WINS IOWA CAUCUS Live w/Benny Johnson, Alex Bruesewitz, & More

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Seamus join Benny Johnson, Alex Bruesewitz, and others for a special episode of Timcast IRL live from the Iowa Caucus! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to our Iowa caucus show. We are here in Des Moines, Iowa. It is, I think it's like, what, negative 15 out right now. We've got the Iowa caucus results trackers pulled up, but we still have, I think, it could be an hour before we know exactly who wins and what's going on, but there's a lot of interesting data that's coming out. So we're gonna talk about this.

There is a lot of news that we'll probably get into as we are waiting, but we have a lot of awesome guests. And in the news today, of course the Iowa caucus is taking center stage. Donald Trump is the huge favorite expected to win. But there is a shocking new poll showing that among first-time caucus goers, Vivek Ramaswamy actually is leading. Nikki Haley's in second, and Trump is in third.

I don't know how much that will matter because the core base of voters are not first-time voters, so this should get pretty interesting. We've got massive escalation in the Red Sea, which could lead to a serious conflict,, crisis and war, higher prices. So we'll talk about all that and a bunch of other stuff. We'll talk about the airlines getting woke and going broke. But I think a big focus of today is going to be on the strategies of these political campaigns, who's going to win, why they're engaging the things they are. And of course, Donald Trump versus Vaik Ramaswamy is big in the news right now. So we'll get into all that. But before we do, my friends, this whole production brought to you in Iowa is powered by Baste Records.

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is not going to be members only tonight. We're going to bring in audience Q&A around 10 p.m. Eastern. And we're going to go for about 45 minutes where we have a hard stop because we have to fly back on our very expensive private jet because that's what we do.

That's the only way we're able to pull it off, but we do have a deadline to get out of here. So it should be really interesting. And we're going to have a lot of awesome people. So also go to TimCast.com, click Join Us, become a member, support the show, because that's another way you can help make all of this possible. This show is powered thanks to people like you. You also get access to our members-only uncensored show content. You've got the Discord server where you can hang out with like-minded individuals.

It's a lot of fun. We really do appreciate your support. So smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to start off the show, we got Benny Johnson and Alex Brusiewicz. Take it away, whoever wants to. What's up?

Benny Johnson and, you know, you can subscribe to my OnlyFans. I hope it's worth the money it was take the glasses off that's hot hey that's for subscribers only who are you what do you do for those that might not know news and politics and culture

on YouTube Facebook Instagram Twitch Rumble Kik other platforms that I'm X, and so forth. Well, all right. We got Alex. Alex, what are you doing? He's blowing up, by the way. I mean, this guy gains more followers than anybody I know on a daily basis. He's crushing it. But I'm Alex Brzezowicz. I am a semi-professional Twitter troll and a professional full-time dissimp crusher online.

And, you know, I'm excited for a big Trump victory tonight. Right on. We've got a couple other guests. We've got a bunch of people who may be jumping in and out. I don't know exactly who may be showing up because there are a lot of people who have expressed interests. But we are, we have been under the impression the whole time, and I just want to make sure this is clear. Vivek Ramaswamy should be joining us at some point in the night to discuss strategy, what's happening. And so we're excited for that. Of course, we had him on the show on Wednesday. We did a big town hall with him. But considering how hectic the night may be, we have no idea how it may turn out,

especially considering the roads are covered in ice and it's like minus 15. But the plan is to have him around. We also got the crew here, of course. Luke Rutkowski is hanging out. Hey, guys. My name is Luke Rutkowski of thebestpoliticalshow.com and because of Bidenomics, I'm also selling on blank blank for $7,000 a load there. If you want to find out what the blank says, go to thebestpoliticalshirts.com. We also have Seamus here who just came out and

crawled out of the tunnels in New York City. Good to see you, brother. Hold on a second. So, Luke... Were those Irish tunnels, though? It's deeply Irish, yes. It's unbelievable. By the way, Luke was eating seed oil. How dare you be blasphemous?

And Tim can vouch for that. Well, I caught him because I saw Luke sitting on the couch eating a cracker, and I recognized instantly it was a Belvita cracker from the shape on it. And I was eating a beef stick, and then when Luke got up... With soy. You had a soy stick.

There's no soy in there. You had, what, red five? Red two? Red three. It was horos. It was red three. That stuff's made from coal tar. That's right.

I confess, there were preservatives and coloring and corn syrup in my beef stick, but Luke was eating seed oil. Couldn't preserve Luke's reputation. What do you eat? Going around pushing this anti-seprit. What about your two-sprite diet? How about that? Have you ever talked about your horrible diet?

You don't want to get into this. I put extra seed oil in my food. Poisonous, fluoride drinker. Hold on. I own the IQ. What were the tunnels used for? Answer the question, Seamus. What were you doing in the tunnels?

We're moving on. I actually legitimately want to know. I am fed up. We're moving on. Seamus did, however, drink two sprites and had a piece of chocolate cake. As he was sick. Anyway, Seamus, who are you with? My name is Seamus Coghlan.

I'm a cartoonist, political pundit. I have a podcast on Rumble that's on hiatus right now called Shamer. I also have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. We upload a new animated cartoon every single week. And I'm a co-host on Shimcast. That's right. I'm Ian Crossland. I have been eating very healthy while we were in town. I'm a co-host on Shimcast. That's right. I'm Ian Crossland. I have been eating very healthy while

we were in town. I've been drinking a lot of hot tea, chamomile. That was nice. Caffeine, low caffeine. Classy gentleman. Hard to eat healthy in Iowa. I've got a bit of a buzz in my headphones. Hopefully it's not too distracting. We went to the Big Steer. Everyone from Des Moines knows what that is. Luke said apparently

everyone... I found that place. I did deep dive research into it. Yo, you come to Iowa, go to the Big Steer. Do people, everyone from Des Moines know what that is? Luke said apparently like everyone. I found that place. I did deep dive research. Yo, you come to Iowa, go to the Big Steer. Absolutely.

That place is awesome. Best ribeye in town. Man, the seafood was top notch. Super good. Delicious.

That butter, this like melted Does that have enough seed oils for you, Luke? No seed oils. No, the dressing they made in

house, Ian asked about it. Garlic. They were like, nope, it's legit, it's cream, it's like garlic. But now that we've

talked about a bunch of nonsense, let's talk about the news. All right, here's the first thing I got pulled up for you. This is actually really funny. The first thing I want to mention, we have the New York Times Iowa caucus results queued up. For those that are here watching live, you can see what we have on the screen right here. But what do you notice? What do you notice in their default breakout of the candidates? I notice our buddy isn't there.

Who wants to say it? Yeah, no Vivek. Vivek is not included in the New York Times default breakout. You have to then click View All Candidates to bring him up along with Chris Christie, Asa Hutchinson, and Ryan Binkley.

Yeah, Christie did drop out, but he's still on the ballot. Deadass, I don't even know who Ryan Binkley is. He was the first person to do the full Grassley this cycle. He did all 99 counties. Did he really? He did. on the ballot. Dead ass, I don't even know who Ryan Brinkley is. He was the first person to do the full Grassley this cycle. He did all 99 counties. Did he really? He did. Oh, wow.

Is he still running? No, he suspended his campaign, but I think he still has a few folks going to caucus for him. Really? And Hutchison's been out for a while. No, he's still in. He's still in? He's still in, yeah. Wow.

That's kind of depressing, but more power to him, I guess. One percent. Oh, he's... That's kind of depressing, but, you know, more power to him, I guess. One percent. Oh, is it really? Chris Christie dropped out, but I do love that Vivek is not included in their default breakout of the total reporting. Should be interesting to see what ends up happening because of that. It was the same with CNN and Fox News. Yeah, apparently what Fox...

So we did a ride-along with Vivek today, and he showed me a screenshot from his Fox News hit this morning. He's like, what's going on, guys? What is this? And he pointed at the screen, and it just showed the three. It's a poll. It was a poll of who are you caucusing for, and they did not include his name. But the weird thing on CNN is when you clicked the link and went there, the big article was Vivek's face. I don't understand what was going on.

I think if you go to CNN right now, it'll probably just show you Vivek. I guess that's it. But I suppose the big news and the big questions we can start talking about right now is Donald Trump versus Vivek Ramaswamy. This is like the big subject. For the longest time, everybody's kind of wondering how it is

that Vivek is running against Donald Trump, but there's no fighting. And so we actually got to the point where I think it was Dave Rubin who tweeted that Vivek... I don't want to get him wrong, but Dave said something to the effect that Trump is working with or for, I'm sorry, Vivek is working with or for Trump or something like this. Yeah. That was a big narrative that was being pushed by the DeSantis camp for quite a while. And I think Vivek was smart for a long time for not taking shots at President Trump. And he kind of stayed above the fray in that fight.

But President Trump certainly doesn't enjoy when people use his face or name for, you know, financial purposes. And those T-shirts that Vivek was pushing with the safe Trump vote, Vivek message, I think that was a, I think that upset a few people, including President Trump, and rightfully so. President Trump is never liked when people use his name. He even sued little Mac Miller over the song Donald Trump. And so I think that was a rookie mistake made by Vivek, and it happened at an inopportune time for the guy. Yeah, so this is the story. I just Google searched the image. India West is the source. I don't know what they are, but this image is real. And it's Vivek with a group of young men and they're wearing shirts that say, save Trump, vote Vivek. I like Vivek. He's a good dude. He's a smart guy. He's a hardworking guy. But this is this was a mistake.

This was a big mistake. I understand the message like, OK, Trump's his life is at risk. If the deep state really wants him to not be president, that they'll stop at nothing. I get that, but, like, to rely on that as a campaign message is a little lame. Like, you got to be the best candidate, not like, oh, that other guy's a problem, so vote for me instead. That just doesn't fly. It doesn't sustain my opinion. Yeah, I mean, look, Vivek has a great thing going as if the deep state does really stop at nothing and go after Trump and let's not even explain like the worst that could happen. We're going to be happy that it's not just Nikki Haley waiting in the bleachers.

Yep. So they is around. That was the argument that I overheard as he's doing radio interviews all day with Alex Jones, Bongino. He was like the argument. I couldn't hear Alex Jones or Bongino. He was like, the argument, I couldn't hear Alex Jones or Bongino, but you could tell they were like, Trump's going after you. Why would you run with this stupid shirt? And his argument was, Alex Jones, you just did 20 minutes.

We just did 20 minutes together on how they're going to assassinate Trump. So then what happens next? And Bongino, you just did a whole interview where you and Tucker talk about assassination of Trump for 30 straight minutes. So what do you think is going to happen next? Game theory that out for me. So I think that's, I don't think that's smart. I don't think that t-shirt's smart, but that's the, I think the strategy, the thought process behind it, right? The t-shirt is cringy, sure. But I thought Trump's response could have been better. I think he could

have been a lot smarter about this situation. His statement today made more sense, but he could have reached out to Vivek. He could have sent out a message saying, hey, I don't need saving. Thank you. Without kind of dividing a lot of people, as of course, you know, Don Jr. was here just a couple of days ago and he talked about how we don't have a bench and this kind of infighting, I don't think is productive. And I think it could have been handled totally different, in my opinion. Well, it is politics. And Vivek is running for president against Trump. And he has stayed out of, you know, kind of the firing lane the entire cycle so far.

That's true. And this was really his first hiccup and mistake, I think, of the campaign. And, you know, President Trump is a fighter by nature. And he typically doesn't hold back saying things that are on his mind. And that was probably the first thing that came to his mind yesterday. And so he put it out. And, you know, look, I think a lot of us do like Vivek. A lot of us do think he has a future in the movement and a future in the party. I don't think it's this year, but I do think, you know, he's a young guy. And when we're talking, looking

at our bench down the future, I think Ron DeSantis stepped on a landmine this cycle and has no future after this. I think a lot of people saw his response. And I think some people took offense to it because they kind of saw it as punching down. And they saw it as infighting. And to me, that's how just some people reacted to it. But, you know, again, it's a crazy situation. And a lot of people want it handled differently. I think the only smart move here, quite frankly, is for Trump to release a Save the Vague shirt.

That would have been a meme. That would have been funny. That would have been hilarious. That is good. And be like, I got you, bitch. Save the Vague from himself. Well, I want to make a point piggybacking off of what you said Alex with DeSantis and the fact that he stepped on a lot Landmine here. It's just fascinating me because yeah, this is the first time I've ever felt that I liked a politician and hated their campaign

It's a very strange phenomenon. I mean, I don't even like the guy anymore. You don't like him anymore at all Sorry, but finish your point. Yeah. No. Well, my point was basically just that and I I've said this on the show before I think that if Trump and DeSantis are both strong, that's great for the United States of America. I want both of those men to be as successful as possible. And then going up against each other in this cycle and DeSantis deciding to run has turned out to be a complete disaster for him and his campaign. And he ended up basically jumping headfirst into the politician woodchipper that is Donald Trump, I believe to borrow the phrasing from R.N.

McIntyre. And so there's a lot that DeSantis has done that I think is fantastic. I would like to see him have a strong future in politics, but unfortunately, I think his campaign has been a disaster. And I also say that as someone who's had friends work for him, people who I like. I think the people making decisions for DeSantis

are really not trustworthy, and I think they're making bad calls. And this is the moment that I would like to formally apologize to Will Chamberlain and Jordan Chamberlain. They're friends of ours. They're good friends of mine. Will's great. Will's a good guy. And I want to apologize because on the show last week, I said that they were living in Maryland while working for Ron DeSantis, and that was not true.

And so, Will, I'm really sorry about that. I didn't know. I made a mistake. I read these articles. I assumed you were still in the area because you had been on the show earlier, but they were actually living in Florida at the time when they were working for DeSantis.

So, seriously, sorry about that, guys. I mean it. And Will's one of the people I'm thinking of. Will's the man. Like, I really like that guy. Yeah, I don't know how you get rid of Will, who's actually a smart guy, a competent guy, and then keep some of these other dumpster fires around. So...

Yep. And this is what I said to Will. If they put him in charge, De this is what I said to Will. If they put him in charge, DeSantis would be polling way higher. He could have the campaign that Vivek is having. I think this is a mistake Vivek made, but I still think he's doing really well. But I got to tell you, when I mentioned to you earlier, I don't even like Ron anymore. I got to be honest.

Laura Loomer put out that video where she confronts him, and it it's it is I don't know how to describe it but it is shocking to be confronted by Laura Loomer if you're if you're some of these people right but a question that someone asked and she also asked was why are you in Iowa when your state is in a state of emergency and I was like whoa I didn't even realize I looked it up sure enough there's flooding and a disaster going on in Florida. And not only did he come out here, but correct me if I'm wrong, I'm hearing that he brought out his governor's gubernatorial staff as well. Yes. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, dude, dude, this is not okay.

Okay. He would have earned way more political points by saying, I'm not going to be able to campaign in Iowa, understand why. There are people who depend on me. I will never abandon the people who voted for me, people of Iowa, blah, blah, blah. Instead, he was like, I'm out. He flies in, flies out, comes here, and then goes to campaign in a blizzard where all the stores are shut down.

We're walking around outside, and it wasn't even snowing very hard, but the snow had come overnight, and the restaurants are closed. Everything's closed. It's buried under snow. For what reason did he decide to come out here when people are canceling events? He actually abandoned his state during a state of emergency flooding into disaster to campaign in a state that was dealing with its own weather. I was just, that pissed me off. I'm sorry, man. And weather that people from Florida have no idea how the F to deal with.

Florida people don't know how to deal with ice and snow and cold. What's the gator guy going to do up here? As a person, yeah, that's right. Lift your legs when you walk. So, two things. One, and press down when you step. But can you lift your legs that high in boots like that, is the

question. It was fun. I have big boots. They're like the big polar boots. The Balenciaga? Baffins. How How big the heel? I'm big. Oh, oh they got their wedges inside. They give me about good four inches, you know Can I pull the audience real quick? What do you guys make of a man that well wears high heels in the campaign trail? And that's okay, it's okay I got a question for you guys.

We were talking in the green room beforehand about basically the liberal economic order, most powerful force on earth, most powerful global government ever created. So if these guys, Vivek and Donald Trump, are saying, like, we're going to disrupt it, my thought is, okay, well, then your life is on the line. So if you do win the presidency, you're going to have to go into hiding or govern from, like, some secret location. And they and they were like no that would be like an abandonment I'm like, but if you stay in contact with the people via internet video be like I have no choice But to be in a mountain base, what do you guys think? That's a good idea. You think it's unnecessary

What do you think going against the liberal world order? Well, I mean they're talking about dismantling the FBI Which is essentially going against the liberal economic order. So let's let's let's a little bit. I know there's a lot of people who are probably more general viewers We've covered this quite a bit, but the liberal economic order is a system You can that was built after World War two Ian brings up quite a bit It's a legitimate thing. This is not conspiracy theory I know the media's gonna try and claim it is it's what is it the CFR the Council on Foreign Relations? They might be involved it was started in 1949 and they were like this is gonna guarantee We don't have World War III. They built American-led, rules-based

economy is what they call it. And they built all these American military bases. They use American money. And they've been enforcing it. So they're like, these people are like, we've got to create a new world order. This liberal economic order is no longer effective. We've got to create a new system is where they've been, like the World Economic Forum is starting to step in. But this liberal economic order is kind of now being siphoned into this new world order that they're trying to, this global banking thing. And Trump has been like, was kind of a bull, like he kind of, when he canceled the Trans-Pacific Partnership,

you could see that he was not playing that game. He was not going to sell out the United States. Well, here's a question I want to ask, too, because Ian's bringing up this point. If you're going up against the machine, they will do anything to stop you. And as you were just pointing out, Vivek was mentioning that Alex Jones, Dan Martino are talking about the potential assassination. Tucker Carlson. And the joke everyone else has is that if Trump picked Nikki Haley as VP, he'd have to get a food taster because they're going to want to get her in as soon as possible. But let's be real, too. When Vivek says, save Trump, vote Vivek, it's like, what makes you think you're immune to the same things?

If Vivek's really a threat to the system like he's campaigning on, why would the system let him in? And so he needs to figure out that message before it lands because that doesn't make a ton of sense. I just want to add one more point before we move on. For me personally, there's a lot of things that are happening right now that we should be talking about, specifically World War III that we are probably in right now, the Epstein client list. Americans are fatter, sicker, and more depressed than ever, but we're talking about calendars and cringy T-shirts. The conversation should really be about the establishment versus the anti-establishment. This is where the conversation needs to be.

There's a lot at stake here. And to me, we're arguing over superficial issues when there's so much deeper things that we could be exposing right now, fighting for and talking about that sadly we're not talking about, which is kind of disappointing for me personally. I want to cover some of these issues.

