Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #948 TX Gov Abbott Says TEN STATES Deployed National Guard To Oppose Biden w/Larry Elder

Episode Date: January 27, 2024

Tim, Phil, Hannah Claire, & Kellen join Larry Elder to discuss 10 states sending National Guard troops to help Texas with the border crisis, Larry Elder explaining the Gavin Newsom recall election, and Trump being ordered to pay $83.3 million in E. Jean Carrol defamation suit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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to Texas to defend the border. And we're hearing reports that private citizens in various capacities are making their way to Texas. There are many people, prominent personalities saying, do not go to Texas, fearing another January 6th type incident. I don't know what's going to happen. I think this one should be left up to Greg Abbott and the National Guard and law enforcement. It should be done through all the legal channels they're going through. The National Guard are being deployed.

I think it's probably a safe bet to say private citizens shouldn't go anywhere near this in reference to any kind of conflict. I can't I can't tell people what they should or shouldn't do. If you're a private citizen, you can go where you're allowed to go. But I definitely think it's important to say there's a lot of danger right now. And Greg Abbott is walking a fine line and he's walking the right line. And the best way this this this is carried out is if Greg Abbott can handle this with the assistance of other states. But a lot of wild news breaking all of this down. There's also reporting that the Border Patrol Union said they stand with Texas. So I'm having trouble corroborating a lot of this.

I want to be careful. It's just a reporter I'm seeing on X. We'll talk about that. Plus, Donald Trump has been ordered to pay $83 million to E. Jean Carroll for defaming her. So they say things are getting absolutely crazy. And of course, my friends, I don't really know how to say this. I'm just going to. Ben Shapiro is the number one rapper in the world right now.

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it's not a lot of competition on iTunes. We've done something similar. However, the song just went up. And so this is massive to reach this level in one day. And if everybody buys the song on Amazon or iTunes, it is entirely likely that Ben Shapiro could be, as of next week, not actually,

but so throughout this next week, they'll, they'll track the charts. And then the following Tuesday, we'll release the billboard charts across the board. Ben Shapiro will probably be a billboard charting, hip hop artist and rapper because already the amount of sales they have. So we'll talk about that before we get started, head over to cast brew.com,

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and you can help make Ben Shapiro the number one rapper in the world. I want to stress, this is not a sponsored spot. We are not paid to say this. I want, look, I'm a big fan of Tom McDonald, and I'm a big fan of Ben Shapiro, though I have criticisms of Ben Shapiro's commentary. I think a lot of you do. I respect the work. As for Tom McDonald, I think he's amazing, and I definitely want to see Tom succeed in the music industry.

And when I talk about the work we do in music and how we want to smash our way into the Billboard chart rankings, the same applies for our friends who make music as well, which includes the guys over at based records five times August. And right now with Tom McDonald releasing a song with Ben Shapiro, you know, we love shouting out Tom McDonald, but when I heard that Ben Shapiro was going to rap, I, they, no one asked me to do this. I said, I the love of God, can we make Ben Shapiro the number one rapper in the country? And it's just not only an act. There's a great message in the song with what the lyrics are themselves. But the troll, I'm sorry.

I just if there's anything if there's anything I could buy, like if there's anything I could wish for right now, aside from justice on the border, right? But as a cultural endeavor, we can all do right now as just something fun. It's to go to factswithben.com and buy the song to support Tom McDonald and Ben Shapiro. And again, we're not sponsored to say this. They did not. No one asked us to do this. I asked them to do it.

And I said, well, we will shout you out. Before we get started, I also want to give a shout out to Oin mcintyre who says on twitter the year is 2024 texas leads a coalition of over 20 states who oppose the federal government taylor swift is the biggest name in professional football ben shapiro is the number one rapper in the country it's only january welcome to 2024 ladies and gentlemen smash that like button become a member over at timcast.com if you want to support our work and uh share the show with your.com if you want to support our work and share the show with your friends. Joining us today,

tonight, to talk about this and everything else is the great Larry Elder. Tim, thank you so much for having me. Hey, if I can be the black face

of white supremacy, then Ben Shapiro can be the number one rapper. I have a brand new book. It's called As Goes California, My Mission to Rescue the Golden State.

And I'm breaking some big news. Hold it up, hold it up. I'm breaking some big news on your show. I called the CEO telling him I was going to be on your show turns out he's a big fan of yours he said you tell tim any of his viewers want a free copy of your book have them go to old glory bank.com open up an account and when you get your debit card in the mail you will get a free copy of larry elder's book as goes california a 25 value oh right on what's the book about it's

about california how messed up it, why I ran for the recall election. And at the time, I was thinking about running for president. Later on, I did. And about why I was running and what I would do if I became president. We got to talk about that, especially with what's going on in Texas, these other states speaking up. As Goes California. Yep.

All right. Excited to have you here, man. Appreciate it. My pleasure. We got Hannah Clare Brimelow hanging out. Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. It's a really cool team.

You should follow them at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram. Phil's here. Hello, I am Phil Labonte, lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, a very failed musician, anti-communist, and counter-revolutionary. And what's up, guys? I'm filling in for Serge. It's Kellen. I'm wearing my Texas hat with all the news going on and today's culture war. I thought it was appropriate. So let's get to it, Tim. Here we go. The first story from AmericanMilitaryNews.com video.

Texas prepared for standoff with Biden. Ten states send troops and law enforcement to the border. Governor Abbott told former Fox News host Tucker Carlson Friday that 10 states have already sent National Guard troops or other law enforcement members to the southern border to aid Texas in the face of growing pressure from President Joe Biden's administration to allow Border Patrol agents to remove razor wire barriers the state installed to deter illegal immigrants from pouring into the state. During Friday's interview with Carlson, Abbott said he would be surprised if any of the 25 Republican states that have pledged to support his state did not send additional assistance. Quote, there have been about 10 states so far that have sent National Guard or other law enforcement, Abbott said. They are now joined together with us. And this is a fight for the future of America. Now, I don't know what's currently going on. News is happening very it's changing rapidly with what's happening on the border.

Today was the deadline. The Biden administration was supposed to do something. Apparently, I've seen some people spreading a rumor that there was some they said, OK, today's the deadline. But then they said something like 6 p.m. And I have not heard anything just yet. Some people are saying there's very little information coming out because something is actually going on behind the scenes. But I don't know for sure. Part of me wants to believe because of normalcy and optimism bias, this will all blow over.

But considering Ben Shapiro is the number one rapper in the world, I think it's more likely to just erupt in the most absurd way imaginable. I think it's important to point out that at one time, Democrats spoke like Donald Trump did about illegal immigration and about the borders. People like Chuck Schumer, people like Harry Reid, after the first bombing of the World Trade Center, he even, Harry Reid even talked about how the 14th Amendment is interpreted to confer citizenship to an illegal alien who has a baby on American soil. He thought that was wrong. They even use the term illegal alien. People like that said this kind of stuff. Amy Klobuchar said it. Dianne Feinstein said it.

Now, all of a sudden, they've done a 180. And anybody who feels the way Donald Trump feels is a bigot. No, it's crazy. I think our country forgets that at one point, we were willing to talk openly about the ills of illegal immigration as a country became afraid of being called racist. And then we said, it's okay, we'll just leave the border open. And now everyone else pays the cost of it, both financially and psychologically. It really detracts from the American spirit if we have a class of people in this country who are not actually a part of it,

and we say to the illegal immigrants, the things that you did to get here, the sacrifices you made, were actually for nothing because you don't get the benefits of crossing legally. I think it's less that people are concerned about being called racist and more that the Democrats realize this is a big voting constituency, and they wanted to change the electorate because they were losing elections.

America was a 50-50 nation, but you bring in a bunch of people who are going to pull the lever for the Democratic Party, they assume, and all of a sudden you're guaranteed a governing coalition for Democrats in the future. That's why they're doing this. Yeah, it's pull the lever or just change the census data. But it gives them congressional seats and electoral votes. Of course. The argument that you hear them make to the average person that's, say, low political information is that the— We mean stupid people. I'm trying to be nice. liabilities are going to destroy the economy and we need to have people come in to work because we do not have replacement uh levels of of having babies and stuff and i think that there is some

some validity to the argument which is why i think it's convincing i think that that gets to i think that that makes makes enough of an argument to convince people that are, again, that are low information. What do you think is the best way to convince them? Because I talk to people that just, they'll see stuff on the internet and they're just like, no, they don't believe it. Even if the argument had validity, that population getting older, unfunded pension liabilities, so-called entitlements. So we need to bring in new people in order to make them contribute so that these people can get their full benefits. It still has to be legal. We just have to know who they are,

what they're here for, what their intentions are. You just can't come across a border and go, okay, well, you're solving our unfunded pension liability problem. It's ridiculous. And I gotta say, before I would ever accept that proposed solution,

I would accept if you have three babies, you pay zero federal taxes. I'd love it. Yeah. My only point or the only point in asking that question and the thing that I'm concerned with is convincing people that the situation is untenable. Convincing them that this is actually a problem. Because I do believe that most people don't pay attention. Most people don't really watch the news very closely. And then when they do, they tend to listen to what the talking heads say, and they assume that that's the truth. Michael Malice talks about when you tell the average person that the news is lying

to them, it's like you're being told that the meteorologist is lying to you and he knows right most people think the news is telling the truth how and my concern is convincing them that we actually do have a real problem and so I want to know what what people think the best way to you know to actually to move the needle because this is it's coming to a head where we're good where it's possible that we'd meme ourselves into actual conflict like everything is theater until someone actually does something and anytime you get dudes with guns in close proximity with opposing interests there's a chance for that and i don't want to see that happen well phil let's talk about the original sin here the original sin is joe biden he comes in and he literally says, essentially, the borders are open. During the debate against Donald Trump, he said, there's going to be a surge to the border.

He promptly reverses every single one of the Trump policies that gave us the most secure border in our history. And I know that it is. I'm staying in a hotel

where you guys send me. There are a whole bunch of DEA guys there, border patrol guys there. And I had a conversation with one right before I got into the car to come over.

Yeah. At the hotel I stay at where you send me. Yeah And they had a whole bunch of border patrol people staying there and I talked to them told him where I was going They knew who you were And um, I said donald trump often says that when he was president we had the most secure border in our history Is that true? And there were two guys there. They said absolutely it was true And they said it was like a switch was turned on when joe biden came in He stopped the stay in mexico program. He resumed catch and release.

The Mexicans took off the twenty five thousand people they had in their military and moved them elsewhere. And the the problem then exploded, he said, overnight. There was a legal alien coming across the border being interviewed by a woman named Martha Raddatz. She's a longtime reporter with ABC News and he and she said to him if Donald Trump had gotten reelected. Would you be here? He said no and she was shocked and he said why and he said Joe Biden Has given us permissive Change the rhetoric change the policies and that's why they're here and that's the original sin And so Joe Biden should have seen this coming. You think America is going to sit around and watch millions of people coming across the country and do nothing about it?

Are you serious? And the reason why they're basically asked for it. The reason they're coming to Eagle Pass is because of the controversy. Because you have if they go to other places, I think Lukeville is in Arizona. Places where there's a lot of controversy. You have leftist organizations they know are prepared to accept you and fight on your behalf to enter. Whereas if they go to some random open border, like I would say unprotected border area, private property or otherwise, they could get shot. You go to Eagle Pass, let the right and the left fight about it, and the Border Patrol agents bring you bring you to where you need to go where someone gives you money uh but i'll say i don't have i don't have a particularly high opinion of border patrol agents right now however should that report

be be correct from i think it's from colin rug that the border patrol union announced support for texas then i'm then i'm on board but cpp agents have to stop facilitating the human smuggling that i see a video of them raising the razor wire to assist human smugglers. Those guys have committed a crime. They're just following orders. Oh, all the more reason they should be in prison. They're just following orders. They don't want to do this.

They want to keep their jobs. They're just following orders. And Phil, to your point. They should be in prison. To your point, it is becoming an issue. In Iowa, it's the number one issue. It's not even a border state. I've been traveling all throughout Iowa. They weren't talking about this when I was there.

It's now become the number one issue over inflation, over the economy in Iowa. And the most ingenious thing that the Southern governors did was start sending these people to cities like Chicago, in New York, and Martha's Vineyard, because then it came to them, and all of a sudden now they're taking this problem seriously, or more seriously than before I have a friend uh good friend of mine that was uh talking he's got a friend that actually works at border patrol and he isn't even like he's not even convinced that they're like I said he's not even convinced there's a problem he's like well my friend says that if they're here illegally that they can that texas can just put them over the border and and he says so they're this is actually a show from uh you

know from desantis and a show from abbott and i'm like i'm pretty sure that these people are coming and asking for asylum and that's why that's right and that's the problem and they're being processed in yeah and they let them in they give you a court date three four years down the road they don't show up. In fact, I asked one of the guys today, we have 8 million illegal aliens in the country since Joe Biden. He said, that number is probably accurate. I said, how many of them are going to be deported if and when Donald Trump comes back?

