Timcast IRL - TimcastIRL #89 - Driver Who Hit BLM Leftist On Highway Charged With Vehicular Homicide
Episode Date: July 9, 2020The case of the Seattle driver who ran into two protesters on a highway during a protest raises Tim and Adam's ire, with a heavy emphasis on avoiding the morality police and the big cities as a way to... save sanity and preserve constitutional rights. Then the conversation turns to who would be best suited to actually bringing law and order to the world, and Tim and Adam go back and forth over whether or not the battle has already been lost. An ideal social media network is one that is decentralized, like Locals, Gab, the .win network, or Mastodon. Finally, a word or two on Don Lemon 2020, in sharp opposition to Don Lemon 2013. Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We have important news.
There is important news.
New Jersey has announced it is now mandatory to wear a mask in all outdoor public spaces.
I don't know necessarily what that means, but it's a mandatory mask.
We are leaving New Jersey.
Oh, yeah.
We are a family-friendly show.
So let me just say F New Jersey.
Indeed.
You know, look, I should have learned my lesson from all of the shows that have made fun of New Jersey for being just awful.
But this place is the worst.
You know, it's funny.
I've straight up, I've been making fun of New Jersey for like 25 years.
Yeah, man.
Seriously, 25 years.
Because I went to high school outside of Philadelphia.
And, man, everyone hated Jersey drivers.
Jersey drivers, that term I've heard for
so long. And then I moved to New York.
And guess what I heard? Jersey drivers.
Oh, they're the worst.
So here's the news.
In honor of this
mandatory mask law, I have purchased a
special mask that I
will have to wear
whenever I go outside, apparently. Look,
if you go outside onto a street, that's public space, right?
Yeah.
So this is the mask that I have purchased.
It's a sports memorabilia mask for one of our longstanding football teams.
Yep.
The Washington Redskins.
Wait, does that mean we have to wear a mask when we go skate outside in the backyard?
In the backyard.
That's private.
Oh, okay.
Good.
That'd be ridiculous
but if you want to like ride your board down your street yeah down the street so yeah i got i
actually got a redskins mask just because in all seriousness if they change the name it would be
cool to have you know before because also i think the chiefs the indians is a bunch of teams that
are like for some reason named after native americans and they're going to change them all
so i thought it'd be cool but uh but it also would be very funny if they changed the name
because it's offensive, and then I'm wearing it.
There you go, New Jersey.
And I'll be like, hey, hey, hey, look.
Hey, hey, yo.
Bye, Jersey.
Football team.
No one will care, though.
It's stupid.
There was this funny thing where this guy made a shirt
that said Caucasians, and it was the same logo,
but like a white face profile.
And I'm like, but that's not a slur.
No one cares.
Like, I really thought there was a white guy who saw that
and went, hmm, got all angry. He's probably just like, oh, that's a funny shirt. I get it but that's not a slur no one cares yeah like I really thought there's a white guy who saw that one got all angry it's like probably
just like oh that's funny sure it I get it it's a joke I mean I get it's funny
joke I mean do we know for a fact that can I even say the name are we I feel
like you're avoiding saying the name what name I said Redskins yeah well I
want to know who's actually upset.
Nobody.
Who's actually upset about Aunt Jemima?
Like, who's really upset?
Nobody's mad about Aunt Jemima.
Nobody is. No, no, no.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Actually, the family.
Yeah, I was going to say the family is.
The family of Aunt Jemima is mad they got their name pulled off.
Ridiculous.
Yeah.
Totally backwards.
Oh, man.
So, apparently, that dude who ran over, not ran over, but ran into the Black Lives Matter
activists. It's a terrible story. It's a terrible story. Vehicular homicide charge.
Dawit Kalete. They have destroyed this man's life. I agree.
You know, you gotta love it, man. Lady Antebellum
changed their name to Lady A. Should we talk about this?
Lady A? No, I guess you're bringing it up. Go ahead. Yeah, yeah, no, look.
Lady A is an actual singer, I guess you're bringing it up. Go ahead. Yeah, yeah, no. Look, Lady A is an actual singer, I guess, from Seattle, a black woman.
Lady Antebellum changes their name for Black Lives Matter.
Hold on.
I want to read exactly.
Well, we're going to get into it later.
Oh, we're going to talk about it later?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm just doing a general intro.
I'll wait until later then.
What we have here is a group of white individuals in a band trying to take the name from a black singer
and suing her to steal the name.
You have a bunch of white progressives
dancing in the highway.
Not exaggerating.
They were doing, what was it called?
Like the candy cane shuffle or something?
I don't know what it's called.
The Cupid shuffle?
Yeah, I think that's what it's called.
On the highway.
At night.
And this guy, it's at night.
They're wearing all black.
Yep.
Around a bend.
Yep.
With vehicles obstructing your view.
Checks out.
And a guy is driving, and he tries to swerve out of the way, hits him.
And now this guy is going to go to prison for a long time.
So these are the stories that we have.
We have a bunch of other stuff, too.
We're going to talk about this cancel culture stuff.
We're almost going to lead with it.
The co-founder of Vox has
been cancelled. That's it.
He's not allowed to talk anymore, I guess. You don't like Vox
anyway, right? Vox is okay.
It's okay. But they're
the snooty
elitist of
this, you know, of the far left.
Okay. So they're the ones who
instead of screaming in your face,
they'll walk up to you and gobellum is is in in well within their rights to take the name from
this woman it's not racist when we do it that's what vox is like yeah legally legally i've read
i've read all about it well i'll talk about it later i guess when we actually talk about it it's
it's a crazy story i can't i i can't believe it i was
gonna i want to pretend like i'm gonna be shocked oh you mean to tell me that privileged leftists
are putting putting sending a black man to prison because they wanted to dance on the highway uh-huh
and then you've got this this this uh i think she's a blues singer it's now being sued by this
band is she not african-american she is oh yeah that is. That's the point. It's these white progressives who are like,
actually, we're not the racists.
You're the racists. Now let's go ruin
the lives of these people.
They're disgusting, man. I can't stand these people.
Yeah, when I read it, I laughed
at first because it was so
bizarre and out there
that because they changed their name
because of inclusivity
and Black Lives Matter. And then I read this today that they're now
suing her. I just I laughed and then it dawned on me that it
wasn't satire. It wasn't a satire article. Oh wait this is serious.
We also got a flashback Wednesdays. It's Wednesday right?
Yeah it's Wednesday. Don Lemon 2013
said Bill O'Reilly doesn't go far enough in criticizing the black community.
And then he goes on to say a whole bunch of things that if we said today, that if anybody said today, would be insta-banned from every platform.
Don Lemon went off the rails.
Like, man, I can't believe he even said this back then.
2013, that wasn't that long ago.
Yeah.
It seems like a long time ago.
Bill O'Reilly said people make personal choices that result in their detriment and poverty.
And then Don Lemon's all like, yeah, he's right.
But he doesn't go far enough.
And then he specifically starts pointing out all of these things.
Just wow, man.
Wow.
So that's the point, man.
I want to call this out.
We talk about it a lot, but these people, man.
Hypocrisy.
Hypocrisy.
Man, I'm sick of it.
Entitlement.
I'm sick of it.
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But let's do this.
Let's jump over to this story, man.
The New York Times reports driver charged with vehicular homicide
in death of Seattle protester. The driver, DeWitt Colette, 27, struck two protesters with his car early Saturday,
one of whom later died, prosecutor said. Now, before we read this, they point out these women
are non-binary. These they? The women? These they are non-binary? These they. These thems? I don't
know what the right word is. What do I call them? non-binaries non-binaries i honestly non-binaries this this new thing about uh i mean
i'm trying to be lit babies have you heard this babies babies i know lydia's like oh i i just got
a lot to say no this is a new thing yeah babies they call them babies because they're not giving
them a gender yeah they're children okay well i'm i'm i'll hold i'm we're trying to talk about news right okay now wait let me just to be respectful and follow the rules of youtube
okay they're not women okay they're so i don't know what to say um theyman theyman that sounds
terrible they theyman theyman works no it's got it's got the word men in it and that's uh that's
fine that's triggering we're're going to call them.
Point of privilege.
Point of privilege.
That triggers me.
Theymen.
Theymen.
They're not men.
It's spelled with an I.
M-I-N.
No, no, no.
I think that actually works.
I mean that in all sincerity.
Theymen.
Yeah.
They and man, as in humans, like man, woman, and theymen.
What else?
Is there a word?
Non-binaries?man okay so so theymen are non-binary these theymen are non-binary so let's see if new york times gets
it right when they talk about it let's read the news here i'm holding my breath a seattle man
how do they know that oh did he tell them are they assuming his gender they sure are i mean
that literally though look at the beginning of the next paragraph, too. The man.
That's so weird that they do that.
Straight up.
That's weird that they do that, though.
I mean, at least they're not throwing a race word in there, too.
Well, why don't they just say DeWitt Colette?
Let's read it.
A Seattle man who authorities said drove into a protest on a closed section of Interstate 5 over the weekend,
killing one demonstrator, was charged on Wednesday with vehicular homicide, vehicular assault, and reckless driving.
The man, DeWitt Colette,
27, is being held with bail set at
$1.2 million.
Why? It was an accident.
Yeah, clearly.
Welcome to the morality policing world, man.
Get out of the cities. Get away from these people.
I'll tell you what. They will break into your house.
You will defend yourself, and you will go to prison.
They will dance on the highway. Think about how insane that you will go to prison. So it seems they will dance on the highway.
Think about how insane that is.
I don't care if it's closed or not.
This dude clearly wasn't intending to hit them.
Now he gets a $1.2 million bail.
He gets to go to prison.
