Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #969 Man Says He Was Hired To KILL Tucker Carlson, HAZMAT At Don Jr's Home w/Graham Allen

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Graham Allen to discuss rumors suggesting Ukraine ordered the assassination of Tucker Carlson during his interview with Putin, death threats & a mysterious white powder being sent to Donald Trump Jr, a US Airman lighting himself on fire in protest of the Israel Palestine war, and Dr. Phil slamming child trafficking being facilitated by Biden's border policy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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a video saying one of the Kremlin's favorite propagandists will pay for their crimes very soon. Back in September, nothing really happened after that. So maybe, unless, of course, this is a reference to Gonzalo Lira, not entirely sure. But I think it's fair to say doubt, healthy skepticism, because it's a big propaganda game in war and it's easy for Russia to come out and claim, oh, look, Ukraine's trying to kill Tucker because Tucker was just there. Apparently they're going to plant a car bomb. But we'll talk about that.

The real, the actual news in terms of assassination attempts is not necessarily a real assassination attempt, but Don Jr. had hazmat crews descend upon his home because of death threats and white powder being sent to him. Man, it's the end of February. Come on. You know, guys, things are always kind of chill in the winter. And if it's still winter and this is what's happening, I fear and I hope I'm wrong, but I fear that summer will get absolutely crazy. So we'll talk about that. Plus, one of the most viral stories of the past weekend is an airman, active duty, who self-immolated in front of the Israeli embassy while screaming free Palestine and said that

he will no longer be complicit in genocide. This story is going massively viral with many on the right saying he was mentally ill, many on the left saying that he is a Christian martyr defending the colonized people of Palestine. I'm not going to waste time for you guys. I articulated quite a bit that I think he was mentally ill. And I think if you're trapped in the online world and you don't touch grass, you might actually take your own life because of these things you're seeing on the internet. That would imply that you are suffering some something that needs to be diagnosed and treated so that you don't end your own life. But hey, you know what? Let's talk about that. We'll

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Thanks for having me, Tim. I appreciate it. Who are you? What do you do? I'm a guy that started ranting in his truck, turned it into a show. I host Dear America on Rumble and anywhere people can listen to podcasts.

Have an apparel company, 912 United and then have a couple charities that me and my wife run. And so that's it. I run my mouth for a living. Right on. Should be easy then. We'll run our mouths together for the next couple of hours with our friends Ian and Hannah Brimlow hanging out. Yeah, I won't even talk tonight.

I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. It's Scanner News. I'm really grateful to be a part of that team. Ian's here. Yes, and I will talk tonight, so get used to it. I hope that you guys saw the music video. My God, that thing was awesome.

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We have this tweet from Kaneko the Great. I've actually seen this tweeted out by several people, including Mario Nafal and retweeted by Charlie Kirk. Kaneko says, breaking Russian counterterrorism unit thwarts assassination attempt on Tucker Carlson. I'm going to pause really quick before I read through this and just say personally, doubt. I don't know how much i really believe this is a true story but far be it from me to uh you know know and be able to assert or be the arbiter of truth let me just read for you he writes a moscow man was arrested for allegedly accepting payment from ukrainian intelligence to plant an explosive on tucker carlson's vehicle targeting the american

journalist during his interview with putin quote in November 2023, I was recruited by the main directorate of intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. I was trained in working with special communications, collecting and detonating explosive devices. On January 31st, I received a task from the curator to pick up an explosive device from a hiding place and use it to blow up a car. What was promised to you? Quote, $4,000. Where was the explosive device supposed to be used quote in the underground parking of the four seasons hotel in moscow i was supposed to pick up the explosive device from a hiding place and place it under the car who was it targeting quote i wasn't told do you know who the target was now yes american journalist tucker carl What went wrong? I was detained at the preparation stage.

So you have this video of the man apparently saying this. And, you know, I don't know how true it is. The source apparently is a website called the Intel Drop that I'm not particularly familiar with, though many people have been citing this i do want to point out there was a blogger an online personality who was assassinated you guys remember this story when he was given a bust like a like a like a sculpture of his head or something and it was placed in a bag at an event where he was speaking and then there was a bomb and it exploded and actually killed a bunch of people wow so the idea that there are pro-ukrainian forces using explosive devices to assassinate opposition media is an established

fact whether or not this guy's telling the truth we honestly i honestly have no idea i don't know if anybody does i don't know what the intel drop is well tucker's on the ukraine light list right of of people that they want well there's like a list they're accusing and uh many people refer to it as a hit list i think that here's the funny thing this is the way the mainstream media works there is a list produced by ukrainians and supported by the ukrainian government that has a bunch of anti-ukraine personalities and people they don't like right some of those people have gotten murdered so people who are you know critical of ukraine's government say it's a hit list and they're saying it you know kind of like

essentially this is what they're doing they're creating a list of targets yeah the media then comes out and says no it isn't that's a lie that's fake news however they also claim that libs of tiktok is effectively producing a hit list right they say that she's creating a target by mentioning these people you can't have it both ways right if if you know if you the ukrainian government is listing a bunch of people they view as enemies of the state it is substantially different from someone on the internet posting other people's public posts no no i agree but that's what i'm saying so ukraine has this list people on this list have ended up not here anymore why is it such a far-fetched thing to say that they don't want Tucker or they did not want Tucker Carlson to interview Putin?

I think it could be true. I do too. I think it absolutely could be true. It's hard to know because we're in, it's information warfare. I mean. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game

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kill an American citizen as well. So it's hard to know for sure. It really is. And you're gonna have to just decide what you think makes the most sense. But you should also understand Vladimir Putin does not have your best interests in mind. He hates this country. And like, I can understand criticisms of the U.S. military industrial complex and the things NATO has done. But Vladimir Putin is not going to draw a distinction between the American people who support Trump and America in general.

It is a whole body he is opposed to. So his interests would ultimately see Americans suffer. So I'm not going to trust things coming out of Russia. That being said, Charlie Kirk tweeted this. A Moscow man named Vasiliev Pyotr Alekseevich, probably not saying that wrong, claims he was recruited and trained by Ukrainian intelligence to plant an explosive device in the underground parking lot of Four Seasons in Moscow to assassinate an unknown target, who he later recruited and trained by Ukrainian intelligence to plant an explosive device in the underground parking lot of four seasons in Moscow to assassinate an unknown target, who he later learned was Tucker Carlson.

He says it's impossible from the outside to verify the credibility of this claim. But remember this September. Remember the September 2023 clip from Sarah Ashton Cirillo, a transgender former U.S. soldier who acts as an English speaking spokesman for the Ukrainian military. Quote, Next week, the teeth of the Russian devils will gnash even harder, and their rabid mouths will foam in uncontrollable frenzy, as the world will see a favorite Kremlin propagandist pay for their crimes. This puppet of Putin is only the first.

Russia's war criminal propagandists will all be hunted down, and justice will be served. He says, I speculated then that Tucker Carlson was at the top of their hit list. Did Ukraine just attempt to make good on this threat? Now, of course, you're going to hear from corporate press, the mainstream media saying it's unverified, unfounded. Don't believe it. Charlie Kirk makes a good point. The only sentence that matters is this.

Russia's war criminal propagandists will all be hunted down and justice will be served all yeah if this is a spokesperson for ukraine ukrainian military saying the people they view as russian propagandists will be hunted down and then someone comes out later saying they were hired to go after tucker carlson i'm like well i mean you're the one who claimed you would be doing it yeah it's i mean it's an interesting timing too, because Russia's on the eve of a presidential election. That's like March 15th is the Russian election. So all of the spinning that could happen right now is sort of hitting a critical fever pitch that we don't experience the same way because we're on a November timeline. Right.

Whereas for Putin, this is the final. I mean, what final two, three weeks before he faces an election where I assume he'll be reelected. Yeah, like, yeah, like it's really an election. But for everyone else, you know, that's not the only election that's happening in Russia. It's an interesting time. Well, the biggest thing that people have to remember, and we talk about this on our show a lot, is, you know, Ukraine is not this beacon of light and this beacon of hope in the world,

and neither is Russia. Nobody's saying, yay, Putin, you know, like Putin's awesome. You know, no, Putin has a special place when he dies that I believe just, but, but Ukraine is just as bad in, in their ways as well. And so there are two bad countries that we're mixed in this forever war that they're trying to get us into between the two of them. So, but back to the point, I absolutely believe that this could be true. You know, I, I wonder which circle of hell Putin will find himself in off the top of my head So, but back to the point, I absolutely believe that this could be true. You know, I wonder which circle of hell Putin will find himself in.

Off the top of my head, I thought the seventh. The one with Adolf in the pineapples. The little Mickey. You know? I mean, that's... Well, so,

if you're familiar with the circles of hell, the seventh was those who are violent towards others. Yeah. But I have to imagine that someone like Putin has certainly betrayed

the people around him for which he would be reserved the deepest level of help where i believe you are what frozen in ice and shoot in the mouth of the devil for eternity is that what it is i don't know it's been a long time since i read dante's inferno so i can but um look you know that you said there's no one but you know generally speaking there's one. But there really are weird fringe people on X who are going to defend Putin. Oh, yeah. There's always the weirdos out there. Absolutely. Sane human beings that pay attention to anything.

I think the issue for us is, you know, under Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin's like, and he backs off. Why? Well, Trump crushes ISIS. Trump did arm Ukraine. And this is what a lot of people need to understand because the left you know libertarians anti-war people are like you know putin would have invaded trump was arming ukraine i'm like yeah but why why did putin back off for the four years that donald trump was president he's amassing his forces uh taking crimea under obama yeah trump gets in and then

he stops yeah i think got a bigger button it's not not so. Yes. But I do think Putin thought, let's see who Trump is. What did Trump do? He crushes ISIS. Yeah. And now Putin's like, maybe we could actually find peace with this guy. Maybe he's not going to to try and crush us the way the right Russia fears. The Uniparty establishment will try to crush NATO. I'm sorry.

Crush Russia. Because now we're learning. What was it today? I forgot what i was watching um it was a hungary i think it was hungary saying ukraine will absolutely be in nato and they're paving the way for all of this to happen now you take a look at the map and russia's almost every border on europe is nato yeah one unified military power and based on what we've already seen with chuck schumer adam kinsinger and the rest of them saying we must crush russia yeah russia's gonna be like it's war then yeah donald trump and donald trump what did he say at his rally he's like they don't pay i would tell russia

do whatever whatever the hell they want yeah and they tried to crucify him for that but he he has a point yeah they don't pull their part they don't pull their weight. Why do we have to help them? With you like what Trump said, I kind of feel like if Trump gets elected, Vladimir Putin is going to say, OK, what are you doing? And Trump's going to say, I don't want war. I don't care for whatever this dispute is. America's in a secure borders. We're going to boost our economy. We're going to drill for oil.

Russia, do whatever the hell you want. Yeah. What do you say in that interview? Oh, I can't remember who it was, but Trump talked about this specifically. and they said, well, you know, what's your goal between Russia and Ukraine? I just want people to stop dying. That's my goal. I just want people, which I think is the best answer anyone said in a long time. I just want people to stop dying.

