Timcast IRL - Timcast - Uncensored: Democrats Move To BAR Madison Cawthorne From Running Signal Something Dark is Coming w/Julie Kelly

Episode Date: February 6, 2022

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Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored. Every week we produce four uncensored episodes of the TimCast IRL podcast exclusively at TimCast.com and we're going to bring you the most important for our weekend show. If you want to check out more segments just like this, become a member at TimCast.com. Now enjoy the show. So the Democrats are trying to play a very dirty game which sends a very dangerous signal Now, enjoy the show. from running for reelection. He won. He's popular. People say, I'd like this man to represent me. So then the Democrats come out and say, call him an insurrectionist, sue him so he can't be in politics anymore. We are no longer in a representative constitutional republic. We are in

political lawfare between two different factions who don't care. I got to be honest, the Democratic establishment doesn't care what's true. They lie all day, every day. They lie, they cheat, they steal, they smear. We get it. They're using law enforcement to their advantage. And now they are using the weight of the judicial system to try and bar populist Republicans from running for office. Yo, I think we're in a civil war right now. Aside from the Madison Cawthorn thing, we have this other story from Politico, January 6th, select committee subpoenas phone records of Arizona GOP chair Kelly Ward. They're saying that, look at this, that she, where is this stupid bullshit? That she filed fraudulent documents claiming that she won, I don't even know where it is, the Daily Beast poll to select.

They're claiming that these people signed fraudulent elector slates and that they should be charged as insurrectionists for doing so. I just want to point out, I don't know if I want to go through this and figure out, let me see if I can just search for elector. There we go. Oh, it's right in the beginning. They say that they both signed documents falsely claiming to be among their state's presidential electors in 2020. This is the narrative being pushed by the left to claim that they were pushing forged documents to steal an election.

Except in 1960, we have this Wikipedia page where, where's the stupid Hawaii portion? You know what? Why did this all jump on me? Maybe change sides. Here we go. In the 1960 presidential election, Hawaii certified the Republican electors, but Democrats went and certified their own electors without the state, without winning the election. There was a court case and ultimately Richard Nixon said,

I'm going to go to the Democrats, even though it means I lose. This is historical precedent for the Democrats to come out now and claim that because they filed elector certificates and submitted them, they submitted forged documents just goes to show shit's getting fucking crazy. That's the easiest way to put it. I think we are at the front gates of civil war. And sure, you can argue it's like there's no hot conflict. There is. I mean, you know, Aaron Danielson was shot twice in the chest by a Black Lives Matter supporter. There is hot conflict. But once the violence, we've seen the political conflict on the ground. Now it's reached the highest levels of politics and government and law enforcement, the FBI, for instance, January 6th, all of that stuff. is when things get violent and that's scary. They are trying to stop the Marjorie Taylor Greens, the Lauren Boeberts, the Madison Cawthorns from being able to be elected officials through bullshit. And what happens if they win?

What happens if they lose? They're not going to de-escalate. So, I don't know, Julie, we talked a lot about what was going on with January 6th and the weight of the federal government going after regular people. Where do you think this all heads to? I mean, just the January 6th committee is subpoenaing people's private records, and they're expanding their reach.

It is abusive. What does it say, $100,000 to respond to this? Is it $100,000? At least, yeah. $100,000 to respond to subpoenas. Yo, we're in pre-Soviet era Russia. I mean, it's coming. Well, it absolutely is. And these

electoral, these phony electoral slates, they were like mailed to the National Archives and Congress, just like randomly mailed. I don't think that they were any official documents. It's not like they got together and actually had their own convention and tried to supersede the actual electors from their state.

So I'm not really sure where this is targeting. Again, it's just a fake story. But these subpoenas, I have to say, the big tech companies, the cell providers, they are playing right along with DOJ and with this committee, tracking down people's private information, confirming their email addresses, their social media accounts. It's really terrifying how the government is working hand in hand with big tech to collect this, to produce this evidence. And Alex Jones pointed out they had a lot of his private information, his texts. So they do. And these big tech companies aren't even fighting these subpoenas. I mean, have you heard of one battle where Google or AT&T or Verizon is challenging a subpoena? Hell no. They're handing it right over.