Two of the charges, vehicular homicide and vehicular assault, are felonies.
A spokesman for the prosecuting attorney's office said they have destroyed this man's life.
Now I get it.
He was driving.
He had two people.
One of them died.
They say straight up, it's not murder.
It's a manslaughter charge, meaning it was it was an accident.
He wasn't supposed to be on the highway.
They don't clarify how he got on the highway, but it was not intentional killing.
His life is now over because he is stupid.
And that's about it.
And they wanted to dance on the highway.
The Washington State Patrol and FBI were still investigating the matter.
And Mr. Colette could face additional charges, according to a statement from the prosecutor's
office. The authorities said that Mr. Colette was driving a white Jaguar XJL when he drove
into the protesters at a high rate of speed early on Saturday morning, striking two protesters.
You see, they just keep saying protesters instead of them or she.
That's safer.
One of them, Summer Taylor of Seattle, died later that day at the hospital. Another protester, Diaz Love of Portland, Oregon, was hospitalized in serious condition.
A sobriety test indicated that Mr. Colette was not under the influence at the time,
according to a police report. Diaz Love, who, like Summer Taylor, uses non-binary pronouns,
shared a hospital selfie on Facebook this week with a message saying that they were alive and stable.
No, they, wait, wait, wait.
No, they weren't.
One of them died.
They, meaning the one person.
She's talking about two, the paragraph talks about two people.
Yes.
They would have to say they is.
That is correct.
They is alive and stable.
I'm not exaggerating.
No, no.
Grammar.
Grammar is being thrown into a blender and shredded because of this.
If you're going to be talking about two people, then they must follow a singular.
So it should say they is alive and stable.
That's a good point.
That's true.
Because it says Diaz Love, like Summer Taylor, shared a hospital selfie.
I cannot believe Summer was murdered.
Murdered?
They wrote.
If they thought this murder would make us back down, they are very wrong.
Who's they?
Now who's they?
I can't.
This is ridiculous, man.
Oh my gosh.
Language is supposed to help us understand what's happening.
And I kid you not, when I read this, I was like, wait, they're alive?
No, but she was murdered.
What is she talking about?
Oh, they.
What is they talking about?
And it wasn't murder. It wasn't murder. wasn't yeah first of all it wasn't murder they're the i don't know she
believes that i'm sorry they look man i'll tell you what they they men i'm not i'm not saying
this in any way to be disrespectful or funny what i can't understand when i when i'm reading
and they say oh you know what they're talking about. If the New York Times writes a paragraph
with multiple people in it
and then says they are alive,
why would I assume a singular at all?
So they need to use,
they can't use the pronoun here.
It would have to say,
to be completely fair,
that Diaz Love
shared a hospital selfie
with a message saying
that Diaz was alive.
It would have to use her name.
Yeah, you have to use a specific name.
Correct.
Yeah, and then...
It's messed up.
Summer.
Wait.
Diaz calls it murder.
And you can tell that's the emotional side that will never relinquish.
Because my friend was murdered.
My fellow protester was murdered by this person.
And it's like...
Vaman.
I read into the police report
and he constantly was asking if they were okay.
He felt terrible.
It's like, there's no way that they got murdered.
That is a ridiculous claim.
He felt terrible.
He has a strong family.
Like, they're all immigrated here, legally working.
It's like, it's sad.
I'm so ready to just shut everything down and just take the van down to the river, man.
I'll take over.
Think about how stupid this is.
That the New York Times wrote a nonsensical paragraph to placate this person for this story.
Well, they prefer they pronouns, so now we're going to break the paragraph.
And I'm supposed to understand and just know?
I tell you this, if a regular person was reading this, they would assume they were both alive.
Yeah.
That's true.
It mentions two people and says they were alive.
And then the very next sentence is, I can't believe they were murdered.
Summer was murdered. It's like, wait, what? Well, well technically it's they because they're both days right so yeah they were murdered yeah here they say uh the episode was followed dozens of similar incidents involving
cars striking demonstrators yeah yeah yeah we know all about it it was not clear which incidents
were premeditated and which were prompted by rage as drivers found their routes blocked by protesters.
I'll go ahead and say very few of them.
There's a story out of New York City.
It was on 42nd.
It was, I think, near Bryant Park.
And an SUV was trying to drive down the street.
Yeah, I saw that.
The protesters run up and block it.
The car stops.
They start yelling, you got to go another way.
And the guy's just sitting there.
The SUV's not moving.
Well, he couldn't.
They were surrounding the vehicle. They were jumping on his hood. Right. And the guy's just sitting there. The SUV is not moving. Well, he couldn't. They were surrounding.
They were jumping on his hood.
Right.
And then somebody says, pop his effing tires.
Well, actually, before they even say that, you can hear someone took the thing off.
Yeah, they're hissing.
They're draining his tires.
The hissing of the air popping out or coming out.
And then people start hitting the car.
And so he speeds up and they start screaming, get out of the way, get out of the way.
And then he takes off and he drags a bike.
And then the story was SUV plows through protesters.
It's crazy.
Dude, I'm not in a good mood about any of this stuff.
The media has no credibility.
Nope.
None of these people actually watched any of the videos.
Correct.
They didn't bother to.
They didn't do their job.
These people don't do their job anymore.
Could you imagine if I had a plumber and he showed up to your house and just went in the living room and, like, played video games?
You'd be like, bro, I'm not hiring you to do this. You'd be like, well, I'm on the clock.
Too bad. But with journalists,
people just assume they must be correct.
The journalists have realized this.
Well, they're not journalists. They're not journalists anymore.
They're actors. I'm talking about NY1.
I know. They're actors. That's what it is.
They're just TV actors.
Exactly. And then they just get a robot
to write up a generic fake article.
Yep. No one has any idea what happens.
And then everyone else rewrites the same trash.
Mr. Coletti's lawyer, John Henry Brown, told the AP that he was remorseful over the incident.
And there's absolutely nothing political about this case whatsoever.
Mr. Coletti lives with his parents in Seattle.
So what do they got to put up?
They got to put up 10% for him to get out of jail?
This guy, he works for DoorDash.
And now he's going to go to prison because he was just dumb.
Look, I think these laws are so stupid.
So stupid.
I'm totally down with prison reform.
How does it make sense that someone who did not intend to kill someone is facing a $1.2 million bond?
I don't know.
That's not fair.
Right.
The criminal intent.
You know what, man?. Right. The criminal intent. Why?
It's, you know, man.
No, they're using this.
They're using this as fuel to burn,
to get more angry, emotional outbreaks
from the people that they think are winning this civil war,
this mental civil war that we keep talking about.
That's what it is.
It was an accident.
They're placing their bets.
This guy should have been let go right away.
The guy in New York.
Agreed.
The guy in New York got taken into custody.
And released.
No charges.
Yep, exactly.
I mean, he didn't kill anybody, granted.
Right.
So this actually did result in a death, which is terrible.
But he didn't murder anybody.
It was absolutely an accident.
They don't know how he got on the highway.
For all we know, they could have forgot one of the exits or the entrances.
He could have just been going.
The GPS might have just been like, take a right onto the entrance and boom, followed it up.
Did they put a hard roadblock in the highway?
Right, did they?
What if he got on a long time ago?
Right.
What if he just made a wrong turn?
They don't even know yet.
So how are they adding this and making this what they're slamming on him when they don't
even have all the information?
Well, maybe maybe it'll go to trial.
Maybe maybe he'll win.
But you think this guy's gonna be able to afford a real attorney, a real lawyer to defend
him?
No, I certainly want to give him a little bit of help.
Yeah, seriously.
So here's I pulled up the state law for Washington.
They say vehicular homicide. it is a manslaughter charge.
A crime related to manslaughter is vehicular homicide, which is defined as a death caused by any type of motor vehicle, including a car, SUV, taxi, motorcycle, truck, or bus.
Under state law, any death that occurs within three years after an auto accident due to injuries incurred in the accident can be considered vehicular homicide if the accident was caused by another driver's negligence why send someone to to uh why charge him with a felony and put him in
prison for for several years over what's obviously an accident to make an example out of him yeah i
think but what's that gonna do nobody knows it's gonna cause more disruptions more people being
upset no i'm talking about the law in general outside of all of this okay like these laws are everywhere it never made sense to me when they're like somebody is driving a car
and it's negligent not malicious and they into an accident and they're sad and they're upset and it
was an accident and they have no intent on committing crimes ever again and so you're like
yeah but we think we should just totally destroy your life and lock you up for several years yeah
not only do you have the death of someone on your on your conscience forever without the intent to actually kill them
exactly it was an accident they say accident yeah yeah i mean i that's that's what i was saying the
other day like i feel bad for this guy because i mean he he was in the car he heard them hit the
car and he tried stopping continually continually asked the cops are they okay like i tried stopping
i want to know if they're okay please tell me if they're okay it's like man he clearly and they they came after him so he drove
further away it's like he didn't drive away he waited for them man i feel bad for him he's got
it on his conscience it's like that is enough that that's that's terrible he didn't he didn't
do it on purpose it's a class a felony it's insane if a person commits vehicular homicide
under the influence of drugs or alcohol,
an additional two years will be added to the sentence.
So I believe as a felony, it's probably a minimum of one year.
I don't know entirely.
You know, it could be different in Washington.
But what about the people who are on the highway?
Don't they have responsibility for breaking the law?
Or who led them there?
Who was letting them dance on the highway?
It's not even about who let them.
Nobody did.
But they broke the law
by being on the highway
of obstructing a highway.
That's a good point.
Do they have no responsibility?
Are any of these other people
going to be arrested?
No.
I'll tell you what.
Arrest this guy.
