Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #980 Biden CONFIRMED To Have Broken Law By GOP, DOJ REFUSES To Prosecute w/Curt Mills

Episode Date: March 13, 2024

Tim, Shane, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Curt Mills to discuss the Robert Hur investigation into Biden's classified documents scandal, Joe Biden officially winning the Democrat primary, Biden inviting dozens of TikTok stars to his SOTU speech, and why boomers still treat Gen X and Millennials like children. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The White House attempted to interfere in the special counsel investigation of Joe Biden. And at the hearing today, Robert Herr testified it was the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Democrats were accidentally defending Donald Trump in this weird way. I don't understand. And Republicans were arguing. Look, the Democrats were saying that Robert Herr was trying to make Joe Biden look bad so that Trump would win and that Trump was also not of sound mind and was senile, which would effectively mean he can't be prosecuted because that was Robert Herr's argument that Joe Biden, he's he's just his memory is not good and you can't prove intent, which made literally no sense because the crime committed by Joe Biden was seven years ago. And none of this hearing makes any sense in fact robert her special counsel confirmed that all of the criteria for a criminal for a crime what was met by joe biden joe biden committed these crimes he took classified documents he had motive to do so financial gain personal uh his

personal legacy he knew that it was a crime to do so and even warned his ghost writer when he revealed this information be careful some of this may be classified yet for some reason robert hurst like but we can't charge him because you know his memory is bad and so the argument from one you know one member of congress is like so his memory was bad in 2017 when he committed the crime apparently so democrats like adam sch Adam Schiff accused Robert Herr of being a Republican partisan who was trying to help Donald Trump win. But I actually assume that, come on, as if the Democrat DOJ would appoint Robert Herr without, you know, you're going to win the battle before it starts. They knew exactly what they're going to get out of it. And I think that Robert Herr just doesn't want to go after Joe.

I think the double standard in the DOJ. But there are a lot of interesting political arguments we'll get into. I think the important one is the confirmation that the White House did reach out to them and try to influence the investigation. So we'll talk about that. Joe Biden has won the Democratic nomination. Congratulations, Joe Biden. We are excited that you are the nominee because no one has any idea how you're going to try how you're going to win this one. And I think I think it's expected tonight donald trump should win the gop uh nomination getting more than enough delegates to to be the official nominee he's already the presumptive nominee so it's a big waste of time but we'll uh we'll talk about that plus a bunch of other stories leaked uh i shouldn't say leaked

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Who are you? What do you do? I'm the executive director of a magazine called The American Conservative. We're out in D.C. Right on. So you should know a lot about all of this stuff. We try to. All right, all right.

It should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. Got Hannah Clare hanging out. Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. That's Scanner News. Shane's back tonight. What's up? It's good to be back i'm very sorry about mr bogus uh glad we had a moment with him last night after the show uh i grew up on a horse farm buried lots of

animals i remember my first horse funeral was like a year old and i had a life of funerals at our farm and it never got easier you know like so i know the pain of losing an animal it's horrible no matter how much it uh it happens but you can find my writing at scanner.com. And happy to be back. Serge, what's good? We can only assume that Mr. Muttonchops is the next to go. Oh, yeah. He's the rooster that keeps escaping.

Oh, jeez. And it's hilarious. And to be honest, we culled a good amount of the roosters and ate them. Well, that was delicious. It was delicious. It was delicious. Allison's rooster chili. But we spared Mr. Muttonchops because he's hilarious and he always escapes.

And I was like, that amount of courage should be rewarded if only because it's short-lived yeah true uh yeah rest in peace mr rocus uh i'm ready to start when you are here we go uh we have the story from the post-millennial white house tried to get special counsel to change biden classified docs report before release her said that officials did in fact request certain edits and changes to the draft report. This is interesting because I believe it was reported to the contrary. Initially, the White House denied that they ever tried to interfere. Now, this is the special counsel, Robert Herr, who was testifying before the House Judiciary Committee earlier today in what may be. I think this this this testimony may be some of the most important testimony this country has ever heard, because this testimony exposes that there is no longer a country.

I don't know how else to put it. Robert identified multiple criteria that had to be met in order to justify criminally charging Joe Biden. He was asked several times by Republicans, was the criteria met to which he kept saying no, but yes. And the reason why the third criteria, I believe it was the willful retention of the documents or something to this effect. And he said, while there is evidence that Joe Biden did willfully retain these documents, knowingly breaking the law, he's got a bad memory. So we couldn't prove that he was willful when he did it, despite the fact he said he was doing it for financial gain and for his legacy and he warned others that it was dangerous because it might be classified but we can't prove that it's like wait hold on i kid you not he was asked several times robert her so joe biden was speaking with his ghost writer and he tells his ghost writer be careful some of this might be classified

the ghostwriter then deletes that conversation knowing there was a special counsel invest uh investigating it and that it was a crime obstructing justice destroying evidence there have been no criminal charges when you have in congressional testimony a man a man saying i i i kid you not uh joe biden thought he was going to make money off his book he was he was uh what's the word that you remember he said that he was reserved to to uh to make this book happen or something like that that there were there were people who were interested in buying it he needed these documents for his legacy and that is in the report factually and i i have to i have to wonder

when we have this story that the White House tried to get special counsel to change the Biden classified docs report before its release. I have to wonder if what really happened is Robert Herr was like, oh, yeah, Joe Biden broke the law and then and willfully retain the documents, shared the information with someone who had no clearance, knew he did it. And then the Biden white house went to him and said we will destroy you and we will destroy your children unless you refuse to go after biden and this is this is what he ended up getting out of it i can't tell you it it is it is shockingly insane you know adam schiff is arguing that uh robert was actually trying to help trump win by by saying that joe biden was uh you know essentially a frail old man well-to-do old man

with a bad memory when he didn't need to include that rebecca said well i did to explain why we weren't charging him and then you know the democrats were like you could have said something like you lacked the evidence to prove intent that's all and that that's true i mean robert heard didn't need to say here's why He could have literally just been like, however, evidence of intent were. Ultimately, the problem was, the reason why he did have to include it is because all the criteria has been met. Joe Biden took classified documents. He had them at multiple locations. I think it was like six locations. He did it for financial gain because he wanted to write a book and he knew the book was going to sell.

He wanted to preserve his legacy. Apparently this is what he was saying. Here's the wildest part of it. When Robert Herr was questioning Joe Biden, I kid you not, Joe Biden responds with, you step your foot off the accelerator until it says launch. Transcript then indicates makes car sound, which means Joeiden literally when talking to the special counsel and being investigated he's like here so the corvette's great you you put your foot in the accelerator you hold it down until it says launch take your foot off the brake and then he literally said uh this is what uh dylan houseman says joe biden literally said my corvette go burr when her pleaded with him to answer actual questions i'm i i watched this testimony and i was like there's no united states there's no reality there's i mean look a country

a legitimate functioning country with a legitimate functioning law enforcement this does not happen in but we're a banana republic the the the sitting president broke the law seven years ago the argument from robert her is that joe biden today his memory is bad so you know what are we going to do but this was seven years ago it was afghanistan documents from when he was vice president yeah well what are you gonna do about it i guess at the point what are we gonna do about it now a few things say maybe robert herr was like if we indict him then they can bring in gavin newsom you know they can justify something so's just let him, let's let him stay president, I guess. His memory's bad.

So let's put him in the White House. That sounds good. I mean, it is, it is amazing. To me, this comes across as protecting Biden at any cost. And for some reason, instead of saying we couldn't establish a tent,

saying, well, you know, he's a bad memory. Can't always trust everything he says. Somehow seemed like a better conclusion to draw, which to me as an American citizen sounds awful. We don sounds awful we don't we don't know what this guy's gonna say and he can't remember anything he good thing he's making

all of our decisions right now to what degree do you think they're protecting him because it's like yeah they're protecting him but they're also parading this brain dead person out before everyone you know i think i've been thinking a lot about fdr and the media and how the media protected you know fdr's paralysis from the people And if you even go to FDR's website, they'll talk about how if a journalist reported on his weak legs, they'd go after those journalists and shake him down, basically. So how are they protecting Biden? Because they're not hiding his Alzheimer's,

whatever he's got going on, like they used to hide. But what if they are hiding it? This is the best they can do to hide it. Or are they hiding it to a point where they can still get him across the finish line to the next election and then do something some hail mary i with gavin news after 2020 my brain is just jelly like biden's like we're all biden what we've been biden'd no because i think it's fair to say that the general political commentary assessment of the 2020 election was sound, but no one saw the ballot harvesting coming in the procedural changes. So when we're looking at I think the best example is Moody's analytics, which is historically accurate, says the economy is good.

Trump's going to win. And there's actually a slim potential potential for a serious victory for Donald Trump. And then Trump ends up winning all the bellwethers, but loses. He ends up with more votes thanwethers but loses he ends up with more votes than any sitting president and loses which has never happened before so all of these metrics were indicating that trump should have won except for democrats changed the rules were ballot harvesting and operating what time magazine called a shadow campaign which they refer to i'm saying they refer to it time magazine as a conspiracy i could not have seen that time magazine's conspiracy coming

is that article still live yeah it's amazing it's still out that's a time crazy and it quite literally says there was a conspiracy unfolding from corporate executives and politicos to stop trump from winning like trump was calling conspiracy he would technically be right because what we did was crazy no no they literally say it i know they're not even they're not even saying it wasn't they're saying they literally engage in a conspiracy this is how we did it so after that happens i'm kind of like okay no sane human being could think that trump is going to lose this one something we can't predict is going to happen i have no idea or maybe it's just that's it the establishment powers have shattered do you think we make it to an election normally or is there a weird hail

mary thing happening from either side yeah i tend to think we're it to an election normally or is there a weird Hail Mary thing happening from either side? Yeah, I tend to think we're going to. I mean, of course, this is the prediction business. I think that we actually do, as you mentioned, have sort of PTSD from 2020. So we do assume that there's going to be this other shoe to drop. There's going to be this magic door. Yeah, magic door that opens and they're going to get rid of Biden or something spectacular like an assassination could happen. Of course, all within the zone of possibility.

But I think an underrated possibility, if not the likelihood, is that none of this happens. We do get our rematch and that the forces are aligning to make both of them pretty strong. I sort of actually think in a weird way, this was the result that made it most likely that Biden would be the Democratic nominee, i.e. there won't be... He won. Well, they're holding out... Okay, so I'm well on record in saying that I think the Biden replacement thing is like the idea they're going to put Newsom in there as a sort of boomer conspiracy theory. We call that Biden replacement theory but yeah i i think you're you're against that happening before the election or i think it's crazy i mean i mean i mean okay i think biden

like is the president like it's like a real thing there's like a real guy called joe biden okay i already have issues you and me now well i don't know about that i know there are people who think there's he's a hologramram or a deep fake or a clone. It's a glass plate. And they project... Or he's an actor or something. Well, yes, to all those things. We can disagree on that.

All right, there's somebody who bears an awful lot of resemblance occupying the Oval Office right now. No, no, occupying the across-the-street studio replica of the Oval Office. And I do think he is endowed of certain authority of the state and he can do certain things and so while there may be uh a wider rate of people in the american establishment who want him to uh take a hike if he really wants to be persistent in this he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna do it um and i think if he had been indicted it would have undermined uh his case that he is sort of squeaky clean

and that look how much better he is than Trump. So I think it actually bolsters his credibility within the party. But outside of the party, I think this is actually the result that makes him the weakest plausible general election candidate that he could have been. Because it is going to make the republicans look like they are the underdog enemies of the state look at the way the democrats roll they'll indict the republican nominee for 95 different felonies and look at the way the republicans roll which is that they won't weaponize the justice system and however we have this sort

of you know spock like republican prosecutor person just throwing a nice little aside that they think the president of the United States actually isn't capable of executing his duties. And I think it's withering. Like, I think it's bad to be indicted. I think Trump's life is more acutely stressful than Biden's. But in terms of the sympathy of the average voter, Biden looks like a bit of a bully here. And Trump looks like the underdog. What if just on election night or like right before they agree to debate and then quite literally both Trump and Biden just collapse on stage? It's totally possible. I'm not saying both of them.

And we're like, wow, nobody expected that. I mean, I thought Trump was pretty good. But then, like, you know, the argument the democrats have is yeah well trump's old too people don't drop like that as much anymore it's not russia right they don't have they don't have gravity you haven't watched suddenly died then yeah okay yeah no i mean it's just i mean biden had a brain aneurysm in the 80s so his late 40s um Wow. Yeah, yeah. That's young. But he's had like 35 post-brain aneurysm. He's had more post-brain aneurysm years than I have had life.

Right. He had an aneurysm in 87 or 88. I was born in 1990. So he's really had, I mean, they really do keep these guys rolling. Yeah. That's why he plagiarizes all the time. He can't come up with his own stuff.

