Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #998 Ben Shapiro & Candace Owens Agree To Debate Antisemitism After Schulz Roast w/John Nolte
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There was an earthquake today in epicenter was New Jersey.
And the crazy thing about it is Trump's golf resort was the epicenter, like basically next to the epicenter.
But come on, like considering the size of this earthquake is a 4.8.
But how far it reached Trump, it's like Trump's golf resort in Bedminster was the epicenter.
And so, of course, we now have to discuss whether we think it was a Chinese super weapon causing this Russian or perhaps the Democrats.
I'm kidding, by the way, but it's Friday and it's a slow news week.
So I decided perhaps there's something that not enough people are talking about and doesn't generate enough conversation online.
And that issue is, of course, Israel.
So instead, we're going to talk about that because Candace.
Oh, we got to slow down.
So Andrew Schultz says Ben Shapiro can't debate anybody but college liberals.
So Candace Owen says I would like to debate Ben Shapiro.
So Ben Shapiro says, okay, let's debate.
Now they've agreed and they're trying to figure out a time and place.
Ben Shapiro says Nashville Monday.
Candace Owen says I won't do it on the Daily Wire.
My name got floated for potential moderator.
I volunteered.
So I really want to talk about this issue.
I think it's interesting why Candace and Ben are debating.
And I don't know, maybe having a discussion on it may actually make me not a good moderator
for the debate considering we're going to have a conversation Friday before it potentially
even happened.
We'll talk about that.
We'll talk about, of course, the earthquake that hit New York, New Jersey.
And what omen uh comes with this uh
epicenter being at trump's golf resort and then i love it they got a bunch of conspiracy
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Our guest tonight is John Nolte.
Who are you?
What do you do?
I work for Breitbart News.
I've been there since 2008.
And I write three editorials a day
and call it a day. It's a great job.
I'm a very greatest job in the world
I have. Well, all right.
Actual Justice Warrior has returned. Yes.
I'm just like this morning. I am
a YouTuber. I've been doing it since
2016 and I make one
to two videos a day, except when I
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we got serge pressing the buttons yep i'm here y'all uh ready when you are all right let's just
uh you know we originally
going to talk about the earthquake but this is fun and the conversation before the cameras even
turned on got pretty good so i was like let's just talk about candace ben shapiro israel anti-semitism
and what this whole debate's about so here's how it starts you got this clip from andrew schultz
anomaly tweets andrew schultz realizes ben Shapiro is only good at debating college liberals and can't win debates against serious competition. I will play the clip for
you now and you can hear what he had to say. Candace, she's not afraid of nobody. She will
say whatever the fuck she wants to say. She's smart enough. She will debate any single person.
She'll go out there and do it, right? Ben Shapiro is debating college kids. Yeah. Let's just be
honest, right? It's like anytime he debates somebody who's like worthy, he either gets washed or bare minimum stalemate.
I've never seen him actually win a debate against somebody who's like educated in the matter.
So in response to this, Candace Owen says, I would like to debate Ben Shapiro on Israel and the current definition of anti-Semitism.
Can somebody make that happen?
To which Ben Shapiro responded, sure, Candace, I texted you on February 29th offering this
very thing. Let's do it on my show this
Monday at 5pm at our studios
in Nashville. 90 minutes
live streamed. I believe
Ben went on to say, I am now
signing off. Okay, okay.
There's a little bit more in the drama before we get
into it. Candace says, I'm sure you can appreciate
why I prefer to keep this off the Daily
Wire platform as well as the true reason why
we were never able to make any discussion happen.
Let's choose a neutral, trustworthy platform. I
vote Patrick, bet David. To which
Ben Shapiro responds,
Candace, I can see why you'd want to hide behind a
moderator, particularly one who said
we should rename our company the Daily Jewish
Wire just yesterday. No.
One-on-one, Monday at 5pm.
We can sit down and have a healthy debate like
adults and we'll live stream it on x and youtube take it or leave it as to the true reason you
didn't respond to my offer to sit with me sit with you and discuss these issues publicly or
privately back in february i have no idea what the hell you're talking about he then said i am now
signing off for shabbat i plan to be in nashville for this conversation on monday so this all starts
with of course andrew schultz saying Ben Shapiro can't debate.
I don't agree with Schultz on this one.
I think he's isolated.
There's there's copious amounts of Ben Shapiro, you know, dishing it out to college liberals
who ask him these questions.
But also Ben Shapiro has sat down for numerous discussions.
He does the Sunday special.
He has conversations and debates with tons of people all the time.
I don't, I'm not saying he's the greatest debater in the world,
but the idea that he's only ever successful against college liberals,
I disagree with, but I don't know what you guys,
if you guys want to jump in and we'll just.
I think he would have,
I think he would do great in the debate on Israel because he's right.
I think that would help him enormously is that his position on it is the right position. Well, what is that position?
That the war in Gaza is a just war, that the only moral outcome of the war is, and I'm going to use
this word deliberately, is the extermination of Hamas. And that those who are calling for ceasefires, those who are saying, blaming,
you know, like these aid workers, is Israel, did they make a mistake?
Are they responsible for that mistake?
Yes.
But are they morally responsible?
No.
Hamas is morally responsible because they started the war. So that gives, in my opinion, he's correct on the debate. And I don't see how someone can morally say that what Israel is doing is wrong, because what they're doing needs to be done or more people are going to die in the future.
How did the World Central Kitchen thing happen? How
do you accidentally target three separate vehicles in different areas and kill a bunch of aid workers?
That I don't know. But if you start a war, which is what Hamas did, innocent people are going to
die. I don't think for a second that Israel targeted innocent people. Number one, why would
they? The only thing it could do is hurt them,
which of course it has.
Well, they did target innocent people.
The question is-
I mean, deliberately.
Right.
Was it an accident or otherwise?
I think obviously it was an accident.
What's the upside to killing innocent people?
Deliberately, there's no upside.
The aid workers,
the upside is they don't get the food and water
to the people they're trying to exterminate.
But if they kill those people,
I mean, there's all kinds of
stuff going in there to help the people in Gaza, to help the civilians, we hope.
So knocking out 12 aid workers is not going to make a huge difference in what's going in there.
All it's going to do is what's happened to Israel, what we all know was going to happen to Israel,
which is Biden turned against them and public opinion turned against them. There's no upside
to killing those aid workers. One of the thoughts i had while you were explaining that is that because hamas started
the war israel has the right to kill civilians or they're say that it's not their fault they were
their hand was forced so i disagree because if a country were to like invade my borders and start
a war and then i go total war on them and start bombing their cities and killing them i don't
have the right to blame them for me killing all those civilians i made that choice but but you you have israel has a moral
obligation to exterminate hamas they have to do it and that's going to save lives it's like dropping
bombs on japan atomic bombs in japan that was a moral thing to do it ended the war and it saved
lives and if you let hamas go on especially after what happened October 7th, you're going to see a lot more civilians.
It's going to be like Iraq and Afghanistan, 20 years of hell.
Civilians, this immoral, moral war that you let go on for decades and decades.
So couldn't they go to – where's the leadership, the Hamas leadership currently at? Aren't they in like Qatar?
A bunch of them are in Qatar, yeah.
Yeah, so why doesn't the U.S. and Israel just actually go and put them in cuffs?
I don't think it's that easy. I mean, they hide among civilians. Plus, you've got to get –
No, they're not. I'm pretty sure these are public-facing people who – like one guy went on TV.
Plus, you have to take away their ability to wage war again. And that's what they're doing going into Gaza.
Because it's not, you know, it's not, we don't have hospitals.
We have hospitals built on top of weaponry.
That's the stuff you have to get rid of.
It's like the Nazis.
You have to not only get rid of Hitler, you have to get rid of Nazis.
You have to get rid of Nazism.
You have to take away their ability to ever wage war again.
That's the only moral outcome.
I thought that too,
that it is important to remove the Nazism from the,
from the Nazis.
So you have normal people again,
basically.
So killing the individuals isn't always the way to get rid of an ideology.
And my concern with trying to eradicate Hamas is the blowback.
They're killing a lot of innocent people that will then grow up to become even
worse terrorizers of the system than the current ones is my fear.
And then that will leave Israel and no Israel no more justification other than to say we need to eradicate everyone there because otherwise it will never stop.
And that's like the slippery slope I see in the future I want to avoid.
Well, I think he's underselling it because it's not only that they start this war, but they started the war and then refused to fight it.
They attacked and then hid among the civilian population and as far as the blowback if this organization that is the leadership already says we're committed
to wiping you off the face of the earth like the idea that like oh well just imagine what happens
if you make them angry they they that's already their mission now they're already at the end point
so yeah you do have a problem but the fact is right now they control the education system right now
they're breeding or right trying to raise these kids into the next generation of soldiers to fight the Israelis.
So, like, you have to get rid of that.
And, like, you know, the Nazi example, we did do policies of, like, denazification.
You had to take that stuff out of the education stuff. we would consider very like anti-American was done in europe where they banned um being in
nazi parties and denying the holocaust and all that because that's how extreme the the uh that
rooted ideology was in europe so it's a similar kind of thing like but again it's not that they
just started the war it's that they didn't fight it they were like okay we attacked now we're going
to hide and then wait for the media to say look look at how bad you are at finding us. And the other point I would make is that we've tried it your way.
Israel's tried it your way for decades, and they got October 7th.
So that way doesn't work because you cannot do business with savages.
And that's what Hamas is.
I'm not talking about Gazans.
I'm not talking about Arabs.
Hamas is savages, and they need to be exterminated because if you don't exterminate them, it's going to happen again. So you're saying
the two-party solution? Was that when you said the vision I'm looking for, is that like a two-party
solution? No, when you say... Like a two-state solution? Two-state solution, that's what I mean.
Not a two-state solution, but the idea that, oh, we got to back off, or do a ceasefire,
or worrying about, or what you said about worrying about it creating hate.
Israel has done everything.
They removed themselves from Gaza in 2005.
They gave the Gazans incredible land that they could have turned into another Miami.
That was part of the plan.
That was part of like the Jared Kushner concept.
And what did they do?
So they tried to do what you're suggesting, and what they got was October 7th.
But if they were given the opportunity to build a great city, but then they were under
a blockade, like walled in and under a blockade?
They got billions of dollars.
I mean, compared to them, the Gazans per capita get more money than Americans do, more money
than any other aid people in the world.
But they were being blockaded?
I don't know exactly
what was being blockaded,
but they were able to build it,
build an awful lot of stuff there,
including incredible tunnels.
If they can build a tunnel,
why can't they build a resort?
Hamas posted the video
of turning water pipes into rockets.
Yeah, they did.
Whether they actually were doing that
or it was propaganda,
that was their propaganda,
where they were like,
look at these water pipes they gave us.
Sounds like something that someone would do in that situation.
You have no money.
If you feel like you're being annihilated, you just use your basic weapons, whatever.
No one was annihilated.
No one's in there.
No one's bothering them.
If Gaza and Hamas disarm tomorrow, there would be peace.
If Israel disarmed tomorrow,
Gaza would exterminate them within two weeks.
What if everybody was armed?
I'm seeing that the UN spent 600 million on Gaza in 2020.
How much? 600 million?
600 million.
Just in 2020 alone
and has given,
gave 4.5 billion between 2014 and 2020.
I've asked a lot of people about and that's just the u.n like
what would happen and you know usually when i ask like what would happen if you know like hamas
surrendered and it'd be like the war's over and i'd be like and then what like and and gaza goes
on as it is and i'm like with the walls and everything like yeah of course and then whatever
they can do whatever they want and then i said okay what would happen if israel said we're
tearing the walls down palestinians have free reign to move would happen if israel said we're tearing the walls down
palestinians have free reign to move in and around israel you're not all welcome and i've never
gotten a straight answer because i think even the people who are who are critical of israel or even
as i would call it israel deranged understand what happens if israel takes the walls down and says
all of gaza please feel free to you get october 7th. Well, there were a lot of the, like, I remember the October 7th, there were a lot of the workers
who had passes to work in Israel were among those who were committing the atrocities on that day.
So they had, you know, already had access to Israel and they were coming in to do that.
It's kind of crazy.
I don't think that this, whatever this is,
there's no easy answer. My position is typically the America first one of just like,
oh, I don't know about the moral questions here, man. I don't know why we're involved.
And I know, I understand Ben Shapiro's argument about a US ally in the region,
the risks of rapid escalation if Israel goes, what do they call it, the Samson option,
and how the US needs to have a strong presence in controlling things to prevent the expansion into a massive World War III.
And I'm just like, I understand that.
My view more so is the U.S. is driving itself into World War III in a variety of different areas, particularly with Ukraine.
I don't see how our involvement is improving anything.
You're concerned about Ukraine, I share, completely. But Hamas's charter is wipe out Israel and then wipe out all the Jews, including American Jews. Well, they did change it.
They took that part about wiping out the Jews.
Just recently.
Just recently.
Well, I believe them.
Well, I feel better then.
And this is the crazy thing.
I believe it's in the Hadith.
What's that?
The line says, oh, you know, the tree says there's a Jew hiding behind me or something.
And that was in the Hamas charter only until recently.
So my point is.
I feel better.
Right.
Exactly.
I don't believe it.
It was a PR move.
It was a PR move.
And I'm not accusing you of this, but it was a PR move so that someone could make the argument you just made.
Why are we there?
Why are we helping them? They're very good at PR. very good at PR. People have made that argument to me. They're like, no,
that's not in the charter anymore. And I'm like, oh, come on. So what I've heard is that the PLO,
the Palestinian Liberation Organization, which was Yasser Arafat's Palestinian government in the late
1900s or 1990s, you know, up to relatively recently, that I heard that the Israelis were
involved with breaking them apart because they controlled the West Bank and Gaza, and it made it look like they're really going to
get a two-state solution. We don't want that. We want the territory. So let's create a new
government. We'll call it Hamas that can rule over in Gaza while the PLO can have the West Bank.
Now we have two disparate factions fighting each other, easy pickings, and they're villains so that
when they attack us, we can use it as a false flag. You know, if someone stole my land, right?
If someone came in and wiped out my family and stole my land, I would not sentence my
descendants to generations of hate and despair and poverty.
You move on.
In fact, most places in the world have done that.
That's exactly right. You move on. In fact, most places in the world have done that. That's exactly right.