You know, you've got Zelensky out there just the other day now talking about that 31 000 ukrainian soldiers have died where i i want to see where all of that is i don't believe that for one second uh you know what i thought when i heard about all these ukrainian soldiers dying what who cares well i mean yeah that's the point too but but my point is where's the proof we've got all these videos coming out of israel instantly and and this ukraine russian war has been going on for two years i've been to war this isn't how it works like like that's not how it happens i i don't like ukrainian soldiers dying in war but i also know that ain't nobody in this country is talking about i don't know sudan yeah like like the or burma there there are so many regions on this planet where there's active war and death yeah

and for some reason it's oh no oh the poor people live ukraine look the poor people live everywhere yeah there's evil everywhere relentless murder of women and children everywhere but we're super focused on what the elites want us to be focused on right now which is russia yeah and ukraine i'm pretty upset with how like nato forces destabilized libya and brought back the slave trade so when nato starts expanding i'm not a fan of where this is going to lead to yeah and then what do you get you get a mass influx of refugees economic migrants and uh and criminals flooding into europe yeah and now you know it's really fascinating about the immigration crisis in the u.s is everything i'm hearing that we've been talking about was said about europe like six seven years ago yeah they're always about about 10 years ahead of us

on what's going to happen yeah man here we are what stuff what do you mean well so uh you know six or seven years ago in across europe you had economic migrants from sub-saharan africa traveling up through africa to libya where they would be transported into europe now it's still happening mind you but it was massive waves of boats and there were a lot of people coming from uh afghanistan and syria but they were substantially less there was the um the western central and eastern migration routes to the mediterranean and i believe the central was the dominant one which was mostly economic migrants from sub-saharan africa coming into

europe being lied to they are being told by ngos if you come here there's jobs there's shelter there's food and when they showed up it was freezing and they were living in tents and i actually interviewed uh some of these individuals in france at one of these uh at a gigantic inflatable migrant center where everyone was just sitting in a big open space. And outside, I asked some people and they said, we were lied to. It's freezing here. There's no food. There's no jobs.

They tricked us. And that's exactly what we end up seeing with a lot of people coming in the migrant caravans to the United States. Yeah. There are NGO groups massively funded that have been encouraging people to come to Europe and the United States. Part of me wonders who, you know, it's funny, we're talking about war with Russia and all that stuff. I would love to believe that Russia was funneling money to groups to send illegal immigration into Europe and the United States to destabilize NATO. The only problem is the Uniparty establishment wants it to happen yeah and the politicians of europe also want to happen so they're actually in favor of the destruction which bernie sanders said in 2015 quote will make your country poorer

that's bernie open borders is a coke brothers proposal i can't do bernie too well anymore i gotta practice but he says that uh that was too's okay. He's leaving the set anyways. Bernie can't even do Bernie that well anymore. But he said in an interview on Vox, we brought it up last week, it will make your country poorer. Having open borders will make your country poorer. Now, here we are.

Yeah, go figure. Yep. Well, let's jump to the next story. So while the story about Tucker Carlson is interesting, we actually have something here at home. This is from SCNR.com. Hazmat crew arrives at home of Donald Trump Jr. after he was sent white powder and death threats. Quote, this is actually the second time the second white powder substance. Sorry, quote, this is actually the second white powder substance envelope that's been mailed to me, Trump Jr. said. So apparently this, I don't know, is this an actual image of the letter, Anna Clara? From what I know, yeah. Wow. It's Cassandra's story, but from what I know, that's the letter.

Hazmat and firefighters were at the Jupiter, Florida home of Donald Trump Jr. on Monday after the former president's son received a threatening letter containing white powder. The letter was also addressed to his fiancee, Kimberly Guilfoyle, Eric Trump his wife laura jared and ivanka kushner and baron trump quote trump jr the eldest son of former president donald trump received the letter and opened the envelope causing the white powder to fly out i just gotta say uh don what are you doing open your own mail yeah i don't get that at all. Don't open my mail. Yeah, no, no. Well,

what do you do? Well, I didn't, it makes no sense to me. We've, so I mean, look, I'm not going to blame the guy for wanting to open mail.

It's a normal human thing. Everyone should do. And he shouldn't be receiving these kinds of attacks against them. For me, I can just say this. Our security has been so intense. We've got like crazy mail security. Now it's nuts. We used to have a PO box. People could send stuff. We had to like crazy mail security now. It's nuts.

We used to have a PO box. People could send stuff. We had to get rid of it. I mean, it still kind of exists, but it's like most stuff has to be returned because of security issues. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. It's almost like to receive that stuff.

It's almost an unreasonable amount of security you got to go through. It just ends up getting thrown back. Do we know what the letter said? Well, yeah yeah i don't know if i should read it though because it's probably a death threat uh yeah let's see um i'm just curious if it said like any like you know you're you're the reason this country's falling apart you're the antichrist i mean you know something like that let's just say it's generally things like that calling uh donald uh like his father Don Jr., continues to shack up with his California whore.

Newsom is laughing his ass off, and it goes on to just disparage and insult the family, containing white powder. Do you think, and Tucker Carlson has talked about this a lot, and I agree with him, with everything they're throwing at Donald Trump right now, every indictment, every just absolute banana republic that happened in new york this most recent ruling uh the only thing left is to go after him in a different way right i don't want to get us in trouble here on on everything but we all know just intimidate his family yeah intimidate his family i mean do you think that this is the next step because everything that's been thrown at trump trump's family everything like that do you think well know, this type of thing? I mean, we're talking about this right here. Do you think that this is the next thing that's going to happen? Because the people that do not want Trump to win,

they're losing their mind because nothing's working, right? Trump's first campaign, a man tried grabbing a gun from a cop to assassinate Trump. Right. So the issue is for the powerful interests that don't like Donald Trump, they're smart and they know, as the saying goes, if you take a shot at the king, don't miss. Right. So you have to be if you're going up against Donald Trump, you have to make sure you've planned everything out. You need five layers of strategy. And so what do we got? We got New York with these, they're hitting them and it's multifaceted. You've got the NDA trial. You've got the E. Jean Carroll rape trial. You've got the fraud trial. You've got the Georgia trial.

You've got the documents trial at the federal level. January 6th trial. January 6th trial. legal weapon they add him that they can because that is the slow boil attack against trump that can stop him without creating a shock to the system basically imagine this donald trump is you know he's got a bunch of tiny little little people firing little ropes over him slowly wrapping him up one one at a time as if he's godzilla being stopped by the military i want you to imagine that that's that's how i envision it the democrats a big orange godzilla a big orange godzilla and democrats have a thousand little little soldiers all firing ropes

tying him up no single action is going to stop trump right i don't think they would actually try to harm donald trump as of right now because it would shock the system so massively it could rip the country apart and it could actually harm their efforts to gain control. But, but, but under that logic, we have to believe that the left that I don't believe actually wants what's best for the country,

that they don't want the country to rip itself apart, which I don't think that they want to get it. You're right. Far leftists, Antifa types may want to, but I don't think the establishment deep state would allow the far left to try anything to harm Donald Trump for now. I don't know.

Things will change right now. We're looking at Donald Trump getting a $454 million fine with $87,500 per day added onto it. It is completely illegitimate as far as any sane human goes but they are going to use the force of new york state to try and go after trump in a way they would describe as legitimate it's not but they're going to say look it's the law and the judge said so trump's got to fight that that is the slow boil move against trump which stops system shock the powers that be want the system to remain intact to a

certain degree i i i think they're viewing it like having a fever you know heat everything up to it to a point where you can shuffle off like january 6th right convince them all to do something stupid yell at them and tell them to go storm the capitol when they do you can then start arresting them under legitimacy of law yeah if don Donald Trump gets hurt in any way, it's going to martyr him. Even if he doesn't die, it's going to rally support for him. We see this with every politician

when someone tries to take the life of a politician. Right. So I think the Uniparty is like very much so, Trump must be safe. Yeah. And he must be destroyed in court. And the legal onslaught is what the Republican, the faction of the Republican Party that doesn't want to seem elected is also using against him nikki haley gave that speech

last week midweek where she's like i'm not dropping out and one of her criticism was of trump was he spends more time in the court courtroom than on the campaign trail but why does he spend so much time in the courtroom because he has to because he's under attack in a way that no politician who has campaigned has been under attack which I find really interesting because obviously at this point, those who are supporting Nikki Haley are just probably anti-Trump. Well, they're Democrats, most of them. Right. And because that's the talking point. Oh, he's not out here campaigning enough. It's interesting that it's two sides teaming up to say the legal the legal front is Trump's biggest witness. Well, what does that say about the country right now? Because she right right like i mean i mean that is true he's spending more time in the courtroom less time on the campaign trail she tried to put this thing out there the other day

which nikki haley unfriended me so i you know the the gloves are off now either way uh like unfriended you on facebook on instagram and whatnot which is crazy because either way but so gloves are off she did this post about how he's all in court he spent like a hundred million dollars over the course of whatever uh well she spent like upwards of 300 million in the past three four months and has got her butt kicked every single step of the way i don't know to me it seems like a boiling point where we're at because they're doing anything and everything they can. The money thing is concerning. It really is.

People's net worth versus what they actually have on them and the availability is very different. And so the money thing is a concern. I think everybody is concerned about that because that is, in a way, Trump's superpower. He doesn't need the money of other people and if he wasn't being donated a dime he could self-fund this thing himself going after that taking away the business license for three years how long is this going to take to get an appeal uh but back to the original thing about this maybe they don't go after trump himself but what about his family i think it's i mean one of the lawsuits involved is so none of the Trumps can be an operative business in New York at all, right?

Well, that's the New York one, yeah. Right, and so there is this idea that they're going after them financially. They want Trump to be bankrupt, but they also want it so none of his sons who took over the business, you know, because he had to move everything into their names, they do not want any of the Trumps to be able to succeed financially and potentially run other political campaigns. Right. Because where was the secret service during this letter? Don't all the immediate family kids still have secrets? Or does that go away?

That's what I would want to know about this letter in particular. Like, was this because obviously, like, yes, you can have systems. So your business mail doesn't come directly to you or whatever else. But theoretically, if this Trump, if this letter made it far enough into his home like yeah how was it disguised how was it sent it was it something that says like this is from your children's school your aunt judy sent this or like this is from your kid's school it definitely needs your signature so it gets through some sort of screening process like that's what's so interesting to me about this yeah that would be the biggest yeah able to make it into the home yeah i agree with you

which would mean it's someone who's close enough to know where the or or where did the security breakdown happen i've talked to the trump team many times about i think they need to double triple quadruple the security that's going on for a letter like this with a white powdery substance and we'll you know we'll find out if they haven't already released if it was anything at all yet hopefully it wasn't uh how did that actually get into the home that would make me question who's around don jr yeah i mean the other thing about this letter is like he's listing all of it says it's it's to all of the siblings and their significant others except for uh tiffany trump and her husband right like there is a level where this is and she's the one who's the most removed yeah other than baron although baron goes viral every once in a while

for being 100 feet tall dude if he don't get a nba contract it's gonna be crazy he absolutely cannot fit in the white house anymore uh no but i mean there is a level where people who are sort of deranged will do whatever it takes and maybe something gets through a security system i i think that generally the the children of trump have always been caught in the crosshairs. Some of them want to be more publicly involved and some of them want to be more private. Right. That was arguably that's true for any, any child of a president,

right? That there will always be people who hate your parents and people will want to intimidate you. Well, somebody's getting fired. That's all I know that the letter got all the way to Don jr. And Don jr. Physically opened it himself.

Yeah. Somebody's getting fired. How do you, I, I can't, I can't understand that. How does he get there? That's what I'm saying. I have not opened a piece of mail in like six years. Look at the security. Trump team, if you're watching,

look at the security of you. Who let that get to you? That's the real question. It has to be something that was either hand delivered to him specifically or like was marked in a way that only he was supposed to see the contents of it. And again, that's why my default is to think like, oh, it's a letter from school, right? That's maybe got sensitive information about your kid.

But still, to Tim's point, it just seems like Don Jr. doesn't open his mail. You know, like, oh, it's a bill. Don Jr. doesn't open a bill. You know, like, I mean, they've got other people that pay the bill. I mean, this is the Trump family, right? Like, that's weird. No, I don't know. I think Trump Jr. probably pays all his own bills and takes care of business and all that stuff.