He said, I don't see how we can possibly write them up and get them out. They're here for good. I'm pretty sure we dealt with this when, what was the the who was the head of ice a few years back home in home in right uh i'm pretty sure in his testimony outright said it it doesn't matter for seeking asylum crossing through asylum legally you must go to a legal port of entry and make a declaration that means the cbp agents who there's a video of them opening a gate in the bollard fence and waving them in and these aren't the only instances again they were just following orders so tan which is an excellent reason why they i hold them 10 times

more responsible than i would if they were actually you know uh the the you're saying they're intentionally committing felonies because they were told to does not change the fact they committed felonies well that's fair argument but uh joe biden uh and uh and mayorkas are telling you with a straight face the borders are secured. No, no, Biden said the border's not secure. He said it recently. He doesn't know what he said. But before that, when Mayorkas said the borders are secured. He doesn't know what's going on.

The press secretary confirmed that she thought the borders were secured. I think, I completely agree, Joe Biden should be impeached over this and convicted over this. Talk about insurrection. Oh, I mean, yeah, subverting the about the insurrection. Oh, I mean, yeah. Subverting the law, a violation of Article. I mean, Greg Abbott says Article 4, Section 4 and Article 1, Section 10. And so now he's actively trying to stop the state from defending itself. Yeah, I think for this, Biden should be impeached and convicted and following his impeachment and conviction, criminally charged along with people in his administration that being said the challenge we face right now is the political barrier of

we don't want the democrats to be able to sub out joe biden at a time when joe biden is like we want the people to vote to bring in donald trump to solve the problem we actually impeach and convict joe biden they could bring in michelle obama or or gavin newsom and it's going to benefit them and the corruption. Not going to happen, Tim. Here's the deal. The reason Joe Biden is not going anywhere, if you can fog up a mirror, it's because the next person in line is not Gavin Newsom. It's not Michelle Obama.

It's Kamala Harris. She wants to be president. I read a lot of black media, and they feel she's being picked on for her so-called cackle. They feel that Joe Biden has given her thankless tasks like getting to the bottom of the root causes of illegal immigration. And black women are the most loyal part of the Democratic base. And they will be furious if she's dropkicked for anybody other than a Michelle Obama. And Michelle Obama does not want the job. She wants to be loved. She wants to be liked. There's nothing that suggests to me

that she has the temperament. I want to send her thank you notes every Christmas for that. She does not have the temperament to be a politician. She complained for eight years about what it was like to be in a fishbowl or being first lady.

What makes you think she wants to be a politician? Nothing. She likes to be wealthy and influential. Here's the play. All Trump supporters must send warm thank you letters to Michelle Obama, but also include, we would be upset with you

and we wouldn't love you anymore if you ran for president. So just keep it where it is and we're good. And if Michelle, Kamala Harris, a dropkick for some white dude like Mayor Pete or Gavin Newsom, they will be livid. They won't vote Republican.

They just won't vote at all. Thereby guaranteeing whoever we nominate will win. They won't do that. It's a rock and a hard place for Democrats, man. You live with the identity race card, you die with it. And that's why she's there. She got picked because she's a black female. She's still a black female. By the way, she wanted to run for president.

She did run. And tell her to step aside for Michelle Obama, even if Michelle Obama announced. Kamala ran for DA of San Francisco. She got elected. She ran for AG of California, got elected and re-elected. She ran for U.S. Senator, got elected. And she's on the card with with Joe Biden, got elected. She's never lost election when she's been on the ticket.

Nothing. And there's nothing at all that suggests to me that she's going to. Oh, my God, I'm incompetent. I'll step aside for Michelle Obama. Oh, my God, I'm incompetent. I'll step aside for Gavin Newton. Not going to happen unless they're she along with Biden are impeached and convicted. And she's ineligible. But what would she I mean, what is the timeline in that? I think it was more likely to just leave joe biden where he is zero chance of either i i don't think they they would impeach they may want to honestly because how can you sub the kamala harris thing is a huge problem for democrats how do you have a problem they can't even so how do you get michelle obama

in without both the backroom and forward-facing deals if they were uh so so, you know, Roger Stone said they're going to offer her a Supreme Court seat, Kamala Harris, and she'll bow out. And I said, no, no, no, that might solve the backroom deal. No, they already had a chance to do that with the Ketanji Brown Jackson seat. But my point is, there may be a backroom deal with Kamala Harris, but how do you publicly explain Kamala Harris no longer being in the running for president? Kamala Harris wants the job. She wants the job.

She ran for the job. And you don't think there's anything they could offer her as a substitute? Like what? What's a sub to be president? The first black woman president? There is nothing. There's nothing. That's the thing.

I mean, there was this idea that theoretically they could offer her a Supreme Court chair, but I don't think she would take anything else. They could offer her treasurer of Black Lives Matter. There's a lot of money there. I'm running for that. I appreciate, I love the fact that you are here delivering this information, because this all sounds, this is all the greatest news that I've

heard all day long. And regarding Gavin Newsom, I mean, think about Gavin Newsom. Aside from what I said about Kamala Harris, what is Gavin Newsom going to offer if you feel that we're on the wrong track? Nothing. He praised the pullout of Afghanistan. He's probably the only major politician who did. He's a more extremist on climate change than Joe Biden. He wants to outlaw the sale of new gas powered cars, as I explain in my book, As Goes California, by the year 2035. He's more of a climate change extremist than Biden

is. He loves all the spending. He set up a panel for crying out loud for reparations in California. He's more left wing than Joe Biden. If you're unhappy with how the country's going what makes you think gavin newsom has prescription to make things better so you know i know like you're really you know philosophy and stuff and you know about mark hughes and stuff like that is gavin newsom is he a true believer or is he just someone that is doing what he's told by like people that know theory and people that know it's not that complicated gavin newsom is just dumb he's just dumb okay i mean i mean raising taxes people leaving california and you want to raise even more taxes okay he's just dumb so it has nothing to do with any philosophy leftist philosophy okay i don't think so well you'd know better than i he shut down the

state in a more severe way than anybody else did while leaving his own private winery open his own kids in private school it It ticked people off, which is why he faced a recall election. He doesn't get it. I was surprised that he survived that recall, to be honest with you. And by the way, his numbers now are the worst they've ever been.

And they're citing crime and homelessness as the two reasons why. And they cheated you out of that. Yeah. Do you want to break down for us how that went down with, you know, you were running, it looked like you were set up to win.

A couple of things happened to him. First of all, as I explain in my book, they tried to keep me off the ballot. were running it looked like you were set up to a couple of things tim first of all as i explained in my book they try to keep me off the ballot the first provisional ballot comes out elder's name's not on it even though we did all the things supposed to get signatures and this that and the other do all the filing and you have to turn in five years of your tax returns by the way i think illegally uh there was a there was a law that was passed by the California legislature. This is before Donald Trump's tax returns had been illegally exposed because they wanted him to turn them over. Even the outgoing governor, Jerry Brown, didn't sign it because he thought it was a violation of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.

So Gavin Newsom comes in, signs it, and requires anybody running for president or governor to turn over five years of tax returns. We didn't even feel it applied to a recall election, but did it anyway you have to do five sets 500 pages and 500 pages for what reasons that still i don't understand there were seven pages missing from the second set of of the two so the california secretary of state says elder is not eligible because he did not comply with the requirements wow even though there's a provision that says if there's a minor error the secretary of state has the power to correct that minor error. So we filed a lawsuit and the judge who heard the lawsuit was a Berkeley Cal, UC Berkeley graduate. Not good. Female. Not good. Democrat. Not good. And up for a judgeship by Gavin Newsom. Not good. Not good. Not good.

Not wow. It's on YouTube. The hearing. It was about 15 minutes long. And she said to the California lawyers, gentlemen, first of all, the California Secretary of State has a power to correct a minor error. And all you had to do was look at the first set to find the seven pages that were missing from the second set. You didn't even do that. And secondly, I don't even believe the law applies to a recall election. What do you have to say? And it was over. It was done. Wow, really?

So that's the first thing they did. And then, of course, she cited it for you. Right away. Right away. Slam dunk. Booyah. I told my lawyer that my cousin Vinny could win this case. And he said, all right, hire my cousin Vinny.

I said, come back. Come back. I was joking. I was joking. But the big thing is that in California, we have this endless voting. Almost six weeks. And during the campaign, I made, in my my opinion one tactical mistake i made was i never told uh said anything at my rallies to go and vote right now but i knew my people were going to show

up and vote on the same day which they did long lines almost as long as the election of 2020 but they had been collecting ballots for almost five or six weeks and there's ballot harvesting i didn't tell people to do that yeah and uh we need to get in that game and in california registered republicans are outnumbered by non-registered republicans three to one i got outspent ten to one uh incomes uh and for a while it was a two-step deal the first part is do you want gavin newsom recalled and if 50 plus one said yes whoever got the most votes on the replacement side would win there were 46 candidates including myself on the side. I got 3.5 million votes, more than almost all the others combined. California has 58 counties. On the replacement side, I carried 57 to 58. The only one I lost was San Francisco, and I lost that by,

wait for it, 149 votes. I raised $27 million in seven weeks. Gavin Newsom outspent me 10 to 1, and for a while, the first part of the ballot do you want gavin newsom recall was in the margin of error they were scared bleepless yeah big article in the hollywood reporter gavin newsom called out all these entertainers to come in a snoop dog uh tweeted against me a whole bunch of other celebrities tweeted against me in comes joe biden he says larry elder is the closest thing to a donald trump clone as i've ever seen i don't know if i should be the closest thing to a donald clone as I've ever seen. You're the closest thing to a Donald Trump clone? I don't know if I should have been flattered or offended.

Barack Obama cut a commercial for him. Kamala Harris did. Warren did. They all did. And I took one picture of Donald Trump in my life at that time. Both of us had our thumbs up together. I saw that picture over and over and over again. They kept showing it over and over again. And

they said this, they didn't say Gavin Newsom is doing a great job for the people of California on crime, on homelessness, on how bad our schools are, on water management, on fire management, and the fact that people are leaving. No, Gavin Newsom stopped Republican takeover. That's what they said over and over again that was a line stop the republican takeover no matter how bad things are republicans will make things worse democrats haven't run on any of their achievements or anything in almost a decade now you know and phil opening i open my book with this story about what happened after i ran for for governor i go to a restaurant west side of la la is liberal west side's even more liberal i get there about 15

minutes from my buddy and the table over here with two ladies. And I think they feel sorry for me sitting there by myself. So we start talking. Turns out they're 85 years old. They've known each other since the second grade. One of them was celebrating her 85th birthday. One of them said she's a human rights proponent, whatever that is. And then about 15, 20 minutes into the conversation, she says, wait a minute. I know who you are. You're that guy that ran the recall. You're that Larry Elder. She smiled. She said, guess who we voted for? I said, you didn't vote for me. I said, how do you know that? I said,

let's see, we're on the west side of LA. You're both Jewish. One of you is a human rights activist. You didn't vote for me. And they admitted they had not. I said, let me ask you something. How do you feel about the crime? And they both admitted they knew people who got mugged. How do you feel about the way Gavin Newsom shut down the state? They both said that they knew people who lost mugged. How do you feel about the way Gavin Newsom shut down the state? They both said that they knew people who lost their businesses.

A third of all restaurants gone forever in California. How do you feel about schools? They both admitted they would never put their kid in a public school in Los Angeles to save their lives. How do you feel about the fact that people are leaving? They both admitted they lost friends. I said, so here we are completing each other's sentences, but you didn't vote for me. Have you ever had a conversation with a conservative Republican before? They look at each other and they said, so here we are completing each other's sentences, but you didn't vote for me. Have you ever had a conversation with a conservative Republican before? They look at each other and they said, we have not.

I also talk in my book about I've got some back issues. I know you're a skateboarder. I could never do that. I've got some back issues. And a friend of mine recommended this massage therapist who said she could do some interesting things with my back. So I go to this place. I think it's going to be an office building. I drive down a residential street. I knock on this house. my back. So I go to this place. I think it's going to be an office building. I drive down to Residential Street.

I knock on this house. Door opens up. Lady comes to the door. She's got tattoos everywhere, piercings everywhere but her eyeballs. Her hair is four or five different colors. I get hit in the face with a big plume of marijuana smoke. Not that I would know what that would smell like, guys. And she starts working on my back.

You were probably right. I know it. She starts working on my back. And she's playing Motown music, which is my favorite genre of music, not rap, Motown. And there's a song that comes on, My Girl, probably my favorite song of all time. And I told her, this is written by Smokey Robinson. He wrote it for a guy named David Ruffin, who was in the lead singer of The Temptations, who unfortunately had a drug overdose.

And the song comes on. Oh, this is Marvin Gaye from a song called What's Happening Now. Barry Gorder, the CEO of Motown, didn't want to record it because Barry liked to control all the rights of recording. Wow. And they did it anyway and became the biggest hit Motown ever had't want to record it because Barry liked to control all the rights of recording. Wow. And they did it anyway and became the biggest hit Motown ever had. Every song that came on, I knew the backstory. And she said, about a half hour, I know who you are.

When you called to make the appointment, I knew who you were. I didn't want to say anything because, you know, didn't vote for you. Had I known you were this personable and this funny, I would have voted for you. And I said, do you know any Republicans? And she said, no. I said, not one you know any republicans and she said no i said not one she said no i said news bulletin we have personalities we have sensitive humor she didn't know a single republican remember what is that remember when bob dole was running and how stiff he was and then after he got done after the election he went on i think it was snl and

everybody was like if i saw that bob dole or a bunch of people were like if I saw that Bob Dole I would have voted for him because he was personable and the way that they wanted him to be on the campaign trail was really stiff and informal. That's what Obama had. Yeah he was great. But Tim I am funny. I am personable. I am likable. And they know that. That is why they attacked me the way they did.

