Timcast IRL - TimcastIRL #36 - Iran, Russia, China Media Push COVID Bioweapon Theory, Is Disinfo An Act Of War?

Episode Date: March 31, 2020

This podcast opens with discussion of whether disinformation can be an act of war, and how the mainstream media is a willing accomplice, if it is.  Next on the docket, feminism in the time of the pandemic is especially harmful in Spain, and two different pastors are affected in different ways by the virus, raising questions about what would make it easier to contain the spread of viruses like this - like China has.  A movie review follows, and finally, conversation surrounding the idea of a coronavirus 'baby boom'.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You ready? Yo, you ready? We're ready. Yep. What's going on everybody? I am Tim, Tim Poole, and this is Adam. Hey. Kregler. That's me. How's it going everybody? All right. Hey, we're back. We didn't, we weren't here on Friday because I was on the verge of death. I'm just very exhausted and I was like, I can't move, help me please. Not actual death, but uh. Figurative death. Figurative death. Yeah, I was just like, dude, I need to just lay down and stare at a screen. I think I ate something bad actually. Oh really? Yeah, because usually what I do is when I do my morning show, then I go eat, and then I come back, and I was just like, ugh. That's okay. I just played Division 2.

There you go. Was it good? Yeah. Yeah, New York. They're back in. It's crazy how many similarities. You know how you find the random microphone recordings every so often? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's the same thing. Every single one I'm listening to, and it's like preppers like man we should have gotten we should have gotten more food or someone else is like give me your food. And I'm like oh my gosh this is kind of funny. You know man

they're why are they saying F? They always do this. That's what they do now. That's what they do. No because there's a delay. Right. Right.

Right. But I started the stream early. That's all right. Whatever. No worries. So there's a there's food riots starting up in Sicily yeah because the my understanding is that the ferry company that shipped the food back and forth went out of business so now because of coronavirus or

just in general yeah the economic shut down for three weeks and boom they were gone now the food's not coming in then people can't get food it's not just that but some people people on the island they don't make money anymore so they ran out of money i'll tell you what man no food no money but on an island and no no no it's worse than that that's sounds pretty bad already if your mom is in bed and she's sick and hungry and she's like please can you get me food you're gonna be like anything yeah anything and then they they show up and they bring rocks and they're like i don't care i don't care about you i care about my mom so they're organizing on Facebook group raids to go raid grocery stores. So it's getting serious.

We're actually, you know, I got to do the general plug before we get started, though, because we're going to get in. This is good. Yeah. The lead of this is that, you know, earlier this month, there was a story from Defense One about Iranian, Russian and Chinese media pushing the bioweapon conspiracy theories. They're blaming the United States for it. We've seen this from the U.S. Twitter doesn't care that China is saying the U.S. military did this, and it's insane, yet they'll, like,

delete a tweet from, you know, Trump or something. But this is going to be our lead story. We've got a bunch of other stories. People are getting arrested. We're seeing a rise in, I guess, authoritarianism. But make sure you hit that like button if you haven't. And it really does help. Subscribe, hit the notification bell. We do the show Monday through Friday at 8 p.m. We try to. And then we put up clips every day. So make sure you subscribe. The podcast is up on Apple and Spotify. And we're trying to get it up on every single platform. So thanks for hanging out. And yeah, make sure to follow us. You can see my Twitter handle right up there and twitter instagram follow me follow me on twitter and um and and as we now have gone to

the wide shot i have a special uh announcement you can see here the new centerpiece for the show this is giant eagle 1000 1000 sheet bath tissue this is in fact toilet paper i think i think this is like the big pack you can get when you're in like the middle of nowhere yeah like the biggest you can get you're like oh a four pack yeah and it's four thousand sheets they want to make sure you're set well the reason for those that are wondering is because someone actually sent us this that's true and uh it's got to be what like a like maybe what do you think like a thousand dollars of the toilet paper right there give or take a few years Give or take a few years.

Give or take a few years. Make sure you stock up. No, but someone really did send us some toilet paper. Thank you. And some mixed beans and some rice and some chia seeds. They sent a bunch of random things. Broccoli rice. The story here was that he listened to the stuff that we said that it looked like they were kind of running out of.

And he sent us all that stuff from his store. Oh, yeah. They gave us the mustard. The Ingolhoffer mustard. Ingolhoffer mustard. We love it. We couldn't find it anywhere around. They sent it to us.

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I'm going to make a really nice sandwich tomorrow. Some chow cheese. Put some chow cheese on it yeah cheese so uh let's let's let's go to the first story because we we were going to talk about like climate change stuff too which which we we will get into this but the the lead story is the uk is pissed off because china's been engaged in this disinformation campaign since the start of this they've been lying lying to us. It's been getting worse. And I had to wonder, like, at what point do we consider that an act of war? Yeah, good point. So BuzzFeed reported that Chinese trolls are going online and they're sowing disinformation,

which results in a slower response. And it actually results in people dying. Civilians. This is not like a military thing. So at what point do we say they're actually killing our people and we do something about it? I honestly don't know. But in this whole like controversy involving the UK government, they're, you know, this circumstance, they're actually saying they think China's numbers are 15 to 40 times worse. So that China might actually have like 45,000 dead. Why would people choose to like believe this kind of stuff? But then when convenience, yeah, it's like, they're obviously not giving us the truth with their numbers, but then they're like, oh, well, but they say it's the U S now. So let's jump on that and run with that story.

Political experience. So you get some journalists who's trying to craft a narrative. They know what the story is before they even looked anything up. They don't, up all this information and then think to themselves, like, whoa, here's what's happening. They say, how do I do a story about Boris Johnson of the UK being bad? Ooh, I know. Here's a story from China. And they say, but China says this. It's like as if we take anything they say seriously. Right, exactly. So I see this story and I started wondering about what the limit would be to where we actually say, hey, man, you know, you're getting people killed. And this is a story from Defense One from March 10th, where you have major adversaries of the United States. You know, their media is pushing bioweapon conspiracy theories.

I believe what they say in this article that Iran is is the main culprit in doing this. So you have Chinese officials going on Twitter claiming the U.S. military spread this in China. Officials are saying. Officials. Yep. I thought you were saying regular citizens. Verified Twitter user. Oh, wow. And Twitter does nothing. That's ridiculous. Yeah, man. So listen, this is going to damage our reputation around the world. It's going to impede our ability to get supplies. At what point? I don't know. I think I feel like every story I'm reading is people all these different countries are like pissed at china for sending them bunk like face masks yeah but it's your test it's

europe it's not you know iran dude uh did i tell you about what china was doing back in january no i don't know siphoning away recent medical resources from aust, Canada, and other countries. No, I didn't hear that. So this was Sydney Morning Herald and news.com.au in Australia. Okay. A whistleblower came out and said that around the time that China was telling all of the world there was no problem, no human-to-human transmission, they were advising their employees in foreign countries to start buying up as much medical supplies as possible, like hazmat suits, masks, PPE gear, and shipping them off to China as much as they could. And they did.

And Canada and Australia were two countries that gave away a ton of their medical gear. And now we're all panicked. We can't get it. And then when masks were being made in China by American companies, China turned around and took it back. So China knew. And we have a timeline that going back to like December, China had evidence there was human-to-human transmission, and this was getting really bad. But then January 5th or something, the WHO was like...

15th. Oh, 15th. They were like, China says there's... So like a month later, basically. China says there's no human-to-human transmission in preliminary tests. And then they have... Do you see that guy from WHO? Yeah.

When asked about time off? Shut the camera off turns his skype off yes what is up with that and it's like it makes me feel like the who is just a chinese entity like uh japan are you supposed to believe them japan apparently called them the chinese health organization like just straight up called him out really the dude so so for those that aren't familiar right there was a a woman a woman from Hong Kong interviewing a guy from the World Health Organization. And she said, I wanted to ask you about Taiwan's response. And the guy just says nothing.

He stares blankly. And she's like, hello. And he goes, oh, I didn't hear you. But let's move on to a different question. No, no, no. She goes, let me ask you again. No, that's OK. We'll take another question.

She's like, no, I want to ask you about Taiwan. And then, boop, turns off Skype. Yep. They call him back. And then when she asks him again, calls it china oh we've talked about china already all over china they've had a great response no they know they haven't you know they're lying about their numbers they're cranking out uh the crematoriums are running at full capacity according to numerous stories yeah and it's it's and i think what like china china screwed

up china lied they exploited it They're exploiting it now. Their disinformation is getting people killed in our countries. And every step of the way, they're doing this this really annoying tactic of like whatever we say, they say it right back. So when we started seeing people question whether or not this originated in a Chinese lab. Yeah. So there was a study out of and this is this is China's fault. Not anything to do with us. There was a study out of South china university saying that some guy was doing experience was researching bat coronavirus right and then he had gotten bitten or that he had you know been peed on or something and so he self-quarantined and that may have been the cause

because this was like literally across the street from the from the food market i don't know what article i was reading but i did read one i can't verify it because i don't know what article I was reading, but I did read one. I can't verify it because I don't have it with me, but it's saying that it's not man-made. This is a biological from an animal that happened to be, you know, transferred to a human and then exploded from there.

And we've known about the possibility of this for a long time. Yeah. It's happened before in smaller numbers and weaker viruses. Sometimes you win the lottery, man. It happens. Now, I do think it's hilarious, and I don't Sometimes you win the lottery, man. It happens. Now, I do think it's hilarious.

And I don't mean hilarious isn't like, haha, we're having a good time. I mean, like, eerily strange, kind of funny. That it's like we had a meme, a meme going around of like 2020. We're going to have a pandemic. And everyone's laughing and they're like, haha. Yeah. And then it happened. Yeah.

Then it actually happened. Yeah. Well, we should actually read this bioweapon thing. Yeah. So I don't know anything about this, actually. Yeah, basically the reason I bring this up is, like, they're throwing extreme conspiracies back in our face. And what worries me is if we have this disinformation that's getting people killed, this right here is them accusing us of an act of war. Yeah.

So at what point? Everyone, I mean, I heard rumors for two months now that oh did they do this on purpose is this a biological attack like it's not like this is a rumor that is just popping up it's almost like they heard i mean i don't i don't see any senator or like trump didn't say like i think it's a biological attack you know it's like it's random people who are just conspiracy theorists saying it well for them it's it's a biological attack. You know, it's like it's random people who are just conspiracy theorists saying it. Well, for them, it's like their media, right? Yeah. So let's actually let's let's let's read this. Get some context. Defense One says Chinese authorities

maintain that COVID-19 likely originated at a market in Wuhan where people were selling bat meat. But Iranian, Russian and Chinese propaganda media outlets would like you to believe without evidence. I love that without evidence that the emerging public health crisis comes from U.S. biological weapons. Disinformation about the coronavirus is spreading as quickly as the outbreak fueled by Iranian, Russian and Chinese government backed campaigns, blaming and attacking the United States as the source of the scourge. One narrative all three countries, including China, highlight is the notion that the U.S. is weaponizing the crisis for political gain and thus worsening its spread globally. Rachel Chernasky, a project manager for the Foreign Influence Election 2020 project with the Foreign Policy Research Institute,

wrote yesterday. You know what's funny? It's true. Literally what I've been saying. That part's true. No, no, I totally disagree. Well, you mean the Democrats weren't like using this to try to sneak more stuff into the bill that they just passed? Yeah, but not globally. Okay, not globally. Yeah, okay. Well, so I guess the way I see it when they say the U.S. is weaponizing it for political gain, it sounds like— Well, and thus worsening it spread globally, I feel, as a separate statement to the first part, is weaponizing the U.S. for political gain period i definitely think that there is an an activist media contingent with with a political overlap okay that are trying to exploit this to hurt trump and and make political

gains yeah i mean you look at joe biden saying it was xenophobic to to close the borders and it's like every country on the planet did this dude what are you talking about yeah but what i see from this is basically what i've said about China. We know they're lying. We know they're doing, they're engaging in disinformation campaigns. It's getting people killed and they're doing it for political gain. They're sending bunk equipment to, you know, Italy and Spain, the Netherlands. I mean, China's claiming that those weren't like, I want to say FDA approved, but I don't know what their improvement thing is, but it's a company that isn't approved by the government. So supposedly the government's issued stuff is okay. Do you know how piracy worked back in the day, back in the colonial era?

I'm not sure. I don't know. Let's say you're France. You've got a bunch of boats full of spices. Delicious, delicious spices sure when all of a sudden another ship comes up privateer with you know black black sails or whatever whatever they did and they start firing on you and you fight but you win and so you board the privateer and it turns out all the dudes english and you're like these english mfers man yeah so when you go to england they go oh it's a privateer oh Oh, it's, it's, they're criminals. We don't, we, oh, we have nothing to do with this. Yeah. And then the next day they go to another privateer and say, here's your, here's your mission. Go disrupt the

French supply lines. And if you get caught, we disavow. Yeah. So what we see with China and other countries today is something very similar where you'll see private criminals. Yeah. And private companies and China will be like when we catch these people we'll bring them to justice we are so sorry they sold you faulty equipment right and then they go back home and say good job yeah okay because that's the point that's what's going on i mean maybe it could be that people are exploiting the the crisis and they're and they're you know selling garbage for quick a quick buck you know what i mean like yeah if you could mass produce trash and sell it for you know 10 bucks per trash these people do it and it doesn't seem like uh china cares because they're exploiting foreign interests not national interests you think that's

what's happening here do you think that this is them going all right go spread this information yeah but if you get caught we're just going to be like you're well no no this is coming from like their official oh no you said that it's official that's crazy well that's what they're saying in the iranian government also and the russian government well the government all official people so look the governments are playing it up like no no we're not claiming it like they mentioned china is saying it was from the bat but then china chinese media goes but what if so the media newsflash the media everywhere pretty much lies most of the time. Yeah, but their media is an arm of the communist regime. You know what I mean?