Lock him up for vehicular homicide.
I get it.
The law's in the books.
And every single person
doing that stupid shuffle dance
should get charged
for whatever the charge is
for obstructing a highway.
The police won't do it.
And for causing a death.
Not just an accident.
Every single one of those people on the highway should be charged with some kind of...
I 100% agree with you.
Absolutely.
But this is the name of the game, man.
This is why I want to get as far away from these cities as possible.
It is in our faces.
You will be driving down the road.
They will jump on your car.
They will shoot you.
And then you will get arrested if you try and do anything.
They have given these people carte blanche to just go around and do whatever they want
with impunity.
It's crazy.
Yeah. So can the feds come in and do whatever they want with impunity. It's crazy. Yeah.
So can the feds come in and do something about this?
Not this guy specifically, but they were on an interstate.
That's federal jurisdiction, right?
How about you charge them?
Trump, charge these people for blocking the highways.
They keep doing it across the country.
Now, there's no law and order, and it's not going to come from the Republicans.
It's not going to come from Trump.
I have no faith in anybody.
You know, I look at what's going on in New Jersey second
with Jeff Andrew. You know, you know what's going on with this? No. What is it? Jeff Andrews,
the guy who switched from Democrat to Republican. OK, right. So now what do we what do we get?
We have a district that is traditionally Republican voting in a moderate right leaning
Democrat. OK, probably the furthest left Republican in the Republican Party.
Yeah.
Now that's fine
because Jeff Andrew,
I think, is an okay dude.
I don't agree with some of them.
He's actually further right than I am.
But if the whole party is being,
if all of our political space
is being pulled to the left,
that even in this district
that's Republican,
they're going to vote in,
you know, a left-leaning,
technically a far-left Republican
by Republican standards,
I'm not convinced that whatever happens in November is going to rectify any of this.
These cultural issues have nothing to do with politics, and politics comes so far after the
cultural issues, it's pointless. There's nothing, I don't, I'm sorry, man, I'm being pessimistic,
but I don't know what can be done at this point. Yeah, and that's actually on that note, it's like
they're mixing them both together, so you can't even start an argument because politics, culture, it doesn't matter to them.
It's all in this big mess of that's what they're angry about.
It's like, well, what are you angry about?
Well, the culture and everything and the society and all political realm.
It's everything's fault.
So you can't even like start a conversation
because it's all of it together they combined it we we have jumped so hard into authoritarianism
over the past several months yep you're absolutely right several years and this is cultural there is
no changing it there is no resistance to the authoritarian takeover there is no republican
there is no conservative there is no right-leaning individual that. There is no Republican. There is no conservative.
There is no right-leaning individual that is part of a large resistance group that challenges this stuff. The closest thing you have to it is the intellectual dark web, a group of academics and
high-profile individuals and some conservatives who are challenging this. What I mean to say is,
of course, there are people who are Trump supporters, conservative, moderate, who all agree this stuff has gone too far. But there is no collective organization
that works like the left does to destroy our civil rights and civil liberties.
In California, they have literally voted the state assembly and the state senate to repeal
civil rights law from their constitution. It is happening in our faces. It's crazy.
Across this country, morality placing is taking over,
and there is no organizing from anyone anywhere to challenge it.
There's a little bit, but what ends up happening,
and what I've been seeing from a lot of commentators,
is that conservatives sit back and say,
wow, this stuff is bad.
I'm going to vote for somebody come November,
but the politics comes later.
Who's the one who said that politics is down?
Andrew Breitbart.
Breitbart.
Politics is downstream from culture.
That's one of my favorite quotes.
That's why everything always moves to the far left, because all of these big brands think left is safe.
No one knows the line is for the left and no one is challenging it.
And when you do, you get banned.
Well, there's a few that are standing up right now.
But think about the organizational power of the left.
They have dozens to hundreds of nonprofits that manipulate, lie, target, destroy, harass.
And the right has people, individuals.
And that's the weakness.
And that's actually the core philosophy of each side in a sense.
The right is individualist and the left is collectivist
that's true so the left forms a collective gets a bunch of dumb people to send stupid emails
they go out they block highways committing a serious a crime nothing happens they tear down
statues how many people have been arrested for tearing down statues like five and that's trump
yeah and it's for the most part now there was there was a handful of people at
the state level who have been arrested okay but you look at the sheer number of people who have
gone around doing this then you look at the people who who painted over two letters of black lives
matter in that in that california town getting charged the hate crime this is it man we we saw
it with covid we see it now with the riots If you go out and say lockdowns are bad,
here's a $500 fine. You go to church?
Remember when those people went to church in their cars and the cop went car to car
giving out tickets? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
But you can dance on the highway. No problem. Well, now
it's even getting worse. Like people are going to church
and the Black Lives Matter
movement is showing up and
screaming at the people going to church. Yeah.
And going into the church and like shutting it down. Shut it down. Black Lives Matter. And it's like you guys are in the
church. Like what what are you fighting against right now? I thought it was police reform. And
then now it's, you know, bring down the patriarchy and the nuclear family. And it's like, what what
is your what is the goal? You know, you know, I You know, I don't think anything's going to stop this.
No?
When Trump supporters, bikers for Trump, came out to that small Ohio town and counter-protested,
the media said far right, violent, all that really negative stuff.
Well, I mean, everybody but the far left is far right to them.
So, of course.
Because of the cultural institutions being controlled by the ideological left.
So if I think there's only so I think there's a there's a couple.
No, voting won't change anything.
It's too late.
Electing a politician won't do anything because then for then two years later, you will have an ideological backlash from the fact that they're banning
conservatives.
They're banning moderates.
You're not allowed to say certain words or names.
So what do you think happens in the next election if Republicans win?
The Republicans will do nothing.
They will not pass 230 reform.
They'll say, well, you know, private corporations, that's a good argument.
They'll argue about it.
And then two years later, the screeching, reeing left will vote in their people, take the House and pass hate
speech laws. They'll get their Supreme Court, you know, nominees if Trump doesn't win. Then they'll
start they'll start making rulings on what the First Amendment doesn't actually talk about for,
you know, about hate speech. So we can make hate speech illegal. I don't see I don't see a way out
unless literally nine out of ten Americans
sit on their front porch and put a flag up or something
asserting that we will not be bullied.
But it's just like, how do you get the supposed silent majority
to be the vocal majority?
That's something I've been asking myself every day, Tim.
People keep saying the silent majority will speak up in November
and Trump will win and the Republicans will win.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe they will.
Or maybe it doesn't matter whether or not there's a silent majority at all.
I can't remember who said this.
I think it may have been Michael Malice.
I'm probably crediting the wrong person.
Maybe it was Jesse Kelly.
Whatever.
I'm shouting you guys out, so I don't know who said it.
They said if a tree falls in the forest and no one's around to hear it, it make a sound no so if there is a silent majority and they're silent they may as
well not exist it makes a sound the tree yep but no one hears it that's okay so no one knows no
one cares no action is taken the tree is never removed there you just have a downed tree and
you have the problems caused by a downed tree so if you have a silent majority and they say nothing
they may as
well not exist i think that was greg gutfeld was it greg yeah five days ago yeah i shouted out the
wrong people greg good tweet and i commented to it you responded uh i just shouted a bunch of
people whatever it was you know it's like it's always one of them they make good points right
they do yeah so the way i see it is we've you know what i was thinking earlier i was like you
know what i think i think we lost a long time ago i think so sun tzu out of war no you you win the
war i disagree before going to war bro we just we've been watching across the country sure people
being charged like a cop being he's facing the death penalty for doing his job and there's no
protest no riot no no one speaking up.
Like, I say no one, I'm exaggerating.
Of course there are some people speaking up.
There's no collective organizations.
The blue flu in Atlanta was only like 100 and something off, 100.
It was over 300 people.
300 cops.
Are you sure?
In Atlanta?
Oh, no, in LA.
No, no, in Atlanta, over Rayshard Brooks, it was like 150.
Oh, okay.
They got to have more cops than in Atlanta.
Even the cops don't stand up for each other, which is surprising.
In New York, there's been a little bit of a blue flu.
LA had a blue flu.
But these are jurisdictions with tens of thousands of police officers and support staff.
They don't stand up.
They don't speak up.
Nobody cares.
Look, man, how do you have, for I think it was 19 days,
these people were dancing on the highway, and the cops didn't arrest any of them.
They're allowed to do this.
They're allowed to break the COVID rules.
They're allowed to break CDC regulations.
You're not going to convince me.
I'm not trying to convince anyone.
I'm just complaining.
Yeah.
I don't like I don't like complaining.
I'm sick of people complaining.
Like, I want to work on the answer, what we need to do. What do we need to do? I get it. I get it. That's why I keep saying, like, they're firing on all cylinders. They're trying their hardest right now because they are losing the power that they've been used to control the masses. The power to do what they really feel like.
This is them unleashing the beast.
The beast to try to reclaim the control that they are clearly fighting for.
When did they lose it?
They've been controlling cultural institutions forever.
They haven't lost it.
I'm saying their grip is loosening.
They're seeing it.
That's why they hate Trump so much.
If their grip is loosening, why is it worse?
Trump's flipping the table on them. Because it's getting're they're seeing it that's why they hate trump so much but if their grip is loosening why is it flipping the table on them because it's getting worse and worse trump's finally
canceling china basically it's like yes he spoke about china for a long time but
all of a sudden it's you know that doesn't change their control of cultural institutions which
dictate our politics three four years later okay if they are getting away with breaking the law
and the states and the police and the das are all supporting it and all the major corporations are supporting their their religion, then then then what?
It doesn't matter if Trump does anything to China. It doesn't even matter if Trump wins, because in four years you're not reversing two decades of indoctrination.
