Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #978 Marine Father ARRESTED At SOTU For Calling Out Biden Over Son's Death w/Abe Hamadeh

Episode Date: March 9, 2024

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Abe Hamadeh to discuss a Gold Star father being arrested after speaking out during Joe Biden's State of the Union speech, Joe Biden mistakenly referring to Laken ...Riley as "Lincoln Riley," Joe Biden saying he supports banning TikTok, and Meta launching a creepy new AI. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:14 But to find out later he was arrested and charged with a misdemeanor is shocking. Joe Biden's administration should have intervened immediately to protect protect this, recognizing what he was upset about. I think the most important thing is this was not even the most disruptive yelling of the night during the State of the Union. So it is the most shockingly offensive. But why is that surprising? Now, I'm not going to say definitively that Joe Biden went there, banged on the door and demanded the guy be arrested. He was speaking when they brought the guy out and charged him. But certainly by now, he could have intervened and said, are you nuts? This is a man whose child died in Afghanistan under Joe Biden's failed administrative policies and military policies. Naturally, he's upset. It's surprising. Now, Joe Biden's actually getting heavily
Starting point is 00:01:59 criticized for calling Lakin Riley, Lincoln Riley. And it it's just it's you know it's funny to see the corporate press say wow joe biden was so strong he was so on point so we're going to be doing a follow-up post-mortem on the uh state of the union address and where we're at and shout out to donald trump who had the memes he posted this video on instagram where he was using like snapchat filters on Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. It's just so funny. So we're going to have a fun time tonight talking about all that.
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Starting point is 00:03:33 and everything else is Abe Hamadeh. Tim, thank you so much for having me. So a little bit about myself. I'm a former prosecutor at the Maricopa County Attorney's Office. Also a former Army Reserve intelligence officer who served in the Middle East. I ran for attorney general in 2022 in Arizona, you know, with Kerry Lake. And, you know, we saw what happened with that election.
Starting point is 00:03:53 We had our election taken away from us by 280 votes out of 2.5 million, believe it or not. So we're still fighting the election lawsuit. But now I'm running for Congress in Arizona's 8th congressional district. I'm endorsed by President Trump and Kerry Lake. And lake and you know i quickly see our country going to hell so we need a we need some courage in there because you know everything's on the line this november those are those are some great endorsements well they're powerful and that's why you know carrie lake president trump myself we've been fighting for honest elections because we know what's going
Starting point is 00:04:22 on with what's happening i mean mean, it's so despicable. Arizona, especially. That's like the state. It's like third world country. It's embarrassing. But, you know, I think people are waking up a lot faster than people realize. So hope, and it's always darkest before dawn.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And that's what I'm looking forward to. But everything, these next six, seven months is, everything's at stake. Right on. Well, this should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. We got Hannah Clare hanging out. Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I'm a writer for scnr.com. I'm happy to be back tonight. Ian's here too. Yes, hello, everyone. I'm a huge proponent of voter integrity, so I'm glad you're here to talk about this. Maybe we'll go deep on it a little bit. Machine voting makes me very nervous.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Electronic voting at all. We don't have the code. We can't see what the machines are doing. Drives me nuts. So, hey, good to see you, man. You too. Let's go deep. Serge, take me deeper. I'm Serge.com You too. Let's go deep. Surge.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Take me deeper. I'm surge.com. I'm going to be surge.net soon. This is the last surge.com. Yeah, cheers. Right on. Here's the big story from last night. It's one of the most shockingly offensive stories I've seen, I mean,
Starting point is 00:05:18 but I'm not surprised. Gold Star father arrested for State of the Union heckling. Steve Nicowee. How do you pronounce that? Nicowee Union heckling. Steve Nicowee. How do you pronounce that? Nicowee? I've been saying Nicowee. Nicowee. 51 arrested for heckling Biden during State of the Union.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah, but barely, barely. He's a Gold Star dead who lost his son in the 2021 Kabul airport bombing. He was a guest of Florida rep Brian Mast, who was outraged by the arrest. So do they have? What he yelled? He yelled Abbey Gate and United States Marine. And it was not even the most disruptive thing yelled that night. You had people yelling liar at Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Nothing. It almost feels like it was intentionally meant to offend the country. Members of Congress, who most people have utter disdain for, yell things all they want, nothing happens. A guy whose child died serving this nation simply says, abdicate United States Marine Corps, and he gets criminally charged.
Starting point is 00:06:16 They really want us to hate them. That's all I can say. Yeah, it's terrible optics for the Biden administration. I'm trying to pull the name right now, but this father was there as a guest of another congressman. Yeah, Brian Mast. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:27 So the fact that this wasn't a secret, Biden knew he was going to be there and then continues to say, well, it was a great success when we pulled out Afghanistan. It went really well. Like, this is the message that his administration has been telling all of these families, despite the fact that they know differently. They personally suffered the consequences of his ineptitude surge tracked slurs last night what was it was it was it a hundred and what was the final number 113 yeah 113 but that was a low estimate because there were some he was no yeah we were being nice we were being nice so here's
Starting point is 00:06:59 how we counted it and y'all were watching you probably noticed when we were counting if joe biden said something like you know we gotta go buy it but buy buy the the country and we gotta get it we'd be like okay there's one or maybe two depending on how how heavy it was but it really had to be incomprehensible he'd have to say something like we've got to determine when the flugger when when the flag goes up and like I go, okay, there's a slur. But there were several words where he slurred, but we're like, we know what he said. So it's our flag. We're like, okay, he said flag.
Starting point is 00:07:33 We get in the context. So we wouldn't count that. I think we easily could have counted 150. Yeah. And it was multiple per minute. I mean, there wasn't a stretch of time that he was just stumbled for. I mean, anyone who's public speaking for a long time is going to make some kind of error. I'm trying to be harsh fine i mean if i mean multiple per
Starting point is 00:07:48 minute is kind of ridiculous is 30 acceptable no maybe six is when it becomes unacceptable for a president you know state of the union one of the highlights you know the special counsel report that said he wasn't mentally fit right and how here he is giving the State of the Union, not really, you know, I think Republicans have set the bar so low for Joe Biden. So anything of him just going and actually, you know, having a complete sentence is actually positive for him. And that's kind of what we make our mistakes on, because we've been bashing Joe Biden, but so many people, Americans are not paying attention to every single slip that he's making. And that's what's, you know, but the State of the Union yesterday was really, it was a campaign speech. I mean, the amount of times he was mentioning President Trump, the former president. But this
Starting point is 00:08:33 is the radical left. They know that everything is on the line this November. So that's why they're going to go so aggressively using the government's power and the government institutions to go after the political enemies. And that's why they, you know, that, you know, his son died and there's never been accountability for what happened in Afghanistan. And yet they go and charge him with a misdemeanor, but nothing with the Gaza protesters who actually, you know, stood in blocks, blocked the motor, blocked the motor. Nothing happened with that. But here are the, this father who yelled out Abigay and you see the media, how they say
Starting point is 00:09:03 he's heckling him. And I don't think that was a heckle. I think that was just an emotional outburst from a father who wants accountability for what happened in Afghanistan. I put calling out. He called him out because he said murders are down under my administration and then
Starting point is 00:09:18 he yelled United States Marine Corps and I'm surprised they actually pulled him out of the room, be honest i was like oh wow they're taking somebody out because people were yelling right to arrest them the first thing joe biden should have done is is is after this was over and be like what was it you know no no no that's gonna look it's gonna look bad for you you know i mean so politically political strategy wise he should have been like no no no no no that man is released tonight do not do that right i mean
Starting point is 00:09:43 it goes to show that he had all of these political talking point guests in the box right he was like this lady's tried to get an abortion this person's part of the union but he doesn't have any of the the family members of these marines right and that's because this is one of the big flaws of his administration this is one of their biggest failures that they have not been able to negotiate around i mean he really put service members in harm's way. And we're on the brink of, you know, what did he say last night? We're going to put up a temporary point port in Gaza.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I mean, but no boots on the ground, just on the water. He's he is willing to sacrifice your children even and then lie about it. Right. He's not willing to be honest about the dangers that he put service members into and is willing to put them in again what did you guys think about the speech overall right right now you got these democrat pundits being like he was strong there was a video from joe scarborough from before the state of the union that is getting roasted because he's like this version of joe biden is the best version of joe biden he is strong he is bright and it reminded me of the scene from tenacious d with open mic the open mic host you guys remember you ever see that movie where uh so in in the
Starting point is 00:10:51 movie when jack black and kyle gas when you know today go to play for the first time the open mic host is like this next band asked me to read this so okay whatever uh this band and it's like he's not into it and then later on when jack black is he's sleeping as a dream open my coast goes this next band asked me not to read this but i'm gonna read it anyway this band is the best band ever that's what it sounded like like clearly joe biden is out of his mind and jo Scarborough is going on TV, looking at the camera to try and get dead in your eyes and go, Joe Biden is strong. Believe it. You know, if you don't watch Joe Biden, you think he is.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Well, it's not just, you know, Joe Scarborough. If you look at every single media headline, it's really creepy. The regime's media apparatus is nuts. I mean, it's everything said fiery speech, fiery speech over and over and over. And is that how you describe that speech? Is that your adjective for this? It was something. I think there was a lot of gaslighting if that's a fiery.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I mean, for him to suggest that the violence is down in our country and crimes down. I mean, all of it was complete lies. But I mean, will the American people actually understand that? Or are they just going to be listening to the mainstream media? So it's going to be a challenge. And that's what we're facing right now is that I don't think we've ever witnessed before a mainstream media regime basically propping up a president. Biden's not in control of this presidency. We all know that. But the media is carrying the water for him very aggressively. Yeah, it's definitely an interesting position that the media has boxed themselves into because Joe Biden has been speaking publicly for decades.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I mean, you pull video of him on the campaign trail with Obama. I bet he would seem stronger, more with it, have more energy than he does now. So how could you say this is the Joe Biden we want when, you know, even eight years ago, ten years ago, you have evidence that there is a difference between how he presents.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I mean, he's not getting better with time. No, he's not, as per biology. But he's getting exponentially worse and faster. That commercial we played just before the State of the Union where it's like, can Joe Biden even survive till 2029? And I think, of course he can't. He's almost 10 years past standard life expectancy he can but i mean at what what value like well is he just gonna be like i'm alive a human being hypothetically can
Starting point is 00:13:13 and we can extend joe biden's life through great leaps in medical technology but will he be there yeah he might be alive but is he really living well it's like the question of like ruth bader ginsburg right there were people who said that she really should have stepped down way earlier than she did because obama could have appointed someone or else and then she died in office she did not seem like she was in great health towards the end and yet someone the powers that be said no no either she herself decided she didn't want to go to the power which maybe that's why biden won't step down or someone in the background was like, I need you to stay in office so I can continue to have whatever form of power I currently control. And I'm pretty sure they artificially extended her life to the extent of modern science.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Because she like disappeared for a while. And everyone's like, what's going on with her? And they probably hooked her up to a bunch of machines where they were like, technically she's alive. So you cannot replace her yet. And then finally the doctor's like, look look we've done everything we can this lady is not going to be alive anymore this is one of my favorite conspiracy theories people were like because i mean with the supreme court justices their their aides do write a lot of their opinions and do a lot of research and stuff like that so hypothetically like you had this staff that was
Starting point is 00:14:19 like she is fine thank you so much we're just going to sign her name to this thing for a long time and it was similar with diane feininstein, who, you know, got sick. You know, she even though she was in the hospital. No, it's crazy. And she was she was absent for so long that Republicans on her committee were like, we would like to replace her. Well, and it's not even an age issue. I mean, you had Secretary Lloyd Austin, you know, in the hospital. Nobody knew who was running the Pentagon at the time.
Starting point is 00:14:43 So this is we have some real problems where we don't know who's running the government. Well, we do. It's the deep state. It's a swamp. But it's this, you know, mirage of these supposed elected officials or these appointed officials. And that's where I think the American people are really looking into this. And they're realizing, like, who is in actual control? Because our borders open, our elections
Starting point is 00:15:05 a mess, we're about to enter World War III. Do we have a competent commander in chief who can lead us there? You know, it's not just the 13 service members who died in Afghanistan with that pullout, but remember the three Army Reserve soldiers died in Jordan. There's so much happening and Biden never recognized them appropriately in his State of the Union speech because he knows those will, you know, hurt him in an election. Yeah. Yeah. Biden, you know, I want to say he's the boss. That's that's the way I'll phrase it. He's the boss, but no one's in control. I don't think there's anyone telling Biden what to do. And I don't think there's anyone telling
Starting point is 00:15:38 his staff what to do. And I think the failures in Afghanistan and the fears of administration are proof that there's no one pulling the strings a lot of people like to think that obama is still living in dc telling biden what to do and biden's a puppet president i'm like no no no no if that were true there would be there would be cohesive strategy there would be things happening it's chaos because joe biden is president he is he doesn't remember things he misspeaks and the staff around him are all just looking at each other like what what did he just say? And they're not there's no there's no there's no cohesive plan. So everything's just chaos.
Starting point is 00:16:11 That's it. Well, if you look at Obama's apparatus is still in the White House. I mean, you had Susan Rice, who is the head of Domestic Policy Council up until May of last year. You have Antony Blinken, all these remnants from the Obama administration. So I think there is no leadership with with this administration and they're just taking advantage of it. But Biden, you know, it's not even an age issue. You see President Trump. He's in his late 70s.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And man, he has a lot of energy. Right. So, you know, I wouldn't even classify this going after him because of his age. You know, there's been I know people who are in their 90s who are all with it. But Joe Biden clearly isn't. Let's jump to this story. This is from the Post Millennial. Pathetic.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Lakin Riley's mom blasts Biden for butchering name of daughter killed by illegal immigrant gang member in State of the Union address. Biden does not even know my child's name. Now, here's the, here's the important thing. Democrats are furious right now over this.
Starting point is 00:17:05 They are furious over this, that Joe Biden would say illegal. No, no, I'm not kidding. Democrats are outraged that Joe Biden said killed by an illegal or killed by illegals. Yeah. You saw Nancy Pelosi. What did she say?
