Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL#203 - Far Leftist CHARGED For Participation in Capitol Riot w/Jorge Ventura & Sagnik Basu

Episode Date: January 15, 2021

Tim, Luke, and Lydia host guests reporter Jorge Ventura and producer Sagnik Basu to discuss the recent new of John Sullivan's interview with CNN, the Veritas Twitter expose, Baked Alaska's shenanigans, the teen daughter who turned in her whole family for clout, and finally, the Daily Caller's documentary about small business owners struggling to make it in California.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So we knew that there was at least one Black Lives Matter activist who was a part of the storming the Capitol. And now we get a lot more information coming out on this guy, John Sullivan, who apparently now in leaked videos, he's cheering. We did it. We did it. He's with some other reporter or videographer. They actually got invited onto CNN to talk about what's happening.

And I suppose they were claiming that they were just there in the capacity of filming. So Anderson Cooper has them on and tell us what's happened. You've also got other news outlets that interviewed this guy. Now it turns out after he's been arrested, I think he's been arrested, he's been charged. There's apparently evidence of him screaming like, I got a knife, let's go. And like really getting into it and people are being put off by it. Like he's like, do it, do it, let's go. And we'll read some of those quotes.

But this guy was propped up by CNN. off by it. Like he's like, do it, do it. Let's go. And we'll read some of his quotes. But this guy was propped up by CNN. I love it. My friends, I really have to recommend the latest Freedom Tunes video because it's so good. It's basically a right wing and left wing pundit screaming whenever a riot happens on the other side. But I know it's not entirely fair, but it is still funny. Freedom Tunes is great.

We have them on the show sometimes. But anyway, the point is, here's this leftist being allowed to go on CNN and talk about all this stuff. He was doing it. He was one of the people leading the charge and encouraging people to do it. And then the media says there were no, you know, leftists. Well, what they'll do is they'll say no Antifa. Well, the guy's not technically Antifa because they play it both ways and say there is no Antifa. And then when it comes down to us colloquially calling someone Antifa, they'll say he's not part of Antifa. Yeah, OK, we get it. Whatever fits their narrative.

Now we can see it. We got a lot more, though. We got leaked video from Project Veritas of Jack Dorsey in his rather drone way saying there's going to be a lot more after this, a lot more censorship. So basically him talking about banning Trump and how more is coming. And there's some creepy stuff happening. You know, we had this teenage girl snitched on her parents. And this is like totally 1984 level stuff

that we're starting to see. So kind of depressing. Maybe we'll talk about aliens because we have that pulled up as well. But then we have some, you know, I don't know how relevant this news is to everybody, but considering we're talking about the Capitol and we're talking about who's

getting arrested, we have a story on this personality who worked for BuzzFeed. His name's Baked Alaska. Many of you probably know him. He jumped bail to go to D.C. and then he skipped his court appearance afterwards and apparently he's missing. So he's been banned from all these platforms, which

I mean, he was banned a long time ago. And now apparently his lawyers have no idea where he is and the court's like, what's happened to this guy? So from BuzzFeed to working with Milo Yiannopoulos, storming the Capitol, and now being, I guess, a fugitive from the law is a crazy story. Considering he worked for BuzzFeed, I think it's particularly relevant because we'll talk a bit about this. But before we get into everything, let's introduce some of our guests. We got, once again, one and only Jorge Ventura is chilling. Yeah, Jorge Ventura, field correspondent with The Daily Caller. Glad to be back and just talk about all the madness going on in our country.

Right on. Yeah, you also did a documentary on the businesses that have been destroyed in California. Yeah, so we got a documentary on the restaurant industry just basically really struggling against big government, no help from the state. And me and Sagnik here actually got to be on the ground and really tell those stories. So I know we'll get a little bit more into that, but really important story. And we're just trying to focus on the average American again. Yeah, we're going to have fun ragging on California. I've got an article from a while back talking about all the failed policies of California, which we'll add into your experiences. But producer from The Daily Caller, Sagnik, you want to introduce yourself? Sagnik Basu, and I'm the producer for the producer for daily caller i decided to spend my holidays you know not being

in the dc bubble and walking like filming actual people in california who like run local businesses and like see what's up with them and jorge has been like doing an amazing job on the field covering all these stories so i just wanted to fly over change coast for a while and like you know put put like shed actual light on these people so we'll get into all of it but just before we do california failed state yes failing for sure definitely failing definitely going downwards i mean like people do not trust like the people who like rule over them and like they can actually sense the fact that there's like an like aristocratic like indifference from the people like from the governors they like realize

that they don't really care and like these lockdown like measures like not only like make no sense like banning outdoor dining but on top of that when they see their governors like dining outside and stuff like that there's like a different like there's like the hate just goes to a different dimension yeah and of course we got the one and only lucard caskey you know you know some people say skid row is the new main street and i think it makes totally perfect sense hi i'm an independent journalist that produces content on the youtube channel we are change i am also a very very humble t-shirt vendor on we are change.org forward slash you always got some crazy shit on what is this

one this one celebrates my in past emancipation from New York as I left it the New York state flag but edited towards my kind of understanding of it and it says F this place and it has two of the people that are usually there running away as I moved away from New York City and I will never come back to that

family friendly show very bad place of course we got Sarpatch Lids pressing all the buttons. I am here in the corner pushing buttons. It's all good. Right on.

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We will have probably our first members-only post coming up probably tomorrow. And it's going to be after we wrap up here. We've got some friends.

We're going to hang out. And it's probably going to be a bit ridiculous. So that'll be up for everybody who becomes a member. We really need this. The reason I'm pushing so hard for this is because as many of you may be aware, maybe not, Facebook recently terminated access to monetization for me. I've never cared for Facebook or relied on it heavily at all. And they've never actually paid me anything anyway, but it's the principle of the matter. I violated no rules and they stripped me out of the program why i reported on what happened at the capitol

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When you click that, you'll be brought to a store where there now is a T-shirt which reads, I am a gorilla. I know everybody really wanted it. The chat was just filled with people posting gorilla emojis nonstop for months. It's been months now, hasn't it? It has. It's been months since Alex Jones came here and told everyone that he was a gorilla. And everybody really wanted the shirt. Or just this was the meme i made the shirt it is the fastest selling shirt we've ever put up it's crazy so we're going to do a special edition very

soon of him wearing a tinfoil hat that will only be available for like one week and then we're going to take it down so definitely go to timps.com you go to shop if you want to buy the i am a gorilla t-shirt but let's talk about this first story. And what's what's interesting about this is CNN platforming these people. How about that? Daily Caller reports feds charge left wing activists who filmed shooting of Trump supporter at Capitol. They say federal prosecutors on Thursday announced charges against John Sullivan, a self-described left wing activist who recorded the fatal police shooting of a Trump supporter inside the U.S. Capitol last week. Sullivan, the founder of a group called Insurgents USA, which formed in the aftermath of the death of George Floyd, is charged with illegally entering the Capitol,

civil disorder, and violent or disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds. Sullivan faces separate charges for rioting and criminal mischief in connection with an incident in Provo, Utah, on June 30th, where a person was shot and injured during a protest against police brutality. For those that are familiar, a car was driving down the road and some Black Lives Matter dude runs up and just shoots him for no reason. Crazy stuff. He was one of the organizers. They say an FBI affidavit issued against Sullivan on Thursday cites comments he made on video

he recorded during the Capitol breach. Sullivan told FBI agents as well as members of the media that he showed up at the Capitol to document the activities of Trump supporters who were protesting the results of the presidential election. But the FBI affidavit indicates Sullivan was acting more as an active participant in the riots than as a journalist. Here's the best part. Here's what I want to show. You got this clip right here. Mike Cernovich tweets this out. I can't stop laughing. Sorry.

I know it's all a scared time, but this is just too much. You have this image of Anderson Cooper bringing these people on his show to ask them about what's going on. It's interesting. I was told the people who stormed that building were domestic terrorists. CNN is putting these domestic terrorists on their TV to espouse their deranged views. That's incredible. From these quotes, it gets really interesting.

Apparently, he said, let me see. I'll read this one. He said, quote, there are so many people. Let's go. This S is ours. F yeah. He has heard saying in video.'ll read this one. He said, quote, There are so many people. Let's go. This S is ours. F. Yeah. He has heard saying in video. We accomplished this.

This S. We did this together. F. Yeah. We are all part of the history. This history. Let's burn this S down. These are quotes from the dude that CNN had on TV. He was filmed as a Capitol police officer shot Trump supporter Ashley Babbitt as she attempted to enter the barricaded section.

Now, there's another interview that was put up by the Epoch Times where one reporter said he kept saying over and over again, she's dead. And there were people saying, no, no, we can save her. We can save her. And he goes, no, she's dead. And so what she was saying, this journalist, is that she thinks he was trying to enrage the Trump supporters so that they would take out some action like this would be a catalyst or something.

In an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper, hours after the fatal shooting, Sullivan acknowledged he was not a Trump supporter, but denied instigating the rioters who stormed the Capitol. I don't want to see people get hurt unnecessarily, he told Cooper. Some Trump supporters have pointed to Sullivan's presence in the Capitol to claim that left-wing activists have served as agent provocateurs egging on Trump supporters to break into the Capitol and commit violence. I think that's confirmed at this point.

And CNN did no vetting and put this guy on TV. Bravo. Now, I'll be real with all you guys. I'm actually fine with him being on the TV show, him being interviewed. If you've got someone who's a participant, journalists should interview them. Why did you do it? What's happening? The problem?

They didn't vet this guy. He clearly lied. He was instigating. He was a part of it. I've even seen a photo. I don't know if it was actually from the event, but it's like, it looks like it's him wearing a Trump hat. And he's talking about how he's infiltrating. And he's going to, he's going to play a role. It seems like maybe this dude's real intent was to rile up Trump supporters so that they would be falsely accused or not falsely accused but that's so that they would do something really bad and then boom right there on tv sure enough he goes on cnn and then what does he say oh yeah look at look at everything they were doing it's not not us yeah i i watched that interview and it's just funny now that we're talking about it's like cnn interviewed him like if he was actually like a journalist for a media

company it was like it's like cnn if you want a reporter's perspective on the ground there's tons of you know ground reporters that were on the ground you could have grabbed someone from the ap from the reuters anywhere i gotta i gotta i gotta i gotta say something i gotta say something they took one of the people they claim as a domestic terrorist they keep saying right they put him on tv with this woman now this woman there's a video where she's like we did it we. And he goes, this is going to be the best film you've ever made. And they're like, yeah. And she goes, are you recording this? It was all deleted. I'll delete it. He's clearly egging them on. CNN says he was there in a doc in the capacity to document sitting across from us over on a beanbag is Richie McGinnis was chilling. And the New York Times called him a rioter who punched the window. And Richie's a journalist.

You guys are journalists working for a news organization with press credentials for the Capitol building. What do we get? The New York Times falsely calls Richie a rioter who punched the glass. Never even happened. They just make it up. What do they do? They make it up.

They said, oh, this guy punched the window. And they're like, just publish it. And then this guy who's actually there saying, yes, let's do this. Burn it down. CNN's like, interesting. From a videographer and photographer. This is what we have. You know what, man? Life is parody. It's a joke, huh? It definitely highlights how horrible the mainstream media is, but also a lot of questions about what actually happened there. Of course, a lot of people are going to be espousing their theories, but it's also important to note that Ford Fisher just found a Twitter thread about this guy from allegedly left-wing people in Seattle from November of last year, talking about how people in the activist community

in Seattle think that he might be an infiltrator or an agent provocateur. Those are the exact words from a thread going all the way back in November, specifically about this same John Sullivan individual. Who is this guy? So I got a thread from Max Blumenthal. Now, Max is a leftist, and he goes through this big thread about this guy, John Sullivan, saying that he was egging things on as it was happening.

He says now he's at Exhibit A in right wing claims that Antifa instigated the riot. But I think this is where the nuance comes in. I mean, this dude, John Sullivan, was rejected by Black Lives Matter, was rejected by even Antifa in Seattle. And here he is on the ground at the Capitol pretending to be a Trump supporter or what? Pretending to be a journalist. So this is weird. Maybe it really just comes down to some crazy crackpot instigator who wants to watch the world burn. Maybe he's actually a leftist. He's certainly not a Trump supporter. I mean, especially, but it could be that he's a leftist

who he organized, you know, this, this, this Provo protest for Black Lives Matter. Yeah, maybe he might be aggressive and he may be a provocateur, but it definitely seems like he's a leftist. Yeah, and it was odd too because I was even watching some news from Utah. Their local news stations also were interviewing John like if he was a field correspondent for someone. So this whole thing is just odd how it happened. But it's kind of funny because it's like us at The Daily Caller. field correspondent for someone so this whole thing is just odd how it happened but you know it's kind of funny because it's like us had the daily call we've been covering riots the whole summer and uh cnn never never hit us up for an interview and you know want to know our perspective

from the ground the funny thing is when the new york times labeled richie a rioter the correction they put out said what do they say a right wing outlet or something a right wing daily call yeah a right wing outlet like that's the that's the most most bothersome part it's like not only do you like not concede the fact that you guys were wrong and like misleading and like potentially putting someone else's reputation in like life words of harm like the correction you run is like making sure that he's more damaged by telling that oh a right-wing reporter was inside the capital you know what that means why don't they say left-wing reporter for Jim Acosta? Yeah, right, right, right.

With credentials. They could have just said, we made a mistake, it was a journalist. The worst part is, it's not like they do not know who Richie McGinnis is. They used their reporting for Kenosha, which was invaluable to most extent. No, no, it shows they did no groundwork. They didn't Google search.

They didn't ask who this guy was. They just said, it's a writer. That's the problem with mainstream media. They are so married to their narrative. It doesn't really matter what comes in weight. Well, they're so married to the narrative

that they'll put one of the people who stormed the Capitol and cheered it on, on the news, as a journalist. And then the New York Times will call the journalist a rioter. And you know what's the best part of it, Tim? Is is not gonna even update a story like hey guys we just interviewed a rioter we just found out this is the charge

they won't even update everything he said was probably wrong but this is important according to the fbi the initial reports that i'm seeing right now this john sullivan allegedly told the police officers to stand down in the speaker's lobby and then he quote agitated the crowd to attack the doors and windows when he filmed at the moment when ashley babbitt was shot he told the cops to stand down this is according uh yeah yeah according to some initial reports i'm seeing here i wasn't able to verify this is allegedly according to the fbi i need a few more minutes to kind of fact check this uh i'll send you the link right now there's a justice.gov document that i will okay here we go uh in the fbi affidavit they say several times during the video sullivan encounters law enforcement officers who are trying to prevent further advancement through the building by those who

entered unlawfully in at least two encounters sullivan can be heard on video arguing with officers telling them to stand down so that they do not get hurt among other things sullivan can be heard telling officers, you are putting yourself in harm's way. The people have spoken, and there are too many people. You've got to stand down. The people out there that tried to do that as they got hurt, I saw it.

