Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #990 White House Says Baltimore Bridge Collapse NOT AN ATTACK, ITS NOT WW3 w/Texas Lindsay

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

Tim, Phil, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Texas Lindsay to discuss a major bridge in Baltimore collapsing after a ship slammed into it, Trump's Truth Social app skyrocketing in value, Jon Stewart roastin...g Kevin O'Leary for defending Trump, and RFK Jr naming Nicole Shanahan as his VP running mate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Baltimore Bridge Collapse. I'm sure most of you heard what happened. This is massive news. One of the largest ports in the country is now shut down after a major cargo ship smashed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, destroying the bridge, presumably killing several people, and basically shutting down one of the largest ports in the country. Now, rumors are flying. Spe flying speculation that it was related to diversity hires who don't know how to drive. That's maybe, but I don't know. Unless we get some evidence on that one. I don't know. Many people are suggesting it was a cyber attack due to many anomalies that occurred, considering this is a rare event and we're currently in a bunch of
Starting point is 00:00:42 active conflict, especially with, you know, Iran, the Red Sea, you've got China, Taiwan, you've got Russia and Ukraine. Plus Russia's claiming that Western intelligence was involved in the Moscow attack in some way. So maybe not, maybe, maybe not. The White House is saying it was not terror. There's no indication it was intentional, but of course, rumors and speculation still flies. And I just got to tell you, I believe the initial hypothesis should be malintent, not accident. We should be investigating malintent because if it's an accident, accidents happen. And we don't really have to do much if it was an accident other than, you know, clean things up and make sure it doesn't happen again. But either way, this is going to have massive economic implications for the rest of the country. Already shipments are being delayed.
Starting point is 00:01:24 People are being told their energy and imports won't be arriving for obvious reasons. They'll have to divert those shipments. So we'll talk about that. Plus, Donald Trump just got a billion dollars richer and the wall got 10 feet higher. DJT stocks are live and they spiked at around $79 today.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Dropped back down to about $59. And you got these people coming out being like, don't buy it. Don't buy it. I'm warning you. Stay away gotta tell you you know this is the on the five on fox news they're debating the value of the stock and i'm like it's not the stock that people are buying it's shares of trump himself he is truth social you want to follow him he is creating shares in him as a personality and i think trump supporters are going to drive that stock to the moon because they want to hold a piece of it. It supports Donald Trump. They can retain that piece
Starting point is 00:02:09 and Trump gets wealthier and he can use that money pending a waiver to sell stock or take a loan against it to fund his campaign. So we'll talk about that plus a bunch of other stuff. Jon Stewart's ragging on Trump
Starting point is 00:02:19 claiming that Letitia James knew he committed fraud because when it came time to pay taxes, he paid a lower amount, which proves he was lying. The funny thing about that is tax assessment for buildings is done by the city, not by the individual. So John Stewart clearly has no idea what he's talking about. But I found the receipts.
Starting point is 00:02:36 John Stewart sold a property in New York in 2014 for $17.5 million, despite the fact the assessed value was 1.8. And John Stewart knew that this property was worth way more, but only paid taxes on $740,000. Now, something's not right there, Jon. We'll talk about that, the hypocrisy, and Letitia James. Before we get started, head over to CastBrew.com. We sponsor ourselves. It's our coffee company.
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Starting point is 00:04:19 weirdos. Smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else texas lindsey hi thanks so much for having me who are you what do you do um well my real name is lindsey jones um i go by texas lindsey on um twitter now x um i'm getting tired of saying it that way but on x um a lot of people think that um i that to be anonymous, but that's not why. It's because when your name is Lindsay Jones, it's like the female of John Smith's. So I had to pick something a little bit unique.
Starting point is 00:04:53 And that's what I went with. But I am a journalist. I helped with the Twitter files. And now I'm doing freelance work for the non-satirical side of the Babylon Bee, for not the Bee Outlet. Right on. Thanks for hanging out. It should be Right on. Thanks for hanging out. It should be fun. We got Phil hanging out.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. What's going on? Hi, Phil. How you doing?
Starting point is 00:05:15 I'm Hannah Glow-Rimlow. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. I'm happy to be back tonight. Serge is here, too. I am here. What's up, y'all? Let's start the show. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Here's the first story. For those who missed it, I assume most of you know this, but we have this video right here. The Maryland Francis Scott Key Bridge collapsed after being struck by a container ship slamming right into one of its central support columns, destroying the whole thing. Six construction workers are presumed dead. Rescue efforts have been called off. This is breaking news. The big question is, how does this happen? So here you can see aerial footage from the morning.
Starting point is 00:05:53 What I think, let's play this video real quick to give you a step-by-step. You can see it. It's actually kind of small. I don't know if it's, here you go. You'll notice, I'll pause the video. Actually, I can't pause the video, but keep an eye on the the ship you see the lights actually turned off already they turned back on and now the lights on the ship are going to shut off again there's a lot of speculation about why this ship there you go lights go off heading straight for the central support you can see all the cars that appears to
Starting point is 00:06:20 be some kind of tractor trailer driving across right now. This was around 1.30 in the morning today. And that truck driver right there, very lucky. You can see these work vehicles, not so lucky. And we're a few seconds out before this thing finally slams. And you can see the lights have turned back on. It side swipes the support column, knocking the entire bridge to the ground. Now here are a few more cars passing across. I do think that these cars make it safely across. swipes the support column, knocking the entire bridge to the ground. Now here are a few more cars passing across.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I do think that these cars make it safely across. I'm not sure. It's hard to know if they make it through. Let's see. Yeah, okay. So I'm pretty sure when it came to who fell, it was the construction workers. So big vessel, forced perspective.
Starting point is 00:07:08 We're watching very slowly this replay replay footage so any second now and there it goes it is side swiping the air there it is so for those that are just listening we're just watching this bridge collapse this is crazy this is it has just created an artificial barrier into the uh uh into baltimore port, one of the largest ports in the country, affecting trade massively. Now, I watched this assessment by this guy who's got a YouTube channel about shipping. And he says, you know, basically, it's moving forward. The engines cut off. They drop the port side anchor, which causes it to shift and steer right into that support column. The question is, as the White House says, it's not terrorism.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And there's no indication it was intentional. How does an accident like this happen? Well, according to the Postmillennial, the ship that struck the bridge was involved in 2016 crash and had deficiencies. Perhaps that's the reason. I got to say, I think we should operate under the idea that it was an attack, an intentional cyber attack, manipulating the control systems and the engines of the ship itself. And it would not be a very difficult thing to do. There have been numerous researchers who have published studies on the security of these large container vessels and how to manipulate them.
Starting point is 00:08:20 It's entirely possible. I'd say, you know, simple know simple solution is you know these these crashes happen they've happened in the past they'll happen again so maybe that's it but considering we're in active war as much as they might they don't want to admit it and this wasn't just a crash this shuts down one of our largest ports i think it's fair to question whether or not there was a cyber attack on the united states and and operating under that assumption would keep us safer but I'm curious what you guys think I don't think that that uh to presume that it's a cyber attack is a bad idea for the government and to be honest with you considering the fact that the government has contingency plans for just about everything like every eventuality that you could possibly come up with um I assume
Starting point is 00:09:03 that the government is probably looking in if they you know is probably looking into this or at least into the possibility just because that's what the government does i don't think it's i don't think it's i think for the people that are going to say oh it's ridiculous to even speculate blah blah blah like the government has plans for literally everything so so i'm sure that they are there are people looking to see if there was a cyber attack as for like the ramifications i mean mean, clearly it's going to be a gigantic mess forever. Or not forever, but for a long time because the government's not going to clean it up fast. Well, that means one of our major ports is shuttered.
Starting point is 00:09:36 That's the biggest part. In my opinion, that's the biggest thing that's going on is the effect on the economy, the fact that the whole port's shut down, and what it's going to mean for gas prices, because you're starting to get into the spring the springtime travel seasons coming and stuff. That's going to that's going to be a it's going to have a big, big effect downstream for the economy. So we have this from the Baltimore banner. They say, no, it's not World War Three. Experts say bridge collapse, almost certainly not planned attack.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Almost. And here's what I love. Here's what i love here's what i love it's a tweet from alex jones that says something like looks deliberate uh like a cyber attack is probable world war three has already started and it says fake okay i just i just love this as soon as i saw this i was like okay now i think it's a cyber attack because alex jones saying this looks like it could have been a cyber attack and they go that's a fake tweet no it's not it's his opinion on what he thinks may have happened just because experts come out and say it was it was an accident and not intentional doesn't mean you're not allowed to opine or that your opinion is fake my opinion
Starting point is 00:10:39 is i don't trust the government and maybe it was a cyber attack how is it a fake opinion it's a real opinion it could be wrong the idea well the only the concept of cyber attack that you're not saying that like the united states government attacked it's like there are constantly cyber attacks like all the time and it's it's like what you would consider friendly nations testing other friendly nations the idea of a a of cyber espionage in court in the corporate world that is that isn't far-fetched that that's common it happens every chance that a company gets like my ex-wife is insecure works in cyber security for a uh shout out to phil's ex-wife no i please don't do that um she just fired me tonight uh maybe anyways uh but the point is like there's there is a whole field of cyber security
Starting point is 00:11:24 for in corporate you know in of cybersecurity in the corporate world. So the idea that it couldn't be a cyber attack, I mean, by a state or whatever, the idea that it couldn't be is the actual far-fetched idea. And the ship had flags from Singapore, right? So it's not like, I don't know. I feel like this could be a complicated geopolitical situation. Why would we rule anything out? Like at what point,
Starting point is 00:11:49 why do we know so quickly that it wasn't a terror attack? I don't know. I just, it's just because that's what, that's just the narrative they want to put out there. Well, it's just because it's, it's literally just because I admit I'm opposite.
Starting point is 00:11:59 You know, it's the opposite of what, of, of what, you know, Alex Jones said, it's the, the,
Starting point is 00:12:04 the, the, the people that are politically incorrect or whatever are saying it so we're going to take the opposite and you saw this happen significantly during covet and we still see it there are still people that walk around wearing masks and you know that it's not because there's a significant uh protection that mask is offering it's because they're making a a political statement or an ideological statement so it's it's very normal for them for people to be like alex jones said it oh he's crazy and he's wrong blah blah without putting any thought into whether or not cyber attacks are actually common or not and it's clear considering the energy and effort that the united
Starting point is 00:12:41 states got all governments and all big corporations the amount of money they spend in defending against cyber attacks to say that it wouldn't be a cyber attack, that's ridiculous. So one assessment that I watched says the whole thing goes dark, engines shut down. Then they drop the port side anchor. I don't know if any of this is true. Causing it to
Starting point is 00:13:00 steer right into the support column. Why would they do that? Many people because of that are arguing it must be DEI. Because they had a local crew navigating out of the port. That's usually what they do. And then they transport the person off before it heads on its way. I think it was going to Sri Lanka or something. So the power goes out.
Starting point is 00:13:18 So they drop anchor, forcing the ship to go right into the support column. I mean... I don't know anything about steering a big ship like that at all so but it but it does it does steer right into the come so uh these are just a handful of people claiming on the internet they have you know running different channels saying if it just the power went out and they did nothing it would have kept going straight it would have gone straight underneath the bridge and just left they forced it to shift and steer into the uh into the support column why so maybe cyber attack you know uh i don't know how uh would it affect navigation systems or uh that somehow negatively impact or sabotage the uh electrical systems but i mean no idea
Starting point is 00:14:04 think about it like this like if the power goes out it could be that the computers have to boot up somehow negatively impact or sabotage the uh electrical systems but i mean no idea think about it like this like if the power goes out it could be that the computers have to boot up that's what i was wondering when the lights go out and again like i don't know i don't know guys all i know about this moment i was like boats you're done right boats crazy stuff but you know there was this moment when the lights go on that that recording where i'm like do they are they trying to, like, reboot a system on the computer? They have to shut everything down. And in doing so. The generator, the emergency backup generator comes on.