And I'm also humble. That's why the LA Times called me the black face of white supremacy. In fact, it was not even buried in the article. It was a headline.

Larry Elder is the black face of white supremacy sub-headline. You've been warned. But you also don't get support from the RNC. I mean, this year when you were shut out of the debate,

they used a crazy, oh, this poll doesn't count. You're affiliated with it and so is Donald Trump. I mean, don't get me started on that. Okay,

you got me started. No, definitely, definitelyald mcdaniel's the worst thing about the republican party right now i had and it was shortly after you were here last time and there's a lot of things that are bad about the republican party i had to submit three polls where i said one percent or better done done and done she calls me up when the deadline is over and says i can't use you can't use one of those polls i said which one rasmussen poll i said why because it's affiliated with the Trump campaign. And it is true. The rules were any poll affiliated with any candidate cannot be used by any other candidate.

And I said, I submitted a fourth one. And she said, well, you submitted it too late. Well, it's because I didn't realize I needed to submit four. And by the way, Rasmussen promptly put out a tweet and said, Larry Elder can use us. We are not affiliated with the Trump campaign. And they still didn't put me up. I threatened to file a complaint with the FEC for $100 million. My lawyer is the former chair of the FEC.

And he said, by failing to apply the debate criteria fairly to you, what the RNC did essentially was to give an in-kind contribution to the eight people who did make the debate stage. And based on the value of the two hours of the Fox News time, that's $100 million. I said, if you don't put me on, I went to Milwaukee, even though I was told I wasn't going to be on the value of the two hours of the uh fox news time that's 100 million dollars i said if you don't put me on i went to milwaukee even though i was told i wasn't going to be on the stage i went to milwaukee and i told ronald mcdaniel and the rnc if you don't put me up there make the announcement by two o'clock i'm going to file this complaint and two o'clock came and went

they didn't do it so i filed the complaint so right now they're facing a hundred million dollar complaint i filed with the fec i I hope you win. Me too. When all the $100 million or whatever you have left goes to you, you have some kind of weird pseudo alternate version of the RNC which is substantially better than whatever it is they're doing now. Either that or go home. Do you think that there's a way the RNC could... Either that or do a lot of drugs and go to Vegas. Find me what marijuana smells like.

You'll buy all of the original pressing Motown albums in vinyl. That's right, there you go. Do you think there's a way the RNC could right the ship? I mean, is it a change in leadership that would change these things? I think had Harmeet Dhillon

won that election, everything would have been different. By the way, they didn't help me either during the recall. Yeah, that's what I remembered first and then the presidential.

Kevin McCarthy at the time told all the dozen or so House representatives to endorse a guy named Kevin Faulkner, two-term mayor of San Diego. And only two publicly endorsed me. They were Michelle Lee and Doug LaMalfa from the Sacramento area. By the way, I carried San Diego County by 30 points. Wow. And it was obvious that the grassroots wanted me. I mean, when I announced, I had no idea

what was going to happen. I immediately shot to the top of the polls. And every time they had a debate, I didn't go to any of the debates because I was raising money. And also, we all knew what the issues were. I figured all that would happen is we chew each other up and Gavin Newsom would have a lot of sound that he would use against us. Which is why, by the way, I believe that Nikki Haley should drop out of the race. She's making Donald Trump spend money. She's given Joe Biden a lot of soundbites he can use against him she made a comment today just just before we started talking about the uh finding

against trump which i understand you want to attack your opponent but it's a totally bs finding like it's absolutely outside of the realm of reality what good does it do i mean and to use that it legitimizes it from a person who took a pledge to support whichever Republican could beat Joe Biden. Donald Trump's not the one who let in 8 million people. Donald Trump's not the one that made us go from energy independent to having gas prices almost twice what they were. Donald Trump's not the one that made inflation get to 40-year high. He's not the problem. He's not the problem.

And it's also, to me, damaging her four years down the road. Because assuming that Donald Trump is a nominee and assuming for a moment that he loses, and we do the post-mortem on your show, Tim, one of the reasons you're going to offer is that Nikki Haley stayed in too long, cost Donald Trump money that could have been used against Joe Biden, and gave Donald Trump a lot of tape that he used against him in ads. Let me jump to the story as we're talking about this race. We have this from scnr.com trump ordered to pay 83.3 million dollars in damages to e gene carroll our legal system is out of control and being used as a political weapon the former president said in response

now trump has repeatedly said he never met this woman many on social media have pointed out that her story about trump is the plot to an episode of law and order svu yeah did you hear that yeah no it was it was um it was similar to a plot that was in a in a law and order that's right i'm not saying she got it from there but awfully people are pointing out awfully coinkydinky isn't it and then we have this from nikki haley who tweets yeah donald trump wants to be the presumptive republican nominee and we're talking about 83 million dollars in damages we're not talking about fixing the border we're not talking about tackling inflation america can do better than donald trump and joe biden let me tell you

what nikki haley is doing here first donald trump issued a statement saying he does not want to be the presumptive nominee he wants to win legitimately and and And these primaries are actually good for him. So she's lying there. And then she is taking an attack from Democrats to use against the most popular Republican right now. This is disqualifying. She's a Democrat. She's got Democrat donors, Democrat voters. And she's using Democrat tactics to try and go after Donald Trump. And using Larry Elder's tagline.

For decades, I've been saying we've got a country to save. And I said it over and over again during the campaign. All of a sudden, Nikki Haley's been saying it. She's been ending her speeches with, we've got a country to save. Stole it from the great Elderski. I get no royalties. The great Elderski, I love it.

And if Donald Trump has to pay her $83 million, I should have sued the LA Times for defamation when I was called the blackface of white supremacy. What could I have gotten? Well, this is what's laughable. Nothing, because we live in the logic of Herbert McHugh. This is laughable. I should have sued the LA Times for defamation when I was called a blackface of white supremacy. What could I have gotten? Well, this is what's laughable. Nothing because we live in the logic of Herbert Marquis. This is laughable.

I actually tweeted something at Frank Luntz because he was talking about it. And I'm just like, anybody who works in media and journalism knows this is fake. And any journalist claiming otherwise is lying to you. Why? Every journalist knows Times v. Sullivan because every day you write about someone, it has you work. You work for L.A. Times. Oh, wait, sorry.

Work for L.A. Times anymore. You're the New York Times. When you're writing a story, it's got to get checked by legal. Legal has to the lawyer goes through and make sure you're not in violation. They all are aware of defamation and libel laws. And so here, Donald Trump is being told that pay 83 million dollars he's not allowed to say he didn't do it it's it's it's remarkable but trump said several times in court when he's going down this isn't this is not america and the scary thing is we are now in the in the world where

there is no law there's none there is only left and right jury pools and good luck and double standard you've got um uh navarro facing four months for defying a subpoena meanwhile eric holder was the first ag to be found in criminal contempt of congress for failing to to a supply to comply with a subpoena when he was required to turn over documents regarding fast and furious nothing happened to him no i mean there's a complete double standard even though i mean even in this case if you read the excerpt from eugene carroll's book where she accuses donald trump she says it was in maybe the summer or maybe the fall, but maybe the spring. She can't remember any of the details.

She says the dress is still hung in her closet. Like all of her allegations are ridiculous on their face. And he's never been tried in a criminal court. Right. He has just been put through civil trial. He's never he's never been allowed to defend himself. He's never never not and in fact he wasn't allowed to defend himself when he was president just speaking openly but she was allowed to make allegations with no basis there's a boat load of tweets that that the trump uh defense team wanted to submit that were incredibly graphic and called into question whether or not eugene carroll is the kind of person that would be considered

promiscuous or you know just really reliable um and they just said no we can't you can't put them into it's a complete double standard she was allowed to be treated in a way that donald trump was not allowed the problem and larry knows this just as well as anyone else and it's something that i harp on we live in the logic of herbert mark hughes we live in a society where one political opinion is acceptable to attack it is acceptable to uh to use the government against one group of people that have a certain political opinion it is acceptable to be violent against them it's acceptable to hit them it's acceptable to take their property you don't think that that's the case that may have been 10 years ago but since the since the culture war expanded the point where we're at now with like bud light

i think it's now clear that institutions have no problem espousing the ideology of their side the issue with this is that donald trump was sued in new york city where it is a stronghold of communists jurisdiction does so yes fair enough donald trump should sue in west virginia where 86 of west virginians are huge trump fans and the jury pool would be like we are impartial and trump should sue her for defamation in west virginia the question is why does he not if trump went to west virginia and said oh i got a house here i i'm suing her here he'd win in two seconds he'd win 83.3 million dollars in fact he'd win simply because i guarantee you you you you

you poll 100 west virginians about this and they're gonna be pissed off not everybody's gonna know about it don't get me wrong but if they know they're gonna be like they're doing what to donald trump in fact you go to the wet you go to Western Maryland. Okay, Maryland, which is, you know, Baltimore has basically got its boot on it. And we went to a diner and they had flags of Donald Trump riding a tank, standing in a tank with fireworks exploding and him holding like an Uzi. There's one of him on a velociraptor. And I'm like, these people love Donald Trump. Donald, sue her back and do it here. And sue her for defaming you for claiming falsely.

How amazing would it be? You could even do it in the middle of California. I talk about this in my book. I travel up and down the state. There are large portions of that state where they love Donald Trump. I'm driving. I see big Trump signs. The farmers love him.

People in the middle of the state adore him. It's people in the Bay Area, in San and in L.A. They're the problem. This is what we need right now. We need Donald Trump to sue E. Jean Carroll in West Virginia so that we get a default verdict. Same as as however it is, his cases are going down where they say it was false and defamatory that she claimed Trump assaulted her and that she has to pay him because of it so then new york says no trump did and then west says no she lied and then there you go the the issue right now what you're bringing up phil is that it's true in the sense that if you are that it's true that democrats and their institutions have no problem breaking the rules and doing these things the only issue is i don't see trump filing a lawsuit like trump could just choose to do it he's not yeah i'm not doing it i

have no no qualm with what you're saying and i agree the solution to this stuff is lawfare you know it it is to do bring as many lawsuits against any politician any organization that's left leaning anything that you can come up with. But do you think that meant he would have had to sue E.G. and Carol in 2019 when she first released this book? I have no idea. Because, I mean, theoretically,

that would have been the first way to set precedent. Who cares? He would have been the president and they would have freaked out. But it doesn't matter because what we're clearly seeing here is lawfare.

The trial against Trump for fraud in New York is clearly false. These claims are ridiculous on their face. So they're gonna i mean look they they created a new law where women could bring up old cases and sue over it or something like this so that they could uh which case was that was it was it eugene carroll where she could claim that because i think this is a defamation this was not related to sexual assault or i'm not talking about her lobbying to change the laws and there was a law that said we're going to

introduce a one-year window where people can sue over sexual assault. I think it was going after Harvey Weinstein. Right, okay. That was for Weinstein. If they're going to play this game

and all that really matters is a judge is going to determine for some reason or another Trump is not allowed to defend himself. So let's look at the fraud case. The judge ruled in default. He said,

no, Trump committed fraud. End of story. Have a nice day. You can't defend yourself. They just bang the gavel. The judge ruled in default. He said, no, Trump committed fraud. End of story. Have a nice day. You can't defend yourself. They just bang the gavel. It's done. Okay, well, Trump, go to West Virginia and find someone who'll do the exact same thing in the other direction.

There we go. It's the only way it's going to change. Or the only moves we can make. And there are a bunch of Republican AGs who also could figure out all sorts of ways to sue Democrats for this, that, and the other. That's another thing that's maddening is there's plenty of Republican AGs. They should be inundating Democrat politicians for anything. It should be no holds barred lawfare, just as much litigation as possible.

This is the way they want it? Give it to them. You know, there's so many double standards. One of them is this election denier stuff hillary for four years referred to donald trump as illegitimate said the election was stolen uh the did you see just the other day when biden said that the governor no governor of uh yeah virginia was a real governor yeah and you had the uh the race in georgia um stacy, what's her last name? Abrams.

Yeah. Stacey Abrams claims that she lost because of voter fraud. Hillary, for four years, referred to Donald Trump as illegitimate. Four years. And the AG, a DHS secretary under Obama, Jay Johnson, testified under oath, not a single vote tally was changed by the Russians. They tried, but they failed to change a single vote tally. 66% of Democrats, according to a YouGov poll, believe the Russians changed vote tallies to get Donald Trump elected.

Jimmy Carter said it. Yeah. Imagine a president saying that election was stolen. It is indescribable to try and explain to people what it's like trying to to make people understand that that the idea that like the conservatives are living in a fantasy world and you hear the the rhetoric coming out of the out of like msnbc and and cbs and all the the the you know the the standard narrative producing uh organizations smear merchants and whenever and whenever i've said this people push back and go well hillary didn't file a lawsuit. Yes, she did.

She joined the lawsuit that Jill Stein filed against Wisconsin and filed a separate motion to have the recount done by hand. Well, Hillary didn't storm the Capitol on January 6th because she wasn't president. But Donald Trump got elected

in November. There were 40 cities where there were protests, including violent protests. Police cars set on fire. In D.C., hundreds were arrested. And get this, not only were there hundreds of people setting fires, smashing things.

That was at the inauguration. At the inauguration. Yeah. The city actually paid the rioters. Yeah. The city paid the rioters out. Yeah. There were two or three hundred of them, as I recall.