You move on. But what they have done, what Hamas has done to the Gazans, and what Arafat did,
was sentence these people, innocent people, to generations of poverty and hate and vengeance,
and he destroyed their lives, and Hamas is destroying their lives and it doesn't matter
what happened in the past just move on but what about i figured it out right of return casinos
in in the gaza strip they can't gamble what about i know what about right of getting right my point
is i i talk about this because uh uh native americans for instance that's right in the
united states they're never going to reconquer the united states they've won lawsuits that's
what you do they've set up casinos
they they it was masterful i was reading about i believe a hard rock seminal what is what started
the wave of indian casinos it was in 70s they had a bingo hall the state said gambling is illegal
you can't do this they said you don't regulate us we're federal under the under the treaties
federal government said you're damn right we have jurisdiction here because the federal government's
not going to give up jurisdiction if they can keep it and they said no no no they're right
so they answered to us and the native americans were like we got a good deal for the federal
government tax money and then they were like let's roll and then indian casinos popped up all over
the place and now you've got these extremely wealthy tribes that have found a way to succeed
through the history that has been bad and i have i have no if anyone who looks at the
history of what happened to the american indian in this country it's indefensible and i have nothing
but sympathy and empathy for that a lot more than i have well for what's happening in israel and i
agree with you 100 they have arisen above it on the native american thing i think it's important
to question uh it's not it wasn't a monolith what happened to native americans wasn't
like i wouldn't say european colonists arriving in the united into the the into the into north
america is 100 the cause of all strife and all calamity for all the americans yeah so i wouldn't
i wouldn't necessarily say it's indefensible i'm like certainly there are many instances where
you know uh native americans went and killed a bunch of colonists for no reason and things like that had happened.
It was inevitable and indefensible.
That's the way I would put it.
I think there were things that were about like the Trail of Tears and things like that are indefensible.
And this is war.
The history of humanity has been conquest, I think, through moral philosophy, but mostly through abundance,
through technological advancement, we've come to the point where we're like, okay, you know,
now we don't really need to be stealing land from each other because we're all pretty much too fat as it is. Not everyone in the world, but you know, particularly in the United States and in the,
in the developed world, we got so much, so much resources that these things are starting to chill
out. Well, obesity is now a condition of poverty. That crazy yeah so so look uh we see this in the animal kingdom animals
predators that are well fed don't bother killing prey it's it's a risk so if you've got you know
a lion that's gonna go fight a gazelle or something there is a risk of death in doing that but it
needs to it needs to survive when you take these animals and put them in captivity and keep them well fed, there still is instinct, so it does happen.
But you'll see these videos where it's like a lion sitting and snuggling with a chicken or something because there's no reason to fight.
He's not hungry.
So that's where we are going, and I like these things. things now we're looking at other parts of the world that ideologically are driven towards
fighting for look honor i guess like that is our land our family was there a hundred years ago so
we're gonna just fight forever and it's a tough question because it i believe honor does matter i
mean we're facing an invasion on our southern border you've got the black community in chicago screaming that they're being replaced did you did you hear this yeah the black
community has some kind of replacement theory that they believe is happening it's isn't that
racist i'm told that's racist well that's just great not when they say it well that's what they've
been saying and obviously i'm being a little facetious but the black community chicago has
actually gone to meetings yelling you're replacing us because they're bringing these, these, these people.
And I think it's fair to be like, Hey, we have morals. We have traditions. We have values. We
don't want to lose. So we should control immigration. But there's a question of,
do you leave New York? Do you leave Chicago? Do you leave California? Find a better life.
I think there is a good argument for find where you can where you can thrive make money have a family and
then win financially and let the people who have the bad ideas fail and then over time you end up
winning but many people have said no you can't give up these cities to the far left so there
there is an interesting conundrum in would you actually give up your land if someone came to
take it from you versus i see your point it's been been what? 70 something years. Yeah, it's crazy.
And at this point,
maybe your best opportunity
is build success and wealth.
But if my dad was like,
you know, your grandma's house,
my whole life since I was a kid,
he's like that,
that the guy that lives there,
he stole that from your grandma
35 years, 47 years ago.
I'd be so pissed.
I would be so pissed.
And a dude was just living
in my grandma's house
and she had nothing.
Like I would be so mad. Why doesn't anyone ever get mad at-
Would you go try to kill that guy? If you ask me that now, I would say no. But if you stick me in
Gaza for 20 years, I don't know. But why does no one ever get mad at Egypt? I mean, there's three
crossings into Gaza. There's two from Israel and one from Egypt. Egypt supports this blockade fully.
Yeah, Egypt's- They are fully complicit and happy about it.
And you have also other nations in the region,
you have, you know, there's all these Palestinian refugees.
Other nations in the region are refusing to take them in.
So what's going on with that?
Why is it that these people are, you know,
why is it that this group of people are so unpalatable
to the rest of the people in the region?
It's not just Israel who comes against these people.
Do you know what I mean?
It's the strategy.
Like all of these nations have made a pact that they weren't going to take them as citizens
because they want a perpetual refugee population there, a stateless group of people, because
they want them to go into Israel.
It's all politics.
They could take these people.
And I know like there have been problems when you import a mass of them that they don't think the It's all politics. They could take these people. And I know like there have been problems.
When you import a mass of them.
That they don't think the government's radical enough.
This happened like where they try to assassinate the king of Jordan.
But the fact of the matter is.
They were citizens of Jordan.
Like there was no Palestine that Israel took over.
And they were citizens of Egypt.
But like the plan.
And all the Arab states are basically aligned on this.
Is to keep them there.
Have them be stateless people. Because eventually like in my opinion, it will work. Like I'm actually pretty doomer on
like the future of Israel because public pressure is already turning against them.
You can get attacked. It's the greatest terrorist attack in your history, proportionally one of the
worst in the world compared to their population. And public opinion is like not on their side.
And they're only losing public opinion
where here or even here it's like it's low but like worldwide i mean now granted there's like
55 countries with built-in animosity to the for the jump but yeah they're losing public opinion
on the world stage so this is the design this is the plan and i think back when the 67 war happened
and they actually expanded into this territory they should have sent the people there because what happened when to the jewish populations in all these other
countries they were they were removed from their countries and they had to go to israel
the important thing people need to understand about war is that you're not making any moral
arguments it's never going to happen there is no circumstance where you say hey israel what you did
was wrong and unjust well i think their response is going to be we There is no circumstance where you say, hey, Israel, what you did was wrong and unjust.
I think their response is going to be we're at war.
Have a nice day.
I think repopulation violates the Geneva Convention.
It does, but it's one of those things that now it's like it sounds super horrible.
But Germany is a state for Germanic people.
Italy is a state for Italian people.
Like different ethnic groups have separated to form their own states throughout all of human history i mean austria hungary two separate ethnic groups they split off into two
different countries like you need to like if you can't get along with the with two groups can't get
along like one of the what are you your option is this is to form your own countries this is what
the kurds have been trying to do forever are you suggesting we should have a national divorce
in america i don't think so necessarily in america but one of the things i think about right of return because
we're talking about like repopulation going is like you were saying earlier john i kind of agree
with you got both you and tim that just because my my parents owned a house i'm born i don't have
a right to that house so what is this right of return so so let me let me i think it's i by de
facto i don't own it when i'm born so let guy that owns it owns it. So let's play a game.
Your grandpa goes to you and he says
son 75 years
ago your great grandfather lived
in that house and that guy who's
in there his great grandfather came in
with a gun pointed at us and kicked us
out and now we don't have it anymore.
You need to get it back.
So then you get your buddies together
and you go to the house you bang on the
door and you're like give me back my house and the guy goes who are you and you're like my great
grandfather owned this house but your great grandfather stole it from him and then he goes
what your great grandfather wasn't even here there was no one in this house i came here your
grandfather was across the street and you're gonna be like that's not what my great grandfather said
and i'm sitting here as like an adjudicator being like yo what yeah i don't i don't like that
it belonged to my ancestors so now it belongs to me i don't like that no no that's not and i'm sitting here as like an adjudicator being like yo what yeah i don't i don't like that it belonged to my ancestors so now it belongs to me i don't like that no no that's
not what i'm saying you don't know you've got the pro-israel side saying that's not true and the
pro-palestine saying pro-palestine says it's our land we can prove it pro-israel side says no it's
not we can prove it and then the united states is stupid in my opinion for being involved in a
dispute that has has no like you're not you
can't solve i don't i think that trying to build israel there because that's the place that they
were 2 000 years ago is like the palestinians saying i want my house back it's the same my
point is you are you are operating under the assertion it actually was their land which is
disputed by the opposing faction oh okay i okay. I am not Israel or Palestine.
I am the United States.
And I say, I don't see why we're involved in their dispute over this.
I would just take your metaphor even further.
Look at what you were talking about, the strategy.
If you care about the people in that area, they're the ones that are suffering because
of that bullshit and because of the strategy that he's talking about.
It is the Gazans, the civilians, they are the ones generationally being abused by Egypt and the Palestinians and Hamas.
They're the ones doing the suffering.
Israel's doing pretty good.
You know, they built a little paradise over there.
I know October 7th happened. But the true victim of all this are the people that are being kept in poverty
and are being taught to hate and vengeance and are being told, you need to go get your
grandfather's house. That's your identity. Go get your grandfather's house.
And now here's another thing too. Ben and Jerry's came out and they were like,
we should, you know, the U.S. is on stolen land. We should give it back.
And then some Native Americans were like, your factory is on stolen land.
You should give it back.
And they were like, wait, no, we don't want to do that.
Not for us.
But think about the United States.
There are Native Americans who are worth hundreds of millions of dollars or millions of dollars, wildly successful. uh there there is this like after a long period of time i don't think the answer is for wealthy and successful native americans who have made a good life to be like okay now i'm
going to go physically fight to take they wouldn't jerry's fact they were bought a lot of those
chiefs were bought out in the process of the of the colonization so they were very wealthy a lot
of them they weren't like the slaves they were my point is you're better off living on barren land than fighting in a war yeah just go go do your
own thing just let it go and do your own thing that's the key to a good life and the other thing
about this whole colonized land that that indian tribe that said that they owned the ben and jerry's
land maybe they did but you go back in time they stole it from someone and then they stole it from
someone so who do you give it to do you look for someone who's who's who's part of a cave well have you ever
seen the uh conquest and energy have you ever seen the there's a viral video it's called like
this this land is my land god gave this land to me it went viral like 14 years ago and it's basically
it's a song where they're singing this land is my land and and it basically just shows an animation of
every different group that has taken so who do you give it to the what are they what do they
call the region what's the proper term the levant the levant is it like they showed all the different
factions that had taken it and lost it and taken it and lost it you go so far back i don't even
know if there's a video go back all the way to the canaanites before the the israelite even
existed like the canaanites but this is the this is the problem with it is my that my ancestral land argument it's funny because
what they're doing right now is they're saying vladimir putin is evil he's just like hitler he's
not going to stop at ukraine he thinks ukraine is his and then you go well 70 years ago it was
soviet union and then you ask the same exact people now what about the palestinians who want to take back they what they claim is theirs in israel because that used to be their
land well but they're they're the oppressed it's okay if the oppressed want to want to attack
someone else to take land they think is theirs but if you're an oppressor you can't take attack
land that in that dumb argument the oppressor oppressed has removed all logic all facts all history and all morality from
the argument this is this is the funny thing there's a justification of war so let me ask
you a question uh you you you uh do you agree with or or uh sympathize let's let's assume
the land uh in israel that palestinians claim is theirs is there just for the sake of argument
do you sympathize with them and believe they have a right to take it back?
I don't think they have a right. Oh, God, I've never been there. I don't know what the conditions
are really like. But like you said, oppressed people that are overthrowing tyranny can maybe
make a claim for a just war. People that have all the control that are stomping out
powerless civilians do not have a justification for that, in my opinion.
So you would go with the critical theory on because Israel's stronger,
they don't have a right to defend themselves or what?
No, no, they do have a right to defend themselves.
Always, always, always.
But is the war declaration justified
of them taking their houses back?
I don't know, man.
I don't think so.
I don't, what is it?
The UN said that Israel's in violation
of international law with the occupation.
But I don't know if that really gives them a right to attack and kill.
That pertains to Gaza or the West Bank.
I'll answer it.
I think there was a period of time where the land's in dispute.
People fight over land historically, and they should fight.
But what I'm annoyed by is if you lose the war, you lost the war.
It's sad what happened to the natives.
I will say there are wealthy natives, but they are poorer on average than most groups
in the United States.
So they still are suffering.
We should have assimilated them into the population like some of the founders wanted to.
Unfortunately, others won out on that.
But for the for the Palestinian cause, yeah, they fought the wars multiple times.
They did not win.
So like there's this weird thing where it's like in this specific conflict. And this is why I hate the ceasefire talk, because if ceasefires worked,
this would be the most peaceful place on planet Earth. The problem that we have here is that
throughout most of human history, when you started a war, you knew that if you lost,
you were going to be annihilated. So you were very cautious about starting wars. What we do
when we're like when
when we're constantly police this action or that action or try to get them to use the least amount
of force possible is we just sow the seeds for the second conflict and we lower the barrier or
that we lower the consequences for initiating force against another country like in japan like
we were like okay you're gonna bomb pearl harbor you're going to feel the full force of the United States of America.
You're never going to do this again.
Yeah.
In Germany.
That's sort of a.
And we occupied them since then.
Yeah.
In Germany, they declared war on us.
They didn't actually attack us in Pearl Harbor for no reason.
They decided they were going to declare war on us.
And it's like, okay.
No.
You're going to feel the full force.
We blew up one of the submarines.
Actually, we declared war on Germany when the submarine sunk one of our ships.
I got a question for you guys.
What started World War II? Hitler's invasion of poland i believe why did hitler invade poland to get land back that used to be germany liebenstein according to him was it was
it was it danzig i think it is yeah you you brought that up anyway a couple weeks ago carlson
brought that up okay so we only commented on what he was talking about. It was more than just Danzig, I think, but that was a big city. And what happened was, after World War I, Germany, what was the treaty?
Treaty of Versailles.
The Treaty of Versailles.
Sign of Versailles.
Paris.
And impoverished Germany.
Right.
Took a bunch of their land, stripped it away, gave authority.
Made the pale the debts of all the other countries.
Right.
And so they were, so you have this country with hyperinflation, the Weimar Republic is
struggling.
Yeah.
And what happens?
Hitler, who was deranged, utilized the anger these people felt, weaponized it in stupid
ways, obviously, and psychotic and deadly ways.
But it was very much, oh, hey, I get to start a war because that lands historically ours
and we have a right to it. And that was his. he said that city was historically germany give it back poland said
no he said okay declared war yeah it was more too i've heard that there were they were the people
in danzig that were considered the social germans were being genocided by the new polish government
they wanted the city for poland and uh hitler was like oh god those are by the way there there
is a lot of truth to eastern europe European cities being set up by the Germans.
