Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #993 Democrat Governor BOOTED FROM Fallen Officers Wake As Dem BACKLASH Grows w/Blaire White

Episode Date: March 30, 2024

Tim, Ian, Phil, & Sergie join Blaire White to discuss the governor of NY being kicked out of the wake for a fallen NYPD officer, a real housewives star becoming the latest victim in the random string ...of attacks against women in NY, the viral TikTok star/illegal immigrant finally being arrested, and Ana Kasparian defending Ron DeSantis for his stance against squatters. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:31 Download the BetMGM Ontario app today. You don't want to miss out. Visit BetMGM.com for terms and conditions. 19 plus to wager, Ontario only. Please gamble responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, So Kathy Hochul tried to go to the fallen officer's wake and was kicked out. We have numerous stories talking about how she was heckled and asked to leave because people are quite upset with what's going on in New York City. More women are coming forward saying they're getting punched in the face. And now you actually have some celebrities saying
Starting point is 00:01:13 they've too been punched in the face. And I stand by my position. You reap what you sow and elections have consequences. Maybe they will change their voting patterns. I don't think they will. So I'm not going to give anyone any sympathy for the way they choose to live. You vote for it. You get it. I'm happy for you. What else are to complain about? So we got those stories. And then we have Lizzo retiring a day after going to this big fundraiser where Joe Biden's bragging.
Starting point is 00:01:37 You know, I just feel like lining up with Democrats is a surefire way to cause damage to your career because nobody likes Joe Biden. Well, Lizzo says that she's tired of all the backlash and the negative feedback and being made fun of for being fat. So she's retiring. But I wonder what this has to do with being at this fundraiser, because I have to imagine by appearing there, Lizzo probably got a massive wave of comments from people who are angry that she did. Some simply attacking her because she did and some directly criticizing her saying hey why did you do this what i mean is there's probably a lot of people who just started commenting you're fat and you're gross and things like that because she had done something to anger them politically hey man you
Starting point is 00:02:17 want to get into the political fray you reap what you sow so we'll get into those stories and admittedly wow what a slow news week outside of that major boat disaster which was huge news not a whole lot been going on everyone i i think it's uh you know it's easter everybody's kind of checked out everyone's uh planning for the weekend and it's good friday so uh you know it is what it is uh head over to casper.com buy coffee our coffee is very good everyone loves appalachian nights so much we sell out insanely quickly and now our distributor is just on like cycling we just told them like just order whenever you want like make it when you want it and build because people keep buying it but i do recommend rise with roberto jr which is of course my second favorite
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Starting point is 00:03:28 What did I just say? Click join us. Become a a member join our discord is what i wanted to say join the discord server as a member and we don't have a members only show coming up tonight but uh as a member of the discord you can hang out with like-minded individuals and we want to build that networking in that community joining us tonight talk about this and uh whatever else is blair white thanks for having me. Happy to be back again. Blair, who are you? YouTuber, social media influencer, I guess. Hate that term, but it fits. And I think this is probably my close to 10th time on the show. I feel like I've been here so many times.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Yeah, probably. At least seven or eight, right? Yeah, and then I realized when we were looking at the calendar that Michael is on Monday, I think. That's the first, right? And I was like, that's like the stupidest. We should have had you guys like back to back.
Starting point is 00:04:05 You could have hung out. Yeah. Or had you on at the same time. But yeah, Michael Mouse will be here on Monday. That'll be fun. We got Phil hanging out. Hi, everybody. My name is Phil LaVonti.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, anti-communist, counter-revolutionary. What's up, man? Not much, man. Looking forward to being back. Good to see you back. Let's do this rock and roll. Let's talk about Kathy Hochul.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I'm super excited. I'm being sarcastic too, by the way. What? I don't know it's gonna be fun everybody's got to do something with their life a little dunking course surge is over here pressing buttons yeah i'm hanging out pleasure to have you player let's uh get into it and real quick i have some good news uh we went out to the small little pond we have in the front of our house and i noticed that there were a bunch of weird black threads and i
Starting point is 00:04:41 didn't think much of it and then alison and i realized they were toad eggs yeah they're like it's a jelly tube full of little black dots and there's probably going to be like 800 baby toads in a week or two so it's gonna get nuts oh i love it and they're gonna be screaming they go that you just all night you hear all right let's talk about the news we got this from gazette.com kathy hokal kicked out of nypd officers wake wow hokal was not a welcome sight at the wake of fallen officer jonathan diller hokal reportedly left friday's reception within 10 minutes after she was greeted by a shout of get out get her out of here wow wow as she walked back to her car, Hochul was confronted by a man whose sources said
Starting point is 00:05:26 was speaking to her while gesturing with emotion. Videos of the exchange were shared on social media and a statement to the Washington Examiner spokesperson for the governor's office would not confirm
Starting point is 00:05:34 or deny the claim that Hochul was asked to leave. Governor Hochul attended the wake today to mourn the loss of Officer Diller. Officer, offer her condolences
Starting point is 00:05:43 and hear from his family and loved ones who are dealing with unimaginable grief. Diller, 31, offer her condolences and hear from his family and loved ones who are dealing with unimaginable grief. Diller, 31, was shot and killed Monday while performing a traffic stop on an illegally parked car. The suspected shooter, Guy Rivera, 34, had been arrested 21 times before the incident and is now facing murder charges. And my understanding is there was no reason for it. The guy just walked up to the car and they just shot him through the window so uh i don't understand and someone's gonna have to give me their you're gonna have to explain this one to me how joe biden raises as much money as he does when everyone hates the guy i i have talked to people who said i voted for joe biden in 2020 who you're voting for
Starting point is 00:06:20 this time trump yeah young people old people now i've certainly met don't get me wrong trump derangement syndrome people we've had we've told those stories but how is it that i go to dc dc is 92 democrat and i'm talking to regular people and they're just like i'm not voting for that guy who's giving him money it's got to be corporations it's my guess corporations can't just give money like that joe biden his campaign has received millions of dollars a quote-unquote corporation can have like an officer donate a max of a couple thousand dollars that's it i think the people that are most likely to support biden or me and ian were talking about this just a moment ago before we started the people that are most likely to support biden are the people with money
Starting point is 00:07:00 and that don't want things to change right right? If they're making like a, if you're making like four, five, $600,000 a year, maybe a million dollars a year, you're making enough money where you can throw a lot of money at political, you have a lot of disposable income, right? You're not conspicuously rich, but you're definitely rich, right?
Starting point is 00:07:20 And you're gonna go to work every day, but you don't want anything to change because you're gonna be set for life in 10 years right everything will be fine you'll have a boatload of money you don't have to worry about anything your kids will be set and the last thing they want is for things to change so they just want the status quo and i think those people are are thinking that don are the same people that think donald trump messed things up it was a certain way before trump trump came along and messed everything up and they wanted to go back to the way before donald trump they were hoping that joe biden was going to be the way you know go back to the way things were and i think
Starting point is 00:07:53 that they're really mad that it's not working but i still think that they're of the mindset that i'm just going to keep throwing money at at the essentially the obama team because most people know that that uh joe biden's entire administration is just the same people that were working there when uh barack obama was the president so i think it's just people that throw money at people that have disposable income and throw as much as they can at those candidates just like the reason why i brought that up is because kathy hokal shows up to an officer's wake and they scream at her to get out. Like, Democrat policy
Starting point is 00:08:27 is leading to such devastation. You've got women getting punched in the face, officers being killed. Who is supporting this? I mean, Anna Kasparian snapped off
Starting point is 00:08:36 on Young Turks about in New York they refused to hold people found with corpses and blood in their drains. And the cops are like, we can't hold them. Crime is one of the things right now that's turning a lot of people around for sure.
Starting point is 00:08:48 And it feels like on the ground level, like you said, it's the least radioactive time for Trump in the sense of like, you can kind of, the temperature is just a little different right now as opposed to while he's president leading up and even before now where you can kind of openly talk about supporting Trump and get a minimal amount of backlash. So it's interesting. It's the first time that I really feel like he could actually win this year, for sure. I mean, his polling is,
Starting point is 00:09:12 there was no polling like this in the last cycle. You know, in 2020, Biden was ahead the whole time. Yeah. And everyone's like, no, the polls are wrong. They were wrong with Hillary. They're wrong with Biden. And Biden ends up winning. And then, you know, now, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:24 we'll see what happens this year. I mean, this is just a year of awakening. I feel like in general, like people are waking up to the reality of a lot of institutions, the Diddy stuff, the Nickelodeon stuff, that's different than Trump. But people are kind of seeing through the veil
Starting point is 00:09:37 of how stuff really works right now. I think there's just more information available to people than ever. Do you see that? Does it mean where it's Kesha waking up in the morning feeling like P. Diddy? What does she mean by that? Yeah, what does she mean? And then there's that.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Do explain. Then Muppet looking like left and right like. Yeah, do explain, Kesha. The thing about people waking up, this is the time of like the awakening. I feel it. But when you wake up, the first thing you see, that's up to the people in the media. Like we're like, oh, now you're awake. Look, now you're woke.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Now you're awake. Look, now you're you're enlightened so like how are they waking up what is the first thing they're going to believe in this new rebirth that they're experiencing well that's the thing woke and redpilled mean the same thing it's just different yeah different belief frameworks woke is a false reality built on post-modernist lies and redpilled is you're actually seeing through the bs and breaking the fractured narrative of the corporate press and the establishment and when you ask people that claim to be woke a lot of times they'll say that the red pill people are delusioned and that the woke people have it right it's it's the the idea that one side has a picture perfect view of reality and the other side is deluded but in reality we're probably all a little deluded and hopefully have some value to
Starting point is 00:10:45 bring to the table i actually think it's a fair assessment that i would say in the quote-unquote red pill which i wouldn't actually want to use the red pill but i would say because we don't really use those terms anymore it's different now in the anti-establishment faction it's 80 percent uh factual and then in the woke side it's's 80% delusion. Like based on your emotions. And I feel like also wokeness though has dominated culture for so long now. Like even during the entire Trump presidency, it's like that was still the dominant sort of ideology going on in the media, social media, et cetera. And now I feel like people, it's been long enough. People can kind of see for themselves, like it's actually not working.
Starting point is 00:11:24 All these ideas we had about race and gender and how the world really works and if trump was really hitler or not it's like they can kind of see that it's not the case you know and people are seeing also a lot of really crazy stuff happening under biden there's really no excuse anymore to blame it on trump these people thought voting for joe biden would bring them back to 2010 or something and he it didn't. It just made everything worse. No, they thought that Donald Trump, you're right, they did think that it was going to bring them back before Donald Trump. They thought that Donald Trump was the cause.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And for the past almost decade, almost decade, I've been saying Donald Trump is a symptom of what is going on in society. Donald Trump has caused nothing donald trump is the cause of absolutely zero of our problems he is a result and a symptom and as long as people don't understand that they're going to keep behaving as if donald trump is the problem and keep voting for the things that they were voting for before Donald Trump, which are the exact same things that gave us Donald Trump. I think that's quite astute. And I think also Biden's not the cause of the problems and he's not the savior. Trump's not like this, this progress into the, I don't know what we call it, the devolvement of the United
Starting point is 00:12:41 States government into this global corporatization where they're just siphoning off our wealth that wasn't a donald trump that that was going to happen that was this plan's been going on since the 1990s at least when george bush senior brought up the new world order for the one of the first times on tv like they've been planning this for quite a long time you understand joe biden was a part of the uniparty establishment machine for 50 years during that time period he was actively involved in it. Yeah. Yeah, he was. So I think it's fair to say, as an individual, Biden isn't the cause of what's going on right now. As a component of the machine, he is. Yeah, he's a big political figurehead making a lot of money off of it. And we kind of all see a little bit of this on a much smaller scale,
Starting point is 00:13:18 obviously. All of us sitting here are some level of public figure. And you know when you're a public figure that to a large extent, you kind of just mirror back whatever people want to see in you so i agree with what phil was saying trump was really just a symptom it was unveiling everything that was kind of sick and wrong with the culture and how the country was being ran not necessarily him doing a bunch of stuff because you can also see how he didn't have all that much power during 2020 the people i mean just to clarify you know i do think it's true for the most part that public figures reflect back what people want to see in them.
Starting point is 00:13:48 But do you mean by that, like, no matter what you do, people will choose like how they think of you? Is that what you mean? To an extent, yeah. And they can make you out
Starting point is 00:13:56 to be whatever they want you to be, you know? They'll highlight only certain things from Trump. Like, here's the Trump timeline. The bloodbath. They select these pieces,
Starting point is 00:14:04 put them together and say, look how bad Trump is. Yeah, and it works less and less now. Like the bloodbath thing recently was a really good example. I didn't see many people genuinely falling for it. And anyone I did see falling for it, their comment section was lit up with people of all over the political spectrum saying, actually, that's ridiculous to paint it that way. And so that's a good sign because you think back to before every person believed that he made fun of the mentally handicapped reporter every person believed he said all these things about you know latinos and black people that just were either not true
Starting point is 00:14:32 or taken out of context it's not as easy to do it we got we got a super chat mad max said trump is not a symptom of the problem he's the response to the problem i actually agree with that yeah for a long time i said he was a symptom of it i think response to it is a better way to frame it yeah that's true yeah i mean i'm i'm i'm comfortable with that that uh you know that that framing as well essentially like look the the people on the left and your average democrat need to understand that maga people are the tea party right like the tea party came in response to what essentially was you know the overreach what what they felt was the overreach of the federal government and a response to the bailouts of the banks right so there was the left response which was occupy wall street and stuff and that got ate eaten up by the whole
Starting point is 00:15:16 intersectional stuff and you had the tea party which was the response to like the the bailouts in response to the aca and they didn't they essentially were like you know these are the things that we want and these are the things we're upset about and all they got from the democrats was oh they're the racist they're clinging to their guns and their god and blah blah blah in and all of the negative stereotypes and so they were like well we brought we we wanted mitt romney who was literally the most Boy Scout ass Boy Scout you can get, right? As milquetoast as you could possibly come up with. They still called him a Nazi.
