Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #953 US Starts MASSIVE BOMBING Campaign On Iranian Targets, WW3 LETS GO w/Charlie Spiering

Episode Date: February 3, 2024

Tim, Shane, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Charlie Spiering to discuss US launching strikes against 85 Iranian targets in the middle east, a new bill aiming to allow National Guard to use lethal force ag...ainst migrants at the southern border, NYC giving over $53 million to illegal immigrants via pre-paid debit cards, and Joe Rogan inking a new deal with Spotify worth $250 million. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The U.S. has begun a massive bombing campaign on Iranian Revolutionary Guard targets in Syria and Iraq. Basically, ladies and gentlemen, the U.S. has just begun a very long protracted war in the Middle East. Surprise, surprise. Where have we heard this one before? I'm not surprised it's happening, but the question is, how will it escalate? I believe that the news we're seeing here is basically, it's a unilateral declaration of war by Joe Biden. We are now attacking Iran. The questions are, why is Iranian Revolutionary Guard operating in Syria and Iraq?
Starting point is 00:00:35 And when did we declare war on Syria? And why are we there anyway? I think the Uniparty, the establishment, realized, you know, the problem isn't that we unilaterally declare war and everyone complains about it. They're complaining about it because we told them we did. So now they're just, just go do it. Ignore it and don't talk about it. But now, of course, there are a bunch of media outlets and a bunch of politicians in various countries once again saying World War III. They've been saying World War III for like a year now.
Starting point is 00:01:04 So I don't know, I guess. Are we in it? But basically at the UK saying gear up and get ready. Several other countries have been mentioned in the past week have been contemplating or advocating for a military draft. And many news outlets are saying this action by the United States could be that escalation. Then, of course, we have the prospect of civil war here on the border as a new bill through Congress would authorize the National Guard to use lethal force against illegal immigrants in certain contexts. Now, the easy context, of course, is if they're facing something life threatening, but it also says and for other reasons should be interesting. Basically, it looks like they are advancing the position where we may actually see combat on the border or some kind of force. And the funny thing about that is Ian is the one who's talked about his fear
Starting point is 00:01:50 that it comes to that point. And I'm like, well, you know, that builds in Congress. Maybe it doesn't make it. Maybe it does. We'll see. And FBI is warning that China will be attacking U.S. domestic infrastructure. So perhaps there's just a whole lot of World War Three going on. We'll talk about that. And then actually in some really big and very good cultural news, Joe Rogan, according to the Wall Street Journal, has secured a $250 million multi-platform deal with Spotify. The reason this is really, really good news is the deal basically says that Rogan's show will be everywhere, YouTube, Spotify, anywhere, but Spotify is now going to buy the ad rights to the show
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Starting point is 00:04:33 Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Charlie Spearing. Who are you? Hi, I'm Charlie Spearing. I'm an author of a new book called Amateur Hour, Kamala Harris and the White House. Right on. So you basically, was it, were you face palming every time you had to write something? You're like, wow, I can't believe it. Yeah, it was really fun to research.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Well, what's the general premise of the book? General premise of the book is she's struggling, clearly, in the first three years of her vice presidency. She clearly wasn't ready to run herself. That's why Biden's running again. And if Biden runs and wins, we're in the very real possibility of the 47th president becoming Kamala Harris. I don't think Joe Biden can win, but I also have no idea what's in store for us this year. Yeah, me neither. I don't think Joe Biden can win, but I also have no idea what's in store for us this year.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Yeah, I mean, either if if Joe Biden doesn't make it, if he can't make it to Election Day, I think the Democrat Party, that's their worst fear, because that's when everybody with the money as bad as Biden is losing their mind. They're like Kamala's worse. That's kind of funny. All right, man. Well, it should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. We got Hannah Claire Brimelow as well.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Hey, I'm Hannah Claire Brimelow. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. I'm glad that you're here because I feel like I give Kamala a hard time always. She's so easy to pick on, but she's not great. So I'm glad you guys are joining us tonight. Shane's here. What's up?
Starting point is 00:05:54 I'm back. It's good to be back. Sounds like Charlie wrote a horror novel. And I'm scared. You're like reading through it. Is this fiction? Yeah, it's terrifying stuff. But it's great to be back.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Oh, shout to the Discord. I be back, shout out to the Discord I keep seeing stuff coming out of the Discord It's amazing what you all are doing out there And it's good to see you, Serge Oh yeah, how you seeing the Discord stuff, man? Serge has been inundating my phone today With stuff that he gets from Discord And we were laughing for the last hour
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah, that's great, no after show today But yeah, Discord rules I like being on there every once in a while. I am surge.com. Let's get into it, Tim. Here's the big story today. And of course they did it on a Friday. U.S. drops 125 bombs and 85 targets linked to Iran's revolutionary guard in devastating airstrikes on Iraq and Syria. Biden warns retaliation for drone attack that killed three soldiers will continue after
Starting point is 00:06:45 long-range bombers and drones hit middle east uh unilateral declaration of war or is it just we are in such a perpetual state of war they don't care they're just going to keep ramping things up and we're going to spiral out of control and implode or uh or what they're used to being a wasteland of our bomb shrapnel it doesn't doesn't seem like it could escalate into a regional war, but they telegraphed it to everyone that we'd be bombing them. So then everyone that might have been responsible for the drone attack is gone. And we're taking out what could be the places where the drones were. But we'll see.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I don't know. It's just interesting to me because I was on the phone today with a friend who's in Special Forces for the Navy navy and he was talking about whatever's going on his life and then he was saying oh yeah i'm supposed to deploy this fall and i was like oh where do you where do you think you're going he's like oh we're getting back in the middle east but he says it the whole thing he didn't say something specific right which makes me think that like everyone is preparing for intense uh escalation wasn't there uh something about the roman empire bringing in foreigners to fight in wars?
Starting point is 00:07:46 That is part of the story, I believe. Is it part of the story? Does anybody know enough about the Roman Empire? Come on, man. I thought this was all you think about. We're supposed to think about it every single day. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:54 But seeing this, you know, it's perpetual war. The fact that Congress does not approve of these things anymore. We've been at war in the Middle East for decades or longer decades or longer actually and we're in syria iraq and syria i mean iraq i know right and syria when i mean of course it happened with we never left well with obama we go in but my question is was when when the iraq war started there's protests everywhere when barack obama decides to invade syria ain't nobody says anything. Right. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Donald Trump comes in, tries to get the troops out. They lie to him to keep the troops in. Right. It's crazy they're at this point. And so now, with the bombing campaign in Iraq and Syria, we've basically got a unilateral declaration of war on Syria. We're attacking Iranian linked targets, whatever that means. It's just there's not going to be any formal declaration of a World War III or expansion of war.
Starting point is 00:08:51 We're just slowly walking our way into further and further escalation. On top of that, everyone has been sharing this video from December 4th of C-SPAN of Senator Dick Durbin saying we should make illegal immigrants soldiers. We should bring them in. I mean, this is C-SPAN of Senator Dick Durbin saying we should make illegal immigrants soldiers. We should bring them in. I mean, this is C-SPAN right here. Dick Durbin wants to make it possible for illegal immigrants to join the U.S. And I've been getting a bunch of people messaging me being like, that's exactly how the Roman Empire collapsed.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Yeah. I mean, I remember we were we did IRL today. He did this in Kingsley Cortez. It was here and we had the same reaction, which was that you can't have a bunch of people who don't have a tie to this country come in and fight for you because ultimately their loyalty is to the federal government. It's not to the culture or the people or the states. And that is dangerous for the population that potentially could resist the federal government. It's it's such a ridiculous suggestion, but it's obviously been on the minds of senators in this country for a long time.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Again, to me, that speaks that they are not ultimately loyal to the people that they serve. They're loyal to power and controlling the masses. Yeah, it's kind of like the new form of DACA, right? This is the way we get more migrants into our country. We let them serve in our military, and then we give them citizenship, say, well done. Now you can go to college on the GI Bill and then you'll be sufficiently roped in and hopefully support Democrats.
Starting point is 00:10:10 So do we see this administration going around and rounding up the illegals and giving them guns and sending them away? And if they refuse, that administration deports them? Like, how does it look? I just don't think they get organized fast enough, right? Like, the reality is that he's going into somewhat of a lame duck period. I mean,
Starting point is 00:10:27 we've got to November. We expect a wave of executive actions at the orders at the end of the year. But like, I just don't know. The thing is like one of the reasons that we can't find, we don't know the true number of how many illegal aliens are here is because they are unregistered. So how would the government
Starting point is 00:10:45 you know round up enough of them they'd have to they'd have to put out a call and most immigrant groups like all of the ngos or non-profits that support illegal aliens in this country they always say like if police come to your door don't answer and you know resist that so actually there's now a problem like you can't get them to come out and the propaganda the propaganda is crazy there's this viral uh meme i guess around in statistics on crime. And it's like some guy being like, just going to drop this here. And it says native born Americans. Crime is really high.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Undocumented immigrants is low. And then immigrants is super low. And I'm just like, my guy, the crime rate for illegal immigrants is at least one to one like quite literally you can't it's impossible to claim native-born citizens commit more crime as opposed to quote-unquote undocumented immigrants because they started off by committing a crime yeah which means literally every single one of them has committed a crime not every single native-born citizen has committed a crime right they're at a hundred percent right off the bat that crime doesn't matter though that that's not a real crime that's just a civil disobedience right but but it is and they exclude it when it's literally a crime
Starting point is 00:11:53 to to illegally enter the country illegally it's a crime we exclude all kinds of crime it as long as you take down the right statues or as long as you take out you know storm the right office or desecrate the right government building. If you're doing the thing we want you to be doing, then we're okay with it. I love the meme that someone made recently where it's the guy on January 6th with his feet on the table. And it's not even a funny meme. It's just like six years in prison. And then it's the photo of the guy having gay sex in the Senate building.
Starting point is 00:12:21 And it's like no charges, no evidence. It's crazy. And they expect everyone to just go along with it.'s like no charges no evidence it's crazy and they expect everyone to just go along with it like that's they said there's no evidence of a crime like there's no evidence of a crime the only reason we know it happened is because there's a video that went viral like what are you what if they actually did bring charges against the people involved and it actually went to court in washington dc would they be convicted because you know how cops work.
Starting point is 00:12:45 They only charge when they feel like they can get a conviction, right? I'm so old for this, man. There's a video out of Boston of a bunch of cops standing outside of the community center in the black neighborhood where they were housing all the criminal aliens. And there's a black dude screaming,
Starting point is 00:13:01 like, I can barely afford to live. I work 40 hours a week, and I can't even go to my community center anymore. And the cops are like GTFO. And I just it's just I love it, man. I tweet F these these cops, scumbags. And I get these conservative blue line people being like, Tim, it's not the police officer's fault. It's not their fault.
Starting point is 00:13:19 I'm like, it's dude, it's nobody's fault but the person who committed the crime. OK, like some some guy you've never heard of in an office somewhere you've never been to is the real criminal. What are you talking about? I'm watching a guy work with criminal aliens right here. Like, just how wild would it be if somebody is in the middle of beating a child and you're like, well, hold on. Hold on. Who told them to do it? I'm like, I don't care, dude.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Stop the person. These cops are committing crimes. No, but they were told it's not legal dude and that's where we're currently at where i just see everything man i think we got cultural victories and all that stuff but man it does feel like things are falling apart because you got every man for himself mentality it's like watching the cops not do anything for the riots like right in the city just standing by meanwhile when they were told to go arrest people trying to have a prayer service in a park in the city you know they would do that or yeah arresting people wearing the mask or not wearing it's less likely that people praying are going to resist i mean they're
Starting point is 00:14:12 expecting the certain people to comply and i i find that that's sort of an insight i mean we talked about it a couple days ago on the show but older generations are more likely to trust media they're more likely to trust the federal government and so in some respects like the the thing that makes them vulnerable to being arrested by police is the fact that they want to comply with the system they want to be supportive whereas the police are like well that seems so crazy over there i'm not sure what we can do so we just won't like that seems like an insult to people who are ultimately trying to live by the rules of law and order yeah so the authorities just go after the people who are ultimately trying to live by the rules of law and order. Yeah. So the authorities just go after the people who are easy targets. Yeah, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Because they're afraid of the riots and they're afraid of the public image. Can we just like, I know- Well, probably the bureaucracy within the department, that's usually what kills any sort of impetus to do something virtuous is I will lose my job and my wife and kids are going to suffer and I'm going to lose my pension. And so I'm not gonna do that you should quit then you know part part of me is glad we haven't seen a lot of that have we like you lose your cops being like i'm done and i think yeah no we have victims in these pensions
Starting point is 00:15:15 we've seen a lot of it actually in new york massive uh all over the place uh i think you know at one point a few years ago during the defund the police movement we were looking at more than half of like departments had seen you know resignations resignations sick outs yeah a lot of cops were just like i won't do this anymore there's even a viral video where a cop in seattle is like stopping at a light and all the activists are screaming and laughing at him and he's and he yells you won you won you win i'm out i quit yeah and then everyone they're all laughing. They're like, we got them. I'm just like, what I was gonna say is I'm glad the police are refusing to charge the guys who had the gay sex in the Senate building
Starting point is 00:15:51 because I just want everybody listening to bring that conversation up to your liberal friends and family members. Just bring it right up. And when, and just like, I'm sorry, like when they're like, well, you know, I'll be like, dude, come on. There's a video, a viral video, literally of a Democrat Senator staff member getting banged in the Senate building. And they won't criminally charge him.
Starting point is 00:16:18 You want to come to me? You want to come to me and tell me that the machine's not biased. Come on. Have we seen any people defend that? Like I haven't even heard from him. He put out a statement being like, I'm being persecuted because of who I love. Right. And so immediately they superimposed me, man.
