Timcast IRL - TimcastIRL #88 - 'Resistance' Claim Trump Will Cheat, Barr Will help, And Civil War Will Erupt

Episode Date: July 8, 2020

Tim and Adam discuss Max Boot, the electoral college, creeping normality, the DSA, the hate crime of painting over a pating, and Tim and Adam argue about why everything is so angry all the time.  Sup...port the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good evening, everybody. Normally, Tim starts the show, but I'm going to start it today with a very special message to whoever sent me this wonderful pillow. It's a like button. Drink it and smash! Yeah! Oh, that felt so good.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Just wanted to beat the like button. Hold on, I'm not done. You're not smashing it. I want you to do the same right now. Smash that like button. You know you want to. Come on, I'm not done. You're not smashing it. I want you to do the same. Right now, smash that like button. You know you want to. Come on. But look at this. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I can smash. Oh, smash. Adam now has a like button to smash. My dreams. To accommodate his violent tendencies. Yeah, he's so many violent tendencies. Had him banging on the table. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:45 So did you guys smash the like button? Oh, a bunch of people did. Wow, look at that. I think we got to start with that. It works. You got to just start bashing the like button. The pillow works. And I feel better.
Starting point is 00:00:55 I've let off a little steam. There's a lot of anger in the air, you know. It's therapeutic. Yeah. Seriously, though, thank you whoever sent that to us. Because we just got it in the mail today to the Tim cast IRL Mail slot and I actually filled it myself with some beans be careful It's pointing at you. You know you don't you don't appoint it the other way because then it becomes no don't do it
Starting point is 00:01:16 It is a it's a like button. All right, it is a like button smash the like button, but is it a Facebook like button? No, it just looks like I don't care. I don't discriminate against like buttons. It's blue, like Facebook. It's purple to me, alright? Try to tell me something different. Go ahead. I heard a rumor. I heard a rumor. Oh, rumors? Yeah, that Donald Trump was gonna cheat. I saw it coming too. I wonder how many people get the reference I think you all get it by now right
Starting point is 00:01:47 we just love making fun of Eric Swalwell Donald Trump is going to cheat an election they would hope don't they this is actually a really fascinating story it's apparently Max Boot who is he isn't he a columnist for let me look it up
Starting point is 00:02:04 yeah he's a columnist for Washington a but he's like he wrote an article and i'm i'm going to give him a more ominous sounding voice because i don't i don't know what he really sounds like for all i know he was like hi my name is max boot and i so but but for the sake of it i'm going to give him a more ominous sounding dark voice of i recently participated in war games now i was on Team Trump and we did not concede. And he basically writes this article about how they were given a... It's like they were playing D&D basically. It's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:02:34 it's actually really funny. They basically played leftist D&D to see what Trump would do. This makes sense. In his picture for the post he's wearing a fedora. So I'll just calculate that into your voice impression. Hey, your voice hey hey hey stop bragging on the dnd players yeah see it was the writing on the wall yeah i saw it was there well if we're gonna do dnd fedora wearing you know anti-trump recently i i participated in
Starting point is 00:02:58 war games well i was on team trump that's where he licks the pencil. He's like, let me get this down. Yeah, I'm going to write this. I was on Team Trump. I'm going to get all the information. And then his friend goes, more like drums. Am I right? And then they high five. All right, all right.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Enough ragdolls. But like across the room, too. They're like not even near each other. Like, yeah. And they still miss. Totally got it. So he wrote this thing where he basically says, literally, there was various scenarios presented by some, like, some organization. They had all these people come in, and they chose teams.
Starting point is 00:03:29 And they were like, even though Trump loses the election, he refuses to concede. And then he mentions there are, like, other scary scenarios where if nobody wins, then, like, the right and the left, like, civil war erupts. I'm not kidding. The Washington Post published this. Oh, the Washington Post. Yes, yes. I've learned that there are great sorts of information. Hey, hey, democracy dies in darkness.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Okay. At the Washington Post, apparently. No, but listen, listen. The point is, we have one of the most prominent papers in the country. Unfortunately, it's the Washington Post. But they've literally written this thing where they're saying, our war game scenario predict a civil war where violence erupts. And the speculation is that the civil war ends in the favor of the right, not in the way you might think.
Starting point is 00:04:10 The right doesn't win the fighting. The fighting just in general causes SCOTUS to force everything to stop and give Trump the victory. Like they just say, Trump, you win. Everyone stop. Okay. So we have that. And then we also have this really, really amazing story. You see, a bunch of people got together, and there was a letter that was drafted.
Starting point is 00:04:27 And the letter said, we must cancel cancel culture. Oh, wow. And now it's begun. That's very strong. Some of the people who have signed the letter, they've already tried canceling some of these people. And it's like, yes, we saw that coming. But one person's already apologized to the mob trying to cancel them for – yes. It was like not even a day.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Don't cancel me for canceling the cancel culture canceling list. Yeah, people were like, you want to cancel cancel culture? We'll cancel you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't know. These people are so pathetic, man.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah. And so we actually have J.K. Rowling, who has signed this letter as well. And so they've written this thing about it. We'll check that one out. And then if we get to it, usually we'll tease some of the stories I might talk about. Mortgage-backed securities are apparently – their delinquency rate is worse than it was during the Great Recession when the housing market totally collapsed. Oh, back in 2008? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And there's some speculation that we are going to see like worse than the great depression wow because everything's like being held together right now by duct tape yep but i'm not i'm not i'm not entirely convinced we'll see what if uh trump wins because he cheats then the economy tanks just like combine all of these scenarios everyone's putting together and then what like mad max trump's wearing like spiked leather you know with chains and like riding on a giant roadster or whatever idiocracy total idiocracy man yeah yeah but we other than that we have a we have a like button so you should you should well adam take it away well people are listening they have no idea what you're doing right now i'm smiling obnoxiously holding the light for those just
Starting point is 00:06:03 listening i'm holding this like button and smiling obnoxiously hoping you know what I'm about to do we just smash it yeah well you're actually punching it don't tell me you have to like take both your fists and like I'm sorry I'm wrong Tim you also don't just say you're wrong don't forget to it by now don't forget to smash the subscribe button yeah the notification this is how I smash, Tim. You smash? This is considered smashing, Tim. No, I think you're mashing.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I'm mentally picturing this as Tim's face right now. Mashing. Mashing the like button. Mutiny. Smash the Tim's face. I meant like button. We don't want to smash his face. Yeah, yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Let's talk about this here story, huh? Let's talk about what if Trump loses but insists he won how many times have they written articles like this multiple where it's like all the time it's it's been you know there was a there's a funny tweet i saw and it said if you're one of these people that's retweeting the story that says trump is not going to leave the white house you're the rube like you're like you're the target of their of their grift yep they're going to keep writing these stories because they know you're going to leave the White House, you're the rube. You're the target of their grift. They're going to keep writing these stories because they know you're going to keep clicking on them, and they write new versions every single time.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Trump will cheat. You know what Trump said if he loses? They were like, what do you do if you lose? And he's like, then I lose. What do you mean? It's a very boring answer. I go, I leave. What are you talking about? Joe Biden apparently said something like you have to get the military to pull Trump out.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Oh, gosh. Very exciting. Why are they engaging in this kind of rhetoric? You know what I mean? Shouldn't they just keep their mouths shut? What was that? What do you got? Spritz.
Starting point is 00:07:39 We got a Spritz the cat. Spritz time. We got a Spritz event. And she's gone. Okay, okay, but let's stop worrying about the cat. Let's check out the story. Check it out. Yeah, yeah. Well, actually out yeah yeah well actually here's the first no no i want to actually comment on that because it it makes me think every single thing that's happening is is the democrats firing all the weapons they've got that's why biden's saying something because they are in a corner with every single blade out throwing him in every direction like fire everything
Starting point is 00:08:07 biden's like he's gonna cheat trump's like no i'd leave what are you talking about well i'll walk out of the lighthouse like what other options do i have it's like hmm yeah this scenario is very similar to when we talked about before okay where they're like you know trump doesn't win so they accuse, you know, the Democrats of cheating or claim there was Chinese interference and then jam up the process so that nobody wins. And then the Supreme Court or the House side with Trump. Well, didn't the Supreme Court just rule that
Starting point is 00:08:37 the states have to give their popular vote to the electoral votes? They have to give their electoral votes to who wins the state. Oh, in the state. So if a state says Donald Trump won, then the electoral votes have to go to Trump. No faithless electors, because people tried voting for other random people in 2016.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Just like, I don't agree with any of this. They're not supposed to do that. Interestingly, the Electoral College vote is a remnant of the olden days. a remnant of uh the olden days yeah that one of the one of the features of the electoral college was that you know you'd send electors to be like here's what our state has chosen right so when the state voted for something the elector represents that state so that still makes sense for a lot of other
Starting point is 00:09:20 reasons electoral college is all about proportional representation right and then you know we negotiate the power based on the population. So you have your senators plus your congressmen. So the Electoral College, in my opinion, is a very, very, very important structure. Okay. Because it makes sure that we don't have mob, you know, majority rule. Basically, mob a majority rule. What I mean is if you had just a popular vote, then you'd have Chicago, Los Angeles and New York controlling everything. Right. That's
Starting point is 00:09:50 a full democracy. Right. And right. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. So what you end up getting is let's say they find, you know, fresh water. And actually, no, we'll use the Great Lakes as an example. OK, if Los Angeles was facing, if California was facing another drought, and then it was based on popular vote, California would lobby and be like, why don't we get the water from Chicago? And then New York would, you know, depending on which way they go, it's going to be all about the big cities. So the easiest way I explain this to people is when I went to California, and there was an area where the well water had run dry because the farmers were digging deeper and deeper and deeper, there was a drought going on.
Starting point is 00:10:31 So it's not solely the issue of voting, but one of the issues was that they had a lot of surface water in the farms. But because the big cities have more people, they voted, the surface water goes to the cities. So now you had poor people living in rural areas who had their surface water taken away from them by the big cities. So, you know, that's a really good example of the problem. If you live in the middle of nowhere and you have a pond, the big city can just vote and come and take it away. They still can do that.
Starting point is 00:10:59 But with an electoral college, it makes it much more difficult for the bigger populations to oppress the smaller states and the smaller populations. Water wars. That's coming. It's coming, too. So anyway, their pitch here, what I think is interesting about this story is two things. First, they say that basically, you know, Trump barely loses.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Then Bill Barr claims there was cheating. And then, you know, like fighting breaks out and the House rules in favor of Trump. But they also mentioned here at the bottom that what do they say? Far. Hold on. Let me see. Yeah. They're talking about near civil war in the streets. That's what they say. The danger of an undemocratic outcome only grows in other scenarios that were war gamed by other participants. For instance, what if there is no clear-cut winner on election night, with Biden narrowly ahead in the Electoral College, but with Michigan, North Carolina, and Florida still too close to call?
Starting point is 00:11:50 The participants in that war game concluded the result would be near-civil war in the streets. Far-fetched rumors are enough to bring out armed right-wing militias today. Imagine how they would respond if they imagined that there was an actual plot afoot to steal the election from their hero. Wow. i actually agree with it okay because i've talked to some people i've had people message me saying straight up if they see you know that the election is being stolen the militias will come out yeah but they're saying that they're out right now like i don't see i don't see well they're talking about gettysburg saying that the militias
Starting point is 00:12:24 that showed up in Gettysburg fell for the hoax that Antifa was going to burn flags. I haven't seen anything from Gettysburg. Was there a militia that showed up at Gettysburg? I heard it was happening. Apparently so. I've seen articles. I didn't care to read them.
Starting point is 00:12:36 I have yet to see. I'm sure people have been talking to me about it, and I'm sure they would have sent me images. There's people that follow me that live in Gettysburg that told me about that that was going to happen. I'm positive they would have sent me images. There's people that follow me that live in Gettysburg that told me about that that was going to happen. I'm positive they would have sent me something if they showed up. The only militia that I've seen marching down the road is the guys in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Yeah, NFAC. Well, so like taunting the supposed right side militias, like bring it on, let's fight. It's like, what? What do you want? Hundreds of people showed up. Okay, so you do have some here. Like, bring it on. Let's fight. It's like, what? What do you want? Hundreds of people showed up. Okay, so you do have some here. Yeah, in Gettysburg.
Starting point is 00:13:09 So this is Gettysburg. There are links to it. Listen, the point is, I agree that right-wing militia groups will come out if they think the election's being stolen. Yeah. But what will they do?
Starting point is 00:13:20 Right. Like, what they're trying to insinuate is that right-wing militias, I mean, think about what they're saying. Near civil war in the streets, right-wing militias will come out. Are they implyinginuate is that right-wing militias i mean think about what they're saying near civil war in the streets right-wing militias will come out are they implying that's the right-wing militias that'll be you know milling about with guns shooting at people and stuff like that because that has not happened right what has happened is the far left antifa black lives matter groups have shot many people that's true have there have there been right-wing militias who have engaged in that stuff in recent? Am I forgetting something?
Starting point is 00:13:46 I know there have been far-right extremists who have carried out lone wolf terror attacks. You know you'd remember it because you know they would be talking about it nonstop. Yeah, it would be everywhere. There would be no escaping that kind of conversation. Yeah, exactly. They'd be like, that's proof that they want that to happen. They can't wait. They would love that.
Starting point is 00:14:04 They'd be like, oh, ice. That they want that to happen. They can't wait. They would love that. They'd be like, oh, ice cream. Let's spread it out. I think it's correct that there would be near civil war in the streets. And I've explained this to some of my friends that I'm like, listen, man, you've never faced down the mob the way I or many others have. There's no reason. Like, there's no reasoning. You can't argue with them. That's true.
Starting point is 00:14:21 So a good example is when Luke Ridkowski of We we are change was in hamburg for the g20 yeah and he was walking with a local journalist this guy max and someone yelled nazi schweinhund yep and then random people heard it and started punching him yep and not and like pushing him down and they chased him down for a while and then the police rescued him luke's like a luke's Luke's a right, like I think he's an anarchist. Yeah. A right wing, like anarcho-capitalist. So he actually, I'm pretty sure he hangs out with like right and left wing anarcho-types. Yeah, he's not even, he's not even a wing.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah. He's like another. He's his own wing. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, he's an cap. He broke off of the winged animal. But he's always been like that. No, it's true.