That's true. Dude, in the U.S. So it's much worse. I'd be willing to bet, based on the title of this video, me, like, criticizing these foreign countries, they're going to claim I was pushing the conspiracy. Because that's what our media does. True. Like, they carry water for China, man. They love it. They love they love the communist teat, all the sweet milk that comes along with it. Dude. So Marco Rubio, you know, Marco Rubio's. Yeah. He tweeted something like journalists are gleefully, you know, celebrating or enjoying the damage or whatever, something like that. I don't

want to misquote him, but it was it was, was you know a bunch of journalists were like how dare you no one takes pleasure in any of this so then he posted a bunch of tweets where it was like a bunch of stories pretty much yeah right and like making snarky political jokes about it and stuff yeah so you know what man the media in this country is free and they do this. So, you know what, man? The media in this country is free and they do this. And I think, you know, the bigger question I have about all of this

is at what point are we going to see a crackdown on the First Amendment? Because guess what? We're already seeing a crackdown on, we're already seeing a crackdown on most of the First Amendment. Freedom of religion

and the right to peaceably assemble. Both completely infringed upon right now. Gone. Yeah, that's true. You can't gather in groups of the First Amendment, freedom of religion and the right to peaceably assemble, both completely infringed upon right now. Gone. You can't gather in groups of more than two in some places. How does that make sense? And they're saying you can't go to places of worship and they're actually, you know, they're calling out people who are engaging in worship and it's like the government can't stop you. The argument is, well, quarantine. Is that a good enough argument? That's tough, right? Yeah, it's a tough question.

I don't know how to answer it really because I believe everyone, we're both libertarians. I want everyone to do what they want to do. But then at the same time, I don't want stupid people going out and gathering and spreading it around like that story we read or that we're going to later on. It's a great conundrum, man. Yeah. Right.

So, you know, this whole thing is interesting. And I think we should actually touch a little bit upon, like, the possibility of war before we get into, like, you know, because it's the war. If we enter any kind of war, then you'll see your civil liberties gone, right? Yeah. So. Do you think this is why they started talking about the draft last week? They talk about the draft all the time. Right now in the middle of a pandemic?

Why is that on the docket? And mentioning the women can do other jobs. Yeah, why are they talking about that right now? Yeah. Yep. It's kind of an interesting time. I mean, this international conflict has been brewing for a long time. True. And me and many other journalists who

cover conflict have been kind of, I don't want to say waiting for it, but speculating as to when we would actually see full-scale warfare. Apparently we had World War III with Iraq and Iran already. So this would be, in fact, World War IV. How would

that, is the entire world included in that battle? It's a joke. Okay. You know, like Iran fired Iraq and then, you know, everyone's like that. Sorry, no. Whoever calls it World War III, you're wrong. I've spoken. So, you know, there's been a lot of speculation about Syria,

the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, Gazprom, natural gas in Europe, the conflict we have, and the proxy wars. They've all been going on for decades. It's all part of the same conflict never ended yeah but at a certain point you know a spark hits we were sitting on a powder keg and then the coronavirus happened yeah now maybe it's a bioweapon i don't think so i think it's just these things happen but is it going to be a spark that lights the fuse or is it going to be like an acid that just melts away the barrel so nothing happens? Do you know what I mean?

It's like I feel like it could go either way. I don't know, man. So China's claiming they have 2,500 dead and they're like no new cases and we're like on the downturn and people are uncritically showing their numbers. It was a really funny thing I saw on Twitter where this guy has a graph where he's like, I took all of the data on coronavirus and you can track different countries. And then there was a frequently asked question, why isn't China on this graph? And he said, because their numbers are fake. Yeah. Okay. So we've seen locals saying the crematoriums have been running full speed nonstop in China. And people have been, that was originally a conspiracy theory. The original conspiracy theory was that

people could see satellite images of crematoriums going nuts. Right. And then all the fetching agencies were like, no, no, no, it's not true. It's medical supplies. Now a bunch of mainstream outlets are like, we have some serious questions

about the number of urns being delivered. Because apparently like 5,000 got delivered in like one period or something. I don't know how long a certain period is but they said over the next 12 days we're going to be delivering more earns and people are like so that's what like 45 to 50 000 earns yeah why right 2 000 deaths to 2500 deaths yeah but it's empty everybody gets an empty just in case just in case we're just you know restocking up, like those videos we saw, people are collapsing in the street and it's really, really bad. So here's the bigger question.

You say, could it be like an acid just dissolving the powder keg and it just fizzles away? I don't know, man. If the amount of deaths are seriously that crazy in China, we now have, you know, 17,000 combined in Spain and Italy. It's like 11,000 in Italy. If the numbers really are that high in this short of a time span, then at what point do they become desperate? People are starting, you know, countries are now hoarding food. Yeah. So we're, you know, one of the first things that needs to happen is hard dividing lines. So people know who's, who's, you know, who's fighting who. Yeah, that's a good point. We've talked a lot about like the possibility of a civil war in the US.

And one of the things that makes it less likely is that there's not going to be a clear delineation between factions and so it's really difficult to fight if you go outside and you're like here's a guy okay he's wearing a muse shirt are you on my side yeah i have no idea versus if people are like wearing clear you know patches or or in a certain area and you walk into there and say hey you what are you doing you know you say, hey, you, what are you doing? You're on this territory. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'll suit it up.

So I guess my question is for this opening segment is at what point do we say this is war? Is it going to be like a shot heard around the world moment? Because look, man. Well, what would that be like i i can't picture any sort of warfare where anyone gets out of this you know on top you know of course like china claims if their numbers are wrong which everyone's assuming they're wrong lies yeah they're then they're not in very good shape we're not in very good shape no one's in in very good shape. No one's in very good shape. And if we go to war, that means we would want to supply them with food and whatever to keep. But the supply lines are already kind of getting interrupted.

So in some areas, I'm already hearing that people can't get supplies anymore. Yeah, exactly. So it's interesting because when you're on Twitter, you're like in one place where you can see everyone talking but then you got to realize people are all over the world so i saw one person tweeting about how there's no you know like there's there's like certain certain supplies are completely drained in my area we can't get them anywhere we can't even order them yeah and so like we went to the store the other day to like you know just get get food stuff and

we're like seemed fine oh they had tons normal they had a full pallet of 25-pound bags of flour. Yeah. I didn't know eggs was the one thing that was gone, right? No, they had eggs, but it was less. They had eggs at Sam's, not at Walmart. At Sam's, right. Oh, right. At Walmart, it was less.

Walmart was missing a ton of stuff. Right. That makes sense, though, because Sam's is like... Not that much, though. Right. As I expected to see. Yeah, they had milk and everything. Eggs were gone.

That was it. Yeah. So, which are perishable, which, well, I guess you could keep them. There is ways. There were some things. But for the most part, it was like, it seemed like there was a little bit less of most things, but most things were there. Yeah.

But in some areas, they are getting hit. So, anyway, I guess, I don't know, man. I think if china gets strained and they and that you know the factories are shut down and they can't produce food if we can over produce food then i don't think we have anything anything really to worry about i don't think anyone's gonna gonna want to fight yeah you know they're gonna try and secure their their own circumstances their own situations but if if if somebody died in the US because of disinformation, and they did, what do we say to their family? So we have what? I think around 2,000,

just over 2,000 people have died so far in the US. Now, some people want to blame Trump. I don't think that's fair. I think to a certain point, you can criticize the president. You can criticize Bill de Blasio a lot more because New York is the hardest hit. New York City is the hardest hit place. And Cuomo gets some of that criticism. But come on, the fault is really on China for lying to us. Yeah. If they came out right away and said, look, preliminary data shows human to human transmission, it could be a false alarm.

But seriously, get ready for this. Everybody locked down. Let's do this. Yep. Yeah, they're trying to save face. But they're exploiting it. No, they're exploiting it. How so?

Well, for one, they immediately started having their employees in other countries siphon away emergency medical gear and send it to China. And so they did it in a legal way. They did it through the free market, which leads to a serious conundrum I see on the internet where they're like, all they did was buy up as much as they could through free market practice. Yeah. And my response is by lying to us, lying to the World Health Organization so that no one understood how bad it was. And then a lot of people were like, oh, that's really cool that we're helping China with their medical gear

because they're facing a shortage. And now that we've got 120,000 or so people in the US, we're like, we need medical gear. And that to me is why it's so annoying when people are like, Trump has fumbled this across the board. And it's why that that's what that's to me is why it's so annoying when people are like trump has fumbled this across the board and it's like look man well people feel better when they blame when they have someone to blame blame china come on good point yeah but the media is too busy carrying water for them saying it's racist if you if you blame china yeah yeah the communist party

of china is not a race it is an authoritarian organization of some sort yeah that's a good point yeah so so so anyway here's here's here's the main point we can move on to another subject but i'm just to the people who have whose families have lost their lives you know who have lost loved one loved ones if they want answers you know are they going to ignore this or do we need to tell them like china lied and the people you cared about died and is there anything that's going to come from it? And if we do want something to come from it, what if China says, F you? Do we just say, okay, that's cool.

We're not going to do anything. You're good. Or does somebody say, nah. And then, you know, I think really in order for war to break out, you need some kind of hard desperation or ideological zealotry. Right. China would have to be like, we are seizing the south china sea period full-on military blockade we will shoot down any plane any ship that comes into that space and then

if the u.s says we're going to you know fly in international waters and then you know because china already lasered a plane a couple you know last month or whatever so we've been dangerously close i don't want to act like i think it's guaranteed, but I've had people who cover this stuff and who have worked in military stuff being like, dude, it's getting worse than it's ever been, especially with the pandemic, with the loss of food stores hoarding. And then you have these media companies, or I shouldn't say companies, but state-run propaganda, trying to convince their populations, we did this to them. Yeah, there's this article I read about the escalation of the blame game between China and America, basically.

Because once Trump went on and said the Chinese virus, it was kind of like pointing a big finger at china and saying you're to blame and it's not necessarily the chinese citizens you know it is the ccp who was like we're not saying anything to anybody you know and that's why ccp virus is better right exactly that makes a lot more sense but then now they're doing this because it's what how are you going to go further up from it's not our fault and like we're it's not the Chinese virus? Well, you're the one who put it there then. Yeah, but let's push that campaign. A bioweapon claim is so much like more egregious.

Absolutely. I agree. It's look, if we've got a bunch of random people on the Internet claiming that it was a Chinese bioweapon, like, come on. Of course, it's like people are going to go on the internet and say whatever they want. Yeah. If state-run media organizations or state-sanctioned or controlled media organizations are telling their citizens the United States engineered a bioweapon to go after them. Yeah. They're going to take – they're going to be like – they're going to be rallied, right? Yeah. So this is what people – you know what a false flag is?

Mm-hmm. So this is what people basically – it's kind of like a false flag. Convince your people that you're under attack you know a false flag would be they attack themselves and blame it on someone else using flying the a false flag right but but it's similar in that they need to get all of their people on board with full-on conflict with us not that some of these countries actually need that but russia kind of does because the russian people and the american people for the most part don't they absolutely do not hate each other.

You know what? This almost feels like remember we were talking about those videos that were emerging. We weren't we weren't able to show them to you guys because we can't really confirm them. But we were seeing China seeing videos out of China of almost like civil war, like people were fighting and like being locked away and like, oh, yeah, joining their own police force and fighting other. Well, that video is public. Everyone's seen it. That's that's important. Yeah. So on there, flipping a police vehicle. I mean, this almost seems like they're trying to convince their own citizens.

And it has almost nothing to do with us. I mean, obviously, it does because we're the main target here. But it's like if people are actually rising up against the CCP in China, we won't know. We're not going to know anything about that. But that's actually happened, which it looks like that could be happening. We won't ever know about it until years from now. Finally, the CCP will get overthrown and people will be like, oh yeah, remember back when the coronavirus hit? Yeah, we started at that point. We had a civil war.

How does China stop that from happening? It was America. Don't worry it wasn't us it was america they did it and it's like and we're here to protect you right you must trust us yeah the americans are doing that's what it sounds like to me yeah it's like they're really because it's it's stupid like it's i think it was a chinese doctor that that confirmed that no no that not that blew the whistle but confirmed that it was an animal like natural in nature and then like we confirmed it and like a bunch of doctors around the globe were like yeah it's a natural thing it's not like it was a bioweapon which now they're pushing you know so

it's kind of convenient in the time where i saw those last week where people were fighting yeah i don't know and here and you know we can we can kind of wrap up on this point because i think you kind of nailed it but yeah when the people of china flip over a police you know vehicle these are people who get arrested and tortured for saying naughty words yeah for saying i think i think you're stupid policemen yep and then they get beaten till they say sorry right say say sorry 20 times and they're and they're sitting there like clearly all messed up i mean dude took the riot shield and was beating the other cop with it yeah man you know so they need to get a handle on things it's no surprise they do this stuff well the uk is furious about it but uh we do have we do have another story so uh the next one we're gonna bring it back home i will say it is so

unfortunate that quite literally the only news is coronavirus yeah but i'm not kidding i went to buzzfeed and i'm like buzzfeed surely has somethingeed and I'm like, BuzzFeed surely has something. And I'm like, dude, when BuzzFeed has nothing else to talk about, like, man, of all the outlets. You know it's bad. Yeah, it's just coronavirus. But there's a few stories and this kind of, there's a pastor got arrested because he's ignoring the, like, the quarantines and lockdowns. Another pastor died and he was posting on facebook things like he thought it was a hoax or that the numbers didn't

add up and stuff like that and then in spain something i was talking about earlier thousands of feminists ignored warnings and went out and marched on march 8th and now spain is like the third worst country and they actually said that masculinity kills more people than the coronavirus. Yeah. So what I kind of want to talk about in that one is like the ideological, like the ideological ignorance, essentially, of people who are refusing to accept it because their ideology is, you know, their tribalism, but also civil liberties. They have a right to protest, right?

I guess. Even in the midst of this so let's let's do this let's jump over to super chats and then that'll be the next segment we do yeah so for everybody that is in the super chat thank you all so much um indeed thank you we will try our best to get to everybody but sometimes we can't just uh you know put it in there and we'll do our best but also hit the like button if you haven't already and subscribe let's read what people have to say follow us yes our names are there kyle buchanan says if you haven't already and subscribe. Let's read what people have to say. Follow us. Yes. Our names are there.