Starting point is 00:17:20 Oh yeah, she said she wishes he didn't use that term. I agree though. I completely agree with Nancy Pelosi. I am offended and I wish wishes he didn't use that term. I agree, though. I completely agree with Nancy Pelosi. I am I am offended and I wish Joe Biden did not use that. Did you see the reporter? I wish Joe Biden did not say illegal. He should have said criminal alien rapist and murderer. OK, stop protecting criminal aliens by calling them illegals. I hate that term. Like defining an immigrant as illegal makes
Starting point is 00:17:46 no sense i don't understand it makes no sense if someone is like shoplifting we don't call them an illegal shopper it doesn't make any an illegal shopper came by today no no what shoppers are fine it's the shop it's a shoplifter you know call him a uh a border breaker at the very least you know what i mean but i think rapist and murderer uh is fitting and you can put criminal alien alien in there so i agree with nancy pelosi yeah don't call him an illegal yeah the ap news ran this headline that was like biden says her name and then there's like a hyphen at lake and riley at the request of marjorie taylor green which i think is funny because they're trying to cover up the fact that he very clearly said lincoln yeah which you had one job right you
Starting point is 00:18:24 knew the entire country with her name on it i just don't understand i don't understand how we got here where you had one job you had all weeks months to prep for this this case happened you know a couple weeks ago it's fresh on everybody's mind you knew you're probably gonna have to reference this and you could not get this this person's name right let's play it let's play it lincoln lincoln riley an innocent young woman who was killed by an illegal by an illegal oh did you see benny johnson posted the guy asking biden the reporter do you regret using the word illegal to describe regrets and biden's like oh well i probably uh i don't regret uh i technically not supposed to be here it's i think i did justice to how he said it he's gonna filibuster his way
Starting point is 00:19:13 out of this by verbal slurs he wouldn't say he didn't regret it and he didn't say he regrets it but he did reinforce that they're not supposed to be here technically i don't know why he said technically what's he gonna do about it you know he's the one who gave them parole um the border the 10 million people have come across more like 15 million in the last three years i mean this is all on joe biden and i think this is what concerns me the state of the union address where so many americans just watch that and they're not keeping up with everything and they say oh maybe biden maybe the republicans are unreasonable that's maybe the takeaway that they're going to come out of that,
Starting point is 00:19:46 which is scary. So that's why Republicans have to keep dominating this message. And President Trump's been doing a very good job at it because, I mean, this, it's no longer, you know, it's not just the border states. I'm from Arizona and we see it,
Starting point is 00:19:58 you know, directly. But the burglaries that are happening with a lot of the affluent homes, but now you're seeing murders and rape of an innocent innocent girl who's just going to nursing school on college campuses right that's crazy on her college campus she went for a jog and the presumption is this guy jose ibarra was trying to rape her but when she fought back he bashed her face in to the point where he smashed her skull and i'm hearing hearing, I don't, I did not, I've been hearing this on Twitter that she was still alive when they found her.
Starting point is 00:20:27 She was unconscious, but she was declared dead at the scene. Wow. There was, there's also a charge of he's charged with preventing someone from making a 911 call. So there was an idea that perhaps she, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:40 he was chasing her or whatever. She tried to call the police and he, you know, took her cell phone or something. So it's, I mean, it's a really awful story and i remember the day that this came up that uga um uga had had a suicide on campus a couple days before so it was a weird headline initially like there's a second student found dead what's going on there and then within 24 hours the person had been identified and it's you know obviously hasn't been tried or anything but
Starting point is 00:21:02 it's believed to be this um illegal immigrant who's in the country who entered to cross the border in 2022 under the Biden administration. Like he was known to this government to be in this country illegally. He was also arrested in New York. And then he was arrested, obviously, after allegedly murdering Lake and Riley in Georgia. So it's something where along the way, several different forms of law enforcement failed, right? And Joe Biden doesn't even know her name. That's crazy to me.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And he like looks at the pen, Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln, Riley. Wow, there's leadership for you. He cares so much. He really cares. He cares about women, especially here on International Women's History or it's Women's History Month or whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Like it's so heartless. And again, this is what you see. International women's history or it's women's history month or whatever like it's it's so heartless and again this is international women's day it's international that was like last week i think but you know the thing is it's just it's so the biden administration to be like we're the party that cares about you and this other party they hate you and they hate the future now we don't want to talk about the service members that we put it today yeah it's the communist holiday. Well, yeah, it was Russian revolutionary communists who started it. And none of the men in the room wish me a happy woman's day.
Starting point is 00:22:12 You'll never get me there. And you're the most feminist one in this room. I think I don't want to speak for you. I'm old school feminist though, like second wave when it was just about equal opportunity. It's all horrible. It's where it begins and ends. No, but this is the Biden administration, right? They're like, we really, really care about women.
Starting point is 00:22:27 We care about our young people. Please join our military. Also, if you die because of us, we will never talk about you again. I'm anti all wave feminists. All of them. Anti? Yeah, I oppose all of it. But that means that you buy it.
Starting point is 00:22:41 What? If you found that you're anti it, that means you accept it. What does that mean? In order to oppose something, you have to accept its premise no you don't what what yeah otherwise it wouldn't bother you at all you'd be none wouldn't even be any of it opposing a thing that exists that has resulted in women getting civic privileges without civic responsibility is sure like it exists what does that mean concepts i acknowledge that the thing is a thing i think if you're if if a concept if you become anti a concept you're actually empowering the concept you're better to focus on that exists yeah you're better to focus on things that you like
Starting point is 00:23:14 that are different than that thing you want to not be there's like ian sitting in a room he's on fire and he's like as long as i don't say i'm on fire i'll be fine the fire can't wait concepts like feminism the idea is so what happened with feminism was uh the initial argument turn of the century was civic responsibility uh in exchange for equal civic access and the women said no and then a bunch of weak men said how about we give women all of the privileges and other responsibilities and they went you got it i oppose that i think women should have the right to vote. I think women should work. But along with civic privileges and access comes civic responsibility. Meaning so long as men have to enlist for the draft,
Starting point is 00:23:52 women should have the choice. You want access to the vote. You want jobs. You want all that stuff. You got to do the exact same thing as everybody else. Otherwise, that's why I'm like, you know what? Fine, screw it. Bring on the Equal Rights Amendment.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Let's make it enshrined in the Constitution that there cannot be legal distinction between males and females. And then every single woman. This is why they don't pass the ERA, by the way, because it would mean that women have to sign up for the draft and they don't want to do it. For sure. I don't want to be drafted at all. I also don't like the ERA because, and this is a Phyllis Schlafly argument that I covered last year when I was writing profiles for Women's History Month. As she pointed out, it doesn't make men and women equal. It abolishes the concept of the differences between the gender.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I don't want to live in a genderless world. I think genders are different. We see this from the minute babies are born. They show preferences for different things from less than 24 hours old. So why would we pretend otherwise? Genders are good. They can be complementary, but they definitely exist. Happy International Women's Day to you yeah so i don't i don't see uh what would your argument
Starting point is 00:24:50 for feminism be in you think that it's okay for one class of people to be given privileges no response privileges with no responsibility or would you agree with me that women should bear equal responsibility to their nation in exchange for equal access and privilege well equal rights doesn't mean you have to do the same thing as the other person so like the right to vote doesn't mean that we all have to go fight in war i don't think um but civic responsibility yeah like the women during the world war ii we can agree there so then the should men no longer have to enlist in the selective service sign up for it they should i don't like drafts but no i don't think so stop you would agree then that there is a problem with feminism thus far,
Starting point is 00:25:26 and the remedy would either be women must sign up for the draft or men must have no responsibility, no longer have to sign up for the draft. No, I don't think military draft is a delineation for men and women in feminism. I don't think women should have to get drafted into the military. What's the equivalent of getting drafted to the military? The equivalent? Like you were saying, they don't have to do the exact same thing. Getting impregnated and going through nine months of hell
Starting point is 00:25:48 with that, carrying that thing around. Yeah, I don't know. That's a really weird way to describe what many people call heavenly and beauty. the amount of pain that you suffer giving pregnant, giving birth.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I would imagine that that's about as traumatic for the female. Yeah. But also, it's also awesome apparently. So you're arguing that every woman at 18 should be forced impregnated by the government? No, I did government no i did not argue okay well then then what's your point women only get their right to vote when they have a baby which i think is an interesting try let's go ian
Starting point is 00:26:15 ian is like bumping up the birthright over here i love it no you either have to join the military or get pregnant and men can't get pregnant so that's only like what's a good version of compulsory service that a woman could experience. They don't have to do the same thing to get the right to vote. They should all have a responsibility to their country. I'm just wondering what the equivalent to entering the draft would be for women. And if you're saying you have a baby, I mean, why do you think it's acceptable that in our country, the government would say we grant extra privileges to one class of people
Starting point is 00:26:46 based on their biological sex. Like that, that seems antithetical to what the actual argument of feminism is. So if the reason why I say I oppose all of the waves of feminism is because in terms of a philosophy on the surface, the Mott and Bailey would be, oh, we just want equality for women. And then I respond with, okay, so women should be drafted. No, no. And then women recoil instantly and say no to that. Because feminism in practice is not equality. It's privileges.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Of course, only an insane person would argue for a true equality. Everyone's going to argue for privileges all the time. Why would you say you are in favor of the government creating special classes of people who get extra benefits without responsibility well i don't think that they should have ever not had the right to vote maybe i don't know if ever is the right word but that they didn't have the right to vote in 1840 is insane so the issue going back we go back in time the issue of the voting actually is really simple. Do you live here? Yes or no?
Starting point is 00:27:46 You don't? Okay, well, then you can't vote on what we're doing. When the towns are very small, it's like 100 people. You're voting on like, should we all come together and put a new road here? Do you live here? You do? Okay, what do you think? You don't live here?
Starting point is 00:27:58 Well, then you have, why are you telling us what we should do with our road? And so then it comes to the point of, should women vote? Well, it's like, well, the women aren't the ones who are building the roads and going and fighting to defend them. So it's just, the guys are going to decide whether or not they want a road where they're going to be working. And then we come to this, this, this change with the industrial revolution. And we're like, you know, women don't, we're, we're no longer in an era where one, people are all landowners. Some people are renters now. Some people live with someone else and they should have a say in their community because they do live there and they've lived there for their
Starting point is 00:28:25 whole lives. And not every woman is with a man and some women are working. So we recognize, okay, women should be allowed to vote. I completely agree. Women should be allowed to work. Completely agree. And with that comes the same responsibilities of any other human being in civilization, fire brigade, law enforcement, military, compulsory military service but instead of actually and that was the argument initially the initial argument with suffrage was sure one can have the right to vote and they'll get drafted and then the anti-suffragettes were like we don't want to be in the fire brigade and we don't we do not want to go fight in wars so we will happily sit back and then a bunch of weak men were like hey if we tell the women we'll give them the right to vote
Starting point is 00:29:03 they'll vote for us there you go now you have women in this country don't have to be drafted but get all of the privileges with with you know being a full-fledged member i think that's wrong i think that's that's anti-feminist i think that's opposing the general ideology of uh of uh equality um so you prefer to draft women and women can can work in in uh many different ways in the military you know i'm not even saying combat pregnant women of course they can what about women with small children at home yes they can you would draft them yeah 100 what would the kids do where the kids go so so you know that there are people in the military right now who have kids where the kids go and daycare so you'd send families, children to daycare.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Who'd pay for the daycare? The government, the military. You're going to expand government pay services to draft women into service and send their kids off to daycare? When the draft is called upon because of a legitimate threat to this country, because my ideology is not predicated upon corrupt people sending people to foreign wars for profit. That's BS. No. I'm talking about. Sure. And we're talking about turn of the century we're talking about world war one world war two
Starting point is 00:30:08 which could arguably say we should not have been involved in but if you were to conscript women it could be like we need you to work in a factory producing uh materials and refining while your kids go off to daycare welcome to war my friend when bombs are being dropped on your houses then by then by all means i am not going to sit here and listen to someone tell me that i have to die for them and they do not have welcome to being a man dude you protect your women and children that's how it is and guess what the people who don't go to war don't tell me what to do how about this how many members of congress have proposed a bill that if you want to fund a war you have have to go fight in it. I love that idea, personally.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Absolutely. So why am I going to say you don't have to go fight in the war, but you can certainly tell me how I have to fight and when I have to die. Well, you're just saying how pro-draft you are. But now you're saying you're anti-draft. No, no, no. I'm saying why would someone who is not in the military get the right to tell me to die for them?
Starting point is 00:31:03 By force. By compulsion of the U.S. law enforcement coming and threatening to take away my freedom. And there's a whole class of people, half the country, more than half, who get to vote to send me to die. And they have no responsibility. Now, of course, the responsibility was
Starting point is 00:31:17 they're going to have families and raise kids, but that's not what's happening. So there is an imbalance in equality. Anyway, we can move on to a different subject. Are you going to draft women? Do you want to talk about this? Well, I think we can, you know, if you look at what's happening right now, women are under attack. But ironically, it's by this the liberal Marxists who are transforming, you know, if women try to compete in sports, they have to compete with men. You know, it's very bizarre, this idea that women and men have the same biology so that they
Starting point is 00:31:46 can compete in the same sports but i i'm looking i'm really if you see what's going on i just saw riley gaines interview too i mean it's a it's so tragic that the feminist movement that you're talking about how it's been transformed i think it's actually going against women and oh it is it's it's erasing feminism right and so. And so what purpose is it serving right now? So I feel as if women right now are being under attack by these liberal Marxists who are trying to basically make everybody equal. And now they're actually propping up this other class of transgenders who are now competing in sports. So I've never talked more about transgenders ever in my life except the last three years. And I think that's purposeful. The Marxists are trying to win this this war on our minds right now where they're trying to erase
Starting point is 00:32:34 the gender, what gender actually is. Let's talk about the alternative, the alternative to Joe Biden that we have coming up in November. And I give you this. Yashir Ali says Trump just posted this video on his official Instagram. My friends, you have to watch this video. We're going to buy American. We're going to buy American. So trade rules. Buy America has been the law since 1933. Also caps and won't go into effect until 2025 and by the way that law was written and the benefit expires in 2025 new electric grids that are able to weather major storms and not prevent the uh the chihuahua so for those that are just listening you have no idea what's going on but trump posted this video to his instagram
Starting point is 00:33:24 of snapchat filters it is an old state of the union it's from i think it's from last year So for those that are just listening, you have no idea what's going on. But Trump posted this video to his Instagram of Snapchat filters. It is an old State of the Union. It's from, I think it's from last year. You can see Kevin McCarthy sitting there. But it's absolutely hilarious. And Trump posted this on his Instagram. And there's like one clip where Joe Biden's head is a chihuahua, I guess. Is that what that is?