Starting point is 00:15:05 No, he stands apart. But my understanding is that the people he hangs out with, a lot of them are like, I don't want to say Antifa, but close without the violence because true anarchists don't believe in it. Right. But like, you know, so he gets pointed out and he gets physically attacked. chaos starts. No one knows if you're on their side. But if you're wearing very like obvious militia type gear or, you know, right wing looking thing or American flag, you know where you can stand to be safe. I've been in situations where the mob is active. And, you know, one example is I think it was I think it may have been like June 5th could be getting the date wrong in 2015 or 16 man I can't remember but it was in San Jose
Starting point is 00:15:47 you can google this and there was a mob of people running around outside of a Trump rally beating people one guy who was with the crowd got beaten too and he was like why did everybody start hitting me and I'm like because it's a mob that you can't control a mob
Starting point is 00:16:02 so I've been talking to some of my more lefty friends. And I'm like, listen, I'm telling you, I know you. When this happens, I know which side you'll be on. And you're not going to be on the side of the left wingers. You're not. You think you might be, but you won't be. You might be running around with them. But the moment it gets crazy, you'll be standing behind the right wing militias in minutes.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Because, like, watch some of these videos, man. These people just start getting reckless and destroying things. They fight each other. There's a video out of Portland a couple of days ago that Andy No tweeted about where he's like in the absence of police, they fight themselves. And it happens because some people are like, hey, don't burn this building down. And those sides like F you. And then they start fighting. I mean, look at New York right now.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Look at Chicago. There's there's been so many deaths, so many shootings. It's it's crazy. It's already a war zone, you know, and then and then look at what happened in Atlanta. You know that that family was just turning around. They went past the barricade, turned around and the Black Lives Matter movement shot at them because they were in their their zone and killed the eight year old eight year old girl is not safe you will not be safe but i'll tell you what i've been to events where there have been right-wing militias like the oath keepers and the three percenters okay and they're the most disciplined people there
Starting point is 00:17:13 and to be fair too i have been to events where there have been like communist socialist armed factions they are also the most disciplined on the ground yeah and i think it's it has something to do with the respect for the firearm. So, like, I've actually seen, like, armed communist people, and they're very, like, we don't want any violence, man, because you do not want to go there. But then you have these young people who are just violent and angry. So, you know, typically, I think one of the funnier stories
Starting point is 00:17:40 is that when I was in Ferguson, the Oath Keepers were there, and a bunch of these Black Lives Matter activists were yelling at him like, what are you doing? And then they were like, we're here to make sure everyone stays safe. And they're like, the only problem we have is the police. And they're like, we know. That's why we want to make sure everyone stays safe. And they're like, wait, what? And the Oath Keepers were like, we swore an oath to the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:17:58 We don't like police brutality. We want to make sure everybody stays safe. And they were like, oh. They see in the media what these people are. And, and yeah they may be right-wing conservative traditionalists yeah but they're like anti-violence they're like everybody keep calm stay cool yeah and they're gonna make sure you know so peaceful protest when i when i see i was actually at an event in boston and there were three percenters i don't know a whole lot about what that represents same but they were stopping the right from engaging with the left so when the left was like trying to antagonize it was the three
Starting point is 00:18:29 percenters who are like yelling at the right being like knock back off back off keeping the peace yeah keeping the peace and making sure and none of them were armed you know but they were they were like if they weren't there it would have been i think everybody would just clash start fighting the cops were there too but there were a few people who walked over to their group, and it was the three percenters who pushed the right side back, saying don't engage with them. And it also has to do, in my opinion, with optics. As soon as the right side throws one punch, every camera, boom,
Starting point is 00:18:57 that's a front page of every newspaper. Yeah, exactly. They don't care if it's the left that's throwing punches. So here's what CNN writes. June 11th, here's the real danger if Donald Trump loses the 2020 election. I can't wait. Yeah, the first paragraph is the only thing I'm really concerned about. Joe Biden said Wednesday night that he believes if President Donald Trump loses the election and refuses to leave the White House,
Starting point is 00:19:20 many of the former generals who used to work for him, quote, will escort him from the White House with great dispatch. Cool. Something Joe Biden believes. Great news. And what a great news. And so so so Biden's giving you this like, dude, these people live in an action movie. Yeah, it's just not real life. It's very exciting. It's a movie. Yeah. So they're saying that they've they've glorified movies and we've we've turned our heroes into fake characters and that's what real life is to them. Their reality is based on movies and books. There's always a bad
Starting point is 00:19:52 guy. There always has to be a bad guy. Right now it's like, well, they've presented Donald Trump was like on a silver platter for them like, oh, perfect. We have the perfect bad guy. He's going to, how old is he? He's about to be 80. Biden? No, no, no. Trump. 73? Isn't he 74? Oh, 74? Oh, man. I'm way off. he's about to be 80 like biden no no trump 73 isn't he 74 74 oh man i'm way off biden's about to be 80 biden's 78 anyway all right i i got his age wrong but
Starting point is 00:20:13 the point i was gonna i was gonna make is even trump is an old man he's not gonna like rip his shirt off and then go like jean-claude van damme fighting the generals like what do they think's gonna happen i know like he's gonna mobilize like the army in front of the white house and like Claude Van Damme fighting the generals. Like, what do they think is going to happen? I know. He's going to mobilize the army in front of the White House and fight American citizens? No. There's a reason he didn't send people into Seattle because he didn't. The optics that we were just talking about, that's terrible. But also authority. That's what the Democrats wanted him to do.
Starting point is 00:20:39 They wanted him to be a dictator, but he's not. Exactly. He's not. So they keep acting like trump is a fascist and he's barely using his power yeah so it's like they think you know it's gonna be november 4th like three in the morning the results have come in trump loses narrowly and then he's gonna be in the oval office and his loyalists are gonna be like it's the generals they're outside to remove you what do we do and then he rips his shirt off and he's got like dual holsters and he's like,
Starting point is 00:21:05 we're not going anywhere. And he's like, what are the things going to happen? Probably that. Probably exactly that, Tim. I'm not joking. Alex Jones comes out of the roof. I'm with you right now, Mr. President.
Starting point is 00:21:19 He comes out of like a cabinet. Like what? Alex Jones, you've been there the whole time? Yes. Takes off the tinfoil hat yeah i'm ready for the information no no no he puts the tinfoil hat on oh yeah just so yeah he's about to engage in a battle and then the the generals come in with their mind control device and they're like cranking the wheel but alex jones is like you know they can't stop him this just makes me think I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I am seriously looking forward to the debate. A day later, the debate between Trump and Biden, man. Oh, wait, wait, hold on. I can't wait. All right. A day after that article comes out. Well, hold on. I got I got to show you a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Right. They say the comments which Biden made in an interview with Trevor Noe on The Daily Show are not the first time that the former president and presumptive nominee. Well, he's the nominee has suggested that he believes the incumbent may well seek to fiddle with the results. Quote, mark my words, mark my words, fat. I think he's going to try to kick back the election somehow. Come up with some rationale why it can't be held, Biden said in April. But the real danger here, blah, blah, blah. OK, but a day later, this is what we get. Trump says he will do other things if he loses the election.
Starting point is 00:22:26 It's so boring. He doesn't even have a specific noun to represent what he would do. He's like, are you kidding me? I have all these businesses that I've been not working on. Like, I'm going to go build buildings in places. Like, what? Put my name on them. That's what he does.
Starting point is 00:22:40 So let's dip our toes into real life. Yeah, please. U.S. President Donald Trump said he will go on to do other things if he loses the November 3rd election after Democratic opponent Joe Biden said the Republican might cheat and refuse to leave the White House. Quote, man, certainly if I don't win, I don't win. I mean, you know, go on and do other things. Trump told Fox News. I'm just looking at that ballot. You guys can't see this, but there's a ballot that came to our house.
Starting point is 00:23:04 We've talked about this before. Yeah. So there's there's some some stuff going on and I can see that ballot from here. That's not for anyone that lives here. But none of us got our ballots and none of us got ballots. So that's an issue. And it's weird that they're painting this picture like Trump is going to cheat. Trump is the one who's going to cheat. I'm just like, why are you saying that so much? But the reality is Trump's response is very boring. Exactly. Everything about Trump has been so much more boring than they've tried to claim. And then what's up with this? I keep seeing this.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Pop up. Yeah. Okay. There we go. So the presumptive Democratic presidential convention yet. Come on. Is he not? Or is it Hillary? Just make up your mind guess they can't say it. Just make up your mind, DNC. They can't say it. Why not?
Starting point is 00:23:48 What? Middle of August or something? Yeah. When the DNC officially declares he's the only one. Because they're going to say Hillary or something. Because, I don't know. No, I think it'd be Cuomo maybe. No way.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I have to wonder, man. Are they really helping Trump win? Like, I don't believe it. I'm like, I think about what people and moderates are saying right now. They feel like Trump can't win. They're scared. They're losing their country. And then all of a sudden, Trump pulls an upset and everyone feels inspired. Like, I'll tell you what, man, I've been thinking this since Trump won in the first place, where it's like, actually, it's not even on me. There's a conspiracy theory that Trump is part of the deep state. There's a conspiracy theory mind you i'm not saying it's true the idea is that you
Starting point is 00:24:27 look at these photos of trump and hillary together you look at these photos of like trump and and epstein together and so there's a conspiracy theory that trump is a global billionaire elite but he was propped up as an outsider still part of their elite circle so that he can get all of the anti-government, anti-establishment types normally would be opposed. Now cheering for him. Hold on. Hold on. Alex Jones. This is the funniest thing. I remember Alex Jones like very anti-government. All of a sudden now he's very pro-Trump, right? So what do you end up with? You end up with a lot of these people who are anti-government, now actively supporting the
Starting point is 00:25:05 federal government because Trump is in there, is forcing people to engage. That's the conspiracy theory. They have used Trump to increase civic engagement. People were disenfranchised, had no confidence in government, weren't voting. All of a sudden, now they're voting. All of a sudden, everybody's involved. Sports teams are gone. Everybody's in politics now. It's true. If people stopped caring about the government and stopped paying attention, they would lose confidence in it and it would just fall apart. So there are some people believe what we're seeing right now is meant to make it seem
Starting point is 00:25:36 like Trump is the outsider underdog and he wins and it restores people's faith and the ability to save their country. But you don't think so. Whoa, whoa no i there is things about what you just said that i agree with and things that that make me smirk and and giggle a little bit the the fact that they would think that he's part of the deep state because i mean i've i if you haven't noticed i've been doing a lot of research and i'm furthering myself. I know a lot more than I did a few months ago. And one of those things that I've been researching is Trump. I want to know about the president. And I'm like finding all these things about him that do not fit that narrative.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Like that whole deep state thing. It's just. Why not? I mean, he. I mean, he he funded Jesse Jackson's run for president in the 90s. Did you know that? Like, I didn't know that. That's some new information.
Starting point is 00:26:30 How does that mean he's not deep state? Well, I mean, he's a civil rights activist. Like, he cares about the people that do work. But there are a lot of Democrats that are pro-establishment that are civil rights activists. Yeah, I don't know. I guess the argument of him being the deep state, it's like you can say anyone is. They can say that I am. Like anyone could be.
Starting point is 00:26:54 It could be a conspiracy. But like I have yet to see any sort of proof of that sort. All I see is him being a humanitarian, actually, like the things that he's done it will you know before he even ran for office it reminds me of the south park episode on the 9-11 truth movement okay where the government the real conspiracy was the government was trying to convince everyone there's a conspiracy ah so that people think they're in control of everything and then at the end kyle and stan like realize and George W. Bush is there. And they're like, wait a minute, you're lying. There is no conspiracy. You made the conspiracy
Starting point is 00:27:29 up. And then there's like he gives an explanation where he's like, we need people to think that we are all powerful. Otherwise, they actually will threaten us. I mean, come on. What if we told people that we actually lost control in a group of people in the cave were able to attack us and get away with it? Yeah, we can't have that. So we need people to think, you know, it's like it's a funny't have that. So we need people to think. It's a funny thought. Well, I always thought that America doesn't negotiate with terrorists. That's true, right?
Starting point is 00:27:52 You've made it clear. I'm pretty sure. And you've explained why. Well, the kidnappers, at least, in foreign countries. I know, but the statement goes, America does not negotiate with terrorists, period. And I'm fairly certain every single person in america has just watched these people just terrorize and ripped statues down oh man take over and they fell on bent knee yeah it's and said it's my liege no not everybody
Starting point is 00:28:20 you know not certainly not me not you yeah you know i mean it's it's leaning towards the democrats it's a democratic side of things but uh dude i'm not confident i'm not because the propaganda is is is so thick i agree and it's hard to break through oh i'm seeing it man on facebook especially it's on facebook right people that i don't i don't associate with anymore i've cut them out of my life it's insane somebody they've said to me what what the far left does to get away it's brilliant we talked about the other day the death by a thousand cuts yeah i think i actually i don't know if i have it i do i do actually have this uh this article it's called creeping normalcy creeping normality sorry and it's the psychological idea of death by a thousand cuts a process by which a major change can be accepted as normal and acceptable if it happens slowly hmm creeping normality sorry and it's the psychological idea of death by a thousand cuts
Starting point is 00:29:05 a process by which a major change can be accepted as normal and acceptable if it happens slowly through small often unnoticeable increments of change the change could otherwise be regarded as objectionable if it took place in a single step or short period so the ebay color yes exactly the ebay creeping normality yeah okay creeping norm. For those who don't know, eBay changed its colors and everyone freaked out. And then they switched it back right away and then slowly over a year, right? Yeah, they added like one shade of white. One shade. And no one noticed that a year later it was the whole website had changed color.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Yep. So this is what the far left has done very effectively. And it's funny when like there's a post going going around from oh man i got i got i got a sidetrack real quick there's a dude i know that i worked with and he was a normal journalist regular guy not overly political and he was trying to find his path and he found something interesting one day when he responded to donald trump on twitter oh my he said something kind of not too crazy and he got a ton of followers and then he started doing it more and more okay and then all of a sudden he had 10 000 followers and then i started talking to him about it and i was
Starting point is 00:30:17 like bro i think you should knock this off because these people aren't like real followers you're not building a brand you're actually becoming a laughingstock of the left and the right. Like you're going to have no respect from people. You're going to lose your job. And he was like, I'm gaining a ton of followers, man. Like people really like this. I was like, no, they don't. Dopamine kicks.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah. There are people on the right who started posting edgy memes and started posting really offensive memes, but found that fringe group that kept cheering for them every time they would put something really, really edgy. And then eventually they were just off the deep end and then banned outright because they went too far. The same thing happens on the left with like becoming a reply guy. And this person just goes off the deep end, slowly replying more and more, getting more followers until finally they have a horrifying nickname, no respect, their career is over, and they're literally just the butt of a joke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:11 So I forgot what the point I was going to make is before I got wrapped up on that. I knew you would. Yeah, because I was like, I got to mention this part, because the reply guy thing really gets to me. You won't be able to smash the like button. Do it. That's all. It's your punch bag.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Smash it. Smash it. I love you. But that's the career choice for some of these people, it. That's all. It's your punch bag. Smash it. Smash it. Smash it. I love you. But that's the career choice for some of these people, man. Sorry. Yeah. What were we talking about before I went off on that tangent? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Biden. Creeping normality. Creeping normality. Yeah. So I was talking to, the reason I brought this guy up was because there's a meme by him and people share it. Okay. Because, you know, he's a reply guy.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Yeah. And basically I got into a conversation about whether or not there is a far left in this country. Okay. Of course, there is. The Democratic Socialists of America have over 70,000 members by latest reported numbers. Yeah. These are people who hold their meetings where, have you seen the DSA video?