Kyle Buchanan says, if you look back at world history after a major problem with the nation, they go to war. So do you think this one will be any different? There are a lot of factors involved in whether or not a war breaks out. But I think there has to be a hard reason for someone to go into someone else's territory. Yeah. Typically, it's resources. So if China starts freaking out like we need food we need something then yeah they south china sea we're gonna suspend all that it is the perfect like brewing pot dude yep you're right we'll

see what happens man we'll see so i'm i'm i don't know man i don't want to say i'm bullish on it but i am worried maddie bone says it's not a conspiracy theory about it being a bioweapon just that it's chinese and they accidentally released it. Wasn't this tweeted years back? So what was tweeted years back was that there was a news story published in, I can't remember what the source was. It's a legit source saying that Wuhan had a biolab and there was an international concern because they didn't think the Chinese could handle a level four biolab. They thought there would be a breach at some point. And that was two years ago. So when it happened, everybody was like, we think they were engineering viruses and it escaped. Not that it was supposed to be a weapon

or anything. None of that is confirmed. I'll tell you what is true. There is a biolab. It was reported on by legit sources. After that, nothing else. It seems based on South China University, and look, I got to be honest, I don't trust them for the most part but this is stuff that makes them look bad and counters their official narrative it seems like there was someone working in the chinese version of the cdc that got contaminated by a bat that's that seems to be at least the best guess we have now yeah it's plausible yeah because china's trying to have the narrative be like it's nothing to do with us and they're saying the u.s did it and then some researchers come out and say actually we think it was our lab i'm like or the dirty wet markets that they have that suddenly china decided to ban all right animal consumption

it's like what now you're gonna do it now you're gonna ban and they were wild and they were and the media was claiming it was a conspiracy theory that people were eating bat soup and stuff and now it's like now now they you know what man the media in our country is garbage they are so far behind what's going on it is mind-numbing and like you know for me it's like navigating a piece of swiss cheese it's like there's holes everywhere and i'm trying to find the pieces that are legit and piecing putting them all together and make a slice of solid cheddar. Solid cheddar. Well, solid Swiss. All right, let's read some more.

Chase, thanks for becoming a member. Joseph says, do you think we're headed towards World War III? What do you guys think? I don't think so. But I'm more optimistic than you. Yeah? Yeah, I'm pretty pessimistic. Yeah.

What do you think? I think so. If we have food shortages, people are going to fight each other. That's a civil war. And if the economies don't get back on track, Sicily could just be the beginning. But yeah, I guess the difference would be, is it going to be a world war with countries fighting countries or just everybody, humans fighting humans on the world? We've got the BRICS nations and NATO. We've got big factions. But it is tough.

I mean, Trump has been trying to repair relations with Russia. If that's what you believe, it seems like it's possible because Hillary was very much adversarial. We still are very adversarial with Russia. The media doesn't give Trump credit for the pushback he's given to Putin and stuff. But if it's true that Trump

is trying to ease relations with Russia, if there's a world war and it's U.S. and Europe versus, like, Russia and China, that's going to be devastating. It's not – there's not going to be a clear path. I mean, America's got technological superiority. Yeah, but – You know what, though? I'm willing to bet America's got weapons we can't even think of. I wouldn't be surprised. You're right.

Like, crazy stuff's going to happen. All of a sudden, they're going to deploy, like, XO suits, like Iron Man, crazy, like, jet packs, and, like, you're going to see a whole bunch of... You know the city shield over Asgard that they turn on in Thor?

It's like, we, like, look outside. No, no, Wakanda. And Wakanda. Asgard didn't have the shield, did they? Yeah, in... They didn't? Oh, that's right, that's right. The second one.

Dark World, right. Yeah, so... Or Wakanda, same thing, you know? It's like, we walk outside and we, like, look up and there's, like, this blue halo thing and we're like, what's right. That's right. The second one. Right. So, or Wakanda. Same thing, you know? It's like we walk outside and we like look up and there's like this blue halo thing. We're like, what's that? And we see like missiles hitting it. We're like, whoa, I guess we're safe.

Iron Dome. Iron Dome. Yeah. Well, the Iron Dome in Israel is like they target the missiles and then blow them out of the sky. That's so amazing. Don't we? I'm pretty sure we have a whole network of that kind of stuff too.

We have a uh what is it called sdi the strategic defense initiative it's like an old program i don't know where we're at now but we were trying to figure out how to counteract a nuclear strike by intercepting missiles and so in israel for instance they have uh the iron dome defense system okay so when rockets come in from gaza they have you know surface to air missiles that pinpoint it and go boom and blow them out of the sky that's that's scary stuff man because i've never seen it myself i've been israel but it didn't happen when i was there but you'll be out at a cafe and all of a sudden boom explosions in the sky yeah that's scary and then in south korea they have something

i can't remember what it's called i don't know if it's called like tarp or something i don't know but it's uh similar because did that happen to you when you were in Israel? Did you actually hear an explosion? No, no, no, no, no. Oh, good. No, no, no. I went and got falafel and had a good time and just chilled out. Yeah, right.

But I know people who were there when they were like, what the – you know, like, oh, my God. And they'd like run and hide and take shelter and the sirens are going off. Yeah, so we wouldn't be sitting here going like, oh, look, a missile. We'd be like, oh, dude. And like we'd run and hide, man. Like missiles blowing up in the air, dude, not something you something you want to experience all right let's grab some more of these super chats uh corto says i know you're no fan of authoritarians but how does it make you feel that a particularly authoritarian leaning person me is a big fan of yours i don't know i

don't care uh i have no appreciative yeah like like i was saying this as you know i disagree you know i disagree is that it what are we gonna do everyone's right to disagree two authoritarians would would would like have a conflict a libertarian's gonna be like hey man like i'm gonna go do my thing you know leave me out of it yeah but uh i think i should clarify too it's a little l libertarian not like big l american libertarian because i'm i'm I'm pretty lefty libertarian. And I would probably actually say, well, I have very libertarian ideals. I'm a liberal in that I do believe in authority. So the easiest way to put it is on a scale of like one to 10, if you

actually look at the authoritarian libertarian spectrum, if five is the middle, six is towards authoritarian, four is towards libertarian, i'm like a 3.5 or a four meaning i thought you were lower than that uh because i was higher than you right on that chart someone actually tweeted at me like you guys should do the the political chart and we actually have so that's what he's talking about right now and i'm a little higher than you and i think a little to the left i'm not sure but it's idealistic it's like my perfect world when they ask me these questions yeah yeah in the end i'm like you need to have some kind of authority but i don't like the idea of authoritarianism at all yeah all right let's grab some more ceylon says is lydia waifu hold on it's complicated good to see some of you back

oh yeah because you can't see each other have a camera yeah talbot link says youtube pulling some serious s had to exit the mobile app go to the channel in browser then access history and app to see the stream or announcement whoa really what well thanks for fighting to see us i appreciate you oh here we go min mac says cnn be like tim pool far-right conspiracy theorist and zeppelin architect spills gumbo on his shirt soy jesus watches in anguish you know that my wikipedia said i built a zeppelin for like years wait what cool though my wikipedia claims that i built a zeppelin for years what interesting craziest thing why haven't you told me this tim you didn't know this i didn't

know i know why didn't you tell me oh yeah and i tried uh uh when i when i tried being like like can i get someone to fix this? They were like, you're not a good source. And I'm like, I never built a Zeppelin. Who would know? Someone wrote it. You're not a good source. You're not.

That's how Wikipedia works. They need other people? Well, I'll hit them up. I feel like you would have included me in this project. Wikipedia is insane. Yeah. Like, you've got to do something if I came out

and said I personally believe in free speech and then someone at Huffington Post says Tim Pool does not like free speech they would ignore what I said even though I espoused my belief literally I could show someone a picture of my ballot saying I voted for Barack Obama then Huffington Post can write

but he didn't actually. He voted for Trump. And then Wikipedia would say, nope, Tim Pool is not a good source. Do not trust the information from him. Oh, my gosh. It's like, why would I trust the random guy who doesn't know anything about me? Well, you heard it here. Things on the internet are not always true. Well.

If you didn't know that already. I've complained a lot about this. I even talked to some Wikimedia people. Wikimedia? Yeah, Wikimedia is the bigger foundation. Never heard that term. Oh, okay. It's the bigger nonprofit organization. Oh, all right. And I was like, you have, there's a institutional media bias that exists, which defends fake news from predominantly like left-wing sources in that if the Washington Post

is considered to be a good source, therefore, if someone else writes something in the Washington Post that's fake, the Washington Post must be telling the truth, proving it's fake. So it's like a default assumption that longstanding newspapers are correct. That's so circular, though. Exactly. It's like, we know it's true because the New York Times said it's true. And we know the New York Times is true because the New York Times said it's true. And then so like the New York Times will say like apples are yellow. And then all these other sites will say apples are yellow. And then Wikipedia will say apples are yellow.

And then if you actually pick up an apple and say I'm an apple farmer. No, you're not a good source. We got to go to the media for this one. And that perpetuates the insanity of Tim Pool apparently built a Zeppelin. I kid you not. Yep, they think I did. Well, they finally got it removed because people were like, what is this? It was the Guardian or something.

I'm going to get you a little model Zeppelin for Christmas. Yeah, I think I need that. You know what it was, though? I actually know where this came from. Just a little one that we can have like right here instead of the toilet paper. But I know where this came from. I was talking with a buddy about how to make a drone that could be deployed from a rooftop remotely anywhere in the world. Okay.

So let's say like you're in New York and you have an office in Cairo. You could have a Zeppelin on top of the reason Zeppelin, you want to do Zeppelin because of the flight time. You could have it attached to the building charging, and then you could be in New York and you could press a button and it would launch. There would be a latency issue, but you could literally fly it around the city and then press a button and use GPS to send it back. That was the extent to which I have ever talked about a Zeppelin, but apparently some journalists like saw it he's secretly building them and then gave a telephone with other journalists and they were like tim pool comma who once built a zeppelin comma and then boom when you were doing the like basically starting live streaming yeah like back in 2011

yeah yeah we we did the first ever live broadcast via drone right or live Or live news broadcast via drone, because drones do broadcast. But we streamed it to the web. We did a series of tests. And then I went to an immigration protest. And we were filming live via drone of this protest. And I don't know if they've like, I think they may have done it. I think CNN may have done it. Okay.

But I don't think for the most part they've done live broadcasts from the drone. So we actually hacked it. We hacked the video feed from the drone using the software development kit. So basically what it is, you can see all the telemetry data and the code going in, controlling it, and then you get a window of it. And instead of actually programming it, we screen grabbed it and pushed it out to Ustream. And so what most of these companies do or did, they don't really do the drone stuff anymore. They just recorded it and then uploaded the raw footage later so we i don't know how many people have actually done live broadcasts well i mean as far as the media goes they probably don't want to do

much live stuff because they can't control it and they like to be in control i'm sure well they do live stuff but it's like they've given up on actually covering the news all they want to do now is sit as a sit at a table and complain about Trump. That's where they make their money, you know? Yeah, let's grab some more. All right, we're going to start speeding up, though. Bob Gett says, so have you gotten New York Collapse yet? I still highly recommend that book. It seems quite relevant right now.

Yeah, sounds interesting. I haven't gotten it yet. We'll check it out. The Orange Ninja Turtle. What turns your run-of-the-mill conspiracy theorist that doesn't believe the official story of 9-11 or who killed JFK into an anti-Semite for not believing the official Holocaust story. I don't know. Dark Rengie says, Tim, buddy, thanks for keeping it real and working so hard. I respect you. Also, it's pronounced Rengie. Oh, there you go. Dark Rengie. David says, thoughts on 2A violation

closed LA gun stores. Messed up. Los Angeles shut them down. Really? Yeah. And I, Trump ordered them essential. Like, look, man, I don't care Yeah. And Trump ordered them essential. Like, look, man, I don't care. So federally, they're essential. But I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know if they're reopening or whatever. But like, dude, the government swoops in. Here comes the authoritarian.

We're going to get to the authoritarian stuff in a second, too. So let's speed up. Unknown Millennial says, what's up with that story about Vladimir Zelenko in New York curing 350? Was that fake news? I see it on the Daily Beast. Thoughts? I don't know.

I don't know either. Epith Movie says, Tim, try eating your gumbo instead of wearing it. Absolutely. I have no idea what anyone's talking about. I don't know where that came from. I love this gumbo thing. I don't know. I would love to make gumbo.

I've actually never made gumbo. I think I made pizza. I actually really like it a lot. What is it? That diner makes, it's like beans and pasta. Oh. I'm pretty sure. Or maybe not beans. It's like a lot. What is it? That diner makes, it's like beans and pasta. Oh. I'm pretty sure. Or maybe not beans.

It's like wild rice. It's like a soup. Yeah, okra and broth. That has, yeah, maybe rice as well. Yeah, yeah. Austin says, Tim Pool nightly show on Subverse News Network when? Probably never. I don't think so.

No, we do this show here. We're doing this show. This is our show. He does enough shows. Please don't give him any ideas. Three and a half hours every day. Oh my gosh. Red Beard says, three hours and 40 minutes, mind you.

Redbeard says, company I work for is defying NC's executive order 121 and staying open. We make furniture. Whoa. Furniture is not essential. Matthew Hammond says, Cassandra Fairbanks article call with Kennedy Center. I saw a little bit of this. Jack Posobiec, I think. I don't know if it was Cassandra, but apparently a whistleblower recorded a phone call with

the Kennedy Center. They received like $25 million from the stimulus and people are... And then didn't they like lay off a bunch of people? Yeah, yeah. Right afterwards? Money in the pocket. Line your pockets with gold. Marcin says,

Haha, you need to watch the World Health Organization answering questions on Taiwan. Yeah, we talked about it. It's crazy. All right, I'm going to start speeding things up. Mac3N says, nursing homes are getting hit with COVID. I live in Morgantown, West Virginia. Sundale is a local one that was hit hard. Residents and employees are both affected. Them and their families are being harassed. Wow. Student of History says, China's reckoning is imminent. They caused all of this by downplaying this, taking medical supplies and shipping faulty medical supplies. They're going to make a lot of

people angry and the CCP deserves it. Yep. Matthew, thanks for joining. Thanks. Ryan Walker says, do you think there will be a legit push back to China moving forward or back to our old ways? We'll certainly push Trump's message out into reality. There's no way we're going back the way we were. No way. We're going to be building everything ourselves now. Trump's approval is going way up. And I think there's a lot of people who are begrudgingly accepting it, but there's also a lot of people who are waking up to how much the media lies. And they're also

realizing how vulnerable we are and how scary it is. That's, I think, the biggest factor out of all of it. Brent Hutchinson says, Hey Adam, once you finish Doom Eternal, check out Shadow Warrior 1 and 2. They're great games in a similar vein as Doom. Should also scratch the same itch for anyone who can't afford retail-priced games.

All right, Shadow Warrior. I'll check it out. All right, I'm going to speed up a little bit. Brett Marino, thanks for coming to member. Yeah, thanks. Let's see. Annoyed Moderate says, Tim, can you please say China in your best Trump voice? I can't do a particularly good Trump voice, I think.

China. China. China. China. China. You best Trump voice. I can't do a particularly good Trump voice, I think. China. China. China. China. China. You're going downhill. The first one was the best. No, it was not good.