But I'm talking about when Donald Trump got elected. There were 40 cities where there were violent protests all over, including setting fire to police stations. My point is, had Hillary been president and the shoe were on the other foot, and the election was this questionable, you're telling me that her supporters would have said, oh, well, let's rub some dirt on it, we'll get back to it.

So you're saying Barack Obama engaged in insurrection? Barack Obama waged insurrection. In what way? Well, he was president when all of his supporters went out and started burning things down, so that clearly means Barack Obama... Yeah, from his rhetoric. Because don't recall donald trump saying to be violent or stormed anything in fact i recall trump saying the opposite yeah and he said he said i want you to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard kamala harris said that that the people that

were out in the streets should be she that verbatim and they should be they're not gonna she was saying they're not gonna stop they're not gonna stop they'reim. And they should be. She was saying, they're not going to stop. They're not going to stop. They're out there and they should be. But why do you think people forget these things? Like all of these details get... You're talking about the BLM riots? Yeah. I don't think they forget. I think the issue is Democrats don't know and don't care.

I'm going to use Marianne Williamson as a good example. I heard she just dropped out recently too uh i don't know did she i think i think she may have you want to check but um marion williamson is a lovely woman she's very nice she's very smart but she's unfortunately living in wawa world where she wants the department of peace doesn't she well yeah when when when we had her here and we said here is a bad thing that is happening she she goes, oh, my, that is so bad. I say, here's another bad thing we're concerned about. She goes, wow, I didn't know that was happening.

Wow. When you show her, hey, here's news. Like, for example, there's a book called Not My Idea, which is being given to children in public schools, where it depicts white people, a white person as a devil, offering you a whiteness contract. She nearly cried when she saw it. The issue with Marianne Williamson and many default liberals is they are they are being manipulated by demonic i mean that figuratively some might mean it literally propagandists and they're not aware of what's going on now you said why don't people do people forget or not remember all of us remember all of it she's still in she's still in oh okay i apologize uh all of us remember all of this stuff, and we talk about it all the time,

and we'll be on the show, and it's always like, remember when this happened? Remember when that happened? It's that people like Marianne and her followers are never exposed to it in the first place. Regarding the George Floyd slash BLM riots starting in May of 2020, four months long, they're in the streets because of an assumption that what happened to George Floyd had to do with his race. The lead prosecutor was a black man. Opening statement, I'm a lawyer. The most important part of a trial is the opening statement. In his opening statement, he took pains to say, police in general are not on trial. The Minneapolis PD in general is not on trial. This individual is on trial. In fact, he said the police are doing a good job. They have to

make split decisions, life and death, in a very short period of time. This individual is on trial for what he did or what he didn't do, and he was never even charged with a hate crime. Yet most people are out in the streets because of the assumption that what happened to George Floyd had to do with his race. There's a website called policemag.com, my last point, and people who are self-described as very liberal were asked, how many unarmed black men did the police kill in 2019? 50% of the self-described very liberal people

thought the police killed 1,000 unarmed black men in 2019. 8% thought they killed 10,000. Wow. What did the regular self-described liberal people think? 39% of them thought the police killed 1,000 unarmed black men in 2019.

5% thought they killed 10,000. The answer, according to the Washington Post database, was 12. That's the gap between what they think is going on and the reality. No wonder you're out on the street. I'd be out on the street if I thought the police killed 10,000. The answer, according to the Washington Post database, was 12. That's the gap between what they think is going on and the reality. No wonder you're out

in the street. I'd be out in the street if I thought the police killed 10,000 black men and all black men every day. I think Ben Shapiro said the same thing. He was like, man,

I think Ben was like, I would be protesting with you if I thought the police were doing this. They're clueless. And again, the point is that the lead prosecutor of black men

never even implied that what Derek Chauvin did had anything to do with george floyd's race there's a man on the street video where someone uses that data and asks you know young black students out of college how many you know black men are shot every year and they're shocked when they find the number is 12 but there's one guy in particular who argues with him he's like really only 12 why don't we say why don't we say like 100 he's like no we can't say 100 the number is 12 and it's like this thing where the can't say 100. The number is 12.

We'll round it up to 100. And it's like this thing where the guy just cannot accept it, so he asks to compromise on the number. But the number is- And we had, by the way, unarmed does not mean not dangerous. Yeah.

Michael Brown was unarmed, but he had just done a strong arm robbery. His DNA was found on the officer's gun. So it does not mean you're perceived as dangerous. Remember a few years ago, that guy named Amadou Diallo, immigrant, was cornered

because he fit the description. Police said, show your hands, show your hands. He goes and reaches into his wallet and they thought he was reaching for a gun. They blew him away. Hillary called these four officers murderers.

A multi-ethnic jury found all four officers not guilty because the gesture was reasonably perceived as threatening. So just because you're not unarmed doesn't mean you're not dangerous. So even the number 12 is probably even smaller than that. we have had conservatives come on this show

and i have talked about the ahmed arbery case and they did not know the details of this case they still thought it was a guy jogging right you had when the mcmichaels were convicted and i forgot the other guy's name i should probably learn learn his name, to be honest. The guy who simply filmed it also went to prison. You had high profile prominent conservatives say something to the effect of, this proves conservatives aren't racist. As if to imply, this time

with Ahmaud Arbery, it actually was a racist attack. When in reality, the issue at hand, found in the court, was not whether or not there was a hate crime committed. It was whether or not, while we all agree, Ahmaud Arbery was in the act of committing a felony. The question is, did the McMichaels have a right to stop him? And the jury found the McMichaels did not have a right to stop the man who we believe was committing a felony because they did not witness the felony themselves.

So any subsequent action was their responsibility. Ahmaud Arbery confronting them, trying to grab the shotgun from, I believe it's Travis McMichael. The shotgun goes off a couple times in the fight. Ahmaud Arbery takes it to the chest and dies. They are criminally responsible because they should not have. And fair point. They are criminally responsible because they should not have. And fair point, they were told not to.

However, I've had conservatives come on the show and say, oh, it wasn't those white guys chasing down a black guy who was jogging? And I'm like, my friend, did you read the story?

But the jogging story got told over and over. It was the headline. He might have been jogging, da-da-da, like all the time. It's William Bryan is the man who videotaped.

William Bryan. Despite the fact that police had evidence of him burglarizing a home, that the police had gone door to door and say, this is the man who videotaped. William Bryan. Despite the fact that police had evidence of him burglarizing a home, that the police had gone door to door and say, this is the guy we believe is burglarizing the home, and that a gun had been stolen. So when someone said, hey, it's that guy again, the McMichaels got in their car and chased after him, called the police. The police said, do not follow.

They should not have followed. But many people argue the morality of if your neighborhood is being effectively terrorized by this repeat burglar and even someone who even stole a gun, you're going to want to stop it. There's a moral issue there. So the question ultimately became and the jury decided wrong. The law states that if a misdemeanor is committed and you witness it, you have a right to citizen's arrest. However, if a felony is committed and you do not need to be a witness, simply someone could say that person committed a felony, stop them. However, because of the way the law was written in a very archaic fashion, the judge said to the jury, you decide whether or not they needed to be witnesses or not. And the jury said they should have been witnesses. Therefore, they're criminally responsible for

the death. Tim, but the big thing is this became a national story, a national narrative. LeBron James tweets that black people are afraid to leave their homes when, in fact, it is rare for a white person to kill a black person. Anytime. It is rare. There are about 20,000 homicides every year. Most homicide is same race homicide. Most blacks who are murdered are murdered by the blacks. Most whites were murdered or murdered by their other whites. However, every year, there are roughly 750 interracial black-white homicides. 500 white people killed by blacks, even though blacks are just 13% of the population. 250 whites killed by blacks, even though blacks,

250 blacks killed by whites, even though whites are 60% of the population. It is very, very rare for it to happen. That's homicide. Let's talk about violent crime between blacks and whites. Roughly 600,000 such instances every year. By that, I'm talking about attempted murder, manslaughter, rape, assault with a weapon, aggravated assault. 600,000 every single year. 85 to 90% is a black perp white victim. Only 10% the other way around. So if anybody has a grievance, it ought to be white people.

Because the numbers overwhelmingly show that they are more likely to be victims ought to be white people. Because the numbers overwhelmingly show that they are more likely to be victims of crime by black people than the other world. But here's the real grievance. It is white people who hate white people. I feel guilty or who knows. We would describe it as out-group preference. This was the survey that went viral several years ago.

White liberals are the only demographic with a racial outgroup preference so uh it's it so black people have a slight bias towards black people latinos towards latinos asians towards asians white conservatives towards white people liberals against white people so i don't i don't think the issue actually is that uh they have a grievance about white on black crime. I think that white liberals generally just don't like white people. And so if anything interrupts their narrative about white people,

that's when they go on the offensive. So for example, Asians don't fit the narrative of white privilege. So Asians don't get included in their benefits package of how we got to help minorities. So it's really just white people are bad, have a nice day. Well, I phrased it somewhat differently. I said, whoever said compound interest is the greatest force in the universe.

And by the way, I checked, it wasn't Einstein who said it. Whoever said compound interest is the greatest force in the universe never encountered white guilt. I just think there's a whole bunch of white people that feel really, really bad about slavery, really, really bad about Jim Crow, really, really bad about how black people used to be treated. And this is their way of making up. I hear you.

And I can understand that. But I kind of think they're just white supremacists. And I mean that in the literal sense. We saw that Yale study we love to cite where white liberals speak down to black people. And white conservatives don't. White conservatives meet a black guy, they talk to him like normal.

White liberals, they dumb themselves down. What up, guys? What up? But not even that. they use second grade vocabulary like the these people in my mind i don't think they have white guilt i think they have a white superiority complex where they they imagine them going like well we're so much better than they are they need our help that's but i'll give you a quick example it's white man's burden right so i met uh these activists when i was in north dakota at the no dakota access pipeline protest and i'm there to document stuff but of course it's all leftist protesters who are very you know woke and i'm sitting down for dinner because i'm friends of

friends and we get into a conversation this one guy brings up you know so what happens is i said i gotta leave tomorrow because i have to drive to california i have a meeting in the morning at nine in the morning in three days so i gotta drive overnight and he said and he smirks and says a meeting at 9 a.m he's like that's colonial thinking and i asked him what is colonial thinking what i have a meeting and he's like it's colonial thinking dude like having a schedule to wake up you think the native americans do that they wake up when they need to wake up they wake up when the sun comes up and i was like native white people didn't invent time or scheduling dude and he was like yeah they did it was the colonists who brought all that stuff and

i was like bro people in asia have time and can track the hours of the day and decide we should meet at a certain point of the day and he goes no it's it was white people who brought that and i was like my dude the chinese invented compasses 1000 years before you did and he goes no it's it's white europeans who brought all that stuff to china and i'm like holy crap this guy literally thinks white europeans invented everything developed science technology and then exported that to asia and i'm like is this true china invented compasses a thousand years before europeans did i don't hold that against or in i don't say wow asia you're so great or europe you're so dumb it's just a thing that happened but these people believe white

people invented everything they're just white supremacists they invented it to oppress other people that's the other part to benefit themselves and to make it harder for everyone else to exist they make the compass to control direction so yeah yeah they invented racism they invented gravity to keep us all down i mean like white people are out of control that's a joke but like when it comes to like races they could they have part of the theory is white people created racism in order to oppress other races. Have you seen that video that Ami Horowitz did regarding voter ID?

Oh, it's a classic. Oh my. They ask all these college students, you know, why is it that black people can't get voter ID? Well, they just, they don't have access to the internet.

So he goes to Harlem. He says, he asks them, do you think a black person would not be able to get an ID or whatever? And they all say they couldn't. Yeah, they couldn't.

They don't have access to computers. Unreal. They can't find the DMV. So they go to Harlem. Do you have an ID? Yeah, I got an ID. You know what the DMV is? Of course I do.

Do you know anybody who has it? I don't know anybody who doesn't have an ID. My favorite, my favorite. I have to bring up my favorite. My favorite is one of the excuses the Berkeley my favorite is they one of the one of the excuses the berkeley kids give is they have trouble finding the dmv right and so he meets this like older black guy and he's like can i ask you a question he's like yeah and he's like do you know the dmv is and he was oh yeah just go up here on 25th he's giving him directions like it's a normal

question that's the thing it's like it's like and one woman woman was told that a lot of people don't think you can get ID. Yeah. And she said, who thinks that? And he said, you think that's racist? She said, yeah, kind of. There's this thing that goes on in like the critical social justice movement and stuff is they want to think about their blackness first. And it's like they forget that they're people. It's like these are normal people things to do. Finding out where in the city a building is is not some massive challenge.

The idea that a whole entire race can't find an address. It's so offensive. I think about what these Berkeley kids must think of the average intellect of a black person who can't figure out what a building is a few blocks away. I mean, that is a white supremacist idea. People could not find a building. I'm on the campaign. I announced before Tim Scott did. Tim Scott announces.