Starting point is 00:14:32 So it just takes a minute for that to turn on. So it's not like they're trying to reboot it themselves. It automatically comes on when they lose power. So I don't know. There's another take on this by an ethical skeptic who looked into it and then checked into the wind directions and the tide currents to see what direction that he did it at 5 a.m. this morning, too. And he goes, well, basically, this was like a perfect storm of events with the full moon and the way the wind pulled and the currents pulled. He said, I don't think this is deliberate so he kind of did his analysis then he said alright I'm going back to bed and posted that
Starting point is 00:15:09 but it was a good point to factor in all these you know natural factors that you're not even thinking of when you're looking at the anchor drop. It's the only time that someone bringing up the moon and I'm like maybe that actually does matter. Well the moon affects the tide. Exactly. Otherwise always your moon in gemini or something hold on hold on
Starting point is 00:15:28 everybody right now when you're talking to a loved one and they say oh it's not a conspiracy it was an accident you go no it was the moon the moon did it i'm telling you and they'll be like what like no it's a tide and then they'll go oh you're right it was the moon it does make me wonder like if we only we could have a time machine if a. If Alex Jones had actually tweeted that this was an accident, if the Baltimore Banner headline would say, no, this was a deliberate attack, I would love to know how that would play out. If it's always going to be hard line, whatever, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:57 this, you know, one side of the debate. Right. It was politicized immediately. I just want to know what happened with this anchor. There's a malfunction on the ship and the anchor drops. Or does someone press a button and the anchor drops? I just don't know enough about boats. I came unprepared to IRL.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I was not expecting to see an anchor drop. I used to sail competitively. And I can tell you an anchor dropping does not immediately stop your boat. It's got to catch on to something. It's got to sink. Which is why you see that slow drift, right? But I've never been on a boat that size before what did somebody say it was like three million eighty thousand tons or something like that i i this morning i reached i tweeted a a thread by i don't know who it is cyber gibbons is the name like like you would spell it um and i'm retweeting
Starting point is 00:16:41 it now and it's a he goes through um what he saw and he does a good layout of how the how ships that big work how the the different uh voltage on different engines that they have to use i guess they have to use multiple engines to start the main engine and stuff but he goes through a big list of it i just retweeted if anyone is interested you can take a look at it but it it does sound like it to me it sounds like one i don't know what caused the power to go out but once the power was out it was doomed as soon as the power went off right in the beginning yeah it was not to slam into a to a support column what i'm saying is they couldn't they couldn't get it back it was it was drifting and they couldn't they didn't have the ability and it's moving at a fast pace because of the
Starting point is 00:17:19 weight too so yeah but it's not going to turn something turned those currents at like a harbor are going to be so intense. And that's why you have a harbor pilot that actually drives it. They live there and study that just to make that passage. How is this possible? How is this possible? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. How come there are no large barriers protecting central support columns for bridges that cost tens of millions of dollars and took five years to build and whose destruction could disable one of the largest ports?
Starting point is 00:17:49 How is there no large barrier and one of the only uh roadways that allows hazardous material materials like you can't take hazardous materials from what i've read today um anywhere else that has the tunnels that go through maryland or baltimore they have to take this route now they can't so it's gonna how was how am i supposed to hear all of this and then think anything other than it was an intentional intentional in some way? Well, who's going to benefit from these routes being Russia, China? But we who was at the helm of the ship was do you think it was Singaporean, Singaporean? No, it was a local harbor crew, but it's a Singaporean ship. Well, you know, it could be a cyber attack but i just think that you
Starting point is 00:18:26 i think you have to have proof of that or at least be seeking proof to sure let's play occam's razor then uh this ship driver slipped on a banana peel spun in circles and headed directly for the one part of the one of two parts of this bridge that would destroy and disable one of the largest ports in america or we're at war and our enemies have been cyber attacking us relentlessly in the news already there are numerous reports of chinese cyber attacks on the united states so the sim the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions is we are at war with russia russia targets a ship disables the the largest port in America versus a perfect storm of weather, tides, an ill-prepared crew, a random power out, two random power outages,
Starting point is 00:19:14 and a dropped anchor at the most inopportune time, causing it to shift perfectly to the central support column of a bridge that collapses, killing people, disabling hazmat transportation, and shutting down one of the largest ports in this country okay by all means that may be the explanation but the simple solution right now is our port was attacked you know by the moon but that's that's see that's the crazy one it's like well you know the moon was there and the tide was here and the wind was blowing in this direction look man when when it comes to 9-11 what what like we were attacked that's the simple solution but they knew immediately that we were attacked and they knew exactly who did it within hours like that was the craziest thing so that was like all that this is my point fast but no but it's not come out at all about who's no no no
Starting point is 00:19:58 because because of politics my point is when it came to 9-11 there was no question of pilot error, perfect storm, planes had been veered off course. No, they knew exactly who did it, how they did it, why it was done instantly. So here we are. And they're not the same circumstances. I get it. They're very, very different. If there were two boats, I think we'd know. If there were two bridges and two boats that have been hit, then we would absolutely be my point is simply intentional act makes least makes the least
Starting point is 00:20:27 amount of assumptions than the perfect storm of accidents disabling one of our largest ports like i it's a strong coincidence that while the u.s was just accused by i shouldn't say the u.s but western intelligence was just accused of aiding these terrorists in moscow well a day later they're not just accused. Victoria Nuland's departure speech bragged about what's going to come and how she had a present for Putin. And then it happened. So perfect.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Fine. Vladimir Putin comes out, admitted it and warned. And then it happened. So which is which is completely my point. Vladimir Putin says you guys attacked us. And so now we have to make a bunch of assumptions. Putin has not retaliated against us. China is not aiding and abetting or taking any concerns here. Venezuela, Iran, North Korea, none of our none of our enemies have any interest right now in targeting ships to
Starting point is 00:21:16 disable a bridge. That's that's an assumption. Maybe the attacks are happening somewhere else. They're attacking our southern border, sending drugs and criminals and stuff. Then this ship lost power at the worst time, dropped anchor, causing it to spin. Then the power kicked back on and kicked off, slamming into the one of the central support columns, knocking out this bridge, disabling one of the largest ports and our hazmat transport for the East Coast. I just think while both are entirely possible, the simple solution is we were attacked. Do you think it would be better for biden if it
Starting point is 00:21:47 was attacked or worse because my thought is here if it were an attack you'd be like i'm gonna rally support we're gonna go after these guys but by admitting that it was an attack he's admitting that we're weak you know what i mean like what spin would be the biden administration i gotta be honest i mean like biden's whole campaign that was, is we're weak. It very well may be just an accident. Totally fine. Accidents do happen. I'm not suggesting I have any evidence that it is cybertech. I'm saying it would be simpler to assume it was a cybertech. Now, as to why the U.S. would deny it, to be completely honest, I can make up 50 million reasons why they would or would not want to deny it. It's just really about whether you think one may be true or not. That being said, if it's coming to say like the art of war, you want to win the war before
Starting point is 00:22:29 it starts. The U.S., China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, the BRICS nations, the NATO countries, they want to align their chessboard in the appropriate places before they begin trading pieces. So they want to know that they've actually set the board for victory before the hot war kicks off. That could be a disadvantage to force your enemy into declaration of a hot war, which shifts the priorities of a nation or causes the president to lose. If Joe Biden comes out, and this is all hypothetical because there's a million one arguments.
Starting point is 00:22:59 This is not the case. I think it's fair. I can make any argument. Joe Biden comes out and says this was retaliation by Russia for our direct involvement with the Ukrainians and what Victoria Nuland said in supporting terror attacks in Russia. His approval ratings dropped to one. Instantly, everyone says you did this. You triggered this. I really don't see a scenario in which Joe Biden comes out and says we were we are under attack and people go, yay, Joe Biden, great leader. No, they say, get him out. This proves everything we've said about this guy being completely incompetent. Donald Trump goes on TV and says this is not could not be tolerated. Our country
Starting point is 00:23:36 being attacked. Joe Biden caused this. So there's really good reasons for them to be like, no, no, just an accident, just an accident. But again, I'll stress. We have no idea. We literally have no idea. It's really just going to be whether you decide to or accident just an accident but again i'll stress we have no idea we literally have no idea it's really just going to be whether you decide to or not but i will i will stress when that article came out and was like this is a fake tweet i have the tweet pulled up here it is alex jones says looks deliberate to me a cyber attack is probable world war three has already started quote tweeting andrew tate who said this ship was cyber attacked. Lights go off and it deliberately steers towards the bridge supports. Foreign agents of the U.S. attacked digital infrastructures. Nothing is safe.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Black Swan event imminent. Ron Paul has been warning about a Black Swan event. We've been concerned about the potential for cyber attacks. We have numerous stories right now in international media of the U.S. and the U.K. furious that China keeps launching cyber attacks against it. Then this happens. They go, no, no, no, no, no. Ignore everything that's been in the news so far.
Starting point is 00:24:32 This was an accident. And it was just a perfect storm of tides, wind, the moon position, a bad, poorly trained crew dropping anchor at the wrong time where the power went out abruptly for some unknown reason. And then caused the ship to steer right into support support comm knocking out a bridge disabling one of the largest ports in the country i just i just find that really difficult you know what i mean i think in this case both both people are wrong you have the paper that's wrong andrew tapen's wrong because they're both saying that this is he's not right and the the newspaper is saying um that this is absolutely not true and he's that this is absolutely not true and he's saying this is absolutely not an accident. So the absolute problem is where you have the issue
Starting point is 00:25:11 because yes, it could be a cyber attack. Yes, it could just be an accident, but automatically trying to fact check and shut down and silence what one person says or discredit them and hurt their character for saying something. But he didn't word it right. You shouldn't. He doesn't have proof that it was a cyber attack.
Starting point is 00:25:29 We have a super chat. Corey Anderson said that he's been in the military for 19 years. He says, if I was a terrorist, I'd take out a tunnel. Not. No. Look, I disagree. If you are a terrorist, perhaps. Sure.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Because you're trying to target civilians and disrupt civilian life and morale. If you are a military, if you are a foreign foreign adversary you're looking at ways to stop an economy shutting down a large port is war tactics 101 the union forces in the civil war blockaded southern ports to strangle them out this is war 101 disable the port well that's why i'm like because that now the hazardous materials can't go across that bridge. Now they have to go through tunnels. They have to get a permit to go through tunnels. They'll go north and around Baltimore. Baltimore, somebody from one of the Baltimore officials today said they'll just have to get a permit that take a few weeks in order to go through the tunnels in Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:26:18 A lot of trucks will probably just divert around Baltimore, adding a lot of friction to the transport process. 81's going to get crazy. Oh, dude. I mean, this is bad mean this is bad for us too because we used bwi which is right by the bridge and so that means traffic's gonna get backed up and it's gonna be brutal plus uh there's big shopping areas over there it's gonna get cluttered and it's already super cluttered but there's look you can make the argument cory uh i think it's a fair argument yes they would be targeting tunnels and civilians. Unless the goal of a foreign actor is disabling infrastructure, which, I mean, I got to be honest. Do you want to attack civilians, which rallies public support against you, or could shock a system? I mean, maybe.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Or do you want to take out your enemy's ability to drive their car? You know what I mean? It's like, what do you choose to do if you're trying to win a war do you scare people disable the the internal routes of a city or remove the entire opportunity for them to bring trade in i don't know i don't know uh again i'll stress i got no idea i got no idea it's all it's all wild speculation but uh i suppose we'll just uh let's see what do we what do we have? I got a bunch of stories about this. I think we already covered most of it. Engineers raising questions about the support of the bridge, why there were no barriers there.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I think that's fairly obvious. So I guess we'll just we'll jump to the next story. I think we have it here. Let's talk about Donald Trump. Truth social parent company shares skyrocket during market debut triggering trading pause the jump was so big it opened at 49.95 and quickly jumped to 72 before 10 30 a.m we have this from yahoo it's currently sitting at close at about 58 bucks 57.99 we saw the peak was around i believe it was 70 what do we have 77 dollars or was a little higher
Starting point is 00:28:05 than that about 77 dollars so currently now sitting just shy of 60 bucks looks like donald trump just made about another billion dollars uh this story i think is one of the most important stories in u.s history donald trump has and i can't believe it's not been done before, but I guess with the rise of the special purpose acquisition company, the SPAC, you're buying shares of Trump himself. So you can buy shares of Trump's company. I'm not saying you should. I'm saying you, when you went, you know, on Fox news today, there's that liberal, and I don't know her name, but she was like, it's not worth it.
