Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #962 DA Prosecuting Trump Fani Willis May Have Admitted To FELONY On Stand w/Rep Massie

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

Tim, Ian, Phil, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Rep. Thomas Massie to discuss Fani Willis' testimony during corruption case, Fani possibly admitting to felonies during testimony, the Biden DOJ arresting t...he whistleblower exposing Joe & Hunter Biden crimes, and Rep. Massie explaining how congress is failing Americans. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:16 implying she used that cash to reimburse her then boyfriend for luxurious gifts. OK, I'm sorry, not really gifts because she paid him back in cash with no receipts. This whole thing's wild. And, you know, we're gonna have to break this one down because there are some people saying it was actually her money she loaned to the campaign in the first place. And when the campaign ended,
Starting point is 00:01:37 she only paid back a small portion of it, but it was a large sum of cash she kept in cash. So it's not necessarily like campaign donations or anything like that, but we have to break this one down and then go through the ridiculous claims. The gist of the story goes like this. She's dating this guy that she appoints to be the lead prosecutor going against Donald Trump and everybody else. He paid for lavish vacations. She claimed in filings she never
Starting point is 00:02:01 received a gift from a prohibited person for which her boyfriend would have been. And then to sort of clear it all up, they both said, oh, it's not a gift because she paid him back in cash. And there are no receipts or statements or withdrawal forms or anything like that, because it was just that she happens to keep nine thousand dollars typically in cash lying around. And she likes to travel around the world with large sums of money. It was so shocking that apparently someone burst out laughing in the courtroom and the judge told him to stop. So we're going to talk about that. Plus, you know, we're trying to figure out maybe this is the bigger story, but the Biden
Starting point is 00:02:35 DOJ has just criminally charged a witness against the Joe Biden family. So take that for what you will. Okay. Yeah, we're gonna talk about that. Before we get started, my friends, head over to eyes of advice.com and you'll need to have iTunes already installed. Otherwise it'll bring you to the Apple music page. But if you want to pre-order the song to support our work, which is coming out February 23rd,
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Starting point is 00:03:55 So definitely do that. Also, don't forget to smash the like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to discuss this and a whole lot more is Rep. Thomas Massey. How are you doing, Tim? I'm doing doing great how are you um a little bit depressed rough week in congress i was going to be here tomorrow night but they called off the the congress this week because we were supposed to reform the foreign intelligence surveillance act so that the government would have to get a warrant to spy on you but some folks blew all that up this week they didn't want to have the vote because
Starting point is 00:04:30 they sensed that congress was going to be constitutional this week so they just terminated well you you said it was a you know a rough week and a rough week and i was thinking i i'd imagine every time you go there it's rough i couldn't couldn't imagine it. It's like, you know, walking in the door, knowing somebody is going to swing a two by four and hit you in the forehead. And you could get excited about that for a couple of weeks. But after 10 years of getting hit with the two by four, it's a little bit tiresome. We definitely got to talk about what's going on in Congress. There's too much to say right now in the intro.
Starting point is 00:05:03 So thank you for hanging out. And we'll get to all that. We got Hannah Clare Brimelow hanging out. Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. That's Scanner News. I'm really happy to be here with everyone tonight. Phil's here, too. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I am the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-resolutionary. Counter-resolutionary? I stumbled a little. I like how you said that. I'm a little nervous because my hero Thomas Massey is here. He's the most based member of Congress.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I don't care what Grok says. Absolutely. I'm going to take this opportunity to crack my drink. We asked Grok, and it was a toss-up between, we asked who was the most based member of Congress, and it said Thomas Massey, Anna Paulina Luna, or Matt Gaetz. And then, you know, we were like, no, no, no, don't give us the list. Tell us who is the person and unfortunately it's at anna paulina luna you know what i like is when i ask it it says it's me
Starting point is 00:05:50 so it's clearly trying to flatter me messed up or influence congress yeah yeah we gotta let's talk you know what it's doing it's telling you that you're doing a good job to keep it up that's exactly what's gonna happen is there's to be a bill introduced to ban Grok and Tom's going to be like, no, no, we must keep it. We also have Bucko in the house. I don't know if he's
Starting point is 00:06:10 in the shot at the moment. He's chilling over here. He's sulking at me because I wouldn't let him climb to the congressman's lap. He wants to sit with our guests. Now he's zenning out. All right, dude,
Starting point is 00:06:18 go for it. Yeah, he's there. I'm here too, guys. As usual, I'm ready for the show when you are. Here we go. This is the crazy story.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I don't know about you guys, but I was glued to this testimony all day watching. It was very entertaining. So this is Fannie Willis. She's the DA in Georgia. She's the one who brought these charges against Donald Trump and basically everybody else. Now it's being, it's found that basically it it is believed she lied on government forms about a relationship a relationship she was having funds she was receiving she's she's basically funneling money to her boyfriend it is a major scandal and even msnbc has this
Starting point is 00:06:57 viral clip where they're saying she's probably going to get disqualified i think it's worse than that many people are saying that she appears to have admitted to many different felonies trying to stumble over and cover up the potential crimes she has uh she's being accused of now the wild thing about this case i don't know did you guys watch it i watched about 10 minutes of it or 15 minutes of it testimony i was i i was watching the testimony and then i also watched some fox news and um i forgot the host's name, but she's a former, I think she's a judge. Fannie Willis is yelling at the lawyers. She's refusing to answer questions. Man, you needed a bowl of popcorn, all right?
Starting point is 00:07:35 Because this is how the trial would go. They would ask something like, did Mr. Wade ever spend the night with you? Spend? Like, what does it mean to spend? Did he ever stay with you? Stay? Well, I don't know if I'd call it staying. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And then it finally got to the point where the lawyer's like, did he ever visit the place where you lay your head? And I'm like, where's the judge to be like, stop, what are you doing? Did you ever have a conversation with him? And she's like, I didn't judge to be like, stop. What are you doing? Did you ever have a conversation with him? And she's like, I didn't have a substantive conversation with him. It depends on what the meaning of the word is, is. And Thomas Massey knows exactly what I'm talking about. This is 100% the playbook that Bill Clinton was using when he was being, when the investigation for Monica Lewinsky was going on. No, my favorite part of all of this was when they're asking her, they asked both of them to like define the timeline of the relationship.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And both of them are like, vaguely, we started dating at this time, we can say. But he says the relationship ends like in June and she says it ends in August. And she's like, well, he's a man. He would say that. We had the toughest conversation. August, like right after this, she's going to start a relationship podcast and lead us all into a stray. She's like, he's a man, so I'm going to stop getting physical. He said it was over.
Starting point is 00:08:48 But for me, it's a bit different. Yeah. So basically what this means is, let me pull this up to give everybody the context as we get into this. This is the Georgia election racketeering prosecution, the state of Georgia v. Donald J. Trump et al., pending criminal case. I have to imagine that following this testimony and this scandal, you are going to have every defendant, well, at least the ones who didn't plead guilty and then go crying on TV after funneling away hundreds of thousands of dollars. They're going to be filing challenges saying like, this is malicious prosecution. It's, it's, it's got to be thrown out. This is, this is an absolutely wild case to hear hear if she does not get removed and criminally charged
Starting point is 00:09:28 i would not be surprised but even if she gets removed it's like we'll be lucky to see any any actual accountability in terms of any of this what if she gets removed what happens with the case that she had been uh i think they'd have to remove both her and the and the lead prosecutor do they need to just call the case like a mistrial and start over or or do they just swap someone in i don't know i'm gonna have to ask a lawyer i don't think they can swap anyone in right i mean she's the one who brought the charges i am not a lawyer i am not from georgia i don't know how any of this works but to a certain extent you know the the trial is ongoing i think the closest thing to do is get a mistrial.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I don't know if that exempts him. But it's not going to it's not going to exonerate him from this charge, unfortunately. And they'll sell it as, well, crazy MAGA whoever went after poor Fannie Willis, who's just trying to live life and have an undefined relationship with this man while she collects money from her campaign. Like, ultimately, it's not going to be the same thing as clearing Trump's name. It's just going to be character assassination. Let me play this clip for you. This video is going insanely viral. Everybody's reposting it.
Starting point is 00:10:32 This is MSNBC that you're hearing. It's so legalistic-centric and yet so important and fascinating. Right. Don't let the legalese fool you. This is epic. This is monumental. If things are going in the direction we think Fannie Willis lied to the court, it's game over for her. She will be disqualified if they had a relationship prior to when they represented to the court. It's a huge deal. I can't overstate it.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And do you feel the same way, Charles, based on the testimony of what we just heard? And we just learned Nathan Wade, who is the special prosecutor. All right. So that was right before he was about to testify. So let me let me slow down. There's so much to go through here. And let me just state this way. I don't know. We have this article. We can see what what The New York Times says will happen next. So basically, she may have chosen her boyfriend to run this case, giving him a bunch of money. Watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino. The excitement doesn't stop there. With over 3,000 games to choose from, including fan favorites like Cash Eruption, UFC Gold Blitz, and more. Make deposits instantly to jump in on the fun and make same-day withdrawals if you win.
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Starting point is 00:12:34 she filled out a form saying she did not receive any gifts from prohibited persons. And that would be anything valued $100 or more from a variety of individuals, but personal relationships, you know, sexual romantic relationships are included in that. And she said, no. When asked, she said, well, it's because those lavish vacations that are on record on credit cards with credit card statements and all the information proving it, we paid that all back. I paid that all back in cash that I just happened to have lying around. And then hilarity ensues as there's numerous questions about how do you have this cash lying around? You're going to Belize with thousands of dollars and nobody believes it. It is the perfect. It is their only excuse.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Otherwise, she's basically caught having committed serious crimes. So now we have this trial. And I guess the question will be, is the is the is the judge going to be honest and hold her to account? I think it's worrisome that she was acting up to an insane degree on the stand, insulting the lawyers, saying like refusing to answer questions. When that when when she was asked whether or not Nathan Wade had ever stayed at her residence, she goes, my residence? No. And like any place you live, any place I live, I only lived one place. You owned multiple properties, but I only lived in one of them. Did he ever stay at any property you own that I own? Stay? What do you mean? I don't understand the question. And that was, that was for like a half an hour straight. it reminds me of when you read about people who are like true they are their narcissistic
Starting point is 00:14:08 personality disorder like she's thinking she can outsmart any lawyer there by just kind of weaseling her way out of the world it words it just also reminds me of when bob mendez got charged with with his uh most recent scandal and they asked him why you have all this cash on hand he's like well as the child of immigrants you know this is just something we do because things don't always feel secure like there was always a spin that you're sort of not supposed to question and that's kind of what i'm waiting for now like for her to be like well the reason this relationship and the way active was okay is because insert insane reason here the new york times says that if she is disqualified the case would be reassigned to another Georgia prosecutor
Starting point is 00:14:45 who would then have the ability to continue the case exactly as is or make major changes, such as adding or dropping charges or defendants, or to even drop the case altogether. The decision to drop the case would end the prosecution of Mr. Trump and his allies for their actions in Georgia after the 2020 election, when the former president sought to overturn his loss in the state. It would be up to a state entity called the prosecuting attorney's council of georgia to find someone else to take up the case more specifically the decision would fall to the council's executive director pete scandalakis what a name his last name is scandal scandal scandalakis or we can call it scandalicus don't judge a man by his name no and experience is way better scandalakis in an interview on
Starting point is 00:15:24 wednesday he said that he could ask a prosecutor to take on Trump's case voluntarily, but he could also appoint a prosecutor to do the job, whether that prosecutor wanted to or not. This is crazy. That's the current state of politics in this country. These people are corrupt. I think, you know, I'll put it simply. They're as corrupt as you imagine they could be. And they, I feel like they're going to get away with it.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I don't think Fonny, it's Fonny, I think. Yeah, even if she gets disqualified, so what? Yeah, but if she took gifts, that's a big deal. And if she paid him back with money, cash that she'd received from previous campaigns. I think she actually said that on the stand that she had cash left over from like old campaign donations, which is also illegal. And that no one really put pressure on it when she said it, but she said it. Well, she didn't say that. What did she say? She took cash out from her bank.