Starting point is 00:31:57 Which one? The one where they're like, point of personal privilege. Hi, my name is Tim. He, him. I just want to point out that the chattering in this room is really triggering, and I am tired of people. Have you seen that video? No. I don't know if I want to.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I got to watch it. I want to watch everything. It's so funny because, like, the guy gets up and he goes, point of personal privilege. Could please keep the chatter to a minimum? Guys, please. And then as soon as he says guys, you see someone get up and then go up to the microphone go stop using gendered language i'm that's actually what happened wait wait this isn't i'm sorry wait this wasn't like saturday night live is real it wasn't parody is real yes it went viral everybody made fun of it well but listen listen not surprising i mean because it would something
Starting point is 00:32:42 snl would do to make fun of well we we to talk about the effectiveness of the insidiousness of what the far left has been able to accomplish. What is far left? In terms of the economic scale, far left is cooperative. Far right is competitive. So the further left you go in terms of cooperative markets, it's communism. And the further right you go in terms of cooperative markets it's communism and the further right you go in terms of competitive markets it's laissez-faire capitalism so if you had someone who said i think we should have a mixed economy that's what america is we're a
Starting point is 00:33:13 mixed economy a large portion of our income goes in taxes but then we have money you know of our choosing to spend and so you have a bit of a command economy but sort of a free market yeah we lean slightly to the right in terms of our market structure so what would far left be from where we're standing you could argue that far left relative to here is like if we taxed people at 75 or 80 that would be far left that's that's a lot if you want to talk about literal the farthest left you can go it would be overt communism yeah yeah you don't even get paid you just do your job and get everyone gets the same amount of food same amount of whatever right well i love i love these conversations i've had with people about this stuff i actually got into
Starting point is 00:33:53 it i got got into it with the uh the british socialist party oh goodness and boy did it not work out well for them of course yeah but so so does the far left exist yes there is a large group of people 70 000 plus that's the biggest organization in the world that advocate for abolishing capitalism outright you can't go further left than that that's it on the economic scale at least right on the cultural scale there is no real far uh i'm sorry i'm sorry there no no on the economic scale there's no far right okay there's like like lucrid cow scam. I mentioned him earlier. There you go. You have a small group of like libertarian, like right-wing libertarian and caps, but in terms of the major, you know, large factions, not a particularly large group
Starting point is 00:34:34 of right-wing full-on laissez-faire capitalists relative to everything else. So what people call far right in this country is typically cultural far right, meaning traditionalist and typically economically left. A lot of the people that have been called far right hold left wing economic policy views. So they're basically posting these memes where they say there's no far left in this country. And then I say, well, certainly the DSA is far left, right? They propose abolishing profit. Like there's like they don't they don't even know what profit means if they're going to
Starting point is 00:35:04 say that. Yeah, they're basically trying to get rid of all monetary transactions, abolish capitalism, abolish police, abolish prisons, complete open borders, you know, total globalization stuff. You can't get further left in these people. No. So yes, they literally exist. And there's a different question as to whether or not the left is more dangerous than the right. But I would say say the left is more effective in terms of their long-term strategy, which is psychological manipulation. Like Ilhan Omar's speech.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Well. Emotional. Yes. But subtly mentioning that we need to take down everything. But she did it in a clever way. So for those who are not familiar, Ilhan Omar said that we need to dismantle systems of oppression yeah and she said she said so long as the economic and political system of this country creates inequality you know that or you know exists it'll create inequality and we must can we must dismantle
Starting point is 00:35:55 these systems of oppression wherever they exist something like that yeah basically so this is this is the clever uh this is this is a standard clever political tactic where if she came out right now and said, I would like to completely end capitalism and destroy the American government. People would be like – Would you call that creeping normality? Yes. That's exactly the point. I'm just asking the question. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:36:17 She wasn't asking the question. She said it, but she made sure to say it in a way where she could have apologists defend her. That's why I brought it up. She didn't say destroy. She was saying oppression. But she also made a point that it was like it's not just the police systems. It's politics.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Well, because she stated that and then she's continued on saying it's not just that. It's all forms of oppression no matter where they lie. And it's like, what do you mean by that? What exactly are you talking about? Well, so here's what worries me a bit. There's no, as far as I can tell, legit far right with political power.
Starting point is 00:36:57 It's just not a thing. They say, oh, but Donald Trump. I'm like, come on, man. He's a moderate. He's in the middle. And the worst things about him you can criticize, but it's not policy. It's his behavior, his attitude and stuff like that. But if we're going to go based on not our personal standards, I defer to Vox.com, Matthew Iglesias, saying Trump was a moderate.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And you look at the New York Times scale and it says the Republicans are center right, not far right. Yep. So here's what the left does. It's very clever. They have allies in media. They seed fake news. They create as many lies as possible to smear and defame you. And they all keep saying the lie over and over and over again. It works. So there are a few people that I'm friends with that I would consider progressive or leftist. Whenever I try and have a conversation publicly
Starting point is 00:37:43 on like a Facebook comment, all of a sudden these far leftists will immediately jam up the entire conversation. So everyone leaves. They make sure no one can talk. They start saying nonsensical things, name calling. They screech. They make threats. And then all of a sudden everyone's like, I'm out. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:38:00 You want to know what I was told today? I tweeted this out earlier. Here, let me read it. It's, I was told today? I tweeted this out earlier. Here, let me read it. I was blown away. I mean, I've referenced this conversation, this thread that I've had. It all started from me just saying, Happy July 4th to all my fellow Americans.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I know we're not perfect, but 244 years ago, we laid the groundwork to fix anything that needs fixing, basically. To live free. Yeah, to live free. Yeah, to live free. And people just started freaking out and attacking me, which led to this one particular person said this to me, said, let us lead. Let us tell you what we need without you having a dissenting opinion or arguing with us, period.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Just listen to us without speaking for once, amplify our voices, and do what we are telling you we need you to do period well that's that's the super liminal to quote the simpsons right i don't know if you guys know the simpsons reference but it's that episode where bart is in that boy band and they're singing even at niage which is join the navy backwards right not a very particularly hidden message and then when lisa finds out she she talks to like the band manager who's actually a recruiter who's like we have three strategies subliminal liminal and super liminal and then she's like super liminal and he goes yes and
Starting point is 00:39:14 then he opens a window and yells to lenny and carl hey you join the navy and they're like okay and then like later you see them getting on the bus like joining the navy or something like that yeah but that like what they're telling you right there is overt. They're telling you to your face. They're telling you we've taken the ground. And we can pull the mask off and just tell you outright, you are to be subjugated by us. That's what I'm saying. You will do as you're told.
Starting point is 00:39:35 It's like, no way. So how do they get other people to support them and stand behind their calls to action? These are the tactics used by the far left to suppress cancel culture, for one. We will destroy your job. I actually had a guy threaten to call my employer today. And it was like, I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:39:52 You just give him the number. I was like, do you know anything about me? Do you realize who I am? So listen, I got into a really great conversation, actually, on a Facebook post with somebody I know. We've had a lot of great conversations. This person's rather progressive. And then sometimes we'll take it to like a private messenger. And I'll be like, that was a really great point.
Starting point is 00:40:12 I appreciate your time. And then we're like, have a nice day. So I made a comment about the far left being legit, a real threat, the things they've asked for. And somebody responded who was extremely out of his mind. And so I just ignored it. Another guy responded, made some really good points about the existence of the far left and the far right, pointing out the Democratic Party right now and for a long time has never been ideological. Okay. And the conservatives, the Republican Party has actually been ideological for a long time,
Starting point is 00:40:38 meaning that the Republican Party has conservatives. They rally around their ideologies, their view of America, their beliefs. Traditional. To an extent, right. Yeah, yeah. But typically, it's basically like this idea of America, America first, Trump, Trumpism, they're unified. The Democrats are a loose coalition of random groups that kind of just agree to vote certain ways if it benefits them. And I'm like, that's actually a good point.
Starting point is 00:41:02 If you look at the Hidden Tribes report, you'll see that conservatives are 25% of this country. Progressives are 8%. And then most people who vote Democrat are exhausted majority, they say, or default or uninitiated. The average person voting Democrat isn't really active or paying attention. And so what they argued was... That was me. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:22 That was me. They argued that... I was. Now that the Democratic Party has found an ideology, it's starting to grow and become They argued was. That was me. Yeah, yeah. That was me. They argued that. I was. Now that the Democratic Party has found an ideology, it's starting to grow and become more visible. And I'm like, it didn't completely disagree with the point I was making. But it made it, you know, this individual made a good point. We had a great conversation.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Okay. And I was like, wow, that's actually really, really smart. Showed me data and everything. And I'm like, I completely agree. Yeah. There's a really interesting point about the Democratic Party coming from the Civil War and how they've always voted for what was considered to be more progressive, regardless of what progressive meant. At a certain point, progressive meant eugenics in the early 1900s. So the Republican Party, based on this graph that was sent to me by a political researcher, this guy was a researcher, really fascinating. The Republican
Starting point is 00:42:02 Party has always been slightly conservative. Always. But the definition of conservative changes. They've just stayed true to like, in terms of the relative society, the Democrats fluctuate like crazy and the Republicans kind of stay where they are. So even to this day, they are not far right. They've never been far right. They've always been fairly moderate. And we see that data presented by Pew Research, for instance. But anyway, this other guy, this other guy, man. Oh, yeah. He's like, you will be first against the wall. Wow. Wait, wait, you know, wait until it happens, blah, blah, blah. And then out of nowhere, he's like and he's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:41 you should be afraid. And I'm going to call your employers. I said, I'm going to call the people who employ you. And I was like, there it is. This guy doesn't know who I am at all. Cancel culture. I'm coming after you, Tim. Try that with me. Listen, listen. Try to call my employer.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Get me canceled. This is the point. The point I'm making about the far left and their tactics. Yeah. Cancel culture is real. They know it's real. And they know they can go to the average person and say, I'm going to your boss and they'll get scared yeah and they'll be like no no no please please please please and that's why all the polls say biden's winning perhaps because everyone's
Starting point is 00:43:13 like yeah i'm voting for biden click i loved it though i was like i was like who employs me wait talking about i i wish someone would try that with me call me i'd be like here you go here's his number i wouldn't give out your number. You know what I would do if someone tried canceling you or Lydia or anybody? What? Tell us, please. I insist. You'd smash the like button? No, no, no. Here you go. I would respond by saying, sir or madam,
Starting point is 00:43:36 I take these concerns very seriously. I am shocked, shocked that those words would come out of Adam's mouth, and he never told me I'm going to give him a raise. I'm really impressed with what you were saying. Didn't Cassandra get a raise from her paper? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:52 She did, yeah. So for those that don't know, Cassandra Fairbanks works for Gateway Pundit, but she also has her own paper. And someone threatened to cancel her. They hit up the paper. Yeah, they hit up the paper. They were bombarding her paper. Cancel Cassandra.
Starting point is 00:44:06 And then she responded from her corporate account saying, you know, we're shocked and appalled by this. We're absolutely going to take action immediately by giving her a raise and a bunch of exclamation points. Genius. But here's the point I'm making, right? They know, like we mentioned, creeping normality. Yeah. the far left knows they can threaten you with violence and you can do nothing here's what they do they don't say something like i will hurt you what they say is next time i you know next time i see you you better you should be very worried about the people who and and you know what they'll do to you they make sure they don't cross the line to making an overt threat an indirect indirect threat. But they want you to feel threatened.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Right. And actually this person may have broken the law because of the jurisdiction they're in. But then they do things like cancel culture. Hey, I'm also going to call your boss. What am I supposed to say to that even if I had a job? Let's say I worked at McDonald's. Am I going to be like, oh no! I'm so sorry. I agree with you now.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I will delete my posts. Like what do they think is going to happen but it shows they really do view this low tier terrorism as an effective tool it's death by a thousand cuts yeah cancel culture it's their new machine gun we are at a point now
Starting point is 00:45:18 where they know you can't call their boss because they won't do anything like the easiest example you got a video of a dude walking with a six-year-old daughter in New York City. Terrible video. Shot, killed, no riots, no protests, no brand message. Nope.
Starting point is 00:45:33 No flags, no Facebook, nothing. Because if it doesn't fit their institutional control, it doesn't matter. Yeah, that really pisses me off. That video tears me apart that tore me up watching that video yeah it's messed up so here's what happens if you are not in league with their ideology and you if i were to call this guy's boss and say he's threatening me they're gonna be like i don't care you know i told someone about that i was making these these i was having a private conversation with uh somebody from this
Starting point is 00:46:06 thread you know who is a closer friend of mine talking about these things that are happening and he didn't believe it where well where did you get your information from yeah i i saw the video with my own eyes oh on youtube oh you saw YouTube? Well, YouTube isn't a credible source. It's more of a social media platform. I was like, are you kidding me? Like, I saw the video. I watched the girl run away. Like, how is that not like something that actually happened? How?
Starting point is 00:46:38 Explain to me why you're not in outrage right now. Well, change can happen. They want to hear from some woke journalist that it happened. and they'll believe it yeah yeah well so here's what happens if i call this guy's boss and say he's threatening me they're going to be like i'm sorry about that but what do we get what do you want us to do about it if he calls you know like a theater worker's boss for instance and says they were they were saying all these things, you know, the theater is going to be like, we're so sorry. We'll fire them immediately.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Because they, you know, people know what you're allowed to criticize and what you're not allowed to criticize. Case in point. Let me see if I have this tweet right here. Ladies and gentlemen, it is now legal for you to paint a political message that supports Black Lives Matter. And if you paint over it, that is a hate crime. We now have this breaking story from KCBS 106.9. The Martinez couple caught on video painting over the approved Black Lives Matter mural are being charged with a
Starting point is 00:47:38 hate crime. That's from the Contra Costa County District Attorney's Office. Yep. Hate crime. Wow. It is a hate crime. So here's my concern. First, the mural was approved by the city. Yep. Why is the city approving people's right to paint on the street?
Starting point is 00:47:57 Yeah, I don't understand it. What pisses me off is we talked about this yesterday after the show. You can burn an american flag legally yep but if you burn a rainbow flag hate crime that's a hate crime yes it is how is burning an american flag not a hate crime you are basically saying you hate america that's not what hate crime means oh oh minorities right is that what it is protected classes protected classes yep so if you if you burn an american, they will cheer for you and say free speech. And if you burn a rainbow flag, they will say hate speech.
Starting point is 00:48:30 It's a hate crime. So that's actually because the argument is that by burning the rainbow flag, you're intimidating a protected class. So there is a difference, though. I want to make sure I'm clear. In the specific case where this came up, it was because the guy burned the rainbow flag and then threw it in front of a gay bar, I think. Oh, okay. And so they argued that that was, you know, intimidation. However, the argument is that people routinely burn flags at public events for people who support America, and it's not.
Starting point is 00:48:59 So there's got to be. Yeah, well, what's a bigger platform than the Internet now? That is the largest platform that we have access to. Everyone has access to it. So it's much bigger than one bar. It reaches everybody. Anyone can share it, and it can reach anyone. So what's the difference?
Starting point is 00:49:15 It's a hate crime. The burning the American flag? All of them. Well, hold on, hold on. All illegal or none of it. National origin is a protected class. Oh, like American. So National origin is a protected class. Oh, like American. So then it is a hate crime.