Like that actually is like historically accurate,
but that doesn't necessarily mean
you could invade that territory.
But I'm going to nerd out and say
Japan started World War II
because they were invading countries in Asia before that.
Right, absolutely.
They were super aggro.
But I mean like, what triggered-
I say Mussolini started World War I.
Mussolini's invasion of East Africa
gave Hitler the Kansas belly.
Yo, it's wild.
Like World War II was like legit all over the place.
It was in Africa, it was everywhere.
It was like a world war.
Yes, right.
Now that you mention it.
But this is my thing.
Like they say Putin wants to take back Ukraine
and it's because Ukraine was historically Russia.
So he thinks there's a right to it.
And I'm like,
so the Palestinians don't have a right to Israel.
Israeli state.
Are they not saying they have a right to the territory?
And to the Israeli state,
I believe the claim of the,
well,
you're going to call it occupation or whatever you want to call it,
is that they have a right to the territory.
It's the same thing.
Putin's saying about Ukraine that the Germans said about it.
It's like the other question is where are the Jews supposed to go?
Like, where are they supposed to go in the world i live with them amongst us i don't even know who's jewish but i don't even want to i don't even want to say jewish because there's
other people who live in israel where are the israelis supposed to go if if the if the palestinians
have their way and to the river to the sea to the sea and from the river to the sea becomes you know
from the jordan river all the way to the you know right they want them to go to the sea becomes, you know, from the Jordan River all the way to the, you know, Mediterranean. Right, they want them to go to the sea.
Yes.
So where are they supposed to go?
You mean if I make such a groundbreaking argument that they actually declare peace, like where are they going to go?
Well, I don't think, yeah.
I mean, do you think, I don't think that Hamas has any intention of having a peaceful situation with Israel.
Like at this point, the Palestinians would need to have a completely new leadership
structure. And you have the Palestinian Authority making deals with, you know, having like backroom
conversations or whatever with Hamas. Because together, like, if they unified, then there's
an even bigger problem for Israel. But Israel removed all of the settlements, all of the Israeli
settlements from Gaza in like 2005. And we're like, OK, have your have your spot, you know, and we're going to go over here.
We're going to maintain really secure borders because I know that you have a lot of terrorists.
But it was only after Biden got elected that, according to like the Wall Street Journal reporting,
it was after Biden got elected that Hamas started making these plans to do this invasion.
And it's pretty interesting, I think, that timing
because Donald Trump doesn't have, you know,
Donald Trump is like the crazy homeless guy
on the corner with a knife.
You're going to back away, right?
Like one thing I really liked about Donald Trump
is like he was pretty clear.
If you come after the US, if you come after our allies,
we're just going to destroy you is what's going to happen.
Like we're going to have a disproportionate response.
And as an American, if my country is under a threat, I want a president who's going to
be no holds barred about a response.
I don't want a proportionate response if you attack America.
I don't want that to be proportionate.
Like I'm not, I don't want to, you know, mess around with you so that maybe you like keep
chucking bombs at us or whatever.
You know what I mean?
Plus that's the best way to keep peace.
And it's a good way to keep peace.
Scare the hell out of the other guy. Talk quietly, stick what was what was that trump quote he's like on the voicemail and he's like yeah i told
she and putin that if they if he took taiwan or he took ukraine i'd nuke moscow or beijing i love
this and he was like i don't know if they believed me but maybe five percent exactly like just believe
him a little bit and then suddenly we're gonna have some peace we
had peace in israel and one thing that hamas definitely doesn't want and the hard line
islamists don't want they don't want saudi arabia and the uae having any kind of normalized
relations with israel and i think a lot of this is about messing up that kind of diplomacy look
take everything democrats have said about trump completely at face value and true and now be a foreign leader.
And he comes up to you.
He's like, well, if you take Ukraine, I'll nuke Moscow.
And you're like, that's great.
Is this guy for real?
What do I do?
Have you seen the reports about this guy?
He's nuts.
That's that's a thing that I like about Trump.
He keeps peace by, you know, and he kept peace in the United States by just like appearing like he could do
anything. You never knew. And I like that. I like that in a president. Biden, it's like, oh, you
know, if you blow up New York, Biden's going to be like, oh, I'm sorry, did we do something to
offend you? Yeah, let's be proportional. Do you need more gay stuff? But the answer to your
question, where would the Jews go? That was the whole point of creating Israel. Right. Because
they had no place to go after the Holocaust.
They had been destroyed.
It wasn't just what the Nazis did to them.
It's what all of Europe did to them.
It's what Russia did to them with the program.
So they went back to their homeland,
which they feel they have a claim on going back to the Book of Moses 4,000 years ago.
Well, and it's kind of convenient, too, to put Israel there right in harm's way.
It's convenient for Europe and for the United States, you know, because then
Israel takes all the slings and arrows and we're
just over here like, yeah, we'll give you
a right to a check. I certainly think there's a very
large religious component to it as well.
Oh yeah, definitely. With the,
you know, the red heifer stuff
and the eschatology or whatever. Those are fascinating
conversations, but there absolutely are
people who believe it. I'm not saying the government
believes it. The conversations I've had with the very anti-Israel faction, these people say
they don't think Israel really believes the deep religious stuff and the second coming or anything
like that. But there are powerful political forces within Israel and outside of Israel that are
Christian or Jewish that certainly believe that they've got to take the heifer, sacrifice it and all that stuff or whatever that is.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Realistically, I would say that Jewish people could live wherever they want on earth, wherever
safe and enjoyable, like United States.
I live, my best friends have been Jewish throughout life and I didn't even know, I don't know
what that means.
I don't, it's no different than Christian in my mind, but they weren't hardcore practicing.
And I understand why they would want a community of people that shut everything down on Saturday
and everyone's cool with it. I kind of miss when stuff got shut down
on sundays when i grew up in massachusetts stuff would be closed on sundays what religion kind of
like had to take a break uh christianity you know you close the sundays the sabbath day chick-fil-a
everybody was chick-fil-a everybody was chick-fil-a but like you'd go into stores and you
couldn't buy in blue in massachusetts they had blue laws i don't know if they still do but like
you couldn't buy liquor on sunday they have that where i live they still can't i think
not till noon or something in pennsylvania i think the state stores you can't you can't buy cars in
uh i'm pretty sure in virginia on on sunday oh my gosh yeah well there's a new demonic technology
when they wrote that law in 1911 or whatever but to your point like you can't you can't have the
stores open on sunday and i don't know when they made the law just saying but to your point about like uh they could live in the
united states yeah that's the second most like jewish populated country in the world the united
states but like the idea is minority populations historically or distinct ethnic groups find their
own state and like for the for the jewish people it makes sense like all their things are there
like you know all the things in their book that that's like down the street.
Now, if they formed a nation, like let's say they lost the war and they had to be pushed
off and they had to form a nation on like an island somewhere and they went with that.
I'd be like, fine.
Like, you know, you lost.
I'm sorry that all your like religious texts, like items and places are all in that location.
But they ended up winning the war.
So do you think it's okay for an ethnic
group to find and create their own state i think it's the history of the world people form uh form
their states based on ethnic origin or shared religion or something shared taiwan like like
anywhere like france like the idea of a that's an ideology actually yeah like of an ethno state
like the purpose of their government is to protect their i think in the united i think to to the united states becoming an ethno state i think that's
a pipe dream that people don't i don't know i'm just i'm just clarified but i'm not israel most
countries in the history of the world are ethnic or ethno states like it's just a fact or religion
or shared religion right so so you would say yes yes 100 but what so the question is about europe
yeah i think germany look germany should be for german when autobahn bismarck united germany into Yes, 100%. So the question is about Europe. Yeah, I think Germany...
Look, Germany should be for German people.
When Otto von Bismarck united Germany into one state in the 1800s,
the reason they did that is because Germanic people needed their own state.
They had cities in Eastern Europe that they had put together,
and the native population didn't like the German elite in those cities.
When also in the 1800s, the first time like Italian unification happened, it
was about having a state for Italian people.
Like this is the history of the world.
So a hundred percent of my favorite.
France for the French, Italy for the Italian.
Yes.
The thing about Israel though, Israel, I agree a lot of ways.
Like that is how societies form culturally over time.
You develop an ethnic state and then you make a state out of it or whatever.
But the, the Jewish state got built by a law. It wasn't like naturally over time for develop an ethnic state and then you make a state out of it or whatever but the the jewish state got built by a law it wasn't like naturally over time for thousands of years
they got placed there in 1917 or some ridiculous like they just all of a sudden it just appeared
and all this new ethnicity appeared there and they were like this is our land and anyone else
that's not this ethnicity might have a problem with that and that's like so forcing an ethnic
state is might be a different argument a lot of
a lot of ethnic states were created in the immediate aftermath of world war ii like pakistan
was created was actually cut off from india and then there was actually east and west pakistan
which one became bangladesh but yeah it was created suddenly and like the lead-up was and
there was a jewish president's presence but if you look at the ottoman records they kept it very low
like 5 000000 Jewish people
in that territory. But over time, after the Ottoman Empire fell, they started buying up land,
establishing a presence. The British ended up receiving that territory after World War I,
when the Ottoman Empire fell, prize of war. And they promised, they actually promised two states,
one for the soon-to-be-called Palestinian population, one for the soon to be called palestinian population one for the uh the soon to be called
israeli population and you know that they didn't really deliver on that i believe there was an
assassination of a british official i forgot and by an uh by a jewish like terrorist that
assassinated him and the brits were like all right we're out of here you figure it out and they kind
of they or they turned it over to the un they have have a war that is what is now Israel won.
And like, that's it is what it is.
That's one way to put it.
It is what it is.
But I mean, are you are you satisfied with what it is?
Sometimes I'm not satisfied and there's better ways that it can be.
I mean, I could be satisfied, but like I could be satisfied or not satisfied, but it doesn't
matter.
Like states form on ethnic or religious grounds, like the Jewish people, both ethnically and
religiously have formed in this location as
their state.
The challenges to their statehood being wars were lost.
So like it exists.
Like, so once you've already been established, like that's it.
You're a country.
Yeah.
And I should point out in case people are wondering, I've never asked to dissolute Israel
in any form.
I love Jew, Jewish.
Everything about God is like what I'm
into right now. Like a true Jew. I mean, that is like the essence of our Abrahamic faith.
That's where it comes from. But I would say the same thing if it was the Kurds, like, you know,
a historic group that has been stateless, that has experienced like oppression, the Armenians,
you know, they, I believe they form reformed their state in the nineties, right? Like I believe it's
that recent, you know, they face oppression for the turks and i believe they were they might have been under the soviet union
but i could be wrong about that like yeah and a bunch of states formed after the soviet union fell
like you know brand new states but ukraine being one of them yeah so like i i would be like it's
it's just how the world tends to work like historically and i think if they reshaped iraq and syria into a sunni
shia and kurdish like three separate states that would also be a solid plan who is they
well i'm just saying if that's they separate it off yeah who is that yeah who is that we all know
no but like if those groups can't live together and they separate like that's what happens like
we live in a very american context where we're like, like, I live in New York City,
Italian neighborhood, you know, or German signs, like in Astoria, Queens, like you see
Steinway, it's a German sign.
It's literally the most diverse place on planet Earth.
When they did the human genome study, they did it right there because you have 170 plus
languages.
That's beautiful.
That's something that can work in the united states of america they can't work with two different religions in
israel and gaza you're saying over there so you think mass diversity multiculturalism like that
in new york you said yeah i said in the story like you have all these people living together
perfectly fine like you know there's some problems but it's relatively fine by comparison story is
pretty cool yeah it's where i had my first gyro. Yeah, in an American context.
And you probably had it on a German named street
because it used to be a German.
I live near Steinway.
Yeah.
I live on 31st.
So like that can work.
And we all expect that to work.
And we think that our context in America
can be applied over the history of the world.
But let's not be dishonest about it.
We had conflict with the natives,
conflict with black Americans,
conflict amongst different European ethnic groups. And over time, we were able to work that out.
These people are in their conflict phase, and it's greater than what we experienced. They're
like constantly at war. We never had like an actual race war in the United States of America.
We had a civil war.
We had a civil war instead.
Do you think Israel is going to have a civil war?
Inside Israel? No. But like with these, if they were to merge the countries, like, you know,
absorb the population, these one staters who just want the Arabs to have
the majority so that they can vote to kill the Jews, right. If they were to do that, that would
lead to a civil war, which is what happened to start Israel. Like that territory, that was what
that was. They just weren't a nation yet. With our, with our comeuppance is our, this, a nation
that's given us the groundwork and stability to host 180 different cultures or whatever you were talking about in one city.
Like we fought a civil war and it ended up with putting a ton of power in
the central authority and the federal government after that,
like Abraham Lincoln just seized control and made it basically,
that was the end of the Republic.
If you want to ask some of the greatest minds or at least there was one guy
who said that,
uh,
I kind of agree.
The,
the civil war is like,
we can't do this republic anymore.
It's not working.
We need a central authority.
It's too big to have a republic
is what they thought.
And it's yet to be disproven
because we're still together.
But do countries need that
in order to support this forced integration?
One of the things that I take a lot from Israel
is Israel established itself as a nation.
It hadn't been a nation previously, right?
It also, I forget the guy's name,
but the guy who basically said,
Hebrew has not been a spoken language.
We're gonna turn it into a spoken language.
And he said, we're only gonna speak Hebrew to our kids.
And he resurrected Hebrew, right?
And that's a pretty fascinating thing.
He said, this is our culture
and we're gonna make a place that our culture is and i look at america and we have you know growing up we all
grew up in this country we had a really rich culture you could kind of understand it right
you knew like what the cultural norms were there was a lot of there was baseball there was apple
pie cooling on the windowsill these were whether these were our homes or not these were some of
the things that we looked to we had this idea of what it would be
when we grew up in this country,
we would be able to own a home.
You know, if we wanted to do that,
we would be able to go West and pursue our dreams.
We'd be able to have families.
You know, we expected that the cultural infrastructure
would exist to teach our children about our history,
our language, our shared beliefs, our shared
understanding, the social religion of kindness and generosity that basically exists regardless
of what your religion is at home. And then we have had the past like, what, 30, 40 years of
directly undermining that and cutting off our own culture at the knees and saying everything that
America was built on is
wrong. So everything that exists in America is wrong and needs to be dismantled. And I look at
a country like Israel or like you're talking about ethnostates, and I think America doesn't have that.