Starting point is 00:16:19 We'll get to that in a bit. I mean, because that's a whole thing that has to be broken down because everyone's accusing her of having committed a felony do you think there's going to be another prosecutor that wants to be assigned to this case i mean if it comes to that is there someone or are they going to be like no i've got skeletons in my closet like i don't want any spot media this case is such a a lightning rod for media attention people people in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks right and um looks like she was in a glass house we don't know which residence that was and whether wade stayed there or not but defined state and wade it's definitely glass and it's breaking i mean most of the trump's also going to uh his uh his
Starting point is 00:16:58 effort to stop the uh hush money payment trial in new york is advancing i, I have no idea what we can expect to happen in November. It's fine. It keeps the plot line alive. Yeah, I guess. I suppose maybe we're crafting it as we go. Sure thing, I suppose. But let's jump to this. So this is the story that's a more inner component of this.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Did Fannie Willis admit to committing a felony on the stand or a series of them? In this clip that's going viral, several people are reposting it. When asked how she had the cash to pay back her boyfriend for these lavish trips, she said that, you know, when you go to the grocery store, you have 50 bucks lying around, you keep the cash. My dad always told me to keep money. And I didn't. You know, if he found out how little money I'd have, he be mad at me actually she says she has around nine thousand dollars lying around at any given moment and she said that what happened was when she took out large amounts of money from her first campaign she kept that she then quickly moves on now many people are pointing out that is
Starting point is 00:18:01 a very serious crime because not only is she saying she took out money from her campaign to keep for cash, she then used that to pay her boyfriend who was buying her lavish vacations and she was paying it back, which sounds like very serious criminal territory. But there are some nuance. Let me play the clip for you and you can hear from her what she said. But I always have cash at the house. That has been, I don't know, all my life. If you're a woman and you go on a date with a man, you better have $200 in your pocket. So if that man acts up, you can go where you want to go. So I keep cash in my house.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And I don't keep cash as good in my purse like I used to because I don't go on many dates. But when you go on a date, you should have cash in your pocket. So my question was, where did that cash originally come from? I just like to point out, she was asked, where did the cash come from? And then she went on this diatribe about going out with guys and having to have cash because they could act a fool or whatever. She was accused several times of filibustering, that she's trying to pat her her way through not answering these questions and uh so here's she also says that i mean my dad also gave me the advice like when you go out with a guy bring cash make sure you have a way to like pay or leave or do whatever but
Starting point is 00:19:14 that doesn't account for i left it at my house and it's nine thousand dollars like this dating podcast is whack there's there's there's no record of any of the money there's no receipts or withdrawal statements it's just there but here's here's what she goes on to say hey of any of the money There's no receipts or withdrawal statements It's just there, but here's what she goes on to say Cash is Fungible I've had cash for years in my house So for me to tell you the source of where it comes from When you go to Publix and you buy something
Starting point is 00:19:36 You get $50, you throw it in there It's been my whole life When I took out a large amount of money On my first campaign, I kept some of the cash Of that, like, to tell you I just have cash in my house. I don't have as much today as I would normally have, but I'm building back up now. So you just put money in. It's a very good practice. I would advise it to all women. So you can't identify when you came into this cash or where the cash came from? I didn't say I
Starting point is 00:20:03 couldn't identify it. Nobody gives me anything. I am sure that the source of the money is always the work, sweat, and tears of me. What you asked me for is when did the money go in there? What I am trying to tell you is, so I got divorced in 2005 from my husband. No, no, no. It's important to say where the money comes from, and I need to tell you where the money This is like very much out of the Vladimir Putin. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah. The history of Russia. I'm enjoying this. Honestly, this is this is really good TV. It's like Putin slash man hating feminism. She's like, well, I got divorced and men have wronged me. So stop asking me where the cash is. If you're a lawyer and the witness and you you're talking and the witness stops you and goes, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Don't you just turn to the judge and request to treat them as hostile yes and they did not do that well this this is the part too where she said i i took a lot of money out for the campaign and kept it and kept it now the question is what did she mean the most charitable interpretation of that is she went to the bank she took a lot of money out and she put some of it in her campaign and some of it in her pocket but why would you take it all out in cash if you're going to give it to your campaign that's not how you don't give your campaign cash let me play that again we can hear exactly what you said i to tell you i just have cash in my house i don't have as much today as i would normally have where did you say it was back here when you go to public and you buy something you get fifty dollars you throw it in there
Starting point is 00:21:31 when it's been my whole life when i took out a large amount of money on my first campaign i kept some of the cash of that like right there i took out a large amount of money on my first campaign she said so what does that mean on her first campaign? So this is this is an important distinction. Stephen Fowler of NPR says Willis sells says elsewhere in the hearing. When I ran for judge, I took $50,000 of my personal money out of my retirement and that money ended up being lost. to her records he says in her failed judicial run she loaned herself forty nine thousand dollars and only paid back eight thousand five hundred before terminating that campaign running out of money she then ran for da a few years later however i will i will add um it's not surprising that
Starting point is 00:22:16 we're immediately going to get some kind of justification for what she did how she didn't how it makes sense i don't think that actually changes the fact that we don't know the full context of what she did when she said she did it. Stephen Fowler is presenting a plausible reason that could make sense. And in his charitable interpretation, she took out $50,000 in cash from her bank, kept a large portion of it, and then put the rest into her campaign. But you're saying it's not normal for people to put cash into a campaign? You do it with a check or something? No, you would do it with a wire transfer.
Starting point is 00:22:47 But maybe, I'm trying to be super charitable here. Maybe she means I put $49,000 or $50,000 in there, and then when I paid myself back, I just cashed those checks. Maybe that's what she means when she got the $7,000 or $8,000. And perhaps, I think either way, considering everything else she means when she got the seven or eight thousand and and and perhaps uh i think either way considering everything else she said she should be investigated i also don't believe her at all like the idea that she says well my campaign's over what's the smartest thing i can do i would like ten thousand dollars in cash please look she's here you go i'm divorced recently she's got to keep cash on hand this is a completely ridiculous argument to me i don't know how much stock you're gonna put in it but the fact that she's gotten divorced recently. She's got to keep cash on hand. This is a completely ridiculous argument to me. I don't know how much stock you want to put in it,
Starting point is 00:23:27 but the fact that she's leaning away and touching her face is typically considered deceptive body language. So there's obviously something weird in the fact that she won't just say, yes, I cashed that one check and that's why I have this here. Trying to make it so she can later say, oh, well, I went to Publix a lot, so that's how I built up $9,000. It doesn't make sense. And I think because she can't remember where it came from, because it's a lie, she's got
Starting point is 00:23:48 to keep it open-ended. 200 trips? Of her whole life. And she doesn't go on dates anymore. She goes every workday to Publix, and she comes back with $50 in cash. She goes to the salad bar, comes back with $50. Very reasonable. I think if she paid $100 bills and takes the change and puts it in her piggy bank.
Starting point is 00:24:03 If she paid her boyfriend back with cash and there's no receipt, then legally she didn't pay him back. Like just them saying that that happened isn't a legal justification. Like there's if there's no receipt, then it didn't happen. Yeah. I mean, I wonder, look in the criminal element of this, she received a gift and then lied on a on an election form. So there's a series of crimes that were like, were laws that were likely violated in that case. We can prove for a fact based on credit card statements. They went on these vacations. The tickets were purchased for her. There is no evidence. She actually paid any of it back. How would that work in a, in a, in a criminal case?
Starting point is 00:24:41 It is interesting because you do have there there is potential reasonable doubt you do have the ability to have cash and pay someone back with it that being said if i was on a jury stand or you know at a trial and someone said i did not receive a gift from the gentleman i paid him back in cash i would say nice try dude that's like three thousand dollars in cash you'd have to pay back i don't buy it this is reminiscent of some of the biden claims that these were just loans you know when they see the transfer and they say oh i was paying back a loan yep and but there's no evidence of the loan because the loan presumably how much was it in that case there was that car couple what was it the car loan or something i want to say two hundred thousand dollars but i don't know exactly
Starting point is 00:25:24 that's i think that's what it was roughly i don't know the situation what's the biden loan situation well they said why did you give him two hundred thousand dollars or whatever like 164 or something and so hunter had loaned the money to joe was the story and joe was paying the money back to hunter is that if i am correctly? I think this one was less than that. I think that was the story. Why would Joe Biden need a loan? Isn't he super rich? I'm not saying whether that really happened or not.
Starting point is 00:25:54 I'm just saying this is where they go. They say, oh, it was a loan, and we were paying back a loan, and part of this deal was in cash. And so you can't track the ledger. Right. Half of it's not in cash half of it we have a receipt for and half of it can you criminally convict someone for not having a receipt you know i mean that's that's the challenge so it seems extremely likely that
Starting point is 00:26:14 fannie will has lied over and over and over again but this is why perjury charges almost never never uh happen it's it i gotta tell you like she knows what she's doing okay someone says to me like did you ever order uh papa john's to your house no let's say but i have a receipt here for 10 papa john's pizzas actually we ordered a ton on fat tuesday because it's fat tuesday we had to order pizza and uh i wanted to order pancakes but we were too late so we got pizzas instead but they're gonna be like i see here that several pizzas were delivered to an address. Is this not your address? I'm like, oh, that is my address.
Starting point is 00:26:48 It's not my house, though. Is it a house? It is. Do you live there? I do not. So it is not your house? Well, it's an office. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:28:13 It's like I'm sitting here thinking these lawyers don't know how to ask these questions. Eventually, one good lawyer got up and seemed to know how to ask her questions. And then the judge stopped him. Yeah, because if you ask her, did he ever stay at your house? And she says no. Then you say, okay, he never stayed at your residence. And then you just clarify he never did it. And then you move on. And if it's found out later that he did, she's the liar. She perjured herself.
Starting point is 00:28:37 No, she didn't. Rather than be like, are you sure you're telling me the truth? Are you sure you want to rephrase it? Don't give her a chance to rephrase it. It's not about rephrasing. It's that you can't bring perjury charges because they'll say when asked if he stayed at her residence she said no and she'll be like well yeah i mean he came over for a few hours one time but i wouldn't call it staying there but it is when someone
Starting point is 00:28:55 stays there it's like for a week or two no it's an interpretation it's an opinion on a statement when when you say my friend's coming to stay with me you might mean for a month or two or three i don't think this is actually something a thing that happens in law frequently and it's it's something that they have historically covered with a reasonable person would say and that's really nowadays that is becoming harder and harder to kind of narrow down what a reasonable person to say but would say but that is something that if you look at laws there are laws all over the place where reasonable people is the standard and nowadays no one's freaking reasonable you know what i would do if i was a lawyer in this case guys right you want right you're right you want you want to know my first question would be
Starting point is 00:29:38 i would say uh dia willis thank you for your time uh my first question is is nathan wade a man she can't say why would you assume someone's gender that's it and be like what's the purpose ron lang foundation for questions about a relationship is he a man how would you define man you need to get an expert which is ridiculous just i don't care what it is anytime i get an opportunity to have some leftist on a trial under oath i'm going to ask them that question are you a man or a woman okay how would you define how do you are you sure how do you know i mean exactly and this is something that we were you know talking about earlier it's a frustrating thing because the the means we have to manage the government as the population the government is currently shrinking to the best of their ability and we're
Starting point is 00:30:26 forced to accept things like a standard that we have managed to use reliably for 250 years now we can no longer use which is again the reasonability standard and it's because of things that are actually unreasonable we have a supreme court justice that doesn't know will not answer what a man or a woman is that will refuse us and we we allowed that to stand that's the problem we we should have someone should have stood up in congress or in the senate and said no we're not gonna let this happen you cannot be on the court if you will not be if you refuse to judge what a woman or a man is and no one stood up and did it and they did it because they were afraid they'd be called names i want to jump to
Starting point is 00:31:09 this story which is uh about the deep-seated corruption in our government biden doj arrests former fbi informant who said biden took bribes from ukrainian energy company from the post millennial i can simplify this for you the biden department of justice has arrested a witness against joe biden i mean what do you do who's the name of this guy so this is funny it's funny this is um former fbi informant alexander smirnoff 43 arrested thursday you know what's funny about this and you know why i don't believe it for two seconds so this guy's a whistleblower accusing the Bidens of taking bribes. CNN has already called it, what do they call it, the now debunked?
Starting point is 00:31:51 Or what did they say? Let me, they say, Special Counsel David Weiss charged the former FBI informant with lying about President Joe Biden. This on Hunter Biden's involvement in business dealings with the Ukraine Energy Company. Smirnov is facing charges of connection with lying, blah, blah, blah. Here we go. Congressional Republicans have champion smirnoff's now discredited allegations cnn is reporting it because of an indictment that proves the whistleblower is a liar and his claims have been discredited there's been no trial there's been no adjudication quite literally all that has happened is biden's doj has arrested the
Starting point is 00:32:25 man accusing biden of committing a crime and cnn goes oh well that proves it who did who did they arrest for the russian hoax no one kevin clinesmith kevin clinesmith kevin clinesmith yeah the fbi lawyer who fabricated the email to get a false he didn't get arrested he got a slap on the wrist we got arrested yeah and he got criminally charged and he got probation he didn't get arrested he got a slap on the wrist we got arrested yeah and he got criminally charged and he got probation he didn't go to prison yeah that's the difference and but he did something different than in this case he lied to a judge he lied to a court he falsified a document correct oh yeah he should be in prison. So, but my question is, like, you know, you had these characters like Joseph Misford, who just disappears into the ether, who was feeding this information to the FBI and to the U.S. government that turned out to be a hoax. Where the guy that compiled the dossier, did he ever go to jail?