Starting point is 00:49:26 So if you're burning the American flag specifically to make a point to intimidate or shock people from America, which I'd argue makes sense, I'm pretty sure national origin is protected. You want to look that up? National origin. Yeah, I think it is. It should either all be legal or all be illegal. I'm sick of this hypocrisy. It's ridiculous. That's liberalism.
Starting point is 00:49:46 The true definition, not the colloquial. I really hate when people call the left liberals. They are not liberals. They have not been liberals for a very, very long time. I don't think they know the true meaning of liberal. Enlighten us, Tim. Well, liberal is a wide encompassing view that basically means government through the consent of the governed. Which means that the true definition of the word, it know, through the consent of the governed. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Which means that the true definition of the word, it's why you hear people say they're classical liberals. Okay. So this is a reference to like the early American revolution. Conservatives. So the United States is what's called a liberal democracy. It's not a reference to being leftist or being a democracy. It's a reference to the institutions we use, democratic voting process and liberalismism in the sense that we give our consent to be governed to varying degrees.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I know a lot of people are like, I don't agree with taxes. It's theft. It's like, but we were born here in a system that was already created, so we can have that argument. But typically, Western countries are called liberal democracies. The left is anti-liberal. They are illiberal. Illiberal meaning they don't believeliberal. They are illiberal. Okay, illiberal meaning they don't believe in free speech. They don't believe in individual freedoms. They don't believe
Starting point is 00:50:49 that the consent of the government is required for the government to tell them what to do. Well, you can speak free if you believe exactly the way they do. So this is actually, listen, the liberalism thing is all,
Starting point is 00:51:01 it all makes sense. These are people who believe that the world will end because of climate change, because individuals refuse to adhere to the way they see the world. So if, you know, you got that aluminum can right there, well, why don't you use recyclable bamboo cans or whatever or something? Actually, those metal cans are very, very recyclable. Well, why don't you use recyclable bamboo cans or whatever or something? Actually, metal cans are very, very recyclable. Oh, but the recycling process produces a ton of CO2. If you used bamboo, it could be biodegradable.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I'm sure all of their computers that they're tweeting on are even more detrimental. Excuse me. I'm more effective this way. How dare you, bigot? I'm allowed to do these things and you're not. That's illiberalism. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Rules for thee, but not for me. I'm seeing it everywhere. So these people are like, they really think this way. I should be able to, you know, I should be able to use computers because I'm fighting to save the world. And if only these other people stopped, the world would be saved. Yeah. So they want to be the kings. So they can force you to live in a bamboo hut with a loincloth and no technology. They'll have the technology to make sure everyone lives properly the way they see fit. Yeah, that's ridiculous. But that's literally what the far left advocates for.
Starting point is 00:52:13 It is the opposite of liberal. So right now you have I think, you know, I think it's funny whenever you see people arguing about what is or isn't the factions of the culture war. Okay. And it really is just, I love it. I really do love it. First of all, one of the first things I heard is, I think it was Milo Yiannopoulos who said this, it's authoritarianism versus libertarianism. You have the authoritarian factions who want to tell you how to live your life.
Starting point is 00:52:38 And then you have the libertarian factions who want to respect individuality and stuff like that. I think that makes a lot of sense. I do too. But then I've heard people say, no, that's not true. It's the nationalists versus the globalists. And I'm like, I actually don't agree with that because I'm not like an overt nationalist in that sense.
Starting point is 00:52:54 But maybe that makes sense a little bit. I mean, everyone's different. This is the issue. Everyone wants to put everyone on this like in each thing. No, no, no. I mean, everyone can be different. Everyone can have a little bit of aspects of everything. It's like, it's whether you're letting your emotions control it or, you know, the logical side of it control it.
Starting point is 00:53:14 There's someone else's definition of what the factions of the culture war is. You're absolutely right. And there's different versions of that for every single person. We are all different then when you listen to the academic intellectual dark web types they say the culture wars between groups with a post-modern worldview of subjective truth versus those who believe in objective reality okay and i'm like these are all kind of true right but it's like maybe that's just not like one faction in one faction maybe it's like a an umbrella and an umbrella and there's agreements like, I don't base my identity around nationalism.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I do love America. But I don't walk around thinking, like, oh, no, they're threatening to dissolve our borders and stuff. My thing is more about individual freedoms, respect, whether it's in this country or anyone else's. You know, the cancel culture extends to the UK. I have friends in the UK who are subjected to this stuff. But then there are people whose identity is purely based on nationalism and protecting America. And so we might find that we agree on many issues because of what America stands for. And then their view is like, here's what cancel culture really is.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Ultimately, what I think cancel culture comes down to is whether or not you believe in – I believe authoritarian versus libertarian is the best way to view it. I really do. Because, you know, you end up with like Dave Rubin, a gay married man, classical liberal, having a sit-down conversation with Ben Shapiro, an Orthodox Jew, where Ben straight up says, I don't agree with, you know, how you live your life. And they're friends having a conversation in complete disagreement. And that's what, you know, you can see two people who clearly are of different factions in agreement about what's more important to them, living peacefully together, versus what the other side is trying to do to them, you know. So it's really interesting when
Starting point is 00:54:55 you look at, there was a graph charting Clinton voters and Trump voters. Trump voters were ideologically across the spectrum, except for social justice, like intersectionalism. Of course. Clinton voters were clustered almost entirely. And so among Trump's base, you had some people who were, you had half conservative, half liberal
Starting point is 00:55:14 on economic policy and cultural policy. When it came to Hillary Clinton, it was all, it was like a huge far left cluster of intersectionality and like racial justice stuff. What a surprise. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:24 So I think that makes sense. Trump won with a weird coalition they did not expect he could pull off. cluster of intersectionality and like racial justice stuff what a surprise yeah yeah so i think that makes sense trump won with a weird coalition they did not expect he could pull off oh man i saw a video today of all the the pundits talking about how it was a joke he's a clown i can't believe he's running no no no trump back this was like 2015. Oh, man. It's hilarious. One of the most classic clips is when Ann Coulter was on Bill Maher. Yes, exactly. Of the Republicans running now, who do you think has a chance to win? And she goes, of them now,
Starting point is 00:55:54 Donald Trump. And then everyone laughs. And she held her ground, though. She was like, I'm serious. I was like, man, she called it. Everybody. But pay attention to what she's saying, because she has not been too kind to Trump yeah no no way yeah she's been tearing into him so i have to wonder about some of these higher profile people who may be in on the know and maybe seeing some some you know inner dialogue like you know inner circle dialogues what do they really know maybe
Starting point is 00:56:21 trump isn't gonna win listen man in 2016 i was like there's no way they would let trump win well i didn't vote in 2016 a lot of people are telling me they didn't vote ever they didn't vote for many years doesn't matter i'm hearing it all the time thanks for standing up thanks for saying that i've never voted but i'm absolutely voting i'm absolutely paying attention i hear you you're right though it forced everyone to be political to be into the into this and i mean everyone's seeing the crazy hypocrisy that's happening from covid to the that's true you're not allowed to go to churches that they're canceling church like really you can't go to church you can't you can't sing like i'm not i'm not very religious but man this this is a free country, and you should be able to go worship whoever you want to worship.
Starting point is 00:57:08 So the hypocrisy is driving me crazy, and I know it's driving a lot of others crazy. Well, all that may be, Adam, but the one thing you're forgetting is, will they cheat? An election? Yep. Yes. Well, I mean, every single time i look over that ballot right there and then i think about how biden's making it a big deal that trump's gonna cheat trump's gonna cheat trump's like no no i'm gonna i'll leave like no i'm good if i lose i lose and what if they cheat
Starting point is 00:57:37 look today is election how would we know listen listen how would we know that That's my question. I'll tell you. Today's election day. So I got a primary ballot application, mail-in ballot application. Okay. I received no notice for what it was for. Okay. I had no idea why I received it. There was no notice in the mail saying, here's a big explanation of what's happening, why it's happening, and here's what you need to do. So one day I see we have mail. What is it?
Starting point is 00:58:04 An official mail-in ballot sitting right there for someone who does not live here. Yeah. Who didn't request one. of what's happening, why it's happening, and here's what you need to do. So one day, I see we have mail. What is it? An official mail-in ballot sitting right there for someone who does not live here, who didn't request one. I get an application. I do live here. Today's election day. I didn't vote. You know why? I had no idea where to go, and I couldn't figure it out.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Really? Well, first of all, I have very little time throughout the day. You know, I have a window of like two hours after my first session that we start preparing for this show. So once I finished, I went to the website where they were like, here's where all the information you need. Nothing was there. Then someone said, it's all mail-in voting.
Starting point is 00:58:33 There's no, there's no ballot boxes anymore. That leads me to believe we won't. It's possible. We won't see record voter turnout. We'll see record low voter turnout. How many people are like, I have no idea how to do this? Look, man, when I voted before, they're like, I wake up and they beg, it's voting day. And then I would make a phone call or go online and be like, here's your voting location.
Starting point is 00:58:56 I walk in. There's the sign. I walk up. Now I can vote. Yeah. Today, I have no idea what's going on. It should be a holiday. Well, you can make that argument. But the point is, I don't know where to go yeah the website was down the website didn't
Starting point is 00:59:10 work and so i was like i don't know what i don't know i'm supposed to do not like i care to vote anyway vote i guess vote in the democratic primary yeah all right wait wait give me that button right now which one i need to hit that button we have we have a special surprise for this right now. But you've got to hold it up to the microphone. I will. Oh, I will. Can I get my zoom in shot? Tim has to do that one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:59:32 You guys ready for this? How dare you? Yes. Someone sent us that. Do it again. Do it again. How dare you? How dare I what?
Starting point is 00:59:39 Not vote? How dare you? So we actually need to get the the sound bar with with like the good but somebody did this recording where you press it it's pretty good whoever sent that to us thank you that's amazing thank you very much how dare you button um we gotta get the soundboard going what are we doing well we have priorities we're about move. We're prepping and moving. I didn't know what I was going to vote for anyway. It's primary day.
Starting point is 01:00:09 There's a couple people running for the Democratic primary in our district. I don't really care all that much. To be honest, I was like, I would go and vote at the last minute if I knew what to do. But considering it was like, I don't know, so I guess I'm not going to go. Yeah. going to go yeah so so my question is you look in 2016 i was talking to some uh some personalities some finance personalities who told me that they thought because they were in europe at the time based on the media reports trump was a clown joke that everyone hated and they thought clinton had it in the bag oh earthquake i think you just hit the camera yeah yeah you just totally knocked the
Starting point is 01:00:44 camera i didn't do that it's all good that was a cat can you uh i'll fix it so they were they were in europe at the time and they saw all the media reports saying hillary clinton was gonna win yeah then they came back to the united states actually landed go this way left a little bit more a little more there you go no little less so so hold on when they got here it's fine okay when they got here they saw the trump signs everywhere and that's when they realized trump was going to win and then trump won that point i think is interesting when you bring up where when you drive around here this blue district yep it's like d plus 13 i think yep you you drive around here and you see all the trump signs i never saw a biden sign i'll tell you that yeah there's no biden signs man oh i saw trump
Starting point is 01:01:29 signs there's there's trump signs around the neighborhood whoa i wonder if like a biden sign is a rare collector's item like it might be worth money already maybe so because i've never i've never seen one that's funny have any has anybody listening seen a Biden sign? I have not. I'm not kidding. I haven't. No, I'm not joking. I'm trying to figure it out. I'm like, no, I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Somebody planted a Trump flag in the lake by our house. Yeah, man. No, it's true. And it's not a real lake you can actually go on. It's like a drainage ditch. Yeah, it's like a bog. Yeah, it's like a bog. Somebody went out there and planted a Trump flag.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Yeah. But the reason I brought up this story for 2016 is that even though there were people that were like wow as soon as I saw that I realized he'd win my mentality the whole time was like they'll never let him win I do not view like the system as I don't know fair these people these people are all super wealthy do nothing crony corrupt i view the whole system is broken and corrupt full of corrupt incumbents yep and then somehow trump won a lot of these old crony corrupt republicans have retired or quit you're like you know they're i'm out just ditching it there's plenty of democrats that have been around for 50 years yeah the system is just being occupied by lazy do nothings who are
Starting point is 01:02:42 just like it's you know the keys to the No, and they're ranking in money from lobbyists and stuff. Listen, man. Sitting, changing laws for whatever they feel like, basically. Trump wants to pull our troops out of Afghanistan. Yeah, what's wrong with that? Everybody's resisting it. I cannot imagine they would let him win. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:00 You know, whatever that means, I have no idea. But how could Trump possibly win in the face of a military industrial complex and crony politicians that are blocking him from bringing our troops home? Two words. Red pill. What do you mean? Everyone's getting red pilled. People are home from COVID. They're not working.
Starting point is 01:03:18 The Democrats did that. They're paying attention. Exactly my point. Yes, I know they did. It's going to backfire. Everyone's at home going, what are the Democrats doing? What's going on in these Democrat cities? Why would they do it?
Starting point is 01:03:30 Why? Yeah, why would they do it? Because they think that it's like when Bernie lost in 2016, right? The DNC knew that he took Hillary's voter base away from her right so if bernie wasn't there hillary might have won right it was a higher much higher chance that she would have won if if the bernie supporters just if bernie was never a part of the situation right i think it's possible no i know about the other day yeah that's what i'm referencing that conversation you know we talked about that.
Starting point is 01:04:07 They started pandering to the far left. Yeah, that's my point. They started pandering because they wanted that grassroots. They were like, oh, maybe that is what works. And you just said it's a big bubble of SJWs that that's who her voter base was already. Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton, right? No, I don't think Hillary's was.
Starting point is 01:04:24 No, that's what you just said earlier. What do you mean? When you were comparing Trump versus Hillary in the 2016 election, and Trump's supporters were all over the place with their ideologies, whereas Hillary's... Oh, no, no, that's the opposite. What? The conservatives have an ideology. The left didn't.
Starting point is 01:04:39 No, no, no. But you were talking specifically about Hillary versus Trump and how all the Trump supporters were kind of all over the place. But Hillary supporters were all in this little bubble. Oh, I'm referencing what you just told me. The Democratic voter 20 minutes ago. So on the on the graph of economic left and right. Yeah. Trump's was both liberal and conservative.
Starting point is 01:04:58 OK, so now moving forward. Now we're in 2020. They're going it's election year. We need to whip up all this grassroots movement. Get Black Lives Matter. There's this whole conspiracy about the Act Blue funding that's funding Biden's campaign. It's like all this stuff. It's like they're leaning in as hard as possible to try to get as many of these youth.
