Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #945 Audio LEAKED Of GOP Trying To BRIBE Kari Lake, Fears ASSASSINATION w/Derrick Evans

Episode Date: January 24, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Libby Emmons, & Serge join Derrick Evans to discuss leaked audio revealing Kari Lake had people trying to bribe her, Trump's performance in the New Hampshire Primary, Texas continu...ing to install razor wire despite the SCOTUS ruling, and voters saying immigration is more important than inflation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:28 public if he releases this information he will be assassinated what he literally says is i will put my key in my car and as if to imply they will murder him if he reveals what's actually going on behind the scenes. Presumably, Carrie Lake herself recorded this audio. I don't know for sure. The audio has been released and we can listen to it. It's been published by many news outlets, and they say that they've reached out to members of the GOP in Arizona who have confirmed it is in fact a member of the GOP who's doing this. We'll get into all the details on it. The reason why I bring up Civil War stuff is i could not imagine in my lifetime the powers that be losing such control that audio is released of them attempting to bribe someone running for office into bowing out these are things of of myth and legend we can only
Starting point is 00:02:23 speculate towards. We know something happened behind the scenes. We know something was wrong with those voting machines in Arizona. And now there's an actual recording for 10 minutes where a guy's saying, maybe there's a company, we can get you some money, just disappear for a few years. What's the number? This stuff's crazy. And there's other reasons why I say civil war. First, let's get through the
Starting point is 00:02:46 weeds on this one. Trump was already projected the winner of the New Hampshire primaries. That's why I really don't care about it. It is interesting in this story. We actually have Democrats being interviewed saying they are literally Democrats voting for Nikki Haley to sabotage the Republican primary and then go vote for Joe Biden. Not kidding. I'll play the video for you, but this is not news. I mean, it is, it's interesting. Oh, OK. Hey, look, Trump won. Trump has already been projected to win. But we'll see. We'll see. Very, very few of the votes are in and some are concerned this is a trick so that Trump voters leave and don't vote. So make sure you just you stick around and you vote. But the next major issue is that following the Supreme Court ruling in Texas that the
Starting point is 00:03:27 feds have the authority to remove razor wire. Not only did Texas announce that they will not back down, they will not allow feds to remove the razor wire. They actually just brought more in. That is why I say, wow, Civil War. The uniparty establishment machine is losing a grip on its control and its power. The Epstein stuff somehow gets
Starting point is 00:03:52 released to the public. These deep backdoor conspiracies are being exposed. Their grip is slipping. And now we have actual conflict between states and the federal government. We're going to talk about all that. Before
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Starting point is 00:05:50 together about 15 years, have four kids. Most people know me as the state legislator in West Virginia who went to the Capitol on January 6th to peacefully and patriotically protest the stolen election and got arrested, thrown in prison, and now I'm running for Congress. Well, right on. It should be interesting. you'll have some good insights i suppose on how all that stuff is going down especially as you're talking about the carrie lake stuff so thanks for hanging out yeah we got hannah claire hanging out hey i'm hannah claire brimlow i'm a writer for scnr.com i think it's hilarious that you lead with i'm married to my college sweetheart good family values i like to start the show that way speaking of family values one of my favorite
Starting point is 00:06:23 moms is in the room hi libby hey i just want, I just want to say, this is Libby Emmons. The Wall Street Journal and the New York Times have both already called it for Trump. They both said that Trump wins the New Hampshire GOP primary. Nikki Haley. We'll get into this. But Nikki Haley is going to use the numbers to say it is not over, even though they're not Republicans voting for it. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Well, she is pretty, she does uh it's 54 to 45 so she's actually closer than people thought she might be but it's and it's 18 of the votes are in so just like with iowa they called it way early yep um and this is libby emmons i'm with the post-millennial and uh i am sir.com with timcast irl and uh i hope you guys enjoy the show be a good one all right let's jump into this big news ladies and gentlemen breaking post millennial arizona gop chair tried to bribe carrie lake to not run for senate leaked audio he told lake people were willing to put their money where their mouth is i mean the audio from this is absolutely absolutely nuts he says things like very powerful people don't want you to run. Quote, there are very powerful people who want to keep you out.
Starting point is 00:07:32 He told Lake in a conversation last March. Jeff DeWitt told her that the people were willing to put their money where their mouth is. This is about defeating Trump. And I think that's a bad, bad thing for our country. She replied, these people are corrupt. It's about control. After Lake asked what the powerful people wanted from her, he said, they want you to
Starting point is 00:07:52 stay out for two years. I'll tell you what I can offer you. DeWitt continued saying that there were companies that could, quote, just put her on the payroll to keep her out of the Senate race in the state. When Lake pushed back against the idea, DeWitt asked, just say, is there a number at which Lake cut in saying I can be bought? That's what it's about. After insisting to Lake that she could have a bigger voice in politics and to take the offer of the bribe, Lake said that doing so would be immoral and she wouldn't be able to look at herself in the mirror the same. DeWitt insisted that Lake not tell anyone the conversation happened.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Now, it's a 10 minute recording. I want to play everything, but I do want to play the end part where he fears assassination. But I also want to point out in it, he mentions you can be a big personality. You could be a big voice. It is about defeating Donald Trump. That's why they want her out for two years. They want Trump to lose. After that, then you can do whatever you
Starting point is 00:08:50 want. Let me play the last portion of this, and you can hear it for yourself. This stuff's wild. And, okay, let me refresh, because X video always does that. And let's try again. It's about DeSantis? Getting DeSantis in?
Starting point is 00:09:06 Getting DeSantis is getting Trump in. You're reading too deep into it. Well, let's see what happens. Maybe my case will go through. Maybe they'll do the right thing. I doubt it. I hope so. I do too.
Starting point is 00:09:20 That's my first goal. But they can't have me in the governor's office because then we're going to root out some of this corruption. You know what it is? The people don't get to choose their elected officials unless they're pre-approved by the swamp. And the swamp doesn't pre-approve of me. You need a strong party to help you win.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I think you should go public with this and then say, hey, these people don't want to, they don't want... Then I turn my key in my car and I go. I like my car. Then I turn my key in my car and it goes. Very powerful people sent this man to bribe Carrie Lake into dropping out because they want their pre-approved candidates to be put in place and they were going to pay her off so that she would stop trying and this man says if he goes public they will kill him it with a car bomb now maybe he doesn't literally
Starting point is 00:10:14 mean car bomb but he no no no no no then i turn my key in my car and i think the implication is very very obvious who are these powerful people? I mean, I'm going to be honest with you guys. We've been swatted several times. I know there are crazy people out there. People ask me if I'm ever concerned about my safety. And I always say I'm less concerned with Antifa than I am with the crazy man who thinks I broke into his house to steal all of his spoons. Crazy people see you and they say crazy things i don't know anyone that i fear in the immediate would try to kill me and i don't i mean i don't know if anyone else here or anyone's been on the show uh would in would in the immediate say
Starting point is 00:11:01 someone will kill me if i do a thing you know know what I mean? Yeah. This is a guy who's saying, if I take this action, they will kill me. He knows who they are. He knows the powerful people that have put him up to this. He knows them. Someone sent him there.
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Starting point is 00:12:20 because we hear about the deep state, the swamp, all these things. We hear about these kind of conversations taking place in politics. And then here we are. We get a firsthand listen to this. And so it's one thing to hear about it. I think it's totally different when you actually listen to the video and you hear that. It kind of put it in a new context for me and I'm sure many others out there as well.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Yeah, I mean, I think it's only breeding more distrust in the system that's already there. And I think in some ways, the political theater has gotten so dramatic that people really equate it to what was that show that had Frank on it and the and like all these DC sort of sick, not like draw on these words like house of cards thank you they think anything could happen but then things like this come out and they say oh it's all real it's all real uh and they i think that's ultimately plays into sort of this elite group's uh power right they want you to be scared well nobody ever came here and offered me a bunch of money for any of this stuff what's going on if this is what's going on then we have a situation uh in american politics that is a real problem this is what we see in russia we see this kind of thing in ukraine we see this kind of thing where people are just taken out you never hear from them again in china if we have a situation where we have political um operatives operating behind the scenes to take people out if they do a misstep then then I think most Americans would not be prepared for that reality.
Starting point is 00:13:47 It sounds like Carrie Lake recorded this because of the volume of her voice and the volume of Jeff's voice. I'm wondering why it is it took this long for it to get released. Maybe she just now felt comfortable doing it. I don't know. But it's crazy too, because this is Carrie Lake. This isn't some no-name politician. So the fact that they felt comfortable enough to go to someone like Carrie Lake and have that conversation, what are they doing to other people that's just coming in? Desperate enough. Yeah, desperate enough. That's why I was saying in the intro to the show tonight, Civil War.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Oh, you better be careful because I'm going to say that a lot tonight with what's going on they're so panicked and desperate over what carrie lake represents she is america first she is like she is like trump and they're probably thinking we nip this in the bud now because if she actually advances politically in this country, we are dealing with Trump once again. This time, I'll be completely honest. Carrie Lake is a bit more. What's the right word? Orthodox. I mean, more poised, poised is maybe the right word.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Trump is a brash celebrity character and they find ways to use that to make him look bad. But Carrie Lake has decades of television experience, and she comes off like top tier, political, high level, poised, I suppose is probably the best way to put it. That is something they will have they will struggle with if she is running for higher office if she is succeeding if she's in the senate they're not gonna be able to stop her trump trump gives them some ammunition sometimes and they're going as dirty as possible right now we know what comes next for carrie lake because in conspiracy world it goes like this. The first thing they do is they ask you to play ball. Hey, you know, we really like what you're doing. Why don't you come work with us?
Starting point is 00:15:50 And then you say, no, I'm not interested. I don't like what you do. Then they offer you money. Okay. Hey, I got this really great opportunity. Why don't you take this job in this other place? When you refuse the money, the next step is the threats. The next thing that happens is maybe there's a car accident, you know, family member has an unfortunate turn and we would hate
Starting point is 00:16:14 for that to happen. In the conspiracy world, typically it goes with recruitment, failure, bribery, failure, threats of violence and assassination. And we've talked about that book was a confessions of an Economic Hitman, where he talks about on the larger scale, basically you go to a country, you say, you are now part of our machine, our empire. And if they say no,
Starting point is 00:16:32 then you offer a bunch of money and say, hey, we'll give you all these things. They say no. Then you stage a coup and remove them from power and install someone who will do what you want them to do. It's like that Mighty Python sketch when they're like, that was a nice country you've got here.
Starting point is 00:16:44 It'd be a shame. Something happened to it. Yeah. Yeah. So I can only imagine with the release of this audio and the man being recorded saying effectively, they will kill him. Carrie Lake,
Starting point is 00:16:56 man. She needs to buy. She got to hire some security for her family. They weren't scared of her before. I'm sure they are now. Cause I mean, she says in the audio, like you're going to have to kill me.
Starting point is 00:17:04 You're not going to buy me. You're not going to pay me off. And so she stood up to this. And so I think if they weren't scared of her before, I'm sure they are now. Because I mean, she says in the audio, like, you're going to have to kill me. You're not going to buy me. You're not going to pay me off. And so she stood up to this. And so I think if they weren't scared of her before, they probably definitely are now. I fear they will. I mean, look, the sheer desperation we are seeing from the political elites in this country is not beyond any of that right now. Look, it is allegedly
Starting point is 00:17:25 a conspiracy theory that Epstein killed himself. What I mean is the mainstream media purports that not a single real person in this country believes Epstein killed himself. No, and that interview
Starting point is 00:17:36 with his brother was really pretty shocking. The best line ever came from Chris Raga on YouTube personality. After it happened, he said he got into an Uber and the first thing that happens
Starting point is 00:17:46 is the driver turns around and goes, yo, that guy didn't kill himself. Nobody believes it. Epstein himself and his story was a conspiracy theory. Now we know, it's a fact. Ghislaine Maxwell's in jail, proven. And they still haven't released the client list. Now that we're starting to see beyond the curtain
Starting point is 00:18:03 that these things are happening, now that we actually got leaked audio of someone trying to bribe carrie lake i will say right now i'm just gonna go ahead assume all the rest of it's true the funny thing is people have been saying for some time like two years now conspiracy theory what is luke's got a shirt conspiracy theories are just spoiler alerts right six months it's true it happened with all of them and it happened in such quick succession you know it was like getting whiplash everything that we were told was true was a complete lie and now we see you know you'll see a lot of conversations bubbling up about the way that history has been taught and we're suddenly realizing oh they taught us x y and z about our national history. And if you dig into it, it turns out those things weren't true
Starting point is 00:18:49 either. I had a professor in grad school who went through a whole bunch of stuff. He was like a Cuban refugee as a child, and he was brought to Florida and all this stuff. And when things would happen and we'd talk about history, he'd be like, listen, that's not how it happened. That's not how it happened at all. And he'd start explaining what it looked like, you know, from his perspective, having lived through it. But we're seeing that all over the place. And it's just compounding. It's hard to have any idea where to put your foot that's going to be solid ground. And I think it's changing forms, too.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah. Instead of it just being, oh, well, this is how I was taught this in high school. I mean, I remember being taught stuff and being like, this obvious has bias to it. But now it's also sort of these historically based miniseries that Netflix puts out and they're actually slightly inaccurate. But that's where a lot of people are learning
Starting point is 00:19:38 kind of the gist of what happened or they think the gist of what happened during various points in time. It ultimately becomes plausible deniability for anyone in the media who gets to be like, oh, well, we took some creative liberties here, but we don't have a strong enough and unbiased education system to say, here, here's what you need to know. And you can watch this and discern where they are taking sort of a political leap and where this is actually what happened. The entire concept of deconstruction
Starting point is 00:20:05 that started in philosophy has now just hit reality. We're deconstructing everything every day. Well, and to your point about everything kind of speeding up, I feel like they never expected President Trump to win in 2016. It kind of threw a wrench in their globalist agenda and their plan. Remember everybody crying the next day, like literally sobbing. And since then, everything has kind of just been in overdrive. It's speeding everything up. And I really think the left has overplayed their hand with a lot of this, though. I mean, back to the lockdowns and the mandates and all that, and what we saw from that were parents were at home listening to what was going on inside the classrooms and all these other things. And so I feel like they almost overplayed their hand.
