Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL#558 - FBI Raids Trump Official Over 2020 Support, DOJ Seizes GOP Phone Data w/Rep Troy Nehls

Episode Date: June 24, 2022

Tim, Jamie, Seamus of FreedomToons, and Lydia host congressman Troy Nehls to discuss the pre-dawn raid on the Democrat's political opposition, the congressman's call for investigating Hunter Biden's laptop and impeaching Biden, the SCOTUS gun ruling, whether to investigate 2020 rioting, the far left's successful demoralization of police and ensuing violence in their cities, whether Biden will be run again, and Biden's bizarre simpleton cue cards. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In a pre-dawn raid, the FBI searched the home of a former Trump DOJ official over his support of Donald Trump's claims in the 2020 election. And man, it just kind of gets crazier and scarier every day. The FBI, the DOJ, they've been issuing more subpoenas. They've been going after Republicans who supported Trump. They've even seized cell phone data from, I believe, the GOP chair out of Nevada. Basically, if you were concerned about 2020 and you sided with Trump, looks like the weight of the DOJ is coming after you. And to me, this seems entirely political. So I don't know. Should I just say it's a political civil war at the very least, watching law enforcement be used against political rivals. In an op-ed for the Washington Post,

one writer said, if the purpose of all of this is just to stop Donald Trump from running again, why not just use the power of Congress to do so? As if to imply it is believed among people in media that the only reason they're going after Trump supporters and Trump himself is because they're scared he'll win in 2024. And I think that's basically what they're doing, trying to find any way possible to use the 14th Amendment to stop Trump from winning another term. And that just says to me, like, I mean, it's all right there in front of your face. So regardless of what you think, either you're on the left and you think Trump staged a coup and lost or which and January 6th. So you're most you left and you think Trump staged a coup and lost, or which, and January 6th, so you must be thinking Civil War, or you support Trump and you're watching the DOJ go after their political rivals.

So trying times indeed. We'll talk about all that and a bunch of other stories. Supreme Court, obviously this one's really, really big, just struck down a gun control law in New York. So it's a major victory for gun rights advocates. We saw this one coming. Kavanaugh, stopping short, he wrote in concurrence,

yes, yes, you can keep and bear arms, but you still need to get a permit. And I think that's dumb, but whatever. We'll talk about it. Joining us to discuss all of this is Congressman Troy Nails. Tim, good to be with you. Yeah, do you want to...

Good to be the rest of you. Absolutely, thanks for coming. Do you want to introduce yourself? Sure. I represent Texas 22nd Congressional District. I'm a freshman, so I'm the new junior woodchuck on the block, but it's an honor to serve. I'm a very conservative member of Congress. I joined the Freedom Caucus, but it's been trying times. You know, we're in minority up there and and uh it's difficult when you know that uh for two years you're not getting anything meaningful across the aisle so uh we have our battles each and every day but uh i keep the faith and and stay after it keep fighting you also were a sheriff i was law enforcement for 30 years i was a sheriff for the past eight years and it started with my father way back then when and he was a sheriff military man older brother sheriff as well military and then i have a twin brother and i that uh joined the

military as well and we're both in law enforcement uh it's been an honor right on thanks for coming it should be a good conversation thank you we got seamus i'm seamus gogglin of freedom tunes we just released a new cartoon today about the the woke christian inquisition i think you guys should check that out you really'll really enjoy it. And if you want to support our cartoons, freedomtunes.com. Become a member for five bucks a month. Get an extra cartoon every week and support the cause. Thank you.

Hey, everybody. Just look at you, Jamie. I'm Jamie Kielstein. I like that the first guest is a member of Congress. And I'm like, I host a podcast called A F-Up's Guide to the Universe. Except it's not F-Up. It's the one I can't say, but you can get it at JamieKilsteinPodcast.com

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But don't forget to smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Let's jump into the first story. And let me just get started with two words. Civil war. Yep. I had to say it because everybody was waiting for it.

The fire emojis are already in the chat. Feds search home of Jeffrey Clark, former DOJ official who pushed Trump's false election fraud claims. They say Clark is a former DOJ lawyer who former President Donald Trump sought to install as attorney general in the days before the January 6th Capitol riot, as top officials refused to go along with his vote fraud claims. It wasn't clear what investigators were seeking at Clark's home, but the raid was part of the Justice Department's sweeping investigation into the effort to overturn the 2020 elections, according to sources familiar with the matter. Now, what we're hearing from conservatives and Republicans is that Jeffrey Clark was simply trying to understand and investigate the claims that were being made. On the left, they're saying he's an insurrectionist who is going along with Trump's schemes. I don't think either narrative matters.

What matters is the narratives exist. If you're on the left and you're looking at this, you're like, yes, the federal government is going after Trump and his opponents. Certainly, then you think Trump's tried staging a coup and we're in the midst of some very serious crisis or you're a Trump supporter and you're like, this dude wasn't doing anything wrong. And the weight of the DOJ is crushing down on their political rivals. I happen to think that the DOJ, the January 6th committee is just trying to stop Trump

from winning. That's my opinion. But either way, it looks like this country is being completely ripped apart. Yep. You know, I've said it once and I will say it again. In 2016, when there were accusations made that the presidential election was rigged, we investigated the accused. In 2020, when the same accusation was made,

we decided to investigate the accuser. Make of that what you want. I just don't like how the left is the anti-police state side, quote-unquote, the anti-prison industrial complex. But if it's somebody who we don't know why yet if we know why and the dude did something wrong okay but we don't know why yet and just to see democrats blindly be like yes queen and like so excited that just trump supporters are being arrested or searched or whatever i don't love i would assume that clark probably knew this was coming

he probably knew it was coming you look at what the DOJ has done at the sham committee. They've gone after Steve Bannon, Mark Meadows, anybody even affiliated, associated with Trump, anybody that was texting with him, tweeting with him even days prior. This is all about Trump. This is that sham committee, and it's an illegitimate committee, quite honestly. And Jeffrey Clark, I'm pretty sure he was subpoenaed and he pleaded the fifth. So I wonder if this is retaliation for him refusing to actually answer those questions. Because you know what the January 6th committee is doing.

I'll tell you, anybody who's testified for the January 6th committee, you've been played. You watch the videos they're putting out. They're pulling quotes out of context. That's what they wanted. It's a non-adversarial committee. There's no cross-examination. So they're

just getting people to say whatever they want they're taking interviews with the trump sphere and getting out of context it's a show trial it's a sham and now they're using the weight of the federal government to crush anybody who is supporting trump and it's all one-sided because there's no republicans on it yeah exactly exactly yeah mccarthy asked me to be one of the five and i wanted to be but for your listeners you need to understand that this is the first time in the history of Congress has a speaker ever rejected a

minority leader's picks to be on a select committee it's never happened before she didn't like Jim Jordan she didn't like Jim Banks and some of the others so we're not on it but we're doing our own thing I think it's clearly meant to manipulate people who don't pay attention so they go it's a bipartisan committee because we have – We've got Liz Cheney.

Yeah, right. You know what I love? I feel like if we're talking about actual political arguments, the real factions are libertarians and conservatives. Because liberals are just saying whatever random crazy nonsense. I just don't even understand. They're like, Liz Cheney is great. I'm like, what? Yeah.

You hated the Cheneys. No one in the Cheney family has ever gotten us hyped up on fears of terrorism or anything like that to strip people of their civil liberties. I don't think we have anything to worry about here. Wow. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. If you've been watching the hearings

and Liz, the first hearing, 20 minutes, pretty sleepy. She must have a serious crush on Trump because she mentioned his name over and over and over again. But truly, I think what it is, she despises him. She thinks about him when she wakes up and when she goes to sleep, she's thinking about him because she despises him.

Everybody on that committee, they hate him. And I believe, Tim, you're absolutely right. This is about Trump in 2024. There's no other reason for this. Of course, they can't talk about inflation and gas, so it's all about January 6th. And I think it's having, sadly, a little bit of an impact, and maybe that's why you're seeing DeSantis numbers improve a little bit. Yeah, I like DeSantis, though.

I'm not saying he's not a good guy. I'm just saying that I think that as they continue to do this, it's all one-sided, and you keep it on, keep it on. I was watching MSLSD the other day and CNN, and that's all you saw, Trump, Trump, Trump's name on it. So they're trying to convince the American people. It's like they think he's still president or something. Yeah, exactly. It's been two years, man.

Go home. Blue it on, bro. Yeah. They think he's secretly still the president. I got to say, I agree with you, and it's unfortunate's unfortunate because like you said it is having something of an effect but if it wasn't you'd almost just call it a weird group therapy session they're all just getting together to vent about how much they didn't like trump and he was bad it just seems like a very emotionally satisfying thing for them rather than something serious people are engaging in for good reasons they're just all trauma bonding yeah

this is so uh ro so Robert Barnes was on, he was saying he doesn't think they're going to actually criminally charge Trump or even do a criminal referral because if they do, then it's Ron DeSantis. But what they want to do

is demonize Trump enough to where they'll have something to campaign on. So come 2024, Trump comes out and he's like, you know, I'm going to be running again.

And then they're going to be like, remember all of that crazy stuff we showed you in the FBI? Oh, don't vote for that guy. Oh, it's the end of days. That's what they want. It's Russiagate 2.0. Right.

Exactly. I wanted to ask you about that, which is do you think your constituents – because when I go on Twitter and, you know, the people I follow are – a lot of them are famous Hollywood people or people on the left still. And my people on the right, like everyone's kind of talking about it. Do real people care about this, or do real people just want to talk about the economy? Are there working poor constituents who are coming up to you talking about January 6th? Is it an issue that affects real people right now? I think when the people that talk about it, they said there's very few people watching this stuff. Listen, they cannot talk about inflation.

They can't talk about gas prices. But the mom and dad and everybody else that's paying five bucks for fuel, that's what's on their mind. The food, all of it, the inflation, 8.5%. So what else are the Democrats going to play? I mean, really, quite honestly, they're pretty clever about this. Let's just talk about January 6th because we can just beat Trump every day. Beat him, beat him, beat him, beat him because they don't want him coming back in 2024.

No, I hope he comes back because I think he'll be the 47th president if he comes back. He will be lost. Could you imagine? I do. I believe he's coming back. Could you just imagine being at a gas station and then all of a sudden you hear someone just yell out in anger like, Guys, son of a rat. And you're like, oh, man, you must have saw the gas prices. And you walk over, gas prices?

No, no, I'm watching the January 6th hearing. It's that Viking guy. Like – Shaman. I came so close to losing it all that day. Oh, my gosh. This is so hysterical, the entire narrative. He's the sitting president of the United States at this point, has complete control over the military.

He's the commander in chief. And his attempt at an insurrection is to vaguely dog whistle that people enter a building without weapons? Yeah, basically. What? If anything, we learned he's really bad at insurrection. So we should all feel safer for a third term. Like, yo, homeboy tried it and he was not good at it. Second term.

Second term. You know, they're pretty clever, too, because they show the worst few minutes of footage, and they'll show law enforcement officers get hurt, and there's not a law enforcement officer across the country that would support any law enforcement officer getting hurt. No. And if you assaulted a law enforcement officer that day, go to prison. Not jail. Go to prison, not jail.

Go to prison, lock them up, and I think we would all agree with that. Yes. But I tell you something, when I give tours of that Capitol today and I gave it last week, and when you go through that beautiful statutory hall, if the individuals inside that building wanted to destroy that building, they could have.

There's monuments everywhere. There's paintings. They could have destroyed it, but they chose not to because most of the people inside that building didn't do anything wrong. They were there. They shouldn't have been there, but quite honestly, they didn't do anything wrong. One guy got acquitted of all charges. A video showing the cop waving him in. Yeah, and it's true. There's nuance, right? You did have people on one side of the building

who were rioting, who broke the doors down. On the other side of the building, the police removed the barriers, opened the doors, waved people in. Those people didn't do anything wrong. The people who broke in and were causing problems did. One guy tried claiming that he was let in, and there's a video of him climbing through a broken window, and they're like, no. I don't think so. He's like, why would they just leave

the window open? There was a pie on the window sill. They texted me, said, smell for the pie, then cover your fist with a bandana. Punch it. I don't know if they're going to charge a dog. I mean, triumph the dog now with Unlocked. Oh, that's right.

No one charges triumph the dog. My point is even when you look at the people who did break the law, who should be prosecuted, it still wasn't an insurrection. Well, and this was kind of, maybe this is a stretch, Tim, but this was, you know, Occupy is you had normal people marching peacefully, which is our right to do, and then you had people destroying property, and those are two very different groups of people. Of course. Well, with January 6th,

it is fair to point out, this is the Capitol building, and there was an effort to count the electoral votes. So it's bad that gets disrupted that that puts it on a special level but it was a riot it was a riot in a really really bad one and and there's and and there's questions about security and and how we should be handling this but the funny thing is uh on january 20th 2017 hundreds of black clad far leftists romped through D.C., smashing windows and setting fires, attacking people,

and they were all arrested, and almost all of them were acquitted except for the people who actually pleaded guilty because they made a mistake. A bunch of people just said, no matter what, not guilty. And then the progressive lawyers and legal apparatus

were able to get these people out. Lawsuits were filed, and the city ended up having to pay the people they arrested, some of them. And one of them, I think, was a journalist. So it's funny when the far left rampages through D.C. during Trump's inauguration, the government doesn't care. But when you come to the government's house, all of a sudden they're going to put the boot on you. It shows you who they're really willing to protect. It's not you.

It's them. But only sometimes when you go to the government's house, right? Because we cannot forget the 529. 529. Yeah. Where they surrounded the White House. You know about the 500, what was it, 1,500 federal agents? No, no, 150.

I'm sorry, 150. Yeah, yeah, 150. I exactly, look, I'm turning this to CNN. 150 million. But yeah, 150 federal agents were injured. They surrounded the White House. The president literally had to retreat into a bunker. And what was the response?