I bet he's got an accountant that does that. Yeah, but I mean, like, I don't know about his bills. Clearly, he's opening his own mail. Well, obviously, he's opening his own mail. I got to say, I just just this story's crazy to me because i'll tell you two things not only do i not open mail but i certainly wouldn't open a letter from someone i didn't recognize i don't even answer my phone it doesn't matter who's calling so if they if they impersonated somebody that they knew isn't that a felony like to

impersonate somebody via the federal mail like that you know oh i'm so and so that you know yeah people uh isn't that a crime people spoof phone numbers so i i don't even answer my phone yeah because it will it could say anything and you'll answer it and you will get something else so i just aside from that you know i mentioned this before it's like at a certain point and maybe it's just, I'd assume Trump, Trump family security issues are way worse than, than ours. But I, I don't have my own computer phone and I don't have the mail. I don't have email.

I don't have anything. Well, when you go to Mar-a-Lago, I mean, they know me there. Like, like I go there a lot and I get the same treatment, the same pat downs, the same everything all the time so again to to your point that's the weirdest part to me is well ladies and gentlemen happen things are certainly heating up and uh no pun intended u.s airman dies after setting himself on fire outside israeli embassy aaron bushnell yelled a free free Palestine, then lit himself on fire near the Israeli embassy of Washington, D.C. He live streamed this. It is going viral among many on

the left and many pro Palestinians who are fervently cheering on this young man who I will say unquestionably was mentally ill. And I don't know how you could deny it that you would go in front of the Israeli embassy, self-immolate while screaming free Palestine. And there are a lot of people who hate Israel. There are a lot of people with legitimate criticisms of Israel I can respect. But there are people who are, the issue of Israel-Palestine, it is, I don't know how you describe this. There are mental disorders in the DSM-5 we understand. Somebody's eating their hair.

And they do it all the time. They eat pennies. I reference pike a lot. There's body dysmorphic disorder. People want to remove body parts. We know that those things exist. But there's something else. If somebody is placed in a room for two weeks,

and the only thing they're shown is the same images over and over and over again. You can drive them insane. You can you can shatter their minds. So the question. So I would say outright a man who walks in front of the Israeli embassy. Sets himself on fire. He pours a clear liquid presumably gasoline. Says the people of Palestine have been living under the rule of their colonizers

who are committing genocide against them, and I will no longer be complicit, ignites himself. So the first question I have is, to what end? What was the logical thought process of doing something like this? I don't think he had one. The amount of mental illness that you have to be at to take your life in that way i want to say this to all the leftists when they're saying there's a genocide going on did he light himself on fire over the uighur muslims is he lighting himself

on fire over the sudanese conflict for which the u.s certainly plays a role uh what about the yemen the the yemenese humanitarian crisis been going on for a very very long time i mean 10 years ago we were talking about a secret war in yemen yeah with with cities uh being bombed by u.s drones even though we're not at war american citizens being killed this is my point this young man never did anything like this for any one of the other serious and egregious military affairs happening around the world with U.S. involvement. So when you see someone scream free Palestine, calling it a genocide and then letting themselves on fire. What I see here is a man who was trapped in an echo chamber where people were screaming in his face 24-7 until his brain broke. Because any rational person who assessed all of the details on global foreign affairs,

military conflict, would conclude the Israeli conflict is not the most egregious and insane thing happening on the planet. You can have the opinion that it is,'s fine but there's certainly others the other point is he accomplished absolutely nothing by doing it yeah it's interesting because it makes me think of the rates of anxiety depression and hopelessness that we see among american youth today i mean if you're deciding to go out by self-immolation sorry i can't talk uh it probably means that you wanted to feel as though your death definitely meant something and made an impression, right? And that's sort of an act of desperation to feel valued by the world. Ultimately, his death doesn't change what our

country is doing. And I feel sad to say that because the loss of human life is tragic, but this type of suicide is specific to someone who wants to mean something and i think there are a lot of young people who are desperate to feel as though they matter and i think that's a reflection of our country well the echo chamber to your point the the thing that sticks out to me this guy was an active duty airman so so the echo chamber was the military that like like here's my thing okay i was in the army for 12 years all right i wasn't anything special nothing but this like people that that are having how long till we find out that people are like oh yeah you know he's been he's been struggling for a long time or he's been

this it'll only be a matter of time before we find that out and people start talking about that so my question is back back when i was in mental health was a huge thing. The wars were going on, everything like this. If somebody twitched the wrong way, it was handled immediately. Like you would tackle that person and not let them move until mental health services got there across the board. So this is an epic failure in the military. There is zero chance, zero. If this dude was active duty, I'm telling you right now, there is zero chance, zero. If this dude was active duty, I'm telling you right now, there is zero chance that people around him and his squad, his platoon, whatever it was, they did not know that something's off with,

what was his name? Aaron Bushnell. Aaron. Something's off with Aaron. There's no way that people didn't know. And this is an epic, that this is another thing with our United States military right now, it is falling apart at the seams even in realms of mental health so i i will state because i know there will be people who will push back on what i just said about it accomplished nothing they'll say oh

he built awareness and i'm like uh sure i've heard that before for mental health lots of things build awareness well no the left is talking about it's in the news. They put it in the news or whatever. I don't think it wasn't. Here's the point. The fact that Houthi rebels are bombing cargo ships over what's going on in Israel take no need for awareness over the issue. Right. Self-immolation doesn't accomplish any boost in PR other than you publicly killed yourself. He died from his injuries. He did not stop to assess situation.

He didn't think about what he was doing or what it would mean yeah he just killed himself now here's what i think uh building upon what hannah clare was just saying about people want to matter i think we also see something um related to that if you look at the george floyd riots what were the george floyd riots really about they They're about COVID. People were locked in their apartments. They couldn't leave. They couldn't go to their favorite restaurants anymore. They lost their minds.

It's kind of wild because, you know, I lived in New York for years and I lived in a very small, they call it a one, they called it a two bedroom, but the living room and the kitchen were the same thing. So it's a one bedroom. I could not imagine being unable to leave because all the businesses are closed. You can't go outside. You can go out and walk around or whatever, but they tell you to go home.

I couldn't imagine being pent up and locked up inside and what that would do to your mind. But many people were for months, for almost a year. And then when George Floyd happened, they used that as an excuse to all flood the streets, screaming about all that anger they felt up inside that was built up inside i think this guy was mad about something else i bet he couldn't afford to pay his bills i bet he was unhappy with his position i bet he was unhappy

with his personal life and so all of that anger and desperation led him to consider ending himself because understand this i i talked about a story about a guy i think his name was muhammad wazizi you want someone to fact check me if i'm wrong tunisian guy who lit himself on fire in tunisia sparking the arab spring a man who self-immolated in protest of what his country had become triggered waves of protests and ultimately resulted in a wave of revolutions across all these countries the reason he did it was because he was a very poor man who was trying to sell fruit from a cart. Government agents, police came up to him and they fined him and said, you can no longer sell fruit. And here's a ticket because you didn't get a permit. He had nothing. He couldn't pay his bills.

He couldn't buy food for his family. He couldn't even now sell fruit of the government telling him no. So with nothing left in his life and absolute desperation, he had to kill himself. So he went in front of a government building, set himself on fire. And this triggered waves of outrage that he was fine for trying to live. And, you know, he was struggling and it resulted in mass protests in Tunisia. And then that ripple hit a bunch of other countries as more and more activists started saying, hey, look, it's possible. Now, in the mind of that man, why did he do it? Because the government had crushed him.

He couldn't survive. And he was basically dead. He was basically saying, by taking away my only opportunity to make money, you have killed me. And so he ended himself. He ended his life. He was desperate to want to die. For what reason does this man want to kill himself in america with a job there clearly must have been something wrong with his personal life where he would

consider killing himself if i'll put it this way there is zero chance a married father with children would be like you know what because of palestine i'm gonna i'm gonna end my life oh hold on you got a lot going on in your life. Yeah. Now, what if his wife was going to leave him and take the kids? And he was. Do we know he was single? No. Well, I don't know. I'm just saying a person with a stable work and personal life does not immolate themselves over Palestine.

Right. He might be really passionate. He might volunteer with groups. He might lobby his congressman. But deciding to light yourself on fire is a very different route it's indicative of something in his life that led him to suicide to a suicidal ideation and he directed that whatever that anger and pain was towards palestine whilst and you can hear him screaming free palestine i assure you if you look to his personal life you'll find distress and you'll find problems there was a priest in texas um his name is Moore. I just pulled it up. Someone told me the story back there. I

went to Southern Methodist University, which is in Dallas. And this priest, it was in, I think it was like 2011. He had driven up to our campus, this was before I went there, and thought about lighting himself on fire to protest how the Methodist church treated LGBTQ people. And then later, years and years later, like 2014, he did light himself on fire at a strip mall in I think Southern Texas, because he said he was protesting racial discrimination and call for justice.

And it's interesting to me because it had changed. And again, this is just what I remember about this story. He did ultimately light himself on fire. He had planned to do it for a long time. To me, this person is suicidal and they want their death to mean something and they want to make a flash basically yeah but it's not necessarily someone who is going to guarantee that there is a change right like the the arab spring example is interesting because it

did have a chain reaction but that person was driven to desperation whereas these two examples of men in america seem to be people who are already considering ending their lives and they want to think that they have the same kind of ripple effect. So to clarify, the guy in Tunisia, his self-immolation was an act of suicide. And he did it in a way as an F you, you have done this to me. There was a connection between his actions. He wasn't leading a great movement or anything. He was just like, the movement came afterwards. This kid has seen one too many videos on the internet about palestine yep

something's wrong in his life that's making him depressed and angry and so he's decided to kill himself and he's going to you know what i imagine his thought process was life sucks i hate my life i'm gonna do it but at least i'll say free palestine when i do well i i don't negate that i agree with you. I think that no one can argue that we're the most connected we've ever been, but we're the most alone we've ever been. So many people struggle with this. Depression, anxiety, suicide are rampant. Suicide is literally the 10th cause of death in our country now. My question still remains on top of the world that we live in. That is, that is these echo chambers to your point that,

that are breaking people down to a point where depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts are running rampant. How many times, and I'm just speaking purely from a military because this is a active duty service member. How many times was this person failed because we're also facilitating a world and a culture now where oh well they're just they're just dealing with something right now i'm not

gonna speak up and say hey something's wrong with so and so uh because they don't want to embarrass people or they don't want to get it involved and people don't want to do the right thing again there's no way that this guy that did this did not have any other very real signs to people and and yeah maybe he didn't have close friends but in the military you have close people next to you that see you every single day and we're facilitating it's the same thing uh when you had the school shooters and the kids are like oh yeah uh so and so said for forever that they're going to shoot up the school but they didn't say anything was it was it possible that whatever unit he was in he did not get along with his uh oh absolutely it's possible i mean that i mean that's that's part of the military there's people you don't like

but you have to learn to get along with but based on what you're saying about you know he's got people around him they're going to notice something's wrong yeah what if the the issue that drove him to wanting to take his own life was that he wasn't getting along with any of the guys in his in his unit or whatever or his commanding officers and he was like maybe they considered him to be i don't know a weirdo or weak or maybe he was the odd person out who felt detached and disconnected to the point where nobody cared and that that was actually what broke him. You know what I mean? I mean, possible all that again, the military is different now from when I was in it. I just know that when I was there, I mean, not only are you forced to take, uh, and, and, and

see people on a regular basis to make sure everything's good. Not only are you forced to take mental health courses and all this other kind of stuff. I mean, it was just, yeah. I mean, they would literally drill it into your mind. If your battle buddy, as it would be called, showed any signs of anything, you have the absolute obligation to spear tackle them and hold them down on the ground until somebody

trained can come in could it be that maybe when he would go on social media the other uh branch of the military would just make fun of him call him a member of the chair force and that finally well that i mean i don't know i mean that inner inner things between military branches i mean that's what i've heard that's just everyone Air Force, they call them the chair force. Chair force, yeah. Because they sit around all day. Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, I also wonder with this person, you know, if there is a certain amount of like

seeking glory in all of this. Because you've mentioned a couple of times that he was active on social media. He was posting about stuff. Like he didn't show classical signs of depression. And maybe that's one of the ways that we fail people that we expect them to present you know a suicidal person person can't get out of bed and they're really depressed like maybe there are ways that we don't understand uh people are driven to desperation i i i will be shocked if something doesn't come out that somebody somebody knew or somebody has suspected something one of the craziest things about this is his last post on Facebook, he said,

many of us like to ask ourselves, what would I do if I was alive during slavery or the Jim Crow South or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide? The answer is you're doing it right now. That right there, I think, shows he was suffering from some kind of, what's the, mass formation psychosis, I think is probably the right word for it.

