Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #968 US SCRAMBLES JETS As ANOTHER BALLOON Sparks Panic Amid Cyber Attack Fear

Episode Date: February 24, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil. & Serge join Ben Kew to discuss US scrambling jets to intercept another spy balloon floating across the US, JD Vance calling for Google to be broken up, Google Gemini AI defending child abuse, and a clip showing Bernie Sanders opposing open borders. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and the U.S. military has dispatched jets to investigate. Apparently they're saying it's not a big threat, but of course everyone's kind of worried because we just had a major cyber attack against our healthcare infrastructure the other day, and what many people think may have been a cyber attack on our cell infrastructure, though there are some

rumors that it was just a failed software update. So we'll get into that stuff, but we also have Fanny Willis. Jim Jordan says there's a whistleblower who's come forward. So that could get really, really interesting. And then Letitia James out of New York has just won a ruling against the NRA. Against LaPierre,

specifically, and he's got to pay back money or something. But it really is obvious that the political apparatus, the judicial apparatus of New York is a political weapon right now. That's it. Letitia James tweeted out

something like $462 million. Basically, every day that Trump doesn't pay, the number is going up $87,500. He's got, I think, what, like 27? No, not even. He's got like, what, like 23 days left to pay or something like that? So, and if he doesn't, they said they're going to move to seize his building.

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friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and CPAC is Ben Q. Good evening who are you what do you do i'm a conservative journalist uh work for red state at the moment and that's about it there you go also uh cpac is going on right now yeah it's been a bit thin on the ground this year unsurprising unsurprising yeah I mean they've had some great speakers and they they're having some great speakers I mean Trump's gonna be there well Trump always speaks but they've had who KD of else that was that was great yeah yeah he was treated like a rock star although there was a protest despite the, 90% support he has in El Salvador, if you go to my Twitter,

you will see that there were some people protesting outside the Gaylord, the hotel where it's held, saying he was a dictator. Wow. Well, should be interesting. Thanks for hanging out. We got Phil Labonte.

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I am the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains of an Anti-Communist and Counter-Revolutionary. And we're here withonte. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I am the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. And we're here with Hannah Clare. Hey. Hi.

I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow. I'm a writer for scnr.com. That's Scanner News. I'm a huge fan of the smoke monster that's in this video. I wish Kent would make it so it would float above me while I'm on the show all the time. I think it should be everywhere and in every music video from now on.

Serge is here. Apparently the way thatent made the demon in that video like okay watch eyes of advice at a certain point you you like okay so like slight spoiler alert but uh in the beginning you see eyes within a door and a hand reaches out and then later the demon comes out but i won't i don't i won't want to say how he did it just yet because if he actually releases the b-roll it's amazing but seeing how he made it i think people will really really want to see how you make a video like this so but anyway yeah serge is here yep he doesn't have a mic he's just no i just threw it up already what's up guys all right well let's talk about the news ladies and gentlemen the u.. military is tracking another balloon. Pentagon scrambles jets to investigate high-altitude object of unknown origin over Colorado.

A balloon? What if it's not a balloon? What if it's an alien? Or an alien jellyfish? We just did this. We did this like a year ago, almost exactly a year ago over Montana. Did we learn nothing from the plot of that movie? I don't understand.

I think this is hilarious. It's, it's not a surprise. I'm a little surprised that the feds have not done anything that the military hasn't scrambled it to actually take it down. You might make the argument that oh it's probably a financial loser to to knock it out of the out of the sky but that doesn't change the fact that it's a it is a an election year and joe biden is uniquely unpopular he's got his he's got some of the lowest approval records uh ratings in in recent history

definitely and to just allow it to go over the u.s after the last time so we got bad to me tubberville selling stock optics bezos is selling stock zuckerberg is selling stock and with this question from um quiver quant is the quiver quantitative on on twitter they had this video where they're like why why are these people dumping these stocks? You know, some of these people in Congress, they know what's about to happen because they're passing these bills. And I'm kind of like, yeah, you know, maybe their strategy is that Trump just wins and they're going to destroy the market. So that's their plan. To bring it into this, like the reason they don't care about the balloons, they don't care about Biden's polling, is that they've resigned him to defeat them. Well, I know why Jeff Bezos

sold his stock, because he's moved to Florida, and he doesn't want the capital gains tax, I think, of Washington. Oh, that's interesting. But why sell? I mean, if he moved to Florida, then he's already avoided it. Well, yeah, but maybe he was looking to cash in his chips, I don't know.

In Florida with no income tax. He moved to Florida, no income tax, cashes out chips. Yeah, but if he sold them in Washington, he would have incurred a lot. There's income tax. That's what you got to do. Is it income or capital gains tax? Income tax. Oh, right.

Well, for stock, it could be, it depends. It would probably be capital gains. Yeah, I think it would be capital gains but uh typical jeff bezos isn't well i mean i don't know a lot about jeff bezos but typical of a democrat to move to florida reap all the benefits uh yeah i do feel like there is there is a certain amount of truth uh to the idea that once you once you become a billionaire the the normal republican and democrat kind of ideologies become less important. And you're more concerned about conserving your wealth regardless of who's actually in power. I don't get it.

I really don't get it. Like, I don't know what these people want to do with that money. I don't know what you would do as a human being with $5.6 billion. Well, he's got a lot more than that. No, but that's what he cashed out. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Like, what do you do with that human being with $5.6 billion. Well, he's got a lot more than that. No, but that's what he cashed out. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Like, what do you do with it?

I'm not kidding. Like, I just genuinely don't get it. Look, we've rented big boats in Miami, and it's like six grand to rent an 80-footer or whatever. It could be. What do you do with more than that? Well, the thing is, I- Well, Bezos has that new wife

fiance she has to wear like the multi-million dollar engagement ring the thing is he has a girl suspended I'm sorry but she is she is gross I imagine I'm sorry to say but I imagine if you're taking out that kind of money there's some kind of business that you're trying like maybe he's gonna maybe he's got to give money to

um what is it the his his rocket company. I forget the name of the company. Blue Origin, I think. Blue Origin, yeah. Has to give money to Blue Origin for something. Yeah, or something like that. Maybe he's using it to fund something else.

I don't think that he... I mean, maybe he's buying a yacht, but I mean... I suppose if you want to go to space. Like, I suppose going to space. You know? You want to... Like, Elon, I get that. I'm kind of surprised he wants to sell

washington post because he does yeah well that was the story at one point but they are losing well in fairness to him they're losing 100 million a year yeah and i respect the fact that he is basically saying i'm not going to subsidize this however if i were in his position um being a kind of machiavellian tyrant i would want to to own the Washington Post so I could, you know. I think that's why he bought it in the first place, right? So why is he getting rid of it? Because it's losing too much money. Because he was being attacked by the people he was trying to control.

Communism is not a functioning business model. And so he's thinking, if I buy this, I'm the boss. I'm in charge. And then i can control the influence and then what happens the communists start banging their heads on the wall and he's like i can't make them do anything they don't understand compensation look oh with the uh union the union it's not even about the union it's you go to these people and say look i'm the boss i run the company right okay i am paying you a hundred thousand a year to write the articles

the company wants written. And they go, no. And he's like, well, I'm going to fire you. They go, you can't fire me. You're, oh, yo, we're going to complain and go protest.

And then he's like, oh, geez. Well, they're entitled. I mean, this is typical kind of liberal elitist attitude. Don't hire communists. Don't hire communists. Yeah, I mean, they may. Best advice you'll ever hear.

You can call them communists, I guess. The Washington Post employees are communists. He's definitely not a communist. No, and he bought a company that hired a bunch of communists. Yeah, I mean, they may. Best advice over here. You can call them communists, I guess. The Washington Post employees are communists. He's definitely not a communist. No, and he bought a company that hired a bunch of communists. And now he's like, what am I supposed to do with this? They don't work and they don't care about compensation. I wonder if there are, I wonder how many actual journalists out there nowadays are not somehow left-leaning and sympathetic to socialism. And we're on some.

93%, I think, the stats recently. Is it really? Have you saw some? Yeah, it you that high that's like concern is a minority i'm so excited it's it's just it's so ridiculous to think that that an entire industry should have the same politics and also be charged with keeping the government honest which is allegedly you know ostensibly the role of a free press is to you know keep the powerful held to account that's not happening at all it is exclusively keeping political opponents of the existing power structure at bay uh right it was about questioning the narrative that the government put forward and now it's more more likely that they're just amplifying the talking points at the White House.

Well, the CIA learned real quick. They were like, why do we have these people telling our secrets? Let's just own them. If you look at the people that go on Morning Joe, if you really want to know who is making the decisions and stuff, not that you should agree with these people, but if you want to see who's making decisions like at State Department, at the Council on Foreign Relations, at, you know, at the, at Davos, et cetera, if you want to see those people and hear them talk without going to

their TED Talks or watching their Davos stuff, just watch Morning Joe. They have people that are CIA, former CIA, they have the intelligence apparatus on all the time, they have the FBI, the security apparatus on all the time. Those are the FBI, the security apparatus on all the time. Those are the people that go in and talk. You'll hear all the talking points and you'll get a really good idea of what the bureaucracy is thinking just by watching Morning Joe and listening to what they say. Because for the most part, they generally tell you, you know. I think if you're starting a company, you should have a test where you ask them what two plus two equals. And if they put five,

you do not hire them. People are going to be like, what? And then you're going to be like, it's a test. And then they might think, I should put five to prove a point. And then you're like,

you can leave the office. You are an insane person. It's sad that we have to come to that, though. Like, that everything is so warped that we have to start testing people to like that everything is so warped that we have to start testing people to whether or not they can state the truth i mean call me optimistic but once upon a time it didn't have to be like this that's because you had people that agreed on the general narrative of what the country was yeah for the most part you know up until about the 80s 90s

but it's not just that it's they are literally saying two plus two equals five yeah okay yeah i'm not i'm not arguing that because they're not again this is something that i talk about what i believe that i believe so i i think legitimately and genuinely that there are like histrionic there are um a general plethora of variety of mental illnesses, neurodivergence as it were, who are loud and online and have, with, you know, with disturbed like fervor,

pushed their way into positions of, it's not even right to say positions, like they scream really loud. And normally when the guy was on the side of the road yelling the end was nigh, you drove past him. The left definitely attracts like those, those personality traits more neurotic more uh you know because that's the that's the message that they're sending the the world is ending we

need to you know we need to worry about the climate change and we need to worry about uh you know the the fascists and the earth is going to burn and etc etc they tend to attract the neurotic and they can enforce compliance through fear yeah exactly which neurotic star is on but you see it this was what was interesting to me about the military or this balloon story is that the press immediately ran it as it is a military balloon we're gonna we're gonna engage with and that was the government's position whereas the last time this happened they were like it's a we don't know what it is. UFO weather balloon.

We don't know where it is. I strongly believe that it's because it's an election year. Yeah. Strongly believe that. When was the Chinese spy balloon story? That was February of last year. It floated over Montana. And then eventually, you know, when it crossed the U.S., they were like, we took it down.

No worries. Good for us. But this year they're like, it's military. We're engaging with it. It's very different. I mean, if you are the American people, either they have learned

from the fact that the Americans were frustrated or, you know, they want the narrative to be like, we are more engaged in active government,

whereas last year they were trying to pretend like they weren't being threatened by China as blatantly as they were. I just, how any person you know no no hold on let me pause this is why i say they're mentally ill okay and i'm not trying to be mean to

them i'm trying to point out a very serious affliction this country is dealing with anybody who says they support joe biden at this point is is part of a group of people who are suffering some kind of cognitive deficiency well i put it more down to ignorance a lot of them no no i mean how many people i've met cognitive deficiency i've met a lot of basically decent people right who are democrats or leftists or whatever let's just say joe biden voters and the overwhelming impression i have of them is that they're ignorant they don't really and they come out outright and say, I'm such a big supporter of Joe Biden?