I got to just keep taking from the past. Well, I actually think this is sort of my pet theory about why his thinking is so obviously garbled. So, Trump sort of just engages in the world by just literally saying whatever he wants, and that's kind of how he's rolled for his entire life.

Bernie Sanders, our other very elderly celebrity politician, he just, you know, he's got a script. It's always the bankers. It's always the overclass. It's always the capitalists. Biden, by contrast, has to quadruple triangulate constantly, you know, which side of the party is not ascendant? What thing can't I say?

And I think, you know, that works when you're in your 40s or your 50s, but it must be super confusing in your ninth decade. Yeah. It's funny because I've been thinking a lot about how Biden was on a Colbert appearance like 10 years ago. Well, no, it was probably 2015 or 2014 before the 2016 election. And I've never liked Joe Biden. I hate the crime bill.

I think he's just a thug and a liar. But I remember feeling a bit of remorse for him in that interview because he talks about grief in a rather compelling way, which is shocking because that's so different than the man we're seeing today. You know, that was a huge one because that interview was so big because he told Colbert, I'm not going to run. And the audience was like, oh, no, not you, too. But, you know, he was capable of speaking not that long ago. It was always very key to his approach. I mean, Trump obviously always has a call to greatness. There's the comedic element or more than an element to Trump.

Obama is this almost like rock star order, you know, very smooth. Biden, rather, you know, I believe it was the NYRB who called, in 2020, who called Biden the country's designated mourner. He does actually have this sort of gear where he's able to say this, you know, sort of language, feel your pain. That's so true. He ropes his own, even his celebrity family, you know, he ropes in his own tragedy to the story.

And one last bit, I do think that it would actually be weirdly, cosmically fitting if Biden were to end his career with an election loss. You got to remember, this is somebody who was elected

to the Senate at 29, which is the youngest you can be. You get to be 30, but he turned 30 after he was Senator-elect. Okay, so he was at U.S. Senate. He loses his wife and daughter in a car accident. He got sworn in at his children's hospital.

By the hospital, the famous picture. Hunter was in that car, injured. He's somebody who thought he was going to be the president in the 80s. He has a train record for a campaign in 1988, a basic train record for a campaign in 1988. A basic train record of a campaign in 2008. Trump famously said that Obama rescued Biden from the scrap heap. He becomes vice president. He does his duty.

He does eight years as VP only to have Obama sideline him and shiv him effectively for Hillary Clinton, who then loses. He becomes president, the oldest president in American history, 35 years after he wanted to be the president. What would be more parallel for his whole life than to actually lose in this unprecedented fashion? My argument would be that he'll actually, my gut says he will not make it. I think he might make it, but real quick,

he always references James Joyce's poem about dying. And I think that's parallel. You're going to say that again. I want to pull this up from NBC News. This is it. The breaking news. As of 7.09 p.m., Biden secures Democratic nomination with majority of delegates. NBC News projects.

That's it. I don't really care, but we all expected it to happen. But this is it. They're saying Joe Biden's going to be the guy. No, look. A few months ago, I predicted Joe Biden would not be the guy that he would drop out. I do not understand the play Democrats have right now with Joe Biden. I don't understand it. And the only thing I can see is there is no play.

You know, like they'll make a move and I'll go, OK, so maybe this is their strategy. The only thing I can think of right now is they're planning ahead. They expect Biden to lose. They don't want to throw in any other Democrat candidates who might actually lose because it could damage their prospects after the next four years. And so at this point, maybe Democrats are like, let's obstruct Trump moving into his second term and let's start preparing for a new backbench that can approach the Democratic Party and go for the nomination in 2028.

Because I do not see a path to victory at all. And, you know, Mike Cernovich tweeted something that I found very serious. He said Trump is too far ahead at this point for 2020 tactics to work. And I agree. And then Cernovich said, so he expects or is worried there would be an assassination on Trump as it's the only thing at this point for 2020 tactics to work and i agree and then cernovich said so he expects or is worried there would be an assassination on trump as it's the only thing at this point which stops a trump victory and a trump victory is probably going to be really really bad for democrats because look trump talked about locking her up and draining the swamp but that was all

pillow talk he was he was trying to you whisper sweet nothings into the ears of his base and as soon as he's elected he goes no no we're not going to do that let's calm down i'd like to introduce you to my good friend john bolton but they knifed him in the back anyway at this point trump's probably like the gloves are off or or maybe not maybe it's one big game but i don't know you know uh you were just saying shane, you think that Joe Biden's referencing this poem and he's not going to make it. Well, I think maybe the logical thing that happens because I could see the replacement thing happening, but I also see like he's a vessel for power for the left and they get him across the finish line and then he either bows out gracefully in quotes, you know, or he drops dead. And then my narrative arc, like what you were saying, but just a little different is that it would be fitting for him to drop dead because his whole career is built around the death, the mourning, the grieving. And in so many speeches, you can go back and look at them. Some of them at funerals, some of them, the one was the last one he did before

being sworn in. He always references James Joyce line about when I die, Dublin will be etched on my heart. and so he would say but when i die you know whatever some whatever town he's claiming to be from that time yeah whichever one he whichever biden we're talking about would be etched across his heart what if the real conspiracy is that trump and biden have been working together this whole time and biden is playing the villain so that america can weed out its enemies see see the thing is the deep state wants trump to win to revitalize american patriotism so that we can become strong again but they know that if they come out and say it you'll get opposition so they play the

opposite side make joe biden the villain but he's secretly working with trump and then you know that's why obama was like you don't have to do this and joe was like i'm gonna become the villain so this country can succeed and so he's gonna you know so the's why Obama was like, you don't have to do this. And Joe Biden was like, I'm going to become the villain so that this country can succeed. And so he's going to, you know. So the deep state is pro patriotism. Yeah. Oh, wow. I don't think I've heard that one before.

My conspiracy theory is that the deep state was like, people hate this country. How do we get them to like it? Well, if we just come out and say America is good, that will embolden the opposition. They all start attacking us. I mean, look at Iraq and Afghanistan. Everybody was like, screw the military industrial complex. So Trump comes in

and represents the underdog anti-establishment, make America great again. But the bad guys who hate, who push all the most awful things, who make garbage movies, who insult this country, eventually push everyone, including Gen Z,

into the hands of American patriots so i mean look when you got gen z being like yeah i'm voting for trump and the latest poll was like 65 thought that trump would do well i'm kidding i don't actually think the deep state is trying to prop up trump but i'm like if you were trying to prop up trump what would you do different they just can't stop doing what they're doing they're're like, I got an idea. How do we get an entire generation to want to support America, secure its borders, and defend its international interests? Give away the inheritance of Gen Z to non-citizens.

Yeah. And then they revolt, and you build an entire generation of people who are like MAGA. Yeah, also lock them up for a couple years. Don't let them, put them online only and then tank the economy so they feel really frustrated. What would you do different?

And Joe Biden, I mean, they were like, we need someone deeply, deeply unlikable. Someone who is seen on camera groping women and sniffing children, who's got a history

of family corruption and is just plainly not cool and just totally, just totally unlikable and they're like we'll make him the villain and then we'll get the celebrity that everyone loved up until he ran like it just that's that's the only conspiracy there that makes sense at this point otherwise the uniparty is just failing i don't know many people who many progressive or democrats who say like no i think joe biden's great guy i really respect i don't know many people who many progressive or democrats who say like no i think joe biden's a great guy i

really respect i don't know many people who talk like that but i do know a lot of people who don't like trump so in some ways i think this idea that joe biden is the villain works for a certain sect of people but i think for other people there is no way to spin trump as anything other than awful and they won't that you could put an actual sock puppet in joe biden's spot and they'd be like probably would do a better job i just heard from a friend who said they're voting for biden to save democracy and they said it with a straight face yeah but they don't like they're not saying i'm voting for biden because i think he's inspirational because he's got great policies because he represents the kind of man that we'd like to see in america they're just like well yeah no trump

yeah that's all it is i do think he's necessary though i mean i i'm not sure i fully agree i think he's the strongest possible democratic nominee really that's not saying you think more so than like i and i don't like this person at all but more so than a gavin yeah i do i mean i think i mean i well first of all i mean he's the you can't underrate that it's a sheer name recognition of biden right i mean he's been he's been in politics for 50 years he's run for president three times. Obama spinoff. Yeah. This will be the fourth national ballot he's appeared on. Right. Right. He's as vice president twice. And I think it's absolutely necessary for the essential

fiction of the pitch that they're presenting forward, which is that the Democrats are actually are not a radical party. They have this sort of kindly old white man centrist from 1995, and it's very critical in these suburban districts that he's not that scary. If they put someone like Gavin Newsom, for instance, the entire election will instantly become a referendum on California. And so they will run endless needle pictures from San Francisco. And I think people

understand that California is terribly run. That it's the ruination of paradise. But what about Michelle Obama? Was she particularly likable in office? I mean, I think this is, everyone's being sort of memory hold on this. No, I just... She was not a very,

I don't think her approval rating was that high as First Lady. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, I thinkiden is clearly a better politician i feel like uh gavin's been trying to clean up his act and people do have unfortunately a short memory i think he's i think he's savvy i think he's he's he's i'm not under underrating him but i think there's two main problems one the california albatross which they will run on and trump will like running on it. And then number two, it is not demonstrated. We talked about how narrow the margins were in 2020. It is not demonstrated that Newsom, especially somebody who did not go to the primary. The primary is over.

It is not demonstrated that Newsom has a particular relationship with African-American voters. That is going to be the key for the turnout of the Democrats. Is Newsom going to be able to turn out black voters in phoenix milwaukee detroit philadelphia atlanta and vegas and black voters love joe biden because when he said if you don't vote for me you're not black they were like well that he literally got away with that literally with that like i don't think newsom would get away with that what do you think of um dean phillips campaign because he tried to spin himself as like the future the moderate you know an alternative to sort of a drifting Joe Biden administration. I think if you care to watch Phillips' interview, like there's a Phillips interview with Bill Maher, he's actually pretty smooth.

And he's young and he's successful. But he got 1%. So I think Phillips is essentially mini Gavin Newsom. I think Newsom would run against, would hit a similar wall. I have a simple answer to your question about why not Dean Phillips? And it's who?

It wasn't not why not Dean Phillips, it's what did you think of his campaign? That was his slogan. Who? He literally said who. I think it was the picture. He ran out. Yeah, he was open to the fact that he like

thought maybe he could win, but also acknowledge it was a long shot. And I think he's interesting because we had several prominent politicians come out and sort of argue the moderate ticket. Right. This is what Manchin was saying. Maybe I could be a unity ticket in a couple of years. And Dean Phillips didn't opt to run as an independent like JFK. He ran as a Democrat saying we need a change. And he immediately backed Joe Biden as soon as he entered his campaign. You know the problem with these politicians? Dean Phillips could have easily become the frontrunner. I strongly

believe that any... That's the guy who made Talenti. That's so popular. Maybe not Newsom, but Dean Phillips could if he did something like, I don't know, handcuff himself to the doors of the Twitter HQ in New York or something like that. Or XCorp. And what I mean is he did no like, I don't know, handcuff himself to the doors of the Twitter HQ in New York or something like that or X Corp. And what I mean is he did no big bang

PR moves. Nothing. So it's almost like, did you really try dude? Because Laura Loomer handcuffed herself to Twitter HQ at the time and made herself the number one, I think, worldwide trend on the platform that banned her. And then she took illegal

immigrants, sorry, criminal aliens, and jumped over Nancy Pelosi's walls. I'm not suggesting Dean Phillips literally wide trend on the platform that banned her she and and then she took illegal immigrants sorry criminal aliens and jumped over nancy posey's walls i'm not suggesting dean phillips literally take criminal aliens and jump into nancy place house i'm saying he did nothing to do a big bang here i am on the stage he literally i guess i didn't even know his slogan was who he was his his his his plan was i will uh revel in the fact that i am an unknown and have no chance whatsoever in any way i think he was gambling that biden was going to collapse and i think he was also he was uber flattered by the wall street money i mean bill ackman that sort of you know very famous wall street tycoon threw money at him i think they

thought some sort of organic um groundswell would occur and it didn't happen and but and i think that's my point if he did anything see i think he's trying to soft get out in front of newsom he doesn't challenge biden too directly but he does want to set the stage for you know 2028 when possibly he has more name recognition because he ran now true true fair point we won't be talking but also what if you? I don't think we'll be talking about Mr. Phillips in 2028. Do respect to the congressman. What if he took those suction cup things and climbed Trump Tower? That could have worked.

