Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL#1094 RFK TO ENDORSE TRUMP, Will Drop Out Friday, Expected To JOIN TRUMP In AZ w/Paul Dans

Episode Date: August 22, 2024

Tim, Ian, & Libby are joined by Paul Dans to discuss RFK Jr expected to drop out & endorse Trump as soon as Friday, Trump leaving the protection of bulletproof glass to check on a woman who fainted at... his rally, the Biden administration caught lying about jobs numbers by over 800k, and Rolling Stone saying Democrats will win rural voters because they saw Kamala's daughter with a camo hat on. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Raymond @raymondgstanley (X) Guest: Paul Dans @PaulDansUSA (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:34 But now the reporting says that sources working with the RFK Jr., it's seemingly confirmed RFK is going to be dropping out of the race on Friday to endorse Donald Trump. Now, again, it's still a bit speculative. So we'll we'll we'll see exactly how this develops. But apparently RFK Jr. is going to be in Arizona to address his supporters. And so is Donald Trump. So the expectation is that RFK Jr. is going to appear with Donald Trump at a rally to formally endorse him for president. This could be huge. We're talking a couple of points, a huge bump. So we'll talk about that. And that's pretty big. In aggregate, all the betting markets are now showing both Trump and Kamala are tied. And PolyMarket has Trump actually up. So this is interesting. And new data coming out for ballot requests. Mail-in ballot requests are down among Democrats dramatically in certain swing states. So it's looking pretty good for Donald Trump right now.
Starting point is 00:02:38 We'll see. DNC Night 3 is currently underway. So there will probably be some developments while we do this show. Before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com, buy Cast Brew Coffee. It's good coffee. Appalachian Nights, of course, is everybody's favorite. But hold on, man. You got to buy it. We got all the different flavors. We got Rise with Roberto Jr., Stand Your Grounds, and Mr. Bocas Pumpkin Spice Experience while supplies last. I don't know how many we have. We have 337 left, and once they are gone, they are gone forever. So maybe you buy the last of the Mr. Bocas Pumpkin Spice Experience,
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Starting point is 00:04:01 Great to be with you, Tim and crew. I'm excited to be back. Who are you? What do you do? Well I was the creator of Project 2025. You may have heard a little bit about it in the news. I am a lawyer by training, New York refugee, 25 years in the big city. Happy to be potted down in South Carolina now but really diehard Trump guy at base. You know, I'm excited with this RFK announcement. This is great news. I do think we have to do some serious retooling of the campaign, though, to get on track.
Starting point is 00:04:36 We got a serious 80 days in front of us. Right on. Well, it should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. We got Ian hanging out. Hi, everyone. Thanks, Tim. And yeah, I checked out, you're talking about organization and how people in the Republican Party, at least the
Starting point is 00:04:47 criticisms I've been getting, is that they lack organization. So the Project 2025 is like an actual stab at organizing, like a legitimate organizational tool. It's cool. It got a lot of bad media coverage. So I'm glad you're here to kind of talk about it and explain it. Libby is here as well. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I'm Libby Emmons. I'm with the Postmillennial. Glad to be here. And Raymond G. Stanley Jr. is back. Heyby is here as well. I'm here. I'm Libby Emmons. I'm with the Postmillennial. Glad to be here. And Raymond G. Stanley Jr. is back. Hey, friends. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. I am a facilities maintenance here at Timcast. And if you have the power of graphene, you can manifest me coming on the show like you did last night.
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Starting point is 00:05:26 They know what's up. All right. All right. That was clever. Very clever. All right. Well, let's jump into the show. We got the story here from the post-millennial.
Starting point is 00:05:34 RFK Jr. to drop out of presidential race by Friday and endorse Trump. The news comes as Kennedy is scheduled to host an event in Phoenix, Arizona, on Friday afternoon to address the current historical moment and his path. And we don't normally do this, but a super chat just came in from Paul Taskalos, who says, Nicole Shanahan just said in an interview with Dr. Drew, they'll be making one of the biggest announcements in American political history on Friday. Oh, boy, I'm excited. It's exciting. Trump's going to be in Phoenix on Friday as well. It seems like it's all trump's going to be in phoenix on friday as well it seems like uh it's all lining up and rfk has not announced where he's going to be making his announcement i think it's going to
Starting point is 00:06:11 be on stage with trump yeah well that's sort of you know what i'm indicating here that's what i'm hoping for yeah does this i think that would be i i kind of feel and then uh so we do this other story too because yesterday we heard they were considering it. And that was big news. Trump was asked about it and he says he would consider appointing RFK Jr. to a role in his administration. And everyone's saying head of Health and Human Services or head of the CIA. The CIA would be poetic justice. Yeah, because the CIA like killed his uncle. Sure, and his dad.
Starting point is 00:06:41 But HHS might be the more appropriate position for him. I kind of feel like this is Trump learning from his mistakes. But HHS might be the more appropriate position for him. I kind of feel like this is Trump learning from his mistakes. He must do this. I was saying back in 2020 that if Trump appointed Tulsi Gabbard to a national security position of some sort, advisor, he would have won if he had brought in Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard. I know a lot of people say, oh, Andrew Yang, he's a lefty. He wants UBI. I'm like, the point is you grab a huge percentage of voters by saying you will bring them in as advisors. If he brings an RFK Jr. and says he will be in my administration, he's going to jump, what, five points? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Ian then votes for him. This is Trump being Trump, which is the good news. Maybe the campaign's letting him go back to the original Trump. I can't tell you how many MAGA people that I work with, really the hardcore, the most based, who are huge RFK Jr. fans. And they kind of always were kind of talking about it. But remember, RFK Jr. went and interviewed for a job in 2016 at Trump Tower. So, you know, their relationship goes back years.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And, you know, obviously there's a lot that doesn't, you know, some of his positions aren't square with kind of America first, traditional America first, but certainly there's no one better, I think, in the entire country to take on the administrative state, particularly HHS. So you see in our movement, so many medical freedom people. You count me right in with that group. And just the excitement to have somebody either of his caliber at HHS or CDC, FDA, or, of course, going to really clear house at the agency. The pharmaceutical lobby is legit, like so powerful. They've got 1,800 lobbyists, I think, and there's only 550 people in Congress. So like, it's like a three to one ratio. And I think it's just the pharmaceuticals. Is that lobby, all lobbyists? Or is that just the pharma lobby? I don't know. I mean, that's a lot of,
Starting point is 00:08:32 but there's a lot of pharmaceutical stuff. And every time I hear Joe Biden say, you know, we took on the pharmaceuticals companies and we beat them. I'm like, you paid them billions of dollars for vaccines that nobody wanted. We do have this clip that I just pulled this up. Let's play this clip from Ask Dr. Drew. Let me ask one direct question. Yeah. Should we have our ear to the ground? Is something going to come soon?
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah, absolutely. I think that Friday is going to be one of the biggest events in American election history. What time? Where should I tune in? The details will be shared. Where? Go to Bobby's ex-account and Team Kennedy will be releasing
Starting point is 00:09:14 a press release as well. Okay, you heard that. So let's all... Let me ask Jim... I wonder when. I wonder when. Let me actually pull up the... Let's see if we can get the current polling
Starting point is 00:09:23 where... Let's see where we're currently the current polling where, let's see where we're currently at. So we've got the latest polls here, 538. And let's see what we got. Right now, Kennedy, YouGov has him at 3%. We've got Big Village with Kennedy at 5%. That's
Starting point is 00:09:40 huge. We have another YouGov poll that has Kennedy at 2%. Interesting. Redfield and Wilton Strategies has Kennedy at 3Gov poll that has Kennedy at 2%. Interesting. Redfield and Wilton Strategies has Kennedy at 3%. Outward Intelligence has Kennedy at 7%. So I think it's fair to say it's around a 5% point. It's currently where he's sitting at. It's down from where he was. I'm wondering if he will get every single one of his supporters,
Starting point is 00:10:01 those who say they're voting for RFK, how many of them will actually vote for Trump? 90%. You think so? Yeah. That's a high number. Are you going to? Oh, yeah. I don't need to disclose who I'm voting for.
Starting point is 00:10:12 You see, come on. I really align with those guys compared to, like, the other Kamala Harris. Ian said yesterday if RFK Jr. endorsed Trump, that's the only way he ended up voting for Trump. I spent last night in the sauna thinking about like secret ballots and the whole reason that we have secret ballots in the United States so you don't have to implicate yourself to your friends and neighbors so you don't get lynched
Starting point is 00:10:32 you know by stupid mobs and stuff so I don't feel like compelled to talk about it. When Ian walks out of the room stick a I voted Trump sticker on his back. Dude, now before we really get into this I watched the Theo Vaughn interview with Trump. Highly, highly recommend one hour back. Dude, now before we really get into this, I watched the Theo Vaughn interview with Trump. Highly, highly recommend.
Starting point is 00:10:46 One hour interview. Excellent. Hilarious. And Theo just kept pressing him on the lobbies. And you could tell Trump was like, oh, God, I don't want to talk about this. But I will. And acknowledging that the lawyer lobby is the most powerful lobby in the country. And the pharmaceutical lobby is insanely powerful.
Starting point is 00:10:59 The lawyer lobby? The lawyer lobby. Trump kept saying that's the most powerful lobby. What is that? It's like lawfare. It's this guy right here. No, I've been against them, actually. You know, in the main, they talk about plaintiff lawyers.
Starting point is 00:11:12 In traditional, obviously, the big plaintiff lawyers. But now you have to say it's a lot of the big corporate, too. With the AMLA 100, the largest law firms in the u.s is what we call big law but um it's one of the most um not only do they all net over 100 million dollars up to the billions really these firms but they highly regiment on the thinking of the very tiers of corporate society so um a lot of this, the real way people think in terms of DEI, all this is- That's the lawyer lobby? Yeah, it's built out of the lawyer lobby and then infused through the entire corporate.
Starting point is 00:11:58 How long have they had power and control? You know, the thing with the lawyers is that it used to always be a percentage of a corporate deal right so in in these big mergers and acquisitions they put off the transaction cost maybe two percent so um as these as we had a big inflation in the economy that two percent became bigger bigger you're having two billion dollar mergers now so you take two percent of that and you slide that off to the lawyers. So it's no longer, it's arguably a small transaction price, but a lot to go to lawyers. So I think it really took off in the 90s, 80s and 90s. Lawyering as a profession was really
Starting point is 00:12:39 kind of a profession, literally that, but it became a business. Right. And they chart that actually with the American lawyer when they started talking about the profits per partner. And that's where they started angling for higher and higher profits. One of the things Trump kept mentioning is that the litigation law fair is like if you sue and you lose, you don't have to pay the costs of the person you're suing. But in Europe, you do., you don't have to pay the costs of the person you're suing. But in Europe, you do. So they don't sue.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Because if they sue and they don't win, they have to pay for it all. But in America, because of the lobby, it's not how it works. So they're incentivized to sue. No, it's another suit. So if someone sues you and they lose, you can then file to have them pay and you might lose. Yep. And more lawyers make more money in the refiling and all that. But if you win that, so basically if someone sues you on totally bunk reasons, and correct me if I'm wrong, you're the lawyer, right?
Starting point is 00:13:33 If someone sues you for what is clearly bunk, you can basically file to have them pay your legal fees. Yeah, okay, this is what's called the English rule, which is a fee shifting. Sometimes in contracts you'll see a fee shifting. If there's a dispute clause, they'll say that the loser is going to pay the prevailing party's fees. But in England, like you're right, that is the general law without putting it in the actual contract. Here, this grows up because in the old days, plaintiff lawyers would be the only ones who could sue, right? The wealthy't, the wealthy lawyers would get together and decide to sue.
Starting point is 00:14:07 To sue costs a lot of money. You have to front the money. Over time though, we've had this development in what they call litigation finance, which is allowing people, investors, to support the litigation freight at the beginning of the litigation. So now you have a wealthy company defending defending but now you have a wealthy plaintiff
Starting point is 00:14:29 Who's getting his or her money from from a banker? So with the advent of litigation funding, it's kind of lessened the need for this fee shifting Myself personally, I kind of still prefer the American rule That it does lower the level of litigiousness in the society, but I am in favor. And what is that, that you pay your own bills? That you pay your own bills, but because, you know, there's still all this other aspects with bringing suit, but right now there's no question that I think the, the, um, the complex nature of litigation is stacked in favor of large corporations and less so more plaintiffs. So, yeah, I'm just not, you know, it's,
Starting point is 00:15:14 it's difficult right now to say, but the bottom line is the lawyer class as a whole is very liberal and very wealthy and conservatives have been systematically cut out of these big firms. Yeah, I like the idea of RFK bringing in, I'm sorry, RFK joining Trump, and then maybe Trump might go Tulsi Gabbard. I like the idea. Some of the big mega fans
Starting point is 00:15:35 might not be really happy about that, but I like the idea of a bigger tent, a bigger force. If we're really going to go stop the Democrats and these communists, we need more people. The Trump fans are going to cheer for whatever Trump says. If Trump, you know, so as we already heard, he was asked a question, would you bring him in the administration? He says, I've never been asked something like that, but probably. Yeah, I like the guy. And so you're
Starting point is 00:15:56 instantly going to have not now you're going to see Trump's diehards being like, oh, what a genius. Oh, that was always the good idea, even though Trump himself was calling RFK nuts and Trump surrogates were calling RFK nuts not that long ago. And now I do find this funny. Trump put out a statement a while ago, several months ago, where he's like, RFK could be worse than Biden. We don't like the guy. He's not very good. And now he's like, I've always liked him. And, you know, yeah, I probably got a place for him. But but I don't really care about that. That's politics. when when the primary happens everybody's cutthroat and then they say okay okay you win you win let's let's come back together
Starting point is 00:16:30 you know there's a lot of people who will never like nikki haley but she's got she's behind donald trump and so no one like now it's like no one's attacking nikki haley anymore because she's not in the position to attack trump and push ideas we don't like like she's pro-war or whatever and so we're just like, yeah, sure. Okay, fine. Trump called Ted Cruz lying Ted. Lying Ted. That's what he called him.
