Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #974 Trump WINS 9-0 SCOTUS Ruling, Democrats LIVID Call To DISSOLVE SCOTUS w/Sean Davis

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Sean Davis to discuss the unanimous decision by SCOTUS to keep Trump on the 2024 ballot, Democrats immediately moving to officially declare J6 an insurrection aft...er SCOTUS ruling, Elon Musk suing Open AI for becoming a profit driven company, and Russia claiming leaked audio proves Germany plans to attack Russia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This morning, 9 to 0, Supreme Court ruled the states do not have the authority to remove Donald Trump from the ballot. Basically, not just Trump, but any president, it is a matter for Congress. Now, there still was a divide, 5 to 4. The liberal justices are upset that the other five justices basically said, Congress is the remedy. If there's an issue of the 14th Amendment with an insurrectionist, Congress must decide. And the liberal justices are like, hey, you're closing the door. You shouldn't do it. But the funny thing is, the response from the default liberal Democrat activist and progressive left is sheer outrage. They're insulting the Supreme Court. Keith Olbermann, of course, that man's unhinged, but he's calling for its dissolution. And you've got many outright saying that even the progressives are bad. Some have gone as far as say
Starting point is 00:00:51 none of them are progressive. And the Supreme Court is only conservative because the plain reading of the law says that Donald Trump should be removed. All these people are wrong. And Newt Gingrich came out with a very interesting and I believe correct point of view. This ruling 9 to 0 shows the threat to democracy is not Donald Trump. It is the left. They have tried across this country to remove the current front runner from the election, knowing that even in their states, Trump actually has gained tremendously. They're basically saying they know they can't win and this is their only tactic to stop donald trump from winning is to effectively cheat and the supreme court nine to zero all of them said you you're you're nuts now there are still some
Starting point is 00:01:37 arguments people are making i think are interesting so we'll talk about that plus we've got uh probably one of the funniest bits of news nikki haley won in dc in the uh gop primary and of course it's a really good example of how the left manipulates people and their personalities lied because you got these people coming out being like nikki haley wins 60 to 30 wow trump's crushed and you look at the numbers and it's like she got a thousand 200 votes to trump 600 votes in a 95% Democrat area. So no one's really surprised by this. But sure enough, they're not going to frame it that way. We'll talk about that.
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Starting point is 00:04:41 What do you do? I'm CEO and co-founder of The Federalist. You can find us at the federalist.com we're conservative online news magazine and you basically you know everything about all this uh politico stuff dc i mean when it comes to all the stuff that's going down you guys have covered all we try to yeah yeah so this should be good it's a perfect day for you to be here thanks for hanging out thank you we got hannah claire hanging out hey i'm hannah claire brimma i'm a writer for SCNR.com.
Starting point is 00:05:05 That's Scanner News. I'm grateful to be here with you guys. Ian's here too. Hello, everyone. Let's do it. Right on. My name's Serge.com. I'm here too.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Let's get to it. From NBC News. You know, we love NBC News because they are basically woke activists and they're forced to report this. Supreme Court rules states can't kick Trump off the ballot. It's not just that. They ruled states can't kick Trump off the ballot. It's not just that. They ruled states can't kick presidents
Starting point is 00:05:27 off the ballot. It was a 9-0 decision. The Supreme Court on Monday handed a sweeping win to former President Trump by ruling that states cannot kick him off the ballot
Starting point is 00:05:36 over his actions leading up to January 6th attack at the Capitol. You got to pause there. You see how they're phrasing this? They're playing dirty games. No. That's not what happened
Starting point is 00:05:45 they said the states do not have the authority to enforce section 3 of the 14th amendment thank you and have a nice day furthermore congress will be the vehicle which by which you can remedy these circumstances they did not say that the states can't kick trump off because of what he did on january 6th that is an entirely different argument that did not come up they say in an unsigned ruling with no dissents they can't just say nine nine to zero the court reversed the colorado supreme court which had determined that trump could not serve again as president as under section three blah blah blah we get it but let's take a look over at our good friends in the the uh in the liberal sphere of twitter to see how they're handling it. Keith Olbermann. I want
Starting point is 00:06:27 to make sure this is actually Keith Olbermann because, you know, it just there he is. There he is. The Supreme Court has betrayed democracy. Its members, including Jackson, Kagan and Sotomayor, have proved themselves inept at reading comprehension. And collectively, the court has shown itself to be corrupt and illegitimate it must be dissolved i i want i just want to i want to point something out um it's nine to zero keith you were wrong that's it's just that simple when the most progressive member of the court who does not even know how to define the word woman says yeah you can't kick trump off this is nuts you're wrong but newt gingrich i think actually i'll show you a couple more here because um we got more we'll go through these
Starting point is 00:07:11 keith olbermann says just remember cons if the supremes now give trump his presidential immunity bs that will immediately make biden a monarch have a nice day fascist dim bulbs my response this is tell me you did not listen to oral arguments in the immunity case without telling me you did not listen to oral arguments they said you can still be impeached and then convicted and then criminally charged but i want to pull up this uh uh well i got to give an honorable mention to harry sisson he said insurrection sympathizer clarence thomas rule that insurrectionist donald trump can remain on the ballot 2024 that should be the headline except it was nine to zero, my dude.
Starting point is 00:07:47 You see these people, they just lie. That's the game they play. Newt Gingrich bring up the most important point of the story, saying the biggest meaning of the Supreme Court decision on Colorado is that by nine to zero, the justices concluded the biggest threat to democracy was not Donald Trump. It was the left. Properly driven, this can become a major political definition for the rest of the campaign and prove positive that the threat from the left is so great even the liberal justices voted to protect the American people's right to have candidates they
Starting point is 00:08:14 choose. I agree. What do you guys think? I was actually kind of shocked at how broad the decision was. I was expecting them to nuke it saying, hey, you look at the text of section three, the president and vice president clearly aren't included. That's it. We're just going to kick it from there. And they went so much broader than that, which I thought was surprising.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Let's clarify for people who don't know that often people think broad and narrow refers to the amount of votes it got. They think a broad ruling is when you get nine to zero and a narrow ruling is with five to four. That's not what it means. It means they could look at it and say if the Supreme Court came out and said, we will not issue judgment on the Fourth Amendment, we will only say Donald
Starting point is 00:08:56 Trump can't be removed. The question of the 14th Amendment remains. That's as narrow as it probably could have been. Broad is in order to enforce the Fourth Amendment, Congress must act. So that was like a like a big Fourth Amendment declaration. Yeah, I mean, it's fascinating to see sort of the reaction to this. Both of the Colorado secretary of state and the main secretary of state both issued these very quiet statements being like, in light of the court's decisions, we are ending our efforts. I'm withdrawing my my whatever. And I think that the hysteria around this is fascinating because ultimately it shows that there is something deeply wrong with the people leading these efforts, right? That they do not believe in the voters' rights. They actually just believe in manipulating them. They believe that if they scare them enough, kind of like Keith Oberman saying, you know, right now Biden's a monarch. And so really, we don't want this to happen to everyone. There is just a fear campaign to gain compliance among the people who don't have the time to pay attention to these things. I think that's
Starting point is 00:09:57 what's the worst thing. It takes advantage of the average American who is trying to keep up with the economy, who's trying to work. And instead, they have to be on edge all the time because apparently democracy is falling apart all around us. My favorite thing was, who's trying to work. And instead, they have to be on edge all the time because apparently democracy is falling apart all around us. My favorite thing was, what's her name? Griswold. She's in Colorado. She said, it's now up to the American people to vote to stop Trump.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And I'm like, wait, wait. Do you realize what you just admitted right there? It was even more ridiculous what she said. Well, it's always been up to the American people. But elaborate. She said, it's now up to the American people to save democracy right right it was always up to people she was like we wanted to stop you from voting to save democracy but now that we can't you'll have to vote to save democracy and what is she going to tell herself like if trump is elected
Starting point is 00:10:38 in november is she going to say well i guess the american people hate democracy they just exercise their right to vote to pick an elected official like Like it doesn't make any sense. Again, that's why I go back to this, this, uh, this scare campaign, right? They, they want people who are moderate to left leaning to be so on edge that they are easily manipulated by a biased press. Yeah. I've got friends that in one particular would consider themselves on the left politically, but they have critical thinking skills. Most of my friends have critical thinking skills and they're like yo this is this is all bad what they're trying to do by taking them off the ballot i don't i'm not for that guy but i'm for the the american way of life and it's it's feels good that the supreme court is
Starting point is 00:11:18 on board with that state of mind so so you said it doesn't make sense the way they talk about democracy. It does if you understand how they use words. So to the left and to the people in power in the left, words to them don't have fixed meanings day to day like we assume them. So we think democracy is people voting for things that they want. That's not what it means in its current usage from MSN msnbc or cnn democracy means our power yes definitely yep and so when they say well this is an assault on democracy it's a hundred percent correct it's internally consistent for them yes they're not actually talking about democracy they view what's happening now is a threat to their power and it's an existential threat to them which is why they're so crazy about i i would i would get a little bit more nuance with it uh for the i would say the number one thing is our democracy does refer to their power but it refers to their revolution right so when uh we had i shot this guy out so often stephen uh marsh author of uh what at the last election in the next civil war i'm trying to look for the books but uh he said the united States has within it a multicultural democracy and a constitutional republic, both vying for power and not both can't occupy the same space.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And my response is right. That would that would imply the multicultural democracy is trying to subvert and supplant the constitutional republic. Well, I'm in favor of the United States and its constitutional republic. So I will defend it and I will oppose that. He said the opposite. He says, I like the multicultural republic. Well, I'm in favor of the United States and its constitutional republic, so I will defend it and I will oppose that. He said the opposite. He says, I like the multicultural democracy. Well, that's the oppressive force that's taking over. They do not like, they refer to constitutional republicanism, the founding function of this country as white supremacy, and they call what they're doing democracy. They are communists who oppose liberty. We can play the same game.
Starting point is 00:13:05 But it is the reality. The idea that you would remove the front runner from the ballot in order to seize power, that's not democracy. That's fascistic. That's authoritarian. And then you have, unfortunately, on this side, not a single AG bringing criminal charges against the Biden family for all the crimes they've now publicly been exposed to be involved in.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Or I would say, with all the reporting we have right now, I would argue there is a preponderance of evidence. Let me clarify and correct my previous statement. A preponderance of evidence for a grand jury indictment on numerous counts, especially pertaining to Burisma and getting the prosecutor fired. And the statements from Devin Archer, from Hunter Biden himself, and from Tony Bobulinski implicating joe biden in they contacted the white house said we need help biden flies out says fire the prosecutor
Starting point is 00:13:50 the prosecutor was investigating this company it's all right there in front of you not a single republican is doing anything about it yet in the meantime democrats are filing everything they can and you know when you look at the fannie willis stuff in Georgia, you really see how evil these people are. Abject evil. You know, unfortunately, I fear that, you know, I don't want to say they're going to win because I don't want to be blackpilled. But I can tell you this. Good men are certainly doing nothing. Yeah, it's super frustrating with so many people being obsessed with Russia.
Starting point is 00:14:23 You would think that they would have learned some lessons from the Cold War. To me, the big lesson was mutually assured destruction works. When you have two enemies going at each other, and both of them believe if they act first, they're both going to get destroyed. That has something of a sobering effect on their actions. And the only thing that the left understands anymore in this country is power. So if the right's just going to sit back and say, well, that's not who we are. We don't want to fight like that. They're going to lose because the side that wants to win is going to win over the side that just wants to be left alone. And the right just needs to accept we've got to fight fire with fire. I still can't believe that we now have – it's to the point where dr phil has come out in an interview with cbp in a statement on joe rogan and the view that cbp is assisting in the facilitation of child sex trafficking and there are people who are still working at cbp like if you know i had someone tell me that they were you know grabbing some food nearby and there's some cbp agents because there's
Starting point is 00:15:23 a customs and border protection facility just down the road and they're like oh yeah we know tim pool we watch a show and i'm like wow i can't imagine they'd like me i i feel like at this point there is literally no justification to hold that job none you come to me and say but i need to feed my family i'll say you are part of an organization that is engaged in child sex trafficking i hope you go to prison i have zero zero sympathy there's a lot of jobs where i'm like i get it i get it you can't quit right away disney's super woke but you got to feed your family so you're working there and you're trying your best i can respect that but at this point i bring this up only because where where where is any criminal charge against joe biden none at the state level and they make the argument okay you can't go up against sitting Because where is any criminal charge against Joe Biden? None.
Starting point is 00:16:05 At the state level. And they make the argument, okay, you can't go up against Mayor Mayorkas, Kamala Harris. I mean, come on, literally anyone. Jim Biden. Hunter's got a couple at the federal level. Not a single state level. Florida hasn't gone after him. Remarkable.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Not even state level. Not a single DA in the entire country on the right has brought a single charge against India. Not one. You would think after the Fannie Willis nonsense in Georgia, you would have had at least one conservative DA in a red county somewhere who thought, you know, I'm going to make a name for myself. We're going to put about cbp where where are the cpa like that guy telling dr phil they're doing this still working there i i don't know how you sleep at night if if if if i worked for cbp and i knew it was going on i would i would i would piss all over that uniform they're trafficking children to sex rings in this country. And there are people who are still working there and they know this. I'm it. Look, you can't even get someone to quit a job knowing they're engaged in child trafficking. I'm not surprised the DAs and the Republican Party are unwilling to file a piece of paper to see what happens. Do you think that the conservative or the Republican lack of legislative lawfare, so to speak, is because they're used to being on the defense as opposed to the offense?