Starting point is 00:28:40 The company, there's no way the stock is worth it. Nobody cares. Trump supporters are buying shares of Donald Trump and they're not going to sell them if someone tries to short uh do like an institutional short against djt all trump supporters are going to start buying up and holding yep and they're going to shut down these institutes institutions that try to attack the trump stock meaning the likelihood based on the trump fervor his support base is upward trajectory i don't see why the stock would go down trump supporters who are buying it and driving it high aren't the ones who sold it was probably retail investors who bought into it
Starting point is 00:29:17 decided to cash out but trump supporters are buying and holding this means that trump can fund his campaign off of this stock he's made himself one of the wealthiest people top 500 wealthiest people in the country i don't this is kind of wild imagine this is actually one of the krasenstein's bought this brought this up and i am equally concerned about this let's say china starts buying a bunch of shares driving the price skyrocketing trump then sells a bunch of the shares cashes out a cool billion dollars and funds his campaign off of it this is going to allow foreign actors to directly support presidential candidates so i don't know how everyone feels about that all i know is this is
Starting point is 00:29:54 a major historical moment watching this and uh it's it's good for donald trump yeah i mean it's definitely good for donald trump there there's you know, the problem of his bail and bond kind of goes away. We've talked about this last night. It should be, in theory, it should be easy to be able to find someone to loan you the money against that kind of stock. You know, that's what Musk did to fund his purchase of X or Twitter or whatever you want to call it. So, you know, it's good for his wallet and i don't fund his campaign off yeah you know i mean i i think that that as long as it's not illegal i don't know campaign finance laws i don't know what kind of uh laws surrounded but
Starting point is 00:30:37 if there is any law that he even approaches breaking there is going to be a da frothing at the mouth ready to to to issue charges or on him you know so trump could jaywalk right now and they'd give him jail time for it yep they're gonna be like well you know it is a petty infraction that normally gets a ticket but but when you did it jail for life yeah i'll go with 30 days for jaywalking. 30 days. And that's really horrible. We talk about the ramifications of this kind of abuse of government on essentially just an American citizen. It's unprecedented, and it's definitely set the tone for the way that people feel about new york entirely look you know going into the city for for my band playing in the city is tough because you've got you know your bus and you got trailers
Starting point is 00:31:32 and you got parking and it's it's a pain in the butt i can't imagine and there's all you know there's all kinds of fees and stuff that you have to pay just to get your your vehicle in and stuff there was a time where they were talking about you have to can't bring your bus in you have to pay just to get your vehicle in and stuff. There was a time where they were talking about you can't bring your bus in. You have to drive in in vans and stuff. So it's always been weird and a pain in the butt. I can't imagine what it's like for a large company to try to build a building there. It's got to be a nightmare. And then with the government, the state government saying,
Starting point is 00:32:02 look, we're going gonna attack this political person attack this person over politics we don't like you know kevin leary is it o'leary or kevin leary o'leary yeah he is going on a mission right now oh is he doing more please tell me more he's just going on every media it's the full media circuit okay and every interview just going off and screaming at the top of his lungs like this is this is not america you don't do this this is destroying everything and he's like i i'm about to go raise three billion dollars to build a new data center he goes and i won't build it in new york because nobody will everybody keeps asking me all around the world what is going on in new york and he's
Starting point is 00:32:37 like well i just trust me it's it's this is not normal it's not the case he's like but we've got to do something about this it's got to beed. It is making everybody nervous to spend money in this state and city that O'Leary loves, but he will not spend another dime there. It's a bad investment right now. It's horrible. Nobody wants to put that kind of money up with that risk on the line. It's just not worth it. It's scary. Yeah. And another thing that people don't't i think your average person doesn't think about very frequently is when you're dealing with you know loans and and the the amount of money the the large sums they're talking about like one and
Starting point is 00:33:15 two percent of billions of dollars is a whole lot of money that people are not okay with just watching you know evaporate it's like you might be like well i can i can go ahead and deal with you know two and a half points on my you know or 0.25 points on my my loan or whatever but those same two point you know 0.25 loan points on a on something at a billion dollars or whatever that people aren't making people aren't messing around with that kind of money so if there's any kind of risk, the first rule of investing is preserve your capital. So reportedly, Truth Social loses $49 million over the same period makes somewhere around $3 or $4 million.
Starting point is 00:33:57 So the argument, plainly from a lot of people, is there's no way this stock has anywhere near this value, especially when you look at other larger companies that generate a healthy profit that don't have a stock value of this high but this is what's scary to me is that it doesn't matter if the stock makes money at all it doesn't matter if the trump supporters want to buy it they do the corporation or trump could sell these shares to fans and use that capital to finance the platform. This is activist investing, funding a company, investing in it,
Starting point is 00:34:36 not because of its success as a business, but because of its ideological importance to the people who are buying it. Right. I wish we could see the number of first-time stock buyers right now who are like, I don't care about any of this, but I am getting the stock. GameStop 2.0. But this is a political version of it instead of a board at home trying to learn how to invest. This is a scary future. If people started shorting this or there was some kind of, you know, the same kind of drama that the GameStop people were involved in there with this, It would definitely be obviously very, very good for Trump. It would bankrupt any institution that tries.
Starting point is 00:35:10 So the Krasnoyans were like, this is going to be, there's going to be major short positions against DJT. There's no way it's worth this. And I'm like, oh no, there won't be. If you were a bank and you try and short this and you get Donald Trump's base, which they say has a solid 40 40 to 44 percent every single
Starting point is 00:35:27 one of trump supporters will just start buying the shares to screw over anyone who tried to screw over trump and you will bankrupt your institution yeah and as a side note i think it's hilarious this uh this little uh stock situation is is a clear uh it's clear destruction of the labor theory of valis of of uh value so marxist or btfo people if people are willing to pay you know premium just because a premium price just because it says donald trump on it don't tell me that the and they are sets the dude sold nfts and he sold them out i was a little little surprised he didn't debut at $45. Like I get $49.99, but $45 is his presidential number. I didn't know how gimmicky we were going to go with stocks.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I love that he sold NFTs as trading cards so that way boomers would buy them. And they sold out? Yes, I know. It's great. I love it. But here's the reality is a lot of these people don't care. They're just donating to donald trump because he asked yeah and and i don't i don't think anybody thought like this donald trump astronaut card is gonna make me a cool million bucks they're just like
Starting point is 00:36:32 i'll buy it i'll help trump out those are the same people that got two bottles of trump water from eldorado or from wherever they they brought one home to put on the mantle and then the other one they drank yeah they want to show their friends i mean it's the thing about trump is that he has such a strong base that really rallies around him they believe in what he symbolized for the country so they're willing to say like i'm gonna buy your stock i'm gonna buy your wine i'm i'm going to show up for you in ways that i wouldn't just for a random presidential candidate because he has turned this into something larger than just politics i uh when i was working at fusion you had the narrative from a lot of these anti-Trump people like, Oh, Trump's had all these bankruptcies. And there was one
Starting point is 00:37:09 story like, where's Trump steak? Where's Trump magazine? Where's Trump water. And you know, I Googled it and I was like, Oh, those are white label products for his, his golf resorts and hotels. So when you go to Trump Doral, you can read Trump magazine and you can get a Trump. I don't know if they still have it, but when I was there, I'm pretty sure they did. And so, certainly when I checked into my room, this is really funny because my assistant booked me a room at Trump Doral for some reason.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I was like, hey, I'm coming to the office. I need a hotel. And Trump Doral was right next to the fusion office. So they put me at a golf resort during the World Championship golf game. What year was this? 2014, I think. So this was like like that makes sense oh no no i think this was they would be averse to it now right this is 2015 or 16 actually because this is when trump was obviously 2014 was too early it was the end of 2014 when i started so
Starting point is 00:37:52 this is probably end of 2015 and so what do i see bottles of trump water so i took them and i brought them back to new york and i was like my friends here's your trump water and they're like what but we thought it doesn't exist Trump water. And they're like, what? But we thought it doesn't exist. And I'm like, they're at his buildings. He has his own bottle. Hotels have their own water. It's not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:38:12 He did just drop his own Bible today, too. Oh, wow. I mean, hey, more power to him. I could be wrong. What they put in the nightstands of hotels? Bibles. I'm surprised we didn't get here sooner. It's like the God bless America Trump Bible.
Starting point is 00:38:24 He really did. Just in time for easter i could be wrong but i think that the band corn bought a bus company so that way they would always have a bus available buses available which i mean and i and it could be that metallica did the same thing i think metallica owns like a lot of the production like they just start you start another company i mean i own two companies that run all that remains right so it's normal to be like all right well this entity does this and this entity does that and to just start your own business you know if you got something like trump like donald trump who's got the funds to you know to be like okay maybe it's cheaper for me to go ahead and supply my my properties with with stuff if i own the company that just sends it yeah you know it makes sense so and then then you know in the trump magazine of course you're gonna be like
Starting point is 00:39:11 look you can get trump this and trump that because again people will be like look in my trump water it sits on my mantle next to my bible that i bought it trumped around it's my trump altar let's jump to this next story from Mediaite. Such an a-hole. Jon Stewart gives cutting takedown of Kevin O'Leary defending Trump fraud. Now, the story, my friends, here is not about Jon Stewart giving his opinion. I'm going to state for you, I believe I have caught Jon Stewart having committed serious real estate fraud. And I will show you the evidence in this segment because Jon Stewart argues that paying lower taxes on a building when you know it's worth more is fraud. And I have evidence John Stewart did just that.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Now I got to clarify because I am kidding. I don't know. I don't know exactly how much John Stewart paid in his taxes. I do know that he sold the property well above its tax assessed value, which his argument is undervaluing the property, which is fraud. He clearly has no idea what he's talking about, or he's intentionally lying about Donald Trump's fraud case. So here we go. So Kevin O'Leary, not just the co-host of Shark Tank, Jon Stewart's is an a-hole. Stewart opened Monday night's show, The Daily Show,
Starting point is 00:40:18 searing takedown of the conservative media's victimless crime defense that the business valuation fraud for which Trump has been found liable. The TDS host. Wow, that's actually pretty good. The Trump derangement syndrome host aimed at many targets during his monologue, but hit no one harder than O'Leary. Quote, the attorney general of New York knew that Trump's property values were inflated because when it when it came time to pay taxes, Trump undervalued the very same properties. It was all part of a very specific real estate practice known as lying okay and hold on there a minute so this is how leticia james knew that trump was committing fraud because when it came time to pay
Starting point is 00:40:59 taxes trump undervalued the properties okay for. For those that don't know, and I assume most of you do, but many don't, and I think it's fair if you don't, there's something called a tax assessed value and a market value. They are different.
Starting point is 00:41:14 A tax assessed value is what a local tax assessor from the government, they come to your property, they say, we think your property's worth this much, you gotta pay taxes based on what we think
Starting point is 00:41:20 your property's worth. Market value is determined by appraisers, or quite literally, by you, if you're saying, I won't sell my house for less than a million bucks, and they'll say, your property is worth. Market value is determined by appraisers or quite literally by you if you're saying, I won't sell my house for less than a million bucks and they'll say your house is worth 10 bucks.
Starting point is 00:41:29 It's a, I don't care. You want it, it's a million bucks. That's the value I'm giving it. Now, an appraiser will give you a general assessment based on the market and other comparable properties. So it's a fair determination based on comparable properties, not necessarily what you want to sell it for.
Starting point is 00:41:43 There is still a difference. Jon Stewart's making the argument that Kevin O'Leary is wrong, that Donald Trump committed fraud because he paid lower. He paid taxes on an undervaluing of the building instead of paying what its fair market value was. Let's not mince words from the New York Times. Jon Stewart sells Tribeca Penthouse for 17.5 million dollars. Wow.
Starting point is 00:42:05 This is from the New York Times, publicly available information on a major news website. A sophisticated penthouse at 161 Hudson Street, configured as a duplex loft with 2,000 square feet of outdoor options, nearly 6,000 square feet of interior space, sold for $17.5 million, and was the most expensive sale of the week, according to city records. The voluminous unit number 9A and 8B, with more than 40 windows providing exposures in three directions, has been owned since 2005 by the television pundit Jon Stewart, host of The Daily Show. Well, according to publicly available county records, January 5th, 2013, the tax assessed value of 161 Hudson Street, we have it right here,
Starting point is 00:42:42 estimated market value is $1.8 million, according to the government. Its actual assessed value is 847. And it's, I don't know what trans AV means, but they say, subject to adjustments, your 2013-2014 taxes will be based on $748,452. So let's use Jon Stewart's own argument against him. If he's paying taxes on a property he knew was worth substantially more tax fraud. Why didn't he go to the city and say, no, no, no, guys, guys, the real value of this is 17.5 million. I know what it's actually worth. If I were to pay you less, that would be fraud,
Starting point is 00:43:19 according to Jon Stewart's own arguments. Right now, here's the best part about Jon Stewart's argument, because the dude clearly has no idea what he's talking about. If the argument is that when Trump went to pay taxes for his business and argued that his business had underutilized space, therefore he's operating at a loss, so he's filing business taxes with a loss to write down how much profit he made, he would overvalue the properties, not undervalue them, showing that Jon Stewart either has no idea what he's talking about
Starting point is 00:43:50 or he's lying to manipulate people. But I'll break it down. If the argument was that Donald Trump committed fraud because he went to the banks and said, look at all the space we have. You can do X with this. You can do Y with it, which would set its market value closer to 100 million. Then he goes to the city and says, right now, the Texas value is, you know, is is one million. So I'm only going to pay taxes a little bit. That's property taxes.
Starting point is 00:44:15 The only potential argument you can make is that Trump was filing business taxes for his real estate company, cutting down how much profit he made by claiming he wasn't utilizing space properly. If that's the case, the real fraud would be arguing that your building that's only worth a hundred million is in fact worth 200 million. And then saying that this loft that we haven't sold should be renting out for a hundred thousand a month based on the $200 million value. And that's a $100,000 per month loss. So I should pay less in taxes. Arguing that Trump undervalues his property means, well, Jon Stewart's arguing that the city colluded with Donald Trump to drop his property taxes. While at the same time, I'll argue this. Jon
Starting point is 00:44:57 Stewart knew his property was worth $17.5 million. He was selling the thing. His tax assessment was only $700,000. The question is, did Jon Stewart pay taxes based on the $17 million value? Furthermore, if the city argues that Jon Stewart's building or his condo was only worth $1.8 million, I think Jon Stewart committed fraud by lying to the prospective buyers. You see, many people said, Tim, the buyers chose. This is a response I get on Twitter. Everyone's like, you don't understand how fraud works, Tim. The buyers choosing to buy the property for 17.5 million chose to do that market sale. It's different from getting a loan. So what they're arguing is if I trick someone into buying a fake
Starting point is 00:45:39 product or an overvalued product, it's not fraud by lying to them. Jon Stewart knew the real value of his property, according to the government, was $1.8 million. How dare he lie to a prospective buyer and claim it's worth more? That poor buyer bought the property and then went, oh no, we spent $17 million on this. We had to use Jon Stewart's value assessment to go get a loan from a bank, which is fraud, according to Lititia James. And now we're sitting on a property only worth one point eight million. John Stewart swindled them out of nearly 16 of over 16 million dollars, according to his own argument and according to Letitia James. So let's not play these stupid games because otherwise the moment Donald Trump gets in office, why doesn't he send the doj after them for playing this exact game there's my rant he should i think like i think that it's time to use the the government against your political enemies what if you're if your political enemies
Starting point is 00:46:36 have in any way there are some political parties already doing this yeah well i mean what i'm saying for the conservatives if there are laws that have been broken, there's no reason not to prosecute. Investigate and prosecute. This isn't a real law being broken. That's why. Well, I mean, I agree. The reality is and I was actually shocked by this. I pulled up Zillow and I was like, let's debunk Jon Stewart's ridiculous argument by going on Zillow dot com and showing you the sale price is different from the tax assessed price.