Well, we're not seeing it because, number one, the media isn't going to want anyone to see this.
All right. I'm hearing stories that sheriff departments are like, we're not wearing masks.
We're not enforcing this mask law anymore. And it's happening.
I'm seeing little inklings of it because it filters out.
People are like, yo, check this out. This is actually happening.
And I look into it and it's true. So there's places out there that are standing up you know it's the cities then yeah absolutely it's the cities and who
controls the cities the democrats they want this to go on they that's why they're using this guy
as an example they're like oh man we got to give them the 1.2 million dollar bond that's obscene
absolutely to it they they want to they're taking taken it up to 11, and they're pushing on everyone, trying to convince the rest of us.
Like, they're convincing you.
You just told me, I don't think we're going to win.
I think we've given up.
Oh, no, I said I think we already lost.
I think we've already lost.
Even worse.
Even worse.
They got you.
Well, they didn't get me.
Got me in what regard, though?
They've convinced you that you've lost. And what is that? What does it accomplish for them?
You give you're going to give up. You're going to go live down by the river and I'm going to take over the show.
No, we're moving to the middle of nowhere to get out of the cities.
I know I'm just making up. I'm kind of making a joke, but I'm also you just basically said that, though.
So it's like I'm not going to be convinced that they're going to take over our country. No, I'm not. Absolutely not. I'm going to, I'm going to keep doing my
research every day. I do hours of research. I'm learning how we got to this point. I'm learning
the laws that we have right now. I want to know all the stuff that I can, so that I can talk about
it and figure it out. Cause I just said, I don't like complaining. I don't like complaining. I
don't like people that complain. I want to talk about the solutions i want to i want to work on how to move forward what's the
solution really if i had that you think i would i wouldn't have led with that if i had the solution
already give me an idea of what you think we do now more people need to do exactly what i'm doing
right now do their research open their eyes look what's actually happening that's
what needs to happen and then what and then what what do you mean yeah how do they apply it like
just in voting man i wish i had all the answers yeah i wish i had all the answers for the answers
too well i am not going to give up right no way give up in what regard though what roll over and
and let them win let them take and destroy our history, let them tell me that this country isn't great anymore,
that we're not on the forefront of showing the world
what it's like to be free.
What would inspire the silent majority
to all at the same time go out in the streets
and march in the hundreds of thousands?
That's a great question.
It's a great question, Tim.
I don't think anything.
All right. I think there's a great question. It's a great question, Tim. I don't think anything. All right.
I think there's a couple big problems.
With the hyper-concentration of the progressive left in cities,
all they have to do is walk out their front door
and they find thousands of people who agree with them.
For conservatives and moderates,
you live in the suburbs, you live in the rural areas,
you're miles away from the next person,
you'd all have to fly to one city to be seen.
So this is an interesting thing about Donald Trump's inauguration, and they mocked him over it,
saying that nobody showed up. Well, Trump's got a huge rural voter base. They're not all going to
fly to D.C. They're going to watch online. So based on the online live stream numbers, he had a really
large inauguration viewership. If brand marketing, big business has already been infiltrated by the far left i i guess
they they just they just shift their whatever mask they're wearing to keep keep people buying
spending all their money on the stuff they don't need that's exactly what paypal will will ban you
outright if you have bad opinions and they and they, I think, like 76% or 78%
of all financial transactions online.
Some ridiculous number.
Next up is Stripe.
Other than that, there's like basically nothing.
And Stripe has the same rules.
Same rules.
Makes me not want to use PayPal anymore.
Do you see what happened?
Do you know what happened with Gab?
What about it i
think it was gab google seized their domain their domain name right let me look at that gab i think
i think so i think it was gab maybe that was the daily stormer oh yeah yeah i didn't do the storm
gab had uh right now torba the guy who founded gab okay has been banned from credit card companies
i think no no i think it's just Visa.
Okay.
And anybody who is associated with him or his address can't use Visa anymore.
Okay.
What happens if Visa and MasterCard ban you?
And they have done this already.
One guy, his name is, I think, Robert Spencer.
Is that the guy?
Oh, the Jihad guy?
Yeah, he's a well-known researcher.
Not Richard Spencer.
Not Richard. His name is Robert Spencer.
And apparently MasterCard contacted Patreon and said,
terminate his income.
And Patreon said, you got it.
And then one day he woke up and all of his income for his business was gone.
Chase Bank banned Enrique Tarrio, the chairman of the Proud Boys.
They terminated his personal accounts.
Okay.
Because a journalist contacted them and said that he was far right or whatever.
So these companies, these financial institutions, already have the rules in place.
And they will ban you if you get out of line.
You will not be able to use a credit card.
You will not be able to open a bank account.
It's happened.
These people are gone. And no one's done one's anything and that's it they're just gone
like their their businesses were destroyed they they're no longer in the in the public realm
and it keeps happening and it's been getting worse and now we've graduated to the next level
where these people of this ideology can willfully break the law on federal property and no one
charges them with a crime so what so what do we do tim
what what is the answer huh are you gonna give up are you gonna are you gonna stop speaking out
you're gonna go live down by the river half we literally are going to live down by the river
that's that's funny it's funny to laugh at but i'm actually i'm serious like what do you what
what is i'm not i'm not kidding when i say halfway there, getting away from the cities, getting out
of New Jersey.
Dude, I tell you, I know a lot of people who have fled the cities.
In New York, 500,000 middle class and wealthy people have fled the cities already.
Yeah, don't blame them.
So maybe that will strip their power away.
Maybe that's a big move that will take the power away from these institutions.
There's also the argument that a major flood of progressive leftists into
rural areas will overwhelm the rural areas, and then it will fracture the electoral college and
then give the intersectional left the win from this point on. I mean, people have already said
there will never be another Republican president after Donald Trump.
Yeah, I think that's silly, too.
Well, the Republican Party will change.
Okay.
You know, that's what's silly, too. Well, the Republican Party will change. Okay. You know, that's what happened.
It has been changing.
In a good way, though.
You know, we have to have the ability to change.
That's kind of what cancel culture is ridiculous because, you know, it's like they don't allow people to, number one, admit that they were wrong.
It doesn't matter if you were wrong.
You're canceled.
You're done forever.
You can't change, you know.
Like Don Lemon changed in in the worst way you know
like he he said some really solid stuff that like makes sense to me anyway and you know now he's this
drone you know because he conformed well not everybody's now people are seeing it and they're
like this is ridiculous yeah this is a drone what's the worst case scenario if we all just said, okay, to the left?
I don't want to think about that.
I'm not going to cater to that.
No.
I would never do that.
So no, I'm not even going to talk about it.
Many of these people who have bent the knee to them will keep their mouth shut and keep feeding their
families and say you know i don't care about anybody else but myself and if i just stay quiet
keep my head down i'll get by i'll just tell them to look at what the mayor was doing in seattle
oh yeah go go do do it summer of love three days later they show up at her house she's the mayor
so you think about it this way okay if there's a thousand potential targets and you stick your head up and say, hey, enough,
it's you.
If you keep your head down, it's one in a thousand.
You might get by.
I'd be willing to bet this is the problem we have with the silent majority.
Most of the people are saying, why should I guarantee the risk to myself when I can
cross my fingers and hope I don't win the lottery?
I don't know. Ask Terry Crews. He's he's he's on a stage.
He's using his voice. I'm on a stage right now. I'm using my voice.
I hope I hope a lot of people are listening to what I'm saying and doing their own research.
In fact, they're hitting me up saying, thank you. We are. I'm doing research. I'm seeing what it is. I used to be a Democrat. I'm no longer a Democrat because I see what's
going on in the world. So I'm using I'm doing what I can right now. Yeah, this is what I can do.
I want to see these people were on an interstate highway, right? Yeah. So so where's Bill Barr?
Come on. Lock him up. Good question. Lock him up. Good question.
Lock him up.
Good question.
Two people died.
Why was Seattle having anything to do with it if it was an interstate?
That's federal.
When I was in during the Ferguson protests, they organized an interstate protest.
And they were specifically warned by the organizers that interstate is federal jurisdiction,
which means if you get arrested, you are not going to a local county station.
You're going to be taken by the feds and the feds never lose.
That's right.
So they were like, keep that in mind if you choose to do this.
Why?
Why is you know, you know, maybe maybe the idea among maybe there's two scenarios.
Trump is disorganized and not paying attention to other things to worry about. And so no one's going after these protesters who keep doing this. I think the president's two scenarios. Trump is disorganized and not paying attention. He's got other things
to worry about. And so no one's going after these protesters who keep doing this. I think the
president's paying attention. Then maybe they're ignoring it on purpose because it makes people
like me angry, really angry. Yeah. And then it makes people like me really angry, too. And then
I guess I'm just going about it a little differently than you are. I want to know when it comes to
November, if I have a choice between Biden, which is obviously a no, and Trump, but Trump has the
ability to start arresting these people on federal highways, why he didn't do it, why he deserves my
vote. I like the Garden of Heroes. That's a good rebuttal. I like that he's actually sent out DHS
and FPS to go start arresting some of these people who are destroying things on federal property.
I mean, that's like being mad at him for killing 100,000 people because of COVID.
It's like, you think that the president of the United States can handle being the president
and doing, I don't know, I've never been the president.
I don't know what kind of, what entails that job, the amount of stuff that they have to
do, knowing exactly what's going on with every single country, you know, all around.
The pressure's probably immense.
No wonder he goes golfing.
It's like, I like golfing.
I've been golfing.
I get it.
You think he could lean over to someone and say, I want you to go talk to, you know,
Barr or someone at the DOJ, and I want these people prosecuted.