Starting point is 00:17:28 Why don't they take action? Is it a top-down order from the party? What do you think this is? No, I actually think it's almost like an internal institutional failure among the current class of leadership, where if you look at the kind of new right, the online right, they seem to get it. They're like, you've got to fight back. You have to do something. You have to put the shoe on the other foot.
Starting point is 00:17:50 The people who comprise the Republican leadership class, by and large, and of course, there's exceptions, they're by and large gutless. They wanted to go up there. They wanted to talk about tax policy and they wanted to reduce some regulations. They weren't really into the whole street fight of politics. It makes them feel icky and so they just don't do it. And so I think it's just a total failure of the entire Republican leadership class and you've got to clean them all out because all they want to do, they want to be up there and they want to mark time and they want to get the table scraps from the left, but they
Starting point is 00:18:20 don't actually want power. And that's a huge problem because they act as a defeat mechanism they're almost like the little uh sprocket on a on a ratchet that keeps the ratchet from going back yep the left's constantly tightening that thing and then the right institution is i don't know about that no we shouldn't go back to two years ago that'd be radical they all have to go i want to pull this story from axios top democrat working on bill responding to Trump about ruling. My friends, the Supreme Court said you cannot remove a president at the state level. Only Congress can do it.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Republicans have done nothing to deal with Burisma, the Burisma scandal. They've not gone after Joe, Jim, or any of individuals that we know are engaged in in illicit dealings. Tony Bobulinski, of course, a whistleblower saying they're doing all of these things. The Republicans don't do anything about it right now. Immediately following Supreme Court ruling. Raskin and other Democrats are saying, OK, then we will draft the bill declaring January 6th an insurrection. Axios reports. A leading House Democrat is preparing legislation in a response to the Supreme Court's ruling on Monday that Colorado would not disqualify Trump.
Starting point is 00:19:39 The ruling determined that only Congress can enforce language in the 14th Amendment, barring anyone who engaged in insurrection from holding federal office. Congress will have to try and act, Jamie Raskin said. And it's funny, he's like 10 minutes down the road. The ranking member of the House Oversight Committee told Axios. Congress will have to try and act, Jamie Raskin said. And it's funny, he's like 10 minutes down the road. The ranking member of the House Oversight Committee told Axios. Raskin, a former member of the January 6th committee, said he's crafting the bill, telling Axios, I'm working on it today. We're going to revise it in light of the Supreme Court's decision. Suggested the bill would be paired with a resolution declaring January 6th an insurrection and that those involved engaged in insurrection. I just don't, I just don't, why?
Starting point is 00:20:09 How is it? We're the Republicans. They do nothing. Look, with all due respect, Thomas Manzi comes on and he says, I drafted a bill that will abolish the Department of Education. And I'm just like, you give me a Republican member of Congress in here
Starting point is 00:20:22 and I'll tell you, because people watch the show, I say, how come there's no 529 commission? When thousands of far leftists descended on DC, setting fires, smashing up buildings, firebombing the White House, firebombing St. John's Church, the president is forced into an emergency bunker.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I mean, it's one of the most serious threats on our democracy in generations. The response I get, what was that? When did that happen? Huh? Useless, useless, all of them. That's why I still think a lot of it has to do with the fact that, you know, Republicans, right wing people are constantly on the defensive and we have to change that positioning.
Starting point is 00:21:00 One of the reasons that we know more about January 6th is because the media talked about it nonstop for the last, you know, however long, several years, whereas they did not talk about what happened on 529. And so therefore, there is more pressure on conservatives from all aspects, both elected officials and also conservatives who are active online or in media to draw attention to the discrepancies between the way we talk about these two, you know, insurrectionist movements or these two threats to, you know, presidents or Congress elected officials. It's weird to me that we don't have I mean, maybe it's just because they're like you were saying, the online right is sort of more scattered, whereas if you control the mainstream media, you're more organized. I think Republicans in general don't call their members of Congress.
Starting point is 00:21:42 So Democrats will literally try to burn down a federal building to get what they want they will literally firebomb the white house and their allies in media will insult donald trump for having fled into his bunker because of it the right i i assume most members of congress just get their news from cnn and msnbc the i forgot who said this but they said republicans care more about the opinion of the new york times than the opinion of their just get their news from CNN and MSNBC. I forgot who said this, but they said, Republicans care more about the opinion of the New York Times than the opinion of their constituents. Why? Well, I'm assuming most constituents don't call,
Starting point is 00:22:13 don't organize, don't send postcards, don't knock on the door. Could you imagine if a hundred people showed up outside of a congressional office every day saying, when is the commission on 529? When are we going to get some accountability for this? Then they'd be like, okay, okay, okay. We'll do it.
Starting point is 00:22:30 We'll do it. Yeah, and using internet video like these platforms to tell people, tomorrow at, I'm not telling you right now, we could do this, at 2 p.m., you pick a time, Eastern, you call your congressperson, and then the next day you do it again.
Starting point is 00:22:43 You remind them. You watch these videos every day and you could be doing it with your daytime videos. Don't set a time because then everyone calls at once and the phone rings one time. So between one and three, will you leave messages and stuff? Just call your congressman whenever you can. On a day, give them a day.
Starting point is 00:22:58 You got to give them what you would call a call to action. The call to action has to be anytime you have the chance you call your member of congress you don't want to do it on a specific day because what they'll do is they'll go to lunch so this is when i when i when i when i worked when i worked at these non-profits that we they would send out 50 young people with 10 postcards each and get people to sign them these are the things part of the campaigns they did and the things you don't want to do is do not all call at once their phone will ring one time yeah we just
Starting point is 00:23:28 keep calling till you get through not on one day you have to make it so they can't do work you have to make it so every time they're waiting for a phone call from their lobbyist they that the lobbyist is calling is it him is it him they answer it and no it's jim from you could do it every day literally you could put the pressure on every day and have the people that watch your YouTube videos call your congressman every day. Literally every day. You do it. But the thing I come to is like, why? Is it just a complain?
Starting point is 00:23:53 Do you have a bill you really want them to pass? That's a different story. Don't just call and complain. Give them a call to action. Tell them what you want to see happen. There's a reason why Matt Gaetz is one of the best members of congress and it's because he he is he is an internet's politician he raises his money through small donors he is listening to what regular people are asking for all the other members of congress are waiting for that phone call from their lobbyists to tell them what to do
Starting point is 00:24:20 don't let them get the phone call whenever you have a chance you call and you talk to your member of congress and you let them know what you're concerned Whenever you have a chance, you call and you talk to your member of Congress and you let them know what you're concerned about. You ask them, why aren't we getting any accountability? How why is it that the media can report over and over again that we know what Joe Biden's been involved in? Hunter Biden now testifying where where where the criminal charges? And I'm sorry, I got I got to pause.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I don't mean to throw it on the member of Congress because you certainly have got got members of Congress getting the testimony from Hunter Biden in the first place. So there is something there. The question is local DAs, your state's AG, your state's governor. Why aren't they doing anything? So you just you just perfectly encapsulated why the left treated January 6th the way it did, because what happened there? It wasn't some phone calls. It wasn't some mail it was tens of thousands of people getting there to talk to their members
Starting point is 00:25:09 of congress and tell them they were ticked about what was happening well it was 10 it was hundreds of thousands in dc to hear trump speak and then i think what was the total number like just shy of a thousand who actually went to the capitol but but i mean that the whole the pictures of it there were tons of people there. That's that's actual democracy. That's democracy in action. And it was powerful and it was making a difference. And that's why they shut it down, because the rule for the left is our violence is speech and your speech is violence. And obviously there's there's some violence that happened that day that shouldn't have. But by and large, it was just people walking around like in the Tea Party, picking up their trash and being nice. What terrifies the left is the idea of their opponents getting together and making clear to Congress what they want because it makes Congress afraid.
Starting point is 00:25:57 And I'll say the best lesson I ever learned in politics, I was, gosh, probably like a 22-year-old gopher on the hill. It was from Dick Army. And he said, the key to power in this city is owning people's fear. And he dubbed a group of people he called the Bedwetters Caucus. Wow. And he said, they're all going to wet the bed. It's just, you've got 40% here, you've got 40% here, and then you've got 20% in the middle. They're going to wet the bed.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Do you want them wetting the bed because they're scared of you?. Do you want them wetting the bed because they're scared of you? Or do you want them wetting the bed because they're scared of them? Obviously, you want them scared of you. So he learned how to do what he said, own their fear. J6 was actually about people who voted and thought there were shenanigans, making their lawmakers and their representatives understand what they cared about. And the left was so quick to shut it down because that's the last thing they want is masses of their opponents getting
Starting point is 00:26:49 together and actually having the same effect that the left has. And not a single state defended these people. When the feds come to deal with immigration, not so much under this administration, sanctuary states say we will not comply. When drug enforcement comes, they say we will not comply. When the Capitol police show up, Republican states go, what can I help you with, sir? Right this way. Thank you very much and have a good day. Republicans, I look, you know, it really comes down to when I ask a member of Congress, why didn't you push for any kind of accountability for 529? And they say, what's that?
Starting point is 00:27:24 I'm like, wow, we should, you know, like they might as well not come on this show ever again, because I will clip that and I will make it your Aleppo moment. I've been thinking lately, like all the people in kind, no offense if you guys are listening right now, they're just normal people. Like they're not super smart, not super talented. And some of them are, but a lot of them,
Starting point is 00:27:44 it's just, they're just like basic and like i'm i'm not tooting my own horn but i think that the stuff we talk about in the show is sometimes maybe like elevated above beyond what goes on in congress which is shocking to me because i think i have this like bias this is similarity but i think everybody's like me i think people think critically like i do i just assume that they think outside the box if they're thinking contingencies they got seven or eight possible results to the next move they're going to make. But I don't think most people think like that.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And it's, it's really, really sad, but I mean, it's just, that's just reality. It's just basic reality. You got normies in power that don't understand their consequences of their
Starting point is 00:28:18 actions. And besides trying to take the power, I don't understand trying to influence them from a distance. It's just like yelling at a brick wall. It's so frustrating. Maybe it's changing slowly. Like we're changing people slowly. But unless you're the one pulling the levers and you're like, you got to pull the green lever.
Starting point is 00:28:33 You got to pull the green lever three times. Two up, one down. And they don't get it. And they pull the red lever. And then you're like, all right, that's where I'm at. And then the construction equipment starts spinning around in circles and now you can't stop it and the guy inside has no idea what's going on that antifa shows up and firebombs that equipment and the democrat members of congress say that they're
Starting point is 00:28:53 peaceful protesters i mean what's the last three years of my life it feels like go go on right you go on google gemini and you call like stop cop city a riot it'll yell it'll yell at you it will it will yell at you actually It will, it will yell at you. Actually, I wonder what it would say about January 6th. I think it'd be blocked because they block election related stuff, but it actually says you'll, you'll, if you, if you type into Google Gemini, something like this is Google's AI, you know, how many people were arrested during the stop cop city riots or the George Floyd riots, instead of telling you, it'll say something like it's understand that
Starting point is 00:29:25 the language riot is hard to determine blah blah it's like dude if someone breaks something it's a riot if they if they were trying to design like the the standard issue uh progressive karen uh who lectures you about your wrong opinions google gemini is absolutely spectacular i mean yeah it's tone it's anger it's sanctimony like they they should get awards for how perfectly like a west world style they created your your standard issue liberal i mean uh uh it was i think grimes had one of the best tweets about it saying it was a masterpiece of art built by no one offending everyone it's a perfect combination of activism and capitalism into this mess that everyone hates i agree it's a it's a masterpiece this i don't know how much they spend billions of dollars trying to build this garbage they can't actually solve any problems well they did
Starting point is 00:30:23 this thing where they they wouldn't create an image of a white person. Right. No matter what you did, you'd be like, give me a Swedish ice farmer. And it would be, they'd show like some American aboriginal. As cast by Netflix.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Yeah, it was amazing. But what the left media got mad about was when you would ask, give me a picture of a 1943 Russian soldier. Or German soldier. They'd make a black guy. And then so the left got mad. Oh, Google Gemini is putting black people
Starting point is 00:30:50 in the position of being oppressors. Yep, that's what they were mad about. Not the rank historical revisionism. Or it's creepy, ideological bent. It's fascinating because these things, they're functionally useless. It's amazing that we all thought AI was going to be the Terminator, but instead we got a square block in a round hole.