Starting point is 00:16:50 And then as soon as the primary was over and Ted Cruz got behind Trump, his fans called him lying like roar, like lying Ted. They were lying. There you go. Well, and now Ted Cruz is very pro-Trump. Yeah. He talks about it on his podcast all the time. He's like very in favor.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I think there's something impressive about a leader that's willing to surround himself closely with people that he disagrees with and that disagree with him. And so there's a constant pushback because that's resistance is like the inception of growth. You need people that are going to tell you when they think you're wrong. And I'm really excited. One of the things I like about Trump in his 78 years old, the Democrats, of course, trying to go like he's too old to be president. I'm like, well, Joe Biden was stumbling, bumbling Joe. He's had serious
Starting point is 00:17:33 problems with communicating and muttering and his teeth falling out. Trump doesn't seem to have those problems. But there is a benefit to an old candidate who is still with it. Donald Trump is very with it. He's sharp. He's quick-witted. He's funny. And he doesn't care. Yeah. That's the benefit of someone in this position. Now, don't get me wrong. I would prefer it if we didn't have all of these old people, just everybody's 80, everybody's 65 and up. It's like, come on, we need some young people here. But at least I'll say this. Trump is pretty good. He's he's with it. And I do respect that he's at that point where he's just like, I don't care. Like, shut up. Been there, done that,
Starting point is 00:18:11 seen it, whatever. We're over it. You know, that that that reporter yelled at him when he was in where was he in Howell or whatever, Michigan, Michigan. That was a great that was a great moment. And this is exactly what I'm talking about. She's like Kamala Harris attacked you for coming here because the town is associated with white supremacy. And he goes, excuse me, excuse me, who is here in 2021? And she goes, Joe Biden, thank you. And then he just walks away, just walks away from the mic. And I'm like, that's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:18:33 That's the I'm done with this. Doesn't seem like he's trying to impress anybody right now. He's just doing what he wants to do. Good. I like it. Good. I appreciate it. He doesn't need to impress people.
Starting point is 00:18:42 He won the base. Well, he does just at least need to convince people and be as convincing as possible. And the Theo Vaughn interview was interesting because I saw some commentary where, so he was in, where was he, Asheville today? North Carolina? Oh, yeah, he was in North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:19:00 And a woman fainted. Yeah, and he stepped out from behind the bullet. We should pull that up. That's really nice. We should pull that up. We should pull that up. Do you guys have that on Post Millennial? Yeah, we have it. I'm going to pull that one up. We're just talking about it on Vaughn's interview. That's wild about people having heart attacks at the Muhammad Ali
Starting point is 00:19:14 fight. And he stepped out and he eschewed his own protection to see how this woman was doing. We're going to pull it up. We got the story here. He's pretty much just a real guy. Here we go. Here's the story from the Post Millennial. Breaking. President Trump leaves protection of bulletproof glass to check on women suffering health emergency at North Carolina rally. The president was met with cheers from the crowd as he walked off the stage in what individuals described in social media as a great act of bravery and humility. He hugged the woman.
Starting point is 00:19:39 You had this and then you had the Theo Vaughn interview. And the commentary that I'm hearing is that advisors told Trump someone did. You've got to soften on the edges and show some humility. You've got to show empathy and compassion and not be so angry all the time. And so with the Theo Vaughn interview, he's calm, relaxed, down to earth, talking about these issues like he's a dude hanging out with you. And then you have this moment where he walks out of the bulletproof glass, which is brilliant in so many ways. It's a great opportunity for him, reminding people of the assassination attempt on his life, showing that he's not going to be held back by it, and then showing empathy for a
Starting point is 00:20:17 woman. So I think he knows what he's doing. And I think this is a tremendous improvement for his campaign. So this is, I think, overall, just great news and smart strategy. I'm nervous about the stepping out behind the bulletproof glass. Oh, yeah. I don't know if I want that from my military commander right now. We need him safe.
Starting point is 00:20:36 This was also his first outdoor rally since Butler. But this is Trump. This is intuitive Trump. This is ultimately Trump being Trump. Yeah. And I think that's a mark change. Even last week, we we had Corey Lewandowski come on onto the campaign and you can already see the effects. Yep. Smart move. This is this is the OG of the OGs. Right. He is the original gangster. He's the number one Trump employee, the first guy Trump ever hired. So we have Corey to thank for President Trump employee the first guy Trump ever hired so we have Corey to
Starting point is 00:21:06 thank for President Trump in the first place really but you know what his book is essentially is let Trump be Trump and if you knew Trump like I lived in New York for 20 years my whole family's from New York this is what this guy does like he he would write anonymous checks to well not anonymous checks but send off checks anonymously to people he'd read about in the newspapers and always kind of be like checking in on people. You listen to so many stories about people he personally meets and then just stays with them. Like even like a Bob Craft, he's like calling the guy continuously. But, you know, that's the nature of the man. Take a look at this tweet from Newsweek, which is getting everybody all riled up.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Donald Trump suddenly stops rally and asks for, quote, a doctor, please. I was wondering how they're going to twist this. Yeah. Isn't that amazing? Is it Newsweek? Newsweek seems a little schizophrenic. Sometimes they're like in favor of Trump and sometimes they have this ridiculous spin. This is not a negative story.
Starting point is 00:22:04 This is this is schizophrenic clickbait. Yeah, it's weird. OK, Donald Trump stopped his rally and asked for a doctor because a woman fainted and he walked out to help her. But they're trying to trick people. They want to trick people into thinking Trump collapsed and said, oh, my heart. They're lying. But anyway, after we now that we've roasted Newsweek, here's a story from Newsweek weapons found at Donald Trump Ashboro rally. Person arrested. So is Ashboro, North Carolina? Did I get the city wrong?
Starting point is 00:22:31 Ashboro, North Carolina. I said Asheville. It was wrong. It was weapons were found there, and apparently somebody was arrested. Police arrested a man at the rally location at 4.30 p.m. after Trump and his running mate, J.D. Vance, had already rapped. And there have been no reports of injuries. Okay. I mean, that woman fainted. I guess she running mate, J.D. Vance, had already rapped. And there have been no reports of injuries. Okay, I mean, that woman fainted. I guess she's okay, though.
Starting point is 00:22:48 But look, I mean, this is crazy that Donald Trump, he steps out from behind his glass to check on some woman. Here's my fear. The people who want to hurt him show up disguised as rally attendees. And then a woman goes,
Starting point is 00:23:02 whoo, and falls over. When Trump comes out, that's when the bad guy and they're not together yeah especially after after this now they know that he's willing to step out from behind the bulletproof glass they might be able to to incentivize him to do that yeah well you know we do have to keep the national discourse on on the assassination attempt and that's it's kind of scary that the campaign was able you know ineptly to let the attention be drawn away from it like it's a it's a month now later and um you know essentially he's he's even or underwater in some of the polls so uh what happened with with um
Starting point is 00:23:39 the secret service congress really needs to dig in on this. And the campaign needs to say, look, don't go on break. Let's actually have the hearings and get to the bottom of this. Because you're right. We all have the same concern about his health and welfare, his whole family. You know, my little kids, we have little kids at home. Every night we say prayer for his security and health and for that of his family. But as someone who's been in a lot of these environments, I've always been alarmed by really what seemed to me to be a little bit lapse, the lack of security when you're there. And, you know, it's ultimately the Secret Service is a government agency, right?
Starting point is 00:24:23 And nothing government does is going to be the way you want it. You have to stay on government. So the question is really for the campaign. Like, what are you doing to ensure his security? And securing his security means keeping it as a frontal issue for the American people. You know, I'm most concerned about drone, a drone attack from directly above because everybody's got their eyes out, but who's looking straight up. And I mean, these things can just come right down at their target now. I mean, we're in modern warfare age and we're at war.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Basically the country's supporting a war in Israel, uh, with the Israeli stuff and the Ukraine stuff. So we're like, and with open borders, like the ability for people to come across the border maybe from an enemy country not that we're technically we're not technically at war but we're supporting wars i mean it's been politicized here's a great uh linkage with rfk jr how could they not give him uh you know uh secret service protection and trump spoke out about that to get to make sure that that uh rfk jr was getting that security protection but you know that yes there's a myriad threat matrix going on i don't even want to spend time giving good you know ideas to to uh to anybody but you know the the point is that uh we have to be
Starting point is 00:25:39 extremely vigilant in what's going on and and it's real and and unfortunately they'll keep coming what do you do you hide the guy away in a bunker for his entire presidency that's what they want they want to put trump in the basement so that he can't campaign yeah and they want to scare him so he gives up i mean i think somebody wanted to kill him and so it's not it wasn't like they accidentally it wasn't like they intentionally missed just to scare him no i think the preference for some of these people would be that trump not survived and that's terrifying what what was up with the reagan assassination attempt i know that john hinkley jr is the dude yeah he was trying to impress with jodie foster or whatever the story is some random guy wanted to impress an actress there was no government collusion technically ever found or
Starting point is 00:26:21 any of that but i mean like and then he... She was like 12 too, wasn't she? What? That's a story? Yeah, Jodie Foster was like 12 years old. She was a taxi driver. And then was that before he had George Bush Sr. as his VP? Or was it after the assassination? No, he was president at the time. And I remember it.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I was a little kid in grade school and they wheeled in the TV and brought us there. The Hinckley thing, and this is probably the case with all of these sort of big events, we never get the full truth, right? We get versions of it and maybe if we put RFK Jr. at the head of the CIAia we'll get we'll get the real truth but um you know the hinkley thing was weird too because um he didn't just come from any family he came from a very wealthy family in colorado who was very connected with some of the republican families even um so it's very bizarre the way it way it happened but um you know you just saw the valor of of the secret service at that time and the way these guys snapped too. But also the incredible equanimity and poise of Ronald Reagan in that moment.
Starting point is 00:27:35 And you saw the same instinctual thing with Trump in the moment. He gets up and says, fight, fight, fight. He wants to assure everyone at the rally that he's okay and um reagan you know he didn't even realize he had been that he had really been shot until they got in the car and they started fumbling around and it was more as i understand like the internal injuries um that were really threatening at the time so um there's great parallels in it but um look these these threats come from all different directions so the secret service does an amazing job but although the secret service agent
Starting point is 00:28:11 the head of the secret service after the reagan assassination did resign yeah i mean we in the old days people would resign whether or not they were ultimately right um to blame for it. Because that was a matter of just allowing, you know, nothing is as big as one person. And so I think this is not an issue of incompetence or something that we need to be concerned about with resignations. This is criminal investigation and arrests of Secret Service members. We're now learning the other day, what was it, that it was local law enforcement that shot crooks on the rooftop.
Starting point is 00:28:45 It was not Secret Service. That's right. It was a local law enforcement shot first and then Secret Service shot after. So now we know, added to the story, is that local law enforcement were freaking out on more than one occasion because they had warned Secret Service repeatedly to put someone on the roof and Secret Service did not do it. And it was actually local law enforcement that took out the shooter only after the fact. So you mean to tell me how many sniper teams? They had four? There were four counter sniper teams? Yeah, something like that. And
Starting point is 00:29:11 they just did nothing. They just did nothing. And the local law enforcement warned them four days in advance and then, do we really have to go through this again? Three hours before, an hour before, 26 minutes, 10 minutes, 2 minutes, and the Secret Service did nothing. Nothing. There's no way this is an accident. No way you'd have to be psychotic to
Starting point is 00:29:35 believe it. You don't think it's just that level of incompetence? That's an impossibility. Now we're learning that the Secret Service was staring at the shooter and they didn't shoot back. Like, look, if you want to make the argument, we are talking about degrees of psychosis. OK, you make the argument that first the story was people were screaming, he's got a gun and Secret Service didn't react. And it goes, well, you know, they must have not realized. And Secret Service might not have. They might have thought that was one of their guys or locals. They know what to do. Then it was actually 10 minutes before they saw the guy.
