Timcast IRL - TimcastIRL #59 - Joe Rogan Podcast LEAVING Youtube After $100M Spotify Deal, Youtube Is Over Party

Episode Date: May 20, 2020

Joe Rogan is leaving YouTube for Spotify (and a nice chunk of change!). Tim details what some of the contracts mean in the business. Then, the UN attempts to control the narrative by controlling the words with a list of appropriate, gender-inclusive/gender-neutral language. On a related note, Twitch is officially on the out after a moderator let the mask slip and told the audience they should be very afraid of them (spoiler: We are!). Some fun and thought-provoking superchat conversation finishes the evening.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the TimCast IRL podcast, everybody. My name is Tim Poole. Tonight, I'm hanging out with some people. Oh, you know me. What up, everybody? It's Adam. Oh, you know me. You know it. You know Jesus. And me. Producer Lydia. Producer Lydia. I see we got a bunch of crabs in chat. That's the crab dance. You know that video? No. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan! He's leaving! He's leaving all of us behind. Yes, he is. This is huge, yeah. Joe Rogan. He's leaving. He's leaving all of us behind. Yes, he is. This is huge, man. I feel like he's shifting more than leaving. I mean, he is leaving YouTube, yes. Well, not really, though. His clips will still... No, but the podcast is leaving.

The podcast is leaving. Right, the podcast is leaving. It was hard because I didn't want to... For those that are just tuning in, I didn't want to put in the title, like, try and break down exactly what's happening. Joe Rogan is leaving iTunes. He's going gonna go exclusive on spotify but the clips will still be on youtube so it's like i couldn't put this whole thing oh

that so it's not gonna be on itunes either no oh spotify spotify that's the i believe that's a story now this is big good for him this is a big deal because i mean this this is that this gonna be bad for youtube is it yeah i mean, YouTube, their bread and butter is their volume. Okay. The CPMs, the ad rates for YouTube, they're not good. And so they made money. Like, their bread and butter was the fact that they had a massive library of all this content flooding the market, crushing everyone else out. Rogan's getting millions of views on his podcasts.

Yeah. He's going to take that away. That's true. The clips may still end up's getting millions of views on his podcasts. He's going to take that away. That's true. The clips may still end up getting a ton of views, though. They might pick some of that up. But ultimately, I don't know, man. I got a lot of opinions about Joe Rogan's movement. Now, all I can say is congratulations for the, you know, 100 million bucks.

We'll talk about what that really means. So this is the first story we've got. We've also got the UN. We're going to talk about UN's weird attempt at language policing yeah and and we always try to introduce stories we're going to get to and then we never get to them so we'll see what happens we've got a couple of the stories you know batwoman i don't even bat like ruby rose is quitting batwoman so like what is the show even yeah this is this is a show that was just like slammed for being a social justice show and i think she left because you mentioned she was in uh john wick john wick too and she was

good she was great yeah she was cool i wonder if she was like this is destroying my career you know it's like a bad show yeah and she's like doing john wick you know what i mean yeah that's cool and then we also have um what do we have oh yeah the navy fighter jets we never got to that so so if we if we have time these are the stories we have lined up. Aliens. Aliens. Aliens. The UN.

Joe Rogan is first. So if you haven't already, smash that like button. Welcome to the show. Oh, I smashed it. Get your comments in now in the super chat because we always try to read as many as we can, but we go in reverse chronological, or we go in chronological order. So first come, first serve. And we usually get too many. it becomes physically impossible to read i gotta be honest like we

really do try but i think last night we read like for 50 minutes straight just like here's what so and so said so and so says this and you know it's so at a certain point it's just like it just too many come in yeah and it's rough it's rough because some of the comments some of the super chats are really really great and we actually can riff on them and do whole segments when someone's like, Adam, what do you think about this? And then we're like, well, and then we talk about stuff. Yeah. But if you'd like, get in your super chats and we'll do our best to read them when we can.

Subscribe, like button, notification bell, all that good stuff. And share the podcast if you like it. Now that Joe Rogan's leaving, that means we're going to be the coolest podcast on YouTube then, right? That's correct, yes. Yeah, because he's the only one I defer to in terms of like, I mean, he's the biggest in the world. Coolness. So let's just get started. The Wall Street Journal, check this out.

Spotify strikes podcast deal with Joe Rogan worth more than $100 million. Wow. million dollars wow his full library dating back 11 years is to hit the service september 1st and become exclusive to spotify after that before the end of the year wow there are so many implications to this for us for everyone else okay what does the money mean is it a good idea maybe not okay but i mean i'll tell you what for For him, you mean? Yeah. It's tough, man. Because I've, you know, we've, I'll keep this vague, but of course, we've had people approach us saying, you know, hey, this podcast, and you really got to weigh opportunity for growth, revenue, super chat versus upfront contract cash.

And I've been through all this dealing with, you know, working for big companies and getting locked into contracts and what it means. I'll tell you what, man, I was in a two year contract with that ABC news division company. Right. Right. And it was a golden, it was, it was golden handcuffs. That's what they call it. They give you this money and then it destroys you. So for like two years I was gone. Like I was making some stuff and some stuff did well, but it's like, I go from doing these on the ground, you know, viral million, you know, 5 million views overnight, Kim.com on Vice, then I did Ukraine, 2 million, Ukraine again, 2 million, and then I go to Fusion, and it's like, I wonder what happened to that Tim Pool guy.

Well, we were even going to have a show. You and I met with the president, and he was like, yeah, this is so cool. You guys can do this podcast that we're actually doing right now that seems to be doing well, and they missed their chance. They were like, eh, okay. So let can do this podcast that we're actually doing right now that seems to be doing well and they missed their chance they were like okay so let's yeah go so let's do this so that's some pretext we'll talk about a lot of this and i'll break down what these contracts mean joe is likely not getting they're not writing him a check for 100 million dollars right this is the average person is going to hear that and be like they're going to think spotify was like 100 million here you are joe it's a lot more complicated and i'll explain in a second but

let's read the news get the context. Joe Rogan is taking his podcast exclusively to Spotify Technologies SA in a licensing deal worth more than a hundred million dollars, according to a person familiar with the matter. That would be one of the largest such deals in the rapidly growing podcast business. The comedian, television host, and MMA commentator has become one of the most influential and lucrative podcast hosts in recent years, especially with his popular Vodcast video podcast format on YouTube. Rogan, 52, has so far withheld his podcast from Spotify, saying the streaming service doesn't pay enough, and he had been generating significant revenue on other services such as YouTube. His full library, dating back 11 years, is to hit the service September 1st and become

exclusive after that, before the end of the year. His video podcast, which will also appear on Spotify, will no longer be available on YouTube. Yes, Spotify will host the videos. I didn't know they had video. I don't think they do. This might be a specific thing for Joe. Maybe they do.

Do they host videos? I have no idea. I looked. I was unaware because that's huge. Yeah, I thought it was just music. That's huge. Spotify has spent hundreds of millions of dollars acquiring entire companies, including Gimlet Media and Bill Simmons, The Ringer.

The deal with Rogan is a multi-year licensing agreement for an amount of time that couldn't be learned. That's an interesting way of phrasing that. It will likely be worth more than $100 million based on milestones and performance metrics, according to the person familiar. Last year, the creators of popular true crime podcast, My Favorite Murder, signed a two-year deal worth at least $10 million with E.W. Scripps Co.'s Stitcher unit, according to people familiar with the matter, in what was then one of the largest of its kind. Launched in 2009, the Joe Rogan Experience has built an avid fan base discussing wide-ranging topics

from neuroscience, sports, and health to comedy and culture. His show consistently ranks the top of Apple Podcasts rankings, sitting at number two on Tuesday. Rogan's many sponsors includes 23andMe, Dollar Shave Club,

Zip Recruiter. Joe does the best commercials. He does. Have you heard of him? No, I don't think so. Because it's like, he almost makes fun of the products. Oh, really?

Yeah, he was doing one commercial we were listening to where it was like, what was it for, like shaving your junk? Yep. It sure was. And he was like, this thing is for like, you know, shaving your junk. And then apparently it had a light on it.

It has a light. He's like, it comes with an LED. Wait, you got a light on this? Man, anybody shaving down there in the dark, you're crazy. Yeah, he's great. Well, he's a comedian, man. He's funny. Yeah, that's true. So here's a quote. He says, we're going to be working with the same crew doing the exact same show

as he announced the deal on his podcast Tuesday. The only difference will be it will now be available on the largest audio platform in the world. He also assured his fans the podcast will still be available free on both Spotify's ad-supported and premium tiers. The deal comes after a year in which Spotify,

the largest music streaming service by subscriptions, has made heavy investments in podcasting as it recasts itself as more than just a music service. It's a very, very, very smart move on the part of Spotify. Totally. Smartest thing they could have done. Oh, they nailed it. Now, if you

were Joe Rogan, Joe's already wealthy. I don't know. I don't know how much he makes there. There's, you know, you can look up the celebrity net worth, things like that. And there's estimates based on how much money he makes based on CPM and the ads he does. And someone, I think posted, uh, made a post arguing that he made like 75 K per episode or something. I don't know. I don't know anything about his metrics or how much money he makes. The question is, first and foremost, well, actually, let's break down how a $100 million deal would work. So you'll often hear this when someone signs a contract. They'll be like, Adam Cridler signed a contract valued at $5 million with, you know, I don't know,

Florbo Corp. And then people instantly assume you got to check for $5 million how do you know about that it's breaking news just kidding but uh florbo corp so if it's so if it's so this is a multi-year deal right yeah divide that hundred million by the by the multi-year deal right multi-year what does that mean at least three or four well they don't even know they yeah we could not be learned it was someone familiar so all this is just hearsay too it's not even real stuff i mean i'll tell you what that was when i first heard uh joe posted the announcement that he was going to be leaving youtube and itunes yeah i said 100 million i was like what are they paying him 100 million bucks because like you have to understand the amount of reach and promotion everything he

gets from youtube so we can talk about why this might be a bad idea in my opinion i don't know what joe knows and i know that jo Joe is insanely more successful than I am. He's also got 20 years on me. But I know a lot about YouTube metrics, and he probably knows a lot more about the podcasting business. He's been doing it for a lot longer. So I can only defer to him and say he's probably made the right choice knowing how much money they're offering him. Do you think YouTube's sweating a little bit right now? Because they're losing the – I mean, he's one of the number one he is the number one one podcast in the world the number one and they were on youtube yeah exactly

and i and i think about how youtube messed this up remember he used to do his show live and then they stopped doing it live so i don't exactly know why i can surmise it has to do with the risk of getting your live stream pulled because you said something or someone said something you can't control it yeah i see which has happened tons of people have done live streams where all of a sudden their stream gets just removed and it's like the stream goes dead in the middle of the live broadcast that's why i'm like very careful when we're reading super chats and stuff and we're talking it's like they could just nuke the stream instantly and it happens. So if he does, so, so my assumption is it has to do with that. He can better control the show. And it shows you that YouTube is not a safe place to run your

business. Not even for Joe Rogan. I think for the most part, he was safe. Well, let's, let's talk about the money real quick. So if it's a four year deal deal i'm just assuming is that what you think uh i i would estimate because it's joe two at least two years it's tough though it's tough um a lot of companies will try and get you for three years but joe rogan has the leverage yeah so i'd imagine he might be like we'll go for two years we'll see how it plays out and it's a multi-year deal yeah it might just be two years and so that could potentially be 50 million in in value potential value so we got to break all this down if joe really does make you know like 75k per episode i don't know if that's true yeah and he does what does he do like four episodes a week so he's making he's making a

lot of money yeah a lot it's really good so how much do you have to offer him for him to walk away from YouTube, for instance? Yeah. Already set up. Already getting the money. I don't think he makes that much on YouTube. No? The commercials he does, I don't know if I believe he makes that much money because I don't think... No, I'll stop there.

I don't know what the metrics are for top iTunes shows. I do know the metrics for one of the highest profile shows that was basically leaked to me, so I'm not going to reveal who it is, but it's a very high profile individual, and they get a tenth of what they get on YouTube, and it's one of the biggest shows on iTunes. So my understanding, and that's similar for my podcast, I get substantially less podcast downloads than I do YouTube views, like ridiculously less. And like even for this show, we get like 20 times more views on YouTube than we do on the podcast. It's like hard to promote. So anyway, if Spotify went to Joe and they were like, we'll give you $10 million a year for two years, then where does that other $80 million come from? What people don't understand about that number is that it could include marketing deals. It could include production staff support.

It could include travel bonuses. It could be predicated upon reaching certain milestones like they mentioned. So I don't know all i can say is the number must have been good enough for joe and now he's going to leave youtube so there's a bunch of things to talk about this is going to be great for us it really really is it's going to be it's going to be amazing yep so i recently went on the joe rogan podcast many of you may have seen it it's currently sitting around 5.8 million views wow i know why it's sitting at 5.8 million views.

Okay. It's not entirely about Joe. It's about the YouTube algorithm. Okay. So I produce content every day on multiple channels. Right. Tim Pool is in the description for all of these. So YouTube knows there is a phrase, Tim Pool, that people search for and click on.

So when I did the Joe Rogan podcast, there's a reason why my podcast was the second biggest of April. So I think it was Eric Weinstein was the beginning of April, and it's got like 6.1 million views. So at the end of the month is my podcast. So Eric's got a few weeks on me. It may end up that my podcast ends up getting more traffic in the long run. But most of his podcasts are like a million, two million views. Because most of these people aren't on YouTube and their names aren't recognized by the algorithm. So when I did the podcast with Joe, I get hit up by a bunch of people being like, dude, YouTube won't stop recommending this to me. It's just like, it's there, it's there, it's there.

It's a combination of people listen for a long time. But it also has to do with the search term tim pool yeah evidenced by many of you may have noticed 20 year old skate videos of me popping up on youtube and it's it's it's hilarious but there's a there's a youtube channel of mine with like no subscribers that my mom was uploading to in 2005 and it's got skate videos of me when i was like 14 15 years old and my name's in it and And I'm like, how did YouTube surface this? It's because Tim pool was in the title. Yep. So following, you know, Rogan. So the reason I bring that up is when Joe does a podcast, I don't know what his views are like,

but a large portion of everyone's views on YouTube are driven by free marketing from the YouTube platform. So it's true for me. I've seen what happens when a video is suppressed. And I've seen what happens when a video is promoted. And when YouTube promotes it, it's like, wow, how did I get 700,000 views in a day? It's because YouTube algorithm put it in front of a bunch of new people. And then YouTube actually tells you, they say this podcast, you know, this, this video did really, really well with people who aren't subscribed to your channel. So Joe's walking away from that. It's a big bet.

It is. I mean, is it a bet when you're getting paid a hundred million? He's not getting paid, but over, over even, even if it's over a set amount of time, it's like the number was good enough for him to walk away from it. And I think it's not really a bet.

I think for him, he's 52. And so he's probably thinking, I don't want to, I don't want to, you know, act like I know what he's thinking, but at a certain point people are like,

I, you know, been there, done that. I did it. Yeah. Take the money and I'm done. You know what I mean?

Not, I'm not saying that as, as shade to Joe, I'm saying like, you know, for me right now, I'm, I'm hungry.