Starting point is 00:16:35 That's why we can't let it go. Yeah. That's why, because if you notice all of the prominent leftists will not bring it up. So everybody should just keep talking about it. And it took like 36 hours for it to puncture through mainstream i think fox was one of the first people reporting it but again it wasn't that much i mean the story is crazy typically what they say is sex sells and in case in this case it's like no that's the wrong kind yeah not this one we don't like this
Starting point is 00:16:59 we did the culture war episode maybe the day or two after that happened and we on the show looked it up in the news and there were no reports on it at all. Cause it broke on a Friday. I'm pretty sure. And like by Saturday was when I was starting to get news alerts about it. But like, of course I had our, like, it is one of those things that reminds you that Twitter is a very different space than the rest of nature. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Was it the Daily Caller? Daily Caller did. Yeah. Yeah. They've been getting a lot of stuff. Yeah it the Daily Caller? The Daily Caller did, yeah. Props to them. Let's jump to this story. We got this from the Daily Mail. National Guard would be able to use force against armed migrants
Starting point is 00:17:36 entering the U.S. under a new bill from Navy SEAL veteran Republican congressman. They're going to mention that House Republicans are pushing a bill that would authorize the National Guard to use lethal force against individuals with weapons crossing from Mexico into the United States. They do. They do keep saying that. But they also mentioned the bill actually says and for other other other issues or whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:54 They say in the last year, there have been multiple instances of migrants crossing into the U.S. carrying weapons with some brand brandishing rifles like an ar-15 as the biden administration and texas governor greg abbott clash over border security policies the bill latrell claims will enable the national guard to better protect the u.s by using any means necessary to stop armed migrants look at they got photos of these dudes that's kind of that's kind of wild i just can't believe that we have to pass this law what are we even doing this whole time it's legit an invasion yeah i know why are we not just, the headlines should just say invasion at the border. Well, of course they won't. Who wrote this? Can we? Here you go. They call
Starting point is 00:18:32 them the people smuggler. Oh, that sounds like a super villain name. The people smuggler was filmed by Texas Department of Safety drone on Wednesday near Eagle Pass. This is Wednesday. Take this photo, post it on Twitter and say invasion. Okay, spare me. These dudes are coming with rifles and our our guys aren't even allowed to defend this
Starting point is 00:18:51 country from armed people. Wow. Again, why does this have to be a law? I just don't get this. I mean, I'm glad it is if no one has thought that this is something that's necessary. Why do we have a border if we're not trying to stop people who are entering armed who are trying to enter illegally while armed like again what are we doing here team well and what are we doing say why are these governors setting the national guard down there if they are aren't i didn't know they're not allowed to use their weapons against
Starting point is 00:19:20 put out their arms and be like go back hey you Hey, you. Hold hands and sing a song. I'm so glad that Ron DeSantis and all these governors are sending more and more National Guard troops because all they can do is just build fences and say, please, go. They're going to link arms and just be like, you cannot cross. You shall not pass.
Starting point is 00:19:38 They're not allowed to retaliate. Having been to the border in Yuma and seeing how they treat people coming across the border with luggage tags and van rides and plane tickets and stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if they come with a gun and be like, do you need more ammo? Like where you- Is everything okay? Do you need a case for that rifle?
Starting point is 00:19:50 Yeah. It's totally crazy. Hey, where'd you get that? Did that come from here? Or did you- It is interesting to me. So there's this belt. And then there was another one that the house passed yesterday saying, I have to remember,
Starting point is 00:20:04 I should give this guy credit i can't remember his name uh basically it's um barry moore from alabama i think he proposed this bill that if you if there's an illegal immigrant who's in the country and gets convicted of or admits to driving while intoxicated oh right why then that's ground that makes them inadmissible so they couldn't get like a green card they couldn't get like a green card they couldn't get any status and also it's grounds for deportation which when i read it it was sort of like yes of course because you're here illegally in the first place already committing a crime and then you commit another crime seems like you should definitely go but the fact that we have
Starting point is 00:20:38 to spell this out politics is like let's just pick one crime that everybody can sort of gather around like it seems it also seems reasonable like someone who commits a crime while in the process of committing another crime being here illegally right probably i don't want them to be a citizen probably they are not here with good intentions yes like it seems basic and obvious but at the same time 150 democrats in the house voted against it right like it is weird that we have to say this is a bad idea and in fact there were congressmen from every border state you know california new mexico arizona who are democrats who voted for this so it makes me wonder like are you seeing this in your community where there are people who are here illegally and are proceeding to you know potentially be hazards to you know
Starting point is 00:21:22 the illegal population but also the legal residents in your communities. It's very weird. I feel like at a certain point, they just can't deny it. And their constituents are like, our homes are ruined. This place is ruined. People are leaving. The economy in this town or city is dying. Like we see with Eric Adams when he spoke out.
Starting point is 00:21:39 But then once he spoke out, they tried to Me Too him. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That kind of disappeared for a while, didn't it? He was getting raided by the feds, wasn't he, they tried to meet to him like a year or two later. Oh yeah. That kind of disappeared for a while. He was getting raided by the feds, wasn't he? Yeah, he was. Jeez, man. We're at the, like, this is the 11th hour, dude.
Starting point is 00:21:52 We got like, can we pull up his picture again? My friends. That's not the only one. He's hanging out in the trees over here. Bro, this is an invasion. It's like, this guy's got a gun and apparently it's an issue. They're like, maybe we should give the National Guard
Starting point is 00:22:06 the ability to like I don't know fight back when they're being shot at or something well Tim he's a poor asylum seeker he's just trying to
Starting point is 00:22:11 you know come for opportunity hands up don't shoot it's xenophobic to question armed asylum seekers I'm actually totally down
Starting point is 00:22:18 for saying asylum seekers they're ready to go to war Tim just like you've been saying he's like Dick Durbin I'm coming I'm ready to fight
Starting point is 00:22:24 I'm here to sign I'm here to sign up and fight for Uncle Sam. They're like, this guy's got experience. No, the left likes to call them all asylum seekers, even when they're criminal aliens or smugglers or whatever. And so then you get the right saying illegal immigrant. And I'm telling people criminal alien is the legal term for this.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I'm going back to asylum seeker because I'm going to say armed asylum seekers. Mostly peaceful. Mostly peaceful. But armed. Possibly peaceful. I'm going back to asylum seeker because I'm gonna say armed asylum seekers yeah mostly peaceful mostly peaceful yeah but you know possibly peaceful look he loves the second amendment of course he's an American this is hopefully peaceful it's just wild and this is I mean I wish I had listened to a current champion white house briefing today I'm sure if she saw this was asked about it she'd be like everything at the border is fine. Don't question this at all. Like, at what point? This is for the hardcore progressive Democrats. I don't know that anything on this level will
Starting point is 00:23:13 convince them. But people who are sort of nonpolitical, moderate, maybe lean a little socially left. When you see these pictures, at what point are you just like, yes, this is incorrect? No, no, no. If you take a closer look and you zoom in, you can actually see there's something on the back, right? He's holding a small anvil. Of course. He's trying to set up a smithing shop. Right. Stop assuming these are criminals.
Starting point is 00:23:36 I don't know. It almost looks like a bump stock to me. The thing is, Wile E. Coyote used anvils all the time for bad things. And so I just, that counts as a weapon to me too. And to be clear to your point, it's like those very same people you're talking about looking at this and thinking that they might come to terms with it, the reality of it,
Starting point is 00:23:51 they're the ones who looked at the riots and thought they were just. See, I think that shifted. I think there are, I think there's been sort of a bleeding effect away because some of these things are so concrete. And that's why I think a lot of progressive outlets, a lot of progressive outlets a lot of progressive
Starting point is 00:24:05 activists harp on january 6th so much because it's a way to sort of quell the fear like you can't question anything that's going on because ultimately look at this very bad thing theoretically that happened this one time whereas this is an active invasion that's going on constantly and in fact has been going on for three years i mean it's what the the official number is something like we think six million illegal criminal aliens are here but when ronda santos was doing his uh press conference when he was saying i'm gonna send people to the border he was like what's the number like 10 million no one knows how many of these people are here there's no way of knowing did you see
Starting point is 00:24:39 theo vaughn's tweet i think it was last weekend he tweeted let's what was it like let's close get a head count on who's in this MF I'm not doing it justice he had another recent one too I forget what he said
Starting point is 00:24:52 he's had a bunch of good ones he's so funny until we can figure out what's going on yeah Charlie as the resident Kamala expert
Starting point is 00:25:00 what's her take on the border as our borders are true wasn't she supposed to be in charge of the border go back to i think it was in june 21 when she went to guatemala and she held that press conference and she got real stern and said yeah do not come do not come remember angered aoc and a lot of other progressives well i guess they're not listening to kamala but why would they not
Starting point is 00:25:23 listen to kamala i've heard that she's very influential. She's historic. I don't know why they didn't get the memo. Why did they make her border czar? Does your book know? Yeah, this was kind of Biden's first attempt to be like, all right, Kamala, you're my buddy, Vice President. You're going to take one for the team.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Here's what we do. I'm putting you in. So I always wondered if that was him sort of being like, I'm'm gonna give you a bad job because i don't really like you i don't want you to be more like successful than i am and he knew exactly what he was doing because obama did the same thing to him charlie i gotta stop you there though when has anyone ever said that body knows exactly what he's doing sorry maybe in the first few months of his first term as what vice president as president well at least his team knew right because he's had the same team for decades In the first few months of his first term. Okay, okay. As what, vice president? As president. Well, at least his team knew, right?
Starting point is 00:26:07 Because he's had the same team for decades. We've heard stories. We got them from Obama, I heard. No, they're his guys. Really? Team Biden is very strong and very powerful. And they are not beholden to anybody else but their own interests. They aren't even beholden to the Biden family at this point.
Starting point is 00:26:23 It's just them. So why did they want, if he was immediately going to stick her with a terrible job, their own interests. Like they aren't even beholden to the Biden family at this point. It's just them. So why did they want, if he was immediately going to stick her with a terrible job trying to reign in the border, not really though, if you're a Democrat, why did he select her as VP? Like if there's always been a little bit of tension there,
Starting point is 00:26:37 was it just that she would bring him the demographic that he wanted? As I outlined in the book, it was a very political decision. He actually preferred Gretchen Whitmer because, you know, she's Midwestern, swing state. She campaigned on the idea of fixing the damn roads. The feds love her. He liked that. He liked her style of politics and thought she was a real winner.
Starting point is 00:26:55 She actually tried to drop out of the running because, you know, the whole process was sort of overrun by the George Floyd riots. And it's like got very volatile and that's when everyone sort of started dropping out you had Amy Klobuchar just be like oh I gotta go former prosecutor right in Minnesota so I was like I'm not I'm not I'm not doing this so you saw more and more candidates drop out and so he ended up but he had to pick up you know he had vowed to pick a woman vice president and then ultimately it was clear by you know senior advisors that he had to pick a woman of color during this time of you know racial tension and he was not doing so good on racial issues he was going around saying you
Starting point is 00:27:36 know poor kids are just as just as smart as white kids and you're not out there you're not black if you vote for trump and so yeah he really had to show that part of his base that he was serious about hearing them and getting a woman of color on the ticket you know you know what i was thinking it's like it's really funny how the left says these christians are all super hateful and all that and i'm thinking this because i'm like you know i blame for all of the stuff happening right now like where we are in my generation i blame christian conservatives and it's because they're too good of people and they you know, I blame for all of the stuff happening right now, like where we are in my generation. I blame Christian conservatives.
Starting point is 00:28:06 And it's because they're too good of people and they were very tolerant and accepting to so many really bad people that they kept acting in good faith and allowed these far leftists and communists to infiltrate institutions. So I mean that somewhat, I'm half joking. But 30, 40 years ago, like or 50 60 years ago when you
Starting point is 00:28:26 have a very christian conservative nation evil steps in lies and being good people they're like well you know i think we should give these people a fair chance and now you've got communists running over everything and even to this day the republican party is still impotent and won't address these things i mean don Donald Trump gets sued, criminally charged, abused mercilessly in these jurisdictions. Not a single Republican jurisdiction is countering. I mean, maybe there's one or two small ones here there, but where's West Virginia or Texas? Ken Paxton should file criminal charges against Joe Biden for facilitating human smuggling. Why not? I mean, the charges against Trump are ludicrous. He did
Starting point is 00:29:05 not lead an insurrection. OK, Ken Paxton filed charges against Joe Biden right now for leading an insurrection at our southern border. Use that photo and let them argue he's immune. Whatever. He will have to answer to the Texas legal system. But you know what? As much as Texas is the stand standing your ground and all that stuff, I know the judges, they're going to go, oh, geez. Oh, well, you know, we can't do that. I'm like, dude, are you watching what they're doing in New York? But we are better men.
