Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #944 Biden Staging CIVIL WAR Says Rep As SCOTUS Ruling Declares OPEN BORDER w/Roger Stone

Episode Date: January 23, 2024

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Roger Stone to discuss the Supreme Court ruling in favor of Biden's border control removing Texas' border barriers, Ron DeSantis officially dropping out of the 2024 presidential race, Dana White shutting down a woke reporter after UFC 297, and Joe Biden being left off the New Hampshire primary ballot. Roger Stone is a seasoned political strategist and consultant known for his extensive experience in American politics. Over the course of his career, he has played a significant role in numerous political campaigns, showcasing his strategic prowess. Stone's reputation as a seasoned political operative has made him a recognizable figure in the political landscape. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, the Supreme Court ruled the Biden administration is allowed to remove border barriers in Texas. And now a Louisiana rep says that Joe Biden is staging civil war by pulling down Texas's border barriers in Texas. Democrats are proposing a solution. Federalize the Texas National Guard. Basically, have the Fed seize control of a armed force in the state that is opposing their facilitation of human smuggling. Yo, man. Hey, I know everyone's saying Tim said Civil War. No, a Louisiana rep said Civil War.

So we'll talk about that. Plus, Ron DeSantis has endorsed Donald Trump. This is fantastic. So I'm really excited to talk about that. And Trump says Ron DeSantimonious is officially retired. No longer. They will use that name. And then, of course,

I think the most important story, Sean Strickland got robbed at UFC 297. He should have won. He did win. Someone asked me, they were like, oh, who won the fight? And I was like, Strickland did. And I was like, oh, cool.

Yeah, but they called it for Du Plessis. But we'll talk about all that. I'll just generate some controversy beforehand. I think Du Plessis did great. I'm not a big UFC guy, so I don't know a whole lot about it, but I was very disappointed to see that ruling. Joe Rogan expressed shock at the ruling.

Dana White said Strickland won, and the reason why I am salty about this is Strickland, Covington, these are guys who are coming out, and they're standing up for the little guy. They are pro-athletes who are speaking up, and it's about time we had some of that. And then I watched this fight where a guy clearly wins, but then they call it for the

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I think everybody already knows who you are, but I must ask you to introduce yourself. Let's see, I'm a veteran of 13 national Republican presidential campaigns. I'm a New York Times best-selling author. I'm a believer in Jesus Christ, a soldier in the army of the Lord. I do a daily show at stonezone.com, also a radio show at WABC radio on Sundays in New York. And I have a lot of political opinions. I've been in the business 45 years. With the New Hampshire primary coming up tomorrow, there's a lot of news related to this. Biden's not on the ballot. He's also being challenged

in Illinois. And you're going to have a lot of, you have a lot of insights for us on this to explain what's going on. So thanks for being here. Should be a lot of fun. We got Hannah Claire Bremelow hanging out. Hey, I'm Hannah Claire Bremelow. I'm a writer for scnr.com. That's scanner news. I'm really happy to be a part of that team. Ian's here, of course. Hi everyone. Ian Crossland. Happy to meet you, Roger. Well, I guess we'll get into it on the show. I'll ask you more about your career once we get into it. We got Serge to my right here.

Yo, I am Serge.com. Best, I guess good match to Strickland. He's a great dude. I'm wearing my South Africa jersey because I'm so excited Africa's getting up in the world. He has no choice but to support Du Plessis right mr b's uh girlfriend is south african uh guy won this this uh championship i don't know what the championship was honestly but uh elon musk

we got a lot of south africans i think it was middleweight yeah middleweight yeah and you know what shout out bill tong is based af it's delicious yeah and i think duplass he did absolutely fantastic it was a great fight but i just felt like strickland won but we'll talk about that we will get into it heavily because uh because Dana White is pushing back on some woke reporters who are calling out Strickland's speech. But let's jump into the first big news here from the Post Millennial. Louisiana rep says Biden is staging civil war by pulling down Texas' border barriers. Texas should stand their ground, Higgins posted. This, of course, is in response to breaking news that the Supreme Court will allow federal agents to cut razor wire Texas installed on U.S.-Mexico border. It was a 5-4 ruling, leaving many people shocked.

Texas is being overwhelmed. There's a story. I don't know if it's true, but I'm hearing Mayor Johnson in Chicago is having panic attacks. Is that true? I can double check. Google search search see if you can find that because i heard people talking about on twitter but we know that the mayor is the mayor of chicago new york they are freaking out over the massive influx of illegal immigrants on the border we know it is the worst we have seen at least in my lifetime and it's substantially worse than anything anything we've

seen in the past decade and so you have have Texas desperately trying to stop it, deploying armed soldiers of the Texas National Guard to block federal agents from being able to control the jurisdiction in this area. And now the Supreme Court has ruled in favor of federal agents. This to me looks like a Fort Sumter-esque type scenario where the federal government is asserting jurisdiction over an area. The state is rejecting it. The state has deployed armed soldiers and the feds are now countering.

We're hearing a lot of crazy rumors, but this does feel like it could be escalating to this federal versus state conflict. And with as many states as we've seen who are upset over the massive influx of illegal immigration and the fact the Biden administration is facilitating this, I think we're walking on the razor's edge here. All I can see is that the federal government is intentionally letting immigrants in to later repatriate or patriate them, I guess, give them citizenship to go fight in a war that they're anticipating. I don't understand other than that why this is happening.

Or typically it's to shift the census data, right? It's to say there are this many people here and that's why we should get extra representation in the government, even though they're not here I don't understand other than that why this is happening. Or typically it's to shift the census data, right? It's to say there are this many people here and that's why we should get extra representation in the government, even though they're not here to legally vote. They didn't enter this country legally. I mean, the implications of illegal immigration are really serious. And I think the federal government is actually pushing Texas to more seriously consider secession. They have that vote coming up to consider it in November. I think they're going to isolate themselves from what is ultimately a small country that we're all attached to. I mean, Texas is independently economically viable without the U.S.

Look, it is the policy of the Biden administration to have open borders, period. Joe Biden himself blurted it out three days ago. When they asked him point blank, is the border secure? He said no. And I've said that for a number of years. Well, he needs to tell that to secretary mayorkas plus gene mr gene pierre because that's the exact opposite of what they have said notice what the mayor of chicago said he said this is not sustainable

we're going to run out of money soon because we don't have the money for the social services for this influx of migrants and the answer is to give them citizenship. How is that the answer? When Secretary Blinken met with the president of Mexico in their joint communique, he also implied that the answer was somehow to give this influx of migrant citizenships. Well, we understand that would allow them to vote. Perhaps that's the goal, but I don't see how that will solve the fiscal problem, the fentanyl problem, the crime problem, the fact that these cities, these counties, these states, they're running out of money. They don't have the money to sustain this influx of migrants. I think the money they're looking for is to facilitate more of it.

We've seen for years they've been smuggling children on planes and and transporting them across the country so we we've you know it's funny when we have a democrat come in here and we show like marion williamson we show her the story it's like this from 2021 where undercover video catches them doing this they're smuggling people they're getting away with it the thing about just getting them into vote which they might be doing to make give them citizenship and let them vote is like they could just use electronic voting machines and flip tallies and like cheat the voting systems if they really wanted to guarantee a vote outcome it's not about they don't need to destroy the system within within immigrants so i don't understand they gotta be more than it's a long-term solution as opposed to a short-term

if they were to flip votes that's short-term if you're to bring in people promise them public coffers not offer them executive order citizenship or something, which I think Biden will probably try to do at the end of the year. I think there's a strong probability of it. Then you will get a longer term voting base. But it's more than that. It's that putting these people into cities increases Democratic members of Congress. So if these people go there, the next time we have a census count, which is, I think, what?

It's going to be six years? Correct. No, six years. How many seats will the Democrats get from non-citizens, regardless of whether these people vote, and how many electoral college votes will they get,

regardless of if these people vote? The idea is to just change the basic makeup of the American electorate. Look, my sister's son, my nephew, her only son, who lives here in West Virginia, died of a fentanyl overdose late last week, 38 years old. This has touched my family directly. It's a horrific tragedy. But that's what these policies are giving us. And this

administration doesn't seem to care. In fact, they seem to be promulgating it. I think it's just, you know, it feels like the unraveling of the country intentionally, like a, if we can't have it, then we will burn it down. If we can't have it, no one can, kind of thing. Like a deranged stalker, ex-lover, who's upset that his girlfriend moved on. So he's like, if I can't have her, no one can. They're just destroying everything because they're mad Trump's going to win. Or perhaps more pragmatically,

they're concerned that Donald Trump will win and they will go to prison. So they want to destroy whatever they can to make sure they weaken the machine, which will once Trump is elected, will be turned against him. I mean, the other thing is that they didn't, maybe they never valued the country before, right?

They never valued America at any point. And so the idea that they're like, we don't care that this is destroying anything because we never thought it was worth protecting or saving. They can't see why America is a unique nation and why importing fentanyl into poor parts of the U.S. is a disaster. Right. There's sort of an elitism about it that says this is not something I care about because it doesn't touch my life. And in fact, I don't value this. I mean, it was always what celebrities were like, if Donald Trump gets elected, I'm moving to Canada. It's the same type of mentality. I can leave this behind even if you die from it. But you even have liberals like Eric Adams, the mayor of New York City, who runs for mayor saying he's proud that New York is a sanctuary city. Today, he's saying this threatens to destroy New York as we know it. These mayors, they don't know what to do they can't they can't provide the social services required uh and

people who are legal residents are being denied social services so we can house uh you know migrants now here's my concern you already have armed National Guard armed soldiers deployed to block federal agents. The Supreme Court has now ruled in favor of these federal agents. They can go in and remove razor wire, basically allowing wave after wave of criminal alien entering this country. The Texas National Guard is already defying the feds. The feds have asserted jurisdiction here. Texas National Guard said, screw off. What's going to change? Why would the Supreme Court saying you can remove the razor wire change anything about Texas state law and how they handle law enforcement? Texas has said

it is illegal to cross our borders in this way and we will enforce the law. The feds are saying we can remove this and allow them to break the law. I don't see Texas backing down from this. Texas is going to say, that's great, Supreme Court, really, really great. Good luck removing the razor wire when our guys are standing there holding guns, blocking you from access to the river. What are the feds going to do? Show up with guns and point the guns at the National Guard and say, get out of the way? Is Texas, I mean, fair question texas going to instruct their armed soldiers

you must now evacuate and let the feds come in because it's the order is uh it's a temporary order pending the the ongoing litigation is there a chance that like effectively texas could be held in contempt of court like what are the punishments for not going along with this temporary order pending ongoing litigation what does that even mean when the feds have already asserted jurisdiction on the river and Texas said F off? You can file all the paperwork in the world for injunction. The feds have already asserted it's our jurisdiction. And Texas said, don't care.

Get out with guns. So the only option now is either the only paths forward would be texas backs down and says we hereby respect the supreme court we are going to remove all of our law enforcement we are going to allow wave after wave of criminal aliens to break state law and do nothing about it or they're going to say this changes nothing it's illegal in our state we don't care if the feds think otherwise i mean that's what Paxton said. Attorney General Ken Paxton said, you know, this is this is a temporary order and the litigation is ongoing and we're going to continue to fight this. I mean, he's not saying exactly what they'll

do if they'll refuse to let them take the razor wire out. But he is saying that Texas is not willing to put up with this sort of federal reach. Right. OK, so what are the feds going to do next? There's nothing this this is a classic struggle between federal power and states rights uh but while we're sitting here trying to circle this out how many million more people are going to come into the country illegally and my fear is that let's say donald trump wins in november handily joe biden rubber stamps an executive order granting a quick path to citizenship for all of these people millions at that point would be what 12 to 15 million people and then

there's an instant instantly people say we're suing we're going to challenge this and he smiles and says yeah in two years when this is resolved those people will have already gotten their papers good luck resolving i think we need to set some precedent about how awful uh horrendous unethical illegal that would be for a president to by decree give people citizenship you mean like daca yeah it's a mass swipe of the pen and you mean like it's already been done like obama did with the dreamer with dreamers if it's been done before yeah this kind of thing cannot we can't let that stand. That's insane. That would be insane.

And now imagine this scenario. Joe Biden, let's say it's November 25th. Trump is president-elect. Joe Biden rubber stands an executive order saying, we're going to secure the border, but the compromise will be all the people who are here are granted a standard path to citizenship, which will take three to five months. You mail in your form. It's mailed back.