Starting point is 00:30:05 And he's walking around with an AR-15 or some kind of long gun. And they're like, well, I mean, you know, maybe they didn't realize this guy wasn't supposed to. It could be incompetence. Every step of the way, no, I'm done. We're at the point now where we've learned that Secret Service saw a man shooting at people in the stands and did not return fire at all. Do you think Donald Trump should have private security at this point? Like if you were, I don't know, I don't, I, I'm not going to advise Trump on what he should, what he should or shouldn't do with security, private security otherwise, but let me just
Starting point is 00:30:38 stress, okay, the story now is that Secret Service did not, with counter snipers, did not even take out crooks. That is to imply that they let Trump out of the holding zone with an active threat, with a man walking around with an AR-15. There's photos of crooks walking around with a, I don't know if it was actually an AR-15, it was a long gun of some sort. There's photos of him walking around with it. We kept asking, how did he get the gun? How did he get on the roof? And now we see photos of him just walking around with it. We have text messages from, I think it was local law enforcement, saying like, hey, this guy just snuck in.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Local law enforcement saying, we warned them four days in advance. All of those things together, and we get people going, I mean, honestly, it just sounds like gross incompetence to me. Now we're at the point where a guy's on a rooftop shooting into a crowd of people in Secret Service is like, what do we do? Not incompetence. That was a stand down. No question. A guy opens fire into the crowd. Trump hits the ground and the secret service are just going like, I wonder what? No BS. They were going, wait, do you think Congress is going to actually be able to get to the bottom of that? Cause they're investigating maybe in 50 years, what'll happen is the documents
Starting point is 00:31:43 will be thrown in the furnace no one will talk about it trump survived so it won't be nearly as big a deal as jfk maybe in 50 years you'll get some like it'll be some uh i don't know someone who was there who was in their 20s or 30s gonna be like oh yeah that was definitely the secret service that did it and you're gonna be like and there's gonna be some young guy going whoa you're saying it was the secret service that actually tried to kill trump and then it'll be like everybody agrees we're at the point now where everyone basically agrees the cia killed jfk i mean it's kind of wild well rfk jr says it ron paul's saying it and they won't release the documents which kind of just makes it worse
Starting point is 00:32:17 again i want to stress this to everybody listening secret service saw a man shooting into a crowd, killing a one man, critically injuring two and striking the president on the side of the head through his ear. And they did not return fire, not incompetence. If you stand down, that's your secret police force, the SS, which is crazy. Like the German Nazis had the SS, too. That's wild. But the U.S. U.S. SS is a little different. It's the SS U.S. SS. It's a secret service, secret police force. And if they failed at this level, then I think, yeah, he should have private security.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Like, Eric Prince, get on board. If he hasn't already, contact the big guns. You need full on, 100% bulletproof. I mean, I don't know how you trust anyone. You shouldn't have to. You should have some sort of mechanical defense.
Starting point is 00:33:10 But yeah, I wouldn't trust the system that failed. Yeah, that seems kind of wacky. And now that's the system that is keeping him safe at additional outdoor rallies. Right? I think two things. This is the campaign's job to get done. One is ensure his physical safety. That's your real primary mission, actually. And
Starting point is 00:33:27 like I said, you can't just rely on any government agency. You have to be double-checking them and keeping them to account. That's what we do in life. There are some people in the chat saying that actually local law enforcement shot first but didn't put him down and then Secret Service fired after the fact. They hit the rifle. That's what happened?
Starting point is 00:33:43 The local law enforcement hit the rifle. He recoiled back, and then once he was down, not shooting anymore, they took him out. That sounds to me like they were like, the jig is up. Yeah. I don't buy it for a second. When the photos came out... Which also sounds like they didn't have to kill him.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Well, either way, when the photo came out showing him walking on the grounds near the president with a rifle, i'm just like not that that's not incompetence that is not incompetence they let him do it congress should be at work right now they should not be on recess they should be digging into this because every day is he's in danger and we have to get to the bottom of it and that's you know again like we need the pressure to say to i mean we're supposed to be in charge of the house here no republicans aren't going to do anything.
Starting point is 00:34:26 They have to. I mean, this is this is the sort of thing right now. You know, you have to make a case why you want to keep control of the House and get control of the Senate. Well, they won't. Well, let's jump to this story. This is huge news. It looks like the Biden administration was cooking the books.
Starting point is 00:34:43 This is crazy. 818,000 jobs vanish from jobs report. So this is fascinating. When we get people like Don Lemon going out in the street and being like, who are you going to vote for? And they go, I'm voting for Trump. He goes, why? And they say the economy was better. And it was actually that's not true.
Starting point is 00:34:58 The economy is better now. Oh, turns out they were lying the whole time. This is the largest revision in 15 years. They accidentally added 818,000 jobs to the reports that have been coming out. It was fake. And this is huge. The numbers are fake. They're saying that the Biden admin was cooking the books to make it look like the economy was good.
Starting point is 00:35:20 And what's fascinating is I'm going to, you know what, let me just pull this up from civics. Civics.com. State of the current economy. Let's find here. Economy, current condition and 38 percent very bad, 20 percent fairly good, 22 percent fairly bad, 9 percent very good. OK, so let's just say we had 60 percent saying it's bad to some degree. Let's take a look at independent voters. Independent voters overwhelmingly think the economy is bad. Forty four percent say very bad. Twenty two percent. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Twenty five percent say fairly bad. Republicans even more so think the economy is bad. But for some reason, Democrats, it inverts. For some reason, Democrats think the economy is good. Now, that makes literally no sense at all, unless you realize these are people who think the economy is based off of government numbers and Republicans and independents, independents especially. Let's let's do this. Let's say Republicans are just partisan. They're like, ah, the Democrats are in charge. The economy is bad. Fine. I'll take it. Independents are saying the economy is bad. And these are people who are nonpartisan saying, I don't care for either party.
Starting point is 00:36:27 My bills are too expensive. My groceries are too expensive. The economy is not good. Democrats think the economy is good because they've been cooking the books and putting out fake numbers. And now they've been rescinded right at the last minute. Well, Democrats think that the economy is good because they have been told to believe what they are told not to believe their senses and their eyes and ears. So that's what they do. They're told that the economy is good and they think, oh, I'm just struggling a little bit right now. It's not actually an indicator of economic problems.
Starting point is 00:36:58 It's just me right now. I'm just having some issues. And they blame themselves. This is true of my family members who are lefty and struggling. And they're like, oh, I'm just having a tough time. I'm working three jobs. You know, I should be doing better. And I'm like, but the economy is not good. Like, that's why you have three jobs right now. That's what's going on. Trump accused the Biden-Harris administration of being caught fraudulently manipulating job statistics to hide the true extent of the economic ruin they have
Starting point is 00:37:22 inflicted upon America. This is crazy. Take a look at, we have this, CNN. I haven't seen this clip. I saw this posted by Tom Elliott, so we'll watch this. Breaking news in the CNN right now. The job growth has been far weaker in the U.S. and originally reported that as according to new data just coming in this morning. Let's get right to CNN's Matt Egan. What's the headline, Matt?
Starting point is 00:37:45 Jim, 818,000 fewer jobs were added during the period between April 2023 and March of this year. We were bracing for these revisions to come out and show that job growth was weaker. And that is what we got. This is probably on the high end of the expectations. Some of the forecasters have been, yeah. The high end. Probably around a few hundred thousand jobs. Goldman Sachs had said maybe. Let me let me show you this clip. This is Biden Harris, commerce secretary. Shocking. This this one's got everybody freaking out. When you hear that, do you potentially think that this new numbers could be a liability for this campaign?
Starting point is 00:38:22 No. When I hear that, first of all, I don't believe it because I've never heard Donald Trump say anything truthful. It is, though, from the Bureau of Labor. I don't I'm not familiar with that. When you hear that. So a lot of people are saying she's not familiar with the Bureau of Labor. No, no. And if you're talking about the report, this is the schizophrenic derangement. And this is the biggest this woman represents exemplifies so well the danger this country faces.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I was hanging out several months ago playing a game of poker and some guy lost his mind at the poker table when someone asked me who I was voting for. And I was like, Trump, of course. And the guy said Trump has never said has never said anything truthful in his life. And then some other random guy who does not seem very political went, are you kidding me? Come on. The guy talked about sports before. That's stupid. The idea that you would genuinely say something like genuinely believe Trump has never told
Starting point is 00:39:17 the truth before is derangement. It proves this woman's got a fractured psyche where her brain, her prefrontal cortex has ceased to function. Donald Trump has talked about reality TV before. Even if you think he's lying about politics, it's impossible to say the guy's never told the truth about anything ever. They are insane. And they're ignoring the fact that apparently they were cooking the books. She's also using a very sophisticated deflection technique, right? We know the Bureau of Labor Statistics is the one that put this number out. It has nothing to do with Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:39:52 He's just repeating what the government actually put out. But she manages in the very first part of the sentence to one, say she doesn't think it's true. Well, the government just said it. And, you know, nominally, she's in charge of that the bureau through her department. But then, too, it's like the fact that Donald Trump said anything or whatever has nothing completely immaterial. So the majority of the people, not the majority, but a large swath of people will come away from that thinking, oh, I heard enough enough it's not true um and it's just pure deflection but the fascinating thing is that you you don't need a jobs report to know the economy is not going well i went to the grocery store and a can of whipped cream was six dollars and you know in in here true you know
Starting point is 00:40:39 like it's like don't believe your lying eyes uh we. I don't know if half of these people ever go to the grocery store, but like $100, you know, my estimation used to fill up the back of a station wagon. Now it's two bags worth. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Like you go out there and you're like, I can't go to the grocery store for under 60 bucks. It's like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:40:59 But, you know, there they're saying that the numbers are from, I think, April 23 to, or August 23 to March. April is April, March. Like we're not even talking about the up to present. So, you know, I think it's a little dog bites man kind of thing when you say that the numbers coming out of the Biden administration are cooked. I always assume they are. And they're always going to revise them after the fact.
Starting point is 00:41:27 But in this particular case, the fact that they had the courage to do it during the pendency of the DNC is interesting. The revision. Yeah, because they wanted to just hide it. Yeah. Everybody is paying attention. They're like singing and dancing and they're having joy and they're having vibes. Well, this is when you do it.
Starting point is 00:41:44 The Biden administration even has what they're calling a vibrarian. Did you guys see this? A vibrarian. Uh-huh. Who their job, it's like a Gen Z person in the White House, and her entire job is checking social media to see Axios had it. We covered it as well, but her whole job is to check the socials and see what people are feeling and then let the administration know so that they can counter the feels. You know, I like that word because it sounds a lot like vivarium. And I would argue the Democrats have a functional political vivarium as well.
Starting point is 00:42:16 And that's basically how they keep their voter base living in this broken, fake world. What's vivarium? It's like a like's like a fish tank. It's like a little tank where you put the animals in it, and then they live in their fake little world where they don't know. I thought you said vibrarium, and it was like vibranium? Yeah, vibranium. No, but they're saying like the vibes librarian.
Starting point is 00:42:40 That's funky. Is the White House. Vibrarian? I mean, don't call them that at least. Just call them like an analyst or something. Right, yeah. It him that at least. Just call him like an analyst or something. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:46 It's Molly Opinski. We should just be like Democrats are disqualified from anything. That wouldn't be true democracy. I don't care. They don't have it. We don't have a true democracy right now where you can just install a person from the top down and then declare that that person has grassroots support. It's such lies. And it's such obvious lies.
Starting point is 00:43:11 And I can tell that it's getting dicey over there because my mom stopped talking to me about politics. She's like super lefty. And she always wants to argue with me about politics. And I recently spent a very tense week hanging out with her where she couldn't figure out what to talk to me about. But she definitely would not bring up politics. And I wasn't going to bring it up because she hates my job. She hates my job. And she started telling everybody that she could find that she wished I went into accounting. And I was like, mom,
Starting point is 00:43:33 that was never on the table. I went to art school. I was never going into accounting. Where did you get this crazy idea? Don't you just win every debate? No, because I don't want to debate with my mom. She gets grouchy and she cries and then she's very stressed out. Maybe you need to. And it ruins dinner. I don't need to ruin dinner. I completely disagree. I have ruined dinner.
Starting point is 00:43:51 The economy is ruining dinner. And now it's not worth it anymore. I completely disagree. I think the reason that people persist in these delusions is because people don't want to ruin dinner. And she doesn't debate. She walks away and she gets angry. And then she talks to me about how I'm a terrible person and blames me for things.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And it's just like, and then, and then ask her next time that happens. Do you guys not have weird moms who like don't make any sense? And it's just my mom's based. No, your mom's great. She's a math teacher. And she's terrific. Um, I got, I got a great in her own totally different way that doesn't. I gotta figure out my, the tone when I talk to my mom, because if I own totally different way that doesn't jive
Starting point is 00:44:25 I gotta figure out the tone when I talk to my mom because if my tone gets out of control or out of whack she'll shut down but if I can stay calm. The shutdown yes my mom does the shutdown. I haven't chatted with my parents yet since Kamala became the nominee whatever I've been fantasizing about being like so what do you
Starting point is 00:44:41 guys think about protecting our democracy by installing a candidate without being voted for and like what they're gonna say like they haven't talked to me about it they haven't brought it up at all rarely it's broken brains man i think there's nothing there anymore it's you know you know what's really crazy is this will probably shock a lot of people ask if you haven't talked to a loved one a friend a family member in a long time ask them if donald trump called nazis very fine people they believe it they still do joe biden just said it again at the dnc they still think it's true and i it's it's remarkable to me that anyone still thinks that you even snopes debunked it it's seven years later part of their catechism
Starting point is 00:45:23 it is it's not reality it's part of their catechism. It is. It's not reality. It's part of their actual religion. That's a good way to put it. You know, it's scripture to them. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So we all have, besides Tim, I don't know about yourself there, Paul, but all of the
Starting point is 00:45:35 elders that are on the left spectrum that we have to fight with and kind of convince the reality is real and they don't want to go with the reality. Yeah. Yeah. I don't fight with them anymore. They're willing to, though. If it's blatant, they'll accept it. Fortunately, like I watched this video of Zelensky saying,
Starting point is 00:45:50 the Americans are not funding the war in Ukraine. And I watched it with my dad. And then I was like, he said, we're not funding. He said, no, he said, we're not fighting the war in Ukraine. I was like, no, no, he said funding. Let's rewind it and watch. So he did begrudgingly. But then when we watched, he was like, you're right.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I'll eat that one. You were right. Funding. We're not funding. Zelensky blatantly lied and said that right after we sent them 61 billion he went on like MSNBC and said no the Americans are not funding the war in Ukraine and I was like yeah we just sent 61 billion what you got to do is you got to put parental controls when you go visit them so they can't watch MSNBC or CNN anymore so fun they're not in the room just do it's the code. Yeah. When did politics... Can I watch this anymore?