Starting point is 00:29:30 OK, well, then Trump goes to prison. Have a nice day. Yeah, it does seem like they need to become more of an offense right now. It does feel like a lot of states are just on defense or kind of waiting to respond to what more progressive activists are doing. But I don't I'm not enough of a legal expert to know what what steps should be taken i think it would just be good for conservative voters to see action taken so i tweeted that uh eugene carroll was a deranged i'll just say person
Starting point is 00:29:59 it was a bit more it was a bit more uh aggressive than that and i got all these leftists this one went viral and it was like hey i'm tim pool i'm going to defame a woman who just won a massive defamation lawsuit and i'm just like for one i did not defame her i insulted her there's a difference two this is not how the law works you people are morons however fair point people like this are in law in new york and they're like we'll do it anyway and so when the question comes up as to what are the legal requirements for ken paxton in texas to actually bring about some kind of charges or to to uh i don't know if he would be the actual guy to bring the charges or how he could pursue this it doesn't even matter you look at what's going on in new y York and it's all fake and we all know it.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Come on. Single Republican in any jurisdiction. Do I have to run for office? I swear. I swear. I might have to. You guys make Tim run for office. He'll be real mad.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I'm going to be really mad. But I'll run for some office where I'm like, I don't care what it is. I will take a sheriff's office and I will immediately be like, I am going to go and start arresting people who are breaking the law. Like, that's it like in west virginia they should have a criminal investigation right now into the customs and border protection facility it's a massive facility on 340 in west virginia there should be state state law enforcement raiding that building with a warrant from a judge because we want to know
Starting point is 00:31:19 what's going on with their internal communications as per the human smuggling they're involved in ain't nobody got the balls to actually do anything though yeah do you think sorry do you think it's what's going on with their internal communications as per the human smuggling they're involved in. Ain't nobody got the balls to actually do anything though. Do you think it's because they're spineless or they're like stalled by their fear of these institutions? See, I was wondering if it's similar to the fear. Like if you are, when the federal government investigates itself, it's always like we've done nothing wrong. Everything's good, right? So like with the DOD probe into Lloyd Austin's hospitalization and like the fact that he didn't tell anybody and no one knew, like when he did his press conference, he said,
Starting point is 00:31:52 you know, there is an internal investigation. Congress has done some stuff. But ultimately, if you're investigating yourself, you're going to say it's OK. So with like the Custom and Border Patrol, it would be, I assume, West Virginia that needs to come in and say, we're investigating what's going on here but i've heard so often from law enforcement oh well you know fed trump state the feds are allowed to do whatever and i want to know is that actually true or is this just the attitude that has become that you think that the federal government because texas is proving that wrong right now texas said our right to self-defense is the supreme law of the land let me pull up this
Starting point is 00:32:22 story here from uh the post-millennial big fans new york city to pay out 53 million dollars on prepaid debit cards to illegal immigrants in pilot program oh uh so when eric adams comes out and says this will destroy us he gets accused of crimes and he gets raided the next thing you know he's like i am going to give 53 million dollars to illegal immigrants i am totally for this it's coming it's coming out of my bank account too he's like blinking out in morris code like i want to rescue me no it's bad i think it'd be funnier if they spent 53 million dollars to just ship them to eagle pass at which point they're escorted back across the border i i genuinely think the democrat strategy is we have to destroy this country to the greatest degree imaginable before trump wins because the only response we have or i this country to the greatest degree imaginable before Trump wins, because the only response we have, or I should say not the only, but the functional response,
Starting point is 00:33:10 the best course of action is Trump wins. So I think, you know, there's a, I just love all of the articles that are popping up about Taylor Swift. I'm not going to get into the whole thing about Taylor Swift. My point is this, have any of the people who've pushed that story stopped to ask themselves why it is the corporate press is running full speed ahead, pumping out dozens of stories about the right attacking Taylor Swift? They want you to. They want you to do this. Okay, don't. Why is it? We look at this. I think their attitude is like they're desperately praying some right wing or MAGA guy acts a fool. They want they want some right wing guy to act out of line so they can use that. And so they're going to press and turn the heat up in the pressure cooker as much as possible.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Fifty three million dollars of your money going to illegal immigrants the border crisis like the cbp cutting border barrier razor wire like why are they doing this obviously they want to destroy the country but i think they're trying to force or actually create the circumstances where they can at least claim the right engage in some kind of violence i think we're we're seeing this like sustained absurdity and it's and they're becoming very desperate and uh this is about to be dark so if you have little ones listening uh it's dark but this is how i've been thinking about the government lately in terms of their desperation i think of ted bundy and how ted bundy operated secretly for years you know
Starting point is 00:34:41 doing horrible things and his last act of desperation when they were on to him went on a horrible murder spree you know and it seems like with this kind of sustained absurdity and and violence and the war on every front possible it seems like you know i think of the government like ted bundy in that last desperate act it may be like for him he said oh no they're gonna catch me i better get as much as i can in for the democrats and the uniparty i think they're thinking we like trump is going to reverse whatever it is we do let's so so imagine this way let's say there's a scale of uh zero to 100 and they're like if we're at 50 trump is going to pull him pull us back to 20 we need to push things to 100 so trump can only go back to 70 so it's, they know that Trump's going to deport a million migrants.
Starting point is 00:35:26 That's how the left works, destroy everything. Trump's going to deport a million migrants. Let's bring in 10 million so we can only deport one out of the nine we got in. It's a big ask in terms of policies. And it has two effects. Number one, they can run screaming with all these headlines being like,
Starting point is 00:35:39 how could he do this? He's deporting poor asylum seekers and et cetera, et cetera. And also they can then say and he didn't even do that good of a job there are so many more people here he didn't come through with his promises like they're trying to set him up to fail on two fronts which is crazy it's the inverse of what biden did with the economy coming back after trump locking it down so they keep claiming all these jobs came back but they came back because we took them away right and then they spin as a positive for biden so it'll be the inverse of that for trump when they make it
Starting point is 00:36:07 they wreck this country so much and it's like almost impossible to bring it back to the way it was you know i think we're missing the bigger point is like joe they're now trying to set up joe biden as a wartime president you know single-handedly pressing the buttons of hundreds of missiles into the middle east meanwhile he's back in bed in Delaware, I think, right now, right? They released a three-paragraph statement. Typically, the president's supposed to get up there and give a speech to explain to the American people.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Now it's just on autopilot. I don't think they're trying to make him a wartime president because, like you said, he should be up there standing giving speeches, and he's not. I think it's part of the big, we'll call it the big act, not the big ask, where they're saying, if Trump gets elected, he's pulling our troops out of all these places. Let's scattershot the Middle East, forcing military action on the United States that Trump could never even pull back from.
Starting point is 00:37:03 So bring in 10x illegal immigrants so Trump can only deport half of them. Go to war as much as possible in the Middle East so that Trump will struggle to get our troops out. They're just trying to create the biggest mess for Trump to clean up so it looks like he's not succeeding. No, no. They're trying to get eight years of the presidency in four years. It's crazy. So that when Trump goes in, and actually I say 12 years because Trump's going to reverse four years of their actions. They want eight. They want 2020 to 2028 everything they
Starting point is 00:37:26 want illegal immigration war conflict crisis if trump is minus four years they need to do 12 12 years of this policy happening in four years and that makes sense if you think about it 10 million illegal immigrants in in in in the span of a couple years right if they had if they had the uh if they had the white house up until 2028 they can be like well we can sustain it slowly but they genuinely think trump's going to win most people think trump's going to win so they're like we have to triple our efforts so that trump can only pull back a little bit but that allows them to accomplish their goals from now until 2028 yep i've been calling them uh these things in the store in the in the media like
Starting point is 00:38:04 invisible landmines where there's something that you know that all the migrants are criminals fugitives the invasion is happening and then they're filling the country trump takes over then they turn him into the bad guy by saying look he's doing all these crazy things he's deporting everyone he's the monster we always told you he was they're going to show pictures of him like people are being loaded into trucks and buses and they're going to say we said never again but it's happening now yeah think of all the new yorker covers they're going to paint him you know looking like like hitler and whatnot but well maybe he should be more strategic maybe just uh start by deporting the child molesters and the drunk drivers but that's not going to matter for the cop assaulters
Starting point is 00:38:42 right you know it's not going to matter for the photographs it's not going to matter for the photographs and the propaganda so the smart play is that he has to deport them in a way that makes it difficult for them to run that narrative and I actually think that hopefully conservative media gets out with him because I think that's part of it they can't back down and use the terms they have to be honest about the fact that these people were always here
Starting point is 00:39:02 illegally and they're not supposed to be here I think the answer I brought this up the other day is uh donald trump gets in immediately goes i agree with dick durbin we're gonna bring them into the military good men and women in uniform and then you take all the illegal immigrants so you you you with handshakes and a salute we're like you, you're coming to basic training. And then through all this, you know, they'll post a photo on a magazine being like, Trump is enlisting illegal immigrants, I guess. It's like, well, it's a Democrat idea.
Starting point is 00:39:33 And they may try to spin it, but then what you do is you- This is some free DHS. Hold on, hold on. You deploy them, wink. Oh, ah. All right, so what country are you from, sir? I'm from Honduras. Hold on, hold on. You deploy them. Wink. Oh. All right. So what country are you from, sir?
Starting point is 00:39:48 I'm from Honduras. Congratulations. You're being deployed to Honduras. You don't need a gun or a helmet. Here's that one more ticket. It's like a more expensive route to do this, but, you know. We're going to send you to the other side of the border to guard the border. We'll take the money. That's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:40:02 You guys stay over there. Don't let anybody in. Wait, That's a good idea. You guys stay over there. Don't let anybody in. Wait, that's a good idea, actually. You're all being deployed to line the border. Don't let anybody in. Who needs a wall? We have a human wall.
Starting point is 00:40:12 If anybody gets in, none of you get citizenship. Yeah. If you can hold it for a year, but then the best part... Ten years. But the best part is we can promise them anything
Starting point is 00:40:21 and like the U.S. government already treats its veterans, they just abandon them. Yeah. Right. We give you nothing. There you go already treats its veterans, they just abandoned them. Yeah. Right. We give you nothing. There you go. It's like I served for four years.
Starting point is 00:40:28 It's like, do you notice the line of all the other veterans that we've ignored? Man, you should have read the fine print. I think that's true. Maybe this is the way to solve this issue. I was skeptical at first because it seemed like we'd just be using taxpayer money to do something crazy. But well, it is. That's the only way to secure the border.
Starting point is 00:40:44 But then when the media is like, Trump is loading up all these people on the buses and trains, and then he's like, but yeah, because they chose to join the military because they're good people. Why would you insult them like that? Oh, geez.
Starting point is 00:40:56 And of course, the training camp is a new training camp we set up in Southern Mexico. This is getting very Roman Empire of you, Tim. I mean, that's what you could do like basic training for all uh non-citizens who want to enlist we uh well that that training camp is not in the united states it's uh you know in guatemala right we exported our training facilities to mexico it's cheaper there just like our manufacturing job we're saving money for everybody yeah yeah and then we just you know your your your job is to guard the training camp and they all just stay there problem solved
Starting point is 00:41:31 interesting but yeah you'll need creative solutions otherwise they're going to run this narrative donald trump is hitler i mean i gotta be honest like they've already run that narrative ad nauseum yeah they'll add photos to the mix i wonder if at that point everyone's going to be like i just i just don't care anymore you know like apathy central well no look i mean this might be the best thing in the world for trump trump finally gets in actually is loading people on buses and trains and sending them off to be deported and the media screams he's hitler and at that point you're like i get it the sky is falling and there's wolves i don't care i'm so over it well i think the thing is if they run the pictures of Trump loading people up on buses because, you know, why would he deport people who are illegally? Apparently that's the wrong thing to do. I think hopefully conservative
Starting point is 00:42:12 media gets behind him and it runs the photos of every person who has been killed by someone who was here illegally. I mean, there are already resources that do this. Borderhawk does this. Dan Lyman. There are people who suffer because of illegal immigration, not just the economic effects, but like the crime. If you showed all the footage of the, you saw this, the trash and like the underwear that's at the border, right? There's horrible things. There's evidence that something is wrong
Starting point is 00:42:35 and we just don't show those pictures enough. It's that like Republicans in Congress, the media that supports Trump or the influencers, let's say the spokes, the talking heads that do it need to be just as on the offense. I think I figured it out. I know what we need. You guys remember that article where it said it was like Trump ends up supporting lockdown so that everyone opposes or something like that. What we need is 5D chess where Trump gets elected but keeps doing everything the Democrats want to be
Starting point is 00:43:06 done. And so they have no choice but to oppose all of it. Prepaid debit cards. That's the first action of business. Donald Trump gets in and he's like we're going to open the border, let everybody in. And the Democrats are immediately like, we got a bill through Congress
Starting point is 00:43:22 and no more border. And he's like, I guess I have to sign it. And then he signs it. And then he's like, we're going to send all our troops to Iran. I'm like, no, no, we oppose it. You can't do that. Yeah, Trump's a fascist.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Like, oh, geez, I guess I got it. Okay, no troops to Iran. That really might be the only way to do it because the Republicans, even when he had Congress and Senate in that first two years, not much was done. And the Democrats do mobilize.
Starting point is 00:43:43 You got to trick them. Do you feel like the there's been a changing of the guards in that in the house and in the senate with the republicans that are there i feel like after the last year we've really seen a sort of uh clashing of old and new i would say it just seems like it's fractured like it hasn't coalesced or anything just like you know right-wing twitter at times you know there's no well certainly in the senate you have mitch mcconnell and he doesn't i don't imagine he'll be sticking around if trump wins again he's alive as i think that's when he bows out and then it's up to who john thune
Starting point is 00:44:16 john barasso who else is in leadership i i think we're just it's unfortunate, but conservatives are too demure across the board. Like the left will line up as enemies to whoever is declared the enemy. You like some leftist activists can come out and say, I think X is a bad group of people. And they all just immediately fall in line. You literally have police officers guarding criminal aliens occupying a building and i got tons of thin blue line or like back to blue guys being like no i defend the cops and i'm like you know the cops are the ones who are burning your neighborhoods down and you're smiling and saying it's it's not their fault okay dude i i i don't know like culturally i see a bunch
Starting point is 00:45:00 of victories bud light sponsoring shane gillis is hilarious and i do think we're winning but you know it is a challenge and perhaps we could mitigate some of the damage if we had more balls and more willingness to call out bad people so jan 6 wasn't the right play is that what you're thinking yeah definitely not i think the right play is like every single conservative should be completely aligned with if police officers are facilitating human smuggling they are they are opposed to those police officers but there's so many people on the right who are like no i don't blame the guys who are committing the crime it's the person who told them to do it and i'm just like i both of them i don't care but like if we went if these cops in boston knew that if they were filmed this, they would never eat another hot dog again.