You sign it. You send it back in. You're a citizen. You'll get your paperwork. And then come next year, it's challenged in the courts, finally makes it to SCOTUS. SCOTUS says unconstitutional and moves to revoke citizenship from 15 million people who were previously illegal immigrants. Donald Trump, as president, says we are going to remove these people who entered this country illegally and were only granted citizenship under false pretenses.

The left then says, look at all the videos of Trump rounding up American citizens and putting them in camps. Dwight Eisenhower deported 1.3 million illegals. It can theoretically be done. And as you have a deteriorating condition in the country, in terms of crimes, drugs, economic opportunity, and so on, I'm not sure that the Democrats will be on the popular side of this. Also, I'm not sure the constitutionality of Joe Biden waving a wand and saying, well, you're a U.S. citizen. I'm not sure you can do that. What about DACA? Look, I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not.

I don't think it's illegal, but I mean, Obama's executive order was, what does DACA stand for? Can you look it up? It stands for Deferred Action on Childhood Arrivals. Right. And so this is how they inch forward. They say, okay, well, you know, if you were here as a kid, it's not your fault. So we're going to give you a path to citizenship. And there's a lot of people who only know America.

They don't know any other country. And so then what happens is people on the right compromise. A lot of conservatives don't. But many on the right would be like, OK, fine, fine. We'll stop there, though. The next step is Joe Biden's going to say it's been a crisis. It's been a disaster. But the amount of money that's going to cost for mass deportations are beyond our capabilities.

The best thing we can do is document these people and then secure the border. And you'll end up getting a bunch of middle-of-the-road people being like, okay, fair, just like when Reagan said he wanted amnesty. And the compromise was we secure the border, but we grant amnesty. My fear is, let me go back a little bit back in time. This is what I've been saying is going to happen with Texas. I said, if Texas is overwhelmed by this wave of immigration, eventually the state legal apparatus is going to assert their

jurisdiction and say, we're going to do something about this. What did we see? State of course, passed a law saying crossing is illegal. The feds said, screw off. We saw the feds trying to remove the board, the barriers and the water and the razor wire. And I said, if the feds keep doing this with Texas saying, no, eventually Texas will assert its jurisdiction and push back on the feds. Then Texas did this with armed soldiers. My fear is how this escalates. And so many have made the point that if Donald Trump moves for mass deportation of 15 million people, when he gets elected, the left will post photos and videos of trains and buses and camps and claim Trump is Hitler. Now imagine if it's substantially worse. And many of these people are granted rubber stamp citizenship by a Joe

Biden executive order unconstitutionally. That doesn't matter to the Democrat activists and lawfare activists. They will just publicly say, look, what is what is Ocasio-Cortez say all the time? Legal asylees, refugees. They're lying. These are economic migrants, fighting age males who are coming here by themselves or smuggling children. And then the media and the Democrats lie and claim they're refugees. So what happens next year when Donald Trump is president and the Democrats just lie and say, these are people who are being naturalized.

These are citizens. Trump is targeting citizens and they're going to call it racist. He's saying he's targeting, you know, Latin American citizens. And they're going to use their rubber stamp on constitutional garbage to try and justify it in the press. Yeah, I think. Hopefully not. I mean, I think the optics would be really bad either way.

And that's sort of something I hope Republicans are thinking about going into the end of 2024, early 2025. I mean, you asked me when the show started to look up if how Mayor Johnson of Chicago was doing. And the first thing when I looked up his remarks are he's arguing that Governor Abbott is intentionally attacking leaders of color by busing migrants to the cities. I mean, it's going to be an ugly and divisive fight between these two sides. The Post Millennial did report it that allegedly there's a reporter who made the claim. Mayor Johnson has suffered multiple panic attacks around, you know, as immigration is

bubbling up. And that's the insinuation for the record on DACA. It didn't give anyone citizenship. It gave a two year stay on deportation for children that didn't have like felonies or whatever. And then what happened um then they tried to propose the dream act which would have given citizenship but that did not pass it would be highly irregular for um a dictator to decide who is and is not a citizen of the

country without legal recourse and there's a lot of things that joe biden has done which would be highly irregular and dictatorial i do love the the meme of they've arrested their political rivals they are trying to put the lead candidate uh opposing the regime into prison all while screaming the other side are fascists yeah the people who are trying to censor and cancer people the people who are who are conducting you know 178 000 illegal surveillances on american citizens uh without warrants. The folks who are trying to lock up Donald Trump, they say we're the danger to democracy, really.

Let's jump to the political world. We did have some other news, but I want to get into the politics because we have this. This is big news, and it tells you a lot that we do not lead with this story. Ron DeSantis suspends his presidential bid and endorses Trump. This happened yesterday afternoon. Ron DeSantis gave a speech where he accidentally quoted Budweiser,

thinking he was quoting Winston Churchill, which I see as a perfect example, a perfect, well, how do I say this? It explains his campaign. Yeah, it encapsulates the whole thing. Yeah. Success is not final. Failure is not fatal it

is the courage to continue that counts winston churchill no in fact that was a bud budweiser ad from 1938 talking about fishermen particularly young men who don't care if the weather is bad they will try anyway and uh well ron sure when we played the video in the car we were driving back home someone actually asked if it was ai yeah i thought so too you thought it was ai yes because he looked so good he was smiling he looked relieved yes i've seen him look in months he looked like wow i'm so glad that this is over he opens with i'm in florida and he's like happy about it he looks like he's about to cry like hitting yourself in the head with a hammer. It hurts so much when you stop.

Look, he always lacked a rationale for his candidacy. What was the rationale for his candidacy? If you wanted the America first candidate, we already had that person. That was Donald Trump. If you have a choice of seeing the Beatles or seeing a Beatles tribute band, which one are you going to see? You're going to go see the Beatles, right? So he never had a rationale for his candidacy other than saying, well, something might happen to Trump, but that something hasn't happened or to the extent that it has happened, it's actually turbocharged his campaign. So he had one foot in the America

first camp, one foot in the Republican establishment camp, but he could never make a case why him other than, well, Trump might be going to jail. That's why it should be me. And that Trump is beloved. He's unlike any political figure we've seen in the history of the country. Let me play a short little snippet from this DeSantis speech. The first snowman in New Hampshire. They are one of the reasons we fight so hard for what we believe in. Winston Churchill once remarked that success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts. While this campaign has ended, the mission continues.

Down here in Florida, we will continue to show the country how to lead. Thank you and God bless. So that was the end, of course, where he quoted Budweiser thinking it was Winston Churchill. But I agree. He seems happier than I've seen him in a long time. I also, I got to be honest, when I saw this, I thought it was AI. I thought it was a deepfake AI generated speech. And some people point out that he flubs a word halfway through the speech. And I'm like, that's actually to me more indicative of it being AI, of it being like auto generated. All you have to do to make this these days, it's really easy, is Ron could stand up, say three sentences.

He could walk up and just go, how now, brown cow? The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. Leave. And then they can make him say anything they want. I am not actually suggesting that's what they did. It's just, I mean, you thought the same thing? He talks like this. And then he'll go on and say another sentence.

And then he'll continue like this. It felt very robotic. And he was smiling. I think, was that not the problem of his entire candidacy the likability that is true is a crucial factor in politics uh and running for governor is not the same as running for president running for governor you can keep the media at bay you have to give that many interviews you can control access to yourself much tougher to do that when you're running for president uh and in this particular case this guy

spent 300 million dollars and he dropped out of new hampshire because he had dropped below five percent of the vote and that was after squeezing out a very narrow but distant second place finish in iowa and he has long-term problems now in in flor Florida where he's hurt his standing very badly. But what the hell is Nikki Haley doing? She's hanging on to try to be vice president is what she's doing. Well, I couldn't agree more. But she is the epitome of the Bush, Cheney, when's the next foreign war wing of the Republican Party. And they, I think, would try to force her on the ticket.

I think she's going to get beat tomorrow in New Hampshire by, I don't know, 18, 19, 20 points. And then we head to her home state where I think she's going to get shellacked. It's not incidental that the governor of South Carolina, Henry McMaster, very good guy, lieutenant governor, most members of South Carolina, Henry McMaster, very good guy, lieutenant governor, most members of his cabinet, most of the leaders, both all the leaders of their legislature were all in New Hampshire yesterday and today campaigning against Nikki Haley. Vivek did it right. Vivek campaigned for the most part, praising Donald Trump's record.

And he actually did not give a good reason for the longest time as to why he was even running. He ran. He said, we're going to do these things. And I was like, these are good things. He defended Donald Trump when bad things happened. And then only towards the end, he said, I'm running because I think the deep state will stop at nothing to remove Donald Trump. And if that's the case, the last thing we want is Nikki Haley to be the only one on the ticket. And I said, that's actually a really good point. I'll accept that. But that but I'll tell you this, I'm voting for Donald Trump. And only in that scenario

does that make sense. And then when he loses Iowa, he drops out, praises Donald Trump, endorses Donald Trump and campaigns for him. And I'm like, that's how you get out of this. He made a name for himself from zero to eight percent. Wonderful job. And now he's launched a budding career. Ron DeSantis went from the shining star of MAGA to the Oscar the Grouch living in a trash can. It is a remarkable feat, to be honest. Well, it's because it denies his origins. Look, Ron DeSantis was a completely unknown, obscure congressman with a bad haircut and a bad suit who was struggling in single digits in a race for governor he was lifted out of political obscurity by donald trump uh 62 republican county chairman the entire republican state apparatus every elected republican the florida

legislature every member of the congressional delegation is republican except for mac gates had endorsed adam Putnam. So Ron DeSantis owed his nomination to Donald Trump and then Trump changed his schedule in the last three weeks of the 2018 campaign to return to Florida three times and literally drag him over the finish line. Wow. I didn't think that voters cared about this.

You know what? I was wrong. Voters do care about this. They care about loyalty. They care about gratitude they care about loyalty they care about gratitude ron was 42 years old he couldn't have waited now i think the flaws in his candidacy would have shown up in 2028 anyway but he's not a viable candidate for 2028 now he could have tried to play it more like vivek did which would have required him to one not attack

donald trump in these ridiculous ways and then he actually would have had to have bowed out it would have been a weird campaign from the get-go considering how long he would people were considering him he was the favorite in the betting odds in january of 2023 yeah leading in the polls he was leading in the polls talk about throwing that all in the garbage and for what but but i do want to stress it was it was uh people like me and many others we we were like we like ron but his campaign is being run by children and whenever we would say something like guys you need to fix this what will be the response of his campaign and i'm not talking about his fans i'm talking about quite literally his staff to attack potential allies

and insult them it It was unusual. I mean, I think, and maybe you have a better insight into this, but so much of the DeSantis campaign to me seemed like it was that pressure that we heard. I kept hearing this over and over again. Well, he has to run now because if he waits, you have to strike while the iron is hot.

If he waits, his name will lose momentum and it'll fall off and he can never have any big opportunities, which seemed counterintuitive to me given that trump had really boosted his career if he had been loyal which is what you hear over and over again when trump supporters are interviewed by the new york times by anyone else they say i've been voting for trump for this long and i know that he can do good things and i want to stick with him they value loyalty and it seems like that pressure to move uh his political career forward went against this

obvious call to loyalty. Well, first of all, he's got two more years as governor, which he could have distinguished himself. If he had gone out and campaigned hard for Donald Trump, he could have earned his support. He could have been next in line. Now he's got a gigantic problem. We have a term limitation of two years there's a senate seat up in 2028 but how does he raise the money what fulcrum does he have to raise the money he's going to have a recalcitrant legislature now because they resent the fact that he's been missing we have an insurance crisis we have a utility rate crisis we have a fentanyl crisis where's ron? Ron's nowhere to be found.

You know what this is? This is Donald Trump is the lead singer in a rock band charting every week with a new single. He finds this guy to play bass. The bass player is standing on stage thinking like, man, they love me. I should start my own band. So he quits to start his own band. And everyone's like, whatever happened to that guy? That's where he's headed.

Wild. It's weird. He struck while the iron was warm. He miscalculated the temperature here. I mean, that's sad. It's no secret that I've been a critic of his wife. I think she drove this decision. I think she was tremendously ambitious

and she misread the moment. It was not his time he had plenty of time so can he recover from this like does he have a a place moving forward in the america first mega movement or it's going to be very much up to him but i mean look he had a super majority in legislature let's recognize he paid a million dollar essentially a bribe to the speaker of the house it's a legal bribe because he gives a million dollars to his political action committee. And they changed the state law so that only one person who holds state office can run for federal office without giving up their state office. So if I was in the state house and I wanted to run for Congress, I have to resign.