Starting point is 00:33:19 The Steele? Yeah. He's British. Christopher Steele? Is Smirnoff? That's true. Fair point.le? Is Smirnoff? That's true. Fair point. I assume he's not American.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Yeah, he's not American either. Julian Assange is in jail. He's not American. Well, it seems to me that there is a criminal conspiracy currently underway within the United States government. The reporting from Michael Schellenberger and Alex Gutentag and Matt Taibbi has been rather revealing. Have you seen that stuff? I haven't seen what came out today. So the story, it was a story from yesterday.
Starting point is 00:33:49 So I think today one did come out. This is the final chapter in the story. But there's allegedly this binder. Oh, yeah, I've seen this. That has information pertaining to the start of the Russiagate hoax and the crossfire hurricane, basically the conspiracy to overthrow the United States government, as I would describe it. And the question is is who has it some argue that donald trump took it or someone in his administration took it and that's why they're they raided his home they're desperately trying to find it because it's evidence however one source told michael schellenberger in fact they have it hidden
Starting point is 00:34:18 themselves because they don't want it to get out so if anyone requests it there's a foyer or anything they're like we don't have it why wouldn't they just burn it i don't want it to get out. So if anyone requests it, there's a FOIA or anything, they're like, we don't have it. Why wouldn't they just burn it? I don't know. The memories. You know what? Get rid of the key safe. All the pictures. I mean, why did they write an article called the shadow campaign to save the 2020 election?
Starting point is 00:34:34 That's another one I didn't believe. They always return to the scene of the crime. And I'll mention this too, because we're kind of all over the place right now. But if you think 2020 was a shadow campaign, you better damn well believe there's a shadow campaign going on right now to save the 2024 election. What I think is happening, this is my bird's eye view hypothesis, is that we're transitioning from our liberal economic order, our 80-year-old order, to this new world order. And that there's people trying to facilitate that. And they're willing to commit crimes in order to make that happen.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And at the same time, cover up the crimes that they've been committing to make this happen, like committing new crimes. No, I kind of agree with you, but I think you're wrong. I think we're transitioning from a liberal economic order into a communist utopia. That unfortunately may be the new world order if we don't do it right. This would be the first time it's ever been tried. In fact, you know, that's where we're currently at. You know, utopia is supposed to be spelled E-U. That means good place. utopia with an e the the letter u that's just thomas uh whoever wrote the
Starting point is 00:35:29 book and thomas moore yeah thomas moore wrote that and it's actually a very dystopian place in his book yes the eu is also a dystopian place utopia utopia it does feel like the u.s government's been hijacked by global banking industries and they're just selling us out and moving us towards this new corporate governance i well i don't know you you work with these people what do you think we're transitioning but i like i mean the the whole term disinformation for instance you have to control the information to to set up this new alternate reality this utopia and we know they're doing it like you know on the weaponization committee i've sat there i've looked at the documents the the communications from the white house to the social media companies
Starting point is 00:36:11 where they're trying to control all of this and all of the elements of a dystopian future are there well how come the republicans are so bad at everything which part do you want to get into uh maybe different reasons. What's making you most depressed right now? Yeah, there you go. That's a good place to start. Let's talk about you being depressed. Welcome to Grimcast.
Starting point is 00:36:31 You're wearing a national debt tracker. Yes, I built this. By the way, it's an anxiety generator. Do you feel like you have a bomb strapped to your chest? Yes. Now, hold on, hold on. That's actually tracking the national debt, right? Correct.
Starting point is 00:36:47 So does that mean the rate of growth will increase or decrease based on spending in Congress? Yes. Wow. In fact, some people vote. By the way, I'm wearing this on my lapel. And I wear it every day, every moment I'm in Congress. And now I've got members of Congress. It's a great resolution.
Starting point is 00:37:02 They're voting and then turning and looking at my debt clock to see if their vote changed that's the best then i had one congresswoman who couldn't stop staring at it and i had to tell her my eyes were up here women are out of control but she's always trying to stare at a man's national debt no she told me to make a belt buckle out of it oh that's a great idea yeah that's a good. You could have a whole line of like Ray-Bans where it's just like along the top of the sunglasses. Yeah. Well, let me just finish this. So I built this debt clock. Like I built it a year ago.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I wrote the code. There's about 1,500 lines of code. It goes to Treasury once a day, gets the actual debt to the penny because that's as frequently as they publish it. And then it tells you at any given moment what the closest estimation of the debt is right now. And Tim, I brought you one. Oh, awesome. Oh, yeah. Right on.
Starting point is 00:37:52 It's called a debt badge. Can people buy those? To your beanie. Do they buy those from like your website or anything? Now, I refuse to monetize the debt, so I'm not selling it. But somebody I know is. That's the best.
Starting point is 00:38:05 They took my design and improved it a little bit. This is the new and improved 3D printed case. It's nylon impact resistant. Oh, nice. But it's a debt badge. Go to debtbadge.com and you can get one of these and depress yourself and never get invited back to a party. I do enjoy going to usdebtclock.org from time to time and just watching it spin up. And you know what? It's inaccurate.
Starting point is 00:38:28 The debtclock.org. Oh, by how much and in what way? Like $50 billion at any given time. Some guy got one of my debt clocks and he called up and he says, this thing isn't working. You're like, no, it's more accurate. I'm like, this is the most accurate debt clock
Starting point is 00:38:42 on the planet. We should get a big one like that clock up there and put it next to the clock, too. USB-C. Yes. Just feel safe. He's charging it right now. That's great resolution. What is that?
Starting point is 00:38:54 It's 320 by 170 is the screen on this. But I also brought you a stand. Oh, great. So I made out a copper roof flashing from my house. I had some roof flashing left over. All right. And you just, like I'll show you here on my deck clock, you just clip it to that and you can set it there. That's great.
Starting point is 00:39:13 I guarantee you I haven't put any spyware in it. Well, I'm not going to plug it into my computer. Defaulting on the interest would be unethical. Is that correct? Yeah, do the short yeah and then it'll just sit there on your desk look at that and you can be depressed all day how long is the battery last um on on the uh i've got three brightness levels the on the dimmest level it'll last eight hours but when you put it on adam schiff in the elevator with me level because i turn it up
Starting point is 00:39:45 super bright it would blind him yeah um it only lasts about three hours at that at the adam schiff blinding level so but it's got to make a point when it's doing that yes and i love getting stuck out elevator why why uh how about we get you know i asked you why is why are the republicans so bad at everything yeah why is it that you know bob menendez can be indicted more than once be found with what did he have he had gold bars actually gold bars with egyptian markings on them from the egyptian government and immediately it's like well hold on you know we can't expel the guy we gotta wait and then george santos has a bunch of accusations for being hilarious and charges and fair but not convicted of anything
Starting point is 00:40:25 and he's like throw him out we have no time for this guy it's it's a crying shame he's the only you know we've had all these resolutions of censure and impeachment and the only person we've managed to run out of office is one of our own it's ridiculous and now we've got a smaller majority because of it what for what reason did these did these republicans vote to expel george santos so the new york delegation did it to their own they brought this resolution to throw him out of congress on their own member because they thought he was weighing them down and he might cost them their re-election so they took out one new yorker to save four but why did all the other republicans join in not all the other but what 100 was it 104 105 enough of them yeah i can't
Starting point is 00:41:12 rationalize this for them i didn't vote for that to get rid of him i mean it's just one of the stupidest things we've ever done what was the conversation like when this was happening in the hallways where people like no i think it'd be good if he left or were people trying to avoid eye contact and not say what they were going to do. Well, like 105. They got mixed messages from our leadership. And then when it was too late, our leadership decided they wanted to keep him. That was McCarthy, right? No.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Johnson. Yeah. And so people had already went out and said things about getting rid of George Santos before our leadership said what they, you know, don't do that. And so people got locked into that vote. And then by the time they realized, no, this is stupid, they were already locked in at statements in the media. And, you know, I sat down next to Santos right before the vote happened. And I said, because, I mean, he's still a human being, right? And I said, look. A weird one, but, you know, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:42:12 He's funny. Yeah. He's very personable. And frankly, he had a very conservative voting record. If we understand correctly, he had like one of the better voting records for conservatives in the Congress. And especially for New York. And I sat down next to him. I said, listen, I don't know what you did before you got here.
Starting point is 00:42:30 That's none of my business. That's between you and your voters and a court of law. I said, but all of my interactions with you show me that you're a decent, competent, capable man, and you're going to go on to do good things, I think. So don't get depressed today. Because, you know, I was worried about, can you imagine and you're going to go on to do good things, I think. So don't get depressed today. Because, you know, I was worried about, can you imagine you're that guy and you rose to that level and then you just get kicked out one day? What do you do the next day?
Starting point is 00:42:55 I was worried he might hurt himself. And you turned down the brightness on your deck clock to make sure there was no other reasons to be depressed. He actually loved my deck clock. Are you friends with any of the guys who voted to out out him friends can we define you know this is is what is is mike everybody everybody no he voted not to evict him but he didn't sort of get out in front of this and stop it before it happened so uh andy barr you know him i do i hope he loses how about ken buck oh i really hope he loses uh dan crenshaw i hope he loses you're naming people who voted to
Starting point is 00:43:38 to remove him uh sanders and and i will stress this too i love making this point because people will message me all the time being like tim if, if you're mean to these people, they won't come on your show. And I'm like, oh, boy, I will. I will make a video where I name every single member of Congress, the Republicans, because Democrats I get who voted. And no, no, I'm going to give a special shout out to the Democrats. Robert C. Scott and Nakama Williams, Virginia and Georgia voted no. What do they have in their closet? I don't maybe they're saying
Starting point is 00:44:10 something like look I don't like Santos at all we don't care for him but this is a bad precedent. I got no idea they voted no. No that's a good point it is a horrible precedent as you pointed out he was indicted for some stuff but he wasn't convicted so now you're going to get I mean we've lowered the bar so low
Starting point is 00:44:25 that you know my my my my best case argument for compromise is if someone is if someone is charged with a crime at most what we do is they will be that we've given a bail opportunity and if no bail they go to jail until their trial is resolved and that means innocent people spend time behind bars i am not a fan of that it's a difficult position to navigate but i would err towards we should give people bond i would prefer house arrest it alleviate the prison systems and then innocent people don't suffer still there's a challenge right so if they came and said okay we're not going to expel him but we're going to suspend his committees or something until the resolution of these criminal indictments i'd say i, I don't like it, but I get it. You know, he's been charged with a crime, same for Menendez or whatever. Instead, they were like, no, we're
Starting point is 00:45:11 going to remove the guy. So, you know, the rage within me, you know what it is? It's just, I'm so sick of the incompetence, disorganization and failure to do anything that i really just want to see every single incumbent save like 15 people there's only a couple democrats that i'd say okay you know they can get re-elected i don't like them but they're allowed to disagree like um i can't even remember the guy's name uh who's the guy that we like who's a democrat he's in california do you know i'm talking about california yep yep yep california guy i can't remember his name i'll find it in a second um but there's only like a small handful of republicans i'd say should stay and each and every one of them gotta get voted
Starting point is 00:45:53 out we we gotta do something because i mean if the issue with santos is that they're waiting for leadership to figure out what is the principled thing to do or the long-term benefit and they don't know. That's bad leadership. Listen, let me tell you what the bar is on the Democrat side. There was a federal judge who took a bribe. And on the day that the person was supposed to testify against him, the guy decided not to testify. But it was so obvious that this federal judge took the bribe that Congress impeached him.
Starting point is 00:46:25 And the vote wasn't even close. It was like all but two or three senators it was almost the entire house his name's alcee hastings what does he do he turns around and runs for congress gets elected and served for over a decade i think he served you know for nearly 20 years i've overlapped with him and every you know you try to be nice every time you're talking to him you're like you're the guy who got impeached by this very body for taking a bribe as a federal judge and now you're here and you keep getting re-elected he's like hey guys what's up happy to be here with you was he convicted of after the impeachment um in the senate you know the senate convicted so the house impeached the senate convicted he didn't he didn't any jail time or anything. And there's no disqualification to run for Congress being convicted of taking a bribe as a federal judge? You could be impeached
Starting point is 00:47:12 and then turn around and run for Congress. So it was Ro Khanna who we often find, there are news stories where we're like, okay, I like that. Yes, Ro's a decent guy and he's good on privacy, First Amendment, war, anti-war. However, he did vote to oust Santos. So I don't know if I can forgive that. You know, he's got to go. You got to vote them all out.