I'm like, we're going to build this company. We're gonna do all these great things. Joe's 52. He's got a bunch of projects. He's already become the biggest podcast in the world. Right. You know, he's, he's sitting on top of Everest and he's like, you know, you got a good deal for me. It's going to keep me comfortable for a, for a couple of years. All right, let's do it. I'd imagine it's more than two years though, simply because walking away from YouTube, that's a huge risk. Right. But I don't know, a hundred million million, man.

But he's still going to be uploading his clips and be making money off YouTube still. It's not like he's letting go of completely. It's just a lot or not the live show, but the podcast itself. And he's probably still going to be doing ads on Spotify as well. And Spotify probably said it's guaranteed promotion. But here's something else too. It's like one of the reasons joe is consistently the number one podcast in the world is because he won't get off the top of the mountain so when

people who have never listened to a podcast before open up itunes what does itunes say joe rogan check out joe rogan it's right there it's the first thing you see and you're like okay and then you've got you know joe he's he a comedian. He's famous. He's funny. And iTunes said so. Sure, why not? That makes it extremely difficult for other podcasts to climb because people have to know about it. So what you're saying is it's our time. Well, it's tough for us. No.

I'm just going to put that out there. There's other questions. There's other questions, right? I'd be willing to bet one of the reasons, maybe not a big reason, why Joe was like, we're going to take the show off YouTube, is YouTube's not a safe place to run a business. So the other day, I did a video about lockdown. People were flooding the beaches of Virginia, defying the orders. And I post the video, 10 a.m like normal yeah no views

like it's getting like two or three percent of the views it normally gets okay and i'm significantly different ridiculous and i'm like is this live and i look at my channel my channel's normal yeah and i'm like i guess the video's not getting viewed nobody could see the video so i pulled up incognito i looked at my channel video wasn't there and so at first i was thinking And I'm like, I guess the video's not getting viewed. Nobody could see the video. So I pulled up Incognito. I looked at my channel. Video wasn't there. And so at first I was thinking like, man, something huge must have happened that people aren't on YouTube right now.

There was a Donald Trump interview. And I'm like, maybe everybody's just watching the Trump interview. And so no one's watching my content. And then so when I checked, sure enough, YouTube shadow banned the video. You couldn't see it. How do you know that for a fact though because if you log into incognito and go to my channel the video is not there when you when i log in i see the video that's a shadow ban okay to me it looks normal to everyone else there's nothing okay and then i tweeted about it and a bunch of people confirmed the

screenshots the video didn't appear for them yeah i saw your tweets so all of these people were like i thought tim wasn't going to upload any videos this morning he must have been sick oh youtube just suppressed it the only reason that video ended up getting views like it normally would get is because i asked people like don't let them do this share this video youtube's trying to shadow ban this i even say in the video i'm like they're probably going to ban this because i'm straight up saying like people are defying lockdown. The people have spoken. Yeah.

And even this video now is at risk because YouTube is going to be like, we side. They're talking about it again. We side with the lockdown no matter what, even if it's illegal. I mean, but look at what YouTube has been doing. They've been kicking people out basically of the partnership program. So they can't get paid anymore. All these people that you know, friends of yours. Yeah, Luke, Ariel. Yeah, Luke, Ariel.

Yeah, exactly. And I'm sure many more. A lot more. So look at what Joe talks about. He's kind of far out there in his different subjects that he talks about and people he brings on there. So it wouldn't surprise me if Joe was kind of like, there's only a matter of time before YouTube bans me too. I want out anyway. And Spotify, he probably said to Spotify, we're going to get real crazy with it.

Spotify was like, we don't care. Do your thing. We want to win. Yeah. So YouTube got comfortable. Yep. They're comfortable. Now they're sweating.

If you swear, you lose money. And so it's like, is YouTube a kid's network? You can swear on TV. I'm watching that new Rick and Morty. It's not Rick and Morty. It's called solar opposites okay by justin roiland it's a fox show on hulu all right they don't they don't stop swearing like sailors yeah the curse like well they swear a lot it's not that bad i don't want

to exaggerate okay they do swear a lot and so i'm like why is it that hulu doesn't care yeah they run advertisers they do subscriptions youtube oh, oh, oh, oh. We can't do it. No swearing. So we're on a platform that is terrified of these weirdo people who identify as deer on the internet and are going like,

that's what YouTube is scared of. And so they're going to ban us. Yet, I'm not surprised Joe's like, I'm out. What was it uh joe routinely talks about the trans athlete issue because he's like really against you know biological males that's bannable man that's a bannable offense he's against biological males competing against biological females oh okay right i you had to finish it i think people understood you know the people that knew the context of. But for those who don't.

Right, right, right. Maybe finish the sentence. So Joe has talked about this a lot. There are biological males. They transition. They still have certain advantages. They compete against biological females. That is a bannable offense to bring up.

And here I am. I agree with him. Right? So we're at risk. I've talked to people at Google and straight up said, tell me right now, because I refuse to start a business on a platform that is this unsafe. Yeah. And they're like, no, no, no.

Trust us. Trust us. It's okay. It's okay. You're going to be okay. And I'm like, then why did you ban these people? Well, we can't talk about that. And I'm like, then why, why should I, why, why should I believe I won't be banned at

some point as well? And then they shadow ban my video. I'm like, yeah, I know it I won't be banned at some point as well? And then they shadow banned my video. I'm like, yeah, I know it's coming. So you know what? Yeah, maybe if Spotify came to me and they were like, we want you to ditch all these platforms. That's what I was thinking.

Maybe we should talk to Spotify. Okay. Give me a guarantee. They do videos. I looked it up. They do videos? They do. Since when?

I don't know. I have no idea. I don't use Spotify ever. Really? I want all the information, Lydia. I got nothing. I'll start uploading my videos. Yeah, I'll have to look into it.

I'll start putting stuff on. I will look into it. Yeah. Cool, yeah. It's not safe, man. And you got to think about like Luke Rutkowski, right? Okay. Luke's been doing YouTube for over a decade.

Yep. Like 13, 14 years. Early on, for those that aren't familiar, his YouTube channel is We Are Change. We're probably already in trouble for saying his name and mentioning his channel. Early on, he was like peripherally involved with like Alex Jones and like Infowars stuff and a lot of conspiracy theory stuff.

And then... Early on? Isn't he always though kind of on that conspiracy side? Not so much anymore. No, not so much anymore. Yeah, I guess I haven't seen his new stuff. There's a little bit that he does. It's in there.

But it's not nearly the same. At this point, he's talking about coronavirus in a very mainstream way, and people are yelling at him for it. So he's very like, I don't know. It's fairly okay. There's some videos where I'm like, dude, what are you doing?

But it's like 99% of his stuff is fine. They don't care though. It's his brand. And so early on, he had this involvement. They came and they got rid of him. And I think it's because of some of the people he had interviewed. But think about this. Let's say you're a young, dumb kid and you make a bunch of dumb videos.

You build your channel up over 10 years, playing by the rules. Everything's legit. 13 years later, you got 700K subs. It's your job. It's your living. You've dedicated everything to this platform. Always obeying the rules. Over time, you said, the rules changed.

I will adhere to the rules. Then they say, you know what? Your past, your brand has a negative impact on our business. So we're purging you. Outright, overnight, your livelihood, your career, everything's gone. Where do you go? How do you make your money? Just pull the rug out from under you. negative has a negative impact on our business so we're purging you outright overnight your livelihood your career everything's gone where do you go how do you make your money just pull the rug out from under you it would be like i always explain it like imagine you open an ice cream shop in like you know city center of whatever town you live in okay and your business is running

for years and you're making a living and you're like this is my job and then one day they literally come and pick up your business and just put it 40 miles outside the city. Like you can still sell ice cream, you know, over there where no one is. And all of a sudden now that's it. Your life is over. So in the real world, you can't do stuff like that. But it's like the biggest fear, I guess. But for me, I guess what works is that I'm kind of like a hippie in a sense where if they banned me, I'd be like, whatever. I'm getting in the van.

I'll go skate. I'm out. I'm done. Have everybody just save money and then dip out but i guess we'll see how this plays out because the interesting thing about joe uh joe peason is that there are a lot of people like i know when i can see it in my metrics when other people are doing well or have some kind of like bombshell a lot of youtubers don't get this they'll be like all of a sudden my views are down youtube's suppressing me and it's also like do you know how market competition works so if you put up a video at the same time as joe rogan guess what's going to happen you're not going to get a whole lot of views right because people are

going to go watch joe rogan if joe leaves the platform that's one to two million views in a day or so that he normally gets that's true they're gonna be looking for but but it's not just that his videos are two or three hours long yeah they are that means a million people now trying to fill three hours of content many of them we're here for you everyone we really are here we're here for you many of them are gonna go to spotify for sure i don't think all of them will i'm sure yeah oh like like i was mentioning i'm sure a lot of them already have spotify it's not, you know, it's not going to be like, all right, forget YouTube, Spotify. Now, you know, Spotify has been around for a long time.

There's a, there's a decent amount of people on YouTube that watch because they're on YouTube. Right. The same is true for Spotify or iTunes. Probably. So I can see it, you know, we can actually see it in the IRL podcast. You know, sometimes we'll have a massive spike in live viewers because of the subject matter. True. But we know who the core people are, who are always here, always hanging out. Yep. Love you guys, by the way. Yes.

Much appreciated. Talking to you, our core group. I try to read all your stuff. You guys are awesome. YouTube gives you a huge advantage. Free marketing. So long as it fits, you know, what youtube's machine is looking for yeah if you if you made a podcast right now put on on spotify you're not going to get any any downloads probably

not you make a video you put it on youtube you might get a million views overnight if the algorithm says hey this is you know what people like yeah so i guess for some you know from my perspective if i was now you know how long how long has Joe been doing this? 11 years into the game, into the podcasting game. 11 years, he's the biggest, he's the best. And someone came around and said, here's a contract, here's a bunch of money. Makes sense. You'd be like, yeah, I'm comfortable.

I got my warehouse, I got my friends, I got my archery thing or whatever. His warehouse is amazing. He's got what he wants, you know? Maybe now it's time to just get security or something. Yeah, YouTube's got to be sweating because they already purged a bunch of people. Now, you even said the other day, it's like the algorithm seems like it's kind of back into its normal flow.

They were pushing mainstream media. Now it's back to normal. A little bit. A little bit more. Depending on your channel. It's noticeably differently, though. And then now Joe leaves. Now imagine if a bunch of other heavy podcast users leave.

Get lifted by Spotify. And then all of a sudden YouTube's like, that's millions and millions of people that are not on our site anymore. Dude, they've got to be sweating. Yep. I mean, dude, if Spotify is hosting videos, I'm going to check it out. Yeah. Spotify is legit. So I'm already on check it out. Yeah. Spotify is legit.

So I'm already on Spotify for the audio version, but a video version? Yeah. Why not? Why not? But we'll see. I think one of the bigger issues, too, is Joe might actually end up losing a substantial amount of his influence because he's the biggest show on YouTube. He's the biggest show on iTunes.

Biggest podcast in the world. Will he still be when he's on biggest show on YouTube. He's the biggest show on iTunes. Biggest podcast in the world. Will he still be when he's on Spotify? Perhaps. Probably. It's hard to say. It's hard to say. People go listen to Joe Rogan. They like his attitude.

They like his jokes. That's what Spotify is hoping for. Yeah. And so the big risk when you sign deals like this is always, you know why they're hiring you, right? Because they don't get traffic. They need traffic, which means they need to bring on talent. So I'm sure Joe understands all of this stuff, but there, you know, and maybe he doesn't really care to have the influence he does. Cause he always mentions like, you know, he, he passively

mentions, I might vote for Bernie and then Bernie turns it into an endorsement. I can't imagine that's fun. It's like, dude, I didn't even say, I was just like, I might vote for the guy. And then all of a sudden everyone's yelling at you and insulting you. Yeah. So maybe it would be nice to, you know, to not be front and center all the time. But when I look at my metrics and I don't, I don't single out any podcast platform, I don't say, Hey, go to this platform. Hey, go to this platform. iTunes is 55%. Spotify is like 20%. So if you open the iTunes app and you see Joe's face every time, that gives him a massive amount of influence over the entire political landscape.

But it seems like Spotify is making moves. Not only did they acquire Joe, they acquired a bunch of other things over the past year. I can't think of them offhand, but you read them in the article. So it seems like they're making moves, man. Let me tell you a story. do tell when i got hired by fusion they hired a bunch of they made a bunch of uh grabs from various news organizations high profile individuals in media and we were called the expendables of journalism you know the movie expendables yeah

like all the stars yes everybody got paid an absurd amount of money. The contracts were ridiculous. Okay. Ridiculous. One dude got paid half a million dollars. Dang. Yeah, that got leaked. Like right off the bat? They gave him a half a million dollar per year.

His contract was probably valued at like $1.52 million. Wow. Yep. I think my contract was actually, and this is another thing about how, what it means, like a hundred million dollar deal. My contract with them, I would be willing to bet was the most expensive contract for them in terms of expendable hires. But it was because I had requirements.

So, you know, while, I don't know if I should actually say the number, but it was in the millions. Well, we don't, we don't need to even talk about that, but, but it didn't the millions. Well, we don't we don't need to even talk about that. But but it didn't work with them. They acquired all these expandables. Didn't work. Right. So Spotify is picking them all up.

You're saying it might not work or. Yeah, it might go down in flames. OK, so think about. I don't know. Spotify is solid, though, and it feels like they've they kind of been on a good trajectory their whole life. So, yeah, the difference is fusion was a bunch of clueless people who flushed money down the toilet thinking they could spend a ton of money and it would work

right isn't spotify a swedish company i don't know oh i don't have to look it up here's what i'm saying listen people have habits people have iphones you can get spotify on your iphone i guess okay but people have habits and that's also true and their habit is going to be like pop up in the iTunes. Or YouTube. Yeah. I think Joe is well aware that he's going to try and be pulling all of his users, the audience, from one platform to another. But he's also more than just a podcaster. He's Joe Rogan.

True. He's one of the most famous comedians in the world. He's an MMA announcer. Right, exactly. People know his name. And so in the world. He's an MMA announcer. Right, exactly. People know his name. And so maybe that's why he's like, whatever. For me, I look at how many downloads I get on the podcast, and it's nothing. It's 1 200th of what I get on YouTube.

So it's serious. If YouTube cuts me off, I'm done. I'm out. I'm not even going to bother. Later. I don't believe you. Oh, you're wrong. I'm done. I'm out. I'm not going to bother. Later. I don't believe you. Oh, you're wrong. I'm done.

I'm wrong that I don't believe you? Yeah, you're incorrect. Yeah, I am assuring you. Oh, that's funny. If YouTube came and were like, we are getting rid of all of your channels, I'd be like, I'm going to go do private consulting or something. Okay. Well, actually, we have Scanner, so I'd probably end up doing something with that.

Aha. And just... He wouldn't just quit. Rumpf, I have Scanner, so I'd probably end up doing something with that. Aha! And just... He wouldn't just quit. Rumpf, I say. No, I mean quit this. Political commentary, YouTube, making videos and stuff. And I'd go to, like, driving around in the van

and filming and just doing Verite adventures. That'd be fun. Be like, today we're going to check out... There's a story I want to do for a long time with my friend, Citizen Sloth Patrol.

There are people in Central America that just drive down looking for sloths trying to cross the street, pick them up, and then put them on the other side. I want do that because they get run over yeah and turtles yeah because turtles trying to cross the road yeah so the sloth patrol is like a really fun thing it'd be fun to go down in the jungle and stuff and that's stuff i'd probably start doing if i got if i got the x but i guess we'll i guess we'll see how this plays out i gotta be honest bro two things have happened that have made me worried, but very happy.