And I read it in every criminal indictment for criminal charging document for January 6th defendants, misdemeanors. They're like, we subpoenaed AT&T, Verizon. We subpoenaed Facebook, Instagram, Snap to confirm this person was identified. And then they match it up with their driver's license. I mean, it is a huge production waste of resources. What happened to Ray Epps? Where is he? I think he's still in Arizona.

And he's just not... He's just not doing his catering business or something. It's really crazy what's happening in this country. And I think people aren't going to go quietly. I'm really worried about what's going to happen this year, to be completely honest. The Ray Epps thing is a huge punch in the face to people who are paying attention. That the narrative is a lie. That it was, who was, I'm forgetting the guy's name, Kinzinger.

Adam Kinzinger. Yeah, when he was like, he just said go into the capitol but he didn't actually do it it's like trump didn't even say anything like that but wait let's back up too and then adam kinzinger lied remember um this was after the senate judiciary committee when ted cruz confronted um the doj and fbi officials wanted to know who ray epps was so that night the january 6th committee came out. They tweeted out a statement. Adam Kinzinger said, we talked to Ray Epps. He is not a lot. He's not an informant for law enforcement, doesn't represent law enforcement, never did, et cetera, et cetera. Then they had to come out, what, two weeks ago and say, oh, we're going to do a formal sit down with Ray Epps

because everyone was saying, okay, well, let's see the transcript then. Release the, well, they didn't. They had an informal interview with him. Now they're saying they're going to have a sworn testimony from him. But look, more importantly than that, the same hearing, you had the FBI counterterrorism chief, Jill Sanborn. She was asked twice by Ted Cruz, how many FBI agents or informants either incited or were involved in violent behavior on January 6th? Twice, she refused to answer the question. Ray Epps is the tip of the iceberg, right?

I mean, he is the symbol because people can kind of grasp like, okay, well, why is this guy, why is he not charged? Why is the media white knighting him? You know, everybody, the memos are insurrectionists, but all of a sudden they're like, well, Ray Epps, you know, he was pretty. But the guy who called for it. The guy who was like literally whispering in the ear of the first person who broke through the barrier before they did. Or the barrier that was broken through rather than the one that was removed by police.

That's exactly right. Let's give people some context. So it is a lot of speculation about this Ray Epsky and potential FBI involvement. But there is a lot we know about the Whitmer plot and the FBI's involvement. So can you break the story down for us? This story is crazy. I'm going to try to go through it as quickly as possible. So the FBI infiltrated these militia groups, as I said.

Militia groups, I think of them, are a lot of FBI constructs anyway. They had some random guys on Facebook talking about the anti-lockdown rallies in Michigan. FBI infiltrated it, ran informants into it, hosted and paid for national militia conferences, if you can believe that anyone would go to it. But they lured these suspects and other suspects into these conferences. They paid for and organized all the optics, the surveillance trips, the training camps. So they had the FBI had all of the suspects who were like aiming their rifles and they're pretending they're going to go after Gretchen Whitmer's

vacation cottage. Anyway, it turns out they announced the arrest of these men in October of 2020, as early voting is underway in Michigan. Arrest six men for federal crimes, another eight men for state charges. Anyway, it turns out there is many FBI informants or agents involved in this plot. Is there are defendants? Okay, fine. We say that's great. The top three FBI agents have been removed from the case. The top FBI agent was fired by the FBI after he assaulted his wife in a drunken rage after a swingers party. He was actually fired by the FBI, which is almost impossible to do right so he

signed the criminal complaint he's off the case the other two top fbi agents also have been removed from the witness list one of their top informants who organized all these surveillance trips lured people to the militia conference paid for everything the drive the cars the hotels everything else um they're now accusing him of being a double agent. They might actually charge their own informant, who is a convicted felon, by the way, who committed two other crimes during the Whitmer-Caper. They might charge him as a co-defendant along with the federal defendants, which would remove him from the defense witness list because

the defense has put together what I think a very compelling case of FBI entrapment. So that he can plead the fifth. Yeah, exactly. I was just going to say it. Wow. So if they can't, they don't understand. No, this is mind-blowing shit. You could not make this up, okay?