I agree, Luke. The results are going to start coming in, but we do have some big issues, especially Taylor Hansen is reporting on a really crazy issue we'll get to later in the show, where you've actually got police officers. They're off duty but using public equipment to facilitate human smuggling operations on the border. Crazy stuff coming out of it. This is Tenet Media.

Shout out to Tenet Media. We have the show The Culture War with them, obviously. Full disclosure. But Taylor's got some excellent reporting we'll pull up later. As Luke points out, there's a lot of issues. But I want to talk a little bit about the caucus. Two big issues. This is a new report from scnr.com. Shock poll. Majority of first-time Iowa caucus goers support Vivek Ramaswamy. Trump is in third place among this group with 29 percent. Surprisingly, I believe

it's Nikki Haley who has second place. Right. Well, her numbers come from first-time GOP caucus goers, and it's because she has a lot of Democrats caucusing for her. Exactly. And so these are people that are not actually going to be voting for a Republican in November. This is a crazy thing. I think Mark Cuban tweeted this, calling for crossover voters, Democrats, to come in and vote for Nikki Haley, basically sabotaging the Republican primary process. Why does the state party of Iowa allow that? Why does the Republican state party of Iowa allow that?

But there is absolutely no sense. Here's a question. How long have you been in Iowa? Less than a week. You've met some people. You've gotten out. You've went to restaurants. Yeah.

Have you met a Nikki Haley supporter? No. Never. Not that I know Yep. Yeah. Have you met a Nikki Haley supporter? No. Never. Not that I know of. Yeah. Yeah. It's like meeting a dodo bird or a Joe Biden voter. Yeah.

Like try and capture, you know, try and capture one for science. Yo. Science. What are you? I've never, I don't know one. I've never seen one. We've met Joe Biden voters. We've never, I've never met a Joe Biden supporter.

Okay. Yeah. They voted against Trump, essentially. Yeah, and even the leftists who are like, I voted for Biden. It's like, yeah, I don't like the guy at all. I just think Trump's a fascist or blah, blah, blah. But when I saw this thing from Mark Cuban where he's like crossover voters, you're saying, why does Iowa allow it? It's really simple, man. Democrats probably a long time ago switched their party with the intention of sabotaging the primary.

We talked about it even in 2020. This is a strategy of having your people go to open primaries to choose whoever you think is going to lose or just to cause chaos and damage. Well, if it makes any of the folks in attendance or watching feel better, Liz Cheney tried to do this in Wyoming and she lost by 40 points. She tried to get all the Democrats in Wyoming to register and vote for her. I don't think it's smart that some states do it, but that's just the fact of the matter. But it's not about any state doing it. Even if you have a closed primary caucus process, a Democrat one year ago switches party affiliation to Republican, waiting for the moment they can come and do this. There's nothing, there's no way to stop it. It just means that Democrats are, there are a large percentage of Democrat voters who are lying to sabotage the Republican primary.

I would like to thank your program and what you guys do for sending your reporters to the Nikki Haley events. And she has totally closed the doors to most conservative media. She won't allow cameras inside of her stump speeches. She's terrified that her speeches will get out there. And so your videos of like talking to the attendees and say, yeah, they say I'll vote for Biden before I vote for Trump. Like those are the first videos that were actually coming out of the Nikki Haley events, this entire campaign cycle. So you guys did a great job on that. Well, that's a shout out to SCNR.com, Elad Eliyahu doing this ground reporting. Elad does a great job. He doesn't go in. He's not yelling at people. He just asked them a basic question.

Who are you supporting, Nikki Haley? If it's not Nikki Haley, who will you vote for? And they say Biden. And their voters say Ukraine's the number one issue. These people are not going to be Trump voters. And that's OK. We don't need them. But Vivek has been interesting. He's attracting a new demographic, I think, to the party. And I think a lot of when he eventually drops out, I think most of his, if not all of his supporters will come and vote for President Trump. But he's a young, energetic guy. And he attracts a similar type of person that President Trump does. But Vivek's team has really made an effort to go after the young vote, like the 18, 20-year-olds and, you know, the Andrew Tate crowd. It's brilliant going for the younger voter.

I think Vivek's whole play is for the future. I do think the Save Trump, Vote Vivek thing was a huge misstep. But I think right now, and I'll say this too, because right now with the Vivek versus Trump thing, people are getting attacked online like crazy. You've got these diehard Trump supporters saying they're all grifters. Yeah, okay. Look, I'm going to throw some criticism at Ian Miles Chong because he posted that really deceptive image that was like mainstream media-esque where it's a very tight shot from the third row of a Trump rally and then behind Vivek at his whole room when apparently Trump had like 2,500 people plus overflow and Vivek had 500 capacity. Like, let's not play those games.

We don't need to do that. But there are a lot of people that I think are going hard after anybody who is talking to Vivek or interviewing him, claiming that there's a paid coordinated thing. Totally not true. Possible. I don't know. Maybe some people are getting paid by Vivek's campaign. We didn't get anything from Vivek, except I will say full disclosure, the building we are in, Laura Loomer tweeted that we are in his campaign office. Technically correct, not literally correct. His campaign office is down the hall around the corner. I think that's fair to point out. We are in an unused portion of the building. We actually had to talk with the owner about the use of the space and what it meant.

And I'm just going to tell everybody this. We actually, we were like at odds with the Vivek campaign because they're super noisy and we're trying to do a show. But I'm like, I don't want to disrupt someone else's campaign. Yeah, and they've given us full access to that office, which is where I got my tea, is in Vivek's canteen. They're being really nice to us. Shout out to Vivek's tea. He's being bought off by tea. That's right, that's right. But I want to make sure we're being transparent and clear

with that. But I also want to point out that when Laura mentioned about being loyal to Trump, I don't think she articulated that very well. I don't like loyalty in politics. What do you guys think? No, no, hold on. I want to address this. This is the point why I'm bringing it up.

There is an issue of being honorable and loyal to Donald Trump, and I agree with it. Now let all the DeSantis people scream MAGA cult BS, whatever. No, I'll tell you what it means. It means I didn't vote for Donald Trump in 2016, and then I saw a president who started no new wars. I saw him set deadlines for ending these foreign wars, which the Democrats told me were all bad during Obama, but made worse. He brings in the Abraham Accords.

He negotiates with North Korea. All of these great foreign policy moves, some bad ones, don't get me wrong, but an overall net positive. And the whole time, they're destroying his life. They're targeting his children. His net worth is dropping. Now they're trying to take from him

his properties in New York City with a fraudulent trial. He's being criminally prosecuted across the board. I'm sorry, man. When it comes to the issue of loyalty, I can ignore policy and say, I'm not going to abandon a guy and vote for Vivek after this guy jumped in the trenches and caused himself personal damage to do good things for me and the United States. That's loyalty. But that being said, between Vivek and Trump, I understand Vivek's point about they're going to try and stop him. Agreed. However,

Donald Trump has experience in his first term. I believe that if Vivek were to win right now, he would not be as effective as Trump in certain areas because he will step on the landmines that they laid out for Trump in the first term that Trump now knows about. So I still think there's a logical path forward for why Donald Trump is the right person to pick. And I also think there's a question of honor and loyalty to a guy who's sacrificing a lot. Well, so honor, don't turn away from who you believe in because of fear. I agree with that. But I believe that we should be loyal to the process.

And it sounds like you're loyal to Trump's process, which I understand. But if you're loyal to his actions, what he's done is like, I want more of that. I respect humans that do that thing. But no, that's not you're saying all the things he did. It's not about like, I love the guy no matter what he does. I'm saying I'm saying you can ignore the good things he's done. That's my point. If we take all of his policies and everything he did for this country

and just put a blanket over it and say, the only issue we are addressing is this man ran to be president, ignited a base, and they have been stabbing him in the back relentlessly. That guy made sacrifices for me. I won't abandon him. No, I don't like that. I think I hear where you're coming from, though. And I think for the voters, I don't think the voters necessarily have to be loyal to a person. I think President Trump has earned a lot of respect and a lot of appreciation from the voters,

and that's why they're going to vote for him tonight and across the country. But when Laura Loomer, I think when she's talking about the loyalty, I think she's talking about people like a Ron DeSantis, who was a backbench Congress member until he got on his hands and knees and cried in front of Trump, begging him for his endorsement, basically getting the coronation to become governor of Florida. President Trump worked with him, made sure he got in. He got rally after rally after rally. DeSantis was running TV ads, you know, basically saying, you know, I'm President Trump's number one guy. And, you know, build the wall, reading Trump books to his kids. And he embraced the Trump rant to become who he is today. And then he totally ditched Trump when it became politically convenient for him.

And then when you look at some of these other influencers that Laura Loomer's in the trenches fighting online, simply built their audiences. Like I look at Tim different than I look at some of these other folks like a Jenna Ellis, because Jenna Ellis built her audience off of the back of Trump supporters and president Trump. Tim built his audience on his own, doing his own thing. And so who he wants to support, he can support who he wants. But when you're Jenna Ellis, or you're a John Cardillo, or you're a Bill Mitchell, your content is only I love Trump for five six years and just in the reply section defending him and all of a sudden you switch well like that's where people like yeah that's and their followers left them in droves Bill Mitchell lost 90,000 followers over the last you know year because he became the biggest DeSantis shill. John

Cardildo, similar situation. Loyalty matters to that extent, but I don't think the voters necessarily have to be loyal, but I think President Trump certainly makes a great case. I look at his unloyal... Yeah, John Cardildo. It took me a second, and then it processed. I'm loyal to the U.S. Constitution and the process of the American function. And if someone better comes along than the person I've been supporting for 20 years, I'll vote for the new better person. And if that person that I've been supporting goes crazy, they should step down and get out of the way so the next guy can come in. That's how our system's built. Agreed.

And I don't see that playing a role right now. Yeah, but I think the other question, too, is if somebody has been good for 20 years, how do you know that the person who's coming up isn't just good in rhetoric and they're actually going to be decent when they take office? Because that's one of the values, that's one of the benefits of having a political leader who has some experience is you're able to say, okay, I know what their track record is, whereas this other guy could have great rhetoric, but I don't know what he's going to do. Loyalty is in, like, military and monarchy.

I don't think it has a place in republics. We got some numbers coming in. Less than 1% of the votes have come in already. It is 730. Donald Trump is at 67.5% with 243 votes. DeSantis in second. Nikki Haley is in third. Vivek Ramasamy in fourth. Is that good for Trump so far?

This is good for Trump. I'm not good at math. Who's the guy that voted for Chris Christie? There's one vote for Chris Christie. Ryan Binkley got a vote. His wife voted for Ryan Binkley. They're in a wet house. Okay, hold on. His wife voted for Ryan Binkley.

I'm real sorry. Asa Hutchinson still running, you said? He's still running. And he got zero and Christie got one? He's still in the race. That's brutal. I'm sorry. Okay, so hey, look.

If I were caucusing tonight, and I'm from Iowa, and I've caucused before as an Iowan. I no longer live in Iowa, I live in Florida, I would not be caucusing for Ron DeSantis, I'd be caucusing for Donald Trump. I fully expect to vote for Donald Trump in 2024, in a general election. about, but then also this whole like loyalty argument is I think at the root of it is we injected money into the influencer world and we're able to flip influencers in a very cringy way. Talk a little bit about cringe political campaigns here. And, uh, I'm not going to name anyone, but it's fully available for everyone to see online who's getting paid. It's also fully available in FEC reports. You can go check who's on the payroll of which campaigns, right? Big name

influencers, you can go find them. All the reports are public. And I don't like that. You getting paid, Luke? I wish. There were some people that shocked me. DeSantis is paying people. That shocked me. I couldn't believe it. Do people publicly see who he's paying? Riley Gaines is a good example. I didn't know that.

Really? The DeSantis campaign is paying Riley Gaines. Wow. For consulting just two weeks before or two weeks after she endorsed him. So, you know, the timing was interesting, but. I find that practice gross. So, wait, wait, two weeks after she endorsed him, she gets paid by his campaign? $10,000. Interesting. So, I find that practice gross.

You know, it's funny. And I, like, that was something that I wanted because I went and spent the day doing a documentary for my Tenant media show called In the Arena where we go and we show this process. Shout out Tenant. And I was accused of being disloyal because I was going out with the vague, but I just want to tell an interesting story. And he's the only guy that had campaign events today, right? And they were all over the state, and it was very interesting. How else can we look? A bunch of Gen Z kids, by the way.

That he's paying? Well, no, that were showing up to this and saying that they found him through TikTok. Is he on this? No. Oh, Vivek. So Vivek's events were stacked, by and large, with TikTok kids. He's clever.

Which was very interesting. So some more results have just come in a little bit. Vivek's still in fourth, but he's within 15 votes of Nikki Haley. I've got to be honest. I'd be really happy if Donald Trump wins resoundingly and Vivek's still in fourth but he's within 15 votes of Nikki Haley I gotta be honest, I'd be really happy if Donald Trump wins resoundingly and Vivek's in second place Trump's number so far, I just want to say nice I just don't like the paid influencer model

pay you for your endorsement model they used to be called plain and simple you do that in politics, you pay someone for an endorsement you call that corruption do you know any other people that he's paying that are prominent influencers or do you not want to award? Well, there are ways that these campaigns are shielding the name of some of the time. Okay.

Winner is in. With less than 1% of votes, the New York Times has called Donald Trump the winner of the Iowa I was told by Team DeSantis that DeSantis was going to win. That didn't happen? Wow. Wow. Less than 1% of votes in. No way.

Are there other 732? I don't understand that logic. Is my mic even on? Yeah, I think you're a little quiet, and so is Seamus. Well, that's good for both of them, actually. Maybe during that screaming match. Oh, Ryan Binkley's got two votes. Ryan's catching up, Ryan Binkley.

Please, I just want Vivek to beat Nikki Haley. How can they call him with one percent? He's within 12 votes of beating Nikki Haley. That's incredible. That's a good sign. Come on, Vivek. You got this. I got to be honest.

I just hope Nikki Haley fails. The race has been called by the Associated Press. The race was called before most of the votes were reported, which often means the call was based on polls and other data. Oh. Okay, so. So we can go home now? It's done?

No, I think we're all happy to hear that Donald Trump won. Of course he was going to win. He's at 70%. His number is only increasing. But the race that matters is the cultural race, and that is I would like to see Vivek crush DeSantis and Nikki Haley. CBS News now calling. New York.

It's CBS News. CNN. Trump campaign officially shares the AP message that he won. I personally find Vivek to be the superior candidate, but I know that politics is a popularity contest. I can accept that, and Donald Trump is massively popular. What do you think, Alex,

particularly you and anybody that wants to talk about it, as a Vivek-Donald Trump ticket, regardless of who's... I mean, I think Donald Trumpald trump is the i think vivek has certainly positioned himself for an incredible future is it in 2024 on the ticket i don't know um but i think we have a lot of great options i'm a big fan of dr ben carson i think he's been a a asset to our movement. He's a really great man. I think for Vakes certainly should be considered, but I do believe that President Trump has made up his mind and we'll probably find out. Who is it? We'll probably find out that sooner than later. And this primary should wrap up sooner than later because Joe Biden just posted his financials that

he raised this last quarter, $117 million. He gets to save all of his money and prepare for the general election. This primary so far, $250 million has been spent. And look at that margin right now. And so we are just blowing money that we need in November. And so we need some of these jokers to drop out. And so we can take the fight to Joe Biden. You're so right. This was a spectacular waste of money. It's going to be this. If they're going to call it in like 29 seconds. How much money was spent here? With 300 votes coming in?

Well, how much money was spent here? Chris Christie was talking about it on the leaked audio, right? Like when he didn't know he was live. Well, he was tallying $200 million. Ron DeSantis has spent $99 million in the state of Iowa. Oh! 99 million. And he's got 75 votes so far. He got 75 votes, yeah. Do you work for Trump's campaign? I do not work for Trump's campaign, but I am close with most of the folks over there.

I've been blessed to become friends with the president. I'm excited to see him in a few minutes here. He's gonna be in great spirits and a great mood. I do want to— Ryan B a few minutes here. He's going to be in great spirits and in a great mood. Ryan Binkley has two votes now. I do want to mention he doubled his count. I do need to point out, while you may be upset that Ron spent all of that money, when Bloomberg was running and everyone in the country was laughing and he spent half a billion dollars doing it, just understand, he spent a lot of that money on YouTube channels that hated him.

And so congratulations funding the people who spread the message that you suck. So understand when these people are spending money, it's great for the cultural ecosystem. What they're trying to do is that campaigns like DeSantis, I don't know if he's buying ads in social media the way Bloomberg was doing, but they're trying to counter the message of people who are saying Bloomberg sucks. It doesn't work. So all he

ends up doing is giving money to people who hate him to make more shows about why he's bad. So it doesn't really work the way they want. Congratulations on wasting that money. Is it, is the DeSantis, what's he spending the 99 million on? Is it TV commercials? I bet it's a lot of TV. So he had, he, for months he was saying, we're going to win. You know, please find this clip. You've got to show your audience this clip. They say, Ron, how do you pronounce your last name?

Is it DeSanthus or DeSanthus? And he goes, it's pronounced winner. You've got to find this clip. You've got to find this clip. Got him. Can I ask something? It's pronounced winner. As someone who's been watching online and chuckling to myself,

what was it that – do you live in Florida? I do. So what was it that, like, sent you over the edge with the team DeSantis? I think how – Because nobody goes harder than you. Well, they certainly were a lot of fun to spar with early on just because, you know, as a professional Twitter troll, I try to get under people's skin. And the second you, like,

once somebody shows that their skin is like, has been breached, you just keep pressing in and you press in. And so this just becomes a lot of fun. And so they reacted to everything. We tried to bait them into fights that weren't important. And then they spend days and days on a news cycle that was completely irrelevant to the campaign.

And they couldn't help themselves. They engaged every single time. They fought on every single issue. You know, I think Tim pointed out a really important one. He said, you know, the AI fight. So they get caught making a video with Dr. Fauci and Donald Trump hugging an AI. And incredibly shady. And Tim Pool called him out.

Senator J.D. Vance called him out. Josh Hawley called it out. They said, and then their response is, well, Donald Trump shared this meme of Ron DeSantis riding a rhinoceros. It's basically the same thing. And like they would, they die on their hills. They refuse to say I was wrong. And they, they just push in and push in. And, uh, Whoa, we got good news. Favek is within nine votes of Nikki Haley. Yes. I hope Ryan B nine votes of Nikki Haley. Come on, Faveik. Yes! Get it, get it.