He can't do that?
There's, I know when to, when I know know something and I know when I don't know something.
It's like I have never been in that position. I could never understand the pressure that he is in.
I won't pretend to know. So I want tangibles.
OK, I will not simply be like, well, I guess I'll vote for Trump if he's not doing anything for me.
Well, we're not we have no idea what his platform is yet.
Like they he's waiting for the DNC to to tell everyone that Hillary's running instead of Biden.
Yeah, Hillary's going to run and take over for Biden.
She said it today that she would probably beat Trump.
Well, it was an interview.
Oh, it was Friday, right.
Yeah, and she said that she would beat him in November.
And that's maybe what they're waiting for.
They're waiting for something to happen because Biden's going to drop out.
But here's what I can say.
People are like, admit it, you're going to vote for Trump or whatever.
And I said, leaning towards probably if it was today, we'll see what happens.
And that's because for one, Garden of Heroes, awesome.
I love it.
I literally love it.
I do too.
It's incredible.
Beautiful.
Everyone agrees.
They don't, which is stupid because they should.
They definitely should.
I don't get it.
Department of Homeland Security, protecting statues. I like it. Fantastic. Me too. Excellent job. Yep. They don't, which is stupid because they should. They definitely should. I don't get it. Department of Homeland Security protecting statues.
I like it.
Fantastic.
Me too.
Excellent job.
Yep.
And I want to see when they have the power to actually arrest these people.
Leaving the WHO?
Great, great idea.
That I don't know about.
I think so.
I think there's a lot of problems and I think Trump might be pulling a big ask.
I think China and the who are
working hand in hand and then china dumped in two billion dollars when trump said we wouldn't fund
you and china was like don't worry about it here's two billion yeah because yeah we've been
again it's another mask is it is i think from from at this point you have to have faith that
there you have to have hope that a republican sweep of the house in the senate
plus a trump victory will reverse course and save this ship and it doesn't matter if you think it
can't either even if you think like i was saying maybe we already lost that's not i'm not saying
we don't go vote we don't keep trying it means like maybe we need to start making plans for what that entails.
So tell me, what would that entail?
What does that mean?
If they want the left to win.
That's it?
Just moving out of cities?
Yeah.
And then we take it one step at a time.
Okay.
So you have people who have been indoctrinated their entire lives and are a part of a new religion that cannot be broken from their minds
and we have four years of trump hopefully if he wins to or i shouldn't even say trump it's not
even about trump it's about the republicans doing 230 reform section 230 reform would be like a
silver bullet that will you know reverse course so fast for the online community, for this country,
forcing these tech companies
to uphold legal speech
will flip this boat around
in two seconds.
The DOJ has already proposed it.
It's a good idea.
It's a good point.
They can't get it through the House,
and so it's not going to happen
unless the Republicans win
both the House and the Senate.
That is our best hope.
Well, they don't want that
because that is like
their last vestige of control.
You know, the fact that they can ban anyone that disagrees with them, that they're canceling people left and right that are further on the right than what they want.
You know, I'm probably on their radar right now.
I'm sure I'm on their list.
You got mini canceled.
Yeah.
Kind of.
Your video where you're explaining voting for Trump, they nuked that several times.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure Facebook shadowbans my post now.
Yeah, dude.
You're a threat.
I've been very vocal on Facebook lately.
So people know that I'm not happy with it.
When Tim Pool does a video where he's like, cancel culture is bad, but Trump is still kind of bad too.
They say, that's fine.
Ignore him. Yeah. But then you jump on the show and you're like, no, I'm going all in for Trump. bad but you know trump trump is still kind of bad too they say that's fine ignore him yeah but then
you jump on the show and you're like no i'm going i'm going all in for trump yeah then they're like
that's a problem yeah they tolerate me they they want me to be as far right as people are willing
to go then you step on board and you're like i'm going all in and they're like ban his video
unapologetically man i i regret nothing i i will never i i won nothing. I won't change my vision, my opinions, because they want me to.
No way.
I'll stand against that wall, man.
As Terry said, I'll die on that hill.
Gladly.
I'll stand with Terry Crews, man.
So what do you do if the blue wave hits?
They sweep the House and the Senate.
Biden wins and it's just blue all across the board, baby.
Now, Mike Cernovich said in this scenario, it would result in a very far right government
in four years because Joe Biden is weak and the blue wave would result in a loss of law
and order.
People in cities and rural areas would not tolerate the lawlessness.
And it would cause a major backlash among the silent majority who rushes out and then votes in all hard right across the board.
Based on the trajectory of British politics, there's good reason to believe that regardless of the polls, we are going to see the biggest Republican victory in 100 years.
That makes sense but it's not based off of hard data point it's anecdotal yeah but the you the
hard the hard data points that they're shoving down everyone's throats we've already known that
they're they're not not the truth they've they've been broken for since 2015 probably those polls
that probably probably beforehand but it
didn't matter because they had their mascot as president when obama was in the presidency
for eight years polls were relatively you know pointless right so the polls could have been
broken for two decades now good point and we might not even know you're absolutely right they can't
track it properly i wasn't political back then. I had no idea. But the important the important thing is that
the national polls in 2016 weren't actually wrong. They got the popular vote mostly correct.
There was a margin of error. So they actually got it right. OK. The problem was that the probability
of Trump winning was was considered to be nil. However, what's that what's that poll called?
Norpoth or whatever. Oh, that was a professor who was ail. However, what's that poll called? Which one?
Norpoth or whatever.
Oh, that was the professor who was talking about.
Yeah.
He's saying 91% chance that Trump wins.
Yeah.
Off of primary votes.
You want to know something crazy?
What?
New Jersey won't release the primary vote tally for Trump.
No way.
Yeah.
Really?
So the official reporting is that the numbers will not be tallied because the race is uncontested.
So maybe that's the hope. Maybe, maybe, maybe they're desperately trying to sweep this under the rug.
Dude, they're trying to convince the public that there's no hope anymore.
I see it when I look at you talking to me for the past 25 minutes.
I'm not saying don't vote and don't fight. I know that. I know that that's not what you're saying, but you are awfully
defeated about this. And that's what
that's, I'm not necessarily,
you might not be convinced, but that's what
they're trying to do. They're trying to convince people
that it's pointless, you've lost,
don't even, you can't speak up
because we're going to cancel you,
we're going to call your job. I'm saying
to speak up. I am too.
The point I'm making. I'm, too. The point I'm making.
I'm speaking up.
The point I'm making about recognizing we may have already lost is that even with four years of Trump and the Republicans, the culture of the far left will not change.
And these people are indoctrinated.
They will not be changed.
See, I don't I don't know if I agree with that because of what we were talking about last night, about how, you know, how how fast we've gone in six months.
Right. How fast have we gotten here? How long has it changed? And then you made a good point of, you know, we really haven't looked at the nuances of how long it's really been going on, which is more like since 2010, 2012.
Probably by. Yes. yeah since the abundance of everybody being on facebook and becoming like a you know younger and younger children you know kids have gotten onto facebook at an earlier
earlier age what you know what is the the number one thing chinese kids want to do when they grow
up do you know what the answer is an astronaut astronaut yeah that's correct american kids you
know what it is youtuber influencer they want to be influencers they have i have i told you how
this started no what so So I'll give you
the academic breakdown. I had a conversation with Peter Boghossian about this. We did a podcast.
And James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose. And his view as a, you know, he's in academia. He's an
associate, I believe he's an associate professor of philosophy, was that it started, this mentality,
this ideology of intersectionalism started in the late 70s, 80s,
and they started teaching people this stuff. Eventually, the professors had this ideology
and started teaching their students and it spread since then. And now we have a generation that
were raised on this ideology. They've entered the real world. Okay. So I don't want to lose
the reason I was bringing this up. So we got here and we're here now, right? Everyone's seeing it.
Everyone, because even because of the pandemic, it's even more crazy.
Everyone's actually seeing it, talking about it, saying, wow, this is really crazy.
This kind of mentality that people are gaining because of the Internet. We're calling out teachers.
We're seeing what they're actually teaching our children. People are starting to homeschool.
So so it took us to here. And I think it's going to be even faster when we we suddenly just go.
We've had enough.
I have 30 reform.
We need it.
I absolutely agree with you.
30 reform would be Donald Trump pulling out of what was that gun we were watching earlier?
The 500 Magnum Magnum.
The 500 Magnum.
The barrel was super long.
Putting a silver bullet in.
Boom.
President Trump, if you are listening to me right now or our show, number one, I'd be honored.
And number two, listen to what he just said.
He would be pulling out, like you ever see the Joker when the Joker pulls out that really long revolver?
Oh, yeah.
Love that scene.
Putting a silver bullet in it and then boom.
Yeah, two two things 230 reform
and uh ending the war on drugs oh definitely if well i would nail it i mean if trump came out
and said like the week before the first thing i'll do is an executive order releasing non-violent
offenders amazing yeah i think it's i think it's sitting in his pocket i think i think he's sitting
on it maybe i hope so i I don't know why he wouldn't
do it. It's so weird to me. It's like,
I mean, maybe there's something we don't know about
what's going on in the inner workings of government, but
let me tell you why 230 reform is so important.
So go back to that point about how
we got here. When I was bringing up Peter Boghossian,
that was his view, and I disagreed.
Many different ideologies
exist. Many different non-theistic religions exist
and they're not prominent.
Intersectionalism became prominent
because of Facebook algorithms.
When Facebook launched and publishers realized
they could make money by getting shares on their articles,
they started creating clickbait.
I think clickbait was invented by Upworthy.