Starting point is 00:46:26 I'm a little older than you guys, but both of my parents passed, right? My mom was a treasure, right? She was a public school teacher. Genius, right? She was a chemist. My parents met. They were government scientists, right?
Starting point is 00:46:40 They were both first in their families to go to college. But, you know politics maybe now you guys talk politics with your parents it wasn't a thing really when i when i was growing up and we weren't at this level of division in the country you certainly would not have um kind of fights over thanksgiving about politics there's a little bit of weirdness but this really came into being i think maybe 10 15 years ago and certainly really coalesced under the left. I think it was before that.
Starting point is 00:47:10 It's before this and it's generational. Okay. So people need to understand that we are – our culture is basically an organism unto itself that ages. It is not that one day political polarization existed. It is that 20, 30 years ago, political polarization was injected into millennials
Starting point is 00:47:32 and two different worldviews were being taught to children. So now as those children age, the division ages along with it. When millennials enter the workforce, the existing political division enters the workforce with the existing political division enters the workforce with the millennials. I saw it was
Starting point is 00:47:47 2006 is when I noticed. It was the shattering of the narrative that we were the good guys and the war in Iraq was just. When social media appeared in internet news, when independent journalism came out and they were like, actually there were no weapons of mass destruction. Because
Starting point is 00:48:03 before that in the 90s, we all believed what we were told on NBC like we would sit around the news would be on but no one questioned it And then we went to war in Iraq and it was like okay hit the brakes What in the hell is going on and then the people that learned about the liberal international order? Started to really wake up really quickly and the others that haven't really delved into it are still kind of in that paradigm Yeah, well, it's, look, it's cultural, it's internet-based. When we looked at the polls discussing whether or not someone thought
Starting point is 00:48:32 a civil war was likely in this country, the silent generation overwhelmingly says no. It's like 10 or 12% says there will be. When you go to boomers, it jumps up to like 20-something percent. When you go to Gen X, it jumps up to like 30-some-odd percent. When you go to millennials, it jumps up to like 40-some 40 some odd percent. And then Gen Z, it's over 50.
Starting point is 00:48:48 The polarization is generational. That's why, you know, you're saying, Paul, like you didn't have this. It wasn't there. I mean, and we're saying it happens with our own families. Yeah, I went to MIT underground, undergrad and grad. And so this is before Al Gore invented the Internet, right? They actually had it at MIT believe it or not and that's what we were beginning to use we go to our locker and download things and and go to the mainframe computers and actually work on the internet I went into law school and then um right when the late 90s when I was going to practice in New York to use the internet you have to go to the IT department
Starting point is 00:49:25 and actually, you know, like phone in basically. That was the very beginning of it. But I went to work at a big New York firm that represented a lot of the traditional media companies. And I think the real break point where that narrative, the control, the Walter Cronkite control got broken, if memory serves, with monica and the dress and and drudge and getting out and basically saying you know this led to the bill clinton
Starting point is 00:49:55 impeachment but they they you know other mainstream media had that story and they colluded and they decided they weren't going to run it but then that drudge ran it and it changed the world so here's the here's the question for your parents if you did not eat breakfast yesterday how would you have felt wouldn't they just say hungry the the the point of the question is that people of low iq can't comprehend conditional hypotheticals yeah yeah so when you say if you did not have breakfast yesterday how would you have felt Oh, yeah, yeah. should actually be asked of many Democrats. If you cannot understand hypotheticals, you cannot build a machine. If we are to ask ourselves, how do we form government, a government? How do we make sure the government works and that there's justice accountability and it keeps working? Okay, well, you need to ask yourself hypothetical questions. What happens if in our government,
Starting point is 00:50:56 an election is rigged? Like, let's just say hypothetically, someone rigs an election. What would the mechanism be by which we resolve that problem? I know. Simple idea. We file a lawsuit. OK, if so. So if your state believes that your election was rigged or improperly handled, you file a lawsuit to challenge the results so that a court can actually go through the documents and the arguments to determine whether or not the election was held properly. We had a problem then. The problem is the federal government has expectations and deadlines. The federal government is a separate entity from the state government. So if you're in the state of, say, Illinois, and you believe the election was not properly handled, well, the federal government still requires the paperwork be submitted and filed because your dispute has nothing to do with them. OK, if you and your brother are arguing over who should pay for the concert tickets, Ticketmaster does not care at all. They're like, look, give me the money for the tickets. You guys sort it out after the fact.
Starting point is 00:51:50 OK, so what you'd need to do is you would need to have your electors file the paperwork, submit them to the federal government, conditionally stating we're waiting for adjudication on these results. Should they change? We'll let you know. Should the judge ruling come in? We'll let you know, should the judge ruling come in? We'll let you know. But we're making sure we're getting our paperwork in before the deadline for the federal government, a separate jurisdiction. Then the court rules maybe a month later and says, you know what?
Starting point is 00:52:15 Actually, this election was improperly handled and we're going to certify the other slate which have been submitted to the federal government. Then they send word and legal documents from the governor saying, yep, we took care of it. And you know what, where this process came from? Hawaii in 1960
Starting point is 00:52:31 because it literally happened. Kennedy and Nixon. And so what happened in 2020 with Donald Trump and all these states? Literally the same thing, just more states. And except now
Starting point is 00:52:39 they're locking up the electors. That's right, because they're psychotic, fascistic despots. And they're locking up these grandmas who were just available in case there was a recount and the election went the other way. But if you can't understand a hypothetical situation and you say to someone, we did not properly adjudicate these claims, so we don't know the response from someone who can't mentally understand is just. But it but it was certified. Yes, I understand. But we did not review evidence.
Starting point is 00:53:10 We have to look at the arguments. The arguments are not, in most cases, that someone made a fake ballot and mailed it in. The arguments were that the governors and the judges did not have the authority under the Constitution to alter the rules of the election. Only the state state legislature did. Therefore, any changes that were made make the election improper and are up for challenge but we never actually got proper adjudication yeah it's very irritating to to see this whole um the the narrative that spread from 2020 forward belies 200 years of history the actual united states statutes and the constitution this this Electoral Count Act.
Starting point is 00:53:45 This was how it was always done. And anybody who cracked open an actual history book in high school and took American history would understand there were disputed elections. This very process was put in place to weigh various slates of electors. And there were some traditional fights involved in it. So this was just the next iteration of American history. I want to, we'll jump to this story here. We had this tweet from Rolling Stone. They say that's the genius work of this one small bit of the Harris-Waltz merch.
Starting point is 00:54:15 The camouflage hat reclaims the rural and Southern identity that mainstream Democrats have long ignored. Dems are finally embracing country music fans. That's all they needed this whole time. One hat was the camouflage hat. And, you know, just the other day we're out here in Appalachia. I saw an old man wearing a camouflage Harris Waltz hat. And I said, sir, sir, you're supporting Harris Waltz. He goes, well, I just got to tell you, once I saw that hat, I knew it was for me. I don't see Trump wearing a camo hat. And I'm like, that's it. They've won.
Starting point is 00:54:48 They've won the South over. Just kidding. That's insane. These people are morons. Is it jungle camo? I don't know. It's all black. Old school camo. Space camo's the same thing because it's not just all black.
Starting point is 00:55:03 They need invisible for space camo. So you get a the same thing because it's not just all black. You need invisible for space camo. So you get a... Is her name Emma Ermhoff? Ella. Ella Ermhoff. Ella Ermhoff. Where's she from? New York? She lives in Brooklyn, yeah. And they put a camo hat on her and that's it. You've convinced southern conservatives
Starting point is 00:55:19 to vote Democrat. She looks like she's headed to Williamsburg for a nice coke binge and a bunch of electro clash or something. But even with the camo hat, she still looks like she's headed to Williamsburg. With the camo hat. I'm saying with the camo hat. Yeah. She looks like she's headed for Williamsburg.
Starting point is 00:55:36 She takes the camo hat off. She could pass in Park Slope. But Democrats don't understand that they're just doing what hipsters do yes they're not actually endearing themselves appropriating bits of americana cultural modification yeah they're appropriating bits of americana and saying that that makes them american i mean you see how excited they get when they're like look i'm american too look i have the accessories i have the bangles they're they chanting USA at the convention, waving American flags. And outside, they're burning American flags.
Starting point is 00:56:09 They're burning them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have a reporter out there. I think you guys had a reporter out there, too. I think Elad's there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:15 And it's just, it's madness what's going on outside. And if you were at the RNC, like, there weren't mad protests in the street. It was like. There was a protest march. There were like a street. It was like there was a protest. There were like a couple. There was like a little bit, but there was nothing like this. Nothing like, you know, screaming that Joe Biden is going to have plenty of time on his hands, screaming about Kamala Harris, screaming about foreign wars. I mean, it's it's absolutely ludicrous to the thing that they're most upset about, because you have a lot of conservatives who are upset about Israel.
Starting point is 00:56:44 And they basically are like, we don't want to fund foreign wars. We don't think America has any place in this war. Okay. That makes some sense. You have Democrats out there screaming about this war saying we want to fund the terrorists more. It's like, who, what's going on? That's just insane. It says a lot about them. They're very shallow, very materialistic. They'll wear a pussy hat. Pardon the language, but they wear hats like that. And they wear this. And just virtual signaling, they think that's going to get them across.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Because for them, a little tiny bit like that means a lot. And they're also screaming about abortion rights is rights for Gaza. And it's like abortion is very illegal in Gaza. I'm sorry, but this is a Simpsons joke. This is literally a Simpsons joke. When Kang and Kodos took over Bob Dole. Twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Bob Dole and Bill Clinton got taken over by aliens. Their bodies were taken over by aliens. And I can't remember. I think it was like alien Bill Clinton or whatever was like, no abortions for any or not like abortions for all. And they go, boo. And he goes, abortions for everyone. Boo. And then he goes, abortions for some tiny American flags for everyone else.
Starting point is 00:57:52 And they go, yeah. And they cheer. This is what Democrats think. They're like, just put it, put a camo hat on. And now the Southern pro-lifers are going to vote for you. It normally goes in my mind a camo hat uh hand and glove with two-way rights so i think it's very weird to try to take one from the rest and certainly if you're looking at the at the democrats this is the gun grab um mandatory i mean kamala has been very clear um kamala rather, been very clear about mandatory gun buybacks.
Starting point is 00:58:28 I mean, this is no different than blackface, if you ask me. Oh, yeah. I am offended. As a West Virginia living here now, it's very offended. Everyone agrees that, you know, this is, they're,
Starting point is 00:58:41 actually, I'm kidding, but what's funny is they're going to Chicago and getting urban liberals like Brooklynite Ella to wear this camo hat to like make it seem like they're Southern conservative or something. Are they going to buy back the guns in Chicago instead of actually getting, I don't know, some Southern conservatives. Also, the other thing with gun buybacks is you buy back somebody's gun. Like, this was happening, I think, in New York, if I recall. Gang members were turning in their guns, getting money, and then going to buy better guns. Well, there was one funny story where they did, like, a gun buyback. So a guy 3D printed a bunch of guns and then sold them to the government.
Starting point is 00:59:20 He made, like, a lot of money. He made a couple grand, like 5K. Yeah, is that what it was? Yeah. It was 3D printing them, and they were like, all right, a gun's a gun. He's like, man, I can make these things for like $3. And there you go. I don't know if the Democrats have any actual strategy.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I mean, we know they have no campaign positions, and now Rolling Stone is just being like, well, they're wearing camouflage hats. Are they planning to lose? Is this it? Like, is Trump really just going to win? I don't know. I mean, it depends on if all the vibe people vibe their way right over to the ballot box and actually vote. I mean, that's really going to be the most telling moment. How compelled are these people going to feel? You know, I do. I do have that emotional reaction in me just wanting the economy to collapse so I can rub their faces in it. But, you know i do i do have that emotional reaction in me just wanting the economy to collapse so i can rub their faces in it but you know unlike bill maher i won't call for a recession to win an election well i think it is to be fair i don't want to cut i mean nobody wants to believe
Starting point is 01:00:17 more than trump's going to win than i do but uh you know the reality is that the last seven weeks have been a marked change really you know we know, we came out from, obviously, almost five weeks ago, the president being shot to, you know, the trend lines crossing right now. And certainly, you know, she leads in the popular vote, tallies on real clear politics. So, you know, you have to step back and say, how did we get here in the first place? Like, why is Kamala even the candidate? And there have been some serious miscues with the Trump campaign. So, like, in fact... He seems to be improving, though. It's improved in the last week, I think. But, you know, we have to be real that there was no plan in place here to meet up with her. And there has been a lot of ground loss.