Starting point is 00:15:49 They still said he was a rapist. They still said he was all these terrible things. And then they're like, well, then Donald Trump shows up and Donald Trump's just like an endless line of middle fingers. And they're like, that's my guy. And that's exactly what happened. So the idea that Donald Trump caused any of this is absolutely detached from reality and ridiculous. But the average person doesn't realize it because CNN will never tell them that and will never explain it in that timeline in a way that they'll understand. It is apparent that he's more either a result of this problem of society or is a symptom or everyone is responsive because like,
Starting point is 00:16:26 he didn't even want to be in politics in the beginning. Like why would he, his kids didn't want it. They were like, dude, Don jr. Is like, dude,
Starting point is 00:16:32 I go into the best parties. Everyone loved me. Now I'm in politics. I mean, it's everywhere I go. It's like polarizing. It's great. And,
Starting point is 00:16:38 and so Don felt senior felt compelled to run. He was like, if things get so bad, I will run. And that that's because it's a symptom of the society getting so bad of this sellout of our of our trump of our government trump said that a long time ago it was like the late 80s or whatever like would you ever run for president oprah asked him or something and he was like if it got really bad and i had to do it but
Starting point is 00:16:56 imagine being don jr and like you were just pointing out you show up to any party and everyone's like yeah and they're cheering you you show up to any party and everyone's like, yeah, and they're cheering. You show up to a party you weren't invited to. Oh, everyone's cheering. Then your dad runs for president and now they hate your guts and they want to put you in prison. They want to steal all your money. And you're just this kid. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Yeah. Things they go through for this. And I think another big part of like the shift we're starting to see in attitudes towards Trump is also you can only beat up on someone so much. They gave him a mugshot. They've said anything and everything. You know, how many times can they believe their people are going to get him until you start to realize, well, maybe if I can see they're lying over here
Starting point is 00:17:32 and all these things that are coming out in the media with how the entertainment industry worked, et cetera, then maybe this is a lie too. You know, watching NBC is wild. It is crazy. All of these hosts, like Joe Scarborough's brain just like fell out of his head a long time ago. The crazy thing is I watched Morning Joe
Starting point is 00:17:49 from like, from the morning after 9-11 or I watched MSNBC from the morning after 9-11 until like 2010 or 2011 when I was just like, I can't take this anymore. And I watched as Joe Scarborough who had a nighttime show
Starting point is 00:18:05 and was pretty center Republican. Like, he used to be a Republican congressman. And if people don't know, but like, I watched him just go completely insane. I personally think it was because of his budding relationship with Mika Brzezinski that was happening behind the scenes. But like, he still went from reasonable, and I watched the whole channel just go completely insane. Tucker Carlson
Starting point is 00:18:30 was on MSNBC. He was, yeah. I remember Scarborough being very reasonable. Yeah, Scarborough country. 2007, I think he was against the war in Iraq. He wasn't big on the Middle Eastern wars, and then I dipped out for 15 years, and now when I see him, it seems like I'm watching Keith Olbermann. Yeah. Like, it was in his mind. I don't like it. What if what happened is that a meteor crashed on earth carrying a bunch of slugs
Starting point is 00:18:49 that enter a person's brain in their sleep and take them over and that's what we're experiencing how else do you how else do you explain you know uh people like joe scarborough their their brains turning to jello like the people who have just genuinely gone insane it's like well i'm kidding about the aliens i know media matters are gonna write the tim paul believes aliens have come scarborough did it for the nookie but like other people he did all for the nookie because mika brzezinski was like let me tell you really she's like let me teach you about politics yeah i'm here to learn yeah i love limp biscuit um you should go buy their newest record it's awesome um but anyways uh they mika brzezinskizinski and Joe Scarborough started a relationship while they were both working,
Starting point is 00:19:30 while they were both married and while they both worked at, started doing Morning Joe. So. Well, let's talk about Trump, though, because like it's about, yeah, can he win? Can he win? He can get the votes for sure. Can he survive? Will this deep state let him live and do his thing? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:19:44 But maybe if we can get Trump to work on this new world order thing and we can all come together and be like, let's make a new world order legitimately that's better than the old than the liberal economic order that uses American constitutionalism will help lead. We don't have to be in front every second. You know, we work together. I agree. I mean, let's let's invade Canada. Well, just culturally first, ideally.
Starting point is 00:20:18 In 2028, my plan will be to explore running for president under the platform that I will bring all troops back, line them up on the northern border, and then march into Canada and take what is rightfully ours. You got my vote. Canada was almost ours in the War of 1812. Yeah. And we went for Montreal Montreal and then they burned down the White House. Your plan actually has a better chance
Starting point is 00:20:29 of having people receive us as liberators than Iraq did because there are a lot of people that are very much like Americans in Canada that are like, yo, our Canadian government is out of hand.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Like they have gotten, they're going ham up there with like the coming down on people for speech and for internet posts. And he took away handguns, Trudeau. Yeah. They're lateral.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Did he like sign a piece of paper and said, no one, the crazy thing is they were, they're passing gun laws in response to things that happened in the United States. So it's totally about virtue signaling. They had, I mean, cause it's a whole different context in canada what their gun what their gun laws are and their culture up there like like who's carrying guns what like and and what the people feel like they should be allowed to do when it comes to handguns and stuff it's totally different so for them to be to respond to a crime in the united states by banning guns up there it's all because um because trudeau is a clown of a politician that is only worried about the way that his image is on the international scene it's all about him we got to liberate canada i mean look i'm not for you know an expansive kind of you know international
Starting point is 00:21:42 uh foreign policy but i tell you what those the maple brothers and sisters need love when you see see here's here's my view is that uh the there's a shared culture dating back to the time of the colonies between us and many of those colonists and those people are being oppressed by their government thus giving us a justification so the first thing we'll do is we will politely request that they cede the territory of montreal not i'm not saying all of quebec but montreal to us and if they refuse then we invade well i think that i think that we'll have better chance i'm not serious by the way i think we'll have better chance with your plan if we don't go after the french and we go after the the english-speaking canadians because they're more polite than the
Starting point is 00:22:24 french canadians are the french canadians are much much more likely to tell you tim cast has the French and we go after the English speaking Canadians because they're more polite than the French Canadians or the French Canadians are much more likely to tell you to F yourself. Timcast has had two number ones in Edmonton. Is that Saskatchewan? We're going there first, baby. We'll be greeted as liberators. The problem with liberating a territory
Starting point is 00:22:40 and not conquering it, just liberating it and letting it become free is what we see in Cuba. We can see a result of America liberating Cuba from the Spanish empire and then just letting it be free. And then it became a communist dictatorship. Oops, could have made that a state, part of the United States in retrospect. If they knew ahead of time what was to come, would they have just conquered it? I always go back and forth on how free they actually want to be because obviously we all probably have a lot of audience that is from canada and so they want to be free
Starting point is 00:23:10 but it's also i think we underestimate as americans how dystopian it really is they're like they kill their poor in the they do the suicides now they're now they're doing like medical assistance in death for autism and depression and that's crazy yeah well look once the population drops substantially, then we don't even need to liberate. We just walk in and there's nobody there. It's like, well, you know. They left all this stuff for us.
Starting point is 00:23:32 A lot of maple syrup. Are they, what's that, where you start to love your captor? Stockholm Syndrome. Do they have Stockholm Syndrome against the king of England? Because whenever I'll be like, Canada's part of the monarchy, that's what they say. They'll be like, no, no, we're not. No, we're not. Don't even even look over here avoid that piece of paper that
Starting point is 00:23:47 says we are we're not we're you we're a solo country we're and you're like dude you're part of the british commonwealth they own you they can shut off your parliament like you guys got to get away from monarchy what can i tell you but they can't they can't shut off the parliament the king can disband parliament at least it's vestigial technically well bro we have laws on the books say you can't put pie in your window sill on sunday no cop is going to come and stop you putting pie we've never seen a king exercises authority in the modern era and what happens when you don't exercise you lose your muscle i'd be willing to bet that if the king came out and was like i have cancer so i'm taking over canada they'd be like no just total
Starting point is 00:24:24 succession not only that didn't canada have'd be like no just total secession not only that didn't canada have some declaration in like 1950 about suffering from the king or something like that anyway i'm i'm not sure i think there's still uh still connections to the crown uh in canada there's there's technicalities that people don't ever probably on along the lines of blue laws in the united states um but if i understand correctly there are still uh ties that bind uh canada to the uh to england i mean they still have the queen or they had the queen on their money you know until i don't know if they put the king on their money now um but i know that the queen was on their money for a while so there's got to be some kind of connection
Starting point is 00:25:01 i i i i would be interested to see what would happen if the king was like i'm taking over new zealand australia or whatever yeah i mean as far as i'm concerned australia is a vassal of the united states well australia they actually had their government dissolved or frozen by the queen i believe so this is yeah i'm i am this is super wave tops information so i'm gonna google um well let's let's let's shift over to what's going on new york city we have this is an interesting story from scnr former real housewife star bethany frankel says she was randomly hit in the face in new york city so it's a crazy crime spree and i don't understand it and i'm sorry for all the other women that it's happening to, Frankel said.
Starting point is 00:25:45 There's been a wave of women being randomly punched in the face in the Big Apple. Frankel, 53, commented on a video by a fashion student who said she was punched, writing the same thing that happened to her a few months before. So this has been going on a lot longer than people realize. And I want to pull up this meme from Austin Peterson that he responded to. Let me see if I have it right here here we go let's pull this one up so um we had brad palumbo respond to me saying no the violent victimization of innocent women at random is not hilarious no matter how insane some of nyc's policies which not all new yorker support are to which aust Austin Peterson says, it can be hilarious when it includes irony.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Irony is inherently humorous. If they didn't vote for it, then it's not funny. They didn't expect the Democrat voting would lead to this. Oh, whoops, slipped on a banana peel I just dropped. And he shows this old meme from back during Occupy. This was in Portland. A woman screaming while getting blasted in the face with high-pressure pepper spray.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And it says, wants more government and more government there it is it's literally what it is so in New York when they when they when AOC comes out and says I want to get rid of police they go I'm gonna vote for her and then she goes we're gonna strip NYPD
Starting point is 00:27:00 of 1 billion dollars a six of their funding they go I'm gonna vote for that again and then a guy walks up, punches him in the face and they go, why is this happening to me? I'm like, well, you know, what do you want me to do about it? It's so specific though. Is it organized like people planning to just punch? It seems like there's
Starting point is 00:27:15 a million things you can do to violently assault someone. It's all so specific. Mentally ill people who are being released are going around and just punching people. It is terrifying to see like people committing horrendous crimes getting no jail time let out immediately and it is what you vote for you know there are a certain percentage of every population that does not possess the ability to function in normal society that's all there is to it. Like some people have mental illness, some people have, you know, drug problems, whatever it is, but there are certain things that you have to do
Starting point is 00:27:52 to maintain a home, to stay, you know, to be able to function in society. And there are people that just aren't going to be able to do that. And what we have decided to do with them is just let them go and be on the streets and as long as that's our answer this is what's going to happen because it was like put them in insane asylums or whatever you called them in the 80s it used to be insane asylums and then when and then when people were violent they it just turned into people that throw them in jail take a look at this other people just tried to completely annihilate kill that segment of the population like you genocide so this is a video from andy no and he says take a look inside i don't know if he filmed it but he posted it take a look inside this is a tiny home that got set up they buy these for the homeless the city pays
Starting point is 00:28:39 sixteen thousand dollars for similar similar housing units for the homeless. It's in Portland. And that's it. An abandoned cesspool of garbage and filth. Yeah. And so they're- It's literally a trash can. And their solution is don't call them homeless. They're houseless. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:54 They're unhoused. Unhoused, yeah. And what they're doing is they're like, we're going to spend a bunch of money buying little homes for them to live in. And then they dump inside of them, turn them into garbage and then leave. It's like the house clearly isn't the problem here. You know, it's a million other
Starting point is 00:29:08 things that they don't want to address. Yeah. And you see this whenever, you know, I lived in LA for many years and blue city, blue state, that's the best way to learn that you probably shouldn't vote blue. I mean, just living in that, that is a scene that you're likely to see walking around anywhere in LA, New York, big cities. Look, in new york you can't defend yourself yeah it is quite literally as sultan it's described if if you if you're in new york and you defend yourself or others they put you in jail like daniel penny they're trying to lock that guy up that's insane yeah it is and because of the behaviors that that the governments of these cities are, you know, because the policies they're instituting,
Starting point is 00:29:47 you're only going to get more of this. And this is actually something that is intentional. You know, there were tweets yesterday that I was sharing of people saying, you know, we aren't going to make anything better by putting people in jail. There are just some people that cannot be in society it's a small percentage but the problem is there's millions of people in new york city and when you have a gigantic population even if it's 0.5 percent that's a lot of people because it only takes one person to cause absolute mayhem and so if you've got a certain amount of the population that are just
Starting point is 00:30:27 completely unprepared to live a, what we consider a normal life, then they're going to cause problems. And the people on the left are consistently saying, just because they have an alternative way of knowing the world and they had their neurodivergent and because they experienced the world different to you doesn't mean they're bad and we can't treat them bad and we can't take away their liberty and blah blah blah blah blah and it is absolutely insane meanwhile it's
Starting point is 00:30:55 one of the cruelest you know 100 you can take for these people it's basically just saying f off allow them to f off and if they invade your space well then maybe you shouldn't have been in their space it's it's cruel to them because especially if you live in these cities or just visit one and you see it's like it's so not a normal human thing to walk by people on the street and not know if they're like alive or dead and that's a common thing oh yeah every day walking la is crazy it's insane i would and i realized what it did to even my psyche once i moved away that like I just felt healthier. It's like, well, maybe I'm not walking past
Starting point is 00:31:28 dying people every day. Where did you live when you were in Hollywood? The middle of it. And then you go to Austin for the first time and you're hanging out with Malice and you're like, so this is a great place, but where are all the dead bodies? Like, we don't have those. Something's missing.
