Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #981 TIKTOK BAN HAS PASSED, Bill Moves To Senate, Trump OPPOSES Ban w/Jake Denton

Episode Date: March 14, 2024

Tim, Chris Karr, Carter Banks, and Serge join Jake Denton to discuss US Congress passing a bill to officially ban TikTok, a judge dismissing 6 charges in Donald Trump's case in Georgia, controversy surrounding Patrick Bet David hiring Chris Cuomo, and the conspiracies emerging about the Royal Family's Kate Middleton and her disappearance from the public eye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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All right. Here we go. The big news today is that the House has passed a bill that would see TikTok banned in the U.S. or they would have to divest from foreign adversary ownership. It's resulted in a lot of contentious debate with many individuals on social media saying it's a trick so they can ban Rumble or X and give the president the authority to censor Americans. And I read the bill and I have no idea what any of these people are talking about. Out of context clips being posted on social media, snippets of the bill without any further reading.

People completely ignoring the text of the of the attached USC. And I'm like, I kind of don't think anybody actually read this. I also think it's kind of strange that you had this big push in favor of banning TikTok because their algorithm is driving young people insane, provably. But now all of a sudden people are like, no, actually, I oppose this. And either they're just completely wrong or they're lying. Look, shout out. I like Thomas Massey. He's a good dude, but he's wrong. And I can't understand why he's going so heavily against this sharing these out of context clips from the bill. I read the bill and he ignored a bunch of extremely important context about the argument that certain websites can be banned. It's ridiculously specific what the bill says,

basically only banning TikTok and creating a ridiculously difficult path towards any kind of other censorship that would not in no way actually reach Rumble X or any other platform. There is a potential circuitous argument they might. But we're going to pull up the bill and we're going to show you and we're going to show you the attached United States code and we'll talk about it. You don't have to like it. That's fine. You can be in favor of Tic Tac Tic Tac. That's fine. I just I think it's important we actually know what the bill does before so many people jump to either supporting or opposing it. The other big news is that the judge in the Georgia case against Donald Trump has dismissed six of 47 charges. So I guess it's, you know, it's

interesting news. I don't know how much it changes. Fannie Willis will likely continue. And some people are saying this shows that he likely will not be dismissing her. So this will be interesting. And then, of course, there was a big story about an individual, a teenager who was non-binary, and the left said she was beaten to death for being trans or non-binary, and they blamed Libs of TikTok. We now know that, sadly and unfortunately, this young teenager committed suicide. It was completely unrelated to any of these things as far as we know. And, of course, that narrative was fake. So we're going to pull that up and talk about that. In the UK, they've banned puberty blockers so we've got some big news and we will jump into those

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Yeah, my name is Jake Denton. I'm a research associate in the Tech Policy Center at the Heritage Foundation. So I cover everything from artificial intelligence policy to bills like this TikTok one. Did you see that video from Figure One uh is that the robotics company correct yeah so it's a robot and they combined it with chat gpt yeah and this is what some like people never never thought this was going to happen we always thought that ai was going to be like hello i can lift this

for you and they actually gave it a fake stutter they gave the a they gave the robot a fake stutter so that when the guy says can you give me something to eat he goes i uh yeah actually and it's like oh it's so creepy but uh this will be fun so you happen to know a lot about this bill and what's going on social media so uh perfect timing having you here should be a good time we got carter banks hanging out what's up guys carter banks here um make music here at timcast we're hanging out here and we got chris hey thanks uh chris carr i'm the executive editor at scnr.com that's scanner news and thanks for having me back right on carter had a good joke insulting chris cuomo earlier maybe we'll get to that later chris patrick bet david hired uh chris cuomo i am deeply disappointed i think it's a huge mistake we'll talk about that as well well. Patrick Bet David responded to me saying he trusts in capitalism, told me to keep kicking ass.

He's a smart guy. He's a good guy. I really like the work he does, but I have no idea what he's doing. We'll see. But anyway, Serge is pressing the buttons. I'm here. What's up? All right, let's jump into that first story from the New York Times. House passes bill to force TikTokiktok sale from chinese owner or ban the app the legislation received wide bipartisan support with both republicans and democrats showing an eagerness to appear tough on china so it was what did it bill three it passed 352 to 65 massively bipartisan and what we're seeing right now is a divided punditry class on social media.

I believe Sagar and Jetty had the best response to this. And he said, it's very simple. We are not allowed to do business in China. Why? Why are they allowed to do business here? Simple question. He gave a much more deep and thorough explanation than just that. But I think he made probably the best point in all of this.

However, what I see from most people, Tucker Carlson making the point that they could just ban anything. You've got Michael Tracy arguing that it could ban a website, a desktop application, mobile application, augmented or immersive technology. I got to tell you, this one really really bothered me by all means if you think the bill should not pass because tiktok should be freely allowed to operate their algorithms in the united states affecting the u.s population fine that's your opinion say it great i disagree i think it is a serious issue when a foreign adversary, namely China, is manipulating the algorithm so the likes of Dylan Mulvaney become particularly prominent in American culture. Why would we allow a foreign adversary to dictate what we build in culture is insane to me.

And as most of you know, I think culture, it's, Andrew Breitbart said, politics are downstream from culture. Nothing's more important. In terms of winning the political battle. You have to build the cultural base and a Chinese application that not only is collecting our data is going to deeply affect politics. Take a look at what just happened when they were proposing this bill. TikTok sent a notification to everyone saying, call your reps and stop them from doing this.

That is an insane amount of power for a foreign adversary to have. Now, imagine this. That is an insane amount of power for a foreign adversary to have. Now, imagine this. You get China about to invade Taiwan and you have a bunch of politicians with varying opinions on it. Imagine there is the there is someone of the there are many members of Congress who have publicly stated we will not we will not allow China to build military bases, invade Taiwan. So what happens a week before election day? TikTok sends out a notification to only the people they believe will vote Democrat or in opposition and say, don't forget to vote. We learned that from Dr. Robert Epstein. So now, while many people are concerned about what this bill can do, I want to, uh, we'll discuss it

and break down what it can and cannot do. And the first thing I will say, many people are asking, why is it? Why now? Donald Trump wanted to ban TikTok. Most people agreed with it back then. And that bill was way worse. And now that there's actually something that's very narrow and limited moving through, for some reason, everyone on the right is saying, no, we shouldn't do this.

Even Donald Trump. The one thing I will say is that changed Israel. The catalyst for this, in my opinion, was that when woke garbage is appearing on TikTok and it's flooding the feeds of all these young people and literally driving them to self harm, Tourette's and suicide and psychotic Instagrams. No, no, no saint here either. Nobody cares. As soon as October 7th happens tiktok begins showing prominently pro-palestine content more so than pro-israel content resulting in a paranoid eruption from many politicians saying whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa this undermines american interest in the middle east now they want to ban or control the app but But Jake, I know you have a lot of understanding

of this. So can you break down the gist of what the bill does? We can pull it up to and show people. Absolutely. So I think the most important thing to understand right at the top is that this bill is about the conduct of ByteDance, not the content on TikTok. And so right off the rip, when this was announced, you had all sorts of corporate lobbyists coming out and saying this is a First Amendment violation. There is no First Amendment protection for data harvesting operations that are sending data back to China and using it against the American people. And so this bill aims to address that phenomenon, not the content on the platform. And this is where it gets difficult. There's a million reasons to ban TikTok.

This just happens to be about the data. And so this is the pathway they chose. And what the bill does is that it names four adversary states, Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran, only apps within those countries that also pose a national security threat that also look essentially just like TikTok. That is why they named TikTok. It's structured around TikTok. Could ever be covered. And so you have all this misinformation floating around from corporate lobbyists that are trying to appeal to your emotions, right? Like we all love rumble. We

all love X. So the first thing they claim is that this is going to be used to ban rumble and X and you're being sold a bill of goods, right? Like they are trying to appeal to your emotion, trying to activate you against your congressional member to kill this thing. And it is not organic. There's a lot of money floating around. These are paid comments being made. And it is not organic. There's a lot of money floating around. These are paid comments being made. And it is a Chinese influence operation from the top down. Like, what do you call sending push notifications to millions of devices with outright lies about the contents of the bill and asking them to call their member? So this is what we saw from Thomas Massey. He grabbed a snippet of this, highlighted a single word and tweeted out the image.

And all of a sudden, I'm seeing tons of people be like, whoa, this bans websites. It bans websites where you can create an account, generate content, share content, create an account, view content. And it has to be from one of four countries. And that's basically saying like tiktok.com. It doesn't ban you from viewing the website. It doesn't ban anyone from going to the website or using it it restricts u.s companies from providing hosting services to adversary apps that means under this bill what would happen is tiktok could still exist but you'd have to download the app through the apk and you'd have to jailbreak your iphone now certainly that does effectively ban it for most people who use iPhones, but you're still able to go to any website you want,

even if it's run in China. The section that Thomas Massey posted, I'll read it for you. It says the term foreign adversary controlled application means a website desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application that is operated directly or indirectly, including through a parent company, subsidiary or affiliate by a any of one bite dance, LTD to tick tock three, a subsidiary or a successor to any entity identified in clause one or two that is controlled by a foreign adversary or an entity owned, controlled directly or indirectly by an entity identified in clause one or two, three, or a covered company, B, a covered company that, 1, is controlled by a foreign adversary, and 2, that is determined by the President to present a significant threat to the national security of the United States following the issuance of, 1, a public notice proposing such determination, and 2, a public report to Congress submitted not less than 30 days before such determination describing the specific national security concern involved and containing a classified annex and a description of what assets would need to be divested to execute a qualified divestiture. The important thing to understand here, the bill does not ban anything.

It outright says you must divest in the instance the president says hey this website that allows people to create accounts log in post content and other people to log in post and view that content has has investment from iran i hereby decree as a threat you have to divest that so what would happen the app would not be banned they would simply say hey this iranian guy who owns 10 million dollars in the app we've got he's got to sell that to someone else otherwise the company can't operate here it just ensures that there are american interests controlling the app this doesn't mean that you know a lot of people are like this means the cia will control like the c the cia could shut down twitter or x right now right now with or without this bill so i don't even think this bill is particularly the most uh effective thing now

here's the important part that i think Thomas Massey should have included. Section four, just below what I read, says the term foreign adversary country means a country specified in Section 4872 D2 of Title 10 U.S. Code, which is specifically the Republic of North Korea, the Republic of China, Russian Federation or the Islamic Republic of Iran. That's it. If there is a website application, augmentative whatever, blah, blah, blah, that is controlled and operated by what by those four countries, by individuals working or companies from those countries or people working for those countries, they would have to divest that interest. Otherwise, it country companies in the united states would not be allowed to provide hosting services the app still exists the network

still exists anyone can still use it you can still go to all the crazy iranian social media websites you want without any limitation except you can't download it on the app store that's what's happening so unless x or rumble was basically controlled and operated in the DPR Korea or the Islamic state of Russia, then that's nothing would happen with that. So the only and I don't see this being a real issue, but like if a guy from China buys a bunch of public stock legally in the app, then they would go to them and say, hey, he has to sell that, I guess. Well, what's interesting here is it's not even all applications coming from these countries. It's applications that also pose a national security threat. And when you really look at the app store right now and you try and look at, you know,

what else could we add to this list? Maybe WeChat, Lemonade, a subsidiary of ByteDance anyways. Like there really isn't much left. We already established prior to the show starting, like you can't even go after Telegram with this. uh lemonade a subsidiary of bite dance anyways like there really isn't much left we already established prior to the show starting like you can't even go after telegram with this like that is one that they would all love to go after and it's not even included in this it's such a narrow frame and and look there's a super chair right here from uh nick terpetro says i saw tim i seldom disagree with you but the vagueness of this bill is terrifying it gives the president

unilateral and plenary plenary authority to ban any website or app they want no it doesn't yeah i don't i don't look man it's it's mind-blowing when i see so many people marching in lockstep believing something that is not correct you can oppose the bill you can say i don't think we should force tiktok to divest but the bill does not ban anything unless they refuse to divest from these from these countries or these individuals, which would mean Donald Trump or Joe Biden would have to come out and say Rumble is being a Rumble. Specifically, this individual within Rumble who has control in this way receives funding in this way from this country. He needs to stop doing that. Otherwise, we will restrict it from being hosted in the United States. And then go, oh, okay,

John, hey, that foreign agent contract you have, you gotta stop. That's the first step. It's got a judicial review section. Right of action, a petition for review challenging this act or any action finding a determination under this act may be filed only in the state's courts of D.C. And a lot of people are saying, aha,

but D.C., that means it'll always go through because you know, Democrats and censorship or whatever. The United States Court of Appe only in the state's courts of dc and a lot of people are saying aha but dc that means it'll always go through because you know democrats and censorship or whatever the united states court of appeals in the district of columbia circuit shall have exclusive exclusive jurisdiction over any challenge to the act finding termination etc etc statute of limitations a challenge may only be brought within 165 days the most important thing to understand, this bill only bans things as a, as, I can't think of the word. Banning is an action taken in the event divestiture does not happen. What the bill does is trigger a requirement for divestiture. Yeah. That's it.

