Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #988 MAJOR Terror Attack On Moscow, Ukraine DENIES Involvement, WW3 w/Jack Posobiec

Episode Date: March 23, 2024

Tim, Ian, Phil, & Serge join Jack Posobiec to discuss a major terrorist attack underway in Moscow, Candace Owens being ousted from the Daily Wire, and MTG moving to remove Speaker Mike Johnson after t...he house approved a massive spending bill. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A lot of crazy news today. It's really nuts for a Friday in Moscow. I believe the death count is up to 70. Major terror attack took place. There was a theater show. I believe it was a shopping mall. I want to make sure I'm going to try these. It's like an entertainment center.
Starting point is 00:00:14 So it's all kind of combined together like a big mall. Yeah, the videos are absolutely crazy. People are being gunned down. It's horrifying. And of course, initially, this is Moscow. So a lot of people were wondering if Ukraine was involved. Ukraine has denied involvement. Apparently now, according to the media, it's being widely reported that ISIS has claimed responsibility.
Starting point is 00:00:33 I got to be honest. When I heard that, I went, huh? Does ISIS still exist? I did not realize that. Okay. Well, you know. Now, the crazy thing is it was a couple weeks ago the U.S.. issued a the State Department issued a warning about an imminent terror attack in Moscow. So we're going to go through all those details, break that down.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Got a lot of crazy news today. The House has passed the mini omnibus bill. Woohoo. We're all excited about that. And I think more Democrats voted for it than Republicans. So great. Marjorie Taylor Greene filed to vacate Speaker Johnson. Matt Gaetz is saying this could lead to a Democrat Speaker of the House.
Starting point is 00:01:06 That's exactly what I was thinking. And then, of course, Candace Owens is officially out at the Daily Wire. And the Internet lit up when they found out there is a lot going on. Some of her podcast episodes are unavailable right now. And people are speculating as to what was the cause of this. I'll just say right off the bat, I think it was probably the contract ended. So that's really the simple version but we'll definitely get into some of those missing episodes and talk about all of this uh crazy crazy news going on uh before we get started
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Starting point is 00:03:47 Welcome to the beginning of democracy. Maybe not the end. We ended it already. So now we have to begin a new democracy. I love that arc. The very obvious, the crowd laughs. You chuckle as you're saying it. And then CNN's like, Jack for sovic wants to add democracy that was something i mean you you do different stuff you
Starting point is 00:04:12 know you do shows every day every night you come up with i was doing things and you never know what's really going to take off what's because i kind of speed ran all the different things you're not supposed to talk about because i hit ending democracy and January 6th. And then I held up a rosary and said, we're going to replace everything with this. And I kind of just speed ran at that all at once. And, you know, then I did, you know, the whole speech about how we're going to end democracy by, you know, destroying voter ID checks and making it so that you can't actually audit the election. And we're going to censor people in social media, arrest our main political opponent four times in the midst of an election and, you know, all of this. And they just didn't even care.
Starting point is 00:04:52 That's, and even though I did, I did appreciate when Bill Maher was going on and bringing it up because you could really tell that when he started reading it, he, he probably had been handed it. I totally agree with your analysis that he had been handed like a note card from his staff who was like all woke and upset about what I said. But then something kind of, you can see him like halfway through the quote where he's like, oh wait, this is a bit.
Starting point is 00:05:19 This is not, you know, this is, I get this. This is something, he wrote this and he was doing a bit and you don't get it. And now I have to stick with it because I've already started it. And now I'm stuck here. So I'm just gonna let her. That's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Let her go with it. It was, yeah, I embarrassed Bill Maher without even being on Bill Maher, which is amazing. You have a new book. We have a book. The book is called The Unhumans. So it's, we're doing pre-sales right now. It is basically, we took all
Starting point is 00:05:46 the communist history episodes that I did last year, The China Files, and then just this past Christmas, all the Chronicles of the Revolution. Basically, every communist revolution that you've seen from around the world, and what myself and my co-author on this is Joshua Lysak,
Starting point is 00:06:02 and we've systematized a communist revolution. So we've broken this out into various stages, OPE, operational planning of the environment, how it's done pre-revolution, in the midst of a revolution, in the current revolution, and come up with a system to actually defeat them
Starting point is 00:06:19 at various stages of the revolution. Right on. So you're a host over at human events everybody knows who you are i guess is there anything else you want to say before i was going to interject something uh i'll say happy birthday to tanya takes it was a birthday so i just have to read this real quick um we got a super chat from print print m roberto jr gets a blend then dies mr bocus gets a blend then dies dies. Mr. Bocas gets a blend, then dies. Can someone go check on Alex Stein? He was just in the hospital, guys.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I didn't even know he was sick. He was just in the hospital. What's going on? I called him. I haven't heard back from him. That is not a funny meme. Phil's hanging out. How you doing, guys?
Starting point is 00:07:00 My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. How you doing, Andy? I'm sitting here with all these communists. Anti-communists, I mean. Well, you know, we're smart and know that things that communists do end up ending
Starting point is 00:07:11 in piles of dead bodies. Yo, Helldivers 2, which we should play for our democracy. It's such predictive programming. Are you down with that? Are you noticing it? They're like, for our democracy! And they fight these bugs. Well, I was told it was satire. It is. Yeah, so right on the nose. To little kids little kids they wouldn't know that it's like okay it's both uh that's the problem with satire sometimes did you write that on humans or are you like a publisher
Starting point is 00:07:31 or so i'm uh i'm the uh i'm one of the authors there's two authors myself joshua lysik and and it's no it's like what phil's saying it's and and conservatives by the way conservatives moderates and centrists need a software upgrade on all this. Yes. Because people sit there and, okay, take what you just said, 100 million bodies piled up. And they'll say, oh, wow, how can people still support communism if it's already killed 100 million people? Wouldn't they think that's wrong? Yes, if you are dealing with people who are reasonable.
Starting point is 00:08:08 If they're dealing with people who are not communists. But if you're dealing with people who are communists or people who are unreasonable, then you are not dealing with someone who views a hundred million deaths as a negative. They'll say, that's a good start. We should add to that. Remember when that woman posted, people often say socialism doesn't work, but whenever you fail, you got to try, try again. And then someone commented with, oops, burn the souffle. it's the it's like the killing fields or something like that right the killing fields of cambodia or uh i mean everything in communist china which of course actually netflix is apparently talking about let's we're gonna do is we got uh ian yo he's what happened everybody good to see y'all check out the culture war from this morning if you haven't seen it yet on tenant media it was hot
Starting point is 00:08:41 rolo rolo tamasi and timothy gordon yeah were you on that one this morning yeah oh word okay cool yeah i'm sir.com uh good to have you back jack as always uh let's just get into it so here's the big news this uh major attack in moscow at the concert hall islamic state claims responsibility uh i'm just gonna come out right away and say doubt but okay the islamic state group claimed responsibility for the attack on the moscow concert hall that left at least 40 people killed i believe you said jack earlier it's up before the show it's up to 70 now i'm i'm seeing 70 of course i'll we should just i'll just do the preface that you know your disclaimer that this thing is ongoing it's happening in real time the attack happened just a couple hours before we went live here uh security services
Starting point is 00:09:23 we know are going through the center right now. So take everything we say as being within the fog of war. This is a real-time situation. It's actually going on. And I believe I'm even hearing stuff that I look into that say that they're still chasing after some of the terrorists and elements of the Wagner Group and even Russian Spetsnaz are up in Moscow trying to go after these guys.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Okay. ISIS? I mean, that would seem like a stretch because ISIS, as everyone knows, at least in terms of the physical caliphate, was destroyed during the Trump administration. We had this orange man as president who did very many, who did very, very bad things to ISIS and they went away. But what people also don't always realize is that ISIS was also fighting Russia in Syria. So certainly would have motive. There's no question about that. It's just been that we haven't really heard from them in years and all of a sudden pop up in the middle of Moscow,
Starting point is 00:10:26 right after Putin has this huge victory, right after Ukraine got absolutely bombed to the stone age last night. I got it. I got a conspiracy theory. Are there subversives in the caucuses that could be trained up to do something like this? Certainly. But the idea that this has nothing to do with ukraine is
Starting point is 00:10:45 frankly just ludicrous i think it could be russia that's what i was thinking too the the the the what what is what would the objective be for ukraine what what is their gain militaristically strategically of attacking uh this concert hall there there is an obvious one shock terror yes you you fight us we bring this to your home you won't down on themselves yes not not but but also making sure the people of russia that are supporting it know that this is not something you can hide from we'll bring it to you there's also the uh i'd be that's the most likely the the slightly uh or a bit less likely but still very probable is russia doing it to itself because it could they could then point the finger at anybody they want
Starting point is 00:11:22 i suppose and i've heard heard like Malcolm Nance said that and some other people, but it's, you know- Oh, he's a conspiracy theorist now, huh? And I, and no, he's always been a conspiracy theorist. He's a clown. No, I mean, he can track artillery pieces and shells flying overhead. Never seen a FASM ever before.
Starting point is 00:11:38 They come in threes and it's like, oh, there's number four, oops. But so the idea being that, you know, if you're Russia and you're Putin right now, you're saying that we defeated the Ukrainian counteroffensive. I've just been reelected and he's he's claiming victory and not to get into the hole. By the way, I love how they say, well, there's statistical anomalies in Putin's election. Like, oh, really? So statistical anomalies are allowed to be a verifier for whether or not an election is legitimate or not. Interesting. I wonder if there's any other countries we can apply that to.
Starting point is 00:12:06 But Putin wants to project strength right now. And the worst possible thing for projecting strength would be showing that your capital can be attacked and that your people can be just merciless. I don't know if we've played any videos yet. We were just watching them, but I don't even know if YouTube will. Yeah, I don't think we can play.
Starting point is 00:12:24 I mean, look. Some of this stuff, because it's not censored yet or anything. Merciless videos that I don't think if we've played any videos yet. We were just watching them, but I don't even know if YouTube will- Yeah, I don't think we can play, I mean, look. Some of this stuff, because it's not censored yet or anything. Merciless videos that I don't think we can play. This is similar to, Phil, you and I were talking before. It's similar to Botoclon in, I think it was November of 2015 or so in Paris. And I mean, but the difference being
Starting point is 00:12:41 there's more powerful social media now. And so you can actually see videos from inside as people were posting them online of these machine gun wielding assailants, militants, walking around and just slaughtering people, forcing people into a corner. And stop me if I'm going too far, but, you know, forcing people into a corner and for YouTube, I mean, and just gunning them all down. And again, these are innocent civilians at a concert hall. So, of course, the United States very quickly had to say, we don't think Ukraine had anything to do with this. Fastest investigation in world history, by the way. Faster than the Jeffrey Epstein investigation, as a matter of fact. And they have to do this because if there's even a whiff of the CIA being involved in this,
Starting point is 00:13:25 then that means all of our taxpayer dollars going to fund Ukraine, going to fund this war, just funded that attack that you just saw. And keep in mind that, and there's this clip that Alex Jones just posted when I was on InfoWars at the beginning of March saying that there are going to be terrorist attacks coming in Moscow. We actually, we have this. That this phase of the war, that the war was moving into a new phase, an insurgency phase. We have the article actually right here from National Review. State Department warns of imminent terror attack in Moscow, warns America to avoid crowds from March 8th.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I mean, that's wild. Well, I mean, look, there's one thing that I want to say about this. The United States has had and clearly still does have the most advanced and the most comprehensive surveillance apparatus in human history. So just because they got wind of something doesn't mean that they were planning something or they were involved in funding. Oh, no, of course. But there have been terror attacks, not to this scale, in Moscow. There have been the drone strikes so for the u.s to warn well and daria daria dugina so right exactly dugan's daughter was car bombed yep in an assassination that you know it's it's questionable so alejandra dugan for people who don't know is like this this high you know high profile um writer political theorist etc uh within russia and outside and
Starting point is 00:14:47 people have called him like and it's you know debatable whether this is true but they've called him putin's brain and it's very ideological and has called for a mass you know re revamping and reordering of all the russian-speaking peoples into one country and they said that you know this is kind of similar to where putin gets some of these ideas that he, that he espoused on Tucker. And so anyway, they, they blew up his car, but his daughter happened to be driving it. And so people aren't sure if they were targeting him or targeting her, obviously a very, very, very high level attack. It was carried out with precision in Moscow, more than likely by Ukrainian intelligence. Certainly, I would say at this point, with US intelligence backing,
Starting point is 00:15:28 same way as Nord Stream 2. And the idea that, look, we just had the New York Times article at the beginning of March that predicated all of this, which is before I went on Infowars and made my prediction before the State Department came out. And Phil specifically said concerts concerts specifically used the word concerts within 48 hours uh the warning did the warning did specifically the word concerts and said
Starting point is 00:15:52 extremists are targeting public gatherings including concerts so they specifically use the word concerts and uh we had that new york times article that that said the CIA has spent a decade building a dozen bases across the borderlands of Ukraine and Russia, which is funny because the word Ukraine means borderland itself. And specifically that they were training up this guy, Kirill Budanov, who has just been appointed the head of Ukraine's intelligence services. And at the time they were talking about maybe positioning him as the head of all of Ukraine's intelligence services. This is the CIA's man in Kiev. And so that all happens.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Victoria Nuland all of a sudden just suddenly like disappears from the scene. And I said, look, it's very clear what's going on. They're going to move into the insurgency phase of this. They understand that they're going to be losing at least the four oblasts that they've already lost, probably, or at this point, well they've already lost probably or at this point well you know going back at this point definitely four more and at given what we've seen and this level of atrocity now if if putin believes that ukraine had even a whiff of involvement of this i mean i wouldn't be i want to be anywhere near zielinski right now yeah but also right in the
Starting point is 00:17:06 bunker does it even matter if they do or do not russia russia that glimmer putin must operate under the assumption it was ukraine there's there's no other assumption i'll say everyone in russia the perception wise is going to blame this on ukraine and the united states and so is everyone in china and so is everyone in the global south and so is pretty much anyone who's looking at this thing no. Nobody's going to say this is ISIS. As it comes to war, I often say it doesn't matter what's true. Clearly the truth matters to a great degree for
Starting point is 00:17:31 history and policy but in terms of what escalates conflict, I mean it could be the plumb truth that a bunch of ISIS radicals did this but it doesn't matter because you have an entire nation that's going to be who's our enemy, who stands to gain, why would we be attacked? And we are the enemy right now. How did World War I start? Yeah. So sure, it was a Serbian nationalist assassinating the heir to
Starting point is 00:17:55 the Habsburg Empire. So the heir to Habsburg, the heir to Austria-Hungary, but then that triggers, so that triggers a war with Russia, which triggers a war with France. And everybody knows how the alliance has worked out. It's about the domino effect. I even forgot to mention in the opening that Kate Middleton came out and said she had cancer. I mean, like, this is a wild day. Really sad. Wild, wild day.
