Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #947 Trump Calls For States To Deploy National Guard To TX Against Federal Government

Episode Date: January 26, 2024

Tim, Libby, Phil, & Serge join Jesse Kelly for a spicy episode of Timcast IRL in which they discuss Trump calling on states to send their National Guard troops to help assist Texas with the border crisis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In a post on Truth Social, Donald Trump has called on states to deploy their National Guard to Texas to assist in the removal of illegal immigrants. This would be in direct defiance of the federal government's orders to Texas. The federal government has given Texas till tomorrow to back their National Guard off and allow the Border Patrol agents to resume their human smuggling operations. Texas has said no. Their AG Ken Paxton said they will not be. In fact, they've escalated things, now calling on private citizens to assist in the barricading of the border

to prevent illegal immigrants from crossing into this country, providing free razor wire to private citizens. That's as far as we've gotten there, but it is the beginning. With Donald Trump calling on the deploying of the National Guard to various states, man, I can't believe I typed that headline out. And everyone's trying to play it lightly. I don't think anyone wants to actually believe what this means. But the frontrunner for the 2024 presidential election is telling these states, there are now around 30 states that have vocalized their support for Texas.

Some of these states have actually deployed National Guard to Texas and personnel. And I believe we have 25 signatures on a letter in support of Texas. And you have the front runner for the presidency saying, send your National Guard down now. What's the federal government going to do tomorrow when the deadline is up?

And Texas says no. Part of me wants to believe nothing is going to happen. And I imagine a lot of people are assuming the same thing. Nothing's going to happen. And I imagine a lot of people are assuming the same thing. Nothing's going to happen. The Biden administration's all talk, all bark, no bite. They're going to file paperwork.

The Supreme Court did not order Texas to do anything. So Democrats are now escalating their calls that the Biden administration federalized the Texas National Guard, claiming that they're in insurrection or rebellion. That's one of the criteria by which the federal government could nationalize, federalize the National Guard. I suppose Joe Biden could declare an insurrection in Texas, attempt to federalize the National Guard, invoking the Insurrection Act, and then claiming Donald Trump by advocating that these states

who have deployed support, vocalized support, by saying they should deploy National Guard, he could say Trump is an act of insurrection. We got a lot to talk about with this one. This is a big story. Of course, there's a lot of other news today that we may get to. There's a lot going down with what's happening in Texas. Probably one of the most important stories of our lives, one of the most important stories in the history of this country.

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I am Jesse Kelly. I'm a world-famous author. I wrote one book, and actually it did do pretty I am Jesse Kelly. I'm a world-famous author. I wrote one book. And actually, it did do pretty well. But no, I'm a radio host. I host the Jesse Kelly Show, nationally syndicated all across the country. And I have a TV show on the first TV every night on 9 p.m. Eastern time, Monday through Friday. So that's who I am. Well, thanks for joining us.

It's going to be a lot of fun. We've got Phil Labonte hanging out. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I am the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I am an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

Libby. Hey, Phil. Hey, Jesse. Hey, Tim. Thanks for having me on tonight. I'm Libby Emmons. I'm the editor with the Post Millennial.

Glad to be here. And I am Serge Duprius, also known as Serge.com. I'm ready to go when you are, guys. You're falling apart down there. Here's a story from Mediaite. Trump calls on states

to deploy National Guard to Texas as state clashes with federal government over border crisis. There's a lot to break down here, but I will jump straight to Trump's statement. His first portion of the statement.

When I was president, we had the most secure border in history. Joe Biden has surrendered our border and is aiding and abetting a massive invasion of millions of illegal migrants into the United States. Instead of fighting to protect our country from this onslaught, Biden is unbelievably fighting to tie the hands of Governor Abbott and the state of Texas so that the invasion continues unchecked. In the face of this

national security, public safety and public health catastrophe, Texas has rightly invoked the invasion clause of the Constitution and must be given full support to repel the invasion. Page two. We encourage all willing states to deploy their guards to Texas to prevent the entry of illegals and to remove them back across the border. All Americans should support the common sense measures by Texas authorities to protect the safety, security, and sovereignty of Texas and of the American people. When I am president on day one, instead of fighting Texas, I will work hand in hand with Governor Abbott and other border states to stop the invasion, seal the border, and rapidly begin the largest domestic deportation operation in history.

Those Biden has let in should not get comfortable because they will be going home. Now, the big news here is that we actually have, the number is much bigger than this, but there is a report 25 states, Republican governors of 25 states have signed a letter backing Texas. Now, the number is actually larger than this by now, but things are changing so rapidly. It's hard to know exactly how many states have already joined in. And needless to say. Look, guys, I can't believe this is the headline we're writing. Obviously, everyone's trying to be a little light on how they describe this. Media is just saying

Trump calls on states to deploy National Guard as the state clashes with the federal government. But Trump's entire statement is how Joe Biden and the federal government is aiding and abetting illegal immigrants by calling on the National Guard of willing states to deploy to Texas. He is calling for these states to act in absolute defiance of federal authority at a time when the Biden administration has given a deadline to Texas. Friday is the day you must back off your guards or else the question then becomes or else what? I have a million thoughts on these as do you. We were all talking about this off the air. And so the thoughts i could

go on and on about it but let's be clear joe biden is committing treason and he didn't just start committing treason biden and his administration when you take over as president and you defy the immigration law when it's your job as president to execute the law that is treasonous they didn't fall they didn't stumble they didn't bumble they didn't fail they didn't whoopsie the communists who now run this country got elected and opened up the border on purpose because it is the ultimate win for them that republicans cannot and will not reverse but flood the country with illegals you destroy the country and that's what they want but it it's sedition, I would argue, not treason. Treason would be aiding and abetting an enemy, whereas this is just actively trying to destroy the country.