And that's a good thing. But why is it that we are destroying our culture and saying it's terrible
and replacing it with something that, you know, has a morality like
shifting sand, where we can't stand on it. We can't send our children to any schools and expect
that they will even be educated in our own history. Our institutions are no longer stewards of our
culture. They're no longer stewards of our history. Like, why is it that we have so much to say about
every other nation on earth and what they're doing, you know, and how they're treating their conflicts or whatever, when we have absolutely no interest in preserving or stewarding
our country and keeping it, you know, keeping it whole.
We just let it totally crumble.
We just let it be attacked constantly.
I'm so sick of that.
We used to have so much buy-in in America that people would not teach their children their native language from where they came from.
Not because they wanted them to be uneducated.
This is my great-grandparents.
But because they wanted them to speak English.
They wanted them to integrate into the country.
You couldn't say a bad thing about America to any of my great-grandparents.
And they were Italian.
They were Norwegian.
And then there were the Yankees.
And they were the same.
I think a second language is super valuable.
I wish I would have learned Spanish from my mother,
but like that used to be the norm in America,
German immigrants and throughout all of his Italian immigrants.
And it's like, it wasn't like you were losing it
because you're being Americanized,
which is considered so negative.
It was, you were choosing to make sure
your children were American.
Like we, that is a special thing.
You wanted it.
You wanted American.
That's a special buy-in that we
had in this country and like i you know i love america and i want other places to be more like
it but i have to like deal with the practical reality that that's not the case i mean scotland
and and uh what you got scotland and uh england they're on the same island britain they've fought
for over petty differences forever and they're like, even though they're in one United Kingdom,
they're still distinct peoples from one another.
And they're as close as you can get to being the same.
So like,
this is,
this is just what people tend to do.
And like,
you know,
we've tried to move past it here,
but it's not something that everywhere in the world is ready for,
especially not in the middle East,
especially not in Israel and Gaza and
what's the other one?
The West Bank.
I think that one of the great things about America, though, because what you're saying
is right, but we have 50 states and you can find what you're looking for if you move.
You can't necessarily, it turns out.
You can go to Wyoming.
You can always go to Wyoming. You can always go to
Wyoming. You can always go to Texas. I just left New York last year and I moved out here and I
love it out here, but I have not found what I grew up with. But I find if you, you know, in the cities,
things are bad because Democrats run the cities and there's division and they're removing merit.
They're ginning up the race issues, which we didn't have.
When I grew up, Oprah, Bill Cosby, Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, Prince, Michael Jackson, they were the biggest stars in the world.
Now we've become very divided.
But the secret to America is that you just have to go
where things are normal, where there's sanity.
And that's the great thing about the country
is that it's so huge.
It's so big.
And I think another good thing that's happening
is the way that we're atomizing the culture.
Now that like this, what we're doing right here,
this wasn't here 20 years ago.
It was ABC, CBS,
and NBC. And now people can find their own culture and be a part of that like they did for 10,000,
100,000 years of human history until mass culture came along. So the great thing about America,
you have the states and it's so big and so vast that you can't hide from it. And I've always said
the Amish figured it out.
The Amish knew what they were doing.
They moved to the most rural parts of America.
They unplugged from the mainframe and they held on to their culture.
They also moved to like one of the only places in the United States where you can actually grow cocaine.
You can like grow coca leaves there in Lancaster.
That explains the work ethic.
Right?
Yeah.
Lancaster?
What state's that in?
It's in Pennsylvania. Just asking for a friend. Yeah. I grew up by Amish. Lancaster. That explains the word Catholic. Right? Yeah. Lancaster? What state's that in? It's in Pennsylvania. Just asking
for a friend. Yeah.
I grew up by Amish. Lancaster?
I don't know. I'm not from there.
Maybe that's the British pronouncing. Lancaster
instead of what Lancaster? Sounds like how John Lennon would say it.
Lancaster. I'm going to go with Lancaster.
It sounds more American. I grew up near the Amish. We used to make fun of those
people growing up. I can say Worcester. I can say that okay.
I knew some Amish people growing up and I would kind of
just thought like, oh, I feel so sad for them.
They're never going to get to play video games like me.
They have Roomspringa.
They can do anything they want in Roomspringa.
What's Roomspringa?
It's like your gap year from being Amish.
You get to go live in the world and check it out.
It is Lancaster.
Lancaster.
Not Lancaster.
Did you guys know the Amish are really bad at solving murders?
No.
Their forensics are centuries behind.
No, they got to figure it out.
And that's what everybody can do.
That's the great thing about this country is that you can unplug.
You can remove yourself, and you can have your own culture.
You're not always going to be able to do that.
Eventually, the Democrats are going to win the Supreme Court, and it's all going to be over.
That's the beginning of the end, and that's inevitable. Do you think that they're going to pack the court? I don't think they're going to win the Supreme Court and it's all going to be over. That's the beginning of the end and that's inevitable.
Do you think that they're going to pack the court?
I don't think they're going to have to.
I think they're going to win enough elections.
And then as soon as the Supreme Court is left wing, America is over.
We're going to lose.
All they need is five justices and it's going to be over.
So, but I don't know.
Hopefully that won't happen in my lifetime.
I'm glad I'm 58 instead of 28.
Don't plant seeds of trees you don't want to see.
That's a good point too. I'm concerned with that too, man. I don't like seeds of trees you don't want to see. That's a good point, too.
I'm concerned with that, too, man.
I don't like putting that immense amount of power in the hands of 13 people.
That's ridiculous.
Or how many?
Nine.
Nine.
Or nine.
Nine dudes get to choose the fate of this.
They're not all dudes.
Yeah, well, everybody's a dude in my mind, but I know what you mean.
But yeah, all these people, they're all cool dudes.
What's up, homies?
Nine people?
No, man, we need at least
they're there to answer they're there to like answer the unsolvable questions right like that's
what their job is hey congress passed this law or my state passed this law or this is a thing that
happened is it in line with the constitution and their job is to say yes or no it's not in line
with the constitution and it turns out their job is to decide whether or not to answer the questions that people
Well, they don't have to answer all the questions.
You can't answer all the questions.
Some of them, they let the lower court's rulings stand and they say, no, we're not going to
go with that one.
But what you talked about is what's happening to the Supreme Court.
Right.
All the standards, all the basic things that we agreed on, like what you talked about,
they're going away.
So you get a, what's her name?
Contangi Jackson Brown.
Contangi Brown Jackson. Yeah're going away. So you get a, what's her name? Contangi Jackson Brown. Contangi Brown Jackson.
Yeah, Contangi. She's who completely looks at rights, not from a human rights point of view,
but from a racial point of view.
Yeah, she looks at it in the oppression hierarchy.
Exactly. So that's when the Supreme Court breaks down. You get five of her,
we're done because she's going to rationalize every left wing thing. Take away the guns.
Once we lose the guns, it's over.
So but in the meantime, think about the Amish.
They got it all figured out.
And we will lose on the Supreme Court because, you know, Republicans are 50 50 at best at appointing justices.
And like, you know, a constitutional or textualist philosophy, they'll say, oh, political.
They'll use political political questions doctrine to refuse to deal with something like that.
But as soon as they have a majority, they're going to press on on all these issues, like,
you know, Roe versus Wade, like they invented a right to privacy and added abortion into the right
of privacy. Like, that's how we got that precedent. Yeah. And like that, there's a bunch of different
precedents where they're like, oh, well, you know, you have to adjust it.
Like, you know, Ruth Bader Ginsburg would say the Constitution is a living document.
It's like if you have a living constitution, it might as well be dead.
Like we have an amendment process in order to make changes.
And now we've gotten to a time where we're talking about the country resting on which nine people are on the Supreme Court.
This was supposed to be the weakest branch of government. And it's now arguably the strongest behind the presidency, which is a complete inversion
of how it's supposed to be.
It was supposed to be Congress, president, court.
And then we kind of flipped that, although the president's powerful in other regards,
more powerful.
Well, Congress is just dysfunctional.
Yeah, I was going to say they're the most powerful civil aspect of our government, the courts.
But then I was like, well, Congress is civil, but they're not really.
But I didn't want to make that joke because I like those people, some of them.
Some of them?
I mean, are they considered civilians, people that serve in Congress?
I would think so.
That's our civilian.
But the executive branch is not civilian.
We call it a civilian government.
Except the—
Yeah, yeah, because the commander is supposed to be a civilian in that role of the commander of the military for the time
well so you're talking about shall we move on then and and and talk about prophecy in the end
of the world i would love to all right so there's an earthquake in new york now that we're rapidly
shifting off that was the longest segment we've ever done epicenter of the new york city new jersey
earthquake was near trump national golf club ground shook very hard what a great quote i don't think near is fair i think at is a better way to
put it so you have uh here's the image of the epicenter of the earthquake notice the highways
here notice everything you can pull up trump's golf club it's literally right there it's there
the trump golf club is the epicenter, thus proving Trump
is either going to
save humanity
or condemn it.
What say you, panel?
Do we have any reports
of damage from Bedminster?
I don't think
there's any damage.
I think a garbage can
tipped over.
Right.
I think that
they will rebuild.
Just like Ruth Bader Ginsburg
wants you to think
the Constitution is alive,
I think the Earth is alive.
I think it is.
I think at the very least
it's a lot of living organisms making up one big organism kind of like our bodies with all these living
cells making up one living organism and i think this is not a coincidence so you're saying conscious
rock the earth or at least sentient or something about watching msnbc too much yeah it was in
taiwan and now it's at bedminster i mean mean, it could just be total coincidence. I just, the magnetic nature of the universe
and earthquakes met lightning
in the way that magma is magnetic and flows.
And like, it's all kind of connected.
I think Letitia James just filed a motion
saying he overvalued this property.
Didn't write that it was on a fault line.
So is it true though?
No, because that's actually,
some people were saying that Letitia James
is threatening to bring up charges
against Trump for the earthquake.
But that he didn't.
He overvalued it.
It actually makes sense.
He said, never had an earthquake, 0% chance in a filing 20 years ago.
And she's got them now.
It's the Ramapo fault that goes under New Jersey.
We live in a simulation.
And the Mandela effect is because they can't erase all of our memories when the simulation changes.
I'm kidding, by the way. But, like, it's just there's so many weird things that go on it's insane
yeah it was an earthquake i was like wow did you hear this this morning we were doing the show and
like people are texting like there's an earthquake and then they're like oh and by the way it was
like at trump trump's golf club are you before this oh we're gonna say i was gonna say put that
in a book no one would believe it right yeah. You get a movie. No one would believe it. Stories in the Bible.
When they write the history and they'll be like, shortly before Trump arrived at court for, you know, for this proceeding, there was an earthquake at his golf resort, which shocked the nation or whatever.
And people are going to be like, no, come on.
Yeah.
Right.
Go on.
They're embellishing everything.
Announcing the arrival of the host.
In the Bible, they'll talk about like great natural disasters wiping out
unjust people i think was sodom and gomorrah they say that it i don't know what it was that
destroyed the city an explosion i think it was built on a salt mine one of those cities so the
fumes from sulfur caught fire and the whole place lit up i don't know exactly but what sodom and
gomorrah yeah gomorrah smote them smote them yeah like god struck it down so i wonder i was thinking
last night like if there's some horrible tragedy about to occur on the planet earth and god steps in and stops it with a natural
disaster like it would be horrible well here's a question i have i don't know if you guys have
the answer for this how did god smote saddam and gomorrah smite smote is the past tense that's
what i'm that's right because he smote them smote them smoted how did he smite i like smited that's
the past he smate them there was such a path. That's the past tense. He smate them
in such a path.
It's two.
Well, like he already did
something.
How did he do it?
So it's past tense.
Wouldn't it be plural?
Smeet?
Smeet.
How smitten were they?
All right.
Sorry to interrupt you.
My point was like,
was it,
does the Bible describe it
as a miraculous destruction
or did God use natural means
to destroy them, right?
Did, like,
did a volcano erupt
and wipe them out
or was it like a beam from the sky came in low orbit,
ion cannon to them into oblivion?
It was rains of sulfur and fire.
Yeah, I don't think there's a natural disaster.
That sounds like a natural disaster.
That could be a natural disaster.
Rains of sulfur and fire.
Yeah, they had salt mines.
Well, wouldn't that be like, I mean, you could have,
well, yeah, there were the salt mines
and then Lot, his wife turned into salt because she looked back. Was that Gamora? Yeah, weren't they fleeing? Wasn't that be like, I mean, you could have, well, yeah, there were the salt mines and then Lot, his wife, turned into salt because she looked back.
Was that Gamora?
Yeah, weren't they fleeing?
Wasn't that them?
I read, I watched something where they said it was a nuclear bomb.
Oh, yeah, it was.
Aliens nuked Sodom and Gomorrah because they were debaucherous and spreading disease.
And the reason why they said do not look back or you'll turn to a pillar of salt is because she got vaporized by the shockwave.
But that's one of those ancient aliens things.
You know what I mean?
Ancient alien theorists say yes.
I'm not a earthquake expert.
I think they call them geologists.
But is the epicenter-
Seismologists.
Oh, see, there we go.
You don't even have that one.
There we go.
I said, I think.
You're not a vocabularist either.
Is the epicenter the strongest point
or just the origin point?
So maybe Trump was shooting out the earthquake at his enemies because it did hit New York City.
Like the eye of a hurricane.
So Trump's in his underground lair and he's like, we're going to teach Letitia James a lesson.
Activate the device.
I mean, look at that quote.
He's like, it shook very hard.
That has to be a Trump quote, right?
Right.
Very hard.
The hardest.
The hardest 4.2 earthquake
you can imagine.
It would have been
every moment of it.
It would have been more,
but then they reduced
my bond amount.
So I just threw him
a little bit of a 4.something.
So the reason I asked
about whether
Sodom and Gomorrah
was destroyed
by natural means,
like the question is
when God takes an action,
does it appear miraculous?
Like a magical beam of light
or a volcano erupts?
I think it depends on the miracle.
I mean, if you look at the Bible.
This is why I ask, because if it is God uses natural means, then is he smiting Trump?
That's a good question.
Or has he smoten or smote New York?
I think Trump, like I said.
What is the past tense of smite?
I think that Trump, look at the electoral votes in New York and New York. I think Trump, like I said- What is the past tense of SMITE? I think that Trump, look at the electoral votes in New York and New Jersey.
It is SMOTE. I was right. SMOTE.
SMOTE. No, I was right. Imagine if you were to break off those two
states. Trump wins. Which states? New Jersey and New York.