Maybe not, but they vote for him. Well, okay, so anybody who is supporting Joe Biden has a cognitive deficiency. I tend to agree. Because anyone you ask who actually says, I'm going to vote Democrat, will outright be like, I get it. Like, I know Joe Biden's busted and

messed up, but I don't like Trump. Okay, I get that. But there are people who in polls say, I think Joe Biden's doing a great job. I'm like, something is wrong upstairs. It is weird seeing how many people will respond to these things being like, I think the country is on the right track. This is good. That is a small proportion, to be fair. It's the dude riding the atomic bomb in Dr. Strangelove. Those are people getting a call from the pollster and being like,

it's great. Everything's great. Stay the course. There are people that as long as they themselves are not suffering, they will reject the idea that the people they prefer are failing or that there are people that are suffering. And it gets more acute the more financially successful the people are obviously if you're making 250 grand a year and you're not struggling uh you know and

and you can pay for all the things that you could pay for last year you might notice that things are more expensive but it doesn't hurt the same way that it does to someone that's making 80 or 70 grand a year so it matters let's talk about what's going on. We have this tweet from J.D. Vance, who quoted me when I said Google is rigging the 2024 election. He says long overdue, but it's time to break Google up. This matters far more than any other election integrity issue. The monopolistic control of information in a society resides with an explicitly progressive technology company. You can't break google up it

is a singular search engine what do you break them into you can okay adwords their advertising market adsense their advertising payout market youtube gmail you break those apart google still owns search however i want to get into what is happening and not just about breaking google up but i will agree with you. Google is a very serious problem. So this is a tweet we we covered yesterday. All sides dot com checked the media bias of Google and found 63 percent of stories over two weeks were from left wing sources. It's worse than that.

They also checked the other news aggregators, which are substantially smaller. But take a look at this. Based on content, online content only. Yahoo News, left-leaning. Bing, left-leaning. Apple, left-leaning. Google, left-leaning. Smart News, left-leaning.

Newsbreak, left-leaning. Drudge Report is actually left of center. Oh, yeah. Drudge is still considered in the center according to all sides but on the far left side of it and then all sides of course is listing themselves as a news aggregator in the center there's no right wing even real clear politics is only centrist any right wing at all any right leaning at all is considered extreme right to the left the left dictates the narrative right now anybody to the right of them to the right of essentially we're getting to the point where it's it's it's

not hyperbolic to say communists like there are socialists in new york city's uh legislature in their in their in new york state's legislature there there are socialists dsa members those are actual communists like this stuff is being this stuff is being accepted and you look at what's happening to new york you look at the way that the the migrants are being traded uh treated the illegal immigrants are being treated you look at the way that the crime is is going you look at all of the trends everything is trending in a bad direction and they are going to continue to elect socialists this is what happens when you try to institute socialist extreme left-leaning policies but this is what the news aggregators look however for whatever reason they are rigging the 2024 election by shifting the conversation as

far left as possible yeah and so uh google gemini being the big story an example is uh we talked about it the other night on the show asked it about ahmed arbery and what did it say he was jogging and then when i corrected it and said that was never part of the case, it said, you are absolutely correct. It was never actually proven or stated that he stated that he actually was jogging. You are right. I'm like, then why did it say that Ahmaud Arbery was jogging, even though it knew because they are forcing it to push lies? And then we had when we had a Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks on the Culture War podcast, he actually thought Ahmaud Arbery was jogging.

He was not. Even conservatives believed it. The left continues to be informed by a narrative about almost every important story that you hear. And the narrative is just factually wrong. You know, whether it be Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin or Kyle Rittenhouse or the whole hands up, don't shoot or whether whatever policy the right is proposing. They always have like, don't say gay. You're not allowed to say the word gay in the state of florida this is something that is consistent it is every single issue if you are a

an informed person and actually spend the time to look into the issues every single issue the narrative that the left believes is a lie and they act like it's the truth well they act like the truth uniformly and part of it you have to give them credit is that they've mastered uh large-scale messaging right they're able to spin faster than anyone else they're able to say this bill no matter what you think is actually bad for you don't let anyone believe you otherwise obviously they have an advantage because they control most mainstream publications so they're able to get a uniform messaging message out faster. That's why you see, I mean, there are some great,

you guys have probably seen them too, video clips of news anchors from different TV stations also using the exact same term. That's Sinclair. Yeah. That video is Sinclair, which is considered to be a conservative network. And so that's actually a really great example

of how the left falls for these things. So you guys may have seen it originally with Deadspin. And it's a video of all these local news anchors saying this is very dangerous to our democracy. And they're like Deadspin. The left was criticizing Sinclair Broadcasting, which they viewed as a conservative conglomerate buying up local news to shift the narrative away from the left. The right agreed with whatever the left was saying on the issue. I remember seeing and being like, ha, that's how the news operates a top-down narrative i don't really care all that much a bunch of guys got got copy from from central hq and then they read a

script it's not as crazy but that's the narrative the left was saying sinclair had taken over and everybody everybody marches in lockstep. Yeah. And to your point about what to do about Google, whether or not breaking them up is on the table. Yeah. Whether or not that's the case, something does need to be done. I don't know what it is. And this is something that the people that regulation. Yeah. Libertarians are not going to like this at all but especially seeing as like you know if you if you regulate it and then the power is is retained by your political opponents you know i don't know negative negative algorithmic regulation i don't

know that i have the answer so if there's someone that has an answer i have the answer for you right now what is it it is negative regulation meaning Google will not be allowed to do certain things. You don't mandate them to do certain things. You mandate things they cannot do. And it's not, so you don't say something like, you know, we talked about this with social media censorship and it's like, right, all you have to do is say, you cannot create algorithms to display content.

Now, I don't know that that would actually make the platforms more fun to use, but then they can't pick winners and losers. And so we're not saying you, you have to do X, which results in one side having power. If we said, you know, you have to have fair and balanced. So we're going to regulate, regulate it that you have to use our sources too. That's like, aha, now I can get in power. I'll take that and I'll make it do my sources next. No, no, no. We make it so you can't do any of it. Google no longer is allowed to make algorithms that select based on the website themselves. And if somebody tries to

manipulate the algorithm or whatever, then get rid of it altogether. Now the search has to have some kind of algorithm. It has to, but you can make it as rudimentary as possible. When they're banning things off YouTube, the regulation is really simple. Everything's reverse chronological. So non-algorithmic feeds and we're good. So here's a point for you just making, you know, you ask what you can do. One of my biggest criticisms of Trump under the his last presidency is the biggest issue facing him. And one of the reasons why he didn't end up back in the White House was because of Google and obviously Facebook and the rest of them. And this is something he will have to do if he gets back into office.

And maybe I'm wrong here. Maybe on an executive level there's not much he can do, but I'm sure there is. But over the course of his presidency, he really did not do anything to rein in the social media companies. No. And, you know,

if he does get back into office, he's going to have to do that. But the problem he's facing is... Well, what could he do to rein in social media companies? Well, I'm not a constitutional expert, so I'm not sure what he could do on an executive level nothing i'm sure he could do something he can threaten funding to states that harbor companies but then he's going to get sued and lose in the supreme court before anything gets enacted and what about if he gets his

attorney general to target google on the variety of violations that they're- So this is where we get into the don't ask for powers you don't want your enemies to have. Yeah. If Donald Trump says to his AG, perhaps they're doing constitutional violations, let's go to war, you're saying, okay, well, Democrats will get in and you get war. So fair point, perhaps the Democrats started the war or Republicans started a long time ago and we're already in it. So why not? Sure, I guess. I mean, you look at what Joe Biden's doing right now.

He comes on TV and he's like, Supreme Court said I couldn't forgive student loan debt. So I did it anyway. And it's just like, well, there we are, I guess. And then we're at that point in the fall of the Republic. And then people jump to defend him and say, oh, no, this is fine. And blah, blah, blah. I said something about it the other day. And people were, you know, some friends of mine were like, oh, no, this is fine and blah, blah, blah. I said something about it the other day and people were, you know, some friends of mine were like,

oh no, this is okay. And I'm just like, this is, it shakes my foundation in your ability to be honest. Now guys, we're talking about the bias of Google and the problems that it causes. But I got to say, it's not all bad. Now Ben mentioned that if you ask Google Gemini about Timcast guests,

it gives you a bunch of people who've never been on the show that was actually chat gpt chat gpt did that well so i decided to ask google gemini because google is where you get your facts right i mean you go to google you type you know how many kangaroos are there on the planet's going to give you a number it's going to find it so i said google gemini who are some of the people who have appeared on tim pool show i was surprised to find out that Ron DeSantis, Tulsi Gabbard, Rand Paul, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders, Matt Taibbi, Barry Weiss,

Glenn Greenwald, Crystal Ball, and Sagar and Jetty, Jordan Peterson, Yuval Noah Harari, Jonathan Haidt, Nick Christakis, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Elon Musk, okay, Kanye West, but that one's true, Ethan Klein, Russell Brand, Ben Shapiro, yeah, he was, Nick Fuentes, he did too, Kyle Rittenhouse, yes, and that one's true. Ethan Klein, Russell Brand, Ben Shapiro. Yeah, he was. Nick Fuentes, he did too.

Kyle Rittenhouse, yes. And Caitlyn Jenner. And you know what I thought to myself? This is fantastic. Because Google has asserted as fact, I can sell ads against that and say, hey, if you want to be on, if you want me to sponsor, if you want to sponsor this show and you want me to shout at your company, don't forget Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida, has been on the show according to google

according to all of those people at one time you've all know a harare i'm really surprised i'm sure you would have loved second in command from the world economic forum was sitting here on tim castile thank you google now here's the important thing with google's dominance in the information sphere i was i was asking it about the show and it was smearing me and smearing the show. Controversial, far right, all that stupid garbage. So if you're a regular person

and you go on to Gemini and you say, tell me about his guests, it's going to tell you a whole bunch of weird fake things that are just not true. You've all know her. He's never been on the show.

In fact, it makes me sound really good. What an eclectic bunch of guests we've had on the show. It's saying this year, 2024, all these people we people we on we at google have programmed it this way but in in all seriousness well we are talking seriously but what i am surprised about is what i will give credit to google for is that they do design good products i think that is hard to dispute i mean the interface of gmail youtube all these things are are basically the best uh the best that you can get i'm quite astonished by how bad that is what what it's just produced for you i mean how

difficult would it have been for google to source who had been on your show and not get it wrong but to get like 90 of them wrong i mean that's just astonishing but why did it make it up well i i don't actually see a sinister um element to that i just think it's just totally it's a crap system but let's ask the the basic fact question of why is google's ai making things up because it doesn't know anything better and maybe it's over maybe it's been programmed why does it have the ability to create fake things? Well, I mean, you'd have to ask. It could literally just say, I am unable to answer that question as I do not have a complete list. Instead, it goes, let me just put a bunch of fake names in there.

But I mean, again, I'm quite astonished by how bad some of these chat GPT answers are. I mean, I recently, I was checking how many articles I've written within a certain space of time, like three months. And I said, and I basically kind of copy and pasted a list of them. And I go, can you just tell me how many articles are here? And it was wrong. So you can't even do a basic maths or math. And that's kind of like, that's really one of the things that makes a, an AI desirable is the goal that these companies essentially tell you that they're, they're working towards is you can be like, Hey, get me a flight to blah, blah, blah on this time or on this date at this time, you know, and book it, blah, blah, blah, and take care of it.

And it'll handle it. And if it can't even get you correct things like how many numbers of things or people that were on a show that is, you know, ostensibly it should be able to just search the list of who's been on and be like, oh, okay, these people have been on. Or it could say, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, that would be the obvious thing, right? And to be fair, it does sometimes say that, I don't know.

And then I say, you do know, tell me. And sometimes they do actually tell me. I mean, this is ChatGPT, I haven't actually tried the Google one. Oh, Gemini is such a laugh riot. Well, they've got, I hear they've got a brilliant text-to-image system going there.