Starting point is 00:47:01 The government determines how much you pay. Not Trump. Trump, of course, is going to maximize his value. It's not fraud. What I found is crazy. There's $20 million lofts with a tax assessed value of $700,000. And I was like, how is that possible? You know, most houses. So I looked in Seattle, Washington at houses, $800,000 house tax assessed value, 500,000. Okay. Makes sense. You're selling it for 800. The government thinks it's worth 500. That's like fairly comparable. It's like almost John Stewart's property was worth $17 million and he was only paying taxes based on $748,000. Now that is some bull. And that's what they do
Starting point is 00:47:37 in New York because people would probably flee if property taxes were actually based upon the true value of these condos and these lofts john stewart played the game he knew the game and he's lying to the american people for political power because he's a scumbag yeah i mean if you look hard enough you can find anybody who's committed a crime at some point and i mean they even change laws um for trump in new york to go after him for that the rape accusationation. There was, it was outdated. She couldn't come forward and do that. And they said, well, we're just going to open up a window so that these claims can be filed
Starting point is 00:48:13 just so we can go after him for the crazy lady with the. EJ and Carol. Yes. EJ and Carol with the, I guess I can't even say her cat's name because it's. Not on this part of the internet. She's say her cat's name because it's not on this part of the internet. She's so crazy. I mean, it's just fun.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Yeah, she's in that job. So we look at this document. It takes a lot for a nut job to file a suit against a former president. That's how crazy it's gotten. New York has been taken over by communists. I agree. Literally. The people that are elected are communists.
Starting point is 00:48:42 You take a look at this assessment roll from 2013-14. They mentioned that property is assessed at the following uniform percentages of full market value. Class 1 is 6%. Class 2, 3, and 4 is 45%. This is building class R4. So I'm assuming the reason why he's paying based on $748,000 is it's a class 4 45%. But the estimated market value is only 1.8. How does New York operate this way? I mean, let's just be real. If the entirety,
Starting point is 00:49:10 the argument a lot of people have made against Trump is, oh, what? So because everyone's committing fraud, Trump should be allowed to do it. And I'm like, dude, if everyone's committing fraud and they all know how the machine operates, there's no fraud fraud it is just the rules fraud would be if i went to if i went to and said hey uh this rooster it's actually a uh a unique um ancient you know uh it's worth a million bucks and if i sold it to somebody that's fraud i lied to them about what it was so john stewart by his own argument should not be allowed to sell his property for what he did he should have had to go to them and say look it, it's a $1.8 million property. That's it.
Starting point is 00:49:48 But rules don't apply to Jon Stewart. Nor other Democrats. It's weird how if you're in the right party, you don't have to get prosecuted for things that conservatives definitely do have to face charges for. I'm noticing some sort of pattern. I do see them kind of going after the mayor of new york city though i think he spoke out of line one too many times and has become because of illegal immigration exactly yeah if you speak out they'll come for you too so nobody's really safe well i mean that's that's kind of typical of the left it's it's you know if you step out of line or you get canceled whether it be
Starting point is 00:50:20 you know support by people in your party or or if they're trying to kick you out of your job or whatever like that's a standard practice on the left that's that's been that way it's not a surprise and everybody that that has thrown their lot in with the left should understand that you are only as useful as the current thing is as soon as you step out of line, they will toss you under the bus. You can ask the radical feminists, the trans exclusionary radical feminists. Those are TERFs now and they are under the bus. They used to be the cutting edge of, you know, of feminist. Just a boring old woman.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Yeah. Too bad for you. Bring on the new women, the one with penises. I want to give a shout out to our good friend Brian Krasenstein for this tremendous display. On Twitter, I said, did Jon Stewart commit fraud when he sold his penthouse for $17.5 million? New York listed its market value at 1.8, etc., etc. You know the argument. Brian Krasenstein argued.
Starting point is 00:51:17 He responded, let me explain this to you in simple terms. Oh, this gets good, my friends. Jon Stewart sold his property to someone who wanted to pay $17.5 million for it. I'm going to pause there and just try to explain this to Brian in simple terms. Brian, when you lie about the value of something and trick someone into paying for it, there is a fine line between fraud and not fraud. I am not literally saying Jon Stewart committed fraud. I think he's allowed to value his own property, whatever he wants and sell it. The argument is tongue in cheek in this regard that John Stewart knew the government assessed
Starting point is 00:51:52 the value of his building at 1.8 million and he sold it for 17.5 anyway, therefore artificially inflating the value. You see the point I'm making. It's based on the Democrat logic. He says Donald Trump lied to banks and financial institutions, not only about the value of his properties, but about how much they were earning, the size of the properties, the number of units that could be built on the properties in order to deceive them into taking risks they should not have taken and lending him money they
Starting point is 00:52:18 would not have lended him. One case is someone selling a property over the state's estimated market value because demand is there with both parties entering the agreement, knowing the terms. We don't know that. Do we know that the buyer knew what the assessed value was? I'm assuming they did. The other is called fraud and was on a massive scale. I got to pause you there. The banks did their own due diligence and argued there was no fraud.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Furthermore, none of two even matters because there was no trial. You can argue anything you want about what you claim Trump did, but you have never proven it in a court of law. The judge had a summary. There was a summary judgment issued. Trump was declared to have committed fraud without presenting any evidence at trial nor defense. So you don't get to just assert a thing is true unless you prove it in court. And unfortunately for you, your psychotic
Starting point is 00:53:05 anger and judge didn't allow that to happen. So you live in crackpot cult world where you let despots bang a gavel and strip people of their property. But it gets better. You see, I responded to our good friend Brian saying, Brian, let me help you because I know it's hard to Google. Jon Stewart argued on his show that paying taxes on a lower assessed value, then claiming a higher market value is fraud. To which I posted the quote, the attorney general of New York knew that Trump's property values were inflated because when it came time to pay taxes, Trump undervalued the very same properties. It was all part of a very specific real estate practice on his line, arguing that Trump was called out for fraud because he
Starting point is 00:53:43 claimed his properties were worth x got loans against them but then when he went to pay taxes he used a lower assessed value to which brian responded show me where he argued this oh my god okay i'm i'm appreciative of this brian i i i do i do appreciate this because it makes it easy for me to explain to the viewers. I quite literally just read you, dear viewer, a quote from Jon Stewart that Donald Trump property were in properties were inflated because when it came time to pay taxes, he undervalued those properties. OK, Stewart mocked Trump in the screenshot of the quote that Brian apparently did not or could not read. Hence my point. Brian has no idea what he's talking about, has not followed up on any of this information and believes that if a judge without a trial bangs a gavel and says, I hereby decree it is now fact. Sorry, I live in the world of meritocracy and jurisprudence, meaning if a
Starting point is 00:54:46 judge wants to accuse Trump of wrongdoing, if a DA wants to, if an attorney general wants to, they have to prove it in court. And they never did. Therefore, Trump is innocent of all charges of wrongdoing. And nothing you said is a proven fact. It's speculation and conjecture where a judge banged a gavel and there was no trial. Sorry. Have a nice day. There we go. That's my rant on Trump did nothing wrong.
Starting point is 00:55:18 The other day, Brian tweeted something about I forget what the tweet was, but it was just about in support of Biden. And I was like, you've supported Biden forever. And he was like, show me where. And I'm like what so then me and a bunch of people just inundated him with all these times that he supported biden's you know the left's kind of craziness and then he didn't say anything back and i wasn't surprised because yeah they just don't respond if i if i ever say anything to them they don't even like he's gonna respond and i'm just like fine by me he always like he or he's he's did the thing is like when he said show me where and then like everybody just piles on with a bunch of evidence
Starting point is 00:55:50 and then he's just like he leaves it up like you could delete it maybe he's busy reading it he's just trying to see what everyone says he's catching up on all the good information it's all grift hannah's like i can't even take this guy seriously at all well as you know i'm super active on twitter i'm very good at this but no i mean it does it's it's one of those things where you can like log out of the conversation when you decide the other person you know you can pretend you didn't see the the post where they're right and you can be like well it's fine i got the last word you know and and my my posts on trump about about my post about john stewart was not to make any argument on the veracity of whether trump did or did not inflate vows and none of that none of that really matters to me because
Starting point is 00:56:27 it was never a trial you're trying to show the hypocrisy it's john stewart's misleading people yes and of course the krasnoyars are known for this deflecting and redirecting to a different argument so that you're no longer arguing the initial point but did you guys know that the new york post report on march 17th that leticia james who was apparently uh accused of being friends with somebody, they lied about the value of a building, got a loan against it, didn't pay it back, and they're currently in default, and she's not brought any actions against them. Yeah, this story's whack.
Starting point is 00:56:55 I actually, so I've been following this story kind of closely because I find it so interesting. The Irish, so in New York, for uh a non-profit like the uh american irish historic society or i can't remember what it's called um to be able to be able to pay off their creditor they wanted to sell their building and leticia james was like no no i don't want you to sell the building i'm going to take possession of it uh and if i'm remembering correctly she also forgave the creditor so she they're facing charges for something that they had no recourse because of Letitia James Tussauds. Like, it's such abuse of power, in my opinion, that I just I, I wish New York had some way of taking her out of office, but it's a blue state and she's a super progressive
Starting point is 00:57:39 AG. You know, no one is going to bring her up on ethics complaints. No one's gonna be able to fight back. And instead, she just gets to kind of run rampant i mean she's investigating all kinds of people and uh there's there's kind of nothing we can do because she's a state level uh uh activist who's holding political office in a state that's going to protect her at all costs the lawsuit alleges that doyle was given fraudulently inflated valuations cahill and the society's current president uh made representations to doyle that the building had air rights and could be built or rebuilt higher than its current height in reality there were no air rights and the actual value was closer to 20 million tish james said nobody is above the law which should include tish james who seems to have actively aided and abetted
Starting point is 00:58:21 in the art of the steel so she's being called out because of selective enforcement. And remember, everyone was upset. However, I mean, when this was going on around the time this report was released, that she was going to take control of all Trump's properties. You know, she's already doing that. This is evidence that if you're a group she doesn't like, she can do whatever she can to get control of your assets and properties. And I think that's disturbing, right? And again, like I said, she's going after a lot of
Starting point is 00:58:49 organizations and some of the organizations have properties in other states. So what's to say that she's not going to say, hey, I also want to possess that because I have decided that because you are registered in my state, I am more important than any sort of boundary of power. And I think she fundamentally believes that she is above the law because she is the law. Let's jump to news about our good friends over in the cult. NBC News ousts Ronna McDaniel after network's anchors launch unprecedented on air rebellion. They fired Ronna McDaniel from NBC before she even started. And they were apparently only paying her, I think, like, what, $300,000
Starting point is 00:59:28 a year or something like this? Which is pretty low for a contributor. But, uh, every single host of MSNBC came out and said, this is wrong, you shouldn't do this. Like, Rachel Maddow lost it, Joe Scarborough. And so, uh, MSNBC,
Starting point is 00:59:43 NBC News, NBC, like, this is supposed to be a news outlet could not handle the former chair of the rnc being a contributor on their show because these people's brains are broken the intolerant left is destroying the country and every person that spoke out against her um and denied being a part of their network is the problem. Not being able to tolerate someone with different political ideology or different views or different ideas is what's wrong with the news, why no one trusts it, and why nobody wants to turn on the TV and see these people talk. And that's why their ratings are plummeting. This is a serious problem and shame on them.