I can't do... Trump is really hard to do impressions of, I got to be honest. He's challenging. Like, there's a lot of people I'm really good. I'm like, I can just get it. Trump is... You do better Trump than I do. I don't know. I've never actually tried, but I don't want to try.

It'd be horrendous. Joseph Metzler says, China sending out bad products is nothing new. There is a U.S. website for recalls. China is almost all of them. Their chemical farms, drums, and PPE cause injuries every year. My experience is a hazmat worker. I mean, we actually have a meme in this country,

going back to when I was a kid, where stuff would be, say, like made in China, and it would break. Yeah. Like, that's like, it was a joke, you know? Yeah. Well known. All right. Let's see. Lotus and Meyer, thanks for becoming a member. Thank you. Bone says China nationalized some of US companies to give them medical PPE first, yet not a peep from the mainstream media. We only won World War II because our factories were unharmed. This will lose World War III. Whoa, scary. Tyler says China, Russia, and Iran could be prepping their own populaces for war by spreading

claims that we released a bioweapon on them. Exactly. That's what we are saying. Yeah, man. Indist says from Sydney, Australia, restrictions passed last night with immediate effect. Two-person gathering limits. Whoa, in Sydney, two-person gathering limits and no non-essential travel with $11,000 fine and six months in jail for noncompliance. What if the reason they're giving such heavy-handed quarantines and stuff is more so because they're concerned about war?

They want everyone locked down. They want to know where everyone is. Because this is like, I mean, these are draconian measures we're seeing starting to be implemented especially for yeah liberal democracies like us and no liberal democracy doesn't mean left it means like freedom and of liberty right but i i did a video once about like how america is a liberal democracy and i had a bunch of people hitting me up being like we are not a liberal country we are a conservative constitutionalist and i'm like that's not what it means come on all right let's read more. Matt says,

y'all probably consider me a conspiracy nut at this point, but I really do get a strong gut feeling that the disinfo we're seeing from China is just the prologue to actual war. World on the brain. That's not a conspiracy theory. That's not a conspiracy theory at all. Like a lot of people are, I'm talking to journalists. I'm talking to people who work in Intel and they're saying like, what are the, what are the chances of this? Because we've been worried about it for a long time. Like I'm telling you, man, when I was working for the ABC News Univision company, there were journalists there talking about China invading and like doing these things in other countries. We've known. Gregory says, hey guys, just got my DD214 on the 26th. I joined the Washington National Guard to help out against

coronavirus. Thank you. We'll never turn on Americans. Awesome. Appreciate it. Yeah. Appreciate you. Petro says cheaters are the first to accuse someone of cheating. This virus is already showing signs of being a bioweapon and they're trying to get ahead of the curve. Maybe there's been some speculation, but I don't think we've confirmed anything, but I will say this. There's no point in speculating or saying it is because they will use that against us. What we need to do is talk about the effects, our solution to it, and where it originated. The facts are on our side. It started in China and they lied. If we start playing this game where we're like, we know it's... They're still lying.

They're still lying too. And it's costing lives. If we play the game where we start accusing them of a bioweapon, that's when it discredits you because you need hard evidence for that. We don't need to. Yeah, when I was talking earlier about the back and forth, it's like, we got to just stop the back and forth and not keep escalating it back and forth. Then it becomes a war. It's not that look, if you go to a regular person and say, I bet it was a bioweapon, they're going to say, I don't know about that. If you say it started there, they lied to us and they're still lying to us. And now our people are dying. They're going to be like, whoa, like, yeah, I know. That's clearly provable.

Yeah. So that's where we should go. If we get evidence, it was. That's fine. There's, you know, look, even the official best case scenario that would prove China's lying is that they just had a breach from a lab. That would be, you know, and not a bioweapon. Like some guy was doing research and then they're bad at what they do.

Or the wet markets are just gross places that are just Petri dishes waiting to explode. Oh, totally, man. And someone. Gutter oil. Someone eats a rat that, or a bat or something that had it in it. And what's the other one? Hanta virus or something? Yeah, but that's.

From eating rats or something? It's been around for a while. Well, yeah, but I just mean like when you eat nasty stuff. So. Yeah, man. for a while well yeah but i just mean like when you eat nasty stuff so yeah man and the fact that they just they finally implemented that the banning of of eating wild animals it's just like the timing is crazy like well they have to it's it's to save face for sure are they saving face because it's like you think that they would yeah it's all about saving face that's why they're

lying yeah you're right totally swampy says nostradamus said the world as we knew it would end in 2012. It wasn't Armageddon. But think about it. Society in the world has changed drastically since 2012. Maybe he wasn't wrong. Was it Nostradamus? It was the Mayans calendar who ended in 2012. I don't know about Nostradamus.

Well, that's just the great year resetting. Right. It has nothing to do with the end of the world. It's like someone saying the world ends December 31st because the calendar ends. It's like, no, January 1st is next. Yeah, the year ends december 31st because the calendar ends it's like no january 1st is next yeah the year ends right right shun ray uh rayon rayu ng matau matoi sorry man while it may be a conspiracy theory that china plotted this from the start at the cost of their constituents in silencing hong kong the trade war and claiming how good they are by the insane left you may know

thanks for becoming a member brian says murphy enacted executive order closing gun shops and nics background checks a week ago today he reversed half of it opening gun stores still leaving the nics system down you need it to purchase a gun clear violation of two way murphy that's that's that's new jersey isn't it that's where we are i don't know i mean dude it's it's so hard to get a gun in new jersey you have have to write an essay. I mean, I could write an essay. I kind of want to. Come on. Why do I have to write an essay to you?

You know what I mean? I don't mean you. I mean like the government. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to write anything to you. You have to justify why you need it. What? Get out of here.

I don't need to justify anything. You know what I'll do? I'll write the Constitution. That's what I'll write. What's the reason? Well, it's my right. Okay. Good enough reason.

Second Amendment. Submit. It's like getting your weed card in California. Well, I just, I'm stressed at life. All right. There you go. Because. Because.

Period. All right. There you go. Yeah. All right. Brian M. says, China is an economic built society. A combat war would never work against them. Just too many numbers on both sides.

Financial stress is the only and best way to beat them and get their attention. Trump is doing it pretty well so far. Well, I think that's kind of why we're bringing it to the brink. Because he is, I mean, this whole thing is like a microscope on the fact that we don't do anything for ourselves. And I bet every American out there is like, we need to do it ourselves and bring it back to America. It's like China's probably like, uh-oh, that's where all our income comes from. You know what's really funny? I'm sure you will find like, okay, so Donald Trump comes out and says hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine shows we're seeing studies with promising results.

Yeah. And he's literally touting some preliminary research that is promising that could cure this disease. Right. And the media comes out against him. There was a joke that Trump could cure cancer and they would find some way to make it negative. And now Trump literally comes out and said, like, there were studies. Yeah. Numerous countries were like, these things may work.

I saw the charts. It does show that it drops off everything within like three days. It's fair to say it's preliminary. Yeah. But for the media to come out and be like, how dare Trump? He's not a doctor. Well, they had the perfect story because that couple-

Guy who ate fish cleaner? Yeah, drank it. But Trump literally said at the press conference, I had to watch it twice today to make sure I had my facts straight. And he was like, we're hoping to make it available by prescription. The FDA will be moving as quickly as possible to make it almost immediately available. And then he talked about how these treatments have been approved before for other things. So we know that you won't die if you take them.

So we're hoping we can go quickly. The media writes all this fake news attacking him. That's how insane it is. But it has been a prescription that you can get. I think it, what is it? Not schizophrenia. Lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and other autoimmune disorders. But it has been a prescription that you can get. Right. I think it, what is it? Not schizophrenia. What kind of? Lupus, rheumatoid arthritis.

Yeah, right. And other autoimmune disorders. But the FDA has now approved it. Boom. And now what are they going to do? It's like, you know what, man? It's just, yeah. Student of History says, where is the hard line with China in your opinion?

I also saw an old video of you with Vice. And all I have to say is Vice is dead. Long live the beanie. CCP virus. The hard line for me. I don't know what the hard line is, man. an old video of you with vice and all i have to say is vice is dead long live the beanie ccp virus the hard line for me i don't know what the hard line is man because i'm a very like anti-war kind of person but china's got a camp full of a million people where they steal their organs yeah that's nuts you know what's funny is uh these these activists on the left talk about there's a saying if you ever ever wondered what you'd be doing in World War II Germany, you're doing it right now.

Every day, Donald Trump. That's what they say. Seriously? They actually, because like Trump is caging children. It's like, oh, please. Obama was. Obama was the deporter in chief. Like, you're not going to play that argument with me, dude. I'm not interested. Like, I'll be critical of it for sure. But I don't believe you actually care. Yeah. But now people are saying back to them, if you ever wondered what you'd be doing in World War II Germany, you're doing it right now because China has a million plus people in a concentration camp where they harvest organs and you are doing nothing and saying nothing. Yep. Exactly. So these people want to act all high and mighty. And look, I'll be honest.

I don't know what I can do. I complained about it a lot. We're in America, so we have a constitution. But yeah. Yep. All right. Let's see. Where are we at at we said a big

super chat jump because youtube loves to yeah youtube loves to do this so it makes it really hard i appreciate everybody thanks for coming out i know we weren't uh we weren't here friday but oh man we've got good to be back super chats for those wondering the toilet paper is sitting here we explained it when we first got here someone sent us a nice care package of a bunch of different food items and a nice four-pack. And we just had to put it here to brag. It's basically like, we know you ain't got any toilet paper. We got toilet paper.

Oh, you're so jealous. And also to say, if you want it, you got to pay. No, I'm just kidding. It's just funny. Someone sent it to us. We appreciate it. All right, here we go. GS says, China buying supplies is insider trading.

Yeah. Oh, that's true. Augustine Uribe says, I hope it will not come to war, but as a soldier who has trained with forces all over the globe and observed the capabilities of our opposing countries, I know we can win. It will be a terrible cost, but we would prevail. Yes, I hope so. Shire says, as I've said before, China owns 1.1 trillion in US bonds.

We can cancel those bonds and recover some of our tax dollars. Also, the truth will only come out if the CCP falls. Oh, you know it. Yeah, exactly. John Monk says, New York Times reported leaked Pentagon plan three days ago to launch major military campaign against Iranian militias in Iraq. COVID-19 be darned. My wife is deployed.

Hope Trump says no to this insanity. I hope so, too too never heard of that but david thanks for the super chat nope nope says wars are hard to justify when dealing with nuclear powers there is a reason there was never a direct conflict between the u.s and ussr could face cyber trade and proxy wars in china to hurt them jay thanks for coming to member thank you kyle says i keep seeing articles of people dying from complications due to coronavirus. What exactly does this mean? Do you want to explain that? Yeah, I don't know about it.

So I'd assume that complications related to coronavirus would be pretty much all of the ways that you could die of coronavirus in a hospital. Like suffocating? Like the fact that you can't breathe. Right, okay. That's just basically how they say you died of coronavirus. Yeah. Okay. Sean says, EU civil war more likely than anything else.

When Spain and Italy decide to no longer pay the dues and Germany and France and an army to force them to, the rest of the EU nations pick sides. I agree. Yeah.

Didn't even think about that. Yep. Harry Batensky says, thanks for the great stories. Stay safe and ration the toilet paper. Oh, we will. We will. We're going to divvy it up

after the show. Everybody gets one play. Not looking forward to when the Chinese run out of food. Supposed supposedly a swarm of locusts heading to china fake news and yes asgard had a shield oh it's heading yeah it was in egypt and it's making its way through the middle east yeah worst timing ever too man plague man this is yeah terrifying hikage says keep up the good work man what you do is important appreciate it kaj says soy jesus world war three inevitable. War brought our economy back from the Great Depression. And if,

and if you, our economy tanks because of Chinese plague, war will bring our economy back again. China started this. Bruh says, bought some toilet paper today only because it looked like it was out of stock. Always look, don't assume, love your content. P.S. Caps isn't yelling. Appreciate it. Any what does it say? OK, well, and he says, take a look at Dr. Warren Farrell. He has talked about the boy crisis and how fatherless homes have negative effects on the development of children growing up and how culture worsens some problems. I am familiar. Yeah, we'll check him out. Benito says, what's up, Beanie Bros and Lydia of Whiterun? Oh, yeah. Thank you. XI says, USAF has wild weasel squadrons in South Korea and Japan. WW pilots wait for missiles to be fired, then fire their own missiles at the enemy ground radar and then evade the enemy.

Whoa. Wild weasel pilots. Gnarly. Boss. Jean McLeod says, a YouTuber, Mr. Reagan, has a friend that says Italy is fudging their death numbers. The friend had a grandma die of cancer, but the doctor wrote down death as CCP virus. Do you have friends in Italy that can confirm this?

No, but I have heard the exact same rumor from several different people, and I don't believe it's real. Yeah. I don't know who Mr. Reagan's sources or anything like that, so there's nothing on him. But outside of anything he does, because I'm not trying to impugn the honor or credibility. I have had people say to me, like, dude, my friend's grandma died of cancer and they claimed it was this. And I'm like, that's funny, because like seven people have also the same thing to me.

My friend's grandma, my friends. It's very much like the text messages that were going around where it was like, my friend works for the military. And they said, Trump's going to do this. Everybody got the text. Everybody was sending it. And they all were claiming it was their friend in the military doing it. Right. So look, before his video came out, I already had three people tell me that their friend or family member or, you know, friend of a friend in Italy died of

something, you know, died of cancer. And then they recorded it as something else. So it could be a sign that they're actually doing it because it's happening a lot or it could be kind of strange that people keep saying my friend's grandma died my friend's grandma died my friend's grandma died and i'm like you know at the third or fourth time i hear about someone's friend's grandma dying i'm kind of like did someone just claim that's what happened and you're acting like it's your friend yeah when it's actually just you repeating someone else's you know i'm pretty sure they can tell if it's a death by coronavirus well it's not just that it's like if someone has a pre-existing condition like cancer and the coronavirus kills them wouldn't they say it was a complication due to the coronavirus a death with a pre-existing condition yeah that makes sense what is it possible the person was

immunocompromised because of the cancer right so yeah yeah you know whatever good point mr paul says the enigmatic disconnected voice lydia is correct gumbo is with okra soy jesus jesus won't like the next chicken and sausage with rice lydia needs camera we're getting we're getting there we actually have the camera we just need to actually start you know building stuff and getting ready so ikea dargan says chinese chinesium is what we we have call it forever, for crap from China and just Google gumbo, pick New Orleans or other Southern. Will do. Paxton Fairbank says, If this breaks out into war with China, then I will never be convinced General MacArthur was wrong when he wanted to continue through NK to Beijing. Yikes. All right, did we just have a big jump again? Where are we at?