Laughter. People were laughing at the president. It was a meme. Do the Republicans have a plan on holding a 529 commission, select committee? I don't believe so. But you know about 529. No, go ahead. I don't.

Thousands of far leftists ripped down the barricades in front of the White House, tried tearing the fence down, set fire to a White House guard post, set fire to St. John's Church. The president was ushered into an emergency bunker out of fear for his safety. And journalists were injured. 150 officers got injured throughout the protests. There is a photo, an aerial photo of D.C. showing fires all over the city. It was so much worse than January 6th. But I got to tell you, man, Troy, you see, I think the issue is the Democrats, they play offense.

They hold these committees. Republicans don't do it. Why don't the Republicans announce a select committee on 529 and start bringing in people, filing subpoenas? I think what you're going to see is once we take over and we will take over the House in January. There's no question about it. And I think Leader McCarthy has stated that he's going to obviously form some select committees. I think we'll be looking in the Hunter's laptop and COVID issues, Afghanistan, that dismal withdrawal, and obviously the southern border, fentanyl. So I think there's going to be some committees established. I think the judiciary

and oversight and government reform are going to be very, very busy for the next two years just looking at some of these things. But as it relates to the 529, I'm not certain. But, you know, it's sad. I mean, January 6th was a difficult day. I was one of the last guys there, you know, protecting that chamber, having actual conversations with the individuals on the other side. So it's just a sad day. And I think the American people look at that. It was a black eye on America.

I mean, we've got to be clear. It was a black eye, but it was not Donald Trump that brought those people inside that building. I've got a tough question for you. Yeah. Will you support the impeachment of Joe Biden after the Republicans take over the House? Without question. Ah, there you go. Without question.

I thought it was going to be a hard one. No, no, it wouldn't be. And it wouldn't just be him. That was, in fact, the easiest question no my orcas needs to go you need to get rid of some of these others here because i've been down to the southern border i mean i go deflect down to the southern border but i've been down there my orcas telling the american people the southern border is closed no it's not i'm down here in the water with griff jenkins from fox news and there's people walking right across so don't tell me and then don't stop

lying to the American people. Sorry, I think he should be impeached over Ukraine. I think you guys need to launch an investigation into those dealings. It's remarkable how Donald Trump got impeached over he was impeached over Ukraine, I believe, right? That was one of the phone calls.

For looking into what Biden was doing. And it was clever. The Democratic establishment and obviously the neocon Republicans who work with them were able to take what Joe Biden did, stick it to Trump, and use it to impeach him. They said Donald Trump engaged in a quid pro quo with the president of Ukraine when what actually happened was, in my opinion, when you listen, when you see the transcript and you hear about what Trump was saying, it sounds like Trump didn't really know what was going on. It sounds like Trump watched Fox News and then saw some video where Joe Biden's like, I said, you're not getting a loan guarantee, a billion dollars unless you fire the prosecutor.

Well, SOB guy gets fired. And then Trump's like, what's going on? And then he calls him and he's like, what was that video? But look at the transcript. He's like, what was that video about? And he's like, look into it. And that was it. And they were like, impeach him. Why? Joe Biden went to Ukraine when the U.S. government approved a billion dollars in loan guarantees. He told Ukraine and bragged about it, by the way.

If you don't fire the prosecutor, Victor Shokin, I will block these loans. And the president of Ukraine told Joe Biden, you can't do that. You don't have the authority. And Biden said, call the president, see what he says. The man admitted to having no authority to a quid pro quo, gloated about it, laughed in a room full of people. Turns out Victor Shokin had a dozen plus investigations into Burisma, where Hunter Biden sat on the board getting $83,000 per month.

Now, I'm not accusing Joe Biden of having done that for the purpose of protecting his son. I'm saying it just so happens the prosecutor was investigating a company his son worked at, made a lot of money from. Here's the best part. According to Hunter Biden's laptop, they shared bank accounts. So that means the money that was coming into Hunter Biden, Joe Biden had access to. They also shared phone numbers. I look at that and I'm just like, how do we not have an investigation at the very least? I'm not saying Joe Biden's guilty. I'm saying that's beyond probable cause to be like, maybe we should investigate what happened here. I'm just realizing me and my father are not as close as we should be. That sounds awesome. But this, I mean, and that's

exactly why the media covered it up, right? And that's exactly why the media covered it up, right? And that's exactly why it was suppressed by all the major social media companies. We've had other Republican prospects, you know, I've asked about this, like, well, when it comes to impeachment, we're going to need this, that. You're just like, we're doing it. I really appreciated that, actually.

No issues with that at all. Quite honestly, we've got to wait until, I mean, I really want him to be the Democrat nominee in 2020. I was just going to say. I was going to say, don't you want him to run? We need Sleepy Joe to be there. I saw you try to run and pick him up when he fell off his bike. Just like, come on, buddy.

You got this. You got this. I just want to backtrack to January 6th because I actually think it's really interesting, and I've obviously – I've never talked to anyone who is there where you're a Republican. So you're on the side of a lot of the people who are there. You're from law enforcement. So you have to gauge and assess threats and protect people. I assume even when you are not wearing that badge, you still take that very seriously. What in God's name was your mindset during that? What were you thinking? What

was the mentality? Did you really feel threatened? Were you in law enforcement mode? Were you in what is this political? Did you take it lightly? What was going on through your head? Great question, JB. It was COVID. So it's not like there were all 435 of us on the floor. There were many up in the gallery area as well. And I was there back towards the center, on the right side in the center, and we were going through the objectors of Arizona. And then all of a sudden, you know, there's no televisions on the house floor. They've got some in the cloakrooms in the back.

But then all of a sudden I started getting some text messages and stuff from family and friends. And then all of a sudden I saw a bunch of Capitol police rush in, uniform, non-uniform. And then one guy said, the Capitol's been breached. The Capitol's been breached. We're locked in. We're not going anywhere. So I'm back at the back there, and they're trying to get members out. And then all of a sudden they started banging on those center doors.

So if you see pictures of me in that blue shirt, I'm that guy in that blue shirt. You're like, this is White House down. It's happening. And then all of a sudden they broke the windows. They broke the windows. And then it guy in that blue shirt. You're like, this is White House down. It's happening. And then all of a sudden, they broke the windows. They broke the windows, and then it got a little bit ugly. Yeah. Yeah. Did you know who at this point? Were you in just defensive mode?

Were you trying to figure it out? No, I didn't know. I mean, all I did know is that some others put some furniture in front of those doors to make sure they wouldn't get through. They broke the windows, and then I was eyeballing a kid on the other side, a young man. And then I started having a little conversation with him because you see in all these pictures these Capitol Police officers having their guns drawn. And so I thought, we cannot have this.

I mean, people are going to get shot if we're not careful. So my job, my law enforcement background, trying to diffuse the situation, and we did it. And nobody entered. The Capitol Police said, you've got to get off the house. I said, I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving my brothers and sisters in blue. So I stayed there until the end. Cool.

Good for you. That's it. Not worried about, I mean, were you worried at all about your safety? No. No, my wife's a little upset, but there's the picture. Remember that guy in the beach? Oh, yeah. You see that guy?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, to be fair, me and the congressman almost had a wrestling match downstairs before the show, and I was like, I trust this guy can handle himself. We spotted each other's cauliflower ear. You saw my ear, Jamie. I did. You backed off right away. I spotted the threat before you spotted my ears, and then you were like, oh, boy, and

then we became friends. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, this is it, right? Yes, sir. Oh, yeah. Hey, look at that. That's me. My wife said, God, right? Yes, sir. Oh, yeah. Hey, look at that. That's me. My wife said, God, baby, I didn't know you were that receding that much at Ballhead.

But no, I tell you, I applaud the Capitol Police officers there with me, though. I mean, they did a good job. They maintained composure. They did not fire when that glass was broken. And initially, we thought it was gunfire because I'm ducked down. Oh, wow. And then immediately within seconds, there was another guy said, I don't think that was gunfire because it had hit me.

I mean, I wouldn't be here today. One officer did fire. Well, and that was about probably 10, 15 minutes after that photo. Yeah. And that was off my back right shoulder in the speaker's lobby, and that was Lieutenant Byrd. And I've been a very vocal critic of that shooting. I've had officers shot and killed, and I've had officers shoot and kill

people. So I know a little bit about self-defense and use of force, and he should have been charged with that. He never went to a grand jury. Ashley Babbitt was murdered on our nation's Capitol on January 6th. Will there be an effort, do you believe, on the part of Republicans or yourself to investigate or to get an indictment or anything like that? Well, I would like to. I think we need to continue talking about it, but I don't think there's going to be a lot of energy to move down that path. I've been one of maybe two or three or four in the House that has actually addressed this issue. We tend to like the Freedom Caucus.

You look at right now with most Republicans, and it's like they just want to get by. They want to do the bare minimum, just get by, get through the next day. They'll forget about it when they forget about it. Right now, one of the big issues that's really got me fired up is I'm a resident of West Virginia. That's where I officially live. Shelley Moore Capito, the Senator Republican,

has signed on to this gun control legislation. She's a Republican in West Virginia, second most Trump-supporting state in the country. I'm a little bit upset about that and that's the problem we had we have 14 republicans in the senate supporting this ridiculous bill so coming to the the aid of democrats who want to strip our strip us of our rights you know what bothers me is we never see the inverse we never see democrats being forced to negotiate with republic on easing gun restrictions and bringing about gun access. So that really – I don't know. That irks me.

I mean Republicans are expected to hold the line and compromise a little bit and then hold the line at its new position. Whenever a Republican actually tries to bring things back to the way they used to be or conserve, as conservatives are supposed to, they're called an extremist or a radical. Yeah. Well, I don't know. What are your thoughts on the gun stuff they're doing? You're right. There are 14 senators, and one of our senators, we have two, obviously, from Texas, John Cornyn and Ted Cruz, and I know that John Cornyn, I think McConnell asked him

to kind of help lead that effort and try to find some unity or compromise with the other side. One of the Democrats has a compromise. Yeah, well, I'm just letting you know that our big state convention was last week, and Senator Cornyn spoke at it, and they booed him pretty much right out of the room. Yeah, we talked about that. I think he's having a difficult time right now. They're liars. Shelley Capito said that this is not about red flag laws.

We won't allow that. The bill's literally got a whole section on red flag laws and funding it. They're just spitting in our faces and then telling us it's raining. What do you think – and I'm asking all of these serious questions maybe because I'm surrounded by Ian's crystals and I'm trying to bring unity to the country. But what are your thoughts on – I feel like Democrats and Republicans, they never come together to talk about, hey, how can we together help with these shootings, these mass shootings, or what can we do to prevent them? Or what are better law enforcement tactics? Obviously,

we just saw a complete disaster happen in Texas. And what ends up happening is it becomes, we want to take all your guns, don't take my guns. And we stop talking about people's safety. Right. And so you again coming from law enforcement, I feel like whenever Republicans on the news are asked about what we should do, we're not they don't really get asked about tactics. They just have to automatically be on their heels and defend the Second Amendment, essentially. So do you see any sort of compromise or what would you do with your experience about the shootings while maintaining the Second Amendment? Is there anything you think needs to change when it comes to gun control, gun legislation, or do you think it's more a mental health thing, et cetera, et cetera?

I think mental illness is a serious issue in our country, quite honestly. Just look at everything you see on television today. It seems to be a little bit weird. But nobody wants to see what took place in Uvalde. Nobody. We all hurt. If you have children, it's painful to watch it. I don't even quite honestly like even talking about it.

But when you talk about these red flag laws, and if you look at there's 19 states, I believe, that have red flag laws in our country. And some of those states are Illinois and New York and here in District of Columbia, Washington, D.C. And they have those red flag laws, and they're out of the mentally ill and domestic abusers and even talking about private sales transactions, 72-hour waiting periods. So they're all there, limits on how you could buy ammo, and they have some of the highest crime in the country. So I'm saying if Chicago, listen, Lightfoot, whatever her name is, if you can find a way to solve the problems, I mean, people are killing each other,

but nobody's talking about the people being killed in Chicago. I actually do have a very simple proposal that will maintain the Second Amendment rights and reduce these shootings. Promote fathers in the home. I'm not kidding. That's literally the answer. The profile

of most of these mass shooters, it's fatherlessness. That's a huge issue. Outside of the mass shooting incidents it's fatherlessness. That's like a huge issue. Crime, outside of the mass shooting incidents, you look at crime in Chicago, for instance, it's a lack of a father in the home. So we need to encourage at the very least two parent homes. We need dads.

We need moms. I mean, what's so frustrating hearing both of you guys is that when I lived in the very rugged neighborhood of Park Slope, Brooklyn, I, you know, all of my friends had never shot a gun. We're all very vocal, anti-gun, anti-gun. Anytime there was a shooting, we would essentially just assume any Republican would rather, oh, play with their toy guns than like save children's lives because we didn't know anyone. We never shot a gun. And then I moved to Texas and my friends were like, hey man, you want to shoot a gun? I was like, this is awesome. But I actually started

asking questions to Green Berets, to Navy SEALs, to firearms instructors. And I'm 40 years old. And it was the first time in my life. And I had a political talk show. It was my job. And it was the first time in my life I even heard statistics like, hey, it's not that we're against these laws. If these laws worked, maybe we would talk about these laws. But I'm literally just learning for the first time that like, nah, man, they don't even work. And in fact, some of the places that are the most heavily armed are the safest. Let's jump to the story. This is huge news from Timcast.com.

SCOTUS strikes down New York State's proper cause gun control law. Justice Thomas says second and 14th, second and 14th amendments protect an individual's right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home. That's an amazing statement. Yes. And the reason I wanted to jump into the story, too, is that the argument from the gun control side was that these laws are needed to prevent mass shootings. And he said one of those happened in New York where you have this law. It did not do anything. That's the most frustrating thing to me is that you get a lot of these gun control people argue for things that already exist. I had someone just send me an article, and it was like these laws could end gun violence.

