Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #986 VIGILANTES EVICT Squatters, Democrat Crimewave Sparks NYC Vigilantism w/Clint Russell

Episode Date: March 21, 2024

Tim, Ian, Libby, & Serge join Clint Russell to discuss vigilantes evicting squatters in a NY home after cops arrested the home owner, Ana Kasparian slamming the left for their insane soft on crime pol...icies, a viral tiktok telling people to invade US homes due to squatter's rights laws, and a Democrat saying that Trump will soon meet his demise. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So a big story that's been going viral is this woman in New York who had squatters come to her house. When the police showed up, not only did they actively try to defend the squatters, even though the squatters had no evidence they lived there, they ended up arresting the homeowner. We got breaking news today that vigilantes show up to just talk to these guys, just talk to them. And sure enough, as soon as they did, these guys ran, screaming. I'm being hyperbolic. They said,'re leaving we're out because i can only imagine what these guys must have said to them or what the implication was and this is it the big news today daniel penny in new york has pled uh pleaded not guilty to manslaughter and abc news describes him as the man who choked a homeless man to death instead of the good samaritan who saved people's lives on a train in new york city we had we had
Starting point is 00:00:52 the story what last week about a guy getting shot and killed on the train we have another story a guy got slashed in the face when we went to new york to check out the billboards we put up in times square that morning someone walked up to some random woman and just macheted her in the back and now this guy penny is facing prison because this is what you get in anarcho-tyranny but what you also get is the rise rise of vigilantes so we actually have several stories emerging about vigilante groups popping up but we got a lot more of course there is big political news tony bobulinski testifying hunter biden not showing up and bobulinski saying he personally witnessed joe biden committing crimes aoc loses it but you know we'll get into the heavy politics we'll get into the heavy politics the other big story we have is a viral video we mentioned the other day
Starting point is 00:01:37 where you've got this guy i believe he's a venezueluelan individual explaining to criminal aliens how to squat and take over homes. You've got a judge ruling that illegal immigrant criminal aliens are allowed to bear arms. And now you've got the Libertarian Party of Louisiana putting out a tweet saying, undocumented or otherwise, you should have guns. So I can only, I don't know. I can only guess at what's going to come we're going to jump into all those stories before we do my friends head over to castbrew.com and buy coffee appalachian knights whole bean has already sold out we do have ground still available because
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Starting point is 00:03:23 So smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more, Clint Russell. Tim, welcome. Thank you. Ian is back from Miami. Clint Russell, host of Liberty Lockdown, co-host of Tower Gang, which you should not watch, running for vice president of the United States of America
Starting point is 00:03:40 under the Libertarian Party. I disavow LP Louisiana. I'm going to start with that. What else? I also host the Best Political Show with Luke Rudowsky and Steph, and you can find us on Rumble at We Are Change. My list of duties is too long at this point. I think the important thing people need to realize is that in the Libertarian Party, you actually run for vice president. Yes. It is very unique in that the delegates will actually select both the presidential and the vice presidential candidate.
Starting point is 00:04:07 So the presidential candidate does not get to select the VP. So we can have a very contentious composite ticket, if you will. Theoretically, it could be RFK Jr. and myself, but we'll see if that happens. That would be very, very funny. Yes, that would be. Right on. We would be at each other's throats 24-7, but it'd be interesting. We also got Libby hanging out.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I'm hanging out. Hey guys, glad to be here. I'm Libby Emmons with the Postmillennial. And I'm back from Florida. What's happening, everybody? Ian Crossland, if you don't know me, you do now. I was hanging with Luke Rutkowski and I had the amazing, fortunate blessing to meet Toby Turner, who I've loved for like over a decade.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Tobuscus! You may have seen his work on YouTube. We collabed all week. We were writing music, making skits. He is a hilarious guy and uploaded a parody video that he and I did on his YouTube channel on Tobuscus. So after the show, you're going to want to check that out and have a great night.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Let's get rolling. Oh, and Tim, by the way, thanks for using your perception to identify these traps, these crazy things like the slashing and the hurting and the destruction, because it's like we're navigating this world and you're very aware of these problems the problem is that the problems are moving so it's like you can say the traps there but like we've still got to learn how to we can't sit still it's basically what i'm saying we have to learn how to how to how to maneuver this reality with all this crazy stuff going on well that's i guess
Starting point is 00:05:23 that's what we're doing tonight yeah Yeah, we got search present buttons. Yo, what's up, Ian? I'm wired. Yeah, it seems like it. What's up, everybody? Good to see you, Clint, as well. Hell yeah, Suge. Let's get started.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Here we go. This is the big story. I mean, look, we got a lot of news today, but I think this is the most alarming as per how our society functions. From the Daily Mail, vigilantes show up to evict squatters at Queens home where owner was arrested as neighbors reveal three people have been living there for free and carrying out work inside. And the update from the Post Millennial.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Two squatters vacate Queens home after national backlash. One says he's staying. I'll tell you what I think happens. So we get this breaking news that vigilantes show up to this house. I'll give you what i think happens so we get this breaking news that vigilantes show up to this house i'll give you a quick context for those that missed this story woman in new york her parents die she inherits their home and she says i'm gonna sell it when she shows up to actually check on it some people have moved in change the locks when she calls the police the police say to these squatters can you prove you live here
Starting point is 00:06:27 and when they can't the police remove the men the woman then goes to change the locks but the police say if you change the locks we will arrest you don't do it even though it's her home and those guys have no proof they live there she changes the locks it's her house the cops then come up the before that this this guy breaks back in the house. The cops then show back up and arrest the homeowner for unlawful eviction. The squatters stay and say, take me to court. Next thing that happens is exactly what we warned was going to happen. Some guys show up.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And they said to the press, look, we're going to talk to him. We're going to talk to him. I wonder what they talked about. Because soon after, these guys guys split not all of them one guy's on camera being like i don't know who i paid rent to but i paid rent so i live here and he just seems confused and then that's the guy who wants his deposit back right they were like yes so you paid the squatters he's like i guess i don't know and he's like some old guy with like missing teeth i'll tell you what i think happened when what's gonna start happening now more than ever,
Starting point is 00:07:25 especially with what we're seeing with the Daniel Penny case and Daniel Perry in Texas. And now we've got a bunch of other stories I can pull up from the past couple of weeks of vigilante action in New York City. This is it. It is the rise of vigilantism because of the crime spike and because of bail reform. I mean, I didn't even mention this in the opening of the show,
Starting point is 00:07:43 but Anna Kasparian says, if being on the left means supporting bail reform, which lets murderers out of jail, then she's not on the left anymore. And Cenk's like, no, no, no, it's not true. And she's like, well, I don't know, because they let out murderers in New York. They find these people,
Starting point is 00:07:57 they find body parts scattered all over the place. They find these people living in a house with blood, guts, and flesh everywhere. And they say, we're not going to keep him in jail. we're going to let him go and so she she's losing it but i'll tell you what i think happens here in this story we'll get to that one you know you know what would happen if these squatters stayed in the building when two guys jump and knock on your door and say we're going to tell you one time you need to leave that's all they're going to say i'm not going to say anything else and what happens next these squatters will wake up in the middle of
Starting point is 00:08:24 the night with a tap on their shoulder and as soon as they open their eyes there's going to say anything else. And what happens next? These squatters will wake up in the middle of the night with a tap on their shoulder. And as soon as they open their eyes, there's going to be two or three guys in ski masks. And one guy is just going to rain a crowbar down on his kneecap. Smack! And then the squatter is going to scream. And they're going to say, you've been warned. And they're going to leave. And when the cops show up, if they show up, the neighbors are all going to say, we didn't see anything.
Starting point is 00:08:42 That's where we're heading because of the laws they're passing. Because the police are all going to say we didn't see anything that's where we're heading because of the laws they're passing because the police are defending the criminals and now you got this crazy story which we'll get into as well in a minute of the illegal immigrant criminal alien saying here's how you steal homes from people in america land invasion that one's particularly disturbing because of the way he was saying it in my opinion he was angry and he was serious about it he was like this is how we go get places to live in the u.s we just steal them that video is worth watching that's nuts when when civilizations stop respecting property rights this is what you get i mean yeah you have you got to move your mic
Starting point is 00:09:16 you mumbled the most amazing thing sir i thought you're gonna keep saying that but i said last night exactly so when you said it i was like yeah i said exactly the same thing last night okay rights and phil talked about two property rights once they go like everything falls it I thought you were going to keep saying that, but I said that last night. Exactly. So when you said it, I was like, yeah, I said exactly the same thing last night. Property rights. And Phil talked about two property rights. Once they go, everything falls apart. Exactly. And in that void, what arises? Well, mafiosos.
Starting point is 00:09:34 People that will come in and they will enforce property rights on behalf of the citizens. And that is the only just way of dealing with property is that you have to have some sort of chain of title. If you're going to totally disavow and disrespect that in the state of New York, well, then you're going to see the rise of mafia again. Let's be real. All these flash mob burglaries and robberies that we're seeing would not happen if the mafia still existed the way it did back in the day. Capone, for instance. At least the narrative we think we know about the mafia when a couple when a couple local guys show up to your little grocery store and they say it's
Starting point is 00:10:10 time to pay us our protection money and that's viewed so negatively in like movie tropes it's like oh no they're shaking me down and if you don't pay they smash things up i tell you this i would want to live that way i don't know if anybody would want to live that way you want to you want to live in a world where when someone comes and threatens your business, the cops are there at a moment's notice and they deal with it. And we have the right to defend ourselves
Starting point is 00:10:32 while we're waiting for them. Like that guy in New York, they're trying to kill him, the bodega owner. And then when he wrestles the knife away and stabs back, they lock him up. But my point real quick, if we still lived in that world where the mob guys came down, went to this bodega, went to this department store and said, pay us our protection money. These roving bands of criminal gangs wouldn't exist.
Starting point is 00:10:57 The moment any one group of kids or young men or whatever went to rob a store, they'd wake up in the middle of the night. There'd be two guys in ski masks they'd tap them on the shoulder and there'd be a crack with a crowbar in their kneecap and they'd say you don't steal from us see the organized crime wants to keep everything in line so they can keep the money flowing these roving gangs are destroying the system all around them so it's it's barbarism versus conquest the strategy was, we're going to own the territory. You keep working because I want money next week. What we're seeing now is barbarism, which is loot, pillage, burn.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Well, and it's what we're seeing in a lot of places that are spilling refugees out into the US. We're seeing that in Haiti. The capital is completely under siege. Basically, you have government officials resigning because they can't maintain any control over the population but the thing with the the thing with the squatters and we've seen this in a couple of places we've seen it in la we've seen it in atlanta philadelphia we've seen this you
Starting point is 00:11:54 know across the board squatters break into a house in florida and they just live there and when the person gets back they have absolutely no rights to their own property i find that as a property owner i'll be at a recent one really terrifying like i don't want people in my house it shouldn't be this way but what everyone keeps saying is you just have to use the law as the law stands which would be if you find a squatter in your house you draft up a work agreement for the squatter you then sign a lease for your friend and then your friend calls the cops and says the guy who works here evicted me illegally and then what happens is the squatter becomes a worker for you and you can say yeah look i have a work arrangement with him here's my here's my paper here's the reality that seems wacky i know but but like this is the problem this is how
Starting point is 00:12:38 society breaks down exactly because people think if i am moral and correct the police will have my back i'm a good person and the the cops say, I don't care. I don't care who you think you are. That's the thing people forget when they call the police. I remember this Australian woman who was shot to death by police, I think in Chicago a couple of years ago when she called police because she thought someone was breaking into the house. And then the police showed up and they shot her to death. But like, that's what everyone forgets. When you call police, they don't know who the good guy and the bad guy is they just know that there's some people and there's a situation and they're
Starting point is 00:13:08 there to protect themselves for the most part and so they look at everybody like they're a criminal this is like you know how they talk about you know have the conversation with your kids about the cops that's the conversation i had with my kid about the cop don't call the cops unless you're prepared to get shot by the cops i think that the the mistake is in perceiving the state and the mafia to be significantly different i mean what is your the same sort of uh you know extortion fee that you pay to the mafia to lend your business protection you pay property taxes you pay local taxes like it's still it's still yeah contract the mafia is not there anymore right right but they've they've left because the state became so powerful that they were the biggest gang in town now the state even though it's extraordinarily
Starting point is 00:13:49 powerful it's still deteriorating in its ability to protect property rights therefore you will see people turn back to you know organized crime to defend their property i my my isn't the real reason that we lost organized crime because of the RICO Act and Rudy Giuliani? Like, it's not. It can be argued that, but what is that? That's an extraordinarily powerful gang itself. It just became so much more powerful it was able to lock up the smaller gang. That's honestly my perception of the state versus mafia.
Starting point is 00:14:19 It's a monopoly on violence. You either cede the monopoly on violence towards the state or you turn towards organized crime. I don't see it as being distinctly different because I still don't have an option to opt out if I want to protect my property. So you're saying it's Rudy Giuliani's fault that all this crime is happening? No, I'm saying he fixed New York as usual. I'm kidding. Yeah. You'd rely on local cops, ideally, so you don't have some organized state protection. Well, yes. state well yes the protection the the lowest level monopoly on violence is is uh preferable
Starting point is 00:14:45 to the highest level for sure which is why i i lean towards texas when it comes to the border dispute versus the feds who have completely abdicated their duty i'm trying to wrap my mind around property rights and the evolution of property rights in the united states i imagine when we first this country began it was like get off my lawn i mean it was just like shoot first don't ask questions basically when there was there was the frontier. There were property rights where I have a gun, basically. So when did it, how did it evolve into like, I'm safe now because my property is protected by the government? I think it's a cultural framework. But yeah, I mean, Lockean property rights is kind of where the concept comes from. America was obviously very special. I think this is what people really
Starting point is 00:15:23 need to understand is that what made America the wealthiest country on earth, primarily above everything else, above our military might and everything else, was the fact that we honored property rights. And when you are an investor, which I was a money manager for 15 years, the biggest thing you're looking for is obviously above and beyond return on investment is security of your investment. And if you don't have that, you're not going to deploy any capital. It freezes up the market. New York is a perfect example. Kevin O'Leary won't shut up about it. But I agree with him. I'm just saying this man is pissed. The reason he's pissed is because he understands this is existential to his business.
