Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #952 Ron DeSantis Deploys National Guard To Texas Border As CIVIL WAR Tensions Escalate

Episode Date: February 2, 2024

Tim, Shane, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Brandon Straka to discuss Ron DeSantis deploying 1000 National Guard troops to Texas' southern border, a new senate bill aiming to allow illegal immigrants to s...erve in the US military, Marjorie Taylor Greene moving to censure Ilhan Omar over her claims about Somalia, and Ana Kasparian calling for the deportation of the illegal immigrants who beat NYC police officers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:10 of course, naturally, the conversation is continuing. I don't know that this is a dramatic escalation. It is serious that Ron DeSantis has basically come out and said, we're going to send more. But many states have already sent National Guard. Greg Abbott said 10 different states sent either state law enforcement or National Guard. Greg Abbott said 10 different states sent either state law enforcement or National Guard. So it's hard to know exactly where this is going, but another grain of sand is being added to that heap. So we'll talk about that. Of course, we have many on the left saying that the Republican or right wing threat of civil war is serious, writing many articles about to go along with this. Now we have another story. We covered this last night,
Starting point is 00:01:43 undercover footage showing what appeared to be an army guy of some sort guarding a room full of illegal immigrants. We have more information on this, some rumors and some articles. It is true that there has been an effort since last year or longer to enlist non-citizens into the armed forces. Vladimir Putin is considering the exact same thing, and several countries have begun reinstating the draft. So while you have many people concerned about a potential World War III, while you have Joe Biden approving strikes on Iranian targets, and then you have countries considering the draft, I have to wonder what the U.S. would do in that circumstance, considering Gen Z is not going to fight. They're not going to find very many quality
Starting point is 00:02:24 soldiers among the Gen Z generation, And so maybe it is that they're going to start recruiting non-citizens. And we've got the articles showing the bills they've tried to put forward to make this happen. So we'll talk about that plus a whole lot more. It looks like Donald Trump right now, if the election were to happen today, he would win. And that's bad, bad news for Joe Biden. But what can they do about it? Before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com to buy the best cup of coffee you've ever had. Everybody's favorite Appalachian Nights is completely sold out. Man, we sold too much too quick. So, you know, we had to have a talk with our distributor and say, guys, we got to pick up. We got to carry more. It's moving too
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Starting point is 00:04:13 of medicine keeping him alive mr books of course is a cat for those that aren't watching but uh he got very sick he wet himself collapsed and could not move and so everybody got really scared and as we are doing pre-production for the show he made his way up here to hang out and of course we will not not deny him so he'll be hanging out tonight but the real guest of course is brandon strzok mr boca's got a little bigger fanfare i think that i did well it could be i also wet myself and collapsed before i got here no no no but i understand a copier oh my god i know i know i know it's No, no, no. But I understand. Such a copier. Oh my God. I know. I know. I know. It's pathetic.
Starting point is 00:04:45 But no, no, no. I'm very happy to have him joining us tonight. He's a sweet kitty. So who are you? What do you do? Oh, yeah. So I'm Brandon Strzok, the founder of the Walk Away campaign,
Starting point is 00:04:56 the movement of people walking away from the Democratic Party. And we just relaunched on Facebook too. Oh, wow. Yeah, you can go to joinwalkaway.com and join because we just got started once again. Right on. Well thanks for hanging out. We've got Hannah Clare of course. She is giving love to Mr. Bocas. Yes I'm
Starting point is 00:05:10 Hannah Clare Brimel. I'm the official Bocas minder I guess right now. I'm a writer for scnr.com at Scanner News. Thank you guys for supporting all our work. We have Shane with us tonight again. What's up? It's good to be back. Shane Cashman. Also a writer for scnr.com. Author of the Inverted World series. It's good to be here Serge Shane Cashman, also a writer for SCNR.com, author of the Inverted World series.
Starting point is 00:05:26 It's good to be here, Serge. What's up? Yo, just here wearing my favorite Top Lobster merch and hanging out with Bocas, I guess. All right, let's roll. We got the story from SCNR.com. Governor Ron DeSantis deploys National Guard to Texas border. Quote, if we don't have a border, then we are not a sovereign country. DeSantis, who ended his 2024 campaign two weeks ago, has promised to deploy at least 1,000 troops to the U.S.-Mexico border in addition to the National Guard.
Starting point is 00:05:51 This will mark the first deployment of the Florida State Guard. So that's distinct. I suppose that's where we're actually starting to see some escalation. Florida State Guard, my understanding, you can't federalize them. No, you can't. They're separate. So this is where things are starting to get particularly interesting the concern with texas national guard being deployed is that joe biden could invoke the insurrection act or just make some declaration of we can't
Starting point is 00:06:14 enforce the law without your help one of the criteria for federalizing a national guard is they can't enforce the law through other means which could mean he doesn't need to go and say oh texas is our own state of rebellion he could just just be like, we love Texas, but we're going to need some help on that border. So now they're under my command. But the Texas State Guard and the Florida State Guard, not so much. So with Ron DeSantis deploying Florida State Guard down there, this will create a contingent that cannot be federalized. And this will solidify, I guess guess state supremacy on the law or the states
Starting point is 00:06:46 things starting to get interesting this could end here or this could contribute to a larger you know look the federal government is supposed to be of the states the states go to the federal government and the federal government is formed basically like captain planet all the states say you know with our senators combined we get boom federal government sort of now it formed basically like Captain Planet. All the states say, you know, with our senators combined, we get boom, federal government, sort of. Now it's basically like, yeah, we do not see you as in charge and we are going to take it upon ourselves to unite, come together and effectively form what the federal government was supposed to be on their own. So they say, according to the article, DeSantis visited Texas-Mexico border July of 2021. He sent both state law enforcement officers and members of the Florida National Guard to assist.
Starting point is 00:07:29 He also sent 800 soldiers, 200 Florida Department of Law enforcement officers, 101 state troopers and 20 wildlife officers to assist Texas Border Patrol in May of 2023, as well as five planes, 17 drones, two command vehicles and 10 boats. Quote, Biden has the authority to close the border today if he wanted to. He lacks the will to get the job done. He lacks the capacity to see the problem for what it is. So the American people are basically left scrambling. It's kind of sad. I got to be honest that Ron, what if he was just doing this while running? He didn't need to campaign at all.
Starting point is 00:08:02 That was the wild thing about listening to the speech today, which is it's just a totally different energy. I feel like his we had campaign run and now we have Governor Ron DeSantis and there, you know, he's much more confident. He speaks much more directly. All the criticisms that he didn't have personality. You couldn't say that here. And again, this is something that I think he feels very confident. He's been sending support to Texas since 2021, you know, different amounts at different times he feels very confident. He's been sending support to Texas since 2021. You know, different amounts at different times. He sent boats, he sent people, he spent wildlife agents. I mean, he has really reached into every capacity of the Florida government to say we're behind controlling the border. I think this is a good move for him in
Starting point is 00:08:41 a lot of ways. I think, you know, personally, I think supporting Texas and what they're doing is great. But I also think generally he is really putting himself back out there as the governor people remembered him as. There's a meme, you know, the meme where it's the guy poking the stick at the things and he's like, come on, do something. It's Karl Marx wearing a mask with a with a smiley face and Karl Marx is crying behind it. And he's poking Texas and Joe Biden's like, come on, do do a civil war so there's an article from new republic maga's ugly new civil war fantasy should be taken seriously it's funny because on the right for the most part everyone's saying like no civil war and the left is saying
Starting point is 00:09:16 boy they sure do want a civil war like you keep asking us i guess we'll get it started no it's wild no the left wants the civil war to start because then they can suspend the constitution. No, I think so too. I think, I think the, what, what the, you know, Republican led states are already doing is just saying, well, we don't consent to being governed this way. And so we will resist. I mean, that was what I thought was so powerful about the message that Abbott put out saying our right to self-defense is the supreme law of the land and nothing supersedes that.
Starting point is 00:09:44 That's the way this works. And then every other state that was like, yes, we completely agree. Every other state that felt like state sovereignty is ultimately important step forward. And it's obviously not that surprising that it's along partisan lines, at least to me. I think Democratic states feel ultimately that the more concentrated and the closer their relationship to the federal government, the more power they have. But that's not the case. These states are banding together and saying, we don't want this
Starting point is 00:10:09 and we're going to act accordingly in a nonviolent way. While Tim was reading the list of everything that DeSantis is sending to Texas, I had this terrible image of the federal government stopping it in some similar fashion
Starting point is 00:10:18 as to like the Sherman neckties that happened in the Civil War, where they would like burn the railroad tracks to stop the movement of all these like the food or ammo and stuff. hope it doesn't come to that but at some point i feel like they're gonna try to stop this from happening i just think the federal points on federal highways yeah or i mean i think the federal government's next move is to say well
Starting point is 00:10:36 we're gonna cut off money to the states that are doing this that tends to be their move to say we're gonna you know use the power of the purse to say you don't get this. But I think that, again, this has become such a clear issue and it's winning over. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack,
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Starting point is 00:12:00 Jeez. Imagine if eight years ago, someone came to you and said, in eight years, 10 states will have deployed law enforcement and National Guard to the Texas border in a standoff with the federal government as the feds try to break barriers to allow 10,000 criminal immigrants, criminal aliens every day to rush through the country. And the states began to reject federal authority. The Supreme Court gets involved. The issue that I think we have to understand is frogs in a pot boiling. It's not literal, but when we're at the point where Ron DeSantis, a governor, announces
Starting point is 00:12:34 he's sending a thousand troops to the border, which is in direct defiance of what the federal government is trying to do, every day when something small happens, we get used to it. At this point, we've already heard the news that 10 states have deployed national guard to the texas border now hearing that ron's adding more it's kind of like okay but imagine how insane it would have been if we went from 2016 to that
Starting point is 00:12:55 moment nobody would have believed this would ever happen and i can tell you because as much as people like to say i'll go tim pool talks about civil war i kept saying this will never happen this is not what happens and here it is this is wild well this is what i think is so interesting about the showdown in texas is it's kind of this manifestation of left versus right when the left has the left seems to love the federal government they they love everything federalized they want it as big as possible they want the almighty federal government to be as big and powerful and domineering as possible the right is always very much about obviously limited government but also the sovereignty of the states and so it's really the showdown between like the states and the federal government and it is like a left versus right thing i mean to this point i mean that's it's
Starting point is 00:13:38 just like covet again with lockdowns yeah there's people on the left who wanted the entire everyone has got to shut down ruin your life but then we had the states decide, thankfully, for some people. It also reminds me of the wave of governors that banned TikTok on state property, state technology. And it was a wave of Republican governors. I think actually the governor of Nebraska let it off first, like two years early, then Kristi Noem. This was the end of 2022 into 2023. But then at the tail end, there were like, I think, a total three or four Democratic governors that were like, yes, this technology is risky. We have to step in and say you can't access it
Starting point is 00:14:15 because, you know, part of their terms of service means they can access everything's on the computer or browsing data. So if you're a civil employee accessing someone's private information, it's actually a big risk. But it was right at the tail end that there were a couple democratic governors that were like okay we're going to do this too and i i am wondering if you know in a couple months that there's a chance that you know a more moderate democratic governor will say okay we're actually with texas on this one this is too risky to state to not be involved in but it's kind of like the breakdown with law enforcement, too, because the left was screaming, defund the police, ban the police. But they love the FBI.
Starting point is 00:14:49 They love the Federal Bureau. Whereas conservatives are more like, we want law enforcement out of the federal government. They're Marxists. They love when they can weaponize the power against their enemies. That's all they do. And I think conservatives tend to be more supportive or at least more sympathetic to state or local police.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And they are definitely more distrusting of anything on the federal level. Where are the where's the law enforcement, the prosecutors from, say, West Virginia or Texas? Why hasn't any prosecutor in Texas filed criminal charges against Joe Biden? Good question. Just outright question and let them argue he's immune. Is he immune or not? And let them argue and say, look, interview some CBP guys,
Starting point is 00:15:32 Customs and Border Protection. Ask them why it is you are facilitating human trafficking. Why are you accepting handoffs from cartels? And when they say, just what I was ordered to do, you can go, okay, who's your boss? And then finally you get to the guy at the top, you get to Mayorkas or whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And then you can say, Joe Biden was aware of this and we want to criminally charge him. How about you start with a criminal, a criminal investigation into Joe Biden and let them argue you can't do the president's immune oh is he well i guess you got to drop those charges against donald trump is it your feeling though that the average liberal or leftist citizen is behind joe biden on this no okay because my feeling is that this is this is biden kind of acting on his own i don't feel like there's like a groundswell of support from the average citizen on the left not that i've seen i've seen a lot of people who basically put me in exile for things i've said during covid come around to being like agreeing with me on most things now so but that's just me like i don't know a lot of people i'm not in new york anymore where that's it's a hard thing to defend people exist oh yeah i mean but new york
Starting point is 00:16:37 has been really hard hit by the all the immigration stuff right i mean again credit to abbott him busing uh migrants everywhere the thing is with the new York, the migrants in New York, and I can't remember the whole total, but at one point it was like 100,000 that had arrived in New York. But he had only bused like 30,000 there, which means that there were migrants coming in already anyways. He maybe exacerbated the problem by not allowing them to stay in Texas, but it called attention to an issue that New York was already coming under siege for. And that's something that New Yorkers day to day, you know, I might generalize them as being more progressive
Starting point is 00:17:08 than, you know, someone as someone in another part of the country. They are having to face the realities of immigration the way that border communities had to. And so it is an issue that I think is sort of undeniable. And ultimately, there are a lot of reasons we've talked about, you know, the effect of the fentanyl crisis. We've talked about the effect of human trafficking, human smuggling. There are a lot of ways to say this is a bad idea, no matter where your sympathies fall. And I'll clarify for the individuals in the chat who lack the ability to hold more than one thought at a time. CBP officers that are facilitating human smuggling and working with cartel members should go to prison.