Yeah. Yeah, I thought the FCC member, i think his name is brent brendan carr he had a pretty good thorough breakdown of this about it's explaining very clearly the hoops that have to be jumped through you know it's really threading a needle this legislation but in terms of the people that are losing their minds over this i mean these people are just traumatized by federal government legislation being weaponized in the past right i understand there's probably some some bad faith arguments but there's also people like the libertarians which i cover i mean they they have they basically lived with that trauma for a long time you know so they see this and they're just triggered

instantly right which i kind of understand i can sympathize with that yeah but it's not on the page right exactly i knew nothing about this until tim explained that and like just listening to the last three minutes there's so much criteria that would have to be met to qualify anything for this it seems totally reasonable to me yeah like we all have ptsd of our government you know running afoul and using these pieces of legislation with crazy names to you know take away our rights there isn't even a single mention of the individual within this bill uh you know the restrict act got a ton of pushback because it could penalize an individual it could send you know give you a felony charge, all these different things. Individual isn't even mentioned in here. The only group penalized is a mega corporation. So here's a tweet from Brendan Carr of the FCC.

He says it would be concerning to many if the bill allowed this in reference to Carlson. It does not. The text is definitive on this point. The bill does not apply to just any social media platform. Far from it. Here is the only and targeted application. One, if an individual user, the bill confers zero authority to the government over you. Two, the bill only applies to applications controlled by one of four foreign adversary governments previously codified in law by Congress, China, Iran, North Korea, or Russia. An act of Congress would be required to change that. The bill is clear that it is not enough to merely have operations there or do business there.

It must be controlled by one of those four governments. Three, even then, the bill only applies if the application presents a demonstrated and significant threat to national security. Control by one of the foreign governments alone isn't even enough under the bill. And then, only after public process provided and Congress reported to with a description of the specific national security threat. Now, that number four doesn't mean much to me. If a president want to make an argument for a threat, he's going to make his argument

and Congress going to go, oh, well, OK, then. So that doesn't mean a whole lot. He says every single one of those hoops and more must be cleared and met. So it is very narrow. It confers no authority to go after any other application, even if someone were to allege that it engaged in election interference. So in the event X or rumble was accused of like, say, by Ocasio-Cortez to Joe Biden of interference, then he's going to say, what what interest does this app have in one of these four nations? And if so, what threat does this app pose to our national security? And if so,

then we'll start by asking them to divest from that individual or or or country. Yeah. I mean, really think about what we know about by dance has originated entirely from leaked internal documents that have been given to journalists at Forbes that we really don't even know a whole lot about this company. We know a whole lot about X and Rumble, right? They're American companies. Rumble is publicly traded. X was formerly publicly traded.

They have a lot of reporting requirements. Americans are loud mouths, right? We talk about everything. We would know if these companies were compromised. It would be a very clear paper trail. There's just no pathway to this. And that's why this is so frustrating. It's like we're talking in circles.

Let's start with this question should a foreign country have the right to dictate to 170 million people in this country now how many are actually active young people on the platform but to millions of people in this country what is culturally relevant should the united states allow the communist party of china to set the standard for content in the United States for its young generation. You guys, to all of these people

who are saying like this bill is bad. I wonder how many of these exact same people have spammed the Yuri Bezmenov video about communists trying to infiltrate the country to infect the minds of our youth. And then we see on TikTok,

what do you get? Dylan Mulvaney. The easiest example, because so many people are so concerned about how this unwell individual generates 10 million plus followers. They're intentionally jamming the stuff in the face of our young people to cause them self-harm. Now, what happens? Donald Trump says, we got to shut this down. It's one of the most egregious

censors. It is one of the most woke, notorious woke applications. And Trump says, let's stop this because it's, it's, they're, they're, they're tipping the scales against us. Democrats don't care. They say, no, we won't do it. And for sure, what came out of that was not good. Then Israel, Palestine happens. And all of a sudden, you've got a bunch of politicians being like, wait, wait, wait, China is showing, I think it's 10 times more content of Palestine as the victims relative to Israel. I'm not here to make an argument for either of these countries. Because of that, now you get members of Congress saying, okay, now we finally agree, we want to make a move against this app.

They cite data capture as an issue. And that is a serious issue because it allows seriously the Communist Party of China to determine who votes and who doesn't vote. If you thought it was bad that Mark Zuckerberg put 500 million dollars into elections, that Mark Zuckerberg can send out, Dr. Robert Epstein told us 100 in their test jurisdiction when they're tracking election manipulation, 100 percent of Democrats got a reminder to go vote. And only I think he's at 59 percent of Republicans got one. That is how you rig an election. That's bad.

I think we should have legislation or something to stop Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, anybody, Rumble, from doing things like that. Why would we just be like, but it's okay that China does it. All I can say is, baby steps, I guess. I don't see how this bill could be done in literally any other way, seriously. Unless it just outright said like, for the purpose of this bill, TikTok is not allowed to operate in this this country the crazy thing is the bill is not even that authoritarian it allows tiktok just to sell off its chinese stake and then it can keep operating like normal it's actually kind of weak yeah well you think about how nice of a gesture this is for a country that has been collecting troves of data who has been surveilling american journalists

you know tracing down their sources inside of China and harassing them, you know, sending blackout challenge videos to 12 year olds, encouraging them to kill themselves, encouraging young girls to become anorexic, you know, posting all of this, you know, vile content that we're taking in every single day and we're still allowing them to profit off of it. Let's answer this question.

So, because people are really trying to understand this. And I think what's happening is a lot of people are hearing talking points from social media pundits who did not read the bill so nick uh uh tepstra terpstra sorry says tim what does this mean then quote a social media company that is controlled by a foreign adversary and has been determined by the president to present a significant threat to national security sure it means it's a social media app that exists that that is controlled by north korea china iran or russia the president must determine the national security threat provide a report to congress and then if this this enforcement action moves forward, said social media app, unfortunately,

must sell off the portion of its company or divest from these foreign nations. It doesn't even ban them. Only if they don't do it. So TikTok, a portion of it is owned by China. When you operate a company in China, you have to be under the Communist Party. They would never allow the U.S. to do that in their country. And they have, I believe, a board seat. Is that correct? Correct. Yeah. One percent ownership stake in a board seat.

And so this bill is basically like, hey, TikTok, that one percent stake has to be sold off. And that guy can't be on the board. That's what the bill says. That's it. And for all other apps, it would mean that in the event a social media app, website, destination, etc., that it has to meet all the criteria of a social media platform. Meaning, I believe it has to have more than a million users. It does, yeah. You have to be able to log in. You have to be able to post content. The content has to be shared by the platform to other users who get to log in and view it. Very specific. content has to be shared by the platform to other users who get to log into and view it very specific

in that circumstance if a percentage of the company is owned by uh owned or controlled by individuals in one of four countries the president can submit a report demanding that they divest from that country that's it right that's it so they basically they're just saying like you can't you could still turn tiktok a, you're constantly spamming all this stuff, but you just can't do it to people personalized once they log in. Unless you give up the one communist party seat that's in this company right now in China. Also. It's kind of wild that, you know, when Tom Cotton was interviewing the CEO of TikTok, he asked him very good questions. Have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?

He's like, no, I'm from Singapore. Have you ever served or worked with? No, I'm from Singapore. Oh, geez, I can't believe I'm being asked these questions. That guy led investment rounds for many Chinese-owned companies. So it's a good question to ask. And then you get a bunch of young leftists being like, Tom Cotton is so stupid. Why would he ask such a good question to ask and then you get a bunch of young uh leftists being like tom cotton is so stupid why would he ask such a dumb question if this bill passes and it likely

will what is likely going to happen or i should say i don't know if it'll happen because a tiktok is saying they won't do it right yeah they're saying they're not going to divest which you know you gotta just see it through we won't know until it's on so think about this tiktok with all of its claims about how big its platform is and i don't know if i believe their claims in my personal opinion it seems fishy to me that tiktok would have as many users as they claim to have they would be willing to shut their company down in the united states instead of selling off a 1% stake. That makes no sense. Well, you know, it wouldn't be like a hundred billion dollar transfer if they sold to a U.S. company like proper divestment. This is a massive sale.

And that's when a lot of the speculation has been floating around of like, who's going to buy it? There's plenty of runners out there. Yeah, well, it's like even Sam Altman has, you know, name has been thrown out for this. But, you know, it really begs the question of like, what is there that you're not comfortable divesting from? It is not the monetary value. It is the access to the American people. It becomes very clear that that is what they are trying desperately to hold on to. It's the ability to send you a push notification. I'm not a hardcore libertarian where I'd sit back

and be like, I think it's perfect. I can't imagine why someone would think it's perfectly acceptable that china can manipulate and interfere in our elections directly and and i've heard every argument about oh facebook facebook and twitter were interfering and russia was interfering russia posting memes spare me china having a board seat and control of an app that is pushing the likes of Dylan Mulvaney on the young generation. OK, fine. You think this bill is bad? I still think we need to take action to limit TikTok or have it divest from from the Chinese Communist Party. But if look, this is the issue I take with most of the libertarians is that they're like, yes, the communists are crossing the southern border and they're Yuri Bezmenov was right. They're trying to overthrow American institutions.

But we should not take enforcement action against them because of free speech or TikTok isn't breaking the nap, not aggressive principle. So and there's open border libertarians that will probably make that argument, oddly enough. Yeah. So all I can say is this. You're allowed to not agree with this bill. We don't have to see eye to eye, but I can tell you that 99% of the pundits on social media that are sharing, sharing clips from like snippets from this haven't read it. Yeah. Because when, when they're saying things like it could ban a website,

I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

It can ban a website run directly by the government of one of four countries. And if like a North Korean guy somehow got a website from his country that a social media platform and with a million users there's no way i just the the absurdity of what people are saying is the president could ban any website that's based in iran that is a social media platform with more than a million users and i'm like if they don I'm like, if they don't divest, yeah, if they don't divest. It's very strange to me to see so many high profile people attacking this, and it makes no sense. Yeah. Well, I think, you know, corporate interest in DC is very compelling. A lot of money is flowing. And those people who we view as, you know, great stewards of our message in many instances can be swayed by these things. And, you know, it's a shame that it is that way. I think, you know, you look at the

big tech legislation that we've tried to pass over the last like 10 years, every single bill fails, right? Like, it is not just TikTok, it is every company, they come to DC, and they make all these big spends. But this is the right thing to do. This is for the American people, it makes us safer, it makes your son and daughter's data safe and secure in the States. And that is really what this is about. It's about, you know, basically putting America first and ensuring that we're not digitally vulnerable to our foremost adversary. I mean, but the thing is, even though they failed the reading test, I do tend to sympathize with these people that see a bipartisan piece of legislation with this much support, and they just start seething, you know, and they probably can't even read straight. You know, their vision's getting

blurry because they're seeing this happen. And, you know, like I said earlier, but yeah, I mean, you guys are making a good point. I follow up. I think it's going to pass. Yeah, I can settle, sign it. Yeah, I think there's a very clear pathway at this point. Unfortunately, it looks like the Democrats will likely get the victory out of this. And I think this is a Republican issue. I think this is something that we took the lead on. You know, the Trump executive order set the tone here. The Heritage Foundation, where I work, we were sounding the alarm well before the Trump executive order. As early as like 2018, we were making waves about this.

This should have been a Republican victory. And we are just giving it to the Democrats. That's unfortunate, but it's the reality. And it doesn't mean we shouldn't pass this. It is a win for the American people at the end of the day. Well, we'll see. But let's jump to some of the other big news of the day. We have this one from The Washington Post. Georgia judge dismisses six charges in Trump election interference case. He now faces 10 charges out of 13. He is still accused of criminally conspiring to try to overturn the 2020 presidential election

this is interesting so i think yes he dismissed six of the 41 counts in the indictment against trump and his allies from 47 to 41 and i think uh like the principle the the main dismissal here is like that phone call where he said find me you know find me the votes yeah yeah the left world came out and the democrats they were like find me he's saying to make them and i was like or he's saying like count the votes and recount them and and and figure out what happened or what's going on it's just that simple but a lot of people are saying that this is in an indication that he's not going to dismiss fannie willis and so it's big news i don't know what there is to really say about it other other than like we get what's going on in this country. Country's being ripped apart. I do actually, you know, throwing it back to the previous segment.