So the defense counsel has put together this entrapment case. They actually asked the judge to compel the government, this DOJ, to offer immunity to their own FBI agents so the defense could call them as witnesses and they would get some sort of protected immunity for their testimony. I mean, this is crazy stuff. So the trial's supposed to start on March 8th. Here's the tie to January 6th, just one. The head of the Detroit FBI field office, Stephen D'Antuono, and I'm going to credit Darren Beatty because he's the one that found this. The arrests were announced October 8th, 2020. A week later, Stephen D'Antuono is moved from the Detroit FBI field office to where? D.C. FBI field office.

A huge promotion. The same FBI office that's basically in charge of all the prosecution's investigations for January 6th, but also would have been in charge of any informants or agents who are involved in the events of January 6th. There's so many similarities. But this case is falling apart. And who knows what's going to happen now. If they charge their own informant as a double agent and make him a co-defendant, then the defense can't call him.

Yo, this is really scary shit, all of this stuff happening. Yes, it is. There is a war against regular people in this country. The machine is trying to seize power. Ian was mentioning this a bit on the main show about how first they try to bribe you. Then they go for an assassination. Then they go for a full-scale invasion. And so relating that to what we're seeing, it's like they tried the propaganda and the propaganda has failed.

And now they're going full fucking boot on the neck. Let me ask you a question. Have you heard all of this information about the Whitmer? Anyone? A little bit. The me ask you a question. Have you heard all of this information about the Whitmer? Anyone? A little bit. The Play the Fifth thing, I may have heard something about it, but not like I didn't. But it's being completely memory hold. The media is not picking up. They haven't

written one thing about it. Never. Never, ever, ever. I believe it was actually one of your former guests, Tim, who was talking about this. He basically said that one of the theories for why certain actors on January 6th who were suspected by the public of being feds are being charged with sedition is so that they can't be forced to testify in the other hearings. Like Stuart Rhodes? Yes.

The Oath Keepers guy, do you think he's a fed? I think he's associated with some group. Now, there's also the feds, but there's also political actors, right? So think of Christopher Steele. We were told he was an ex-British intelligence officer. Not only was he an FBI informant, he was also obviously paid by DNC and Clinton's and also a Russian lobbyist for Oleg Deripatska. So he straddled all of these worlds.

As swampy as a person can be. So there are a lot of political actors in here, too, that may kind of straddle that world. Maybe they were informants. Maybe they were in the military. Maybe they were something. And then they were snatched up by who knows. Look at all the money on the left. They could work for any number of organizations.

So Stuart Rhodes, no. Do I think the Stuart Rhodes story is legit? No. What's the story? Well, finally, after a year and after a lot of people raised the point, why is Stuart Rhodes, who was person one in the Oath Keepers conspiracy case, why do you have 20 some odd people who've been charged? But person one has not been charged over a year later. I mean, there are Oath Keepers who have been in jail now for a year awaiting trial,

but person one in every single indictment isn't. So finally, they indict Stuart Rhodes on seditious conspiracy. They add 10 other Oath Keepers who've already been charged. He is under pretrial detention right now. He's going to be transported from Texas to the D.C. gulag. But there's still something super sketchy about that whole case, his involvement, and why for over a year. If he led, and then he hasn't filed a tax return since 2007.

How do you get away with that? He makes no money? If you make under a certain amount, you don't got to file a tax return. Well. Yeah. Yeah. But, okay, well, it's still... Weird.