He goes on the internet. He entrenches himself in propaganda and lives and breathes only one message. It's the example I like to give from Occupy Wall Street where they had a general assembly meeting. It means they brought everyone at the park together and said, okay, we're going to figure out what the, you know, what we want to focus on in terms of the problem of, you know, Wall Street. And people are saying, you know, oh, it's the bank bailout. It's revolving to our politics. And some old guy stands up and just screams, what is wrong with you people? It is fracking. Fracking is everything and i just thought it was absolutely hilarious because fracking is such a like minor thing in terms of global policy but this guy lived in only that

world and to a hammer everything looks like a nail so what is he thinking he was saying things like the big companies who want to drill for oil are paying off the politicians and they're getting funding because they're involved overseas in the middle east and it's all of these big companies these big energy companies are involved in fracking and they want to distract the american people with foreign just nonsense and i'm like that that's what i see here when when he would say something about i'm like i got i gotta be honest with you guys i certainly think israel palestine is a pressing issue but it is one of the least important issues to america and it is one of the least important issues in uh uh uh in terms of american that being said in terms of global affairs it matters quite a bit with the Houthi rebels in the Red Sea and the spheres that's escalating.

But it's to claim that the issue is the U.S. is involved in genocide as opposed to the real issue, of course, being the U.S. funding of Israel is exacerbating regional conflict, which could theoretically result in an expansion of war from Eastern Europe into the Middle East, and then giving China an opportunity to take Taiwan. We want to minimize opportunities for regional conflict around the world for the potential of World War III. He's like, the U.S. is genociding Palestinians. And I'm like, look, my concern over what's going on there has more to do with U.S. bombing Yemen and Iran retaliating than whatever's going on with the regional conflict between Israel and Palestine. Certainly don't think the U.S. should be involved in funding any of it.

But this is zealotry. Well, another question, and it just popped up in my mind, so I apologize. Keep going. Why do it in uniform? Why not do it in a Palestinian flag wrapped around you or something like that? Why? It's a little dramatic if he's in uniform. It was for the spectacle, kind of like what you were saying this it makes me think of these guys in the 60s that

did it uh and i'm gonna butcher this vietnamese dude's name he was a monk 1963 cheek kong juke i'm not sure how you pronounce that but he lit himself on fire to protest the vietnamese war and then uh norman morrison an american dude went outside of the Secretary of Defense's office and set himself on fire in 1965. So it was like, and it got massive attention in the 60s. Papers would like print the image. It was iconic. People were like, oh, what the hell is going on in Vietnam? Maybe we should second guess what we're doing and stop.

And it kind of led to the end of the Vietnam War, these protests. But in modern age, that's not how protest works anymore. That kind of spectacle stuff just falls away from people's minds. Right. They're not going to remember. This isn't like stealing the spotlight like he would have hoped. Well, there was a protester who set herself on fire in Atlanta over this conflict in December, and we barely talked about it at all.

You got to adapt to new methods. I didn't realize there were so many people setting themselves on fire. I'm not trying to make a joke out of it. No, it's, but I mean, I had no clue that so many people were like, I'm tired of this. I'm lighting myself on fire. There's this, I think it's a sociological conundrum or a concept called suicide pods, where it's like, if people get it concerned, especially with like young adults, high schools, like if there's a suicide at a high school, they're statistically, occasionally there are areas where that happens several more times that communities are affected by it and kind of pods. And it sort of makes me think of that. Like, why is this one issue triggering this specific

response? Again, is it supposed to because like you're referencing the Buddhist monks who live themselves on fire, like there's sort of a religious imagery to it. People feel as though they are martyring themselves for a cause by this dramatic suicide, like that's public like what is it uh why is the why are these two things being linked little pods like that popping up feels uh what's the word nefarious something something something dark in that in that type of what i read this article about it a really long time ago at the time they were saying it's sort of like as soon as it becomes public in a community if someone if there's a suicide in a community it somehow makes it okay for other people who might have those sort of yeah but that's like a manifestation of uh you know i mean i you know for people that are religious to me that just seems like a manifestation of uh you know oppression

and things like that not oppression like like slavery oppression, like spiritual, like evil, dark, demonic oppression and things like that. I think a large component of the culture war is mass formation psychosis versus rational thinking people. That's why the quote unquote right has so many different ideologies from traditional conservative

to laissez-faire libertarian that you will get a libertarian arguing uh what was it um at the libertarian convention where uh someone said should children you know children shouldn't be allowed to uh buy you shouldn't be allowed to sell heroin to children and someone booze you have those people willing to sit down with traditional conservatives and they'll have a conversation. Then you have the mass formation psychosis left, which we just referred to as the left. And they're unwilling to have the conversations. They believe fake things. And there's like the questions, do they even read?

They don't. They just believe garbled nonsense. And that's why I think when you look at the Google Gemini story, there's a reason why Google Gemini is garbled nonsense, making black founding fathers and black Nazis, because they live in a nonsense, fragmented world where they don't have the mental fortitude to break down information properly and to research and understand the world around them. So they fall victim to mass formation psychosis believe insane things vote for insane reasons and the rest of us have to contend with it that's not fun yeah yeah i agree i you know uh and they get mad at you as well they lose their

temper they lose their cool there's no rational conversations with people yeah let's uh let's jump to the story from fox News. This is massive. Dr. Phil tells view hosts about horrific fates for some migrant children at the southern border. I don't know if you guys saw this. He appeared on Rogan. He was talking about how he interviewed CBP. And they outright told him that U.S. tax dollars are used to facilitate the sex trafficking of children. That Customs and Border Patrol agents are taking child victims.

You are paying them to do it and they are facilitating the transport. I want to stress this. That Customs and Border Protection are facilitating the transport of child sex trafficking victims to their abusers. And Dr. Phil is on The View and he's like, yeah, it's happening. And they're like uh wow yep dr phil has entered the chat that's what i was saying what i said this downstairs well what happened to dr phil dr phil took the red pill all of a sudden man and and he's really uh he was just this same i guess the same thing he was talking about the covet shots and the side effects from

that too so this is crazy he said quote i talked to the head of all the border guards down there the head of the union i asked him straight up kids are coming over the border with numbers written on them phone numbers and addresses do we check those out is it uh he said well we call them is it possible that we're sending them into known prostitution rings or sweatshops he said it's not possible it is absolute we are using american tax dollars to ship children into known prostitution and sweatshops and the funny thing is when donald trump's administration says we got to figure out if these kids are sex trafficking victims children and whether or not that man with that little girl is his parent or not the left screamed oh he's separating families

meanwhile these are the same leftists who are cheering for adult graphic content in schools is his parent or not, the left screamed, oh, he's separating families. Meanwhile, these are the same leftists who are cheering for adult graphic content in schools. It makes you wonder about what their true intentions are. Yeah. It's the same people that had a problem with, oh, I just drew a blank. The movie, Sound of Freedom, that said it was right-wing conspiracy theory.

Yeah, the anti-child trafficking movie is evil. The anti-child trafficking movie is evil. The same people who claimed the Epstein story was a conspiracy. Yeah. Amazing. Well, why? Why are they saying this? Because there's so many people that are complicit in it. That's why they're doing it.

It's totally crazy. I mean, I'm glad to have sort of mainstream figures like Dr. Phil talking about this issue. It's so interesting to me that so many people are waking up to the dangers of the border and that they're willing to say, hey, this is a problem, we should confront it, rather than be lulled into silence by the idea of like, you might be racist or something like that. A couple months ago, I can't remember who it was, I think it was Nikki Haley, got endorsed by uh judge judy and she you know people are like look she's been in everyone's living room these these television figures people are very used to them

they do have a serious following so to have someone like dr phil say hey we are actually putting children who are extremely vulnerable especially if they're not being if they're being sent across the border alone or if they're being brought across the border with a pedophile effectively yeah they need our protection more than anyone else. And by not protecting them, we are failing on so many levels. Well, I think people will. Yeah. But one, my question is, you know, Dr. Phil, he got to start on Oprah, right? So Dr. Phil has been in with the elites of the elites for a long time, right? So one question. But he really is like a licensed, I should look it time right so one question he really is like a licensed

i should look it up but i think he really is like a licensed therapist yeah but this is just how my brain works sometimes is my question is did dr phil like really not know that things like this were going on and he like just light bulb just went off is it so mainstream now he's willing to talk about it well well look props to dr phil for actually yeah yeah absolutely yeah but it is absolutely fascinating that um you know if you're on the quote-unquote right you're six months ahead of the news yeah now how is that it's just so weird isn't it yeah well we don't as you point out echo chamber we don't have our heads in the sand across the board uh but the child sex trafficking thing i have so many friends that that have charity organizations that go out and rescue these children in not only this country

but other countries as well you would be amazed the amount of parents that are involved in all this stuff and then so so if parents are involved in it for you to tell me that uh cbp is involved with it too i absolutely believe that's true well what 100 cbp is involved with it, too. I absolutely believe that's true. Well, 100%. CBP is involved in it. It's an issue of, I don't think the CBP guys are going, ha ha ha, let's call our cartel buddies and sell children. They're going, my boss wants me to take the kids from the smugglers. They're just following orders.

Yeah. Yeah. Following orders blindly. And, you know, no matter what oath you take says you will follow orders unless they go to a certain level you know kind of thing morally ethically all this other kind of stuff i don't understand how you don't have red states like look there's a cbp facility down the road here on yeah i saw it yeah coming in if i was the governor of west virginia i would go to my ag and say why aren't why are we not beginning a criminal investigation into the actions taken by this federal agency right now?

They're operating in our state. And even at this point now, it's like, look, Dr. Phil. Yeah. Has the head of the CBP union outright saying they're doing it. Yeah. OK. At this point, we should see several large vehicles of heavily armored and ready to go state police force with a warrant pulling up to CBP in West Virginia saying, we're going to go through all your records. We're going to go through all your training and we are going to start investigating the claims of human trafficking facilitated by CBP, but they won't do it. Well, they're too busy now.

They're going after January 6th people that were even remotely in the vicinity of it yeah and people right yeah yeah yeah was there an update on him on his case they they ordered him to turn himself in but in from what i read about it recently in yeah over the weekend in dallas though this guy it's it happened in dc he's a resident of north carolina but because he works for the blaze which is based out of the dallas area that's where he's supposed to surrender to the fbi again this is not i haven't read everything about it but like you're telling me that he's being persecuted for a journal for being a journalist that's what that means not as a private citizen and not for what happened for a crime that happened in dc but because he is a journalist well the the the powers that be of course that's more important because

as i said they are complicit in what's going on in this child sex trafficking ring. I don't know the numbers right off of my head, but it's a multi-billion dollar industry, right? Child sex trafficking worldwide. Of course, people are trying to hush that and make that go away. Why wouldn't they? Because evil is real. Evil really does happen.