Starting point is 00:33:39 An aged chihuahua? An chihuahua-esque figure. I'm not really sure. Yeah. Yeah, I don't even know. I don't know if that's a Chihuahua. I think it is. But this is your alternative.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And I am for it. And we'll be supporting this man throughout the year for his re-election. And I think he's actually reaching a different audience, right? So many political consultants would say, you know, you can't do that type of stuff. But he's actually going after the younger voters who can relate to this and making politics. Politics has become cultural right now. And President Trump understands that he's doing a really effective job at reaching that audience. So, you know, I think it's hilarious. I think a lot of Americans do, too. What is this face? Do we know where this video came from? Like, did somebody else share it?
Starting point is 00:34:24 Someone else must have made it. The narrative that I have invented for It got on his face. Do we know where this video came from? Like, did somebody else share it? Someone else must have made it. The narrative that I have invented for myself based on nothing is that Baron is the one who did this and then sent it to his dad. Because that would be so funny. I was thinking that it felt like Don just is like, Grandpa got figured out Snapchat filters. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:34:38 And he's like doing five in a row. And you're like, all right, I get it. But it's an old video. Yeah. It's from last year. And it could have been someone else's video. They could have posted it up on YouTube and they're just like, look, this this is so funny do you guys think that the
Starting point is 00:34:47 cultural like you were just saying that politics has become cultural that it's either that that's an emergent thing just it's just part of the flow of nature because of internet or is it specifically being done on purpose i'm not sure but i actually think it's positive in some ways i mean so many people are engaging in politics whether they're on the left or on the right. You're seeing people like AOC who kind of rose from that type of populist on the left side of things, and you're seeing that on the same on the right. So I see it as good because there needs to be strong debate as long as you're actually allowed to debate. And that's what's scary that we're facing is that these people are attacking free speech and the so-called defenders of democracy are destroying our election.
Starting point is 00:35:30 So, you know, culture and politics, I think it's only going to intertwine even more. So you're starting to see celebrities run for politics like never before and athletes as well. So it's just become a part of daily life. You can't escape it. I mean, everybody talks about President Trump or President Biden, no matter where you go, whether you're even paying somewhat attention to politics, it's unescapable, unlike how
Starting point is 00:35:51 it used to be just 15 years ago. Yeah, I think the vision, the ideal for the founders is that it's like part of not everyone's daily life, but that maybe eventually it will come to the point where it's just a natural part of your life. Like you make lunch. You involve yourself with your local politics. You make dinner. You spend time with your family.
Starting point is 00:36:09 You keep an eye on what's going on state politically. I think that used to be the case when we were more civically minded as a nation. Right now it feels like it's all about capital P politics that happened on a federal level, that happened because it's an election year. But when people were more involved with just like local groups they volunteered more outside the homes they were more involved in their religious communities right like they had an impact on the community that wasn't necessarily uh affiliated with the political party although it had effectively in a political influence on their community right they had values they wanted to see them
Starting point is 00:36:43 uh carried out they maybe went to town meetings to ask for certain things, or they organized together to accomplish certain tasks. But we just drifted away from that as an American culture. And there are a couple of different reasons for that. But predominantly, one of the reasons is because we're deeply online now, we're not actually spending time, you know, going to school board meetings, we are, you know, much more likely to be reading about, again, national level politics as opposed to what's going on in our communities. But you lose that human connection, right? But I think you're exactly right when you talk about church attendance is, you know, record lows. And that's where people could have an impact on their community.
Starting point is 00:37:18 But now they're seeing the impact is online and, you know, voicing their opinion on social media. I mean, this is one of the things I don't want to necessarily delve back into the same argument we had before, but when you're talking about women having different civic responsibilities than men, when more women were at home, they were largely responsible for essentially the volunteer and philanthropic efforts of their communities. I think Indiana University has a whole study. I think it's uh indiana university has a whole study they've um i think it's their uh college of philanthropy i can't remember what it's called now but they've done a couple studies on this where women are typically the one who make the decisions about like how the money how families spend their money charitably like where they give
Starting point is 00:37:59 money to uh and again it's reflective of this part of culture that we sort of lost when we sent women into the workforce right like no one person can really accomplish all the things you need to to run a household we know i mean any working adult knows this like there's just always something you have to take care of and that was one of the reasons why a married family unit with a man and woman who have different interests but also different responsibilities work so well you can have a bigger impact on your community because it doesn't just fall on the shoulders of the individual you work as a team and to a certain extent when we gave up the um the normality of having women stay at home we sort of lost that aspect of culture yes thank you so much for agreeing with me on today of all days international women's day
Starting point is 00:38:43 and only because it's international women's day yeah tim doesn't agreeing with me on today of all days, International Women's Day. And only because it's International Women's Day. Yeah, Tim doesn't agree with me any other time. Well, I'll keep filibustering here until the show's over. No, just kidding. I just, I really think that like, this is the most interesting part of culture, which is that the family unit determines so much about who you become as an individual
Starting point is 00:39:00 and what happens to your community. And so when we don't have, like, I'm not even kidding. When kidding when you're like hey women should get the right to vote when they have a baby i'm like that doesn't sound half bad i mean sort of complicated what if you're in that's one of the that's a 20 right there for me and i didn't even roll it that's the best part it was a passive point last night when when biden was saying uh you know we're gonna encourage kids to we're gonna roll out additional uh preschool vouchers essentially like we're going to subsidize preschool even further and we really want to make sure kids can read by the third grade and tim and i looked at each other like third grade that's late like
Starting point is 00:39:33 what what are we doing here yeah kids should be reading i think it's like first grade is the average yeah but don't you learn how to read in kindergarten before that i don't i think it's changed since covid i mean the education system is totally i mean look i was i was homeschooled before i started grade school so i'm pretty sure i could read well before yeah sorry but he said we had uh the letter people did you guys ever watch that show every day every week we would have a different letter person would come in we'd learn the letters that was in kindergarten well biden when he was talking about it bring it back they bring these like blow up dolls of like these letters, the letter J. And it's the Mr. J for J is for jam.
Starting point is 00:40:10 We should look up the letter people. It's a great show. No, but one of the things Biden said during his study show, and I've seen the study before, that kids who are read to at home enter kindergarten speaking, you know, a million more, saying a million more letters than what is happening this is it? this is what we got to show on Saturday morning and I just happen to have a nice one right here
Starting point is 00:40:34 probably sounds like Mr. J jumbled junk jar starts with the same sound that starts jumbled junk oh that sound makes me want to jump for joy it's a jolly sound all right this is why ian's so messed up isn't it by messed up yeah man we wouldn't really watch these shows as much as she would bring out like the j
Starting point is 00:41:00 it was like a guy and she would set them down and then we'd learn all about the letter j for the day and it was pretty cool oh yeah so i must not have known how to read before that if I was learning the letters what grade was that kindergarten hmm we had um every letter capital and lowercase on the top of the room and uh yeah I don't know that's helpful in order and you just stare at them all in order and curse I think actually we had denelian. Do you guys know what that is? No. I don't even know what that is, but I learned it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:27 What is it? It was a way to write letters. Yeah, it was like a mix between cursive and straight typing. I learned it in California high school as well, or California high school, in kindergarten there as well. What? Yeah. Denelian.
Starting point is 00:41:38 It's a real thing. Yeah. Denelian. There you go. It's denelian. That's what we learned. Oh. Based on Latin, which was developed by Donald. Teaching fonts how fun i i don't even know i don't understand like aren't these just like the
Starting point is 00:41:52 same thing i'm not really sure but the i yeah we did this oh i know those denelian letters i guess it's how you learn cursive it's a precursor to cursive yeah it's a denelian cursive writing is that what it is i don't know well that's fun it's just printing at an angle do kids do kids learn cursive today no oh really they i i uh my younger sisters are younger than me and i know that they're not learning cursive in school do they learn how to write they can write but it is interesting how many kids are online all the time or like you know post when when school started going back after uh the pandemic a lot of them came home with like ipads or whatever and it was like there are no more snow days because either we're planning to be out because of a covid lockdown or if we get snow
Starting point is 00:42:35 and either way you just do work on your tablet which really feels like it's ruining a part of culture i will i will say this you know what what stats are 1 through 20 right yeah my writing is a is a 2 a dnd stats is a 3 3 through 18 really so like i can type real fast and real well and it was really funny because i've never been good at writing like i can make i can write but it looks like the spongebob meme oh yeah we're like capitals and lowercase and i don't even realize i'm doing it i don't know why because i just yeah. Where like capitals and lowercase. And I don't even realize I'm doing it. I don't know why. Because it just doesn't matter to me.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Capital, lowercase, whatever. So I wonder what that is. You could get like a handwriting expert to give you like a psychological breakdown based on your handwriting. Like, well, you must feel this way about this aspect of your life if your B's are written like that. I just put random capital letters and lowercase. That's awesome. Because it must mean something. Some sort of emphasis or something?
Starting point is 00:43:25 When I type, I type just fine. I saw some video of a teacher saying she had to practice writing differently when she was writing on the whiteboard for her elementary school students because on her own she makes all of the letters the same size, whether they're capital or lowercase,
Starting point is 00:43:41 but you have to distinguish them for young students who are learning the difference. That's this right here. So this, like what we did, see the dotted line in the middle? That's how you did. The lowercase letters are underneath it and the uppercase go over it.
Starting point is 00:43:53 So they're not teaching this in school anymore? I don't know. I don't know that they ever actually taught Danilian in like... No, not for me. Yeah, not common at all. I hated cursive. They made us write cursive
Starting point is 00:44:04 and then we would do a third, fourth grade and they they're like you have to write this stuff in cursive so one day i just printed it instead and they didn't say anything they didn't give me an f they didn't they took it they read it so i was like wow they tell me you have to write in cursive but i guess you don't yeah but those girls who stuck with cursive are now making bank like addressing envelopes for weddings and stuff like that they've got beautiful handwriting they have a whole like how do kids what are our kids are writing but they're not doing cursive how are they gonna get signatures are they just gonna scribble i don't even think they're writing that much anymore i think it's really gone to uh ipads and computers so i you're probably gonna see the penmanship go way down and i'm like you my handwriting is i'm a lawyer it was awful i could
Starting point is 00:44:43 never even read my own handwriting so i'll worry about this next uh but this is the thing look we are uh how old are you abe 32 32 and uh that would make ian the oldest i'd be second oldest and then who's older between the two of you so all of us even you know hannah claire you know this because you have younger siblings is that you're saying but i didn't even be i didn't even realize kids aren't learning to write the same way imagine what happened so we write all this sci-fi dystopian stuff and we're like oh the ai people are gonna plug in and they're gonna be carrots and they're gonna do weird things it's worse than that there's gonna be an emp and all of like gen z and under gen z will be the last writing generation so you're gonna have a bunch of 17 year olds being like how do i share my thoughts it's like write it down here's a pen and paper
Starting point is 00:45:28 like they can't do it think about and then it's like the world's gonna end there's gonna be an emp gen z will be in their 50s and they'll be like the lost art form of writing with a pen no one does it or the one that gets me is memorizing phone numbers. Like I remember memorizing people's phone numbers because I didn't have a phone. And also like if you're wherever you need your friend's phone number,
Starting point is 00:45:53 your parent's phone number, whatever, like lots of kids get cell phones so early that they, and you think adults too, like I don't know that I could, I couldn't tell you anyone in this room's phone number. I don't think I'd tell you
Starting point is 00:46:02 my best friend's phone number because their name is in my phone. But I can tell you anyone in this room's phone number. I don't think I'd tell you my best friend's phone number. Because your name is in my phone. But I can tell you my home phone number from when I was a kid. Yeah, me too. I can tell you my best friend's phone numbers from when I was a kid. I can remember probably a decent amount of them, actually. Yeah. Back before area codes.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Did you guys have area codes the whole time? Yeah, but we had 312 for a while, and then they introduced 773 when I was real little. We didn't have area codes? Did you guys have area codes the whole time? Yeah, but we had 312 for a while and then they introduced 773 when I was real little. We didn't have area codes. We just had seven digit phone numbers. Well, no, you didn't. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:46:33 The area code was given. It was only 330. Right, so Ian, what this means is when you are in an area code, you don't need to add the area code. Correct. It was the four longest before digital phones and all no no no so
Starting point is 00:46:45 before in the 90s in the early 90s i believe chicago had just 312 and then they introduced a second one 773 and then all of a sudden now we had to know if we were 312 or 773 the suburbs were 708 and the western suburbs i think uh northwest suburbs uh actually i think a lot i don't know it's 847 but i think that might go down to uh a little southwest as well did you have to dial them in or was it just given in your we didn't dial area codes in the beginning yes you did no we didn't at our house we would just dial nine two three that means you were in the area code in yeah or you have to dial a long distance to get out of the area your phone number is seven seven three one two three four five six seven and you're calling someone else in 773,
Starting point is 00:47:26 you don't need to put an area code. Correct. When they add an area code splitting you into two different places, you now need the area code for the other region. But now, in that same area, if I call the next door neighbor, I have to dial their area code to get to their house because that's just the way phones are now. You have 10 digits instead of 7.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I don't think that's correct. You don't. If they have the same area code as you, you don't have to are you i've never tried it with my phone i've got a on my cell phone i've got a three i'll tell you my area code three two three it's an la area code are you saying that if i call other people in la with three two three codes i just only need to enter seven numbers correct yeah really i've never tried that that's how it's always been and i'm pretty sure that's true because uh there are still parts of this country that do not include the area codes on their stores. And like area codes are weird now because I got this 323 number while I was living in
Starting point is 00:48:08 like New York. I just got an LA area code because I like it. Because you can choose whatever one you want. Yeah. And there are people who intentionally get area codes to seem important. Yeah. So they'll go in the back. I want a Beverly Hills, California.
Starting point is 00:48:20 And they'll say, okay, what are LA's? We got 818. That's like Long Beach. Right. 323. 323. 213. 213. That's like Long Beach. Right. 323. 323. 213. Yep, yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Is there a seven? How do you guys know this? I don't even know any phone numbers. I live in LA. I have a, I actually, I'm not going to, I actually, I'll say this. I'm not going to give them my area code because I don't want people to find out. But it's a rural middle of nowhere area code on purpose. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Yeah. Yeah, I got mine as kind of a vanity area code. I was like, I want to have some L.A. it's a rural middle of nowhere area code on purpose oh nice yeah i got mine it's kind of a vanity area code i was like i wanted to have some la in me for the rest of my life when i was getting when i was getting my phone they were like and what and they wanted the area code here and i was like no no no and then i was like i pulled up maps and i looked and i was like middle of nowhere and so to anyway what you're saying i used to memorize phone numbers too yeah memorization so what's gonna happen with neural people going to, when they read now on the internet, like we still open up a computer screen, we read words. We have to learn the words and the letters and read.