Starting point is 00:17:52 When you interview them and you ask them why they're committing these crimes against humanity and they invariably just say, I was told to do it. You now get criminal implications on their superiors. That does not mean they don't go to jail. But right now, politically, the question is, does Donald Trump have immunity for the actions he took as president? And the answer is yes, unless he's impeached and convicted if the democrats think otherwise then the political opportunity is file criminal charges against joe biden watch them come out screaming he's immune and then watch donald trump's question get to his trial get dismissed generally speaking conservatives have not gotten wise yet to the idea of weaponizing the courts the way that the left has i i gotta be honest i don't even look at it like weaponizing
Starting point is 00:18:30 but the left is weaponizing and we're not even there's no not even counter reaction is what i'm saying the the the anti-establishment faction is not even attempting to enforce the law in any capacity correct so when you've got joe biden destroying property charge the cbp agents with destruction of state property that's a felony nope nope nope we're not going to do that yeah hold on someone gets an order to destroy state property and the state's like well i guess they're allowed to do it is that a joke they don't they don't do anything do you think it's you just described as anti-establishment do you think that's part of it they don't do anything. Do you think it's, you just described it as anti-establishment. Do you think that's part of it? They don't think about how to use the system to benefit because they are generally anti the system?
Starting point is 00:19:09 No, no. Anti-establishment doesn't mean you oppose governance. It's just, there's a reason why the establishment gained the amount of power that it did and why we're watching them. I mean, it's wild, man. It's a bunch of communists that are willing to say or do whatever they want for power. And then everyone else just keeps saying, leave me alone. Okay, well, you keep doing that.
Starting point is 00:19:31 They're going to keep gaining ground wherever they can. I feel like it. I don't agree with it, but I feel like a lot of it has to do with people being desensitized to the justice system being so broken and having no accountability on the left. So when people on the, like, look what happened with like the sex tape from the Senate or whatever. Yeah, the fact that they were like, we've closed the case.
Starting point is 00:19:49 We can't find any evidence of wrongdoing. Meanwhile, there's people at J6 getting, you know, all this stuff put in prison, you know, being chased around like, right, so we'll save this one for the larger subject. But the guy who filmed the adult film in Senate, no charges, none, totally fine.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Crazy. Well, they can't find evidence of wrongdoing. Like that was the line. There's literally a video of wrongdoing. There's literally a video and they're like, we don't know. It could be AR. Anything could have happened. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:20:16 But that, I mean, that makes people cynical. And I think that miscarriage of justice or that just sort of blind denial, especially in this case, with comparing, comparing, casting it to J Sixers is interesting because the more videos that came out proved more and more that they were, there were so many people who were just waved into the building. I mean, we had the shaman who was escorted around this idea that there is actual video evidence that some prosecutor has decided I'm just actually going to turn a blind eye to. And in fact, it seems like juries are saying that doesn't count. I think it's beyond that, though, because we almost live in separate realities. There's people who look at those videos and still see the thing they want to see.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Totally. It's terrifying. But I think you're right what you said about the desensitization of losing in the courts. It feels like we're always losing in the courts. It feels like we're always losing in the courts. And I mean, to me, even just based off my own personal experience, I feel like there is a certain wokeness. Like I think that even the most- Did you have a jury trial?
Starting point is 00:21:14 I didn't. Sorry, I cut you off. No, no, no, you're fine. You're fine. No, I took a plea deal as most people are doing in these cases, but I did have a Trump appointed judge, which did me no favors, trust me.
Starting point is 00:21:25 And in fact, I would actually argue that in most cases, the people who drew the Trump judges, they're getting the worst. Because first of all, I believe that a lot of the Trump-appointed judges actually hate Trump. Just because they were appointed by Trump doesn't mean they were Trump supporters or Trump fans. It just means they have a history of conservatism. And at some point, they probably worked in the Bush administration or something like that. But in addition to that, I think that they feel like they have something to prove, you know, like, oh, just because I'm Trump appointed doesn't mean that I'm going to go easy on these Trump supporters. I'm going to go extra hard on them. Watch what I
Starting point is 00:21:56 do. And I think that's happening with a lot of conservative judges around the country. I think it's another reason why we've lost faith in the courts, even if it's an immigration situation, whatever it is. We just feel like we can't win. Yeah, it's there to do me. Who's your judge, Kelly? Her name is Dabney Friedrich. Oh, interesting. I want to jump to this story.
Starting point is 00:22:15 It's an old story. It showed what appears to be a drill sergeant guarding a room full of illegal immigrants while an NGO was inside that brags, boasts they're facilitating these migrant traveling around the country. The speculation at the end of the show was someone said this is where people go for basic training. And so we do have some updates. Nothing I can say definitively. But if you were to lay out all the pieces in this story, it would look like there are a bunch of criminal aliens being brought into the airport in secret under guard of a drill sergeant, potentially to be recruited into the military. I'm not saying that is true. It does also, it's all, it's entirely possible that guy just happened to have been sitting there. That's right. A drill sergeant in the airport, sitting in a chair in front of this room full of illegal
Starting point is 00:23:05 immigrants just because he was there and he was waiting for a plane or something. Somebody reached out to us and they said that they may have information and they think, based on what they know, I don't want to get too much into it for privacy reasons. The individual may have literally just been standing there, completely unrelated. It may be that the room in question was a USO room that was allowing criminal aliens to use his facilities. And either way, this drill sergeant, according to the state senator who had his camera taken from him, was guarding illegal immigrants. It does not mean he was ordered to do so. It could just be he as an individual was sitting in front of this room
Starting point is 00:23:41 preventing people from interfering in an operation that was smuggling humans. Now, many people pointed out to me that, in fact, the U.S. has been making attempts to enlist noncitizens for some time. We have this from Stars and Stripes. Senate bill renews efforts to enlist noncitizens in the military. OK, there's been a lot of talk about World War Three. We got this one from Newsweek. You love Dan Crenshaw.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I believe it's Dan Crenshaw who said this. Talk of World War Three should not deter strikes inside Iran. Yikes. OK, I guess. But there absolutely is a fear that we are inching towards World War Three. have all started conversations around reinstating the military draft. In fact, Sweden has always had one, but they're telling their citizens to get prepared for war. And now young Swedes are starting to consider whether or not they will be conscripted. In the UK, a high ranking military officer said it's time to train a citizen army, which is conscription for National Guard, I guess you can call it. And in Australia, they were having conversations about a push to create a civilian army to defend the country if war were to break out. In the United States, of course, we are facing massive shortfalls in recruitment. And then you get this video that looks like it may be criminal aliens going through some kind of recruitment process. I say looks like I'm not
Starting point is 00:24:58 saying it is. Take a look at this from The New York Times. This is a story from January 5th, 2024. To bolster Russia's army, Putin eases citizenship path for foreign fighters. He's seeking to strengthen his military to fight in Ukraine while mobilizing a potentially unpopular mobilization of Russians. If Russia is doing it, other countries have used mercenaries throughout history. I believe the likelihood that the U.S. plans to or is actually in the process of using this mass influx of criminal aliens, using them for war, it's extremely likely. Now, a lot of people said, duh, we've all said this.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Yes, we've talked about that very prospect on this show six, seven months ago. But now it's starting to seem more like a reality. And I think we need members of Congress, probably not going to be Democrats, have to be some Republicans demanding answers and questions as to what we saw in this video and finding out whether or not there are plans to use non-citizens coming to the border illegally, these fighting age males, to enlist them in the military and have them fight in the event there's a major war. I'm going to say this.
Starting point is 00:26:01 If you were in charge of a country and you could not get people to join up and you feared World War Three was coming, I think most people would be like, we'll take mercenaries. We'll take anybody we can. And I think this is one way they're looking to do it. It just seems like the logical path. And I don't think some people have said, Tim, that would mean these people care about the United States. No, it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:26:22 It means they care about their home in Wilmington, Delaware. It means they're like, hey, I got a million dollar property in Santa Monica. And the only way that stands is if we don't lose a war, they will do whatever it takes. Do you think the U.S. would just say, well, we're looking at a prospect of international conflict. We have a shortfall in our troops. Let's do nothing. Or do you think they're going to say, bring them all in, baby? So you're saying there's not enough trans people joining the military that they have to do this?
Starting point is 00:26:51 Because I was, it seemed that diversity was the most successful. Yeah, I thought we were told that diversity was the most important thing in recruitment right now. No, I think to be serious, actually, they probably, they did increase the amount of trans people who did join the military. But it wasn't enough well it's not enough to bolster their ranks but the truth is when they offered uh the the the surgeries and things like that there was a big push from trans people being like i'll sign up free free you know gender affirming care section but uh outside of that yes the wokeness in the military has utterly destroyed it. And so I have to wonder then, is it on purpose? Because I knew I met a guy who was an officer, like an actual commissioned officer, who said it was a career for me and I'm resigning my commission because of all the woke stuff, all the anti-white stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I can't be here. Now, what's their alternative? Either they're the stupidest people in the world or they're intentionally purging the ranks and then, oh no, we have no choice but to replace the soldiers we lost with non-citizens. And a lot of people think the purpose of these non-citizens to bring them in is to dramatically alter the electorate. These things are not mutually exclusive. You can bring in all these people, say, you're going to go fight World War III and when you
Starting point is 00:28:03 come home, you'll be a citizen. And then you dramatically alter the voting body but how do you fight for a country that you know nothing about and that you really have no allegiance to whatsoever how did the hessians how did any mercenary group how many how many how many military contractors in the middle east the other night surge brought up i think think it was Serge, that during the Civil War, a lot of Irish were coming over. Yeah, right off the boat. The musket said, go to war.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I think part of the issue is, yes, they could literally pick up guns and fight and maybe hear commands or whatever else, but what happens afterwards? Theoretically, if you're a citizen and you're a soldier, you get access to the GI Bill. When you come back to the US, are you coming back with the idea that I have served my country? Are you saying like, cool, now I get some other benefits? If you never really acclimate to being someone who feels like it's very different than people who enlisted thinking, this is something I'm doing in service of our country, which I just don't think our generation has really had. I think it's something that was in the past. And I think saying, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:05 there might be someone who says, oh, well, I really feel as though I serve the country and now I'm a citizen and, you know, feel that effect. But I think for the most part, if it's transactional, if you're saying, oh, well, I'm doing this so I can get in and actually I'm going to not really acclimate in any way, I'm not going to take on our culture because right now it's very hard to describe if we have, I mean, I really don't think that there is a unifying american culture that even people who migrate here with all best intentions can seriously click into and that's just very different than other points in history including the civil war when there was sort of something there that people were buying into i gotta tell you if you're a conspiracy theorist who believes that there's a bunch of global elite
Starting point is 00:29:41 want to take over the world or whatever the the best thing for them would be World War III. It reduces population and it creates enough damage and devastation that it gives you an opportunity to enforce an international governing body. We've seen this every time. I mean, if you look at the Civil War, powers went from the states instantly to the federal government after the war was over. If you look at World War II, you get the creation of the liberal economic order. If there is a World War III that causes massive population reduction, I mean, a lot of these
Starting point is 00:30:12 population, the Malthusians are going to be very happy. But then you have cities in disarray. You have, I mean, actually, look at it this way. The NHS, the reason why Europe has nationalized health healthcare for the most part is because of World War II. After everything was decimated and destroyed, their economies were ruined. They had no choice but to be like, all these people injured and damaged from the war need treatment. And so that's the evolution of it. The US doesn't have that.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Imagine what the world would turn into if there was a major World War III. And then from the ashes, the powers that remain say, if this happens one more time, there will be no earth. So we're creating the global order structure or whatever you want to call it. And all countries will abide by its rules. It will be based out of they'll create some kind of military force like the Capitol and Hunger Games. I'm not saying literally. I'm saying an opportunity for dramatic change comes from war. The reason the left would be happy to get a civil war
Starting point is 00:31:05 is because the constitution is gone. The reason why the World Economic Forum, Davos elites would love World War III is that it allows them to completely overwrite government built, like basically get rid of all the different constitutions and guarantees of all the different countries. But I was just gonna say in my conspiracy brain,
Starting point is 00:31:20 I've been like thinking about what this, a World War III would even look like. And I keep thinking like a World War III is mostly drones and less people right and so the conspiracy thing for me kicks in where i'm like these people should they become soldiers are going to be used against our own citizens what would the drones attack what would who knows targets like that have weapons you know uh missiles underground, leaders of some sort. But if the weapons are all mostly drones, the drones will be used to take out infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Right. But there'll be like operating from like a ship out at sea, you know? And then what happens when, you know, you're in, you're in New York and all of a sudden way up in the sky, you can barely see it.