So YouTube likes to do this. Here we go. Paxton says, Accursed Farms did a video about Star Trek TNG episode that is mirroring what is happening now. Would like to see your opinion on it. However, it does not bring me hope. Ooh, I want to watch that. I don't remember that. I don't remember that episode. Yeah, what episode was it? We'll figure it out. I'm not sure. Who did you say? Accursed Farms. We'll take a look at that. Suba Bam Bam says, our insurance company for where I work said they would pay for the testing for COVID, but not for treatment. Well, at least you know, right? Sumner Robertson says, is it more beneficial for you if I become a member or donate weekly?

Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you guys what we used to do. We used to do, we used to be heavy on the membership, but there were, you know, there's a lot of challenges with maintaining it. And we wanted to make sure we had the podcast available on various platforms, which kind of negates the purpose of like making someone pay. So now it's just unlisted every, every day. Super chat's probably the best way to do it. But there was also a challenge with overlap between my content and the content we do for the show, because it's not necessarily the same thing. Like, you know, it's, I don't want to get too much of the details, but if you like the show, contribute to the show,

and that's the easiest way to put it. Super chats are probably better if you do them more often. YouTube takes a huge cut, by the way. So, honestly, just, you know, do what you want to do to help out the show, and it's appreciated. And like, subscribe, and share. Maybe that'll help a lot, too. Spread it. Oh, yeah, sharing

definitely helps. You know, spread the word. Stu Bird, thanks for becoming a member. Cliff says, when you can, take a look at the YouTube channel Dr. Mike. He's a real medical doctor from New York, and I find him very reliable. He just interviewed Dr. Fauci. When this is over, you should try to get him on the podcast. Sounds good. Brian, thanks for becoming a member.

Thanks. Andrew Simmons says, the main problem with the idea that there would be a World War III, the USA will not go after population centers there is no hate for chinese citizens unlike world war ii's us versus them mentality war is different today absolutely that's a good point a good point yeah some grumpy goat says hey tim hope you're all doing well if this tussle between us and china continue by 2077 our currency will be bottle caps i completely agree or toilet paper Or toilet paper. Or toilet paper. Possibly toilet paper. Yeah, yeah.

I'm going to get rid of this, though. Or water. Take it out. Why? It was a good centerpiece. Well, I mean, we're going to have a different segment. It's a conversation. It's fine for the first one, but.

And that brings me to the next story and a potential controversial subject. Civil rights in an era of global pandemic. What you see now on your screens is a story from U.S. News. Thousands march in Spain on Women's Day, despite coronavirus fears. March 8th, the day before my birthday, tens of thousands of feminists in Spain did not care, ignored the warnings of the coronavirus. Many of them probably didn't know. And they marched side by side in a massive crowd. That is a huge crowd. That is a huge crowd. Look at that picture. And at the time, you know, hindsight is 2020. So at the time, they didn't really think anything of it. Oh, a couple hundred, it was 600 or so people

who had the coronavirus. Now Spain is one of the hardest hit areas. So it's easy to look back and claim how, you know, how stupid these people were. And I certainly think, I think it is a criticism. You know, this was at a time when we already had China locking down the entirety of their country and people were really concerned it was going to get bad. But it's not just about the feminists. It's also about the pastors. A Florida pastor was arrested after ignoring coronavirus emergency orders and bringing crowds to his church. There is, you know, a bunch of studies, a bunch of polls, I should say, came out showing the left is more willing to adhere, you know, to the warnings, I guess. And the right is less likely to. OK. Because many people on the right feel that the media is just trying to drum

up fear for either ratings or to make Trump look bad. This results in a lot of people on the right downplaying things. Makes sense. So, you know, even though the funny thing is, I feel like the right also got roped into this. They got baited because Trump actually started the task force on the 29th, banned travel on the 30, on the 31st, I think. And the media was still saying, nah, ignore Trump. He's a xenophobe. He's overreacting. It's not, the flu is worse. And then finally, when Trump and his supporters started buying into what they were saying, saying, oh, we don't think it's that bad. The media flipped and then started saying, ah, we got you. And then it made Trump double down. He's like, ah, it's the fake news. And it made sense because if you have a media saying everything's fine,

and then you say everything must be fine, but then they start accusing you saying everything's wrong. You're like, I don't believe you. You're just lying to make me look bad. And so now we have this, you know, basically this thing basically happening. But it actually does get kind of a bit more sad. A pastor who claimed COVID-19 hysteria was a plot against Trump dies from the virus. So this one actually makes me sad. Yeah, it's a bummer.

Serious bummer. He actually died on the way home, too. He wasn't even home. He was on his way back from the hospital yeah he was in new orleans um and doing some sort of you know spreading the word and uh he caught the virus and was on his way back and like halfway home he collapsed and went to a hospital right there and i think it was like the next day yeah like that fast yeah so it's really it really is a sad story yeah man yeah so look you know we were talking about this earlier and i was like you know making fun of a large group of feminists is like you know who's who's really who's really going to complain it's like a group of people it's not an individual none of them like necessarily

lost their lives or anything yeah but this is like a dude and so this stuff kind of worries me that if if people aren't going to take it seriously or they're going to you know downplay it and then they're going to end up losing their lives this makes me sad this is a this is a human being this is an individual who you know at least according to this uh to patheos had uh an incorrect view of how serious this was and now people take this stuff seriously i don't know do you want to read the story and and i mean no not really i it's we pretty much covered it already it's pretty it's pretty much a bummer i mean he he was basically believing the media or not believing the media like now they're you know this is just some some thing against trump and trump's telling me it's okay

so i'm gonna go out and keep doing it. And, you know, believing that the Lord was going to keep him protected, which is obviously not true. Or like that other article we just had, what did the pastor Rodney Howard Brown told his followers there was a plan to shut down Christianity and that God might replenish their low supply of toilet paper. It's just like... You know, I almost don't believe it, though. I got to be serious.

It does. It's tough to believe. It is tough to believe. You're right. But you know what's crazy? That same day that the feminists marched is the same day... I just checked it out.

It's the same day the Smurf gathering in France. What? These people, man. I had to look it up. I was like, no way. Is it the same time? Because it was right around our birthday. Tell people what the Smurf thing was because they probably don't know. Right, I had to look it up. I was like, no way. Is it the same time? Because it was right around our birthday. Tell people what the Smurf thing was because they probably don't know.

Right, so actually in France, the same day as this feminist gathering was the Guinness World Record of the largest Smurf gathering of people dressed up as Smurfs. And sure enough, two or three days later, France's COVID-19 cases spiked up. Well, but the incubation period's a couple weeks. True. That's a good point. Maybe it wasn't a day or two later. I don't know exactly. But I remember having a conversation with you.

Like, oh, I saw France is, like, spiking now. And I'm like, hmm, what happened recently? Oh, yeah, there was that Smurf gathering. And it's like, what is up with these people gathering? it's like they didn't believe it you know right like but i don't you know i don't you can't blame the media because the media flip-flops sometimes they're saying it's crazy sometimes they're saying trump's lying it's not so bad it's just no you know i blame the media they they flip-flop when it's convenient so they can get traffic that's good that way they can simultaneously like you can google search something like los angeles is a paradise and los angeles sucks

vice.com and see vice writing both articles yeah they do it because they want to capture the entirety of the audience so then what ends up happening is people don't trust the media they assume everything the media is saying is is a. And then so if a story comes up that's actually important, they won't actually believe it. Right. So a lot of people end up not believing it. They'll fall victim to this. But I'm not super concerned about whether or not people choose to believe the media or not. The bigger question here is, should the pastor be arrested for telling his congregation to come together?

Should the feminists be, you know, broken up? Should the event be shut down because of the coronavirus? Should people have a right to peacefully assemble? Should people have a right to go on Facebook and post memes saying they don't think it's real? I can't say no. Yes, people should always have the rights, but people should be smart. It's like it doesn't make sense to be going out. And when this is going on, it's like I don't understand why they would want to still. You know, it's like, yes, I get, you know, coming together for a reason. You know, like the feminist march makes a lot more sense to me than the Smurf gathering.

You know, it's like that. Right, right, right. Very easily been postponed. There seemed to be a lot more people. This in spain is that where it was yeah the feminist march yeah okay it's like that was a lot of people you know i wouldn't have expected that many people in spain you know it's like but i guess so it's oh totally this is in a pandemic i'm sorry in a pandemic but it wasn't a pandemic at the time oh okay or actually was it it was i'm pretty sure it was yeah i think it was i'm pretty sure it was you know right we were talking about the smurf

thing like what are these people doing like or it was an outbreak at least what let's figure out when the pandemic actually was declared because it was march 8th they went out they went out protesting yeah well so here's this here's the bigger question you know trump was talking about hard quarantining us that was freaky yeah you know we're like whoa yeah you freaked out there for a little bit. Well, but I mean, for good reason. We're going to close the bridges. Right. How do we where do we go? Like, what do we you know, are we trapped? You know, what goes through like the food trucks? Is that the only thing that is allowed to pass through? So Dr. Fauci and other medical experts talked to Trump and said it was a bad idea. So they issued a strong travel advisory.

Because if they did announce a hard quarantine, people would flee this state so fast they couldn't do anything about it. It would cause just pandemonium. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Like, if there was, you know, the National Guard on the bridge, and there was, like, I don't know what that would entail. Like, would they just park a couple trucks and, like, have it just, you know, like you were saying, like, turn around, go back, you know, like, have, like, some sort of turnaround system?

But, like, if enough people wanted to get over that bridge, they're going to make it over that bridge. I think we're still close to that happening. Like, China locked everything down. That's why you saw the riots. So, yeah, if in China they're going to riot and flip over a police vehicle and bash people with shields. Well, I feel people here would. I mean, I don't know for certain, but knowing the temperature in China, like not actual temperature, but just like the environment of China, CCP versus the people, basically. It's just like we've seen it in the past.

Well, a lot of the people in China, they're used to this. Right. The government will oppress you. You can't do anything about it. In the U.S., we're rebellious, hard-headed, FU to the government will oppress you can't anything about it in the u.s we're rebellious hard-headed f you to the government what generation though what generation in china is is used to it you know all of them it feels like there's younger like some sort of young like all the whistleblowers are old or younger generations they're not old people

they're younger people like they have access to Younger, meaning probably in their 30s or 40s, it seems like. They seem younger. And those are the people that I saw fighting. It wasn't a bunch of old people fighting the police. It was a younger generation fighting. All right. So here's the question. First, well, I'll get to the serious question. We have another story here from BuzzFeed. They were opposed to government surveillance. Then the coronavirus pandemic began. As nations around the world take on sweeping new powers to fight the disease, critics aren't sure what's necessary and what's too far. I don't necessarily want to read this, but it's just I want to highlight that the conversation is here. We are seeing an expansion of federal authorities. We are seeing in Maryland one year in jail and a $5,000 fine up to if you violate their stay-at-home

order. And they've announced in the decree it's indefinite until they say so. In Virginia, they said until June 10th. You know, this is all I see is like a lot of people, even people that I know, I'm sure a lot of people out there are staying in they are abiding by the quarantine and like trying to stay in and only go out when needed but then we got all these stupid spring breakers and like you know people gathering going like i have a lot of friends in new york that are posting pictures of the park and there's mad people in the park yeah totally of course no one cares and it's like they're the reason that the people that are going out to the parks i mean are the reason

that this is going on this is getting worse and worse because them just going let's just quarantine please just stay inside that's not working and so so what the only answer is hard enforcement it's a violation of the First Amendment. I agree. Where's the line? Here's the question. I'll give you a scenario. It's 10 a.m. You hear a knock on the door. You walk to the door, open it up,

and there's a guy in military uniform with his hands behind his back. Next to him is a doctor, and he's got a needle, and he flicks it, and he says, Mr. Krigler, your shot? Your arm, please? What do you do? Do you say, yes, sir. Please inject me with this unknown foreign substance. I'll just trust you.

Or do you say, I'm not letting you put that. Who are you? You're not my doctor. I don't know who you are. I mean, I would definitely deny that. If they're going to do that, it's going to be at a hospital or some sort of tent that know tent that let's say let's say they announce um in order to lift the quarantine everyone's got to get a vaccine and they get you get a card in the mail and it says you must arrive to the this you know makeshift fema emergency camp okay at 10 a.m you show up a bunch of people in line one at a time and they walk up they prick you in the arm

next person they just keep giving everyone vaccines vaccines. Would you walk in and just take the shot from the government? I think so. I don't know if I would. I say that begrudgingly because I'm the same as you. I need to know research. I need to know what's going on. I need to have all the details. I want to see all the tests.

I want to know that it's been proven and that it works, you know, and if I'm not getting that, I'm going to be hesitant. But if every single person is getting it and they're not giving me a choice, it's like, what is the choice then? Right. Well, that's authoritarianism. I know. And that's terrifying. I agree. Do you stand on your principles and say, say like so here's the issue right i'm so we talked about this before i've gotten a ton of vaccinations because i when i would travel around like you got to do it man you don't want to get yellow fever or like typhus or something so i got no problem i went to the doctor i was like give it to me you know and you know what's crazy is one of them i think it was the hep a shot okay goes in your skin oh like really yeah like not all the way just like a little they go

sideways into your skin and that hurt he was like this one's gonna hurt the most and i'm like all right and i was like wow that did hurt the most it's not it hasn't hurt that bad so it's interesting though that you would freely just take these vaccines that have already been proven when long-standing right lots of data true right lots of data. Now we have a bumbling government. It feels like they have everything they can on this because I still believe that they're freaking out. The reason they, I mean, one of the reasons, because there's many reasons I'm sure they're freaking out, is because it's hitting the generation that's in charge. Right. Right.

Of course. Of course. You know, so they're really trying to figure this out so they can have a vaccine soon. Let's do it another way. Let's say the government showed up and badges verified. You're like, it's very obvious to the government. And they said, we want to take this pill of hydroxychloroquine and this pill of azithromycin right now. Would you take it?

No, I don't have the disease. I don't. No, no, no. They said, we found it's prophylactic. We want everyone to take it and it'll protect you. And this is the official thing. Don't worry about a vaccine just take these pills and you're good to go and we're going to the door to administer this okay can i ask do they watch me or can i pop it in my mouth and be like no they're right there like put in your mouth take it all

right put in my mouth no they want you to take it put it the reason i'm asking it this way hide it in the closet for if i do get it the reason i'm asking this way is because what people need to understand about my reticence is that the media just spent the past several weeks telling me that these treatments were dangerous and will kill you. That's a good point. So now if the government says, hey, it actually does work, I'm going to be like, I don't know. BuzzFeed told me it'll kill me. I'm not going to take that pill. Are you nuts? And it's BuzzFeed's fault, not mine.