I hope Ryan Binkley beats Nikki Haley. Alex, in your experience trolling, have you gained troll resistance? Are you able to resist? Well, I grew up in video game culture. So you log on, you play Call of Duty, you play whatever game you play, and you sit with your buddies and you say the meanest things you can say to each other for you know all day every day and then you get off and you you know see each other at school the next day and your best friends right like i don't words don't hurt me so like i don't really care if somebody's like uh you know they call me ab35k or they say i have no upper lip or

whatever it may be like like i appreciate the attacks and i find humor in the attacks and so i like the game but you get these guys take so personally, and they're so offended by it, and they react emotionally and psychologically, and we just play with them. My conspiracy theory is that the people running DeSantis' campaign are Trump supporters, and they got together and said, what can we do to sabotage Ron DeSantis? Because if you look at what they're doing, it literally makes no sense. No sense. I don't want to call out high-profile individuals who don't want to get involved in fights they don't need

to be involved in. But we've had guests on this show who are prominent conservative personalities in a different range of array of spaces. What I mean by that is like being as vague as possible as like an entertainer, perhaps. And they say things like when they show up to the studio, they'll be like, hey, I'm getting attacked by these DeSantis people. What's going on? And I'm just like, what did you say? I don't know. And I'm just like, well, there you go. Welcome to Ron DeSantis' campaign.

Attack everybody and insult them and be condescending and mean. And apparently that's what they think is going to get them the votes. Oh, Vivek's behind by two. Vivek's with two votes from Nikki Haley. Oh, Vivek, you got to crush Nikki. Come on. Come on. It's Nimrata.

That's right. We're supposed to use ourrata. That's right. We're supposed to use our real names. That's right. Nikki Haley says we must use our real names online. So this is online and you must call her by her real name. Oh, no. You're not naming Nikki Haley. No, Nikki Haley just jumped 17.

No. There ain't none. Ryan Binkley got six. What percent are we at now? Or is it give you a real-time update? 1% of votes. Oh, it's still 1. 1%.

I just DM'd you the video on Twitter. Oh, okay? I think you got a say you the article about it too on Twitter Did you know this yes no change her husband's name to my back yeah, yes, what was it Nikki Haley? It was bill or something. Yeah, it was like bill. She's like I'm gonna call you Mike. She's like I'm gonna call you Okay, yeah, I'm gonna call you big Mike. So there's been rumors for years There's been rumors for years of alleged affairs. There was a staffer that came forward and said they had an affair with Nikki.

And I don't think it was an affair. If this guy allowed his wife to change his name, I don't think it's an affair. I think he might be... Well, whatever it is, look, I mean, like, there's levels of this. There's levels of being insulted. There's, like, first, like, your wife hyphenating

instead of taking your name. And then there's you taking her name. And then there's her changing your first name. And that's where they are as a couple. Guys. It's like, I dub thee Michael. It is getting brutal. Nikki Haley is now well above Vivek.

So early, though. I suspect Nikki Haley pulls ahead of Ron. Really? And Ron finishes in third place with about 15%. You think Vivek will be in fourth? Look, I think Vivek is going to be very close to Ron. He campaigned so hard. But look, money still matters.

And, you know, Vivek has probably been the most frugal of the top four candidates. And he's putting up an interesting fight. But Ron wasted almost a hundred million dollars and probably be very close to Vivek in the race. So I play this? You have to play this video. Alright here we go. You've got a long last name, a European name, Steinhauser. There's been some confusion over your last name and the pronunciation and I'm just wondering to correct the record what is it? Oh, it's ridiculous these stupid things. Listen, the way to pronounce my last name, winner.

I'm sorry, man. I don't know who's advising this guy. You're picking on a guy that has autism. Stop it, please. Leave him alone. Freddie, you're a pro at this. Is that clip going viral tonight? Oh, yo, yo, guys, guys, guys.

Nikki Haley is within 16 votes of beating Ron DeSantis. Oh, man. Wow. She's going to. Ron's going to finish in third place. Look, if he was a smart guy, he drops out tomorrow morning, endorses President Trump, tucks his tail between his legs, goes back to Tallahassee. But I don't think that's a question.

I think you're right, man. I mean, here's a question. So Ron's gone hard in the pain against Trump, right? Like, I haven't missed this on the campaign trail. I can't pay attention to everything everyone says, but Ron's gone real hard. He's ran directly at Trump. How do you take that back, right? How do you then endorse the guy? Well, I think it's expected in politics.

I mean, maybe not, maybe not, because trashing your opponent's different than explaining why you're the best. And also, we've seen people get trashed by Trump and then endorse him. It's not exactly the same, but people have very clearly humiliated themselves. Lying Ted Cruz. Yeah. He knocked Ted Cruz's wife, too. Yeah. He went hard.

Hold on. Hold on. Guys. He called Ted Cruz lying Ted. And then after the fight was over, it changed to lying. And then it was like, it was honorable. To be clear, Ted Cruz did not endorse President Trump for this cycle, so Ted still has...

Nikki Haley is within two votes of beating Ron DeSantis. I think the best thing Ron can do is support the party and not support necessarily... I mean, he could go support Trump, but I mean, you gotta party unity at some point. And maybe they'll make amends. I don't think they dislike each other personally. Is it still 1% of the

vote in? 1% of votes are in. I mean, hey, it's early. I think we're going to start getting big chunks and it's going to jump up faster and faster as the night, we're getting closer to 8 o'clock.

I do think it's funny they already called it for Trump, though. That's weird. Like, instantly. Yeah, with less than 1% of the vote in, they're like, ah, he won.

You know what's funny is because they're saying that it's been called by the AP before most were in, which means it was based on polls. It's probably just some dude at the AP being like, guys, there's no way anyone else is winning. Just say Trump won. They don't need to see anything. It's like, I want to go home.

Let's just get out of here. These caucus things, people just go and then they vote, but like anyone can go and vote. You have to be registered. So you can register. Are they paying people to go do it? Like is DeSantis 99 million partly like, we're gonna make sure that you've got a car to the caucus, that you can get there early? They imported the entire cabinet and government agency staffers of the state of Florida to go door to door in this frigid temperature and beg people to go caucus for Iran. And, you know, it obviously didn't work out too well for them. A lot of out-of-staters showing up at somebody's door in Iowa.

The Iowans don't really appreciate that a whole lot. But this is hilarious. I'm an evacuation plan. I've spent a lot of time with Vivek. I've talked to him multiple times, four or five times, and I've been insulated in his campaign in the last week. I thought there was a shot that maybe he would come up on top. This, to me, is like,

I'm done with this Republican political debacle. Trump's got it. Trump's got it. Trump's the nominee. Look, Trump has gone from 70% at less than 1% with the race called for him. He's now at 57.7%. Even if Ron, Nikki, and Vivek

were all added up, they're still not beating Donald Trump. He's too famous. He's too famous He's so famous I'm actually curious as he gotten is no there's zero for Christy. Sorry not Cruz a for Christy as for what if like Chris Christy flies up those four people like it has dinner with him as I thank you so much for We had a request in, because we call him Crisp Crispy on my show, and we had a request in to go to a Krispy Kreme that's right down the street from my studio. Nikki Haley's beating Ron DeSantis.

How sad. Bird brain will be much easier to destroy than Ron, by the way. We haven't even started on Nikki. Democrats, the rumor is, and I would warn everyone, don't fall for this trap, should it be like RINO Republicans or, you know, whatever establishment she is. But the argument right now is that Democrats are crossing party lines to vote

for Nikki. If it goes to a general election, they're not going to vote for Nikki. No. So she might get higher percentages in the primary process she's not going to get in the general. That sounds like really, really... Dirty. Yeah, that you could, you go in, you register as a Republican,

you caucus for the wrong person, and then you can switch back to Democrat afterwards? Come on, that's insane. Yeah. That's so stupid. That's Cheney's political career. Right. That can't be allowed going forward.

I mean, you register, you register. But what can you do about it? I don't know. So it's 2023. You're like, I don't want Trump to win. Register as a Republican. A year later, you go in caucus for someone else. And then you in general can vote for whoever you want. Or you switch parties after the caucus is over. And that's because a Republican can vote for a Democrat in the general? No, because you can register for whatever party you want. You can change party affiliation. You're free to do so. It's free speech. Or it's free association or whatever.

Tim, do you think that all of the Twitter bots for Ron were able to vote in the Iowa caucus? No. Yeah, I do think Ron dissented his campaign. I will say this. I don't know for sure. I'm not accusing him of doing anything, but I will say it does seem, most people would agree,

that a lot of the pro-descendants accounts online are bots. I don't know if they're associated with the campaign or not, but you see they'll have some generic name with a gator in the name. They'll have some kind of cartoon character as the profile picture, and they all respond in the exact same ways. And I'm just like, it is not organic. At least the Trump people say weird things or insult you in different ways. Like who? No, I'm just talking about like you. MAGA guy 519 or whatever will write you out.

Yeah, you're right. I guess I do that. The DeSantis campaign walked right into so much of this. That's wild. It was just like, maybe it's a little crass or whatever, but that photo was posted of

DeSantis' people and Christina Pichot had her knees made red in Photoshop or whatever. I didn't get that. What did that mean? After that, it was like, that was the moment where I noticed she went from DMing with people I knew. We were talking with her

about having her or DeSantis come on the show. After that photo came out, it was like just the gates of hell had been unleashed. And I think that broke her. Yeah. I'm not trying to be mean And I think that broke her. Yeah. I think it broke her. It appeared to me that she was using campaign resources to settle personal scores.

And she had a lot of the campaign assets and folks just went to battle for her instead of actually doing something that was helpful to the candidate. You know, this is crazy. Is Nikki pulling ahead? Yeah. That's what it looks like, unfortunately. Wow. She's up 23 votes so far on DeSantis. So if Ron drops to 10%, that would be $10 million per percentage point.

That's not good. Wow. Wow. That's so much money. Who spent more, Nikki or Ron, in Iowa? Ron. Ron put all of the eggs in Iowa. He had his entire ground game here.

He bragged about how great their operation was here. Never backed down. His super PAC had their bus here basically the entire campaign. They pulled out of New Hampshire many months ago. And his whole campaign was reliant on Iowa. And that's why he sought the endorsements of Steve Deese and Bob Vander Plaats and these people who were once considered Iowan kingmaker kingmakers. And I don't think any campaign is going to be seeking their endorsements next go around.

You know, it's it's it's kind of wild to have been someone look year and almost two years ago. I'm hanging out the Daily Wire crew story told a million times. And we're talking about why we think Ron DeSantis is the guy. It's well before Trump was back in the race. A lot of things changed since then. And we're like, Ron's young. He's got energy. He's got great policy. He's really working for Florida. Everyone's really excited by him. And then as time went on, we got a little more disenfranchised. It got to the point where I was like, yeah, I'm kind of 50-50. I think Trump's back. His speech was pretty good. I like Ron DeSantis. We'll see what happens. I just got a text from Wesley Hunt's chief of staff. A Ron DeSantis supporter just charged Wesley while he was a Trump surrogate at caucus location.

Video coming soon. Whoa. So these folks aren't handling the loss well. Well, this is what I hope. Wesley's OK. But this is never back down. Yes, right. Oh, my God.

Here's what I want to say about. There was a period where Ron DeSantis. Thank you. Thank you. I'm a father of three. Shout out to the audience, by the way. Any fathers in the audience, I really appreciate the appreciation of the dad joke. Thank you. Ron was winning in the prediction markets handily, like two to one against Trump.

Over time, Ron started doing. That's true. Yeah. He started doing worse and worse. So someone like me, I start making apt points about how his campaign is being run. His launch was bad. He lacked charisma. And even after all that, I said, I like the guy.

He's got good policy. He's got to turn this around. And what did they respond with? Attacking anyone who would dare criticize his failing campaign. Now we're at the point where we're like, this guy has totally failed. But there are a lot of personalities who attached them, you know, tied their hitch to the DeSantis wagon. And no matter how bad things got,

they kept saying, no, he's the best. No, I refuse to back down. A very bad day, Bob. What are they going to do? Well, are they going to try and come back and be like, Maga, please take me back into your warm bosom. I'm sorry I supported this guy

whose campaign was miserable. Yeah, or they do a Lincoln Project type group. And, you know, I don't really want some of those folks on our side. They've actually become a detriment of Ron. I don't want, I mean, I don't really want a lot of his people being advocates for us out there. Like, normal people look at some of these people like they think they're weird. So I hope they stay far away from Trump world moving forward. I would love to make it less about who and more about what we do moving forward as a union.

Like this making the America great again, like we do it constantly. We've made this country great. Let's do it again. Let's reinvigorate the country with new technology and give the 21st century a run for its money. To be honest, I don't even care who the president is if they're willing to do that. Well, I think this is a great message. And I think some of these numbers are going to hold pretty closely here. And President Trump, I believe, will get over 50 percent. And that is a mandate. The voters want President Trump. He's going to go on to win New Hampshire, go on to win South Carolina. This primary should end. We should come together and focus our fight on Joe Biden. This is interesting.

Johnson County, Nikki Haley has the lead. If I may, I'm from Johnson County. This is where the University of Iowa is. This is one of the largest centralized liberal populations in Iowa. And this is what the polling showed, that Joe Biden voters support Nikki Haley. And these are Democrats voting in their public. This is liberal land, right? This is the college town, like, communist Marxist professors. Johnson County.

Story County. That is. Nikki Haley is winning in Story County. Also a college county. And Vivek is in second. That's Ames. That's the University of—that's Iowa State. Why do you think it is that the Democrats generally are supporting Nikki Haley?

Same policies as Joe Biden. It's Hillary Clinton. Yeah, right? She's a war hawk. 2.0. But she's not even like— Joe Biden with a wig on? It's not even a joke to be like, ha ha, she's like Hillary. It's like, no, she's literally got the same

policies. It's crazy. Joe Biden wears a wig. Nikki Haley gets offended if you call illegal aliens criminals. She says climate change is a national security threat. Nikki Haley is straight up on video multiple times saying that Hillary Clinton's her hero. And she worked with Trump.

She was his ambassador to the UN. That's what it was. She was appointed by Trump, yeah. He raised her hand one time. And then was she okay? Was she cool then? Was she the same? Look, it's kind of a bullshit rule.

I think we should defund the UN. I think we should be out of the UN. So you just put somebody there that wants the title. But they don't really do a whole lot. It's part of that liberal economic order, world police thing. I think, look, I think president Trump has been pretty open to the idea of getting out of the UN and pulling out of it. Like it's, it benefits us nothing in zero. So, you know, I want to, I want to jump to a story. We'll keep the results tracking, but this is big news. And as we're talking about Nikki Haley, I think it's important to bring up

this video. Now I'm not 100% sure this is the correct. And as we're talking about Nikki Haley, I think it's important to bring up this video. Now, I'm not 100% sure this is the correct video. Not an accurate video. That's for 2021. That's not an accurate video. Okay, good. Thank you for pointing that out. We have this report from ABC News. Houthi fired missile strikes, a U.S.-owned vessel off Yemen

in the Gulf of Aden, raising tensions. So we're now hearing not only is the U.S. and the U.K. bombing the Houthi rebels, they're firing on U.S. owned ships. They fired on U.S. warships. War is escalating in a very, very dangerous fashion. Even if it doesn't get crazier from this point, and this is the level it's at, trade is going to be heavily affected. The cost of your goods is going to go up. Nikki Haley is the candidate of more war for intervention and lying about it the whole way through. This is why, as I know, we're supposed to be this honorable news program checking the results. No, Nikki Haley is awful.

Don't vote for her. I hope she loses. Otherwise, World War III. So Jason Miller, the Trump campaign ruled out today Vivek as VP, but did not rule out Nikki when asked. Break this down for me. What do you mean? I saw the clip. He was asked, could Nikki Haley presumably be the VP? And he's like, that's in the cards. Or something to that effect. He didn't rule it out. Why?

Well, there could be two things here. Oh gosh, Laura Trump or Kimberly Guilfoyle, they also didn't rule out Nikki Haley. If you look at all the establishment political analysts They're going to Trump and they're telling them it makes Sense. For Trump not to say Yes or no also makes sense for him because He could essentially

Stop Nikki from attacking him during this election Cycle by possibly Maybe giving her a possibility and therefore She's going to have to be careful with the Criticism that she launches against him Strategically when you look at the situation, anything and everything is plausible here. But I think as independent media, we need to send out the message that Nikki Haley is horrible. She is awful.

We talked to Tucker Carlson specifically about this, and I asked him, would you support a Trump-Nikki ticket? And Tucker Carlson said absolutely not. I think we need that message out there more than ever. He said more than that. He said I'd lead the protest against that. I can say this. Trump has always promised that he will fight who's ever in second place.

And for the longest time, Ron DeSantis was in second place. And so Nikki Haley didn't face the ire. But if you're starting to pay attention now, Trump's super PAC's done a couple million dollars in attack ads against Nikki Haley in New Hampshire. And there's a ton of material. Nikki Haley's been public office for over 20 years.

She's 20 years of baggage you're going to go through, 20 years of stupid statements and terrible policies that she supported. And she's about to feel the heat because she's in second now. And she's not going to enjoy being in second. Who knows if she's there for long? Maybe Vivek is the last man standing ultimately after, you know, besides Trump. Has Trump attacked Nikki? Oh yeah. He calls her bird brain.

He thinks that she's a stupid person, so he calls her bird brain. He's not wrong. You know, there's great ads up right now showcasing Nikki, you know, being more concerned about protecting the feelings of illegal aliens than protecting our borders. She really doesn't want you to call illegal aliens criminals. And so she's incredibly weak. And you're going to see a lot more of that, I'd assume, now that she's firmly in second place. I think Trump is the incumbent. It's like a second term president. So like at this point, I hope that he focuses on what and telling us what he wants to do next. Like it is very important. Well, you can go to agenda 47,

go to DonaldJTrump.com and go to agenda 47, every policy position for his next term for next administration. And I can promise you that he's already been doing a great job of looking at staffing for the next administration, because that was something that, you know, it could have been a little bit better in his first term, obviously, and he's taking it very seriously for this next term. It could have been way better the first time, but I get it. They were like, I think Don Jr. was on the show being like, you know, you get in there the first time, you're like, whoa, we won. We've got three weeks to staff this. People are telling you, pick this guy, pick this guy, pick this guy, and you're like, I guess I'll go with. So I think –

We assumed that you have an R in front of your name, you're on our team. That's what we thought. And, you know, he got in there, and then early on you learn that's not the case. And so he found out who his friends were. He found out who he can trust, who he can put in these positions. And he's had four years to think about it. He calls this period that we're in right now a pause period. And, you know, he's very excited to get back in there. Yeah, his VP pick is going to be crucial. It's going to be

absolutely critically important to see his trajectory. And for my vantage point, an anti-establishment figure makes more sense than an establishment figure, because if someone in the establishment, they're just going to take him out. It's quick. It's easy. The CIA has hard attack guns decades and decades ago. It's guaranteed. So we like to talk a lot about this. If it's a very strong anti-establishment person, they're going to have to think twice. It has to be someone more radical than him. It has to be someone who's willing to speak on the issues a lot more aggressively than he is

and also kind of be different than him when it comes to some of the things that also divide his base. You mean Tucker Carlson? Yes. Absolutely. But let's talk about where we go right now. All right. If Ron DeSantis, Michael Malice tweeted, shout out to Michael Malice, he says he doesn't see how Ron DeSantis can continue if he comes in third behind Nikki Haley.