I'm caring about you. What's wrong with that? And that's when Ashley Babbitt was shot and killed. That's another important aspect here, because he's inciting at the exact moment where it was someone's the worst scenario that unfolded that could have gone very much more haywire a lot more people could have got hurt and we're extremely extremely lucky that that situation just led to one death because it because it could have easily that was isolated they were lucky about it it could have easily led to a whole massacre and a whole disaster that luckily didn't happen.

I think this guy is just like the Joker. I don't think he really cares about much. I mean, reading about him, the left is like, nah, dude, look at this guy. And I'm kind of like, I'm seeing what they're saying. He just wants chaos. Yeah, exactly. He wants to watch the world burn. That's his thing.

What is going on? There's a cat running around going crazy. I'm sorry. I tried. The cat came in here and started running around going nuts. I've got to throw her out. Anyway, back to the important news. This is the bonus here and started running around going nuts. Anyway, back to the important news.

This is the bonus content you've all been waiting for. Mr. John Saul. He's just there to document, guys. He's just there to document. She's doing her job. So what was going on? We're distracted by a cat. Richie's now crawling around. Richie, you can stand up and get the cat.

It's fine. There we go. The FBI. Richie is now crawling around. Richie, you can stand up and get the cat. It's fine. Boom. Cat's out. Okay, good. There we go. But now, Tim, we're getting a little bit more information on some of the arrests that are coming out. I believe we had like two Virginia state officers involved. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There were some. Apparently, some cops were hiding them. One cop put on a MAGA hat and told them where to go. That's insane. Yeah. He's under investigation. them one cop put on a maga hat and told them where to go that's insane yeah so this is an investigation so when i hear about you know they're locking down dc like 20 000 national guard or whatever and they're going to shut down the national mall i think there's legit like threats because this is this stuff that's happening with the sixth electoral college

that was trump being like let's go peacefully march i imagine there's actual people who are fired up and crazy, and the 6th wasn't their day. So I'm hoping they keep their security tight and we get through this peacefully. Another thing to really consider here was that there was a lot of arrests made of military personnel. So that's another huge factor here. And we had that letter that we talked about in yesterday's podcast

about the military sending out notices that it was Joe Biden that won the election. It's not a contested election. And now there's even a photo going around with one of the soldiers laying down and reading Atlas Shrugged inside of the Capitol. That's getting the rounds on social media. And people are betting how long it's going to take for this soldier to be kicked out of the Capitol as there's Congress members demanding that the military there are vetted to make sure that they don't believe in Donald Trump and or our right wingers. He read Atlas Shrugged. That confirms it. He's far right.

Somebody tweeted. There's a viral tweet. It was on Reddit, too. It said it says far right. It shows Kyle Rittenhouse. And then it says right. And it shows Nancy Pelosi. And it says center. It's AOC. Oh, my God. That was the dumbest thingittenhouse. And then it says right, and it shows Nancy Pelosi. And it says center, and it's AOC.

Oh, my God. That was the dumbest thing ever. Then it says left, and it says leadership not found. And they were like, the Overton window has shifted so far to the right that there is no left leadership in this country. What? And it's like, bro, if you think AOC is a centrist, you need to turn the internet off. You need to just go outside for a couple days and not go online not read the news and just like you know do some that's what that's

what goes to show like how much power the left has over the media it's like they have been able to shift the overton overton window so efficiently and without people like noticing it all like they do it so gradually and it becomes like risky to say like normal things which people used to believe in like two years ago so here's the thing the reason why this guy doesn't get it the reason why there's no in his mind left leadership no is because if you actually realign the overton window properly you can't go further left than ocasio-cortez exactly i was gonna say now you can you can argue authoritarianism libertarianism you can you can argue her policies aren't effective enough or she's not an effective leader but But she's a literal socialist, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America.

So let's just do this. If we're talking about the economic scale left versus right, she's a socialist. Socialism is literally the far left end of the spectrum, whereas laissez-faire capitalism is the far right. If she was like a social democrat like Denmark where you have a capitalist system but a large welfare state, you could argue she's just a leftist. No, she's far left. And I'm not saying that disparagingly. She is. If you want to talk culturally left versus right, which is far left would be progressive and far right would be traditionalist.

AOC is far, far left. Yeah. Like intersectional proposing bills on far left, ultra woke, ultra progressivism. I don't want to pretend like she's the furthest left possible because there's probably an argument there about what constitutes as far left as you can go.

But when you're a socialist who is ultra woke, you've got the cultural spectrum and the economic spectrum. And considering where she stands relative to everyone else in the country, she's probably the furthest left politician we actually have in office well i was gonna say tim do you think that that that picture came from because i know right now the the progressive movement of the democratic party they're really actually upset with like the with the squad

because they didn't do like the force of the vote on the medicare for all right you think that's that's an issue because i know i'm actually seeing like you know obviously like jimmy dore and other progressives now come out and say aocOC is actually not even one of us. You know, she's now part of the establishment. So do you think that's where it's coming from? What's your thoughts on that? You can argue that she's an ineffective leader. Right.

You know, she says she wants Medicare for all, but this is not the way to go. But she won't force a vote. She won't even put the pressure on her. But then the question is, her being far left is a question of what she believes and advocates for. Just because she was like, my strategy is different, doesn't mean she's not far left is a question of what she believes and advocates for just because she was like my strategy is different doesn't mean she's not far left so there are people who try to argue she's not really a leftist that she's a careerist and it's exemplified by the fact that she voted

for pelosi and refused to stand up and i'm like dude if a guy came out and advocated for fascism but then voted for republicans you'd still call him a fascist you know what i mean you'd be like the guy's clearly a fascist. She's clearly a socialist. She's clearly far left. She just supports Democrats as a means to an end. If we could have a political scale, I wish it could be if you believe in freedom or if you're an authoritarian. And those are the biggest ones, because when you look at AOC, she's talking about putting

Trump supporters on list. She's calling for the banning of Parler. She's calling for the reigning in of media and the media environment. That's total totalitarian, big government. And to me, the most important spectrum that gets overshadowed is if you believe in freedom or if you believe in total government. And she, in my opinion, believes in total government. Well, so that's the thing, right? If you look at someone like her, she's an authoritarian.

They'll tell you she's not. But she's on the right side of the aisle. That's why media doesn't distinguish between that. She's on the left-hand side. She's on authoritarian. Yeah. They'll tell you she's not. But she's on the right side of the aisle. That's why media doesn't distinguish between that. She's on the left inside. She's on the left. But from her perspective, she thinks that locking down Trump supporters or anyone who has walked in that government is okay. And the media allows that only because she's advocating that from the left. So authoritarianism doesn't matter because she's advocating it from

the left inside of the aisle and well and so i think the left fundamentally many of these younger leftists don't understand what authoritarianism means versus libertarianism freedom versus authority the hierarchical control versus the decentralized you know system aoc is definitely on the authoritarian scale and so is bernie sand for that matter. But they always show you this political compass that shows Bernie and AOC and like libertarian left. And I'm like, no. You can't advocate for banning private insurance and call that libertarian. You can argue for voting for a cooperative system. Like if you were to say, you know, even if you were to argue for universal health care, there's still an authority element in that.

I wouldn't necessarily argue it's overly authoritarian. But when you follow it up with, and then we're going to take away from you, now you're in the authoritarian spectrum. You're taking from people and then you're – Distributing it. Well, so it's a combination of the two, right? If you get universal healthcare, I would argue there's a path to that that is not authoritarian. It's very, very difficult because you're taking people's resources. You're by force, essentially. But if it's through a democratic process and a vote, then it's not authoritarian, but it's

getting close to the line. Exactly. Then coming afterwards and saying we want to ban what you have now. Okay, that's definitely the authority saying, I know what's better for you and you're not allowed to choose. That's where you possibly are. And the metric for that is like if the means to your end involves government power, the way you're doing it is probably authoritarian. Well, they won't admit it, though. And that's why it's funny you see someone like Jimmy Dore. Jimmy Dore is libertarian left. And he wants universal health care, which is a cooperative system.

And he wants them to challenge the machine the powers the establishment he wants to challenge the authority system to to and you know his perspective force the authority to relinquish the power and then give it to the lower classes that's like how the left often views what they're doing i don't want to speak for jimmy i really respect the guy i think he's a good dude i was gonna say but i mean is aoc does she even have any power in washington because you know she came into dc she's gonna supposed to be this young congresswoman who's gonna break the democratic establishment but it seems now she's just become a cognitive in the machine she votes for nancy pelosi she really hasn't got anything progressive past so are we are we overblowing of how powerful aoc is because

it seems like she's now a cognitive in the machine she's playing the game yeah look she'll come out on twitter and be revolutionary but when it comes to like voting she's not but she she's she was a freshman congresswoman she's not going to get anything done I think she renamed some post offices and that's but but that's not that's what happens when you're in your first term you're not going to have any power or any any any leverage or any connections and so you get what you get but she she's got, what, 12 million followers? She's not going anywhere for sure. She is sucking the money from the Democrats like Trump did from the Republicans.

Now, she might go somewhere. Democrats might get rid of her. The Republicans want to get rid of Trump because he's sucking up all the donations. Not only that, after him, all these corporations are like, we're not going to donate to these Republicans anymore. So now they're like, get rid of Trump. Nah, you can't. No, you just got to accept it.

Well, I would actually disagree with you guys, because when we look at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, she's in government. She's a freshman congresswoman. So she's not doing that much. But culturally, she's doing a lot. When she's playing The Last of Us and she's espousing her ideas, when she's going on Twitter, when she going and ranting on on live stream she gets millions of views and everyone's listening to her and she's the kind of new thought leader of the left promoting authoritarianism and making it trendy it's trendy that the big corporations control everything it's trendy and cool that that there's someone that will punish the bad guy whoever that bad guy may be at any moment in time based on our narrative that changes and is absolutely bipolar. So in that aspect, we have to understand huge,

huge power and influence that hasn't been tested, hasn't been challenged effectively at all, in my opinion. There's a nuanced argument, I would say, to say that she's not a leftist, in that she's just a tribal leftistist meaning she says things that will get her clicks get her more followers and it works it's really easy to go to someone and say vote for me and i'll fight for you why because i am the true progressive i'm gonna make them give you money how would you like two thousand dollars cash in your pocket vote for me yeah that's that's called whispering sweet nothings into a constituent's ear that's kind of what andrew yang is doing right now with his run in New York City for mayor.

But it works. A lot of people are so desperate. They're so downtrodden. They're so screwed over by the government. I mean, when we look at the actual issues that are affecting us, failing wages, the deindustrialization, the lack of jobs, the lack of ability to actually have economic mobility in the United States. People are so poor. People are so downtrodden that they're like, yeah, I'll take it. Just give it to me. Just whatever I have to do, sure, give me that $2,000.

And of course, as someone who doesn't believe in government, there was still, I have to admit this, a lot of individuals where that $2,000 would have actually made a big difference in people's lives. That would have been so important for them. I agree with you right there, Luke. And I believe in anarchism. I don't believe in government doing anything for anyone. But you're not a real anarchist, Luke, because you're not leftist anarchist.

Whatever. It doesn't matter. I'm kidding. But Luke, I just want to touch what you said. I think after the experience with me and Sonic in California, talking to the restaurant industry, it's like when we're there, it's like we could see these folks need need the two thousand dollars and and they just need something and it's just like from government there's there's no urgency and it's just we're

just failing the average american so now these now these leftists could come in and say here vote for me you get two thousand reoccurring checks i mean those checks but listen listen you're right these people need these checks but how twisted is it that a dude walks into your house and he takes your gallon of milk out of your fridge and he dumps it down the drain? And then you're like, bro, I need milk. And he goes, all right, all right. I'll tell you what. Vote for me and I'll give you milk.

It's like you took the milk from me in the first place, dude. That's like Keynesian economics 101. Like if you break into someone's garage door, like it's your job to fix the garage door. Like the government did this to the economy. It's their job to make sure that these people have a safety net. But I mean, the problem is, it is the perfect scenario for the government. They create the dependence, and then they create the problem, and they're the only solution. Yeah, they give us power, then we'll solve this thing.

We started the problem. It's our fault. But don't worry. If you vote for us, we'll fix it for you. And they're going to make it a lot worse by devaluing your dollar, collapsing the economy. And then the price of your daily items at the grocery store will go up dramatically, and you won't be able to afford to live. The medical industry is already rigged.

It's going to be even more rigged. There's a cascading effect, yeah. It's even going to be more rigged with companies like Amazon coming into the play here as they're trying to get control of the healthcare market now, as Amazon just recently teamed up with Warren Buffett, with Berkshire, and Jamie Diamond of J.P. Morgan to launch a new health care company. So when you look at this kind of megalo, like monopoly, huge conglomerate of a glob that is Amazon, they've taken over the book business. They're taking over their online retail business. They're taking over all the lucrative government contracts. They've taken over the book business. They've taken over their online retail business. They've taken over all the lucrative government contracts. They've taken over grocery stores.

And now they're trying to take over the health industry. But Luke, it's okay because they tweet Black Lives Matter, Luke. It's okay. Hold on, hold on. Let me stop you guys ragging on Amazon. Think about this. Think about this. I remember when I was growing up,

they were like, how many banks were there? It's like, you want to go to the bank. There were so many banks. Well, then by just good fortune, Bank of America bought up every single bank. And so then it was like, dude, you could walk a block and boom, Bank of America. So the ATM was super easy to use, super convenient.