They are enemies. They are our enemies, and our country is being filled by our enemies. Chinese, Russian, many others, they're filling. But there are some. If an invading force from China marched through Mexico and Biden facilitated their invasion, that's arguably treason. But legally, the question that becomes, are we actively at war with China? Because that's basically what treason is. It's when you side with the enemy. A bunch of random people from a bunch of random countries coming to this country, Biden facilitating that, I would say, is a seditious conspiracy, basically seeking to undermine our system of governance, destroying it from within. Well, look, we can split hairs about sedition or treason it doesn't really matter he committed a

crime as president of the united states of america this is a crime a crime that actually should not result in impeachment it should result in impeachment and joe biden spending the rest of his life whatever that length that may be in federal prison and if we were interested in saving this country joe biden and many people in his administration would be in federal prison. And if we were interested in saving this country, Joe Biden and many people in his administration would be going to prison. Sadly, we're more than three years into the Biden presidency and we're just now getting some kind of real effort to bind against this.

Now that we're 8 million illegals heavier in the country, that's on top of the what 30 million million were already here, but they did this on purpose. That's the most, that's the thing that people have such a hard time digesting, especially the norms and normas out there. This wasn't an accident. And the media will play that up. They'll even call these people migrants all day long.

Now that's the newest thing. We've got to make them sound like geese going south for the winter when they're not at all. They're illegals. They're all criminals. The men are the criminals. The women are the criminals. the children are criminals behind them and they should all be thrown out of the country immediately the legal term is criminal alien well you call them whatever

you want they're criminals the academic term and well so this is why you get uh you get nicki haley saying oh they're not criminals no no this is a legal term i'm not saying that to disrespect anybody is a legal term they are criminal aliens one of them. And every one of them violated our national sovereignty. And we have so poisoned patriotism in this country that now everyone on the left and half the people on the right somehow think we're supposed to be America's open sewer. And we're not supposed to be the world's open sewer where you just dump everyone you want. No. We are a sovereign country with a culture. We are a unique people.

We're not a melting pot we're not it's not multiculturalism we have a unique culture in this country that is wonderful and should be preserved and protected i'm glad we finally have somebody doing something about it and i applaud the governors we'll see if they can actually hold out but at least someone's doing something so we have people asking us to break down sedition versus treason. So I will. Cornell Law School defines, I should say, they don't define,

they show us the actual U.S. Code, 18 U.S. Code 2384, seditious conspiracy. If two or more persons in any state or territory or any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States conspire to overthrow, put down,

or to destroy by force the government, destroy by force the government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the government, destroy by force the government of the United States or to levy war against them or to oppose by force the authority thereof or by force to prevent, hinder or delay the execution of any law of the United States or by force to seize, take or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof. They shall each be fined under this title or in prison, not more than 20 years or both. Treason specifically is whoever owing allegiance to the United States levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere is guilty of treason and shall suffer death or shall be

imprisoned not less than five years. And that's a big gap right there and founded this title. So I would argue specifically the Biden administration is engaged in a seditious conspiracy. They are committing crimes against the country to damage and destroy the fabric of this country in violation of numerous state laws, as well as federal laws, whereas treason would be declaring war against the United, adhering to war against the United States. So typically when this has been debated in the past, treason has been typically applied to, if we were like, let's say the formation of the Marines, the Barbary pirates, if someone in the United states sided with the pirates that's treason you're a traitor a traitor is siding with the enemy in active conflict sedition means joe biden and his buddies got together and said

let's engage in a plan that subverts the law and destroys this country by force let it be sedition i i believe it's seditious conspiracy that's look all that's fine with me convict him of shoplifting for all i care just send him to prison whatever it's fine whatever he's doing as president and look we all know we're not talking about joe biden we're not talking about the cadaver who's pretending to be president we're talking about the filthy commies that he surrounds himself with this is all susan rice and victoria nunez and all the other maoists who actually occupy positions of power well look joe biden's got to go but they got to go with him. They can all share a cell. I'm talking about the CBP agents.

I could give a crap about Susan Rice. The Nazi guards. The Nazi guards on the border who are engaged in a human smuggling operation with a badge on their chest that says CBP, they're the ones who should be in prison. Are you serious? Absolutely 100%.

For following orders and doing their job? Are we going to let the Nazi guards go? You think the people who are facilitating one of the largest human smuggling operations this world has ever seen should be just, oh, it's not your fault, it's some other guy's fault for telling you to commit the crime? No, I think that's ridiculous. I think you're crazy. You ask a CBP agent to

rob a bank and he does, you think he shouldn't go to jail? The CBP agents are retiring. They're quitting. They're getting out because of all this stuff. And they should. And they definitely should. These men are doing good things so the guys the guys so so the guys on video who are smuggling children and engaging human trafficking they should go to prison oh that's fine yeah those are cbp agents 100 that's fine yes if you're going to take the dirty ones and look let's be honest the the border and i have many friends on border patrol border patrol agents

have always been i don't want to say susceptible but they've been in a unique position to be corruptible because of the amount of money that crosses the border because of the drugs and human smuggling I mean I have many close friends in there whose friends are in federal prison now why they were busted taking bribes from the cartel bribes of money bribes of women things like that that's really common that kind of bribery at the border of border guards? Oh, they'll send you. There are places, many, many places across our southern border. Pick your place.