Starting point is 01:05:24 You see Pelosi saying we should lower the voting age to 16. It's like, I'm 36. I didn't know what I was doing politically until yesterday. And 18 is where we're at. 18? I had no clue. They would capture a lot of votes if they lowered it to 16. I know, and they know it.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Voter turnout among the youth is extremely low, but it's still more votes from the youth bracket if you get it to 16. I know, and they know it. Voter turnout among the youth is extremely low, but it's still more votes from the youth bracket if you get two more years. Right, so that's what I'm seeing. That's ridiculous. That's what this is all. It's all them leaning in to try to get as, to scoop in as many of these,
Starting point is 01:05:56 the SJW group, the minorities, the people that feel they're homeless, you know? What do you got, Lydia? I think this would backfire on them because I was reading a statistic earlier about how high schoolers are the most patriotic demographic. They don't change until they get into college for some reason. Yes, that's true. I saw that.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Interesting. That was really interesting. Yeah, college is where all of a sudden they get the white nationalist haircuts. What's up with that? I don't know. I don't get it. Why is it that all the women on the left have the same haircut as like the the far right or whatever yeah i don't know
Starting point is 01:06:29 far right makes sense i hate using that term because it doesn't really prop like you know i don't know whatever they shave their heads they they pull the hair up and then shave the side i don't know and it's like maybe it's because because it's it's a masculine look they want you know we we've talked about sex versus, like, male versus female a couple times. You know, how, like, when you're younger, a female is more, has more opportunities. And then it goes down as you go. And then the man, it's different. So as they get older, they see older men are more privileged in a sense.
Starting point is 01:07:04 You know, They get more. So it's not surprising to know that as they get older, they're like, well, I want a piece of that. I'm losing what I had and now I'm getting older and I'm losing some of that aspect of youth. I mean, not even yet, but you can kind of see how it would play a part. They want to be a little more masculine in a sense. What makes them so angry? Well, because most parents probably don't teach them that life sucks and you have to work hard.
Starting point is 01:07:33 But life doesn't. Snowplow parents. Yes, it does. If you aren't prepared for it, if you think you're entitled to everything, it sucks. I don't think. But if you know you've got to work for it, if you've got to get out into life and actually do work wake up every day and actually work towards something then it's not that hard because it's it's something you're used to but when you're when your parents are like oh no you got we got this let me clear all of the problems away from you life is amazing right
Starting point is 01:07:58 i guess it sucks then but no no whether or not you are happy or sad has nothing to do with your abilities it has to do with whether you're optimistic or pessimistic okay these people have become the ultimate pessimists well what well yeah of course because they think they grew up thinking that it was going to be easy for them no no no no no it's it's everything's evil everyone's racist the world is is pure evil america is a nazi empire they have they view everything through the lens of pure evil and darkness and so they're extremely just angry but that but it doesn't explain where the anger comes from why are they so angry it's it's an addiction they're addicted to that anger they they it's it's like a like a an avalanche with a snowball that's slowly growing and growing of anger in colleges
Starting point is 01:08:43 and whatever and it's it's running over the people that are getting to college. Yeah, they want to be angry. They want to be angry. And they're like, oh, I can jump into this snowball that's just getting bigger and bigger with the people that are angry also. And so they're spreading that message. Come be angry with us. Let's go be angry together at the system that is trying to bring us down.
Starting point is 01:09:03 And it's like, well, you don't even want to work for it you just want to be angry let go of the anger and do some work that's that comic where the guy's like i'm mad yeah the guy's like here's a solution i don't want a solution i want to be angry exactly they do want to be i know that's that's what i see you know i was i was told this when i was a kid some people they like being unhappy definitely they. They like it. And when I was little, I didn't quite understand. It seems like, to a child's mind, paradoxical.
Starting point is 01:09:30 How could you like not liking something? No, no, no. You have to understand the complexities. That negative feeling when they wake up and they wallow in self-pity,
Starting point is 01:09:39 it's satisfying to them in some capacity. Well, and, you know, when you come across the first person that sees that and goes, oh, let me help you. Let me be there for you. It feels so good. No, I disagree.
Starting point is 01:09:56 How? How does that not make sense? When you try engaging with these people who are screaming, they don't respond by being happy. You're not engaging to these people like that, sir. No, no, no. Now, I'm talking about that snowball. That snowball that's rolling down.
Starting point is 01:10:10 They're the ones that are going to the people that are victims in their own perception. When I have these interviews and conversations out on the street, when I... You are not that person. Yes. You seriously do not understand the past 10 years of my life when i would go down to these parks when i was in occupy wall street okay and someone would start ranting about oppression and stuff and i would be like i hear you man i'm so sorry that happens to you they respond with more anger more anger okay straight up i would i was talking to one very high
Starting point is 01:10:43 profile black lives matter person sure who was doing this big rant. Someone tagged me in it for some reason because it was something I covered. And I responded by saying directly to the guy, I hear you, man. I'm sorry about those experiences. Tell me what's going on. And his response was to condemn me and just go angrier times ten. I have been on the ground where I've interviewed people where they're really, really angry. And I'm like, would you like to tell me what what's going on? No, no, no. Cause
Starting point is 01:11:08 you're part of the problem screaming. And I'll be like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I had no idea. No, don't tell me you're sorry. You're not sorry. They get angrier and angrier. Okay. That doesn't prove that doesn't prove me wrong. That's what that's you personally, you went, went, I'm talking about as a whole, I'm talking about the average. They do not feel satisfaction when you when when i'm talking about as a whole i'm talking about the average they do not feel satisfaction when you when you calmly talk to them and be nice to them they'll feel satisfaction when you cry and cower in fear and say please don't take my job from me then they're satisfied you aren't a victim you you don't walk around as a victim it takes a victim to go oh i'm a victim too i understand that's not where you come. Dude, you're confident. I'm sorry, you cannot hide your confidence ever,
Starting point is 01:11:48 no matter what. Same with me, I can't hide that. I'm a confident person. Hold on, no, no. You're a confident person. You walk up to that person and you say, man, I feel you. They see that confidence. They don't see you as a victim.
Starting point is 01:11:59 And they go, you know what? That's a lie. I don't believe you at all. That's the point. The point is- Exactly what my point is. Yes. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:12:06 That when these people are screaming and then you finally come up to them and give them, you know what they're looking for. I didn't I didn't say necessarily you. I wasn't saying it like that. You're talking about this. This behavior of trying to accommodate, accommodate them or empathize does not result in what you're saying it results in. Yeah, because it takes because it's the victims.
Starting point is 01:12:26 It's the ones that group together. They're the ones that are like, I feel you because I'm a victim for sure. I'm totally a victim. I'm vulnerable. That's not what happens. The only way to actively function in the circle with these people not screaming is to say literally nothing or to cry. You can't start this conversation by saying i don't understand how
Starting point is 01:12:45 this happens and then finish it by going that's wrong that's not the way it is i'm sorry no but i'm right okay i've been on the ground i've covered this for over a decade okay you're you you're sitting here telling me i'm not telling you anything i'm just telling you i'm telling you what i'm what my view of what this is you said i don't understand this i said this is what i think it is right okay so what period so so right now you're being the anti-vaxxer okay i've got experience on the ground i was embedded with these groups for years sure and i'll tell you exactly what happens why it happens what they've said to me explain these things and everything i've seen over the past nine years and your confidence is undeniable man and i'm not even talking about
Starting point is 01:13:24 myself i'm talking about myself. I'm talking about in general, when you're at a protest and you see a woman walk up to another woman who's screaming and she's like, are you okay? And the woman goes, get the F away from me, you effing, and screams in her face. When you see two women who are fighting each other in a park, when Antifa fights themselves, when they try to cancel each other, the only thing that works around these people is saying and doing nothing when they start screaming and ranting and they're full of rage people just stand there and nod and that's it you just nothing you can say to them okay I don't want a solution they want to be
Starting point is 01:13:54 angry but this is this is in occupy you you went talking specifically but so you want you we're talking about colleges right after high school they get indoctrinated in in the college situation right that's what we're discussing this is where i was at this is what i'm talking about so this this is what i think is going on so you you were saying that you went to colleges you've seen that in colleges where they're where all this is happening like when nick kristakis was talking to the kids on no no i'm talking about you personally yes and i've been to berkeley and i've been to syracuse and a bunch of other universities while the stuff was going down and i've witnessed this
Starting point is 01:14:29 firsthand and experienced it when i tried doing similar things okay and there's a really good example in nick christakis the professor who was accused of being a bigot because he said something about halloween costumes and they surrounded him and no matter what he said to them even when he said i'm so sorry i agree they said shut up you don't speak and they yelled. And no matter what he said to them, even when he said, I'm so sorry, I agree. They said, shut up. You don't speak. And they yelled at him no matter what he would do. And that's that was a very famous viral moment. And there are many more with professors like him where you cannot say anything to these people at all. OK. And they tell you that or the or the guy at Evergreen when he's talking, waving his hands and they tell you to stop waving your hands. It's racist. And then he does. And they all laugh at him.
Starting point is 01:15:07 But these are the people that are already in the circle. They're already indoctrinated. They're the ones that are already speaking out, that are already angry. They're the ones that are already in these groups. That's who you're referring to right now. It's like a group of kids. But how does it happen? How do they how does it how do they catch the new people by the people that are just standing on the side, just shaking their head yes, and then they suddenly snap and turn into it? Well, that's the question I'm asking. What makes them so angry?
Starting point is 01:15:32 And that's what I was referring to. What were you saying that makes them angry? No, no, no. I was saying what brings them into it. Yeah, what makes them angry is everything pisses them off. Everything. They thrive in that anger so because what bill de blasio's daughter okay like you you've referenced her before i mean i i
Starting point is 01:15:51 only in the fact that she went into college looking one way and and exited college looking a complete like crazy eyes i don't know anything about her i don't i'm you know who am i to say anything about her because that's the only thing I know about her is that she looks completely different after high school and that she's now an activist in New York. It's a meme. You know, they say college, not even once. I see the meme, yeah. And they show like people before college and after college.
Starting point is 01:16:15 What happens to where normal people, and I know people like this, who all of a sudden can't stop and have a conversation because they're dialed to 11 nonstop. No matter what they do, no matter what you say, everything's at 11. Have you heard the elephant mind versus the writer mind? No. I just watched this earlier. Really good little back and forth interview with Carlin. And it was great.
Starting point is 01:16:39 And basically what it means is the elephant mind is your emotional side. And the writer mind is basically being controlled by the elephant until you finally rein it in and you gain control of your more rational side, the more logical side of the human brain. And it seems to me that these people are it's basically like the reins of the elephant per se has been, they've lost, they broke they have the reins in their hands they're holding it really tight but it broke and the elephant is just running rampant there's and there's no
Starting point is 01:17:10 stopping it it's like a stampede that's what i see that's happening that that anger is is run unchecked for so long backing off or bouncing off rather other people that are equally angry making it more anger and that anger just is getting perpetuated into this like hot mess. And that's what we're seeing. You know, it's like, it's so easy to want to be lazy, to blame others for your problems.
Starting point is 01:17:38 People want to do that, especially when we're growing up without parents, you know, where we, we want to be a part of something. So you get to college, you're finally out of the home, which might not have even been a good situation. Boom, they hit, you know, this crowd of people that, I mean, you're pissed off. Now you're angry.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Like, I have to go do work. I have to, like, get up and actually do stuff, like, whatever. I mean, not everybody. Some people just drink their whole college careers. But, you know, others just get angry. I think it's specifically no parents it's yeah maybe maybe it is i mean the statistics don't lie it's absolutely if you have no parents or a one parent home like i've looked into this now and it's you're absolutely right i mean like weak parents true and so it's parents that aren't even there i mean what's the difference you know if
Starting point is 01:18:23 you're not raising your kids if you if you hand them an ipad that's not raising your kids that's them learning and and doing the algorithm till they get you know dancing hitler right yeah it's like it's crazy it's it's like somebody flicked a switch in their brains that can't be turned off yep and they're just wads of anger and rage you ever seen the video it? It's called This Video Will Make You Angry by CGP Grey. No, I haven't seen it. He basically talks about how internet communities breed hatred. Okay. And it becomes, you know what's funny is because he basically predicted all of this was going to happen.
Starting point is 01:18:55 The culture war, for instance. And he talks about how groups don't actually argue against each other. They argue amongst themselves about the other group. Okay. And they keep exaggerating the claims until they've become so enraged that they're just wads of anger. And that, you know, they talk about how video and social media stuff, how it plays
Starting point is 01:19:16 into this. So memes, for instance, circulate among groups about the other group and they never actually interact. So, I don't know. It's an interesting idea. But the reason I was bringing this up is because i remember that video of the white woman yelling at the black cop yeah and the guy approaches her and he was like you know he's a black cop right or it was a woman right and and she's and the guy says like what makes you think this is okay and the woman's eyes oh man fervent she was like how dare well you can always tell too because they don't start with a with a
Starting point is 01:19:46 tone of voice like this it always is up here it's 11 always always it's like they're on math screeching like you know you can see the heart is pumping the adrenaline is flowing they wanted they oh you you turned on me i can i'm to open the floodgates of anger on you. And it's like everyone who sees that who's a rational human being is like, whoa. You need to calm down. We need to figure out how to have a conversation. I mean, I think there are ways to try and diffuse people. One of the challenges, going back to the conversation about the insidious nature of the far left,
Starting point is 01:20:24 is that they actively try to stop any attempt by a person to break someone from the cult. You're in the cult. They act as like defense mechanisms screeching with rage to shut down any conversation. But they literally do this. Like an example would be if you walked up to one of these people and you actually started having a conversation, they would run up to you and get in the way and start telling you to shut up and then start chanting. You can see it, right? There was a video with Jack Posobiec, conservative, talking to a black man in D.C. and they immediately rush up and try and stop him from doing it. And I think it was Jack. Was it Jack? That was Jack. Yeah. He's like, sure. He's like,
Starting point is 01:20:59 I'm trying to have a conversation with with my friends here. And they're just like screaming at him. Shut up. Shut up. because they don't want people to actually hear. They don't want people to come together. They want to maintain that anger and rage within you. Well, I certainly see that right now. It feels like the left slash Democrats, they're trying to slam home this division between everyone, and it's like, I won't have it. I got these people that are and you know it's great i'm seeing people stand up they're they're starting to look out for each other
Starting point is 01:21:30 you know it's like no you're not going to talk to to this person like that like you're the one who's wrong you know it's like even on my facebook this this infamous facebook tweet or you know whatever it is this post yeah you know and it's like there's people that I've known my whole life that are now writing on this, calling this guy out for being wrong and explaining calmly. And I'm like, these are the rational people. He was an emotional person. He was not thinking coherently. He was screeching at me.
Starting point is 01:22:02 He turned it up to 11. There are people on the right who have turned it to 11 like you know i i go on what's the ratio of people on the left is way more than the right absolutely 100 otherwise i wouldn't be saying the things i do for the most part but it really does bum me out like i i post i parlayed about this that the right terminology on parlay parlor i parlayed uh the krasensteins are there and they're lying anything about them what's they're why i didn't think about them what's they're just like who are these guys keep hearing their name super anti-trump okay really annoying they're uh-huh they were ubiquitous oh they're anti-trump oh super anti-trump
Starting point is 01:22:34 well why did they get booted off twitter because they were they were accused of running multiple accounts oh okay and they were like they were everywhere every replying to everybody and so they joined parlor and i'm like, excellent, excellent. Bring on more anti-Trump people. Because what we end up with is a Twitter and a Parler that have their various biases in terms of banning speech. You'll have two different spaces where different conversations happen. Better than just Twitter, right? Agreed.