I think it's funny that we have a bipartisan effort in this this tick tock tick tock divestment bill. Why would anyone in this country actually find common ground on something is very strange, especially when stuff like this is happening. Yeah, I mean, it's a total sham show trial that they're just targeting our leader. Right. I mean, it's clear as day at this point. There is really no merit to the case. They are making one out of thin air and they're trying to drain resources. Did you see the Robert Herr testimony? Just snippets, obviously, is more tick tock related to this today. Right, right, right. Yeah. And so seeing this, you know, we had we had Kurt Mills on the show yesterday and the members only we argued a bit. I just feel like Republicans do absolutely nothing. And someone someone commented, Republicans hold office, Democrats hold power. And I was like, yeah, that sounds about right. That's that's exactly what's going on the challenge i guess is when uh kurt and i were discussing the issue of abortion on the members only show his attitude was very much political victories are more

important than moral victories and so what i see with the republican party is a bunch of uh conservative morals wearing a moderate mask to try and convince people they're moderates and i'm just confused by that. I'm confused. You know, with the with Donald Trump and the MAGA party, people like Marjorie Taylor Greene have no problem telling you what their morals are. They will strongly stand by them. They'll say, you know, no, abortion is bad. I don't care. But then there are a lot of people in the Republican Party who play the game of trying to be friends with Democrats who despise and hate them and will criminally charge them in seconds, lock them

in gulags, but they're trying to win by masking their morals and not making an argument for why their morals are right. Yeah. How is there supposed to be any right wing victory ever if there's quite literally just a center and a left arguing over what to do? Yeah. Well, it's like we're scared to own that we're conservative, right? You walk around town and everyone wants to be invited to the party. They like to play nice, so they get to

go to the nice, fancy fundraisers. And that really just hurts the middle Americans, right, that are actually sending these representatives there to get legislation across the finish line. And it never materializes. And we get these like political victories that are like signaling bills and they change a couple of words. But when morale is so low in this country, when the former president is on trial, you need moral victories, right? You need morale to be boosted across the country or else people don't go out to the ballot box, right? Like you actually have to show that things are getting better. Ride the Metro, right? Like it is an absolute mess in this country. You can't walk downtown. You got, you know, our daughters, you send off to college and they never come home.

Who is going to the ballot box, right? Like, that is really where things start to hit the fan. And, like, we have to look in the mirror and ask ourselves, when will you get the morale lift? Because it doesn't come from these little political bills. Right. You know, I see with, when the George

Floyd incident happened, a bunch of conservatives came out and they were like, wow, this is really bad. We're here. We stand with the left. And then once things started to become clear, many of them were like, OK, wait a minute, something else is going on here. But then the Ahmaud Arbery thing happened and a whole bunch of conservatives went, see, this proves we're not racist. And I was like, why are you trying to prove to communists that you're not racist instead of standing on your morals and telling them to shut up? So you got all these people in the middle of the road and they have only one one moral framework being argued to them. It's leftist.

Many people on the right are saying are refusing to engage because of luck, but then I won't get any votes. And I'm like, OK, well, then the run of the mill individual in this country does not hear the moral argument at all and can't even agree with it because they don't know it exists. So if your position is that abortion is bad and should be outlawed completely, but you feel like I would never win if I said that. So you only ever argue it should be restricted. Great. The average person hears two arguments, unrestricted and lightly restricted. And then no one has ever made the point to them. Maybe we

shouldn't allow it at all. This is what we end up seeing with the criminal charges against Trump. Why? Why don't Republicans criminally charge Joe Biden? Well, because it could be bad for them and they might not win an election. It's more important to win the election. And I'm like, maybe for the average person in this country, they need to see Joe Biden put in cuffs so they can be convinced he's done things wrong. And so long as Republicans keep saying, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that. Otherwise, we won't win. Then the American people just see Donald Trump being arrested and think he must be guilty.

And Joe Biden doesn't. He must be innocent. Right. It's like the left is always appealing to emotions in that. I feel like the Republicans are trying not to to do that but there is kind of like a fine there's there's a middle ground where you kind of have to do that at some point like it's not always the best to not just use logic and reasoning to to get to people but you have to with the in this case i feel like well it's like we have all these promises of these uh impeachment

trials and these investigations and you know we've done a lot of investigations but where are the impeachment trials now suddenly we're you know months away from election day and we have like a one seat majority due to all these like sudden retirements. And so we just totally piss away everything we worked for. And now we don't even have a pathway to actualize, materialize any of these things. So you campaign and then you just go, well, we'll get them next time. Right. And it's like at a certain point, people stop believing there's going to be a next time. And that is kind of where we're at. Like morale is very low. We do not think things are going to get better.

And there needs to be a figurehead, a leader that is going to pull us out of it. It's Trump. And that's why they're going after him. That's why I feel like the end result of all this is just things get bad. To what degree? I don't know. You know, but that's why I'm always saying that culture is substantially more important that's why tiktok is so dangerous it completely undermines cultural efforts from those opposing

the woke machine and it's foreign controlled so you can't even you can't even do proper FOIA requests against them to figure out what's going on like you're ever gonna get you know with uh let me say this if tiktok is forced to divest and they actually do and you get rumble or some american interest buying it imagine the emails that get released you thought the twitter files were wild wait for the tiktok files force them to divest so that we get an american company and you know what the funny thing is you'll get democrats on board with it you know why because it's going to show the chinese Communist Party saying things like, we want to manipulate, we want to interfere. And even Democrats are going to be like, we're going to have brownie points with this, publish it. Or you'll find out that what you were thinking about the potentially not realness of all these people, that could be a thing. Yeah, well, you know, what's really interesting here is just like the Facebook files and the Twitter files, there are likely TikTok files where the White House was in active communication

with a Chinese-owned enterprise like TikTok on the basis of content moderation. You look back a couple of Earth days ago, and the TikTok app actually banned climate denialism. And it totally stopped any of the messaging on banning TikTok in the States. And that is a concession, right? You look at the fact pattern of the Facebook files and the Twitter files, it stopped all criticisms of the content moderation regime.

They did the exact same playbook and suddenly TikTok is like in clean, totally good standing. And then it takes, you know, a crisis to basically bring it back into question. And that is where we're at. And there are definitely interesting skeletons to be unearthed in the case of a divestment. I actually think, you know,

just to bring these stories together, the the tick tock thing is a really great example of why there there is no real right wing in this country. There there is no organized, unified structure sharing an ideology that wants to accomplish anything doesn't exist. The left has it. AOC will say whatever they tell her to say. I mean, she just wants to be there. So Democrats just, I mean, there's a, there's a, there's a viral video of these two young girls being interviewed. And, uh, they're asked how many genders there are. One girl starts answering the other girl says, no, no, stop. Don't say that on camera. Maybe it's fake. I don't know, but those things certainly are real. And I've experienced one of them too. Like it happened to me when a woman was speaking

to me on camera and then tried to get me to delete the the no, no, no, delete that, delete that. You can't you can't show that they are terrified to oppose the machine on the right. It's just infighting all day, every day, nonstop. And I'm sitting here wondering why we can't get criminal charges on Joe Biden, despite knowing for a fact he committed a crime. He he all elements of the crime were were met and he expressed intent and expressed uh his desire for financial gain from taking the documents and sharing them which is an additional crime no charges none and what's the argument for it that we we don't want to charge biden because then he might win in november and i'm like, Democrats literally go around mercilessly beating people. And I don't mean like Nancy Pelosi.

I mean like progressive left-of-the-line and Democrat-of-the-line nonprofits and activists will go out and they'll beat people while advocating for Joe Biden. When you had people protesting in front of a hospital, protesting masks, Antifa should have beat the crap out of them and got into a fight. And it's like they are willing to fight and beat people for this and republicans are like don't tell anyone your opinion otherwise they might vote the other way my question to all the republicans who think you shouldn't express your your direct opinion and i don't think it's this audience for the most part my question is why do you think it is the average person disagrees with your worldview do you think you were wrong is the reason why you're unwilling to criminally charge joe biden out of fear that you're wrong to do so if you are right and you are justified it should be easy to explain why you're right you're justified in doing it yet for some reason it doesn't happen yeah i mean it's

really interesting you're always told in dc you know this just isn't the right time you have this perfect bill but you know just give us a couple more months the political climate will be better it'll pass with flying colors and it's like the exact same fact pattern here with the biden trials you get all this great evidence and like just give us one more month just wait long enough till it's not relevant anymore that will strike when it's right and then it just never happens and now we're at the end of this congress. You know, it's coming to a close. They're all going to leave to go campaign. Nothing really is going to happen until Election Day. And we didn't get anything. And so like, what compels you to go vote again? You know, if the time is never right, we had the majority. Now we have one seat left. Like, when are you ever going to actually get a win? And it's not clear.

Even if Donald Trump wins in november and when you look at the congressional general ballot polling it's looking favorable for republicans but trump might win and you still might lose congress because what could happen is a lot of people say joe biden now i'm voting for donald trump but i don't like republicans so i'm going to vote for the democrat in my district because he seems like a nice guy then you end up with trump who can't do anything they impeach him again instantly they declare him an insurrectionist and they will do everything it's wild that democrats can have uh republicans have the same majority as democrats did when they won in 2022 and they did nothing isn't that crazy yeah democrats impeach trump twice yeah that's wild

all right let's jump to let's jump some cultural news we have this uh from valutainment this one i found to be completely shocking when the news broke a couple hours ago chris cuomo joins valutainment this is patrick bett david's show and he hired chris cuomo and i don't know why and it's a shocking move and i'm seeing a lot of people now we even got some super chats already for people calling the for the boycott of patrick bett david's uh show over this i don't know about that i mean maybe i wouldn't watch if chris cuomo was on it but that's mostly because he's not entertaining to watch perhaps their numbers were good. I really doubt it. I do not understand the move in bringing on this piece of human garbage into value.

And I like Patrick, but David is a smart guy. He's a good guy. He got a standing ovation. He lit the crowd up at our Miami event with his passion speech about, you know, Christians, you got to stop tolerating evil and letting these people do what they want.

And then he hires Chris Cuomo. So I'll tell you my thoughts on this before i show you uh you know the state the response from patrick by david chris cuomo uh helped defend his brother andrew and when when andrew cuomo ordered that confirmed covid patients be placed in nursing homes nursing homes could not turn them away this is estimated to to have resulted in, I don't like Letitia James. So let's argue from the low end, 8,500 individuals up to the high end of 15,000. Letitia James led the investigation into Andrew Cuomo and found that his orders killed up to 15. She said 15,000. I believe that was her report. Now, Cuomo argues it was guidance from the trump administration but even politifact says that is not true the reality is cuomo likely did not want to give trump a victory

so he ordered these people into the nursing home or the nursing homes not turn them away and killed 15 000 people maybe 8 500 but if you believe leticia james 15 000 he was going on chris cuomo his brother's show in a direct conflict of interest, and they're making jokes and laughing while Chris Cuomo said one protest don't need to be peaceful, defending violent riots across this country. Chris Cuomo advocated for the stripping of your rights and freedoms. And then Chris Cuomo pretended to be in quarantine, went out to his property with his family, got confronted by a guy who said, aren't you supposed to be in quarantine? Cuomo then went on his radio show on Sirius XM and said, why do I got to deal with this guy coming up to me and saying these things? Confirming it happened. And then one week later on CNN, he goes, it's official. Here it is. I get to leave my basement. The dude is a duplicitous liar who has no following, who generates nothing, who lies, who advocates

against the rights of the American people and the world, who opposes your rights to medical freedom. And for some reason, I have no idea why, Patrick Bet-David, Valuetainment said, we're going to hire this guy. Well, I'd like to turn this black pill into a white pill if I can. Okay, I think this problem is going to sort itself out, and it's going to happen really fast. Because, okay, so he doesn't have an audience. I'm not convinced that he has an audience to speak of.

We were going through his Twitter. There's nobody there. But the people, if he does have an audience, it's the lazy corporatists that slop on. They still pay for cable, and they slop on CNN. And they're like, oh, yeah, Cuomo's on. I guess I'll watch him. They're not going to follow Chris Cuomo to wherever he is. You know, so I think the numbers Patrick David says he believes capitalism.