There's a little bit more context there. But it's an interesting question about what happens now in New Hampshire, where, supposedly, she's polling at 30%. In the CNN poll. Yeah, I don't know if I believe that. St. Anselm has her at 22 and Trump up 26. So, and in the CNN poll. The 530 aggregate is 30.3% of Trump's 43.4.

That's shocking. Are Democrats allowed to vote in New Hampshire? I don't know. Yeah, they are. And that may be. And independents. But they're expecting, I mean, they're factoring incredibly high turnout. I think the record turnout for Democrats in a Republican primary is like 35% with Democrats and independents. I do want to just point out, man, free state project.

Guys, what are you doing? What's going on in New Hampshire? Voting for Nikki Haley? Yikes. It's a weird state. It's a weird state. It's a great state, but the way, I mean, they have Governor Sununu currently as governor, and he is a rhino's rhino. And so.

So do you. He endorsed Nikki Haley too. So with that polling, I don't see Nikki Haley dropping out. I don't see, Ron DeSantis is polling in it. And Nikki's got money coming in. Ron's got money running away from him. What person would be dumb enough to invest in Ron DeSantis after this performance? I'm just, man, Ron DeSantis really just

set himself ablaze and ended his career. I just look forward to reading all the obituaries written about his campaign tomorrow. They're going to, they're going to. He's done.

Yeah. Now look, he's still within like what, 17 votes of Nikki Haley. If he finishes in second, he might be able to limp on. But he's going in the wrong direction. Well, no, I mean, it was actually a little bit worse a moment ago. Okay. So we'll see, but he's down, he's down, to limp on. But he's going in the wrong direction. Well, no, I mean, it was actually a little bit worse a moment ago.

Okay. So we'll see, but he's down, he's down, he's down. We will see. Trump's already got 12 delegates, they're saying. So we'll see, man. Still 2%. It's kind of sad, isn't it? Yeah.

The promise of Ron DeSantis and his governorship. But I do think it's fair to point out two things. The reason why Florida is doing so well, everyone likes to attribute everything to the executive. It's the legislature. Florida's got great representatives and state senators. It's a ruby red state. And that, right, when these people pass bills,

Ron DeSantis gets to sign them. So here's one to watch, the governor's race, the gubernatorial race. Oh, Ron DeSantis has taken second place. Okay, wow. There we go. Look at that. Now he's actually up by, what, 17? Hey, it could turn around for him. Maybe he'll build a line. But anyway, continue. Sorry, wow. There we go. Look at that. Now he's actually up by, what, 17? Hey, it could turn around for him.

Maybe he'll build a limp. But anyway, continue. Sorry, Benny. Oh, it's just, so now that Florida is a ruby red state with a ton of power and then projected power, right? So when the census comes, the state will get four new congressional seats and so forth, and the government will be insanely powerful. Ron cannot run constitutionally, and that race is already heating up in the state of Florida

as a Florida resident for who's going to take that role. You're going to see some big names throw their hats in. What does Ron do after this? I have no idea. I mean, everyone thought— Well, he started this new college in Florida called New College of Florida, and it's like the new Hillsdale College. Is that for real? He will likely appoint himself to the president of that role.

Can you explain to me where Rob came from, calling him Rob? Just to mess with him. Okay. And again, that's something that's so stupid, but they got so upset about it. Yeah, the trolling from you guys was making them insane. You got to know the Chinese are very good at trolling. Well, it's not just the trolling from you guys was making them insane. You got to know the Chinese are very good at trolling. It's not just the trolling. Literally any even slight constructive criticism of Ron was met with his campaign people online diving all over you.

So this is what's fascinating. I know ALX, my executive producer, comes on the show with regularity. This is something that we would track all the time, obviously. Is when we did it, it's not just trolling. You said slight trolling. Not even slight trolling, like constructive feedback.

When we didn't say something about a big news story about Ron DeSantis, we'd get trolled. So when Kim Reynolds endorsed Ron DeSantis, there was a bunch of. So when Kim Reynolds endorsed Ron DeSantis, there was a bunch of stuff going on. We didn't mention it in our feed. And the entire DeSantis team came scorched earth for us,

like tagging us, naming us, because we didn't talk about Ron DeSantis. You didn't like my post. Right, it's crazy, man. That's insane. Yeah, so it's not just trolling him. Not even if you just didn't talk about him. Just not acknowledging him. That's insane. Yeah, so it's not just trolling him. Not even if you just didn't talk about him. Just not acknowledging him.

That's right. Wow. It's very mean girls energy. It was very like a prepubescent high school acne energy. I've never seen a campaign like it in my life. I've never seen anything like it. Yeah, so that's my question, I guess, for the table is, is have we seen, have we seen anything this bad before? Have we ever seen a candidate with such high hopes fall so spectacular?

Jeb Bush. Well, Jeb, to make matters worse, Jeb Bush's senior advisors were trolling Ron DeSantis two days ago. Wow. Wow. Well,

look, look, Ron is now up by 65. This is more spectacular than the Jeb Bush thing. Jeb actually at least was running against the first time. They're running against an incumbent, so it's kind of like, what's the point? This guy has got it in the bag. It's his second term.

But I think the thing with Jeb's campaign is the big problem is it was Jeb and his campaign. Like, who's going to – it's Jeb Bush. I love the exclamation point. There's so many issues with him. But when Ron DeSantis, particularly when he was first running, before everyone had this bad taste in their mouth left by his campaign, it was like his to lose in a sense. Yeah, he was a superhero.

It was his campaign came and his people just totally destroyed any momentum. You know, look, for the longest time, I've not just I, but many of them talking about where are the young, where are the millennials to step up and enter politics or even Gen Xers? Because for the longest time, we have like what do we have accepted in octogenarians all throughout Congress? is I've been saying that it seems like, for whatever reason, the millennial generation doesn't take their role seriously. They don't view themselves as leaders, as people should be in charge. And when you look at the Ron DeSantis campaign, it is the made-for-home movie version of, say, Home Alone, like Home Alone 1 and 2 classics, Ron DeSantis campaign, Home Alone 3. Have you guys seen Home Alone 3?

No, what is it? It's horrible. It's kind of a joke, butrible. It's kind of a joke, but I mean it as an actual analogy. In the first movie, and you have Donald Trump in the second movie, one reason I bring him up as examples, it is a high quality production with music, acting, it's

memorable, it's a classic film. Catherine O'Hara. Right. John Candy, I believe, right? I don't know. That was number one. That was number one, right. And then in Home Alone 3,. That was number one right yeah, and then in home alone 3 It's some B-list actors. I Scarlett Johansson's actually in it and like a very small role so hey shout out there No, no way, but um it's okay the first one is a kid gets left home shenanigans ensues That's about it burglars try to come in he's trying to fight them off home alone

3 is an international band of terrorists are stealing nuclear missile codes from from some device of sort, and he has to stop them, but his mom is home. And it's low quality. It's garbage. So now that I've made the silly joke, I've mentioned this. When Barack Obama, watch his announcement speech, when he's announcing that he's running for president back in, what was it, like end of 07 or 08 or whatever? I don't even remember. He's standing in front of a crowd of 10,000, 20,000 people, and he does this very charismatic thing

where he goes, and that is why I, Barack Obama, am running for the United States. And then the crowd just goes, and they're screaming. It's this historic moment. Ron DeSantis announces his candidacy on a crashing Twitter space going, well, I'm here to lead the great American comeback.

And that was it. And it cut out. We couldn't hear it. There's no video. There's no crowd. There's no rally. There is no historical moment other than the failure of it. It's so poorly done. Also, Luke, I need that notepad to

play out exactly what Ron DeSantis did because I was listening to it. The first one crashed. Then they restarted the space. Did you join the second space? Did anybody here listen to the second space? So the second space, what you hear is the actual that space didn't crash and you hear Ron DeSantis reading from a notepad

his speech. Which fine, read a speech. Most politicians do read speeches. But you don't do that on a Twitter space. You're stupid. Why would you do that on Twitter? Why don't do that on a Twitter space. You're stupid. Why would you do that on Twitter? Why don't you even understand the medium you're talking on? So I'm going on Tim Pool IRL.

That's the show I'm on right now. Tim Cast IRL. Tim Cast IRL. And why would I? What you don't do on this show is play a xylophone, right? And that's not. That's like late night on Friday. Ian might actually do that.

If you got one, I'm 100%. Why don't you study the medium that you're on? But he just started into a scripted speech. It made no sense. I was like, he's done. He's doomed. I was listening to it in our kitchen with my wife. I was like, he's doomed. He's over. We played it on air.

Tim DeSantis is claiming the election is rigged. Who? What? Jeremy Redfern. I'm at a precinct that hasn't even voted yet, and the media is trying to call the race for Trump. Well, only 3% of votes are in. It was weird to see Trump at 1%.

This is his official press secretary from his official office, and there's ethics issues, but we're not going to bring that up. Here's the tweet. I am at a precinct that hasn't even voted yet, and the media are trying to call the race for Trump. It happens all the time. Yeah. That happens all the time.

Right. It's only 3% reporting. Actually, especially in states with different time zones. So the other half of the state, if a time zone splits in a state, you'll call the state, and half the state hasn't even voted yet. That happens. Oh, is this a tweet from Wesley Hunt getting attacked? Yeah.

Oh, wow. Wesley Hunt tweeted this. Is it violent? I didn't watch it all the way through. Let's pull up this clip. Here we go, ladies and gentlemen. This is a tweet from Wesley Hunt. Let me slow down here.

Great dude, by the way. He says, tonight at the Timberline Caucus, as I spoke on behalf of President Trump, an enraged man attempted to stop my speech. He shouted Trump was racist. You know, the same tired trope we've heard over and over. But on this day, of all days, Martin Luther King Day, the people of Iowa, just like President Trump, judge me not by the color of my skin, but by the content of my character. The anti-Trump movement is in full-blown meltdown. So let me, uh, let's play this. Well, this is four minutes.

Do we know what... Yeah, about a minute and a half in. Minute and a half? And this is from someone on the DeSantis team? They say he was a DeSantis supporter. Thank you. Now, I'm a military guy by trade. Come from a military family.

My dad's a retired colonel. My husband went to West Point first in my family. I went to West Point. My brother went to West Point. There were 60 years. He rushes the court. How can a black man today

today talk to us about racism. How can a black man talk to us about racism? How can a black man talk to us about racism? What's going on? What's going on? How can a black man do this? Wow. What did he say? Goodness.

So how do you know this guy is connected to DeSantis? I'll just say this was a text I got. He said, a DeSantis supporter. He said, how could you do this on Martin Luther King Jr. Day or something like that? Is that a white guy? No, that's not. No, no, no.

This guy right here. I know. I'm sorry. I mean, me and Seamus had more This guy right here. I know. I'm sorry. I mean, me and Seamus had more serious arguments than that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they went at each other. I don't see skin color. Is the guy who's yelling at Wesley Hunt also a black man?

He appears to be. Right. I can't. It's hard to tell. But is that his point, that Wesley Hunt is betraying Martin Luther King or whatever, something like this? But how? Who knows?

Okay. He said something that bothered the audience, but we missed it. How dare you? He's racist or something like that. Shout out to Martin Luther King. Let's uphold his vision. Well, I think he's getting a lot of flack right now. I think the important thing to recognize too is

there's a lot of people in history. People need to know the truth about, and if you don't really pay attention, you might just believe the simple things of them. A good example is like Sheik Wavara. Like, that dude was like a really bad guy, but young people just wear his shirt all the time because they don't pay attention.

That being said, Martin Luther King Jr. had some great points, but I'm not going to sit here and try and adjudicate the whole debate that's been going on, but a big thing happening right now is criticism of MLK over a lot of stuff that he was involved in. I don't know. I don't know about it. I'm sure the FBI knows about it since they were spying on him and then recording his private conversations with his mistresses and then playing it to his wife when he was in jail,

trying to, of course, get them divorced as, of course, a court in Memphis actually found the U.S. government complicit in the assassination of MLK. Well, take a look at this. It's on Twitter, on X. The FBI tweeted, This MLK Day, the FBI honors one of the most prominent leaders of the civil rights movement and reaffirms its commitment to Dr. King's legacy of fairness and equal justice for all. There's a community note that reads,

The FBI engaged in surveillance of King, attempted to discredit him, and used manipulation tactics to influence him to stop organizing. King's family believed the FBI was responsible for his death. So shout out to community notes on X. It's not that they believe. There was an actual court case in Memphis in 1999 that looked at all the evidence,

and a jury found the U.S. government complicit in the assassination of MLK. They paid a civil fee I think this they won they won a hundred dollars, but the one hundred dollars was just For the court proceedings to kind of move forward. I got I got some bad news for you, alex Ron's actually pulled ahead of nikki by by a good amount. Well, we'll see what happens as long as nikki loses tonight I'll be happy. Otherwise, I kind of really don't care. The idea of anyone losing to Nikki Haley is just so depressing.

Oh, poor Vivic. I honestly, it even makes me sad to see Chris Christie lose to Nikki. It's just like, so brutal. There's only one winner, and that's whoever gets the most. Everyone's a loser, except for DJT at this rate. Game first, your last.

Don't want to let this slip. The FBI pre-wrote the suicide note for MLK. Is that correct? Yep. And they were encouraging him to take his own life when he was going through a difficult time. Yep. They sent letters saying, you've got to off yourself. You've got to kill yourself.

You're a horrible person because of so-and-so. Signed FBI or what? No, no. The FBI literally was running psyops on MLK. Where do I know this? The FBI's own files. So the FBI has released these files, and they're available on the FBI website.

And the agents who did this were never held accountable. So this was the beginning stages of the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover, who also was a person who was probably being extorted as well for the dresses that he was wearing. But that's the start of the FBI. What are they doing now? RFK Jr. was just asked about the wiretapping recently, and he defended JFK and RFK Jr.'s wiretapping of MLK.

Wow. Really? He said he needed to do it. Yeah. Why? Which is crazy. He's in a tough spot. There's something strange happening

to RFK Jr. I don't know what's happening to RFK Jr., but there has been a huge turnaround in his kind of team that is very kind of bewildering. He was on, admittedly, and we found this out through the documents, but before the documents came out,

he said he was on the Lolita Express with Jeffrey Epstein and his wife all the way back in the early 1990s. And that's what he admitted to. His father was attorney general overseeing the FBI's operations. And so he's being asked to defend his late father. Right. I suppose would be the Bobby Kennedy actually going on. JFK Jr. RFK Jr. is being asked to defend his father's actions. He must have signed off on this. You'd have to assume.

I mean, I don't know. But you'd have to assume in some level his father knew about what they were doing to MLK. And so RFK Jr. in a tough spot. I mean, it's your dad who met his own untimely demise. I mean, obviously, you know, tragically and horrifically. So it's like- Probably at the hands of the intel agencies.

Yeah, they said it was Sirhan Sirhan, some wild guy in a kitchen. But, fellas, I do have to bounce. All right, man. I'm going to celebrate a victory. And... Appreciate you hanging out. As you can see, it was very close. We are waiting.

Get out of here. Hopefully the vague can come by. She's going to be here in a few minutes, according to a text that I've been receiving. A few minutes. I don't want to give false hope, but I think 8.15 was the call time. But we'll see. We'll see. 8.15 was the call time?

Yeah. So one minute ago, he's... To Vivek's credit, between the three candidates that are behind Trump right now, he significantly spent less money and is probably overperforming that his predictions were early in the cycle. And also, Nikki Haley's voters, a lot of them are probably Democrats. Yep. So, you know, I don't even consider her votes to be actual. She's not convincing anybody but the Democratic Party to vote for Nikki Hillary.

Vivek also worked very hard hitting the ground gate here more than I think anyone else. And it's crazy, you know, when Ron DeSantis does an event and he meets people, the people that he meets typically don't like him. Vivek kind of is charismatic and he has something called Riz. These videos, what's this video where the guy in the wheelchair getting thrown out of the DeSantis event? What was that?

So there's a meme team, it's called the Dilly Meme Team, and this guy in a wheelchair showed up at a DeSantis event wearing a Dilly Meme Team hat. And because he didn't like his hat, he got out of there and then there's another guy Matt Kim is that his name yeah he got kicked out yeah these guys didn't do anything they just showed up and obviously they're critical of DeSantis on the interweb and I kind of wish I went to it I want those events I texted you two

photos from from the caucus event of Nikki Haley voters, and so you can give people sort of an image of – I have – Do they have blue hair? We have a production team here, and they're at different caucuses. Can you tweet them? I can't pull them from my phone on the screen. Got them. If you tweet them out yourself, I'll pull up your Twitter.

God bless you all. All right, man. Thanks for hanging out. Thanks for coming out, guys. I suppose if whoever is waiting in the wings wants to jump on while we're waiting for Vivek, unless he's here, you guys want to rock, paper, scissors for it? Josie's right here.

Alex Brusewitz, ladies and gentlemen. Josie, the redheaded libertarian is jumping in. Josie, how's it going? I'm going to pull up Benny Johnson's Twitter. I'm tweeting it right now. He's tweeting it right now. What's your analysis, Josie, on everything? Yeah, you're sitting there watching.

Grab that mic. Talk to us. I just want Nikki to lose tonight. Amen. Well, I're sitting there watching. Grab that mic. Talk to us. I just want Nikki to lose tonight. Amen. Well, I think we're good. I think if anything is worth celebrating, it's her defeat. And look, there is a funny thing about watching Ron DeSantis lose to Nikki Haley, but

I really want Nikki Haley to come in fourth. I just want everyone to be like, nobody wants her. Get out of here. Is this because people are genuinely concerned that Trump will be taken off the ballot somehow? Like, are people, is that actually like, I mean, it's not a rhetorical question, but like, is that. Well, is what? What do you mean? The threat that Trump will either be removed legally.