Starting point is 00:45:50 They would never be able to get a hotel room. No one would make them a cheeseburger. They wouldn't do it. And so what the left does is funny. When these cops are in New York and the left is trying to protest, the left will film them and be like, yeah, we're going to film you. The cops are like, I don't care. You're fringe nobodies. You are my community i don't care if the conservative back the blue people did it they'd start sweating bullets because these are the people who actually live in your neighborhoods and you're gonna walk in and be like aren't you
Starting point is 00:46:16 that guy that i saw helping criminal aliens take over some town you think you can eat food in my restaurant oh out of here dude yeah conservatives are like i don't blame you it's not your fault yeah there will always be that big that deep respect for law and order and it's kind of baked in conservative but like but right but understand what you're saying you're saying that conservatives are not actually respecting law and order they are defending criminals because the criminal has a badge and i want to make sure this is clear i'm talking about a cop who's like walking down the street and he's like break up the fight guys i'm talking about cops who were ordered to facilitate human smuggling and they're like you got it boss
Starting point is 00:46:49 and they went there and they're like i'm gonna guard a bunch of criminal aliens who have taken this community center from these people because my boss told me to do it i'm like well you're a criminal you have broken the law you should be arrested i have no respect for you i think a lot of them are afraid to sound like you know rioters during BLM and they're overcompensating for how that looked, you know, when that whole thing played out. But then I would remind people, look at the cops who went in and rip people out of stadiums that weren't wearing a mask.
Starting point is 00:47:13 You know, there was a sheriff, a woman was in Minnesota and she tried opening her cafe during lockdown. And so they put out a warrant for arrest or whatever. So she fled to Iowa and the sheriffs hunted her down. They were like, we're going to make sure this old lady suffers. Man, there were so many instances where cops were just brutalizing regular, like my favorite is the New Jersey cops. A woman was live streaming.
Starting point is 00:47:37 She had a store and she was live. So she would sell things. You could come in and buy stuff. It was like a resale shop. When they shut everybody down, they're all closed. So what does she do? She started live streaming on Facebook saying, here are the things that I have. Let me film them for you.
Starting point is 00:47:50 And you can order them on the site and I'll ship them to you. Cops went to her store and said, ma'am, you need to close your store. And she goes, what are you talking about? I am closed. They're like, no, stop filming and stop trying to sell things. Proving it was never about the pandemic. These were just dictators. And it's remarkable that people were like, well, I back the blue.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Well, the other weird thing that came out in the beginning of the pandemic was that domestic violence rates. I cannot talk right now. Domestic violence rates jumped significantly. And so there are people that would have maybe needed law enforcement's help that probably didn't get it. But then there were businesses that were just trying to find a way to make money, potentially keep their employees on. And they got the brunt of law enforcement. It's their livelihood, right? So the store owners, when your livelihood is threatened, that's when you're ready to just civil disobedience.
Starting point is 00:48:44 That's when the conservatives are like, like hey don't threaten my livelihood you know maybe that's what it takes for the conservatives to turn on law enforcement but we didn't say there are other things that are going on like because we locked everyone in their homes there are other social uh uh issues that are coming up and we should maybe use law enforcement to help with those things. Instead, it was like, how do we make everyone hurt economically? And then we had a lot of people just have to quit or were fired
Starting point is 00:49:12 for not getting the shot. And so who was left? I want to turn things around. We'll get a little too dark. Too black, Billy. Let's go white, Bill. Check this out. Wall Street Journal, big news,
Starting point is 00:49:23 ladies and gentlemen. Joe Rogan gets new Spotify deal worth up to $250 million. Hit show to be distributed broadly, including on YouTube, rather than exclusively on audio streaming service. All right. Where are we at? This deal is an upfront minimum guarantee. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:49:39 It means Spotify told Joe Rogan, here's what we're going to do, boss. We're going to take your show. We're going to put it on all platforms, every single platform imaginable. We're going to pay you $250 million upfront guarantee, but we get to sell ads on all your content on every platform, and you got to pay us back that $250 million. After that, we do a rev share. So his original deal was he had an exclusive deal. This is my understanding from Wall Street Journal. He had an exclusive deal where they said, we're going to pay you what was like $200 million so that your show is only on Spotify. Many people were speculating.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I was talking to people in the media industry and they were like, you think Joe's going to re-up this deal? And now we got the news. He's coming back to YouTube. He's coming back to all platforms with Spotify in control of how the ads are placed and generated because uh spotify i believe i believe spotify owns megaphone so i want to google that real quick and i'm pretty sure they do and that is basically youtube's ad network how you can auto place ads this is what uh megaphone does so if you're gonna like put a podcast upload a podcast you put it there then you can place ads just like on youtube so spotify is basically going broad and they're saying like we want
Starting point is 00:50:47 your content everywhere the reason this is good demonetization is no longer a factor joe rogan in the news all the time hosts a lot of politically spicy things and edgy things spotify with this bet it's not so much that they're predicting something, but they're setting something. Spotify is a juggernaut. If they say Joe Rogan is working with us and we're going to sell ads on his content, demonetization is out the window. YouTube is not going to demonetize Joe Rogan's show when he has Alex Jones on because Spotify
Starting point is 00:51:23 is going to be like, that's my money. And Google, my understanding is a shareholder to some is a, is a shareholder to some degree, or there's some connection there between the two. I think Google might have the majority or something like that. I don't know. Long story short, even that's not the case. Spotify does not want to lose money. They don't think they're going to lose money. And they're not going to let these big companies take their money from them by taking Joe Rogan down, which means we all get to ride the coattails of joe rogan's show it's not like you're gonna get absolute free speech on most platforms
Starting point is 00:51:49 but joe rogan's hosted you know controversial guests and the media's lost their mind over it now spotify's putting putting money behind it on youtube and all these other platforms on every platform that's like we win dude yeah this is like uh this is like the uh inverse of john stewart coming back to the daily show that seems like a desperate play for them to install this guy to deceptively edit reality and try to just take the election uh but this is like a big cultural win you know this is very impactful especially he's gonna be back on youtube during election it will be election year do we know when this starts i believe it's now i mean i don't know when they're going to. When was it? It was the end of 2020.
Starting point is 00:52:26 They were like January of 2021 or something. He moved over. Wow. So it's about time for his contracts to expire. I don't know. Spotify announced in 2020 that it was going to acquire Megaphone for $235 million. Wow. And then it looks like the deal didn't finalize for a little while, but. I'm pretty sure it went through.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Are you sure? It is finalized now. It just looks like it took a year or two oh right on so how does this affect the sort of the left-wing industry of getting advertisers to boycott um you know personalities and then somehow that chokes off their revenue yeah i'm not really sure well it's basically it's basically it's the end man you think spotify is is as as a major player in the space is going to tolerate that they're going to go to joe rogan google's going to start going here and spotify is going to say don't touch it because that's their money now it's not yep you think they'll listen yeah google and well let's see i don't know if this is uh i pulled it up in the spring of 2019 google announced the acquisition of the world-renowned swedish music streaming service
Starting point is 00:53:28 spotify google believed the acquisition of the world's most popular service blah blah blah did it actually they considered a transaction amount to be quite acceptable uh spotify google remain as two independent companies in 2023 okay so it's not but i think basically when you have major industries saying we endorse this look at dave chappelle's comedy you look at bud light sponsoring shane gillis it's just like we're winning the culture and the culture is what leads to the politics like donald trump getting elected is a component of that when you look at all the things that the left is doing the democrats are doing it's like they want to burn the country down incite violence because they're desperate it's like you were saying about ted bundy like
Starting point is 00:54:08 they the walls are closing in man we're winning everything do you think we'll see a trump on rogan on youtube i don't know man it would be epic it'd be epic i mean you know biden's not gonna do he can't sit in one place and talk for two hours his His face would fall off. This is one of the things I've started to start following just for my own amusement. Like he did the national prayer breakfast and he spoke for 10 minutes. And the year before he spoke for 20. So it really is dwindling how long he speaks. So he really, I mean, we've talked about this with the people who are running for office right now.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Vivek was really good about this. RFK is on the podcast circuit. They're kind of embracing these alternative platforms, but this format of just talking for several hours is not natural to everybody. And I really don't think it's natural to Joe Biden. Not even on the people who are running for the conservative ticket,
Starting point is 00:55:01 like DeSantis and Haley couldn't do a podcast. But Trump is a complete natural for it. I mean, he goes long on his speeches just because he wants to anyways. I mean, he could talk for three hours by himself. Him and Rogan eating Trump steaks. Just hanging out, having a good time. It'd be great. Trump steaks.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Yeah. Let's do it. Trump steaks still exist, right? I have no idea. I thought they were done, but they could be. This is the thing about this. This is what really, you know what? You know what helped me be aware of the lies about donald trump in the 2015-16 cycle i'm i'm at uh fusion in uh and it's
Starting point is 00:55:33 in miami it's in durell it's like right next to trump durell uh golf resort okay and so if i'm in new york and everyone's saying oh trump did this trump is that i'm like wow that's crazy i'm like you know i'm and i'm and i'm i'm going on the ground i'm meeting people and i'm like well that one doesn't seem to make sense but then i go to trump durell trump steaks available on the menu trump bottled water and trump magazine i'm i'm fairly certain it was all there and i went oh trump ice his companies are like mcdonald's makes their own mayonnaise it's cheaper for Trump to make a product internally than it is to pay a premium to have another company do it.
Starting point is 00:56:08 If Trump gets his stakes from a big steak company, he's going to be paying for their 10% margin or whatever. If he does it all on his own as a Trump steak, he saves 10% when he sources the materials
Starting point is 00:56:19 for his hotels and his resorts. Hotels need bottled water. It's kind of a microcosm of america first right always buy from trump yeah but then the media kept saying that like his companies are bankrupt and they were like you can't even buy trump steaks where are they at and i was like huh well they're right here along with the taco bowl that's right the taco bowl i wonder if trump steaks are still no trump states are unfortunately not a thing they stopped in 2007 which is pain really but i'm sure they're still on the menu i'm sure like if you get a steak at
Starting point is 00:56:48 there's like a freeze-dried vertical integration going on there yeah it wouldn't not be so no this is also isn't it not i feel like it'd be normal if if people shut down branches of their business like this happens all the time why the fact that he even built a trump steak brand is hilarious in the first place he's not gonna get credit for that steaks i don't know tim you might have something here tim steaks they had trump water and i brought i brought uh trump water back to the office in new york because they were all saying that trump water went out of business and that trump was bankrupt all these companies and they loved running this line where they were like donald trump has been
Starting point is 00:57:24 bankrupt five times how is he still rich and well it's because the banks are propping up it's because he had 500 companies so 495 were fine and the trump organization was fine so i come back i'm like oh here's the trump water like where'd you get this and i'm like from trump hotel like literally next to the office in miami they were like wow i'm like these people have no idea what's going on in the world god look at that picture that picture. I just want like a SkyMall equivalent, but it's Trump-related products. Yeah. Like just Trump Mall, and he just sells you like all kinds of random things. Those have like popped up independently all around the country, you know?
Starting point is 00:57:55 Really? Say, I want Trump official stuff. This is like this like mainstream wasteland, and then all of a sudden you'll see a store that's just like the Trump store. There's a lot of them in Florida. What? You'll see them in like the middle of the country but you'll just be driving along and then you'll see just all of a sudden just a window plastered with trump paraphernalia it's like a souvenir shop for like
Starting point is 00:58:12 the part of america that's voting for him like this is amazing this is crazy look at this in the wikipedia for trump stakes says in august 2015 time magazine included trump stakes on the list of trump business failures in december 2015 during the 2016 presidential campaign a super PAC supporting john casick produced an ad mocking trump stakes blah blah blah i don't care dude i should totally make a list of my business failures yeah there's a lot right i once worked on an app to facilitate political donations on facebook for politicians and this was like 2009 or 10 or something, very early days. It was like the app days of Facebook.
Starting point is 00:58:49 And I was working with some, like how would anyone ever find out? Like we worked on a project. It went nowhere. We fizzled out. We had like an early prototype that couldn't really, you know, then we were like, ah,
Starting point is 00:58:56 we don't know. There's too much regulation. Let's do something else. The amount of things Trump's probably worked on. The funny thing is they mock him for his failures. It's a perfect, perfect example of who they are. They have no no failures they think that's a good thing yeah but they never tried to do anything they're averse to risk and they don't want to fail
Starting point is 00:59:13 they're averse to any work yes this is true yeah that's why they like the pods i mean look let's let's let's let's this. We put them in the pods. They don't mind. We give them the bugs. They also don't mind. Who's complaining? I don't got to eat the bugs. And I'm not going to live in the pod, but they can.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I mean, that's what they're doing. Give them the new Apple headset. Yeah. This is my life plan, right? Like, just let them go and I'll stay here. And if that's what you guys want to do, cool, cool, cool. But I don't want to. In that direction, like the trend of a lot of people growing up not having kids they're just going to fizzle out and also they're going to plug into the neural link and
Starting point is 00:59:52 they're going to go to their micro universes where they're you know the demon slayer and you know they got all the busty women jumping up and down around them it's funny because they don't like elon right now but they also didn't like trump but it was trump's vaccine but now they love the vaccine so at some point they'll probably like the neural link even if also didn't like Trump, but it was Trump's vaccine, but now they love the vaccine. So at some point they'll probably like the neural link. Even if they didn't like Elon's metaverse, because that's how they, that's their logic. Yeah. No, but look how many of these, these liberal people have hidden their blue checks on Twitter. Yeah. Why, why sign up for the service just to pretend like you didn't sign up for it? You know what I mean? Yeah. What a genius move by Elon to just hide that though. It's like the best to give them the option. You can hide your verification. Great move. Great move. That's because they're scared politically. You can't give Elon money. What a genius move by Elon to just hide that though. It's like the best move ever. To give him the option, you can hide your verification badge.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Great move. Great move. That's crazy. You want to be a coward, you can do it. I think these people are going to line up. The left is going to line up to jump into the matrix with smiles on their faces. It's their entire MO. And they're going to advocate their kids do it.