Extremely bizarre. And it's also extremely strange that they would wait a full year to go after him. It was, again, your former guest who mentioned this. Well, the thing about them gathering evidence doesn't really hold water because if this person... They haven't at all. No, no, no. Because first of all, this person's a flight risk, right?

They needed the story in an election year. Okay. Fair enough. But I guess my point is this person was not arrested and charged on the basis of whether they really committed a crime, but on the basis of what was politically expedient. That's what it seems like. I think for sure they would have tapped Stuart Rhodes if the deep state was looking for somebody to get ahead of the Oath Keepers. Unless he's in with them.

Oh, that's what I mean when I say they tapped him. They're like, hey, you're working with us now. If you disagree, then some bad shit's going to come your way. What they do is they start the organization. That's what I mean when I say they're captive. They're like, hey, you're working with us now. If you disagree, then some bad shit's going to come your way. What they do is they start the organization. That's right. They start the militia and then try and attract anybody. This has been the MO for the FBI for decades. Forever, man.

So the Oath Keepers maybe is. Remember that guy in the 90s who claimed that they were trying to get him to blow up the World Trade Center? What was his name? Soleil, Soleil or something like that. Can you look it up? So there was this dude. I haven't read the story in a long time, so you know probably fact check me. But he's like, they wanted me to get a van and put bombs in it and then bring it to the World Trade Center.

But he got scared and he backed away. He was like, I'm not fucking doing that. Are you crazy? And then he came out and was like, they told me to do it. What the fuck? They said they were trying to catch somebody. I don't even know how to search for that. World Trade Center bombing, Salam

Saleh or something like that. Something like that. It's so bizarre and it's so terrifying and with this deep state activity, I mentioned this, sort of being red-pilled more recently, I think, and recently I mean, you know, past five or six years after

Trump came to office and really coming to recognize the kind of behavior that the deep state is willing to engage in. But also, it's no surprise when you actually pay attention to what they do in other countries. It's completely within the realm of normality and the status quo for our government to create or fund groups that they later go on to fight themselves. I don't know why we would assume they're above doing that on their own soil. They do it everywhere else. Well, here's one point about that related to January 6th, too.

So you had all these Proud Boys, right? We were told. And we know that there were informants run into that. The New York Times has confirmed it. You see all these guys in neon hats who are with the Proud Boys during the first breach. Now, remember, you have Ray Epps who whispers in the ear of Ryan Samsel, as you said. Ryan Samsel is the first guy who breaches kind of these light bike racks or whatever. Who is behind them?

All these Proud Boys, including these guys in neon caps. I mean, there's dozens of them. There are only about 20 men who have been charged related to the Proud Boys. It's Not 100. It's not 150. You've got like 20. You've got total 50 militia people tied to alleged militia groups who have been charged related to January 6th. But if you look, you saw a huge group of Proud Boys.

Well, where are the rest of them? Yeah, the whole thing's a farce. And it's also important to note here, we're talking about the people in them. Yeah, the whole thing's a farce. And it's also important to note here, we're talking about the people in these militias, quote unquote, that were either infiltrated by the feds or started by the feds and how some of them are going down with some more serious charges. And obviously the idea there is not only to malign the right and not only to make it easier to go to war with the American people and suppress political dissent, but also to disincentivize your average person who might be inclined to be more involved in politics to join one of these organizations because you might end up in some kind of trouble.

Of course, to a lesser extent, they're also going after what are sometimes called the MAGA tourists, the people who had the doors open for them walkthrough. They're generally getting very, very light charges for their crimes. But nonetheless, that makes your average person go, you know, I'm not going to go to any protest or rally because if something pops off, it could end up destroying my life, my reputation, and I could get charges. Ian found the name. I got the story from the Baltimore Sun. Informer claims FBI called off plan to foil Trade Center bombing in New York. The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb

and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an FBI supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer Imad A. Salam should be used, the informer said. So basically the story is the FBI was like, hey, we want you to catch these guys, so we're going to have you help

them build a bomb, but the powder will be fake. Then calls it off so the terrorists get real powder and fucking had a bomb go off in the World Trade Center in 93.