Starting point is 00:20:42 A lot of people have woken up to this. I mean, if you go back seven, eight years, not even 10, I mean, seven, eight years and tell everybody what took place over the last few years, they would say, you're crazy. There's no way that's going to happen. Yeah. And here we are living in it. Yeah. I mean, but you don't remember people crying, right? Because you're from West Virginia.
Starting point is 00:20:57 That's right. Which had, I mean, there really are states and cities that had completely different experiences. Trump coming to office was something that a lot of people celebrated very intensely. But, you know, you were in Brooklyn at the time. I was actually it was it was pretty crazy. My friends were sobbing and I didn't vote for Trump, but I wasn't sobbing. I was like, oh, now we have a different president and I'm going to support the president because I'm an American.
Starting point is 00:21:20 That's what I do. Well, I was saying if Nikki Haley won tonight in New Hampshire, I'd be laughing my ass off that'd be hysterical it'd be it'd be funny let's jump to this so uh we did not lead with the new hampshire primary news despite the fact that some had already called the race for trump but now we have officially numerous outlets have called new hampshire for donald trump that's not the big story however of course Of course, Donald Trump won. I don't see any plausible scenario. Like there's no reason for these primaries, except Democrats are trying to look, man, I have so much disdain for these people that scream my democracy while publicly stating their intention to destroy our institutions and even the concept
Starting point is 00:22:07 of democratic representation meaning we democratically elect a representative in our republic here's the story take a look at this so there's dave wasserman calling it for trump i want to play this clip nuance bro has the tweet from cnn democrats are voting for nikki haley tonight in new hampshire they're biden supporters check this nikki haley and why did you vote for nikki But Nuance Bro has the tweet from CNN. Democrats are voting for Nikki Haley tonight in New Hampshire. They're Biden supporters. Check this. Nikki Haley. And why did you vote for Nikki Haley?
Starting point is 00:22:31 It's a vote against Trump. I think it would be better to have her against Biden in the elections than it would be Trump and her. Do you consider yourself generally independent, Republican or Democrat? Democrat. So when you undeclared, you voted for Nikki Haley. If it was Nikki Haley against Joe Biden in a general election, who are you voting for? Joe Biden. What is the. They outright have no they have no scruples.
Starting point is 00:22:57 They have no morals. That that is like, look, I say the banality of evil a lot, but this is why I've been I've been saying civil war, man. The process be damned to these people. Republicans keep playing this game of look how magnanimous we are. And the Democrats keep laughing and trying to knife them in the back. Here's a guy who's saying your party's process means nothing to me. I will vote for the worst candidate imaginable knowing republicans will not vote for so that when i vote for joe biden i can win what what form of government would you call that
Starting point is 00:23:31 if joe biden wins under those circumstances what form of government would this man call that it's not democracy it's not a republic i don't know what you'd call it i don't either it's a system of governance where one faction sabotages the other to install a minority, less pop, like massively unpopular candidate. Joe Biden's popular. What was his approval rating in the 30s? It's like 33% the last time I looked. It was like extremely low.
Starting point is 00:23:57 This guy's a fascist. Is it a fascist? Is it? I've been sort of weighing. Is it authoritarian? Is it totalitarian? Is it fascist? It literally is.
Starting point is 00:24:05 That's exactly It literally is. That's exactly what it is. It's the kind of thing that people who have no faith in the system of government that they live in would do. And no faith in Joe Biden, right? He doesn't actually think Joe Biden could match up against Trump. Well, he doesn't think. Yeah, that's a really good point. So he's trying to say we have to get Nikki Haley in there to help Biden out because if
Starting point is 00:24:22 it's a Biden Trump mashup, I mean, he's not saying it, but the subtext there is Biden will get defeated by Trump. There are a substantial number of polls, I think, where Trump leads Biden in the general. Yeah, multiple out there. And it's amazing, though, how the left, you know, they will they're so fascist all in the name of anti-fascist. And then, you know, they're they're so intolerant all in the name of tolerance it's amazing and fascinating how their minds work and what they do and then you know tim keeps mentioning you know potential civil war and i unfortunately have to agree we're i think we're headed to that direction hope we don't but you got to think back uh but prior to the last civil war um that's when the democrats were removing people from the ballot then they removed abraham lincoln
Starting point is 00:25:03 from the ballot leading up to the civil war. Now they're trying to do the same thing. That's a misconception. The idea of ballots being publicly created and given out is a new phenomenon that did not exist at the time of the civil war. What happened was the Republic, typically the parties would create their ballots.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Here are our candidates, give them out to people and say, you can basically sign it and and drop in drop in the ballot this is who you're voting for so it was a party line ballot in i believe it was 10 democrat states republicans did not issue ballots because it wasn't so there were two big reasons one they thought it was a waste of time and energy you are not going to win in slaves in these slave states that oppose money but a big a big factor was that they were concerned that anyone who supported the republican party and the abolition of slavery in these states
Starting point is 00:25:50 who was seen carrying a ballot would be shunned at worst beaten considering we were in the in the bleeding kansas era where you had people like john brown shooting people in the face no one's going to be seen carrying a an abraham an Abraham Lincoln ballot in the southern states. So they were just not released by the party. The population so fearful, partly to even do that because they were afraid of what the other Democrats would do to them if they were to support somebody who was against slavery. Not a single vote was cast for Abraham Lincoln in the states that went on to secede. Nobody would be caught dead doing it well because then you would be dead so it's you know not the same as not having you know having someone removed from the ballot but uh because of that people have misconstrued
Starting point is 00:26:36 it to democrats removed them from the ballot yeah they didn't have ballots back then they had party line ballots so i i fact-checked all that and it's uh i think it's actually to a certain degree more worrying as to you know i think it was worse back then the fear that the people are killing each other you know you had bleeding kansas for seven years where people were just showing up and shooting each other john brown walks to a guy blasts him in the face just kills him no questions uncare that's crazy it is where we're at now aaron danielson was walking down the street michael reynolds walked up to him and blasted him in the chest two bullets killing him just because and so it's it's fascinating to me that we're in an era where these stories could absolutely
Starting point is 00:27:19 begin but you know back to this stuff democrats are publicly admitting there are no elections that guy going on cnn and and admitting this other democratic candidates saying that they've shut down our primary so we can't vote marion williamson is it and i think dean was it dean phillips yeah dean phillips of minnesota that's right and i got i got word spit with this guy So Marianne Williamson is it? And I think Dean was a Dean Phillips of Minnesota. That's right. And I got I got word spit with this guy. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. Marianne Williamson.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I like they're saying, why are we being barred from the primary? Why are we? Why is this not being allowed? Because the Uniparty is in control. They're fascist zealots like that man are going to make sure there is no election. They will subvert it through every loophole imaginable so that the least popular candidate wins all while screaming it's everybody else who's a fascist. Well, didn't they also steal the primary from Bernie Sanders back in 2016? Yeah. So, I mean, there's just nothing they've done this before.
Starting point is 00:28:19 The thing, too, is like they refused to the Democrats refused to go into New Hampshire. They tried to push them to do South Carolina instead. And then when it looked like there were going to be contenders, they launched a write in campaign, even though Biden's not on the ballot. And, you know, that's incredibly rude, too. That's like a definitely take your cake and eat it, too, situation. And Biden has 73 percent of that. Phillips has 20 percent right now with like how much in i mean i'm looking 31 percent 31 percent so as for this phillips guy he's got this video where he's
Starting point is 00:28:53 complaining to the press saying you won't cover my story you're not asking the right questions he's he's like biden can't win i am trying to do this why won't you tell the right story laura lumer shows up she had showed up to a marion williamson event totally respectfully saying i agree with you you are right it is wrong what they're doing they threw her out yep so this guy wants to claim oh the media they won't cover my story well now you've got someone with a massive platform who is not here to berate you but to actually amplify your message and you throw her out and it's because they're like oh well we want to make sure we look good to the press the press that won't actually these people are and
Starting point is 00:29:29 then marion williamson gave her a microphone and to basically and you could see laura wasn't there to to cause any issues she was truly there as a journalist this is why we like marion williamson yeah marion williamson was like oh welcome yes please there you go have fun and they they agreed and marion williamson was like i thought you're gonna ask me about how they're doing this that and just went off on him and i'm like good but like this like people like dean phillips he wants to win the democratic primary what he really wants is for the corporate press to acknowledge him that's what he's complaining about laura loomer doesn't count he doesn't care about her he doesn't care about what her followers or the average
Starting point is 00:30:04 person might think he wants the new New York Times to acknowledge that he's running. And he's so frustrated. I don't understand why they won't. Perhaps it's because your party is run by fascists and they are corrupt. Unsurprising. But that's what you get. And this is where we're headed right now. So, you know, my view of this is if if people have said this could be the last election. In fact, we have a book right here. Look, it's just because we have all these things just lying around. Hey, shout out to Stephen Marsh, who gets cited on this show so often, despite the fact we agree on a lot of things. He's researched and written about civil war. He wrote a book with Andrew Yang called The Last Election. I think he's wrong, though. This isn't the last election i think he's wrong though this isn't the last election the last election was 2016 oh you think so you think we already saw well the last legitimate
Starting point is 00:30:50 election i think you could technically argue that the last election was 2012 interesting agreed 2016 they democrats claimed it was stolen and russia stole it and then they they tried to destroy donald trump false impeachments They claimed it was stolen for four years. The whole time. It's okay when they do it though. It's okay when they do it. Well, because it's hierarchy, not hypocrisy. Did we actually have an election in 2016
Starting point is 00:31:12 if half the country's political forces disrupted the administration? 2020. Well, the right doesn't think that was legitimate. Did we have an election then? No. 2016 was disputed by the Democrats. 2020 is disputed by the Republicans. and right now democrats are actively admitting they're actively sabotaging
Starting point is 00:31:30 and admitting to sabotaging the 2024 election in every way from the democratic primary to the republican primary they are saying to our faces they are going to burn the system to the ground there's no election well did you see at his uh his at his pro-abortion themed rally in Virginia Day, Joe Biden opened up by going, hello, Virginia. And hello to the real governor of Virginia, Terry McAfee. I don't know if I'm saying the name right. But it's like if Trump had done that in a state where it had been a contentious election, everyone would be like, election denier. And I know there are some Republicans doing that now. McAuliffe, thank you.
Starting point is 00:32:02 I was like, McAfee? It's like when I'm writing it, I switch all the letters around. Shout out to Chris Carr for being a great editor. But there is this moment where it's sort of more brazen. It's okay when we do it and it seems to be escalating. And this is the same rally
Starting point is 00:32:16 where there were like 14 interruption by pro-Palestine protesters during, I mean, there were four in the first five minutes. So there is discord all around. But there's definitely a moment, in my opinion, where people who vote Democrat are sort of looking at the party and saying, do we believe you? And do we represent you? And do you actually know what we want out of you? And I think in some ways, the interesting part about Trump's candidacy is it was a reckoning of there is a huge population in this U.S. who wants certain things like border security.
Starting point is 00:32:46 They want you to address the fentanyl crisis. They want you to take on certain issues that, to be fair, the Republican sort of old guard just didn't take seriously because it didn't seem to affect them. They didn't take it seriously. And I think the American leftists didn't take it seriously. They didn't think that it's like that we have a total disconnect in, again, the nature of reality here. And we do in so many cases. You have a bunch of people in the United States
Starting point is 00:33:12 saying that men are women. That's just insane. It's obviously insane. You have Joe Biden saying that the border is closed and that Congress needs to do something to act to close the border. But everyone knows full well that Congress has absolutely no power right now, right? I mean, even if Congress passed something, the Senate's not going to take it up.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Joe Biden would not sign any bill that actually closed the border. It just would not happen. But I will say this, though. The Democrats, and I despise what they stand for, but they actually fought for what they believe in. They have shut this country down before. And we have a bunch of, in my opinion, spineless jellyback rhinos representing us in Congress right now who are just continuing. Can you just say that again? Spineless jellyback rhinos.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And they continue to just give them whatever they want instead of holding the line. It's like our country's being invaded right now. Who cares if we end up shutting the border down in order to secure funding for that or to close the border in some way? Let's jump to the story from the Postmillennial. Texas installs more razor wire on Eagle Pass border after Supreme Court said Biden could remove it. Texas will not back down from our efforts to secure the border in Biden's absence. I was thinking about the Civil War earlier today and uh fort sumter the start of the civil war we say fort sumter and then there's the uh first battle of bull run or the battle of
Starting point is 00:34:31 manassas and i'm thinking i wonder if in 100 years they're going to say the first battle at eagle pass or they're going to say eagle pass was the start of the second civil war i don't know you know it could just we can't see the future. It'll be hindsight being 2020. 100 years from now, they're going to look back and who knows? They could say the 2020 election. They could say January 6th. They could say a lot of things. But right now, what we're looking at is an escalation of what is effectively a Fort Sumter-esque moment.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I said it was literally Fort Sumter and Ian got mad and he said, no, it's figuratively. Because they're not actually there. And I'm like, no. I am saying it is literally the circumstances of Fort Sumter. In this instance, the federal government has asserted its jurisdiction on a border. However, it is facilitating criminal actions. Customs and border protection agents are committing crimes, serious humanitarian violations and criminal activities. Texas is trying to stop them deploying armed soldiers i think people should understand it's fascinating when i talk about
Starting point is 00:35:33 civil war several years ago and people are like you really think there's going to be like armed soldiers marching against the federal government it turns out texas deployed armed national guard to push out the feds who have went to the Supreme Court, asserted their jurisdiction here, and Texas said, F off.