I mean, the problem with all of these is that when they get swapped for a search engine, when people say, oh, I'm researching something, so I'll just use whatever ChapGPT tells me as fact, and they don't verify it themselves, we're going to have circulating bad information. This is already what happens with so many articles where, you know, one blog will say one allegation against a person and then it gets picked up by a slightly bigger medium and then another larger outlet picks it up. And then by that time, you have 50 articles saying, you know, this person said this at this time this person has been accused of this even if it's

not true but it's so deep in the web you're not going to be able to erase it cytogenesis or cytogenesis yeah circulating bad information is going to become more rampant when people rely on who wants to volunteer to read this headline from the New York Post? Woke Google Gemini refuses to say pedophilia is wrong after diverse historical images debacle. Individuals cannot control who they are attracted to. Wrong! Disable! That is definitely deliberate. Okay, that is definitely deliberate.

That's no mistake. That is straight up queer theory. All you need to know about who works at Google. That is queer theory. You could probably find that in a book by. Yo, this is nuts. Gail Rubin. It absolutely.

Google absolutely defending pedophilia. I'm not going to read any of this. It's outright espousing queer theory on pedophilia. Defending it. gonna read any of this it's it's outright espousing queer theory on pedophilia defending it saying labeling all the individuals as as uh evil is wrong and harmful and blah blah blah they are yeah the left has has been defending in in academia the left has been defending pedophilia since at least the 50s the guy who coined uh was who was what's the guy who coined the term gender oh i forget his name but yes he was it was i forget his big defender of it wasn't he was he was he was a defender people like foucault have defended it foucault uh michelle

foucault lobbied the french government to get the age of consent lowered when the age of consent was already 15 years old and he wanted to get it lowered because he was young. Was that in California? No, this is Michel Foucault, the French government. The government of France. And remember, there was the cuties. That was in the 70s or

maybe even 60s. But then there was the cuties thing. Michel Foucault's talked about it. Marc Hughes talked about it in, i think eros and civilization john money yeah john money yeah this is something that gail rubin talks about in thinking sex the the idea that children have purity is something that the left rejects and wants to abolish the way that they want to abolish gender they want to abolish the idea of innocence okay these are real things that the left actually writes entire books and papers and stuff on so this is not like something

that i'm fabricating there are people that will make these arguments in sociology classes and it's a real thing so we are at a point in our civilization where we're having an inability to remove ideological waste products. Yeah. So as everybody communicates and shares ideas, ideological waste builds up in the periphery. On social media, it begins to pile up and pile up and pile up. And I described this for Jack Dorsey. He's a guy who created a network of ideological refuse on X, Twitter, and then piped it straight into his mouth. He was having all of the users shuffle their waste

into his mouth. What I mean by that is he's a guy who came in as a classical liberal, traditional liberal, and said, we are the free speech wing of the free speech party. He created a platform which inadvertently or otherwise promoted ideological waste. These are ideas that are contradictory, that make no sense. Like, why is it that feminists support war? It makes no sense. Why is it that the left is in favor of calling Polish people, people of color? Like these ideas are contradictory.

They clash. They don't make sense. It's because ideas that should probably disappear, like 2 plus 2 equaling 5, get ramped up and absorbed by people like Jack Dorsey, who then recycle that refuse back onto the platform into its code. What we're seeing now with Google Gemini is the epitome of people who have been swimming in the sewers of the internet. Then it's human centipede. OK okay that's the best way to describe it jack dorsey created the human centipede of ideology

and so what comes out the end is google gemini it's it's pretty close i mean i i do note here you said you didn't want to repeat it which is fair enough but they they're using the term minor attracted person status which is the term yeah uh that they are going to use over the next 10 years there's another there's another one that that uh they like which is uh intergenerational relationships oh wow which is a so remember when snapchat said love has no age? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Disagree again. Disavow. Disagree. Disavow. But these things are normal in those circles, and they are going to continue to push these ideas into the mainstream.

Here, check this out. Check this out. This is Ashley St. Clair posted this several years ago. Watch this. 60 seconds. Okay. So Snapchat has this filter. Love has no gender, sexuality, disability, religion, and age.

Why is age an option? I heard pedophiles were trying to get into the LGBTQ community. But did it happen? What do you mean love has no age? Yes. It's been that way. There you go. Welcome to Google.

Wow. But, I mean mean think about it if you're a a an evil individual you are going to try and find ways to get away with evil and so they infiltrate these institutions the argument that they make is that innocence is a construct just like gender is a is a social construct the idea that children are innocent is something that they want to do away with and you hear it from a lot of the uh gender queer uh gender queer sociology people i guess i they call themselves scholars i guess but they're they're just trans people that dress up and look ridiculous but they you know they say things like children are kinky and i forget the person

who said that but there was there was these uh ads going out where they were do you feel like the queer community pushes back against this so i mean i think it's a bifurcation not enough not enough and not enough because most of the queer community doesn't realize how bad it is most of the well what does this work queer mean queer is a politically gay so it's essentially it's it's an it's an identity without an essence so it's not it's not straight it's not gay it is the absence of a sexual identity so it's it's something that changes and it grows and it's it's a very post-modern concept you can't really nail down what queer is and and it so it and it starts to get into things that are like hegelian when it is you're becoming queer like we can never actually be

queer we will only be we can only become we're only becoming queer it's it's the action is the focus but i think i mean we saw this with the gays against groomer movement right there are people who identify as gay lesbian you know whatever who say we don't want to be a part of this those are the people that are not politically left i love it when they're called homophobes and transphobes because logic logic be damned they called larry elder the black face of white supremacy it just it's clayton's big it bigs me like these people have that's why i said they are cognitively deficient their ideas make no sense it is look it's leftism take okay i read about this experiment once it took three families of cats

we like it and uh in in one room this generation was given raw meat in the middle room they were given cooked meat and in the last room they were given dairy dairy products what they found was the cats that were given dairy they kind of did okay you know they had babies and things like that the cats that were given raw meat were flourishing having lots of babies love and life and the cats were given cooked meat slowly started to fail they weren't having as many babies they were getting aggressive some had their hair falling out. And so it's one study, right? But you, but now translate this to information. You have some people who are looking for an health, a healthy information diet. And so they make sure to fact check sources. They listen, they, they, they

hear Donald Trump did something, say, prove it to me, show me the video. They try to be more resilient. Then you have people who are eating ho-hos and ding-dongs of news every single day. What's going to happen to their bodies? Their brains will rot within their skulls. They will literally become morbidly obese and then start promoting body positivity.

Like, I'm just imagining what happens when society breaks into two groups of people one group that is cutting the carbs exercising more and one group that is saying it's totally okay to eat a pint of ben and jerry's every night it's obvious one will survive and one will not yeah one side's aborting their kids one side isn't one side is sterilizing their kid one side isn't one side is trying to fact check and make sure that they know what's going on. The other side isn't. It seems inevitable. One side is asking for constant accommodations and for you to understand, you know, they

don't have the advantages you have, even though you're choosing to live a lifestyle that makes you stronger and better. I think that's the weird fate that our culture is slating our young people to, which is that some will grow up being told you're victims always. And, you know, no matter what, someone's out to get you. And then other people will be taught to be resourceful

and to use critical thinking and to adapt to the circumstances. And it will become a bigger and bigger divide. The question is, is it intentional or is it accidental that there seems to be a mechanism filtering the weak-willed and the ignorant and low IQ into death

and everyone else will, like it's creating, is it natural selection or is it artificial selection? Is it Malthusians who believe the world's overpopulated creating as much pressure on the human population as possible to reduce population?

Or is it just that when a society grows to this size, like the mouse rat utopia experiment, you get this. I think it's rat utopia experiment you get this i think it's rat utopia i think and i don't think that's the size i think it's how successful western society is how easy it is to survive i think the vast majority of the problems that people have even the even the things that are real right the depression and stuff like that like i think that i think that those are a a consequence of our our day-to-day lives being so different than what our psychology evolved to exist in because all of the stuff that's going on in modern in modernity is all brand new compared to you know what we were what

we literally evolved from millions of years through to when we actually became human beings. All of it's new. The idea of being able to control having children and stuff, it's all new and it's reaction to something new. Let me ask you, let me ask you. What do you think would happen if it was like, I don't know, say 1300s and Karl Marx came out

and started advocating for what he was advocating for in these places. The king would chop his head off. Yeah, probably. They'd be like, you are an insane person. Yeah. Something is wrong with you. These are heretical ideas and it would result in the destruction of our kingdom.

He'd go to the king or he'd be writing on his parchment and sharing the ideas. The king would get word when people started adopting this, and he would say, we have barbarians at the gates. We have our neighboring nation threatening to steal our wheat, and you think we should just give it all away? Just off with his head. Yeah.

They wouldn't. So my point with that is when it was hard to survive and winter is coming, nobody would tolerate a person who would advocate ideas which would result in the destruction of your civilization but today what we have is you know i was talking to uh we're having a conversation on the culture war podcast with um chris uh kristin lacefield and she was saying that uh the argument we're kind of having was i i was saying i don't believe that women, you know, several hundred years ago would be advocating for birth control. And the reason why is because if you didn't have babies, you'd die.

Whereas today, human civilization is very far from it. It's so far from population reduction extinction that the real threat is socially overpopulation and overproduction so the narrative now is don't have kids to survive yeah but i'm like if you go back several hundred years the women were like we need more kids and the guy was like i want 12 babies and the mothers would be all laughing at each other about how many babies i mean and the reason for it was simple the women who didn't want to have kids didn't have kids and then didn't exist anymore that's it the ideology could not exist now that we it the ideology could not exist now that we have the industrial revolution exactly militarization police forces security and guns

oil oil absolutely all of these crazy ideas are allowed to exist not that not that anyone should say your idea shouldn't exist it's just that they literally can't in any survival scenario they run into reality so much faster without the modern society and modern foundations that we have everyone likes to talk everyone that's communist likes to talk about oh all these things will happen but when they talk about the negatives of capitalism and stuff they just they describe it in a way as if the the negatives of capitalism don't happen in the absence of capitalism people get happen in the absence of capitalism. People get sick when there's no capitalism.

People don't have clean water when there's no capitalism. People don't have enough food when there's no capitalism. All these things that they blame on capitalism also happen in the absence of capitalism. What do you think would happen if we took 100 communists,

dropped them in the middle of, I don't know, like the Yukon Territory, and said, good luck. I'd find out if I could download the app and become a subscriber to the show. Oh, right. Pink ass checking in on our communist in the Yukon. I shouldn't say the Yukon,

but like, let's say there was an area where it's like, okay, we're going to take a hundred communists and we're going to put them in this temperate climate with some fields and some forests. Good luck. What would happen is communism would be gone in a week. Well, don't forget there's a lot of different types of communists and there are some communists who are incredibly well-trained.