Fucking nuts, dude. Wow. What the fuck? Yeah, the explosion left six people dead, more than a thousand injured. So this is confirmed the 1993 bombing

at the World Trade Center actually happened because the FBI failed to... Look, look. It's from the Baltimore Sun, baby. Law enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center

and planned to thwart them by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast. The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an FBI supervisor who had other ideas. The account, which is given in the transcript of hundreds of hours of tape recordings, Mr. Solemn secretly made of his talks with law enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as in a far better position than previously known to foil the bombing in New York City's tallest towers.

A 43-year-old Egyptian army officer was used by the government to penetrate a circle of Muslim extremists now charged in two bombing cases. He's a crucial witness in the second bombing case. After the bombing, he resumed his work, et cetera, et cetera. Yo, man. They could have shut it down. They didn't. They knew they were building bombs.

This guy was supposed to help them build the bomb. I mean, this is just – wow. So it's confirmed and it's been public knowledge that the FBI – It's Baltimore Sun, dude. Yeah, yeah. And this is also – this is published in 1993. Yep. 1993, the Baltimore Sun, NewsGuard certified, 92.5 out of 100. So it has basically always been public knowledge that the 1993 World Trade Center attacks – I'm sorry. It's by the New York Times.

Oh, never mind. I don't believe it. Oh, picked up by the Baltimore Sun. So, I mean, this is mind-blowing to me. I never heard anything about this. Now, granted, this happened long before I was born. It's not an event people usually reference. It's very much been overshadowed by the 2001 World Trade Center attacks. But the fact that it is literally just public knowledge and was published that the FBI was

involved in the terror attacks at the World Trade Center in 93 is- And 2000, well, no, not 2001. A little bit shocking to me right i mean it's not it's it's not shocking to me that they would do something like that it's shocking to me that it's just been out in the open like this i know dude the false flags are so nuts i i don't know if pearl harbor was if they just let it happen to get into war but that's fucking golf of tonkin golf of tonkin was bullshit the pearl harbor thing is crazy because i think um there's a lot of conspiracies that they instigated it and knew and were planning like they wanted it to happen.

I think it's possible that word reached the highest level that the Japanese fleet was en route and they were just like, stand down. You know what I mean? Because they were like, we need entrance to the war. But I got to be honest. I don't know about that one because we needed that fleet to fight the war. But I gotta be honest. I don't know about that one because we needed that fleet to fight the war. And I know people say the aircraft carriers were not there, but that's a very hindsightous 2020 thing because no war had ever been fought with aircraft carriers

like that before. And also, it's just the U.S. was selling weapons to Britain. The Japanese thought they had an opportunity to strike when the U.S. wasn't paying attention. Because they thought the U.S. was going to enter the war anyway. So the U.S. Look, if you tell me that a bunch of government bureaucrats weren't paying attention and thought they were invincible and we got hit,

that sounds a bit more reasonable. Hard for the course. When I start to tread on like did they – are they involved, I get fucking 9-11, dude. First of all, when people talk about tragedies as a date, like hey, remember January 6th? Remember 9-11? Something's wrong if you're using the date to

rile up memories of what happened. The story of 9-11 that we've been given is obviously not true. Yeah, they found the passport on top of the rubble and all that crap. Hold on, hold on. Don't jump the gun. It's a great story. It's obviously not true, but we don't know what happened, and conspiracy theorists have gone nuts with it.

No, no, I agree with you, but I guess my point is I'm not saying that it was an inside job. I have no idea what happened there, but the fact that there were things like the passport of one of the hijackers being perfectly intact on top of the rubble is just ridiculous. It's ridiculous, but that's the official story.

