Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #999 The View ROASTED For Saying Solar Eclipse Caused By CLIMATE CHANGE w/Tiffany Justice
Episode Date: April 9, 2024Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Tiffany Justice to discuss Sunny Hostin of The View saying the 2024 eclipse and cicadas are caused by climate change, Trump announcing his stance on abortion, dat...a from Social Security raising concerns over voter fraud, and the problems with public schooling in America Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Today was a solar eclipse, and it's the only thing anyone talked about.
So I'm sitting there watching the news and just thinking like, this is really boring.
Look, solar eclipse was fun.
We went out, we saw it, we're in 90% zone.
So it was pretty cool.
Didn't get pitch black, but did get really dark.
I think it was deceiving because your pupils dilate, and so it doesn't feel like it's a
lot darker.
But then when we went back in the house, I was like, whoa, it's like nighttime out, basically.
So it was pretty cool.
Then you turn on the news, and they're interviewing people who are like, it was a spiritual moment for me.
And they're like, what was the greatest thing about the eclipse?
And they're like, I really liked how it got dark.
And I'm like, oh, shut up, dude.
Like we enjoyed the eclipse.
It was cool for a lot of people.
They're never going to see one again.
We get it.
But man, the craziest thing was on The View, Sonny Hostin said that the solar eclipse,
that cicadas and earthquakes were climate change. And that's what many people are watching. Now,
to be fair, Whoopi Goldberg desperately tried to correct Sonny Hostin, but also didn't know
what she was talking about either. So they just sounded all very, very stupid. And this is how people are informed and it's how they vote. Oh boy.
So we'll talk about that, I guess, because it's the eclipse day and, you know, we'll go over that
stuff. But Donald Trump did release his abortion plan. That is, he believes it should be left up
to the states. The states should pass their own laws on abortion and it shouldn't be a question
of the federal government, which has basically pissed everybody off because now the left is still running the
same line they did. Oh, they're going to ban abortion. And the conservatives are saying you've
given up the fight and you are just giving into independence for no reason. So we'll talk about
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Tiffany Justice.
Hey, thank you for having me tonight, Tim.
Who are you? What do you do?
I'm the co-founder of Moms for Liberty. I'm a wife and a mom. I served on school board,
and now I try to get other great Americans to run for office.
Okay, right on.
Should be fun.
We got Hannah Clare hanging out.
Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com.
That's Scanner News.
I'm really grateful to be a part of that team.
I can't remember the rest of my intro.
Ian's here.
It was pretty good.
I liked it.
That was almost good.
That was good.
Shout out to your team.
Yes.
Who's on your team, by the way?
Chris Carr, Cassandra McDonald, Chris Burtman, Adrian Norman. It's so cool to see the newsroom,
and I think I'm coming up on my third year with that team, so it's very, very cool.
Great team. I know those people personally. I love them. Thank you. Hannah Clare,
good to see you too. Tiffany, great to meet you. I went for a walk this morning. I went for like a
three to four, three mile walk, and then I worked out, and then I got a sports massage, got cupped.
You guys ever do cupping? I think we talked about it before the show a little bit he has giant purple welts all over yeah and
like some some of these cup what they do is they stick like a suction on your back really tighten
the suction and let it sit there for like a 30 seconds they move it around oh did they they
didn't move mine you just put new ones on in different spots and some of the spots you get
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or the muscle.
Some of them was like.
Fascia.
The fascia.
And one thing he told me that's cool, he's like, when you have a tight spot, because
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When one piece gets tight, it pulls on the entire rest of the body.
So he was helping me kind of, it's, you soar in one spot, it might be other areas
that need to be worked on. It was really cool. And now Ian's drinking Alpha Brain.
And that's why I probably talked for a minute and a half for the intro. Yeah, I had Alpha Brain,
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Thanks guys. Great stuff. Serge is pressing the buttons. Yeah, I had some of that stuff too. It's
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Let's just get started, Tim.
Oh, man.
It was an eclipse day, and we have this story from Mediate.
Sunny Hostin blames eclipses and earthquakes on climate change as Vue co-hosts scramble to correct her.
Oh, man.
Can I just play the clip for you?
Because it was worse than that.
She mentioned cicadas too.
And, you know, we jokingly talked on this show about the plagues of Egypt, like darkness,
locusts, whatever.
I don't think earthquakes is one of them.
But it seems like she's seriously arguing some kind of pseudo.
It's it's it's crazy because we can joke about the plagues of Egypt in a religious context.
They actually have some kind of cult-like pseudo-scientific worldview.
Let me play the clip for you guys.
We've got a solar eclipse.
We've got the earthquake.
She ran down the hallway.
The rapture is here.
The rapture is here.
And then also I learned that the cicadas are coming.
Cicadas.
Cicadas.
Cicadas.
For the first time in like 100 years. No, no, no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no this happens. Well, that's not what I read, but maybe, you know, maybe, you know, better. But in a way, all those all those things together, what maybe they'd want to believe that,
you know, either climate change exists or something is returning.
Earthquakes are not at the mercy of climate change. It's on the ground.
It happens. OK, now, look, let me break down for you this show.
It's so incredible what The View represents, okay?
Whoopi Goldberg is a moron.
Sonny Hostin is a moron.
It's a whole bunch of morons who have no idea what they're talking about,
informing millions of people every day.
That's right.
Let's start with what Sonny said, which is moronic.
You have cicadas.
Okay, it's cicadas, but that's fine.
That's fine. I don't mind when someone mispronounces a word. It's cicadas, but that's fine. That's fine.
I don't mind when someone mispronounces a word, it means they learned it from reading
and I can respect that. So she was actually seeking out new information and Sonny's actually
not completely wrong on the rarity of the cicada. A moment would be thinking she's much smarter and
Sonny is wrong. No, no, it's, it's 17 years. Okay. The cicadas are not because of climate change.
The solar eclipse, heavens, is not because of climate change.
It's just the moon.
Earthquakes are not climate change.
We had that.
I was a New Jersey politician.
And can I just pull this up so I can also debunk Whoopi Goldberg?
The 13 and 17 year broods that will emerge from underground this spring will be appearing together for the first time in 221 years.
It is just by nature math.
If you go 13 years, every 13 years and you go every 17 years, eventually they will hit at the same time.
It's just math.
Classic patriarchy using math to oppress women.
I don't understand.
Prime numbers.
I feel bad for women because of the view. Yeah, I do too. I do too. There's a guy on that panel. math classic patriarchy using math to oppress women i don't understand prime numbers i feel
bad for women because of the view yeah i do too because there's a guy on that panel this is not
who i want representing me this is we are not sending our best but it's it's safetyism i mean
because she they want to can they she has to have a reason why all of this is happening because
of course it's humans of course it's going to be climate change because they it makes them feel
like they can control it but you can't control earthquakes.
That's scary for them.
Unless unless maybe there's a government program with the earthquake weapons.
I like in that movie.
What was that movie?
The core.
Yeah.
I never seen it.
They drilled down.
Yeah, because the government was using earthquake weapons and it stopped the rotation of the core of the earth.
Yeah.
So maybe that's true.
Perhaps that's true. Perhaps that's true.
No, to me, this shows how little they understand about environmental concerns because they're just blaming actually anything that happens outside on the environmental changes, I guess.
And it makes me think you're like, we always talk about how a lot of millennials say they're
not going to have children because of the environment, right?
Like this is just becoming an excuse for anything.
When you don't do your homework, you can start saying, well, the environment.
Climate change.
Climate change.
I just can't like, can't show up for it.
Well, climate change.
Is there a reason why you miss work?
If you have to break up with someone, be like, it's not you.
It's climate change.
Climate changes.
That's what climate does.
When the moon moves through the sky, the solar climate is changing.
When the tide comes up, the climate has changed.
So when they say that climate change
is like a specific thing,
they're missing the mark.
They want to create like all caps,
climate change,
like a proper noun,
specific thing,
but it's just, you know,
climate changes
and then you build a new technology
and it changes in a different way
and then you do a different-
But the audacity,
they could do something to stop earthquakes.
I mean, the idea that they could do anything
to stop nature
and the force of nature, hurricanes. That's crazy. It's crazy. Or make- The power trip stop earthquakes. I mean, the idea that they could do anything to stop nature and the force of nature,
hurricanes, it's crazy.
Or make-
The power trip to the-
Okay, I mean-
I don't, I do not believe
the government can make earthquakes.
I believe that you can drop a nuclear bomb on the ground,
which can create a seismic shock
similar to that of an earthquake to a certain degree.
But I mean, we're looking,
what was it, like a seven point something in Taiwan?
I don't believe there are earthquake weapons.
Really?
I don't believe it, but I wouldn't say there are none.
We can't rule it out, says Ian.
Because it's a good weapon.
If you had control of one of those,
you could really mess somebody up.
Yeah, fear is a very powerful tool.
So I can certainly understand
that the government may have access to technologies
that we are not familiar
with i think a lot of ufos or uaps they call them now are probably experimental aircraft or something
i think i think in more than one instance we know that is actually the case people like oh i saw ufo
and then it was like oh actually they were testing some kind of aircraft i don't know for sure but
based on our modern understanding of science i don't think you could trigger like short of maybe
like fracking like a serious endeavor of launching a massive operation of drilling into the ground
and injecting frack fluid to create tensions i don't know how you remotely trigger tesla actually
nikola tesla in his new york apartment was working on vibrating something, and he caused a local earthquake in the city.
And the cops came down and were like, what are you doing?
And they shut him down.
And he had to go to this warden.
He had to leave.
I'm pretty sure they shut him down after that happened.
So he actually legitimately caused an earthquake.
And I think he's just working with electricity and vibration.
He was like, it's not me.
It's climate change.
Yeah.
And they're like, what are you talking about?
What's climate change?
And he's like, damn, I came back too soon that was like a hundred years ago that he was doing that
so if he was able to figure out how to vibrate create a frequency to cause the earth to start
to shake okay okay so so okay fine there is there is a a controversy over whether or not
man can create earthquakes but the solar eclipse okay being caused by climate change has to be one
of the funniest things and it shows you that
these people they're a cult okay yeah they don't know what climate change means they have no idea
they're like it's an eclipse it's climate change like we predicted this eclipse 50 years ago they
were playing the the the from the 70s or whatever where they're like that will be the last total
eclipse that we'll see and the next will be in the year 2024 and i'm like that was like 50 years
ago they said that okay and so have you ever been in the year 2024 and i'm like that was like 50 years ago they
said that okay and so have you ever been in the path of totality have you ever i had a little
like fear of missing out today part of me was like gosh i really should have gone and seen it like
i i don't think so no did you see 90 yeah that was today but i kind of felt like i have people
i have friends who went different places i think i mean it would be pretty cool totality would be
pretty sweet it was pretty unifying to see how many different kinds of people were like, yeah,
I want to see this thing. I will leave my office building. I'll take my kids out of school. I will
make a point to see this thing that we won't see for a very, very long time. Some of us never again.
Like in this very split and divisive time, funny that not being able to see the sun brought us all together.
Maybe we should have more eclipses.
I think people are fascinated with stars and space
and like exploration.
But it's when it's so far away,
it's hard to even,
it's like out of sight, out of mind.
Like if Mars was really close to us,
we'd be really into it all frequently.
Like people would be talking about it,
wanting to go there and all that.
So here's the question I have is,
the people on The View,
like Whoopi Goldberg,
who is a midwit,
and Sonny Hostin, who is a dimwit, you know, is that the degree of intellect that Democrats and most
Republicans have? Or is it that the uniparty establishment are actually intelligent people
who want to manipulate stupid people for power? Like, are the people who are behind Joe Biden
intelligent and capable
of a conversation
around what they're doing?
Or are they just as stupid
as the view hosts?
I don't know.
When I watched like AOC
and Kamala Harris,
people say like,
oh, they're idiots.
I don't think they're idiots.
I think AOC knows
exactly what she's doing.
I think Kamala Harris
knows exactly what she's doing
when she's messaging to people.
So I think that they're
not quite as stupid
as everyone would like
to think they are.
But the people on The View are.
But what's their wisdom level?
You know, that's what I wonder.
I mean, Sunny,
I was sharing,
Sunny also said that
her son walking down
a beach in Florida
was yelled at.
Someone yelled the N-word
at him several times.
Like, I think she's a liar.
Honestly, I think she's willing
to say whatever it is
she needs to say
in order to
keep being on the show.
To be fair, it could have been a nuisance YouTuber or TikToker.
And maybe she exaggerated.
I had a friend that always would add one.
He'd be like, dude, we played nine times.
I'd be like, we played eight times, by the way.
And he would do the lot.
And then that can extrapolate into bigger lies.
But I'll give her this.
There are a big wave of people who go on TikTok and they intentionally film themselves doing things like that.
And so they're trying to get controversy and clicks because even when you are made fun of on the Internet, you can make money off it.
Maybe. I think what she was saying was in the frame of reference of like, you know, America is a very racist country.
And that, you know, you could just walk down the beach and be a black person and get yelled at in, you know, especially Florida.
Right. Florida is just, you know, the most transphobic racist state we have. Right.
That's what that was has been sold. And so, you know, I just think she is she's useful.
And she, you know, she enters things into the ether of conversation.
And I wonder if she thought, you know, she gets support from the environmental activists out there.
Of course, I'm bringing up how dangerous the environment is. And so that will win me support among the crowd which again i stand by i don't
think anyone at this point knows what climate change or what environmental issues they think
they're advocating for because it's just become this sort of blanket catch-all term for you know
a problem someone else has created and if i'm trendy if i if i'm socially current if i'm doing the things that i
think will win me attention i'm saying this word all the time no matter what what do i like to do
is be specific i want to pull the carbon dioxide out of the air turned into graphene i want to fire
an electrolyzer into the sun and charge it with hydrogen so we can keep fueling the thing so it
doesn't expand and explode and we can keep our solar system stable like there's real a couple
billion years don't we yeah i, I think so, yeah.
We'll be all right.
Yeah, we will be.
We've got a lot of good climate change we can do as humans.
Sitting around with, you know,
just diddling while we pump carbon out there
is not the right path.
We've got to reuse the stuff.
But how are you going to stop the earthquakes?
Because I heard those were caused by climate change.