Starting point is 00:31:40 You don't have those? Is it the smell? Is it the smell? There's no sour milk, needles, and dead people. It's like, yeah, we don't have that here. the smell there's no sour milk needles and dead people it's like yeah we don't have that here but it demoralizes you too it's like i think the really scary part of this is that it's no coincidence that you know it defies logic that you would let someone out like you said earlier the story annika sparing was talking about like corpses found and that person gets let out but it's intentional i think I think it's to demoralize and destroy the city.
Starting point is 00:32:05 I just thought of something. What? What if we literally get a scenario where Trump shoots someone on Fifth Avenue because a guy is about to punch a woman in the face and then Trump's with a security detail and like grabs the gun and saves the woman or whatever. Oh God, it's a great campaign.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I'm just like, Trump famously says he could shoot a person on Fifth Avenue and not lose any votes. And if the context was he's saving the life of a woman who's about to be killed by a deranged murderer
Starting point is 00:32:29 then it's like and like a bunch of children he saves like a family of seven well then they would go to race was the homeless person you know black or white and then they balance it out
Starting point is 00:32:37 no they would just they would just say the person was like Kyle Rittenhouse you know in addition to the toxic compassion that leads to people letting you know
Starting point is 00:32:44 deranged individuals out on the street, they're great. Let them out. There's the big business of homelessness, which is just really disturbing, where they are people, these middle management, they make $50,000, $100,000 a year to oversee a community. Nonprofits. Nonprofits, these companies, who knows what, NGOs. If the homeless find houses, they're all out out of jobs so they don't want it to stop they make so much money I need to tell you I think non-profits are a
Starting point is 00:33:10 big portion of the problems in this country and the reason is we can complain about for-profit business all day and night. T-Mobile maybe you've had bad customer service but they make you got a phone that works you call people on it and then maybe the company can have bad things but what if
Starting point is 00:33:24 you start a business and the purpose of your business is fixing windows? You know, Ryan Long did this Antifa window repair. At night, they're Antifa. In the morning, they're fixing the windows and they're getting paid. Nonprofits, they don't want to go under. So what do they do? They perpetuate the problem. Or they exaggerate the problem or they exaggerate the problem.
Starting point is 00:33:45 They lie about the problem. But a lot of nonprofits don't actually want to solve the problem they claim to be facing because then they're out of jobs. It concerns me about the illegal immigration to like what nonprofits are popping up right now. Our NGOs are popping up to create like a permanent state of illegal immigration and profiting off of it. Look, that's what immigration at this pace of illegal immigration 300 000 per month we're looking at the the complete dissipation of the united states within a few years oh absolutely it's i think the homelessness is part and parcel to it oh yeah they're connected issue because a lot of those people could be
Starting point is 00:34:20 illegal immigrants i wouldn't know walking by the guy laying on the side of the road any of them are yeah yeah true i mean look at look at chicago they were going to build a a camp they started they started construction on a camp and people revolted and they stopped so they just got all these illegal immigrants just sleep in random places and so what are they doing they're taking over public buildings and giving them to non-citizens and then you think of it's a slightly different you know topic but just all the laws in california allowing people to bum rush into stores and just steal just so much stuff you know and it's like it's clear that there's an intentional destruction of society that's underway right now did you feel that while you were living there oh absolutely especially during this is why we were saying before we went on camera it was like you really saw who was who during the pandemic and COVID because it was clear as day. It was like, oh, this is intentional. Everyone losing their jobs, despair, you know, people being scared, you but for the most part it was like there's there was one there's like one store nearby i don't want to call them out but they had
Starting point is 00:35:28 like you have to wear a mask and then there's another store comparable one like competition across street no mask and it's like well we all know where we're going yeah so people in west virginia were just like i'm not wearing that that's part of the problem with it in a way is that like everyone's idea of what really went down during that is so disjointed based on where you lived like you could have lived out here where you probably felt it or you could have lived where i lived where there was tanks on the street when we were like wow when it first started we were in jersey and we had a backyard the backyard had a big concrete slab and a mini ramp so for the most part like ian's sitting in the back starting fires in the fire pit
Starting point is 00:35:59 we're like we're hanging out after the show just sitting there enjoying a nice fire pit and we're like this is what we normally do anyway. So there was no great stressor on us. I'd wake up, work all day in the house. We would go out to eat sometimes. And then when things locked down, we were just like, I don't know. Then the helicopters began. We started hearing helicopters and we were like, maybe it's time to get out of here.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Well, it was the riots. The riots crossed the bridge into the Jersey side. But for people in New York, you are locked in your cubicle. Your cubicle little box apartment you couldn't leave and you're sitting there for weeks yeah that's like rotting i gotta get i gotta empathize with those people i think there's a lot of those people that are just traumatized that i was living in a two-bedroom at the time trauma the the issue is that what new york should have done is the week about one week into people being told to lock down they should have chained all of their doors shut so they couldn't get out yeah they did that is the week, about one week into people being told to lock down, they should have chained all of their doors shut
Starting point is 00:36:47 so they couldn't get out. Yeah, they did that in, I hear that worked in China. Yeah. Five-star review. They were welding doors shut. There's one video where they're taking a gigantic metal beam and they're putting it between a wall and the door so the door can't be opened.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Yeah, it's insane. And then they were like, we have zero COVID, everyone. They announced they had no more COVID in the country. A guy pushed his refrigerator onto his balcony and opened it to show he had no food left. That's so sick. Don't want to live in China. Insane. You are a meat cog in their machine.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And I think people, part of going back to like all the crime we're seeing now that's waking hopefully a lot of people up, is that I think people had an idea that after COVID it was getting better, you know. But then they came in and enacted all the laws that you could shoplift and just destroy businesses and so it didn't really get better they just created new problems yeah the border the open border is insane yeah but we do have good news ladies and gentlemen we got him illegal immigrant tiktok influencer who told others how to squat in American homes has been arrested by ICE. We got him, ladies and gentlemen. And he was crying. He was so sad.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Yeah. So not that I... He was crying when he got picked up? That's great. No, he was crying in some TikTok video about... Or some video online about how they were kind of... They were banning him from TikTok or something. Oh, drag.
Starting point is 00:37:59 But... I thought he was getting deported. I believe he is going to be deported. He skipped. So this is what they did. He illegally enters. They give him a notice to appear date, and he just throws in the garbage. Because that's what they all do.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Then he says, I'm making a bunch of money. Why don't you guys just steal Americans' homes? And the only reason, I assure you, he regrets making that video. Because if he didn't make that video, they'd have given him a pat on the back. Yeah. It was a disgusting video. Just the energy of it. It was the energy of it was like yeah well this country's being invaded it's being invaded by people who know they can steal property and it's happening in places like new york because new york is run by communists kathy hokal and latisha james are trying their hardest
Starting point is 00:38:37 to burn new york to the ground you know i i think i look did you know latisha james is like 60 something years old i think she's 65 she does not look good for her she looks young yeah but they're trying as hard as they can let me let me let me pull up uh i think she's 65 she is 65 years old isn't that crazy i feel like they are far leftists who a long time ago said we need to infiltrate the system so we can destroy everything around us and they did and that's what they're doing there's there's no logic behind any of their plans no just burning it all the ground and what's really sick is if you if you you know that if there was like a disproportionate they would vote red all the immigrants coming in it's like they wouldn't be doing this it's
Starting point is 00:39:17 literally it's literally because they can get more votes it's a big part of it it's also just changing the landscape of the country, destroying culture. Yeah, I think the votes that they're going to, just being part of the census, all these extra congressional seats go to the House. Are they going to the House of Representatives? Are they going to the House of Representatives? They just get a bunch more congressional representatives?
Starting point is 00:39:38 That's what the census does. Oh, my God. It's the same number of representatives. It's just how they get a portion. My first thought with this dude that got caught, this guy who's getting deported, was that they should make him make a new video saying, do not come here and do not take people's houses. It's like, I want to force this guy.
Starting point is 00:39:55 But this is what they would have done in Vietnam for the prisoners of war. They have you make a video and say, the Vietnamese are fine. I'm being treated perfectly. I want to make this guy. I want to use him as propaganda to undo the damage he did. But now I'm like,
Starting point is 00:40:07 am I the psychopath? Am I the villain trying to make my captor say the thing I want him to say to manipulate people? Maybe I am, but I want to manipulate people for good. Now that's the psychopath. I don't even know how you could be that much of a loser to be proud of the fact that you're stealing a home.
Starting point is 00:40:21 I mean, that's just, I don't know where that comes from. He must literally have thought there are empty houses and just they're available. He must have thought that because he was so much fervor. No, he was- I think it was more nefarious.
Starting point is 00:40:34 It was malice. I think it was like, I can do whatever I want. What are you going to do about it? Yeah. You know, and that's what's sick because there's no way that's just one off. You know, there's clearly that mentality in general happening. Not with all of them, obviously, but it's not like it's non-existent. You see it here a you know just one off you know there's clearly that mentality in general happening not with all of them obviously but it's not like it's non-existent you see it here you know yeah
Starting point is 00:40:50 it was actually terrifying to listen to him yeah to see the animalism in his eyes as he's like we're gonna take take take yeah like who are you country aside where you're coming from but who are you as a person you know like there there are people that are just inherently malicious towards others like that was like he intentionally made it like that there was no there's no no misunderstanding the tone there was no misunderstanding the look on his face there was no misunderstanding the the intonation of his voice um even if you didn't understand the words you got that it was not friendly warm and inviting and trying to you know sound like he wanted to come to america and do and have gainful employment and actually start a business he was looking to
Starting point is 00:41:37 take stuff from people and you know and make it his own and and steal it you know so and that's that is there are people like that. And also the people that are motivated to leave their countries are motivated to leave their countries for a reason. They don't have families. They don't have wives. They don't have kids.
Starting point is 00:41:56 They have, or if they, or they're going to send money back, right? Because it's almost like, it's like, I don't know. I don't know the numbers, but it's mostly dudes that are like fairly young dudes that have been coming across. Dude, it's almost like it's like i don't know i don't know the numbers but it's mostly dudes that are young like fairly young dudes that have been coming across dude it's economic migrants people that want to come here make money somehow and either send it back or you know just make money and and try to live the best life they can but the sorry no good the optimist in me you know that's still there thank god does feel like maybe it's a good thing this story happened and this person did go viral because it kind of shows that like that sort of, you know, blue pilled narrative of like, oh, it's just a helpless family and they're just trying to find the American dream and it's stacked against them.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And, you know, we have to help them. It's like that's not in that at all. That's a straight predator, you know, and if they can, people can just see that. Hopefully it wakes them up. I'll try to be optimistic with it. Yeah, I think you're right. This is like an inoculation time in human history where we're becoming rapidly adaptable
Starting point is 00:42:54 to fake crap and new stuff and resilient towards believing the first thing we see and overriding our compassion to do the right thing. I think that we're definitely in that age right now. At the very least, the younger generations are completely ignoring the corporate press yeah they've just become like joe scarborough and cnn msnbc they may as well just be saying because nothing they say any like younger people just like yeah yeah we get it you're lying it's what my grandma watches you know it's like it's not maybe maybe people are becoming better at reading tone because this guy's tone was insane in the video it was like vile anger
Starting point is 00:43:30 danger guy like bad bad bad man just from his tone i didn't get listen know what he was saying but you could tell and i think people that would consider themselves on the left are very emotionally driven they're driven by tone so they probably sense this guy's malice and just holding the baby and stuff gave it like a really you know gross vibe so hopefully it is waking people up i haven't seen the one where where he was holding the baby was that a different person i just thought no that was him i'm pretty sure yeah yeah yep was it like a baby doll like a toy no it was like a human baby like a human baby but you never want to sound like a dog baby or yeah it was like a human one but you never want to see like an angry or yeah it was like a human one but you
Starting point is 00:44:05 never want to see like an angry person like that who's giving off those predator vibes holding a baby it's like it's not a good look which is a good thing that it's not a good look for that almost all of these law enforcement stories are about illegal immigrants raping children jeez yeah it's like recent ones new ones yeah yeah just like all over it's it's it's nuts and and the thing is those are the egregious crimes that we hear about in the press. Think about all the stuff you just don't hear about. Think about the fact
Starting point is 00:44:28 that most people don't even report crimes when they happen. Guy gets his phone stolen. What's he going to do? They set your phone on your head. You're going to call the cops. The cops are going to be like, I wasn't taking a report on that.
Starting point is 00:44:35 You lost your phone. Well, good luck. Most people I know, I would say that have been victims of crimes and nothing huge really, but you know, people don't really call the cops. Everyone kind of has an inherent like, eh, towards eh towards the cops like what are they going to do there's a significant uh bias to
Starting point is 00:44:50 not call the police if there's no um no kind of like damage to your but your person right if you if you don't get hurt or if no one gets hurt if it has to be a significant property crime for people to be like yo people won't even call because their car gets vandalized. Right. Someone goes and smashes their car or whatever. Call your insurance company because the police aren't going to do anything about it. If your car gets stolen, it's probably not worth telling the police and just going right to your insurance company. I imagine because the cops aren't in the business of tracking down stolen cars they just don't do it if they catch people stealing them they grab the people um but they're
Starting point is 00:45:30 not in the business of like let's go find all those cars that get stolen so you know there's no incentive to call the police for anything other than you know i'm in danger and there are police uh police departments across the country that are starting to say, we can't even cover that. Yeah. And there's a lot of people, you know, and I'm included in this that kind of have the philosophy that if something were to happen, say someone breaking in my home, someone physically assaulting me, my mind wouldn't even go to police until the situation's already resolved,
Starting point is 00:46:02 whether it's me defending myself or whatever, getting out of it. Then you think, okay, maybe I should do that now because there's no feasible way for them to help you. That's why you have to have guns. When, what is it? When seconds matter, police are minutes away. Yeah, yeah. But that's what happens
Starting point is 00:46:18 when you live in a place like New York. Even when we had Luke on, we were talking about gun ownership in New York and the risk of like, what if someone's got a 308 and they're in their apartment and they shoot it? It rips through a bunch of the like a bunch of buildings and hits a kid or something. And Luke stumbled. He did. He said, maybe we should restrict certain rounds.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I was like, oh, there you go. Maybe you should just be responsible. And, you know, if you shoot a weapon like that, you get in trouble for it. There are already crimes against, there are property crimes. There are crimes against accidentally harming people. There are laws against that. There are laws against improper use of a firearm. There's laws against firing a firearm improperly in places there are more laws than you need to cover that this
Starting point is 00:47:08 making one more law that says you can't have that gun because it might go through a a you might hit someone is not gonna this is why we we need the justice lords do you know what that is when the justice league and an alternate reality became despots and just took over the planet nice because the problem is you'll you'll have a guy who is driving in his car and then uh oh i got a story for you a guy was driving in his car and this was in illinois and then he rear-ended a vehicle in front of him killing three of the people in that car because he was at full speed going 70 miles an hour up the ramp they were stopped slammed into him, launched him forward. Car got hit a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Everybody dies. It was a car malfunction. There was an accelerator issue that caused the car to accelerate out of control. That guy went to prison. Why did he go to prison? Is he a criminal? No. Was there in his mind criminal intent?