But not Ron DeSantis. He can run for president while remaining governor of Florida. Changing the law just for him. It's a bad idea to begin with. Oh, yeah. ron desantis he can run for president while remaining uh governor of florida changing the law just for him it's a bad idea to begin oh yeah he went to iowa during a state of emergency in florida that was that was the last nail in the coffin for me i had been defending like look well we know he's good on policy he did well in florida but his campaign's bad and then i found out he's in iowa it was a blizzard we were that were you by chance? No, I was not, but I remember it well. We were in Iowa, minus 15 degrees or whatever.

Stores are all closed, heavy snow. And Ron's like, I should be here instead of my home state, which is under a state of emergency that he declared. He flies in, declares, flies out. I was like, wow, that's dereliction of duty. I thought it was weird when he went to Japan and was pretending that he wasn't about to campaign you know like there were lots of things that sort of felt disingenuous and i'm not here to be i mean i'm not a huge there are there were some things

about his campaign like some of his immigration stuff that i thought was interesting ultimately he never was who i was going to vote for um but i think what's worse is that we're sort of uh stealing our future i i think ultimately, four more years of Trump and then who comes after that? There has to be a legacy of people to fill these seats when people are term limited and can't move on. Let's talk about New Hampshire tomorrow. I think one of the more interesting stories here is that Joe Biden will not be on the ballot in New Hampshire, which is strange. And there are activists staging a write in campaign for Joe Biden, which surprised me. I was watching Fox News earlier and they interviewed a woman who was holding up a

sign saying write in Joe Biden. I was like, I've never seen a Joe Biden supporter before. I guess there are some when they have to write in. They appear. Yeah. I mean, I guess that happens. But, you know, while many people are talking about what's going on with the Republican primaries, how it's basically a big waste of time, Trump's going to win. And they're trying to keep Trump's name off the ballots in the States. Democrats have just basically shut down their primary, not allowing anyone to challenge Joe Biden. So why is he not on the ballot? And what's the strategy here? They changed their rules. So they stripped Iowa, the first in the nation caucuses, of their delegates to try to discourage them from having caucuses. They didn't have them.

The New Hampshire primary is mandated by New Hampshire state law, not the Democratic National Committee rules. So to punish them for having the primary anyway, they both strip them of their delegates within the convention and biden doesn't put his name on the ballot now new hampshire is a state where writing in a name is really very simple dwight eisenhower won the republican primary there for he wasn't even on the ballot he won his right in 1952 henry cabot lodge won the nomination or the primary there 1964 in a right it's very simple to do now their their fear being embarrassed by this little-known congressman who did file for the primary Dean Phillips who I don't know much about so now they are hustling to get out a vote for Joe Biden well there's Marianne Williamson as well Marianne Williamson I don't believe

Cenk Uygur is on the ballot in New Hampshire either. I'm not following that. I know that he's gotten on in some states, but of course, he was not born in the United States or to American parents. So there's a Supreme Court ruling basically. I mean, there's a constitution saying you have to be a natural born citizen, but there was also a ruling already rejecting his argument as to why after being, you know, Cenk Uygur is arguing that he is a citizen in full rights, the same as anybody else. So he should be allowed to run. There's an interesting argument to be made there, but I don't know if he's going to appear on the ballot. But I would say that if even with this write in campaign, I think it's possible that

Marianne Williamson wins this one. Maybe. I mean, the big tension for me is that now the DNC has really isolated the New Hampshire branch of the Democratic Party. They sent them the assistant. The assistant attorney general sent this letter to them. I think it was like two you hold anything during the primary, it's meaningless and you should not encourage voters to do anything. And this is discouraging people from voting. This is voter interference, voter suppression. And it's really building tension between this party and this national mega group that says you guys have to comply with what we want, even if it's against your state laws. I would say it's anti-democracy, wouldn't you? I would too. I mean, it's actual voter suppression to say it's meaningless, right? That's crazy.

Well, look, the Democratic national selection process was pre-wired. Their first real contest is South Carolina, where you have an absolute majority of African-American primary voters. I have predicted for some time Joe has had the way cleared for him to win enough delegates to be nominated, but that would not stop him just before the Democratic National Convention, which just happens to be in Chicago, to announce that he's decided not to run for reasons of health, throw the to uh to the selection of another candidate michelle obama will say oh i'm not interested i don't want it i don't want it no thank you

i don't want to do it okay i'll do it but what will happen is she'll say oh no no no i i couldn't do it and then you'll start hearing chants of michelle michelle she'll be drafted and she'll smile and then brock will come out and he'll say, I think this nation needs a leader. And I'm going to ask you right now here on stage to take this responsibility for this country and answer the call. And she's going to wipe away a tear and say, I'll do it. And they're going to go, wah! Maybe. We'll see.

Fain becoming like the biggest beta male on earth. He'll be like, I am the first man. I am the first man i am the first man i look i've been predicting this openly for two years i see bill o'reilly had a column today i still think she will be the nominee of the democratic party by the way i think she'll be a very strong formidable candidate people who make jokes about it are making a gigantic mistake i agree like a year ago that's why i pegged too i mean she's got the biggest star name she's got the obama name superstar in her own non-political

not viewed as political one of the most admired women in the country uh i i still think she will be their strongest possible candidate so we we had a we've had a bunch of uh potential particular we've had a bunch of predictions as to what we think may happen one prediction is that nikki haley is is in the bag for democrats who's getting democrat votes and and uh supporters and voters she's getting voters and donors and the idea one of the ideas that vivek brought up which i thought was good is why actually try and win a contest in in november when all you have to do is try and supplant Trump in the primary with someone like Nikki Haley, who is an establishment favorite as well. Now, I don't know if how likely that's going to be. It looks like she's going to get just wiped out and then she doesn't have any opportunity to move forward, especially with the Sanderson Vivek now being out of the race.

It's just her. She's not going anywhere. But then you have the potential of or the question that we've brought up. I've been saying this for some time that Biden will not be the nominee. I think he is going to drop out. I think it's going to be health reasons. A JP Morgan strategist believes that come March around super Tuesday, Biden will announce he's dropping out. This opens the door. So, so many people countered saying, no, they can't Tim it's too late for a primary. You and, and, and the response is that's perfect. It allows them to avoid a Bernie Sanders situation or a Marianne Williamson or RFK situation. It allows them to stop any of these candidates from gaining traction and gaining delegates so that when they, as you describe, Roger, Biden drops out, they can just at an open convention super delegate Michelle Obama or Gavin Newsom. Yeah, they can control the convention that way. But Michelle, pardon me, Kamala Harris is a problem for them because in any normal scenario,

she'd be next in line. She's a sitting vice president, but they also fear she can't win an election either. That would be correct. And within the construct of their party, she represents a very important constituency. She's a woman of color. So how do you justify bypassing her? I think the answer is Barack Obama persuades her that when the first Supreme Court nomination becomes available, if they win the presidency in control of the Senate, she's a former attorney general of California. She gets that job. She graciously steps aside. And we have a ticket that is comprised of Michelle Obama for president

and Gavin Newsom for vice president. And Gavin can raise hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of special interest dollars for that ticket. That's a good backroom explanation. Kamala Harris will be offered a Supreme Court seat, but they're not going to publicly say that. I can no longer perform my duties. I need Kamala to serve as acting president. Kamala simply says, I will not try to seek a presidency when I'm filling this role. It would be irresponsible or, you know, it would be wrong to try and win an election this late in the game.

I'll just do my duties and then bow out. Here's why I don't think that happens. I think Joe needs to maintain the legal authority to pardon his son and his brother and himself and the other members of the biden crime family he's wanted this he's wanted this job his entire life uh i don't think dr jill's anxious to go by any means uh so i think i once thought i once agreed with you i thought that he left early i don't think he leaves early i think he fills fills out the term, but just doesn't run. I mean, they're all one big happy family tree, son.

You know what I mean? Committing treason. So I'm half kidding. Why wouldn't he just, along with his cronies, go to Kamala and say, look, pardon Hunter, me, and anybody else. I'll bow out two months, three months, four months, or whatever. It's all yours. Because it would eradicate her political career. She gets to be the first female president.

Well, if she pardoned all those people, it'd be like a taint on her life for the next 30 or 40 years. Biden's the fall guy. It's not going to be a politics. It did cost Gerald Ford re-election. The pardoning of Nixon. In a very narrow race. By pardoning Nixon.

Had he not pardoned Nixon, I think he would have won. He lost by a hair. He lost a very close race. And that was two years after Watergate. I mean, think about it. Come on. They go to Kamala and say, how would you like to be the first female president in history? Your name will never be forgotten.

All you got to do, pardon the Biden crime family. You're not going to run for reelection. We'll then move you to a Supreme Court seat or something like this. But you will be in the history books forever. She says, deal. Who would not want their name to be on that plaque? Do you risk voters who are wanting the new Democratic nominee to be a woman of color, like splitting the votes at any convention between her and Michelle Obama if you do that? I suppose there is the argument that if Michelle is the is the nominee. They could they would be saying this could be the first woman of color to ever be president.

You have to vote for her and then try and go for the woke angle. That's that's and then you've already done it with Kamala. So it's right. So you burn that one out. But, you know, it's perhaps that I how do you publicly get past Kamala Harris? They've really created an obstacle for themselves, which is sort of hilarious because I think when they started, they really thought maybe she can be the heir apparent. Maybe it'll be fine, which is crazy.

I don't think they thought that. I think they were like, we can't have stodgy old white men with all these progressives. You need a woman of color in there somewhere. Yeah, I think she doesn't even know I should care. I actually think Biden accidentally painted himself in a corner. I don't think it was in the plan. He blurted out, I'm going to have a vice president who's going to be a woman of color he just said it is that illegal violation of the 1964 civil rights act one of these things that have been overturned affirmative action at

that point so you know what it's been driving me a little sideways regarding the supreme court you mentioned that the obamas might go to kamala harris and be like well we would consider you for the supreme court or that they would just put her in the Supreme court. Like do we have nine people making decisions for the entire state of Texas? That's like, I appreciate what it, what it's done and how it stands and how it's questions the legislature and

how it can overturn presidential authority and stuff. But giving this kind of mass authority to nine people that are appointed, they're not even voted into office. They're appointed by some political zealot some president and then confirmed like that's so much power for such a small group of people i don't know it's great i love it i think it's beautiful it's the it's one of the brilliant things in the u.s constitution one of the smartest things as long as the court is indeed not politicized and then when a politicized person gets appointed, they're there for life.

Like there's that, that should be overturned. Like there should be term limits or something. One of the smartest political creations of mankind is the American form of government. And we take it for granted because we grew up in it. But when the founding fathers were trying to put together this system, they really did make the best that has been so far.

Can it be better? Always. There are ways to improve. That's why the Constitution can be amended. So are there faults? Can we improve? We always can. We always should look for ways to do so.

But at the time, the American system of government is a masterpiece. And to this day, still stands as the best form of government in the world. And when the Supreme Court ruled against some aspects of the New Deal, Franklin Roosevelt tried exactly that to expand the court, to pack the court. It did not go over well and he failed. What did he do?

He put forward a proposal to expand the court and it was defeated in the Senate. So there were nine then, there's nine. There's nine then, there's nine now. He wanted more. The argument is that, what do we have, 12 districts? I think that's right. He wanted more. The argument is that, what do we have, 12 districts? How many appellate districts or whatever? That there should be a judge for each region. It's been so long since we've covered this stuff heavily. people who just declared independence. You had the Articles of Confederation. You did not have a constitution. You had a very weak government. And they're trying to figure out like, how do we run this thing? And then someone says, we should have a king. George Washington should be king.

And they're like, no, no, no, we can't have a king because George may be great, but what about his kids and his corruption? Okay. Well, what about like a direct democracy? What if people just voted? No, because then people vote for stupid things and you need some expertise in there. Okay. What about like a council of elders appointed individuals who are of great standing within their communities? And so you have a, how about all three? How about we have a council of elders, a direct democracy, a representative democracy, or I should say a constitutional representative republic and a strong executive we do all three and we make them fight each other checks and balances how about we don't just choose one of these governments we've seen before we do all of them yeah but if we're actually talking about making kamala harris on our council of

elders like what what have we done to our national wisdom no no she's not someone i would think of as like an elder wise man this is the beauty of the system. She would be eligible for appointment and subject to confirmation of the U.S. Senate like any other citizen. And a truly good system doesn't just always have God-tier perfect people running the show. The idea that one Supreme Court justice is bad, I think, shows that there is flexibility within the system. If we had a single monarch, sure, you have problems. You're talking about Katonji Brown Jackson? How old is she? Because you're talking about council of elders.