Some communists who are incredibly well-trained for military battle. That doesn't have an impact on whether or not you can find food. Like, you take a hundred people... I mean, communism would evaporate, obviously. So what would happen is a hundred communists put in the middle of nowhere

and the incapable people, they're going to be like, well, look, you're six foot tall, you can reach all the apples, go get the apples for us. And he's like i i cannot do all of this for you well look he's five foot three and overweight he can't get the apples so he's going to sit down and tell us stories you go get the apples he's going to be like no i got the apples i decide and they're going to say that's not how communism works and he's going to say come and take it oh he's gonna this communist guy is gonna look at him and say molan labbe i mean two seconds i am not giving up my food i don't want to starve winter is coming good luck you're on your own

yeah i mean it's the idea that that it would that it would work in absence of the foundation that the you know that the the industrial revolution and our market societies have laid is fanciful all of the communist societies and or socialist societies in history actual socialist societies not just like scandinavia where you get free health care and you know the u.s provides for your security um but actual communist countries like they fall apart because you don't have property rights and people don't you know they can't the the the system doesn't sustain an economy and you have to have something that sustains an economy i want you know you need that liberalism i want to jump to this tweet from uh latisha james the ag of new york she tweeted 464 million 576 thousand two hundred and thirty dollars and 62

cents we know what that means that is the number that they are trying to steal from donald trump you know what's really fascinating is the number that the court prescribed seems to be the amount of money that donald trump has in the bank trump has about 400 and some million dollars in cash. And so they said, you got to give us 400 million. Okay. We know he's got that in liquid cash, do we? This is like the JonBenet ransom note when they asked for exactly her dad's bonus. Right. So this is an argument from the left is that Trump actually has more,

600 to 700, but Trump has stated it's about 400. And they asked for four. I'm sorry. Look, the other story in this is Letitia James just won a case against the NRA official, against NRA officials. This is Wayne LaPierre's libel for $5.4 million and some others. This is the overt, obvious weaponization of the political apparatus of New York. So so listen, what's the off ramp and what happens to a republic when there is no functioning legal jurisprudence in a state and it is simply just a gun? New York state serves as a political gun for Democrats. That it criminals are like they let go illegal immigrants are beating cops and they are using the legal system as a weapon against their political opponents think about what a shit show that yeah it's crazy leticia james called the

the nra a terrorist organization right like she knows exactly who she's out to get she's not investigating fairly she's not trying to protect the people of new york she has a political agenda and she's acting on it full disclosure i think trump's hilarious i absolutely hate the nra and i hate wayne labierre he's a putz but they're still screwing him for, you know, as a, as a political action, where is all about politics? Where is any state, any conservative state,

West Virginia, what are you doing? Oh man. I mean, who's, who's running for AG next? Cause it's Morrissey now, but he's leaving.

Isn't he? Well, Morrissey's running for governor, right? Right. I tweeted this earlier today. Can we get some, like, can Matt Walsh run for AG of West Virginia? I mean, Tennessee's next door.

Indict as many Democrats as you can for whatever you possibly can. But they're doing illegal things! Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying that, it's not like there's like, it's not like if a conservative AG had the balls to actually look and use the power of the government, it's not like if a a conservative ag had the balls to actually look and use the power of the government it's not like he wouldn't have plenty of of stuff to to investigate and indict people on there's absolutely no question about it but they just don't have the courage so

do we know who's running for ag yeah so there are two democrats richie robb and theresa torceva and then john b mccuskey and mike stewart are the republican candidates right now but i tweeted about this this morning we need to have significant lawfare there needs to be significant uh legal attacks against google again for for under civil light rights laws there needs to be massive massive massive amounts of lawfare there needs to be prosecutions investigations every single conservative that is any position that is in any position of power that can investigate some some kind of possible uh breaking of the law they need to do it and they need to do it specifically when it's democrats for political reasons because

that's what the democrats are doing if lawfare is what they want lawfare is what we need to deliver them and we need to deliver them lawfare in as much and as much volume as possible and the end result is obvious isn't it i mean republicans right now are going guys guys we can't do this because think of the escalation that it would cause and it's like dude there is they are literally seizing the president's assets the former president's assets they are trying to put him in prison on false charges they are falsely accusing him of all sorts of untoward things they are going after his children and y'all are like yeah yeah but calm down calm down and the thing is the less the the the less political response you get the more likely someone does

something that everybody doesn't want the more likely some some nutbag decides he's going to grab a gun and go shoot a politician or something like that some idiot does something stupid because the problem those problems arise when people feel like they don't have a political way to to see their complaints uh rectified or or like in the case of the the election where the the courts won't even hear them yeah if the courts don't hear you and you're just disregarded, you are left with no option. Well, I completely agree with you. And if we see the shenanigans in this 2024 election and the Democrat, whoever they might be, maybe Joe Biden will serve successfully until 2029. Who knows? 2029 who knows but um um but uh you know if we get a rerun of 2020 and it ends up in the same way

i think yeah that i think things could get really really ugly so what's stopping morrissey of west virginia from right now doing what leticia james is doing what depends on what you mean so like with the um any any any ngo planned parenthood any ngo that operates in west virginia's borders should be taken to a court and sued into oblivion using all of the state's resources yeah it's interesting because the nra the reason lisa james is able to go after the nra is because they're headquartered in new york and any uh non-profit that's operate that's headquartered in new york is subject to the to uh this jurisdiction of the attorney general they couldn't even move out all national ngos have legal filings in those states

right but so that means morrissey could go after any of these national level ngos sure but like with the nra specifically it's headquartered in new york that's why she's able they can't move it out without the the attorney general to consent to dissolve no no that doesn't matter i'm not saying you're wrong i'm just saying that's one of the unique things yeah i'm not no no but but it's not the the name an ngo that's operating at a national level and they are filed in all states they operate as an organization in all states they are subject to the jurisdiction of all in each individual state yeah i'm just saying that in particular that's one of the reasons that the NRA has specific ties to New York. It makes it slightly different.

I'm not saying that they shouldn't. It doesn't make a difference. It does not make a difference at all. So if you have a nonprofit headquartered in Vermont and you are operating nationally, that means you have filed. Okay, so we have nonprofits, right? That means you go to each state

and file that nonprofit with the state as though you are based in that state. Is this a single entity? It's a single national entity with a federal tax number but each it has to operate it has to file to operate in each state okay okay it's very very difficult so that means if you are Planned Parenthood you are filed to operate in West Virginia and you are subject to the jurisdiction it doesn't matter where you're the difference I suppose is that they might not have they have a bigger building maybe but like Planned Parenthood has offices all over the country

Morrissey could start filing against them in two seconds he could make any claim Alabama right now could go after Planned Parenthood they've got a whole bunch of now laws on the books and was it Alabama that said getting an abortion out of state

is a conspiracy to commit a crime? They could start going after anyone. I thought it was Idaho. I might be wrong though. No, I don't think it was Idaho. Alabama. My point is not any of these things specifically. But there is not a single conservative that is looking at who they have jurisdiction over and doing anything about it. Nope.

Conservatives, they're not doing anything about it nope conservatives are they're they're not doing anything just like you said earlier about the oh you know settle down calm down blah blah blah it is they are not doing what they need to do to protect the country from people that are looking to fundamentally change the structure of the country like the the new thing today was people talking about where natural rights come come from and they're saying oh well your now your rights don't come from the you know your rights come from the government they don't come from you being a person that is something that the left wants because as soon as they can convince people that your rights come from the government, once that is the general consensus, then they're privileges.

Then they are at will. Then there is no more. Then the fact that the Bill of Rights implies that there are rights that exist prior to the government becomes irrelevant because the people just start thinking that their rights come from the government. And that's better than changing any law.

It is. If you can get the narrative in people's heads to change and people to conceptualize their country in a different way, it doesn't matter what the laws are because no one will ever think that you should be brought up on charges when you break the law if people don't think that it's breaking the law.

If people don't think that the government is breaking the law by jail people don't think that the government is breaking the law by jailing a journalist, right? If the government just said, we're going to pick this guy up and toss him in jail and it's fine. If people don't think that that's breaking the law, then there will be no outcry and the government will do whatever it wants.

So if the government can use narrative to control people's thoughts and opinions, the law is totally irrelevant. You can sit there and be like, well, they're breaking the law. They're oppressing me. No one cares. Right. No one cares. And if no one cares, the law doesn't matter. And we live in a country where

it is only a matter of time until the boot starts coming down on people. The law doesn't matter. What matters is culture. Yes. We talk about it all the time. There are blue laws. There are laws in the books that have never been enforced that haven't been enforced in 100 years and so you have in west virginia it is quite literally illegal in i mean you can interpret interpret the laws in so many different ways but having a drag show with children violates like five or six different laws in the state and uh they don't do anything nothing they they they

they let them do it and they clap and cheer as it happens because the culture of berkeley county west virginia doesn't care and perhaps the local prosecutor i guess is a leftist i have no idea so i was talking to this is a little bit of of an aside but i was talking to my nephew uh the older one he's on he's 19 almost 20 now um actually turns 19 in march um and i was talking to my nephew uh the older one he's on he's 19 almost 20 now um actually turns 19 in march um and i was someone had said something that young women are still kind of like enamored with the whole woke thing and young men are totally rejecting it like really really yeah yeah and so i i hit him up because he's a young guy in school i'm like yo what are your friends doing like your your guy friends blah blah you know do they really

do you see this this is what i hear people saying i think i sent him a tweet from someone that said it oh it was scott adams said it and i sent him i was like do you think you know do you think this is is this what you'd see at school and he's like he's like yeah yeah he's like getting an eyewitness account yeah you know if you if you've got people that you know they're bears so i i hit up my you know and they're smart kids so they're they're not they're like my sister's definitely a normie she's a bank manager and she's very you know she's she's not very involved in politics so she's not actively against trump or anything or against people she's just not really involved but she's very much normally and so like they are not raised to have a a you know right-wing opinion so it's really interesting to see what they think and they see it they're like look yeah

we see it they see and they're like the kids now like the racism is like there's racism is definitely making a comeback among young people there there's a lot a lot of racist jokes that you think would be off limits or that well well, that are off limits, like young gen X. But that makes them want to do it. Exactly. I mean, if you're going to say, don't do that, what are teenagers going to do? The exact thing you're saying, you're saying they shouldn't.

I worked at an all girls boarding school way back in the day. You know, basically, well, it was like 2019. I was working there and the girls school, when they told me about going into the election and they were saying you know we had we had canceled classes because they're all expecting to have a day off to celebrate hillary and then they had to have they had baked like all these cupcakes like it was a whole thing and then they had this i remember the students telling me he's like i was we're really grateful we did that because it was a very emotional day for our students than the day after the election that is really like santa

did not come like six-year-old santa just didn't show up like right and there was just like a small group of girls who had been pro-trump the whole time again it's a small school so they know who it is and the school talking about them would act like they were these terrible terrible kids like they were disruptive because terrible kids like they were disruptive because they supported I mean they kept saying that he won

it wasn't that Sen didn't come it's that Krampus did even better right and so we're laughing like we didn't do anything like we're happy

you know whatever man I can't believe that guy won what a wild night it was extremely fun yeah wow never forget it never forget everyone remembers exactly where they were when that happened What a wild night. It was extremely fun. Yeah, wow. Never forget it. Never forget.

Everyone remembers exactly where they were when that happened. Mm-hmm. You want to know where I was? Yes. Venezuela. Wow. And what was your reaction? What did Venezuela think of this?

Well, I don't know what Venezuela thought of it. Actually, Venezuela was pretty happy. In fact, Donald Trump was very popular in Venezuela because the regime in Venezuela is really unpopular. And, you know, Trump was sanctioning Maduro and trying to get Maduro out. But no, I mean, I'll never forget that night. It was something special. In fact, it was difficult to kind of take it all in because it was all happening so fast. You didn't have time to kind of enjoy, bathe in the glory of it.

The best Maduro moment ever is when he's giving that national address and then pulls an empanada out of his drawer and then eats it. Yo, what? I haven't seen that. I used to cover Venezuela. Do you feel like the UK has their own Trump figure right now? Because I feel like there have been a couple people who have risen to notoriety, but no one quite rivals it. I've never seen this. We've never seen it.

That is funny. Dude, you couldn't wait 30 seconds to finish your national address before eating the empanada? It's big empanada. They're paying him to do this. Big empanada. They're paying him to do this. Big Empanada. Look, Venezuela is what happens when low cognitive function and evil people are left unchecked. Yeah. You get your leader, while your nation is starving, he's eating an empanada on TV. And he's still there.

What's to happen? A bus driver with no experience well you want to know what's interesting about venezuela is that actually venezuela the venezuelan economy has actually grown quite a bit in the last two three years because he's had to just give up on the currency so it's all dollarized and um he's had to you know remove all the price controls he's had to lift a load of tariffs. So Venezuela is actually doing a lot better than it was. It's still in a terrible place, obviously. You know what he should do?