Starting point is 00:49:11 But are you just going to get the information and you're not actually going to have to read it? You're just going to learn what the meaning is? But doesn't that take something out of it if you just get to put in your head versus having to critically analyze it and memorize it? Yeah, we're becoming the board. It takes language out of it or it's a new form of language if there's no letters heavy then there would be no reading and then the people literally would not have to
Starting point is 00:49:32 learn how to read in order to receive data and then if the power goes out yep we got a bunch of illiterate yeah hominids well it's like idiocracy have you guys seen that movie yeah it's basically a documentary that we're no No, I think Idiocracy got it way wrong. Why is that? Because- Not everyone wears Crocs now. Yeah. Crocs are cool.
Starting point is 00:49:52 What's happening right now is that liberals are aborting their kids and sterilizing their kids. And so if you were- So the premise of the film is the stupidest people tend to reproduce the most and the smart people don't. But that ignores political ideologies and so even at the time when mike judge made idiocracy you could have calculated that either islam or christianity would dominate within 500 years because it is part of their fundamental religious beliefs to have to have children
Starting point is 00:50:18 and to proselytize so i think idiocracy doesn't work as a it makes sense to liberals because they live a bubble and so when i was younger i was like oh wow that's that that's really funny now that i'm older i'm watching what's going on i'm like oh liberals are self-destructive conservatives have more kids and this data was it was this data was out in studies in the 2000s so you easily could have made a movie where it's called like christiocracy and it's a guy who's in the military who gets frozen when he comes back out the country is the 1950s all over again and it's like there was a period of tumult where a bunch of weirdo liberal lunatics were doing crazy things but they all sterilized themselves and had wild sex parties and then after 20 years they were gone that. That's it. It's possible.
Starting point is 00:51:05 That's my prediction for the next 500 years. I'd love to see that movie. Let's jump to this next story, actually, because this brings together. From the Postmillennial, Biden calls to ban AI voice impersonations in State of the Union after getting humiliated by post-so-pre-creation memes. Is that what did it, Jack? That's funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Did Jack write that story? Yeah. So here's, I'll play this one. This is a fake video. The illegal Russian offensive has been swift, callous, and brutal. It's barbaric. Putin's illegal occupation of Kyiv and the impending Chinese blockade of Taiwan has created a two-front national security crisis that requires more troops than the
Starting point is 00:51:42 volunteer military can supply. I have received guidance from General Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, national security crisis that requires more troops than the volunteer military can supply. I have received guidance from General Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, that the recommended way forward will be to invoke the Selective Service Act, as is my authority as president. So that that is something made by Jack is clearly not real. But I do think it's funny that we ended up at the during the State of Union, Biden saying a call to ban AI voice impersonations because it came out of nowhere. But you can't do anything about it. I suppose.
Starting point is 00:52:10 You can make it illegal. The problem is. How do you how do you differentiate intent? I mean, we've done this on the show several times with AI voice impersonation, but you can blend voices you can take a recording of jordan peterson and joe rogan and then put them next to each other and load them into an ai app and it will create a combination of the two voices into one so what happens if like you make a voice that's 98 joe rogan and you say it's an artistic voice for my media project is it when you claim the person is who you know if you say this voice is ian crossland that makes it
Starting point is 00:52:46 illegal maybe that's a good way to go impersonation if it becomes a form of impersonation but like you said someone called somebody and it sounded like it was their daughter and asked for like help or something and the woman acquiesced i don't know the story yeah that was in arizona a mom she uh got a call from what she thought was her daughter and that she was being held. And so they want to ransom. And, you know, that's I think there's been a lot of calls now because of the AI voice manipulations where it has the potential to do a lot of damage to some folks, especially people who don't know all the technology and they hear their daughter speaking. I mean, why would you second guess that? So, I mean, AI is really, it's getting scary because you saw that, I mean, this can almost start wars, right? I mean, if you're declaring war on a country, how would they know?
Starting point is 00:53:33 It reminds me back in the 80s. I don't know if you remember Ronald Reagan at the time, there was like a blooper almost, it was broadcast and it shouldn't have been where he was calling to like, you know, bomb the Russians and it almost caused a nuclear war because of that so i mean ai is very very scary um so i don't know what type of federal limitations or government it's me tucker carlson clearly calling to let you know your based situations like that from happening where a daughter is someone's pretending
Starting point is 00:54:00 to be their daughter you didn't have your headphones on while yeah while we uh tucker carlson was just just complimenting me while you were in the middle of explaining. Hey, Ian, it's me, Tucker Carlson. I'm just calling to let you know you're based AF. Dude, if I heard that voicemail, I would be like, that's probably Tucker. That is not Tucker Carlson. That is just an online app.
Starting point is 00:54:17 It's so easy to do. I can type. It's nuts. I can type in anything. I got Jordan Peterson. The Jordan one's really good, too. The Joe Rogan one's pretty good. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:54:26 The Biden one's not good because you can't capture his dementia. Is it officially dementia? Is it okay to say that out loud? I mean, his doctor says he's fine. So you're wrong. It's not dementia. The White House doctor says so.
Starting point is 00:54:37 He would never lie to you. He didn't even need to be tested. He was so healthy. He was so healthy. Okay. So confirmed healthy. Hey, Ian, it's me jordan peterson i'm just calling to let you know you need to eat beef eat like a lot of beef okay okay jordan
Starting point is 00:54:53 would that convince you nutritionist what if you say dr peterson i guess i'll start eating beef i'm on board i can literally type in anything into this into this app right now and instantly have anyone. It's nuts. So what do you think? Should there be limitations on it? How? What do you do?
Starting point is 00:55:10 Right. What do you do? I think making impersonation, keeping impersonation illegal. Free speech. Jack Posobiec made a piece of artwork. He is allowed to do that. He was, and what he did, it says it's a, what artwork he is allowed to do that he was and and and what he did it says it's a what did he call it a predictive sneak preview and he's making a point about
Starting point is 00:55:32 it's it's it's a point about what the biden administration is capable of doing and the direction that we're heading should the the warmongers in the united states drive us towards war and so to make a video like that to make that point i think maybe it's it's it's a responsibility to say like hey guys this is a fake video i'm doing this to make a point yeah because it's like you can use a car and drive it off the road and destroy a bunch of property and that's illegal you can't that's an illegal way to use a car or you can just use a car normal same with ai same with voice with this kind of stuff you can't ban it you can't ban it it's not possible it's not you can't stop it you can you can ban it but you can't stop this you can't ban it because what's gonna happen if they ban it and
Starting point is 00:56:10 they say it's illegal then every time someone hears a voice they're not gonna guess they're not gonna question is this real or not they're just gonna assume it's real you can't even you can't even ban it so long as any human being can do an impersonation right you cannot ban ai i'm curious when you because you're campaigning right now, is this something you guys have to talk about and like mitigate risk for that someone will potentially copy your voice or use AI technology to warp something that you're,
Starting point is 00:56:34 you know, an ad that you're giving to your constituents or something like that? I think it's very possible. But I think what Tim was saying that, you know, it's even without AI people, there's always been impersonators and there's been really effective impersonators of Donald Trump. And I don't see it being stopped. So I don't know why Biden talked
Starting point is 00:56:52 about the State of the Union. Although I do see it as a problem, how do we try to remedy that problem? But as a candidate, yeah, I'm going to guess that there's going to be, especially the rate of technology changing so quickly, there's gonna be a lot of deep fakes. I think I just saw, was it in California? I don't know if you saw this, but there's these students who were just suspended because they put other students' faces on AI-generated images showing them naked. Whoa. Yeah, so they suspended these kids, you know, by saying, oh, they're sending, you know, naked selfies or whatever. They weren't.
Starting point is 00:57:24 They were just AI-generated. So, you know, there is a lot of problems with this especially when it goes to the pedophilia um level but but like that's the obvious you know direction but imagine what's going to happen with with read write um neural link technology all but let's let's not even go there how about this you will be in in a class a campus, and someone's going to take your picture off Facebook. They're going to load four or five of your pictures from Instagram into an app. They're going to put on VR headsets, and they're going to have virtual sex with you. Gross. It's like we're talking about porn and how they can take any woman.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Luckily, it'll be women. Guys are going to be doing this to women. Women will do it to guys too but mostly guys and it's it's the vr stuff too they will make virtual environments not only that with gpt ladies here's what's gonna happen there will be a guy on your campus and he's gonna buy the apple vision pro we got sent right there maybe not apple vision because it's gonna be really restrictive. Oculus is probably more likely. And they're going to upload an app where they create a digital version of you. They program
Starting point is 00:58:32 the GPT personality based off all of your social media posts to emulate your behavior. And they will have a virtual slave version of you that they use to get off. That's so gross. And there's nothing you can do about it. What are you going to do? Live and let live. No off that's so gross and there's nothing you can do about it what are you gonna do live and let live no that's gross and weird i know but what can you do about it
Starting point is 00:58:51 you know people's fantasies are their own just creating many simulations it seems like that so they're talking about like impersonation and like people creating obviously people can draw pictures of you and have them on their walls they're allowed to do that and people can even like a comedian because the idea of impersonating someone like a comedian on stage being like making a voice and sounding like a guy you're technically you're impersonating but this this crime of false personification this is like a technically a federal can become a federal offense when you when you uh are representing yourself as someone who you aren't that's when i think things can, should become illegal when it comes to this stuff, I think.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Well, what Tim's describing is like, number one, seems definitely like stalking to me. And it also is like non-consensual creation of pornography, right? Like if someone were to take your face and put it into pornographic stuff that you don't want, maybe they're just- You can't do anything about it. You can't do anything about it,
Starting point is 00:59:44 but maybe they're watching it for themselves maybe they're posting online like it's a huge violation even though it just seems like oh whatever it's creepy they'll put you in they'll put you in and they'll make make the eye color brown instead of blue and shorten the nose a little bit bank now i'm now i'm not in trouble and there'll be a market where they'll be selling your app of you and like a black market kind of thing and like you need some sort did you guys did you guys that you don't want to be part of and normally have a recourse like a governmental recourse we can appeal to when that kind of thing happens like protect my persona did you guys know that i pay taxes to facebook messenger you open a facebook
Starting point is 01:00:16 messenger and you go to create new chat ai chat is an option and this is the weirdest thing uh snoop dog's in here called dungeon master mr beast is in here called zach uh is that tom brady confident sports debater i don't know who half these people are uh some of them are just weird alien characters but those are those are some of the ones i recognize so far there's someone who's an athlete you know i opened this up because i i saw someone posted online i think it was a little bit of tiktok that the facebook ai i was like facebook ai and then i looked it up and it's just in the app and then i opened it and i'm like mr beast yeah wait so you're messaging an ai
Starting point is 01:00:57 version of it's an ai called zach but it's mr beast yeah i think it's mr beast's picture i think they got his license licensed his likeness and personality and then they put it into these these avatars called or whatever put his picture in an ai generator and said oh it's a whole new image it's a totally different person but i think in this instance they did pay these guys i could be wrong about this i i people want to just converse with a fake so i opened dungeon master i said why do you look like snoop it said i'm dungeon master not snoop dog but if you want me to guide you through a fantasy world filled with magic and adventure follow me yo it's it's snoop dog that's snoop they probably paid him for that i have to imagine
Starting point is 01:01:34 they did yeah big money because you because i'm like why is mr beast in here and i'm sure these other these other people who are in here too are personalities don't know who they are i mean how accurate is it i mean it's a picture of mr yeah but the conversation no it's a it's a random ai i'm zach your big brother here to make jokes they gotta do snoop beast and mr dog by the way i bet it's it's kind of not mr beast but you can tell it's mr beast yeah yeah yeah yeah it's supposed to be mr beast but you can tell it's slightly different right it's very close if it looks exactly it looks exactly like mr beast the same mannerisms that's so weird i wish i could ask him i think they got paid uh for their likenesses so i want to google it what's it called a meta ai meta
Starting point is 01:02:18 i said why do you look like mr beast and he starts shaking his head well it's like it's really transforming he says i don't look i said i don't look like Mr. Beast? And he starts shaking his head. Well, it's really transforming reality. He says, I don't look like Mr. Beast. I'm Zach. I'm the one with the jokes, not the one with the billions. That's so crazy. So trying to differentiate it. Kendall Jenner's on there, apparently.
Starting point is 01:02:35 AI alter egos. Yeah, I was reading about this. This is crazy. Oh, I hate this. This is from last October, I guess, is when this started getting hot. Hey, Ian. It's me, Jordan Peterson. I hear you.
Starting point is 01:02:43 I'm just calling to let you know you need to clean your room. Clean your room, Ian. No. Clean your Hey, Ian. It's me, Jordan Peterson. I hear you. I'm just calling to let you know you need to clean your room. Clean your room, Ian. No. Clean your room, Ian. Okay. It just seems like with this alter ego thing,
Starting point is 01:02:52 they're trying to make it so people will stop seeking out other people to talk to. They're like, not only is it like, oh, you're talking to someone online who may or may not be real,
Starting point is 01:03:00 may or may not be catfishing you. Now it's like, oh, they're definitely not real. And in fact, just build a relationship with them instead of someone, you know, that you work with, or someone you know, or, you know, going outside. I don't like it at all. Yeah, no, they announced this. Meta just created a Snoop Dogg AI for your next RPGs.