Like, what's her age? Is she really wise? It is a figure of speech. Yeah, I know. I'm saying. It's not supposed to be, though. It really is supposed to be the wisest among us that sit on the Supreme Court for life.

And people are chosen and then confirmed by the Senate. And the problem here is the 17th amendment should be uh what are your thoughts on the 17th i think we should get rid of it i'm not i think it was ben sass who first proposed not not worth but what is the 17th that the senate is chosen by popular vote in the states as opposed to the state representatives used to be done by the state legislatures the state legislatures would choose u.s senators and then they changed it so they were done by direct election and that's a mistake and this is what causes part of the problem when you have people voting locally for their state reps those reps know about your local issues your sitting member of congress knows a little bit but they're going to dc and they're voting on war and omnibus spending bills or whatever. So if you go and vote for a state senator or state

rep and you say to them, you know, old Crossland Creek over there is full of garbage. We need someone to get the job done. They go, yeah, I've seen it because I live not too far away. Local representation. Then all of these people go to their session and say, who are we going to send to the federal government to represent our state? And they will choose who they think the best person is. This creates state representation as opposed to national Democrat representation. So the problem now is the Democratic Party says we want Democrats. We need statewide voting.

And it's all about some federal policy as opposed to what's going on in your state, which results in senators who will confirm anybody so long as their party line shills. Then you end up with a Katonji Brown who says, I don't know what a woman is. It's like, oh, wow. So that's a problem. I agree. And sure, we should repeal the 17th. I think with the Internet, I disagree.

I like the direct election of senators otherwise you all you get are career politicians there'd never would ever be an opening for anyone else so the politicians basically choose the u.s senators there's a time in new jersey when two brothers were u.s senators at the same time why they were chosen by the new jersey state legislature back in the 20s yeah i i i get that uh i disagree i think i think if if people people no one no one pays attention at all to state representation anymore and so now you get these ads which are remarkable to me where it is a person running for a federal house seat in congress saying if you vote for me i'm gonna fix our district and clean things up no you're not you're gonna go to dc and represent person running for a federal house seat in Congress saying, if you vote for me, I'm going to fix our district and clean things up.

No, you're not. You're going to go to D.C. and represent the district to the federal government. You're going to vote on whether or not we bomb a country or how taxes are at the federal level. You're not going to vote at all on how we deal with garbage in our city. That's a local rep, a mayor, a councilman who does that. People don't care anymore. We could do like an addendum to the 17th Amendment where like state governments will select their senators, but then the citizens have to confirm them to the Senate via a vote. And if they deny that, then maybe the citizens could vote for their own.

Yeah. What about what about the state reps will select and it has to be confirmed by popular vote and then if it's overturned then the populace can vote for someone they want it's overturned the state legislature has to go back and re-nominate and then approve another somebody else i mean that's a step i like that like no names like you were saying can come out of the side lane and be like yo the people love me and i'm the best for the job even though the people at the state government don't know who i am and that person might get a shot at the senate i like that too but i i don't you know you still think you'll ever get you'd never get any outsiders elected

you'd always get people who are part of the system because if the state could just keep nominating insiders over and over you have to keep saying no no no no at some point the population's got to be able to put their own and there's always a family that's involved in state politics or several of them in every state i mean there's sort of a control right let's uh let's jump some cultural news we have this story from scnr.com dana white explains free speech to reporter quote free speech brother people can say whatever they want and they can believe whatever they want so following the fight with uh Sean Strickland and Dricus Du Plessis, Sean had made several statements in the past about trans people and, you know, people who have gay kids and things like that. He mostly called a reporter a weak man who was the enemy. He said that he was there to stand up for the people of Canada, F. Trudeau.

During the fight, people were chanting F. Trudeau. Joe Rogan said, Canada, get your ish together, man. But I love the UFC fan base. I love the fighters. We saw Donald Trump come out at a UFC event, Madison Square Garden, with Kid Rock and Tucker Carlson, the whole crowd in New York City screaming and cheering for these individuals. It's beautiful. And so I'm seeing this stuff and I'm thinking, you know, I've never been super big on UFC stuff, but with these guys willing to stand up for what they believe in, for the fans willing to stand up for what they believe in, I'm getting excited for this. So Dana White comes out and they ask him, this reporter says,

you obviously give a long leash to your fighters about what they can say when they are up there with the UFC microphone. Dana leash snaps back saying, I don't give a leash to anybody. They can say whatever they want.

Now this is a sport I like. I love that. That's fantastic. And then you get Sean Strickland, who was the champ. I say was, I think he still is. And you have this split decision after the fight where they claim he lost the title. And so this is generating quite a bit of controversy. There's a lot of people saying,

grow up, stop being a whiny little bitch. He lost. But I, I, I, I'll just put it this way. And then we can talk about it as a conspiracy theory. Of course, people are going to suggest this, that the reason Strickland was lost was not because he was the worst fighter, but because he's causing problems for the brand. So when people say to Dana White, you give your fighters a long leash. And then he says, I don't give anybody a leash. Dana White actually said publicly, he thought Strickland won the fight, but there are saying on Twitter, and I don't blame them, they're saying that when Bud Light comes and sponsors UFC and one of the champs starts ragging on Bud Light and putting serious pressure on them, there's going to be pressure to get him out if they can to end the quote-unquote era of

Strickland. I don't know that I believe that. All I can say is this. I'm not a big UFC guy. I don't know or care about points and scoring. I get it exists. All I can say is I get really excited when, you know, we've had Colby Covington here in the studio. It was awesome to meet this guy. Someone willing to stand up for Trump publicly with no fear because these fighters have balls and for Sean Strickland to defend the people of Canada, wearing a make Canada great again shirt. I tremendously love and respect the defense of the working people by people in these positions who can speak up and have it have influence. So I say, wow, I got to watch this. I want, I want to see this guy fight. He's the champ. I watch a fight. I watch a guy win a fight. I watched them claim the other guy won the fight. I don't get it.

I mean, I understand why they're claiming he lost. I think it's the stupidest thing ever. And it makes me feel like it's all fake. I don't know. I didn't see the fight. You said he got knocked down five times. No. Strickland.

There were six takedowns. But I'll put it this way. If I see two guys fighting in the street, it's like the average person then says like oh man that guy's beating that guy up that's basically what happened here Strickland was beating the other guy up and then in the end they're like yeah well you know he got knocked out a handful of times and so the judges thought it went the other way so we're giving him that the other guy the fight and the Supreme court of MMA has ruled. I got to tell you, I went to the UFC fight with Donald Trump in Las Vegas, uh,

several months ago. It was an extraordinary experience. First of all, never has there been this much testosterone in one hall, any place in the country. I mean, it was, it was,

uh, an all American, uh, extravaganza. Nobody was, nobody was snacking on tofu. If you know what I mean, it, It was an all-American extravaganza. Nobody was snacking on tofu, if you know what I mean. And the reaction that Trump got was extraordinary, just extraordinary. Now, I'm a big fan of Colby Covington.

I still haven't gotten over the fact that he lost, but you know what? He'll be back. His greatest victories lie ahead. That guy's got guts, and I'm absolutely convinced that he lost, but you know what? He'll be back. His greatest victories lie ahead. That guy's got guts. And I'm absolutely convinced that he comes back. I completely agree. That was another one of these fights. So with, with Colby,

I was thinking he may actually have taken it in the last round, but again, like, I don't know. I'm like, for me, I watched that fight and I'm like, honestly,

I have no idea. In the end, he like the final round, Colby absolutely, you know, I think he won that final round. And then he said he thought he won the fight too. Watching the Strickland fight, I just, that guy won a fight. I feel like this is the kind of thing that Strickland will just be like, and now I'm more motivated than ever to do anything I can to be victorious. I mean, I've only heard him interviewed a couple times I haven't watched UFC consistently in years but

he's a really tenacious person and he is very strong he's a very strong sense of self and I think that really drives his desire to compete and I think that's actually why so many people like him like yes his takes are kind of interesting and not what you expect, but more than anything, he is a person of intense conviction. But as for, I really like and trust Dana White. So there's no way in the world he would wire a fight. I never understood their scoring system. I saw the same fight you did. I thought Strickland won, but what do I know?

I'm not one of the judges. Look at this. All that matters is Joe Rogan apparently agrees, so I defer to him. And if Dana White also thought. This is the story from MMA Junkie. Joe Rogan surprised judges awarded Drikus Du Plessis win over Sean Strickland. It's an amazing clip. I watched it. Rogan normally is commentating on these fights, and when the ruling came down, he says,

Wow. Interesting. Very interesting. I wonder how the people online feel about that because we're not scoring it while we're watching it. We're just having fun. Were we wrong? That's exactly how I felt when I watched this.

I'm like, dude, I bought this pay-per-view thing. I'm super excited to support Sean Strickland. He's standing up for the little guy. It's exactly what we want to see in these sports. I watch a fight. I watched this guy win. It was close. Du Plessis is amazing. It's exactly what we want to see in these sports. I watch a fight. I watch this guy win. It was close. Du Plessis is amazing.

It was a really awesome fight. Strickland, his eyes covered in blood. It was good. And then they're just like, nah, he loses. And I'm like, what, man? So I don't know, dude. I'm just, I don't understand it, I guess. We have this from verdictmma.com.

A lot of people were sending me where you've got a couple different metrics by which the fight was judged and scored, and it looks like the media scored it for Strickland, but the judges went the other direction on it. So it is what it is, man. I don't think it was a... I don't believe that it was rigged in the sense that,

like, Dana White had anything to do with it. Dana White publicly stated he thought Strickland won too. Yeah, that indicates there's going to be a rematch. They're going to create some animosity between the two fighters. Think of the box office on that. Yes. So I say shenanigans. It sucks.

Whatever. He got robbed. People are like, he didn't get robbed. He just lost. I'm like, dude, that's what it means. It was a close fight. We get that. They gave to the other guy. He was robbed, meaning it should have slightly gone the other direction but a rematch

could be really good in that everything strickland got to say will be amplified tenfold when we start building up to a potential rematch which i really hope yeah i was thinking about the uh bread and circus they say in failing empires they the empire gives its citizens bread and circus in order to keep them distracted and fed so they don't riot and then they just and so this is the circus aspect but the difference is that we've got mass media and internet video like sean strickland can make a video and like alter the minds of the masses in a day that the romans didn't have the gladiators didn't have that kind of influence on society or their own instagram pages where they can post clips or them working out or i mean like people become really devoted to a lot of athletes but definitely

ufc athletes who are just like they personify something they aspire to be right they're tough they're strong they're constantly like peak physical fitness and this is a day and age where you can feel like a personal relationship to these athletes in a way that you never have before it's crazy when we had colby covington on i had a lot of people being like oh man because he's such a wild guy and then he shows up and he's the nicest most polite honorable guy and people didn't understand that right that he he's out there he's he's he's being a personality but he's he's a good regular dude he knows what he's doing he's a smart guy he's he's he's i'm a big fan and it was really awesome to get to meet him but i appreciate when you know i see all the time

let me put it this way why i like ufc so much i've been skateboarding my whole life i was skateboarding earlier today tried to do a kickflip pivot slipped out it was fun didn't land it all these pro skateboarders will hit me up being like i'm'm a big fan of your show, man, but I can't say anything because I'll get fired or whatever. I'm so scared. And I'm like, man, it's like these guys who jump off buildings for a living, their balls dropped off. And then I see Colby Covington and Strickland

and I'm like, these guys will shut to the high heavens. F you, I'll say whatever I feel like saying. Now that inspires me. And I'm like, these guys are great. So I like what UFC is doing. As you mentioned, more testosterone. What do you,

what do you say? It's the most testosterone I've ever seen in one place at one time. I'm looking forward to seeing more of these guys. Yeah. But cultural victories, I guess, right. The fact that Trump can walk out in a urban Democrat stronghold and have the whole crowd cheering for him this is

you know it was pandemonium it wasn't just cheering the plate he turned the place upside down it was absolute ear-splitting pandemonium awesome i think he's the most famous guy on earth right now he is yeah well and people i mean look i've known him a long time i'm not allowed to say how old because he says it makes us both sound old. But the guy's energy level is just extraordinary. I mean, he's always required very little sleep. But through all of this, and I talked to him Sunday, he's upbeat. He's resolute.

He's determined. He's extraordinarily confident. He's in a great mood. And he's surviving on not much sleep because, remember, he wins the Iowa caucuses. Then he has to fly, landing in New York City at 3.30 in the morning, appear in court the next day, through the afternoon, then fly back to New Hampshire, do a rally, then fly back to New York to appear in court in the morning. I mean, he's 77 years old, but he's got the stamina of a 26-year-old. Were you friends way back? Were you guys friends in business or were you just friends? I met him in 1979 when I recruited he and his father for the finance chairman to be members of the finance committee for Ronald Reagan's campaign for president of the United States in New York State.