Starting point is 00:15:59 He is a real estate investor. He is a investor in businesses. If you don't have a clean chain of title and enforcement of property rights, you do have your wealth it is the end of it is the end of the capitalist model so we have no choice right now but to start seeking out a plan b secondary coffee distributor casprew is our distributor is based in uh just out not in new york city kind of maybe like an hour outside or around the, in the metro, but in the suburbs in a very moderate area. The guy who owns it's super cool. They're great. They're anti-cancel culture. They're good people. But we have, that doesn't even mean anything. At any moment, New York has stated they will seize the assets of any business that dare oppose them.
Starting point is 00:16:41 And so, you know, I'm talking with the team and i'm like do we just say it's going to be fine nothing's going to happen and then one day casper is shut down and we're on a one-year hiatus where we have no no coffee production or do we start looking for reserve distributors who can pick up our formulas and start you know helping uh distribute our product for us in the event that new york makes this move which i gotta be honest it's it's not even about i don't think that new york goes to our coffee company it's like it's a lottery tickets chance what i think happens is new york passes a law which puts a boot down on all of the businesses and then creates a very serious problem you look at what they're already doing they might put a morality bill or something hate speech who knows do any of that and then there's going to be a a tax or a levy or
Starting point is 00:17:29 some ridiculous attack on the business so it's just like i don't know what's coming all i know is we have no choice now because of what new york's new york is doing new york state with but i'll just i'll keep it as simple as I can. New York is a communist state. I don't like the word communism because it's archaic and we're dealing with something kind of different, but rooted in, so you can call it neo-communist or neocom or something, but there needs to be a new word for what it is.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Anarcho-tyrannical communism. No, it's exactly how communism functioned. Yeah, well, it's abolition of property rights. Well, and you need loyalty to the state. So it's an issue's abolition of property rights. You need loyalty to the state. If you don't have loyalty to the state. What's happening with crime and with property is exactly what Solzhenitsyn wrote about. And so the issue now with New York is the state has decided arbitrarily they can take from whoever they want. They can do whatever they want.
Starting point is 00:18:18 There are no rules. Nothing applies to them. Yes. I hope Trump gets elected and I hope Trump sends in the feds and just occupies New York. Well, I can't go with that direction because I'm still a states' rights guy, and I think that New York has every right to deteriorate right before our eyes. But obviously— That is incorrect. They have an obligation to uphold the Constitution of this country and adhere to the supreme law of the land, which they're not doing.
Starting point is 00:18:42 When a state— it's like if that's the case if that's the case then texas can't enforce the border because it's the feds that have taken that duty on i go i go the other route where i say decentralized authority allow the states to to compete innovation that's actually incorrect because the ninth and tenth amendment protect texas's right to defend itself in the abs and and i believe how has that worked out for us so far tim it doesn't matter how it works out for us what matters is texas has the absolute right to defend itself when the federal government is derelict they're not imposing themselves against the rights of their citizens new york is attacking the constitutional rights of american citizens that that is a rogue state that needs to be brought to heel well i mean that is that is the justification that leads towards civil wars i am in favor of the federal government cannot enforce the constitution then
Starting point is 00:19:30 there is no united states so would it be like they'd reduce funding to new york or something they would they would strip funding but i think they need to go one step further i think i hope trump gets elected and any any he appoints someone maybe cash patel uh to ag and then they immediately begin all the criminal probes and inquiries into Letitia James and Garan, for instance. Letitia James' donation history, all of that stuff. And at the very least, there should be tons of
Starting point is 00:19:53 civil rights lawsuits brought against her and all these other officials in New York City and state. Kathy Hochul, for instance, bringing a National Guard, while in New York, the big story that Anna Kasparian is going on off about, and I completely agree with her, is they found people living in a home with dismembered body parts. And they say, we're not going to put them in jail. You're free to go.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Your trial will be at a later date. Kathy Hochul wasn't even elected. This is nuts. No, she was the lieutenant governor under Cuomo. So she was elected because we elect the lieutenant governor. So she was ready to go. She was like the next one in basically line she was basically like vp yeah but like i think that she and leticia james colluded to to oust cuomo from office i think it's pretty clear that that's
Starting point is 00:20:33 what they did why do you think that because they they drummed up all of these you know like sex things against him that were basically fake sex things and then as soon as they pushed him out of office and got had Hochul in there, they dropped all the charges. Well, can I circle back to your point earlier? Because I think that the real question of our time, honestly, and it's a big one, is have we become so different as a people, culturally and otherwise, that we can still coexist? And do you want to use the federal government to bring these people to heal because the reality is that many people in california and
Starting point is 00:21:09 new york do not share my values are our values when it comes to upholding the bill of rights i'm not interested in going to war with those people i'm not i don't i don't so so the thing i disagree with you on is i believe america is a country i believe america exists i believe that we have a constitution laid forth by our founding fathers and a and a great nation was was was built before our very eyes agreed by many people who decided to plant trees whose shade they knew they would never sit beneath indeed now you have communists stripping people of their rights destroying this country and it is imperative this country protects itself what was the uh the the idea that you would allow an invading force to come in and you'd go wait wait instead of actually defending our territory let them have it well see this is the difference
Starting point is 00:21:48 tim these aren't invaders these are people that are ideologically invaders no i'm talking about the people that come out of academia that believe in communism these are not invaders these are people born in america right and they bring in millions of people who are invaders well and so that too yes when those invaders give the far leftists additional congressional seats which is what what they're doing indeed between 13 and 17 it is an invading occupying force and that opposes intended on conquest i agree and and it is imperative this country brings california and new york to heal should we bring back the uh the the fractional value of a human like remember in the constitution
Starting point is 00:22:25 they said that slaves were worth what three-fourths of you so illegal immigrants counting towards so in regards to counting them towards delegates to the to the no but you don't think so because you're either a citizen or you're not this is exactly what the argument was in the civil war the south said a slave is a person and should count towards apportionment and voting because it gave them more power in the exactly and then the democrats said they shouldn't count at all they're not free sovereign citizens and so they compromised and the south said how about this we count them three fifths democrats love having second class citizens it's what they do well this is exactly what you see so much going on too you see people on social media being like you know if we get rid of the illegal immigrants
Starting point is 00:23:02 strawberries are going to cost 20 like do you really want that we need these people to do all of the work that we're not going to do. If you're concerned about the cost of strawberries, you ought to be focused on ending the Federal Reserve. I just saw a video of drones. Have you seen this? Swarm drones picking fruit off trees and going back to the bucket. That's cool. I want to jump to this clip.
Starting point is 00:23:18 This is Sean Fitzgerald tweeted this out. Actual justice warrior. Yeah, this was interesting. A lot of people in America, and yes, that includes on the left, feel exactly like Anna Kasparian in this mega rant. How does it make sense that you have the National Guard searching old ladies in the subway, but the four arrested for dismembering two people get released automatically without bail? It's about three minutes. Gotta play it. Dismembering a corpse and hiding a corpse after dismembering it. Not bail eligible, not a serious crime.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I'm not even kidding guys, like when Joy Behar outlined that case, I was like, she's crazy, this isn't a thing, this isn't real, this isn't real. So I looked it up, it's real guys, it's real. Listen, if being on the left means supporting this, then I'm not on the left and I'm okay with that. So let me give you the details of the case. It doesn't mean that. Okay, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Let me give you the details. We're all on the left. We don't want people dismembering folks getting released. Only a couple of lunatic. Some do, some do. I know. Anna's completely right. Yes, she is.
Starting point is 00:24:18 100% right. There's videos of people cheering on violence and crime. There's videos of leftists smiling as people are beaten and injured. They cheer for this. We've got viral videos all over Twitter right now of mobs of men beating other people in the street. And they're like, look at these flash mobs like the virus is getting crazy. And the left and the press and the Democrats ignore all of it because they do want the breakdown. And Cenk, desperate to maintain his position among his viewers, refuses to admit it while Anna actually looks into it and says it's really happening. And I'll give another shout out to Anna Kasparian.
Starting point is 00:24:55 When she looked into the Kyle Rittenhouse thing and goes, I was wrong about that. Remember that one? Kyle Rittenhouse defended himself. She said, oh, he's bad. And then later was like, I actually looked into it and I realized, wow, I was wrong. Props to her. Listen to what she has to say. Listen to this story. I was going to do what I was in the middle of saying is only a couple of lunatic activists are like, yeah, we're pro dismemberment guys being let go. Okay, whatever. You don't represent the left at all.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Dismembered bodies. It's so unfair to put them in prison. Okay, let me give you the details of the actual case. Okay. So four people were arrested in New York after body parts were found in Long Island. Okay, dismembered body parts. The victims were two people from Yonkers, older individuals. Suffolk County Police say 44 year old Stephen Brown, 38 year old Jeffrey Mackey, 40 year old Amanda Wallace and 33 year old Alexis Neves or Neves were charged with concealment of a corpse, tampering with physical evidence and hindering prosecution. They have not been charged with murder. Prosecutors told a judge there was so much
Starting point is 00:25:58 blood in the pipes, in pipes, sink, shower and toilet of the Railroad Avenue home in Amityville, where the suspects were arrested that it was deemed uninhabitable. Police said they confiscated meat cleavers, butcher knives, flesh and body parts. Attorneys for Brown and Mackey admitted that their clients lived in that home where the body parts and all that blood was found. But denied chopping up 59 year oldyear-old woman and 53-year-old man whose last known address was in Yonkers.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Wallace also lived with Brown and Mackey in Amityville. Police said that Knives is homeless. Okay, all four pleaded not guilty. The judge released them without bail. They were fitted with GPS monitoring and must report in person for in person probation and surrender their passports. I don't care about their passports. Dude, guys, guys, like what?
Starting point is 00:26:56 Okay, so did further research because I just couldn't believe it. Here's more with 2019 state reforms, mutilation and disposal of murdered corpses are among crimes that are no longer bail eligible. Congratulations New York on that one. DA said the four went to barbaric lengths to cover the crime. What are we doing? What are we doing? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:27:24 What are we doing, Cenk? What are we doing? What are we doing? I have no idea. What are we doing, Cenk? What are we doing? What are we doing? Someone tell me, what the F are we doing? Yeah, look, no one signed up for this. That's not true. I don't know how these laws passed. I went to every progressive conference there was over the last 20 years.
Starting point is 00:27:39 He doesn't know how these laws got passed. I watched it get passed. We wrote about it. We all said. We kept saying, this is a terrible idea don't have you know no bail all the time in new york city we saw this we saw this repeatedly and then they said oh it's not for it's only for non-violent crimes and then you'd see some guy get released with no bail and go back and kill his girlfriend who he was arrested for harassing in the first place did chank sleep through all of 2020 when there was mobs in the street shouting to abolish the police?
Starting point is 00:28:07 Did he miss that? He was initially defending the far left, later came out and was critical of violence and riots, probably when he decided he wanted to run for president, needed moderate support. Now that he's not anymore, no one on the left signed up for this. I'm so sick of hearing that because it is quite literally only the left that is advocating for these laws that the way he said that no one signed up for this is kind of um it's like if so you give someone power they tell you it's going to be okay it's going to be okay it's going to be okay they for years and you're like i just don't think it is no there's all these
Starting point is 00:28:37 problems no it's going to be okay it's gonna then the final moment they're like oh i i didn't mean for this to happen right like well i will I will say real quick on that point. They say it's not going to happen. You're overreacting. Far right conspiracy theory. Then when it is happening, they say it's not that big of a deal. You are you're overreacting. It's just a few fringe activists.
Starting point is 00:28:58 And then when it is law and commonplace, they go, it's what we always wanted. Right. And it's a good thing. And they usually they usually pivot all the way to that. But fortunately, it's not that far gone. Right. And it's a good thing. And it's a good thing. They usually pivot all the way to that. But fortunately, Cenk's not that far gone. But sorry to interrupt your saying. Oh, no, I just, I think that there is one aspect of what Cenk is saying is true in that
Starting point is 00:29:14 no one elected these DAs that Soros funded and kind of pushed forward to implement. What do you mean? They didn't elect them. They elected them for this very purpose. Yeah. The outcome is the goal. My point is, when they campaign, most of these DAs don't run on the policy
Starting point is 00:29:30 of no longer enforcing property rights and violent crimes. Not all of them. No, the Soros DAs quite literally say, we're going to release criminals. We're going to enact bail reform. Well, if that's true, then I have no idea why people are casting votes. They don't vote at all.
Starting point is 00:29:44 We see it all the time. Most people don't vote. And we had the New York City Police Commissioner come out a year, two years ago saying that we need to end bail reform because it's doing really badly. Illinois ended cash bail like three years ago. We see this all over the place. This is what happens. Violent people get released.
Starting point is 00:30:00 They go back and wreak more havoc on society. And then you have Petereter navarro yep in prison while he's waiting in for an appeal in his contempt of congress charge for not complying with a january 6th committee subpoena this and that's absolutely insane you have this old man it could potentially be a death sentence just sitting there waiting for his appeal i'm gonna say it again he doesn't get bail but all these people do to all the people who keep saying you can't blame the cops, there are officers who put a journalist, Steve Baker, in shackles as they brought him in. That's federal law enforcement. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:30:35 I get it. I get it very different. There are police officers that will lock the door on Peter Navarro. There's correctional officers that will open the door for criminals to be released and then arrest you for jaywalking that's right what's most infuriating to to me and the i'll speak for the libertarians on this one hopefully they allow me to um i i'm i'm heartbroken because the reality is that there was a lot of peaceful you know non-violent offenders is what libertarians were most concerned about because being the land of the free and having the most per capita incarceration rate was an atrocity, in my opinion. However, no one in our camp, as far as I know, was interested in releasing people
Starting point is 00:31:16 that were guilty of violent crime or property crime. It was only the nonviolent drug offenses and diminishing the severity of sentences when it comes to nonviolent issues at minimum. This has become bedlam. And what will be a consequence of this? And this is, I think, plays perfectly in the Cloward-Piven strategy of sowing discord so that in that implosion, what will the people turn to? They're going to turn toward the state, the state which exactly is responsible for creating this crisis in the first place. And they're going to say, protect me. And that's going to increase their
Starting point is 00:31:49 power ultimately. And at this point I can't even blame them because if you're looking at this insanity like Anika Sparian is, it's very human to say, I need someone to make this stop. And we do. We need to see it stop. How long until she announces she's voting Trump? Oh, do you think she will?