New York and New Jersey. Oh, yeah.
You break them off into the ocean, Trump wins. So like I said, I think it's the Superman won plot and Trump is Lex Luthor.
Trying to remove-
That's right.
Yeah.
New York.
So now we're talking about super weapons, which we haven't-
But you can't remove New York.
You have to remove all of New England.
Which is okay.
Yeah.
Is that Superman won or Superman returns?
No, that's one.
That's one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Returns.
Wasn't that where lex is
trying to build a new island yeah and then it would it would flood the half the united states
but that's that's the eastern half but that's not what he's oh yeah i'm referring to the lex luther
in one in one he wanted to remove a state he was going to knock california into the ocean and then
he would have all the beachfront property he knew exactly which is very Trumpian. Is that the original Superman?
That's so 70s. Was that like late 70s, early 80s?
70, 78.
He bought all the property?
That's such a sad version of Lex Luthor.
Wow. The more modern versions
are much better where he's just
moon bases and stuff.
The more modern version, he just thinks, he's kind of like
Dr. Doom. He thinks he's the only one who can
save humanity and he should be in charge. He better than you so do you think these are could have
been weapons you think these could be like geo weaponry i mean i threw out could be obviously
i threw out the chinese super weapon early on yeah we had a split decision on the panel here
and then i was like well with sort of american super weapon they did it in taiwan to make it
look like the chinese now they do it to themselves or maybe they're just getting it this isn't on
trump i mean oh trump false flagged himself with his own earthquake device to make it look like the Chinese. Now they do it to themselves or maybe they're just getting it. This isn't on Trump. I mean, oh, Trump
false flagged himself with his own earthquake device
to make himself look like the victim. There you
go. I don't know who's quaking. I mean,
who's at the center of this? Which
politician's favorite movie is The
Core? Because I believe they were using an earthquake
weapon and that caused the events of that
film. Yeah, they stopped The Core from
spinning because they were using earthquake weapons.
And then they had to go down and kickstart the core again.
What if this was Jewish people digging a tunnel too deep?
In Brooklyn.
That proves it.
With shovels.
Tunnels in Brooklyn.
Someone mentioned you yesterday, Tim, about the farmers in California having to suck the water out of like 20,000 feet down to get to the water table.
And then that caused seismic disruption. It causes the whole city to sink. Wow. Pulling the water out of like 20 000 feet down to get to the water table and then that caused seismic disruption it causes the whole city to sink wow pulling the water out of the ground
sucking i've heard about that about oil obviously fracking can do that too well it's because the
earth is flat and beneath the plane is the waters of the universe and they're pulling that out and
sinking us to the bottom of of the dome that we're in that see that that proves it i i my question
is we'll right that seriously.
Is maybe like this much concrete
is like the safest thing that you could have?
Because remember Casey Neistat stuck a camera,
like he pulled up a whole Brooklyn sidewalk
and it was just this much
just separating it from the ground.
Maybe that's enough.
That's earthquake proof right there.
I didn't hear anything about sidewalks
collapsing in New York City.
This was a pretty low one.
I think it was 4.2.
Yeah, but the concrete's like this thin.
I thought it was 4.8, right?
4.8.
Which is pretty big for the East Coast.
For the East Coast, yeah.
But there's 7.5 in Taiwan.
But they have more experience with it.
And they only lost like 10 people in that.
I mean, buildings crashed onto themselves.
Taiwan was crazy.
Like a whole apartment building fell over.
Yeah, that was wild.
It's like a movie.
They were commuting. So I guess a lot of people in those buildings were out and going to
work it was like 9 a.m over there or something crazy yeah it was it was like nine o'clock in
the morning i always think about like the if like if there were a real earthquake in new york because
there's a fault line that goes right under 23rd street that would be really bad for new york city
well there's a fault line there that's only a matter of time.
Yeah, it's dormant.
It hasn't shook in quite a while.
This was like the Ramapo fault, which was Jersey, obviously.
But New York could not withstand a proper earthquake.
No.
Well, it could be a problem.
I know Haiti didn't have seismic activity for 200 years.
And then all of a sudden that fault line, I forgot what it's called, activated.
And they had just reinforced their buildings for hurricanes wow so they were concrete and all
that and they were not earthquake proof at all so that's why so many people died in that earthquake
15 years ago which you know you know which one i'm referring to it must be the end of days
gosh i wonder i can't believe someone remembered the plot of superman returns
that was you i'm no that was you. No, I remember Superman Returns.
Oh, did you?
That was impressive.
I was, we were just talking,
I was thinking like,
God is going to say when you die,
if you die,
or when you speak with God,
it'll be like,
yeah, it was real, dude.
The whole time, I guess.
Why did it take you 48 or 500 years,
whatever long?
Why did it take you so many years to figure that out?
Why do you,
why did you live your life?
Like, just, like like you need it?
Maybe not.
I want to give this lady a special shout out from the post-millennial.
Woke New Jersey Senate candidate says earthquake is evidence the climate crisis is real.
I died when I saw this tweet.
Yo.
I experienced my first earthquake in New Jersey.
We never get earthquakes.
The climate crisis is real.
I'm sorry.
It's a cult.
Oh, it's definitely a cult.
It's definitely a cult.
It called it the climate crisis is the culty part because there's a lot of crises in our
climate at the moment.
They keep changing.
The culty part is being like the the sun is the pollution is causing earthquakes now.
Yeah, it's I did.
I went back.
I looked at every,
uh,
prediction,
whether people,
climatologists,
geologists,
whoever did,
did,
did predict things.
Terrible things are going to happen to,
uh,
the environment in some way we're going to run out of oil or we're going to run
out of natural resources or overpopulation.
And I went back to when I was born in 1966.
I found 53.
And they are 0 in 53.
Not one climate crisis, environmental crisis that these so-called experts have come up with
has ever come true.
And now they want us to believe number 54.
And you got to be crazy to believe 54.
Why would we believe?
Who would believe someone who's 0 in 53? i wouldn't believe someone who's on two are you trying to say
that you're willing to let us have earthquakes just so you cannot drive an electric vehicle
shame shame on you sir the um the climate predictions that lead to these what they
call the climate crisis of the climate the big one the predictions are made without
implementing mitigating factors i talked actually with ben
shapiro about this ben's really knowledgeable about this too um because things change so they
build a data and like if things continue as they are in 10 years we will be things don't they do
not always you learn a new technology completely like the horse poop in new york they invented
the automobile and it was completely like it was the biggest problem on earth when did greta
thunberg she was like we have three years left or something
and then she deleted the tweet.
Right.
Yeah, she had to delete it.
My view is,
that was a load off my shoulders.
I mean like,
Were you worried about it?
When she tweeted that out
and said we had like three years left,
once we finally reached that point,
I was just relieved.
So I'm like,
now it doesn't matter anymore.
Exactly.
I'm chill.
We're done.
It's over.
And they never say that.
They never say that.
It's like a meteor is right there in the sky about to hit us and take nothing we can do about it so
i'm ready to party dude what i always think about when you know people freak out about the climate
and they're like we have to do this and we have to change this about our lives and our our culture
and our whole civilization to appease the weather gods so that they don't kill us it just seems so
ancient you know it's like what we do what we do matters so much for the weather.
We must change everything we do to appease the gods of the weather.
And that's what they were doing in the Middle Ages.
How many tipping points or point of no returns have we passed by
and they just like move the goalposts?
That's right.
I feel like I'm crazy sometimes.
Like maybe it is a Mandela effect.
I'm like, didn't we hit this when I was like 15 years old?
And people freak out.
Like the kids are all freaking out.
They're like, oh, I can't have children or a normal life
because of the climate extinction rebellion.
When I was in grade school, when I was probably like 10,
they, we had in class,
they told us that we would run out of oil by like 2010.
Cause this was, this was the mid nineties.
They were like, oil is expected to run out at this point.
And so we're getting worried about it.
And I was like,
whoa.
And then like,
here I am.
Mitigating circumstance.
They found new oil.
And then they wonder
why you're a neurotic.
Or they figured out
how to use less oil
in a combustive process.
It's like the end of days syndrome.
We just,
humans always just want to believe
that we're at the absolute pinnacle
of the end times.
It's also,
the way we measure like resources
is whether or not it is,
like an oil reserve is whether or not it's financially viable to tap it but the thing is is if you run out of
the cheap easy oil to tap or it reduces then expensive oil like canadian tar sands or like
venezuela has tar sands oil that becomes more economically viable so that goes into the reserves
so you can look at a map of like the countries with the
greatest oil reserves and you'll see like randomly in like the 2010s when gas prices went up under
Bush, Canada and Venezuela go to number one and number three on the list. And you're like,
they didn't just find that oil. They always had it. It just was not the technology didn't exist.
It was not viable. So to your point about how it doesn't measure like the change, it just says, if we continue
at this rate and we have this much, this is why all those Malthusian economic predictions
never come true.
They're like, we have this many people, this much food is being grown.
It's like, yeah, but when there's more people, we think of, we try to make new strains.
We'll be able to start making oil in laboratories.
Like they're doing blue crude.
We've already made that.
Yeah.
Like when you start,
especially once you start 3d printing atomically into molecules,
dude,
we don't need to find more.
It's not about drilling anymore. It's really about what we're doing with the waste by-product of the
burning of it.
And that's turning it into carbon dioxide,
graphene.
And the solution is always leftism.
The solution is always socialism.
It's always more government,
less freedom.
They never come up,
you know, like if we found out that earthquakes were caused because there wasn't enough carbon in the air, they would never tell us that.
If that's what we figured out, because no, we can't have more carbon in the air because then you'll enjoy your air conditioning.
No, no, no.
But they would.
But then they would just make a reason why that means we need communism.
Yeah.
Or they would do that or they would hide it.
They'd be like, oh, well, because of that, we have to put carbon. would do that or they would be like oh well
because of that we have to put carbon everyone has to have a carbon vehicle so you need to sign
up for this government program right everybody here's here's everybody we're going to central
everybody has to have air conditioning everybody has to have a gas grill yeah that's what they
would that means all of the newcomers that are coming in and staying at these shelters are going
to need their own air conditioners and cars as well because it's a mandate to prevent the the
catastrophe with earthquakes yeah it's always that's always the solution it's never more freedom
it's never just leave me the hell alone you can turn it into graphene the carbon which is this
black powder it's just pure carbon hexagonal lattice carbon i don't have a diagram next to me
but um pure carbon reusable put it in building materials make electronics out of it and stuff
but the problem is if private companies start doing that we might take too much out of the air
and then we'll start killing off the plant life.
So we might need not a communist mandate, some sort of central mandate to make sure that we don't as a species eradicate our air supply.
We won't.
We'll just burn gas.
Create just overcharge our production.
If there are news reports being like too much carbon is being taken out of the air, people are like, I guess I'll drive more.
Hell yeah, dude.
Turn up the air conditioning.
It enhances so much of our society.
Carbon.
Our carbon-based love.
What trees are made of.
And then the people that tell us that the oceans are going to rise, they move to the coast.
That's my favorite one.
That's Obama. rise they move to the coast that's my favorite one that's you know uh obama have you ever seen
that video where the guy says i can i can debunk climate change right now very easily the banks
banks are giving mortgages on on real estate miami beach right he's like if that if it were real
all these banks would be legally required to have this like a red notice bold like this property
will be inviolable in 30 years your investment will be zero and this loan will be dead yeah but they don't have to do that but what
what if al gore's buying beachfront property just to be the first to say i told you so it's not
it's not hypocrisy what am i living the reason they're coming out and saying beachfront property
is worthless it's going to be underwater is to drop the prices and buy it up then they can get
cheap property just like lex luther that's kind of the lex luther thing yeah that's exactly it
yeah wow that proves it that may be what trump's up to because the property in miami beach was
shockingly cheap i mean it's relatively cheap these six 60 floor penthouses condos are like
three thousand dollars a month to rent to rent three i thought they're gonna be six thousand
i've but it's cheap i've played civilization i know what happens you build water barriers they
build sea barriers they build
sea barriers that's exactly right when you're when so in so this is funny because the game
civilization has climate change where the water's water levels rise and stuff and uh you you can
build sea barriers around your cities that's all you gotta do that's it and then cnn is telling us
that that the that the oceans are going to rise and what do they do they leave atlanta
where they'd be safe and they move right to the edge of the water in New York.
Or what you can do is do what Chicago did
and just raise the whole city up.
Yep.
How do they do it?
They just built, like, it's crazy.
When you go to Lower Wacker,
it's all steel beams and pillars.
But when you're on the upper level,
it's just like you think you're on a street.
Oh, I know.
Okay.
So it's crazy because like you go to New York and you like walk down the street.
That has asphalt over gravel on dirt and bedrock and stuff.
You go to Chicago and you're walking on the sidewalk and underneath you, you are walking on a bridge.
And the whole city, like the whole, not the whole city, but this whole portion of the city.
It's crazy.
Well, in New York, underneath New York, in a lot of places, there's more New York.
There's like buildings underground.
They're not in use.
Oh, yeah.
There's like abandoned railroad tracks with ghosts.
There's all kinds of crazy stuff down there.
Plus, if the planet warms, if that's true, that'll save lives.
We'll have more food.
More people die from the cold and the heat, and we figure it out.
And then there's a solution to the Israel thing.
When Antarctica melts, maybe all the Jews can move there.
There you go.
Wow.
Look, we've just solved all the problems.
Okay.
Climate change is saving us.
Thank you for making peace in the Middle East.
Making peace in the Middle East.
I didn't believe in climate change before, but now I'm pro climate change.
We're watching it change before our eyes.
Subtly, slowly, but it's changing always.
But you can always rest assured
that some crackpot leftists will have no idea what they're talking about and just say these things
but uh okay also why does it say from earth on her tweet yeah i don't know she's clever she's cute
but it's because she's not on earth and she like set her location she's on mars did she get
community noted i can't see that did they know yes i think it's
not here in the image but yeah it says new jersey says new jersey sits on a fault line has nothing
to do with climate change i love community notes i think the earth is like i'm a citizen of the
world just so you know like she decided to go with that location it was a specific choice she's
precious yeah the final point about climate change i'll make is that you know they'll talk they never talk about adaptation like we adapt to everything all different kind of
circumstances and they're actually people who are like oh adapting to it is like accepting the
problem and you're never going to change but it's like okay but you told me manhattan's going to be
underwater like building a barrier to save one of the economic epicenters of the world seems like
way smarter than relocating one of the economic epicenters of the world seems like way smarter than relocating
one of the economic epicenters of the world.