Well, I don't believe the media. And hopefully a lot of people, I mean, seriously, a lot of people are learning that the media is crazy and not paying attention to it anymore. Look, a ton of sites told me that the drug tethered by Trump will kill you. And I just heard a story about a man in Arizona who took the drug and died. And they're going to try and explain to me it's not true. And I'm going to be like, blame BuzzFeed. Yeah, blame the media. Blame these sites that were lying this whole time and

that he took the drug i could say in quotes because it wasn't this is a this is a real conundrum though because they're they're look man there there's a lot of people who are anti-vaxxers for really strange reasons like they they see memes and they believe fake things yeah there are a lot of people who ask legitimate questions and get smeared in the press as being anti-vax. Like one of the things that comes up is they ask, I don't think my child should be forced by the government to medicate in order to go to school. Like, okay, that's an interesting point. You can believe that vaccines work and they're very important, but not like the idea of the government forcing you to medicate. Okay. I certainly don't like the idea of the government mandated medication. That sounds insane. It's like 1984 or worse yeah the government doctor shows up here's your pill for the day nah not interested

so the challenge now is we have a pandemic yeah people are dying yes the vaccine sounds like it'd be pretty good thing i agree i would like to not get the coronavirus and have my lungs explode right yeah but it's a question of if we just give in today what does that mean for tomorrow if we just say like i don't care if the government forces us to medicate then at what point are they just like it's a normal thing everyone medicates take your pills shut up and get your chip when you're born yep because it's normal you know no thing i don't think the chip thing will ever really catch on though it's it's it's it's like i i feel like the the implant chip idea which exists and it's not a conspiracy theory.

There are companies and people actually voluntarily get the chips in their hands. It's like, you know in Back to the Future, in part two, when they go to the future and they see the hologram of the shark and the self-lacing shoes, it's an archaic view of what the future would be. What didn't they predict? Cell phones. They hit a hoverboard because they had skateboards and they're like,

what if a skateboard could float? And so they imagine that we, no, we invented cell phones and now we can have access to the summation of human knowledge anywhere we are and use it to look at pictures of cats and argue with strangers.

Yeah. But we don't have self-lacing clothes. I think the chip in people's skin is basic. It's the equivalent of that. It's like 20 years ago, they were like, what if you had a chip that could do these things and now we have cell phones and we're like i can just nike did actually build the shoes i know i know they're a little expensive though

not worth it but i can just wave my phone over the door and the door opens right yeah it's funny that you mentioned smartphones and chips because in china they are requiring you to have a little green barcode before you go back to work. Really? What's a little green barcode? It's on your phone. You have to scan it. I saw them. I literally saw a video of them scanning. But what does that do? It tells them that you're cleared. You went to the doctor. You got the okay.

And they take your temperature. Oh man. Dude, I would not want to live in a place like China. China's an authoritarian state. Yeah, we knew that. I guess it's not really surprising. And we're also seeing how it doesn not really surprising. The chip and the smartphone. And we're also seeing how it doesn't really work. It doesn't.

It is not great. The system can only handle so much, but I will say a surveillance state makes it substantially more likely the authoritarian regime stays in power. That's a good point. If people can't assemble and communicate without being shut down, there you go.

So that's why we have the First Amendment, right? The right to peaceably assemble so we can talk about these ideas and push back. But if they're surveilling us, the moment you send a text message where you're like, I don't like this, they come for you. They snatch you up.

Yeah, like we saw in that one movie. Which movie? The Hunt. Oh, yeah, The Hunt. Oh, we watched The Hunt. We should talk about that. We should. Should we talk about The Hunt? We should. Yeah, we should. All right, let's do this. Let's do that next. Yeah, let's do it. All right, we should we should talk about that should we talk about the hunt

we should yeah all right let's do this let's do that next yeah let's do it all right we're going to talk about the hunt the movie where liberals kidnap conservatives and then hunt them for sport yeah all right but first we'll grab some of these super chats we'll try to make it go quick but there because there's there's a ton of super chats you guys i really really appreciate all the super chats i just got a burst of energy that we're gonna talk about something other than i was like yes i remember and it wasn't bad the hunt was great i was i was i was i was surprised how good it was really pleasantly surprised well let's grab the super chat all right yeah all right where are we at where are we at cliff says when you can take Cliff says, when you can, take a look.

Oh, we talked about that one. Okay. All right. Let's see where we are. So I'm going to go. I think we got you. Yes. Samuel Farmer says, all my friends' grandma people aren't making it up.

It's just one guy they all know. So only one grandma, but all his friends are saying it, so it seems like more. That's a really good point. Six degrees. Yeah, it could be one person. Six degrees is separated. You know, Auntie Smith's son one person like you know auntie smith's son or you know auntie no no what's an italian name i don't know giovanni yeah there you go has a son named uh giovanni and he's a really popular guy who knows everybody he told all his 10 000 friends they tell everybody and everyone thinks it's 10 000

grandmas that's the whole world 10 000 grandmas later steven says china is a paper tiger china has not seen war in decades troops are ill-equipped they spend more time learning propaganda than military training military branches don't have central coordination yes but they stole all our ideas and they have more men than women so those are my two arguments all right let's see where are we at there we go all right some summoner says i know youtube takes some of the money when you do memberships but i So those are my two arguments. All right, let's see. Where are we at? There we go. All right. Sumner says, I know YouTube takes some of the money when you do memberships, but I was wondering if you receive 100% of the money via donations. I know you're not making as much money as normal, so I wanted to help.

The stuff on my website is like, I think that if you go to timcast.com slash donate, it's like 3% goes to PayPal. But I do want to stress, this show is entirely different, right? So my show is, you're supporting my shows directly. If you want to support the whole crew, then giving to Super Chat and membership supports the crew. Yes, it does. Thank you, guys. One of the challenges was that I was getting hit up by people who were saying they were going to cancel the donations to my other content and then move to YouTube, which YouTube actually takes a massive cut of.

But we're so we're trying to create them like the stuff I do in the morning is very different from the stuff I do at night because Adam and Lydia are part of the show as well. Right. So, you know, my shows in the morning are supporting me. The stuff you do now supports everybody. So that's clear for everyone. It's like different. All right, let's see.

Harry To says CNBC article mall owner tubman tells tenants must pay rent he owns 25 malls scary stuff man well he's not gonna get it 25 malls yeah he's not gonna get that money you don't need 25 malls man well i mean you know if you want them it's fine but if you think people are gonna be paying rent now what is that saying you can't get blood out of a turnip you can't get something that ain't there right you're not gonna get it sorry gavin thanks for coming to member thanks none of biz says tim here is the overstated italy figure story remember tim you're talking about a media complex that censored brazil's leaders and berate trump for talking about a studied trusted medicine as well yeah the media is trash i agree period it's it's it's

unfortunate but it is except Except for Subverse News, which you should check out. They're doing great work, by the way. And also Timcast is pretty good news also. Yes. Joseph Kasky says,

my concern about freedom of speech in America is that we have a media apparatus that freely lies. If the government were to crack down on media, it could inadvertently affect the rest of us poorly.

Yeah. How do you crack down on media without cracking down on freedom of speech? You know, it's like We're the ones what is it? What are the ones who pay for media so much power by watching them now listening to them? Mockingbird paperclip was the World War two thing operation Mockingbird Mockingbird was when they infiltrated media, right? I think so who did the CIA?

Okay, so I don't know a whole lot about it But there was a senator who claimed the cia had positioned its agents within media companies something like that there's a lot of details i don't know and i don't know maybe it's not even true i don't know yeah it started in the early 50s and they tried to manipulate news media for propaganda boom well that worked all right let's see we got the school bus says tim i grew up in a church environment since i was a kid maybe the toilet paper replenishment is bunk, but God protecting you from the virus would be something you'd hear a lot of

in a church. Oh, 100%. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Paxton says, too much talk about rights and not enough talk about responsibilities. Everyone maintains their rights, but they should also take responsibility to not spread the virus. People should act to maintain their liberal societies. Excellent point that we missed over.

How do you encourage responsibility without trampling on rights that is mostly the concern because rights are easy to take away yeah man and responsibility is hard to enforce i'm right it's like setting examples isn't doesn't really work like that's what you you've been saying it's like how do you you set an example without like well i have an idea like what if punishing what if there was a place and we could put people in it if they did things we didn't like and if they didn't want to go there we would use guns right maybe maybe we could even set up barb i know and then what we do is we take their organs and sell them that's what china is doing yeah okay right that's what china is doing that is not an answer

to any of these problems it makes them worse It makes everyone in the world hate you. So yeah, it is a serious trouble. It's cultural. Bad parenting is the problem of public shaming. Let's bring it back. No, we have public shaming called cancel culture. The problem is... No, not everyone's online.

And you can turn it off. It's not the same. No, it's not about being online, man. People who are not online lose their jobs still in cancel culture. They'll post your photo, they'll post your face and you'll have no idea what's going on. And then all of a sudden you get fired. People start making phone calls. It's even worse. Yeah, that's a good point. So the problem is that we don't think ahead.

And so we encourage really bad behaviors that have long-term negative effects. We assume, it's like, it's totally fine if people don't have dads. And then 20 years later, they're like, it was really bad bad we tried to kick out the legs from our culture we're like we can take this all for granted and this is something heather mcdonald heather haying talks about she talks about how she feeds her kids organic food because she doesn't think that you should mess with stuff that you don't understand completely yeah like don't change things that have been this

way for you know millennia yeah you don't mess with it and we're trying to do that and it's not even about trying it's that we don't care because we're like i don't see any negative effects to having no dad yeah it's no big deal right we'll give you money you don't go to bed no what's the problem and then 20 years later it's like a dude's in jail and on drugs and it's like maybe you should have had a dad yeah we know too late yeah all right let's see jmax says I found that the more libertarian minded individuals, uh, that the more libertarian minded individuals trust that trust the government less have been more prepared for this crisis than those that either like governmental control

or are geopolitically geopolitically unaware thoughts. Yeah. So I think it's true that Democrats aren't preparing or no, no, they are preparing more. And that actually proves the point because the conservatives already prepared. Yeah. And the Democrats didn't. So now that everything's falling apart, they're rushing to the gun stores. This is the funniest thing to me. Seeing people in L.A. be like, why are gun stores closed? Because you voted for these people.

Well, they walk in and they're like, why can't I get a gun today? Let me give you more money. Let's make this happen. And the gun owner is like, are you serious? This is what you voted for. It 10 days these people man they don't pay attention and i don't necessarily blame them because not everyone's job to know everything but if you're not paying attention this is what happens when you vote for this stuff you should know what you're voting for you should emica thanks for the super chat oh man it just jumped on us where we are there we go

let's see. Pusa says, yes, the pastor should be arrested. As it about Christian, we obey the government, even if it costs us our lives and livelihood. Roman 13, the second guy, sad, but wisdom prudence in is the Bible, Proverbs. Mix G Chan says, I have five years in USA and the only vaccinated once when I was approved for my green card. I have never gotten sick in the US. I believe my immune system got enough while living in the Caribbean islands. Interesting. Pateras Rex says, data, data, data cannot make bricks without clay. Work at a shopping cart repair and cleaning tech. Thanks for what you do. Appreciate it, man.

Steven says, Have you seen the article about the guy who owns a closed Philadelphia hospital and is refusing to let the government use it unless they pay him $1 million a month? I saw that go by. Something about it. I didn't know. No, I haven't heard of that.

Well, what I read was that he wanted fair market price. Okay. And they said no. And he said no. That's eminent domain then. They need to give him fair market price. Yeah, they do. Absolutely. That's what people don then. They need to give him fair market price. Yeah, they do. Absolutely.

That's what people don't understand. If the government is going to seize your property or requisition in any capacity, they owe you the fair market. If the government doesn't do it, you don't give it up. Think about what would happen if this dude, like, you know, it's easy to say do the right thing for our society and give them access to your hospital. Think about it from his perspective. And I don't know, maybe he's a bad dude, right?

I'll put that out there. But it could also be him looking at his books and being like, if you take these numbers, we can't maintain the building. The power gets shut off. All the staff are fired. Yeah. And then they said, we don't care. And he's like, well, then get out of here.

And then everyone's saying like, what a bad person. You're like, we don't know. We don't know. Yeah, the optics are bad, but he might have his reasons. Ralph, thanks for the big old super chat. And Ray Johnson says, is your assembly peaceable if it could potentially kill hundreds or thousands of people? Well, the problem with that is, is your assembly peaceable if you trust the government? Yeah, there's a guy in South Africa who had coronavirus or COVID, whatever, and broke quarantine to go to church.

And then he was, I think, being held for attempted murder or something i'm not exactly sure but um yeah it's just like yeah some guy in south africa broke quarantine and they they were like hold him for attempted murder so it's like is that is that basically the same thing you know it's like if you're telling people to come or you're going to protest with a bunch of other people and then you go home into your neighborhoods and sprawl out back into the countrysides or whatever. Didn't California decriminalize no willful HIV transmission or something like that? Yeah. Is that for sure? Can you check that though?

Yeah, 100%. 100%? Was it? Yeah. Willful. Seriously? You don't have to tell. You don't have to disclose whether you have HIV.

So that means you can hook up with someone, not tell them anything, and if they get infected, no problem. But I want to make sure we have that fact check because I didn't pull up a source on that. I will double check. Because I'm very, very... I take my sources very seriously.

Yeah, understandably. But that's always crazy. I think it's funny that they're actually arguing you could get someone sick. It's like, but California. Yep, HIV patients in California will no longer face felony charges for exposing others to the illness. What's the source? That is Fox News.

CNN lowers penalty for California lowers penalty. Wow, boom, there it is. Yeah. Well then, all of these hypocrites who are like california did a good thing with this but if you have the coronavirus obey the government otherwise prison yeah no well anyway moving on to the next more fun story yes we watched finally we watched the hunt we did we watched a movie do you know what the hunt is we review we're reviewing a movie we're it's but it's it's it's politically relevant yeah it is it is about liberal elites who kidnap conservatives and hunt them for sport so that's

fun check this out talk about how it got canceled didn't it or yes who did this so it was it was it was a little bit of everybody but it was a lot on trump okay so when the movie was originally supposed to come out i think it was what in like september or something it was a while. A lot of people saw the trailers and saw opening text because, like, a script got leaked or something. And it was, like, it was kind of, it was pretty bad in the beginning. They're talking about how they're going to go hunt deplorables. Yeah. And they were mocking them. And the trailers very much depicted, like, I don't know, doting conservative types confused being hunted with gags in their mouths.