Pick a place in Arizona where the Border Patrol is stretched so thin, you'll have a little stretch of border where there's one dude, maybe two dudes, man in the post, cartel guys run a couple high-end hookers up there for a night. You enjoy yourself. Next thing you know, you turn the other way for two hours and they've got the people across they want to get across. Now, this is not all of them by any stretch of the imagination,

but it happens. And yeah, you can send those guys to prison with Biden. But listen, those are also guys. Who is most responsible for the atrocities in history? Yeah, the NKVD sucked. Yeah, it was really bad.

Throw them all in prison. They weren't given the orders, right? It was Stalin. When you have evil people in charge giving orders to open up the border then those are the people who have to be punished the most severe in any society but doesn't a man owe something to his own heart and soul like don't you owe yours to yourself to follow a moral code oh for sure and so if you don't like you're evil too you're evil too if you're standing there at Auschwitz just like letting people so like no question about it but you're not the height of evil you're evil too. You're evil too. If you're standing there at Auschwitz, just like letting people in. So like,

no question about it, but you're not the height of evil. You're not the one. I don't know. You're a monster. You have it totally backwards. The homeless guy in the alley screaming for people

to smuggle humans across the border is nothing. He's meaningless and no one cares and he would never be charged with anything. You're allowed to stand in an alley and order people to do everything. They won't do it. But if a man,

if a homeless man in an alley looks to a police officer and says you should go in there and rob a bank and the cop goes you got it who do we arrest do we arrest the homeless guy no we arrest the guy who robbed the bank you know who never we who we never arrest in this country politicians that's who we never arrest border patrol agents get arrested dirty cops dirty dirty cops get arrested politicians never go to prison in this country. FBI agents never go to prison in this country. CIA never goes to prison in this country. We definitely had. They are now.

What about Mary and Mary and all those guys in Chicago? FBI and CIA. What I'm saying is people in positions of power in this country never, ever, ever go to prison. In fact, they don't even fear going to prison. We had an FBI agent lie on a document to get a fisa warrant so he could spy on donald trump he didn't even get disbarred kevin klein smith didn't even get disbarred that human being should never see the light of day again ever politicians didn't even get disbarred and the people who are giving the orders should also go to prison but the most culpable element of the human

smuggling operation are the human smugglers absolutely not absolutely not the american not the human smugglers the american president is more responsible for human smuggling than the human smugglers cartel is less responsible for human smuggling than biden than joe biden himself because joe biden is the one inviting them in joe biden is the leader in the well forget about joe biden we're talking about the biden administration the united states federal government is the most criminal government in the western hemisphere all you're arguing is that you like some human smugglers and not others. No, that's not what I'm arguing at all. So the show was unfortunately taken down.

And I'll make something clear for everybody who always says the exact same thing every single time. Why don't you stream on Rumble? Because, my friends, well, there's business reasons, but Rumble has the exact same rule as YouTube pertaining to calls for extreme violence. That's it. I've spoken directly with the people who run Rumble.

If someone does a live show on Rumble and says in some way or another that people should be killed, Rumble also says also says yes we will take those things down i gotta be honest man i kind of agree with rosanne at this point i don't know if there will be an election yeah i find that to be really quite a quite a scary concept it's something that we've been hearing about for a while right you have the democrats saying if trump gets into office he's never going to leave office and this will be the end of democracy. You have, you know, on the Trump side, on the GOP side, you have people saying this, you know, this is essential for democracy, that we don't let Biden stay in office, that we don't let the Democrats stay in office because they're using essentially lawfare to destroy citizens' lives, to go after Trump. Who knows what else they could do? They're lying all the time. So everybody thinks on both sides that democracy is literally at stake. And what that probably means is democracy is probably at stake to a certain, if everybody, if all of the enemies are agreeing on what the situation is, then we probably have a

problem. I think that, I think you're right. People look at it like, like democracies at stake. But I think that, and I've said that, I was saying something like this last night, like looking at it,

like it's a democracy is part of our problem. Like the fact that the, that the political parties are fighting over power and it's become a zero-sum game, if you don't control the government, the government is going to come after you and people with your politics. That's been made pretty clear to conservatives now. Well, yeah. And Democrats expect too much of government. Well, I think they do. Yeah.

And also, I think they're the ones that are screaming about what the republicans might do if they get in charge of the government while they're my lefty friends you know is like i i think i think it's only fair that i don't take the heat for what you said jesse and i'm not trying to be a dick but i'm getting people attacking my character now for having had to take the show down because you made two illusions to killing people so i'm not trying to be a dick right now but like i've got 500 messages of like what the fuck are you doing why are you taking the showdown are you fucking with us you're trying to make money so i thought youtube took the showdown no i had to take the showdown i had to take the showdown because you made two illusions within like the span of a couple minutes to murdering people okay after i explicitly stated in the

pre-show do not make allusions to violence then went on to explain we keep having people come here and saying they want people killed or people should kill people or they can be killed or things like that 18 minutes into the show you had made two allusions to one was the helicopter thrown off the pacific ocean that's kind of like a fuck we're gonna get we're gonna get hit for that probably but you know we'll see what happens but then you said you can go kill the human smugglers for all i care and it's just like that's it like it's not it's not a youtube thing it's rumble would take us down for this i've had the conversations with rumble about it and so it's a question of for the people who are

right now who are slamming me claiming that it's a big news day and i intentionally took the show down for fake reasons to make money what no matter what platform we're on that show would be removed and we would face legal liability and so the question is can we have a show if we persist that show would be deleted and that would be the end of it okay so all i can do is say okay well that well, that's it. You know, like I tried. We take it down. That's all I can do, I suppose. And so now I get all the flack for it. It's not a fun job. It's the best job in the world.