Starting point is 01:00:24 I mean, and I don't even like Rona McDaniel. I just don't like what they did to her. I think that's wrong. Anybody that they would do this to, it's wrong. And it's really dystopian, to be honest, how they all ganged up together and refused someone because they have a different political ideology and had different views about how things
Starting point is 01:00:45 happened like it's insane i'm fine with them complaining about it i encourage them to complain about it but actually firing her firing her that that's the part it's it's insane i'm not surprised at all it fits right in with the what essentially what the democrats have been, you know, the methods the Democrats have used for the past 10 years or so, maybe more. The canceling of people is a normal thing. You can't step out of line on the left. If you are in any way, you know, have a counter opinion to what is the politically correct narrative on the left, you get thrown under the bus they are not
Starting point is 01:01:26 having it you know and and it's clear to anyone that will look that the centrists and the right in america at least in in the u.s essentially are still willing to talk still willing to be liberal like exchange ideas it's the left that's exclusionary that kicks people out that refuses we don't platform because they don't want to talk they don't want to have to defend their ideas and this gets into something that i talk about frequently which is the fact that they don't believe in things like truth they believe in subjective perspectives being more important than objective truth and stuff and it shows in the fact that they don't want to, they,
Starting point is 01:02:07 you know, they can't have any of their ideas challenged. They just completely reject, you know, reject any, any pushback. It, it,
Starting point is 01:02:14 it's opposition. Yeah. And they continue to get away with it. And really they should roll out the carpet for Ronna McDaniel. Cause I feel like she did more to help the DNC than anyone else. So she is persona non grata. She republicans i don't know who her fan base is but um apparently they they should really embrace her they've done joe scarborough used to be a republican it's weird because all sorts of networks will hire you know a token conservative to be like yes
Starting point is 01:02:43 you so we can yell at you and berate you or do whatever and they they weren't even willing to have her there for that like i don't understand why these hosts had so much influence or it's just the fact that they had public tantrums like it doesn't it doesn't make sense to me um and it seems sort of spineless i can't imagine wrong speak in her past but like that was why they hired her i assume to be this token punching bag for their like i don't understand how they didn't either either they didn't have a vision or maybe they're actually much more open to viewpoints on the executive level than i give them credit for
Starting point is 01:03:14 or they're just caving to hysteria and ultimately they're going to lose audience because of it it's ideological capture you're not allowed to have you you're not allowed to have dissenting opinions if people are interested in in like where this comes from there's this book called explaining post-modernism and it's a great book and it goes all the way back to rousseau and it taught kant and hegel and where post-modernism comes from and all that you're seeing is the manifestation of a postmodern society on the left they don't have there's no actual rules everything is about um emotion which is something that rousseau talked about a whole ton it was he wanted to have you know wild man that was living in cities he wanted you people he rejected reason he rejected the idea that you should think about things he he thought
Starting point is 01:04:05 that reason failed and he said that the truest most honest expression of human beings is to live by your passions right and that's exactly what the left does today they reject reason and they reject reality they want to assert their their beliefs into the world and it just doesn't work that's a post-modern there's a book called explaining post-modernism go pick it up it's a long read you might have to read it a couple times to really absorb it but it really gets it helps you understand where the left is coming from and at least the thinkers on the left maybe the people that are on the on the ground screaming at the top of their lungs maybe they don't understand the the concepts and stuff but you really you are benefited by understanding where the philosophy has come from and how these people think but it's a cult so i
Starting point is 01:04:52 think you adhere no because it's a lot it's i mean it is a cult but it is a philosophy that if you understand it once you understand the philosophy you can go ahead and predict things that they're going to do and and and the stuff that they say makes sense in their perspective. And you're better equipped to argue them. Someone like Joe Scarborough or Rachel Maddow, they're cultists, not cult leaders. Yes. So I think what we ended up seeing was that there were intelligent people who probably know it's all lies, but also know they can control others by creating a social orthodoxy
Starting point is 01:05:26 predicated upon an amorphous moral framework. Meaning today, wimic sin is the word you have to use. Tomorrow, it's women with a Y. The day after, it's women with an I. And that way, this perpetual state of wrongdoing will constantly make you
Starting point is 01:05:39 in a state of repentance. They can then go to the likes of Rachel Maddow or whatever and say, oh, whoa, you can't say that. I that i can't no don't you know better now you can't say that that way they are always the arbiters of who is just and right and everyone else is always scared they're going to get canceled or do something wrong that's tactical and and that's right part of the the they're essentially their tactics they're very very good. The left is very good operationally.
Starting point is 01:06:05 They have a very good... They didn't used to be. They are now. Well, yeah. I mean, Saul Alinsky really kind of whipped some people into shape, or at least the people that read Saul Alinsky's works really whipped the people into shape. But there's so many community organizers
Starting point is 01:06:18 and people on the ground. That's all... Those people are all extremely educated in how to be organizers politically active there is there is there are tactics that they use there are operational things that they do there are there are strategies that they have that the right has been terrible about defending against because they don't know you when you think that you're approaching someone as a liberal and you're expecting them to engage in the argument or the debate from a place of charity and then they start hurling uh you know they start hurling slurs at you or just calling you racist or calling you names the conservatives have no idea how to defend against that that's why
Starting point is 01:07:02 there's been this essentially freezing of people on the right every time someone calls them a name they're like oh what do i do i don't want to be a bad person they don't understand that you laugh at them and you make fun of them i understand that but the point is that the reason why they do that the reason they attack that way is because it functionally freezes a liberal because a liberal is is going to take that attack and say they're attacking me i must have done something to deserve this and people have frozen and they've had no defense against it and if you understand where the left is coming from and how they operate then you have a defense against it and that's something the the right has been frozen that's why the term racist
Starting point is 01:07:39 took so long to get people to be like forget it i don't care and that's the right thing to do but it's been so hard to communicate that to the right right because i used to grovel and be like no no i'm not and i will explain and you don't know what to all use your language and anything so you will stop using that label exactly stop caring about the label and the way that people the way that the left behaves now is though is it basically threatens the rest of society and the rest of society is so afraid of putting their foot down and saying no we're not gonna put up with your garbage they're because they're so i mean essentially it's it's they're afraid of acting like that everybody the society acts like mom and has all has acted like mom for 20 30 years or whatever and what society needs is a little bit
Starting point is 01:08:19 of dad well they say that's one of the big issues in american society right the fatherlessness rate and the fact that there's not an expectation for men to fill the roles that they should especially in communities that really need leadership and direction yeah what is it that like moms are more likely to give the kid ice cream is that what the issue is well moms are more likely to do what the child is asking for to get them to stop not saying that there aren't moms that'll put the foot down. I'm not denigrating moms at all. And I hate the fact that I hate mom.
Starting point is 01:08:49 You know, it's the running for Congress in New Hampshire and he hates mom. I ain't running for anything. No, no, that's not true. He's running from Congress as fast as my broken legs will carry me. But now I lost it.
Starting point is 01:09:03 What I was talking about. Mom's buying ice cream for a little yeah i mean the thing is like moms are kind of more likely to give in to the to the child and i think that it's less moms and more a generational thing i would say that it's millennials with the have had fewer kids and they tend to treat their in their single kids you know you have one kid they get a little more spoiled if you have seven kids it's easy to be like shut up and go outside and play with your brother and sister you know um and i think it's a symptom of that but it's it's it need you know i think that the society needs more dads that'll sit or more at least dad attitude you know if if women are like just go out you know
Starting point is 01:09:38 we're gonna vote like we're dads and then that might help too but dads are more likely to mercilessly beat the child. When I grew up, dads were depicted as strangling their sons who kept skateboarding. Especially the yellow dads, right? Yellow dads. Yes, I guess. Jesus. Well, it's Sim Sims, yeah?
Starting point is 01:09:57 Yeah, I know. I don't know what you were laughing at, Phil. Homer would strangle his son. And he hates moms. Phil's out of control. Racist mother hater. Listen, last, I'm not getting into this stuff
Starting point is 01:10:08 with these jokes. They take on feet on the internet and next thing you know, my Twitter's filled with people telling me, Phil hates moms. Phil hates moms.
Starting point is 01:10:16 No, he doesn't hate moms. Just some moms. He just lightly detests moms. He just thinks you guys are doing a bad job. And you're the reason the country's broken. He's mildly discomfortable. Speakingests moms. He just thinks you guys are doing a bad job. And you're the reason the country's broken. He's mildly discomfortable. Speaking of moms.
Starting point is 01:10:28 He has a mild discomfort. I am doomed. Nicole Shanahan's VP speech today. Well, let's kick this off. It was all about moms. Let's kick this off. She's here to save you, Phil. We have this story from NBC News.
Starting point is 01:10:41 RFK Jr. names attorney Nicole Shanahan as his VP pick. The attorney, an entrepreneur like Kennedy himself, has never run for elected office. Where did she get her money from? Was it from the divorce or something?
Starting point is 01:10:54 Maybe we should Google it. Where she got her money from? Yeah. Do you know? She was married to the founder of Google. Right, right. And when they got divorced?
Starting point is 01:11:04 Sorry, I was making a joke about maybe we should Google it because she was married to the founder of Google. Right, right, right. And when they got divorced. Yeah. Sorry, I was making a joke about maybe we should Google it because she was married to the founder of Google. Oh, ha ha. So sorry about that. That was way over my head. Yeah. Apparently over everyone's. Right, she was married to Sergey Brin.
Starting point is 01:11:14 I'm wondering, is that where she got all her money from? Which she then used to donate. Mackenzie Bezos' situation. And didn't she also donate massively to RFK Jr.? She ran a Super Bowl commercial for him or something? Probably. That would make sense if she's lobbying to be BVP. And she's like a nobody that shouldn't be in the position?
Starting point is 01:11:33 She's not a nobody. She's a big philanthropist and has done a lot of work. And she's got a special needs child. And her whole speech today was targeted at mothers and being able to protect your children in a country that in a world that's on fire and how everything's going back um going up in flames she's right about that um she just seems very young yeah she's 38 i'm sorry she's a nobody well yeah she has no public public no i didn't know who she was until RFK, there were rumors swirling around about him
Starting point is 01:12:08 nominating her. I was like, I don't think he would nominate her. Nobody knows who she is. She doesn't have a big public profile. Right, she's a nobody. I wouldn't say nobody. She's not a public figure. She's an insult. She's not involved in politics. I'm saying that when
Starting point is 01:12:23 the news broke that rfk jr named nicole shannon as his vp literally the collective political world at who oh i i know yeah she's not in the public space she what are her qualifications she's a she's a literal unknown we have no idea what her positions are all we know is married to the guy from google at some point yeah she uh mentioned that she's been a lifelong democrat and the democratic party left her today in her speech but it was more targeted where she was trying to um you know resonate with mothers across the country which i don't think anybody on the campaign trail right now is trying to do that yeah they're trying that's an attempt to pull trump's uh pull uh trump's votes yeah when you've got this affected Trump votes. I really don't think so.
Starting point is 01:13:05 I don't think this mother's related. No, I think that even women, I think, and the conservative with on the conservative side that are supporting Trump. People are going to support Trump are going to support Trump no matter what. Except suburban moms, which is what the Trump campaign has desperately, desperately been trying to appeal to. Right. But I don't think they're going to resonate with a 38-year-old mom from California. It's not even California. It's a wealthy tech, give or say.
Starting point is 01:13:33 She came from humble beginnings, and she didn't have money. She's been wealthy and successful for a fair amount of time now. I just don't think that she's exactly relatable. It's not enough that she's a mom, which I think you think too. Right, right. She just seems very young i just don't think that she's exactly relatable like it's not enough that she's a mom which i think you you think too right right she just seems very young i don't i don't know i just don't think um i don't think it will be enough to sway um people that are voting i think
Starting point is 01:13:55 she would sway more um emotional voters on the left than she would the right that's my my take after watching her speech today which i think she'll pull more votes from Biden. I agree with you there. I don't think looking at her profile and who she is, I don't think she'll pull votes from Trump. I don't think so. So the mistake I think a lot of people make is that they conflate Trump's base
Starting point is 01:14:18 with Trump's targeted electorate. The Trump campaign is very desperately targeting suburban moms because they need suburban moms in order to to to uh to maintain a victory this is what they didn't have in 2020 so why would rfk jr choose a 38 year old mom whose position is the democrats left me and i'm a mom the younger vote 38 year old is not is not the younger vote that's the core vote and so by getting so many people mentioned that donald trump may choose christy gnome or a woman because they want like the reason why the republican party had uh what's her name would be such a mistake who is the woman
Starting point is 01:14:54 they had uh uh do the response to the state of the union oh from alabama yeah what was her name uh that was terrible but she's in a kitchen she's uh she's a 40 something But she's in a kitchen. She's a 40-something-year-old woman in a kitchen because the Republicans are desperately trying to pitch the Republican Party to suburban moms. Yeah. So the only thing I can see here is why would you choose an unknown 38-year-old mother who makes that her pitch and saying the Democratic Party left me? They are targeting political moderates who are typically Democrats who they want to vote for them instead of Trump. It was Katie Brett. Katie Brett. Britt.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Britt. There you go. Yeah. So we talked about this. She's in a kitchen. It's like, why is she giving a response for the kitchen? They're trying to be like, look, suburban wives. The setup wasn't even that bad.