Yes, and the eclipses.
Or worse, if the earthquakes are caused by carbon
and Ian takes all the carbon for his graphene,
then there won't be any earthquakes anymore.
How could you do this to us?
You're taking away the earthquakes.
I know.
Ian, that's kind of mean.
That's rude.
Sorry about that, guys.
It's going to have to be stable for a while.
It's going to have to be stable for a while.
All right.
Well, in the meantime, the big news politically is that Donald Trump has announced his abortion policy positions.
SCNR.com reports Trump's abortion policy position draws criticism from conservatives
and liberals. Former President Donald Trump Monday's announcement that he supports states'
rights on abortion legislation has drawn criticism in equal measure from conservatives and liberals.
Quote, my view is now that we have abortion where everybody
wanted it from a legal standpoint. The states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both
and whatever they decide must be the law of the land. And in this case, the law of the state,
the former president acknowledged that states will differ in regard to laws regulating abortion
access. Quote, many will have a different number of weeks or some will have more conservative laws
than others. And that's what they will be. At the end of the day, this is all about the will of the people.
You must follow your heart or in many cases, your religion or your faith. Do what's right for your
family and do what's right for yourself. Do what's right for your children. Do what's right for your
for our country and vote. So important vote. Trump also said he was strongly in favor of exceptions
for rape, incest and situations that could threaten the life of the mother. At the end of the day, it's all about the will of the people.
That's where we are right now, and that's what we want. You know, what's really fascinating is
we've talked on the show about whether or not there is a possibility that abortion
could be a catalyst for civil conflict in this country the way slavery was, because both are a question of the rights of
human life, whether or not they have full rights under the Constitution and sovereign independence,
et cetera, et cetera. Of course, the left argues, well, I guess Democrats argue as they did with
slavery and once again with abortion, that the subjects of these arguments are not in fact
deserving of full constitutional rights
for whatever reason. Now, today, Democrats would say, oh, that's absurd. A zygote's not a human.
A black person is. Therefore, it's not the same argument. I'm not arguing the same thing. I'm
saying back then you had slavery and you had the Republican Party. Abraham Lincoln did not say
abolish slavery. He said, leave it up to the states. The states that have slavery can keep it.
The states that don't won't have it. However, he was opposed to the expansion of slavery in the
new territories. We don't really have new territories right now. I mean, like we have
territories, but not really an issue. So Trump taking this compromise position is very much
similar to what Lincoln did. So seeing that, I'm curious as to whether or not abortion could end
up being a large
catalyst for some kind of upheaval in this country if it does get to it, considering
no one, no one will, in my opinion, will accept the results of this election.
And I think Democrats and Republicans, at least who are paying attention, probably agree.
But I don't know.
What do you guys think about Trump's position?
I think he followed what the Supreme Court said. And I think that, you know, I think we need to do a better job of showing, explaining 15 weeks, explaining 25 weeks, explaining 30 weeks, showing, telling stories about babies that have survived at, you know, early birth times, right?
Early in like in the second trimester and third trimester.
I think we just don't personalize the issue
enough. So the fact that we're still having this argument tells me that we're not talking about
this in a real enough way with people. How would you personalize it?
You show the story of a child that was born prematurely and was able to grow and thrive
in their lifetime. And you talk about that child's name. And I mean, I think we just need to show people, you know, that a baby born at 29 weeks, what does that baby actually look like?
You know, I mean, I went and did a town hall for Nikki Haley up in New Hampshire. She talked about
15 weeks there. There was broad consensus, to be honest with you. Ron Johnson has been very clear
in the position. I was with him in Milwaukee over the summer. He spoke about it with Republicans. So, I mean, I think it's an issue that the Supreme Court was clear as a state's issue.
There are other issues that we need to handle at the states. And I just think we need to have
better arguments at the state level in order to advance the positions that we want.
This has been the Republican position forever. With Roe v. Wade, all the Republicans were saying
it should be up to the states to decide.
And now that we're there,
Trump's saying,
hey, we're here.
You've got conservatives
saying no.
It didn't feel radical.
Allie Beth Stuckey says,
weak, weak statement
that is a signal for independents
who will never vote for him anyway.
IVF involves eugenics,
the indefinite freezing of embryos
and the mass discarding of embryos.
Babies conceived via rape and incest
are just as much babies as any other. Why do they deserve the death penalty
for the circumstances of their conception? This simply isn't a pro-life statement.
So I disagree. I think Trump made the smart political move. And I believe this will. I don't
believe this will earn votes, but I believe it will protect some of the moderate votes that he
already has, meaning independent voters who are like, I'll probably vote for Trump, heard this and said,
yeah, that's fine.
Are evangelical voters not going to vote for him because of this?
Right.
Of course, they're going to vote for him no matter what.
Yeah.
There's no way they're voting for Biden.
And they would rather it be regulated at the state level and federally.
I mean, I think the thing is, with any pro-life position, if you believe life begins at conception,
of course, you don't want anybody to have an abortion, right?
And you believe that any embryo created through IVf is legitimate and deserves a chance at life but
this is now the opportunity for the pro-life movement in my opinion to go campaign at the
state level i think so right if you believe this now is your time to win hearts and mind especially
because the legislation is open to conversion anytime Anytime a state convenes their legislative session,
if you're a pro-life person,
you now have the chance to change the abortion laws
to be closer to what you'd like them to be.
When it was at the federal level,
it was much more difficult
and you weren't really able to campaign
in the personal way that you were talking about.
It's much easier to campaign in your neighborhood
than it would be to try and be like,
everyone in the country pay attention to my position.
I think conservatives have two big issues here.
And the first is that their argument has no logical consistency.
The idea of states determining whether or not if the conservative position is that babies are being murdered.
The idea that they would say you can decide at the state level whether a person can be murdered seems to make no sense.
The other issue is that conservatives being unwilling to argue their moral position means you will never win that moral position. That's true. So you've got all these conservatives
saying, like, I believe right now it probably is the the political decision that the right
political move for Trump to say this. However, the problem is in the long term, the goal for
Trump is we got to win the House. OK, he posted on Truth attacking Lindsey Graham, saying he's too absolutist on this one. He's going to hand the House for Trump is we got to win the house. Okay. He, he, he, he posted
on truth attacking Lindsey Graham saying he's too absolutist on this one. He's going to hand the
house to Democrats. We got to win the house. It's more than abortion. Abortion at the only issue.
And that's why I think politically it's the right move. However, on the issue, strictly of abortion,
conservatives have to literally argue. If you don't argue, then the only thing anyone hears
is you're stripping women of their rights. Liberals are arguing ad nauseum and Republicans are just bowing out and hiding.
Okay.
So then you have a guy who's no idea what's going on and he sits down and someone goes,
hey, did you hear they want to take women's rights away?
And he goes, really?
How?
And they go, the banning abortion.
He goes, huh?
Then he looks over the Republican and says, what's really going on?
And the guy goes, don't talk to me about it.
And he goes, okay, I guess they were right the whole time.
Right.
Conservatives aren't making any moral arguments on this. That's why I wish
they would talk more about IVF, because they all immediately got scared and like, no, of course,
we don't want to ban IVF. I don't think you should ban IVF. But I think when you like IVF, you
there's a couple of ways to do it, but you create a batch of embryos and then the doctor will say
these ones, these three of the six are the most viable, but we'll put all of them on ice and some of them don't survive being frozen.
At any point, a conservative could say, you know, OK, I believe that you have created
six children and that you have a moral obligation to see all of these pregnancies through in
some manner.
You know, like it would be a more interesting conversation and you would be able to talk
about your morality.
But instead, they get worried that they're going to offend someone or be upset if they
were to say, left begins at conception, and I think you have an obligation.
They just immediately back off.
They get scared.
Yeah, I think to that point, the only way out is through on all of these issues.
And we're going to have to have those conversations.
You just have to.
You have to talk about it.
For like, because I'm kind of, I'm very neutral on this issue.
I have been for a long time.
I don't like it.
I don't like killing in general.
And I really don't like that.
But, you know, also time and a place for these kinds of things.
And in war killing is okay.
I guess they're a time and a place for killing,
I guess.
But like,
if you could net neural net,
these,
these babies in the womb,
little 13 week,
maybe like a 30 week or a 20 week child.
And there's somehow they're able to communicate somehow.
And they say,
please don't kill me.
And you get that communication from one of these things, things.
I would immediately get on the do not kill that thing.
Well, and to that point, there are different charities that will do ultrasounds for people
and show them the baby before they abort the baby.
And once you make that connection, I mean, I've been pregnant five times, had four children.
Once the first time you see your baby on the ultrasound and you can
see your baby moving, I mean, it's just, it's a totally different experience. And so there's,
I think to your point, you're right. I think we should be talking about the issue more and
debating. And even the 15 week debate to me is a relevant debate to have. What's that?
The idea that you would say, no, you would ban abortions after 15 weeks. And I still,
do I agree with it? No, but is it better than, you know, going to the end of term? Yes. And I would think just even in
the conversation about 15 weeks, I still think that we would have. And 15 weeks is because of
pain, right? It's because of pain. Yeah. And the fetus can feel pain. And so I just think that
in this moment of time where we do have babies that are being aborted later in pregnancies,
that we should be willing to at least have the conversation,
talk about it in an honest manner with the ultimate goal of ending abortion,
because it is murder. I think there is a strong historical precedent
that abortion will be made completely illegal.
I don't know exactly how serious violence could get around the issue.
I think the current form of the conservative pro
life argument, uh, I believe Allie, Allie Beth Ducky is correct on. It's not a pro life statement.
It's morally, it's morally inconsistent. I think there's another problem for Republicans in that
you can't come out and say, this is murdering a baby, but also we think states can choose whether
they do that or not. doesn't that's and so the
the argument then for a moderate person is they can't possibly hold that position unless they're
hypocrites you can't say they're killing babies and then come out and be like but you can decide
if you want to keep doing that you can't claim it's murder and then say it's okay somewhere and
a lot of people are saying killing is never right they'll say that i saw that on twitter a lot today
and i'm like i'm just thinking about war that when time sanctioned killing is never right. They'll say that. I saw that on Twitter a lot today. And I'm like, I'm just thinking about war.
That when time sanctioned, killing is often the right way to go horribly in the history
of humanity.
That's what war is all about.
I think it's fair to say it's never right.
But sometimes you're backed into a corner.
But sometimes you have to stop the enemy.
Like World War II, we weren't backed into a corner.
We just went over there and stopped the guy.
To that point, I don't think anyone's saying that it's right.
That's why I think I disagree with you a little bit.
I don't think that Trump, I don't think there's saying that it's right. That's why I think I disagree with you a little bit. I don't think that Trump,
I don't think there was anything
about what he said
where he said it was okay.
I think he said right now
it's a state-level issue.
And any issue that we're dealing
with something that's
a state-level issue,
we need to engage fully
and make the best argument.
But it shouldn't be
a state-level issue.
That is morally inconsistent.
Well, but it is right now.
No, all right.
I'm saying the only morally consistent position for someone who's pro-life is
the constitution says human a person in the united states you don't have to be a citizen
has inalienable rights and due process rights you can't so i've let me do this i love i love
pulling this up the 14th amendment because i believe uh the 40th amendment let me see if we
actually is the right one okay the 40th amendment this question needs to be answered section one
all persons born or naturalized united states are and subject to the jurisdiction thereof
are citizens of the united states and the state wherein they reside period no state shall make
or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or
immunities of citizens of the United States, semicolon, nor shall any state deprive any person
of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. The Supreme Court needs to answer the question,
are the unborn persons, yes or no? I'm not saying yes or no to that question i'm saying the only morally consistent position is if you believe babies are human beings they qualify
as not citizens but at least persons and they cannot be denied their rights without due process
meaning under this if it is to be logically and morally consistent if a woman wants to get an
abortion for any reason under the 14th amendment, she would have to go to court first.
I kind of think that like they messed this this section up.
Like, why didn't they say all persons born or naturalized in the United States, et cetera,
down to the third line, deprive nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty.
But why not say any person born of life, liberty or property?
Why are they why did they go from persons born or naturalized to just persons?
Because you're saying like, if you're not a citizen of the United States, we can't deprive
you of life or liberty.
Like you are still, you have to recognize the humanity of other people, even if they're
not citizens of America.
That's why we're not like, oh, you're a foreign national, we've arrested.
So you get treated completely differently than we treat American citizens.
Maybe that was their intention.
And now people are potentially using this to argue that unborn children are also persons.
I would argue that the further you go back in time, the higher the likelihood is that
individuals viewed unborn babies as persons.
Oh, yeah.
A hundred percent.
It is only in modern scientific context where you get zygote.
That's what weirds me out about IVF.
Zygotes aren't people.
Like with IVF, if you a parent you or you want to be
a parent really badly and you make a bunch of it let's say you make five embryos and you have two
children through that and you have one or two left over then suddenly those aren't your children like
it is weird how much the brain can switch this on and off when you wanted them they were potentially
children and when you didn't want them they are no longer children that's bizarre to me they either
are they are or yeah go ahead or that there are laws where if a woman is pregnant
and you commit a crime which causes the death of the pregnancy, you get charged for it.
The baby counts then.