Starting point is 00:31:58 A tiny speck fires a missile and blows up the Williamsburg bridge. Yeah. But I'm sitting here thinking to myself if you wanted to create a military that really had no particular allegiance to the american people or its own citizens that at any point you could turn on the american people or weaponize against the american people wouldn't you do it with people who came to this country with no particular allegiance to to the culture to the country to the people that to the country, to the people that aren't around, to each other, and enlist them in the military.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And, you know, not to say- Which just operates federally. It's not even like they have a home state that they're like, I would like to go back there and be a part of this community. Right. Exactly. I mean, these people would have no reason to say that, no, I'm not, you know, we're talking about my parents,
Starting point is 00:32:42 my grandparents, my family, the country that I care about.'re just like okay big lessons from the civil war when the when the generals had to ask themselves am i going to fight for my country or my home and many of them said my home is virginia or my home is you know uh south carolina and they and they left these people come in they their their home is i don't care i mean mean, I don't know. It's one place, right? So imagine what happens if we get a World War III. I guarantee you, if the strikes that they're proposing on Iranian targets,
Starting point is 00:33:11 not Iran directly, but Dan Crenshaw certainly wants it, but actual Iranian assets in the region, and this escalates one step at a time until we are literally in World War III. There's not going to be a formal declaration of World War III. Joe Biden's not going to come and be like, we're hereby announced world war three and let's go baby
Starting point is 00:33:27 it's going to be one step at a time we will find ourselves in it facing a military shortfall which everyone already knows about biden gives a state of the address saying therefore i'm signing an executive order under my powers in the state of emergency to enlist non-citizens in this country to bolster our numbers it's basically star wars clone wars you guys have seen that one right no i haven't yeah you haven't no oh you know guys don't get you don't know this oh man well let me tell you basically the separatists want to leave the republic and they're blockading a planet. The Republic does not have a military force that can stop them. Obi-Wan finds a planet that's mass produced clones. And they're like, it's your army. There's an entire army of clones available at your disposal. And so they go back to the
Starting point is 00:34:16 planet and they're like, what should we do? And they're like, if we use these clones, we can actually repel the separatists. So they say yes. And then the emperor says, now that I have all these clones who have no allegiance to anybody, we'll do whatever I say. He says, go kill all the Jedi. So this is quite literally like the real life version. The U.S. needing to bolster its numbers for a potential World War III says we can use all these non-citizens. When that war is over and these people come back, you will have stormtroopers who don't care about you, don't care about you don't care about your state don't even know the name of most the cities in this country and they will do
Starting point is 00:34:48 whatever the federal government tells them to do and the federal government's been telling them that most of citizens here are evil extremists who vote for the white supremacists and they actually hate yeah they hate you they don't even want you here right so if you were you know to turn against them it wouldn't matter that's why we held the curtain open for you to sneak in and here's a gun and come back with crazy with crazy PTSD from whatever war we sent you to. It's not just the United States, though. If the U.S. I mean, and I don't know what the probability of something like this happening,
Starting point is 00:35:14 but let's say U.S. bombs Iran. Iran immediately declares full-scale mobilization. U.S. starts talking to its allies saying, guys, it's getting hot. We need to make moves. And then before you know it, within a couple of months, no one declares it. But missile strikes, air raids, troop mobilization in Pakistan, it's heating up World War Three. Joe Biden's invoke, you know, invokes a state of emergency, gives a State of the Union address
Starting point is 00:35:39 saying we need more troops. The numbers are not enough. We will not lose. There are many. He's going to say like migrants. He's not going to say illegal immigrants. He's a many migrants in this country, love this country, and we'll fight for it. And we are going to offer them that opportunity. He then creates this massive military force. Once the international conflict subsides and there's mass destruction and death, you now have the opportunity for a global elitist or whatever to say, we can never allow this to happen again. Therefore, we will be creating a global governing body to adjudicate disputes between factions with an international military force called the Global Task Force or whatever. And it will be these people who come from countries where they don't quite care enough.
Starting point is 00:36:22 They leave. They will have no problem going to europe to russia to china and so there will be non-national military forces that's a potential i'm not saying it's true i'm saying the dominoes are lined up as such it could land that way it's not good i don't like it no i'm so glad i have insurrection on my record so i like i'm never going to be forced to enlist like though i can't have, I used to be able to play the gay card, but that's no good anymore. Not the insurrection card. But how old are you? 47.
Starting point is 00:36:51 You're too old. Go on. I'm too old. I committed insurrection and well, I'm gay. Did you think that it would be that insurrection would get you out of the army and not the gay? I never dreamed we did up here. But it is funny that you used to be too gay. And they were like, actually, we changed our mind. Like, that's fine now. That's not the gay. I never dreamed we did up here. But it is funny that you used to be too gay. And they were like, actually, we changed our mind.
Starting point is 00:37:07 That's fine now. That's not the problem. You're way low on intersectionality scale now. Yeah, right. You're a white male. Yeah. And gay is still cis heteronormative. I believe, right?
Starting point is 00:37:17 Oh, no, is it not? It's problematic. It's problematic. It is. I don't know, man. World War III or no, what do you guys think? I keep thinking well i kind of feel like we've been in it and just not defining it as such for a long time but i was just
Starting point is 00:37:30 gonna say as we're away with all international conflicts yes right right i think they're going to go back throughout time and there's so many pockets of crazy violence battles across the world and they're gonna in the future connect us all be like this is the conglomerate of a war i'm just waiting for like the gen z historians to take over and be like we wouldn't call it a war we would say it was a situation ship we just we didn't really say what it was so this is where we're at now from the post-millennial marjorie taylor green brings resolution to censure ilhan omar over treasonous statements i do believe this story shows us the tensions between the political factions i also believe it shows um a lot of it's for show i gotta be honest censure for treason is that a joke everything republicans
Starting point is 00:38:15 do is for show none of it it doesn't mean anything how many of them have introduced articles of impeachment against biden yes right democrats are the same thing but i mean like dude if you actually thought someone was an impeachment trial we've just like been like i'm gonna impeach you and i'm gonna impeach you yeah if marjorie taylor green and i'd like to talk to her about this but i'm gonna say right now if you genuinely think it's treasonous i think the resolution would be for a criminal referral in the immediate and an expulsion from congress i see your point yeah followed by criminal charges for which the penalty is for treason is but i think it's 10 years in prison or death right that's a bold thing to claim someone's scale i will say absolutely yeah it is it's a
Starting point is 00:38:57 wide range it's like we're gonna give you a written warning for treason but yeah right the right is playing the same games as the left like they're taking important words and killing them right like trees oh i know that's why i keep getting mad when people say it's treason but the right is playing the same games as the left like they're taking important words and killing them right like treason i know that's why i keep getting mad when people say it's treason i'm like no it's sedition right and it's like i understand there's an overlap but biden breaking the southern border which is bringing a bunch of random people from different countries that's destroying the nation that's seditious that is destroying the fabric of the nation right treason would be like he met with an organized body that the it would be so it could it could be treason right like if joe biden
Starting point is 00:39:31 goes to the cartels and says we're gonna give you everything you everything you want that's a traitor to this country yes they have betrayed the country to our enemies right there's an overlap though i get it but yeah but no like benedict arnold was selling west point to the brit to the british you know they caught they caught the one guy and they hang that guy uh and arnold got away and they put him in a nice uh grave in the bottom of a cathedral and i'm hearing really scooby-doo like and i would have gotten away with it too well there's also uh ben franklin's son you know ian ian brought this up he was a loyalist and he fled to i believe he fled to london where he was like those people are nuts yeah yeah it's crazy it's wild but benedict got away with a lot
Starting point is 00:40:09 of stuff and um you know he was married to a loyalist and he was a war vet who was he felt like he wasn't awarded enough from his time at battle and so he's like i'm gonna sell west point and it didn't work out i live by my own rules goodbye he turned west point like the biggest battle point of you know it was holding down the hudson river and he turned it into a literal pigsty and then when george washington came by he was like what happened here where's benedict arnold go get benedict arnold and then his wife put on a whole display crying fake crying so they say so benedict could get down onto the hms vulture and take off wow it's crazy and he's that's treason that is that's treason yeah right so right now you've got cartels ngos human smugglers and i think there is
Starting point is 00:40:52 an argument to be made for treason but i i think it's too strong in that we're not at war with some stupid ngo they're just committing crimes right you arrest the people who are doing it biden's just not doing that so i'd say that's sedition. But again, more to the point. I actually, this is really funny. Actually, let me play this video for you. This is good. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Centuring Representative Ilhan Omar of Somalia. I mean, Minnesota. Okay, bravo. Bravo on that one. Maybe that's why she wasn't sure what she was bringing up on charges. She's like, I just got this good line. I got to get this to the floor quick. I think there is a question, though, and it's a fair argument to be had.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Everybody's really mad about Ilhan Omar saying, you know, my president and Somali and all that. And, I mean, there's a lot of people who are like, we will fight for Israel. We will do whatever, Israel, whatever they need. You know, it is a holy land. I mean, there's been politicians who have said on par things. I don't like any of them. To be fair, I'm not sure that any of the politicians who have pledged support to Israel have outright said that they are Israelis who are serving Israel. But they have said, like, we will give them whatever they want.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Haven't some of them worn, like, the flag or even uniforms? Yeah, I'm pretty sure there are people like they wore like American flag in Israel. Right. And so, I mean, there's a question of like, hey, man, I got to be honest, I'm not a fan of any of it. Yeah. Like, I don't like the US spending all its money on foreign countries and all this aid, right?
Starting point is 00:42:22 And Israel gets a lot of it. Yeah. So everyone's mad at Ilhan Omar, but I'm kind of like okay i mean fair point what's your position on israel because like i think israel's right to defend itself all that stuff i think uh you know what hamas did is bad i think hamas should be wiped out all that stuff i just don't like our politicians acting like this country is somehow deserving of everything we have to give it. I'm like, well, it's another country. They're entitled to their rights, their natural rights, their self-defense,
Starting point is 00:42:48 all that good stuff. I think it's a beautiful country too. That being said, there are a lot of people who are adamant on providing military support, massive amounts of money. And fine, if that's your argument, I'll listen. But why be mad at Ilhan Omar
Starting point is 00:43:03 who wants the same thing, but for a different country? To me, I think that there's just a general attitude. With her, there's this ongoing sort of rhetoric about a hatred of America and our values and that things need to change and that we're inherently racist and we're inherently white supremacist
Starting point is 00:43:21 and things like that. So I think when someone like her shows an allegiance to where she comes from, it lands differently than I think somebody who actually has a love and respect for America, but also wants to support. Yeah, I do recognize there's a big difference between saying something like Israel will get our military support is an ally in the region and being like, I'm Somali from Somalia and I love my president.
Starting point is 00:43:43 And you're like, wait a minute. Yeah. And this country sucks. I feel likeali from Somalia and I love my president. And you're like, wait a minute. Yeah. And this country sucks. I feel like you don't remember where we are right now. Yeah. Like if someone in Congress said that, you know, Netanyahu was their boss or whatever, we'd, we'd take that. That's a step too far.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Some people, I gotta be honest though. There have been, I think Lauren might've been Lauren Boebert saying something like it was a Holy land. I don't want to put words in people's mouths, but there have been members of Congress who have said like, this is the Holy land. We'll defend it. And we're going to work with Israel to do so and things like that. Yeah. I mean, I've said this a couple of times, but when JFK was president, everyone was like, well, he's Catholic. So his ultimate allegiance is to the Pope. And can we have that? And he had to give a public address. He had to, you know, pre-ex putting out
Starting point is 00:44:20 the threads, addressing things. He had to give a speech saying like, this is how my faith fits into my loyalty to America. Ultimately, I'm loyal to whatever uh and so i think this question of who do you answer to ultimately is interesting because we need our politicians to say my priority is to the people who elected me who are ultimately all american although some of them live in different states and therefore have their own priorities uh the idea that someone is like well my home country is somalia so i like it better like yeah and jfk had to come to west virginia to earn those votes from people who were very skeptical of his catholicism and he and he did win west virginia yeah that speech that you're
Starting point is 00:44:55 talking about is worth listening to no it's it's really powerful and i i think it's it's something that i wish more people would study yeah she's omar claims that her the translations were slanted by propagandists yeah i've seen i've seen a portion that i'm always worried about that when i'm seeing stuff on twitter like going viral and they're like and it's got you know that's why i don't retweet them yeah yeah because you don't know you just don't know and now with deep fakes dude yeah when when someone's talking into a mic and you can't really see their mouth and this is all you know people you're watching the camera and i you could you could ai deep fake anything i showed i showed tim the video of joe biden in front of the green screen with the boom mic going through his hand
Starting point is 00:45:33 anything's fake remember that the that was that was a weird video anything anything is fake anything you guys remember that one where joe biden walks up to the press corps whatever and he and he leans forward and then all of a sudden one of the mics is like in front of his, or no, it's like under his hand. Yeah, it kind of looks like it goes right through his hand. It's just very strange. As if he was in front of a green screen. I think he is in front of a green screen. But he does film on a soundstage semi-regularly, right? He does do that as well.
Starting point is 00:45:55 But there were other angles of this that looked normal. There were, there were. But I think he's either a clone sometimes, a deepfake, or AI. But that's just me. I don't want to derail the conversation. Shane, Shane. But it's true. I gotta stop, dude.
Starting point is 00:46:09 These unhinged conspiracies have no place in sane conversations. We're clearly in a simulation. Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Tim. Dude, I gotta be honest. I'm sitting here watching everything going on and I'm like, yo, the world's crazy.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Well, this is, I've been thinking about this a lot. It is very crazy. But how do we have that perspective like is it because when we were growing up things seemed more normal but now everything's just nuts or are we just in some kind of simulation i was listening to one of your bits earlier about in the 90s when we were all younger and it seemed like a cheerier time that there i think that's true it wasn't it was true but there was more of a curtain between us and the degeneracy happening in D.C. and all over the place. There's no more curtain anymore.
Starting point is 00:46:49 So the degeneracy is everywhere. It was the noble journalist who shielded us from the harsh truths of D.C. To let all the warmongers do all their warring. And you didn't have to know about it. I think we were a happier country, though. We were happier. Several decades ago. I agree.