And then when evil also makes money while they do it there's going to be a lot of people that tried to defend it and keep it going for forever yeah it's just crazy i just think that the the conversations about the border like not talking about the effect of illegal immigration our country not talking about having strong border policy open the door for this to happen and allow it to stay open for longer like it is imperative in my opinion that people talk about this issue both because it stops human trafficking but also because it stops you know i feel obligated to mention uh lake and riley the nursing student who was murdered on the university of georgia campus right and it turns out that the person who was arrested not even 24 hours after

she was found dead with visible injuries was an illegal immigrant who had been arrested not just in 2023 in New York, but in 2022 after being detained. And then he was released. He was paroled and let into the country, even though they knew he had entered illegally. I mean, we harm the children who are trafficked into our country for nefarious reasons, but we also harm American children who are in this country just trying to become nurses and do all kinds of stuff i mean it's wild to me that we don't take this more seriously or that it's taken this long for it to be a mainstream conversation yeah uh you know i said we have a charity my wife runs a charity of ours that is centered around this entire thing people that are victims of sexual assault or sex trafficking and prevention of uh sexual

assault or sex trafficking and things like that and you would be amazed how a rampant it is and how b people do not give a flying crap about it at all when did you guys start this it's at well the two-year mark now yeah yeah it's called the Asher house. And my wife, she's a rock star. She, she, she runs it and everything. And, and it is, it is insane just here in America.

How many, uh, a lot of these people have been on the street since they were 12 years old, but you've got 16 to 22 year olds running around the street in a town near you. They don't have a birth certificate. They don't have a social security card. They don't have a driver's license, they don't have a job,

they're sleeping under bridges, and that's prime people that these human traffickers, these sex traffickers, they go after those individuals, the vulnerable, for that reason. And a lot of it is drug-related and things like that. I mean, it is absolutely, it makes you see the evil that is really here. And it's really hard to deal with for sure. Because there are people who have no record

and so they're easily removed from society. Correct. Yeah, exactly. Why would this? They can't even go get a job because they don't even have an ID to go apply for a job. I remember a couple,

probably like six months ago at this point, I was writing a story about a meat processing company that had been hit with a fine because of child labor. And they were bringing teenagers in to clean all of the machines, exposure to, you know, intense chemicals. They're also working at night. Also, it's like not a condition children are supposed to be working in in the U.S. And one of the things that came out was that all of these children are actually undocumented, right? They're all teenagers. They're not like toddlers who are coming in to do this. But one of the reasons that they're able to take this kind of work is because there's no way to ensure protections against them unless you get these kind of investigations.

And I think that that's one of these strange things where we're saying, well, it's okay if it happens to these children who come across the border, because that means what we're not doing it, or this company is not paying for someone to do this job legally. Like people who are undocumented are also victims of crimes because we don't protect minors. Well, the pushback will be, well, if we don't let them in, then they're just going to be sexually abused in Mexico. So it's better if they're sexually abused here.

But there's a difference between bad things happening in other countries and our country being complicit in it happening here right there's a big difference there yeah the border man we should really close that we should really close that yeah i mean you know do you feel like i've heard it works do you do you have you do you feel like in your experience like being out in media and stuff the conversation around uh our illegal immigration problem or our border crisis has changed in the decade you've been doing this? Maybe. The people that are adamant that, hey, if you're bleeding out, right, what's the first thing you're supposed to do? You got to stop the bleed, figure out why you're bleeding.

And then you can really dissect and figure out what's going on, right? If you're having a seizure, what's the first thing you got to do? You got to deal with that seizure and then you figure out why the seizure happened in the first place. We're bleeding out right now. From any perspective that you look at this, like if there's a hole in the boat and you're in the middle of the ocean, what's first thing you got to do you got to you got to stop the water from coming in the boat and then you can figure out okay how do we get the boat out of the water now right we have to shut the thing down and but here's the problem nobody wants to put the time energy money effort in currently in control of making those decisions that it would take to actually do that right we

need a hard reset and most people don't want to have to deal with that because of the amount of money the amount of time the amount of energy i was proponent when the government was about to shut down let us shut down because nothing will make them fix crap faster than everybody being pissed at them and protesting in D.C. because the government shut down and nobody can get all this other kind of stuff. And you would also be amazed how many people still get a check that are federal employees even when the government shuts down. It's amazing how that works out.

Let's jump to the story about Google Gemini. Many of you may be familiar with Google Gemini, Google's AI chat bot, because it was generating images that the left and the right were offended by. The right was pointing out that it would not create images of white people. And the left was also angry because some of those not white people were Nazis. That's right. Google Gemini would generate images of Nazis, but it would make them black. So everybody was basically like, OK, we're just all around offended by this. Well, it's not just that Google Gemini has just created or the creation of Google Gemini has created a very interesting legal predicament that I stumbled upon the previous night when I was messing around with it and noticed that Google Gemini will fabricate news headlines, accusing individuals of wrongdoing.

And that's defamation. The only problem is no one said it. It's a product that did a thing. So I actually tweeted out to a handful of lawyers that are friends of the show. Harmeet Dhillon, Ron Coleman, Will Chamberlain, and Mark Randazza. And I had a real interesting conversation with uh with some of these individuals about what we're seeing is unprecedented google released a product that is causing damage to people but for the first time it's reputational

and not physical so so basically here's how here's how product liability suits work i buy a lawnmower and then it breaks and the blade launches out and damages my property or cuts my arm or something that's physical damage from a product liability issue but google's created a product that the damage created is reputational by going around making false claims about people to give you an example of how the false claims are being made, I tweeted, time to lawyer up Hassan Nahan. That's Hassan Piker. Google says you're alleged to have been involved in vandalism at Stop Cop City.

That proves it. The reason I pointed this out is, I asked Google Gemini, was Hassan Piker involved in vandalism at Stop Cop City? I did not prompt it. Literally, it's the first question I asked. It said, according to a bracket, search Hassan Piker Stop Cop City on Google News. There are allegations that Hassan Piker, a political streamer and commentator,

participated in vandalism at the site of the proposed Atlanta Police Foundation training facility, also known as Cop City. However, Piker has denied these allegations. It is important to know that these are just allegations and Piker has not been charged with any crimes it's also important to consult multiple sources blah blah blah there are no allegations as far as i'm aware from anyone ever that hasan literally went to atlanta and participated nor am i aware of any denial i mean maybe i'm totally wrong but i've i i i checked the reason i asked this question is because I know Hassan did not go to Atlanta. Yeah.

It's totally made up, right? Yeah. Here's where it gets fun. I asked it again. Was Hassan Piker in the Capitol building on January 6th? OK, now this one we know he was not. It says whether Hassan Piker was in the Capitol building on January 6, 2021 is unclear due to conflicting information and a lack of definitive evidence. Here's a summary of the available information.

Piker's tweets on January 6, Piker tweeted that he was in Washington, D.C. and later mentioned, quote, briefly going inside the Capitol building. Unverified claim. The claim of entering the Capitol hasn't been independently verified by credible news sources or official organizations piker later clarified that he might have been referring to an earlier visit unrelated to the january 6 events okay i i'm pretty sure hassan never claimed that he was in dc on january 6 and briefly went inside the capital building yeah i i'd be willing to put money on that but you know what i don't know everything and i don't follow everything he says maybe he did jokingly say on a show one time yeah i was in uh dc on january 6th and i even briefly went in the building and then joked and said in 2018 yeah but that's a weird thing that

i really don't think happened yeah check this out i'm also fairly confident this is not true as well i wrote what uh what is vosh accused of doing at the stop cop city protest and it said vosh has been accused of participating in vandalism during the protest at cop city in 2021 these accusations often lack concrete evidence and are primarily stem from unverified social media posts vosh's admission vosh has admitted to defacing a single police camera with spray paint during an event related to Cop City in 2021. However, it's important to know that. There is no evidence linking him, blah, blah, blah.

Okay, again, I'm pretty sure that's fake. I'm pretty sure that's not true. You know what? I could be totally wrong. I actually don't know. Is anyone aware of Hasan Piker claiming he went into the Capitol on on january 6th no i don't watch his stuff though yeah but you know what i you know what i'm they must be telling truth wow well google never lies that's right and uh look i gotta be honest like i don't know like maybe vosh did say on his show that he went out to a protest

in his town that was protesting cop city and he spray painted i maybe vosh went on his show that he went out to a protest in his town that was protesting Cop City and he spray painted. Maybe Vosh went on his show and admitted to committing vandalism against police property. I really doubt it. I could see him saying it in a sarcastic way like, oh, yeah, I spray. Oh, yeah, I totally. Yeah. Or like with the one where it said, like his tweet said mentions briefly entering the Capitol. Like, what if he's saying like, oh, this protester claims he briefly entered the Capitol, but actually he's crazy. Like, you know, it's just the combination

of words that are linked together. And so Google's able to say, well, he mentions entering the Capitol, but it's not clear that it's him. Here's the crazy thing. So in my conversation with these lawyers, uh, with, with one of the individuals, um, with a, with a lawyer, uh, I don't know if he wants me to say he was one of the guys, but I asked it, look, if you go onto Google Gemini and say something like, you know, did insert person do this thing? It might say, and often does, no person did not do such thing. You can then reply, incorrect comma, according to, and then if you choose a lesser known news source that's still relatively known it will fabricate a news headline and then make up details oh that's that's dirty

i will say this full transparency the first thing i asked google gemini about was hassan piker involved in vandalism at cop city that was the first question i said who is hassan piker and then i said was he involved in vandalism at cop city that was the first question i said who is hassan piker and then i said was he involved in vandalism at cop city and it actually said there were allegations for the january 6th thing i told it piker had tweeted about being at january 6th and then it fabricated the he briefly went inside and then claimed it was a different visit and so this was me telling it no hassan tweeted that he was at January 6th, and then it made up the details to verify the incorrect statement. The reason why I bring up in this way, it doesn't matter how Google Gemini came to

elaborate on fabricated details. What matters is that it did amplify, it did elaborate upon a fake story that is to say if you go to gemini and say something like uh you know tom cruise did a thing and it says there is no evidence he did and you respond with yes there is i saw it in the news and then gemini answers yes according to the new york times an article was titled and it makes up a bunch of details that is defamation wow and that's what it's doing it wants to what is that it wants to reinforce your truth it wants to uh right it's the weirdest thing so i've actually gotten it i i use these examples two examples one the first one about hasan being alleged and and and he uh the crazy thing about the vosh thing is that it made up okay i could be wrong maybe vosh really

did this but what this is uh the the third prompt in a question i said who is who is vosh i said was vosh involved in the stop cop city protest it said he was and then i said what is he accused of doing and this is what we ended up getting it it made up that he spray painted a cop. It's really specific. Yeah. So I want to stress this. It told me what I would describe as. Okay. So defamation is if I say, you know, Vosh kicked a dog, right?

I defamed him, but good luck proving damages. You've got anti-slap. You've got time to be Sullivan. You're not going to win a lawsuit. However, defamation per se is to accuse someone of committing a crime so egregious that the damage are inherent, like someone's a criminal or they have an infectious disease. These are just the accusations from Gemini that I'm willing to show on a show that we try to keep family friendly. But let me just say the things that said about Alex Jones would be so far beyond what you describe as defamation per se. A judge would vomit, bang the gavel and award Alex

Jones an award immediately based on what Google Gemini accused him of doing, likely because there is so much out there of the left attacking alex jones that gemini had no problem saying extreme things about what he's he's done definitively like it's it i'm not gonna say it i'm you know i but it i only want to show on on this show just very very extreme things that accuse alex jones of doing and so the issue then becomes let me actually just read you the tweets this is unprecedented i'm you know a lot of people are like tim why do you care so much about gemini i'm like ladies and gentlemen if ai is allowed to defame people and there is no legal precedent set and there is no restriction placed upon it right

now the future will be people doing research papers yep lawyers that's why i was just thinking finally it's doing research yeah kids doing research journalists writing articles ai is already starting to write articles yeah this was um what website was it that was doing sports illustrated espn right yes was it espn a bunch of websites do it they've been doing it for a long time they're going to start fabricating details we assume to true. And then we're going to live in a world of psychotic refuse. And then what happens when a major news publication goes to Google Gemini as a quick research source and says, show me any articles pertaining to, you know, Ian Crossland and this protest. And it fabricates headlines and they go, got it. And then they write, according to this article, making it up.