I get a phone call from a reporter. You and Tim Scott are both black Republicans. What distinguishes you from Tim Scott are both black Republicans what distinguishes you from Tim Scott I said I said in 2016 when Donald Trump announced that you say you are both white Republicans what distinguishes you

from Jeb Bush and she was quiet for 15 seconds she said point made but she's not sorry she asked she said point made but she's gonna ask it again

she was through the question so I didn't I mean what distinguishes you from Tim Scott I would have trolled her relentlessly like i would have just started i said i'm better looking no i mean i would just start i would just say a bunch of like self-deprecating racist things like is that what you wanted to hear it's ridiculous no it's crazy but i do think that

they ultimately race as as at the forefront of a progressive mind always and they are always because they are all, I think whether it's they hate themselves because they're- It's by design. It's whatever it is, they ultimately use that to say, well, everything I've heard that is a stereotype

about another race that could potentially be perceived negatively, I have to make sure I'm on guard against it at all times. Which is way worse. What you're describing is the result of people being taught critical race theory. Critical race theory in and of itself is not ideas. Critical race theory is a way to approach the world.

It is seeing race before anything else. So when we were arguing, oh, we don't want to teach kids critical race theory, we weren't arguing, oh, you don't want kids to know history or know that there are different types of people, different color people in America or whatever it is. We don't want people to have the illiberal view that race comes before the human being. I got it. I got to read this super chat from Jason Hutchison.

Cause he makes a really good point. Black people work at the DMV, but they get lost all the time. Dude, these Berkeley college kids aren't that racist. If you're black and you get hired at the DMV, you have to ask for directions every day. I make this point in my book.

I was in Boston in 2004 when this guy with funny ears, skinny guy, whose name nobody could pronounce, came out and gave the intro speech for John Kerry. And Barack Obama said, there's no blue America, there's no red America, people went nuts. There's no black America, there's no red America, people went nuts.

There's no black America, there's no white America, people went nuts. He decided to run for president. He's on 60 Minutes. He was not yet the front runner, but he's catching Hillary. And the correspondent said, Senator, if you don't win, will it be because of race? And I sat back and I said, let's see what this guy says. He's going to give some sort of victocrat answer

the way Al Sharpton did when he ran and lost and claimed it was racism, or Jesse Jackson ran twice and lost and said it was racism. Senator Obama said, no. If I don't win, it will be because I have not articulated a view that the American people can embrace. He also gave a speech at a black church when he was running. He talked about how much racism he thought was still in America. And he said, the Moses generation, referring to the generation of Martin Luther King, the Moses generation has gotten us 90% of the way there My generation the Joshua generation has to get us that additional 10%

Which I thought Phil was reasonable because there was a Fox opinion poll 2002 8% of Americans believe Elvis is still alive Yeah, 6% believe you send him a letter. He'll get it. So it's a person You got a wipeout. So basically what he's saying we have 2% to work on he gets elected Both polls show that blacks and whites thought race relations would improve. When he left, both blacks and whites thought they got worse. Why? For eight years, this dude played the race card time and time and time again. From the Cambridge Police Act stupidly, Trayvon Martin, he invoked Black Lives Matter.

He talked about Ferguson at a UN speech. He gave an interview to a podcaster and said, racism is in America's DNA. This is what communists do. And then then he brought in al sharpen over 70 times what happened to the guy that i saw in boston yeah that's what communists do do you think was he lying well they're intentionally lying at the time if barack obama is is is actually a marxist or does not have a liberal worldview then he it's completely within reason to think that he was lying because those ideologies are intentionally subversive they will lie he has to have been lying because what he said is just the opposite of what he ran on the guy that America

thought they hired even people didn't vote for him were crying because they said we've reached a threshold here yeah in 1964 MLK gives a speech before British television. And he said, I'm amazed. This is right after the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 64. He said, I'm amazed at the progress America's made in the last couple of years. Why? In 40 years' time, we could have a black president. Almost on cue, Barack Obama.

He didn't say in 40 years' time, there'll be black CEOs of Fortune 500 companies, and there have been. He didn't say in 40 years' time, there'll be black presidents of Ivy League universities, and there are. He didn't say the three biggest cities would all have black mayors, L.A., New York, Chicago. And they do. He said president, meaning once it happens, it's done. It's done. And now people act like it never even happened. This is the only majority white country that's ever elected, let alone reelected a black president. Only majority white countries had a secretary of state is black. We had back to back black secretaries of state. Secretary of Defense is black. I mean, knock it off.

The two most prestigious professions in America are powerful anyway, are doctors and lawyers. The AMA is the biggest trade association of doctors. We've had two black presidents of the AMA. There's been a black president of the ABA. What more do you need to say in order to prove that for the most part,

if you go to school invest in yourself avoid the criminal justice system don't make bad moral mistakes you'll be fine in america no matter what race you are what more needs to be needs to happen in order for us to say that i think sane rational people who pay attention to what's going on in the world understand and the people who live in the msnbc cnn bubble are staring at the screen while drooling i think you're right but the problem is those people are so numerous and or they're numerous enough that when combined with the malicious they probably make a majority of americans between dumb and actually malicious looking to use these things for power that's probably enough to think about msnbc this is a

network that gave a show to Al Sharpton. He has a show every weekend. This is a guy who became famous by falsely accusing a white man of raping Tawana Brawley. They have him on tape agreeing to sell cocaine. He did the Freddy's Fashion Mart thing. He was in the head in the middle of the 1991 Crown Heights riots that one Jewish leader called the most serious pogrom in the history of America. He's made disparaging remarks about Jews, about gays, and he has a show every week on MSNBC and is perceived to be a Democrat kingmaker.

All these Democrats who ran for president went to Harlem and kissed his ring. It's amazing. Stunning. Can you imagine David Duke having a show on Fox? What we would say? Yeah. It would never happen, right? Of course it would never happen.

But Al Sharpton... It should never happen. Right. And Sharpton shouldn't have a show either. Sharpton should definitely not have a show. Oh my goodness. And he is extremely divisive and encourages racial tensions wherever he goes.

I mean, that's how he makes his money, right? He was at the streets of Ferguson before one moment of testimony had been taken and the officer was found completely exonerated that shot and killed Michael brown and there he's in the streets no justice no peace no justice are you kidding me yeah they still say they still say he delivered the um eulogy at jordan neely the performer in new york who was in the chokehold he immediately was like well i'll deliver the eulogy because this was definitely a racial thing

never mind the fact that the guy had an arrest record and was people called in saying he's threatening people on the subway here's you know what i think i think new york wants to terrify people into fleeing because the only people willing to stay in a city that's going through what's going through are people who are going to vote democrat and so you bring in a bunch of illegal immigrants you increase your your your congressional uh seats and then you guarantee half the people you brought in well or half the people in your district can't vote because they're not citizens now all you need is 20 000 votes from these people no conservative opposition whatsoever you look at what's going on with uh you know uh

was it daniel penny in new york right because there's perry as well in texas right and he's the one who held uh right exactly and people. And people are like, I'm out. I don't want to live here anymore. And they're like good riddance. Cause you were at risk of voting Republican. Yeah. I wanted you to go. That's interesting.

Yeah. My, my, my, uh, well, one of the guys that I'm in business with on the music side, like he's looking to get his family out of there.

He's a Jewish guy. He lives on long Island and he's got, you know, his kids go to a Jewish school and he's like, we are looking to get the hell out of here. And you know, he's a conspiracy, a fairly conservative guy, you know, and he's just like, I don't feel safe here.

And it's not worth taking a risk when you have a family, right? I mean, I think you've talked about this a little bit, the effect that fathers have on the family. I think having a family really changes the way people view the world. And that's one of the reasons that we have, we have a society that, or a government at least, that wants you to work, not have children, defer having children, don't get married. We take away people's ability to look at one another and say, hey, I have to do what I need to do to protect you and to invest in your future. Which is why Black Lives Matter is so offensive. On their website, they attack the nuclear family.

On their website. You know, Barack Obama wrote a book, which was very good, the first book, Dreams of My Father. It's all about the angst he felt because he didn't have his biological father in his life. Last time he saw his biological father, he was 10 years old. Al Sharpton. Al Sharpton had a nice middle class life until his father ran away with another woman. And then down to the hood he went.

Jesse Jackson was raised by a single mom who was impregnated by the married man who lived next door. And in South Carolina, where Jesse Jackson was raised, he was taunted by kids saying, Jesse ain't got no daddy, Jesse ain't got no daddy. Al Sharpton's mother was estranged from her father, had a boyfriend, took back up with the father briefly, got pregnant with Al Sharpton, and tried to abort him with a coat hanger. My point is, these are probably four of the most prominent so-called black leaders in America, all of whom either had no relationship with their own father or a bad one, yet they don't talk about it.

They don't talk about it, but they talk about a systemic racism. And it's never been less of a problem in America of racism than today. And they just demonize men for being men. That's one of the things that's... I would say you are correct 15 years ago, but with the rise of the woke left, racism is becoming a big problem. Yeah. But it's not the way they're describing it.

The perception of racism is becoming a big problem. No,'s not the way they're describing it the perception of racism they come with no no no the left has created segregated uh schooling programs in sacramento they had a white racial affinity group for students they they've been doing these d they do poc only and non-poc rooms dearborn michigan did this all the white people in one room so it is becoming a problem because of what the left is doing agreed yeah and if you are trained again if you are trained or if you are if you are educated in a way where the first thing that in every subject the first thing that's brought up is race somehow whether you're talking about geography or whether you're talking about math or whether you're talking about history whatever if if somehow all of the topics are tinged with racial discussion

you're going to be racist like that you are going to create racist people because there is going to be a certain percentage of the white people that hear oh all white people are bad that are going to resent it and that are going to push back and say well screw you i'm going to create a white affinity group and you'll end up with more people that are white supremacists, more Nazis. You'll end up with blacks and minorities that hate white people. Cause they're told, Hey,

all the white people, all your problems, these things, these are problems that we are creating for our society. We are making these problems ourself. We don't have to do this. And we're not, and we're not being honest about it.

Rasmussen is the only one that does this. He asked blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and whites. Of the four groups, which one is the most racist? White said blacks. Asians said blacks. Hispanics said blacks. Blacks said blacks. Wow.

Blacks are two and a half times more likely than non-black Gentiles to be anti-Semitic. We have a real problem in the black community with anti-Semitism and anti-white bigotry. Nobody talks about it. I want to get your thoughts on something because I've told this story on the show before. It's from Occupy Wall Street. And there was, we were all sitting around in the middle of the park. Across the street from Occupy was, I think it was a Burger King that people would use the bathroom in. And there was this black dude that we were all friends with said,

I'm gonna, I'll be right back guys. I'm gonna run to Burger King and hit the bathroom. This white guy goes, hey, when you're over there, can you grab me a double cheeseburger? And he goes, what? And he just walks off. And everyone was like, huh?

He comes back and he's like, do you see what happened, man? We were talking and I was like, what happened? He's like, tell me to ask me to get a cheeseburger for him. And I was like, oh, what do you mean? He's like, like, I'm his boy. Like, I'm going to get his food for him. And I was like, I think he's like telling me to ask me to get a cheeseburger for him and i was like oh what do you mean he's like like i'm his boy like i'm going to get his food for him and i was like i think he's your friend and he just wanted to see if you'd grab him a cheeseburger when you're over there's like no you don't understand dude you don't understand what it's like and what racism and how it works and he perceived that request yeah as racist yeah well maybe your friend was

hungry how racist of him but that's that's what i felt i was kind of like i mean when when i've been asked several times during occupy to like if i'm going over there grab a cheeseburger i've never assumed it was because of my race or my gender or anything about me i was just like my friend wanted a cheeseburger it's a normal response if someone says that to be like you know what i really kind of don't want to know either and like be like i feel uncomfortable here and i want to not be in this situation so i don't want to be around to listen to you explain to me what it's like to be asked to get a cheeseburger you know it makes it makes for an uncomfortable situation yeah it pushes people farther apart because they can't talk about like hey why did this upset you instead it's like i've clearly done something wrong so we're not going to talk about it the other person yeah doesn't

get to hear oh i just meant it like i would have done the same for you yeah you were just going to run an errand yeah it is my friend i just wanted to see if you were going over there you'd grab I'll pay you back I don't know right it's ultimately this yeah it's low trust and it inhibits communication I mean that's what all of this is about making it so that no one can actually say well I feel this way about something this is how I perceive this and feel like it is not someone trying to have a power grab and have uh influence over their life trying to oppress them in some way I have a friend that I grew up with but six blocks from my house I grew up in South Central both of us are black of course and he was the most gifted athlete that I've ever seen he was a

quarterback for a high school team he was the starting to guard on the basketball team he was the best pitcher in the baseball team he He picked up a tennis racket, never took a lesson, hit it against the back wall for two weeks, and then tried out and made the tennis team. He had a bad attitude, though. He would come late to practice, but he still got started because the coach wanted to win. So fast forward, I go away to college.

I go away to law school. I come back to visit him. He changed his name to a Muslim name. All of a sudden, the white man is oppressing him. And I said, dude, you and I went to the same schools, had the same teachers, took the same classes. How come the white man didn't stop me? Oh man, you've been indoctrinated. And he changed his name to a Muslim name. And I told him that the Muslim slave trade was probably more vicious and more nasty than the European slave trade. The rate of death for the black

slaves was higher. He said, oh, you're reading white historians. I said, Henry Louis Skip Gates is a white historian. He's the head of the black studies department at Harvard. This is how vicious this kind of stuff is. His mind was totally corrupted. We started yelling at each other, screaming at each other. I told him he was a victim, and I said, go look in the

effing mirror. Your problem is you. Until you man up you're always going to live like this not only does that steal happiness now it steals your your motivation to make your life in the future better right like not you're you're angry you're upset you feel like it's someone else's fault so that makes you feel like you can't do anything about it you're told you can't do anything about it there it's it's a it's a i mean it's to what you said and let's say yeah i mean yeah it ultimately says to him like you are dependent on the world around you there is no way for you to come up so you might as well submit to it and sort of cry out and protest as feebly as

you can and i think that must be a completely horrifying experience to go through on the other hand it is his mentality to change. Nothing can save him from himself. I got to tell you the great life lesson that poker brings. You know what that lesson is? It doesn't matter what cards you're dealt. It matters how you play them. 80% of winning poker hands are not the highest ranked hand.