Starting point is 00:35:53 What does the federal government do? Well, as long as Texas is going to hold the line, which I think is awesome and I support them doing that, I think that we need to encourage more red states to follow suit.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Like West Virginia, for instance, Ohio, Kentucky, send in the National Guard as well to to give them some backup right now you think we should send in national guard to texas well texas's national guard is there i believe that they're going to hold the line on this issue of our country being invaded right now i would love to see west virginia oh man send ours in there to send back up you have such a huge escalation yeah well i think that that's warranted you have no idea what what i would do if i was the governor of west same that's what i'm if i was in what I would do if I was the governor of West Virginia.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Same. If I was in charge, I'm not talking 10 people to get a headline. I would send the National Guard down there, and I would encourage my surrounding states to do the same. And governors have done some of that. I would instruct the West Virginia National Guard to seize the CBP facility over on 340. We know for a fact CBP agents, they're on camera smuggling humans, children, children, sex trafficking. It is insane to me.
Starting point is 00:36:50 There was a video I showed earlier where someone actually interviewed one of these agents as they're facilitating human smuggling, working with cartels. And they go, well, it's crazy. They're letting them in. And the guy, I don't know who actually produced the video. He says, basically, it's strange because when they say they're being allowed in, it's CBP who's doing it.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Now, there's a facility over in West Virginia, not too far away from here, a massive CBP facility. I didn't know this. I didn't know that. Oh, it's right over there. Yeah. And I'm wondering, how could anyone work? I don't care if you're slinging coffee. Yeah. We know for a fact that CBP agents are engaged in human trafficking right now.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Children. Children working with cartels, breaking the law, and are staging. They are the villains, the bad guys, fighting against the sovereignty and the law. And there are people in west virginia like it's my job yeah it's my job oh well you're a scumbag but i think this question of how will we remember this period of history is really interesting like you're saying are we going to look back this and say is this the battle of equal past to me it reminds me more of the standoff at ruby ridge right there was a time when we saw the federal government being aggressive and we waited
Starting point is 00:38:02 to see what would happen in this case ruby ridge was a handful of people but i'm i'm what i'm saying is it's interesting to look back and say you know at the time the federal government said we're justified in what we're doing and we look back and say like was that the correct thing to do will we look back at the border people who don't necessarily see illegal immigration as a problem and will they look back at it and say yeah will they say oh we should have let the razor wire stay? Oh, we know why Texas is. We understand this now because we live with the consequences of those actions. And this is why this is not a time for weak politicians. I mean, it really isn't.
Starting point is 00:38:32 This is a time where we need some patriots to get involved in politics. We have too many politicians in politics because a politician is not going to send in the National Guard from West Virginia, Ohio or Kentucky. But a patriot, someone like Carrie Lake, because she was in charge of Arizona right now. I guarantee you their national guard would be doing the same thing right now at the Arizona border. Well, that was one of her campaign promises. Exactly. I think West Virginia state governance should immediately have an investigation into the
Starting point is 00:38:57 CBP facility. Yes. They should be subpoenaing records. They should be getting warrants. They should be going through all their documents. To what degree is the CBP in West Virginia working with or facilitating the trafficking that's happening at the border? Because we know, and I'm wondering how much this affects West Virginia. We know that CBP is bringing these people to airports, to bus charters, and having them sent around the country.
Starting point is 00:39:21 In an interview, one of these guys says they're given a $2 is it, a $2,000 or $3,000 gift card? Yeah. And they're given accommodation and places to sleep. I do not believe West Virginia is not one of these destinations. I think it is extremely likely
Starting point is 00:39:36 these people are being sent here to the extent that they can be due to infrastructure. I think the fact that we know and I've seen on video, and you can go down there and witness it for yourself, that CBP agents are engaged in human trafficking. That's more than enough probable cause for the legal apparatus of West Virginia to go in with a bunch of guys in police jackets and start ripping through those documents to figure out what it is CBP is doing and why they're doing it.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I think anybody who works for CBP at this point who hasn't resigned over this is a scumbag. Well, let me just say if our West Virginia elected legislators and elected officials are not going to do that, then they should
Starting point is 00:40:13 everyone be primaried and kicked out of office because if they don't have the courage to step up and do that when it's happening in our state, because they love,
Starting point is 00:40:19 everybody loves to sit back and say, oh, this is happening over in another, this is happening, I didn't know this was happening in West Virginia.
Starting point is 00:40:24 This is crazy because I'm on the other side of the state. Well, we don't know what is happening. Well. I didn't know this was happening in West Virginia. This is crazy because I'm on the other side of the state. Well, we don't know what is happening. I mean, that there was a facility there. I didn't know this. And so I agree. I think that the very least there should be some proper investigations into that. We know there's 85,000
Starting point is 00:40:38 missing children that we know of right now. Well, and there's got to be more than that, right? Because there's a rule and this was, again, this was like a judge who said that it was like a, you know, the Flores settlement, this whole thing. So basically, like a judge said that children need to be released. Unaccompanied minors need to be released. They can't be held without, you know, for like a very long time or whatever. And they were very displeased with the the conditions that children were being held in so it was like okay the children have to be released children would be released there'd be sponsors etc dhs doesn't even know who the sponsors are there's no vetting and then after and this was like in when was the flores thing it was like in the 90s or something like that but it keeps coming up and then obama took the flores settlement and was like, okay, well,
Starting point is 00:41:26 we're going to have to separate the kids from the adults. And that's how family separation started. You separate the kids from the adults so that the kids would be released, but you wouldn't be releasing the adults. And then this, you know, it comes up again and it turns out now you have to release the adults with the children if they come across. And it creates this golden ticket situation. And you don't even know who the adults are. And you have like so many reporters have gone down and reported on the border showing that people, before they cross the border, they'll ditch their ID documents. Yeah, they show them laying there around the border. People need to remember your tax dollars are paying for our own government.
Starting point is 00:42:05 You're aiding and abetting the child sex trafficking of children. It's crazy. When you look at the effect and the impact, you can only start to believe that this is what they wanted to happen. Absolutely. They must want a huge cartel backed child sex ring happening in the United States. They must want lots of our citizens to be dying from fentanyl overdoses. They must want that. They must want the destruction of our cities.
Starting point is 00:42:31 They do. They actually show that. They were literally, like, think about it. At one point, they were saying all the borders closed. They were just saying it was blind. But then Texas, it starts building their own barriers. And the Joe Biden administration, the Democrats are actively suing to open it back up. So they can't even hide from this anymore
Starting point is 00:42:48 and pretend that it's not their policy. But then they say, well, Congress has to do something. But we're going to sue so we have the right to do it. And I would veto any bill that comes across the desk. They're literally fighting to open the border and allow our country to be invaded. There's no way around it. The bad guys here are the CBP agents
Starting point is 00:43:04 themselves. They're the Nazi guards. They're the, there's no way around it. The bad guys here are the CBP agents themselves. Yeah. They're the Nazi guards. They're the Nazi guards. I will say this right now. I will lighten up a little bit. To the CBP agents that may hear this, you know, I assume if you're just now finding out, like you were, let's say you work in the facility
Starting point is 00:43:19 over off 340 and you're filing paperwork and you do accounting stuff and you have no idea what's going on. Okay, I think it's fair that upon discovery of what the Biden administration is doing, you resigning is the noble thing to do. For those that know exactly what's going on and what's being done and either are complicit involved in it or knowing it's happening, don't care and say, leave me out of it.
Starting point is 00:43:41 I'll take my paycheck. I will say there is nothing i pray for more right now than to see these people rot in prison for the rest of their lives you can come to me and you can offer me an infinity pool of ferrari and great mansion i'll say i want none of those things you come to me and say we'll give you one thing i say i want those people arrested i want them in jail i want each and every one of these cbp agents that's down there on the border arrested by the texas national guard and texas state troopers and locked up and i want them to cry and say but why and it's because you're a human smuggler you scumbags these people
Starting point is 00:44:15 are are are abject evil they are quite literally the i should say figuratively the demons in the devil's army i mean that figur, perhaps some people believe it literally. This smuggling operation that we are seeing that has Eric Adams in panic, Democrats freaking out, people in Chicago in uproar, their schools are being taken over. And it is these agents on the border with smiles on their faces saying, I don't know, I'm getting paid. Just doing my job.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Just doing my job. I'm getting paid. It's great. I get my paycheck. Hey, man, I don't care about what's happening in this country. I don't care what happens to you. I don't care how many people die. I don't care how many people die trying to cross through these deserts.
Starting point is 00:44:53 They are getting paid, and it's all they care about. I hope, if anything, and I don't believe this will happen, but I really hope that when Donald Trump gets elected, one of the first things he does is sends federal agents to arrest all of the agents that were involved in the human smuggling operations. It's the first thing he does when he begins his mass wave of deportations. He says the first thing we have to do is stop the human smuggling operation and those who facilitated it. We know for a fact who it was because their names are all in our books. And so I'm going to
Starting point is 00:45:26 make sure I do everything in my power that I lobby every politician I know that I speak with anyone I know who's working in government and say, I expect these men to be in prison. Now, to be fair, I expect criminal charges to be brought against them, the evidence to be presented in a court of law, and for the sentence to be warranted for the crime committed. And I don't know, how many years do you think you get for human smuggling? I'm going to look it up.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Not enough. Yeah, probably not enough. Maybe just a couple hundred hours community service? Oh, yeah. Something like that? The weed psychosis lady. No, but look,
Starting point is 00:46:02 there's going to be some guy who's 23 and he's like, I don't know. My boss just told me to be a human smuggler. And I'm like, okay. I'm looking forward to the day you cry and you cry as you're being ripped from your home and thrown into the back of a police car. Do you think that some of these people should be charged with treason for aiding and abetting the invasion of our country?
Starting point is 00:46:17 It's not treason. It's sedition. Or sedition. Do you think some of these people should be charged with some of that? I know that's a little bit different than the child trafficking. Correct. So the higher ranking agents who are aware of what's going on, yes, they're involved in a seditious conspiracy. People should be charged with some of that. I know there's a little bit different than the child trafficking. Correct. So the higher ranking agents who are aware of what's going on, yes, they're involved in a seditious conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I think the agents on the border who are just told, hey, be a human smuggler. Yeah. They know they're trafficking humans. Yeah. There's no way they don't know. They know. So that would be a human smuggling charge. Can't plead ignorance at this point.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Smuggling non-citizens into the U.S., it looks like it's punishable by up to 20 years in prison. Great. That's a good amount of time. It could be extended to life if someone dies as a result well there's been a lot that's died and there are already stories that we've pulled up where people have been criminally charged by the doj for transporting within the country criminal aliens so there were two soldiers two uh enlisted guys who didn't smuggle these guys across the border they were just transporting them knowing they were getting paid to do it. And they went to prison. That was several years ago.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I think that was during the Trump years. Now the Biden administration ordered these guys to be criminal. I'm sorry, dude. If your boss comes to you and says, rob a bank and you go, I guess I have to do it. I look forward to seeing you in prison. Now, real quick, the higher ups in the Biden administration, seditious conspiracy, 100%. Lock them up. I just think this is the point where people who work as border agents for the federal government should consider leaving for, you know, to be a border agent joining the Texas
Starting point is 00:47:34 National Guard. They should move to the state level because it seems, at least in this case, like the states are willing to do something the federal government isn't, which is to defend the rights of the people in their communities. I get that the idea of being like you can't just ask them to leave their jobs is scary i understand that but they are in a specialized career where as far as i know it's chronically understaffed at the state and federal level so they could leave they could change they could be whistleblowers no no no no no no no no no you come to me and you say tim i can't quit my job because my kids need food and
Starting point is 00:48:04 i say okay what's your job? I work at the Cracker Factory and I want to support Trump. My company's super woke and I'm scared if I speak up, I'll get fired. How am I going to feed my family? I say, well, that's a tough position.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I understand. I do. Do your best, make money, protect your family. You come to me and say, I can't quit my job. My kid needs food. I go, what's your job?
Starting point is 00:48:23 I'm a human smuggler. I say, I look forward to seeing you locked up. I look forward to the day me and say i can't quit my job my kid needs food i go what's your job i'm a human smuggler i say i look forward to seeing you locked up i look forward to the day your children are crying as they are ripped from your arms as you are thrown in the back of a police van for being a human smuggler you do not get to live in the comfort of your own home as a human smuggler you are you are these these are some of the darkest and most evil actions a person could engage in. And these guys are like, well,
Starting point is 00:48:47 my boss told me to do it. I don't care. But you have zero sympathy. Lock them up. You can also have a boss on a state level. That's like, no, no more razor wire.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Don't do that. Like you're choosing to work for the federal government where this is the order you're getting. There are states that, that wouldn't make you do this. Sure. Quit your, if you're in CBP,
Starting point is 00:49:02 quit right now. If you work for the customs and border protection Protection and you are getting a paycheck knowing what they are doing and you say, yeah, but my kid needs food. I want you in prison. I don't care. I have no sympathy whatsoever. I don't care what job you're doing. You are facilitating this.