Starting point is 00:47:58 No. Did he intentionally do anything? He did not. But the family that was emotionally impacted demanded that he go to prison because they want to feel better there are a lot of instances where people go to go to go to jail not because they're criminals because people want to feel better there's a lot of instances where people go to jail not because they're criminals but because they accidentally drove over a bridge carrying their legally permitted weapon and a cop didn't care and went and locked her up so the i'm joking about a supreme despot but i understand why a lot of people are saying they want a strong man to come and take over because they want rigid, uniform, focused cleansing of criminal actions and corruption in the country. we have the end result was always going to be the gradual accumulation of corruption why because the
Starting point is 00:48:46 underlying ethos of our of our civil order is that guilty persons should be free so that innocent persons are protected but that means over a long enough time you build a kind of a crust around the edge of the bull you got to scrape it off eventually well i don't have all the all the answers but there are a lot of people who see that and say just just send in the emperor, let him come and clean everything up. And then we start over. Right. I don't know that you'll ever get to start over as soon as you have something like that though,
Starting point is 00:49:10 unless you get lucky with like a Cincinnati or you could just go the route of Rome and then you get varying empires and varying civil wars and the whole thing explodes. And then you get the dark ages. Yeah. The United States is too valuable to give to the hands of a man. It's that's why we have this decentralized unification. And honestly, if we can keep local police tight and strong, we're good.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Otherwise, we will need a strong man to torch it all to the ground and start over. I think it's inevitable because if you look at Rome and how it went from, you know, it's a republic, but then eventually there's like, okay, enough of this. You know, we're taking over. It's an empire now. The same is going gonna happen here that it when the when the corruption builds up enough that the system cannot maintain itself it will break and when it does strong men will fight each other until one person takes over and then you have an empire so all right good part of it's the destruction of community right because i've heard a lot about how you know in new york city there used to be a big culture of and people have problem with it partly
Starting point is 00:50:09 but you know italian gangs were policing the streets and italian gangs would kind of hang around certain neighborhoods and you couldn't just get away with coming in and punching a random woman in the face or coming in and raping someone or robbing someone because that was sort of how it was you know there was a sort of essence of like, we police our own streets, whether the cops do it or not. And now, I mean, the only vigilante story I can even think of in recent times is Rittenhouse, and they tried to destroy him.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Well, I mean, and Daniel Punney now, who's currently in, and he barely qualifies as any kind of vigilante. He just was trying to stop someone from hurting other people on the subway. Yeah, that just doesn't exist anymore. You know, everyone's in their own zone, in their own world. And there's how many videos do you see?
Starting point is 00:50:51 I see them all the time where a woman or anyone is being hit by some random crazy person and everyone's just watching. Worse filming. Yeah, right. So Thomas Massey tweeted this this morning and i uh i retweeted it in his estimation there are three places we end up he says steer our government away from economic collapse one two economic collapse and then renaissance totalitarianism or national divorce which i think all three i think renaissance is unlikely totalitarianism or national divorce are the ones
Starting point is 00:51:21 that would end up happening or a slow devolution into chinese style communism and central control that's the one that's most likely because of like the internet and people's reliance on on uh devices that are constantly monitoring you so i mean it's not exactly a happy um outlook but i think it's probably the most likely. Yeah, and you read the last line of that, slow devolution into Chinese style communists and central control. No one remembers freedom. I mean, that is, I think, you're right. If we do nothing, the most likely outcome is we'll become
Starting point is 00:51:55 technological serfs. That's what they want. James Lindsay's talk coined digital cattle. I think the intro to three body problem should be required in schools for children to watch. What's that? Have you guys seen it?
Starting point is 00:52:07 No. There, yeah, there should be education on all totalitarianism. So communism as well as Nazism, it's, it's, you get a decent understanding of how bad Nazism is.
Starting point is 00:52:21 You don't get any understanding of how bad communism is. And communism is arguably as bad as, or worse worse than than nazism because of the number just the sheer numbers all right let's uh oh it's hard to frame it properly i'll only show like a quick couple seconds just because... I thought it was colorized footage of the movie. No, this is the show Three-Body Problem. So they have a physics professor in a dunce cap on stage while they're all screaming. And they tell him to reject science.
Starting point is 00:53:01 What she's saying right now, she's also a physics professor. That's his wife. Right. And she's saying right now she's also a physics professor that's his wife and right and she's unharmed and she says the youth of the revolution have showed me the way i was completely wrong about everything certainly you will renounce your your incorrect views and then they end up just beating him to death he's like physics are real yeah and that's the way it is and they say like uh and and you claim that there is a god or something and he's like there's no evidence one way or the other and they just start beating him to death yeah and then the thing is that so that is emblematic of of things that actually happen
Starting point is 00:53:33 in china you you can hear stories about uh tophan lysenko and medical and lysenkoism in the soviet union which is essentially he was like, hey, this is how plants like it. It's literally the Brondo story. Okay, that's it's where the it's where it came from. They were like, he's like, look, plants are communist. All of that, that Darwinism stuff. That's all Western. And that's all that's all just bullcrap.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Plants are communist so if you plant plants that are like each other close to each other they will flourish because they will actually help each other which is absolute horse crap and it caused a massive famine and killed millions and millions of people and this is something that happens in communist countries all the time it is counter enlightenment it doesn't it rejects reality it rejects the fact that we can we can know reality close enough so that way we can predict outcomes and because and you see it today when it comes to people talking about the ability to change genders and you know with blair here it's like blair is a trans woman but blair is under no illusions as to if she becomes a biological woman she's not there's no point to divorce those two
Starting point is 00:54:52 things you know what i mean and that's the the difference yeah and you end up and you end up hurting people when you tell them that but that that actual science and biological facts reality like plants don't need to be planted on top of each other because they compete for resources in the soil. Like that kind of stuff spreads through your society and it kills people. Remember, and it trickles out to so many different things,
Starting point is 00:55:16 you know, unhoused, not homeless. And then you're suddenly denying the ways to actually help people. Yes. Or like some of my favorite is pig iron. Yeah. So they melted down all the tools. What is it for for weapons or something is that they're trying to make uh i believe just to make like kilns it's just it was like to jumpstart china into a like industrial power
Starting point is 00:55:36 so all it was make a whole bunch of crappy metal that didn't work and then uh because this is the fascinating thing about someone who's really dumb, who doesn't understand surface level thinking. It's like, hey, we need an industrial revolution. That'll make us wealthy. I know. Let's take all the tools we have and turn that into industry. And then they made garbage that didn't work and then they all starved. And then they went and killed all the sparrows. Remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was gonna say
Starting point is 00:55:58 they doubled down after. All the crops were failing and they're like, oh, well, the crops are failing and they're being eaten by the sparrows. And then the locusts came. And then there's so many locusts and those sparrows dude it's unreal you guys are 100 right and these are things that people don't know about communism like it is not an enlightenment philosophy it rejects the idea that we can know reality at closely enough that we can predict the future and it says that romanticism is a better way to do it that was all rousseau's stuff that we need to be be animals first
Starting point is 00:56:32 and civilized second so we need to be animals in cities and we need to embrace that as opposed to reason because reason is fallible and reason can be can be mistaken and and we can make errors in reason so the most real thing that human beal human beings can can experience is our emotions so we should follow those and that's how you get i want society to be perfect let's make a sci-fi short film where it starts with some people hiding in an attic. And then like the finale of it is dudes in like white unitards with weird sci-fi looking guns break in and the people are like screaming. Then like the dad gets up and he has like a stick and he's like, get back. And then they grab him and they jab the gun into the side of his temple and click it. And then when they pull it out, there's a Neuralink in his head and he goes.
Starting point is 00:57:28 And then he turns around to his family and then he goes and he grabs their kids and then they all stick them with the chips and then they all they all turn and go we're sorry about that and they all walk downstairs that's a good intro to like a series like that's the cold intro three minutes or something that'd be badass you got people like hiding underground and the people who are in the hive neural link are trying to find resistors and chip them like there's part part of me thinks that in the future there are going to be people that are transhuman and not transhuman and there's going to be transhumans that are specifically that specifically take it upon themselves to defend the non-transhumans so that way there are actual human beings that are allowed to be purely human beings like they're going to be a religious religious group of people that are
Starting point is 00:58:04 like we don't want any of this transhumanism. And it's going to take trans humans that have augmented abilities to protect the pure humans from other trans humans. Think about where this goes. Like real sci-fi shit. A hundred years from now. It's like Marvel comics. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:18 A hundred years from now, the average human is, they've got personal biofields that protect them from harm. They're immortal. They, they wear sleek unitards and they can float through the air and then there are amish type mennonites who don't want to become and then funny thing is probably it's like traditional conservative today like we do not want to become whatever you are and so they're basically in zoos they're effectively in reserves where they can giant enclosed farms and then they just grow the
Starting point is 00:58:46 food and the transhumans are all mentally linked and they're just like they they grow food and the food is used so we we have they have no consequence to us and there's weird people floating around and their eyes are glowing and weird crazy and people don't realize how close if it's possible right so there's there's always the the question of this if it's possible to do this it may be it may not be but if it is possible to write you know write experiences into the brain right because that's essentially what neural link is is the goal is to be able to to to to input to put ideas and experiences into the brain without actually having to do it that's the that's the purest virtual reality the dude abides super chat the f in communism stands for food yeah
Starting point is 00:59:30 that's a good one i think because we're talking about communism and how they're the forced you know equalization of the farming industry they're like if we make if we melt down all the iron we'll do this but it had you know implications that they had for him crisper i'm looking at right now coming out of china big time crisper it's gene editing they don't know the implications of this they're like every human is the same if we do equal this all else and it's like yo bro you're you're you're experimenting with the human genome you might have these you could turn people feral you could do lots of different unintended consequences not least of all death to 99 of the people doing it but like uh that on top
Starting point is 01:00:07 of like uh mrna therapy which is also genetic therapy like do they understand the implications of foisting this on the species as a whole i don't think they do well we see that in so many different ways right like the vaccine was an example of that it's like one size fits all it's going to work for every single person no argument against it you know you're not allowed to say well i have this or maybe i don't want it it's like one size fits all which is really the you know outcome of that what's what's fascinating is how it's like what year i don't know what year they oh it's 1989 they introduced the borg i think it was the first season of next generation the borg was introduced yeah that was so so the uh the general premise behind the borg is that a species of human-like people started
Starting point is 01:00:48 creating medical technology and then they started integrating themselves and then eventually they neural linked themselves and became a hive mind you know i i'm not a big fan of where they took it where there's a queen who controls all of it it was much better when it was just a hive of all the thought of all of the beings and so there was no individual yeah just like an ai computer would have been cool but but it is fascinating how uh even before the advent of these technologies we could are like the the boomers who are making that show could see where this would go they need more borg dogs though they don't have enough non-human borgs they'd have cats
Starting point is 01:01:25 borg'd up with them they'd have all their pets well no technically in star trek there's a whole bunch of different species that are awesome yeah because they capture anyone and they assimilate you into their your what is it your technology and your culture will be assimilated resistance is futile and there's there's there's no reason and the fascinating thing is when the crew like when they board the borg vessel they're ignored completely and it's because like when you get like a bacteria in your system like you get an infection it is ignored until there's a an immune response so their idea was like if humans from the federation go into the borg ship the borg just like they're completely not a thing to us until they become a threat then they react
Starting point is 01:02:05 to the you're right like an infection almost i think there's a strong possibility with neuralink this is where we end up because it the way it will start is you already have that dude who tweeted out through neuralink and and i'm excited for the guy this is the challenge you know here's a guy who i believe he's what is he quadriplegic he's quadriplegic to play civ yeah he can play civ i mean that sounds amazing a lot of people are probably happy to have some freedom back in their lives but what happens then is when we advance to read write capabilities even if we do the point where it's just a read no right meaning it can detect input from your brain and put it on a screen meaning you can you'll be sitting in a room with like the doors closed, the windows closed, looking at a screen and you're sending
Starting point is 01:02:49 information out and you're just using your mind and it's happening super fast. You're absorbing information through your eyes with a screen, but you're sending information with your brain. So it's still rapidly speeding up the process. Once we get to that point where it can write to your brain and in your mind, you can see the responses for people the the the exchange of information will be so rapid that it will be like the borg you you will be walking in the street and three guys will turn they'll come at you and you'll have no idea what's going on or why but in their mind they already got the alert police on the lookout be on the lookout for a guy wearing a maroon shirt with a black baseball cap everyone instantly knows and they turn and they point at you and
Starting point is 01:03:28 you're like everyone's mr smith or agent smith yep it's like it's it's not like they all look like agent smith they're all like the woman in red or whatever but everybody's plugged in and as soon as the update comes out everybody's aware before and you you you know that actually that's similar to what happens with the blockchain right as soon as a new block gets added to the blockchain then it gets distributed through the blockchain they all have the same they have they all every node on the blockchain or every every computer on the blockchain has the whole blockchain they've got all the information so it's like it's once it spreads through a system that's it it's there it doesn't happen instantly though it does take time for it to proliferate so things can get changed along the path there are methods of corruption
Starting point is 01:04:07 that you could use to disrupt the system like this is what aliens are though just people augmented with technology an older civilization that survive i think stragglers that are just hanging around still that's trying to make us catch up to speed that's the most terrifying alien is a cybernetic alien in my opinion because that would be the most terrifying alien is a cybernetic alien, in my opinion, because that would be the most challenging to defeat in combat.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I don't, especially if they were solid state, they didn't use like electronics. I don't think you could. There almost is no combat, right? Like, if they're on that level. If they don't eat food,
Starting point is 01:04:37 like you can't starve them out, you can't burn them. I mean, you might be able to melt them. It's not just that, any system that understands binary would be able to infect our entire grid
Starting point is 01:04:45 networks of all of our machines and take them over in only a small a short manner of time yeah but means we could do it to theirs as well but but if they are in in integrated with it dude the machine ai speed this that's this it's a speed it'll become just a speed thing like even if we we could like hack them as soon as you start trying to hack it if it is an ai then it's going to go ahead and know what you're trying to do and it'll write code to stop you every chance let's let's let's let's uh jump to this next story i just saw phil tweeted this out this is fun annika sparian is officially a conservative uh she says i support ron desantis and i will vote for him in 2028 everyone all hail ron desantis i'm kidding she didn't say it like that she said thank, thank you for the free publicity. Yes, the
Starting point is 01:05:25 bipartisan bill that DeSantis just signed protecting homeowners from thieves and squatters should be commended. Post left watch. I love that. I'm one of my favorite accounts. They said, Anna Kasparian praises Ron DeSantis and Florida for passing an anti-squatter bill and criticizes New York and California for sitting on their asses
Starting point is 01:05:42 and doing nothing about it. She undercuts the premise when she says, we don't know how widespread squatting really is. So we I suppose it's only a matter of time before Anna comes out and she's voting for Trump. And I think she might take like that probably would irk her that I said that. But it's reality. You can't deny it. You know, Anna, you're you're you're watching in real time people who believe in psychotic nonsense. It does not make sense to see someone's home. It does not make sense to chop up bodies and put them in the drain and then not go to jail. And Anna knows this.