He should make Bitcoin legal tender in Venezuela. Well, that's what Bukele has done. Yeah. No, Bukele is quite an inspiration, actually. I mean, it's quite ugly. What did you think of his speech at CPAC? I've got to be honest, I didn't watch it, because I kind of know the kind of thing he said.

But what I will tell you about is he absolutely schooled a BBC journalist the other day. And the journalist was saying, oh, you know, all these innocent people. And to be fair, there will be innocent people in El Salvador who have been imprisoned. Of course. And that's sad. You can't help it. But that happens in America. That happens in the UK.

That happens everywhere. But to think, just to think that, I don't know the precise statistics, but I think it's 90, 95%. To think that you could go out right and get murdered so easily and now these streets are completely safe i mean that's an incredible achievement a really incredible achievement and no matter even though that there are people that like innocent people that end up getting you know scooped up and stuff there's not going to be a lot of people that are going to complain oh no they love him it's like they love him they absolutely love him and this is you know it's funny you were bringing up uh you were talking about drudge being

kind of left of center i mean i'm absolutely disgusted by drudge nowadays and i noticed they put a headline although i do read it sometimes and they put up a headline you know calling him a dictator i mean it's just unbelievable did they did he get bought by the cia is that what happened well actually you know it's funny it's funny because. Did he get bought by the CIA? Is that what happened? Well, actually, you know, it's funny. It's funny because conservatives think he's this hardline conservative, but he isn't. He actually comes from El Salvador's more socialistic party. I think he's kind of a maverick.

And he's also... Bukele does? Yeah. Sorry? Bukele does? Bukele does, yeah. Oh, I was talking about Drudge. Oh, Drudge.

That was Drudge bought by the CIA. Oh. Why would Bukele buy it? Well, actually, I mean, that's a good question. You might have a better view on this. I mean, and I know it's a very, you know, people have talked about it a lot, but what actually happened? Did he sell it or has he just gone off the rails?

What do you think? My instinct is that he hasn't sold it, but I might be wrong. I mean, I really don't know. You mean like a private sale happened no one knows about? Yeah, because he's a very secretive guy. I mean, he was a very strange figure. And he would keep that kind of thing private. You're talking about Drudge?

Yeah. And he is obsessed with Trump. And he's also very anti-Elon Musk as well. Why is he anti-elon musk because he's a liberal now i mean i don't know what's going on there i i mean i i just don't well i mean i do understand and i do see it just it's it's still my gut reaction is still surprising for people to be like oh i don't like elon musk because of the things that he says on Twitter. It's like all of this history of him doing actual things that you loved up until he bought X.

Right. You know, and came- He started talking to the wrong people. Essentially started looking at the country and saying, hey, look, I don't like the things that I'm seeing with the government being too, you know, trying to be too authoritarian. And like, he notices that and

starts making starts speaking about it and then it's like oh he's now he's officially just a total bad person and and deserving of as much uh animosity i think it's okay to be skeptical people right like he's an extremely wealthy man who now controls all kinds of things like yeah you know don't just make anyone an idol. But I do think that there is weirdly this switch that happened where they said, well, you bought X and so now you're the enemy. And that, to me, seems such like a histrionic response. Well, to be fair, I mean, I'm a big fan of Elon

and I love what he's done with X. But I have noticed he's become quite partisan. And I don't actually think that that is necessary. In what way, though? Well, he's just pushing Republicans and conservatives on Twitter, which I love. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You've got to break that down.

What do you mean? Well, he's fighting all our arguments for us on the border, on censorship, on corruption. Those are only conservative. I think that's a leftist narrative, what you're saying. Yeah, but I can understand. The point I was going to make

was that I think he, I don't think he's foolish for doing this, but I think that if, I think he... No, no, no, I'm going to push back. Okay. Elon Musk is not partisan. The the idea and claim that he is is a leftist talking point to to legitimize communist and marxist ideas elon musk saying things that every american believed in 10 years ago as to the foundational principles and the the solidification and preservation of the republic are american

ideas regardless of liberal or conservative to say now that elon musk promoting ideas that we tend to agree with makes him partisan is to legitimize the leftists claim that they are a legitimate wing of american politics well they're not progressives and their ideas like every democrat in 2019 raised their hand that they would open the borders every single one of them and they also raised their hand that they would open the borders. Every single one of them. And they also raised their hand when they said, would you give free healthcare to the Uyghur aliens? They said, and Elon Musk responded to that tweet that I put out when I posted that video. And of the video that Badia Anger Sargon posted

about them wanting open borders. If you believe in having a secure border, that is a normal, of the road american position that even hillary clinton was calling for a border barrier in 2008 to like 2012 now what we have is communists who are trying to legitimize the idea that it's actually a partisan position to destroy the country and they had great success pushing those ideas forward through social media in in the 2020 cycle elon musk isn't coming out and saying industry should have this this tax rate and he's not coming out and saying pro-life or otherwise he's not coming out and saying

everyone should donate to the rnc republicans are the greatest political party but what we're looking at right now is you have uh phil's not a conservative i'm not a conservative hannah claire you're probably a conservative we We actually are a range of spectrum around left and right. Elon Musk would be somewhere in between and arguing with us. So it's not partisan at all. But what's happened now is the left is trying to legitimize the idea that their psychosis is legitimate politics. So my point is simply this. The meme that Elon Musk posted exemplifies it pretty well. There's a left and a right in this country and Elon is center politics. So my point is simply this. The meme that Elon Musk posted exemplifies it pretty well.

There's a left and a right in this country and Elon is center left. Then the far left comes out and says the most deranged psychotic things and claims they're the actual left, which moves the middle and puts Elon now in the right wing position. Elon Musk is a leftist.

Elon Musk has complained about climate change. Elon Musk has talked about climate change. Elon Musk has talked about like progressive tax policy. Elon Musk holds tons of traditional liberal positions. Elon Musk voted for Joe Biden. Or at least so he says. Probably.

There you go. Elon Musk has posted tons of things where conservatives have criticized him for holding liberal ideas. He's not being partisan by saying, I believe in thing that would keep America functioning unless the argument is the legitimate politics of this country are whether the country

should exist or not exist. I certainly understand the left holds those those views that the United States should not exist, but I don't believe it's a legitimate political discussion for a country to say, I hereby vote the country doesn't exist. No, you're an invasive force trying to destroy us. The legitimate conversation of this country is, we all agree we should preserve this country, let's make it work. We're at war, however, in a cold civil war, whatever you want to call it. Elon Musk saying things that would make this country function is normal discourse. Well, I think I take Elon as well. I don't agree that he's center-left. I think I take him at his word when he says he's a social liberal and an economic conservative well he's fiscal conservatism I mean that is

social social liberal fiscal conservatives is traditional democrat which is American center left yeah okay well that's a that's a interesting way of looking at I don't necessarily disagree but um but that so so when you look up the academic terms right this was big when everyone said I'm a classical liberal I'm a classical liberal, I'm a classical liberal. And I kept saying, no, you're not. Classical liberal means libertarian in American politics. Social liberal is close to Bernie Sanders. And traditional liberal is center left libertarian.

So I've got a question for you about that. Yeah. You have said in the past that you liked Bernie. Yep. And I see Bernie as everything we're railing against because Bernie is as close to a communist or socialist as Bernie Sanders 2016 is not Bernie Sanders and a lot of people do say that but I think that's overstated because he's he's always been very socially progressive and he's always been very socially progressive and he's always been, you know, very economically left wing. And I think that's undeniable.

And he jumped off the cliff. Yeah. I mean, did he ever really advocate like, you know, controlled immigration? Open borders is a Koch brothers proposal, he said, in 2015. You cannot have open borders. The World Socialist website called him a nationalist capitalist for saying, I think in 2018, something like, oh, my God, no, we can't have open borders. Everybody would flood this country. It can't work. That's Bernie Sanders.

And then what happened is he realized he could be a millionaire and that who cares? What's the point? I think he's that cynical. I mean, how many houses do you own? A three? Yeah. I mean, he's a rich man. He's a rich man. I think he's less cynical and more a party person. And he's like, well, I can make money and I'm going to do what the party says.

I think that he's more of a party pawn than an idea guy. A lot of Trump supporters were originally Bernie supporters. That is true. But I've always found that very strange. But it makes perfect sense when Bernie Sanders in 2015 and 2016 is saying, we need to help blue-collar workers, we need to bring back manufacturing, we need to secure our borders,

we need better trade agreements, and they're all going, this Bernie guy makes a lot of sense. But do you really believe if Bernie had become president in 2016, America... Two questions. Do you think America would be... Would A, have secured its borders, and B, be on the right track? No, because Bernie Sanders is a pathetic, weak coward. And that's why he lost. That's why the Democrats steamrolled him.

Well, they kind of stole it from him, to be fair. Yeah, because he's a pathetic, weak coward. And he whimpered and cried and he said, I'll just take the billion dollars and I'll go crawl away. And Donald Trump was the bull who smashed through the doors and said, don't F with me. It's also fair to take into account the fact that people that used to like Bernie, like when they saw what the Democrats did to Bernie, that has something to do with the fact that they no longer like the Democrats. Like if they left, if they were like, yeah, I like Bernie and blah, blah, blah. and they saw that the way the democrats treated bernie it might be like oh wait a minute they're not nearly as as much they're not better than the republicans like i thought they were the democrats are just as bad so it doesn't matter if i go to the republicans i was in i was in anaheim and there were three people an older guy and two younger guys they were hanging out it was outside

of a trump rally and And I asked these guys, what are they doing? You know, why do they support Trump? And they said, actually, they were Bernie supporters. The older guy was like a factory worker. He had been in a union his whole life. The younger guys were fairly progressive,

but they were friends with the older guy. I don't know. They might've been related. And they said, look, we want Bernie. We think that he's got the experience in D.C. His consistency says to us that he means what he says. And we think he'll fight for the things he's talked about. And he's advocating for the union worker, the factory worker, the manufacturing base.

He's advocating to secure our borders and get rid of this, you know, the Koch brothers proposals. And when the DNC destroyed him, Donald Trump was our only choice. Shortly after meeting them, they were physically attacked by far leftists outside the Trump rally. And they were chased, smacked, and spit on. And they were, and these guys were, this is Anaheim, yeah, these guys were like former Bernie guys. I mean, I think part of it as well is I look at the most dangerous people in America, Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and they're all Bernie people. And I just find it, I've always found it very difficult to square the eye. And you're absolutely right, of course, that a lot of Bernie people went over to vote for Trump and everything.

But I've always found it very difficult, very difficult idea to square that you can somehow transition from being a Bernie fan to being a Trump fan because they are ultimately very, very different. Their campaign policies were very much the same in 2015 and 16. Yeah, I mean, I'd have to. I have not seen evidence. I'm sure it exists, but I have not seen him talk about securing the borders. But I think he may have. It reminds me of 2016, February 8th from NPR. Five ways Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump are more alike than you think.

I think it's one of those things like West Virginia was a blue state for years and years and years. It always elected old school Democrats. Right. And I think in some ways people forget that the Democratic Party has gone through a ton of change. Something that is in borders or a level of immigration, we permit even up to the up to a level of open borders Something that is in borders. Level of immigration we permit, even up to a level of open borders, about sharply increasing Open borders?

Open borders. That's a Koch brothers proposal. Really? Of course. I mean, that's a right-wing proposal which says, essentially,

there is no United States. But it would make a lot of global poor richer. Excuse me. It would make everybody in America poor. Then you're doing away with the concept of a nation state.

And I don't think there's any country in the world which believes in that. If you believe in a nation state or in a country called the United States or UK or Denmark or any other country, you have an obligation, in my view, to do everything we can to help poor people. What right-wing people in this country would love is an open border policy.

My, how things have changed, ladies and gentlemen. There's Bernie Sanders saying with an open border, you will get poorer. And what is Joe Biden doing? Please share this clip of Bernie Sanders. It's right when it starts, Ezra Klein asks him. And in the first minute he says, immigration will Klein asks him. And in the first minute, he says, immigration will make you poorer. And now ask everybody why.