Starting point is 00:47:34 In fact, I mean, I got to be honest. Like, if they're a Democrat, you should vote them out. That's the obvious thing. So I don't know if that needs to be said. I can respect and like that he's done some certain things. And even with that being said, Ilhanar's had you know broken clock is right twice a day rashida talib as well um and alexander alexandria ocasio-cortez she's the one who started the whole january 6 was an inside job thing and so i have tremendous respect for her
Starting point is 00:47:57 coming out standing up on camera and saying police officers were helping the j6ers and i'm like i'm glad you said this welcome to our team yeah the thing about voting them out and expecting it to get better i think is that and sometimes that can happen but a lot of people are driven by emotion maybe more now than normally maybe they're heightened because of the mass media manipulation you're right but if there is any member of congress who has the engineering and scientific know-how to create a cloning machine and then clone himself well and then take over Congress. It would be- We were talking before the show-
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Starting point is 00:49:39 And so there'd be the people voting through proxy for these decisions instead of like this little cabal of like 200 people that are all they all know each other and have emotions and this probably hold on come on if if you if you put it up to a public vote santos is out i don't think so i don't think so because i didn't know who he was before that i mean what would likely happen is three percent of the population would show up to vote on it and they would all be activists the the you're not going to mobilize conservatives on on a spec during a for a special election doesn't happen you could we could start doing that because they're activists in congress every one of them i mean we talked about this this came up before the show started and you know ian has mentioned this before about the people voting on bills and stuff and i pointed out this would create a bias towards people without jobs because
Starting point is 00:50:25 they have more access they have more time to actually go out and participate in these kinds of votes where people with jobs like i'm working today i can't let them do it online that was my vision is that it happens online can i just ask when you're in congress and the party is split over an issue like you voted against um i think hr2 was one of the immigration bills that came through this year. And there were things to end birthright or stuff like that. What is the culture that you guys have? Because that was pretty unpopular.
Starting point is 00:50:51 But you obviously have your own system of values that you were voting for. So the problem with H.R. 2 is it had E-Verify in it. So what is H.R. 2? It's a landmark immigration bill republicans you know anything hr less than 10 is a big deal i used to have a rule i never vote for hr less than 10 because it's usually some messaging bill or the lobbyists had paid to get an hr that was a single digit when i found out if i was the very first person on the very first minute, the very first day of Congress, and I introduced a bill, and it was H.R. 11, I was like, how did they do that? Well, I'm not voting for anything less than 10.
Starting point is 00:51:34 But it's changed. We've got some good bills. Every part of H.R. 2 was great except for E-Verify. And your objection to E-Verify is? Oh, my gosh. It's just another layer of government to track you. It will not be used to end illegal immigration. It may.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Some states have it. It's basically just raise the price of a fake ID. And in the meantime, it's it's not. It's people think, oh, this gets applied to illegal aliens no it's applied to every american who tries to get a job you are going to get e-verified now remember what they did with osha they use every government program they have to implement this communist future dystopia okay like they were going to use osha first First, OSHA was saying an employer can't force an employee to get a vaccine. But then OSHA flipped and said every company of a certain size, we're going to use this bureaucracy to enforce the vaccine mandate.
Starting point is 00:52:36 E-Verify would become V-Verify. So you would have to get a vaccine to get employed, and they would have the most efficient way to keep you from getting a job which is called e-verify so when you voted against it i mean how did your republican colleagues respond to this because this idea that like there are always going to be people who vote against bills that we feel strongly about and we have to understand their justification i mean i don't know that i would always want every representative to vote exactly the same on every bill that seems like sort of there was something very swampy that happened because i wasn't the only person opposed to e-verify so what they did is they gave a carve out
Starting point is 00:53:13 so that e-verify wouldn't apply to ag workers which is kind of the problem wow yeah that's funny and and it's so stupid isn't it and so then all the people who were with me trying to get E-Verify out of an otherwise great bill, they gave up and they got the thing they wanted, which is free, you know, the ag part of it. And the unions were okay with it because it still applied to anybody that was in a union that would threaten a union job. Ag workers aren't unionized. So anyways, it was really swampy the way they did this carve out after the bill had come out of committee. But nobody was mad at me because honestly, they knew I was doing it on principle.
Starting point is 00:54:02 And also, I think a lot of them knew i was right but they weren't going to take that stand you know and i'm thinking about you know as i asked earlier like why can't republicans get anything done and and and i i i envision these fiery speeches that you have given or i've seen like ran paul give and it's like they fall on deaf ears very often because you know people just don't care and then part of me thinks that there is no solution. And so I immediately just imagined, like, what would I do if I was in Congress? And I'll tell you what I'd do. I would show up on the first day with two gallons of whole milk and I would dump it on the floor.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And then I would tell them to expel me and I'd leave. Because I don't know that there is anything else you can do or anything you can do at all. Well, so support my move for the direct republic if you don't think these this is getting done we need something i disagree with your idea as well i don't think that's a solution either let me tell you why republicans are horrible on the budget and spending so right now you would think you know with the debt and accelerating and and everything in such a bad condition right now that republicans would get serious about spending but here's the problem we could we could limit the growth of government we could even influence
Starting point is 00:55:12 policy by putting riders on the budget but there are about 40 republicans who they will slit their own wrists before they allow us not to spend more money on the military. Like their whole goal is to increase military spending. Well, I imagine there's a lot, a lot of these guys come from military districts where a lot of the funding is from say a military base or some kind of contracting job. I would say so, but I don't know. I'm not justifying, I'm saying like, they're going to be like, look, if we don't get the funding, this company shuts down.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I lose all my, my, my, you know, my district loses jobs. Yeah, I don't know how they get to where they get to, but they get there and they will not accept any budget that doesn't spend another additional $50 billion this year on the military than it spent last year. Which means if there's some deal to cut everything 1%, there's no way in hell they'll go for it. Have you considered being evil to get what you want? Abandoning your principles and just taking out a Machiavellian life. So listen, I like the leftist approach of what level of evil? Like, why?
Starting point is 00:56:15 I mean, I'm a reasonable guy. Anna Claire has a point. Okay, I got a question. 13% evil. How come when the Republicans win the House and we know the omnibus is coming, you don't just like take a single sheet of paper that says on this date, as you've done, the Department of Education will cease and just slide it right in the middle of that five thousand tall stack of paper on that red writer. I did something like that. Red Flyer. Let me let me let me tell you what I did this summer.
Starting point is 00:56:42 And a lot of people didn't pay attention. But now they're they're they're panicking in Washington, D.C. because of this. I love the way this sounds already. Let's go. Okay. This summer, they were so desperate to get the debt limit raised, and I was on the rules committee. I said, if you put in a provision that says, if we're still doing CRs by April 30th, everything gets cut 1%. Put that in the law.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Get Joe Biden to sign it. Get Chuck Schumer to sign off on it. And they did? They did. It's in the law. And on April 30th, if they do a CR. By the way, this is the biggest leverage the Speaker has right now. He could just, I know everybody hates CRs.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I've never voted for a CR. And that is a continuing resolution. Yeah. It's just to keep the government funded at last year's levels. Yeah. It's just to cut, copy, paste, take that whole spreadsheet from last year and put it in this year. Okay. And they've been doing that. They've done, what, three or four CRs to get to where we are right now, because the spending was due on October 1st of last year. But if they go past April 30th, the Massey provision cuts everything 1%. And Joe Biden signed it into law. Did they not notice or what was it? He's a big fan of Thomas Massey.
Starting point is 00:57:54 He always has been. Back in July, you know, next year was so far away. They just figured we'll figure out some other way to screw the American public when we get to that. So how about so far away? Okay. So how about you say then in 10 years, you know, on December 31st, 2034, the Department of Education will cease operations. You know, it's 10 years later.
Starting point is 00:58:18 You can always change it, right? Oh, by the way, I forced a vote. I think a lot of people miss this. You know, Jimmy Carter set up the Department of Education in 1979. It was a re-election ploy. And it didn't work. It was a re-election ploy? Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Can you imagine that? And it didn't work, but we got stuck with the Department of Education. Yeah. Okay, so we've never, and Reagan campaigned on getting rid of it. Other people campaigned on getting rid of it. Nobody's ever had a vote on it, but I was able to force a vote on whether we should get rid of the Department of Education this summer. You should go look up this one too. This is a good litmus test. And here's what it was. It was like HR 5. I mean, one of these HRs. Okay. I don't remember what the
Starting point is 00:59:00 bill was, but it was one of the 10 signature bills that Kevin McCarthy wanted to pass. He had campaigned on it. He said, we're going to force every school to publish their curriculum and every library, local library at a school to put out the list of library books. And I said, you know what? That's a great idea. Every state should pass that law, but we have no business doing that at the federal level. Like what authority? By the way, I do have the bill to get rid of the Department of Education. And there's only one tool that the federal government has to enforce what they wanted to do. And that was the Department of Education.
Starting point is 00:59:34 It was H.R. 5. Yes. Thank you for looking this up. H.R. 5, Parents Bill of Rights Act. Okay, sounds great. And I told the speaker, there's no way I could vote for that bill because you are giving more power to, now, kind of power I would like and you might like, but ultimately you're giving more power for the federal government via the Department of Education
Starting point is 00:59:56 to tell states and local school boards what to do. I have a problem with this. And so McCarthy said, is there any way, is there any way you could vote for this and i thought for about a second i said there's one way i could vote for it he said what's that i said you let me insert an amendment vote on whether this department should even exist at all for the first time since jimmy carter you let me have a vote on the floor of the house on whether to eliminate the department of education or not and And he said, I'll do it. Yeah. So, and I agreed to vote.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Well, I can see why you liked McCarthy then. Well, you could deal with him, right? In that moment, he was reasonable. He said, what do you need? I said, I need a vote on eliminating the Department of Education. We got 160, roughly, votes from Republicans to end the Federal Department of Education. Wow. And Kevin McCarthy himself voted to end the federal department of education and kevin mccarthy himself voted to end the federal wow that's not bad uh so i imagine you're a chess player right not really not really you play connect four i have played that all right so
Starting point is 01:00:57 you know like in connect four what you're really trying to do is create a circumstance in which no matter what move your opponent makes it allows you to connect for yeah you know i mean so it's like if they try and block you here then you go here and can you do that with legislation right so what i mean is instead of just coming out right with a bill and saying the department of education will cease or like the federal reserve will be audited what you do is you put pieces of it in various places that all start triggering one at a time and then eventually some like member of Congress will wearing like an Indiana Jones hat running through piecing together all the bills like my God sticks them together. And it's like this abolishes the Federal Reserve. I think I think you can do that.
Starting point is 01:01:39 And that would that would be like an emergent phenomenon of intelligence taking over a government. This is what you must do. So none of the bills can outright say something like the Department of Education will cease. It has to be something like in a circumstance of X, Y, and Z, funding from the Department of Education will be reallocated to other areas, including military, whatever. Anywhere. And then what happens is piece by piece, things keep happening until eventually the DOE is just crippled and evaporates. Well, I mean, that's one of the reasons I got on the rules committee. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:11 So if you want to peel back the layers of Congress and how the American people gets the football pulled out in front of them, like Lucy taking the football from Charlie Brown, you need to look at how the sausage is made. Every bill after it comes out of its committee, before it goes to the floor of the House, goes through the Rules Committee. And we make new rules every week. Every week we make a new set of rules that we think will make stuff work that week better than last week. And mostly it's suspending our own rules.
Starting point is 01:02:44 We say, well, you can't make a motion to make us read the bill. No, we're going to suspend that motion. And so we suspend like 100 different motions, but we also decide which amendments can be allowed on a bill. It reminds me of when you play made up games with small children and they just change the rules in five seconds. Yes. That's the rules committee. Yes. That's the rules committee. Every week we make a different rule for every bill. But when you don't get the result you want, they're like, no, we changed the rules. This isn't how it's supposed to go.
Starting point is 01:03:14 And the first thing they tell freshmen when you get there, if you're in the majority, is they say, never vote against the rule vote. There's two votes on every bill. There's the vote on the rules for the bill. And then there's the vote on the bill. And they tell freshmen, never vote against the rule. This is the speaker doing his something, the most evil form of this that I've found that exists in the rules committee is a self-executing amendment. Okay. You want to know what a self-executing amendment is?
Starting point is 01:03:54 Of course, with that title. It's an amendment that passes itself. Oh, how nice. It's like self-checkout. Yes. It doesn't matter. So let's say a bill comes out of committee and the chairman didn't want to deal with something and the bill's going to come to the floor and nobody wants to, but the bill so that when you vote for this rules resolution that you've been trained since your freshman orientation is just a procedural vote,
Starting point is 01:04:31 you are actually voting for a rule that automatically passes an amendment and could change the whole nature of the bill. That sounds unethical. I would think so because there's no way in hell the American public can follow that vote. Everybody can go home and say, I didn't vote for that. I voted for some procedural thing. Plausible deniability. But the American people would not even think to blame them for that happening. Most members of Congress don't know about self-executing amendments.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Is there one example? Good, so glad we all know the rules to this game. Is there a specific one you can think of off the top of your head that's been recent, a self-executing amendment? Okay, so they did two in this Congress and then I finally said, you're not doing any more because I'm on the rules committee.