I mean, I could just host my morning show where it's just me and it makes a million bucks a year and not have to worry about any anybody coming in i have to worry about employees dumping bacon grease down my drains and clogging up our septic system i don't have to worry about getting swatted 15 times and getting death threats all the time and then having people accusing me of trying to rip them off to make money because people come on the show and like don't respect the space or whatever like man it is it is stressful we i was just talking about how people come in here and they just vape despite we like uh it's it's wild dude it's it's absolutely fucking wild like we have to spend tens of

thousands of dollars every week to cover travel and accommodation and then we get people who come out here and they just like they just don't care about anything we do and i'm not saying you or it's just like it builds up on you and then when you are forced to make that difficult decision it's all my fault so i'm like shit man i had a conversation with this uh prominent industry professional you know a year ago and i was like dude when i was just doing my morning show i was a millionaire working six hours a day playing video games going out for pizza doing a morning podcast that was like number 50 in the world and then we were like let's do more let's take on let's take on the world let's fucking build culture let's do another show

let's go to fucking war. And now all of that money that comes in pays for employees, pays for a building, pays for infrastructure, pays for cool shit. Everyone who's a member, like my salary that I get paid just comes from the morning show for the most part. I say for the most part because there's profit. I'm not going to act like there's not profit, but the amount of money that we generate from memberships and from all the ad reads that i do does not go to my salary at all so i quite literally could just stop timcast.com stop timcast irl and all of it and i'm making the same amount of money and so i absorb all of this stress because i don't know i'm pissed off at these cocksuckers and people like joe biden who are doing all this

fucked up shit and burning everything to the ground. But man, it is just so brutal some days. And then you get shit like this where it's like the country is melting down around us or maybe it's all for show. Maybe it's fake bullshit. Maybe the Texas National Guard is only fucking around to put on a show to make it seem like they're actually doing something so that people in this country don't rip their heads off. I mean, Brian Kemp certainly didn't do anything to oppose the Biden administration when they're fucking doing something so that people in this country don't rip their heads off i mean brian camp certainly didn't do anything to oppose the biden uh administration when they're fucking around with the elections so why would we trust him now that's the problem pretending to do something can end up doing something right i mean that look at i've said i i think that this is going to end up with a deal of some kind i think someone's going to make a deal to save face but there is a chance that it's

not because joe biden cannot be seen to back off this is a human being in serious trouble with the base of his party they want him out texas red states whatever these governors they can't be seen to back off either so if nobody can be seen to back off it might might go bad. I don't think it will. I think they'll all work it out in the end. But it could go really bad. It certainly could. It could go bad, yeah. It could.

There was a tweet that I saw of someone, a mutual tweeted, and he said something to the effect of, don't think that just because things are theater, they can't turn into reality in an instant. And that's exactly what happens. Things, people think that this is just theater or people think things are just talking until someone throws the first punch. And once the first punch is thrown, you don't know what's going to happen from then on out. And I mean, it's just look at the way that World War I went down. You know, nobody expected that killing Franz Ferdinand would turn into World War I, which arguably turned into World War II.

You know? Well, it's funny you brought up World War I, Phil. I was just about to bring up the same thing, and that this is not equivalent to World War I, at least obviously we hope. But you look at all the end carnage, and so you go back to the beginning and think, well, why couldn't it stop?

Okay, a guy got assassinated. That's really, really bad. Someone should step in right about here and calm things down but nobody calmed things down they looked to russia and they said hey help and russia said sure we'll help and then germany steps in and said okay well if you're gonna help then we're gonna help and if you're gonna help then we're gonna help i i i i want to be clear i don't think it's going to get there, mainly because I think the GOP governors, I think they'll back off at some point in time. Right now it's popular, but things are popular until they become unpopular, until someone gets hurt. What if someone gets hurt? I mean, that's the crazy thing is Trump just called for escalation.

That is really wild. It's just really wild. And you could also look at it, I mean, if you wanna be cynical, right? If you wanna be the devil's advocate here, you could look at it as a massive conflagration would only help him rise to power in this situation. It could potentially secure the election

because it would mean that Joe Biden has absolutely no control over the country, can't control the border, can't control the populace. And we're, you know, we're embarking rather quickly upon riot season. Yeah. I mean, we're not only that, but like this is something that we haven't touched on yet. But like if the U.S. we talked about last night, if the U.S. is in internal turmoil and chaos, the rest of the world becomes far more dangerous which you've talked about multiple times about taiwan and about ukraine and about about uh you know any number of places in the world that could could you know start off some kind of additional conflict and again this comes back to the like you were saying

the way that world war one started it was well these guys decided they were going to back these guys well these guys decided they were going to back these guys. And as people just start taking sides, then you have, you know, what turns into a what turns into after the fact, after it's already going, you look back and you're like, holy shit, that was the whole world is on fire. Now, isn't that something that we keep thinking about, too? I mean, I know that that's something I've talked about with Tim on this show and other guests. It's like.

