Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL # - Judge Says Maxine Waters May Have OVERTURNED The Chauvin Trial w/DC Riot Bros

Episode Date: April 20, 2021

Tim, Ian and Lydia join the "Riot Bros," Jorge Ventura and Richie McGinniss to discuss the Maxine Waters comment that may have overturned the Chauvin trial, the "marchers" who set fire to an Apple store in Portland, the BLM protesters who rallied for a victim of a police shooting - until they realized his race, and the declaration of Minnesota governor Tim Walz, who called in police from other states to defend Minneapolis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I, along with many others, have been warning that the ongoing riots were likely going to corrupt the criminal trial of Derek Chauvin. The defense attorney for Chauvin begged the judge to sequester the jury. The judge said no. Now, I am very impressed with this judge to now hear him say that Maxine Waters' threats against the jury may be caused to overturn the entire election. Look, man, I thought Judge Cahill was a fairly reasonable guy. I thought he was being fair, not just giving the defense what they wanted, but going back and forth, and I thought it made sense. But this has to be one of the stupidest things and one of the biggest blunders in judicial history, because we know the severity of the riots. We know it affected the entire country.

And the defense kept saying, you need to sequester the jury. And the judge is like, no, no, it's fine. It's fine. And then Maxine Waters comes out and she goes, if we don't get a first degree murder conviction, which, as you know, Chauvin wasn't charged with, then we got to get more, more active and get in the streets and get more confrontational, more confrontational than burning down an Apple store, a police station. And, you know, what we saw last year. And the judge now has the nerve to be like, you know what? Maybe on appeal, the entire trial will be overturned now. It's almost like it was on purpose. So we're going to talk about this. We've got a bunch of stories surrounding what's going on with Maxine Waters statements, how it's affecting politics, but we've got a bunch of nonpolitical stuff. We got, I want to talk about the Falcon and the Winter Soldier because I've been watching that show,

and everyone thinks it's getting woke, and I think it's getting anti-woke, but we'll see what happens. So hanging out today, I guess just two members of the DC Riot Squad. You fight over it. Who goes first? Mr. Richie McGinnis. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. You've got to talk into the microphone, Richie. Richie McGinnis. Yep. DC Riot Squad slash Daily Caller Video Squad at Richie McGinnis and at Daily Caller with my boy Jorge over here.

Yeah. You know, Phil's correspondent, Daily Caller. And yeah, you know, I guess we originated with the DC Riot Squad. So glad to be back and, you know, for an exciting week. Both of you guys were on the ground during the riots. Yep. That's true. Multiple truths.

Both of you guys have been on the ground for basically every single riot of the past year. Well, not literally everyone because there's multiple cities at the same time, but most of the big consequential ones, like notably Kenosha. And so what's important here, and I think it's going to be great

because not only were you guys in Minnesota. You guys were in Minnesota, right? Just now, yeah. Not only is that relevant for all the news, but there was uh some legal analysts speculating that the riots are going to have a ramification on the kyle rittenhouse trial because they're telling the jury do what we want or we burn this place down and so you know that one legal analyst said what do you think is going to happen when it comes to the jury in the

rittenhouse trial they know what they're going to be there for they're going to be like no way dude am i getting involved in this? So we're going to talk all about that. We also got Ian. He's chilling. Ian Crossland. At Ian Crossland. Richard. Jorge. Good to see you, brother. How do you feel about being called Richard? Is that what you're given? That's what my mom calls me when I'm in trouble.

When you're in trouble. How old are you? She still says it. Like when I go to Minneapolis and I'm like, I'm in Minneapolis, Mom. Sorry, Mom. There's a bunch of gunshots going off. Richard! I told her day of when I went to Kenosha, hey, by the way, I'm in Wisconsin.

And she said, all caps, don't be a hero. Did she ask you to get like a big life insurance policy because you're taking – No, for real. Like conflict reporters usually get big life insurance policies because, dude, come on. They're shooting each other out there. Do you ever go straight up rich?

Or dick? I'm hoping to be rich in name. I like where your head's at. Because of Dogecoin? Oh, yeah. We're not going to go there. Don't get him started.

Don't get me started. Tomorrow's the day of Doge. All right, all right. We got Lydia. She's pressing all the buttons. I am in the corner. I am the least interesting person on this podcast tonight. It's going to be a great night.

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Derek Chauvin trial judge blasts abhorrent Democrat for calling for riots, if no conviction. They say Derek Chauvin's defense attorney, Eric Nelson, called for a mistrial after the jury retired on Monday. He cited Rep Maxine Waters comments on the case as he argued there was no way the jury could be unbiased given constant media coverage. He's right. Now that we have U.S. representatives threatening acts of violence and retaliation to this trial, it's frankly mind blowing, Nelson said. Judge Peter Cahill replied, I grant you Congresswoman Waters may have handed you grounds for appeal and the turning over of this trial. But Cahill refused to grant a mistrial and adjourned the court until the jury comes back with a verdict. It wasn't just that. The defense argued

prosecutorial misconduct because in rebuttal, the prosecution said that I guess they were like making up there. They were telling stories and it was nonsense and repeatedly kept saying that it was essentially fabrication of facts, which you're not allowed to do in court. The prosecution supposed to say that, you know, our expert testified to this and we hold this to be correct. You can't say the other person's making making up crap in their lying and telling stories. And so when the defense said, you know, objection, the judge said overruled, correct. You can't say the other person's making up crap and they're lying and telling stories. And so when the defense said, you know, objection, the judge said, overruled, don't say stories again. But, you know, he's allowed to say stories. Now, when the prosecution kept berating the defense and insulting them, the judge finally stepped down and was like, OK, you got to stop

doing that. This is what bugs me. We just saw how long were the riots going on so far in Minneapolis? You know, they've been since the recent ones since last Sunday, the death of Daunte Wright. So about eight days a week. Nelson immediately, the defense for Chauvin, asked the judge to sequester the jury. And he said – so they don't watch the news. They don't see what's going on. And the judge said, well, I'll instruct the jury not to watch the news. And the defense argued. Everyone knows about what's going on.

Everyone's talking about it. And he was saying that even TV shows, fictional TV shows on Thursday night, NBC or whatever, are referencing the trial and making statements about what they want to occur. And so he's like, you need to sequester them. The judge initially said no. Then after the riots started with Dante Wright, then he was like, judge, I'd like to ask you again to sequester the jury. And the judge was like, I don't think we need to sequester them the judge initially said no then after the riots started with dante right then he was like judge i'd like to ask you again to sequester the jury the judge is like i don't think we need to do that and now the judge is like well the jury the trial may be completely overturned that's incompetent what does that mean overturned is that a mistrial so it means there'll

be a verdict then the defense is let's say that the jurors come back and say guilty on all counts i mean let's say the jury comes back and says acquitted on all counts, but manslaughter, no matter what happens. Now, the defense can file an appeal to a higher court saying rep Maxine waters. Democrat came from California, came to our state and said, unless we get a conviction for premeditated murder, which they didn't charge Chauvin with, we're going to get more confrontational. They've already been rioting.

What does more confrontational mean? Yamiche, is that her name? Yamiche Elcindor? Yeah, Yamiche Elcindor said the right is claiming that Maxine Waters called for violence because she said, get more active and more confrontational. That's not a call for violence. And I'm like, confrontational? What does that mean?

Like confronting somebody? If you're already burning down their buildings and throwing bricks at cops, what is more confrontational than that? Now the judge is admitting, yep, there it is. The jury, the jury of course knows. They've been threatened and they're going to burn the city down no matter what. Because she said first degree murder and they don't have that. And I thought at minimum they would at least

sequester before the the weekend started they didn't they didn't even do that and that's obviously when when maxine waters came in i mean i think just being on the ground um one of our reporters lisa benetton that she did a great video where she asked folks hey you know what happens if you don't get you know if you guys don't get murdered and people literally say and that are from brooklyn so they said we're burning it down we're burning down. And they don't need, I would say, with Maxine Waters' comments, it's like you're just giving these people more power to just say, hey, if we do this, we're good to go. And I think a lot of those folks are going to point to last summer and say,

hey, if we go out and do our thing, it's okay, because Kamala Harris was there to bail us out just like last year. And I think that's something that we have to keep in the back of our mind. I think all the cops should resign i think every single cop in in the minneapolis area should just resign right now just get out of there just leave oh that's tough they voted for it that they did um and i know right now the the big difference right now is compared to last year is um you know being on the ground is i guess minnesota with the law enforcement they didn't have a communication system between you know the minnesota state troopers national guard and then local police so coming this this year around being on the ground

reporting we learned that now minnesota has created a program called operation safety net so now we have the national guard uh local police and state troopers now working all basically now hand in hand to control these groups i will say this i think you know richard you know being on the ground again in brooklyn center they did a great job of protecting the police department you know they put the barricades they had the law enforcement there but one thing that we we have to remember and i try to tell these folks all the time is when you have so much law enforcement you know concentrate on just one area it leaves the rest of the city stretched thin i mean just and and i said this last uh this was reported yesterday but numbers might even be higher but

since last sunday of dante wright's death, the police department in Brooklyn Center, which is a little small town area, they have already received over 200 calls of either businesses damaged, looted, or burglaries. And that's one thing that we have to remember is when you have so much protection at the police center, the rest of the city is stressed out. That whole shopping mall is literally right next to the police station. Like that whole shopping mall that was looted on the first couple of nights, it's like 100 yards from the whole police station. This is why I'm saying the cops should resign or at the very least. We had – I think it was Tom Rogan he mentioned. They should give notice that in 30 days they'll all resign.

That would be interesting. I've been speaking to some inside sources inside the Portland PD from last summer. And when I was speaking to a police officer, she said the morale is low. She says we have people transferring, you know, just literally retiring early. And, I mean, I would expect that we see the same thing here. And I know that we were speaking about this before the show, Tim, but the Minnesota Senate just approved $9 million to get out of state law enforcement to help out, you know, with this upcoming week.

So, you know, pray for these guys because, yeah because they take a lot of beating when they're out there. I've heard from a lot of people in the comments. They're like, Tim, these cops who are staying are doing it because they know there are good people who need to be protected. The way I described it was your house is on fire. We repeatedly tried fighting the fire last year, but a bunch of people in the House voted for the arsonists.

Kamala Harris was bailing these people out, soliciting funds. Joe Biden, whose staff is funding the bailouts. And I'm like, so at that point, it made sense to be like, stay in fight, figuratively have, you know, show people what this means and then vote for somebody who will defend you. And they went Democrat. They voted for the people who are defending the rioters, not the cops. So now you've got a problem. Now your house is burning down

and the people you think you're helping are screaming at you to get out while the house burns down around them. So I understand the analogy where it's like we've got to help the people here who are good and I'm like, I get that,

but at a certain point, don't you say, like the people, imagine a firefighter goes to a burning house and he's like, I'm going to get you out of here, ma'am. And then she like just grabs on and squeezes a flaming beam as tight as she can. Like, no, I'm staying. The firefighter goes in a burning house and he's like, I'm going to get you out of here, ma'am. And then she like just grabs on and squeezes a flaming beam as tight as she can.

Like, no, I'm staying. The firefighter's got to get out before he gets, you know, engulfed in the flames. Look, the people who are there who are good people, what are they doing to defend these cops? Do we see press conferences held by community leaders and activists and neighborhood watches saying we support our cops and we need them here to protect us? No. But what do we see? We see endless riots in support of shutting down and abolishing the police so so at a certain point the police need to send a message if you're not getting the support nobody wants you there they

voted for the people who hate you then you need to say okay then i'll pass it off to you and then see what happens you know the metaphor i'm thinking of is that 10 guilty people go free before one innocent person suffers. And I think that these people that aren't speaking up are the innocent bystanders that I don't want them to suffer. That's a different analogy. It doesn't work. I'm not sure if you guys have seen the news too. One of the city council members from Brooklyn Center

came out and said, Hey, I get the emotions at heart, but we should wait for due process. Got fired. So that was the city manager. And then a councilwoman for Brooklyn Center admitted she voted to have him fired because she was scared

they would come after her. All right. Personal responsibility takes precedent at a certain point. If you would fire a city manager who called for due process because, you know, this cop shot this guy

and then publicly say, I'm scared they'll attack me. OK, you need to either stand up for what you believe in or don't come to me for help when you vote to support these lunatics. Look, at a certain point, you've got to throw water on the fire too. But what I think it is, Tim, from being on the ground, and I think Richie could attest to this, is we spoke to a lot of residents who don't support, obviously, the constant clashes in their neighborhood, the destruction. The only thing is they're actually afraid just to even go on camera or do an interview because they feel like, hey, if I go on camera with you,

they'll literally destroy my stuff tomorrow. So I think there is a lot of community people that do want to stand up. They want to speak out. I think they're just super afraid of the retaliation because if they feel like the media, the culture, everyone is against them. Since Trump left, I mean, very much like during the last year, a lot of the riots have been like us versus the federal government. A lot. Donald Trump. No Trump. No KKK. No racist USA. But now that Biden's president, it's the system itself. And so you're right. Like the protesters on the ground. I think the ideology has shifted even even further left because basically now it's like okay now you

really adopt our plan or else you're a fascist as well so biden's a fascist if you know he doesn't adopt abolish the police look look i i get messages from people all the time where they're like i got my family out of minnesota last week or i'm moving next month or i'm trying to move out now i get messages from people who say i moved out six months ago i i got i've got messages messages from people where, man, Tim, I'm glad you said to get out of the city because I got out before the latest riot started and I lived real close. So listen, I hear what you're saying about people scared to go on camera. The founding fathers, many of them who signed the Declaration of Independence, were killed, had their homes burned down, their families were killed. They risked everything to stand up for what they believed in. At a certain point, you don't get to be a pampered golden age American who can sit in your home and just kick your feet back and say,

I'll keep my head down and be fine. Because it is expanding. It is getting worse. There are a lot of pundits saying they think the riots after the Chauvin trial are going to be worse than we saw last year. It's one thing to see the anger over the death of George Floyd. It's another thing to see the state say he didn't do anything wrong, depending on what the result may be.

So Maxine Waters wants a charge that didn't actually happen. First degree murder, premeditation. So based on her own logic, riots are coming. If at this point the people are unwilling to stand up and defend themselves. OK, well, do you expect that like the people who are who are speaking up, not even from your area, who are speaking out and risking their careers, who are getting canceled, losing their jobs for defending, you know, the what's what's true and what's correct. You expect them to come to your aid when you won't do it yourself. There's that famous line about a leader who says, I would never instruct one of my men to do something I wouldn't do myself or one of my, you know, men or women. Yet here you have people who won't stand up for themselves asking you to do it for them. And so there are cops who are like, I will. I'm like, nah, at a certain point,

if you're a cop and they're all turning their back on you, refusing to stand up and even say the words, I support you, then you don't have support from them. No matter what they think, no matter what they're telling people, they're lying. Somebody who truly supported you would stand up, hold a press conference. We support the police and we reject this. They won't do it. Why? Because they're scared of the extremists and they aren't willing to fight back in a figurative sense in any capacity.