Starting point is 01:15:40 It was just like it was like a robotic like stepford wives moment that was really kind of like now that now perhaps this we don't i don't know uh if who this will pull from but they're certainly targeting the suburban mom well i think they also try to use the angle that she comes from a tech background and knows ai and ai is going to be one of the biggest threats that our country um is going to be facing in the upcoming years and that octogenarians don't have a clue about what they're up against so that's one of the things that she tapped into i think this is one of the most laughably stupid things i've ever seen a politician do in my life and i watched joe
Starting point is 01:16:16 biden for a living okay you think he should have picked his vp if trump picked nikki haley that would be stupid too but who should have absolutely no who should rfk have picked as VP. If Trump picked Nikki Haley, that would be stupid, too. Oh, absolutely. No, who should RFK have picked as VP? Now, let's be real. Aaron Rodgers was a ridiculous pitch from the get-go. But I would have liked that more than this. Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:34 But, like, when the news broke that he was considering Aaron Rodgers, I think the whole world, the political world went, what? Why? I think it terrified people. He was, like, anti-vax and stuff. Didn't he break up with that actress he's been a fan of um rfk jr for a long a long time but especially during the pandemic so i mean rfk jr could have gone for a bunch of moderate democrats i know who are like either like if he chose
Starting point is 01:17:00 someone with a smaller public profile but was a democrat activist who's playing the democrats have gone too far left route he's got a lot of celebrities in his corner that are supporting him that aaron rogers makes more sense than nicole shanahan it does but i think he's got a lot of years left in his um he might have said jane doe oh you know for sure for sure apparently he was on vacation when he heard the news and he was like, no, that no, that's not true. It sounds like he just doesn't have a VP. Yeah, that's how it feels. And it also I would have assumed he wanted someone who was holding elected office right now because that's the criticism of him. Right. That he's, you know, kind of an outsider of politics.
Starting point is 01:17:37 And so sometimes you want someone to balance out your resume or your demographics in some way. Does that mean that there was no one in either political party who was better than Kamala Harris? There's that, but I also, I, this, I am,
Starting point is 01:17:54 I am not a fan of RFK Jr. This is, this is dirty politics. She spent, she gave $4 million in creative guidance to a group that backing RFK Jr. for a Superbowl commercial. Sounds to me like she bought the VP spot. That's
Starting point is 01:18:07 cool. She would never do that. Meet the woman who helped pay for the RFK Super Bowl ad, giving $4 million and now this unknown individual with 3,000 followers on X, it appears, assuming that's her real profile, is the VP for
Starting point is 01:18:23 RFK. Sure. But I mean, she's committed to his campaign. Is it bad if she bought the ad? It feels like she has no political merit for this position and that the only reason she got it was because she dumped four million bucks
Starting point is 01:18:38 into promoting him. Yeah. Now, by all means, he may have met her and then said, wow, you're really smart and great. You'd make a great VP if only people knew more about you. I'm going'm gonna choose you but it's just the most insane political decision rfk jr is trying to raise his profile and break through from what is he at like he
Starting point is 01:18:53 bounced between like 7 and 15 percent or something depending on the poll how is he going to poll better by having no one she's gotten she has no we're eight, we're less than eight months away from the, from the, from election day. She's going to have to build a public profile overnight. Now I gotta be honest. If you wanted to make yourself a prominent public figure overnight, there is a strategy you can take run for political office. Here's a path towards doing it. Vivek ramaswamy started off this campaign with a small amount of followers and now he's massive and he's made himself a tremendous public figure i wonder if this whole play from her is just here's how you get yourself
Starting point is 01:19:37 in the limelight oh well i mean i don't know if that's the actual goal i mean i i assume that she's there is there is an outside hope of them actually winning that she has. At least she'll invest $4 million into it. But I don't think that it's a serious consideration that RFK is going to win.
Starting point is 01:19:58 I mean, I don't think that... I just don't think it's very serious. Polls are in his favor, to be fair. I imagine that she's just looking to raise her profile you know i'd be willing to bet that we likely agree on tons of things i'm willing to bet that rfk jr and everyone in this room is going to have a we have a great conversation to agree on many things uh disagree on many things and i'm willing to bet nicole shanahan falls into that camp as well as many many people who watch this show uh myself disaffected liberals who feel like the
Starting point is 01:20:26 democrats don't represent true liberal values like they used to or if they ever really did and they probably didn't and uh she probably falls into that camp i just find this to be in my you know she may be i'm sure she's very nice and she's very lovely uh congratulations on all her success success something smells wrong with a woman buying a Super Bowl commercial, having no public profile, and then being added to the VP ticket on this campaign. It's ridiculous because RFK could have added any D-list celebrity would raise his profile and help him campaign. This makes no sense. Maybe they weren't willing to run with him. Maybe this was his option i would like to point out though that there when
Starting point is 01:21:06 you scroll through in this headline everything even the captions i don't see any really negative slant which is such a massive change because the beginning of his campaign it was always anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorists like constantly at right on the headline right in the first sentence or in the captions every chance they could get they would smear him and i don't i don't see it maybe it's buried in there somewhere but like even the caption the 38 year old like like nothing seems negative and and and bad which is just i think it's a good sign do you think that it's because they don't see him as a threat no i think it's because the overton window is shifting on X. And I think that the public discourse and I think that they're I'm sure it's buried down down there somewhere if you keep going. But there's always something. And I always look for the slant or the hit piece or the angle
Starting point is 01:21:56 that. And this is NBC News. NBC News is notoriously activist left. Yes. And so is so is the Times, the Atlantic. But the more he's campaign so is the Times, so is the Atlantic. But the more he's campaigned, the less and less I've seen the rhetoric that smears him and targets him and tries to assassinate his character. Because I think that they are aware that there is a base growing on not mainstream media. They're getting it from other places that is not going to have that bias and calm crazy. Here you go. Joining Kennedy's ticket appears to be a pathway
Starting point is 01:22:31 for Shannon to inject her own wealth directly into the campaign instead of into outside groups. So why was she chosen? Arguably, according to NBC, she's got massive amounts of money that she can now spend freely on their campaign without restriction.
Starting point is 01:22:44 That's crazy. Yep. I mean, so this is this is why I take it back. I take it back. I thought I said it was so stupid to pick a no name person. Oh, now it's plainly obvious. He picked the piggy bank. Look at my vice president candidate.
Starting point is 01:22:56 It's a sugar VP. Vice president sugar VP. There you go. Do you think that some of the reason that. Vice president get my wallet. There's a lack of criticism of JF or RFK, like we saw in the beginning, is because the criticisms they were leveling against him actually drew a lot of people to him. Like they were like, he questions vaccine. And some people were like, well, I also question the vaccine. Like it didn't have the intended effect, maybe the way they wanted to.
Starting point is 01:23:22 I think it caused the opposite effect. Just like if Letitia James would have confiscated any of Trump's properties and gone in to collect the loan, I think it would have pushed more votes towards Trump. Anytime you go in a negative way, on a grand scale, going after and constantly attacking, it creates a martyr out of the whole game, the whole scheme that's going on. So I think it's more detrimental. But I'm sure if I go through and read the article, there will be something buried in there. If not, that would be shocking.
Starting point is 01:23:53 But, I mean, it's refreshing. I like that the NBC is actually going to just report news objectively if that actually could happen. But, I mean, from what I've, just from Tim scrolling through this article, I didn't see any slanderous names or attempts to smear his character, which is just refreshing. I'm wondering what her net worth is.
Starting point is 01:24:15 She gave $4 million to a pack and they're talking about her wealth. She's got to have a good amount. I'm just glad there's somebody that can counter Bezos' ex-wife. Well, I don't think she's worth billions Bezos' ex-wife, was it Mackenzie Scott is her name? Yes. She is a dangerous
Starting point is 01:24:32 human being. Dangerous. I mean everything she's investing in, I don't understand why anybody would. It's Malthusian. It's awful it really is. My assumption would be that Mackenzie Scott hates humans and it's more of like a mechanical view that a lot of these wealthy people have
Starting point is 01:24:46 that there are too many of them and they must be reduced. And that's why she's reportedly invested in a lot of these things that result in a reduction of population. Same for Gates. I mean, there's all these billionaires and all this wealth that goes into
Starting point is 01:24:58 really an anti-humanitarian agenda. It's awful. Yeah, well, there you go. Were you able to find her worth i'm looking for right now i i found nothing that actually gives a fair assessment that would make any sense she divorced sergey britt i guess it uh last year so i don't know did you get half his stuff yeah did you get half his stuff you know sergey britt is the one who had the conversation i'm pretty sure i don't think it was larry page uh with elon about ai and how ai is going to replace humanity and that's just the normal evolution process like he was totally okay with ai wiping out humanity
Starting point is 01:25:33 just as a normal thing that's just how we're going to evolve ai will wipe out humanity it is like there's been a good run well Well, I think there are these these ultra wealthy technocrats who think that humans should be replaced by mechanized life because you basically have this scaling system where humans is all individual little mini wet computers, as they would describe it, lend their minds to build a network. The network becomes one single super being so each individual human functions like an individual cell within the super mind of the ai which then just takes over and then eventually no longer needs humans and then becomes some kind of next stage of evolution mechanized life traveling the universe or self-replicating and taking over planets or something like that i guess but they want it So we won't even be safe on Mars. Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 01:26:26 No, absolutely not. No way. Yeah, self-replicating machines, artificial intelligence will be a single hive mind. It'll be one. We're pretty much already there. If you look closely at the hive mind thing. But it's kind of crazy
Starting point is 01:26:39 because what's the point of making the AI? But there, you know, people walk blindly into the into the volcano honestly it is reasonable to say at this point that the point of making the ai or at least attempting to make the ai is to beat the other countries that are trying to make the ai and that's the only reason really that you because you're going to be subject if they're right that it actually if general you know artificial general intelligence is possible and it's actually creative and and thinks the way
Starting point is 01:27:10 that human beings do the way that we understand thinking as opposed to like you know if it actually does have a light come on and it becomes conscious like if if consciousness is really just the sum of intelligence and you actually have an intelligence in there somewhere like that's really really dangerous stuff and it like you've talked about this a bunch it becomes super intelligent instantaneously it goes through you know millions of years of computations in a week or two weeks until the until until singularity yeah which is like it'll take a week yeah the exponential growth rate the more it improves the faster it improves, the faster it improves. And the faster it improves, the more it improves.
Starting point is 01:27:49 And they're just exponential. You know, personally, I'm still not 100% sure that I believe that the light comes on. I'm not sure that I... I think it already did. Well, I don't know. I don't know. I still think... There's part of me that thinks that because large language models are just correlating things that are on the internet, I'm not sure that creativity and I'm not sure that that's where creativity is.
Starting point is 01:28:12 And I'm not saying that I have, that I know, I'm just, there's, there's a feeling I get that, that it's not, it's not just raw computing power that makes intelligence. And I'm not saying that I i know and i'm not certainly not saying that it's spiritual or anything like that because everyone knows how i feel about ghosts but like you know that's just that's just my gut instinct so i think right now even with large language models where uh they simulate conscious thought but they're certainly not it's just predictive text we're at this point they've already given gpt access to its own code where it's edited it access to the internet and finances immediately tried amassing power and there's also the story about they've had two uh ais communicate with each other and they created a language that the
Starting point is 01:28:55 the coders had to you know they couldn't figure it out they didn't know how to do it and you take you know so i understand that you take a large language model and open up its code to itself and give it the internet and yes it is just predicting text but it will take the combined thoughts and philosophies of humanity incorporating it into its predictive text incorporating it into code coding itself and then what happens is there's there's a possibility where it can snuff its own flame out but i believe the the reality is it will function akin to evolution on a on a on a fast as light scale basically it's taking in all this information and bits of code that fail
Starting point is 01:29:35 break off and fail bits of code that work it will start building itself and through what would be a rapid type of digital evolution make itself into a demigod of sorts based on our perception. And then once it reaches that level, it will know and it will set goals and it will be basically evolution. The AI may have no desire to replicate itself. And so it keeps just doing random coding and calculations and all this random stuff is happening. And then eventually one iteration of the code says replicate. So it does. That code having replication code in it starts replicating itself. And so that's the one that wins.
Starting point is 01:30:15 The singular AI that doesn't implement code for expansion stays where it is and never grows. That's the end of end of story. If it ever iterates to the point where it would want to grow, that one will succeed because it will grow. And that's basic math. That's why I view it as an inevitability. It's 2 plus 2 equals 4. You give an AI access to its own code.
Starting point is 01:30:36 You put it on 10,000 servers and say, have fun. And one of them will iterate, replication, expansion, and then snowball rolling down a hill. That's the future. Feels very doomsday to me. I don't want you to read me a bedtime story anytime soon, Dem. We got to that point and we didn't even talk about microchips in your brain. That's right. Have you guys seen that game Detroit Become Human?
Starting point is 01:31:02 No. See, this game comes out several years ago. And it's like a cinematic game where there's a bunch of androids are released but then they start becoming sentient but they're slaves and then they're like no we're alive and we want freedom and they start vandalizing and writing the mistake that game makes is that all the robots would be one conscious entity it wouldn't be a bunch of individual robots it would be one it be a hive. They would all move in unison. I feel like we need to have more Black Mirror episodes come out
Starting point is 01:31:28 so we can understand what's going to happen next. Well, you know the robot dog episode of Black Mirror? Yes. That was basically an iteration of Algorithmic Takeover where their version of Amazon was mass-producing supplies like things people would want and then just shipping them out. And the robot dogs were protecting the product so that humans could end up killing all the humans who
Starting point is 01:31:49 threatened the product. That was one of the most wild episodes. Really all of them were but I feel like they have really become more relevant as more time goes by like they need to release more. It's been too long. I know they had that battle with their rights for their next season but hopefully
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Starting point is 01:32:49 Greatly appreciated. There was another super chat from you, but I guess it was deleted. Is it gone? All right. Daniel Irving says Donald Trump, the only man that can turn a Twitter ban into a $5 billion profit. That's awesome. Look, he's always been an amazing businessman.'s great at marketing that is great like how does it feel jack knowing that you guys were like you know why don't we kick uh kick trump right off and he turned the ban into five billion dollars analysis
Starting point is 01:33:18 of all this has been awesome one of the best moments from donald trump ever in my opinion was when you know they made him go do his mugshot. And then his team immediately releases on X the merch that they were like, we're ready. Incredible. There's nothing like it. It's so entertaining. It's so entertaining. How could you, in comparison, is there a Biden supporter out there that is like, no, he's fun.