No, I know. But what do you think would, like, what would that explain? Then the next runner up would be the number one candidate, the frontrunner for the Republican ticket. Cassandra Fairbanks had another tweet, too. We have these images that were showing of these Nikki Haley voters. And it was a guy with a peace sign tattoo voting for Nikki Haley and Cassandra McDonald. You know, she works here.

She's great. She was just like, how are you so dumb? Like, Nikki Haley is the warmonger candidate. Like, what do you think is going to happen? It's probably some old boomer Democrat with a peace tattoo from their hippie days. Yeah, now they're in the corporate chill days, I guess. Unfortunately.

Yeah, but look, you know, if Nikki loses, which she's going to, there's no way she's winning, then we all have reason to celebrate, I guess. But it is what it is. Just say you're a misogynist, Tim. That's right. Well, I suppose,

hoping Vivek pops in any moment, let's talk about this story here. We have this from Taylor Hanson. Tenant Media, shout out. He tweets, I'm on my way home to Salt Lake City, Utah. I noticed six illegal immigrants are also boarding the same American Air flight. Looks like I've got some new neighbors.

I want to pull up, I'll pull up the tweet. Maybe they've pinned it. I don't know where. Okay, Tenant's covering all the caucus stuff. There's a video that, oh, holy crap. Iran has allegedly launched an attack on a U.S. consulate in Iraq, is it? Well, those were the original reports, but the Iranians are now saying that they're attacking a rebel group that is against Iran inside of Iraq.

So far, we have not gotten any confirmations that U.S. targets were picked out here. Wow. Oh, and Vivek was hitting another caucus site, so he may be much later. Well, C'est la vie. We have this story from Tenet Media. This is crazy, and we should definitely talk about this pertaining to the U.S. elections. Last night, Tenet reporter Taylor USA confronted multiple SATX police working a side gig where they're helping facilitate human smuggling at the Migrant Resource Center in San Antonio, Texas. The officers are seen wearing their official SAPD uniforms,

driving work vehicles, and holstering their service weapons while accepting money from alleged cartel-sponsored NGOs to guard the facility and check illegal migrants' wristbands upon entry. We tended to reach out to SATX police for comment on the situation and received no response. The story is massive. It's got 2.3 million views just on the single tweet alone. And this is what I was talking about. The fear of what happens when law enforcement is committing crimes. What happens? These are, what is it, San Antonio police using police and publicly funded vehicles, weapons, and equipment to help facilitate cartel, alleged cartel, human smuggling operations.

We got that report just last week. The DOJ is suing Texas because Texas deployed armed soldiers to block CBP access to the river. You now have a bubbling conflict between corrupt law enforcement facilitating human trafficking and smuggling and law enforcement at the state level trying to stop it, where does that go? I defer to the states. The states have a duty to defend themselves.

Right. But what do you think happens if the federal government doesn't back down? And what do you think happens if Nikki Haley wins? It's an interesting conundrum for the federal government. Hopefully their goal is to support states' rights, ideally, is cohesion, and you don't want to press the states away. And also they're dealing with geopolitical nightmare with this, like you're talking about the Houthis, what's going on in Ukraine and Israel, all these things. Hopefully the United States does not push the issue on this. I mean, Texas made very clear. Okay.

What does that mean? The United States. They are actively facilitating human smuggling into this country and have been for several years. The charts show that there's no way it's an accident. The rates are double, triple, or quadruple what they were under Trump and under Obama. So it's on purpose. And the only state doing anything, somewhat, is Texas, while the other states do nothing. Kind of made me think about the American Civil War.

I was thinking about the Emancipation Proclamation and how Abraham Lincoln was like, hey, all you slaves in the South, you're free. And kind of like, and by the way, if you want to fight for the North, go for it. All these illegal immigrants, if the federal government were like, hey, all you illegal immigrants, you can have citizenship if you want to fight for the federal government, if you know what I mean, kind of thing. Like if there's a, just to like disincentivize people from trying to create some sort of civil war in the United States. We talk about this quite a bit on the show, but we have you here, Benny. I'm curious your thoughts on the on this border issue, right? You've got state level fighting with federal officers to the point where they're armed soldiers deployed against federal

law enforcement. So all of this goes back to the 1960s, Cloward and Piven and the communists who sort of wrote the neo-Marxist vision for America and how to bring Marxism to America. And one of the number one things you needed to do was balloon the welfare state large enough so that it actually collapses the federal dollar and the federal government's capacity. That's the number one way to create crisis. America would never be conquered. This was after World War II. So how do you actually bring down a behemoth like America? How do you bring down the beast that is America? You have to destroy it from within. You have to give it some type of horrible malady and swell the welfare rolls so big that the federal government can never afford it. And then that will create, of course, the millstones of high taxation and inflation that grind the middle class and you get no middle class.

And so the way that you swell the welfare rolls is to bring people here that don't speak the language, that have no skills, that can't get jobs or are having language, that have no skills, um, that can't get jobs or are having a tough time, you know, or, or, or can't work legally, uh, but are accessible, are able to get on welfare programs. And California is leading the way in this. And that's the way that you actually collapse the United States of America. I think that's the ultimate strategy here.

A lot of people are like, well, they'll vote Democrat. I think, yes, maybe, yes. But the real goal is the collapse of the country as we know it. And that was the vision set out by the theorists, the Marxist theorists, neo-Marxist theorists, who Barack Obama is the acolyte of. Do you think that they're making this decision to let these people in on accident? That it's like toxically compassionate or are they actively trying to destroy the country? It's not compassionate, it's child smuggling. This is the most horrific thing that a human being

can do to another human being. I mean, it's awful what's happening. I guess, but once they hit the border, they're like, at this point, they're here. The idea that like, well, we can't turn them away. That kind of toxic. That is what creates it. Why not?

Like, why can't you turn them away? I mean, you can, but another country, every other country in the world turns away. I mean, go check out the border with Egypt and Gaza. But it's not just that, and that is true. Egypt and Gaza is a great example. It's not just that. It's why the U.S. doesn't pay ransom to terrorists in the Middle East.

It is well known for the most part, I don't know, Biden may have changed some of this, that if you are traveling around, I don't know, Syria or something, and you get kidnapped, and you're an American citizen. The people kidnapped you know the U.S. doesn't pay. They send a bunch of heavily armed dudes from from a Blackhawk in the middle of the night to kill you and anyone in the building with you. But European countries will pay the ransoms instantly. What happens if you're Spanish or German? You're a huge target.

You if you're a journalist from Spain or Germany, a national and you're traveling around the Middle East, they are looking at you. You cost $4 million. They know that's the guy to get. Then there's an American next to him. They go, not that guy. They'll just kill you. If the U.S. is basically saying, borders open. If you're here, I guess you're here.

What happens? Some dude in Honduras goes, well, if I go there, they'll let me in. Might as well go. If the strategy was, we've blocked it off. Turn around, good luck, you're on your own, not our problem, guy in Honduras is like, there's no point in traveling 1,000 miles, they're going to turn me away. That's why I call it toxically compassionate. It's not real. It's like compassion to a fault.

Like, we can let everyone in. It'll be okay. It's not compassion. It's the opposite of that. And to Tim's point, the CIA usually gives the money up front to the terrorists, and then that's usually how they get their cut. They don't rely on, you know, killing people and kidnapping them. They just get the money up front.

But if you look at what's happening here, again, this is a deliberate plot here. This is a deliberate plan to not just create future Democratic voters, but there's a larger, bigger agenda here that has been weaponized against the American people that is causing division, that is causing strife. I think a lot of this is planned. I think they're trying to get as much of it done before this next election cycle because they know this is going to be one of the key issues

that they're going to be recalled for. And when they do, they want to make sure they have enough people here for whatever reason. Some people say we need military fighting age males to fight China or Russia. Some people are saying we might need these males to fight the other faction inside of the United States, maybe a part of take a drink civil war that could potentially happen as well. There's different theories out there, but the theories are legitimate because it's not

for the benefit of the American people in any way. You kind of look at it. The possibility that the Biden administration invokes the Insurrection Act against Texas for blocking federal agents at the border. I would defer to the Constitution on this. So it's the federal government's job, Article 4, Section 4, Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution to protect the states from invasion. However, when you jump to the 10th Amendment, the 10th Amendment says that if the federal government is failing their own responsibility and the article doesn't say that the states cannot take up the responsibility, then that responsibility can be taken up by the states

or by the individuals. And that's really key. I think that we're going to start seeing some really interesting. What if under that argument of Article 4, Section 4, the Biden administration says we are protecting the border by having our troops, our CBP and our law enforcement at the border, and Texas is blocking us from enforcing our constitutional duties, thus engaging in insurrection? Ken Paxton has an 80% win rate against the Biden administration. So he's

pretty, pretty, probably one of the smartest people in the Constitution that I've ever come across. So we're not talking about the like the legality of it. Norms are breaking down. The idea that the Texas National Guard was deployed armed to block access to federal law enforcement. The concern there is at what point do both sides assert jurisdiction over the same area? And when that happens, who's going to try to arrest the other? Or does this really just come down to Biden administration just backs down instantly and says, we don't want to fight. We lose, you win. This is exactly what happened in Fort Sumter that kicked off the Civil War. An argument over a military base where a localized militia

started fighting federal forces. The Union forces were occupying Fort Sumter. After the secession, South Carolina said, you are not welcome to be here. Leave. The Union forces were like, it's our base we built and paid for. You can't secede. It's illegal. We're staying. And I think the only actual death in that conflict

was an accidental death on the side of the Union. I could be wrong. I read a bunch of articles saying no one really knows who fired the first shot. I'm simply saying territorial dispute over federal jurisdiction is what kicked off the Civil War, what is seen as historically kicking off the Civil War. But here's the best point. After that, we historically look back at that date and say that was the start of the Civil War. However, the actual first bloody battle was the first battle of Bull Run,

which even after the battle at Fort Sumter, local residents in the area did not believe Civil War could happen, even though we believe it already started, and were picnicking watching the first bloody battle, which was chaos. So we look at this border issue, this jurisdiction issue, and perhaps that's it. Perhaps all we get is a standoff, which is happening now already with federal law enforcement, Texas National Guard, and we think nothing of it. And even after some CBP guy shoves a National Guard guy and then they try arresting someone and we're like, wow, they're fighting. We still don't think we're in it. And then maybe after this, Texas deploys armed national guard to the border to block a bunch of Biden vehicles that are trying to come

in, resulting in actual shootouts. And then we say 100 years from now, it started when the Texas National Guard deployed armed soldiers to block federal agents from facilitating human smuggling or whatever. So here's what I see. So in the constitution, the federal government's jurisdiction over the border is literally just the naturalization process. That's it. That's all that's written in there for them is the naturalization process. So it would say, you know, for that instance, that the states would be in charge of everything else, except for when there is an invasion. So I think what they could do is they would have to declare an invasion. The federal government would have to say, well, there's an invasion now.

And then they'd go in there, they'd send their troops in and handle it by just continuing to do all the bullshit that they're doing. Yeah, the difference of the Civil War in the 1860s and now is internet video because we're not passively watching stuff happen. We are crafting it as we go. Like, I don't know how many people are watching right now, 50,000 people. More than that, 80,000. Like, I don't know how many people are watching right now. 50,000 people. 80,000. Yeah.

Like the amount of consciousness that can be tweaked by our conversation literally is never in the human history. And maybe that's like part of this desperation of this time in human history is that we have this Internet video for this purpose to repurpose, to create mass formation in like a good way. I disagree. We may be reaching our live concurrent audience between like 80 and 83,000 individuals, but shortly, you know, 20 years ago, it was millions for these very limited networks. And the only difference is the geography of the viewers. So if you go back to the 1860s, people would be saying the same thing. Wow, we can reach 100,000 people with the printing press instantly. Who would have ever thought we could influence so many people by printing papers rapidly on these machines and distributing? But the issue was geography. So the people in these areas, you could reach 100,000 by circulating

papers. We're circulating this show to, you know, it'll probably end up being like a million people, but they're spread out. So the big difference is, whereas with the civil war in this country in the 1860s, it's geographic, it's North and South. So yes, ideas are being spread in those isolated areas. Now you're going to have pockets all over the country of different factions. And that's what we see in other countries and have seen in other civil wars. I think though, if you know, long distance is free now, you can make phone calls. You can do video chats with your friends and out of state. The diaspora is, is, it's very clear. And, and 20, 30 years ago, this show would have been shut down 15 minutes in because of what we were talking about. Like the ability to like, if go right at the situation and describe it to people, it has, it was called golden handcuffs, and that's a common phrase. What would happen 20 years ago if you were on a cable network channel and you had a panel show where they expected you to say, you know, Nikki Haley is the best or something like that,

and you went off the rails, they would let the show happen, and then later they would tell you, hey, you know, we're actually going to move your time slot, but we don't know exactly what we're going to do, so we'll let you know. You're under contract. You can't quit. They're paying you a lot of money, but you can't produce any content.

Golden handcuffs. They'll sign you for a few years. Then they'll tell you to wait. If you try and produce anything else, they'll sue you. They tried it with Tucker Carlson, taking a show off the air, but then saying you're under contract, you can't do any work. And he said, try me. Back in the day, without Twitter, he'd be gone.

And here's the issue. Tucker gets the ax from Fox News. If this was 20 years ago, what's he going to do? Go to CBS. They'd say, we can't hire you. We'll get sued by Fox. He goes, we can't hire you. We'll get sued by Fox.

Today, he goes, I'll make my own content on Twitter. And then Fox says, we'll sue you. And he goes, go for it. The other networks would have basically just teamed up with Fox and locking him up and preventing his voice from being heard. So in that regard, I agree with you. This is something new and powerful that's breaking that dynamic. That being said, that control that they had back then, that was something to behold.

They could snap their fingers and have 100 million people believe the most crazy nonsense instantly, and they've lost that power or they're losing it. Yeah. It's really wild to look at the centralized control of the free networks that you would get. Even if you had a TV, you didn't have to pay for ABC, NBC, or CBS. It just comes standard with the TV in every American household. And PBS, I suppose you can include that. And how every single night they were all on message. It was absolute government programming. Like my childhood, of course, it was in the 80s and that was just pure government programming. All news. Yeah, this is something new. This ability for the human to tell you what I think,

it's not to be trifled with. We should respect it and use it to its ultimate. Luke, was that like the zenith of Operation Mockingbird, right? Would be like 1987, where every anchor was on message, where every outlet was free and broadcast directly into a million households? That wasn't Operation Mockingbird. There was other congressional hearings that actually did find out that there was CIA agents at the top of almost every major news outlet that were pretty much calling the shots and directing people to publish news that the CIA wanted them to publish. Now we're seeing a different kind of version of it with these same kind of intelligence agencies influencing social media and the algorithms and what people can and cannot say on those particular platforms.

So they changed the way that they do things. And instead of just going to these network heads, I think they're still at the network. I think they're just expanding where the media and information is expanding. And what we're getting now, other than in a limited way, kind of Rumble and Twitter, is curated content that I think they centrally control in more ways than one

that we even don't understand as of yet just how sophisticated their manipulation of information is as now. So to answer your question, they manipulated, the CIA manipulated what we saw before, and now they're doing it again with the exception of Twitter and Rumble, which are directly under attack by the establishment right now. So I think this is why there's such a fervent fight to take those institutions down, because then when they're down, the establishment could pretty much do whatever they want to us. But now that they're up, I think this is one of the big things that is stopping a big kind of event, a big kind of October surprise.

And a lot of the same old tactics were changed up. So when we have the next big thing to changed up so when we have the next big thing to deal with when we have the next big psyop it's going to be far more complicated than what we're used to dealing with and have many layers to it where even our reaction uh being skeptical of it could be playing along with the larger game against us as well so I'm trying to think of this as as how they're playing all this out how could they they get away with this? Because they are very maniacal. They do think many steps ahead of us, and they do try to control and limit what we can and cannot listen to.

Let me pull up this story, speaking of what Luke is talking about. It's a tweet from NBC News. A network of public interest groups and lawmakers nervous about former President Trump's potential return to power is quietly devising plans to foil any effort on his part to pressure the U.S. military to carry out his political agenda. So quiet. Sounds like a conspiracy news. It's I mean, I guess the only reason we wouldn't call it a conspiracy is that they're publicly admitting they're doing it. Yeah, exactly.

I'd said earlier that we've seen this one before. It was the Time magazine article after 2020. After that election, it was a very similar headline about how they saved the election with a shadow government. The shadow campaign to save the election. If you click on the article, you could see NBC News trying to justify this by fearing that Trump is a danger to democracy. So they're making the argument, therefore, we have to take down Trump in order to save our government, which is absolutely ridiculous.

I think it's in the comments of the original tweet, but it's Amuse, which is at Amuse, and he says the person behind it is Mary McCord. Yep, this one. He says, reminder, the woman behind the coup planning reported on NBC is Mary B. McCord, who served as the acting assistant AG for national security from October 2016 to 17. You may recall that she reviewed and approved FISA warrants to surveil Carter Page, a former Trump campaign aide. The FISA court, which approved these warrants in 16 and 17, later criticized government officials for providing false and misleading information about Page

and the infamous Steele dossier. McCord is mentioned in the Justice Department Inspector General Report, which identified significant errors and omissions in the FBI's applications for warrants to surveil Page. McCord approved the fraudulent FISA applications against Page. Later, McCord was appointed to advise the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court as an amicus curiae. Her role involves providing advice and expertise on matters related to foreign intelligence collection. Today, she is organizing the effort to strip Trump of his power as commander in chief. So, is that a coup? Yeah, that's a coup.

She sounds like, I wouldn't call her the queen of the swamp, but maybe like a princess of the deep state, this woman here. And, you know, that's what they have. They kind of dip into, they have their group of deep state, and then they just dip into them and put them in different positions all over the government. So she's one of them. So somebody to watch for. Dictatorial ways.

Trump will use his military if he returns to the White House. Their fear is, it's not the military. I mean, there's two things. I think their fear of his use of the military is going to be withdrawing forces and not engaging in this liberal economic order stuff. But then I think their big fear also is the criminal prosecution of them, the corrupt actions they took in 2016. And I got to say that may mean that Donald Trump has information

that may lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton. I don't know if any information will ever lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton. Yeah, I did like that he walked back the retribution rhetoric a few days ago. I think it was two or three days ago. He mentioned that he wants to focus on building something great in the future and coming together.

And, you know, maybe too little too late. He's already been pretty plaintive that he wants to go. I don't know what he said exactly, but harass them. Get back. I don't know what he wants to do. I don't know what he wants to do. This story is a kind of huge, huge admission here because they're saying we're quietly working to subvert Donald Trump if he becomes the president of the United States.