So at a certain point, the cops got to be like, then you're on your own. Because what happens? Kim Potter, a 26 year veteran. There's a guy wanted for aggravated robbery. Dante, right? He's resisting arrest. He's wanted on a gun charge. So they know he's likely armed. I believe he had a 45 Ruger jumps into his car and she doesn't know what's going on. And she draws her weapon. Presumably the story is she thought it was her taser. She shoots him. This is a tragedy. But when you have a guy wanted for an aggravated robbery, it's like robbing someone with a deadly weapon. And then he jumps in his car. You're like, okay, he's, he's resisted and he may, he's act, it's active aggression. Should she then defend

herself or defend others? Well, she said she made a mistake for that. The prosecutor comes out. He came out during the riots, I guess, and said, we are going to do everything in our power to see her held accountable through this system. Okay. She deserves it. She absolutely deserves whatever the system throws at her because all of these cops have been watching what the feckless, pathetic, spineless people of their community have been doing, selling them out, sacrificing them to the mob. And they thought they'd be safe. They thought the mob would ignore them. They thought they could stand there as a part of the mob, and they thought they'd be safe. They thought the mob would ignore them. They thought they could stand there as a part of the system propping up injustice, and they would be safe.

Nah, not anymore. You helped prop up a bunch of arsonists burning down your community, and now you're mad that you're caught in the fire? I can't run into a burning building you chose to be in. I don't like this metaphor because the people of the United States are sucking off the teat of the Federal Reserve, bankrupting the world, and we don't deserve to die and be burning hell for it. No, you're punishing

people for something they're not necessarily responsible for or were ignorant of. The Federal Reserve has nothing to do with this. The people of the United States are spearheading the global catastrophe financially. Okay, Ian, you gotta get back on subject. You're talking about the people of the city being responsible because they're not saying anything. No, because they voted for Kamala Harris.

Some of them, but not all of them. The majority of the state voted for the people who support the riots, and they stay there, and they won't speak out. There's a huge number of people that didn't. And they don't deserve to be punished. Are they bailing water? No, no, no. Are they bailing water? I think the reason they're not is because they're not organized, and if one of them sticks their head up, it is going to get cut off.

They won't even say the words? I don't know, man. They won't speak up to save their own lives? Then you get no sympathy from me. You have the option to simply stand up and say, Hello, good journalist Jorge. I wish the police had more support. They won't even do that.

They're scared. Well, I'm sorry, man. Life is not always candy canes and rainbows. And when violent terrorists come to burn down your neighborhood, you at least have to say, please stop. At the bare minimum, say, officer, please help us. They won't even do that. So if you've got terrorists burning down your city

and you don't have the ability to at least say help, sorry. Yeah, but like Jorge was saying, if they get on camera and they say help, their business is going to get destroyed the next day. What is required for evil to succeed is that good people do nothing. Or good people put themselves out there vulnerably. That also helps evil succeed. How does that make sense?

Because they get killed easy. People need to stand up and at least do something instead of nothing. They've got to organize. They might risk themselves. Well, it starts by speaking. Not randomly and incoherently. Who said anything about random and incoherent? Not like one random person to get up and be like, I'm going to be the guy that makes a stand and gets my birth.

If they formed underground like the founding fathers did. Dude, dude, dude. You brought up the founding fathers as a metaphor. Your argument is absurd. No, they organized. These are the taxpayers who fund the police. The founding fathers didn't get up and say, King George, I hereby declare you're an idiot because they would have been executed on the spot.

No, they had to organize underground for maybe a certain period. But they literally had constitutional conventions in their states and sent delegates. Yeah. And they voted on these things. Right. But it was all underground. People are paying for the police. They're paying for the government.

They're paying the politicians and voting for them. And I'll tell you this, the people who voted for it, why would I argue they don't want it? If somebody was in Minneapolis and said, I want Joe Biden, whose staff members support the riots, and I want Kamala Harris, who supports the rioters, and then the rioters come to burn down their house, I can only assume they're going, yes, I voted for this. I'm happy it's happening. Why would you assume they made that mistake i don't know what's in their what's in their mind it's like that guy in los angeles when the riots were in downtown la or whatever and he was cheering this is awesome yeah burn it down and then when they came with him when they're in a block of his house he goes no stop don't come to my house

do you think it's that or do you think people were misled by the portrayal of what was been going what what has been going on for the past year perhaps the media if they knew you know the full extent of what has been happening personal responsibility too many americans for too long have been fat and lazy figuratively and literally sitting around not paying attention thinking everything would be done for them and i'll put it this way firefighters risking their lives because the da's won't prosecute these people you want to get mad at cops okay Why should a firefighter risk his life running into literal burning buildings that are collapsing? Because when the police make arrests, the DA cuts them loose. You want to support your community?

You need to speak up and do it. But if people are sitting back saying someone will do it for me, eventually your house falls down because you're not maintaining it. I cannot. You guys cannot. And the police cannot be the people who are begging, just carry your own weight, dude, for once. They won't do it. I cannot. You guys cannot. And the police cannot be the people who are begging, just carry your own weight, dude, for once. They won't do it. They won't. So they vote for it. And it's, I'll tell you this, ignorance is no excuse for supporting tyranny. I understand the media

manipulates. I hate them for it. I understand that these extremists are terrorizing and threatening them. But if you don't stand up and just at least try, and no one does, then tyranny wins. This is why I brought up the Federal Reserve and the U.S. people. Ignorance is no excuse for supporting tyranny. We live in the empire. So being ignorant of that is not an excuse to support that. That's correct.

That's my point. But I don't want to punish and destroy everyone. You mean you wouldn't join Antifa is what you're saying? Well, I have this stupid sympathy for those ignorant people. I don't want to see them suffer. No one does. Well, you're making the argument that you want the police to leave so that... I'm sorry, Richie, what?

What breeds that ignorance? Why aren't people aware of that? We live in a free society with the internet. Wealth. We, for, we for too long have been people in good times breeding weak individuals, weak citizens who don't care about civic duty or responsibility. And I'm not talking about some nationalistic, whatever I'm talking about, literally being like going and giving your firefighters some

brownies and being like, thank you for everything you do or going to your cops and talking to them about issues you're concerned about. you've heard about in the media. They don't even do that. They don't even do that. It's just media manipulation, political sectarianism, and a bunch of lazy, disinterested people who are like, I'm keeping my head down because I got it good. Okay, listen.

There was a period in our country, in our nation's history, where death was like, you died. You know what I mean? Looking at these stories from back in like the old pioneer days in the Wild West, people understood risk and responsibility. And they had to wake up at 6 in the morning and farm and go to bed at 11 at night, and it was work, work, work all day, every day. Now we have all of the comforts of the first world.

We have fast food, McDonald's. We have too much food. Americans are gaining weight like crazy and they're doing less work. And they're now you have a whole section of a sect of people who are leftist to think they shouldn't have to do work at all. We are just becoming as a, as a country, we, we reject responsibility for our own lives and our own selves. And we say the police will do it. And then when the police can't do it and they're overrun, well, I'm not going to speak up. Someone else has to do it. Okay. Well then listen, man, if a fire is raging towards your home and you're like,

I'm not going to put out a firefight, I'll get here. Okay. Well, eventually your house burns down. That's not me saying I want your house burn. I don't want your house to burn down, but it's also me saying, I don't want my firefighters to die because you refuse to start turning your hose on the very least you could have done that. Right. And, and, and, and wet your house down. Now your house is a raging five alarm fire and the firefighters are the ones going to die because of you. That's why I'm saying the police need to back out before things, but before, look, I'll tell you what's going to happen. The cops stick around. We get a Kim Potter situation. If the cops right off the bat said, we won't stand for this. Well,

then Kim Potter wouldn't have been there to create another circumstance that they use to light the country on fire. I'm not saying I know what the solution is, but I can tell you this. It's a Chinese finger trap, and the cops keep pulling, and you're not going to get out of it if you keep doing this. The people around you won't support you, so something needs to change. It needs to change now so people realize what's happening. Even when the cops are there, I mean, Kenosha, there were no firefighters and no cops, like, in the situation where they were actually needed, like a shooting or a fire. You know, we saw they were basically focused, like Jorge was saying earlier, entirely on the riots.

And so over the last year, if you look at all the criminal data across the country, I mean, that's effectively what's been happening is the police are paying attention to the civil unrest and not paying attention to the violent crimes that actually really impact the communities. Yeah. Well, one thing, too, that is interesting that I think we'll start to figure out in these couple months is how each city, major city, deals with the potential civil unrest and the communication they've used. In Los Angeles, the Los Angeles County Sheriff, Alex Villanova, he came out aggressive and

said, hey, we got National Guard on standby. We got all this stuff. We are not playing around compared to last year. And according to some sources on the ground, I mean, LAPD so far, as I know, this past week has been handling the demonstrations pretty well. And I think Los Angeles, I mean, I don't know about every city, but I know Los Angeles, they for sure are going to fix the mistakes they made last year because their county sheriff is a little bit aggressive. But I do definitely see what Tim is saying. They need, the

police officers or law enforcement. They need some type of support. It needs to come from somewhere. In Portland, I speak to a lot of officers. They feel like their work is useless because they'll make the arrest. They'll do all this stuff. But then the district attorney will say, off the hook, off the hook, off the hook. And that's going to bring morale down.

And I think in Los Angeles what we're seeing is we're seeing an L.A. County sheriff say, hey, we're taking the aggressive lane. We're ready to go. We have National Guard on standby. And I know the DA down there, George Cascone, is not a guy they like. He's super progressive. But even the L.A. County sheriff is saying, we don't even care what the DA is doing. We're going bullhead all forces in. And so far L.A. hasn't seen that violence that we've seen in other cities. What's the Internet's definition of insanity?

Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different outcome? That's Einstein, yeah. Was it Einstein? I think it was a meme. So you've got these cops in Portland who are like, I'm going to arrest this guy for breaking the law. And then they bring him to the station and the DA goes, you're free to go. And they go, hey, I know. I'll arrest him tomorrow for breaking the law.

And the DA goes, you're free to go. The woman who was accused of setting fire to the police union building, she was arrested last year on some serious charges, and they just cut her loose and dropped the charges. Then she comes back not even a year later and burns down the police union building, and then they release her without bail. At a certain point, man, I don't know what these cops think they're doing. It's like there's this meme video where a guy is like,

What else can they do, though? Leave! Leave! I mean, but they got bills to pay. That's not realistic for somebody who literally – If your house is burning down, will you be like, I can't leave. I'm homeless. I'll be homeless. It's like my house is burning down but my family is going to starve if we don't stay.

So you stay in a house that's literally on fire. You're going to die. I'm still getting a paycheck as long as you're alive, as long as you're breathing. What you just said is very interesting. What you've said is it's actually safer and easier for the police to be in the violent riots in a system that's broken

and not working than it is to actually leave and go somewhere that would be more... Because what is a cop's future employment in this current climate right now? Oh, hey, I just left the Portland PD. You want to hire me

to be an NBC correspondent? No, no, no. Think about that. Think about that. That means while Minneapolis burns down, it is actually safer and more secure for an officer to be an ineffective and villainized individual working for the department than it is for them to move their family to any other city for any other job. I put it this way right now. If if a small portion

of my garage caught on fire, I wouldn't expect everyone to run screaming from the building. I'd expect someone to go with a fire extinguisher just put a little fire out if the fire eventually engulfed half the building then this the safety is okay at this point you stay in the building you're probably going to die you need to get out yeah the fire right now isn't big enough to where the cops feel threatened and i think well i think basically the fire here you know the responsibility of the fourth estate is literally to call out when there's a fire when nobody else is willing to. Like the government obviously isn't. Fourth estate, you say?

Yeah. You guys beat me. Well, I mean, basically. Not the mainstream media. Well, I think we have the internet now. And I do think when we started out covering the riots at the beginning of the year, we were saying the term protesters, not calling them rioters necessarily. Let me pause real quick because I'll pull this story up as a good launching point. Yeah, for sure.

We got this story from Willamette Week. Marchers set fire to Apple Store and shatter windows across downtown Portland after police killing. The scale of damage tonight recalled the riots last May. Here's what I love about this article. They say it's a riot last May may but right now they are marchers yeah the media is absolutely shielding these people but uh you know that's for sure well i i think i was trying to make the point kind of from the other side which is it's it's just as bad to then come out there and and label every single person who's out there in a situation where you know police start banging up against the front

line of protesters they declare unlawful assembly some of those people were out there with good intentions so if you say blm terrorists in every single tweet then basically you're throwing yourself into that trench the other trench and so you need people in the middle who are just trying their their best to look at both and say like okay so we use the term protester because it's like same as the Capitol riot. There were certain people there who were caught up in the madness, the Lord of the Flies effects of the chaos. You start getting pepper sprayed.

It's pretty hard to make logical decisions. They didn't like, so using that neutral terminology wasn't good in the short term. I was like, Jorge, you're not gonna get as many retweets. But in the longterm, people started to pay attention because they're like, oh, these guys are actually here and they're actually trying their best to actually just show fly on the wall what's going on how many people are actively have you heard actively call for the cops to resign or

leave i mean that's that's a good point though probably only me right yeah because my position is i understand that everyone out there is a violent terrorist but there are many violent terrorists i understand a lot of people go out there and they're peaceful protesters. The problem with the leftist activists is that they espouse support for what's called diversity of tactics. Have you heard this phrase from Antifa? Yeah. Diversity of tactics basically means that if you're a peaceful protester, you are supposed to defend or at the very least tolerate violent extremists who are burning things down and attacking police. Respect the diversity of tactics. It's an excuse.

They have systems where they need bodies. You're right. They exploit that. That's for sure. So there are regular peaceful protesters who go out there knowing this and they say if you have 1300 good cops and 12 of them are bad then and and the 1300 good cops won't call out the 12 bad cops then you have 1312 you know bad cops i think it's right 1312 they can and so the point the left is making is the same the cops who refuse to speak out and stop the bad cops are just as bad so i look at at that and I'm like, there's no legit solution between two warring ideologies convincing this guy is evil.

But there is one simple solution. If the people of these neighborhoods won't defend the police, that means the police don't have their support. And if the people and the other people in these communities, be it maybe a smaller percentage, are actively voting against the police. Yeah. And the police have in these communities, maybe a smaller percentage, are actively voting against the police. And the police have a very simple answer. Instead of arguing about who's evil and who's not, you leave. You don't got to worry about support. You don't got to worry about the violence.

And you don't got to worry about they asked for it. They get it. And everyone's better off. So my only point is you're a commentator, right? So your call for the police to do this or that, that's legitimate. Our role here is to be on the ground and to say what we're seeing. And so when you have the entire media whose responsibility is to be on the ground and say what they're seeing, and they're either trying to portray this in this light or this in that light. I got my ass beat by cops in Wauwatosa with a billy club, and I showed the frickin' bruise on my knee.