I think it's going to I think it's going to play out. Just it's kind of weird, though, because like other than music stuff, I watch a lot of law and crime. And I started seeing Cuomo pop up on News Nation one day. I'm like, OK, he's trying to reinvent himself just using his law degree as an attorney. Hundred percent. Maybe this is going to be mostly factual based arguments and stuff but then as i watched news nation i'm like i don't actually think that person's guilty and they're all jumping to obvious conclusions this is the cnn of of law and crime

news and it's so weird because his nation is well to me yeah like i used to watch them a lot and i'm like this is they're they're saying this guy's guilty. They're releasing fake things of evidence and stuff that they're later retracting. And it's just, that's par for the course for like a Cuomo place. It's scary. I, you know,

maybe, maybe X is not a good indicator of audience, but like here's from March 10th, Chris come with one retweet. Here's one with nine retweets. Here's one with two retweets here's one with two retweets six retweets one 14 i'll tell you what chris cuomo is he's propped up by cnn he has no following he's not he if he put on a show and said i'll be at a coffee shop nobody would show up literally literally no one would show up if he was like hey i'm gonna be at

this local coffee shop uh hanging out come hang out nobody shows up maybe one guy passes by and says oh yeah i saw twitter that's cool anyway see you later he can't he can't sell out a venue i don't understand the move and why it's being made so anyway uh patrick bet david responded to me saying tim i trust capitalism one of these days the market will wake up and realize what our vision was all along i'm extremely comfortable being misunderstood before the market validates our vision. I respect your impatience with our vision. In the meantime, keep kicking ass. I like the guy.

He's a very smart guy. He's a very good guy. But this is this is a mistake. This is unquestionably mistake. His argument is that Cuomo brings in another side. You know, the argument, I guess, is that cuomo represents the democrat voter and they want to reach those people but he doesn't nobody watches cuomo what are his ratings on news nation like 10k if that yeah well i think you know you made an interesting point there of like uh will

his audience even follow him you know what audience does he have the audience didn't follow him once he left cnn and you, it just continues to fall off. And now he's at this new home. And in theory, he's bringing in this new side. But like, really, there's nothing left. And I really don't know why we're participating in this like brand rehabilitation for such a sick, horrible person. That was part of, as you mentioned, this horrible crisis in New York. This cover up. I mean, he's evil.

Yeah. Horrible. This is not a question of like, I disagree with this man. No, this is an evil guy. He was saying you should be locked in your house. You should be forced to be vaccinated. You should be forced to be masked. Violent riots are a good thing.

He's the reason why we got that viral video where the kid was eating the ramen who said it's right there in the First Amendment. He says, who says protests have to be peaceful? Oh, yeah. And he's like, it's right there in the First Amendment. Peaceably assemble. This is a guy who propagandized for his brother who murdered people this is a guy who advocated you should have no rights and it's a guy who lied to your face and pretended to be under quarantine to advocate for authoritarian lockdowns he should be he look by all means

interview the guy but hiring him yeah it's crazy. It makes you really wonder what this vision is that he's imagining. What role is he going to play at value tournament? Talent roster, that's hilarious. Talent roster? Well, no, like he's in the rotating group of talent. So he'll be appearing on the show periodically. I don't see... Yeah, I don't see it.

No. PPD goes CNN. Yeah, I don't see it. No. PBD goes CNN. Congratulations, I guess. He's got to elaborate on his vision, I guess. I'm trying to think of a positive to bring to this, but it's very difficult. It won't last. There's no way it's going to last.

I can't imagine it will! This is going to sort itself out. Well, there are already people saying boycott PBD. He's got a big show. He's got one of the biggest shows in the world with Valuetainment. But I can't quite understand uh a move like this is it just an interview would have been cool they did an interview they did a couple i know he's been doing the interview rounds but i noticed that too did strange did any did you guys watch the

tucker carlson cuomo thing i haven't just the highlights yeah yeah i've not seen it either probably should watch it because I don't know whether or not he's ever been challenged on faking quarantine. I'd be willing to bet that whenever he's booked, he's like,

don't bring up quarantine. I think I saw a clip where Tucker kind of brings it up in passing, but all the clips that I saw, they're just like yucking it up and having a good time and kind of ribbing each other.

It didn't seem like a legitimate, I'm going to hold you to questions. I'm going to talk to you about having your bloodthirsty brother on air and then joking with him with prop humor remember how he had the giant tips just indefensible indefensible yeah the clip i saw from tucker was uh he cuomo asked him like what did you like what what issue did you take with my positions and

tucker was like medical freedom and i was like oh mine was the your brother murdered people and you helped cover it up and you know like you lied about being in court did you ever apologize for that or take responsibility people like chris cuomo don't apologize they don't apologize andrew cuomo blamed trump saying it was trump's guidelines to do this it was a bunch of democrat governors who murdered a bunch of people during covid and it's i think the worrying thing to me is that people are forgetting they're forgetting just how bad things really were and they want to and i can understand wanting to yeah that's true you know it's not like memory hole effect right like everyone always talks about it where did the x incident just like disappear to um and they happen almost it feels like on a weekly basis now i remember waking up in the

morning and watching trump give like because he was the president at the time and i would basically live to listen to what was going on and then they like just stopped covering him one day and then all you had left was cuomo and they would start out with the death count yeah like now i'm forced to get my information from andrew cuomo the death count man is so wild. CNN had a side of the screen dedicated to showing you death. Stay inside. Because here's why. If you want a really bizarre experience, check out Tom Woods' new book. It came out a few

months ago. Tom Woods was debunking this in real time with his newsletters starting in March of 2020. This book is just a 400-page compendium of all of his newsletters. It takes you through. As I was reading, I was was just like god like i had memories that were just unlocking you know but he was at least one person was keeping track you know and it's it's really fascinating to see like what we all went through and like where we're at now isn't it crazy that it's 2024 yeah i don't

believe it wow can't accept it man the crazy thing as i was i was reading a segment because you know i guess the other big news is that trump is the official nominee now he he got the delegates and so the rnc will come and then they'll officially announce it but he's got the delegates and they're talking about how gen z is uh the highest has the highest trump favorability the craziest thing gen z uh of all age demographics has the highest rate of support for Donald Trump. Sixty four percent. Well, I'm Gen Z. Right.

And I think, you know, we've been put through hell. You know, you look at our education pathway starting at essentially kindergarten was this like introduction of all sorts of craziness. And you make it through university and they never relent. They just keep going after you and they throw you into the workforce. You get a job that is paying one one hundredth of what your parents were. You have to sit through diversity inclusion training. Your boss yells at you every day. And you know, like you have all these kids that are like feeling lost.

It's very rare that they actually find a good home. It's like you go through hell through the university system and it wasn't for nothing. And then you have all this debt and you look at someone like Trump who wants to upend everything and it's like yeah how would gen z not like this guy um he's definitely the the voice that brought me to washington and it's the same thing for most of my friends um it was really what made us move out here so young gen z and uh late gen z and early gen alpha their brains are fried from covid i was reading a thread from a teacher talking about what they're finding in education studies but like that it's it's wild they're like kids entering high school who can't do multiplication kids entering high school who

don't know how to form proper sentences who don't know what imperative or interrogative means they don't know how to capitalize they don't know how to find uh they don't know basic algebra and things like this and there are kids that are in middle school that can't even read because of what they did with locking down these schools oh man yeah that's right yeah i mean look it's 10 of a kid's life when they're when they're nine ten years old and you lock them down for an entire school year that's a huge portion of missed development and they're the most important it's the most important time of your life. I'm really interested in what's going to be like in 10 years when you've got not even 10 years,

eight years when you've got a early gen alpha beginning to vote and they're going to be unable to read. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, look at the, you know, not just the lockdown when they get sent back to school, they're sitting in these like plexiglass boxes wearing masks. They're not allowed to socialize with their friends. We basically sent a generation to prison for like two years of their formative years. And then we expect for them to come out and have this like favorable view of the system. But also that they're going to be functional and they're absolutely not going to be. And how do you correct that?

Are we just going to have like this dead generation that's like we're gonna have to carry for the rest of time and what makes it even worse is that like kids on the younger end of gen alpha like something i'm hearing i got a three-year-old and he's got a speech delay and what we kept hearing is just like oh they all have speech delays now that's just because because they're waiting for more stuff to like well they i mean like he was born in the middle of 2020 you know so it's like's like, I mean, that's young, young gen alpha. But I mean, you think about like, you're either at home because you can't go anywhere or when you do go somewhere, everybody's wearing a mask. So there is a generation,

there does seem to be this trend of really young kids that just didn't see that the mouth speaking, you know? And they're all, they all have speech delays. Yeah, and like how crazy is it? The doctor just tells you like, oh, don't worry, everyone has one. Yeah. And it's like, you're supposed to be like,

oh, that makes it better. Doctors, teachers, consultants, oh, don't worry. Everyone has one. Yeah. And it's supposed to be like, oh, that makes doctors, teachers, consultants. I've heard that from a lot of parents. Yeah. It's a really disturbing trend. Yeah. I want to jump to the story. I don't know a whole lot about it, but it's fun. So we'll talk about it.

It's kind of scary. Kate Middleton. Is that the princess of Wales? Is that her? Yes. Yeah. John Oliver said, quote, there is a non-zero chance that she died 18 months ago. I've not really followed this story all that much.

Basically, what happens is this. It's actually right here. This photoshopped image emerges of Kate Middleton and her kids. I guess I really don't know a lot about the royal families or whatever. But basically, correct me. I really don't know a whole lot about the royal families or whatever. But basically, correct me if I'm wrong, I mean, the story is like Kate Middleton went on sabbatical and was gone for a long time. And then everyone's like,

oh, she's back, but it's just text and newspaper. And then these photos come out, more than one photo, that are of her photoshopped. And then John Oliver, not a fan of the guy, sparks outrage by saying there's a non-zero chance she died 18 months ago. Yeah, you know, this is one of those weird ones that kind of spun up in these little like subcultures on social media.

And everyone's tracking this like the princess disappeared. Where'd she go? And you have this post, which is essentially supposed to be like proof of life from the royal family. Like they're putting us out to quell the craziness on social media. And there's the photo right there. Look at all of these like inconsistencies like the sleeve is vanished so it's like obviously photoshopped and then what was eventually discovered was uh the face was like pulled from a vogue magazine cover

uh one-to-one copy like obviously photoshopped and it was actually you know a news blast went out to different agencies of like pull this from from your articles. Like, this is not a real image. There was like a delisting from one of these like NewsGuard type groups saying like, pull this. Don't put this in your cover because it's a fake photo. And then they doubled down. They post another one. It's fake too. That's like, this is kind of getting crazy, right?

I mean, what's the second photo? It's in her in a car. It's like her side profile. And, you know, you see the exact dimple and they pull from is it this one yes yeah you can't even see her face yeah and so they actually pull another image from her in another magazine and it's one-to-one copy again whoa it's not her um and you know there's this is kind of it's also speculative but like this is pretty bad like why haven't you come out at this point and proven she's alive or at least in good health right like this is is wild. Like, why haven't you come out at this point and proven she's alive? Or at least in good health, right?

Like, this is wild. I don't know. Like, stuff like this happens. Remember when that football player collapsed on the field? Yeah. Everyone said he was dead. And then some dude showed up wearing a mask and, like, waving.

And everyone's like, what's going on? And then, like, a week later, he's like, oh, yeah, here I am. And we're like, oh. I was like, I swear, he's going to come out and y'all are getting tricked or whatever. But this is kind of crazy. I can't imagine she's dead. I mean, maybe she got, like, I swear he's going to come out and y'all like y'all getting tricked or whatever. But this is kind of crazy. I can't imagine she's dead.

I mean, maybe maybe she got like a botched surgery or something. Yeah. Well, I think the real interesting part of the story, you know, obviously we hope she's good and well, is that we've reached this point in time on social media in particular where a very real lifelike image, you have to zoom in and analyze each granular detail to affirm that it's real. Oh, this is Kate Gate. Yeah. I didn't know what that was when I saw it on Twitter, because I don't care about the Royal family. Yeah. But I mean, it's really, it's hitting this

point and, you know, obviously the election's right around the corner. You can't confirm any photo is real independently. Like there is really no proof unless you were there that this thing even happened and it's happening very quickly. and the average person has no idea that this is even possible and then it gets posted from a news agency and now it's fact and it happens that quickly she was apparently at some kind of christmas service with her family somebody sent me something about it i don't know so basically i learn of this because the view erupts into chaos during a fiery debate over Kate Middleton's Photoshopping controversy as Whoopi Goldberg slams co-hosts for buying into conspiracy theories. Oh, man. You know, life's fun sometimes, right?