What is the moment that we're all going to look back at and say it was that moment if something crazy happens, you know, if we are veering headlong into total catastrophe. And of course, everyone in history, all generations want to believe that they are living at the apex of history, that, you know, Jesus is about to come back right now, that the world is going to end right now. You everyone wants that to happen and now in our era when you have what is it like 63 percent of americans don't have any religious belief at all you know i think of those yeah it was a pew research poll we looked at it today at the post-millennial i i i take i don't think that they don't actually have religion but they'll tell you that they don't have religion so they talk about you know they're spiritual or whatever

which i think is crap yeah so okay it's funny you mentioned that because that's almost exactly what red yard talked about on his most recent video uh what's his name yeah right yeah and it was 51 percent of that 63 are men and the majority of the 63% of Americans, no, it's 30% of Americans say that they have no religious belief or affiliation. 30%, I correct myself. 63%, yeah, 63% of that group are white and 51% of the total group are men. So it's pretty interesting.

Well, there's something going on in the western world right now and i talk about this all the time it is the biggest overarching story in the world by a mile it trumps every other story the biggest story in the world is western governments turning against their own people west they all people have made it easy to do so because the people have no foundation well the people are broken are broken. That's what it comes down to. When your cultural institutions become poisonous, as ours are, when you have poisonous, disgusting cultural institutions, we can't trust the CDC anymore.

What? When you have poisonous institutions, then eventually the people become poison, and then they're disillusioned with their government. They're disillusioned with everything. The government wants to whip the people back in line, which is what we have these evil commie pieces of trash now. And so instead of their guns outward, they turn inward. Here in America, we see it all the time. I try to explain to people, you look at what the United States government has done in the past. You mentioned

World War I, World War II, war on terror. What happened the united states security apparatus military intelligence and otherwise found a national enemy and they aimed their guns at them and what happened a lot of damage was done a lot of people were killed it was a really really ugly thing but what you see now is the federal government it's not just ours western governments they turn they have turned their guns inward it is It is not a small thing. He's an idiot and he's old, so people dismiss it. It is not a small thing that the United States president routinely gets up and demonizes the supporters of the other guy. Politicians have always called each other trash and he's evil and he's a pedophile.

They've always said that stuff. But never, never never before barack obama he only did it a little too before obama never have politicians in this country looked at the supporters of the other guy and said threat to democracy threat to democracy destroy the country what about what about i always write what it's called but what about john adams remember and there were people speaking out against him and he passed that doofy act and it really cost him. The Alien and Sedition Act?

Yeah, that one. Yeah. Well, I don't think that- Wasn't that like directed at his opposition essentially? You know? Yes and no. It was more of a yes and no. It was nothing like this today.

It was nothing like pointing towards- No, but- You can isolate, they've isolated a subgroup all time is the Smiths, right? Which is this old band from the 80s and whatever, lead singer Morrissey, lead guitarist Johnny Marr. And the other day, Trump played Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want at his rally in New Hampshire. Johnny Marr heard that this had happened. And he went off on Twitter like, absolutely, you can't play my song at your rally, you horrible person.

And I was just like, you guys are literally my favorite. I thought it was cool that Please Please, these are old songs, they play them in the elevators and the grocery stores at this point. You can play it at the Trump rally. It's not that big a deal.

Trump licenses a bunch of my stuff. But I was just like, why does the guitarist for my favorite band hate me? Like, why is that the thing? I love you guys. Well, I mean, the thing is, it is about ideology, right? So I made a remark earlier about how I don't think that they don't have a religion. And Serge was mentioning What If Alt-Hist, this guy, Rutger, who has a YouTube channel.

And he talks about, at the end of the last the last i think last third of his most recent video he talks about the the the i guess the the left today or whatever you want to call them they're essentially a an esoteric religion they follow an esoteric religion like gnosticism so they're they're and there's it's not its own religion it kind of is like a parasite so that's why you see things like how like the church gets infiltrated and even though it's not really the church anymore it does all the things the church did and looks kind of like the church but it doesn't really have the church stuff in because this foreign religion, it behaves like a parasite and it latches on to all sorts of movements from the left.

But that's how the church has been corrupted. And that is the means of transmission of essentially the current parasitic philosophy or ideology it's it's a lot like it's a lot like a a political ideology but it's not it's actually like a it's there's a theology but back or attached to it yeah it's like things i don't think it's enough to secure a country i don't know it secured the soviet union not so great for 70 years i mean not like it was it was awesome for those 70 years. 70 years, like, okay, we're a young country, but we're not that young.