And everyone's like, oh, the bootlicker finally it's like no no how many times have i shown you know the the blm snack van getting the window smashed in dc by this white shirt cop who just decided to smash your freaking window we're not like choosing oh no the cops are good so we're not going to post that one it's like right that but that's the way that this should have been covered from the start and the reason why we're in this situation now is because nobody was paying attention to us because it was two different echo chambers. And after time, maybe some people are, but still, it's very much two different trenches right now. I should qualify my previous statement. When I said calling for police to resign, obviously the left is doing nothing but that.

My reasoning is very, very different because they're being sacrificed and disrespected, and the people in the community won't do anything to stand up for themselves. So, clarification. Yeah, understood. But yeah, so you get... That's why I pulled up the Willamette Week thing. Marchers set fire to an Apple store. They torched that place. It was gutted.

And they're not marchers. They're... You know what? I think calling the people who did that rioters is being generous. Yeah. Because their political motivation... You think anarchists, then? No then no a terrorist austere marchers well um austere local activists well

while me and rich were on the ground in in brooklyn center um i caught i got i caught a few interesting kind of moments on video where you will find black locals from brooklyn center yelling at white you could call them protesters or agitators, and tell them, we don't want violence in our neighborhoods. We don't condone this. And them telling them, hey, when that 10 p.m. curfew hits, we all want to go home. Because I think one thing that maybe a lot of folks don't know unless you're on the ground, and I try to put it out as much out there as I can,

is what makes this situation for Brooklyn Center Police Department difficult to control this crowd is because right across the street, you have all these apartment complexes. So you have kids in these buildings. So that's one thing that we try to put out there is that a lot of the black locals in Brooklyn Center literally came out and were telling the white protesters, hey, don't be burning down our city. Don't be doing this to our neighborhoods. We literally have kids here. We have to be here until tomorrow. So I think that was an interesting thing that I i was kind of able to capture we wanted to wanted to put it out there what were the guys named they have they all had the best they were

minnesota freedom fighters and it was pretty funny to see the minnesota freedom freedom fighters predominantly black all go up to the antifa umbrella gang which i've been referring to as the umbrella gang because you know they're basically like rolling around with their umbrellas completely in formation the whole time. They're bringing wooden barriers up to the fence and stuff, and the guys are like, what are you doing? We're out here to protest. It's not to smash with police. We're trying to get our voice out here.

What is your goal? One thing too, Tim, is then the white protesters, the Antifa, would then basically claim that the black Minnesota freedom fighters are working with the police and they're getting paid under the table. So it was interesting to just hear that go down in person. It's because you look at the data, peaceful protests work. It generates press coverage, which generates sympathy and then makes political change. It works. And violent riots do the opposite, like we saw with the civics poll. After George

Floyd's death, net support for Black Lives Matter reached like 27%. And then after the riots, it dropped lower than it had been the year before. People don't like riots. I wish people would realize that the best place to peacefully protest is on the internet, on video. In the 60s it was you got a huge crowd

so that hopefully you get some media attention. So people will come with a camera and put you on TV, on ABC News. You don't need that anymore. Now, you make a YouTube video with 70,000 views, you change 20,000 minds, and then political change happens. A good example, though, is Twitter.

Activists took over Twitter and used it to ban people and destroy the careers of those they oppose. It works. Peacefully protested. I mean, you know, just from an outsider perspective, I mean, it could have been even more powerful, like, let's say, when this George Floyd thing happened for them to say, hey, you know what? Let's get a million-man march in Washington, D.C. We're going to go up and we're going to demand these bills and we're going to do it peacefully.

And, you know, I think that would have been more powerful instead of the riots because when the riots happened and, you know, me and Rich have been on the ground, one thing that we try to do at the Daily Caller and I think that much folks did is after the riots, we would at least spend a couple of days actually talking to the business owners. And a lot of them say, hey, we supported this movement from day one, and now we just don't understand why. And you just turn off a lot of America when you go that – I mean, like I said, I think from an outsider perspective, probably would have been more powerful to say, hey, let's get a million people. Let's show up in Washington, D.C. Let's march peacefully and let's demand a set of bills. And I think right now, too, with Black Lives Matter or NT for whoever you want to categorize these groups is they don't have a list of demands that's like a legit – like, hey, we're going off this. Because when you speak to one person and one person says abolish the whole system, then some people say, oh, we want some police.

We want community police. It's a mixed message. I don't believe the businesses to be honest. You guys have been to Berkeley I'd imagine, right? Not yet. So you go to Oakland. You go to Berkeley. You go to the Bay Area.

And all the businesses have these pro-leftist signs in their windows. One of them actually said – I remember it was a Burger King and it said, this is a family-owned franchise. Please do not destroy our windows. See, that, they had to say it outright because it was a Burger King. The local brewery just puts whatever leftist trash in their window hoping that it spares them. So when you get a journalist who comes out,

because I've talked to people on the record, off the record, I'll tell you this, on the record, they're like, we're big supporters of the movement. Just, you know, we're hoping that they don't destroy our business. You turn the camera off and they're like, I can't stand any of this. What are they doing? I hate it. But they want to say it publicly because they're trying to beg. They're begging extremists. And I'll tell you what happens. This is the product of apathy in politics. The district attorneys who get elected are funded by leftist progressives who will not prosecute their own. So the cops arrest them and they get cut loose and then they burn, they set fire to the police union building. Then local businesses are forced to just bend

the knee because they have nothing, no justice system left to defend them. At what point is it a crime for a DA to release a criminal? I don't think. I system left to defend them. At what point is it a crime for a DA to release a criminal? I don't think. I don't think it is. I mean. Like in Los Angeles right now, they just elected George Cascone, and he's been one of the more progressive DAs. And like I was saying, the L.A. County Sheriff and him are just butting heads on everything. I've actually spoken to a few police officers and LAPD on the record and off the record who tell me like, hey, some of the people that we arrest, we charge them for rape within like a couple days out on the street and they'll like commit a murder so

that's it's just um you know i mean at one point too you have to ask is like you know what at one point is it a crime because it's like you're putting your own community in danger and the people that you say that you're protecting which is always black and brown we want to protect the black and brown communities that's where you're actually impacting the most when you do this is the black and brown communities it's like they're actually impacting the most when you do this is the black and brown communities it's like they're not getting they're not these criminals are not getting released in beverly hills i'll tell you that no if they get arrested in beverly hills they'll get shipped somewhere else but you know who you know who seems to have learned to give up because of politics there's

da's they're like whatever man nobody actually cares about the community anymore so i'll tell them what they want to hear and then just do nothing and then all the chaos happens happens. Like the cops haven't learned yet. They're like, I'm going to keep doing the same thing over and over again, even though nothing's getting resolved. But I guess, Hey, when you're getting a paycheck and you got a house, you got a mortgage payment, I suppose from my perspective, you know, I said this two or three years ago, the escalation, I said, I said this, I think two years ago that we were going to see heavily racialized riots or riots for racial reasons, escalate because of a lot of the critical race. And Tim, I wanted to bring this up, too, because I know when we talk about this stuff, it's riots and all that stuff.

But I think one thing, too, we maybe need to look at as a society, and I think maybe the Adam Toledo was a great – not a great example, but something that maybe we could look at as America, what about the family structure? You know, I think one thing that we're not talking about is a lot of these people who are causing the riots or out there, you know, taking advantage of any civil unrest. What type of family were they raised? Did they have both parents at home? And I think that's another discussion that America needs to start having. You know, I know with the Adam Toledo. Yeah, but hold on. To address that point, you realize a lot of these Black Lives Matter people are white

progressives from middle class families or upper middle class families. I think there was a... But just because they're from upper middle class family doesn't mean their dad was in a shit bag. No. I mean... But their dad could be a lazy middle class intellectual. Is that the right...

Yeah. He could be a huge Wall Street guy. He could be a huge Wall Street guy who made them millions of dollars, you know, and he's rich as heck, but his daddy was never there and he's still mad about it. Family structure is a good point, but I want to make sure we're clarifying that

it's not necessarily about whether you got mom or dad. It's about, are your parents lazy and apathetic? You could have two parents and they can just be... Like they won't smack you around when you're addicted to antidepressants.

I mean, like, they send you to school and then when you're begging for help and attention, they put you on drugs. Yeah. I mean, like, they send you to school, and then when you're begging for help and attention, they put you on drugs. Yeah. And then you grow up messed up because you never had any real leadership in your family.

I think we're saying the same thing. Or is he a drunk? But you, like, smack him around. I'm like, no, no. Oh, you know, just come on. I mean, I turned out just fine, right? Come on. I imagine it's easy for a dad to just drink a few beers at night

rather than look his kid in the eyes, unfortunately. Yeah, we need a dad who's got like – he's doing kung fu and his five-year-old son is doing a little kung fu next to him. There's a video I watched. It was amazing. It was this dude and his nephew, I guess, and he's doing some kind of gymnastics training. And the little kid is imitating him. And then dude, who's like probably 30 and super ripped does a backflip, and the little kid does a backflip, and the guy lands and looks at this kid.

He's like, what? Dude, kid just did a backflip. Because kids want to learn from you. So maybe, yeah, family structure is correct. I just wanted to clarify. I think we need to bring that conversation up with American politics because that's not talked about enough. I think having the two-parent system in the home, I think

all these things... Did you assume the gender of those parents? No, it was two parents. No, sorry about that. But I think I was reading some statistics. Yeah, mark that time. Go cancel Jorge when he left. But I think, like I said, it's an interesting thing to look at because I remember when I was covering

the riots in every different city, but specifically in Portland, that's one thing that kind of caught myself is is you know when everyone's causing destruction is to say you know how many of these people who are out here um grew up with with just a regular family and and and have a sense of purpose in life because many of the people that i talked to they almost have like no no sense of purpose and when this george floyd thing caught you popped out, they finally felt they were part of a movement and they were making a change. I think it's their dads.

I think it's mostly the dad. No, I agree. So a lot of people like to mention whether people have dads or don't. I don't think that's it because we brushed on this. I think literally, yeah, if you don't have a dad, the studies show that there's going to be... Actually, I'm sorry. I should clarify. Actually, the studies have been simplified to just two parents a two-parent structure but i

think if people don't have a discipline like a disciplinary parent and i don't mean by like corporal punishment i mean literally like sit down son and you know met or sit down you know daughter and you know think about what you did and you need a a leadership role and a nurturing role in my opinion i think there's probably a lot of these kids I mean you look at these Antifa kids it's like they've never picked up a heavy backpack in their lives they're so scrawny and frail but they're angry, they're really angry and purposeless

so I will say I don't think they actually believe in anything I really don't no some don't, like I said some that I talked to in Portland they finally felt like this was their calling. They were part of a movement. They were going to make a change.

But what's their supposed goal? Police brutality? Let me pull up this next story. We got this one from Fox News. Black Lives Matter protesters rally for a victim, leave after learning he was white. The original story reported was that they left when they learned he was a carjacker. I read that and I was like, well, hold on a minute. The Dante Wright dude, he was wanted for aggravated robbery.

The crime committed is not the reason they're supporting or opposing the individual. So word breaks that some dude was killed by the cops. Everybody takes a knee and they're protesting. And then someone's like, wait, wait, hold on. He was a white dude. And then all of a sudden everyone's like, ah, and they all leave. So I don't think they really care about police brutality. I think they –

That's a good point. Yeah. The issue is, is it a popular narrative? Well, yeah, exactly. I mean I think basically when you say that they don't have an ideology, their ideology is to be oppositional to that which they've been taught to think is wrong, which is like it's a very specific set of... It's tribalism. Exactly. And the reason I say that, sorry to interrupt,

is that if we were going to say it's about Black Lives Matter and the reason they're not concerned about the white guy is because the race issue, then they wouldn't have been making fun of Asian people for years only to now change and act like they care about Asian people. There's no real ideology. It's just whatever the tribe is focused on now, and act like they care about Asian people. There's no real ideology. It's just whatever the tribe is focused on now. And it happens to be Black Lives Matter.

It's grifting season. Well, I mean, by the way, like the reason why I got into media is because like during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, it. Everybody was for the war in Iraq, including CNN, MSNBC, because it was politically incorrect not to be pro military, which that manifested itself and better before the war or else. And so, like, if you look back to the news coverage of that, you would have expected those networks, you know, to be, oh, well, George Bush wants to do this and it's terrible. No, no, not at all. And think about the amount of human suffering that resulted from that. I mean, where are the who's asking the media professionals who said that we should go into Iraq? Do they get away with all of it?

So I think mostly what you see, these people, the reason why they would say walk away from a protest when they find out the guy is white is because it's just whatever the popular media narrative is. They're getting their cues. They're being told to do. Bill Maher had this really amazing segment where he almost got it. It was hilarious, where he was like sensationalist negative news coverage about COVID is making Democrats insane. So there was a poll done. New York Times published this asking Democrats, Republicans and independents the likelihood of hospitalization for COVID, what they thought it was more than 50 percent.

I think 75% of Democrats got it wrong. And Republicans got 26% of Republicans were correct. And most of them got it wrong as well, but substantially less than Democrats and then 20% of independents. And so Bill Maher's like, the media that Democrats consume is constantly negative, and it's making them crazy. But Donald Trump is bad. That was true. That was all true. It's like, okay, dude's probably lying. So here's what happens. You get people who are sitting there bored with no purpose.

And the media is like, what can we say to manipulate people into giving us money and getting us ad clicks? Fear porn. It's that fear porn. Boom. Yep. Exactly. Extrapolate that same thing to the right. Racism.

Which is like people's perception is one thing. You know, just sitting in their homes. And then all of a sudden it's like, wait a second. You're telling me that these aren't, it's not a party like atmosphere. And it's a, and it's a, and sitting in their homes. And then all of a sudden it's like, wait a second, you're telling me that it's not a party-like atmosphere? And then the thing is, what they'll do is like CNN or MSNBC is you'll watch the news segment and you get fed that fear porn and as soon as the commercials hit, hey, here's those paint coats for your back. Here's those paint coats for your back.

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You're watching – that's an amazing point. You're watching CNN. You're watching Fox or whatever, and they're like, there are people's homes being burned down, children fired upon. Now, we'll be back after these messages and then the drug commercials. Yeah, like if you're watching Fox. Might as well be a cigarette commercial. Yeah, you know, you're watching. People are shaking like smoking.

Yeah, you'll be watching Fox's Sean Hannity. Then after that goes commercial and it'll be Larry Elder. He'll be like, hey, does your back hurt like mine? Pop these pills. Then the next commercial will be like, hey, did you take those pills? Well, you might get a compensation. That's the point. They're both selling.