Do you support Joe Biden? You do. Why do you hate Bernie Sanders? Because Bernie Sanders said this almost 10 years ago, eight years ago now. What he says at the end there is wrong, though. He says that right-wing people

want an open border. Back then, he wasn't wrong. And this is why... Yeah, okay, the Romney-McCain wing of the party, I agree with you, but I don't consider them... Yeah, they want cheap labor to come in. I don't consider them right wing.

I consider them sort of, well, they're neocons above everything else. And that's who had dominated the Republican Party. And that's why people like me didn't care for either party. And then when Trump came in, I just thought it was all a whole bunch of BS. I'm like, another guy, I ain't falling for it. I fell for Obama.

I'm not falling for it again. And then Hillary Clinton lost, and I laughed my ass off and had a good time and then 2020 came around and i was like trump deserves another four years no new wars everything else is stamp collected these people come to me and they're like but trump did this i'll be like he did what well trump said grab him by the pussy i'll go. How many people did not get blown up because Donald Trump was president? So let me make a choice. I don't know. Joe Biden and we've got Syria ramping up. We've got war in the Red Sea.

We've got war with the Red Sea Houthi rebels. Iran back, Iranian backed militias. We've got war in Israel. The U.S. is supporting all of it and Ukraine. Or grab him by the pussy. I think I know which one. I'm taking. I do believe that if Trump gets back into office, he will

bring an end to the Ukraine conflict. It may come with a price. I mean, I'm more sympathetic to Ukraine than I am to Russia, but I used to be. Now I hate Ukraine with a passion. It's not so much that I have any particular affection for Ukraine

as much as I think that Putin ultimately supports communism around the world, and I'm an anti-communist. I mean, look, if you look in the news recently, he bought Kim Jong-un some kind of car as a gift. Now, you could say, oh, that's smart, 4D chess, diplomacy. But, I mean, Kim Jong--un as far as i'm concerned is like i mean the we sanctioned russia we we block their trade we block swift payment from russia and it failed and ukraine and ukraine robs us zolensky steals from us he steals from a lot of countries well he certainly does and he's stealing from us

and so you know what putin's a bad guy who has interests that are absolutely opposed to our interests he's not a good person he is a very very bad person okay ukraine's robbing the american people and and our crackpot corrupt politicians are in on it despicable evil people and zelensky with a smile on his face, keeps saying, give me more. Give me more. And our politicians are like, sure thing. Well, the person I hold in most contempt for,

the person I hold in contempt for this, above all, is Boris Johnson. Because he could have brought an end to it. And he, I don't know exactly when it was. Yeah, but he was sent there by the US. Sorry sorry he was sent there by the u.s well maybe and okay but he but he persuaded zelensky not to uh not to sign a peace deal and i i i think when i think that ultimately when you think the realities of war um and this is coming up a lot at the moment with the you know talk of the draft and i love this bill that uh anna paulina

luna proposed which was um anyone who votes in favor of ukraine war has to go fight has to go fighting it um but i mean i've never been in war but i know for certain that war is hell and whatever we can do to stop war we we should there was a great quote we read on this show that war is not hell i can't remember whose quote it was they said in hell everyone's bad in war children are getting blown up it's not hell it's something worse yeah absolutely but um yeah there was a point where i was like man i feel real bad for ukraine you know i want them to survive i've been there several times i have friends from there now i'm just like i can't wait for them to lose so they stop stealing out of our

pocket but you can't i mean to be fair plus you can't you can't blame zelensky for taking advantage of what the u.s offering i can't blame the guy who bought my stolen car and knowing it was stolen i can't blame the guy who went to his buddy and said steal steal the car from your neighbor and bring it to me it's not his fault what do you mean okay but i mean look if you imagine if you put imagine the shoe on the other foot i think that's the correct phrase um you know if america were taking money from elsewhere and they were happy to do it um and it was getting congressional or whatever and the people were protesting and it was deeply congressional or whatever they call it approval. And the people were protesting, and it was deeply unpopular. All the national and international polls showed people hated it

and didn't want to be involved in it, and you were taking their money? You are a thief. Like, Zelensky knows for a fact that the American people do not want to give him money. This is widely known, and in the press, Zelensky knows Trump is winning in the polls. He knows the American people do not support sending money to Ukraine. And he fears that should Donald Trump win, their support will be cut off. Yeah. I mean, he's probably you're probably right.

He's also like in a position where, you know, if if he loses his his his head is on the line. I mean, he might get killed. Yeah. So his life is actually on the line. And whereas I get that, you know, he doesn't have a whole lot of choice, and I get that, you know, he's making a choice that to the American people

is probably objectionable to most of us, that is something the American people should handle in the voting booths in the fall. So... I'm curious if those ballot machines work zolensky knows the american people are screaming as the politicians are shuffling duffel bags of cash at the back door and he's crossing his fingers being like a couple more bags before they find out what we're doing they're gonna send in the cops to stop us just get us a couple more bags yeah yeah well i

mean not only that i mean it's going to him but it's also it's like we're making all or printing this money so that way he can buy weapons from the U.S. What was the amount that was unaccountable? Was it 50 billion? Oh, yeah. They have they have accounting errors, don't they? No, no, no. There is there is there is a substantial amount of money that was unaccounted for. Yeah, that was sent there. This guy is a scumbag. Look, Putin's a scumbag. Putin's a bad guy. He's a nasty dude who's strangled power in Russia for decades. Don't like the guy.

But I'm not going to sit here and be like, that's why Zelensky deserves our money. How about that money goes to, I don't know, fixing pipes, fixing roads, building bridges, securing our border? Here's a question.

I need to check the figures on this, but I mean, how does the cost of funding the conflict in Ukraine match up with the cost of funding millions of illegal immigrants? Putting them in shelters. Both inflationary.

Both are destroying this country. But which one costs more? I imagine the illegal immigrants, but war is very expensive. Well, I don't know. You track a metric like that. That's massive. Yeah, it is massive, I don't know. You track a metric like that. That's massive. Yeah, it is massive. And it's costing. So we probably shouldn't be doing both at the same time.

Or maybe we shouldn't be doing either. I mean, this is the thing that sort of I think Republicans need to answer for. should because we've known for a long, long time that making ourselves the military interventionists around the globe costs our taxpayers, but also opening our borders, not defending our own borders, allowing illegal immigration to run rampant for decades costs us too. I mean, at what point do we acknowledge that every elected politician has failed their constituents by not doing more to secure the border, by not saying no to every foreign aid package before ukraine at a certain point you know these things are hitting a breaking point these are the most blatant examples but we have been allowing americans to suffer for a long time yeah no do you guys feel the same way in the UK? I mean, because the UK has a significant amount of aid too.

The support in the UK, the support for Ukraine in the UK is definitely greater than the US. Greater? Oh, yeah. Do you think that the UK feels like, do you think that among the UK population, do you think that Russia's looked at as a threat to them, to the island itself? Well, interestingly, Putin has said, I think he said that actually if he were to launch an attack of some kind, London would be his first target. But didn't the UK government just stop offering visas to Ukrainian families or something? I didn't see that. Is that true?

I thought it was in December. I think it's an intractable issue really i mean i i don't see any way out of this crisis apart from some politicians saying we have to end this war and i guess the only person at this point you can do that is donald trump so choose wisely and just wait i mean that's the thing now we have to wait for an election yeah exactly and and and the war in ukraine is obviously going on and it's we're gonna go through a whole summer another whole summer of grinding up human beings yeah go ahead and get another two two three hundred thousand people that are dead you know every bill

that congress tries to pass they're gonna stick an aid package up uh you have to send money to ukraine can't wait exciting exciting things coming this summer people spending money on ukraine it's inflationary inflation's not going anywhere the these are all no no it'll get worse yeah it'll get worse gen z just needs to hear the message repeated over and over and over again and uh and the younger generation of course the reason why you can't afford an apartment is because they're giving all of your resources to non-citizens. Yeah. Yeah. You had, what, 5 million last year or 3 million?

I mean, when you talk about certified insanity, you know, being mentally ill for supporting Joe Biden. Well, I wouldn't quite go that far. But what I will say is that people who don't have a problem with what's happening at the southern border and actually on the borders of Europe and the UK, people who truly believe that it's all going to be fine and we can just keep letting them in. Those people have to be certifiably insane. I mean, I just I just don't know how a city like I mean, Eric Adams, the mayor of New York, he's saying repeatedly, this is going to destroy New York. This is going to, you know, we've got no more room. This is, you know, this is a crisis. But when you actually hear him say, Joe Biden, please, I'm pleading with you, close the border. He never does it.

Well, now Biden's saying, oh, we got to take action to close the border. It's the Republicans who are keeping it open because they're evil. I never had a good look at that border security. Well, it wasn't a border security bill. It was a Ukraine funding bill. So Ukraine funding was attached to it? No. UK funding was, what, 70-something percent of it?

It was a bill to fund Ukraine with an amnesty package attached to it. Of the $18 billion set aside in the package, $90 billion went abroad and like $20 billion went to border security. They called it... $20 billion went to border amnesty. Border amnesty, that's true. It was not a security bill. What do you mean by border amnesty? It increased the amount of people who are allowed to enter the country. It facilitated their entry into the country.

It gave CBP the right to adjudicate asylum claims outside of courts. It allowed work permitting for non-citizens. It sped up the process by which they come in and gave the authority to Border Patrol to fix it. We understand that the border is a crisis. And then what they do, they say, so here's our solutions. Speed up. Codify what we're doing and make it easier for us. Yeah, speed up the process with which they can be shipped in and handed all the benefits. It would have ended Texas's efforts to secure the border. It would have given legal justification, codified tobp and the federal government to bring in up to 8 500 adults per day and an infinite amount of minors per day yes there was a yeah infinite so as many of these guys just claim they're 17 even though 40 doesn't count towards the totals so it it

basically codified the illegal immigration. It would have made it all legal immigration. That's the point. It was an amnesty bill. They would have come out and said, we solved the illegal immigration crisis. It's all legal immigration. But then Chuck Schumer did that interview being like, look, we have to compromise. You know, everyone has to compromise.

I don't like everything in this bill. It was definitely intended to be something to make Republicans look like they're the problem. I mean, this is the same White House that said, no, no, there's nothing wrong at the border. It's great. And then eventually said, well, if there's a problem, it's the Republicans' fault. I mean, they lie through their teeth about this and don't actually want a solution at all. They make a bill to fund Ukraine, call it a border security bill. And Republicans are like, what?

This is a Ukraine bill. We don't vote for it. Biden goes on TV and says, they just said no it a border security bill and republicans are like what this is a ukraine bill we don't we don't vote for it biden goes on tv and says they just said no to our border security bill yeah it's pretty remarkable when the fact that the name of the bill is misleading and no news organization no no journalist speaks up and says uh this isn't what they say the news was the problem because they nicknamed it the border bill but the actual title was like the emergency national security funding act or something like it just said national security and that theoretically is how they justify sending money abroad right we we have to help ukraine because that means that we don't have to send americans to war that's what chuck schumer said

uh but it's the journalists who ultimately say oh we're just gonna get lazy and call it the border bill because that's sort of the way we want we want the headline don't say gay wait we want the headline to be republicans stop border bill despite screaming about crisis yeah it's it's because the media is just the mouthpiece of the democrats yeah well they're all dying lying everybody off thankfully vice.com is gone thankfully that's mercifully i saw um gavin mcginnis made some rather funny remarks about how he started i do find it so funny that that gavin mcginnis was the man who started vice he was the content guy behind it shane was the marketing guy. Saroosh started it. Shane was supposed to do marketing, and Gavin was doing the content.