The first is when YouTube announced that they were doing this COPPA thing, where it was like Children's Protection Act or something like that. Children's Online Privacy Protection Act. And what they said was, we're going to disable premium ads, like targeted ads for all children's channels, and disable comments on all channels for children. And it was scary for a lot of people because they were like, what does YouTube consider content for children? Like most things. Yeah. So if you, if you did too many things, like if you're

a gamer, you're a kid's channel. That means they were like, they were, they were threatening you. People were worried they'll get their comments disabled. And so people started doing where they were like, I'll just cuss in the video so it's not for kids, right? What did Logan Paul do? Was it Logan Paul or was it Jake Paul? Yeah, he brought on

some interesting characters. He brought on some porn stars. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because he's like, not for kids anymore. Don't, you know, don't ban me.

Get it twisted. Here's what people don't understand though. For channels like mine, that meant a windfall of cash. Money was going to go skyrocketing. All of these channels that could no longer support these advertisements, the advertisers weren't going to stop advertising.

They just had nowhere to advertise anymore, which meant adult content like us and like my channel, that's where we pick it up. And so ad revenue starts going up. So at first, it's like this scared a lot of people. And I was like, listen, if you're a YouTuber who makes cultural and political content, you are going to see a major increase in your revenues because it's like they're basically taking it away from all these other channels and giving it to culture and politics,

empowering people like us for better or for worse the other thing is joe rogan leaving that's that second thing yeah him leaving is like oh man is youtube over like the biggest show is leaving he doesn't care anymore what's how is youtube gonna be able to maintain this are they are they they're banning people i mean it's gonna be the beginning of the end man the walls are closing in however there's a net there's a net a big positive all he'll still have his clips up yeah they might get more views but with his big show monday through uh was it monday through thursday every day at noon i think they upload if that's gone that means all those millions of people million plus for three hours looking for content i got political content right

here baby come over to my shop and we got uh we got whatever we want to talk about on our show imagine this way yeah imagine it imagine that you're like downtown and uh there's two ice cream shops and one is the biggest ice cream shop everybody loves it and they announce we're moving we're going different city you'd be like Yeah. Now I'm the only ice cream shopping town. Yeah. Not that I think we in any way compete with Rogan. I'm afraid not yet. But we'll get a little trickle from the Rogan viewers, you know,

who aren't watching on YouTube anymore. I guess we'll see how it plays out. Should we jump over now to Reagan on the UN? Yes, we should. Oh, gosh, this. This is going to be so fun. I retweeted this because it's so silly.

It's amazing. It's a culture war-y social justice kind even in everybody. How are you all doing? Yeah. UN takes heat for bizarre gender neutral

language code. Oh, man. Sometimes I think like we're out of the, you know, we've made it through the forest, through the desert, the culture war, the social justice, weird, insane stuff. Nope, it's just a ravine, and you fall back all the way down into a pit.

It's like you're climbing the last dune, and they're like, it's just over there. It's like, we've made it. You climb to the top, and then it's just like the Sahara. It's a mirage. Fall to your knees. It's still happening. It's worse.

This is the UN. So the UN tweeted out one of the stupidest things I have ever seen. The United Nations is taking heat after posting a bizarre new dictionary of gender neutral terms to replace more gendered words used in everyday life, with social media users expressing bewilderment and confusion at the language policing that in some cases appeared to backfire. Quote, help, here's what you say matters. Help create a more equal world by using gender neutral language. If you're unsure about someone's gender or referring to a group, unwomen.org. I love that.

I like that. Okay. Don't say mankind. Say humankind. So that's ridiculous. It's the same thing no human human

so what they're all equally stupid they're all this is awesome I want you all to know that when our government

gives money to the UN this is what they are funding yes wonderful I'm very glad to hear that don't say chairman say chair or chair that doesn't't say chairman. Say chair. Or chairperson.

That doesn't make any sense either. That makes no sense. The chair. The chair. I'm talking to the chair. I'm talking to the chair right now. Like, well, you're crazy. Yeah.

Why are you? You sit on chairs. Chairperson? Yes. See, that at least would make some semblance of sense. Look at this. Don't say congressman. Say legislator.

But that's not a legislator. That's not clear. That's not clear. And why can't't say congressman, say legislator. But that's not clear. And why can't you say congresswoman? Right. Isn't that what they do? Yes. Congresswoman and congressman. Yeah. Oh, it's because it's gender neutral. Because it might be a floor bow. Oh, I see. And you don't know. So it would be

congress floor bow. Duh. Wait, wait. Come on. It's easy. It gets really, really it gets so much better. Don't't say businessman say representative but representative refers to congress people yeah that doesn't congress persons that doesn't make sense either none of this dude dude dude wait don't say policeman say police officer okay so that's the first one that that's fine sure whatever but here's i usually say police officer anyway but Here's what I don't understand. Doesn't officer refer to ranking members? Hierarchy?

We can't have that. Isn't it like once you become a lieutenant, you're an officer? I'm not sure. Something like that. I guess they call all police officers. It's weird. I guess it means official duty. Yeah, I dig that. This next one's ridiculous. This is the best

one i'm excited oh my don't say landlord say owner okay that's it i'm done the un just told me to refer to my landlord as my owner let that sink in could you imagine what life would be like in the bronx or harlem south side of chicago technically you're my landlord right now. So you're what does that mean? I am your owner. No, no, no, no, no, no. Here's what I want you to do. Listen, listen, everybody, everybody, everybody. Here's what I want you to do. Go to New York, go to Chicago, go to the South side, go to Harlem and talk to someone about rent and ask the individuals who live there. Do you feel like your owner is treating you well? And see how they respond to that.

Wow, I didn't even think about that. That's brutal. You, as a well-to-do white person who was advised by the UN to refer to the landlords as owners, go to the minority communities and say, is your owner taking care of all of you? They're going to be like, what do you mean my owner? Yeah.

They're going to get punched in the face. Say that one more time. What did you say? Depending on what neighbor you're going to get. That's the most insane. This is really bad advice. It's dangerous. Could you imagine

being in Chicago and walking up to someone and being like, I'd like to talk to you about your owner. What, dude? That's amazing. No, that's bad. i love this one boyfriend a girlfriend say partner now this one is triggering you know why why because i once had a business partner in this project okay business partner i'm like what am i supposed to call him and so i was like you know talking to people and i kept saying you know my partner has set up you know the company and doing this and then someone was like it's it's so great that a gay couple can be out and open and i was like what i was like my business partner like it's a it's a human and we're doing a company together and they were like oh so i'm not gonna say the word partner anymore i'm out because it no longer

refers to me yeah it the connotation was changing and now they're trying to do this yeah they changed it one way now they want it back the rest of them are this is it's it's so hilarious man look at this don't say salesman say salesperson well why not just say congressperson or business person or police person right why why what you know well they're running out they're running running out of alternative things to say. Dude, somebody at the UN was like, a higher up came down and said, can you do something on like gender language? Like, yeah, we'll write something up. And they had no idea how any of it works.

And they were like, can you just give me some words? Why can't you say landlord? How is landlord gendered? You can say landlady. I've said that. What's wrong with that? Landlady. Yeah I've said that. What's wrong with that? Landlady. Yeah.

Wait, yeah. What's up with lord? Like, is it lords and ladies? I guess women's. What's the hierarchy? A woman can't be a lord? We're not. With a landlady.

That would be why you would say landlady. Dude, a landlord can be female. We just did a story. I agree. I just did a segment about this Antifa guy. Uh-huh. And it turned out his landlord was his grandma. Uh-huh.

All right. We say landlord. Yeah, exactly. Is lord male? Lords and ladies. Lords and ladies. Is it? it but it's like couldn't there be uh well i go to skyrim for example um one of the yarals is a woman and it's because her husband died and she became the yaral and it's like that's kind of the same thing as what i think is like a lord it would be you know if like the the male died and the woman became the lord then they pulled They pulled words out of hats.

That's what it is. They're like, they reached in, they're like, wait, wait, chair. No, no. They have one of those cylindrical like bingo things. Yeah, bingo.

And they're spinning it while, yeah, Spanish flea place. I got you. I got you. Is that what you were going to say? And there's two of them. There's two of them this time. Two.

And then he pulls one out and he goes, we have chairman. And then he pulls out pulls one out and he goes we have chairman and then he pulls out chair they mean two different things yeah roll with it let's go with it here it gets better don't say manpower say workforce but what's funny is manpower and workforce mean different things manpower is a reference to the the energy like expense you have from enough individuals manpower can refer to it means humans like if you said we don't have the manpower to move this this boulder that's a number of people if it's like could you imagine like we don't have the workforce to to move this boulder like the workforce that doesn't make sense like that's a

weird way of phrasing things one small step for what would you say i don't don't say horsepower say horse force horse force uh here's here's the next one this is just so dumb maiden name family name i mean adam what's your family name criggler no no your family name i i thought i answered what's your mom's family name sc Skoglund? No, your family name. You lost me. I don't know what you're talking about. Family name means your last name. That's why I said first and you said no. I know, that's the point. If

family name refers to both the maiden name and your current name, this makes literally no sense. Go to them and say, so what's your family name? It's like Poole. No, no, no, I mean your family name. My family name is Poole. I mean, like, before you were married. Oh, my maiden name.

Oh, yeah, okay. Hmm. Yes. Okay. You're not going to be able to change it. How can you have a word that means, like, a phrase that means something, it means two things that are contradictory? Right.

That's a good point. Because not everyone takes their husband's name like obviously this is about like being married and your maiden name is what it was before you got married right like nisha doesn't didn't take my name i don't care like it makes no difference to me yeah she still has her last name that's fine so if if you do change your name and then you're you're trying to say it family name, but you're already changed your name. She'd say Krigler. Which is another thing people are already upset about, too, because that's antiquated also.

It's like you're not owned by them. Taking names? Yeah, taking names. It's not like Mr. and Mrs. Adam Krigler. That's weird. That sounds weird to me. No, I don't think so. I think that's just your one family now.

And I think it makes a lot of sense. That would be your family name. The new family you just started. I would actually rather us both change our name when we've actually talked about it. Yeah, to something cool like Grand Smasher or Doomhammer or something. No, funny enough, it probably would be my mother's maiden name. There you go. Why?

Is it a cool name? Well, it was my grandfather. He just kind of raised me as when I was younger. Why don't we pick our own last names, man? Yeah, that'd be good. Like pool. Yeah, maybe. What if I could have something cool like, you know, like.

Like cool. Like world ender or something, you know, or like. Tim world ender. Death bringer. Sure. This is my family. We're the death bringers. The drowning pools.

Yeah, the drowning pools. the drowning pools we're the complicated oh I like that no that actually does the harumphs that actually makes sense that you'd start a new family and have a new family name that's funny but I think it actually makes sense like if you marry someone and have kids you're now a family unit

what's the name of your family yeah it's like your clan almost you know so this is just more nonsense. Husband and wife, say spouse. Why? No. Why? Who cares?

She is my wife. Well, I guess you could be in a gay relationship or something. Then you use spouse or your husband if you're in a gay relationship. Well, no, what they're saying is like if you're traditional or you're non-traditional, it's like whatever you want to do. Well, no, but what I think they're saying is that if I went to you and I don't know you and I said, is your wife coming? I'd be making an assumption about the gender of your partner. So that would make sense in that situation to use spouse.

Spouse? Is your spouse coming? Esposa. Is your esposa? Wait, that actually means wife. Esposa? Yeah. Esposo.

Is it? Yeah, male, I think. I don't know. That's my Spanish. The funniest thing about all this language stuff is that Spanish is like. Oh, yeah. It throws all this out the window. Do you know how they do like the X's?

Mm-mm. Latinx. Latinx. Like Kleenex. Mm-mm. Oh, okay. Just the way they say it. No, no.

So like, you know. The sound. Latino. Mm-mm. The progressives change the O's and the A's to X's. Okay. You can't speak Spanish that way. Mm-mm. Like, me parix, es me amigix. Mm-mm. Aggressives change the O's and the A's to X's. Okay. You can't speak Spanish that way.

Mm-hmm. Like, me parricks, es me amigics. Mm-hmm. No one's going to be like, what? You're not saying words. Gender is a huge part of that language. You can't just... Isn't it a big part of all romance languages, though? Yes.

Not English. Not every language. English is dramatic. Oh, yeah. That's right. That's right. Romance languages, yes. Yeah, yeah.

There's a male and female version of everything. Doesn't Swedish have like no gender or something? They have a third word for the people that don't aren't like his or her. And then the third. But isn't. Yeah. What do you mean? Like we have they.

No, no, no, no, no. They is plural. Like they doesn't make like we we've talked about it it doesn't make sense all the time it makes sense in the context of uh an individual that isn't is right specifically specifically but they have a word there's him her and the third floor bow essentially floor bow but it's it's been that's why i'm saying floor bow man y'all laughing at me y'all laughed at me floor bow ahead of his yo. We have a word that specifically references non-traditional gender.

Straight up. I don't gotta say it. I don't gotta say they. I just say Florbo. Florbo kind. Yeah, there you go. Chair Florbo. Boom. Congress Florbo. Boom. Police Florbo. Boom. Gender neutral. This is fun. I love it. Land Florbo. Fire Florbo. Fire Florbo.

Ooh. Water floor bow. It's got a good flow to it. I thought floor bow was like a funny like foofy fluffy word. It's soft. Yeah, it should invoke visions of cute puffy little marshmallow creatures that want to hunt you. When you first told me that

all I could picture was flubber. You see, there you go. You know what I'm talking about? The rubbery bounce. The squishy thing. Robin Williams. I was like, okay, that's a little silly, but sure. A little cute, jiggly little guy who bounces around. It's happy and bouncing.

I pictured flowers. It's floral. Right? Boom. Flowers. There you go. Nice and friendly. I imagine a puffy little marshmallow creature that wants to smile and give you a hug.

Okay. Yeah, that's cute. I'm like, how could anyone get mad? This was the ultimate solution in my opinion because the idea was like if they want you to say they or zeerser some people get offended by being told what to say yeah some people get offended by not being called the thing they want to be called the compromise is to make up a new word that has no connotations no connection to everything and i'm like there's a lot of words that might be too close to one thing.

I'm like, Florbo. Yeah, it's funny because that was the one thing I always said was like the they thing, they, them is confusing to a lot of people because we're taught it's a plural part of it. I mean, it is. I know. And it makes sense in very specific sentences like you explained. But we needed a new word to come up with something.

And Florbo probably wouldn't be what I came up with. But I can't. I didn't come up with anything. I wanted to be random. That's great. Random. And like nobody's used it as an insult or anything like that. People say it, you know, passively, kind of humorously.