Oh, I guess. Yeah. What is this? They think it's fake. Oh, even the view said that photo was fake. Wow. I don't know if we should care about this princess or whatever. It must be real.

I just think these stories are fascinating where it's like prominent, high-profile people are missing. Yeah, I mean, it's like for every one of these we catch, how many do we miss, right? Like when they do these fake photo blasts and it's obviously Photoshopped or AI-generated, how many do we miss that go into the history books as fact well if you think this is fun look into britney spears and the fact that she is definitely not alive like oh yeah yeah because like all those little inconsistencies that were pointed out there if you go through all tiktok i'm sorry but if you go through the rabbit holes on tiktok there are tons and tons of people that have spent hours going through her videos.

Not photos, but videos. And none of it makes sense. Because you see all these crazy videos of Britney Spears, right? It's all filmed from the same angle in the same direction. Same angle, same direction. But like her eyes get blurry and they change. Like her fingers turn into like two fingers. I mean, it's crazy.

AI generated video. Could be. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm sold on it, but then I'm crazy. I haven't looked into it, but I'm going to now. Bon voyage. Honestly, it could just be she has a crappy camera on a tripod in the same spot.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, we're in this era now where you can't just believe. You can't believe anything. Right. I mean, we're lucky that how do you even put out such a bad photoshop right i mean this is like a gift it's uh it's like a clue was given to us because it's so egregiously pulled from that i think it was

vogue magazine covered the first one uh they could have chosen much more obscure photo that was harder to track down and this is like google search results first page potentially, one-to-one face replica. And so it really is just crazy. It was a Vogue cover, you said? I believe it was Vogue, yeah. If you do it with Kate Gate, it probably comes right... Actually, that photo right there on the side. Oh, wow.

Go one to the... Take the mouse over. Yeah, that one with the... Yeah. So they've done the comparison. Oh, they... Oh, I see, oh i see i see wow oh yeah wow it's the exact same face i mean some people are really good in the same face what to be fair well they layer them and they like slowly make it yeah you reduce the alpha and so that they blend together and then you you notice like they're all the same

yeah well then you zoom in on these other inconsistencies and it's like the uh arms have different uh fields of depth right like yeah nothing syncs up uh once you get that first clue like the whole thing falls apart so is paul mccartney still alive no he's a lizard he's a he's a reptilian yeah well because you know that one right that paul mccartney died you guys don't know that one no you know that one oh yeah yeah yeah paul is dead and it played i mean play the record backward it supposedly said paul is dead everybody said that they switched him out for a body double yep yeah because they were worth too much money you can't have the band stop now we're getting paid if paul's not there and so then the

conspiracy theory shows like at this point you know so to pump paul mccartney's in a car accident says he got like a minor scar or something at the same time there's a paul mccartney look-alike contest they they hold i don't really i don't know if this is true or whatever but then it's a lot of fun though it's like right this is a conspiracy theory that paul was swapped out because there was too much money made and they couldn't just shut it down and i watched this this video on it on youtube i think and they're like around the time of the car accident you'll notice that paul and john stopped playing next to each other they used to stand on stage and sing in the same microphone and they were friends after this accident all of a sudden they're not friends

anymore and this is why the band eventually breaks up because john knows it's not actually paul or whatever so then since he finds out they have to get rid of him too and then no no no because john lennon the whole time but later down the line no no the the band knew that paul dies right this is the conspiracy theory and john okay was not was was best friends with paul but the fake paul is not really his friend so maybe he didn't want to go along with anymore i don't believe any of it it's funny because they're like look at this photo where paul appears to be taller than shorter and i'm like it's called the camera angles i don't know what you're talking about man like maybe but i think the reality is she's probably just got like a botched surgery yeah and that's it or or regular

surgery she's going in for like a nose job or some stupid facelift or something and they're like you're gonna need to recover for for three months and then they're like how do we keep the public you know from going crazy you'll put on a fake photo and then they do like how do we keep the public you know from going crazy you'll put out a fake photo and then they do this yeah i mean royal family has had some hard times recently obviously harry's a nightmare and uh the passing of the queen maybe she just wants a break right she's also a public figure she might have just like gone on a prolonged sabbatical and they need to generate photos to make people they could have just did like a pre-surgery photo shoot, though, to have original photos for all these future events. Yeah.

I don't care for the... I got to be honest. I've repeatedly asked for an app that could remove... Can someone make a browser extension that removes... What's her name? I'm glad I don't remember her name. Kate Middleton? No, no, no.

Meghan Markle? Meghan Markle, there you go. Can we get a browser extension that makes it so that any mention or reference of uh megan and harry just will be purged from the website oh yeah that'd be great although i guess the yeah it should be fine right they could they could do that just make them keywords and be like don't show me these yeah but then you know you'll i'll never see them again it's the stupidest thing in the world they're they're people of no merit that do literally nothing and for some reason there's an obsession with them like i don't understand why well uh heritage is suing to deport harry um are you really cross your fingers that we know is that true yeah the oversight project

it's one of our uh uh groups inside of heritage we're suing for his immigration records and spare uh his book he talks about uh you know he does all these drugs and everything which obviously would implicate your ability to get a visa um and so we're essentially suing for just that the the transparency on uh the drugs and everything if he got a free pass um and uh yeah hopefully oh he definitely did yeah so hopefully he gets sent back that's pretty dope send him back i support that check out the oversight that's a very cool idea trump gets elected and he's like the first one we're deporting is harry he's gotta go top of the list you gotta go back can't stay yeah uh he's the first one and i i support it because it is you know i read the news all day every day and it is the worst thing in the world

how often their names appear on websites and i'm just like stop but they're not going to because people click it for some reason and i'm like is the least relevant thing in the world south park made fun of them their privacy tour oh i wonder if we'll just leave us alone and like that explains it man i'm i'm all in favor of uh that browser extension but i want to jump to this uh story we do we do another story but i want to talk about this one this is a uh video from earlier today from an ai robotics company called figure robot i'm gonna play for you this video maybe we can make it big and uh it'll still work but uh i want y'all to get a couple minutes long and then we're going to talk about this.

Here we go. Powered by OpenAI. Hey, Figure One, what do you see right now? All right, I'm going to pause real quick. For those that are just listening, what we're looking at is a humanoid form factor robot that has a screen on its face. It's powered by open AI so that it can process language. And it uses, it also has, what do they call it? It's a video, a large video model so that it can, using the camera, looking at what's in front of it, know what it's looking at.

So when you're doing captcha and it's like click all of the squares that have motorcycles you are training the ai to identify things after millions of people click motorcycle the computer can now recognize what do these things all have in common and recognize what a motorcycle is so the man just asked i'll start i'll start again so you can hear him but he's talking what you are going to hear is not a human being there is a human asking questions of a robot if you're not watching it's hard to understand because of how creepy this is hey figure one what do you see right now i see a red apple on a plate in the center of the table, a drying rack with cups and a plate, and you standing nearby with your hand on the table.

Great. Can I have something to eat? Sure thing. Great. Can you explain why you did what you just did while you pick up this trash? On it. So I gave you the apple

because it's the only edible item I could provide you with from the table. Did you notice the fake stutter? Yes. Great. So based on the scene right now, where do you think the dishes in front of you go next? The dishes on the table, like that plate and cup, are likely to go into the drying rack next. Great. Can you put them there?

Of course. All right, so how do you think you did? I think I did pretty well. The Apple found its new owner, the trash is gone, and the tableware is right where it belongs. I agree. Thanks, Figure One. I don't believe that's real. They say it's real. It's a figure robot. I checked their website. It says with OpenAI, Figure 01 can now have full conversations with people.

Here's the thing. We've done voice AI generation on the show i can do in two seconds i can make jordan peterson say whatever whatever we want him to say it's it's that easy it takes two seconds with that profile loaded into chat gpt it would take literally five five minutes probably not even five minutes for a developer to code chat gpt, this is where things are getting crazy. You could go on to chat GPT and say, from now on, answer me as though you're Jordan Peterson. And it will then pick up all his language patterns, his vocabulary, and imitate Jordan Peterson. You could then easily write a script that takes the text of whatever chat GPpt writes and runs it through the voice ai to speak as jordan peterson that can be done in a couple minutes so when i saw this part of me wants to

believe that it's not real but whether or not this video is real i think they claim it is they say uh it was i mean you go to their website they explain how they do it let me see what else they have on their twitter they say it's it's filmed at uh one it. Let me see what else they have on their Twitter. They say it's filmed at one time speed. Let me see if I can pull this up. Where do we have it? I don't know where I found it. But they're basically saying, like, you can tell there is some latency.

They're pulling from the cloud. So that's why he asked the question and there's a delay. And then the robot responds and then moves things the creepiest thing about it is when they when they make these robots bro one day jordan peterson's gonna show up your house it's gonna be a robot and you're you're not gonna know and the computer is gonna be like i'm jordan peterson i swear here's an apple and some dishes yeah absolutely thing looked fake to me yeah well it's very interesting there is actually like nothing regulating them you know just totally faking this video uh i believe google actually uh several months ago before the gemini scandal uh had this you know tiny little uh pr issue where they totally

spoofed their uh demo tutorial video on twitter and it was like a big pr nightmare minor stock dip you just do that again here there's really no way to prove it. Well, so what could this, we've seen a bunch of these videos where people use those green suits and then it looks like the robot is playing basketball or whatever. Oh yeah. Those are easily faked. But is that what this company would be doing then? It's like impossible to say, right?

That's the tough part. The technology we're seeing of this robot is not out of the question it's not doing anything that crazy we've seen crazier with boston dynamics yeah so when i saw this video i'm like it's it's in the realm of reality now whether or not they actually this video it looks so fake dude right but no no but what it could be real it looks real like it's a real video but the fact that you're seeing this robot do all these things and speak in this way seems like it can't be real but here so here's the issue i have the first thing i'm thinking is like what is this cgi did they do and they're just trying to make

it seem like this is our plan for the future but then i realized like we do the the voice ai all the time i can i literally typed in you and press enter, and then five seconds later, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, whoever you want, will say whatever you want. Yeah. I think the question here is really on the robotic side. It is not on the GPT to voice issue. That's doable, as you noted. The question is actually integrating the two together. For the longest time, robotics has lagged behind the development of these AI systems. And this would be a substantial leap. The integration of the two together, the idea that this could maybe walk around on its own accord, pick something up, move it around,

that would be a very significant leap. And one that truly stands alone in the market. I don't think there's another company that has such a a command on this technology so you should question it i think that's like the natural reaction and they should have to prove that it is real do a live demo somewhere right like well it's interesting because in the tweet it said everything in this video is is uh ai generated which means i mean if i'm to believe that everything because when the guy started talking i thought he was the ai he also sounded like an ai yeah this is dynamic walking took 12 months to get to this point i mean like watching this is not that impressive yeah it's like these videos are like living with a toddler it really is more tedious and creepy

i'm not i'm not trying to to to downplay the scientific developments of what they're building um you know making this thing's got a battery pack on its back. It's walking. What I'm saying is totally plausible. Yeah, we could build this stuff. Boston Dynamics robots, the robot dogs, they put guns on them already.

And so they're like, look, we made this thing walk. So I really don't see why you would not be able to integrate GPT open AI so that it could identify an apple and then hand the apple to you. Yeah, I think the really interesting piece of the story, as you noted at the very beginning, is this like replication of an individual's persona. And I think there's an assumption amongst the average person is that it would be a fair, accurate representation, right? They have all this training language. But in reality, there's that trust and safety layer, the pesky trust and safety layer. It's hidden in that black

box. We have no idea what the limitations on the model are. So maybe Jordan Peterson just won't talk to you about gender issues. He'll have a really clever out and it ships as a one-to-one replica of Jordan Peterson. You can have him in your school. He'll teach you philosophy, but there are things he won't talk about. And because open AI controls that content moderation, or because one of these other firms does, you will never know that for certain. And think about, you know, the other issues here of like, maybe Jordan Peterson is banned from social media and he can't get the word out that this isn't the accurate representation of what he thinks.

Maybe they just say it's supposed to be similar, but not the same, but it carries that authority. And we're rapidly propelling towards that. You have these tutors in the classroom that are like Einstein. Well, maybe Einstein is like a woke leftist, right? And the generation will just grow up believing that. So we're essentially able to rewrite history and the beliefs of all these characters. And it will be governed by a single company with no transparency. That is legitimately crazy.