How awesome was that? So here's what I think about. Imagine a future where you open your phone, right? You open your phone and you got 100 apps. I don't even know what's going on there's so many apps i would like one app we'll call it app then think about you gotta go to the doctor i don't want to think about what building i have to go to how about we just have one big building called store and it'll be owned by jeff bezos an app will be owned by google and it'll just do everything right that's the future we're gonna head towards where there's one massive conglomerate.

I'm joking for those that people haven't gotten through the facetiousness. But the point I'm making is they're hyper monopolizing everything into single sources for everything. Where they will be the provider. And then I want you to think about what that future has in store for you. When you get banned by app, you can't order food. You can't use a map. You're done imagine if apple banned you from their from their from their iphone ios they could yeah you don't know the

software they're licensing it to you on your phone so they can turn it off people don't question aggregation of power monopoly oligopolies if that gives them convenience in their day-to-day lives and that's the like that's the problem like they like they're using amazon they're using like they're reading, like, Washington Post, but they're not questioning the fact that this one company gets to control so much

that if I fall out of line, what will happen to me? You know what people don't get to? I love the naivety of these people who think that, well, Jeff Bezos can't force the Washington Post to write, you know, whatever.

So, you know, they're editorially independent. It's like, oh, shut up, dude. Jeff Bezos will just be like, oh, yeah, I can't tell you what to write, whatever. So they're editorially independent. It's like, oh, shut up, dude. Jeff Bezos will just be like, oh, I can't tell you what to write, but no budget this year. Yeah, you don't work here anymore.

Right. And then not only that, Tim, we also have to think about the influence of the Washington Post because now journalists who are dying to get to the Washington Post, they're never going to investigate Amazon or they're never going to report on Amazon truthfully because they want that Washington Post job too.

So then you make all these other media and journalists kind of just bend over to you without even having to be at the Washington Post either. So that's something that plays a role too. The Trump news cycle dominated for so long because it was not a threat to the establishment, but it gave them this narrative that they were fighting the machine exactly it was really funny i'd hear from leftists when they'd say like you know i i would talk about paul just watson says you know conservatism is a new counterculture and it's punk rock apparently the most punk rock song you could write would be supporting the president because the entirety of

the cultural machines is against him yeah and people but that's not true he's the president and i'm like yeah who struggles to get any of his policies done because the Republicans don't even like him. He hires and fires people faster than anybody else we've ever seen. And he's really locked up because of the Mueller investigation. Like the dude was pinned down in a lot of ways, far from perfect. But the point is, just because you're president doesn't mean you control anything, right? I mean, you do have a lot of control. Trump was able to do a lot of things. But I look now at AOC. And if politics is downstream from culture trust me man give it 15 years and aoc is going to be considered they're going to call her conservative she's going to be considered a

moderate democrat by the time she's like you know in her 50s or 60s so like you don't think you don't think that she actually believes the things she sounds like right now no she does what i'm saying is that in how How old is she now? She's 28? No, she's like 31. Yeah. So in, you know, let's say 30 years, universal health care, universal jobs guarantee, all that stuff she's talking about in that little drawing thing she did, that will be considered

centrist. The Republicans are being excised. Conservative values are gone. And, you know, it's a conservative's fault in a lot of ways. I've had so many arguments with conservatives about big tech censorship over the past several years. I remember once when I was in Milwaukee, I was talking to this guy and I said, we need to regulate big tech to protect freedom of speech.

And he argued with me. And I was like, dude, if you want to sit here and argue with me that we shouldn't regulate these companies when I'm like the liberal arguing for this, I'm just going to agree with you. You know why? It's not my ideology getting purged from the internet. So by the time you've figured out what's happening to your ideas and your ideology and your politics, you'll be long gone and I'll have been fighting to preserve my politics and what I believe in. So if you're not smart enough to realize what's happening, then maybe your ideas don't deserve to exist anyway. Yeah, hey, Jack Dorsey is more powerful

than the President of the United States. I think that says it all. The good thing is, I don't know if it's a good thing, but I think it's an interesting concept is how these other countries are now waking up to this concept of what social media in the United States and just kind of that reach between social media and then big government here in the United States.

Now other countries are like, wait a minute. When it comes to election time, we should be banning Facebook and Twitter. Yeah, Uganda just did it. And they saw if this American app can ban their own president, we won't let Jack Dorsey dictate what happens in our country, in our democracy. Really quick, before you go, just a funny. It was a daily. We have a guy named logan hall with the daily caller and he tweeted he's like uh he's like hey facebook why don't

you why don't you go build your own country yeah no i said why don't you build your own uganda yeah yeah well this is important here i don't know if we should maybe pull this up but the mexican president just announced that he's going to be mounting an international campaign against social media bans so the mexican president right now is saying that the first thing he's going to be mounting an international campaign against social media bans. So the Mexican president right now is saying that the first thing he's going to do at the next upcoming G20 meetings is to organize a proposal where they will work together to, of course, make sure that social media companies cannot suspend freedom of expression. And he's actively fighting for it.

I never thought I would ever say this. The Mexican president is actively fighting for the speech of donald trump that's great what 2021 but this is a pretty big story let's do this let's do this let's talk about what veritas just ended up um publishing yeah we have a story from breitbart project veritas video shows twitter's ceo jack dorsey saying censorship is not, quote, going away anytime soon. It's interesting. I heard James O'Keefe, you know, puts up this video and he says, we got a recording of Jack Dorsey speaking. And I said, man, I wish it was just Jack Dorsey literally sitting there with his real voice going, now we're going to ban all of the conservatives and they'll never speak again. But in reality, life isn't like that.

So it's really just him going, so we're focused on this one account. And, you know, what we're seeing with these other accounts like QAnon, it's not going to stop anytime soon. But right now we're focused on this one account. Life's boring. It really is. You're not going to hear some secret meeting between, you know, Jack Dorsey. No. He's like, it's like he's on the phone with CNN.

He's like, I think we're going to do the right thing and ban trump all right have a good day i just got off the phone they believed everything no it's not it's not like that jack is exactly like he is exactly like he speaks and it's the banality of evil it's him going there being like we're doing the right thing to prevent violence by silencing 74 million people who are extremely angry right now and i know that they just stormed the Capitol and they were all extremely angry and there was several people who died. And I think it's the appropriate thing to make them angrier and prove everything they believed is true.

Well, Tim, I want to ask you, when you did the whole thing when Joe Rogan had you on and you just kind of like came on and just pressed Jack, did you leave that podcast and was like, hey, I think this guy might fix some things. had you on and you just kind of like came on and just pressed jack did you leave that podcast was like hey i think this guy might fix some things i think he like considers some of the things we're saying you're just like no he's an oligarch and it is what it is because we were talking about blockchain technology and you know there was talk about i don't know if we talked about it on the show there was talk about creating a social media network that on the blockchain so you can never ban anyone and i was like dude that's nightmarish you know why because then when you're 16 and you post something really dumb

on the blockchain it's forever forever yeah you can't get rid of it yeah that's horrible so i'm like you know people need but maybe that would actually not that be a that bad of a thing because if everybody was forced to realize we've all been dumb kids saying dumb things yeah then they'd be like hey when you were 16 you said before you say that i can see what you said when you were 16 so how about we just shut up yeah it might it might actually end up being a good thing but uh no i think he's a he's a bad person and uh that was classic tim that was good stuff just you just drilling him and him having to be like oh he had to bring like another twitter person to like handle the questions it was legendary well i mean because jo Joe and Jack did it the first time.

And then they were both like, we need to have a bigger conversation about this. No, but following that, he was talking about, we talked about the road to redemption. Like, if in the real world, you could murder somebody and you only go to prison for 25 years. You get let back out with restrictions, right? And I was like, but you could say learn to code on Twitter and be banned from from life a little harsh don't you think and so they jack was saying this is not what like two years ago he's like we're gonna have a road to redemption people will be able to come back we'll find a path to come back on and i was like you need to do that and it needs to be get rid of this idea of permanent bans like it you know it needs to be like like the worst case

there's a five-year ban but That's still a really long time. But most people who got banned for like learn to code, it should have been a month. Like, I mean, honestly, you shouldn't get banned for saying learn to code. But if it was something like we've deemed this to be harassment, then come on. A lifetime permanent ban? Well, more is coming. So look, we have this video from James O'Keefe. It's not the craziest thing. He just basically says, we're focused on one account on one account trump right now but this is going to be much bigger than just one account and it's going

to go on for much longer than just this day this week in the next few weeks and go on beyond inauguration dude everybody just stop using twitter man i'm i'm really like i i guess there's a reason to use it um i've said many times in the past i'm gonna stop using twitter i still use it but i just don't care anymore so i just do a lot of trolling you know i i love watching michael malice on twitter i learned from the best he's the best he's just yeah i've i've seen really good trolls but he really knows how to make people just like brains crack and so i just put out tweets that i think are funny and i don't think about it anymore maybe that is part of the problem though because then a ton of people are like yeah but then i'm going to follow you because you say funny things and then people react because they're

dumb and i'm like yeah yeah i should probably just stop posting tweets you know you know what i do like a lot of the opinions i put on twitter i just say in my videos anyway this twitter doesn't even do anything for me it It's just pointless. Like, you know what, man? I get there's a lot of people who really want to get more likes and more shares and more followers. I don't care about that. I mean, I cared about it when I first got started and I had that first experience of

going from like 800 followers to like 5,000. And it was a weird thing having people talking to me all the time, getting hit up. I was like, what's happening? And then I remember this is back in 2011, getting the first super stressful anxiety from seeing like 30 tweets where they were like, Tim Pool's a fed, he's a cop. And I'm like, what's happening? I'm being inundated with all these tweets. And it was freaking me out. I'm like, I don't want to look at this. And then I just like kind of thought about it. And I was like, I don't I don't even know these 30 people. Yeah, like I looked at it. I was like, hold on. Hold on. Wait a minute. How many people are insulting me right now? I went through it. And I was like i don't i don't even know these 30 people yeah like i looked through i was like hold on hold on wait a minute how many people are insulting me right now i went through it and i was like

there's not even that many people and then i thought about it just stopped caring but i took the platform seriously for a long time i would live stream i'll post news and then i think maybe like it was a year and a half ago or so i was just like i'm not gonna post my videos anymore i'm not gonna treat this platform i actually deleted the app from my phone and then i thought about and i was like you know i do like using the app to follow the news organizations and certain journalists so i should probably still have it and that's when i flipped to just like just posting nonsense for fun well the sad thing is a lot of people are obsessed with it and it's their entire existence and it's also their entire identity and And when you see individuals like that, it's like,

okay, I mean, and then we also have to understand the other spectrum here, your emotions could be manipulated by bots or by fake government sock puppet accounts that could manipulate your feelings and emotions based on what they say. That's why I think it's really smart what you did with your website, trying to get your kind of crowd on your platform where you have contacts with them. That's one of the reasons I've been setting up a similar system and collecting emails on wearechange.org because I understand that once I have the actual context, once I have one-on-one communication with my audience, I could open up the comments. I could have an honest conversation

that there is no middle person. And I think we need to tell people to do this more and more. Get your own lists. Make sure there's no middle person standing on the ground that could decide what you get to hear, who you get to talk to. Because when you look at the algorithms, they are programmed for a specific outcome. But once you got one-on-one email communication, email still could be rigged in many different ways, especially with the spam box. But it's, in my opinion, one of the best things we have right now. And we should really be taking advantage of it. Think about this, man. You know, so I've got on this channel, we're at like 900 and something thousand subscribers. You guys are awesome. Thanks so much for subbing. And we're really

close to getting that gold medal. But I got two other channels over a million. So there's probably some overlap. You know, some people subscribe to all three, but there really are a lot of people who aren't, who are subscribed to only one or the other. Then I got 790,000 or so on Twitter. And I'm like, man, if I could get just 10,000 people giving $10 a month, we would not have to worry about any of the censorship. Out of the millions of people, just 10,000 people. I mean, man, for that matter, even if it was just 5,000 people, that's crazy. And you know what the crazy thing is? The leftists do it.

They do it and they do it really easily. That's why some of the biggest podcasts in the world, I'm not going to name any of them, but they make like, they're making like 150K on subscribers every month. And I see that and I'm like, they don't care about what they say because they know they're directly funded by the people who like their content. Whereas I made the mistake of just doing a traditional ad model, which means if I get nuked, business over. So I was like, we got to start this. I should have done it a long time ago.

And now we really got to start pushing it and making that the core function of what we do. Because you're better off with 10,000 dedicated fans giving 10 bucks a month, because then you can really run a biz with that kind of money. Yeah, when YouTube demonetized me, at first, I was like, oh my god, I'm going to lose all my money. This is horrible. And then I'm like, well, I just got thrown into the deep end. I could sink or swim. And I was like, let me swim. And I set up a similar system that you have. And I started making shirts. And again, people need to understand, one thing that you bring up is this extremely important point that you as the individual watching right now have the ultimate power to decide what your attention, what your votes, what your dollars, what your clicks, what prevails. If you want the nonsense to prevail, you're going to focus on the nonsense and give your energy and time and focus on that nonsense if you want good things to prevail you're going to make sure those good things do prevail by investing

in them with your time we used to do uh when i used to do fundraising they would have these little gimmicks where they'd be like it's 10 bucks a month not even a cup of coffee every day so you know what you do instead of getting that that venti you get a grande instead and boom you're supporting your favorite creator at the time we're talking about non-profits so we're like you want to save the rainforest right forego one cup of coffee per month boom you're saving the rainforest you gotta do what you can to to help support the things you like but but uh i really want to stress that point out of the you know combined follower count of all of my socials around like four plus a million we only need 10 000 people and then we're totally financially independent from this entire system but But I'm talking like 10,000 people at 10 bucks a month is expansion territory, like new buildings, new staff,

new news. That's the territory we want to get into. Now with Jack Dorsey saying it's going to keep expanding, I'm thinking maybe I should just stop using Twitter. Look, I like the Twitter list I've curated of people I follow because I got a good balance and i use it for news aggregation getting banned would kind of you know hurt my ability to follow the news so why why bother even contributing to the noise like given the fact that this subscription model and this this ad model is getting more popular with like people on the left and people on the right do you think like the concept of like the public square is going to be like outdated or is like even it's like overrated twitter twitter destroyed it yeah twitter twitter really is the place they destroyed it because that's where up-to-date political news

happens yeah you know facebook is like a bulletin board where you walk up and you put something on the wall and you walk away uh-huh twitter is like the people standing there talking to each other each other yeah so them taking the power and giving it to the left and then the left acting like it's not happening is what's the end of even moderate views in this country when do you think that switch happened though i mean it's gradual it's grains of sand in a heat right so over time twitter has become more and more prominent i think donald trump played a huge role in it donald trump should have gone to another platform he didn't do it do you think that was like the guilt for them like yeah we did not we the fact that we covered

the wikileaks story and all this all this like gave credence to this guy now he's in like the president's seat like that's like the kill for them yeah maybe but the the real issue is that jack dorsey seems to have never talked to a conservative before yeah so like when he went on the joe rogan podcast it was it was aptly and accurately pointed out by many conservatives they were like why are four liberals sitting in a room talking about banning conservatives and two liberals are defending conservatives instead of having the conservatives actually defend themselves oh that's a great point now joe asked me to come i'm admittedly a liberal on on most of these issues but i believe in freedom

yeah i don't think the current version of liberal is even liberal these are like authoritarian progressive left yeah but it's not even you know the people who say they're liberals are just tribal democrats you know so that we might agree on some economic issues but they don't agree on freedom yeah so it really just comes down to the fact that jack doesn't know he lives in a bubble a far left ultra progressive bubble echo chamber yeah and he thinks it's normal yeah so he's like when he hears a conservative say i think uh you know he'll conservative say we need to have better uh border security to make sure that we can pick our jobs. He goes, Nazi.