Starting point is 01:03:16 That's funny. They must have paid him. It's Snoop Dogg. They paid him. Yeah. That's so weird, and there's there's mr beast kendall jenner does oh it says it says mr beast zach the funny man wow meta chose mr beast's ai generated funny man that's so so we don't know what reality is anymore you know and that's where you even look at like dating apps i mean do you know if the person that you're swiping
Starting point is 01:03:40 right or left on is actually real you don't know anything about them you're meeting them on the internet if it's even someone if it's someone at all i know who defines reality it's it's over man it's it's creepy i remember and we said this every time we talk about ai we bring this up but it was like mid 2022 and i i was using um uh stable diffusion to make ai images and they were grotesque and didn't really work. Nancy Pelosi looked like a weird caricature of Nancy Pelosi. And today you type into mid journey or stable diffusion three, which is crazy. Nancy Pelosi shaking hands with Donald Trump, getty images and it perfect. You wouldn't, you couldn't even tell it's fake. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:04:23 We're there. What is it going to be're there what is it gonna be like what is life gonna be like in a year yeah maybe the singularity just i was down there i was getting ready for work and i was like computer tell me about the web i was like gonna ask the machine all these questions about like who's the guest tonight on tonight's show what's he what's his background like i wanted to ask the machine all these questions it was the first time i've ever had that the impulse go that far like i was on the star trek uh holodeck or something talking to the machine and maybe that's where we're headed and you know why would we trust
Starting point is 01:04:53 that output right and that's that's what's becoming really creepy about this it's we're losing that human connection that human touch that's what makes us human so and didn't people like do this to alexa one time well they'll it questions, and it gives you kind of warped or biased answers. Well, GPT, a bunch of lawyers are getting caught for asking ChatGPT to write up its arguments for them, and it creates fake citations. It's hilarious. And they're getting caught like, hey, this is fake. You used ChatGPT, didn't you? And they're like, uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:05:21 And why is it using a fake citation to cut out? Because it doesn't know the real citation like oh and why is it going why is it using a fake citation to because it doesn't know the real citation so then why is it creating a facsimile of what an argument looks like so the argument will the the ai looks at a legal argument and it says john v us at all blah blah and then it's just like something like that so it makes random words and makes it look like it's a case the the it's not the ai right now that we're talking about with predictive it's predictive text it's not actually an intelligent being that says let me analyze a legal case in a similar area and then come back to this one like a human would do it's just going what's the next word i should write this paper and so based here's how here's how chat gpt and all these other ones work. You say, write me a fairy tale.
Starting point is 01:06:07 It scours the internet for fairy tale, fairy tale, fairy tale story, fairy tale, write me a fairy tale. And then what it says is, what is the highest probability for a word to start a fairy tale? Once. Yeah. And then? Upon. Time. That's it. that's exactly how it works and so it's going 99.999999 accuracy once the next word and then in a 9.9 accuracy uh but creating citations right i mean that's like a source why would they because it's creating words not legal
Starting point is 01:06:41 arguments all it's doing is saying what word is most likely to come after this word and so when you have a citation it's not actually making a legal argument it's just putting words on paper the the large language models don't know arguments exist all it knows is a plus b equals c so when it looks at a legal document and it sees on average, every so often there's a parentheses and then a name via name, it just will auto generate random things. Interesting. Yep. And they're getting caught doing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Because when the judges are like, let me look up the citation, they're like, that's not real. And then they end up finding out this whole thing's fake. And they're like, did you use chat GPT to write your argument for you? And they're like, maybe. Who knows? Yeah, maybe. Will I get in trouble if i did yes but it's the future imagine where we're going to be in a year when it actually can properly cite and then you're going to have two people file a lawsuit and the judge is going to go what is your claim claim, sir? And it's like, this man owes me $500 because I painted his fence and he told me to pay $500. The other guy goes, no, he painted the wrong color.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I can't pay a guy who did the wrong thing. And then he's going to be like, okay, he's going to type it in, press enter. And then the computer is going to go, and then they're going to be like, okay, does anybody want to read the arguments? No? Okay. Final termination to the plaintiff. Plaintiff wins. gonna go that's it no thanks imagine how fast we're gonna go through criminal and and civil trial now now let me ask you this an ai is found within three years to call uh judgments in criminal cases with 99.9% accuracy. People who are innocent are found not guilty.
Starting point is 01:08:27 People who are guilty are found guilty. And then you go to court and the judge says, you can plead guilty, not guilty or to the machine. If you plead to the machine, your court case ends today. No lawyers required, no long continuances. And it's your choice. You can say, I'd rather not do that. And we can go through the normal process.
Starting point is 01:08:48 So you're a regular person. You have all the evidence and you say, give me the AI because I've got the evidence right now. And it just goes, not guilty. You can go home. And then the court's like, okay, there it is. Well, I think that goes against the foundations of our country where you have a jury of your peers. No, but you had a choice. You can choose a judge.
Starting point is 01:09:09 You can choose a bench trial. So it's really about having the right to the right to a jury trial. But many people choose bench trials because they think the judge will have better judgment. And that is often correct. There was one guy who got acquitted in J6. He went for a bench trial. Judge said, yeah, cop waved you in. Free to go.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Acquitted. Crazy. Well well would you choose the ai no no no well i don't think so but i would hope that you would use the ai in conjunction with human uh authorization at least for a while like as an advisor kind of the ai gives you its output of arguments and then the jury has an opportunity to look at the the ai's arguments in addition to the what if or you could have an ai as your lawyer submit your arguments for you. What if. Fake citations.
Starting point is 01:09:49 It's. Chalk. There will be a trial, but it'll be AI prosecution, AI defense, AI jury. AI. Human judge. Victim. Human judge. Oh.
Starting point is 01:10:00 And so what would happen is. Now, this one's interesting because an AI prosecution should concede the case. If it concludes with a high degree of probability that you are, you are not guilty. Whereas a human prosecutor can know you're innocent, but try their hardest to lock you up for the rest of your life. Yep. The AI, it will be valued more on its accuracy than on its willingness to put innocent people
Starting point is 01:10:22 away. The AI could, it doesn't have a career that and and with the judge the i could say the the prosecution has made a determination that the the uh accused has a 67.396 percent chance of being innocent of these crimes shall the court continue and then the da would say yes or no but we have to publicly acknowledge that even on their side they've come to determination of great, a high likelihood of innocence. And they can still say, yeah,
Starting point is 01:10:47 but 30, 32% chance that he's guilty of a serious crime. I'd say we present the evidence and people might say, yeah, I agree. I agree. And then the defense AI would come to a similar conclusion. And then the,
Starting point is 01:11:00 the, they would both input arguments and then it would, okay, we, we not guilty yeah man because a lot of what we talk about ai is the bad stuff that's coming with it but it's gonna be so much good stuff no i don't believe you so much so much like we're running out of food how do we avoid um famine and the ai will be like you need to have this much food in this place by this time make
Starting point is 01:11:20 sure your trucks can take this there then we'll'll have the thing. You're half correct. The AI will say, have less kids. Maybe, but you'll have lots of AIs giving you different datas, but it will be able to help you navigate chaos as well as create chaos.
Starting point is 01:11:35 I don't trust it, but I love the optimism. You'll be like, I want to go, just on your average day, you'll be like, I want to drive 40 miles, but I got to get gas
Starting point is 01:11:41 and then I want to get chicken wings. And then it'll be like, go here and here and here. And you'll put it in it'll tell you in three seconds you'll be like okay cool you want to know what the real freaky thing is because we we've brought up this uh terminator scenario before in the early days when we're when we're hypothesizing uh hypothesis imagining and hypothesizing about ai and what it'll be we come up terminator like robots are going to say and this goes back almost 100 years i mean we're talking about 80 years of sci-fi writers. The AI says, you know, the human goes computer end all war on earth.
Starting point is 01:12:10 And then it goes, we'll do blows up humanity and kills everybody. That's one way to end all war, the war to end all wars. But here's what I think we're actually looking at. You're going to have an app and it's going to be called something like, you know, job jobs online, whatever. And you're going to open your app and you're, it's a gig economy thing. And you're going to be like, I need work and you're gonna press a button. And then it's going to, and then one day you're gonna be sitting there, your phone's going to go, you're going to look and it says new job available, $50. And you're going to hit it. And it says, you'll receive this object from this man and bring this object three blocks to this man. And you'll be like,
Starting point is 01:12:46 okay. You'll walk outside and there'll be a guy walking up and he'll go, uh, I guess this is for you. And it'll be a weird mechanical object. You have no idea what it is. You'll go, sure thing. Then you say, what do I gotta do? I gotta walk three blocks this way. You'll walk. And then a random guy will walk up and go, you have the thing? I got the thing.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Thanks so much, buddy. Uh, give me five stars. And then your app is gonna go, bling! Fifty bucks deposited into your Venmo. And you'll go, you have the thing? I got the thing. Thanks so much, buddy. Give me five stars. And then your app is going to go bling, 50 bucks deposited into your Venmo. And you go, I wonder what that was. The machine is building, you know, some kind of gigantic new technological device. You have no idea what it's doing. Someone running a company will say, we want to build a new data center. What's more efficient? Getting one guy to run around and do all of it or distributing all of the work in its most minute form. Take a look at what we did with burger restaurants and the advent of McDonald's. So this was, I think it was McDonald's Brothers or whatever. I watched that movie. What's the founder? And basically they were like, we figured out how
Starting point is 01:13:41 to make burgers really, really fast. Everybody does one thing. One person grills the burgers. One person puts the ketchup and mustard on the burgers. One person's toasting the buns. One person is wrapping the burgers. One person's putting them in the bags. So it's an assembly line. Instead of getting one chef to make a burger, then take an order, it goes real slow. That's what the AI will do to the labor market.
Starting point is 01:14:00 You won't even know who you're working for, but you'll get paid to do it. And you'll get paid well do it and you'll get paid well to do it because it's more efficient saves that saves time and energy and that's it you're gonna look at your app and you're gonna be like i gotta give a bag of corn to this kid and it's gonna give me 50 bucks who would say no you know how their people are having their attention spans shortened by things like tiktok by watching these clips i wonder if ai is gonna start filling in the attention gaps for people so they'll they'll think for like three seconds and then they'll get distracted,
Starting point is 01:14:27 but the AI will complete their thought for them and then they'll have their... But is it really their thought then? No, it would be... That doesn't sound authentic, like an authentic human thought to me if the AI is like just kind of building on half a thought. Like if I send you a video online,
Starting point is 01:14:41 if I saw on Instagram, is that video me? Technically, no, even though it's me talking to you so that if you spent the time to make the video it's your video whereas like if i gave you a paragraph and said but then the rest of this i put into ai and it's a book did i write a book or did ai write a book for me right like these seem like very different things yeah like when does it cease becoming ai and start to become you? Like it's kind of one. When is the data? I think when you call an AI, it is not your thing. You're actually relying on the computer.
Starting point is 01:15:13 To produce information that is not the computer though. The computer is like a vessel to give you the info. Maybe AI or whatever it is. I just mean like if you only do half the work can you actually claim that it's yours you know it's same thing if like if i if we co-wrote a book our name would would both be on there but if you say oh i wrote one paragraph i gave it to the ai then it generated a full novel if you publish it under your name i i just personally feel like you're actually being deceptive in fact you couldn't actually do actually do this task. You needed AI to do it for you.
Starting point is 01:15:46 It's well, like it's the argument you could say is like, if you go to the grocery store, but you drive there, did you actually go or did it, was it a car that went that you were taken along for with? Like it wasn't just, you didn't just go to the store as a,
Starting point is 01:15:57 you and a car and like, you couldn't have done it without the car. So did you even really do it? Was it just you? I think you still went to the store. You did. Whereas like, if you only gave half a thought to an AI and it filled it out to be a complete story
Starting point is 01:16:09 then it has done a lot of work that your brain could have done and you opted not to you know what's going to happen once we're all neural linked no thank you everyone's going to be sharing their thoughts rapidly in real time and it's going to create a hyper consciousness yeah it does and so what ends up happening is you will instantly know what you want to do, know where you need to do it. And you will just be a part of this greater like hive mind, I guess. But the hive mind will effectively exist as a singular conscious, like hyper consciousness, where everyone just knows and feels everything else in real time. And so emotions don't matter because if someone believes something is false and they're plugged in the machine, they instantly will know what everyone else knows and it would instantly correct any false beliefs.
Starting point is 01:16:54 But hold on. So I look at it like single-celled organisms running around the table right now, doing their thing, eating, living their lives. Then there are multicellular organisms where all the different cells in the body have specialized jobs. Imagine all humans sync up in the Neuralink and instantly there are brain cell versions of people. Their job is they're in labs and they're doing, they're analyzing and they're doing the research and the data. And all of the information in their minds is transferred to every other human in real time. And some humans know that now they need sulfur. I have seen and known instantly what all humans
Starting point is 01:17:31 are doing. And all humans now instantly, instantly realize we need 3% more sulfur production. So the humans just start doing it. They just do what needs to be done. And then a few people break out of the machine. They reject reject it they rip the neural link off when they're when they're when they're old enough they they they're sitting there they're hearing everything and then they grab it or gets damaged the neural link breaks you know kids are born and they're instantly neural linked and everyone knows it's good it's great when they're older one's walking and then struck by lightning frying the neural link and then all of a sudden they're like ah what am i what's happening no being
Starting point is 01:18:06 individual is more important and they decide to run and join a colony of free individuals who start building and thriving in a city what do you call a group of cells inside the human body that are operating outside of the body's norms and and and growing and consuming cancer yep and then what happens to cancer we destroy it so when the hive mind eventually takes over and everyone's a part of it and they know what their job is my job is to get sulfur then the people who decide to be individuals and explore life and be free will be hunted down and destroyed but it concerns me that when people are netted in like that if they because emotions are still real and if you we receive data we all get the same piece of data we need we need copper but one of us gets afraid and the chemical the cortisol shoots off and we we see
Starting point is 01:18:54 that copper thing is like a bad thing because of our we're afraid of the data then that's like cancerous to the system too so like the people that are afraid it'll go around be like we must remove fear protocol we cannot have have cortisol interfering with our data. I can imagine that kind of thing too because the fallibility of the human body. I don't think that I think the overwhelming will of the collective consciousness would override it. Absolutely. All your adrenals and stuff. Every human in the world yelling at you, get the copper, we need it.
Starting point is 01:19:20 And you would say yes. Probably really fast. I want you to imagine this. Evolve people really quick. And I'll tell you where my data is that I believe I'm correct. It's Dylan Mulvaney. It's not just Dylan Mulvaney, but Dylan Mulvaney is a really great example. There are a bunch of people online who are shaped by their audiences.
Starting point is 01:19:36 And we know this happens. So if you plugged into the Neuralink, let's separate the Neuralink right now. Let's imagine you're on stage. You're at Wembley. What's the seating capacity of Wembley? 80,000 or something? Let's separate the dinner right now. Let's imagine you're on stage. You're at Wembley. What's the seating capacity of Wembley? 80,000 or something? Let's find out. And everyone in there is going, drink, drink, drink, drink.