Starting point is 00:18:17 You know, the situation going on in Russia, it speaks to what we've all you know been discussing for the past well for the past year since since the uh invasion started which is you don't know what is going to happen that would escalate and i don't see how russia doesn't look at this as you know an attack on on them from the ukraine every everybody knows that they're going to try and escalate so it's just a matter of what does putin get out of uh you know or what what does he want to target in in ukraine because he's gonna he's got all the excuse he needs now so whatever whatever idea that he may have had in his head that he was like when but maybe i can do this or maybe i can't do that when it comes to doing some kind of decisive move to end in the hopes of ending the russian war he's got all the excuse
Starting point is 00:19:06 that he had that he could possibly want right now well and and and remember too that in russia and the way they view the conflict and the way most russians view the conflict is not necessarily they're they're not like it's not like they hate ukraine and they just want to destroy ukraine right they view this as a an existential war with collective West. So they view that the West has declared war on them. And this is what Putin was essentially trying to get across to Tucker. And when Tucker says, why did you invade Ukraine? And his response was, well, from our perspective, we were invaded. And now what do you have in France? You have Macron going out there and saying, we're going to send thousands of troops from France into Western
Starting point is 00:19:45 Ukraine. You've heard the new Polish president, the new globalist Polish president, Donald Tusk, saying that he's going to do the similar with Polish troops. And so what you're really looking at now is a Syrianization of the conflict. And I laid all this out a while back. And if you look at Syria and how the Syrian civil war played out, and it's amazing, even ISIS is showing up, right? So I said there would be a Syrianization of the conflict wherein the government controls part of the country. Then there's another part of the country that's controlled by, quote unquote, separatist groups. You'll see terrorist attacks all over the place. Russia will come in and stabilize some areas.
Starting point is 00:20:20 And then you'll just see little pockets of American and Western troops coming in to, quote unquote, stabilize various areas. And I laid this out an entire month ago. And that's exactly what we're seeing play out here. So we're going to see a frozen conflict. if Putin would be interested in allowing the current regime to stay in power in Kiev. You know, we're having that solar eclipse on the 8th. Yes, very excited. And there was the other solar eclipse back in October, which draws an X right over Eagle Pass. I saw people talking about and i don't i don't know how much of it is true but people are saying like uh someone mentioned on the show that the eclipse is going to travel through like five different cities named nevae uh nineveh nineveh nineveh yeah wow what is that misspoke but nineveh was like a it's a the story in the bible they talk a lot about the city of nineveh i think it
Starting point is 00:21:18 was in that's where jonah was supposed to go really yeah joining the whale that he was is that true the eclipse is going over that city someone said it goes it went over five cities called nevae but they misspoke and they meant to say neva i haven't double checked though i haven't checked oh man i i just i'm like i don't know that i can believe any of this stuff but uh i actually had a couple people ask me who are normies totally just they were like do you think there's even an election if like a war breaks out like somebody who doesn't pay attention to politics but knows enough that this stuff's going on in russia ukraine israel questions so often yeah like do you think we even have it i'm like well ukraine already canceled theirs so right here's here's another big thing that's coming up
Starting point is 00:21:53 zielinski's term so zielinski's term because he's the president is supposed to end is actually set to end two months from today essentially it's like the like the end of May, like May 21st, May 22nd. So the question then is, if he's only the legal president until the end of May, then if Russia wanted to conduct an operation against this guy, they could easily say he's not a legitimate president because his term ended
Starting point is 00:22:22 and he's ruling by fiat and military action well so here's an honest question um with several oblasts in ukraine already outside of ukrainian control they cannot hold a an election they can hold an election in the territories they control but certainly not in the donbass region some people well they already weren't before Before the control of the Russians? Before 2022, they were in national elections, didn't include Kiev or the separatist areas. It didn't include Kiev? Excuse me, not Kiev, Crimea. Crimea. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Well, obviously not Crimea since 2014 or whatever, but the Donbass was not included. Correct. Okay, fair point. The argument made by many on the left is like, how do you have an election when you've lost territory in a war, plainly as they've already done, apparently? Yeah, I mean, it would be, and it'd be interesting too, because Zelensky has a lot of deep-seated opposition within his own country. There are people who have said that he hasn't conducted the war well. There are people who have pointed out, and the average Ukrainian doesn't actually know how many people were killed in the counter-offensive uh they have no clue they're just they're totally psyoping everybody about how many people they lost and
Starting point is 00:23:28 how many casualties they took in that ridiculous uh that ridiculous just throwing people against the russian lines and um so you've got petro porshenko the previous president who ran against zelinsky in um in his first election in 2018 you've got uh 18 or 19, and you've got a lot of people, by the way, like, so people don't remember this, but Zelensky was actually very unpopular before the war started because of the lockdowns. It's like this like totally separate. Oh yeah. Remember that? It's like, it's like on the previous season. And there were protests in Maidan square against Zelensky because they thought he was too harsh on the lockdown policies. He was pushing the vaccines too much and, you know, foreshadowing. And then it was sort of this like Avengers bearded Zelensky that comes out in the face of the war who gets this, this huge
Starting point is 00:24:15 row of support. But then as the war has gone, gone South, just like has happened in many, many situations, like, I don't know, South Vietnam, for example, the leader who we thought was the stalwart defender of freedom that is now viewed as kind of like a loser, kind of pathetic, saying you can't win on the battlefield. We need somebody fresh in there. And the problem with that is, you know, you make those deals with the CIA. CIA puts you on an early retirement plan pretty quick.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Yeah, I just had a uh totally normal person just say something came up about the red sea trading and like china and then sure jumped right to and then when the war starts they won't have elections and then you don't got to worry about biden or trump and i was like oh man maybe that's we know we keep talking about what's the democrat plan for Joe Biden. He's not popular. They don't got anything. Yeah, it could be. How can we have an election when, you know, we're currently under attack?
Starting point is 00:25:11 Or the worst part of it. And this is something that even Neil Howe got into in Forthurning is that the new version of it was that if a war starts and then there's a provocation in the US or Ukraine or somewhere in Europe, and somehow it gets blamed on Trump and it gets like blamed on MAGA and somehow there's some connection to Trump, then all of a sudden it's like you're on the side of Hitler. Man.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Well, we'll do a hard segue into American domestic issues because this is very big news from earlier today. Ben Shapiro's The Daily Wire severs ties with Candace Owens after her embrace of anti-Semitic rhetoric. I love the headline from the corporate press on all of these things. Jeremy Boring, co-CEO of Daily Wire, simply said that Daily Wire and Candace Owens have ended their business relationship. It was fairly professional.
Starting point is 00:26:06 As far as I know, Candace did also just said, here's my YouTube channel. Thank you. Everybody runs wild with speculation. And you can't help it, can you, CNN? They had to make sure they put Ben Shapiro's name in it. They want to make sure they get those clicks. And they had to include anti-Semitic rhetoric. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Well, it's Oliver Darcy. I know, I know, of course. But to be fair, there's like four or five other corporate press outlets that did the exact same thing. So what we know is that she is no longer with the Daily Wire. There are many people that are suggesting the issue was she had made comments critical of Israel. And she was critical of certain Jewish individuals pertaining to Christianity versus Judaism. However, I don't know that any of that
Starting point is 00:26:49 plays a role, to be completely honest. I think her contract was likely coming to an end and she's she disagrees with them. It really is much simpler. We know for a fact that Ben and Candace disagree on a lot of things. i don't
Starting point is 00:27:05 think that's grounds for them to be like we're no longer going to work with you ever again but if they both were kind of like maybe we shouldn't work together that's just it yeah she tweeted out that she's free that was part of her tweet so she obviously felt trapped there oh wow up until today and she and ben had that falling out i don't know four or five months ago i wasn't here and i didn't talk about it but i i saw they had a miscommunication and it was and then they kind of neither of them realized what was going on and then all of a sudden it blew up into this big fight and then they stopped talking to each other
Starting point is 00:27:29 and then she wouldn't mention his name. She probably wanted out. She probably went to the guys and was like, triple my salary, new contract. And they were like, no. And she's like, all right, I'm done. I don't think she, I doubt she probably asked for a lot more money.
Starting point is 00:27:40 I bet she wanted like a huge raise because she was really unhappy is my guess or she didn't even ask for anything and she just left. I'm assuming Candace is, she's already successful and wealthy and she doesn't need the money from them. She's going to be great. If it's an issue of freedom and you've got someone who's a millionaire, it's impossible to buy freedom. Yeah, she should start her own network, CandaceOwens.com. But I do want to point this out.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Is that right? Uh, uh, Christie Nevels on Twitter. I'm not sure who this is. Uh, took a screenshot showing that episodes two 99 and 301 of the Candace Owens show have been removed saying that both were about Bridget McCrone. And if you head over to Apple podcasts, you can see that the episode from March 13th, I believe is what we're looking at. Uh, no, no, there's no one. So what is it? Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. March 13th is not there.
Starting point is 00:28:24 So it goes 12 to 14, 300 to 302. And it goes March 7th to 12th. There's no 299. So there's no, but there is a March 8th shot in the dark. So I don't know for sure, but it looks like one of the key issues may have been coming out and saying that Emmanuel Macron's wife, Bridget Macron, is a man and I'll stake my career on it i have to assume that the daily wire immediately got a lawsuit threat because that's how these things work we've received threats of lawsuits now many people
Starting point is 00:28:57 there's a lot of people who are like no no israel and they're they're saying it's because she was critical of israel or whatever yeah it's It's entirely possible, you know, considering, you know, Ben Shapiro is much more invested for obvious reasons. By the way that, and I haven't even looked into it, but that would potentially be under French law. Well,
Starting point is 00:29:14 elaborate. So defamation laws, as most people know in the U S is extremely loose. It's, it's, it's, it's, and even more so for public,
Starting point is 00:29:22 uh, in individuals, public figures. So they say, uh, this came up with Nick Salmon, public figures, they say. This came up with Nick Salmon, of course, because Nick Salmon was a private individual who was defamed as opposed to a public individual. This did not come up, for example, for Kyle Rittenhouse because they claimed that Kyle Rittenhouse was named in the arrest warrant. And so when he was named in that capacity figure that made him a public figure so that being said in the eu the the lies are the laws oh yeah the laws are much much stricter and i've seen people try to do this they call it um they call it uh what is it like like you know i
Starting point is 00:29:57 think i'm sorry just tourism lawsuits in the uk where people try to have like tried to do this in the uk and it doesn't work but but if France were going to bring it, it could be pretty rough. I think I just figured it out. I just figured it out. You figured it out. Candace Owens goes to the guys at the Daily Wire and says, I want more money.
Starting point is 00:30:13 And they said no. And she goes, contract negotiation. They go, contract negotiation. She says, this is not working for me. They're like, well, too bad. You're in a contract. And she goes, oh, yeah? So she goes on her show and goes,
Starting point is 00:30:21 Bridget McCrone is a man. And then they're like, ah! And then they're like, okay, okay, we get it. We get it. You're out of your contract. Leave us alone. That did kind of come out of nowhere. Right?
Starting point is 00:30:33 Yeah. And I'm thinking, like, what is she? Could it be that she came out with those episodes saying, I will stake my career on Bridget McCrone being a man? Because it put the liability on the Daily Wire, which she would not absorb and so they're like okay okay okay which i'm sure if she said it on the show it would come under but as far as i know candace she has integrity so i don't think she would say something she didn't believe i so i i tend to yeah i'm with you on that i don't i don't think candace would it came out of nowhere though i don't think candace just knowing her would would do something she didn't strike me as the kind of and people were like oh does candace hate this person or
Starting point is 00:31:10 that person and i don't think she's like that i just really don't think she's like that at all good person right it's like a really funny actor that is stuck in a political realm like if the world were very healthy she'd be like an actor i feel like she's just got that like lightheartedness to her that's why when everyone's like oh it's because of this thing or that thing i was like when i actually sat down when i met candace when i went on her show the first time i was deeply impressed uh like it was it was it was legit it was genuine she knew what she was talking about she did the research her logic was sound i actually agree with her on a lot of things i was like oh wow she knows exactly what she's talking about and then before during, during, and after the show, it was all completely genuine and real.