The problem I have with the 9-11 truthers is that they think they know. Exactly. It's like they're asserting it was an inside job. I'm like, dude, dude, dude, look. First of all, who did it? We can take their word for it or not. The fact is the government keeps secrets.

Exactly. They're not going to reveal to the public how one of the greatest security failures in this country happened on their watch. Amen. So they come out and they say it was the terrorists. Here's the proof. In reality, it could have been the terrorists. Absolutely. But they bypassed our security in an extreme way.

I don't think the United States is going to be like, here's how they did it. Well, you saw what the cops did at the January 6th. Let the people walk in. I mean, I can't put it past law enforcement and be like, here's the keys. Here's the door. I'm not involved. But if you blow it up, so be it. I think there's a lot of bullshit.

World Trade Center 7, obviously. World Trade Center 7, 1 and 2. I mean, fucking. You know, look, two buildings. The 7 with the planes. So here's the thing. I say this with absolutely no background in structural engineering or anything like that. But I don't know if it's so unthinkable that two gigantic skyscrapers collapsing next to a building which is on fire might cause it to collapse. I think that's possible.

You mean World Trade Center 7 falling down because of fires? Well, yeah. So World Trade Center 7 was on fire, and I think they say the sprinklers weakened the structural integrity, and then the two buildings collapsing next to it was like a seismic effect that resulted in a collapse. The worst time in history that a building collapsed due to a fire. Isn't that crazy? Well, I think it was also the seismic activity of the two gigantic skyscrapers next to it falling. But only just World Trade Center 7?

Do you know where World Trade Center 7 is compared to it? Yeah, no, no, no, it's true. There's a lot of other buildings. Look, World Trade Center 7 is a hole in whatever it is they're talking about. They say gas tanks were exploding and a fire happened and it's just like, and then 5 p.m. the building just fell down. Whatever, man. I don't know.

I think it's fair to say the conspiracy theorists have made up a whole bunch of crazy-ass bullshit, like microthermite nanotechnology. Oh, nanothermite, yeah. I'm like, dude, dude, dude. They examined the dust and found nanothermite, which is a military-grade incendiary. Who found it? Architects and engineers for 9-11 truth.

He's like my buddy. You want to know? That's my point. Well, I defer to these architects and engineers for 9-11 truth. There's a committee of like 1,600 architects and engineers across the globe. You want to know the truth? Throw all that 9-11 inside job bullshit out the window. I can tell you why World Trade Center 1 and 2 collapsed.

For the first time in history, buildings collapsed due to a fire. First of all, the planes crashed. I know it weakened the structure. That we understand. The jet fuel was burning. It doesn't need to melt the steel beams. It just weakens them, and then they start falling down. But let me just make it very, very simple for you.

What's more plausible? That elements of the U.S. government conspired for, in a grand plot, to hydrate several planes, planes hitting the Pentagon, the White House, Trade Center 7, 1 and 2? Or, in the 1970s, when they were building these skyscrapers, the Port Authority said, who's going to build our buildings? And one guy said, I'll do it for X million dollars And one guy said, I'll do it for X million dollars. Another guy said, I'll do it for even less than that. And then they went, the price goes to the lowest bidder.

And then they said, yo, John, we can't build these buildings for $100 million. The center support columns that support it in the event of a plane crash or a fire are going to cost $10 million alone. And he goes, yo, a plane's never going to hit these fucking buildings. Cut that out. We can do the project. That makes infinitely more sense than government inside job. Yeah. Cutting corners

and trying to save money to pay... You know, there's a famous quote. I think it's from Buzz Aldrin. They said, what was going through your mind as the rocket was taking off?