It's like, actually, that's most of the country. But you live in a bubble. So I'll tell you one thing, man. When I when I heard there are some some leftists who have shows where they've got like 30 or 50,000 people giving every month. And I'm like, that one leftist dude is a millionaire because leftists are collectivists. Yeah. Because when the authority says rally to me and they raise their fist, they all say, yes, it's what they believe in.

Conservatives don't really do that. Conservatives are more individualist. So I think this is a big weakness for conservatives. You know, Crowder has mug club. So he's absolutely been on on on the game with this and you think about it when youtube nuked him he was fine why he's got mug he has the backing of the mug yeah yeah and i was like man what am i doing i was like we really got to make sure we have that barrier i've i've taken donations from people for a long time i never like very like

stress it to an extreme degree but this is this this is the the legit reason to make sure that we're hearing the words straight out of jack dorsey's mouth the bombs are dropping and then we're seeing it um right after the january 6th instagram actually started um deleting a lot of like photo journalists like a lot of their posts just from the six so now if you just report the news like straight that's what happened to me dude you're now gonna get shadow ban sensor you're gonna get warnings gonna get all this stuff uh deleted so first it starts off with trump and then now we're just gonna we're gonna start moving into the people who just do straight news like people that i literally just do news i'll see them get their stuff nuked on instagram facebook and yeah and

then we're gonna see it on on twitter too so i mean this is just it's horrible i mean the thing is for me is it's easy like i would love to be in a position to be like i want to delete twitter but i'm still on the on the up and coming where i need twitter for the type of work that i do you know field correspondent journalism so very tough spot for people like me right now and it's just like well you know what do we do at this point but you don't you don't have to contribute to like the core of what's causing twitter to be a problem you can post news you can follow news i'm talking about you know when i tweet jokes or trolling it it gives people a reason to use the platform so for me i'm kind of like maybe i should just

use it as a as a business vehicle of reading what people are talking about you know i used to do segments where i would see someone like do a twitter thread and then i would argue a little bit and i was just like i don't care about these people i don't care about taking some verified blue check with a million followers and then doing a video where I'm like, well, here's why they're wrong. I'm not interested. Maybe sometimes, but I've tried to get away from a lot of that stuff and just keep the focus of the news. And I think the more we keep our addictions to Twitter for whatever reason, then it's just going to keep dominating the system. And it's our collective voices using the platform that gives Jack Dorsey the power to decide what the culture is going to be in the next decade or so, which is why Gab is great.

And every year gets a little bit – like from my perspective, every year it's getting worse on Twitter because last year, one thing that I was able to – not me, like report on a lot, but I was able to use my platform to communicate with these journalists is last year – and it's still the problem now, is the problem with the Mexican cartels in Mexico. So one thing that I was able to discover with Twitter is Twitter actually, at least last year, they were letting a lot of those videos just flow on. And we were able to show the American audience like, hey, this is what goes on in Mexico with the cartels and stuff. But then as soon as the new year started, they banned all these like violence videos, which I get. But I still think i still think that twitter needs to respect the newsworthy of these subjects because now we don't see i mean then also too around i remember um in the beginning of 2019 you can't even see these videos now is when iraq was starting to protest you would see how the government was doing the

internet blackout in iraq they were killing a lot of their protesters who were unarmed you got to see that stuff on twitter and as soon as 2020 started they don't even let that stuff fly so it's like now we can't even inform the public of like these real situations in these countries too well another thing you really need to understand here is that they're ruling with fear they're setting up this chilling effect look innocent people got hit who just report on the news they get taken away and i wouldn't be surprised if potentially this is just my theory jack dorsey released that video himself to to set up this chilling effect saying you better behave you better do what we say you better censor yourself or we're going to totally cut you off

because more cuts are coming and they knew what they were doing because when we look at the onset of like google and google video youtube YouTube, BlipTV, whatever. It was first new kind of software, new systems, new websites that were very kind of out there in the open. If you liked the video, if you subscribe to a channel, you would actually see the channel. The channels that were most viewed were listed. These are the most viewed channels. Of course, a lot of anti-establishment anti-corporate dominant stuff came up and it scared the other bejesus out of people and they were like crack dealers because

that that little whiff of freedom was a little crack you know in new york city when i grew up crack dealers would give crack to people who are downtrodden so they get for free at first yeah they would get downtrodden they would they would take the crack they would then they would become crackheads and customers that they would, of course, use and abuse. Yeah, they always had the free samples for a reason. They did the same thing with social media. And that's why some people akin social media addiction to alcoholism even. There's been some studies showing that it could be even more severe than chemical dependency. You're linked to this cyborg machine that is literally programmed to keep you addicted to it,

as they even work with gambling institutions to try to gamify everything, so you're stuck into the gaze, blindly looking, giving away your soul to it. That's why they never got rid of follower count or retweet count. They talked about it, and they never got rid of follower count or retweet count they talked about it and they never did and the reason is they know what drives people to use twitter is earning points that's the thesis of the dopamine hit like that was the whole concept of like social dilemma like they shed a really good light on it like this is actually designed to keep your attention like everything about it like the fact that when you like scroll up and it kind of like gives you like a bounce effect and like kind of refreshes that's like the lottery machine they

work with the top psychological psychology experts in the world to try to get you hooked on it like like like you're a drug addict and that's why luke and i know luke has actually said this before so it's not new but that's why uh if you look at like teenage girls their depression is the highest it's ever been because the endorphin like like, oh my god, he liked my picture. Don't want to have friend requests. Now that we're constantly bringing this up, go to TimCast.com and become a member because I can't imagine they're going to be happy. I mean, yeah, but I'm loving this segment. I'm like, yes, yes, let's explain to people the very serious threat we're facing and why I'm like, we need to build this backboard

safety net kind of deal because my Facebook is effectively shut down. I'm allowed to post, but I can't monetize and they've shadow banned basically. So it's effectively done. Why? Because on January 6th, I made a video saying, here's what's happening. Man, this is crazy. Look at this. Look at that. Look at this. That was it. Can't allow it. News is not allowed. So gone. But I want to talk about something in this. You know, when we're talking about addiction, you got to think about what the addiction want drugs. They'll sell their possessions. They'll rob from their families. They'll do things with people they wouldn't normally do because they're desperate for that hit. That brings me to this next story. This is from AZ Central. Warrant issued for arrest of far-right streamer Tim Baked Alaska Giannette after he violates release conditions fails to show in

court. Now, for many of you, you may not know who this guy is. Many of you may. But he's been involved a lot in politics. He used to work for BuzzFeed. He then worked for Milo Yiannopoulos. And I've actually interviewed him in the past. He was associated with right wing groups and then alt-right groups and then argued he wasn't alt-right. And then it goes back and forth. But the reality is, I think what we've learned from his time at BuzzFeed, his attempt at being a rapper, is that he's actually just driven to get likes. He's driven to get attention on social media. And I think his story and everything this guy's done, he's filming himself storming

the Capitol. He's pointing the camera and he's like, Trump's going to be really happy with us. And he picks up Pelosi's phone or whatever, and he's making jokes. He's gone so far off the deep end. There are a lot of people, right? So before we read into this, I want to mention Joey Salads, right? You guys know Joey Salads? We had him on the show. He made a YouTube video where he hired black men to vandalize a car with Trump support, like Trump merchandise in it. And what he did was he was like, I'm going to leave this car with Trump supporter stuff in it in this

neighborhood and see what happens. And the next scene is black men damaging the vehicle. Somebody in the apartment above filmed it and saw what Joey had done. And then right when he released the video, sent the footage to I think H3H3 and then busted him, staging this attack, which was, and many

people said it was racist or fueling racism whatever you want to call it and so i snapped at the dude i was yelling at him i was like this is disgusting behavior but joey you know he apologized most people just don't give him a chance at redemption but i've always said if you don't at least let someone try to do better they won't they'll go the other direction so i had a conversation with him and what he said to me what he said to many other people is that he didn't realize how far he had gone in making this content and chasing after the money and the views now you look at someone like baked alaska he's got no limit it's all about the next one up to get that hit to make that money to get those likes to get that traffic and then

he winds up listen here's the story i'll give you the gist of it he jumped bail according to az central to go to dc the first place, breaking the law. He breaks the law going in the building and films himself doing it. And then he doesn't show up for court and his lawyer can't get a hold of him. He has been driven to the extreme and chasing after this. Now, the crazy thing, he got started at BuzzFeed. Ben Smith, former editor in chief, I believe, was the one who hired him.

He wrote an op-ed about it. You take this young person, you put him in this environment where you're like, get those likes, get those likes. This is what BuzzFeed's all about. Get those shares, get those shares. And I don't think BuzzFeed gets to absolve themselves of the responsibility of what they created in this dude. Well, if you look at the inner workings of BuzzFeed, they actually have entire walls dedicated to how many likes, how many hits an article gets. Don't look at me like that, Lydia.

I know I did. It was a fraudulent slip. But they incentivize you. Potato, potato. They incentivize. I'm Polish and dyslexic. They incentivize literally get as many hits as you can. So is it fair to say that Baked Alaska is a product

of buzzfeed and buzzfeed radicalized yes i don't speed radical i don't think i'm not trying to make a joke about it though it's true i don't think he's i think he was already like that because even before the whole capital thing i would actually see some of his videos just on twitter with the circulating it'll just be him walking into like a grocery store with no mask and people telling him where to mask and then he'll tell him like the buzzfeed stuff was years and years and years ago nobody knew who he was when he worked at buzzfeed oh yeah i know and he gets hired for this job where they incentivize his behavior bro those things you do that shot content you can make money doing it he was like greeted in that system and like there's no wonder

that he right now like that became his whole model well let's let's read this so uh this from ac central they say a scottsdale judge issued a warrant for the arrest of far-right social media personality Tim Baked Alaska Giannette after he said Giannette violated conditions of his release by leaving the state last week to go to Washington, where he apparently live-streamed the U.S. Capitol riot. Giannette already was facing misdemeanor charges of assault, disorderly conduct, and criminal trespass in Scottsdale City Court after police allege he refused to leave a bar and then pepper sprayed an employee he had been released in that case with the agreement he not leave the state without the court's permission didn't he film himself doing that yes yeah he filmed himself on uh on uh on that d live live stream yeah picks up somebody yeah

picks up the picks up the senate phone and acts like he's like uh talking to donald trump it just it's all bad video so they say judge james blake was not pleased the 33 year old jeanette chose to skip his court hearing without explanation and even jeanette's attorney zach thornley was unable to reach his client on the phone during the court hearing now my understanding is that d live banned him yeah he is look i remember when he was posting these like ironic Nazi jokes on Twitter and then he I interviewed him and he said, look, it was just supposed to be edgy and it was supposed to trigger the left who was freaking out and it was a mistake. And I was like, OK, and then he does it again and again and again.

And then and then he gets banned. He had like two hundred and fifty thousand followers. Oh, huge. Yeah. And he gets banned because he just would not stop. He was constantly trying to one up everything. So I was like, OK, dude was clearly lying to me. Now we see where he's gone since then.

It is just a constant one-up. I tell you, man, when you're an addict and you are chasing after that hit, I don't care if it's social media or drugs. This dude is now a fugitive from the law. Isn't it crazy how, like, we talk about social media being addictive. How you guys are mentioning that. Luke, you said it was like alcoholism something crazier than that here's a guy now who his lawyer can't find him and the judge wants him locked up and he's probably he's probably facing oh man federal charges for the right this this one we're talking about that's that's scottsdale arizona that's arizona right that's not we're not even talking about what's what's

gonna happen with the fbi federal prison to own the lips no but for the likes man this is the important thing right i don't think baked alaska is far right i think he's just like a social media saying whatever he can to whoever will listen yeah and social media prostitute here's here's what happened to a lot of people on twitter they would post a meme and if it was like left or right probably right because most memes are being produced by the right. Right, yeah. They get a ton of likes. Feels good.

A lot of shares. More followers, more followers. So they one-up it. And they chase after it with no end. No point of self-reflection. At no point do they say, hey, whoa, maybe that's too much. Like Joey Salads did.

Only until he got caught and shut down did Joey realize like, I didn't realize what I was doing. And now he's stopped. And now his videos are like hokey pranks with his girlfriend where like he's he puts like sprays with tim i don't um really quick uh hey attention is a hell of a drug yeah man tim i don't know if you ever um or luke if you guys in song if you guys heard of this uh social media girl she was it was a couple years ago her name was um because now that we're speaking about this just brings about to my head her name was little because now that we're speaking about this, just brings me to my head. Her name was Lil Tay.

And she was like a 10-year-old girl, regular girl. And her brother tried to groom her to be this fake social media rapper. And basically, her videos would be like, you put the camera on her. She'd be like, I'm Lil Tay. I'm 10 years old. And she'd just have money. She's like, I'm rich. This is my Ferrari.

