Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #998 Ben Shapiro & Candace Owens Agree To Debate Antisemitism After Schulz Roast w/John Nolte

Episode Date: April 6, 2024

Tim, Ian, Libby, & Serge join John Nolte to discuss Candace Owens & Ben Shapiro agreeing to a debate, the Northeastern United States seeing a rare 4.8 magnitude earthquake, and Rolling Stone blasting ...conservatives over insane conspiracies about the upcoming eclipse. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There was an earthquake today in epicenter was New Jersey. And the crazy thing about it is Trump's golf resort was the epicenter, like basically next to the epicenter. But come on, like considering the size of this earthquake is a 4.8. But how far it reached Trump, it's like Trump's golf resort in Bedminster was the epicenter. And so, of course, we now have to discuss whether we think it was a Chinese super weapon causing this Russian or perhaps the Democrats. I'm kidding, by the way, but it's Friday and it's a slow news week. So I decided perhaps there's something that not enough people are talking about and doesn't generate enough conversation online. And that issue is, of course, Israel.
Starting point is 00:00:37 So instead, we're going to talk about that because Candace. Oh, we got to slow down. So Andrew Schultz says Ben Shapiro can't debate anybody but college liberals. So Candace Owen says I would like to debate Ben Shapiro. So Ben Shapiro says, okay, let's debate. Now they've agreed and they're trying to figure out a time and place. Ben Shapiro says Nashville Monday. Candace Owen says I won't do it on the Daily Wire.
Starting point is 00:01:00 My name got floated for potential moderator. I volunteered. So I really want to talk about this issue. I think it's interesting why Candace and Ben are debating. And I don't know, maybe having a discussion on it may actually make me not a good moderator for the debate considering we're going to have a conversation Friday before it potentially even happened. We'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:01:18 We'll talk about, of course, the earthquake that hit New York, New Jersey. And what omen uh comes with this uh epicenter being at trump's golf resort and then i love it they got a bunch of conspiracy days about the solar eclipse so it's friday night we're gonna have fun we're gonna hang out before we get started my friends head over to cast brew.com to buy coffee why it's our coffee company and all of the proceeds for cast brew coffee are going back into the company, investing in our expansion of physical locations. That's the goal. I'd love it if every shopping mall, every strip mall in this country had a Casper location.
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Starting point is 00:03:23 And I write three editorials a day and call it a day. It's a great job. I'm a very greatest job in the world I have. Well, all right. Actual Justice Warrior has returned. Yes. I'm just like this morning. I am a YouTuber. I've been doing it since 2016 and I make one
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Starting point is 00:04:18 we got serge pressing the buttons yep i'm here y'all uh ready when you are all right let's just uh you know we originally going to talk about the earthquake but this is fun and the conversation before the cameras even turned on got pretty good so i was like let's just talk about candace ben shapiro israel anti-semitism and what this whole debate's about so here's how it starts you got this clip from andrew schultz anomaly tweets andrew schultz realizes ben Shapiro is only good at debating college liberals and can't win debates against serious competition. I will play the clip for you now and you can hear what he had to say. Candace, she's not afraid of nobody. She will say whatever the fuck she wants to say. She's smart enough. She will debate any single person.
Starting point is 00:04:56 She'll go out there and do it, right? Ben Shapiro is debating college kids. Yeah. Let's just be honest, right? It's like anytime he debates somebody who's like worthy, he either gets washed or bare minimum stalemate. I've never seen him actually win a debate against somebody who's like educated in the matter. So in response to this, Candace Owen says, I would like to debate Ben Shapiro on Israel and the current definition of anti-Semitism. Can somebody make that happen? To which Ben Shapiro responded, sure, Candace, I texted you on February 29th offering this very thing. Let's do it on my show this Monday at 5pm at our studios
Starting point is 00:05:30 in Nashville. 90 minutes live streamed. I believe Ben went on to say, I am now signing off. Okay, okay. There's a little bit more in the drama before we get into it. Candace says, I'm sure you can appreciate why I prefer to keep this off the Daily Wire platform as well as the true reason why
Starting point is 00:05:46 we were never able to make any discussion happen. Let's choose a neutral, trustworthy platform. I vote Patrick, bet David. To which Ben Shapiro responds, Candace, I can see why you'd want to hide behind a moderator, particularly one who said we should rename our company the Daily Jewish Wire just yesterday. No.
Starting point is 00:06:02 One-on-one, Monday at 5pm. We can sit down and have a healthy debate like adults and we'll live stream it on x and youtube take it or leave it as to the true reason you didn't respond to my offer to sit with me sit with you and discuss these issues publicly or privately back in february i have no idea what the hell you're talking about he then said i am now signing off for shabbat i plan to be in nashville for this conversation on monday so this all starts with of course andrew schultz saying Ben Shapiro can't debate. I don't agree with Schultz on this one.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I think he's isolated. There's there's copious amounts of Ben Shapiro, you know, dishing it out to college liberals who ask him these questions. But also Ben Shapiro has sat down for numerous discussions. He does the Sunday special. He has conversations and debates with tons of people all the time. I don't, I'm not saying he's the greatest debater in the world, but the idea that he's only ever successful against college liberals,
Starting point is 00:06:53 I disagree with, but I don't know what you guys, if you guys want to jump in and we'll just. I think he would have, I think he would do great in the debate on Israel because he's right. I think that would help him enormously is that his position on it is the right position. Well, what is that position? That the war in Gaza is a just war, that the only moral outcome of the war is, and I'm going to use this word deliberately, is the extermination of Hamas. And that those who are calling for ceasefires, those who are saying, blaming, you know, like these aid workers, is Israel, did they make a mistake?
Starting point is 00:07:35 Are they responsible for that mistake? Yes. But are they morally responsible? No. Hamas is morally responsible because they started the war. So that gives, in my opinion, he's correct on the debate. And I don't see how someone can morally say that what Israel is doing is wrong, because what they're doing needs to be done or more people are going to die in the future. How did the World Central Kitchen thing happen? How do you accidentally target three separate vehicles in different areas and kill a bunch of aid workers? That I don't know. But if you start a war, which is what Hamas did, innocent people are going to
Starting point is 00:08:17 die. I don't think for a second that Israel targeted innocent people. Number one, why would they? The only thing it could do is hurt them, which of course it has. Well, they did target innocent people. The question is- I mean, deliberately. Right. Was it an accident or otherwise?
Starting point is 00:08:31 I think obviously it was an accident. What's the upside to killing innocent people? Deliberately, there's no upside. The aid workers, the upside is they don't get the food and water to the people they're trying to exterminate. But if they kill those people, I mean, there's all kinds of
Starting point is 00:08:45 stuff going in there to help the people in Gaza, to help the civilians, we hope. So knocking out 12 aid workers is not going to make a huge difference in what's going in there. All it's going to do is what's happened to Israel, what we all know was going to happen to Israel, which is Biden turned against them and public opinion turned against them. There's no upside to killing those aid workers. One of the thoughts i had while you were explaining that is that because hamas started the war israel has the right to kill civilians or they're say that it's not their fault they were their hand was forced so i disagree because if a country were to like invade my borders and start a war and then i go total war on them and start bombing their cities and killing them i don't
Starting point is 00:09:22 have the right to blame them for me killing all those civilians i made that choice but but you you have israel has a moral obligation to exterminate hamas they have to do it and that's going to save lives it's like dropping bombs on japan atomic bombs in japan that was a moral thing to do it ended the war and it saved lives and if you let hamas go on especially after what happened October 7th, you're going to see a lot more civilians. It's going to be like Iraq and Afghanistan, 20 years of hell. Civilians, this immoral, moral war that you let go on for decades and decades. So couldn't they go to – where's the leadership, the Hamas leadership currently at? Aren't they in like Qatar? A bunch of them are in Qatar, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Yeah, so why doesn't the U.S. and Israel just actually go and put them in cuffs? I don't think it's that easy. I mean, they hide among civilians. Plus, you've got to get – No, they're not. I'm pretty sure these are public-facing people who – like one guy went on TV. Plus, you have to take away their ability to wage war again. And that's what they're doing going into Gaza. Because it's not, you know, it's not, we don't have hospitals. We have hospitals built on top of weaponry. That's the stuff you have to get rid of. It's like the Nazis.
Starting point is 00:10:36 You have to not only get rid of Hitler, you have to get rid of Nazis. You have to get rid of Nazism. You have to take away their ability to ever wage war again. That's the only moral outcome. I thought that too, that it is important to remove the Nazism from the, from the Nazis. So you have normal people again,
Starting point is 00:10:51 basically. So killing the individuals isn't always the way to get rid of an ideology. And my concern with trying to eradicate Hamas is the blowback. They're killing a lot of innocent people that will then grow up to become even worse terrorizers of the system than the current ones is my fear. And then that will leave Israel and no Israel no more justification other than to say we need to eradicate everyone there because otherwise it will never stop. And that's like the slippery slope I see in the future I want to avoid. Well, I think he's underselling it because it's not only that they start this war, but they started the war and then refused to fight it.
Starting point is 00:11:21 They attacked and then hid among the civilian population and as far as the blowback if this organization that is the leadership already says we're committed to wiping you off the face of the earth like the idea that like oh well just imagine what happens if you make them angry they they that's already their mission now they're already at the end point so yeah you do have a problem but the fact is right now they control the education system right now they're breeding or right trying to raise these kids into the next generation of soldiers to fight the Israelis. So, like, you have to get rid of that. And, like, you know, the Nazi example, we did do policies of, like, denazification. You had to take that stuff out of the education stuff. we would consider very like anti-American was done in europe where they banned um being in
Starting point is 00:12:05 nazi parties and denying the holocaust and all that because that's how extreme the the uh that rooted ideology was in europe so it's a similar kind of thing like but again it's not that they just started the war it's that they didn't fight it they were like okay we attacked now we're going to hide and then wait for the media to say look look at how bad you are at finding us. And the other point I would make is that we've tried it your way. Israel's tried it your way for decades, and they got October 7th. So that way doesn't work because you cannot do business with savages. And that's what Hamas is. I'm not talking about Gazans.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I'm not talking about Arabs. Hamas is savages, and they need to be exterminated because if you don't exterminate them, it's going to happen again. So you're saying the two-party solution? Was that when you said the vision I'm looking for, is that like a two-party solution? No, when you say... Like a two-state solution? Two-state solution, that's what I mean. Not a two-state solution, but the idea that, oh, we got to back off, or do a ceasefire, or worrying about, or what you said about worrying about it creating hate. Israel has done everything. They removed themselves from Gaza in 2005.
Starting point is 00:13:11 They gave the Gazans incredible land that they could have turned into another Miami. That was part of the plan. That was part of like the Jared Kushner concept. And what did they do? So they tried to do what you're suggesting, and what they got was October 7th. But if they were given the opportunity to build a great city, but then they were under a blockade, like walled in and under a blockade? They got billions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I mean, compared to them, the Gazans per capita get more money than Americans do, more money than any other aid people in the world. But they were being blockaded? I don't know exactly what was being blockaded, but they were able to build it, build an awful lot of stuff there, including incredible tunnels.
Starting point is 00:13:53 If they can build a tunnel, why can't they build a resort? Hamas posted the video of turning water pipes into rockets. Yeah, they did. Whether they actually were doing that or it was propaganda, that was their propaganda,
Starting point is 00:14:03 where they were like, look at these water pipes they gave us. Sounds like something that someone would do in that situation. You have no money. If you feel like you're being annihilated, you just use your basic weapons, whatever. No one was annihilated. No one's in there. No one's bothering them.
Starting point is 00:14:15 If Gaza and Hamas disarm tomorrow, there would be peace. If Israel disarmed tomorrow, Gaza would exterminate them within two weeks. What if everybody was armed? I'm seeing that the UN spent 600 million on Gaza in 2020. How much? 600 million? 600 million. Just in 2020 alone
Starting point is 00:14:38 and has given, gave 4.5 billion between 2014 and 2020. I've asked a lot of people about and that's just the u.n like what would happen and you know usually when i ask like what would happen if you know like hamas surrendered and it'd be like the war's over and i'd be like and then what like and and gaza goes on as it is and i'm like with the walls and everything like yeah of course and then whatever they can do whatever they want and then i said okay what would happen if israel said we're tearing the walls down palestinians have free reign to move would happen if israel said we're tearing the walls down
Starting point is 00:15:05 palestinians have free reign to move in and around israel you're not all welcome and i've never gotten a straight answer because i think even the people who are who are critical of israel or even as i would call it israel deranged understand what happens if israel takes the walls down and says all of gaza please feel free to you get october 7th. Well, there were a lot of the, like, I remember the October 7th, there were a lot of the workers who had passes to work in Israel were among those who were committing the atrocities on that day. So they had, you know, already had access to Israel and they were coming in to do that. It's kind of crazy. I don't think that this, whatever this is,
Starting point is 00:15:48 there's no easy answer. My position is typically the America first one of just like, oh, I don't know about the moral questions here, man. I don't know why we're involved. And I know, I understand Ben Shapiro's argument about a US ally in the region, the risks of rapid escalation if Israel goes, what do they call it, the Samson option, and how the US needs to have a strong presence in controlling things to prevent the expansion into a massive World War III. And I'm just like, I understand that. My view more so is the U.S. is driving itself into World War III in a variety of different areas, particularly with Ukraine. I don't see how our involvement is improving anything.
Starting point is 00:16:30 You're concerned about Ukraine, I share, completely. But Hamas's charter is wipe out Israel and then wipe out all the Jews, including American Jews. Well, they did change it. They took that part about wiping out the Jews. Just recently. Just recently. Well, I believe them. Well, I feel better then. And this is the crazy thing. I believe it's in the Hadith.
Starting point is 00:16:42 What's that? The line says, oh, you know, the tree says there's a Jew hiding behind me or something. And that was in the Hamas charter only until recently. So my point is. I feel better. Right. Exactly. I don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:16:55 It was a PR move. It was a PR move. And I'm not accusing you of this, but it was a PR move so that someone could make the argument you just made. Why are we there? Why are we helping them? They're very good at PR. very good at PR. People have made that argument to me. They're like, no, that's not in the charter anymore. And I'm like, oh, come on. So what I've heard is that the PLO, the Palestinian Liberation Organization, which was Yasser Arafat's Palestinian government in the late 1900s or 1990s, you know, up to relatively recently, that I heard that the Israelis were
Starting point is 00:17:22 involved with breaking them apart because they controlled the West Bank and Gaza, and it made it look like they're really going to get a two-state solution. We don't want that. We want the territory. So let's create a new government. We'll call it Hamas that can rule over in Gaza while the PLO can have the West Bank. Now we have two disparate factions fighting each other, easy pickings, and they're villains so that when they attack us, we can use it as a false flag. You know, if someone stole my land, right? If someone came in and wiped out my family and stole my land, I would not sentence my descendants to generations of hate and despair and poverty. You move on.