Starting point is 00:47:04 I think there was a level of a lot more stuff we get hidden things like i'm grateful for social media because it allows certain journalists who i do trust to bring things to light on the other hand the downside is the degeneracy that becomes trendy spreads much i'm hoping that that degeneracy starts to wane soon that's my psychotic optimism talking well there was an article in the atlantic uh that i haven't finished reading, so no one quote me on it, but it was talking about how there's going to be
Starting point is 00:47:28 a Christian revival in America. It's already happening. Which I find fascinating. Already happening. Well, and younger generations tend to be more religious. I think there was a poll out the other day,
Starting point is 00:47:36 and I don't have the source, that said Gen Z males are more likely to view feminism as dangerous or bad. There is a shift occurring, but what will be the long-term effect? Because we've already, you know, we've already had people raised in the culture
Starting point is 00:47:49 of fear and mistrust. Well, yeah, feminism should be illegal. Women should have to wear those handmaid's tale things. That's right. I love that red cloak. Wasn't Kavanaugh supposed to do that? What happened to Kavanaugh making that happen? I'm not always into like-
Starting point is 00:48:02 Why are you here, Hannah Clare? I ask myself this every day. He overturned Roe v. Wade. They're going to agree with you. That's right. The thing is that we all have to agree that the cloak that they wear in Handmaid's Tale, the red one, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:48:13 That is stylish. I mean, being forced to do things. Flip that, people. I stand by that 100%. The head thing, I get maybe impractical for driving, but should women do? Of course, all of those women lined up to wear masks, by the way, and you can't take them off their face. don't take my mask away the same handmaid's tale but
Starting point is 00:48:28 then they have those scenes in the show where they're like do we have to wear these masks like pick a side thinking about all this though and like how we're kind of becoming as a society numb to all these shocking events that keep happening i was thinking about that crazy decapitation video that happened that came out the guy had a militia did you write about it he claimed he was president of the country now and he wanted biden kidnapped you know like that's already receding from the news and like there's no shelf life to shock anymore like because he's alive like he got taken to be alive which normally you'd think they would film his appearance and there'd be other stuff but i mean part of it is i think that he is just so crazy that it's hard for even
Starting point is 00:49:05 mainstream media to spin i saw a couple like maga supporter does whatever but right he ultimately declared himself president so i don't know but even super mad but even thinking about how people are uh the theories fracture after that video emerges we can't even agree on that even though there's a video of him saying these things there's people saying literally he's he could be mk ultra which is very possible he could be it could be ai the head could have been a prop you know like we can't even agree on things in the video which goes back to george floyd you know any anything on video january 6 all these things so that's the stuff that's weird the the break started with trump i mean it's it's if hillary had won in 2016 we wouldn't be here i mean we we would still think it was the same country from Obama and W and everything changed
Starting point is 00:49:48 after Trump. And that's when the break began. Snowballed down and then COVID happened. Yeah. Lockdown. Well, COVID wouldn't have happened if not for Trump. Exactly. I mean, I'm with you on that.
Starting point is 00:49:56 My tinfoil hat. There you go. Some people thought the break started when Kanye stormed the stage at the VMAs and took Taylor's award. So we'll save that for another podcast. That's good. Let's talk about Taylor Swift. Everyone in the chat fires me immediately.
Starting point is 00:50:08 There are many things that happened. The biggest impact, I believe, was probably the Great Recession. That shocked the entire system massively, which resulted in Occupy Wall Street, which resulted in an economic shift where what are young people able to do without these jobs that were lost?
Starting point is 00:50:27 Go on the internet and start posting BS, creating all these digital news websites that make BS, creating a generation of people who don't want to lift heavy things. And the big shift was around this time, not necessarily the Great Recession, but it's around this time
Starting point is 00:50:39 with the emergence of social media, we got the rise of intersectionalism and postmodernism. And it was because it made money. That the simple version algorithms promoted things that generate rage yeah if it makes you angry it gets clicks more than any other emotion and politics injustice makes people angry so the world is dominated by politics since then the avatar for that anger with more people seeing what was going on, more people being screwed over. We get screwed over in 2008, mostly the Gen X and boomers and older.
Starting point is 00:51:09 And then you've got Barack Obama. And what does he do? He doesn't help you. There's more war. In the second term for Barack Obama, people were unsatisfied. Hillary Clinton is deeply disliked, was advocating for war.
Starting point is 00:51:23 And Donald trump represented a lot of the anger people were feeling especially young people with the rise of post-modernism and i know that's for a fact because i went to like 30 plus rallies in the 2015-16 election cycle and i'd ask young people like why are you here and uh janesville wisconsin was one memorable moment a fight broke out and this is such a such a it's so indicative of exactly what happened you have uh man this one really grinds my gears sorry what what rally was it janesville wisconsin no for whom for trump okay so i'm there and i see some young guys and i'm like you know what are you guys doing here why do you support trump and they're like the political
Starting point is 00:51:59 correctness is getting out of control they're like we like donald trump because he speaks his mind and he's pushing back a fight broke out and you can find these videos. I believe it was mike.com. I could be wrong, but there was a young progressive woman got pepper sprayed. What they did was they ran headlines across the board saying Trump supporter pepper sprays young woman. It's true, but she punched him. She punched him in the face. He sprayed her afterwards. I believe that that's disproportionate. Getting punched in the face and all you do is spray someone with pepper spray? Well, a punch in the face is way worse.
Starting point is 00:52:31 What did they do? The interaction was about one second. The girl punches the guy. He instantly sprays. So when these allies, I believe it was Mike, shows this argument, there's a white flash and then he's spraying her with pepper spray.
Starting point is 00:52:49 The white flash was when she punched him. They literally edited a split second as if it was like, here's the fight, and here's where he did it. When in fact, the whole thing was a few seconds, and they wanted to cut out that she hit him first. This exemplifies exactly where we've gone. These companies wanted to make money we all saw that ryan long bit where he's like i will sell different footage to msnbc or to fox to make out what happens and he's like if it's you know when the protester is throwing bottles the cops it's not to fox when the cops are attacking back i saw it to msnbc that's the game so when you get this you know progressive woman punching a guy no one's
Starting point is 00:53:26 going to click on that nah your audience wants to see the opposite trump's the bad guy so they manipulate the media they they did that so many times uh sorry to cut you off i remember i was a hillary supporter voted for hillary um sorry uh but i remember during that time in 2015 and 2016, before he got elected and it was like, we were constantly hearing these stories about Trump supporters throwing black people out there and that's how, and they would show the footage of a bunch of, you know, Trump supporters throwing a black person out. What they forgot to mention was that the black person in many instances was a, you know, kind of a radical protester who oftentimes was getting violent with people. They all that out and stupid people like me were like oh my god trump supporters hate
Starting point is 00:54:09 black people they're throwing them out of rallies why did that seem so believable to you at the time just because you were already in sort of like progressive circles or what about it was was uh because i really did believe that so then you have to remember that I didn't realize how big MAGA was, too. I don't think any of us really did yet. So the media was representing it as this fringe sect of the Republican Party that was small. Remember, he was supposed to lose in a landslide. He was supposed to get like three percent of the vote. So I thought MAGA was this radical sect of the Republican Party that was extremely racist and bigoted, that was reacting.
Starting point is 00:54:45 It was a backlash against a black president, Barack Obama. These people were it was a backlash against gay marriage rights that were coming to the forefront. And it seemed believable to me that these were radical white supremacist people that were being riled up by Trump. The media kept saying Trump calls Mexicans rapists. He's advocating for a Muslim ban. he wants to repeal gay rights. That's what I thought the movement was about. So then they'd go out and find these moments that they could show me, see, they're throwing black people out. They don't even want black people at the rally. And I was like, wow, these people are terrible. And it did seem believable.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I think once they can, the media apparatus can convince people of a caricature of someone rather than the real person, you can convince them to think anything about that person. And they did that so beautifully with Trump because they're like, they present this cartoon figure on the news, deceptively edited, and then they'll tell you anything. And it was, it was easily believable. I didn't care about Trump or Hillary at 2015 or 16. I didn't even vote. The first time I didn't vote was that was the 2016 election. I voted for Trump 2020. But I was like noticing early on that they were doing to Trump what they were doing to certain artists that I like growing up, whether it was rappers or people in the middle community, they were turning them into a caricature. And then people were going like, oh, it's a psychotic person, you know? But then, you know, you see the deceptively edited videos of good people on both sides, just one example. And then you're like, the deceptively edited videos of good people on both sides just one example and then you're like well that illusion shattering and then once that shatters you kind of like there's like a domino effect of all these things can be they've been lying to me for about everything i'm surprised we haven't uh yeah yeah i voted for obama i'm surprised we
Starting point is 00:56:17 haven't seen uh more deep fakes already all right more deep fakes they're holding on to those i think they're coming but there's a certain i think like hypnosis and brainwashing that that like do you remember growing up and being in grade school and you would learn when you're really young if you're in trouble go find a police officer find a fireman you know and we were kind of taught that there's certain institutions that you trust that are just inherently trustworthy right and i thought that about the media like i did not think the media lied i thought you know if you watch if it's if they say it on the news it's more than likely true right and when trump started talking about fake news and all this stuff i was like wow this this dude is the devil
Starting point is 00:56:54 like he's you know he's got this fringe group of psychotic weirdos that are following him and then he's telling them not to trust the news not to trust the you know whatever right he was right about everything. I was primed for the fake news because I was in eighth grade as a Marilyn Manson fan when Columbine happened. And so I see the news saying immediately Marilyn Manson is to blame for this. But I knew him as a fan being like, that doesn't seem right. He just seems like an easy target because he looks a certain way.
Starting point is 00:57:19 I think that's an interesting question. Like, when did you stop trusting the media? When did you start to think the media could buy you? Like, that's a very specific experience. For for me it was around eighth grade but i but they still had us under a spell and i think for everybody it's different right because if you know something is true like you're a fan yeah when did you when i was uh i was in uh ferguson during the riots and cnn i think it was don lemon i don't know they said there was no tear gas they were reporting that while i was standing in the field of tear gas.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And I'm just like, wow. So weird. They love it. When I was in the courtroom with Kerry Lake, I'm watching them basically catch people on stand lying against Kerry Lake. And then the NBC guys next to me writing a whole new reality. And I'm watching him report on it outside. I'm like, we started a chant outside to mock this man. Because I'm like, this is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:58:05 He's, he's totally lying. I'm not surprised at that point. Cause that was only a year ago. I can't remember what the reporter said. Was it, was this the mostly peaceful protest video? And like, there's a summer of 2020 and there's a building burning behind him. And you're sort of like, I don't know if you understand the words that you're saying. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:20 And people may remember too, in 2020, my organization walk away. We went to Dallas. We were doing rallies all over the country. A BLM protester came to our rally, charged the stage, got taken down by our security. And the police came and arrested the BLM protester. Then they came and arrested our security guard as well. So my team and I, they held our security guard for hours. So we went to the police station to find out what was going on.
Starting point is 00:58:45 When we got there, there were like 30 BLM activists outside of the police station holding a press conference. Everybody was there. ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, Telemundo. Everyone was outside. When we showed up, this is on video. People have seen it. About 20 of these guys chased us for five blocks, screaming. They were going to kill us, throwing stuff at us, taking our phones, smashing them on the ground. All of those media outlets followed us for five blocks screaming they were going to kill us throwing stuff at us taking our phones smashing them on the ground all of those media outlets followed us for five blocks
Starting point is 00:59:08 abc filmed all five blocks most of the media outlets filmed the entire thing that night on the news they ran a story they ran the press conference from blm where blm portrayed themselves as the victims of racial injustice at the walkway event mentioned nothing about what happened even though they filmed the entire thing. Chappelle talks about his last special about when he's attacked on stage by the homeless person. And then there's basically hit pieces against Chappelle talking to the homeless person and making him the victim. Yeah. Dude had a knife.
Starting point is 00:59:35 And what you said a second ago about Marilyn Manson. I mean, that's, that's why they were able to get away with what they got away with, with Jacob Chansley, the QAnon shaman, right? Because he looked unusual. So they're like, perfect. He he looks on you and the left the left who so loves to be like you know diversity and let people be their own person and you know everyone's unique whatever so you've got this guy wearing paint whatever they're like he's a weirdo get him get the weirdo yeah it made those after a summer of riots and fires right and then this little thing on january 6th with a guy with
Starting point is 01:00:05 a the mask or the paint on they but they will turn anyone into the villain who ended up being the most gentle person on january legit and the craziest thing i think about january 6th is the videos of guys who are clearly trump supporters who the first thing they do is they go up and talk to cops and say what do you need us to do and the cops are like help us push people back and they're like you got it and then these guys they're wearing like you know military looking stuff or whatever but they go to the cops first they're not fighting with cops they're like what do you need get these people out and they go okay and start telling everyone to leave and they go to prison alex jones is on video saying don't go in people can tell me alex jones told people to go in right
Starting point is 01:00:39 that's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it's not how it happened. Owen Schroer goes to jail for being outside at a permanent rally. They had a permit for what they were doing. Right. Yeah, it's getting crazy out there. Let's jump to this story from SCNR.com. Shout out to our good friend, Anna Kasparian.
Starting point is 01:00:52 She has called for the asylum seekers who attacked police to be deported immediately. This story is wild. I believe it was five criminal aliens mercilessly beat a couple police officers and were released immediately without bail. And I sit back and I put my feet up and I go, well,
Starting point is 01:01:08 okay, what's the problem? You got what you voted for. Well, anyway, now Kathy Hochul is saying they should be deported. And Anna Kasparian said they should be deported immediately. I love the asylum seekers. I didn't know that we used those terms here, but I suppose if it's true, it's true.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Kasparian was discussing a mob of asylum seekers. I wonder, is that we used those terms here, but I suppose if it's true, it's true. Because Mary was discussing a mob of asylum seekers. I wonder, is it on purpose, Cassandra? No, but like they all can be like, I am seeking asylum. Thank you. Even if they're here illegally. I'll tell you how I take it. It's like taking the asylum seeker, the left likes to say, and then saying was a violent mob that brutally attacked police officers. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:01:44 Anyway, they attacked two New Yorkork cops in times square saturday night seven were arrested and quickly released without bail the progressive youtube personality responded on her show by saying that seeking asylum here is a privilege not a right let's see we have we have a clip here i don't if it's too long i don't want to play the full thing if we can even get it to play let's uh let's do that and open it up on the old x and see if it'll play there these are not people you need to provide cover for these are people who are in the country claiming asylum they don't have a right to be here it is a privilege to be able to take advantage of our asylum program and so the left is now saying it is a right not a privilege uh anna casperian is correct and i got
Starting point is 01:02:27 a couple things to say um i'll stress asylum is a privilege we offer you and we don't have to we are nice people i ain't got no reason to let anybody in my house if i'm a nice person i'll try and help them out the second thing is congratulations anna you deserve these people because you lie all the time so have fun I'll agree with you on the political message. I won't disagree on what you're saying, but I'm not going to provide defense for someone like Anna who lies on her show, particularly about me. And when the left comes and is mad at her, good. These are your allies and your friends.