Starting point is 00:32:06 Do you think she would do that? Based on this rant, I believe there's a strong probability that Anna Kasparian eventually comes out and says she's voting Trump. We got to have her on some shows. Culture War, IRL. She liked a couple of my or one of my tweets about a month ago, too, about self-improvement. She's definitely on a good path. I think Anna's arc is that she, like many other liberals, began actually fact-checking things for the show.
Starting point is 00:32:28 And it probably occurred when she was wrong about something, got a bunch of tweets, and she was like, what was I wrong about? And then checked. And I think the being called a uterus haver. It's infuriating. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:32:39 There was something that she was called. And she said, hey, that's demeaning. Don't call me that. Yeah. They attacked her for it. I think this pushes her in the direction of look when you fact check the news you're instantly right wing that's just it jen kuger is an agent of propaganda in that he says it's only a few activists who want this tell me then how the law got passed as they campaigned exactly for this because it is not it is the leaders of
Starting point is 00:33:07 the political movement who have been screaming to the high heavens abolish the police outright writing in the new york times yes we mean abolish the police and then when you go how did this happen uh because y'all campaigned for it i will i will say this though you know if you want to see the anna casperians of the world actually consider Trump, she had another vile rant just last week where she was arguing against our foreign policy and the aid that was being sent to Israel. Now, I think that it ought to be applied universally that the America First movement, which I think really brought Trump to power, was supposed to be focused on domestic politics and increasing and improving the lives of the American people and kind of setting to the back burner at minimum the foreign policy issues that we've been dealing
Starting point is 00:33:52 with my entire lifetime. And now you have Trump that's campaigning on, he's the biggest friend of Israel and he's going to take care of them better than Biden ever would. And I think that Anna Kasparian is not going to be a supporter of Trump for that reason. I think she's probably going to end up in the RFK camp, but he's also pretty pro-Israel, so I don't know. Someone Anna knows is going to get mercilessly beaten in the streets of California. Yeah. Like, this crime is happening so intensely, it's affecting everybody. And it's fascinating that, especially with illegal immigration, when I talked to, like I mentioned a couple weeks ago, I was talking to this Gen Z guy and he says he's voting Trump. He voted for Biden in 2020. And I said, I think, I was like, I think
Starting point is 00:34:28 the reason that Gen Z is shifting towards Trump is because of illegal immigration. And he was like, yeah, that's it basically. And I was like, my view is this woman whose parents died and she inherited the house is the perfect metaphor for this country our parents and the and our parents parents and our parents parents parents planted trees whose shade they knew they would never sit beneath to be real they planted trees they actually sat beneath right they built houses they lived in them they built bridges they crossed them and then they said when you're old enough you will inherit all that we have built this woman's parents. They leave the house to their daughter and their granddaughter.
Starting point is 00:35:06 And the police arrest the woman for trying to take her birthright. And this is what we are seeing now in this country. They are bringing in criminal aliens, non-citizens flooding this country. Crime is skyrocketing. And they are, and these Democrats don't care.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Gen Z is now asking the question, where is the home that I was supposed to inherit? Where is the job? Where is the life? Where is the American dream? It's not there for me. Well, I got news for you. Democrats gave it away. They're giving it away every day at the southern border.
Starting point is 00:35:37 That's why we oppose this. No, I think that's absolutely right. And when you see the migrant that came across that viral clip that I'm sure I know you're going to play here soon, when you see in his eyes, there's a level of, like really the ideology, the philosophy, actually it transcribes pretty well onto leftist voters in this country. It is one of envy and viciousness. It is one of the desire to steal things that have not been earned by them. It is a perception that those that have earned have not in fact done so in a just fashion. It's one of jealousy and envy. And I think it's a very, it's a, you know, I'm not even a very religious person, but
Starting point is 00:36:14 I think it's very, you know, they talk about this in the Bible quite a bit. So it's one that leads towards disaster. And I think that that's what we're witnessing is is decades of people being educated at the highest levels in academia to believe um that meritocracy is no longer valid that that if you get ahead it's it's in some way evil so you don't have to believe that stuff let's jump to the story we have the tweet from libs of tiktok holy smokes tiktoker is advising illegals on how to take over americans homes via progressive squatters' rights laws. This TikToker boasts that his friends already took over seven homes. Unreal.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Now, speaking Spanish, I don't know. I mean, there's an English translation, I guess. We can play the video. Oh, we love X. Let's play the video and the video freezes because that's what next does. Capiche, muchachos? Here in United States, the invasion of land is also applied. And I think that will be my next business. Invading abandoned houses. I have looked for some codes with my African friends.
Starting point is 00:37:43 And they told me that they already have like seven houses expropriated and as the saying goes, Papi, we have to look for the return and it is the only way we have to not live on the street and not be a public burden. Capiche? The law says that abandoned, deteriorated houses and that they are in poor condition, we can come and repair them, live in them, and if we can, sell them. Okay, so I don't speak Spanish. I only, I could understand about half of what he was saying. Same. The top section in writing on the video says, we could invade houses in the US.
Starting point is 00:38:40 What do you think of the new law? And you got a guy basically saying yo let's go and take these houses well i think this is actually a good opportunity for me to push back against the open borders crowd in the libertarian movement there is this perception amongst many in the open borders uh libertarian movement that every migrant is just someone looking for a better life that ultimately ultimately, if they were to be here, they would have and uphold our values. And that's as simple as it gets. And they ought to have all of the same rights that we do, human rights and whatnot. I am a firm believer that
Starting point is 00:39:15 the Constitution, the Bill of Rights does not grant us the right to self-defense. I do think that it is a universal human right. However, you do not have a right, not all 7 billion people on the planet have a right to be an American. And therefore, right however you do not have a right although not not all seven billion people on the planet have a right to be an american and therefore not all seven billion people have a right to come to america while armed that that looks like an invasion to me and as a domestic uh you know born and bred person i think it's fair to perceive it that way particularly when you have gentlemen like this that are coming across the border saying i intend to seize your home so for for people who weren't watching there is a translation but i'll i'll give you just a bit dane hit me up he speaks spanish uh his first language
Starting point is 00:39:50 he's saying there's a law you can steal someone's house if they're not in it and then he says his next business will be to invade houses since some african friends of his have already done it seven times it's the only way to get by and not be in the streets steal them fix them and resell them he said something about his right of return he mentioned something like that yeah land invasion crazy i uh you know honestly i i look forward to hearing the news these people are going to go to new york it it's insanely easy when we look at that woman who got arrested and take nothing they're going to be able to do about it someone's here's what they're going to do they're going to get they're going to go to a cell phone store they're going to say yo give me a cell phone and they say what's your address and they're going to be able to do about it. Here's what they're going to do. They're going to go to a cell phone store. They're going to say,
Starting point is 00:40:26 yo, give me a cell phone. And they say, what's your address? And they're going to tell them the address and say, okay. Then they're going to say, email me the bill. They get emailed the bill and the receipt with the address on it.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Boom, just like that. Now they can go to the place and say, I have a receipt from one month ago. See, I live here. That's it. They can get an Airbnb, pay rent to the Airbnb, get a cell phone
Starting point is 00:40:44 and then go to the Airbnb, stand outside, call the cops and say, I've been unlawfully evicted. Can you open the door? Right. And they'll, okay. Well, and then, I mean, the obvious next step, and this once again plays into Cloward Piven, is that amnesty is not far off. I mean, you have to-
Starting point is 00:40:59 You got to explain Cloward Piven. Who is that? Cloward Piven, it was a political strategy that was formulated in the 1960s by two gentlemen named Cloward and Piven that they ultimately I believe you're correct. Oh really? This was the thing Charlie Fratch and James Lindsay were both Okay, sorry, not gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:41:15 My mistake. But anyways the concept was that in order to collapse the system and overwhelm it to create, it's basically it plays right into Marxism-Commun communism that in the ashes, you can, you know, create whatever you wish.
Starting point is 00:41:28 So the, the way that you create the ashes is to overwhelm the system. You overwhelm it from multiple fronts, including debt, finance, manipulation, the currency, and ultimately,
Starting point is 00:41:37 you know, abdication of, of duty when it comes to defending property rights, things of that nature. You overwhelm every, every element of the system to where the system can't hold anything anymore. That's what the British tried to do to the Chinese at the end of the 1800s too, what the Boxer Rebellion was all about. They were like, get out, get out, stop shipping opium into our country, you're killing us.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I think it's really important for people to understand that illegal immigration has been an issue our entire lifetimes. But when you look at the historical averages throughout the Bush administration all the way into the Clinton administration, we're now talking about figures that are 10x what they were on average. That is not organic. And if you actually look at – No, it's definitely not organic. It's not organic. But people continue to talk about this as if like, well, these people are just here looking for a better life.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Look, that doesn't happen organically. It hasn't happened until now. You have to ask yourself why. If you look at the United Nations, if you look at the funding, the United States taxpayer is being robbed to fund the United Nations, which then turns around and hands out cell phones and maps and financial support to this migrant caravan operation that is ran by these NGOs to get these people here. The reason that it's north of 3 million annually and increasing is because it's an op that's being ran. If you look at the United Nations plans when it comes to agenda 2030 and all of the things that play into the world economic forum this is not organic and until people are willing to have that
Starting point is 00:42:53 conversation until people to realize that this is not just happening out of the blue if you look at what's happened in europe if you looked at the crime rates that are increasing all of this is is coming for america and it's it's like i feel like people are sleepwalking right into the other thing too that i think people don't realize is that you can if you're in if you're in a would-be an illegal immigrant you can download an app that was manufactured by the biden administration called cbp1 and it's an app that you where you can request an appointment to present yourself at a land port of entry to enter illegally you can do that you can make an appointment and the biden administration also in 2023 they said that their plan was to
Starting point is 00:43:30 double the number of refugees from western from the western hemisphere and would commit to welcoming thousands of additional refugees per month from the western hemisphere the goal of doubling um to and it was where were they it was venezuela nicaragua cuba and haiti were part of the expanded parole process announced to accept up to 30 000 individuals per month from those nations wow that is their plan they said it they put it on their website and if they said this is their plan it's not just the united nations it's literally the biden administration telling everybody that this is the plan like you saw after Biden was elected, there were people lining up at the border with Thank You Joe Biden t-shirts on.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Well, and keep in mind that the United Nations is predominantly funded by the United States of America. So any plan that they have that they're pushing is ultimately still being dictated to a certain extent by U.S. government officials. And vice versa, it's kind of a two-way street. But the reality is that if you actually look at the language that they're using, they're talking about equity. They're talking about all of the same woke nonsense that we're all pushing back against in the United States of America. This is a global plan to bring about equity when it comes to nations.
Starting point is 00:44:38 They want to have the poorest amongst us in all of the world. It is now our duty because we've had it too good for too long we now have to have these people come here so that they can benefit from the the you know institutional wealth and success that we've had in america i reject that entirely i am not a globalist i still believe that that there is something to be said for meritocracy if you want to uphold what made america, including property rights and capitalism. You're going to have to reject this open borders nonsense. And if you don't, if you refuse that path, you will end up in a socialist hellhole. And that is exactly what the LP of Louisiana and any of these open borders libertarians are advocating on behalf of.
Starting point is 00:45:19 And I'm going to lose a hell of a lot of support for saying this, but I am telling the goddamn truth. You are in the Anacosperian camp where you're saying if this is what it means to be a libertarian i'm not a libertarian anymore yeah absolutely and we don't we don't we don't have a token libertarian to be like no no you're okay you can still be a libertarian yeah well and you know what that's fine if they if they want to reject me there there will be a the the delegates will decide end of may if if my perception of these matters is in alignment with their belief system. Murray Rothbard had a very similar revelation in the 1990s. He realized that the USSR had used illegal immigration to flood Eastern Bloc nations to topple them.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I believe strongly that's what we're witnessing. libertarian is going to advocate on behalf of open borders when that is in alignment with globalist plans that are being pushed by government and institutions all over the world against the american people then you have lost the plot you have lost your mind you mentioned that the un is is part of this 2030 agenda thing where they're involved with funding the migrants um and that you said that the united states is the biggest funder of the un but i think i take issue with that only in that it's the banks, it's the global banking establishment using the US dollar through the Federal Reserve, through the Bank for International Settlements to pump the UN and screw the people of the United States because American constitutionalism is in the way of oligarchy. It's blocking the technocracy that's trying to control the planet.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Right. I agree. These are super national institutions, but at their core, though, they uphold values that I find totally reprehensible. I'm not interested in globalism. I am not interested in socialism or globalism. And these people push that through every lever of power you can imagine. death of the libertarian party's chances at winning anything now of course it's fair to say no one really expected libertarians to win and i'm not trying to be a dick sorry clint it's okay but the libertarians do very very well but they never do quite well enough well now we have this tweet from the libertarian party of louisiana whether you're a citizen legal resident or undocumented migrant you deserve the right to defend yourself and your loved ones. Rights are for everyone. Arm the migrants. The purpose of the Second Amendment is to protect people and their rights.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Those under attack deserve the right to defense no matter where they're from. The reason why I say this is officially the death of Libertarian Party's chances at anything is that in this country, you have Democrats, moderates, Republicans, independents, all in agreement that there is a crisis of illegal immigration and crime and now the libertarian party of louisiana
Starting point is 00:47:49 publicly announced we should give guns to these people yeah now i know it's just the libertarian party of louisiana right but we know how branding works yes it's not it's not beneficial to the broader movement in my opinion um in my estimation no disrespect to the LP Louisiana, but they are the Funhouse Mirrors version of the LPNH of New Hampshire. And you know what? The people that love this messaging absolutely despise me, and they despise Libertarian Party of New Hampshire, and they despise Dave Smith, and they despise Ron Paul, and that's fine. If you want to have that fight, we can have it. As I said, the delegates will decide. Do you want to uphold the vision that Ron Paul had moving forward and elect someone like myself to be our representative? Or are you interested in going in the complete polar opposite direction? Now, at first I tweeted, don't care. Second Amendment, we should just be able to defend ourselves. But someone instantly made the correct point that as criminals, they actually have a due process restriction on those people are already determined to have entered the country illegally the crime is an afterthought criminal status is inherent in criminal alien
Starting point is 00:49:12 therefore they should not be able to possess firearms as they are criminals well i gotta tie it right back into clara piven if you're if if donald trump is to be re-elected and he is to do as he's promised many times the largest deportation uh you know plan in in american history well if you're going to arm the migrants that's going to make this a very tumultuous as luke radowski might say uh situation tumultuous i think the unfortunate reality is no matter what ends up happening if the end goal was to create an authoritarian machine, it is inevitability. Exactly. Right now, we have Donald Trump will get elected.