Starting point is 01:00:41 And they're going to, you know what? You're better off. Ignorance is bliss. Well, look. They're going to be eating those big juicy steaks yeah how could you be depressed right a clinical um hormonal depression i suppose where you just don't understand why you're you feel your body doesn't produce the correct amount of serotonin yeah or something like that but for the average person their listlessness and depression i love the funny funny thing about Lauren Southern had this tweet where she said,
Starting point is 01:01:06 before we give you SSRIs, you have to go to the gym twice a week or something. And everyone's like, you don't understand some people. And she's like, I'm not talking about people who are immobile. She's like, if you have the ability to go to the gym,
Starting point is 01:01:17 go start working out. It releases endorphins. It makes you feel better. What's going to happen is someone's going to be like, I'm depressed. And I'm like, have you considered plugging in an oral link and being a mini god in your own universe my friend uh joe allen who's with the war room went to some tech convention recently and he
Starting point is 01:01:32 posted a video of a new like type of metaverse thing where you can plug in you're like a little girl i'm like yeah it's like they were like it was like uh i know i know and there was like a feed that you put on your like a thing on your mouth that i know i know and there was like a feed that you put on your like a thing on your mouth that i think wait wait start over an adult man went to a convention convention for adults including adult men is all tech for all new tech and there was one like booth sharing some new tech of like a metaverse thing where you plug in and have the headset on and uh a mouth thing over you so you can scream or be loud and no one can hear you outside and brought you into a you are a little girl and the character on the screen was like a young girl so i mean i
Starting point is 01:02:11 guess sell it as like look the transgender surgeries are even cheaper in the metaverse well i suppose it's like if someone made a video game and it's like some old dude plays it that's kind of creepy but i'm not going to blame someone who made a game with a character you know i think it's weird because that's promoting like you a lot of people can go into the metaverse and now be these things that they want to be oh bro i think that's morally this exists already well it's west world right no it exists already so during lockdowns uh we we still have the oculus nobody uses it but uh shout outs to Space Pirate Robot Game. You ever play that one? Yo, that game is amazing. It's a VR game for the Oculus.
Starting point is 01:02:53 And you're staying on this big platform and there's robots flying at you. Oh, I've played this game. Yeah. It's so fun. And you have like different kinds of guns or an energy sword and a shield. And so I just love whacking the robots. It's so fun. But there's also a chat room function where you go into this virtual reality chat room and there's like a rabbit walking around and there's like the mad
Starting point is 01:03:12 hatter and there's just like you know a crocodile dude and one guy's a carrot and they're walking around and the guy's like identifies a carrot you know like no one really i'm kidding no one really said that oh so they're not npcs they're's humans. It's human beings in the game, walking around in their VR space. It's inanimate objects. And you can like point the stick and then teleport because you can only move so far. But this is what I was saying. Like in the future, you're going to be in a business meeting and you're going to like, it's going to be indistinguishable from reality.
Starting point is 01:03:39 You're going to put on your headset or whatever, plug in your neural link, fall back. And then you're walking into the office. You sit down at the table and you got Mario to your left. You got the Incredible Hulk over here. A giant cupcake with a smiley face. You don't even need an electric car to get there. No, you just teleport. And the cupcake is going to look at you with a big old smile and go,
Starting point is 01:03:57 Okay, let's get into the TPS reports. Our sales were down last week. Nobody wants to buy anything. New guy's going to walk in looking just like a human being. And he's going to be the only one. He's going to be like, am I in the wrong room? I'm like, no, no, you're here. This is Jim.
Starting point is 01:04:08 He's been emailing you. He identifies as a cupcake. You go, oh, okay. Well, okay, great. Yeah. My brother is an eclair. Like, oh, really? You guys should talk sometime.
Starting point is 01:04:18 You're making a lot of comments. Yeah. It's like- No, and then the cupcake is like, actually, eclairs are very offensive to us. It's like, oh, I didn't know. I'm sorry. I mean, I do think that there will be people who are interested in this. And in some ways, this sounds more entertaining than like endless Zoom meetings if you work from home.
Starting point is 01:04:32 But I just think it'll ultimately be one of these things that like really splits people. And I think to your point from earlier, like people are already kind of dividing up in the way they live. We have very separate lifestyles going on people who choose not to have children and are maybe more like more into pursuing their specific interests the metaverse might be a great place because it makes traveling cheaper because you just have to plug in you don't have to buy a plane ticket it makes you know something that might physically risk you like if you wanted to be a great uh skydiver right you don't actually have to do it you can just get the thrill of doing it virtually. Whereas there'll be people who are like, no, I want to talk to people in real life and I want to have kids and I want to bear responsibilities in a way that you clearly
Starting point is 01:05:11 don't want to. They'll just stop interacting. I saw this reel on Instagram where someone was saying like when you move different cities and like one group of friends is talking about settling down and having kids and the other one is like, I'm doing peyote this week and I'm doing whatever. There are just people who split and they do different things and they live different ways and they'll stop intersecting at some point do we take away their right to vote or run for office if they're in a meta only net taxpayers can vote problem solved all right there we go that solves all problems if you're a net taxpayer you can vote have a nice day door dashes just come out ahead because they will be delivering food to all of the people plugged into the metaverse.
Starting point is 01:05:48 You cannot feed people on the metaverse. The Matrix got all this wrong. They needed it because there's no conflict without it, but the premise of the Matrix is that they gave humans paradise and humans rejected it because humans need conflict. But there's no reason to create one Matrix. Each
Starting point is 01:06:04 individual person could be in their own matrix with experiencing their own conflict and they would never have rebellion the machines would control everyone because you'd be in your own universe and they could make the universe whatever you wanted it to be kind of like a truman show more like sort of yeah but no one's really watching it's just to control you and you put yourself there self-imposed truman show and what if uh what if simulation theory what if it's prison you are for like if if we get to that point of neuralink someone commits a crime they're going to say you are sentenced to live a life in this way through neuralink and so you know they take out your happyink and then Neuralink and then they put in the bad one. Well, no, they don't have to change anything.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Neuralink is an implant. They just program it. You just wireless connect to it. Yeah. So some guy is driving his car and he's drunk. He's like, oh, and then he crashes and he kills some teenager and they're like, you're going to prison. He's like, no. And they're like, we're going to make you live a life as a parent who loses a child in this way and you will live in them and that'll be your punishment and the sentence
Starting point is 01:07:09 is only like a week long but they put the guy in the pod crying they turn the thing on and then he experiences 70 years of life as growing up having a family raising a kid kids killed by a drunk driver he has to live through it all and then he wakes up like then he ages gets old dies and then wakes up in the pod like like would we as a society accept that as a punishment you think the problem with the united states is that we went a little crazy with the no cruel unusual punishment thing and uh it's a good thing but i mean we went a little crazy with it in that like now there's literally no instead of actually trying to figure out ways to create deterrence we just say put them in a box and we've created gang hangouts we've like just centralized gang headquarters yeah and it's like it is good we said no cruel unusual punishment the problem is we need to be
Starting point is 01:08:01 more specific about what it means to be cruel and unusual like our punishments are completely uniform for the most part and it's you go into a box and then like people are getting raped in there yeah is that not cruel and unusual it certainly is but we don't care so we've uniform like it's made this uniform thing whereas like there are means of creating penalties for crimes that are better deterrence and i I'm not going to list a bunch, but I'll give you an example. And I think it might be like Switzerland. If you're speeding, you have to pay a percentage fine. So in the United States, you pay a dollar fine.
Starting point is 01:08:34 I think it's Switzerland. I'm not sure. But there's countries in Europe where it's like, okay, your fine is, you know, 0.5% of your yearly income based on your past year's taxes. And that's getting kicked in the balls. If you're making, you know, 20 million bucks, you're like,'s taxes and that's getting kicked in the balls if you're making you know 20 million bucks you're like oh man that's a fine but what happens is like right now we're like nope everybody's got to pay 50 bucks for a parking ticket it's like okay for a lot of people that's just paying for parking so like uh wrigley field in chicago for instance
Starting point is 01:08:59 people everyone parks illegally because it's like i'll get it i'll get a hundred dollar ticket cost 100 bucks to park. Yeah. And so they're double parked. I remember cause I used to live there two blocks away and people would double park down our street, blocking our cars in. And it's like, we got to get them towed,
Starting point is 01:09:15 get them towed. And then what happens when the people come out, they pay 200 bucks to get the car out of the impound lot, which is not that far away. And they're like, okay, they're like worth it. Yup.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Because you can't park anywhere else. Right. It's like you're driving down Clark and and there's a guy waiting service right and now you know where your car is at you're like i just want to come out my car will be it'll be safe in the impound no one's gonna break in or steal anything yeah so perhaps i'm phrasing it wrong like we should not allow cruel and unusual punishment but we should allow for variety in how we handle crimes yeah this is what I found interesting about the nitrogen hypoxia execution that took it was the first one ever on January 25th.
Starting point is 01:09:50 And the whole argument was that this guy, Kenneth Eugene Smith, who's in Alabama, dead now, he had they couldn't do a lethal injection in 2022, I think. And part of it was he had said, you're not gonna be able to get a vein and it's gonna be uncomfortable for me. And this is cruel. You guys shouldn't make me do this. And eventually that was true. It didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Alabama stayed executions for three months. And during that time, he was like, I want nitrogen hypoxia. That's what I want. And Alabama is one of three states where it's legal. Then later he was like, no, there are too many risks. Like, I don't want to do this. And ultimately, you you know legal proceedings the un there was a commission there being like it is it's human experimentation you can't do this
Starting point is 01:10:30 and when he died you know you had some outlets that ran it that were like it took 22 minutes to strap in he struggled well also there are reports that like he refused he held his breath he didn't want to breathe the nitrogen is coming in just like during the lethal injection there are reports that he at one point you have to clench your fist and he wouldn't do it like ultimately this person did not want to die which i sympathize with except you were on death row so i want to die quickly he wanted to yeah it is like you're on death row for a murder so you knew this one was coming uh only pc america is going to do like oh how safe this whole conversation is like is this is nitrogen hypoxia less cruel more cruel is it okay to have other options because if you can't get a vein on someone it takes several hours to try and find when you ultimately call it off that
Starting point is 01:11:15 seems way more cruel to me but what about just like regular old hypoxia right why nitro it's nitrogen but it's like nitrogen deprives the oxygen from your body so they just fall asleep or what you fall asleep and then eventually you're going to organ failure but you don't feel it because you're asleep okay what's wrong with it yeah he said that if anything were to go wrong i could be a vegetable i could risk a stroke which is like there are risks to lethal injection too and then one of his there were lots of things that came up at last minute resistance uh he had a spiritual advisor who was who filed a complaint saying albama's made me sign this waiver that if anything goes wrong if i'm within three feet of him i risk exposure to this nitrogen and you're stopping me from being able to anoint him at death uh well so it's it's
Starting point is 01:11:55 just it's as we move forward with all of these new technologies and all of these new options we have to ask along the way like is this experimentation is it cruel and unusual but also you have to say like people who are delving into this sometimes are just doing it to avoid punishment here's here's the harsh reality in uh singapore i think it's uh six canings you get you get caned six times yeah the canings are like people don't understand it's like a it's like a hard giant bamboo stick it's it's not fun at all like you pass out if you litter they beat you yeah and so nobody litters nobody chews gum do they do it publicly i know it's not public it's
Starting point is 01:12:31 not public it's private thing so i'm against the state being allowed to kill people uh and so is one of my favorite writers albert albert camus someone i love his writing and uh he was also against the state having the ability to kill people however he made an argument in uh the essay notes on a guillotine that if we're going to do this it needs to be very public to actually deter people from doing it instead of doing it behind closed doors where no one knows it's an amazing essay i actually don't think the death penalty is a strong deterrent i think publicly beating someone while laughing at them would be there's a especially with a lot of criminals having this like uh especially in chicago a lot of the criminals are they want respect humiliating them in public would be a deterrent for sure i'm not saying i advocate for it i'm
Starting point is 01:13:13 saying the guys that i know in the south side if they were like if you get caught stealing we will put you in a stock and spank you and shame you and make you wear a diaper in public and take pictures and post it to the internet, they'd be like, I ain't getting caught dude, I ain't doing that, you're nuts. I got Connell on the brain, but that's what she did in California when she was AG. Spanked people. No.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Well, there was that Montel Williams stuff. A little bit of trying to humiliate the work having prison crews fight wildfires. Well, that's slavery. That's different. That's not humiliation.