Starting point is 01:05:20 And I said, I will never again allow you to do this. And they could override me, but when I blow the whistle and then go try and explain what a self-execution is. So there are two examples they did. One was on E-Verify. I got screwed on E-Verify with the self-executing amendment. The bill, H.R. 2, had E-Verify in it, and these ag congressmen were upset, and so they didn't want E-Verify, but they got bought off by this idea of self-executing amendment, and nobody got their hands dirty.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Oh, we don't know how E-Verify only doesn't apply to ag anymore. This just, the bill magically somehow did that on its own. And then the other was an ethanol thing um we were rolling back a bunch of biden tax credits or or energy things a bunch of green new deal stuff okay but what it turns out that was going to affect ethanol in some of these states like iowa um and so they couldn't get the bill passed, but they also did not want Republicans voting for ethanol handouts on the floor of the house,
Starting point is 01:06:31 but they didn't have enough votes to pass this bill with the thing that punished ethanol or took out the ethanol subsidies. So they made a self-executing amendment to fix it magically. And nobody, I'm telling you i'm like one of 12 people who understands that that's how that got done so you said they train you about this when you're a freshman who is that who is they though who's training you on this um like why don't most congressmen know about this that seems like a very flawed logic that's used that commonly or it's good design the whole point is well i mean no it's designed that way why would they
Starting point is 01:07:08 you just after getting screwed hit hit the top button again one more time i did okay well it said that it was the year 2106 welcome to the future tim You got a special edition. You made it. Yeah. You've got to put your own Wi-Fi in there. I did. Oh. Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. Let's see if it gets it right this time. He's playing.
Starting point is 01:07:34 It's internet time. Is that normal? Yeah. 63 trillion. The internet has its own time. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Oh, it's doing it.
Starting point is 01:07:39 It's because I noticed that mine was a trillion behind yours, so I updated the Wi-Fi. Right. But now it's wrong. Because that's been in the box for like six months, and the rate has gone up more. So it needs to also get the rate. So the Democrats are really good at being evil, right? Like they lie about stuff all the time while accusing the Republicans of lying about stuff. The Democrats are organized.
Starting point is 01:08:01 They march in lockstep with each other. I think the January 6th committee is a really good example of like the malice. Jamie Raskin, for instance, included a video of me reporting, reading a news article rather dryly as I do, and acting as though I was encouraging people to go to January 6th. There were people on video. And then this guy's 20 minutes from here, Raskin. We have people who work here who are like, he's their rep. And so he plays the video. He's like, here's people encouraging January 6th. And there's some guy saying like, it's going to be a red wedding, storm the gates or whatever. And then it's me going, Fox News reports, Donald Trump says there's going to be a rally.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Then it cuts to someone else, cuts to me. And I'm like, now I've had people say like, oh, you know, I saw the thing where you were included. I mean, it's been good. I would actually say I had a friend hit me up. I't talk to in 10 years say i saw you on the news it was kind of weird because it was all these people calling for january 6th but then it was like you reading news or something and i'm like yeah it was kind of weird why would they do that but outside of that you've got you know adam schiff publishing the private phone records of an american journalist you've got him lying about proof of russiagate i mean they just lie all the time
Starting point is 01:09:06 for political power and the republicans do nothing and and maybe it's because there's no there's no such thing as a republican party there's the democratic party which is a cult of evil people marching in lockstep and then the republicans which is various factions and disparate groups of people with varying degrees of corruption amongst them. I would like to see us have a January 6th committee. How about a May 29th committee? This is what I don't get. Maybe it's because I grew up in, you know, like a Democrat in Chicago among Democrats and activists and organizers.
Starting point is 01:09:41 And I worked for nonprofits. The first thing I'd have done when they announced January 6th, I'd say, yes, we would also have the May 29th insurrection committee when thousands of far left extremists firebombed the White House, St. John's Church, injuring 100 plus federal officers, forcing the president into a bunker, disrupting official proceedings. So you do January 6th, we'll do May 29th. Instead, nobody even knows what May 29th is. I've had Republicans come in here in Congress and I asked them, why nothing on May 29th instead nobody even knows what may 29th is i've had uh republicans come in here in congress and i asked them why nothing on may 29th and they go what's that and i'm like now why do you know about january 6th but not when the president was forced into an emergency bunker
Starting point is 01:10:14 as the white house grounds were fire bombed they they literally threw fire bombs at the white house white house grounds saint john's church across street was set on fire a guard post at the white house was set on fire here's what both at the White House was set on fire. Here's what both of those events, those dates have in common. Without question, the government was involved, was inciting in both of those instances. Yeah, and many others. This is incredibly frustrating to hear, right? Like, we're sitting here, we've got a congressman who's been there for over a decade in Congress, right?
Starting point is 01:10:45 So it's not like he doesn't understand how Congress works or what's going on. He's generally considered one of the most constitutionally sound Congress people. And he's literally telling us that we have lost control of our government. Wait, is that true? Which part? That we've literally lost control? The people have lost control of the government? The feedback is not working, right?
Starting point is 01:11:07 For control to work, there has to be a feedback loop. And in that sense, yes, the feedback loop is broken. Because there's either not enough transparency in what's happening in Washington, D.C. for people to understand how to fix it through the ballot box. I think that's intentional with the Department of Education, which is something we harp on here all the time. There's obfuscation. It's like I was saying, the self-executing rules stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Like the best thing that I can do as one person in there is to help provide transparency. So, you know, this summer we forced over 700 votes, like being on the rules committee, Chip Roy and Ralph Norman and I forced over 700 recorded votes this summer. Which you think about, that means they would not have been recorded votes if it wasn't for the fact that they made a stink. Congress's whole point is to vote on legislation and they're doing their best to not vote on legislation because then they have to be responsible or they could be held responsible by their constituents nobody wants to work anymore phil come on so here's why can't you just get the vote on the doe again what why
Starting point is 01:12:16 not is it department of education yeah is it well i could but it's i got 160 votes now the voters need to go figure out who are the 60 or 70 republicans who voted to perpetuate federal control of your child's education can you get would you be able to get basically any reasonable bill to a floor vote no so so how do we make so but the doe is something you could be able to get to a vote i was able to do that as an amendment to a spending bill so couldn't mike johnson just bring it up or has to go through the committee he could but he won't well it would fail like we need public pressure that's the way yeah i get nervous about mob mentality but the internet
Starting point is 01:12:57 video is so powerful like you can raise hundreds of thousands of millions of people to go call their congressman at a certain time on a certain day tomorrow we could tell everyone at two o'clock tomorrow to call congress and then we could remind them tomorrow do it tomorrow again and get what we want but it's like then that's like the mob and i don't i'm very concerned about creating a mob okay we're missing something here right marjorie taylor green came here and she said that basically what happens for a lot of bills is there's like 10 republicans and 10 democrats and they just go then no one actually votes and then she's like forcing a vote on it right so there are bills that get passed without a vote not as much anymore because when you know
Starting point is 01:13:39 i started forcing votes and then three or four years ago a group of people like marjorie started showing up and started forcing the votes oh i didn't have to it wouldn't be better off if there was no vote then no vote what do you mean like you get a bill passed with no one voting on it they tried to do that on march 27th the cares act when i drove to washington dc and forced all of congress to vote on two trillion dollar bill bill. Thanks for that. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live
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Starting point is 01:15:19 what is all right let's start at the beginning. What is FISA? Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act passed in 2008 ostensibly to spy on foreigners, okay? And to give the authority, CIA, NSA, FBI, you go spy on foreigners. They started using this program to spy on Americans. Now, the way they do it, they say it's legal, and it it may be legal but it's not constitutional i know that's some cognitive dissonance but the laws the legal framework they're using they say okay we're collecting we're targeting foreigners and and that could be angela merkel okay it doesn't have to be osama bin laden of course our cia is spying on every head of state and every one of their chief deputies. Okay. So if you are targeting those foreigners, then you collect a lot of information and there's Americans in that
Starting point is 01:16:13 information. Like your emails may be in there because it went through the same server. Okay. That Angela Merkel's chief deputy stuff went through. So now your stuff's in there. So now they say they don't, the FBI and there. So now they say they don't, the FBI and all these organizations, they claim they don't need a warrant to go into that database, which is enormous, and search for Tim Pool's emails. And they don't even need probable cause. And so this has become known over the years that this is going on. First of all, Congress had to find out of this happening. And then the next people had to start caring. And we got to that point this week. And then we had to get a chairman of a committee who wasn't compromised, which is hard to do, to care about this. And that's Jim Jordan, who chairs the Judiciary Committee. And then advance a bill in his
Starting point is 01:17:04 committee. So we put a FISA reform bill through his committee. I'm on Judiciary Committee too, which says you've got to get a warrant. Okay. And it has some other good reforms in there. Right now, the government buys information about you that they would otherwise need a warrant for, but because they can buy it, they say they don't need a warrant to get it so for instance everybody's phone knows that you're speeding yep okay but and the phone company could sell that to the government imagine how much money they'd make if they if they bought that data and sent everybody
Starting point is 01:17:37 a ticket correct but they sell you know they sell stuff not that kind of material but very similar kind of stuff and the government should need to get a warrant to buy it. Anyways, so we put all that in this bill. This week, we got it to the Rules Committee. Okay. There was an argument over jurisdiction, the Intel Committee, which meets in secret. And they're responsible for overseeing CIA, NSA, you know, all those departments. They claim jurisdiction on this bill. Jud they claim jurisdiction on this bill.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Judiciary claim jurisdiction on the bill. The reality is there's joint jurisdiction, but if it's domestic spying, that is definitely the jurisdiction of the Judiciary Committee. Well, the Intel Committee said, we're going to blow this whole thing up if you don't agree to our terms of engagement on the floor of the House. And we said, okay, what are those? And they said, we're going to take out the warrant provision. We're going to take out the loophole around the warrant of buying the day.
Starting point is 01:18:31 We're going to sanitize your bill and make it more like a clean reauthorization of what exists. But you can have votes on the floor to put your stuff back in. Those are the terms of engagement we agreed to. So they dumbed down the judiciary bill. We brought it to the rules committee. We were having a debate there on which amendments to allow, like putting the warrant back in. We were going to have that vote on the floor, and we started winning. We were winning.
Starting point is 01:18:58 We were going to win on the floor of the House, and they canceled the committee. Who was they though ah this the speaker but he was pressured by the intel committee they've basically gone rogue so so he's a coward gone rogue yeah so literally the intelligence committee which the is prevented specifically by this specific amendment is literally derailing congress so that way they are not limited by the thing that exists currently to limit them correct these people are evil this yes happened uh yesterday yeah yesterday like in real time i'm in the committee listening to jim jordan testify on the bill. And we're in the rules committee.
Starting point is 01:19:50 We're getting ready to hear from the intel committee, and they refuse to show up. They refuse to show up and engage on a battlefield that they set. They set the rules of engagement. We didn't like them, but we said, okay, as long as we can have a fight and force everybody to take this vote on the floor of the House on whether you need a warrant or not. And they agreed to that. And then they. So it's Mike Johnson's fault. I don't want to say his fault completely. Like if he had if he had forged forward and tried to get it to the floor, they were going to take down the rule.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Now, that means they were going to try to keep the bill from coming to the floor because they were going to vote against the rules for the bill, which is, again, one of those procedural things that nobody gets blamed for, right? If you go home and- Maybe they should. Maybe they should, but if you go home and say, oh, I didn't vote against the warrant provision. I voted against some procedural thing. And they get away with it. So they threaten to do that. normally you can't do that the intel committee is called a select committee what that means is there's no meritocracy there's no steering committee that decides who goes on intel committee the speaker of the house puts them on that committee so if the intel committee refuses to play ball they refuse to
Starting point is 01:21:00 be involved then the speaker should remove them from the committee and put people on that are willing to go correct that that but okay so let's say the speaker does that to 20 republican members of the intel committee including the chairman of the intel committee what if two of them just get ticked and quit congress then there's fear that you're gonna then we're not we're not in the majority anymore This is the weird situation that we're in. Anybody can form a gang. And so this week, the gang was the Intel Committee. Last week, it was the four New Yorkers who took out Santos, who started that. They formed a gang and demanded to have a vote on what's called the state and local tax deduction, where you can take your state and local taxes off of your federal taxes, which at first sounds like a good idea. Nobody wants to pay more taxes, but it actually benefits blue states like California and New York who are taxing the
Starting point is 01:21:54 crap out of their citizens. And what it means is somebody in New York who makes, let's say, $200,000 a year won't have to pay as much for our military as somebody in Kentucky who makes $200,000 a year because the person in New York pays less federal tax because their state has taxed the crap out of them. So the New Yorkers were trying to make a political win. So they took the whole Republican conference hostage a couple weeks ago and got a vote on that, which they lost. I think the reality is there's no Republican majority. There is a handful of Republicans that are actually democrats we are minnows majority and name only yes that's so it's like if they were to resign i feel like having that's like it's just like but the problem maybe it's more worse like the americas vote like maybe it's less ken buck may as well be a democrat he
Starting point is 01:22:42 voted to keep mayorkas why Why? Because he's retiring? I don't know why he decided to do that. He decided. He's retiring, right? He's retiring. Yeah, so he decided he would stick a knife in the back of the younger generation of this country on his way out. But wait, let's be fair. We eventually got Mayorkas impeached this week.