No, we're not, thankfully. But I mean, the thing is, and Jesse talks about this too, like this is all an attempt at a cultural revolution in the U.S. And there's no more arguing about it. Like when I first started saying that, I got it from, I'm not sure if he said it before me, but him and Lindsay were saying saying it and i was like they're absolutely right do you guys think it started with the civil rights movement no it started before that i it started with the so for one it started with the soviets remember the soviets brought communism here on purpose they tried to infiltrate the

teachers unions and the workers unions right off the bat and they could yeah i watched the first 20 minutes of oppenheimer yeah oh i didn't know i'm joking around no i haven't seen it yet but but but they couldn't get traction there the whole first half of the 24 of the last century was like the the socialists trying to get into every country and then they shifted because they couldn't yeah look it's always the religion of the malcontent that's what communism is it's the religion of the malcontent that's what communism is it's the religion of the malcontent that's why it's taken a different form in cambodia it looked different than it did in china in china it looked different than it did and so in the soviet union soviet union was the

urban poor china was the rural poor here we didn't have those groups being malcontented we had different groups so they regrouped and they started identifying the malcontents in a society and that's yeah that's right that's why now everything's a pride flag and everything's they didn't infiltrate the civil rights movement in the 70s of course they did that was ripe for them herbert mark hughes said in in one i think it was in one dimensional man herbert mark hughes said that the revolutionary energy now lives, doesn't live with the working class anymore. It lives in the ghettos with the minorities. He literally,

and the gays, and that's where the radical revolutionary energy was. So in the 50s, they stopped trying to use the working class and the unions as the energy for the revolution,

and they changed it to identity. And they've been wildly successful and where we're at now the reason we're in such a pickle now it's not that we have radical communists in society we've had that you know for years for decades here in this country it's that they have risen from the street corner and they've seized the institutions that was the problem you know some some hippie commie on the on the street corner in the 60s yes it's not great it's not the end of the world when he becomes the president of harvard university it now has become a very very very big deal because now the leadership of your society

is filtered through the dirty jockstrap of communism that's why our president sucks it's like i heard an interview with camille paglia and jordan peterson several years ago that i thought was absolutely fascinating and um paglia was saying uh you know they were talking about the infiltration of the universities which of course peterson was very familiar with compelled speech and everything at u of t and um at toronto and uh paglia was saying you know the real revolutionaries didn't actually go into academia. They went off and started communes and went living in the woods and became cult leaders and stuff. You know, so even the university communists who have their Harvard degrees and everything are watered down, milquetoast communists who go along to get along and will happily sell you out if that means you know that

they get more satin pillows or whatever well you you mentioned happily go along that is one of the main problems we have in society today yes is it's not that we are full of true believers yes there are plenty of true believers in communism and all that evil crap it's how many people will go along with it because it was just it's just the path of least resistance that's what we've seen it's how many people will go along with it because it was just it's just the path of least resistance that's what we've seen it's the easiest thing to do that's what cancel culture was that's what me too was exactly right it was a bunch of people going along of course and then the people who were you know pushing that stuff just use it to get ahead in their career and they didn't care who they destroyed they didn't care whose lives they destroyed how many men like i

remember during me too i was like this seems like total bs you know and how like i talked to several men i did this a report at the time like just reaching out to different guys who had been canceled because their lives ruined they lost their jobs they lost their scholarships they lost their families they lost their you know whatever careers many of them all of them lost their careers. And in, in almost every case, um, the situation was far more nuanced. Most of the time it had been like, you know, there was one guy, um, who was having an affair with this woman. She was married.

He was not. Now they're both committing adultery. I'm, you know, that's, that's never going to work out great for anybody, you know. But they were both doing that. She got caught by her husband and she decided to accuse him of being this sexual predator. Goodness. And it's like he's literally been your lover for months. You would like drive down to see him.

And now you're destroying his life because you don't want to get called out in front of your husband because you were committing this treason against your marriage, essentially. So, yeah, it's a pretty fascinating situation. And now we're seeing this stuff continue to play out. Well, this is why courage is important, especially now, because the easiest thing to do is to shut up and go along with it once once all of society once all of tide is flowing one way the easiest thing to do shut up put your head down keep quiet maybe even when they ask you to act like you're with them you know hey let's go rah rah rah that's the easiest thing to do and that's what kills these societies who get taken over by these revolutions almost to a certain extent it's like you can't wake everybody up but perhaps you can reverse the flow you know perhaps

you can make it be the other thing that everyone jumps into yeah i mean this situation and this is again something that i that lindsey said that i echo a lot like this got started before people realized it and it got going to the point where this ideology had made it into, you know, HR departments before people were even, would even acknowledge that it was a problem, that it, that it had, you know, negative connotations. HR was the original DEI. It was, it really was. I mean, essentially you'd get one person that would get into the HR department and once they would, they'd get in there and they'd act normal and they'd act like, you know, act like a human being. But if you get two or three people that share the ideology in the hr department

that's all you need and they can because they infest it or they infect it like the way like i said it's it's like they get inside and wear your organization like a skin suit they will enter into your organization through whatever means they can usually they'll do it by calling you names so they'll get the but when it comes calling you names. So they'll get the, but when it comes to like HR departments, they just get hired. And as soon as you get two or three people in, one person makes a claim,

oh, blah, blah, blah. Then everybody's afraid and they do whatever the fuck they say. That's exactly what happens. And it only takes a handful of people to take over a whole fucking company. And CEOs were terrified. And so what happened was that happened to to

corporate boardrooms all across the fucking country that's why you want to keep your company really small like i look at i look at the la times and business insider today was saying they were laying off eight percent of their staff and we've seen so many mass layoffs in media which i think is um i think is actually not great you know what I mean, for a lot of reasons. But, you know, Human Events Media Group, which is the post-millennial in human events, were really small. And I keep looking at it like, you know, I don't know how you, there's no mass layoffs. There could be no mass layoffs at our company because there's just not a mass. But the thing that's the worst part, I think, about the mass layoffs in media is not so much that bloated organizations are going to trim the fat and lose employees. It's that we are losing, I think, the concept of investigative journalism.