Like how much does it cost to build a sea barrier
versus moving Manhattan?
Plus you'd have to go to war with China
to get them to comply there.
I mean, there's nothing we can do
is going to change with China.
My friends, none of this matters.
The eclipse is coming.
And Rolling Stone says,
the far right is crawling
with eclipse conspiracy theories everyone has lost their gd mines and then they say blah blah blah
blah blah what are the conspiracies what are they what is it do they even have any conspiracies here
mbc is bringing back heroes again and this is all this is look at all this patter there's nothing
even this article this is stupid they even okay well i this patter. There's nothing in this article. This is stupid. Okay, well, I'm going to give it to USA Today
who actually showed us the conspiracies.
Debunking misinformation conspiracy
sparked by 2024 solar eclipse.
All right, you ready for this one?
First, CERN will start up April 8th
to open a portal during the eclipse.
False.
No, no.
I've not heard anyone claim they want to open a portal.
This is what they do. What natural byproduct of CERN.
This is what they do.
What is true is that CERN is going to be operating the Large Engine Collider on April 8th.
The post is wrong about both the timing and the nature of CERN's work.
CERN's equipment began operating in March, a month before the eclipse,
and the technology is nowhere near strong enough to open a portal or a black hole.
They don't know that.
That's wrong.
That's wrong.
As far as they know.
CERN has, I'm pretty sure, okay, I got a fact to this one,
but I'm pretty sure CERN's fact of this one but i'm pretty sure
cern's been able to make black holes that was the plot of superman returns wasn't it building black
holes they should be doing this in magnetic confinement okay i'm wrong yeah they can't make
them i thought they could but uh uh okay all right we'll give them that one but the what people have
been pointing out is that cern is operating on apr 8th. What they do is they add this nonsense to open a portal so they can call it false.
Here we go.
Right.
April.
It's also, hold on.
They're like, they started operating in March.
It's like, well, these are like some of the smartest people in the world.
You think they don't know what eclipse schedule?
Like that is not, that does not address the point.
I can tell you.
There's not even eclipse over CERN.
Yeah.
Okay.
Here we go.
April 8th solar eclipse will cause three to five days of darkness false who claimed that okay whatever now here's what i love this
because i saw this and i was like wait wait how do they say this is false it says nasa is launching
three rockets at three moons during the eclipse false nasa is launching three rockets to study
the eclipse but not at three moons because we only have one who said we had three i think they make these things up do they say where the claim came from do they link to
like even some errant tweets somewhere or are they launching maybe phobos and what is this
three rockets what is this who said it i mean it's easy a march 30th facebook video
shows a man talking about nasa's plants they grab some random yokel on Facebook and they're like, better run this one.
Creating this far right category thing.
Eclipse crosses seven cities named Nineveh and crosses 2017 eclipse path in Little Egypt.
They say it's partly false.
There's two, two Ninevehs, not seven.
I heard that one, but that's not a conspiracy theory in any way.
Is that what they're saying?
Is these are conspiracy theories?
Here we go.
Wrong information.
A bird man was seen days before the eclipse.
The photo of a silhouette in the sky has circulated online since November.
Wow, that's good.
Three rockets being launched by NASA are part of a sex magic ritual.
Wow.
That I believe.
You know that for sure.
Yeah, it makes sense.
Well, they named the rockets APAP.
Did you know that?
They named it what?
They named the rockets the APAP rockets.
APAP is the Egyptian god who chases the sun and defeats it every day.
Oh, defeats it. Oh, I see.
Yeah, like, I don't know.
Like, Mouse was saying, Michael Mouse was saying that he eats it.
I don't know that he eats it.
Yeah, it's like a snake that eats the end of his tail every day or something.
He battles Ra and defeats Ra every day.
And then Ra strikes back in the morning.
Wow.
That's just.
Yeah, no joke.
These guys are into the occult for sure.
If they're naming the rockets after Egyptian gods.
Yeah, that's definitely occultish behavior.
Definitely.
And I say the occult, but there's more than one occult.
There's a lot of occultish, you know, thoughts.
The occult eye.
And you can't have occult without it.
You can't have occult without it.
That one on the bottom is the best one.
Which one?
Right there.
The last one
claims sun and moon will not be aligned for 2024 eclipse rating false they will yeah so i guess we had an annular eclipse which is where um the moon is further away from the sun so
it from the earth so it doesn't cover the sun completely and then you know you can actually
see the sun and then we're having now is a total eclipse where the moon is close to the earth so it doesn't cover the sun completely and then you can actually see the sun. And then we're having now as a total eclipse
where the moon is close to the sun so it looks bigger and it's
going to block the whole thing. That's pretty cool.
Yeah, it's going to be cool. I guess we should do something for it.
What people misunderstand is that
what they're wrong about with CERN
is that CERN's not firing
up to open a portal during the
eclipse. The issue is that when the sun and the
moon align, it creates a portal.
CERN is firing up
to create a a force field to protect the earth from the demon hordes that come now you're talking
that's true that's right that's true why didn't usa today someone wants to be in usa today i think
these these suns these stars can are like magnifying lenses for energy that can come at you
right through them and it accelerates it.
When I think about super acceleration through the universe
through warp drive or things like that.
I picture aiming at a black hole,
hitting it as fast as you can
right through the center. It's a charged black hole
and then it spits you out the other side at light speed.
And then as soon as you get close to a sun
or some other magnetic thing, it slows you down
and you come back to normal space.
So I don't know if
that's going to, if there's something going on here with
magic and magnetics and energy. That proves
it. Because they're firing rockets
that measure disturbance in atmosphere
on a time when the moon is blocking the sun.
So there's a reason they want to test the disturbance
when the sun is blocked out magnetically
or whatever kind of disturbances they're looking for.
I just want to see Trump stare at the eclipse
again. Yeah, that's a good one.
That's the funny thing,
because they loved attacking him for it.
He glanced at it briefly.
I know.
And they're like,
he looked at it.
He looked at it, everybody.
He's so dumb.
It's like, dude, you can't.
That's what normal people would do.
Everybody does that.
But that's not,
the issue is that people stare at the eclipse.
Not that you look up for a second and go,
oh, look, there's an eclipse.
Yeah.
You know, not on the list of theories
is that the Earth Kingdom's going to invade the Fire nation on that day that's true yeah also ian
stares at the sun yeah gaze rather i'd like to say instead of stare but what you do is called
sun gazing it's an ancient thousand year old definitely do not listen to him do not do this
well listen i'm not telling you to do it just listen it's on tim katz irl is not a medical show
through the ages they've done this practice called sun gazing, where when the sun is very low to the horizon in the morning or in the evening, you let it in and it hits the back of your eye and it kind of stretches and builds the muscles in your eye.
And as long as you're not focusing your eyes right on the really hot burning thing, you're not going to burn it.
You kind of like let it.
You don't really even necessarily look at it.
You let the sun into the back of your eye and wash over the retina.
I found that it melts away the floaty things.
You ever get those things that float in your eye floaters they melt away when you sun gaze
at least i found they melted mine away and also my vision got better when i was away from the
computer gazing at the sun because it was like lasik he was looking around the sun he was singeing
the ring of quis cornea you might want to repeat yeah i gotta go, it was wild. Nuts. Sungazing is the practice of looking directly at the sun.
It is the unsafe practice.
That's what it says.
It's like raw milk.
Of looking directly at the sun.
Oh, sure.
It's like the raw milk of healing yourself.
It's done as a spiritual or religious practice,
most often dawn or dusk.
The human eye is very sensitive,
and exposure to direct sunlight can lead to solar retinopathy.
How do you pronounce this? Pterygium, cataracts, and exposure to direct sunlight can lead to solar retinopathy. How do you pronounce this?
Pterygium, cataracts, and potentially blindness.
Studies have shown that even when viewing a solar eclipse, the eye can still be exposed
to harmful levels of ultraviolet radiation.
Sungazing is a lot like playing with fire.
I would not recommend that somebody just go do it.
Like, if you focus your eye...
Don't try this at home.
What's that?
Don't try this at home.
No, no, no.
Talk to a doctor.
But it is an ancient practice.
I'll tell you not to do it.
And if you focus your eye on the sun, man, rock your do not do that you do not focus your eye on
it like that is when you lose don't stare at the sun ever for any reason it's not the gaze that's
why they call it gazing instead of staring because you're really not focused on the sun you're
focused in the direction of it letting the light hit the back of your eye there's also people that
they do what do they call it butt sunning or whatever oh yeah sun balling or something
what is they they get naked and then you hold your legs up in the air so the sun can hit your
crack because they're like it's the one part of the body that never gets sun you know i'm 58 years
old i've had hbo for 40 years i never heard any of this stuff it's just amazing yeah there's like
people on instagram and they have pictures where it's like a guy and a woman and they'll be naked
like you won't see anything and they'll be naked.
Like you won't see anything,
but you'll see the people with the sun in the horizon and they're spreading their legs open.
And they do that thing where they have the lasers.
You know what I'm talking about?
People put the red light on their balls or whatever.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Oh yeah, I have heard that.
Also icing your balls apparently.
It's called the perineum sunning.
Don't do that red light thing if you have a cat.
Luke Rutkowski was telling me about icing your balls luke was saying about icing your last week he was telling me about it it's like apparently
it's great for you people do it if you can do it right and you do it you know it can help
semen production i don't i don't even think like i've been looking into the ice bath stuff i don't
think i'm gonna do it it sounds like it's stupid it does seem kind of dumb yeah i'm not doing that
well it inhibits protein synthesis.
Yeah, I'm not doing that.
And they're like, what does it do?
Okay, so it basically causes all your blood vessels to constrict, squeeze out lactic acid,
and it reduces your recovery time while stopping the recovery process.
And I'm like, okay.
So your recovery time ends because you stop recovering.
You jump in ice.
Your body stops healing.
What was the point of working out in the first place?
What's the plus?
I don't know. Yeah, you want to do it was the point of working out in the first place? What's the plus? Yeah. I don't know.
Yeah, you wanna do it when you're not working out.
If you wanna build muscle, don't do it
cause it'll inhibit muscle growth.
But why do it at all if you're not working out?
What's the point?
I think because it sends your body
into a shock protein state
where it starts to go into like your immune system kicks on
and it starts cleaning up the body.
Shock proteins, check those out.
And Rhonda Patrick does a lot on shock proteins
and temperatures and fasting.
Fasting has a similar result of shock protein synthesis,
I think is the case.
But Rhonda Patrick's the doctor to listen to on that.
Wouldn't you rather just watch TV than jump in the-
It's really good.
Well, there's the ice bath I've never done.
There's the cold plunge I've done.
Those are great. Those, I actually actually craved like it was a food i've never in my life this
has never happened before i wanted to eat it the next day i that cold plunge affected my body so
much the next day i was hungry for it my stomach wanted it what was the food a cold plunge oh
a wild feeling what yeah my body was literally i was having hunger cravings for the cold plunge
really yeah wow but is that a good thing i think so it felt like a man let's get another meal let's
go yeah ian skipped all of his workouts this week no i worked out today by myself for about 25
minutes well he skipped the three training sessions yeah but i did get my license or started
to my driver's license i have no you drive again putting that off for a while yeah i know a lot of
people who can't drive for some reason.
I just, COVID freaked me out.
I didn't want to go in there with my mask and sit around and wait.
And my license had expired.
So I was just like, I work from home.
I Uber everywhere.
It was relatively convenient.
I would get rides, but it was a burden.
It became a burden.
You couldn't update online because of the COVID thing?
Yeah, that's what I did, I'm pretty sure.
No, it was stolen in South America like five years ago.
And it just lapped so long that I had to go get it take the test again i took the test tell you about that
that was wild i i updated mine online during covid and i was supposed to retake a picture
but i didn't have to so i have like 17 year old me on my driver's license yeah you should see mine
my hair's all brown it's still there because i had a i got my like non-driver's id and they
took a picture of that and then i used, and I got a learner's permit.
And I had the learner's permit for 10 years before I got my license.
And I got my license on literally the last-
Which means you got it twice, because it's five years.
No, I never had a license before that.
No, I meant the permit.
You have to get it twice, so you renewed it.
No, they gave it to me for nine years.
Oh.
Yeah.
Oh, here?
No, in New York.
Because my brother had it.
He knew it.
Same deal.
But I got it on the very last day that it was possible, which was my 45th birthday.
I think Arizona is like 50 years.
Your license is a good four.
Really?
That's nice.
That's some insane amount of time.
Don't they want to update your picture?
Because, I mean, you're going to look a lot different at 70 than 20.
I don't know, man.
Maybe it's...
I could have sworn someone showed me an Arizonarizona id that's awesome i'm my my my first um what's the passport id i look like this hippie
dude i didn't care about and i was just like full flow they expire on your 65th birthday and then
as the years went on my pictures became more and more sad like you can see the pain of reality
kicking in but you do need to update your photo every 12 years and the license doesn't expire until you're 65.
Wow.
Well, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
That's crazy.
It's going to be
my first real ID.
Do you know what kind
of tracking mechanisms
these things have?
Isn't it like biometric data
or something like that?
I don't know.
They're probably just RFID.
I think the main point
of RFID,
of real ID
was so that there was
one national database
for all IDs
from all states.
Basically stripping you of your sovereignty and destroying states rights and making it so i
don't have to spend nine days getting people to mail things to that guy to that guy to that guy
every time i move states which will be the upside and then the best part is in 50 years they're
gonna do the same thing with nato and then you're gonna have to get your updated nato real id
so that we can have one database between france the uk new york illinois we got to call
something other than nato though i'm down with a one world government as long as it doesn't have
much strength like if we have the state's rights still but there's like a central authority that's
like weak yeah but like i was watching this watching this commercial and there's this lady
singing about taking some drug for her a1c or something what is a1c i don't know but my
girlfriend was like i hate this commercial and i1C? I don't know, but my girlfriend was like, I hate this commercial.
And I was like,
see, now don't you understand Bill Gates?
He's sitting here watching
these Osempic commercials
and he's just thinking to himself,
like, they all must go.
I'm like, wow, you know,
I can't blame him.
I saw the same commercial.
Logan's are on.
Yeah, Logan's are on.
I was thinking,
I actually mentioned this,
the suicide pods in Canada,
this maid program and things.
And I'm like,
we were joking,
we were kind of talking about like,
well, what's he going to do?