Starting point is 01:06:14 And when she says this, if this is what it means to be on the left, I'm not on the left anymore. And Jen goes, no, no, no. Trust me, it's not. And then every single time they prove her right. The left comes out and says, yes, we want this. Cenk is trying to maintain this facade for the Young Turks of we're progressive. Trust me. But deep down, the more Anna reads, the more she knows they're wrong.
Starting point is 01:06:35 They're crazy. And Cenk is just going to keep saying, no, no, trust me. Don't worry. I feel like he knows, too, though. Absolutely. You can't be on the same, you know, set with her talking about this and feel like she's wrong. I can't speak to her, you know, to what's going on inside of her head. But it seems like she is she's come in contact with reality. a a counter enlightenment perspective because they they don't set their uh their kind of
Starting point is 01:07:08 foundation or their the way they structure their lives based on reality and i think that you know anna's personal experiences and and the things that she's seeing have started to kind of wear away at the at the romantic idea that or a lot of the romantic ideas on the left what did you say this morning i think anna got mugged i do honestly i think she i think she got she had a negative experience with uh i believe a homeless person i don't know the whole story and i don't want to speak was it true yes i think that was a while like six months ago or something yeah really i mean talking about crime yes this is what i say though like everyone talks about there's that saying that like progressives live in the future conservatives live in the past i don't think
Starting point is 01:07:49 that's true i think progressives catch on to things quite late actually they'll come to terms with like problems that exist and see it around them actually quite late so she's talking about crime being a problem you know in 2024 and most of us were seeing that 2020, 2021 and like losing our minds. And also like, it also speaks to the fact that there is a significant section or section of the left that doesn't believe in putting people in jail at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Apparently the Sam Seder crowd was calling her the next Dave Rubin a year ago. Yeah, well. Yeah, she was starting around a year ago talking. Well, but they also called her like a womb haver or something. I think that was the first thing. That was the first thing she started talking about, and then the crime was the big one that she was like, wait a second.
Starting point is 01:08:37 And then she was like, wait, I read about Kyle Rittenhouse, and y'all were wrong. Yeah, that happened as well. I mean, look at all these things that she's, you know, as far as we're concerned concerned these are things that were obvious and and we've known and talked about for five years or whatever it's a cult yeah it really is so when you're in a cult and you're surrounded by people who are reinforcing the lies it's hard to break out of it the mass media the nbc abc stuff is like reinforcing that cult it's it's a big media cult the cia was doing it with uh
Starting point is 01:09:05 what was that program they were running in like the 60s and the 50s just media manipulation program really popular well-known cia program of like just i don't think it was popular coin quintel pro or something like that maybe cointel pro i would apparently the program shut down now but i doesn't mean that they stopped you know this is just a big cult it is a big cultural control mechanism. What's the over under on Anika Sparrow announcing in October she's voting for Trump? I don't think she would ever admit it but I think that she would do it
Starting point is 01:09:34 in the booth. She'd get in that booth for sure Mockingbird is the name of the CIA program. That's when they infiltrated media. I'm going to be honest I would bet yeah she's going to be like i'm not gonna vote for trump she's gonna walk in the booth and hit trump yeah and it goes to show just like any cult like you said it things just have to get so extreme for a few stragglers to start to be like wait
Starting point is 01:09:55 you know you hear about people who leave actual cults and it it gets to the point where things are just so extreme so you know people not going to jail for having corpses in their house. And it's so crazy for me, because for me, that was the breaking point. Yeah. It's like, there was a lot leading up to that sis, but whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:11 I think in the age that we're in now, if you leave a call and you have a microphone and you tell the world about the call and expose it, you can completely dissolve the call. One person, like we're not really in the age of this controlling mechanism crap that we used to be and god willing we'll never enter into again if we can maintain freedom um so it's easy kind of once you're out of it to kind of speak the truth especially if you're the righteous one
Starting point is 01:10:35 i think then the cult will fall away if it's the righteous cult then you probably aren't gonna be able to stop it i wonder how much she makes the young turks because i don't she's been seven hundred thousand dollars a year she probably makes something like that half a mil more yeah yeah i don't think i mean she's been there for a long time i know uh jank is probably making millions do they co-own the company she has stock i don't think so but i but i i was told by one of the guys the young turks their subscriber numbers but this is like eight years ago so it could certainly be higher or lower i don't know uh high but not super high but i know that they they make millions of dollars they they probably make a lot more than that and they have investment but i wonder how much she makes and not like and is it worth it now look so so the issue is like i have
Starting point is 01:11:16 to imagine that anna after all this time of being on the young turks has a pretty happy nest egg and is not concerned at all about the negative repercussions of calling out the bs because she could easily go independent you know if she left or was fired first rang she could go independent for sure well i knew they'd been doing the young turks 20 years a long time i was a kid watching the young turks yeah yeah like 20 years she's like i got enough money where i'm sick and tired of this socialist line because you guys are gonna take my money that's the long and short of it. I don't think it's that.
Starting point is 01:11:47 I think it's more so that, you know, when you're younger and you're like, I don't know what I'm doing with my career. I don't know how far I can go. And they say, play ball. You might get worried. You might be like, if I lose my job, what do I do? She's at the point in her career where she's like, I got money. Ain't nobody telling me what I can or can't say. And she's just older.
Starting point is 01:12:03 You know, she was really young when she started. And also, I think you can't underestimate how powerful just the fact that she's built her entire social circle probably up around people that are hardcore lefties. And, you know, you see it on the right, too. People build their social circle around it. That's why, you know, when you come out as a different, you know, ideology or start thinking differently, you shed friends, you shed people. I think the fact that she's a co-host actually has somewhat insulated her
Starting point is 01:12:27 from the cultism of the cult. So for a lot of these people who host their own channels, like Hassan's mental breakdown, you saw that? Yeah. No. Hassan's viewership is down like 60 or more percent. His subscriber base is dropping. He apparently had a meltdown because he only got 13,000 viewers on a stream
Starting point is 01:12:46 where he normally gets 40 or more. Oh man, complaining about your viewers is the worst. Well, his career is done. What does it help? Nobody wants to be complained about. So he has a breakdown. The issue is, for Hasan as the principal of his channel,
Starting point is 01:13:02 he has to maintain the lowest common denominator of all his viewers. And if he can't at any point, they leave. Anna's a co-host. She can say whatever she wants. True. Whether subscribers come and go, if she's on salary, I don't care. Now, Cenk is the guy who's like, no, no, no, no, don't leave the left because he's thinking how many subscribers are we going to gain or lose from this line of thinking that she's taking.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Because it's his thing, yeah. This is why also I always say it's equally important to, you know, gain fans or viewers or listeners as to alienating viewers and fans and listeners. Like, you should be alienating people. You shouldn't, you know, it's easier said than done because you want to make the money,
Starting point is 01:13:36 but like, you shouldn't always have to appeal to those lowest common denominator people. It takes you in a path that's just dark. You eventually burn out. Yeah, you start lying. So look at Hasan.
Starting point is 01:13:44 This is what happens. He ends up supporting, he's being criticized by a lot of people for supporting terror and authoritarianism and calling babies colonizers but it's because he kept trying to say what he thought his jet wanted to hear so he went crazier and crazier yeah and now everyone's like yo i'm out because the extreme ones are the most vocal. Yep. So he's responding to the most vocal as opposed to the normal average person that's watching us on that was, you know, honestly probably watched him because it was like, man, I think we should have free health care. That's literally the doorway, you know? You know, we have people who come on this show and they're like, oh, I read the comments. And I'm like, why? That's like 0.01% of viewers. Yeah so you you like at all and they're like yeah but
Starting point is 01:14:29 they're good they're all the rig i'm like i i understand that but while it's great that people are commenting and we recommend you comment and chat more the majority of people who watch this are watching on their tvs this is something i think is really important for a lot of people to understand they're they're turning their tv on and they're opening YouTube TV or the YouTube app and playing the live stream on their TVs while they're hanging out. So they don't have the keyboards in front of them. They're just watching the show. And most people don't comment in general. I mean, I remember before I was even a creator, I wouldn't just comment on stuff.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Yeah. Why would I just comment on stuff? You know, unless I felt, I guess, really strongly. It's the 1% rule. What do they call it? That 1% of the people are responsible for 99 of the content so then you're getting led astray by the one percent so you're losing a lot more people than you think by going in that direction this is why when i tweet i think it's funny that women in new york city are getting
Starting point is 01:15:16 punched and everyone loses their collective mind i laugh and people are like they're super mad about it it's so funny and i'm just like you know i'll say it again people have said to me over and over again oh if you insult or criticize this person never come on your show and i'm like and i guess that's the limit of timcast i'm not going to get cuomo on the show because i called his brother a murderer or something yeah who cares i mean if that's what i was going for i sure i could i could be more be more like MSNBC or CNN and try to attract you know Cuomo to come I don't care
Starting point is 01:15:49 a lot of people also treat politics like you know a group thing or trying to be part of a group rather than just saying what you mean and how you feel also people that are saying those kind of things are used to the people that they're talking to responding to
Starting point is 01:16:07 the offer of proximity so like we talked about like you don't get money for a lot of things that that that people in the press do they don't get direct payments but if you get uh barack obama's chief of staff's phone number, now that's valuable. That's worth way more than money. If he'll take your call, if Barack Obama's chief of staff will take your phone call or respond to your text, that is worth a whole lot more than 10, 20, 50 grand in your pocket. Honestly, especially when you're at that level where you could possibly get that 10 20 50 000 doesn't matter to you like it's that's whatever money that social capital yeah exactly it's all about who like the vast majority of your life is about who you know and who you
Starting point is 01:16:55 interact with and all money is is a social lubricant it is a way to convince people to act for you it's hey look i need you to fix my drain. Would you come do it? No. If I give you 500 bucks, will you come do it? You bet I'll be there. That's all it is. It's a way to persuade.
Starting point is 01:17:13 So, you know, and if you take, if you have power, then you don't need the money to get people to do things and so that access to barack obama or maybe to donald trump or or whoever you know to to joe biden to hillary clinton those kind of the the access to people those people or the people around them is way more valuable than money i found with power and the definition of what that means when you are speaking the truth and you believe what you're saying and you're real people will listen to you and then they'll join you. And then you've created a movement that is irrelevant of the cost. It's like, it's the most powerful force on earth. And I think that's probably the most terrifying force
Starting point is 01:17:54 to authoritarian power structures is that an uprising of people that aren't in it for them, they're in it for the right reasons. The money stuff's kind of side, but of course money is nice to be able to buy meals and fly. It's real longevity too. Like actual longevity, if you want to do politics or commentary for a living is actually not being led astray by the few comments. Just being in your own little bubble, not reading comments and just saying what you truly mean and how you feel. Because when you're being influenced by, I want to be
Starting point is 01:18:21 friends with this person. I want access to these parties, I want to be a social climber, essentially, which is why a lot of people do it. That's when you start lying and they burn out one by one. I mean, Hassan, didn't Hassan say he wanted to like off himself because of all this? Yeah, he was being dramatic,
Starting point is 01:18:36 but apparently that was one of the posts. Yeah, that suicide thoughts usually start. That was one of the posts? Yeah. If I understand, I don't have any kind of confirmation, so I don't want to say definitely. A lot of that stuff starts as a joke.
Starting point is 01:18:45 So he's probably going through a really low point right now. Take it seriously. The thing about comments I learned over the years is I read them. I often read all of them. I don't take any of them personally, good or bad. I try not to. And I just kind of look at it as like, they're using me as a concept and they're expressing what they feel.
Starting point is 01:19:00 And I'm just an idea that, and so if I don't take it personally, I also stopped responding. That's a 20, by the way. I stopped responding to the negative comments i used to respond because they'd be the most stark they'd be all nine nine good comments and one bad one being like you smell and i'd be like no i don't and then i get more negative comments because they're like this is the kind of comment ian responds to is negative so this is what i'll give more of so i stopped i had a cold turkey myself stop talking to those people. And then just the really nice comment, I would respond to it, even if it felt like I was going out of my way.