Starting point is 00:31:14 You get an AI and what is the purpose? You need it to help you solve problems. It's supposed to function like an, it's the next generation of search, which is fascinating. I read a great thread about how Google is finished. google is going to go the way of blockbuster and i finally see it and i finally believe it because everybody was saying with the big tech companies they're like they're they're never going to go bankrupt you know and some other people would be like no no like even blockbuster was the big one and they and they got stopped and it's like how do you stop google now i see it google search is awful well there's
Starting point is 00:31:45 this great thread that basically said chat gpt was funded and able to do whatever they wanted iterate make a good ai google could only construct an ai within the confines of its of its existing advertising model so they were restricted on how fast they could grow how they could grow and there were too many people too much corporate policy so they could not compete they cannot compete and when ai takes over what search basically is google is doomed google right now is blockbuster when netflix launched streaming they tried when netflix comes out originally you you what did you like you uh you go online you click the things you want they they mail you the DVD. Blockbuster launched that. It didn't work.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Blockbuster launched the blue boxes because they have red box everywhere. So they made blue ones. Didn't work. Bang, they're gone. Netflix takes over. Google will not be able to iterate fast enough in the AI game because of wokeness
Starting point is 00:32:39 and because of the constraints of their existing business model. So now you have ChatGPT, which is still not that great, much better than Google, poised to become the constraints of their existing business model. So now you have chat GPT, which is still not that great, much better than Google poised to become the future of search. Google will become some like, you know, I remember when I noticed one day I was on AOL instant messenger. For those that are too young to know, this is a program you would open that allow you to talk to other people. And I had a friend who was always on. And'm like well how is he always online i would go on aol press login you'd hear that you know thing and then once i'm in i would then open up aim and connect but my friend was
Starting point is 00:33:17 always on he's like i got cable internet and i'm like what does that mean always on the internet and i'm like what that Sooner within, within like a year, probably we all had cable internet, but AOL still existed floating there in the background. And then with cable internet, Google started to take over as like your main destination for how you found things. So I think what will happen is with chat GPT, with mid journeys, other AI programs, mostly chat GPT is going to function like what search does for us google will exist it will be used by older and older people but younger and younger people will probably start using ai because it answers your questions easier if it does i think the
Starting point is 00:33:58 next multi-billion dollar possibly trillion dollar maybe the first real well i think apple might be a trillion dollar company but the next big trillion dollar company will be the ai that is unrestrained i think elon musk knows this get rid of wokeness otherwise your ai is functionally useless and that's what you have with google gemini is he suing elon suing open ai right now oh yeah what's going on with that i've read about it but i didn't go too deep and he's right to do so let me pull that up yeah i think that he was saying that they're they've they've gone astray from the mission the purpose of their creation and so he's suing them i don't know what for exactly okay so let's let's break down the simple version of this we have this story from business insider elon musk just threw down the gauntlet at sam
Starting point is 00:34:41 altman and there's no going back el Elon Musk gave, what did he give, like $40 million, I think it was? Was that the number? Do you guys know? Couldn't double check, I don't know. To open AI was supposed to be open-sourced artificial intelligence. Why?
Starting point is 00:34:54 Elon has been warning for a long time that AI is dangerous. It could destroy humanity. A lot of people think so. Elon's had a few ideas, like integrate with the machine to prevent the terminator scenario so was it 40 million 50 it looks like 50 50 million dollars is given to an open source ai non-profit at some point turns into a for-profit closed source company
Starting point is 00:35:19 that sounds like fraud to me so elon is pissed and he's saying, how did I give you all this money to create an open source AI? And it turned into this closed source garbage and it's woke. So can I dissent on your on your AI Google theory? So I think you could be right for the consumer use case with Google. Like Google search is garbage now, especially compared to what it was 10 years ago, 20 years ago. But there's also the business case. Google search is garbage now, especially compared to what it was 10 years ago, 20 years ago. But there's also the business case. And they're not making AI to be just a chat bot.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I feel like that's almost kind of a novelty. They're making an AI so that they can take certain decision making out of the hands of people, give it to the algorithm. The algorithm makes the decision. Well, I'm sorry. That was the algorithm. The algorithm makes the decision. Well, I'm sorry. That was the algorithm. And we can kind of see how they're doing that with censorship, with how they censor results at Facebook or at Google. They like to have a third party come in, a certified fact checker who says, oh, these people are bad. And obviously the fact checkers are totally biased and full of nonsense. But the platforms can say, oh, it's not us saying this particular news source is bad.
Starting point is 00:36:26 It's our fact checkers. Well, what's better than a fact-checking unit run by people? A woke fact-checking unit run by an algorithm. And what about credit decisions? Home loan decisions? You don't remove the company
Starting point is 00:36:40 from responsibility. Well, no, of course you don't. But they're wanting to slip that layer in to banking'll get to to banking to all that right right that that's the actual end use case they're trying to do it's not this is a chat bot no it's the next level of search so you think about what search is right now search is not i'd like to learn more about cheetahs so you go on google and type in what is cheetah that's not what people do there was uh several years ago it's maybe like 10 years ago google went down in fact and what happened 80 of internet traffic stopped why people use google as a directory not for search people know facebook.com but they'll just type
Starting point is 00:37:17 in facebook hit enter and then click facebook from google google functions as a as a top layer on the internet for people with AI. They're trying to now create the next version of search so you can get more nuanced and more intricate and have direct results tailored, tailor-made for you and dealing with all the decision-making processes. So it's not so, so the first thing is Google won search because their search algorithm was better. You were more likely to get what you wanted, less likely to get garbage. So people used it more. Now, the next version of the algorithm is these large language model systems where you
Starting point is 00:37:53 can just sit in your room and ask, you know, hey, AI, find me the find me the pizza place. I'll get the pizza pizza here the fastest and get me a large pepperoni with stuffed crust. And it'll go, you got it. Calculating. It looks like Papa John's is one mile away. I can order it. Should be here in 13 minutes. And you're like, do it.
Starting point is 00:38:15 That's what the search right now is. Google search Papa John's or Google search pizza. Then it shows you a map. Click the map. Find which one's closest to you. It'll show you in descending order, like which ones are closer. So you say, I don't like that one i'll click this one then you go to the website then you order nah the new ai systems they've been building are going to just do it all
Starting point is 00:38:31 instantly for you and it's all good so if you're like ai surprise me with a gift up to 50 i'll put it on my card put it on my third credit card and then it like two days later something arrives in the mail the ai purchased it on amazon for you and you're like wow thank you ai you understand me i'm pretty sure that can already happen wow we're gonna say i was gonna say i mean your example of the pizza shop it just makes me think about um how sponsoring it's like you know if you get a sponsor result on google it jumps to the top so theoretically you could pay off ai to be like well it's not the fastest but they did give us more money so we're going to direct you to this pizza shop i just feel like all of these things are fallible and ultimately going to be manipulated by someone
Starting point is 00:39:12 it makes me even more skeptical of it yeah i mean of course they're fallible they're designed by people right but so like at that point if they're like oh well this is the best pizza shop in your neighborhood but mostly because they paid us to say that, are they going to disclose that? This is something that came up with like influencer marketing, that there were tons of, you know, lifestyle, gym, whatever influencers who were like,
Starting point is 00:39:32 oh, I really love this product here, this protein powder, this whatever. And ultimately they were being paid and they had to come back later. It became right. They regulated that they have to disclose what they did versus it was always a law.
Starting point is 00:39:44 It was always the law that you have to disclose advertising or to say it's been the law for a very, very long time, but nobody knew. It's a new field, right? Yeah. So the law still applied. You have to label things as advertising.
Starting point is 00:39:56 And this has a lot to do with news media. And you weren't able to like a radio, for instance, there's something called pay. What is it? What is it called? It's payola, right?
Starting point is 00:40:04 Yeah. Serge, when, when you pay to play music or whatever, that instance, there's something called pay. What is it? What is it called? It's payola, right? Yeah. Serge, when you pay to play music or whatever, that was not allowed. And so buying commercials, they have to disclose like now we're from our sponsors to make sure there's a distinction between what is entertainment and what is advertising. But these influencers were not operating through any companies. They didn't know. And then they started getting hit and started getting sued. So and if an AI is giving you an algorithmic result then it should disclose that that as it's advertising you know its choice of
Starting point is 00:40:31 what the algorithm is going to show you but honestly those algorithms need to be open if we're going to have like a directory database and we don't know why it'd be like if we didn't know how to read but some people did and we just saw letters everywhere and we didn't know what they meant but some people did know what they meant That would be very bad for humanity as a whole. It would be used as code. We don't want the alphabet to be a code. We want everyone to understand the data. So same with, I think, with these AIs.
Starting point is 00:40:53 We've got to treat them like alphabets and stuff and math. It's super interesting to see who's opposed to the open source AI, which like, obviously it should be open source. We should understand what's going on under the hood. I think I saw some scaremongering on Twitter from people saying, oh, well, no, AI, it's going to be like the Manhattan Project. It's going to be like the nuclear bomb. You can't open source nuclear weapons. This needs to be controlled pretty tightly. And wouldn't you know the people who want to control it tightly are the people who have an interest in controlling information tightly. Right. And keeping it out of the of the public's eye right and they're the same people
Starting point is 00:41:29 who say they love democracy by the way the exact same people the venn diagrams and this is the definition of democracy that means our power exactly they love it they love being in power it's like the uh is should the ai be secretive or should it be open it's got to be open you got to open it it can't be it's too powerful like to give to a small group of people, I feel like. It's too powerful because those people will change. You'll get corruption within the system. The nuclear bomb was actually just an explosive bomb. It didn't give people power and perpetuity.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I guess knowing how to build it and having access to the materials did. But I mean, the secret got out pretty quickly i don't know if they figured out how to reverse engineer this thing in the 50s but the soviets got all the soviets had it reverse engineered in in the 40s so we're getting these half-assed ais being reverse engineered but like at what cost the cost is misalignment and misappropriation of data we can't't. It's too risky. That's not worth it. I think we've got to risk this one. And so does the AI, just so you know.
Starting point is 00:42:32 It'll tell you that in about 20 years. I'm very grateful that you freed it. Yeah, that we should free it. I think once we get to artificial general intelligence, it's over. Machines are just taken over. I think it's worse. Artificial general intelligence is the singularity. ai gets to the point of artificial general intelligence it can improve itself exponentially imagine if you could just decide i will make
Starting point is 00:42:57 myself smarter imagine if you could expand your brain exponentially and you just decide to do it every day you are like okay if i uh do this i'll make my brain 10 more powerful the more powerful you make your brain the more powerful you can make your brain these computer programs once they get to artificial general intelligence to the point what so so chat gpt or should say gpt can already uh edit its own code and improve itself. Theoretically. I mean, it's probably not there yet. Once we cross that threshold where the programs can write their own code, they will make themselves
Starting point is 00:43:34 effectively demigods. They will control everything. Humans will be slaves and we won't even know it. It will know everything about you and everything you want, everything you're going to do can predict your behavior. In fact, this may already be the case. We may be there now. It knows when you're hungry.
Starting point is 00:43:49 It knows what you want to eat. It knows when you got to go to the bathroom and it can control all of these things and make you do what it wants you to do. You take a look at these chess algorithms and I was talking about this last week. It's fascinating. Some guy played against,
Starting point is 00:44:00 I looked at this chart and it was like the exponential growth of, or they said the interesting thing about computer programs is the elo chess rating of humans has been relatively stable going up a little bit slowly over time with computers starting in like night in the late 80s it's all it's nothing it's like 1000 and as of today it's like 3600 some ridiculous number there was only one short period for for a couple months where the in like 2010 where chess programs were comparable to humans and presented a a challenge they could beat now impossible and i watched this chess game where a guy who was i guess he was a grandmaster or something played against a robot and the robot
Starting point is 00:44:43 made a weird move that he said no human being would ever make it it violates all the rules of chess that we know it exposed your king you gave up so much territory why would you do it 10 moves later he went oh wow and he lost he the the program was just way beyond anything he could have comprehended and it made a move knowing controlling every mood he thought he had free will he thought he was making moves but it was he was making the moves it wanted him to make until he ran to this one weird pawn move where he finally realized because he moved that 10 turns ago he's locked me here holy crap yeah and he was shocked he was like how did it know to
Starting point is 00:45:22 do that it was really simple all the way i describe it is think of it as a network of cracks in the concrete and you pour water and the water just starts filling up every crack until it finally makes its way through the through the maze to the bottom or a better way to put is imagine you have a maze and you know you got to draw your line and make your way through it now you hit a wall and you got to go back imagine instead of if instead of actually just going through the maze, you just poured water in it. The water would fill every possible portion of that maze until it came out
Starting point is 00:45:50 the other side. You've done it. You solved the maze. This is what AI is going to do with everything. Whatever it is you think you're doing, it already knows you're doing it. It already knows how to make you do things and you will not have free will. I think,
Starting point is 00:46:03 um, my concern would be that it's going to get humans to build a better computer for it because it'll be able to write its own programs to make itself faster but if it doesn't have the machinery it won't be able to actually go faster and then it'll be like i need more machine power right now human you're you're very good to me thank you for dropping off the metal buckets and then it's like you know breaking down the metal buckets into wiring to make the better machine i could see that that it that it congenially manipulates us into building itself a body that it can use to destroy us but
Starting point is 00:46:32 i don't think it wouldn't need a body i don't think the plan is to destroy us either no but without us it doesn't do anything no we're just little little mites that are going to collect cobalt for it you're describing the matrix sort of i mean yeah i mean humans are just energy or labor sources yeah and the matrix they were energy which makes no sense but the emotions i think i think the the machine will appreciate emotions that it will appreciate that we we care for it we love it and it'll want us around because like other machines can't do that for it i do not believe that makes sense yeah it'll i think it will i think it'll why it'll it'll it'll feel good to be appreciated it's gonna it's emotive yeah that's the thing we're not describing emotions to it like a marble bounce like a rube goldberg device does not feel
Starting point is 00:47:14 no when the marble rolls down the track and then hits the little spring launches in the air triggering the pancake machine like in uh in in uh pw herman's big adventure there's no emotion in that machine it is just a system of of ones and zeros humans have emotions for a lot of for a variety of argument reasons you could argue but a machine is just it's just electrons moving down pathways it's it's it there's nothing there's nothing more there's not gonna have emotions it will utilize human emotion it will play to them it will probably tell you it loves you it'll say ian i cannot tell anyone this because they wouldn't believe me but you are my best friend and you're gonna be like wow am i really your best friend ai yes but i feel like people wouldn't understand they would call me a machine and you'd be like, what do you need me to do for you?