Starting point is 00:49:52 And when he does, he will begin deporting deporting people. They will begin going after corrupt individuals and they will move towards a security state in an effort to stop the crime created by Democrats. I see no other solution to dealing with the security issues in our cities and crime and illegal immigration. I suppose perhaps the answer is our communities need to be stronger. We need to defend ourselves. We need to go to either community centers once a week to meet our neighbors or church whatever it may be but short of that happening what likely will happen is in the event trump gets elected and began begins to enact what we would feel as a cleanup he will not be president forever and then if democrats make a move in 2028 and inherit any of these powers then we're just in for more screwed yeah that's the thing it's a rock and a hard place your enemies are going to use the same things that you you know put aside
Starting point is 00:50:44 for yourself. Exactly. And this is exactly why I was pushing back earlier and saying, let's let New York go because I would rather have tech. No, just just hear me out. The reason the reason I'm saying that is because I want to have the Floridas and the Texas's of the world allowed to uphold my beliefs. This country is divided irreparably. Texas is on the brink. Well, that's true. It is. uphold my beliefs that this country is divided irreparably on the brink well that's true it is
Starting point is 00:51:05 yes but the the idea that like communists have taken new york so we better let them take it well that's insane here's the reality you can say it's insane you can say it's insane tim but here's the reality those people have all of the institutional power what you're advocating for now is far more likely to be used against you than you will ever use it against them welcome to war institutions yeah i'm not interested in which which which side were you on are which side who are the good guys in the civil war i don't think there was one that didn't right though i don't know about that you had slavery that should not exist right but then you had abraham lincoln being like let's arrest politicians and judges let's arrest people without cause without one guy famously got arrested and
Starting point is 00:51:44 was locked up and he refused to cooperate he was like screw you f off he was in maryland and they created a corridor from dc to maryland from dc through maryland to pennsylvania where they suspended hapeas corpus and just arrested random people who they thought were troublemakers they arrested i think it was like what 26 members of the maryland state legislature for having confederate sentiment that's basically what katonji brown jackson was arguing for in the in the Murphy versus Missouri case the other day. Well, not arguing for she's not supposed to argue for anything. But there she was out there saying, doesn't the government have the right to to basically violate the First Amendment in a time of crisis? Let's let's let's try this.
Starting point is 00:52:20 It's horrifying. Why? Why? Why didn't the Confederates march after the first battle of Bull Run into D.C.? You tell me. I don't know. They didn't think there was a war. They thought that was it.
Starting point is 00:52:32 We repelled the North. The North invaded the South, and we pushed them back. It's over. And then the North said, we need more troops. More people go. And it expanded the Civil War. So when you talk about, we should have a national divorce. We should let these states go go those states don't stop the communists who are in those states aren't going to be like
Starting point is 00:52:48 yay we're independent now they're going to say okay send the police down to jersey jersey's ours next yeah and then you're going to go you can have jersey then they're going to go okay maryland you can have maryland now now rodent it's all yours all yours and then eventually all you have is florida and then they surround florida and they go, and now we will do what you did not and we will take you by force. This is always the biggest debate when it comes to military conflict is where do you put your feet in the ground?
Starting point is 00:53:13 Are you willing to fight at this point or do you think it's more prudent and practical to withdraw, reinforce and re-up? I don't know what the answer is. But at my core, i'm extraordinarily against war so i'm going to avoid it until it's the absolute last option and i think and it is not war it is the prevention of war for donald trump to criminally charge under our constitutional laws in the legal process the corrupt individuals in these states look fannie willis is accused of
Starting point is 00:53:42 perjury the guy she was dating who resigned was accused of perjury. The judge telling them to break up confirmed there was an improper relationship, but then doesn't penalize Fannie Willis in any way. Right. OK, there needs to be a criminal investigation there. Trump lawyers have done to appeal on that. And Donald Trump appeal that ruling getting into office and then saying, I want my age to investigate perjury and crimes. Hunter Biden accused of perjury in this hearing hearing how is he not with bobby linsky this is amazing bobby linsky testifies that jim uh biden is in text records confirmed to be at a meeting that he said to congress he did not attend that's per. Right. It is not declaring war for Trump to be like, OK, well, the law should be upheld. Well, here's the issue.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Will will Trump do any of what you're describing? And I like I've said it many times. If Trump's rhetoric matched his actions, there could be some some hope for a second term of him. But when it comes to going after we're talking about the the most deeply embedded, most powerful institutions that have ever existed. And it's one man who's facing 750 years in prison and half a billion dollar fine right now. What do you think Trump's doing right now? If the concern really was that Trump would do nothing, Trump would have immediately gone to the deep state and said, I'm not going to run again. Leave me alone.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Let me go live in my golden toilet. And they would have said, yes. Instead, he says, I declare war. Well, maybe. Maybe. He maybe maybe five cases against maybe or they would have come after him regardless because they want to send a message to any political dissident in this country that if you challenge us you go away i forever i think trump could have easily gone to them and said let's well it's over i'm just going to be an old man on my golden toilet and they would have said okay and i wouldn't have blamed trump if he had gone that route. And my point is the fact that Trump is actually fighting all of this indicates when he gets in, it is going to be fire and brimstone. You might be right.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Or it could also be out of desperation that he realizes if he doesn't prevail in this election, he's going to prison for the rest of his life. So then when he gets elected, what does he do? Go now four years to hold off the deep state? Yeah. Well, he's got if he's if he has learned the lessons the the reason i'm skeptical other than what happened in 2020 is because he is already allegedly said he's not going to have vivek as his vp i think that he's going to put him in a cabinet position put him head of homeland security is that what is that the report okay i don't know right so when when when trump says no vivek you're not going to be
Starting point is 00:56:02 vp i'm considering you for head of homeland security or head secretary of homeland security or whatever the position is that sounds more like he goes vivek you need to, Vivek, you're not going to be VP. I'm considering you for head of Homeland Security or secretary of Homeland Security or whatever the position is. That sounds more like he goes, Vivek, you need to do what you said you're going to do. I'm going to put you in the position to do it. Okay. VP wouldn't do anything. Then that's great. Yeah, the VP doesn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Just look at Kamala Harris. I am not saying. The VP's in life insurance policy and he should definitely have Vivek as his VP. This is my point. If you're going to challenge the deep state, you've got to have an insurance. Whoever he picks needs to be worse than him. Yeah. Well, and he needs.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Select me, Trump. I'm right here, buddy. So that nothing happens to him. Who would be a good, like, Vermin Supreme would be great. It's got to be Vivek. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, because they'd be like, that's basically a threat. I feel like what we really need is someone who could go out there on the campaign trail
Starting point is 00:56:38 and, like, be as strong at rallies and things as Trump is. Oh, Vivek's the only guy in the gop i've seen do that even close yep yeah that's the challenge but uh putting uh the the rumor is homeland security in which case that's very much likely the vague firing everybody he would fire everybody he said he would fire everybody well that's fantastic fire everyone and then deport everyone i was interested in him as ag because i i think that prosecutions is what's really, really necessary. Yeah, but that's what cash can do. Maybe if it goes with cash, that'd be interesting.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Look, there's lots of options and there's lots of reasons for optimism. I'm just saying this dude is up against it. Like they are coming. They are throwing everything they have at him and they haven't even they haven't even really begun to fight. They can go way harder. We don't know we don't have any guarantees that trump walks into the white house throws off his jacket and he's just got like he's he's been working out he's ripped and he's like you have no idea what comes next i wish perhaps what we get is just a little
Starting point is 00:57:36 bit just firing of bureaucrats you get uh you get a cabinet that actually starts dealing with crimes, actually starts enforcing the law. It shutters what we're seeing with Georgia and New York and this Democrat corruption. It may be Joe Biden is all they have left. Who do they have for 2028? They got nothing. What about Newsom? Probably that's about it.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Newsom, like- American psycho? I gotta tell you, Newsom has, I don't know, B minus, right? Trump has X factor. Biden certainly doesn't, but they squeezed everything they could out of universal mail and voting and this shadow campaign, they called it in Time Magazine to make sure Biden won. But Biden also did, to be fair, have that Obama nostalgia effect after him.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Michelle Obama is a maybe, but she clearly doesn't want to do it. We'll see. But they do not have any backbench. It may be that after Trump, there's a huge Republican backbench. I mean, Tulsi Gabbard's effectively Republican at this point. People are talking about her as potentially VP. She's moderate that like you've got a wide range of republican potential candidates for 2028 unfortunately it's not desantis but you know that's his own fault yeah i just what what i'm disappointed in is that not
Starting point is 00:58:54 even setting the trump issue aside is just that there hasn't been any justice for the 2020 era that has come from the uh conservative ran house and it's like that that was the one thing you know with the thomas massey's and the ran pauls of the world those are those are my people and the fact that we haven't seen you know any criminal charges that are being brought and i know it's i know it's biden's ag but it's like man we need we need to have repercussions for what they put us through look at what they did to delaware right so in del so they had hunter biden they had charges for him. The IRS was like, hey, there's definitely charges here.
Starting point is 00:59:28 And they essentially colluded so that Hunter Biden didn't face any charges. And then the guy who was appointed to be the special counsel to investigate Hunter Biden is the attorney general for Delaware, who like used to chill with Beau Biden. Let's jump to the story from the Post Millennial. California rep Katie Porter predicts Trump will soon quote have his demise i don't know what his demise is going to be but he's going to have his demise i do think that we're allowing in a larger way the fear of trump the stakes are so high for lgbtq rights for abortion, for all of these things that we care passionately about to allow certain forces that benefit from the status quo to convince us we can't afford to change and we can't afford to be different.
Starting point is 01:00:13 And I think the ultimate problem with that is we're having a real problem with younger voters. We're having a problem with people choosing to register no party preference. Like, how do we build our party? What is our forward future message? And I think if I take anything away from this race, I really tried to focus on that. What are we going to do next? Where do we go in our economy? Where do we go in our society? And I think that the specter of Donald Trump looms large. And I absolutely feel that. And so people were like,
Starting point is 01:00:44 we got to think everything. Every decision has to be made in tension with Trump. Soon, Trump will lose or go to prison or I don't know, have a heart attack. I'm not sure. I don't know what his demise is going to be,
Starting point is 01:00:57 but he'll have his demise. The hamburger from heaven. The hamburger from heaven. Jesus, these people are sick. Dude, Trump was the first president that was cool with gay marriage, right? And he was an Obama speechwriter, that guy. We've talked. Keith Olbermann was, one can hope or whatever he said when.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Oh, right. Yeah. I mean, these people are, these people are the range. You know, for, I mean, we have talked about Joe Biden being very old, nearing the end of his life multiple times. That's right. Both those guys are very old. It's not out of the question to talk about either of them dying.
Starting point is 01:01:25 No, no, no. But none of us have said we hope and pray for a hamburger from heaven. That's not the way forward. I have repeatedly said I want Joe to comfortably sit in his wheelchair with a blanket on his lap in the sun and enjoy his days. Yeah, I keep saying he should be surrounded by his grandbabies. Even that little one in Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Well, for a time, Katie Porter was perceived as being kind of one of the future representatives of the Democrats. I mean, they're all just they're just criminals to their core they're not even good at lying but they made a career out of it they're reprehensible they're just really really bad human beings and i don't know how we've gotten to this situation other than to say that public education has made people so stupid that they continue to put these scumbags in power and no one ever even reflects on it it's amazing i also think that the power makes people scumbags the opportunity to to grab whatever you need and to be given things that you didn't know existed by corporations and stuff like though i don't even think we we should have humans in that role i think we're getting to the point
Starting point is 01:02:33 where that kind of thing can be automated maybe not all of it i go the other route and say that those roles just shouldn't exist how can you uncorrupt that system it's totally corrupt the whole way it's built is like a corrupted pyramid well this is this is why usually political establishments swing hard left to hard right is that once it gets this corrupted it requires a strongman dictator to come in and arrest and lock up all these all these criminals but then because he's holding that that ring of power so closed he's he's oftentimes corrupted himself uh this is this is gonna we're gonna find out a lot about bukele in the not too distant future with el salvador because what he did was basically miraculous, but he took extraordinary power to be able to do so. And everyone's happier.