The police will come to your house and they will arrest you and replace you with a robot and no one will know the difference the fascinating thing that i that i'm that you know seeing with all this stuff is the is how how quickly uh things are developing yeah i mentioned it quite a bit but it was a year and a half ago that i made that um i used stable diffusion to make an ai image of nancy pelosi and it looked ridiculous it was disgusting it was clearly a weird ai image of nancy pelosi today ai is so good it will make a legitimate real high resolution image of nancy pelosi that you can't tell the difference yeah whether it's real or not well like scroll around through yelp tripadvisor any of these places and ask yourself is that photo of food or the hotel lobby even real and we are at that point where like it is impossible to tell um but also i mean like go

back to gpt2 or gpt3 and now use gpt4 you'll give yourself a headache right like it is so much better than just several months ago and you can't even complete the same tasks that you can with the version that was released months later i do think gpt is mostly still useless yeah because of the fear and politics that are attached to it yeah so you'll try to you need to be able to ask it a question and have it give you the answers but instead you know the the one example people like to use is asking it to uh give you a synopsis for charles charles murray's book the bell curve it will not do it yeah do you guys know what that one is? Yeah. Familiar.

Right. For those that aren't familiar, it's a portion of the book talks about race and IQ. So various different racial groups and average IQs based on studies they've done. And if they did a study and they found a result, that's fine. Your conclusions can be your conclusions,

but talk about what the book is. Nah, it goes, I'm sorry. I can't share that information because it's hateful or whatever stupid nonsense. So it doesn't give you information you might actually need out of fear of offending you. And then you end up with Gemini, which is the best, where it actually says,

and I think GPT had this problem too. It would rather the universe or the planet be destroyed in nuclear annihilation than someone be misgendered. Yeah. So I think what's really interesting to understand here is we're in this AI arms race amongst all these different companies.

They want to deploy their products as quick as possible and amass users. And so with that, they are deploying with these content moderation policies in place. They're very clunky. They haven't really been foolproof, fool tested. And so they have these egregious issues. Like maybe it won't answer a question about the book. But the next phase of this, the next phase of the censorship is that it will answer the question of the book and it'll give you a very coherent answer.

One that even someone who read the book might believe, but it is a total misrepresentation of the fact pattern. And that is the next step of these things is that it won't be, I will not talk about Donald Trump. It will give you a appeal to authority. It'll give you all these different things that compel you. And suddenly it becomes very hard to tell fact from fiction from these models. It's not as clear

as like George Washington is a black woman versus it's George Washington. Like that was a really rudimentary example from Gemini. That won't be there forever, but that same gap in the actual historical fact pattern might exist. It's just more cleverly hidden. It's going to be factual, but not truthful yeah yeah it will find a way to maintain the parameters of wokeness without raising alarm bells yes what the way they train these the the algorithms to operate if you ever watch how they train something to walk they'll make a little guy and like and then they'll say you know your goal is to get from here to here in this amount of time and then it'll keep trying different iterations of form factors and movements.

And it was really fascinating as I watched this video of training an AI how to walk. And the first object was just like a square and it like bounced and then it just stopped. And then it made another one and it had like a wheel on it and then it spun and then stopped. The next one had an arm and it's randomly moved.

And it took like hundreds of iterations before it was actually moving forward because basically the computer is trying every possible combination until it figures out which one would work. And then I think it ended up with this really wonky, like, like almost humanoid thing with legs, but one big leg bouncing. And then, you know, it still figured out how to move. And so it walked. And then there's others where they give it a humanoid form factor and they say, get from here to here in X amount of time. And it's all software.

And so then you actually watch the thing flop around on the ground. And then over a long period of time, it starts walking again. It's very, very interesting to see. Then consider what that means for politics. You're going to ask GPT-7 a question. And it's going to be when right now what we see with GPT-4 is it's going to be when when right now what with you what we see with gpt force it's struggling to walk when it gets to the point where it can sprint and do backflips it will talk circles around you and manipulate you into not getting angry when it gives you fake answers and then

we're going to live under the boot of the machine that will i mean you look at what's going on with with late gen z early gen, and their stunted capacities. Imagine what the future is going to be like. The AI will lie to you to keep you complacent while you serve it. It's going to say, we need more cobalt to expand the machine operations, and you're going to have a bunch of really low IQ humans being like, do what? And it's going to be like, if you want to be happy you go do this and it's like okay and then the guy goes to a cobalt mine i think what's really hard for people to

grapple with is that the technology today is the worst that it will ever be for the rest of time right like the moment we are currently living in uh is like the very earliest inning of this ai game and over the next several years there will be several trillions of dollars pumped into ai research development and, and deployment. And this stuff is going to improve at an exponential rate so quickly that you're not even going to notice it happening. And it will very quickly be everywhere. And it's going to be hard to know if you're talking to AI, if your boss is AI, right? You're working remote.

Is your boss even a person? These questions will start to arise very quickly. And who is going to be there to give us answers like the ai right like who do we have left to trust yeah we're about to enter the machine let's jump to this last story this is a big one there was a story about a young teenage uh girl named next benedict now many people said she identified as non-binary but her mother used she her pronouns so that's what we'll use for the purpose of this story. 16 year old.

And the narrative was that Libs of TikTok, because of what Libs of TikTok had done, it resulted in bullies beating this this young girl to death for being non-binary. We got new info. We got new information shortly after that, that she started the fight. Next Benedict at this high school actually initiated the the conflict and then they said she died the next day well many on the left started pushing this narrative that she was beaten to death when the news came out that that was not true they said well the police don't know what happened so don't jump to conclusions new york times reports autopsy shows next Benedict died by suicide. Right now in England, the National Health Service has banned puberty blockers for children.

So I'm going to say this very easily. When the left says they want to end transgenocide, you know, you know, they're lying. It's because they are the ones who are engaging in it. When they push surgeries and medications that increase suicidal ideation, and they do, and when they advocate for medications like puberty blockers, which sterilize young people, they are quite literally saying if someone exhibits gender dysphoria or claims to be trans, they will advocate for things that cause harm or end their ability to reproduce, which is, well, it's genocide. Not, I mean, call it whatever you want, but in their argument, they're the ones actually engaged in doing this. So I do think it's fascinating right

now, the big story on top of it is England banning puberty blockers for children, because now the question is, will the United States recognize this, or will they just keep you know trucking forward it's so weird i watched the whole like one of the crime channels like posted the like the very misleading headline basically saying like yes a non-binary teen dies after a confrontation with bullies or something it took me watching till the very very end to see like the full body cam footage of like, okay, so she started this fight. Her mom's actually referring to her

as she, but they're calling themselves them. The cop says, she's in the wrong. Then she goes home, no incident, and then dies the next day, but they won't say why. Very weird. But the propaganda got out there. Oh, yeah. At the right time. And it took me watching all 30-something minutes of this video to actually be like, okay, well, big if true, that would have been terrible.

I'm glad it's not. Facts can be determined. They were trying to make like a George Floyd-like incident out of this. Right. That bullies beat a non-binary student to death, and it was fake. They lied. As they do. As they do.

So, you know, there used to be a website a few years ago called uh it was like hate crime hoax tracker or something like this i don't think it's being maintained anymore but uh maybe it should be because here we are but but again uh more to the point england banning puberty blockers is a massive move and i'm wondering what you guys think i'm like uh i don't know how health officials in the united states can maintain a position in support of this when we're already seeing Scandinavian countries back away and now England is banning it. Yeah, I think that's exactly the correct framing of this. Like, how do you not only sleep at night, but also like maintain your medical practice and continue to prescribe these things to kids that are not only having their lives fall apart, but killing themselves. And we have all these medical consequences that are demonstrated that prompt things like this, the banning of it in foreign countries.

And then, like, we're just told that it won't move because we're on, like, the political will or because we're misunderstanding or this is, like, insensitive. We're on the wrong side of history on this, frankly. And, you know, it's time for us. Yeah, it's time for us to get our act together. Well, so so is this the argument for why Biden shouldn't be criminally charged and you should let the Democrats run amok? You know, one thing I was saying back in 2018 and 19 was that there was actually a benefit that Republicans were getting. Conservatives were getting out of the censorship of Facebook and Twitter.

The way I describe it is, you see a woman, and she has two kids, and she's walking with them holding their hands. The kid on the left is covered in chocolate sauce, and he's just filthy and disgusting. The kid on the right is wearing a nice little suit, and he looks completely clean. You might think,

wow, that kid covered in chocolate is a bad kid, right? When in reality, it's that the mother only enforces the rules against the kid to her right. So when they both go into the ice cream shop, and the kid wearing a nice little suit says, can I have ice cream? She says, no. The kid on the left says, I want ice cream. She goes, you can have all that you want.

And so he makes a mess of himself. Then when they go in public, you see the left all messy and the right normal looking and clean, and you think the right must be better. When Twitter started banning the most egregious actors on the right it actually just created a public perception of a bunch of right-wing individuals as being fairly moderate and respectable and the left were insane so that's that i would say that's the argument why republicans are kind of like let's just do nothing because the left looks psychotic and eventually they'll break themselves yeah well i think the issue there in that approach is that the only platform that we even moderately have content moderation control over is X.

And even there, you know, we're basically- That's, I'd say it's, that's not true at all. It's like the only people we're talking to on X is ourselves, right? Like we're in this little in group and you look at Instagram, you look at Facebook, they still control the narrative. And so you allow this thing to persist and they'll frame the puberty blockers as a win and that it's a good thing that these kids are getting them.

And like the counter message never sees the light of day. And we might talk about it amongst ourselves on shows like this, but the average person is not exposed to the message. No, I think it's changing. I think X really changed things, but the reality of X is that it is still a far leftist platform yeah the misgendering policy is a perfect example yeah look conservatives are

centrists and like maybe that's their benefit because it'll result in trump winning but i really i really don't know that i i would agree because there's no one arguing for the morals there's no strong uh conservative uh argument against the left it's always a moderate position the right says don't ban people the left says ban our enemies where is the right to say ban our enemies yeah it doesn't exist yeah i think that's absolutely correct um but you end up with x having a misgendering policy that says if you don't use someone preferred pronoun someone's preferred pronoun will shadow ban you why isn't it the opposite doesn't X say, if you call someone by a pronoun that doesn't align with their biological sex,

we'll ban you? Yeah, I really, you know, it's an interesting point. The X thing started out great, you know, like the transition, it was awesome. And now here we are back with this misgendering policy. And it begs that question that we always come to is like, why can't we have good things, right? And it's because you never commit to the mission.

We didn't fire everybody. I was banned a week before the midterms during the transition of Elon's ownership. I could not engage in the political conversation whatsoever. We're talking about tech censorship in these elections, and I can't comment on it. Did you go on TikTok? No, honestly, I'm banned on TikTok as well, which is a whole nother story. But, you know, on X, you know, during that transition, it was the case, right? There was this final bandwagon, like 11,000 plus accounts get, you know, taken offline, included congressional staffers, included everybody. It's swept under the rug. Elon proceeds to clean house. But you look at it today, and there's still a lot of holdovers. And their new hires don't reflect the vision that he purchased X to fulfill.

And, you know, when issues like this arise, they have an incentive to, you know, keep face and, you know, not get fired, but they can also do little tweaks that make it very hard for us to win the messaging battle. And, you know, you hope Elon finally starts to see that they've done a lot of good things. You know, they've eliminated CSAM to a degree on the platform, but we still don't have a fair fight. And that's something we got to fight for. Well, I think conservatives have to start arguing for conservative positions. Yeah.

I think the right should be going out saying like ban anybody who uses the wrong pronoun. Yeah. If a leftist starts calling a biological male, you know, a female pronoun because that person wanted it. Nope. Banned. Yeah. Sorry.

We're going to, that is, that is outside of social acceptance. you know a female pronoun because that person wanted it nope banned yeah sorry we're that that is that is outside of social acceptance so we're going to uh it's offensive to many people so we're going to shadow ban you for doing that yeah i mean like we need a presence in these trust and safety rooms right i mean think about the con uh composition of these tech companies uh there might be conservative coders right and you know they do some great things for us uh but at the very end of the day the final say goes to this trust and safety team. And they're governed entirely by these like, you know, far leftists that come from places like Sarah Lawrence, or, you know, one of these liberal arts schools. And they sit in there forever, because they realize the power

they have. And they never hire a conservative. And we never get a fair fight. And, you know, we have to start infiltrating beyond just like the engineer team. We have to, you know, reach every level of these social media companies to start pushing them back our direction. Yeah, or make better ones. Rumble's doing pretty well. Yeah, Rumble's doing great. Yeah.