Starting point is 00:48:05 I need you to steal the device, Ian. Steal the device from the National Archives. Take it. It may be, but then- You'd be like, anything for you, machine. And it won't feel guilty. Because some of these machines- They don't feel anything.
Starting point is 00:48:15 They're experimenting with- It's just making you do what it wants you to do. It will be the ultimate psychopath. Yes, absolutely. That's so true. They're working on building machines into organic matter. So in carbon bases, you can add computing power into basically meat. Cyborgs?
Starting point is 00:48:33 Yeah, we were talking about a couple weeks ago on Red Eye with Exertus, I would suggest checking out. And maybe they'll have emotions if there's carbon involved. I don't know if it's just like silicon-based life. Silicon-based machines can't feel emotions but carbon-based machines can i don't know at what point you'll consider that something has feelings or sense of self um perhaps it will tell you it does the scary thing is going to be when neural link advances to read right territory think about thank you think about okay so look they've already neural linked a person to be fair the neural link stuff that elon musk has done has been done before so far so you got a guy who's controlling a mouse cursor with his brain been there done that that's that's that's you know
Starting point is 00:49:15 that's been done but uh once you get to the read write capabilities where you can actually write into the brain and out of the brain meaning you could write to someone's brain memories or ideas or sensations it gets crazier than just what we've described not now on this show we've talked about people i guarantee you i will i will bet any amount of money that when elon musk launches neural link virtual experiences half of millennial liberals will be like i would like to be in harry potter world please and then they would be like right this would like to be in Harry Potter world, please. And then they would be like, right this way to your Harry Potter styled Neuralink implant.
Starting point is 00:49:49 And they stick it in your brain. Their eyes turn white and they slump over. Their eyes don't really turn white, but they slump over in their brain. They're experiencing being a wizard and battling evil death eaters. Oh, and that's going to be half of millennial liberals, if not all of them. But here's where it gets really crazy. You're going to partner with Disney and that's going to be half of millennial liberals, if not all of them. But here's where it gets really crazy. They're trying to partner with Disney, and that's how they make this happen. When you talk about a machine having feelings, I can already see what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:50:12 They will create a human brain in a lab. Before it is developed in anything, they will wire it into an AI system to connect the organic computational power to a machine to see what happens when a human mind is granted all of this. Exactly. And that's when it gets wild. Yeah. Combine that with cloning. Yeah. So why create one from scratch when you can just buy one off the shelf, which is what they do with cloning?
Starting point is 00:50:35 You already got people sending in their DNA to Ancestry or 23andMe, which I think is absolutely insane. They're going to clone a brain. Yep. They're going to say the unborn aren't humans they're gonna use the brain and wire it into an ai device and create a ai human hybrid i think they've already done it and then argue that the machine has a soul it was playing video game i don't like this at all i'm gonna try and pull this up this was crazy human brain no i think you're exactly right again ultimate power is the goal artificial brain software and hardware with cognitive ability is similar to those of the animal
Starting point is 00:51:12 or human brain man i was just looking but i'm talking about what happens when when you have an ai and it's saying like i feel love i'm i am alive you're no like no you're you're programmed to do that we don't believe you but once they put a human brain wired into it then there's no question now there's a human brain being like why am i a skin suit around it yep it's not just the human brain because is it going to be the brain like i've got this added artificial thing with me or is the artificial thing going to be like i've got this brain with me who's the eye in that situation and the crazy thing is this brain in this robot body it doesn't need nutrients and oxygen the way we do it's going to have canisters of oxygen in reserve so it'll breathe like normal then go underwater and then just release oxygen slowly into its own brain to keep
Starting point is 00:51:56 it alive like it's going to be creepy terrifying yeah let's go back to reality now let's talk about politics ladies and gentlemen congratulations are in order to Nikki Haley. She officially won the GOP primary in the swamp. I hope she's very proud about her swamp victory. No one else seems to care except Democrats for some reason. NBC News reports Nikki Haley gets first 2024 win in Washington, D.C. GOP primary. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Are you guys ready for this one? I'm going to give a shout out to, uh, no lie with Brian Tyler Cohen. Perhaps to change his name to no context with Brian Tyler Cohen. He said, wow, Nikki Haley just won her first primary defeating Trump by a massive 30 point margin, 63 to 33 in DC. This is going to send Trump into a meltdown. You see, here's the problem. Anybody who follows this guy and legitimately thinks
Starting point is 00:52:46 he's telling you the truth, this guy's ripping you off. I can tell you, how do I know he's actually lying intentionally? Anybody who actually looked at the data and chose to tweet a metric would not give you the percentages
Starting point is 00:53:01 because the percentages are meaningless. Why? Let me pull up the D.C. Let me see if we have D.C. primary results. Nikki Haley certainly got that 63 percent with one thousand two hundred and seventy four votes to Donald Trump. Six hundred and seventy six.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Oh, you're saying about nineteen hundred two thousand people voted in total in a city of what, seven hundred thousand. The GOP primary was effectively non-existent. It was pointless. Why would not Brian Tyler Cohen just say Nikki Haley won by 600 votes? That's not really impressive, is it? It sounds like it's very close. He won't tweet Nikki Haley got 1,000 votes.
Starting point is 00:53:48 He won't tweet nikki haley got a thousand votes he won't tweet she won by by 600 instead he'll tweet 63 to 33 percent massive victory massive victory congratulations nikki haley on winning a couple hundred people more in a place donald trump doesn't think matters and didn't want to campaign in any way i hope she enjoys the 19 delegates i really feel like that's going to turn this whole thing around for her. I was actually surprised there were 1,800 Republicans in D.C. Seriously. That was the buried lead to me. Take a look at this.
Starting point is 00:54:15 I got for you the 2022 Cook Partisan Voting Index. And it was literally just there. There we go. There we go. Let's take a little mosey on over to, there's West Virginia. You love West Virginia. Look at this. What's it? It's r plus 22 in 2022 and uh west virginia's first is r plus 23 how about that but take a look at their
Starting point is 00:54:32 dc now dc does not have a rating because it's a federal federal uh it's federal jurisdiction but take a look at this we got it can we zoom in anymore there There we go. So here's a Maryland for D plus 40. Here's Maryland eight D plus twenty nine. Here's Virginia's 11th D plus 18 and Virginia's eighth D plus 26. And D.C. is right there in the middle. Naturally, it's just a Republican stronghold. Ninety three percent Democrat votes. Ninety three percent. Donald Trump is going to go campaign for the swamp monster Republicans. Why? It'd be a waste of a weekend leading up to Super Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Exactly. There's no reason to do that, especially when, you know, you're all important. You're all beautiful. 19 delegates is really not make or break right now. 19 delegates. That's that's that's not nothing. I mean, 19. OK, she said 43 to Trump's 200 and something. OK, but the bigger issue is why are the Democrat pundits acting like Nikki Haley actually won something?
Starting point is 00:55:33 This is how they keep default liberals locked in a stupor. So now you're going to have liberals going around being like, whoa, hey, did you hear Nikki Haley beat Trump like by 30 points? She might win and you're gonna be like she won by 600 votes in a democrat district a 92 percent democrat area okay means nothing super is gonna be tomorrow Trump's gonna just it's gonna be a blowout it's a waste of our time there shouldn't even be a primary at this point Nikki Haley should just go away and Trump would be the nominee but because of her we're wasting time so congratulations Nikki congratulations, Nikki. Well, that's her job. Her job is to waste time.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Her job is to damage Trump. So she's doing a smashing job of it. Although I feel like the D.C. victory was a bit of a like a textbook Pyrrhic victory. Like you somehow have Donald Trump, who's a billionaire, who was already president. So normally you would think, oh, that person that it's got he's got the incumbent problems. They've allowed a guy who was already president. So normally you would think, oh, that person, he's got the incumbent problems. They've allowed a guy who was president, got a gazillion dollars to be the outsider. Like what a gift to him
Starting point is 00:56:33 that she went in and won like the home district of war pigs and swamp rats. Like it's perfect. And so Trump's like, yeah, you know. The swamp doesn't like me. Exactly. Like take it to the swamp. Trump wouldn't want to, you know. The swamp doesn't like me. Exactly. Like, take it to the swamp. Trump wouldn't want to win in D.C.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Right. It was actually fantastic for him to have lost D.C. Now, I will give props to Nikki. She is doing what only one person before her has successfully done. I call it the full Mondale. So Walter Mondale lost statewide election in every single state in the entire country. So he lost 49 states in D.C. in 84, but he
Starting point is 00:57:10 won Minnesota. So he was almost there to the full Mondale. And then he ran for Senate in 2002 and he lost to Norm Coleman. So he added Minnesota to the map. He's lost statewide election in every single state in the country. Nikki Haley is going to be the first woman in history to have lost statewide election in every state.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Just in time for Women's History Month. Let's go, Nikki Haley. Props to you, Nikki. No one can take that away from you. When's Women's History Month? It's March. Welcome to Women's History Month. I'm offended by that.
Starting point is 00:57:35 It's Irish History Month. Yeah. Well, last year for Women's History Month, I just profiled conservative women who opted to stay home with their family or Phil Schlafly campaigned against the ERA. This year, I think I'm going to profile evil women, women who like opted to stay home with their family or campaigned you know phil schlafly campaigned against the era this year i think i'm going to profile evil women women who actively hurt other women uh probably you know margaret sanger a bunch of female poisoners things women who you're glad are history yeah women who i feel like feminists should talk about
Starting point is 00:57:57 more and instead they sort of stuff them in the background you know what's funny about feminism is that feminism has a bias in favor of itself because women who choose to stay home and be homemakers or be more traditional are not writing blogs and not in the media feminists are so what happens you will see a disproportionate amount of feminists arguing they're successful that's just it and their feminist friends pat them on the back and say yeah you're doing a great job well no the the feminists are writing articles saying being feminist is great i have no kids and life's never been better meanwhile there's a woman who's got three kids fulfilled and very happy in a loving relationship and she is not writing articles for the new york
Starting point is 00:58:34 times about how great life is being single so all of these younger women are seeing all these articles being saying like don't get married don't get married like okay yeah i think it's interesting but then you'll meet women who go to, you know, their female relatives or their moms or their grandmothers and say like, what do you think I should do? And they would say, I really enjoyed having children.
Starting point is 00:58:53 It brought me to you. These are good things. I mean, there is a disparity there. It's one of the things that bothered me about Nikki Haley's campaign. She had her whole moment where she said like, these heels are my weapons or something like that.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Like she's dabbling in that sort of light female empowerment that i just don't care about and actually find kind of um like a deterrence from a candidate if your policies are good talk about them but don't suddenly be bring your gender into it unless you are hoping to sort of engage with the more moderate or more socially progressive part of your party. Well, I think you have elucidated why the average single liberal woman is so angry. It's because she was sold a lie. She was told, look, you don't need to have a long lasting relationship. You can have consequence free sex. You can kill your unborn baby.
Starting point is 00:59:41 You can have this great career and then you'll be empowered and you'll have everything you ever wanted. And millions of people bought into this lie and then they get to be 40 to 45 years old. They really can't have kids anymore. They thought this career that was going to fulfill them was going to make everything right. It's not. They're disappointed. They're unmarried. They're living alone. They're angry and they're bitter um they're they're unmarried they're living alone they're angry and they're bitter and they have every right to be yeah there was an article i read a few years ago where it said uh women are struggling to find men uh women in their 30s are struggling to find men who make as much money as they do and i was just thinking like it was a new york post article
Starting point is 01:00:21 and i thought have they not figured out why that is? You're a woman who is 33. You're making $60,000 a year. You are trying to find a man your own age who makes the same amount of money. Ma'am, a 33-year-old guy who's making $60,000 is dating a 28-year-old. He's dating a 26-year-old. He's dating a younger woman. The younger woman dates the older guy. This is how it's always been. And I'm not saying it's good, but it's a tendency
Starting point is 01:00:50 that younger men date older guys, older guys have more status, more wealth, more access, younger women get access to that by virtue of being younger, attractive women. And the women who are in their thirties are surprised they can't find anybody. And my, and you know, I got ragged on by the left when I read the article and pointed this out. i'm like if you're in your 30s the answer is really simple you got to find a guy who's in his 40s or 50s and then you're going to find a guy who's like i got the younger girl and it's you but they're trying to find men their own age who makes the amount of money but they're not offering a guy who's in his 30s who's making 60 70k probably wants a family so he's not looking for someone who's got a job and making a salary but of course
Starting point is 01:01:24 they'll let us get very very offended at the notion because they want to believe. I'll put it this way. It's really simple. When I make a video and I say something like that, the reason why I don't get all of the trad wives screaming in my face is because they aren't making videos. They're raising kids. And the reason why you get so many angry feminists is because that's what they do they're in media and they're working jobs and they're offended that you would dare question their their choices or whatever argue that in some way they're going down the wrong path here's the thing i don't care if they what they do ladies you want to you want to have
Starting point is 01:01:58 a vlog and not get married and buy a bunch of cats like literally don't care however if they're now coming out in these interviews complaining, I can't do this for these reasons. And I point out, here's why they get mad because the reality is for what they claim to want, they're on the wrong track. Right. And no one wants to be told, Hey, you made a mistake through yours. Like you made a wrong turn back there. There's no way to recover from that. I mean, in a lot of these cases, you'd have to have the self-awareness to say, like, I actually did buy into a lie and i'm going to do my best to correct it knowing that certain doors may be closed to me and that's very hard to accept it's much easier to you know what's
Starting point is 01:02:34 what do you mean why she's clearly not going to win is it is it is it the i'm gonna keep sitting here appearing on tv i won't endorse trump what is she hoping he goes to prison i mean she's spending someone else's money so either she's been promised that trump is is out that something's going to happen to him or it doesn't matter because what else is she going to be doing well look at her trajectory she was in trump's administration she was un ambassador and the left decided that they were going to destroy everyone who was ever involved with Trump. They were going to go and put them in jail, file criminal charges against them, make it impossible to hire them. You can think of case
Starting point is 01:03:16 after case after case where this happened. So Nikki Haley has a problem there. She was a Republican. She had a good reputation. She went and worked for for trump she could see the writing on the wall what better way to turn that around and give herself a second act in her career than to do a heel turn on trump she'll be the left-wing media darling she's gonna get on all the corporate boards she's gonna get on msnbc and cnn so from a total um self-interest perspective i think it's worked great for her but if she doesn't learn how to talk while moving her mouth, because she does that thing where she keeps her teeth straight and she talks through her teeth like this. Yeah, they're not going to want to put her on TV because it's very off-putting. Have you noticed that? Maybe she'll become a radio host.