Everyone would know his name then. Do you think you could suction cup climb Trump Tower? Me? Yeah. I mean, if it was like life or death. It's the presidency or not. Is that enough of a motivation? I would run run from trump tower i don't want to go anywhere near the presidency but for someone like dean phillips again i'm not i it's it's meant to be

a bit tongue-in-cheek and silly my point is he did nothing on the level of climbing with suction cups remember that guy who did that i was there in new york i went there to watch he's a pro though right which one yeah yeah he does it for like oh no no i think i was there when the guy i think i was there when the guy climbed the tower desperately trying to talk to trump he was like i'm a big fan i'm a trump supporter i need to talk to him this guy had some suction cup skills right i don't think i i don't think you actually need skills i would want some training yeah i need to know no no no for sure what i mean is like i'm sure he learned how to use them i don't think he was like a pro suction cup guy and he made it because you just you you press the button and then it's like it doesn't move and then you just are you cemented to the cup right

that's the hard part is keeping your hands like this like ice clambers they yeah i suppose if i'm glued to it but you're standing make it to trump you're standing these things glues your hand no you're standing you're standing straight up okay And you can lift it and kick it. Yeah. Okay, this is more... Anyway, why are we talking about this? A good suggestion for Dean Phillips if he wants to make his name...

We're trying to help him out. Get a skywriter to write Dean Phillips. I mean, anything, dude. Yeah, yeah. But so what do you think happens? Well, so then what? Do you think Trump wins? What do you think?

The general election? Yeah. I think it is Trump's to lose. I think they've got to be super careful though because i think something could happen the next eight months and so um what are the republicans offering i mean if they if they keep uh to the baseline issues that won him the uh the nomination the presidency in 16 and in my view, that is immigration, trade, and foreign policy. And they messes discipline that to the hills, the border. Jobs going to China, and we should get out of these foreign wars.

He will win the election. If it is a hodgepodge of weird Republican hobby horses, and there's no mess of discipline, honestly closer to the 2020 effort, right? I mean, it was kind of doomed from the keep America. CAG, remember this? It's CAG. CAG, he's better as an opposition candidate.

Yeah. I mean, he's a poster. He's a critic. He always was, even before Twitter. This is naturally advantageous for him, and the indictments themselves do seem to have sharpened him. I mean, we were commenting before the show, the man's lost weight. He seems funnier than he did four years ago. His mood seems elevated. Most people who have been indicted 95 times, I feel

like, would be near. They have a funny sense of view on life. Trump thrives on this. And so if he can stay disciplined, I mean, even the tone that he struck after winning the Iowa caucus, it was very magnanimous. He talked about his father-in-law back in Slovenia. I believe the man's wife had just died. I mean, it was statesman-like. But if it is just like this whirlwind of complaints and then one weird Republican initiative after another where they get mired into talking about, you know, tax cuts for the rich or cutting Social Security.

It's going to make Trump's brand less independent for the GOP. Trump is stronger than the Republican brand himself. Let's jump to this story. We have a tweet from Libs of TikTok. This is interesting. Libs tweets. Whoa. Whoa, Biden reportedly invited TikTok influencers to State of the Union and gave them a list of talking points to create content on to spread propaganda for him and boost him. Check out. I'll play just a little bit of this video.

Joe Biden invited 70 influencers to view his State of the Union address in order to. I was one of the 70 influencers that was invited. So let me spill the tea with you. So I got this message, I want to say on monday night so i got an email from an agency and i saw the people that were cc'd on and i didn't recognize any of the other email addresses that were cc'd on to this invite so essentially they were like we'd love to have you at this like watch party blah blah but they just said it was like a watch party for the state of union address blah blah whatever it's called so i'm not super political on this platform for one reason

i'm gonna skip over the next part she just talks about work content and stuff is when biden which is what this original creator was talking about was when biden was like yo if tiktok is gonna get banned i would totally sign on that hard stop right i was like oh no absolutely not after biden used tiktok to campaign certain things recently anyway so i I was like, you're full of crap. So I don't go. Right. And I just kind of leave it on read. And then right at that time to the agency was like, here's all the concept briefs of your posting. And so that's something that we do as influencers when we have brand deals and we have sponsorships, we have these things called concept briefs. And it's all these approved talking points that we can make videos about afterwards. I didn't know that posting was like asked. It wasn't asked in the original invite. Felt really gross about it. So I was like, oh,

is there like a budget for this? Like this has to be like wildly talked about with my team. Like we're not really going through this like right now, an hour before the fucking event. This is crazy. So they're like, no, we don't have a posting requirement. We just really encourage everyone to do that. So then I've been getting emails like since the event to like post on one of these talking points. I haven't answered any of them. So on all platforms that I have, TikTok and Instagram and all these things, right, I have about a little bit over 400K followers. Pretty small in the grand scheme of public figures that you all know today. So if you think about my size of following, I was invited to this to basically boost Joe Biden and his voice. Think about the people that you look up to that are high public

figures that all of a sudden get into political activism. Think about if it's actually authentic or not, or if they're getting things out of it, they're being celebrated to do that, they're being paid to do that, right? Think about that. So we we had the famous moment it was the 2016 campaign when casey nystat who is the godfather of the modern vlog endorsing hillary clinton and he went on later uh to say he regretted doing it and i can only assume it's paid marketing they agencies say we want you to advertise this message and we will pay you a lot of money so i do think it's fascinating uh as for the concept briefs thing i i have not i'm unfamiliar with that i've been working in this industry for i mean i've been in the internet for a long time working with sponsored stuff for 13 years and i i've not heard that phrase concept

brief i suppose i've and i've gone to like brand meetings where we talk about like content that could be made i was never referred to that way i don't know i've heard it before but only for like here is a specific like water bottle you're promoting and here are the things you should point out yeah but but we we we get sponsored spots and we're just told like i've no one's ever said here's your concept brief to me they say like we have content we want made and and here's what it is so i i understand what she's saying i just i don't know i think it's probably semantics we get told things like here are five things we think are great about the product put it in your own words is usually what we're told so i think that's basically what you're referring

to and maybe i don't know hers is more of an official mainstream like ad agency stuff so that's why they use the term i'm not familiar with but there it is for you ladies and gentlemen 400 000 followers i i wonder what the budget was i wonder how much she was offering she didn't say did she i don't think she mentioned how much money they were offering her this is the secret though when she mentions that think of the higher profile people and what they're paid to i don't think or whether it's authentic or not i don't think they're paid actually when celebrities say stuff like you got to vote for biden it's more so they want to get invited to the party when someone has like 400k followers that's the real target because in the event that any one of them talks like this

irrelevant this is one person with 400k followers sure fine but it won't go viral you choose one guy with a billion followers you know like 30 million followers and if they decide they don't like you and they go and go yo this dude's trying to pay me to endorse him screw that guy backfire you find 70 influencers that have a couple hundred k a couple million i mean look she got 400k there were 70 influencers they're targeting about 30 million and when she comes out and says that was me how many people actually know or care this video from lives of tiktok has 171 000 views so that's the point you want a shotgun blast spread out to minimize backlash and maximize reach.

Modern politics, I guess. They gave all the YouTubers an attitude for showing up to the White House. I think even you were there. Remember when Trump invited the YouTubers and social media people to the White House? I don't think it was YouTubers. Oh, it wasn't? I thought it was a lot of YouTubers. So it was a lot of just personalities who were invited

to go to the social media summit i don't think there were a lot of youtubers but i didn't probably invited youtubers uh i went because i was friends with bill ottman who was ceo of minds.com right and minds was invited to participate in the social media conference and then i just think it's funny how much grief everyone got from that and now this stuff like this is happening they're like on the left they want this they're like they should be paid harry sasson should be paid all these people the krasinski's i don't know what they're up to but biden's constantly pulling in influencers i mean this is a big part of his youth outreach i mean let's not forget i cannot remember the guy's name but he did this video that went viral he was saying a day in life if someone works at the

white house it was jim when jen pis was still there. And the right hated it. The left loved it. They had, I mean, they got tons of exposure for their pride celebration. But again, the right was like, why do you have topless trans people on the lawn? I already forgot about that. You know, I mean, I don't know how effective influencer marketing really is for the Biden campaign, except they think they just push enough. The good will outweigh the bad.

They'll talk to enough people. And I'm not an expert in the field. I can't say on the numbers like what that's doing for them. I just know that a lot of the time when we see these sort of weird cultural cracks in the Biden administration, it's often delivered to us through influencers who they have invited to events. I mean, remember they invited Dylan Mulvaney to the White House to talk about, about you know trans day of visibility women's issues i i think i think it's all backfiring on them i mean you look at the polls gen z is for trump i think it's the economy stupid so you can play these games all day and night and get your influencers and sure you'll find weird culty young people who are you know what i think i think a lot of there's a lot of young

people who are going online i mean look at this she says i don't really get political her channel is about the the frustrations of corporate america and then she's like like basically biden bad is the general thesis here i think that you might find there are going to be influencers who say things like yeah you know i totally agree with that and then as soon as they hang up their phone turn the camera off or whatever they go no way i'm voting trump i'll tell you this the one one of the most offensive things that i've heard quite a bit is that there are prominent celebrities who are anti-trump who are privately bragging about voting for him it's it's for real and it's not my place to name these individuals because i have sources who are insistent on not exposing who these individuals are, which I I'm I'm not a fan of.

But I have to respect the privacy of the individuals who are revealing the information and, you know, keep them out of harm's way. But there are people who are celebrities in Hollywood who hit me up and they'll say things like, hey, this dude is a huge Trump supporter. And then I'm like, but he's on he's going on shows and tvs saying trump is bad they're like oh yeah but he wants the money he wants the tax cuts he wants trump like it's all about reputation for them yep and i think it depends on what what the influencer the person is doing like i remember there was a um a sleep consultant like mommy lifestyle however her instagram account was taking care of care like the woman's name babies and i knew i knew people i went to high school with who paid for her like sleep training manual or something like that and then it came out that her family had donated like she

and her husband had been contributing to trump's campaign and there was an effort to boycott her this is i think during 2020 and i i don't even know if she ever addressed it but it was interesting that's like she's giving you legitimate information that's completely non-political. I mean, I guess children in some ways are political, but like, this is how you help your child learn to get into the rhythm of sleeping. And you want to boycott her,

not because you don't like her product, not because you think she promotes anything dangerous, but because she privately, without mentioning it on her platform, donated to Trump. Political opinions immediately invalidated anything a person has said before. Right. it's so

crazy that it went that level like if she was promoting some sort of political agenda i could get it but this is completely irrelevant to the thing you're upset about the thing that you're like burner the product you're buying from her crazy remember when mark zuckerberg had barbecue sauce on his shelf i question that i don't question someone's political opinions i'm like if if there's like someone who i'm thinking about this woman who's talking about taking care of babies or whatever it is opinions. I'm like, if there's like someone who, I'm thinking about this woman who's talking about taking care of babies or whatever it is. And then you passively find out

there's like a Trump hat in the background and they're like, oh, everything she's ever done is called into question. I'm like, well, the Trump hat I get. It's the barbecue sauce on the shelf I don't get. Well, that just is deranged. Whereas this is like. What is wrong with this man?

Well, it's just weird. Like for a while after that, Brett Dasvix, who's on Pop Culture Crisis, I would like bring him my Sweet Baby Ray's like barbecue packages. It's like for you, my friend. Okay. Like to be honest, like maybe he went grocery shopping and he like.

He just put it on his bookshelf. Right. He put on his bookshelf for some reason. What? You think his bookshelf is so close to his kitchen that he got confused? Like did he short circuit? I don't, I don't buy this at all. But again.

Okay. See, that sparks debate. Like someone having a Trump adage, be like, oh,iden had to go oh yeah i get that i understand the motivations and ideas behind those things i wouldn't i if i'm watching a guy and he's like here's how you apply like vinyl flooring and then he's like it's like playing elevator music as he's like take the vinyl flooring piece and click it in before pressing it down and he's wearing a biden shirt i'd be like well yeah i get it i don't care i mean he's helping me put my floor together right but but man people but he probably put it together wrong and biasly because he voted for biden you know actually that's the equivalent

of what they said about this like girl who's giving you parenting advice like well probably she's going to make your child a white supremacist because she privately supports trump here's here's this is no i mean i think this is obviously an investment in two ideas. One, the Democrats have now become the party that believes that polling might not work. So let's rewind 2012. Do you remember the term poll bias? The Republicans had this entire cottage industry that basically tried to, quote, unskew the polls. There was a guy called the unskewthepolls.com thing.

No, I don't know. This is the sort of- 12 years ago. 12 years ago. This is the extreme end of why Romney HQ thought that we would win the election. That basically the polls are fake and there's poll bias against Republicans. And so if there's a poll that says that Obama's up two, the Republicans are really up four or something like this.

Because people were being canceled even back then up for, or something like this, that because, you know, people were being canceled even back then for being Republicans or something like that. They're saying the poll bias. Right. Right. Right. Right.