That's how we met. And they both joined Reagan's finance committee? They both joined and raised substantial money for it. Was that Don's first foray into politics? You know, if you're a New York City developer, you're always in politics and you cover both sides. Remember, the city is dominated by Democrats, and Democrats control stuff like permitting and zoning.

So Donald was friendly with all politicians of both parties. The first person in the country really to suggest that Trump should run for president was Richard Nixon. Nixon's in exile. He is a friend of George Steinbrenner who owns the New York Yankees. He and Trump meet in Steinbrenner's box. Nixon knows I'd done some work for Trump.

Trump knows I'm close to Nixon. Nixon calls me the next day. Well, I met your man, sir. This guy could go all the way. I'm saying, are you saying you should run for governor? No, no, no. I said all the way. And'm saying, are you saying he should run for governor? No, no, no. I said all the way. And then there's a famous letter, which Nixon sits in and hand writes to Trump telling him he should run for president.

The New York Times has published it. What year was it? It had to be 80s, around 89. Well, there's that. Was it like he was on Oprah or something? He asked if he was going to run for president. Yes. And you know what he says?

Probably not. Probably not. Unless things got so bad that i had no choice yeah and we came to that point i didn't know we were at that point in 2012 i just thought stuff was a little crazy but i didn't realize like the liberal economic order was morphing into this new world order that it had been planned for 30 or 40 years and i had no idea in retrospect we still weren't quite at that moment so in 2012 he i think reluctantly endorsed mitt romney he almost immediately had sellers remorse every time there's a debate he would call me and say what's wrong with this guy? He's got no instinct for the jugular. And then it was New Year's Day of 2013 when he said, I've applied to the patent and trademark office to trademark the phrase,

make America great again. What year was that? 2013. Yeah. So I knew he was running in 2016. Michael Moore tried claiming that Trump didn't actually want to run. It was,

did you see that documentary he did Fahrenheit 11, nine, and he's saying something wasn't Gwen Stefani or something like this. Like someone got a bigger NBC contract than Trump and Trump was offended because he's the, he's the big shot. He's the apprentice. So he decided he would run for president just to bolster his, uh, his, his recognition and then try and get a better contract. But then he accidentally won. It's the most insane thing. Michael Moore, what were you thinking? The dude, he trademarked MAGA.

Right. Years in advance. Everybody knew this was coming. But look, he talked about running in 2000. He talked about running in 1988. The first time he went to Portsmouth, New Hampshire, where he was two nights ago, to speak to the Portsmouth Chamber of Commerce. The first time there was speculation about him running. He was nowhere near ready.

I don't think he was that, he wasn't that serious about it. But he wanted to kind of test the waters. Then he looked at it again in 2000. Jesse Ventura, who had become governor of Minnesota, had been obviously a very famous wrestler, urged him to do it. Ross Perot, his fellow billionaire, urged him to do it. He still wasn't ready. I think he toyed with it, but he never ran. By the way, he won the Reform Party primaries in Michigan and California weeks after withdrawing as a candidate and saying definitively he would not be a candidate.

He looked at it seriously again in 2012. The reporters all insisted. He's just burnishing the brand. He's never really going to run. This is all great PR genius. I think he was always seriously interested. He was waiting for the right time. 2016 turned out to be the right time. Isn't that better? I mean, if what he said on Oprah, he's thinking about it, if he needed to run, then he would. I think that's much more of the like servant leadership that people don't actually give Trump credit for. It wasn't about his ego.

It was about saying, I can actually change something. I can make a difference here. It's cost him hundreds of millions of dollars. He was universally liked. Now he's a polarizing figure. It's cost him millions in legal fees. He's put up with an enormous amount of vituperation attacks on his family.

He's doing it because he loves the country. He's not doing it because he needs more name ID. The Trump, the first Trump term was a magical time. Despite the cinder blocks they duct taped to Trump's feet. It was a great time. mean economically especially and of course 2020 things got wonky but i don't blame trump for that and then you have the biden years and these past uh three and a half years have been miserable it's just been it's it's been at. The 2016 to 20 was like agitation. It was like you can use agitation to grow muscle.

You agitate the system to cause a growth response or you cause an immune response. You cause a lot of things with agitation. But lately, it's just felt like it's falling apart. That's wasting away. There's no... I don't know. It's a very hopeless time, especially if you're a young voter which is why once again he's exactly the right man at the right time people who don't know him

just have no idea how tough this guy is he's he's extraordinarily tough i worked for richard nixon very tough guy greatest political comeback in american political history i worked for senator bob dole another tough guy he got hit by a shell in World War II. They told me never walk again, never have the use of it. I mean, he nursed himself back to health to a Senate career and to win a presidential nomination. One of the greatest men of the 20th century. Those guys were very, very tough guys. Trump is tougher than either one of them. You got into politics during the Nixon era? Yes, that was my first boss. What got you involved in it? Well, actually, I was originally a Goldwater zealot when I was 12 years old. I read the book Conscience of a Conservative, and I realized that I was an anti-communist

who believed in personal freedom and small government and a strong national defense and privacy. And then when Goldwater lost, I was crushed because I was 12 years old. What the hell do you know when you're 12 years old? And then I started reading about Nixon and I concluded that he had been robbed of the 1960 election. So I wrote him a letter when he was in exile, practicing law on wall street. And I told him if he ever ran again,

I wanted to sign up. And they kept my letter on file for two years. And then when he decided to make a comeback uh i got a call asked me if i wanted to come in and interview for a job you were in your 20s a little surprise when i was 16 years old you're 16 yeah at that point but you got the job as a gopher yeah i want to talk about uh this uh story from the hill we've talked about it quite a bit but i do want to bring it up another context because we're talking right now about what life was like in the trump era from we're talking you know 2017 into the beginning of 2021 and right now we keep seeing these stories pop up this one's

from from last from a month ago of course that trump is getting a big boost with younger voters we're now seeing another story that gen z groups are panicking and trying to buy up domains and that support trump to trick trump supporting young trying to buy up domains that support Trump to trick Trump supporting young people into not supporting him. That's how panicked the Democrats are. And I saw this video today of a micro apartment in New York City.

It's 60, 70 square feet. It has no bathroom. It has no kitchen. It has a sink. And it is a five and a half foot by 10 foot corridor with a door. And I think young people are starting to understand it. When New York City offers up free housing for illegal immigrants,

free health care for illegal immigrants, and you, a young person entering the workforce, entering adulthood, can't afford an apartment and can't afford health care, you start to wonder what it is the Democrats are doing and why they are doing it to you. And when Donald Trump was president, things were a whole lot better. The economy was booming. Jim Cramer, for all of his failed predictions, said the best numbers of our lives pertaining to unemployment, economic growth, etc. Now, under Joe Biden, it's been been misery young people are excited about living in pods they've got these in san francisco you can live in this big room with like what is it three by

three pods and you can climb into your designated tube which is you know each pod is like four feet you know uh square like like it's like a twin size bed basically not even are you serious have you seen these tubes i mean like approximately it's not like it's like a twin size bed, basically. Not even. Are you serious? Have you seen these tubes? I mean, like approximately, it's not fully. They cannot fit a twin size bed. You don't think so? These pods where you go into a big room and it's four feet tall, four feet wide and 10

feet deep. You can lay down on an air mattress in that thing if you're lucky. That's how small they are. And they're advertising. These are the cubbies you can live in. You can live in. This is what young people have to look forward to. So it's not surprising to me that many of them joke all day and night on social media. They have memes about killing themselves because they're like, ha ha, what's the point of living? I think one of the big reasons many are starting to vote for Trump is because they can see the writing on the wall.

They understand Biden is is bad he will make life hard for you trump is an open door with light at the end of the tunnel it's the migrancy crisis man and this idea that sometimes your leader needs to be cruel perceivably cruel to those out there so that you and here can prosper and like sorry at some point like there's always they're always going to make more people so there's always going to be more of them out there. And I need to protect my society for ages thought differently that we could protect everybody. But the reality is that's why we build walls. These these young voters are inside this big mansion.

That is the United States. They don't have a bedroom. They're not getting any food. And they're asking, why is it that we are here giving our money and working in this place? And what are the Democrats doing? Opening the door and letting strange people come in and eat all the food. Young people can see that. And take the jobs that young people need. I think it's about economic opportunity. What's the point of going to college, racking up a debt to do so, and then when you get out of college,

there are no jobs available. But your student loans, you can't go bankrupt on your student loans and they're issuing them forever and ever and ever. I mean, I think economic opportunity is ultimately going to change young voters from left leaning. You know, everyone says that when you're young, you're a Democrat. And when you're older, conservative, I was never a Democrat. And I think part of it is the life that people want to leave is not sustainable under Biden. I mean, even if you did want to live in a city and, you know, live in the box and do whatever, you know, you can't. And I think more and more young people are starting to see that and saying, actually, I want to own land. Actually, I don't want to be

dependent on anyone else. Actually, the things that I think will will will sustain me long term line up with a different group of people than are traditionally pushed on me. Yes. It's a big cultural shift. That's what I like about the youngest generation, which is like they are this weird mix of super hopeless people, but then some of them are extremely motivated

to be different. We'll see these waves of young people who are saying, I don't want these things. I want to live differently. And I have always credited it a lot to the emergence of homeschooling as a dominant force in America. I think that people being more invested in their education and challenging sort of status quo teaching has really ignited a powerful energy among these young voters who are coming down the pike. But to a certain extent, they have to be met with some positive reinforcement and that's why a trump presidency is so interesting right now because if you could give them the chance to have economic

prosperity they would really cement the culture they're drifting towards i mean also let's just be honest trump is the more punk rock candidate that they have to choose from and even if you're if like if their attitude really was. That they believe Trump is the apocalypse. But they're making memes all day and night. About burning everything down. And killing themselves. Then they'd also be voting for Trump too.

So it's just. There's nothing Joe Biden has to offer. Donald Trump is the guy. Who gives the middle finger to the press. Mocks the system. And he's got that. Youthful exuberance. So in terms of wanting to justcks the system, and he's got that youthful exuberance. So in terms of wanting to just screw the system over,

it's Trump. Trump's the anti-establishment. It's also his, I know his friends, a lot of his friends and family and like people, they seem genuinely interested in technology. I haven't been pinged by the Biden industry to be like, yo, what's the solution here? The solution is graphene and hydrogen.

We can alter our fuel system so that we're using hydrogen fuel in addition to oil carbon-based fuel i'm i'm not having this increase our gdp by 10 times i'm not having this okay you're supposed to be promoting graphene now you're switching to hydrogen fuel they come it's a it's a part and parcel package have you heard of graphene before yes yeah this shit's dude fucking this is going to be the 21st century building material we're going to be pumping this shit out of rice university and they figured out how to hit carbon trash with a laser or it's actually with electricity they'll take any carbon they'll run a 7 000 degree current through it turn it into black powder he desperately wants you to tell trump to embrace graphene that's why he's saying this it's it's a solution it. It's a material solution and it'll alleviate the sector of the copper industry

that we rely on. Let's bring us into practical terms. The steel industry. Are you working directly with the Trump campaign? Not in a formal capacity, but I'm certainly helping Donald Trump. I think he's the peace and prosperity candidate. I agree.

I mean, those are your two crucial issues beyond immigration. We are loping closer and closer to a world war, both in the Russia-Ukraine situation and in the Middle East. Donald Trump could solve both of those issues relatively quickly. But domestically, we've got the immigration problem and we're wasting money in Ukraine, which affects us domestically. But what do you see Trump doing in terms of manufacturing and in terms of lower skill labor for American citizens? First of all, drill, baby, drill. We got to go back to the fact that there's enough black gold, there's enough coal, enough natural gas under our own feet to fuel the country for 100 years. We're back to having to beg the Venezuelans or the Russians or others for fuel.