It's like, yeah, the they thing is funny because I was I was talking recently recently i think with lydia about they them okay it's like it makes sense when you say a lawyer walks in the room uh they handed me a you know a briefcase right because you don't know if it's a male or female well actually if it was a reference to you you would say he or she because you know oh okay but if you said like a lawyer uh you know fell down the stairs at you know this office building they they broke both their legs because you don't know. But then what if you said like what was the sentence, the example? Something like, a lawyer

sold a customer a book. They charged them 50 bucks. If you then said, a lawyer sold a book and the cashier bagged it, they charged the customer 50 bucks. They is a reference to both of them, I guess. But that makes no sense. Would it be the cashier or who sold them? The cashier is the one who bagged it, they charged the customer 50 bucks. They is a reference to like both of them, I guess, but that makes no sense. Wouldn't be the cashier who sold them. The cashier is the one who bagged it. They, you don't learn anything. So in actual language, we would say a lawyer sold someone,

you know, sold the customer of the book, the cashier bagged it, the lawyer charged $50. You know what I mean? You go back to the proper, like the back to the description of it. Right. That's why I think the problem with the they stuff and this gender neutral stuff is like, it's almost like a child coming to you and being like, could you imagine a little kid, seven years old,

whose name is like, you know, Billy Wadsen. Okay. And he's like, no, from now on, my name is Hawk Battle Smasher. You'd be like,

your name is not Hawk Battle Smasher. That's stupid. No, it's cool. I'm Hawk Battle Smasher. It is pretty cool. I got it. Hawk Battle Smasher. That's stupid. No, it's cool. I'm Hawk Battle Smasher. It is pretty cool. I got it. Hawk Battle Smasher. Doom Hammer.

Yeah. Use Warcraft names. Seven-year-old. But it's like, that's a lot of what we're getting. Did you see that thing with the, I briefly mentioned, I like alluded to it, the deer person? Yeah. The person identifies as a deer?

Yeah, I know about this. Yes. I wanted to talk about it, but I don't know if I want to talk about it. Well, we're not going to show it, and we're going to be light on it because I'm fully prepared to get banned. You know what? I could say this, though. I was thinking about going on Twitch and not anymore. No way.

I have zero interest in streaming on Twitch. That's skewed me out. Yeah. A lot of people are asking me to stream games. I've been thinking about it. I did actually sign into – I got a Twitch account. streaming on twitch and i mean you'd me out yeah a lot of people are asking me to stream games like i've been thinking about it i i did actually sign into i got a twitch account i was prepped and ready and then this whole thing came out and i was like this is the person who's moderating twitch one of them like what twitch has always been bad all gamers are white supremacists what

yep get out of here i'm out of here that's what the deer person said. Yeah, I know. Exactly. Just telling the truth. And like these creepy videos where they're like moaning. It's crazy. And there's one video where the deer person was eating what looks like a nug of pot or something. Okay. It's just weird. You know what I think it is?

I'm totally prepared to get banned over this to talk about it. Oh, I love it. Go for it. This person, I love it. Go for it. This person, I believe it's voyeurism. Okay. What is that, voyeurism? It's like you get off on people watching you by either being humiliated or engaging in certain activities.

Oh, okay. So there are people who have a fetish for humiliation. Okay. So you think about what this person is doing. I think it's like a fetish. They go on camera and they make weird noises and they act completely in a messed up way. Because when I was looking at some of the statements made, because I think

the Daily Beast did a story about this deer person. Okay. They were into it. They were like, I want to do these videos. It was something that I thought would be embarrassing and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, yeah, they're, they're into this. They, they, they get off on this. That's not normal. They like it's, it's, it like. It's not normal, but to an extent, I'm fine with it. You know, if people have this thing. The problem is, this person seems to be. This is where we're going to get banned. I'm just going to say it.

Dive deep. Mentally ill. Completely. Yeah, you said that. We've talked about this before. No, but that's a bannable offense. Saying, like, this person is. And I'm not saying. You said, I think. No, no said that. We've talked about this before. No, but that's a bannable offense, saying, like, this person is. And I'm not saying.

You said, I think. No, no, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Like, the rules. I don't care. I'm going to say it because this needs to be said. This is not meant to be disrespectful toward this person. Voyeurism, I think, if people are into that stuff, that's fine.

Yeah. The issue is, this is someone who is unwell. And going on camera being like, people need to be afraid of me and now we can see that there are these they did say that yeah there are these companies here's what i think happens when people live in reality like when you live in the real world irl real world right when you walk into a job they're looking for a candidate and you know mr crickler walks in and they say look at this guy he looks like some you know hippie dippy candidate. And, you know, Mr. Krigler walks in and they say, look at this guy. He looks like some, you know, hippie, dippy, long haired, you know, are you a hippie? Oh, OK, well, you can have the job then.

And you walk in and you're like, hi, my name is, you know, I'm Tim. Nice to meet you. I'm here for the moderator position. They say, OK. But when you live on the Internet, you craft this shell over what you really are. Yeah. Persona. Yeah, a persona.

People don't see what you really are. OK. And so this gives opportunity for people who normally wouldn't be in these positions who are mentally ill and uh for in a variety of ways to now be in positions of power yep and then when they go on camera it it's devastating to your company so like i've had a lot of conversations about you know will we do this show on twitch and i've got to keep that very, very, very vague. The answer right now is an overwhelming and resounding no.

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Definitely not. So I don't know too much about this person, but I do know that there's an infiltration of people on trust and safety teams. Think about, you know, if you guys haven't seen these videos, you know, you can check it out. I'm not here to drag this person. I'm not going to say their name.

And maybe that's good enough not to get banned or whatever, to get a strike or something. But you can look this stuff up. I'm pretty sure there's other deer people out there. Deer floor bows. There must be many of them. Right? Yeah. Lots.

I don't know. I'm sure I don't know either. I had to take care of a bug. Anyway, you can look at what this person is doing. And then when you realize the kind of personalities, I'll put it that way, are moderating these websites. You also have to understand that it's these people who go on Twitter. And this person said something like voice chat is unfair. Yeah.

Unfair to like marginalized peoples and women or something. Right. And those rules get implemented because one person who is developmentally disabled gets power. It's crazy to me that Twitch, that Google, that Facebook are scared of this. Yeah, I don't get it. What's the line, man? What is there to be afraid of? Like, look, I understand there's a fear of, like, the fascist who says, like, you know,

do away with the invalids. Like, that's horrifying. We don't do that. We care about people. Right. We also don't put people who are developmentally disabled in positions of, you know, intellectual jobs. Like, there's a difference between saying, like...

I doubt that person's getting paid for their position. They're probably overjoyed to just have some power. Like, ooh, I've got power. I'm pretty sure it's a job. Because the rumor is that that person got fired. Oh, recently? Yeah, that's a rumor. It's happened?

No, I don't know. That's what people are saying. Okay. That this person has been fired. Well, they should be fired for the things that they were saying. It's ridiculous. That does not look good. I mean.

You should be scared of me. I have the power now. Should somebody be fired for saying stupid things on the internet? It's tough. If you're in a position that you're a moderator of something like Twitch, which is huge. Twitch is huge. That's where most of the gaming streams happen. So, yes, i think so if you're going to openly admit that you're

not going to be fair and you're clearly biased against most people that aren't you then yeah you should be fired that all gamers are white supremacists yeah that's ridiculous something something like that i don't i don't i think i think they said most gamers are white supremacists and we're saying and we're saying they because I genuinely don't know anything about this person other than they identify as a deer. That's true. And these videos are weird. So, you know, it's funny because I remember the conversations at, like, various organizations where it's like, don't say the word normal. And so it's like, how do you refer to an average person?

Average. Average, I guess. Yeah. So you say the average person. Without saying normal? You can't say normal normal is offensive what does normal mean what is normal you know yeah are you saying i'm not normal average you are not average right so we can protect marginalized communities but i'll put it this way

if somebody's in a wheelchair we create a wheelchair ramp yeah we don't give them a job you know as like a professional runner or like a hockey referee yeah yeah it's like makes sense or you know and and and even outside of that in more general understanding of biology i will never be in the nba there was there was there was like maybe a point zero zero zero zero zero one percent chance of me in my life following the right path to somehow make it in the NBA. I don't know. You got the leg muscles. I do.

I can jump really high. I can jump very high. But not like Muggsy Bogues, man. That dude was like, what was he, 5'3"? And he could 360 dunk? He was amazing. Presumably still is. I don't know anything about him.

But there's biological reality. You know, if you don't have legs, you're not going to be a leg model. So I think about it this way. When we see these people moderating for Twitch and other companies, it would be like taking someone who has a clear developmental disability

and being like, we're going to put you in as a chess grandmaster, as a chess player. And it's like, but that doesn't make sense. You wouldn't get an architect who can't architect you know and this is what we end up getting now here's the scariest thing to go back to this point is or i guess we can just ask why is youtube afraid of these people yeah why that's a good question why what is the reason you know because it's such a minority you know why?

They're the screamers. They're the ones that are reeing the loudest. Yeah, man. You know what it might be? It might be that regular people will just say, I don't care, I don't want to fight. Yeah, actually, this lines up. It's like this general idea.

So the way I've explained it before is, for those of you who are listening, you probably know Sargon of Akkad is. I love this because it's the most absurd way to frame it. Do you think Sargon of Akkad will form a large group of liberalists and march down a Twitter HQ with pitchforks demanding that, you know, they get reinstated, otherwise they're going to smash windows up? The answer is, of course not.

No way. He's a gentleman. Yeah. Yeah. Sargon, like, he's not going to lead any kind of, like, violent anything. He'll come down with a camera and a microphone and ask you questions and complain about his rights.

Will Antifa show up with crowbars and molotovs? Absolutely. Absolutely. So, these companies, no. Don't make Antifa angry. They're the ones who get violent. They'll come after you. And so that's who they bend the knee to. And then you end up with a trans-species deer person going on stream and saying people should be afraid of me because they're all white supremacists and stuff like that.

Oh, man. And that's the moderation we get. Yeah. Well, I am terrified. I'm out. You're out? That's it? No Twitch.

Well, and then you see the UN. It's also like. It's spreading. But it's fake. So it's a fake disease. It's kind of like.'s spreading. But it's fake. So it's a fake disease. It's kind of like... How do I explain it? It's like I'm imagining the color is slowly being drained from the room.

Like you're sitting in a room and in the corner it's like you have all these brilliant colors and then all of a sudden the colors... Everything starts turning black and white. And you're like, that is spreading. It makes no sense. Or it's like imagine your room starts turning... You see a splotch of weird tie-dye colors that's growing and growing and growing in your house. What the UN is saying here with these words makes literally no sense.

Like, so the UN's tweet saying, you know, don't say landlord, say owner. That clearly is the opposite of social justice to refer to someone who owns property as your owner. Regressing. My owner just raised my rent. That clearly makes no sense. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. And so what do you think would happen? Imagine this.

If someone was on stream and that was the rule they were enforcing. From now on, you can't say landlord. You got to say owner. You got to go on stream and you can't say that word. You got to refer to someone as your owner. That's weird. It's like not a real thing. I guess the easiest way to put it is there's no structure to any of it yeah it's like you ask any of these people what do you want me to do

and they'll say stop being a bigot and you're like please explain what does that mean nope i just get to call you a bigot and be upset whatever you do is wrong you should be afraid and i'm changing the rules every day you should be afraid of me is the easiest way to sum up what these people are and that's what that person said. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay. At least you're honest. Saying the quiet part loud.

Yeah. That's what they're thinking. Yeah. You should be afraid of me. It's like, I can only imagine somebody who's got a developmental disability who thinks their idea didn't fit in and is upset and now wants to flex that power against other people that's exactly what it is or some kind of power against other people yeah and then they get online and they start banning people and then these companies say but we're not biased at all there's no bias

yeah twitch is done man like you know they've already had a lot of problems with popular females who break the rules in such obvious ways. Yeah. Like there was one video, and I'll be very vague on this, but the assertion was that this woman did a nip slip. Oopsie. On accident? Oopsie. Sure.

Oh, no. I was trying to take something off. Then my, you know, don't ban me, please. And they get away with it. And then there was like one then there was one big thing. One of the reasons why I'm very averse to Twitch is there was apparently something happened where there was this gamers versus thoughts war.

Okay. When Twitch first started, it was built up by the gamer community. People who were like, we're going to stream games and we're going to have fun. And then a bunch of hot chicks realized they could... Thoughts? Yeah, thoughts. They could do this thing where, I think that might be bannable too, to be yeah thoughts they could do this thing where i think that that might be bannable too to be honest but they did this thing where they were like you

can sit in a chair leaning back with your leg spread and like then lean forward to the camera so you can see cleavage and they would get money yeah and so this started breeding this and twitch leaned into it like hey we're making loot you know yeah and the gamers got mad about it and so apparently this one guy, I don't remember a whole lot of the story, made a video calling this out and he got banned from Twitch. Wow. And the women he was calling out

that were breaking the rules didn't get banned. Seems fair. Yup. Twitch is, it's Amazon now though, but man, we're, man, things are bad. Maybe Spotify will be better. That sounds pretty good. I'm pretty excited to see what Spotify is doing.

But I'd be surprised if they have an open upload for videos. But if they did, I'd totally sign up right now. I'd just upload everything right now. I'd love to get this. Yeah. Well, what's the next one? Should we do the Batwoman? Aliens?

What should we talk about? We'll jump to Super Chats. Yeah, let's jump to Super Chats. Say what up to everybody. We'll talk the Batwoman? Aliens? What should we talk about? We'll jump to Super Chats. Yeah, let's jump to Super Chats. We'll talk about Batwoman. Considering we're on a social justice tear. The UFO is not spinning. Please, allow me. The UFO.

For those that are listening, Adam is now using the electric duster to spin the UFO to make sure people are satisfied. There you go. That should be enough. That's for you, chat. We are now going to head over to Super Chats. If you haven't already, smash that like

button, just bash into your table. No, I'm kidding. But hit the like button, it really does help. Rest in peace, keyboard. Hop into Super Chats if you'd like to. I guess that would be the mouse. I gotta be completely honest with all of y'all. We got over 12,000 current viewers. Oh, wow.

Nice. Very grateful, everyone, for being here. I don't know if we'll be able to get to every Superchat because of that. So we still have... I really want to talk about Batwoman because we're on the social justice tier. Oh, yeah. It's basically in line with that. We were supposed to talk about aliens.

Oh, man. Aliens are so cool. I think last week, right? It was like... Yeah. Someone even said, like, weren't they supposed to talk about aliens? We just talked about social justice. week right it was like yeah someone even said like weren't they supposed to talk about aliens we just i think it was friday actually yeah it's friday navy fighter jets that locked onto a ufo yes oh i want to hear about this yes i saw the article

but we didn't read into it so i was like oh man we got to talk about batwoman next though oh goodness all right let's see kyle buchanan says just order the new shirt tim you make too much content i get off at five and the stream starts at seven for me i i want to watch all your vids and watch here i do it's uh i think i think i put out three hours and 40 minutes every day christian says awesome show last friday keep it a great job i'll keep sending the money appreciate it i just want to Someone just mentioned they bought a shirt. I just want to shout out to Wombat Crusader. Thank you very much for that design. You sent it

to me earlier today and within four hours you had sent me the graphic and we turned it into a t-shirt and you can actually all check it out. You can buy it right now on the Teespring. If you just look below at the merch link and you can get it. It's the Harumph I Say

t-shirt with him. It's genius. It's me in a tuxedo. It's so good. So thank you very much. That was amazing. It's me in a tuxedo with a pipe

with bubbles coming out of it and it says Harumph I Say and I have a monocle and it's a brilliant, brilliant graphic. Very condescending looking and I love it. It's wonderful.