Starting point is 01:23:00 And what's it going to accomplish? Nothing. Nothing. So Ken Beck stopped nothing from happening for nothing that would accomplish anything he stopped nothing that would accomplish anything from happening it's honestly i don't care when you guys say nothing like is that because when it goes to the senate it's correct yeah they won't even bring it up yeah it's not it's it's yeah right there will be no trial there will be no there needs to be a significant majority that they could that the the republicans can actually do something with
Starting point is 01:23:29 that's not paper thin because right now they're like with with the MAGA kind of you know america first conservatives and then the the would probably be called the establishment conservatives they'll they'll harpoon each other's ideas you know and i mean i obviously have my my own personal opinions on what should be done and i'm a small government kind of ideas, you know? And I mean, I obviously have my, my own personal opinions on what should be done. And I'm a small government kind of guy. And, you know, I want it to be as small as,
Starting point is 01:23:50 as we can make it and still function the way that we, that we need to, but like there's going to be significant pushback from not just the Democrats, but anything that actually shrinks the government is probably going to get pushed back from the more establishment Republicans, the, the fiscal conservatives. again i've been i've been following thomas massey's career since he got into congress and and these guys have been pushing back against
Starting point is 01:24:12 the same leviathan forever they've always you know thomas massey catches a lot of hell because he votes no on on uh on foreign aid stuff and he and and he's trying to be fiscally conservative and it's just an uphill battle, and then the government itself doesn't want to be regulated. So it's a freaking nightmare. Think of it this way. If Congress is a video game, you get to restart every two years. I keep making it to a higher level every time I play.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Thank God. There you go. Now I'm in the inner chamber. I'm in the, you know, what do they call it? The sanctum? The belly? You're in the, you know, what are they? The sanctum? The belly? You're in the belly? No, he's at the...
Starting point is 01:24:48 You're retrieving the wishbone from the throat of the... I meant the sub-boss. Sub-boss, yeah. Of the whale? What's the boss before the... The mini-boss? The mini-boss? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:57 You're fighting like the third mini-boss now? Fighting the mini-boss in the rules committee. So, you know, so I'll put another quarter in okay that shows you how old i am yeah it's 50 cents nowadays i'm right there with you i feel like we need more people that are willing to dispense with political parties and do what's right for the constitution and the country like it was george washington's main thing stay away from political parties that is the direct opposite of what they want though the constitution exists as a limiting machine like the point is it's a no machine it tells the federal government no you can't do this
Starting point is 01:25:31 no you can't do that no you can't do this no you can't do that the federal government fucking hates that shit like they want to be able to do stuff now we we got the government the federal government's you know busy trying to get into you know bathrooms and and whether or not you use the the right pronouns and should that be something the government talks about these are things the government has no business being involved in i understand in modern technology with internet and the ability for countries to spy on us we do need an adaptation to our constitution like we can't just sit here with our thumbs up our butts and be like yo just mail me your vote later there's an amendment process that's fair enough totally fine if you
Starting point is 01:26:05 want that like if you believe that 100 and there maybe maybe you're right but there's a process and nobody wants to do the process because it's hard and nobody wants to do anything hard i want to well thank you i appreciate our constitution was last amended in 1992 like it can be done yeah what was that last amendment it was to keep keep congressmen from voting to change their own pay without an intervening election. And the interesting thing is that 27th Amendment was proposed by the founding fathers, and it just never got ratified until 1992. How come? It's actually the basis of my lawsuit against Nancy Pelosi,osi which i'll find out friday or monday whether the supreme court's going to take up what's the suit so during covid i refused to
Starting point is 01:26:50 wear a mask like i i played along for a while because i thought okay i gotta represent my constituents and if she's if i can't speak and i don't but eventually pelosi said everybody's they said when will you get rid of the mask mandate and she said when everybody gets vaccinated and i said whoa i ain't letting this morph from a mask mandate to a vaccine mandate so i led 10 members of congress to the floor of the house during a c-span footage and showed none of us were wearing masks and so then i got fined by nancy pelosi and the only way she could get that money from me was to reduce my salary. And she did. And she did.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Wow. And so, but the 27th Amendment, which doesn't have a lot of case law because it wasn't ratified until 1992, says you can't change a member's salary without an intervening election. Wow. Interesting. Not just raise salaries. You can't change salaries. Correct. And the founders debated this on why you couldn't.
Starting point is 01:27:45 They were the reason, for instance, our salaries paid out of the treasury and not by the states in the House of Representatives is the founders were worried that the states might withhold our salary and that we should be accountable to the people as House of Representatives, not to the states. The 27th Amendment, no law varying the compensation for the services of the senators and representatives shall take effect until an election for representatives shall have intervened and that means that they would have to have like you'd have to run against someone that want to run against you in order for your salary to be changed after that election correct and most people think it was just to increase it but founding fathers said if you can control a person's sustenance you can bend their will nancy pelosi is an evil. Would it have been that they'd have an election with just, if she just wanted to change your salary, would it just be you would have to have an election or
Starting point is 01:28:31 all of Congress would be up for election? They did vote for a rule, which counts as a law in the House of Representatives. They voted for a rule on how to fine us, how to reduce our salary so if she had put that in before the the election you know she could implement that rule and probably reduce my salary individually using that rule but that rule was not in place for fining people for not wearing a mask so she's in violation of the 27th and when do you say you're going to go to here so this will not surprise you we had the only venue we can take it up in is dc okay so we lost at the district level and the and the appeals level and now we're asking for the supreme court to take it up we'll probably find out friday or monday what was the opinion of the lower courts that justified changing your pay without an election oh they said that there's
Starting point is 01:29:23 another part of the constitution that says each house shall make its own rules and that we can make whatever rules we want so the 27th amendment doesn't exist and then that's right yeah and there's another thing in the constitution people don't like this i didn't find out about till i got elected we have like super first amendment rights as members of congress wait Wait, what is it? Speech or debate clause. Speech or debate clause. What's that?
Starting point is 01:29:47 It says we can't be held accountable for anything we say in the House or do in the House of Representatives. That means he can go to the floor of Congress and claim that Ian Crossland kicks puppies for a living and makes money off it and you can't do anything about it. Really? And it sounds like a bad thing at first, but if you go look at what the King was doing to the parliament, he would just bring up these little things and just tie you down. There'd be a Fonny Willis, there'd be 10 of them for every member of Congress trying to litigate every word we say or everything we put on X. But now you get people like, you know, Jamie Raskin or Adam Schiff who will. Correct, and that's the price you pay. They can lie. They're allowed to lie. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:30:28 They're allowed to slander or... Yes. And defame and libel. Okay, but here's, just getting back to the court case. Only on the floor. Sorry to interrupt. Only on the floor? No, it's been ruled to also cover our staff and committees,
Starting point is 01:30:40 and it may... Oh, for God's sake. Have you considered being evil? Is that what you want? Thomas Nasty goes Machiavellian let me finish out this so the the judges in the in the circuit court the district court they said two things you get to make your own rules and Nancy Pelosi is covered by the speech or debate clause because this was an official activity that she undertook as a member of congress you see and and to your point Tim the 27 27th Amendment, if they don't take up our case and reverse
Starting point is 01:31:08 this, the 27th Amendment is not enforceable. We should just go give ourselves a pay raise because it's an official action covered by the speech or debate clause. Saying what she wants to say is different than changing your salary. What's speech or debate about salary here? Well, she had to basically like utter the words to make the bill come into existence so it's covered there's a lot of case law that says that's covered i i you know maybe we just need some republicans to start
Starting point is 01:31:37 accusing democrats of egregious activities well i don't want to about it i don't want to repeal the speech and debate clause because if no it would yeah that would be bad for for senators to get down lie about them as much as you can and if you can lie and throw them in jail lie and throw we have a republic that works with an ethical society we must remain ethical that's why this constitution works listen and i want i want uh representative massachusetts so i have a theory that liberalism has a blind spot and liberalism is vulnerable to authoritarian ideologies because authoritarian ideologies don't value things like honesty integrity truth they are just about power so because of that you can't be liberal in opposition to illiberal forces
Starting point is 01:32:23 so let's just bring the boot down on. Well, this is the Karl Popper. That kind of is. Yeah, that you if those who are tolerant will tolerate intolerance and tolerant intolerance will shut down tolerance. Partially, I think so. But you're right, because the way that it plays out, that is that is the the function but it from my perspective the point that i'm trying to make is it does boil down to a difference of like like entire philosophy of the way that the world works and how government should be approached and stuff and we talk about the rules and we talk about all these all of these protections that are in the constitution etc but if the people as in the population don't want
Starting point is 01:33:02 representatives that care about those things. And apparently, if you look at the people that make up Congress, they don't want those things. These things don't matter to the population. What do you do? Thank you, Phil. I've quit blaming my colleagues for anything. I blame the people that voted for them.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Like, you know, I don't get mad at AOC. She's a duly elected person representing her district. And, you know, actually, I get more upset at some of my Republican colleagues who are pretending to be something they aren't. Yes. And this is the problem with term limits. Now, we had a term limit vote in judiciary, and I voted for it. But here's the problem. If you throw out all the clowns, who elects the new clowns? Same people. Same people pick the the clowns who elects the new clowns same people yeah same people pick the new clowns they pick the old clowns here's what we need we need someone
Starting point is 01:33:51 to run as a democrat and then once they get elected just say things like you know adam schiff soiled himself tweeted out like this is shocking and what you do is there's clever things you do so there was this uh this guy made this video where he bought the apple vision pro right he's driving in his car wearing it and doing the weird little things with his fingers and he literally was driving his car while wearing a headset he then in the video it shows cops behind him with their lights on and he's looking and he's making it seem like he got arrested when, in fact, what he did was they drove until they saw police pulled over and made it seem. So what you do is when Adam Schiff at any point gets up and like runs, runs out of the room, you film it and then you can tweet. Adam Schiff soiled himself.
Starting point is 01:34:35 I still smell it. It smells bad. People are shocked. I can't believe this happened. And then you have a video of him running out, which corroborates it, even though it's a lie. I guess he can't do anything about it because of the speech and debate clause. But they can censure you. then George Santos you, remove you. Probably that's what would happen.
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Starting point is 01:35:41 charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. But then you just say, look, I think I understand why I was expelled. It was a deep embarrassment to the entirety of the House that a man of this tenure had soiled himself in public. And it was actually requested of us that we not
Starting point is 01:36:00 make a big deal of it, but I think the American people have a right to know. And for that, I've paid the price. Is it like a sense of desperation in congress which is raising tensions like if the economy was extremely good right now would would it be much things be much more fluid i don't know if there's there's desperation but i do think it's it's gotten more animated in congress since i've been there not always for the better i mean i know people want us to fight but some of the fights just don't make a lot of sense you said last time i think you're on the show you're talking this like emotional people have
Starting point is 01:36:38 become like emotionally overridden in that reason or logic or something well look i mean that's the default setting i made the point about taking two full gallons of whole milk and dumping them on the floor yeah and it's because my attitude right now is there is a tidal wave washing everything away and all we're talking about doing is swimming against it so when you're saying there's certain fights that don't don't it doesn't make sense to fight those fights and And then there are some where it's like, we got to get this one done. For every 100 negative things, there's like, what, two or three good things. And it's just, we're rolling downhill.
Starting point is 01:37:12 At a certain point, I'm like, just chuck the gallon of milk on the floor and just make it smell bad or whatever. And then I'm out. It does nothing. But what else could be done? Here's the one fight we should be having. And if everybody cared about winning, they'd be focused on it. And it's the funding fight. Because the only bill that has to pass every year is the spending bill.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Everything else can be paused, suspended. It's superfluous. Yeah, it's superfluous. You can make, so it's, and, you know, we control the House. We don't control Senate. We don't control the Senate. We don't control the White House. But we do know the Senate is going to pass the spending bill, and we do know Joe Biden is going to sign it. So literally 99% of our effort, if we're just trying to win a victory instead of be symbolic and preen and virtue signal to our constituents, 99% of our efforts should be on that spending bill but it
Starting point is 01:38:06 does sound like the intelligence agencies will walk into speaker johnson's office and they'll have a manila folder they'll place on the desk and slowly open it there's a picture of jfk that will slide across the table and i'll say i will do anything you say and that's the end of it so at the end of it if you can't get a speaker who's actually going to do the job because they're terrified of, I mean, let's be real. You could be driving your car in D.C. and get carjacked. Whoopsie. You could be walking from a supermarket in a botched robbery. You could be like an I.T. guy who's like working on an email server, but you're on your way home from work.