Starting point is 01:19:52 And they're cheering and screaming. And there you are, Ian, standing on stage with a bottle of milk. And they're all screaming, we love you. 90,000. 90,000. And all of Wembley Stadium is screaming, we love Ian. We love Ian. love Ian drink the milk you're gonna go yeah
Starting point is 01:20:08 you're gonna drink it if it was like a real life thing it just happened I don't know man I can't stand peer pressure and I can tell you how we know this is true and it's Dylan Mulvaney Dylan Mulvaney did what the algorithm told Dylan Mulvaney to do which included hormones and surgery and other things despite the fact that Dylan does not exhibit
Starting point is 01:20:23 gender dysphoria as as we, as we know it. Dylan Mulvaney, and I, and I cite Dylan because of, you know, the, the, because of the, the, the, the, uh, news around the individual was making safari videos. I'm Dylan. I'm on a safari. Look at the koala. And then wasn't getting that much traffic and chased after whatever got more and more views and then decided to be what the algorithm told dylan to be so if people plug into the neural
Starting point is 01:20:51 link and they have the summation of human will yelling we love you get the copper they will say yes and they're cheering because in their mind it's it's akin to a view counter at seven eight billion watching you waiting for the copper and you're like i gotta get the copper but isn't that already happening yes if you look at co imagine if they plug in yeah covid was a one of the greatest psyops right maybe we all saw that they had to counter the ticker of the deaths but then i was talking my friend about this do you guys remember coney 2012 oh yeah like that was one of the craziest psyops like one of the earliest psyops it made no sense he was like an african dictator but he really wasn't he was like he had already
Starting point is 01:21:30 been he had already been captured or something like it was like he was diminished like the lord's resistance army and it was but they made it i remember that time period i mean that you couldn't escape it but that was one of the psyops so but a bunch of kids went around putting up posters right yeah we're part of this at my high school they like organized uh right like a club invisible children yeah yeah yeah that's so but then i don't you're saying tim like is this a good thing or a bad thing with this global hive that you're talking about i don't know i i don't know it's i i don't i it's a it's a thing because yeah good and bad what is good and bad even this is 12 years ago coney 2012 this was the biggest thing on the planet for like three weeks maybe more the number one video three months wasn't the guy like who was leading it didn't he like
Starting point is 01:22:15 get arrested yeah he was naked in the middle of the street yeah he had a mental breakdown they said he was he was cranking it but he't. He was just holding and squeezing while banging on the ground buck naked. Sounds like bath salts or something. Yeah. Some exotic, crazy drug that guy was on. I don't know, but that's what it sounds like. That was a sigh up, I think. Yeah, but I don't think they meant for it to go viral.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Like, I don't think they thought it was going to be this. How did it happen, then, just organically? The YouTube algorithm was, okay, there's this woman. Someone Google this. A woman, a van life girl with her snake. And she made two videos and got like 3 million subscribers overnight. YouTube makes an algorithm and someone accidentally lands right in the bullseye. Janelle Ileana?
Starting point is 01:23:01 Yeah. That may be her. Is that her name? I think so. Let me see if I can find her. With her pet snake, Alfredo? How do you spell her name? Janelle is J-E-N-N-E-L-L-E.
Starting point is 01:23:11 I found it. Ileana. So she made two videos. Oh, I've seen this girl. And got millions of views. And I don't even think she makes videos anymore. She still makes them on reels or like TikTok. It was crazy how I shower living in a van.
Starting point is 01:23:28 And here's what I think. I think there was a sign up on YouTube for sure. I think YouTube was intentionally promoting van life. Van life was huge. They want millennials to be happy to not own a home. You will own nothing and you will be happy. And they made all these videos and they were like is my is my conspiracy theory i'm it's not mine a lot of people think the same thing they're telling and and the reason why the evidence she made two videos and she got
Starting point is 01:23:57 millions of subscribers why what i think happened was they made an algorithm saying promote van life we want young people to be happy with living in squalor. And she made the perfect combination of keywords, titles, thumbnail and video. And the algorithm went this video, bang, and fired it off. And then, oh, then everyone kind of realized, hey, wait a minute. She got millions of subs overnight from this. Why was everyone being shown this video? And I think then they panicked and pulled her out.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Like Mr. Beast only gets the views he does because YouTube decided he does. His content is intentionally on the front page of YouTube. I never really followed his breakthrough. I don't know a lot about when he stepped over the threshold. He was like grinding for years. Let me explain. Let's talk about Mr. Beast. Yeah,my i think i think he makes good content but let's uh we just got dropped okay i don't care hold on so awesome so we know what he does right i survived seven days in an abandoned city 109 million views he has 243 million subscribers 780 videos let's take a look at his oldest videos worst minecraft saw trap ever
Starting point is 01:25:07 more birds in minecraft this block since when lol what is it pokemon videos sat around play video games and studied the algorithm for like what happened was no he didn't it was an accident no no he had friends they would get together for like 12 hours a day and talk algorithm right right right but i don't want you to make it seem like they sat here saying how can we succeed on youtube and started like a company what happened was they were all making youtube videos and they were like oh i made this video and it did well and because we've all done this on youtube because we know the algorithm changes then he started to change 100 videos special he started to change his videos it doesn't matter if you're sitting around asking what does better or what doesn't.
Starting point is 01:25:45 What matters is whenever a video would do better, he would naturally do more of it. Whenever a video would do worse, he would naturally shy away from doing it. He tried a Hearthstone video. Seems like it didn't really work all that well. How much money does Captain Sparkles make? It did decently okay. So he made more. How much money does this person make?
Starting point is 01:26:01 How much money? You can actually see all the different attempts he made at creating content. Video games. Look at this. 1,500 subs. It's crazy. The reason these have views is because after he got big, people go back to watch them. But like most people, you can see the evolution of the content and what it turned into.
Starting point is 01:26:22 This is what will, this is it. The machine makes people, not the other way around. Yeah. And that goes to the psyops, right? And, you know, we're talking about TikTok. Isn't it kind of interesting
Starting point is 01:26:31 how TikTok really rose during that COVID time? I mean, you had the, here you had the China Wuhan virus come out of that lab and also this Chinese company, TikTok, that came about it. And now it's the number one
Starting point is 01:26:43 social media app in the world i just find it a little i don't believe there's coincidences so it's just a little strange yeah the anti-beast let's see when when and then what happened was mr beast eventually made a video like i'm giving money away and then all of a sudden it got a ton of views he's like i'm gonna make more of these yes that's just him that's just him realizing what's successful people do that on twitter all the time or exactly that where's it giving random people a thousand dollars look at this yep that's when everything changed yep all of a sudden he's getting big views really yep that's when all the views start kicking in big i like the video where video where he paid his mom's house off.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Oh, wait, is that in the bottom right? Giving my mom $100,000. I don't know. He surprised his mom and paid her house off. That was a cool video. But he's like, now smile so we get a good thumbnail for the video, mom. And she's like, I'm really sorry. He totally knows what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Total clickbait, total manipulation. But it's not just a single out Mr. Beast. They all do it every single every single youtuber they will make videos and the videos that work they make more of them that's it yeah but that is a dangerous road because if the people making the algorithms want you to do insidious stuff and they'll give you more views if you do the bad thing yeah like maybe they want you to undergo very you know crazy surgeries or something so they keep promoting your videos and then you got to keep one-upping yourself until you've caused physical harm to your body.
Starting point is 01:28:10 That's something that little kids need to learn. This is actually conversations little kids need to have now. Like 21st century schooling needs to be like, if you don't get views, it's okay. You're not your subscriber count. You are you. I mean, being an influencer is an actual desirable career for a lot of the number one actually number one so this you're absolutely right we should talk about this on the other hand they are all seeing the success that comes from being able to have a successful
Starting point is 01:28:36 public life like this and they're willing to access it for a lot of different reasons i mean i think you'd say you know stay true to who you are and do whatever but it's to a certain extent like they're going to chase the money and they're going to chase the influence and and uh the likes i don't know how effective it would be then are they actually themselves are they controlled by what people want them to be so they just become part of a circus right especially if they start really young like if a kid decides at 15 they want to be a youtube star are they developing their interest and going they want to be a YouTube star, are they developing their interest in going to YouTube to be like, here are the things I'm interested in?
Starting point is 01:29:12 Or are they saying, what do people on YouTube seem interested in that I could theoretically say I'm interested in and make a video about? That's a very weird way to live or a weird way to grow up. I used to do that in 2006. That was when I started. I would look at whatever videos got featured, and I'd make a response video to the featured videos, stuff I didn't care about at all. I was totally selling myself out to get famous on the YouTube. And I would like a video about a sloth because Baratts and Beretta had a featured video about a sloth. I did that. That one did pretty well.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Just junk crap. I'd respond to people. People would like make a video talking about something and I'd just make a response directly to them being like, well, if you believed in what you said, then you wouldn't have blinked three times at the 30 second mark you're obviously lying here like just trolling people that were really popular yeah and eventually i got popular doing it and i hated myself i don't like i got famous for the wrong reason you got to do something be who you respect and get well known for doing that and then you'll love yourself but i would say i don't know two-thirds of online personalities especially on twitter are like what can i say today you know in order to get traffic or to get attention it's really tempting and the funny thing is you know what really bums me out about uh x's pay incentive programs where it's like you get
Starting point is 01:30:22 paid for engagement is that now everyone accuses me of of click farming when i'm just trolling them i'm like no no no i'm trying to rally up and insult you i'm not trying to make money off you i'm already rich like i'm just trying to make you feel bad yeah well or elicit an insight emotion emotional responses so when i when i tweeted things like democracy i tweeted uh i I tweeted believing in God, it should be illegal to not believe in God. And then I tweeted almost right away, it should be illegal to believe in God. And then it was wild how the left only chose one of those tweets and made it go viral. And they were sharing and screenshotting it. And I'm like, that's the funny thing about this.
Starting point is 01:31:00 And then people were like, Tim's trying to engagement farm to make money. I'm like, no, I'm screwing with people.'s funny i don't i don't know that's that that's unfair like i make a thousand dollars every two weeks on x you know a company makes millions of dollars i don't need to make money off x how dare you insult my my attempt to insult you yeah you're almost testing the algorithm in some ways i mean that that when i tweeted that was like make a point i've made this point several times but did you think it would go to that level of course i've done it before you tweet two things so there was a guy uh who got there's a twitter account everyone was cheering for it because he said something like i can't remember what it was but he was like
Starting point is 01:31:38 the world series is going to be between the red socks and and the cubs it's going to go down to the fourth you know it's going to go down to the fourth. It's going to be the fifth inning. They're going to do this. And then the last thing, it's going to turn around. And then everyone's like, how did he get it right? He posted this at the beginning of the season, and he got it right. Exactly what happened in the final game.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Wow. And you know what he did? At the beginning of the season, he created a Twitter account, and he tweeted like 500 different scenarios and then every time one of those scenarios became impossible he deleted it got it and then by the end of the year there was only one tweet left and people were like whoa it's from a year ago and i'm like so are the other 400 that he got rid of interesting yeah yep you make me want to have uh trails for deletions that we should see that something was deleted whenever it was deleted. Yeah, YouTube used to let you change the video file.
Starting point is 01:32:29 If you uploaded a video to YouTube, you could upload a corrected version of it to the same link. And people did all sorts of crazy shenanigans. Yeah, because they would feature you and then you could swap it out. I mean, you could change the title of your video after it got featured. People would make videos where it's like... I don't know if you could swap. I've never tried swapping. They would make a video saying, I'm going to pick my lottery numbers.
Starting point is 01:32:48 I hope I win. And then after the numbers come out, upload a fake version from afterwards of them picking the right numbers to make it seem like they won. You could do all sorts of stuff like that. But they got rid of that. That was like 13, 14 years ago.
Starting point is 01:33:01 They got rid of that feature. And I think... I don't know if it existed for everybody, but I know a lot of people had it and they screwed around with it. Yeah. Internet's a wild place. And I think it's going to melt people's brains.
Starting point is 01:33:13 And I'm a big fan of banning social media for kids. 18 and up only. No. Florida's doing 16, but I think it should be 18. No, no, it's not. What do you think about this? Would you keep kids off the internet?
Starting point is 01:33:26 Legislatively, I don't know, but I do think it's becoming such a problem that we have to tackle it. I mean, you're seeing, so like if it's, what does it say about our society that the number one profession that children want to become is an influencer,
Starting point is 01:33:40 you know, versus you go to China, the number one job that they want to become is like an astronaut, a doctor. So i think it's having a real impact on society where people are doing the most ridiculous things you're seeing some of these youtubers who are you know just complete you know maniacs and i i don't think that progresses society and i think government should be instituted and be promoting policies that better our country not make it in the worst forms possible so uh i if personally i would not want children to be on you know using social media because i do think it rots the brain but there are some benefits to it it's addictive it's very
Starting point is 01:34:17 it's causing Tourette's in young girls it causes depression abnormal socialization like it is adults can handle it and not even that well at least adults can try to handle it but kids absolutely cannot handle it yeah we're gonna go to super chat so if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends and head over to timcast.com click join us become a member today because this show is made possible thanks in part to viewers like you. No member shows on Fridays, though. So tomorrow is my birthday and we want to have a show. So if you haven't already smashed the like button as a birthday present, smash the like button.
Starting point is 01:34:55 Send in your super chats and become a member at TimCast.com. Maybe I should put up a special video tomorrow where it's like today is my birthday. And the present you can get me is to become a member and support the work that we do and that's the only present i need is uh you guys saying you know thank you for for doing everything you do and uh supporting us you heard it here guys tim's gonna work on a saturday that is his birthday to make a video for you we are filming tomorrow it is work so tomorrow the skate park is 99 done at free domistan there are only uh only some bells and whistles are left. And actually, you know,
Starting point is 01:35:26 I should do this before we go to the super chats. We have, uh, this bad boy. It's not a, can I make a better, is there a way to get a, nah,
Starting point is 01:35:32 you can't really see it. Anyway, you want to pull that up? So, uh, this right here is a new component of the skate park. The death drop. This,
Starting point is 01:35:39 uh, is a, is a five foot transition, meaning from the flat part up the curve to the wall where the the curve goes vertical is five feet and then the vertical portion is 11 feet so this is an 11 foot vert wall to a five foot transition and i have offered ten thousand dollars to whoever can successfully drop in on this we have criteria i will i will give the gist of some of these right now it is a skateboard only competition because the bmxers are like i can do it yeah okay okay
Starting point is 01:36:12 uh it's skate it's for skateboards and we have criteria for qualifiers because of the severe serious nature and risk of injury we will not we will not allow just literally anyone. However, it is not restricted to professional skateboarders. So what we're doing is we haven't set up the email just yet, but we are fielding inquiries from anyone who wants to make the attempt to drop in on the death drop at the new Freedomistan skate park, meaning we would bring you in and you would drop in. There are several criteria. The first thing is you have to prove you can skate. So you will need videos and demo tapes proving it is you
Starting point is 01:36:50 and you need to be able to prove it's you. And if you can't prove it's you, too bad. If you send us a video and then you send us social media and the video looks different and we're like, we can't prove that's you, sorry, we're not letting you do it. Because this is an 11 foot,
Starting point is 01:37:01 it's like 23 feet from the from the top to the bottom and it's 16 feet from the top to the deck and if you screw this up you're falling straight onto your side you could break your neck pros only i don't know if it's possible some pros have said they believe it is for a kid it may be so we're going to be doing is people who's who feel they have the who they can who can do it i want to stress like this ramp is five feet tall it's it's way gnarlier in person. I think people are overestimating. I could do that. It is possible, but man.