Yeah. And then in 2016, uh, uh, after the 2012 was basically the polling was right, more or less, uh, the Democrats,

you know, Uber believed, uh, that, uh, they would, you know, hold the white house and the Republicans, even the elite Republicans, didn't believe that Trump would win or particularly the elite Republicans.

Trump won. And this cycle kind of repeated, assuming that the Republicans were understated in both the polls. In 2020, Trump was understated in both the polls. It was meaningful enough in 2016 that he became the president. Fast forward, 2024, the Democrats, the shoe is totally on the other foot. Trump is in his strongest polling position that he has been since a politician.

I mean, it's unbelievable. His name recognition has never been higher. And you would think that Americans would have had their minds made up one way or the other on Mr. Trump. Not so. He is at the highest point. He's at the apex of his polling career. It's subtle. These are thousands of votes in small states, but he's in the whip position, in command post, politically speaking. Accordingly, the Democrats have to invest in another idea, the power of advertising. We don't know if any of this stuff is going to work,

but it doesn't mean that people have to vote for Biden. They just have to merely convince people to stay home. And I think that's what you're seeing with this sort of subtle entreaties. Additionally, Biden's own conception of young people is like everybody under 65 or 55 or 40. I mean, he really has no idea. I mean, boomers, baby boomers themselves still treat millennials as if they are like 18. This, I don't know how old this particular influencer is, but if she's Gen Z, I believe she's like 22, 23. It's utterly pedantic. And in some ways, influencers often fall into this trap themselves. I mean, there's a bit of a verbal tick that she said,

the State of the Union address or whatever, like her lack of confidence. She actually got it right. Like, why did you say the State of the union address um and i think it creates this complex where they think they they can profit this seems like spilling the tea and leaving them on red all all the ginseng slaying and it's more transparent advertising whereas like when obama was doing it he was adopting this new tech and it seemed like right you know genuine to everyone because oh look he's no we're much more nihilistic, cynical age.

Yeah, yeah, totally. No one's buying it like they were back then. I mean, the Obama campaign slogan was forward. Pope. Forward in 2012. Open change in 2008. And then when everything wasn't so great in that first term, it was just like, well, forward. Forget that.

Yeah. This is an interesting concept you brought up, though, that boomers still treat millennials like they're 18 yes and yeah absolutely obviously not every single boomer but many of them and there was a meme for a while where millennials were like boomers we're 40 we're 40 years old and but for some reason the narrative coming out of a lot of these um old school like media people still have control of the reins while they do was that like, why are millennials like this or like that? And the response from millennials were like, I'm 38 years old. I don't know why you're talking to me like this. Well, and if they are like this or that, I'm largely thinking it's because we have a boomer class that said you're all children so we expect you to act that way so they roast the occasion and acted like children and didn't take on responsibilities and don't

want to have families and want to be in sort of perpetual young adulthood adolescence for a long time i mean maybe boomers should take some responsibility for some of our cultural woes here it's pretty wild you know for for the longest time millennials were i i just generally the concept that the boomers for whatever reason view themselves as adults and one of the things that's really fascinating to me is whenever i find myself in a situation with someone who's older they say you're very young and i'm like i am 38 like i am like quite literally life expectancy in this country is 73 for males so you know when i jokingly say I'm halfway there, it's like only a half joke.

And then I have older people boomers say, oh, get out of here. You're a young man and stuff like that. I'm 38, dude. I'm not young. They're saying that to convince themselves otherwise. Right. I was going to say, if you're not young, then they are very, very old. Self-justifying for their power.

Yeah. I mean, if you're going to run a geriatric society, you have to have this idea like, well, they'll get their turn. So what do you call it? Geriocratic? Gerontocratic. Gerontocracy. Gerontocracy.

Rule by the old. So the conjugation would be gerontocratic. This is what we currently have going on. It's become a joke where there's a meme where it's an old lady and she says something like, when I was your age, we used to listen to 8-track. And then the young woman goes, that's nice let me get you to senate like it is yeah like you know we got bring in the wheelchair okay it's there was one joke where it's like i can't remember which comedian did this but he was like you know my my grandfather is getting on in his in his in his in his in his life and his memory is not so good we find him struggling to walk and he's not using a wheelchair so we think it's time to put him in congress and so but but for real like

for why is this happening that in the united states we have this stunted generational world look we we talk about how i've jokingly said that uh time stopped in the 90s or the 90s were the last decade after after the 90s everything started to bleed into one and boomers have maintained and again i'm not ragging on the entirety of the boomer generation but many many baby boomers in positions of power maintained that they are adults and millennials are children and now we are quite literally experiencing very much so many millennials who act like children who talk about, you know, they're in their 30s. It's like Seth Rogen. I mean, he's a man child.

I'm not trying to be a dick to him, but he is. He's like Saturday morning. I'm going to sleep in all day. And what's her face? She's and he's Gen X. Chelsea Handler. Chelsea Handler. Yeah.

Permanent children who have been like, there is no responsibility that I should have to engage in. I accept nothing. Look, as the saying goes, society grows great when, I believe the saying was when old men plant trees, but we'll say old people because we're very progressive, plant trees whose shade they know they will never sit beneath. But we're quite literally at the point where people like seth rogan people who are in their uh early to late to mid 40s now gen x and older millennials are quite literally saying don't look at me i'm gonna party until the sun comes

down what does that mean for the future of this country it's deforming for everybody i mean this is not it's not normal i mean the man is too old for for this office joe biden i think so oh come on look diane feinstein yeah didn't even know she was hospitalized she was like what do you mean i've been here the whole time and they're like ma'am you were in the hospital how long was in the hospital for three months or something no longer it was longer than three months and then she did this long rehab rehab and stuff. Correct. Right. She also, her team put out a statement saying she is going to resign. And then later was like, I didn't say that to a reporter. And they had to be like, no, yes, you did.

I got to be honest. Maybe it's that boomers are right. And millennials are children. Yes, but boomers have original sin. They're the ones who did it first. So, I mean, we might be bearing the symptoms of this. But you mean they cast the first stone that millennials help i mean there's not a conspiracy but like the reality the reality

is i think you i mean we have a leadership class mr biden is an affluent individual feinstein was a million multi-millionaire i believe and the reality is it's not like uh people are going to have these strokes or die this stuff all happens but they can keep older, wealthier Americans in general alive and kicking for like 30 years longer. But are you saying that boomers refusing to hand over the reign in society resulted in stunted millennials? Yes, absolutely. There's been no changing of the guard. I mean, go back to 2008 when Mr. Biden was elected as vice president. One of the qualifications that was cited was that, oh, there's no way Biden will run for president in 2016.

He ran for president in 2020. Yeah. I mean, so, I mean, like— But he didn't run in 2016. But no, no, no. Hold on. Touche. What's stopping millennials from rising to the occasion?

I think they're refusing. I think they refuse to do it. Well, I mean, but they—I mean, first of all, the older generations have most of the wealth and most of the name recognition. I mean, because they had these positions of power. There's been no change of the guard. I mean, this is totally historical. In 2000, 1960, Kennedy's elected president. Kennedy runs against Nixon.

Everybody forgets Nixon and Kennedy at the same age, even though Nixon looked a lot more haggard than the model aesthetics of Kennedy. And it was a clear move. This is the first generation that had served in the infantry in World War II. Eisenhower, his predecessor, had been a general. JFK had been a soldier. It proceeded from there. Kennedy and Reagan were the same age.

Reagan looked a lot older because he became the president 20 years later. H.W. was the last of that generation. 30 years, big generation, longest period of time, H.W. to Clinton. That's the beginning of the boomers. Clinton is the great sort of center-left boomer president, and George W. Bush is the great sort of center-right boomer president. Then it transferred to Obama, who is technically boomer but kind of codes Gen X Obama, who is technically boomer, but kind of codes Gen X. It's controversial. There should have been a handoff then.

What do we do then? We actually go back 15 years. Hillary Clinton is born in 1947. Trump, for all that is good to be said about him, is 1946. He's a silent generation, right? He's boomer. Early boomer. This is weird knowledge

but george w bush clinton and trump are all born within 60 days of each other in the summer of 1946 obama's obama's one statistic obama's a boomer obama is technically a boomer but he pretends he's not but i feel like he codes gen x right right he's hip he's cool he likes children yeah right well his kids are younger like for instance like take another you know david dukovny the x files actor of course do you does he seem more boomer or gen x well i watch twin peaks so i know he's older me too okay but he i feel like he feels a little bit gen x it's it's sort of bs-y but like my point is like the early 60 uh birthday people can often code that way as opposed to the core boomer people are generally the people who have been born in the 1950s.

What year was Trump born? 1946. So he's actually a boomer. All three, Bush, Clinton, and Trump are boomers. And Biden was born in 1942. He's silent generation. And they're all born in the same hospital. 1946 is the first year of boomers. I'm sorry. The generations do

vary depending on what source you're using. I just googled it. The first one that comes up is 1946 is baby boomer. I don't think Trump's actually all that boomer in his approach. He's actually not that optimistic and not that supportive of the decisions made in this country for the last 50

years. That's why his tone is super different than Bush or Clinton's. His tone is different than Mitt Romney's. It's a fundamental like yeah you know like we did globalization and that was all very good trump is even as far back as 1988 when he was first running for president first flirting running for president you can go back to see the the oprah winthrop show i think it's 87 88 trump this is this is the reagan years i mean like people really liked reagan right he won 49 states

like he's saying like actually the Japanese are crushing us. Everything's kind of bad. We shouldn't really be off offshoring all these jobs. This is, this is a, you know, the 45 year old Trump. You know, my, my, I'm, I'm younger than a lot of people who've actually experienced all, all this stuff, or I've, I'm literally younger than the people who experienced Reagan and all that. But I, it actually sounds to me like the only reason Reagan won is because Carter was because

of Carter. And the real reason was because of interest rates. It was just, what were they at like 20 or whatever it was very high yeah it's very very high yeah higher than today yeah so you look uh the federal reserve could could decide who they want to be president by just cranking up the interest rates and spiking the incumbent yeah i mean i think probably but it's usually this sort of like super jujitsu tango tango tango between the fed chair and spiking the incumbent. Yeah, I mean, I think probably, but it's usually this sort of like super jujitsu tango, tango between the Fed chair and the president. Right, right. I mean, there is the sort of like left-wing conspiracy is that I believe it was Don Regan,

the treasury secretary and Donald Trump, not Donald Trump, Ronald Reagan, hauled Paul Volcker in and like sort of intimidated him. And of course, eventually they got rid of Volcker and replaced him with Greenspan, who was, who was the low interest rate guy. Yeah.

So can I ask you a question? I love this. Uh, all of our presidents are boomers and now they're definitely not letting anyone through. Yeah. Do we have a silent generation? The only way to be the boomers is to go older.

Do we have a class or on either side of the aisle of Gen X politicians? I mean, we do have some millennial, but if all of the boomers are holding all of the spots in power, do we even have anyone to replace them? Are there that many options? There aren't even cadres. I mean, I think you're getting, forgive me if I misinterpretinterpreting your question, the result of this gerontocracy is that there aren't as many people that have the sort of mid-high-ranking jobs and have the normal pedigrees to take people on. Right.

So I think that's kind of what you're getting. Even Biden's cabinet is strangely constructed. So Jake Sullivan, the National Security Advisor, who I believe is a millennial, you can search it. No. And Antony Blinken, or he's very late gen x jake sullivan's got to be gen x i think he might be a gen x is sullivan is 76 okay and blinken i think is gen x yeah sullivan's 47 okay but he looks okay blinken blinken is definitely gen x i I'm pretty sure. You could argue they had effective chaperones in their roles.

So Susan Rice was the previous National Security Advisor. Older, also had a West Wing office. No, Blinken's a boomer. How old? 61. That's part of the weird Gen X coding boomer. They're pretending they're not. You're going to have to go with my framework.

No, no, no. He's a boomer. He's literally a boomer. A boomer is 46 to 64. But my argument essentially was that, I don't get mired in this, but like the early 60s birthdays have this sort of strange, same thing with 70 to 82. Yeah, he was born in 62. 64 is the same age as Obama.

It's like you get the millennial Zoomer right now. Right. Because I see it. What is 1997? It's technically millennial, but it could pass as Zoomer. Or 1996, technically millennial, could pass as Zoomer, in my opinion. It all because I see it. What is 1997? It's technically millennial, but it could pass as Zoomer. Or 1996, technically millennial, could pass as Zoomer, in my opinion.

It all depends how you code. Certain people want to code old or certain people want to code younger. It's complex. Yeah, like Seamus Coughlin, for instance, might as well be Silent Generation. But I am a Zoomer

because I was born in 95. No, millennial, millennial. I know. I'm just kidding. We're taking this too seriously. Well, okay, so what's Pete Buttigieg? Is he. I'm taking this too seriously. Well, okay. So what's Pete Buttigieg? Is he our only...