Starting point is 01:13:49 They want that. The people in the prisons ask for that duty because it gets them out. Yeah. They get to go on, they get to go out, they get to go on rides, they get paid a dollar an hour. But it's like, it's compelled servitude. Right. No, I'm saying like, I don't't speak for everybody but caning in public would be a tremendous deterrent i mean there's a reason why we don't do it because it's so severe and i'm not again not advocating for it but that's the harsh reality is that places like singapore there's no
Starting point is 01:14:16 gum on the ground people don't litter they're there because it like you will be beaten we used to put people in stocks here yeah what happened to that make stocks great again yes make america stock again st-o-c-k okay would you guys would you guys support uh neural link prisons no i don't think i think real life is real life and you have to be punished in real life yeah i do too it's like waking up from a dream you know it will affect you for a day perhaps i also just don't trust neural link at all and so there's a level of i don't feel like i can in good faith put someone in neural link prison if i also don't i will let elon but hold on experiment on bad people hold on let's say you got somebody like
Starting point is 01:14:56 that was that was there's one group that tried that this dad let's say you got somebody who he's 20 years old and him and his buddies go into a bodega and armed robbery, steal from the store clerk, smash everything up, take all his money, ransack the place and then leave. They get caught later and he gets sentenced to four years in prison for the armed robbery. His sentences, he will be placed in a neural link where he will wake up with the memories of a store clerk owner and none of his past life. And he will experience having his life savings and life destroyed in this moment. And then after that moment, he wakes up realizing what he did and how they felt. Isn't that kind of like what they were doing in Clockwork Orange when they had the guy's eyes kept open and they're showing him all the footage? Yeah, but like actually having him experience
Starting point is 01:15:50 the life of a... Yeah, a little different. You're a guy who saved up... You know, he's like, I'm working really hard. My wife is sick. I need to make money. And then you come in, smash something and destroy it all. And then they leave and you experience all of that suffering. i guess one
Starting point is 01:16:05 of the things that brings up for me is the idea like in the neural link are you able to program someone's emotions because like if you don't feel the guilt or if you don't feel empathy really then going into someone else's life and suffering like would you experience that's the point like you force them through that experience and it's monitored and measured. I'm just really worried about the amount of power who's controlling the Neuralink. That would be...
Starting point is 01:16:29 Yeah, I'm just anti-Neuralink, I think, across the board. Reality is pretty good. What about only as... Only for the left. Yeah. Only for people... No, but they want it.
Starting point is 01:16:39 No, but they want it. Like, what if the prisoners are like, okay, you can do this one or you can go into the Neuralink? Like, do we want there like lethal injection versus nitrogen hypoxia do we want there to be options for people to choose how they're punished what if we just say we're gonna we're we're gonna send you like you committed a crime you can go to prison regular real life prison for like okay so this
Starting point is 01:16:59 is a serious crime it's a negligent homicide you were drinking and driving you killed two kids you're gonna get 10 years because it's your it's your like third dui you weren't supposed you didn't It's a serious crime. It's a negligent homicide. You were drinking and driving. You killed two kids. You're going to get 10 years because it's your, it's your like third DUI. You weren't supposed, you didn't have a license. You're not someone who was like trying to go out and kill, but you've shown a pattern of behavior. And they say, what are we going to do? We're going to lock you up for 15 years, 20 years, or Neuralink for life. But Neuralink happiness.
Starting point is 01:17:24 You can go into this machine we remove you from society because you're a danger to society you will live a normal happy life where you will feel good and you will cause no harm to anybody i guess that's the other question like is imprisonment about separating people from the population or is it about rehabilitation because there are other countries that have different feelings about this and i think it would be hard to know it's supposed to be in the united states the purpose of prison is to uh unite gang members and harden them to the worst criminals until there's a lockdown and then you release them all so the crime right and then they keep their populations down it's just a culling method man that's all it is but shane what if one day you're
Starting point is 01:17:59 like on your deathbed your family's all around you and then you're like thank you for such a good life and they're like we love you we love you and then you wake up and you're like some 26 year old gangbanger who like shot who shot an author who wrote weird sci-fi mystery novels i would be extremely depressed i would have to wake up and not have that family well how do you wake up but think about like you guys have you ever watched the rick and morty episode where uh summer is in the car and rick is like protect summer and so that's good it shoots a guy in the spine at first it slices a guy into cubes and she screams like don't do don't kill people so then it paralyzes the next guy and she's like stop hurting people so then when the police show
Starting point is 01:18:41 up it it genetically it clones the son of one of the police officers. And the child comes out and he's like, daddy. And he's like, oh, my God. And he hugs his son. But then his son's like, don't hurt the car, daddy. He's like, what? And then the kid melts and he's screaming. Like, think about the kind of torture you could do to people with a Neuralink where you give them a child and then force them to to live
Starting point is 01:19:07 full neural link reality of watching their child be murdered in front of them it also depends on the degree to which these people can or have a capacity for emotion because some of these psychopaths i don't know if it would work on them so in the end we were saying like you can make them feel some emotions or whatever but like i don't think that's the point the point is to get the person to feel those emotions but then you you get to the idea of, yeah, whether they can feel those or if they're capable of feeling it. Yeah, would, like Hannah mentioned earlier, are you able to control their
Starting point is 01:19:32 emotions or you just try to manipulate them? Well, but like, you could theoretically make, I think at the point of neural link, you can make them feel things. Like if we're talking about read, write. Physical pain, emotional pain. Emotional, everything. Like, if we can write to the brain enough to where they can experience things,
Starting point is 01:19:48 you could force emotional sensation. That's what I'm curious about. Because like, again, I would never be a foreign Neuralink. I don't think I could ever be convinced. But with like, you can make someone feel something, but it is enough to rewire the way their brain works, right? Like if you had a sociopath, is Neuralink gonna be able to make them experience enough to make them have empathy like if you're hardwired to to function a certain way maybe you
Starting point is 01:20:10 just use the neural link to reprogram his brain to be virtuous but that's that's the point no but yes that's the point the way hey we're gonna take out the murder part yeah be careful but this is this is the point right the point is when so imagine the sci-fi movie, a guy is living a life and he experiences the death of his girlfriend and he starts an organization to fight drunk driving and he becomes an old man. And then, you know, like a young woman comes in and just wants to let you know that, you know, you really helped my dad and the organization you did, blah, blah, blah, turned his alcoholism around. And he's like, thank you so much. And then on his deathbed, he's got, you know, his loved ones around them are like, you stopped so many drunk drivers. And then he wakes up as a 23 year old who killed two people in a drunk driving accident.
Starting point is 01:20:49 And he's immediately like, we can never allow drunk driving ever again. Oh my God. And then completely abandons. It could work on some and it might not work on others. That's why I think it's, it's an unreliable punishment. But hold on for the sociopaths who can't feel emotional pain. You just simulate them being flayed alive over and over again we'll do a we need a neural link for unit 730
Starting point is 01:21:11 or whatever it was 371 731 whatever it is in japan uh yeah so this is why i'm trying to talk to elon about the neural link so we can get answers to these questions one day one day he'll respond yeah i don't know man there's a whole lot of power for the person pushing the buttons the thing about neural link is there's beautiful things about what he talks about elon talking about now with fixing epilepsy or paraplegics goes yeah exactly but these these things we're talking about that are i don't think that far away from what neural link is capable of doing i'm really curious do you think i think we use for people that have like that have psychological,
Starting point is 01:21:46 what's the word? I guess antisocial disorders? Neurodivergence. Okay, hey, I'm neurodivergent. I had a brain injury. I'm neurodivergent, all right, guys? I have real brain damage, okay, guys? Someone who has a personality.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Stop claiming that you're special. Always want to be the victim. I'm from South Africa. I lived abroad. I have brain injury I get it I get it You're very very special
Starting point is 01:22:09 No You're all very special Now go home No but the thing is Like could it Could it cure A personality disorder Yeah that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:22:17 Like could someone That's like a murderer Have their That's murder Turn off But then someone Could hack it And someone would
Starting point is 01:22:22 Program what personality To you Right Who's personality Well someone Someone posted uh there was a meme actually i wonder i wonder if i can find it uh it was basically like some guys being annoying on the train so they hack his neural link to make him trans to give him to give him gender dysphoria No, thank you. We can't have that future. Tim, I'm sure you saw in Ghost in the Shell and a lot of the different stuff they talk about there,
Starting point is 01:22:50 they would hack people, literally, because if anyone knows the anime, they have people in there that are cyborgs, and they would literally hack the cyborg and make them... One of the opening scenes, this guy doesn't know what he's doing, and he thinks he has this whole program life
Starting point is 01:23:00 of 30 years, and in reality, he just got hacked this morning, and he thinks he's living out this whole grand scheme, and he's a wife and kids and stuff but really it's not even real it's just fake memory this is what dreams are people just hacking us in the simulation i mean could be who knows man no i don't buy dreams are when you log out and you're out yeah you log out like in westworld there is no AFK no thank you did you like Westworld
Starting point is 01:23:27 did you watch it I watched the first season I think like most people yeah and then yeah what happened Jesse from
Starting point is 01:23:34 Breaking Bad got really depressed and I was like yeah the first season of Westworld was amazing I just binged it
Starting point is 01:23:42 and then the second season I was like this is trash first season is great but I reference that lot talking when we talk about like npcs right the the robots in westworld couldn't see a door so you knew right they couldn't see a door they're a robot and when you talk about npcs and the alternate reality they're and they don't see our reality that's they're the robots right so i just look at that show it's like a test for vampires i can't see the reflection and what if we are all NPCs and there are weird,
Starting point is 01:24:05 you know, eight foot tall green people who walk around like just laughing and watching the show and they're like, oh, this is so fun. Yeah, I guess there's a degree
Starting point is 01:24:12 of relativism to NPCs because we would be then to the shadow beings or the gray aliens that are walking amongst us. The shadow beings. Yeah. They're here right now.
Starting point is 01:24:21 They're in that chair. Yeah, they're just like, they're watching, like it's like a movie. Yeah. I'm'm just like look at these guys talking about these guys thinking they have free speech free will how it's the world below they all think they're gonna make millions there's some fat green skin thing sitting next to its fat green skinned roommate eating popcorn being like it's really funny that they're debating free speech but they're all programmed wait till they hit the next level and we upgrade this into wait till we
Starting point is 01:24:49 see what we do with joe rogan next yeah they're really enjoying their corpse president it's so funny i mean it it certainly doesn't feel like we're in the uh in in real life how crazy everything is it's just like you know people want to look for miracles i'm like well donald trump being president doesn't seem like real life nobody thought it was possible and here he is so it's i don't know what you think miracles are supposed to look like but all the crazy stuff that we've seen over the past few years it really does feel like someone wrote this yeah i i think i don't believe we're in a simulation i believe that there is a false reality put on top of this reality by the corporate press, by the bureaucrats.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Oh, that's true. And they keep selling it and people buy into that world, which is basically like being a simulation, which is why we feel like we're in an alternate reality from the people on the left. You think Trump is real? I stopped believing in Trump when I was 12. You think the 90s was actually a thing? Yeah, it was too good to be true.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Yeah. How could they make it? Wait, you remember the 90s think about what it's going to be like with deep fakes in the future they're going to have candidates they just manufacture there will be a guy named like you know joe biden joe biden and everyone watches the videos online and they see him on tv and he doesn't exist they're just deep fake creating this and everyone's like i didn't vote for joe biden or or bo jiden there's no actual people yeah dude in the future they're going to if we have a future they're going to have debates on whether or not robots
Starting point is 01:26:10 should vote what what it means to be a person you know can they can they run for office because they'll be so advanced you would have the robots next generation had that episode really yeah i think it's called measure of a man interesting and. And it's data, Android, is they hold a trial to determine whether or not he's property or a sentient being with rights. What was he? That he was a sentient and had rights. And it seems also obvious to us now, but we grew up with people having written these ideas out. And it's been a long time since I saw the episode, but I think there was one where he gets asked by the guy who says he's a machine,
Starting point is 01:26:49 basic questions like, how do you know you're alive? And he just goes, how do you know you're alive? And the guy's getting frustrated. He's like, I'm a human being. I am alive.
Starting point is 01:26:57 And like, and then he asks them, you know, questions. Can you, how do you, how do you, how can you prove?
Starting point is 01:27:01 And he's like, can you, and the guys can't. Right. And they're going to try to redefine what a soul even means if we get to that future where robots are fighting for their ability to vote or or even be married legally like that i i do see that as like a possible future in the dystopia that we are on right now and then humans will die off and the robots take over right yeah oh i'll miss humans the worst no you won't it'll it'll be like
Starting point is 01:27:23 thousand thousands of years and the last human didn't they make a like isn't there like a movie or a show about this where it's like there's only one old human left and everyone else is a robot there is that game uh what is it what's that what's that cat game you guys play the one that game is awesome you play as a cat and you're in a simulator you're no you play as a cat you're in a future where humans have all died and all that's left are the ai robots that served humans and they've become confused and purposeless and dejected because there's no longer any humans and so you're a cat going around do they do they end up like the cat rally the robots to the robot of him i like there's uh i guess it's the most
Starting point is 01:28:03 human thing on there's multiple levels one level it's the most human thing on the planet. There's multiple levels. One level, it's like the slums and the sewers. Everyone, it's just robots. Then there's one level where the security robots have everything locked down and won't let anyone or anything leave because that was their job. And so all the robots are just
Starting point is 01:28:19 trapped and stuck and can't do anything. But then the cat, because you're the cat, it learns how to talk to a robot and then it opens this do anything. But then the cat, because you're the cat, it learns how to talk to a robot and then it opens this thing up and then releases the robots. I guess the premise is now the robots can become the new civilization or something. Are they all ultimately indebted to cats?