And it was like four things that are already in place. Banning assault rifles. Did you Google this before you wrote it or shared it? Right. is because you're literally seeing people on the left just accuse, if you're not pro-gun control, that you just are cool with murder instead of asking people with experience with firearms, hey, what do you, as someone who has more experience than me, who's never touched a gun, what do you actually think we should do?

Yeah, I tell you what, the laws are there. The laws are on the books. They just need to be enforced. You know, in Texas now we have a constitutional carry, so you don't have to go out and get an LTC. You don't have to go out and get a license. It's a constitutional carry. So people are carrying guns, and I tell you what,

the crime in Houston is out of control, and people are starting to carry more guns. You're seeing sales increasing guns because if people can't count on their government to keep them safe, George Soros has gone out there and all these DAs are in these offices now across our country and they're leaving these criminals out. So these people, I think the American people are starting to carry more weapons because they say, I can't count on my government to keep me safe. I have to keep myself safe and my family. And I can't blame them because it's out of control. Our cities are burning, gentlemen.

They're burning. Now, is that working? Are the places with more people carrying, do they become safer because of that sort of fear tactic of, well, I don't know. I'll tell you this. When I finally moved to southern states, I certainly don't honk my horn as much when I'm cut off because I'm like, I don't know what that guy's carrying. I understand. And that's not the point. It's better to have it, not need it, need it, not have it.

But I'm just saying that criminals would have to kind of pause a little bit and take a second thing. Hey, am I going to pull a gun on that guy because he may have one? So let's talk a bit about this ruling. We can thank Brett Kavanaugh for blocking constitutional carry nationwide. Shocking. He said basically that this does not impact the existing permitting rules in 43 states. That means if you're in a state that requires a permit for concealed carry, well, they did not touch that.

Come on, Kavanaugh. You should have come out and been like the government. The government requiring permission for you to bear arms is an infringement upon your right to bear arms. However, he's of the opinion the government can not stop you from having it, but they can be forced to grant permission, which in my opinion makes no sense because if they can deny you a permit for any reason, then government permission as a requirement infringes upon your rights. But this does mean that it's likely going to impact Maryland, New Jersey. Obviously, it's New York, California, Hawaii, and the District of

Columbia. So this means in all likelihood, these states will now have to actually give you a permit. It's already prohibitively. It's restrictive in terms of what you need to do to apply for one. So while this is a good ruling, the problem is Maryland is not. So here's how it works. Maryland, New York, New Jersey. They say, OK, you felt the forms. You got the training.

Why do you need the weapon? And this is what the Supreme Court struck down. You can't ask that. You can tell them here's the requirements and then you got to give them the permit because these States were just saying why you need a legitimate reason for this. And no matter what you said, they went, nope. One of the plaintiffs said he needed a weapon because of a string of violent robberies in his area and needed to protect himself. And they said no. I'm like, what more could you ask for? If you're famous, if you're rich, some of these states will give them to you.

But New Jersey and New York still don't, even if you're rich and famous. I got rejected, and I just said revenge. Yeah, that's not a good reaction. Not a good one. Not a good one. I once saw a guy in Walmart trying to buy a gun, and he was openly talking about how he wanted to get revenge on someone. No, really? Yeah, and then he got escorted out by the police. They wouldn't sell it to him.

That's good. So basically what's happening now is the next move is, in my opinion, it's a good victory. It's tremendous. But what's likely going to happen is that New Jersey and New York will just create very restrictive permitting practices. That's what they were doing. And then they're going to say,

we can't ask you for why you need it, but we can ask you to for why you need it but we can ask you to undergo a three-month psychiatric evaluation so once again they jam you up then someone's gonna have to sue and this took seven years to get through seven years yeah you know i made it very clear that i will not be supporting this legislation coming through the senate and it's just it's very difficult. You think that all the laws that are out there, if you think creating more laws are going to keep the criminals from carrying weapons, they don't care. They don't care about your Supreme Court. They don't care about the chief of police or any laws. They're going to continue to carry these

weapons. They're going to continue to hurt and harm the American people, the people that are out there doing good things. The criminals have the guns and they're not giving them up. Now, hold on. You were a sheriff for 30 years or you were in law enforcement? I was a sheriff for eight and law enforcement for 30. Law enforcement for 30. So this is in Texas, I'd imagine, right? That's right.

So you mean to tell me that, you know, so one, constitutional carry is relatively new, but you actually encountered people who defied the law and carried weapons? Imagine that. Can you imagine that? Wait, wait, wait. This can't be true. It was illegal. It was like little Johnny. Little Johnny, do you know you're a convicted felon?

Yes, sir. Do you know you can't carry a gun? Yes, sir. Did they read the sign? They do not care. Did they read the sign? I'm not care. Did they read the sign? Did they read the sign? I'm not following.

The little Johnny doesn't care. Little Johnny doesn't care. And you're wondering, we had shootings here in Washington, D.C. here last week. There was a 15-year-old, and he had a gun, and then there was one a couple weeks prior to that. He was 15-year-old, had a girlfriend, 15-year-old girlfriend, eight months pregnant. He had a gun, and I'm thinking to myself,

you want to talk about the breakdown of the family, right? The fatherless. There's no fathers in their lives, and it's just causing problems. That's what it is. A major issue with shootings is that people don't have dads. And the problem is when you try and bring that up to the left, they don't understand.

I shouldn't say the left. I always do that. Leftists, they actually like guns. It's liberals. It's these urban liberal types. They can't think beyond single layer issues. They think someone got shot, therefore get the gun away. And it's like, but you need to understand the person who had the gun had it illegally

already. Your new laws won't change. So in Chicago, for instance, they're they're like well it's not chicago's fault they're doing the shootings they're getting the guns from indiana and it's like what more law could you put in illinois if you've already got them don't you get it you will ban all the guns everywhere they say they don't want to ban guns but then that's the only argument we'll destroy indiana well did you see the story yesterday the big beautiful wall you see the story yesterday uh a guy walks into. Did you see the story yesterday?

A guy walks into one of the stores with a gun to rob the store. And the clerk had a gun and shot and killed him. And the siblings of the robber, they were outraged on the news. They were actually on the news. The sister was saying, this is ridiculous. I know he went in and robbed him, but he shouldn't have been shot. He was pointing a gun at the clerk. The clerk had a gun and shot and killed this guy.

So this is the type of – I saw a similar story years ago. I just want to make one point really quickly about this. This is one of the really interesting and obvious flaws with the left is they want to be really, really, really harsh on potential crime, which is to say going after people who haven't done anything wrong because there's a potential that they might. And then when someone actually commits a crime, they want to be really lenient about it. Do you see the story of the woman in the cell phone store?

And the guy walks in and she goes, Hi, can I help you? He goes, Yeah, do you have a boom? And just starts mercilessly beating her for no reason. And these are the people who they will say should be able to walk without bail. And it's so cruel that the criminal justice system doesn't give them a second shot. But then when it comes to law-abiding citizens, they talk about restricting our freedom so that crime won't occur. It's so backwards.

Remember, Kamala set up an account for the 2020 riots to bail out those individuals. And that was a true insurrectionist. Listen, when you go up to Seattle and you occupy city blocks, what was it? The Chaz and the Chop and all that? That is an insurrection, fellas. Without question. They were burning down buildings, a police

station, everything else. And look at many of them. It was a mostly peaceful fire in Minnesota. That's what they said. Fiery but mostly peaceful. Fiery but mostly peaceful. There were mostly marshmallows. And the guys burning behind you.

Exactly. So I'm sorry. This is why I think the political factions are the cult and regular people. Because you have people who are like, the riots that burned down police stations were peaceful. They outright say it. They write articles saying,

in defense of looting. After the Ferguson riots, they were like, actually looting is revolutionary and they're defying the system. And I'm just like, did you talk to any people who lived in Ferguson?

Because they were angry about the rioting, begging for it to stop. And then these progressive urban liberal types, city urban liberal types, come out and write articles being like, actually, the writing is good. Because they're vapid, self-interested egotists who don't understand what's actually going on. I'll tell you, in Ferguson, people who did not live there exploited the chaos and started destroying things and looting them. And the people who did live there were linking arms saying, please, this is our community.

These snooty, progressive hipster types in New York, not wanting to do any amount of work to understand the situation, looked at it and said, I'm going to defend those brown people because there must be a good reason why they're rioting. And then wrote in defense of looting. And what it really was, was criminals victimizing a community and they defended the reason why they're rioting. And then wrote in defense of looting. And what it really was was criminals victimizing a community. And they defended the criminals because they're bad people. I will never forget footage.

What happened to George Floyd was horrific. I remember seeing footage of during the rioting. Two black women begging. Begging a white person to stop destroying property. And it's like, hey, these are the ones who, when you tourist, when you hipster tourist, go back to your co-op and Park Slope and all that stuff, they're the ones who still have to live here. It's their stores. You're not – they're not the ones who killed George Floyd. They're not the ones –

But look, look. When you simply say something like, I think when they burned down that guy's bar, it was a bad thing. And they go, well, you're racist. It's like, okay, dude. Yeah. There's no argument. They don't know how to think outside that. So we also see this.

There is obviously a huge part that class plays here. So we were talking about this with the Canadian truckers honking their horns. And literally one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the country, all right, honking your horn in such a neighborhood is terrorism. You're trying to overthrow the country. But you go into a poor black neighborhood and burn all the businesses down, that's just A-OK. And it's justified means. You'll scare all the moose if you honk in Canada. Let me ask you, Congressman, do you think that should Republicans regain control of the House? Assuming they do regain control of the House, probably the Senate.

Should there be an investigation into the 2020 riots? Maybe. I know you mentioned there's probably not gonna be a lot of energy towards these things because they're old, but I feel like we need a resolution. There should be

because I think a lot of the agitators in the 2020 riots, what we're finding out is many of these people are being paid. They're not even from the neighborhood. They're being bussed in. They're being called in. They're being paid by these organizations on the far left to go out there

and do damage and hurt our country. If you saw what took place here a couple weeks ago when they had the leak with the Supreme Court ruling, the Roe versus Wade, you saw some of the things in, I think it was in California someplace, maybe LA, that seems to be the, and there were cop cars that had windows being smashed. And I'm like, the knucklehead brake in that window on that car has no earthly idea what the hell Roe versus Wade is. He doesn't. He has no clue.

He has been paid. They get these individuals and they rally the horses. They pay them to go out there and spin things up and stir things up. And that's the problem you have with the far left is there's no civility there. They want to go immediately to violence and it's dangerous in this country and so this deal coming up here with the with this potential uh with the uh supreme court with roe versus wade i mean it's going to get

ugly i think national guard needs to be deployed it's already gotten ugly they've been firebombing uh clinics that are set up to help pregnant women so so um they announced the supreme court will be adding another opinion day tomorrow and as soon as i heard that i was like you got to be kidding me that's when they're going to do it aren't they and anybody who's ever covered riots so all the journalists out there the the riot squad i've been on the ground you know the worst possible day is friday Friday because everyone's off work and they got the weekend. Students are out of school. They got the weekend.

So if they do come out tomorrow morning and say, Rowan Casey, you're gone, they may be thinking you do it on a Friday because then no one in the media picks it up. But the lunatics are waiting. They're waiting with bated breath. It's going to be 1045. That's when they issue usually the last opinion around 1040. And they're going to say, Rowan Casey, you're gone.

And then you are going to see tomorrow night, if they do this, bonkers, riots. And then Saturday, insanity. And guys, if you need somewhere, a place safe to hide out on Saturday

and you're in New York City, the Beacon Theater, you go to festival.minds.com. It's a big theater. It's sturdy walls. That's where some of the worst running is going to be in New York. They're going to be like, where's Tim Pool?

I'm just realizing this right now. We didn't know. We had this event that's been planned for a long time. It's not just us. James O'Keefe, Tulsi Gabbard. They're going to have a lot of people there. Seth Dillon's going to be there. This just us James O'Keefe Tulsi Gabbard yeah you're going to have a lot of people there Seth Dillon's going to be there this is the making of an action movie

yeah where it's like we are going to get locked in and either turn on each other or become the heroes New York City has been waiting for like someone's going to eat the last Snickers

they're going to be like it's him he's a liberal he's one of them I'll be like Tulsi's a Russian asset and then we just keep going back and forth

yeah I mean they, they riot. They're encouraged to riot. As you mentioned, one of my favorite lines that we kept hearing repeatedly was, rioting is the language of the unheard. If only we were hearing them, they wouldn't be rioting. And then they turn around and they go, we have to silence conservatives or else they'll commit acts of violence. It's like, well, hold on a second. Hold on a second.

You're, like, concerned about violence from conservatives, so you want to make them unheard? unheard because you just told me like rioting is what people do when they aren't heard so what do you believe i just want to i just want to stress this one more time like they added an extra day to do opinions tomorrow and it seems like it may be like why else would they do that they have the next week to do the final opinions they could do it on monday and so i'm like we're gonna be in new york and it's gonna be like it on Monday. And so I'm like, we're going to be in New York and it's going to be like Dawn of the Dead. We're going to be locked in and they're going to be like, they're outside, they got the power lines.

We have votes tomorrow morning, mid-morning. They should have probably waited until we're out of here. Maybe they won't do it though. Maybe what they're trying to do is I think there's like 16 more opinions. Maybe they're trying to be like, we need to get all this out on Monday. So that means tomorrow we should do these ones.

Then Monday we can do Roe v. Wade. The holiday weekend. Wait for over the four. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Maybe. Oh, yeah. People won't be paying attention. Maybe.

Well, the crazy people are. The crazy people will be. But it's not a holiday weekend. It's a holiday month. It's a holiday month. It's MAGA month. That's right. MAGA month, the month of July. We've got to change all of our profile pictures to American flags and celebrate America.

I'm not kidding. And I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. And we grill every day. That's right. Every day. And then on the 4th of July, you have the fireworks. But yeah, MAGA month.