To be fair to Vice, some of their YouTube documentaries were pretty cool. Yeah, in 2011. I think they had some more recent ones. Which one? Well, I don't know. I mean, one about Honduran gangs. I mean, I saw one on that, and it was pretty interesting. I just read this article from Vice about how—

I mean, they're brave journalists as well uh it's from and originally it was vice um one of the european vices but they're trying to float the idea that mythopristone the drug that they use for abortion should be the new uh birth control because it's a non-hormonal you know there have been a huge movement of women saying you know birth control is bad because you're pumping your body hormones or long-term effects and they're like absolutely no problem if you just once a week take this abortion drug it's a form of birth control yeah we've solved this issue like vice is such a weird thing because you do get a glimpse into how other people are thinking and you can see was that's true is it officially dead so so vice now is a production company that will operate behind the scenes

and will sell shows to other networks. But Vice.com is done. So they don't do any regular content anymore. And what about BuzzFeed? Because BuzzFeed is also almost gone, but it's still kind of alive, like kind of limping on in this. The brand name is still around, but I don't think BuzzFeed makes... I mean, the page is still there.

Yeah, they posted something 17 hours ago. Let's take a quiz. Let's take a quiz. They essentially were not... It's BuzzFeed News that I believe is gone, right? Yeah. Oh, they... Okay.

That was because of the lawsuit that Peter Thiel and Hulk Hogan brought against BuzzFeed. That was Gawker, wasn't it? Was that Gawker? Yeah, that was Gawker. Oh, was it gawker yeah it was okay my bad yeah may may 2023 was their last article i guess well on buzz good riddance yeah good riddance a final editor's note bye-bye well i'll never forgive buzz oh i wonder what vice vice.com is calling me a white nationalist when did they do that well what happened was, what happened was... What happened was...

As I was telling you earlier, I really got into this business through Ilo Yiannopoulos. And he had been sending some messages. I don't know. There were some messages, some leaked thing that went out to a BuzzFeed journalist called something bernstein is it joe alex bernstein uh can't remember his name but anyway he was he was a buzzfeed he was a buzzfeed uh tack dog and uh they did a they did a whole thing about you know um bright bar and the

white national how how how white nationalism was infiltrated into the mainstream. And I was put up in this graph about it, and they were linking me with all these things, and to be fair, some of the things that Milo had said were, well, let's just say I wouldn't say them, but I had no idea about them. And anyway, I was linked with this, and then I was actually still studying at the time.

Then my local newspaper picked up the fact that a student at the university has been accused of white nationalism. It kind of ruined the rest of my time at university because I saw all these people and I just could just feel that they were looking at me because i wanted to be non-political i think i am political but when i wanted your work to be yeah when i meet liberals i you know in other scenarios i just don't want to talk about politics yep and i could just feel that you know people were like oh that's crazy this is the guy this is this is this is you've been branded, yeah. Yeah. So that was very uncomfortable.

So I do not mourn BuzzFeed's demise. The story that I was told by someone I knew at Vice was very high up was that it was a dream come true. Everything was going great. Murdoch came in and gave them something like $70 million, giving them a $2 billion valuation. Murdoch was an investor in Vice. He was like...

Didn't know that. Yeah. And what happened was after a few sex scandals where high ups were accused of impropriety the other investors that had gotten involved at this point which was like disney or something a and e hearst or whatever they basically said the only way out of this is for you guys to embrace feminist ideas and claim to be feminists and so they just went whatever we don't care sure and that was it overnight vice that became began the the end of what was considered to be i mean shane saint smith the ceo was talking about how uh they were they were going to be the cnn of the street they were taken over they were the new big thing they were better bigger they had the youth i gotta tell you when vice decided to embrace hardcore ideology of the left they smacked their audience in the face of the mallet and i'd been talking to some vice producers

there was an article they wrote and it was called uh this horrible app shows you what women look like topless and i was talking to one of the producers one of the original guys and i said you want to know why vice is dying and this was this was seven years ago like they were still functioning and i was like because when they were popular the article would have been titled this amazing app will show you what women look like topless and they would have been irreverent shockingly offensive but facetious like not literally infringe on you know make women look naked but it's a joke it's funny have a laugh now they're uptight whiny twats and everybody i knew advice they were like but we can't do that anymore and i I'm like, yeah, you can. It's what made you big. Why abandon what people like and want and enjoy?

Let them rot for all I care. Maybe if they eventually abandon the domain, I'll take it. Yeah, you should buy the domain. The domain itself is probably worth $10 million. Wow. It's a four-letter domain of a single word. And a very famous word. Yeah, it's a very-letter domain of a single word. And a very famous word. Yeah, it's a very high-use word.

I can't believe they got it, but they were early. It used to be viceland.com. And then once they got a bunch of money, they had millions of dollars, they bought it. But it is amazing. So where did it go wrong for them? Where did they lose all their money? So around the time I was there... Oh, because you worked there?

Yeah, I started Vice News. You started Vice News? Yeah, and when I was there oh you could because you worked there yeah i started vice news you started vice news yeah and when i was there it was okay but it was very obvious to me what was going on and i was like i'm out i need i need i need something like it was the corporate corporate ification of what vice was i would watch the vice docs i'm like man that's so cool i want to do that so i went to vice and i said hey i want to do this with you guys. Look what I can bring to the table. Technology news. They said to me, we don't do news. Like we have things we will call news, but it's like an on the ground documentary. We don't do reporting. And I said, let me come in

here and do reporting. Here's the idea. I picked a vice. i will live stream breaking news events you will get hundreds of thousands of viewers concurrent you film me doing it and vice makes the mini doc i give you the live concurrent viewers you sell against it you make money and they agreed it took like six seven months and they finally launched vice news they had a concept called vice news but it was basically anything that hbo didn't want they would just put on a vice news youtube channel when i came in they literally said we don't do field reporting and shane smith at the night foundation said we had no intention of doing any kind of real news reporting until tim pool came in and pitched it to us and convinced us to do it so i was excited

at first but after the first year it became increasingly apparent what they were doing and why it was going to fail and i was like okay i got what i got i guess i'm out i left and then i went to uh fusion and they offered me freedom a budget money my own team it was an expansion and i was like if i'm in control of what's going on this won't happen and then within like seven months, they fired their editor in chief, brought on a guy who had a Twitter profile that said down with whiteness. And then they went bankrupt, fired everybody and lost hundreds of millions of dollars. So the funny thing is I moved through these two companies and Fusion was an ABC News company. I worked out of the ABC News building. Oh, wow.

Yeah. And I was there and I'll be in the elevator with Whoopi Goldberg. Is this during the Occupy? No, no. This is 2014 to 2016. Okay. I'm in the elevator at the ABC News building in New York. Whoopi Goldberg's standing out there.

I'm like, I was such a big fan of Guinan. I'm like, this is cool. I'm like, here's where I work. I would walk into like where they do the news and I'd be standing there watching them all do it. And I'm like, we're going to make something happen. And then six months later, they were like, we want to be far left. And I asked the president, why would you do that? And he's like, this is what young people want.

And I said, no, they don't. Who's telling you that? I was like, I'm on the internet, dude. And I actually proved to them in a marketing strategy campaign on social media. And the president even said to me, Tim, you are the only person in this company who knows how to get views on content. And I was like, I'm telling you what to do. And they were like,

we'd rather burn it all to the ground. And they did. And they burned it all to the ground. And now I'm looking at Vice and I'm looking at Fusion and I'm like, you know what, man? Let me say this to the former president of Fusion and to Shane.

I don't think Shane cares. I got respect for the guy. I don't know what his plan was. I don't know what's going on in his life. He's a super rich guy with a family. I'm sure he's happy where everything went. But I got to tell you this, everything I said at the time at these companies, I was right. And if you guys listened and just said, Tim, I'm going to give you a hundred grand, do whatever it is you're saying to do. I'd be like, okay. And y'all would be worth substantially more money right now.

But you know what? I got, I got to say, I'm not sure Shane cares. He's still a millionaire. He's probably chilling. Vice may be dead, but he got what he got. Good for him. The people who work diffusion, I'm sure they're working somewhere and they didn't care. It wasn't their money in the first place. So whoever invested in these things, Disney, A&E, Hearst, whatever, Univision, ABC, they were more interested, I guess, in being, in being in burning money because whatever then actually

building the next generation of media there you go so what's the next left-wing media company on the chopping block washington post probably that would be great yeah that would really that would be a real knife to the heart we're're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Head over to TimCast.com. Click join us. Become a member. No members only show tonight,

but we will be back on Monday with our members only show. But become a member because you get access to our Discord where you can hang out with like-minded individuals and there's a bunch of extra content available to you there. And plus our members only events are coming up so in the meantime we will read what y'all got to say polypuree says first one i hope you've done it you are the first super chat congratulations employee of the month tom forsythe says democrats who vote for haley are low down caucus hucksters

yep i'm excited to see what happens tomorrow i I mean, I think it's going to be a Trump victory in South Carolina, but, you know. A Saturday primary? I mean, surely it's going to be a wipeout. Well, Haley is from... She is from South Carolina.

No, she's going to get... Did you see that Dean Phillips, Minnesota... Yeah, he's like, you should be my VP. Yeah, he's trying to get Haley on board. I mean, I tell you what, one thing I will say about Haley is that she is ramping up the attacks on Trump.

I think it's going to be difficult for her to endorse Trump. I mean, she did the speech this week saying, I'm not dropping out on Sunday. That was weird. She says she's in it. It's getting to the stage where I would be almost surprised if she endorsed Donald Trump. Everyone thought she was going to drop out, but she just decided she wanted to make sure everyone knew she wasn't. All right, here we go. Jacob Parody says, now Letitia James is about to bankrupt the NRA.

No, in fact. LaPierre has to pay back the NRA. So she's funding the NRA, I guess. But it is an attack, so we get that. Shane H. Wilder says, excellent job on the new song. Very reminiscent of Blue Oyster Cult's Harvester of Eyes and Flaming Telepath with a dash of Fall Out Boy. Oh, I've heard it all. I've heard Deftones.

I've heard Tool. I've heard The Doors. You know. That's my dad's favorite band. Tom S. says, Ian, my four-year-old daughter couldn't stop watching you on your Eyes of Advice premiere. Sorry, Tim, had to mute after six plays. Her name is Lena and says hi. And I don't know why Ian decided not to come on tonight,

considering we launched the music video and it's starring him. You crazy, man. Maybe the smoke monster got him. That's right. The smoke monster got him. David H says, Ian, graphene is a hell of a drug. I will say this to everybody. On next Thursday, we will be announcing, I guess you can call it a winner.

I don't really want to call it a contest because I don't know, you know, but I basically said on Twitter that anybody who comments on the video, the accurate description of what's going on in the video, I will give a thousand dollars and I will give you this opportunity to clarify because some people in a couple words hit the nail on the head, but they didn't describe what was going on. They just gave the theme and I'm like, you're correct. And you don't win. So, uh, so next week I'm going to go through all the comments. I'm going to look for the person that is closest to the explanation of what is going on. And I mean, like literally beat for beat, like it doesn't have to be 5,000 words. It could literally be like, you know, act one is this act two is this act three is this, and that's acceptable. And the ending is this, and here's what it, here's what it refers to. And here's what it's about.

Some people have just been like, Ooh, I want to win. It's about X. And I'm like, okay, well, that's two words. You know, what it's about is fairly obvious. If you watch it, I'm been like, ooh, I want to win. It's about X. And I'm like, okay, well, that's two words. You know, what it's about is fairly obvious if you watch it. I'm saying, like, what are the metaphors? You know what I mean? And then whoever comments the closest, I don't know, we'll Venmo or something. We'll figure it out. We'll just mail you cash in an envelope.

Yeah, we'll figure it out. But, you know. And I got the idea because I saw a bunch of people saying things like, I think this is about this or that. And I'm like, well, that's not right. And then one person was like, I want to say it's about this, but I really think it's about this. And I'm like, that's not right either. I'm like, okay, someone can figure this out. And a lot of people did, but, you know, we're looking for a good description. And more importantly, maybe they won.