Starting point is 00:31:49 And I truly believe she believed what she was saying. So it would be funny if she was having, like, tough negotiations with Daily Wire, and they were like, Candace, you have another year on your contract. You can't leave. And she goes, then I will make it not worth it for you. That would be funny, but, yeah, it's probably not the case. But that means she also deeply believes that Bridget McCone is a man, and I don't think that's correct, but, you know. We did a bit on this on The Unusual Suspects with Vinny Oshana
Starting point is 00:32:13 at the Valuetainment a couple weeks ago about Bridget. And I don't want to do a whole Bridget McCone segment, unless you guys want to, but it's pretty wild. Have you looked into it at all? The glancing look I gave into it was something that they couldn't find pictures of when she was younger. They're kept in the same place
Starting point is 00:32:32 as Epstein's Black Book and the Michelle Obama pregnancy photos. Everyone has transes on the brain. When I was older, it really, like, everybody, it's this, like, thing where people are just constantly thinking, like, the transvestigators are on the prowl you know investigators i love i was gonna say do you remember the transvestigators yes it was leftists and they were
Starting point is 00:32:54 like taking pictures of women and being like this is actually a man and here's why and i'm like it's funny because that's like the meanest thing to say to a woman it's like it's like no it's actually the nicest thing to say. So what you want to do, what you could do to- I don't know, man. Lizzo's beautiful, apparently. You could go on, like, there was a 4chan post of this guy saying that he goes,
Starting point is 00:33:13 you see what I'm talking about? No. Where he goes and says, oh, I've been dating these liberal women that I'll meet with on dating apps on purpose and I'll go out with them. And after like the first couple of dates, I'll be like, that's really cool that you're, you know, that, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:27 not only that you've been so, you've been so open about your transition, but you, you know, you really pass, you really pass. And that it just drives them completely nuts. And he was like, I've done this to seven women now. They can't get mad about it. They can just be like, Oh no, I'm not. And you'd be like, Oh really? Oh, because I thought we were, wasn't that, there was a Seinfeld episode about that
Starting point is 00:33:49 where Elaine was dating a guy and she thought he was black. And then he thought she was, I think he thought she was either Jewish or maybe also black, I forget what it was. And he's like, but your name is Bennis. And at the end they're like, so wait, so we're just a couple of white people and she goes she goes yeah i guess we are what do we do i don't know do you want to go to the gap
Starting point is 00:34:10 the uh the macron things i don't really want to talk i don't know anything about it or if it's real and it's insane to me to think that a world leader is married to a 25 someone that's 25 years older than him that is transsexual or trans. The age thing is already weird enough. Yeah. Yeah. Age thing is already weird enough. The story goes that he was 16
Starting point is 00:34:30 and he met his future wife in school, that she was his teacher at the time or something like that. I don't know. That's about as far as I'm going to go. It feels like straight up grooming. I got to read this paragraph. Oliver Darcy is such a scumbag.
Starting point is 00:34:42 He wrote, but since the October 7th hamas terror attack on israel owens has repeatedly waded into anti-semitic waters now now hold on what could she have possibly said that was so anti-semitic as she fiercely criticized israel what that's a country suggesting the jewish government was committing genocide in gaza and claiming there's a sinister small ring of jewish people in hollywood Hollywood and DC involved in something quite sinister. If you want to separate those two statements, I'd, I'd accept that people are allowed to criticize Israel over their military actions. You know, so who else who else criticizes Israel and accuses Israel of genocide? Other Jewish
Starting point is 00:35:18 people all the time. Like go, go look on Twitter, go look on, go spend five seconds on Tik TOK. You'll find some. I just, I just love that. It's like Candace Owens has criticized Israel's military operations. She is wading into antisemitism. It's like, dude, despair me with that stuff. Come on, man. Yeah. That's like some straight up Iraq war kind of.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Right, I know. I mean, look, also you have to remember like the Israel Gaza thing is like Schrodinger's bigot. Like if you, if you support Gaza, then you're anti-Semitic. If you support Israel, then it's because you hate the Muslims. Either way, you're damned if you do. You're damned if you don't. They can't just write, we don't have comment from them on why the separation, and just end it with a single paragraph.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Because Oliver Darcy is a scumbag grifter. So, let me just explain. He puts Ben Shapiro's name in the title because it gets clicks, because they know that when people do a keyword search, this article would pop up. Instead of just putting The Daily Wire, which is a corporation for which Ben Shapiro is involved, he could have wrote Jeremy Boring's The Daily Wire. He's the co-CEO. Now they have to milk as much out of it as possible. I don't know if you guys saw that tweet from Alex Jones. He said that Israel is committing a robotic
Starting point is 00:36:29 genocide. Yes, it was a video of drones bombing these civilians walking. What it looks like four dudes. We've got to be careful on that one. No one knows what it is. We don't know what it is. It's four men like young, younger looking men walking and then you see it from the drone's perspective.
Starting point is 00:36:46 It's apparently leaked footage from a drone. Drone is really drone. What's that? It's what? First person view drones. Yeah, I don't think it's not. I don't believe the video footage is coming from a drone that actually, like a Reaper drone or anything.
Starting point is 00:36:57 I think it's coming from- Observation or something. Yeah, small quad rotor. Well, they're walking along and then pop, explosion. There's nothing. You can actually- They're just dissipated. They're like disintegrated. And then you see that, and then pop explosion. There's nothing. You can actually dissipated. They're like disintegrated. And then you see that.
Starting point is 00:37:07 But then you still see like one guy walking. I don't know if they're picking on stragglers. If they hit the group of them. They hit the group and one guy survives, starts walking forward at a brisk pace. And then you can actually see the missiles come down in the video. Whenever Alex Jones, it broke him. That was his moment where he was like, it's they've gone too far. And and, you know, I watch a video like that, and I certainly, I think it raises a probable cause question, degree of a preponderance of evidence to where we're like, this has to be reviewed.
Starting point is 00:37:37 There has to be a hearing. However, I'm very careful in that I'm not going to watch a 30-second video and say, I know what's happening. I just can't do that. Well, but I can certainly take issue is that the drone war has always been like this, right? The drone war has literally almost like almost to a T okay. You know, the Soleimani strike fine, right? You know, who's in the car, but that's a, that's a one-off. There are so many times where things have happened. If you go look at the conduct of this, that U.S. intelligence services, I'm talking about America here, obviously, but now everybody's got drone tech, right? So it used to just be that America would be doing this thing, going to Waziristan in Pakistan, or they'd go throughout Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:38:16 And, oh, we're going to hit this place. We're going to hit that place. And, oh, yeah, we see what's right there on the camera. Those are the bad guys. Let's go blow them up. But a lot of the times, either you don't know what it is, you don't know what the collateral is, you don't know what the situation is as much.
Starting point is 00:38:32 And to your point, the probable cause, it's always been that way. There's a great Ethan Hawke movie about it that not a lot of people have seen. I'm just saying, I try to take the fence sitter approach to this. And I think for Alex to come out-
Starting point is 00:38:43 Tim Pool, a fence sitter? Oh, certainly. Never, never. You know, so it's approach to this. And I think for Alex to come out. Tim Pool, a fence sitter? Oh, certainly. Never. You know, so it's like, I immediately saw it and I wanted to hit retweet and comment and be like, what the? And so my thought was, we need like proper adjudication
Starting point is 00:38:55 on what this is and why it happened. And they, I think Israel should be, like we should demand, especially with this minibus they just passed, massive funding for Israel. They should have to justify what that was provide evidence because it certainly does look like they just blew up a couple civilians that's that's the video that came out and that's the reporting we're seeing and and they should answer for it the american people have every right to question
Starting point is 00:39:17 congress and have congress explain where they're sending their money and and what congress is doing in support of other nations that being said um i like and i don't want to see u.s money going to anyone i don't want to see american dollars going to any foreign aid i think that it incentivizes bad behavior um so full stop on that as for what israel is doing or what that particular uh thing looked like i don't know anything about the people that were in there but that's just what war is and people that are saying you know talking about disproportionate response and stuff the proportionate response is getting hamas like that's the proportion getting the people that carried out the attack you can dislike that and say that you
Starting point is 00:40:01 don't want that cool and that's a completely legitimate position to have but people that say it's disproportionate because they've killed too many people that's not gonna that's not how that's not how military actions work and i'm of the mind that of scott adams when it when it comes to this israel's gonna do what israel's gonna do doesn't matter what i say it doesn't matter what what any of us say and to be honest with you the people that live in gaza and in israel the only people that actually it really matters to directly there there is no such thing as a proportional response that is a made-up term yeah that's you that's what i'm saying i'm like people that talk about proportional response a proportional response is make believe what you do is you set a military goal and then you continue to conduct military actions until you have achieved your military goal the military
Starting point is 00:40:45 goal that caught that the that israelis have set is the destruction of hamas you can it doesn't matter if you like it and i'm not saying you have to like it i'm talking about the reality on the ground there i just want to say i think for all the people in the united states and and those who would watch this show or not uh we're all in agreement. We shouldn't be sending money over there. And if your justification is you think it's a genocide or whatever, I honestly don't care. Because if the only thing we agree on is the U.S. shouldn't be spending money on these foreign wars
Starting point is 00:41:15 and funding anything, then we need not argue the morality of anything going on. That's a waste of all of our time when you and I can say, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, before we argue, how about we just say Congress shouldn't send money to them or any other country. You agree. Okay, we're good.
Starting point is 00:41:27 We're good. Let's just argue morality somewhere else. There are also tons of conflicts going on in the world at any given time. There are conflicts going on in Southeast Asia. There are conflicts going on in Africa. Azerbaijan and Armenia had, Azerbaijan ethnically cleansed like 100,000 Armenians last year from this one area of Artsakh, and nobody even talked about it.
Starting point is 00:41:50 And so I do think with a lot of this, you also have to wonder that is there a financial incentive when the U.S. government is sending that money abroad? Because, and we know this from ukraine right how much of that money makes it back to those american congressmen in many cases or the companies and military financial instruments in which fund those congressmen and so that's it's you have to point out that this is exactly why there are certain conflicts that get so much attention inside thes and others that just aren't even talked about let's uh let's jump to this story which uh involves a i believe it was it was a massive funding bill that uh it was 1.2 trillion dollars spending bill of which uh four was it four billion that went to uh israel i'm not entirely sure i want to make sure we factor this one but uh this is fascinating because more
Starting point is 00:42:42 democrats voted for it than Republicans. And it has led to Marjorie Taylor Greene filing a motion to oust Speaker Mike Johnson over the deal. A $1.2 trillion spending bill they call the minibus was released overnight in the wee hours of the morning that nobody gets to read. And Mike Johnson said, no, it's fine. It's fine. Democrats were like, we like what you're doing mike johnson and so uh matt gates is now saying uh this may be the end of republicans having control in congress it may become a democrat speaker of the house after marjorie taylor green files to oust mike johnson i just i just love the complete and utter disarray and ineptitude of the Republican Party.
Starting point is 00:43:26 I don't blame Marjorie Taylor Greene at all. Actually, I am fine with her filing to vacate Mike Johnson. And I agree with Matt Gaetz. But I just don't see if we're not. It's better that a Democrat actually is running the show than someone pretending to be a Republican. At least we can then be the opposition party. Right. Republican. At least we can then be the opposition party, right? So the American people are starting to see now that the politicians in Washington, D.C. represent other interests than their own
Starting point is 00:43:56 constituents, that there are other things at play. None of this was popular. None of these things were popular to some of the direct groups that are getting money, all the amount of earmarks, the amount of pork in there, sure, the locals will say, oh yeah, my guy got this done, my guy got that done. John Fetterman's like sending money to a podcast or something. But by and large, the huge amounts of spending,
Starting point is 00:44:20 no, it's not popular. So why is it that then certain people just go along with it? Well, that's why they're selected for leadership. That's why those people are able to get into those positions. And then you have people like the Freedom Caucus, you have people in the Senate, like Mike Lee and others who are calling it out, Rand Paul for years and years and years, and nothing ever changes, because calling it out doesn't matter. Because again, just like I was saying that like, you know, arguing with, you know, far communists is never going to get you anywhere. You have to use reciprocity. That arguing with these guys, this establishment, saying that, oh, you know, this isn't good for financial sense for us.
Starting point is 00:44:56 This isn't good for the constituency. This isn't good for the country. They don't care. They're not there to represent you. They're there to represent their special interests. That's how they get leadership. Four billion dollars in military aid sent to Israel in this bill.
Starting point is 00:45:11 How did we go from a bill that was gonna send 14 million, I believe it was, right? Was it 14 million? Or no, it was a billion. No, wait, what was it? That- I think it was always in the billions. It was always in the billions.