And I was like, well, it'll also lower the chance of them having a revolution because a lot of those angry young men that normally go to war end up going to the
pod and yeah what's going to happen is they're going to they're going to they're going to capture
some young rebellious man and then they're going to come out and be like unfortunately he opted for
the suicide booth exactly well i'm thinking more less than fair is that instead of becoming
rebellious they'll just become depressed and suicidal.
Society will point them in that direction
because they don't want them to become enraged.
They know it's bad.
They're just like,
I'll just cut their balls off.
It's kind of happening in this country
with the drugs.
You know, you have a lot of people,
it may not be a suicide,
but suicides are way up.
Drug deaths are way up.
And it's all sort of this cultural attack
on the working people. Yeah, it of this cultural attack on the working people.
Yeah, it is a cultural attack on the working people.
And they're just being replaced with cheap immigrants.
Yeah, and you hear stories too where I live about people, they have pride.
Things aren't going well.
And then the government will come in and say, no, you got to get these food stamps.
You got to get the welfare.
You got to put fluoride in your drinking water.
This is what's best for you.
This is what's best for you.
And then you create a dependent class out of it.
We don't have fluoride in our drinking water.
It's some of the best drinking water.
It just comes straight out of the ground.
I've ever had in my life.
And it's a-
The well water.
We have two nine stage filters.
We have a basic one and then we have one for the sink.
So it goes through twice.
The last one adds minerals back into it because you don't want to have the stripped water whatever but uh yeah no fluoride we take we add
potassium i think you need potassium if you get if you get well water you need to add that because
otherwise you won't have potassium you can't just eat a bunch of bananas you can eat a bunch of
bananas too if you want to do that there is an amount of bananas you can eat that will give you
radiation poisoning oh no, no way.
But you will die from eating the bananas
before you get radiation poisoning.
How many?
I love bananas.
Roughly how many?
Is it like a thousand or?
It's probably some absurd number.
I'm a big,
I eat way too much fruit.
You ever hear the story about the guy,
you ever hear the story about the guy
who died from eating too many red lobster biscuits?
Gross, gross.
Apparently, it's like an urban legend.
I don't know if it's true,
but he was like sitting,
he was waiting for a friend
or something
and so they gave him
a thing of biscuits
the cheddar biscuits
and he ate them
and he just annihilated
the whole basket
and then they were like
they're endless
so he's like
I'll get another one
and then someone said
like man
you could break the record
and then he was like
I could break the record
and then he died
wow
from eating too many biscuits
I don't know if anyone's
going to get this reference
but did they offer him
a very thin mint
I vaguely get it Monty Python meeting the light the guy explodes at the end I don't know if anyone's going to get this reference, but did they offer him a very thin mint?
I vaguely get it.
Monty Python, Meaning of Life.
The guy explodes at the end.
I thought that wasn't funny.
I hate being old.
I vaguely remember.
The thin mint was the last thing.
Just a thin mint, sir.
And then he just explodes.
It's probably getting old.
I don't know the new references, and nobody knows mine.
I saw the Monty Python Quest for the Holy Grail.
One of my favorite movies of all time.
It's so good.
But then I saw Life of Brian
and the one you just mentioned.
Meaning of Life.
Meaning of Life.
And I didn't laugh much at all.
You didn't laugh at Life of Brian?
Well, I tried to watch it
and I stopped.
Oh my gosh.
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Nyan Cat says,
Hello, world.
Hello, Nyan Cat.
I remember you.
That was fun.
Who's Nyan Cat?
What?
Nyan Cat.
You don't know Nyan Cat?
No.
You know the Nyan Cat.
Oh, now I know who you're talking about.
The rainbow,
the rainbow pixelated cat.
The Pop-Tart.
Yeah. The Pop-Tart Cat. I think I might know what you're talking about now The rainbow pixelated cat. The Pop-Tart. Yeah.
The Pop-Tart cat.
I think I might know what you're talking about now.
That's a reference I'm too old for.
All right.
Barely a Millennial says, woke up on Easter to the voice of God in my head saying, if
you smoke one more cigarette, you'll get lung cancer.
Stop now.
It was pretty scary, and I haven't had one since.
Oh, well done.
Demons don't give up that easy, though, constantly nudging.
Well done, though.
Absolutely.
And don't give up that easy though constantly nudging well done though absolutely and don't give in to the demons they're going to be clawing at you and screaming
in your face but do not give in
do that you can do it
awesome should celebrate with a cigar
oh my goodness don't listen
to me over here it changes your DNA
T-Bomb says I have the
one they call Clint Torres health captive
submit to my demands if you
want to hear howdy people again,
boobies.
Okay.
They didn't give us any demands.
There's no demand there.
Yeah.
I demand you supply me a demand.
Okay.
Someone's making fun of Lizzo and a salty bag of nuts says my wife is a vet.
She is very informed about bird flu and is very worried.
If any animal tests positive,
they are put down as well as all animals on the property how do you think this will affect farms yeah they're gonna
you're gonna eat the bugs and you'll be happy this happened so here's chickens recently that's
why i like texas or something yeah okay here's what you do all right here's what you do all right
if you want people to eat the bugs and be happy first you take the beef the chicken the lamb all of it away okay then you say always got
his bugs and they're upset but then you take the bugs away let them starve for a little bit then
they'll eat mud then you give them the bugs back and they'll thank you and they're grateful yeah
then you're just grateful say thank you sir we are thankful for the bugs they will be happy
juan castle says tim enough of the shenanigans.
Bring on the Donald.
Yes, perhaps.
Episode 1000 is coming up, guys.
Yeah.
That would be cool.
Eclipse Day is episode 999.
Oh, wild.
Don's the guy who'd be like,
for episode 1000, I'll do it.
Completely arbitrary.
I love it.
But it means something all right the last
campaign says did you hear about the tarrant county central appraisal district in texas getting
hacked the website has been down for weeks and they are apparently holding homeowners information
ransom 700k i did not know that dj bell says, as a born and raised Californian,
a 4.8 isn't even worth talking about.
Yeah, I was in something comparable in Virginia.
We were sitting in my friend's living room
and there was a cup on the coffee table
and we saw the rings in it.
And then we were like,
is there an earthquake?
And then we were like, I don't know.
And then we went on the internet and looked. They're like, oh yeah, look at that. There's an earthquake. I was at were like, I don't know. And then we went on the internet and looked like,
Oh yeah,
look at that.
There's an earthquake.
Oh,
I was at this one in LA,
this earthquake.
I was sitting in a restaurant and it started to shake.
And I was like really in like a spiritual,
like God mode.
And it was like,
just pray with the earth.
And I stayed really calm and breathe and then slowed down and stopped.
I was like,
maybe I was in part of that or not.
I don't know,
but I didn't panic.
I lived in East LA.
I lived in East LA for about nine years. And we didn't know if it was an of that or not. I don't know, but I didn't panic. I lived in East L.A. for about nine years,
and we didn't know if it was an earthquake or a helicopter.
Sometimes it's just a little helicopter looking for the crypts and the bloods.
But after a while, he just got used to it.
He just turned up the TV.
The biggest plot twist in Tim's story is it wasn't an earthquake.
It was actually a T-Rex.
From the past.
The story was pretty crazy. was at jurassic park you know
he was the he was the the scientist he was that kid so uh justin partos has first time chatting
a bit of self congratulations for my kids clothing line psyched kids clothing just got approved on
public square i post new designs every three weeks come check check it out. Love you, Ian. Oh, that's awesome, dude. What's the store called?
Psyched Kids Clothing.
Nice.
So Taylor Silverman brought this up to me, and we are massively winning the culture war.
I just got to tell you.
Something called AWH, Skateboard Distribution, is on Public Square, and I was really surprised
to find out.
One of the largest distributors of skateboard equipment boards etc so this is like
a massive chunk of the skate industry being on public square is it that's huge and then this is
really really amazing as well let me see if i can pull this one up to see if i can find this
i can't believe this flip skateboards is on uh public square one of the biggest and most notable skate companies
in the world is on Public Square.
Yo, we're winning like crazy. Guys, sign up
for Public Square. Download the Public Square app.
That's amazing.
Yeah, basically, if you don't like
that Bezos does what
Bezos does and Amazon does what they're doing,
Public Square
is this
alternate marketplace, and i hope that public square
becomes the new amazon where you got to believe in american values and and before you can uh
you know so you sell yeah yeah yeah you don't want any of that weird you know the issue for
the issue uh with it for me is most of these companies don't know or care they're simply
saying what's what's the trending thing tell me what to say and i'll say it i don't know or care they're simply saying what's what's the trending thing
tell me what to say and i'll say it i don't want those weak spineless that we spineless garbage
right you go to public square these companies are like no i believe in america i believe in
family i believe in my values and i'm like okay i respect that they're they're saying before they
even sell you the product they know what they believe in why they do what they do these other
companies are just like look man i don't know i don't care i'll just say whatever i have to say
and i'm like yeah you're spineless can other companies anybody sign up for public square
any company there's a thing that says like you by signing up you agree with these things and says
like i i support the family i support the first amendment rights that's awesome it's great i love
it is there a way you can get kicked out is there something they can do there's probably terms i
would think but i don't have the answer but yeah i would imagine would imagine. If not, that's a big problem. Yeah.
Because then you should reserve the right.
Then you just have to sound sincere.
That's crazy.
But I'll give a shout out to Reliance Skateboards.
They're on Public Square as well.
And who else is on here?
There's a lot more stuff on here than the last time I checked it out.
It's cool.
I know.
It's so awesome seeing Public Square grow.
And you'll start seeing companies like disney on there that's
when you know you've won because they'll just say yes on the i fully agree with the united states
and eat those united states and they'll say yes anyway just to make money yeah and then they're
starting to agree and and meme into the the new way if they they just need to be kicked out if
they if they sign because they're lying big dis no let them lie yeah let them lie and then if they violate those
those those like clear if they do these things and you can say like hey you lied but i'm like
we get to the point where people who are not political are just like oh yeah sure i like trump
that means we're winning that's true they believe history is on the side of we're on the right side
of history i think this from public square let me just tell you guys you don't know anything
about skate point other than awh distribution is one of the largest so the way it works is we're on the right side of history. I think this from Public Square, let me just tell you guys, you don't gotta know anything about Skateboarding
other than AWH distribution is one of the largest.
So the way it works is like skate shops
have distributors who collect all of the gear,
boards, clothes, all this stuff.
And then they order directly from a warehouse.
This is one of the biggest.
So, and Flip Skateboards, Jeff Rowley, Tom Penny,
who else is, I haven't followed their team in a long time
but these are jeff rallies in the tony hawk video game series so this is as popular and
mainstream olympic level stuff as you can get and this means that they're publicly when you go on
when your company's on public square you're making a public statement about your politics
that is epic shout out to flip shout out to awh people a bunch of uh pro skateboarders have been
complaining skateboarding's woke and it's weak and like i think skateboarding should not be weak
yeah it's sort of a tough it's one of those grinding sports you can do you know i i think
skate skateboarders are the lowest tier professional athletes and the reason for it is they don't take
care of themselves they drink they smoke they do drugs uh they don't like they don't act like athletes like you look at gymnasts and it's like they've
got personal trainers and the trainers being like today you're gonna do you know calf stretches and
then you're gonna do squats because that's gonna improve when you do this skateboarders are like
i woke up at 3 p.m pulled a burrito out of the fridge at five we're gonna go skate with the guys i'm gonna bring some
beers they act like artists yeah yeah yeah yeah true yep andrea viola says tim i was gifted the
line of casper as coffee and i was gifted the line of casper as coffee is my thing and i am
somewhat a coffee snob it is absolutely fantastic bravo my new fave thank
you very much i gotta say like they're good like uh rise with roberto jr was first my favorite
and then appalachian nights is the only thing i want to drink i don't know why it's so good
it's my favorite one it's crazy how good appalachian nights it's and this is not even an
opinion we we struggle to keep it in stock it wasn't even the one that we were promoting the
when we launched we were promoting the the when we
launched we were like rise with roberto jr breakfast blend will be our signature like
that's why we put the rooster on it and then appalachian nights like well we just need like
i was like i personally like a good dark roast as long as it's not burned or anything and then
when you look at the website the reason the first one that appears everywhere is because the highest
selling and it's always selling out it could be because it's starts with an a so it's at the top
alphabetically also it's the best brand it's the best title the appalachian knights is so
awesome yeah it's a good yeah it's a good it's a good name there you go very good we we hit that
one out of the park uh it's the only one i would drink i like i go we go anywhere i'm like this
coffee sucks like once what i i i forgive me because it is a curse when you buy this yeah
you taste it it is so delicious.
You'll never want to drink anything else again.
I've not, cause I was a huge pumpkin spice fan, but now I'm, I'm ready to kind of put that down.
I had coffee here this morning.
I don't know what it was, but I drank it black and I usually drink it with milk and sugar.
I'm assuming it's your brand at your, your, your place.
It probably was Appalachian nights.
Stand your grounds, a medium roast.
And it's, and it's supposed to have like the same flavor profile.
So it's supposed to be very similar,
but it'll be a little higher caffeine and medium.
But yeah, I don't know, man.
Like you go to the website and it's always sold out.
And so we told our distributor, just like, just do it.
Just make whatever.
We can't keep it in stock.
The bag really looks like what it looks like
out there at night.
It's wild.
Like we're in Appalachian, you know?
That's right.
Like you see those, the mountains are a little darker
than the dark sky behind them.
Or is it the sky that's darker?
I can't tell.
The mountains are beautiful.
Moving out here from Jersey
and I look out my window
and I see mountains.
Yeah, the mountains are gorgeous.
Salt Lake City is better.
You guys ever been to Salt Lake City?
I've never been to Utah.
Oh man, real mountains.
I've been to the Rockies.
I mean, I've spent a bunch of time in Colorado.
That's cool.
But we got good mountains up here. They're just covered in trees, you know? Well, they're old mountains. I've been to the Rockies. I mean, I've spent a bunch of time in Colorado. That's cool. But we got good mountains up here.
They're just covered in trees, you know?
Well, they're old mountains.
That's why they're soft and a little rounder.
You know, they've been out here for a lot longer than the Rockies.
They were spared from the flood.
Yeah, and they've been tamped down.
I heard someone describe the mountains in Utah that a panther set its paw down.
Oh, Salt Lake. What happened was the flood. i think this is what happened 11 800 years ago this younger driest
period the comets hit north american glacier in addition to a bunch of other things but there's
a global flood crushed north america created the grand it looks like created the grand you can see
all the striation marks when you zoom out on the map and watch over there's where it started that's
the erosion and it dumps all this salt into's the erosion. And it dumps all this salt
into Salt Lake.
Right there.
It just dumps all this salt.