Starting point is 01:37:30 What we're probably going to do, we have several pros who have reached out saying, I can do this. We're like, okay. Pros, for the most part, we have vetted because we know them. We know their abilities. Any reg, regular skater, core skater, or local skater from a certain area who wants to submit, can submit.
Starting point is 01:37:45 You need to prove you can drop in on stuff. You need to prove you can skate because this is top tier, high level pro stuff. And after that, when we select, I don't know how many people wound up selecting to actually come out for a session. You have to actually get up the wall ride to the window before we will let you even try to drop in that is actually not that hard uh i could probably get i could not drop in on this but i could probably at least get to the window on the vert wall that's probably actually decently easy window height and if you can then you are basically able i think at that point if you can if you can get to the window you probably
Starting point is 01:38:25 will succeed at dropping it it's a different it's it's different from uh dropping in because your compression into the wall helps stabilize you versus dropping in you have none so they're not the same but then we're going to uh we we still need to figure out the total uh criteria because there will be only one prize which means in the event that more than one individual successfully drops in in the in in the least amount of tries let's say it takes someone one try to do it another person says i'll try it and they both get it in one try there will need to be a sudden death tiebreaker of some sort so there's only one prize here but we're we're working on that and uh we're getting a whole bunch of pros being like, oh, crap. 10K is no joke.
Starting point is 01:39:05 10,000. We get people who don't even skate being like, I will. I will try. I don't care. It's like, you're not going to be able to put off. So anyway, tomorrow is the first day the park will be open. It is my birthday. And we will be having a soft session, soft opening.
Starting point is 01:39:19 And the official opening party for the whole space will be April 6th. But for tomorrow, I will be. We willth but for tomorrow i will be we will be filming this for the boonies and it is a part of it is a work function but it's also fun so uh that being said we'll go we'll go to super chats now and uh yeah so i stay tuned follow at boonies hq there's ten thousand dollars on the line and submissions are open to all if you have the skills to pay the bills we've already got some uh we have a lot of submissions from local skaters not pro not sponsored who seem capable of making the attempt and you know i was talking to richie jackson pro skater who's working with us and he's like i got
Starting point is 01:39:57 a handful of pros who have said they want to do it and i said if we only allowed pros to come it would be so whack like it's not about being a pro and having people know who you are. We want people who are capable of doing it. And, uh, it's going to be fun. It's gonna be fun. But what we're ultimately going to do is we're going to set a series of challenges for free Domestan that will be open to the public for submission. That's right. With all the obstacles and the expansions that we're doing, we are going to create prizes where we are going to, like, it's not just the drop-in we've got other obstacles, and we will say, if you successfully accomplish this or that, we're going to have various prize levels of, you know, 10k, and we might even, I think 10k might be the cap, because I don't know what else we do after dropping in from 11 feet, for 22 feet up, 11 feet of vert into a five-foot
Starting point is 01:40:41 ramp is about the craziest thing we have in the space, but we're going to set challenges to like a backside tail slide down the hub uh you know we'll give someone 100 bucks and stuff and that means that regular uh old local skaters can always submit once we get the system open and if we vet you and your your talent we'll bring you in to make the attempts at the challenges and i think that'll be really cool it's a great content and i really want to break the industry and open it up to everybody. Meaning you might be some dude who's been skating for 10 years and you're a local guy.
Starting point is 01:41:10 You've got no sponsors. You've never got a foot in the industry, but you know you can tray flip crook really well. And that's one of the challenges. We will bring you in. We'll film you. We'll put it up there and that'll be fun. So that being said,
Starting point is 01:41:21 become a member at timcast.com if you want to give me a birthday present and we will read your Super Chats. All right. Tim Jake 78 says, South Carolina became the 29th constitutional carry state yesterday when Governor McMaster signed the Second Amendment Preservation Act. Man, I am loving it. Hot dog.
Starting point is 01:41:39 That's great. Good job, America. We are getting it. Yeah, slowly but surely. Jacob Parody says says i invite you all to visit narbar's candles on public square to try our saint patrick's day themed candles basil sage mint and lemongrass bergamot bliss is that what it is bergamot bergamot bergamot it's the flavor in earl grey tea i'm sure you know about that cheers to the parallel economy
Starting point is 01:42:01 mm-hmm josh mccluskey says rest in peace to a true legend akira toriyama thanks for the memories you gave so many people and the friendships dragon ball helped bring uh together the rest easy akira toriyama man and also i think uh what did he do um he did a dragon quest oh the game yeah yeah akira toriyama did the did the characters for dragon quest i believe right i don't know i don't know i didn't know that he did more than dragon ball z dragon ball dragon ball z super uh dragon ball uh he did he was the monster the main character monster designer of dragon quest series yep yep legend yeah seriously when uh dragon ball z uh was it was massively popular and it is basically the biggest show in Japan, they have billboards and, like, Goku is a celebrity. When they wanted to bring it to the United States, American business entertainment were convinced kids would not want to watch this extremely long, complicated, continuous storyline, and they were wrong.
Starting point is 01:43:03 100% wrong. Oh, Dragon Quest was Dragon dragon warrior that's right i didn't know that i played dragon warrior one on that's right oh man yeah what a good game metal you could say yes to the end boss he's like join me and you can say yes and then the whole screen turns red and the game just stops it's crazy dragon warrior was awesome yeah all right where we at and the spells you had were hurt it was like i'm gonna cast a spell hurt and hurt more that was amazing you couldn't call it fire or something funny they changed that later with the other games though you got explode or something let's grab some more super chat steven says says or steven says notice that the gold star dad
Starting point is 01:43:43 didn't just call out biden for his own child's death he called out 13 marines that's right can't have that oh we got a a big series of super chats rusted baron says longish tim watcher since around 18 i used to be a bernie bro in 16 anti-gun socialist raised democrat by feminist single mom struggled through my teens and 20s with toxic relationships was a nice guy type. Sneaky fucker. Oof. Couldn't keep a job. Always poor. My awakening started with the way Dems slighted Bernie in the primaries
Starting point is 01:44:12 which triggered me to look deeper. Eventually I found Tim rambling on the internet. Started to listen. Got hooked. Left the left wing city to work the oil fields in another state. Added Timcast IRL to my daily routine when it launched. Now in my mid-thirt, I'm a trucker. Moved to a rural area.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Grow my own vegetables. Have chickens. Chickens! Nice, dude. Went from zero rifle to seven rifle, ranging from 22LR to 50BMG. Have a six-month food supply. Bought Bitcoin. And best of all, I married my wife in December of last year.
Starting point is 01:44:40 At the end of this month, we will welcome our first son. Congratulations. Dude, this guy is awesome. Thank you, Tim and crew through spreading information and knowledge it helped turn my life around for the better side note ian i used to hate you with a passion but now i am sad when you're not on the show oh that's awesome that's even better than just blindly liking me so thanks it is funny there was that uh that nice woman who came to the event and she was like ian i used to not like you but now i love you so much i came in hot man i didn't know what i was doing here in the very beginning i had to figure but she pointed out it's the rolling the ones in the 20s and also in the very beginning i was
Starting point is 01:45:12 treating this show like a jam session of me and tim so like i was equaling his energy as a host and i didn't think of it at the very beginning i was like yeah it's just me and tim 50 50 but in reality now it's more of an orchestra and he's the conductor and I'm playing like first trumpet or something so it's way more smooth there's less room for like people be like shut up idiot let the guy talk all right Lee Pilkovsky says hi Tim normally at this time of year I listen while making maple syrup in my sugar house oh wow unfortunately it burned last week it was a total loss now being investigated oh no man sorry to hear this is crazy i want an update on could you please shout out my give send to go campaign to help rebuild search for colonial mountain maple let's do that right now immediately colonial mountain maple i
Starting point is 01:45:57 am pulling that up give me a second sorry about the loss man that sucks yeah that sucks this also feels like it's like a cross between a true crime movie and a hallmark movie like someone came to burn the sugar house down crazy there it is colonial mountain maple and uh what's the what's the goal what's the what's the target you say there uh i'm on mobile and i don't think it has a goal okay but i will give oh look at that. A Timcast IRL viewer already gave. I, too, will give. What is a good amount to give? I want to search there.
Starting point is 01:46:30 What are they doing? They're rebuilding their maple syrup house where they make sugar. I don't know how much that costs. $10,000? Google it. I don't know. Something like that. Well, I'm putting in $5,000, $10,000.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Do some huge amount. I'm putting in $1,,000, $10,000? Do some huge amount. I'm putting in $1,000 and I'm also kicking a little bit extra to Give, Send, Go because they are good. Oh, nice. We're going to give
Starting point is 01:46:52 a little extra to Give, Send, Go. Get that new sugar house up. That's arson. I'm sorry. This is a moving way The panicleer is lit right now, by the way. She's pissed.
Starting point is 01:46:59 Yeah. I'm going to mess with her sugar. What are they doing? Messing with the maple sugar house? That's also like a cultural thing. That's a regional thing. How could they do this? This is a crime against humanity. I wonder how it smells. It's so sticky.
Starting point is 01:47:12 It's like completely caramelized. It's the worst. GoFundMe is always like when you give someone money, it says, would you like to give us some money to help us? I'm like, no. But Give, Send, Go I gave. They're notoriously good. A thousand bucks your way. Best of luck, good sir, bucks your way uh best of luck
Starting point is 01:47:25 good sir on your uh maple uh and your sugar house and with the the court proceedings that they don't they don't actually charge you with that colonial mountain maple man sorry to hear it i want pictures of the new maple house get insurance yeah i get insurance there you go all right here we go extra pretty lady says long time supporting Berkeley County member, 2015. Son's dream came true. Avril was approved by ATF. Sell and manufacture from Hedgesville, West Virginia. Help us celebrate.
Starting point is 01:47:52 Oh, no way. With free layaways. Berkeley Ammo RY. All right. Glad to hear it. That's local, too. Congratulations. Berkeley. Very cool.
Starting point is 01:47:59 That's really cool. That's really close. Yeah. Berkeley County. Hedgesville. That's like. Logan Miller says, I did an oil painting of President Trump, placed it on my website for sale went to run an ad on facebook
Starting point is 01:48:09 and they refuse stating it was social issues in politics it is a historical painting i'll paint obama and see what see what phil run what is the web i wanted the website i want to look at it we uh for the for the painting of trump yeah yeah i don't know you can look up logan miller trump painting that's the name uh well let's read some more raymond g stanley jr says guys what's your thoughts on katie britt's response for me it was a roller coaster of cringe with soft speak and anger a younger female joe biden i don't know who watched it i watched it what do you think Well, I don't think it spoke to me. And I think, you know, Katie Britt's a good senator, but the intended audience, it probably was effective, which is suburban moms who may not know the impacts of our open border. And I think she presented it in a way that could resonate it.
Starting point is 01:49:00 But for someone like me, yeah, I thought it wasn't speaking to me. I mean mean she was like the kitchen backdrop was kind of unusual that was their plan suburban moms yeah and it came off like very hollywood and came off a little stage to me yeah and you know bobby jindal he did that mistake when he was the governor of louisiana the the see this is where republicans don't get they're like you know we should do we want to win suburban moms we need to get like someone who's a comparable age who can like speak to them wrong they should have got a hot yoga instructor I'm not joking a suave looking guy and he and he should have he should have been a strong man in like a suburban house kind of setting not a kitchen
Starting point is 01:49:41 and he should have been very smiley and assertive and calm, but strong, piercing. That's what you do. Like you gotta get a competent Justin Trudeau-like figure. Did you see, I guess the Republican response the last time it was a white man, I think it was like 2012 or something. Wow. It was a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Yeah. So I don't know. Is it gonna be effective? Maybe. It depends on who it is. They could go for a swarthy, chiseled guy. We've got to start looking at these Congress members. Who is the swarthiest and most chiseled?
Starting point is 01:50:15 Chiseledest is what I was about to say. The chiseledest of all? Who is the most chiseled? Carrie Lake did a response. I thought hers was actually really effective. It was a pretty good response. I'm'm gonna let you guys in on a secret because you're from arizona i love carrie working working in uh everybody who's watched the if you've seen every episode of the show you know what i'm gonna say but many of you haven't working in
Starting point is 01:50:35 non-profit fundraising you are not allowed to tell any of the fundraisers the most uh effective like the the character traits the person out the personal traits that result in the highest amount of contributions for uh as as most of the viewers who are fans have seen me say this three times i'll ask you abe what do you think for a man what is the what is the what is the trait of a man that is most likely to result in a yes for a contribution or a sale confidence that's a good one but it's not the number one you know any other guess height tall guys no matter how stupid for some reason always brought in massive cash now what do you think the number one trait for women was attractiveness but more
Starting point is 01:51:21 specific don't make me so you're not allowed to say this at uh at non-profits because they'll get in trouble with hr and they'll get in trouble but i would say you know having worked in like five or six offices and as a director and as a associate director and training director women with large breasts had a very high rate of success in fundraising and tall guys. You could bring in the smartest, savviest, smooth talkingest woman. And on average, the women who came in with knowledge and confidence, they would do well. But you take like you got a woman who was smart, capable, confident, knowledgeable, large breasts. She would she would come back with like 15 new
Starting point is 01:52:02 members every day and she'd be making six figures. You get a guy who was smart, knowledgeable, competent, capable, passionate and tall. Same deal. But then I'd notice you take someone who's dumb as a box of rocks, but six five. And I knew a guy like this and this dude could sell. I was like, man, and I'm like, I need to know your secret. Like, how are you? How like how are you how are you getting uh how are you getting these like these these massive numbers let me hear your pitch uh so you know we have a problem that like you you know what i mean right like
Starting point is 01:52:38 it's the environment you know we live in it and uh well i think you should you should help so we uh we're we're doing donations and the women were just like yes whatever you want please tell me more and this guy would just come back and be like it's so easy to make money and i would just laugh i'd be like wow but i also knew this guy who was five two who also would make tons of money and he was this other character type talks like this listen i'm gonna tell you what you need what you need to do right now if you want to be happy you want to get the job done you got to talk to me i'm gonna come this way come this way put his arm around you and then that dude i always love people like that yeah he was short he was chubby and he could sell and he would also do really really well too but i'm just saying there's a tendency
Starting point is 01:53:19 a tall guys and and busty women but attractiveness is the general obvious thing because you know they don't have to be busty but guys you go you go to a financial uh a center of like chicago or whatever and they're dead zones where it's like good luck raising money there it's all guys in suits they won't talk to you they don't want to talk to you they they disdain you and that's where they won't tell you this but the directors who run the office who know that, who know they can't publicly say it, they'll just be like, um, uh, Janet, we're going to send you to the financial center again. And she goes, oh, great. I love going there.