Starting point is 01:23:01 But I look at the comments on this guy's post, and there's a bunch of conservative people cussing him out and telling him to f off and just really nasty things yeah and i'm like why yeah why would you do that you know but but i i will say you look at this is a this is a common trope among the far left it's called a right-wing love bomb they they they understand and they hate it and they refuse to understand why it works they'll say like a regular person will get all of this love from the right saying you're so great you're so smart you know that's that's really great thanks for having a conversation and it convinces them to become right wing and i'm like yeah well duh right what do you think if i walk into a if i if i'm if i'm if here's I explain it. I'm in the middle of the street.
Starting point is 01:23:45 I look to my right. There's a bar with a bunch of MAGA people with Trump hats waving flags and they're hooting and hollering. I look to my left. It's a bunch of Antifa people wearing, you know, masks with crowbars. And then I walk over to the left wing side and they go, who the F are you, bigot? What are you talking about? No, I'm in China. Everyone's screaming.
Starting point is 01:23:58 I'm going to be like, geez. Then I walk across the street and they're like, yo, buddy, come have a beer over, over with us. Yeah. And then I'll go, well, I mean, I'm not really a Trump fan. Hey, no problem, man. Come on in. I'll get you a beer.
Starting point is 01:24:08 We'll have a conversation. And that's hypothetical, right? I mean, technically, it's actually. Well, look, let me tell you, I am right there right now. I'm standing on that street. I'm seeing these people on the left that I've known for a long time screeching at me, screaming at me. You know, that Mark's post that I did on Twitter the other day or like last week. It's insane the amount of people that are freaking out about it on both sides,
Starting point is 01:24:35 screeching at each other. But man, all the rational people that are coming up to me going, you know, props for opening your eyes. It's like, just that alone right there're it doesn't matter what i believe in it's like a simple hey good for you that's that's really what i'm hearing good for you like good on you for for furthering yourself opening your eyes it's not like i'm glad you're even here which i have gotten but like the majority is just like good job like i'm proud of you like good for you man go and go into a like pro trump group or forum or or post on facebook something where you say something like i'm not a big fan of trump and you know i think we should we need to get him out of
Starting point is 01:25:18 office right okay and the response you typically get not completely but typically from conservatives is you'll get a response where it's like what what's your problem with Trump? What has he done? Why do you hate him so much? Yeah, the questioning. And then when you say something like he's racist, they'll be like, what has he ever done that's racist? Give me an example. I love that because I know a lot of stuff about him now. Now go to an anti-Trump forum and post, I like Trump. I think I'm going to vote for him. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:39 And you know what's going to happen. They'll ban you in two seconds. That's true. So listen, I'll make sure it's clear. It's like a two to one ratio. It exists on the right. If you go to, say, the Donald dot win and you post something negative about Trump, they're going to delete it. I did go to that site and I joined it. Oh, did you?
Starting point is 01:25:59 Yeah, I was like, I'm going to see what this is all about. So it is an echo chamber of Trump love. Yeah. But again, the reason I mention it is because there's also r slash politics on Reddit. It's supposed to be a neutral political forum. It is just basically anti-Trump. It's the Donald dot lose. If you go to r slash politics and post a pro-Donald Trump story, erased.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Wow. If you go to r slash news. Sounds like Facebook. Gone. Yeah. So this is why it really is a bummer there's no neutral platform for these kind of debates. Yeah. You can't post anti-Trump stuff on the Donald.win.
Starting point is 01:26:38 For obvious reasons, it's dedicated to Trump supporters. It's the Donald.win. R slash politics should be neutral. You should be able to talk good and bad about Trump. True. Yeah. And then R slash Biden should be pro Biden and anti Trump. Right.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Instead, the supposed neutral platform will ban you for saying good things about Trump. This is the perfect example of what's going on in modern politics. Yeah. Typically, I just tell you straight up. I have been in tons of far left events and hangouts and they do not tolerate dissent. And I've been threatened. I go to an event with a bunch of Trump supporters and I calmly laid out my discussion about institutional racism. And they all were like, I never thought about it that way. I disagree. And then we had, you know, like shrimp dip or
Starting point is 01:27:24 something, eating chips and we sat there and they're all like yay trump and i was like well here's here's how i see these issues of social justice and they were like i don't i don't agree with that though and that was it yeah i disagree and i was like okay oh classic getting the beer classic conversations well it's because uh when you look at civil civil conversations this goes back to what i was talking about with the far left you can see this nature of their tactics this is why i'm i'm uh i'm not entirely confident on trump winning they cheat they don't just cheat in terms of like we're gonna rig the election they cheat in terms of discourse yep trump's deleting anyone that's
Starting point is 01:28:00 right that speaks out my video you're of me just simply going, I don't like the Democrats anymore. I'm going to vote for Trump. Banned. Boom. Got banned. 2.4 million views and they went, uh-oh, better delete that. That's spreading way too fast. Donald Trump comes out and he goes, my fellow Americans, we will build a tremendous garden of heroes. Frederick Douglass,
Starting point is 01:28:20 Harriet Tubman, heroes of the Civil War. Everybody agrees it'll be tremendous. And then what happens? Donald Trump says he's going to build statues of Confederates. He thinks the Confederates are heroes. It's like it's crazy. They're lying. They're making it up. Latent lying. I know it's insane. They will cheat. I 100 percent agree. I think they're cheating now. You're right. So scary. So look, man, you look at Russiagate and it was what did we learn about Russiagate? For those that don't know, it was nothing. There were several high profile people who were going on CNN and MSNBC saying, I have
Starting point is 01:28:51 seen the evidence. It exists. Trump did this. Right. And then what were they saying when they testified privately? I have not seen any events. I have no idea. Right.
Starting point is 01:29:00 And then it wasn't until this year the evidence actually came out. They made it all up. They were cheating. Not only they. I'm this year the evidence actually came out. They made it all up. They were cheating. Not only they. I'm sorry. It's not just they. Biden did this. Right.
Starting point is 01:29:11 With Obama. Like they both sat together and they plotted this out. We don't know to what extent, but we know they were involved. We know they were involved. That's all I need to know. That Joe Biden. That's proof. There's proof.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Joe Biden's been caught in several lies now. Exactly. Why were they going after Michael Flynn? And now Michael Flynn has basically been exonerated. Well, I don't want to say exonerated because the political disparity in perspective, but the charges are gone. See, these are the kind of things that make me think that there's no way Trump's part of the deep state because they wanted the deep state was trying to stop him from becoming president. The conspiracy is that it's all sure you show to make you think, of course, but I don't believe the conspiracy either. I don't know. They
Starting point is 01:29:55 destroyed Michael Flynn's life. They did. And they even admitted this was in part of the notes that in the conversation with I think you, you might want to fact check me on this one. I'm pretty sure though. In the conversation they had with Obama and Biden, someone said, the FBI notes showed Michael Flynn's conversation with Kislyak was on the level. Yeah. And they were like, we'll go after him anyway. Yep. So, you know, Obama's there. Biden is there. Yep. Biden did an unmasking request. It's a really, really complicated story. And this is really, really complicated story. And this is what's really hard for the American people is to understand what happened with this.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Yeah, the web of what it all is. Long story short, Michael Flynn was a national security advisor. He had a conversation with a Russian ambassador, I believe, asking him not to escalate sanction wars, saying, you know, please let us come in and do our thing before this escalation. That was it. Yeah. The conversation was on the level. Most people agreed.
Starting point is 01:30:49 In an informal meeting at the White House with no legal counsel present, Michael Flynn said he didn't talk to Kislyak. And they went, gotcha. He just lied to an FBI agent. And then they claimed that was grounds. They went to him and said, if you do not plead guilty we will investigate your son and so michael flynn said i'll do whatever you want the threat yep yeah it was joe biden they think that joe biden actually personally raised the idea of investigating michael flynn he mentioned
Starting point is 01:31:15 the logan it was biden who mentioned the logan neck right yeah long story short michael flynn did nothing wrong literally nothing wrong it was in in his official duties, his job. It was an incoming and national security advisor having a conversation with another country. And they found an obscure way to force him and threatening his family to plead guilty so that they could keep pushing this fake theory of Russian collusion. They cheated. They lied. The whole thing was a scam. Yep. And I'm surprised Trump was able to win on that one because they were doing it for years investigating him.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Now, to be fair, Trump made a whole bunch of banana peel moments, slipping around and falling, you know, firing Comey. Doesn't have the best tact. But he still ended up winning on that one. And now they're going for the same strategy. Trump's going to cheat again. It's like, no, I think you're going to cheat. You never accepted the results of 2016. You hate Trump.
Starting point is 01:32:04 You've been accusing him of scandal for scandal. Trying to impeach him since he got in office. I think if Trump gets reelected, we're going to see a perp walk. We are going to see tons of people. It's going to be his storm. Amazing. Lydia's face shows that she agrees. That's why they won't let him win.
Starting point is 01:32:21 They won't by any means necessary. That's right. And that's what I'm saying. They're firing on all cylinders. They are firing everything they've got. They are whipping the emotions of the American public around their fingers. And I see it. And it saddens me a lot.
Starting point is 01:32:39 I'm speaking up. I'm being more vocal than I've ever been in my life. It's crazy, man. The fact they're going crazy man the fact they're going after bill barr is the is the really interesting thing to me yeah bill barr was one of the smartest moves trump has ever made oh yeah because he was the uh uh the attorney general in the 90s attorney general right yeah yeah in the 90s under i think what hw bush was it i think it was a little bit yeah yeah so basically you pull a guy out of retirement who's got a clean track
Starting point is 01:33:08 record serving the country, bring him back into the same thing and now they're trying to smear him again but it's not so easy. Right. Because it's like you mean to tell me he was corrupt in the 90s? It's like he's working for Trump now and he's defending Trump. It's like yeah maybe or maybe
Starting point is 01:33:23 you just want Trump to lose to know maybe there is a group of corrupt crony politicians who have been hiring their buddies and infecting our government with their bs yep to enrich themselves and are losing a lot of money to the the cancel the tpp with china because they have a lot of money invested there right but imagine this could you imagine how crazy it would be if like say, I don't know, somebody working in government had a foundation. Maybe a secretary of state had a foundation where they were taking donations from foreign
Starting point is 01:33:52 governments while they were running the administration? That could never happen, right? Right. Yeah. I know that reference. Yeah. Like, what? I'm not here to pretend Trump is perfect on anything.
Starting point is 01:34:08 I don't like most of the people who run for office. But Bill Barr seems like he's on the level. Yeah, since 89 with HW. Yep, simply does. And they didn't have any problems with him back then? Nope. Take a look at Kavanaugh. Kavanaugh was vetted when he became a federal judge.
Starting point is 01:34:22 All of a sudden, they surfaced 30-year-old allegations him and run him through over the coals calling him evil yeah like this this is a whole new level of ins you know insidious strange and weird it's that anger it's that elephant riding around that they are trying to control everybody with it it's sad was the what was the name of that guy who uh he was a he was a the banker plot you know the banker plot let me look it up yeah but look at the banker plot this my understanding was a conspiracy in like the early 1900s was it smedley butler was that his name um i've uh yeah i'm not sure smash smash the like button it's a film yeah it's a movie something happened okay maybe maybe i'm thinking of a movie but i'm pretty sure something happened where a bunch
Starting point is 01:35:06 of super wealthy individuals were trying to convince a high-ranking military official to overthrow the government and give them control of everything. Were you not able to find it? Well, it's very race-oriented. Race-oriented? Yeah, is that what it's about? No, the thing I'm thinking of is bankers who are like, we want financial control of the government, and they wanted this guy to overthrow it or something
Starting point is 01:35:25 maybe people are gonna you know comment in the chat with what it is you couldn't find it maybe I don't know Smedley Butler some people are saying oh you missed my head I'll do it later
Starting point is 01:35:40 hold on I'm distracted Smedley Butler I'm having fun with this smash Butler. Yeah. Let's see. I'm having fun with this smash button pillow. He was a Marine, people are saying. I love this. Yeah, he was a Marine. Most decorated Marine in U.S. history. During his 34-year career as a Marine, he participated in military actions in the Philippines,
Starting point is 01:35:55 China, and Central America and Caribbean. Did they mention anything about conspiracies or anything? I wonder where I read that. I'm not sure. It sounds interesting. The business plot, someone says. He claimed the existence of a political conspiracy by business leaders to overthrow President Roosevelt.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Okay, we figured it out. It wasn't the banker plot. It was the business plot. I read too much. It all runs together. And I'm like, sometimes I'm like, was that in a movie? Did I make this up? My brain has fractured.
Starting point is 01:36:20 I'm going to use that against you in the future. No, I'm kidding. I was correct. That's the point. I actually knew what I was talking about. It doesn't matter. You said it. What, am I going crazy?
Starting point is 01:36:29 Maybe a little bit. The business plot. You're just going crazy. The reason I bring that up is, you know, look, conspiracies happen. So for all that we know, you know, the Obamagate stuff, like think about, I know a lot of people firmly believe it is true, but i firmly believe we need hard evidence before i make any assertions true but entertain the possibility that donald trump for all of his character defects and boy howdy are there a lot is just a guy who wanted to be present to help
Starting point is 01:36:57 this country i think 100 and wanted to apply his knowledge to economics and foreign trade and there is a group of people who have infected our federal government at the highest levels, who've hired their buddies and are using their power to subvert the American people. The more I look into Trump, the more I see that to be 100% true. He wants people to survive. He wants people to do well. He appreciates people who do that work hard. Did I ever tell you the story about the dude I met who Trump gave him a free iPod? No.
Starting point is 01:37:27 So this dude I knew in Chicago said that when they built Trump Tower, he was going there for some reason, like a delivery or something. And as he was walking in, he knew that he could hear people behind him. So he didn't really pay attention. But he walked up to the door and opened it and then stepped aside to let them in. And then when he did, it was Trump and Trump's people. Yeah. And then they all walked past him.
Starting point is 01:37:47 And then he was like, whoa, hey, it's Trump. And then Trump's about 10 feet in front of him. He walks in, drops the door, and then Trump stops, turns around and goes, hey, kid, thanks, and throws an iPod. Nice. This was back when iPods were like a big deal. That's so cool. That's dope.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Yeah, it was like the new iPod. Like with Trump's music on it, too? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dope. And he was like, whoa. And there are stories. I got the Trump pod. It's actually gold. What? When Trump first got yeah. Dope. And he was like, whoa. And their stories. I got the Trump pod. It's actually gold.
Starting point is 01:38:06 I went, when Trump first got elected, I went to Trump Tower and he's got that restaurant and the ice cream shop. And I asked everybody what they thought about him. They love him. They all loved him. Some people would say like he would come down and just give him $100 bills. Just like come down and give him money. That's not surprising.
Starting point is 01:38:20 I asked, I think I asked somebody at the ice cream shop or the restaurant or whatever. And I was like, what do you think? And they're like, he comes down sometimes. He's really nice to everybody. And I'm like, I was like, what do you think? And they're like, he comes down sometimes. He's really nice to everybody. And I'm like, do you believe what they say about him? And they were like, no. But some people think Trump's playing it up for the media. Like, he's exaggerated his character and his politics to, like, generate controversy and buzz.