Starting point is 00:45:20 The border bill, it was 14 billion? Well, and the border is barely even- Is that bill it was 14 billion well and the border is barely is that what it was though and the border itself is barely even funded in this bill and it definitely but we had that bill that was mostly ukraine money yeah it was like was it 60 billion oh i see what you're saying the bill where the mcconnell one where they were combining the and now the border and after all of the bickering and fighting and refusal and everything, they just pass this stuff overnight. There's no country anymore, man. No, I think what's happening is that we have been in World
Starting point is 00:45:50 War III since 9-11, and it's a slow war. They don't want to declare it. They don't want to tell you, but they're just at war, and they are moving like they're at war, and anyone that complains, they're just going to ignore it because we're at war. We've been at war since forever. I mean, the Korean War, Vietnam. The Patriot Act turned no no just gonna ignore it because we're in the looting bro we've we've been at war since forever i mean the korean war vietnam the patriot act turned us but it's but it's the
Starting point is 00:46:09 patriotic did a lot but what did the patriarch do that you're concerned about well it made made americans fear that they could be squashed by their government if they speak out against them how like what what specifically in the bill are you concerned like warrantless spire spying and things like that there's there's no warrantless spying oh there's lots of it they just they they they claimed they were never warrantless spying the issue is not in my opinion the patriot act there's a lot of bad things in it of course the issue is that the united states has been at war constantly non-stop we had we had uh desert storm in the early 90s no it's not just 9-11 they've been doing this and 9-11 changed so much changed after 9-11 the homeland've been doing this endlessly. 9-11 changed. So much has changed after 9-11. The Homeland Security, all these departments got built.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Homeland Security, for sure, through the Patriot Act. Yeah, so much weird stuff got put into place and just pushed after that in the two years after 9-11. It's fair to say that 9-11 did change the world because I think it's clear that it did. But I think that the surveillance state that we live under now, it was baked in the cake with the information revolution. Right? Like, whether or not 9-11 happened, the iPhone was still going to come out. And the iPhone, the smartphone, the computer and social media in everyone's pocket with a microphone and a camera on it, that's what changed the whole,'s what changed security state and the and it changed the military industrial complex it in it it made social media and information technology a part of the military industrial complex so it made everybody a a node essentially in that security apparatus yeah so what you're talking about is essentially
Starting point is 00:47:41 a low intensity conflict yeah and it's um you know this is a great example of so this is kind of what we talk about because there's this question that we get into in the book about what what would you call the what we're experiencing right now and people have tried alternately to call it a cultural revolution they'll say well wait a minute but it's not like china because people aren't like marching in the streets but just because it's not like china doesn't mean that it's not a cultural revolution. Well, I think that, go ahead. I'm leaning up to it. And that's correct.
Starting point is 00:48:11 That's exactly right. Because we can see elements. We see the struggle sessions. We can see all of these things going on that are very similar to what happened in the Chinese cultural revolution. Pulling down of statues. The iconoclasms. It's similar to the Bolshevik revolution. It's similar to the French revolution.
Starting point is 00:48:24 And we go through all of these and pull it out. And what we've actually determined is that in the same way, and it's amazing that you mentioned technology because it's exactly right. The same way that technology has transformed kinetic warfare, it's also transformed these revolutions that we're in. And so what we actually describe is that it's essentially, it's a low intensity conflict. It's an irregular revolution. And within that irregular revolution, there are multiple micro revolutions going on all the time. And micro revolutions are essentially miniature revolutions that can be like within, you know, 5GW irregular revolutions. I can launch a micro revolution at Tim Pool because he says something
Starting point is 00:49:04 at, you know, on one of the shows or a micro revolution can get launched against me because I give a speech at CPAC and suddenly it's this tactic that goes on and on. And if the person falls for it, if the person, you know, breaks down, then they lose and they go out. And so it's this idea that the new technology has created a new warfare.
Starting point is 00:49:22 This has already been turned into political, irregular, revolutionary warfare. And that's what we're living through. Because it's like, you can't just, like you walk down the street, right? And people are saying, we're not in a civil war. We're not in a, you know, everything's fine. You can kind of go around.
Starting point is 00:49:36 But if you, what if you walk down the street and I do this a lot, I was doing it on Periscope yesterday down at the Jefferson Memorial. And I was just walking around going, hey, Trump won. Hey, so Trump won. And they would say, oh, well, it's starting to get dark.
Starting point is 00:49:48 That's right. It is getting dark in America under this illegitimate president because Trump won. And so the point being is, and then you see the reactions from people. They get really upset. And because you're not allowed to have that opinion. So if you say an opinion you're not allowed to say,
Starting point is 00:50:01 well, what's the word for that? And so the phraseology we're trying to come up with here is that it's essentially an irregular revolution. It is a thought revolution and all these other things. That's what we're in. I used to call it a revolution of the mind, and I was very excited for it in 2006, 2007. I was like, we are entering a new era of digital technology communication where presidents can communicate across the planet without secret service needed via video chat, and the whole world can watch them communicate. Time for a revolution of thought. But then I realized that's what Maoo said a revolution of the mind the exact same words is what i was spouting out my question is this stuff dude they're the number of phrases that americans
Starting point is 00:50:35 utter that actually are directly translated to chinese that were used in communist china if people knew how many that how frequently they're saying that stuff they blow their mind i don't mean to cut you off go ahead there's one there's one in the uh in the trailer for this netflix thing um where they're where they're saying coming today which means um it essentially translates to you know the revolution is crimeless the revolution is sinless the revolution is perfect which is is to say anything done in the name of revolution of the revolution is fine so you can kill people you can expropriate you can do anything you want you can arrest landlords that are not exactly to that you can do anything you want to people that are not members of the party and nowadays in the united states we clearly have a the party and not the
Starting point is 00:51:22 party they said that's the way that it is the revolution will not be televised that phrase was always bounced around in the 90s 2000s i was like well it's true the revolution's on the internet but but it's not even about that has anyone actually considered what that phrase meant when they were saying it the revolution will not be televised it means that they were committing back rooms they were committing subversion against our institutions do you think that there can be no revolution because i think there is an attempt that if some many many like you're saying sub revolutions within this greater cultural revolution can we resist it without another another type of revolution yes do we have to create our own people have to be aware the problem that we're facing the biggest
Starting point is 00:51:56 problem that we have right now is is bad democrats bad liberals right they think they're doing things that are liberal they think they're doing things that are liberal they think they're doing the nice thing but the nice thing is not always the thing that lines up with liberalism and when you're a bad liberal you're doing authoritarian things or supporting authoritarian ideas like censorship like like using the government against your political enemies uh using using uh basically shock troops to terrify the the population like rioting in the streets and stuff like that like that's all stuff that communists have used historically but the the democrats in the united states first of all aren't aware of communist tactics which is why books like
Starting point is 00:52:39 like like jack's book is are so so important and and it's important for people to read them. And they're not aware of the fact that it's a subversive ideology. It is going to hide. It doesn't want to tell the average person that has a mortgage and two kids, hey, we're going to take away your property because that's what you have to do in communism. You have to lose.
Starting point is 00:53:00 But they are. You have to give up your property. You have to arrest landlords. Yeah, completely. Yeah, so we're at the arresting landlords phase of the eureka revolution it's it's as you say so it's we go through the phases of a communist revolution and a communist pre-revolution too because there's all this pre-revolutionary revolution will not be um televised stuff that goes on beforehand um but there's always the inciting motion and then the
Starting point is 00:53:24 seizing of whatever it is, the property, the life, et cetera. They block out your access to rights. And then finally, the purging happens. So either the purging of the person, the arrest, execution, whatever it may be. But the biggest thing that we want to get across in this book is that, and it's to your point, I think it will get there, is that the only answer to any of this, and whether you're a conservative or a moderate or whatever, good liberal, is reciprocity. And conservatives need, the right absolutely needs
Starting point is 00:53:55 to learn the word reciprocity. These people are coming for your homes, literally in New York City, they're coming for, if you commit wrong think, they'll come for your families, they'll come, they're certainly coming for your children. I don't think anyone can argue with me at this point that they're coming for, if you commit wrong, think they'll come for your families. They'll come. They're certainly coming for your children. I don't think anyone could argue with me at this point that they're coming for your children. They will take your children away. If you disagree with them on certain issues. And so they desire to convince your kids that they might be trans. And then you say, no, you're not. So that way they can say, well,
Starting point is 00:54:20 guess what? Those are our kids. Right. And so if you're arguing with somebody who is that committed to their cause is, is, and these causes of course, attract people who are going to be the most loyal because they, these causes that we get into that in the book as well. Like what, what causes a person to be this, this envious and angry it's because they're life's losers and they would not be able to have any success in life outside of the revolution, outside of the regime, outside of power. That's why you see these like, look at the Biden administration. You think any of those people, Karine Jean-Pierre or was it
Starting point is 00:54:52 Admiral Levin or anything would be actually be able to have a successful career in the private sector doing something in the real world? Of course not. Absolutely not. That's why they need to be committed to the revolution. Let's talk about the next phase of the revolution. We have this tweet from Taylor Hanson. Can't make this up. I always do that too. On my flight home to DFW, to Salt Lake City, I have an illegal immigrant, a former soldier from Venezuela, seated next to me on American Air. Every time I fly back to SLC, I have illegal immigrants on my flights. Despite Governor Cox claiming it's not happening, Utah has become the home for over 88,000 illegal immigrants.
Starting point is 00:55:25 As you can see in the documents, he is prior military. In another portion of the documents, it details how he came alone despite having a wife and two children. Let's stress this. In these documents, you can see it says that have you received military training of any type? Yes. And that he has a wife and kids, but he left them behind to come to the United States. Why? Why is a Venezuelan with military training leaving his family behind to come to the United States? Because it's an invasion. Because it's an invasion.
Starting point is 00:55:55 So keep in mind, right, if your if your revolution is predicated on a coalition of the fringes and Steve Saylor came up with that quote. So the coalition of the fringes, then in order to stay in power, you must increase the fringes, and Steve Saylor came up with that quote. So the coalition of the fringes, then in order to stay in power, you must increase the fringes. You must increase the destabilization. You must increase the amount of people in a government, polity, country, society, whatever you want to call it, that adhere or are at least dependent on you. And so the ability to bring in as many people as possible across the border is not a feature. It is not a, you know, unintended consequence. And conservatives need to stop thinking that these are unintended consequences. These are absolutely intended consequences. These are deliberate. The purpose of a system is what it does, and it is not going
Starting point is 00:56:42 to stop on its own. You talk about insurgents, the age of insurgency warfare i mean we just had what 10 million illegal immigrants come across the border where are they well are they do they have secret groups that are planning 10 10 million is what we had several years ago we know about i mean how many and that and that doesn't that that's who we know and then you have millions over the past few years under biden and how many of those in russia in in moscow how many shooters were there six i think there were like three three killed what 70 plus people it's hard to say at this point so there could have been more but i mean of course it could like you said this is only talking about like what we know and there's some that got away so this is what i was talking i mentioned i was talking to a normie not that long ago like a couple days ago and uh part of
Starting point is 00:57:23 it was illegal immigration leading to terror attacks and whether or not that results in some kind of war where then there's no election i think it it makes sense as a military commander to have ins insurgents in another country that then will the sleeper cells will awaken and do the damage from within so that the country turns on its own people to try and defend themselves causes mass chaos you win without even having to attack. I mean, it's just the best tactic for an invading force, for an enemy force. So that they wouldn't do it here is insane.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Obviously, they're going to try and do it here. And what's the very first thing that we do with the illegals when we bring them across? And it's already, I said this a while ago, it's already very clear. And Taylor and many others have been down there documenting this. We give them airplane tickets.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Yep. We give them airplane, we give them tickets. So they already know, right? If you're going to put this into your TTPs, so what happens when you cross the border? Well, you know, you get sent to processing, then you have to do some like little woo-woo hearing and oh, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Oh, you just say the word asylum and you're good to go basically. And then the very next thing that happens is you get handed an airplane ticket. Now let's say you've got maybe five or six brothers along with you. Oh, guess what? Now you're on an airplane.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Now you have the ability. And oh, look, we don't even need like Muhammad Atta and 9-11 hijackers to learn, you know, to sneak in the country. You just walk across. You know, the funny thing is- It's so easy. The Patriot Act allows for the, I believe I i could be wrong indefinite detention of immigrants as they
Starting point is 00:58:48 enter this country so the issue isn't the the patriot act actually right now it's that they are not using the patriot act for one of the purposes people were scared they were going to use it for which is detaining immigrants as they enter the country now people were saying immigrants specifically i'm talking about the illegal immigrants of which millions have crossed in the country without being stopped and there is no mass enforcement against them there is no iron fist government being like we're going to take action against these illegal immigrants none none at all and even donald trump is only saying i'm going to enforce the law it's like oh that's all he's going to do he didn't say the most massive deportation operation yeah but all he's not like all that's
Starting point is 00:59:25 saying is like i am going to engage in a large law enforcement operation to enforce the law like you can say to ever you want if trump came out and said something substantially more egregious then i think there'd be grounds to criticize him i think what we end up seeing with a lot of conservatives is they will say they will take a moderate approach to their beliefs thinking it will win them more friends. And then the Democrats will argue the fringe far left, creating the middle ground of the left. So the compromise between a moderate and a leftist is going to be a left position. If the right is coming out and saying at the bare minimum, we will just start enforcing enforcing the law.
Starting point is 01:00:02 The left will then say, well, let's compromise on that then. And then the compromise with Democrats in Congress is going to end up being like we deport only half the the the main thing that and and i we need to get across to conservatives is is the idea of reciprocity and reciprocity means that anything they do to us the the you know and you see what happens when they come for us, the docs and swatting that we've experienced. And the, the harassment, the censorship,
Starting point is 01:00:33 the cancel culture, it's not going to just stop on its own. And so these, you think people say to your point, right? You know, we think I say, Oh,
Starting point is 01:00:41 well, we're going to compromise. We're going to do this. This is already the plan that they want, that they're putting in place. It's, it's anarcho-tyranny the reason that the patriot act is not applied to select groups and is applied to others yeah they're going to use it to look at your text messages but they don't care about look let's look how is it that in new york they they're arresting the homeowner how is that how is it that we've come to this point and is it
Starting point is 01:01:02 just a fringe one-off thing are we really at the arresting landlords phase? Yes, absolutely. Of course, every single time in this book, every single communist revolution comes to landlords. Do you really believe that in New York City, in 100% of circumstances, when a squatter is at a house, the NYPD will show up and arrest the homeowner
Starting point is 01:01:23 just like they did? Or do you think that those cops were just communists themselves she broke a law by by changing the locks when they said don't change the locks well don't do it and she was like okay i'm gonna go do it anyway that's not my question my question is let's say we replicate that scenario in new york 100 times squatters go into a house homeowner shows up squatters can't prove anything cops then arrest the homeowner does that happen in the majority of cases do you think right now i think over 50 yes my point is we're seeing a system yeah we're seeing a systemized playbook that's laid out look in new york city there are a there are a lot of actual open communists in city government yes they're compute community organizers and they're in
Starting point is 01:02:05 city government that is going to spread this is not this does not stop black pill for me man brother it is happening homeboy san francisco will get it accused san francisco gets it next uh then it'll spread to like madison wisconsin or something chic Chicago. It's just so dark. But you think Madison, Wisconsin. Ian, it's hell. You think Madison, Wisconsin police officers, the majority of the time, because it has to be the majority. I mean, 50% might even be too light. Like this has to be like typical enforcement.