I'm ready. I'm not even kidding. I'm legit. We are done. I'm going to stop you. Buddy, I'm moving here. I'm legit like we are done i ordered buddy i'm moving here i ordered uh what did i order uh fireworks i hope how many hot dogs did i order 100 100 what is this yeah i think i ordered 100 hot dogs or is it 500 no it's not 500 i think that's when i'm moving my stuff from austin i'm gonna have to change my plans it's all month bro oh

it's all month okay we're gonna be firing up the grill all month. This is awesome. So I ordered this big thing from Portillo's, famous Chicago hot dogs. Every day, baby. And so we're going to be grilling. Moving is the best decision I've ever made. This is awesome. Everyone's going to be chilling.

That's work. Maga month, baby. Yeah, we celebrate America. Oh my goodness. What were we talking about? I wanted to get a little optimistic. Guns, Supreme Court, protesting. Man, I also, you know, it's just we – I feel like the rioting is sort of the on-the-street equivalent of what happens on Twitter where it's like do you actually want something to get done, right? If you actually want something to get done, you're going to want to talk to people.

For example, so I got not many. I've gotten, and I thank all of you listening, I've gotten thousands of new followers on Twitter and to the podcast since I've started coming on this show. But I've lost a couple of vocal fans of mine who are on the left. And they would just say stuff about you that was hyperbolic but also that I would disagree with. And they were like, how could you be on a show with that person? And it's like, hey, man, if you think we disagree on that, wouldn't you actually think it was a great thing for me to be on the show, for me to bring a diverse viewpoint, for me to become friends with someone who maybe I will even see my point of view like sometimes i see his point of view and they don't care no they will not listen and yeah and that's that's where i'm at so there's uh we've got this lefty guy who's going to be speaking on the same panel as us in

at the beacon theater and he had to put out a video explaining why he was doing it he called it a debate and so i got a message from this like left-wing guy that i i'm friends with and he's like you're debating this dude and i was like i'm not debating anybody we're talking about like it's a panel on media manipulation we're just hanging i mean i'm gonna sit there and be like i don't know he's like i'm i don't i don't i don't like debating people i'll argue with someone i'll try to correct him if i think they're wrong but i don't enter debates i don't like invite people here to debate me i don't do any of that stuff i just let's have a conversation it's a hang it's a conversation but the fact that he even had to make a video addressing it,

being like, here's why I'm doing it. And then people responded with like, yeah, but dude, it's James O'Keefe. Like, what's wrong with you? It's okay, whatever, dude. I don't, look, I don't want to live that way. I like being able to walk into a room with anybody and be like, tell me stuff.

Yes. It appears to me that the American people can't seem to be able to sit across the table from each other like this and agree to disagree. Yes. And what we're teaching our kids, in my humble opinion, when you see what took place with the summer riots in 2020, it seems like if we disagree now, all of a sudden we curl up our fists and we hit each other in the nose. And I think it's going in the wrong direction. What are we teaching our kids?

What are we teaching these kids to think, hey, if you can't resolve it, just go in there and hit them in the nose. And 2020 was bad, but we are one, Tim. We are one police shooting away from having an enormous civil unrest. I mean, if it's a white officer that shoots an African-American and there's any questionable call there. Al Sharpton has his plane on the tarmac. It's ready to go. He's going to fire that thing up. He's going to fly to that area, and he's just going to go in there, and he's going to be an agitator.

It's sad. That's not the way we should handle things. It's not even about if it's questionable. You take a look at the Ahmaud Arbery case. Do you remember this one? Fox News, conservative Republicans came out in defense of Arbery, and I was just like, well, look, I don't like the guy. I don't like the fact that anybody dies.

I don't like the fact that he died. But the story is just we had a couple lawyers on who broke it down for us. And I'm like, oh, OK, so this guy was a burglar. Like, yes, he's on camera committing a burglary. Yes. And so these guys were told by the police he was the burglar. Yes. So then when they saw him, they chased after him.

Yes. And they were told that if they witnessed a felony they could intervene to stop him yes but the police told them to stay stand down while they while they came to arrive and they didn't listen and i'm like okay and then what happened the guy who filmed it got the remainder of his life in prison and i'm like okay something doesn't add up here this this story doesn't make sense so it's's not even a question of if it's like, I mean, the Ahmaud Arbery case should be very clear cut

in what happened, but they will weaponize it and they will lie about it and they will make it questionable. Well, and I think that just like the left needs to keep a lot of their people in check when it comes to rioting,

when it comes to destroying property and stuff like that. We also, we do have a problem. There have been plenty of kids who have lost their life unjustly. And we need to talk about that as well. Like the one I always think of is Tamir Rice, where it was like,

you have like a 13 year old kid playing with a toy gun. And I think in law enforcement, I think, Oh no. Is there something I don't know? Yeah. Yeah. Don't tell me Tamir Rice is really like a 45 year old man. No, I think he was, I think – oh, no. Is there something I don't know? Yeah, yeah. Don't tell me Tamir Rice is really like a 45-year-old man.

No, I think he was – On the run from armed robbery. I think he had removed the orange tip from the gun and he's 5'10". Well, but so here's what I was going to ask the congressman from his law enforcement days is I feel like even if it is not racism, right, there is protocol. Like, unless you feel like you are in immediate danger, you want to de-escalate. If you can't de-escalate, you want to go hands-on. If you can't go hands-on, you want to go with taser. And then, in theory, pulling the gun should be last, or am I incorrect on that?

Well, this is what I do know. Yes. Is there not a law enforcement officer in America that's going to wake up tomorrow morning, they'll go to work, evening shift, or night shift, that says, I want to go out and legally kill somebody. I'm going to kill a kid. I want to go out there and legally kill somebody today. It's absolutely ludicrous to think. Because that officer that has to take that life, they're going to live with that for the rest of their life.

Correct. Even if it was a very dangerous situation. Yes. And the guy's pointing a gun at you. And it's so difficult for law enforcement today because of the people that are mentally ill. I mean, you have people that are mentally ill with all the drugs, the fentanyl coming across. They're running around in streets naked, and they're chasing officers, whether it's a small knife or even a piece of glass. And they're running at the officer.

So the officers have a very difficult time today, and they have to make very split, you know, second decisions. Did you see the video, actually, and Jamie, did you see this, where the news reporter

goes to the police conflict training scenarios? Did you see this one? No. And so the cop is like, okay, here's what we're going to do. We're going to give you this mock weapon that,

you know, it fired like spitballs or something, or paintballs. And they were like, you need to figure out when is the appropriate, like how to deal with situation oh no he so in the mock scenarios he kills a guy several times and in one he like sees a guy by a car and he's like what are you doing and the guy walks on the car and he just pulls and shoots and then the uh the

cop goes why'd you do that and he's like well i he was like he was just walking around a car and he's like but i i didn't know what he was doing. And I was worried. And it's like the reporter was like, in every circumstance he was given, the reporter actually killed the dude unjustly. In one, the guy – I think that just says something about reporters though, to be fair. Like journalists are interested in reading. There was one moment where the guy gets in his face. He's like, what are you doing, man? Get out of here.

And then he puts two in his chest mockingly, right? Yeah. And then the cop is like, what did you do killed them all and everyone starts filming and it's like okay so you guys are gonna hate me and before the audience hates me please follow me on twitter at jamie hilstein send him your hate there subscribe to my podcast instagram at the jamie hilstein isn't that more evidence for one more police training and two if you're gonna own a gun so for me i i want to own a gun now and i've been anti-gun but if you're going to own a gun. So for me, I want to own a gun now, and I've been anti-gun. But I don't want to own a gun until I know, just like with jiu-jitsu, just like that I can proficiently enforcement actually maybe needs more training so that even though Tamir Rice,

even though maybe the toy gun looked more realistic, that you're confident enough to assess the situation before you just open firearm, who turns out to be a kid. Everybody wants to go after law enforcement with these shootings. And how about train the crook not to point the gun at the law enforcement? Of course. Look at the knucklehead the other day pulled up next to the traffic stop, right? Did he have an ax or something?

And he went after the officer. No, the officer was trying to back up, do the best he could to keep that separation because it's 21 feet, fellas. Well, that's the number. But I think we can do both. Like this is the argument that happens. I remember even when I was in super wokey-wokey mode, when I would advocate for women to train jujitsu,

people would go, you're victim blaming. It's not their fault. They shouldn't have to do anything. You know, we need to teach men how not to rape. And it's like, well, yes, we do. But also until people stop, training jujitsu will help you. I'll finish with this on this topic.

Yeah, please. I've said it and I'll say it again. And that is, is that if you comply, if you comply, to all the criminals out there, the ones that carry guns, they shouldn't have guns, the felons, all these guys are going to go out. My fans tune in. If you comply, you will not die. That's it. It's very simple.

If you comply, you will not die. And when you look at Michael Brown and all these others, I mean, Michael Brown's fingerprint was on the officer's weapon. So if you're out there fighting and holding court on the side of the road, this and that, there's a high probability something could go wrong and it could cost you your life. So just comply. If you comply, criminals, you will not die. Yeah, a lot of these circumstances, you see people, not just shootings, they just start

arguing with the cops and they don't understand that whether you want it to be reality or not, it is. If a cop is stopping you, you will gain nothing by fighting with him and talking with him. That's the funniest thing. It's like you're being arrested. I love it when I hear these activists at Occupy,

they're like, I have not been read my rights. And? But they watch movies and they think a cop has to Mirandize you because they watched you throw a brick at somebody? These people don't know what they're talking about. You keep your mouth shut. Unfortunately, there are instances where police have wrongly arrested people. During Occupy Wall Street, I actually filmed the cops wrongly arrest somebody. They lied in the police report.

Got a different officer to sign off on it. And I filmed it. I want those officers charged criminally, but that doesn't happen. That to me is the problem. The issue isn't, the issue is when an officer is breaking the law, violating their oath to the constitution. But if, this is what really frustrates me too. There's a video where there's like a black dude walking down the street and the cops are like,

hey, come and talk to us for a minute. Stop. And he goes, no. And they're like, you are being detained. Stop. He goes, no. And they fight with them. And they're like, you are being detained. Stop. And he goes, no. And they fight with them. And they're like, I can't believe the cops did that.

And it's like, dude, cops have a right to stop you to ask you questions. They can detain you for a small amount of time. It's the way the system goes. You might not like it. I get it. But fighting with cops when they're like, what are you doing in this area is not going to win anything for you. You're not going to win on in this area is not going to win anything for you. You're not going to win on activism.

You're not going to win on the law. All you're going to do is make everything worse. Everyone agrees. Yeah. Well, it seems commonsensical though, right? And people will – so I've been thinking about this, and this is something I've – I don't think i've really discussed on this podcast or oh no actually we did kind of talk about this the other day but it makes sense in a very polarized environment where people have very different opinions that we're going to end up disagreeing on things at such a fundamental level that there are certain issues where we won't be able to reach a compromise right and so whether

you're talking about abortion or homosexuality or any of these other issues. When it comes to police shootings, these are not matters of principle. These are case-by-case situations that have to be investigated, right? If you hear a police officer shot someone, it's not I'm for that or I'm against that. It's all right, well, let's look into it and see what happened. But for whatever reason, we are in a place in this country where people will hear that a police officer shot someone and they will immediately know that he is guilty. And not only that he's guilty, but if the person was a minority, that he was guilty and he did it because that person was a minority. That is insane. There are stories that I think should be pointed out,

but people need to be careful not to conflate the outliers and the accidents. So there's that one famous moment where a guy gets pulled over, a black dude gets pulled over in a van. He gets out of the vehicle. He's like, the cop says, get out of the vehicle. He gets out. And the cop says, show me your ID. And he goes, okay. He turns back into the car and the cop just shoots him. He was going for something. It's like, it's a problem. You told him to get the ID. You have

someone mentioned Philando Castile. Are you familiar with this case? Yeah. He was legally able to carry a weapon. The cop panicked and shot him. There's another issue of he shouldn't have been shot, but he was also smoking pot while he was driving. So that kind of muddied things up. But he shouldn't have been shot. That's not a death penalty offense.

The issue is how do we deal with these accidents and outliers? I think the challenge is we need to actually have a sit-down conversation. We need to analyze what causes these and then figure out, is there something we can do to make sure they don't happen while making sure cops are safe when they do their jobs? There's not a cop that I've ever spoken to that agrees with what Derek Chabon did to George Floyd, that they would agree with that, and he should go to prison. But, gentlemen, there are hundreds of thousands of stops made,

up to millions, each and every month, each and every month on traffic stops, and you're going to find law enforcement officers that make judgment calls, and they could be the wrong call. You're going to get some that are going to get scared. You talk about Uvalde. Now, why did those guys not go into that building? I don't know. But the point is, is it's a very, very difficult job.

And everybody should go through what that media person went through. You know, we have police academy training, citizens police academy. It's a FATS training. And they go through and they realize it's just not as easy as it just seems. Like you just, so the point is, is that there's very, very few officers involved in shootings today. I mean, come on. When you look at the number of contacts with citizens today, very few result in police officers firing their weapons,

and when they do, they're scrutinized before the damn bullet even hits the, you know, it's just crazy. I think it's 375 million interactions per year, something like that. And out of that, there were, I think, what was it, nine unarmed black men killed in 2019 and even that is a little deceptive right because first of all it's possible to shoot someone who's armed and for that to be unjustified but also it's possible to shoot an unarmed person and for that to be justice justified so when you look into these unarmed cases one of them from a couple years ago i was looking at was he was strangling an old lady and then went to attack the cop it's just insane so even if you hear words, unarmed black man shot by a police officer, you don't know anything about the story until you know something about the story.

You see that viral video where the guy's coming at the cop with a knife and he's backing away for like 30 seconds going, no, no. But then the guy grabs his partner. He goes, no, no. And then he starts shooting the guy and the guy gets shot and he gets back up. He gets back up. That's he gets shot he's coming at the cop then after being shot he grabs his partner and then the cop gets it shoots him

in the head it's it's like people you know you know i think one of the issues is it's the algorithmic psychosis i call it let's say you're 10 years old and the year is 2012 and you open up facebook and the only thing you're seeing is police brutality videos. Remember that song where it's like, this is what you get when you call the cops, and it's like the guy rapping, it's a really good song.