Starting point is 00:18:02 In fact, most places in the world have done that. That's exactly right. You move on. In fact, most places in the world have done that. That's exactly right. You move on. But what they have done, what Hamas has done to the Gazans, and what Arafat did, was sentence these people, innocent people, to generations of poverty and hate and vengeance, and he destroyed their lives, and Hamas is destroying their lives and it doesn't matter what happened in the past just move on but what about i figured it out right of return casinos in in the gaza strip they can't gamble what about i know what about right of getting right my point is i i talk about this because uh uh native americans for instance that's right in the
Starting point is 00:18:38 united states they're never going to reconquer the united states they've won lawsuits that's what you do they've set up casinos they they it was masterful i was reading about i believe a hard rock seminal what is what started the wave of indian casinos it was in 70s they had a bingo hall the state said gambling is illegal you can't do this they said you don't regulate us we're federal under the under the treaties federal government said you're damn right we have jurisdiction here because the federal government's not going to give up jurisdiction if they can keep it and they said no no no they're right so they answered to us and the native americans were like we got a good deal for the federal
Starting point is 00:19:12 government tax money and then they were like let's roll and then indian casinos popped up all over the place and now you've got these extremely wealthy tribes that have found a way to succeed through the history that has been bad and i have i have no if anyone who looks at the history of what happened to the american indian in this country it's indefensible and i have nothing but sympathy and empathy for that a lot more than i have well for what's happening in israel and i agree with you 100 they have arisen above it on the native american thing i think it's important to question uh it's not it wasn't a monolith what happened to native americans wasn't like i wouldn't say european colonists arriving in the united into the the into the into north
Starting point is 00:19:53 america is 100 the cause of all strife and all calamity for all the americans yeah so i wouldn't i wouldn't necessarily say it's indefensible i'm like certainly there are many instances where you know uh native americans went and killed a bunch of colonists for no reason and things like that had happened. It was inevitable and indefensible. That's the way I would put it. I think there were things that were about like the Trail of Tears and things like that are indefensible. And this is war. The history of humanity has been conquest, I think, through moral philosophy, but mostly through abundance,
Starting point is 00:20:28 through technological advancement, we've come to the point where we're like, okay, you know, now we don't really need to be stealing land from each other because we're all pretty much too fat as it is. Not everyone in the world, but you know, particularly in the United States and in the, in the developed world, we got so much, so much resources that these things are starting to chill out. Well, obesity is now a condition of poverty. That crazy yeah so so look uh we see this in the animal kingdom animals predators that are well fed don't bother killing prey it's it's a risk so if you've got you know a lion that's gonna go fight a gazelle or something there is a risk of death in doing that but it needs to it needs to survive when you take these animals and put them in captivity and keep them well fed, there still is instinct, so it does happen. But you'll see these videos where it's like a lion sitting and snuggling with a chicken or something because there's no reason to fight.
Starting point is 00:21:15 He's not hungry. So that's where we are going, and I like these things. things now we're looking at other parts of the world that ideologically are driven towards fighting for look honor i guess like that is our land our family was there a hundred years ago so we're gonna just fight forever and it's a tough question because it i believe honor does matter i mean we're facing an invasion on our southern border you've got the black community in chicago screaming that they're being replaced did you did you hear this yeah the black community has some kind of replacement theory that they believe is happening it's isn't that racist i'm told that's racist well that's just great not when they say it well that's what they've been saying and obviously i'm being a little facetious but the black community chicago has
Starting point is 00:22:02 actually gone to meetings yelling you're replacing us because they're bringing these, these, these people. And I think it's fair to be like, Hey, we have morals. We have traditions. We have values. We don't want to lose. So we should control immigration. But there's a question of, do you leave New York? Do you leave Chicago? Do you leave California? Find a better life. I think there is a good argument for find where you can where you can thrive make money have a family and then win financially and let the people who have the bad ideas fail and then over time you end up winning but many people have said no you can't give up these cities to the far left so there there is an interesting conundrum in would you actually give up your land if someone came to
Starting point is 00:22:39 take it from you versus i see your point it's been been what? 70 something years. Yeah, it's crazy. And at this point, maybe your best opportunity is build success and wealth. But if my dad was like, you know, your grandma's house, my whole life since I was a kid, he's like that,
Starting point is 00:22:55 that the guy that lives there, he stole that from your grandma 35 years, 47 years ago. I'd be so pissed. I would be so pissed. And a dude was just living in my grandma's house and she had nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Like I would be so mad. Why doesn't anyone ever get mad at- Would you go try to kill that guy? If you ask me that now, I would say no. But if you stick me in Gaza for 20 years, I don't know. But why does no one ever get mad at Egypt? I mean, there's three crossings into Gaza. There's two from Israel and one from Egypt. Egypt supports this blockade fully. Yeah, Egypt's- They are fully complicit and happy about it. And you have also other nations in the region, you have, you know, there's all these Palestinian refugees. Other nations in the region are refusing to take them in.
Starting point is 00:23:35 So what's going on with that? Why is it that these people are, you know, why is it that this group of people are so unpalatable to the rest of the people in the region? It's not just Israel who comes against these people. Do you know what I mean? It's the strategy. Like all of these nations have made a pact that they weren't going to take them as citizens
Starting point is 00:23:53 because they want a perpetual refugee population there, a stateless group of people, because they want them to go into Israel. It's all politics. They could take these people. And I know like there have been problems when you import a mass of them that they don't think the It's all politics. They could take these people. And I know like there have been problems. When you import a mass of them. That they don't think the government's radical enough. This happened like where they try to assassinate the king of Jordan.
Starting point is 00:24:11 But the fact of the matter is. They were citizens of Jordan. Like there was no Palestine that Israel took over. And they were citizens of Egypt. But like the plan. And all the Arab states are basically aligned on this. Is to keep them there. Have them be stateless people. Because eventually like in my opinion, it will work. Like I'm actually pretty doomer on
Starting point is 00:24:29 like the future of Israel because public pressure is already turning against them. You can get attacked. It's the greatest terrorist attack in your history, proportionally one of the worst in the world compared to their population. And public opinion is like not on their side. And they're only losing public opinion where here or even here it's like it's low but like worldwide i mean now granted there's like 55 countries with built-in animosity to the for the jump but yeah they're losing public opinion on the world stage so this is the design this is the plan and i think back when the 67 war happened and they actually expanded into this territory they should have sent the people there because what happened when to the jewish populations in all these other
Starting point is 00:25:08 countries they were they were removed from their countries and they had to go to israel the important thing people need to understand about war is that you're not making any moral arguments it's never going to happen there is no circumstance where you say hey israel what you did was wrong and unjust well i think their response is going to be we There is no circumstance where you say, hey, Israel, what you did was wrong and unjust. I think their response is going to be we're at war. Have a nice day. I think repopulation violates the Geneva Convention. It does, but it's one of those things that now it's like it sounds super horrible.
Starting point is 00:25:36 But Germany is a state for Germanic people. Italy is a state for Italian people. Like different ethnic groups have separated to form their own states throughout all of human history i mean austria hungary two separate ethnic groups they split off into two different countries like you need to like if you can't get along with the with two groups can't get along like one of the what are you your option is this is to form your own countries this is what the kurds have been trying to do forever are you suggesting we should have a national divorce in america i don't think so necessarily in america but one of the things i think about right of return because we're talking about like repopulation going is like you were saying earlier john i kind of agree
Starting point is 00:26:11 with you got both you and tim that just because my my parents owned a house i'm born i don't have a right to that house so what is this right of return so so let me let me i think it's i by de facto i don't own it when i'm born so let guy that owns it owns it. So let's play a game. Your grandpa goes to you and he says son 75 years ago your great grandfather lived in that house and that guy who's in there his great grandfather came in
Starting point is 00:26:36 with a gun pointed at us and kicked us out and now we don't have it anymore. You need to get it back. So then you get your buddies together and you go to the house you bang on the door and you're like give me back my house and the guy goes who are you and you're like my great grandfather owned this house but your great grandfather stole it from him and then he goes what your great grandfather wasn't even here there was no one in this house i came here your
Starting point is 00:26:57 grandfather was across the street and you're gonna be like that's not what my great grandfather said and i'm sitting here as like an adjudicator being like yo what yeah i don't i don't like that it belonged to my ancestors so now it belongs to me i don't like that no no that's not and i'm sitting here as like an adjudicator being like yo what yeah i don't i don't like that it belonged to my ancestors so now it belongs to me i don't like that no no that's not what i'm saying you don't know you've got the pro-israel side saying that's not true and the pro-palestine saying pro-palestine says it's our land we can prove it pro-israel side says no it's not we can prove it and then the united states is stupid in my opinion for being involved in a dispute that has has no like you're not you can't solve i don't i think that trying to build israel there because that's the place that they
Starting point is 00:27:30 were 2 000 years ago is like the palestinians saying i want my house back it's the same my point is you are you are operating under the assertion it actually was their land which is disputed by the opposing faction oh okay i okay. I am not Israel or Palestine. I am the United States. And I say, I don't see why we're involved in their dispute over this. I would just take your metaphor even further. Look at what you were talking about, the strategy. If you care about the people in that area, they're the ones that are suffering because
Starting point is 00:28:02 of that bullshit and because of the strategy that he's talking about. It is the Gazans, the civilians, they are the ones generationally being abused by Egypt and the Palestinians and Hamas. They're the ones doing the suffering. Israel's doing pretty good. You know, they built a little paradise over there. I know October 7th happened. But the true victim of all this are the people that are being kept in poverty and are being taught to hate and vengeance and are being told, you need to go get your grandfather's house. That's your identity. Go get your grandfather's house.
Starting point is 00:28:38 And now here's another thing too. Ben and Jerry's came out and they were like, we should, you know, the U.S. is on stolen land. We should give it back. And then some Native Americans were like, your factory is on stolen land. You should give it back. And they were like, wait, no, we don't want to do that. Not for us. But think about the United States. There are Native Americans who are worth hundreds of millions of dollars or millions of dollars, wildly successful. uh there there is this like after a long period of time i don't think the answer is for wealthy and successful native americans who have made a good life to be like okay now i'm
Starting point is 00:29:13 going to go physically fight to take they wouldn't jerry's fact they were bought a lot of those chiefs were bought out in the process of the of the colonization so they were very wealthy a lot of them they weren't like the slaves they were my point is you're better off living on barren land than fighting in a war yeah just go go do your own thing just let it go and do your own thing that's the key to a good life and the other thing about this whole colonized land that that indian tribe that said that they owned the ben and jerry's land maybe they did but you go back in time they stole it from someone and then they stole it from someone so who do you give it to do you look for someone who's who's who's part of a cave well have you ever seen the uh conquest and energy have you ever seen the there's a viral video it's called like
Starting point is 00:29:52 this this land is my land god gave this land to me it went viral like 14 years ago and it's basically it's a song where they're singing this land is my land and and it basically just shows an animation of every different group that has taken so who do you give it to the what are they what do they call the region what's the proper term the levant the levant is it like they showed all the different factions that had taken it and lost it and taken it and lost it you go so far back i don't even know if there's a video go back all the way to the canaanites before the the israelite even existed like the canaanites but this is the this is the problem with it is my that my ancestral land argument it's funny because what they're doing right now is they're saying vladimir putin is evil he's just like hitler he's
Starting point is 00:30:35 not going to stop at ukraine he thinks ukraine is his and then you go well 70 years ago it was soviet union and then you ask the same exact people now what about the palestinians who want to take back they what they claim is theirs in israel because that used to be their land well but they're they're the oppressed it's okay if the oppressed want to want to attack someone else to take land they think is theirs but if you're an oppressor you can't take attack land that in that dumb argument the oppressor oppressed has removed all logic all facts all history and all morality from the argument this is this is the funny thing there's a justification of war so let me ask you a question uh you you you uh do you agree with or or uh sympathize let's let's assume the land uh in israel that palestinians claim is theirs is there just for the sake of argument
Starting point is 00:31:23 do you sympathize with them and believe they have a right to take it back? I don't think they have a right. Oh, God, I've never been there. I don't know what the conditions are really like. But like you said, oppressed people that are overthrowing tyranny can maybe make a claim for a just war. People that have all the control that are stomping out powerless civilians do not have a justification for that, in my opinion. So you would go with the critical theory on because Israel's stronger, they don't have a right to defend themselves or what? No, no, they do have a right to defend themselves.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Always, always, always. But is the war declaration justified of them taking their houses back? I don't know, man. I don't think so. I don't, what is it? The UN said that Israel's in violation of international law with the occupation.
Starting point is 00:32:07 But I don't know if that really gives them a right to attack and kill. That pertains to Gaza or the West Bank. I'll answer it. I think there was a period of time where the land's in dispute. People fight over land historically, and they should fight. But what I'm annoyed by is if you lose the war, you lost the war. It's sad what happened to the natives. I will say there are wealthy natives, but they are poorer on average than most groups
Starting point is 00:32:28 in the United States. So they still are suffering. We should have assimilated them into the population like some of the founders wanted to. Unfortunately, others won out on that. But for the for the Palestinian cause, yeah, they fought the wars multiple times. They did not win. So like there's this weird thing where it's like in this specific conflict. And this is why I hate the ceasefire talk, because if ceasefires worked, this would be the most peaceful place on planet Earth. The problem that we have here is that
Starting point is 00:32:54 throughout most of human history, when you started a war, you knew that if you lost, you were going to be annihilated. So you were very cautious about starting wars. What we do when we're like when when we're constantly police this action or that action or try to get them to use the least amount of force possible is we just sow the seeds for the second conflict and we lower the barrier or that we lower the consequences for initiating force against another country like in japan like we were like okay you're gonna bomb pearl harbor you're going to feel the full force of the United States of America. You're never going to do this again.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Yeah. In Germany. That's sort of a. And we occupied them since then. Yeah. In Germany, they declared war on us. They didn't actually attack us in Pearl Harbor for no reason. They decided they were going to declare war on us.
Starting point is 00:33:37 And it's like, okay. No. You're going to feel the full force. We blew up one of the submarines. Actually, we declared war on Germany when the submarine sunk one of our ships. I got a question for you guys. What started World War II? Hitler's invasion of poland i believe why did hitler invade poland to get land back that used to be germany liebenstein according to him was it was it was it danzig i think it is yeah you you brought that up anyway a couple weeks ago carlson
Starting point is 00:33:59 brought that up okay so we only commented on what he was talking about. It was more than just Danzig, I think, but that was a big city. And what happened was, after World War I, Germany, what was the treaty? Treaty of Versailles. The Treaty of Versailles. Sign of Versailles. Paris. And impoverished Germany. Right. Took a bunch of their land, stripped it away, gave authority.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Made the pale the debts of all the other countries. Right. And so they were, so you have this country with hyperinflation, the Weimar Republic is struggling. Yeah. And what happens? Hitler, who was deranged, utilized the anger these people felt, weaponized it in stupid ways, obviously, and psychotic and deadly ways.