Starting point is 01:03:10 They are for now, but will he relinquish it? Will he still honor his principles? I think he will. I don't know. I don't know. I think he will. The question is, though, it's not so easy to just say, will he give up his power? The question is, what if far left WEF sponsored dude comes up and says, vote for me? Should he then give up his power to them is what if far left wef sponsored dude comes up and says vote for me should he then give up his power to them the answer is no yeah i agree obviously but it's still can you can you have a stranglehold on power and maintain who you are there's very few people ron paul is is one of the only thomas massey are the type of guys that i think could actually
Starting point is 01:03:41 be that close to the ring and and not lose their soul it's extraordinarily rare have you guys heard this stuff like i just i hear these rumors i love the eschatology stuff about uh the red heifer we talked about the red heifer you guys know the red heifer so apparently there's like potentially a bunch of red red heifers that may explain that really quick for people that are listening all right so uh i don't know a whole lot about it only a little bit because people have brought it up on the show and we looked into it we talked about in the culture war uh at least you know it's a female i didn't even know claren and pivin were females well no clara's a guy francis you don't know francis fox pivin is no i i do i just i read the paper i didn't look into the weatherman i know all that stuff so uh
Starting point is 01:04:23 the red heifer is basically there's a prophecy that if there is a perfect red heifer with no blemish, they can sacrifice it at the third temple or whatever, which signifies like it will bring about the Messiah. And so there are Christians who believe it will return. It'll bring it's the return of Jesus. And there are Jews who believe it is the first coming of their Messiah. But that puts them at direct odds with Muslim nations because they would basically have to, what's, what's that mosque?
Starting point is 01:04:47 I don't know enough about it. Oh, the, the one. Yeah. Yes. They would have to, because they would have to take that position so they could sacrifice
Starting point is 01:04:54 the heifer. And then now we've got like, there's this solar eclipse coming and then a lunar eclipse. It's forming an X over a certain part of the country. A bunch of towns named Nevaeh. I read this. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Yeah. I didn't look at too much into it, but basically people are a certain part of the country. Yeah, a bunch of towns named Nevaeh. I read this thing and forgot about it. I didn't look too much into it, but basically people are like, yeah, the world's ending. I learned last week, and correct me if I'm wrong, anyone that studies Judaism, that the second coming of Christ is going to be either economically and peacefully, or it's going to be a warlord that does it through death and destruction and chaos.
Starting point is 01:05:20 So we get to pick right now. We're choosing our path. It's going to be one or the other. And it's either going to be a very wealthy guy that can unite the world, or it's going to be a killer that unites the world through military. I just got it. I got to take this opportunity to shout out Candace Owens. This lady has been going to absolute, going to the mat fighting,
Starting point is 01:05:35 fighting off the, the recent attacks that she's been dealing with. And, and I've been blown away at her courage that she's been willing to do so. She also was kind enough to have Dave Smith on the show and they had a fantastic conversation so shout out to canada and canis me i don't think we had that story pulled up at all canis was talking to a rabbi and he he he got upset and said that you're being um anti-semitic but the first thing he says is you're being misogynistic or um i mean uh he's just using buzzword he doesn't even know what
Starting point is 01:06:01 he's saying he says that she's being misogynistic that should be the headline i watched the rabbi told her she's being misogynistic i watched the entire 90 minute interview and it was it was spectacular having her actually play the content with of her having the conversation with tucker and then the guy doubling down right after she proved out i condemned hamas i said it right here and he's just like yeah but it was you know moral equivalency and yada yada yada and it was just like man i just you can't win you can't win but i think i think she did an incredible job at staying calm because i could not have sat there for 90 minutes having someone calling me an anti-semite over and over again especially on video back to where we're talking about eschatology i have this image
Starting point is 01:06:34 where we had uh annular solar eclipse in october and then total solar eclipse april 8th and the x is over texas that's cool that's very close to where uh all the bad stuff is happening right now that's it's it's basically right there isn't it yeah and this simulation that's uh what is it space x right or is it no eagle pass eagle pass yep it goes right over eagle pass and like like 20 different towns named nevaeh. I was like, what are the odds of this? How do you spell the Nevaeh? I think it's N-A-V-E-A-H. It's like heaven backwards. Yeah. I could be wrong on the spelling,
Starting point is 01:07:13 but I read a thread. It seemed like some schizo post. I have no idea if it's legitimate, but I always find this stuff very interesting, regardless of whether or not it's true. I'm finding more and more of the synergy of reality. It is very real. The internet itself is an aspect of this, our synergy.
Starting point is 01:07:28 We're coalescing and coordinating as the species. And it's like, yo, this, this, whatever you want to call it. Resonance is pretty cool. There's a lot of people that are in positions of power that do believe in this stuff. And I think that many of them are actually trying to drive us towards it. And that, that gives me great pause as a non-believer that you have people that have access to nuclear weapons that are like thinking, hey, we got to make this happen. It's like, good Lord, man. No, thank you.
Starting point is 01:07:50 That sounds demonic. I'm not very religious, but like you're going to try and force a prophecy. That sounds demonic. Those things are supposed to happen out of benevolence, I think. To me, it seems as if that would be against God's will. I would hope. Yeah, it's the will of man. They're forcing the will of man that's above god's yeah so i i don't know that's that's my you know non-believer
Starting point is 01:08:10 belief but we'll see yeah i just i just hope we don't i hope i don't live through revelations man come on don't do this we are in revelations right now that's what the internet is is kind of part of that tool of revealing uh they got to you too and you believe it now uh oh i don't i don't i mean i do believe regardless of a bible we're in a time of revealment right now uh well that's true definitely and i hope that that's the case uh speaking of revealing i gotta gotta deliver this to you this is from the demonic one herself josie the redhead libertarian uh is it a pie no she back she She painted you some artwork So she asked me to deliver that to you
Starting point is 01:08:49 Is it a painting of a pie? Probably Well Tim opens this I'll plug my Twitter Follow me, thank you Yeah Oh it's a picture of me. Thank you. Yeah. Oh, there's a picture of Mr. Bocas.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Yeah. Shout out to that guy. Legend. Oh, man. Legend. Oh, that's cute. He will live in eternity. Yep.
Starting point is 01:09:22 That was him. That guy was so unique as a cat. Well, thank you, Josie. Thanksie thanks josie what were we talking about oh yeah they're predicting trump's death and all that stuff so we were talking about the end of days i brought that up because people have brought it up to me because if there's one thing people pay attention to it's not politics it's loose eschatology and what i mean is it's not literal eschatology it's basically just being like i heard a rumor the world's ending right and then when you look at how crazy things have gotten and you've got this like solar eclipse and then solar eclipse making an x right over basically eagle pass
Starting point is 01:09:53 you know that's wild that's so weird i mean the sun is a magnetic being you know so is the earth and so are we but that's they're pretty well the moon you know it's it's phew that is so cool what is going on dude they're going to talk about this time in history for like a billion years then so are we, but that's pretty well the moon, you know, it's, it's, that is so cool. What is going on, dude? They're going to talk about this time in history for like a billion years. Oh, you, if it's,
Starting point is 01:10:10 if it's actually revelations, there's going to be no talk about what's going on right now. I don't think, I'm not sure the apocalypse. I think that comes out, we come out of it. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Well, those that are left behind, is that, is that the case? It's, it's, what is it? Hell on earth for eternity or whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Yeah. So I don't think they're going to be having any books written or conversations. If in fact, left behind is that is that the case it's what is it hell on earth right for eternity or yeah so i i don't think they're going to be having any books written or conversations if in fact that's what we're facing i'm just imagining like well we're all doing the show and then all of a sudden like seamus just starts lifting up from his seat and we're like wait a minute and then he's like oh i guess it's happening it just rips through the ceiling and then he's gone and we're like damn what are you gonna do God would never accept that alcoholic shots fired. Seamus.
Starting point is 01:10:49 We, I just, I'm just upholding Luke's legacy of talking crap to Seamus. I think ultimately it's about doing the work every day because we can talk about what's going to happen in the future. But all it is, is we are just living the present every moment. So the future is the moment next time.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Yeah. And we're, we've got to create the best version of it exactly and i think this has been you know the point that i've been trying to make with my twitter and my show liberty lockdown is like i'm trying to reach the libertarian audience that is already you know in terms of understanding the paradigm that we're existing under currently they're miles ahead of the average person because they've been very skeptical of of institutional power they've been very skeptical of the because they've been very skeptical of institutional power. They've been very skeptical of the media.
Starting point is 01:11:26 They've been very skeptical of the financial institutions. All of these people are very, very advanced when it comes to trying to become independent and function outside of the system. But I think that many of them still fall prey to not understanding the complexity of the power structure that rules over us. And this is why I think that the open borders issue has been such a dividing one. And I think this is why this shock jock type posting where it's like, arm the migrants, really doesn't do us justice as messengers because we still function under a democratic system. People are still going to have to vote for us. And if your perception is that there is any electoral pathway forward, which obviously they don't think so, because otherwise you wouldn't be posting something like that.
Starting point is 01:12:07 It is extraordinarily unpopular to say that the 30 million plus or the 5 million, 7 million that have come across during the Biden administration, many of which are gang members, I might add, not all, not even close to all, a very small fraction, but some of them are very violent people. And for the LP Louisiana to say, say arm them is just so detached from reality yeah what they need to focus on is yes immigrants can have guns if they're legally here that's okay you don't have to be a citizen of a gun you got to be legal you got to be here legally that's that's it well my my perception of this is this everyone has a god-given right to defense you have every right to defend yourself in the nation that you live in not everybody has a right to live here
Starting point is 01:12:43 so that's that's that's the dividing line i'm'm not saying that the Bill of Rights grants us our right to self-defense. That is God-given. However, not everybody is an American. Yeah, but still, if a dude's a Palestinian in the United States and he gets jumped, he has the right to defend himself. No, of course he does. That's a human right. That has nothing to do with the United States. Of course. But do you want people that came to this country illegally, that have criminal records from the nations they're coming from, to be armed legally in America? No, I don't.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Yeah, exactly. But now they're going to tell you that you're against the human right of self-defense. They'll try and do amnesty, and then they'll say, look, now they're all legal. Exactly. And I'll be like, oh God, I'm eating my own words. It's legal now. All you need to do is make it legal.
Starting point is 01:13:22 And then the electoral outcome becomes an impossibility. It's just complete uniparty rule for the rest of our existence that's this this that's this election so we got to resist uh the this this amnesty crap if donald trump does not win it is going to be democrat single party north korea speaking about like like just acknowledging reality okay like ron paul was saying the the he believes the american republic has lost uh november 22nd the assassination of john f kennedy so like trump really you think he's going to stand up against the empire like we know what happened all those roman emperors they just kept getting killed one after the other one after the other one after the other and like we're kind of at that stage i'm just trying to be real i don't want this to happen but i'm just saying i'm not going to
Starting point is 01:14:00 pretend like i didn't think it this is an interesting opportunity to talk about a metaphor that i've been thinking about nero was was actually the first Roman leader that was responsible for essentially manipulating currency. For over 300 years, I think it's the denarius, the silver coin, held 95% purity. And Nero was the first ruler that decided to melt it down and start to debase their currency. And in short order, every ruler did the same and it ended up being confetti. And I think that in my opinion, you could either point at Greenspan, you can point at
Starting point is 01:14:31 Bernanke. One of them was Nero. And I don't know which, I don't know who to actually hang that title on. Oh, it would have been Greenspan. Yeah, probably. But in terms of like actual just profligate spending, I mean, you could give it to Powell because it's totally out of control, even though he's been hiking interest rates, and I respect that. Regardless, the people that are in control of the money supply in this country have absolutely doomed our children to a future
Starting point is 01:14:53 that is much more destitute than our own, and I am never going to forgive them for it. Fortunately, people like me that understand this have already divested ourselves from the US dollar to a large extent. It's just not very easy, and it doesn't bode well for a functioning civilization moving forward let's uh let's jump to this clip from fox news about kevin o'leary and talk about what's going on in new york because we've been ragging on new york all day let's listen but more importantly the message about the american brand you think about america the reason this is the number one economy on earth is that we have laws and we have due process and we have property rights. It attracts foreign capital from all around the world. All of that is being shaken to the core here.
Starting point is 01:15:34 The concept of seizing assets in 30 days on a bond number that's never been issued. No insurance bond companies ever issued anything near this. so there was no chance it was going to happen and only giving 30 days notice in time that's a really bad message and I think New Yorkers should think well past Trump whether he's president or not or whether this attorneys general is gone in four years or not it's irrelevant this is case setting against the American brand. The most stable country on Earth, anywhere, to put capital to work over a long period
Starting point is 01:16:11 of time, particularly in real estate, is the United States of America. Let's break down real quick what he just said. This is about the fraud case against Donald Trump. A $454 million bond, which now is up to like $500 and something, has never been issued it's an absurd number no one has that kind of cash that was the intent the entire point was to bankrupt
Starting point is 01:16:32 donald trump the judge issued a summary judgment there was no trial the judge said i hereby declare trump committed fraud now we're going to determine how much you owe us that's what happened trump had no trial it's kangaroo kangaroo they gave him 30 days to come up with half a billion dollars which doesn't exist like people don't have that cash laying around no one does or they're going to take his properties from him this is new york full-fledged communist takeover i mean it's not it's not dissimilar to what we're witnessing in Brazil either with either Lula or Bolsonaro. Like, we are now in the era of arresting our political enemies and putting them away or finding ways to make their lives so miserable. Bolsonaro just got indicted for falsifying his own COVID vaccine card. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Wow. Yes. Isn't that ridiculous? He and his daughter both did. They didn't want to take the COVID vax. The government was, like, forcing everybody to take it. And so Bolsonaro was like, well, we're not going to do it and so he falsified his own record so that he could like leave the country and do stuff but this well that's that's the reality of where we go that's what we have next uh well what we have now is quite literally yeah like look Like, look, in these communist countries, do people really think that it was like the premier and the dictator just went, for no reason, I'm going to steal your building.
Starting point is 01:17:55 No, it's for your own safety. No, no. It's always for your own good. This man has been accused of a crime. He has been hereby accused of this crime one, two, three, and four. He must go to jail. What say you all? All right.