But it's like, Facebook recycles those videos because it gets clicks and people make money, so then other people recycle them. Reddit was doing the same thing. 10 years goes by where you're 10 years old watching these doing the same thing 10 years goes by where you're you're 10 years old watching these videos and for 10 years it's all you see you believe that

is the world oh bro that's what i was telling you before that's why literally at 40 years old it's like the first time i'm talking to conservatives or law enforcement or and and by the way the all the law enforcement friends i have said the exact same thing that you said about um the george floyd murder where they were the most horrified and i think if we got rid of this us versus them mentality and then we could let let the good cops speak up and be like that shouldn't have happened and then they go continue to be good cops speak up and be like, that shouldn't have happened, and then they go continue to be good cops. I think there are issues, but I think with 375 million interactions, we're talking about

a microscopic fraction of error. And so there's something else that I refer to as the scaling problem, and I'll put it this way. Most of you watch, if you watch consistently, you may have heard me say it. Let's say iPhone gives out 100 phones to these celebrities, and 1% of those phones break.

Nobody cares. One celebrity comes out and he's like, hey, my phone broke. And they're like, oh, that sucks. Let's say they give out 100 million phones and 1% break. Now online, trending, 1 million tweets, broken phone. I'm like, whoa, all these phones are broken. The same failure rate.

So if you have 375 million police interactions, the acceptable margin of error decreases as time goes on. If you had 100 cops in the United States and 1% brutalized someone, that's one cop. People would be like, it was just one cop. Who cares? I'm waiting for – You get 100 million cops and now you've got a million police brutality stories. People are going to lose their mind, which means you've got to reduce the margin of error as you scale up the size. That's impossible to do infinitely.

And Tim, it seems like the answer to this, this problem we have with police brutality is that we're going to defund them. Matter of fact, not defund them. We're just going to completely abolish them. But I think a majority, a solid majority of the American people support the men and women in blue. It's that small group that's out there just raising cane and just causing problems. Well, I was going to say, I can speak as someone who, you know,

during the emotion of everything that happened with George Floyd, I was listening to a lot of the defund the police people until I moved to Texas and I started talking to more police. And police were saying, hey, dude, we don't like what happened either. We actually, if you defund us, that's less training. Right. And we actually need more training and we need more resources. And what you're going to do if you deplete us, now we're working more. I have a buddy on SWAT. We're working more hours. We're understaffed. It's like, you think that's going to help judgment? Jamie, would you do your buddy's job for $70,000 a year?

Would I what? Would you do his job, the law enforcement, the man on the SWAT team? At this point, if I could train and if I could do it, yeah, but that's because I'm becoming a psychopath. I was like, I would do it in a heartbeat. But a lot of people on the left would not, if that's what you were going with. I just think people are leaving the industry. People are leaving the profession because just the criticism criticism and all the the anti-police rhetoric out there and then you're gonna lose i tell you it's dangerous well you look at some

of the cities now look at the homicide rates the crimes going up through the roof why would you keep down with that uh defund the police and all that and there's nothing you won't have police protection well i tweeted this about uvalde i said this is what happens when you defund the police and then everyone was like they were well funded you're wrong and it's just like you need to you won't have police protection. Well, I tweeted this about Uvalde. I said, this is what happens when you defund the police. And then everyone was like, they were well-funded, you're wrong. And it's just like, you need to understand the subtlety here.

When the police are demoralized, demonized and attacked relentlessly, they're going to be like, I'm out, no, don't care. I do want to add though, I'm a little salty on cops considering what happened with COVID because too many cops,

for one, I'll say a few things. Cops enforcing unconstitutional gun laws, I think is a problem. And during COVID, cops enforcing unconstitutional edict was a huge problem. And the one thing that was a big wake-up call for conservatives and why a lot of Trump supporters and conservatives soured on support for cops was because we saw cafe owners, salon owners, while the Democrats- A ton of gym owners, yep. Yeah, gym owners, Attila's gym. When you had the Democrats releasing prisoners and inmates who commit violent crimes and

then taking business owners and putting them back in, people got really pissed off about that. But I tell you, where did you see that, though? You saw that in these large municipalities where there are police departments that work for a chief of police who works for the mayor and the city council. So you didn't see that with sheriffs. You saw the sheriffs.

They're elected. The only people – There was – There could be some far-left sheriffs out there that would be doing that too, but a majority of the sheriffs says, I'm not enforcing that. I wasn't going to enforce mask mandates because I only answer to the people that elect me. Chiefs of police have to answer to mayors, and the mayor is going to tell the chief, you get your people to do it. If you want to keep your job, you're going to do exactly what the heck I tell you to do.

That makes it a little bit more difficult as it relates to municipal police departments and sheriff's offices and who their boss is. But that's a thing, a big distinction. There was one instance where a sheriff in Minnesota went and arrested a cafe owner for opening a cafe. But again, I'm not going to point to one case and be like, oh, the cops. But a lot of people were just like, if this is what the cities are doing. So my attitude is kind of like, if New York wants to abolish the cops, let them do it. I don't live there. Let the people see it and you see how it's going.

But I do kind of think maybe an easy solution is cops should be elected. Like you shouldn't have a chief of police who's appointed by a political individual who then has his job held over him. We should vote for who the police chief is. Well, they don't survive very long. Chiefs of police, their tenure as chief is because the new mayor comes in, he wants to bring in his own buddy. Well, there's always a cop that they have to deal with who doesn't play by the rules and he's going to retire soon and then they get into it. I was hoping someone picked up on that. I was really proud of it.

And as I was saying it, I was like, oh, it's dying. But no, you said something earlier about how to say, well, we need the police to be well funded, which is what Joe Biden said during his State of the Union. No, don't defund them. Defend them. Like, oh, interesting. Yes. Yeah. So this is becoming a safe position in the polls.

I'm sure it always has been. But it's something Democrats are even willing to say at this point. Well, when people are watching violent crime skyrocket, some dude pushed a woman on the train tracks in New York. People don't want to live there, man. It's not just in New York City. It's all the cities. Crime is through the roof. And they're moving to Texas. We gained two congressional

seats. New York lost one. California lost one. We're hoping they're not bringing that ideology into Texas. I think we should interview them before we actually allow them but they're moving into texas and you look at you know we have constitutional carry i mean we we have just texas is one of the greatest states i'm proud to be from it i um i i moved from la to austin and everybody i met was like how are you gonna vote how are you gonna vote you're gonna you're gonna change if you're gonna come how are you gonna vote uh but then the worst thing i saw was there's you know there's a bumper sticker that says uh

don't california my texas and the first time i saw it it was a dude with a florida license plate and i'm like come on man you're in the most liberal city in the whole state oh i know travis county i mean it's horrible austin is very very very different it's all just wellness podcasters it's terrible yes sir it is. So here's the issue with Texas. Everybody was telling me, like, you guys should move there. You guys should move there. And I was just like, no way.

Because Elon Musk, he's cool, right? But when he moves and builds a factory in Austin and relocates his California employees, those people are progressive. They're liberals. So it's not just about Joe Rogan and Elon Musk. It's about everyone they bring with them. And then when, you know, Jamie, you end up moving there. Hello. You got Michael Malice. You get these prominent individuals, comedians and podcasters.

Then the periphery of those groups are going to come as well. And then California moved to Texas. Right. People were like, no, it's good that these people are moving because they're helping Texas and they're making it red. And I'm like, maybe. But what's going to happen is a California conservative is a far left Texan. And they come in and they'll vote Republican because they don't like California leftism, which is coming to Texas.

And they'll make Texas moderate, not Republican. Eventually. I mean, but look at 2020. Trump were on Texas by 600,000. You saw the congressional race we hear. I think it was Texas 34. First time ever in the history have we seen a female Mexican born in Mexico become a member of Congress. So I think many of the, just the policies, the policies of the left with the border and everything else, people are, I feel pretty, I think we're going to do very, very well

in the state of Texas here in November. It's going to be a bloodbath. I am sick of Republicans playing identity politics. I'm just kidding. So what happens in 2022? You think by November, it's going to be just, like you think the polls are wrong and it's going to be a crazy blowout

we've never seen before, a Republican supermajority or something? Yeah, I think you'll see probably gaining 30, 35 seats. We're at about 212, 213. We'll probably gain 30 to 35 seats. And that's a big number. I think it actually could end up being better than Republicans realize. It could.

Because if the polls have been consistently skewed in favor of Democrats, and right now in the generic ballot, Republicans are up about three points. They're probably up 10. Then you look at, interestingly, five, I'm sorry, RealColorPolitics has the toss-up seats. And I think 28 of 32 toss-ups are Democrat held. So it's just like, it might be way bigger than people realize.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was less than we realize as well. I don't know. There's still a few months to go here. Let's just wait and see what happens. Let's talk beyond that, though. What do you think? Do you think Joe Biden's going to run again? Well, I hope he does. I really do, and I'd send him $25.

If anybody knows his mailing address, I'll send them $25. She's worse than he, but I think the Democrats are in trouble because I don't think they really have a candidate right now. They got nobody. That's why they're so desperate to try and bring Trump back to life. Yeah. And I think right now our country, when you look at when Trump was president for the four years, I mean, we didn't have all these crises. I mean, just name one or two. I mean, COVID was difficult, but I thought he handled

that quite well with the vaccine in record time. But I think we need him back or two. I mean, COVID was difficult, but I thought he handled that quite well with the vaccine in record time. But I think we need him back in 2024. I think this guy, Donald Trump, in my humble opinion, loves this country more than just about anything. But what about DeSantis? Do you think Trump would be better? I think DeSantis should keep his powder dry until 2028. I mean, he's a relatively young man. He's mid-40s or so, and he's a member of Congress.

I think he's been governor now for, what, four years? And I just think in 2028 he'd be great. And there's competition going back and forth with our governor in Texas as well. Who's going to get that base? Who's going to move a further right? But I just think everybody should just bow out and just let Donald Trump come back. He will be the Republican nominee, and he will beat anybody. I want to hear two words from Donald Trump the moment he gets inaugurated.

You're fired. You're fired. Beautiful. Two words. I want him to just fire all of these bureaucratic, administrative state trash people in D.C. We have a lot of talent. I mean, when you think of Ron DeSantis and the great things he's doing in Florida, people love him. So I think we have a lot of good talent out there, and we have people in the wings in the future.

The Democrats are just struggling. Who, Cory Booker? I mean, who do you got? The Democrats are just struggling. They don't have anything. Bernie? Crazy Bernie? Give me a break.

I do like Bernie better than Newsom, to be fair. No, Bernie, if there was any Democrat, I'd rather have Bernie, but I think Bernie's a sellout. So I think they're all bad. Yeah. What is it specifically about Trump that energized you so much? Is it that he was an outsider or is it, was it him before he ran for president or the way he governed for four years? The way he ran, the way he ran, he had 14 people on that stage and he just picked them off one at a time. He's just real. He's. I thought he brought a lot of humor.

He was kind of funny. I mean, yeah, nicknames and people don't like the way he calls names. But overall, and I tell you, when he come up with build that wall, build that wall, that really energized his campaign. And so I just think that you can't buy him. You can't buy Donald Trump. He has all the money. There's no special interest going to get him.

And just the way he ran the country, he deserves a third term. Are you familiar with the Tales from an Economic Hitman, that book? Oh, yeah. So you've heard of this? Yeah. If Luke were here, he'd be able to educate us properly.

But the general idea is this guy said that, you know, he worked for the intelligence agencies in the U.S., and what they would do is they would go and try and bribe a country and say, like, here's what the United States wants. We'll give you all this stuff. If you do it, the IMF will come in with loans. And then if the president or the government said no, then they would try and take out either politically or through assassinations. And if that didn't work, invasion.

That's what he claimed. I think about those stories and I'm like, whether or not they're true or not, you look at Donald Trump. He gets elected. They didn't think he would. I think about those stories and I'm like, whether or not they're true or not, you look at Donald Trump. He gets elected. They didn't think he would. He has these meetings. They probably were like, you know, Trump, play ball with us. Here's what we're going to do.

And he went, no, we're doing it my way. I don't want to do it. And then they try to remove him via a legal process, Russiagate. That doesn't work. So what do they do now? Executive action. Now they're going with the january 6th the law enforcement stuff the accusations the doj the fbi raids so they've

escalated the point where they're like we are going to use the force of violence against this man to stop him from running i had to reread that book now yeah it's crazy you're talking about like panama and stuff and it wasn't like a small conspiracy book it was a new york times bestseller it was you know right right right listen i got a lot of people they don't like his tweets they don't like what he said they don't like maybe some of the stuff he said about john mccain and when he was a prisoner of war and all that and i tried and i just there's some other things but i've always said i said you guys you're not electing your neighbor and we're not electing the pope right we're electing the

president united states and when you look at're electing the president of the United States. And when you look at his policies and the results of those policies, Ukraine would be the prime example. Obama went into, what, 2014, went into Crimea, right? Nobody went into Ukraine under Donald Trump, did he? Putin didn't go into Ukraine under Donald Trump. And so you have our adversaries that are taking and exploiting our weakness. And we have weakness in our president today.

Donald Trump ran this. I mean, just look at how he kept Russia in check and how he kept China in check. I mean, I just... Look at that. Look at no invasion from Russia while Trump was president, despite Crimea. Then all of a sudden, Trump gets in and Putin backs off. I understand. So I just think, listen, I'm a Trump guy. I hope he comes back.

He doesn't drink, doesn't smoke. I think he's very healthy right now. I've had opportunities to visit with him a couple times, and I think this country needs him more today than ever. Man, you know what would help? You should tell him to come on the podcast. Well, I think we're actually setting that up. There you go.

No, for real. There we go. Yeah, we'll have to go. He'd like you guys. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, we're fans. We're good. The thing about it is he wouldn're actually setting that up. There you go. No, for real. Here we go. Yeah, we're up to go. He'd like you guys. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, we're fans. Yeah, we're good. The thing about it is he wouldn't have to dress up.