Starting point is 01:02:35 You're saying even in Madison, Wisconsin, Midwest, a homeowner walks up to the house of a squatter there. They call the cops. The cops then say, you can't do anything about it. We'll arrest you if you do. And then it results in homeowners getting arrested you think that'll happen in madison i don't well keep in mind it's not the police saying it it's it's it's what phil saying it's it's the city government is in for no no but requiring it to be enforced i'm specifically
Starting point is 01:02:54 asking about the police because if the cops show up and say i ain't enforcing that law ain't no law getting enforced i think in in west in western maryland we have we have two second amendment sanctuaries where the sheriff's offices have outright said, we will not enforce state or federal gun laws in Maryland. I think sheriffs are different, but you don't have, you don't have, sheriffs are typically in-
Starting point is 01:03:15 Elected positions. Well, sheriffs are always elected, the constitutional law enforcement. But in major cities, you don't really have sheriffs that way. You have that in rural counties, but in major cities, it's usually police force where police are their employees of the city government. Do you think that comes to Omaha?
Starting point is 01:03:31 Eventually. I don't think any of this. Omaha is super low. None of this stuff comes fast, first of all. But it comes to urban areas. So it probably doesn't get into uh you know small towns and into rural areas that tends to be where people don't have police departments yeah but but what i'm saying is like the the whole notion the the the kind of impulse the the socialist impulse that you're
Starting point is 01:03:57 seeing in in you know cities all over the country and it's it's not just happening in the united states this is something that's happening it's definitely happening in canada you can look at the laws that they're passing and the the the fact that they have like three openly communist parties in canada in the in labor in the uk there's tons of communists there's ash sarkar who's an open communist that i don't think she's actually an mp but she's at least talking head. Anyways, the point is the socialist impulse. It's it's it's experiencing a significant uproar upswing. And you see a lot of it in existing governments at at city levels. It's probably not at state, not significant at state levels.
Starting point is 01:04:42 But I mean, just look at aoc the the squad are all if they're not actually members of um the dsa they're at least they caucus with them and they're friendly with them and sympathetic to all those ideas those are the democratic socialists these concepts have a goal like these these political ideas have a have a goal in mind. And it doesn't matter if it's a step today or if it's two steps today. The point is, it's coming. I say this frequently. I wrote a record called The Fall of Ideals in 2006 because I smelled this stuff coming. And every single thing that I've worried about since in in 2012 i released a record called a war you cannot win
Starting point is 01:05:25 that was that like on the cover like was to cross ar-15s because there's all kinds of like american revolution or american second revolution imagery in it in 2010 i released a record called for we are many and it literally the cover of it was was npcs it was it wasn't the same idea or wasn't the same uh thing you see now but it was the idea of some people are actually awake to these ideas and some people aren't this this stuff is called the that was called uh for we are many and and but but this stuff has been coming for a long time and i've been screaming about it and you know as much as i can but like these things don't stop unless they're stopped communists do not just let you live that's where
Starting point is 01:06:05 i come in is like we're not bystanders in this we are leaders and people are listening the faces and stuff and there's a couple people that kind of have the idea and then there's other people that are just kind of npcs but that came out in 2010 these ideas i've been seeing coming and i've seen this stuff for a long time now it's just i i don't i'm not a bystander i'm i'm commanding and communicating with people and changing people on the daily. And I don't want people to lose hope. And if people really truly believe a communist thing is inevitable, they'll give up. It's not about inevitable.
Starting point is 01:06:34 It's about you have to make people aware. People still think I'm, I've been talking to people and people still think I'm crazy. They think it'll never come for them. Oh, it's just happening. It's happened to that. You know, that guy down the street. Oh, it's just happening. It's happened to that guy down the street. Oh, it's just New York. It's just this landowner.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Oh, because she didn't follow the rule correctly. But no, this movement is based in envy and greed. And when you use those sins and those vices and tell people that it is good to be envious of other people's property and other people's things and other people's success and in fact those people are your oppressors and you must rise up and tear them down and tear away the things that they have it will always end like this we we actually had a police officer approach one of our staff requesting to come on the show and talk about
Starting point is 01:07:22 the issue of policing i guess and i don't know in in what context like a currently serving a currently serving uh like a local or uh i don't want to say too much just yet for the for the officer's privacy but more i believe more than just like patrol like a higher ranking uh maybe a sergeant or something is it like a like a comms person who wants to come on no okay no like yeah actual and more than just like beat cop like so i don't i don't know to what extent or whatever but do it i said absolutely 100 uh because the question is right now uh you have a lot of people who have maintained this back the blue no matter who uh mentality where you have cbp willfully and knowingly trafficking
Starting point is 01:08:00 children to sex slavery and you still have conservatives say i don't blame them for it it's not their fault it's biden's fault i'm like the guy who took the child it's his fault nope and i'm like well okay i guess that's i don't agree you have people who right now don't care that when it when it comes down to it at cbp the individuals are the ones coming in this action regard like i get joe biden yeah bad guy hold him responsible but you got to hold the individuals are the ones coming in this action regard. Like I get Joe Biden. Yeah. Bad guy. Hold them responsible, but you got to hold the individuals who do it responsible to imagine like a guy orchestrates a bank robbery and he hired, he hires a bunch of, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:33 gangsters to help him and we're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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Starting point is 01:08:44 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, who planned it that's who's got to go to jail well of course they all do but unfortunately there are still many of those traditional conservatives who have long been back to blue no matter who it's like well you know you're going to end up with a communist wearing a badge and you're going to say i back you and he's going to be like he's going to do the red salute you're going to go don't know what that's all about and then he's going to say come with me to the gulag and you got whatever you say officer speaking of gulags what in in in your new book in humans like do you get into the the like the stuff that was going on gulags or do you get in
Starting point is 01:09:11 or are you more talking about like the conditions that led up to putting people in gulags or what it's it is it is more focused because look i mean we're not going to reinvent the wheel um gulag archipelago is out there solzhenitsyn is out there there's been so many books written about the bad conditions of communism we do touch on basically all of the facts but what we're really interested in in Unhumans is this idea that how do these things get started and at what point can you stop them
Starting point is 01:09:38 and at because I feel like that's kind of what we all sort of are talking around that we know it's going to get bad if this thing starts so at what point can you actually put the brakes on it and do things that meaningfully have a, an effect in the real world,
Starting point is 01:09:53 as opposed to just like, you know, being outraged about it. Let me ask you guys a question. Can police officers enforce the law selectively? Personally, I think that they should be able to because i think that's how it is is it can they well of course they can you can walk off the force yeah so you have never
Starting point is 01:10:12 encountered a situation where you've done something wrong and a cop said don't worry about it yeah that's what i said they can you know they have the option they can and they do all day every single day uh can they yes obviously we know that people are not out if you're going over 35 you're at 36 you're not getting pulled over if you're in a 30 it is 100 selective enforcement tickets in chicago i haven't gotten one in 20 years actually when you speed it says what to what degree we're spinning it says zero through five five through ten ten to twenty and they checked mark that's funny the zeros on there it is that's i was speeding zero miles over that means i wasn't speeding but it's zero through five i guess the idea is but they
Starting point is 01:10:50 absolutely if you're one mile over they can but they never do it's weird to me that people hold this belief that police cannot selectively selectively enforce the law when they quite literally have to selectively enforce the law if you are speeding seven miles over the limit and a cop says, I'm going to pull that guy over and that guy goes, boom, and zooms past you at 100, he leaves you behind. He doesn't say, nope, nope, nope. I'll call that one in, but I'm enforcing the law here. No, he leaves and you're off the hook. And there's also the issuing of warnings there.
Starting point is 01:11:20 There's in my life growing up in having lived, and I shouldn't say growing up, but having lived in several major cities. I think it's an absurdity. And I don't know where this idea comes from, that police don't selectively enforce law when it's quite literally police discretion is a requirement of the job. If they're wasting time and resources by going after low level crime, they could get yelled at if it's if it's minor. And then the community will yell and complain. There are laws like we famously joked about the blue law in Florida, which claimed women weren't allowed to skydive on Sundays.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Not a single police officer would ever respond to that call. Growing up in Chicago, a homeless guy was attacking my family's business, banging on the windows, trying to break it. And the police did not show up for it. It is typical and normal that police selectively choose to enforce law the problem then becomes why do we get these stories where a cop the the one i like to bring up which is a very egregious example the officer who pulled over the woman in new jersey because she had her gun with her for what she has legally permitted he could have just said man i'm going to
Starting point is 01:12:20 drive around this cloverleaf we're going to send you back to philly you can't have a gun in the state no instead he said 60 year old woman should go to prison for the rest of her life he chose to do that the idea of course there's there's uh you know selective enforcement and people don't realize how much discretion is actually built into our laws intentionally the term and i think we talked about this on the show before but the term. And I think we talked about this on the show before, but the term a reasonable person is all over, you know, jurisprudence, you know, or, or, you know, past decisions. And what would a reasonable person say? And what would a reasonable person and reasonable person is a little arbitrary. But if you are a society that shares the same values as in liberal values, things like, you know know you're innocent until proven guilty we don't use the government to punish our political opponents etc then you can kind of rely on your
Starting point is 01:13:10 fellow citizens to say okay this is reasonable this is not reasonable and and you can make those kind of assumptions but nowadays because we're dealing with what essentially amount to counter enlightenment philosophies philosophies, philosophies that don't believe that you can actually contact reality, that you can use words to shape reality. Those philosophies are counter-enlightenment because they reject reason. They reject the idea that you can know reality. They embrace subjectivity. And when you embrace subjectivityivity it allows you to play all
Starting point is 01:13:45 sorts of linguistic games and say well i see things this way and i say things that way and what you believe doesn't matter because of my lived experience those those concepts that we hear like lived experience those things come from the fact that the philosophy that they're basing their ideas on are counter to the enlightenment and we have a society based on the enlightenment because you generally can rely on the fact that you interact with reality and even if had one well yes truth true you know but that kind of stuff is important and and without people that agree on reality you you know societies break down and so let's say let's say that you were a subversive and you wanted to break up a good society like that or you because you were envious of the people
Starting point is 01:14:31 in that society what would you do you would begin the mass importation of people from countries who don't uh agree or adhere to those beliefs from people who never went through an enlightenment period or a a renaissance or any of these things. People who have a very different relationship between the people and the government. They're not even thinking about it from that perspective. And so what you would do then is not only would you bring people in like that who have different ideas, but also you would fill the country with people who are essentially strangers. And in doing so, you're number one, you're weakening the purchasing power and the wage earning power of anyone in the working class. You're putting
Starting point is 01:15:10 massive pressure on the education system, massive pressure on the healthcare system, massive pressure on the housing system. And you're breaking down the bonds of neighborhoods. It's not if people are like, oh, how dare you say that? That's like racist or whatever. It's like, it's not racist to say, I want to live in a neighborhood of people who think like me and talk like me and are like me, right? That's just a normal neighborhood. But this idea that we're going to flood the country
Starting point is 01:15:34 with people that are just totally different and all of it's going to happen, millions of people spilling across the border in a very short span into these cities, into these towns, you know, this is how you get like, and they send so many of them to Midwest, by the way, they send so many quote unquote refugees from all of these different conflicts around to the Midwest.
Starting point is 01:15:54 And it's like, why, why do we need to do this stuff? Why couldn't there, you know, is this foreign policy? No, it's a systemic plan to break down the United States and turn us into this consumer market. I like to do this thought experiment. I have some questions for you, Jack, and for whoever else. The idea is you're in the middle of the woods. You're lost.
Starting point is 01:16:17 You've been there for a week. You don't know which way is up. You're hundreds or thousands of miles from civilization. You've retained a small amount of food and water that you carry on your waist. You have a rifle with, let's just say you've got a, you know, a 5.56 and you've got 10 rounds remaining. And you don't know where you are and you don't know when you will find a town. And let's just say it's post-apocalyptic. Let's just say that civilization is mostly gone and you're a wanderer. And as you're walking through the woods, wondering where you're going to go or how you're going to get to safety, in the distance, you see a man who
Starting point is 01:16:54 looks just like you. He also has the exact same rifle. He also appears to have very similar food hanging from his belt and water. And as you're lost in the woods and starving or i should say with limited resources you see this person let's say they're 100 yards away what do you do see cover your concealment sure you yeah you'd want to you'd want to hide out and make sure the dude isn't you know a threat all right, so you duck behind a tree. Find some kind of cover. Find some kind of cover. So let's say you take, there's a knocked over tree,
Starting point is 01:17:32 you crouch down behind it. He does the exact same thing. He's staring at you now. What do you do? Honestly, I mean, I'd never really thought of it, to be honest with you. At some point you'd have to try to make contact. So you yell to him? I call out to him, see thought of it to be honest. At some point you'd have to try to make contact. So you yell to him?