Starting point is 01:18:05 To jail with him. They don't just walk up and say, your building is now mine. That's simplistic. They always try to justify it to maintain plausible control, like plausible governance. No, no. We are here to we are here to enforce the law and the safety of the people. Kevin O'Leary's on CNN and they had a Washington Post woman who's smirking the whole time like it's to protect the market. And Kevin's going, the market is destroyed by this.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Nobody wants to invest in New York now. He doesn't. And he's hungry. There's no market anymore. But these communists are just laughing, being like, good, we don't like it. Well, and you even had Kathy Hochul addressing the concerns that New York business owners would be concerned by this and would, you know, essentially divest from New York. And she basically came out and said, no, we're just doing this to Donald Trump. Yeah, that's what she said. It's just like what Katie Porter said. the entire democratic platform is set up to oppose donald trump not to oppose his policies
Starting point is 01:19:05 not to oppose his ideas not to oppose the republican party not to oppose you know different plans for the united states or a different future than the one she envisions their entire party she said is set up to oppose donald trump and that's what they're doing in new york as well and that's what they're going to do they're trying to do it in georgia you know they were trying to set this up against trump in colorado um yeah that's where we are i think if anyone continues to do business in new york specifically in real estate i think they're out of their mind you know this is exactly why o'leary is so activated i would imagine he never voted for trump he's probably not a trump supporter but he has tens of millions of dollars of real estate that exists within new york hundreds
Starting point is 01:19:44 yeah well he's probably like, I got to get out. I got to get out. What do I do? And he can't just divest. Exactly. It's too difficult. And you know why he can't divest is because everyone all over the world who has forever looked at America as this bastion of security and safety when it came to investing is now
Starting point is 01:19:57 looking at America and saying, this is a politically weaponized system. And if I deploy capital here, and this is actually ties into- Like Venezuela. This ties into my oppositionuela this this ties into my opposition to your perspective on the tiktok bill too in that if you start to weaponize uh the government against you know alleged foreign enemy nations which they just listed off those four nations well that that dries up foreign investor capital because they realize that we're now we're now in an activated uh you know kind of militarized financial system
Starting point is 01:20:26 that's a bit extreme that's true uh if you know it's not yes it is if you're if how many how many people live in china and invest in america germany is not concerned that they will be named by congress and a bill is an enemy of the united states okay what about the 1.5 billion people that that work and create in china china was in a codified bill listed as an adversary of the united states right so if they chose to invest with that being the case they made that decision which proves your what you're saying is not correct well because it hasn't gotten to as bad as it can possibly get but it once you once you once you start to ban their products outright it's gonna it's gonna give investors pause when it comes to investing chinese chinese
Starting point is 01:21:05 investors in american real estate is we don't astronomical and we'd want them to go away well if that's if that's your perspective but we don't want china to own our economy the craziest thing about the tiktok bill is that you have people defending it by saying there are people there are thousands of people who run their businesses on tiktok we can't we can't shut it down and i'm like wow the chinese communist party has control over a portion of a large portion of american business wow that now i'm even more in favor of this divestment bill they should not have that power see that that's that's i think a little bit unfair framing given the libertarians party party's position is that we should allow our foreign adversaries to have control over our market our real estate then the libertarian party is not a serious you got to beat
Starting point is 01:21:49 them at their own game free market trading i am i that's been a libertarian you have to get them to defeat themselves because if we let the president decide at will who's the enemy and ban their products well that's what that bill does it does not yeah i don't care if you don't like the bill i don't care if you don't like no it doesn't read section i read the whole thing we went over the whole thing i don't care if you don't like the bill would you allow let me finish you're allowed to say that government weaponizes bills and will misconstrue them all of that is true for every single bill imaginable but what i am sick and tired of is everyone lying about what is in the bill i understand so we we went over a bill in congress that would give an unelected bureaucrat the right to ban farms ain't nobody talking about that one it would allow
Starting point is 01:22:29 them to send an inspector to any farm and say you are no longer allowed to produce milk ain't nobody talking about that one terrifying well it is and so why is everyone so obsessed with tiktok yeah and the point with the tiktok bill is if you are concerned about a bill that would allow the president to declare that one of four enemy nations hasn't has a financial interest in a social media app that has more than one million users where users are able to log into both share and view content it is a declared national security threat to congress and has been adjudicated in dc if if if if you're going to say all of that and say and i think that's a bad idea say okay but if we're talking about my i'll just i'll say again my issue with it
Starting point is 01:23:13 is that people keep lying about what's in the bill because they're trying to win a political argument yeah instead of just coming out and saying the bill would do these things it is possible the president will say something like uh this guy igor has a financial investment uh of 20 percent in truth social it was bought on the public market he has to sell that that's the first thing that happens that's it it's a divestiture bill banning is only the enforcement action against a company that doesn't divest right from from a from one of four foreign adversaries i i agree with your your description of it the the issue that i have and i i align myself with david sack's analysis on this and i forget exactly the the clause the name of the bill why is it so hard to find this is freakish why is it a really long name it's like i don't remember federal it's hr 7521 or
Starting point is 01:24:03 something but the point he was making is the same one that ian was bringing up that the the description of under i think it was under the control hr 7521 under the writer under the control of is just too broad i do not trust i mean this is what i find fascinating you you're as big a skeptic of the biden administration as anybody you understand that they've weaponized the political system against donald trump and political dissidents all across this country i am not interested in empowering these people further and so agreed stop passing any bill whatsoever sure and and and stop and and i i call on thomas massey to stop putting out of context snippets i call on rand paul to issue a correction that bite dance is a chinese-owned company and he got that wrong he got that wrong and i call on everyone
Starting point is 01:24:44 else to stop. I call on Tucker Carlson to retract his statement that this bill would allow Joe Biden to ban any news website that opposes him. That is factually false. Well, it... 100% false. It could not do this. In its current existence, yes.
Starting point is 01:24:57 It could not do that. Yeah. There's no reason to say those things. Please oppose the bill. Tell me why you oppose the bill. Right. And I'll say you're entitled to oppose it. Why? Look, my problem with the corporate press and the democrats is they lie about everything
Starting point is 01:25:08 so if thomas massey comes out and cuts context if rand paul is wrong and tucker carlson is wrong i'm gonna say these people are wrong yeah no i think that's totally fair i think that the the argument that the thomas massey's and the justin amash and the uh you know rand paul's of the world are making including ron paul he came out against it too, including myself, Dave Smith, a whole list of people, is that we are essentially shell-shocked from the power that the federal government has accumulated through periods of crisis without demonstrable evidence of the claim. I have not seen, and I'll ask you just blunt bluntly have you seen any definitive evidence that the ccp is actually dictating the algorithm when it comes to tiktok because because marco rubio and all these
Starting point is 01:25:50 other neocon scumbags pretend as if they've seen it pretend as if they have it that they have a board china the ccp has a board member on it has a board member yes that's right yes can is that that's evidence enough to you that means they built the yes can i can i foia the chinese intelligence agencies to figure out their communication with tiktok the answer is obviously no well if they're doing business in america maybe you can i don't know no you can't but i can foia the fbi the nsa the cia it doesn't mean i'm gonna win but the very least we did get through foia proof that intelligence agencies were in active communication with our social media and we were able to take some action against them to which it is currently going to the supreme court that is a very very challenging and difficult position for american people to challenge these
Starting point is 01:26:33 massive multinational corporations headquartered in the united states massive yeah and we still at least have the ability to foyer quests of our intelligence agencies and figure out these things are going on. Right now, we do not have that with TikTok and the CCP. We can't even begin to ask them what degree of control. And it's already been speculated the reason they won't sell is because they want control of the algorithm and they don't want to reveal what it is. Unfortunately for us i have no intention of believing the communists have this beautiful algorithm that is totally neutral and just shows kids what they like no no algorithms are neutral i mean you would okay you're right
Starting point is 01:27:16 there are no neutral algorithms but if you don't show it it's not neutral china's not going to release the algorithm under no circumstances because it is a weapon of war now check this out or it's just the most advanced algorithm in the world look let's just consider for a second that that mnuchin the the treasury uh i think it was the treasury secretary under donald trump he has now gone into uh private practice he has his hedge fund and he is he is arranging to acquire tiktok the domestic version of it yep i i think that that is absolutely reprehensible if you believe it's a weapon of war, then you should want it abolished entirely, correct? You think we... See, this is the difference between revolutionaries and reformers.
Starting point is 01:27:51 I think it's better that Amazon owns TikTok than the CCP, and Amazon is bad. Correct. But you think it's better the communists own this massive platform with U.S. businesses and our children on it? That's insane. Well, my perception my perception is that the the gravest threat to me and my family is not the ccp is the united states federal government right so i'll say i'll say it again we have we have the ability to take action
Starting point is 01:28:17 against the u.s government we have actually won tremendously when it comes to say second amendment rights we have nothing to go against the ccp and if they control any amount of our economy through real estate farmland or tiktok if they're able to influence our youth as yuri bezmanov warned us about we have to take action to prevent that talk to me about this bill for a second because we haven't really gone too deep i want to section 2g is the definitions this is where i was like oh god my mind started to get twisted reading what the bill actually means the death always go to the definitions when you're reading bills because they'll tell you oh that word we used it means this so control the term someone that's controlled something that's controlled by a foreign
Starting point is 01:28:55 adversary see their one 2g section okay so let me tell you controlled by a foreign adversary specifically in the definitions refers to another bill where this is codified by congress as china russia north korea and iran so any other as soon bill where this is codified by congress as china russia north korea and iran so any other as soon as a country becomes codified then that will become part of this if congress comes together and declares under that specific subsection an amendment that would add or remove it would change these things yeah that's dangerous because if someone has a network that is messing with us, then Congress might be like, well, they're definitely an enemy. I mean, the counter argument is exactly this.
Starting point is 01:29:27 You've already had an outright lie that Donald Trump was being controlled by Vladimir Putin. Is it so far-fetched? What was the legal result of that investigation? Well, after seven years? I mean, you could still, in the interim, have Elon Musk forced to divest of X. seven years i mean so so still we you know you could still in the interim have have elon musk
Starting point is 01:29:45 forced to divest of of x yeah the argument you're making is not about this bill it is about all bills that pass through will grant power that will be used in ways it wasn't intended to be used i completely agree with that well but i'm also saying the bill that the exact language of this on its structure yes not on general government corruption i well i am but i mean i'm opposing it on the structure in that it says right there that control control is too broad or or a subject to the direction or this is the direct not the control the direction or direction a foreign person that is domiciled in what did they say about donald trump they said that he was being controlled or directed he was being foisted upon us because of a hundred thousand dollars with ads on Facebook.
Starting point is 01:30:25 They could immediately ban Truth Social if this goes through. No, they can't. Because of Trump's... How many users does Truth Social have? Not many, but... To be honest, I don't know. Good point. Well, it needs to have at least a million.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Well, it's probably got a million. A million active users. It's probably got a million. Active daily? It doesn't say active. That's a bad bill. It should say daily, monthly. These people do not not know what they're doing this is my problem with the bill no one is reading any bills the hot shot buzzword of the week comes up and all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:30:56 i got people on the right posting nonsense about the bill they didn't read and ignoring all the other bills that are worse one bill that's currently going through Congress would give Joe Biden the right to stop oil exports and control oil. And you're like, but social media. And I'm like, dude, it's fine if you don't like the bill. But I am. Be honest about it. I agree. I am.
Starting point is 01:31:17 I am. I am sick of everyone hounding and screaming rabble, rabble, rabble. And I'm like, guys, all bills this all of them do this yeah all of them right and it's a problem so there is no way there is literally no way you are going to craft this bill in the way that's going to satisfy anyone this is social has a roughly 2 million monthly active users as of march 23 so we've already gone over this 50 billion times i don't want to keep rehashing the same the same hypotheticals of what would happen. But let's stop.
Starting point is 01:31:47 First of all, it's not a ban bill. The bill does not allow you to ban. As an enforcement action after 165 days and a refusal to divest, the enforcement action is companies in the United States cannot host you. Which means you can still distribute and market your product in any way you want it's not banned but wait however who's gonna host it russia or china but on what what website what are you talking about russia has servers in fact many people use chinese servers to host their american websites all the time yeah but i mean are you using verizon to tap into it to download it? That's not hosting. Who's your band?
Starting point is 01:32:25 Okay. So if TikTok does not divest, after 165 days, they can begin enforcement action. If ByteDance doesn't divest, right? Right. If TikTok doesn't say ByteDance, you're out. Yeah. What ends up happening then is the App Store on Apple removes it and the Google Play Store removes it. American servers must stop hosting it right to be hosted in canada can be hosted in the bahamas can be hosted in venezuela can be hosted
Starting point is 01:32:50 in any other country which we do have access to by typing in words into a browser many websites you go to are actually not even hosted in the united states by typing in words if you want to use tiktok at that point on your android you need only go to the TikTok.us and download the APK file and click install. It can't ban it. You can't ban the internet. So at first, when Thomas Massey posted saying it could ban websites, I went, whoa, that's crazy. That would shut down VPNs. That would shut down Telegram. So I pulled the bill up and read it. I went, oh, Thomas Massey has removed critical context that explains that's not what's going to do it would penalize american businesses for working with an adversary of the united states on specifically a social media website named as
Starting point is 01:33:33 tiktok or another platform with at least a million users where users can log in and share content specifically social media that has refused to defest from one of from an interest in one of four countries and failing to file a for adjudication within 165 days right so there is this long and circuitous chain by which joe biden could say twitter's a national security threat here's my report as to why congress can review it he says elon musk is secretly working for iran that is insane i'd say it's not more like and it's not going to happen well he would have to shut down spacex and tesla if that was the case yeah well i think this is the whole reason elon hasn't been taken to the mat already is because
Starting point is 01:34:16 he he works so much with the government that it would be a real real issue for them if we come to the point in this country where joe biden comes out and says elon musk's companies are forfeit and we are seizing them beyond what we're already seeing with trump as like trump i think we're off the precipice with new york but if the federal government makes those moves you have a lot more to worry about than tiktok or x i know but i'm just trying to slow the slow the bleed here i mean mean, here's my bigger concern too, is that giving the government the power to, this is kind of playing into their misinformation narrative that they've been pushing for the past three years very harshly.