They even referred to the rat-faced president or some sort of yeah exactly some sort of rat effer in chief rat effer in chief yeah and so in that term online yeah the movie is literally about the uh the the right and the left and trump tweeted that it was like something it was like it's really awful that they're the liberals are depicting conservatives being like hunted for sport. And what people didn't realize is that, because I was, I'm absolutely, I was absolutely critical of the concept from the, from the, from the beginning. I was like, what the heck?

But the film shows the conservatives are the good guys. This is the craziest thing about the film. And guess what? If I told you there was a movie that shows liberal elites as maniacs who are so vindictive they would kidnap strangers for saying mean things about them on the Internet and then hunt them for sport, you'd be like, OK, you're making fun of the left. Like, we get it, right? But what if I told you that Rotten Tomatoes has the official tomato meter?

Oh. If I told you it made the left look bad, could you then imagine what the score is going to be? Well, for those that are listening, the audience likes it. The critics hate it. Now, the audience score is only 66%, but it is considered pretty good. Yeah, I would rate it a 66.6 in IMDb. That's about pretty accurate. I don't know, a little bit more.

Yeah, it wasn't that good. You don't bit more. Yeah, it wasn't that good. You don't think so? No, it wasn't that good. I actually thought it was pretty good. For what it was. I wasn't expecting Lord of the Rings. It was kind of like a comedy to me. It was a comedy. It's literally a comedy. Yeah, exactly. It was entertaining.

At first, I gotta say, I was really like, whoa, this is bad, man. This is bad, bad, bad. I was like, this is going to make it worse. Yeah, but I thought that too. And then they were like, oh, yeah, but by the way. I don't mean bad as in like it was an awful movie. I was like, dude.

Oh, you mean like politically bad. Yeah, there are people who are going to watch this and they see a caricature of the left as violent psychopathic murderers who mock and belittle them and then hunt them for sport and i'm like we we already have it bad where people create a caricature of of the left and the right yeah and this movie propped up the worst examples of what the left and the right were and not even the right actually to be honest the right was actually just you know doddering doddering doddering but innocent. And like old people and like it was brutal. And the left was depicted as like these snide, wealthy, savage, emotional morons. Spoiler alert. All right. Full on spoiler alert. I hope you guys are ready to open with that. No, no, no, no. I'm just saying that now we're getting into the spoiler alert. I'm gonna start talking about stuff. So I'm going to give you a fair warning for the next 10 or so seconds.

Spoiler warning. So in the trailers, if you a fair warning for the next 10 or so seconds. Spoiler warning. So in the trailers, if you watch it, it's very obvious the conservatives are the good guys and the liberals are the bad guys.

Right. Now they do make some of the conservatives have to be bad guys, for sure. Like, but they're not bad guys in the sense that they're antagonists.

They're bad guys in the sense that where you're like, oh, they're terrible people. They're bad people. Yeah, you're just bad person. But here's the thing. The way the movie is set up, it's very obvious based on the tomato meter and

the audience score. I think the split might be due to the fact that they do make conservatives. Some of them look really stupid and like awful people. And they but they more so make the left look like really nasty, evil people. So the critics on Rotten Tomatoes normally give like social justice lefty movies like top scores and the audience rags on it. So there's like Death Wish, for instance, the Bruce Willis movie. It's got like a tomato meter score of like 10%,

but the audience is like 90 something. Oh, wow. It's a fun movie. That's awesome. It's about a guy, his wife gets killed and he gets revenge. It's like kind of like, it's not the same as John Wick, but there's like a similar kind of feel to it okay they called it a gun nut

masturbation film whoa and i'm like well no it's not it's a dad who didn't own any weapons and he buys a gun because someone broke into his house yeah and then he like protects his daughter and he and he takes out the guy who was attacking him sounds like a gun nut it was just a movie it's like whatever and but the audience thought it was fun because it was it was a popcorn flick it's not like you're gonna write you know you know, you're going to put it in the Library of Congress or anything. It's not going to be autographed. It's fun. It's a fun movie.

You're bored. You watch it. I think you'll have a good time. So let me ask you. Of all the people that are watching this movie, like, are you worried that people are, like, how many people do you think are going to take it as though this is how people are? I don't feel like there's that many people out there or am i just too optimistic if i feel like based on what i watched in this movie there's going to be a contingent of people on the left who are disgusted by it and

angry that it makes them look like monsters but there will be a contingent of people on the right who look at this and they say that's exactly who these leftists are i swear to god i mean what's the percentage of people out there that are like that though tiny yeah but but a decent amount so and those are the people that go crazy and do this is going to sow animosity and division and that's why i think they took it down because i'll tell you what man i'm gonna all right so so i gave you guys a spoiler warning here we go the the premise of the movie is that these uh in the beginning they these these super wealthy liberal people are texting each other about going to their vacation home in Eastern Europe and blowing off steam, blowing off steam. And then someone says, I can't wait to go and hunt some deplorables.

And then someone jokingly jokingly responds, you're not supposed to text about that. Someone leaks a screenshot and it becomes a conspiracy theory called Manor Gate. Manor Gate. Rightor Gate, right. And so it starts with them being hunted. It's actually kind of funny. It's super brutal and gruesome. And the woman here on the left, this is very obvious from the trailer, so it's not the worst spoiler in the world.

She's the protagonist. She's the good guy. And she is a Mississippi Southern girl served in the armed forces in Afghanistan. Presumably, not overly conservative. They don't actually, like, bring that up. Because, like, she is actually there by mistake. So I've spoiled the movie for you. But the bad guy is this liberal elite who got angry that people were saying mean things about him on the internet.

So hired, like, a military consultant and a bunch of her friends to hunt people and drug them and then drop them in eastern europe and then murder them all yep and they say really annoying lefty things god non-stop like the old couple was really cringy oh man yep they were art and but it was okay it was it was cringy but it was funny like it's funny yeah it was funny that's true it i didn't expect it to be a comedy it was making it totally was a comedy if you are a regular conservative person or moderate and you're not gonna get your like you know you're not gonna be your panties aren't gonna get in a bunch no no no no no no what i mean is you'll it's hilarious it's really really funny

seeing like people talk like one guy's they're driving in a car and they don't realize one guy's a bad guy and he's like i would never blame the victim and then as soon as he says that the main character like just slowly turns swivels in her chair and then she pulls her legs up it's funny it's really fun then just boom right out the car yeah like she's like oh this guy's a bad guy and it's really funny seeing them like they don't know how to use guns oh dude my favorite my favorite part of the movie is when she she has uh uh she has some kind of rifle i don't even know that much about guns and so the the liberal guy grabs the clip and then laughs he's like and then she looks at him with like this look and then she shows in the chamber and then

shoots it like because they don't know how guns work it was funny it's funny so i really do think this movie was made for more right-leaning people. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, they're the good guys. The liberal leads are the bad guys. It's like the whole thing is a joke on, I think, Pizzagate. Seriously. That's why they call it Manorgate.

Everything's a gate now. They talk about a bunch. Enough that you're like, okay, we get it. But I do think there will be a small contingent of people who look at this and it will make them feel an increased animosity towards the left. There's a small group of people that look at anything and it does the exact same. Of course. I'm dead serious. You know, so it's like.

Yeah. As long as they're not going out and like killing people because they just think that that's now the case. Should I do a rundown? Should we do a rundown of it because we already spoiled it? At this point, I'll just say you've been warned. We've spoiled a decent amount of it. But basically, some of the celebrity actors that are in it aren't actually in it. I mean, it happens all within the first like 10 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Heads are being blown off. You see all these famous people and like the first 10 minutes is like, oh, I know that person. Boom. No, you're not. Okay. All right.

Well, maybe it's this person is going to be the main character. Nope. Nope. All right. I did. I did like Glenn Howerton is in it from It's Always Sunny. I liked his character. He's Dennis and It's Always Sunny.

Yeah. And there was a funny scene where he's wearing a... So they're going through all the people they want to hunt down in Hawaii. And he walks in with like a kimono robe and he gets yelled at because it's appropriation. And they like argue with each other. There's a bunch of moments like this where it's like

very much insufferable leftist social justice stuff. Yeah, it's bad. But I wonder if this was them taking a bet on whether or not they could make a product for moderates and conservatives and see if it would succeed and it ended up backfiring because you know people like trump and were like shut it down this is awful and i'll admit i even i was critical like i think but at the time like we were dealing with street violence and stuff and i'm like whoa man it's like i don't know so it's it's almost uh it's almost kind of sad because most of the movies that people they make

like this is blumhouse for instance don't they do like social justice movies yeah they do they did the invisible man oh that was awful oh man oh the invisible man is so bad yeah i didn't see it dude i don't think i want to you don't want to see it? After you told me, I think I'm good. It's so bad. No, thanks. It's so bad. No. It's like the premise of The Invisible Man is she's like, out of nowhere, her... So this guy...

Look, man, I can't even explain the movie because it makes no sense. It starts with her, what appears to be like robbing a dude, for real, and like drugging him. Yeah, that's a strong start. And then all of a sudden she's the victim somehow. Yeah. But then like the first thing she does when something weird happens, she goes, My boyfriend didn't die, and he's invisible.

And it's like, what? Wait, seriously? Yeah. She, like, figures it out immediately? Right, right. So, like, apparently she's escaping this guy. Oh, sorry. Spoilers?

Whatever, man. No one's going to go see that. I don't know. No, no, no. There might be somebody out there who's like, oh, man. We're quarantining. Okay, so spoiler alert. You watched it.

Look, Invisible Man is a feminist trash film that got great ratings. Go figure. And The Hunt is a satiric, a culture war satire. And it's funny. It's gruesome. But in Invisible Man, it's basically like her boyfriend apparently dies this is all in the trailer by the way so it's not you know really too much yeah and like her ex-boyfriend she flees him and then she ends up like he leaves her money

and then all of a sudden something weird happens and she goes and like she immediately says he's still alive i just can't see him he's invisible and it's like how did you leap from you just saw a picture of his corpse to he's still alive and he's invisible like how does that make sense at all the movie was just total garbage i'm glad i didn't watch it but here's why i bring it up as it's sad because so many of the movies that the hollywood has made have been overtly woke and annoyingly woke. Like Ghostbusters. You know what?

I might want to add right now that I finally did watch the last Star Wars film. I know we've talked about it for everyone. And it was terrible. But it's sad terrible. Like you could see how they were trying to recover what they had lost because of the second one. It was sad terrible. Yeah.

There were like really over the top bad things where they were trying to jam two movies into one because they ruined the second one. Yeah, and whatever cohesion the actors had together, like, you know, the first movie, it felt like, I guess there was still mystery, you know, you still didn't know the whole story, but there still was like, they worked well together. But this movie, it felt like they were strangers again suddenly suddenly all of the actors were strangers they didn't know each other anymore and they were like learning how to act with each other right right yeah it was weird i don't understand like

how did they lose all of that here's the point i want to make about the hunt yeah go ahead they make all of these woke movies that they're just miserable and everyone hates it and the critics pretend like it's good and they make the the hunt, which I actually thought was funny and mocking the left for the most part. And it gets shut down because conservatives and Trump were, you know, calling it out. And I'll assume some of the blanks. I was critical of it for sure. But I was more tepid critical like I usually am. But they do make fun of conservatives. Like they make one guy look like a really nasty dude. But you don't really relate to him. I think you're supposed to relate to the woman who's in between these people rolling her eyes like, Ugh, who are these stupid people?

But here's the thing. And then at the end, you don't find out where she leans politically either. Well, she's very obviously conservative. Southern military weapons. She doesn't use a gun. She doesn't specifically verbalize it's true yeah but come on is is a you know a woman who lives in mississippi who served in afghanistan knows how to use a weapon more likely to be conservative or liberal conservative but yeah

yeah well i like the idea of somebody standing in the middle rolling their eyes to me that's me like a moderate perfect but but here's the problem or i should say the problem the the conservatives here's the thing here's the thing you Or I should say the problem. The conservatives. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. You're welcome. Figure it out. You're welcome. The conservatives are stupid in the movie.

They're not really conservatives. They're like conspiracy theory podcaster types. Right. But they're innocent. The big problem with them is they have stupid thoughts. Yeah. Like one guy is like, it's like the premise is they were saying mean things on the internet about these people. And that was justification for executing them all. And so the left decides

to literally go and murder tons of people for being mean online. That's it. So ridiculous. So it's like, you can despise some of the things these guys say, because they're really dumb. Yeah. But there was one scene where a guy is, he's in, he's in the, he's in the gas station. And the woman behind the counter says, be careful with that thing. He's holding a gun. It's going to go off. And he goes, it's not going to go off. And she's like, what if it does? And he goes, I own several guns. I know what I'm doing. And she goes, why? And he goes, excuse me? She goes, why do you own several guns? And he's like, because it's my constitutional right to defend myself. And then she's like, and what do you do

after the revolution? And he's like, what? And she goes, what about them? Aren't they exercising their rights? And he's like, what? And then, you know, she kills him. Yeah. So a conservative guy saying it's my right to have a gun to defend myself and these people are trying to kill me. And their justification was that so it's their right to have guns, too. Like what sane person would agree with that statement? Yeah, it didn't really make sense. Well, right. They're mocking the left for being insane and this is the uh the old couple that i was referring to earlier that was like and it was dude this it is satisfying to watch this movie it was well done i was really impressed with like uh 6.6 the antagonist the protagonist doesn't start right away with her like it it actually, it's good.

You see her in the beginning. Right. It kind of alludes that it's going to be her. They give you this big celebrity moment, which is hilarious. Yes. Wonderfully. That was the best part of the movie. Yes.

It was fantastic. And then she comes in and she is a badass. Yeah. It is amazing. And it's very satisfying to see her just like her attitude is very just like slow and methodical but also kind of nonchalant and blase yeah she was a cool character yeah yeah all in all i think it's better than a 6.6 man i'd give it like a seven cool it's a movie i would watch again yeah i said i said seven i think yeah seven so uh i recommend it i guess

it's pretty close. 6.6. Yeah, I'm glad. So we also watched Bloodshot while we're here. Okay. I would give Bloodshot a 6.5 or a 6. I would give it also a 6.5, yeah. That's not as bad as I expected. Bloodshot was cool, but it was very much like a typical Vin Diesel action film.