Starting point is 01:17:45 You call out to him, see if he speaks the same language. He doesn't, he yells back something incomprehensible. Totally incomprehensible. Completely, you don't know what language it is. 90 degrees. What you're doing here is you're getting into this concept of reciprocity. So if I've approached this person, I go to hide,
Starting point is 01:17:59 they go to hide, that shows potentially they're not willing to be aggressive just yet. They're not overtly aggressive. If I respond with language, even if it's not, you know, a verbal, you know, a verbal attempt at communication, they respond to verbal attempt communication. That's, this is, this is how you build a normal relationship. So you yell out, hello there or something. He yells back, Excuse me?
Starting point is 01:18:24 Are you going to be Zavant and Bowie me right now? What do you do next? You're to be right now what do you do next you're crouched behind what do you do honest question like what would you guys do in this scenario now well you would see number one if there's a guy who has anything you need in a second you would your post apocalyptic
Starting point is 01:18:39 break contact if you're post apocalyptic break contact and move away because the worst thing you can do is get into a situation where you get into a gunfight you either try to trade or if possible that's number one if not possible then you look for
Starting point is 01:18:56 break contact or you see if that person, if you can overpower them and so the point of this is the thought experiment is to get an individual to consider to actually think about what they would do in this scenario because there's no right answer at all there there is no planned outcome for what this story is that i present you i'm not here trying to trick you into thinking something's gonna happen i'm literally asking
Starting point is 01:19:19 to consider what you would do if you encountered the scenario it's entirely possible this individual is thinking if i don't get more food, I will die. I don't know this guy. I can't talk to him. He might try and steal from me. So there's a million different variables. I mean, you might, I've had so many people and typically liberals, like whenever I ask a liberal this question, they go, I would raise my hands and start walking towards. And I go, no, no question.
Starting point is 01:19:44 I'm like, bang, you're dead. Yeah. He walks over and he takes your gun. He takes your ammo. He takes your food. towards. And I go, bang. Oh, no, no question. I'm like, bang, you're dead. Yeah. He walks over and he takes your gun. He takes your ammo. He takes your food. Yeah. And then he walks away. Of course.
Starting point is 01:19:50 And they're like, why would he do that? I'm like, because he doesn't want to die. He doesn't know you. He can't communicate with you. And you're armed. Well, I put my gun down. Bang, you're dead. Oh, you put your gun down.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Okay, now he walks up, takes all your food, takes your gun, takes your ammo, and leaves you there to die. You mean his gun? You mean his gun. Yeah, his gun. Yeah, his gun. Or it's entirely possible you walk up with your hands up and he slings his gun back, keeps his hands up.
Starting point is 01:20:14 You walk over, you shake hands and then you hug finding somebody. It's entirely possible. And then you try and communicate, figure out what language it is. And maybe you can work together. So we don't know what happens. But the reality is, if you don't know the challenges, you bring it up reciprocity reciprocity is an excellent point if there's any word that i need to introduce to conservatives to moderates to libertarians to centrists to all of these people it is reciprocity that is the only way that we can get out of this when you take cover this person now perceives a level of aggression
Starting point is 01:20:40 why are you taking cover that's a defensive stance combat has been engaged what do they do they say i'll take cover as well and so it's very possible that unintentionally this drives escalation into a shootout it might because now you're you that guy takes cover too and you see he's got a gun and you're thinking like if i try to get up and run for it he might shoot me in the back so So what do you do? Well, I mean, you do. It's not easy. I would personally like if you got a guy that's got a gun, like in my opinion, you break contact and you do your best to get away from them without, you know, you don't turn around. You don't take your eyes off and you move away because the risk of an engagement is far greater than the reward of maybe a sandwich the guy might have.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Because obviously he just went to... You didn't say you were starving. You said starving. But I meant like you're hungry. You have limited provisions. It's post-apocalyptic. You know, you're wandering through the forest. The point is, like in modern civilization, this is not something we need to consider.
Starting point is 01:21:42 If you're walking through the woods and you're lost in the woods, you say, help me, please. And the guy's going to go, who's there? And you're going to say woods and you're lost in the woods you say help me please and the guy's gonna go who's there and you're gonna say i've been lost in the woods oh my let me call the 9-1-1 that's actually where ian was for a couple when he was when he was off off the show he was just he was just wandering through the woods no he found his way out he followed the moss and the trees to find his way north it was a trail of trail of bodies that if you're if you're post-apocalyptic you know cuts kill you cuts get infections and you die so that's that's like the wrong mushroom so like if you you talk to anybody that's like survival
Starting point is 01:22:11 stuff or whatever if you're in a situation where you don't know someone and and there's a possibility of some kind of engagement you avoid the hell out of the engagement because you don't want to get into a fight best way let me just wait you could have a bad situation not be there in the first place let me just let me just present it this way uh you guys question for all you how many people do you know that you would consider friends who at one point betrayed you in some very serious way oh yeah or i should say i currently consider let me let me say have you in your life at any point had someone you consider to be a close friend betray you in a serious way? Yeah. No. You've never had that happen.
Starting point is 01:22:47 You've never been betrayed. You've also never been arrested. So, you know, very sheltered Ian, I guess. Lived a good life. I mean, yeah, I don't think I really. I certainly have. And considering that there are people that you know that you trusted who betrayed you in some very serious way. How could you even begin to trust a stranger who shakes your hand?
Starting point is 01:23:05 Well, isn't there's a there's a story that this is how uh the handshake was i'm sure you know no weapon that came out of that if i'm going to shake your hand it's actually so that i can show my forearm and show that i don't have some kind of shake it shake the rope your right hand metal in there that's your dominant hand that's like your fighting hand so the idea is that and then and even the older handshake was like, I'm actually going to grip the forearm, like feel for a blade in their sleeve and stuff like that. You know,
Starting point is 01:23:31 we were earlier, you were talking about what people would do to disturb. This is a little bit of a side, but it's tagging onto what you were saying before we go into this cool metaphor about being in the woods, which I like is that how you, how would you disrupt a society of reason? And you were saying you bring in people that were,
Starting point is 01:23:43 don't speak the language that override the economics, but another way to disrupt a system of reason and you were saying you bring in people that were don't speak the language that override the the economics but another way to disrupt a system of reason is to tell them they're all going to fail to make them think they're all going to lose to say it's just going to get worse and then those people give up so i don't want to become that guy and i don't want any of us to become they abandon ship yeah every man for himself you keep saying over and over again it's impossible we can't win. And then people say, well, then I better just abandon and only do my thing. Like I'm gonna go dig a hole and go hide in it
Starting point is 01:24:12 because we can't win. If we build networks, build community, build physical locations, that's why we're like with Casper, we're like, we gotta have this physical location. We gotta do live shows. We have to do monthly events. We have to do the Saturday morning events.
Starting point is 01:24:23 We need people to come together so they do not feel hopeless. Yes. Yeah. This is, this is, this is actually one of the key. So we, we talk about we have a whole section on in there called that we call the great men of history. And you know, there's, there's like some very spicy stuff that we get into with, we get into Julius Caesar and Francisco Franco and get into Rangel and, and, but then we even get into in the modern times, like Elon Musk and really just men of means, right? So you re-infiltrate the institutions
Starting point is 01:24:53 or like what Elon did with Twitter, which is obviously in a regular counter revolution, if you will, in purchasing it. And then he started labeling journalists and NPR and NPR rage quits, right? So these are all counter-revolutionary actions. But the idea that men of means, men of will, forming networks, building new institutions, counter institutions, these are all absolutely clear because then you will find those like-minded individuals. And it's those small groups of people historically speaking it's
Starting point is 01:25:26 been predominantly men but we'll we'll see maybe we can let some of the ladies in um that have driven history that have absolutely these were strong men surrounded by strong men that is always how you end these things you either nip it in the bud uh so you don't have to get to the point where and i don't think we will will in like a civil war type situation. It's going to continue to be this low level, irregular revolution that continues. Yes, there'll be skirmishes, but it's going to be these multiple micro revolutions
Starting point is 01:25:56 that are conducted again and again and again. And the only way to fight it back against them is to have these networks and your counter institutions built up. The only way. Parallel economy, download parallel economy download yes funny tv shows for kids that's why as this great philosophy i was talking to a friend of mine in miami books tv what's it yeah like brave books you find a bunch of people that have similar political beliefs you come together and then you start doing things that are completely apolitical because with these people that
Starting point is 01:26:22 you know you can trust and you build like music with just for the kids can love you make tv shows everybody right now this is a 20 you grow crops you do gardening you do all sorts of cool stuff because you know that as those things become popular with the apolitical people they're going to look to who built that i want to be like that guy what are his i want to adopt his beliefs and here's the best part. With the likes of Public Square, did you know that there's going to be, and probably already are, a lot of businesses signing up for Public Square, not because they care about America, but because they see a path to get rich. Yeah. Critical mass. That's critical mass.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Exactly. When the grifters are like, yes, I love America. America is great. Buy my cheese. Welcome. Thank you. Yeah, patriot cheese. Yep. And so I see all Petriot cheese. Yep.
Starting point is 01:27:05 And so I see all these businesses that start signing up. We want to get to the point. And I think we're there because we talked about this a couple weeks ago with these TikTokers who keep making these videos where Biden is bad. They go, my life is miserable. I can't afford rent. It's not fair. Biden ruined the economy. Boom.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Four million views. Then you find out this woman's married, has eight cats and lives in a two bedroom apartment. And you're like, huh? And she just went on vacation. You're like, that's not true. But these grifters realize if I'm on the side, if I'm on this side, I'll get views, I'll get traffic. What that does is that's the critical mass where apolitical grifters are espousing your message for you for nefarious reasons. But that means the tide has shifted where the NPCs have abandoned wokeness as a means to make money. So what you're talking about is, and we talk about this as well, it's the viable competing vision. So communism is very good at this, by the way. Communism, Phil, you know, communism portrays the utopia. They talk about how everything's free, how everything's going to be. They're obsessed with this. It's a really good marketing pitch, but that's of course all it is. It is a marketing pitch. They don't actually believe it.
Starting point is 01:28:09 And so I kind of like, I cringe every time I see conservatives and like the IDW types and the center left and classic liberals, you know, kind of arguing, well, this is why this won't work. And this is why they don't actually believe it. All right. They just want to get to the killing, robbing and stealing part. You know, they want to just lock up landlords and go after Donald Trump and all these different things. It's well, we haven't really talked about Trump like at all tonight, but anyway, exactly. And the, the idea that, you know, that they believe in their utopia is silly too, but at the same time, you can't just sit there and say, oh, their utopia will never work if you're not actually describing your own vision and we're talking when we talk about the
Starting point is 01:28:49 counter vision it's it's you've got to overshadow what they're talking about you've got to talk it's got to be political it's got to be social that's where the music comes in it's got to be economic it's got to be media based where everybody can participate in this thing and we are starting to see that we really are starting to see that with all of these different franchises but i think the right or whatever you want to call the competition to this this irregular revolution is we need to depict that vision much much better it's actually something that i've sent i've sent this message to the Trump campaign
Starting point is 01:29:25 and said that, you know, I think that at this point, you know how he ends his rallies and it's sort of that like downward and they have like the cinematic music and the violence come out and it's really sad. I think that made sense during the primary, but I think they should start shifting it to an uplifting message at the end that ties in with this.
Starting point is 01:29:41 What we need are gym bros. Lots of gym bros. That's right's right continue i'll tell you why get jacked get well no no no uh you should get jacked but the reason why we need gym bros is that when you get what what does the left say on the right you have this work hard clean your room bucko lift the heaviest goes, no, no, don't do none of that. Jerk off, play video games, eat ice cream. And what's the short term easy thing? However, there's a lot of people, men and women who do these things. They're unhappy. What we need is that enthusiastic trope of the gym bro who goes up to that scrawny guy and goes looking good dude you're killing it come hang out with me and the boys and we're gonna get you ripped i i recommend uh one of my favorite
Starting point is 01:30:29 like bits of fiction is mob psycho 100 have you guys ever heard of that no it was a web comic they made an anime but the main character is this scrawny weak little kid but he's got tremendous psychic powers and so he joins the the body modification like body transformation club and they're all super ripped and all these guys who are massive and like really strong are rooting and cheering for him they're like wow you did it you did a push-up they're like yeah and they're high-fiving him and i'm like that's what i'm talking about when there's some dude who feels weak and inadequate you get those dudes who look and not it's not just about guys. You get people who are leaders, who are successful, who have accomplished it,
Starting point is 01:31:08 who tell you, my friend, you're going to be cool like us. You're going to be strong and you're going to be beautiful and we're going to help you do it and we're going to cheer you on the whole way. That's so important. The cheer you on part is so important.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Motivation. Was it? Motivation. Yeah. Who do you want to hang out with? The left, they're mean all the time you can't make jokes you can't have fun they say it's fine that you're obese and and don't be mad
Starting point is 01:31:31 about it but people are still unhappy when they're like i wish i wasn't like this if you got the dude who was like really really fit when what i always tell people is i can't speak for gyms and i use the gym bro as a generic trope but i can can tell you in skateboarding, typically, if you don't skate and you go to a skate park and you see a group of kids hanging out and you, and you want to skate and let's, let's say your mass, you're fat, you're fat, you're out of shape. You walk up and say, guys, I decided to change my life. I bought a skateboard. They're going to be like, bro, let me show you everything I can teach. They're going to high five you. They're going to cheer for you. You're going to be, you're going to be charioted around. They're going to gonna be like this is what we're talking about
Starting point is 01:32:07 dudes love to share their skills and knowledge that's this is totally the one of us mean one of us one of us one of us like that is totally what dudes do like when you've got dudes hanging out that are like look that have the same kind of goals going going to the gym, being the best they can. PRs, which is another wonderful thing about going to the gym. PRs, right? Personal records. It's personal. It's all about beating the last time you were there, being the best you. Not about competing with the guys that are stronger than you
Starting point is 01:32:38 or competing with the guys that are weaker than you. You're competing with yourself, and everybody's going to cheer you on when you're going for it. I always love music and acting because of that. Because the better you are, the better the people around you become. And so really, you're going to look like probably the weakest link of this amazing band or scene because you're listening and you're empowering the people around you. So it's not even a competition, but it's like a community building experience.