They're both hawking the same products on each side. And all that matters is you just say to that corporate, that party line, as long as corporate America is down with it, you're good to go. I will stop, though, and I think Brett Baier and Tucker Carlson do a good job. I think Tucker leans in. But what happens to those guys? What happens to Tucker Carlson? Well, I went on Tucker to say what I saw on Kenosha, right? Yeah. And all I said was

Rittenhouse told me this. I saw this. And then CNN says, McGinnis supported the conservative claim that Rittenhouse acted in self-defense. And I said,

I emailed him, okay, you either, that's a misstatement. That's, that's a, either have me on to correct the record

or prepare for court. They don't, have me on to correct the record. And for court they had me on to correct the record and they did good journalism after that but that's how it works they had me back on and they did a longer segment with me yeah they did to their credit I wouldn't have gotten on if I hadn't literally threatened that

I'm not a big fan of Fox News as a whole but Brett Baer does a really good job he's a great reporter and Tucker Carlson leans into tribalism every so often but he does i think tend to do a pretty good job however i'm not a big fan of ingram or hannity uh i like a kill me is doing a new thing recently i talked to him i thought he does an okay job i think regardless it's like let those ideas be exposed to the sunlight and let them die there rather than okay who is it who advertise on this program okay you guys all advertise do you support this specific statement that they said this one time otherwise

you're done and that's but listen there's no free speech anymore on cable news there's fox news and then there's literally every other network yep and so fox yes that's in my opinion not great individuals but like i think greg gutfeld and the five yeah do a really good job and i i really i i am a fan of juan williams or at least on on fox news is the anchors could also have different ideologies on cnn mbc exactly hey on cnn mbc is like hey guys this is the track you guys all run it and i think one thing that really opened my not not opened my eyes but i think it was a good moment for the american people to see was when tucker Carlson, he was coming to the end of his segment, and it was when he was bashing Amazon and Jeff Bezos. He's handing it off to

Sean Hannity. Sean Hannity, obviously, is hearing Tucker. Then he goes, oh, well, we support free marketing and capitalism. You just see Tucker do that face. And I thought that was actually a great moment for Fox because it shows, hey, we can at least differ on these things, be on the same network. But it was by mistake.

Hold on, hold on. This is why I said I'm a fan of Juan Williams because they rag on him. I think he's wrong all the time. I'm sitting there watching Jesse laugh at him and I'm like, Juan is wrong. But I'm glad that he's willing to be there with them, taking that punishment

and saying what he believes with passion. Some people think he fakes it. I'm no the dude genuinely believes that's the point though is if you appear on either of these two echo chambers then you are this so right i was trying to tell the american public one thing what i saw and it was an incredible challenge for me to navigate the landscape after the shooting because i had to basically i I appeared on Fox first. Okay, you're this. And it's like, no, no, no. That's a misstatement.

Here are the facts. Prepare for court or have me on. I mean, that's it. You got to threat. You got to threaten. I say a bunch of wacky stuff on this show, but will the grifters on Twitter ever take the clips of me saying tax the rich or police should resign? They won't do that. They'll take the clips that are like Kyle Rittenhouse acting in self defense and then they'll tell everyone on the left Tim Pool is far right or whatever and then

the people actually watch the show are like Tim's a liberal all right Tim I have to say when you when I'd agree I'd say Tim's a I don't know what you're being sarcastic or not now because I know you've been doing this just like I don't know what what would you call it but I know when you're kind of sarcastic. It's called gaslighting. No, no, no. Hold on, hold on. I have consistently and always said I'm in favor of a higher progressive tax on the healthy.

No, that is true. Always, always. And the reason I tweeted it is because I was like – I finally started to notice. I never really cared that much, and I was like, oh, you know what's happening? The manipulation machine, the media machine needs an enemy. They need to make money off this. So they purposefully watch the show and ignore all of the normal kind of liberal positions I might hold. And then look for that one thing that's kind of conservative.

And then they take that and they put it on Twitter. Well, I was on a reality TV show, actually. It was not very watched, but it was in 2016. It was called House Divided. It was on full screen media. I think they scrubbed it. After Hillary lost, it was a big we don't need to go there. But basically you sign a contract where you can basically sign everything away.

It's like we can repurpose your content for whatever to portray you as whatever we want. So I went in there and I'm like, you know, I'm across the board. You can't really put my politics in a box very easily. And so I said, you know, I'd be a libertarian who supports a lot of kind of, you know, big government efforts to even the playing field. But that doesn't fit in a box. Right.

So I said, oh, they'd say, what do you think about this? Well, the conservative conservative movement, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, what are your politics? I'm like on camera in my interview, then cut to B-roll and then cut to me saying conservative in a different instance. Wait, wait, wait. They did that?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. What do you think of this girl? Oh, she's really, she's pretty. She's super nice. What do you think about the weather outside? It was super hot outside. Oh, she's cut to B-roll hot.

So like, I'm telling you, like no, seriously. And my contract, there's no recourse because the contract you sign, you sign it so by the way please everybody out there don't go look this show up because it's really bad what was the show called again it's called uh but it's it's like it just goes to show how you can just take you say enough words you're on camera for eight hours a day they can choose whatever they want and then use the power of

editing to just oh yeah portray whatever they want i love it when there was one clip that went viral of me where there was literal jump cuts like and because i was issuing caveats i was like here's what i think now keep in mind a b and c one two three but with that said exactly they cut out all the cabinets so it's like me going like i I think that Donald Trump is the greatest president ever. Joe Biden is the worst. What's that app that people were putting like famous people, they'll be singing the song like a deep fake. That scared the crap out of me. That's I think we're having a good time. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Take a picture of you and then make a dance. Yeah, that. I was like, oh, this is not good. Whatever, man. Welcome to the future. It's coming fast. That might even be happening right now. We don't realize it. Like if the deep state or like, you know, the CIA or like, what else is there? Boston dynamic.

These weird like secret programs work. Because if we know that it's pretty advanced, if the public sees that, I can only imagine the stuff that's be worked on behind the scenes. There were pyramids, pyramid shaped objects flying over U.S. naval destroyers. But I heard they couldn't find a base for these pyramids. So they're actually triangles. A base? A pyramid has a base to it, so that means it's three-dimensional. But I don't think they could see the dimensions, right?

So it's just triangles, right? Because they have gravitational warp speed. Anything that you see publicly, they got something way better. Yeah. So these deep things. We know confidentiality exists we know top secret exists we know there is you know classification so that means when you see like here's our latest robot well there are secret things you don't know about wait so which side of

the culture war are the aliens on then because we just got to circle i would i would honestly i would anarchy side i would i would uh there's there's two schools of thought on this. The aliens would be on the side of the woke because you look at like – you've seen Rick and Morty, right? Yes. When the Galactic Federation takes over Earth, everyone is forced to eat pills and do menial labor for the sake of just having a job. And so there's one – I shouldn't say there's two schools, but one idea is that they're on the side of the woke because they need everyone to be drone-like and ideologically homogenous so that there's a one-world system. The Galactic Federation can't work with the United States so long as there's fractured nation-states, which would mean the nationalists are certainly at odds with any alien endeavor to communicate with us because who would they negotiate with? Each different country? Get out of here.

Could you imagine if you were like, we're going to go talk to Russia and they had ten presidents? You'd be like, no, it's a waste of our time. Get one president. Get out of it. What if they're interdimensional beings, though? But the other idea is that they're anti-woke because they're looking to work with those that are intellectually discerning and can understand nuance and complex thought. And there's no point in engaging with a drone-like species. That's what I think.

I mean, I hope, I guess, a Star Trek future of enlightenment values as opposed to Borg-like values. You guys ever practice psychic energy? I would say cosmic energy. Cosmic energy. Tell me about it. It's a different thing. I mean, people pick up on vibrations. That's why I have the mustache.

It's like you can pick up on, yeah. It's attached to nerves. People pick up on vibrations. That's why I have the mustache. It's like you can pick up on... It's attached to nerves underneath. Electromagnetic vibrations. Why do cats have whiskers? They can sense energy. For balance. Yeah. Apparently if you catch whiskers off, they can't walk properly. Did you ever see those wolves that

line up to magnetic north? They're foxes, I think foxes, and then they hunt, but they'll line up to magnetic north. And they're fox – I think foxes. And then they hunt. But they'll, like, line up to magnetic north. And then they'll, like, sense the rabbit. And then they'll dive and catch it in the snow. That's interesting. Yeah, dude. I just know for humans – because I read it in Thinking Grow Rich.

And I think I've felt it a couple times. It's flow state. Yeah. That's, like, a normal thing for humans. It's, you know – Like when you're shredding the gnar. Yeah. Shredding the gnar. I think it's you cool your frontal lobe. It's like when you're shredding the gnar. Yeah. Shredding the gnar.

I think it's you cool your frontal lobe. It's almost – I don't know. It's just like you're in an intense focus. Yeah. And I mean I felt it when I was – I feel like I felt it even in some of like the chaotic scenes. But yeah, you're just in a flow state. Things just click. It's just one of those – What do we used to call it?

Your ego. When I used to cover riots, time slows down. It's the greatest thing ever. So people describe it as time slowing down, but I think I found a better way to describe it, at least for me. It's not that time slowed down. It kind of feels that way. Like you can just see everything and you're moving really quick and you're dodging. But to me, I think the easier way to explain it is that when you're normally looking at something, you're focused on a single point and you have peripheral vision,

which is kind of out of focus and you can kind of sort of understand. But for me, when I'd be in a riot and some high intensity thing would happen, all of my vision would become the same focus. Like peripheral vision, my whole field of vision would become crystal clear and I could see everything perfectly as if it was not peripheral.

And that, I think, simulated some kind of time slowing down because your brain is processing everything really really fast and at once so it's like you're seeing everything and then you can make a move it kind of feels like time slows down that's probably your flow state then tim right it's like getting barreled bro it's getting barreled barreled it's like getting shacked in a wave dude what yeah like all the water you feel that like you're you're you're out there and then all of a sudden you see like someone raise a weapon pull a trigger and then all of a sudden you're just like well i told the i mean i when i spoke to police after the shooting i

basically all of my estimations on time were way over because i was like oh i think i interviewed him yeah it was like 40 minutes and maybe it was an hour it was 15 minutes you know but there's so many things leading up when you're, yeah. I would think if time is a perception of motion, then if you're experiencing more motion that it would seem like less time was happening. I wonder

if it's actually the perception of time is based upon the amount of information you're processing. So if you're experiencing something that you've experienced a million times before, your brain disregards it. And then time starts speeding up the older you get because your brain is ignoring making the coffee in the morning. It doesn't register anymore. When you're younger, making that coffee for the first or 10th time, it's like relatively new.

So when you're in a conflict zone, every, your brain is basically like in this circumstance, we must process any and all process process any and all information that comes to us for the sake of our safety time feels like it's going slower because your brain is running all of these calculations and not ignoring anything so it's like actually i guess a better way to put it is that's the true experience of time when all of the information is coming into your brain and then the way we normally experience time is there's gaps because we forget things that don't matter that's why i like when i eat a big mac it seems so quick exactly because your brain and then the way we normally experience time is there's gaps because we forget things that don't matter that's why i like when i eat a big mac it seems so quick exactly because your brain doesn't care and then you forgot you did it that's why people can't remember what they had for

breakfast it just happened so quick it's gone but the first time you had a big mac i thought it was every bite takes forever i still remember it yeah no but like you ask people what you have for breakfast yesterday and they'll be like what did i have i can't remember because it's irrelevant yeah it's okay it's already routine i bet i could ask you about what did you have for breakfast yesterday? And they'll be like, what did I have for breakfast? I can't remember. Because it's irrelevant. Yeah, it's okay. It's already routine. But I bet I could ask you about what happened in Kenosha, and you could probably give me crazy details and explain all this crazy story. You'd never forget it. I mean, that's a very good point.

It's like, I guess, you know, the amount of details that stick out in your mind. And that was the interesting part, too, after the fact is like talking with the New York Times reporters and stitching together all these different streams. And he's like, hey, when you're running after Kyle, like you stopped. Like, why did you stop? There's something fell on the ground. And I was like, oh, my God. Yeah, I stopped because my gas mask fell out of my bag because I opened my gas mask bag right before I saw Kyle to break out a white claw to diffuse the situation with these guys who want to smash my head in. And so I didn't ever clip my gas mask back in because I saw Kyle running and then I just ran after him. And that kind of stuff you don't forget.

Exactly. But you forget what you had for breakfast. You know what I mean? I mean that figuratively. I don't know if you remember what you had for breakfast. But people forget the little nonsensical things that don't matter. But when you're in the fray, man, everything is... So you think... Sorry, sorry sorry that's why everyone said 2020 went actually no this is weird 20 i guess this is why everyone said 2020 went by so fast because we were all sitting in our

apartments doing the same thing over and over and over again so everybody was like wow i can't believe how how how you know how i feel like 2020 was like six seven years something really yeah i i see a lot of people tweeting was not doing the same thing every day already december i can't I feel like 2020 was like six, seven years. Really? Yeah. I see a lot of people tweeting. I was not doing the same thing every day. I can't believe it's already December. I can't believe it's already like, whoa, where did this year go? I guess depending on who you were.

Because for a lot of people, they never experienced pandemic before. So everything was new. For a lot of other people locked in their apartments, everything was redundant. Like solitary confinement would seem like a million years, right? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it just depends on different people because I've heard both, I guess.

You lose track of time. You don't realize some people overestimate, some people underestimate. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I kind of agree with you, Richard. I feel like 2020 lasted longer than a year. I guess just because all the commotion that we were in. And, yeah, I think another interesting thing, too, is when you're on the ground,

obviously you have the flow state, but you start to actually pick up on a lot of tendencies. I think they've used the word tendencies in sports more, but you start to pick up tendencies on protesters, agitators, law enforcement, just little knickknacks that you already know, kind of, you know, you can kind of predict some things before they pop up. Let's do this. I do want to talk about some cultural stuff in a bit, but I want to do one more because I want to ask you guys your thoughts on what's going to happen. But first I want to pull up this story because we only briefly mentioned it.

Governor Walz declares an emergency. He's bringing in police from Ohio and Nebraska. You mentioned that the Senate passed a $9 million emergency fund. They're bringing in all these other police. So the verdict is supposed to come soon. The state is declaring an emergency. They the national guard already on on scene we don't know what the verdict is going to be it's possible it's going to be a hung jury because that means they can't come to a decision that seems possible on the merits i've seen some legal analysts say it's not guilty across the board however due to the, some people are saying either a hung jury or guilty across the board.

I've been seeing the exact same thing. When I reach out to the professional lawyer, I think like Will Chamberlain, there's other great lawyers that are doing great analysis of it right now. They don't see any way this could be guilty. But one thing some of them have mentioned is said, hey, this thing is so politicized that the jurors might just do it anyway um this whole thing and then um tim did you get to see um the prosecution's like last sentence was like oh um you guys say that george floyd died because his heart was too big uh you know uh he died because derrick chauvin's heart was too small which was odd for me because like on most on most final lines they they end on like a fact or something right this they go off that but it kind of he he more because it's like on most on most final lines they they end on like a fact or some

right this they go off that but it kind of he he more did it for like media i don't know that's what i took it i don't know what you guys the most watched trial in history i guess well so so first i'll ask you guys i don't know if you've been following i've been following the court case but you guys have been on the ground so i don't know if you've been following a lot of the trial stuff but i'm curious what you guys think based on what you've already seen based on your experience what's coming next what's going to happen in minnesota richie i mean i don't think it really matters honestly i think verdict yeah and like we actually when we were on the ground the last night in brooklyn center it i commented to jorge after the fact it ended up being a completely peaceful evening but at the beginning like jorge was like inquiring to me like, yo, you want to go live, man? And I was so bugged out

by all the people, all the anti-media sentiment, all the anti-corporation, just like the anger in the crowd was so palpable that Jorge is like hitting me up. And like, I knew that there was one of the organizers in our area. And I was just like, Jorge was like, wow, Rich is kind of being a jerk. But I just like was, I was bugged out that honestly, even me acknowledging him was going to tip people. Everyone was just so mad that I don't know. I think it's a powder keg that has nothing to do with the actual realities of the case or anything like that. It's just it's going to pop off no matter what. Because, yeah.