So you can be given the dirt, but if you play it smart, you figure it out you can come out on top of everybody else you know Tim I don't play poker but I remember watching 60 minutes a guy named Phil Ivey he was black oh yeah yeah he's one of the best at the time was one maybe that maybe the best he was being asked by the correspondent who was black James Brown he said how does it are you how are you able to deal with your race as a poker player? And Phil said, poker, only color that matters in poker is green. And James Brown was taken aback by that.

Dodgers were in the World Series a few years ago, and Mookie Betts had done a game-winning home run or something like that, being interviewed by another black guy named Harold Carmichael, I think, on ESPN. Yo, yo, Mook, everybody's talking about this. You're the only black player in the World Series. When did you first realize that? And Mookie Blake said, uh, now?

You know what to say. Yeah, right. Phil Ivey's a legend. He's one of the best poker players. Now, how about this new coach for the New England Patri say. Yeah, right. Phil Ivey's a legend. He's one of the best poker players. Now, how about this new coach for the New England Patriots? Oh, God. Bobcraft, the owner,

has a press conference to introduce him and says, I hired him because he's the best. I look for the best. I hired him because he's the best. I'm from Massachusetts, so. Okay, so Gerard Mayo comes on.

He goes, well, you know, it's very important to have diversity in the locker room. And when people say, I don't see color what they really are saying is I can't see racism so I see color just the opposite

of what his boss just said hello is this thing on he just said you got hired because you're the best now you're saying

you got hired because of DEI you just undermined yourself the New England Patriots had a 20-year dominating uh dynasty and the main thing that everybody said every week was do your job that was the slogan every week that was on all the gear that's what that's what tom brady was saying tom brady didn't

get up there and talk about how great he was he was was just like, you know, everybody went out there. They did their job. Same Bill Belichick says the same thing. Do your job. And this guy's like, man, I can't do it.

I'm the wrong color. What the hell? And your boss just said the opposite. He just said the opposite. He just said, I hired you because you're the best. Now you're saying,

well, it's all about making sure there's diversity in the law. What? Also, I'm just going to say like, NFL doesn't really have a diversity problem

from what I understand. I mean, maybe on the coaching level is the argument, but that just going to say, like, NFL doesn't really have a diversity problem from what I understand. I mean, maybe on the coaching level is the argument, but that's not really been true for a long time. There's this, there's a viral TikTok video from, I think it's like

a young black woman. And I can't remember exactly what it was. I think she's a nurse. And she said, how to tell that you're the diversity hire. And then she's like,

they never invite you to meetings, but they keep asking you to do photo shoots for their brochures. But I, and she like holds it up something something like that i don't know but what you end up with with these policies and uh you know charlie kirk was talking about this you you you get people in high positions of these companies who will hire someone to put them in a closet somewhere figur figuratively, like just hire them,

shuffle them off, and then write down on your California DEI report, you've got 10% black people or whatever. And it's just like, they look at it, not as I'm going to hire this person for a job. They're looking at like, every year we have to spend X amount of dollars to satisfy our diversity requirements.

So they end up with people who just sit there. Or people who are not competent. And if they're not competent, then you have to lower your evaluation standards in order to justify why you hired them. In which case,

the product becomes inferior. The service becomes inferior. You're not helping anybody. We have a proposition in California in the 90s called 209, which made it illegal to use race as a factor for college admissions and for hiring and for contracting.

And all these left-wing people said, when you do this, blacks won't be able to get into UC Berkeley and UCLA because of race-based preferences being eliminated. And it is true. It got passed, and there were fewer blacks admitted into UC Berkeley and fewer blacks admitted into UCLA. However, they were admitted at UC Irvine, UC Riverside, the less competitive campuses, and were more likely to graduate on time without student debt, which shows you that the people that you thought were benefiting were in fact not being benefited. They were being hurt. And they tried to repeal this. They tried to repeal it. And even left-wing California, LA Times endorsed the repeal.

Even left-wing California kept it in. A friend of mine who was a celebrity was posting on Instagram in support of repealing this. And by the way, the repealing side outspent the non-repealing side 10 to 1 and still lost. So I had an interesting conversation with my very lefty Hollywood actress friend and posting on Instagram supporting the repealing of this, which would allow racial discrimination in public contracting, education, and a few other places. And I said to her i said uh what what percentage of you know california is white do you know the number probably about 40 45 percent 6.5 percent black um maybe another nine percent or so is uh is asian and then the rest are 40 40 percent and so i kind of got my good i was gonna say god am i good i mean especially

considering you were running yeah but uh i was, so you you're proposing that California make it. Legal for public contracting and schools to discriminate the basis of race. And she's like, yes. And I was like, and the largest racial demographic in California is white people. Yes. I said, do you think that all of these white people will just, and I said, do you think white people are racist? And she goes, yes. And I said, so you think the 40% of white people who have political, uh, who politically dominate certain areas, you think they'll decide after this law is repealed to be less racist? She's like, no. And I'm like, so is it possible

then in say a city where it is 80% white when they're having elections or when they're putting up public jobs or schooling, they put up signs saying whites only. She's like, yeah. And I'm like, why would you want that to be the case? And she didn't realize. I don't know. And I'm like, listen, how about we all just agree

we do not want anyone to judge or ban or anybody because of race and just pick the person they think should have the job shocking yeah chris matthews had a show on msnbc for a long time and one time in an unguarded moment he said you know most white ran down his leg yeah that's the same most white people would not vote for a white person if they thought he was racist he even said that yeah in California roughly it's about Maybe six percent or so percent black about nine or ten percent Asian and the rest split between whites and Hispanics So the police department exactly reflects the demographic of Los Angeles Yeah, when something goes down if the white cops shooting a black person or Hispanic

Same activists come out and start screaming systemic racism. So it didn't even matter. During the OJ Simpson case, the chief of police was a black man. We had back-to-back black police chiefs then. He did a study during the trial to find out if anybody did anything with the evidence, tampering it, found out nobody did anything wrong. Report came out, it didn't matter. Black police chief, didn't matter. I met this lefty black activist in New York 10 years ago, and he said something really interesting to me.

I asked him if he thought Donald Trump was racist. I was like, do you really think Trump is racist? He's like, oh, yeah, of course. And I was like, really? And he goes, yeah. And he's the least racist president we've ever had. And I was like, wait a minute. And he's like, oh, come on.

He's like, we've had presidents who've owned slaves. Trump is the least racist president we've ever had. And I was like, that's actually a really interesting point I mean if you want to say that like everybody has their own biases and there are people that are you know everyone like that are like more selective to their own people that are their own color that kind of stuff is is almost like self

evident to some degree like like people that's just kind of like you see people end up like they move to the same neighborhoods with people like them and you know it's that's just the way people are um but just and if you want to call that racism that might be might be everybody's under trump best economy ever for black people he expanded so-called enterprise zones to lower taxes and regulations in certain distressed areas to improve the economy for black people he supports school choice which is what the majority of black and brown people living in

the inner city support the democrat party does not but he does he secured the borders the person most hurt by by by illegal aliens are unskilled black people in the inner city you have to compete against them for jobs there was a study done by the civil rights commission a few years ago that said a million fewer blacks are working would otherwise be the case but for the presence of illegal aliens and illegal alien labor puts downward pressure to the tune of almost two thousand dollars per year on the salaries of people living in the inner city he pardoned jack johnson the first black heavyweight champion who was who was imprisoned for violating the so-called man act i.e he brought white women across state lines for sex whoa was thrown in jail for that

and ken burns a lefty and and Sylvester Stallone both lobbied George W. Bush and Barack Obama to pardon this guy. Neither of them did. Donald Trump did. Donald Trump commuted the sentence of a woman

named Alice Johnson who had a very long sentence in jail for, in prison for a nonviolent drug offense. And he signed

the First Step Act which allowed, turned out about 4,000 or 5,000 mostly black people to have their sentences reduced an average of 70 months per per prisoner if this dude is racist he needs to go back to racism school i mean where is in new york you know he needs to take some radio courses i think racism school is probably berkeley

but larry joe biden had the very first chief diversity and inclusion officer in the white house so obviously he's less racist. Clearly. You mentioned something. And speaking of Joe Biden, this guy has lied about his so-called civil rights record for decades. You know, I grew up in a black church. People in the black church there in question said we never saw him. I desegregated movie theaters and restaurants in Wilmington, Delaware.

Even the New York Times said there's no evidence at all and that his aides, quote, gently reminded him to stop saying it. Biden kept saying it anyway. I was with Andy Young. We tried to visit Nelson Mandela. We got arrested. Andy Young said, no, he didn't. He just makes stuff up constantly.

And it's almost impressive because it's getting more and more brazen all the time. Even though we have the internet, it's way easier to fact check. He's amazing. Remember his first wife and young daughter were tragically killed in a car accident. And Joe Biden said the man who drove the truck that killed my wife and my daughter was drunk. And that wasn't true.

No evidence at all the man was drunk. Moreover, the evidence suggests that his wife was the one at fault. The man who investigated it at the time became a judge, and he said there's no evidence that this man was drunk. The man's daughter came to Joe Biden and said, would you please stop saying this? My father feels guilty as hell already. And Joe Biden said, you're right. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said it.

And said it again. Yeah. And at the time, he had so much media attention on him, right? He was the senator and he had these young children. He was just tragic. Like he knew he was ruining this person's life to make himself sound more sympathetic and did it again and again and again. I mean, that's true with all of this, right? He does things to make himself seem palatable, to make himself seem sympathetic to the cause that he's courting. So with all the stories about being a civil rights activist it's to say to minority people oh no i i help you and i see your causes but he doesn't actually do anything he puts in this uh chief diversity officer this is

i was on my mind because this person resigned today after three years on the job just to say look i am the most diverse person i am the person who encourages the uh uh diverse hiring in the white house no one did this before me and it's so if he doesn't win the election when trump is re-elected for him to say well trump doesn't have a chief diversity officer even though i specifically created this and hannah he goes on charlamagne the god and says you ain't really black unless you know whether you want to vote for me or vote for donald trump this is who does that it's crazy it's the most arrogant and to me racist thing of all time.

Because what he's saying is I don't actually care about anything that affects you. I just want you to be dumb enough to vote for me on nothing. The policies that the left wants don't do what the left says the policies will do. So right off the bat, if you're arguing for leftist policies, you are lying. Yes, but if you're Joe Biden, you're not only arguing for bad policies, you're just making stuff up, right? Well, yeah, he does. But the economic policies that the left wants, they produce poverty. They disincentivize enterprise.

They disincentivize people from working i i was going to read a note but i gotta i gotta comment now because there's there was there's a viral clip of this guy named uh professor richard wolf who has to be one of the most disingenuous or stupid professors we i've ever had the displeasure of having to listen to and he has this viral lecture he does people were retweeting it it you know was getting hundreds of views and said this is required learning for every school. What does he say? He does this bit where he goes, if you're going to be hired by an employer, let's say you negotiate whatever. And he says, I'll pay you $20 an hour. You have to produce more than $20 of value per hour in order for him to hire you so at the end of the day if you feel like you're being ripped off it's because you are and it's just like a five-year-old came up with this yeah a five-year-old came up with the idea that so so i did i earlier today i recorded like a half an hour breakdown of

just everything wrong with it and it's funny because i'm probably like my audience the people who watch my clips in the morning probably know even more about it than I do because they run businesses and they have jobs. But I was like, let's invert this. Let's invert the proposition brought up by this Marxist professor because he cites Karl Marx in his argument. A guy, let's say Phil wants to hire Kellen. Kellen is going to produce widgets. So Phil says, you make widgets for me. I pay 20 bucks an hour. Kellen says I can make one widget per hour. Phil says, you make widgets for me, I pay 20 bucks an hour. Callan says, I can make

one widget per hour. Phil says, okay. Phil then has to pay the taxes, manage the business, source the materials for the widget production, and then figure out how to sell the widget. So Phil does all of that. Phil ends up getting paid $5. He sells the widget for $25. So that extra $5 value goes in his pocket for what he's doing let's invert the proposition my response to this guy would be i got an idea if someone if i wanted to hire someone to make uh uh you know widgets let's say skateboards and they said i can make one skateboard per hour for 50 bucks i but but i know that you're going to get ten dollars extra in my labor because I'm a Marxist who listens

to this lefty guy. So I refuse. I'm worth more than that. I say, okay, let's make a different deal. You make the skateboard and then pay me to sell them. How much do you want to pay me to do your sales? What do you mean? How much are you going to pay me to do the sales work for you?

So now you pick up the managerial stuff. You pick up the regulatory work. You pick up insurance or whatever it is you need. You source the materials. You pay for all that. now you pick up the managerial stuff, you pick up the regulatory work, you pick up insurance or whatever it is you need, you source the materials, you pay for all that. Then you bring me the skateboard, I will sell it for you and I'll take 20% of the sales.