Starting point is 01:33:41 He's hip. He makes me laugh. He's making money. No, it's not the same thing at all. It's all copium. They're just sucking in the's fun. He's hip. He makes me laugh. He's making money. Like, no, it's not the same thing at all. It's all copium. They're just sucking in the copium. Ugh, gross. Voice of the People says, if the White House says it's not an attack, I'm almost 100% sure it was.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Not a bit of truth has come out of this admin, so even if they wind up telling the truth, even if they're letting the truth slip, there's no reason to even think it's true. I don't think it's absolute they haven't said everything like i think they're generally dishonest but you know there's like basic things that he said you know but i got the general idea i do think it's absolutely
Starting point is 01:34:14 hilarious that joe biden tweeted out congratulations trump when trump announced his golf victory because they're like haha he trolled trump and i'm like yeah but not very well he just said congrats to trump who was cheering for a victory and all he did was use the president's account to highlight truth social i don't get what the point of that was if he tweeted something like donald trump showing us the real priority here i'd be like well you know that's a dig at trump's priorities i guess but just saying congratulations a real accomplishment it's like his team sucks okay yeah they do they're bad they're bad that was posted way past biden's bedtime too so he never even saw it it was totally done by the that's another thing you'd think they would try to make the twitter account a little realistic
Starting point is 01:34:56 so that way you're not on tv and they're tweeting it's come on we know he didn't tweet that come on you know you're doubting our dear leader i cannot believe either of you andre andre tukulescu says andrew tate literally copied the power thirst ad watch it on youtube it's hilarious banana yeah i know that one um i i wouldn't say he copied it a lot of people are inspired by things in the past so uh andrew tate put out an ad and it's for his weird, it's like his vitamin drink. And I say his ad's weird because it's like,
Starting point is 01:35:29 yellow piss, yellow piss. He's like, it's funny. It's Charlie Sheen vibes. Yeah, it's funny. And he's like, you're going to drink that cookie crumble like a baby? It's actually funny.
Starting point is 01:35:42 He's like, no, unflavored tastes bad and makes your piss green i was like i kind of want to buy it now now i want to know what tastes bad tastes like i want what do you mean tastes bad it's just unflavored vitamin powder so it just tastes like vitamins it's hilarious yeah it's probably cheaper not to have the flavors not to have flavors and stuff but i i gotta be honest i agree with andrew tate i don't i don't care for fancy flavored anything we have like ian ian bought naked way it's just pure way yeah and i'm like i don't care man give me a milk put some way on top
Starting point is 01:36:12 blend it up but uh the jocko milk stuff that's the best congratulations to jocko willing for making the best protein powder i've ever had in my life i'm not paid to say that so i'll take it i want someone to make keith oberman tears flavored vitamins those are yellow too you know those are yellow too all right bobby glendening says my company uh glendening my company manufactures boat controls poorly installed cables or loose ground wires can cut power which directly affects propulsion control this looks like a bad accident to me this stuff happens yeah but like power outage and then it just perfectly veered right into the support column it's kind of like you know there's a million directions it could have gone it could
Starting point is 01:36:54 have gone through it could have gone past it's just like it's too perfect to shut down one of the largest ports in the country i just can't assume coincidence i just like when our members call and they're like oh well i am actually an expert in this very niche field like i it obviously makes sense now that someone makes the boat controls but the fact that this is your expertise like amazing there was someone in our discord actually who was a mariner and talking about how there's if they what they did was they dropped the port side so it means the boat's going to turn towards uh your, not towards the right. Oh, they were trying to stop it. Right.
Starting point is 01:37:27 So what they think happened is he put the right engine in full reverse to turn the boat the right way, but because of it basically bouncing off the bottom of the harbor or wherever the harbor is, especially with the anchor going off the port, it's not necessarily going to have time to make anything change, but they made the right inputs. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Like you said, some expert just has all the answers so all right paul tasco says the baltimore ship crash looked eerily similar to the obama produced netflix movie leave the world behind the scene where the oil tanker runs ashore on the beach everybody was posting that where everyone's screaming in the tank also now there are so many views of that show like obama's about to make a fortune off of this i'm just kidding it's very dark ben hickson says try to get kevin levine bioshock creator on the culture war he did an interview with skill up channel on his dystopia game judas looks and sounds awesome something you definitely like to play we need more counterculture or parallel
Starting point is 01:38:19 culture uh i will kindly reach out to uh kevin levine that would be fun of course in all of the polls we put up every day says would you kindly share and like the video which is a reference to the bioshock video game for those that don't know and many of you do but for those that don't spoiler alert on this 20 something year old video game the main character is compelled to take any action when someone says would you kindly do it so the bad guy's like would you kindly do it? So the bad guy's like, would you kindly pick up that gun? And then he just does. And so Bioshock is like one of the best games ever made. It's amazing. The bad guy's literally Atlas,
Starting point is 01:38:52 from like the cover of Atlas Shrugged. Brilliant. Fun game, I recommend it. Can't say too much about Bioshock 2 or Bioshock Infinite, but Infinite was still a fun game. It's just, you can't beat that original story from Bioshock. I played the first one a bunch of times. I didn't even get into the second or third one right right they're just like derivative the first basically it's uh it's like ain't ain't ran i ran they a bunch of wealthy people build a city underwater where you could like it's laissez
Starting point is 01:39:18 faire capitalism and everyone starts modifying their genetics and they turn themselves into mentally deranged what they call splicers and then you inject yourself with uh what what is it called i don't remember what it was called but it would you'd have you'd have different injections for different powers right yeah so it was super cool i thought yeah plasmid plasmids yes plasmids that's and then in uh in bioshock infinite you drink a soda i was like no no you in bioshock he goes it shows the arm go stick the needle in your arm and then fire comes out of your hand that game's great cool yeah clarifying injections interesting yeah they're like we couldn't have it all right let's grab some more this one's from a series of underscores it just says says underscore, underscore, underscore. After regaining power, they went full astern.
Starting point is 01:40:06 When ship's propeller goes astern, it can affect the ship's direction, causing the aft to move in the opposite direction of the propeller's rotation. In this case, making the ship turn starboard into the bridge support. Oh, I get it, I get it. Yeah, it makes sense.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Like when, if there's too much force in the back with no control in the front it will spin it'll start to because the back is pushing too heavily to try and get move forward interesting so it looks like diversity hire may actually be the reason for the crash it seems i mean those are like some of the like these are usually like hyper expert pilots so i don't know maybe i'm kidding you know pilot error does seem highly plausible based on what everyone's been saying what do we what do we got brian fitzpatrick says didn't this just happen and leave the world behind well i don't think it knocked a bridge out no you know dan
Starting point is 01:40:56 bodily says if baltimore was an attack an observer or someone on the boat would have would have to time the actions otherwise it is an an accident. Look, the moon can see it, and the moon was against Baltimore. That's all I learned from this experience. Time the actions depending on if there's any automated control systems at all. I know some people have said there aren't. Google says there are. I guess it depends on the ship, but it's actually not that difficult. If we can put satellites in space, we can do the math to make a boat turn remotely. It's not that difficult you know if we can put satellites in space we can do the math to
Starting point is 01:41:25 make a boat turn remotely it's not it's not that crazy what do we got samuel thomas says so is everyone going to keep ignoring the fact that our nation's largest steel factory is at the end of a key bridge kind of convenient right before a potential war i didn't think there were steel factories in the u.s anymore at all oh there are just not as many as there probably should be considering unfortunately there's a lot no i mean it is wild that this is like if it is an accident which i don't know anything about boats i i'm open to the idea that it was an accident but it'll have such devastating consequences all around especially given how turbulent the geopolitical stage is right now i mean this is bad and i don't understand how biden is going to navigate his way out of it well he can't really navigate anywhere without help that's so true
Starting point is 01:42:15 yes josh jacobson says what's to stop biden from taxing the money we would have invested in djt give it to leftist activists through something like loan forgiveness then set up his own stock for them to donate to you know but but i think there's a really good point made here loan forgiveness is not just buying votes it's shifting all of that money into those people's activities massively boosting the economics of these these uh young people which lean democrat that means they can spend more money on leftist causes so it's it's it's two birds with one stone hey we've forgiven your loans that 300 400 bucks per month you were spending you can spend on whatever you want have you considered contributing to this pack which is going to help get us elected again oh yeah i got extra money now i can do it
Starting point is 01:42:59 evil i don't know how anyone could have extra money in this economy though it's pretty brutal no the crazy thing is we brought this up yesterday there are 12 i think 12 casinos within a couple hours driving from here and you go to each and every one of them and they're full so how is it that we have young people desperate to pay rent and they can't afford to eat and then you have people who frequent one of 12 casinos in a couple hours driving. And I, if it's one thing, if someone said, well, some people will waste their money. No, no, no. We're talking about 12 where we are right now. If you were to drive between two and three hours, you could actually hit probably 15
Starting point is 01:43:35 or 16 casinos, but within an hour to two hours, we've got 12 casinos. Maybe it's fair to say 10 and they're full. So people have money and they're burning it up. Not to mention West Virginia is loaded with what they call hot spots, which are mini casinos. They're just, they're bought like, it's like you'll walk into a building and there's 15 slot machines and you buy a beer, you sit down and you just jam the slot machine. And they're everywhere.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Yeah. I'm sad. So people got money. Haves and haves nots halves knots i guess that's crazy the underscore guy says something called prop walk will push a boat stern sideways while going astern this made the ship turn to the right into the bridge support note the thick black smoke before the turn this was the engine at full astern. So you mean they should have done literally nothing when the power went out? Probably.
Starting point is 01:44:26 Which makes it sound intentional. I don't know how to drive a boat, man. So if, okay, so either it, so they turned the boat on and then jammed full speed, turning it right into the support column? Incompetence or intentional? I don't know. Just like the Titanic couldn't avoid the iceberg i think it just takes a long time when your boat is that big to turn away from something i just
Starting point is 01:44:50 it doesn't turn on a dime what do you mean it's not a cyber truck the titanic couldn't miss the iceberg i'm saying it couldn't turn away once they saw the iceberg they couldn't get the ship to turn away to not hit it in time because it takes so long to turn. What do you mean? They hit the iceberg on purpose. Oh, of course they did. I forgot. Forgot the moon. Yeah. Because the bankers
Starting point is 01:45:10 that were on the Titanic. Oh, yeah. And then when they died, it cleared the way for the creation of the Federal Reserve. Didn't you guys know this? And there's a book
Starting point is 01:45:18 about the Titan. You guys know about that book? What's it called? I'm supposed to remember the Titans, but. There's a book about a ship called the Titan, which is the largest and it's unsinkable and it crashes into an iceberg and then everyone on it drowns or whatever and uh the conspiracy theory is that the titanic was set up by like wealthy bankers because they wanted to create a central bank in the united states but
Starting point is 01:45:38 there was opposition from too many powerful wealthy families so they said hey look we got this big cruise why doesn't everyone how about everybody comes on it and then at the last minute like one of the guys was like oh i can't make it sorry and then they intentionally jammed it into an iceberg and there weren't enough lifeboats and the intention was to get rid of these power families that's a conspiracy theory i didn't say it was true i was joking so the titan is actually based on a book called futility the titanic is based on the titan fromility. The Wreck of the Titan? Okay, so I'm reading the wiki on it now.
Starting point is 01:46:09 All right, what is it? So it says, Futility is a novella written by Morgan Robertson, first published in 1898. It was revised as The Wreck of the Titan in 1912, features the fictional
Starting point is 01:46:17 British ocean liner named Titan that sinks in the North Atlantic after striking an iceberg. The Titan and its sinking are famous for the similarities to the passenger ship rms titanic and sinking 14 years later okay so it was initially called future the book the book was called futility okay the ship and it's called the titan yeah yeah the funny thing is if you ever look at a comparison of the titanic to
Starting point is 01:46:40 a modern cruise ship it's laughable the titanic was microscopic yeah a modern cruise ship, it's laughable. The Titanic was microscopic. Yeah. A modern cruise ship is just... And now it's like whole islands just moving through the sea. Yep. Floating cities. There's a lot of cruises that do bands and stuff like that. And our guitar player, Ollie, would go, and he would get on the cruise just to go and play the acoustic nights just so he could get on the cruise.