And it's just like lockdowns. It's economics. It's politics. I just want to add a little bit. I agree with Rich because when you talk to folks on the ground, for them it's like if they don't hear the word murder, it just doesn't matter. And I just think that no matter what happens, we're going to see an eruption. I'm going more off the – if it's like a prediction thing, I actually don't think the riots are going to hit the magnitude that it did last summer. I think last summer too many factors rolled in, COVID, the unemployment.

I mean I think some people were making like $600 per week on unemployment. I think all that kind of factored into that. I don't know if we could reach that, but I agree with Rich. I just think for me, if they don't hear the word like murder in there, it's not going to be good. But Maxi Waters said first degree maxi which there's no degree well there's second degree and third it's yeah i mean he's on trial for murder just not premeditated murder yeah so she wants first degree i think i think it's it's a good point to say that they're gonna say he was never tried for the true crime of first degree murder and so no matter what

how well of a job do you think Eric Nelson did with Derek Chauvin? Do you think he at least put a good case in front of the jury where there's no reasonable doubt? I'll say this. From my personal opinion as someone who knows nothing – knows little about the law relative to any of these lawyers, I felt like the state failed to prove its case. They couldn't convince me that – like, dude, I made several videos angry at chauvin when all this went down and i was like this is crazy and i was like he shouldn't have done this and then i watched this trial and i'm like they did nothing to prove that chauvin caused the death of george floyd they only gave me maybe it happened this way in fact the prosecution said at one point

maybe it was his enlarged heart maybe not but chauvin but i'm like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa maybe but by the way yeah it has to be it doesn't okay so in order to prove murder it has to be beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended to kill him yeah in that moment in that space no it doesn't so i got this wrong uh it's because they're doing the felony murder rule they're saying he had the he had to and he had to have the intention to use force against Floyd for felony assault that Floyd died from. So it's the felony murder rule. Okay.

So if you're attempting felony assault, then they die as a result of it, then it's felony murder. And for murder three, the equivalent, according to legal instructions analysis, would be like murder three is if you're shooting a gun randomly into a crowd and you kill somebody like you're doing something that can result in death but you weren't targeting somebody so i gotta be honest or even the the the the charges and we were talking about that how like they won't even you were saying that they will probably won't even get to 40 years which is probably gonna anger you know this crowd they i watched the defense and i was shocked when i heard the prosecution's own witness admit derrick chauvin could have used more force even a taser if he

wanted to that was the state's witness on cross saying this and as soon as i heard that i was like okay i'm done now now you mean to tell me that you're you're claiming he committed assault against george floyd and he could have legally used more force than he did. Then how is what he did a felony assault? He used less force and he was allowed to as a cop. I'm not happy it happened, man. But if the cop, if your own witness is saying that. So I'll say this.

The state did a bad job. The defense did a pretty good job. Near the end, the state started doing a bit of a better job hitting the points they needed to hit and the defense slipped on their own expert witness but ultimately after looking at everything it was just the state's own witnesses firing shots back at them and hurting their case and it looks like the defense's strategy the whole time was to have a short uh short case so that the state went for several days then uh the defense was substantially less i think they only had like two or three witnesses but then they did like three hours of closing

arguments laying out all of the cases i gotta tell you man the defense is closing arguments wow it's i'm for me it's beyond a reasonable doubt but what i'm saying is i have if it's reasonable doubt that he committed a crime is all it takes for me. I think they've actually proven Chauvin's innocence. But is this one case, this particular example, is it just too politicized that the jury is going to say, you know what? We got to convict this guy because it's either our life or the city's or across the U.S. I don't know. This one is a city councilwoman voted to fire the city manager and she said it's because i was scared they would retaliate against me so i think the jury's sitting there and they're and they're

going like i don't care about this guy he's guilty no matter what anyone says because i don't want to get shot that's that's where i think they're at i mean well i don't know i don't know i mean at a certain point like you said i mean mean, that's your civic duty, right? And whether you like it or not, you've stepped into that role. Like, am I going to cater what I saw on the night of Kenosha just because I feel like people want me to say one thing or another? Like, no, obviously not. And, like, at a certain point, you know, if you're serving, you've got to determine what role you're serving in that particular situation. And if you're a witness or if you're a jury member, you have to just do your best.

And then, I mean, I don't know. If someone wants to, you know. If it were me on the jury and after everything I've seen, I'd be saying not guilty. I could probably be convinced of maybe manslaughter. Like if we argued over one of the evidence and I heard a compelling case, but I'd probably still be leaning towards not guilty. And I'm not going to change

my views based on what Antifa, the left, or the media would say of me. I tweeted that the Kyle Rittenhouse situation convinced me to finally like, was one of the things that finally convinced me I got to vote for Trump. Because the way the media was lying and portraying everything and demonizing this this kid who far from perfect but still it was you know self-defense if if the media is going to be i have no comment on that obviously no for sure for sure yeah but for me that's what it felt

like and then trump pinned the tweet and it became a talking point the white house press corps was asking the you know uh kaylee mcadney like trump pinned this tweet i'm gonna say what i think even if if they're gonna smear me over it i'm yeah if antifa threatens me i'll i'll tell you this i gotta be honest i'm the kind of person to where if one of these antifa guys or anybody threatens me i double down yeah i'll like bring it i've gotten i mean i've gotten that way i've gotten them from both sides because also i'm a victim in the criminal complaint so like the people who support, who are anti-Kyle Rittenhouse have come after me because like, oh, whatever, this guy's a terrorist, blah, blah, blah.

And then the other side is saying, you're a wuss. You're not a victim. And I just have to say what I experienced in the moment. And the prosecution might take what I say and make it to suit their role in this situation. It's an adversarial relationship. It's really fascinating watching a trial like this. And you really start to understand really, it's really, really interesting how the truth can be mass a vice article just saying open fire um and that terminology like it's just it's no concern for what happened on the ground it was like okay now

okay i can't wait until the trial i obviously have to say something before but there's politics at play man i'd imagine you're gonna get a lot more heat from the left i don't know. I've honestly gotten a lot of crap from, from the right, from the, from the pro Kyle. I don't know. Honestly, like I don't really,

I don't think it matters like who I'm getting crap from because I'm still going to stay the same no matter what. It's pretty simple. It's just what I saw and heard. But at the same time, it has been definitely an educational experience that maybe I can talk about after the trial. Cause until then, I'm just trying my best. Yeah. I maybe I can talk about after the trial. Cause until then,

I'm just trying my best. Yeah. I think there was also two on the car in house. There's just that story. I believe there was that man who like worked in the medical field and he like donated like 10 bucks into Kyle Rittenhouse. And like a local journalist was like, we're doing an investigation.

We're at his front door and asking him about his donor. It's like, dude, it's 10 bucks. I mean, okay. You know, I think, I think it was despicable if, if it were 10 bucks. I mean, okay. You know, I think it was

despicable if it were me, though. I don't know if the guy answered him or whatever. If a reporter knocked on my door, first, I'd be like, did you see the no trespassing sign? Like, you can go. But if it was a reporter like we want to get a comment, I have left this hit me up for ridiculous stories. I answer them to the best of my ability.

Yeah, exactly. I think there's a lot to be said for that instead of shutting it down. Well, I see a lot of conservatives will be like, no, to a request for comment. I had someone hit me up from a leftist smear machine, and I wrote him a book. I wrote like 3,000 words. Yeah. Went in depth and bold things, and I'm like, I got all the time of day to talk about what I think. So here you go, man.

Have at it. And I'm very respectful and nice. I'm like, appreciate that you reached out and gave me the opportunity to say my piece and hope uh wish the best for you and have a good day good sir and then but then when people see that from that outlet then that basically transcends that gap that we're talking about that schism between the two trenches like what they do is when you supply them with enough words they they can selectively yeah because but that's why you got to fight that battle. I have basically been fighting that battle to get my word out to both sides. And I think actually the one piece that I'm most proud of came out on the Huffington Post.

And Mary, to her credit, basically wrote this entire article about Rosenbaum's last moments. And just because of where people perceive me as coming from politically, they didn't care about my account of that. But those are the same people that are supposed to be saying, this guy died and we should remember him. And so that account of his last moments I think is important to just bring people back to the humanity of it doesn't matter what this guy's ideology is. It doesn't matter the fact that he literally came from a mental hospital, apparently, right before he got shot. And then I have people all over the place, why did you try to save that sexual pedo? It's like, dude, if somebody's dying in front of you, that's the point.

It doesn't matter what their ideology is. This is interesting, though, because the defense in the Chauvin trial pointed out this is not about the perspective of a doctor who's watched hundreds of hours of footage for a year. It's not about the perspective of individuals who showed up after everything already happened and then told you their experience. It's the perspective of the officer who was there and what he felt, what he perceived, and what he knew. And Derek Chauvin is not a cardiopulmonologist who understands what a seizure is. His perspective is George Floyd kicking is a resisting arrest.

Now a doctor may watch that later and say that was a seizure, but how would a street cop know that? For you, when you see a guy shot and he's on the ground, how are you supposed to know what his history is or where he came from? All you know is there's a guy in front of me bleeding. I have no idea who the guy is. He could be a saint for all I know. He could be a local

youth pastor or he could be a diddler. and by the way kyle kyle ran back up behind me after the shooting and i screamed at him to call 9-1-1 not even concerned with who it was or whatever and then you know after the fact realizing it's the guy who had he had a gun right behind me but my concern was like for one thing. It's humanity. Yeah. And I was like, excuse me, what are your politics? It's like hindsight is 2020. It's like AOC when she lied about what happened to the Capitol. The fascinating thing about it, she told that story where she hid in her bathroom and she was like, oh, no, they got in the building.

That story was clearly fabricated because it included details you would only know in hindsight. At the time that AOC went to, you know, at the time she cited was like, you know, just around 1 p.m. No one had gotten any buildings. There was no one even trying to get any buildings. Only because a day later we saw what happened. She now says, at that time I was scared they got in the building because she's calling upon the anger and the fear people people had from the building being breached but that morning nobody knew that was going to happen that's how you know she made it up people often forget about situational context so they look at like the written house thing and they're like why didn't you why did you help that guy who's a bad person you're like you found that out like a month later yeah i i'm there on the ground i don't know

if this guy's gonna seizure i don't know if he's a criminal i just know that there's a guy in front of me who's resisting or i know there's a guy in front of me who's resisting or i know this guy in front of me who's hurt and it's always easy for people in the outside to say oh you should have done this should have done that until they're in that moment and i think i don't know if you want to maybe add on this rich i think what maybe happened to you was just fight or flight right i think you know yeah there's no there was no time yeah to make any decisions and like i don't know i mean i look back it's like could i have done anything else to yeah for me like knowing you know richie personally and and you know working

under him you know to me when i heard that i was like man like it feels good to be associated with someone that is willing to do that for someone like i i was like i felt i you know you feel a moment probably hey i'm glad that like to call him like my editor whatever because to me that was like you know when people ask me, what would you do? I'm like, I'm out. I'm out. So I don't think I could have done the same thing. So I think it was a brave thing to do.

And yeah, I thought it was something that should have been done. It didn't matter at the end of the day. Ultimately, was there anything that could have been done to save his life? The toothpaste can't go back into the tube. But you just think to yourself like why did that situation exist in the first place and the only thing that i can do from here is to take that human experience and actually you know try to express to people that you know like it's not just a video game and like i've seen so many times when we have these crazy

situations unfolding in front of us and people are just on their phones and they're just keen on what the next tweet is. And at a certain point, the game becomes reality and it's like people suffer and die as a result of what we're seeing on the ground right now. And it's not just people who die there. It's people who die as a result of the narrative. It's like how many people are economically suffering because this news outlet wants to push this narrative or whatever? Remember that video, I think it was from Portland, where someone got hit with a rubber bullet in their leg

and they had a mild bruise with some bleeding. And then they're like, we've got to put on a tourniquet, man. Tourniquet medic. And the guy who got hit in the leg is crying. And he's like, I don't want to lose my leg! And it's like, wow. These kids think they're playing tiddlywinks when they're playing for keeps.

They go out there and they think, you need a tourniquet, man! It's like, dude, his leg was fine. He was bleeding a little bit. You put some gauze on it, just put bandage over it, you're fine. But these people are going out there thinking that they're literally the resistance fighting a war and they're playing a game and then people get

hurt and then they it's it's it's it's insane to me i guess it's people without purpose they wish they were the you know their grandparents or great-grandparents storming the beaches of normandy when in fact they're just a bunch of kids with umbrellas and they weigh 100 pounds soaking wet, and they think they're literally the anti-fascist coalition fighting the Nazis. Yeah, and I think I was on the ground covering these events, and I think I forgot who I told it to. I'm like, because you'll be at these events, and then when they do the speeches part, everyone wants to give their speech.

Everyone thinks that their speech is going to make a difference. I remember turning to one of our fellow reporters i was like i'm like why does everyone think they're malcolm x bro like everyone thinks everyone thinks that like they're they're gonna have their malcolm x moment and i just think it's it's that it's it's lost purpose and i think when when people see something like that it's it's tribal it makes them feel like they're part of something maybe it feels like they're they're part of a revolution they're gonna overturn the the police state but uh what's the answer then like if those people don't have purpose and they're out there for those reasons and they don't have anything else to turn to then how do we fix that and like what

in our society can we like i don't know how to fix that obviously but i think the root problem goes back to the family structure and the home and i think i think as a country we need to do that too i think one of the biggest mistakes that i think that we made as a country is for example with like women we like now make it seem bad that if if a woman wants to stay home and like nurture her kids and just be a stay-at-home mom and just raise like three kids for them to be good citizens. We look down upon that because now it's like, oh, well, while you're staying home, you could be out there.

You could be a CEO of a company, and you could be doing this. And I just think the whole system of not having that family structure, I think, is leading to a lot of these root problems. But also, we are in a current situation where even if moms wanted to stay at home for their kids, they can't because wages have stagnated for four years. And so the point is, is that in this whole situation, and that's why I mentioned the fact that now that Trump is gone, it's a whole different ballgame is because just prior to that, during the Trump era, it was like, well, you're either you're either for Trump or you're not. And now that he's gone, it's like, wait a second, all the underlying problems that caused people to go to the streets in the first place on both sides of the political spectrum, those all still exist. And so unless we address those, then everybody will continue to dig deeper and deeper. So I guess the only point is how do we address those underlying problems

in a responsible manner in the media? Because that's why we're here, in my opinion. And I think you're right.'s a it's an economic problem um i think one of the biggest things that i think on the right we just they just failed to talk about i don't know why for instance like when someone on the left comes out and says we want free college people on the right make fun of like oh my god look this guy wants free college and blah blah i paid my way but it's just like well if you look at college, now we have 22-year-old couples graduating, 40,000 in debt, 80,000, sometimes more. Never had a job in their life.