And he said that the rocket had been built by the lowest bidder. Yeah. So do you guys think... This is something that I was talking to somebody about earlier this week. I think it was. We're talking about 9-11 because I'm not a truther. I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

No, me neither. Based on what we just read about the 1993 bombing in the World Trade Center, is it possible that the government just kind of stepped back and let this happen? Do you guys think that's a possibility? You think on 9-11? Yeah, the whole 9-11. Well, Dick Cheney stood down the Air Force, which was kind of strange. I think that's a possibility you think on 9-11 yeah the whole thing well dick cheney stood down the air force which was kind of strange i think it's possible yeah yeah i don't think so a lot of a lot of uh hijackings in the past they were like let it do its thing the

hijackers are probably going to take the plane to haiti or africa and then everyone we like you what are you going to do shoot it down full of people right yeah i don't i look you can be trusting of the government you can be hyper untrusting, yeah. I don't, look, you can be trusting of the government. You can be hyper-untrusting of the government. I don't know. What I can say is it's not unreasonable to be like, do not scramble the Air Force for hijacked jets because you'll just get people killed. And the assumption is often with hijacked planes, they're trying to fly somewhere they're not supposed to fly to, to get somewhere.

And then you want to keep these people alive. With, you know, I don't want to be trusting of the government and i think they're lying about a whole lot but i think if i had to flip if i'm trying to like figure out what really happened i can say i don't trust the government but isn't it just more simple that something really fucked up did happen and they're just not going to tell us because they don't want to expose how our security had been bypassed yeah i mean no it's true i completely agree with you there i think people can go too far in another direction when they first wake up and they see that the government

is lying to them about things and that there are activities that the deep state engages in, which are clearly destructive and they have no problem getting people hurt. You might assume that they're like under every single rock. And then you end up with this sort of paranoid thinking where you're on the other end of the spectrum. It's funny. You have people who are very naive and trust in the government

and see it as like a godlike force. But then on the other end, people become so cynical that they see the government as a kind of evil god which is capable of pulling anything off. And as soon as something goes wrong, it must have been them. Yeah. I found Niels, what's his name? Niels Heret is the scientist.

I think he's a Dutch guy that has been studying the nanothermite. They did a NIST. How did he get the materials? They had the official thing, National Institute of Science Technology, NIST, was the name of the company that did the official investigation. They were like, hey, nothing happened.

It was exactly what we thought it was. Did we lose something? I don't know. Someone's yelling or something. And then they did a second investigation. I'd have to get more information of the names of the investigation and stuff. But it was a big global project to investigate the rubble and do like a real investigation because the government like dropped the ball with NIST.

I don't know. I think a lot of people made crazy assertions about it. I think there's a lot of bullshit surrounding it. I think people are – they're like, did you know that Larry Silverstein took out an insurance policy specifically covering acts of terrorism only a few weeks before 9-11. And I was like, why the fuck wouldn't he? What the fuck? Like, dude, if you buy a bunch of big buildings, you insure them for terror attacks, especially when they've been attacked before. That's not evidence, man.

I thought George Bush had no idea about any of it. When I saw his reactions that day, I was like, what the fuck's going on? What the fuck? But that doesn't mean anything man the man in the yellow hat the point is you know wrapping everything together it's that

we know the FBI is involved in such bullshit that people don't trust the government man they don't they overtly cause false flags on their own population

to get them into war it's crazy well well well Gulf of Tonkin have overtly I shouldn't say that

they always and operation northwoods you're familiar with northwoods oh boy yeah you love this one so this was uh was it joint chiefs of staff to jfk proposed blowing up planes and blaming the cubans he proposed staging mock invasions of florida with people dressed as cubans to to warrant an invasion of cuba yeah he wanted jfk was like invasion of Cuba. Yeah, he wanted Cubans. JFK was like, fuck, no. Yeah, they actually wanted Cubans or they wanted to have Cuban actors, basically.

Or maybe it would have been Cuban militias that they gave money to, but they basically wanted them to attack American military bases. Yeah, and this is overtly historical record. Yeah, this is like Wikipedia stuff. Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against American citizens that originated in the U.S. Department of Defense in 1962.