You know, so many outlets, you see the same stories circulating and you can go out, you can get more original content, you can work really hard on that. But original content like that, it takes a lot more time. You have to like, you know, allow your reporter to go off for days at a time and do the story and do the work. And that's the thing that made me so angry about the reversal of the New York Times to become essentially an activist rag, because I spent my whole life reading the Times being like, OK, these are facts. And even after I became acquainted with Noam Chomsky's work, I was like, OK, I understand East Timor. I gotcha, man, whatever.

But like the New York Times is still the New York Times. And losing the impetus on behalf of the editors and publishers to do the work, factual work, investigative work, to get to the bottom of things without any bias is a real detriment to our culture at large, especially when you have everybody so clued in to what's going on. You have the news everywhere all the time. You know, as Tim always says, politics has become everything. You know, culture is now politics. And that's where we are in our in our society marxism too by the way yeah and it's really um it's a shame that you can't that there's nothing you can trust it's like very difficult to put your foot down anywhere and

think that you're not going to say well they see the facts too you mentioned the facts i mean look at the they they once the facts are against them and the facts are always against communists they're not going to change they're not going to change course they're not going to back off they're going to find a way to seize the facts again they seize the choke points in any area you seize the universities you see when when there's a there will be a child drag show in some rural red town and i'll have people email my show jesse oh my gosh how's this happen how's this happen well you moved to that town and you put up a white picket fence and you went to church on Sunday and you watched the game and life was good. But there was a commie who moved to that town too. And you drove by city hall a thousand times and never thought about it.

The commie drove by city hall and pulled in the first day and he pulled in and he was looking for openings. Anything in the parks department? Is there anything here oh there's a commission for this he put he saw a place he was going to conquer and you wake up one day and you say well i don't understand we're we're 95 republican yeah you don't understand he sees the choke points like the spartan 300 in reverse he sees the past so and and they also have the motivation to act and to do stuff. Like people that want to be left alone, you're at a disadvantage. Like the people that want to change someone else's life and change things, they're inherently at an advantage because they're the ones that are going to be active, like actively working in the world. You don't know what they're going to do.

You don't know how changes that they want to put in place will affect you. So you're constantly responding to that kind of stuff. You know, so you are inherently at a disadvantage. It's an awful situation. The other thing too about the perpetual, so we had a lot of news stories. So I follow the news cycle, right?

Like I'm just following the news cycle all day that I'm awake. And then on the weekends, whenever I'm awake, I'm following the news cycle right like i'm i'm i'm just following the news cycle all day that i'm awake and then on the weekends whenever i'm awake i'm following the news cycle um and so we had for a while a spate of stories about drag shows for kids and drag queen story hour and then we had you know that morphed into what was going on in education and drag performances at holiday parties, right? People dressed up like fireworks or whatever. And then you have, we had a lot of that and it generated a lot of outrage. And now you can run those same stories and it doesn't generate any outrage and it doesn't generate any change. Like to a certain extent, we as media organizations that continue exposing these things, it's like, are we blackpilling everybody?

You know, is that what's going on? Are we encouraging people to just close off or are we encouraging people to act? Are we just providing information like what is the what is the um what is it that people are taking from the constant news cycle like i remember when i was a kid and the iraq war it was the iraq war was it desert it was desert storm it was in the 80s no it was in the 90s it was desert storm and i remember and there was like the smart bomb you know going down the on the one and it was like the one thing and they talk about it in Wag the Dog, that David Mamet movie, which is so great.

Have you guys seen that movie? That's such a great movie. So there was the smart bomb. And I remember I get home from school, I, you know, walk in off the bus, and my stepmom is like pale, you know, she's chain smoking, and she's watching the- Yeah, watching the war on tv i remember that distinctly i remember i walked to my buddy's house and we opened the door and the the hallway went down straight down the downstairs where his room was and he pops his head and he's like yo get down

here we're bombing the shit out of iraq you know and i'm like whatever like 16 or whatever 15 17 or something like that you know but so it brings up an interesting question, too. It was like Laura and Luke's wedding. Is it good or bad for a society to have that much more information? Now, you have to because you don't want anyone controlling the information. You don't want anyone. You stop and you stop and you're censored and you're censored. At the same time, are we really better off?

We have more information available now, I mean mean in your smartphone than anyone else in history and we're probably dumber right well norm mcdonald said the news should be only half a hour remember that maybe he was right i mean norm was always sort of right there's uh already uh or there is officially a wiki for the standoff at Eagle Pass. Wow. Oh, boy. Did we get into this one right here? Texas is calling on private citizens to assist in securing the border, offering to dispatch free of charge razor wire to any private property along the border.

One individual said he's working with CBP to try and stop these people, but they come anyway. He said he put up razor wire and these guys trampled over it like deer. And so he was just like, it's not going to work. Well, they scale fences. They scale fences in minutes. I was talking to a Border Patrol guy one time. They had a fence up and they had video of this. They weren't there at the time, but they had put it.