They're not being very quiet about it. Exactly. They're kind of, you know, telling. Publicly declaring. They're arrogant about it. Yeah. So, again, this also brings into question who's really in charge if you're the president of the United States. Is it the bureaucracy that's embedded within Washington, D.C.?

Is it the deep state? As, of course, they're trying to solidify decisions before Trump is even in office, before he even makes them. And to give Trump some credit here, Yoel Harari, the second in command to pretty much Klaus Schwab, a head guy at the World Economic Forum. I'll call him whatever I want to call him. He doesn't deserve it. I'll call him whatever I want to. Russell Brand could kiss him all he wants. I'm not going to be kissing his butt here. Yoel's the guy at Twitter. I'll call him whatever I want to. Yoel's the guy at Twitter. Russell Brand could kiss him all he wants. I'm not going to be kissing his butt here. Yoel Harari came out and said that if Trump is elected,

that he will be dealing the death blow to the global order. Those are major statements made by Yoel. Yuval. It's a statement, Yoel. It's Yuval. Yoel. And they are very indicative to essentially a lot of powerful people. I actually think it's extremely important people know the guy's real name is Yuval Harari.

Oh, whatever. Yuval Noah Harari. The Time magazine article actually goes on to list everybody involved because they were, you know, had to celebrate and congratulate each other. It says there was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes. Whoa, big batch of votes just jumped in right away. Does Chris have more than three? From 4% to 26% in the New York Times.

Ron Asante is still in second place with 5,824. Nikki Haley with 5,450. Vivek Ramasamy with 2,274. Percentages have all remained relatively stable. Chris Christie has 13 now. Wow! He got 10. I don't know if he can afford to fly all those people out for dinner. Yeah, it's a lot. He's got a lot of weeks.

He'll just have dinner for 13 people. Josie, I wanted to follow along with what you were saying. Yeah, yeah. Any other Tuesday, you know? All right, I'll do that again. All right, so there was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs.

Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse little noticed joint statement of the u.s chamber of commerce and the afl-cio published on election day both sides would come to see it as some sort of implicit bargain inspired by the summer's massive sometimes sometimes destructive, racial justice protests in which the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump's assault on democracy. Wow. I wonder if they called the race for Trump because all the reporters at the precincts

just saw a bunch of people wearing Trump signs, chanting Trump over and over again, and they're like, ah, he won, it's his. Yeah, so it was a handshake between business and labor is what they're saying. So that's the deep state. When did that happen? That was 2020. It was right after the election. Time magazine posted.

They actually, you know, it says a pact, how I read it was a pact. It actually used to say cabal. Cabal. Cabal. And they went in and fixed that. I think they took that word out. The Yuval Noah Harari said that about Trump, that he's the biggest threat to the new order. Is that how he worded it? The new. He will deal the biggest threat to the new order. Is that how he worded it?

He will deal the death blow to the global order. That was Yuval. Yeah, this is Yuval Noah Harari. The death blow to the world order. So these World Economic Forum people are trying to build a new world order out of our liberal economic order. So this is what happens. They create the liberal economic order. You can read it on their own websites, on the CFR website.

They talk about the creation of the liberal economic order. It's the financial systems that they have in place. It's SWIFT. It's IMF. It's the World Bank, et cetera. And then you end up with this viral video of George H.W. Bush saying, we can begin to see a new world order. New world order goes from being just a descriptive, like an adjective on world order into a specific

proper phrase, the new world order, which becomes a conspiracy theory. But what I think really happens is when people started correctly pointing out that these powerful individuals were trying to develop a new type of liberal economic order, what they did was they insert lies. This is one way to control when people are getting too close to the truth is you take control of the movement, of the theories of the anger, and steer them in the wrong direction. So then New World Order becomes some weird conspiracy theory. They start injecting fake ideas into it to distract everybody.

And then New World Order turns into a conspiracy theory phrase that becomes rather meaningless to the average person, and they dismiss it outright. Like globalist. That was another word. Globalist. Globalist. They said that was an anti-Semitic slur. And really what it is is, what it looks like is a bunch of international

corporations and the people that run them and the international monetary system and banking system out of Switzerland. I don't know if it's only out of Switzerland, like Davos. They meet at Davos. It's a lot of these people you consider globalist because they don't adhere to any one country's laws. It's definitely concerning.

I think that Yuval is not wrong. I don't know if it would be a death blow, but he would be a twist of fate, and it would create a new type of challenge to this handing over of American wealth, this $35 trillion that we've printed, the $1.6 trillion they just authorized Congress to use next year, $1.6 trillion. That money, I mean, going to the Ukraine, a lot of it went to the Ukraine. It feels like it's being siphoned, that the United States is being siphoned out. They're done with this husk of a country to lead the world order.

They want to do some new country or new, probably corporations run the new world order, I think, is probably the recipe of the day. You guys ever see those fake viral videos that are super annoying where it's his family and they're walking on piles of $100 bills? There's a video of them and a big tractor trailer full of just probably $50 million and $100 bills, and it's pouring out and they're throwing it in the air. It's a really annoying thing. It's on Instagram because people watch it because they think it's real. It's fake.

But someone took one of these videos and the Elon Musk parody account posted, you know, breaking secret insider footage from Zelensky's home. And they're walking through just piles and piles of hundred dollar bills and money's just thrown all over the place. Because I think that's how we actually view what's going on with Ukraine, whether it's actually Zelensky or just a money vacuum to steal our cash to fund a waste of time. Like, I don't know if we can stop it, man. This is part of what concerns me. I'm not going to scream no. You know, there's better ways to twist and jujitsu the energy away from the creation of something you hate than to scream no. But like, what, I mean, do you guys, I'd love to hear your

thoughts. Well, they did just say that Switzerland's going to broker or they asked Switzerland and China. Was it is that right to broker a deal with Ukraine to broker peace? Well, the specific news article is Zelensky asking Switzerland if they could hold peace talks and involve China in it. That's the specific news report. All right. So that means hopefully this is the end of the Ukraine war and sending them money. I mean, ideally, if I want to be an optimist. Maybe the end. But then what will happen is if they use BlackRock to try and rebuild the country, you might end up seeing American money go to the rebuilding of the Ukraine, too.

You will regardless. No matter what happens, it's going to be more American money for the rebuilding of Ukraine. And it's not really you might consider it American money because we, the taxpayers, have to suffer as a result of the siphoning. But, you know, you might also argue that it's global money on loan to us. Like the Federal Reserve loans us promissory notes. In 1913, man, they took our ability to create our own money away from us and gave it to this quasi-private company called the Federal Reserve that gives us promissory notes that will promise to pay them their money back. So all this U.S. dollar stuff is just... He's confiscated the gold.

Benny Johnson's got to bounce. I've got to bounce. He's taking off. We've got a whole team here. And we've got to go. Thanks for coming in. We're just... I'm sending messages back and forth, and Vivek's team just says, give us a few minutes, give us a few minutes. And they're an hour behind, but I can't blame them. They're running a caucus. It is what it is.

But, Benny, thanks for hanging out. I will leave you here to fight the new globalist world neocon order. Thank you. Thanks, man. And, of course, I will join you at any time. We do have Phil Labonte. Freedom Tunes is one of the best YouTube channels on Earth. Please subscribe. And then please also subscribe to Benny Johnson. Thanks for hanging out, man.

Always a pleasure. Awesome to see you. Great to see you guys That was fun Phil Labonte is going to jump in He's been sitting there waiting And in about 10 minutes we're going to jump to I will call them the Physical super chats

Of the people who are hanging out and want to ask questions To everybody we've got hanging out There were several politicians who were slated to stop by Who did not make it, unfortunately. I'm not surprised, though, considering the weather, which kind of sucks, but it is what it is. We came down, and Vivek, of course, was supposed to be here at 745. And, you know, what are you going to do about it? He's out campaigning, trying to get people to caucus for him.

It is what it is. It be what it do. And, okay, it sounds like he's not coming. So is that he's not coming? He is not coming. Well, I'm not surprised. I'm going to be completely honest. Coming in fourth place with 7.7% after all the work he did,

I don't know what he would be doing right now. How many of the votes are in? With 37% of the votes in, Donald Trump with 22,000, Ron with 8,005, Nick Yale with 81. She's right behind him. And Vivek Ramasamy with 3,259. So I kind of figured this might be... That's unfortunate.

Well, I mean... Yeah, I thought it was going to be a victory speech for him. I was hoping he'd be second. Perhaps he was thinking he was going to do better, and now his priorities are not in coming on a live show to talk about how he's actually losing. I agree, and I get it, but at the same time, I mean, I guess maybe this is just looking at the bright side.

He beat Chris Christie, and Chris Christie's a well-known name. He's hard to beat. Yeah, no, it's true. His run at politics and stuff. Could you imagine Christie actually trying to come out here and go to all the districts? The memes. I don't think anybody worked

as hard as Vivek did in order to get the amount of support that he did, so that's admirable. Look, Vivek was trying to convince Trump supporters to vote for him. That's a ridiculous proposition in the long run. The plan B strategy makes sense.

He's waiting in the wings. He's the bench for 2028 or something like that. I like the idea. But going to Trump supporters and saying, save Trump by voting for me is just like, come on, man. It's not going to work. Especially this early. He's still got a ways until he starts actually having to show up in court and stuff like that. So there's still – it's not set in stone that he's not going to be on the ballot.

Although, I mean, personally, I think that it's likely that there'll be a lot of efforts to keep him off the ballot and whatever they can do, they'll do. But I don't think that it's compelling to the average voter because I think the average Trump supporter is currently still thinking he's going to be able to beat the charges. I wonder what the – so when we were planning this whole thing out, the original idea was to come just for today. And we ultimately decided because of the debate with Vivek, we would do this town hall and have him on. So it ended up working out really, really well. But I'm genuinely curious as to – I mean i'll just say it like when we were planning this with vakes that he would come on the show on monday following the caucus i'm wondering what changed with the results what they expected what happened on the road perhaps it's weather i don't

know but as to why they're like we're not going to make it do the show without him and i'm like okay probably this eight percent i mean it's a gut punch to anyone that was supporting that guy and had hope that That's like... He worked really, really hard. He did work really hard. He went to every county, I think, more than once. I mean, Luke, you were on the road with them two days ago, like 16 hours? 17 hours. 17 hours on the road.

Yep. And you guys drove all over the state? What did you do? What did you do wrong, Luke? No, they drove three hours away to six different events, and then three hours back, which turned into more like eight hours back because there was a blizzard. So we got the super chat. I think it's interesting. Richard Contini Jr. said, I just left the caucus.

Ron showed up. The speaker for Nikki was a Democrat. Trump 2024. Let's go. Hilarious. Yeah. Phil, what's the solution, man? Solution to what?

Bypassing the New World Order, creating a global order that represents American values. You're asking the most black-pilled person sitting here. I'm dubious as to if there is a solution. But I do think that it's not going to be politicians. I think that it's going to be a situation where you have to have people that are not looking to the government to do things for them. And that's going to be, that's something that starts with parents and the way they raise their kids. And, and it starts with culture and it starts, you know, it's not as, as much as I think it's important to have the right people in positions of power, just because of the fact that if you have the wrong people in positions of power, they're going to impose things on your life that you're not interested in.

You know, things that even the fact that they want to impose things on you is bad. They want to impose things on anyone is bad. So, go ahead. No, no, no. Just wrap your brain, Dan, and then I'm going to jump in. It's just that, I mean, you know, that's just – I. So good. No, no, no. Just a rapid idea. And then I'm going to it's just that. I mean, you know, that's just I lost where I was going. So go ahead.

I'm going to ask a different question. Finish a point. I don't want to. If you believe voting is going to save you, you're not paying attention. We need something more than just voting. We need to take personal responsibility for our lives, which I think is more important than anything else. And that is, you know, Mike Cernovich had a great tweet a long time ago. He said, make money, you know, like raise your family, protect your kids.

And that's the first step, something that effect. And he's right. After that, I think culture building, inspiring people, generate what Vivek is doing, going around and spreading this message to all of these young people is extremely effective for the next generation. So that's absolutely fantastic. I'm wondering, however, if DeSantis, Haley, Ramaswamy, and even Trump, if anyone expected the race to be called

literally like 20 minutes in with less than 1% reporting, 200 votes come in, they go, eh, he won. It's over. I can't imagine anybody anticipated that. That was shocking at 1%. I know. Maybe that's why Vivek's team is like, look, it's going to be 745. The results haven't

come in yet. We'll come and talk about it, cross our fingers. Now it's like you've lost already. Like, well, let's go to the party, I guess. This is set. What were you saying? I have a question. So when they called it, they called it at 1%. Less than 1%. Less than 1%. So people hadn't even voted yet. Could that have been like... Oh, they did. They did. Well, no. It was Jeremy Redfern who said that he was in a district hadn't even voted yet. Could that have been like... Oh, they did.

Well, no, it was Jeremy Redfern who said that he was in a district that hadn't voted yet. So could that be a form of election interference to say everybody just go home? No point now, it's called. Oh, that's actually a good point. That's actually a really good point. That's where Redfern said it was rigged. I mean, he's talking about that kind of thing. Yeah, I mean, what's the point? Like if you're waiting at the caucus and then, you know, you're...

You hear that Trump already won. You're like, well, it's talking about that kind of thing. Yeah, I mean, what's the point? Like, if you're waiting at the caucus and then, you know, you're... You hear that Trump already won. You're like, well, it's cold. Pops up on your phone, says Trump won. Then everybody goes home. I mean, that just seemed a little sketchy to me. Wow. Yeah. That's a great point.

I don't like that. But I don't think that's why the results are the results. No, no, that's not why. I have a feeling the powers that be or these people, whatever you want to call it. I don't know what it is, this deep state thing. That they know Trump's going to get the results. No, no, that's not why. I have a feeling the powers that be or the people, whatever you want to call it, I don't know what it is, this deep state thing, they know Trump's going to get the votes. They've accepted that. They think Ramaswamy will actually

disentangle the system, so they don't want to even give him name recognition. And so they're letting Trump get the numbers and then they're going to try and find some way to make him stub his own toe, and then we got, I guess, find some way to make him stub his own toe. And then we got, I guess, Ron and Nikki to battle it out. I mean, going back to what you were talking about earlier with like a global, a globalist agenda, but with American values, I don't think that that's that's possible just because the globalist agenda is inherently like socialist.

And the socialist agenda goes against our instinct to put ourselves first or our families first. It says you have to share everything, you know, and that's just not a natural instinct. So real quick, I pulled up the polling from Iowa from 538, the aggregate polling from 538. And Haley was actually expected to defeat Ron DeSantis by a couple points. So far at 40%, Ron is winning. I don't know if that means anything, but it does seem to be trending exactly as the polls predicted, which is kind of crazy, considering what Vivek was doing, going around and meeting people, and that the fact that he was winning first-time voters, it's fascinating the polls are as accurate as they are.

He spent, I think, $16 million. I don't want to get the number wrong, but he spent his own money, and I think it was that. But this is just that mass of the power of mass media hitler rose to power because of radio and tv like the guy you can drive and spend 15 hours a day every day but if you're not using mass media yeah but think about i mean think about it's first of all it's donald trump who had like 100 name recognition before he won the presidency in 2016. Yeah. And then, you know, you've got all of the things that have happened since he won the first one. I mean, it's not a surprise. Obviously, it's not a surprise that he won tonight.

And it really, if you think about it, it shouldn't come as a shock that he won by such a large margin. You know, he's, again, his name recognition is almost 100%. And the majority of Republicans think that there was at least something unfair about the last election. They they all kind of will. I assume most Republicans kind of agree that all of the different things, all of the mail in ballots, all those sending out ballots to people, all that stuff changed the dynamic so much that it wasn't a standard election. And had it been a standard election, it's likely that Donald Trump would have won. So I don't think that this should come as any kind of shock, you know? When Time Magazine explained that there was a shadow campaign

to fortify the election against Trump, it became clear to most all of them, actually. Oh, Tim's going to pull it up. Good. I remember when I saw that the first time, I was shocked. And I showed a friend, and his reply was, well,. Oh, Tim's going to pull it up. Good. I remember when I saw that the first time, I was shocked, and I showed a friend, and his reply was, well, you know, that's politics. And I was flabbergasted that he said that. I was like, that's really how you understand this,

is that's just politics. They're saying that the government itself was working against the incumbent president, and you're just like, well, that's politics. Well, what's interesting is the headline. It was working against the voters of the country. Fair enough, yeah. The headline, the secret history of the shadow campaign. History.

That's saved. This is established. I was astounded. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe that they had the audacity to print that and then like I said when I told my fairly blue-pilled buddy I was like, do you see this? And he's like, yeah, well that's politics. I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to shoot myself.

You know, the reason I think that a global order that embodies American constitutional ideals is possible is because of the way we've built the United States. It's such a vast territory, but we were able to unify 50 different concepts into one kind of, which would have been thought totally impossible before the advent of electricity or discovery of electricity and advent of radio.

This article is extremely important for everyone who's never heard of to read. It outright says a conspiracy was unfolding behind the scenes to one that both curtailed protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. They say, quote, within days after the election, we witnessed an orchestrated effort to anoint the winner while many key states were still being counted.

That's from Trump. They say he was right. A conspiracy was unfolding behind the scenes. Handshake between business and labor was one component of a vast cross-partisan campaign to, quote, protect the election. An extraordinary shadow effort dedicated not to winning the vote, but to ensuring it would be free and fair, credible and uncorrupted.

This is the epitome of corruption and evil. It is incredible how dystopian it is. It's almost, it's so audacious that you kind of feel like no one would write this in a comic book you know because no one would believe it everyone would be like no that's too they would there's no they would never yeah do that then then write it well to be fair i think didn't lex luther win the presidency legitimately oh wow i think that i could be wrong like in a movie, if a villain did that, they would be talking about it in a boardroom,

not writing an article and putting it online. They put that online, that they admitted it. That was their dystopian victory lap. It was like, you know the evildoers in every single movie, before they lose, they tell their dastardly plan to their victim, and then the animals show up and kill them. What happens?

But they waited until after their corruption unfolded and then told us all their plan. So, I mean, this is what we can expect. This is what they do. It's literally them saying, do something about it. It's just them being like, this is what we did. And you have, there's nothing you can do about it. We're going to go to our live version of Super Chits.

Cool. And we're going to ask audience questions. Clint. Yo, Clint Russell. What up? How's it going, buddy? If anybody wants to ask a question, just lightly raise your hand. We don't want to have people queue up.

Slip a five in Ian's pants. And I will just say, for everybody who's here, we'll try to keep it family friendly, but ask away. We didn't pre-screen anything. We're just going to let people sort of ask their questions. Don't get us demonetized. I'm more worried about the children, but also, yes, we like money too. What's your name? My name is Skyler. I just got verified on Twitter. The pow me a man. Nice. Oh, nice. Congrats. And your question, sir. So this is a question for Luke.