Starting point is 01:38:42 But the people who worked at the tower, they were like, he's great. I have heard. Do you know what I've heard? What have you heard? I've heard he paid off a bunch of people's medical bills and student loans and stuff, and he does it really quietly. He's super under the table, but he does it, and he never asks for anything for it. I firmly believe that
Starting point is 01:38:59 based on all of the negative press, that if you were to remove all of the negative press, actually if you were to remove all of the negative press, actually, let's go back in time to 2015. Trump was considered to be one of the best people in the country. Yep. Like, he was a good dude. He was a civil rights leader.
Starting point is 01:39:13 He was all these really great things. Yeah, he stood next to Rosa Parks and won an award with her. But as soon as he ran as a Republican, they do what they do best. Yep. They call everybody who runs as a Republican racist. That's true. White nationalist, all that evil stuff. To call him a racist means you know nothing about him that's it from what i've learned about him actually actually it's amazing the amount of stuff that he's done for the
Starting point is 01:39:33 minorities in in this country blows me away i am it's the more i research into him the more i i really like him a lot i'm but that's just simple truth. I actually heard one of the best explanations from this guy. I forgot his name. It was in New York when they were doing that Shia LaBeouf thing with that flag. I can't remember what that flag was called. Oh, he will not divide us. Yeah, he will not divide us. And there was a guy there, anti-Trump.
Starting point is 01:39:56 And I was talking to him and I asked him what he thought about Trump. And he was like, oh, you know, Trump, he's got problems. I don't think he's the worst guy in the world. but I think, you know, we definitely need somebody else. Yeah. And it was a black dude, by the way. So I asked him, I was like, would you think Trump is racist? And he goes, oh, yeah, but he's the least racist president we've ever had. And I was like, wait, wait, hold on. Wait, you think he's racist, but he's the least racist.
Starting point is 01:40:19 You think Obama is more racist? And he was like, yeah. And he basically told me that he was like, listen, man, you got to understand. We had presidents who were slave owners. Pretty sure that means they were racist, right? And I'm like, that's a good point. And he goes, Trump, he has his prejudices, man. Of course, I think he's racist.
Starting point is 01:40:33 But compared to all the rest of them, he's the least racist we've ever had. And I'm like, that's a really interesting way of putting it. And I think from a certain perspective, it's fair to say everybody has certain prejudices. Well, you know, you are attracted to people that look closer to your own. Like that's been proven. Physical attractiveness. That's kind of what I'm saying. We forget that we're animals. We are animals.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Babies do that. We're mammals. You know, and it's like even today, you know, know for example i was talking to a friend of mine a close friend of mine and i was like it happens to be an african-american and he was telling me i was like tell me tell me like talk to me about like what you you went through and uh grew up without being around uh white people in general and uh changed schools and finally saw his first white person and was afraid of them just a six year old you know first interaction felt fear because it was something different yeah it's
Starting point is 01:41:33 innate in us to it's it's it's something that you don't know you don't understand you know and that is the it's learned though that it's that it's a bad person that you know that in itself it's different you know We have to... That's why I think proximity is the cure for a lot of these biases and bigotry. That's why the segregationists terrify me. Exactly, I agree. Don Lemon was talking to Terry Crews, right?
Starting point is 01:41:56 And they were talking about how he was trying to drive home that it isn't like... Or Terry Crews was saying, it's not white on black, it's not white on black. It's not black on white. It's like everyone is in their own clusters, and that's where the crime happens to each other. And it's like, sure, but when we diversify, when we come together, you know, and find out we're all pretty much the same. We all want to be loved.
Starting point is 01:42:19 We all want to eat and be comfortable and live life happily. You know, man, the fact that there, I said this the other day, and I'll say it a million times, the fact that there's a white progressive calling a black conservative a white supremacist proves race has nothing to do with it. Exactly. It is ideology. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:42:38 Straight away. I mean, and when you see black people killing each other, you know, all like nonstop. Like we look at New York. What's happening? Chicago, Atlanta, like all these places it's happening. And yeah, there's people there. There's a very small group that are actually still speaking up for them, but is just being
Starting point is 01:42:58 lost. Well, it's because the political completely it's the mainstream politics doesn't care about it. They can't weaponize it yep exactly so you have this the cause of this crime has a lot to do with poverty and culture like uh so so gang culture for instance yeah gang culture isn't the biggest issue the biggest factor is my understanding having covered some of the stuff in chicago it's actually just general i don't know it's it's not gang culture it's some kind of like just they don't have a
Starting point is 01:43:28 respect for life and it's cultural it's nothing to do with race as exemplified by the people in my neighborhood they're trying to bring society down but society has given you this comfortable life well these far left activists are okay right in Chicago there's very little thought to like
Starting point is 01:43:43 if you mess with my friends in my neighborhood we go we dial to 11 yeah you know so in in my neighborhood it was like this this culture was bred across all different races you have the south side of chicago where there's a lot of poverty and there is a culture of violence and and anger and dialing the knob all the way up like i told I told you last week or two weeks ago that there was a fight outside of the high school in my neighborhood. And it was a glorious, diverse group
Starting point is 01:44:13 of people hating each other. It's great, right? And one guy drew a gun. They were boxing. One guy lost. He reached under a car where he hit a weapon. He pulled out a gun. Or no, no, he pulled out a two by four.
Starting point is 01:44:23 And then the other guy was like, oh, you want to bring a weapon, huh huh and then he walked over to his friend and grabbed a gun and then everyone started screaming and running and it was like that that mentality of like violence and taking things up to the extreme level of we were hitting each other and now i'm just gonna shoot you that's just part of like some weird culture that exists to quote one of my favorite movies evil begets evil. I think it's in the Bible. What do you get with like Karen culture?
Starting point is 01:44:50 With like high level, upper middle class Karens? I will sue you. No, I will sue you. No, I will sue you. And that's the extent to which they take things. Yeah. It's like litigation.
Starting point is 01:44:58 But it's a cultural phenomenon. And it's not, it's completely not racial as evidenced by the fact that you have wealthy, conservative black people arguing with you know like middle class white progressives about who's the real white supremacist right exactly like completely disproves the narrative of the left that there are like if they ever stopped and actually just like stepped back and watched a video of what they were doing maybe then they would realize race wasn't a factor in
Starting point is 01:45:22 it wouldn't that be wonderful if they actually stopped for a second and just took a look at what they're doing? And maybe read a history book, you know? Yeah, good luck on that one, huh? Yeah, right. Well, how about we read a— Spin the UFO. I was going to say read a Super Chats. I'm going to spin the UFO.
Starting point is 01:45:38 And how about you guys? Do it. Do it, Tim. Do it. Do it, Tim. Smash it, Tim. I need you guys to do this. Oh, man. I could just— Boop. Boop.. Do it. Do it, Tim. Smash it, Tim. I need you guys to do this. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Boop. Boop. Boop. Boop it? Yeah, just boop it. Bop it. I'm so disappointed right now. Bop that like button.
Starting point is 01:45:53 That's right. All right, we got a super chat here while Adam's spinning the UFO. LR Design Studios, Lori Sullivan Roy says, Admit it, Tim, you're voting Trump. MAGA baby. Keep up the great work, guys. Right. Kanye 2020. That's right. Dude. says admit it tim you're voting trump maga baby keep up the great work guys right kanye 2020 dude uh kanye man yeah we'll see what his platform's all about yeah but i'm pretty sure he's not running in 2020 right we don't know yet we don't know yet that's not that's not uh for
Starting point is 01:46:19 sure trump responded he was like it'll be a good trial run for 2024. I think he's truly going to run in 2024. So I'll say exactly what I said before. You know, I don't know. If the election was held today, I'd probably vote for Trump. Okay. But I'm not committed 100%. There's a lot that has to happen. And so it's really funny.
Starting point is 01:46:39 Someone, there was a big thread on my Instagram where they're like, Tim's lying. He would never actually vote for Trump. And I'm like, what? I don't get it. Like, why would I say that? They don't care. They don't know. They don't listen to everything you say.
Starting point is 01:46:50 They don't watch every video that you post. The argument is that I'm only pretending to want to vote for Trump to get the clicks from Trump supporters. Sure, I'm sure. And I'm like, what? I've not done a thing. No, no, no. That's okay. I got that.
Starting point is 01:47:01 I got that. You got that? I got that. What do you mean? No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, I already said it. I'm proudly voting. Right. So why would I have to? Yeah, I'm proudly. I am. I like the guy. It's like I think he's doing good things. My thing is like I fear more about Joe Biden transforming the country. The way I see it, here's how I explain it to people. I was like, you know, in this conversation about the far left, I said, do you have any idea what minority people and like regular Americans who are not politically initiated, who are minority or mixed, think when they wake up and see large sections of the white population organizing white identity based groups and calling for white collective action?
Starting point is 01:47:39 Like, do you think they sit there and think, let's discuss the nuances of their political opinions on why they should form a white racial group? Or do you think they're like, oh, what are they? What's going on? I thought we have civil rights law, like prevent discrimination from, you know, majorities oppressing minorities. Nope, it's the opposite. And they're actually repealing all those civil rights laws. Exactly. Where the majority, which is white, has started calling for white collective action and has advocated now through the Democratic Party to repeal their civil rights legislation. Hold on, wait.
Starting point is 01:48:11 Which they have done. I got a physical representation of how I feel about that. It's creepy. Yep. It's creepy. No smash. They really did it. We'll see if it actually gets passed.
Starting point is 01:48:22 But it's funny when I see people post on Twitter and they have a picture of it and they're like, this can't be real, can it? And I'm like, yes. It's real. They have repealed civil rights. They have voted to do it.
Starting point is 01:48:33 So it's happening. It'll be on the- No, they vote this November, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. California Democrats might actually strike out the language in their constitution that says the state cannot discriminate based on race. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Truly, truly amazing how far they've come, huh? All right, let's see what we got here in the old Super Chats. Theodore Abate says, what's your stance on multiculturalism? Personally, I don't think it works, and the evidence seems pretty self-evident at this point. Thanks for keeping it real. Depends on your definition. Well, they're trying to shove it down our throats that it doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:49:05 It does work. It does. It absolutely does work. Yeah. I lived in Chicago, as I've said, probably 17 trillion times at this point. Chicago has Chinatown. I would go to Chinatown and I would very much enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:49:17 And we would love to go down there. And we all got along just fine. Yep. The issue is, is there one umbrella culture for which all the other subcultures exist? If American culture, so this is where the definitions come into play. A lot of people, when they say multiculturalism, they refer to American culture and then like, say, Chinese culture side by side. Okay. Clearly doesn't work because you can't have different sets of rules
Starting point is 01:49:42 and laws based on your culture. Now, if people move from, say, China and they create a Chinatown where they do a lot of things that are culturally Chinese, but it's all under the one parent umbrella of American constitutional republicanism or liberal democracy, whatever definition you want to use, we're fine. Then you can go down and say, I may not understand why it is you want to use, we're fine. Then you can go down and say, I may not understand why it is you prefer to eat these foods, but I can come and we can enjoy because we all abide by the same rules and the same laws. The problem arises when you have no parent overarching culture, and then you get side-by-side parallel cultures with different sets of rules and laws you end up with morality
Starting point is 01:50:27 police and we're starting to see that that doesn't work that's true that doesn't work i wonder if like these people believe that intersectionalism will be the global unifying force or something but that sounds horrible yeah like i i would love to live in a star trek future who doesn't but in the star trek future i'll take one coffee, please. Thank you. You know what the famous quote is from the... What was Star Trek? The 60s?
Starting point is 01:50:50 Started, yeah, maybe. Abraham Lincoln was, like, on the ship for some reason. I can't remember exactly why. And he uses a racial term, a derogatory racial... A relatively derogatory racial term for the time for Captain... I'm sorry, not Captain. Uhura. Yeah, Uhura. She was the fourth in command i think and then he he corrects himself and says oh i'm sorry i didn't
Starting point is 01:51:10 realize was that offensive and she goes why would i be offended and then kirk is like i think it's kirk he says something like by this time in human civilization we we don't let word oh no ohura says this we don't let words offend us nice and everybody was like when this people started resurfacing this this this clip and they were like if only they understood how wrong they were because like it's gotten so worse but that's star trek future in star trek lore though it got a lot worse before they created in san francisco that's true so maybe we're on track no maybe maybe it'll be great all right let's see what else do we got here over in the old super jets exile devil says the worst wmd that humanity created is the internet
Starting point is 01:51:50 and social media it has destroyed countless lives it's unregulated and in the hands of billions like many wmds it was supposed to help us not destroy us we are not ready for the responsibility it is no joke when people say we have condensed 10 years of history in six months. That's true. There's something I've been thinking about this a lot, actually, because we've been discussing that we weren't ready for social media. And I think there's there's if you look at like the technological advance of the past hundred years. Right. And how fast it's advancing the further we go. So it's almost exponential. It seems like it might be slowing down now, but it's because it's not
Starting point is 01:52:31 so much of a physical realm. Now it's because the internet came along and we're seeing, you know, this new phase in humanity, essentially. And I feel like we're seeing the effects of it now. This is truly the effects of the internet. So people are seeing it. So it's almost like we are all going through this awakening right now, this moment that we're in. We're seeing the effects of it. It's polarizing and focusing everybody to really analyze practically every aspect of humanity i think i mean at least personally the the internet created a hard fork in american culture so
Starting point is 01:53:16 to multiple when you had a flat internet you had all these different communities and they started bubbling up and growing and then at some point they fork off from each other in disagreement about what should or shouldn't be and that leads us to the culture war and now you've got two it's like yeah it's it's it's a hard fork in the cultural programming of our country yeah and i don't know if it can be remedied because that's it's a fork they're just completely different lines of code at this point yeah so the civil war that we keep talking about that we got to get rid of one of the forks man we need we have to delete we need o'hara's uh voice right now who o'hara the star trek talking about how we don't let words affect us i'm not offended by that because i don't get offended by words these these two forks can't coexist absolutely you're right so and i'm not talking about people i'm talking about cultural ideology one of them has to be stamped out they they're tearing down statues
Starting point is 01:54:10 they're lying about it yeah trump is is trump is arguing you know in my opinion the way i see it is the left is the deviation you have american history you can follow everything back in time, all the way back to, you know, John Locke, liberalism, the ideas that led to the revolution, back through colonialism, back through, you know, every migration of all the different patterns. And then today, or 10 years ago, a fork split off that disagrees with all of that history and doesn't recognize it. Yeah. So that's the deviation.