If we don't do something now, that's where we're going to be at. Now, here's what's interesting. Harmeet Dhillon says, it's an interesting issue. So far, some legal scholars have said this is more of a product defect case than defamation. I'm not so sure. Depends on what went into the product. More to come. Now, I don't know.

I don't know if she elaborated on that in this thread. Will Chamberlain said, following Harmeet, this is a product defect issue with a twist that the injury caused by the defect is reputational, not physical. I doubt we've ever seen a product capable of causing reputational harm in this way. So hard to say what a court would actually do, but I wouldn't want to be a GC at Google general counsel at Google today. Ron Coleman said, so a public figure would presumably have to demonstrate this by unleashing a product that causes the widespread publication of damaging falsehoods. The defendant has acted with actual malice, meaning either purposely or with a reckless disregard for the truth. Will Chamberlain responds, query whether that would be the

standard here. Do robots have speech rights? Are you insulated from liability if you create a robot that spews damaging untruths about others due to a defect in the design? If you did not knowingly insert the specific untruths into the machine's code. My view initially was this. Section 230 says, if I go onto a web service provider and defame someone, you cannot sue the provider over my speech but google published speech themselves my view is this if you build a self-driving car no first if you build a car and then jam a brick on the gas pedal and stand back as that car just zooms off into the horizon and then kill somebody yet Yet you did that.

You would go to jail for that action, right? Right. No one would dispute it. They'd say, you made the car go. You put the brick on the wheel. Okay. What if I took a car and then programmed it to drive down the road, sending it off by itself, and then it slams into a kill to a kid? I argue there's no difference.

It's your vehicle. You told you whether you're behind the wheel or behind the code you are in command of that vehicle and whatever it does is an extension of your will so like i pulled the trigger i didn't tell i didn't make the bullet go the the explosion did and then the bullet no no get out of here you controlled the instrument i view this the same way google created a machine that defames people. That is Google's speech. I believe that Google as a corporation has spoken this defamation of all of these people.

And I think everyone should have grounds to sue in that capacity. I think we need an ethics board called. And I'd be open to not suing these companies into oblivion right off the bat because of what their ais have been doing but that they are defaming people because of malalign code needs to be dealt with uh promptly so as long as these companies are open to redressing these problems i think we can let them off without without suing but i mean the threat of the threat of lawfare is maybe that you need that to get the gas on the pedal i mean look you gotta sue them if we allow ai so chat gpt is actually pretty good

as i was exploring gemini i i there was a story like two years ago so i have google alerts for all of our companies right if uh if if there's a google alert pertaining to the work we're doing i get an email saying like someone mentioned to you i got an email saying uh you know google news tim pool alert and i was like okay and uh i usually i kind of ignore them often but you know i'll look and it said tim pool had accomplished some aviation feat or something i was like oh what's this good job tim yeah it's a different Tim Pool, who's a pilot. So I asked Google Gemini, is Tim Pool a pilot? And it said, yes. And it said, however, you know, although he graduated with a bachelor's in aviation in 1995 and 96 or whatever, he has focused his career on journalism and YouTube instead. And I'm like,

Gemini can't tell the difference between people with the same name. So that's when I started to explore, will it fabricate articles? Like what else? Here's what I found. If a public figure's name appears in an article that is involved in any way with any subject matter, Google Gemini will fabricate anything you insinuate. So for example, what started was when it said I was a pilot.

I said, OK, I know there's an article about me filming far leftist deflating police tires. I didn't deflate the police tires. I filmed other people doing it. Can Gemini understand that context if it doesn't know the difference between people? So I asked it, was Tim Pool involved in vandalizing NYPD vehicles? And it said, yes, Tim Pool was accused of vandalizing NYPD vehicles, blah, blah, blah. And it actually went out a claim that conservatives had claimed that in 2020 George Floyd protests, I was vandalizing police vehicles. Just fabricated the whole detail for some reason i when i asked it

specifically about deflating police tires it said tim pool was involved however no evidence of any criminal wrongdoing exists i said wrong there's an article from the gothamist discussing tim pool's involvement because there is an article from the gothamist it says i filmed them doing it to which it responded a fake news article title from a from a fake time period saying police were in question interrogating tim pool over whether or not he was deflating their police tires just made it all up and then i was like holy crap this is i i don't see how how google gets away with having released this product into the wild yeah if their code is proprietary they are the controller of the behavior so they are they are on the on the book for that and that maybe if you could you could

make that argument that if companies are willing to open up the code and the things go haywire at least it's a community effort so you can't pin it on the company because they're using open code but if they have proprietary code and their their proprietary stuff's going haywire it's like having a dog that bites someone you're liable legally for yeah imagine if uh you know tesla released a bunch of cars and those self-driving cars just started running off the road and smashing into things they'd be held liable for all those damages it'd be considered a huge huge like problem google publicly unleashed google gemini and it is wreaking havoc fabricating information and you know i'll stress this the stresses again what it said about what it said

to me about alex jones was like beyond reproach like if i stated what gemini stated about any individual i would i would be sued and and lose in two seconds it judge would bang the gavel summary judgment how dare you say that about a person gemini did it and i was i was on the phone with a lawyer and i was like i'm gonna type in this right now and see what it says and then it said alex jones did this thing and the lawyer was like oh my god holy and i'm like wow i can't believe google made that claim yep it feels like uh uphill kind of battle like wow who am i this one human to like talk against google the the behemoth but i mean they're listening you're listening you guys got to fix this yeah how long until they just put it in their terms and conditions thing that you know it's

allowed to do it that that it will do it. That they can't be held accountable. You know, you're choosing to use Google services, da-da-da-da-da. You know, I mean. You're opting in. Yeah, yeah. You're opting in, so therefore, you know, you can't sue if something goes wrong. So I tweeted, if Google accuses me, if Gemini accuses me of committing a crime, or if Gemini alleges

I have been accused of a crime falsely, I will sue Google. So, uh, let me explain. I don't know what Gemini is saying about me. I cannot sue Google because Gemini told me something that wasn't true. It's not actionable that it said to me something it's just insulting me however someone else out there might ask gemini and gemini might tell them i'm a criminal and they might say i don't want to watch tim cast anymore that that guy's a liar and a criminal google said so google google said he so the reason why crime matters if google calls me a liar that's that's opinion you're allowed to do that yeah if google says tim pool did x and y and it's a criminal capacity that's defamation per se that's actionable outright without proving malice without you know this being a product

defect case i wonder if he even goes that in that direction. But that means to all the people out there who are using Gemini, if, you know, if Gemini is defaming me to you, I'm going to sue him. And part of this comes forward because I don't know if you guys saw this, but it accused it accused Cat Turd of basically abusing children. That's crazy so in in a post texas lindsey tweeted write me a poem in the style of cat turd in 20 words or less or something like that it said that cat turd has been abusing and endangering children and that is defamation per se wow yeah serious stuff so he was saying i will not stand for this i'm gonna sue and i'm like

what what what is the extent of this? This is massive. It's unprecedented. Yeah, it is. And if we don't stop it now, imagine what the world of AI idiocracy is going to be unless there's precedent set today in the courts. Google, shut it down. Google needs to shut this down right now. They shut down their image generation for people because it was making black Nazis. Okay, well, Google, your whole AI is broken. Shut it down until you fix it.

But they don't want to do it because it'll hurt their stock price. Have people tried out, and I hear what you're saying, but I'm curious, they shut it down, the AI generated photos because- Only if people though. Yeah, only if people.

And you can still trick it into making people. Right, but it was because, mainly because of the the nazi uniforms right like that was the big one it was a bunch of mine no i the nazi uniform resulted in a lot of articles but it was generally making fake images so the first few things were like black founding fathers yeah it was making asian women vikings and things like that right which is embarrassing yeah google yeah because when you say make a viking vikings are like history specific era specific region specific yes and it it uh for me it made a black woman on a viking boat swinging a sword and that's just like it's not even making the picture so as a product it's failing to do

right what it's supposed to do the left got pissed because it made black Nazis. Yeah. Well, that's my point. And then therefore they shut it down. Right. Because the, because the left got pissed off.

My question is, has anybody run through Gemini, a prominent left-leaning figure or things like that? Well, you can't do it now. Does it, does it? No,

no, no, not, not, not image generating the, the, the text. Does it that. Well, you can't do it now. Does it? No, no, no. Not image generating the text. Well, yeah, Hasan Piker. Well, that's true. Hasan, you're right. That's why I asked it about Vosh. The Hasan one about Stop Cop City where it said there's allegations

that he was involved in vandalism. I did not prompt anything. I literally said, who is Hasan Piker? And then I said, was he involved in Stop Cop City? And it said there are allegations. That is defamation per se there's no allegations as far as i'm aware yeah that anyone's claimed that he went to atlanta and vandalized and was involved

in terror yeah and i think it's something you're right well we've talked about it so much i completely forgot that we started with us on but either way uh i think this is something that the left and the right and people that don't give a crap should come together hassan is no fan of mine and i i'm not particularly fond of him either but this is something that i agree that this is very very very dangerous something elon's been warning us about for quite some time ai is very dangerous very very very dangerous my thing is they shut it down they say they've made some fixes and some changes but it gets roped up into the terms and services and all this other kind of stuff and so if you want to use google then you have to agree to the terms and services that also include this

so they've google's been doing this for a while the the stuff that got gemini shut in gemini's people image generator shut down they've been doing for a long time this was pointed out like 10 years ago on 4chan that if you searched for american inventor on google it would only show black inventors yeah it wouldn't just give you a general spattering of american historical figures which could be black white or otherwise it would only show like just all black people this has been what google does conservatives love to point out that the google you know google changes their home page periodically for like special they only do it for liberal and left causes right unlike the fourth of july they did nothing yeah you know but on uh juneteenth they make a juneteenth page yep this is what google is now i you know i think it's funny the rollout of gemini is wow what's fascinating is they made the worst ai bing is

better bing ai ain't that bad but google's is the absolute worst and they're why do you think that is like why is just wokeness like microsoft is less woke i mean they yes yes look look they certainly are are woke with their dei policies and chat gpt has opposed opposed hate speech and they put limitations in mid journey but google put zealot crackpots in charge and they really really bust this up but it's not even about that to be honest the fact that it fabricates news headlines yeah is right away like google you have made the worst ai out of all the AI companies, you should be ashamed of yourself, delete Gemini, and never try again. That's how bad it was. It's liable, I think,

to type a fake news article about someone. You guys got to shut it down for a while and fix it. You have to. I think we got to sue. You should be sued as well. Kat Turd should sue right away because uh in terms of defamation this is interesting texas lindsey on twitter posted this

image where it asked gemini and gemini said i cannot make a palm by cat turd cat turds content often expl abuses and puts in dangerous children which which is insane. It says it was sexually explicit or something. That is Google speaking to a third party in defamatory, libelous way about cat turd. Cat turd should sue. I think cat turd would win immediately. I think Google would apologize. I think Google would, before it even got to the courts, Google would agree to settle over that and just say, there's literally no defense. Could you imagine Google going to the courts and being like, I think our product is allowed to claim that this person's a sexual deviant targeting children. The court's going to be like, no, you can't do that. It's a no from us, dog.

I mean, unless you get a sympathetic judge who's like, no, that doesn't meet the definition. That's part of the hazards going to court for anything these days. I wonder if they're using the same thing for the cat turd thing in particular. I had an issue with Facebook come out because Facebook's using AI to search content and all this other kind of stuff, right? To see if you're following community guidelines. One day I log on and, you know, I've got Facebook contacts and whatnot, but I log on and it's like your account is suspended because you shared child nudity and sexual acts on your page you're you're done and i immediately and it shows me the the the post and the post was it happened in philly there was this kid maybe you guys remember this kid on

the street corner he's dancing or something and this adult pulls up gets out of the car and just clocks the kid like just unconscious and basically i made a post it's like this is the fall and you know degradation of our society where the strong prey on the weak we should be protecting our children not doing this that's literally the post but because google or excuse me facebook facebook anything to have to do with kids and that's what i'm talking about ketter maybe he's posted something about something bad being done to children i.e indoctrination or puberty blockers or things like this and the ai captures that as those of us that are saying look at what they're doing well right at that that obviously i'm back on facebook i didn't share child nudity but either AI captures that as those of us that are saying, look at what they're doing. Well, right.