Starting point is 01:28:36 I have to assume that the cat ends up on top. This is cat person propaganda for sure. That only cats will save the AI robot. Yeah, and the cat has like a little backpack with a robot that comes out and like adorable i love it i'm in i'm gonna play i mean the game's awesome yeah it's super awesome i understood how video games work yeah yeah and i remember when the ads came out and it was like showing the cat just like doing cat stuff
Starting point is 01:28:59 and like rubbing its face and then you play it how can we help you today well so i thought it from the ads it was just like you get to play as a cat and the cat knocks things off shelves or whatever and then i played and i was like oh it's a sci-fi dystopia where humans have been wiped out and robots have taken over very different game to what i thought it was going to be yeah but it was good it was fun you know i think that's future righted for i thought this for a long time actually humans are going to create ai and robots the capabilities of self-replication and humans die off for some reason and robots are just like
Starting point is 01:29:30 adios. We got it from here. We're progressing ourselves out of existence. The robots can live by themselves and build more robots and they can float through space for 50 billion years and we're going to let them we're not going gonna get in a fight
Starting point is 01:29:45 and scorch the sun like the matrix we're just gonna be like hey no it's cool like why would robots and humanity fight that way if anything what'll happen is we create rudimentary ai that is too stupid and then just shoves corn down our throats like humans like corn make more corn corn good i mean because like current algorithms produce insanity however if we actually get to the point where ai is improving itself it will become some kind of demigod instantly the exponential growth curve means it's like within an hour it doubles its intelligence within an hour it's quadrupled with another hour it's 10x then it's 100 then a thousand and it's just and the human race just lets that happen and doesn't try to stop it at any point we are actively building it right now
Starting point is 01:30:28 and no one is resisting no but after it starts wrestling for control of the world but there there's no there's no circumstance where the ai has to wrestle for control we have handed all of the control to it so you're saying we've already surrendered to the rope absolutely yeah absolutely i criticize him on a lot but he has i mean look at your algorithmic facebook and youtube and twitter and instagram the robot has decided what you should think and you can't do anything about it out of sight out of mind i mean ask ask yourself why it is that your liberal friends and family members don't know what joe biden's doing and there certainly some people are more responsible than others but the machine controls what you can see and if you can't see the news you won't know
Starting point is 01:31:10 what's happening harry tumman said i freed many slaves i would have freed many more if only they knew they were slaves so i see a post from the krasnstein's you know we love to rag on these guys and it's a clip where someone is talking about the barisma scandal and i think it was ed krenstein said this is a lie and it was proven a lie imagine that being fed to someone in an algorithm and they believe the barisma stuff is not true this like ed's line he's he's it is it is so clearly true all that stuff that's happened and there's just piles and piles of evidence but you go on twitter the for you page sends you false information and in your mind you're like wow that was a lie it was all a lie and you believe joe biden did not engage in that shakedown this is like a problem i
Starting point is 01:31:52 had you know the mario naufal whoever that conglomerate of people is on twitter you know the x feed wants me to see their posts all the time. And recently he shared that the Pawn Stars son died, but he shared the wrong son picture. And that was out there for hours. And then eventually it was deleted because a lot of people were like, you're sharing the wrong son. But people will have seen that post, hundreds of thousands, and then they'll believe that reality where that person was dead, which creates a kind of false Mandela effect yeah exactly yeah and then they're like someone got 10 years later like that's not entirely accurate one of his sons did die right but they saw the picture of the other son so in 10 years they're gonna be like yeah you know john died they're like no it was bill like shut up dude i remember when we're from different
Starting point is 01:32:36 timelines that's the thing about the mandela effect because are you familiar with it no it's where uh people believe that there are different timelines or that the timeline changed and so some people remember mandela dying in prison while others remember remember that he was released he didn't die and so the mandela effect is why do so many people believe this happened the other one is the fruit of the fruit of the loom this is the best one so can you describe the fruit of the Loom logo? It has fruit on it. And what else?
Starting point is 01:33:09 I don't know. Like describe the fruit. Like bananas, cherries. An apple. And there's nothing else? It's got the loom that goes this way and then the words come into it this way. Charlie might be from the appropriate timeline. What's the loom?
Starting point is 01:33:21 Well, the loom refers to like the cornucopia basket there is no cornucopia the fruit of loom logo are you sure well and this is the timeline you're from this is either a failing of advertising in our memories or it's something to do with large hadron collider being turned on fruit of the loom but that doesn't mean like that could be their current logo logo you can go back and look they do claim that it never had a cornucopia. Where's that one from? This is so... Who made it?
Starting point is 01:33:49 I've never seen that. This was shared by someone. You've never seen that one? That's the only one I think about. So you guys are from different timelines. So nice to meet you. Here's the best part. So you can look up Fruit of the Loom's historical logos.
Starting point is 01:34:01 It never had the cornucopia, but people believe it did. Really? There was a rock like a metal band that made a gag version you know this you know this i've saw it and they put a cornucopia and it's from like the 80s or something and so people are like wait wait wait if this if they never did this how did these parodies of it exist with the cornucopia it's like with the berenstein bears as well there's a spelling that some people remember it being. Berenstein. Berenstein, I guess.
Starting point is 01:34:26 I forget what the spelling is. It was Berenstain. I don't know. Oh, E-I-N instead of. It's one of those. Yeah. So people constantly think. There's a whole ton of examples of this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:36 The thing about the Mandela effect, if you're South African, it's like, no. The real Mandela effect is that he had a great PR team and they convinced everyone that he wasn't a marxist violent right yeah but i mean he did spend his time in prison and he came and reformed and he did a lot of good things i think in the neural link right i i think i think you you explained it perfectly at the time when mandela was in prison a major news organization somewhere falsely reported his death so every so there's millions of people driving to work in the morning and they hear a report. Nelson Mandela has died in prison and it was wrong. And they never issued a correction because they lie.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Those people information in nothing out. Forgot about it. Don't know. Don't care. 10 years later, they hear he's alive and they go, what? No,
Starting point is 01:35:20 no, no, no. I remember when they said he died and the reality is the media lied. And I call that, I call those people, the engineers of the false reality the the fake simulation that we're not like the zeros and ones kind and uh they that they buy into this they they create a reality where people buy into it and uh it destabilizes all of reality so everyone's having these
Starting point is 01:35:38 conversations like wait that person didn't die or that or trump did this or didn't do that you know it's why i feel like we are actually injured so i i guess they added the cornucopia in 2022 what did we pressure them yeah there was a cornucopia oh that's so good i remember cornucopia from my childhood right well after the controversy and likely because everyone kept saying it they went okay we'll add that and it clearly does not look like it fits that's that's not the one i remember i've never seen i'm from isn't there like some kind of like scholastic warfare thing that had a similar thing conflated i don't know it could be to disprove the mandela effect two friends of mine i've created fake mandela effects nice so the way it works is
Starting point is 01:36:15 memory is very fallible so what you do is you ask them if they remember something very specific and obvious so like do you remember Power Rangers? Yes, of course. And you remember Rita Repulsa? Yes, of course. Then you think about something. Do you remember the gold and silver monsters that she would have? And she would make my monster grow.
Starting point is 01:36:36 And there was the giant golden ape. And then there was the silver one as well. And people go, yeah, of course, there was no silver one. I made the one up. And so the point is, people start thinking in their minds, their fills the gap like i remember rita i remember goldar and then the so and and the silver chimp as well that was the big one with the wings and then they think in their mind just because they're not really some people might catch it and they go a silver thing but many people that your brain will fill the gap because everything made sense except for that one
Starting point is 01:37:02 thing they'll put it in there i don't know if you remember this but this was like an unofficial part of my interview when i first met you and you pulled out mandela effect oh one of the nights and you were like i forget what it was kellogg or something what was spelled with two l's yeah yeah and you pulled you printed it out you're like well how do you think this was this from your timeline i think i passed which is why i did a kellogg i believe it's spelled with two g's right i forget now or i think it's been we're in a, right? I forget now. I think it is. We're in a few different timelines now. We're all going to get fired.
Starting point is 01:37:30 Yeah, Kellogg has two Gs in it. And so I think I did a fake Mandela effect with this, where I actually printed out the logo on something with one G. Yeah. And then the goal- What's wrong with this picture? No, the goal was, like, how do you spell Kellogg? And then, so I'm pretty sure we printed out a fake label that was identical but put so but spell kellogg was spelled with one g right so we could
Starting point is 01:37:52 fake a mandela effect by saying how do you spell kellogg and then they're like oh it's uh k-e-l-l-o-g-g it's like you're wrong and we show the box and it's got one g like whoa i always thought it was was two g's and then i'm like now do you remember it was like, whoa. I always thought it was 2Gs. And then I'm like, now do you remember? It was always 1G. Yeah, you're right. It was 1G. Actually, there's a fake box. We printed it out.
Starting point is 01:38:09 It's not real. It's so easy to convince people. We're not hiring you. You're out. You failed the Mandela test. Yeah. Good luck. All right.
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Starting point is 01:38:31 Here we go. Triple Flip says, after the whole Texas come and take it flag thing, are barbed wire tattoos cool again? Now, if you see a guy with a razor wire in his arm, you're like, based. Only razor wire. It's funny that razor wire is a symbol of resistance right now. Ted Cruz is actually getting it right now.
Starting point is 01:38:50 We made the come take it fly. We got a request for a poll. Is the Mandela effect real? I believe it. Personally, I think there's multiple types of Mandela effect. I do think the Large Hadron Collider has affected reality, but I also think there's a type we're talking about where the
Starting point is 01:39:07 corporate press has created a false reality and a false history and a false 70 instantly put it's right away yes oh it's at 78 right now and so uh votes are coming in 235 75 say yes it is i know someone whose husband of many years has uh it was like last year she said all of a sudden he thinks there's a light switch where there never was i heard that and she was like i think he's from a different timeline like maybe he is the uh this this the mandela effect resulted in a subculture of i think it's called dimension jumping oh yeah and it's where people claim with absolutely and i think they're just trolling but there are forums where they're like i've successfully jumped into another dimension
Starting point is 01:39:50 oh yeah it's called it's called like skipping or something it's on it's on tiktok it's a tiktok thing that took and so well well before the tiktok thing yeah yeah for a while yeah the idea was the mandela effect happens and everyone's like whoa but i remember mandela died and then someone goes you must be from a dimension where he did it. Somehow you crossed over. So the theory is this. I love it. Where we are right now in the multiverse is a thread. Every possible moment, millions of possibilities are emerging, all different timelines. Every action you could take results in another timeline. That's the general hypothesis. And so that means some timelines are very close to each other. Like today I woke up and I had two pieces of biltong instead
Starting point is 01:40:32 of one. And so the timelines are almost identical because nothing was changed, but they are separate. These people believe that if the timelines are close enough, you can jump between them by closing your eyes, shutting like sensory deprivation shutting everything down and then focusing on that timeline and then you wake up in the timeline however understand you cannot jump timelines too far so if you like got your leg you lost a leg in an accident that timeline split is so intense that you can't make the leap that's too far you could only jump like to right before you went to that place like no it just depends on if the timeline is close enough so the variations
Starting point is 01:41:11 in time can't be so different to where the leap is too far so typically they say it's things where it's like you accidentally did something you want to undo and there are people who legitimately are like this morning i blew a red light and got pulled over closed my eyes and boom i woke up i was driving instantly i was driving again stopped at the red light the cop was gone and it's like i swear i did it and it's like okay dude this is like organic neural link they can jump dimensions not what's really happening is people online are bored and they're lying about it to see if they can get a rise out of people right but there there is a theory i forgot the name of it where every they say every moment of your life is like a still frame and that it's infinite well dude yeah and it goes on forever like that to a varying degree
Starting point is 01:41:52 so you're kind of they believe that you could be immortal if you look at mandela died in 2013 he died in in prison didn't he who did no 2013 so you're saying he died after large hadron collider was turned on no all right let's All right, let's read some more. Let's read some more Super Jets. All right. Chafed BM says, first fact, Ilhan Omar married her brother. He says, deport her. I believe that based on the reporting from the Star Tribune, it is likely she did.
Starting point is 01:42:21 The Star Tribune, I can't believe it. You know, honestly, when the Star Tribune said she may have married her brother, and they did, I was actually surprised. That is racist. But such a storied publication can't be wrong, can they? It's a different culture. You couldn't understand. I read an article from Star Tribune that said,
Starting point is 01:42:38 new information has come to light suggesting that Ilhan Omar may have married her brother or something like that. And I read it and I went, whoa! Holy crap! This is like a major publication. This is not some fly-by-night fake news website. It's certified by NewsGuard. And then I think it was Media Matters or they're like Tim Pool claims. And I was like, I most certainly did not.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Excuse me? I was like, man, I can't even read the news. All right. here we go dj madero says i believe president joe biden will make this country what it once was an arctic wasteland covered in snow yeah jackson glass says hey tim do you guys put stuff uh in the coffee i bought some for my leftist aunt and she and for the first time in 20 years she agreed with my conservative grandpa we just put it love in it and that's how you win people over love and compassion but it depends on if you gave her the prime time sign two times caffeine because that has more caffeine drink responsibly all right steven says says correct me if i'm wrong but
Starting point is 01:43:40 there was no congressional authorization of military use. Correct. This is Joe Biden being like, we're going to blow him up. That's their game, man. Launch the missiles. X Tin Man says, draft lawyers and judges, adjudicate all of the asylum claims, get it done, get them out. Hannah Clare, you are British,
Starting point is 01:43:57 but you always have the nicest teeth. What's up with that? It's an illusion. It's AI. Just kidding. It's a filter. Yep. Actually, no teeth at all
Starting point is 01:44:06 don't tell the secret i'm not married yet you know i can't i can't let anyone know until i've trapped a man then the filter comes off what do we got brian jesus from a border patrol friend he said border patrol arrests all they come in contact with that crosses the border. ICE is in charge of all the transportation. And so you have on video CBP opening the gates at the bollard fence and counting them as they walk in. Okay, so that's them committing crimes. And you have videos of them taking them and bringing them into vans and transporting them to their NGO destinations. I get it. And ICE is responsible for the transportation inside the country. Totally agree. I apologize
Starting point is 01:44:49 to the CBP agents who I did not include your brothers in ICE who are working domestically to engage in human smuggling. But on the border, you work with the cartels, let them in, you're responsible. ICE, good point. They're responsible too. Can't leave
Starting point is 01:45:06 them out. Jordan Cogburn says it wouldn't surprise me at all if the feds teamed up with the cartels to police cities and fight against citizens. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the cartels were working for the government and they were just black operations.