Right. The baby counts then. So I'm not saying I have all the answers. I'm certainly saying
there is a current political conundrum for Republicans where they fear that if they
actually address the moral
issue, they will lose. I got bad news for you. That means conservatives publicly are admitting
they are in the weak moral position and they are not on moral grounds. Like, I don't know how else
to put it unless maybe that's unfair. And it's conservatives believe people are inherently
selfish and evil and would want to kill babies so there's no point in arguing their position because they'll lose political power by doing so i i suppose that's what's being
said i feel like republicans are saying we cannot win the argument i mean i think that's that's a
crazy thought to say about humans like until you can prove that these unborn children are actually
people that they actually have some sort of like capacity to be
a human before they're born unless you can like prove it there's no real argument but this is
where all humans ever have come from it's like um ever it's not like it's never a puppy at the end
but they're like people seeds it's like if you hand me a handful of seeds if you handed me a
handful of oak seeds you wouldn't say look at all these oak trees in your hand these are seeds that maybe if they're treated right will one day be an oak tree but the it's
very different from like an embryo yeah you're talking about like an egg so so so what if what
if the tree is planted and it's sprouted and it's got a little stem it looks good but if someone
steps on it it's not going to become an oak tree yeah that's how i'm killing the tree you might
argue it has become a sapling but like
an oak sapling but like when it pokes out of the ground if you dig your heel into it you know it's
not going to become the oak tree that you thought it was going to become it's the same thing with
these embryos yeah and if there is a small child yeah and if a small child is hit by a car well
they're not gonna be a human i guess we're never gonna be an adult for sure only like a quarter of
one to be fair right yeah are you talking about the three-fifths argument from the what no no i wasn't
thank you well i think until until they're born they're not they're not like um they're not people
because you don't believe life begins at conception but like i think they're alive i just don't think
they become people until they're born legally but so what are they in the intro just budding seeds
of humanity so but if you kill a pregnant mom you get charged with yes if you take her unborn child
away from her by force against her will you deserve that murder charge so it's fine i actually
think it really does get to a point where there's no reason to argue it there's there's no reason
to argue the supreme court needs to answer the question are the unborns person row of persons
roe v wade was a very feeble attempt at this.
And there was actually an interesting, I think originally, because it was actually Roe v.
Wade.
There was another case in the nineties, I believe.
Roe v.
Wade, uh, it's been so long since we went over this, but there was basically the, the,
well, before a certain amount of time, it's, it's not capable of surviving on its own,
but after some of the time when it certain amount of time when it is, well, now there's a question of whether it's now obtained personhood rights as it is an independent being capable of surviving on its own. But after a certain amount of time when it is, well, now there's a question of whether it's now obtained personhood rights as it is an independent being capable of surviving
on its own.
There are conundrums there.
So one of the big issues we have right now is that liberals are arguing for up-to-birth
abortion.
But it's not really about that.
It's really about women's rights to them.
Like, you know, they don't frame it really around the, I mean, you're correct.
We should be talking more about the fact that they support up to birth abortion when we talk about
the baby, but they don't talk about any of that. Right. But when we debate them, they say, so what
someone's right to choose. And my point has always been, look, I'm, I'm not a staunch pro-lifer. I
don't have a hardcore, the baby must always survive. I think there's challenges in terms
of what the government can and can't enforce as to how a person shares their body with another person. But the idea that the baby could survive on its own,
and you would grant a woman the right to kill it simply because it is inside of her at the time,
doesn't make sense to me. And so, you know, we had this debate, I think it was with Lance from
the Serfs, when I said, okay, so a woman is pregnant. She no longer wants to be pregnant.
I'm totally fine with her not being, I would for forced birth or whatever he kept saying that forced birth i'm
like no no no i agree with you no forced birth how do we get the baby out and he was like abortion
i was like well why kill it why do you have to kill it on the way out how about you take it out
and he was like huh you don't have to kill it you could abort other options so if it's at seven
months someone says i don't want to have a baby it could abort it. There are other options. So if it's at seven months,
someone says,
I don't want to have a baby.
It's like, okay,
well, did you know
you could take a baby
and put it on the doorstep
of like a fire department
and just leave?
And that's legal?
They will,
they will,
what are they called?
Like baby boxes?
Baby boxes.
Some jurisdictions
or is that a federal thing?
It,
different places
have different regulations for it.
But there'll be a place
where it says like baby safe zone.
I don't want some random woman to go do that tonight thinking that every fire station is better than throwing in a dumpster.
They look like when you go to the library to drop off your books.
You put a baby in there.
It's because you can put them in there and they're safe.
The heating's safe.
An alarm goes off in the fire station so that the child isn't left in exposure to die.
They're protected.
So then the issue for the left is.
Why not that? So we're going to segue then the issue for the left is... Why not that?
So we're going to segue into the next segment,
and I'm going to say the word Civil War
because the movie is coming out in two days.
You guys going to go see it?
A24?
Is that the production company?
Yeah, we got the first tickets available
for the pre-screeners on Thursday.
I'm going to wait.
If I hear good reviews, I'll go see it.
The bet everyone needs to make now is,
will there be a character in the movie based on me? I mean, I guess I'll go. If a bunch of people go, I'll go see the bet. Everyone needs to make now is, will there be a character in the movie based on me?
I mean,
I guess I'll go.
If a bunch of people go,
I'll go.
We only got a couple of tickets because the earliest showing is for,
that'd be funny.
If there was like a guy on the internet yelling about it.
I mean,
you know,
this is not going to come in.
I mean,
don't say that.
I've been talking about it since 2018.
And there's a lot of people who watch the show.
So I would be surprised if they weren't at least aware of the things I've
said about it.
So,
but as it mean,
they would include a fictional version of, of like a things I've said about it. So, but doesn't mean they would include
a fictional version
of like a podcast show
doing something like this.
But before we segue up,
my final thoughts on this are
there is no tenable solution
between people saying
you are murdering babies
and the left saying
we have the right to murder babies.
Like what I mean by that is
I'm not being cute.
When the left argues that
a woman can abort the baby
at nine months,
they're literally just saying,
kill the baby before I can breathe air.
When the right argues
it is always killing a baby,
it is of the moral view
that life begins at conception
and you have no right to do it.
When the left argues
we can abort at nine months,
they're arguing they have a right
to kill a baby.
I see this as such a massive moral divide. It's in many ways worse than the issue of slavery.
The issue of slavery was that you had to care for the person and there were certainly abusive and
horrible atrocities in the slave trade and everything like that. But these are people
who are alive. They were alive. this is a question right now morally of
whether to end a life or not so there is a much more serious element to this than there was to
slavery and we're not the point where that the example i have to bring up is colorado which has
removed all restrictions in oklahoma which has banned all abortion so we these are these are
bordering states you you we're getting into dangerous territory where a woman flees Oklahoma into Colorado,
pursued by law enforcement for conspiracy to commit murder or whatever the law is in Oklahoma.
I think it was, I don't know what state it was, maybe Alabama.
Alabama has.
Was that the one?
Well, the one where they said they will hunt the woman down for conspiracy.
Remember that?
Yeah, Alabama will.
Let me double check right now.
But there was one state where they said a woman plotted an abortion in our state.
That's conspiracy to commit a crime.
And we will arrest her for this.
Plotted an abortion meeting set up to go somewhere else to do it.
And how did they know that?
It's not.
It's just a law they passed, right?
No, no, no.
There's a specific example.
Was there an example?
I'm pretty sure.
How would they know that you were plotting?
There was a woman who said, a woman said she called me and she talked to me and she said,
here's what I want to do.
And I said, here's what you do.
And they said, okay, there's a conspiracy now.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
So they said, that's a conspiracy to commit a murder.
And then other people argued that makes no sense because if it's illegal to gamble in
Texas, you drive up to Oklahoma where they have one of the biggest casinos in the world.
Nobody charges you with conspiracy to gamble. Right. So it's interesting where this is going.
But I believe this, depending on the willpower, depending on the structure of conflict these days,
the internet may make this untenable. We may not get hot conflict. I have no idea.
But this is a serious, stark moral contrast where where these i don't know how you live uh in in the same
world i think you're the alabama one is uh there was a law passed that said health care providers
could face felony charges for assisting alabama residents in traveling to other states to obtain
legal abortions it doesn't say woman there might be a case that came up after this article it's on
scnr there was a there was an official from some state it might have been mississippi or something or missouri i don't know
saying we will arrest them for doing this there are similar laws like idaho and washington are
really interesting again there one state has very lax laws and one has very strict and uh i remember
there's a couple different disputes between the two. Like one of the governors has said, no, we will absolutely not prosecute women who come
from Idaho.
Okay.
This may be it.
Alabama Attorney General says he has the right to prosecute people who facilitate travel
for out-of-state abortion.
It's not just doctors.
It's anyone.
So we'll see where that goes.
But let's jump to this next story.
So this is a story that we brought up last week.
And we're going to highlight it again because we're talking about,
I don't know,
the breakdown of social order
in this country.
It is episode 999 of TimCast IRL.
And there was just a total
solar eclipse in this country.
Ladies and gentlemen,
we have here for you
the Social Security Administration
weekly data for Help America
vote verification transactions
by state for the week
ending March 30th, 2024.
That is to say the
latest data coming out of the Social Security Administration on people who are registering to
vote who are lacking IDs or dead. And the data is shocking. In Arizona, 25,000 people attempted to
register to vote without IDs. 2,669 people were not in the Social Security Administration database.
20 of them were dead.
Now, that doesn't alarm me that 20 are dead.
It is seemingly a large number of people who are registering.
That's kind of shocking.
Georgia is 14,684.
Very interesting.
But let's take a look at Texas.
In one week, 225,132 people without IDs tried to register to vote.
30,000 of them did not have a match in the Social Security Administration database.
4,515 were dead.
194,708, I believe, were the total matches.
But a single match alive is the number we're actually looking at.
These are the ones that likely were confirmed registered.
It's one hundred ninety thousand one hundred ninety three.
Now, let's just make sure for the purpose of this video, we give you the proper context and we show what is H.A-V-V. H-A-V-A is the Help America Vote Act, requires states to verify information of
newly registered voters for federal elections. Each state must establish a computerized statewide
voter registration list and verify new voter information. That's important, new information.
H-A-V-V, which we're looking at right now, to comply with requirements of Section 303 of HAVA,
Social Security Administration developed a new verification system known as the Help
America Vote Verification.
In August 2004, states must only submit a request to us for new voters who do not present
a valid driver's license during the voter registration process.
HAVV verifies the accuracy of the name, date of birth, and last four digits of social
security number submitted and sends an indication of whether our records show the individual as
deceased. So let's break this down. In Texas, according to this website, 225,132 individuals
submitted for a new voter registration and did not have an ID. 30,000 of them came back with no match.
Perhaps some of those were accidents.
Perhaps some of those were I wrote down the wrong last four of my social or my name was
misspelled.
But 30,000 out of 225 come up with no match is quite alarming.
I don't know how that could happen unless these people are not in the Social Security
Administration database for some reason not citizens 4,515 dead people tried to register in one week so explain this
to me does that mean that they tried to register they went to go register and in the time between
when the the information was gathered they died so over 4,500 people died who were new voters. I have no idea. I guess.
That's a lot of people dying.
Yeah.
Almost suspiciously high.
Suspiciously high.
Yeah.
And so.
We're very interested in voting.
We did cover this last week.
And this is just the latest update of the numbers.
The reason I bring this up is because I want to say, do not be surprised if Democrats win Texas and Missouri.
Can you look at California?
Just because it's a similarly
sized population,
it's obviously a general.
3,137 total transactions.
80 were dead.
1,784 were found to be alive.
1,273 did not have a match.
That's a third of the people
didn't have a match.
Yeah. That's raising any alarm bells people didn't have a match. Yeah.
That's raising any alarm bells for anyone?
Well, how do you, did you spell your name wrong?
Like, how are you not in the Social Security Administration database?
I mean, I have a double first name and it's always been a problem because is it a space?
Some places don't let you have a double first name.
Like, I could believe that there is a small percentage of errors, but over a thousand seems too high. One, I think, I think we have one third of all California residents who registered were
named Hannah Clare.
They're all trying to steal my identity.
And the problem was when they're registering and said Hannah Clare, the people just wrote
down Hannah.
Yeah.
I mean, look, you would be, this was like a, this has been a consistent problem for
me.
It's why I don't recommend double names, at least in America, because some states will not let you put a double name on your license.
Some won't accept a hyphen like it is an issue.
And so, again, over a thousand seems too high to me.
But just like I believe that maybe someone did register to to vote and then die.
I just don't think it's four thousand of them in Texas.
That's too high.
I think the Georgia number is interesting, too.
I mean, fourteen thousand.
Everything that I've seen about Georgia
is like 99% of people are registered to vote.
So even just having those high vote totals
like new registrations coming in in that way,
it's interesting.
February 17th is the most alarming one
because that's where you get Missouri
with 23,000 dead people trying to register to vote.
Out of 78,000?
Yeah, they really screwed up by showing their hand there.
That's like a fourth of the registrars were actually dead?
That's insane.
And that is not realistic, in my opinion.
So what happens?
That is more than a fourth.
That's why I say the FBI should be involved.
This is insane.
I told you, the FBI is too busy looking at moms.
They're too busy checking moms out who speak at school board meetings.
They're very busy.
Take a look at this.
Busy, busy, busy.
Here's where it gets interesting.
270 to win did you guys know that joe biden may not be on the ohio ballot for the general election like we are getting crazy close to weird civil war-esque
let's just call it echoes donald trump didn't i'm sorry uh donald trump abraham lincoln did not get
a single vote in any of the confederate
states that wanted to become confederates. And it was because the way it worked back then is
that the parties would issue the party ballot of here's our list of party candidates you should
vote for. And then you'd basically sign it and drop in the box. And then it would go, okay,
okay, we get it. You're a Republican. So you voted for all Republicans in the confederate states.
The Republican party did not issue any ballots. They didn't think they we get it. You're a Republican, so you voted for all Republicans. In the Confederate States, the Republican Party did not issue any ballots.
They didn't think they'd get any.
So Abraham Lincoln didn't get a single vote.
We now have, everyone was talking about Trump being removed from the ballot.
The issue is in Ohio, the deadline for submitting for the general election
is before the Democratic National Convention, where they name their nominee.
All they have to do is preliminarily, or I guess whatever the word would be,
they have to submit that Joe Biden is the nominee before the convention confirming he's the nominee.
Otherwise, he will not appear on the general election ballot in Ohio.
There will be no Joe Biden.
Why did they schedule their convention for after this deadline?
Well, take a look at this.
This is 270 to win.
This shows the electoral vote count.
And we can see these are toss-up states, the ones that don't have any color.
Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia.
Let's say this.
Let's say Trump wins Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada.
Republicans get 312 electoral college votes.
Congratulations. Trump wins. Now let's say that Texas turns blue. It's now 266 to Republicans
272. The other suspect state of court, of course, is Missouri. That would put Democrats at 276.
So I wouldn't be surprised based on the weird numbers
we're seeing from the Social Security Administration that come November, when they're counting the
votes, they say Trump won all the swing states. Congratulations. Whoa, what's this? An upset in
Texas. Wow. All of those California transplants to Texas must have shifted the vote patterns.