Starting point is 01:03:01 So bend the knee or shut up because I ain't coming to your defense. She's got a point though i mean it's if you're once upon a time when people used to come to our country seeking asylum it's because they were really running from something that was like life or death they were seeking salvation what if you're canadian or mexican i'm saying if that's the situation you're in maybe on day one don't come in the country start beating up police officers well if you're canadian or mexican okay if you're from hond on day one, don't come in the country and start beating up police officers. Well, if you're Canadian or Mexican. Okay. If you're from Honduras, you go to Mexico.
Starting point is 01:03:30 You're supposed to stop at the next country that can offer you asylum. Instead, they're like, we're just going to keep going until we get to America. If you're in dire need, you don't just continue on forever and ever. If I was elected Supreme Chancellor, the first thing I would do is I would immediately bang the gavel and say, asylum only applies to people who come from countries neighboring the United States. If you flew here, my question is, why did you choose here? Sorry, bye-bye. If you came here from Mexico and you said, here's what's happening, we'll review your case.
Starting point is 01:03:58 And I got to tell you this, if everybody who came here came to the border and said, I'm seeking asylum, and they were all Mexican, I'd be willing to actually bring them in and say, OK, you can come in. We'll find you a place. We'll set up a date for your hearing because they're actually from a country where we understand there are political issues pertaining to cartels. People have been killed and the number would be substantially less. The problem now is they're coming from Africa. Yeah, they're flying from Africa to Brazil, taking these a multi it costs like 10 grand to do and then they get to the american border they go um asylum and it's like bro you passed through 17 countries to get
Starting point is 01:04:35 here there's you're you're done you were running from a burglar bro he's 50 miles away there's people in yuma talking about paying uh they're coming across the border, paying people to carry their Louis Vuitton luggage. Yeah, I mean, it's weird. Yeah. It's very strange. And this is the same thing people fly into Canada and cross through the northern border. I mean, we did bring in a certain number of asylum seekers
Starting point is 01:04:54 after Biden's botched withdrawal from Afghanistan, right? We said, these are people who we've now put in danger. They worked with our government and we brought them here. But for me, the issue with asylum, and I want to be as compassionate as possible, is that we are saying ultimately, we're allowing you to stay here. We're not saying that we're going to let you stay here for a couple years. And eventually, when your country stabilizes, you can go back. Ultimately, we are just saying this is a form of immigration that we allow. And I think that's part of the misleading
Starting point is 01:05:21 narrative. There's sort of this pretend like, ultimately ultimately you'll be reunified with our country, but actually probably not. You're just here for good. We need to be more honest about what the things that we are offering people who come into this country are. I just I just think it's it's disloyal. It's not good to mislead the American voters. There are not that many Mexican citizens relative to all of the other countries.
Starting point is 01:05:41 And so if someone comes here and they can make a legitimate, let's just say a preliminary claim, we can say, okay, right now what's happening is Joe Biden's the Biden administration is opening up the gates, destroying state property and saying, everybody just whatever, have fun. And they never show up for the asylum. They are not asylum seekers. That is just absolutely not true. And so this is still propaganda. Anarchist Barron saying asylum seekers, it's not a right, it's a privilege, already shifting the narrative. They are criminal aliens who have lied to exploit our system and are committing crimes. It is not a right. Y'all can go get the ICE buses and send them back to their home countries they are not seeking
Starting point is 01:06:26 asylum but the the the side point of course is anna kasparian has had numerous occasions now along with jen huger come out with positions that are anti-leftist probably because they saw the writing on the wall i think the young turks realized that you know the immigration issue what what was what was the other issue that came out on crime crime and immigration ain't winning you any friends yeah and so the left is pro-crime and pro-illegal immigration they are i'm not i'm not trying to exaggerate they are they they literally make sure to say be gay do crime you're not gonna be able to come out and tell me they oppose it so they're for it you're gonna lose elections i think uh jen kuger and annika sparian want to win power
Starting point is 01:07:06 for their political faction but sorry you are you are now your political faction is is cohabitating with far-left extremists who want to see the country burn right has eric adams said anything about this yet like i'm curious i've been checked today i just saw like hogle's comment you know because he's he he's been like surprisingly open, vocal about the problem with the illegal immigration in this city. He's been open about it, but also he, I think, should do more with the county surrounding him. So for a while, he was just in the middle of the night
Starting point is 01:07:36 busing people to hotels in the surrounding counties. And it was the county commissioners there saying, we don't want this. We didn't ask for this. You're the one who said that New York was a sanctuary city and now you're making it so it's our burden as well. And this was true. I mean, Hochul has also helped disperse illegal immigrants throughout the state. And I think that is sort of this interesting dynamic they've put themselves in. You have Hochul, you have Adams who are actually making it. I mean, I'm sure there's always a
Starting point is 01:08:03 little bit of tension between, you know, more rural New York and New York City. But there is even more tension now when they're saying, you guys let us into this position. We can't afford or want to deal with this. And yet you think you have the right to just say, well, all of your communities are inferior to ours and can serve our needs. Remember, they were flying in illegal immigrants to Westchester. White Plains was just north,
Starting point is 01:08:25 for those who don't know, just north of the city. What would you do, question for anybody, if you were the mayor of a city seeing an influx of illegal immigrants? Build a wall. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:36 If you're the mayor of the city? Yeah, you're Eric Adams right now. What do you do? Can you deport everybody? I mean, that's my question. Where? So like put them on a bus and send them to los angeles yeah you ship them back to the texas border right uh i think one of the
Starting point is 01:08:50 things is just because i don't totally know what resources are available to mayors is that you would hopefully need to have a governor who is like yes we will remove them we will support you because theoretically your local law enforcement like if you're the mayor of a small town you don't necessarily have all the resources to say we're're getting you out of here. You know, for those that have played Baldur's Gate 3, there's this really great scenario, which you don't need to know the game to understand, where the game has three acts. In act three, you make your way to a city called Baldur's Gate. It's a city. And it is being besieged. There's a war going on. Refugees are pouring in. And there's a right when you get into the outskirts of the city, which you could describe as the suburbs, I suppose.
Starting point is 01:09:29 There's a guy arguing with squatters who are refugees saying your house is empty. It's ours. And you choose who to side with the guy who owns the house, who is traveling, comes back to find his house occupied or the squatters. It's up to you. There is a character in the game named Minthara. She is an authoritarian. I guess you'd...
Starting point is 01:09:46 Authorite, I guess. She's a paladin who thinks like... She's just like a brutal dictatorial kind of personality. There's a really funny moment where you talk to her at the gates to the city with all the refugees everywhere. And she's like, I do not understand why they're not allowing
Starting point is 01:10:00 these refugees into the city. And then you can respond like, wow, I didn't think you of all people would help refugees. And she goes, help them. these refugees into the city. And then you can respond like, wow, I didn't think you of all people would help refugees and just help them. We can use the labor. And it makes me think like, it's something like that. I'm paraphrasing, but it's really funny.
Starting point is 01:10:12 And I'm kind of like, I don't see anything wrong with that. What is wrong with someone coming to this country and saying, please help me need asylum? And our response being, I got to be honest, I don't know or care if you need asylum. You come here. We put you to work. What's the moral failing of that? Well, I don't think there's a moral failing, but I think that already happens. And I don't think it's a great system.
Starting point is 01:10:36 I mean, I'm sorry. They're unleashing these people into cities and giving them cash and putting them in hotels. I'm saying like, OK, what job can you do and we're gonna make you work i suppose the problem is it disrupts the economy for uh lower skilled labor in the united states who are trying to make money for themselves exactly i mean this is something that when um if i'm remembering this correctly when um reagan and carter were uh i can't talk right now when reagan and carter were both running for president. Carter won West Virginia in part because West Virginians were concerned about the effect of immigration on the country.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Right. Places with lower skilled or maybe union workers ultimately are the ones who feel the brunt of it. It's not people who have elite white collar jobs who feel the effects of of immigration the same way and i think i mean larry elder when he was here the way he talked about the fact that uh inner city black men or black communities are disproportionately affected by illegal immigration because of the disruption to the economy i think also ultimately you can also say that this is sort of one of the like like i remember being in high school and having this conversation with someone he was like well you're not gonna pick food out of a farm. And you want to be like, so you admit that you see them as inferior workers.
Starting point is 01:11:47 You know much, you know much. Here to do backbreaking labor. Fruit harvesting gets paid like, this was, this was 10 years ago. I went to farms in California, 15 to 20 bucks an hour. No joke. And they had illegal immigrants working there.
Starting point is 01:11:59 I talked to some young kids who were skateboarding and I asked them like, you know, what do you think about what's going on? There's these controversies. And they said their parents are uh undocumented and so they were born here but their parents they work and they're scared about what's going to happen with trump and all that and i was like how much do you how much do you guys make picking fruit here and they're like oh like 15 starting but if you've been here for a while it's like 20 bucks an hour and i'm like i know a lot of americans who would love to make 20 bucks an hour just picking fruit
Starting point is 01:12:23 the other thing is that undocumented workers or undocumented minors who come off the border if they're teenagers whatever are often the people who will work undetected they'll be you'll see these cases where it's like big manufacturing plant or whatever gets busted for child labor and then typically you can find out in the release that the children are actually undocumented in some capacity because you know they're not necessarily expected to be in school or whatever else because they're not registered in the same way that american cities are meaning that they're not protected from some of the abuses we wouldn't subject our own children to i got it if i was the mayor of new york you know i'd be doing or chicago i'd build a pyramid like the bass pro shop pyramid just a bunch of rocks you know what
Starting point is 01:13:01 i'm thinking like my question about the moral failings of saying you can come here, but you have to work is not about the economics, which we understand. We understand that disrupting the economy is bad. The question is, is it morally wrong to make an asylum seeker do work? No.
Starting point is 01:13:17 No, I don't think so. I think, you know, if you come to my house and say, can I crash on your couch? I'll be like, do the dishes and vacuum the floors and you contribute and you can stay here. Like I'll pay the rent and cover the utilities. You, you, you you you you like we we we trade right but what do you do what what could eric adams do you can't deport deporting internally in the united states just means putting on a bus and sending them somewhere
Starting point is 01:13:37 else that's basically what would happen what's happening with desantis and uh and and texas what giuliani did to the homeless that's right i gotta deport them in my neck of the woods yeah but what if and and and you you don't want to put them to work because then they're going to disrupt low-skill labor uh low-skill labor labor labor for the people who live in the city so they need to be occupied they need something to do they oh i say find uh some plot of land just outside of the city that's you know not being used and just start building a pyramid guys so you're a pharaoh i mean the thing is the pyramid's useless yeah it looks cool though occupies their time it makes them do something and uh doesn't disrupt the economy i think part of the issue i mean beyond the economic impact part of the issue
Starting point is 01:14:22 is someone who migrates illegally is committing to taking on the responsibilities of citizenship and the culture. Right. And we already talked about the fact that the culture is sort of hard to find. There are a lot of reasons that we don't have a strong national culture right now. But, you know, you could say, yes, you can come here and work. But are you saying and commit to our lifestyle and uphold our values and believe in our constitution and our way of government? Like, I just don't think you are. I think that there is more to it than just saying, well, while you're here, do something. You have to be committed to being here.
Starting point is 01:14:49 This is reminding me of when I was a professor at a community college in New York. And an observation I had was that, so English for like freshmen in college. And a lot of those kids were, just came here from Mexico and hardly knew English. Those kids worked harder than everyone else in the class who had been from that town and they had values like they were talking about ben shapiro in class openly like crazy ladies and gentlemen we've got a warning from alex jones i'm going to play this clip for you i have no idea what he's going to say hopefully it's uh he's warning uh about a terror. Let's play this clip and see what he says. We've got a great team on the border right now, Chase Geiser and some amazing other people.
Starting point is 01:15:32 I'm not going to say their names. And they met with good federal agents today who showed them the memo that they're saying imminent white supremacist attacks in Eagle Pass. Now, whether that's a real threat or not, the point is good people gave us this information. It fits into the whole Biden narrative to demonize the American people and to try to legitimize a totally open border and all the crime and all the sex trafficking that's happening. So obviously, we believe it's probably a false flag. There are some actual crazy people out there as well in this whole crisis that America is in right now. I'd say 90% chance that, yeah, they're probably provocateurs. But regardless, this is real intel.
Starting point is 01:16:09 This is real information. We've got crew down there right now. We're reporting on it all at Infowars.com forward slash show. I'll be on the air tomorrow, 11 a.m. Central on my regular show, covering it all as well. But our crew is down there at the border,
Starting point is 01:16:20 and this comes directly from high-level sources. So this is major breaking news that the feds have told the major Border Patrol facility there in South Texas, prepare for imminent white supremacist attack on the Border Patrol. So we're getting this out ahead of time. Hopefully this exposure will stop it if it's actually a real plan. I don't know all the answers. I don't know if it's a false flag. I don't know if it's false info from the feds. I don't know if it's a real. I don't know all the answers. I don't know if it's a false flag. I don't know if it's false info from the feds.