Starting point is 00:34:39 But it was very much, oh, hey, I get to start a war because that lands historically ours and we have a right to it. And that was his. he said that city was historically germany give it back poland said no he said okay declared war yeah it was more too i've heard that there were they were the people in danzig that were considered the social germans were being genocided by the new polish government they wanted the city for poland and uh hitler was like oh god those are by the way there there is a lot of truth to eastern europe European cities being set up by the Germans. Like that actually is like historically accurate, but that doesn't necessarily mean
Starting point is 00:35:10 you could invade that territory. But I'm going to nerd out and say Japan started World War II because they were invading countries in Asia before that. Right, absolutely. They were super aggro. But I mean like, what triggered- I say Mussolini started World War I.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Mussolini's invasion of East Africa gave Hitler the Kansas belly. Yo, it's wild. Like World War II was like legit all over the place. It was in Africa, it was everywhere. It was like a world war. Yes, right. Now that you mention it.
Starting point is 00:35:35 But this is my thing. Like they say Putin wants to take back Ukraine and it's because Ukraine was historically Russia. So he thinks there's a right to it. And I'm like, so the Palestinians don't have a right to Israel. Israeli state. Are they not saying they have a right to the territory?
Starting point is 00:35:50 And to the Israeli state, I believe the claim of the, well, you're going to call it occupation or whatever you want to call it, is that they have a right to the territory. It's the same thing. Putin's saying about Ukraine that the Germans said about it. It's like the other question is where are the Jews supposed to go?
Starting point is 00:36:09 Like, where are they supposed to go in the world i live with them amongst us i don't even know who's jewish but i don't even want to i don't even want to say jewish because there's other people who live in israel where are the israelis supposed to go if if the if the palestinians have their way and to the river to the sea to the sea and from the river to the sea becomes you know from the jordan river all the way to the you know right they want them to go to the sea becomes, you know, from the Jordan River all the way to the, you know, Mediterranean. Right, they want them to go to the sea. Yes. So where are they supposed to go? You mean if I make such a groundbreaking argument that they actually declare peace, like where are they going to go? Well, I don't think, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I mean, do you think, I don't think that Hamas has any intention of having a peaceful situation with Israel. Like at this point, the Palestinians would need to have a completely new leadership structure. And you have the Palestinian Authority making deals with, you know, having like backroom conversations or whatever with Hamas. Because together, like, if they unified, then there's an even bigger problem for Israel. But Israel removed all of the settlements, all of the Israeli settlements from Gaza in like 2005. And we're like, OK, have your have your spot, you know, and we're going to go over here. We're going to maintain really secure borders because I know that you have a lot of terrorists. But it was only after Biden got elected that, according to like the Wall Street Journal reporting,
Starting point is 00:37:18 it was after Biden got elected that Hamas started making these plans to do this invasion. And it's pretty interesting, I think, that timing because Donald Trump doesn't have, you know, Donald Trump is like the crazy homeless guy on the corner with a knife. You're going to back away, right? Like one thing I really liked about Donald Trump is like he was pretty clear.
Starting point is 00:37:37 If you come after the US, if you come after our allies, we're just going to destroy you is what's going to happen. Like we're going to have a disproportionate response. And as an American, if my country is under a threat, I want a president who's going to be no holds barred about a response. I don't want a proportionate response if you attack America. I don't want that to be proportionate. Like I'm not, I don't want to, you know, mess around with you so that maybe you like keep
Starting point is 00:38:00 chucking bombs at us or whatever. You know what I mean? Plus that's the best way to keep peace. And it's a good way to keep peace. Scare the hell out of the other guy. Talk quietly, stick what was what was that trump quote he's like on the voicemail and he's like yeah i told she and putin that if they if he took taiwan or he took ukraine i'd nuke moscow or beijing i love this and he was like i don't know if they believed me but maybe five percent exactly like just believe him a little bit and then suddenly we're gonna have some peace we
Starting point is 00:38:25 had peace in israel and one thing that hamas definitely doesn't want and the hard line islamists don't want they don't want saudi arabia and the uae having any kind of normalized relations with israel and i think a lot of this is about messing up that kind of diplomacy look take everything democrats have said about trump completely at face value and true and now be a foreign leader. And he comes up to you. He's like, well, if you take Ukraine, I'll nuke Moscow. And you're like, that's great. Is this guy for real?
Starting point is 00:38:53 What do I do? Have you seen the reports about this guy? He's nuts. That's that's a thing that I like about Trump. He keeps peace by, you know, and he kept peace in the United States by just like appearing like he could do anything. You never knew. And I like that. I like that in a president. Biden, it's like, oh, you know, if you blow up New York, Biden's going to be like, oh, I'm sorry, did we do something to offend you? Yeah, let's be proportional. Do you need more gay stuff? But the answer to your
Starting point is 00:39:19 question, where would the Jews go? That was the whole point of creating Israel. Right. Because they had no place to go after the Holocaust. They had been destroyed. It wasn't just what the Nazis did to them. It's what all of Europe did to them. It's what Russia did to them with the program. So they went back to their homeland, which they feel they have a claim on going back to the Book of Moses 4,000 years ago.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Well, and it's kind of convenient, too, to put Israel there right in harm's way. It's convenient for Europe and for the United States, you know, because then Israel takes all the slings and arrows and we're just over here like, yeah, we'll give you a right to a check. I certainly think there's a very large religious component to it as well. Oh yeah, definitely. With the, you know, the red heifer stuff
Starting point is 00:39:57 and the eschatology or whatever. Those are fascinating conversations, but there absolutely are people who believe it. I'm not saying the government believes it. The conversations I've had with the very anti-Israel faction, these people say they don't think Israel really believes the deep religious stuff and the second coming or anything like that. But there are powerful political forces within Israel and outside of Israel that are Christian or Jewish that certainly believe that they've got to take the heifer, sacrifice it and all that stuff or whatever that is. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Yeah. Realistically, I would say that Jewish people could live wherever they want on earth, wherever safe and enjoyable, like United States. I live, my best friends have been Jewish throughout life and I didn't even know, I don't know what that means. I don't, it's no different than Christian in my mind, but they weren't hardcore practicing. And I understand why they would want a community of people that shut everything down on Saturday and everyone's cool with it. I kind of miss when stuff got shut down
Starting point is 00:40:47 on sundays when i grew up in massachusetts stuff would be closed on sundays what religion kind of like had to take a break uh christianity you know you close the sundays the sabbath day chick-fil-a everybody was chick-fil-a everybody was chick-fil-a but like you'd go into stores and you couldn't buy in blue in massachusetts they had blue laws i don't know if they still do but like you couldn't buy liquor on sunday they have that where i live they still can't i think not till noon or something in pennsylvania i think the state stores you can't you can't buy cars in uh i'm pretty sure in virginia on on sunday oh my gosh yeah well there's a new demonic technology when they wrote that law in 1911 or whatever but to your point like you can't you can't have the
Starting point is 00:41:23 stores open on sunday and i don't know when they made the law just saying but to your point about like uh they could live in the united states yeah that's the second most like jewish populated country in the world the united states but like the idea is minority populations historically or distinct ethnic groups find their own state and like for the for the jewish people it makes sense like all their things are there like you know all the things in their book that that's like down the street. Now, if they formed a nation, like let's say they lost the war and they had to be pushed off and they had to form a nation on like an island somewhere and they went with that. I'd be like, fine.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Like, you know, you lost. I'm sorry that all your like religious texts, like items and places are all in that location. But they ended up winning the war. So do you think it's okay for an ethnic group to find and create their own state i think it's the history of the world people form uh form their states based on ethnic origin or shared religion or something shared taiwan like like anywhere like france like the idea of a that's an ideology actually yeah like of an ethno state like the purpose of their government is to protect their i think in the united i think to to the united states becoming an ethno state i think that's
Starting point is 00:42:27 a pipe dream that people don't i don't know i'm just i'm just clarified but i'm not israel most countries in the history of the world are ethnic or ethno states like it's just a fact or religion or shared religion right so so you would say yes yes 100 but what so the question is about europe yeah i think germany look germany should be for german when autobahn bismarck united germany into Yes, 100%. So the question is about Europe. Yeah, I think Germany... Look, Germany should be for German people. When Otto von Bismarck united Germany into one state in the 1800s, the reason they did that is because Germanic people needed their own state. They had cities in Eastern Europe that they had put together,
Starting point is 00:42:57 and the native population didn't like the German elite in those cities. When also in the 1800s, the first time like Italian unification happened, it was about having a state for Italian people. Like this is the history of the world. So a hundred percent of my favorite. France for the French, Italy for the Italian. Yes. The thing about Israel though, Israel, I agree a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Like that is how societies form culturally over time. You develop an ethnic state and then you make a state out of it or whatever. But the, the Jewish state got built by a law. It wasn't like naturally over time for develop an ethnic state and then you make a state out of it or whatever but the the jewish state got built by a law it wasn't like naturally over time for thousands of years they got placed there in 1917 or some ridiculous like they just all of a sudden it just appeared and all this new ethnicity appeared there and they were like this is our land and anyone else that's not this ethnicity might have a problem with that and that's like so forcing an ethnic state is might be a different argument a lot of a lot of ethnic states were created in the immediate aftermath of world war ii like pakistan
Starting point is 00:43:49 was created was actually cut off from india and then there was actually east and west pakistan which one became bangladesh but yeah it was created suddenly and like the lead-up was and there was a jewish president's presence but if you look at the ottoman records they kept it very low like 5 000000 Jewish people in that territory. But over time, after the Ottoman Empire fell, they started buying up land, establishing a presence. The British ended up receiving that territory after World War I, when the Ottoman Empire fell, prize of war. And they promised, they actually promised two states, one for the soon-to-be-called Palestinian population, one for the soon to be called palestinian population one for the uh the soon to be called
Starting point is 00:44:25 israeli population and you know that they didn't really deliver on that i believe there was an assassination of a british official i forgot and by an uh by a jewish like terrorist that assassinated him and the brits were like all right we're out of here you figure it out and they kind of they or they turned it over to the un they have have a war that is what is now Israel won. And like, that's it is what it is. That's one way to put it. It is what it is. But I mean, are you are you satisfied with what it is?
Starting point is 00:44:52 Sometimes I'm not satisfied and there's better ways that it can be. I mean, I could be satisfied, but like I could be satisfied or not satisfied, but it doesn't matter. Like states form on ethnic or religious grounds, like the Jewish people, both ethnically and religiously have formed in this location as their state. The challenges to their statehood being wars were lost. So like it exists.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Like, so once you've already been established, like that's it. You're a country. Yeah. And I should point out in case people are wondering, I've never asked to dissolute Israel in any form. I love Jew, Jewish. Everything about God is like what I'm into right now. Like a true Jew. I mean, that is like the essence of our Abrahamic faith.
Starting point is 00:45:30 That's where it comes from. But I would say the same thing if it was the Kurds, like, you know, a historic group that has been stateless, that has experienced like oppression, the Armenians, you know, they, I believe they form reformed their state in the nineties, right? Like I believe it's that recent, you know, they face oppression for the turks and i believe they were they might have been under the soviet union but i could be wrong about that like yeah and a bunch of states formed after the soviet union fell like you know brand new states but ukraine being one of them yeah so like i i would be like it's it's just how the world tends to work like historically and i think if they reshaped iraq and syria into a sunni shia and kurdish like three separate states that would also be a solid plan who is they
Starting point is 00:46:12 well i'm just saying if that's they separate it off yeah who is that yeah who is that we all know no but like if those groups can't live together and they separate like that's what happens like we live in a very american context where we're like, like, I live in New York City, Italian neighborhood, you know, or German signs, like in Astoria, Queens, like you see Steinway, it's a German sign. It's literally the most diverse place on planet Earth. When they did the human genome study, they did it right there because you have 170 plus languages.
Starting point is 00:46:42 That's beautiful. That's something that can work in the united states of america they can't work with two different religions in israel and gaza you're saying over there so you think mass diversity multiculturalism like that in new york you said yeah i said in the story like you have all these people living together perfectly fine like you know there's some problems but it's relatively fine by comparison story is pretty cool yeah it's where i had my first gyro. Yeah, in an American context. And you probably had it on a German named street because it used to be a German.
Starting point is 00:47:09 I live near Steinway. Yeah. I live on 31st. So like that can work. And we all expect that to work. And we think that our context in America can be applied over the history of the world. But let's not be dishonest about it.
Starting point is 00:47:20 We had conflict with the natives, conflict with black Americans, conflict amongst different European ethnic groups. And over time, we were able to work that out. These people are in their conflict phase, and it's greater than what we experienced. They're like constantly at war. We never had like an actual race war in the United States of America. We had a civil war. We had a civil war instead. Do you think Israel is going to have a civil war?
Starting point is 00:47:41 Inside Israel? No. But like with these, if they were to merge the countries, like, you know, absorb the population, these one staters who just want the Arabs to have the majority so that they can vote to kill the Jews, right. If they were to do that, that would lead to a civil war, which is what happened to start Israel. Like that territory, that was what that was. They just weren't a nation yet. With our, with our comeuppance is our, this, a nation that's given us the groundwork and stability to host 180 different cultures or whatever you were talking about in one city. Like we fought a civil war and it ended up with putting a ton of power in the central authority and the federal government after that,
Starting point is 00:48:13 like Abraham Lincoln just seized control and made it basically, that was the end of the Republic. If you want to ask some of the greatest minds or at least there was one guy who said that, uh, I kind of agree. The, the civil war is like,
Starting point is 00:48:24 we can't do this republic anymore. It's not working. We need a central authority. It's too big to have a republic is what they thought. And it's yet to be disproven because we're still together. But do countries need that
Starting point is 00:48:35 in order to support this forced integration? One of the things that I take a lot from Israel is Israel established itself as a nation. It hadn't been a nation previously, right? It also, I forget the guy's name, but the guy who basically said, Hebrew has not been a spoken language. We're gonna turn it into a spoken language.
Starting point is 00:48:54 And he said, we're only gonna speak Hebrew to our kids. And he resurrected Hebrew, right? And that's a pretty fascinating thing. He said, this is our culture and we're gonna make a place that our culture is and i look at america and we have you know growing up we all grew up in this country we had a really rich culture you could kind of understand it right you knew like what the cultural norms were there was a lot of there was baseball there was apple pie cooling on the windowsill these were whether these were our homes or not these were some of
Starting point is 00:49:23 the things that we looked to we had this idea of what it would be when we grew up in this country, we would be able to own a home. You know, if we wanted to do that, we would be able to go West and pursue our dreams. We'd be able to have families. You know, we expected that the cultural infrastructure would exist to teach our children about our history,
Starting point is 00:49:43 our language, our shared beliefs, our shared understanding, the social religion of kindness and generosity that basically exists regardless of what your religion is at home. And then we have had the past like, what, 30, 40 years of directly undermining that and cutting off our own culture at the knees and saying everything that America was built on is wrong. So everything that exists in America is wrong and needs to be dismantled. And I look at a country like Israel or like you're talking about ethnostates, and I think America doesn't have that. And that's a good thing. But why is it that we are destroying our culture and saying it's terrible
Starting point is 00:50:20 and replacing it with something that, you know, has a morality like shifting sand, where we can't stand on it. We can't send our children to any schools and expect that they will even be educated in our own history. Our institutions are no longer stewards of our culture. They're no longer stewards of our history. Like, why is it that we have so much to say about every other nation on earth and what they're doing, you know, and how they're treating their conflicts or whatever, when we have absolutely no interest in preserving or stewarding our country and keeping it, you know, keeping it whole. We just let it totally crumble. We just let it be attacked constantly.