As we know, Beto was pretty close when he when he was running.
And it may be that we have finally seen a big shift because of the California exodus,
which, of course, everybody knows there was a major exodus from California and New York into
Texas. Sure, you can argue those people are more conservative leaning. They'll argue, no,
they were Democrat leaning individuals. That makes sense. Texas goes blue. Missouri goes blue.
And Trump loses. Now, let's say Missouri
doesn't go. Let's say Missouri stays red. They're expecting it to be red. Does anybody believe
Arizona is going to go Republican? Arizona is a toss up state. But let's just say their their
machines stop working like they did with Kerry Lake. Democrats, 277, Republicans, 261. They don't
need. So so why is it there's a news report that Biden won't be on the ballot in
Ohio? That shouldn't even be a possibility. You've got these the polls coming out saying Trump is
ahead in all swing states. And then you look at the Social Security, Social Security Administration.
And for some reason, there's one point five million newly registered voters in Texas who
don't have IDs. So don't be surprised
if this is what happens
in, you know,
come the end of the year.
I'm not saying it will happen.
I'm just saying
Texas gives them the win.
Be on your toes.
If you guys are listening out there,
you Biden's handlers
and all you guys,
you better get them on the ballot in Ohio.
It's going to look real fishy.
I mean, if you want to cover your tracks.
You're just saying that
because you're from Ohio.
I'm just saying,
maybe you're on the other side
or something.
We're all on the same team here.
We're trying to make a better world. So let's, you saying, maybe you're on the other side or something. We're all on the same team here. We're trying to make a better world.
So let's, you know, if you're going to cheat,
do it in a secret way where we don't know or something.
So there's no crazy civil war.
The Missouri thing is crazy.
I think considering the swing state polling,
look, there's a shadow campaign.
If you think that they launched a shadow campaign,
according to Time Magazine, they did,
in 2020, and they're not working on something now.
You're nuts.
This is shadow.
How did you come across these numbers, by the way, last last week?
When the Social Security Administration shadow to end wokeness?
I don't know if on Twitter on X.
I don't know if they were the ones who actually found the data first, but they posted about it.
It went massively viral.
We pulled it up.
And I think what they missed is that while everybody was concerned about the large number
of voters with no IDs for some reason, I believe it was us that actually caught in real time
on the show.
Twenty three thousand deceased people tried to register in one week.
How that happens?
Sure.
Sure.
Somebody found a box of registrations that were three or four months old and were like,
why haven't these been submitted?
And twenty three thousand people died in three months, I that seemed like a lot yeah texas okay no this
is missouri is this missouri okay whoever like that seems like a lot of people it's even more
pronounced in missouri 20 000 it's the ratio that a fourth it's less than a it's like almost a third
it's a lot two two-fifths of uh of the voters just were dead that's or two-fifths of the registrants were dead already that doesn't make or a fifth or fourth or third. It's a wild two, two fifths of a, of the voters just were dead.
That's our two fifths of the registrants were dead already.
That doesn't make her a fifth or fourth or third.
Even that's all those numbers are insane.
Insane.
Especially with those high numbers of the 80,000,
even Arizona this past week had 25,000 registrations with no IDs.
I think there's a decent probability.
What we're seeing is someone's got a DMV database and someone's got a voter registration database and they cross-reference and eliminate all
duplications. So they only get people on the DMV list who are not registered to vote and then
begin registering these people on their behalf without them knowing. And the reason why they
don't have IDs is because if you are trying to register as someone else,
you wouldn't have their ID.
You wouldn't have their ID number.
You wouldn't be able to.
Right.
Now, I do believe there is another potential issue here.
Some have said these are illegal immigrants who are getting work permits.
The interesting thing is that what this website says, the Social Security Administration says,
when you register
to vote, they submit your paperwork to the Motor Vehicle Administration, which then runs a check
to see if you have an ID. If you don't, they then kick it to the Social Security Administration.
I don't know for a fact they do this for every application. It may be that if you say,
I don't have an ID, they go, okay, no ID,
check a box, fill in your last four of your social, and then it bypasses the Motor Vehicle
Administration and goes straight to the Social Security Administration. However, based on what
they say, when you look at it, it says the state submits the last digit of the SSN name and date
of birth to the Motor Vehicle Administration for verification with SSA. If that's the case, they say the states are required to verify the driver's license number
against the state MVA database.
It could be that the first thing that happens is the MVA gets the paperwork, sees the name
and social, runs it through the system and sees no driver's license and then says, OK,
no ID, send it to SSA.
If that's the case, then these are people with no IDs for some reason.
If it's that the MVA doesn't even bother to look up if you have an ID based on your name or social,
and it goes straight to the Social Security Administration,
then it could be someone is registering tons of people on their behalf secretly.
Or it could just be that tons of people with no IDs have decided just today to sign up and then a lot of them died.
It's that 20,000 of 80,000.
They're dangerous for them to do this.
Even if the DMV was only sending to the Social Security Administration the registrants that had no ID, having 20,000, having a fourth of them be dead a week later is like, what in the hell is going on?
That's not right.
That's an anomaly that's not right that that's that's a an anomaly
that needs to be investigated i feel like maybe if i didn't have a valid idea i just wouldn't
register to vote in that state for a while just to be on the safe side of not falling into the
death pool oh i see what you're saying it's too it's too high of a risk too high of a risk yeah
i mean this is a voter suppression is this what they're doing it's a very subconscious voter
suppression attack no it's not.
I don't think.
I don't know, man.
It's freaking me out because this that is not good.
That those Missouri numbers are not good.
That is a very, very bad, bad thing to see.
So do you feel pessimistic?
Are you pessimistic?
I don't know.
I'm kind of riding purse.
I'll let Tim answer.
You're asking.
I don't think it matters.
I think no matter what happens, no one's going to believe it.
Democrats rejected 2016. Republicans rejected 2020. I don't care if you. I think no matter what happens, no one's going to believe it. Democrats rejected 2016.
Republicans rejected 2020.
I don't care if you think you're right or wrong.
That's not the point I'm making.
The point is that this time around, you know, ain't nobody's going to accept what happens.
What does that look like?
I don't know.
You know, I can give you some hypotheses.
We had on this show a couple weeks ago or a week or so ago,
a conversation as to what would happen with the story was that
these illegal immigrants, criminal aliens,
attacked National Guard troops, Texas National Guard at the border
to storm their way into the country.
And my fear is that when the right sees this
and the aftermath was that the national guard were
attacked, the people were arrested and that immediately released into this country on their
own recognizance. And I'm like, wow, this could be the catalyst where red states and cities and
Republicans say there is no longer a United States government. There is only the enclave,
a rogue faction of
people with guns and the people who are willing to listen to them. Because if our National Guard
could be attacked by an outside group of invaders wearing masks and they were armed, these guys had
weapons. They didn't use them. They had weapons and they were masked and they attacked National
Guard. And the response was to stand down and let them in. What happens then in red states
when a bunch of conservatives just say,
okay, that's it.
Whatever you're hearing in the news now,
it's just whoever has the power takes it.
There's no longer a functioning government.
We are not going to be protected.
You got the guy, I think it's in Arizona, an old man,
had someone come onto his property.
Cartels were shooting at each other, something like that.
He claims he defended himself.
Old guy.
George Allen Kelly.
Is that the old guy?
Yeah, yeah.
There were people coming across his property in like camo and combat boots.
And then he says that like he heard a gunshot, came out of the porch.
And then later a body was discovered on his property.
Now he's been charged with murder.
Right.
And so this is a guy who a non-citizen, a foreign individual from another
country illegally entered his property, was found dead, and they're arresting and charging him for
murder. At a certain point, you're going to get a group of guys who are going to say, okay,
the government's not only not going to protect us, they're going to try and kill us. And what
happens when these guys then go out and set up checkpoints, when they go outside of barricades
around their town or neighborhood and say, we don't recognize this government anymore. Now, the interesting thing on the show was that I was
told at the time by the guest that it was not possible. It could never happen. It would never
happen that individuals in this country would stop believing in the power of government.
And if they ever did, the government would quickly come in and just shut them down.
Which brings me to my next story.
We have this story from ABC 7 News video.
Early morning Bay Bridge sideshow fireworks temporarily block westbound lanes.
Have you guys seen the videos that went viral from this?
No.
Extremists, rogue actors, random crazy people took over the Bay Bridge in SF. They took it over.
There's a video of a guy in his car. They're banging on the car. One guy jumps through his sunroof and he's cowering with his hands up like, please don't hurt me. Please. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
They rip him from his vehicle, take and start spinning donuts on the bridge. And everyone
said, where are the police? Let me see if I can play
some. Quite a sight. Overnight traffic on the Bay Bridge came to a halt. So a guy tried driving
across it in the wee hours of the morning and they took his car from him while he cowered in fear.
And this is exactly what I'm talking about. When people start believing
that there is no governing authority and they have no fear for police, either because the police are
impotent and unable to do anything, or they just feel that they can fight back and there's no more
monopoly on violence, they'll take whatever they want. Conservatives don't behave the same way
urban, I don't know what you would describe these people as Conservatives don't behave the same way urban,
I don't know what you would describe these people as, I don't know, rogue actors, criminals, gangs,
or whatever. We saw this with the far left already. Back in 2020, when they literally took over
city blocks in numerous cities and created their own autonomous zones, it's happened already.
My fear is we are moving towards, especially after this election, an instance
where conservatives start behaving in a similar but different way. Similar in that they too decide,
you know what? Maybe these gangs in San Francisco and Chicago, maybe they're right. There's no
police. There's no law enforcement. There is a gang that sends agents from D.C. to attack people,
but there's not that many of them nationally with 327 million people. None of these people who took
over a bridge that believes a federal crime have any fear whatsoever as to what could happen to
them. Antifa also none of that fear. They firebombed Cop City, a police training facility.
Now, many of them have been charged at the state level, but the feds don't do anything
about it.
What happens when people on the right in rural areas say, yeah, they're right.
There's no government anymore.
We better do it ourselves.
It's like tried that in a small town.
Isn't that what that what that went around?
I will try that in a small town.
I mean, is that what you're talking about?
Like people, militias in towns?
Well, stop. Try that in a small town was basically pointing, is that what you're talking about? Like people, militias in towns? Well, stop.
Try that in a small town was basically pointing the finger at Antifa and saying, if you come
here, we'll defend ourselves.
Right.
What I'm saying is what happens when just like these people think cops can't do nothing
about nothing.
Federal agents drive up to a small town of 4000.
And before they can even get into the town, they're greeted by two guys in body armor with
rifles and helmets, and they put their hands up and say, what can we do for you? And the feds say,
you can get out of our way. I said, sorry about that. You got to turn right around right now.
You're not welcome in this place. And they say, well, we're a federal agency. We have badges.
And they laugh and they say, you got 10 seconds to turn around. The right will act very differently
to the way the left does. We saw this withunt the bundy standoff where you actually had there's a photo of a guy pointing a rifle down looking over
from the bridge my fear is that i mean this this stuff out of san francisco is is just absolutely
insane people across the around the world can see that there is no more social order in this
country not the point though i mean to weaken perhaps in this country. Isn't that the point though? I mean, to weaken-
You know, to weaken America to the point where,
you know, world government looks, I guess, appealing because we just can't handle ourselves anymore.
But what happens when the right
adopts the same lack of confidence?
You don't think that exists right now?
You mean they just act on it?
I would say right now, conservatives, the way they like, we're going to get Mike Johnson
in and then we're going to pass it.
We're going to block this, the bill.
While Republicans are screaming and begging for Congress, you've got elements of the left
firebombing buildings, killing people in the streets.
You've got gangs.
I don't want to call them leftists.
They're just gangs.
These are, these are, these are, this is a city where gangs have just taken over.
They, and it's not the only time we've seen these street takeovers.
They happen all over the place.
Police do nothing.
They're, they're, how can, how can a police department stop 3,000 people who have taken
over a street?
I was thinking in this situation, if you, i don't know how long it takes for the national guard to spin up but you block
the bridge on both sides you have all your guns pointed at the bridge from all angles you may even
bring a tank out but then what would that do a standoff and then would people get shot and killed
and that would be like a probably ugly scene yeah because i was like this crowd is rowdy they might
charge the people like run at them you'd have to bring in i don't know what 20 city buses to load them all up in cuffs
with cops on each one and then where do you put them and it's like that's the people don't
understand this and it's san francisco like they're gonna release them again right i think
oh yeah i mean that's the other issue they're operating the assumption that National Guard would actually
arrest these people.
The question is, where do they go?
People live in movies.
They do not understand.
Think about how many people live in San Francisco.
Think about how many police are in San Francisco, how many military National Guard are in the
area.
There are what, 10 to one civilian to government force personnel.
I mean, across all from military, National Guard,
federal law enforcement, local law enforcement,
sheriffs, 10 to one.
If you have thousands of civilians,
you don't have a facility to hold them.
What are they gonna do?
I was just thinking about all the video games
I've played over the years
where you have a piss poor leader
and then your country's,
the country's a piss poor leaders
to start having revolutions and riots and I'm like why do they
lose the people lose loyalty when the when the leader is terrible like the impotence of Joe
Biden to step up to put some authority behind like the protection of its citizens is like
and Trump did the same thing during these riots like after uh George Floyd died day two dude
National Guard red alert and And where were they?
He waited and waited and it got worse and worse.
And it's like, I know you don't want to seem
like a fascist dictator that you're the one
that's blamed for the National,
four dead in Ohio.
I went to Kent State, four kids got killed
by the National Guard Vietnam protest in 1970
on May 4th.
It was freaking tragic.
And that times 10,
no one wants to have their name on that.
But at the same time, if you do nothing, it gets bigger and then it gets bigger and they
take a little and then they take a little and then all of a sudden you've got an actual
revolution.
So you need to do something to stop this.
My concern is that the only faction of people in this country right now who actually believe
it exists are Trump supporters.
Actually believe what exists? trump supporters actually of what
exists the country oh oh okay the democrats think the supreme court should be uh a variety of things
dissolved expanded it's illegitimate they uh support the autonomous zones the suspension
of rights in certain areas they do not believe in the constitution they call this country white
supremacist they pushed pushed the 1619 Project.