Starting point is 00:49:16 When we have the majority of people in this country citing immigration as the principal issue, when you have Democrats and Republicans in uproar, when Biden laughs and says the border is not secure, knowing what he's doing. And you're like, I'm part of an organization that operates human smuggling operation. And I'm like, stop, don't do that. And you go, but my kids need food. OK, well, bank robbers, kids need food. And when they say I robbed a bank because I want to feed my family, we still put them in prison. I think that's I think that's a reasonable point. It does remind me a lot of the Nazi guards who were just doing their jobs. We still dragged a bunch of them back from Argentina or wherever and put them on trial at the Hague. Didn't we do that?
Starting point is 00:49:55 At some point, you've got to look yourself in the mirror and ask if what you're doing is moral or not. I mean, that's what it is. Everything we're really dealing with in our country, in my opinion, is spiritual warfare. We've got a lot of good versus evil going on in our country. And people, to Tim's point, they make excuses and say, well, I'm just doing this or I've got to do it for this reason. But what you're doing is one of the most cruel, unjust things you could ever do, which is aiding and abetting and actually participating in smuggling. Not just humans, but, I mean, children. This is absolutely despicable, and I love your outrage and i share it with you
Starting point is 00:50:25 i i'm you know we had uh michael mouse came on the show a long time ago and he said that i'm paraphrasing but the actions of politicians are letters to santa without the police yeah it is the actions of and and so i've had a lot of people try to make this play politicians come in here i'm like oh no no you can't blame the cops they're good people it's the leadership that's bad i say i don't leadership. Bill de Blasio can go out in the middle of the street, buck naked, screaming to the wind for all I care. It's meaningless. But if he does it and the cops then protect him while he's doing it. Now, that's the problem. The individual officers who are engaging in this activity. This goes back to when
Starting point is 00:51:03 de Blasio stole taxpayer funds to paint Black Lives Matter in front of Trump's Fifth Avenue building and then used, I think it was like 27 police officers to protect it. So stealing from the public coffers for a political purpose, for personal gain. And those cops had smiles on their faces while they were told. That's policing in New York City. Now, I mean, what we're seeing at Eagle Pass,
Starting point is 00:51:28 and not just Eagle Pass, but in Arizona and New Mexico, is shocking. What is it, an 80-year-old guy holds that old man? I think he's 82, but I'll double check. Cartel activity on his property.
Starting point is 00:51:38 He defends himself. They arrest him. They lock him up. That's why I'm like, no, there's no sympathy at this point. It's not just about one thing happening one time. It's about the state of the country and where we are right now, where you defend your property, you go to prison.
Starting point is 00:51:55 74, sorry. He was 74 years old. Just like the McCluskeys. I just aged him so dramatically. Remember the McCluskeys? They had to get a pardon just for standing outside of their home being like, don't you guys come in. People broke and ripped the fence down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:05 And they brandished firearms and they got in trouble for it. And that's the thing, though. I really believe if the American people thought that they were able to go to the border and help Texas National Guard defend the border right now and secure a border, you would see American patriots who would willingly go do this. But they can't because they're going to get thrown in prison if they were to even think about doing that. If they went down there at all, I mean,
Starting point is 00:52:26 they're threatening to arrest people for holding a video camera and videotape. And could you imagine what would happen? Yeah. Could you imagine if someone was down there saying, we're not going to let you in what they would do to these people? Isn't it crazy that Texas had to make, had to make a law that illegally entering Texas is illegal from an
Starting point is 00:52:42 international border was illegal. Yeah. That's just insane they started arresting people the other day the federal government tried stopping them yeah well and there's there's really technically when you get into the the roles of the federal government they're really limited what they're supposed to do they got way too big for their britches and and everything but one of the few things you're supposed yeah but one of the things they're supposed to do is actually secure the border you have so many few true jobs and you won't do it.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Exactly. And they're supposed to protect states from invasion. What is it like? Yes. Yeah, they're supposed to definitely do that. It's interesting looking at the Supreme Court and giving them the benefit of the doubt, right? Let's say we could give them the benefit of the doubt. If you look at some of their other cases recently or if you look at the oral arguments in Chevron the other day, the EPA versus West Virginia, even Dobbs,
Starting point is 00:53:30 if you look at these things, what they're doing is they are handing power back to the legislators. They're taking it away from the courts. They're saying, you know, and if you look at this situation, they're saying the court, this lower court does not have the right to decide what the federal government can do in this border situation. So you wonder, like, perhaps the Texas state legislature should start taking this stuff up. Perhaps Congress should look into impeaching some of these Supreme Court justices. They won't do it. I know. I would.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I'm telling you right now, day one, I'd be filing an article of impeachment. Congress should be impeaching Mayorkas. It doesn't make any sense that they're not. Absolutely. And it doesn't make sense that they're not and it doesn't make sense that they're not um yeah that's interesting let me pull up this story from the post-millennial u.s voters say immigration not inflation is a top priority harvard harris poll so uh post-millennial reports more voters are pointing to immigration as their top issue instead of inflation as the
Starting point is 00:54:20 country goes in the 2024 election a harvard caps harris poll of 2346 registered voters that was released on monday the survey found that 35 of respondents had immigration as their top concern and 32 percent named the topic of inflation immigration has jumped seven points from last month i spent the holidays in chicago they're trying to build camps sad what do you want to call them internment camps i don't want to say we should call them detention camps for illegal migrants concentration camps you could call them concentration camps in new york eric adams is putting a curfew on them yeah on the on the illegals on the illegal on the shelters that house the illegal immigrants so when people say inflation the only issue there is that these people aren't aware of immigration. Correct.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Because if you go to someone who's Gen Z and they're like, the rent is too damn high. I say, okay, what's your apartment? Say it's 70 square feet. I spent $2,000. I respond, did you know that New York is taking illegal immigrants and giving them hotel rooms with full bathrooms, kitchenettes, and a bed? The entire hotel. Everything's taken care of while you struggle to
Starting point is 00:55:25 pay your bills immigration is an inflationary issue absolutely 100 and then we should be we should impeach mayorkas it's it's absolutely mind-blowing that we don't our congress who's controlled by the house and or the the republicans control the house they don't even have enough backbone to impeach mayorkas right now this is mind-blowing they should all be primary we should be impeaching we should be impeaching joe biden absolutely you know you know the name of the game is you know why like a state like west virginia would not try to investigate cbp how much in federal dollars does west virginia receive exactly what it is so so unfortunate some of these smaller red states balance their budget on the backs of the federal dollars coming in.
Starting point is 00:56:06 That's really one of the things they hold hostage of the small states when it comes to the transgender issue in schools and the education stuff. That's the Department of Agriculture, too. Yeah, but the Department of Education. That's why I'm a proponent of getting rid of the Federal Department of Education. Well, quite frankly, I would abolish all the three-letter agencies and return to power back to the states and the local communities where they belong the department of agriculture was interesting because they were saying uh if you don't have these uh lessons about whatever gender theory ideology will cut the money for uh subsidized lunch which is then the bathrooms which and then and then they were like which obviously means that the headlines would be like
Starting point is 00:56:43 republicans vote against funding lunches for kids in need. Like they know what they're doing and they're being dishonest about it. I do. I still conservative small rural states pay the price. I will say I do think conservative media got a good handle on that story right from the beginning and said, you know, Biden administration is threatening free school lunches for kids over letting boys into girls' bathrooms. I thought we did a good job with that. The other thing, too, the Department of Agriculture is a disaster. They had this whole thing where they were prioritizing farm loans for minority farmers.
Starting point is 00:57:16 And you had a group of white farmers sued and they were like, this is discriminatory. And you had a judge actually say you can't fix current. You can't fix past discrimination with current discrimination and tom vilsack was you know handed his his loan papers back or whatever but he should be impeached also he's a disaster as well just nobody really pays that much attention to the department of agriculture because there's so many i mean you were making this point too it has gotten so big that people don't realize that it's the department of agriculture that oversees school lunches or Correct. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:57:45 They don't always know what the scope of every agency is. And part of that is because we've had so many different agencies that have been reshuffled and reorganized that we can't keep track of it. And I'm sure they can't either, which is horrible. Cut these agencies. Abolish them. Not just defund them. Abolish these three-letter agencies.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Return the power back to the states, back to the local communities, back to you and me and we the people. Because when it's at a localized level,'s accountability there's no account we have a bunch of unelected bureaucrats right now sitting in dc running our country behind the scenes with no accountability and how many staff people just sitting there like ordering lunch every day yeah just hanging out about office life think how expensive office there are bureaucrats like crossing off the calendar being like i'm so much closer to my government pension which you know people need jobs people need to work i'm not criticizing them for that it's just like ultimately why is this job available at all well no my answer to most these people is name one thing that the federal government does better
Starting point is 00:58:37 than the private sector yeah well that's a good question right i don't i can't name i can't name anything that the government does better than what the private sector would do. Yeah. Yeah, I don't see that. Oh, hold on. Waste money. Yeah, waste money. We're good at that. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I got to be honest. The private sector is really good at wasting money, but the government, man. At least there's accountability there. They really nailed it, though, in the government. Yeah. Well, because it's not their money, and they haven't earned it. Well, think about this. So you don't feel anything for losing money if you didn't earn that money.
Starting point is 00:59:04 It's just nothing. And you can just ask for more, at least with the private sector you'd have to eventually say to your shareholders like so that i would keep losing money right and with the government they can say we lost money but no worries you'll just give us more and we'll raise taxes if we imagine imagine being so bad at managing money that you steal every citizen in the country's money and you're still 34 trillion dollars in debt that is just insane you almost have to attempt to do that they literally still everyone's money we didn't stop at 34 and we're yeah we're 30 something trillion dollars in debt we're more than 34
Starting point is 00:59:32 now because it just keeps going up and there's no accountability though here we go here we go guys listen though this is the this is the thing are the spending originates in the house republicans have control of the house we have to as i'm a republican as republicans we have to own this at this point so why did they pass another uh you know cr we have a bunch of weak spineless spineless jellyback rhinos representing us in congress right now because they want to just kick the can down the road and sign another cr and allow all these things that's currently happening to continue happening instead of holding the line. That's what it comes down to. When you decided to run for Congress, you ultimately decided that you have to go to
Starting point is 01:00:08 the federal government, federal level to cut off problems that are affecting West Virginia rather than run for state because you did hold state power. Yeah. And unfortunately, the federal government has gotten so big that it does affect everyone. And I don't want that. I want to get rid of all that power. It's centralized at the federal level and return it back to the states where there's accountability. Once again, there are limited roles the federal government is supposed to have. One of them is securing our border, and they can't even do the one thing. Well, it's not that they can't.
Starting point is 01:00:33 They won't. But instead of worrying about all these other issues that's not part of their role, they should worry about the few things that they're supposed to do, which is that. And I think that our national security, the spending right now and our everything, our debt is really a matter of national security at this point. I mean, honestly, think about the interest rate alone is going to be like a trillion dollars a year on interest alone coming up. This is crazy. Yeah. I'll just print more money until the economy implodes. And I think that's honestly, I think that we're at the point, maybe that's what they're
Starting point is 01:01:03 trying to do. They realize that there's no going back at this point, so they're just printed and go. And then think about all the money we're sending to Ukraine, and our own countries being invaded, and we're sending money to other countries to secure their border. Well, and we're sending money all over the world for really stupid things
Starting point is 01:01:18 as well, like, you know, gender research in India, and all of these different kinds of things that don't make any kind of sense at all. We send money to the UN and then the UN goes out there and tells all of these nations. Again, you know, I hate to harp on it, even though I do all the time. The UN goes out there and the World Health Organization and they go out there and they tell everybody that they have to have more gender equity and trans. It's so sad that we send a single dollar to any of those organizations.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Right. It's absolutely ridiculous. It's really absurd. They still are single dollar to any of those organizations. Right. It's absolutely ridiculous. It's really absurd. They steal our money. We're in debt. $34 trillion in debt. They steal our money and they're sending it over
Starting point is 01:01:50 to these organizations who quite frankly hate us. Yeah, they do hate us. And we're funded. And so do like most of the illegal immigrants coming in hate us. Yep.
Starting point is 01:01:59 You know, what is it that they think they're going to get here other than take over? They're waving the flag of another country as they're coming across our border. Yeah, that's crazy too. I mean like if you know anyone who's taken a
Starting point is 01:02:06 citizenship like you are ultimately supposed to pledge loyalty to america you're supposed to adopt the values you're supposed to become patriotic on some level right and that's not the bar when you migrate illegally right when you assimilation should be the goal exactly we don't we don't have assimilation going on at all in fact we have you know a woke democrat uh powerful officials who are saying that people shouldn't assimilate because america is bad and their their own national heritage and whatever is better than america in which case like go home go home people in congress feel that way it's okay we have elected democrats in congress who literally openly say they hate our country i yeah like what. Like what all of the AOC people, right?
Starting point is 01:02:45 Her whole little crew. Yeah. But that means that their voters hear that message and resonate with it, right? Well, they vote for them. They want them. They want that to be. Ilhan Omar hates America. Why would you pick a, to me, I just can't, I can't wrap my mind around it.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Why you would pick an elected official that is like, I hate it here. I don't believe in anything. I don't like these values. I actively think everything is bad, and therefore I will not work for its betterment and its security. You are picking instability. How can you be okay with that? How can you inflict that on your neighbors? It must be what they want.
Starting point is 01:03:18 I think that our school system has really, unfortunately, indoctrinated a lot of the young people into believing a lot of this. They really do not like America, a lot of the young college into believing a lot of this they they they really do not like america a lot of the young college age kids right now we taught them to hate us and and what's because our public universities but in particular have been basically transformed into creating social justice warriors and that's what they're doing and that's why i think that we need to withhold funding from these universities if they want to push this social justice warriors and push people to our countries withhold that money you can become a public or a private university and fund it yourself if you want they want to push these social justice warriors and push people to hate our countries, withhold that money. I agree on that.