Starting point is 00:50:59 I'm so sick of that. We used to have so much buy-in in America that people would not teach their children their native language from where they came from. Not because they wanted them to be uneducated. This is my great-grandparents. But because they wanted them to speak English. They wanted them to integrate into the country. You couldn't say a bad thing about America to any of my great-grandparents. And they were Italian.
Starting point is 00:51:19 They were Norwegian. And then there were the Yankees. And they were the same. I think a second language is super valuable. I wish I would have learned Spanish from my mother, but like that used to be the norm in America, German immigrants and throughout all of his Italian immigrants. And it's like, it wasn't like you were losing it
Starting point is 00:51:34 because you're being Americanized, which is considered so negative. It was, you were choosing to make sure your children were American. Like we, that is a special thing. You wanted it. You wanted American. That's a special buy-in that we
Starting point is 00:51:45 had in this country and like i you know i love america and i want other places to be more like it but i have to like deal with the practical reality that that's not the case i mean scotland and and uh what you got scotland and uh england they're on the same island britain they've fought for over petty differences forever and they're like, even though they're in one United Kingdom, they're still distinct peoples from one another. And they're as close as you can get to being the same. So like, this is,
Starting point is 00:52:12 this is just what people tend to do. And like, you know, we've tried to move past it here, but it's not something that everywhere in the world is ready for, especially not in the middle East, especially not in Israel and Gaza and what's the other one?
Starting point is 00:52:26 The West Bank. I think that one of the great things about America, though, because what you're saying is right, but we have 50 states and you can find what you're looking for if you move. You can't necessarily, it turns out. You can go to Wyoming. You can always go to Wyoming. You can always go to Wyoming. You can always go to Texas. I just left New York last year and I moved out here and I love it out here, but I have not found what I grew up with. But I find if you, you know, in the cities,
Starting point is 00:52:58 things are bad because Democrats run the cities and there's division and they're removing merit. They're ginning up the race issues, which we didn't have. When I grew up, Oprah, Bill Cosby, Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, Prince, Michael Jackson, they were the biggest stars in the world. Now we've become very divided. But the secret to America is that you just have to go where things are normal, where there's sanity. And that's the great thing about the country is that it's so huge.
Starting point is 00:53:32 It's so big. And I think another good thing that's happening is the way that we're atomizing the culture. Now that like this, what we're doing right here, this wasn't here 20 years ago. It was ABC, CBS, and NBC. And now people can find their own culture and be a part of that like they did for 10,000, 100,000 years of human history until mass culture came along. So the great thing about America,
Starting point is 00:53:57 you have the states and it's so big and so vast that you can't hide from it. And I've always said the Amish figured it out. The Amish knew what they were doing. They moved to the most rural parts of America. They unplugged from the mainframe and they held on to their culture. They also moved to like one of the only places in the United States where you can actually grow cocaine. You can like grow coca leaves there in Lancaster. That explains the work ethic.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Right? Yeah. Lancaster? What state's that in? It's in Pennsylvania. Just asking for a friend. Yeah. I grew up by Amish. Lancaster. That explains the word Catholic. Right? Yeah. Lancaster? What state's that in? It's in Pennsylvania. Just asking for a friend. Yeah. I grew up by Amish. Lancaster? I don't know. I'm not from there.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Maybe that's the British pronouncing. Lancaster instead of what Lancaster? Sounds like how John Lennon would say it. Lancaster. I'm going to go with Lancaster. It sounds more American. I grew up near the Amish. We used to make fun of those people growing up. I can say Worcester. I can say that okay. I knew some Amish people growing up and I would kind of just thought like, oh, I feel so sad for them. They're never going to get to play video games like me.
Starting point is 00:54:48 They have Roomspringa. They can do anything they want in Roomspringa. What's Roomspringa? It's like your gap year from being Amish. You get to go live in the world and check it out. It is Lancaster. Lancaster. Not Lancaster.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Did you guys know the Amish are really bad at solving murders? No. Their forensics are centuries behind. No, they got to figure it out. And that's what everybody can do. That's the great thing about this country is that you can unplug. You can remove yourself, and you can have your own culture. You're not always going to be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Eventually, the Democrats are going to win the Supreme Court, and it's all going to be over. That's the beginning of the end, and that's inevitable. Do you think that they're going to pack the court? I don't think they're going to win the Supreme Court and it's all going to be over. That's the beginning of the end and that's inevitable. Do you think that they're going to pack the court? I don't think they're going to have to. I think they're going to win enough elections. And then as soon as the Supreme Court is left wing, America is over. We're going to lose. All they need is five justices and it's going to be over.
Starting point is 00:55:37 So, but I don't know. Hopefully that won't happen in my lifetime. I'm glad I'm 58 instead of 28. Don't plant seeds of trees you don't want to see. That's a good point too. I'm concerned with that too, man. I don't like seeds of trees you don't want to see. That's a good point, too. I'm concerned with that, too, man. I don't like putting that immense amount of power in the hands of 13 people. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Or how many? Nine. Nine. Or nine. Nine dudes get to choose the fate of this. They're not all dudes. Yeah, well, everybody's a dude in my mind, but I know what you mean. But yeah, all these people, they're all cool dudes.
Starting point is 00:56:02 What's up, homies? Nine people? No, man, we need at least they're there to answer they're there to like answer the unsolvable questions right like that's what their job is hey congress passed this law or my state passed this law or this is a thing that happened is it in line with the constitution and their job is to say yes or no it's not in line with the constitution and it turns out their job is to decide whether or not to answer the questions that people Well, they don't have to answer all the questions.
Starting point is 00:56:28 You can't answer all the questions. Some of them, they let the lower court's rulings stand and they say, no, we're not going to go with that one. But what you talked about is what's happening to the Supreme Court. Right. All the standards, all the basic things that we agreed on, like what you talked about, they're going away. So you get a, what's her name?
Starting point is 00:56:43 Contangi Jackson Brown. Contangi Brown Jackson. Yeah're going away. So you get a, what's her name? Contangi Jackson Brown. Contangi Brown Jackson. Yeah, Contangi. She's who completely looks at rights, not from a human rights point of view, but from a racial point of view. Yeah, she looks at it in the oppression hierarchy. Exactly. So that's when the Supreme Court breaks down. You get five of her, we're done because she's going to rationalize every left wing thing. Take away the guns. Once we lose the guns, it's over.
Starting point is 00:57:08 So but in the meantime, think about the Amish. They got it all figured out. And we will lose on the Supreme Court because, you know, Republicans are 50 50 at best at appointing justices. And like, you know, a constitutional or textualist philosophy, they'll say, oh, political. They'll use political political questions doctrine to refuse to deal with something like that. But as soon as they have a majority, they're going to press on on all these issues, like, you know, Roe versus Wade, like they invented a right to privacy and added abortion into the right of privacy. Like, that's how we got that precedent. Yeah. And like that, there's a bunch of different
Starting point is 00:57:43 precedents where they're like, oh, well, you know, you have to adjust it. Like, you know, Ruth Bader Ginsburg would say the Constitution is a living document. It's like if you have a living constitution, it might as well be dead. Like we have an amendment process in order to make changes. And now we've gotten to a time where we're talking about the country resting on which nine people are on the Supreme Court. This was supposed to be the weakest branch of government. And it's now arguably the strongest behind the presidency, which is a complete inversion of how it's supposed to be. It was supposed to be Congress, president, court.
Starting point is 00:58:14 And then we kind of flipped that, although the president's powerful in other regards, more powerful. Well, Congress is just dysfunctional. Yeah, I was going to say they're the most powerful civil aspect of our government, the courts. But then I was like, well, Congress is civil, but they're not really. But I didn't want to make that joke because I like those people, some of them. Some of them? I mean, are they considered civilians, people that serve in Congress?
Starting point is 00:58:37 I would think so. That's our civilian. But the executive branch is not civilian. We call it a civilian government. Except the— Yeah, yeah, because the commander is supposed to be a civilian in that role of the commander of the military for the time well so you're talking about shall we move on then and and and talk about prophecy in the end of the world i would love to all right so there's an earthquake in new york now that we're rapidly
Starting point is 00:58:57 shifting off that was the longest segment we've ever done epicenter of the new york city new jersey earthquake was near trump national golf club ground shook very hard what a great quote i don't think near is fair i think at is a better way to put it so you have uh here's the image of the epicenter of the earthquake notice the highways here notice everything you can pull up trump's golf club it's literally right there it's there the trump golf club is the epicenter, thus proving Trump is either going to save humanity or condemn it.
Starting point is 00:59:28 What say you, panel? Do we have any reports of damage from Bedminster? I don't think there's any damage. I think a garbage can tipped over. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I think that they will rebuild. Just like Ruth Bader Ginsburg wants you to think the Constitution is alive, I think the Earth is alive. I think it is. I think at the very least
Starting point is 00:59:44 it's a lot of living organisms making up one big organism kind of like our bodies with all these living cells making up one living organism and i think this is not a coincidence so you're saying conscious rock the earth or at least sentient or something about watching msnbc too much yeah it was in taiwan and now it's at bedminster i mean mean, it could just be total coincidence. I just, the magnetic nature of the universe and earthquakes met lightning in the way that magma is magnetic and flows. And like, it's all kind of connected. I think Letitia James just filed a motion
Starting point is 01:00:14 saying he overvalued this property. Didn't write that it was on a fault line. So is it true though? No, because that's actually, some people were saying that Letitia James is threatening to bring up charges against Trump for the earthquake. But that he didn't.
Starting point is 01:00:26 He overvalued it. It actually makes sense. He said, never had an earthquake, 0% chance in a filing 20 years ago. And she's got them now. It's the Ramapo fault that goes under New Jersey. We live in a simulation. And the Mandela effect is because they can't erase all of our memories when the simulation changes. I'm kidding, by the way. But, like, it's just there's so many weird things that go on it's insane
Starting point is 01:00:50 yeah it was an earthquake i was like wow did you hear this this morning we were doing the show and like people are texting like there's an earthquake and then they're like oh and by the way it was like at trump trump's golf club are you before this oh we're gonna say i was gonna say put that in a book no one would believe it right yeah. You get a movie. No one would believe it. Stories in the Bible. When they write the history and they'll be like, shortly before Trump arrived at court for, you know, for this proceeding, there was an earthquake at his golf resort, which shocked the nation or whatever. And people are going to be like, no, come on. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Go on. They're embellishing everything. Announcing the arrival of the host. In the Bible, they'll talk about like great natural disasters wiping out unjust people i think was sodom and gomorrah they say that it i don't know what it was that destroyed the city an explosion i think it was built on a salt mine one of those cities so the fumes from sulfur caught fire and the whole place lit up i don't know exactly but what sodom and gomorrah yeah gomorrah smote them smote them yeah like god struck it down so i wonder i was thinking
Starting point is 01:01:43 last night like if there's some horrible tragedy about to occur on the planet earth and god steps in and stops it with a natural disaster like it would be horrible well here's a question i have i don't know if you guys have the answer for this how did god smote saddam and gomorrah smite smote is the past tense that's what i'm that's right because he smote them smote them smoted how did he smite i like smited that's the past he smate them there was such a path. That's the past tense. He smate them in such a path. It's two. Well, like he already did
Starting point is 01:02:08 something. How did he do it? So it's past tense. Wouldn't it be plural? Smeet? Smeet. How smitten were they? All right.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Sorry to interrupt you. My point was like, was it, does the Bible describe it as a miraculous destruction or did God use natural means to destroy them, right? Did, like,
Starting point is 01:02:24 did a volcano erupt and wipe them out or was it like a beam from the sky came in low orbit, ion cannon to them into oblivion? It was rains of sulfur and fire. Yeah, I don't think there's a natural disaster. That sounds like a natural disaster. That could be a natural disaster.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Rains of sulfur and fire. Yeah, they had salt mines. Well, wouldn't that be like, I mean, you could have, well, yeah, there were the salt mines and then Lot, his wife turned into salt because she looked back. Was that Gamora? Yeah, weren't they fleeing? Wasn't that be like, I mean, you could have, well, yeah, there were the salt mines and then Lot, his wife, turned into salt because she looked back. Was that Gamora? Yeah, weren't they fleeing? Wasn't that them?
Starting point is 01:02:48 I read, I watched something where they said it was a nuclear bomb. Oh, yeah, it was. Aliens nuked Sodom and Gomorrah because they were debaucherous and spreading disease. And the reason why they said do not look back or you'll turn to a pillar of salt is because she got vaporized by the shockwave. But that's one of those ancient aliens things. You know what I mean? Ancient alien theorists say yes. I'm not a earthquake expert.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I think they call them geologists. But is the epicenter- Seismologists. Oh, see, there we go. You don't even have that one. There we go. I said, I think. You're not a vocabularist either.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Is the epicenter the strongest point or just the origin point? So maybe Trump was shooting out the earthquake at his enemies because it did hit New York City. Like the eye of a hurricane. So Trump's in his underground lair and he's like, we're going to teach Letitia James a lesson. Activate the device. I mean, look at that quote. He's like, it shook very hard.
Starting point is 01:03:39 That has to be a Trump quote, right? Right. Very hard. The hardest. The hardest 4.2 earthquake you can imagine. It would have been every moment of it.
Starting point is 01:03:48 It would have been more, but then they reduced my bond amount. So I just threw him a little bit of a 4.something. So the reason I asked about whether Sodom and Gomorrah
Starting point is 01:03:56 was destroyed by natural means, like the question is when God takes an action, does it appear miraculous? Like a magical beam of light or a volcano erupts? I think it depends on the miracle.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I mean, if you look at the Bible. This is why I ask, because if it is God uses natural means, then is he smiting Trump? That's a good question. Or has he smoten or smote New York? I think Trump, like I said. What is the past tense of smite? I think that Trump, look at the electoral votes in New York and New York. I think Trump, like I said- What is the past tense of SMITE? I think that Trump, look at the electoral votes in New York and New Jersey. It is SMOTE. I was right. SMOTE.
Starting point is 01:04:32 SMOTE. No, I was right. Imagine if you were to break off those two states. Trump wins. Which states? New Jersey and New York. New York and New Jersey. Oh, yeah. You break them off into the ocean, Trump wins. So like I said, I think it's the Superman won plot and Trump is Lex Luthor. Trying to remove- That's right. Yeah. New York.