They despise this country
and they don't want it to exist.
Agreed.
They're teaching our children
to hate this country.
Then you have roving gangs
of people who don't care
whether it does or doesn't.
And then you have Trump supporters
waving their little flags
being like,
we love America.
You asked earlier,
what do conservatives do
if they get fed up
with the system
and they lose confidence in the system?
And a positive thing that I've seen, I don't know if all of them are conservatives.
People will say, you're not doing it, so I'm going to do it.
And they'll build systems that the government can't do, like free software social networks.
Things that are replicable among the masses without any kind of oversight.
We'll build our own water pipes.
If you're not going to give us water and you're going to, we'll have to build our own water pipes then.
Okay.
But it's not always a conservative person person but those are people that are willing to
conserve the nature of reality they're willing to make their own to keep things going i'm happy
to be a part of that movement by building minds things like that you know yeah i think it is an
interesting um balance between people who have sort of um a loyalty and maybe an optimism about what, I mean,
that's the whole MAGA movement, right?
Make America Great Again, versus the sort of very serious power of people who enjoy
destruction, right?
Like if you don't believe in your country and you're willing to destroy it and see everything
around you crumble, then you are actually in some ways more powerful because you don't
feel the need to preserve anything.
Preserving things is more difficult, in my opinion.
Absolutely, building things is harder than destroying them.
Yeah, talking about life, like this nihilism,
do you guys ever get waves of nihilism?
It's been creeping in and out of me
over the last five months, two years.
Is that what you think the like bridge thing is,
just nihilism?
This thing, people that just don't care about
if they die tomorrow,
they're just out for a nice piece of food yeah i think a lot of that is i don't i don't i
don't think these people are smart enough to understand nihilism or the feelings of nihilism
they just are nihilistic i don't think they have any do they have a vision of the future if they
don't then they're nihilistic or just i i disagree i think to be nihilist requires some kind of
philosophical understanding.
These people are just like, oh, wow, so fun.
Oh, man, they're not thinking anything. They live in the moment.
In the next five minutes, when you talk to teachers about it and the way that kids engage,
they're not making long-term plans.
They're not thinking about what they're going to do in the future.
It's just, entertain me for five minutes.
Entertain me for five minutes.
These are not people who are going, man, nothing matters.
So I'm going to go on a bridge and do a sideshow.
These are people who are like, yo, all the boys are going to drive their cars.
Let's go.
That's what they're thinking.
It's very short term impulsivity.
But also this is their mission in their life.
Like their community is a bunch of people who do sideshows and show up.
And that's their culture.
So that's, I would say that's the opposite of nihilism.
There's many leftists who are nihilistic.
And they're actually people who are like,
I sat here and I thought about it.
I couldn't find a reason to live.
So screw it.
These people are just having fun.
YOLO.
Just short-term thinking people.
Like there's a lot of those people.
Why do you play guitar?
Because I like it.
Why do they do side shows?
Because they like it.
That's it.
And also it sounds good and it heals me when it vibrates.
There's a lot of reasons.
And they're useful.
They're very useful.
I mean, there's a number of reasons why this is happening.
Are they testing different choke points in different areas?
I think that they're driven to do certain things.
You know, I don't even think they know why they're doing.
They're just useful outer circle idiots.
Yeah.
Like, are we going to be able to take the bridge next time?
Like, you think they're testing the waters?
Yeah, I think they're doing it in a lot of different places.
You see it across the country. in major, like, transportation areas.
I mean, I'm sure that there's someone that's saying, like, you know, let's just see what this looks like.
And you drive people out to do things.
You sense it's more organized?
I think that there are, like, seeds that are planted.
I absolutely think that in, like, they're learning lessons constantly.
They learn lessons in 2020 about how far they could go and what they could get away with.
I mean, I think ultimately making America a weak country so that the people can be controlled is the goal.
I mean, we see it.
I can't think of any other reason why we don't teach kids how to read or do math in school.
I mean, if they're reliant on the government, that's a good thing for the left.
But I do think that a lot of this is strategic and just trying to see how they can navigate in
some of the cities maybe for what this summer looks like. I don't know. You have dour predictions
about the summer? You don't think it's gonna be good? I think it's probably gonna be violent. I
mean, I think in like the Chicago area, you know, I mean, during the convention, I think we'll see
some violence this summer, unfortunately. I mean, I, you know, I don't
want to. I'm a mom. It's hard, you know, as a nation, you see a nation breaking down and watching
people fighting and so much conflict. The kids are being pitted against each other in school.
How do you talk about, you know, the state of America with your kids? Like, are your kids
more optimistic than most? Are they still looking to just be entertained for five minutes? Like, where does this fit in? Yeah, I think most
people who have children are pretty optimistic about the future. I think you kind of have to
be a stakeholder in the future. You engage in an interesting way. And so how do you talk about the
future with your kids? I mean, in a positive manner, you know, and you're not going to fail,
you know, but my kids know what I do. And they're watching what's happening. And positive manner, you know, and you're not going to feel, you know, but my kids know what I do and they're watching what's happening.
And the kids, you know, they see the news.
They're on social media.
I have teenagers.
I think they're concerned.
They're worried about, you know, I'm sorry.
I think that they are concerned to a certain degree.
Certainly my older teenagers are watching what's happening across the country.
Yeah. I mean, and my kids will tell me's happening across the country. Yeah, I mean,
and my kids will tell me
I have a son in private school.
I mean, excuse me,
in public school.
I have two,
my youngest two,
I moved out of public school,
but still one.
And they'll tell me all the time,
like, mom,
there are kids in my class
that can't even read.
How old is he?
16.
Sophomore.
There was a scandal
when I was in college,
but there was,
there were football players
at University of Connecticut
that couldn't read.
Yes.
They were there on like an athletic scholarship.
Like this is the system that we currently have in education.
It seems awful to me.
Yeah.
How do you have only 14 percent of kids reading in eighth grade and the graduation rates like
87 percent like reading remediations and happening in those grades like that?
It's just graduation inflation.
They're graduating all these kids and then they're out, you know, doing donuts on the Bay Bridge.
I think public schooling has been a scam literally the entire time.
I don't think there was ever a period in which public schooling was good.
Fair enough.
John Dewey, when John Dewey started the public school system to make people good little factory workers.
Wait for the bell.
Don't speak until you're called upon.
Military.
Get ready to join the military when you're out of here.
Sit still.
Be silent.
Follow orders.
Like that's, they turned, that was like 1920s or something that they did?
Yeah, I'm not going to sit here and like defend the origins of public education or what it
wanted to achieve.
I just think right now it's a really key piece.
And like you talk about the culture war, Tim, and about, you know, how do you win a culture
war?
You engage in the culture.
And I think for a long time, conservatives haven't engaged in some of these areas.
And so with the schools,
we have to engage
because we'll lose our country eventually if we don't.
It doesn't matter what we do.
If the schools continue the way they are,
then we lose the country.
You think it's because there's too many kids
and there's not enough teachers?
No.
Why they're just shoving kids through
without making sure they can read?
Like they don't have enough attention?
I think the problem is schools shouldn't
exist this is just poorly constructed organized like they're just boring as hell i mean i thought
it was boring it should all be pod based schooling in this country should all be like
every super small scale of like local parents taking turns like farmhouse style kind of yep yeah and the problem is that we just decided to give up
responsibility for raising our children yep so uh the example i often cite is you go back 100 years
and the son works with the dad dad goes to work and the kid goes to help him nowadays dad goes to
work and kid has no idea what his dad does.
And then the dad comes home and says,
what'd you do in school?
And he was like, nothing.
And so what do you get?
It's obvious.
You get generation for,
you do this for three generations.
You get a generation of people
who have learned nothing from the past.
They've acquired no skills.
You know, someone super chatted us.
The reason why the boat crashed
into the Francis Scott Key Bridge is because boomers weren't passing anything down to the
next generation it's it's a one of the first generations probably starting with the greatest
generation actually where and and maybe because of the war that kids separated from their parents
just isolated and then you get the first massive expansion of
that with boomers. And typically the boomers are having millennial kids, but some, some
younger Gen X and stuff like that. But these millennials, I mean, I think about how,
how I grew up and all my friends grew up. We did not. Well, I actually would say I was
fortunate enough that I worked at the family business. My mom opened a coffee shop and I
worked there on the weekends with my family. And I think that was massively
beneficial to me and helping me run a business and things like that. But the average person,
I mean, my friends were going out riding their bikes at 13 while their dad and mom were working
or doing whatever. They were literally doing no work. Then they get older and they're like,
I don't want to work. I don't want to do anything.
They don't know what their parents did.
They don't know how to do anything related to finance.
And they're left in their 20s
when they should be getting married and having kids
completely clueless as to how the world works.
Did you make your kids get jobs?
Yeah, my kids, well, I don't make them.
They like to have money.
And my son is a very industrious young man.
He started a window washing business and that was very good. So yeah, I mean, they like to have money. And my son is a very industrious young man. He started a window
washing business and that was very good. So yeah, I mean, they like to have money and we live in a
place where they can kind of have a little bit of independence and we encourage that.
How old were they when they started working?
Oh, my daughter started babysitting at like probably 11 or 12. Yeah.
That's a good age to start working. That's when I started at 12. I started walking a dog,
the neighbor's dog. Just a simple local family job, babysitting. One of the best arguments, we had this bill in
Florida that they wanted to ban social media for 15 and 14 year olds. And I had a dad come forward.
And one of the best arguments I heard against doing that was his son had a business. And he
said, my son advertises using social media. This is part of, you know, I encourage capitalism in my home.
And he's like,
I really don't want the government to tell me
that he can't do that
because it's healthy for him at the age of 15.
It was really interesting.
That is interesting.
I fully agree with that.
I cannot stand these people
trying to ban the internet for kids.
Ban this stuff.
Like police or children.
It's not the government's job.
Yeah, it's a parenting issue.
Yeah.
I think right now companies are incentivized
to have children at an early age.
You think kids should be allowed to go to porn stores?
No, of course not.
Then why should they be allowed on the internet?
You want to ban kids from the internet completely?
Yes, 100%.
My issue with HB1 was that
it was specifically focused on a couple apps,
and it was for 15- and 14-year-olds, no parental authorization included in it.
And I asked someone who was very close to the bill, I said,
how do the kids access the apps?
And they said, well, what do you mean?
I said, well, on a PC?
And he said, well, no, of course not.
They, you know, access it on a phone.
And I said, okay, so phones are really bad for kids.
I mean, we know that.
So should we just say that kids can't have phones?
Yes.
Okay.
So the other, the other answer, which may be the better compromise is that websites
are required to ID verify if they're containing,'re containing illicit materials. We need to assess whether or not social media
is addictive and destructive like nicotine or any other substance. We know that Instagram,
for instance, increases levels of depression. Or I should say, there are numerous studies that
women develop, young girls get depressed, less so boys, but young people generally experience
social anxiety and depression because of likes and because of shares.
They're not getting enough followers, things like that.
And it's intentionally designed to be addictive.
Ian actually can attest to this,
having worked on minds.com.
Yeah, we had plenty of conversations
about how addictive should we make it?
It's like a slot machine.
And I thought like it's 83% too unethical.
I feel like that's really unethical
to make it that addictive.
Like I don't want to make it addictive, but then the company fails if it's not addictive. So youethical to make it that addictive like i i don't
want to make it then the company fails if it's not addictive so you've got to make it addictive to
get him keep coming back so we have a form of digital fentanyl digital drugs getting kids
hooked and addicted there's no id requirements so children can literally go into any app and
download i'm not just talking about porn they can download snuff and they can watch people get
screwdrivers jammed into their skulls
with hammers. The moral argument
I make is that I think...
Here's the issue with keeping kids
off the internet in general.
Perhaps it's like you got to be 13.
Perhaps it's
if a website is going to be displaying
like you go to the movies
NC-17. You got to have an ID.
Yeah, but apparently America's just forgotten that, Tim, like age appropriateness.
I mean, movie ratings are a perfect example.
It's very clear.
They're very direct about what's included and how they're rated.
And then on the internet, a kid can go on a website and watch a murder happen.
So instead of saying, let's do nothing, either we pull a big ask, which is anyone under the age of 13 is banned
from internet access. And of course they'll still find ways to get it. Doesn't matter.
Then we just hold responsible whoever was giving access. Like if an adult gives a kid a snuff video,
the adult gets in trouble. Then we can say 14, 15, and 16 require some kind of parental approval
for access. And then, or we compromise and say, websites are required if they're going
to be presenting NC-17 materials to verify the notification of the individual absorbing those
materials. Otherwise they will be held criminally responsible. And I think that's happening now.
You're seeing age verification for pornography at 18. The issue with that bill for us and for me
was really there was no parental authorization piece. And I'm really concerned about the
government, what the government,
what the government can and can't tell you to do with your kids.
Right now they're supporting kids getting healthy body parts cut off.
And they'll tell you that they have a lot of studies that say
that kids will kill themselves if you don't let them do that.
And so I just kind of look at that.
And I want all of the policy to be really in service of fundamental rights,
protecting our fundamental rights, certainly as a parent,
that the government doesn't give you those rights.
And then be in service of limited government.
So I think there are a lot of questions to ask,
I think because of tech accelerating so quickly,
that we need to be aware of all of the different ways
it's touching our lives and try to have good policy
because there's a real sense of urgency for people
to start making legislation around this, but that can bring some really bad policy, too.
I think the challenging thing for us is that nobody wants to quit the drugs.
You know, how is it that someone who's addicted to a substance decides that they're going to stop?
Purpose.
That's how I do it.
Or they hit rock bottom, right?
Like things get really bad and they're like, I have to try and change this thing, which
for teenagers, the cost of being addicted to the internet is high.
Yeah.
And so for people who say do drugs, they're doing hard drugs, they're addicted, let's
say heroin or something.
Perhaps it's rock bottom.
I don't know that it's true.
Some people just die.