He's Millennial. So he's our only Millennial cabinet member. No, AOC. Cabinet member. AOC is not a cabinet member. Are you talking about cabinet members? You were talking about the cabinet members, so I'm building on that. Buttigieg is definitely the only Millennial cabinet member.

So, but we... I think there's a... AOC is not in the cabinet? Wait, I'm just kidding. Actually, this would be an interesting list. Maybe we could produce it, and maybe it already exists, a list of Congress showing a graph percentage of generations in Congress. The median age of Congress would be, I think, in the low 60s.

Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Which historically would have been in the 40s or 30s. You know what's fascinating? It's complex. I mean, the Civil War war people just died so i mean like it's it's not just politics i was i was i read a meme and it said that uh during the apollo missions the people working in houston were on average like 25 26 years old and today they're

like 48 yeah we don't go to the moon anymore but that's so weird but but it's not just that it's working in in aerospace and and nasa it's not all bad but i think there's just effectively uh a real price to be paid for not taking the talents of people in their physical prime 25 to 40 or something like that just saying like you're still a child it's bad for it's bad for everybody everything seems delayed like everyone's having kids later literally everything's delayed and then lockdowns stopped it maybe stop on top of the delay but i wonder lockdown is the most boomer thing i wonder it's it's it's boomer protection stay in your living room but i wonder if it's because of the economic issues that 2008 stops for a few years something for a few years 2020 stops everything for a few years yes yeah the younger generation inherited just trash

which definitely accelerated the non-acceleration of their lives yeah bad things have happened throughout history what is what is new about this is generally okay there have been i don't there are great baby boomers but i think this is this is clearly a fail they made star trek the next generation baby boomers are awesome millions Millions of people, they did some cool stuff. But I think what is different about this situation is that you have

an overclass that isn't going away. Like George W. Bush, the worst president in American history. George W. Bush? I don't know about that. He's the worst president in American history. Not Woodrow Wilson? Yeah. If the standard is the country he inherited, Mr. President, here's the file of the United States of America in 2001 versus the file that he handed Barack Obama in 2009. I'm not aware of a president. Look, a war in Europe was going to happen.

Whether or not the U.S US was getting involved is a debate. But I don't think the country in 1920 was radically worse off than it had been from 1912. And of course, the economy boomed after Wilson left office. I mean, we got the creation of Federal Reserve. Patriot Act. Well, no, no. Oh, I'm talking about Bush. We got to pick our lane here.

But yeah. No, no, we can debate on it. But I'm just saying, like, I think it's almost an above ideological statement to say that George W. Bush did a really, really bad job. here but yeah we can debate on it but i'm just saying like like i think it's almost an uh above ideological statement to say that george w bush did a really really bad job even even if you're a deep conservative i think you had to see yeah but i mean he thinks that i mean oh i don't like bush i don't even want to defend him but i also don't like wilson my point is though i mean we still have to listen okay if you thought wilson was the worst president buchanan james i i think

there was a whole succession of presidents in the 1850s that were quite bad, but the Civil War might have been inevitable. I don't think the Iraq War was inevitable. I don't. I agree. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I think it was an elective war of choice. Yes.

So, versus you could make the argument without Buchanan, the Civil War would have happened, whether it happened earlier or later, like it was moving, versus it is not clear to me that any other president would have decided to electively go into Iraq. Yeah. Fair point. Fair point. Yeah.

So, but the whole point is though, even if you thought Wilson was the worst president in American history, he had the decency to die in 1924 versus we still have, we still have to, we still have to hear what George W. Bush thinks about Ukraine, which he can't even keep track of.

And then we have to watch him paint on Kimmel. Remember he can't even no no no no no no that that freudian slip when he said oh launching an unjust war in iraq okay oh he can't even we have to listen to this alleged wise man and meanwhile he can't even keep track of which country he wants to invade democrats view him favorably now. That's what's so weird to me is the Uniparty gave him some type of redemption arc. They won't do that for Trump in 20 years. He was seen sitting with Ellen DeGeneres at a baseball game. Oh, he did all of it.

Although, who knows? Were they always picture family? We'd be sitting in the 2030s. We're like, man, Tucker Carlson is the worst president ever. Donald Trump looks like. Let's jump to this next story. This is big news. uh what we're just talking about with tiktok the post millennial reports rumble makes offer to buy and operate tiktok in the u.s quote in the event that bite dance divest its ownership and tiktok rumble

stands ready to join a consortium with other parties seeking to acquire and operate tiktok inside the united states that's the solution what should happen right now is that all tiktok inside the united states that's the solution what should happen right now is that all tiktokers should be calling for rumble to acquire and operate tiktok it would save the platform it would help fix a lot of the platform's problems it would prevent the platform from being shut down most importantly and with the unanimous approval uh from which which committee was it that was it it was like unanimously approved in the House Commerce Committee. Yeah, the committee. They did commerce, right?

Unanimously approved this bill, which would force TikTok to divest from their Chinese investors, become an American company. The interesting thing is, so this bill, the proposing I was wrong the other day when we were we were talking about how it would give the president the power to declare a website or app for an adversary. I was under the impression it was specifically TikTok. That appears to not be the case. If a website, app, operator otherwise is being run or is associated with an adversary to the United States, then they can activate severance and seize control or shut it down. That is very, very bad. And we should not support this. I think it's important that everybody reads through it. Thomas Massey tweeted about it because it would shut down VPNs.

It would shut down Telegram. It wouldn't just shut down TikTok. It would shut down any chance you have of speaking freely outside the control of the U.S. government. It would effectively put a glass dome over the United States in terms of your communication abilities, which is quite literally what we're trying to avoid when we're critical of TikTok is TikTok has a Chinese interest doming over all those people on TikTok, and we want a free and open internet. However, I do believe that TikTok operating under Rumble would solve my biggest concern,

which is the egregious censorship on the platform. TikTok is the worst platform for censorship that we've experienced. So I'm for this, but I'm wondering what you guys would think will happen with TikTok. Do you think they're going to actually ban it? Do you think TikTok will be forced to divest or what? I think TikTok is going to go screaming to the end. They don't think they're going to give up until they absolutely have to. And I don't know what the fate of this bill is really going to be. I think there has been a really fair level of criticism. I obviously, you know, I've said it before on the show that I think TikTok has a negative effect on American teenagers. And I think ultimately it does support Chinese interests. The thing that I liked about this bill, I don't like the present thing. I do like that part of it is if they are going to stop operating in the U.S., they do have to give all of the

content to all the creators. And so that would make a transition to a TikTok rumble hybrid easier. And that thing that TikTok is dangling over people right now is that there are so many – the influencer sphere is so big and it really does make a lot of money. Also, businesses will sort of blow up. Books will suddenly become famous even though they've been out for five years. It has a huge impact on culture and commerce right now. And so if you were to say you're not going to lose your livelihood, because that's what TikTok is saying, it will ruin your life. You won't be able to make money. It's not only taking away the fund, but it's taking away the economic freedom

that we gave you by becoming active on this platform. That would be interesting. I just think that I don't think this bill will go through. And I think the next ban that comes up, if it's better and it does go through tiktok gonna fight they're not gonna want to go to rumble how do they define adversary do you know have you like yeah it's it's a technical term that's defined by the state department let me see if i can like i wonder you know is it specifically the chinese communist party which i doubt no it's like a whole list mega extremGA extremists. Can you say how they do it in the bill? Define adversary in the bill. The term is usually...

Sorry, my apologies. The term is generally set in practice by the National Security Strategy. And they just use that in the bill. I believe, but... They wouldn't define it. There's norm and convention. Right.

There's nothing that can't stop a member of Congress just writing this guy's an adversary in a bill. And if it enough votes that becomes the law or just using certain types of phrases as a way to define adversary biden's national security strategy stopped short of calling mega extremists yeah shop shop short of yeah of calling china an enemy yeah oh okay interesting interesting i i think i think it's maybe a competitor is the term or something maybe a little a little bit uh okay froster than that okay um but it's an upgrade from like 2013 where it was just like openly like a business partner right it reminds me of when all the states were banning tiktok and they were each coming out with their own language

and every ban that was issued by a governor got more and more refined in my opinion or a lot of them did because you saw they would be headed as like state enacts TikTok ban you can't use TikTok on government-owned devices government-owned wi-fi and it kept expanding but also some of the states banned other apps that are owned by companies based in Beijing which is the whole idea that you know companies that operate in China are obligated to submit user data to the Communist Party. That's an idea for you. Yeah, that's the threshold they're building off of.

So they would also bring up WhatsApp. Like you can't use, certain states you can't use WhatsApp on government Wi-Fi or government-owned devices. And again, it's the idea that like these companies... Right, these entities have broad reaching terms of service. They're able to use all kinds. I mean, it's similarly Trump is right when he points out that, you know, in some ways

this would benefit Facebook, which in its terms of service, if you open Facebook on your browser, it can see everything else on every other tab. Right. And that's, that's the concern they have with TikTok. I think two things are going on here on the Republican side. One, there is the longstanding view, and apologies if you guys use TikTok at all, but I don't. I've been banned.

Okay, got it. Not the right audience for that. Are you a TikTok fan? I won't put it on my phone. We got banned arbitrarily for citing statistics. Okay. Not even offensive ones. It was depression among women.

I see. And someone read a stat that the study found that women who are in the workplace have higher rates of depression and permabanned instantly. What year is this? This was last year, I think. I think in general, conservatives look at it two different ways. One, the medium is not particularly high IQ. In fact, like literally just seems like if you watch enough videos it's just going to melt your brain

but two there has been a development I feel like in the last 6 to 12 months where there are such there's such a lack or paucity of Republicans on the platform that the ones who do go on do very well and I think like so like someone like Ramaswamy

the candidate you know called for a ban and then I think he started going on and he's obviously very well. Um, and I think like, so like, uh, someone like Ramaswamy, uh, the candidate, uh, you know, call for a ban. And then I think he started going on and he's obviously very well spoken, um, and kind of did well. And he's like, well, maybe we should just compete. Yeah. So I think, I think that's, I think that's kind of going on. Um, and also I think it's this sort of weird situation where it's not that weird. Neither party trusts the other with the power of the state. So if the Republicans were convinced that like you know congressman gallagher who's retiring we're like marco rubio was going to like be the one adjudicating you know who's an adversary where like who gets banned based on china ties okay but like if the democrats win like they're obviously the the prospect of

them stretching an interpretation here to me just to make it arbitrary as you just said seems like not only uh likely but certain yeah yeah would you ban tiktok or what would that look like for you i would have said yes a year ago uh at this point i mean look if they're serious i mean that that guy that tiktok uh ceo who who kept saying remember he had that exchange with uh i believe it was Cotton or somebody, he kept indicating that he's Singaporean, he's not actually Chinese. I'm Singaporean. I think it was Cotton. That's the big difference.

As someone who went to high school in Singapore, it's different. It is different. It's a lot different. But obviously... Wait, they're different places? I didn't realize that the... It's different parts of... Well, he's Singaporean, but ByteDance still is based in Beijing. Singapore is like the Rhode Island of countries. It was a bit of a solipsism by him.

He represents a Chinese firm, and he just kept indicating, you know, it would be a little bit like if you were born in a different country and just like really roping on that. Well, I'll give you an example of the purpose of this, it's an assumptive language. When I was in Venezuela, I'm an American, I know what happens to Americans. When were you in venezuela uh 10 years ago uh 11 years ago so is it before maduro or shabba no it's during maduro yeah 2014 and it was matt it was large protests from the uh middle class because they're being gutted and destroyed and uh i'm with the film crew for vice and a guy

comes up to me and he goes where you from and he's pissed and i know exactly what comes next and i go vice magazine and he goes no no what country and i was like vice magazine is a canadian magazine and he was like and then he nods and he walks off yeah i i didn't actually answer his question when he said where are you from i was like vice vice magazine right like as if the question was what outlet when i know what he meant and you have to get that you're legally required to have your passport on you at all times if you're a foreigner and so then he said biden thing and talk about how your car no no when he said which country instead of answering the question i said vice magazine is a canadian magazine which was not the question he asked but he assumed then i must be canadian yeah that's that's the point of saying i'm from singapore right

we get it we know we're asking who you are representing. Right. That's very clever. You survived. So I mean it worked and this guy is still in the arena. I mean if they are serious I think like this is just optically in my personal opinion a great deal for them. Everybody knows Rumble is right-aligned. If they're serious about operating the US and they want to show that they're divested from day-in, day-out control by Beijing, why not take this offer? I mean, that's kind of wild to say that Rumble is right-aligned, to be honest.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I think functionally, they are. They're obviously filling a gap in the marketplace. But I think the challenge we are facing right now is that the right is just a bunch of centrists. What is the right is just a bunch of centrists what is the right is you know the right is centrism and the left is far-left extremism as exemplified by rumble will not ban far-leftists they will not do it they will allow the left and the right to have their

conversations the left will absolutely ban anyone on the right consistently in the culture war the right says now slow down there let's be fair to each other and the left just says destroy them one of the most uh telltale signs of this whole thing i feel like you see a little less now because it's just so ridiculous but a couple years ago when you had a lot of um sort of i'll just use this term again left-aligned thinkers or speakers or public personalities putting the word free speech in sneer quotes right it was like literally like like the concept is literally the first amendment of the united states um but like you know the idea of free speech being a a novel or right-wing

concept uh i mean i i think that's that's that's what that's the environment which rumble came to be into being free speech means hate speech. Right. I mean, this is an old debate, but it's like the idea that the open forum in the digital era, I mean, even the terms, I mean, I don't, I will ban it from my magazine, like the words misinformation or disinformation. Like, are we all adults or not?