Starting point is 01:32:59 I can only assume for gyms, because I'm not a gym bro, but I can say for skateboarding, and i assume it's the same if you are a newcomer you can you you can lift the smallest weight but it's your record they're going to be cheering for you sean strickland literally just posted something about this the other day um where i'll have to paraphrase it because i can't pull it right now but he said something about how his one of his favorite days when he's in the gym is when he sees somebody walking and he can tell it's their first day in the gym yeah yep and he's like i look for that guy and i love that guy because you know what we were all that guy this this could be you yep you've never worked out you want to get better so you walk into the gym and you're like where do
Starting point is 01:33:39 i start and sean strickland walks up with a smile on his face and gives you a high five and goes bro you're the man. Greatest feeling in the world. Now, I bring that up because that's how you counter the left's hatred and envy and jealousy. They tell you to steal it. They say you deserve it. It's yours. Just take it.
Starting point is 01:33:55 But what we need is that positive. Join us. Be confident. Be cool. Be powerful. Be yourself. That's what we need. Oh, God, that's so great to hear, man.
Starting point is 01:34:05 So it's right. So there's two pieces to this, right? So because there's- I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You'd never leave the gym if Sean Strickland welcomed you on your first day. You'd be like, you'd be a glowing or- You'd be like, oh my gosh,
Starting point is 01:34:16 I can hang out with Sean Strickland, right? You know, we can mean tweet together. Although I can't mean tweet because I gave up mean tweeting for Lent. Yeah. And that includes on-air appearances. Easter's the 31st this year, isn't it? It's just coming up, yes.
Starting point is 01:34:27 So, come on. You can write the tweets for later. Just don't put them out. No, that's a cop-out. You can't trick God. I'm not saying that. God knows the tweets are there. He sees it.
Starting point is 01:34:39 God has a sense of humor. I guarantee God loves me tweets. I know, I know. But it would not truly be a sacrifice if I was still loves me tweets I know, I know, but it would not truly be a sacrifice if I was still writing the tweets it would be funny if on the 31st just all of these out of context tweets just flooded
Starting point is 01:34:53 I had a whole conversation with him yo let him rip Jack I was chatting with that guy Still Boneless on Twitter about it and he suggested that and I was like, what if I could time them and then save it in traffic and I was like, and he suggested that. And I was like, what if I could like time them and then save it and try? And I was like, no, no, it's a cop out.
Starting point is 01:35:09 You can't trick God. You can't trick God. No, you're not allowed. But that's what I'm saying though. It's those two things, right? So you've got like your right wing, right? You've got your left wing and then you've got your normies.
Starting point is 01:35:21 So you've got your normies. These are all the people that are kind of in the middle that are just like pliable or don't even want to be involved at the culture wars, except that the people on the left keep coming for them and I want to, I'm trying to be inclusive in opening or whatever. And that you need to, you need to number one, provide this competing vision, this alternate hopeful vision that it's like, and that this is what I was saying to Trump campaign. I was like, we can all get rich. We can all get healthy again. We can make America amazing. It's going to be this really cool country. We're going to be futuristic. We're going to have new cities, new architecture. Everybody's going to love it.
Starting point is 01:36:09 But then at the same time, in order to stop the revolutionaries, you do have to actively stop them. Like it's not enough to simply oppose communism. You must be actively anti-communist. And if you don't stop them, they will not stop on their own. We're going to go to, we're going to go to super to super chats if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends head over to timcast.com click join us to become a member and support our work directly don't forget casper coffee is available it's the
Starting point is 01:36:35 weekend so we do not have the members only show tonight but we're going to be filming and producing all throughout the weekend for the boonies show we got a bunch of fun stuff planned and then of course we're back on monday but let's get to your super chats clint torres says howdy people hey clint the bonus soul says we are honored to announce that we are number what is that 77,159 on the trans transphobe list that dropped earlier we're truly humbled to be among the list of great transphobes of our generation despite our band's tiny following what number 77,000 yeah have you looked this up me and you were on there. No, I know.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Who made it? What is it? I don't know. Apparently, it's just everybody that's ever said anything that a trans person didn't like because there's 77,000 people or more. But is it ranked? No, I don't think.
Starting point is 01:37:17 I think it's alphabetical. Oh. Yeah, it's alphabetical. Because if I'm not in the top 10, then I'm going to be tri-art. There was like 3, I was at like 2,500 and I was still in the A's. I'm like There was like, there was like three, I was at like 2,500 and I was still in the A's.
Starting point is 01:37:26 I'm like, this is long. Cause like, I think, I think it was Brookings a year ago did, you know, the biggest misinformation
Starting point is 01:37:32 outlets in America. And I was like only number five and I was so upset. I was like, come on. So close. Maybe next year. I don't think,
Starting point is 01:37:39 when they did that misinformation election thing. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was like number 13. Nice. No, actually I was offended by that because it's the craziest thing where I don't care if you were actively saying Trump won, Germany, Dominion, whatever it was. But I never said those things.
Starting point is 01:37:58 You literally argued with people about those things. I argued with Bannon twice. And I was like, ballot harvesting, ballot harvesting, ballot harvesting. And then, which is legal. And then they put me on this list they run these stories and it was wild because when google gemini came out apparently someone asked it and it said tim pool is a known blah blah and i'm like that's i was like can i sue google for defamation for saying things like this it truly is i think you're the guy that it would be so convenient for people if you were like it just an guy that it would be so convenient for people if you were like it just an evil guy it would be so convenient because you wear all black you get you
Starting point is 01:38:29 let your emotions come out like but you're a good person so like it drives them insane like i see you do or at least neutral but i feel you like neutral and good like you you on the upper end of the and i think what they don't see is that i'm probably the most humble person on the internet no i am you can't be my humility dude it can't be your humility all right we'll grab some more uh raymond g stanley jr says smash that buy pillow like button i haven't said anything about the sleep accessory word this evening but of course we all know the greatest promo code is promo code poso powerful promo code poso my pillow.com for the best night's sleep in the whole wide world the authentic hydro says so hear me out if you hire candace like pbd hired cuomo you can bring her on whenever someone
Starting point is 01:39:13 wants to talk about israel palestine so you don't have to bother with it that's true i just there's no way we could afford to hire candace owens she's gonna she's gonna make i don't know man she's gonna make 50 million bucks she wants her new company i hope candace does more documentaries and docuseries i don't know if you know how many people have done this i've actually watched all of her documentaries and docuseries and i think they're fantastic they're absolutely fantastic her george floyd one which you know was really overshadowed by all the kanye stuff excuse me yay we don't like the dead name around here uh was it was just incredible it was really overshadowed by all the Kanye stuff. Excuse me, Ye, we don't like the dead name around here. It was just incredible.
Starting point is 01:39:47 It was really incredible. The unmaking of a murderer was incredible. I think when she does those personally, I love them. OMG Puppies says, I stopped following the Daily Wire. They removed user comments a few months ago. Ben has gone full neoconservative on Ukraine. It's all he talks about now. Really?
Starting point is 01:40:07 We added, so over at scnr.com if you're reading the news there we uh bill uh ottman created a commenting system through minds which is really cool so uh because we wanted comments to be like public we wanted to be like a networked thing where when you comment it can it contributes to a larger conversation elsewhere cool stuff cool yeah is it like i kind of feel like ben has always been pretty fairly hawkish it contributes to a larger conversation elsewhere. Cool stuff. Cool. Yeah. Is it like, I kind of feel like Ben has always been pretty fairly hawkish, certainly not a dove. So the idea that he's like gone full is kind of like,
Starting point is 01:40:35 well, he's been called neocon forever. Yeah. Like he's, he's always been like, you know, comfortable with, with, with a muscular United States foreign policy.
Starting point is 01:40:43 If we're going to be polite about it clint torres says phil go to the gym clint i did this morning i will be there tomorrow morning as well oh yeah my thing is like uh you know there's a lot of people ragging on candace they're calling her anti-semitic or whatever and i'm like you're allowed to have opinions uh they say ben shapiro is hawkish he's a conservative he's allowed to have opinions the only issue i take is when someone posts things something that's like wrong. They're lying for power, which is typical of the left. So it's like I'll certainly disagree with Candace.
Starting point is 01:41:12 I'll certainly disagree with Ben. But that's fine. We get along in disagreeing on issues but agreeing on the things that are happening in this world and moral frameworks. And then you have the left, which lie about what's happening while trying to enact horribly amoral or or immoral things i mean just point to the cover that's right basically like this is this is where you get when you allow those people in power this is where you get every time tyler mcfarland says have you seen the video of the guy with Neuralink using it to play Civilization 6 yeah
Starting point is 01:41:45 he said he played 8 hours all night he could before he couldn't play for 10-15 minutes because he'd have to have his parents there
Starting point is 01:41:51 he's quadriplegic to move around and he'd have to have his body shifted every once in a while but now he just said he could lay in bed and play 8 hours
Starting point is 01:41:57 with his brain that's crazy like using the mouse I think he just uses his thoughts he uses his thoughts to move the cursor to move the stuff around
Starting point is 01:42:04 yeah and it's moving really quick and like I saw i saw i saw only a piece where he played chess it was moving really fast i didn't see a cursor i just saw the pieces moving wow great and i mean and it's it's going to get more impressive this i mean what was it just last year is when they first started you know doing the stuff with uh with humans i guess if i understand well uh uh brain to mouse interface has been around for a long time but i think this is just like opening the door into a greater neural link technology so uh we bought an electroencephalogram in like 2012
Starting point is 01:42:37 that can track two brain waves which you could put on your head you don't got to wire anything you put it on and you can control uh two vectors so that should be enough to move a mouse yeah left right up down easily yeah you could move a mouse with that you should get some more of those get some get some new ones like we were gonna order one yeah um because the new ones can do up to like 16 different brain waves i suppose the issue is using brain waves to control something is very different from directly wiring it into your brain which is probably substantially easier because you're actually sending signals from your brain
Starting point is 01:43:12 and actively controlling the mouse whereas with the brain waves is you're trying to figure out how to make your brain emit certain brain waves which cause the mouse it's a little different but theoretically with the modern EEG you could fly a drone with a headband. Our Discord chat says he made his first tweet today using that system.
Starting point is 01:43:29 Whoa. Using Neuralink? Yeah, that's what he says. He's Neuralinked in? I wonder how he did it. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense. X and Neuralink. A guy on the Discord said that this guy did his first tweet today.
Starting point is 01:43:39 Oh, wow. Well, the thing to pay attention to is when right capabilities. So right now, what we're seeing is read capabilities. The computer is able to read the signal from the brain. But when the computer is able to write to the brain, that's when the door opens to people are going to say, bro, I guarantee you. If Elon Musk came out right now and said, I'd like to make a deal with all the liberals. I'm going to give you a neural link which will put you into the Harry Potter universe and you just don't have to don't vote. They'd be like, sign me up. I'm done. Lock me in. Put put the bug bug juice in my mouth. And I will lay in the Matrix pod for the rest of my life if I could physically just live in Harry Potter world.
Starting point is 01:44:22 They do it. But the leftists wouldn't. They would. No, the left, because this is my thesis though. The leftist would still be upset that there were people out there not living in the Harry Potter world. Yeah, they'd be happy. That's true. They would be, look, leftists are really, really pissed off
Starting point is 01:44:36 that there are people out there that are happy without their opinions. Happy, successful, good looking, talented. Because again, they are not any of those things. Literally, it's not like it's supposed to be some kind of knock. The perspective of I'm a victim and everything's oppressing me, blah, blah, blah,
Starting point is 01:44:56 and the world's out to get me and my body's a prison, blah, blah, blah. All that stuff is cluster B personality traits. This is inevitable. What'll happen is the ease of which the implant for a Neuralink will escalate as technology develops. Only some people will have it. No one will think much about it. They'll be like, oh, it's just for some people.
Starting point is 01:45:16 But then some guy is going to be like, well, you know, I can easily run my company now that I have Neuralink because when I plug in my mobile device directly to my Neuralink, I don't have to bother with, like, I just know when I get a message. So it's almost like telepathy. And people are going to be like, yeah, well, you know, I don't want to do that. I'm not going to do that. But then this guy is going to start hiring. And someone's going to be like, I also got the mobile networking Neuralink. And he's like, oh, great, you're hired. It'll grow to the point where you won't have one.
Starting point is 01:45:44 You'll apply for a job. And they'll say, and what's your mobile Neuralink interface number? And you'll go, I don't, you're hired. It'll grow to the point where you won't have one. You'll apply for a job and they'll say, and what's your mobile Neuralink interface number? And you'll go, I don't have one of those. And they'll go, well, how do I get in touch with you? And you say, well, you can call me on my phone. We don't have phones. What year are you living in? And dude, the thing is like,
Starting point is 01:45:58 once you get that kind of like connectivity, it's completely reasonable to think that a a motivated person that actually will will actually do their job like they want to their productivity goes up by 75 100 150 percent and then why would a company hire someone that wouldn't do that well then your brain gets hacked i was just gonna say it i, what happens when hackers get involved? Bro, I was hackers go in and they start, they start changing your algorithm. They start removing or replacing memories or inserting memories.