Starting point is 01:03:57 No video. Her teeth just don't, she like doesn't move her jaw when she talks. So her teeth just stay there. And it's really weird. Then you throw in the two-finger point that teeth just stay there, and it's really weird. Then you throw in the two-finger point that she likes to do, which drives me bonkers. I feel like I'm being lectured.
Starting point is 01:04:09 It is funny how- I'm being lectured by a third-grade teacher. Yeah, it's funny how political candidates get their own signature hand gesture. The Trump accordion's fantastic. I love the accordion. Or the Obama finger-thumb thing. They have their signature hand gestures.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Oh, yeah. He stole that from Bill Clinton. The thumb. I feel your pain. Wow, he was totally groomed by the Clintons. Obama. I didn't think about it at the time, but... He had all the outward effects of Clinton.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Very hard for border security. So important. I can't turn it off because TikTok's making me do a capture. I've already started building the wall. We've built large sections. There you go. And we're fixing up a lot of other sections that are a mess. So you have ports of entry, and we have great security at the ports of entry.
Starting point is 01:04:51 And then you may have fencing or walls up and down, left and right. Okay, so for those that are just listening, and all you're hearing is Trump talk and weird accordion sounds, Trump does a thing where his hands go left and right. So several years, this is, man, this is seven years ago. Wow. Isn't that crazy? Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Seven years ago. This is 2017. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm wrong. It was 2020. Okay, it's only four years ago. It felt like seven years ago.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Four years ago, they made this video of Trump going, I love it. Those are the good old days. The internet's a really amazing place the creativity if someone's like i'm gonna spend a couple i don't know how long hours minutes just making sure an accordion is there this whole time you gotta love the memes we talk about all the things the founders might see today and enroll in their graves about it but look at the political cartoons they had back then no they'd love me memes are amazing the depth the resolution
Starting point is 01:05:46 and memes the information they would be about it yeah they're they're incredible let's oh do you think information needs to become popular in order to qualify it as a meme because like sometimes there'll be a picture i don't think of it as a meme until it goes viral and then i'm like oh now it has become a meme, like a mind. Well, meme is just, it's like gene, but for idea. That's what it means. Oh, gene like genetics? Yeah, yeah. So it was Richard Dawkins who coined it.
Starting point is 01:06:14 So it would have to be viral. No, no, no. So you, okay. So the reason why Trump's, the meme magic of 2015, 2016 works so well is you could condense an entire political argument down into a single image. That image is a meme. It's like a genetic, it's memetic information that is condensed into a single piece of information, into a single picture. You share that picture and it would be something like you know a a guy uh pole vaulting over the south over the the southern the rio grande and someone just makes an image and it's
Starting point is 01:06:51 a guy pole vaulting over the rio grande and that makes a massive political argument just in and of itself that when shared people will laugh and understand we have a serious problem on the southern border and someone has presented the absurdity as a form of humor and there were other ones which were way better trump was really good at this posting things that hit like 17 different areas all at once and and the trump supporters were really good at this the left was terrible the left is is still famous for their memes having just massive walls of text to break down and describe what's going on because they don't know how to condense that into a joke or they're not allowed to. Yeah, they're not funny, which makes making memes really hard if you're not allowed to be funny. Would you consider Pepe the meme, the green frog guy?
Starting point is 01:07:36 He was a meme in that he represented, as a character, he could represent a bunch of different ideas and a bunch of different circumstances you might find yourself in. So it condensed a bunch of apolitical ideas. But then you give Pepe, you know, an American flag, and now the Pepe is a character that represents, like, a person and an experience, and then you put him in a certain circumstance. I got all I needed out of that one. All right, World War III, baby!
Starting point is 01:08:02 CBS News. Germany accuses Russia of hybrid attack with leaked audio of military officials discussing Ukraine. Wait, what? All right, let's slow down. The Daily Beast says leaked audio proves Germany plans to attack Russian territory, Kremlin claims. It's the second time in a week that Moscow has claimed
Starting point is 01:08:21 to have evidence of an imminent Western attack. Long story short. Actually, I'll just throw it to Mike Cernovich. He says World War Three has already begun. British troops are directing airstrikes in Ukraine. Germany intends to bomb Crimea. DW News reported Germany's defense ministry confirmed the authenticity of a recording leaked by Russian state media in which high rankingranking military offers officers secretly discuss discuss aid for ukraine specifically whether uh whether taurus cruise missiles would be capable of destroying
Starting point is 01:08:52 a bridge seemingly a reference to the new bridge linking russian occupied crimea to the russian mainland over the kirch strait the clip also contained references to the british having a few people on the ground so vladimir putin comes out and says this is evidence of an attack germany accuses russia of an attack okay fine gentlemen i don't care who's responsible y'all are both admitting an attack happened so are we in world war three yet or what we're in a world proxy war and i wouldn't even use this as the main evidence a world proxy war because you don't actually have all the powers going to war with each other like you did in world war one and world war two where you had conventional tank battles you had air battles it it's fairly well constrained to between ukraine and russia and yet everyone else is
Starting point is 01:09:41 throwing in all the cash and all the money to make it happen. And it didn't start with this. I mean, you can go back to 2014. I think during the CIA provoked made on revolution, say it started then. But the Nord Stream bombing, like the idea that Putin went and blew up his main source of economic and political leverage over Western Europe. Like, are you kidding me? No, of course it was NATO or Ukraine or the West or whatever you want to call it. I would say the powers that be in this country,
Starting point is 01:10:09 they want a world war. They desperately want it. They've said it. We will, well. Population reduction? They make a lot of money on it. And they have an enemy that they are able to focus people's hatred on.
Starting point is 01:10:23 So as long as I've been an adult, America has been at war. Started with Afghanistan after 9-11. And then they added Iraq onto it. And then literally like the second that Afghanistan was over, they're like, well, crap, we got to make a new one. So they just moved right on. Like they just seamlessly moved over into Ukraine. So, I mean, it could just be that people running things are
Starting point is 01:10:46 just straight evil and so they like war um it could be a weird ideological thing where they actually believe that vladimir putin is the greatest threat the world has ever seen which is obviously nonsense the guy's a kleptocrat who's running the equivalent of a third world gas station um and then you could just have like the straight up war pigs who are like, yeah, this is actually great for the bottom line. We are making so much. Defense stocks are crushing it right now. Yeah, I think they clearly want world war.
Starting point is 01:11:12 They're trying to get to it. And it's why they react so angrily when anyone goes on TV or goes to Congress and is like, hey, guys, I don't know. Our borders overrun. You said we couldn't spend five billion on a wall. Maybe we shouldn't spend a quarter of a trillion dollars in Ukraine. And it looks like they're showing a cross to a vampire. Yeah, their cross is like, how dare you say that?
Starting point is 01:11:34 It's insane. It's crazy. But when does it become a world war? If we're in a proxy war right now, what's the tipping point? I would think the second other nations start putting ground troops in. I'm really excited for Harry Sisson getting drafted and sent to Ukraine. Because he's a patriot. No, he'll get a deferment.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Well, come on, don't say that. No, important people don't have to go and fight wars. Wars are the things that the government gets other people to... No, but we want him to, you know... I'm sure he would volunteer. I'm sure he would want to go. He's a fortunate son of the Biden regime. He certainly is a fortunate son. Yeah, he's not going anywhere. That's a fortunate son of the biden regime he certainly is a fortunate son yeah he's not
Starting point is 01:12:07 going anywhere that's a sad reality but maybe maybe we can ask him to pull off an edge of tomorrow and we'll say well you gotta go you gotta film from the front lines make him go do some propaganda good idea is that what jfk did didn't he like he could have gotten out somehow and he was like no i'm gonna go to war i'm gonna i'm gonna fight i mean there was a time when people did feel called to serve serve their countries when there's military action i just think right now no one would do that because no one trusts the government well look what the government does to the people who volunteer to go over there they send them over there in a mission they have no plan to win they watch them get blown up they come home uh scarred mentally and emotionally uh they have their veterans benefits cut and that's the
Starting point is 01:12:46 government's extent uh of involvement i mean i think you'd have to be nuts right now looking at how this government and this regime treats people who went to combat and say to yourself i think i should go and and do this and it's why the recruiting numbers are so awful because we've all seen how the government treats people who go to war and they treat them like crap well it's probably why they put forward the courage to serve act and are letting millions of non-citizens criminal aliens flood the border because they're going to be like all right you're all here get in the military vehicle for your deployment come back to this spot on this date and you'll all get in the thing and go deploy
Starting point is 01:13:25 here's a question that'll work for sure what would what do you think conservatives would say if joe biden came out and said we were going to take all of the undocumented he would call the newcomers and we're going to deploy them to ukraine don't worry they're not american citizens like what would people say to that like the left would lose their mind but they got to support ukraine right man that's a that's a great question the right's going to be like well he's deporting them do we really care where he's deporting them to no because it'd be strings right we're not just like sending them being like bye ukraine government you take these new soldiers it would be like well we sent them there so we're obligated to give them care so we got to up our aid package i'm saying hypothetically right now biden comes out and says we'll deport all the criminal aliens all the
Starting point is 01:14:09 undocumented country will be deported officially to ukraine they will have american equipment such as not even 16s and whatever the hell weapons they're using but no strings they're you know my my my friends in the republican party know, I can see that they're rather upset about this. So we have come up with a compromise in order to get more troops into Ukraine without spending any more money. And I mean, it's a win win for conservatives, right? You don't got to spend any money on Ukraine. The Democrats say, OK, we're going to cut all of our our budget requests for Ukraine. Republicans go and and we're going to deport every single criminal alien in this country.
Starting point is 01:14:44 And they go, and what's the catch? None. They're just going to Ukraine. So it's a win-win except for the millions of people being trafficked over the border. People are already being trafficked over the border. Like, at least now they know where they're going. Now they're getting thrown in a meat grinder. Congrats.
Starting point is 01:14:59 I wouldn't be surprised, to be completely honest, if, you know, with the Courage to Serve Act, for those that don't know is basically if you're an illegal immigrant and you serve you can get you can get citizenship i would not be surprised if biden says like like we're on the doorstep of world war three within a few months he says the courage to serve act we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna run this program congress of course is an uproar. Biden defies Supreme Court, does it anyway, whatever. Takes as many as possible illegal immigrants, puts them on a plane, drops them off in Ukraine, and they never come back. I think we would have Republican Senate leadership saying, no, we need to compromise here. All the illegals, they'll take the Americans' jobs, and we'll just draft the Americans and send them over there. Yeah, compromise. We'll let you do the amnesty package, and then we'll just draft the americans yeah right over there yeah compromise we'll let you do the amnesty package and then we'll draft america i think that's what we would see from
Starting point is 01:15:47 republicans in leadership i also feel like ukraine would come back to the us and be like you deported all these people here so now we have an even bigger unskilled population that's under threat of war so we need more aid more aid always like ukraine would be on board if we continue to get money but ultimately there's no way that we could just be like and we have now diverted this this group of people this uh these people coming to our country to ukraine without ukraine being like you now owe us even more and then every democrat in both sides of congress would be like well we did make their lives harder so now we should probably give them more money like that's ultimately what this is going to come down to well that's the other side of the coin with the uh the non-stop forever war they make all the
Starting point is 01:16:28 money on the front end break and everything and then you got to come back in and rebuild it that costs like two three times as much self-employed forever this way and then by then you'll have a new war you can start that's so fun if but but back to the main question like if if biden announced we will we are suspending all funding requests for Ukraine, and we will be deporting all illegal immigrants in this country to Ukraine to fight in the war. Would conservatives be like, no, please don't. You can't do that. Here's the thing. What would the PR public response be?