There was a wall in this area, some sort of a fence, and they had specially constructed a pickup truck with a ladder in the back of it and a levee system. And they just loaded everyone in the back and they backed it right up to the wall and they just laid it right on there. They had the height perfectly. And he said, Jesse, we timed it 45 seconds. There were 12 of them over the top. Gone.

Gone. Gone. I don't know either. Like what I don't understand either like what i don't understand either is what do the people coming into the united states expect like what do they think is going to be so great for them the biden administration is giving them three thousand dollars i think it is and a free free free hotel rooms how much there are three thousand dollars and a cell phone they're chanting his name they're customs and border protection agents reportedly are handing three are handing

cash cards to illegal immigrants and giving them rides to centers where they get room and board and transport to various cities taxpayer funded or ngo funded which those are usually i assume it's taxpayer funded because they can't report to their court cases unless they have the means to do so which is the finances to live and travel and the cell phones to be contacted. Although their court cases are five years down the road. If CBP just said, yeah, I'm not driving these people anywhere, then you'd have a mass load of people just sitting in Eagle Pass. You'd have six million people sitting at Eagle Pass standing in their own shit but cbp is smuggling them across the country putting them on planes bringing them to facilities where they get loaded on buses or sent by swift air and other

private flights commercial well they're flying commercial yeah and private charter yeah and uh i have confirmed the existence of major airline boarding passes that say no name given ashley st claire broke the story she uh she's working on getting the story out i don't want to say too much because it's her story but i have confirmed that as well as other information that i don't know if i'm allowed to talk about because it's their story but she did say i want to make sure you know this is real sent me not only the boarding pass no name given there's actually a lot more and it's a lot worse than people realize. Well, it's what we were talking about too earlier

is escalation. Now, this is the kind of thing that escalates the blood of the American people, the red states. This is why the coalition forms so quickly. This is the kind of stuff that enrages people. At the same time, the Biden administration, this is their bread and butter,

filling up the country with illegals. So who backs off? And if you say someone backs off, and I'm not going to disagree with that because who knows how, in what way can you back off? If you're Biden, you can't. If you're Abbott, you can't. What are you going to do? Say, oh, I'm removing the razor wire?

Then you go from a hero to a coward in the eyes of everybody else. Who backs off? With Trump joining the fray, calling on more states to jump in, this is a boulder falling down a mountain. I really wish that Trump had not because I don't know that Trump making a statement

does anything good. I think there's a strong possibility they try and call that an insurrection. But he's a private citizen. How can you, I'm, I'm allowed to call for, I think the governor should send the national guard to the board.

I can do that. I'm the, I have the same rank that Trump does right now. Right. How could you, I mean, I realize he's already on a bunch of Trump up charges. That's exactly,

but it's not just that they look what they're doing to Steve Baker, which I think we're going to have him in next week. He's a journalist, and they're trying to arrest him for being there on January 6th. Filming it. But because he's exposing their lies. His act of journalism exposed perjury.

And so they're trying to lock him up. They will go after... Yeah. They went after Owen Schroyer. What did he do? He yelled, death to commies. They will go after. Yeah. They went after Owen Schroyer. What did he do? He yelled death to commies. No, death to tyrants. I thought it was commies.

I thought it was death to tyrants. Okay. Well, either way. One of them. Because I recall that. He's outside as a private citizen saying death to tyrants. So they put him in prison. They.

The question is. Well, first, private citizens can engage in insurrection. The question is, are you a threat to the system? Donald Trump being a threat to their system, they will say he leads hundreds of millions, 70 plus million voters. He's the front runner for the political party, and he is rallying states that support him into deploying armed soldiers to fight against the federal government. That's insurrection. And right before the Supreme Court issues their ruling on whether or not he can be removed for waging insurrection. But he's not in charge of them.

He's not in charge. It'd be one thing if he was a governor. It'd be one thing if Abbott came up and said, fight the government. Trump is a private citizen right now. But it, well, I should say, I was about to say in law, but like we have law in this country anymore. But yeah, it hardly matters anymore. So let's say the head of the Teamsters Union comes out and says, it is time for us to go fight the federal government and take up arms. He's not in charge of anybody. He's, no, an individual that's going to be leading some kind of insurrection or rebellion or revolution is not going to be in the government.

It would be a coup if that was the case. You could argue that if Donald Trump was in government in charge of something and called on states to rise up against the feds, you could call that you could call that insurrection, too. You could call that a military coup attempt or a revolution. A private band of people in Syria, for instance, would like, I don't know that insurrection is the word we necessarily need to use. That's the political term they're trying to use. But the factions in Syria who are calling for people to rise up against Bashar al-Assad, would we say, yeah, but they're just private citizens. They're not involved in any way and we should ignore them. But they're marching down the street with people behind them.

It eventually leads to an armed faction in a civil war. So who else would you accuse of insurrection? But this goes back to the escalation talk we were just talking about. Okay, let's say I agree with you, and I don't necessarily think you're wrong if they're going to accuse him of insurrection for this, too. They've accused him of insurrection for everything else. Are you going to escalate it by arresting him again for that? Now we've entered a whole other realm, too.

You're going to go down, kick in the doors of Mar-a-Lago again and arrest him again? They are going to push this thing to a place that I certainly don't want to see it go. But that's the kind of thing. I think they will. I shouldn't say will. I think they would. I think they would. There's a strong probability that within a few months,

this is, this is, this, I mean, look, you've already got Democrats calling for the federalization of, uh,