Well, I don't know if Jamie's a fan. I'm not wearing shoes. I used to, but it wasn't appreciated. Seamus, I'm just kidding, buddy. By the way, if he agrees to be in the vlog, I'm a fan. He gets my vote. Oh, that would be great. Get Trump to do like a simple bit.

I mean, he was in Home Alone, you know. Yeah, that'd be cool if he was in New York. So I don't, a lot of people who are Trump zealots, you know, they're just like, Trump's the best. He can do nothing wrong. I'm like, Trump's pretty good. He's all right. I didn't vote for him in 2016. In 2022, I did.

I said, you can't deny the successes he's had. Getting rid of the Trans-Pacific Partnership was the right move. Every activist in the world, okay, every activist in the United States were complaining about TPP. Then Trump comes in and all of a sudden they were like, actually, it's a good thing. And I'm like, what? Like during Occupy Wall Street, like all throughout, everyone's like warning about this Trans-Pacific Partnership. Trump gets in and gets rid of it. Donald Trump, no new wars. Starts bringing our troops back from the Middle East. These are good things. I was talking to someone and they told me, oh, it was all nonsense.

He's trying to be buddy-buddy with dictators and blah, blah, blah. And I was like, what does that mean? And they're like him and Kim Jong-un. And then I said, Donald Trump crossed the DMZ into North Korea with no security detail. And they're like, yeah. And I'm like, that is one of the most profound acts of leadership someone could take to try and end a war they could have captured the president of the united states and they could have done whatever they wanted and trump walked in with kim jong-un and walked back and i was just i was shocked like if dennis rodman can do it i'm gonna do it but i mean in all

seriousness i mean you're the president united States walking into what should be perceived as hospital territory. I'm like this is amazing. That's amazing. I got to vote for this guy. And then what happened was his second term agenda came out and I was like school choice. Get rid of these critical race theory garbage stuff. And I'm just like this dude has done well. He deserves it.

I learn about this all the time. I scream about it on my podcast and Twitter and all that stuff. People need principles, not teams. If you were mad when George Bush had drone strikes that killed civilians, you should be mad when Obama did it. If you were mad – When Trump did it. Yeah. If you thought Trump was creepy with women, you should think that Bill Clinton was creepy with women.

Joe Biden. Yeah. It's with children. Yeah. I mean, there are so many instances where and that doesn't mean suddenly you have to disavow them. That doesn't mean you have to go from Democrat to Republican or Republican to Democrat. It just means have the political courage to stand in your conviction and call out your side when your side is wrong in order to make your side better and hold it accountable and then we can actually have a more honest political discourse one million percent and i i really just want to hit on this point i i made sort of a little joke alluding to it but the president of the united states sniffs children and we're used to it like we don't think of it as being that out of the ordinary. It's just

almost become a hackneyed punchline. But the president sniffs children. He gropes them too. It's disgusting. Wasn't there a video where he pinched a little girl's nipple or something? What? It appears that most people too, they look at a grandfather figure and they almost

kind of feel for him like this is Grandpa Joe. Remember when he kissed his granddad on the lips? It's so weird. Yeah. Remember that? I just think about our country. Our country is begging for leadership. Yeah.

And I think we had that with Trump. We don't have that with this current administration. He's let around by his nose. And we're paying the price. We're paying the price for it. I think in a lot of ways DeSantis is better, but I don't know if DeSantis would come in and do the you're fired thing. That's the big issue, right? Yeah.

So with Ron DeSantis, he's proven his leadership in Florida. He's done a really great job, and I think he'd be a fantastic president. I'm not so sure on foreign policy that's yet to be seen. But I'd imagine if he did get in, if he were to win in 2024, if he ran and won, he would not go, you're fired. And he would not get rid of all these really awful people. I think Trump, he knows. He's learned his lesson. And he was like, I trusted some bad people.

If he gets in in 2024, it is going to be beautiful as the pink slips start getting handed out. And then you see people walking out of the buildings in D.C. and going into the unemployment line. I think Trump's going to do it. I don't think DeSantis would do it. Who would have ever thought our country could be destroyed in 17 months? 17, 18 months, he's destroyed this country. So it's going to take a full four years of Donald Trump to come back and try to fix these issues.

And oil and gas is so important in Texas, and now you have $5 fuel, inflation 8.5%. I love – sorry. I was going to say I just love the meme where the left says, Joe Biden doesn't control gas prices, idiot. But Joe Biden is going to enact policies to lower gas prices. It's like, what? So did he enact policies to make them higher? No.

But he can make them lower. Okay, dude, whatever. Well, and so I try to keep a sort of a larger perspective. And so, you know, under the Obama administration, I remember thinking, like, I really, really don't like Obama. But, you know, we had FDR. We had Woodrow Wilson. Maybe Obama isn't the worst president we've had. Joe Biden may actually be the worst president in all of American history. I mean, at least the really, really bad ones likeson and fdr knew what day of the week it was jimmy carter will appreciate that yeah yeah jimmy carter i mean even carter i would say i would say uh biden's worse than carter granted i don't know as much about jimmy carter but he's really bad i

mean there's something usually when we rank a president, we're just sort of looking at them as a set of policies. That's what we seem to do nowadays, which is kind of bizarre because this is a person who's supposed to be a leader and character does mean something when you're a leader. But with Joe Biden, it's not just that all of his policies have been horrible for the country. It's that

he is experiencing serious cognitive decline. Like the man's brain doesn't work. Let's do it. We got this story from the New York Post. Oh, you were so excited about this. You take your seat. Very specific cheat sheet reminds Biden how to act.

Look at this. Why did he hold it up? I think in order to know you're the president. Joe Biden was speaking. He was holding up a card and it says, you enter the Roosevelt room and say hello to participants. You take your seat like you is in big bold letters and yours in big bold letters like dude there's something wrong with this guy's brain maybe you tell ukraine that the funds will be withheld

maybe someone played a joke on him at number five was you hold card up to camera and he's like okay all right here i go come on man you know you think about joe and and and his cognitive you know and i tell you what there's one person i'm really really frustrated with and i think that it's jill biden listen she's been married to this guy for years she knows him better than anybody you like throwing the towel well i'm just saying that you know what i don't know if it she wanted to be the first lady so bad and have that power, or she wanted to make sure that her husband reached that pinnacle. But I'm really frustrated with her because she knows her husband better than anybody,

and she knew he was going to be like this, but she didn't care. And now the American people are paying for this thing. Because of what? Because she wanted to see her husband accomplish something, or maybe this was more about her becoming the first lady. But she's shameful. Shameful. I mean, the Democrats hated Trump so much.

I remember everybody I used to hang out with, we weren't fans of Biden. Biden was part of the corporate left. And suddenly these same people were doing everything in their power to elect a guy who they knew. We knew. I didn't vote for him, but we knew would not be good. I didn't know it would be this bad. Yeah, well, Clinton, same deal. It's like we were hating the Clintons forever.

And now you're acting like you're a sexist if you're not going to vote for her. Occupy Wall Street was anti-Obama. The people down there were like, Obama's trash. Yep. And then it's like 2016 comes around and they're like we've forgotten all about that we like him now hope and change baby yep yep yep yeah no that's a very good point about joe biden though i mean she should know right this man has literally lost his mind he's lost i it's just why did they pick it's insane

dr jill i'm sorry um they used to joke about Reagan. And they would say, you know, towards the end of Reagan's presidency, he experienced some cognitive decline. And that was sort of a little jab they'd make at Republicans. Look, a person you elected back when they were mentally healthy ended up experiencing cognitive decline. How irresponsible is your party that he wasn't immediately removed from power? During the primaries, Joe Biden was clearly demented or suffering with Alzheimer's. His brain was not functioning at any point. And I say this. Look, if I was discussing any other senior citizen experiencing cognitive decline, I would probably take a more somber approach to this.

But this is the president. And they knew this. They put the man in this position knowing his brain does not work. Stop being ageist and ableist, Seamus. I know you're right. No, we're trying to defend them. Oh, that's true. Yeah, whenever they show Obama and they're like, this is how he looked in the beginning of his presidency, and then they show him with gray hair, it's like, yo, Joe Biden started looking rough.

Where does that go? Seamus, you're right. I mean, this is the leader of the free world that we have as our President of the United States. And the media covers for him. I mean, we have gas at five bucks. I mean, I've said it how many times, and he's taking walks on the beach, but he's got to have his handlers. If it's not the bunny rabbit

during Easter, it's the grandchildren and the others saying, come on, honey, we got to go. We got to pull you over here. Real quick, I just want to give a shout out to The Onion for this article. Stress of presidency already ages biden 10 years oh my you gotta give him credit where credit is there i guess so there you know he should really be ashamed of this inflation and gas being five bucks a gallon i think it was like two cents a gallon

when he was a kid right they were still dinosaurs when he was a kid, right? They were still dinosaurs when he was a kid, to be fair. They were still walking around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Had been crushing to crude oil. But no, it's shameful. Dinosaurs aren't oil, Seamus. I know. It's the plant life.

But people say dinosaurs are the funny little punchline. We don't support the fake news on this show. I know. You're right. Thank you. Thank you, Ministry of Truth. You're going to sing me a musical about it? Fight dinosaurs.

It's a joke. Yeah, exactly. My joke was that I didn't mean to spread misinformation about oil. I'm saying that Joe Biden is old, all right? He's old, everybody. Ba-doom-boom-tsch-zing. Tim is getting on me for being factually inaccurate when I'm morally correct. Well, I was reading Snopes earlier, and I was just was just thinking like i shouldn't let seamus get

away with these jokes this misinformation this misinformation yeah no it's it's troubling and i think you know there's something to be said for the fact that no joe biden is not the sole culprit here but he was part of the establishment that led to all of these problems it's not like he's just some fall guy who had nothing to do with this that that card he's holding up we are literally in weekend at biden's i know yeah yeah it's exactly that's what That card he's holding up, we are literally in Weekend at Biden's. I know. Yeah. It's true. That's what it is.

They're holding up his... Someone was just like... Wouldn't it be funny if someone was always standing next to him, just like unreasonably close? You're like, what's going on? You can't see their arm. You can't see their arm. What was his one word that described America?

Do you remember this? He's like, there's one word that describes it. It's the Buddha. Buddha. Guys, maybe that's why he's getting so close to the kids, is the kids are whispering him his lines he forgot. Oh, I see what it is. So there you go.

I figured it out. You're welcome, Joe Biden. I like that. Let's see the press secretary tell us that. Oh, here we go. It's- There's nothing that they can- A super-

Hold on, hold on. Guys, this we go. It's nothing that they can. A superman. Here we go. Here we go. Hold on, guys. This is important. This is very important. Oh, wait. I got to fix the audio.

Oh, sorry. I always have the audio set to the wrong thing. Because you guys need to know. You guys need to hear this. Here we go. You ready? That nation that can be defined in a single word.

I was going to foot him. What is? And then he ends up saying and then he ends up saying at the foothills of the Himalayas. It can be defined in a single word. I was in the foot... What? Oh, this poor old guy, man. Here's the thing. I would feel bad for him.

First of all, if he wasn't a horrible person doing horrible things, who should have stepped down? And also, if we were being gaslit about this, he has a speech impediment, excuse me? That's what a lisp does? No, wrong, incorrect. His brain is not functioning. Also, he's a plagiarist.

Some British politician probably had this gaffe first. That'd be funny if it happened. Why are they even talking about a second term, though? I don't think he's denied it. He's claiming he's going to run. Yeah. So think about that now. The current condition he's in in another three years.

That is insane. Yes. Are they just hoping that this country is so tribalized that people will vote for him? Well, that's what happened the first time. The first time people hated Trump. Maybe they're hoping they can do a repeat, but I really doubt it. I think the five bucks per gallon thing

really irked some people. Like the joke I was making earlier, I really doubt you're going to go to a gas station and someone's going to be like screaming, and it turns out they're screaming over January 6th. January 6th, yeah. No, it's a suit of... No, there was actually breaking news.

Biden plagiarized his gaffe from a British politician. The one thing we can say about England is – True and a nana. True and a nana, shabba da pressure. True and a nana, shabba da pressure. True and a nana, shabba da pressure. Do you remember that? Remember that one, Troy?

No, I can't say I have, i i do know this is that they actually feel that uh that he has a chance when he comes back i really believe that uh that if he would seek another term and if you look at what happened with the election in 2020 and the way that thing was handled and managed and you get start giving everybody ballots and you could see i mean i i wasn't i'll lead an effective strategy to mobilize true international pressure. Oh, boy. I'll lead an effective strategy to mobilize true international pressure. Now, the best part is they're clapping.

Like when he says it. Yes, we need true international pressure. He said Batacaf care. He's loud there. He's trying to demonstrate strength. Yeah. Very vocal and like he's a hard charger. They probably think it's Nelressent.

I think Putin saw that. He's like, I, that's a new one. It doesn't end in an X, though. Jake Paul said he created a new incomprehensible language. He did. Old man is just up there muttering to himself, and people are clapping for it. That's why I'm like, I don't know. I'm kind of pessimistic on this one. He's an innovator of language, baby. The American people are going to vote for that.

That's scary. Well, the polls have showed, what is he, 32%, 33%? So the real question is, I've got to talk to those people. I know. I know. I don't know who these 32% are. Who are they? Where are they?

And what are they thinking? I cannot imagine 30% of the country going, you know, this guy's doing a great job. They don't drive cars. They're the ones who are all working at the mainstream media. We should do a bit where, you know, Jamie's just like, I actually think Trinidad and Chabot pressure is a good thing. What is that? I'd be like, it's a good thing. It's a great thing.

It's a great thing, and it's diversive. And Batacaf Care. We love Batacaf Care. I've always supported Batacaf Care. You know, I mean, when Noam Chomsky talked about it, I supported it then. I'll support it now. But I wonder if just like, how do they answer this? Do they act like it doesn't exist?