Starting point is 01:16:46 I don't know if it's real. I don't know. But the report from the feds and the memo is 100% real. So, ladies and gentlemen, let's pray for the Border Patrol and others down there. And just thank God we got eyes and ears on this. We're going to stop this. God bless and good luck. Man, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:01 We do know in this story from Daily Caller, ICE confirms it finally nabbed terrorists allowed to roam free for almost a year. The guy who was in Pennsylvania who beheaded his own dad was known to the FBI. Yeah. So I kind of, you know, I kind of wonder about these things, but I don't I don't know why anyone actually aligned with trump would go and attack anyone down there i know why the feds would stage something this is why you know uh looking at everything going on right now trump is leading cnn's projected trump to win if the election were to be held today for what purpose would someone decide to destroy all of that you're
Starting point is 01:17:46 anti-trump and you're anti-christian if you're doing that like the guy with the manifesto with his father's severed head he claimed to be christian claimed these guys are all they they're they're not they're they're not they're the anti that and they're either i believe feds or accelerationists who don't care and they want to just see the whole country burn or so they can step in this case i think actually insane might be i'm still almost i still don't know because he could just be ultra like mk ultra insane um that would still be crazy though yeah no matter how he got there but that would mean that he's uh been weaponized by the government to be what about the guy who was found with all the weapons right in that what was it like a uh was it a mall or something yeah or he
Starting point is 01:18:23 said he said i i think it was a theme park. He's like, I don't want to do this. I didn't want to do this. I just wanted to come here when it was closed or something like that. Or the guy in Maine who killed all those people, you know, who was also, yeah, well, the one that was just this past fall, I believe.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Oh, and he was found in a like box truck. At the dumpster outside or something. Something like that. But he killed a lot of people. At Walmart, yeah. He was also at a mental institution prior, hearing voices, then let loose. Well was that um um transgender identifying person i think in oregon who was uh arrested before an attack happened but had been known to the fbi posting all kinds of
Starting point is 01:18:57 things interesting case because the person was both like biologically male identified as female and also said that he had they had been going to white supremacist rallies with their now deceased boyfriend it's very my gut tells me stuff like this if you are out there being a part of this if it's going to happen you are probably being set up and it's a governor whitmer situation where like there's 20 people and there's two of you and they're going to destroy you and then use you to destroy the rest of everyone everyone else or activists come down and one guy they don't know shows up because not everybody knows each other yep starts it starts some kind of conflict shows up right well
Starting point is 01:19:33 look at occupy wall street what would happen and i believe it was actually leftists that would do this i know they actually had this in their plans you find a peaceful protest again far left, far left. We would call them black, black anarchists at the time. Now we'd refer to them as Antifa because it's like the name. 50 peaceful protesters organize a rally saying we want to hold up signs. The left wants to radicalize them. So what they'll do is they'll have one person dress up in all black, go into the middle of the crowd and then chuck a rock or a bottle at a cop. The cops then bring out orange netting and wrap everybody up and arrest all of them. Then when all these people you get some 22 year old college woman, she's in jail crying, being like, I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:20:18 I was just standing there. And then the person who orchestrated it goes, you see how evil they are. You should join us it goes it goes back to what i was saying earlier about caricatures if you can convince people of a caricature and there's already the caricature of the MAGA extremists that biden had a whole speech about it they're the biggest threat this is confirmation bias for the people who buy into the caricature it's it's crazy and i talked to a lot of people about this and like they're my family who aren't as plugged in to this world as we might be. And they'll be like, how could you even think that
Starting point is 01:20:47 it's grotesque to even question this? It's a terrorist threat. It's a beheading. This is awful. It is awful. But when you know about things like operation Northwoods, that were people like the joint chiefs of staff planning horrible false flags to start a war with Cuba, it makes it. So I have to question anything. And I know I have a skepticism bias with reality and I'm very like reluctant to believe anything. That's my own problem. But you kind of have to lead with that in times of war, which I do believe we're in a time of war. But what, what is a white supremacist attack? I mean, we talk about this, like it's a thing, like we know what that is. Right. Yeah. They're going to blame it on some type of contingent that they can
Starting point is 01:21:22 match up with the Justin Moen type character and anyone anyone else from you know j6 who knows and then talk about it and being like they're gonna go bomb a you know border patrol but in the in the last eight years and honestly probably more than that there are only two incidents that they can even describe as a white supremacist attack charlottesville right and january 6th and charlottesville was pretty much a nothing burger right uh so i don't i mean why not just say uh uh border radicals you know a group of border radicals they've been selling a certain narrative about mag extremists who are white supremacists adjacent you know in their minds and we might understand that there's been white supremacist attacks i'm putting that in quotes for those listening but to them they that there's been white supremacist attacks. I'm putting that in quotes for those listening. But to them, they think there's been a whole slew of white supremacist attacks.
Starting point is 01:22:07 This is the FBI saying it. This isn't Alyssa Milano. I mean, the FBI is wondering, oh my God, the white supremacists are coming. What is the history? I'm just going to start referring to leftists as white supremacists. Well, they are. They legit are. But this is the thing.
Starting point is 01:22:22 We do think they are. Segregation. Exactly. Speaking down to black people. Exactly. the believing black people on spot to get ids they're white supremacists right the thing is whatever our faction is we try so hard to steal man and actually honor the arguments but that doesn't work for the average person who's apolitical yeah so you know let me just say that the krasensteins are white supremacists i think they genuinely are i think annika sparing is a white supremacist i think she genuinely is and i'm not trying to be funny i think these people hold views where they'll deny of course we're not white supremacists but if you if you were to bring up like is a black only space
Starting point is 01:22:58 permitted if you made they're gonna say yes and they're gonna make an argument that is overtly racist they're gonna be in favor of affirmative action. What does affirmative action mean? You know, affirmative action, like Harvard, for instance, this lawsuit, an Asian kid, two Asian kids, what the left does is they look at them both and they go, they look like each other, so they're not allowed in school. That's racist. That makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:23:20 You could get an Asian kid from South Central who's like, not the same culture as a kid from from china but they're just like but they look the same so we're not gonna they're racist they're white supremacists mark cuban is a white supremacist mark cuban is absolutely a white supremacist i will say this unequivocally mark cuban i hope you hear this you are a white supremacist you are i mean he's even he's even reposting all these these posts from people talking about jews right thinking he's being clever by doing it i just think the dude is a is a deep-seated white supremacist his whole view is that so he mark cuban made this argument that if you have too many white people you need to start asking yours i mean this is a remarkable white supremacist
Starting point is 01:24:03 argument he's like you run a successful business for five years and you look around and all your 30 employees are all white. So you think I should hire a black woman. Yo, you're a white supremacist. In your mind, the idea that you're surrounded by white people with a successful business. I mean, think about where that starts. What he is telling you is his business succeeded on his predisposition to only hire white people okay let me let me stress this he is he is he doesn't understand that he's saying this what he is saying
Starting point is 01:24:32 projection is everything when someone when someone says something to you like uh i'll tell you i i i knew someone who worked at fusion when i worked there and she said to me one time she's like be honest with me, Tim. Like, how many of your friends, like you're hanging out with the guys, like how many of them are joking and laughing about like raping women? And I was like, are you kidding me? None. And she goes, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Come on, be honest. Like, how many? And I was like, zero. Are you for real? In her worldview, when she sees guys, she actually thinks they're all having parties talking about raping women. Right. Genuinely from this feminist narrative.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Mark Cuban, in his mind, is thinking businesses are predisposed to succeed with tons of white people working there. I don't have that preconception. He's quite literally the fact that he made the argument scenario. It's been five years. Your business business is successful. You look around and it's all white guys i'm like okay what makes you think that's the scenario to choose from that could be you're in a majority white neighborhood they exist and then he immediately says i should hire a black woman yeah because you're racist you think that a black woman's
Starting point is 01:25:41 perspective is fundamentally different from white person. Absolutely. Yeah, that's racist. Soft bigotry of low expectations. I mean, beyond that, it's the assumption that I shared with him that video I saw this weekend. It's from Jubilee. It's awesome. Six black guys and a white guy all wearing blindfolds. And the goal is to figure out who the white guy is.
Starting point is 01:26:00 And they can't. The white guy talks and he's from South Central. They can't figure out who he is. They vote a bunch of people off. They vote black guys. They vote for black guys to be white. They're they can't the the white guy talks and he's from south central they can't figure out who he is they vote a bunch of people off they vote black guys they vote for black guys to be white they're like that guy sounds white he's out i said that to him i'm like imagine you actually put on a blindfold and tried to hire the black woman or imagine you looked at a resume and tried to you wouldn't be able to you might you might look down and be like ah they went to school in south central they must be black and then a white guy walks in you're like huh
Starting point is 01:26:24 because that the the argument he's making has nothing to do with it so anyway long story short You might look down and be like, ah, they went to school in South Central. They must be black. And then a white guy walks in. You're like, huh. Because the argument he's making has nothing to do with it. So anyway, long story short. Oh, yeah. Mark Cuban, hands down, is a white supremacist. That's not an exaggeration either. Just because they're doing the royalty of, but we're so much better than they are. The lowly people need our help. That's what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:26:46 They'd be nothing without us. That's like an awful, awful racist. Yeah. They literally think that, that you would, they need you to survive.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Yes. You should. Yes. Also, somebody should clip that segment because it was hilarious. While we're at it, can someone make like
Starting point is 01:26:59 some pictures of him in a certain white hood, perhaps, Mark Cuban? I think he needs that on Twitter. I don't know about any of the meme stuff. Disavow, disavow. No, Tim's not asking for that. That's me. Just send those directly to Shane Cashman. him a certain white hood perhaps mark cuban i think he needs that i don't know about any
Starting point is 01:27:05 no tim tim's not asking for that that's that's me just send those directly to shane cashman it's better than the pelosi ai things i've been i've been getting so you're still getting them because you they've slowed down i feel like you're seeking them out at this point you're still getting them imagine that's my thing uh i just think it's interesting that like when we hear terms like white supremacist attack it's like we've all become so conditioned right to believe that that's a thing right but there's literally like no precedent and no history to back it up like when the milkovskis went out and protected their property it was you know blm came into their neighborhood knocked out they went out there
Starting point is 01:27:38 because there was an established precedent of blm doing that they knew what was up there like you guys are coming here to throw rocks through our windows. It broke into their property. Right, but what I'm saying is they knew to protect their property because there have been weeks and weeks and weeks of this movement going out and doing violence and damage and vandalizing property
Starting point is 01:27:59 and things like that. We know what a BLM attack is. There was a reason why they had an instinct to go out and protect their property. but what is a white supremacist attack what is this study that came out from the adl and i think it was uh it was i think their 2019 like extremist report and the conclusion was white supremacist is the biggest threat to everything and they they were going through all these examples and it's really broad the terms they describe it in you know anyone who has a white supremacist tattoo who's involved in a crime that was considered a white supremacist attack. One of these examples being a man who was involved in some prison gang that's like white supremacist affiliated who with his wife murdered his two year old child and like kept the body in a freezer.
Starting point is 01:28:38 And they were like, that's a terrorist. That's example of terrorism. Or they included the Parkland shooting because I guess, I can't remember his name right now, but the shooter had, I guess, maybe drawn a swastika on something. But even in the report, they're like, this shooter specifically said this was not racially motivated and the police have never considered it a hate crime. So they're inflating their own data just to say it's real. This is real. Trust us.
Starting point is 01:29:02 We're the authority. It's white supremacists to defend your life. How dare you? It's crazy. Or to have an American flag in the front of your house. This is real. Trust us. We're the authority. It's white supremacists to defend your life. How dare you? It's crazy. Or to have an American flag in the front of your house. Or to do this. Yeah. You know, that's why none of this means anything anymore.
Starting point is 01:29:13 And why I keep telling people, like, don't be afraid of being called names for standing up for things that you know are logical. That's the thing that I think has taken a really long time, because I think this fear of being called racist kept a lot of conservative voices in submission throughout the early 2000s into 2010 whatever else and again because trump got called racist so much right and people were like i don't think that's the case i think that's wrong it started to sort of fall apart but i think there is that label i think that that fear of being labeled or being misunderstood within your community you don't know what the social ramifications are, is enough to quell people from speaking out.
Starting point is 01:29:46 He also wasn't defensive about it. You know, he was called a racist for years and years and years and people watched as he just kind of like went on with his business and did the next thing, did the next thing. People started to realize like, oh, maybe I don't have to care about that so much.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Maybe I don't have to sit around worrying. Because his behavior was going to prove himself either way. Look at his history. He happens to be friends with lots of black people yeah and he was in every rap song like the rest of us every rap song that i rapped for years right they he was beloved by a by everyone he was made fun of because he was on a reality show and he looks goofy but like yeah they turned him into that show what did obama say actually watch it the american dream is to be donald trump did he really say that?
Starting point is 01:30:25 Wait, who said that? Obama said something like that. So he endorsed Donald Trump. Soft endorsement there. Yeah, he should use that for a campaign. Why is he not doing that? Trump, come on. We need this.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Is this a deep fake, Tim? Reuters says it was a misquote. Misquoted. They're like, disavow, disavow that. Well, now we see. It's a. Oh, he said something like that. He didn't write it was the American dream.
Starting point is 01:30:53 He mentioned him. He said Americans have a continuing normative commitment to the ideals of individual freedom and mobility values that extend far beyond the issue of race in the American mind. The depth of this commitment may be summarily dismissed as the unfounded optimism of the average American. I may not be Donald Trump now, but just you wait. If I don't make it, my children will. So he admitted that everyone wants to grow up to be Donald Trump. So it's a paraphrasing.
Starting point is 01:31:17 It's a paraphrasing of what Obama said. So actually, I think that quote is actually apt. It's not a literal quote. Obama expressed the idea that it is the American dream to be Donald Trump. I got to tell you, Barack Obama said he hopes his children grow up to be Donald Trump. That's crazier. Can we get that quote? I mean, that's wild.