Starting point is 01:38:40 And then all of a sudden someone tries to rob you and you die but they never actually take your stuff yeah is is the crime in dc actually a cover for the the government using like authoritarian thug tactics like you send people up to beat up people walking around is that why they want the crime to go up so that way you can just be like it's plausible deniability i don't think you can't let it get too low that'll become suspicious i remember i remember when kevin spacey pushed that journalist in front of a train. You guys are, I remember that one. Oh yeah, that's predictive programming.
Starting point is 01:39:07 That's crap. That show's terrible. That show was actually really good. I thought it was horrible. Kevin Spacey had a fake accent from the South. It was real bad.
Starting point is 01:39:16 That's an actor. You know, I started watching that show and then there was the House of Cards. Yeah, House of Cards. One of the early episodes
Starting point is 01:39:22 a congressman does cocaine in a trailer with a college friend to get some dirt on another college guy. And I thought, that's just ridiculous. And I had just gotten elected to Congress. I was going to say, were you in Congress yet? I had just gotten elected. That's why I was watching the show.
Starting point is 01:39:38 And then I was like, that's stupid. I'm going to quit watching. Two weeks later, my colleague gets arrested for buying cocaine at Union Station. Trey Radel from Florida, a congressman. All right. So it should be really, I like Trey Radel, but if there was anything he was guilty of, it was lack of imagination. Like, you can't imagine that they're waiting at Union Station to arrest congressmen who
Starting point is 01:40:01 are buying cocaine. Like, can you get somebody to go buy it for you but it also it also sounds kind of like if you're a member of congress and you're caught buying drugs i'd imagine the first thing they do is say you're going to vote the way we want you to vote for now one yeah and that and probably trey said not yeah and and that's why i got trouble but okay but following up so then i had to go back and watch house of cards and every detail it's like they took the lamps out of my office okay and the chair rail was the same height. I went over and measured it. I'm like, this looked just like my office. It looked just like the majority whip's office. Everything was
Starting point is 01:40:34 so real. And so I watched- You were expecting certain people to pass you in the hallway. I was getting PTSD on the weekends watching this. But then I realized there's one element of the whole House of Cards that got wrong that is nothing like Congress. I couldn't watch it again once I saw this. In House of Cards, there's a guy with a plan. There is nobody that has it. Ruined the show for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:56 There is nobody in Congress who's had a plan that's lasted more than two weeks. Yeah. At least, you know, what was his name? Well, why don't you make one? Frank Underwood. Frank Underwood. I might, like, if there was really a Frank Underwood, as an engineer, I would be, like, under his tutelage, probably.
Starting point is 01:41:15 He'd be like, find me some structure. Yeah, here's the guy with structure. I think the piecemeal bills, putting 10 pieces of one bill scattered about in a bunch of other bills that get passed that activate upon certain conditions. Epoxy. That's right. Exactly. And then when they put them together in an omnibus, they just bond.
Starting point is 01:41:36 You're definitely an engineer at heart. I was thinking more like Exodia from Yu-Gi-Oh. If anybody understands that, Dane is probably cheering right now. If it, like a plan, like retrofitting our economy to a hydrogen fuel-based hybrid gasoline-hydrogen fuel economy, would you, if someone had that plan and they talked about it a lot in Congress, inspired other congressmen, stood up and talked about it in speeches, gave numbers, patterns, like, that kind of thing, are you going to run? I don't know if I would win. I don't even know if my value would be served there if I should just come in and talk.
Starting point is 01:42:09 Talk? Like just go in and hang out and explain things. You guys are the envy of every congressman. Okay? Seriously. Because 90% of what we do is messaging and trying to convince people that they should call our colleagues and get them to do stuff right and you control all of that like you are way more powerful here with a microphone on this show than you could ever imagine being in the house well look at
Starting point is 01:42:36 we could go to the house and look at aoc she has both yes she plays this is what she plays the outside game. It's hard to do both, but she is in all 435 districts to some degree influencing. I mean, what freshman ever got the name of their bill mentioned every day in the House of Representatives? Well, have you considered doing your skincare routine on Instagram Live while you take the train to Congress? We're going to go to Super Chats. I have considered mixing margaritas because I drink medical margaritas. We're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like
Starting point is 01:43:12 button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends and head over to TimCast.com. Click join us because the members only uncensored show will be a whole lot of fun. We're going to talk a bit more about Congress and certainly more questions to be had. But for now, we will read your Super chats all right zachary mccoy says first baby that's right you were the first super chat congratulations you get a margarita from thomas
Starting point is 01:43:32 massey medical margarita i'm not a recreational drinker says people cheering for biden's nonsense is not new ask them what president obama would say in his speeches and they have no clue because it's all platitude yeah basically when biden says something like batacaf care people cheer for it and you're asking like why are they cheering what did he say i don't know but but the elite said to applaud and they were like we got it joshua flower says tim i asked you a clip of biden's gaff from last night the cheering started before the gaff and quieted down shortly after uh i think it was the batacaf care one that i was i think i mixed up i think it was batacaf care where they cheered and it's like what and then so that was
Starting point is 01:44:10 my bad so uh i confused the clips and uh but there is cheering before he says trinidad a pressure all right let's grab some more vincent.thunderwizard.com says hey tim and crew my dog coco passed away on tuesday after a long life of 16 years. I'm grieving and miss her very much. Love the show and keep doing what you're doing. Much love, Vince. Sorry to hear it, Vince. Yeah, to Coco, the kingdom of heaven, you know.
Starting point is 01:44:36 We got Mr. Bocas. He's sleeping curled up right here, right next to me. And, you know, his hair is not growing back. So when he goes to the vet, they shave his arms for the IVs. And I think we've kept him alive a very long time. So his story is he was a street cat. He's got bad kidneys and a bad heart. And because of his heart, we can't give him the kidney medicine.
Starting point is 01:44:57 Because of the kidneys, we can't give him the heart medicine. We could have got him a kidney transplant, but his heart is bad. And for whatever reason. But Ian got him stem cells and so that seems to have done something and he's been alive a lot longer than he was supposed to have so we got him we got him hopped up on all kinds of medication he was supposed to be dead over a year ago try medical margaritas medical so what is a medical margarita i just have to know right now it's it's very strong and it's an exact dose. Okay, but why? All right, let's read some more Super Chats.
Starting point is 01:45:27 Dose is just everything. All right, let's go. Coley Locks Production says, Hey, Tim, you said yesterday you wanted a World War II historian for the culture war. If I may make a suggestion, you should invite Tick History. T-I-K History. I like Tick. He's good. Talk about it.
Starting point is 01:45:41 He's a great World War II historian and very knowledgeable about the politics. That would be great. We've got a, tomorrow we have a California secessionist and a Civil War historian coming on the Culture War. So that's over at Tenet Media on YouTube. That'll be 10 a.m. live. You don't want to miss it. I'm really excited for this one.
Starting point is 01:45:55 It's going to be a lot of fun. It's very easy to get a Civil War historian in this area because we're like 10 miles from Antietam. We're 40 minutes from Gettysburg. You like throw a rock and hit 12 of them. Yeah, right. So when we were like, we would need a Civil War historian, they're all running here in Civil War outfits like me.
Starting point is 01:46:13 They have their thesis out. I am the best one. I mean, you go to Gettysburg. Have you guys ever been there? You check out? We just drove down a road and we saw Confederate costumes and reenactors. And I'm like, I bet any one of them could talk your ear off about all of it probably any of the people on the tour tours too like if you're touring all these battlefields you know a fair amount yourself it's really fun i mean i'm
Starting point is 01:46:33 sure there's some dude who just lives there and works at a starbucks and he's like i know everything about the civil war all right let's grab some more super chats where we at what's interesting about that is west virginia did secede and made it stick like people say it could never work as you know seceded from another state and it stuck i'm torn on it because it was dirty but i'm glad it happened so the general idea is when all of the virginia men who lived in the area were off fighting the people who were not fighting voted to secede so that's kind of messed up then after the war ended virginia was like yo this is not legit the supreme court's like it's totally fine and they get to stay and now west virginia is like second most second most based
Starting point is 01:47:14 wyoming i guess is considered the most based but that's because they're actual people who not to survive west virginia's got a lot of mountain people so they know what's up but west virginia is best virginia so all right barely a millennial says rep massey how do you prepare yourself to go into the lion's den every day is it really so difficult to not be corrupted also shout out to my rep victoria spartz nice to see my state getting vocal okay first of all i drink raw milk every morning uh bring it from kentucky it's yours too right, but I can't say where it comes from. I have beef cattle. I don't have milk cows. And Victoria's Sparks is awesome.
Starting point is 01:47:50 Cool. You have chickens. You have the Cluck Capacitor. I have the Cluck's Capacitor, which is an invention of mine, which is basically a giant Roomba with a bunch of chickens in it that moves in the yard and takes the chickens with it.
Starting point is 01:48:04 They're all on fresh grass. It's got a 4,000 volt perimeter that it carries with it. It collects the rainwater as it goes. Wow. Fertilizes. And they drink the rainwater, is that it? Wow.
Starting point is 01:48:14 You know, that may be impressive to some, but we have a chicken city and we're going to be building Neo chicken city. So first we had the small chicken coop, double layer fencing in this box. And there was a little thing I would lift up to open the door in the morning so the chickens could come out. They would go to bed at night. And there was actually one point a bear came and tried ripping its way into the chicken coop to kill. This was our original seven chickens well when we laid
Starting point is 01:48:45 concrete and got rid of that patch of grassy area and tore down chicken city we had to build a new chicken city and so now we have this massive structure with it actually has a house with an air conditioning and a tv and everything i haven't been in there in a year and uh large quantities of chickens however we're moving in less than a month. And so that means, what are you going to do? New, new chicken city? We can't do that. You need a Clucks capacitor. Neo
Starting point is 01:49:13 chicken city. So it's going to be Tokyo cyberpunk, and we're going to put neon everywhere and make it look futuristic. And I'm going to get little sunglasses for the chickens. Little razor blades, like neon colors. That's sick. Is it underground? No, no. Oh, that's a good idea idea how's it going to survive the emp okay here's my idea chicken city i don't know if this here's an idea we had the other day we've had for a long time
Starting point is 01:49:33 actually so in fremont in seattle there is a statue of lenin which is still for sale i believe 250 000 was the last quote but but when was that like 20 years ago no no someone someone said on twitter that that they saw it within the past like six months let's get it so i want to buy the statue of lenin i want to lay it down partially buried and put the chicken's roosting bar across over it so that every day we have a live camera and you see lenin's face getting spattered with chicken shit and i think it would be one of the greatest accomplishments of my life and i think the audience of this show would greatly appreciate it i think that chicken city could become one of the most popular shows among conservatives and libertarians and just
Starting point is 01:50:15 anyone who hates communism in general and they can just know that no matter how bad your day gets you can always go to chickencitylive.com and watch a chicken take a dump on lennon's face that's good right we gotta buy it it is it's a business that writes its own business plan and then we could sell t-shirts that have like lennon with bird crap on his face it's like it just i mean you're rich for the rest of your life there you go maybe i'm not kidding either we're trying we're gonna figure out how to buy you just made a replica of the statue would that be enough do you need to put out that capital to start crapping on linen's face or can you just get started with the replica so someone built this statue and it's been in seattle and it's a point of contention provenance yeah and so to take that from the seattle communists and then desecrate it live on camera it just feels so good i'd ask i'd ask your civil war expert about that before you start well so here's the thing right
Starting point is 01:51:12 should we spend 250 000 on a statue of lenin plus shipping transport construction i think the people who are members at timcast.comcom would demand it. They would say, Tim, I will cease my membership unless you buy these communists statue and desecrate it. In all seriousness, I don't think anyone actually cancel if we didn't. But I think a lot of people would sign up if we did. And I think I don't I don't it's not about the money. It's about sending a message, you know. So, you know, I post a joker meme and then post the video and say we have done it i think we could do it um i don't think it'd be that difficult
Starting point is 01:51:50 it would be probably like five figures to transport and set up we would need to trench a little bit so it's partially like i want it partially buried so it looks kind of like post-apocalyptic like planet of the apes yeah statue of liberty and yep yeah yeah and then and then just put the roosting bar right above it and so just every day it's just and you can watch and it and it will bring joy to those who have suffered under the hands of communism i hope it one falls right here so it looks like he's crying chicken shit i mean that's what i hope all right let's go andrew 843 says rep massey why can't we get a vote on major richard star act hr 1282 congress said it doesn't have the 9.7 billion for 10 years to pass it but yet we have 60 billion for ukraine good question it doesn't matter to have money there's so many things that are less
Starting point is 01:52:39 than 60 billion dollars that we could do that we say we don't have the money for but when it comes time to send it to ukraine oh nobody asks how you're going to pay for that well we have the money for that yeah of course voodoo because it all comes back like it's a boomerang you know biden sent a letter to the house of representatives recently extolling the virtues of all the military spending they don't call it the military industrial complex anymore. They call it the defense industrial base. So the MIC is now the DIB, if you're keeping up with the terminology. But he listed all the states
Starting point is 01:53:15 that would benefit from spending all this money in Ukraine. I want to go back to the Lenin thing. I'm thinking about if we made our own statue of Lenin and it just doesn't punch. You know what I mean? I agree. So there are communists in seattle probably love that thing i would love to take it from them you know what i mean like it would bring me great joy to know that they have lost something is it for sale it's it's historically been for sale phil was looking you know i guess someone said that it was for sale i think i might have a phone number too
Starting point is 01:53:40 really i might i'm not sure it must be done and no no no hold on someone chatted saying tim wants you to give him 250 000 no no no no i already have 250 000 i am not going to ask anyone i will not do a fundraising drive for this i will not do a go fund me i will not say if you become a member today i may do it no no don't worry if you're a member or not we are we are working on it this is important it is it's important because ask yourself what matters in this world right if someone came to you and said i will give you a great castle for which you can live in i ask myself well who will take care of the castle who will clean the latrines who will repair the damage in a storm i can't be bothered with this
Starting point is 01:54:24 someone comes to me and says, perhaps I could give you a million dollar sports car. And when do I have time to drive that? I don't drive. I'm sitting in this box complaining on the internet all day. It's meaningless. But what matters to future generations? What matters is that we take from the communists
Starting point is 01:54:39 and we desecrate their sacred images. I back this. It's immortal. The car will break. The castle will fall. I can go to a casino and gamble it what does that accomplish and i could desecrating lenin is it'll be in the history books and the statute show it on the floor of the house and be covered by the speech or debate clause yes here's a live stream of chickens crap i'm gonna cry this is so beautiful and i would just
Starting point is 01:55:05 but i would say can you believe what he's doing i just can't believe he's doing this it's so great i mean what make the democrats praise communism make them do it make have have a vote on a resolution to denounce communism and see how many many are like, I won't do that. We've actually taken that vote. Oh, okay. And the Democrats were like, nah, we're cool with it. Some of them, it splits them down the middle, frankly. Not kidding.