And she just got into it. And then I think think i forgot what investigative reporter was able to pull the videos where her brother is literally training her behind a green screen like she's just like a regular 10 year ago she's like what do i say say like this be more ignorant and it was just now now that we're speaking about that addiction it was like it was that too like they were just that likes that likes that likes and there was fake image there was cases of of people abusing their children for youtube videos yeah exactly uh that you know philip defranco even called out and that's brought to everyone's attention that was able to actually take them down because if it wasn't for individuals like like philip defranco to to actually address this no one would have

known they would have kept growing in numbers but he and i think a couple of his viewers took all of the videos and they made a compilation a compilation and it it was akin to child abuse of them putting their children in front of the camera making them fight doing everything for attention slapping them slapping them hitting them i mean it's just absolutely crazy how low people will go there was a video on youtube of a dad giving his daughter a vaccine and like pulling her pants down and putting the needle in her butt and it had like 12 million views i don't i don't it wasn't in america but there was this phenomenon that happened on youtube where bots figured out what was getting clicks and created these insane videos of like you'd see these cartoon thumbnails of like a guy drinking out of a

urinal and it's for real like a cartoon and you click the video and it's like uh what was spider man joker and elsa running around with music and then elsa was pregnant and joker would have a gigantic syringe because those were for some reason what the algorithm was promoting so these people are chasing after whatever they can get the algorithms are turning us into lunatics yeah i look at i look dude i get messages from people man i don't know what's happened to my friends no joke i have left-wing friends who think that i don't even want to get into the conspiracy stuff they believe but it's like you've heard of q anon you know know why? Because the media talks about it.

And they go, ha-ha, look how dumb the right-wingers are. But the right doesn't point the finger at the fringe conspiracies of the left and the things they believe. Probably because that's not what the conservatives do. They're focused on government. They're focused on seats of power. But because the media is focused on this threat of QAnon, they don't talk about the left and the unhinged and insane conspiracies. Like, we got a glimpse of it when MSNBC ran a segment where they claimed that Donald Trump was a Soviet KGB asset. The Soviet Union, no joke, from the 80s. They actually had a guy on it. So we got to consider that Trump may have been maybe an asset of Russia going back to the 80s when

they were part of the Soviet Union, dude. Now was a glimpse i tell you man i'm not going to name some of these people because they got a lot of followers hundreds of thousands they've been on twitter the entire time saying insane things well beyond what q says so you hear about this q anon stuff and they'll be like the night hawk is is driving and silver fox is gonna is gonna launch the the missile then we're going to see the indictments and it's like it means nothing. And then you look at some of these people on the left and they're like, Murmurs are happening now at the DOJ. They're turning, they're revolting. The deep state is going to put Bannon on trial for treason and he's going to be executed.

It's the same thing. But the media doesn't talk about it. They give it a pass. Well, the mainstream media is now telling us that the biggest threat for our democracy, for our existence, are people's individual political opinion. When in reality, the threat is the social media. It's leading people to hurt people. It's leading people to exploit people. It's leading people to break the laws.

And just in those particular instances that we noted here, there's so many more. There was a case in Indonesia where people were taking puppies and putting them in horrible predicaments and then rescuing them. And it was always the same puppy being rescued after it was placed there. And they were manipulating the algorithm, which that was incentivized, promoted by YouTube. Just right now, when you talked about that vaccine case, I remember seeing on my newsfeed, you know stories for this particular podcast i seen a vaccine proposal someone getting a vaccine and proposing on social media to get the likes and attention so when we look at the bigger threat towards our existence it's not people who say

stuff on social media that you may not like it is social media that is the existential threat against humanity just ban all of it and the crazy thing is ban all of it. And the crazy thing is too. Ban all of it and ban us, whatever. I don't care. Humans have lost their minds. This is nuts. Yeah. And I mean, the funny thing is this. It's not the funny thing, but it's just how media continues to divide us.

And I think I actually heard this yesterday on Tim's show. Yesterday was the populace on the left and the right agree on so much. Like if you just sat them at a dinner table, they would literally be shaking hands at the end of the day. They're like, wow, we could probably take down the establishment but the media makes it seem like we're so divided like at the end of the day if you grab someone from the left and then the right they say hey you know what health care is screwing us over i want to send my kids to college i want to be able to work where i want i want to be able to raise a family on maybe on one income we you know we agree on these things but they're making it seem like we are are now like

in a civil war we're two different countries it case. I mentioned this on the show yesterday. We were talking about the show Recess, the cartoon. And I figured out who this guy was. It's Randall Weems. All right? So it's a cartoon called Recess. And it's about these kids, an eclectic bunch, a diverse bunch, mind you. You've got different races.

You've got the nerdy guy. You've got the fat kid. And then the regular kid or whatever. I don't know. But there's this one kid who would always snitch to miss finster and there's a quote hey let me play or i'll make up something to tell miss finster on you and this kid's like hunched back and he's like the teacher he's always you know rattling snitching on everybody that's a journalist that's journalist today all right what they do is they see people posting

jokes and having a good time and they go i'm gonna report you and then they call they call someone at like a bank did you know that there's a guy on twitter who said something dumb and he's got a bank account with you and they're like uh we we don't serve them anymore we're gonna ban them like shut down they're fun here's the best part here's the best part the show's the best part. The show Recess is from when I was a kid, right? And so I look up this wiki for Recess and Randall Weems, age nine. However, year of birth is 1988. He's 32 years old. That means he probably is at the age where he would work at BuzzFeed. That's right.

So I'm telling you, man, these people, these journalists are literally the Randall Weems of the world. We were all having fun during recess playing kickball. Some of us were really good at some of us were bad at it. Some of us were the weird loner kids who are hanging out minding our own business or you were the kid playing Pokemon Magic the Gathering and skateboarding. But he was the these journalists were the nasty little tattletales who are always sucking up to the teacher and just getting in everyone's way and everybody hated them. I wonder if you all know the kind of person I'm talking about and you can think like, oh man, I remember that kid. I got one name.

Now they work at BuzzFeed. Carla Mazza. Carlos Mazza. Oh my God. He's Randall Weems, dude. He's still a thing. Oliver Darcy. Oliver Darcy.

But Tim, not only are the journalists playing the snitch role, but the journalists now are playing the PR role. Exactly. Where now a politician would say something and they just run with it. Like what happened to us holding the powerful accountable? Now we just do PR for them. I'm not going to say the MSNBC's host name, but as soon as Biden got elected, she went on Twitter and said, Oh, isn't this a great day for America? We finally have a president who doesn't lie.

It's like, you're a news person. Hold them accountable. So now, yeah, so now journalists run PR for these people. And he lied about the Iraq war. So like, yeah, let's not forget about it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, come on. Biden is a bag of lies.

No, but if a politician is not lying, it's not a politician. I'm sorry. But Luke, he tweets Black Lives Matter. So it's okay. Again, it's okay. Yeah, it's fine. It doesn't matter that we bomb Black Lives in the Middle East as long as we tweet it. That a politician. I'm sorry. But Luke, he tweets Black Lives Matter so it's okay. Again, it's okay. Doesn't matter that we bomb Black Lives in the Middle East as long as we tweet it. That's okay. You know, Joe Biden

is a lot of things and it's funny because everything the left says about Trump, you could point at Joe Biden and be like, I'll give you some examples. You know what I mean? Oh, but he's corrupt. Oh, we got China. We got Ukraine. We got the Bobby Linsky. Yeah, but Trump is an electric old man old man it's like hold on there well we got video after video after video of sleepy creepy joe touching them little girls man so look you can tell from the media and i'm and i

i'm i'm i'm over talking about it but i have to like what let me rephrase that i'm sitting in my room you know i'm doing research i'm reading the news and there are stories that i probably would have talked about a year ago where it's like double standard in media. And I'd be like, can you believe this double standard? Now I'm like, so what? It's life. It's the new normal.

We know the media is lying half the time, more than half the time. I mean, come on. CNN just had John Sullivan as a correspondent. CNN brought on. Okay, so CNN goes, these are insurrectionist domestic terrorists. Now for our next guest, one of the domestic terrorists, a guy who was arrested for egging them on and inciting the riot. And he's not a Trump supporter. He even said he wasn't.

And they have him on because they can point the finger at the right and they get away with it. That's creepy, man. Hey, we're all going to be waiting for that update on CNN that they interviewed a criminal. I got a feeling that update won't be coming. Well, I'll tell you, we talk about journalists cinching on people. But let's talk about the real creepy 1984 stuff. Yeah. This next story is from Fox 13.

Teen daughter turns in family for taking part in Capitol insurrection. They say an 18-year-old girl outed her own mother, uncle, and aunt for taking part in last week's U.S. Capitol insurrection that left five people dead. Helena Duke posted images to Twitter of her mother, Therese, inside the Capitol on January 6th. Hi, Mom. Remember the time you told me I shouldn't go to BLM protests because they could get violent? This you? tweeted Duke.

In a video on one of her daughter's tweets, Therese Duke could be seen arguing with a police officer. Another tweet featured photos of all three of her family members inside the Capitol along with their names. Hi, this is the liberal lesbian of the family who has been kicked out multiple times for her views and for going to BLM protests to care what happens to me. So because she has little in the way of financial help from her family, Duke has set up a GoFundMe account that has already raised $40,000. I didn't even know that part of the story. Okay, that made it way worse. Hold on.

Can we do an inflationary comparison between 30 pieces of silver and $40,000? Yeah, that sounds about right. At the moment, I have no idea how I will be paying for college as I have little financial support. I have a dream of one day becoming a lawyer, but I need help to get there. I hope to attend college and then go into the Peace Corps. Show it on the donation page. Bravo.

You have lost your mother, but you've made $40,000. Hope it was worth it. Yeah. Well, let me say something. Look, people should not have been storming the Capitol. No. You know, and these people who committed the crimes and, you know, we saw people die there. They need to be held accountable.

But there's something particularly twisted about turning in your family and then raising money off of it yeah if she called the fbi privately and said i know who that is oh my god that's still kind of like man it's a tough question but you you blood is thicker than water there are challenges though sometimes doing the right thing and holding those within your own groups and your own family accountable when they do something very seriously wrong. It's another thing to post on Twitter, hey, look, that's my mom. My mom, yeah. Give me money.

Welcome to a brave new world. Well, more like 1984. What's your thoughts on this, Luke? I know you've been 1984, man. Yes. What are your thoughts first? Luke broke. He just like, yeah, oh, gosh.

Salt's not good right there. Looks like I told you so yeah looks like i told you so i'm i'm far far beyond i told you so i'm i'm i'm i've been there a couple weeks ago it's more like yeah okay um i think you know social media also gives you a false sense of community a false sense of acceptance it all goes along with the trends. And I think it's fair to say that this person wouldn't do this if she wasn't incentivized to get likes and tweets and responses. Now, of course, it's also fair to say we don't know the exact relationship they had with their mother or their father. So it's not that, you know, we can't judge here because we don't know what happened back and

forth, but for it to end up at this stage where it's this public and this nasty, and the media celebrating it by highlighting it and talking about it and this being incentivized in the algorithm, it's something that's, you know, awfully wrong, in my opinion. It is the twisted

nature of social media and the current media ecosystem. Look at what happened with What's-Her-Face's daughter. Who is it? Kell twisted nature of social media and the current media ecosystem look at what happened with um what's her face's daughter who's uh kellyanne conway yeah her daughter is like saying a bunch of private family stuff and the media is basically getting off to it yeah and it's like dude first of all i i gotta be honest i look at george conway and kellyanne conway and i'm kind of like is that real that's upsetting yeah no is that real yeah is this like reality tv it's like big boss yeah no like they're a married couple one's anti-trump one one's pro-trump that's like a sitcom yeah it really is he's hating trump and she's loving it it's the odd family and their daughter is like and i have to post on tiktok yeah she's making tickets like yeah corbett corbett no but how it's like i find it creepy that this this kid can get on social media and the the

big news companies are celebrating yeah well they're salivating they see this little this young this young girl she's like she was like 15 years old yeah she was also like thinking from their point of view like the kids point of view to what luke said it's like the sense of community they get from social media is way more important than their own family. Yeah. Which I think is like the sadder and the more grave part. But like in no world I would like think about the fact that, oh, Twitter can replace my family, let alone the fact that I would make money off of it. Yep.

So that's the more concerning part. It's the GoFundMe. It's the PayPal posts. It's the raising money. Yeah. It's the interviews that she gets with these media hits. I think she already did an interview with like Good morning america so the girl who turned her family yeah so she's she's already you know going big so i got cloud i want to say is i'm gonna be speaking

for the latinos on this one we would never do that because we get a chancla straight to the face that would be a dev sentence for latinos so we would get the chancla to the face that would happen there would be a wooden spoon that's right yeah yeah you want to give us the indian perspective from the indian family perspective we would probably like not have social media until you're 18 yeah yeah perfect i love that well in the cap in in capitalist america children sell you yes well that's what it is though the only reason she was willing to do this is because she knew she could make money oh yeah forty thousand dollars that's what it is, though. The only reason she was willing to do this is because she knew she could make money. Oh, yeah. $40,000. That's a lot of money.

Wow. That's a lot of silver. That's more than 30 pieces. Famous, yeah. What is silver at? Probably like a staff. $25. Yeah, probably like a staff position at Media Matters as well.

Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Well, think about it. What's your family for, right? I mean, first of all, they're your family. You care about them. They set you straight. But the reason why we develop social bonds as like

people in society is that we survive when we stick to our families now here's this young woman who's found a better way than her own family see what's her parents what are they really gonna get for her she has a place to stay when she's ever kicked out she'll never be homeless yeah but if she sells them if she sells them you know for for 40 000 pieces of green paper she gets 40 000 bucks that's more than her family could offer think about this if protecting your family provides certain resources for you to survive and selling them out provides more you can see what some people are willing to do to get that right that's twisted stuff man this is yeah i mean it's it's a big part of what we've seen with like black lives matter wanting to disrupt the nuclear family

yeah it is all good for that ideology your cause your cause is central to whatever you stand for like it doesn't matter like your close ties it doesn't matter what your family is it doesn't matter your principle if you're for this cause nothing else matters well in 1984 you know the fictional book they indoctrinated the children to be the snitch squad, making sure that they would get all the adults in trouble for wrong tech billionaire giants that are unaccountable, do whatever they want, and control the sphere of conversation. But not only the conversation, also thought. When you have that important aspect of controlling what people can and cannot think, what they can and cannot see, you have emperor godlike powers that could influence children in the most awful god

listen forgiven ways that you can't even imagine what do you think you know what do you think jack dorsey thinks like if if you were to go to him and say jack children are turning in their parents for money because of what you built do you think he would care i don't think he sees that though i don't know i'm saying like if you said it to him do you think he would care? I don't think he sees that, though. No, I'm saying, like, if you said it to him, do you think he would care? No. I don't think he would care. I think he'd be like, well, you know, people say whatever they want. And, you know, we discovered Twitter.