Starting point is 01:19:27 And then I started getting more nice comments. Yeah. So I was conditioning my audience essentially. You know what I think? I think Anna should go independent. Yeah, me too. She'd make more money. And I'm curious to see what kind of audience she builds
Starting point is 01:19:39 with her current line of thinking, being free from this and being able to say whatever she wants. She could start a show with Sean, actual justice warrior, they're best friends now. line of thinking being free from this and being able to say whatever she wants she could she could start a show with uh sean actual justice warrior they're best friends now are they are they actually friends no he's he said that if she would unblock him he would call they would be best friends forever so i actually assumed i was like there was it was acrimonious but uh i think they're i think they're cool now i don't know if they actually have spoken but i know that she did
Starting point is 01:20:02 unblock sean and so sean says that she is his best friend i've always had a soft spot for anna between her and jank she was always the one that even when she was being a little crazy she was far less crazy so here here's the question say she was to be she was to come on like the culture war or or irl what would we disagree on has she been on here before no maybe economics but here here's the thing we just like the issue is i do not believe we would disagree on facts because we would pull up the facts and she would say, oh, like there's been so many instances where she's done the research and realized the people around her were wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:37 The difference between, you know, the media loves saying this is far right or conservative or whatever. I'm like, if it's conservative to fact check, wow, what a world that we're living in. Conserving the truth, maybe. That's about it. Fitness is conservative. I'll give you an example. Right now, the Krasensteins are doubling down, arguing that Donald Trump committed fraud
Starting point is 01:20:54 because puffery. Because his company puffed up the value and the property sizes and submitted that to a bank to try and get a loan. What they're omitting is that they include in those documents that these are subjective and may be wrong. That's part of the documents that are provided. And as part of the negotiations, the bank does their own due diligence. The bank testified, one of the bankers involved from Deutsche Bank said, we actually evaluated his documents and lowered his estimated net worth way down, which is totally normal. We're happy with the outcome of this. Everyone was happy. Nobody was tricked. They
Starting point is 01:21:29 actually, as part of the process, review it. And so they omit that information. People come on this show who we disagree on tons of policy, but we look at the AP story on the Deutsche Bank testimony and we all agree. Okay. AP has reported Deutsche Bank banker said we reviewed the documents. We did our due diligence. Trump said that there, that some of these, some of these things may be wrong. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:53 We accept that. We lowered his evaluation, offer him a loan based on those numbers. We offered him the product. They don't, they lie and hope that you don't find the truth. Yeah. Hassan's dumb, dumb right but those two are
Starting point is 01:22:07 intentionally liars like the whole the donald trump stuff is not this is not or at least the the case in new york this is not too complex for an average person to understand yes leticia james campaign on going after trump yep kevin o'leary a real estate developer, said, look at the case. There's nothing here. There's no crime committed. Deutsche Bank testified. We did our due diligence. He did not deceive us in any way.
Starting point is 01:22:31 We lowered the valuation offered him alone based on our assessment. But he lied in the first place. This is not too complex for the average person. The average person, if they look into it and they're not using motivated reasoning, it's clear, which is, again,vin o'leary is is speaking on this on every show that he can be on because this strikes at the very fundamental ability for people to do business in new york city it makes it makes people afraid to do business this is is very clear unless you are intentionally dishonest and i'll tackle two things in the trump fraud case, first, consider this.
Starting point is 01:23:06 It's the Trump organization, not Trump personally. The question is, they're saying, oh, Trump signed off on it. Dude, if you have a 300-page document, I don't know how big these documents are assessing values. Do you think Trump read through the whole thing? Or do you think he had a manager? He probably had four dudes do it or something. Exactly. And then he goes, this looks good.
Starting point is 01:23:20 And that's why Trump testified. They say these are subjective and the values could be wrong. So then Deutsche Bank says, don't worry about it. We're going to go through it all anyway. Then people say he altered the square footage of the Trump penthouse from 10,000, 11,000 to 30,000. Okay. First, Trump personally may have lied on that document and signed off on it to trick a bank. I accept that. Second, he also may have provided separate square footages based on what is residential, commercial, what is legally usable versus what is the actual size.
Starting point is 01:24:00 I don't know the context because there was no evidentiary. There was no trial. The judge didn't allow people to come in and testify what this means so i can tell you this i don't trust a case where the bank says trump didn't deceive us and we are happy with the results and the judge says don't know don't care and i don't trust the results where they don't actually have witnesses come and testify on the evidence what i can tell you is someone owns property if someone asks me i'll ask you this ian what's the square footage of this property oh my god 18 000 feet 13 000 square feet 30 000 okay uh are you including the living and unliving space yeah every piece of housed what's the living square footage oh not the garage not the giant skate park see not now here's the point if i'm gonna write down total square footage of
Starting point is 01:24:42 property i'm gonna include the outdoor barn. We've got attic space. None of it is livable square footage. If someone's going to ask, what's the what's the residential square footage of the building? I'm going to give a different number and say the amount you can actually use to live in because certain parts are unfinished. There's there's a there's a reasonable potential for a difference in square footage allotments. So when I first heard that, I said, I don't actually know. I'd have to look at blueprints and figure out what they meant by that. But I accept Trump may have fluffed up the number by three times to make it seem like it's bigger. Totally fair. Unfortunately,
Starting point is 01:25:12 they didn't have a trial. So it's meaningless. It's a meaningless argument to me. It's like, okay, well, unless Trump, unless you have an adversarial assessment of what, why that was and Trump on the stand talking about it trump's response when he was deposed was we we we you know it's a big document a lot of people worked on it we told him that uh uh it's subjective and and maybe wildly inaccurate i would love to get kevin o'leary obviously on the show if we haven't reached out to him yet i could listen to him go for two hours and just let the world know explain all this over and over again just go off the crazy thing about this is they're arguing that this is a crime i'll give you an example ian uh this debt
Starting point is 01:25:51 badge thing yeah this was given to me by uh i want it by thomas massey personally i like and so it it could be worth 100 bucks but because it was given to me by massey personally i'm gonna say it's a thousand bucks but i gotta be honest i could be wildly wrong on its value why don't you figure out what the value is and then tell me what you'll give me for it i don't know it sounds like you're committing fraud tim that's that's their argument well it's not fraud at all no you said i don't know how much this is what was it because he signed a document and handed it over to a bank not knowing because they're arguing he altered the square the the principal argument is he altered the square footage of the trump penthouse and i will say it again yes that's a potentiality that that the trump organization he altered the square footage of the Trump penthouse. And I will say it again. Yes, that's a potentiality that the Trump organization lied about the square footage
Starting point is 01:26:28 to make it seem like it's worth more money. So the bank would give them more favorable terms. Totally fine. Summary judgment, which means there was no evidentiary hearing. It means nobody came in and testified what this was, whether it was true. Nobody tested. They did not have a court trial. The judge just said, bang, we're done.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Trump committed fraud. So the most important thing however is this let's say i have this and i say uh this is gold okay uh i could be wrong yeah you tell me what it's worth uh that if it was gold how much it would be worth or how much it's actually worth how much you're going to give it look i'll give you like i say that's gold i could be wrong let me know what you want to give me for it so is that fraud if it's actually worth. How much you're going to give it. Look, I'll give you like, I say that's gold. I could be wrong. Let me know what you want to give me for it. So is that fraud?
Starting point is 01:27:10 If it's obviously not gold and you tell them it's gold. And this is what Deutsche Bank, the banker basically said is we reviewed all the documents and reduced his estimated valuation way down, like by less than half. And then we offer up a loan based on that. And there are other people in real estate that have done that, where they said my thing's worth is three times the size of what i'm doing at the banks like actually no well so we're not gonna do this is why i don't first of all i don't trust these people and i think they're that's why i think right away i've prefaced this every time with it's possible he just lied totally accept that but i seriously think there's a strong probability that it's something like the building we're in right now, total square footage is 12,000 square feet. If you were going to ask me how much, how much is the,
Starting point is 01:27:49 is the residential square feet? How much is the living square footage? I couldn't say that. I would say 10, but if I'm filing for different things, so let's say I'm going to, I'm going to a bank to get like a mortgage. I would say there's 12,000 square feet available for living space. What I mean is the unfinished portions could be converted. If someone was trying to buy the property, I would give them the square footage of living space, which is like 8,000. There's, there's a reason, reasonable explanation for why there may be, maybe a different number. And I don't know, maybe the Trump penthouse includes like an unfinished under floor or something. Who knows what I can tell you is these people are not trustworthy.
Starting point is 01:28:23 So when they come out and they do this first thing is i know that they're lying about the fraud because trump literally said these are these assessments are subjective and may vary wildly and told them to do their own due diligence the bank said we did and we're fine and we're going to lower the valuation and give you a different loan then they made money and we're happy there's no crime there's none they argued that because in the process of negotiating trump lied that's fraud and it's just like but he also told them he could be wrong and they're like yeah well it's still lying because it's just another we got him we got him we got him we got him and they never do like lying and fraud aren't necessarily the same thing you can lie to someone without committing fraud well no the the i mean yes in
Starting point is 01:29:05 a circumstance where you say oh that's a million dollar uh button yeah you tell me what you think it's worth and i'll take what you want to buy it for and then if you said it's a million and i gave you a million for it would that have been fraud i don't even think that's fraud that's why i called out john stewart the the argument made by the left is that securing a loan and selling a property are different things the bank is buying debt from Donald Trump. The buyer was buying property from John Stewart. In both instances, an exchange of money was given for something of value. The debt was valuable.
Starting point is 01:29:32 They would make money off it due to interest rates. And so they argued if Trump didn't inflate the value, well, John Stewart wasn't paying taxes on a $17 million property. That's a whole other argument though, by the way. I mean, the issue there is that john stewart is a track is a tax fraudster along with all the other real estate uh like i think what we're learning here is that new york real estate is a tax fraud scheme prominent and that doesn't surprise me and the reason why kevin o'leary is freaking out is
Starting point is 01:29:59 because he knows the market value of his buildings are different from what the real market value is the city is assessing is the city is assessing and the city's cutting backroom deals with everybody i think you're right and another thing that that is being overlooked here is there's a lot of places where valuation and and what the value is is not dictated by the state or anything and it's totally arbitrated by a third party. I mean, I have a guitar, right, that is a remake of a 60. It was a remake made in the 80s of a guitar made in the 60s, but it was made in this specific factory, and there were only so many. And because of that, it's worth X amount of dollars, right?
Starting point is 01:30:40 It's not nicer, quote unquote, than a brand new American made Fender Stratocaster, but because of where it was made, when it was made, how it was made, the people that literally worked at the factory when it was made is part of why. And you can't, like the going rate, the market value for that is dictated entirely by what people are willing to pay for.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Let's say this. Let's say you take your guitar and you go to a bank and say say i need a loan so that i can buy a new car sure and they say what's your collateral it's like well i got this guitar it's vintage i think it's a 1967 you're gonna have to check me on that one because it could be wrong and they go okay they checked it's actually a 68 so it's worth half what you thought but we'll give you we'll give you a loan based on this number you say deal and then new New York goes fraud. Yep. Exactly. That's 100% what happens. And again, we've talked about this before. There are agencies that
Starting point is 01:31:30 have to be licensed with the federal government to do the appraisals. The reason they're licensed is so that way they have the authorization and it protects them in court and the government says, oh, you know how to do it so we trust you to do it right and you've passed all our tests and you're quote unquote licensed and for the government says, oh, you know how to do it. So we trust you to do it right. And you've passed all our tests and you're quote unquote licensed.
Starting point is 01:31:47 And for the government to step in and say, we know you were licensed. We know that we have given you this authority. But because we don't like Donald Trump's face, we're going to go ahead and stick our nose in. And that's exactly what has happened in this case. I want Donald Trump, when he's in office, to destroy the New York real estate market. $20 million. I mean, look, I don't care about Trump anymore. I don't care about Kevin O'Leary. I don't care about Jon Stewart.
Starting point is 01:32:12 When I found out that the majority of properties in New York, market value, everyone can plainly see, and the government walks in and goes, what is this, $20 million penthouse? I'll write you down for a million bucks. How does that sound? Then you'll only pay taxes on $600. go thanks buddy so you got people who own 20 million dollar penthouses gross and they're paying taxes on only 600k pay your fair share already
Starting point is 01:32:35 real estate in new york what's going on huh all these fat cat liberals in these big buildings they own are paying dirt taxes i think think even Trump knew this, of course. And Trump was like, this is what everybody does. Jon Stewart knew this. It's what everybody does. Jon Stewart said he didn't do anything wrong. You didn't do anything wrong, Jon Stewart. You bought a property for $5.8 million.