No matter what their family does, they try to get them help. But if you read anything about Narcotics Anonymous and stuff like that, it's people themselves have to choose to stop and
there's nothing you can do. You can certainly talk to them. You can persuade them. You can
explain to them what it's doing. You can have interventions, but the change only happens when that individual decides they have to change and they seek help
themselves. So the issue I see with that is when it comes to gambling, there are 12 casinos within
two to three hours from where we are right now. 12. That is insane. Absolutely insane.
People are going to keep voting to allow to allow other people to engage in harmful, pleasurable,
short-term activities until they disintegrate.
I think your illusion or your metaphor with the internet and drugs is interesting.
And there are a lot of drugs on the internet in that way, your mental drugs.
But personally, I feel like the internet is a greater boon than it is a drawback for society.
And that honestly, in the
future, our children are going to be the ones that build a better system. Like Thomas Jefferson was
26. There's going to be some 14-year-olds in a chat room crafting a new constitution or amendments
to the constitution, and they'll be giving. So if we ban them from the process of learning on the
internet, that could be really, really, it would just really solidify the power structure that's already here and that wants to be here. And I have a lot of faith in the children
of humanity, but I do believe guidance is necessary. And that's why I put that on the
parents. I just like to see a lot more energy being put into the idea of supporting good
parenting and working together. What age should a child get a cell phone? Again, the only way out
is through, so let's only way out is through.
So let's have honest conversations about it.
How is it really affecting kids?
What would be an appropriate age?
Can we talk, you know, I spoke at an event about TikTok and I said, okay, parents, you can wait for the government to ban TikTok or you just take it off your kid's phone.
And then if I take it off and you take it off, then we're all mean together.
But none of the kids have TikTok in our, even in your own small community small community start there to your point of the schoolhouse idea you know make that change
happen at that point actually i got a better idea for you okay join tiktok and use it because it was
amazing how they utilized tiktok to get out supporters is there any way that the left that
the right can do that yeah what you do is you tell your kids,
you're really excited that you're on TikTok now too,
and you're going to start adding their friends.
Instead of mom's celebrity TikTok.
And then you start doing the corniest things,
and you embarrass them.
You come out on every single one of their friends' posts.
And you say, when Johnny first had the biggest snot bubble in his face,
and we all laughed.
It was so cute.
You should see him when he gets mad,
because he can't have extra scoops
of ice cream. They would just run for the hills.
They would be like,
they'd lose it. What's it happen with Facebook?
Once everyone's parents started
joining, they were like, I don't want to be on this
because now you're like, you're in
college or you're like in high school
and your mom comments on
your, like this girl you're crushing on and
she's like, it was so cute when he,
you know,
when he was a little baby.
Here's a picture of him as a baby.
He still sucked his thumb until age 11.
Yep.
Yeah.
He wet his bed till he was eight.
Yeah.
They're gonna go,
oh my God.
It's a good strategy.
I think I'm gonna go back
and speak to the moms about that.
TikTok's gonna be like,
stop,
get the moms off.
That's right.
Yeah. Did you guys do moms? Did you guys, were you on there? Moms for Liberty, was it on TikTok? No, we're not. TikTok's going to be like, stop, get the moms off. That's right. Yeah.
Did you guys do moms?
Did you guys, were you on there?
Moms for Liberty, was it on TikTok?
No, we're not on TikTok.
Just because, I mean,
because I'm not a big TikTok fan.
How do you feel about it ethically,
just the entire process of TikTok?
What do you mean?
Like China and stuff?
Well, it's a Chinese company,
ByteDance, which is kind of
beholden to the CCP,
running a social network in our country
with proprietary code.
It's concerning.
I think it's valid.
But I mean, Thomas Massey got up when he was speaking about it.
And he was like, everybody's phones from China.
Why aren't we talking about anything else?
We're talking about TikTok specifically.
I think there's a broader conversation to happen about China in general and how we move
forward.
But I guess it's a good conversation starter.
Everything has to be sexy now in order for us to talk about it.
It has to be controversial and TikTok.
With the TikTok thing, they were like, let's ban it.
I'm like, no, no, no.
I don't think that's the right move because then that's going to give them authority to
ban other stuff.
I'm like, just make them free their software code if they want to operate in the States
so that we all have access to it.
And they'll say no.
They'll shut down in the United States if you do that.
You'll get your ban.
Or they'll show you their code and you'll be like, wow, they were spying and they were
moving data directly to the sea through all these things.
And look how they tweaked your algorithm when you said that word, stuff like that, which
would be super beneficial to humanity in the United States.
I hope they go that route.
I hope they go that route.
It's just about, I think, bringing awareness to Congress and letting them understand the
idea of free software and open source code and verifying algorithms and things.
Is Brazil banning X?
Is that actually happening?
This is nuts.
We should talk about this.
Did you get any follow-up?
If you guys got any follow-up?
So apparently the,
the,
the,
was it the attorney general and the president of Brazil are like,
take down all these accounts on X Elon.
Or,
and he's like,
no.
And they're like,
these are people are considered like felons in Brazil.
I don't want to,
I don't want to mull this story.
Here's a story from CBS news,
Brazil Supreme court investigating Elon Musk over obstruction and disinformation on X.
They say a crusading Brazilian Supreme Court justice included Elon Musk as a target in an ongoing investigation over the dissemination of fake news and opened a separate investigation late Sunday into the executive for alleged obstruction. In his decision, Justice Alexandre de Moraes noted that Musk on
Saturday began waging a public disinformation campaign regarding the top court's actions,
and that Musk continued the following day, most notably with comments that his social media
company X would cease to comply with the court's orders to block certain accounts.
Quote, the flagrant conduct of obstruction of Brazilian justice, incitement of crime,
the public threat of disobedience of court orders and future lack of cooperation from the platform are facts that disrespect the sovereignty of Brazil, he wrote.
Musk will be investigated for alleged intentional criminal instrumentalization of X as part of an investigation into a network of people known as digital militias who allegedly spread defamatory fake news and threats against Supreme Court justices, according to the text of the decision.
The new investigation will look into whether Musk engaged in obstruction,
criminal organization, and incitement.
So there's people on X that are apparently, allegedly,
spreading mis- or disinformation about the justices of Brazil,
the Supreme Court justices of Brazil, and so they want those people banned off X.
And Elon's like, they're not saying anything illegal in the United States,
which is where we're based, so we're not going to ban them. And Elon's like, they're not saying anything illegal in the United States, which is where
we're based.
So we're not going to ban them.
And now I don't know what's going to happen.
Normally what happens in this situation is the country just blocks X.
Brazil will just block it in the country.
I mean, that's normally what China does.
So I don't know.
It's a horrible look for Brazil if they were to do something like that.
Yeah.
Elon announced he'd remove all restrictions from Brazil now because he was like, screw
him.
Free speech.
Interesting.
He's fighting in Australia too.
My friend, Chris Elston, that tweet,
I think it was like an $800,000 fine or something
that they wanted to, and Elon, they're fighting it.
That was crazy.
What was that?
What was it?
It was misgendering maybe.
I think it was around-
Billboard Chris tweeted like a story from the Daily Mail
and it was like a sentence.
It was like one sentence.
And they said that it was intentionally
hateful and misgendering of a person
so it had to be pulled.
And because
Elon's like, I'm not going to do it, they're
finding... It sort of just reminded me of that toilet paper
in the shot the entire show, apparently.
I blow my nose from time to time.
It's been such a great conversation starter in Australia
though. The story's huge. Chris is is actually going there he's going to fly
out to australia and he's getting a ton of support so i think a lot of this stuff is sometimes you
know you make lemonade with it it gets the information out and then maybe we can advance
there are people around the world who want to normalize gdp they want to basically homogenize
the planet and it's horrible imagine every downtown downtown, a McDonald's, a Starbucks.
Every tourist location you go to is just Hard Rock Cafe, Bubba Gump Shrimp, and Dolce or something.
J.Crew.
Maybe that's how they stop people from flying places to save carbon or whatever.
Because everywhere is the same, so why go anywhere?
Well, the way they do that is by having planes fall apart.
Oh, gosh. You see the Boeing thing?
Oh, my gosh. Working on two-fold right now.
What happened? The Southwest one with the
I know it's just the engine cover. I don't know.
People are like, it was just the engine cover. It's not a big deal.
It's a big deal. Like, you're watching
the thing just fall coming off.
And people are like, this stuff happens all the time.
It's just that no one ever talks about it on the internet.
B.S. Do we've had the internet for 20
years? There was just this expose.
You would know about this stuff.
We've had the ubiquity of smartphones and phone cameras since 2005 or 6.
People have had flip phones where they could take pictures.
If this stuff was happening, dude, if you were on a plane and the engine cover blew
off, there'd be 20 pictures of it.
That's what happened.
And they're like, nah, it happens all the time.
Dude, I worked at O'Hare.
I worked for American Eagle Airlines.
Not once in the two years I worked there did anything happen in any of the periphery of of
where i was working the the terminals next to me on either side and the flights i worked on
never did we get any word or witness anything related to door panels blowing off or engine
covers breaking off or wheels breaking there
there there were sometimes maybe like a landing gear error of some sort we saw those i will shout
out in midway airport a southwest plane hit the runway and midway is crazy midway airport is in a
residential neighborhood it makes no sense to me it's surrounded by houses and it's a mile and a
half it's a uh it's one square mile it's got a mile and a half of runway so when you take off
from midway that they lock the brakes jam the engines to full blast and then release the brakes
and you go boom like a rocket to take off so the plane landed skidded on ice and then and ripped
through the wall and crashed onto uh was it Central Avenue, I believe?
And so we were all right there, because that's where we lived when it happened.
And we looked down the street.
You could see this plane in the middle of the road.
But that is a plane crash due to ice.
It wasn't like the plane broke or anything.
So then I ended up getting a job at O'Hare.
We never saw anything like this.
There were instances where you would see the metallic tape over hardware or whatever
that was normal but it was never really indicative of anything some people would freak out why is
there duct tape on my plane and we'd be like that's like it doesn't mean anything now we're
getting all these crazy stories where doors blow off landing gears are failing we just had the
engine cover blow off yeah i think there's a problem with maintaining these these people are
they're concerned from what i've heard and read and listened that people are concerned
that DEI, you know, diversity, equity, inclusion is getting people that are unqualified to
come in here and build these things.
And do you see that whistleblower that like, I don't know, a month ago when it was a Boeing,
he's about to-
He got shot.
Yeah, he got killed.
Yeah.
And they called it a suicide.
He was about to testify for Boeing and he had all this-
He was in the middle of testifying.
He'd been there for 30 years and he's like, it's not safe working conditions.
Yeah, he was in the middle of testifying and he was about to sue Boeing too, I heard, or he was in the middle of testifying. He'd been there for 30 years and he's like, it's not safe working conditions. Yeah, he was in the middle of testifying.
And he was about to sue Boeing too, I heard.
Or he was in the process of litigating against them.
He was doing his depositions.
And he had maintained his whistleblower statements for years.
And then in the middle of doing depositions, he suddenly was no longer with us.
And Boeing's military industrial complex all the way.
They're not passenger jets.
That's a small part of their business.
They're mainly weapons manufacturing.
And as far as I know, I haven't done the numbers to know exactly. But as far as I can tell, that's a small part of their business they're mainly weapons manufacturing and for the mill as far as i know i haven't done the numbers to know exactly
but as far as i can tell that's a big part of their their business and you mess around with
that you're messing around the most powerful thing on earth but there's like undercover video of
people like being asked would you fly on one of these workers that are there at the factory we're
gonna like hell no i wouldn't fly on one of these it's not safe they're saying the stuff like that
like ah nah i ain't getting on one of those and i's not safe. They're saying the stuff like that. Like, ah, nah, I ain't getting on one of those.
And I was like, come on, how bad can it be?
I've got this like bias of like,
it's only going to get better.
Things don't get worse.
They just get better.
Look at the last 20 years.
Look at the technology.
But like, if you don't upkeep things,
they don't get better.
They fall apart.
And I think that's part of what we're seeing at Boeing, unfortunately.
It's interesting.
Yeah, couple that with no skilled workers, right?
That can go, I mean, again, we're talking about only a third of kids reading on grade level. You invite me on the show, Tim, That's interesting. billion a year that we spend doing it. But yeah, who's going to go and work on the planes?
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Who's going to build beautiful things?
So what would you do to fix our education system?
Would you like to teach kids to read?
I mean, that's the goal always, but who's doing that?
Small pod schools or public schools?
Yeah, I think when possible, the pod schools, homeschooling, if you can do it and you can make that a priority in your lives.
And for young people, if you're watching me and you're thinking to yourself, like, I don't know what to do, like, figure out how you're going to have a family.
And one of you is going to be able to be with the kids and to teach them, right? Don't get yourself into a situation where you can't do that. But in the
public school system, it needs to be, you know, the Federal Department of Education needs to be
dismantled. And we need to put the power back down into the states where it should be. And the
priority should be teaching kids to read. We should incentivize making sure that kids are learning to
read if nothing else. So mom right now just had a little baby should she just read to the kid now it's a little infant
maybe read all the time yeah read to the baby before you have the baby okay so baby listens
to your voice and you know it's incredibly important to read to your kids because they
learn a lot of words and um that really will help them in in their vocabulary later in life
and play memory And play memory.
And play memory.
Great game.
Helps with memory and visualization.
Oh, I love that game.
As well as, it's not just about memory, it's about visualization.
Have you ever heard of a game called Rat Attack Cat?
Mm-mm.
It's a really fun game.
What is that?
It's a card game where you get four cards,
you get to look at the outer two,
and then you can't look at them again.
And then you have to swap
you can swap it's a fun game but memory
it's kind of like a memory game for you can
we play it with the kids but Mark and I my husband and I will like
make a drink on a Friday night and play
I had Super Mario Brothers
3 and
in Mario 3 sometimes the mushroom
spawns and if you go to
the mushroom you might get the game of memory
where if you match items
you get the item into your inventory and so eventually not only did we get good at the
memory itself where it's like uh actually let me see if i can pull this up so people get
understanding of it the mario 3 memory. So this is like,
this is a video game I would play as a kid.
And this is really great.
You get, I mean, most people probably know Mario 3.
So if you're old enough, you'll know what this is.
These little N cards and with a spade on it.
And when you flip over two of them,
if you match them, you get 10 coins.