Yeah. And I felt like they could have done so much more with it. It was kind of cool, the twist that you find out what he was really doing for them. I'm not spoiling it at all. I'm saying there's a twist as a spoiler. There's a twist in a movie. Oh, my goodness. Hey, man.

Hey, man. Look, they're all going to be like, no. No, they trust the word. That's right. So Jesus. Yes. All right. So I actually want to do one more quick segment so

okay do you guys want to do you guys do you guys feel like doing the the baby boom one talking about baby boom yeah i guess we'll just jump we'll do this one really quick we'll uh sure so this is a story that's been popping up quite a bit because we're all locked in our homes well yeah we were joking about it multiple times. Right. Yeah, we were. There's going to be a bunch of babies we talked about on the show, coronials. And there's actually two things, a baby boom and a huge spike in divorce rates. Yeah. Because people are trapped with each other now. Why not both?

But, well, exactly. I hope not. Some people have argued it'll be, no, no, we won't see a baby boom. We'll see divorce. And it's like, no, I don't see a baby boom we'll see divorce and it's like no i don't think you understand you can see both yeah you know and people are gonna have kids and that's kind of a bad thing but the washington post said we might see a coronavirus baby blip not a boom i don't agree there's a lot of reasons for the baby boom well boom was over a course of years not one like i mean i hope we're not they also for years they also didn't

quarantine their entire population which was much smaller well that's why it's going to be a crazy blip instead of a boom you know oh dude maybe in nine months yeah like right around now hospitals will be overrun yes pregnant women yep for real and schools i hope a few years later yeah that's the blip. It makes sense. Oh, I see what they're saying. Yeah. A boom is like a slow roll and expansion, whereas a blip is like a massive spike. It was like that whole era of like, we finally beat the recession.

We're building America. Yeah. You know? But here's why I think it's guaranteed to happen. Some people say, well, we don't actually know people are going to hook up and have babies, right? Yeah. Sure. Condom shortage looms after coronavirus lockdown shuts world's top producer.

Boom. Baby's coming. Everyone was grabbing the toilet paper, toilet paper. And then they weren't showing this, but they would ride around the aisle and grab all the condoms, too. Were they really doing that? No. No, okay. But this is Kuala Lumpur.

A global shortage of condoms is looming. So, all right, I'm kidding. Right now we have condoms, so people are going to get them. So we'll see what happens if in nine months there's a major boom and we're going to wake up tomorrow and it's like, for some reason, people all across America were running to the store and buying out condoms. At one moment, 12,000 people went out right around 10 p.m. Eastern and raided all the condoms. Oh, man. Yes.

So the Washington Post says, thanks to the coronavirus, Americans have been locked out of their offices and told to work from home. There's no eating out. Well, depends on your definition. Oh, I'm so funny. Timothy. No recreational shopping and no hanging with friends. Almost all events are canceled and no one can travel. There's not even live sports on TV. Seriously, man. So boring. Of the many questions this extreme situation raises, one will have to wait several months for an answer. Should we expect a coronavirus baby boom? A surprising amount of research has been done

on the subject of post-disaster fertility. The headline hypothesis is fairly straightforward. With other activity curtailed, couples have more opportunity and perhaps more desire for intimacy. Nine months later, babies show up. This theory was behind- Is that how it works? That's it, yes, yes, the stork comes. This theory was behind a series of articles published by the New York Times in the aftermath of the great New York City blackout of November 1965, when several local hospitals registered an increase in births starting in August 1966.

The Times attributed the spike to how the infants' parents kept busy when the lights went out. Hold on. Seinfeld, please. Thank you, Adam. So I had a question. Yeah. How long was the blackout yeah i don't know how long are we gonna be stuck inside a couple years no they said blip it's not a boom years i'm worried i think we're gonna be locked down for a long time man i don't think anyone understands maryland's lockdown is indefinite they've given they've. Right. Yeah, that's frightening. So the closest comparison these people have is like weather events and the blackout in

1966. Look it up. Very, very short. Pull up the wiki. I'll keep reading. Yeah, I'm really curious. They say sociologist J. Richard Udry wanted to test the assumption for himself and in 1970 published his findings.

As it turned out, upon reviewing the citywide data, Audrey found no statistically significant increase or decrease in the number of conceptions during the blackout. Yet ever since, each new disaster seems to have brought reports of a surge in births. If lack of alternative entertainment doesn't spur a COVID-19 baby boom, might the widespread calls to come together for the sake of our civilization inspire people to start working on the next generation? I really doubt it. This banding together theory was one of the main explanations in a 2005 study showing an increase in births in the counties surrounding Oklahoma City after the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. When a population

unites around a common goal, people feel more ownership of the future. We might therefore expect more baby making to result from the nationwide campaign against the coronavirus. Yeah, I think it's actually we have no purpose. And because we have no purpose, there's no need to reproduce. And I don't think it's necessarily about people being occupied with other things. I think it's like, so I was reading that people die most after retirement. Like that's true, right? Yeah, that is true. Typically when people retire, they die within a year.

Well, you know what I think that, you know what I think, I could be wrong, but here's my personal hypothesis. I've never heard that. Yeah, it's like 55 to 60, right? Especially guys, I guess, when they retire. They die really soon after retirement. Think about the advantage in evolution.

If someone is no longer producing for the collective, for the tribe, for the family, they're a drag on resources. They're no longer working, they're not producing. Them dying would be a net benefit to the rest of, to the survival, survivability of the family because now they need less resources.

So if you have 10 people and, you know, one buffalo can feed 10 people and one person does no work, everyone is doing extra work to support the person who doesn't. There are some people, they found this in the blue zones, the areas where people live to be over a hundred. One factor is that they all work well into their, you know, nineties or a hundred. There was one interview I saw, I don't know if it was an interview, but there was a guy in Japan and it was a really old guy in his 90s chopping lumber, chopping wood. And they were like, you're 90. Why do you still do this?

And he said, if I don't, who will? Yeah. So one of the big factors in survival was, you know, was that moving. So I wonder if the reason people don't have babies is for the same reason. We know internally we're not doing anything to better our society. It would be a drain on society to, you know, reproduce in a world where there's no purpose anymore. So now that we have an actual common threat and a goal and our survivability is under threat, people all of a sudden now start

reigniting a desire to have kids. And they might, it might be subconscious. It might just be like, all of a sudden, they're like, I'm gonna have kids. And it could be because now we are actually being threatened. Or like what we were talking about the other couple, maybe a month ago now, is like how this whole thing bringing factories back to America is like bringing Americans back together. So it's like back to the 1950s. Well, you know, it doesn't have to be back to the 1950s, you know, but still bringing production back here is simply a thing that can be bringing people together. It's like we a lot of people on either side are like we should make our own medicine like china shouldn't have control over our medicine that's like that's pretty broad you know it's like but a lot of people believe

that so it's like we should start working towards that and then the we in that sentence is the key you know it's like so maybe it's already kind of begun and now we're quarantined. Right. But do you think people are consciously saying like, I think we should have children for the sake of our country? No. It's more of like a comfort thing, I guess. I mean, obviously in this situation, it's not really comfortable. But the thought of having kids isn't as scary because you know, because there is something there for them. We're building something.

We can rely on each other. Right. And maybe. Exactly. When you start to think that there might not be a future, you start thinking about the future. And you're like, well, if I want to have kids, maybe I should do that now that I have time. Here's another thing. More people should think about the future. Well, maybe it's also this.

Maybe for a lot of women who are working, they never have the opportunity. So now that people are at home, they're thinking, we don't know how long it's going to take, how long it's going to last. There's a window now where you can't work. Like one of the concerns I read about, because I'm not a woman, so I wouldn't know, is that if women choose to have a family, they take time off work and it holds them back. If now everyone has to take time off work. You're on the same page.

No detriment. Maybe we gotta have a bunch of kids so we can raise the farm in the old school way. That's right. Get to work, kids. Conspiracy theory time. Start plowing the fields. We gotta raise the corn up. That's the conspiracy.

The governments of the world are seeing the declining birth rate of all of the different countries and we're like, we gotta figure out how to lock everyone in their homes and make them terrified of their own mortality. And you know what? It's interesting. I'm kidding. Yeah.

But there's a lot of people are going out and buying food, buying a lot of things, buying stuff. Yeah. Spending money and buying stuff. Well, it's true. But the economy. No, I know. It's almost like a hard reset, though.

All of a sudden now, our farmers and our grocery store workers are our most important jobs. Truckers. It used to be like celebrities. You know when you take like a... I'm going to pull Nintendo 64. You take the disc out. It wasn't working. You blow it.

Reset. That wind that you use is COVID-19. Boom, put it back in. A cleansing rain. If we have a hard reset. I'm just kidding, I don't know. We have a hard reset to our economy. And all of a sudden now we're like truckers, doctors, nurses, police, EMTs, like core jobs that actually make society function are now getting, you know, people are clapping and cheering.

You see these videos? Yeah. Like a nurse walks outside and everyone in the neighborhood is screaming and clapping and she's like, you know, thank you, whatever. And you don't even know if at her hospital they're overwhelmed. Some places they are, some places they aren't. So it's kind of like a back to basics thing. Yeah.

Where people are going to come out of this being like, what do we need to build? Because celebrity ain't it? You know, we don't need to cheer. I mean, we'll still have them for sure. Right. But right now the celebrities are going insane in their bedrooms. And everyone's watching. And making fun of it.

Why are you, like, you're in a mansion. You have, how are you not, you know. You're literally crying in your mansion, bro. We're not interested in hearing about you right now. No, this is actually another interesting point is all of a sudden now they're not sympathizing with the wealthy people crying in their apartments because they see how bad it is for the doctors and nurses actually catching this, getting sick or putting themselves at risk. And still out there working. Back in the, like before all this broke out, a celebrity would cry and people would be like, leave them alone.

You don't understand how hard it is to be a famous celebrity. Now it's like. Neither do you. But now it's mainstream to mock these celebrities. It's true. Now everyone's jumping in on making fun of them. Even the celebrities. Right.

They're realizing it's not cool to be the weirdo. Yep. You have to make fun of the weirdos. Wait, this isn't working anymore? Oh, no. Oh, no. What do I do? My whole premise is built on this.

Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see. What is it? It's March. So that's November. November. Gosh, it's still March. March 97th. Yeah, Jesus.

Seriously. March is... April's just around the next year. Yeah. Well, come November, October, November, and December, we'll start to see stuff. We'll see what happens. Hey. We'll track it.

The baby blip. The baby blippers. The cronials. The cronials. You know how there was a little baby boom after that power outing? Yeah. You know how long the power was out for? How long?

25 hours. We are going to see something like we have never seen before. 25 hours. That's so stupid. Well, hold on. Hold on. They do say they found. They said it was small.

They found no statistically significant increase or decrease. Oh. Oh, man. You ruined it. I read that already. All right, all right. Let's grab. We're going to grab the rest of these here super chats when we'll try to get what we can.

I found an article that said otherwise. I think. Okay, here we go. All right. Let's see. Benjamin says authoritarian regimes that crush individuality will inevitably collapse because without it, they won't be able to adapt to new situations. And I agree with that. Adhal says, keep up the great work. Also, just realized you always tell us about your bug out van to distract us from the fact you have a bug out Zeppelin.

Steven says, be safe, do the right thing. God blessings to all. Appreciate it. Shane says, my sister was exposed because her idiot roommate thought God would protect her on a trip to Israel. She was wrong. Fortunately, sister tested negative. That's good to hear. And Kari, thanks for the super chat. Zach Lee says, Tim, you're all the TP I ever need.

Salem County went from three COVID cases this morning to 12 this evening. Be careful, my fellow South Jersey peeps. It's here. Whoa, really? Salem. Wow, man. Yeah, we're in south jersey so we're seeing it pop up now i'm not giving my name to a machine what is that from is that from i don't know it's bender i think oh

bender said that i'm not giving from futurama machine maybe it sounds like something bender what's that's the joke is a machine coronavirus fire and brimstone coming down from the skies, rivers and seas boiling, 40 years of darkness, earthquakes, volcanoes, the dead rising from the grave, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria. And that is a Ghostbusters reference. I think.

Yeah, totally. Yeah. Dogs and cats living together. Dogs and cats are friends. Bill Murray. Yeah, yeah. He has a great rant. JMac says, Shapiro had Jason Blum on his show talking about it. It was actually a really good Sunday special with some insight into Hollywood. Yeah, I didn't have a chance to listen to that. The Hunt is good. You guys should watch it.

You'll like it. You'll have fun. The Immortal Watchdog says, you should watch the first season of an old show called Earth Final Conflict. It predicted a lot, including having an outbreak and a Trump-like character. Interesting. And Kari says, people get to vote nationally if you do military service for four years. You always get to vote locally, even without service. Encourage responsibility.

This. That's the Starship Troopers method. I gotta watch that again. Service guarantees citizenship or whatever. Guarantees citizenship, yeah. Bimbo says, in NYC, know some nurses with hours cut. Know other people that know nurses with. Some hospitals overrun, some slow.

Like Lenox Hill, no BS. Yeah, yeah, it's mixed, you know. David and Couch, thanks for coming members. Thanks. Onuxin says, Tim, would you ever consider arming yourself? AR-15 member, maybe. Also, would you ever wear a Gadsden flag beanie for one show if someone sent you one? Probably not the Gadsden flag, although I got no issue with it.

I like it. AR15, it depends. Absolutely, yeah. Fullbeard says, please talk about the Duncan Lemp story on one of your videos. It's very relevant to what's going on with authoritarianism.

I'll take a look into it. Dark Duck says, the hunt got delayed because of the shootings. ATM, that's right. It was around the time it was like a big shooting or something, right?

Oh, okay. Yeah. Truthseeker says, Generation V. That's right. It was around the time it was like a big shooting or something, right? Yeah. Truthseeker says, Generation V. That's kind of cool. NonServium says, Oh no, an emergency. I guess I'll just open up my legs and get free rent. Well, there you go. NonServium says, Factories will not come back to America because we will not

lower our standard of living. They'll just go somewhere else. I guess we'll see. Frank says, Hi Tim, Soy Jesus, and Lydia. Thank you for the content i was certain things would get worse here in seattle but i'm glad it's slowing down oh that's good presumably chris white says the mayor of houston told criminals to take the month off for coronavirus oh yeah they'll do it generic says generic says lydia is the ufo and john reese says one thing i've noticed as a slightly younger person, 24, a lot of people are

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