Thank you very much. You just click it and go to the store and you can see it if you want to get it. So that was some fan art and I really appreciate it. Yeah, it's awesome. Thank you very much it's just you just click it and go to the store you can see it if you want to get it so that was some fan art and i really appreciate yeah it's awesome thank you very much and uh hopefully to make one for you yeah yeah so i jesus no he's gonna do it i talked to him about it so he's he's gonna he's probably working on it right on mark says ivanka 2024 first female president i think it's strong possibility

we'll see peter watkins y'all skipped me yesterday but a number of states suspended the right to to a speedy trial and now inmates from michigan and other states are filing to be freed based on due process rights wow it's all just breaking apart i suppose yeah ward spose says you're all great keep up the good work we will thank you kyla says newsom said first responders are first fired without federal relief for the 5454 billion debt. Bought first skateboard today. Thoughts on carbon fiber decks? Interesting. You tried one?

Technically, yes. I've carbon fiber decks myself. It's like a sheet that you kind of apply. I don't know if it's a full carbon fiber board. Probably some flies, as I imagine. That's interesting. I've only ever carbon fibered a board and skated it, and it adds like extreme rigidity. So it's very, very stiff.

It probably has really good pop. That would be good as a base layer for a bamboo board. Probably. Yeah, it lasts forever. Yeah, yeah. Interesting. All right. Ben Ritter says, YouTube has been my place for watching people like Rogan almost exclusively.

I don't know if I can even remember to follow him anywhere else. We'll see. Also, play Election Year Knockout. Yeah, can you take that note down and we'll look at it? Election Year Knockout. Diteg says, Just bought Mr. Robot. Any thoughts on the series?

It seems like hackers talking to the establishment and China would be right up your alley i tried watching i saw the first season yeah i liked it and i didn't like it i tried watching one episode and it was just it made no sense so i just stopped i'm like i don't i don't know what this is man yeah i don't remember i kind of just stopped watching it so it must have been not good enough to keep my attention yep winter says hey guys holy cows please discuss the biden ukraine leaked call that surfaced today donald trump jr retweeted it it sounds fake that's why i did not cover it it sounds fake i didn't listen to it so i don't know fake fake listen man there's a phone call and these videos get released it was apparently leaked by an mp in Ukraine, and it was picked up by the Kyiv Post. There haven't been any US mainstream outlets

that are picking it up, probably because some journalists are probably working to vet it. Many can't, and many refuse to. I would say most refuse to because it would make Biden look bad. However, I listened to the calls. Good point.

And it doesn't sound real, man. Like at one point, Poroshenko, allegedly Poroshenko says he's the former president of Ukraine. He's like, you know, he's like, Joe, it's great to hear your voice. You know, it's always a pleasure. You know, as discussed, I reached out to former, you know, prosecutor Shokin. And despite there being no evidence of corruption, you know, he agreed to resign. And I'm like'm like well why would he say that that's like not a thing unless it's possible he knew that joe biden was shaking him down so he made sure he recorded the call and he made sure to say as clearly as possible what was happening that could be the

case yeah maybe so like is it authenticated is it a real undoctored phone call here's what's weird about it normally when you're hearing a recording yeah where one person's in the room and one person's on the phone okay there's there's an a noise a buzz or a static or an air when the person on the phone is talking no like always oh okay so you hear like a yeah just like the white noise yeah some white noise the weird thing about this this video is that poroshenko talks then then biden, and there's white noise in him talking, and the white noise disappears. That sounds like it was an edit. So it sounds doctored. It does.

I'm not saying it is for sure. It could be that he put it on mute or something when he was talking. I don't know. But it'll have to be authenticated. Yeah. You know what I could probably do? And I'll do this later. I can take the audio files from YouTube and put them in and see if it looks

like there was digital manipulation because I can see that. And we'll look into it. But I'm seeing a lot of people are talking about it. For now, it's not corroborated. I'll do my best and we'll see what we can uncover. I listened to it. I didn't think it sounded real. Okay, let's see where we're at.

Blake says, if YouTube goes belly up, what's your backup plan? Van? River river down by the yes chuck morris says spodcast the beanie son texas bound mexican and cheese gov covid response equals stanford prison experiment maybe i don't know david caballeros hey adam is nut milk not milk it's milk it's not milk i mean it, not milk. It's milk. It's not milk. I mean, it's not milk, but I mean, it's... It's a creamy, delicious drink. Yeah, I mean, it's funny. The milk industry has been fighting

to make it illegal to call other things milk because they're losing so much business. I'm just over here laughing. Yeah. Whatever. I stopped the dairy last week. Yeah, you did. You stopped dairy.

You noticed. I've been feeling better than ever. Yeah, totally. And a lot of people are going to be like, no, Tim, don't do it. She's great. So I had chicken tacos today with grilled onions and avocado. Delicious. But I cut out the dairy because i'm partially lactose

intolerant and i was thinking like i get by barely you know as it is drinking lactate and stuff okay and when we're on the road trip i didn't have access to that stuff and so yeah not fun oh so i'm partially like well i'm glad I wasn't stuck in the van. Oh, yeah. Oh, definitely. Looking at you. So when I got back, I was like, you know what, man? Once this cheese runs out, I'm just not going to buy anymore.

I'm not gonna buy more milk. We get rice milk or almond milk or something. Awesome. And I feel like a million bucks. Nice. Yeah, it's great. And it's like it's it's immediately obvious within like two or three days. All of a sudden, I just feel a million times better.

Nice. So I wonder. Really happy for you. I've also been skating every single day yeah we've been skating a lot but i'm but i actually think that's uh a causation yeah because i used to skate one day and then be too wiped out the next day to skate and so i would do intervals now i skated five days in a row straight every day and i feel like a million bucks yeah it could be the exercise consistently true and i'm just getting more and more you know amped up but I feel like you know just cutting it out

and trying to eat and drink better stuff is just healthier no matter what so it could be partially psychosomatic but I don't think so like I usually set my alarm like I gotta get up at 7 I don't think so either I woke up at 5.30am like I slept for 5 hours and I'm like I feel great Beanie's charged

Beanie's charged Evan Yeah, Beanie's charged. Yeah. MNS says, Tim, I know that left the faith a long time ago, but did you receive confirmation? If so, you qualified to become Pope. I was never confirmed. I stopped going to Catholic school at the end of fifth grade, went to sixth grade in public school. Kyle Buchanan says, question to all. If aliens are real, but only single cell,

how would you feel and react when we found them on other planets? I wouldn't be surprised at all because that's what I'm assuming. Don't we already know that there are microbes that are in space or something? That can live in space, but I don't know if we've found living microbes elsewhere. Yeah, I don't know. But I'm sure, like, Titan has got oceans of methane. You know, Ganymede is like a frozen moon with oceans underneath the surface. Is that Ganymede?

Is it Ganymede? Might be Titan or whatever. No, Titan's methane. It's like oceans of methane. Oh, that's right. That's right, because we play Destiny. That's true. Oceans of methane.

They were accurate on that. I don't know. Maybe it's Io. No, I's right. That's right, because we played Destiny. That's true. Oceans of Methane. They were accurate on it. I don't know. Maybe it's Io. No, I think it's... It might be Ganymede. Yeah, that ice moon. I don't know. Do you want to look it up?

I can look it up. But, I mean, even still, we haven't seen in these deep oceans, and we're still finding species today on Earth that are living in places that we were like, nah, they can't live there. Extremophiles. And they're living there. That iron snail. Yeah, exactly.

It's so cool. It's like, we're still like, oh, they can't live there. Extremophiles. And they're living there. That iron snail. Yeah, exactly. It's so cool. It's like we're still like, oh, how is this even alive here? That doesn't make any sense. What? We think we're so smart. Yeah, exactly. We know exactly what life is. I remember when I was little, they told me in school that here's the things you need

for life. And I remember reading it. I'm like, this is just describing us. Oh, Europa. Thank you. Thank you, Chad. Europa. It's Europa.

Yes. Man, I should have known that because I watched Cowboy Bebop. Oh, Europa. Thank you. Thank you, Chad. Europa. It's Europa. Yes. Man, I should have known that because I watched Cowboy Bebop. Yep. Yeah. Anyway, let's read some more. Chad's the best. Judas Romo says, how do you feel about Twitch, dear lady? Oh, we went into that.

Oh, we did. I'm going to get in trouble. Oh, man. Joe Ward says, last time I saw Joe Rogan ratioed this bad, Tim Pool had to come bail him out. Did he get ratioed over the leaving youtube thing oh i don't know oh oh on on twitter maybe cal miller says when cali collapses states should pass laws that prevent people moving from cali they already destroyed their state they should not destroy another not all of them build a wall around california you know one of my favorite memes

is uh or just get the fault to just push it out to see it. Have you seen the fake Trump tweet where it's a red line around the southern border, but then it goes up and around New Mexico? No. And Trump says, New Mexico. He's like, we're building a wall around New Mexico because I'm still trying to get rid of the old... Or he's like, New Mexico, I'm still trying to get rid of the old ones or something like that.

Okay. It's hilarious. And there's like a fence going around New Mexico. Nice. Didactic says, did you see the audio leak of biden's conversation with the ukraine official about getting the prosecutor fired huge news that we'll see so the only thing i noticed in it was that he said you know despite there it was something to the effect of despite there being no evidence of corruption you know he's tendered his resignation and then biden said and then he said and then porshenko says presumably it's porshenko i you know i hope that shows I've kept my word and upheld my end of the bargain.

And then Biden says, I agree. And it just doesn't seem like it. It doesn't seem real. Brea, thanks for coming to member. Thank you. Wolf Spain says, hey, Tim. Hey, Tim. Hey, Tim, did you see that the world politics Reddit evolved into a Warhammer and Star Wars

post crusade? Cool. Yeah, it was anime boobs before. Then it became real boobs. Now it's Warhammer and Star Wars post-crusade. Cool. Yeah, it was anime boobs before. Then it became real boobs. Now it's Warhammer. Awesome. Perfect. The final evolution.

And Star Wars. Star Wars. Just another guy says, check Naboo leaks for Biden corruption tapes. Darth Typhoon. Typhon, thanks for the super chat. Chet Chisholm says, I work in emergency medicine

in a publicly funded healthcare system. I have a very different view compared to you with regards to it. If you want, I can outline this view with stuff I send Adam. Yeah, do it to it.

Send Adam. No, he sent me a bunch of stuff. I've got it. No, no, no. I'm just saying everybody else. Oh, to everybody else. Yeah, follow Adam because you can send him stuff.

Hey, there's my link or whatever, my stuff. Your handle? You can find me in places. Just type me up and you can find me. And then whatever you send to Adam, sometimes it makes it to the show. Send me things. Yes, and smash that like

button and follow me as well. And share. We're going to start posting some skate videos soon. We had a pretty epic sesh. Adam's just, his progress on the mini ramp is just too beast. I can't keep up. It's like, I'm doing pretty good. I'm getting my sea legs back. I've always been a big fan of ramps, though.

Yeah, I've mostly been a street skater, ledge, flat, and stairs and stuff. But I used to be pretty good at ramp. I just got to get back used to it. But every day, it's like, Adam did a blunt finger flip. Yeah, I did. It's like, dude, I'm trying my hardest over here. I still can't believe I landed that. I can.

You did it twice today already. You were like, I'm just going to throw it in my run. Yeah, that's true. But still, it's like I had no idea. Man, it was. I got to turn the heat up. That's why I'm skating every day. And maybe one day you'll see me on like a broken arm or something.

It's definitely the hardest thing I've ever done on a skateboard. I'm so happy I have that ramp, dude. It's like a dream come true. Me too, man. Yeah, my owner has this awesome ramp in the backyard. Oh, my gosh. I don't like that. No, the Undertowns are too much.

All right, all right. No. Children, where were we at? I don't know. Ceylon says, context, Glazer of it. Did you see that the NYT coined the term she-cession and blamed 55% women's unemployment in April on Google's cut of diversity?

Oh. Yikes. So i did a video about this activist who works at nbc okay who like basically complained that google was shuttering diversity all right and then a bunch of democrats wrote a letter and now this you know activist is cheering along with their like activist friends and like she wrote this smear piece of me arguing that i wasn't calling her an activist and i'm like dude you're cheering for ideological policy positions being implemented like that's an activism when google shuttered the versity thing i didn't cheer or i didn't say good or bad i was

just like google did i wonder why it's interesting i talked about james damore closing a suit i wonder if they're related that's about it so it's like that's the difference activist versus journalist i suppose or political commentary finance cultural commentary she's session wow chuck morris says so what happened with satellite radio howard yeah that flopped i was actually thinking that i mean he still does his show doesn't he howard stern yeah yeah but he's still like what what's well you know what you know it's crazy i used to listen to him but he's ragging he said something like trump supporters like what did he sayging. He said something like Trump supporters.

Like, what did he say? I hate you or something like that. He said horrible things recently about Trump supporters. It's so weird. What happened to these edgy people who are now all of a sudden like inversion? Rock step, man. I mean, it's Howard Stern. Hasn't he said horrible things about everybody?

But it's an inversion of his character. Like, isn't he the guy who would like fire hot dogs at women's tits i think so something like that probably and what what because of that really you don't think so i'm talking about howard stern that's totally normal stuff that people have been talking about for a long time i get it youtube is very pretentious but uh he used to do a ton of weird stuff like that right yeah his studio many many many weird things yeah and now all of a sudden he's got a problem with with trump supporters like he's on a high horse you know that's what it is i see how it is these these these people like to you know the media people like jimmy kimmel and fallon or whatever it's kimmel who does this they make these videos

where they find the stupidest people and make a video about it and then all these people are too dumb to realize the truth over facts thing is the perfect example yeah like trump makes fun of biden and the media doesn't know any or understand or even research so it's like a bunch of tweedledees and tweedledum all laughing and going like like trump is so dumb he said truth over facts and meanwhile the trump supporters are like that's he's making fun of joe biden yeah but they're not smart enough to get the joke yep so that's what you get. The left can't meme. It's funny.

There's a subreddit called The Right Can't Meme where it really looks like they make. Yeah. It's because Reddit's become propaganda. Yep. And it's like you look at the subreddit and I'm pretty sure they make fake memes because I've never seen them. Yeah. MIT Technology Review, man, don't take my word for it.

They said 4chan and the Donald are the most prolific progenitors of memes. Yeah. That go viral on Twitter and all these other websites. It's always been 4chan. That was always the joke that 4chan would make something, Reddit would take it, and then it would go viral. Often when viral videos would emerge, it'd be 4chan. Yeah.

But now they're desperate to claim they're cool. Here's the funny thing about propaganda sites and like subreddits that say the right can't meme it's like who are you trying to convince yeah yourselves yeah desperate looks on anyone is not a good look i'll tell you what it's not a good look the right is several orders of magnitude better at memeing than the left so i've noticed yeah and it's it's not even about whether or not they can or can't. It's about if someone on the right posts a meme, I laugh.

If someone on the left does, I'm confused. Yeah. I'm like, I don't get what you're trying to say. That's not funny. Or you get it and it's just bad. Joe Biden called Trump president Tweety.