It hits this basin
and leaves this salt basin
behind it.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Alan Cardinal says,
Tim and Ian,
can you wish Jill,
my mother,
happy birthday?
She's your biggest fan.
Happy birthday, Jill.
Happy birthday, Jill.
Thanks for watching the show.
Big day.
Happy birthday.
Purple says,
people are acting like
there isn't one innocent person in Gaza.
Well, that's an interesting conundrum.
That's like Sodom and Gomorrah.
If there's one righteous person in Gaza,
then they must spare it.
Well, actually,
God, you know,
they had the whole negotiation.
Right.
And God was like,
you know,
they got him down to 10.
And it's like, yeah,
if there's 10 good men.
Got him to one.
Yeah, but there was one and the angels went
and they hung out with Lot, right?
They pulled the good people from the city.
And they took the one guy out.
They were like, we won't spare the city for one guy.
We'll spare the guy, but not the city.
Oh, right, right, right, right, right.
So they did not spare the city for one guy.
So if you can go in and get those righteous people out,
I suppose biblically, then it's fine?
Is that what the argument is? No, it's just, no no it's just if if there's less than 10 ah biblically there are innocent people but
there's of course many more of course there are yeah i'm just going with the story israel is
probably doing more than any country in history to try and protect them so banana watch super
chatted i think one two three four five six seven eight nine ten israel funded israel funded hamas Try and protect them. So Banana Watch superchatted, I think, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
Israel funded Hamas.
Israel funded Hamas.
Long term.
Wait a minute.
Say that again.
Long range missile.
Okay, so Banana Watch said in numerous superchats,
Israel funded Hamas.
Israel funded Hamas.
That I was told by Scott Horton.
I don't know if it's true or not.
But I heard that they built it to counter oppose the PLO to make the two state solution more challenging for them.
And then they had like two enemies that hated each other.
Could be wrong.
I don't know.
I've heard this, but I've seen destiny go over this, you know, on his Wikipedia.
He's been criticized for.
And essentially some some people are arguing that what, that's the government over there. And Israel has to transfer aid.
And they stopped transferring it through the PLO, who would just transfer it to this other body.
And, like, money would go missing out on the way.
But, like, I don't know.
Like, that's the more defensible explanation that I've heard.
Well, we, you know, maybe it's like what we did with Iran and Iraq.
You know, kept them at each other's throats, too.
It's just what we did with Iran and Iraq. Kept them at each other's throats too. It's just geopolitics.
Devin Porter says,
Tim, I'd love to help draw the coffee shops
to flush out the general aesthetic and franchise design.
I also offered to draw the display case
for the Civil War flag,
but I haven't heard back from SCNR or Ian.
I'm BuilderGuy87 if you're interested.
We likely will not have the Civil War flag
because we can't cover the liability for for it we cannot accept a loaner
for a hundred multi like several hundred thousand dollar objects because our insurance companies are
like we will cancel you in two seconds because we're not going to assume that it's like okay
well we probably can't do that uh as for the uh coffee shops we are all we've already done
everything everything's done i can't say much about it because there's like laws or something, but we are really, really close to the process and it's going to be fantastic.
If you haven't already, you should push this as a third place.
That's what it is.
So one of the ideas is Saturday morning cartoons where Saturdays at like 6 a.m., families bring their kids.
The shop will get catering.
Kids can hang out. On the tvs they're playing
wholesome family friendly uh cartoons and educational stuff the parents are networking
with each other at our building in martinsburg on the second floor we have a private club for
timcast elite members so if you're a member at 100 bucks a month when this opens you'll have a
key fob and you walk up there and go and opens up you can come hang out there'll be hours it'll
probably be like you know 9 to like to like 11 PM every day or something.
And,
uh,
there'll be drinks and snacks and the,
the,
the purpose of the a hundred bucks a month,
not,
we're not making profit off this.
That's like,
trust me,
like having a podcast that reaches millions of people,
there's way better ways to monetize,
but it covers the cost of staff,
food,
drinks,
games and everything.
So we wanted,
uh,
we wanted to create a social club like
they have in new york and los angeles and hollywood and all that stuff where these liberal elites get
together and then talk business trump's got his of course at mar-a-lago we want ours for appalachia
where the plumber can come and hang out and talk with his buddies who one guy works the post office
and one guy's a mechanic and they can be like did you hear what this a-hole over at city hall's
trying to do that organizing is how you win a culture war what would be great too is a
nice way to find a plumber what do you mean i mean it's hard to find people who are going to come do
stuff and fix your house have you used public square to find a plumber maybe i've tried is
that a thing hopefully it's not a bunch of plumbers are signing up as we i was literally
looking at tea on Public Square right now.
Listen, South Park has predicted once AI takes over, those guys are going to be billionaires.
Right?
Because people don't know how to do stuff.
I've been told that as the computers take control or start to take over, it's the things that require manual dexterity that we'll still do.
You remove everybody. You know, the people that keep the world turning are the plumbers and the exterminators and the mechanics.
You remove them.
Maintenance people.
Yeah.
Garbage collectors.
Handyman Services Charlestown.
That easy.
Yeah, I'm checking it out right here.
Nice.
You know, you get rid of guys like me.
Some people might miss me for a week.
But the world keeps turning.
Com Stock Plumbing and Pump in Ransom.
Okay.
Shout out.
This is amazing.
Yeah.
Public Square is so amazing.
Those are great stuff.
I'm so excited this thing exists.
Yeah, really.
Learn a trade.
Yeah.
My son was telling me the other day, he was like, maybe I want to, first he asked me,
what are trades?
And I told him, and he was like, maybe I want to do that.
Yeah.
And I was like, for for sure you could do that
definitely
and you can always like
have passion projects
on the side
because he's also
really into
making music
so
man if you're
if you're in a city
like Chicago
New York or LA
you gotta get
Public Square
yeah I think
Amazon's gonna try
and buy them eventually
I bet
if they haven't already
why would they sell
to Amazon
they're gonna offer
them like a
10 billion dollar
50 billion dollars or something.
No way.
They'll be like, no.
I have a feeling anyway.
The value proposition of public square is that you know these people aren't crackpot
a-hole cultists.
Yes.
It's beyond cash.
Like Amazon, no.
Yeah.
It's like you sell to Amazon.
Dude, this is amazing.
You go to Chicago and there's so many businesses.
If you are in Chicago, New York, or LA, you need to have this because in Chicago, in the belly of the beast of these
Democrat strongholds, there are businesses that outright
say, hey man, we're with you.
Here's a kombucha place on Public Square.
That sounds good.
You have to say, yes, I support them.
I support American values and the family
and all that stuff.
That's so cool.
Alright, I'm downloading it. I took the hint, Tim.
They better hope the locals don't fight.
Otherwise, they're going to get boycotted.
You can see that happening.
You can see the backlash happening in those blue cities.
Oh, wait.
You pledged you loved America.
Now we're going to come out and pick it.
Hundreds of thousands of businesses in Chicago,
and you can find what looks like a couple hundred businesses
that have signed up for public square.
It's really kind of the way it should be.
I don't think they should have to feel like they have to fly a flag to be like,
hey, everyone in the world, just acknowledge it on a piece of paper in the back.
That's all you need.
I believe in this country.
I believe in our rights and the Constitution and family and our values.
That's awesome.
It should be basic.
It shouldn't be controversial at all.
For us out here in West Virginia, it's pretty easy because you walk in,
you're like, America, and and they go yeah because because we're
in manga country even western maryland is manga country yeah i was saying we there's a bar in the
maryland uh in the maryland panhandle in western maryland and they had the trump riding the
velociraptor with the machine gun or whatever and i'm like you don't you don't need you don't need
you know they should be on public square but we know out here but like if you're in new york
you you could intentionally give your money to businesses that have said i believe in
this country and our values and all these things and reject it's like basically just saying no woke
none of that right right that's rad all right all right we'll read some more superchats
okay ayub matan says man tim have some diversity nothing but zionists expect except ian at least have some
moderates ask the panel except ian if islam is inherently violent here's what i love about the
the israel derangement syndrome okay they call everyone zionists like the way the woke call
people white supremacists you're like i think scheduling is important you're a white supremacist
you go uh i
actually don't care about israel or the moral arguments of israel palestine i can understand
why israel went to war you're a zionist it's like okay like i have no idea what you're talking
yeah i acknowledge israel's well right to exist i mean i acknowledge its right to exist in that
de facto it exists there's no denying that and every human has a right to defend themselves i'll go that far i'm talking about zionism if you talk about
do i support like the creation of a ethno state in that that's another conversation i mean so
so i got people on twitter and prominent people they're not like random accounts saying that i'm
a zionist and it's like my position is the the U S should cut all funding in Israel. And they're like Zionist.
And I'm like,
huh?
If you go to my Twitter account,
my profile says one word Zionist.
What does it,
what does it mean?
I don't even know.
I just know that it,
it,
it upsets the squares.
Isn't it originally just,
you think that the Jewish people should have a state?
Yeah.
I'm reading it now.
It's a political movement for the establishment of a Jewish nation state in the area of palestine since 1860 right so it's like calling someone a
white supremacist you're like i don't have any strong opinions on that at all and i don't think
we should be involved or funding it and like well then you're it was a political movement unless
unless you think the old for too many of these people the only way to not be a zionist is to
argue that israel should not exist right right and i I'm like, well, I'm not getting involved in your war, dude.
Oh, like the undoing?
I'm not going to argue for the existence of Burma either.
I'm not going to talk about Tibet.
It's the same reason I have a coffee cup with a rebel flag on it.
It just upsets the uptight squares.
I don't want to undo the Israel.
I want to bring the Jews and the Arabs all and the, in the Muslims together to worship like Abraham,
what we all come from.
Like,
let's acknowledge that together and go deeper.
All right.
Patriot American says I've been going to Lancaster since I was a baby and I
had no clue that yayo came from a plant.
I thought it was just heroin and weed that came from plants.
The cacao plant.
No,
no.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Coca,
Coca plant.
Yeah.
Not cacao.
And then in the mountains in Peru, they like Yeah, not cacao. And in the mountains
in Peru,
they like the,
in the Andes or whatever,
they like chew on coca leaves.
I sucked on that
when I was in Peru.
To like go climbing around.
We take the coca leaf,
you put a little tobacco in it,
just pure like sticky tobacco,
and then you fold up the leaf
and stick it up in your lip
and suck on it
for like 20 minutes.
That's like zen, right?
It really was. Ginger McIsaac says the latest geographical evidence is an asteroid strike that smote
sodom and gomorrah they're an area that had fractional glass just east of the dead sea area
you could look at any miracle in the bible and they'll find a natural reason for it like the
part into the red sea there are everything even the blood how the red sea turned red iron that happens there's like algae in that area yeah yeah you
see that that it's it's like naturalist explanations from the bible right but and that's fine because
this is the question like when when uh when miracles are obvious they're obvious but if god
takes action does he not take action through the natural means of the universe exactly yeah exactly yeah i think god should break microscopes because they'd be cheating
because the water turns red we're like it's blood and then when you get a microscope you're like oh
it's a bacteria i don't think it's cheating yeah no it's cheating for us to figure it out like it's
better to like oh because they say we'll run red with blood is that specific they say with blood
in the bible it's like he and you know maybe he just put algae there. He's like, I didn't want to bring
blood and now you guys are calling
me out. He should just ban microscopes.
You make a good argument that we're not in the end times.
I appreciate it.
I don't think it's a coincidence
that Moses or Charlton Heston,
whoever it was, says these things are going to happen
and then these natural
things happen to make them happen.
We'll get one more in.
Bud Guy says, maybe God was upset since Trump is selling his own version of the Bible.
Isn't it just the King James Version of the Bible?
But it's like a Trump version, isn't it? It's like a Trump brand.
Oh, yeah.
But it's just got, like, Trump branding on it?
Is that what it is?
Yeah, I think it's a Bible with Trump branding.
Was Trump smote for selling a Trump Bible?
It sounds like a warning trump
will sell anything yeah wow and he's good at it that's why he'll sell anything because he keeps
doing it they'll do that for you after you're gone man you don't have to force that yet
that's a good comment live your best life yeah brother he is profiting off the bible how big
is the trump name in comparison to the Holy Bible?
The Holy Trump Bible.
You see how he signs his name?
It takes half the page.
So the problem is,
normally when you search for a product,
you get the product, but because...
All I'm getting is news.
It's all just news.
It's just hate.
How do I know this even exists?
Well, the AP says it costs $59.99.
Sure, and how do I find it?
Yeah, I got no idea.
You know where you could find it?
maybe it's on Public Square Public Square for sure
maybe the Trump store
maybe with shipping
the reason why he got the earthquake
is with shipping it works out to like
6666
that's the problem he has
dude I don't know how you actually buy the Trump Bible
I don't either
it's all just news
you google it nothing but news comes up other jones is unhappy about it all right if i'd known
this when we were talking about the earthquake mother jones yeah you know that magazine i'm just
joking around here you know bro i'm not even like religious or spiritual that much like i'm really
literally deep down like a common sense kind of guy but if he put his name on a bible and i don't
think he did okay i think it's called the god bless the usa bible yeah that's what it says it's more lee greenwood
actually than trump if i remember correctly yeah it's uh it is you're right yeah lee greenwood and
it says god bless the usa bible yeah that's not why is that a bad thing because they're just trying
to yeah because it's trump but he's gonna sell anything he's got legal fees right all right
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I appreciate you guys inviting me.
This was a blast. Thank you. Nice meeting you all, too. I want to shout anything out? I've just had a great time I appreciate you guys inviting me this is a blast
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social media name and john people are gonna follow you at nolteNC. At NolteNC. They can see me.
I write about 15 pieces a week at Breitbart.
I wrote a novel called Borrowed Time.
If people want to check that out, it's getting great reviews on Amazon.
Of course, the mainstream media ignored me.
What's it about?
Like 10 seconds, what's it about?
It's about a guy who lives forever.
He's immortal, but he's a normal guy.
He's not a Dracula or a superhero or anything.
And it just takes him through to the
end of the world and it it's a guy oh i like this 10 000 years old uh uh borrowed time and he could
look at our culture from you know a perspective we can't oh that's awesome that sounds a lot like
ishmael that book that alex jones quotes about the gorilla whose psychic gorilla is like i'm a
gorilla that's awesome um and it's n-o-l-t-e-N-C. N-O-L-T-E-N-C.
And it does say Zionist on your profile.
It's impressive.
Yes, it does.
Good to see you, man.
Bye, everyone.
And I'm Serge.
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