So the specific clickbait, people don't understand this, clickbait is when you i think clickbait was invented by upworthy the uh so the specific
clickbait people don't understand this clickbait is when you omit information from a title
so that people feel pain emotions it no you feel a pain that's an emotion i guess it's actually a
negative it's a physical painful response emotion so when you see a headline that says, I can't believe this man actually did this to the dog.
How gross.
Sure.
Well, no, what happens is there's actually a negative physiological response people have when they don't experience the complete process that makes them want to.
Like, I have to know.
I have to have the complete pull through.
Right.
You have to tell me what it is. And so they realized this and started repackaging content, videos, YouTube videos, but clickbait titles, which generated a ton of revenue.
So here's the basic process.
A publisher emerges and goes on Facebook, and they write a news story.
They say Adam Krigler lands perfect backflip.
People see the headline, and they're like.
You could have said hardflip. Perfect hardflip. People see the headline and they're like, you could have said hard flip.
Perfect hard flip.
Cause I actually did.
It was fantastic.
Yeah.
Adam Criggler nails hard flip in,
in,
in the backyard.
You could say that a million times.
I just,
I love it.
Now,
what if they did a clickbait headline?
I can't believe Adam Criggler pulled this off.
Which one gets more traffic?
The second,
the clickbait,
obviously.
Yeah.
They started to realize that anger actually got more shares than clickbait.
That's true.
It's proven.
And so the evolution changed and that women share more than men.
So they realized that when they would do a video or an article about police brutality,
they would get 10 times the shares of an average article.
And so immediately the boss of this company said, do more of this.
All of a sudden you were met with this conundrum where a legitimate news organization would get
a thousand views and your clickbait rage, the police are bad, would get 10,000.
500,000. Yeah.
Yeah. 500,000. Then the venture capital came in and they said, who do we fund? Well,
clearly they get way more views, fund Yeah. Something magical happened. The people realized that if they wrote about racist police, they would get X views.
They also realized that when they wrote about sexist police, they would get Y views.
Ding!
Light bulb.
Gosh.
Racist sexist police is X Y views.
X plus Y views or arguably X times Y.
And that's where intersectionalism became extremely prominent.
You ended up with articles that would say something like there's there's one article from Vice that was like black trans women fighting police brutality are the are, you know, are the feminist heroes we need for Black Lives Matter.
It's like they just took literally every word possible and jammed it into an article we read about Ivanka Trump.
Exactly. Yes.
That put all of the keywords.
Oh, yeah.
I remember that.
Just jammed it all in.
Yeah, that was amazing.
Or like that little video that's how Vice makes their, they close their eyes and just
throw something.
Throw a dildo?
Yes.
At the wall.
Venezuela, transgenders.
Ketamine dealers.
Ketamine dealers.
Yep.
And then that's an actual article that they did.
Well, so, but that's.
That's how it works.
That's true.
Yeah.
And so you were getting these different keywords that would attract people.
But then Vice also learned the lesson.
Yeah.
Just put racist, sexist, anti-gay Donald Trump.
And now but now we're at a phase where all those a certain generation of people, you know, including myself, like there's a certain age group that that kind of fell into that.
Right. And they were they were a part of that that and now we're kind of coming out of it and a lot of those
people have kids a lot of my friends have kids they're teaching their kids that this is craziness
you know they aren't letting them have ipads anymore it's kind of like i feel like it's
coming around you know i i'm i can only really speak for myself ever. So in my own personal experience, I'm seeing what they're doing.
I know what a clickbait is.
The word, the term clickbait is in everybody's vocabulary.
We all know what clickbait is.
We don't.
Really.
The definition of clickbait is, has changed.
Okay.
Well, again, my own personal experience and the people that I know,
every, almost every person I know, you know what clickbait is?
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure. I'll do a poll.
You know what clickbait is?
99% of people right now say clickbait is like a sensational title.
That's not clickbait. Okay.
That's either like you could argue it's rage bait.
Rage bait is something different. Oh. Clickbait. Okay. That's either, like, you could argue it's rage bait. Rage bait is something different.
Oh.
Clickbait literally is, so there's a forum on Reddit called Saved You a Click that specifically targets clickbait.
Yeah.
People now refer to rage bait as clickbait.
Okay.
Rage bait would be like, you know, racist, sexist, anti-gay Donald Trump does a backflip.
Okay.
You want people to get angry, so they click on it.
Yeah, I would argue that it's the same.
Clickbait is a literal
definition. Well, we can talk
semantics, but I
don't want to. You can argue that
rage bait is a form of clickbait from a parent tree
kind of perspective. Sure.
Let's just go with that. The origins was literally
omitting information to trick someone
to force them to click.
But I think one thing that happened with that, too, is that people got tired of it i just started scrolling past and i'm
like if you don't tell me i don't want it i don't want absolutely you're absolutely right yeah and i
think that's widespread section 230 reform i i love that i think it's i think it's a good a good
idea we need we need that the doj proposed it there i don't think they go hard enough the general idea
is that if the speech is legal, it can't be removed.
Otherwise, you lose your liability protection.
But they're making speech illegal anyway.
It's like they're choosing what's legal.
So, like, where's the line?
They're clearly not caring
anymore. They're like, whatever.
We're just going to ban whatever we don't like.
So you're saying we lost. It's hopeless.
No, absolutely not. We have to stand up more
than ever. We have to speak up.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
There is a challenge in, like, what constitutes harassment because there are harassment laws.
Okay.
And someone could argue, like, he tweeted at me three times, and I told him to stop, and he kept doing it.
And maybe you'll see more of that.
Okay.
Good.
I don't care.
Don't harass people.
Even if it is minor, then we'll have to figure out where that line is well i mean i mean sending someone death threats is is pretty significant but that's versus versus going on
every single being a reply guy and just like saying mean things all the time it's just like
okay you can just block them you can just right you know ban them from your page so there was a
big difference there was a guy in canada who after he got blocked kept tweeting at him because you
can and then he got i think he won but he got arrested for harassment because of this.
Okay.
Either way, look, man, if we say that legal speech is protected, then the past 10 years will be erased.
All of a sudden, you'll see every conservative start saying exactly what they think, what they want.
You'll have people who have been banned coming back.
Maybe not necessarily coming back because they might say,
oh, our bans are, you know, in effect or whatever.
But this would be massive.
There's another potential for victory, and that's decentralization,
which we're seeing now with the WIN network.
The Donald.Win.
This is really hilarious, right?
You start with with reddit
okay reddit was basically a a parent forum with a bunch of smaller forums and then because reddit
has become totalitarian like the the justice served subreddit announced you can no longer
post videos of people of color who are committing crimes yeah i saw that what's like what right
they're choosing they're they're pushing the specific narrative that fits their cause only that's it and that's that is not free speech
well they don't they don't believe in free speech i know they don't like you can make
white people look bad well so here's what happened the donald.win declared independence
you know good for them uh and they created their own website that's a clone of Reddit. And it's actually growing in rankings.
And now something magical happened.
What?
Several other subreddits declared independence.
Nice.
And are now part of an independent decentralized.win network.
Oh, you can do that.
So people are actually becoming aware of this clickbait culture,
cancel culture.
These forums are the anti-SAW forums. it's not a new discovery for these people these are the the forebearers of the fight right
but they're they're separating themselves because they're realizing that this they're they're it's
cancerous they're cutting the cancer out off of their their body basically declaring independence
sure and so this might restore some of the balance outside of 230
reform if these communities that are anti-sjw that are conservative moderate intellectual dark web
say we're going to have our subreddit be a a functioning independent website no one can change
the moderators and if people don't like it they can just leave no one will have the power to ban
them or control their speech.
I love that.
So Dave Rubin has been working on Locals.com,
which we've talked about a little bit privately.
For those that aren't familiar, the general idea is it's your own website.
It's a functioning social media network
with an independently connected network between other channels.
But it's your website on your server.
No one can touch it.
It's pretty cool.
No one's going to ban you. No one can ban you.'s your your website someone could go to dave and be like dave
you know this this person on locals said a naughty word and he'll be like i mean that's their server
we want to do about it yeah and so that decentralization is a is a large solution to
this the problem is like with parlor parlor came out and immediately the leftist media attacked it as far right
extremist nazi etc yep although this time still they're still doing it however because of high
profile conservatives it didn't stick and it didn't work all that much that's true when when
parlor first came out i i'm not entirely sure what happened it was a while ago but i think apple
tried banning it from the app store. Oh, wow.
And then I think it was Trump Jr.
Somebody intervened and was like, why?
And then it got reinstated or whatever.
So now they're trying to run a smear campaign
saying all the worst possible things about it.
And it's because the left controls all the cultural institutions.
Yep.
So one of the biggest problems the right has is they're not cool.
Okay.
I actually talked to this musician about this,
and he was pointing out that one of the things that works really well for what we are doing on this show is that we're, like,
stereotypically cool guys, skateboarding, you know, music playing.
You know what's really cool?
Hipster types.
You know what's really cool?
Standing up for what you believe.
Saluting the American flag and following all the rules.
That's cool. And you know what?
It's crazy because there's a lot of people on the left
that do exactly that.
And that's why they're so powerful right now.
We need more people standing up
for what's right.
They think they're right over there.
And they stand up for themselves.
And they proudly scream into the air what they believe.
You want to hear something really funny?
Of course.
There is a punk rock song from a band called Propagandhi.
Okay.
And it's called Stick the F-ing Flag Up Your G-D-A-U.
Son of a B.
Wow.
And the song, they're Canadian, I guess.