Yeah. Was that how he said Tweety? Yeah, I think so. Yes, that's what he said. I'm like, bro, that's not even relevant. I guess if you're in your 70s, you grew up watching Looney Tunes. He does tweet. You know? if you're you know in your 70s you grew up watching looney tunes he does tweet you know so you're like tweety bird i'm gonna make fun of

trumpy biden tweets too what i mean biden not biden quotes sure but right now the right is calling him sleepy creepy uncle joe right and it's funny like we understand what's right and accurate you know what people i think what the left doesn't get about memes is that memes are a zip file for an occurrence or an idea. Yeah, okay. That makes sense. So every time Trump called Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas, what he was doing was giving a zip file of an idea to all his supporters in that moment where it invoked this, all

of the negative history of Elizabeth Warren pretending to be Native American. Right. So that one word brought all those memories back. And so naturally for the left, not being able to understand or comprehend, they were like,

he's just trying to insult her because he's racist. It's like, no, he's bringing back all of the news stories to remind people of why she's a bad person. Yeah.

Or when, you know, you say sleepy, creepy Uncle Joe, people know that Biden falls asleep on TV. He can't speak straight. He touches people inappropriately. And Uncle Joe is a reference to him being a pedo. Yep. So now we're getting banned.

There we go. All right, let's keep going. We're just hitting up everything. We're just going to go for it. Jen McMahon says, I do like the visual aspect of YouTube, but I'm fine with podcasts becoming the new AM radio. Okay.

ATK says, how is the view from the alt-right adjacency ever figure that out yet? I don't even know what alt-right means anymore because it's like not even necessarily right wing. Alternative to the right. So that woman called me far right adjacent. Yeah. And I'm like, that just means right wing. Like, what is that supposed to be? Far adjacent your center adjacent what what it's it's it's their way of

saying far right in the sentence yeah to put it in there but not not actually call you right yeah exactly far right far rights whatever jeremiah says 45 minutes straight then 17 at the end last night what is that reference to i'm not not sure. No idea. Talbot says, Skill, it's complicated. Level up and became. It's more complicated than that. It's true. Definitely.

You dropped it. Yep. Joey Virtue says, Love the show. I'm curious about how you three stand on guns for self-protection, home defense. Also, what state in the US

would you three move to? You go first. I'm for guns. I understand the need to protect yourself in, you know, areas that aren't congested. I mean, even in those kind of areas, there are hotheads that are crazy. And anyone can go crazy at any point, honestly. And it's like, I don't know. Yeah, I'm for guns. Honestly, it's more for more for like hunting and protecting yourself

if you need me but you know it makes sense if we're gonna live off the land you know hunting's part of it i mean obviously i'm vegan so it's kind of weird to hear a vegan talk about hunting but you know not everybody is vegan so i understand the need to get your own food and i think that's a big part of it and yeah yeah, home defense. It's like, I mean, we were living in Miami and we weren't necessarily out in the country country. We were like an hour outside Miami and someone broke into our backyard and was like looking around with a flashlight.

And I mean, we didn't know who this person was. What if they had a gun? What if they were coming at us to like steal our stuff? It's like we were not close. Like if we called the police like they probably wouldn't have been there 40 minutes yeah i mean who knows how long it would take for them to get there so we also had those reports of the home invasion exactly some people somebody got murdered oh even worse right so like what were we doing we took your airsoft rifle

that we had there you actually we had a a handheld pistol version of it too yeah and we were standing on the back porch like, who's out there? Well, I cracked it and dry fired. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right. That was an aggressive. That was a good 22. It was, yeah. Yeah.

And then you know what happened? The person left. They ran off. He ran off. Weird. He didn't come into our house. I went out and I screamed and I went bang. Right.

And they were gone. Tim's screaming. You know, but I screamed and I went bang. Right. And they were gone. Tim screaming. You know, so, but I've been, I've been criticized for that too. And I'm like, look, man, I did what I did at the time situation. I didn't know what the right thing to do was. Yeah. Some people have said like, you got to be careful. Like, you know, that could have alerted them to then like maybe sneak up and attack you

or something. And I'm like. They were coming at our property. They were snooping on my property, on our property. Yeah, exactly. It was a big, it was a five acre property. We had neighbors and all property yeah exactly it was a big it was a five acre property we had neighbors and all that

but it was like it was you know when you were in the in the back by like there's like a barn building yeah you're

it's like yeah what do you do a big open field you can't you can't even get back there normally and someone you have to like

find your way in someone jumped over like a six foot fence with also plants growing around we never opened yep and they were snooping around

looking in the barn and stuff and we saw the light flickering it was like midnight you're making a pizza yep and so i was like yo yo and i was like dude what and we all saw it and we were like whoa dude yeah so i was like i grabbed it was like a remington i think and i went broke the barrel went outside went hey bang and then rustling running yep over the fence and gone yeah exactly and so i was talking to some friends about it feel the same way i do then yeah absolutely yeah and i was explaining to my friend who said you know told me that there's no reason it's a liberal hollywood type there's no reason for anyone to ever have a gun and i was like let me tell you a story yeah i told the story and i

said what should i have done like if i didn't have a weapon and i was like it wasn't even it wasn't even a real and they and they did have a weapon not that we know that they did or not but there's a high probability that they did have a weapon and what if they were coming to rob us you know and maybe they heard the shot and we're like it's not worth it because i don't want to get shot you know they might have still had a weapon exactly so i you know i asked this there's no good answer it's like oh well call the police they'll be there in 40 minutes. It's like, well, if all guns were gone, then you wouldn't have to worry about it anymore. Can't stop them.

Exactly. You can't stop them. People can 3D print a gun now that's viable. It's not a one-shot, crack, boom, it's done. It's like, replace the mag, keep shooting. It looks like a vector submachine gun. It's probably not as fast, but... Shotguns make sense, you know, for like home defense stuff.

But ultimately, it's like... Shotguns do make sense because you can hunt certain kinds of deer, or not deer, doves and stuff. I just mean for home defense. But you can also use it as home defense. Like Dave Chappelle said, birdshot, birdshot, buckshot, birdshot. Birdshot, buckshot. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, so this idea that we could just call the police, I was like, the nearest store for us to buy food was a gas station. Yeah, it was at least 15 minutes. Oh, no, the gas station, right. No, it was seven miles away. No, there was a liquor store that was a mile. Oh, okay. That was the only thing, though. When I wanted to get milk or something, it'd be like, the gas station is seven miles away.

So what do you think is going to happen if you call the police? They're going to be like, well, reach out to somebody. They can be there in 20 or 30 minutes. There's someone in my backyard. I can't see them. They're looking around in my barn with a flashlight. Okay. What do you want to see?

Are they armed? I don't know. I can't see them. You know what the cops would probably say? Do you have any weapons in the home? That's true. I do. Get it. That's true't, can't see that. You know what? You know what the cops would probably say? Do you have any weapons in the home? That's true. Get it. That's true.

That wouldn't surprise me. When somebody came here at four in the morning, I mean, when we're in Jersey, the cops came and they were like, we're going to, we're going to take care of everything. Yeah. And one of the guys, one of the cops was like, you know, sitting there listening. And then I was like, I called you guys as soon as I could. And the guy goes, if it were me, I would answer the door with my shotgun. And I was like, so I should get a shotgun. He's like, if it were me, I would answer the door with my shotgun. And I was like, so I should get a shotgun?

He's like, if it were me, I'd answer my door with a shotgun. He didn't answer the question, but he made a suggestion. He answered the question. And so I did. But they gave me the runaround at the local department about getting a weapon. And to be honest, it's kind of like my fault for not going and following up. That worked too much. But I went there, and they did not make it easy.

And they told me to fill in. To get a gun. To write an essay. All right. So what in the States? Where would I live? West Virginia. We were talking about West Virginia.

Every time I see the River Shenandoah, I just get all happy for some reason. It's a cool place, man. I start singing Country Roads in my head. I was a Fallout fan for a long time, so I still am. West Virginia has got good internet in certain areas. And it seems like a good place

to start something up. Yeah. I mean, but there's no airports. There's no big... There are. Just not big ones. True. It's not like we could eventually have guests normally we could but it would be like original plan you fly to dc then you fly on the regional you know a little tiny hey man joe's talking about going to texas people will go if they want you know texas has got plenty of big cities and big uh airports yeah it's true

it's rich we drove through it's funny there's like the northern strip of West Virginia that's like 40 miles. It's like you just like right through it. I thought we were going through the heart of West Virginia when we drove to L.A. And it's like we drive through and I'm like, oh, we're in West Virginia. Wow. We'll check it out. It's like we're not in West Virginia anymore. Right when you thought that. Now leaving West Virginia.

That's funny. You know, I grew up. We're both from Chicago. Yeah. And the crazy thing about Chicago is that for the longest time it was outright illegal to own guns.

Like, I mean. In the city. Yeah, it was like, it was really, really difficult to do anything with guns. They were like, it was legal technically. Yeah.

And they got really mad when the Supreme Court struck it down, being like, saying you can't ban these weapons and stuff. Right. But there was a story

of a woman from Tennessee who had, I think, like a revolver. She went to the Sears Tower. Yeah. Or the Willis Tower. Whatever. It's the Sears Tower. She was some old lady in her 60s. OG Chicagoan, Sears Tower.

She's an old lady. She has a legal permit for the weapon in Tennessee. She was on vacation. She just drove up. She went to the tower. They have a metal detector. They said, do you have any weapons? She goes, I do. I have my revolver. They said, do you have any weapons? She goes, I do.

I have my revolver. They arrest her on the spot. Last I heard, she got four years. What? Really? Yeah. That's what I heard. I knew a dude who was, this is the story I was told.

That's sad. I feel bad for her. So this is an anecdote that somebody told me. It's not like I pulled up the records, but there was a dude who lived in California and had legal weapons. And he was driving across the country. Right. And he got pulled over in Illinois. And the cop said, you have weapons.

I do. He was driving through Illinois on his way to the East Coast. And the cop said, you know, open it up. Saw that the guy had some rifles and some handguns. And he's like, you're under arrest. Felony possession. And he got four years. What?

I have family members that ill that live in illinois that have guns and they're they're legal they even have a concealed carry and there's and and there's even supposed to be like laws about you know safe transport yeah dude got railroaded didn't care it's ridiculous they i think they accused him of like trying to sell weapons or something they were like nope we don't believe you you have too many and he was like i'm i'm not even staying in illinois and i don't care no he ended up getting probation though so they were like suspended sentence probation so it's crazy because now it's like the dude had to live in illinois yeah it's like he gets out and they're like you live here now for the next four years and he was

like what what am i supposed to do who's to live in illinois now i can make some points about why i think what happened happened and i think what do you what do you know about illinois only what tim's told me and driving through there i can't oh dude not a fan at all because they'll pull you over and then you're in deep trouble i've had cops plant weed in my car all right oh yeah i still have lots of good memories of illinois and i like illinois still so watch your mouth i'll just i'll just leave it at this this This dude. And again, this could be apocryphal. It could be what it could have been lying to me, but this is what I heard from this guy. He was a skater and he was not white and he got pulled over in the South,

Southern Illinois. All right. So I'm not saying that's necessarily why, but like, it's what, you know, the story ended up being right. Yeah. So I'll tell you what, man, I've had cops pull me over at gunpoint in chicago when i was covering nato protests with a bunch of my friends yeah search the vehicle they raided our apartment tried they tried to plant they tried to use a criminal informant or a confidential informant to plant drugs in our car jeez and i know this this is confirmed well there's good cops and bad cops and nb, when we got raided, when they surrounded us at gunpoint, we filmed and gave it to local NBC who aired it. Oh, wow.

That video's up. You can look up the video. It's from NBC News. Dang. And yeah, it's funny. We came back to the apartment. Lights were on. Doesn't sound funny.

Cops had been there. It's messed up. Funny, not funny, ha ha funny. I'm like, whoa, that's weird. You know what I mean? Okay. Like funny, strange. Yeah.

They searched our vehicle. I think I know what they were trying to do. So long story short, somebody shows up to the apartment we're staying at because they were staying there too. It was someone we knew. Okay. And asks if they can come with us because we're leaving. We're like, we're GTFOing.

We just got surrounded by cops. It was nuts. We don't want to mess around. They had just, you know, black-sided 10 guys like i think it was 10 guys i don't know how many people it was a bunch of people filmed the cops and then all of a sudden disappeared and then they got ended up getting charged with terror terrorism like a small handful of them okay so we were like we're not going to stick around to find out we don't know what happened so this dude tries coming and then i set a bunch of rules i said because of what just

happened we are going to everything's going to be meticulous. No one is bringing anything perishable. You got vitamins? Flush them. Garbage. Don't care. Yeah. The only thing coming in this are hard items like clothing, your computers, your equipment.

Yeah. And no one is going in the apartment but me. And I was with Luke Rutkowski. I was like, me and Luke, because we are both, you know, public figures. Yeah. If anything happens, we can, we have a better chance of mustering a defense so this dude tries going in the house arguing that he needs to grab something later it turned which i said no absolutely not and he was like i really he's really pressuring me and then uh i ultimately said if you go in that house you

will not get in our vehicle and he said fine the next day it turns out a con uh who we believed to be was a police informant kept begging him to bring drugs into our car. And he was going to do it. But they were saying things like, please just grab this for me. I just need this. Just grab it so I can pick it up from you tomorrow. In Illinois, there's mandatory drug sentencing if we had that in our vehicle. So I wonder if that had something to do with us getting pulled over. I ultimately don't know.

But I saw the text messages where the person wow was like do this dang and he was he was saying stuff like i can't they're not letting me it's like please you have to do this for me you have to do this now you wouldn't do it that's chicago man i don't want to i'm not gonna mess around i know i know the secret uh mobster handshake in chicago old school Chicago. Do they still use it? I have no idea, but I know it used to be a thing. Like back in the day, you'd like walk up and, you know, the guy standing the bouncer and you just like walk him, give him the handshake, give him the specific handshake and he'll let you in. No way.

Keeping that close. That's right. Keeping that close. I'll show you after the show if you want. All right. Yeah. All right. We got to get through all show you after the show if you want. All right. Yeah. All right. We got to get through all these Super Chats.

We got too much. So I hate to do this to you guys, but I think we're going to have to start speeding things up because we talk too much. And that's kind of the point of the show. But we do have two more segments I want to hope to get to. I hope to get to. Maybe we'll just do aliens next. I'm down for just Super Chats.

I love talking to everybody. They're great. We promised talking about aliens on Friday and we didn't get to it. I mean, we can just keep pushing it back, man. I don't mind. You're letting people down. Let's read. Deacon Blue says, Tim, bald is beautiful.

You're beautiful, Tim. Thank you. The One says, saddest part of my day. I'll leave it there. Stick around. Next segment will be tomorrow at 10 a.m. on this channel, and I will see you then. Aw. Thank you.

That's sweet. Matthew Emmond says, will we see more or less of Alex Jones on Joe Rogan? I'd imagine more, actually. Because this deal is probably super safe for Joe. It's one of the reasons he did it. He's probably like, I can do whatever I want. I mean, the temperature on YouTube right now is, it's, I don't

know. How many times have we been like, oh, we're banned. Yep, exactly. Oh, we're banned. I know, exactly. We referenced Howard Stern's show. Joe gets, he talks about way crazier stuff than we do you know and he swears all the time yeah exactly so he's probably like i i'm not going anywhere unless you can guarantee i can do whatever i want to do and i could talk about whatever i want to talk about yep i'm sure it's in his contract something to something to that effect i'm sure they have like very specific outs yeah but i'm also sure that he's got very specific

protections yeah yeah that must have been a hefty contract man i couldn't imagine i've been given contracts that are like this thick yeah and i'm like garbage i'm not dealing sorry i'm out give me something simple yeah it's the biggest podcast in the world yeah i can imagine it was big whoa whoa it was number two on tuesday all right it's it's number one yeah you have to explain darth typhon says nick comalatsos gym in north carolina was raided by police yesterday and the gym goers removed by police following roy cooper's executive order he put up a video earlier with footage of the event rome is burning man that is nuts wow so we actually live very very close to atlas gym yeah i don't know if you guys have seen

this video people are getting arrested they're walking out of the gym after exercising i guess and the cops just cuff them take them away easy yep and we're super close maybe maybe we'll check it out oh you know what man yeah they close at 11 i think i think i'll hop over and see what's up really yeah sure why not i mean you, you don't got to go. I'll go. I don't believe you. All right, let's do it. You don't believe me what?