We didn't invent it. So, you know, it's maybe unfortunate that they did this. That's the thing. Like, he pretends that it's still a platform, like, when it comes to matters like this. But, like, when it comes to matters like people on the right saying about thing like then he becomes a publisher about it but then i then i won't allow like things to like stand in my way it was you know i think i i'm i could be wrong but i'm pretty sure they said they discovered twitter they didn't invent it oh exactly yeah they fell upon it exactly yeah they were talking about how people started developing a culture on twitter like the

idea of the at symbol was was created by users who were trying to make it so when you'd search, you'd see – you could search at someone's name. And the hashtag was originally so that if you wanted to find the conversation about it, if you search for just the word, you'll get everything. If you search for the hashtag, you get conversations. Just the conversations, yeah. So then Twitter is like, oh, we'll incorporate this. Before you could click the retweet button, people would just copy and paste and then put RT and then call it. Oh, I remember those days. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or they would do MT for modified tweet. I remember that because as far as I've – since I've used Twitter, they've always had the retweet function, but people still did RT and MT to share things. Interesting. And there's also – Instagram still doesn't have this stuff. So their perspective is we didn't do it. Don't look at us. We have no responsibility to the destruction of the human mind perspective is, we didn't do it. Don't look at us. We have no responsibility to the destruction

of the human mind and human society. Or they like it. I mean, look, if you want to reshape a society, you need to break it down first. And that's happening. Whether it's intentional or not,

I'm sure there are people sitting back and be like, it's a good thing. Let it fall apart. I know for a fact many far leftists have been talking for some time

about tearing it all down so they can rebuild anew. You know, we're down with the old and then they can make their their new glorious secular heaven yeah well whatever they think is going to happen yeah but uh there's a there's a funny comic you ever see that you ever see those comics where it's the guy and he says oh no all the time yeah yeah there's one where he's like in his room and he's like i want things to be different and the next one is him smashing everything with a baseball bat and the next one is everything destroyed and he goes oh no different from what yeah right exactly so you get these people who

go out and they're like i want things to change smash fires and you're like congratulations you got change and now it sucks yeah like like a like a mother-daughter relationship like that's gone now like what's going to be like thanksgiving for that kid now they don't care because they have their dopamine hit and they have to go Exactly. But I'll tell you something. She's going to be an adult and she's going to have no family. She'll be all alone. And she'll be in like an old folks home. You know what's really going to be interesting too about all this?

Our parents can rely on us. But millennials aren't having kids anymore. Nope. Like the birthing rate is like gone for millennials. Where are all these millennials going to do when they're older? Look, these average people are going to find themselves with limited or no savings. Yeah, millennials don't even own anything already.

They're not going to own anything. You know what the average net worth of a 28-year-old is? This is outdated. It was from a year or two ago. Negative $1,000. You know what the average net worth of a 30-year-old is? $1,000. Oh, boy.

And then from there, it goes up to like $12,000. And then 33-year-olds is like $30,000. I'm just talking about the states, right? Yeah, in the states. It's old data and my numbers aren't completely accurate. But it's like around 30 is when they finally get out of debt and start accruing wealth. So these people, they're not having kids, they're not having families, they're not making money. I can understand

why they're renting. They don't own anything. They're renting. And they're going to be 80 years old, renting, and then they're going to be like, I put my pants. And there's not going to be anybody to help them. They're not going to be able to afford it, and they're not going to have any kids. There's going to be a lot of cats. Yeah, but is a cat going to wipe your butt? Probably not.

Is a cat going to help you in your wheelchair down the stairs no they will eat you take you out to the you know get breakfast or he's gonna sit there wasting away and another factor too tim i think what we're seeing with the with this pandemic and something that we've already been seeing with the millennial trend is we're actually going to see less families with the millennials so we're not going to have that structure family mom and dad at home working and just having that i think we're not even going to have that structure family mom and dad at home working and just having that i think we're not even going to have that so i would expect as we kind of keep going on that crime is going to keep going up divorce is going on maybe people are getting married less and you know the whole family structure in america just seems like it's becoming

like this old idea now now it's radical to be like i want to start a family and you don't want to have kids and stuff. That seems radical now. It's insane. We need it. And the really scary part is there's a lot of undertones. There's a lot of propaganda subliminally, especially in Hollywood, incentivizing a lot of this stuff, trying to make it popular, trying to glorify it.

But in reality, it's going to cause a lot of human suffering, and it's going to make a lot of people dependent and weak in a way that they could be taken advantage of by some of the same special interests according to my own personal opinion that that will dive in on on this forsaken person who's downtrodden who's downtrodden by the ideas that they put out that they benefit from that suffering so we have to understand this is a big cycle that needs to be exposed let Let's think about these parents. This girl turns her parents and she makes 40 grand. What do they do now?

They're excised from polite society. They're called terrorists. They're facing, you know, they're probably going to face some kind of charges. They probably can't work again. I mean. Well, they're going to have to. These people won't just cease to exist. No.

They're going to need food. They're going to need access. I think, you know, there's talk about this this this uh collapse of the united states i did a segment earlier china are the people in china are flocking to buy this book that predicted the demise of the u.s 30 years ago what is a family to do if they've been removed from everything they can't get jobs they're going to find a way and they're going to find their own parallel economy to make money cryptocurrency Cryptocurrency could maybe help. But that just leads us to this reality where you're going to have blue states saying, we

don't want to work with you. And red states saying, it's fine. I mean, think about this. This woman's going to be able to go to Wyoming or West Virginia, find a job. They're going to be like, we like Trump too. By all means, come here and work. She's not going to be able to do that in New York City. True.

So the Trump supporters and the Republicans and the right, the red states, are going to become entrenched, and the blue states are going to become entrenched. And if you're a Trump supporter and you live in New York, you're probably already gone. So we're seeing the ideological divide is getting worse geographically now, and we're probably getting to that point where things are going to fall apart. So in that sense, speaking of things falling apart, you guys went to California. I have this story here from USA Today. They say, California is a failed state.

How do we know? They're moving to Arizona in droves. The story is from August 31st. But they say a few things I want to highlight before we talk about what you guys did. Because you guys went and actually talked to business owners and people have been impacted by the failed policies of California. They say California's energy policies have failed. They they say so have those policies to stop homelessness harsh pandemic response didn't help move here leave those policies at home what they're talking about now is people in california leave they're bringing the politics with them that destroyed the state

so this is a story i covered quite a bit ago. There was, you know, the failed state of California. There was also the return of bubonic plague, typhoid outbreaks, disease, homelessness. So you guys put together, you did a documentary. Is that what you did? Yeah. So what happened, Tim, is we actually kind of stumbled on this project on accident. So I went back home to California. That's my hometown in Palmdale. So I went back around Thanksgiving. And, you know, being here and, you know, covering politics in D.C., you do, even though I always hated myself for it, you do get stuck in kind of like a D.C. bubble. You know, you forget how bad the pandemic is for the rest of Americans. So as soon as I landed back home in California for Thanksgiving break, I visited my hometown.

And it's decimated it's just you know unemployment is high most of my friends their parents own these restaurants now they're going out of business uh you know it's just it's just horrible so i right there was like do you know the unemployment rate right now in california i don't know the unemployment rate but as of right now um we do have 17 percent of restaurants across the u.s so about 110 establishments are closed permanently and yeah and um and november the restaurant industry lost over two million jobs wow so being in california i started talking to the restaurant owners about the outdoor dining band just how they're doing so as soon as i started interviewing

um these restaurant owners it was powerful stuff like they would be crying in my face saying hey jorge on thanksgiving week we get the news of the outdoor dining ban we have to now lay off the majority of our staff and it's like and what they made me realize too is like we're not just laying off workers these are families that you know these people have to put food on the table and also kind of being in this project I got to learn that a lot of these couples both of the couples would be in the restaurant industry so now you have two servers now let let go. No help from the government. And at the same time, since they're in the working class, their kids are at home all day on Zoom.

Their kid's depression is up. So it's just this horrible thing. And so Sonic came down, and we were able to really focus in on these American stories because a lot of these restaurant owners feel like they've been left behind. Not only that, another aspect is they spent thousands and thousands of dollars on outdoor dining and just accommodating to to california's crazy rules i mean la county was the only county to do an outdoor dining band so just in la county that's affecting 30 000 restaurants these people were told we're shutting down indoor dining so they spend tons of money to set up outdoor dining exactly and then as soon as they do they go that's banned too and not only that

the crazy thing is is evil the brewery the breweries in L.A. County were already, they couldn't serve outdoors unless they had a kitchen. So I was able to interview one brewer who spent $100,000 on a kitchen just to serve outdoors. Only for two weeks later, the county said, nope, done. Shut it down. So you have this massive brewery stuck on takeout beers. It's impossible. And it's just heartbreaking to hear the owner say, we love this business and we don't want to let people go.

But at this point, what can we do? We're putting this tough corner. So the beautiful thing was is that me and Sonic really got to document these stories, tell these people stories. And we put a documentary together. We released it actually today. So it's on Daily on daily caller um check it out we worked really hard on it and it really meant a lot to the to the rich to the restaurant because for them they feel like they don't have a voice but this is the kind of thing you got to send to your friends who don't believe you the people the people who think everything's fine or that that we're not facing

serious trouble let them see let them see let them hear in the words of the people who actually had their lives yes sorry i know know you got to work on me. When you talk to these people, one thing you realize, like, people in D.C. or, like, people in New York or people who run media, they have given people this easily digestible pill, which is, like, a single variable way of thinking. Like, during this pandemic, the only thing we have to consider is life saved versus life not saved. Like, the only thing you need to worry about is saving lives. They don't consider the fact that these people who run these bars, who run these restaurants, they have lives too. If you close them and then you say, oh, we are saving lives, that's not a solution. That's just a lazy way of thinking. There are other variables to consider here.

The waiter, he has a job. He probably has a family. He has a child. What about him? That's one factor about it. And the second factor is the hypocrisy. If you drive 10 minutes away from these restaurants, you walk into Target, where people are crowded in gajillion numbers, especially during the holiday seasons. And that's literally in front of these people. You can look out of the restaurants, which are closed, and you see these Target target pack and they realize that these like lockdown measures do not make any sense whatsoever and the fact that it's so blatant is like insulting to them you know i think it might be a red pill for a lot of these small businesses exactly yeah but i think most people are going to keep voting d they're going to walk in and go democrat and they're going to walk out and walk away and it's going to keep happening

it's not going to stop yeah look we don't know what's gonna happen either that or like people who have the resources to leave will leave like but unfortunately these people do not have the resources to leave they have poured their life's savings into you know creating something out of nothing and hiring people and like once you have that mentality which is like okay my job is to be responsible to like put food on other people's table like my waiters my chefs you have you're living like a different life you're not living a life of like a staff riding in new york times who lives in a pod and whose only job is to ride like you're responsible for other people you're in like you're an entrepreneur and like people do

not empathize with these people easily and the media has done like a horrible job of translating that well they don't because they live in the journalists are like that randall exactly yeah they're not going to come out and be like oh you poor restaurant owner no we we already saw one story where there was a business they set up they had a walkway and they put a tent over it and put tables there so that people could use their public walkways at outdoor dining and the journalist snitched on them and said we need to inform new New York they're doing this. Yeah, and the interesting thing too, Tim, is in California, I've grown up there my whole life, but when I was growing up in the early 90s, California was a state where everyone

around the country was moving to the Golden State. You wanted to be in California. I remember when I was growing up, my dad is an immigrant from El Salvador. He just has a sixth grade education. My dad was able to have the family of five on one income. He was a trucker. And, you know, we would go on vacation. We owned our cars.

That life is gone in California. It's becoming almost like a Latin America economy where the lowest class doesn't pay for anything because everything is subsidized. The middle and the working class pay for absolutely everything. And they're living on scrums. They're the ones who have to get by. And the rich, it's all good for the actors and everyone else. So in the documentary too, I say, you know, this is the golden state. It's now only golden for the elites and everyone else is left behind. One of the more powerful interviews that I got, Tim, is I interviewed

an owner of a pizza restaurant. And when we spoke about the Gavin Newsom situation, she was just crying in my face saying it's an absolutely slap in the face for him to be able to eat in the French laundry indoors. Why I have to lay off my employees who are literally making like 13 bucks an hour. You know, some of these folks are surviving on like 120 bucks a week to having kids. I mean, depression is going up. It's honestly some of the saddest, saddest things that we're seeing. And we're just trying to focus on these stories because it just feels like the average American story is not getting told.

And, you know, I think it was a blessing for me to get out of that DC bubble and to see it and say, you know what, this is what I need to really be focused on is telling these stories. And the next project we'll be working on, and we don't want to get too much into, but we're going to be interviewing parents and they're going to be talking to me about, you know, their kids going through this depression indoors. I, you know, I put out a tweet saying, hey, parents reach out to me. And Tim, I got over 100 messages. And this is kind of the sentiment of these messages saying, hey, I had an 8-year-old, a 10-year-old, 12-year-old. They were all A's, athletic.

Now into the pandemic, all F's, social anxiety, doesn't want to talk to me. I'm speaking to a dad right now where his son grabbed his gun because he fell into depression during this COVID lockdown, 12 years old. He shot himself in the mouth trying to kill himself. But the way he shot it, thank God, he's in stable stable condition we're going to be interviewing him to tell the story but this stuff is tim is just not getting told in the news and not only that and um when i was speaking to his parents now that made me realize they're telling me like hey jorge i'm making less money because of the pandemic my kids are stuck at home depression's up i'm also spending more on groceries double because since the kids are home they're eating more so it So it's just all these little things that we would never consider.