Starting point is 01:03:45 You can become a public or a private university and fund it yourself if you want to do those sorts of things. Or shut them down. Or shut them down and completely, I agree, but I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:03:52 And I don't want to pay back the student loans either. Yeah. I think that the universities should pay back the student loans with their own endowments. But then I think we should buy it unilaterally just doing it.
Starting point is 01:04:00 He's just doing it even though the Supreme Court said no. Yep. And we should stop issuing them. What does that mean for Texas? This is what i never get about student loans which is that it's a bad system we talk about constantly it's it's handcuffing yourself to debt as you launch into adulthood it's not a good return on investment for anyone's if
Starting point is 01:04:14 you were a small business as an 18 year old saying please give me money for this can't get it you wouldn't get it and yet we're still like well it's okay biden's gonna forgive them and then we'll just keep issuing them so we pretend like we want to eradicate this problem, we being the federal government right now, by forgiving the debt. But also we're actually perpetuating the problem because we still give out student loans that we know are bad. It just makes no sense. And people are expected to say, like, I'm not going to use any sort of critical analysis to say this is a broken system that's meant to entrap me. Well, before I got into real estate, I was a school teacher. That's kind of what I went to school for.
Starting point is 01:04:46 What year did you teach? What year? What grade do you mean? I taught fourth grade and then I taught some sixth grade. But the thing is that's crazy about what's going on in our school system right now. It would be less scary for me if I thought these teachers were pushing the social justice stuff from a malicious standpoint. The scariest part about all of this is they've been indoctrinated into believing it's their role
Starting point is 01:05:08 and their moral duty to overstep the parents and step in and push these issues. That's the scary part about this. Well, and they learned all that in the grad schools that are funded by the federal government that we should shut down. Absolutely. That's the scary part, honestly. So do you think that people are able to reconcile uh their own sense of self with the lack of morality in america i feel like ultimately one of the things that drives uh an abandonment of traditional american values is the internal selfishness that people are really
Starting point is 01:05:35 cultivating these days yeah i definitely understand where you're coming from on that and i just think that we are underestimating how uh young, 21 and under specifically, 25 and under, how they can be manipulated in some way. I mean, when you're into an environment where someone's placed in an authoritative level, like a professor, and they're telling you that this is what you're supposed to do as a teacher or whatever else, and you start to believe that, and then you turn on TV and billboards and everywhere, it's all around you, all the celebrities that you once again are up on this platform. And I think that they've just been manipulated. I really do. And I think that people are waking up to it, though. I mean,
Starting point is 01:06:12 I tell everyone that on the ballot in 2024, we have Joe Biden with tyranny and poverty, or you can have freedom and prosperity with President Trump. Yeah. But I also wonder if it's enough of an anecdote, like being awake to it and actually changing the way you live and the way you approach your life. Is it enough to turn the tides? I don't know. I really don't know that answer because I don't know if there's enough people who would be willing to do that. And unfortunately, there's a lot of conservative teachers out there who are afraid to speak, not just teachers on a lot of these, but they're afraid to speak out, though. And I tell everyone, look, you know, what happened to myself and everyone else involved in January 6th specifically, they were using us as examples to
Starting point is 01:06:52 put fear into the American people. And I think we have to remember that our rights do not come from the government. Our rights come from God, our Creator, and the Constitution was written to prevent the government from infringing on our natural God-given rights. And so if we willingly give up our free speech out of fear, we've already already lost this battle and we're in a battle right now for the future of this country let me jump to the story from scnr.com pro-biden super pack to spend one million dollars on tiktok influencers the pack may have already violated some of tiktok's policies you know we got enough problems as it is with tiktok and and all that. And now, quote, the effort is part of a larger Democratic strategy to lure young voters into battleground states who are in battleground states who polls show are increasingly critical of Biden, whether over his age or issues like his stance towards Israel. Biden's reelection campaign itself is amping up its work with social media influencers in 2024, though those partnerships are currently unpaid.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Daniel Wessel a biden campaign spokesperson told politico the white house team separately is also flexing its creator game throwing its first ever influencer christmas party last december so there's this guy who made a video where he was his tiktok he's got 400 000 followers and he just yells so he's always complaining about something and he yells and he's complaining about the economy he recently made a video where he said he was contacted by someone claiming to be in the democratic party who offered him fifty thousand dollars for a pro-biden post wow and post one post wow and he said as somebody who sells shout outs and reads like fifty fifty thousand dollars is a lot of money for a single post right so the powers that be are ready to drop i would assume more than one million dollars on getting people to claim biden's the right
Starting point is 01:08:35 choice i remember back in 2016 there were a lot of high profile uh personalities on youtube that for some reason were just in favor of joe b we're like, why? But here we go. I'm wondering what the Republicans have to counter this. I was wondering that too. That was my first question is, what is the RNC spending on social media influencers? And if you look back at Biden's history in office and his campaign, he's been spending money on influencers this whole time. I remember distinctly jen sake
Starting point is 01:09:05 had a whole round table of influencers come into the white house to tell them all to promote the ukraine war um you know i i forget who there was reporting on that from the washington post i think it was actually taylor lorenz covered that we also had remember the the the guy in the white suit with no shirt yeah which i don't understand a suit with no shirt. Like that dry cleaning bill has got to really be insane. But he was out there with his fingernails and his cell phone, you know, boosting the White House. You've had over the, remember that guy?
Starting point is 01:09:36 He was the worst guy. He was ridiculous. He was doing like a day in the life of the, you know, intern at the White House or whatever. And then over the summer you had, was it not this past summer And then over the summer, you had, was it not this past summer, but the previous summer,
Starting point is 01:09:49 you had Biden brought in a whole bunch of social media influencers to tell him why it's important to have child sex changes and all kinds of stuff like that. You had Dylan Mulvaney in the White House doing that. Is that the one where the dude took his shirt off
Starting point is 01:09:58 and was like on the White House lawn? Is that the one? No, that was June Pride this year. Oh, okay. And it wasn't a dude. No, it was. It was a was a dude oh i thought you were talking about there was it was there was males and females there were males and females the females had no breasts and the men had large ones yeah okay so uh here's a question for you if a pro trump super pack came to us and said we want to give you a hundred thousand dollars to promote us and do a read. Should we accept that?
Starting point is 01:10:26 I don't think we should because, number one, we're all actually different entities. And so it would be confusing to see our individual opinions away from the brand. And I also think that ultimately, at least for me- Well, it has nothing to do with like, should the show accept a sponsorship that's a political sponsorship supporting a candidate if they were to pay us a lot of money? Should I do it like, hey, this episode's brought to you by TrumpIsTheBest.com? You'd lose credibility. Yeah, I think it makes you look biased. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Even if there's full disclosure? I mean, it's Tim's show, ultimately, so if that's what you wanted to do, that's fair. But if we were operating like the editorial board of a newsroom, then I wouldn't want to do it. I also don't like when editorial boards... I know, that's what I'm saying. I also don't like when editorial boards endorse candidates. I think that there isroom. I know, that's what I'm saying. I also don't like when editorial boards endorse candidates.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I think that there is a level of... Is SCNR going to endorse? I don't know. I don't think so. I mean, that's up to Chris and Cassandra. I don't think Postmillennial is going to do it. Yeah, it's up to Chris and Cassandra. I don't know why we would.
Starting point is 01:11:17 It's up to Chris and Cassandra because they're the editors. It's weird that newsrooms endorse candidates. I don't understand it. I think it's super weird. I don't like it either. So my question then is for you, Libby. Yeah. candidates i think it's super weird i don't like it either so my question then is for for you libby yeah personally or organizationally would you accept uh fifty thousand to a hundred thousand dollars in in support of from a pack to support a candidate to support a candidate well like no
Starting point is 01:11:35 but i would accept we want to add dollars we want a post that makes insert candidate looks good uh oh like sponsored content well however however a pack would pay for an influencer to promote like you make a post saying hey this is me this person's advertorial on the post millennial or human events or something i don't think so i would take ad dollars if you wanted to buy ads like for your political campaign i would probably take ad dollars for that i think that would be fine i don't know that i would be in favor of doing an advertorial. I'm not crazy about sponsored posts. It's even more shady when it's like a TikTok post. It's tricking people to look like it's organic
Starting point is 01:12:12 and it's not organic and they're paid. I think that's a bit more shady. Here's the bigger risk. I'll tell you the one reason why I would not accept it because the rules around political advertising are intense and that's a nightmare to navigate well and then you'd have to take anybody's political advertising not necessarily isn't that what the isn't that what the tv stations had to do uh i i it depends on the structure of how
Starting point is 01:12:34 your ads are done if you don't have the inventory you can't sell the inventory we're so far past tv if i own but a single roll of toilet paper and a democrat wants to buy it and a republican wants to buy it only one of them is getting it but the bigger issue is not a single roll of toilet paper and a Democrat wants to buy it and a Republican wants to buy it, only one of them is getting it. But the bigger issue is not- If I had a single roll of toilet paper, I wouldn't sell it. The issue is not the issue of, is it appropriate? I think you end up running into the problem of Democrats have no issue whatsoever taking money from powerful political organizations to make fake content. And then people on the right are like, well, you know, I think that's wrong.
Starting point is 01:13:01 We shouldn't do it. And so I'm just like, yeah, there's an issue of that. We have we have we have limits on this show of what we're willing to accept in terms of sponsorship. We've had people try to buy their way onto the show. We never allow people to come on the show in exchange for money that is not allowed. And but I recognize the challenge of so long as people on the right who are opposing the establishment reject this standing on their moral high ground, the Democrats will keep having the advantage because they have no struples. It's one of the things that actually works against us as conservatives is, you know, we wonder how do they always get these people out into these big frenzy, out into these big mobs or whatever. It's because Democrats are a group mentality.
Starting point is 01:13:41 It's easier to herd them into one certain thing, whereas conservatives, we're just like, I just want to be left alone. Just want to live my life, want to raise my family, start a business. And in this aspect, it's kind of used against us. Yeah, I think that's similar. I think the acceptance for individual difference, it's much higher among conservative communities than it is on the left, which is sort of the inverse of what they market, right? They say we're we're tolerant we're accepting but we're actually not uh we expect you to fall in line and we expect you to be okay with the things that we're okay with and i think that's sort of the big lie that they have sold a lot of generations and a lot of really misguided people who feel anxiety within themselves they don't feel comfortable with who they are and so they
Starting point is 01:14:20 think i'll just run to whoever's accepting but i have to earn that acceptance by complying completely and totally with their worldview. And that's very different, especially from, you know, every every variation of a conservative community. I personally experience. That's interesting. Yeah, it's weird. I mean, I think it is the big Democrats and I don't see Democrats left leaning causes, whether it's Democrat or just different organizations have always done a really good job of getting out ahead of messages and spinning them. And I think this is something that Republicans struggle with. In this case, like talking about endorsements or whatever else,
Starting point is 01:14:51 I think ultimately I have to live with myself. And I would rather try to find another way to tackle the advantage than to just do what they're doing. Because again, I have to live with myself at the end of the day. Well, and back to your point of the left like they will accept you until you step out of line and the perfect example of that is the people who were transitioning they sung their praises and were like oh and then once we wanted to detransition because they're like wait a second I made a mistake they're like the left attack these people I mean it's weird if they were taller wouldn't they just be like yeah everyone has a different experience exactly gender journey or whatever one of the most frustrating things for me uh is daily wire uh posted a video on x it's ben shapir debating destiny and ben defines woke and ben is wrong in the majority of his definition what did he say he defines woke as this this idea ideology rooted in post-modernism he gives a long definition but he basically says it's about power structures it's about you know those who in power tend to be bad and i'm paraphrasing rather poorly but he basically gives this idea ideological woke is you know post-modernism with a racial component and then gender ideology it's totally wrong wokeness means
Starting point is 01:16:03 adherence to the social orthodoxy of dominant institutions. That's it. That explains why. So the issue is, for someone like Ben, I can understand why he would say it this way.
Starting point is 01:16:14 He's a politico, political junkie. So he's looking at all the highest level things and wokeness is identifiable in its root form. The average person who says woke does not mean any of that because they don't understand what that is. And so they'll refer to a woke person because they're flying the Ukraine flag or something in their profile picture.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Why is it that there's an overlap between those support critical race theory, gender ideology and supporting war in Ukraine? Perhaps the argument can be made that because Russia is the power and Ukraine is weaker, therefore Russia is bad. Well, that doesn't really make sense because the U.S. is funding Ukraine to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. In fact, supporting Ukraine is supporting Western imperialism and hegemony. So why would they support going to war against Russia for Russia's border dispute? We in the West are the dominant power because all that really matters is woke is a reference to when someone adheres to the social orthodoxy of the dominant institutions.
Starting point is 01:17:10 And it's amorphous. Sometimes it's woke. Sometimes, like sometimes it's, see I woke in the esoteric sense. Sometimes it's post-modernist, critical race theory, gender ideology. Sometimes it's absolutely not. And everyone falls in line.
Starting point is 01:17:24 The best way to understand this is how the left uses a Mott and Bailey tactic. If the left was truly, if woke truly was postmodernism, there would be no Mott and Bailey. They'd quite literally say, here's our argument. Have a nice day. But they don't. They change their argument to a civil libertarian argument when threatened, showing there is no actual ideology here. It is simply just we are a group that is in line with each other.
Starting point is 01:17:47 We look for others who are wearing the same color clothing. And as so long as we do that and we are up to date on the latest fashion, we are aligned. That's what woke is. I describe it as a bunch of birds flying in the sky, flooding in a random, flooding, flying in random directions. They occupy a very specific space. You can see them. Oh, they're over the lake.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Yes, they have this weird leftist postmodernist thing to them, but they're really flying around and they can move at a moment's notice. So I tweeted a picture of something called an ant mill. You guys have heard of this? No. Ants, when they walk, they leave pheromone trails to signal to other ants
Starting point is 01:18:22 where they went, what they're doing. They come back with food and they can follow that line. So you notice this in your kitchen, the line of ants. An ant mill is when the ants get turned around and form a circle. What happens is they follow pheromones in a circle forever until they starve to death. What? It's called a march of death as well. March of death, a death circle in a mill.