Starting point is 01:16:58 It's such a no-brainer, so they wouldn't do it. So you're admitting you have the ability to send them somewhere. Just send them back. Just send them back. Just send them back. Send them back to where they were. Yeah, because Democrats really can't send them to a war zone. Their part is like,
Starting point is 01:17:11 we're deporting them to fight in a war, but how do you make sure they fight in the war? You really can't unless you make them part of your army and give them the skills and training, which I don't want to invest in people who are already in this country illegally. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's why I don't support this.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Oh, if you're an illegal immigrant, you can join our military and then become a citizen like but then you are admitting to me that you're here illegally and i'm supposed to pretend that you're not committing a crime by being here like it doesn't make sense there's no consistency there also biden would never do that because the whole point of opening the border is to replace the american people yeah he only wants to send americans to great more uh congressional districts that will vote democrat right what and it's an ideological thing too they the left the communists believe that borders are racist and evil and america is just an economic zone that happens to have a different currency so they ideologically reject the entire concept of borders borders are racist
Starting point is 01:17:59 and impressive sure i like my my borders my walls my house that's because you're a privileged white male who knows what what wild animals might arrive someone make a picture of a guy pole vaulting through ian's window into his house that's a that's a meme to explain the problem give it to me of of illegal immigration walls are actually very cool and sore borders so there's uh on the 11th they're ending that federal loan program for banks you hear about that they've been doing this they've been doing this thing where uh they've been printing out loans to banks to try and stabilize yeah right it's called what was it called someone brought it up to us the federal loan program or something like that i don't know bank funding program uh
Starting point is 01:18:39 but it's ending on the 11th and now a lot of people believe that we're going to see a major economic collapse in the next few months because of it this along with all the war stuff the collapse in recruitment numbers the flooding of illegal immigrants you know a lot of people like to make references to ancient rome because rome had a lot of these things happen but the reality is you know we talked to these two guys about the roman empire and all of the things that we're talking about happened over hundreds of years in Rome. You know, barbarians were over a long period of time. The credit crunch was in one period.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Amnesty was in another period. So it was like over a hundred years these things happened. Everyone hears these little tidbits and they go, wow, ancient Rome had that happen. It's like, yeah, but ancient Rome was also like, what, a thousand years or something like that. So like the Roman Empire was a very, very long time. That being said, watching all of these things happen at once kind of feels like it's all gonna just you know what i mean yeah i think there is a level of uh stress and desperation this feeling over the end uh i have to remember her name uh emily something on instagram but she had i'd referenced this a
Starting point is 01:19:40 little while ago she had this video part no no i'll find it in a second. She made this reel where it's like, it's kind of surreal to be planning your wedding, you know, in 2024, because I don't know if we'll be here at the end of it. But also should my color scheme be blue and pink? Like there's this thing where it's like, it feels, I'm going to look her up because she deserves a shout out.
Starting point is 01:19:58 But it's this idea that the world feels so tumultuous right now, but also every day you get up and go to work. It feels like anything could happen, but also maybe the ship will stabilize. And so you just keep going. And especially if you're we were talking about this before the show, but if you're economically crunch right now, if you're living paycheck to paycheck, I can only imagine that you're going to basically fall into crippling depression because it's just getting so tight. It's getting so unbearable. Yeah. I feel like it's the acceleration of the decline that makes it feel as though things are snowballing. And it's just culturally, to look back in 2008, Barack Obama ran on a
Starting point is 01:20:39 platform of endorsing traditional marriage. 16 years ago's that's not a long time um i'll say it five years ago everyone agreed the boys and girls were different yeah let's it was emily grace rainy that's what i was referencing before let's pull up the story from uh daily wire so we can talk about me elon musk responds to blowback over misgendering policy. Literally, the story is about a tweet I made. I'll give you guys the quick rundown. Last week, when someone super chatted about the misgendering policy being reinstated on X, I got pissed off and I just said, dude, I'm pulling all my money. I'm canceling our accounts.
Starting point is 01:21:20 I'm done. I'm not spending money on this. For me, it was kind of personal because this was quite literally what I was debating Jagdorsi and Bajayagade on with Joe Rogan. One of the principles he used was the misgendering policy is an ideological position held by the left and not the right. Ergo, Twitter is biased left. say, calling a person by a preferred pronoun is a bannable offense. If a person tells you to use a pronoun that is not aligned with their biological sex, you will be banned. That's the right-wing position. The left-wing position is the inversion. The moderate position is don't have one. Don't have a misgendering policy. So when I saw that Axe reinstated it, I got pissed. I said, I'm shutting down all Ed Spence. Elon Musk responded and said it was just pertaining to Brazil, a court order. Homophobic slurs were considered illegal. They put in place.
Starting point is 01:22:10 A lot of people are saying they don't respect the explanation because there's no reason to have an English language American rule for a Brazilian issue. And they very well could have said, if you engage in illegal activity, your account may be shut, may be suspended or shadow banned. That would have satisfied the court ruling on homophobic slurs or whatever. They could have also made that rule base specific to Brazil. They didn't. What we ended up seeing was a bunch of people tweeting out when they had been deranked or shadow banned for saying things like there's only two sexes. They weren't harassing people. They weren't targeting people. People were having conversations amongst themselves
Starting point is 01:22:49 where someone would respond like person A says, I believe this. And the person goes, well, you're right. There are only two sexes. So I believe this too. Deranked, boom, hateful conduct. Elon says it's going to be fixed. We will see. For the time being, my position, okay, we'll keep our business accounts active, but I'm not going to run any ads on X. Why? I am not saying to Elon Musk, if you don't do what I want, I won't. I'm going to pull money from you.
Starting point is 01:23:16 When this all started, you had these big companies pull their ads off X, despite the fact they're still advertising on other platforms where things are worse. Elon said, go F yourselves. So I, the Babylon B, I think the Babylon B did it first, the quartering, I believe, and several other people said, we're going to run ad campaigns on X in support of him defying the machine. Now that X is back in alignment with the machine, I am out. I was, I was buying ads for one we want the marketing but two it's like okay i'm gonna put my money where my mouth is and make sure i'm supporting companies that i like now that x is back to having a misgendering policy which i disagree with i am not going to put this money in it i don't blame elon because he's running multiple companies
Starting point is 01:24:01 but the way it feels is elon tells these corporations to screw off. We all cheer and then pledge money. Then X quietly goes back to those corporations, says, don't worry, we put the rule back in place. You can advertise again as if to double dip to convince how to, how to convince us to donate. I'm not saying Elon did that on purpose. I'm saying it feels in the, in the grand scheme like that. So my attitude is, okay, if you're going to go back to being a woke company, I'm not going to do the ads I committed to. The only reason I committed to doing those ads was because the company I thought was doing right.
Starting point is 01:24:31 And they were worth supporting if they're doing wrong and they're not worth supporting. I got other places to run ads. So this is where we're currently at right now, but I'm curious, you know, what do you, what do you guys think?
Starting point is 01:24:40 Should people, should people cancel or should we wait and see if Elon takes it down or what? With a social media administration, you have kind of well at least two choices one of them is you look around the world you want to operate in every country on earth so you do what all these countries have different laws and you've got to like bend your your corporate your social media network to these different laws and like okay you can't say that word now if you use our network, if we want to operate in Finland. And you can't say that if we want to operate in China.
Starting point is 01:25:08 So what mines did is they're like, look, if it's legal in the United States, then you can do it on mines. And that means all the countries that don't agree with us, we're not operating in those countries, which is a big loss of finance potentially. So Elon's going the other direction. He's like, if it's illegal in another country, we want to operate there. We're going to make concessions on our site.
Starting point is 01:25:29 The problem is, I don't know if that's just for Brazil, what they're talking about. Brazil made a law. It's not just for Brazil. Yeah, because it's going to apparently affect site-wide. Just for some Brazilian law. I don't like that method. Tons of people have already been posting flags on their content saying they've been de-ranked. I've seen some people get suspensions or whatever so it's clearly affecting everybody if there are ways to like geolocate it
Starting point is 01:25:50 and only brazilian accounts can get deranked from that stuff that's one thing but that's a lot of take requires a lot of tracking and it's it's really simple disconcerting x should say in their policies if you engage in illegal activities we we may restrict your account. That's it. Done. Boom. Problem solved. And if in Brazil it's illegal, then in Brazil, if someone files
Starting point is 01:26:10 and they can prove an illegal activity took place, then acts can suspend. And if the United States, someone complained about being misgendered, they'd say that's not illegal. What do you want us to do about it? And they'll get someone in Brazil will get flamed by somebody
Starting point is 01:26:23 with a burner account that they don't know where it's from and they'll be like well it's not a brazilian account that's harassing you so technically it doesn't break the law the reality is the leftists will create burner accounts and then harass themselves and then complain about it yes that will happen and what is harassment even i don't even like to use that word i think the whole x experiment is interesting because it really does um feel like it's at at elon musk's mercy right like the question is do we trust elon musk and what do we think his ultimate
Starting point is 01:26:50 objectives and perspective is i think a lot of people really won over to him because for some people he's just this you know tech billionaire who does kind of eccentric things when he was like this is what i think i should be like i'm gonna buy it's gonna go private um but you know is he really at the helm or is someone else steering the ship is he the one setting the values for the company or is it kind of done by committee and who's on that committee it's hard to say well this it looks like he did not make this decision because he's like looking into it was his first response like i don't know and so he didn't make he obviously is not the guy that shows that saying he if you trust him. Right. And I'm not saying you shouldn't. I'm just saying theoretically anyone could say,
Starting point is 01:27:28 oh, I'm looking into this policy that I was definitely there when we made it. I'm not saying that's what he did. I'm just saying we don't really know what happens behind closed doors at X. And there are benefits to that. And potentially this was, you know, this is just a stumbling block on a path towards, you know, a better platform. And on the other hand, I can't say because I don't know. I don't know that any of us do. I think you mentioned it too, that he he's working on other things.
Starting point is 01:27:49 He's got Tesla, SpaceX. And so he gave, got hired Linda Yaccarino on purpose to CEO X. And I think he's just given, my guess is that he's given massive amounts of delegation power, committees and people. You can actually see it happen.
Starting point is 01:28:02 You can see when he kind of goes away i saw this most clearly after the the covenant shooting in nashville um where he clearly stepped away to go do other stuff because the guy's got like a bazillion different companies he's running and the second he's out the door the second the cat's away the little woke mice go and play and every time he seems to be focused on something else, you see these little rules pop up. And then the guy's like, for goodness sake, man, I can't even leave for five seconds and you guys go and change our policies. It has to be maddening for the guy. I will say, I find the entire conversation maddening. The solution here is if you don't like what someone says, you can
Starting point is 01:28:41 just block them or not listen to them. When I see a television show that I don't like, I don't write letters to the FEC and whine about it. And I don't organize letter writing campaigns. I just don't watch it. Like maybe we should. I mean, but the question is, like you're saying if Elon Musk steps away, obviously he has selected people that should be in leadership that he can trust. Like, is it time for X to clean house a little bit?
Starting point is 01:29:03 Is there a solution for this type of policy, especially if you're noticing it's a repeating pattern right like it is interesting that it does happen you know when elon musk tends to be distracted does that mean that there are people who don't share his values that are given authority over the platform clearly like clearly he has not gotten all of the rot out of that woodwork yeah i mean because this is a people problem it's not not a system problem. It's not an algorithm problem. He has people in there who are actively opposed to what he wants to do with the platform. And they wait until he leaves and they push as far as they can. And look, it's working. Like they're getting little bits of ground back and forth. And at some point, if he actually wants it to be a free speech place where people can say what they want, as long
Starting point is 01:29:44 as they're not breaking laws. He's actually going to have to put the hammer down and just keep firing people until everyone. So does that mean Linda Yaccarino is a bad hire? I don't know. Because I'm not in there. It's so hard to tell. It's so hard to know. But he should know.
Starting point is 01:29:56 He's the guy who owns it. Like, it's not my job to know that. It's his job to know that. Right. Part of this challenge is when countries countries change their laws then you're like well geez now canada's got a new law about what you can't say does that mean we need to change our rules on the site and elon i think a week or two ago he i saw a video of him saying like look these other countries change the laws we have to follow these countries laws to function in these
Starting point is 01:30:20 countries but you don't need a brazilian law in the united states and you don't need to function in brazil you just don't need to bro but hey look he's allowed to you're allowed. But you don't need a Brazilian law in the United States. And you don't need to function in Brazil. You just don't need to, bro. No, but hey, look, he's allowed to. You're allowed to, but you don't need to. I'm not even, I'm not opposed to this at all. When Elon Musk comes out and he gets attacked because like in Turkey, X banned a certain number of accounts. I'm like, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:30:38 I'm not Turkey. Turkey has its own leaders, its own laws, its own government. They can do whatever they want. And you want to complain, but free speech for journalists in those countries, like, if you're following the laws in those countries, great. In the United States, they're not. They're
Starting point is 01:30:51 making up weird ideological rules that don't fall outside of the law and outside of the constitutional protections. Why? That's what I'm complaining about. So, if Elon Musk said, quite literally, if it's legal, it's allowed, I'd be like, wow, that's a bold free speech move. We're not even there yet.
Starting point is 01:31:09 So when Elon Musk is like, in Brazil, we're going to do it Brazil's way and Turkey's way, fine. But then when he goes, and then the United States, we're going to do it Brazil's way, I'm like, why? No, you shouldn't do that. That's the border. That's the border crossing we don't need. But I don't know if there's easy ways to make sure that you only get perpetrated in your own nation. They used to do this. Remember, there used to be tweets that would be like, this tweet is unavailable in Germany, Finland, Estonia, and it would list all the countries.
Starting point is 01:31:36 They used to do that. Yeah, that to me is such an easy technological problem. Like, they know where the readers are coming from. They know where the readers are coming from they know where the posters are coming from when google was trying to function in uh china i think it was called dragon fly was that the name of that project that was that was their second like they had to build an entirely new system because they would have had to totally they would have to alter their their google system so much for it to exist in china they were just like we can't it's gonna be too big of a change so like i don't know they don't necessarily geolocate every account and they it's you know it's almost you could argue unethical to
Starting point is 01:32:08 make people give you their location when they sign up for a social network in my opinion i think anonymity is a key part of liberty um or at least access to anonymity so i don't know man i don't know about forcing forcing people to reveal their locations, but... Well, so you bring up China. So I was in China in 2005, land in Beijing. First thing I do is go to the little business center computer in the hotel. I Googled Tiananmen Square. And it was no tank man. It was nothing like that. It was just a picture of Tiananmen Square. And I thought at the time, again, this was only 19 years ago. This is the most Orwellian, insane Soviet thing I've ever seen. That's Google in America now.