Starting point is 01:46:33 I was, I was talking to, I was talking to Rolo today about this, about like when I first came down here, like why I was so psyched to be like a part of the things, because I really believe that like cognitive liberty is up for grabs in the next 50 to 100 years we don't even have laws that get close to defining any of that so at black hat and defcon 10 years ago they were running uh uh talks lectures on hacking
Starting point is 01:46:59 uh people's pacemakers and their insulin pumps and they were talking about how because these things are wirelessly controlled or bluetooth bluetooth controlled especially a pacemaker inside your body an attacker could get the signal for the device and then turn it off so there could be a guy with pacemaker walk i just boom right to the ground dead hacker did it crazy i could see him making it so you think that they change your brain so you think meat tastes gross yes they did that in mass to people no they've already we definitely talked about this Crazy. I could see them making it so you think that they change your brain so you think meat tastes gross. Like they did that in mass to people. No, we definitely talked about this.
Starting point is 01:47:29 They're gonna hand you a plate of jiggly roach paste and you're gonna go, what is the, oh, I forgot to turn the neural link on. You're gonna go like this. These tannins are delicious. No, it's gonna turn into a steak. And then it's gonna be- I'm so excited for this.
Starting point is 01:47:44 And then the crazy thing is you will see people eating different things than you well this is this is referenced in the in the matrix right how do you know what a steak really takes like like augmented the robots didn't know so that's why everything tastes like chicken right you're they're going to be like don't worry he's thinking about it i was thinking about augmented reality and the neural net and how they'll work you had a really good stay no how how will the augmented reality connect and collide with neural net i mean because if the neural net if you're just seeing it anyway but that's like pre-hack dude watch ghost in the shell yeah when you're gonna say watch ghostbusters so when we did the
Starting point is 01:48:20 uh together again the music video we had a a can't uh we had an homage to Ghost in the Shell. When Carter hits the hack button or whatever to blow up the drone, the alien drone or whatever it is. The laughing man, it's a smiley face with like a baseball cap. In Ghost in the Shell, there's a hacker. Whenever someone looks at him, all they see is this weird avatar floating over his face so they can't see what his face is. So then they're like, quick, pull quick pull the surveillance cameras and then when they do the surveillance cameras show the exact same thing because people's brains are cyberized with nanites the person sends out a signal and then you can't see his face yeah self-assembling
Starting point is 01:48:57 nanobots is another thing these and that's a real tech that's been around since 2018 at least let's grab some more super chats james hates everything says russia has been attacked by chechen islamic terrorists several times attacked grade school and theater no conspiracy needed agreed that's why it's like that was the first thing we said right the beslan massacre and the moscow theater yeah all right tech rue says i was in a safety meeting a few weeks ago and it suddenly occurred to me wouldn't graphene reinforced concrete and asphalt just become the next asbestos no i don't think so it uh it enhances the strength by about three times when you put bulk graphene and i think concrete and i'm not i'm not really sure that graphene is a is a
Starting point is 01:49:42 carcinogen is it it's just carbon isn't it it's pure yeah it's pure carbon and it uh it's it's um stabilized so it doesn't like fall out into the atmosphere and stuff but it's you know it might rub off on your skin and then you get a little bit of carbon in your body it's not necessarily it's a lot of it's untested graphene oxide's another thing completely it's like rusted graphene basically oxidative that might do other stuff um all right jason dixon says seriously looking forward to seeing how tim spins this into cops are bad god save jack poso he has chosen to lead us back to the lord god you see but i set you up that's why i asked you guys do you think the cops will go around arresting people because i think it's unfair to accuse me of being uh uniquely holding of that opinion when it's an opinion
Starting point is 01:50:21 formed by other people who i've had conversations with plainly yes jack will lead you to god and it's very absolutely just go to latin mass just everyone just go to latin mass just go there just go there and experience it and try it and and and you'll you'll be there i was saying this on the uh culture war if you go to church you will be happier yes and uh the reason why i said that because i know know a lot of, I say these things like this to immediately do the shock of the statement, but it's not about faith. It's not about church. It's about community.
Starting point is 01:50:54 It's about if you have people around you who are wondering where you are and want you to be there with them, it may be that one day a family member dies and you're really sad. Well, you wallow at home doing nothing. But if you're a regular at church, your community will say, hey, this is weird. Bill's not here today. Can someone go check on him? All of these things add up. You have people who are there for you, who are concerned about you, who care about you. Some people who might not like you all that much, but with a high density of individuals who expect your company, it is the, is the act of being involved in community and having neighbors, which will typically lead to a greater level of happiness and support.
Starting point is 01:51:32 That's why I just say simply church because church historically has been that for us. We don't have that now. That being said, community in general makes you happier. So you can find that in many ways. But it's, it's because we've lost so many third spaces in society today that, um, it's, it's hard to find any of those that aren't work or home. And so church actually does exist as a kind of third space for people of really any age to go and exhibit in because the third space is literally just like, where did you used to go to hang out?
Starting point is 01:52:08 But all of the places that we used to hang out have been systemically removed. Yeah, I often tell the story about how I met up with Seamus when he was going to Latin mass in Charles, I think it's a Latin mass in Charlestown. And just to see all the neighbors hanging out, all the parents are talking, all the kids are playing, the kids are finally dressed,
Starting point is 01:52:27 wearing button-ups, and I'm like, look, man, you can't deny it, okay? Kids who are properly dressed and playing games with their parents nearby and the neighbors are communicating is an infinitely greater boon than what we see today
Starting point is 01:52:40 with kids going out and getting in trouble, parents don't know who their neighbors are, don't know where their kids are at, and I'm i'm like i'm not saying this is an inherently faith based statement i'm saying quite literally as a function what church does is something we need and again there you need to build a third space as jack was so this is this is this is a great example of what you can say that a lot of people will get, we'll get hung up on whether or not you can prove God is real or not. But one thing that might be a bit more powerful and bring more people in is if you say God is essential,
Starting point is 01:53:15 that none of this works without that shared understanding of a God, man. I keep thinking about subatomic spinners. You know what those are they spin up there's these fermions and bosons that create matter like protons and neutrons and electrons depending on their subatomic spin and i just visualize trillions of them all spinning in succession and i feel like that's like god pulsing it's just one perspective of what it is i was i was reading about deism and there was some component of it that i thought was interesting i don't know enough about it but i i there was something about people believing that there is a natural religion
Starting point is 01:53:49 that was lost or something that effect like the natural connection to god yeah was lost by humanity and twisted by politicians and grifters and con artists and i agree with that but i don't know what deist philosophy is pretending that but I do think that intrinsically humans would have a connection to God were it not for the forces that try to pull them away from God. Well, and so in Christianity, of course, it's so like there's the, you know, the more Buddhist belief is that, you know, we're all sort of connected and we're all spiritual creatures. And that's that's one side. And there's the other side that we're just these, you know, we're all sort of connected and we're all spiritual creatures and that's, that's one side. And there's the other side that we're just these, you know, we're wet robots, the wet robots, we're beasts and we're just a little bit smarter than, you know, the animals,
Starting point is 01:54:33 but that's all the, the only distinction. But then there's in Christianity, it's this middle ground and Norm Macdonald of all people talked about this once where it's like, we, we have a spark of the divine, but because of original sin, we've been made wretched. And so we've been sort of cut off from our being able to tap into that divinity. And so through the mediator, through Christ, it's like this doorway back to
Starting point is 01:55:03 what we were originally intended to be. So it's like, you were originally intended to be a spiritual being, a being with this direct divinity, but something went wrong and now we're stuck in this current state and to get out of it, this is the door you go through. It's funny you said the current state, because I think electricity is actually dampening our ability to connect with God. It's like this, it's causing magnetic interference. And it's the current, you're saying this current thing that we're in,
Starting point is 01:55:28 it is current. It's this current. And it's so useful for the human animal to use, but the spirit is like getting sucked into the screen. And so how do you coordinate, how do you calibrate your spiritual frequency to be on the proper current? But what if it's the fluoride calcifying pineal gland
Starting point is 01:55:45 so we can no longer sense in the choroid plexus well here's what i was saying uh and i don't mean this quite literally but it is kind of interesting that people who live in rural areas tend to be more spiritual believe in god and they live off well water which has low fluoride content people who live in cities are detached from god and have high fluoride content and those people in the woods they don't have power lines as much like i know i'm kidding i'm not saying it's true i'm just saying it's funny yeah you can go to you can go to countries where people live in cities are very connected to god all right we'll grab some more super chats what do we got here ghost crusaders says tim is a former property manager in new york city this happens
Starting point is 01:56:19 100 of the time and the cops don't even ask for proof. Boom. As long as the other person says they can prove they do nothing, they don't want to get involved. And then we have, where were we just? Did I just lose a super chat? Where did it go? It disappeared. How does that happen? It's gone.
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Starting point is 01:56:48 It's up everywhere. Dude, I want a copy. Buy a book. Can you sign that? No, I'm not going to sign it. Give it to me? But not for you. I want it.
Starting point is 01:56:54 No, this is my promotional tool. Jason Dixon says, Tim, math. Several hundred thousands of interactions with cops each month, but the 12 bad incidents over the last 10 years mean all are bad. Followed by, Tim, as a former property manager in new york city this happens 100 of the time and the cops don't even ask for proof as long as they the other person says they can prove they do nothing they don't want to get involved so uh there you go ghost crusaders answered for you jason but my my my contention on that is because he said he was new york city right
Starting point is 01:57:24 yeah that guy so because he was and that's what phil's that is because he said he was in New York City, right? Yeah. That guy. So because he was, and that's what Phil's talking about, because he knows that the people in charge of city government are completely infiltrated by communists, or in many cases, just avowed open communists themselves. And they know that if they get involved, then they're going to be the ones under scrutiny. So it's, again, them following. And to your point, i'm not arguing the
Starting point is 01:57:45 morality of of the point you're making that they could walk off the job and not not fulfill that order but what their order is coming they could just not do it they could literally stay on the job yeah and then the then the squatter writes down their bill or writes down their uh you know the badge number and then goes to the city and makes it a file as a complaint against them but that's just you don't lose your job they just say what happened is be like oh a guy was breaking he broke there's a break and we removed him i don't know we charged him with burglary and then you have you know benjamin crump shows up and he's suing the city and he's going after you so you have choices the police have choices they can enforce burglary laws they can say leave me out of it, or they can quit.
Starting point is 01:58:26 But it's not against the law in New York. And not against the law to break into someone's house? Squatting. But the issue is, if you can't prove it, you're not a squatter. You're a burglar. The way that it's, again, it comes down to the enforcement and the ability to- And it is the fault of the landlord, too, because, like, the homeowner says, these guys changed the locks and claim they live here.
Starting point is 01:58:45 And the cop goes, okay, bye. If she said, help, these men broke into my house, it'd be a different story. What I'm also saying though, is there's an incentive structure that's set up here. And the incentive structure for that officer is going to be to follow the path that's laid out for them. So if the path on this way is, I know if I mess with the squatter,
Starting point is 01:59:06 that the I'm going to have the entire city coming after me or worse, then they're not going to do that. And this is the same way that we saw you want to talk about non enforcing laws. The reason the homicide rate went went up after George Floyd was because of police sitting home. And you're right, the selective enforcement, they stopped going after violent criminals. Look what happened in every single major city in america except for baltimore because in baltimore it already happened jason dixon says tim tim voted for these dems these laws then cries i mean i don't know why you said that last time too because that's just not
Starting point is 01:59:39 true like i voted one time in 2008 for the for the first time and then went wow these people are liars so then i did not vote at all until 2020 when i voted down to get republican like so what was the point of saying that i think i voted all right jill stein in 2016 i didn't vote 2016 or 2012 i said these people are liars uh liam garner last super chat he says i understand people's reservations about neural link but i'm 29 an incomplete paraplegic and professional firefighter i got hurt on the job and I'm counting the seconds till motion control phase because I need to get back to work.
Starting point is 02:00:09 Not a job. It's who you are. Yes. Agreed. That's awesome. And that's the whole point to do Neuralink. Just that alone makes the risks of having Neuralink and stuff like that makes the risk worth it.
Starting point is 02:00:23 I don't think anyone opposes Neuralink for anyone who's in those situations. I wouldn't say anyone. That's in those situations. Okay, fair enough. But I think there are people who have a healthy skepticism of how it will 100% be abused. And when people like this get control of Neuralink technology, bad things are going to happen. By this, it's not the super chatter. You mean the people in the book that you're writing about?
Starting point is 02:00:45 I'm pointing to the book, if anyone's on the audio side. Yo, to the guy, if you've ever had spinal injury, in Rice University, they figured out how to regrow the spines of mice that had had their spines severed by inserting graphene nanothreads, these ribbons that meet together, and then the spine regrows along the threads. They severed a mouse's spine within like 21 days. It was almost back to complete normal. So that's upcoming technology to regrow spinal activity keep your eyes on that stuff out of rice university jim tour is the scientist that's pioneering that one last thing real quick uh where is it uh right here last we chat uh phalluson says there's an update with the
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Starting point is 02:03:27 Have a great weekend. Love yourself and your neighbors. Take care of yourself this weekend. Drink a lot of water. Drink water tonight and go to the bathroom when you feel it. Just let it out. Your body doesn't know. Your body, just let your body.
Starting point is 02:03:38 Follow your body. Your body doesn't know why you wouldn't. You know, it doesn't have a mind. You just gotta, when it has to go, just let it go. You'll feel better. I hope my toddlers aren't listening to that because we've been trying to potty train your parents. The one is good,
Starting point is 02:03:49 but not so much the other one. Uh, yeah, I don't know how to end up that. Uh, thanks y'all. Uh, enjoy the weekend.
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