Starting point is 01:18:40 So they'll just walk in a circle until they... Wow. Because they can't see the big picture. They're a tiny ant, and to them, they're just following the middle. So they'll just walk in a circle until they... Wow. Because they can't see the big picture. Yeah. They're a tiny ant and to them, they're just following the path and the path is one big circle
Starting point is 01:18:50 and they're all following each other and more and more keep funneling in until they eventually just starve to death or dehydration and die. That's wokeness.
Starting point is 01:18:58 You join the circle. They're all following each other. You say, what is the ideology they hold? Whatever the ideology of the person in front of them holds. It could be anything.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Well, it's a shifting sand. That's why Wemixin is offensive today, but not offensive tomorrow. It's why women with a Y is offensive today, not tomorrow. Because postmodernism is just a current component of the cult ant mill ideology. And it can become imperialist Western hegemony at a moment's notice yeah so one day they're saying power structures are bad the next day they're like we support nato expansionist on the russian border what flash it's whiplash yeah between that and the conspiracy theories and it's because i i think very strongly that the the leftist ideology is a shifting sand you
Starting point is 01:19:41 wherever you put your foot down now it's not the same as it's going to be soon. And they always act like there has been no change, but it's actually not aligned on any moral foundation. And I think that's a big difference. Like conservatism as an idea is on a moral foundation. There you go. That's what it looks like. Army ants trapped in a death circle,
Starting point is 01:20:02 all just spinning around confused. Sometimes they can break out of it usually they don't someone actually posted the video you can see it right here let's see if we can uh pull this one up they just walk in a circle this is this is how i view wokeness i've i've often described it as this whirlpool that spins faster and faster some people get ejected from it because it's been so fast they wake up and they realize how bad things are but for people who are saying things like woke is post-modernist ideology and that's what we mean by woke and yeah you might but the average person sees this going on and so if one day someone is claiming like hassan piker is a
Starting point is 01:20:37 really great example of this because he made a video where i had defended something he had said about mr beast mr beast was providing cataract surgeries and hassan said it's it's ridiculous that we're cheering this on when we could be doing this instead we're wasting all this you know we waste money we don't have health care i said hassan is correct it is silly that mr beast is effectively a game show curing people's cataract blindness and i was like meanwhile, meanwhile, we're sending $100 billion to Ukraine. Hassan responded by insulting me and mocking me for criticizing the money being sent to Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:21:12 This is the perfect example. A man who's like, why aren't we giving people cataract surgery? Also send $100 billion to Ukraine. There is no moral pathway or ideology. He's just saying whatever is socially acceptable within the dominant institutions, running in a circle until they eventually and here's here's here's eventually here's the harsh part they abort their kids yep yep they more likely to are to sterilize
Starting point is 01:21:34 their kids they advocate for things that result in self-harm and death and so i view wokeness quite literally as a death spiral where over a long enough period of time, these people and their ideas will cease to exist. It's crazy. I mean, it collapses in on itself, really. Some of it to me with this, I mean, how does this occur, this death march? Some of it I think is the language. Simple and it turns. No, no.
Starting point is 01:22:00 What I mean is like among woke people is I think some of it is the language that used there like when you respond to Hassan yes so don't send money to Ukraine he knows he's supposed to be in support of Ukraine and so that's something he can't argue with right so he has to be like well you're wrong it's these sort of terms that they're like like when you heard uh you know the Israel Palestine conflict this whichever side gets described as colonizer that's where a lot of young progressives will line up behind because they know the colonizer is always wrong no matter what and it becomes this very uh routine way of handling things and again it eliminates all critical thinking yeah but except when it's the west doing the colonizing they're against it's
Starting point is 01:22:38 because they're told what to think instead of being taught how to think for themselves this is what's really funny about it the u.s supports israel israel is engaged in a conflict with hamas in gaza and the left is on the side of palestine and gaza the west then also funds ukraine and nato expansionist policies onto the russian border so these people not all of them but many of them like hassan goes off on israel but defends ukraine yeah it's weird which which u.s imperial hegemonistic policy are you opposed to today hassan it goes back and forth i guess whatever the mockingbird media told them to to say that's just that's what we call no i think it's whatever his commenters told him yeah and so all the people start spamming him and it's whatever his commenters told him to say yeah and so all the people start spamming him and it's probably it's his bots it's it's like sock puppets what you'll get is one guy running 50 accounts
Starting point is 01:23:31 he'll respond to someone and say this thing good this thing bad this thing good and then these people who are susceptible to it read their comments oh you know what i gotta tell you i talked about the vaping thing the other day how How it really frustrates me. What would frustrate you about vaping? We can't have vaping in here for legal reasons. Okay. Legally, most laws look at vaping and smoking as the exact same. So there's no distinction. And so we have signs saying no vaping.
Starting point is 01:23:56 People come in here and they'll do it anyway. Oh, that's rude. Oh, it's crazy. The craziest thing is when I'm driving in a car with someone and they just blast vape in the car. And I was like, I'm going to kick you out. So anyway, I was pointing it out. And I lost my train of thought. What were we just talking about before you asked me?
Starting point is 01:24:11 You were talking about how you were talking about vaping the other day. No, before that. We're talking about... Oh gosh, what were we talking about? We all missed it. I'm sorry. Because I mentioned that you asked me about it. Then I had to describe it.
Starting point is 01:24:22 We need a court reporter to read back the notes. No, I forgot. Lost my train of thought. It's over. Conversation is done. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Because I mentioned it and you asked me about it and then I had to describe it. We need a court reporter to read back the notes. No, I forgot. Right? Lost my train of thought. It's over. Conversation is done. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 01:24:30 But I'm sure it was a good point. I was interested in it. No, I think all of this comes back to like- I was just trying to understand the point fully and I screwed everything up. Okay. Tim was talking about people responding to Hassan saying this thing good, this thing bad. Right. And then, nope.
Starting point is 01:24:43 I don't know if we're going to get there. I can't remember. Well, you were talking about vaping the other nope. I don't know if we're going to get there. I can't remember. Well, you were talking about vaping the other day. We were talking about vaping the other day. Did you as a middle school teacher have to deal with kids vaping? Oh yeah. I mean, absolutely. It's unbelievable. Honestly, anyone who's, who's in to teaching for the correct reasons, it is a very difficult job. I mean, it really is. It's really sad. It's one of the reasons I left. I've been in real estate for seven or eight years now, which is amazing.
Starting point is 01:25:09 What made you want to do it in the first place, though? So, I mean, I wanted to coach football and be involved and wanted to have the same schedule as my kids and wanted to kind of give back to my community. I mean, that was really the thinking behind it at the time. And you get in there and then you realize it's just a bunch of paperwork. It's just a bunch of – I saw the woke stuff, the liberal ideology coming down, and I'm not a very quiet person. I already knew this was not going to end very well for me. And so I wanted to get
Starting point is 01:25:35 out of that. And then obviously the pay sucks. And so nobody goes into it for the pay. But really, I think the biggest issue is once again, is they have they've weaponized um the the young educators coming out of college and through indoctrination like that's truly it's a scary thing they really believe it's their job to overstep their parents yeah go ahead let's go the frustrating thing is when people come on this show and they just read the comments the whole time and then they start saying and thinking insane things. And we have to warn people, do not read the comments. Like the chat's fine. What about chat or super chats? I'm saying we put up clips.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Don't read the comments. Don't waste your time. Okay. You are not ready for this. Some people are ready for this. You are not ready for this. And then what happens is I watch people's brains shatter. Not everyone is capable of handling the internet.
Starting point is 01:26:29 And so I think, you know, so, you know, I'm probably going to start on Twitter. Just only verified accounts can respond to me at this point. It's a waste of time because of the sock puppets. And I think a lot of the DeSantis supporters are sock puppet accounts because they all have like a cartoon character with a fake name. No, no history until the DeSantis thing. And then they all say the same things right on cue. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:26:53 this is one guy who's got, who's just switching accounts or something stupid. It's not legitimate, but switch to, you know, on Twitter, I'll switch to just verified only. And then I know that these people have actually paid for an account at the very least harder to sock up at that but there are a lot
Starting point is 01:27:06 of people who don't realize they'll come on this show and they'll be like here's what i think then i'll hear from one of their raps or you know one of their employees or them later on and they'll be like everybody was really mad about insert issue and i'll be like were they were they or was it like a handful of people who spammed the comment and out of the 1000 comments that we received, you read 30 of them and then you think that's public sentiment. Yeah. So that's what happens to people like Hassan. He'll be talking online. People will start spamming his chat and he'll be like, I agree with whatever they're saying because it makes me money.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Interesting. Yeah. I'm with you. I only read the verified comments because I mean, I get so many people from the left specifically who just hate me because of mainly january 6th and and you know where i stand on a lot of these issues but i don't even waste my time reading through those because it's it would take forever to do that and most of them are probably fake so i don't pay it's probably not real uh if you were to go to look um national harbor in over in dc big ferris wheel a bunch of restaurants i go there it's dc urban
Starting point is 01:28:07 liberal and people are like oh man i'm a big fan of the show if you were to believe what these people are spamming on twitter i couldn't go to these places everybody hates me yeah i go to pittsburgh i it was it was crazy i've never been recognized more in my life but pittsburgh is antifa town what do you mean they want you to that. So we had a show several years ago in, was it Pittman, New Jersey? Two weeks before the show, Antifa threatened to burn the theater down. I remember this. I was there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:33 And the guy who runs theater was like, I can't, I can't. I'm terrified. I canceled your contract. Despite saying he could handle Ann Coulter and the protests are meaningless. And then I think like 12 people showed up to protest. Yeah. That's all I guess. Yep.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Yeah, I mean, the fear is how they keep certain people compliant, right? I mean, I've known other organizations that have had cancels contract over and over again because there is a possibility maybe that someone bad show up. But, you know, you are from the community that you represented. And when you went through January 6th, how do people react to you? My community loves me for it, honestly. The support is amazing. And I tell everyone the fear of being canceled in a lot of ways is worse than being canceled. So I can't get a banking account at most major banks.
Starting point is 01:29:14 You can't get a bank either? Major banks, I cannot. You've been debanked, basically? Yep. Can't get a credit card at a major bank. Can't get a loan. Any of those things. I'm considered domestic terrorist by this administration.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Can't travel freely in this country. But you know what what once again we our rights do not come from the government our rights come from god we have natural god-given rights and so we can't give that up out of fear of what's going to happen to us and that's what's taking place in our country did you see that yuval harari clip did you guys see that it was a clip of yuval harari doing a ted talk talking about how uh human rights are just a fiction we came up with and they don't really exist. And I thought, I don't... He's right. Yeah. He's right. But I mean, you could say lots of things are made up. Right. But I don't agree that natural rights are a fiction. I believe that they were God-given. I mean, in the sense that humans at the bare minimum
Starting point is 01:30:03 have come to realize some things are good and some things are bad and we've agreed upon those things and we consider it evil to do those things but if we don't maintain like to break those things if we don't maintain that perspective then we'll be in a completely amoral society which is kind of where we're heading we are we have i mean we have smuggling humans right we also have the Biden administration, the incumbent president, his main policy platform right now is killing babies. Yeah. That's so wacky. Natural rights and human rights interchangeably.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Because I feel like. Maybe they're not the same thing. I feel like they're not the same thing. Because so many things. I was listening to it and I was thinking they were the same thing. Oh, see, I think of human rights like I think of the Constitution, the rights that we're given by God separately. And I think of like everyone's guaranteed water as, the rights that we were given by God separately. And I think of like, uh, everyone's guaranteed, uh, water as a human right. Everyone's guaranteed medical care.
Starting point is 01:30:49 It's like when people use that sort of expansive terminology for human rights, which we hear all the time, that's sort of what I think that is applying to, but maybe I'm misinterpreting. If he says human rights are something, are a fiction we've made up. Yeah. Like healthcare being a human right. Exactly. Yeah. That's a made up. Yeah, like healthcare being a human right, exactly. Yeah, that's a made up thing. So when I look at God-given rights,
Starting point is 01:31:07 I think of like the things that exist in reality, like you can speak. Yes. And you can defend yourself. Yes. Things like that. Yeah. Well, I was talking about it on Twitter
Starting point is 01:31:16 and someone was like, you know, imagination must be made up because we can't envision, we can't see that either. We imagined imagination. We imagined imagination. That must be efficient. But it really goes back to the, once again, our youth have been taught, and I would argue indoctrinated, into believing that our rights come from the government.
Starting point is 01:31:34 They look to the government when they think it's the government's role to protect them, to feed them, to clothe them, to house them, to keep them safe. That's not the government's role. It's not. That's our role as individuals and leaders of our families, as men, to do those things. And right now, people are being trained to look to the government
Starting point is 01:31:53 for all of their answers. And that's a scary place to be. That's definitely what they're trying to do. They're trying to make you want to go to the government because everything is such chaos. You go towards the government and they become the organization. They become the saving grace.
Starting point is 01:32:04 It's an old Mao thing. It's what Mao would do all the time. He did it constantly. If you look through his reign in China, he would do things where he essentially would create chaos. So chaos, so discord. And then be this, already have a plan in place for how he's going to suddenly come back and save everybody and be this shining light and just be this amazing figure. It's amazing. Well, what's the old saying?