This makes no sense at all. Every president in my lifetime has promised us energy independence, and none of them delivered. Donald Trump delivered. It is the keystone to a booming economy. It's the first thing he has to do. First thing he will do. Yeah. Can I ask, how do you think Trump is going to handle

criticisms he has about COVID? When COVID first, you know, hit us, we didn't know what was going on. There were the initial lockdowns. I think this is something that a lot of, you know, never Trumpers or Democrats or even moderates have questions about. It seems like at one time,

this was something that he was behind. I'm going to jump in real quick here because we had this conversation when Laura Loomer and Luke Rutkowski were on the show in Iowa. And so now you've got these just like, I don't know, whinging sycophants on social media misrepresenting what I said. And so you have Laura Loomer blaming Ron DeSantis saying he locked everything down. It was really bad. You have Luke Gronkowski saying Donald Trump locked everything down. It was really bad. And my point is everyone in the beginning of this, everyone got it wrong. Republicans at the start of COVID were advocating wearing masks and Fauci said not to. And then Fauci flip-flopped and all of a sudden

Republicans were saying, don't wear masks. Donald Trump said 15 days to slow the spread. Donald Trump pushed operation warp speed. Personally, I look back and I'm like, yeah. And Ron DeSantis was also for mandates and lockdowns too. I don't see the point in having this Trump is bad. No, Ron is bad. No, Trump is bad, back and forth over and over again to try and adjudicate something that happened four years ago between two guys who did relatively similar things or in different ways. Trump wasn't a governor. He didn't have control over the states. Ron DeSantis believed a lot of the same garbage everyone else did.

And what people did was they took this clip to try to imply that I'm somehow saying Fauci should not go to prison. I think Fauci is directly responsible and he should go to jail. I should, I think he should be criminally charged and investigated of course. But it's, it's silly in my opinion to attack Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis when we look back four years later, we're like, oh, now that we understand the origins and now we have the evidence and now we realize who was right and who was wrong and who was responsible. It's like, oh, well, you know, now we go back and argue that Trump should have done something that we should have.

But what did anybody know at the time? Do you think this is kind of how the Trump campaign is responding to these comments? I study polls as part of what I do. And even though we all feel strongly about it, when you stack it up next to immigration and war and the economy, it's not moving that many voters. I mean, Trump, he relied on the doctors. He's not a doctor. He relied on the doctors. That's how I felt about this argument for a long time that, I mean, we still get it from the Democrats that abortion is going to be the big issue of 2024. And it just doesn't seem to be, especially at least in the primary season, among conservative voters. Maybe in a general, when you have to face up against maybe moderates,

it'll be different. But there are so many things that they bring forward saying, well, this is a potential weakness. This is a dent in the chain mail kind of thing. And it seems like no one can actually find the thing that is irritating voters in a way that would impede the Trump campaign. I think the COVID talking points of trump are a cope for people who just don't like trump and are looking for a reason to justify why they wouldn't vote for him i'm concerned about his staffing issues with you know the dude with the big mustache that got us in john bolton yeah john bolton wanted to take over iran um and he fought and bolton is just some of these horrendous staffing decisions that Don made. And then the Fauci thing, just giving, he didn't give him authority, but he basically stood behind him and nodded while Fauci ran the show.

He would do that with some other technocrat in the future, like the CEO of Google. He's like, I'm not a social media guy, so I'm going to let the social media guy run. Like, yo, the doctor should be relying on the president to make the right decision after their advice is given not the other way around well that's quite literally what happened the other way was the other way around trump was relying on fauci to make the right call and basically he's like whatever you say is going to be a yes so good luck go for it well we don't know that's absolute that's what it looked we know that he had burks and fauci up on stage and it was uh you know in with them all the time and it was a mistake, you know, in with them all the time. And it was a mistake in hindsight. And there are people who are like, I always knew exactly what was going to happen. B S dude. So

many of these, uh, right-wing pundits were, were screaming by masks by masks. Now I had people mailing me masks early on at the start of this thing when it was March and Donald Trump said 15 days, slow the spread. And we understand these things were scripts. I just think when you look at how good things work, especially considering the weights they stripped on his ankles, what I hear from, you know, some of these individuals who are like, I won't vote for Trump because of what he did on COVID. I'm like, no, no worse. Spare me your libertarian whinging when you're like my justification for why I won't vote for Trump is some arbitrary thing about mistakes that were made, even though he's the first president in our lifetimes

to not start a war and to actually set a timeline to bring our troops back and to negotiate with these countries like North Korea and to try and get our troops out of Syria. Setting a deadline for Afghanistan was fantastic. The Abraham Accords, all of these things were tremendous achievements. And then you're like, but because he wasn't, you know, because he made bad decisions at a time when, you know, nobody knew exactly what was going on.

I won't vote for him now. And I'm like, dude, if everything he did with COVID, it was a lot of mistakes were made. I totally get that. Fair point, fair criticism. But the idea that that is justification for why you would not vote for him now

with Biden here or potentially Michelle Obama, when you know they're going to massively expand foreign war, Ukraine now the largest recipient of U.S. foreign aid and young people can't afford apartments, but they're smuggling humans and giving them health care, giving them houses. And then I hear these people go, but Trump made a bad call on COVID. And I'm like, yeah, well, okay, dude, no one knew it was going at the time. We can rag on it now, but there's such a tremendous gap in what Trump represents coming to this country.

If you vote for him now versus what the Democrats will do to this country, if you don't, that's what frustrates me. It's an excuse of people who will make an argument every single day. Trump was right about this. He was right about this. He was right about this day trump was right about this he was right about this he was right about this he was right about this okay will you vote for him well because of dr fauci no get out of here dude that's a lie that's trump derangement syndrome dude think about how many things he hasn't done wrong you know what i mean like think about how the fact they were like invested in this dude for years and they didn't come up with anything they were like literally trying to find anything they didn't come with anything like that's that for me that's what sells it's like

there's like two or three or four or five things that everyone talks about it's like in comparison to so many other people for me that's what sells to me like the dude seems like are you saying like because they he was persecuted legally for so long they were trying to find something yeah they were definitely trying to lobby for him harder yeah i mean i just see it as like if they're trying to put this guy in they can't find any screw to drive home. But they're still willing to go. Yeah. And they're trying so hard.

They have to make up lies and stuff about this dude. It's like, dude, I mean, yeah, there's a couple of things that are wrong with him. I agree about Bolton and stuff like that. But like, man, that's impressive. Yeah. So my view is like, oh, was Trump a perfect candidate? That's ridiculous. Ridiculous to assume.

Was Trump a good president? He was the best president of my life. And I don't know. know i don't you roger you're a lot older than i am but i agree i didn't know i didn't know much about clinton i didn't know i i knew about bush and that's when i was growing up seeing all the stuff and so really my my what i know about the presidency is bush holy crap bad obama, was I lied to, bad. Donald Trump comes in, wow. These are the things that people were claiming was supposed to happen under Joe Biden, happening under Donald Trump.

Unemployment rates were dropping in minority communities. Young people were seeing opportunity. Rent was going down. I mean, wages were going up. Businesses were offering up four-day work weeks. There was this great list where people were saying, all these socialists claim to want these things, higher pay, better salaries, profit sharing, four day work week. And those were happening under Trump through capitalism, not not socialism. And now people are like, yeah,

but once in a lifetime weird pandemic thing happened where Dr. Fauci did a bunch of bad stuff.. So therefore Trump's Trump's at fault. And it's like, I'm not going to blame Trump for that. Yeah. I only bring it up just to ask, like, there are obviously going to be criticism of Trump. I'm not super tied to the COVID one. There are always with any candidate going to be things that people look back on the legacy and say, hey, this is where you lose me. This is maybe the thing I have concerns about. And of course, any politician is going to have to address them. That's normal, right? You have to answer questions from the voters. They're maybe not even hostile. And so for, you know, COVID, abortion, immigration, you know, whatever, there are going to be things the Trump campaign theoretically has to

address now that we're going into a general election. It looks like he'll be the nominee. I don't really think Nikki Haley is going to turn the ship around. And so it's just interesting to hear how the campaign decides to address these things. Yeah, and it's definitely a warning for the future if another global pandemic or issue happens, like there's a power outage, the system goes down. The only one that can save it is Google because Google has access to the infrastructure to get us back on our knees, back on our feet. Quick, let's get the CEO of Google in to help us run this. So like, no, that cannot happen next time. Next time, maybe there'll be an advisor that the technocrats can advise our leadership. But we need to at least look at the Fauci situation as a learning lesson.

That's a Luke. That's a Lucas for sure. That's your point. And I think that you can lay the blame at the feet of Trump, but that's not a deal breaker whether or not to vote for the guy you're looking for the least worst candidate anyway. But like Roger, you what candidates did you serve over the years or what administrations have you served with? I worked for obviously for Nixon. I worked for Ronald Reagan, three campaigns, 76, 80 and 84. I worked for Senator Bob Dole.

I worked on the Bush recount recount kind of regret regretted that and of course donald trump so you like skipped the clintons the bushes i'm a republican so yeah was that just like were you like avoiding the war parties or were you always just following your heart i supported bob dole in 1996 i held my nose and voted for john mccain that was an error uh when when the republicans nominated mitt romney i left the republican party i became a member of the libertarian party i supported gary johnson uh because mitt romney was so completely repugnant to me it was such a complete fraud and then i returned to the republican party in time for the hostile takeover of the party by donald trump

who snatched the party back from the country clubs and made it the party of working americans again ah yeah feels like he's a liberal dude i always thought of him as like a new york democrat i'm shocked some people thought that early on but it turns out to be the heritage foundation had a great report he when it comes to actual policy he was more conservative than ronald reagan did you just see these presidents as like the corruption within the systems like with the obamas with the clintons did you like from afar just like or did Did you just see these presidents as like the corruption within the systems, like with the Obamas, with the Clintons? Did you like from afar, just like, or were you just not interested? I mean, you know, it evolved over time. So I wrote a book on the Kennedy assassination, which I always had a fascination about, but it wasn't until I got an opportunity to talk to Nixon about it. And I asked him about the Warren commission. He said, are you kidding

me? It was the biggest goddamn hoax in American history. And I said, what do you mean? He said, well, Lyndon and I both wanted to be president. The difference was I wasn't willing to kill for it. Wow. That motivated me to write my book, which became a New York Times bestseller, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, Case Against LBJ. No publisher would touch this. They said, nobody's going to read this book. This book has no commercial appeal. Wow. It continues to do extraordinarily well. So I used to be one of those Republican good, Democrat bad, lockstep. Look, I now realize we have a uniparty.

So despite the deep sentimental attachment I have to the party of Lincoln and the party of Eisenhower and the party of Nixon and Reagan and Trump, I also recognize that we have a uniparty at the elite level. Not at the grassroots level, but at the elite level. We have one party of incumbent politicians in Washington, and they're all in it together. And that's the sad truth. And all of this posturing is like a Hegelian device to distract us from the fact that they're all the same, with the exception of one guy I know, Donald Trump. How do you advise people to, like, pioneer this environment of the uniparty,

or to survive it, or even from the political perspective, or just from the average? It's very, very difficult to start a new party. People say, why don't we just start a new party? Well, the people who write the laws about getting a party on the ballot are Republicans and Democrats working together to make it as expensive and arcane and complicated and difficult as possible. So if you believe, as I do, that the Republican Party is a traditional home of conservatives, then we have to win intra-party contests to nominate good men and women. Too many of the Republicans that we have are rhinos, I guess, as you'd call it. And we take a look at, we had a list pulled up of the people who voted to oust George Santos. And I called some of them scumbags. And it's funny because you're sitting here with a

member. We're sitting here with a member of Congress. And he's like, I know those guys. Like, I know some of these guys. I'm just like, look, Santos was not convicted of anything. He's been accused and they removed him already because these Republicans are spineless. So with the Supreme Court ruling on the border, a lot of people are pointing out that Democrats will Democrat judges will justify whatever it is they want to do and tell you too bad cry about it. Republican judges will say we're going to give to the Democrats because we're fair and magnanimous. And it results in the Democrats just steamrolling ahead and getting wherever they want. I like that George Santos guy.

You like him. Yeah, I didn't know that I would. And then I watched a video of him and I was like, well,'s entertaining yeah but he was denied due process you're right why throw the guy out before he was convicted of anything he got thrown out when he was only accused this is how the system's gonna work adam clayton powell got thrown out of congress by the democrats only when he was convicted of a crime it's the way it should be i'm not particularly a fan of santos nor am i particularly a critic of him. But I I do think he was denied due process.

Unlike Jamal Bowman, right, who was convicted of pulling the fire alarm, disrupting, trying to disrupt a vote. And he gets to remain in Congress. It seems like. Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous. And I think it's sort of frustrating that this is not something that the Republicans in Congress aren't willing to push harder on. I mean, it seems like an unequal application of justice. they're around if it's appropriate and head over to timcast.com click join us on the website become a member because we're gonna have a members only uncensored show coming up in about a half an hour where you as members actually can submit questions and call in to talk to us and our guests as well as get access to our discord server where you can hang out with like-minded individuals 24 7 they got pre-shows they have after after shows and uh it a vibrant community. You guys should join it.