Starting point is 01:32:55 The government then came and said, I think it's worth 1.8. You went, sounds good to me, even though you knew you bought it for more. Did you write down a loss on your property of $4 million when the city undervalued it? You then sold it for 17.5, but you only paid taxes on an evaluation of 1.8. Pay your fair share, you tax fraudster or tax evader. All of these people in New York do this. The reason why Kevin O'Leary is freaking out,
Starting point is 01:33:21 in my opinion, is because he knows he's got tons of real estate valued at 20, 30 million dollars or however much real estate he's got and he's paying tax on them as though they're worth only a million bucks they're all doing it it is one big scam in new york city the thing is like there is nothing that donald trump has done be it in his his pride in his business life in his private life or as president that every single other president has done bill clinton was was stupid girls outside of his marriage like there's no question about that like there has been all kinds of violations of the whole constitution during barack obama and george bush's tenure as ten years as president like every single thing
Starting point is 01:34:06 that they're attacking donald trump for presidents have done previously and other people have done in the private sector but it is specifically because he is donald trump and he was not supposed to win the the presidency he was disfavored and he had the audacity to beat the you know the uh the what what people said thought was the incumbent hillary clinton it was her time even though she wasn't the president it was her 60 65 million dollar property in new york listed on zillow tax assessment 1.5 million what the hell what come on dude i think a lot of this too is because of all of like these foreign owners of all these buildings that just own property in in new york and they don't do anything in the building i have friends that live in new york like i'm only like five people in the building and it's like 200 rooms at least
Starting point is 01:34:51 it's crazy so i'm all for this so what they only they said the property was worth 1.6 million for the sake of taxing it or he had to pay 1.6 million no no no this that assessment means the value of the property based on the government assessment i think you're right man this is part and parcel to the knee is this new york city new york and the argument i suppose is but this is how we do it yeah yeah okay so i looked at comparable properties in other big cities they don't do it in california they don't do it this way california if the property sells for 100 million california's that's 100 million dollar property new york is cutting deals cutting deals for the real estate market
Starting point is 01:35:25 for whatever reason. And Jon Stewart played the game. Jon Stewart had a $6 million penthouse he bought and he paid taxes as if it were worth only $748,000. He knew he was not paying his taxes. I declare amnesty. Let them all go. Let let's reset i don't want
Starting point is 01:35:46 to one by one knock down every realtor in new york city just pick apart our own process obviously it's corrupt i'd still like to ride it to the top you're gonna say something i just i think that it's a bad idea to just say we should reset i think what is probably the better idea is to prosecute a couple people, the largest offenders, and then reassess the whole city. You can have the assessors go through and reassess all of the properties revenue for the city to hire more police officers yeah and do something about the crime yeah that's why i said that that tax on all those people that own these businesses great let them contribute to the united states let them contribute to our taxes and that i have to pay for that now now i just yell at a stick for a living right and i'm a dummy but i know that new york city has new york city taxes
Starting point is 01:36:46 and because new york city does not print the money they're actually taking in the dollars and paying for things with those dollars like the way the u.s federal government way taxes apply to a nation are different than the way the taxes apply to a a state that doesn't print the money so they actually have to spend that money. They have to, they have to, they can't just print the money to do stuff. They actually have to, if they can't get the federal government to just give it to them, which they usually do, but they have to, they can take that tax money and they can do things with it, which is the way that it used to be nationwide.
Starting point is 01:37:17 But these are problems that New York state and Nework city are fully empowered to solve the problem is that they don't have the desire because the people that are in positions of power in the state and local government are stupid i mean it's it's it's clear you it's clear that there it is not a a secret how to stop crime now it's not exactly pretty because it's there's a lot of crime out there you have to giuliani style exactly was it like cops beating people on the street no no no it wasn't it wasn't like there was not a rodney king it's in it every day but they were stopping and frisking people so they were they were like if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time and looked like the wrong person they were like yo i'm gonna you know i want to stop and frisk you blah blah blah and and that's how they started to push back on gun crime and violent
Starting point is 01:38:12 and then like disproportionately young black kids were getting stopped and they're like this is systemic racism and that's where it all began is this that's not where it all began but that was one of the things that would be considered systemic racism but again like the police officers that we had uh we had two police officers here today and they were saying look there is a difference between a racial racial crime uh or a crime that is because it looks like there is a person that is suspicious and a police officer can make that judgment but society has decided that we no longer trust police officers to make that judgment we're just going to say if they make make that judgment it automatically is because they're
Starting point is 01:38:50 racist which is part of the whole idea that's in like white fragility and that's the whole idea on the on crt with with race and stuff is that it's not about whether racism did happen racism is pervasive in our system so So how did racism manifest? And if there's always racism, then there's always going to be an argument against why this person in particular is being targeted if there's any kind of racial component at all.
Starting point is 01:39:18 And the problem is they'll see it in any situation, right? It's like there's video after video of, you know, what was the one recently where there was someone attacking a cop with a shovel or something running out of their house and he got shot and you know yes yes there was there was an autistic guy he's like 15 but he was huge too which sucks but you can't commit a cop with a shovel and if that cop you know shoots you out it's kind of like how is that about your race yeah we were talking today to the to the police officers and one of
Starting point is 01:39:42 the things that people don't think about when it comes to police officers having guns, a police officer doesn't have the option of losing consciousness. Because that means that they are likely to die, and there's a crazy person on the loose with their gun. You can't just enter combat. Yeah. You know, it's over with or it's not. Yeah, so. Let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel,
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Starting point is 01:40:13 Alpha Turkey says, Howie, Clint. You missed the D. Oh, no. Howie. Howie. Clint says, Howdy, people.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Phil, go to the gym. Cheers, Clint. Clint says, Phil, go again. Yes, Clint, I agree. Alpha Turkey says, Phil, them tr the gym. Cheers, Clint. Clint says, Phil, go again. Yes, Clint, I agree. Alpha Turkey says, Phil, them triceps need work. Boy, I don't even start. Did you ask for inspo or something?
Starting point is 01:40:32 I don't know what happened, but mouthy people. Oh, triceps feel good. Did you ask them to tell you this? No, they're just getting loud. Just getting loud. All right, Martin Vorbrot says phil i sent multiple guns for service and each time they sent them back to me signature required this includes nfa item i uh i am going the safe route and getting 4473s every time what is that
Starting point is 01:40:59 that's the uh the nix check so that way you can be sure that you don't have a felony and if you take possession of a gun you're supposed gun, you're supposed to make sure that they didn't have a felony before you take it. Well, the context is we were talking about it this morning. And so if you send a gun out to be guns to have gunsmith work, whether whatever it is, when they send it back to you, you're supposed to take a forty four seventy three before you take it back because you could have committed a felony making you ineligible to possess a gun. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says Tim Dave, the Lego guy posted video of him going for a walk because of you and Phil's inspiration
Starting point is 01:41:27 to get healthier by November. You'll love to see it. Go team. Yeah. Dave the Lego guy. Oh, it's on now. You got to go all the way. We got to see more clips.
Starting point is 01:41:36 We got to see progress. We got to do this. Please, Dave. I retweeted him. Me too. Yeah, he's great. Also, baby. Shout out to Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Starting point is 01:41:44 for your never-ending observational skills. Thanks for keeping it loud, brother. Yeah. All right. Let's see. The Bahamian Rain Man says, I'd rather ish on my hands and clap. It took me 15 minutes to get myself under control
Starting point is 01:42:05 if you dropped that little gem in your last podcast I can't say that to myself without giggling hysterically I forgot I was like is that a quote of yours? someone's tiktok I was like I'd rather shit on my hands and clap than watch this because it takes a while to get that stink out
Starting point is 01:42:22 you know if you smear it in it takes a while to get that stink out, you know. Right. Yes. If you smear it in, it takes even longer. Ian knows. Yeah. I love you, Ian. I love you too, Phil. All right. Frump says, I listened to old episodes of IRL as background noise for A Plus Sleep.
Starting point is 01:42:38 I noticed Tim accurately predicted the too incompetent to face charges thing in episode 50 around 20 minutes in. Got any other interesting predictions? Oh, i wonder about the specifics behind that the too incompetent for uh for biden to uh face charges yeah i don't know you know predict a lot of things i give my opinions on what i think things might be and they're wrong often and they're right often uh their fbi is starting to go after people for social media posts yeah i half predicted that i said the next thing we'll start seeing is the fed like feds or capital police going to people's houses who are posting things about january 6 they are now doing this yep how many lists do you think between all of us we're all on
Starting point is 01:43:21 17 the joke i had a long time ago was i was at this party with a bunch of hackers and political personalities and i was like you guys realize that like in the nsa right now there's some like intern and an alarm goes off and he goes boss it's like what he goes look all the red dots are coming together yeah it's forming one giant red dot the dots are in the same place like they look at mind maps of like pulsing your face with like a pulsing circle around it that gets bigger. The closer you get to other maps of other pulsing faces of people. And then they can like spin it around and zoom out and see how you're connected to other realms of pulsing faces. That's called palette here.
Starting point is 01:43:57 So here's how it works. I invested in that company. My NSA agent and Ian's, they work together all the time because every night they sit down. They're like, oh, you're tracking Ian's stuff. Like, yeah, you're tracking Tim. Yeah. And then when you show up, the Blair NSA agent walks in, they're like, oh, Blair's on tonight. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:10 So I'll be hanging out with you guys tonight. Playing cards. Playing cards. Yeah. I talk to mine sometimes. Nice. I got to get inside. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:44:19 All right. Where are we at? Rath Paul says polls indicate Republican former governor Larry Hogan is leading by double digits for the Maryland Senate race. What do you think of him? Is he good or just another rhino? Hadn't considered that MD could flip rhino. I don't know a lot about Maryland, to be completely honest.
Starting point is 01:44:34 I've always been much more concerned with West Virginia because my legal residence is West Virginia. We do the show out of Maryland and then I live in West Virginia because we're in the tri-state. It's 30 seconds apart. But the whole new move we're doing, the big studio shift in the next like four days,
Starting point is 01:44:49 I think, is 100% West Virginia. So we've had half of the operation already in West Virginia for some time and then the full operation will be West Virginia soon. Is this the last time
Starting point is 01:44:58 I'll be in the studio probably? Not necessarily. We're going to have another show here. I'm not going to say too much just yet because we're still working on the details but there's pop culture crisis will still be here there's gonna be another show that's gonna be here so it is unlikely for you to return in the immediate but there may be a time when you show back up for some reason yeah there's a lot of
Starting point is 01:45:17 potential at this place for expansion now like rapid potential all of a sudden you gotta figure out what we're doing yeah it's like what do you do with a building with a skate park outside and a ramp in the basement and two studios and i like movie studio i'd love podcasting because we have studios already it's already built like different podcast studios like yeah one of one of one of the ideas was renting out podcast production space and stuff like that to people who are doing because often it's mostly infomercial stuff like some will say hey we need to do a infomercial like style thing we need a podcast studio and then they pay a one-time fee or something because otherwise just sitting around uh it will be our backup studio because yeah if there's an emergency or whatever we can always
Starting point is 01:45:59 have one or the other but like taking this whole thing apart i was like no there's no way all the cameras all the wiring that's that's that's just it's not worth it just keep using it well because we need that we need the plan b in the event that there is a catastrophe seems a bit wrong too to just dismantle everything i don't know yeah we're not we're gonna basically leave it exactly as it is i think the instruments are coming with us but uh all the art and everything's probably gonna stay exactly the same and there we'll probably still find ourselves here, just maybe like once a month or every other month.
Starting point is 01:46:28 When it's convenient. Yeah. Yeah. It really depends. We can play music here. It's got a lot of space to get the whole band together and play music. I think Freedom Stand is, we have a 40 foot tall building to play music in now.
Starting point is 01:46:39 It's a lot bigger. Yeah. Yeah. Have you seen it yet? Not in the last four months. What? We shot something over there four months ago i haven't been back oh that's right that's right yeah so come on like playing music in that building playing up on the third floor with the acoustics yeah maddening i love
Starting point is 01:46:55 maddening all right cool do we have drum kit over there not yet but we will i'm gonna uh i i someone mentioned where's the super chat i want to read it i don't know i'll see if i get to it let's read some more super chats all right adrian curry says blair white is 50 more broad than i am it is known i don't think that's true but shout out to adrian broad jason hutchinson says kathy hokal afuera couldn't have happened to a better person there you go tn says trump is crushing biden donors. TN says Trump is crushing Biden on donors under $200. Biden is crushing Trump on large donors. Photos of Clinton, Obama, and Biden were $100,000 a piece.
Starting point is 01:47:33 I know. And I only I was thinking about getting two or three of them. Really wanted to be in that photo with Clinton and Biden. $100,000 to take a photo. Can I just photob for like 40 grand? That's a divide right there.
Starting point is 01:47:49 That's the divide right there, right? I don't think Trump would ever do that. The thing is, there's a lot of people that are, yeah, I don't think Trump would ever charge. I mean, he would do fundraisers, but I can't imagine him charging like normal people. But like the Democrats have that really made it starkly clear that the democrats are the party of the wealthy now there is no question that all the money is or all the the significant money is going to democrats it's they are the party of the elite and the wealthy now and you know the republicans are the party of the average person it seems like
Starting point is 01:48:22 they have control the federal reserve and they're just pumping clearly into their i don't know just leave me alone says tim you started a shitstorm on social media women against me in new york city i stayed out of it because with all due respect you don't know who these women voted for i don't care who they voted for i i i don't understand this because like i i have i have friends who are women who are in new york and there are people have been on the show who are in new york and there are people who have been on the show who have been in New York, and they're like, hey, you know, you shouldn't say that. And I'm just like, dude, I got to say this to all the conservatives. You don't get to call people retarded. You don't get to insult people's appearance or call them fat pigs and laugh whenever you want to make a joke about somebody.
Starting point is 01:49:05 And then get upset when people are joking about your circumstances. It's just like, roll with the punches. Have a nice day. And a pun was intended. Let's go. We'll grab some more super chats. That's a good point. Well, the funny thing is that the people are like,
Starting point is 01:49:20 Tim, how dare you say you find it funny? And I'm like, I have insulted a lot of people in my day. And on this show quite a bit. And y'all laughed. Y'all laughed along with me. Someone, there was a funny post where Babylon B said, Ron DeSantis kicked out of Republican Party for succeeding too much.
Starting point is 01:49:36 And I thought it was really good. I laughed. And I'm like, in Florida, the dude is getting a lot done and the Republicans suck. And then there was some guy, he follows me. He's like Turning point usa said that they're trying to break like he's had he criticized them for it and i'm like oh come on like i'm very critical of ron desantis but that was a funny joke ron desantis is very successful in florida yeah that's what we liked about him if he's like they are not prepared for my intelligence like if he's reporting and he's like, cause he was so good and just weirdly,
Starting point is 01:50:06 I don't know if it's autistic is the right word, but weirdly socially awkward during this presidential run, unfortunately, cause he was like really put together before that. He had good morals and aims and ethics. And I wonder if it's like, society's just not ready for that kind of style of leadership yet. We're too emotional.