You get to own the means of production. Congratulations. The only issue at hand with the proposition of an employer, an employee is, who is accepting risk

and who is not? Because you could flip employer and employee in either direction and the only thing that matters is who assumes the risk. Guaranteeing a salary to someone to make a product means they don't got to think about it,

they don't got to worry about it, they get paid a flat rate, and they can go home and cash that check. But if Phil ends up paying for a hundred widgets and cannot sell them, he's bankrupt, he loses everything, and he can't buy dinner well that guy also loses his job that's true yeah eventually you got to make a profit

right but it's but it's it's laughable which is also why uh tim the the the minimum wage and and and people on the left love to jack it up hurts the very people who are unskilled because you're requiring somebody to pay for something you can can't do, you can't produce. And Milton Friedman said the minimum wage law is perhaps the most, quote, anti-Negro law in the statute books. Wow. At one time, a black teenager was more likely to be employed than a white teenager. Now in the inner city, you find 50% unemployment for people looking for jobs, largely because

the minimum wage has priced them out of competition. You're not able to produce $15 worth of stuff. So why should I pay you $15? You're not going to work. About six years ago, six or seven years ago, I had a meeting with an accountant to start picking up accounting work for us. And the company was much smaller, but I don't think they had any employees. So New Jersey had a law in the books where the minimum wage was increasing a set amount

over a period of time and he told me that they lost i think 30 of their customers in the latest minimum wage increase and uh he was like so obviously we as an accounting firm like we're we're actually taking a hit and we're gonna have to lay some people off the reason we lost 30 of our clients is because they went out of business overnight he's like what you got to understand is if they say they're increasing the hourly rate of select server staff from 10 to 11 an hour they want to do it slowly so they say you know 10 to 10 50 now it's going from 10 50 to 11 the people who are running these small diners the people who are who have you know you know a small restaurant or pizza place or it's you know maybe an antique store or something they're on razor thin margins in a tough economy and they're not paying themselves as much as they

pay out in labor one day the dial gets clicked over and now they have to find 30 more in wages so either they increase the prices which causes a customer shock they don't get as many customers in because the customers don't have the money to pay the increase. Overnight, he's like, within a span of a few months, one by one, they fall down like dominoes. And they say, thank you for everything you've done for us,

but we're closing the doors. There was a study about New Jersey and Pennsylvania. This is in the 90s. And one state raised the minimum wage, the other one didn't. So it gave you an ideal laboratory to find out what's going to happen. And according to these two professors, they're named for Card and Kruger,

the state that raised the minimum wage had an increase in jobs relative to the state that did not, which refuted probably years of study about the minimum wage. And so Bill Clinton and the other Democrats began touting this study because it justifies raising the minimum wage. However, other economists try to replicate the results. And instead of asking employers did you

raise uh did you hire people or not hire people they asked for payroll cards to confirm it and turned out the state that raised minimum wage lost jobs relative to the states that did not just the opposite of what the left-wing economists said and by the way just before you respond don't forget making an announcement right here in the tim pool show, the Timcast. I'm giving away free copies of As Goes California to everybody who opens up an Old Glory Bank account on which I am co-founder and member of the board of directors. Open an account on oldglorybank.com and when you get your Old Glory Bank debit card activated

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with uh was it okay i gotta make sure it's facts with ben right make sure because we just got the url f-a-c-t-TS yes like fact don't care about your feelings so it's factswithben.com and you click purchase you buy Tom McDonald and Ben Shapiro's new song Facts it's got a great message and Ben Shapiro is rapping in it Ben Shapiro in the past what did he say

rap wasn't music or something like that something like that he's a classically trained violinist and his twitter troll game has been A plus where he was like, thank you to my parents for sending me to a classical violin school for 15 years or whatever

so I could be the number one rapper in America. He's currently number one. Money well spent. He's number one on iTunes. Tom McDonald and Ben Shapiro are both number one on iTunes, which is in the world, I'm pretty sure. But let's be real.

iTunes is not the main place where everything's at. So while it is a good metric and it does beat out a lot of the industry because they've lost interest in being able, nobody will buy their music, so they just give up on it. We can still sell music this way. When you buy on Amazon or iTunes,

it's a dirty game, but it's the only way they actually track for the billboard charts. If by next Thursday at 11.59 PM, we can amass a large amount of sales for Tomic's on Adventure Pierrot I'm hoping we weren't we weren't able to pull off because they played I feel like we got shafted we did together again with the Daily Wire and they said our sales did not count because they changed the reporting metric so naturally this pisses me off this feels to me like an opportunity

for success and revenge because it's not our song. They're not paying us to promote it in any way. Anything you buy will go to likely Tom McDonald. But I would love, and I know many of you would, to see Ben Shapiro on the Billboard Hot 100 as one of the top rappers in the world. And it's possible if y'all go out and buy their song and want to spend that $1.29. And, you know, I hope you do if you can if you can't don't worry about it but you know i would love to see that i also would love to see my book get on the new york times best-selling list because on your show so please go to amazon or barnes and noble and order as goes california and let's get that on the new york times bestseller list shove it in their faces uh let's go let's go if

we can i would love to say wow larry got a number one near time but you do know it's editorial right like they play games i know they play games yeah yeah i mean but let's be real billboard does too like yeah tom made a video tom mcdonald made a video about it it seems like every time he's about to crack some major milestone they go oh who Oh, whoopsie. We can't, you know, for this reason. And so it is an uphill battle, but understand everybody, we are trying to storm the gates of the woke institutions and they're not happy about it. So they're trying to find every way imaginable to stop us.

But I just, I just would love to wake up not next week, Tuesday, but the following Tuesday when the billboard comes out and Ben Shapiro is one of the top rappers in the world on the hot 100, which is the, the list. That'll be amazing. I think there'll be number one sales. I think they, here's what I think is going to happen based on the size of Tom's audience, you know, us doing a push for it and Daily Wire. I think it's possible that Ben and Tom could reach number one on the hip hop charts. Hot 100 that's tough i do think if everybody you know who

watched our shows and their shows because this is this is a massive audience especially with tom i think it's possible they reach like 75 hot 100 wow but because at that point you need like 30 million streams and which is which is you're you're gonna need like um 50 to 100k sales tough tough tough tough hit. Number one, Hot 100. They would need, I think, probably like 500,000 sales. But I would just, man, I don't think it's going to happen, but Ben Shapiro getting a gold record for rapping,

that would just be amazing. Anyway, where were your super chats? Where were your super chats? Alright, here we go. Chris Lambert says, two days in a row, this news on Texas ain't going to be stopping anytime soon. Triple Flip says, en masse is pronounced en masse. Please, guys, please.

Well, okay. Here we go. I'm not your buddy, guy. He's returned. He says, can you hear that? Drums in the distance. Drums of war. Now it comes down to those with the temperament of a toddler and those who seek the west destruction versus those who refuse enslavement who shall win there was a story we

didn't get to but there's rumors that um private militia groups are making their way down to texas that's what i've heard and you know i can only say this i'm not going to tell anybody what they can or can't do in a free country where you're free to move around do whatever you want my opinion is anybody not involved in texas law enforcement who is not ordered by the their their uh superiors to be down there you stay away from it not for for safety's reasons but also i'm worried someone's gonna like get in the way of greg abbott at a very crucial moment not that greg abbott is a perfect guy. His record is not perfect. But, you know, imagine you've got the top athlete, you know, they're playing tennis. Don't run out on the court thinking you're going to help.

You may just jam things up. And right now, the most important thing for all of us is a legitimate legal resolution on the issue of the states having a right to defend its borders. What Greg Abbott is doing is within the law, what Joe Biden is doing is outside the law. If random people show up

and start getting in the way of Abbott, it muddies it and actually puts Texas in murkier territory. Let's take the legal high ground on this one because we're winning. But again, you know. But as I said at the beginning of your show, this is on Joe Biden.

Right. Joe Biden has caused all of this and hopefully there'll be no violence hopefully there'll be no civil unrest but it's on joe biden he caused this and did it on purpose there was a statement released by biden today or tonight uh while we're during the show about something that they have planned for the border but i didn't read the whole thing um so the real effing deal says what event do you think future historians will recall as the first step of the american civil war of the second american civil war well it's interesting it's very interesting because uh when you look at the history of the united states leading up to the

civil war it's it it's it's it's it could be reduced at infinitum uh in the 1820s there was discussion of civil war for the issue of slavery and nothing happened for 40 years some people might argue that the definitive moment was the election of abraham lincoln because uh several states seceded from the union before he was even inaugurated and so that secession led to fighting typically we think the war itself started with fort sumter but bleeding kansas had been happening for seven years prior, where you literally had abolitionist and pro-slavery forces going to these states and fighting because like literally killing each other because they wanted new slave territories or, you know, free states. I think it's fair to say that Bleeding Kansas was civil war. It's just not actual civil war in New

York or Maryland or, you know pennsylvania whatever not that went anything went to new york for instance but the idea that armed ideological factions from the north and the south were going to new territories and fighting over it is is that not a component of the civil war it's only that when it drew in all the other states were like this is when the civil war started so that being said if history if we're basing it off of what history currently goes by you would need an eagle pass it would need to be an eagle pass the moment when the federal government came there and said it's our jurisdiction back off the state said you are in violation of codified law no and then fort sumter was not a legitimate battle.

Nobody was trying to kill each other. Only one guy died and I think it was by an accident. Eagle Pass could be a moment where Border Patrol agents order National Guard to drop their weapons. The Border Patrol says, back up. No, you drop your weapons. And then we hear shots fired.

Nobody's injured. What would happen if National Guard or CP engage in a conflict where shots are fired, nobody knows who shot first, nobody gets injured, nobody dies? We'd say, wow, crisis averted. A hundred years later, they'd say the first battle of the Second Civil War, Eagle Pass, just like Fort Sumter. So I believe you would need an Eagle Pass type moment. And what we would look at is, all of the fighting we've seen in Portland and Washington, the Summer of Love riots, are effectively the Bleeding Kansas. The Stop Cop City riots, January 6th, people would refer to that as our civil strife period, much like Bleeding Kansas was. And Eagle Pass, I hope not, but something like Eagle Pass would be that shot heard around the world. The Constitution gives the government limited duties and powers and obligations.

One of them specifically is the borders, specifically is immigration. Question is, when the federal government is not doing its job on that issue, is it OK for the states affected to do to do it for them? And I think the answer is yes. but when they're not doing their job and they're not when congress is not stopping this and they're not it seems to me that the states have an obligation to defend their border and i and i like what would uh what the governor of texas is doing sn spartan makes an a very good point he says we are in schrodinger's civil war depending on what happens we're either in the Civil War or not. And it's completely right. If what happens in Eagle Pass dissolves with no...

There was talk, I was going to say, there was talk of a Senate deal on the border, which is basically Texas giving up. They're talking about thousands of people per day to be allowed in if this is the deal. So let's say everybody just chills out, pulls their people back, the border is secure, whatever,

no conflict, no crisis happens. Nobody's going to say a Civil War started. Everybody just chills out, pulls their people back. The border is secure or whatever. No conflict, no crisis happens. Nobody's going to say a civil war started. However, when we are finally at the point, hopefully not, but if we ever get to the point where there are National Guardsmen shooting at federal law enforcement, history will look back and say the civil war started a long time ago. Like Fort Sumter. This is the point that i was making even though we historically look back and say the civil war started at fort sumter the people still were at the battle of first battle of bull run thinking there was no civil war they were already in it they didn't know and so fair point if tomorrow joe biden says i hereby resign i'm'm done. I leave. I give up everything.

Kamala Harris fumbles and bumbles and then everything just stops. States start cleaning things up. The federal government stops doing everything. The DOJ stops going after Trump. Trump gets elected, comes in, cleans things up. No civil war ever happened. Nothing. That's an ideal scenario, I guess.

Yeah, it's like, what if no one died at Fort Sumter? You know, what would have happened? Well, nobody was killed in the battle. Well, it was an accident, right? Yeah, but that's like, if no one died at fort sumter you know what would have happened well nobody was killed in the battle well it was an accident right yeah but that's like we don't consider that like they weren't trying to kill each other they were just like hey you know and it wasn't until the battle of ball run they were like time to go uh joseph kush says putin just signed a decree in recognition of the republic of texas can someone fact check that because that sounds like it's not true it sounds like it's not true right but i definitely wanted to read that one and say like someone google that it actually sounds like something putin would do to troll america cain abel says while we are in civil war ii started by dems china will invade taiwan starting an official world war iii i think we are doomed to repeat everything again

i support texas i think there's a strong likelihood that uh our adversaries uh particularly the brics nations are fomenting civil war in this country so that when they make their moves, it prevents World War Three. When China moves on to Taiwan, there will not be a World War Three because the United States will be too busy fighting itself. And so they get their regional conflict. Venezuela gets their regional conflict. Iran gets their regional conflict. And all the regional conflicts are the world at war. But without U.S. intervention, it's not going to be as pronounced, it's not going to

be as widespread, and the US will eventually fall apart. Well, most people in Taiwan don't believe that the US is going to come to their support in the event that Taiwan is invaded anyway, because of the way Gavin Newsom pulled out, well, Gavin Newsom, the way Joe Biden pulled out of Afghanistan. And the thing about that, Tim, is not only did he pull out, not only did he leave $7 billion worth of military equipment, not only were 13 personnel service members killed and we left behind hundreds of Americans and Afghan collaborators, he publicly said, Joe Biden did, that nobody advised him that the Taliban would come back and the Afghan government would collapse. Two generals testified under oath. That's exactly the advice that he was given.