Starting point is 01:04:52 So now we're talking about super weapons, which we haven't- But you can't remove New York. You have to remove all of New England. Which is okay. Yeah. Is that Superman won or Superman returns? No, that's one. That's one.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Yeah. Yeah. Returns. Wasn't that where lex is trying to build a new island yeah and then it would it would flood the half the united states but that's that's the eastern half but that's not what he's oh yeah i'm referring to the lex luther in one in one he wanted to remove a state he was going to knock california into the ocean and then he would have all the beachfront property he knew exactly which is very Trumpian. Is that the original Superman?
Starting point is 01:05:25 That's so 70s. Was that like late 70s, early 80s? 70, 78. He bought all the property? That's such a sad version of Lex Luthor. Wow. The more modern versions are much better where he's just moon bases and stuff. The more modern version, he just thinks, he's kind of like
Starting point is 01:05:41 Dr. Doom. He thinks he's the only one who can save humanity and he should be in charge. He better than you so do you think these are could have been weapons you think these could be like geo weaponry i mean i threw out could be obviously i threw out the chinese super weapon early on yeah we had a split decision on the panel here and then i was like well with sort of american super weapon they did it in taiwan to make it look like the chinese now they do it to themselves or maybe they're just getting it this isn't on trump i mean oh trump false flagged himself with his own earthquake device to make it look like the Chinese. Now they do it to themselves or maybe they're just getting it. This isn't on Trump. I mean, oh, Trump false flagged himself with his own earthquake device
Starting point is 01:06:07 to make himself look like the victim. There you go. I don't know who's quaking. I mean, who's at the center of this? Which politician's favorite movie is The Core? Because I believe they were using an earthquake weapon and that caused the events of that film. Yeah, they stopped The Core from spinning because they were using earthquake weapons.
Starting point is 01:06:23 And then they had to go down and kickstart the core again. What if this was Jewish people digging a tunnel too deep? In Brooklyn. That proves it. With shovels. Tunnels in Brooklyn. Someone mentioned you yesterday, Tim, about the farmers in California having to suck the water out of like 20,000 feet down to get to the water table. And then that caused seismic disruption. It causes the whole city to sink. Wow. Pulling the water out of like 20 000 feet down to get to the water table and then that caused seismic disruption it causes the whole city to sink wow pulling the water out of the ground
Starting point is 01:06:49 sucking i've heard about that about oil obviously fracking can do that too well it's because the earth is flat and beneath the plane is the waters of the universe and they're pulling that out and sinking us to the bottom of of the dome that we're in that see that that proves it i i my question is we'll right that seriously. Is maybe like this much concrete is like the safest thing that you could have? Because remember Casey Neistat stuck a camera, like he pulled up a whole Brooklyn sidewalk
Starting point is 01:07:13 and it was just this much just separating it from the ground. Maybe that's enough. That's earthquake proof right there. I didn't hear anything about sidewalks collapsing in New York City. This was a pretty low one. I think it was 4.2.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Yeah, but the concrete's like this thin. I thought it was 4.8, right? 4.8. Which is pretty big for the East Coast. For the East Coast, yeah. But there's 7.5 in Taiwan. But they have more experience with it. And they only lost like 10 people in that.
Starting point is 01:07:35 I mean, buildings crashed onto themselves. Taiwan was crazy. Like a whole apartment building fell over. Yeah, that was wild. It's like a movie. They were commuting. So I guess a lot of people in those buildings were out and going to work it was like 9 a.m over there or something crazy yeah it was it was like nine o'clock in the morning i always think about like the if like if there were a real earthquake in new york because
Starting point is 01:07:57 there's a fault line that goes right under 23rd street that would be really bad for new york city well there's a fault line there that's only a matter of time. Yeah, it's dormant. It hasn't shook in quite a while. This was like the Ramapo fault, which was Jersey, obviously. But New York could not withstand a proper earthquake. No. Well, it could be a problem.
Starting point is 01:08:17 I know Haiti didn't have seismic activity for 200 years. And then all of a sudden that fault line, I forgot what it's called, activated. And they had just reinforced their buildings for hurricanes wow so they were concrete and all that and they were not earthquake proof at all so that's why so many people died in that earthquake 15 years ago which you know you know which one i'm referring to it must be the end of days gosh i wonder i can't believe someone remembered the plot of superman returns that was you i'm no that was you. No, I remember Superman Returns. Oh, did you?
Starting point is 01:08:46 That was impressive. I was, we were just talking, I was thinking like, God is going to say when you die, if you die, or when you speak with God, it'll be like, yeah, it was real, dude.
Starting point is 01:08:55 The whole time, I guess. Why did it take you 48 or 500 years, whatever long? Why did it take you so many years to figure that out? Why do you, why did you live your life? Like, just, like like you need it? Maybe not.
Starting point is 01:09:08 I want to give this lady a special shout out from the post-millennial. Woke New Jersey Senate candidate says earthquake is evidence the climate crisis is real. I died when I saw this tweet. Yo. I experienced my first earthquake in New Jersey. We never get earthquakes. The climate crisis is real. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:09:27 It's a cult. Oh, it's definitely a cult. It's definitely a cult. It called it the climate crisis is the culty part because there's a lot of crises in our climate at the moment. They keep changing. The culty part is being like the the sun is the pollution is causing earthquakes now. Yeah, it's I did.
Starting point is 01:09:44 I went back. I looked at every, uh, prediction, whether people, climatologists, geologists, whoever did,
Starting point is 01:09:52 did, did predict things. Terrible things are going to happen to, uh, the environment in some way we're going to run out of oil or we're going to run out of natural resources or overpopulation. And I went back to when I was born in 1966. I found 53.
Starting point is 01:10:07 And they are 0 in 53. Not one climate crisis, environmental crisis that these so-called experts have come up with has ever come true. And now they want us to believe number 54. And you got to be crazy to believe 54. Why would we believe? Who would believe someone who's 0 in 53? i wouldn't believe someone who's on two are you trying to say that you're willing to let us have earthquakes just so you cannot drive an electric vehicle
Starting point is 01:10:33 shame shame on you sir the um the climate predictions that lead to these what they call the climate crisis of the climate the big one the predictions are made without implementing mitigating factors i talked actually with ben shapiro about this ben's really knowledgeable about this too um because things change so they build a data and like if things continue as they are in 10 years we will be things don't they do not always you learn a new technology completely like the horse poop in new york they invented the automobile and it was completely like it was the biggest problem on earth when did greta thunberg she was like we have three years left or something
Starting point is 01:11:05 and then she deleted the tweet. Right. Yeah, she had to delete it. My view is, that was a load off my shoulders. I mean like, Were you worried about it? When she tweeted that out
Starting point is 01:11:14 and said we had like three years left, once we finally reached that point, I was just relieved. So I'm like, now it doesn't matter anymore. Exactly. I'm chill. We're done.
Starting point is 01:11:22 It's over. And they never say that. They never say that. It's like a meteor is right there in the sky about to hit us and take nothing we can do about it so i'm ready to party dude what i always think about when you know people freak out about the climate and they're like we have to do this and we have to change this about our lives and our our culture and our whole civilization to appease the weather gods so that they don't kill us it just seems so ancient you know it's like what we do what we do matters so much for the weather.
Starting point is 01:11:48 We must change everything we do to appease the gods of the weather. And that's what they were doing in the Middle Ages. How many tipping points or point of no returns have we passed by and they just like move the goalposts? That's right. I feel like I'm crazy sometimes. Like maybe it is a Mandela effect. I'm like, didn't we hit this when I was like 15 years old?
Starting point is 01:12:07 And people freak out. Like the kids are all freaking out. They're like, oh, I can't have children or a normal life because of the climate extinction rebellion. When I was in grade school, when I was probably like 10, they, we had in class, they told us that we would run out of oil by like 2010. Cause this was, this was the mid nineties.
Starting point is 01:12:22 They were like, oil is expected to run out at this point. And so we're getting worried about it. And I was like, whoa. And then like, here I am. Mitigating circumstance. They found new oil.
Starting point is 01:12:31 And then they wonder why you're a neurotic. Or they figured out how to use less oil in a combustive process. It's like the end of days syndrome. We just, humans always just want to believe
Starting point is 01:12:38 that we're at the absolute pinnacle of the end times. It's also, the way we measure like resources is whether or not it is, like an oil reserve is whether or not it's financially viable to tap it but the thing is is if you run out of the cheap easy oil to tap or it reduces then expensive oil like canadian tar sands or like venezuela has tar sands oil that becomes more economically viable so that goes into the reserves
Starting point is 01:13:02 so you can look at a map of like the countries with the greatest oil reserves and you'll see like randomly in like the 2010s when gas prices went up under Bush, Canada and Venezuela go to number one and number three on the list. And you're like, they didn't just find that oil. They always had it. It just was not the technology didn't exist. It was not viable. So to your point about how it doesn't measure like the change, it just says, if we continue at this rate and we have this much, this is why all those Malthusian economic predictions never come true. They're like, we have this many people, this much food is being grown.
Starting point is 01:13:34 It's like, yeah, but when there's more people, we think of, we try to make new strains. We'll be able to start making oil in laboratories. Like they're doing blue crude. We've already made that. Yeah. Like when you start, especially once you start 3d printing atomically into molecules, dude,
Starting point is 01:13:49 we don't need to find more. It's not about drilling anymore. It's really about what we're doing with the waste by-product of the burning of it. And that's turning it into carbon dioxide, graphene. And the solution is always leftism. The solution is always socialism. It's always more government,
Starting point is 01:14:02 less freedom. They never come up, you know, like if we found out that earthquakes were caused because there wasn't enough carbon in the air, they would never tell us that. If that's what we figured out, because no, we can't have more carbon in the air because then you'll enjoy your air conditioning. No, no, no. But they would. But then they would just make a reason why that means we need communism. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Or they would do that or they would hide it. They'd be like, oh, well, because of that, we have to put carbon. would do that or they would be like oh well because of that we have to put carbon everyone has to have a carbon vehicle so you need to sign up for this government program right everybody here's here's everybody we're going to central everybody has to have air conditioning everybody has to have a gas grill yeah that's what they would that means all of the newcomers that are coming in and staying at these shelters are going to need their own air conditioners and cars as well because it's a mandate to prevent the the catastrophe with earthquakes yeah it's always that's always the solution it's never more freedom
Starting point is 01:14:47 it's never just leave me the hell alone you can turn it into graphene the carbon which is this black powder it's just pure carbon hexagonal lattice carbon i don't have a diagram next to me but um pure carbon reusable put it in building materials make electronics out of it and stuff but the problem is if private companies start doing that we might take too much out of the air and then we'll start killing off the plant life. So we might need not a communist mandate, some sort of central mandate to make sure that we don't as a species eradicate our air supply. We won't. We'll just burn gas.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Create just overcharge our production. If there are news reports being like too much carbon is being taken out of the air, people are like, I guess I'll drive more. Hell yeah, dude. Turn up the air conditioning. It enhances so much of our society. Carbon. Our carbon-based love. What trees are made of.
Starting point is 01:15:36 And then the people that tell us that the oceans are going to rise, they move to the coast. That's my favorite one. That's Obama. rise they move to the coast that's my favorite one that's you know uh obama have you ever seen that video where the guy says i can i can debunk climate change right now very easily the banks banks are giving mortgages on on real estate miami beach right he's like if that if it were real all these banks would be legally required to have this like a red notice bold like this property will be inviolable in 30 years your investment will be zero and this loan will be dead yeah but they don't have to do that but what what if al gore's buying beachfront property just to be the first to say i told you so it's not
Starting point is 01:16:12 it's not hypocrisy what am i living the reason they're coming out and saying beachfront property is worthless it's going to be underwater is to drop the prices and buy it up then they can get cheap property just like lex luther that's kind of the lex luther thing yeah that's exactly it yeah wow that proves it that may be what trump's up to because the property in miami beach was shockingly cheap i mean it's relatively cheap these six 60 floor penthouses condos are like three thousand dollars a month to rent to rent three i thought they're gonna be six thousand i've but it's cheap i've played civilization i know what happens you build water barriers they build sea barriers they build
Starting point is 01:16:45 sea barriers that's exactly right when you're when so in so this is funny because the game civilization has climate change where the water's water levels rise and stuff and uh you you can build sea barriers around your cities that's all you gotta do that's it and then cnn is telling us that that the that the oceans are going to rise and what do they do they leave atlanta where they'd be safe and they move right to the edge of the water in New York. Or what you can do is do what Chicago did and just raise the whole city up. Yep.
Starting point is 01:17:12 How do they do it? They just built, like, it's crazy. When you go to Lower Wacker, it's all steel beams and pillars. But when you're on the upper level, it's just like you think you're on a street. Oh, I know. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:27 So it's crazy because like you go to New York and you like walk down the street. That has asphalt over gravel on dirt and bedrock and stuff. You go to Chicago and you're walking on the sidewalk and underneath you, you are walking on a bridge. And the whole city, like the whole, not the whole city, but this whole portion of the city. It's crazy. Well, in New York, underneath New York, in a lot of places, there's more New York. There's like buildings underground. They're not in use.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Oh, yeah. There's like abandoned railroad tracks with ghosts. There's all kinds of crazy stuff down there. Plus, if the planet warms, if that's true, that'll save lives. We'll have more food. More people die from the cold and the heat, and we figure it out. And then there's a solution to the Israel thing. When Antarctica melts, maybe all the Jews can move there.
Starting point is 01:18:07 There you go. Wow. Look, we've just solved all the problems. Okay. Climate change is saving us. Thank you for making peace in the Middle East. Making peace in the Middle East. I didn't believe in climate change before, but now I'm pro climate change.
Starting point is 01:18:19 We're watching it change before our eyes. Subtly, slowly, but it's changing always. But you can always rest assured that some crackpot leftists will have no idea what they're talking about and just say these things but uh okay also why does it say from earth on her tweet yeah i don't know she's clever she's cute but it's because she's not on earth and she like set her location she's on mars did she get community noted i can't see that did they know yes i think it's not here in the image but yeah it says new jersey says new jersey sits on a fault line has nothing
Starting point is 01:18:51 to do with climate change i love community notes i think the earth is like i'm a citizen of the world just so you know like she decided to go with that location it was a specific choice she's precious yeah the final point about climate change i'll make is that you know they'll talk they never talk about adaptation like we adapt to everything all different kind of circumstances and they're actually people who are like oh adapting to it is like accepting the problem and you're never going to change but it's like okay but you told me manhattan's going to be underwater like building a barrier to save one of the economic epicenters of the world seems like way smarter than relocating one of the economic epicenters of the world seems like way smarter than relocating one of the economic epicenters of the world.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Like how much does it cost to build a sea barrier versus moving Manhattan? Plus you'd have to go to war with China to get them to comply there. I mean, there's nothing we can do is going to change with China. My friends, none of this matters. The eclipse is coming.