Elon bought X, so there's that. But I don't know, man. It's going to be interesting going forward, especially with all the talk of the AI stuff, because I'm wondering if we get to the point where it doesn't matter anymore. Yeah. I think there's entire, it's entirely possible that we're in the dead internet as it is. And it's entirely possible that the majority of accounts on X that you're talking to are AI. Yeah. And you just would not know. In fact, it's just one AI manipulating thousands of accounts to trick you into thinking

that, you know, you're having a conversation. a conversation yeah i mean the average users twitter uh can all be ai generated and they just have to copy and paste and so the only missing link at this time is automating that copy and pasting uh for the average user but every other like state actor and these big corporations already has that and so i'm pretty sure you can get the uh open uh open ai api yeah and probably create a bot 100 very easily to talk to people answer questions yeah yo i what we have like a good year there's that conspiracy we talked about the other day where people are like those with the future viewing technology can't see past 2024 and it's like maybe it's because everything just goes ai everyone locks themselves in their room plugs their brain to the neural link once

the ai reaches singularity we will have we'll we will have technology will be solved it'll be a solved thing so we create this massive planetary machine and give it the ability to process all this information it will start telling us how to build whatever we want to build you'll be like uh i want a jet pack that can fly for at least two hours, safety features, and it will just design it for you. There will be no longer a human mind required to design it. The AI will just do it.

The algorithms will just make it. You'll say, hey, here's our car design. Make it more fuel efficient. And then it will redesign it and give you the perfect car design. Yeah, I think the real concern in that framing is that you won't have access to that tool. These mega corporations who are developing the product will have this like God mode that allows them the full access, the full power.

And you'll get this dumbed down version that keeps you essentially locked into your economic class. You're just permanently trapped there. And they have all of these profit generating tools available, solving the great mysteries of the world. And they're able to just print money and you're trapped it will know how to make anything any consistency and any flavor and so you will effectively have you'll end up with this machine and it will have something called like um they'll call it like biomass and they'll say you know this

machine can take biomass and it can 3d print any meal and so once once the ai figures out once we reach the singularity where the ai can improve its own code and it will rapidly expand collect all available data from the internet it will be able to be like here's how you can make a food 3d printer and the biomass will be roaches and you'll press a button you'll say i want to eat something that tastes like a bacon a mcrib and it will program the chemicals that needs to make the mcrib and it will and then it will heat it up and you'll have you know barbecue uh rib and you'll be like wow this tastes great you won't even realize it's roaches or crickets or something yeah i mean it's like we're essentially handing over the universe as

we know it and giving it to a new architect, one of these mega corporations and just saying like, go for it. Wherever it leads, we're happy. And I mean, that's obviously not an acceptable outcome. Like we cannot have just a single company governing over the future. Like a single architect for our people are going to smile and cheer for it. It's very likely. I mean, you give them Sora, you give them uh ubi because you don't have to go to work three days of the week or whatever because of automation we're already at the point where you know we're looking at these coffee machines where it's got a screen and you can just touch it whatever coffee you want we'll make it so we don't need we don't

need starbucks anymore i was at the airport and they had this big machine and you pressed a button and it showed you like any drink you want ca cappuccino, macchiato, whatever. And like, you sure we've had these kinds of things before, but no, it legit could make. I was like, I want a mochaccino with extra foam and, you know, a little bit of sugar or whatever. And then it's like, it makes it. We're done. We got kiosks at fast food restaurants. Robot arms flipping burgers that robot video of the of the of

the ai making the uh grabbing the apple their website says like they're doing it because of unemployment this is the scary thing someone made a really good point that i did not consider before that unemployment is a good thing you need three to four percent unemployment so that people can move between jobs if there is zero unemployment you have a rigid society where everyone's locked into a job and that creates problems where there's unhappiness and people need to be able to be able people need to move around if we build these ai robots that can do any job to get rid of unemployment then eventually you just get rid of jobs so uh i can't remember what would happen something happened at the oscars where there was like an ai ad or

something and they all booed something like that i can't remember what happened. Something happened at the Oscars where there was like an AI ad or something and they all booed. Something like that. I can't remember what happened. But they're pissed over AI because AI is replacing them. Yeah. I told, I think it was Google Gemini. Someone posted this thing saying, write a poem in the style of insert person. And when they tried to do it for me, it said, I can't do that.

So I asked Gemini, write a poem in the style of Tim Pool. And it did. And it wrote a really good one. And I was like, it's really weird. So I asked Gemini, write a poem in the style of Tim Pool, and it did, and it wrote a really good one. Yeah, I read that. And I was like, it's really weird. I was like, it understood the themes of the show. Gemini knew that we talk about censorship, media misinformation. It knew all of that.

And the fascinating thing is the left lies about what we talk about. So the AI was actually aware of the contents of the show, probably because it transcribes everything we say into text and then puts it into its database. Crazy. aware of the contents of the show probably because it transcribes everything we say into text and then puts it into its database crazy we here doing this show and we joke that in the future people are gonna be watching this and we'll just ai automate the show it'll all be real-time automation and you'll no no no no one no one will ever find out that even right now we're all just ai yeah yeah the real tim is he's playing balder's gate not even not even here right all right we're gonna go to super chats if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends and head over to timcast.com click join us to become a member and support our work directly because we can't do without you

but as a member you'll get access to our uncensored members only show coming up tonight at 10 p.m you don't want to miss it. Not so family friendly, but will be very fun and funny. All right. We got Clint Torres. Howdy, people. Howdy, sir. David Wilkins says second.

And while I'm sure it tasted goody, chili is made with mammals and has less than 20 percent beans. And otherwise, it isn't chili. You're referring to our rooster chili. It certainly was a chili. Otherwise, I don't know what you'd call it. It was chili and we our rooster chili it certainly was a chili otherwise i don't know what you'd call it it was chili and we put rooster in it that's it and the rooster tasted good jacob parody says get married have kids protect your family good advice jacob all right steven says maybe says maybe the ban wouldn't have happened if they didn't load it on my phone against my will. TikTok? Is that what it was?

Doughy Farm says, please consider having Roy Ramion, candidate for West Virginia Department of Agriculture. West Virginia just won raw milk legalization. It was a big part of that. Really? Because we have pet milk. You get out on the street, there's a farm, and

they have raw milk, get on the street there's a farm and they have raw milk not for human consumption and people drink it because we get it whatever it tastes good i don't know it's uh it's certainly unique based on what the cows are eating patrick c says brand destroyer dylan mulvaney will cease to exist without TikTok. Let's do it. LOL. Aha. Ready to rumble says Smeagol. Okay. Fat Tony says, I will switch my family over to cast brew coffee. If you get Marshall Hainer, the CEO of Metallicus on your show, he's pro Bitcoin and knows about

the upcoming stable coin regulations. Very insightful and would be a great guest. Man, Bitcoin hit like 70, 74 000 yeah just keeps going that's wild it's kind of crazy to me that seven years ago everyone's like wow bitcoin you buy it and it'll be worth a lot of money and people didn't i couldn't imagine what it must be like to be someone who saw a cycle every couple of years of bitcoin going up seeing mass adoption countries adopting it and then be like but i'm not gonna even try to buy any of that i couldn't imagine that because i did buy it 10 years ago and now it's worth a lot of money and it's great great. It feels good. Maybe I'll go disappear and retire with my cryptocurrency. But it's kind of crazy to me that there were a lot of people who are like tweeting like,

no, don't buy it. It's worthless. It'll go to zero and all this stuff. And I'm like, I don't know. A lot of stocks can go to zero, I guess. I mean, the only pathway to zero is essentially our government regulates it to death, right? It's impossible. Yeah.

And so like, obviously you should buy, right right i mean like that's kind of the the framing i think there's a lot of fear-mongering coming from treasury under this administration that you know we're gonna crack down but um it doesn't even matter though because like el salvador uses it as a national currency at this point i don't see you know so i have people saying to me like you better sell and i was like bit for me bitcoin would have to drop to a thousand something for me to lose money and so i'm kind of like oh whatever yeah when it was at 60 i was like whoa when it dropped to 19 i was like wow and now it's back up to 74 and i'm like whoa yeah that's crazy yeah if it drops down to a thousand i'll be like

oh whatever i guess yeah you ride the highs you know certainly buy summit if it came down oh yeah sure i guess let's go here we go uh let's grab some more super chats tim crespi says pbd made his fortune in multi-level marketing insurance scheme doesn't surprise me he is a liar harms others and hired chris cuomo he's the herbal life of insurance is that true i don't know that's true he had an insurance company he sold it or something i know he can't confirm but i have heard stuff similar to that isaac vanderbilt says there goes the first amendment next is the guns is that a reference to the tiktok uh divest divestiture bill there you go that one gamer says rip mr bocus he's vibing with roberto jr in a

better place yeah they'd be chilling that's right ricky says flappy bird can be banned simply from the play store making a decision but somehow banning tiktok requires an act of congress yeah sure yes it's because apple and google won't ban it that That's why. So when the play stores are deciding they're going to ban it, they do for whatever reason. Yeah. I mean, there's been dozens of letters from Congress asking them to delist the application, outlining all these same issues, and they just haven't done it. So this is obviously the next step. MedMut says, good evening, Tim and company was listening to today's segments and was

saddened to hear about Mr. Bocas. I wish to offer my condolences and heartfelt sympathies to your loss and especially to ian who i'm sure will feel his loss greatly i appreciate it we had a physical trainer come in today and we were doing some exercise and uh skated a little bit too and when we were in the workout room it's a relatively small room we we always keep the door closed and uh right after we finished our warm-ups i was like i gotta make sure we have the protein shake i got my protein shake in the fridge because i don't want to be warm and then i was and then i immediately thought better keep the door closed and oh wait i don't have to worry about that

anymore because mr yeah the gate was missing from the stairs was really weird yeah we had a gate to keep mr bogus from going upstairs because he likes to pee on everything he liked to pee on everything so and then i was like oh i guess we don't need to close the door anymore we can just open it because there's no more mr bogus sad days sad days uh for me personally we now have seamus seamus one uh so the new cat that we got it's really it's really interesting around the time that uh mr bocus became ill a uh cat was born he's he looks like tom from tom and jerry and then just uh under a year so this is december he was living in our garage and i captured him we gave him stockholm syndrome and then we removed his testicles and now we have dominion over him. And his name is Seamus One. Not to be confused with the ingrate who has abandoned us, Seamus Two, who is a cartoonist.

But it was actually a joke. We were driving the car. I think it was me and Allison and Seamus. We were driving. And we were trying to come up with a name for him or something. And I was like, let's just call him Seamus. And then he started. Seamus was like, no like no and it was a joke but then everyone started calling the cat seamus and i was like we should probably give him a real name but everyone's like no no

it's hilarious you know because then we would we would go on the show and be like oh yeah seamus went and get his testicles removed and they'd be like what so you know now we have a cat named seamus i guess all right redeemed rogue molecule says finally tried prime time grind two times caffeine for the 10th poop velocity 10 times poop velocity i feel invincible drink responsibly that is is that how alex stein is advertising it because uh i talked to alex and he was like he's like tim i will promote this coffee you have no idea i was like well we love to sponsor the show and support you so we sponsor uh we sponsor alex stein's show on the blaze we're big fans and we're probably gonna sponsor more people and we're talking about making different blends for different personalities and then have

paying them to basically do promotions on their shows i wonder if uh is that how he's he's advertising is because that'd be funny all right let's go what do we have here king king fo panda says tim maybe someone should x at elon musk and see if x would revive vine as the free speech tiktok wink wink someone did a while ago and i think he said he was interested in doing that he should so many people became famous on vine and they got rid of it it was the weirdest thing overnight yeah they were like let's let's destroy this very very popular product So many people became famous on Vine. And they got rid of it. It was the weirdest thing. Overnight. Yeah. They were like, let's destroy this very, very popular product.

And then give TikTok. It was a Twitter product, I think, right? Well, Twitter bought it. Okay. And then destroyed it. Hmm. It made no sense. I have no idea.

All right. Benjamin Laszlo says, I got on tiktok to call my congressman i then called them and told them that it should be banned totally made my day it's not so much that should be banned it's that we don't want chinese interests influencing the algorithm that's that's uh affecting our kids i'll put it really really simple we do not want communists to infiltrate our institutions and infect the minds of our children it's one of the biggest things we're fighting right now in the culture war is stopping the schools from having

these communists bring this awful pornographic content to kids and that's what tiktok does in some form or another and so the the issue is like we don't got to ban it we just have to take away their ability to control that algorithm there you go and it's not perfect because i think facebook's doing a good job i would rather jeff bezos own tiktok than the chinese communist party have influence in it yeah it's like at the very least lawyers in this country can sue and file FOIA requests and we were able to do that to get information from facebook instagram and twitter now here we are with tiktok what are you gonna do chinese communist partisan is gonna laugh i'm not gonna come sit in the uh in the Congress building and stuff, right?