So, and I think you only get if you fail twice the memory game's over
yeah and you lose the bonus yeah and so you know it's it's not i think i don't think they they
don't show you where everything is first though but what happens is eventually played so much
we actually memorized the patterns of the rotation because there was only like there were only like
eight different actual games yeah so
what we would do is we would always go down to the bottom left like this one right here the second
and then you know which one it was yeah and depending on what it was we would go okay now
i know which one it is and then we would start going and just getting all the items but uh
playing memory with your kids is is really great me and my brother that's one of the great things
about having siblings too especially when they're close in age me and my brother we would just play
the hell out of that game and it was all about who could collect the most pairs who
could get to there were no like bad ones which would be cool to introduce like a villain in
memory maybe not for little little kids because you don't you're just training memory you're not
worried about good and bad yet but in like slay the spire another video game they have a similar
thing but there's things you don't want to get to that you've got to kind of be like i know
rat attack is the same you have rats and cats and you want the low cards.
It's fun. It's a good game. I'm going to send you
Rat Attack. Great freaking game. That and
building blocks, man. Just, I don't know what about
having building, cardboard building blocks
and being able to build little palaces around yourself.
Only for boys, though. Girls, just give them dolls.
Yeah, girls can only play with dolls and
dishes, fake dishes they can learn to wash. What's your take
on that, on like the gendered raising of children?
Did you notice with the girls it was different?
Did you force anything or did you just?
Yeah, I think no child's born in the wrong body.
And certainly, I mean, my daughter had, you know, dolls.
Did the boys play with her toys?
Yeah, of course.
You know, I mean, she got a kitchen.
It was all pink and purple.
The boys played in the kitchen.
It was pink and purple.
I didn't think that I needed to like chop off their penis
and stop their natural development.
Yeah, if I had sisters and they had Barbies,
I would have meshed them in
with my Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for sure.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And to be honest, to be fair,
like some of the Barbies in my house
have met a horrible demise.
There've been experiments that have happened.
Melting?
How flammable Barbies are.
Anybody smash a cat?
I mean, I feel like that's just a stage, you know?
Yeah.
So, I mean, I think boys in general, like in my experience, one girl, three boys, boys
are just more destructive in general.
They like to, you know, mess stuff up, get dirty, you know, break stuff, take stuff apart.
That's just been my general experience.
But I mean, if my daughter wanted to do that, I would have let her do it too.
So, you know, I.
I do like breaking things apart to see what they're made of.
Yeah.
They love that.
That's the best thing.
Everything gets taken apart.
Did you have to teach him how to not break it apart,
but how to disassemble it?
My husband did.
Yeah.
He had to actually use some of the tools to take things apart.
Yeah.
But they've done cool stuff.
They built skateboards.
They've done like the,
you know,
yeah,
they've done some interesting stuff.
They built,
they did,
made a guitar together.
Oh,
cool.
Wow.
They cut the wood and everything. My husband did that. That's awesome. It's beautiful. I'm They made a guitar together. Oh, cool. Very cool. Wow, they cut the wood and everything?
Yeah, my husband did that with them.
Oh, that's awesome.
It's beautiful.
My 14-year-old plays.
Oh, that's great.
The same guitar they built?
Yeah, he plays that one.
He just got a new one for Christmas.
I wanted to ask you, well, we're going to go to Super Chats pretty quick.
Maybe we could talk about Moms for Liberty some more on the after show a little bit,
because I know you're here in town to go speak.
But what is it you're speaking for exactly so people know on the main show too?
So weaponization of the government symposium at Heritage Foundation, where we'll
talk about the fact that the American government is being used against the people to control them
and their actions. And it's just pretty wild. You have moms and dads across the country that get up
at school board meetings and their mics are being shut off and then they're being called domestic
terrorists and the FBI is contacting them.
And it's shocking.
You know, we whistleblowers that say
they're supposed to be taking down license plate numbers
of all the parents that are in the school board meeting.
That's crazy.
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But for now, we'll read your superchats.
Alpha Turkey says,
One day till all white fit
from tim for 1000 episode literally not happening but if they will it maybe you will all right tim
jakes has guessed no one wanted to jump in so i'll be first well unfortunately you were second what
if someone super chad you ten thousand dollars would you wear all white no why not because i
don't have an all white outfit i could maybe maybe give you some of it. If someone,
I don't think,
first of all,
you can only super chip
to 500 bucks.
But if chat revenue
hit $10,000
by the end of this show,
I will seek out
an identical version
of this outfit in white.
That would be amazing.
And yeah.
Go for it.
Make it happen.
That'd be a cool
1,000 show.
That'd be awesome.
There's no way
it can be done by tomorrow.
I got a white shirt you can wear.
It'll take at least a week to put together.
I like a challenge.
We could totally do that outfit in white in the next 24 hours.
Yeah, you got a big team that wants to make it happen.
We'll fan out.
Well, not with that attitude, we can't.
It wouldn't.
Next day shipping, it's gotta happen.
I guarantee it's impossible.
Wow.
Like the clothes that I have.
So, okay, so if you want to do just like a different shirt i
guess yeah but we're totally talking about a different shirt we weren't saying like that
shirt in white is that what i'm talking about thread count style stitching oh we were talking
color but like to wear a white outfit is meaningless like it has to be that outfit
well this is a specific kind of shirt that has a thick
shirt like it's very nice if i just wore like a white button-up i could buy that for a dollar
yeah i see now why it's impossible to do this i didn't understand it wouldn't it would not look
like a white version of it i would just be wearing different clothes i see if there was going to be
a white beanie that comes from i believe it's an Empire, a white True Classic shirt, a white Vulcan button-up,
and then I suppose if we're going,
I'm wearing blue jeans, but...
We only care.
I have socks on right now. It's super complicated.
I might have white Kyle Walker vans
somewhere.
What about... It's cotton. You're over a shirt.
You're button-down. Cotton, so a big cotton shirt.
If you could get it exactly, that's what it's all about.
It's just stitching and styling. if it was just like hey wear
a white outfit tomorrow it's like okay okay you know like if someone's like we want that outfit
in white it's like oh man a white beanie of any kind it would blow people's minds like it's a
signature part of how you present it would be like if your favorite like superhero suddenly
changed their emblem or something you know like people would, no, I don't like this rebrand. Either it's a white
version of what I wear or it's just me wearing
different clothes. So getting
the white version of these things, I'll look and see if
it's possible. Yeah, I know you got the green and the blue.
I have a blue one of these.
It's really old though and I don't wear it anymore.
You went through like a green phase.
What do you like so much about that shirt?
I actually have like 10 of these. Yeah, what do you like? Just the weight of it? No, it's just the shirt that I wear on the show. I don't wear it when I'm's like a green face what do you like so much about that shirt what is it about i actually have like 10 of these yeah what do you like it's just the weight of it no
it's just the shirt that i wear on the show i don't wear it when i'm not on the show oh okay
yeah you never wear that shirt out when you're not on the show well yeah i'll get it dirty and
destroyed okay so typically when i'm outside i'm wearing like baseball tees okay so people who see
me when i'm out doing stuff like i'll be wearing like a black and gray baseball tee or something
i have a couple blue ones i have a brown one and I have brown pants.
The first brown pants are only for certain events when you're getting worried about what's
going on outside.
You know what I mean?
I'm going to get down and dirty with the chickens.
No, I'm talking about when you're scared.
Oh, that kind of brown pants.
I actually do.
I have a pair of brown Volcams that I've had for 12 years And I was skating in them and the crotch finally exploded,
which is what happens when you skate.
And I tried getting iron on patches and sewing them on.
It didn't work.
You just buy new pants.
You can't get these ones anymore, I don't think.
Yeah, I tried buying the newer version.
It's different materials and it's just not the same.
I hate when that happens.
I do too.
And why do they change stuff without like,
why did you change it?
Like makeup, they'll do that.
They'll just discontinue a color it's like did anyone
ask nobody asked for this you're like the fifth person today that's asked me for that i'm like
so obviously you were selling it then come on team yeah i don't know why they do that
all right what we got here kalishnikov says i tried dr ian's recommended sun gazing method
on staring at the eclipse and now i'm nearly blind. He doesn't know. This message was sent
via speech to text.
You silly liar.
You didn't stare at the sun.
Did anybody look at the ground
under a tree
during the eclipse?
Oh, Richie Jackson
posted on his Instagram story.
He got a video of it.
You could see
all the little crescents.
That's cool.
It's like fractal.
Yeah.
It's weird how that happens
but each break
between the leaves
acts like a pinhole camera
and you can see
little eclipses
all over the ground.
Oh, wow.
That's very cool.
Super crazy.
Now I have two things I missed out on totality in that experience.
Catch them next time, you know?
It's like such a day for me.
Alpha Turkey says, did someone check on Seamus if he raptured?
Well, he did.
He posted a video of it.
He was just floating up into the sky naked.
Yeah, that wasn't surprising to anybody.
I've been seeing
him do that for years he's done it once before apparently shane jwothers is happy monday i hope
everyone who could see the eclipse enjoyed it it was great to have a few moments of reprieve from
all the craziness i have i have bad news to report i tried to view the eclipse through the apple
vision pro it did not work what happened it was just a white blotch in the sky it was like you couldn't even see the sun you literally would actually this is really cool
i recommend um checking into if it's okay for your device to look at the sun with apple vision pro
but i did and the sun what there was no ball of light it was just a splotch of white outlined by the clouds that
were surrounding it but there were weird colors orange purple and green like bursting from the sun
and so i was reading that for women only because men don't have this if you look at the clouds and
you see like orange and purple lining the clouds you are are a tetrachromat, meaning you have a fourth rod and cone in your eye,
and you can see more colors than other people.
Only women, I believe only women have this.
If men have the same mutation,
they're actually colorblind.
And so when I look-
That's so interesting.
Tetrachromat?
Tetrachromat.
Yeah, we should start saying that as like an insult.
Like you're such a tetrachromat.
Are you tetra?
But that's like-
It's a cool thing.
It's like a superpower.
Yeah, I know, but people wouldn't know they'd be like how dare you but when i looked up
at the sun with the apple vision pro i could see the purple and orange in the clouds probably the
camera is interpreting the uv camera's female converting it to a visible spectrum for me and
i was like whoa that looked crazy yeah it looked cool or i was breaking the camera it was frying
because it was looking directly at the sun i don't know maybe did you get it's for science you had to do it you're a boy you're
destructive did you do like the the goggles off i was in an appointment so i didn't see it but did
you do like just look at it normal with glasses we had that we had the eclipse glasses there it's
basically just like triple layer of like film or something and so you can look at the sun through
the eclipse glasses and just see a little little. But then when the eclipse happened, you could see it was pretty cool. And then we filled up a bucket of a bowl of water
and you could, it was still too bright to look at directly.
But when you looked with the glasses at the bowl of water,
you could see the rippling eclipse.
It was pretty funny.
Did the chickens do anything?
Like any animal issues?
No, I didn't notice anything.
I think the issue for the partial eclipse where we were
is that it didn't get noticeably dark. And it's because as it was getting dark, our pupils just dilated. So it
just looked like it was a weird tint outside. Yeah. And then we went back in the house and it
was super dark and we were like, whoa, okay. Now we could realize because it was like in the house,
the lights on, you can tell what it's like at night versus the day when the sun's coming through.
And it was like it was nighttime.
But outside, when it was at 90% and the sun was totally covered, it was dark.
You know?
I really want to know if the dogs run away.
Like, all I heard today was like, keep your dog on a leash.
Keep your dog on a leash.
The dog's going to run away.
They freak out.
Do they?
I mean, is there a video?
Like, I haven't seen on the internet or anything. Have people have people been posting their animals freaking out there's a video from a zoo
where the animals are freaking out giraffes are like running panicking really yeah all right let's
grab some more super chats what have we here sir average joseph's help us in california we are
pushing back legislation that harms children please consider donating to republican maj
rudy raseel for u.S. Congress and CA8.
They had a great ballot initiative there,
Protect Kids CA,
where they wanted to stop
the use of puberty blockers on kids,
stop boys playing in girls' sports.
I don't know if they're going to get
the signatures for it this time,
but it's nice to see blue states
pushing back on some of this.
Yeah.
Rob Morgan says,
to comment on an earlier segment firstborn sons
and daughters are dying all the time they call it dead naming and blame the others for their deaths
so i did a segment where i joked about um the plagues of egypt and i was like you can you can
easily find a story for each of the plagues so there's like a story in the uk about a river that
turned red and no one knows why it's like blood it. It's like dark red. And I'm like,
and then you have like a lice outbreak in Georgia
and you have leprosy on the rise
and like all of these things are happening.
And then I was like,
and then of course we have darkness.
You could argue the three days of darkness
was the wildfires
when the smog blotted out the sun
and created a haze for several days.
Right.
Three days of darkness.
That was weird.
The one plague you can't really find is the mass
death of people's firstborn sons so i was like if that happens we can all collectively be in ukraine
though geez that's true wow you see the the guy with down syndrome in ukraine the soldier he's
got down syndrome and the other soldiers are oh i read it they're making fun of him and they're
but he's like i mean they don't probably don't want him in the company i don't know but he's
it's rough they They're just drafting.
Fix Bayonet says Trump should start calling RFK the legitimate Democrat candidate.
Trump needs to offer debates with RFK trolling Biden to talking about RFK.
Just not an MSNBC.
They might as well be Radio Rwanda.
That's a great idea.
Actually, Trump should say everyone knows RFK Jr.
Is the real Democrat, not Joe Biden.
Joe Biden's not even
campaigning rfk jr is and then all that would do is if trump debated rfk jr is it would give
democrats would support rfk trump's not gonna lose any votes to rfk jr no but i just don't
think that i mean i i don't agree with any of that actually i think um i think that uh trump
can just ignore rfk He only pulls votes from Biden
and debating him would be a mistake and a distraction.
And he should just continue moving forward.
Why would it be a mistake though?
Because I actually think RFK,
given the opportunity, would make some good points.
And I do think that there's some,
you know, like he was supposed to speak
at our summit in Philadelphia and agreed to do it.
He called me at my house. I like walked into my kitchen. It was nine 30 at night. I looked at
my husband. I'm like, he's on the phone. Cause you know, his voice is so, and he agreed to come.