Starting point is 01:19:42 And Rolling Stone says, the far right is crawling with eclipse conspiracy theories everyone has lost their gd mines and then they say blah blah blah blah blah what are the conspiracies what are they what is it do they even have any conspiracies here mbc is bringing back heroes again and this is all this is look at all this patter there's nothing even this article this is stupid they even okay well i this patter. There's nothing in this article. This is stupid. Okay, well, I'm going to give it to USA Today who actually showed us the conspiracies. Debunking misinformation conspiracy
Starting point is 01:20:10 sparked by 2024 solar eclipse. All right, you ready for this one? First, CERN will start up April 8th to open a portal during the eclipse. False. No, no. I've not heard anyone claim they want to open a portal. This is what they do. What natural byproduct of CERN.
Starting point is 01:20:26 This is what they do. What is true is that CERN is going to be operating the Large Engine Collider on April 8th. The post is wrong about both the timing and the nature of CERN's work. CERN's equipment began operating in March, a month before the eclipse, and the technology is nowhere near strong enough to open a portal or a black hole. They don't know that. That's wrong. That's wrong.
Starting point is 01:20:41 As far as they know. CERN has, I'm pretty sure, okay, I got a fact to this one, but I'm pretty sure CERN's fact of this one but i'm pretty sure cern's been able to make black holes that was the plot of superman returns wasn't it building black holes they should be doing this in magnetic confinement okay i'm wrong yeah they can't make them i thought they could but uh uh okay all right we'll give them that one but the what people have been pointing out is that cern is operating on apr 8th. What they do is they add this nonsense to open a portal so they can call it false. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Right. April. It's also, hold on. They're like, they started operating in March. It's like, well, these are like some of the smartest people in the world. You think they don't know what eclipse schedule? Like that is not, that does not address the point. I can tell you.
Starting point is 01:21:20 There's not even eclipse over CERN. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. April 8th solar eclipse will cause three to five days of darkness false who claimed that okay whatever now here's what i love this because i saw this and i was like wait wait how do they say this is false it says nasa is launching three rockets at three moons during the eclipse false nasa is launching three rockets to study the eclipse but not at three moons because we only have one who said we had three i think they make these things up do they say where the claim came from do they link to
Starting point is 01:21:49 like even some errant tweets somewhere or are they launching maybe phobos and what is this three rockets what is this who said it i mean it's easy a march 30th facebook video shows a man talking about nasa's plants they grab some random yokel on Facebook and they're like, better run this one. Creating this far right category thing. Eclipse crosses seven cities named Nineveh and crosses 2017 eclipse path in Little Egypt. They say it's partly false. There's two, two Ninevehs, not seven. I heard that one, but that's not a conspiracy theory in any way.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Is that what they're saying? Is these are conspiracy theories? Here we go. Wrong information. A bird man was seen days before the eclipse. The photo of a silhouette in the sky has circulated online since November. Wow, that's good. Three rockets being launched by NASA are part of a sex magic ritual.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Wow. That I believe. You know that for sure. Yeah, it makes sense. Well, they named the rockets APAP. Did you know that? They named it what? They named the rockets the APAP rockets.
Starting point is 01:22:50 APAP is the Egyptian god who chases the sun and defeats it every day. Oh, defeats it. Oh, I see. Yeah, like, I don't know. Like, Mouse was saying, Michael Mouse was saying that he eats it. I don't know that he eats it. Yeah, it's like a snake that eats the end of his tail every day or something. He battles Ra and defeats Ra every day. And then Ra strikes back in the morning.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Wow. That's just. Yeah, no joke. These guys are into the occult for sure. If they're naming the rockets after Egyptian gods. Yeah, that's definitely occultish behavior. Definitely. And I say the occult, but there's more than one occult.
Starting point is 01:23:16 There's a lot of occultish, you know, thoughts. The occult eye. And you can't have occult without it. You can't have occult without it. That one on the bottom is the best one. Which one? Right there. The last one
Starting point is 01:23:31 claims sun and moon will not be aligned for 2024 eclipse rating false they will yeah so i guess we had an annular eclipse which is where um the moon is further away from the sun so it from the earth so it doesn't cover the sun completely and then you know you can actually see the sun and then we're having now is a total eclipse where the moon is close to the earth so it doesn't cover the sun completely and then you can actually see the sun. And then we're having now as a total eclipse where the moon is close to the sun so it looks bigger and it's going to block the whole thing. That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's going to be cool. I guess we should do something for it. What people misunderstand is that what they're wrong about with CERN
Starting point is 01:23:55 is that CERN's not firing up to open a portal during the eclipse. The issue is that when the sun and the moon align, it creates a portal. CERN is firing up to create a a force field to protect the earth from the demon hordes that come now you're talking that's true that's right that's true why didn't usa today someone wants to be in usa today i think these these suns these stars can are like magnifying lenses for energy that can come at you
Starting point is 01:24:23 right through them and it accelerates it. When I think about super acceleration through the universe through warp drive or things like that. I picture aiming at a black hole, hitting it as fast as you can right through the center. It's a charged black hole and then it spits you out the other side at light speed. And then as soon as you get close to a sun
Starting point is 01:24:40 or some other magnetic thing, it slows you down and you come back to normal space. So I don't know if that's going to, if there's something going on here with magic and magnetics and energy. That proves it. Because they're firing rockets that measure disturbance in atmosphere on a time when the moon is blocking the sun.
Starting point is 01:24:56 So there's a reason they want to test the disturbance when the sun is blocked out magnetically or whatever kind of disturbances they're looking for. I just want to see Trump stare at the eclipse again. Yeah, that's a good one. That's the funny thing, because they loved attacking him for it. He glanced at it briefly.
Starting point is 01:25:09 I know. And they're like, he looked at it. He looked at it, everybody. He's so dumb. It's like, dude, you can't. That's what normal people would do. Everybody does that.
Starting point is 01:25:16 But that's not, the issue is that people stare at the eclipse. Not that you look up for a second and go, oh, look, there's an eclipse. Yeah. You know, not on the list of theories is that the Earth Kingdom's going to invade the Fire nation on that day that's true yeah also ian stares at the sun yeah gaze rather i'd like to say instead of stare but what you do is called
Starting point is 01:25:33 sun gazing it's an ancient thousand year old definitely do not listen to him do not do this well listen i'm not telling you to do it just listen it's on tim katz irl is not a medical show through the ages they've done this practice called sun gazing, where when the sun is very low to the horizon in the morning or in the evening, you let it in and it hits the back of your eye and it kind of stretches and builds the muscles in your eye. And as long as you're not focusing your eyes right on the really hot burning thing, you're not going to burn it. You kind of like let it. You don't really even necessarily look at it. You let the sun into the back of your eye and wash over the retina. I found that it melts away the floaty things.
Starting point is 01:26:04 You ever get those things that float in your eye floaters they melt away when you sun gaze at least i found they melted mine away and also my vision got better when i was away from the computer gazing at the sun because it was like lasik he was looking around the sun he was singeing the ring of quis cornea you might want to repeat yeah i gotta go, it was wild. Nuts. Sungazing is the practice of looking directly at the sun. It is the unsafe practice. That's what it says. It's like raw milk. Of looking directly at the sun.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Oh, sure. It's like the raw milk of healing yourself. It's done as a spiritual or religious practice, most often dawn or dusk. The human eye is very sensitive, and exposure to direct sunlight can lead to solar retinopathy. How do you pronounce this? Pterygium, cataracts, and exposure to direct sunlight can lead to solar retinopathy. How do you pronounce this? Pterygium, cataracts, and potentially blindness.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Studies have shown that even when viewing a solar eclipse, the eye can still be exposed to harmful levels of ultraviolet radiation. Sungazing is a lot like playing with fire. I would not recommend that somebody just go do it. Like, if you focus your eye... Don't try this at home. What's that? Don't try this at home.
Starting point is 01:27:01 No, no, no. Talk to a doctor. But it is an ancient practice. I'll tell you not to do it. And if you focus your eye on the sun, man, rock your do not do that you do not focus your eye on it like that is when you lose don't stare at the sun ever for any reason it's not the gaze that's why they call it gazing instead of staring because you're really not focused on the sun you're focused in the direction of it letting the light hit the back of your eye there's also people that
Starting point is 01:27:20 they do what do they call it butt sunning or whatever oh yeah sun balling or something what is they they get naked and then you hold your legs up in the air so the sun can hit your crack because they're like it's the one part of the body that never gets sun you know i'm 58 years old i've had hbo for 40 years i never heard any of this stuff it's just amazing yeah there's like people on instagram and they have pictures where it's like a guy and a woman and they'll be naked like you won't see anything and they'll be naked. Like you won't see anything, but you'll see the people with the sun in the horizon and they're spreading their legs open.
Starting point is 01:27:51 And they do that thing where they have the lasers. You know what I'm talking about? People put the red light on their balls or whatever. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh yeah, I have heard that. Also icing your balls apparently. It's called the perineum sunning. Don't do that red light thing if you have a cat.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Luke Rutkowski was telling me about icing your balls luke was saying about icing your last week he was telling me about it it's like apparently it's great for you people do it if you can do it right and you do it you know it can help semen production i don't i don't even think like i've been looking into the ice bath stuff i don't think i'm gonna do it it sounds like it's stupid it does seem kind of dumb yeah i'm not doing that well it inhibits protein synthesis. Yeah, I'm not doing that. And they're like, what does it do? Okay, so it basically causes all your blood vessels to constrict, squeeze out lactic acid,
Starting point is 01:28:31 and it reduces your recovery time while stopping the recovery process. And I'm like, okay. So your recovery time ends because you stop recovering. You jump in ice. Your body stops healing. What was the point of working out in the first place? What's the plus? I don't know. Yeah, you want to do it was the point of working out in the first place? What's the plus? Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Yeah, you wanna do it when you're not working out. If you wanna build muscle, don't do it cause it'll inhibit muscle growth. But why do it at all if you're not working out? What's the point? I think because it sends your body into a shock protein state where it starts to go into like your immune system kicks on
Starting point is 01:29:01 and it starts cleaning up the body. Shock proteins, check those out. And Rhonda Patrick does a lot on shock proteins and temperatures and fasting. Fasting has a similar result of shock protein synthesis, I think is the case. But Rhonda Patrick's the doctor to listen to on that. Wouldn't you rather just watch TV than jump in the-
Starting point is 01:29:21 It's really good. Well, there's the ice bath I've never done. There's the cold plunge I've done. Those are great. Those, I actually actually craved like it was a food i've never in my life this has never happened before i wanted to eat it the next day i that cold plunge affected my body so much the next day i was hungry for it my stomach wanted it what was the food a cold plunge oh a wild feeling what yeah my body was literally i was having hunger cravings for the cold plunge really yeah wow but is that a good thing i think so it felt like a man let's get another meal let's
Starting point is 01:29:52 go yeah ian skipped all of his workouts this week no i worked out today by myself for about 25 minutes well he skipped the three training sessions yeah but i did get my license or started to my driver's license i have no you drive again putting that off for a while yeah i know a lot of people who can't drive for some reason. I just, COVID freaked me out. I didn't want to go in there with my mask and sit around and wait. And my license had expired. So I was just like, I work from home.
Starting point is 01:30:12 I Uber everywhere. It was relatively convenient. I would get rides, but it was a burden. It became a burden. You couldn't update online because of the COVID thing? Yeah, that's what I did, I'm pretty sure. No, it was stolen in South America like five years ago. And it just lapped so long that I had to go get it take the test again i took the test tell you about that
Starting point is 01:30:27 that was wild i i updated mine online during covid and i was supposed to retake a picture but i didn't have to so i have like 17 year old me on my driver's license yeah you should see mine my hair's all brown it's still there because i had a i got my like non-driver's id and they took a picture of that and then i used, and I got a learner's permit. And I had the learner's permit for 10 years before I got my license. And I got my license on literally the last- Which means you got it twice, because it's five years. No, I never had a license before that.
Starting point is 01:30:56 No, I meant the permit. You have to get it twice, so you renewed it. No, they gave it to me for nine years. Oh. Yeah. Oh, here? No, in New York. Because my brother had it.
Starting point is 01:31:05 He knew it. Same deal. But I got it on the very last day that it was possible, which was my 45th birthday. I think Arizona is like 50 years. Your license is a good four. Really? That's nice. That's some insane amount of time.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Don't they want to update your picture? Because, I mean, you're going to look a lot different at 70 than 20. I don't know, man. Maybe it's... I could have sworn someone showed me an Arizonarizona id that's awesome i'm my my my first um what's the passport id i look like this hippie dude i didn't care about and i was just like full flow they expire on your 65th birthday and then as the years went on my pictures became more and more sad like you can see the pain of reality kicking in but you do need to update your photo every 12 years and the license doesn't expire until you're 65.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Wow. Well, that makes sense. That makes sense. That's crazy. It's going to be my first real ID. Do you know what kind of tracking mechanisms
Starting point is 01:31:51 these things have? Isn't it like biometric data or something like that? I don't know. They're probably just RFID. I think the main point of RFID, of real ID
Starting point is 01:32:00 was so that there was one national database for all IDs from all states. Basically stripping you of your sovereignty and destroying states rights and making it so i don't have to spend nine days getting people to mail things to that guy to that guy to that guy every time i move states which will be the upside and then the best part is in 50 years they're gonna do the same thing with nato and then you're gonna have to get your updated nato real id
Starting point is 01:32:20 so that we can have one database between france the uk new york illinois we got to call something other than nato though i'm down with a one world government as long as it doesn't have much strength like if we have the state's rights still but there's like a central authority that's like weak yeah but like i was watching this watching this commercial and there's this lady singing about taking some drug for her a1c or something what is a1c i don't know but my girlfriend was like i hate this commercial and i1C? I don't know, but my girlfriend was like, I hate this commercial. And I was like, see, now don't you understand Bill Gates?
Starting point is 01:32:47 He's sitting here watching these Osempic commercials and he's just thinking to himself, like, they all must go. I'm like, wow, you know, I can't blame him. I saw the same commercial. Logan's are on.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Yeah, Logan's are on. I was thinking, I actually mentioned this, the suicide pods in Canada, this maid program and things. And I'm like, we were joking, we were kind of talking about like,
Starting point is 01:33:04 well, what's he going to do? And I was like, well, it'll also lower the chance of them having a revolution because a lot of those angry young men that normally go to war end up going to the pod and yeah what's going to happen is they're going to they're going to they're going to capture some young rebellious man and then they're going to come out and be like unfortunately he opted for the suicide booth exactly well i'm thinking more less than fair is that instead of becoming rebellious they'll just become depressed and suicidal. Society will point them in that direction because they don't want them to become enraged.
Starting point is 01:33:29 They know it's bad. They're just like, I'll just cut their balls off. It's kind of happening in this country with the drugs. You know, you have a lot of people, it may not be a suicide, but suicides are way up.