It's not going anywhere. Oh, we'll see about that. You want to bet? Oh, well, I bet you you're going to go. I'm going to go no matter what. Sure. I wanted to go earlier, but we skated instead. Yeah, sure.

Yeah. Chet Chisholm says, snagged one of those shirts. You guys just found the secret to printing money. Look up Viva Frey, a lawyer on YouTube. Breaks down the Elon Musk lawsuit really well. more medical shiznit on covid to come jack says youtube and facebook are slowly killing themselves and they don't even know it i think they do know it i think they don't care steve m says the reason joe stopped doing live was because people were making clips and it as it was streaming ah interesting yeah interesting did he he say? He may have said that.

Didn't he say that? And then posting it themselves. On other channels. Right. I once saw, I was getting ads all the time for a fake Joe Rogan Instagram. Oh. And it's like. Random.

It was huge. It had hundreds of thousands of followers and it was selling products under his name. And, you know, unfortunately for those people, I happen to know Joe, and I'm like, yo, bro, check this out. Oh, you showed him. Yeah, they're taking your... That's messed up. Yeah, it is.

There were channels that had, like, hundreds of thousands of subs. They were probably making, you know... Good money. Millions of dollars. Probably, yeah. Off of his stuff. Yeah. For the Horde or for the Alliance?

For the Alliance. It's tough, actually. There's a lot of races. I actually have a Knight Elf. Not a Knight Elf. A Void Elf, sorry. This is Warcraft, right? Warcraft, yeah, yeah.

It was really annoying unlocking Void Elf. It's a premium race or something. You gotta do a bunch of quests or whatever. I've never played World of Warcraft. It's a fun game. Void Elf's cool. I love PvP with Void Elf because they have this ability where they can fire a ripple

in space time. Okay. And then you have a few seconds to activate it and teleport to that ripple. Cool. So in PvP, what you do is I play Rogue, so I'll be fighting someone, I'll fire it off in one direction, run the other direction, and then blink behind them. They'll chase you.

Yep. And they won't be paying attention and then boom on the other side. It's fun. It's fun. Nice. But they're alliance. FNJeff says, I first heard of you when you were on Joe's podcast facing the Twitter people. Why am I late to this party? Keep up the good work. Appreciate it. FTWPang says, Hey Tim, loving

the content. Have any of you played Metal Gear Solid 2? And if so, what are your thoughts on the ideas put forward in the latter half of the game compared to the modern internet age i only played the first one i didn't play it and randomly i played the metal gear solid solid vr missions i really enjoyed that game also but never played any of the other there's a lot of metal gear solids now geez did you play metal gear lydia i've never played Metal Gear Solid. I don't play any kind of

video game like that. That was my follow up question. Yeah. Have you played any video games? No. The Gray Gamer says

Pingas signed the great poobah of America. Appreciate it. Talbot says thanks to Jordan Peterson haters whenever I hear. So what you're saying is the troll in me has a

Pavlovian response of making lobster jokes Adam says it too much I see purple do I I don't know do I say that so what you're saying is did you get it from that interview that's what I thought you were referencing I don't know do I see have you seen that Peterson interview uh what what interview with Kathy Newman no I don't think it's like just I'm gonna go full exaggeration sure Jordan Peterson is like, I think we have an issue where men and women are biologically different and perhaps want different things

in life. So what you're saying is men are better than women and you think women are inferior. And he's like, no, I'm not saying that at all. I hear you doing that to me a lot. So what you're saying is? Yeah. As a joke, though. Not serious. I'm doing the mean right right

so it's like i take what you're saying and twist it in the most awful possible way so adam got it from tim yeah you got it from jordan peterson i don't think i say it but now i'm gonna be aware of it realize if i do say it but okay all right all right sure different gnomes is on the topic you did about journalists accusing guilt by association when the company bans x user why is it that not tortuous uh oh tortious interference. When third party maliciously interferes a contract, by the way, two parties. I don't know. I've talked about this with some lawyers. Tortious interference is when like you interfere with someone else's contract. I'll have to get a lawyer in. Maybe we'll get the, maybe one day we'll change when the pandemic is

over. We can have a Will Chamberlain. He is a lawyer and he is a very active social media user. Pro-Trump. Good opinions. Shun says, I love that Harumph I say in the beginning. Also, with Joe leaving YouTube in the long run, I wonder if alternatives will brace up for a boon in viewership or YouTube will T-pose dominance assertion. That'll be funny. Well, if you like that Harumph I say, you can get it as a t-shirt in the merch section yes yeah we made it a t-shirt here's something to consider

with joe moving to spotify if spotify opens up because you can put your podcast on right now it's not difficult okay you just have to apply and then like half a day later spotify is like boom approved okay if spotify allows video podcasts and joe's which is over i assure you there's going to be a wave of, of vodcasters or whatever, like what we do jumping over as well. I mean, I'd say straight up, we'll put the whole recorded video because we, yeah, we put it up on Spotify. Why not? Yeah. So maybe that's what Spotify is hoping for. Yep. Steal YouTube's thunder. Take Joe Rogan. All of a sudden you got a whole bunch of users doing video content competing with YouTube. Yep.

If Spotify pays the way YouTube does, that's real. That's legit. YouTube will be in serious trouble. Yep. Serious, serious trouble. Osiris says, talk about Breonna Taylor. She was a Kentucky EMT and the Louisville PD murdered her in her home. The cops did a no-knock plainclothes raid on the wrong place.

Now her boyfriend is in jail for shooting back. We've talked about that before. So ridiculous, man. Man. I can't believe this whole story is ridiculous. And there's a bunch of stories like this. It's almost like what we talked about. Who was that dude? Was it Philando Castile? Philando Castile? Oh, yeah.

Castile, legal gun owner in his car. Cop panics. Shoots the guy. Dude, I'd like to see the NRA actually deal withra you know that reminds me of that that super chat someone's super chat us yesterday and they were talking about uh having insurance like why isn't there insurance for police officers yeah doctors need it doctors need it if they mess up yeah it's part of it malpractice and then the taxpayers don't got to pay for it exactly and it also makes the officers think twice but not in a way that makes them feel necessarily unsafe.

Right. But makes them think about their pocketbook and their insurance rates going up. It's tough, man. It's, you know, there's a lot of good arguments for and against. And I know as soon as we say it, there's gonna be a lot of people with really good points

about like why it wouldn't work, why it should work or things like that. Yeah, man, that story's nuts. Yeah, it's sad. It makes me wonder why everyone's focused on like Ahmed arbery when you have a story of branna taylor in her bed yeah wakes up no knock raid boom cops bang bang bang dead yeah what would you do if someone kicked your door in and you and you had you know home

defense weapons like i had a cop tell me straight up i'd answer the door with my shotgun i knew what he was saying yeah exactly what if i do and then someone you know uh you know the cops come for one reason another wrong, wrong house. Yep. And the cop told me, here's what I do. So I do. And then what? Now all of a sudden, I'm in jail.

You know, people here are injured or whatever. No knock raids. Who was it? Somebody said no knock raids should be completely illegal. I agree. Who was it? How is that even a thing? I think it was Rand Paul.

I don't know how they became a thing. Was it Rand Paul? I'm going to look it up. It sounds like something Rand Paul would say. I can't believe they are legal. No, not great. It just blows me away. I can't believe it.

Yep. Yep. It should be forbidden. Rand Paul? One day ago. Rand Paul. That dude is awesome. He's on it.

Rand Paul. And it was about Breonna Taylor. I think that it was. Yes, that makes sense. Yeah, Taylor. Yes. Rand Paul is a good dude. It's funny because here we have an issue where it's like, I guess one of the complaints about

it is that the NRA isn't getting behind them. Yeah. This dude was defending himself and his family from what he thought were home invaders. Yeah, well, that's the fault of the police, not him. Yeah. They should have known better. But I'm glad to see that Rand Paul's standing up. That's why I like the guy.

Guy's got principles, man. Yes. Clearly. All right, let's see. Where are we at? We got a million and one super chats. Terrence says, Tim, love your content. Please look into into a documentary on YouTube on Chinese geopolitical conquest that is called Trump's biggest failure. It's an hour long and it's quite shocking. All right. Chaotix, thanks for the super chat. The usual suspect says the UN went woke. Why, though? They were

already broke to begin with. That's true. Gaddick says, hi again. Glad I could make it. Not gonna lie, kinda excited to have YouTube die. Also, took the political compass test. There enough room on the fence for me, Tim? It is a very, very long fence, so we're all standing in a single file line. Balancing. Shaking like, woo.

Six feet away, though. Social distancing. That's right. That is correct. No coughing. No spinning. Darth Soldier says, I believe the word you're looking for is spooby. That's right. That is correct. No coughing. No spitting. Darth Soldier says, I believe the word you're looking for is spooby. It's a word in reference to someone that has absolutely no meaning, and it's also a fun word to say. Just call everyone a spooby.

I love it. Yeah. All right. Spooby. Spooby. Carlos. That's a spooby of you. Thanks for the super chat.

Andrew now. Ten bucks for saying that about dear person out loud. Look, I don't go after people for brigading or anything like that yeah i said it because i think it's important needs to be talked about we're talking about people's health here man yeah none of it says people like that deerkin are mics uh mentally ill censorship shields they show people like florbo front and center and hide everyone else in the group so that if anyone speaks out against the censorship, Cabal, you're an ist. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's weird.

I don't even care that they identify as a deer. That's irrelevant. But when you start saying that all these people that you don't like are white supremacists and they better watch out because now i have the power it's like okay if anyone said that i i am like it's what's going on here yeah like you some some people like dressing up like animals and whatever and they get along just fine sure some people have you know weird you know tics or whatever and so you can be fine yeah what i was referencing specifically is the weird noises and like yeah voy behavior. Those were really weird. But the, you should be afraid of me.

Yeah, exactly. That's a sign of somebody who is stunted in their development and bullied and dangerous. Yeah, I agree. What's interesting is this person, where's the media to decry incel them? When they talk about these loners who say weird things, say you should be afraid of me and all this stuff, they immediately scream incel them when they talk about these you know loners who say weird things say you should be afraid of me and all this stuff they immediately scream incel this person is the exact same fits all the same you know checks all the same boxes yeah what's what's why can't why can't you come out and say this is the same thing it's their version of that seems like it you know and they

defend it kd moore says ran the numbers if roan makes 75 an episode four times a week, no misses, that sums to 15.6 mil a year. If Spotify has him for four years, that's 10 mil a year raise. That's a pretty hefty chunk of money. A lot of speculation, though. We don't really know. I do have to admit, I don't think we're going to get to the extra segments. Yeah, even the article said it was just someone who was close to the situation. Yeah.

I don't know exactly their wording, but basically. Vox Imogenum says, what are your thoughts about social distancing versus the mental health toll? Social distancing seems to be the main thing that worked. Yeah.

Not the lockdown. Not locking down. Yeah. Because the study... Just washing your hands. But no, no, no. Wearing masks. Yeah.

Limits the amount that you're coughing on other people. Washing your hands. Staying six no, no. Wearing masks. Yeah. Limits the amount that you're coughing on other people. Washing your hands. Staying six feet apart. Being in the sunlight. But no big gatherings. No shoulder-to-shoulder events and stuff. That seems to be what's working.

Yeah. Actually, in all of our research through it all, it seemed like these huge, massive gatherings of humans, like 7,000 to 30,000 people. That was happening. Like these church events and that Smurf event, like random things. But there were huge groups of people meeting. And then, boom, there was a huge outbreak in those areas. And it's like, okay, well, that makes sense. Versus mental health?

I don't know. I don't know what the mental health toll is for social distancing. I know the lockdown has had a toll. Well, I feel like people are being locked in now and are having mental health issues. They might have been on the fragile already. There's a dude, the guy who was the founder of Ustream, the first streaming service I used. His kid committed suicide. That's sad.

Very, very sad. And now he's trying to do a campaign to raise awareness over what happened. happened and it was because i think it's fair to say because of the lockdown really like he's he was you know the kids trapped inside his all of his social life has been ripped right from underneath him well and and the toxic nature of haters on the internet like you know that person asked us like how do you how do you with haters? And it's like, well, you and I have really thick skin. We can handle it. People who don't have that thick skin are locked in. Where do they get their social needs?

On the internet. And when you go on the internet, if you're not prepared for it, it can be... Mental fortitude, man. It can kick you over the edge, you know? It's people with limited mental fortitude. Yeah. They, look, the people who react to social media numbers and then get addicted to it.

Yeah. Weak mental for like bad mental fortitude. Weakens you. The people. Well, it's not it's not that it's the people who are susceptible to it aren't of strong mind. Cause not an effect. They see they see that I tweet something out.

I get a bunch of retweets. They get addicted to it and they're not strong enough to be their own person. Yeah. So they end up getting addicted. And then when people are mean to them they have the same reaction they're not strong enough to be their own person yeah it's unfortunate atk says the twitch safety person is a trans bio male that that identifies as a female deer okay darth soldier says this is how twitch will die with the sound of thunderous applause of the re-community. Yeah, it will. Yes. There, uh, oh, we just

jumped. I love it when, uh. Or the cringy sound of that deer person getting their hair pet and them like deer-gasming. It was creepy, man. Cringy. It's voyeurism, I think, you know. Yeah, it's too weird. I agree. Let's see.

Hudson says, Fun fact, female deer do not have antlers. Forest creature, it's voyeurism i think you know it's too weird let's uh let's see hudson says fun fact female deer do not have antlers forest creature not the same person as twitch ambassador who supposedly got fired doesn't seem to get it in one of the videos that's a good point where it's a male thing they use it to fight each other and show who's the boss in one of the videos this is really funny the other person in the video is stroking the trans deer. That's so funny. Sorry, go ahead. The person stroking the trans deer person says that, you know, the good thing about horse creatures is that they're very, like, vocal with what they like.

And I'm like, horse creatures? What's a horse? You mean an ungulate? Like, is that the word you're looking for? What is a horse creature? Like, you're talking about horses What is a horse creature? No. Like, you're talking about horses? I think it doesn't matter.

Specifically, referring to donkeys, you're talking about hoofed mammals. I don't think it really has anything to do with the animals. I do love that word ungulate, though. It's them being a thing. Ungulate? Other than the norm. Yeah, it's a great word. Yes.

Hoofed mammal. I just found this out. Elephants are sub-ungulates. Sub-ungulates? Yeah, I looked it up. Cool. Elephants are cool. Socialism. Sub-ungulates? Yeah, I looked it up. Cool. Elephants are cool. Socialism is for figs.

Is the woman in the room, Lydia, of White Run a Trumpster? Trumpeter? If so, I have more hope in this world. Yes. A Trumpeter? No. I'm not a Trumpeter. As far as playing a Trumpster.