Exactly. And now that 22-year-old looks at his girlfriend and says, hey, babe, I love you. I want to get married. I want to have kids. But we're both in debt. Let's put it off until 30. And I think that – there's a lot of factors in this. So it's complicated, but I think that's one of the systems that we need to look at is now younger people are graduating with debt.

They're not having kids. I know in the United States we have a birth rate problem, and it's not helping. Actually, I just made a tweet a week ago. I know I'm probably going to get roasted a little bit for it. But I said, if you actually want to save the country, get married and have five kids, you actually are serving your country if you do that. And you're five kids. Mark that time code too. Cancel Jorge.

But I do believe corporations, politics, politicians, they all have made it harder for us to have families, have kids. And I think we're now seeing that destruction come out in society when it comes to riots and protests and all the crime that we're seeing. That's why they're going into schools though. They're going to schools with critical race theory

to make sure that even if you have kids, they're going to indoctrinate them before you can. Yeah, they want to keep people confused. And when I say they, I mean like the Federal Reserve. We've got to default on that interest to the Federal Reserve and evolve our economy to a cryptocurrency economy. But I've got to say, Ian, when you bring up the Federal Reserve, you're basically like imagine there's a giant Mechagodzilla and you're pointing to one of his claws on his finger going, that's the problem right there. That one finger. We're like, bro, it's Mechagodzilla and you're pointing to one of his claws on his finger going, that's the problem right there. That one finger. We're like, bro, it's Mechagodzilla. Yeah.

But if you hit it with a laser, it'll it's will accelerate the heat and then it will send the whole thing into psychic shock. I don't I don't think so, man. There's there's so much. It has many weak points. The finger is one of them. It is a good point. The Federal Reserve is a broken system that basically allows special interests to extract

the value of the working class and the labor force and then buy ridiculous things with it. We don't even know what they're doing. But the bigger problem is just before you can even get to that, you've got to deal with the fact that Mechagodzilla has got a force field, the media. How do you get people to actually help you build the powerful laser to take out Mechagodzilla's index finger? I mean, dude, you've got a pretty legit operation here. I mean, that's testament to the fact that somebody who speaks the alternative, you know, something that's beyond just like the corporate talking points

that can succeed. Rods from God? The Riot Squad, at least you know, I can give Jorge like one to two sandwiches a week when he does a real good job. Of course, please. Who would you, so in terms of like fox news talking to you and cnn talking to you about what happened with rittenhouse where do

you think you're you were able to like actually express the truth the best on cnn after i threatened to sue them the cnn gave you the best opportunity after i threatened to sue them i like that i'm serious like it was only and it was the same guy who did the original story and i give him a lot of credit for coming back and doing it but also i think you know probably i don't really know what happened behind the scenes but probably somebody was like you screwed this up you better not get a suit now throw an independent media and out of all the different platforms that exist so i i think that the independent media has kind of if you're if you're digital media right then um you're only as powerful as how

many views you get. You're only as relevant as how many retweets you get. That's why Jorge, Shelby, and I, and everybody at The Caller, it's like, yo, don't use terminology just to get likes. Don't say just exactly what your audience wants to hear. And in fact, oftentimes we're doing quite the opposite. But over time, hopefully, that pays off. I think the challenge is, I think it's hilarious. The leftists would call me a grifter, but it's based upon their pulling bunk clips. I wish I would just, look, there's so many people on YouTube who just say the most outrageous shock stuff and they get the biggest views and it ain't my channel.

Certainly, there are people who criticize the titles I use and I'm like those are my actual opinions man you know what i mean i'm not simply saying things for the sake of you know trying to build the biggest audience otherwise i probably have a lot bigger audience honestly i'd be playing minecraft fortnite or some other modern video game which is family friendly just do this exactly you open a private browser and go to youtube and i assure you people who are in politics i I think for the most part, aren't grifting. I think they believe it. They just believe wrong things, and that includes me. That includes progressives.

I think for the most part, most people in politics aren't grifting except for the corporate media that are trying to get their foot in the door. I think independent media tends to be all right. At least in terms of what they think. I think for sure it's grifting because they'll literally just get a PR statement from the Democratic Party and they'll just report it. So MSNBC, to me, they're just PR for the Democratic Party. So grifting season all day for them. Is CNN not that?

No, but I mean, I think it's actually, and I hear people say this all the time, like, oh, corporate media, they want this or they want that. It's not to say that like, because like working at NBC and MSNBC, I would say the real revealing thing was that not the fact that like everything is scripted per se, it's still live, but if you step out of line from those, you know, you're on the B, you're in the B block, right?

You're this guest and your perspective is this. If you stray from that, you say something that was unpredictable to those producers, bye-bye. You be on msnbc ever again and so it's like yeah exactly so it's like it's not that it's like um you know you have zucker being like you have to say this or else it's like really just it's the same thing that you see with like people wanting to post like you know a black box on their instagram it's like everybody else is doing it and And if I don't do it, then I'm the outcast. And so it's self-policing. It's not like somebody has to stand up there and say, do this. Man, where's punk rock gone, man?

No, seriously. It's at the Daily Caller. It's in your heart. No, no, listen. Listen, these punk bands are like pro-establishment. I don't know if you guys noticed the bad religion pun that I made earlier. I think I made a joke about it with Richo. It's funny how

everyone thinks they're part of the revolution. I'm like, Amazon is on your side. Netflix is on your side. Everyone's like, oh, the revolution will only be televised.

I'm like, Amazon and Netflix are on your side. I got to tell you, when bad religion is on the side of Amazon, something happens. Sounds like it'll be

a quick revolution if that's the case. It'll be very quick. Yeah. Please tell me Rage Against the Machine is still hopefully not established. They're Rage on Behalf of the Machine. That's been the meme for a long time. Rage Against the Machine is on the side of Amazon.

Thank you. I'm going to do what you tell me. Thank you. I'm going to do what you tell me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It used to be F you, I won't do what you tell me. Thank you. I'm going to do what you tell me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It used to be F you, I won't do what you tell me. Now it's yes, sir, I'll do what you tell me. Or actually it's F you, do what they tell you.

Oh, that's worse. Yeah. That's what it is. They're coming to your house. They're coming to your business. They're burning it down. They're not saying they're going to do what they're being told. They're going to say you do what you're told or else.

Oh, my God. Yeah, man. Come on, Rach. That was hilarious. That was better than that better than that man we're growing up on bulls on parade when when all these punk bands you know all of a sudden like pro machine yeah there you go the machine one i guess i don't know what punk is anymore i think of it as just like counterculture not even not even punk too like hip-hop and rap was super against establishment, man. Like back in the nineties, you had the NWA, F the police. And then now it's like, you know, they're on Amazon and Nike. And it's like, what happened to hip hop?

Hip hop used to be so rebellious. Corporations figured it out, man. You look at, you look at public enemy and the things they were saying. And the corporation's like, how can we stop these people yelling at us? I know we'll adopt their message. It won't hurt us in the least bit. And they'll have no choice, but to be like, I guess we agree. And they have these rappers tap dancing for Joe Biden.

That's exactly right. In the 90s, they were chilling your dad, bro. Well, that's the point, though. At the time, and I talked to my mom about this. Shout out to mom one more time. But seriously, though, because my parents lived through, they lived in Washington, D.C. during the counterculture movement of the late 60s and early 70s. But at that time, were corporations like

support the anti-Vietnam war effort? No, they were not. And so at that time, counterculture is a critique on the mainstream, right? But when the critique, when counterculture becomes the mainstream, then there's

no critique. It's just the mainstream. So we're meta now. The critique is the mainstream now. So what ground do we have to stand on collectively that we're critiquing? We're also watching too, Rich, is we're watching the realignment happen in real time. Back in the 90s or when your parents were growing up, the left was anti-big business. They're anti-corporations.

That was me. I was anti-Bush. The left in the 70s would be mad at the wages that Amazon is paying their employees now. They're just happy that Amazon puts a Black Lives Matter thing while they're shipping a product on Amazon Prime. But to be fair, the progressives don't like Amazon. It's like the – I like that progressives. Liberal, neoliberal, uninitiated, mindless Democrat voters.

There it is. Because I'll tell you this. Look, I don't care for the grifter type. I shouldn't say grifter. I'm trying to be nice. But there's a lot of progressives who seem to be tribalist. And they will defend the neolib, mindless Democrat voters. But there are some progressives, pro-gun, anti-establishment, don't like Joe Biden.

I'm like, look, we agree on all that stuff. So I'm not going to argue with you. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I mean, we can argue about economics as friends., we agree on all that stuff. So I'm not going to argue with you. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I mean, we can argue about economics as friends and we can have a good time and then celebrate that we're all armed to the teeth

and stand in opposition to the war machine and the manipulation of massive corporations. I'm cool with the progressives on that one and the conservatives on that one. I think the libertarian, actually, I'll put it this way. It was a funny meme from Political Compass memes. And it's the libertarian left and the libertarian right. The libertarian left actually, I'll put it this way. It was a funny meme from Political Compass Memes. And it's the libertarian left and the libertarian right. And the libertarian left says defund the police and the libertarian right's smiling.

And the next one is the libertarian left grinning and saying because they're racist. And the libertarian right getting angry. Like, dude, I don't care what your reason is for it. You know what I mean? I think the libertarian right and left are both in agreement. When do you think, I mean, it's very clear that the kind of populist left and the populist right have a much, you know, an anti-establishment bend to them,

which is like, let's reassess the way that, you know, we do government, etc. When are those two sides going to see eye to eye? Because right now, what we're seeing is the left basically being held hostage by the fact that Biden, who's a centrist was elected and now everyone's like wait a second no you're not it's the media no no no the problem

is high profile leftists who are pro 2a and anti-establishment willing to capitulate to establishment democrat voters because they want power i i'm not going to name these people but i tell you this power or approval they want power so they don't going to name these people, but I tell you this. Power or approval? They want power. So they don't like Donald Trump. The populist left doesn't like the idea of hard nationalist capitalism or whatever. They want socialism. So they feel it's easier to topple Joe Biden than Trump. So they align themselves with neolib establishment Democrat types.

That's why AOC votes for Nancy Pelosi. Look what Marjorie Taylor Greene's doing. The Republicans hate her guts. She's like going nuclear. She raised like three million bucks last week. It was massive. And now she's trying to get Maxine Waters booted. She's just absolutely like taking a torch to the machine.

The Republicans hate her guts for it. Majors being what AOC was supposed to be. Because AOC was supposed to be anti-establishment, force of vote, Medicare for all, $15 minimum wage. You ain't getting none of that. No force of vote, nothing. This is the problem. I can look to some of these leftists who are pro 2A, anti-establishment. I'm like, that's a good start.

And then they're like, but I will always throw my hat in with the establishment because it gets me power. I'm like, okay, now we got a problem. Yeah, I mean that's a tale as old as time right there. It was like if you're, you know, because I'm always speaking to progressives, but if you're a progressive voter, you wanted a $15 million wage, universal health care, and all that stuff, you didn't get any of it. You didn't get it. And the progressives that in Washington, D.C. didn't even fight for it or force the vote.

Let's pull this into perspective. You're not even getting a $15 million wage. That's crazy. The Trump voters hate the Republicans. They hate Mitch McConnell. They don't like Lindsey Graham. They call Mike Pence a traitor. Donald Trump was aggressive and stormed in and took over the Republicans.

Bernie Sanders stormed in and got shoved down. And the Bernie Sanders types decided to agree with the Democrats for the sake of just maintaining some kind of leverage. And the Trump supporters took over. And then the Republicans fought Trump, agreed with Russiagate, tried to get him out, and then literally did. It's interesting you say that because a lot during the 2016 election, a lot of the Daily Caller subscribers, followers were all Bernie supporters. Wow. And it just goes to show that Hillary Clinton was kind of ideologically representative of the centrist establishment, which is like, we'll just keep those wars going and everything will be fine. We came, we saw, he died.

I think you also saw a generation of voters on the left and right that said, well, why will we keep voting for these people? They just shipped our jobs to China. My dad is now on opioids and we're getting a divorce and our family's breaking up. So that's a thing. But for me, the reason why we're not seeing the populist left and the populist right come more together than it already is, is because of media. Like I said, if you turn on Fox and anyone that agrees with Bernie Sanders on free education and free health care, they're a Nazi and a communist. When it's like, yo, when it comes to the health care system and big education, they're going to screw you over whether you're a Republican or Democrat.

I don't think Tucker does that. I think Fox has – Not Tucker, but I think the majority... I think it's mostly the mainstream press. Why is it that Tucker is willing to have on Antifa? Why is it that... Tucker has Jimmy Dornan.

The Koch brothers and George Soros very much have the same... Well, Koch brothers. Sorry, RIP on the other Koch brother. It's establishment politics, man. It's a combo of that and i think a hormonal imbalance in in society due to obesity it's like the large 60 plus percent of americans are considered obese since like the late 90s it's like these they've people are under mind control they've become pawns to this system and they're like going at each other i never get more

fired up and ready to rip this thing down than when i'm fasting when i don't have enough when i come at this from lack i i get riled up i get the energy and that's what we're missing that's where punk rock is gone why so why why is antifa burning the system down they're well fed well that's a tough question there's a lot of different individuals but just on a real quick we a real quick tip that Richie brought on the Koch brothers, if you guys remember in 2015 when people would interview Bernie Sanders about his 2016 run, they would say, do you support open borders? Bernie Sanders would say, absolutely not.

Open borders is a big establishment move by the Koch brothers. The thing is, now he moved into a window, and I think Bernie doesn't believe it, but he just has to say it because he's on that side. Now he has to say, I wasn't for that, blah, blah, blah. But even Bernie said in his 2015 interviews, if we do open boards, it hurts American wages first. That's right. Well, how about we jump over to Super Chats and see what the audience has to say. So for all of you that are listening, make sure you smash that Like button.

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Christian Jamagotian says, Tim, I'm seeing videos about the Grind Bar and Compound all over YouTube. You're becoming DeerDeck 2.0 complete with your own fantasy factory in the mountains. Keep on being awesome, y'all. A bunch of videos are popping up about that. Yeah, I haven't seen it.

They're popping up. The Grand Bar. My friends, the vlog is live. It is Cast Castle. And you can find it very easily on this YouTube channel in the community section. I linked to it. I don't know if I said a URL or anything. I just made a YouTube channel.