But I remember listening to the song
when i was a kid because my my uh older brother showed it to me and the song is basically like
this dude is being told to salute the flag conform and don't you dare speak out against it otherwise
you'll be destroyed yeah and so then he says well if this country is so gd free and then i can burn
your effing flag you know whenever i
whenever i damn well please yeah the interesting thing about it is that there's today i was i was
listening to the song earlier you know i just listened to ton of punk rock and i'm like
this makes no sense there that right now there is no you you you can burn the flag and that's it
and and nobody nobody you don't get canceled for it.
I don't know.
I don't like that at all.
Because you burn specific flags and that's hate speech, but you burn the American flag.
That's not hate.
Interesting.
That's you saying that it's hate speech.
You know what I'm going to do?
I am going to rewrite the lyrics to that song.
Oh, yeah?
Yep.
Cool.
And I'm going to say the same thing.
If this country is so free, I can burn your flag, whichever one. Yeah. But, but anyway, I was listening to the song and he basically talks
about one of the lines is a romanticized murder for morale. Okay. Talking about the war tie a
yellow ribbon around the Oak tree. My, uh, my friend and G Wally, that's swell. Like the idea
is like back then when they wrote the song, it was you supported your country.
They would go to war.
You do as you're told.
And if you spoke up against it, it was like, oh, you get like like someone someone brought this up that if in in the early 2000s, you mentioned that the reason we were under attack by terrorists was because of it was retaliation for our actions in in the middle east okay you would be banned canceled
kicked off shows bill maher had his show politically incorrect right canceled for you know
and so yeah so the political correctness existed the funny thing now is it's on the left it's all
leftist cultural you know censorship yeah like it always exists in some form yeah the funny thing is
listen listen to this song i'm like, it thematically fits more
with our fight against the left
than it does anything to do
with challenging war.
Interesting.
But for one big reason.
Donald Trump is trying
to pull our troops
out of Afghanistan
and they are stopping him.
I don't get that.
They're smearing him.
They're attacking him.
They're saying,
no, we must investigate
this Russia collusion stuff.
And I'm like,
if I was going to write
an anti-war song right now,
it would be like,
yay Donald Trump,
not F Donald Trump. Right. It would be like, yay, Donald Trump, not F Donald Trump.
Right.
It would be like, bring our troops home.
Donald Trump is the only one doing it.
What?
Right.
I mean, there's Rand Paul.
Don't get me wrong.
Thomas Massey.
Thomas Massey.
There's very few people that are actually like anti-war.
And this is the craziest thing, to see Republicans cheering right now, being like, yay, we're ending the wars.
I'm like, wow.
Yeah, wow.
But, you know, you listen to – you know what's really weird about it?
Tell me, Tim.
The Bad Religion wrote a pro-alt-right song.
Really?
Yep.
That's kind of weird.
Really weird.
I never really listened to Bad Religion, so I don't really know their music.
I used to listen to Bad Religion all the time.
Left-wing.
They claimed that the song was against the alt-right.
But if you listen to it, you're like, this is not against the alt-right.
It's telling people to like, it's promoting them.
There's like some lines in the song.
Now, when you say alt-right, like what are you talking about?
White nationalism.
Okay.
Like people who believe there should be a country just for the white race or whatever.
The kids aren't alt-right. The kids are alt-right. are alt-right okay that's the name of the song lyrics and like the chorus is everybody needs somebody join the party and become alt-right today oh my god it's
like that's that's fairly pro maybe maybe their goal was to be like ironic okay but right now
you know the the argument for the left is that ironic humor is the same as yeah
so they basically made an ironic nazi song where they're pro-nazi and here's what i think now if
some people swing for the fences and not everyone gets a home run that's a good point i think the
issue that the issue though is as much as the left look man punk rock is not left wing anymore if you wrote a song
where you were like f the war f you know bring the troops back f american imperialism you're not
talking about the left they they're they're pro war not all of them you have the progressive
anti-war people they tend to agree with us on our positions about free speech yeah people like glenn
greenwald for instance they, their free speech battle
is the issue of Israel and Palestine.
But they absolutely, like it's funny seeing
Glenn Greenwald constantly defend Donald Trump
because of the Russiagate lies
and the media lies and the pro-war stuff.
I know, it's funny.
So, if I was going to write a song today
and it was punk rock and really crazy,
I could write this whole anti-war
song condemning the politicians
and saying, you know, F your cause, F your demands, F your votes, end the war, bring the troops back.
And it would end with like, and that's why Donald Trump needs to win. And it's like voting for the
Republican suit wearing pro-America flag waving guy is now the anti-war move. That's true. He's the only one. Are there Democrats?
And maybe I just need to research each individual Democrat.
But it was a bipartisan effort, for the most part, to stop Trump from pulling our troops
out.
And of Syria, too.
They attack him for it.
They want the war machine.
All the people that have been in charge in government for a long time don't want things to change.
He's the anti-establishment president.
He wasn't supposed to win, man.
I know.
That's why they don't like him.
That's why I think they're going to cheat.
That's why I like him.
Dude, the more I look into it, I don't care.
I'm saying it.
Like, whatever.
If you got your news from only the New York Times, your image of Donald Trump would be like a winged demon snarling with fangs.
And if you actually watch Trump, it's actually more just like a 70-something-year-old lewd, mean guy.
I mean, I actually watch all of his speeches.
It's not that hard.
I pay attention.
I think that Donald Trump's speeches are the ultimate way to get a feel for what the media is actually thinking.
And that's what people are doing.
All you got to do is watch his speech.
Yep.
And then you can listen to what the media says about it.
And how they change it.
And you're like, oh, he said this.
And then they were like, oh, no, he actually said this.
You're like, no, no, I know that's not true.
But now I know.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
I mean, I tell people like people love to bash him like this whole Facebook thing.
Like I keep talking about it. But, you know, I tell people like people love to bash him like this whole Facebook thing. Like I keep talking about it.
But, you know, I'm on Facebook.
I'm openly saying these the same stuff.
I'm not changing at all.
And people are coming at me like, oh, blah, blah, blah.
And I just ask each and every single one of them.
Have you ever listened to any of his speeches?
The answer is always no.
And I just say, go go listen to his speeches before you even talk to me about him.
I don't need to listen to a racist.
I know what he said.
Yep.
I know.
I love the, do you see the video of the reporter?
Ask a woman, you know, oh, you know, who are you voting for?
And she's like, well, I don't have to tell you.
Well, who are you voting for?
And she, are you voting for Trump?
And the reporter's like, yep.
And she's like, well, you're a white supremacist then.
Oh, that's Caitlin Bennett. Oh, yeah. It was a great video. And she goes, all right, well, so are you voting for Trump? And the reporter's like, yep. And she's like, well, you're a white supremacist then. Oh, that's Caitlin Bennett. Oh, yeah. It was a great video. And she goes,
all right, well, so are you voting for Biden? Yeah. Oh, well, then you're a pedophile.
Well, so it's actually better. It was a good logical twist. So she's like, you're voting for
Trump. And Caitlin's like, yes. And she goes, well, then you're a white supremacist. And she
goes, how can you say that? What proof do you have? She goes, because you support Trump.
And then she goes, so you have no evidence?
She's like, it's not my job to do that for you.
And she goes, okay, are you voting for Biden?
Yes.
She goes, okay, then you're a pedophile.
And she goes, what?
That's not true.
And he's like, you like touching little girls.
Oh, man, that cracked me up, man, when I saw that.
That was so good.
Listen, man.
That's their logic.
That is the logic of the left. There's no logic of the left. That's my point. listen, man. That's their logic. That is the logic of the left.
There's no logic of the left.
That's my point.
Right.
Exactly.
So here's what moderates and traditional liberal people like me or whatever we're going to call it.
The average person who opposes this mentality, this ideology, doesn't understand they have no logical pathways.
Yep.
It's literally just like a like mashed potatoes
in their in their head yeah they they have duct taped together somehow a system that can pull an
electrical current but you can't map it you try to use socratic method you try to make these points
they don't get it well when you think about it the the human brain doesn't fully uh you know
complete you know complete growing until you're 24.
You know, it's still, so we have no idea really the effects of having an iPad in front of
you, altering your brain waves from, I mean, three-year-olds are on iPads.
They have a phone their entire life.
We know the, you know, the blue lights keep you awake.
Your brain thinks that it's still daytime, so you don't go to sleep the same it's like we have no idea so not only is it mashed potatoes but it's
it's not a brain that we're used to it's not we can't we can't compare ourselves we're we're like
a different breed of humans almost because we're we're we're part of computers they're they're we
are the new cyborgs they are the new ai almost you know cyborgs yeah We are the new AI. Cyborgs. They are the new AI almost. Cyborgs. Yeah, they
are the Borg. Their brains are developing
with this digital internet
technology. They are the Borg. Wow.
That's crazy, though. Do you know the story of the Borg?
They are. Are they not? That's pretty nuts
to think about. That's
what it feels like. I'm going to ask you guys
in the chat to correct me, but my general understanding
of the Borg and Star Trek was that they were a regular
civilization like humans that started integrating medical technology
that expanded to a point where it synchronized them and then created a hive mind over time i
think so that they used to be regular people and then over time i don't know i don't know if it
started with humans because they assimilated all sorts of different races over over time not humans
like the borg was a humanoid-like race.
Right, right, right.
Then became this, and then started assimilating all the other, you know, races.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
You guys know what the Borg is, right?
Oh, they know.
It's not too esoteric.
They're talking about it.
You will be assimilated.
You will be assimilated.
Resistance is futile.
Not if I can help it.
Right.
Resist.
Man, I love the Borg episodes.
I know.
They're good.
Some of the best Picard lines.
Yep.
Seven of Nine. Yeah, well, that's Deep Space Nine. No, no, Voyager. No, no, no. Some of the best Picard lines. Yep. Seven of nine.