And sometimes, you know, look, I know what happened in the Capitol. Obviously, that's big news and we need to talk about it. But at the end of the day, let's not forget that, you know, average Americans can't put food on the table. And it's not only California. It's across the state. You know, we can only focus there. But let's not forget about the average Americans. They're getting left behind during this pandemic.

I was reading there was something, a doctor gave an interview or something where he talked about he's never seen such a deterioration, not just from older folks, but from even kids. Kids, yeah. Kids becoming out of shape, overweight, their blood pressure's bad, they're just obese, diabetic, because they're not exercising, they're sitting in all day, they're not getting vitamin D, and they're getting depressed. Social anxiety for these kids. Yeah, they're becoming like, you know, just a homebody lying around with bed sores, crumbs on their chest. And then they're supposed to interact through, you know, computers.

Man, get out of these cities. The best thing you can do, I guess. But some people can't do it. You're trapped. Exactly. Like a lot of people, like people like, oh, leave California. Just move to Texas. Like move to Nashville.

It's like a lot of people do not have like the, you know, means to do that, and California, let's not forget, it's like a beautiful state, it's like a huge beautiful state, where, like, a lot of people live, and a huge sloth of population, like, feel like they're left behind just because of the governor, just because of the mayor, and it's just, like, a harrowing thing to see, and, like, when you meet these people, the thing you realize is that, like, they are so, like they are so like the fact that like Tucker talks about a lot of the fact the classified like it is so obvious to them that people and people think about California. They think about, oh, the place where actors live. Oh, well, like celebrities live. But the fact that they're like actual waiters or actual restaurant owners who do not have jobs like that is classified.

You know, I was thinking something. I was like, when I saw Gavin Newsom doing that fancy dinner. French Laundry, yeah. What was it called? French Laundry. French Laundry? Yeah. That's the name of the restaurant. It's one of the most fanciest restaurants in the world.

I mean, the bill was 400 grand-ish. 400 grand? What? The bill? How much was the bill for the- That's what the pizza owner told me. The bill should be closer to 400 grand. Like, 12 people ate there.

In Vegas, I remember Shane Smith from Vice spent $300,000, I think, on dinner. Oh, my. But, yeah, yeah. So, when I saw that, I have never been closer to raising my fist and yelling, workers of the world, unite. Seriously? That's like socialism time. But here's what I'm thinking.

Like, is there a thing where we can, can like unite the workers but not as communists and just be like yo these politicians that's the new right dude that's the new right that's the populist new right well like people realize that we us being workers have been left behind by the government and the only like the way to unite is like not exactly like following bernie's rule but like what tucker says it's like you as a worker has have a right like the fact that the whole concept of like someone having a job like the same job at retiring at 60 or so old with his rolex is like outdated should be worrisome so yeah let me say probably one of the most bannable things uh so so let's let's recognize people on the right should not be voting for republicans let's see we see what they do they hate their own voters right yeah but let's also recognize the right should not be voting for Republicans. We see what they do. They hate their own voters.

But let's also recognize the left should not be voting for Democrats. Yep. So everybody made a mistake here. How about we all agree the workers should unite, but not to change, not to make socialism, just to get rid of corrupt, crooked politicians. And I mean this peacefully. I mean we need to have people come together, a populist movement, saying we might not agree on the economic policy, but we can all agree the elites don't have our back and are selling us out and stripping away our access and our rights and our liberties. And if the workers do unite, it doesn't have to be for communism. It can just be for the benefit of the people. Basic American rights and the right to make a living.

Like, if I'm being honest, I was, like, far from being, like, a populist guy. Like, I was, like, close. I would say, like, I was close to being, like, a neoconservative, like, before this year began. But, like, when 2020, like. You're a Paul Ryan conservative. Not me. But when this year started rolling down, I realized that, like, holy shit shit this class divide is like so obvious and like these like the washington like does not give a single crap about any of these people at all

like if they're like like the stimulus thing was like the perfect example for that like i talked to this waitress who was like 28 years old single mother has like a four-year-old son and she was like the last stimulus i got was like when everyone else got there, like $1,600, like back in like April, May, I don't remember. And like that was the last one. And like, and ever since that,

I've been earning $200 a week. And like, like I have a son who was like two years old. Like what about him? You know, I think people need to start realizing you can't count on government. You can count on them to put the roadblocks up, but not to give you the food after they screw you over. And so I know a lot of people don't want to hear it.

And it's maybe easier for me to say, but we're going back to, you know, we're going back in time in terms of our in terms. Look, let me stop there. We were in a golden age for a long time. You go to the store, you get cheeseburgers, you get pizzas. Boom. Just like that for dirt. You go home, you put in the freezer, you put in the freezer, put in the freezer you put in the oven you got food that's that's easy living you know people used to have to work from sunup to sundown just to have enough food to survive and it was work non-stop and we're

heading back in that direction for whatever reason you want to say i think people need to become self-reliant independent start realizing the government's not going to get your back and even if we do change as politicians it's not going to change anything. No. Power tends to corrupt and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely. I mean, wages have been going down in this country for the past 30 years

and they keep going down. Life expectancy in America is, I think it's like where like it's just dropping, dropping, dropping because now Americans have to work more jobs. We also have the opioid crisis.

It's, I mean, and then the pandemic obviously doesn't help a lot of this stuff. Classical economy. Yeah. Yep. Back to your point, like the thing is like yes like meritocracy is like still a thing and like

people should like believe in it but at the same time people should always question like these congregation of powers and anytime there's like this like unwarranted like mammoth of power to any corporation to any government people should like question that or at least like is this right that this one company has like access to everything that we do like websites groceries like flight tickets like everything like you if you fall out of line and this company doesn't like it like that's it like that's it for you advantage from like normal society that's why i think we might be heading towards peaceful divorce, as many people have called it. Because like I said, people who can't get jobs anymore because blue states won't hire them, they can get jobs in West Virginia and Wyoming and Nebraska or whatever.

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That superchat was actually from earlier in the night. Jordan Jones mentioned that last time I was this early, my wife was pissed. A lot of people are mentioning that Lou Dobbs dropped. There's going to be some declassifications, Bombagate stuff. We'll see how that plays out.

Yeah, I've got to watch it. Raymond Field says, what do y'all think is going to happen on the 20th? I think originally I thought we were going to have some drama and some violence, but I think there's just so much National Guard. You can't even drive around D.C. The roadblocks are insane. I think it's going to be calm.

That's just me. My favorite conspiracy is that Trump planned everything. No, for real. In order to actually get the National Guard into D.C., you needed an excuse. And when the left came to D.C., they actually argued to get rid of the National Guard and that it was wrong.

So the conspiracy theory is that it was wrong so the conspiracy theory is that the trump supporters did it so that they would the left would demand the national guard that you know what i love about the conspiracy stuff is that they say trust the plan but the plan's been wrong every single time yep yeah yeah so i i gotta be honest i i mostly think nothing to be honest yeah i don't i don't think anything i think i and i hope nothing and i hope they they take the security seriously but i think biden's gonna be president and then hopefully things simmer down i think there's still tensions you know an escalation coming in various forms but i think the 20th is probably

gonna be we'll see though because there's talk about sunday or whatever and i have no idea what any of that stuff is there's other people theorizing that there might be something like a false attack but that's just rumor mills that i'm hearing based on no evidence no evidence tim i don't know if you've seen the little like flyers going around of saying like hey storm every capital in the u.s it was like i mean the flyer looks super fake it looks like it has like just trump supporters are disavowing it yeah there's no american flag there's no group associated to it so yeah we'll see animal room says where the heck is crowder seriously oh i know you mentioned that last time i was here too well some people have said that he normally takes breaks into the new year but this is a weird time to take a break maybe or maybe he just he takes breaks and maybe

no exceptions i don't know though it's been it's been a month right yeah he's gone he tweeted something cryptic yeah it's really weird trisplaine all right let's see we got here student of history says listening to the video at 10 a.m stopped listening to a documentary about sir thomas cochran and you talked about building culture and i had an idea of dunkirk style doc uh docutainment about john paul jones the og revelry rev war ba john paul jones was yes he was indeed about John Paul Jones, the OG Rev War BA. John Paul Jones was. Yes, he was indeed. Petty says, whenever they call something a threat to democracy, replace democracy with either establishment or international power.

Yep. All right, here we go. Gino Bendetto says, why are 20,000 National Guardsmen deploying to D.C. for an online inauguration? For perspective, there were less than a quarter than that for Fallujah. Oh, wow. That's crazy. Yeah, and, you know, there were less than a quarter than that for Fallujah. Oh, wow. That's crazy. And, you know,

there was a lot of apprehension against the police state a couple weeks ago by these same individuals that are now cheering it on. So it's a little weird to have them congratulate, you know,

20,000 plus armed individuals as a large-scale military mobilization. Yeah, that's... That's some people comparing it to a police state. Yeah. Insight of the Ages says, why not support locals?

Have Dave Rubin on. Dave is great. Dave is always welcome to come and hang out. I think he's a rad dude. Why not support locals? I'll support locals in that sense that I think what he's doing is good and great, and giving a platform to people is great. My concern, though, is it's still susceptible to a lot of the same problems.

Now, with Locals, you have your own Stripe account for payments, meaning if your payment gets banned, it's on you. But there's still the fact that Locals is the server hosting the content, and you still have that potential for, I guess, failure. Meaning that somebody who does something with DNS or hosting or whatever for locals could go to them and say, we don't care. You are associated with this group and we will terminate our contract unless you do X.

And that creates a threat to the business where when Patreon started banning people, what the CEO was saying is like is like look we've been threatened by these companies and we'll have to ban a hundred thousand people who are making a living unless we ban one person so we have to get rid of the one person and we don't want to but we have to and that's the problem with centralization now they locals i believe is playing on decentralizing all that stuff but here's what I did. I just made my own website. I know not everybody can.

So if you're someone who's got like a moderate following and you want to have your own website, Locals makes sense. For me, I run a business where we're trying to expand and I have the ability to create my own website. And that is just better for me all around. The only risks I have are directly to me. My vendors, my hosting, my domain, all of that is on me and nobody else. So for me, that's preferable. Let's read some more.

Oh, that's interesting. Michelle Pate says, did you know that you can no longer look up Trinanana Shabba Da Pressure and Batacath Care? Both search bring up absolutely no searches. May, amazing. No Dice says, hey, Luke, I love your work and your shirts I'm thinking of escaping from Long Island, New Hampshire Partly because of you, keep up the great work, Tim and crew Yeah, definitely try to

See what community is right for you There's, you know, don't rush decisions Do a lot of research, do a lot of homework And thank you, really appreciate that Robert Galera says Tim, you've been talking about reassessing culture I agree. But how do we do that if we're the counterculture?

Also, I'm tragically in California. Grew up here all my life. I hate what it's become. Didn't vote for this. Bummer. I throw it to Daily Wire. You know, the easiest example is the Daily Wire is doing that movie. And think about in 15 years, you'll have some dude who's like 18.

And they're like, what do you want to do? And it's like, I really want to work for Daily Wire Productions. Their movies are awesome. And then someone will say, that's that conservative Ben Shapiro thing. I don't know, man. You ever see that movie they did about this? That was so cool. I'd love to make movies with them. That's what it's all about. So you create a culture, you create some kind of inspirational system and a place and a platform and a community in which you can cheer on young people and make them feel good about themselves otherwise they're going to go on social media sell it their parents for for a quick buck give them an opportunity to feel good you need to make that space justin smith says crowder is controlled

opposition he quietly stepped away at the perfect moment and will show up once the bans are over and still have a spot on YouTube. Also, his rhetoric will change to fall in line. I don't know about all that, but they if I didn't cover what happened at the Capitol, Facebook would not have given me the X. So there you go. But I don't know if that says anything about Crowder. I mean, maybe he just took the holidays off. That's a simple solution, man. It's only two weeks into January.

So, you know, I've had conversations with people who do YouTube who talk about how mid-December to mid-January, they stop working because viewership drops dramatically. It's substantially harder to produce because most people don't want to and they're going to their families. And then you got New Year's. And then after that, advertising rates are gone because companies don't restart their budgets and actually start putting money into ads until February. So they're just like, what's the point?

So I'm not surprised. I'm not, you know, I don't think, you know. Joseph Flynn says, hey, Tim, a few of my friends consider you a grifter and disregard anything you say because of it. I don't see it. But is there anything I could show them of you to disprove that notion? No, because grifter doesn't really mean anything. Like, what does that mean? What are they accusing me of? You can watch the segment that the podcast episode we did with Dave Smith the other day where we spent like 40 minutes ragging on Donald Trump,

which was a lot of ragging on Donald Trump and foreign policy stuff. But the problem is, if they're calling me a grifter, it means they're probably getting out of context smears from leftists. And it's like, what do you even do at that point? If they're not willing to listen to a show, a lot of the leftists who watch the show I did with Vosh actually started saying good things about me. And there was this joke thread about, you know, it was essentially like, which one of these people is worse? And people are like, ah, Tim's all right. He's not that bad. He's kind of dumb, though. So when they actually watched a show because there was a leftist on and they heard what I said, they were like, oh, those things actually aren't true. You know, so what they'll do is, I'll quote someone,

they'll claim it came from me. There's some activist groups that took me. I said something like, if you were to ask someone who's a white nationalist, they will tell you this. They took the last part and claimed I was the one that was saying it. I was trying to be like, no, they'll tell you they're doing, you know, they believe in themselves and they think they're the good guys. So it's always some kind of out of context nonsense. But there's a good reason why there's almost no articles that get written about me because people who actually try and watch and figure out what i'm saying after after you get these left-wing grifters who will like make a youtube video and they're like here's tim pool saying this when the journalists who like writing smears actually go to the video they're like it's not there it's not real and so this

doesn't happen and then nobody writes about it michelle pate says, Luke, I was also emancipated from New York as well. Can I buy your shirt anywhere? I would love it for myself and family. Thank you so much for asking. Of course, you could get it on wearechange.org forward slash shirts. So thank you so much. And if you want the exclusive I am a gorilla T-shirt, because everybody loves the gorilla emoji, go to timcast.com, click shop, and you will see the exclusive i am a gorilla t-shirt because everybody loves the gorilla emoji

go to timcast.com click shop and you will see the brand new shirt we're gonna have a limited edition tinfoil hat wearing one as well so you know i'll point out luke's shirts are always very serious and political and how is this serious what i say i'm no no no no no i mean like it makes a political point right mine is literally a gorilla saying it's meaningless. And then I have the Harumph I Say shirt. Meaningless. So the point I'm bringing up is if you want to have a good political humor and political art. And support my indentured servitude. You can do that with the shirt things.