Actually, I think it's a really old YouTube channel. I just call it Cast Castle and put a video on it because you just start somewhere. And that might not be the name moving forward. Probably not. I just, I was like, we filmed a vlog. We're going to put it up. This dude grinded the grind bar. The other day we filmed, we have a race car that was 100 miles an hour.

And we literally jumped the whole garage. It was awesome. How far did it go? Dude, it went so far. feet it went way over it's a big garage not a regular garage it's like a big garage in it and it just went multiple camera angles it's gonna be fun we're gonna get that up soon yeah that was awesome that was yesterday right dermy wormy says in regards to falcon and winter soldier you need to talk to g from NerdRotic. We will have a bonus segment coming up where I will get into all of that stuff because I have...

I think Falcon and Winter Soldier is actually nuanced and relatively anti-woke. I do. I think that Falcon is realizing the problems of racism from anybody. And I'll get into that. We'll save it for the bonus segment. Alright, Let's see

where we're at. Gorechild says, Tim, you should clarify. You said Maxine Waters might be caused to overturn the election, not the trial. Oh, is that what I did? First thing you said. Oh, really? We didn't want to interrupt you. You're on one. We didn't want to interrupt you. Oh, whoops.

You said it with so much conviction that there was no – I can't interrupt. Yeah. It's all good. I wonder if YouTube is going to understand I just misspoke. Hopefully. I think I can answer your question about why these Antifa kids are rioting even though they're not eating properly.

I don't think they are hormonally balanced because fasting, you got to eat healthy and then stop eating for 16 hours. And these people are probably like just eating crap maybe or and don't have a good home life so their psychology is all out of whack. Vitamin D. The home life. He knows what I'm talking about, man. Yeah, that's right. Alright, Sonny James says, Tim, I think you're exactly right about fifth generational

warfare in regards to foreign sponsored propaganda. However, I think you're totally wrong about the drone capture of Uyghur men taken to education camps. I saw men being drafted for the purpose of war. Interesting. Well, a lot of people, you don't really know what the video is. We just trust news sources. That's that video of like a bunch of people in blue. Yeah, with their heads shaved.

Bradley L5000 says, Tim, thanks for the Dogecoin tip. Made a little money. Guest suggestion, David Park and Jack Murphy, the other Jack from Teamhouse Podcast. There's another Jack Murphy? Uh-oh. I didn't realize there was more than one. We're both on at the same time.

Tomorrow is the day of the Doge. Jonathan Drown says, Tim, it's easy to run away when you have a million dollars to drop on a compound in the middle of nowhere. Ian is at right for once? I will just say nobody who buys a million dollar property actually has a million dollars. When they talk about celebrities who bought like a five million dollar property, they may have put zero down, zero percent down. And they may have gotten a crappy interest rate.

Everybody assumes that like I think Donald Trump put it best. When he tells that story where he like pointed to one of his kids and said, see that homeless guy, he's worth more than I am because Trump's liabilities were higher than his assets. So people need to understand that. And I will also add, I moved to Los Angeles from Chicago

with $200 cash and no plan. Yeah, this guy works hard. What he's trying to say is I started from the bottom, now I'm here. That's right. That's what I'm hearing. Tell him, Tim, you put the grind in. You came from the gutter. I started from the bottom, now I'm here. That's right. That's what I'm hearing. Tell him, Tim.

You put the grind in. You came from the gutter. You came from the trenches. New Jersey is definitely the gutter. I'll tell you that. Icos 8 says, take out the dumb Federal Reserve part, and you might have an interesting point, Ian. Oh, snap. Wait, I want to think back to that.

When you were talking about fighting the machine or whatever, you referenced the Federal Reserve for no reason. Oh, defaulting on the interest to the Federal Reserve. Yeah, Ian just came out straight swinging at the Federal Reserve. Poverty is a driving force of this, and I think the Federal Reserve is keeping us there with their interest rates. All right. With their interest in general.

Dale Lamar says, Yes, they are, Tim. Look what happened in Kenosha. The kid is now going through court for defending his community. Standing up gets you beaten or jailed. Two options. Let them loot.

I don't know. I'm not going can read that part. Yeah. Yeah, the options are very serious. Uh-oh. What's this? Kaiser C says, Ian, sun's getting real low, big guy. Come back to us, good sir.

Another news, will of the people was really good. I didn't get it. Gareth Green says, Tim and Ian are at it again. Sorry, I haven't posted for months. I was spending nearly as much on super Chats as I made per month. You both sound like collectivists, but I'm more with Tim. Death by starvation is the default for all living things. Yo, part of me really is with you on this.

Like, just let them suffer. I think about that a lot. Like, are humans a virus on this planet and we just got to let it eat itself out? Or should we stand up for these ignorant fools all right and help them survive human beings are a disease you know that from i am a gorilla you know the matrix oh yeah agent smith is there something to that or or do we do what's do we do we help these it's the smell like what do we do because if we give people unlimited food are they just going to eat themselves into starvation?

Like, are they going to just overpopulate and then wipe out the planet? Is starvation and death a natural survival mechanism for our species? I asked Alex Jones. What did he say? Well, because I said, look at the Great Reset stuff. What if it's true that we are like yeast in, you know, just eating the sugars and farting ourselves to death? Are we destined just to reach a point where we just eventually, you know, just

fart ourselves to death? Maybe we do need some kind of reset to kind of stop humans from just eating until we explode. Alex was like, you know, he's like, it's an important question because I think about this all the time. You know, how do you balance the fact that we may

be on a runaway train to destroy civilization as we know it with the same fact that you can't be an authoritarian wingnut manipulating, you know, people and stealing their rights? It's like, it's a tough question, man. The problem is I don't trust the people who tell me the world is ending and the oceans are rising and they buy beachfront property. That's like, oh, look, man, if you really want to convince me of all these problems, like we got to stop overpopulation because global warming, then you go and buy beachfront property? Kind of think you're lying to me about this. When you're going to take a private jet to Europe for a conference?

I'm not saying I think climate change isn't a real problem. I do think humans contribute to it. I just think they want to hold us down and exploit the wealth and riches for themselves. That was one of the best series that we did ever on the Daily Caller vid squad was Walls Across America. All these people are criticizing the walls. We went to their houses and filmed how massive the walls were

around their homes. We should do an update for Barry O and John Carey on their beachfront property. The sea level is what? Two feet there? We definitely got to reorganize the way people live so we don't starve and overpopulate. But can we do that with stupid or ignorant people lining the...

But why are people... You're saying stupid or ignorant. That's like a scapegoatism, right? They eat the wrong foods, and now they're just blind zombies. And the media that's intentionally making them sheep for money to make them cogs. But can you blame those people? I can't blame them, but the problem itself isn't necessarily the reason there's a problem,

but you still have to eradicate the problem often. Yeah, exactly. But the approach of eradicating the problem rather than going to the root and digging out the roots. But I think digging out the roots will kill the problem as well. So like what? Yeah. So how do we dig out the roots? My question.

Yeah. I don't know. Rather than you can like change. I don't know, man. This is, this is the same thing I go over. Like I want to help these people because that's my empathy,

but I'm also a realist. And if people are destroying themselves in the world with them, what's the value of keeping them? Don't you think like that? The ebbs and flows of the two-party system have a tendency to oscillate between chaos and order, the creative and the authoritarian. So everybody in the 1960s was like, oh, my God, these kids are going to be the death of us. And now those kids are boomers, right? And now those kids are freaking boomers.

So how did this system course correct? Well, I think like responsibility kicked in. Well, culture came around and politics is downstream of culture. Not to use that overwrought Breitbart quote, but it kind of is. And so Reagan was elected after Clint Eastwood became the, you know, the cool, strong alpha male, that archetype, that male archetype in the 1970s on the tail end of this. So I think what Donald Trump did was he kind of like just hijacked the entire political system. And before our culture was able to able to course correct back in that Clint Eastwood direction you know he basically hijacked it and now everyone's like

oh my god the whole thing's burning down because it's not a natural ebb and flow alright well let's read some more superchats because of the media Robert Yes says the world is going insane but at least I have my doge coin like a good doggo also I love the show use the superchat to buy the team some doge

full disclosure I bought a bunch of Doge. Get your shit together. Super Chatters, take me to Vegas on some Doge. See the New York Times on some Doge. I'll keep this kind of light because I don't like – I'm wary of the idea that a lot of people are watching. You mentioned you're buying something. I'll say this.

I've actually become fairly confident in Doge. That's all I can really say. So I bought some. Do tell. No, I'm not going to elaborate any further on that. All right. That's all I can really say. So I bought some. Do tell. No, I'm not going to elaborate any further on that. All right. Because I don't want to – I want to fully disclose I bought Doge. That's what I'm trying to do.

It's a cute dog. Super chatters. I think it's funny and I think humor is confidence. Send your boy Jorge to Vegas on some Doge. No comment, but I will definitely do something if Doge goes up. No, I'm just saying this. I think the joke is showing people have confidence. And confidence, it's bringing people together.

So I like it. I bought some. All right, let's see. Joshua Sanfilippo says, Police are cool and all, but where are the local private militias and armed private citizens standing to defend life, liberty, and property? I live in Florida, and I know what I'd be doing if the riots were happening down here.

Weren't there people doing that in Minnesota? Yeah, I was going to say well, in the Brooklyn Center, there was people that came out and defended businesses after the first night. So those folks did come out. They might not always get the media attention that they deserve, but they did come out. They did defend those businesses. Rittenhouse was kind of like

one of those people, right? Like a local militia and look how he got raked. It's not really militia, you know, people coming out. I guess you could argue, call it that. It doesn't have to be militia. It could even just be like, even small business owners just came out and defended their own little business. That's what I call a militia.

All right. This one's for you, Ian, from a fan with some criticism. Thank you. Sarkaden says, Ian, you're awesome, man. I love what you bring to the show, but I need you to work on knowing when you are derailing a conversation. I think I do know some. Like today, today i was like i am derailing right now come with me everyone he's like but what about graphene yeah can i make the federal reserve i was talking about aliens at one point that was great the frontal lobe flow state i want to go deeper

hey it's a good super chat dr deluna saysLuna says, YouTube is basically the Minneapolis of the video hosting platforms. It still makes money off those who choose to stay. When's the move to alt tech platform schedule? Timcast.com has been up and running for only a few months now, and we are actively working on producing new content on that platform exclusively, as well as some YouTube stuff, because we're not looking at, in my opinion, the same thing as we have a ride

about to erupt in our city and it's going to burn to the ground and you need to find a place to live. We're looking at a massive cultural shift with what YouTube does and what is important for a business. So I'll tell you this. YouTube has proven itself an unsafe place to do business. 100%. People who have dedicated their lives to following YouTube, or I'm sorry, their careers to following YouTube's rules, find themselves banned overnight for no reason without understanding why, or they get strikes and then they're accused of things. You look at, say, Steven Crowder. He's followed the rules.

He's gotten into it with YouTube. YouTube's tried taking him down. But what happens when you dedicate a decade to producing content for YouTube? YouTube says, here are the rules, so you got it. And then eventually they change the rules and arbitrarily enforce taking you down. YouTube is an unsafe place to run a business. So we're setting up TimCast.com, and we've repeatedly talked about creating an open source subscription service. So the issue is right now we're trying to build something new.

It's very exciting. Hit up Ian if you want to talk about this open source subscription service thing that we've been talking about. You can message me on Twitter. We have an element chat room where we've been hawking ideas. We actually have a meeting set up tomorrow around 2 p.m. Eastern Standard Time with a bunch of developers. And we're going to talk about the code that we're going to use to build this. You know what, though? You mentioning that, I think it's really encouraging to see the success of news businesses putting things behind a paywall because we created Daily Caller Patriots Only.

Small plug right there. But while we were traveling around the country to cover these riots, we found that, okay, Facebook picks up on the fact, oh, these guys are in Portland. Okay, Portland riots demonetized. So we can't monetize it on YouTube. We can't monetize it on youtube can't monetize it on facebook but what we can do is say hey patriots we're going to show you guys what's really happening on the ground if you subscribe subscribe to click and actually it's it's actually allowed us to to fund not only that content but content to show the rest of america what's going on and i want to just really quick

add richie is uh youtube has already this has been proven, they're hitting independent news channels or just news channels that they don't like, hitting them hard with algorithms, and you literally can't be seen. I mean, literally at our daily call, I think we have over 700,000 subscribers, and, I mean, they're just hitting us. I mean, our videos are so hitting. People always send me messages like, hey, we don't see anything on a daily caller. We subscribe. We have to subscribe again.

So it is a thing. It's already been proven. I know it started with Jordan Charlton at the Status Quo. He's actually a progressive on the left and a lot of progressives on the left, and I'll fight for them on the free speech thing. But a lot of news channels, independent media is getting hit by the algorithm. And a lot of these progressive left-wing channels, they covered the January 6th riots. They've sold footage to CNN and MSNBC, yet they'll get demonetized for the same footage. I just want to clarify.

I apologize. YouTube, I don't about anything that Jorge just said. Love you guys. And when you go to the Daily Callers videos, hit the like button because then you'll be way more likely to see it. But you probably won't. I love you. We got Dave Weisbrick. He says, Tim, bold of you to tell city people to stand up to rioters

regardless of the consequences when you ran away to the countryside due to last year's riots. I think I repeatedly told people to leave Minneapolis over and over again because I literally did. So, you see, people need to understand. I'm not arbitrarily being like, people need to do something. No, I literally was like, I'm not going to live in a place that can't protect me. So I left because I don't want to be supporting that. not going to live in a place that can't protect me. So I left.

Because I don't want to be supporting that. The people of Minneapolis could be doing that. They're not. They're staying there. The cops could be doing that. They're not. They're staying there. And then the system comes for them.

And Kim Potter gets thrown under the bus. And I'm like, what did you think was going to happen? Running around with all these rioters. And you think they're going. I said it over and over again. They're knocking on each door, going after people, and you're like,

I'm the one house. They'll skip. And sure enough, they make it to your house. So I left. And then what happened like a week after we leave, riots erupted in Philly.

They didn't cross the bridge that time. We were there. Come on, man. We were there. Tell them, Tim. You've been here since day one from the trenches. And I'm like...

Shout out to Eli. He got punched in the face. Come out to the middle of nowhere. You get to live your life. Man, y'all come in at Tim like he ain't been for the trenches. That's right. Ben Walker says, Meaning and purpose are a person's best defense against ideologies of any kind.

Highly recommend Viktor Frankl's Man's Searching for a Meeting. The concept of an existential vacuum helps with understanding the position many of these people are in. Good super chat. Good super chat. Wimplo says, Remember when bad religion used to be punk? Good super chat. Iimplo says, remember when bad religion used to be punk? Good super chat. I like that. Bad religion.

Did you guys notice the shout out I did to bad religion earlier? Yes. When I said maybe his dad's a lazy middle class intellectual. Mom's on value and so ineffectual. Thank you. I'm going to do what you tell me. Thank you. I'm going to do what you tell me. No, F you. You better do what they tell you. That's way worse. You're right. I don't know. I'm going to do what you tell me. Thank you. I'm going to do what you tell me. No, F you.