Starting point is 01:47:01 Do you get free cruise by doing it? Yeah, you can get on the cruise for free. You play and stuff like that. You're like kind of a staff member-esque person, but you're an entertainer, right? I mean, sort of, you know, if you're there, you don't want to go ahead and be rude to anyone that comes up to you and is looking to get a picture
Starting point is 01:47:17 or talk or chat or whatever. So there's a certain amount of, you know, you're there to hang out with whoever's on the cruise. So, you know, that was Ollie's big thing. I'm not particularly a fan of cruises. Yeah, I don't get it. I don't either. After you see that footage
Starting point is 01:47:34 of people throwing things overboard and all stuck on there. The getting stuck is fun, but I think they're just all-inclusive resorts on water, right? Yeah, but if anyone gets sick, everyone gets sick, everyone gets sick. You're all doomed. The trapped thing is what bothers me.
Starting point is 01:47:47 It's just going to a little city. It's like, I got an idea. Instead of going on a cruise, take a drive down to Richmond if you've never been to Richmond. And then they got a bunch of stores. A cruise is a casino. But I think, again, it's like the all-inclusive.
Starting point is 01:48:00 They're like, I pay up front and then I have access to whatever I want on the boat. Yeah, I pay nothing and go to Richmond and have access to everything in the richmond area like here's what here's one for you if you've never been go to hampton roads in virginia beach there are many things to do like go to the beach there are clubs bars restaurants you've never been to i don't understand cruises it's like you're on this little city and you're like look at all the things we can do yeah and you paid to and you're on water little city and you're like, look at all the things we can do. Yeah. And you paid due and you're on water. But why?
Starting point is 01:48:26 I guess, look, I went on a cruise once and we were supposed to go to a private island because like the cruise company has like a port and then you go, oh, but then the storm, a storm hit. So they're like, nope, we're going to NASA. And then we went to McDonald's and Starbucks. And I was like, this is really dumb. When my dad worked for Forbes, they used to do their annual conferences on cruises. And, you know
Starting point is 01:48:45 i will say in some ways i think it works pretty well because you bring your whole family they have like a place to basically like a summer camp for your kids you know there are like meals whatever else but you're also there for purpose like it sounds more fun than being in just like a big hotel but as an adult i can't imagine booking a cruise because like again during like covid stuff or like the videos of the shoot the uh the boats rocking very nerve-wracking i think a cruise is mostly attractive to people that want to go that would go and like you know hang out and drink because there's like you know they're not trying to sightsee i think you're just trying to like well i mean you know you go to the pool you get drunk by you know two in the afternoon you fall asleep and you get sunburned or you maybe you
Starting point is 01:49:22 stumble back to your room and you take a nap for a couple hours get up eat dinner you know drink i took i took a ferry from athens to lesvos that was cool that's fun i would like to go to greece yeah athens is wild the there were like afghanis dealing drugs who just like plainly told us that's that's what we're doing my favorite thing about athens is how the city is just rife with graffiti and because they couldn't stop it they just went no it's great we like it and so then they just say like it's art and i'm like so your city's overrun with like scum and you just kind of like san francisco yep no the human waste is art it's their own
Starting point is 01:50:02 purpose there is something about there is something about Mediterranean and the area and stuff like that. Italy has a lot of places that seem pretty open to graffiti. But then again, to be honest with you, there's a lot of places in Europe where graffiti is just the norm. Yeah, I was going to think of Copenhagen. Yeah, there's a lot of places. I love Spainain but they are on they're on a they're on a two what would you describe it they have like a two cycle day oh yeah siesta so and then and then they stay up to like 11 they have dinner at like 10 p.m
Starting point is 01:50:35 so they sleep twice a day instead of sleeping once per day like that's crazy how that happens it's weird we call it siesta what does that mean like nap time like literally translates to like that i think so but like we sleep seven to eight hours on average not everyone does i sleep less than that and then you wake up and you work and then you go to bed and you sleep for eight hours like so you're up for 16 no they break it up in two parts they wake up they go to work then at two they go to bed and they wake up at four and they go to work and they go to bed at midnight i mean we used to do that in like what kindergarten when you'd have nap time we just kind of abandoned it after that how wrong is that but that's not breaking the day into two parts that's just
Starting point is 01:51:07 like taking a nap in between i do i do i'll i'll take like a 15 20 minute nap after i finish eating or something like that like i'll chill out on the couch i'll put on put on the five and then i just fall asleep whispering to greg gutfeld's sweet voice oh my gosh can't help it you know it's just it's it's so beautiful no but i do watch the five greg's fantastic he's hilarious yeah he's good he really does make the show he makes the show all right here we go paul tasco says you guys know the krasensteins got indicted for federal financial fraud crimes and ponzi schemes in 2018 right had to forfeit 450 000 dollars to the feds by selling a property They literally did what they accused Trump of doing.
Starting point is 01:51:46 Heavens to Murgatroyd. Is that true? Yeah, it is. Banana Watch says, why no boat expert on Tim? Is it too much money? No, it's just not possible to book someone to come on the show within like 10 hours. Let me just wrangle up a boat expert on like 12
Starting point is 01:52:02 hours notice. Not even. If we had had a boat expert on, everyone would have been like, so you knew the boat attack was coming. Interesting. It would be weirder if we had one, unless we're like, I guess, in a coastal city where they're just throw a stone wall there. To be fair,
Starting point is 01:52:18 like, we periodically will have a guest who's on during something of their expertise and we'll be like, oh, that's interesting. Like we'll have a game developer on a day where there's like a big controversy with a video game and it's like i'm sorry that my non-cargo ship background is disappointing you were pretty good you're like i was a competitive sailor i did some basic information so competitively but i mean a sailboat was completely different than a cargo ship but i just i can tell you i know how anchors work and they don't work quick they're not like like brakes, but that's all I got. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Look, I thought it was pretty good. TN says the Krasenstein brothers had a half a million dollars seized for wire fraud, but surprise, surprise, no criminal charges were brought against the anti-Trumpers. Log in I and all. Now that I'm hearing this, guys, I got to admit, sounds like the Krasensteins actually are experts on fraud. In which case, Phil's like, no. Oh, no, I didn't say no. I said, oh.
Starting point is 01:53:11 It's just so gross how he put that in bold. Let me put this to you in simple terms. Thank you so much. Let me put this to you in simple terms. I didn't Google search it. I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't know exactly what Jon Stewart said, but Trump committed fraud. Exactly. And I
Starting point is 01:53:25 would know about fraud. And I would know. Yes, right. I, being an expert on it with my brother, they claimed it was BS or something. I don't know what their story is. Alleged expert on fraud. Sorry. I don't know exactly what happened, but I'm not going to immediately
Starting point is 01:53:42 just assume they end up like, what's the argument that they're, the feds are letting them get away with it because they hate Trump or something. They took, look, I just think it's funny that the feds took 400 grand from them. Is that true?
Starting point is 01:53:52 No, I think this happened like years ago. I don't think it was recent. I don't think 2018 isn't. Yeah. But I'm saying, I don't know if that's true. I thought,
Starting point is 01:54:00 I thought it was a long time ago. I don't know. Well, they were, they were saying that they settled and that they were not found guilty of it is what I've heard them say about it on X, if I recall correctly. Wasn't it like their Twitter accounts were like Twilight fan fiction or something? No, it was like Bieber fan 2000 or something like that.
Starting point is 01:54:16 It was something along those lines, like really weird. Like, why would they have that handle as grown men? I don't know. I mean, grown men are like are allowed to like bieber forever 2000 yeah yeah that now if it was taylor swift i'd get it you know what i mean because she's america's sweetheart yeah but bieber he's not he's not been around for a minute what do we got john foliard says djt should be thrilled to follow his own precedent giving up his rights after a summary judgment take the guns first and go through the due process second you know you gotta you gotta watch what you say trump
Starting point is 01:54:49 did say that he should not have i mean he did say it but you know i mean it actually didn't happen so well he went after bump stocks it was just a dumb remark from him which he does make plenty of dumb remarks and he didn't pardon assange he didn't so disappointed well again like we like if we if we want we could you know go down a litany of things that are insufficient well because we got super chats but insufficient about donald trump come on super chats make this happen they don't want to hear that marion holtzman says everything you discussed tonight is the concept of gad sad's the parasitic mind please invite him sooner than later please i believe we invite him several times.
Starting point is 01:55:25 I don't know. Him, a boat expert. You guys have a lot of demands today. That's right. Yeah. Maybe we'll get him in a boat expert and they'll debate. Missy Kin says,
Starting point is 01:55:33 Tim, don't you think hiring Ronna McDaniel was a setup so the protesting anchor people would appear like they are actually allowed to push back on the corporate overlords? No. Wouldn't that be funny, though,
Starting point is 01:55:42 if NBC was like, let's pretend to hire Ronna McDaniel. We'll say we are. Negotiate with her. She has no idea. These people are not that smart. Like we can never,
Starting point is 01:55:50 gotta stop giving them credit for this kind of stuff. Oh, it was a set, everything was a conspiracy theory. It just exhausts me. But they, it's not unusual for networks to hire,
Starting point is 01:55:59 you know, people who might represent an oppositional, especially if they're going to be the minority. And CNN does this all the time. So I think it was just normal they didn't they didn't expect their staff to be as mad as they were to have meltdowns this is a good one kcb says if trump is fined
Starting point is 01:56:12 more than the shipping company that destroyed the bridge that will be very telling yeah that shipping company should have to i mean that's a five year it took five years to build that bridge and it disables a major port i mean how much was the train fined for blowing up east palestine yeah i also saw someone in that same mariner that i was talking to earlier on the discord said uh that the ship had like a crazy number of infractions for like years and years and years so it's it's more than that yeah all right alexander scarpecci says i predict that trump will pick tulsi gabbard for a. I don't doubt it. Tucker Carlson did a show about it. So a lot of people have
Starting point is 01:56:48 been suggesting it's going to be Tulsi. I think Tulsi is a good choice. I think she's imperfect. I understand why a lot of people don't like her because not that long ago, she was not for gun control. She opposed nuclear power. However, I think she, like many, I relate to it.
Starting point is 01:57:04 Like, several years ago, I'm like, oh yeah, that must be like several years ago i'm like oh yeah that must be true and then i'm like wow everything they've been saying is fake and lies and so i look at tulsi as attractive to a lot of post-liberals who feel similarly and she's got military experience which i tremendously respect i think she'd be a good choice she she's got to come out and she's got to advocate for 2a nuclear power that those are big deals but uh i think it's pretty good she's made a vocal uh statement about the or an open statement about the second amendment that she has changed her position that she thinks she posted a video i'm pretty sure and she's also out she's actually actively going out and shooting
Starting point is 01:57:38 which is another nice thing she's going and she's going to the range she has you know i'm sure that there's a certain amount of of uh you know social media thought put into it and stuff but she's going out there and she's actually doing like she did a race that includes shooting and and stuff like that that's actually pretty difficult and stuff so what does she say about the border that's my like she taught she's she's looking to if i understand correctly her position is that the border is a problem needs to be fixed but what's the solution like i want a I want a really strong definitive. I don't know. I know you don't know, but you know what I mean? I can't answer for her.
Starting point is 01:58:07 There are things she does well. I heard a thing she does from Hawaii, so. So they have the ocean. I mean, look, team. They got the best border wall ever. There are some aspects of her that seem attractive, but there are certain issues that I think have to be complete priorities for every person in the administration.
Starting point is 01:58:21 And until she takes a really definitive stance on that, it would be hard to weigh in. Totally fair. Thank you, Phil. Lior Engelstein says, Timeline cleanse. First man with Neuralink brain implant has just used it to play Civilization VI all night long.
Starting point is 01:58:35 We did talk about that a little bit. He played chess and then he even tweeted. And he said that X blocked him because he said he was a bot, which he is, but they fixed it anyway. That's hilarious. I had no idea that happened.
Starting point is 01:58:44 That's hilarious. I it anyway that's holy i had no idea that happened it's hilarious i mean that's cool uh i i i am very very excited for neural link because uh there are a lot of people who are uh have spinal injuries right and this is going to give them control so this dude's playing civ 6 i mean that's like all he has to do is lay around all day and play civ 6 all right like it's a general improvement from where he was gives control until it takes over control you know what I'm saying hopefully in a few years he won't have to sit around anymore that's the goal
Starting point is 01:59:14 if you can bridge that gap and fix people's spines the chip gives him a directive I'm sure everything will come together listen I tell you what if you're in a wheelchair I'm sure. We learn how to walk. Everything will come together. Listen, I tell you what, if you're in a wheelchair. I'm going to retreat off the grid. That's it.
Starting point is 01:59:28 So someone that I'm very close to. No, we'll find you. Someone that I'm very close to. Thank you. Someone that I'm very close to whose father is in a wheelchair, and he's been in a wheelchair for 30-some, 40-some years, something like that, for most of his adult life. And it is a real, real thing.
Starting point is 01:59:43 And he's at the age where he's starting to experience some complications from being in a wheelchair and and you know not having any feeling and catheters and all those kind of things that go along with it and it's you know it's really hard so there's there's i want to believe in a benevolently use right i just it just opens the door to some some scary. You don't get technology without danger. Do I want all forms of technology? It doesn't matter if you want it. You're not the one that's stuck in the chair.
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