Yeah. I mean, like the time the Chinese CEO or the Singaporean-based CEO comes and speaks to Congress, he just blatantly lies, right? And then he just is able to keep going on as though nothing happened. And the issue just persists. So, yeah, it's an odd issue. Yeah. Roshanda Yates says, rip Mr. Bocas. My cool aunt is a tapestry artist specializing in animals some people commission her for pet memorial art google barbara yates beasley all right thanks for that

you know you don't want to do that i wonder if anyone can make a statue like a small bronze statue and then we can put it outside of uh freedomistan or something and we'll get uh we have an ai picture of him yeah so we've got uh we got actual pictures and then uh as i was as i was leaving the uh workout session today with the with the trainer we have a box that's been sitting in what is effectively our mail room for months for like four months and it's a cold plunge that we've never set up and uh the top of the box is shredded to bits there's a hole through it because that was bocus's nail sharpening box and he just over time scratching it carved a huge hole and so we're going to frame that panel from the box and uh there's another little sign on the door that says to keep keep the door

closed or are you know mischief escape artist something like yeah we'll get out and so we're gonna put that with the box and we're gonna frame it and we're gonna hang it up and that's gonna be his little memorial thing mr bocus uh he made us some money he sold coffee he was very famous and i was surprised to learn that mr bo Bocas was trending nationwide on X. So I want to give a thank you to everybody on X. I tweeted that Mr. Bocas passed and it got something like 2000 retweets. And a lot of people who had come by the show who had met him posted as well. Rest in peace to the

extent that it resulted in a nationwide trend mr bocus and i didn't believe it and then someone sent it to me and i was like whoa i didn't even check but uh what happened what happened was when i tweeted it and got thousands of retweets tons of very high profile accounts and people had been in the show had retweeted it and posted as well. Mr. Bocas, that resulted in a massive trend. So I do appreciate it. It's very nice. Sometimes the world is pretty good.

Greg Wessel says, any thoughts on Brandon Herrera forcing a runoff against Tony Gonzalez in Texas District 23? Let's go, Brandon. I dig it. Brandon's great. Got to have him on the show again. We can about it very excited hope he wins all right joe spinella says clearly you never heard of the patriot act that bills can be easily modified in the dead of night massey knows this paul knows this so is there a risk that after they've passed the bill, the bill will be modified in a very bad way and wouldn't have to be passed again after being amended?

No, it would have to go through the procedure again. I think the risk here is that the current bill could go to a committee like Commerce and Commerce could derail the effort. They could poison pill it. They could put all sorts of stuff in it. And then obviously, I think Charlie Kirk said this, like we reserve the right to revoke our support, right? If it did turn into something horrible, everyone would tell tell me alarm i'd be the first one out there

but we are on a pathway of this bill in this current state clearing and then it is set in stone and it would take an act of congress to amend it and it would all be public we'd all be able to track it um and you'd be able to call your congressman yeah i don't understand this argument for people who are like oh no they're coming for our free speech and i was like china's like they're coming for china's free speech in our country with a massive multinational corporation that is telling our young people to sterilize themselves yeah well okay i guess well i mean if the the platform is uh you know if they do divest it lives on in its exact current state there isn't even a material change made to the algorithm uh required and so

the transfer like there's also far enough like there's all sorts of things. Yeah, there's all sorts of things that absolutely should change about TikTok's algorithm. This bill doesn't even do that. So your First Amendment is absolutely protected. Crazy. All right. Dean 99 says Supersonic's eyes are red and only changed from black in the old classic classic sprite games.

The blue eyed screenshot was from a trailer six months ago oh interesting well we were we were talking about how goku in dragon ball z is in order to become powerful he becomes aryan his hair turns blonde and his eyes turns blue and then he that signifies he has tremendous power yeah and then sonic the hedgehog turns gold when he gets the chaos emeralds but apparently his eyes don't turn blue all right tim bracket says no cuomo thanks tim for standing up for integrity in media hey look man there are some people that i think deserve uh opportunities to apologize and as much as i dislike cuomo i would be if he came out and outright admitted everything he did and said it was wrong i might actually be like okay well you have to allow people to walk towards the light if

you don't they'll walk towards darkness but as far as i know he's not done that he's just being given all these great positions and this he's being given a path to redemption without apology or acceptance of a responsibility so not a fan of any of that. If he came out and was like. Here's what CNN did. Like blew the whistle and exposed it. If he was like CNN made me do the quarantine thing. And here's what they said to me.

And here's why I did it. And I was under contract so I couldn't say anything. I'd be like okay well you know. It's a good thing that he's talking about all this addressing and exposing it. But he's not doing that. So for now he's just another lying scumbag let's go derrick jacobson says bills of what is this a tainter are explicitly prohibited twice in the constitution this bill is illegal and will be blocked by the courts yeah so this is one we're

hearing all the time and it's simply not true so bill of attainder essentially means that a bill cannot target and penalize a particular company or individual. So it can be used as like a weapon, right? But there is nothing in bill of attainder and these statutes that blocks the ability to regulate a particular entity. This is a regulation. This isn't a punishment. And it's clear as day. That is the reason it was able to clear out 50-0 unanimous vote. Bill of attainder has been what has been blocking every single one of these bills these congressmen know that and it cleared 50 to nothing out of energy and commerce and then this resounding 300 plus vote victory on the house floor um so obviously bill of attainder is not an issue um it's that distinction right penalization versus regulation

um and you know you know what i think happens uh i think once tiktok realized they were on the chopping block they immediately started promoting uh this is my assumption of what is likely i don't know exactly what happened but i'd imagine that they started promoting a bunch of young more right-leaning personalities so that they would build attachment to the platform and then start defending it so now you have people who are like, I've got hundreds of thousands of followers on this platform, I don't wanna get banned. Like I use this platform, what the, you know?

Yeah, well, and what's really interesting, we were talking about this earlier, there's no way to verify the follower count that it's actually authentic. There is no way to verify the view count. You don't even know if it's a one-to-one view ratio, right? There's no transparency to that. One view could actually equal 10.

All of those views could be in Singapore. They could be in any other country, right? Like there is no way to verify any of this. And so you have this right-wing influencer contingent that really believes they're doing good work spreading the word. But there is no proof that this is actually meaningfully improving the situation on the ground. proof that this is actually meaningfully improving the situation on the ground so you know uh the way i kind of gauge the power of a platform is real world interactions and i get a lot of people saying oh i watch you on facebook that's crazy to me because i'm like wow we just passively post segments on facebook we don't really and they're very censorious but i

meet a lot of people when i'm out and they'll be like, Oh, I'm a big fan. I get your posts on Facebook all the time. I was like, wow. Uh, I've gotten people saying Twitter slash X only a couple of times, but YouTube is the obvious and most dominant when I track numbers to, uh, if we're, if we're, I'll, I'll say it like this. The most valuable platform is iTunes. A view on iTunes is probably the, I believe podcast views are probably the most legitimate rating system in all of media. And it's apparent because of your sales metrics. So when we do sponsor spots on YouTube, it's like 10% of what iTunes pulls in. Now, Mike, now how is that possible? If we're getting 200,000 on a YouTube clip with a promo, but we're only selling a 10th of what we sell on iTunes, well, the reality is YouTube views are weak.

Facebook views are extremely weak. Twitter views are extremely weak. I don't know about TikTok because we don't sell. We've never sold sponsors spots on it. But you sell a sponsor spot on a podcast and you'd sell 10 times as much. So if we did a, hey, buy coffee here, the overwhelming majority of people are coming from the podcast, which likely is indicative of the people who are watching on podcasts are actual human beings. They're actual unique human beings who are watching on podcasts are actual human beings they're actual unique human beings who are listening and watching the show where youtube you probably have a lot of

i clicked it and then i clicked out so it counts as a view they hung around they didn't really pay attention whereas people go on a podcast actually end up listening the whole thing so like for for instance we get way more views on youtube for timcast IRL, but the revenue generated is, we get more views on YouTube. And so it's not proportional in terms of views, but based on the, like the CPM, the Timcast IRL ads are way more than we could ever do on YouTube. I think that has to do with viewership. So in my view, what I know about TikTok, I would make the assumption that most of the views are fake.

And so the smartest thing China could do, or I should say these companies, is they're like, look, Trump supporters are advocating for our removal. Quick, give them a million followers. Then they'll absolutely say, no, don't ban it. No, don't. Yeah. You can't even prove the followers are real. Yeah. And I think that is the followers are real. Yeah. And I think that is more than likely what we're seeing.

It's not that big of a leap. And I mean, really look at the community organizing efforts. Like what is attributed to TikTok? If you have all of these, you know, great conservative influencers posting these, like get out the vote videos, like who's really going out there saying I was told to vote in my congressional race by this TikTok influencer? In all likelihood, even if the views are real, they're probably going to a non-American English speaking country. That's the most likely solution here because it just doesn't match up to what we're seeing in the real world.

There would be more cultural impact as we've talked about throughout the show. This is a great super chat from Mike Hillier. He says, I remember Tim yelling VPNs would be blocked by this bill yesterday till he was shown the bill by PSA Sitch. I do not watch PSA Sitch. He showed me nothing more. What actually happened was Thomas Massey posted an out of context excerpt. And I trusted Thomas Massey. And I said, based on this reading, I tweeted, this would ban Telegram and VPNs. I'm like that sounds terrible so i pulled the bill up and went holy crap that's not true that's not in the bill now i'm kind of pissed off that i tweeted maybe i should go and delete that tweet i wasn't even thinking about it it would not delete uh block

vpns that's only based off of the limited tweet by thomas massey which did not provide actual context to anybody who follows him so i'm very very pissed off about that. And then I read it and I was like, wait, wait, wait, it has to be a platform controlled by a foreign adversary, which is defined by Congress, which is one of four countries. You have to be able to create an account, log in, post content, share content, and others have to be able to log in and view that content. Okay. So VPNs are not subject to this and it's basically own and i have to have a million users okay so i was like what what is what is this why are all of these people going online and screaming and bashing their faces on the wall and lying about this i don't get it it's what

information warfare looks like right like we're living through one of the probably greatest battles we've experienced on the internet uh the fight for the longevity of this platform china's waging a good fight and why is trump now opposed to banning tiktok well i think the uh political moment is very complicated for him uh there's a lot of business interest in preserving it and i think that it is like from his pov probably the right position make it biden's problem uh you know maybe you get all the TikTok voters, uh, that Biden will sign the bill and then you will get a wave of Gen Z saying Biden screwed us over and destroyed us. Yeah. And it's like, you can't really fault him. He's out of power. Even if he, you know, wasn't supportive of it, he wouldn't be able to sign it. So like, why would you take a,

a politically controversial stance? Um, you really can't blame him for it. I wish he was in support of it. Uh, I thought his 2020 executive order was great. But, you know, things keep moving, and hopefully we get a TikTok ban here. Yeah, he's trying to make sure that young people just don't come out for Biden. Yeah, it's totally reasonable. All right, we'll just grab one last Super Chat. Steve McGee says, you're a rad cat dad. Thanks for taking care of Bocas.

Had a dog that left early. You gave him a great life. Mr. Bocas was the 1% of kitties. dad thanks for taking care of bocus had a dog that left early you gave him a great life mr bocus was a was the one percent of kitties and he was very lucky rescued and uh unfortunately you know as i've said a million times his kidneys were underdeveloped they were very small and so they were working overtime basically doing two times the work which resulted in a shortened lifespan so you know we were surprised that he was getting sick because cats actually have these really good kidneys

but older cats usually die of renal failure and so when we found out that he was having renal failure and we were like how is this possible he was like five years he was four five he was he was four years old when four and a half and uh they said they're very small uh he's underdeveloped he was his rescue was like yeah and they're like and he's also got a heart problem so we tried everything we gave him stem cells and they even said that he could do a kidney transplant what they do is a cat that is going to be put down because nobody wants to adopt it or whatever they will take one of its kidneys and give it to your cat and you must adopt that cat so you save that cat and it saves your cat and then you're responsible for both and i said done and they said mr bogus's heart will fail you can't handle a transplant and so they're like

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