Starting point is 01:01:07 What do you think are the miscues? Some of the miscues anyway? I think the fundamental one is, is, um, kind of overplaying the, the, uh, Biden and pushing them off the stage. Yeah. It's like, um, they've taken, they took the Democrat bait, the campaign did. And, you know, like anytime campaign did and you know like anytime anywhere you know throw down a debate it's like no actually you debate after he's locked in as the candidate and the campaign was arrogant you know you look at this you know there's an article in the atlantic right the campaign apparently did six months uh letting the atlantic behind um behind backstage now the atlantic is owned by steve jobs
Starting point is 01:01:48 his widow right she gives like a hundred million dollars to the democrats so it's very odd when you're working with with the left to um uh you know write stories about you and kind of give them let your hair down with the atlantic but if you go back and read that article, Tim Alberta on July 10th, the campaign's basically saying, no, no, no, we're very confident Joe is going to be sticking in this. In fact, there's $250 million that's impossible for them to shift. Well, Democrats figured out how to shift that in an afternoon. So that was just a gross miscalculation. Yeah, I've been thinking about that, too.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Like it was really a mistake to go through with that debate. Well, you know, people advised to do it and and, you know, people didn't put brakes on it. And and if you don't have a plan in place, then it's a major mistake. But then you kind of move on to like, how did we dissipate all this goodwill about the, you know, essentially the concern about the assassination? How did that get moved off the front page? Well, that got moved off the front page because as soon as Trump got almost assassinated, they kicked Biden off the ticket and inserted Kamala. So the Democrats just grabbed the news cycle. As soon as that happened, they grabbed the news cycle, almost as though they had been planning to grab it all along in that moment.
Starting point is 01:03:08 You know what I mean? One mistake triggers the next, basically. But I mean, Trump also and his campaign, like they launched their campaign so early that it almost it felt like the right time to have a debate in June. All of the other candidates were off the table. You know, everybody had been cleared out. The Democrats refused to allow anybody to challenge Biden, even though there were good reasons to, you know, they locked out basically Dean Phillips and RFK Jr. So it's like the whole thing got so accelerated that it was easy, I think, to forget about the actual
Starting point is 01:03:43 electoral timeline, which, you know, you could say was, yeah, sometimes I think you just have to be silent and stand back and let your your opponent collapse. And that's what Joe Biden was doing. If you remember, there was a period there, what happened post debate, but like, there was kind of a countdown to see whether he would even be be the candidate. And, you know, instead of just letting that happen they stepped in with other news i mean one day you took a shot at project 2025 um that kind of gets the base going because that you know again they're taking the uh kind of the trap that the left has set for them they with project 2025 90 that's misinformation from the left. The stuff they
Starting point is 01:04:25 say is in Project 2025 is not in Project 2025. But to kind of denigrate that and knock it kind of shows, you know, a political misjudgment. Well, they certainly count on people not reviewing it and not looking at it for themselves. And also the way that the left presents their information, like, you know, they're involved with the Center for American Progress. And we were talking about it before the show, the Center for American Progress didn't publish 900 pages of policy, they have a website that's really hard to navigate in terms of like, try if you're trying to, it's easy to navigate. But it's if you're trying to find actual information, it's very difficult to find it. Yeah, we call that Project Special K.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Yeah, very effective. They're gonna ban Zin. I love that cereal. Yeah, well, I mean... Tim Walton, Minnesota has got a 95% tax on Zin. Oh, yeah? Is that right? Yep. It's on all nicotine products, so Zin is taxed at 95%. Well, there's
Starting point is 01:05:18 tobacco. Cigarettes are really expensive in so many parts of the country, like Chicago. You know, I was reading an article about that. And in New York, of course, they're very expensive. San Francisco. Yeah. I mean, to get back to what you're saying about the Center for American Progress,
Starting point is 01:05:32 why is Project 2025 different? Why are we operating in the light and they're operating in the darkness? I mean, you have to kind of step back and say, how did we even get to a place where men are using women's bathrooms and playing in sports? I can tell you exactly how we got there because I watched it happen. Over 50 years,
Starting point is 01:05:49 but it was basically allowing a permanent government class to operate in Washington and not bring the rest of the country into this government. So shows like this tell people what's actually going on, but we're not going to change it until people listening to this show come and work in washington so that was really the whole promise of project 2025 is to recruit an entire cadre of people to come and make change in washington who aren't part of this permanent government class and you can't do a big recruiting effort without talking about it now the ideas you know, to be fair, like Heritage Foundation's put out a book for the last 50 years almost, like this is not anything new.
Starting point is 01:06:32 What is new to Ian's point is that it's actually organized at this point. This is 110 groups coming together and simpatico rowing in the same direction, thousands of volunteers. And it's threatening. What's in that book, what these folks have been learning about is really the deconstruction of the administrative state. This is the antidote to really the deep state. And really that is the threat of the whole thing. So the point is that a lot of these ideas should be embraced, not everything in there. This is a, you know, kind of a, a wishlist, but it was, it was a coming together of conservatives way in advance of the presidential election in 2022 for that matter.
Starting point is 01:07:19 And certainly it allowed various candidates to figure out if they wanted to go to a conservative route, this is where you should be. And that was that was the promise of the book. But the book also serves as the whole project does to teach people about the government. Our side never systematically focused on how we can take control of the administrative state. And unless people learn and commit to coming to serve, nothing's going to change. Let's jump to this post from Cliff Maloney. Panic mode for Kamala.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Democrat mail-in requests on this date in 2020 versus 2024. It's down 28.5% in Philadelphia. In Allegheny, which is Pittsburgh, it's down 17.14%. A major blow to Democrat strategy of running up the score. If we take a look at the betting odds, it is now even, dead even. When you aggregate them all together, it is Trump 49.3 to Harris 49.3. Polymarket actually has Donald Trump up above Harris. And Newsweek has it.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Donald Trump's odds of winning election rise after DNC start. The more Democrats talk about what they want to do, why they're angry, the more they lose people. This is why Kamala is not giving interviews. It's why they want to run the basement campaign. They do better when they shut up and hide, but they can't. It would be too strange and eventually it would stop working. I doubt Kamala's going to do any real interviews. She's going to do the one debate. We'll see how that goes. I got a feeling Trump is going to obliterate her. Yeah, well, she doesn't have much to say and she doesn't know how to use words in a way that actually delivers information. She's going to say,
Starting point is 01:09:00 look, I'm going to get in there and fix the economy and Trump's going to go, you're in there now, and she has no answer. Right, And she's also just going to keep repeating the same phrases. She might even talk about, you know, unburdening herself from what might have been, which of course means Joe Biden and her entire record to date. Not from what might have been, unburdening herself from what has been. What has been. Yeah. What has been. But yeah, I mean, when you look at,
Starting point is 01:09:23 when you look at what's going on with the DNC and with Kamala's allies and you realize that the DNC put out a platform that was for Joe Biden, they haven't there's no platform that's specifically for Kamala because it allows her to stay vague. CNN said the same thing. You have allies and advisors telling her not to do interviews, not to do debates. You have Pete Buttigieg saying, you know, don't give an interview on Fox. Don't give a debate on Fox. You know, he said that directly to The New York Times that he doesn't want her to do that. So she's getting the advice that she should, you know, not speak to press.
Starting point is 01:10:06 The most press she's taken. It's good advice. It's like a couple of questions when she's outside of her airplane or something like that. And they've not gone well for her. And they have not gone well for her. That's correct. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Because she doesn't have any answers. She doesn't have any policies. She doesn't have any plans. She just has a camo hat. She likes Venn diagrams. She's very good at Venn diagramming. Right? We should do like a nice little like when she launched one first foray into talking about
Starting point is 01:10:30 policy she she did the price controls thing and even the left the left destroyed that concept and um and the housing plans which are really disastrous. What are those? Oh, yeah, the tax credit got a bunch of financial influencers political. There's a few people that I watch periodically on various social media, and they talk about finance, investment, property values, and they don't talk politics
Starting point is 01:10:58 ever. As soon as Kamala was like, we're going to do a $25,000 grant for first-time homebuyers, they were just like, no! It's going to instantly spike the price of homes. It'll drive prices up. It'll reduce supply. Everything will go badly.
Starting point is 01:11:14 There's no way a communist is going to make it to the President of the United States. Not anytime soon. I can't see that happening. It's not about them being a communist. It's about them saying whatever they have to say to win power. And Kamala may not intentionally try to invoke communism yeah but she's going to be doing things like vote for me and i'll give you money well i'm i've said it before and i'm super concerned with electronic voting machines flipping vote tallies behind the scenes i don't know how
Starting point is 01:11:39 to combat that in real time like it's like the definition of insanity according to einstein was you do the same thing over and over and you expect a different result. If you're just going to put your head down and think more voting is going to solve it. Virginia switched to all paper belts. Good. Yeah, that was really smart.
Starting point is 01:11:55 That's a great start. Everybody should do that. Probably. Every red state should executive action paper belts. You know that. Let them sue you over it and then you can run them through the courts like they did to the Trump supporters
Starting point is 01:12:07 and just say, no standing, you can't sue me. Chain of custody, you got to be able to look at every vote, man. But even then, you hand it to somebody who takes it to somebody else who takes it to somebody else. What's the chain of custody? You trust the people.
Starting point is 01:12:19 That's not a good system because those people can betray you. That concerns me greatly. The other issue is, what if there's one person used who votes in multiple different counties they're not going to look like you know a county in northern illinois is not going to check a county in southern illinois southern illinois john smith votes same social security number votes the same time in northern they added both numbers get added to the count total count and no one's going to grab the ballots from up there and bring them down there no one's going to run the names through the system to check to make sure they only voted one time when you guys
Starting point is 01:12:51 built 20 project 2025 is it focused on like the administrative not that it's colluding to flip votes behind the scenes but if it were is there some sort of maneuver to investigate you know our ours was really uh examination of the executive branch so the only department there is the federal election commission there's a chapter about that but in the main our project didn't look into election integrity and security because as you were saying earlier that's that's essentially a state's issue. Now, I don't mean to cut off the air of good feeling and the comfort level here. But the reality is that this is the sort of work that needed to be blocked and tackled over the last three, four years. Like learning from 2020 and preventing it. And who does that?
Starting point is 01:13:41 That's the RNC, right? That's the group that is fundamentally charged with ensuring the election. Now, if you're following the RNC, Ronna McDaniels got her fourth term, and she was supported by people within the campaign to do that. As a lawyer, I've worked on election integrity for almost 30 years. And kind of in and out of it, I saw what happened post-2020. It was a wreckage. The work just hadn't been done. But one thing the RNC did was tell us they had this taken care of.
Starting point is 01:14:20 They were telling you in October 2020, we got this. And now they're telling you they got this so um do they have this that's the big question and you know president trump's like hey i can get the voters you guys take care of this hasn't been taken care of you know a lot of people on the ground a lot of the few things that have been done are being done at the grassroots level by volunteers and i don't think the resources have been moved out to really tackle this we have not you know filed 200 cases there is no counterpart to mark elias on our side and um you know mark elias is the democrat
Starting point is 01:15:00 mastermind who came up with he's he's a lawyer from perkins cooey out on his own but basically is their their chief guy he among other things he was also involved in the project 2025 misinformation campaign but this guy is you know a very formidable adversary very smart and um he managed to really break open and rig the 2020 election systematically. So, you know, I think that we need to put all forces in into ensuring here at this 11th hour that we can have some election integrity. Yeah. Yeah. It's by no means, you know, I wouldn't get too comfy about it right no i'm not comfortable at all that a foreign corporation is overseeing our elections and and tallying votes behind the scenes with proprietary software like that's insane insane the very suggestion that you know the algorithms the way they count votes could be proprietary is is to me one of the most offensive of all legal
Starting point is 01:16:03 concepts but they've managed to do that in the various case laws because we've never mounted an adequate challenge to that. And this kind of goes back to what we were earlier talking about. There's a huge imbalance in big law of conservatives and capable attorneys. Certainly, there are a lot of good conservative attorneys, but they don't have the resources behind them. So we as a movement really need to get those folks engaged. If we were going to do that, which we are, would we then do it at the state level with attorneys general? That's where some of the best work comes from, obviously. You look at a superhero
Starting point is 01:16:41 like Ken Paxton, right? That guy, he did more for the movement than many across. But like those folks need to be empowered. But look, a lot of the people who are the electors, the attorneys who brought these suits, they're getting disbarred. They're facing financial ruin. A lot of these people, some people are even in prison. They have like four members of the RNC I think who are under indictment what are we doing to protect that in Arizona like this is the party has to come and support these people and like because a lot of this is fear what they want you to do is every
Starting point is 01:17:20 good lawyer stand down they don't want you to pipe up because they're gonna strip you of your career if you go to fight. And that's really what the next generation of election interference is, is to dissuade anyone from getting out there. That's like what's going on in the UK right now with the free speech problems.