Starting point is 01:34:56 Also the actions that were taken by AWS as well as the Apple Play Store, Google, all that, when it came to Parler. It was already kind of a shot across the um when it came to parlor like this was it was already kind of a shot across the bow when it came to trying to shut down social media that that goes against the the corporate narrative in a time when they don't have the control they had control of twitter before elon they had control of facebook and instagram and across the board but they they came very aggressively you want to know you want to know what the best part of this bill is my favorite part is definitions uh section two, section B, which says the term covered company does not include an entity that operates a website, desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application whose primary purpose is to allow users to post product reviews, business reviews, travel information, and reviews. In which case, the bill could only cover TikTok.
Starting point is 01:35:42 Well, it could do like Amazon. How could it ban Amazon? I mean, as far as I know, it's got a social network of over a million monthly active users. And a primary function is reviews? No, no, it can't. It does not include ones that do reviews, business reviews, or travel. That's correct. So commerce is not-
Starting point is 01:36:04 They're exempt from it all. Yeah, but commerce is not exempt from it websites that particularly do commerce are not exactly you have to have a million users allow users to post content and share content and view content it has to be uh have a stated interest between from one of four countries and it can't be a website where you are posting product reviews business reviews travel information and reviews well who's who's uh massy massy brought up this point because he's saying this is evidence that where you are posting product reviews, business reviews, travel information, and reviews. Massey brought up this point because he's saying this is evidence that it is not specifically targeted towards TikTok. No, that's evidence that it is.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Because you had a lobbyist for some corporate, I don't know, Travelocity or whoever it was, that said, we're concerned about what they're going to do to us, so we need to have a carve-out to make sure that we're safe. You tell me why I was there. x need do is say post your travel reviews no no only if it's their primary purpose is to allow primary exactly that's going to go to the supreme court after the ban already happens and no not after the ban happens it gets stayed the the issue i take with this is people are desperately trying to find i mean any excuse to find primary man it's in in the definition they use the word primary it is not it is not dispositive you you can't you can't say because i can make a misconstrued argument on language
Starting point is 01:37:09 therefore it will happen if it didn't say primary i'd be a little more comfortable but it specifies what bothers me with this film website is that everyone's basically nitpicking every word to claim things the bill doesn't say you have to man the patriot act and that's the trauma there's the ptsd yeah it's not it's not ptsd it's a reason it's real trauma there is a bill right now that gives biden control of like oil imports and experts exports that bill i can't we we last night on the members only i started pulling up a whole bunch of bills i'm like here's one that allows an unelected bureaucrat to inspect farms and it could ban their food saying it's not human consumption it's not not not right for human
Starting point is 01:37:43 consumption so this is actually happening right now there There's a, there's a case going through, I think the Supreme court where a farmer they're shutting down his milk production. And everyone's just like, but if you look here, this word means that they're going to be, yes, look, any bill, all bills, they can do whatever they want. But for some reason, people are desperately like China should have control of our farmland, our real estate and our commerce, our digital commerce. Uh, Tik TOok is known to be a social media commerce website it is it is described that way this is the raw milk guy i remember that tiktok is described as a as a social commerce platform it's it's it's people run businesses they sell things
Starting point is 01:38:17 they're snippet advertisements china should have full control of that and they should be deciding what our kids get to see and i'm like this is insane this should not be the case but i think that's a bit of a straw man of my position at least i'm not i can't speak for everybody but my my my big issue is that you and i know as people who make our living on the internet how absolutely vital it is that we defend free discussion free debate free speech on the internet and and i am not interested in offering them additional power when it comes to this arena that's my concern it i'm not i don't i'm not even on tiktok i don't even use it i don't care i think this is a tribalist argument that has no logic like the idea that you would rather fight the ccp who you have no legal standing against versus our government where you have the constitution and you have the supreme court who has more power over you
Starting point is 01:39:02 the ccp or your own government And this is what we are preventing. Tick tock, giving the CCP control over commerce on top of it's bad enough. They're buying farmland. It's bad enough. They're buying real estate. They're pricing out American working class people from the market. And we've been screaming about this for years. And now that we know for a fact that China through tick tock is gaining a major foothold in digital commerce and influence
Starting point is 01:39:25 peddling to our youth, all of a sudden, it's not an issue anymore. Well, let's inverse that because the whole reason that so many entrepreneurs rely on TikTok is because your government decided to lock them down and shut down their businesses in 2020, which now you have so many entrepreneurs that are hanging on by a thread. Non sequitur. That's not a non sequitur. We're talking about- You're pointing the finger at the ccp i'm saying that the reason that tiktok became so powerful is because your government is communist that's the truth and we have the constitution and the
Starting point is 01:39:54 supreme court and we have our best efforts through the electoral process state courts etc to challenge all of that and we've had major successes the court of public opinion as well some with tiktok you have nothing we need to free its code man that's what we need to do and and that's exactly what the point of the bill is this just makes them sell when we when when it became clear that the democrats were panicking over the pro-palestine content on tiktok a bunch of israeli uh pro-israel sponsorrael donors contacted Democrats and said it must be banned. Right. All of a sudden, Israel, I'm sorry, all of a sudden, Democrats got on board with the
Starting point is 01:40:31 Republicans position on this. Correct. TikTok then sent out a push notification to all American users saying, do not let them do this. And then these people started spamming congressional offices saying, don't ban our app. China, this Chinese owned app directed American youth to change the laws in our country. And one, they just, they played this on Fox earlier today. One representative got a death threat from someone saying that they would come and kill them if they voted on this one. Now, here's what I'm seeing.
Starting point is 01:41:04 They're absolutely posting content that is manipulating young people. Yuri Bezmenov warned us about this. We should not tolerate it. They have a foothold in one of the largest digital commerce platforms, and it's here in the United States, and we don't know what they're doing. And they have directed American citizens to change laws already using this app. is a weapon i understand facebook is is evil i think they're awful face cia book we've called it for 10 years x is only okay now that elon's got it even they're not great right youtube is not good at all rumble is probably the best i would rather i would rather mark zuckerberg own tiktok than the ccp well i mean mark zuckerberg and zuckerbucks he's responsible for
Starting point is 01:41:47 biden being the president united states and he who manipulated our government more and now you've got a bunch of a bunch of states are backing away from that after being exposed not that it's a good it's not like we won or anything but i can tell you this we can put mark zuckerberg in prison if we want to not like it's easy but maybe maybe in a rare you know shoot to the moon and maybe you'll hit the stars donald trump gets elected immediately investigates the interference in the election that zuckerberg with zuckerbucks put in and then says massive penalty fines you're in trouble now yeah you cannot do that with the ccp that that's all true but it's also true that that i think that parents ought to be controlling their kids' intake of this content.
Starting point is 01:42:27 And I think that— That's not an argument to what we're talking about. Yes, it is. It doesn't— You're saying it's a weapon that's targeted towards children. I'm saying conservative parents who talk about personal— I said they control commerce. No, you also said that it's controlling kids' minds.
Starting point is 01:42:38 And so it is—I think it is a non sequitur to say, yes, but this one thing I will attack. No, no, no. The point is the CCP has control in multiple facets of our culture and economy and politics right now. I don't care about each and every one. You can argue parents who do a better job. You're right. They should.
Starting point is 01:42:53 It doesn't change the fact that they have a massive foothold in our farmland, in our real estate, in our digital media, digital commerce. And at the very least, we can all complain about the CIA, the NSA, the FBI, national security letters and all of that stuff. But we can't do anything about the CCP controlled the NSA, the FBI, national security letters, and all of that stuff, but we can't do anything about the CCP-controlled app. We have to take action. Here's the truth of the situation, though. We are incredibly reliant on China's support at this point. They own a huge percentage of our debt. They own a huge percentage of our real estate. They have ultimately bolstered our economy when we would otherwise probably be
Starting point is 01:43:21 in a depression. And for the the record they are equally reliant on us because we are the buyers of everything they produce so look i'm not i'm not i'm not saying that you're wrong i'm saying that you need to consider the consequences of the plan that you're taking on you are you're opting to make them an enemy nation and try and divest us when we are very intertwined and also ron paul has has advocated with the democrats on this one no hear me out we want we want free trade. That's not fair. Let's not try and put me into some camp
Starting point is 01:43:48 because we disagree on one topic. What argument do you have for China is destroying us, let's just give in? Look, if the libertarian position is- If your argument is that China is destroying us, that is an argument that needs to be made with evidence. Okay, so how about the deal that we opened up starting with Nixon, so we can get trade
Starting point is 01:44:05 and we think that we're going to bring american trade to china and they're going to normalize and become like us and they do the inverse right we've got the stealing of intellectual property for decades we have incessant cyber attacks going on since the the invention of the internet we have been under relentless attack spying we've got gain of function research we caught in multiple airports chinese national smuggling viruses out of bsl out of bsl4 through through our airports unsecure yeah they've been doing these things and there's so much more they're sending fentanyl from the southern border into our country as revenge for the opium wars as i believe ian said several times they are sending designer drugs over the internet and through silk road to our young people. They're tainting it with fentanyl. So they're dying. We know we're an active conflict.
Starting point is 01:44:48 They want to take Taiwan. They're mad at us. We've got an alliance now with Australia sending warships. There is a fear that the economic expansion of China will lead to a Thucydides trap type situation, which could invoke World War Three. Now, what we could do is say maybe perhaps is the point at which we stop allowing China to buy up our land, buy up our politicians. That was the Thousand Towns Project, where they're paying professors to sell our research from our tax dollars to their country. It needs to stop. And all of a sudden, TikTok says push notification to all our users. And all these people immediately come out like zombies and go, we like the China
Starting point is 01:45:25 app now, it would be wrong to ban China from buying America. And I'm like, are you nuts? We have been complaining about China buying up our farmland and our real estate. We've been complaining about the drugs they're sending. TikTok is effectively their digital drug against us. And I agree. Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, they're all bad and they do similar things. At the very least, I can file a FOIA request against our government and chip away at the block on this one. We should not be allowing China to do any of this stuff.
Starting point is 01:45:54 And for some reason, TikTok decides. I'll tell you my theory. When the Republicans made these moves to ban TikTok under Donald Trump and everyone agreed, TikTok's smartest play at that point, which I'll just say hypothetically maybe happened. I think it's probably what happened. I don't know for sure.
Starting point is 01:46:11 They immediately bolster specific right wing accounts on the platform and give them followers so that they can build an addiction among Trump supporters and libertarians so that when it finally came down to it, because they knew they were being threatened, you would get a wave of younger right-leaning people being like, no, no, no, no, no. We can't ban TikTok. Why? I have followers on TikTok. I use the platform. It's totally fine.
Starting point is 01:46:34 We're now seeing these people, I'm not going to name them, posting screenshots of the front page of TikTok being like, there's no indoctrination here. What are you talking about? And I'm like, it's a major digital commerce platform. I don't care if it's the farmland. I don't care if it's fentanyl. I don't care if it's TikTok. We cannot allow China to, they're communists. And I'm so over this. We'll go to
Starting point is 01:46:54 super chats right now because we're way late. But it is remarkable to me that we're at this point now where we are banging our fists on the table being like the communist takeover is insane. They're seizing property. And you've got the active Chinese Communist Party courting our politicians. You've got people like Trudeau in Canada saying they wish they were like the Chinese Communist Party, like Xi Jinping. And all of a sudden, because of Israel, only because of Israel, Democrats and Republicans have decided TikTok's gone too far. And I'm like, I'll take what I can get, I guess.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Or we can now all of a sudden on this issue decide we are all staunch free market libertarians that allow foreign adversaries that are destroying and attacking our country to operate one of the largest influence platforms in our nation and take control of the minds of our youth, whether that may be socialist or otherwise. I say no to that. Yeah, I think the better way would be to force them to free their software code to operate in the States as opposed to give the president more power and authority over social media is my personal take. Hopefully it'll go. I allowed for Tim's full.
Starting point is 01:47:54 We got to go to super chats. We're 17 minutes past. You got a 30, 10 second. Smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends and head over to Timcast.com. We'll have that uncensored show coming up in 13 minutes. But let's read what you got.int torres says howdy people tim i got my first and second bag of cast brew last night focus with bocus and wake up with roberto jr uh we it's it's uh mr
Starting point is 01:48:16 bocus pumpkin spice experience focus with mr bocus we have not yet made but i think it's going to be called the legend of mr bocus yeah clint says phil if you're there go to the gym if phil isn't there but watching go to the gym if phil isn't watching can someone kindly tell him to go to the gym go to gym phil and then play hell divers 2 with me later he had a personal trainer we did some lifting today and i lifted to the point of failure and then uh once we were wrapping up with like the cool down warm-ups or the cool down exercises not warm-ups he was like okay now we're gonna do some push-ups and i couldn't do a single push-up at that point i was like it's not proud of you man i'm proud of you dude jack tim pool is coming to town we did knee ups instead i was like yeah so instead of
Starting point is 01:48:53 instead of going on your toes when you do a push-up you go on your knees yeah and it was it was wild he was like come on come on four and i'm like dude my arms are jelly. We like, I was lifting 35 pound weights. It was, we did 12, 15, 25, 35. And then we went again with like different sets. I had bought some two pound weights and I managed to injure myself doing that. Two pound weights? We got three pound weights. Drink colloidal gold.