So if you're a friend or a foe of America, either our military is so incompetent they did not see this coming, or they gave Joe Biden competent advice and the commander-in-chief was so incompetent he didn't follow it. Either way, not good. I want to read this that just came in. I don't see anything under news about Putin. Probably not true.

R.A.. ginnick says former fed gs15 here i quit at 39 years old it is corrupt and i couldn't affect it no matter what i did how high i got nothing changed money wasted and citizens abused cbp should quit nazi camp guards just followed orders to bravo sir bravo sir for, you know, for for standing up and doing the right thing, man. Yeah, I think regardless of what CBP are saying, there's there's not going to be a circumstance where someone comes up to me in the street and says, oh, I'm with the CBP. I'm a big fan. I'm going to be like, you need to go make a statement like like you can't work for an organization doing this. Look, I'll make the point have people quit yes have they oh yeah yeah a lot of a lot of them have what percentage you have any i don't know

about any hard numbers we just heard anecdotes of people being like i'm not doing this and they're and they're quitting but some people are just staying and i know it's difficult i i don't care look people say oh tim says quit your job blah blah dude i'm saying if if they're doing things that like are destroying this country, I am not saying sacrifice your job if you're scared to say you support Trump. I'm saying you should say you support Trump because if everybody did, then there would be no concern, no fear, and they couldn't do anything about it. You don't need to lose your job over this. I'm just saying stand up for yourself, speak up for what you believe in. It's a nuanced position.

But if you're a human smuggler, dude, I just, well, I'm not a human smuggler dude i just well i'm not a human smuggler i just work for the i work up here i'm like guy your organization is smuggling humans if you're a cbp agent in west virginia understand that the resources you provide and the infrastructure around you facilitates that even in the slightest degree there was uh in ohio uh it was i believe ice brought a bunch of illegal immigrants to a police station and said we need these guys held temporarily so that we can then in the morning get transport to deport them and the sheriff was like you got it boss the next day ice was gone and they were just like what what is this we have a bunch of illegal immigrants sitting here so they released them right onto

the street of where they live i'm sorry man that's happening in california i talked about it in my book because it's a sanctuary state yep uh and they will not allow ice to take these people many of whom have come to the country several times illegally and have them deported i'll tell you i'll tell you this right now let's let's be reasonable as we can if you're a cbp agent you should be in protest to your superiors like what's going on i don't want to be party to this more importantly if you are at the border you should say hey man i'm not going to do that i'm not going to facilitate the smugglers the cartels are bringing people up for thousands of dollars and then the only way that's possible is because the cartel knows they can do a handoff with customs and border protection if there was no cbp there to accept them and the

policy was rejection the coyotes and the cartels would have no business at all because they'd be like yeah pay us we'll get you up to the border where there's a fence the national guard and you can't get in they'd be like i'm not paying you the cartel is making i think it was like a billion dollars off of the human smuggling it works both ways the cartels wouldn't offer it and also people wouldn't seek it out because they know the border is closed. One of the stats that always comes up is how many people on the FBI's most wanted, like the terrorist watch list, have come to the border.

And people will point out that far fewer came under Trump than those who've arrived under Biden. And it's because under Biden, they know they're much more likely to get in. That seems like an obvious show that no one takes our border security seriously.

If people who are on identified terrorists are like, I'll just risk it. I'll see if I can get through because they probably can. That is really bad. Well, when you're releasing people

into the interior and giving them a court date, it's a joke and they're not going to show up. It's a joke. Yeah. And asylum, 90% of them are here for jobs.

By definition, that does not make you eligible for asylum they just go to states where they can get driver's license and stuff like that and then just live essentially a normal life bs production says what happened to yesterday's episode 947 it is up in its full two hours and 20 minutes on rumble so go to rumble uh timcast irl subscribe to our rumble channel and uh it is there. To keep it simple, there are rules that are universal that apply to Rumble, YouTube, and X. Where if certain things that I can't repeat are said, then I've been told explicitly by people working at these companies, the show gets taken out, so I can't do about it.

And so these have to do with legal liability, criminal liability, and things like that. So in terms of last night's episode, it just got to that point. And then what we did was we put it to the members only. Why do we do that? It's fast, easy, it's already set up. And then once it's done, immediately the show is in full available on all podcast platforms and Rumble. And the offending issue is snipped out of the show. That's it. For the future, we're going to do what every other television station does when these things happen, and that's a dump a button. Fox News has it. CNN historically all have it. It's not really been an element of the podcasting world, but I will tell you, one of the

big reasons why a lot of your favorite podcasts stopped going live, started switching to either premieres or pre-recorded, was because of this issue that you can't control. People like people are hanging out. They're talking for a few hours. Someone says something off the cuff. They don't realize what they actually said. And there's nothing we can do about it. But with the dump button, click seven seconds deleted and no one, none's the wiser, right? So it's, it's, it's a shame. That's the world we live in. But unless you're hanging out in someone's house, there's no platform that can support certain things being said so i want to stress this

everybody was like you should stream on rumble i've already talked to rumble about it rumble said yeah we we have no choice but take you down if the same thing was said and i'm like i know right so we we did put the episode on rumble you can watch it there it is available and itunes spotify etc let's uh let's grab some more super chats guardsman norheim says richard wolf talks and his facial expressions mimic mimicking every disney villain it's very off-putting why would anyone trust someone who acts like that it's just it's really funny because he did this interview uh with abby martin and that so this is viral clip the audio is not normalized well but he reiterates his point in an interview with abby. And they're both just smirking.

And I'm like, I mean, come on, like Abby and him are smart people. There's no way you research the issue of economics and ignore the fact that most businesses are small. Even larger businesses, CEOs do a lot of work. It is this weird world where you have all of these leftists who genuinely believe ceos don't do anything i mean to be fair jack dorsey probably didn't do anything when he was ceo of twitter but the question then is like what's his compensation compensation and what value is providing to a system these people do not understand how difficult it is to pay right so the legality of let me put it this way i remember the first time

i was like wow i'm making a lot of money i'd like to give my mom stuff and my account's like oh that's illegal i was like what i was like i can't like you know give my mom no there's federal limit on how much you can money we can give someone per year and then you've got to pay extra money or income tax and stuff like oh okay okay well hold on we won't do that then it's called a gift tax gift tax and there's there's limits and uh okay but you could theoretically just give someone any amount of money but then it's all taxed and i'm like okay well so that is possible you can't just pay people uh you can't give anybody you want a job if if i hire someone i have to create a legitimate kind of like written out explanation of what their job is and why they're getting paid it has to be on record for our accounting why because rich people in the past have like hired their son and paid

them a lot of money and then the iris is like you're just trying to gift your kid money you can't do that so now we have to actually have on record in the event of an audit here's the person here's their job here's their expectation here their hours here's what they do it's wild and so these people these leftists think ceos literally do nothing don't get me wrong slumlords exist and there are corrupt people but the idea that because there's a corrupt individual and a criminal that means all of capitalism is bad is just you're being manipulated by crackpots like this richard wolf guy well you can give away your money but the recipient has to pay a gift tax. Right.

And it actually gets pretty exorbitant and then it becomes prohibitive. So my point there is- But it's your money. You can give it away. But let's clarify that. You cannot write a check to someone and say, here's money for you. The government goes, wait,

if you want to do that, I get a substantial portion of it. So the literal sense is, I cannot give a family member money. I have to ask the government for permission, ask the government how much of the money they get before the transaction is completed. So you can technically give a family member money so long as you pay the government 30%. Well, the reason, however, that most people have this attitude about people who run businesses and own them is that they never run a hot dog stand. Right. They never made a payroll.

Or a lemonade stand. They have no idea how difficult it is. I had a, we made Kool-Aid when I was like seven years old. My dad said, I'm going to give you 30 bucks so you can go get the materials you need to make Kool-Aid and go sell it at the baseball game, but you've got to pay me back my investment. And so me and my brother, we made this big, we had this picture, it was a pump.

We went around with little Dixie cups and we sold them for like a little bit of money. And we came back, we paid my dad back and we had money for candy. And that was, you know, my dad teaching me that stuff. Somebody once said that a CEO of a corporation

is like a duck on a pond, calm on the surface, but paddling like hell underneath. Yeah. Now I think it was Claudine Gay who said that. Oh, was it? No. Of course not. my point is here let's let's be as as as uh literal as possible it is not legal for you to

give a per a person money it is legal to give a person and the government money that's that's the reality of it unreal yeah right you have to? You have to. It's crazy they made the system they benefit from. But the government is not without grace. You are allowed, I think right now, I think the limit is

$15,000. So, no, you can't buy a house for a family member. That's not a real thing. You can buy a house for a family member

and give the government a third of the cost of the house. It's so gross. Right. So, like, let's put it this way. Let's say you wanted to buy a house for your mom

and it costs $250,000. You do that, your mom would have to pay the government 30 or whatever percent of the value of the house in taxes. So how could the family member actually accept a gift of that magnitude? They cannot. So while it is technically possible

for you to hand them a check, so you would have to calculate the cost of taxes and how it was to get to 250 write a check for that amount family member then pays the government their share of the gift you are giving a family member and then your family member can buy a house there you go welcome to uh why so many people think taxation is theft. That's one of the reasons why that player Otani got so much money because of the state income tax in California, 13.3%. Oh, that's right. Highest state income tax in the country. 1% of it is a millionaire's tax for mental illness.

So 13.3%, highest state income tax in the country. And New York City has the highest taxation in the country, but only because New York City itself has an income tax. So you've got state, city, and federal if you live in New York City. So what happens is a bunch of ultra-rich New Yorkers try to spend half the year in Florida. New York started going after them. Now, here's a secret. If you're super wealthy, you spend half the year in Puerto Rico. Then you pay no income tax, no federal income tax. And that's intentional intentional and it better be a half a year because they check that yes they do yeah one day one day the wrong way you're in trouble and it's

intentional though they want you down there spending money to help build up the infrastructure in the economy of puerto rico so they're saying hey look we're gonna we're gonna tell you this you you're you're a millionaire you're gonna spend a million bucks a year in taxes keep it but you gotta live in puerto rico six six months and one day because then you're going to be spending that money in Puerto Rico and that's why we're letting you keep it. So taxation, they use as a way to manipulate and social engineer. That's why they put a tax on cigarettes. They put a tax on gas.

They put a tax on soda pop. They want to manipulate your behavior. And I think that is unconstitutional. And they want to raise money for that crazy bureaucracy that they have. All these government workers who are being overpaid paying more than they would get

a private sector in a similar job they gotta pay for alright Trish Berry says it's my son Wes's birthday he got me watching the show born in 97 Gen Z son with boomer mom

members and cast brew drinkers hi Larry fans since KABC days wow shout out 790 KABC happy birthday man that's yeah right on thanks for watching happy birthday good job converting your mom to irl it's the young people man leaders

future leaders all right there's youtube has always given me the the business these past few days it's like the browser's half frozen it's weird don't know what the problem is all right kurt crowley says to kill a mockingbird has polluted some of the thought process the time setting was in the 1930s however people read it digest it still think we are in that time frame right yeah great movie too awesome movie gregory peck don brown says i voted for larry they changed it news scum is filth a lot of people said that that their votes were changed that's crazy people told me i've but we've heard we heard a lot about that over the past few years of people posting being like hey i checked

my thing and it was the wrong one and it's just so dirty man creepy stuff all right ian says i want to bring up to mr elder that the nuremberg trials clearly stated that following orders was not a valid excuse for committing crimes. I think you agree with me earlier. And you said there's a good point. Well, yeah. And it's not like the Border Patrol, however, is killing Jews. Yeah, they're just facilitating one of the largest human smuggling operations. And so and I'm not to downplay holocaust my point was i do believe what cbp is facilitating

is probably the lowest tier of human rights violations and like atrocities the highest of course being like genocide and holocaust but what's the like you've opened the door to atrocities it's facilitating what the cartels are doing there are young girls being raped every single day in large numbers it's disgusting uh we were talking i was talking to the guys from uh one a couple guys from texas this morning talking about how there's like used condoms and just filth everywhere these these these cartels are only able to do this because cbp is standing there waiting with smiles on their faces and open arms saying we got it from here buddies so all of these crimes against humanity that are occurring would stop if CBP simply said, we will not facilitate this.

Instead, what they're saying, well, they allow it to happen. There was an interview where a CBP guy says they keep allowing them in. And the guy doing the interview says it's kind of strange because to the average observer, it'sbp that is allowing them in and putting them in cars and driving them to their destinations if cbp said you will not you shall not pass the coyotes would be like we're we're dead in the water we can't we can't run this business anymore so so long as you have thousands of people dying in the deserts drowning in the rivers and young women being raped repeatedly. And some of these are being sex trafficked. And the fentanyl. And the fentanyl and the deaths.

I'm sorry, but CBP is engaged in, like, an atrocity. The lowest tier. I don't like, come on. Anyway, tough talk. My friends, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends,

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Your hand was over. It said Andis. Sorry. Yeah, Andis. Candice Owens. I knew it, sir. I wanted you to shout her out. Yeah, Candice Owens

wrote the forward. Right on. Thanks. Thanks for coming. Yeah, it's been awesome having you here. It's good to see you again. It's been my pleasure, Hannah.

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