Yeah. Well, no, they, they say he has a speech impediment. He has a lisp. That's what they constantly claim. When people make fun of him for the way he talks, they go, when, yes. Yeah. Also scary. Again, commander in chief of the military probably shouldn't be mislabeling countries

like that. Little bit frightening. Little bit concerning. We got, we got a bomb. He's going to be like, we got a bomb! He's going to be talking to the Joint Chiefs. We got a bomb, Libya! And they're like, are you sure? Yeah! And then they're like, okay. And then later they're like,

why is the U.S. engaged in a military conflict in Libya? And Biden's going to be like, oh no, I meant Syria. The media corrects for him. They translate for him. They're like, we dropped the bomb on Libya. He's like, go pick it up, man. Drop it on Siri instead. Biden, why'd you sniff that kid? I have a lisp.

Yeah, come on, man. He has a lisp, you heartless person. Yeah, they will like scold you. It's hilarious. People have been scolded for criticizing him. I can't remember who this was. It was on one of these news networks, MSNBS or CNN or whatever, and they're going, how do you think children with lisps are

going to feel when they see the way you're making fun of the president or the the potential president for the way he speaks like what that's not no a lisp does not make you say poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids that's not how a lisp works well well uh now according to the dsm6 let's go to super chats if you haven already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, and share the show with your friends. As a member, you'll get access to,

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new report on Uvalde. I swear the more I hear about what those officers did, or more specifically didn't do, the more I'm convinced they should be charged not as accessories, but as accomplices.

I was saying this before. I was saying either on accident or on purpose, they helped this guy. It's great because they were stopping people. Daryl Lyon says, first and obligatory civil war. All right.

That is not the first. Micro Sapple says, you never told us about the anti-Ben Shapiro doorknob. Oh, yeah. So when we got, we had to evacuate because we had a credible threat. And so we turned on the wide shot and people noticed the doorknob is at the top of the door. And it's actually for a really simple reason, so that it's not in the camera frame on the show.

But people were calling it the anti-Ben Shapiro doorknob because it's very tall. That's not right. That's not right. But these are people who are like fans of Ben Shapiro. Okay. Smart guy. Smart guy. But I will say this.

I'll tell you this. When you see all these memes where they're saying like Ben is 5'4", 5'5", I actually believed it. And then I met him and he's like just a little bit shorter than I am. And I'm 5'10". And so he's like 5'8 or something. Well, Jamie, you look up to him. He's taller than me. Yeah. I was furious And I'm 5'10". And so he's like 5'8 or something. Well, Jamie, you look up to him. He's taller than me. I was furious when I found out that.

I can still beat him up, but I'm still not happy. He doesn't have ears like you. He doesn't have ears like me. No, sir, he doesn't. Thank you, sir. I was talking with Jamie, and then you said something about him being short. I'm like, actually, he's like average size. He's like 5'8 and a half or something. And you were like, he's taller than me? I was like, I guess I am below average size.

Cool. Dude, I gotta say gotta say your fans i've been interacting i've been interacting more on twitter than i usually do or my mental health says i should your fans are even when they're like poking fun at me legitimately the funniest fans i've ever met they are hysterical good engagement good engagement all right let's see what do we? I'm not your buddy, guy, says, you've mentioned the shadow campaign numerous times. When analyzing, did you ask yourself, if signature verification is removed, what would this cause? Also, why trust Barr when he's the same man who said Epstein offed himself

and oversaw DOJ when Epstein abused children? Hold on. What does all of that mean, buddy? It's a bit esoteric. This is one of the biggest challenges with all of these big stories, especially with Epstein, is the average person doesn't know about it. So I would say the shadow campaign was a Time magazine article where they claimed that a bunch of powerful interests got together to defeat Donald Trump in 2020. If they remove signature verification, it would mean that there would be a higher uh rate of acceptance among mail-in votes and why trust bar i don't not a big fan but what more what more can i say i think we want to focus

on encouraging people to vote especially now in the midterms demoralization and telling people of you know that there's there's widespread front stuff it's just going to make it it's going to convince people not to be involved. Tell people to just go out and vote because no matter what, voting helps your side. It helps your, it's just, you got to do it. You got to do it.

My view of that, just without beating a dead horse, the shadow campaign talked about the legal efforts they took. You might not like what they did. I certainly don't. But it was clever lawfare over a year. It wasn't weird stories about the CIA in Germany and like watermarked ballots or Chinese

ballots or anything like that. I think it was just they pulled out all the stops and said, what legal hurdles do we need to overcome to make sure we get as many ballots in for our guy? And they did it and it worked for them. I genuinely believe people voted for Joe Biden because people did not like Donald Trump. All right. But let's just, you know, read some more superchats. Matthew Thomas says, I'm getting real tired of the Republicans holding the moral high ground. If they don't return in kind when they get power, I'll only vote libertarian from here out. Dems contested every election lost.

Isn't that true? Like every single Republican election over the past like 60 years. They've objected to three. Back to Bush. They objected to three. They certainly did. Which is a threat to our democracy, by the way. Goes without saying.

Well, their democracy is not. That's why they say this. Because when they do, it's not a threat to their democracy. It empowers it. Our constitutional republic. This is a threat to our constitutional republic. Yes. Heather V says, hey, Tim, hired him back. How did the interview with Vice go?

LOL. Enjoying you on cast. Look, if you watch the vlog, while I've said I've been having a good time here on the podcast, would I like to be hired back at some of these left-leaning places that aren't taking my calls? You know, watch the vlog and find out. Did I briefly think that Vice wanted an interview? If you want to watch the first episode of the vlog, I believe it is called Woke Journalist Tries to Cancel Transphobic Skater to Work at Vice.

And did I think it worked? Maybe. Did I curse off the staff and leave the house saying i'm never coming back and was it a setup by vice perhaps again i would go to youtube.com slash cast castle and catch up on the vlog um i'm happy to be here tonight but that's mainly just because i'm uh drinking here's a good one this is crazy gator bait says my facebook was shut down by facebook and was memorialized due to someone reporting my account saying i was dead is that considered a death threat wow wow that's crazy they just

memorialize your page and you're alive can you imagine getting a notification being like sorry you're dead you're like is this i don't think they'd give you one i think they would just shut it down and lock you out and be like, because you're dead. Sorry you died. Wow. You know what the creepiest thing is? They're talking about using your Facebook profile to create an AI chatbot of you. No. Yeah.

So like your grandpa dies and then you can go on Facebook and talk to your grandpa and it'll give you answers. It'll learn from what you tell it and it will speak back based on its memories and photos and comments and all that stuff. And your grandfather will say, I think you should purchase Nabisco products. The great advice I always get from pops. Facebook is good. Can your grandpa vote?

Oh, yeah. That's the real question. And then he says something like, you know, in my time here, I've realized Mark Zuckerberg is a pretty cool guy. You're like, gee, grandpa, I've never heard you say that before. Stop getting mad at him for building homes in Hawaii. It's's not actually a chat bot behind the other side it's mark zuckerberg and he's typing he's like mark zuckerberg rules he is great he is a handsome boy all right gage gosnell says nebraska here would love to see a timcast shooting range might even

be better if you name it after a rhino in the area x uh ben's ass shooting range what is that oh an example i see well i don't know we we want to do a range but uh it's actually pretty difficult you'd imagine yeah yeah it's it's not just about having the land it's about i don't want to be responsible for really dumb people yeah yeah exactly so it's like we'll probably have the some form of a range but it's not going to be like any kind of substantial one or anything like that. West Virginia is awesome, though, because I was talking to the cops, and I was like, how does it work with shooting? And they're like, what do you mean? And I was like, on your property, you want to go shoot?

And they're like, what do you mean? And I was like, well, are there rules? And they were like, just don't hit somebody. They're like, yeah, the only rule is you're required to shoot. They were like, you mean you're not shooting on your property? And I'll be like, no, come with me, sir. I'm like, what's happening? No, but they're basically just like have sufficient backstop.

Make sure you're not – you don't injure anybody because that's going to be on you. You're responsible for whatever happens. But there's nothing stopping you from shooting on your property. I'm a huge – I've been a huge advocate of the staff here going on shooting field trips and also all learning jujitsu and just turning into animals. Yes. There's a public range

up on the mountain. Oh, I've been there. Not too far. Yeah. Yeah. So it's actually really cool because you'll go out there and you'll hear shots

and it's like, actually, it's a really good spot. It's a massive, like 25, 30 foot backstop and there's like a straight path to it so you don't accidentally walk in and you can see people. It's a really good spot. It's a massive 25, 30-foot backstop. There's a straight path to it so you don't accidentally walk in.

You can see people. Then you'll go there and you'll see people. It's really, really cool. You'll hang out. We saw some guy with his son. He had a Mini-14. We were like, oh, cool. He was giving his kid pointers.

They were zeroing the sights and everything. It was fun. The one thing, though, is the cost of ammo got so high that people weren't coming out as much. I think we should do that one day. The four of us should go out and – Oh, absolutely. Can I allow Chucha? Can you teach me? I allow Chucha.

Hands down, you will out-Shoot me. I have – I can't speak. This is the congressman's real attitude. I have, within the couple hours I've known him, seen him challenge someone to pool, almost wrestle me, and now challenge me to a shooting contest. He is ready to go. Until I saw your ears now, Jamie. He backed down with the wrestling. Yeah.

All right. All right. We got Chris Pavoto says, my seven-year-old son has Down syndrome. Why are red states slow to fund special therapies and services with Medicaid for family members needing assistance, while blue states fund more? Texas needs more family support. I did research this because moving to Texas, please help. Well, and I feel horrible about that,

and I think we certainly should help America's families that have children with special needs. So the only thing I could say is please reach out to my office. I don't know where you live. I don't know what district you're in, but you can please reach out to my office and we'll do what we can to address that issue. I don't have an answer for you right now, but I think it's good that we could engage. We should engage. All right. IDG says Shelley Moore Crepito and other senators can be recalled by state legislatures the way the founders intended. If we repeal the 17th Amendment, keep that on billboards and you will shake up the Uniparty. Yeah, so you know the 17th Amendment, right? Yeah, go ahead. It used to be that the state legislature would vote.

They would appoint the senators who would go up to the federal government. And then for a variety of reasons, namely what they said was fear of corruption because legislators would then be like, I'll do a favor for you. I can do what I want. They switched it to the popular vote. I think that was a mistake. I think it's only made things worse. I think that if our senator was based on the state legislatures, people would be more paying attention to their state races,

to their local elections, which is substantially more important for where you live than federal elections. All right, let's read some more. What do we have here? SR Dempsey says, can Republicans get an inventory of all who are inside of Congress on 1-6 and their affiliation? It seems more than just Trump supporters were inside that building. That's true.

At least one guy and a woman were leftists. They claimed they're just there documenting. They didn't get charged or anything like that. But I wonder who else. Yeah, I think you're going to find that there were other groups there. They weren't all Trump supporters there. You're going to find that. I mean, you could sit here and I know you guys know the name Ray Epps and the scaffold commander, but Ray Epps, he still hasn't been arrested. So there's a lot of questions that need to be asked, but you're not getting it from this J6 committee. You're going to get it from us, though. You're going to get it from the five of us that are on this shadow committee, and I talk about it in my book. Right on. All right. Peas

and Butter says, how do we know you will use your red wave win wisely? What is your five to 10 year plan? What is your 2023 agenda? Well, this is what I do know is that there's 435 of us. And every two years we get out there and we stomp in our districts and we're going to tell that people, the conservatives like myself, that we're going to reduce taxes. We need less government. We need to get the less regulation, get the government out of our business. And then many of us get elected and then many of us get up here and we either do nothing or do just the opposite. And I'm not one of those guys. That's why I'm proud to be part of that Freedom Caucus because I stay true to myself. I stay true to my voters. And believe it or not,

what that does for me is I can sleep with a clear conscience and I sleep like a baby as a result. Yeah, we like the Freedom Caucus, guys. We do, yeah. I like when Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey were talking about how they have somebody on rotation to make sure that whenever there's a vote, they call all the Congress people to come and actually vote on it. So a lot of people didn't know this until we had Marjorie Taylor Greene on, that a lot of the votes on bills are like just proxy. It's like there's a handful of Democrats and Republicans and they're just like,

and then no one actually comes in and votes on these bills in Congress. So when she mentioned that she calls for a floor vote to make everyone come down, people were cheering like make them do their jobs. Yeah, they call that the roll call vote. There's been a lot of proxy voting because of COVID. I think when we take over the House, I think Linda McCarthy will do away with the proxy voting. Cool. All right. Where we got? Tasty Waffle says, Tim, can you clarify what the 2A SCOTUS ruling will mean for people, especially in California?

Do we now get constitutional carry nationwide? Haven't sat down to read it yet. No. Brett Kavanaugh said states that require permits for handguns can still do so. This ruling will not affect them. Sorry. Thanks, Kavanaugh. Clarence Thomas said requiring someone to state a reason as to why they should defend them, need to defend themselves, is a violation of the Second Amendment and the 14th. So this should impact California that they have to, they are required.

If they're going to have a concealed carry permit. I believe they basically have to know. If you can check all the boxes off on their criteria, they have to give you the permit. So that's fascinating. And your right extends outside the home, so this is big as well. So you can walk around with that concealed carry so long as you get your permit. Or you can move to Texas or West Virginia and you don't need one. Hey, Congressman, can I actually ask you a gun question too when it comes to lefty talking it'll solve everything if there is a longer waiting period, if there are stricter background checks, red flag laws and things like that?

Does that actually help or is it just? Well, I don't know, Jamie. I think that 72 hours is reasonable. I do know that the people that have gone to purchase a firearm that had a background check have been denied for one reason or another. So, no, I think the background checks are effective. I mean, I know firsthand because I've talked to people that have been rejected for one reason or another. Maybe it was a criminal offense, maybe even 20, 25 years ago, and then they have to work through that process. So I believe the background checks are a good thing, and I think the American people support them. Thanks.