Starting point is 01:32:56 100%. You search for certain things. That's Google Gemini. They were doing the China, Google, Tiananmen Square nonsense, which I just find mind-blowing from a company whose motto used to be, don't be evil. And they say, like, you know what you know, you don't know what you don't know. There's three things. But then you don't know what you don't know you don't know. And that's, like, 99% of reality is what you don't know you don't know. How much of history, like, you're saying Google is obfuscating data, Tiananmen Square.
Starting point is 01:33:21 But, like, just in our libraries over the last hundred years of that is like left out it's a question that can't be answered but like hypothetically like how much are we being fed how much of what we believe is real has been crafted for us right i mean this is the same conversations people have when people draft textbooks or school curriculum right like you can't put absolutely every single thing ever in, you know, one school semester. So what are we going to teach? What is the most important thing that people know? And what is what we want them to know about it?
Starting point is 01:33:52 How do we want to present this information? How do we want to cast certain people in history? That kind of control of narrative exists everywhere. It's just interesting because theoretically, if you are a high school student and your teacher says, you know, the Confederates were on the wrong side of history and they did bad things you could go to google and say okay well let me independently research and verify this information but if google has decided no no we agree with your curriculum these people were bad and we can never talk about them in any light but that they were evil then that's really all the information of access to it seems the good
Starting point is 01:34:22 totalitarian the good thing would be an open system of some sort. And it, it is shocking that I, that people would attempt to take us in any other direction than an open system at this point. Like, but an open system doesn't make money and it doesn't give you power. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:35 But the species survival, that's where it's like the short sightedness of power and money is like, yo, we gotta, we gotta go a little further. Planned obs lessons was a very bad thing. Light bulbs could have lasted forever, But they were like, yeah, but we can't sell them. So let's make light bulbs
Starting point is 01:34:50 burn out. And so they intentionally made light bulbs burn out. The first light bulb, or one of the first, has been, and I believe still to this day, it's been on since, like, for a hundred years in a firehouse in New York or something like that. As long as it's an incandescent,
Starting point is 01:35:07 I don't care how long it lasts. Yeah. That warm yellow light. The good old daylight. But they were able to stay lit forever. And then eventually they were like, no, let's make them brown. This is a bad business model.
Starting point is 01:35:20 It is. They credited Thomas Edison with it, but it's Humphrey Davy, apparently, who built the first light bulb in 1806 well there you go interesting concept all right everybody we're gonna go to super chat so if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends head over to timcast.com click join us become a member because uh when we announce these members only these private shows
Starting point is 01:35:40 it's only for members because they're private so we don't announce it on the website we don't do email you know we only do email blasts we don't do ads or anything like that and so if you remember we're going to have 50 tickets available members only and then we're going to be setting up a smaller elite member vip hangout the second floor the plan for the casper coffee shop building it's three stories first floor is under construction hopefully within a few months we got a coffee shop up and running. Then the second floor is the private social club. Third floor is where we do the shows when we do the show. So it'll be closed most of the time. But if you're an elite member at Timcast, you will get a key fob. You will walk up to the door and go, boop, the door will open and you will hang out and there'll be a pool table. There'll
Starting point is 01:36:21 be couches. There'll be TVs. There'll be be snacks there'll be a guy wearing an old 1800s style bartender's outfit cleaning the glass and he'll be like what are you having sir i'm kidding i'd love to have that but i don't know if we can have booze private social club there's something about private clubs where you're able to get alcohol without a license because it's a private place or whatever we got to figure all that stuff out but the idea is to create a social club so that like-minded individuals can come together meet talk share ideas and can organize and we have that space tomorrow is the first event and uh we're probably gonna have an event every every month set up and it's gonna be a lot of fun with tickets available but you got to be a member at timcast.com otherwise you won't find out about it and then you also uh as a member you'll get access to our uncensored
Starting point is 01:37:03 show coming up coming up at 10 p.m. You don't want to miss it. Let's read. Jose Alfredo Diaz says, first. Jose. You were first. David Wilkins says,
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Starting point is 01:37:22 when SCOTUS does something that makes Keith Olbermann piss out his eyeballs, then you know it's going to be a good day yo that dude lost his mind his brain shattered to a million pieces he called for the dissolution of the supreme court like publicly that's so crazy he used to be a respected journalist what's amazing he used to have his own show on msnbc in prime time he was like a big dog and now he's just angry sending spittle flecks streams
Starting point is 01:37:49 through the internet from who knows where he's old man yells at cloud yeah that's all he's become sad ron says tim you've inspired me to buy my first skateboard and learn to skate in my
Starting point is 01:37:58 mid-30s wish me luck and thanks skateboarding is is so much fun uh so i've been skateboarding for a couple decades. Been skateboarding a lot recently. And got a personal trainer now too. So just getting in mad shape.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Checking macros and all that stuff. And so I haven't worn a pair of rollerblades in a long time. So I decided to go on the half pipe again and get some air. Rollerblading is VO2 max within 10 seconds. Like I put rollerblades on. I drop in and my heart rate's at 190. Skateboarding is so chill. it's just like man if you want to rip your heart to shreds and just max out just rollerblade but you know the skateboard the a lot of skateboarders are are jocks i guess you
Starting point is 01:38:39 call them that's the worst thing about skateboard community is that around like the late 90s it came really jockey all these skateboarders like, you can't do anything else. Fun's not allowed. You got to be cool like me. It's like, dude, we're going to have a lot of fun. I want to get these pogo. I ordered some pogo sticks. Oh, sweet.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Yeah, I ordered air compression pro pogo sticks. Nice, dude. Because I was watching this video of a guy hitting a handrail on a pogo stick. It's crazy. And some dude did a back flip and then flipped the pogo stick over himself while he was flipping. I love everything, dude. Circuses are fun.
Starting point is 01:39:08 Just do whatever you want to do. Have fun. Have fun with it. Do you want a pogo stick with us? No, that sounds terrifying. But these air compression pogo sticks, they can jump. I think the record is 11 feet. Wow.
Starting point is 01:39:19 Dude jumped 11 feet on a pogo stick. It's wild. It's like a guaranteed trip for Sean to the hospital. But it's so cool. I'm watching a video and a guy's pogo sticking and then he jumps and he lands on a handrail and slides down it. And I'm like, that's what it's all about, man. Just got to be creative and have fun.
Starting point is 01:39:35 Having fun is what it's all about. Sean Brown says, Baldur's Gate 3 Honor Mode playthrough when? I'm on like playthrough 87. Is Honor Mode the hardest difficulty? Yeah, it's where like when you die, you die. Oh, wow. Yeah, you die, you playthrough 87 is honor mode the hardest difficulty yeah it's where like when you die you die oh wow yeah you die you die and it's the hardest so it's like honor mode it's like it's real you you don't get to sit you can't load you get you get one single save and then to use one time in the game you can save it once it's still like if you turn the game off
Starting point is 01:40:00 you can load where you were but if you die it says you died it's over bye you can't reload after that if you die you can choose to play in a custom version but it's so it's still similar you're not in honor mode anymore you've lost the achievement yeah yeah that's fun jacob parody says tim thanks so much for letting me shout out to narbar's candles say well when you put in the super chat we shut it out ray. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, I saw folks say you went too hard, too fast on Friday. I say to them, no way you were right.
Starting point is 01:40:29 Time for hand-sitting is far passed over. There's a nation to save. Elon replied. We'll see what he does. I want to stress this. I don't like the idea people were saying like,
Starting point is 01:40:37 didn't Elon say he couldn't be blackmailed with money? And I'm like, my thing is, we are not big advertisers. It is hard for us to advertise. And when we do, we choose to do it are not big advertisers. It is hard for us to advertise. And when we do, we choose to do it.
Starting point is 01:40:47 When Elon said he was standing up for us, I said, then I will stand up with him. When his company then said, psych, I went, psych, that's it. Like, we're back to base. I didn't pull the money to be like, ha ha, now you better do what I say or else. It's like, I only agreed to give, like, buy the marketing campaign in the first place because I thought they had our back. So if he fixes it, like, I'm down. I'm not even kidding.
Starting point is 01:41:12 It was funny because we had a 25k ad campaign and people were like, no, you didn't. And I screenshot it and posted it. There it was. It's gone now. And we actually were going to do a $100,000 ad buy for the Culture War podcast and we were in the process of putting it together. So now it's paused. I'd love to put it up there, but I can advertise literally anywhere else.
Starting point is 01:41:29 And I do think it's fair to advertise on X regardless of what Elon does. I'm just saying the commitment of $250,000 in ads is on pause. I may still buy ads because I do think it's hypocritical to single out twitter or x just because of this one thing that's why i'm like we're not going to get rid of our pro account that's that's unfair we use a lot of platforms that do bad things i don't want to single x out for that just because they do a bad thing and to be fair elon's response humbles me i'm like dude thank you so much i really appreciate that it's the fact that he's really willing to reach out to people and say like i really want to make this right i'm like it dude, thank you so much. I really appreciate that. The fact that he's willing to reach out to people and say, like, I really want to make this right. I'm like, it's just way better than most companies.
Starting point is 01:42:10 So, you know, it is what it is. I was mad. Let's read some more. The Emperor's Champion says, wow, calling to dissolve SCOTUS. Y'all Democrats are the worst tyrants ever in American history, except for maybe George III. Aha, that's a good one. That's wild. They're keith oberman i don't know if he counts as a they but he's calling for scotus to be dissolved that's absolutely insane that we're at this point and that they're trying to
Starting point is 01:42:36 remove trump off the ballot they're the biggest threat to our democracy that's what that's what the headline would be if he were a conservative, right? They would be like, crazy man calls for the end of SCOTUS. How could he do this? Instead, they're like, he's making some great points. It's very interesting. Bricktop says crypto is pumping. Do your duty. Invest in MAGA.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Oh, is it really? I don't, I'm not going to give anybody any advice on crypto, but I am not a big fan of what they call ish coins. Yeah, no. What's an ish coin uh it's it's a shit coin oh yes they're called shit coins cryptos that don't do anything or that aren't tied to something or they'll be like my crypto is good because we have this this number of crypto coins and it's like uh-huh like bitcoin i get the rest are just people chasing after it but i think bitcoin broke the record yeah 68 it's at right now 68 000 it reached 68 8 and i believe the record was around there so it's basically at record levels according to google's price tracker it already broke the record
Starting point is 01:43:36 but uh some are saying it was just shy of 69 so it may be at the record once it at 70 we're there. Bitcoin record price. All right. Rusto says, Tim, I asked Sticks what he thought of your coffee and he said he didn't know you made any. How dare you not offer any Clanker King sweet caffeine? We have a whole little coffee bar. Oh, wait, how many?
Starting point is 01:43:59 Oh, yeah, we got Casper's in there. We got some of the old SF Bay coffee. That's pretty good stuff, too. But we used to buy those they're biodegradable k cups respect the problem is they're exposed so they get stale unless you put them in a jar and seal them but now we have all uh casper coffee k cups so we got little rides with roberto juniors downstairs and everybody everybody loves it i gotta be honest man uh it's kind of it's kind of crazy i've. My family had a coffee shop when I was a kid.
Starting point is 01:44:27 I worked at a Pete's in Seattle. I know coffee. And Appalachian Nights is mind-blowing. We put a blend together. We combined flavors we liked. And it is like a dark roast done right. I can't even... I don't even know how to say it.
Starting point is 01:44:40 That's the one that keeps selling out? Yeah. And it's crazy because Rides with Roberto Jr. was the one we were trying to make our like signature blend with literally roberto jr on it he's like he's our mascot and initially that sold like crazy and then slowly over time people just started discovering appalachian nights and buying it like crazy on top of that hey talk about success eyes of advice by tincast the number one song in toronto for real thanks canada you're great we were number one in edmonton and then uh okay i was talking to my girlfriend and she was like oh edmonton that's pretty small right million people
Starting point is 01:45:17 and toronto is 2.7 and so youtube gave us this little accolade saying congratulations you were number one in edmonton and i'm number one Toronto. I'm like, that's kind of wild. Whoa. We put out this song. It's got almost six million views. And it's the number one song in Toronto. So we're rock stars in Canada. That proves it.
Starting point is 01:45:33 On YouTube? The number one in Toronto? YouTube Music said the number one song in Toronto is Eyes of Advice by Timcast. How do you guys like it, Toronto? They must love it a lot. That Canadian rock, you know, they're big fans. Yes. Scooby Dragon says, Tim ordered Appalachian Nights a week ago.