Right? You don't use those words you're saying no nice no no like i mean it's just like i mean i mean if you want to have some insane very far left person write something and it's actually very well done they can i'm not going to say this is misinformation that the reader can make up their own mind right the writers are allowed to use it you're saying or i won't allow it right i won't allow me because it's been so overused and means nothing anymore i do believe human beings lie uh or make arguments that are uh fraudulent or sedentious but i think it is a lot better to litigate that and debate it and have an open discussion than just say this is

misinformation trademark it is it is it is it's an it's an un-American concept. Have you rejected other modern style guide concepts as an editor of a magazine? I mean, we're fairly strict. Capital B for black. No, we don't use that. The New York Times, small w for white. It's crazy.

I think the Post is still... It's very confusing. The New York Post, you're saying? The Washington Post is, the New York Post, you're saying? No, the Washington Post. Okay, because the New York Post has lost their minds. The New York Post has lost their minds. Yeah, like their stories have become more like BuzzFeed articles, I've noticed lately.

It doesn't mean that it's all like that. What era do you think that changed? I've only noticed it recently, but I think it's been happening slowly because I remember seeing bylines in the New York Post and then going to check out their Twitter, and their Twitter pages were just like insane leftist people, but their articles weren't so left-leaning.

They were sort of like objective, but then the objectivity started to wane, and now we're getting more articles that I would have seen as like first person essays and buzzfeed 10 years ago you know like uh sex obsessed weird you know modern love but a little more tabloid yeah yeah okay i see it's weird i see i do think the new york post still sets this sort of agenda for like a lot of television right and uh you know it's still huge reach yeah and it's

definitely more outlaw than the journal the wall street journal yeah and yeah let's uh let's jump to the story which i've only just recently began hearing about and uh i i don't have many words from newsweek candace owens bets career on politician's wife being a man terrifying um okay here we go conservative commentator candace owen said she would bet her career that french president emmanuel macron's wife bridget is a man quote after looking into this i would stake my entire professional reputation the fact that bridget macron is in fact a man owens wrote in a tuesday post on x formerly twitter any journalist or publication that is trying to dismiss this plausibility is immediately identifiable as establishment.

I have never seen anything like this in my life. The implications here are terrifying. Owens spoke in depth about the longstanding conspiracy theory during Monday's episode of her podcast, arguing that if Bridget really wanted to debunk those claims, she could simply release photos from the first 30 years of her life. Analyzing a rare family photo of Bridget as a baby, Owens said Bridget was a dead ringer for her brother,

and thus they were really the same person. Last year, a French court fined two women for promoting the conspiracy about Bridget in a now-deleted YouTube video. In 2021, psychic Amandine Roy and self-described freelance journalist Natasha Ray claimed in a four-hour video that the first lady was born as a boy by the name of jean-michael trogno which is actually the name of her brother they also claimed that she did not give birth to their children and that her first husband never existed is she talking about michelle obama no no because i'm not making

any accusations about michelle obama that's quite literally the conspiracy theory about michelle obama what if they're what if all world leaders wives are actually original transgenders and the No, no, because I'm not making any accusations about Michelle Obama. That's quite literally the conspiracy theory about Michelle Obama. What if all world leaders' wives are actually original transgenders and the transgender agenda was laid in place to help make this acceptable? And this comes out during Women's History Month? Exactly. That actually makes perfect sense in the absurd world. The thing about Macron and his wife is it always gets me that they met when he was classmates with her daughter and she was a teacher at his high school. Yes. And you want to be like, this seemed unethical and weird from the beginning. that they met when he was classmates with her daughter and she was a teacher at his high school.

And you want to be like, this seemed unethical and weird from the beginning. You mean he was a teacher at his high school. Look, no one's proved it to me. I don't want to question Candace Ellen's reputation or anything else, but you know.

I looked into this as doing a lot of work. What does that mean? Yeah, I'm doing it right now. I'm doing a lot of work on my phone right now to see you know these assemble a team to france these did like what's going on i thought candace was asking for like a certain type of pick like a pull your pants down type of pick to prove yourself uh whether but even that wouldn't do it i don't understand the point of of these of these

theories there's not much i just google searched bridget McCrone Young and this is what comes up. I mean, I stand by the fact that she was his teacher is weird enough. Like, maybe there's a gender angle, but like,

let's focus on what we know for sure, which is that they met when he was 15 and that just seems weird to me. It was like a three-year investigation from what I remember

them doing too. It wasn't like a short. They did it for a while. Who is that? I don't know. The friend. Who is that? Good question't know The French Good question No but like

The French journalists That were investigating The Supreme Court It's been around for a long time It wasn't like a little A little thing They studied it for like years Candace is probably right

Like Trudeau I don't know Trudeau is probably Castro's son Michelle is definitely Mike The bar on that Is so much lower I know Like yeah

Like he does look like fidel cash it only has to happen once yes yeah okay versus like this this implies that they have like an actor okay and like a bunch of people were falsified and like also like her first husband did die that was like a person so i can't tell you then on a biden clone so if you can see trudeau is castro i can't sell you a biden being a network of clones and holograms secret secret uh what's that word i'm looking for uh illegitimate child yeah yeah okay yep here uh-huh okay uh super transgender conspiracy theory up here yeah true biden president of the united states as actor above that dude i'm like i'm calling him below like 17 standard

deviations. That's crazy. That's crazy. I think that should be below. 17 standard deviations. That should be below the transgender world

leader wives in my chart. The clone is down here in the middle. Okay, so you all agreed that you were swapping out the actor below.

So you think Biden is more likely to be a clone? It depends on which day it is but it could be a clone a deep fake a clone of biden uh or yeah there's a body double like a full-on clone both now hold on hold on guys guys it is a fact that powerful world leaders have body doubles yeah that's not that's not a conspiracy theory at all yeah uh so why would they not periodically use a body double i mean putin does it well that's, that's different. I actually think Putin's been accused of doing it.

There've been people who are like, that kind of doesn't look like him. Which one is it? That there are body doubles, which I'm- Body doubles are a fact. I think it's over here. I don't know for presidents in the United States that that's a fact.

I'm not saying for presidents, but- Yeah, Saddam Hussein. Yeah, he has- Powerful world leaders and politicians throughout history have used body doubles. So is the theory that he has a body double or that they just replaced the president with the body double? So here's the point.

Here's the point. I don't think Biden was replaced. I think Biden got surgery. People are like, look at these two people. They look so different. I'm like, look at the man's face. They pulled it back. So who is the recent Biden with the scrotum chin?

That's the same Biden. Same Biden? Because that was a different that was a different chin dude camera angles like you can you can take a look at any of the thumbnails of me and see some days i'm i'm like my face is poofier i've bagged under my eyes but that chin was saggier than most other like angles would give you know you could have a bad way though so i gotta be honest it probably sounds gross but you can see sometimes when he turns his neck it pulls the skin out from his shirt and then it hangs like it was tucked in well that's because it's a mask that a cia agent

the only time i believe there was possibly a body double was during i think it was 2021 they were going to they always go to delaware all the time but there was a phase where he was wearing his aviators and he had a mask on and he wasn't holding hands with joe biden and there was a moment where i was like maybe they feel like they can't send him into public who wasn't holding hands uh joe and joe and they typically are pretty pda and in public and it made me wonder like maybe they feel like he is too medically fragile to like go out and catch pneumonia or covet or whatever that was the only time that i was like maybe this is when they're sending someone else in. Wearing a mask and glasses so you can't even see his face.

It's not even that complicated. It's the perfect time not to risk his health. I want to say this about Bridget McCrone and Michelle Obama. Think about how brutal it must be to be a middle-aged woman and have people be like, the only explanation for her appearance is that she's a man.

It's driving sales in the beauty industry. That's the world they created, so let them have it. and have people be like, the only explanation for her appearance is that she's a man. You know, it's just like... It's driving sales in the beauty industry, right? Well, that's the world they created, so let them have it, you know? Oh, for real? They're constantly questioning whatever gender means and all these things. I think in defense of the Macron's,

I don't think that they're as far out on the transgender stuff as the Obama family is. Yeah. So where does that fall on your scale? Interesting. On plausibility? Yeah. I think neither of them are men. Okay. But I think... family is yeah so where does that fall on your scale interesting on plausibility yeah i think

neither of them are men uh and okay but i do but i think it's a little still be friends but so i'll put it this way if someone came to me actually i have a friend of mine i'm sitting i'm hanging out his living room and we're in california shout out robbie and he's gonna text me now and he was like michelle obama's a man and i was like robbie stop and he's like i'm Obama's a man. And I was like, Robbie, stop. And he's like, I'm telling you, dude. And then he pulls up YouTube and he starts showing me all these videos. And I was like, oh, come on, man. Look, yeah, there are these videos that show like Michelle Obama and like dancing on Ellen, dancing on Ellen and things like this. And I'm like, I don't think this proves you think it proves because like any any trans person is going to tuck they sell tuck friendly bathing suits like i don't think you're seeing what you think you're seeing

and i honestly i'm like i don't know what the point of the conspiracy theory is and then just like insult michelle obama as being ugly or something and manly or whatever i think it's all part of the erosion of reality but that being said that being said if someone came to me and said look at this photo of joe biden this recent event, that's a body double. I'd say, oh, it's possible. You don't immediately dismiss that because politicians use body doubles. I think it would be absurd to argue that Saddam Hussein had a body double, but the American politicians don't. Vladimir Putin has a body double, but American politicians don't.

OK, maybe members of Congress. The price of saying the president is using a body double is lower here than it was in Saddam's Iraq. I mean, I feel like you, is there a Tim Pool show in Iraq? I mean, you just kind of. What do you mean? I just feel like nobody was allowed to even say it. Like, so you. In Iraq?

Pretty much. Yeah. Well, yeah, sure. But in the United States, I'm just saying that if someone came to me. It's far more likely that Biden has a body double than either of these people. I say it's actually probable in all likelihood. It's a breaking of norms for sure. I don't think so.

I don't think any president's ever had a body double that I'm aware of. It's not documented. It's possible that it's happened. It's national security. I see. We're talking about a country where we've had... How many presidential assassinations have there been? How many assassinations? Two assassinations? No, five. Four or five. McKinley.

Four or five. JFK. Arthur. Oh, Garfield. Garfield, sorry. Yeah. Garfield. Yeah.

McKinley. The obvious ones. Kennedy. Lincoln. Maybe only four. Right. So why would they come out and be like, by the way, we're using a body double. You know what I mean?

I see. And if they were to come out afterwards and say, by the way, we're using a body double. You know what I mean? I see. And if they were to come out afterwards and say, by the way, we're using body doubles, that would compromise the security of existing leadership. I feel like it's more likely to have happened in the 60s or 70s because the cameras were less sophisticated. Oh, interesting. Yeah, but when...