Starting point is 01:17:38 It's like, I saw a report from the National Review, I think today, that was talking about how there are judges who will sentence people to like, you know, years, months in prison for Facebook comments. But they'll let off people who are convicted of having like, you know, a bunch of horrible child exploitation images. And these judges will say like, oh, you just you just need to go outside and meet people to the child exploiters. And then to the person who makes a Facebook post, like there was this 53 year old woman. She's the sole caretaker for her disabled husband. She said like, you know, she said something very unlike, you know, that you wouldn't like to say on Facebook. But she's getting 15 months in prison for what she said on Facebook, which seems insane no matter what you say.
Starting point is 01:18:26 You know, she wasn't making direct threats. She doesn't have any capability. No, they're making an example out of her. But it's not just her. They're doing it to multiple people, locking them up for speech. I think there's similar stories where they actually announced they're going to be letting people out of the UK prisons. Exactly. They're going to be letting people out to lock up people who said things online.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Yeah. They're putting into be letting people out to lock up people who said things online. Yeah. They're putting into place this early release program. But it is true, I think, what you say about the, it has been shocking to see like all of the lawyers who were indicted in the Georgia Rico case, you know, those people are having their lives ruined. A bunch of people pled out so that they wouldn't have to like face ruin from it.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Well, you know. And in Arizona, I think a lot of people pled out so that they wouldn't have to like face ruin from it well you know in arizona i think a lot of the electors are are getting um indicted they got indicted there wisconsin i think and some other places and it does seem like a real fear tactic so that it it's like the the codification of the whole you know kind of like um me too anti-racist era where if if you say something, you get canceled and lose your job. Now it's in the legal system. Yeah, no, we as a movement, we have to support and indemnify these people. And, you know, also what they've done here in, you know, Fannie Willis, that prosecution fell apart because these good lawyers were defending themselves. They're the ones who uncovered her illicit... Yeah, one of the guys who she indicted was the one who uncovered her
Starting point is 01:19:51 misdeeds there. Exactly. So, you know, these folks are warriors in the movement. And that's really part of what, you know, Project 2025 is. We used to call ourselves the Coalition of the Canceled. But these are the true believers. These are the people who've really laid it on the line. What Project 2025 is, we used to call ourselves the Coalition of the Canceled. But these are the true believers. These are the people who've really laid it on the line. And what the left wants to do is extinguish that feeling for really giving. And it's dangerous because we're outnumbered out there. Going back to what Tim was talking about, what he showed up there,
Starting point is 01:20:29 that less Democrats are doing mail-in ballots, voting and whatnot. But just remember, Pennsylvania came out on August 8th that they let everyone know, by the way, the Pennsylvania State Department are letting everyone know that it might take days
Starting point is 01:20:39 to count the election. Like, you know, so you know, it might take us a minute. It's fake. It's a lie. Yeah. It's a lie. Like, let's say, you know, it might take us a minute. We might not have all the votes. It's fake. It's a lie. Yeah. It's a lie.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Well, Ron DeSantis called them out on that, too. Many other countries just do it. What happens is you've got a voting station. As in Reagan. The votes come in. There's not that many. They count them and then report the vote count to the higher ups. You have a decentralized network of people counting ballots.
Starting point is 01:21:02 That's why all these other countries do it in a day. Yeah. That night, they're like, we got the full numbers. Yeah. That's why all these other countries do it in a day. That night, they're like, we got the full numbers. It's in. You need to do that. Well, at least it seems like you need to do that because if you let them give you numbers and segments, then you know how many you need to circumvent the outcome you don't want ahead of time. If all the results are decentralized and come in at the same time and you report once they're in, you can't control the outcome.
Starting point is 01:21:24 If you say say give us a few days to go through it now you know where votes are needed to be added it's the number one state too that's why that's why pa you know i don't know shadiness i'm not saying they're doing anything wrong but they're letting people know that it might take days so they might just come in with the old uh well i spent the last uh three election cycles in Allegheny County in Pennsylvania, right? That's Pittsburgh. And it was interesting for many reasons. One, obviously, that's an old school Democratic area, right?
Starting point is 01:21:55 Pennsylvania, they talk about it forming a T with essentially all the states red except for Philly and and pittsburgh and kind of this axis in between yes um harrisburg and cutting down um the t being the red the blue now um what what was interesting there is you know when we were in 16 you could feel this kind of um groundswell these were traditional democrats who were like i want trump Trump, you know, they were feeling it. Right. And it was breaking out all over. You could just, if you talk to the waitress, if you talk to the, to the cop on the street, this is the feeling 2020 middle, middle, I went out there again, kind of knocking on doors, helping the organization and 16, I was working the legal war room for uh the trump campaign um but in in 2020 um totally different thing you know people were cloistered because of uh of um covid not not as big a thing you know
Starting point is 01:22:57 fast forward to 2022 um we were staying at a hotel and there was a group of kind of Republican door knockers and and organizers. And there was one small segment of of Democrats there. It's oddly the same hotel. Well, we're planning election day is the big thing, right? We're all moving out. Make sure these people got out running up to it by election day. The two people who were there were packed up and left. Their work had been done
Starting point is 01:23:26 like they had already sewed up the election by the morning of and they had it all calculated so it's very clear that we were playing checkers out there and they're playing chess and and to think that pennsylvania i i see the numbers now but that doesn't give me the hopium right now because they are very good at innovating at the next level. You're saying that the people that were collecting votes? They had basically done a vote collection scheme and we were doing the door knocking vote day of thing. We were actually going around to, oh, this is a hard R. We just need to make sure that they get out to vote and you'd go you'd go maybe talk to people were ballot harvesting they were
Starting point is 01:24:09 ballot harvesting they had done their harvesting um you know oddly enough i i was kind of riding the circuit um for legal reasons you kind of go around and see where something's developing at a precinct or whatnot and uh you know i was like i want to go to steel mill i want to actually see like you know the flash dance kind of thing where like people the actual thing's still going on so we got to this town believe it or not it's it's fetterman's town right we were driving through fetterman's town the tiniest little town rolled up to a precinct and there was a woman there basically with a clipboard who could tell you whether everybody in town had come or not they basically were vacuuming up the votes and so if you see that
Starting point is 01:24:52 level of organization um and and that was just a little anecdote you know that i personally witnessed um i i would be very wary about pennsylvania i, I went out to Butler, Pennsylvania, where the president was shot. That was the most amazing rally in 2020. It was so awesome. The Osprey helicopters came in there at twilight. Very surreal experience. They're playing Fortunate Son. And it was just these choppers coming in across the setting sun President Trump gave a really a barn raiser of a of a speech that night and
Starting point is 01:25:31 barn burner of a speech and just great enthusiasm right like we we got this and sure enough you know we didn't have it what do you what do you what do you think the plan what do you think democrats shadow campaign plan is this time i think it's the illegal aliens i think that the 20 million or whoever you know the the last election was decided by 70 80 000 among certain states um think about just this the numbers that could get registered through the motor voter law, passed out, signed up for ballots, harvested. My former colleague, Mike Howell, at the Heritage Foundation Oversight Project has done great work on this,
Starting point is 01:26:16 but they showed a real estate condominium apartment complex in suburban Atlanta, basically filled with illegals. You know, I think they measured about 18 percent of people were registered to vote. And what happens then is the election is called for Kamala. Several months later, investigators start pointing out on various podcasts and social media that they've uncovered another batch of 736 votes that came from illegal aliens. And the courts don't care. They say you have no standing. The election's over. We'll just do it next time. Next time. Right. File a suit. What's the motor voter laws?
Starting point is 01:26:56 That was one of the one of the seminal things. I believe it was under Clinton. But basically, when you go to get your driver's license, under federal law, the various states have to make it available for you to register to vote at the same time. So it's check a box. Now, in some cases, the box is already checked for you. But this was a great way of, in theory, getting more people to register to vote. But there's no one way to see whether someone's a citizen and has the right to vote. And that's the problem.
Starting point is 01:27:32 So now you hear these anecdotal stories about clerks at DMV basically signing up everybody. Right now, if you go to Pennsylvania and you're illegal, you can get a driving permit and you can avail yourself of this law. There's illegal immigrants registered to vote in Texas. I mean, it's not just a blue state issue. It's across the board. This is the real threat right now to like clearing out the voting rolls because, you know, North Carolina, the absentee ballots get mailed out two weeks from now, September 6th. And you also have all of these cases where there's illegal immigrants who are likely scheduled to vote. But anytime there's an investigation or anytime like Ken Paxton is trying to bring it up, right?
Starting point is 01:28:19 Or you have another great attorney general in Missouri, Andrew Bailey, right? So anytime it gets brought up, you have the big Democrat foundations going in and suing everybody. And they just bring suit after suit and these injunctions go in. And it's very difficult to get past that. We see that with the trans stuff, you know, like the lawsuits are just rampant. And that's something a passion of mine that I may turn to is really standing up, you know, a public interest firm for the right that is going to really take on a lot of this litigation. You'll have to be the right wings, Mark Elias.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Hey, I'm ready to go to work. You know, my big case was Chevron Ecuador, which if you don't know about that, that was a decades-long saga. But it was with New York City lawyers, plaintiff lawyers, progressives who sued Chevron, which had acquired Texaco for environmental damage down in Ecuador. But essentially what it was, was a faked up lawsuit where they planned to ultimately bring a $27 billion judgment against Chevron and extort them into a settlement. They went to the court down in Ecuador and souped the nuts made up. They hired the judge. They wrote his opinion in Boulder, Colorado in English.
Starting point is 01:29:41 They translated it into Spanish. They passed it off on a zip drive in the middle of the jungle and wanted to basically enforce this against Chevron. I came into the case, they had brought along a documentary film crew to basically film this whole thing and put pressure, develop like a Michael Moore type documentary that would put pressure on Chevron to settle. And what happened was they filmed 600 hours over two years for a two-hour movie. I came in with a crew, and basically we sued for those outtakes, the 598 hours, where they filmed themselves doing all kinds of nefarious things.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Wow. And we were able to basically unravel this massive fraud. That's crazy. But at every juncture, it was such a great learning lesson because one, they were extremely wily and hard to pin down, very resourceful. And they knew at some point the truth would catch up with them. But that was never their game. Their game was to outrun you to as long as possible. That's what the Democrats are doing now. That's exactly their modus operandi. And in the Chevron case, you had a company that was committed to the lawsuit, which had very deep pockets.
Starting point is 01:30:54 But it was not an easy legal case for us to bring. But the reality is that we don't have that compliment right now. We do not have the Mark Elias of the right. And we need that. And until and until we get serious, like, we don't need another TV ad. We need actual competent lawyers being, you know, remunerated for their time and also told that they're going to be indemnified and be taken care of, you know, so we're not having electors dragged off to prison. And so, you know, basically, again, this is why the left has lost their minds about Project 2025,
Starting point is 01:31:30 because we organized it. We actually got together and got rolling in the same direction. We have to do that on the legal front. Yeah, what got a lot of these electors hauled off to prison exactly? You know, it's left-wing uh attorney generals getting elected with concocted legal theories i think um and and just the basic you know it's malicious look it's really it's really really it's actually really simple yeah the left uses the threat of violence and goes and and kidnaps people and locks them in boxes there's nothing else to it you the idea that's a legal theory i think is just a bit too sympathetic to what
Starting point is 01:32:10 they're doing when they when they tell cops to go to someone's house and lock them in a box and the cops go you got it and don't care and there's no law behind it it's effectively just gang warfare what donald trump didn't break any laws. Donald Trump didn't abuse or assault anybody. He didn't defraud any businesses. New York just ordered men with guns to go and drag them into a box. But what's the argument that they made? That's my question more specifically. Like, what was their argument? Yeah, well, they first they start with the with the rhetoric. They frame it as fake electors, right? This is fake. This is a false certification. But like Tim was saying earlier, this is what they did in Hawaii in 1960. This is what they did in, I forget, like 1870s.
Starting point is 01:32:51 You know, the disputed that ended Reconstruction 76. I mean, like this is all the way through American history. It's how you have to do it. There's no other way to do it. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, we have an American history deficit here. And, you know, that's the thing with malicious prosecution. You bring a case that does, like all these Trump cases are fake, right? They don't actually have a legal basis underneath them. But just the machinery of dragging somebody into court, going through that, not only wears them down psychologically and financially, but also gives some credence to the fake allegation in the first place that you're abiding by this process.
Starting point is 01:33:36 This is why I gave the tickets and Ticketmaster is a company. Ticketmaster does not care at all what our dispute is between us over who owes whose money. That makes no sense to them. So when Georgia, for instance, has Democrat and Republican electors, the Democrats win the election. Governor certifies them, sends them to the federal government. The Republicans then say, well, we're in a dispute here. The federal government says, don't care if you don't submit your paperwork by the 14th. You did not submit your paperwork.
Starting point is 01:34:14 There's no coordination and negotiation between two separate legal jurisdictions. So what happens is the Republicans say, OK, fill out the paperwork and submit it. Then if the judge rules in our favor, we inform the government that the actual certification will be the Republicans, not Democrats. That's what they did in Hawaii in 1960. That's the only way you can do it. If the Republicans do not submit the paperwork, then when the court rules, actually the Republicans win, the federal government says, too bad, you didn't submit your paperwork by by the deadline so you didn't submit your paperwork so when the republicans do submit the paperwork pending adjudication the democrats in the state then order police officers to go and with the threat of force and violence against these people arrest them and the paperwork was to
Starting point is 01:35:00 say hold up like the paperwork was filing saying, Michigan delegates go for Trump. They're supposed to do that, but then state attorneys went and arrested them for doing what they were supposed to do? Right, because the idea is that, so here's what happened. So you had electors.