Starting point is 01:33:39 Drug deaths are way up. And it's all sort of this cultural attack on the working people. Yeah, it of this cultural attack on the working people. Yeah, it is a cultural attack on the working people. And they're just being replaced with cheap immigrants. Yeah, and you hear stories too where I live about people, they have pride. Things aren't going well. And then the government will come in and say, no, you got to get these food stamps.
Starting point is 01:34:02 You got to get the welfare. You got to put fluoride in your drinking water. This is what's best for you. This is what's best for you. And then you create a dependent class out of it. We don't have fluoride in our drinking water. It's some of the best drinking water. It just comes straight out of the ground.
Starting point is 01:34:15 I've ever had in my life. And it's a- The well water. We have two nine stage filters. We have a basic one and then we have one for the sink. So it goes through twice. The last one adds minerals back into it because you don't want to have the stripped water whatever but uh yeah no fluoride we take we add potassium i think you need potassium if you get if you get well water you need to add that because
Starting point is 01:34:35 otherwise you won't have potassium you can't just eat a bunch of bananas you can eat a bunch of bananas too if you want to do that there is an amount of bananas you can eat that will give you radiation poisoning oh no, no way. But you will die from eating the bananas before you get radiation poisoning. How many? I love bananas. Roughly how many?
Starting point is 01:34:51 Is it like a thousand or? It's probably some absurd number. I'm a big, I eat way too much fruit. You ever hear the story about the guy, you ever hear the story about the guy who died from eating too many red lobster biscuits? Gross, gross.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Apparently, it's like an urban legend. I don't know if it's true, but he was like sitting, he was waiting for a friend or something and so they gave him a thing of biscuits the cheddar biscuits
Starting point is 01:35:08 and he ate them and he just annihilated the whole basket and then they were like they're endless so he's like I'll get another one and then someone said
Starting point is 01:35:14 like man you could break the record and then he was like I could break the record and then he died wow from eating too many biscuits I don't know if anyone's
Starting point is 01:35:21 going to get this reference but did they offer him a very thin mint I vaguely get it Monty Python meeting the light the guy explodes at the end I don't know if anyone's going to get this reference, but did they offer him a very thin mint? I vaguely get it. Monty Python, Meaning of Life. The guy explodes at the end. I thought that wasn't funny.
Starting point is 01:35:32 I hate being old. I vaguely remember. The thin mint was the last thing. Just a thin mint, sir. And then he just explodes. It's probably getting old. I don't know the new references, and nobody knows mine. I saw the Monty Python Quest for the Holy Grail.
Starting point is 01:35:46 One of my favorite movies of all time. It's so good. But then I saw Life of Brian and the one you just mentioned. Meaning of Life. Meaning of Life. And I didn't laugh much at all. You didn't laugh at Life of Brian?
Starting point is 01:35:53 Well, I tried to watch it and I stopped. Oh my gosh. All right, let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends,
Starting point is 01:36:00 head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member to support the show because this show is made possible thanks to partners and viewers like you. And now I'll just read your super chats. Not that we're running out of time here. Nyan Cat says,
Starting point is 01:36:10 Hello, world. Hello, Nyan Cat. I remember you. That was fun. Who's Nyan Cat? What? Nyan Cat. You don't know Nyan Cat?
Starting point is 01:36:17 No. You know the Nyan Cat. Oh, now I know who you're talking about. The rainbow, the rainbow pixelated cat. The Pop-Tart. Yeah. The Pop-Tart Cat. I think I might know what you're talking about now The rainbow pixelated cat. The Pop-Tart. Yeah. The Pop-Tart cat.
Starting point is 01:36:26 I think I might know what you're talking about now. That's a reference I'm too old for. All right. Barely a Millennial says, woke up on Easter to the voice of God in my head saying, if you smoke one more cigarette, you'll get lung cancer. Stop now. It was pretty scary, and I haven't had one since. Oh, well done.
Starting point is 01:36:40 Demons don't give up that easy, though, constantly nudging. Well done, though. Absolutely. And don't give up that easy though constantly nudging well done though absolutely and don't give in to the demons they're going to be clawing at you and screaming in your face but do not give in do that you can do it awesome should celebrate with a cigar oh my goodness don't listen
Starting point is 01:36:56 to me over here it changes your DNA T-Bomb says I have the one they call Clint Torres health captive submit to my demands if you want to hear howdy people again, boobies. Okay. They didn't give us any demands.
Starting point is 01:37:08 There's no demand there. Yeah. I demand you supply me a demand. Okay. Someone's making fun of Lizzo and a salty bag of nuts says my wife is a vet. She is very informed about bird flu and is very worried. If any animal tests positive, they are put down as well as all animals on the property how do you think this will affect farms yeah they're gonna
Starting point is 01:37:29 you're gonna eat the bugs and you'll be happy this happened so here's chickens recently that's why i like texas or something yeah okay here's what you do all right here's what you do all right if you want people to eat the bugs and be happy first you take the beef the chicken the lamb all of it away okay then you say always got his bugs and they're upset but then you take the bugs away let them starve for a little bit then they'll eat mud then you give them the bugs back and they'll thank you and they're grateful yeah then you're just grateful say thank you sir we are thankful for the bugs they will be happy juan castle says tim enough of the shenanigans. Bring on the Donald.
Starting point is 01:38:08 Yes, perhaps. Episode 1000 is coming up, guys. Yeah. That would be cool. Eclipse Day is episode 999. Oh, wild. Don's the guy who'd be like, for episode 1000, I'll do it.
Starting point is 01:38:22 Completely arbitrary. I love it. But it means something all right the last campaign says did you hear about the tarrant county central appraisal district in texas getting hacked the website has been down for weeks and they are apparently holding homeowners information ransom 700k i did not know that dj bell says, as a born and raised Californian, a 4.8 isn't even worth talking about. Yeah, I was in something comparable in Virginia.
Starting point is 01:38:52 We were sitting in my friend's living room and there was a cup on the coffee table and we saw the rings in it. And then we were like, is there an earthquake? And then we were like, I don't know. And then we went on the internet and looked. They're like, oh yeah, look at that. There's an earthquake. I was at were like, I don't know. And then we went on the internet and looked like, Oh yeah,
Starting point is 01:39:06 look at that. There's an earthquake. Oh, I was at this one in LA, this earthquake. I was sitting in a restaurant and it started to shake. And I was like really in like a spiritual, like God mode.
Starting point is 01:39:14 And it was like, just pray with the earth. And I stayed really calm and breathe and then slowed down and stopped. I was like, maybe I was in part of that or not. I don't know, but I didn't panic. I lived in East LA.
Starting point is 01:39:24 I lived in East LA for about nine years. And we didn't know if it was an of that or not. I don't know, but I didn't panic. I lived in East L.A. for about nine years, and we didn't know if it was an earthquake or a helicopter. Sometimes it's just a little helicopter looking for the crypts and the bloods. But after a while, he just got used to it. He just turned up the TV. The biggest plot twist in Tim's story is it wasn't an earthquake. It was actually a T-Rex. From the past.
Starting point is 01:39:44 The story was pretty crazy. was at jurassic park you know he was the he was the the scientist he was that kid so uh justin partos has first time chatting a bit of self congratulations for my kids clothing line psyched kids clothing just got approved on public square i post new designs every three weeks come check check it out. Love you, Ian. Oh, that's awesome, dude. What's the store called? Psyched Kids Clothing. Nice. So Taylor Silverman brought this up to me, and we are massively winning the culture war. I just got to tell you.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Something called AWH, Skateboard Distribution, is on Public Square, and I was really surprised to find out. One of the largest distributors of skateboard equipment boards etc so this is like a massive chunk of the skate industry being on public square is it that's huge and then this is really really amazing as well let me see if i can pull this one up to see if i can find this i can't believe this flip skateboards is on uh public square one of the biggest and most notable skate companies in the world is on Public Square. Yo, we're winning like crazy. Guys, sign up
Starting point is 01:40:50 for Public Square. Download the Public Square app. That's amazing. Yeah, basically, if you don't like that Bezos does what Bezos does and Amazon does what they're doing, Public Square is this alternate marketplace, and i hope that public square
Starting point is 01:41:07 becomes the new amazon where you got to believe in american values and and before you can uh you know so you sell yeah yeah yeah you don't want any of that weird you know the issue for the issue uh with it for me is most of these companies don't know or care they're simply saying what's what's the trending thing tell me what to say and i'll say it i don't know or care they're simply saying what's what's the trending thing tell me what to say and i'll say it i don't want those weak spineless that we spineless garbage right you go to public square these companies are like no i believe in america i believe in family i believe in my values and i'm like okay i respect that they're they're saying before they even sell you the product they know what they believe in why they do what they do these other
Starting point is 01:41:39 companies are just like look man i don't know i don't care i'll just say whatever i have to say and i'm like yeah you're spineless can other companies anybody sign up for public square any company there's a thing that says like you by signing up you agree with these things and says like i i support the family i support the first amendment rights that's awesome it's great i love it is there a way you can get kicked out is there something they can do there's probably terms i would think but i don't have the answer but yeah i would imagine would imagine. If not, that's a big problem. Yeah. Because then you should reserve the right. Then you just have to sound sincere.
Starting point is 01:42:08 That's crazy. But I'll give a shout out to Reliance Skateboards. They're on Public Square as well. And who else is on here? There's a lot more stuff on here than the last time I checked it out. It's cool. I know. It's so awesome seeing Public Square grow.
Starting point is 01:42:23 And you'll start seeing companies like disney on there that's when you know you've won because they'll just say yes on the i fully agree with the united states and eat those united states and they'll say yes anyway just to make money yeah and then they're starting to agree and and meme into the the new way if they they just need to be kicked out if they if they sign because they're lying big dis no let them lie yeah let them lie and then if they violate those those those like clear if they do these things and you can say like hey you lied but i'm like we get to the point where people who are not political are just like oh yeah sure i like trump that means we're winning that's true they believe history is on the side of we're on the right side
Starting point is 01:43:00 of history i think this from public square let me just tell you guys you don't know anything about skate point other than awh distribution is one of the largest so the way it works is we're on the right side of history. I think this from Public Square, let me just tell you guys, you don't gotta know anything about Skateboarding other than AWH distribution is one of the largest. So the way it works is like skate shops have distributors who collect all of the gear, boards, clothes, all this stuff. And then they order directly from a warehouse. This is one of the biggest.
Starting point is 01:43:18 So, and Flip Skateboards, Jeff Rowley, Tom Penny, who else is, I haven't followed their team in a long time but these are jeff rallies in the tony hawk video game series so this is as popular and mainstream olympic level stuff as you can get and this means that they're publicly when you go on when your company's on public square you're making a public statement about your politics that is epic shout out to flip shout out to awh people a bunch of uh pro skateboarders have been complaining skateboarding's woke and it's weak and like i think skateboarding should not be weak yeah it's sort of a tough it's one of those grinding sports you can do you know i i think
Starting point is 01:43:55 skate skateboarders are the lowest tier professional athletes and the reason for it is they don't take care of themselves they drink they smoke they do drugs uh they don't like they don't act like athletes like you look at gymnasts and it's like they've got personal trainers and the trainers being like today you're gonna do you know calf stretches and then you're gonna do squats because that's gonna improve when you do this skateboarders are like i woke up at 3 p.m pulled a burrito out of the fridge at five we're gonna go skate with the guys i'm gonna bring some beers they act like artists yeah yeah yeah yeah true yep andrea viola says tim i was gifted the line of casper as coffee and i was gifted the line of casper as coffee is my thing and i am somewhat a coffee snob it is absolutely fantastic bravo my new fave thank
Starting point is 01:44:45 you very much i gotta say like they're good like uh rise with roberto jr was first my favorite and then appalachian nights is the only thing i want to drink i don't know why it's so good it's my favorite one it's crazy how good appalachian nights it's and this is not even an opinion we we struggle to keep it in stock it wasn't even the one that we were promoting the when we launched we were promoting the the when we launched we were like rise with roberto jr breakfast blend will be our signature like that's why we put the rooster on it and then appalachian nights like well we just need like i was like i personally like a good dark roast as long as it's not burned or anything and then
Starting point is 01:45:16 when you look at the website the reason the first one that appears everywhere is because the highest selling and it's always selling out it could be because it's starts with an a so it's at the top alphabetically also it's the best brand it's the best title the appalachian knights is so awesome yeah it's a good yeah it's a good it's a good name there you go very good we we hit that one out of the park uh it's the only one i would drink i like i go we go anywhere i'm like this coffee sucks like once what i i i forgive me because it is a curse when you buy this yeah you taste it it is so delicious. You'll never want to drink anything else again.
Starting point is 01:45:50 I've not, cause I was a huge pumpkin spice fan, but now I'm, I'm ready to kind of put that down. I had coffee here this morning. I don't know what it was, but I drank it black and I usually drink it with milk and sugar. I'm assuming it's your brand at your, your, your place. It probably was Appalachian nights. Stand your grounds, a medium roast. And it's, and it's supposed to have like the same flavor profile. So it's supposed to be very similar,
Starting point is 01:46:05 but it'll be a little higher caffeine and medium. But yeah, I don't know, man. Like you go to the website and it's always sold out. And so we told our distributor, just like, just do it. Just make whatever. We can't keep it in stock. The bag really looks like what it looks like out there at night.
Starting point is 01:46:20 It's wild. Like we're in Appalachian, you know? That's right. Like you see those, the mountains are a little darker than the dark sky behind them. Or is it the sky that's darker? I can't tell. The mountains are beautiful.
Starting point is 01:46:29 Moving out here from Jersey and I look out my window and I see mountains. Yeah, the mountains are gorgeous. Salt Lake City is better. You guys ever been to Salt Lake City? I've never been to Utah. Oh man, real mountains.
Starting point is 01:46:41 I've been to the Rockies. I mean, I've spent a bunch of time in Colorado. That's cool. But we got good mountains up here. They're just covered in trees, you know? Well, they're old mountains. I've been to the Rockies. I mean, I've spent a bunch of time in Colorado. That's cool. But we got good mountains up here. They're just covered in trees, you know? Well, they're old mountains. That's why they're soft and a little rounder. You know, they've been out here for a lot longer than the Rockies.
Starting point is 01:46:54 They were spared from the flood. Yeah, and they've been tamped down. I heard someone describe the mountains in Utah that a panther set its paw down. Oh, Salt Lake. What happened was the flood. i think this is what happened 11 800 years ago this younger driest period the comets hit north american glacier in addition to a bunch of other things but there's a global flood crushed north america created the grand it looks like created the grand you can see all the striation marks when you zoom out on the map and watch over there's where it started that's the erosion and it dumps all this salt into's the erosion. And it dumps all this salt
Starting point is 01:47:26 into Salt Lake. Right there. It just dumps all this salt. It hits this basin and leaves this salt basin behind it. Yeah, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:47:33 Alan Cardinal says, Tim and Ian, can you wish Jill, my mother, happy birthday? She's your biggest fan. Happy birthday, Jill. Happy birthday, Jill.