It was just a lot easier to pull this stuff in the 60s and 70s. Sure, sure. There weren't all these things. I mean, even by the early 70s, I mean what what did it nix it like the fact that things were recorded before then unless things are recorded right you know hillary clinton was campaigning in 2016 and she put on a southern drawl not realizing that the internet existed but she still put out pulled out hot sauce on charlemagne show yeah yeah she does not understand what the internet is like yeah but yeah

my point is i i would argue sure there's a there's probably a probability that body doubles aren't being used but i'm willing to bet that the united states government uses body doubles to go back to the oh sorry not to no it's just like rudimentary security i think what which fuels the macron thing is that it was alleged alleged that one of the classified documents that President Trump is alleged to have confiscated or stolen was basically an intelligence dossier about the Macrons. And so the theory was that there was some sort of salacious like sex stuff. But I think it's far more likely to be like that than like. Isn't it enough that he married the person who probably groomed him like he is actually a child this is a diversion

tactic yeah that would make her more acceptable if she was a man she would be like wow first trans first lady vote her in next i think it's weirder that it's actually the obvious what exactly is your argument oh i'm just saying like he they met when he was a student in her school so arguably you could say that would be illegal that would be assuming that there was sexual contact that would be legal in the united states if you're saying there's like a salacious issue i mean either way it's not great optics right like i think it's weird that i don't think it was that much of a hindrance in in france yeah france has weird the thing that the allegation is a boy so the allegation in french politics is that he's gay and so not so much this i mean although obviously enough people believe this

if there's if this is in the courts but like the the the big thing is that that he's somehow not straight is that how they do they uh lampoon him like that in like the bear version their uh satire it was a bigger issue in the 2017 campaign there's a there's a netflix documentary about it and it's it's in french it's about the campaign and like there's like uh uh like a clip of macron talking and i forget it's in the french for the english but forgive my i'll just impersonate it he was like why is it that every man who is uh dates an older woman is assumed to be a gigolo or a homosexual I don't understand and so like it was like very right there was very overt in that campaign and like I at the LePen party the Front National which has been

renamed a What was very big sort of subtly propagating that view? But I do think French sexual mores are just super different than Americans. Yeah. This doesn't seem particularly strange. And if he is gay, wouldn't he be mad because the current prime minister

is openly gay? Like if he had to have this beard for all these years for nothing. I don't think he's gay. I don't think he is. I'm just saying if he were. I just, I'm looking at this story

and I'm like, man, you know, Candace Owens running a segment where she says she bets her career that Bridget McCrone is a man. I'm like, sometimes I wish I had the gall to say such a thing because you get headlines, you build followers, you make a lot of money doing that stuff. What bank is going to take the house when that's not true? I'm here from the career bank and i would like i'm not i'm not saying lateral i'm not i'm not literally talking about a bat i'm saying like candace owens saying such a provocative thing certainly will make her a household name and and and her and her career

is is benefiting from it there's no loss of her career from saying anything like this uh i don't doubt her that she truly believes this i'm just saying i wish i sometimes believe these things and then i could make videos like that instead of just being like probably not let's come let's come up with something good for you the earth is a donut it's there we go it's both flat and hollow yeah that needs to be the clip tomorrow donut earth theory yeah tim pool believes the earth is a donut it's amazing and we talk we can go and look at like the past of all the times she's talked about the simpsons you don't see these weird homer connections i didn't realize the advice really fall for this people um look at this who's no is your picture in this i don't know but i posted this image and i said the world isn't flat it's

flat and hollow would you make it a donut they need a celebrity i don't know did i make the cut we need a donut guy so there's there's this uh this news channel for skateboarding called shredder.news yep and they write about me so often there's a conspiracy theory that it's mine and i run it which i do not i don't know i have anything to do with it and it certainly does write about us quite a bit it could be because we're infusing money in the skateboard industry an industry that is dying um but uh i forgot where i was going with this donuts uh oh right right right right someone commented on one of the stories that you know tim pool is bad and someone was like why do you think tim pool so bad they said, because he believes it should be illegal to not believe in God. And I really, I really, I love this because if you meet someone who knows who I am, there are

a few things you will perceive based on what they believe. So I simultaneously tweeted, it should be illegal to not believe in God. And then I tweeted an hour later, it should be illegal to believe in God. now what happens is the left only shares the one where tim pool is the fascist theocratic guy so now they're all saying tim pool thinks you should be forced by law to believe in god that clearly shows this person has never engaged with any of the content we actually do on the show and it's in essence it's something called coloring the water where you can see what's you don't need to ask them their politics right you can you don's you don't need to ask them their politics. Right. You can you don't you don't need to ask them what they're going to vote for.

You can literally say, what do you think about Tim Pool? And they say he thinks it should be it should be illegal if you don't believe in God. It's like, OK, you're a Biden voter. Right. And then you have people who will say the funny thing is most Trump voters will likely know both tweets exist and and uh but they'll still the more heavily theocratic individuals are attacking me for saying not believe it should it should be illegal to uh to believe in god or something like that so how dare you're creating your own mandela effect for your own biography right people believe two separate things even though you're you're putting out both realities here's the important important thing. Ladies and gentlemen, listen to me. There's a reason why I did this. The next time someone says to you, yeah, but Tim Pool said it should be illegal to not believe in God. Say, what are you talking about?

He never said that. And when they say, yes, he did. He tweeted it. You can Google the tweet where I said the opposite and say, look, March at 9 a.m. He says it should it should be uh illegal to believe in god and they'll go huh no no he's a he's a he's a what no because these people don't investigate and research this stuff you can shatter their minds in an instant now i'm not saying to trick them the point is actually quite simple their worldview will their worldview will shatter in

an instant when they say but i watched insert leftist commentator who showed me the tweet of tim pool saying it should be illegal to not believe in god and then you can say here's the tweet right here on my phone on twitter right now believing in god should be illegal it says and they're gonna go i was lied to i hate to poke just this little hole in the theory though because i've shown people things like the good people on both sides argument and they still after seeing the video no no i i hear you we'll be like he still said it what they'll they'll they'll see the video and still believe in the narrative that they came some people are are lost yeah but for for the people who can be shattered from the matrix yeah those people that are watching these leftist commentators who made all these videos saying tim

poole said thing you can easily now link to my tweet saying the opposite thing and then they'll be like at the very least they'll say wait i don't understand how is this possible yeah i saw a tweet where he said this other thing how is how is a tweet existing that says the exact opposite and you can say you can choose to tell the truth he tweeted both things to prove a point the left is going to lie to you about what he's actually saying uh like patent i think it was patten oswald or ricky gervais who did this a long time ago where back before there were uh tweet threads he tweeted something shockingly racist and then the next tweet completed the context inverting the claim and so people found tweets

from i can't remember who it was. It might have been Ricky Gervais. I'm not sure, but it was saying things like, I just can't believe insert group of people would actually want to do something like this. It's horrible. Then the next tweet was that someone would actually believe they would even do something like that because I don't believe that's true for a moment. So it would created this, you know, dichotomy or whatever. But, uh, if you Google search, it should be illegal, Tim cast. You will see two tweets, one saying, believing in God should be illegal. It should be illegal not to believe in God.

And when you run to leftists who are light, this is what I'm sick of. The leftists will say, Tim Pool said thing, and they will share things out of context. So I created a scenario where, of course, they took the bait. They ran full speed with it. They were screaming and hollering because they're morons who don't care for truth and they don't care if they get caught they just wanted the juicy juicy tweet tweeted the opposite on the same day less than an hour later about an hour later and now whenever someone who's been indoctrinated by the psychopath says tim pool thinks x you can be like rant here's my phone opposite how long have you been doing

this oh i've been doing stuff like that for a long time. I've tweeted various contradictory things like that for this explicit purpose. So people often say, like, how can I, you know, I had a friend say, how do I convince my family that they're being lied to? And it's difficult. OK, for young people that are getting all their news from the Young Turks or Hassan or Vosh or whatever. Vosh once ran a segment where there was a clearly sarcastic tweet. And he's like, the thing about conservatives is that they fundamentally believe. And then he inserts some insane argument I never made. And the Young Turks, they took a tweet of me. I can't remember. Oh, I remember what it was. I remember a Republican arguing for 16 and 17 year olds to be able to work

40 hours a week. And I said something like, yes, our kids need jobs, which was like tongue in cheek, half kidding. And they all pretended like it was the most serious thing I've ever stated without actually providing the context of the purpose of the tweet, the purpose of the labor argument. And so it's things like that where I'm like, they intentionally lie to you because they're grifters. So when people say, how can I prove to people they're lying that's what i did and now you can say oh where did you hear that tim said that okay i just googled it he said the opposite he said actually it should be

illegal to believe in god and they're and then they're gonna say was i lied to and you say yeah you were lied to you were you were lied to it was a series of sarcastic joke tweets or you can just say i don't know, question who showed you a fake tweet, I guess. Yeah. And that's going to force them to be like, Mandela affecting them basically. They're going to be like,

I swear, I said, no, you saw a fake video from some far leftist who lies to you all the time. Congratulations. But we're going to go to super chats. So if you haven't already,

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coming up at 10 p.m. and you'll be able to hang out in our Discord server with like-minded individuals. But get in your super chats now because we're going to read them. The first super chat we got is Clint Torres who says, howdy people. Remember, in life, one must ye the haw before the haw ye's you. Tim, my deepest sympathies and rest in peace, Mr. Bocas.

Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Shane H. Wilder says, requi- requi- requi- Scott? Is that how you say it? How do you pronounce that? Requiescott? Impachi? Rest in peace.

Mr. Bocas, what language is that? Latin. Oh, it's Latin. My love and condolences to the whole TimCast crew. We grieve with you. He will be missed, certainly. Raymond Stanley Jr. says, Baby birds left for dead, while baby bunnies lost lost their head the terrorizer trounces the perfect timing a mouse in a mouse in

his mouth was perfect dining rip mr bocus he was the cast cat with the mostest matthew roos says please keep focus with mr bocus in honor of his time here on earth and my condolences in regards to his passing and happy birthday for the weekend so mr bocus pumpkin spice experience will be retiring uh it doesn't feel right to just keep having that up but we're going to make a we're likely going to launch something in the future that will be called the legend of mr bocus it'll be totally different so uh i recommend that if you want to get the last remaining bags of mr bocus pumpkin spice experience or the k-cups you get them now maybe keep them as a collector's item or whatever you want to do but we're going to be moving those on and uh re-rise with oberto jr also we wanted to do a special

holiday thing but the minimum order was 5 000 so i was like all right so it's it's now several months after halloween we still have many of those but we did launch a promotion for those that are on the email list. There's a promo code. I don't know what it is. But when you buy ReRise with Alberto Jr., you get 25% off two other bags of cast brew coffee. The one thing I want to say, there's a lot of Mr. Bocas tweets. Tricky Hickey says, rest in peace to Mr. Bocas, not first. I got to tell you, when I, when last night after the show,

well, actually yesterday when I came in to the studio, Mr. Bocas was standing. There's like a, I don't know what it is. I think it's like as an air conditioner or something. It's like a box downstairs.

It's a mystery box. But it's like some, I don't know, some appliance that we've never opened for some reason. I don't know. And I put a blanket on it for him because he likes to sit in front of the door and watch as people come and go. So yesterday when I came in, he was standing there with his eyes half open and he went at me.

And I was like, oh, geez. And you could smell what I assume was urea or something on his breath because his kidneys were breaking down. And I was like, OK. So I immediately sent out some texts like, hey, guys, i think he's in renal failure and uh that night at the show i got a text from my girlfriend uh allison that he had blood in his stool and we think this might be it he couldn't stand up he was struggling to walk earlier in the day and when uh kara tried to pick him up and i was like maybe sit with him he squirmed a little bit and when she put him down he just fell to the ground he couldn't stand up so i think maybe he had a stroke or i don't know if it was a stroke but he was

losing function of his limbs and so we knew what was coming this morning i know we don't know if it's gonna make it through the night this morning we got a text uh from karen she was like he's he's groaning wheezing he can no longer stand up at all. He's just laying there. And so I, you know, we've constantly got recommendations from like vets, bring him in, give him the shots. And I was like, absolutely not. You know, I was talking to Alex Stein about it and he said, they'll always tell you to bring your animal in to get him to put down. Don't do it.

He said that, you know, one of his cats was dying. It crawled into his lap and he sat there with it as it, as it died. But I'll tell you this. So I decided what we'll do is we will lay him in the grass we'll bring him outside because he he we used to let him go outside all the time but he started getting sick we couldn't we let him outside a couple weeks ago he collapsed pissed himself i think it was too much for his heart and so i figured uh this if this is his last moment then we will bring him outside and lay him in the grass so he can have sunshine and fresh air and he can smell everything and it'll be his last moment.

But I'll be completely honest. I don't want to prolong his suffering. And so I don't want to keep him in the house in the dark. He probably would have lived a little bit longer. I assumed that by laying him in the grass, the cold earth, which was probably around 45 to 50 degrees, maybe between there, would likely begin to pull the heat from his body and he would fall asleep and just die from exposure. I assume that's what happened. Took about an hour. And I just feel like that's that was the best way to deal with it.

Bring him to a doctor where they just stick a needle in him. Sounds just like the most horrible final moments of your life. Just like, oh, well, and in his condition, he could have died on the drive which would have been i know he would have been shocked and scared and i'm like let's lay him down in front of the chickens he always loved to stare at and he wanted to eat him and uh and as soon as we laid him down he immediately like his head moved a little bit and you could see they started sniffing i think he was very excited to you know see the chickens and then he started to. The point I want to make with this story is there was a point where something happened. He was still alive, but I believe it became apparent that his soul left his body.

That's the only way I can explain it. He was sitting there. He was struggling to breathe. He was like, his heart was barely going. And then all of a sudden he straightened his body out. His eyes went wide. He kept breathing, but he was like his heart was barely going and then all of a sudden he straightened his body out his eyes went wide he kept breathing but he was gone and i was like wow i was like that you know i'm not gonna pretend that cats have souls you know shamus describes it as there's different kinds of souls or whatever but it really felt like before he actually died, whatever Mr. Bocas was left that body.