Starting point is 01:35:23 So let's, okay, let's just pick a state. I don't know what the states are, but let's just pick a state like Pennsylvania. So I don't think they did an electors, an alternate electors there, but let's say Pennsylvania. So Pennsylvania was called for Biden. Trump says, and this is hypothetical,
Starting point is 01:35:38 Trump says, let's do a recount, right? So as the recount request is going through the courts, the Trump campaign says, if we get a recount and we are successful and it turns out we won, we're going to need to tell the Electoral College that Pennsylvania goes for Trump. So we're going to need to have electors to say, hey, Electoral College, we're the electors. We go for Trump. Pennsylvania goes for Trump. So essentially what happened was there were two sets of electors, one for Biden, one for Trump. And whoever, whichever candidate was declared the winner of Pennsylvania after this hypothetical recount, those electors would have said, you know, it's us, it's our candidate.
Starting point is 01:36:22 The governor certified the Democrats. The Republicans submit the paperwork because they were in active lawsuits. Yes. If the judges said, wow, the Democrats actually didn't win. They would then inform the federal government that this state is hereby certifying the Republican and disqualifying the Democrat because they would still have to get it in by the deadline. If the Republicans don't submit the electors by the deadline, which I think was December 14th or 16th or something like this, then the federal government says you didn't submit your paperwork. So bye, we already got our electors. This is exactly what happened in 1960. Both sets were submitted. The judge ruled the Democrat actually won, not the Republicans. And so Nixon, as VP, decided without certification,
Starting point is 01:37:06 he would just choose to count the votes for JFK instead. And so this happened in a state, there were two sets of electors decided and the police or the lawyer, the law went after one of the electors. That's happening right now in a bunch of states. They're arresting lawyers too. Arizona, Michigan, you know, and that's's it also leads into what happened on J6, because that was the constitutionally ordained process to basically sort through these alternate slates of electors. That's a process where the when there is dissent that they break into the bicameral houses and actually have, I think it was like two hours of debate. So they were set to be basically arguing about the election, you know, presenting to and fro basically for the next 18 hours or something that day. But for the intrusion into the Capitol that shut that whole process down um we might have seen a different result in the election so that begs the question of who had who had the motive to shut shut that
Starting point is 01:38:11 down and that that's really the important the the the elemental aspect of the feds erection that that transpired that day and to the credit of darren beatt at Revolver News that's really broken a lot of this but you know it's coming to the consciousness that why why was there such an impetus to shut down the events that were going on in Congress. So they they potentially conspiratorially potentially incited their own their own thing so they didn't have to go through the votes uh yeah and even more than yeah exactly the uh i think the reporting came out this week that the pipe bombs you know these supposed pipe bombs that were placed at the dnc and the rnc were ultimate fallbacks for um you know also disrupting the process you can pull that word yeah yeah so um yeah it's there was a good reason a lot of people
Starting point is 01:39:07 had a lot of interest in in in stopping um you know the the process that day and it was not MAGA what happened though after that happened after the whatever the the intrusion into the capital then did they just like declare a martial law across the country and give authority the opportunity to go arrest random electors against? No, each attorney general did it themselves. There's no authority to do it. There's zero authority to do it. There's zero authority to have arrested Trump in any one of these cases. Zero authority. It is it is it is crazy world. Donald Trump was arrested without without due process. He was charged for a crime that lists in the charging documents, quote, another crime. There's literally no crime by
Starting point is 01:39:53 which Trump was charged for. And then they convicted him for nothing in New York. So this literally means that police officers and the government under threat of of force against Trump said, come here or else. And when Trump goes there, it's the guys in uniform with guns that are illegally holding him there. They should all be in prison. And I hope and I pray that each and every one of them goes to prison. I hope Donald Trump is the is the psycho dictator that Democrats claim he's going to be. And as soon as he's president, he says each and every one of these law enforcement officers that arrested the electors and lawyers, you will be indicted on criminal charges for violations of constitutional rights, which is a crime at the federal level. And we will send FBS, we will send law enforcement to your homes and drag you out in front of your children to watch because you are the scumbags burning this country down.
Starting point is 01:40:43 It was a gay man. It's a constitutional law. Constitutional law. But was it okay with the state law? There is no law allowing them to do this. None. They are making it up. Donald Trump's charging documents in the 34 counts say, quote, another crime. There's nothing listed.
Starting point is 01:41:00 They never listed the other crimes. Particularly the electors. Okay. So the electors, the attorney generals. What are they saying? Fraud and obstruction or something? They say fraud. They say, you know, forging documents and stuff like that. They've made up a whole
Starting point is 01:41:13 bunch of charges. It was at the very end when the judge, I believe, was giving the jury instructions. He kind of gave this smorgasbord. Oh, you mean in the New York case? Yeah. Impersonating political public officials, racketeering, forgery, state crimes, fraudulent efforts, reverse election results. It's all fake. So you vote for an elector.
Starting point is 01:41:33 These are electoral slates. These are people running to be the elector of the state. They are candidates. They are nominees, whatever. When the votes come in, the governor certifies which slate will be sent to cast their votes. And then the votes are cast sometime in December. Then the votes are sent to Congress to count. The vice president comes in and counts them. And the only thing that should have happened is that Pence should have said, I'm going to count the ones that were certified by the governors. And in my opinion, if the if the state legislatures filed a dispute and send a letter to the VP saying we are in dispute and we reject the certification by the governor, then the VP has no
Starting point is 01:42:11 choice but to say, I can't count either of these because there's a dispute between the branches of the state. But in this regard, let's just say Mike Pence says we're going to count the certified electors. I'm not going to be involved in whatever else is going on. End of story. All he has then is paperwork filed administratively. That means nothing. And then you ignore it. But there was the appropriate thing to do. They arrested Trump's lawyers. There is no authority. There is none. And I will stress again, we can look at racketeering, fraud, whatever garbled nonsense impersonation. It's ridiculous official, but they are public officials. Well, they're running for to be the electors.
Starting point is 01:42:48 And they're saying, I hereby swear that I am the elector for the Republican. We will be voting for Trump. And it's all because we're waiting for a judge to issue a ruling. And all you have to do in that capacity is just say, no, look, the judge ruled against you. So these are now disqualified. These are void. But thank you for filing. That's it. That's all that happened.
Starting point is 01:43:05 That's all that happened. Why did they arrest Trump's lawyers? In Wisconsin, I think they arrested two of them. In Georgia, they arrested several. Jenna Ellis, I'm not a fan of hers. Why was she criminally charged under RICO in these cases? Not Wisconsin. Real quick, it says here that it's only in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, and Nevada.
Starting point is 01:43:25 No, no, no. Trump's lawyers were recently charged.'m sorry don't want the electors i'm talking i'm saying they charge trump's lawyers yeah oh shit when they when they start arresting trump's lawyers for literally providing constitutionally protected legal service you are well outside the realm of any kind of legal jurisdiction or authority and i will stress again. When it came to the 34 counts in Stormy Daniels case, they said falsification of business records, quote, another crime. When the jury was was was given instructions, the judge said you don't need to be unanimous on what another crime means, which is unconstitutional, unquestionably. Now they're saying that they're going to send send Trump to prison on the 18th of September. The theory is that they're going to stay his imprisonment on bail,
Starting point is 01:44:10 pending appeal. But that way they will say Donald Trump is a convicted felon sentenced to prison and it's fake charges. It's completely fake. There is zero authority. And why aren't we seeing any red states doing the same thing? If the Democrats make up fake authorities and use non-existent statute to charge Trump, where is anyone else to do it to Kamala right now? We're probably hoping that we reverse course rather than jump on the bandwagon. But I think the tactic would be with Trump, it's too much of a hot button issue, emotionally too much of a hot button issue to try and reverse that right now, although it might get reversed.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Reverse what? Reverse course of trying to imprison him for these 34 false counts. But with the electors that were doing their duty and then they got hit with false impersonation of a government official when that was their purpose was to be that alternate slate. Just like Hawaii did in 1960. Yes, sir. That should be overturned. That should be at least investigated and potentially overturned.
Starting point is 01:45:04 You're asking people who are beating you mercilessly to play fair. Well, I'm asking the entire world to take a look at it and make a decision. What's the entire world going to do, invade the United States? No, no, just listen and make noise about it and explain it. Well, here, you know, with New York coming up, this is a, you know, the electors, that's a great injustice that is going to have to get rectified. And we need to provide them the resources to defend themselves right now and talk out against it.
Starting point is 01:45:31 And state attorney generals have to intervene as well as any other interest party. But the RNC obviously should indemnify these folks because many of them actually were campaign workers. You know, these are 70-year-old grandmas and stuff you know it's outrageous but with with the 18th and the sentencing that's the quintessence of election interference the very fact that you're having a sentencing hearing and basically making the the vote for president a referendum on whether or not Donald Trump goes to prison is quintessential election interference. And, you know, but to basically get in front of that, that, you know, we need to go into New York state law and to the higher circuit courts and get a writ of prohibition against
Starting point is 01:46:24 the trial court for doing that it's not going to happen well the supreme court and the federal government is going to have to intervene as their purpose is when the state goes rogue bailey is suing new york for interference supreme court i imagine will do nothing but the the issue is actually right before our eyes donald trump has been falsely sued on sexual assault claims, which are nonsensical, from 30 years ago. 18, Carol 1.
Starting point is 01:46:48 And they passed a law that allowed her to reopen up statute of limitations so she could do it. It makes no sense. The story makes no sense. They claimed business fraud, even though the people he defrauded
Starting point is 01:46:58 said he never defrauded us. He gave us full disclosure. Said, too bad. We're going to say he did anyway. And they're charging him $367 million dollars yep and he's had to pay 100 million now then they criminally charge him for quote another crime this is this is insanity and it was quarterbacked by the biden doj and who quit
Starting point is 01:47:15 his job in the doj to go work for a local prosecutor's office it's the number three in the biden doj who left his job to go and do this suit. He took one of the biggest demotions we've ever seen in the legal system. And it's staring you in the face. The Democrats win. You get an installed Kamala Harris no one voted for. Maybe they vote for her in the general. She has no campaign positions.
Starting point is 01:47:43 The Democrats in New York are using made up fake charges and fake law that doesn't exist to try and arrest their political rival. And what are the Republicans doing? Well, that's what I'm arguing. Paul, like you're saying you go into New York state law and then to investigate what exactly? Well, there's there's mechanisms that they can be appealing right now they um in in at common law you have in actually in this new york state statute what what they call article 78 proceeding which says that the higher court can basically stop the lower court say that they're acting outside of the law and then join them from doing anything further and that's that's pretty
Starting point is 01:48:23 much a slam dunk. Now you could say like Tim saying, look, the whole New York court system is filled with partisans and they're going to not, they're not going to step in front of this, but at least you can go and you can give it a shot because look, New York is the capital of the world, right? This is where people come to have their, um, economy, their economic trade done, but their fallback is because there's a rule of law there. People make billions of dollars on that. The rest of the world is watching this, and New York is going to suffer enormous harm economically
Starting point is 01:48:57 if the court system doesn't work. We're going to go to Super Chat, so smash the Like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com. Click Join Us, become a member to support the show. And you'll get access to that members only call in show coming up in just a few minutes, actually, because we went very long. And I think it was important because this stuff matters. The degree to which this country has fallen as to what's going on with Trump.
Starting point is 01:49:20 We're at the point where a bullet struck the man in the side of the head. So if you want to talk about how crazy things are getting, it's getting crazy. But let's read your super chats. Token Black Guy says, howdy, people. Tim, did you see that? O'Keefe is in disguise. The DNC. I didn't see it. Love it. I didn't see it. Not having a picture. Not having a picture of it. Oh, O'Keefe. I was thinking of Matt Walsh. No, no. Matt Walsh we saw. Okay. They're all getting down. Nice. Brian Madigan says, hey, Tim, did you know Down Under was found guilty of plagiarism? Aussie here. And he says,
Starting point is 01:49:50 Wasn't badmouthing, just pointing out a fact. Wrong! Uh-oh. Sure, you're correct. They were found guilty of plagiarism, but it's clearly BS. The argument was the song Down Under's flute riff sounds too much like some classical song, Kookaburra, children's bs it's
Starting point is 01:50:05 nonsensical and it besmirches the good name of men at work and i reject it outright uh it's nonsense it's utter nonsense uh tim is the number one men at work fan in the world i believe we've got a lot of men at work playing men men and work is the greatest band of this fascinatingly awesome i'm kidding by the way they're actually really great i I told it to Richie, who's Australian, and he was like, they may be the greatest band. And I was like, I'm actually just kidding. They're really good. And he goes, oh, that's blasphemy.
Starting point is 01:50:31 He wanted it. Yeah, he wanted you to mean it. Well, in Australia, they are like... Oh, they're so good. I mean, yeah, because they got big in Australia, but became international sensations. It's a big deal for Australia. They really...