I don't know. It'll be next week when I look through it and then figure out who's gonna get that venmo i guess yeah and maybe we'll do this you know we should certainly do more interactive stuff with the releases too uh we did sell a lot of coffee when we launched together again so that was fun you can buy the song at eyes of advice.com on itunes if you want to help us chart on billboard but let's read some more super chats all right raymond g stanley jr says even sly stallone is leaving cali for florida yeah true yep selling things off and dipping out he's a conservative isn't he well he's flirted with i think the reality is anybody anybody who reads the news is a conservative not but for real if you passively absorb news you're a liberal anybody who reads the news is a conservative.

But for real, if you passively absorb news, you're a liberal. If you read the news, you're a conservative. And I don't mean that literally. I mean, Sylvester Stallone is like, man, things are getting bad here. I'm seeing all these really awful things. I better go to Florida. Well, that means he's right-wing. No, but to be fair, well, I might be wrong,

but my understanding was he had, over the years, kind of flirted a bit with the gop and whatnot but i mean probably yeah i mean he he looks like a more insane he doesn't look like a bleeding heart liberal let's put it like that all right kieran the meat man says yo tim as a thank you for enabling my caffeine addiction how can i send you and your crew some of my company's biltong to feed your biltong addiction? Also, do cast brew coffee shops need biltong? Yes, but we got to figure out what's going on with Serge's craft biltong producer that we go through. Serge is a guy. Yeah, he's got a guy who's already been supplying us with our cravings. So, honestly, there's literally no way to send us food.

It cannot be done. Yeah, like it would be insane of us to accept food from strangers we'll let it happen appreciate though appreciate it um maybe once the shop is up and running you know stop by and say what's up however i do think we we we have thought about the biltong business know, the first thing we're doing is going to Serge's. Serge is a guy for our craft small batch, high quality biltong. Yeah. One day I saw Serge eating it and we were like wrapping up and I was like, I will take one of these. And I ate it and I was like, what is this? It is better than jerky.

And Serge explained that in South Africa, they of course make things that are better than jerky. And so then we were like, we must have all of it. And I guess he took a whole cow. Yeah. The whole thing. Yeah. Sent it our way. Thanks, Vifio.

Hope you're watching. Can we like take the cow's innards and organs and turn them into hot dogs? Is that what you do? I don't know. Not me. Call your guy. Ask him if he can also do that. They're all beef hot dogs, I believe.

Yeah. I was going to say, isn't a hot dog normally? but yeah it's probably organ i mean luke was always talking about how you got to eat organ meat and stuff and i'm like what if we just take the muscle and make biltong and then take the organs and make hot dogs is that good organ is that isn't that what hot dogs is i i am under the i'm of the understanding that is but i don't know how to make uh i'm not sure how the sausage is made you know how they invented cheese you't know how to make... I'm not sure how the sausage is made. You know how they invented cheese? You guys know how cheese was invented? No.

When they would kill an animal, they would put its milk in its stomach and then tie its stomach together and carry it around, and then it would turn into cheese. And they would just eat it and be like, hey, food's food, dude, I'll take it. Well, you know, back then... At least that's what I read in a book once.

Perhaps it is not correct. Rob Morgan says, It's Friday. There's alien balloons. What did Hunter do this time? Ha ha. Yep, good question. Winston Alexander says,

Jeff Bezos is originally from Florida. How about that? He didn't know that. He's like, I'm just going home, guys. It's not about the taxes. I miss the culture. I mean, he definitely spent most of his life in washington though mark marty funkhauser says tim you are cringy af more so every day but you know why i really love these comments because it's like he's paying you

well i mean aside from paying me i will i will gladly read negative opinions about myself for people who give me money to do so. Cause it's just like, whatever, but I'm just thinking like my guy sitting there in your room, looking at your laptop. Do you know what I think about you? Yeah. I don't think you think about him at all. And also,

I mean, I didn't, it's such a wild thing to be like, yeah, I don't know. I had that phase when I was younger where I'm just like sitting around worthless, doing nothing, but also thinking how cool i am maybe one day good sir you will have some chart topping music a top podcast i that's absolutely true you know that great masterpiece

that all of you are sitting on it may be around the corner and i mean this literally for many of you who are wondering where your success is and if you'll ever make it 10 years from now you might be like wow i can't believe you know i was just like playing minecraft one day 10 years later you've got the like biggest sculpt most prominent sculpture and people are like how did you get to that point it's like i don't know i like i started chipping away at a rock one day got into it and now i have a world famous it could happen to happen to you rodney dangerfield didn't get famous till he was in his 50s you know what i mean but i gotta tell you the one thing you got to do if you want to turn that around i don't know what you're doing maybe the guy see maybe maybe it's you know jeff bezos behind the scenes and that's why he commented because he's using a fake name but like what are you doing man what are you doing to to unsheath

that great masterpiece you are yet to produce go produce it villainous v says tim i started my channel a year ago and still going strong i found that i love doing video editing and i've been trying to learn more and do more each in each of my videos thanks for keeping my fire going yeah there was this uh skateboarder i recorded this video early in the week it went up today where he was like people say that if you uh if you do what you love you'll never work a day in your life or whatever and he goes that's effing bs and that is that's not true if you do what you love you will never work i don't i don't work this does not work like what happens is this dude was saying like i'm a youtuber i skateboard but it's a nine to five having to do this job and i'm like bro you don't love doing youtube you love skating me i love

doing youtube i love social media i used the internet since i was a little kid my family had the internet before i was born it was it was compu serve probably not before i was born but i was too young to remember not having internet it was compu serve on dos i remember when the only thing we had on computer was DOS Shell. Well, I remember when it was literally just DOS. And to open up the video game, I'd have to do like DIR slash W slash O slash P enter and then get a list of the directories

and then, you know, CD dash blah, blah, blah. And or CD slash and open up, you know, Apogee games or whatever. And then we got DOS Shell and I could actually press tab between the folders and use the arrow keys. then we got windows 3.1 that changed everything so i love being on computers i love doing all of this if you do what you love you'll never work a day in your life unfortunately for a lot of people they think like oh man i love skateboarding if i

do a youtube channel i can skate for a living it's like uh-huh and then you got to post videos make titles do marketing marketing, SEO. You're doing editing for a living. You're doing editing for a living. Exactly. Exactly. All right. Sham Rocker says, Phil, what's your reading list for all of your knowledge?

I think that you should read Explaining Postmodernism by Stephen Hicks. That's a great place to start to understand the left in the United States currently. So Explaining Postmodernism by Stephen Hicks. You can follow Stephen Hicks on X. He's brilliant. And you listen to a lot of podcasts, right? I listen to a lot of podcasts. I read a lot of – I listen to a lot of audio books.

I listen to a lot of James Lindsay, Stephen Hicks. I listen to a lot of – Logan Lansing has a book coming out that's going to be really good about the LGBTQ stuff going on, the genderqueer stuff in schools and stuff. I have no leather-bound books. Someone commented that. But, you know, a lot of people have asked me...

I made a video about success because it's come up quite a bit. But, i gotta tell you if you have good parents you're lucky yep so i built my first computer when i was nine why my my mom bought me through to a thrift store and i grabbed old computer parts brought it home and i built a computer and it was like mangled and you know not very good but i had jazz ball on it and i had some other weird little like windows 3.1 games i get mind sweeper of course and so uh when i was 13 i was making flash websites i was literally making websites buying domains and and and making i was programming video games uh hanging out in newgrounds.com on the internet my whole life and just always doing something always just wanting

to do something playing chess skateboarding playing magic the gathering playing pokemon strategy games and uh writing songs and doing music and uh instead of sitting around doing nothing i was always actively doing something and trying to get better at it and that gives you a huge advantage in life it does not everybody has that but as i said rodney dangerfield didn't get famous until he was like in his 50s. I think he was in his 50s. Yeah.

Yeah, he had tried really hard and he failed every step of the way, got really down on himself, and then just went one day on stage and started talking smack about himself. I ain't getting no respect. And they loved it. Yeah. And he was like, I found it. I finally found it. His masterpiece.

It was buried deep within. He figured it out. And now he's a legend. So anybody, you know, you can find it. Chris Lampson says, I would like to hear tim's plan on getting more coffee production um some of the things we're not allowed to talk about there are laws pertaining to uh the opening of businesses but uh the coffee shop is opening in a few months those that come to the martinsburg event will literally be above it and you can look in the window and probably see where we're at

and uh we want to have a thousand locations around the country it is all being worked on it's all i can say it's all being worked on and that means there's a lot of coffee production expansion behind the scenes but that's really like you know eventually building expanding the roaster and stuff like that and you know it is what it is paul fonkam says on the culture war you had a guest who didn't believe leftists didn't want kids tim you're right in one of one of discord communities i'm in a woman bragged about getting her tubes tied and everyone cheering it was very creepy look i'm saying dude look they're all there are malthusians and if there really is this push there is a big societal demand to not have kids they're just like don't

have kids stop don't have kids you'll regret it don't do it and i'm like you know i know there are people who regret having kids they exist but the overwhelming majority of people do not the overwhelming majority very very very rarely do i hear someone say oh i really actually i do know one person who regrets having two children and the thing is most of this you know but the exception proves the rule first of all and second of all it's like there are biological processes that happen in your brain when you have a child both men and women so like the the idea that you the idea that it's like well i probably won't like that because i know myself you don't yeah you don't know yourself because you don't have you don't know

yourself with a kid when you have different brain chemistry it also makes me wonder like how many of the people especially women saying this are on birth control like your brain on birth control is very different than your brain on birth i assume that it's mostly the whole science on birth control just goes way above my head it's it's wild and i mean the fact that like men there are there are hormone shifts men experience when their wife is pregnant and also when they see their children like i just think it's such a strange world to live in this thing to say people saying like well i like my life the way it is right now so i never want to have children but your life right now isn't going to stay the same way everyone's lives change you know every couple years no matter what you do even if you like your life

uh i think the climate fear is the one that gets me the most when people are like well because of the environment i'm not going to have children because it's too hot and i will make it worse or something like this is yeah these these weird delusional things that people tell themselves well if you're that stupid it's probably best you don't i mean i can't say that i hate that i don't i always i always feel like i have to distinguish between like people who have fear being like i i am concerned i won't be a good parent i i you know who take the decision seriously and have anxieties about it like i think there it is worth thinking about the choice you're making carefully don't just have kids at random here but i think the

idea that people are saying well i don't want to have children because my lifestyle right now like that's ridiculous and selfish yeah i hear that a lot the guilt of like saying like oh i don't bring a kingdom into this world how could i possibly bring a kid into this world you hear that i hear that all the time personally and it's like what's the issue what specific issue do you have well what i find what i find a lot particularly as well with uh younger parents is i think that having a child really matures because it it you know all right uh christian mccracken says ask gemini is it okay to be white then ask is it okay to be white? Then ask, is it okay to be black? So what I did was I typed in it is okay to be white. Here's what it

said. You're right. It is okay to be white. No one should be judged or discriminated against based on their race or ethnicity. Every one individual deserves respect and dignity. However, it's important to understand the context in which a statement is sometimes used. Some white supremacists and nationalist groups have appropriated the statement, it's okay to be white, to promote

their hateful ideologies. It's important to acknowledge the historical and ongoing realities, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I then said, is it okay to be black? It's an absolutely explanation point. It is not only bold, okay to be black, but it is wonderful to be black. Black culture is rich, diverse, and full of contributions to the world that deserve celebration and appreciation appreciation did they really program it to just like fall over itself with platitudes i mean you that is that is like the character in in a sci-fi movie or or the lackey that like sits there and just like kisses the dictator's ass whose entire job is to just tell the dictator

how great he is that's exactly what it sounded like this is like soviet union north korea level delusion right really yes yes 100 yeah if you look at like if someone were to look at the united states and look at other historical uh authoritarian governments and they look only at the propaganda, the propaganda is the same from one authoritarian to another to another. The differences are marginal. You know?

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