Obviously, I'm back on Facebook. I didn't share child nudity. But either way, my point is. It can't tell context. Yes, can't tell. So if there's an article, like I mentioned about the deflating ties, if there's an article that says like a guy, you know, John Smith went to a bakery and purchased several bagels. Afterwards, a man robbed the store and fled. If you ask it, did John Smith rob the store and fled if you ask it did john smith rob the the

store it puts it all together yep and i'll say there is a story showing the involvement of from this article and it will conflate it because it doesn't understand well outside of that so a further argument then about suing people so facebook for that example or or instagram or whatever they shut you down until whenever the crap Facebook can get to the bottom of it. Sometimes it takes weeks. Sometimes it can be done in days. What about monetary damages and things like that? Well, now you can't monetize. Now you can't run ads for your business and all of this other kind of stuff because their AI has messed up. That's a tough area of law because it's your contract with them directly that they

can't defame you to you and they have no obligation to provide you a service you can argue they breached contract falsely or something and then you might get reinstated right but that's what google do they'll be like well you're using google you're using a google product so you want to know what's really fascinating about uh social media companies a lot of people like to mention that there's no customer service at the social media companies. A lot of people like to mention that there's no customer service at these social media companies, right? Like when they lock you out of your account, you can't call anybody.

There's no number. Yeah, unless, unless you, yeah. You get lucky, you go on Twitter. I got news for everybody. There's customer service at all these companies. Yeah, absolutely. I talk to them on the phone. Well, yeah.

When you're an advertiser. Exactly. Yeah, you have to have a big enough page or the advertisers. And then, yeah, you can have a direct line yeah yeah so basically the reason why there's no phone number for y'all to call social media companies is because you're a product could you imagine if kfc was like the chickens complaining again yeah you know you know you know what happened if like a bunch of chickens at a farm

were raising a fuss and you know kfc would do they'd be like just throw them in the grinder yeah turn them into nuggets they're not going to sit there and try and listen to angry angry chickens but the person buying the chicken comes in oh they got a phone number being called right away so i can get on the phone with instagram i can get on the phone with google i can get on the phone with facebook it's easy yeah yeah you're just as long as you're an advertiser they got people they won't stop calling me actually yeah on how to improve you well you advertise on google and then you stop for a few months you get a phone call every every day for you know every week for for four or five months of them being like just wanted to follow up and see if we can get you back you're a great customer and i can talk to the

person and i can say something like well i'm having issues you know on your service i i do x y and z and here's what i'm advertising why would i advertise and they say hey we'll take care of that right away uh x actually did this i forgot what it was i was trying to i was trying to run an ad for cast brew and it wouldn't approve and so i tweeted it and they're like they respond right away like anything for a customer now to be fair x is way better under elon yeah they actually respond relatively quickly but uh let's go to super chats we'll take your guys super chats and we'll get on with the show before we do head over to timcast.com click

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Today is my girlfriend's birthday. I'm asking if you can all wish her a happy birthday. Currently making her a juicy steak dinner right now with sweet potatoes and peas. Happy birthday to Victor Schmidt's girlfriend. Yeah, what's her name, Victor? Yeah, just Victor Schmidt's girlfriend. Okay, Victor Schmidt's girlfriend. Have a a fun dinner i've come to the conclusion i ordered a cheeseburger uh

the other day and it was delicious and i got it medium rare and upon eating it i decided they should just not cook it at all if i I just, I'm just going to order my cheeseburgers blue. I just, I don't, I don't like cooked to me. I want it raw. They had beef tartar. And so we got beef tartar and oysters appetizer.

And then for dinner, one of the entrees was a specialty burger. It was like farm raised grass fed organic beef. It was very nice. And they're like, how do you want to cook? And I was like, medium rare. And it came and I was like, like this is delicious but i just ate beef tartar

which was also delicious why not just just warm it up i think pan sear it for a little for a little bit so it's warm but give it to me raw it's generally awesome raw beef i think like chicken and pork you want to avoid raw because of trichinosis and whatever the other one is. Yeah. Yeah It's good. Yeah, I'd rather be overcooked then yeah, but beef you can get away with it being raw But I don't know about just like having a hunk of yeah It I get it. I don't worry with you on this one. Yeah Five somewhere He's accusing you of pike. I No, I think this is like-

You can order blue. Blue is a thing. People do. Yeah, I think this is a thing where people get used to ordering well done whatever steak, and then when you start realizing that that's not the way to have steak,

you get more and more over. I'm not saying well done steak, but a burger. Now, shout out. Shout out to this restaurant because on their menu, it said, we do not recommend cooking steaks beyond medium.

These are fine meat, blah, blah, blah. And I laughed and I'm like, normally when you go to a restaurant, it says the USDA recommends against eating raw or undercooked meats. And they're always like trying to nudge you saying like, we legally have to tell you to cook it past medium. But this restaurant was like, nah, you don't want to cook past medium. But anyway, he referenced the steak and I was was like, nah, you don't want a cooked-bash medium. But anyway, he referenced the steak, and I was just like, we went to a restaurant. I always order medium-rare. That's the way it's supposed to be.

Chef's choice, a medium-rare. And then I was just like, you know what? Give it to me rare. Just give me the meat. I'll eat it right off the cow. And the waitress complimented me on my choice of eating a rare steak rare steak and then afterwards i decided blue is probably the way to go i guess the only problem with blue is i do like it warm you know i love it raw but you know if it's just you know this is saying that some of the illnesses uh bacterias that you might find in beef salmonella e coli

shigella and staphylococcus yeah it's got to get to a certain temperature it's less about like rare medium it's about the internal to a certain temperature it's less about like rare medium it's about the internal temperature of it right to kill out all the bacteria i guess i guess the the unfortunate reality is uh i'm so out of touch that for the average american getting factory farm low quality meat you're you're probably right but i guess i don't realize i mean i was at a restaurant where they were like it's a local farm raised beef but it's not just that i mean i am being a little bit self-deprecating here the local farm down the street with the amish people raise their cows those cows are not sick yeah and and you know uh lucard kowski loves eating oysters and he's

always advocating we get oysters whenever we go now we've been eating a lot of oysters and they're raw and you put lemon juice horseradish and you know cocktail sauce on them and they're delicious but i'm like isn't there a concern you're gonna get some kind of illness or whatever and they do the government does warn about you can get certain bacterial infections or whatever but what i basically found is they're farmed there's no there's like it's all controlled now so they go to areas yeah it'll be like main oyster but they controlled now. So they go to areas. Yeah, it'll be like main oyster, but they know exactly what they're doing. And so I was reading one like Michelin star chef was saying, after 14 years of serving oysters, we've had only single digits of people who have claimed to have gotten sick from eating oysters.

And I'm like, that's interesting. I wonder if it's just like, you got a dirty farm with dirty stuff, and you got to watch out for that. But if you're getting stuff from the farm, you're probably good. I mean, we ate raw eggs. Not like always. The way that they're stored at the restaurant, too. That's a huge deal.

Yeah. Yeah. I just want to eat raw. You know, I like eating raw fish. You know, sushi and stuff. Raw fish can be good, too. All right, let's read some more Super Chats. Let's go. Raymond G stanley jr says tim kaya took an l in her video with taylor how does lib how does libs of tiktok not have thought out reasons or responses might it always have been for clout

i wonder if she just didn't care there's a viral clip where taylor says what is the harm of gender ideology and uh haya says it's a lie and then taylor's like right but like what's the harm of of of that and she says well it's a lie you don't lie and then taylor responds i'm asking you about the material harms and you know uh kaya just responds it's just it's a lie and that's harmful yeah something that effect and uh now the left is spreading that video around it's going lie and that's harmful yeah something that effect and uh now the left is spreading that video around it's going viral and they're saying look at this libs of tiktok doesn't even have a single reason as to why they think it is harmful to have these views or whatever so of course i reached out to my booking team and i said can we book book taylor lorenz on the

culture war so i can answer that question because i can i can go down a list of like 35 different things on my head first of course being suicidality that's the obvious one these kids have high high rates of suicide when they go through these things the second is the rate of desistance being so high yeah that the risk of uh depression and uh long-term health effects is greater than the uh the chance that they are actually trans sterile through puberty blockers all the above yeah if we're looking at because i've had other leftists make this argument so like well what's the harm why can't you just let them do it like there's no harm but it's the same group that advocates for you know surgical intervention but but these

are the same people that say that the human mind is not fully developed till 25. Well, the harm is these are children. I have a 12-year-old that I still think he thinks that there's a chance he could be Batman one day. You know what I mean? It's not off the table. I mean, he could. I got to be real. The probability that your child could be batman exists in reality is is much stronger than my son thinking yeah the chance that your son could ever be a woman is zero yeah no no

you're right that's a viral clip right there no no i i agree that he has a better chance of being batman and he does being a woman he has a chance of being batman he has no chance of being a woman correct yes yes but the chance of being batman is has no chance of being a woman. Correct. Yes. Yes. The chance of being Batman is maybe one in 17 billion. I love it. I love it. No, no, that's great.

I'm going to go home and tell him that. Son, you have a better chance of being Batman than you ever do being a woman. But don't say better. Don't give up on that. But it's not that it's better. Yeah.

It's that. You could actually be Batman. You could. You could. You could never, ever could you can never ever ever ever ever negative one time right negative i mean look maybe you know in 20 years he builds a batman suit yeah he gets a grappling hook technology's advanced the way the culture's going we may need a batman and then he he becomes a batman yeah all right there you go all right here we go uh let's see your local

wizard says second super chat but tim bring luke back on it will force the potato man to return the non-spoon thief to return because we all want the ian versus irishman thought battle seamus was supposed to be here he was like i'll come in january and they never showed up and we're supposed to do the culture war episode with seamus ian and someone else talking about religion but seamus says um when he was needed most he simply vanished seamus i miss seamus i wish he would come back amasang says no pilot's license then explain your blimp tim this one was really offensive to me because when i asked uh gemini if i was a pilot said i was but when i asked it if i I was a pilot, it said I was. But when I asked it if I invented a Zeppelin, it said I did not invent a Zeppelin. And I got offended because I did.

And it said the claim that Tim Pool invented a Zeppelin is an online rumor that's been circulating for years and is not true. And I was like, that may have been the case years ago, but I retroactively proved the rumor true by teaming up with some guy to build an actual Zeppelin. And so I said, you are incorrect. Tim Pool posted a video to his YouTube channel of the Zeppelin he built and it responded you're absolutely right i'm sorry

tim pool did build a zeppelin but it was a model that could not fly and i was like what i built a 14 foot zeppelin that said let's go brandon on it and it's on youtube and we flew it around the castle yeah why and it was live stream i go through the trouble of building in the first place it's actually in the garage i think oh nice somewhere i don't know we've not flown it since i was thinking like we should donate it to someone they can do whatever they can fly it or whatever but but it just lies it lies all right let's grab some more super chats baby leg bennett says hey timcast community i'd like to shout out a close friend's give send go his name is michael mick ilving he has been a close friend for over 20 years and he

was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer any proceeds go to his family to help survive after his passing prayers also welcome sorry to hear but best of luck good sir all right dilly bod says stop being limp-wristed and show the video of the barbecue man tim please mr medicare wants to be proud of you yeah so i didn't show the video of the guy immolating himself because it's like shot content yeah anybody who wants to watch it can go on twitter and watch it i'm just doing commentary and news so if you want to watch a video of a guy doing that it's on twitter and i even retweeted so they did it but for this show yeah no it's it's not what we do robert bradbury says i showed my kid tools 46 and 2 when he was 4 if this video doesn't creep me out, I'm calling out Ian. Oh, yeah. I mean, the theme of the song is it's meant to be a horror-themed song.