Starting point is 01:54:44 Okay. Those of us that say we recognize the fault of this country and respect it for what it is and how it became great and continues to strive are respecting the parent. It's like, you know, trusting in America and believing in this country and respecting our history is the real code. Then you have the far left,
Starting point is 01:55:02 which is a deviant forking off the code to create something else that would literally destroy everything from being you know before the year 2000 or something like that year zero as it were yeah it's insane but i think what's causing this this rapid development of of uh history in such a short time is the speed at which we communicate yep so man it's crazy you know the revolution took place over 18 years i think think it was 18 years. It wasn't just the war. It was the process by which the conversation started, the Continental Congress, the drafting of the Declaration of Independence. And it was like they drafted a declaration and then they're done. And then what, like years go by before any real conflict starts? The declaration had to make it to Englandland and then make it back that probably took a year right so my thought on that is well that yeah you think it took a long time for it to happen and then it took a long time to to integrate into the system right so now we're at this stage where it's like that instead so it's gonna happen like that and it's gonna end like
Starting point is 01:55:59 that do you know what i mean will it end like that that? I think so. I think so, yeah. I don't, maybe, but the reason it starts with a bang is because instead of, you know, like taking the Declaration of Independence, giving it to somebody, being like, get this on the first ship to England, and then three months, you know, the king will review it, and then three months after that, we'll have a bunch of regulars, well, probably more than three months after that, you know, seven months, because they i got to get the troops and put them on the boats and then send them out here yeah so you're looking at almost a year after you sign it and send it out whereas today you'd be like oh let me send it let me let me tweet yo we are independent do something right and then within that moment he
Starting point is 01:56:37 goes send out our soldiers the war still happens yeah but and it takes time it's still gonna end as fast as it begins i don't think it'll end as fast i think it goes straight up and then goes down really fast because there's still the hot conflict so it's a double it's double a couple couple poetry snaps like the thing about the revolution the civil war and these other bits of history that took a long time was that people had to move around and communication took forever with the start of the war it's instant oh you're doing this where i mean actually it's not i'm willing to bet that whatever this period is what the history historians would argue it started with you know just before
Starting point is 01:57:16 occupy wall street they would say you know in august 2011 a bunch of you know socialist activists got together and planned the occupyupy Wall Street movement. This was the beginning emergence of mainstream intersectionalism, where they actually had governing bodies based on your privilege and stuff like that. And then it became more and more prevalent from colleges
Starting point is 01:57:38 to media companies, to the mainstream enterprise, and then by 2020, it was widespread violence. So if we look back in history history they'll say it took 20 years they will that's a good point yeah maybe and maybe we're just kind of exaggerating it alright we got this super chat from Big Mac Attack he says
Starting point is 01:57:53 good evening Baron Von Beanie, Sorbarian Jesus and Lady Lydia of Whiterun did you guys know a metal band actually did an album inspired by the anime Berserk the album was called Beast in Black I highly recommend it cheers Cheers. Appreciate it. I appreciate that. I got a large one here
Starting point is 01:58:10 from Chronoflation. It says, man, listening to you two debate makes me excited to see Adam with Stefan Malinu. If you guys can get him on, I'd love to see it. I'm trying to imagine what will happen when the champion of anti-racism meets the statistical race realistic philosopher.
Starting point is 01:58:27 Okay. That would be an interesting debate. We are working on. Oh, is that me? Am I the champion? No. Oh, is that him? I don't know anything about him.
Starting point is 01:58:35 Yeah, he's the stats and philosophy. He's the guy who just got banned from YouTube because you're not allowed to talk about it. Right, no. So they're calling me the champion of anti-racism. Oh, yeah. That's right. All right. That's you.
Starting point is 01:58:43 I didn't know. We are working on a bigism. Oh, yeah. That's right. All right. That's you. I didn't know. We are working on a big expansion. Oh, yeah. It is not particularly easy, but we are planning by probably September to have everything in order. And then we're going to be able to bring on bigger guests. We're going to have a redesigned set. We're going to have bigger space.
Starting point is 01:58:57 We're going to have an indoor shooting range, skate park, and a bunch of other crazy stuff. Indoor skate park, indoor shooting range. And a vlog, and probably more channels, and gaming, and just weird shenanigans. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be fun. It's going to be awesome. Oh, I shoot range. And a vlog and probably more channels and gaming and just weird shenanigans. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be fun. It's going to be awesome. Oh, I'm excited. I'm stoked.
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Starting point is 01:59:30 Look at that. And that's L-Y-D-S. Yes. Alright, let's see what we got here in the Super Chats. Angry Bellsprout says, Tim endorses Lincoln's plans to, uh, I'm not gonna, wait, wait, wait, what? Hmm. I'm not reading that. Oh. Vincent Grasso says, Grunt here, as a new gun owner, I just want to toss a suggestion to
Starting point is 01:59:48 look up and do dry fire drills in your home. It helps build the muscle memory in the absence of range time and the ammo shortages. And they actually sell those caps. Oh, yeah. So you can dry fire without actually firing the weapon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:02 We saw them in the shop. The gun shop's got them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We saw them in the gun shops. Got them. Yeah. So if you want to do training and the no matter what, anybody listening, I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on guns, but a gun is always loaded. Period. Rule number one. The killer stove says I voted for Gary Johnson as a protest about in 2016 to show I was willing to engage in the system, but was disenfranchised in the far left eyes.
Starting point is 02:00:24 That was high treason. The far left's hate for moderates is insane. Trump 2020. It is insane. I hear you, man. It's crazy, man. They get the crazy eyes. That's what we're talking about.
Starting point is 02:00:34 Right straight to 11. Exactly. They're just like, their hair, they're just screeching banshees. I know. There's no calming them down. Like, you want to just, come here, give me a hug. No. They just like, they like knife you in the back.
Starting point is 02:00:45 Yeah, I don't deal with that well. Jeff Schlumbrecht says, I'm an Oath Keeper 3%-er. 3%-er refers to it only took 3% of the population to rise up and defeat the British in the Revolutionary War. Yeah. I'm also, I am also ADV China's media person, if you would still like to do an interview with Matt. Who's Matt? I don't know. I don't know what that is but uh they can reach out they can tweet at you or you or is that getting overwhelming yeah no i mean yeah whatever i i do always have a tweet at the top of my page every
Starting point is 02:01:17 every sunday night or monday morning i i do a uh this is a subject thread. Hit me up with ideas. People still hit me up. Feel free. Stangly says, Hey Tim, I just want to ask you, what do you think the future holds with escalations in China and unprecedented political unrest in America and across the world? Also, I just want to say mad respect to you guys. Keep it up. They might ban TikTok.
Starting point is 02:01:41 I would love it if they banned TikTok. Why? Because it's annoying? No, yeah they're spying on american citizens manipulating young people period i mean no we we can't we can't stop like young people from using the internet but if they're spying on us and and they control what is being viral like i mean it is a chinese company who's to say they're not going, oh, this is a perfect one. Make this one viral over something else on TikTok. I don't know if they can or not, or they can't, but I do know that we've proved that they take your clipboard information and they know what's on there. One of the reasons they claim to have targeted Michael Flynn
Starting point is 02:02:20 was that he said he thought China was a bigger threat than Russia. Yep. What a surprise. They were like, that proves he's trying to shield Russia. And it's like, no, it shows he's going after China. And that got you mad. Yeah. Yeah. China.
Starting point is 02:02:33 I wonder how much they mentioned Russian interference. I wonder how much of that is actually Chinese interference, manipulating our social media to make people go crazy. That's a good point. How about, I know it's a joke, but we got a couple million, we got several million people in Hong Kong need a good place to go. And they love us, man.
Starting point is 02:02:50 I know, they're waving American flags. Yeah, July 4th. There was more people around the world that want to be here than the people that are arguing how bad America is. And it's just like... And there are people defending China. Get out of here.
Starting point is 02:03:04 We're here. I know, it's like, you want to go to China, go live defending China. Get out of here. We're here. I know. It's like, you want to go to China, go live in China. I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what. We'll happily replace you
Starting point is 02:03:09 with these other people that want to be patriots and want to live in this amazing country. If you are pro-CCP, okay, and you love what China does, I would absolutely,
Starting point is 02:03:19 personally, myself, pay for you to move there and pay for that resident of Hong Kong to come back and take your place. Yes. So, like, you guys can switch. And I mean that with the utmost respect. If you really do think China does a good job and there are people in America who do, then I will help you go there and live happily.
Starting point is 02:03:37 And if there's someone in Hong Kong who wants to be in America, I would pay to bring them here. I think that's an amicable solution to make everybody happy. This spin is for all those people in Hong Kong that wish they were here. I wish you were here, too. Check this out. Kayleen Mims says, When you talk about Trump making the Garden of Heroes on the 4th of July, it gave me hope. I didn't like him at first.
Starting point is 02:03:58 Now I'm leaning towards him 2020. Me, a young black man. I got to tell you, man. When Trump announced the garden of heroes my net trump favorability went up a lot me too that's great i mean it was already fairly it was doing well my position has typically been trump is bad but he's not that bad yeah now my position is like trump's all right the garden of heroes things legit i really really really like that me too for two reasons i love uh i love the idea of statues honoring heroes
Starting point is 02:04:26 yep and you know what you know one of my favorite statues ever is the statue of hachiko the dog cool you know the story yeah great story hachiko was a loyal dog who would wait by the train every day for his his best friend yeah to use the proper terminology one day the japanese professor who owned hachiko died while at the university and he never came back. And Hachiko waited there for nearly 10 years every day. No matter how many times they tried to remove him, he was like, no, I am waiting for my friend.
Starting point is 02:04:54 And he died. They built a statue in his honor at the train station. I love that story. There's also a funnier story of a fat cat, this was viral on Reddit, that would lean on the stairs, like the guy from the Dos Equis commercial. And then when the cat died, they built a statue in his honor
Starting point is 02:05:07 so that you walk by, there's a little fat cat leaning on the stairs. I see a fat cat over there. Yeah, we got a little fat kitty. But I really do like the idea of getting to see a representation of the giants for whom have lent their shoulders to you to stand on.
Starting point is 02:05:25 The problem with that is if people don't know their history, it's meaningless. And that's a big issue. You put a plaque at the bottom of the statue to say, here's who this person was. Well, they have to read the plaque. There's a couple of things about the Garden of Heroes. For one, he made a great list of great American heroes, and I hope they offer up a way to vote for more individuals to be placed there. I'm sure.
Starting point is 02:05:46 Yeah. Why wouldn't it be that way? I just imagine like 100 years from now, people are going to like walk in there and be like, wow. And they're going to look at all these statues, all these different people, and they're going to learn about why we hold them in such high esteem. Yeah. But the other thing is with this move to build the Garden of Heroes, Trump did – it was the biggest smackdown of the far left. I just want you to imagine like a boxing, an MMA ring and the far left is like, you know, doing little like quick jabs at Trump and then Trump jumps 50 feet in the air and then just like aims down a burst of flames and then
Starting point is 02:06:19 just boom right in the face and they explode. Boom on the like button. Yes. That smackdown on the far left was so explosive, I was imagining some Antifa guy getting punched by Trump in his face. He explodes in a splatter of blood. Now, I'm exaggerating, but what I mean is he didn't just say, I will stop you from tearing down statues. He said, I'm going to build 50 more. Yep. You want to tear a statue down?
Starting point is 02:06:41 I'm going to build more statues. And I'm like, oh. I heard you like statues. I heard you like statues. Yep. Yes. i love that first and foremost i really like the idea of a national park memorializing heroes notably harriet tubman yeah totally i think right and he did he did say frederick douglas yeah antonin scalia go for it i'm i'm you know i i think there's american heroes that we there are people that we might disagree with. But if you want to put Ruth Bader Ginsburg in there as well,
Starting point is 02:07:08 when her time, I'm not trying to be morbid, but she's getting on. She's trucking though, man. It's crazy. I have tremendous respect for her, her career, the things she's accomplished, and clearly she's strong. You cannot deny that. That woman is one of the strongest human beings I've ever heard of. Like the Energizer Bunny.
Starting point is 02:07:23 For real, man. I'm impressed. It's because she never retired. That's the key to living long. But she has gone through how many bouts of cancer and illnesses, and she will not let go. I am impressed. I am absolutely impressed. I've heard, I actually got wind that she actually watches our show
Starting point is 02:07:40 and smashes the like button. Oh, really? Oh, yeah? This is true. This is a true fact oh yeah i think this was one of the the most clever ways to rebut what the far left has been doing yeah because it's a way to reaffirm our history in the face of those who want to destroy it you're not getting a federal net you know a national park with all of these heroes you may have torn down a dozen or so of these statues.
Starting point is 02:08:06 Trump's going to build, you know, two, three dozen more. Bigger. Better. Yeah. And you can't get in there. The best. You're not going to go in there. So the states might not agree.
Starting point is 02:08:15 But Trump is saying straight up, our history will not be destroyed. I will reinforce it. And I'm like, here, here, man. Here, here. I have tremendous respect for that. Same here. Have Tome says, the Adam Curtis. Hear, hear. Tremendous respect for that. Same here. Have Tome says, The Adam Curtis doc hyper-normalization.
Starting point is 02:08:27 It wades through the culmination of forces that have driven this culture into mass uncertainty, confusion, spectacle, and simulation. It does, but it starts to trail off. And I got, like, at a certain point, I was like, hmm, you know, I lost it. I fell asleep and just, you know. Let's see. What do we got? Michael Stevens says, you know let's see what do we got uh michael steven says have you have you all ever read the rough draft of the declaration of independence where they originally tried to end slavery but two
Starting point is 02:08:50 colonies wouldn't agree to it i read about it yeah i read about that they they also they wanted to abolish it outright yep but they would not have been able to defeat the british if they didn't have the support of their colonies that's right man i'm not happy about that it would have been because i'm i'm stubborn i would have been like then you guys can leave yeah you know and then we'll do i mean but they needed the military support i mean they might not have won and then we might have been a military i mean who knows where we'd be right now you know but this is the this is the thing we are here we are here right now this is where we are we're not back then and that's where everyone i can't stand this canceling people from the far past where it's like like the whole marx thing
Starting point is 02:09:31 you know like people are defending him they're like oh yeah he was racist but you know he he never brought around true communism like he wanted to and it's like i don't care what your argument is you're literally saying what we're saying about all the different people that you're trying to demolish. You're trying to rip down these statues. You weren't there. There's no real ideology. We're here. Here is where we are. We need to move forward. That's the only option. It's the only option in life. Rules for the, but not for me. They will say we must tear down these old racists. What about that statue of Lenin? Whoa, whoa, whoa. They will say, we must tear down these old racists. What about that statue of, you know, Lennon?
Starting point is 02:10:06 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, well, you know. It was accepted. That one's on private property. It was accepted at the time. Ironically, yeah. They said the statue of Lennon is on private property. That's actually what they said. Wow.
Starting point is 02:10:15 I'm not saying, like, they literally all said it, but of course they're not going to tear down the Lennon statue in Seattle. I'll tell you what, man. The first time I went to Seattle and I saw the Lennon statue, I was very confused. Like, why? I was like, I think I was 20. And I'm looking at it and I'm like, Lennon? Is that who I think it is? I'm like, isn't this a guy that we hate?
Starting point is 02:10:32 Yeah. Why is there a statue of him? Right. And why is he still standing now? Why is it there? Yeah. Well, duh. I don't get it.
Starting point is 02:10:38 They just want to destroy America. They hate America. That's the sad reality. Yeah, maybe. The other sad reality is that it's 10-10 and it's time to go to bed. Oh, man, it is. Ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't already, you must, Adam, smash that like button.
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