You better do what they tell you. Yeah, that's way worse. You're right. I don't know. I like to play one. I don't know. Let's see. Eric Miller.

If all cops are bad, then all BLM are rioters. I support neither, but if BLM, the organization, doesn't want violence, then they have the money to hire private security to control the marchers, but they don't. Did you hear the squad hired a bunch of private security? I love it. Shout out to Henry Rogers. He actually put out an exclusive report with going through all the expenses of the private security.

So we got a super chat from Sword and Scale. Many of you may be familiar. Sword and Scale is a really popular, I think, was it a true crime podcast? Yes. True crime. How bad do you think it will get this week? How many cities burned? How many businesses destroyed?

How many lives lost? Thank you for everything you do, Tim. Cheers. Cheers, cheers. Well, quick prediction. Like I think I mentioned already in the show, I think no matter what happens, we're going to see some chaos erupt. I don't see it reaching the magnitude that it did,

but I think we're going to see some things go down this week. I don't even want to think about it. I don't know, man. I kind of think it'll be worse. I don this week. I don't even want to think about it. I don't know, man. I kind of think it'll be worse. I don't know. I don't want to think about that. What's up? I don't even want to think about that.

Word. Honestly. She's like, let me tune out. Yeah. Rusty Quarters says, Hey, Tim and Ian, what are your favorite commanders for Magic the Gathering? Urza.

Oh, sorry to interrupt. I'm convinced you can use someone's favorite like a political compass. For instance, everyone who chooses Kalia is Hitler. Keep it up, by the way. My favorite commander is not Urza. I know. Urza's OP. I know.

I know, right, Urza? It's the worst. It's just too dumb. It's too dumb. I get it. You have 50 mana on turn four. It's so busted. I had to take like five cards out of the deck because it was too powerful.

My favorite, Narset. Yeah, you know all about it. Totally. Who? Narset? Of course. The OG Narset. OG Narset.

That was the one you had when I met you. The deck I built is pure global chaos and control. That's really fun. That deck is fun to play against. The games end up lasting four hours and everyone's just confused as to what the rules are. Tim goes nuts. He just starts laughing. He's like, ah, he doesn't even care if he wins.

He's just like throwing chaos on the board. He's like, ah, he doesn't even care if he wins. He's just like throwing chaos on the board. He's like, ah, ah, ah, ah. I basically lose. So I'll use cards like Grip of Chaos. All targets are random. It's really funny. And so all of a sudden, everyone's plans are just thrown to the wind, and I'm sitting there laughing.

And then eventually, everyone's like, we have to stop Tim. The way I view it is kind of like everyone's in quicksand trying to get to me to stop me from making the quicksand. In space. So it's like three-dimensional. It's all around you. Remember what we were talking about earlier about everybody being LARPers? Like, that's what you guys are.

Ring a bell. But we don't really play all that much anymore, to be honest. Not lately, but I would like to. We did recently have an idea for a board game. Maybe it exists, but the idea is that the game would be an orbital space station doing experiments with antimatter, explodes, or the reactor detonates, and then freezing, creating a rift where there's two dimensions overlaid on each other, and you can sort of see both. That's fun.

And so the board game would actually be three-dimensional with magnets where each character, you know, like Clue, there's like, you know, Mr. Plum or whatever, Professor Plum. There would actually be two John Smiths, two Jane Does,

but there's like Universe A and Universe B. And then certain universes have certain components. So like, that was kind of a general idea we had for a board game we wanted to make. But they can't come into contact

because they'll annihilate each other like the anti-particle so yeah like two two people two of the same characters can't be in the same place at the same time it's just you know but then like an electrical conduit will be shifted into universe a and then to open a door universe a has to hit the switch to open the door in universe b so it would be a game where there would be like components that move around so basically like what we're talking about you guys being larping nerds earlier. That's when you get LARPier, yeah. Oh, yeah, it gets crazier.

Yeah, yeah, definitely. Pretty much, yeah. There we go. Let's see. Lord of Nazgoth says, Tim, the problem in this country is folks like your buddy Ian. Whoa. Yeah. They are all too happy to lose themselves in a web of moral relativism and conspiracy.

I'm not happy about it, but the philosophy the philosophy is dangerous, dark and must be done. Dingus Malingus says, Tim, I live in Minneapolis. Our mayoral and city council election is coming in November. Both the state AG and Hennepin County attorney elections were in 18 and up again in 22. Voters may have also thought Orange Man bad made people freak out more. You had a president who was like, the riots have to stop! And you had a president who was like, my staff, come on, man, they're donating to this.

And Kamala Harris was like, give me money to get the rioters out! And people were like, I'm gonna vote for the lady who wants the rioters to be out of jail. Sorry, man. I don't know what to tell you. But I hear you on the mayoral stuff, yeah, for sure. We'll see. Dude, in Minneapolis, A.G., Keith Ellison's very left wing.

He's like an Antifa sympathizer. Oh, Keith Ellison? No. So, hey, if you voted Keith Ellison in, you got to deal with that because he's an Antifa sympathizer. All right. Joe Sullivan says, Floyd case is a reasonable doubt versus doubt issue. Just because there is doubt doesn't necessarily mean it's reasonable. Let's face the truth.

They will come for Chauvin in the jails or the street. Verdict is irrelevant for him, just like Floyd. You ain't wrong, brother. I don't think anyone's, yeah, arguing with that. I don't think you're wrong, brother. These superchats is really fire tonight. This guy's is on point. Danine S.

Not asking for myself, but at some point, would you consider internships? You want people who already know how to do stuff, but they have to learn somewhere. Also, I'd rather future journalists learn from you than from the current college system. We are already considering internships. That's great. That's dope. Yeah, but I won't take interns that actually do core functions.

I'm not about that. I think anybody who's going to be doing kind of like a menial task is going to be getting paid. All right. If you're an intern and you don't want to do a menial task and not get paid for it, Richie at DailyCaller.com. Email me.

I will give you, you'll learn everything but you will not, you'll get a sandwich a week. So I'm thinking, and school credit, we might have a couple interns whose job is to literally

just hang out and like a literal internship. Like actually hang out, learn, see how the business operates. Internships are typically like minimum wage jobs where they just don't pay you. They're like we want you to do stuff and we're not going to pay you. I don't want to do that.

Now we can have some interns. You got to skate. You got to play music. You got to hang out. Yeah, my internship was a little bit different. My internship is going to be way worse. Yeah. That's correct about what the internship entails.

I need my socks cleaned. But I will say this though. For those who are looking for internships or they might be in high school or college and are looking into journalism, actually watch Tim Pool back in Vice. When I was in high school, I watched Tim Pool back in Vice. I actually wouldn't even be on the front line. And then you DM me and I gave you a job for one sandwich a week. You just have to get tear gassed every week.

No, no, no. I need two tacos. I don't know if you're allowed to do that, but I guess you are because you're Mexican. No, no, no. I need two tacos, kind of Santa, for a week. Two tacos. I don't know if you're allowed to do that, but I guess you are because you're Mexican. If I feel no right, I don't get paid.

Are we allowed to laugh at that? Yes, we are. No, we all have to be stone-faced and only you can laugh. Only Jorge can laugh at it. No comment. Never. Never a summer, 160 said, here's $5, get Ian a Snickers.

Matt Volker says that's called being angry, Ian. Somebody get this man a Snickers. Never get more mad than when I'm sad. Snickers are $5 now? Ian, you were lit tonight, bro. I'm serious. When I go fasting, I'm just talking about punk. We need to bring punk rock to the main.

We need to confront. Ian just had Federal Reserve on his mind and was like, I'm just talking about punk. We need to bring punk rock to the main. We need to confront. Ian just had Federal Reserve on his mind and was like, I'm going to use it. Guys, guys, guys, I got to read this. Okay.

J. Mill says, the guest with the point break shirt on looks like an attempt to create an intelligent version of Matthew McConaughey's character from Dazed and Confused. Yes. All right, all right, all right.

Yes. That was Richie. These super chats are fucking great. You got to join. Be a lot cooler if you did what have you done you were right all right justin says tim and ian any interest in a maker community as part of timcast allow makers to collab on projects with like-minded people oh no echo chamber i do woodworking coding and i'm a cloud engineer i want community to make things with y'all uh should we

build a building for a hackerspace yeah we, we do need a building off-site. That's what we would need. And then you have to be part of the vlog. We could expand the venue, the grind bar. I want another property. Just grind all the way to a maker space that people can commute to and from. Yeah, maybe we get a commercial building for

R&D. Or build something. We need a piece of property. You're going to be like Tony Stark. You can go underground. In a garage. There's a lot more people with a lot more money who are doing fun stuff like jetpacks. You'd be like the Tony Stark of Airsoft.

It's really about funding. That was all Luke's thing. Luke was the one who wanted to play Airsoft. We have a lot of people that want to come and a lot of potential space to get, but we need the funding. I mean, so we don't, I mean, it would help.

That's not the issue. So sign up at timcast.com. You know what would help? Graphene. I say funding isn't the issue because I'm not going to let investors come in and derail anything. No, direct funding to timcast.com

is the best thing you can do is help fund the organization grassroots. And yeah, we should so you should buy maker space four million dollar homes we can build graphing bro we got a production facility we're gonna be hiring news editors and writers i've been saying over and over again i'm not gonna be buying infinity pools or doing dumb things like we're gonna be making content building culture and funding tv shows and movies and trying to like you look at this like woke movie system and comics and games like, no, we're just going to fund things we like.

Here's what I say. You want to make a woke movie? By all means. I got no beef. You make a product. You do your thing. I don't like it. I'm not going to buy it.

Hey, I know. I'll make my own movie that I do like. And then if people like that, they can buy it. So I'll tell you this. If I had a choice, like people sign up for TimCast.com and money comes in if I had a choice between buying an infinity pool or buying the labor

that creates awesome articles I would rather give someone a job and by the way the cost for that labor in order to produce that video

or that article is cheaper now than it ever has been previously in human history I mean this is like the printing press 2.0 like people don't realize

oh our speech is getting censored, all this stuff. It's still the internet. You can still create your own platform. I would rather hire someone to go report on the ground like you guys do than own an infinity pool or something like that. Hell yeah. Because I'll tell you this. You're at a party.

Everyone's drinking. Everyone's bragging. What's better? Look at my pool or look at this award-winning journalism that's changing the world i i gotta please you know we don't get no awards let me tell you about that you know what i mean you know we ain't getting no award please tell us something you believe convinced him to get the pool please you guys start super chatting him tell him to get a pool he's been saying we need a hot tub i think if we can soak in the water it will make us more creative and it will give us exercise, healthy brain.

And I want to point out, Richie brought up graphene. I did. And he's right about that. I like the way Ian thinks about it. Thank you. Thank you. Alright, let's see. I want to go swimming in the pool. Yes!

I want to go swimming in Tim's pool. But I have to clean it first. I want to participate, but I don't want to get canceled. Just a couple more Super Chats. Kathy Mac says, how are we to survive as a country with no family values, sense of community, or a higher power, like after death?

We are now a country that only values and encourages self-interest. We may be doomed by this path. I agree. This is what I'm trying to talk about. No, it's true. Kathy, I'm trying. It's not even about necessarily, in my opinion, a belief in belief in higher power it's a belief in each other do we care about our community to where when we hear that china is attacking us we need to defend ourselves no the people in this country are split into political sectarianism part of what bothered me about trump and i don't hate him but is that he always he tended to talk about being the best and being

the one like i'm the best i'm the best and being the one, like, I'm the best, I'm the best. And I find that a team and supporting your friends is, like, so key. If you can be part of a community where people around you become better and stronger. I don't think that's the problem, though. I feel like Trump was actually more like, we are the best. Like, this country is the best. We're the alphas. I don't know.

I think the problem is it's, like, digital versus reality, which is, know, the younger you are right now, the more important your digital identity is. Right. Like as compared to your actual identity. So whether or not your team player, you're me or you're awesome here, it's a matter of whether or not you're awesome. Like, are you awesome in real life? IRL or are you awesome on the Internet? And like what matters more now is that you're awesome on the internet so it's like I don't know I coach these kids and they're all they they're all trying to like stay on their phones and like maintain all these digital relationships and we're sitting at the table I'm like dude you're with all the hockey boys like why aren't we chilling right now

why is everybody snapchatting a corner one of their eyes to six different curls you coach hockey you coach hockey yeah oh that's's fun. You coach hockey? Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, the hockey boys. Yeah, so stuff like that. Shout out to the hockey boys. G-Town puck.

All right, let's see. That's awesome. Maciz Mojo. Mac is Mojo. Mac is Mojo. Tim, you need to buy an infinity pool hot tub for the chickens. Maybe we do build a little tiny... They would love that. Tim, I think he means

chickens, but for a cold water for something else. For us. That's what he meant. I don't think the chickens would like the hot tub. So they're babies and they're learning how to do dirt baths and it's the funniest thing ever because they don't know what they're doing and they're trying. You know what a dirt bath is?

The chickens dig little dirt holes and then they start throwing dirt over themselves and wiggle around. But they're doing and they're trying. You know what a dirt bath is? Chickens dig little dirt holes and then they start throwing dirt over themselves and wiggle around. But they're still really young so they're doing it wrong and they're just laying and flopping around. I thought a dirt bath was like when Sal puts a dirt nap. I used to think the infinity

pool was a pool with a waterfall that constantly went for infinity that never stopped. But then I looked it up and I saw it was when it goes off to the horizon and you can't tell where it ends. Could we get Ian an infinity dirt bath instead of this? I will. Will infinity dirt bath for food.

A 50-gallon bin full of dirt. There you go, you communist. You get a dirt bath. Last one. We got Sword and Scale. He says, Be careful, Tim. We all know what happened to every headquarters Tony Stark ever made. Investing in America right now now is dangerous maybe just buy more doge now i'm i'm investing in um fun stuff that's inspirational i want people to you know feel like they can accomplish things and judge people on the content of their character the color of their skin you know what i mean what happened to tony stark's headquarters they all blow up like super villains

well like they blow up yeah bad guys blow them up no but that's important like what you're building is actually it's completely different from like any other kind of commodity that you're providing which is like it's the proof is only in the pudding of like what you put out on the internet in video you know or on in print it's not like quantifiable you know built this building you know it's important you know it's weird to me is there's so many people who are very rich off of doing commentary and they, they just like their accomplishment is the fact that they're rich. Yeah.

They just have their show. And I'm like, why don't you guys let your millionaires, you know, like hire a bunch of people to make more of this. They don't. Plus it's so the dollar per minute of video now is so cheap that the network that you can build with just a little something

that even a semblance of an attempt to be independent now sets you aside from the rest. I think that the reason they don't is because it's challenging to build a team. It comes, you really. Yeah. Quality control. And personalities and managing personalities. That's for damn sure. It requires a lot of listening.

Yeah, man. Well, that being said, a lot of listening Yeah man Well that being said A lot of listening is required over at TimCast.com Because an exclusive segment is coming up For our members only In just a little bit so make sure you go to TimCast.com Become a member smash the like button On this video subscribe

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