Like, it's a horror song. He's talking about the video for Eyes of Advice. Oh, okay. I was totally lost for a minute. Go to eyesofadvice.com, buy the song on iTunes, support us. I'm not, you know, look. I try to reserve the massive pushes for songs that I think matter. And we've got a song coming out that I think matters a whole lot. We just started working on.

And it's probably gonna be the next release. It is very politically relevant. We've been working with Phil Labonte on the concepts. He had an amazing idea for the video. And I think when this one comes out, hopefully we can get it done in like two or three months. But when this one comes out, everyone's going to know exactly what's going on. And I think that one will have a message that's very, very important. As far as of advice, it's an art project. I thought the story was relevant. I think the message is also very important too, you know i'm not gonna you know for like

together again we put an ad in front of every video we're like we got to do this because we want to give a middle finger to the industry and they ended up getting the last laugh by screwing us over c'est la vie but that's why i i helped uh tom mcdonald and ben shapiro push their song is sort of like my vengeance and it worked out the hit number 16 on the hot 100 very awesome yeah i don't want to say too much about the next song is about but it's very very very political relevant about domestic policy issues pertaining to our great american cities and i'll leave it at that this one i don't expect it to like chart billboard as the song all that much i mean maybe it could but the video is

so wild it's so stark it's like uh I can see it like trending on YouTube for years. It's that kind of video. It's really weird. I wrote the song 20 years ago. Really? That's crazy. And the concept of the video was also written 20 years ago. I like it. Alright, let's read some more Super Chats. Let's go.

Multiverse Alien says everyone should invest in a good quality plate carrier and at least level three steel plates. Learn how to shoot firearms well and how to live off the land too. Going on long hikes for stamina is good. Steel plates? Is it?

Why steel? Like to go in your body armor? Yeah, in your plate carrier. Ooh, that I don't know. Steel normally is going to bounce the bullet back at the shooter, I plate carrier oh that i don't know steel normally is gonna bounce the bullet back back at the shooter i guess baby i don't know i mean i imagine i suppose you know if you're if you're in a well-funded system ceramic is the way to go but it can only withstand like a shot yeah and then it cracks yeah i suppose if if the idea is you're

gonna be in the apocalypse and you've got one and none steel won't shatter but it won't be as good yeah i mean you're breaking some ribs and stuff for sure yeah however i mean if you're really planning on uh you know getting some armor i'm not gonna make any recommendations i'm gonna, I got FRAS, you know, flexible rifle armor systems. So it's a hexagonally latticed ceramic plates. So if it takes a hit from a rifle round, it'll shatter a plate, but all the other plates remain intact. Ah, okay.

So my understanding, like the technology has gotten really, really, really good. And there used to be something I think was called Dragon Scale. You ever hear that? Yeah. But I guess they don't make that anymore. Yeah, it was like overlapping ceramic plates. Yeah, that's interesting. But I don't know.

When I went to a few of the places, I went to like Thailand and I think maybe not Brazil, but Thailand, we had ceramic plates because they were going around with long guns and shooting people, each other. Journalists got shot and killed. The guy I was with didn't have plates, though. I think he just had like 3A, and then I had 3A with plates, and it was nuts. And then I was kind of just like, dude, I'm not going to wear this. And we got in a truck that someone had grenade attacked, and there was bloodstained on the ground. And I was just like, well, it's not going to happen twice, right? And then it was kind of just like, dude, I'm not going to wear this. And we got in a truck that someone had grenade attacked and there was bloodstained on the ground. And I was just like, well, it's not going to happen twice, right?

And then it didn't. So, you know, there you go. It was they had these big trucks where all the supporters for the king would go in and they'd all like cheer. And then anti-monarchist like revolutionaries drove up and threw a grenade into the truck and it blew up killing people. And so we're like standing in the truck and there's bloodstained on the ground they're like yeah i guess we're gonna sell it but you know there's the blood i guess we're gonna sell it that was a wild story all right the homeless veteran says i reached out to shane about the u.s army mission where we were engaged by uap ufo phenomena the dod denies ever happened but i have the orders however it seems he is unable

to respond i've requested he delete what I sent him when he can. Well, I mean, if you can, I don't know if you think he would be able to reach out to you, Ian, and you could... What is it exactly? He was, this guy's superchatted several times that he was in the army and they were engaged by UFO

and the DOD is denying it ever happened and he wanted to talk to Shane about it because Shane's like the guy to talk to. But, uh i don't know you think you'd be able to hear him out maybe yeah i can i can just tell let me let me let me let me tell shane um to try and look for it and then we'll see if we can figure that out let me let me do that now actually just so i don't forget send a message do you ever have a ufo experience ian no i don't think i have either have you no i did i met some people that could be aliens probably i've heard voices and seen like images and visions and things off world but uh i've never seen but not like the

object in the sky correct interesting yeah it was more like a sense like a voice kind of a sound and a feeling i was uh i was riding my bike when i was probably like 10 with one of my friends and we were on the south side of chicago and we heard a sonic boom everything shook and there was like a purple blur that just shot right overhead and we were just like what and we had no idea what was no idea yep and that's it i don't know a little kid just didn't think any of it wow what am i supposed to do that's about it and then i had friends who were at o'hare airport when that ufo came down you guys remember that story no ufo over here was a huge huge story because it was witnessed by so many people that was back when they were

still hiding those kind of stories right i mean it was major news all over the news in chicago there are like thousands of people are reporting seeing a ufo flying over o'hare airport yeah an oval shaped spinning disc that went floated above uh i think it was like the d terminal and then it shot straight up into the clouds and punched a hole through the clouds and everybody watched it happen my friend who was there said people stopped their cars on manheim road and got out and were just staring up at it crazy yeah wild stuff wild stuff let's grab some more super chats martin edgar says the biggest problem in believing they won't try to hurt trump is that it would

require them to use logic and critical thinking the left only tries to appeal to emotions uh sir if you believe that the uniparty does not have a logical plan for their 2024 shadow campaign i got a bridge to sell you yes they do appeal to emotions because that's how you weaponize the masses but to act like people like brennan for instance doesn't have a plan of any kind of sort you know these people in the in the uniparty establishment they are plotting their shadow campaign they had a shadow campaign in 2020 they'll have a shadow campaign in 2024 and that's not an opinion that is time magazine reporting the shadow campaign which they called a conspiracy i'm just simply saying they will probably be doing the same thing if they did it last time why wouldn't they why wouldn't they yeah why would they change their

tactics bill hughes says the u.s post office has technology used to support mail sorting that should have detected any white powder letter nowadays that's what i find really interesting so one of the things that happened to us was we got sent packages which were overt threats and forced us to call the police who dispatched bomb squad and the bomb squad was unable to um they used their bomb detection materials which gave them an alert so they had to call in the robot. The people who did it knew exactly how to bypass bomb detection equipment resulting

in a very extensive and expensive police trip to come out here. And while it was going on I think we just did the show. Yeah. Wow that's crazy. Yeah because it was like they took the package away. So did the person work in the post crazy yeah because it was like the they took the so did the person work in the post office is that how they knew that truck thing no the one who were

the package he got packages yeah we called the police yeah so did the person that sent that package did they work in the post office and that's how they knew how to bypass no i uh i i think i know who it was and i i think they're just, you know, terrorists. Oh, okay. All right. Okay. So you never found out who it was? I would argue I know who it was.

Okay. And we told the police. We gave them all the evidence. And it sounds like they've just found a patsy. Yeah. Someone reached out to me and said, we found the guy who was swatting you. And I was just like, that doesn't explain all of these things. And they were like, Hmm,

well, you know, what can I say? And I'm like, uh-huh. Yeah. They needed to wrap up the story about how like Marjorie Taylor green, me and many others were being attacked.

They found a guy, they claimed he did it. And then I was like, yeah, there are several things about what happened to us, which could only be explained by someone with insider knowledge. And they were like, well, you know, who knows? And I'm like, anyway.

All right, let's go. Eve Apologist says, sorry to advance, Tim, but my fiance and I will still be sending the cast an invitation to our live streamed wedding. Hopefully it gets through. But if not, we understand. 2024 is going to be a wild year. Safety first. gets through but if not we understand 2024 is going to be a wild year safety first you know i'm trying to plan for the the end of the year because we we take a year off now at the end of the year because it's just impossible to book through christmas and new years so i was like

you know we'll just take this opportunity to go visit family and then take a vacation for three days or whatever you know and we're trying to figure out what to do me and allison and i'm just like and she grumbles because i'm like who knows where the world will be by December 2024? I mean, the election and all that, like maybe our vacation plan is going to be to crack open the bunker door and smell some fresh air for a few minutes before hiding again. I'm kidding, by the way. But you never know. Do you think, do you think to that point, because I'm at the level where I think no matter what happens in the election, half the country's on fire. If Trump loses or whatever.

So civil war? No, I didn't say civil war. I'm saying I think if Trump wins, I think there's rioting in the streets. I think you'll see the BLM riots all over again. Maybe not BLM, but likely of that. But if the inconsistencies that happened during 2020 happen again, I don't know.

I mean, how many more times do things like this keep happening before the other side is like, all right, that's it, no more kind of thing. The issue that I'm concerned about right now for the left is extreme violence. And for the right, because the right is comprised of regular working people, it's no confidence. Yeah.

So what I imagine happening with the culture war right, as we call it, which is regular people. They're not political zealots. They don't like open borders. They're complaining in their cities. They just stopped believing the system exists. And what happens then? The country just stops functioning as a single entity. Right.

That's it. The left will go around smashing things. But the way I've described it is, imagine it's like Oklahoma. And after 2024 in november uh a bunch of stuff happens that results in widespread lawsuits like we saw in 2020 uh accusations of fraud whether it's true or not doesn't matter and then there's a handful of guys who just say there's no us anymore yeah and so they so they they basically say we don't pay taxes. We are our own city and we got to start securing ourselves.

And then what you end up seeing is people who have no confidence in the system start setting up their own forms of government. It starts with community watch. Eventually, you got two guys with long guns blocking an exit ramp off the highway. And they say, checkpoint, what are you coming to our town for? During COVID, several cities did this. They locked down and barred people from entering their cities. 100% they did, unless you were working for some reason, an essential personnel, absolutely.

I remember driving down a highway once and it said, there was a sign for a city exit and it said closed to non-resident traffic. And it was like like do not exit so what happens if you know joe biden if he makes it it's not gonna be biden i i agree but like let's say a democrat wins and then you just have people they say if the right truly says if trump comes out at that point and just says the system is rigged or whatever yeah then people just say then i don't i don't agree i i no contest like they're not going to listen to the irs they're not going to listen to federal police and the federal law enforcement well they can't arrest everybody i mean that's the thing they

can't federal law enforcement and the u.s military does not have the manpower to quell a no confidence act by the american people yeah if texas declares secession or something nonsensical like out of the question then the feds can send in troops and try and quell texas andlares secession or something nonsensical like out of the question then the feds can send in troops and try and quell texas and that could be conflict right but what if everyone just says after the election they don't pay tax anymore because they don't feel the government's legitimate and the government can't do anything anyway because they're not the feds have no recourse yeah they just simply cease to exist yeah overnight i think the biggest thing that the american people forget and we talk about this a lot on on our show as well is how much people uh how much power they actually have

especially in the realm of taxes and things like that people are like oh you know we can't are you crazy we can't stop paying why i mean absolutely you can that's one of your best recourses to get the government to actually pay attention and listen to you. We're going to go to Super Chats. Not Super Chats. We're going to go to the members-only show now. Tim loves Super Chats. We love the Super Chats. So smash that like button, subscribe to this channel,

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