Starting point is 01:53:51 And everyone else is like, how do you get people to stop and talk to you? It's like, well, 30 year old dude in a suit sees a beautiful woman and he's stopping. He's on his lunch break. And he's like, I want to hear what she has to say. Three minutes of flirty time is worth my donation. But the reality is it feels good for the guy. You know, this woman's giving him attention, talking to him, smiling. He's like, it makes him feel better.
Starting point is 01:54:11 You know, let's grab some more super chats. Let's go. Maren Taylor says when Biden started talking about Lake and Riley and he pulled that thing out from behind the podium, I swear to God, I thought it was an egg. I kept waiting for him to crush it in some kind of sick senile analogy. It was the pin, I believe, that Marjorie Taylor Greene gave him.
Starting point is 01:54:31 Yeah. That said Lakin, right? And he looked at it and he's like, Lakin! He still messed it up. He couldn't read it. Brutal. And Marjorie Taylor Greene yelled.
Starting point is 01:54:40 They didn't throw her out and arrest her. You know what? Dean Phillips said something like that. They're like, they didn't eject and arrest marjorie taylor green so why did they arrest this guy yeah yeah wow they gotta scrub that guy's misdemeanor that's he's gotta do that they have to bring him bring him up apologize to him give him some time to speak but he won't do it because it's bad for him i hope uh i hope he asks uh kareem about it eric miller says tim about tiktok how about we don't ban tiktok but say as long as as it's not american social media company doesn't get 230
Starting point is 01:55:13 protections they can operate but they're open for lawsuits to be fair that's just shutting them down with extra steps it's like stripping them of liability protections is they're over overnight you know just got this breaking that a helicopter went down on the u.s mexico border that was a while ago actually that was today this is from the ap from like a half 40 minutes ago a national a national guard helicopter crashed killing three people on board earlier today okay yeah national guard members in a in a border patrol agent yeah and the other story was that cartel members apparently released video of them laughing as it happened really yeah something like that steven kills donk says tim it's also my birthday tomorrow so happy birthday shoplifters should be called undocumented customers did i hear right that timcast is sponsoring a nascar at some point
Starting point is 01:55:59 we um yes we have uh um i don't know when or how we should announce it, but we basically did a handshake with Cody Dennison. So we're excited and we're buying the full wrap and I'm trying to get some other people involved, but I'm 100% on board. So I just got to figure out where we're currently at with it. I think he sent us paperwork and we're going through it. So excited. That's very cool.
Starting point is 01:56:24 Yeah. He's on youtube too what's his channel you know his channel if you want to look it up who is it uh it was a camel cast or something uh cody dennison he's a driver apparently he's done yeah you yeah we played video games on gamer base right yeah he was here on pop culture crisis and then they came up to me and they mentioned uh you know brett brought him over and he's like yeah he's looking for sponsors for his car and i was like done i shook his hand and he's like, yeah, he's looking for sponsors for his car. And I was like, done. And I shook his hand. And he was like, what, really? I'm like, yes.
Starting point is 01:56:46 This is great. We love it. We're really excited. And we'll go down to one of the races and we'll hang out. The full wrap? Yeah. What are you going to put on it? Tim Kist.
Starting point is 01:56:54 But I'm hoping that we can get some other companies to be on it as well. Because there's other spots on it. But yeah, it'll just be Tim Kist. Very cool. You know what his channel is? Xavier, you're asking me what his channel is called? I'm not seeing it. Did you Google it?
Starting point is 01:57:06 Yeah. I'm searching it on YouTube, but I'm not finding it through that. Maybe searching it through the internet is a better way. We'll make sure we get it. I don't know what his channel is.
Starting point is 01:57:16 Are you a NASCAR guy? Do you like NASCAR? No, I think I can only watch cars go in circles. Is it Camelot or something? Fair. It's a complicated sport. Not everyone understands it.
Starting point is 01:57:28 Do you like NASCAR? I mean, I don't not like it. I have no opinion on it. Right. It's cool to see how many people in NASCAR just naturally lean, like more politically right. It's where FJB came from, baby. I know. It's so funny.
Starting point is 01:57:41 That's why I'm like, yes, I'm on board. This is where legends are made. Yeah. Not against it, but I just don't particularly watch it, but I'm sure in person to be really fun. I feel that's why I've always heard that it's actually one of the best places to go, like with your family of like a bunch of kids of different ages,
Starting point is 01:57:56 because like the cars are interesting. There's food. There's like, no, like there's a lot of stuff to do. So I'll say. Let's go. Ultima says, I do think a good exchange would be if you have a baby as a woman, then you can vote.
Starting point is 01:58:09 Take away single childless woman's right to vote based. Okay. The only comment to that is like, if you have a woman who is like infertile, who can't have a kid, what's her option there? Draft. She has to be in the draft? She legitimately wants to have one. Service guarantees citizenship. Yeah. the draft she she legitimately wants to have one service guarantees citizenship yeah so service could be if you are uh in civic duty in any of any kind if you're a paramedic you know if you've
Starting point is 01:58:33 you know and maybe there could be a threshold of like limited community service and uh or if you're a woman it's that or you had to get kids yeah i like we could save the birth rate this is it i mean look the problem it can be solved very easily conservatives and libertarians post liberals anti-woke anti-establishment have as many kids as you can let the liberals not have kids i i celebrate their not wanting to have children thank you so much for for sacrificing for us but we want my my future kids will be much much better off because they aren't having kids they're gonna be you know uh the children of conservatives are gonna grow up and they're gonna be in their early 30s and they're gonna be voting and the country
Starting point is 01:59:20 is getting cleaned up the streets are being cleaned the businesses are booming and they're gonna be going to their parents and be like what were you guys complaining about everything's so nice and they're like you have no idea but the liberals aren't going to have kids good time but do you think that's happening when you have you know i don't know if anybody else served the military but you know the greatest thing about the military is it's the greatest equalizer no matter if you're poor rich what religion you are what race you are it brings everybody together you wear that same uniform but then you're seeing the military's recruitment is is way below now i mean i think they missed it by 40 000 yeah so what kind of generation are we creating where people no longer
Starting point is 01:59:54 want to serve and defend this country anymore well they don't want to serve and defend the likes of joe biden the uniparty establishment so a good one and once that the inevitability is our children will inherit this country they will inherit the world so the less liberals the less liberal ideology expands i know everybody always says yeah but they're indoctrinating kids yeah but they're losing they're screaming you're banning books because we are winning so they don't have kids and their ideological push is being thwarted. And now with Gen Z being the most conservative generation in a hundred years, and that's true, they're, and that means tending conservative. They're skewing back towards conservative side. Gen Z's view of same-sex marriage is now comparable to that of, I think the silent generation or something like this. Like they're opposing same-sex marriage.
Starting point is 02:00:44 With that push millennials can scream and cry and try to indoctrinate all night but the the latest poll was 65 percent of gen z said the in the poll calm down ian said that donald trump is going to shake up the country for the better so this is now what the fifth or sixth poll showing gen z skewing towards trump so they can indoctrinate all they want they can trial that all they want but the future is is is is clear yeah but if you look at, if you go to Ivy schools, Ivy league schools, and you see the percentage of people who identify as LGBTQ, it's like astronomical, right? Yeah. But that doesn't matter. But it does because Gen Z Gen Z opposes same-sex marriage at
Starting point is 02:01:19 a rate comparable to like the silent, but you're talking about the general population. When you're talking about who's going to be leading these institutions, who are going to be our prosecutors, our judges. But those institutions are failing. Completely. Yeah. So what's going to come about society? So when like the military is a good example, when they fail to get their recruitment numbers and they and Donald Trump gets elected and then Donald Trump appoints some people who are OK. He doesn't have the best track record on hiring. But then, you know, 20 years from now,
Starting point is 02:01:46 you're the president, and you are going to weed out the bad people and bring in good people. Then the systems, then all of a sudden people want to join up again. All of a sudden people are like, did you see what President Hamadei is doing? He's getting rid of all the weird woke garbage.
Starting point is 02:02:02 He's instituting these programs that are going to be beneficial for veterans. He's helping, and then they weird woke garbage. He's instituting these programs that are going to be beneficial for veterans. He's helping. And then they start voting for better members of Congress. And then the military will be built back up. If we can, I mean, going back to Ian's point about our elections, right? I mean, our elections are severely compromised. I've witnessed it firsthand in Arizona.
Starting point is 02:02:17 You know, there's still 9,000 uncounted ballots in the 2022 election. And we lost it by 280. So when you start to see that the apparatus, whether it's the media, whether it's the machines, I mean, that's actually what, we were down 511 votes and went down to 280 because there was a machine, ES&S machines, reading the ballots incorrectly in one county.
Starting point is 02:02:37 So there's so much more to it. I agree, I hear you. I'm just saying that that system can't sustain itself if Gen Z is skewing further and further right as time goes on. Eventually what happens is the judges and the lawyers that are fighting and winning cease to exist. As time goes on, they retire, they quit, they pass. There is going to be over over time, more conservatives than liberals. And then it comes down to 20 lawsuits are filed in Arizona from the right and three from the left.
Starting point is 02:03:12 And the left might win one or two, but eventually the right just overwhelms. But that's assuming they're not going to change the rules once they take power, which they are doing. What you would be describing then is a fringe ideology in control of institutions with a majority population sitting back and accepting it, which I don't see as being possible. I think that's what we're witnessing right now. But we're in the middle of it. I'm saying in 20 years, the way Gen Z is skewing,
Starting point is 02:03:35 it will be untenable for the left to maintain what they're doing. The institutions will falter. Disney's losing billions of dollars. Bud Light lost 40 billion, 30 billion in stock value and 10 billion in sales it's just going to slowly stop working and what will end up happening is you'll see a skew where you'll get more right like moderate leaning democrats to try and win their districts because
Starting point is 02:03:57 they're unpopular the progressives will not be working sure they'll try and play dirty games but eventually the system just won't operate the way they want it to because the population is against them. It will crack. But you know what? We'll see. And we'll wrap it up there. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. And if you're not already a member, tomorrow's my birthday. So head over to, you know what I'll do? I'll do a shout out today and Monday. Go to, because we don't have a show on Saturday. Go to timcast.com click join us become a member at 10 bucks a month get access to all of our wonderful content join the discord server hang out with like-minded individuals and that would be the best birthday present a man could ask for you can follow the show at
Starting point is 02:04:35 timcast irl you can follow me personally at timcast follow me on instagram we're gonna have some updates from boonies uh abe do you want to shout anything out no i just want to thank you all for having me and uh you know i'm a young man got in getting into politics and i think that you know you really tested when the whole world's coming after you had the establishment come after me after november 2022 try to make me not go and contest my election i'm still in lawsuits over that because of what the people what those people those corrupt people did is they really stole the votes of so many arizonans so you know i've gained decades of knowledge in a condensed one year period of time and i can't wait to go into congress to bring all of that courage and fight in me because our country is not headed in the right direction and that's why i'm
Starting point is 02:05:18 proud to be endorsed by president trump and carrie lake will be our next senator and i think we're gonna you know i think it's better days are ahead of us because I do think people are waking up. And they can go to my website, abe4az.com if they want to learn more. Are you in a Republican? Like, what's your district? Yeah, I won that district in the AG race by 12%. Oh, wow. So it's very Republican.
Starting point is 02:05:35 Oh, OK. Right on. Cool. Looking forward to it. Thanks for coming, man. Thanks for hanging out. Thank you. Are you on Twitter or Instagram or anything?
Starting point is 02:05:41 Yep. Twitter, Instagram, Truth Social at Abraham Homiday. Nice. Awesome. It's been fun having you here. Thank you, guys. Twitter, Instagram, Truth Social at Abraham Homiday. Nice. Awesome. It's been fun having you here. Thank you, guys. Pre, happy birthday to Tim. I hope you have a great Saturday.
Starting point is 02:05:50 I'm Hannah Claire Brimelow. I'm a writer for scnr.com. You can follow our work at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram. I'm on Twitter at hcbrimelow, and I'm on Instagram at hannahclaire.b. Have a great weekend. Bye, Ian. You too. Happy birthday, Tim.
Starting point is 02:06:02 See you guys later. Abe, good to meet you, man. I'm going to be out of town next week everyone. I'll be working out with Luke Rutkowski at We Are Change on the best political show through the week. I think it's like 6pm Eastern to 8pm Eastern right before this show.
Starting point is 02:06:15 Monday through whatever. It's going to be X amount of days in the week. So we'll see you then. So tune in and we'll keep in touch. Follow me on the internet Tim. Happy birthday man. It'll be fun. Have a good time on that 80 foot ramp you guys are going to be dropping in on and let me know how it, Tim. Happy birthday, man. It'll be fun. Have a good time on that 80-foot ramp you guys are going to be dropping in on. Let me know how it goes, brother. It's 22 from the top. 22 feet. 22 foot.
Starting point is 02:06:32 Cool looking. Oh, get another photo of that with a human standing there for reference. I think if we do that, people might be like, maybe I can. Yeah. I think they don't realize. The door was in the shot, though. I don't think people know how tall the door is. I didn't even know it was a door. Alright, Serge. Have a nice weekend, yeah. I think they don't realize. The door was in the shot, though. And I don't think people know how tall the door is. I didn't even know it was a door.
Starting point is 02:06:47 Yeah. All right, Serge. Have a nice weekend, man. Yeah, thanks. Appreciate it. And to everyone else as well, have a good weekend. I'll see you tomorrow, Tim. All right.
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