And then like a couple of months and then he backed out and then he went, yeah. And then he
was on like a CNN, I think he did a town hall or Newsmax or something. And some operative Biden
operative said, you know, well, Moms for Liberty is against
gay marriage. And he was like, yeah, well, a staffer, a staffer accepted on my behalf. I was
like, well, that's baloney. And, and then he said, and I canceled when I found out that that was
their position. And that's not our position. And we have gay members. And so I just it was just all
a lie. So wow, he lied. Yeah, a lot. So I don't know.
I mean, but I do think that there were votes in the room for him.
Just to be clear, I do.
People wanted to hear from him.
I think moms of kids who have vaccine injuries through the Children's Health Defense stuff he's done, you know, they they they are hopeful about him or they were.
But our moms after that were pretty disappointed.
It looks like based on how his campaign is going and the kind of words he uses, he may intentionally be trying to pull votes from Democrats.
Maybe the only way it looks.
All right, let's read some more.
What do we have?
Pinochet's helicopter tours says pretty sure stupidity was one of the new plagues.
That means we're being cursed by by very stupid people.
This is the worst plague.
I hate it.
Kyle Steven says,
Tim and Serge,
check out John Ward,
world champion.
He is a wordsmith
and would be a great guest
on the show
and he's not far from you
pushing the culture war.
A wordsmith?
Does that mean he makes up words?
That's awesome.
I love doing that.
Can we all be wordsmiths?
Glibble.
Glibble do.
A recalibrationist.
You know,
you just add like suffixes and prefixes to the common words and you can make longer
and longer words.
That's how I got to regionalism.
Crosslandism.
Yeah.
Crosslandism, for instance.
Anti-crosslandism.
When I started on the school board, I remember visiting a school and it said, had the kids
signing in and it said auto-magically or something.
And I was like, it's not even a word.
Why do we have like a ridiculous, it was something ridiculous.
I was like, this is a public school.
I'm more about, I'm not into the anti-Crosslandism.
I'm more about the post-anti-Crosslandism.
Yeah, yeah.
When the anti-Crosslandists had like a reawakening
after the fact.
Yeah, yeah.
Post-Crossland,
no, well, that would be post would be,
maybe there's a hyphen.
So that would be technically a compound word.
Yeah, you're right.
Post-Crosslandism.
It's so fun to do
when your mind is in like flow state
and you can be like,
it's apoptic i know
apoptosis is a thing so if something is doing god that kind of thing it must be apoptic in nature
that's the adjective that's not making up words if the words are already part of the structures
that exist i don't know if apoptic is an actual word but it makes sense that it would be the
adjective for something that's going through apoptosis i need to know how this guy got a
career as a wordsmith like does one just declare oneself a wordsmith? There's much to know here.
We have to address this one.
You, me, and the movie says,
the thing that shocks me the most about eclipses
is that the moon is the perfect size
and in the perfect distance to block the sun perfectly,
evidence of the divine.
I got to stop you right there.
It's not.
It half is.
Okay, well, I'll give you a technicality on this one.
The reason why people take the total solar eclipse
so seriously is because there are other eclipses where it doesn't fit the sun. Like in October, when we had the annular solar eclipse,
that is the moon is further away from the earth and then it doesn't completely block out the sun.
Then you have the total eclipse, which occurs only when it's in combination with the closest
point to the earth where the moon is largest and in the right position over the sun to create that.
To be fair, that still does create the circumstance where the moon is largest and in the right position over the sun to create that to be fair that still does create the circumstance where the moon is what do they say it's 400th the
size of the sun and 400 times 400th the distance yes creating the perfect uh image that is the
rare moment and that's why it's special but there are many eclipses where uh what is it perigee
is that when the moon is furthest away oh i don't know and it's smallest or am i getting it backed up back is it apogee
or perigee i'm not a wordsmith i don't know how do you spell perigee i get t-e-r-i-g-e-e
uh i think apogee is furthest but apogee yeah i believe so perigee point i think actually no
apogee may be closest nearest perigee is nearest apogee is the furthest away okay so when it's at apogee is when the moon is small so it doesn't
totally block out the sun and nobody cared because that happened in october literally just a few
months ago nobody cared and it went over the over texas to the west coast yeah and so uh the next
eclipse i think is going to go coast to coast in the United States.
The next U.S. eclipse is going to be in, was it 2045?
I think it was 20 years.
Yeah, 2045.
And it'll go coast to coast.
But eclipses happen every 18 months and you can travel the world chasing them.
Yeah.
And there are people that do that.
Yeah.
But to your point earlier, I mean, I was watching some news coverage of people in Arkansas.
It really was lovely to see all these people had like their families out and the kids were there.
And, you know, different people had different reasons for going and experiencing it.
But it was something they were all doing together. And then they're all outside looking at it.
It's pretty neat.
I think it's cool.
Yeah, it's not the worst thing to like bring people together.
Yeah, I think so.
All right.
Taiwan Cricket says the planet is warming because gravity drives seismicity.
Oh, I've not heard that one. Love that word.
Which creates friction.
At the pressure where things move, rocks don't melt.
They plasmify.
Read the work of former U.S. Army Ranger Walt Brown.
The planet is broken.
Give me that again.
He put plasmify in quotes.
Did he just wordsmith?
I think it is a word.
Seismicity.
What's that expanding Earth theory?
It's real.
I don't know whose theory it originally was, but that the Earth was originally just a rock.
It was a hardened rock of solid iron after that big cataclysmic, you know,
four billion years ago, I think, the solar system formed.
And then it cooled down and then it's been twisted, just like the sun is expanding.
All these celestial bodies are slowly twisting open.
And as it rips open, it looks like hydrogen is shooting out of the core and interacting with the oxygen
and making water it looks like that's where the water is coming from i can't tell exactly but it
seems like that's how the oceans are being formed makes it's it's ray wickle there's videos of it
on youtube uh expanding earth and you can watch the simulation in it you see how like africa fits
right into south america like it all i think it all used to be just a ball of rock well it used
to all be Pangea,
they believe.
That's what they told me
when I was growing up
is that there's a floating continent
called Pangea
and then everything else was water.
But this expanding Earth
makes a lot more sense
that it's tearing open.
I would agree with that.
Do or don't?
I do.
Yeah.
That proves it.
The simulation's wild to watch.
It stuff fits together so well.
Yeah.
It's pretty wild.
Cal Miller says,
Trump needs to treat every state like they are swing states.
If the plan to flip Texas and Missouri blue is true,
then he needs to up his legal and campaign game.
The reason why I think the Texas-Missouri thing is plausible
is that Mike Cernovich said,
it's not the reason that Mike Cernovich said this,
but he makes a good point that the tactics used in 2020
will not work again for Trump. He's too far ahead. I agree. They can't replay the same strategy from
2020 with their shadow campaign, Time Magazine calls it. They would need a different one,
and they would need to catch the right off guard. Texas flips blue ever so slightly. It's a winner
take all state. They recently had a court uphold winner-take-all in the state. So you end up getting
an extremely close race in Texas.
It goes blue,
40 electoral votes go Biden.
And then all they need is Arizona.
So Trump can have all the swing states
where he's up.
Man, maybe you should have to be here
for four years before you can vote.
Maybe you can only vote
if you are signed up
for the Selective Service.
Yeah, or like,
like when you move to a new state,
give it a couple of years
before you can vote. Just see what things are like there. Why do move to a new state, give it a couple years before you can vote.
Just see what things are like there.
Why do they let you,
hello, I'm going to vote
for your new leader
I don't even know anything about.
And then leave.
And then leave right away.
Remember when,
what's his face?
Andrew Yang said,
I'm going to go down to Georgia
and help him win.
That's just so scummy.
Marianne Williamson
like moved to Ohio all of a sudden.
She's like,
this is where I'm from now.
This is my campaign
morgan theil says for intellectual consistency i'm anti-abortion but not pro-life
because i believe in capital punishment yeah the the the editorial guideline we have for scnr is
that on issues of activism towards abortion or no abortion it's not pro-life or pro-choice because those are political names and brands.
It is for or against abortion.
Because, like, otherwise, you're arguing people's political terms they want to use to describe themselves.
Either you oppose or support abortion.
Yeah, saying I support the woman's right to choose to get an abortion is a really, like, circuitous way to say I support abortion.
Right.
I support the right of abortion, your right of abortion or whatever that or you are you are you are in
support of abortion yeah i don't like it but i want to compel women to get abortions you don't
want them to have a choice about it right like saying you would be pro-abortion but not pro-choice
right that was a hypothetical i guess that's why they don't there's a lot of people who have that
position but there's an old joke from the 90s that I can't say on YouTube
that I'll save for the after show about that.
There's a lot of jokes from the 90s that were mainstream and fun
that you can't say on YouTube right now.
It was a good time to grow up, though.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Howard Stern had a good go of it,
and now he's on the other side of it.
Seriously.
How about that?
All right, Neglectful Sausage says,
Ian is three-fifths of a brain.
Therefore, we can we can
post what is this post-birth abortion well you made your point oh shucks he snuck under legally
a person clause oh well okay what do we got what do we got joe spinel says person means any
individual including any officer employee of the federal government or any group entity
association corporation or foreign power 50 USC 1801.
Any individual.
Okay.
Is a baby an individual?
Is an unborn baby an individual?
Cause they're connected twins.
Well,
the point is the Supreme court needs to answer whether or not person fall up
unborn child falls under person in the
Constitution.
That's it.
To that point, you could say, well, the baby can't survive
on its own. Well, if I give birth to the baby and I
just leave the baby on the ground, the baby can't survive
on its own then. So is the baby less worthy
of life at that point?
Vosh said babies aren't alive until three months after they're born.
What? He did on this
show. What does he think they're doing during the time?
How does he classify them?
Just downloading information.
Maybe it wasn't three months.
He said sometime after birth.
Sometime, not specific.
I think that's right.
But the argument has been made that because babies can't form memories for the first three
months, they're not alive.
Someone just told me that babies don't feel pain for the first year.
I'm like, what the hell?
That's baloney.
Is that like an actual like-
That's not true at all.
No one says that. I don't know what the hell? That's baloney. Is that like an actual like- That's not true at all. No one says that.
I don't know who that person was.
Ian, do you remember when you were seven
and you skidded your knee while riding your bike and fell?
Sometimes.
I remember a few of those, but-
But not specifically?
No.
I can't remember the chain pain of childbirth.
I mean, like honestly.
That means you couldn't feel pain at all.
Right.
That means that you don't feel pain in childbirth ever.
I do remember i think um
a hernia operation i had when i was like six months old i remember a vision being it was really
cold i was on like a metal cold metal table and the really green light and dudes above me with
masks looking down at me and the pain the intense pain in my like lower abdomen i remember that
memory my whole life no that was the aliens could have been aliens yeah i still don't know we were talking about aliens on our way here oh yeah my great fear of aliens yeah oh all right
here we gotta here we go best boomer vid says debate dr shiva is that asking you to debate
dr shiva or me have you debated you know dr shiva no why would i debate dr shiva the guy who invented email we're strictly anti-email company best boomer vids then says debate dr shiva for president 2024
me is there some sort of joke in chat that i don't know maybe this is a general call the guy
who says he invaded internet right was that him i don't know looking Looking it up. All right. All right. What do we have? Let's go. What's going on?
Oh, let's see.
Hake of Vaniuson says, hey, guys, want to see if you heard of Geo Bowden?
It's a politifying meme that makes fun of Biden.
I have no.
Oh, and there's a cryptocurrency behind it or something.
Yeah, no, I'm not interested in a Bowden, but it is a funny name.
What do we have? What do we have have someone else asked about the boden meme biden is only called called biden he's called boden
look at x crypto asset worth over 500 million dollar market cap sounds like someone's trying
to pump and dump a coin or something yeah like not interested in that super chatting some there
was one super chat i should see it on the screen that went hakuna cicada this is like
so funny hakuna cicada yeah you're right amir habibi says tim update your web browser please
thanks it's always plainly visible when we're looking at videos it says update your browser
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do you want to shout
anything out?
Yeah,
go to MomsWithLiberty.org
and check us out.
Join,
start a chapter.
It's a really great
group of people
and I think your point,
the networking point,
Tim,
is so incredibly important.
That's what we've done,
you know,
people holding the torch
of liberty
and saying,
help us. Right on. Where can people find you we've done, you know, people holding the torch of liberty and saying, help us.
Right on.
Where can people find you?
Oh, yeah, you can follow me on Twitter,
or X or whatever we call it these days,
at the number four, and then Tiffany Justice.
Awesome.
It's been fun having you here.
It was great.
Thank you for having me.
It was a pleasure.
Of course.
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Shout out to Brett, who does all the work for that,
because I'm no help at all.
Anyways, bye, Ian. Bye, HannahClaire. Hey, you're
going to be in Austin, I think. At least your face is on the poster. Are you going to be there April 27th? I'm going to be there. I'm no help at all. Anyways, bye, Ian. Bye, Hannah Clara. Hey, you're going to be in Austin. I think at least your face is on the poster.
Are you going to be there April 27th?
I'm going to be there.
I'm moderating a panel.
Oh, great.
You are.
So you're also on here.
So I'm going to be there.
It's going to be awesome.
I go if you're,
it seems like they want you there.
You're really big.
Your face is really big on the poster.
I have to talk to them about it.
Okay, so you may or may not be there,
but you're on the poster.
It's supposed to be a really cool event.
Yeah, it's going to be awesome.
I'm going to be playing music with Toby Turner at the beginning to lead it off.
He's a hilarious freaking guy.
I love the guy.
It's going to be awesome.
And then we're doing panels.
It's going to be comedy.
I believe there's a bit of comedy in everything.
And you can go to festival.minds.com and get the tickets.
And you can use promo code Ian to get 20% off.
So do that.
And I want to find out how many people buy that.
So it's going to be super exciting to see how effective this pitch was. Thanks, Tim. And speaking of networking, man,
your family is your first and primal network. Take care of it. Be really good to people around you.
Thanks for coming, Tiffany. Appreciate it. Later chat. See you guys on the after show
if you're coming. We'll see you all over at timcast.com in about a minute. Thanks for hanging
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