Uh-huh. The same. I'm Brandon says, hey, Tim and the IRL gang. Do you think we should all go back to the MySpace days? Also, do you think big tech is just shooting themselves in the foot? I wonder. Big tech is too big to shoot themselves in the foot, I feel. I don't know.

I kind of want to open a MySpace account. I miss Tom. Yeah. I miss the top eight was cool. Doesn't Timberlake own it now? It's not even the same thing. It's like a music thing. We should go back to MySpace.

I like when you click the profile, the song's playing. Yeah, it's kind of a vibe. You know what I was thinking? We mentioned this before. Just set up your profile as a book on Amazon. So be like, you know, you can follow me at Harry Potter on Amazon. I'll be in the comment section posting my thoughts and ideas on politics. That's the future.

That's the way to do it. Find me on Amazon.com forward slash book 1984. I'll see you right there. Super Bam Bam says, if there wasn't such a divide in communication between the two camps maybe the trump supporters would have would have had some notice of this person i hadn't even known he was an agitator and was ousted by blm until now exactly so we here at the irl podcast like to look into the facts and figure out what's going on and we discover this guy john sullivan even the left doesn't like him. You know, they're like, don't give him to us.

We don't like the guy. We kicked him out. But he probably is still a leftist, just, you know, violent one. Yeah, radical. Anthony Zavaro says, John Sullivan is probably CIA COINTELPRO agent provocateur. Anderson Cooper is former CIA.

I am a gorilla. Spin the male vitality. Anderson Cooper was an intern, right, for two summers? Yeah. And then he went to iraq i think right well i don't know about that part yeah he interned i believe he went to the middle east yeah he interned twice and then he decided to go and just do journalism so he made his own press card went to iraq to cover was going i think was it desert storm was it that long ago it has to be yeah yeah yeah i remember he was in the middle east with his own camera eric miller says sullivan is not left or right he's a mainstream media intern trying to

start his career i took a break and have been practicing guitar and making music and maybe your tier system could be based on engagement and seniority yes interesting he could be the left-wing baked alaska yeah oh daniel says, Politicians are always trying to fix problems that they created while adhering to their political ideology, unlike statesmen and public servants who fix problems as they are identified by society

for the betterment of society in spite of ideology. Yeah, like Ron Paul, I guess. Can you name anybody else? How many people would you consider to be true statesmen trying to solve problems? I'm sorry, statespeople. Statespersons. States states persons people states states persons tulsi gabbard josh holly

maybe i don't know yeah maybe there's a small i think josh holly's gonna be a primary holly like got himself in the hot water by like with this right thing it's like yeah before that he was like thomas macy yeah yeah yeah yeahareth Green says, Pool Sunday. To continue our conversation from last night, your view of the power of big tech ignores the time equation. Twitter and Facebook did not exist 20 years ago. So what makes you so sure they will exist in 2040? Competition will arise on its own in 10 or 20 years. Maybe technology will change. And Facebook already was in decline.

Young people were fleeing Facebook a long time ago and they were struggling. And a lot of people were saying Facebook is what my parents use and they were using other things. So yeah, we'll see. Stefan Maurer says, Tim, you are wrong. Government regulation is not the answer to big tech censorship. If politics is downstream of culture, they'll need to reestablish a culture of free speech. We don't have a culture of freedom, but of regulation now.

No, I agree with you. That's why I've been telling everybody the move you have to make is cultural. If voting isn't going to get you one because Democrats control culture, you need to, you need to engage and create and inspire. DJ White says, is it possible that banning Trump just made him more powerful than he was before in the end? It's probably a pretty self-defeating ban overall. Do you know that they censored Hitler and they imprisoned him?

And then someone mentioned this the other day. What is it called? Like the Beer Hall push? Is that what it's called? I don't know. It was where there was an attempted coup. He got arrested and charged with treason. And then he came back later.

And the lesson from history is not that fascists always try and cry censorship. It's that the censorship did not work. So keep that in mind. Gareth Green says, your whole theory that tech suppression will destroy the suppressed opinions assumes that big tech will not shrink and lose power on its own. The demand for platforms for the band means that eventually such platforms

will find ways to beat them and they will go the way of White Castle. Wait, is White Castle still exists? I think so. Yeah. I don't know. But I respect the point. Gab.com, for instance, just built their own infrastructure. So there you go. Matthew Oslin says, Tim, I love the show and all you guys do.

I live in Chicagoland and work in a union auto shop where almost everyone is a Democrat and Trump hater. How can I make progress in getting help to see the other side of the coin um i like what fleck has did like trump's kind of bad but he's not that bad right no come on it's not that bad he's bad though you ever see those videos yeah yeah yeah he walks around people like yeah okay i guess that's step one very easy and then people would say nah he's pretty bad like well what do you think is bad you know okay that Okay. That's kind of bad. You're right. But it's not that bad. Yeah. Okay. That's not that bad. It's that simple. I don't know, man. Talk to people, be honest and calm and rational, and then don't start fights. Let's see what we got here. Gareth Green says, didn't Parler find

a new hosting site? Anyway, it's a try, try again scenario. If they failed, that just creates the opportunity for someone else to learn from it. Try again and eventually succeed. Twitter will go the way of White Castle hamburgers sooner or later. I mean, I'm pretty sure White Castle still exists. Yeah. Am I wrong about that? I thought so, yeah. Me too.

Jake DeGaff says, Beanie Club. Yes, the Beanie Club. Yes. Become a member of Beanie Club. You know what? We probably sign way more people if I called it the Beanie Club. Oh, the Beanie Club. Yes. Become a member of Beanie Club. You know what? We probably sign way more people if I called it the Beanie Club. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I heard someone call this place the Beanie Compound. Yeah, that's right. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you have a Santa Beanie. Does that count as a beanie, the Santa hat? No.

Yes, it does. That's a historic Santa hat. Andrew Mickelson says, in the morning, everyone. In the morning? Love the bipartisan media coverage. Does anyone else feel like 2020 was a giant sigh out? Shout out to the No Agenda podcast, the Propaganda Report podcast and Grimerica podcast. Shout out.

Thank you very much. Let's see. We got in this year box of super chats. Jimmy Quinto says you think Dems want a symbiotic trade relationship with China to avoid war and make money while pushing for war in Russia to secure the industrial military complex and avoid bankruptcy? Yes. And it doesn't work. That was their strategy the whole time with China, that by creating lines of trade, it would prevent war when China eventually took over as the global superpower. It didn't work. China did not normalize, became more authoritarian

and more despotic. We just gave them power. Publius says, so you talked about the personalities and their addiction to social media, but what about

the addicted users that are being cut off cold turkey? Doctors today do not recommend doing anything cold turkey that is habit forming. Yeah, what do you think

is going to happen when someone's got like all these followers and they get banned? Like, what do you think Trump's going to do? I don't know. 88 million followers? Yeah.

He can't tweet anymore. Nothing? He's going to go to sleep? No, no. Mar-a-lago. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to go play golf at his resort and say, I don't care, it's mine.

Abad says, you ask us not to use the same tactics. Then what do we do? Quit our jobs? doesn't do much but out us and leave us vulnerable how do you overcome hate when that's what everyone responds to yell at someone be stoic you fuck i'm not gonna read it uh shopping carts too true um culture culture and comedy ryan long is great you guys seen line Ryan Long stuff? It's because he makes fun of everybody and that's why Joe Rogan's great and that's why there's a bunch of comedians

that do a good job because make fun of everybody is unifying and, you know, look, I don't have all the answers, man. Jay Rico says, Tim, I agree. Tim, agree with Jorge. Being Hispanic,

you'd get the chancla. I feel many of us still believe in the family structure. Maybe that will help in our future. What's the chancla? It's the sandal. For those who don't know, the Hispanic mom, she's the Tom Brady with the chancla, bro. It doesn't matter how far you are.

She's nailing it. She nails you in. I don't know why. It's in the genes. It's in the science. It's the way it is. I don't make the rules. I love it.

Bob Newman says, I just heard a yar. We talking about sea shanties? Trying to catch up after getting in here late. Love it. the way it is i don't make the rules i love it bob newman says i just heard a yar we talking about sea shanties trying to catch up after getting in here late love it your doc says hey i'm leaving palmdale for texas it sucks here schooners is closed down i don't know for how long that's funny palm does my hometown that's where we shot a lot of the documentary so there you go what's schooners that is that a famous it's uh it's a it's a local bar yeah they then the thing is too the schooners uh when the outdoor dining band came for like the first two weeks they were defying orders doing their thing and i think la county public health basically came down and says you guys keep doing your thing we're gonna pull that liquor license so shady soldier says

they already introduced legislation to abolish the electoral college i think it's time to get more aggressive like shutting down dc well i haven't seen that honestly i've seen some stuff but it'll never happen it requires a two-thirds ratification that's just not that's not that's not gonna happen yeah they propose stuff all the time i've seen like some sweeping outright gun bans and i'm like it'll never happen because you can't you would need two-thirds ratification from all these states you're not gonna get it republicans are closer to two-thirds than democrats are republicans have 30 states right so you would need what like 37 so yeah not gonna these these massive changes won't happen and because of joe manchin they probably won't be able to pack the supreme court nathaniel gordon says everyone should cancel the youtube subscription to your channel and go to

your actual page on a side note how do you feel about a independent audit of every government official oh i'm for it absolutely like it'll really happen they'll they'll weaponize and use it against the politicians we do like yeah so yeah but that is good advice nathaniel if you are a member or uh just want to support me in general support both then go to timcast.com become a member and we're going to have uh exclusive behind the scenes content events and live streams coming soon just for our members. So we should have one put up tomorrow because we're going to hang out a little bit after the show and create some exclusive content.

So let's just do a couple more of these super chats. Bobcat says, Tim, look through history. America has survived far worse than anything we face today. We're not facing anything we haven't beaten before. Just trust that our founding fathers weren't idiots. I agree. But it doesn't mean that we aren't going to go through conflict and turmoil.

It may be the end of the American empire in the sense that we have military bases all over the world. America will exist as a country. But it will change. We're a radically different country from when we were founded. So we should still do everything to prevent it from getting worse. Yeah. Logan Luck says, here is my stimulus. Your work is so important to me.

If we had an honest journalism apparatus, the corrupt government could not exist. The MSM is the real enemy. Logan gave us a $500 super chat. That is wow. Seriously, really appreciate it. Don't super chat us anything you are in need of. If you need a stimulus, by all means, you know, the show does. The show is doing all right.

Our biggest concern is the ban hammer. The purge is coming. Jack Dorsey said it so i'm like well look if i get banned and i'm i'm totally out then go fishing i'm not going to cry about it but before that happens i will set up safety nets and try and make sure we that doesn't happen to us track media only says as cali fails do you think they will just allow a divorce they will come for what others have to support their existence. 10-year tax, things sound familiar?

Far left takes what others have. It can't sustain itself without what you have. Yeah, California wants to pass a tax where if you spend at least half a year in the state, no, no, I think it's 60 days or something, they can tax you for 10 years out of state. That's never going to fly. That's not going to fly, but it sounds like California. You said theft wrong, Tim. Theft? Taxation?

Yes. Let's see. Gareth Green says, White Castle still exists, but it was once the dominant hamburger chain before the rise of McDonald's. Really? I don't like White Castle. I like them. Let's see. AmbiguousCastaway says, dude, they are censoring you and other republican

super hard on twitter check your suggestions on twitter i don't care yeah they could ban me and i'd be like well you know i guess it kind of sucks um i hate twitter so much oh here's good news todd harris says only fans didn't ban trump maybe we'll see him there soon my goodness oh it's amazing all right we'll take uh take just two more. Tim Pauls says, Hey, Tim, we have the same initials, LOL. Will you be releasing more original music? Also, I heard Trump declassified Obamagate stuff. Not sure if you guys covered that.

Got here late. We didn't. We do have more music coming. I record scratch tracks for like six songs. So we'll see what happens when it happens. And then I probably have like probably a thousand songs. I'm not even kidding. But, you know, of the songs I would actually probably want to use, I've been playing music since I was like seven years old.

So, yes, there's probably like a thousand different songs. There's probably like 50 that I think would be worth recording. So, all right, last one. Let's see what we got here. Silently in Atlanta says, the force is with Luke. So Dog's new name is logan by the way ever see the movie trial of chicago 7 flip red and blue and take the third party and regroup roll the effort to change the culture and backbone of your republicans well right on i think it's really

uh culture is the key man cultures i agree i definitely agree with that so what's the name of your dog i think it's going to be atlas that's not bad yeah i like that i think atlas is fair but then people are going to call her addy or something whatever yeah it has double meanings well gentlemen oh yeah one one last thing thank you so much tim pool's mom for sending me an alien dog chew toy i really appreciate it it was really uh kind-hearted of you the dog loves the chew toy, and we love it too. So thank you very much. And you want to mention your fancy shirts one more time? Oh, yes, yes.

So my email list is on wearechange.org. Definitely sign up on there. My independent news organization is We Are Change on YouTube. And because I got demonetized, I started making shirts, and that's the best way to kind of support me. I think I have over 100 shirts now. Check them all out on wearechanged.org forward slash shirts.

Cool. Gentlemen, thanks so much for hanging out. You want to mention your socials and your documentary? Oh, you can just look me up at like Sagnik Basu, S-A-G-N-I-K-B-A-S-U and you can find the documentary

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To these owners it was very important to get the story out there. Right on. Thanks for hanging out. Maybe, hold on, one last thing. Maybe we could do

a Daily Caller versus Tim Pool team airsoft match soon. Sure. And we should live stream that and maybe do like a whole vlog series. Yeah, that would be

members only content right there for you. That would be fun. We're in the middle now. We're a big wooded area and yeah, I got some combat training I want to get out of my system. It'll be really fun to do it up with Airsoft and have those two different teams together.

And we could even have betting odds or not even betting odds, but let's play for a wager of some sort. Cool. Cool. Sure. I like that. That's a good idea. Don't forget you can follow at Sour Patch Lids.

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