The proposal called for the CIA operatives to stage and actually commit acts of terror against American military and civilian targets, blaming them on the Cuban government, using it to justify war with Cuba. JFK was like, fuck off with that shit. We're not doing that. Absolutely not. And then Lyndon B. Johnson was like, fucking kill him. Yeah. I don't know about all that. I wonder if Lyndon was involved.

I don't think he was. Here's the thing. I have no idea about the JFK assassination other than it is the case that the official report has been disbelieved by, at some points when it's been surveyed, something like 80% of the population. I'm not as familiar with the JFK assassination story as I am some of these other theories and ideas. I haven't followed it very closely, but there are just from some of the details, like the magic bullet theory and also the fact that Oswald wasn't taking credit for it

and was even saying that he was set up. And then Jack Ruby killed him before he could go to trial. Exactly. Now, what did John Wilkes Booth do after killing Lincoln? He was a diva about it. He did it in a theater. He yelled out to everybody about how Lincoln was a tyrant. I mean, if you're going to kill the president of the United States,

you're doing it for political reasons, and you're going to make your desires known. The whole thing is really, really weird. I think it's kind of funny when you think about John Wilkes Booth. He's like, these states want to own people. So he called Lincoln the tyrant and killed him. Yeah. He's like, dude, he's like, that really stopped you from owning people. Exactly.

I think you guys are fucked up. No, yes. I mean, look, definitely not pro john wilkes booth here but it's you see that when someone's gonna but when someone's going to assassinate a sitting president of the united states they have a manifesto they have demands they have a rationale they don't go i was set up like i'm not saying it's impossible but it's weird have you watched the movie shooter is that where the guy's in the phone booth? Mark Wahlberg is a retired sniper, one of the best in the world. They come to him and they say that someone is going to try to assassinate this world leader.

We need your expertise to spot him before he can do it. So they bring him to a building overlooking the speech and they say, all right, tell us what you think. And he's got binoculars and he's like, it's definitely me coming from that direction. That's the way with the wind you want to do it. Then he turns around and some fat cop just pulls out a gun and shoots him in the gut. And then he falls out the window. And then they tell the media the local cop is a hero who stopped the assassination or whatever. Like watch the movie.

It's whoa. Yeah. And then he like tracks down the conspiracy and all that shit. I don't know if the Kennedy documentary I just saw was the – what's the dude's name that did Platoon? Stone. Stone, Oliver Stone. I don't know if it was Oliver's new documentary. I know he just did a new one too.

Oh, yeah. He did the JFK one in the 90s. I just saw one. Yeah, yeah, with Kevin Costner. I just saw like three – two months, a month ago, a month and a half ago, a JFK documentary. It was really eye-opening. I got to check it out. No, what I saw was a documentary.

In the 90s. He did a movie with Kevin Costner. Well, I to check it out. No, what I saw was a documentary. In the 90s. He did a movie with Kevin Costner. Well, I'll check it out. That sounds fun. Yeah. I mean, I sort of joked about it. Again, I have no idea about the JFK assassination, but I don't trust the government. The line I have is like, if Biden's such a devout Catholic, why hasn't the CIA killed him yet?

Yeah, when you see- Because JFK was the first. No, exactly. Yeah. Well, to be fair, I don't know that you'd call JFK devout though some say some say he did repent before he died interestingly enough

in the car on the road I was like I better repent and then yeah some say he like went to confession right before

but again you have so many deathbed conversion stories with so many people so this we got a little off the rails but it is what it is

Julie thanks for hanging out it's been a blast you guys thank you so much for having me so much fun thanks for informing us on what's going on with. You guys, thank you so much for having me. So much fun. Thanks for informing us on what's going on with the government and everybody who's a member. You guys informed me, too. I got to go look up this Operation Northwood.

Check it out. Oh, yeah. Now I feel like a historical literate. Northwood's is the one that- Oh, yeah. I know all about it. Yeah. Yeah.

Northwood's was one of those ones that really shook me when I first heard about it. That's right. Whoa. All right, everybody. Thanks for being members and supporting our work and this website and our show. We'll see you all next time.