Starting point is 01:50:42 And Network is actually really, really good. They got great stuff. Who could it be now? Come on. Who could it be now? Alright, we'll grab some more. Cason Womble says, just watched Phil rocket out here in Austin, Texas, so I'll catch the show later. Love y'all. Love you too. Shout out Phil. Shout out to Phil
Starting point is 01:50:59 Labonte. Thank you. Shane Parr says, the Trump team needs a TV ad campaign targeting boomer Democrats featuring RFK Jr. and Tulsi to talk about how this is no longer the party of JFK. Agreed. I love that.
Starting point is 01:51:11 Yeah, vote Republican, not vote Trump. Vote Republican. That's an interesting concept. Yeah. David Glass says, I knew you would return to the keto family after a few months of carbs.
Starting point is 01:51:20 I recommend guest Dr. Kenberry and Homestead Howe, PhD Healing Humanity. Indeed. Yeah. I just, you know, you know, what really got me is I went out to eat and we got table side guacamole and a big old bowl of sour cream. And I was like, honestly, I just really enjoy olive oil. We went to Barcelona in Reston, Virginia. It's one of my favorite restaurants. You guys shout out if you're in the area, go to Barcelona. I think iton, Virginia. It's one of my favorite restaurants. You guys, shout out if you're in the area. Go to Barcelona.
Starting point is 01:51:46 I think it's Wine Bar. It's a tapas restaurant. And I'm just like, olive oil, avocados, sour cream. I don't care for the sugar. Why am I eating carbs at all? I'm happy doing the ketogenic stuff. So I'm just, today I had a bunch of chicken and guacamole. So good.
Starting point is 01:52:02 That's good. I'm going to buy a bunch of avocados now. Avocados are based. Tim, they're based'm going to buy a bunch of avocados now. Avocados are based. I always have so many avocados. I don't know if I'm going to say this, but I shared a super chat for myself from October 25th, 2021. It was after the first membership meetup, the only time, and a lot of comments I got. Because you were looking, you know. A little thick.
Starting point is 01:52:21 A little thick. A little thick. But yeah, it was fun. It was 2021, you know, but now you're not. See, that little thick a little thick but uh yeah yeah it was fun it's a 2021 you know but now you're not see that's the thing i was skating and i was just like i don't know i didn't care i didn't think about it and then uh after covet i was like i'll do keto and then just boom 30 pounds gone like within a couple months it was crazy i wasn't even thinking about it and uh i just feel better doing doing keto to be fair at the time when I started doing keto I was eating a lot of just like salami and cheese dip very unhealthy now I'm having eggs with avocado olive oil and you know spinach
Starting point is 01:52:53 cutting out the vegetable oils too that is incredible yeah the Cito's are gone I think we're gonna end up having a doctor on culture war the head leading seed oil nice expert on earth Kate Kate Shanahan I think yeah are we doing that yeah we should definitely yeah yeah and we're getting protein bars made because Mark Loebliner was here. That's going through. Oh, he sent me a picture already. He's like, these are awesome. It's their, their protein peanut butter, keto, low sugar. So amped. Yeah. And he said they taste super good. Just the peanut butter bars themselves. And I'm like, that's what I'm talking about. But then we're going to have our own protein bars.
Starting point is 01:53:26 And I told him, I was like, I don't know. I mean, we could sell them, but honestly, I would just love to have hundreds of them here that we could eat because we're skating all the time. And he was like, bro, we're going to get it done. Is he going to call it the Tim bar like he said? Tim bar? No. Like a tree. Tim bar.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Right, right. Todd B says, going to say the dirty word civil war. Tim, I pity the person in this country if said person was to attack Trump while he stepped away from bulletproof glass to check and help on someone. I mean, that would be nuts. But there was someone there with weapons. Newsweek reported it. That could be anything. That could be just a right wing dude who has weapons in his vehicle.
Starting point is 01:54:00 Some any person. It's true. OMG Puppy says, bogus job numbers next you'll be telling me that crime has gotten worse this is again i'll stress this because buddha judge was on fox and friends and he was like crime went up under donald trump i mean i don't think your viewers know that and i'm like yeah he's the president of the federal you know federal government so uh what were your governors doing yeah the crime was in red was in and he was like well what about mississippi and it's like dude yes, and he was like, well, what about Mississippi? And it's like, dude, yes,
Starting point is 01:54:26 fine. And we criticize all of them, but what about New York, Chicago, LA, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle? Come on, don't give me that. Minnesota, or I should say Minneapolis. That's like my dad. He was so mad that Trump did not call in the National Guard during the Summer of Love. He's a Democrat. He's like, why didn't he do that?
Starting point is 01:54:41 Because the world's burned down. He's like, Raymond, what's up with Trump? Why didn't he do it? I'm like, Dad, you know, Amendment 10, 10th Amendment. You can't do it. You just can't do what you want in states. Yep. Or a republic. You can invoke the Insurrection Act and call the National Guard to enforce the law when the law is not being enforced by the local jurisdictions. So is that Pete Buttigieg's argument?
Starting point is 01:55:02 Crime went up under Trump. It's like, sure, Trump should have sent in the National Guard to the Democrat states that refused. Is that what you're arguing? Because I'm more than happy to entertain that argument the next time Trump gets in. Hey, man, me too. All right. Corowag says Gen Z has been fighting this job market even the last two years of Trump's administration. The way they report jobs and unemployment is inaccurate.
Starting point is 01:55:23 Why we need an overhaul of the reports and the government that we will uh forever never get yeah because they remove you from the stats if you stop looking for work i believe right so unemployment numbers go down if people give up after a certain period of time oh yeah okay yep what do you do on the side yeah because if you drop off the unemployment rolls, then you no longer count as unemployed. Ryan Mikesell says we can use Ian's weather control vibes to sway votes. That might be possible. Ian will be the vibrarian. I don't know if I want to manipulate nature too much
Starting point is 01:55:56 because the earth kind of knows what it needs. I'm just imagining Luke and Ian standing outside and Ian's doing this weird pose and Luke's going, whoa. And everyone else is like, those guys are nuts. He's like the avatar. You don't even need to move. You just focus.
Starting point is 01:56:11 I love it. Let's grab a couple more super chats here. Let's see what we got going on. Kiabo Bandit says, the most genius play the Dems could do is submit around one million fake bouts for Trump and then actually do a full audit and realize Trump stole the election, then install Kamala 5D chess. That was actually one of our members
Starting point is 01:56:29 last night on the Members Only show who mentioned that her fear was the shadow campaign will be they actually stuff bouts for Trump. That way, when Trump wins, because so they expect Trump to win, they're going to catch a certain number of fake votes. Then when Trump wins, they can say, whoa, we just found a whole bunch of fraudulent votes from Trump. And then in Congress, the Democrats refuse to certify, saying the amount of fraudulent votes for Trump that have been found may not overturn the results entirely. But there's enough of them to indicate it may be the case this election is not correct and therefore we will not certify but granted haven't democrats rejected every republican certification going back 30 years yeah so they rejected the trump certification in 2016 yeah like jamie raskin freaked out about it because he's an insurrectionist yeah and a white supremacist
Starting point is 01:57:20 both of those things amen you know how he's you know that he's a white supremacist. Both of those things. Amen. You know how he's, you know that he's a white supremacist is because he's white. Well, he celebrates it. Yeah. Yeah. I watched Matt Walsh's movie the other day. I got a screener. Oh, yeah. And I really enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:57:35 It's good? Yeah. I thought it was great. I think they got something with this Matt Walsh, like, mockumentary style thing. I think it's really fun. Two for two. He's going to be two for two, I think. I mean, what did they make?
Starting point is 01:57:47 Like $100 million off the first one? And this one's going to be like a real theatrical release, which is cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's it called? Am I racist? Am I racist? Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:57:57 And it's all about how he's doing the work. I mean, he's going on the journey, man. He's like really doing it. Wow. He was even with Maya Angelou, right? He was like a... No, Robin. He's like really doing it. He was even with Maya, Maya, Maya, Angela, right? He was like, uh, Robin, Robin, the Angela. I Angela's a musician. She's awesome.
Starting point is 01:58:10 But he like, she fooled him. He fooled her. That's going to be great. Yeah. And there's a, there's a clip where she's like, we got to be careful. Cause you never know. And he's like, right. I can't believe he pulled it off.
Starting point is 01:58:22 These people are so dumb. They didn't even know who he was. He's wearing like a man, but he just, normally he wears like a flannel and some jeans, right? He's wearing like a man bun wig and a tweed jacket and skinny jeans and they don't recognize him. Because, and what you can tell from that is they're just so surface. Yep. They look at your appearance and they assume they know everything about you. And that's why they're opposed.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Or that they don't do any research. Yeah. How do they not know who Matt Walsh is? He's got three million followers on X. And he goes in there with his real name. They hate him. They should know what he looks like. I mean, he gives his proper name.
Starting point is 01:58:54 Yeah. It's crazy. That's how bad they are. That's how bad they are. All right. KCB says, Ian, you said you would vote for RFK just to not upset anyone. That is what is wrong with this whole world. Be brave with your voice. No, I said I would vote for rfk just not to not upset anyone that is what is wrong with this whole world be brave with your voice no i said i would vote for rfk because i believe in him um at least that's why i would have voted for him but i i said that i wouldn't vote for trump in the
Starting point is 01:59:13 past because i didn't want to upset half of my friends and family and because i feel like i can bring out your friends that's kind of the truth people that refuse to talk to you because of politics are pretty much lost or at least just because someone's lost doesn't mean they're never going to find their way again. But at this moment, they tend to be seem to be lost. Well, the weird thing is that people can decide that they hate you because they disagree with you about some stuff. Politics didn't used to be such such the huge deal that it is now. And now it like divides families, it breaks up relationships. You know, it pits parents against child. It kills friendships. And it doesn't make any
Starting point is 01:59:48 sense. That's not what politics should be. You should be able to have different opinions from your friends and still be chill. I think a lot about Ben Franklin, who basically lost connection with his son because his son remained a loyalist to the king. Oh yeah, that's right. Freaking red coat. Sorry, Tim. Let's go.
Starting point is 02:00:07 Michelle Campbell says, Tim, crazy folks have got to stop going so hard on moderates we need them also tim the officers should face charges said with love what's what's wrong with what i said at all how are those in any way contradictory going after moderates these are regular people who are sitting around watching sporting events and then you've got trump supporters insulting and attacking them. And they're like, why am I being attacked by Trump supporters? These people are crazy. I'm talking about police officers who arrested people illegally and unconstitutionally being criminally charged for committing crimes.
Starting point is 02:00:37 Are you saying like the cops are all the moderates are trying to get out? I don't know. Does she agree with you? No, she's saying I said crazy folks have got to stop going after moderates. We need them. And I also then said officers should face charges. Maybe she's saying the way you were saying it was angry and that will put people off if they're not political. It has nothing to do with my point.
Starting point is 02:00:53 I don't want to be part of that angry guys crowd. That's a totally different point. The first point is when Trump's diehards start attacking Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan then on his show says, ah, it's all tribalism. I don't want to be involved in it anymore. And they've just made sure to push away one of the biggest podcasts, if not the biggest with moderates. And then and the response from these guys on X was to gloat over doing it.
Starting point is 02:01:16 Can we can we call them Trump's diehards or just like online personality? You know, some of those people are just they just themselves paid by the campaign, too, and they're just systematically going through it. Are these Kamala employees? No, I think some of them might be on the Trump campaign. They're attacking you even. This meeting team goes out and just kind of goes through and finds people. If Trump loses, it's going to be for this reason.
Starting point is 02:01:46 Yeah. It's his to lose. It has to be additive. You base plus, you add people, you have to build a coalition. And it's exactly the people at the margin that you're working for. That's why I think we all can have a great sense of optimism with Friday's announcement. I like it. I like that.
Starting point is 02:02:04 Someone in the chat said, Ben says, who cares about Rogan? I think about 10 million viewers per episode. have a great sense of optimism with friday's announcement i like it i like that someone in the chat said ben says who cares about rogan i think about 10 million viewers per episode no and are mostly moderate some left-leaning libertarian types who support rfk jr how about you throw them all the way and tell them to go for kamala and then you lose and then you're going to go what did i lose okay well you know there you go and then whoever they to, like the 10 million they talk to other people, they all talk about it. It all gets around. It's more than 10 million. It's like Joe Rogan is hanging out on your front porch, and he's like, I don't know what they're doing in the back.
Starting point is 02:02:35 They're making a lot of noise, something about Trump. You should be going like, hey, man, come on, man. Come hang out with us. We got beers. We got drinks. We're watching UFC. Instead, they're like, get him out of here. We're watching UFC. Instead, they're like, get him out of here.
Starting point is 02:02:46 He's a loser. And then he's like, okay, I'll stay out. And he's got 10 million viewers. And he's got his 10 friends that are going to come over to watch the game. But like, oh, wait,
Starting point is 02:02:53 apparently he's a bad person. So they're not coming. No, he's going to go into Madison Square Garden for a sold out event to, you know, what, 10, 20,000 people. And he's going to say,
Starting point is 02:03:01 Democrats are nuts. Now he's going to go up and say Republicans and Democrats are nuts. Congratulations. You've just sabotaged yourself with and say Republicans and Democrats are nuts. Congratulations. You've just sabotaged yourself with moderates. Nice job, Cat Turd. We're going to go to the members only show.
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