Starting point is 01:47:41 Thanks for watching the show. Big day. Happy birthday. Purple says, people are acting like there isn't one innocent person in Gaza. Well, that's an interesting conundrum. That's like Sodom and Gomorrah.
Starting point is 01:47:51 If there's one righteous person in Gaza, then they must spare it. Well, actually, God, you know, they had the whole negotiation. Right. And God was like, you know,
Starting point is 01:48:00 they got him down to 10. And it's like, yeah, if there's 10 good men. Got him to one. Yeah, but there was one and the angels went and they hung out with Lot, right? They pulled the good people from the city. And they took the one guy out.
Starting point is 01:48:13 They were like, we won't spare the city for one guy. We'll spare the guy, but not the city. Oh, right, right, right, right, right. So they did not spare the city for one guy. So if you can go in and get those righteous people out, I suppose biblically, then it's fine? Is that what the argument is? No, it's just, no no it's just if if there's less than 10 ah biblically there are innocent people but there's of course many more of course there are yeah i'm just going with the story israel is
Starting point is 01:48:36 probably doing more than any country in history to try and protect them so banana watch super chatted i think one two three four five six seven eight nine ten israel funded israel funded hamas Try and protect them. So Banana Watch superchatted, I think, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Israel funded Hamas. Israel funded Hamas. Long term. Wait a minute. Say that again. Long range missile.
Starting point is 01:48:51 Okay, so Banana Watch said in numerous superchats, Israel funded Hamas. Israel funded Hamas. That I was told by Scott Horton. I don't know if it's true or not. But I heard that they built it to counter oppose the PLO to make the two state solution more challenging for them. And then they had like two enemies that hated each other. Could be wrong.
Starting point is 01:49:12 I don't know. I've heard this, but I've seen destiny go over this, you know, on his Wikipedia. He's been criticized for. And essentially some some people are arguing that what, that's the government over there. And Israel has to transfer aid. And they stopped transferring it through the PLO, who would just transfer it to this other body. And, like, money would go missing out on the way. But, like, I don't know. Like, that's the more defensible explanation that I've heard.
Starting point is 01:49:38 Well, we, you know, maybe it's like what we did with Iran and Iraq. You know, kept them at each other's throats, too. It's just what we did with Iran and Iraq. Kept them at each other's throats too. It's just geopolitics. Devin Porter says, Tim, I'd love to help draw the coffee shops to flush out the general aesthetic and franchise design. I also offered to draw the display case for the Civil War flag,
Starting point is 01:49:54 but I haven't heard back from SCNR or Ian. I'm BuilderGuy87 if you're interested. We likely will not have the Civil War flag because we can't cover the liability for for it we cannot accept a loaner for a hundred multi like several hundred thousand dollar objects because our insurance companies are like we will cancel you in two seconds because we're not going to assume that it's like okay well we probably can't do that uh as for the uh coffee shops we are all we've already done everything everything's done i can't say much about it because there's like laws or something, but we are really, really close to the process and it's going to be fantastic.
Starting point is 01:50:29 If you haven't already, you should push this as a third place. That's what it is. So one of the ideas is Saturday morning cartoons where Saturdays at like 6 a.m., families bring their kids. The shop will get catering. Kids can hang out. On the tvs they're playing wholesome family friendly uh cartoons and educational stuff the parents are networking with each other at our building in martinsburg on the second floor we have a private club for timcast elite members so if you're a member at 100 bucks a month when this opens you'll have a
Starting point is 01:50:59 key fob and you walk up there and go and opens up you can come hang out there'll be hours it'll probably be like you know 9 to like to like 11 PM every day or something. And, uh, there'll be drinks and snacks and the, the, the purpose of the a hundred bucks a month, not,
Starting point is 01:51:12 we're not making profit off this. That's like, trust me, like having a podcast that reaches millions of people, there's way better ways to monetize, but it covers the cost of staff, food, drinks,
Starting point is 01:51:21 games and everything. So we wanted, uh, we wanted to create a social club like they have in new york and los angeles and hollywood and all that stuff where these liberal elites get together and then talk business trump's got his of course at mar-a-lago we want ours for appalachia where the plumber can come and hang out and talk with his buddies who one guy works the post office and one guy's a mechanic and they can be like did you hear what this a-hole over at city hall's
Starting point is 01:51:44 trying to do that organizing is how you win a culture war what would be great too is a nice way to find a plumber what do you mean i mean it's hard to find people who are going to come do stuff and fix your house have you used public square to find a plumber maybe i've tried is that a thing hopefully it's not a bunch of plumbers are signing up as we i was literally looking at tea on Public Square right now. Listen, South Park has predicted once AI takes over, those guys are going to be billionaires. Right? Because people don't know how to do stuff.
Starting point is 01:52:12 I've been told that as the computers take control or start to take over, it's the things that require manual dexterity that we'll still do. You remove everybody. You know, the people that keep the world turning are the plumbers and the exterminators and the mechanics. You remove them. Maintenance people. Yeah. Garbage collectors. Handyman Services Charlestown. That easy.
Starting point is 01:52:35 Yeah, I'm checking it out right here. Nice. You know, you get rid of guys like me. Some people might miss me for a week. But the world keeps turning. Com Stock Plumbing and Pump in Ransom. Okay. Shout out.
Starting point is 01:52:49 This is amazing. Yeah. Public Square is so amazing. Those are great stuff. I'm so excited this thing exists. Yeah, really. Learn a trade. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:57 My son was telling me the other day, he was like, maybe I want to, first he asked me, what are trades? And I told him, and he was like, maybe I want to do that. Yeah. And I was like, for for sure you could do that definitely and you can always like have passion projects
Starting point is 01:53:08 on the side because he's also really into making music so man if you're if you're in a city like Chicago
Starting point is 01:53:13 New York or LA you gotta get Public Square yeah I think Amazon's gonna try and buy them eventually I bet if they haven't already
Starting point is 01:53:20 why would they sell to Amazon they're gonna offer them like a 10 billion dollar 50 billion dollars or something. No way. They'll be like, no.
Starting point is 01:53:27 I have a feeling anyway. The value proposition of public square is that you know these people aren't crackpot a-hole cultists. Yes. It's beyond cash. Like Amazon, no. Yeah. It's like you sell to Amazon.
Starting point is 01:53:36 Dude, this is amazing. You go to Chicago and there's so many businesses. If you are in Chicago, New York, or LA, you need to have this because in Chicago, in the belly of the beast of these Democrat strongholds, there are businesses that outright say, hey man, we're with you. Here's a kombucha place on Public Square. That sounds good. You have to say, yes, I support them.
Starting point is 01:53:55 I support American values and the family and all that stuff. That's so cool. Alright, I'm downloading it. I took the hint, Tim. They better hope the locals don't fight. Otherwise, they're going to get boycotted. You can see that happening. You can see the backlash happening in those blue cities.
Starting point is 01:54:10 Oh, wait. You pledged you loved America. Now we're going to come out and pick it. Hundreds of thousands of businesses in Chicago, and you can find what looks like a couple hundred businesses that have signed up for public square. It's really kind of the way it should be. I don't think they should have to feel like they have to fly a flag to be like,
Starting point is 01:54:28 hey, everyone in the world, just acknowledge it on a piece of paper in the back. That's all you need. I believe in this country. I believe in our rights and the Constitution and family and our values. That's awesome. It should be basic. It shouldn't be controversial at all. For us out here in West Virginia, it's pretty easy because you walk in,
Starting point is 01:54:44 you're like, America, and and they go yeah because because we're in manga country even western maryland is manga country yeah i was saying we there's a bar in the maryland uh in the maryland panhandle in western maryland and they had the trump riding the velociraptor with the machine gun or whatever and i'm like you don't you don't need you don't need you know they should be on public square but we know out here but like if you're in new york you you could intentionally give your money to businesses that have said i believe in this country and our values and all these things and reject it's like basically just saying no woke none of that right right that's rad all right all right we'll read some more superchats
Starting point is 01:55:16 okay ayub matan says man tim have some diversity nothing but zionists expect except ian at least have some moderates ask the panel except ian if islam is inherently violent here's what i love about the the israel derangement syndrome okay they call everyone zionists like the way the woke call people white supremacists you're like i think scheduling is important you're a white supremacist you go uh i actually don't care about israel or the moral arguments of israel palestine i can understand why israel went to war you're a zionist it's like okay like i have no idea what you're talking yeah i acknowledge israel's well right to exist i mean i acknowledge its right to exist in that
Starting point is 01:56:01 de facto it exists there's no denying that and every human has a right to defend themselves i'll go that far i'm talking about zionism if you talk about do i support like the creation of a ethno state in that that's another conversation i mean so so i got people on twitter and prominent people they're not like random accounts saying that i'm a zionist and it's like my position is the the U S should cut all funding in Israel. And they're like Zionist. And I'm like, huh? If you go to my Twitter account, my profile says one word Zionist.
Starting point is 01:56:31 What does it, what does it mean? I don't even know. I just know that it, it, it upsets the squares. Isn't it originally just, you think that the Jewish people should have a state?
Starting point is 01:56:41 Yeah. I'm reading it now. It's a political movement for the establishment of a Jewish nation state in the area of palestine since 1860 right so it's like calling someone a white supremacist you're like i don't have any strong opinions on that at all and i don't think we should be involved or funding it and like well then you're it was a political movement unless unless you think the old for too many of these people the only way to not be a zionist is to argue that israel should not exist right right and i I'm like, well, I'm not getting involved in your war, dude. Oh, like the undoing?
Starting point is 01:57:07 I'm not going to argue for the existence of Burma either. I'm not going to talk about Tibet. It's the same reason I have a coffee cup with a rebel flag on it. It just upsets the uptight squares. I don't want to undo the Israel. I want to bring the Jews and the Arabs all and the, in the Muslims together to worship like Abraham, what we all come from. Like,
Starting point is 01:57:27 let's acknowledge that together and go deeper. All right. Patriot American says I've been going to Lancaster since I was a baby and I had no clue that yayo came from a plant. I thought it was just heroin and weed that came from plants. The cacao plant. No, no.
Starting point is 01:57:42 Yeah. Yeah. Coca, Coca plant. Yeah. Not cacao. And then in the mountains in Peru, they like Yeah, not cacao. And in the mountains in Peru,
Starting point is 01:57:46 they like the, in the Andes or whatever, they like chew on coca leaves. I sucked on that when I was in Peru. To like go climbing around. We take the coca leaf, you put a little tobacco in it,
Starting point is 01:57:57 just pure like sticky tobacco, and then you fold up the leaf and stick it up in your lip and suck on it for like 20 minutes. That's like zen, right? It really was. Ginger McIsaac says the latest geographical evidence is an asteroid strike that smote sodom and gomorrah they're an area that had fractional glass just east of the dead sea area
Starting point is 01:58:16 you could look at any miracle in the bible and they'll find a natural reason for it like the part into the red sea there are everything even the blood how the red sea turned red iron that happens there's like algae in that area yeah yeah you see that that it's it's like naturalist explanations from the bible right but and that's fine because this is the question like when when uh when miracles are obvious they're obvious but if god takes action does he not take action through the natural means of the universe exactly yeah exactly yeah i think god should break microscopes because they'd be cheating because the water turns red we're like it's blood and then when you get a microscope you're like oh it's a bacteria i don't think it's cheating yeah no it's cheating for us to figure it out like it's better to like oh because they say we'll run red with blood is that specific they say with blood
Starting point is 01:59:02 in the bible it's like he and you know maybe he just put algae there. He's like, I didn't want to bring blood and now you guys are calling me out. He should just ban microscopes. You make a good argument that we're not in the end times. I appreciate it. I don't think it's a coincidence that Moses or Charlton Heston, whoever it was, says these things are going to happen
Starting point is 01:59:20 and then these natural things happen to make them happen. We'll get one more in. Bud Guy says, maybe God was upset since Trump is selling his own version of the Bible. Isn't it just the King James Version of the Bible? But it's like a Trump version, isn't it? It's like a Trump brand. Oh, yeah. But it's just got, like, Trump branding on it?
Starting point is 01:59:38 Is that what it is? Yeah, I think it's a Bible with Trump branding. Was Trump smote for selling a Trump Bible? It sounds like a warning trump will sell anything yeah wow and he's good at it that's why he'll sell anything because he keeps doing it they'll do that for you after you're gone man you don't have to force that yet that's a good comment live your best life yeah brother he is profiting off the bible how big is the trump name in comparison to the Holy Bible?
Starting point is 02:00:07 The Holy Trump Bible. You see how he signs his name? It takes half the page. So the problem is, normally when you search for a product, you get the product, but because... All I'm getting is news. It's all just news.
Starting point is 02:00:18 It's just hate. How do I know this even exists? Well, the AP says it costs $59.99. Sure, and how do I find it? Yeah, I got no idea. You know where you could find it? maybe it's on Public Square Public Square for sure maybe the Trump store
Starting point is 02:00:30 maybe with shipping the reason why he got the earthquake is with shipping it works out to like 6666 that's the problem he has dude I don't know how you actually buy the Trump Bible I don't either it's all just news
Starting point is 02:00:45 you google it nothing but news comes up other jones is unhappy about it all right if i'd known this when we were talking about the earthquake mother jones yeah you know that magazine i'm just joking around here you know bro i'm not even like religious or spiritual that much like i'm really literally deep down like a common sense kind of guy but if he put his name on a bible and i don't think he did okay i think it's called the god bless the usa bible yeah that's what it says it's more lee greenwood actually than trump if i remember correctly yeah it's uh it is you're right yeah lee greenwood and it says god bless the usa bible yeah that's not why is that a bad thing because they're just trying to yeah because it's trump but he's gonna sell anything he's got legal fees right all right
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Starting point is 02:01:41 I've just had a great time. I appreciate you guys inviting me. This was a blast. Thank you. Nice meeting you all, too. I want to shout anything out? I've just had a great time I appreciate you guys inviting me this is a blast thank you nice meeting you all too I want to shout out Nuance Bro love you buddy
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Starting point is 02:02:30 If people want to check that out, it's getting great reviews on Amazon. Of course, the mainstream media ignored me. What's it about? Like 10 seconds, what's it about? It's about a guy who lives forever. He's immortal, but he's a normal guy. He's not a Dracula or a superhero or anything. And it just takes him through to the
Starting point is 02:02:45 end of the world and it it's a guy oh i like this 10 000 years old uh uh borrowed time and he could look at our culture from you know a perspective we can't oh that's awesome that sounds a lot like ishmael that book that alex jones quotes about the gorilla whose psychic gorilla is like i'm a gorilla that's awesome um and it's n-o-l-t-e-N-C. N-O-L-T-E-N-C. And it does say Zionist on your profile. It's impressive. Yes, it does. Good to see you, man.
Starting point is 02:03:08 Bye, everyone. And I'm Serge. I hope you guys have a good weekend. Catch you later. We'll see you all throughout the weekend with clips, but we will be back Monday for Clips Day. you

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