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Alpha Turkey says, it's treason then. Yep. But I don't think treason is the right word. I think sedition is the appropriate term. Correct? What specifically are we talking about? I'm not sure. Oh, I'm sorry.

The border. Biden facilitating the open border would be a seditious act, which is to destroy the government, whereas treason, it would be more aiding and abetting an enemy. Well, as you know, the House Republicans have declined

to move articles of impeachment against Mayorkas on that basis alone. They just won't do it. Their election. We just won't do it. Their election of duty. Just won't do it. Matter of fact, we have a uniparty. Sadly, yes. I'm afraid so.

That doesn't mean, obviously, that everybody in the Republican Party is bad. I think, for example, Rand Paul, who I think is a very, very good guy and a very principled guy. There are good people. Yeah. But it's a corrupting system.

You get elected to Congress. You show up. You have great intentions. You've got great beliefs. You get there, but then you realize it's a money chase. You're spending all your time in the House raising money for your next re-election. And people introduce you to lobbyists who in turn introduce you to other lobbyists and pretty soon it's all about how

much is in your bank account would you want to change the length of house terms then because i've heard that before because they're basically as soon as you get elected i think we need term limits first of all i think three terms in the house six years is enough i think three terms in the House, six years is enough. I think two terms in the Senate, 12 years, that's pretty long, frankly. Right. Yeah. And what else are you going to do? If you're not contributing to society and stuff like that, how can you really represent people if you don't know what the outside world is?

You become completely out of touch. All you do is politics. It's all you know. Well, and the voters are overwhelmingly in favor of term limits, which the politicians will never let this happen. Of course. Because they're destroying their they're destroying their livelihood. Yeah.

They like the system the way it is. Yeah. The emperor's champion says, what makes people think that all of these criminal migrants would stay if a civil war breaks out? They have no loyalty to the US. Why wouldn't they flee? It depends. Depends on how it goes down. But I can imagine a scenario where Donald Trump gets elected, says, I'm going to start a deportation process for these criminal aliens. And then in

major urban cities, they come out and say, we will defend you, but you have to defend yourself. And then you actually have them saying, we won't leave. Democrats are going to argue, you have a right to be here. You're immigrants. You've been given your proper documentation. Trump is committing a crime. Don't let him do do it and then if there is fighting that breaks out the illegal immigrants will be fighting with democrats like fighting on the side of yeah all right let's grab some more super chats youtube's been giving us the business with super chats it's kind of annoying all right paul tescolo says half measures calls cause full failures abbott waited two and a half years his plan was destined to lose in court now we get biden wins on immigration headlines 70 dudes in a park with cattle ranch supplies isn't stopping 300 000 illegal illegal immigrants per month yes unfortunately scott

marshall says one strickland definitely got robbed two abbott should ignore the supreme court and defend the texas border three if you aren't playing pal world then you're missing out is it the pokemon with guns game i have not heard of that that sounds cool though yeah it's basically pokemon with guns uh abbott should i don't know if ignore the supreme court is the right way to phrase it the supreme court ruling the feds can remove barricades means nothing when texas national guard are not allowing feds anywhere near the barricades and technically if the federal government doesn't order them to do it they're allowed to but they're still not going to do it because they weren't

ordered to do it the real issue is that the supreme court would have to order the texas national guard to vacate allowing the feds to come into the border. But this ruling saying they're allowed to remove barriers doesn't mean they're allowed to remove Texas National Guard. So right now it's it's legal limbo, I guess. And the question of how how many people they have to staff this project. Right. I mean, doesn't this the razor wire extend for like several miles right and if and if they do remove the razor wire does the ruling say texas can't put more can't it does the ruling stop texas from putting razor wire up yeah so imagine the feds come in and actually remove a bunch and then start as they're moving it it's just being

instantly replaced by texas the question will be if the Supreme Court says Texas can no longer replace the wire. Greg Dubier says, Tim, Vivek needs to be VP so we can have Vivek versus Kamala VP debate. It'll be the most one-sided debate ever. What would that be?

Vivek debating Kamala Harris? It'd be rough. It'd be rough. I don't think he would have enough to work with, right? Like he's such a quick-witted person. I feel like he needs someone who can spar a little bit more to have something going on. And I think she doesn't really have anything to offer on the debate stage, in my opinion. I mean, she is just-

It wouldn't be a debate. It'd be her standing there with drool porn. It would be a slaughter. Exactly. He'd have to have restraint and be kind. Because if he got angry, if he got malicious, that would be the media spin. he'd have to have restraint and be kind because if he got angry if he got malicious that would be the the media spin would be like what an asshole right he was mean to her yeah i don't know he's gonna learn to pull punches all right donald devol says tim you are being too hard on the scientists about the supposed winston churchill quote at the end of darkest hour a movie about churchill before the credits they they show that same quote and attribute it to churchill however there is an

historical organization that says that's not true that it was never attributed to him and that it is attributed uh and then someone else pointed out it's a budweiser ad from 1938 so we think it's just like a staffer saw this movie and was like i know the perfect quote to close on but like the point is this. I understand people misattribute that quote to Churchill. The issue is you should have a staff fact check this because it only it only takes a couple of minutes to figure out that's not a Churchill quote. It was misattributed. Well, somebody looked at it and they thought it fit the situation perfectly.

And then they didn't do their homework. And now you've got Rhonda Santus quoting Budweiser. And he can't get fired, right? I mean, the campaign's over. So whoever wrote this is already out of a job. Yeah, that's right. Wyatt Kallenberg says the first civil war was over Democrats wanting slaves as cheap labor. The second civil war will be over Democrats wanting illegals for cheap labor.

I don't think it's about cheap labor. I think it's destruction and subversion of the system, which they have publicly stated. Dramatically altering this country to benefit themselves. All right, here we are. TRD says Abbott's wire solution. Remove it, then allow Texas volunteers to replace it. It would technically be in compliance because Texas government didn't reinstall it. Yes, but I don't know that the Supreme Court ordered it be removed. The ruling was that the feds can remove it, correct? I mean, the federal government is allowed to remove it pending the rest of this legal case.

So if it goes back in, they would still have the right to remove it. It's not a permanent solution. But the right to remove it doesn't mean they have a right to remove National Guard. Yeah. If the National Guard were to block them from having access to it, then that's different. But theoretically, in this case, if a volunteer installed it, they would still be allowed. It's not you can only remove razor wire installed by the state government it's any razor wire that's there you're allowed to remove ian fricter says tim long time subscriber here

you should invite greg conley on he's an attorney and president of american vaping association you would be fascinated at the harm corruption lies the fda and states are spewing right now about vaping and the health benefits of it i I heard this really interesting pitch one time that really candidates should lobby for the vape vote and they should really like the people who vape across all sections of, you know, political classes and socioeconomic classes. And if you could just get all of the people who vape to get behind your candidate, you would have this kind of coalition of diverse voters. I found that like very, I find people who vape. There is a high and I wouldn't, I'm not going to try and blanket everybody, but I find a

very high rate of what's the right word. They're rude, inconsiderate, um, in a certain area. And that is, I am actually surprised at people who will vape inside someone else's home or, or, or business or vehicle, knowing what they're doing is bothering them, trying to hide it, but doing it anyway, without asking.

I've experienced this so often from, from people who vape. Now, I certainly have experienced people who vape who don't. They won't do it. They'll be like, hey, can I run out? I'm going to vape. I'm like, yeah, no problem.

But we've had in many instances here in this building, vaping is not allowed. It is contractual. There's a bunch of stuff behind it I'm not going to get into. We cannot allow people to vape or smoke in the building. It doesn't matter. So people will actually take small vapes and hide them and try and vape in here despite there being signs saying don't do it when they come in we say don't do it we get it it sucks but something we can do about it there's legal issues and they do it anyway i gotta be honest i'm really at the point where it's like

we've had people come on the show and when they think i'm not paying attention like i'll look down at the monitor i'll see them take their hand like this and go and then they won't talk for a little bit and then when i look back at the model they go and then i'm just i'm at the point where i'm like i'm gonna throw someone out who will be sitting in this guest chair who pulls out a vape to try and pull it off and i'm just gonna be like bro get up you get up. You get up. Like, that's it. It's like, it's, it's like spitting on me. Like, dude, I don't care about vaping. I get it. But you can't.

There's a big sign saying don't do it. They know we don't want them to do it. We ask them not to do it. They don't care. It reminds me of just sort of amazing. A lack of common courtesy, right? Like people are sort of less polite. They are less considerate.

It's like, well, I really, really, really want to do this thing. So I should be allowed to do it. If don't see it it's okay and ultimately that's not a way to operate that seems like the degradation of society in all honesty i don't think there are many single issue vape voters in other words you're right it causes many barriers but i don't know anyone who's motivated by that issue in terms of the reason they would cast their vote. I mean, the FDA has come down pretty hard on vaping. Yeah, in your car. It's like, hey, we're going to go get food.

Hop in. And then they're sitting in the back and start vaping. I'm like, bro, are you kidding me? Open the window. What are you doing? That's the worst. It's just, come on, man. I mean, I think some people who vape, I don't do it.

I can't ascribe to the culture. But, you know, there are some people who vape who feel the dependency. Because I remember when Juul for a minute was going to get banned from the market i knew people who drove out and bought it in bulk because they didn't want to be without it i mean there is a there is a habit forming element of it i just don't think that like it should trump in this case especially like this being an example you're not allowed to do it in here the fact that you would be like but i'm just going to make an exception for myself is is discourteous and it's it's just it happens all the time. Like,

look guys, like it happens once or twice. And I was just like, Hey, you can't vape in here. And they go, okay. But it's happened probably like 37 times, which is just like,

yo, this is nuts. We had someone come in recently, actually pointed the sign and be like, Oh, we can't vape in here. Yeah. Okay.

Five minutes later, like, and I'm like, wow, that was the last straw for me. The last person who did it was a couple of weeks ago. I was like, I think from now on, we're going to split out, like, and I'm like, wow. That was the last straw for me. The last person who did it was a couple weeks ago. I was like, I think from now on, we're going to put out a message. I just kind of feel like such a dick move to do that.

We're just going to ask you to leave. And like, I'll literally put Mr. Bocas in that chair and we'll do the show with whoever's in the house. Because just like, bro, if you want to come in here and just basically spit in my face, you can leave. You don't need to be here. That's the whole vaping thing to me. You can tell it's been irking me for some time that people keep doing this.

And it's like at the 37th time, I'm just finally like, bro, that's it. It comes up. There we go. I'm going to talk about it. No, but I think it's like, I think it is picking up on something that I really feel in America, which is that there's a sort of there is an inherent selfishness to the way we live now.

And I think it's aided and abetted by consumerists and sort of social media culture that says I have to think about my needs above everything else. And I think if we moved away from that, we would be a better and stronger society. All right. Mr. Grizzly Bear says, Tim, what's stopping Biden from declaring what Texas is doing a rebellion and federalizing the Texas Guard? What do you think are the chances of it? And what could the repercussions be?

I don't know the chances. Democrats are actually already talking about it. I think it was Joaquin Castro, perhaps. There's an article we had pulled up. We didn't get into it, but they are talking about federalizing the National Guard. You know, if the Biden administration tried basically seizing control of the Texas National Guard, that's like over this issue, particularly that may be like the most civil war-y thing I

could think of at the moment. The feds coming down and being like, from now on, you will take orders from us and no one else. That wild and i there's a there's a possibility of they're actually discussing doing that we'll see man i honestly don't know what do you think the likelihood of that is you think that's i think it is unlikely yeah i think it is unlikely it's certainly it's certainly not desirable i agree man i don't know all right random eskimo says if we can afford to send $200 billion to Ukraine for a war we illegally caused through Boris Johnson, we can afford to use our own National Guard

to remove illegal invaders. Yeah, the Ukraine stuff is a mess. I just want to make sure every young person knows. That's all you got to do. Go to every Gen Z kid and be like, hey, can you afford an apartment? And they go, no. And be like, did you ask why it is Democrats are sending hundreds of millions, hundreds

of billions of dollars to a foreign country? Have you asked why Democrats are giving illegal immigrants free housing? Hey, look, man, I get it. You can't afford a place to live. That's wrong. You should. Our younger generation needs to be able to have families and buy homes. Have you asked yourself why it is that Joe Biden is bringing in illegal immigrants and

then the Democrats in New York are putting them up in hotels? You know these hotel rooms have a bed and a bathroom and they expect you to live in a bachelor micro apartment or a pod. You're an American citizen, 20 years old, trying to find an apartment. You're going to school. The best you can find is for $2,000 in New York, a micro apartment. Congratulations. That illegal immigrant who came here, they put him up in a fancy hotel in the Upper West Side of New York where he's got his own big bed, a TV, and his own bathroom. Sorry.