Starting point is 01:32:25 I'm from the government. I'm here to help is like the worst thing you could ever hear. Right, right, right. You know, and then you think about it. So many times as Americans specifically, we give up freedoms all in the name of safety. So look at that Patriot Act right now is being weaponized against all of us.
Starting point is 01:32:39 But at the time, the Americans were cheering it on. People were saying, yeah, we need the Patriot Act because I don't feel safe. I protested the Patriot Act. I did as well. But so many people were like, Patriot Act because I don't feel safe. I protested the Patriot Act. Because I did as well. But so many people were like, we need that because I don't feel safe. The government needs to keep me safe. Out of fear.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Out of fear. Biden ran on safety in 2020. Exactly. You mentioned men leading their families. Why do you think there are so many men who don't want to lead their families? Well, this all started back under the attack on the nuclear family, which is under attack in this country. And if you remember, I don't know, probably 10 years ago was the toxic masculinity. And that's what they first started stripping down.
Starting point is 01:33:11 They started stripping that down and made it toxic to be masculine and made it toxic to want to be a provider and a protector of your family. And so then when they stripped that down, now they can go into, well, men can be women because if there's no difference, why can't men be women and women be men? So we all talk about this transgender issue right now. In my opinion, it all started originally with the attack on quote unquote toxic masculinity, but that's what it comes down to. Do you think that men have masculinity modeled to them in a way that they can then recreate later? Because I almost wonder if that's some of the issue. Well, I mean, it is part of the issue. Once again, the nuclear family has been under attack for decades in this family. So there's a lot of young men, especially growing up without any sort of male role model in their life, whether that's a father, a grandfather, an uncle, or a coach of some sort. They just, they don't have
Starting point is 01:33:57 that. And there's a lot of studies that's been showing too, when you put a male educator in an elementary school, how much it really impacts the young boys in that environment because you don't see that very often, especially the ones who don't have a male role model at home. And so I think that once again, we've got to get back to there's nothing toxic about wanting to look. We have a generation and a society full of weak men right now. That's what a lot of this culture stuff in our world is as a result of weak men, because our grandparents' generation, who were strong men, they would never stand by and allow this attack on our women. Do you think my grandparents' generation would stand by and allow men to go change with their daughters in school and participate against them in sports? There's no way that they would allow this to happen. We have a society full of weak men. I completely agree, and weak men make hard times yep but we will uh we will talk more about this
Starting point is 01:34:49 in the members only uncensored show so smash that like button subscribe to this channel share this with your friends go to timcast.com click join us members only uncensored show is coming up in about a half an hour but for now we will read your super chats so let's see here youtube's been giving us the business for the past couple of days all right christopher lambert says burp unfortunately councilman robert suppenbach says first no burp was first so you you didn't get it you didn't get that one hard defeat there that's very upsetting all right in the next super chat we have token black guy who says hey tim will the republicans ever grow a pair they won't but the republicans will be replaced by men who do have some so there you go i'm in disguise says my conspiracy theory they're getting people used to living in pods and eating disgusting things bugs so that when
Starting point is 01:35:35 we start flying in space we're already used to that stuff yeah i like the the wild conspiracy theory that all of life is actually a training pod. We are on a colony ship headed to Alpha Centauri. Once your life ends, you wake up as a young child with the full knowledge of a human life. And that's how they train people for the new human colonies. That would be cool. That's a cool movie. They should make a movie out of that.
Starting point is 01:36:02 I love that. You know why? Because then you get another chance. But guess what? To be alive. i would just want to live forever hold on so you have this large colony ship flying from earth to colonize a new planet in alpha centauri or wherever humans are created in in pods and then put into a simulation program to develop into natural humans understanding the full culture and technology of earth when they left because if they were raised on this sterile spaceship they would be
Starting point is 01:36:32 weird dejected people they need social experience however you need to sort some of these people will be bad evil murderous people some of them be good. So as these people are being trained and when they come to the end of their lives and they die, the system will then judge them. You in this training program did horrible, awful things. Eject.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Launches them out into space. Oh, terrible. You are a good person who lived a good moral life and we want you to be a part of the greater society in the new colony. Your pod opens up and you wake up and you're like seven years old and you're like this is the weirdest thing ever that would be weird and it's like but now you have lived a full adult life and you are
Starting point is 01:37:12 a functioning well-attuned person are there really people who believe this like this is like a real thing or is this you making this up on the i'm just making it okay this is pretty good it's like the craziest uh rose ceremony in the bachelor of all time. You get to stay. Who wants to make the movie? You get a card. I mean, you did a great job making that up on the fly. I mean, it sounded like it was something you... Oh, I've talked about something similar before,
Starting point is 01:37:31 but we'll make a movie about it. All right. Let's grab some more. Wrath of Paul says, Sean Strickland had originally won the fight, but then ended up losing to Dricus Du Plessis after additional punches were discovered at 3 a.m. the next morning.
Starting point is 01:37:47 That's right. Yeah, they actually said, we're going to stop the judge count and we'll come back tomorrow. And then in the middle of the night, people were rushing in boxes of takedowns and strikes that the judges then used. And I hear Giuliani has video of that.
Starting point is 01:38:02 That's right. Ian Kinney says, Tim, if you think the samsung ai is wild you should listen to the malay speech in english rendered using hey gen in his own voice i've seen it and it makes his lips move in english you know the future is is broken i don't know man you know that idea i had about the spaceship going to the column going to uh colonize a planet was because i was thinking if it takes 100 years to travel or 200 years human beings growing up on a spaceship would be maladjusted broken people who would not be able to colonize how do you program a human to understand life on earth work and all of these things so that when they arrive on that planet they're ready for this
Starting point is 01:38:45 they you know you could freeze them cryogenic storage or whatever cryogenic storage and then they wake up that's how sci-fi typically does it i'm like i like my idea better yeah i like your idea everyone's in a simulation i think that's really fun yeah you're basically being trained that would be is that that would be a really good video game. Ooh, interesting. And then what would the conflict be that the AI, the algorithm breaks and some bad people emerge and the colonies split into two factions? I think the conflict would be avoiding fascism in the simulation just like it is right now. It's space Lord of the Flies. Right. There you go.
Starting point is 01:39:20 Yeah. Right on. All right. Acure says Trump a Swami 2024. The polling's looking good for Vivek as VP, but we'll see. He doesn't have the experience. I don't know. Neither did Trump.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Trump had no experience. That's true. No executive experience. And also the VP job. I know I say this all the time, but nobody does anything in that job ever since Adams. Nobody has done anything in that job. So if Vivek comes in and has no experience and doesn't know what the job of VP is, he's going to do a way better job than all the VPs. He would raise the bar and actually make it so they have to do something.
Starting point is 01:39:58 I think it's about time the VP actually became a real job. Well, Harris had experience and she's in charge of the border right now. We sell that. But she's a tiebreaker in the Senate. That's her whole job. Yeah yeah she's effectively a senator the only other argument that i've heard is that this vp might be a big deal depending on you know trump's legal cases and everything else there's there's a possibility that this vp has to take over at some point i don't know how accurate that is with biden and his total deranged brain that he's not facing the same legal pressure that no uh but i agree it'd
Starting point is 01:40:25 be cool to have someone who actually makes it interesting and so that the next time there's a vp that person is like well now i can't just do nothing i don't think the people other than kamala harris who become vp want to do nothing i think it's just that there's sort of traditionally nothing for them to do but if someone breaks that tradition someone breaks that tradition someone perhaps with no experience and no executive office. Well, in Trump right now, people I think are looking and saying the VP's got to be the person who takes over after President Trump. And I don't think that necessarily has to be the case. And I'll just be honest with you. I don't care who he picks as VP. I'm voting for
Starting point is 01:40:57 President Trump in 2024. I don't care who he picks as VP. Well, the question too is, is there anybody he could pick for VP that would get people who aren't going to vote for him to vote that's the question i feel like there's not that many people who have just an open mind in this country when it comes to our political leaders at this point is there a person you know who's not voting for trump who could be swayed or who's not voting for biden who could be swayed based on the vp no based yeah based on the vp at this point i don't think that would really have any impact. It's kind of like a band that doesn't need an opening act anymore. Well, the more likely scenario or outcome there would be to try to find someone who could potentially deliver one of these swing states.
Starting point is 01:41:36 Maybe someone from one of the swing states who has a, I don't know, I'm just throwing stuff out there to your point. But that would probably be the more likely situation there is finding someone who could deliver a swing state and kind of take that off the the board there to where they could focus in other areas and i think in some ways people are expecting the vp to set the tone of where the maga movement will go after like maybe even if it isn't who runs in 2028 it's just sort of an indication of who trump sees as a potential uh figurehead or a leader of the movement forward. And so in some ways, I think you're right. It's not that it'll sway voters, but I think it does internally have some psychological impact
Starting point is 01:42:12 on people who already support Trump. It should be someone who can be on the campaign trail independently. Well, and someone who can be trusted, someone who's going to be loyal and not stab President Trump or the MAGA supporters in the back when they get a chance and opportunity to do so. That's the key thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:26 And that's sort of what we saw with DeSantis. Like, DeSantis kept essentially being not very nice to the Trump voters. Yep. Yeah. Saying like, yeah, I don't need your vote and whatever. Let's read some more. Paul Barnes says, I have a structured settlement and I need cash now. Does anyone know the number?
Starting point is 01:42:42 877- Cars for Kids? No. Cars for Kids? Need cash now, yeah. J number eight seven seven uh cars for kids no cash now yeah jg wentworth eight seven seven cash now everybody knows that it's the most effective commercial yeah it is cars for kids if you have a structured settlement and you need cash now jg wentworth that's just the best commercial. They nailed it. Everyone's on the bus singing. There's a guy in the Viking costume or whatever. It's a commercial.
Starting point is 01:43:08 That and the weird chinchilla thing screaming about eating sub sandwiches. That's my favorite. Some commercials you'll never forget. That was amazing. I think all campaigns should take a leave out of the Quiznos book. Well, I mean, that's what we're doing with Cast Brew. We had Alex Stein try to free base coffee. We just told Alex Stein to figure it out.
Starting point is 01:43:27 And he did. And it was fun. He did freebase the coffee? No. Do not freebase coffee. You cannot. But he had the spoon and he's lighting it. He's like, this isn't working.
Starting point is 01:43:37 It's the world we live in. You have to put a disclaimer out there to not freebase coffee. Did he just put the coffee in and nothing else? He what? He just put the coffee in the commercial. You should watch the commercial. He ended up drinking the coffee. I'm going to spoil it for you. I do.
Starting point is 01:43:48 I should watch the commercial. I haven't seen it. Mark Jr. says, Tim, what do you think of a Trump RFK ticket? Keep Trump votes and take away votes from Biden. How would you feel about it? I was more in favor of it a while ago. Not so much now because RFK has gone weird
Starting point is 01:44:01 and everyone's kind of like, what the heck happened to this guy? And it might have, maybe it's Epstein related stuff because like, wasn't he on the plane or something like that and i oh see i always thought it was just that eventually he wants to end up back in the good graces of the dnc that's why he left being independent anyways he wants to what he wants ultimately he wants the dnc support well i mean he's pretty far left on a lot of issues such as you know the climate change stuff stuff and anti-gun stuff.
Starting point is 01:44:26 I mean, that's where he really aligns is with the left. All right. Barely a Millennial says, if Texas were to secede, is there any path for other red states like Indiana to join them or will have to move to Texas? I'm half joking. I think the border states would align on some kind of regional defense plan for the southern border. So California would not. But Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, maybe even. Oklahoma, Micah, with them?
Starting point is 01:44:56 Yeah. Yeah, because it's spilling up. Florida probably would. The other Gulf southern states may just because of location but uh i'm not saying i see i'm saying pact like regional defense pact where they defy the federal government and say we don't care what you're doing but we're doing this thing the the question now is will joe biden order the federal government to use force to stop texas national guard if they don't it's going to be real interesting what other states start doing
Starting point is 01:45:25 well i mean the left-leaning states the liberal states have defied uh federal law before in terms of like the sanctuary cities years ago before we got to this point so but all they do with sanctuary cities is not cooperate with federal law enforcement so you know i think it was dc drano who said the ruling from supreme Supreme Court could be good. They're saying federal supremacy on immigration. Yeah, that's like California sanctuary state. All that means is if ICE shows up, they just put their hands up and say, we're not helping you out. Yeah. So ICE is completely different.
Starting point is 01:45:54 So this is totally different because they're basically saying we're going to prevent you from removing these barriers at the Texas border. Right. Absolutely different. So the feds would have to go in and use force to stop Texas from obstructing them. And if they don't, it's almost as bad as if they do. If they do go in, Texas has a choice to make, fight the feds or don't. I think they should already be arresting them. I hope the people in Texas and the leadership in Texas realizes there are a lot of patriots out here in smaller states who don't have the ability, like West Virginia doesn't have the resources that Texas does, you know, on that level to do this that we are cheering them on right now and watching them and they are really setting the tone uh from that standpoint if the
Starting point is 01:46:33 federal government does not take action after this ruling it shows the federal government is impotent and unable to enforce its own claims of jurisdiction yeah what kind of action could they take the feds yeah i mean at this point they have their border guards down there and texas is reinstalling the razor no no their border guards are pushed out of the jurisdiction right they're not in the eagle pass area they're asserting it and texas says good luck the feds would have to forcibly enter defying texas's national guard and the troopers texas would then have to make a choice use force to to repel federal forces coming into the border i would love to see some
Starting point is 01:47:15 constitutional stuff on this from a sheriff's standpoint as well could some of these texas sheriffs have authority to go in and arrest some of these people as well do they actually have real authority to do that i mean i've heard that they do i don't know but that's something i would love to see someone who's smarter than me out there watching who could look that up and this is this research this is wild because uh i i read this story a long time ago i was reading about gun rights and stuff like 20 years ago and there were two guys in texas or something and uh i've told the story on the show before but i'll go through it quick. Guy rear-ends the other guy.