Oh, I thought it was Trumpster. Yeah, I'm not sure. I think they're asking if you support Trump. I think that's what it is. I don't know yet. I kind of like what he's doing. Really? I don't. Kind of. I think that's what it is. I don't know yet. I kind of like what he's doing. Really? I don't.

I'm actually kind of surprised. Why? Because I would have assumed of the three of us, you would be the biggest Trump supporter. I feel like everybody assumes that. Yeah, you're far right relative to us. You are. I'm closer to the middle than Tim is. You're more to my center left at the moment.

I would like it on record that I'm closer to the center than Tim is. But you're on the right. Yes, I am to the right of the center than Tim is, but you're on the right. Yes, I am to the right of the line. That is correct. Yeah. So I'm far right. So you're all,

you're all right. Uh, adjacent. Yes. Yeah. I'm actually, I'm actually pretty far left. Like you saw my social compass,

right? Yeah. He's, he's further left than I am. Actually. He's not as close to center as I thought. He's the hippiest one in the room. Is that the crazy thing?

It's so weird. Not, it isn't me. It's totally true. It's true. Don't let the hair fool that the crazy thing it's so not it isn't me true it's true don't let the hair fool you it's funny uh i'll give a shout out to stick sex and hammer uh he's a great youtuber you should check out his channel channel it's it's hard to spell though that's the challenge i'm like true six six six uh stick sex and hammer he's cool dude but he he made a video that said something like libertarian socialism is not a thing admittedly i didn't get

a chance to watch it. I only watched a brief intro of it because I'm mostly just working all day. But I'm not saying this as necessarily to disagree with him because I don't know exactly what his full point was. But libertarian socialism absolutely does exist. It's just a pipe dream. That's the important thing that people need to understand. The easiest way to explain it, because there's American big L libertarianism, which tends to be right libertarianism, is that you can absolutely have libertarian socialism. However, it's basically like, imagine there's a farm and a bunch of people live there and they all just kind of do things and share everything. And no one really asks questions. There's no quantified trade. It's just like,

Hey, look, I grew a bunch of, you know, strawberries. Would you like some? Thank you. I made a hammock. Would you like to sleep in it and then someone might leave and then someone else might come later and it's just about like cooperative construction and stuff these things can't scale up that's why I say it's a pipe dream it doesn't work on the scale of humanity now

it's a nice little farm because there's not enough 200 years ago, probably. Maybe. Small tribes. Small tribes, yeah. Small tribes, small villages, maybe. That's why every time they try to do socialism, when they say, it's democratic socialism,

it always becomes authoritarian. Because they come out with the best of intentions, and they're like, now everyone can have food. Then all of a sudden, someone storms the store and says, you said it was free, and eats everything. So then they say, that person can't have food there you go authoritarianism or just i'm gonna limit the food everyone can eat to only one and it's like okay that doesn't work if you are a group of like i think i think there is a a hippie commune of like a hundred people and it's libertarian uh i think it's libertarian libertarian communist You can come and you can leave. Where's that?

I don't know. I was reading about it. And you have to apply to become a member. But once you join the commune, it's like everyone agrees that you can come in because you're someone who's willing to work and share. Okay. And there's no conflict because everyone agrees with each other. It's really easy to do and people agree and are willing to be like, don't worry, i'll make sure i get this done and we can all share yeah and then there's relatively little conflict what about christiania you know about that like what are they you know it's capitalist

totally capitalist okay there are stores yeah that's true yeah it's more like just straight up libertarian like like yeah it's actually like fairly right i guess it's probably centered it's probably moderate for those that aren't familiar christiania is it's in copenhagen it's actually fairly right, I guess. It's probably centered. It's probably moderate. For those that aren't familiar, Christiania is in Copenhagen, right? Yeah, in the middle of Copenhagen. But it's segmented off where they consider themselves free and separate from Denmark. Yeah, a sovereign state.

And Denmark doesn't care. It's like a great tourist attraction. I think they care, but... No, I think they love it. It's tourism. People want to go there. That's true. People go to Copenhagen just to go check that out.

It's true. And when you walk in, it says, now leaving the EU. Yeah, it's true yeah it's a pretty cool place actually yeah there's like a burger joint we went and got like burgers and fries it's cool it's a cool place there's a skate park in there it's amazing a really dope skate and you just walk in and let you skate i mean it is very hippie yeah the fact that someone built an indoor park you just walk in and skate outdoor there's the outdoor section too yeah it's huge yeah dude that place is cool i love it i've been to copenhagen way too many times for some reason.

No. Copenhagen is great. No, I just mean like it's weird. It's the cheapest place to fly into Europe. And you can get anywhere from Copenhagen really easily. And that's actually how I get to Sweden. So I've also been to Copenhagen a lot. Yeah.

Yeah, because the train right to Malmo, it's only like 15, 20 minutes, right? Yeah. All the way into her hometown. Oh, wow. Yeah. All right way into her hometown. Oh, wow. Yeah. All right. Let's see. Where are we at?

Wallace says, I am a Subverse investor and supporter on Patreon. Can you comment on how investors are affected by Subverse turning into Scanner or the new fact-checking venture? The new fact-checking thing I'm doing is totally separate from Scanner and probably will independently fact-check Scanner stuff. But Scanner is on the ground, like boots on the ground reporting. So it's going to be legit verified. Like, uh, the name change will have no impact whatsoever. As far as I can, I I'm 99% sure. I say that because there's other people involved that run editorial. But, uh, the only

thing that changed is the brand. It's just a lot of complicated stuff I'm gonna do with the brand. And we were like, let's just call it scanner. I have to be careful on what I say because it's independent from me. And there are a bunch of decisions from the people who are running it, Rocco and Emily, that I am outside of.

I just try and make sure that they don't cross into fake news territory. And then other than that, they do their thing. So everything's going really, really well. There's a lot of really, really good news for the supporters of Subverse. The company is still Subverse. It's just my understanding, to be careful, is the new brand is just Scanner. But the company is still the exact same company, so it doesn't change.

But there should be an announcement from the team coming soon because there's really awesome stuff happening, and I think it's going to take off. That looks good. I don't know what I'm allowed to say, but there's some big projects with big companies, and it's going to be like, oh, we're coming. Bill McPherson says,

Tim, Yuri Bezmenov described the behavior of the leftist back in the 80s. The whole idea is to demoralize society. The UN is fundamentally intended to bring a worldwide communistic government. Well, I don't know if I completely agree, but I can say I don't understand why the UN would say those nonsensical things other than to confuse people. Yeah. Gender neutral says Ukraine just released Biden phone calls with former president poroshenko explosive international corruption and evidence of biden accepting laundered millions from burisma we'll see let's see j mac says my kids think i only listen to you guys and shapiro despite having a range of channels i follow i appreciate you guys keeping it clean even if it's mostly due to

youtube my son is seven and he always recognizes your voice. I want to make sure this is clear. It wouldn't be YouTube though. I was swearing a lot before until I got emails from people saying, please don't swear because of my kids. And I went, ah. Because I didn't care before. I taught skateboarding. I have like 40 cousins.

It's crazy. I've got a big family. All on my dad's side too. It's insane. So I've been around kids my whole life. I taught skateboarding for a long time. The average age was probably eight. i've been around you know younger humans and i kind of i have this filter that i just kind of turn it off and i i don't really swear a lot anyway um i mean i do but especially when i'm on the show i have a really really that i have that filter on so it was it was a few years hard it was

a few years ago i got an email from someone saying, I listen in the car and my kids are listening. So if you could refrain from swearing. And I was like, okay. And then I started looking up. And it was later on that YouTube showed the guidelines about if you swear, you lose money and stuff. And I was like, ah.

So that's secondary. First and foremost, it's like, I don't want people to feel like they can't listen because they're scared their kids might hear something. And it's not important to swear right we get all of our points across you know there's there's rappers out there that don't swear and it's like people are shocked like whoa you don't swear there's some very good rappers out there that do not swear at all right oh here's a good one mark says europa has an ocean under its icy surface that is theoretically

theoretically warmed up by the gravitational pull from Jupiter. Cool. Because of the ice geysers on the surface, it's the best place to look in the solar system. That's exactly what I was, that's why I brought it up. That's so cool. Thanks for that. Ethan Johanson says, where is the teeth on an almond, Adam? A, where is the teeth on the almond, Adam?

B. The teat. I believe. Oh, okay. I'm willing to bet, yeah. Almond milk? Yeah, makes sense most dairy farmers work 18 hour days and get rewarded by losing money the big farms of over a thousand cows can die but small dairies don't deserve to struggle okay well i am the only person that makes all the choices for all of that so you can be mad at me

shun says youtube doesn't even allow me to super chat 4chan with the number. Wow. But anyways, you guys should totally do a deep dive on Jovian and Saturnian systems and how awesome

they are like mini solar systems. I don't know what that is. Can you write that down? Yeah, I'll look it up. Yeah. Thank you. What does it say?

Jovian and Saturnian. Yeah. Jov system and the Saturn system, I'm guessing. Vox Imogen, thanks for the super chat. Greg Wolf says, it is not from 30 to 50 feral hogs that the security of a free state needs defending. Do you remember that

meme? Which one? Somebody tweeted I don't think so. They were like, you don't need these weapons. And he says, what am I supposed to do when 30 to 50 feral hogs come, you know, storming my property? Yeah, that's true. And what's funny is, once again, you see... Or cougars or, I mean, I lived in Arizona where there was mountain lions. Well, javelinas aren't really...

They're hilarious. I mean, I guess they could be. Little warthogs. But it's more the mountain lions that you'd have to worry about. But they're out there and they crawl around. Here's what's funny. They're big beasts. This person brought up 30 to 50 feral hogs.

And the left are hooting and laughing and hollering because they live in cities right it's like i guess i guess being from chicago i understood when deer and coyotes would run through the city yeah and like why oh look wildlife whoo dude coyotes mauled your pets i know yeah exactly yeah they'll they'll eat your dogs yep there's coyotes out in arizona too they're crazy it was funny when i saw the 30 30 to 50 feral hogs i looked it up and it was like people often need to defend against hogs raiding their properties and i'm like so why is this funny yeah because the the leftists who are making fun of them didn't bother to look it up or read or understand what it's like to live in the country where you have to

defend yourself it's like that doesn't fit what my life narrative is so i get to make fun of it come on yep silly bill mcpherson says, come to West Virginia. The eastern panhandle is only an hour outside D.C. I'm from Maryland originally and left because of its restrictions. Berkeley County is well-developed and close to major highways and no zoning laws. I mean, yeah, it's a couple hours

from a bunch of big cities and airports. So, not perfect for having guests and stuff. The Lopardi says, I don't recommend a shotgun for home defense. Buckshot will go through a lot of walls without question. An AR-15 with fragmenting hollow points is recommended. You're responsible for every bullet you fire. I agree with that last statement.

Good point. Incredibly. Yeah. NR says, I feel like Lid get like one comment in every 15 minutes. Also, what is Adam's tattoo? Snowflake? Keep calm and avoid the media. What tattoo? Oh, on your arm. Also, what is Adam's tattoo? Snowflake? Keep calm and avoid the media. What tattoo?

Oh, on your arm. Oh, this is the sun. Wait, here. My mom actually drew this herself and has the same tattoo in the same spot. Oh, cool. And so she drew it. I always like to keep a little sunshine with me, you know?

Oh, that's very sweet. And honestly, this is, I say praise the sun as both a joke and also being dead serious because without our son we would be dead george carlin like that is the reason we're here is that's that big huge globe in the sky and i give thanks to that because that's that's i know that exists i know that's real and i know that gives me life so that's why i have this sun all of that energy. But I also have other tattoos.

Check out my, give me my close-up again. Oh, wait. He's ready for his close-up. This is one of my favorites. There we go. This is from Gnostic Tattoo in New York and Brooklyn.

And this girl Maggie did it. She's awesome. It is a straight line. It was a birthday present, actually. Yeah, I actually had a thinner line once, but I lost a big chunk of it. I was skateboarding down a mountain. I was going like 40.

And someone cut me off, and I kind of hit some gravel, and I went into the ground, and it just ripped the tattoo out. I actually pulled a little bit of the ink out of the scab. Oh, my gosh. So I got that touched up, and now I actually love it so much more. It's dope. That's awesome. Yeah, praise the sun. Sean Moore says, Jovian means Jupiter.

Jovial. Cool. Cool. Joe Ross says, who did Lids vote for in 2016? I voted for Gary Johnson because I didn't like my options. Libertarian. Yeah. It didn't work out.

All right. It is now 10 p.m. I actually want to try and get to that gym before it closes. Check it out. We'll hit up that last one. That's fairly hefty. Which one? The very last one. NR? Yeah. I actually want to try and get to that gym before it closes. Let me check it out. We'll hit up that last one. That's fairly hefty. Which one? The very last one.

NR? Yeah. I did. Oh, you just did? Yeah. Oh, that's the tattoo one. Oh, I appreciate it. So if you want to get in your super chats, throw them in right now.

Make sure to follow Adam down there. Follow me. Because you can send him story ideas. And this is important. That's why I started talking. I can't reach it. You put up a pinned tweet. I did.

It's always pinned on the top. And then we actually do use the stories that you guys send. Yeah, you guys really do help. You can follow me at TimCast, where I post on Instagram pictures of cats and skateboarding. But on Twitter, I'm complaining about politics and media and stuff. So you know what you're getting. You can also follow Lydia. You can.

Oh, wait. I have a thing. There it is. Sourpatch Lids, L-Y-D-S. On Twitter. And she posts spicy memes. I post all sorts of stuff. I ask all sorts of questions.

And you're a meme now. I am a meme. I saw your meme today. Yes, I am. It is hilarious. It's a meme? I'm a meme. Kind of.

I mean, it's a gif. Gif? It's a gif, right? Is it gif? I didn't show, Tim. Gif or gif? It's very important. I'll show them after the show.

Didn't the guy who created it say it was gif? No, he said it was gif. Oh, gif. He said it was GIF. Oh, okay, cool. You don't know? He said it was GIF. I disagree. With what? The guy who made it? He literally said it was GIF. Okay, alright. But that's how you interpret that. GIF for you? Yep, that's GIF for me. So you're GIF and the rest is GIFs. Yes, my favorite football team, the Giants. The Giants? And my favorite show in Vegas, the Magicians. A soft g is not a thing like giraffe yes it is that's why it's jif you can have a hard g or a soft g right and the guy who invented it said it's jif all right it's like could you imagine well you have a gym

to go to yeah a gym a guy why see what i did there yeah we, we got that. All right, all right. Enough arguing. All right, all right. Are you following us yet? Yeah. Hit the like button. Sure. Just mash that like button. And subscribe. We do the show every Monday through Friday at 8 p.m. because we are workaholics.

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That was a fun show. Yeah. Here's American Gladiators. All right. I'll read these next Super Chats. Cool. Bravo says, number four buckshot is good for home defense in shotguns. Porkins Holt says, two-year wedding anniversary.

Shout out. Love you, D. That's sweet.l's jr says use telegram twitter is trash the blue ferret project says what's your fave elder scrolls race mine is breton all the way um i don't i don't have a favorite i would switch it up every single time i played 11 bravo nrd says tim use less than lethal beanie bag shotgun rounds. Beanie bag. All right. We're going to wrap it up.

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