Sucks for you, I guess. You're being left out. Vote Trump. I can tell you this. I can't guarantee Trump's going to solve all those problems, but I can tell you if you vote Democrat, it'll only make it worse. So it's you choose.

It's on you, man. All right. The Lion says, Tim, It's on you, man. All right. The Lion says, Tim, I can tell you're not a UFC fan. Decisions are controversial 70% of the time. When you're the challenger, it's said to not leave it to the hands of the judges. Strickland won rounds one, two, and five, by the way.

That's apparently how the media scored it. It's how a lot of people watching online were scoring it as it went they're like oh man that round easily went to uh i remember watching it and i'm seeing people tweet like rounds one and two easily went to strickland and i'm like man i don't know it just looks like he's winning and then in the end they're like the other guy wins and i was like huh and i it's you know look confirmation bias it's all i need as soon as i watch that clip of joe rogan acting surprised i was like like, see, I'm right.

What bothers me is, look, I'm just some layman. I don't watch UFC fights all that often, but sometimes. I've been watching them now because I'm a fan of these fighters because they're standing up for the people and pushing back on the machine. And I watch a fight happen. I see something I don't understand. And they call it for a guy who doesn't appear to win the fight. It seems like not a sport I should be interested in watching later on. Because I'm like, is it just fake?

You know, like people. So I tweeted that I'd rather just watch two guys go in. The fight ends when the fight ends. But I think it's a fair point people made. Like they've tried that in the past. It doesn't work. You get people just spinning around in circles for an hour and nothing happens and everyone's like what is this no one's even fighting so i understand that rounds are to basically put pressure on but then if you do

rounds you need a scoring system but i'm just like if it comes down to this they should at the very least say that a win requires a point spread of like 10 or something in which case if you're on round five and it's like this, you go around again. They look at the judge and the judges say, we do not have a definitive answer. It's a split decision. Round six.

Ooh, that'd be rough. Yup, would be. Because they give it every, they time it knowing that there's only going to be five rounds. So they'll come in with everything. And people have complained about this, that you end up with fighters specifically trying to win on technicalities

through rounds instead of actually winning a fight and so so it becomes more of a game and that's that's a part of it i guess you know i was reading about this one guy i forgot his name he was saying he wants to see a fight he wants to see the best guy fight the best guy instead when you start introducing these rules to try and condense things and make something watchable you end up with people just exploiting the rules for maximum points to win combat sports especially is very unique in that there's no ball like you can't count how many times did the ball hit the net how many times did the ball pass by the line because then it's objectively we already know who won you've got like dudes trying to qualify the behaviors of the athletes and that's the that's the score and so

they try and do like strikes is it a take down is it a significant strike is it a is it light and if it was just like how many hits did you get then you get light jabs but it's like okay so we got away significant so they try i can respect that they try to come up with the scoring system that makes sense but the problem is you end up watching a fight like the strickland fight and it's clear a guy won but you know one thing i'm seeing a lot of people say is duplessi took uh got got six out of six out of 11 takedowns strickland had none and so i i watched duplessi take him down he grabs him throws him on the ground and i'm like oh wow that's that's bad but it's like not not that there's no damage there's

no control and so apparently people are saying the takedowns this is the comment commentary i'm seeing for people who are in favor of strickland it said the judges weighed the takedowns way too heavily as if that was significant when it wasn't he knocked him down strickland got right back up got out of it kept fighting that's different than a takedown that leads into like some sort of uh control like control yeah but I think takedowns are good, you know, and he did knock Strickland down. That's great. But if I was watching that fight in the street, I'd just

be like, wow, Strickland is beating that guy up. A takedown and a knockdown should be counted differently. A knockdown where the guy goes down and you're looking at him and he's on the ground, whereas a takedown is where you bring him to the ground and have control of him on the ground. That would be, I i would think worth more points than a knockdown it is what it is i just it frustrates me because i'm just like i don't i don't i don't i don't want

to watch a fight where i'm counting points and trying to map things out i want to see guys fight you know anyway david guyton says tim i'm five minutes from maryland live arundel rhymes with bundle by the way i still have that metal memento mori mask for you oh very cool maryland live is is a lot of fun a lot of fun we were hanging out there and they got like a nice little bar and some lady was singing good times good times all right dad's didn't flag says tim and co can you please shout out my amazing wife gadsden flag girl from the Austin show and our new baby? Our little girl was born last month is a true blessing and growing strong. We cannot wait to take on this crazy worlds of family of four. That's so exciting. Congratulations. Cool. I love when people call in and be like, I have had a baby. Like, I just want everyone to do it every day yes yeah tom cavness says i just it just came out that az

gop chairman jeff dewitt was the one that went to carrie lake's house and attempted to bribe her into quitting politics she said this was done in a previous speech have you heard about that i have what's going on with that the arizona republican party dominated by the rhinos is epically corrupt. I've never seen a more clear-cut, absolute proof of a fraudulent election in the 45 years I've been doing this in. No judge wants to accept this evidence. No judge wants to rule. Honestly, it's really simple. You have a tabulating machine. It takes a piece of paper that is 19 inches long. We test it with 19-inch ballots.

The next day, the ballots that are brought in are 20 inches. Of course, the tabulator is going to spit it back out. And after three times, they say, oh, just go put your ballot in that box over there. We'll count it later. I'm simplifying it, but the manipulation of the Arizona election was outrageous. But we got to make sure it was also long lines caused by the errors. Some people went home, right. And then they came out and said, no one went home. What do you mean no one went home? There are people who have tweeted they went home.

Like, it's, none of that matters. Any judge worth his weight in his own balls would say, the machines were broken. You screwed up. New election. Shut your mouth. Instead, you get a bunch of cowards who are like, well, we all know the machines were broken. You screwed up. New election. Shut your mouth. Instead, you get a bunch of cowards who are like, well, we all know the machines were broken, but I don't want to be the one to take responsibility for this. That's what you have. You have weak men, weak men in this country who are unwilling to actually stand up and say, I'm sorry, I have to. And you know,

man, it's a bummer. I'm waiting for one of these Texas troopers or National Guardsmen to arrest one of these CBP guys. You know what I want to see? I want to see when one of these feds tries to remove the barrier from Texas, I want to see a Texas trooper walk right up and say, put your hands behind your back. You are under arrest for destruction of felony destruction of state property. Carries a minimum of one year and a $2,500 fine. And then read him his rights, lock him up.

I don't care who breaks the law. You break the law, you get arrested. That's how it's supposed to work. But too many of these people just go, oh, I don't want to be the one to do it. Oh, don't put it on me. I'm willing to bet most of these Texas troopers, if they saw the feds breaking law,

they'd just shrug and be like, I don't know, what am I going to do? But I'll tell you what. You saw that viral video of the firefighter getting arrested? This is why you ended up with Trump supporters throwing the thin blue line flag on the ground

and stomping on it a few years ago. Because you get a video where a firefighter parks the fire truck at an angle so that it creates a barrier as they're rendering aid to a guy who was in a car accident

and a cop yells at him to move the fire truck and they say, like as they're rendering aid to a guy who's in a car accident. And a cop yells at him to move the fire truck. And they say, like, we're rendering aid. So this is a viral video. A cop arrests the firefighter. Oh, great. So you get the FBI going to Bubba Wallace's garage because they found a garage pull rope. Meanwhile, the feds are quite literally facilitating human smuggling operations. And there's not a man with a spine or a set of balls in sight to tell them to stop. And this is what you will get in this country.

Everybody wants to take the path of least resistance. A cop says, look, if I go and try and stop these federal law enforcement officers from breaking the law, it's going to jam me up. It caused me a lot of problems. I'm going to ignore it. Ah, here's a low hanging fruit, a firefighter who's parked his fire truck on the side of a highway. He was trying to render aid to somebody. Nothing bad will happen to me. Well, granted that guy got sued. Apparently it's an older story and people have brought that up, but this is what's frustrating is that for, for a lot of these cops, there's no risk to pulling a guy over and giving him a speeding ticket. If he wasn't even speeding. Well, you know what?

You may have been speeding. I don't know. Maybe it was the other car. I'll give you a ticket. You deal with it. But then when they actually witness something that's actually a threat to them, they don't want to do it. Luke Rutkowski talked about this in New York. There was a guy stabbing people on the train and the cops were like, I'm not getting involved in that.

Sure. But, you know, if some guy jumps a turnstile, they're going to run him down and they're going to use force against them. No, that guy should get arrested. Don't get me wrong. Or he should get a ticket or whatever the fine is. But then when things actually get hot, we have no strong men in sight to actually try and deal with the problem. This is why I was saying I like UFC because these guys are using the platform

they have telling the machine to screw off at risk to themselves that, that I respect. To go back to your question, I have to say, Carrie Lake is one of the most impressive talents I've ever seen as a communicator, as a person. Not since I worked for Reagan have I seen anyone that good, that talented. She's extraordinary. She's going to have a great future. I think she got cheated. She's still fighting over that election while she's running

for the Senate, but she's the future over that election while she's running for the Senate but she is a she's the future without any question I love her man alright the real hydro px says Tim I will give you 10k if you take an IQ test here's an IQ test sending me over $200

while telling me you'll give me $10,000 to take an IQ test I think you failed. No, but shout out. We love real Hydro. He just rags in the super chats all day, every day. And I want to give you a shout out because I think you legit spent like $200 today ragging on me mostly. And I'm actually watching like the super chat revenue just going up as Hydro just rags over and over again.

He's so supportive of us. It's great. I don't know what to think. Like he's insulting me but giving me money at the same time. What do you do? A guy walks up to you and he hands you a $5 bill and calls you dumb.'s so supportive of us. It's great. I don't know what to think. Like he's insulting me, but giving me money at the same time. Like, what do you do? A guy walks up to you and he hands you a $5 bill and calls you dumb.

You're like, okay. You're like, this happens to me all the time. So people will go to Cameo and they say, you're a Russian trader and a piece of shit and a dummy.

I'm a dummy? I just got 200 bucks from you. Who's dumb? But I don't know. I was like, yeah, okay. I accept your terms, sir. Thank you for the super chat i appreciate it man i but also i'll look you're you're allowed to insult me and if you want to

spend money to to have it done like okay you know i don't read everybody's super jets uh you know all right phil dude bro says why is nobody saying desantis passes a six week six week abortion ban and that is kryptonite for swing states how would he be able to do battle to how would he be able to battle the media on that issue I have no idea I do think it is not palatable to voters I do think it would be uh it would be would have been problematic had he gotten to a general election I think you could be pro-life but not be that radical. I think it was, you know, look, the guy says he signs an executive order which prohibits the school boards in Florida from teaching a curriculum

that includes CRT or any of this gender nonsense. Sounds great. It's a great announcement, but not in the county where I live where they're doing it right now and in the seven largest counties well where's the governor been he's been in iowa so yeah it sounds good but it has no reality in terms of enforcement all right brian forsaken as the world crumbles says so what's the prediction if we lose the house the senate and the presidency um start digging a large hole the guy who's like his screen name is the world crumbles what do i do if everything falls apart that's the question well jesus well he's gonna look on the dark side and ask what are you guys gonna do argentina is looking pretty good to me uh you know i i like

malay a lot he's a friend of mine. Yeah, and I actually looked it up. There's like 100 acres for $4,000 in South Argentina. And I was like, this sounds really good. The only caveat, the only way to get there is by raft down a river. And Tim, let me tell you something. The best steak in the world.

Argentina. Unbelievable. Oh, wow. Well, that sounds great. We were hanging out at this place that they had like a heated pool and a hot tub, but there's snow everywhere. It's in PA. And I'm hanging out with Richie Jackson. And there's like two and a half feet of snow next to the pool that's just piled up. They turn the heaters on. You can go in the pool.

And he digs out a large hole, cave, into the hole, hole into the snow and then just looks at me and says i think this is what men are supposed to be doing to which followed up shortly after by him yelling out this is the best day of my life and it was one of the funniest things ever but i just bring that up because you know you don't you know men dig holes it's it's just a thing you know have you guys seen the meme no it's just like for some reason you start digging that's why elon musk once he gets all this money what does he do the boring company jeff bezos what he digs into a giant he digs into a mountain yeah mark zuckerberg builds a thing in kawaii whatever yeah just start digging all all right everybody if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this

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