Starting point is 01:47:48 The guy who gets rear-ended is pissed. He's armed. Guy who rear-ended him, it was an accident, was armed. The guy gets out of the car, starts screaming and yelling about being rear-ended. The guy who did the rear-ending gets out of the car, says, calm down, it was an accident. He notices the guy's got a gun. So the guy gets out of his car and sees this guy was an accident he notices the guy's got a gun so the
Starting point is 01:48:05 guy gets out of his car and sees this guy screaming at him and he's open carry so he puts his hand on his hip and puts his hand up the guy who's screaming sees a guy reaching for his gun so he draws his gun puts it low the guy in the back car sees him draw the gun so he pulls his out and brings it to high ready the other guy sees him drawing on aiming at him, shoots him. And so that's how the situation was described. The rapid escalation of, you know, some guy gets out screaming at you and you see he's got a gun. He puts his hand on his hip and holds his hand up,
Starting point is 01:48:34 but the other guy sees him reaching for a weapon and it just, it dramatically escalates to that point. The fear is, I mean, it may be that a Texas national guardsman, let's say, I don't know, 19 years old, does not, none of these people want to fight the feds. But what happens when it's three in the morning, some CBP guys, maybe plainclothes even, they're walking down, there's no National Guard that they see, and they're like, we're going to survey and see what's going on. Abbott said he's putting up razor wire. We're going to go look to see how much is put up and then report back to our guys as to what's going on.
Starting point is 01:49:09 Young National Guard guy sees silhouettes moving towards him and says, don't move. These guys say, like, who is this? We're not even doing anything. But like, who are you? Don't tell me what to do. And then it could be as simple as a young guardsman or trooper does not even know feds are approaching raises a weapon and says back up now they say no they draw they see a guy with a rifle they draw their weapon they say back you know on the ground they're both yelling on the
Starting point is 01:49:35 ground at each other drop the weapon drop the weapon and then bang yeah and then it's possible in a situation like that they i mean if a situation like that happens it's gonna in a situation like that. They, I mean, if a situation like that happens, it's going to be a shootout. Maybe things calm down after the fact, but it might not even be that Texas marches forward saying we hereby are going to fight feds. It could literally just be a rapid escalation. It could be one, like you ever see the video of the ATF agent getting arrested? Yeah. He goes to the house to take a shotgun and then the cops arrest him it could literally just be that an atf or i'm sorry a cbp guy is walking to the border and he goes to talk to them and they're like drop the weapon drop the weapon back the back the f up now and he's like i am a federal agent you are you are not i'm gonna do this to me and then he dies right well people
Starting point is 01:50:25 are also forgetting that and when it comes to texas i mean their economy is is larger than a lot of countries i mean they have they could secede if they wanted to and actually sustain themselves unlike a lot of other states i mean they they have a grid they control their grid yeah i mean they got full control of a lot of that and so i mean they could do that And I wonder how much that's going to play into effect of the federal government wanting to push this issue against Texas, knowing that they have the resources and the infrastructure and everything to withdraw if they wanted to do that. And it's actively on the minds of the citizens. Yeah, it is. Absolutely. This is a ballot question next year.
Starting point is 01:50:59 I mean, this is, it would be a terrible game of chicken. It really would. Saddle F-ing Tramp says, this leaked audio is straight out of a Gr game of chicken. It really would. Saddle effing tramp says the leaked. This leaked audio is straight out of a Grissom or Clancy novel. Is this real life? It's nuts. I'm not sure I have enough popcorn for this ish show. My friends, if you haven't and you have the ability to do so, listen to the full 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:51:18 I mean, at three, around three minutes and 45 seconds. He says, what if they steal the election again? Again, this is a guy who's like very powerful people want you to drop out of the race we're gonna we're gonna find a way to pay you money listen what if they steal the election again so at the very least some people are saying oh this this proves election was stolen no no no it proves that very powerful individuals who are pulling the strings strings behind the scenes believe it was correct yeah so whatever you're hearing in media at fox news this is an establishment guy saying we don't want you to run so this is someone who doesn't like trump rhino establishment republican they
Starting point is 01:51:56 think the election was stolen despite you know fox news and other corporate you know conservatives being like no no no perhaps the news is in on it yeah perhaps perhaps the news is it mega mikey says we talk about occam's razor regarding the simplest solutions is the correct one but this isn't that there's another phrase that's very relevant to this leaked audio and politics the truth is often stranger than fiction it's not so much that the simple solution tends to be correct it's that the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions tends to be correct and that makes a bit more sense when you think about it conspiracy cleaning says carrie lake's daughter had her brakes fail in her car shortly after this look it up she's talked about it before so what this is like at some point last year, her daughter's brakes failed? Carrie Lake tweeted, my brakes are working and I'm not suicidal.
Starting point is 01:52:49 Yeah, that was in July of last year. Didn't she mention this as well? I don't know. Did she mention? Mention that her daughter's brakes? No, mention that she was offered a bribe to get out of the rain. She did. She has mentioned this.
Starting point is 01:53:03 This is the first time the audio came out so she has mentioned the story before people told her that she was like people were like ah she's lying yeah yeah or exaggerating or whatever and then you hear this and it's like i don't think she did it justice in terms of telling just how chilling this conversation really was she kind of downplayed it if anything when you actually hear the audio if she said a prominent republican came to me and offered me a lucrative, do-nothing job to bow out of politics and take the cash, and I told him to publicly expose these people,
Starting point is 01:53:32 and he responded he would be killed if he did, she didn't say that. And the funny thing is, when I first saw the story popping up, I listened to the audio. The first thing I see is I see the audio, I listen to it, and I go, holy crap, this guy says he'll be car bombed.
Starting point is 01:53:46 Then I Google search it to look at all the various sources in their take. None of them are mentioning that this guy thought he would be assassinated if he was found out to have exposed to this. I will say this. The luckiest thing for him right now is that the audio was released. Yeah. Agreed. Because now that he's in the recording saying my car will blow up, it's less likely to happen. Because you never know with the Epstein stuff.
Starting point is 01:54:09 I mean, come on. They might just be like, well, you know. Yikes. All right, let's grab some more super chats. What do we got here? Let's see. Matthew Schneider says, Trump 2024 beat Nikki Hillary. Go ultra Maga.
Starting point is 01:54:26 Kama ga ma ga. I used AI a long time ago and I told it to render Super Saiyan Trump and it made an anime version of Trump with Spike. Oh yeah, I remember that. And so we made a t-shirt that says Kama ga ma ga instead of Kamehameha for those that know Dragon Ball Z.
Starting point is 01:54:40 It's hilarious. Esoteric anime fan. I don't know. Millennial guys know what Dragon ball z is nicky hillary dragon ball z was like all the rage for at least part of my child most popular show in the world all right jake says tim the term you are looking for to describe democrats as machiavellian totalitarians i mean that works That's interesting. I'll take it. Yeah. What have we here? We'll grab some more.
Starting point is 01:55:08 Brian Rich says, hi, Tim. Operation Chaos was Rush Limbaugh telling Republicans to switch to Democrats in 2008 and vote for Hillary to draw draw out primary with Obama. Go Trump. Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. I think that's that's that's scumbaggery. But I get it. It's a big, dirty game of politics. Not a fan. everyone's going to try
Starting point is 01:55:27 and exploit everybody else to steal power it's brutal we just need we need a better culture we need uh honor and integrity too many weak men in this country amen to that bill hughes says what if biden federalizes the texas national guard uh out of the control of texas they've already discussed doing that if they declared that it may actually be the fastest path towards civil war so we're concerned about how it could be that texas and cbp end up in a confrontation that national guard and cbp are fighting no idea i don't see a reason for cbp to go and confront an armed guardsman i don't see a reason for the guard to go and confront an armed guardsman. I don't see a reason for the guard to go up to the CBP guys and fight them. The CBP has already been expelled. However, if Biden declares all of those armed national guardsmen now work for him, they're going to be like, no, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:56:18 And that's when things will get really wild. Imagine if some of the guardsmen say, OK okay not every guardsman is going to be a republican that's gonna get real crazy yeah i don't like it andrew goodman says please get carrie lake back on irl asap we would always love to have carrie lake back on irl and uh we will see what we can do i liked when she was here i don't remember uh when it was but brett dasvik who does pop culture crisis said he walked into a room and she was there and the way she greeted him was like as if she was like a suburban mom welcoming her into his home like she just has so much like warmth and everything and he's like i work here like this
Starting point is 01:56:58 is where i am she's welcoming me to like our space but it was very nice that's very sweet it was such a great description all right vilhans brazil says what if that was all ai done by lake and the democrats to make the republicans look evil and the only one that people can elect is lake because they couldn't buy her off i was thinking about it the fear that it's deep fake stuff but the conversation is too complicated for it to be AI. And apparently news outlets have reached out to others and confirmed that it's him speaking. So, you know, you never know, man.
Starting point is 01:57:31 What if the AI is taken over and is doing all of this? Carrie Lake was kidnapped months ago and there's a robot that has taken her place. She has to come on IRL and prove that she's not kidnapped. She's just on that ship. guys want to know she's just on that ship you want to know the scariest sentari soon the scariest scenario in ai i remember several
Starting point is 01:57:51 years ago people on twitter were google searching photos and videos of armored vehicles military operations then they were all hashtagging some fake city whoa i can't believe this is happening look at this here's another video. What's going on? And so everyone's in on the joke. Find a random clip of military action and make it seem like there's a mass mobilization occurring. And some people fell for it.
Starting point is 01:58:15 What would happen if a fake political candidate was created using deepfake technology? Wow. People start seeing speeches. I mean, let's be honest. I have not seen Donald Trump in the flesh in nine years. I went to a lot of his rallies,
Starting point is 01:58:34 so I saw him speak many times. No, nine years is not correct. When was the last time I saw him? I saw him in the flesh in December, if that helps. Yeah, I saw him recently as well. I saw him at the White House Social Media Summit. I don't remember the last time I saw him in the flesh in December, if that helps. Yeah, I saw him recently as well. I saw him at the White House Social Media Summit. I don't remember the last time I saw him physically in person. My point is this.
Starting point is 01:58:51 To everybody who's listening right now, they've probably not seen him in the flesh since the last rally, if they even went to one. The average person probably has never seen him in the flesh. For all you know, Trump is an AI-generated guy, and it's all fake, or Joe Biden or whatever. Joe Biden's more believable with all the glitches. Oh, yeah. That's what it is. But imagine in the future. I shook Trump's hand like two years ago.
Starting point is 01:59:12 Oh, there you go. That's a long time ago now. It was a long time ago. That's where we're headed with AI, though. That's really scary to think about that. I was reading an article. I don't get on there, but I read an article. One of the top OnlyF, topic creators is an AI.
Starting point is 01:59:26 It's like AI girlfriend. Yeah. It's not a real person. It's weird. It's crazy. I think that this AI generated politician is another brilliant film idea. Grim Wolf says, Tim always forgets about the Bundy ranch standoff.
Starting point is 01:59:39 No, I don't. We had M and Bundy on the show to, to break it all down for us. But I'm not sure I understand the difference between a small faction of guys fighting with the Bureau of Land Management versus an entire state sending its armed National Guard to strip the jurisdiction from federal agents. Those are very different things. A very large state with a lot of resources and a lot of money. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:02 I mean, what is Texas? The second largest or third largest? Second, right? Yeah, I think so. Behind Alaska. No. Is California? Really?
Starting point is 02:00:11 Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I don't know. I could be wrong. You mean landmass? Yeah, yeah. It might even not be as... I mean, what is it like? California, Texas, New York?
Starting point is 02:00:17 I thought California was... Alaska is the largest. Oh, right, right, right. Yes. Alaska, California, Texas? What is... Alaska, Texas, California, Montana, and New Mexico. Wow.
Starting point is 02:00:26 Texas is second biggest. Yowza. They have a lot of cows, too. They have a lot of beef to you. They say wars are fought on a soldier's belly. So you've got all those cows everywhere, man. Yeah, but nobody knows what to do with cows, though. What do you mean?
Starting point is 02:00:42 Texas ranchers do. They're doing a lot. Ranchers do. I got some built on. No, the ranchers do. No, I was just imagining soldiers being like, there's a cow do with cows, though. What do you mean? Texas ranchers do. They're doing a lot. Ranchers do. I got some built on. No, the ranchers do. No, I was just, I'm like imagining soldiers being like, there's a cow, I'll eat it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:51 Yeah. Have you seen that show? It was like 1870, what is it? 1874. 1881 or whatever. 1884. 1884. 1884.
Starting point is 02:00:59 No. Why can we not remember this? 1884. Yeah. Isn't there a scene where they're like, I guess we have to eat the horses? Yeah. Absolutely. People in West Virginia know what to do with that.
Starting point is 02:01:08 Oh, they did that during the revolution too. Those people in Texas would know what to do. Yeah. I don't know. People in New York. People in New York City. 1883. Yeah, it's a spin-off of Yellowstone.
Starting point is 02:01:15 I don't know how to do anything. It's a problem. Upstate New York would be okay. I'm a huge John Dutton fan. I think he's a great guy for shutting down Montana to the outside people. That's a bummer. They're canceling that show though. I know. I'm really mad about it. I would he's a great guy for shutting down Montana to the outside people. That's a bummer. They're canceling that show, though.
Starting point is 02:01:26 I'm really mad about it. I want to see Beth one time in person just go off in Washington, D.C. What did they call Dutton? A hicklib? Maybe. Yeah, I think Jack Pesceba was calling that. Alright, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends,
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