Starting point is 01:55:34 We had a vote to condemn socialism. And half the Democrats voted for it and half voted against it. The ones that voted against it against they are aware that it means if if like you have to give up your property you don't have property rights and without a without property rights like the economy doesn't go guys the statue of lenin in in uh you know there's nothing to pull up you're just pulling the statue of len of Lenin has its own Wikipedia entry. When we buy this and desecrate it, they will update its Wikipedia entry, and the image of it will no longer be this beautiful picture from Seattle.
Starting point is 01:56:17 Remember who's going to do the update. But a toppled Lenin. Remember who's going to do the update, too. Who, you? They're going to be commies. They're going to be Antifa. They're the ones that update Wikipedia. Oh, I know. So right now, if you go to the wikipedia for statue of lennon it shows just the statue and there's a tree and there's like a walkway and it's in the city but if we
Starting point is 01:56:33 take it and we cover it with chicken shit that will be the photo they must use we got to do this i've got we got it we i gotta call a lawyer and be like, facilitate this, make it happen. Based Jew says, donate this to the Lennon Statue Reclamation Project Act. And it's a $50 super chat. It shall be done. We appreciate you. Look, there's no guarantee they sell it to us. They may say, it's a piece of art. You shouldn't destroy it.
Starting point is 01:56:58 Put it in a museum. I actually don't disagree with that entirely. You know, I'm being kind of a dick when I say, let's destroy this thing. Maybe you're saying you're doing a new performance rsp that's true involving updating the statue you're just gonna paint it with deconstruction it's deconstruction yeah yeah but they may they might say no we won't do it or they might say a million dollars you know they might jack the price up who knows do you have do you have like a ceiling limit how much would you spend on this this lennon statue i don't know it's kind of like when i'm on my deathbed people are going to ask me like what did you do with your life that mattered the
Starting point is 01:57:34 most and the first thing i'm going to say is the people i care about my life my family everything we do is for them obviously but if you're asking me about career and accolades and accomplishment i don't know what could top taking the statue of lenin and having chickens shit all over it you know like i i if i was ever to run for office and was like in congress i'm sorry rep massey but i would not care at all relative to having chickens shit all over lenin i mean that's something that can't be bought you know what i mean like we're lucky that we're trying to figure out the opportunity in which to do such a thing i think you better use an intermediate buyer are you are you willing to help us with this would they sell it to uh rep thomas massey do you think so the so the other issue might be able to get a grant for it now oh i'm
Starting point is 01:58:20 you know i gotta be honest like there's government money money for this. No, no, NGOs. Oh, sorry, NGO. There's probably a bunch of non, there's a bunch of nonprofits that oppose communism and they're very, very wealthy. I wouldn't be surprised if I went to them and said, here's the idea. They'd be like, we'll pay half. Let's make this happen.
Starting point is 01:58:36 That being said, they may be a bit more academic and say, that's kind of crude and we're trying to be very serious in highlighting the terrors of communism. And I would just be like, I just don't like communists, you know? So we want to do this, but you know, we'll figure it out.
Starting point is 01:58:51 We'll figure it out. I think we can get it. All right, Ricky M says, since Donald Trump is gaining popularity among Gen Z, how long until the Dems start shouting, we need to repeal the 26th? Any guesses? I don't know. 26th is, I'm sorry. Which one's 26th. Any guesses? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:59:05 26th is, I'm sorry. Which one's 26th? Is it an amendment? Yeah. I'm not even sure what it is. Is that the 18-year-old's right to vote? We should probably all know what all the amendments are. Like, that's an American.
Starting point is 01:59:17 Yeah, that's an 18-year-old's right to vote. I mean, I thought I knew, but I was kind of like, I'm going to say the wrong one, aren't I? So I didn't want to say it. can't you can't have kids going to war without being able to vote yes you can well i mean i i don't feel comfortable saying personally but they disagree but they can't buy cigarettes they can't buy alcohol fair enough in a car i do not i do not think voting should be uh predicated upon uh just an age however in terms of what you're saying about going to war i certainly think if you do if you do join
Starting point is 01:59:52 you have the right to vote i do not believe simply because you've reached the age of majority you have a right to vote fair enough and also i mean i'm not i'm not everyone knows that i'm not the biggest democracy lover and the fewer people vote the better better, the happier I am. I have a bill that's in this zip code. It's called the Safer Voter Act. And I tie the voting age to the age you can buy a handgun. So right now you can't buy a handgun from an FFL because of federal law until you're 21. In Virginia. Wait, federally?
Starting point is 02:00:22 Federally. What? Federal law. Since when? It's been a long time. so i didn't know that so i call it the second amendment for every registrable voter the safer voter act oh that's a good one yep well let's get that one through yeah have you considered putting something in to repeal the nfa i think one of my colleagues has already done that can you do it again we could try to get a vote on that i mean can you sneak value in that i mean and how many I think one of my colleagues has already done that. Can you do it again?
Starting point is 02:00:47 We could try to get a vote on that. I mean, can you sneak? I mean, and how many people in Congress even know what it is? Oh, I got a bill passed today. Wait. Which one? This is kind of important. I've forgotten this. Like, there is a little bright spot.
Starting point is 02:00:56 You mean you got some work done? I just came out to hang out today. In judiciary, I passed a bill out of committee, and I got every Democrat and every Republican to vote for it. And it's a pro-Second Amendment bill. Yes. What does it do? So the NICS background check system. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Okay. It's very sloppy. Oh, yeah. There are millions of false denials. Okay. Since it's been put in existence. Yes. I saw this and it has to talk.
Starting point is 02:01:22 Go ahead. Yeah. So millions of false denials. And a lot of people give up. You can appeal it, but if your appeal is denied, now you've got to hire a lawyer and spend money. So it's a bad thing. They use phonetically similar names and similar birthdays. They don't even go on exactness because they kind of want it to be sloppy because the more people that get denied the fewer guns there are yep but what i discovered in talking to some people who've studied this is that's inherently racist the the system is if you're a black male you're three times more
Starting point is 02:01:56 likely to get falsely denied purchase of a firearm than a white male here is why within ethnic groups and races you share similar first names and surnames and if you are because there's so many black males incarcerated or have been and we can talk about over incarceration some of that is wrong you are more likely when you go to buy a gun to share a similar name with somebody who's, if you're a black male with a black male who is, has a disqualifying condition, i.e. a felony. So the bill that I got passed today in the House of Rep, in the Judiciary Committee, the House of Representatives says the FBI has to give us all of that data they already collect on the form 4473 and tell us statistically we don't want individual knowledge of these people by race ethnicity country of origin
Starting point is 02:02:54 and sex what the denial rates are and what we are going to prove and the fbi is going to give us the the data is that this sloppy nix background background check system has a racial bias in it. Wow. And I got Democrats to care about that because, you know, they talk about racial bias in AI, image recognition, drug prosecutions, traffic stops. Healthcare. It's everywhere. So here's one place where it legitimately exists and we're going to get the data. We're going to show that. And so the whole result of that hopefully is we narrow this down and don't be sloppy
Starting point is 02:03:28 so we don't deprive not just blacks and Hispanics but whites from buying guns. Right on. Let's read this. Tucson Alorum says, trust me, just buy a bust. A full-blown statue is pricey. I looked into this to recreate Chris Farley's in a van down by the river pose at my creek. Turned out to be cheaper to buy a fat homeless guy with a van to live in still yes um i'm not spending 250 000 to buy a statue i'm spending 250 000 to take
Starting point is 02:03:53 away from communists that's it all the commies in seattle and all the leftists will collectively lose their minds and you know i gotta be honest if they find out that i'm doing this if we actually make big moves on this they may get into a bidding war to try and protect their communist statue so we'll see sean says tim make a shirt with a toppled stalin statue and chicks furiously pooping on him and his quote you have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet it was out that was a stalin quote tucson lorem said invest in a bus they're like 10k tops and you have the head at a few eggs to make an omelet. That was a Stalin quote? Tusen Lorum said, invest in a bus. They're like 10k tops and you have the head at the right
Starting point is 02:04:30 level. I've looked into this already. It just doesn't land. You know what I mean? Like, oh, we made a bus of Lenin. Who cares? It's sort of funny to me how people are like, I've already looked into this. I've already considered this idea. We were going to build a statue but it's too much money. Some of the statues are hard to get a hold of. Like, all of the Civil War monuments
Starting point is 02:04:46 that have been removed. They make it very, very difficult for people to get their hands on them. This apparently was a Lenin quote. If you want to make an omelet, you have to be willing to break a few eggs. Cord Wilkinson says, I will pick up the statue and deliver it, no charge. I really, really want to make this happen. We have to do trenching, which can
Starting point is 02:05:01 cost a little bit, because we need to dig out enough to where we can position it at an angle. And then I just think it'd be so fantastic to see chickens just jumping up on it and pooping, doing chicken stuff. But all right, my friends, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to timcast.com, click join us, become a member, and you can watch the members only uncensored show coming up in just a few minutes with Rep Tom Massey. And it's going to be a lot of fun.
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Starting point is 02:07:23 and maybe I'll run for Congress, man. Maybe I'm going to run for Congress.. Brimlow. I'm Ian Crossland. Maybe I'll run for Congress, man. Maybe I'm going to run for Congress. This is nuts. This is a soft launch of your campaign right now. You got to do something great. And I feel like, what am I doing with life? Let's do something great.
Starting point is 02:07:34 Either way, good to see you again, man. And thanks for enlightening me and all of us that the military industrial complex is now called the Defense Industrial Base. They get dibs on your money. Oh, dib. Wow. Yeah, that's... Horrifying. What a coincidence. complex is now called the defense industrial base they get dibs on your money oh dib wow yeah that's horrifying what a coincidence by the way i have there's like this shadow uh x account that a lot of people don't know about called massey ratio hall of shame but you have nothing
Starting point is 02:07:56 to do with it uh it's a gray op like i mean i might i might know somebody who knows somebody. Currently following. But anybody who, you know, like Adam Kinzinger, is just a total ass on X, and then we comment, and then they get ratioed. Your pinned tweet ratios build character. That's actually from Twitter. Well, we'll get into that in the member show.
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