As you can see, I'm wearing my trans-vaccinated shirt. I know you're anti-vax. Will you stand up for all the Zs and Zrs that are trans-vaxed? As long as you're not shedding on me, I think we should be fine, and not aggressing against me in any way

will be cool. We all just have to follow the non-aggression principle, and everybody can get along, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you shed your, you know. Anyway. Your stuff. I'm going to say some things I can't say on this platform.

But, yeah, as long as you don't violate my nap, I won't violate your nap. And we should respect everyone for who they are, especially if they are free human beings that do awesome things and don't spread bad things to other people. I'll keep it at that. We also have regular Super Chats as well, but I don't know if there's anyone else. Thank you for your question. I just got a message.

Somebody said, Nancy Pelosi biographer wrote that Time article. Molly Ball. Why will no one say this out loud? It was her. Pelosi told the story to her,'d bet oh yeah yeah it's it's it's molly ball on the time article that's who it is by yep so that's who that's who it is yep your name sir kyle and your question uh how do you how do like normal people how are they supposed to like consume so much media without becoming black billed

you gotta find like ways in your day-to-day life that keep you sane, like working out, sauna, communication with friends and things that's about real stuff, like your food. That's one way to do it. I think, I mean, if we're talking about

you're consuming legitimate media that is reporting honestly, black-pilling is an individual state of mind, which I would agree with Ian. You've got to improve yourself, center yourself, figure it out. Because I think if you're actually consuming all of the media, we've got tons of reasons to be optimistic. I know Phil said he's the most black person, black pilled,

the most black pilled person here. That too, brother. But, I mean, we're looking at all these tremendous victories of the last year, and now Nikki Haley's humiliating defeat to Ron DeSantis. I mean, I was like, we got reasons to be optimistic. Ron's not going to win either. But with

Bud Light boycott, Target, etc., etc., it's just looking better and better. I mean, look, the fact that Vivek even did as well as he did, and the hard work he's putting in, there is a bright future for us. I think we win this.

It's going to be hard, but I think we win. Lift heavy thing makes sad voice stop. Yeah, I'd go further just to what they were saying is make sure you have purpose. Make sure you love something greater than yourself, and it's easy to not get blackpilled.

Celebrate the small victories and understand that corruption is being exposed, which is a good thing that you're finally being made aware of. I'm going to read a super chat real quick, and then we'll jump to this question. Paul Tascolo says, When Vivek called out eminent domain Carbon Pipeline, they basically deleted him. I was an—how do I scroll on this thing? I don't know if it's letting me scroll here on YouTube. Let me zoom out so I can get the full thing.

I was an ED lawyer for three years. It's deeply corrupt. Everyone is paid off, layered at every level, local, county, state, and federal, and courts. It's a big issue in Iowa that most people nationally don't know about, trying to seize land for, I believe it's to build this pipeline. Is that it? I'm not sure what pipeline, but I agree. I mean, the domain is really, really bad in my opinion.

And Vivek came out, called it out, said, no, you can't do this. And then he's just, now he doesn't appear on the polls or the charts anymore. What's your name, sir? My name is David. Hey, David. Hey, I live in Arkansas now. I came up here hopefully to meet Vivek and a little bigger celebration than we had, but that's all good. I was living in Des Moines in 1988.

1888. And I happened to hear Rush Limbaugh the third day he was on the air picking up a VP for a company down at the airport. And I was a nobody, like I am now still. And he spoke to me. He passed away basically when Biden took office, and you came into my life. And I just want to thank you for being kind of a boomer thing, perhaps, but you are the new voice for me that kind of Rush was. And I'm just kind of interested in if he had any influence on you, your thoughts on him.

I know it's a little generational, but... Yeah, I never listened to Rush once. The only exposure I've ever had to Rush Limbaugh was when he cameoed on Family Guy. That was about it. But my understanding is he's basically the progenitor of talk radio. And so massive respect.

I don't know about anyone else here. Oh, yeah. When I was a kid, my parents used to blare that. For real? That theme song is burned into my head for all of eternity. Y'all are doing a pretty good job of channeling his energy, and I want to thank you for that. Thanks for coming.

I appreciate it. During impeachment in the late 90s, I remember listening to Rush a lot talking about the impeachment stuff for Bill Clinton. My child was like, I thought he was the bad guy because I was like, oh, he's the hateful conservative, the Republican guy. My dad voted for Clinton, so I didn't know any better. But I appreciate what he did big time now. Right on. What's your name, sir? My name's Roy.

And the question? Yeah, the question is, so it's pretty much been established that Nikki Haley is the establishment candidate. You think? What do you suppose is going to happen with her voters? Because I know, personally, a few people that are Haley fans. And they call Trump a felon. And I don't know if they're going to really vote at all this election cycle if Haley isn't the nominee. So what do you think? Have you asked them, like, why they're fans of Haley?

Because they hate Trump. Yeah, but then they could be a fan of Ron DeSantis. He doesn't even come up in their conversations. Nikki Haley. Yeah, the mainstream media pushed her so hard the last four months. That's right. To Clinton voters. All the Hillary Clinton voters. My parents are talking about her and they're like Democrats. It's crazy.

I don't think they understood her connection with Boeing and the military industrial complex. Oh, yeah, but I mean... Democrats love that stuff. Look, I kind of feel like if a Nikki Haley voter is not going to vote, then we dodged a bullet. Let's encourage all the Nikki Haley voters not to vote if it's Donald Trump.

We don't, you know, take their – because they're going to vote for Biden. Actually, this is what I think Bruce Woods was pointing out. Elad Eliyahu, who does reporting for SCNR.com, produced several videos coming out of the Haley campaign events where he just, these are not gotcha questions. He's not a partisan guy. He's got his political opinions for sure that he calls himself the Bolton bro, but he goes and he asks, you know, why do you support Nikki Haley? If Nikki Haley is not the nominee, it's looking like Trump will be, who will you vote for? They say Joe Biden. So they'll probably vote for Biden, but I think that doesn't matter. If you look at the polls, we're looking right now at the Iowa polls

and they're fairly accurate. I mean, they're hitting the nail on the head and that's surprising. I thought Vivek actually was going to beat the polls because he was playing this ground game with younger voters. So far, he's tracking, trending with the polls. So we'll see how that plays out.

But I think if we're looking at the polls and they are as accurate as they've been, younger voters are going for Trump. Joe Biden cannot win. When they put Trump up against Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis, they have some of the latest polls showing what's the percentage going to be Trump v. Biden, DeSantis v. Biden, Haley v. Biden. They all win. Biden loses to every single person. So I think Vivek is right about their play. Nikki Haley is their candidate, not Joe Biden. We're all talking about, oh, Joe Biden's going to get sick in March, maybe. And then maybe they do tap Newsom or something. But the question then becomes, how do you get rid of Kamala Harris? If Biden drops out,

Kamala's next in line, right? It's simple. The Vick's right. Nikki Haley is how you get past Kamala Harris. Have your establishment candidate run as a Republican against Trump, and the real election is the primary. Yeah, she's the uniparty. Yeah. Thanks, man. So I'm glad to see Trump winning, and I hope that remains the case.

But you know what I think, too? Everybody's gearing up for the shadow campaign of 2024. Yo, the shadow campaign may be happening right now. The shadow campaign, we're going to get an article in 2025 and we're all shocked Nikki Haley's the president. And it's going to be like the shadow campaign to win 2024 through the GOP primary. Yep. Name in your question, sir.

My name is Jay. It's kind of spelled like the letter, but a little different. So looking at Trump, you have a 77-year-old who is political poison for some people with the entire deep state weaponized against him. And the CIA has heart attack guns. I mean, not related. Thanks, Luke. That's true.

That's old tech. So if he is taken down, what names are you looking at as people that are up and coming? Who would you attach yourself to? I'll be vague. Chris Christie. His plan to invade Candyland is one of the most brilliant foreign policy interventions I've ever heard. I don't know. Ryan Binkley looks pretty promising. Number five right there. Well, hold on. Do't know. Ryan Binkley looks pretty promising. Number five right there.

Well, hold on. Do we know anything about Binkley's platform? I know he got 266 votes to Christie's 16. What if he's just a really nice guy who loves his state? He wasn't even running. He's just a really nice guy. Everyone knows him. Is he on the belt?

No, but everybody knows him. He's a good dude. I think Vivek's the obvious pitch. The dude is such a hardworking him. He's a good dude. I think Vivek's the obvious pitch. The dude is such a hardworking guy. He's brilliant. And he's got some of the most libertarian pitches that we've seen in any Republican candidate. So I don't see anybody else right now. I mean, I don't think Matt Gaetz is going in that direction.

Matt Gaetz is pretty awesome. But who else is there? J.D. Vance is pretty cool, too. Yeah, Vance is doing well. He's a good dude. I like Vivek not only for his libertarian, but he's very constitutional. If you've seen him speak, he talks about the founding documents, the founding fathers. He knows his history, which I appreciate.

And he knows the real history because everything kind of got switched around in the 60s, if you don't know that. But he knows the real stuff, and that speaks to integrity. I do like a lot of people starting to bring up that DEI is the natural evolution. I like to call it D-I-E. It's way better. Because DEI means God, and die means death, so we'll go with that one. But it's the natural evolution of the civil rights laws.

And it sort of is. It's the extreme version of them. But I always tell people, just because someone corrupted a thing doesn't mean that thing was always bad. You know what I mean? Like, look, maybe cake is good, but if you're eating cake every single day, it's bad. We passed laws saying we don't want people

to discriminate or whatever, and there are certain limitations to it. Back when they passed this bill, nobody thought they'd get rid of women's sports. I don't know if they had women's sports at the time, but nobody thought they would be like, males can use female bathrooms. That's not the intent.

But then you get this corruption through nefarious forces, which start breaking things down, which proves the law is meaningless. The only thing that matters is what a society is willing to accept. And we mentioned a lot. There's these laws on the books,

and there are blue laws, some of them are called, that were made back in the day that no one follows anymore. Like the favorite gag one, which I think is no longer in play, was women can't go skydiving on Sunday in Florida. I think that's – I read about that, like it's been overturned or whatever. But there are weird laws like that. No cop's going to arrest a woman for skydiving in Florida on Sunday.

They should. But when you look at the civil rights law and where it's at right now, we're surprised to see how it's being implemented. And I think a lot of this has to do with originalist versus textualism. the civil rights law and where it's at right now, we're surprised to see how it's being implemented. And I think a lot of this has to do with originalist versus textualism. People who are like, if it says regulated, and today regulated, this is the stupidest argument in the world.

I mean, these people are just despicable. The Second Amendment says, a well-regulated militia. Well, we know what the Founding Fathers meant when they wrote it, but because today regulated means government control, that's what it means. That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard. Why on earth?

Why after winning a war where the Redcoats confiscated ammo and guns from the people of Massachusetts, why on earth would the founding fathers be like, yeah, you know what? We should have the government regulate our guns. That's what we're going to do. That is just so dumb. So dumb. The percentage of votes in went down

by 1%. Did Nikki Haley's number go down? It did a lot. Good. Yeah. They just pulled a bunch of votes back. That is sketchy. Wait. Remember when this happened on CNN and everyone said it was rigged? It was like the vote count for Trump changed

and I'm like, people are saying, how did that happen? I'm like, maybe the AP doing the official reporting said we made a mistake and pulled it back or clicked cancel. I don't know. But it was at 39%. Haley was at 8,000. Nash at 7,000. So I have no idea what that means. But, you know, how fun.

Nikki Haley's votes went down. I've got her at 9,300. You're at 9,300? Yeah. 40 bound delegates. Where are you at? Four? I'm on the New York Times.

I'm on CNN. CNN has Nikki Haley with 40 delegates? No, no. There are 40 bound delegates? Where are you at? Four? I'm on the New York Times. 40. I'm on CNN. CNN has Nikki Haley with 40 delegates? No, no. There are 40 bound. Right. And she's at 9,300 votes. Huh. Interesting.

The New York Times is just breaking. All right. Let's get another question in there. Name your question. She has five bound delegates. My name is Lucas Carter. I have kind of a two-part question. So do you, especially Luke, have any thoughts on the similarity between

Vivek's campaign and Ron Paul, say 2008-12? And do you think as he gets older and is kind of getting out of the picture more, I grew up off of his ideals, do you see him possibly being a Gen Z replacement? At the beginning of this election, I always told everyone that what matters here is not who gets the votes, it's told everyone that what matters here is not who gets the votes. It's the ideas that get pushed. It's the Overton window that gets pushed. I think Vivek's doing a great job at that. There's a lot of Ron Paul people that are within his campaign. There's a lot of Ron Paul people that I met on the campaign trail. So there is a crossover here as, of course, a lot of the same ideas. Not all of them, but some of these great ideas of

freedom, liberty, personal responsibility are being shared here. And those ideas, especially in the minds of young people, are critically important. So I do see a lot of crossover. I do see a lot of actual people that were Ron Paul people here on the ground be a part of the Vivek campaign as well. So there is some crossover. Foreign policy-wise, there's a lot of difference, especially when it comes to Mexico and China. But overall, there is kind of a larger kind of energy that does resonate very similarly. And what? Censorship.

As far as? In terms of the media coverage. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah and then also what what what it what kind of happened to him earlier happened to ron paul uh many many years ago as of course the corporate media was against him and uh rigging the process against him in many unfair ways now to be fair cnn.com has this little widget in the left that only has Trump, DeSantis, and Haley. But when you click it, they don't hide Vivek Ramaswamy. He's included in their list with Asa Hutchinson behind him. So I got to give CNN credit.

The people who are running, they put him in there. What was that? Where's Christie? He's not running. Ryan, those other guys. His plan to invade Candyland. Did you write that last night? You were waiting to say that.

I was waiting to say it, yeah. I was like, when am I going to be able to get that zinger out there? When he funded the coup against the gumdrop princess, I just thought that was absolutely insane. Liberated the fudge swamp. Remember that clip where it was like, who was it who asked him? She's like, you're very overweight Why did you guys it in and he's like Barbara Walters?

He has a Barbara Walters doing hard and she was like some say you shouldn't be president cuz you're always like oh That's ridiculous. She's like why are you so heavy and he's like if I knew I would fix it That's such a sad answer. I mean it might try to everything There's a clip of Ron Paul telling a guy in the audience that he's fat and he needs to lose weight. I remember that. Really? Yeah. He was a doctor.

He said maybe the government should put you on a diet. Is that what he said? Yes. Yeah, because the guy was talking about how government should take care of it. Oh, right. He was so mad. He was so mad. And then Ron Paul was like, you're bad.

The government should put you on a diet. It was great. Chris Christie actually got gastric bypass and just blasted right through it. I'm impressed, honestly. It's true. Your name and your questioned right through it. I'm impressed, honestly. It's true. Your name and your question, sir. Yeah, I'm James. I came down from Minnesota.

I had some time to waste in the hotel. And I turned on MSNBC just to see what they were talking about. And I think it was Maddow said the one feature of the Iowa caucus is anyone can go and vote or caucus in the Republican primaries, even if they don't typically identify as a Republican. Yep. So, wow. That was a component of their plan. There was also, wasn't there some scandal where, like,

DeSantis' team said people from out of state should show up or something like that? I remember something like that. What was that about? It was like Ron's wife or something, right? Yeah, it was misinformation for sure. Like, real misinformation, not the other stuff. Yeah, don't do that. I was that about? It was like Ron's wife or something, right? Yeah, it was misinformation for sure. Like real misinformation, not the other stuff. Yeah, don't do that. I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. What up? Is that an Aaron Rodgers? No, it's not Aaron Rodgers on the Jets now, right? Mm-hmm. Randall Cobb. Oh, okay.

He's on the Jets too now. Oh, right. Well, you know. So my name is Jason Heitman. Tim, you're the first person in my entire life to get my name right on the first try. Oh. When I super chatted.

Yeah. Those substitute teachers really made my prepubescent life hell. Maybe they're doing it on purpose, though. No. They say, like, Jazzen, and then everyone laughs at me and stuff. J-A-A-Z-A-N. So my question, I was really complaining about my state politics here. I'm from Wisconsin, obviously.

And no one's really talking about what's going on in our state right now. I feel like we're losing our state. Last election. I do too. Last election, not a lot of turnout on the conservative side. We elected a Supreme Court justice for our state, a liberal. And she ran on the fact that our maps are gerrymandered. And now they just decided that our maps are unconstitutional.

They're going to redraw the maps for this next election, and all of our congressional seats are going to be up for re-election. Why all of them? That's what I heard. It could, you know, take that grain of salt, but that's what I heard. Did they gerrymander a state? What's that? They gerrymander a state? What's that? They gerrymandered a state? They say that our maps are gerrymandered towards the conservatives after the last census that we gerrymandered them.

So now instead, we always do it every census is we redraw the maps. Right. Now they're saying they're gerrymandered unconstitutional. Now there's a liberal majority in Supreme Court. They're overturning it, and they need to draw new maps by the next election. This could be why the RNC is going to be in Milwaukee. So that'll be interesting. I think there's going to be a push for Wisconsin.

It's a very important state to not let Democrats take over. But, yo, if they pull that, they're taking over. It's a very purple state. I mean, where I live, it's really half. I live by UW- Oshkosh. It's like the north end of the city is very liberal because of the college and the south end is very conservative. It's everywhere

you go, you don't know who's on your side. Yeah, that's how it usually is. The people who do the actual work that makes this country happen vote on the right, and then the people who are in the institutionalized learning facilities vote left. That's the kind of thing that the RNC should be fighting. They should have lawyers. They should be looking to prevent that kind of stuff.

This is one of the reasons why Ron McDaniels is such a failure and such a joke. I don't know why they're not trying to play ball, like trying to defend the system as it is. This is part of the reason why Donald Trump lost is because the RNC allowed the Democrats in Pennsylvania and stuff to unconstitutionally, according to Pennsylvania's constitution, change the way that electors are sent and stuff. It's an absolute failure on Ronna's part, and I don't know why Trump endorsed her.