All right. Captain Tanker Joe says, I think the diesel shortage is going to be worse than expected i've seen fuel jump 10 to 15 cents overnight i've seen videos of people saying they've been they've been stopped for days waiting for fuel already the shortage is starting already i'm afraid i did see some tweets from people saying that some gas stations have run out of gas it could just be because sometimes gas stations run out of gas. However, we are hearing a lot in the news that there's going to be a diesel shortage, and that's going to result in food prices going through the roof

because farmers need diesel to actually tend to the crops to harvest. So it's going to have a massive ripple effect. A lot of people tell me never to say this, but I just bought more emergency food. Just, you know, full disclosure, I did. Got these buckets. They last 25 years. Because my worst case scenario is, well, the worst case scenario is I guess the apocalypse happened.

You need to eat them. The best case scenario is you got food. You just eat it anyway. They're pretty good. All right. Wandering Mage says, during the House Judiciary meeting on the omnibus, gun control rep Nadler went ballistic at the idea of raising the draft age. He yelled about national security, but it felt like he sees us as his toy soldiers and the draft.

Oh, Jerry. I didn't hear what he had to say. I have no comment because I'd have to get more information on that. But Jerry Nadler is an interesting fellow. He is the chairman of the judiciary. I've tried to work with him to get some legislation to his committee because, folks, if you don't understand, if you want to get anything on the House, if you want to get a vote on the House floor,

you've got to go through the Committee of Jurisdiction. I've tried to do some things in law enforcement-related matters, criminal justice reform, and Jerry Nadler just doesn't want to hear any of it. So I don't have a whole lot of love for him because I think he's out of tune and out of touch. Oh, yeah. I remember when he said Antifa was just an idea or whatever. All right. Rory F. says, Rep Nails, are you reelecting McCarthy as majority leader?

Why or why not? I see a lot of lobbyist money that's also going to the DCCC and major Dem bills. You know, that's a great question. And we were talking about that the other day. And I'm a realist. And I'm telling you right now that Leader McCarthy has raised an enormous amount of money. It's a record amount of money to help get the majority. And there is no other answer.

But Leader McCarthy, I'm telling you right now kevin mccarthy is going to be the speaker of the house um and and that's it so now we just have to do everything we can to try to hold him accountable we must hold him accountable but he doesn't want to impeach if the american people i don't know if he does want to or not but if if the american people and you are going to give us the gavel back we have to take care of it because republicans are sick and tired of this. When we had both chambers of Congress, when we had Paul Ryan, we had both chambers, we had Donald Trump.

What did we do for our southern border? We didn't do a damn thing. Donald Trump had to do it on his own through executive order. So I just think that the Republican Party better be very, very careful that if we don't take care of that gavel and do right for the American people and start putting the American people first, we're going to end up giving it right back, and we're going to lose the confidence of the American people. I think McCarthy said he didn't want to impeach Biden. I think that was his stance.

I'm not a big fan. I'm not confident that if he becomes Speaker of the House, we're going to see a lot of change. I think it'll be once again Republicans slow rolling, Democrats going the speed limit. I'd like to see Thomas Massey as Speaker of the House. That'd be a whole lot of fun. Great. But at the same time, there's the challenge of do you take what you can get or what do you do? I think there's a lot of people hearing that.

It would be McCarthy would probably vote Libertarian instead because there's just the confidence in the Republican leadership is just – the Freedom Caucus is great. But we'll see, man. We'll see. All right. Let's see. Alex Bradley says criminals can 3D print pistols with an internet connection and $300. Why is this even a discussion? Just educate.

Yep. You can 3D print guns. Crazy. Plastic and a nail or whatever. I feel like every time I'm on the show, I learn something that I didn't know that's going to give me nightmares. I haven't seen one. Have you guys seen one? No.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I haven't. I have to be honest. Control Pew. They're 3D printed gun advocates, and they post videos all the time. You look at these videos of 3D printed guns, and you're like, wow. Whoa. No joke.

They're well designed. It's crazy. some of them require more metal parts than others the uh the first i believe was the liberator and it was like a sing it was it was basically a single shot nine millimeter or something but they've advanced the technology of 3d printed printed guns where they've got like people have been telling me like almost entirely uh you know plastic based 3d printed you got like 3d printers have come a long way plus there's also cnc machines so it's really easy to make guns at home not to mention there are those videos the guys have on youtube where they take like two pipes i'm not going to say much beyond that but like literally two pipes and there's a shotgun so you know i don't know i don't know man man we

grew up digging for the anarchist cookbook that was our our big thing. We didn't have 3D printers or guns. The anarchist cookbook. Kids these days. Yoder says, Tim, Ian and you guys need to look up the Battle of Athens, Tennessee, 1946. Oh, yeah, yeah.

We're familiar. Justification that we need to 2A to defend ourselves against tyrannical government. It would really be cool if you guys did a documentary on this. That would be cool. I don't know if it would be a full doc.

It'd be a short doc, mini doc maybe. But the Battle of Athens, you guys did a documentary on this. That would be cool. I don't know if it would be a full doc. It would be a short doc, mini doc maybe. But the Battle of Athens, you guys know about it? No. Veterans came back from World War II, and the town was corrupt and taken over, so they basically reclaimed the town. Really? Whoa. That should be a movie.

I was going to say, you can't make a documentary on it. We would write the movie. Who would play the leading role, Jamie? I mean, obviously the very tall and handsome Jamie Kilstein. Yeah, obviously. would play the leading role i mean obviously the very tall and handsome jamie kilsey dina colette says why does no one ever point out that the two teens who got gunned down in the chas were running for safety from just having been uh just having carjacked the jeep they were driving running whatever for from just having carjacked they stole the jeep and then they got shot and killed i don't know man you know if if

washington and oregon were like we want to secede from the union i'd be like hey don't let me stop you you know like you guys do your thing california man i don't they got a lot of food but yikes what's going on in those states the prophet says obama loves hot dogs it's because it's from chicago people don't understand this in In those emails that got leaked, Obama was like, I'm going to order $30,000 of hot dogs and pizza. I'm in for a party. And then people were like, that must be code for something because it makes no sense.

And I'm like, dude, he's talking about Portillo's and Giordano's or Maxwell Street and Lou Malnati's. But we, it's funny, I always say this. I'm always like, yeah, we just ordered, I think we ordered $1,000 in pizza and hot dogs from Chicago

to come here for a party because you ordered Giordano's online, famous Chicago deep dish, and Portillo's hot dogs. They're amazing. Celery, salt, pickle, pork pepper.

Maybe he's doing it for a mega month with us. Yeah. Well, this was back like they had a party at the White House. I know. And everyone thought

it was a grand conspiracy and I'm like, dude, if a guy from Chicago is having a party for all of his friends and he spends 30 grand to fly out this expensive food he's rich he's flying out famous chicago rich dude who likes chicago hot dogs that's cool oh bro you don't understand chicago has no i know i know some of there was a there was a couple restaurants that were like some of the most notable restaurants in the country for selling hot dogs. It was crazy. They had ostrich and eel hot dogs, and they had foie gras hot dogs.

It's crazy. Chicago's got food. Yeah, man. And then you've got the famous Maxwell Street. You know Maxwell Street. You get the Polish sausage with the mustard and the onions on it. And then you've got Lou Malnati's. You've got Giordano's. You've got Uno's.

Oh, man. Pizza, pizza. Oh, no. I'm hungry now. Yep. Yep. We've got a whole bunch of Giordano's downstairs throwing in. What? It's really good. They don't sell it with the sauce packets, though, anymore. Pizza, pizza. Oh, no. I'm hungry now. Yep. Yep. We've got a whole bunch of Giordano's downstairs throwing in. What?

It's really good. They don't send it with the sauce packets, though, anymore. I know. That's the economy. And it looks like they're putting a layer of crust on top of the cheese. Yeah, yeah. What? It's not as good. They've had to make them cheaper or something.

I think that's what it was. Because of everything that's happening, yeah. Yeah, so we were ordering them for a while, and deep dish pizza, it's like a big layer of cheese with sauce on top, and you get a sauce pack to make it saucier. Now there's no sauce pack, and it looks like there's a layer of dough on top what we gotta just like get our own sauce or something i don't know man can you can you guys fix that if you win you can't fix chicago low blow yeah i mean unfortunately having lived the up there, I'm not sure that you can. It's like 80 years of Democrat leadership, and people just don't learn.

That's what you get. They're like, I voted for the Democrat last time, and everything's worse. I'm going to vote for a Democrat again. I love Chicago. All right, let's just grab a couple more of these super chats. All right, what do we got? Daniel Brent says, the police have no responsibility to protect us. They will sit back while children are murdered.

Uvalde and Parkland. Compromised institutions filled with cowards just like the GOP. Wow. Strong words. Listen, I don't think that's very fair. Most of us that have served in this business for 30 years, yes, we're questioning the judgment of those officers. And they're going to have a lot to live with. There's no question about it. I don't know what they were thinking. I know they were trying to listen to the chief of police or

something, but it would have been hell or high water. I would have gone in there no matter what. And you're taught in alert training, everyone's taught in alert training that when you get to an active shooter scene, you go in even if you're by yourself. I don't care if you have a vest or a shield or a shotgun or whatever. You go in and they chose not to. Wow. And they're going to have to live with that. And I think it's horrible.

I didn't agree with their actions. But I don't think it's fair to paint this all in that type of a light. The story that came out today, I think it came out today, about the husband or boyfriend who was armed and was stopped by the police who wanted to go in and save his wife or girlfriend who was killed was just gutting. That guy was going to be a hero. He was going to go be a hero and save his wife. One last one, and it's a good one.

Gnarly Marley says, If you claim to be for gun rights, why are're not actively trying to abolish the nfa well i'll phrase that in a question for you congressman would you be in are you in favor of abolishing the nfa the national firearms act no you're not i i would have to uh uh do more research research on it all i do know is i support the Second Amendment. This legislation coming across from the Senate, it may be tomorrow. It may not be tomorrow, but I won't support it. I don't believe that, you know, if we want to do everything we can to try to help prevent shootings and protect our children, as we should, my wife's a principal of an elementary school,

we need to harden our schools. We need to put law enforcement officers in our school, trained law enforcement officers in our school as well. So I think that's a step in the right direction. But I think it's sad that the left, every time you have a tragedy like this take place, they try to exploit those deaths and then they try to trample on people like me and my rights as an American citizen. The NFA basically makes it prohibitively expensive for people to get short-barreled rifles, suppressors, and select-fire rifles.

Listen, I support the idea of having suppressors because I have such hearing loss now. And so I think that... Listen, I support the Second Amendment. And I will continue to do so. And I don't believe that our government should be toying with this and playing with this. I tried buying suppressors, and I haven't been able to get them because it's literally impossible because of the NFA.

So the requirements to actually get an NFA item for me would require me to stop working. And so I get it. Like it's my choice to run a company. But because of the rules set forth and the amount of time it takes, I'm not able to get them. I think I should be able to go into a gun store and say, I'll take one suppressor, please. And they hand it to me and they put it in a box and that's it.

It's an accessory. But because of the NFA, I'm never going to be able to get one. I've been doing this 30 years and and i've been to many many crime scenes i've never been to a scene in 30 years where anybody has used a gun to go out and kill somebody that's had a suppressor on it really because they don't they're not one suppressors don't actually make it sound like pew pew like in the movies right i understand that's what's in the end it's all movie stuff no it's true like they base their gun policy on what they see in movies there's not double oh7s running around our country with suppressors shooting people.

That sounds like 007 talk to me. That's actually funny when you put it that way. It's like that is not who we're trying to stop right now. I'll keep arguing for repealing the NFA and the Hughes Amendment and restoring all those gun rights, but we'll wrap it up here. If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel. We are going to have more coming up for you at TimCast.com. It will go up at about 11 p.m. It's our members-only show. Uncensored, not family-friend. We've got a lot

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It's called A F-Ups Guide to the Universe where we talk about mental health a lot, tribalism, just being a good person and also admitting to your flaws, giving advice, all that kind of stuff. And then this Saturday at the Beacon Theater, you can see me and Tim, Tulsi Gabbard, Ian, Zuby, James O'Keefe, all sorts of people from the left and the right debate, do stand-up comedy. It's a really important event. And if we can pack this out, we can have more events. And I don't work for that company, for Mines, but they can have more events that promote free speech, that promote uncensored comedy. Ryan Long's also getting me into doing stand-up, who's hysterical. So that's Saturday at the Beacon Theater. You can get tickets or apply for free tickets at festival.minds.com.

Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun. There's also going to be Tyler Fisher and Chrissy Marr doing comedy between the panels, I believe. It's going to be so awesome. I'm really looking forward to it. Never been to New York City. I'm about to change that. I'm hoping... Whoa, it's your first time? Yeah. That's amazing. I know. I'm really

excited. It's going to be a really fun time. I'm hoping it lives up to my expectations. I'm hoping... Whoa, it's your first time? Yeah. That's amazing. No, I'm really excited. It's going to be a really fun time. I'm hoping it lives up to my expectations. I'm sure it won't in this economy. Anyway, you guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at SarahPetchlids as well as SarahPetchlids.me. There's also going to be a VIP meet and greet. So I guess if you go to the festival.minds.com

that's the URL, right? Festival.minds.com, yeah. They mentioned, I think, there's a meet and greet happening for VIP tickets, so if you want to get those. But for people who can't afford it, there's an option to get free tickets. Actually, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

just mentioned in the Super Chat saying it worked. The free tickets actually worked. Oh, awesome. So the idea is it's very expensive to put on an event at the Beacon Theater. You've got to understand that. One of the most historical theaters of all time. Yeah, it's massive.

It's like 3,000 seats. And so that's why the tickets cost what they do. But because of COVID, we're really trying to get as many people to come out as possible. So one of the reasons that it is so expensive is because they have great security. So I'm really not concerned.

So whatever happens on Friday happens on Friday and then I'm sure we'll be fine at the event. So come on down. All right, everybody. We will see you all over at TimCast.com. Thanks for hanging out. Bye, guys.