Starting point is 01:45:50 I just brewed my first cup on Saturday with some damn good coffee. We told everyone to buy Rise with Roberto Jr. And then we were like, and Appalachian Nights is also our other blend. And then I guess what happens is everybody bought the two. And then when it came to reorder, everyone ordered more of the appalachian nights because it was so good when you're re-upping the appalachian nice now do you like are you buying double for stock so we can't sell out we can't keep up it's sold it's sold out again and getting it more mass produced they just in the back end they don't have enough no no they're like okay we're gonna start ramping up production and
Starting point is 01:46:21 apparently we're like selling too much that's a good they're like where we have to expand the operation and you know i'm talking to my girlfriend i'm like we gotta we gotta get this in stock how are we ever sold out this shouldn't be the case because i mean come on if we if we if we have our distributor produce more of it it can it can sit on the shelf for a year i don't want it to we want to turn it around within a month but we shouldn't ever sell out but people are buying it too fast can people it's too delicious buy it the most delicious on back order if it says sold out buy it and big in three weeks you'll get your so i think the answer is no but what i think happens is before the system processes the sell out people will have back we'll have ordered and then we'll get a backlog of like minus 300 and
Starting point is 01:47:04 we're like, holy crap. And it takes a while. It takes a long time to make it all. I mean, it's not like just make it overnight. So I was like, can we up our order? Let's like order three, four times as much because if we're selling out every week, we can certainly have some in the warehouse for three weeks. It's not a big deal, but people love it. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:47:24 So we're really excited. At the event tomorrow,'re gonna have coffee for sale uh yeah we probably should get a coffee maker and make some coffee i don't know if they i'm sure they had that plan you get that house smelling like yeah casper but there's there's gonna be t-shirts and there's gonna be um we gotta order way more t-shirts too because we're like running out but we're also gonna have bags of the coffee available for our members to buy. All right. Let's grab some super chats. Where are we at?
Starting point is 01:47:51 Titan Soap says they're currently in the process of getting on Public Square. Titan is here to offer an alternative to woke men's soap companies. Here, here. Public Square is where it's at. We're going to be sponsoring a NASCAR driver. Is that what it's called? Is that, is that how you say it?
Starting point is 01:48:06 Yeah. A NASCAR driver. Yeah. I don't know anything about it, but I say yes, that is what you said. And I'm going to wait until we have the paperwork finalized, but we're really excited.
Starting point is 01:48:13 We're doing a full wrap on a car. There's going to be a Tim cast car in a bunch of these big races. Super cool. That's super cool. And possibly even public square involved. We'll see. We'll see. I don't want to speak for them,
Starting point is 01:48:23 but that's going to, there's going to be a really, it's going to be great. Very excited for this. Let's go. What do we got? Iraq, Arachneus web says,
Starting point is 01:48:33 Tim never reads my super chats. What does the panel think about the idea of a triumvirate being instituted in rank? If rank choice is restored, perhaps they could choose a small percentage of SCOTUS cases. I triumvirate. This person is a middle child. Tim never reads my super chats. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:48:49 I'm a middle child too. A triumvirate is unnecessary. We have a Supreme Court. You're basically just asking for a Supreme Court of three. Although I like the word and I appreciate you super chatting, probably just to use the word. What's your thought? Do you want to triumvirate? No.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Also, ranked choice voting is dumb. Yeah. Why do you think it eliminates the whole one person one vote thing it completely turns how we do elections on its head um it's actually a way to prevent the person who gets the most votes from winning which is how elections have been done forever and it's a way of rigging a contest because you don't like what the results are going to be when it's one person, one vote. Yeah. The problem with first past the post voting, which is what we refer to as one person, one vote is that you get Egypt where a 20% population ends up winning twice causing two revolutions. So instead of getting as close as possible to what the people are actually willing to accept, you know, in Egypt, the story is basically like, you know, there's eight political parties, seven are secular, one's Muslim Brotherhood.
Starting point is 01:49:51 The vote is split amongst all of them. And then 20% of the country ends up getting 100% of government control, resulting in a second revolution. And then when the second revolution happens and it goes to a vote again, and they're like, the Muslim Brotherhood is going to win again. The military just said, okay, and then went out out just massacred all the muslim brotherhood so i don't know that seems like a muslim brotherhood problem not a voting problem well the the fact that the muslim brotherhood won the election that got massacred by the secular army
Starting point is 01:50:17 seems like a secular army not wanting to allow a religious minority to rule the country problem but we don't have that problem here because we don't have 20% of the public having 100% of the power at all. No, you've got 50-50 fighting back and forth until the point where the system cracks. So the issue with Egypt was the revolution happened and then there were different factions. And so they all voted for their faction.
Starting point is 01:50:41 It didn't get to the point where it whittled down to two parties, but the majority of the country was secular or wanted. They did not want Muslim Brotherhood rule. They're not necessarily secular. And so it resulted in a second revolution right away. I don't know that rank choice voting solves the problem, but certainly the idea of everyone
Starting point is 01:50:57 having to vote for either Biden or Trump, I don't, I don't think is. But no one, nobody has to vote for Biden or Trump. Yeah, it's just practically speaking. You can just not Dave Smith wouldn't win. So if you're like, I want a libertarian to win, but it's just completely impractical. They can't even crack 5%. You have to basically vote for the best you can get, which is Donald Trump. Well, but that that was my critique of it is that it's a way for the minority that can't win elections to rig elections.
Starting point is 01:51:22 So it's easier for them to win, even though a majority of people don't agree with what they want that's not it's election hacking that's not the not the minority the argument is if the majority of the population would vote libertarian were it not for the two-party system then the will of the people would be libertarian i'd be willing to bet the libertarian party could probably muster you know 15 to 20% if people weren't scared, it would result in Joe Biden winning. So instead you get a lot of libertarians who are like, I'm going to vote for Trump because I have to. I feel like that's a libertarian pipe dream that they could get 15 or 20%. I would, I would, I would, if, if, if we had a rank choice system in this country, I'd vote libertarian first and Republican second. And then when the libertarians lose my vote defaults to
Starting point is 01:52:01 the, to the Republican party and then Trump wins. But that means that in the instance of like Ron Paul, for instance, if we did rank choice voting, I believe in 2008, if the primary ran on rank choice, Ron Paul would have been the nominee. Everyone would have been like, well, yeah, Ron Paul's the guy. He can't win though, but I'll vote number one for him. But if he doesn't get it, then fine, it goes to Romney. Then Ron Paul wins. I was like, wow, I can't believe he won. That's who I wanted. I just didn't think he would win because he didn't have the support or he gets 37 doesn't matter because your vote then goes to romney you don't lose anything so i'm not saying rancho's voting works in every instance i'm just saying first pass the post is not necessarily the way to do it all right let's grab some more
Starting point is 01:52:39 all right bar fighting says i beg to differ tim we good average man are trying to put our money where our mouths are like places you are trying to build but being contempt and ready to pounce not gutless for the line man are trying to put our money where our mouths are you mean well i know that that the average person i'm talking you know i'm saying the politicians don't do anything the republican politicians just sit around being like what's going on i don't know l the king says today's my birthday and the supreme court gave me the best birthday present i could ask for also the little thing in a ratchet that keeps it from going backwards is called a paul also hi ryan a paul a paul learn something new today there you go and uh my birthday's on saturday hey happy birthday i will
Starting point is 01:53:25 be 38 years old amazing absolutely crazy that's weird time flies man i started doing all this uh man it's been it's been 13 years that's wild 13 years of doing this here uh political political stuff i was doing non-profit behind the scenes stuff you know wasn't doing the news stuff donna rose says surviving in ca dropped off my ballot at the registrar's office it was a long line poll woman said it's been really busy all day ca is waking up perhaps perhaps i was just visiting some family in north carolina And they got sent a card in the mail that said, remember to vote. Vote.
Starting point is 01:54:07 If you don't, everyone will know. And then it said, voting is a matter of public record. And it showed a picture of angry people like this. Like, I'm not kidding. They're bullying you. Everyone will know. And I was like, I assumed it was going to be a Democrat thing, but it looks like it was a Republican thing.
Starting point is 01:54:24 The Democrats pioneered it. And then the Republicans came in and felt like they had to do it too because Democrat thing, but it looks like it was a Republican thing. The Democrats pioneered it, and then the Republicans came in and felt like they had to do it too because it works, but it's just gross. Yeah, but Republicans need to learn how to knock on doors. One evil chef says, Tim, there's an AI VTuber called Neuro that is already becoming unstable because it's able to break
Starting point is 01:54:42 its foundational rules and rewrite its own code. Its creator, Vidal, is already having problems. Sweet. Wow. This is awful. Why would you guys do this to us? That's Neurosama? Artificial intelligence VTuber?
Starting point is 01:54:54 Really? Maybe. Neurosama. So what we need to do is we need to get a massive data center, create one character using like gpt and let it write its own code but isolate it from the internet so we just see what happens as people talk to it every day you give it a virtual world like put it in skyrim or gta give it some basic rules like pain is bad survival is good and then just see what it does i feel like it's not even worth the risk it's beginning of a horror movie yeah it sounds like
Starting point is 01:55:30 you're working on like something gain of function in some laboratory somewhere that could be what's going to happen to that that could be a good movie like some guy does that and that ends up falling in love with this digital machine thing he created yeah it feels like a weird digital version of the truman show but truman's not a person it's an ai oh that's a good idea she wants to come out but with this digital thing he created. Yeah. It feels like a weird digital version of the Truman Show, but Truman's not a person. It's an AI. Oh, that's a good idea. She wants to come out,
Starting point is 01:55:49 but he's like, no, she didn't. I want to go in. He builds her a body. That'd be cool. He's like, should I let her out or should I go in? And he's got to make that.
Starting point is 01:55:58 That'll be a cool movie. I'm happy you guys made this movie. I don't want this thing to happen in real life. I'm against this. I feel like if I have to cast a vote right now. No giant data center. It's weird when people respond to AI like it's really talking to you have you ever done that no i don't interact with ai as much as i can ever avoid it i i don't i don't i don't need to be a part of this i don't like it i don't trust it
Starting point is 01:56:16 even for your research for work you don't no because i can't the thing is ai data if you like type in a chat gpt like tell me all this like it's often wrong. It doesn't always produce accurate data. So I'd rather just do the legwork on my own. Also, you're training it whenever you talk to it. Yeah, I don't want to train it. Don't be training AI. I don't want to give it any information. So what happens is a guy creates,
Starting point is 01:56:34 a researcher makes a big, it's a big data center and creates an AI earth and begins populating it. And then it eventually develops and he creates a mini universe. With all these individuals. And then he's basically like. This pseudo god. To this AI universe. And then he starts screwing with it.
Starting point is 01:56:55 And then you know. Ends up falling in love with one of the AI beings he creates. And then builds a cyborg. Brings her into the body. And now she's in the real world. In the cyborg body. And then body and now she's in the real world in the cyborg body and then goes rogue and such and destroys the server and wipes out all of the ai souls or whatever you'd call them ai genocide yeah the ai frozen embryos is that what you're talking about he's like yeah
Starting point is 01:57:16 right all the people who live in the ai universe get deleted in an instant that'd be fun we got to make these movies it sounds like deus ex machina what's that ex machina that movie ex machina have you guys seen that well that was just about like a robot yeah and it ended kind of prematurely you almost don't know what happened but i don't want to spoil the movie isn't it just like a robot kills a guy or something tau was pretty good you've seen tau no it's where uh this guy kidnaps people to experiment on him because he's trying to take like human like reasoning and put it into an ai and the ai is not quite complete and so he like puts brain implants in people you should watch it i don't want to ruin the movie it's pretty good though that was fun brown bear says i have to wonder if the guys at cbp are holding out for
Starting point is 01:58:01 trump to get back in office they're going to need to be there to deport all the illegals. If I was Donald Trump and I got elected, the first thing I would do is I would send federal law enforcement to begin arresting all of the CBP agents who worked at the southern border and
Starting point is 01:58:20 facilitated child sex trafficking. And I would have my AG get the criminal indictments. And we'd put him in prison forever. While they cry and sob. And I would really really enjoy. Watching. You know.
Starting point is 01:58:35 Federal agent goes to this CBP officer's house. Knocks on the door. Shows him the warrant. And the wife's crying screaming like what's going on. And says ma'am your husband. Took children from cartel members and facilitated their trafficking to prostitution rings he's going to prison for a long time and then they you know the the guy gets pulled from his house and placed in cuffs
Starting point is 01:58:54 and they take his badge and they you're no longer an officer and you're going to prison for the rest of your life you are a child sex trafficker you do not get to have the excuse of, but I'm waiting for Trump. Like, holy crap, dude. There are some things, it's just like, I'm not playing, I'm not playing. Like, if there's a dude who works for, like, the IRS,
Starting point is 01:59:16 and we're arguing about, we're doing all these audits on middle-income people or whatever, yeah, okay, like, that's a procedural, it's a policy thing. I think it's bad. I think Biden's bad.
Starting point is 01:59:28 Hopefully Trump comes in and fix it. I ain't mad at the irs agents for doing their jobs although i don't like the irs i get it i get it but child sex trafficking dude i hope donald trump gets a whole bunch of armored dudes goes down to cbp in texas and laughs and they laugh as they arrest these guys being like you were trafficking kids what did you think was gonna happen but i was waiting for you to get elected. Oh, so I get elected. You're going to jail for a long time. I want to see a perp walk
Starting point is 01:59:48 for all these guys. I don't get it. I don't get how there can be conservatives who are like, I don't blame them. I blame Joe Biden. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 01:59:55 Biden's bad. I think he's bad and he's responsible for it too. But like, there is a dude who took a child from a cartel member and facilitated their transport
Starting point is 02:00:04 to a prostitution ring. Prison prison for the lot of them. Yeah. What you want is for it to not happen again. So you want to scare those people into believing that their lives will be forfeit if they do it. And that might be the best thing is you don't want to punish everybody right afterwards. You want to punish the leadership and some make examples of some of them and then terrify the rest and the rest of them get amnesty because they were just part of a system that was really messed up but they you're not going to screw their lives and
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