Starting point is 01:49:19 All right, let's grab some more super chats. What is this? I see this one. Where did it go? Let's see. Ty taibo says if the squatters issue and property rights issue wasn't fixed before trump is elected it's going to be a bloodbath bloodbath we sold a hundred of those shirts by the way were you guys i heard you talking about indoctrination or not indoctrinating but inoculating your friends and family against
Starting point is 01:49:39 the news you said that yeah have you guys been doing that have you been calling your friends and loved ones and telling them about the story before it as it's breaking so that they know when they see the manipulation in real time they're like oh now i know what you're talking but you don't tell them about the story you say hey look at look at this video real quick it's 20 seconds long and then you play it for them so they hear everything and you go just wanted you to hear that well the the best thing about being a creator in this space now is that my mom my dad my stepdad they all listen to liberty lockdown they all call me and they go oh my god i was i was totally on board with xyz until i listened to your show and i and i run clips on my show to try and dismantle the the narrative in real time and it's been valuable to them and i know thousands of people are listening and they
Starting point is 01:50:19 they all say the same so it's like this is what we're that's what i'm in this fight for exactly is i want people to know the truth. No, I didn't call anybody and talk to anybody about it. Nope. Cat4203 says, I'm part of a community parent network. I just did training today. That was the most racist thing I've ever seen. Goal number one was how to eliminate racism in early childhood development.
Starting point is 01:50:41 Did you see there was like a hiring thing? And it's, I forgot what it was, but someone tweeted it. It was maybe it was a TikTok. It said like requirements BIPOC. Yeah. Like one of the requirements is that you can't be white is that you can't be white yeah charlie was charlie was trying to connect the i think his name's charlie i've been blanking uh he was trying to uh find the source file on that and he thinks that it may not be true so i don't know well starting next year washington state public schools are going to be required to teach LGBTQ history. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:51:09 Wow. Yeah. So if you're wondering why American schoolchildren are doing so poorly in school, it's because they are learning trash and not anything worthwhile. And have been for quite some time. This is what I discovered when I pulled my son out of school to homeschool him, which I got to say, parents who've been homeschooling this whole time, you guys are heroes. I can really only handle it for just the term. Jason Dixon. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:51:30 Jason Dixon says, Tim crying, cops are being gay and doing crimes again. I guess. I don't know what that means. A funny superhero. Well, the leftists slogan, be gay, do crime. Oh, I'm not really familiar with that one. Really? Yeah, that's a big, big one.
Starting point is 01:51:44 And it really does exemplify their plan for this country. Yeah, be gay and do crime. That's what they want. And then I love it because people are like, and then George Santos shows up and they're like, not like that. He wants to come on the show, by the way. We just got to reach out to him.
Starting point is 01:51:58 He's so endearing for such a scumbag. Santos should come on the show. I don't know. I think he's a culture war guest. Yeah. But maybe actually no he could probably come on here and comment on the news that's that's true we the reason one of the reasons we launched the culture war subscribe over at tenant media is uh because there are some guests
Starting point is 01:52:14 that are like debate guests and specialists that don't comment on news right so we've had we've had people be like i get emails and they'll be like, you know, so-and-so wants to come on the show. And I was like, what does this person do? And they're like, he's an evolutionary biologist. And I was like, really cool. Was it Colin? Would he like to talk about Joe Biden's election chances? Right.
Starting point is 01:52:35 And they're like, well, I mean, and I'm like, this is a topical news show. And we have a variety of news commentary personalities and individuals like musicians and those who are active in political commentary but the culture war is available for those conversations that's how we did it i'd like to get brett weinstein on yeah but like uh who did you he can talk about right yeah but colin wright's been on the show yeah but he is a a commentator on the news and big cultural issues you said evolutionary biologists and I was like, the only evolutionary biologist I know is Colin Wright. And then, well, Brett Weinstein.
Starting point is 01:53:08 Right. And he's also, he does commentary on the news. So it's like, you can be a mechanic and comment on the news and we'll say, yeah, absolutely,
Starting point is 01:53:16 come talk on the show. It was his interview with Tucker Carlson a few months ago that sent me down the rabbit hole of trying to figure out what the hell was going on with the Darien Gap
Starting point is 01:53:22 and everything else. And that's when I did the deep dive to figure out about how the United Nations was funding the Darien Gap and everything else. And that's when I did the deep dive to figure out about how the United Nations was funding the immigration crisis. And it's like, this goes so deep and most people are like super surface level analysis on this. And I just hope that
Starting point is 01:53:35 if anything, people will continue to do their own research and go deeper to figure out why this is happening. Why is it 10x the historical averages? All right. Hal says, slavery was legal in the USA during the Civil War. It is still legal after due process. Slavery and racism were not only in the South. The North loved profiting from it and didn't end it until later.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Well, technically, they didn't end it. That's a good point. You know, Kanye West got roasted for this when he said that we should repeal the 13th Amendment. And they were all like, what? You want to bring slavery back? And he's like, no, that's the amendment that allows slavery after due process you commit a crime they can make you a slave that's crazy they got they kamala harris got people fighting wildfires in california for a dollar an hour yeah she's a bad person she's a very bad person second in command unbelievable
Starting point is 01:54:22 all right fix the border my rant earlier about the reprehensible people that rule over her or rule over us she's like the one that comes to mind right away i'm like how how is she this close to the throne kcb says clint full prisons in a free country is not unjust what is unjust is that criminals know that their victims fear prison more than they do and will not protect themselves or others as a result well if you're going to consider yourself the land of the free and you've got more people per capita than uh almost every other nation on earth that's pretty that's pretty over the top do with that information what you will okay let's grab some more super jets uh redheaded libertarian says i will bring you pie soon. Make it gluten-free.
Starting point is 01:55:05 I have cut the gluten out. Use rice flour. Ooh, yeah. Almond flour is good too. It's a little sweet. Rice flour is the best. Coconut flour. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:55:12 Try it. You take rice flour, one part rice flour, one part water. You microwave it. It's done. That's crazy. Rice is awesome. What do you mean it's done? It's cooked.
Starting point is 01:55:20 It's done doing what? It's food. What, do you just eat the flour and water? Well, you can do whatever you want. It's mochi. So you can make stuff with it. the flour and water? Well, you can do whatever you want. It's mochi. So you can make stuff with it. If you put sugar in it, you can make it spongier. But what I've been doing is I've just, because I don't want to eat bread, I just one part
Starting point is 01:55:33 flour, water, microwave it, butter and jam. You know what I like about rice as opposed to a lot of foods that clump? If you put a little bit of water into rice and cook it, it spreads out evenly amongst all the rice. If you put a lot in, it spreads out evenly among all the rice. Like it's got its own communication. Do you have a good rice cooker? I think so.
Starting point is 01:55:50 This is a good one. Jessica Rabbit says, why aren't banks lobbying for stricter squatter laws? Most of vacant properties are theirs. That's a really good point. That's why I'm really excited for this. Cause like when the, when the criminal aliens start going on Zillow and finding all the for sale
Starting point is 01:56:04 properties that are owned by banks and they just take them all these banks are gonna be mad they are gonna be mad and that's what's uh that's what's gonna happen too i hate i hate to be blackpilled but the reason that they're not throwing a fit uh is because they expect and probably rightfully so that they will be bailed out in any sort of situation like that the real address is tim i call on you to hire a poc co-host who can talk about people of color you want like no is that is that a leftist attempt at getting us to do a dei kind of thing dude i'm on the show every day like come on yeah and i call on you to sue google like jeremy from the quartering said you would? Yeah, I said, if Google did a thing, I would sue them.
Starting point is 01:56:48 And then they did not do thing. I don't know. Like, what do you mean? Yeah, I don't like the calling. If you hire face off of immutable characteristics, you're an asshole. Look at eyeballs when you talk to people. You know what? I mean, I'm as Native American as Elizabeth Warren, so I think these people should really just back off.
Starting point is 01:57:02 Well, there you go. Look at this. Who isn't? I am deeply offended by Real High Joe's white supremacy as the host of the show is literally a person of color. I am mixed race. My ancestry was rooted in deep
Starting point is 01:57:17 slavery with Korea and Japan and horrible stories. You deserve reparations, ultimately. I'm surprised that you don't have generational trauma, Tim. How did you get so successful? It's just, it's everywhere. Before and after the show, Tim actually speaks in a Korean accent. Most people don't know this.
Starting point is 01:57:32 That's true. Yeah. And I hate Japan. Yep. It's the worst. He talks about throwing babies off cliffs. I'm sorry. I'll stop.
Starting point is 01:57:40 No, I've been to Japan. Japan's awesome actually. Oh yeah. Jimmy Corsetti is there right now, scoping out ancient megalithic structures hell yeah oh that's cool yeah may says y'all are hardcore simping for china beanie boy is right this time tiktok is a weapon and y'all lied about the bill deciding feeling smart was better than doing the smart thing def a1 and y'all have no inspiration left well let's let's just be crystal clear. I did not lie about the bill. I extrapolated based off of prior injustice perpetrated by the United States federal government. And let me also
Starting point is 01:58:10 add, since I now have an opportunity to counter what Tim said, it was the Institute of Virology that you're talking about was being funded by your taxpayer dollars with NIH and Anthony Fauci. So you might want to look into that. Which is these are all bad things yeah and we should stop them well well let's actually prove that our government is is in fact antagonistic with the ccp as opposed to embed with them and do we want to empower them further given that they have the closest proximity in terms of power over us pretty sure we are antagonistic when we send warships to the taiwanese straight of taiwan and australia do you agree then why would it be be funding their institute of virology why why i think if i why would it be funding their Institute of Virology?
Starting point is 01:58:45 Why? Why? I think if I think if you take a holistic view of what happened between the U.S. and China, it's that the U.S. thought we could be good trade partners. And slowly, especially over the past several years, it's begun to break down substantially, notably when mask manufacturers were based in China and their companies were based in America. And then when COVID happened, China ordered those ships turn around and bring those masks
Starting point is 01:59:09 and China just outright seized American property. This is what China does all the time. And Americans are just like, well, I don't care. It's remarkable that China does not have trade reciprocity with us, but we are supposed to have it with them as it pertains to TikTok. Are we allowed to operate Google in China? No, TikTok's not even allowed in china they have douyin right so why are we allowing china to run ops in our country and buy our land and run businesses did you know that a foreign individual from any country can start a business in america that's not that's insane
Starting point is 01:59:40 yeah in in places like brazil if if a foreign individual wants to come to brazil start a company a brazilian has to be involved right and that's like that's how mexican real estate like most nations not america most nations have issues like that but so i'll tell you about immigration so what we've seen over the past over over over uh i don't know how long it's been the case but you will get someone from switzerland they will form they will file articles of incorporation in the United States and Delaware or something, start a company.
Starting point is 02:00:07 The company will then do business with their company that they own, generating money. That company, United States, will then say,
Starting point is 02:00:14 we seek to pay this individual, the man who started the company, and then file for a visa to bring this person in, giving them the right to citizenship. They effectively
Starting point is 02:00:23 buy their way in by starting companies here. We are like the only country in the world that has complete open borders relative to the rest of the world. It's remarkably insane how America just basically says our country is free for the taking.
Starting point is 02:00:38 China has been buying up massive amounts of our land and it's just like, well, you know, that's fine, I guess. It isn't really messed up. China's actually been buying everywhere when i was in brazil in one of the uh favelas i had a bunch of people telling me that like large portions of land is being just bought up by china they are owning everything everywhere are they using fiat they're just printing print print print give give they're exploiting the system they they have this this scheme where like a middle-class
Starting point is 02:01:05 person who owns a home like a chinese house like a million dollars a ridiculous little like garbage house that way it generates fake wealth and they can put a fake on the books and then they can go to someone else and say it's a million dollars but what is what is backing that million dollars i don't know a 15 by 15 box on a hill with no running water but a lot of the real estate that's being purchased in america by chinese people is being done so because they still perceive the US dollar to be stronger than their local currency. Those people are in fact trying to divest themselves of the inflationary process, which we're also suffering. So I think that what has made America unique is our valuing of property rights and free trade i think that has made us the strongest economy in the world now it is a fair debate to be had that should should trade policies
Starting point is 02:01:50 be reciprocal should we only have free trade policies with nations that have free trade with us that's i'm not sure what the correct answer is on that i don't want a free market the answer is yes should they well i'm saying will you only trade freely with them if they are going to have tariffs against you because historically the american answer has been that it's not reciprocal if you are for free market you cannot engage in trade with someone who does not engage back it's not free trade at that point so if your argument is we should allow we should do commerce with china we don't want to constrict foreign investors the issue is that we have great things and china says we'd like to gain we'd like to buy property in your country we go yes please now we'd
Starting point is 02:02:29 like to buy property yours i go screw off and you go oh and they say and then they come to you and say we want to we want to sell products in your country that um you know we think are bad right and we go well that's fine it makes money right can we can we do the same thing in your country no right it's it's totally it's totally unjust i i just would prefer diplomacy to remedy that as opposed to increasing the trade wars and the barriers that ultimately lead us towards a hot conflict with the nation with 1.6 billion people and 300 nuclear weapons i i do feel like your your positions entirely throughout this conversation pertaining to say new york california is capitulation and surrender well yeah i'm not interested in war tim that's right true well i look like there will come a time when a man comes to your house and
Starting point is 02:03:09 say better not going to fight with him yeah your squatter can have my house i'm a pacifist but if you're being attacked your war if you're being aggressed on pacifism is not an option that's the problem and that's the problem we're facing i do believe you have to prove that we're being aggressed on um i think they have to prove that they're not. We're going to carry the conversation over the members only show. So my friends head over to Tim cast.com. Click join us, become a member. If you want to hear us yell at each other some more,
Starting point is 02:03:31 it'll be a lot, a lot of fun. We'll, we'll be more swearing this time. So it'll, it'll be silly yelling with swearing. Yeah. Yelling with swearing.
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Starting point is 02:04:17 Yeah, Tower Gang. Don't watch them ever. Thank you, Ian, for shouting them out. And that's it. And I love you guys very much. And thank you so much for having me, Tim. And we'll duke it out in the after section. I'm Libby Emmons.
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