Starting point is 01:31:40 I'm having so much fun with the AI stuff now that I don't do it, though. But I think someone should also create Barack Obama with Lil Lil Pump's Trump tattoo and we should just plaster that this is gonna help this is gonna I don't like that that's the thing that like bothers me about AI which is that you know it's funny to us in like the main sense but ultimately you don't know what someone's gonna twist and put out to you and be like this is real I feel like I'd rather just say everyone stop using it immediately i also bothers me because the more you engage with the more it learns about you that is how i feel i do i actually despise ai i think it should burn i don't like it i've never actually used it although
Starting point is 01:32:13 it's been so much fun to do it uh through other people thank you for whoever made that taylor swift tool thing but uh yeah no i think you should actually burn ai because it's going to take everyone's jobs eventually well i yes i hate it too but the reason why i hate it is because now people can use it to draft emails and things like that so it's like when i'm hiring staffing positions and i'm getting these really nicely written emails which is very very important to me i'm like you know if you can't if if you have bad grammar if you're a bad writer i'm like i don't think this is going to work out that's like a big thing for me. So then you're kind of fooled into believing this person has skills that they don't have. And then all of a sudden you hire them and you're just like, you're an idiot and you can't write.
Starting point is 01:32:53 How did this happen? Facade. Yeah. And there's artists using it to make art, to do songs. You know, I genuinely think there'll be a future not too far away where your favorite artist. I wonder if you'll be able to differentiate their AI song from their own song, because they might shift to just having AI do it.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Or they're dead. They've been gone a long time and the record label's like, hey, we got this old Johnny Cash song. Here it goes. I don't like it at all. It's probably- We're well beyond that. We are a year away from being like,
Starting point is 01:33:24 whatever your AI's name is. Ianan play me a new song by tool and it will just auto generate everything in their style with their lyrical sense and presence and everything and it'll just make a song would it be interested in listening to that song i don't know i mean it's one one important thing people need to understand is a big a big component of music is an attachment an emotional attachment to uh nostalgia or to the past yeah so for instance many of you may know a song you never actually cared for when it's on the radio but you've grown to like it reminds you it connects you to those memories the kind of music you like obviously comes it's inherited it's it's it's it's it's you get it from your parents uh this is why like they have different kinds of music around the
Starting point is 01:34:09 world because you grew up listening to music in your community and then you're like i like this i like this feeling i like the beat i like the time signature i like the instruments and uh if you were to play an ai new song you might like general style, but will you be attached to that song in any way? Well, we wouldn't, but young people who don't know, have no past, you know, history with music or relationship with music. Only if the song is distributed. If it's a, if you tell an AI to make the song, who's distributing that song to anyone but you. This is something Post Malone told Joe Rogan about that, that really is weird to me.
Starting point is 01:34:44 And it was, and it weirded out Post Malone that people could make songs by him, but personalized to them. So then it wouldn't mean something, but just to that person, right? But it's him. It sounds like him. And they're singing,
Starting point is 01:34:54 like he's singing their name. Yeah, I reject all of that. I don't like it at all. So don't take any of my suggestions. Hannah Clare put me in my place. You're right. You just have to be on guard about AI always. Art, video games, everything, it's i was i was talking about balder's gate
Starting point is 01:35:07 three a moment ago we are only a few years away from full procedurally generated work like there's not going to be a gta 7 or 8 it's going to be gta i and you're it's going to be like you're going to you're going to download the game you're going to load it up and it's going to procedurally generate a unique game experience all the voice acting automatic ai will just do it so we're talking about the gap between uh what are we coming up to actually it is gta 7 isn't it i'm not sure what's the what's the new one that's coming out is it seven six six is it really okay so then whatever is there's not gonna be a next one the next one is it took so many years to make this one that by the time they're ready to make another one or planning on even releasing one it'll all be ai and procedurally generated you're gonna tell
Starting point is 01:35:56 you're gonna tell the you're gonna boot it up and it's gonna be like what kind of character do you want and what kind of scenario do you want and you what kind of scenario do you want? And you're going to say 1920s mobsters and give me like, I don't know, Godfather kind of vibes. And then it will just make you your own game storyline and everything. It makes me want to hold on to real life things even more than like, it makes me want to go to a concert with like people who love an artist and stand in the crowd and hear that song. It makes me want to turn off the screen with like people who love an artist and stand in the crowd and hear that song. Like it makes me want to turn off the screen more because this that's that's the only
Starting point is 01:36:29 barrier I really has. Like it is contained to what you plug yourself into. It makes me want to, you know, buy tickets to do things for now. But that's the question I was just going to pose to everybody. I mean, like as technology advances, do you think it's possible that we'll actually come into an era of like a renaissance of people who are like i want to completely unplug from all of this technology like i want to go through back to a time where we talk to each other and i have to go to your house to see you and like
Starting point is 01:36:54 i could see entire colonies like forming where people like no phones i know i do that and i think you can probably talk about this more but the the first time for me was this movement especially among younger and younger parents and it's starting to happen among like mom influencers where they don't want to put their kids faces online for a long time it was i mean especially when social media first started it was like oh here's my adorable baby and do whatever but more and more people are saying from the get go i don't want my kids who have to have an online presence i want them to be able to consent as adult it shifts the the relationship and people are more fearful of the internet i don't necessarily agree i agree somewhat uh we talked about this uh this story treatment i was talking about the members only the last city
Starting point is 01:37:35 and what happens when humans migrate underground all that stuff some people a lot of people but 95 they're going to plug in in two seconds anything you want you will be given there's literally no reason if you're if the person says themselves man i long for a world where we don't use these phones we don't play these games and it was like the 90s man oh well where are you going to get that are you going to go get it in your farm community or tell everyone not to use your phones no you're going to plug in and you're going to tell the machine to give you two and it will give you your world where you can interact with fake people and uh for all you know you're in it right now it's funny because when i moved down
Starting point is 01:38:11 west virginia i was like i kept telling everyone in new york it's like the 90s here third eye blinds on the radio every day you know it's amazing everything felt like the 90s uh and and but but there's still tell them the, but there's pockets of the, you know, people who are obsessed with the internet everywhere. And the internet condensed the whole world into a little small town. I'm not convinced. I,
Starting point is 01:38:32 I know you have to, I think in 2020, look at how radically different people handled the shutdown. There were so many people like, I love the shutdown. I hate being around people. I hate going outside. It was like the greatest error of my life.
Starting point is 01:38:43 And then a lot of people got like chronic depression. You know, I'm very much a social person. For me, it was terrible. I hated it. And I think that if you're, I think it sounds very lonely. I think a very technological future sounds incredibly lonely. And I think for people who crave socialization, they're not going to be okay with this. They do a lockdown in New York.
Starting point is 01:39:01 People are furious and upset. And they say, don't worry, plug in your neural implant. And you guys will be hang you will experience hanging out in new york as if you're not in lockdown and you won't know the difference and so there will not be depression and loneliness not just but there is a difference there's a difference and some people i i think the overwhelming majority of people will not experience it some people might be like it's fake i can't take it i can't take it right most people are going to be like i can't take being locked in this box they'll plug in the world around them flashes as their mind enters the digital metaverse and in this digital reality they can still talk to their friends it is actually their friend that they go downstairs
Starting point is 01:39:40 they walk into the bar and they say meet me meet me there me there at seven. They walk in. Everything feels normal. Feels the same. They order a cheeseburger. Tastes the same. Everything is indistinguishable. And then when they're done, they go, all right, man, I'll see you tomorrow. And then disappear from the reality. And they wake up back in their apartment instantly back home with no Uber in the real world where
Starting point is 01:39:58 they're locked down. Well, I got Oculus Quest when I was on house arrest. And I can tell you it was not a substitute for going outside. Yes, I'm talking about Neuralink. I understand. Oculus Quest when I was on house arrest. And I can tell you it was not a substitute for going outside. I understand. When they can actually read and write to your brain and you can plug in and physically feel and interact with digital objects, that's going to be a whole, that's a game changer.
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Starting point is 01:41:20 Here we go. Shane H. Wilder says, Submarine sandwiches are submarines by definition. It's literally in the name. Maybe that's what happened to that guy who went down to the depths of the ocean he was in a sandwich the whole time all right bf says tim have you tried to get senator mark wayne mullen on the show yet he's the one who tried to fight the union boss i know that was hilarious and uh i think we may have reached out to him but i don't know what happened maybe i know that some people don't like him either the trooper says you need 50 doses of the vaccine to protect yourself from bob from what from the bob i just started i didn't read the sentence before i actually did the
Starting point is 01:41:57 voice it's an exaggerated fauci voice but uh if you didn't know i am the voice of dr fauci on freedom tunes it's actually in my IMDB credits. So I voice a cartoon Dr. Fauci. And it was really funny because he's like, as he was fading from the news, like my role on Freedom Tunes just dries up. Seamus used to be like, I got a script for you today. Like, please read this. And just constantly giving me scripts. And he fired me.
Starting point is 01:42:23 He didn't let me go. Yeah, because Fauci is just not culturally relevant anymore. And I begged Seamus. I'm like, Seamus, I can do other voices, he had to let me go man yeah because fauci is just not culturally relevant anymore and i and i beg shams i'm like shames i can do other voices man just let me audition and he's like nah he's like you get fauci and that's all right here we go uh aaron audi says never mask never mask never ask a man his income a woman her age and a democrat what they will do to stop donald trump woof tim jakes is a busload of migrants arrived in colorado springs el paso county sunday yesterday county commissioners said the colorado springs and el paso county will not provide sanctuary to any kind of migrants colorado springs is a fairly
Starting point is 01:43:00 right-wing area so i'm not surprised but uh you know if i was eric adams and like i gotta be honest like what i would actually do if i was the mayor of new york and these migrants are coming in i would give a statement i'd be like people of new york i just want you all to to know that i will do nothing in my power to deal with these illegal immigrants i will literally do nothing and uh i assume the problem will take care of itself. Thank you and have a nice day. For real, though, the idea that he's going to spend taxpayer money and facilitate the criminal immigration and the criminal aliens, give them hotel rooms and all that stuff. That's only making things worse. The best bet is you chose to come to a place with no resources and I guaranteed you nothing. Have fun. And what happens? They leave. That's it.
Starting point is 01:43:44 The local the locals won't tolerate it the police won't tolerate it no special treatment cops treat them any other way get them out that's it go home all right let's grab some more free men die free says when you said mr bocus wet himself collapsed and couldn't move i forgot we were talking about Bocas and not Biden. Well, he went, he's sleeping right now. He decided to leave the table and he went and just, he's napping. So he's still alive.
Starting point is 01:44:19 But it was, so what happened was he's losing a lot of weight. He's been on a special diet for a long time. He's been getting a bunch of medical treatment. He got stem cells and we have artificially extended his life for over a year uh for those that don't know mr bocus is our cat and uh at some point a year and a half ago he started slowing down and we didn't think much of it until one day he passed out and it turns out that as a street cat he has underdeveloped kidneys and a defect in his heart. It's because from the streets. And so there's like, there's nothing you can do when the kidneys start failing. It happens to a lot of cats.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Unfortunately for him, it happened when he was four. He is now five. So he's made it quite a ways and we're happy that he did. Today, he was given a little harness so that he could finally go out and smell the beautiful flowers. There's no flowers, but you you know it was 50 something degrees i think the excitement was too much for him must have elevated his his heart rate and then he just wet himself right there and then fell down and he couldn't get up and was just hyperventilating and so he was given space given some water and he got better and then we came up here to do the show he followed us up and so we we absolutely allowed mr oh he's awake and he's hanging out he knew you're talking about him yeah you know he can jump up on the
Starting point is 01:45:30 counter so that's that's like four feet four and a half you know four feet or whatever he walks around he seems has no problems jumping up and down but he's not running around you know we got another cat named seamus now seamus is a chunky boy you know he's got it he's got he's he's on a diet because he's he's chubby he was a a wild cat we we uh domesticate him over the past uh i don't think domesticated him but we like yeah i think it's the right word over the past month and now he just uh it's amazing because he's about one year one year old and he was living outside he was living in our garage so we did the whole stockholm syndrome thing for him now he just like lays on the couch with his arms up like sprawled out just like this is paradise so and he started like hanging around your house i think he was ultimately
Starting point is 01:46:15 kind of testing you guys out he's like maybe maybe i'm supposed to be an indoor cat these are cat people michael pepper says enjoy your show and great guest and my kids have i really like your music but can you tell me when a country has changed with just words i don't know what that means country has changed with just words in terms of the the depth of language that we're in and we use treason in ways maybe we should oh right like when uh is that what you mean so like when the left changes the definition of gender so now gender and sex mean two different things and what that does is it retroactively changes laws because they're textualists
Starting point is 01:46:50 not originalists. The law says a person cannot be discriminated on based on their gender and they go oh but gender means your self expression and the Supreme Court goes that's correct even though when the law was written that's not what it meant. That's how they change everything. That being said not
Starting point is 01:47:05 the next song we're putting out it's going to be the end of february but the next song after that we're going to make the same song in four different genres sick and like the goal is same tempo same vocal melody but instrumentation like i want everything to be as the same as possible, but just different instruments. And like, you know, just imagine if you replaced all the instruments in like a weekend song with like stomping on a stage and like a banjo or something. That'd be cool. So we want to do something like that where we write one song, but in four different genres. And we're doing this because Tom McDonald pointed out. pointed out i think it's like nikki minaj or megan lee stanley i can't remember which one they released eight versions of the same song
Starting point is 01:47:49 that way when they go to their fans and say if you want to help me win buy all of them and each you can buy eight songs and that counts as eight purchases of one one song on the charts it allows one person to buy the song eight times what's the difference is it like remixes voc uh instrumental acapella uh no bass heavy distortion like they you can do whatever so if like people making music yeah and uh and also because of tiktok now bands are releasing 2x speed half time speed right yep it used to be like if you if you look at old records you see like a different version like radio edit version, beat mix version, all these different things. That's what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:48:29 They're doing it so it counts towards that final count that allows them to get onto Billboard, etc., etc. Oh, the loopholes. Yep, indeed. Yeah, I think the issue is because this may be the worst time for Tom McDonald to release a song because Nicki Minaj and Megan Thee Stallion are beefing. They're like trying to beat each other on the charts.