And what was left was just the body of a cat breathing. His eyes went wide. And then he just breathes slowly and then eventually stopped breathing and then went. That's it. Yeah. And I saw the last fleeting moments of his heart and then all of a sudden it was stillness it's crazy and then within like a couple hours his eyes were just like white like just blank but that's the the point of the story is it really seemed like there was a point and i think it was like 9 36 his soul was gone right like and

i'm thinking to myself like the entity of death has ferried him on you ever see that show dead like me the point of the show that lasted two seasons the point of the show was before people die reapers will remove your soul from your body and you don't experience the death so i don't know i don't know the secrets of the universe but i kind of felt like he had left before his body actually shut down yeah it's like a sacred moment to be there and an animal or a person has died unfortunately i've seen both and it's it's just unpleasant but sacred if it's like you know when it was the people i was unfortunately in hospice so it's it's just unpleasant but sacred if it's like you know when it was the people i was unfortunately in hospice so it's like this very slow humane i guess as humane as it could be not

like a violent death and then the animals on the farm they just have to dig their their own graves it was a it was a wildlife i'm sure the science will tell you tim what actually happened was that his higher brain function shut down as his body went to an emergency mode to protect its internal organs and what you're actually experiencing was a loss of conscious function akin to a coma right i'm sure but i don't know it felt like he was just totally gone yeah all right let's read some more super chats appreciate all of the uh condolences mitchell fault says rip mr bocus another warrior joins the halls of valhalla and that's what i told him uh i originally wanted to have a viking funeral

we decided not to we instead buried a hole outside of free domistan and we put a little cross in it and i think it's funny we're putting a cross together i was like we're all christians i guess so you know crosses are the symbols that we use when we mark a grave is that is that why they do it a cross christian nation you know is it is that why though i'm not i'm not a christian but you know i do believe in god but it just it's it's the it's the moral tradition of my people yeah in ceremonial burial to use a cross to mark the grave all right viley wyoli says celebrating 17 years with my cat leo today he went to heaven thank you for all the love you'll always be my bubba sorry to hear good sir laser griff says so sad about mr

bocus he'll be waiting there for you guys at the rainbow bridge to valhalla i mean he's a warrior you know what i mean like if there was a place he would choose to go it would be to hunt and to slaughter like we uh of course as everyone gathered around and we buried him everyone had stories about how he like would mercilessly torture little birds it's like yes yes i remember one time he he caught a bluebird broke maimed it so it couldn't fly and it was lying on the ground huffing and wheezing and stressing it and he would just stare at it and the moment it would try to get up to move he would just start doing the cat thing where he whacks it until it stops and so i actually had to pick him up and move him away from it and he started yelling interfering with his rightist passage as a cat warrior yeah and then we we use the uh the uh air compression rifle to put that poor

bird out of its misery i was like it like, so you stole all of my fun. He would do it to mice too. He would catch a mouse, carry it around, and then he would just torture it. And we're like, aw, the poor kitty. It's like all the poor animals that have been mercilessly tortured by this thing. It's the expression playing with your food, right? Yeah. I have to imagine that

the mice watching us mourn the cat are like, they're with the enemy. Evil. Yep. They're not for us. They're against us. Jacob Hawley says, Tim, I am in Haiti helping with relief efforts. The whole government has collapsed and people are eating each other in the streets. We need help here.

It's astounding. No Supreme Court prime minister, president or legislator legislature who's in charge. Are you really down there? Wow, man, be careful for real. Are they really eating each other, though? Because I know that the cannibal stuff was like shock and awe but uh i am a firm believer that when society collapses humans will begin to eat each other if you uh we have never seen societal collapse on the scale of

humanity today and so the the machine of energy transfer from outside of cities into cities for you know food is a massive industrial machine and network and if this machine breaks you go back a hundred years how long ago was it that the average american family had one cow they had cows and so it was actually like one of every three families would have three cows or something like this but your neighbors would have a three families would have three cows or something like this. But your neighbors would have a cow and you'd have pigs or something like that.

And if it really came down to it, you had a means to get food. You would go down, you knew where the farm was to pick up the things you needed. There was a butcher and he got his food source. So you knew you were much more connected.

Now it's a grocery store with everything. Suppliers, distribution. With the amount of people living in major cities today if society were to break down new york would collapse in three days into it would be people would be drinking blood and eating each other i am not surprised that we have barbecue a gang leader who eats flesh it's shock and awe don't give me that's not sustenance but if this country goes into civil war, I think people need to understand

the American Civil War in 1861, it was a different time. It was a very rural agricultural, a lot of development. And the North was mostly attacking the South. There was a limited incursion from the South into the North where the North was more heavily industrialized.

But think about where we're at today with 330 million people in this country, 13 million people in the New York metro. What is Manhattan going to become? If this country actually devolved into civil war, I wonder if I wonder if a 24 civil war movie will talk about this. I doubt it. But one of the first moves to make for anyone in a conflict is going to be cut off supply lines. That's that's that's one on one blockade of ports and and and sabotage of roads. And if New York City can't bring in food, I do not believe there will be a concerted

effort from let's say let's say that like it goes a 24 style where you've got the five factions or whatever. Whatever is in control of new york they're not going to maintain airdrops of food to 2.5 million people on manhattan island impossible right so if the bridges get sabotaged i'm like what manhattan is an island that's what happens at the end of the batman movie of the trilogy right they take out the bridges and they isolate the city and then they're gonna blow it up but people would start eating each other i mean food stores will run out very quickly perishables are gone in three days what's

the time between the toilet paper freak out and then cannibalism um i think within a month you likely have full-scale cannibal gangs geez within a month but i think it's probable that within a week you have cannibals right i think it's possible that within three days you have cannibals because people need to drink something they'll probably die but i imagine they'll be drinking each other's blood i look i mean you're in manhattan island and if the water stops what do you do you can't drink seawater. People will flee the island in mass. And if the bridges are taken out, they'll be swimming across.

A lot of people will die, but very few people will remain on Manhattan Island because there's not going to be water. Yep. And remember people, once a cannibal, always a cannibal. This is true.

Can't take that back. You cannot take that back. Reza Aslan is a cannibal. Always will be, even if he never has another human brain again. Yep. Yep. Even if he never does, once a again yep yep even if he never does once a cannibal always a cannibal brian dayton says very reminiscent of the hillary clinton email case

yes she broke the law but we won't charge her same here for joe just more of democrats getting away with anything they want nothing will ever be done that's right and republicans are centrists the democrats appointed to go after donald trump will say we will find any reason to criminally charge him. And the Republican appointed to go after Joe Biden says he did break the law. He did have motive. He was going to profit off it. He did say he wanted to profit off it because he wanted to write a book. He's going to make money from it.

But he's a well-to-do old man with a bad memory. So we're going to let it slide. Didn't they also say he said there was precedence of him being allowed to take the the documents i don't know about that one i forgot who asked that where it came up but that was something else i heard today but it's remarkable that they were like it is in the robert was like it is in the report that he was uh going to make a book he intended to and he knew people wanted to buy it from him and you know that he needed the classified information for that book and then he's asked and he warned the wanted to buy it from him and that he needed the classified information for that book. And then he's asked,

and he warned the ghostwriter to be careful because some of this is classified, yes. And the ghostwriter then deleted the conversation knowing it was illegal and that you were investigating, yes. And then he was like, why didn't you arrest the ghostwriter? And he's like, It's hard for us to say.

Yep. There's no answer. There's no answer for the ghostwriter didn't get arrested for destroying evidence. man's absolutely wild wh says average age of the house is 58 average of the senate is 65 and rage age of uh and average age of americans is 38 not sure the average age uh of illegals rip focus what should the average age of americans be it should be way lower than 38 shouldn't it yeah i think i think certainly it's in our defense it's lower really 38 it's old yeah i mean it's not as old as china or or korea or japan um but i mean we're we're

trending toward a and i mean just as a context uh young age is not always good, especially if your country is unstable. I mean, I think the median age in Gaza is like 19 or 20. The median age in Iraq, I believe the average Iraqi citizen was born after the invasion in 2003. So they don't even remember Saddam's reign. But, you know, a healthy society should look more like 28 30 or at least at least what we understand a healthiest society to have looked like before the line says 20 for bocus the king i'm sure y'all have a charity picked out but if not please look into alley cat allies shout out first heavyweight ufc champ mark coleman saved his folks from a fire in hospital

with smoke inhalation wow shout out mark coleman yes so everyone go to casper.com and buy your uh alex stein primetime grind two times caffeine at the end of the month we're going to uh take the proceeds alex stein has foregone his uh all proceeds for his coffee brand in lieu of it being donated to a cat charity which we will uh we will do we will uh we will donate that money we'll see what it is i i can't imagine it's gonna be a ton of money but uh the more people buy alex stein's two times caffeine coffee the more that will be donated and uh additionally drink responsibly it's got two times caffeine and alex alex stein's in the hospital for like a heart thing and i'm

like oh i hope he's okay. We're laughing now because we assume he's going to be all right. Yeah. You know, so hopefully everything's all right. We're laughing because we're bad people. I don't know what to say. Yep. BrownBear992 says, Tim, have you been following the Sweet Baby Inc. controversy?

Also, let's get a Culture War episode just debating the worst U.S. president. That's actually a pretty good one. Yes. So I guess the Culture War. So I don't know so i don't know like i don't know what's going on the culture war team was uh talking with pearl davis and the daily wire crew and we had a date set and then i guess they canceled and just did the show on their own or whatever which is they're entirely allowed to do but i guess uh the frustrating thing for us is

that we did not know they were canceling on us so like pearl davis wanted to do a show where she debate stuff we offered she said yes then we started looking for they were canceling on us. So like Pearl Davis wanted to do a show where she debates stuff, we offered, she said yes. Then we started looking for people to bring on, but instead they just, she just went to Daily Wire Studios instead and did it individually with Michael Knowles. And so our crew didn't know, I guess. That's frustrating. That's a bummer.

Well, c'est la vie. You know, welcome to a media market. Yep. But whatever. You know, so we'll have stuff interesting anyway. We'll have good shows planned all right sorry we should get candace on to debate bridget mccrone um you know say that loud they're gonna take that idea you know the difficult thing is like trying to host people who already have their own shows is yeah probably pointless you know to do

the debate with them like if it was i was going to be debating them makes sense but if they want to debate each other it makes sense for them to do their own show unless they want to be here because it's a neutral platform yeah and i will say candace just did the chris cuomo thing on pbd it's possible she debated chris cuomo it wasn't so much a debate but they definitely went back and forth a few times i want to get chris cuomo on uh on uh culture war yeah the first thing i'm gonna ask him is why did he lie about being in covid lockdown oh has anyone asked him that yet i didn't see the Candace thing. I don't know if it was brought up.

Because Tucker Carlson talked to him. I didn't see the whole show. Did anybody watch that? I wonder if he was like, you faked having, being in COVID lockdown. Why would you do that? Yeah.

Well, we'll see. Mass murdering governor. Should we invite him on the show and then we'll, we'll, no, I'll leave it there.

I'll leave it there. We'll invite him on the show. We'll see what he says. All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? Subscribe to this channel.

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Check out our website, theamericanconservative.com. Uh, we got good stuff on. I'm at Kurt Mills, C-U-R-T-M-I-L-L-S. Thanks. It's been really,

really great having you here. Uh, I loved all the fun facts. What was that? They're all born within 60 days of each other? Yeah. The Trump, Hillary, and Bush. Trump, Clinton, and George W.

We're all born within 60 days of each other. Within 60 days of each other in the summer of 46. I love fun facts like that. That's a good one. It's just great. I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow. I'm a writer for scnr.com. That's Scanner News.

I'm really grateful to be a part of that team. You can follow our work at TimCastNews on Instagram and Twitter. You can follow me personally on Instagram at HannahClaire.b and on Twitter at HCBremlow. Guys, thank you so much. Good to see you, Shane. It was fun to be here. I'm Shane Cashman. You can find my books, the Inverted World series online. We'll have the Inverted World live show up soon, I think. And it's gonna be a lot of fun when people call in and talk about crazy stories. I will convince people like Kurt that Joe Biden's a clone and that the clouds are fake uh we'll get into that another time and uh it's a pleasure being here i think the goal would be to do collins

but have it be through the discord yeah so if you're a member you sign up and then you submit your ghost stories or your paranormal experiences or whatever weird stuff yeah and then whatever you think happened Shane will tell you it was actually way weirder than you realize yeah I'll let you know I'll be here yeah I'm Serge.com see you in the after show we'll see you all over at Timcast.com in about a minute thanks for hanging out you