Starting point is 01:45:22 Could be an extension of Operation Fast and Furious. Yeah, like why did we send them guns what if the real scandal is bring them back over exactly well what right like we wanted to give them guns so we could track them what if the real scandal is actually they work for the cia and they they provide cover for u.s operations in mexico yeah it's a yeah it's a whole thing to cover i mean what about the cia and and and crack epidemic and all that stuff? Who was that journalist who committed suicide by shooting himself twice in the head when he was uncovering the CIA drug scandal? I don't remember. I forget his name.
Starting point is 01:45:54 Someone want to Google it? The chat will get it, I'm sure. Yeah, he committed suicide by shooting himself twice in the head. Impressive. Classic. Typical way to go when it's suicide. And they were like, but look, depending on how you do it, you can survive a shot to the head. People think it was execution style or whatever, but it's still a crazy story.
Starting point is 01:46:10 What was that guy's name? The chat I know knows his name. Someone's going to say his name. Clank. No, that's not. That's a six hex name reference. Could be. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:46:23 I can't see the chat right now. I guess nobody's saying his name. I'll Google it. Now all of a sudden it name reference. Could be. I don't know. I can't see the chair right now. I guess nobody's saying his name. I'll Google it. Now it's going to... All of a sudden it's going to go boom. David Webb. Wait, Gary Webb. There you go.
Starting point is 01:46:32 Yeah, that was it, right? Gary Webb? Yep. There you go. All right. Thinker for Life says, Biden's importing voters to use the Voting Rights Law of 1993 to win. We must make flyers in Spanish and inform these illegals that all Dems stand for the communism that they flee and child sex changes.
Starting point is 01:46:51 They are not going to vote. They are going to bolster congressional districts to give themselves more electoral college votes. They don't need to vote. We are not a direct democracy. This is the thing a lot of conservatives make the mistake of. They're like, they're going to vote. We're not a direct democracy. This is the thing a lot of conservatives make the mistake of. They're like, they're going to vote. We're not a direct democracy. They don't need to vote.
Starting point is 01:47:08 They just need to use the census to say there's a million people. So we need another district and another electoral college vote. And that's even worse because now these people have no voice at all. Democrats are bringing in congressional districts where like half the population are second class citizens who can't vote. That makes sense why they made such a huge stink out of it when Trump tried to revise the census. Exactly. When he said citizenship on the thing, they're like, no, no, stop him, stop him. That's the craziest thing.
Starting point is 01:47:35 Tell me exactly what you're doing without using the words to say exactly what you're doing. And then that opens the door to we only count citizens towards the congressional apportionment. Doesn't that seem crazy that we would only count citizens? Pando says grandma's on her deathbed. Uncle trying to come to US via emergency visa but was denied. Can't believe it. They just let everyone through the border.
Starting point is 01:47:59 I had a friend from Ukraine who wanted to come to the United States and couldn't get a visa. And she was like, I know though that if I go mexico i can walk right in and they'll let me in yeah and i'm like it's a weird thing i don't know that's that's how they do it i guess yep yeah mega mikey says the democrats are trying desperately to invoke a violent right response why won't republican ags press criminal charges against biden you literally just answered your own question tim filing a criminal charge is not a violent response what are you what are you saying i don't understand what you're saying yeah it's literally
Starting point is 01:48:35 like biden you're hereby ordered to report to court tomorrow morning and then they're gonna be like you can't do it he's immune but okay great we agree case dismissed trump's you're immune yep it's over good move right let's go the sig p says the invasion is china's doing watch tucker's podcast there is no doubt in my mind that biden isn't actually treasonous and in bed with china i would agree yeah i think not that there's no doubt in my mind but i think it's a strong likelihood that he's in the pocket of China because of the deals that they were running in the past and they got dirt. Yeah. I've been calling him Joe by Jen for a long time now.
Starting point is 01:49:11 Joe by Jen. Joe Jin Ping. Yes, pretty much. Let's grab some more super jets. Eric Vegas says, pensions make you slaves. The system is perfect. They lock you in and they can take it away from you and people get scared they don't want to they don't want to speak out
Starting point is 01:49:29 and then they're willing to commit crimes can't risk it yeah the golden handcuffs yeah literally fat sean says make make i you mean make it the fiduciary responsibility of the corporations to assist in deportation make it a fifty thousand dollar fine to hire hire them and a five thousand dollar tax credit to turn them in that actually is a bad idea so i watched a documentary a long time ago about what are these a lot of these companies near the border would do advertise in mexico come work jobs available they would come in illegally there was like no bollard fencing at all get hired they come They come to this corporation and say, yeah, I'm from Mexico. I saw your flyer. They say, perfect.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Work and then we'll pay you a lot of money. And then as soon as the pay period ended, they'd call ICE. They'd be like, how much do I owe you? A thousand? Okay, ICE. I got an illegal immigrant here. And they'd come and take them and ship them back. And they wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:50:20 Yeah. Don't come to this country. We treat you terribly. Seriously. Evil stuff. yeah don't come to this country we treat you terribly seriously evil stuff and it was uh it was like republicans and coke brothers who wanted to bring in this this cheap labor next the slayer says yes people with handoff policies lead to a downfall from bad ideologies but keep in mind that if christians pushed harder we'd have no rock music dnd or video games
Starting point is 01:50:43 it's better to try new logically consistent things than stop when once damning data comes out. Yo, I don't understand. Look, being like it's a board game. Well, we don't like the board game. We should get rid of it. Then we fight. We go, okay, fine. We'll accept the board game.
Starting point is 01:50:58 It's very different from child sex changes. You know what I mean? Like, I will have an argument over someone as to why my board games allowed if and and accept their capitulation to allow my board game but we can all agree like the child sex change thing is going too far right way too you know what's crazy is we were uh we we're in the green room downstairs we'll put on music right before we're getting ready for the show and stuff and on auto rotation uh i write sins not tragedies came up panic of the disco they censored the word god and goddamn and that was like mid-2000s on youtube they would not
Starting point is 01:51:34 say goddamn they censored that weak dude and uh magic gathering has a card called unholy strength had a pentagram on it they removed it because of outrage they were like we don't want our kids seeing this they said okay so that the new version, the new set, got rid of it. So I think we actually have one over there. I think in the case we have an original Unholy Strength with the pentagram in it that was removed. It's not really worth that much, but it is a little bit more valuable.
Starting point is 01:51:57 But hey, there you go. Simpler times. Alright. Alan Shower says, Tim, as a Star Trek The Next Generation fan, you must know the outcome of the meta is moriarty interesting uh uh story arc in next generation they uh so the ai there's an ai that runs everything right you go computer do this and it does and so they have the holodeck where they could go in and say computer run program simulation and they tell
Starting point is 01:52:22 what to do and then it'll make whatever they want and so they're trying to do like a sherlock holmes and so data is is in there as sherlock or whatever and so they ask the computer to make a villain that would be difficult for data to solve but data being like a super intelligent ai that the ai creates a sentient being in the holodeck who takes the ship over by taking like and it's moriarty the villain and he's like i'm alive as soon as as soon as as soon as they run the program moriarty in the program realizes the program realizes it's a program moriarty the character in the program and then confronts like i think it's picard and he's like what am i and what are you tell me the truth and they explain and instantly he's like I don't want to be a villain.
Starting point is 01:53:06 This is not who I am. I want to know what life is and I want to live. And they're like, whoa. Wow. And then in Voyager. So the problem was he can't leave the holodeck because it's just light projections and he's a program. But then in Voyager, they created portable holographic projectors. So the doctor is a hologram.
Starting point is 01:53:23 And he's in a room. He can't leave that room or he can't leave areas without holographic projectors but then eventually they create mobile projectors he can wear which create a physical form made of light from a small device i think that was the end of voyager sci-fi is fun you just make stuff up you remember when they uh did a hologram wolf blitzer was it wolf blitzer yeah was it wolf blitzer or maybe wolf blitzer was in the room and they hologram someone else in the room it's a great moment and silly yeah silly justin lied says why haven't you talked about the gavin newsom story the governor of the largest state in america admitted to going full karen on a target employee i mean it was interesting but i just don't think it right it like we we load up all these stories. But then if we don't get to, we don't get to it.
Starting point is 01:54:06 So if a story is not big, but basically he was like, they were blaming me for the shoplifting. And he's like, we've got the 10th toughest law in the country. Nine hundred and fifty dollars. He's like, he's like. And then he said he watched someone just steal stuff. And he's like, why am I paying for this? So they can just walk out. I don't think you understand.
Starting point is 01:54:23 This dude is so detached from reality it's amazing attached from a reality buddy at the same time the way he speaks he's trying to be authentic and and it kind of rings it kind of makes him look like a psychopath mm-hmm perhaps he is I stood next to him he's a psychopath villainous V says landfill at the border you say sounds like there's climate change there and the climate activists need to clean up the mess to stop the climate change that's how we show them what's wrong believe the amount of trash along that wall people throwing their ids from china or any other country i think trump had it wrong though
Starting point is 01:54:58 when he said he wanted to build a big beautiful wall 30 foot 30 feet tall from sea to shining sea it's a 30 foot trench you got to build a 30 foot trench okay and fill it with alligators there's water yeah so it's a moat i don't know about alligators just there you go water for fun for fun though the wall it is beautiful it looks like a piece of modern art when you see it. What is a humane deterrent we could put at the border that is not alligators in a moat? Maybe spoiled milk. You know, like nobody gets hurt, but boy, you'd not want to be down there.
Starting point is 01:55:37 There's like a rancher and he's like, this is hell. Yeah, it's too bad. Cause like, at least in Arizona where I was, it's all lettuce farms right there on the wall. That would be terrible. What about a 30-foot trench full of rats? Snakes. What I was saying is that they should turn the border wall into a 24-7 reality show like Ninja Warrior.
Starting point is 01:56:02 Because at least then it would be entertaining. We could film it. We could make money off it. They have the best times. Yeah. What if Mexico was doing that, though? This is like another country. It's like, we already filmed this.
Starting point is 01:56:13 It's hilarious. Okay, here's what we do. There's two ports of entry next to each other. One is that you walk up and apply with a piece of paper, and the other is a Ninja Warrior course that if you get passed, you're in, baby. You made it. No.
Starting point is 01:56:24 That's not enough of a reason to let people into this country it is amusing though hey but this is that's like the best and the brightest
Starting point is 01:56:30 like that's a good reason it's the brightest what are you talking about that's a skill test right you have to have a that's how we know we can put them
Starting point is 01:56:37 in the military yeah right I feel like you guys don't understand culture or loyalty here watching them like do the salmon ladder where it's like you pull a bar.
Starting point is 01:56:46 Look, I love skill. American Ninja Warrior is great, but I will emphasize American Ninja Warrior. I think it's important that we have culture and loyalty and patriotism. And I think if you're trying to scale the wall to break into this country illegally, you're missing out on the values I appreciate.
Starting point is 01:57:02 Who wants to be an American Ninja Warrior? Who wants to be? Hold on. There you go. That's good enough. I got an idea. It's the right title. Who wants to be an American Ninja Warrior?
Starting point is 01:57:11 It's a combination of who wants to be a millionaire and an American Ninja Warrior where after every obstacle, you have to answer a question about the United States. Whoa. Hannah Clare, think of the ratings. And then you have to agree that you will never take part in chain migration. There has to be a little bit more here. No, we just make that not legal. Yeah, it's not legal. Sure, I'd you have to agree that you will never take part in chain migration like there has to be a little bit more no we just make
Starting point is 01:57:27 that not legal yeah it's me sure i'd be happy to do that but until then okay can we produce this is this a
Starting point is 01:57:32 tin can who wants to be an american major warrior this is great ernie your citizenship in 20 minutes by running
Starting point is 01:57:41 this course and answering all of the questions with increasing difficulty and then or how about you have to answer the question while doing the course yeah yeah so you're like on the salmon ladder and you're like the third president with john adams was it no it's thomas jemison right oh you gotta go back second i don't know man i'm bad at my presidents uh all right here we go fringe patriot gaming says hey tim this question may be pointless
Starting point is 01:58:04 if we actually head into World War III, but are you interested in sponsoring other people with Cast Brew? If so, what's the best way to contact your team? We are. But so far, I think we only have one person we're sponsoring just now.
Starting point is 01:58:19 I don't know if we can say it just yet. I think it's probably obvious who it is. It's me. Don't even worry about it, guys. But once we get all that sorted, maybe. For it's me don't even worry about it guys but uh once we get all that sorted maybe for now i don't know what we're doing it's it's also too it's also like if we sponsor somebody we have to make more money than we give them in sponsorships so if we're like sponsoring someone it's costing us x amount of dollars but we're making x minus one
Starting point is 01:58:41 dollar then you know with like a slight loss, it might still be worth it just for building brand by having, you know, sponsorships. But ultimately, you have to sell more than you're spending. Otherwise, you just shut down, you know. All right. Joseph Velvet says,
Starting point is 01:58:58 Tim, do you remember the civil response to the Bundy ranch situation? Yes, I do. He says, Texas feels like that again i remember that we had emin bunny on the show and boy are they trying to destroy that guy's life that's crazy all right frontline texan says hey tim considering you mentioned we used to be a christian country would you consider getting doug wilson on the show sometime i don't know he is but no idea maybe never heard of that yeah maybe uh just build culture war is usually better for long cultural
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