Starting point is 01:48:46 So any other release week and they steamroll right through. He's like an independent candidate. He is the RFK of the rap game right now. However, apparently, according to Billboard, the three of them, Tom McDonald, Nicki Minaj, and Megan Thee Stallion are competing for number one.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Wow. So if everybody wants to see Ben Shapiro have the biggest song, and it's Tom McDonald, Nick Minaj, and Megan Thee Stallion are competing for number one. Wow. So if everybody wants to see Ben Shapiro have the biggest song, and it's Tom McDonald, right? Ben Shapiro's featured on it. Shout out to Tom McDonald. Factsrap.com.
Starting point is 01:49:15 You can buy the song, but I actually, I got to tell you this right now. If you haven't bought the song on iTunes, I'm going to try and say this carefully and clearly.
Starting point is 01:49:24 If you have not purchased the song on iTunes, I'm going to try and say this carefully and clearly. If you have not purchased the song on iTunes, do that. We didn't do a promo for it because I don't have a good way of linking iTunes. It's difficult. But if you go to iTunes, download it, sign up, whatever it is, or if you already have it, and you search for the song Facts, F-A-C-T-S by Tom McDonald featuring Ben Shapiro, buy it on iTunes. I'm going to say that one more time. For anybody who has not purchased the song on iTunes,
Starting point is 01:49:50 I can't say much more than that. I can only say I will not be surprised if it turns out on Tuesday some dirty games were played to stop Tom McDonald from succeeding and being bigger. Here's the important thing okay guys tom mcdonald mentioned how uh these artists will put up multiple versions of the same song their song then appears on the top of the charts the reason why this is so important it's not because ben's rapping it's funny but a lot of people are gonna give up been rapping no it's because the satanic music demonic music figuratively literally, that they claim is the top of the charts is not actually that popular.
Starting point is 01:50:28 They don't have fans that can, like, they do not have enough fans to actually compete in this regard unless they're pulling dirty tricks. And when Tom McDonald makes a song saying, our music, like, quite literally the song, the chorus is, we're not telling your kids to be thugs and your daughters to be hoes. We're talking about important issues and our music and our lyrics are good and they're trying to keep that out. The real issue is the music industry wants to sow far left degenerate ideology to children and they use dirty tricks to make it happen. And when you get someone big and popular like Tom McDonald teaming up with Ben Shapiro and they should be number one, I can just say, don't be surprised if come Tuesday some dirty games were played.
Starting point is 01:51:10 I think the music industry takes advantage of the dead internet theory. I remember looking at Katy Perry tweets and if you go look at the comments, there's a ton of comments, but they were all fake. Yeah. Clearly fake, like regurgitated the same thing, sometimes different languages. And I think they try to present this false fame fame this is how they prop up people like biden i believe uh max kaiser made a great point and stacy herbert that when they were in europe in uh 2015 2016 all they heard was trump sucks everybody hates him they can't believe he's running and they genuinely believed wow why is trump even running he's not popular at all then Then they landed in the United States in North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:51:47 And as soon as they got out and drove into the suburbs, they went, Trump's going to win because they saw Trump signs and nothing else. Right. The machine lies to you to make you believe Joe Biden and Democrats have popularity. It's not true. I'm willing to bet even when you go to like D.C. So I mentioned like I go to D.C. like MGM National Harbor, not just like I'm talking about the whole area with the Ferris wheel. It's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:52:12 You get dinner. I'll meet someone who will get angry. No, I don't like Donald Trump. What do you mean? I actually believe they do. And they're just scared that they're scared of what it is to be outed in public for being a Trump supporter. I'm in I'm in Chicago and I've got a black shuttle bus driver and he's and as we're driving, he just goes, so who are you voting for in November? And I was like and I was like, well, it is tough right now. And he goes, just say Trump.
Starting point is 01:52:37 And then I laughed and I was like, yeah, it's probably Donald Trump. The reason I was going to say it's tough is because the primary right now and I don't know if they're going to try and stop Donald Trump. So it's a nuanced question. But if you want a straight answer like that, dude, I'll vote for Trump. The reason I was going to say it's tough is because the primary right now, and I don't know if they're going to try and stop Donald Trump, so it's a nuanced question, but, oh, if you want a straight answer like that, dude, I'll vote for Trump. Absolutely. And he was like, yeah, I'm all for Trump, man. And I'm like, glad you're not scared to say this was Chicago. And I'm like, good. But the media
Starting point is 01:52:58 machine wants to lie to you, to trick you, and so that's the game being played right now. Let's grab some more super chats. Jacob Thompson says, Hey, Tim, something that no one is talking, taking into account is the corporations that will move to stop a civil war. Specifically, the big tech data centers are everywhere and a massive amount of capital is in danger during a civil war in the orders of billions. I agree. Understand this, though.
Starting point is 01:53:22 Civil war is not. I hereby declare the civil war. We say started with Fort Sumter. If it really was about states seceding, then it was well before Fort Sumter, before Abraham Lincoln even got inaugurated. Several, I think, what, seven states seceded from the union and then four followed after Abraham Lincoln called up a mobilization to suppress the rebellion. And even then, no one said civil war. So sure, big tech might be like, we don't want this, but nobody snaps their fingers and declares it. What happens? Okay. Florida deploys a Florida state guard to Texas. They're guarding the border. Biden says enough is enough. We're not here to destroy state property or fight with you, but we're going to start processing migrants again, and we're going to find another way to do it.
Starting point is 01:54:07 Florida State Guard says we're under orders to not allow you to do it. Some shots are fired because of escalation happens. It's the middle of the night. People, tensions are getting hot. Border Patrol screaming at these guys. FBI, FPS shows up. They're yelling at each other saying, back the F up now. And some shots get exchanged somehow in the heat of it.
Starting point is 01:54:28 Nobody's injured. Everyone would say, oh, wow, that was crazy. I can't believe that happened. Following that, Joe Biden is furious and says, I am going to declare, I'm going to invoke the Insurrection Act and deploy U.S. Armed Forces to go and shut this thing down. Now, I'm in charge. Soldiers show up. Florida, Texas, Nebraska, these other states say back the F up. And then people think there's no way a civil war is going to break out.
Starting point is 01:54:55 Locals are watching saying this is crazy what's going on. And then it does. That was basically the first battle of Bull Run. It wasn't like either side said, we hereby declare. Fighting started because it was a game of chicken. So if something does kick off in this country, you're never going to see it coming. The Americans in the Civil War did not think it was even happening when it was happening. So we'll see.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Majin Sora says, if a civil war does spark, what side do you think the millions of migrants that have come here in the past few years illegally would join? That's actually a tough question. They may actually just fight wherever they are. I know we've said and many people speculate that the feds and Democrats will say they don't want you here. Fight for us and we'll give you citizenship. But when it comes to like the people in Texas, yeah, Texas is going to say the same thing. They're going to say you live here and they're attacking us. And I think every state would just say.
Starting point is 01:55:51 Join up. It's also possible that, you know, especially if there are enclave of immigrant communities, that they would be like, we're just going to defend our territory and we don't want anything to do with rescue, which is problematic in its own right. Wow. Because then you have like groups that are just like, I not out of here right all right yeah that's the question that's the thing about like loyalty to wherever you're going here we go you want to you want to join the community yeah jared martinez says omg we are living the star wars a long-term senator becomes the leader of the galactic republic and uses a bunch of cloned Mexicans to make an empire. But they're not from Mexico. These people are coming from all over the world. Yeah, but- Cloned Venezuelans.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Yeah. That's hugely people are getting wrong here. It's not Mexicans. It's not. Just as people that are coming through Mexico doesn't mean that they are Mexicans. Very easy to mistake. Brian Justice says during the Civil War, the Union enlisted around half a million immigrants to fight against the Confederate forces. 25% of the entire Union Army were immigrants, while 18% were children of immigrants. Yep. Endell Wayfair says IRL with Poso again. Dunk on his Taylor Swift cringe.
Starting point is 01:56:59 Culture war. Fight him. Well, I'll just say this. Not to just get into the whole Taylor Swift thing again. It's ridiculous that anybody ever even brought up the stupid PSYOP argument. I will just leave it at there are people who are in Congress,
Starting point is 01:57:17 in the Republican Party that you all know and love, who are freaking out that Benny, Jack, and others have pushed this narrative. And the idea is typically is generally they're sabotaging their opportunity to get suburban white women by doing this. These people want the Republicans want to go to suburban white women and convince them we are the appropriate choice for your kids. Loudoun County is a great example. These are Loudoun County is a D. a DC suburb of people who are like Democrat leaning and slightly moderate.
Starting point is 01:57:50 And then when they saw what was going on in their schools, lost it and helped vote in a Republican governor. Now with the Taylor Swift psyop narrative, it is poisoning the well. So when these Republicans go to areas like Loudoun and say what they're doing to your kids is crazy and they go, yeah, but you guys are screaming that Taylor Swift works for the Pentagon like I can't vote for you. And so they're getting they're like, stop, stop, stop. We're trying to win these people over. Nobody's trying to win over hardcore libs in New York City. They're trying to win over like 30 year old women who are in the suburbs who aren't very political,
Starting point is 01:58:23 but are concerned about what's happening with their their five-year-old kids going to school and they're like what's going on so anyway moving on that's something i'm worried about with like and i i think michael rapaport is an idiot but like i don't think we should say that and i'm gonna say this i don't think we should push him away if he's going to be saying i want to vote for trump yeah we need these people's votes to overwhelm the system and uh you know i didn't think that day would come with rapaport gandalf gandalf the base says tim in new and old canon palpatine created the clone army and manipulated the republic to use it then tossed the clones to the side after the war and replaced them for stormtroopers dems will toss when done i mean there you go right let's grab some more we will scroll down where are we at paul lavoey lavoey simulation theory proves the bible is true if there was a beginning then there
Starting point is 01:59:16 will be an end god will prove himself i mean honestly i do love simulism because you get these like secular tech bros who are like it is entirely possible that we're living in a simulation and then my response is so you're saying that like a more powerful entity than us created our universe and you see where we're going with this and then you know you got to understand if they really do believe we're in a simulation then it's entirely possible the earth is only 5 000 years old it is entirely possible that dinosaur bones were put there by God as artifacts to be discovered. It's, you know, I describe it like
Starting point is 01:59:49 when you play GTA and you're going around Liberty City and there's a skyscraper, you know nobody in Liberty City in the video game actually built the skyscraper. It was programmed to exist. That could be how reality works too.
Starting point is 02:00:01 If you believe in simulation theory, the Bible's not far-fetched. They start converting tech bros by being like he is the programmer of the heavens well for real though like because shamus and i have talked about this when i've talked to people about simulation theory i'm like my friend i gotta stop you there i recommend you go to some theologians christian philosophers and scholars and jewish and and even muslim and buddhists because the questions you are asking about simulation theory are like theology 101 did someone create us and create everything we are in what is the nature of reality what is our purpose if you're asserting
Starting point is 02:00:38 the most rudimentary thing that a more advanced species programmed this thing yeah you're basically saying that there's a god i'm i'm not saying there's a single abrahamic god because in this it would be arguably a pantheon like if i programmed a video game with a bunch of people in it they would refer to me as their god their creator but i'm like yeah but you know shane's over here too and i recommend watching movie i think it's called like the nines with Ryan Reynolds and Megan McCarthy. Yeah. I don't want to spoil the movie for you though, but it's,
Starting point is 02:01:07 it's, it follows this general premise. So I recommend it. It's a weird movie, but you know, check it out. Sensei says, okay, Tim,
Starting point is 02:01:14 hear me out. If you run for office in the USA and you swear your oath, the constitution, we take, we take tour ring finger, your ring finger on your left hand to prove your worth. I don't, what does that mean? What?
Starting point is 02:01:27 No idea. I'm just saying I would never be in office. And if I was, I'd get impeached right away. I'd just be like, dude, I'm not playing political games. If bad thing happens, bad thing gets shut down. Well, you wouldn't get impeached based on the current pace of impeachments in the U.S. government. Fair point. All right.
Starting point is 02:01:47 We'll grab one more. Veritas Lux says, AI is inevitable. Fearing it does nothing. I am sure there are plenty of people cursing video streaming and podcasts. Understand it. Learn it. Position yourself to understand how to use it. Wrong. podcasts. Understand it, learn it, position yourself to understand how to use it. We talk all day about how social media is making people depressed and suicidal and destroying the
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Starting point is 02:02:31 Brandon, do you want to shout anything out? I do. We just relaunched the walkway movement today. Brand new group. This group had grown to over 511,000 before big tech took it down after January 6th. I'm asking everybody out there watching to help me out by joining. And all you have to do- Yeah, it is.
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Starting point is 02:03:42 You can find me at shane cashman on all the places online uh my most recent book from the inverted world series is that uh ghost of the civil war.com it's me looking for some lost gold and getting in trouble with some witches in a coven in georgia so check it out new live show is coming soon new live show is coming real soon looks awesome same youtube channel i believe yeah yeah yep we uh we will be launching live sunday evenings i believe um and it's going to be a lot of fun i can't wait to do that yeah uh i am on the wide view so everyone is looking there hello i'm right here i'm surge.com uh i did like your new studio it looks sick thanks and i'm excited for the new show in general so let's do the new show uh tim
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