So frustrating. What article makes gerrymandering unconstitutional? Is that in? They said, from the article I read, they just said that the maps are gerrymandered towards the conservative side. And that, I don't know. I don't remember exactly. They need to DEI their maps. Got it. side and that I don't know I don't remember either maps got it so yeah that

I'm just I'm just scared that cuz we right now our governor is Tony Evers like my dad likes to say I don't like Evers and then our Congress is mostly conservative so it's just like Evers does something we say the Congress says no Congress does something Evers says no there's nothing going on our state right now it's a constant just stalemate nothing's happening but they start to sway their way we're gonna start it's gonna affect us because we're purple I mean we have good strong gun laws but they're not getting stronger and they could definitely go and every aspect we were gonna we're gonna win those fights the Supreme Court for a long time I mean

the current make of the Supreme Court is pretty good for a while. Yeah. And then another thing I'm worried about, our state's kind of being invaded by your old state, Tim. We call them fibs. I'm sure you know what that term means. What is it? F-ing Illinois bastards. I don't know that because I was from Illinois. We didn't call ourselves that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, especially in Madison, Milwaukee, a lot of people from Illinois are moving to Wisconsin because apparently our welfare benefits are better.

Well, also because Illinois is just like a failed state. Yeah. But it's like they're bringing their policies with them. Well, so you should build a wall. So we're planning, highly likely we'll do another show like this at the rnc for that full week so we'll probably have like a series of shows at some you know rented location and then maybe like a bigger show with an audience for thursday with the final day of the rnc and we're definitely not going to the dnc because it's in chicago and i feel like

someone's gonna get shot yep i don even, I'm kind of like, I'm not trying to be cute, man. I think there's a high likelihood of like, there's going to be riots. There's going to be serious injury. Cops are, look, at the no NATO protests, Luke and I were there. The cops arrested a group of leftist activists and detained them for like 10 days

in what's called a black site. That it's basically a police controlled facility no one knows about where these people were detained without word no one knew where they went. And disappeared. They were disappeared. In Chicago we literally had a cop put a gun to my head when we were pulled over. They tried planting drugs on us.

It's not a joke. That's literally what happened. Yeah it's a crazy story and this really happened. Chicago is, the whole place is so dirty. The state itself is so dirty. And the idea that there's going to be a DNC, you know, we went to the DNC at, I think it was, what, 2016? Mm-hmm. The RNC and the DNC were so fun back during the cycles.

You know, like, you know, Jimmy Dore spit on Alex Jones. How fun was that? We were there in that room. We were standing right next to him. Holy crap. And that was at the RNC, in that room. We were standing right next to him. Holy crap. And that was at the RNC, but nobody protested at the RNC. Nobody cared. The DNC, there were thousands of protesters trying to storm the barricades and break their way in.

Yo, DNC in Chicago is going to be bonkers. Corrupt cops, corrupt government, all Democrat-controlled, gun violence. I'm not going anywhere near that place. Naman, your question, sir. My name is Cameron. Before I ask my question, I'd just like to say, as a fine Irishman, I don't see how people could accuse you of stealing spoons, Seamus. Thank you.

I appreciate that because I wouldn't do that, and you know me. Do you use your own spoons, too, is the question. I would never steal a spoon. As an Irishman, I would never steal spoons. God bless you. Thank you. I sense a conspiracy here. It was more of an observation that he did it. On top of being, I would never steal a spoon. God bless you. Thank you. I sense a conspiracy here. It was more of an observation

that he did it. On top of being thieves, they're also liars. Can you believe it? There's a little bit of a bias on this panel. Why do we put up with this? I don't know. First the paddy wagons and now this. It's sickening. That is funny they still call them that, paddy wagons. I don't think it's funny at all.

That's funny. Stop drinking so much. He does think it's funny. He's laughing. No. No, I'm serious. So with having friends that are on the left and that are pretty much in the leftist cult, how do you start them out and trying to move them over at all

when you have articles like the secret history of how they fortified the election and people that, like Phil said, think that that's a good thing. It's super easy. What you do is get a bunch of them, call a bunch of your lefty friends, maybe like 10 or whatever, I don't know, and tell them you've got this great idea for this cool event they should come to. Then you tell all your MAGA friends,

and you trick them all into going to the community center where you lock the doors and make them stay there overnight so they become friends. Yeah. That's all you do. Or you can talk to them. I mean, it's just like the simple answer is kind of boring. Ask them questions, the Socratic method. If you argue with them and tell them that they're wrong or insult them, they'll get

angrier. So if you have friends who are on the left, you can be like, you know, whenever they say something, just pull up on your phone a source from a, like, this is why I always like using CNN and NPR and their sources. I like using corporate press sources to debunk what they're saying. And I often tell people too, they're like, the media never reported this thing. I'll be like, dude, I pulled it up on the New York Times. They reported on it. It's just the Democrat establishment forces will ignore stories from the corporate press. So if

someone claims Joe Biden never did insert thing, I'm going to make sure the report comes from CNN because then they can't deny it. So it's things like that. Other than that, it's tough. The reality is to change someone's mind and help them understand, you need to surround them with people who

will influence them you can if you reorient people towards kind of what occupy wall street was about which is international banking like that really is the biggest threat to our way of life is corporate um i totalitarianism technocracy so there is a there is something that all all americans can focus on at least most americans can focus on that we can agree with, that having corporations run our lives is not ideal. Yeah, and you have to be gentle with how you do it because these people, since at least 2012, 2013,

with the NDAA, they haven't been told they were wrong in a very long time. They've had their confirmation bias inflated for 12 straight years. She's right. You have to let them come to it. So like present them with the idea and then allow them. Don't try to make

them change their mind. Don't try to change anyone's mind. You'll never ever do it. Present them with stuff that conflicts with their preconceived notion and just let it go. Just let them and like you know, don't constantly do it them with stuff that conflicts with their preconceived notion and just let it go just let them and like you know don't constantly do it but every once in a while be like oh you see this or something like that and let them change at their own pace if they feel like you're trying to convince

them of anything the walls go up the heels get dug in the dirt just let them change there's a dude that i'm very very close with that is very anti-Trump and very, very blue pilled. After Joe Biden was elected and after he saw the results, his tone about politics is 100% different than it was right before Joe Biden was elected. And it is much easier to talk to him, but you can't, you never try and shove anything down anyone's throat. Never try and make anyone see things a different way. Just give them the option. Real quick, just with the data coming out of the New York Times,

a lot more of the voters come in. There still is a slim possibility, based on their estimates, that Nikki Haley beats Ron DeSantis. They're projecting Haley between 17% and 21 percent to DeSantis' 19 to 23. I don't think it's likely. And Vivek is still sitting around eight. They expect him to hit around seven to nine. Interestingly, Nikki Haley did end up losing Johnson County, which was supposedly this very liberal area. Trump won. Nikki Haley currently has Story County. And I would also say, it's kind of sad.

We actually saw Vivek doing rather well, but I'm not sure if Vivek actually has any counties in third place. I see him with one bound delegate. Which is good. But I think, okay, here we go. He's in third place in Appanoose County so far and the neighboring Wayne County.

So he does have some where he's in third place. You scrolled over Polk County earlier. Where's that at? It's below Des Moines. Somewhere below there. Congressman Massey had tweeted that, or had shouted out that DeSantis won it. But when you pulled it up, it was...

You sure it's below? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Oh, okay, it is Des Moines, right. Okay, yeah. Yeah, Trump. Yeah, it was for Trump. Thomas Massey said that it was for DeSantis. What? Yeah, I guess he got early results, and it wasn't, okay. It is Des Moines. Right. Yeah, Trump. Yeah, it was for Trump. Thomas Massey said that it was for DeSantis. What? Yeah. I guess he got

early results and it wasn't, though. Massey, Massey. What a silly thing to tweet. I know. We still love you. It's okay. Your question, ma'am? My name is Julie. I'm visiting here from Nebraska, and I just needed to represent the ladies. I don't know if you

guys noticed that there's about a six or seven to one ratio out here, guys. I have not noticed this at all. I bring that up all the time, don't I? No, I point that out on the show several times. Like you go to any like event, sporting event or whatever, it's always like eight to two, four to one. I'm in a metal band. I'm actually really politically active in Nebraska, and then I've come up here to Iowa to work with the Team Trump events.

And I've also been able to go to an RFK Junior event in Nebraska and the Vivex event here last week or on Wednesday. And I just wanted to point out there's a lot of energy at a lot of these events, but they're not people from Iowa. The Iowa people, I think, are, you know, you can't judge by what you see in the crowds. I think that they get oversaturated. I've done the caucus cards,

and there was a couple events where most of the crowd was from Nebraska, South Dakota, and these other states. So I think there is energy for Vivek. It's just not all centered in Iowa. So I think he has the potential to do better in the future. But I love going to these events, but they're very, very, very deceiving when a lot of the people drive, you know. Really? Long ways to come to these, yeah.

The actual amount of people from Iowa that I talk to is probably 5%, 10% of the people that I would talk to at an event. Let's do this. Show of hands, how many people in the room right now are from Iowa? So it was like half? Yeah. Maybe?

Like currently living in Iowa? Yeah. Is that less? Yeah, I'd say about half. About half. And that makes sense. A lot of people drove here from neighboring states or from a few hours out. I'd imagine with internet popularity,

I've talked about this with AOC, and we were talking about it with Civil War stuff. Back in the day, everything was much more regional. AOC, it's not just part of the squad. If you look at where their revenue comes from, their donations, overwhelmingly from outside their own district. They're internet candidates that represent an amorphous, online,

nebulous community with no geographic center point. And even for this show, it's obvious that about half the people are from Iowa, were in Iowa, so it's easy for them to come. Somebody who lives in New York is not going to come to this event. It's too difficult. But people from Minnesota or from Illinois or slightly neighboring areas might take the drive to come visit because it's an opportunity. Same thing's going to happen to Vivek or any other internet-based candidate. I just had one more thing to the gentleman from Wisconsin that was talking about the state turning or being purple. And the best way to change that is to get involved on the local level. In Nebraska, we were run by

pretty big rhino Pete Ricketts. don't know he was our governor and 75 percent of the funding for our party um the grassroots took over um in 2022 and are changing the direction of the party and bringing in more grassroots and there's definitely more energy but the only way you're going to make change on that is at the local level because that's where these laws are voting laws and all those procedures come from your state legislature so don't look past what's going on in your local area and focus too much on what's happening nationally yeah julie absolutely right. It's about getting on your school board, your sheriff's department, your select board, starting there, working your way to state senate, state representative. And that's where you're going to make the changes. When the

communists infiltrated America, they started at a very small level and they worked their way up into the prominent positions in every institution. And, you know, if they're good at anything, it's organizing. And that's what they did. And we can learn something from the communists. Tim, I know you have a hard out in 10 minutes. One more or two more? I think maybe two more if we try and go quick. I mean, I don't know.

We have 10 minutes, but we do have a hard out. Name and questions, sir? Alec, I actually have two questions. Too many. Nope. Next person. I want to step back to the beginning of the show. You guys were talking about the tunnels in New York City.

Seamus, is it like the stealing of a spoon, just happenstance that you dug those tunnels? He used a spoon. Oh, great question. Sick, false accusation. I will not hear it. That's what you took those spoons from. All right, so my real question is we talk about dismantling the corporate governments around the FBI, the ATF, the CIA, and everything else.

I love the idea about that, but I've been reading the books on tape and so on, and there's a lot of things talking about like the dictators down in South America. Was it Condor, Project Condor, wherever it was? A lot of the times you'd have these systems that are being torn down, and often they're being replaced in the back end through other governments, basically, that tear them down. What chances do you think if we had teared down the the CIA, the ATF and all those other ones, would they just be replaced with even more tyrannical and worse people? I don't know about worse, but possibly maybe the same, but it's hard to know for sure.

It just depends on who, uh, it depends on the degree to which we win culturally. If, uh, you know, I think that, that what Ron Paul say, abortion shouldn't be illegal. It should be unthinkable. Yeah. So that's an idea that expands well beyond just the concept of abortion. So many things should be unthinkable to our culture that are becoming permissible, even though people generally don't like them. And so when it comes to we get we elect we elect Donald Trump, let's say in twenty twenty eight, Vivek is the guy and he ends up winning. He's massively popular for whatever reason. And then we get, you know, with Donald Trump. Let's say in 2028, Vivek is the guy and he ends up winning and he's massively popular for whatever reason. And then we get, you know, with Donald Trump, you get the firing of a lot of bureaucrats, the relocation, although Trump has said what he wants to bolster the FBI

headquarters or something. So who knows? But let's say Vivek does start crushing everything. Maybe at this point, culturally, we don't tolerate the existence of these institutions and then nothing replaces them. It just depends. I think the interesting thing to think about is, why is it that in Russia, you can offer a bribe to a cop with no question and no fear, and in the United States, no one would dare do it? The police officer has scruples. It's not just that he fears doing something wrong like that. Some cops will take bribes, for sure. The average cop is like, yo, I'll go to jail. I'm scared. Like in Russia, the cop expects you to give him a bribe.

There's a culture that's different from the United States to Russia as it pertains to what law enforcement is willing or capable of doing. And now in the United States, law enforcement scruples have been eroded. Now you've got cops in Texas who are willing to actually engage in human smuggling themselves. And they don't care why. They fear nothing. So as this continues to erode, if we don't change this mentality, you will get more and more law enforcement behaving like they do in the collapsed former Soviet states, or the former Soviet states,

I'll just call them that. And what's, I mean, look, when you're at the point where cops are like, I will take money to engage in human smuggling and facilitate crimes against this country, that's worse than accepting bribes. So, of course, the FBI is going to have massive corruption at the CIA, of course, the deep state, the intelligence agencies. What solves that is when that cop is terrified, he will go to prison for the rest of his life. And that's a guarantee. You have this video from Taylor Hansen, Tenant Media, shout out, and the cop's yelling at him. The cop is worried he'll get caught. He just don't think, he doesn't think anyone will do

anything about it because the criminals are running the clown show right now. I mean, Biden's in office. It's not going to happen to him. But if people find out, oh, then he's going to get, his neighbors are going to yell at him. So he doesn't like being filmed. We need to make sure, one, we elect Donald Trump. And if something bad happens, you know, God forbid, someone like Vivek Ramaswamy, if not Vivek. And then we make sure each and every one of these law enforcement officers know, scruples are back, baby. We will find you. You will be criminally charged.

And you will suffer the consequences for breaking the law. Then I don't care if we have an FBI or a CIA. I mean, if the FBI was doing what the FBI is on paper supposed to be doing, investigating federal crimes, like let's talk about what the FBI should do. Human traffickers arrested, child traffickers arrested. What are they really doing? Pull rope in a garage, investigation. Donald Trump, orange man bad? Arrest his supporters who are bumbling around on January 6th in D.C. A functioning, legitimate federal investigative bureau is fine. So what we need to do is, it's simple, win culturally, convince everybody law enforcement exists. You will be held accountable for your actions. There is no escaping

it. Thank you much. Right on. Okay, one quick one, I guess, because hard to happen. Uno mas. Rapido, señor. Okay, I'll come back to the caucus here. So I'm Joe, and two weeks ago, a canvasser for DeSantis came to my door. She's from Virginia, and

she's like, who are you going to vote for? Stuff like that. And I said, have you checked out Vivek? And she's like, who are you going to vote for? Stuff like that. And I said, have you checked out Vivek? And she's like, who? She had no clue. I pulled open clips. She flipped. Wow, really?

She had a DeSantis shirt on. And we sat down on our steps. And we watched clips. She's like, I really like this. The old switcheroo. And so what's interesting, so this is a little bit pro-Rebecca a little bit, is that there needs to be someone that is connecting with people on this level that isn't Trump. He's great. We'll vote for him.

But he's coming in behind and scooping up people that don't have this Trump mentality of, no way, never, never, never. But Vivek is actually selling the American dream better than Trump in the sense of his words, showing it with his family, his kids are there. It's a super sweet dream. And it's not Trump like, oh, they hate me. No, it's great. I'll still vote for him.

But I'm saying that he's saying the American dream, make America great again. But a lot of these younger kids don't know what that means. Make America great 10 years ago? Because that's when I was born. Or whatever. You know what I'm saying. So Vivek is actually painting that picture really well. And if Vivek wasn't part of it, then it's just Trump, and then say he gets in or whatever,

it ends with him. But we need somebody painting that picture, so then he scoops in all these other people that will actually go to Trump. I got to say, one thing that was pointed out, I can't remember who pointed this out to us, and they said Vivek can never win because even people who know him can't pronounce his name right.

And the point there is not that his name right. And the point there is not that his name is odd or whatever. It's that the amount of like the fact that, I mean, you called him Vivek, even though he's repeatedly said it's a vague like cake and he has to correct people all the time. It means that he's not pushing information enough to individuals to know enough about him. Donald Trump is unforgettable. His name is known by everybody. When Hillary Clinton made love Trump's hate signs, I thought she was, when I first saw it, I was like, she's telling me to love Trump?

Like Trump is hateful and I should love his actions? I don't understand. Oh, they meant love is better than hate. I didn't understand it because his name is just, it's always going to be the proper noun, paramount. Vivek is doing a lot of great things, and he's spreading a really great message, but I think it is fair to say that one example

of how he's not generating enough is that people don't even know how to say his name. It's unfortunate. It's, I don't know how you solve for that. But I agree with you. I'm hoping he can be the plan B backbench. But we do have a couple of super chats that have pointed out. After this election, Vivek is gone.

And the idea is kind of like, what keeps Vivek relevant after this election if he's not chosen for a position in the Trump administration and is not frequenting the press? If he goes the podcast route, no, that's great. You know, he'll be a podcaster. There's not a path from there back to the presidency. So I'm not sure what his plan is, but I do think he's a smart enough guy to figure something out. The answer is going to have to be if we do want Vivek as the up and coming young stars to look forward to in the future, Trump is going to have to embrace Vivek and offer him some kind of position. Or even if it's not like a direct cabinet position,

it could be some kind of like business consulting position where Vivek is kept in the light so that, you know, going to the next cycle, he's there in front of everyone. You know, he's a musician. I'd love to play, he's on keys. We should get him on keys, yeah, for something, some hot hit song, man. Because I could see that guy just jamming, dude. But I don't know if anyone else wanted to wrap this one up

before we do our sign-off. Anything else to say? Well, in that case, thank you all so much for hanging out for this live in Iowa caucus show. We're looking at all of the other primary events, and we're trying to figure it out because I'm not going to say too much. March, our plan was for this big show. It may be changing.

And I just want to say this. Pittsburgh, it's an impossible city. I guess the leftist influence is too extreme. And the general thing that we're hearing is the venues. I'll be very careful how I say this without naming any individual group. But it would seem they're very terrified of the very active far left contingent. And the threat of violence is legitimate. So I'm not sure that Pittsburgh will allow us to do the show,

because if the venues don't let us in, they don't let us in. Cleveland, Ohio is another option. Perhaps Akron, Ohio. Yeah, maybe Blossom Music Center. That place is hot. We'll see. I got arrested in Pittsburgh. It's not a fun place to be in.

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