Starting point is 01:50:21 Just in terms of policy, it's just like a one, you know, he's amazing in terms of policy, but yeah personality just i don't know dr doctor says jess margera drummer of cky is talking shit about you on twitter today he used the picture where they make you super fat on fox news it is a funny picture it's a good photo that one photo i think i know oh it's a photoshop as well who's that guy yes they made a fake picture of me morbidly obese but this is what they have to do i love seeing those pictures
Starting point is 01:50:49 because i see if you'd gone the fat path and not worked out i'm so glad you're healthy man it looks great it was realistically photoshopped but so uh i'll ask our bass players for some inside jokes about jess margera no i love cky dude Dude, I learned how to play 96 Quite Bitter Beings when I was like 15. Plastic Plan is one of my favorite songs. We were just jamming out to CKY like a week ago on the mini ramp. First thing I did was I hit him up and I said, brother, can we book you for a show? Dude, CKY is like
Starting point is 01:51:16 one of the like permanent skateboarding bands. Bam Margera, CKY, CKY2K, all of their songs playing in the background. They got them on Tony Hawk video games. Dude, CKY is great yeah was it bam's brother just margera bam margera's brother our bass player played for cky for like 10 years really yeah he was matt dice when he when he left all that remains we were just starting out and like hadn't really gotten off the ground yet and he got a chance to be in cky and he's like guys this is my favorite band and i'm gonna go play
Starting point is 01:51:44 for him and we were like we love you we get it And we were like, we love you and we get it. Because we were all like, you know, if I got the chance to play in my favorite band or whatever, especially at that age, we were like, go. We were like, we love you, go. We understand it sucked, you know, because we had some issues with bass players for a little while until we got Genie.
Starting point is 01:51:59 But yeah, he went and he played for a lot of years. And I don't think that Mr Margera is in any position to be talking smack about people there, homeboy. He can make fun of me all he wants. I don't care. Would you like to come and play a show, Jess Margera? Everyone here is a big fan of CKY and you can actually talk smack
Starting point is 01:52:18 about whoever you want while you're playing the show. We like your music. Shout out to Bam, though. Yeah, Bam's great. He seems better. It's good to see him actually skating, too. Wait mcl yeah oh when did he tear he was doing uh he was i think he was doing a kickflip blunt down the side of a ramp one of his signature moves and he fell and then his like his leg went like that yeah torres can you get injections like stem cells for that kind of thing if he if it's a serious tear he's gonna need surgery yeah he's gonna need surgery but he probably should get the stem cell stuff we gotta we gotta we gotta reach out to him we know a bunch of people like we have a bunch of mutual connections
Starting point is 01:52:51 and uh see if he can get the uh the cellular uh performance institute guys to set him straight couple months he'll be back in the game yes you know it was one of the coolest things ever when i saw the video of him skating again yeah because i like in the toy machine video you know like cky before jackets and all that all the skateboarders no bam yeah and uh one of the best parts in um which toy machine would it's it's been 20 something years uh i forgot which toy machine toy machine's a skateboard company and so uh seeing him skate again is like nostalgia but it's also i'm just so happy for him health-wise. There was a time where he was looking like it was going to be like, he was going to off himself.
Starting point is 01:53:30 Well, bro, I mean, his best friend died. Yeah, I know, I know. Brutal, merciless. Seeing him come back and like, dude, the fans were so excited. We just want to see him skate. You know, we want to see him be good. It's a testament to getting healthier too,
Starting point is 01:53:42 because I was really unhealthy in 2012. I see videos and I was like, ate so much sodium and crap. Puffy face never worked out. I looked sick. I looked older than I look now. That's like 14 years ago. Literally genetically.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Pictures of me in 2015 were pretty rough. Fixing that inflammation is key. I really. You can even think you're fat, but it's actually just inflammation. You know, I really just got to shout out the dude who bides again for the F in communism stands for food. That's a good one.
Starting point is 01:54:09 That's a good one right there. Did you come up with that? Because that's a great one. I mean, I've heard every communist book, like a lot of communist jokes. I've never heard that. Yeah. That's really good. That's great.
Starting point is 01:54:19 Chosky says Washington had an employee have their car stolen. It was on camera. People recognized who stole it. Days later, it was found with the guy's wallet and more stolen property. What was done? Nothing. Of course. Yes.
Starting point is 01:54:31 Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, you're on your own. It's bleak. Let's see. Paracelsus says sci-fi has to be plausible. Reality does not. All right. That's funny.
Starting point is 01:54:46 Igor V says the danger with people who have a chip implant is the government's having access to the eyes and ears of every implanted person, and not being able to hide from the stream from every implanted eyes and ears. Yup. Yes, they all become spies. I feel like they can already listen to you, though. You know, there's just too much stuff that
Starting point is 01:55:01 pops up on my phone just from me thinking about it. There are technologies like penetrating radar, I think, where they can listen to you from space through walls, things like that. The phenomenon that you're experiencing or you're talking, pointing out and talking about, I don't think that it's actually because they're listening and grabbing things that you say for keywords for advertisements. I think the algorithms are just so good that like you see something and you recognize it because you talked about it but you don't think about the 10 15 20 things that so what happened to me was me my brother went to walmart and they had a sale on these tvs that they put right in the middle of the aisle when they really want to sell something they put it in the middle of the walkway like you know you know like your walk like not when you're in one of
Starting point is 01:55:42 the actual aisles like an end cap and it's a not an end cap like the actual path paths in walmart they will put stuff right in the middle of it to walk around and that tvs i get home this is back back when i lived in bayonne in new jersey and i go on facebook and i get an ad showing that picture from walmart it was a picture of my walmart and those tvs stuff and i was like what well it knew where i was yeah there's that famous story where the guy got uh mail came to his house some of it was to his teenage daughter and it was maternity stuff and he got really pissed off and he called the company he says why are you sending maternity advertisements to my teenage daughter and they said sir these are algorithmically mailed out when when our system detects someone
Starting point is 01:56:25 is pregnant based on their buying patterns we send them these products and he goes what daughter was pregnant i'm thinking about this she was she was looking up things like feeling sick she was looking she she didn't know she was pregnant either as a crazy thing she was looking up things that pregnant women look up but she didn't know it was pregnancy but when you put you oh wow you connect the dots, this computer solves the Sudoku puzzle. Yeah. The read, write thing is scary because if they can write information into your brain directly, obviously, but the read only is also scary because the machine's going to
Starting point is 01:56:54 be writing information into your brain just with its feedback. So like, you know, if I say hello to you, I'm writing information into your brain that's being written. So like they'll, they'll, it'll be able to tell how I feel and then it'll show me colors and sounds in response to my feelings and it's basically writing the the that's what i'm saying the right portion right now is a screen through your eyes and ears and the read portion will be from your brain so it will it will know your thoughts and then you will look up and a tv will pop on it'll go hey ian and you'll be like like in that scene in minority report where he walks into the wall and then it's like hello mr guanjao or whatever yes
Starting point is 01:57:28 yeah because he had the fake eye but you're gonna walk in and it's gonna know you're there and it's gonna tell the machine the machine knows everything you're thinking and the ai will appear and be like i know your thoughts ian don't do it it'll be grok put it down the machine will be grok i'm just a figment of your imagination and i'm just an ai remember that and this is it will be Grok. I'm just a figment of your imagination. And I'm just an AI. Remember that. And this is going to be one like Grok. Hume. Grok will be a big barbarian in your reality. It will all be one thing.
Starting point is 01:57:53 They will all merge into one Pandora. Like we're building Pandora's box all for it to emerge. Whence. So it seems like, I hope not. Yeah. I think that the AI may actually be, what do they call them? Like, like figments or like like like angels and demons they might end up being like you're
Starting point is 01:58:12 familiar in the alternate reality in your augmented realms and they'll communicate with you and uh it was gina says tim tech check out tickle v giggle lawsuit in australia we'll have worldwide ramifications also anyone interested in sci-fi just released my first book on earth and sky by lean ash we uh i reached out we reached out to um the woman i think her name is sal let me make sure i get the name right before i screw it up but the problem is she's in australia she can't come. It is, what's her name? Am I getting her name wrong? Okay, definitely got her name wrong. Oh, no, I was right.
Starting point is 01:58:51 Yeah, Sal Grover. Sal Grover at S-A-L-L tweets is the founder of Giggle. And we wanted her to come out to talk about this because she made a social media space just for women. And trans women wanted to come on it. and she said it's for females only and then they sued i don't know exactly what's going on right now with this lawsuit but we asked her to come out and talk about what was going on and i guess it was too difficult to fly from australia so is your take on like trans women and like you'd think that there should be spaces that are yeah i don't know why it's so hard for everyone to just stay in their own lane and why that hurts people's feelings i feel like you don't not everything
Starting point is 01:59:28 is for everyone you know and it's just that simple you don't have to like you said earlier you don't have to divorce certain realities from your perceived reality you know so yeah i mean that's what my whole channel pretty much is based upon do you just use whatever bathroom when you go into the bathrooms do you just pick whatever or do you go into one particularly i mean i very much avoid public bath in general because they're disgusting but i mean so so smart it's so true i mean i can't use men's bathrooms that's always going to be a problem so and also like i mean your situation because you're a small it's different when you transition but the fact is now you have people that don't transition you know and it's it's conflated as the same thing now which is like
Starting point is 02:00:09 the biggest problem and it's causing problems yeah we we i don't think we you and i have ever we ever never even actually talked about stuff like this on the show i think you pointed out before you were like we never talked about the trans stuff and i was like oh whatever but uh we have talked about it um i was talking about with cassandra it's like if a trans man who looks like uh like buck angel goes into a women's room there's going to be a problem if a trans woman who looks like blair goes into a men's room it's not going to be the same kind of problem but people are going to be like oh there's a woman in here and then what you have now is you have different problems you might be in danger if
Starting point is 02:00:44 you do that though of course i mean it's it's just about causing the least amount of problems and there seems to be this new found not even with just trans like idea in the world with people that like it's just your world and any problems that happen around you because of your actions there's no responsibility so true so. And that's the destruction of everything too. Right now. Seamus has a new cartoon out on Freedom Tunes. And the issue that is actually at play is there are large men, like the photo of the guy shaving his beard. The Planet Fitness stuff.
Starting point is 02:01:16 Yeah. Exactly. I mean, that's scary. Yeah. There's like a guy shaving his beard saying that he's allowed to be in there. Or the Wii Spa guy who was not even trans and just exposing himself. And then they're like, but we can't do anything
Starting point is 02:01:26 because he might be trans. And it's like, well, that's just a guy who's getting naked in front of little girls. That's come on. Exactly. And I've always like been confused by how if you actually transition
Starting point is 02:01:36 and you actually are trying to become a woman or, you know, there are some of us that don't think you can actually become a woman, but you live. But live your life that way. Exactly. It's like,
Starting point is 02:01:44 you would think you would get an increased empathy for women like my empathy for women's only increased the more and more i'm perceived that way i've been the world you know and getting negative attention from men or you know just scary stuff happening a lot of them don't have that empathy it doesn't increase for them which is how i know it's like they're not really trans then well then we're gonna wind things up so if you haven't already smash that like button subscribe to the channel share the show with your friends head over to timcast.com click join us become a member to support the show because this show is made possible thanks in part to viewers like you and high res the rapper keeps asking me if i will do that rap song with him the answer is
Starting point is 02:02:16 yes and i was like oh yeah to it it's like oh man we got so much stuff going on but that would be fun to do a rap song it'd be sick but i mean we're working on songs right now you know phil has helped us write it work on a song with phil right now and so it's just you know it's got a great chorus too yeah great chorus yeah it's like good good good rock yeah so uh smash that like button high note on that song like coming hard cornell we can get that i mean that's what it's all about man cornell so good uh you can follow the show at timcast irl you can follow me show at TimCastIRL. You can follow me personally at TimCast. Blair, do you want to shout anything out?
Starting point is 02:02:49 Just my channel, I guess. You guys can search me up on YouTube. You'll find me. I am PhilThatRemains on Twix. I am PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram. The band is All That Remains. You can follow us on Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora, YouTube, Amazon Music, you know, the internet. And don't forget, the left lane is for crime. And at IanCrossland, follow me, you know, the internet. And don't forget the left lane is for crime.
Starting point is 02:03:08 And at Ian Crossland, follow me anywhere and everywhere on the internet. Question for you, Blair, do you play Helldivers? No. Well, I know Phil does. Tim, have you, Serge, you played it? I don't think you guys have played it. I'm playing Baldur's Gate. I noticed. What's your favorite weapon, support weapon? I haven't had any time to play because I've been so busy with all the
Starting point is 02:03:23 Remain stuff and with... What level are you now? i'm like level three or four like i played very very little in a couple months i want to play more than i have good you should it's fun yeah it's epic if you like third person shooters you fight bugs kind of like starship troopers and you fight automatons like terminator it's pretty awesome four player squad based combat friendly fires on so it's hilarious when you misfire you know yeah i think i think i have just about exhausted all of balder's gate dude you how many hours did you catch a number i don't know 200 wow i was thinking about playing it the other night and it's like i almost feel like um impotent compared to i'm like how can i even begin to talk to tim about it because you know the game so thoroughly in and out now yeah it is such a i mean such a good game it's like in the car i'm playing it and then there's usually like after i'm eating and i'm sitting
Starting point is 02:04:16 down and i have fox news on for like an hour i'll play it but that was typically what i was doing and so it's been since october and then there's a few days in the weekends I play for a few hours. But it's usually when I can't do anything else. Like if I couldn't skate or work out Thursday because it was a recovery day. And so I played a little bit. Usually it's like
Starting point is 02:04:34 there's nothing for me to be doing. I have to rest and relax. But I've exhausted that game. There's like basically nothing left in that game. Divinity 2, if you like that style, Divinity 2 is where it's at. It might be even better than
Starting point is 02:04:46 Baldur's Gate. Come fight for managed democracy in Helldivers. Oh, for democracy. Managed democracy. Alright. Search. Yeah, I've seen a lot about that game. I'm not really the gamer guy, but it looks cool from all the lore stuff I see. It looks cool. Yeah, guys, keep your heads up.
Starting point is 02:05:02 We're almost there. We'll be in November soon. It'll really matter. Cheers. We will see you all. We've got clips coming up. We're almost there. We'll be in November soon. That don't really matter. Yeah. Cheers. We will see you all. We got clips come up to the weekend and then we will be back on Monday. Thanks for hanging out. you

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