Yeah, well, that's Deep Space Nine.
No, no, Voyager.
Voyager.
Oh, I messed up.
Oh, that's it.
You're fired.
I'm officially out.
Canceled.
There's always jokes we made about Trekkie fandom and who knows more than someone else.
So I will defer to you.
I clearly know more than you.
You nerd.
You can have that trophy.
Did you hear that, everybody? He admitted it. I'm going more than you. You nerd. You can have that trophy. Did you hear that, everybody?
He admitted it.
I'm going to take this W and run.
That's right. Go. Hold on. Hold on.
We've got to jump to this next bit.
What are we talking about now? So this is the
Harper's letter that was written.
And I want to give a shout out to
Bridget Phetasy, who tweeted
to everyone who signed this letter,
welcome to the alt-right. And I laughed
very much when I saw that excellent tweet, Bridget, because this is a letter on justice and open
debate, which basically says cancel culture bad, free speech good. And it was signed by 150 or so
people. And it includes a lot of people who are like lefties who have actually tried engaging in cancel culture.
It's kind of funny. Well, there may be the
realizing just how bad things are, but special
shout out to people like Nick Christakis,
Noam Chomsky.
Didn't Elon Musk say like F. Chomsky
or something? He sure did. He does not like Chomsky.
Well, I've heard some
of Chomsky's speeches
over the past couple days. I like Chomsky.
I've been looking into it and he defends free speech heartily.
And he also condemned the violence from Antifa.
Oh, okay.
I'm a fan.
He has some crazy ideas.
He certainly does.
I don't know enough about him, but all I know is that he has a few crazy ideas.
Yeah, same.
I'm still digging.
There's a video I posted from like the 70s or 80s or something where he said straight up,
I will legally defend a person whose views
I abhor if I'm defending their free speech.
That's how it should be.
And people were yelling at him for it.
I know.
Saying that basically by saying the speech is acceptable, it's a favorable view of their
speech.
And he's like, no.
Absolutely not.
The right to expression must be distinct from.
So mad props.
We also got, you know, Steven Pinker.
And he said something that stuck with me
he said you're on two sides you either agree with free speech as a whole or you only agree with
speech that you right you agree with there is no no difference or there's nothing else it's either
one or the other period you know you know it's like man he's got a good point there you know
he used to be like the left-wing pope? Really? I'm being very exaggerated, but people on the left held him up as like the dude.
They did, yeah.
And so when Antifa started doing all this violence, people emailed Chomsky.
And they said, how do you feel about this?
And he said, I'm going to try and get the quote, but I'm paraphrasing.
When we enter the arena of violence, the most brutal guy wins, and that is not us.
And he was right.
Case in point, the video of that proud boy winding up the shot, and then boom, and the guy goes flying.
You are not Antifa.
But the right is restrained and doesn't want to engage in violence.
So Antifa is just running amok, and the cops aren't doing anything about it.
So he's condemned Antifa's violence.
He said it's not a good idea.
He's defended free speech.
He's also got a bunch of really, you know, crazy far lefty ideas.
That's fine.
I don't care.
Like whatever your views are, however you want to live your life, as long as you're
not violating the rights of other people, as long as you're honest and truthful, respectful,
nonviolent, then you can be a communist.
So long as you, like, I will sit down and have an excellent debate with a communist.
As long as they don't agree that they can try and swing a punch at me because I don't agree with them.
Right.
Like Antifa, nah, they're out of the question.
But some commie wants to sit down and have a debate?
100%.
Let's have a debate.
You know what I mean?
I disagree.
I disagree.
But here's the best part.
Let's get to it.
Matthew Iglesias.
Oh, yes.
Matthew Iglesias is a co-founder of Vox.com, a progressive media outlet designed to explain
the news, which eventually just devolved into left-wing rage bait.
And while I want to say that Matthew is not the worst, he called Donald Trump a moderate,
and Vox is the snooty elitist of the far left not the extreme reeing of the far left yeah
i still think they're responsible for a lot of the stuff that's going on but something kind of
well i want not maybe not ironic but um what's the word i'm thinking of let's just say the
easiest way to explain it is you reap what you sow. Shard and ploy? Turns out.
No, I mean, kind of.
So this is a letter written by some, it's the critic at large, I believe, for Vox, Emily Vanderwerf, who, I'll just paraphrase, wrote a letter saying, I sent a version of this
to the editors of Vox.
I've redacted some bits that are internal to Vox and shouldn't be aired publicly.
Basically saying that it is a privileged position for
Matthew Iglesias to be signing this letter and talking about free speech because he doesn't
recognize how, you know, his privilege and it negatively impacts marginalized people.
Notably, that some of the people who have signed this have anti-trans opinions.
And by joining in with them, it empowers them and their positions,
and that puts them at risk. I see JK Rowling's name right there.
Oh, definitely. And that's probably one of the people that she was referring to.
Well, Matthew Iglesias was then, let me jump over here. Here we go. This is from
Noam Blum. He says, if you had any doubts that Iglesias was shut down by his bosses.
After signing this letter, this is from yesterday, Matthew Iglesias tweeted, I have committed to not doing contentious stuff on
Twitter anymore, so I seriously can't comment on this and would appreciate being taken out of the
thread. Hmm. He has committed to not doing this. To who and to why? Well, we then have this from
Ezra Klein. Ezra said a lot of debates that sell themselves as being about free speech are actually
about power. And there's a lot of power in being able to claim and hold the mantle of free speech
defender. Ezra Klein is another co-founder of Vox. Matthew Iglesias said, should I reply to this to
the concrete example or stick to my commitments to you? What have we learned from these tweets?
Somebody who works at Vox wrote a letter saying he was putting trans people at risk. That opens the door to discrimination lawsuits by someone who can say,
my boss signed a letter with transphobes and that proves he has a negative view.
And so everything he did against me was based on that discrimination. And that's the argument
they could try and make. Matthew Iglesias says he made a commitment to Ezra Klein.
And what was that commitment?
That he will not speak on contentious issues.
He's canceled.
Yep.
That's it.
Goodbye.
He signed a letter to defend cancel culture.
Someone at his company sent a letter in that was properly worded and not overly threatening.
And now he has had a conversation with Ezra where
he cannot comment anymore. And here's the best part. Ezra Klein's comment about debates on free
speech is specifically targeting Matthew Iglesias. What have we learned? Matthew, as the co-founder
of Vox, you are no longer allowed to address your fellow co-founders and co-workers when they insult, mock, or criticize
you. And that's the world you've built. Yep. So I have to ask. So a lot of times I talk about how
the left is really projecting when they say that the right is doing something wrong. I think this
is a classic example of them projecting, we're going to cancel you. We're going to talk to your
boss because this is exactly what has just happened to matthew and i
think that's what he's afraid of and i think that's what people like him have tried to do in
the past we're going to get you canceled you're fired you can't speak he has done this i think
that people on the left not yeah not as far as i know but i think it's just production projection
just classic projection yep that's what i came up with that i i mentioned this the other day that
guy who was saying to me you're first against the wall i'm gonna i'm gonna call your i'm gonna call those
who employ you yes i love it you should give them your number somebody somebody tweeted this out i
don't know who it was but it was a really good point and they said we need cancel culture herd
immunity which means we need more people to be canceled yep there have been people i could see
it but i mean i don't know it's
ridiculous what do you mean well yeah you know the argument that if if everyone gets canceled
no one is if only if only 50 of people are canceled and cancel culture stops working
okay so that's that's the idea herd immunity yeah so eventually so so here's the hope to be less pessimistic.
I think the win network is very promising.
It is a decentralized network of Reddit forums that have no boss.
Yep.
No one person who can just ban you.
That's amazing.
Yes, it is. Locals is another version of this from Dave Rubin's project.
Dave can't ban anybody.
Decentralized, yeah.
I was going to start streaming games on Twitch, but
I'm not going anywhere close to Twitch.
No way. No way I'm not touching
that. The Fediverse is a
really interesting concept that
just hasn't gained traction. What's that?
It is a protocol,
kind of like...
What's the easiest way to explain it?
It would be like if you gave people
your Mathodon address
and then it's subscribing to your newsletter so it's a twitter that's decentralized and there
are different servers so uh mastodon was was i think is the biggest but it's very far left they
ban everything okay they banned will wheaton that was funny and will wheaton was like an sjw
that's how that's how crazy far left there Gab, for instance, is on the Fediverse, meaning that if I create
my own server, TimCast.com, then I would say, follow me. My handle is Tim at TimCast.com.
And then you would follow me and then you would see whatever I post. But no one could ban me
because you're basically just going to my website.
So what it basically does is
it creates a Twitter feed,
but each person's tweet or post
comes from their own site.
Different servers.
That once it's delivered to you,
so nobody can ban you.
If you're on a node like Gab,
Gab could say we're banning Mastodon.
But, you know, Gab wouldn't do that.
However, Mastodon did ban Gab.
They're like, if you're on our node, you will not see anyone from Gab
no dice. Yeah, you can't do it.
So it's actually also a
really, really good idea, because then
instead of me saying, you know, follow me
on Twitter, I'd say
my handle is
at Timcast, and then it doesn't matter what you use.
You get it.
That, I think, is a path forward that will really save us from the mind, you know, brainwashing,
indoctrination.
I love it.
These are the kind of conversations I like having.
Moving forward.
But I think, you know why I think 230 reform
is the magic bullet?
Hmm.
If the Republicans sweep,
and this is why it is,
and I can't believe
I would ever say something
like this,
so important that they do.
I am willing to concede
at this point
with how crazy
everything's gotten.
This is,
the Democrats
have made me desperate.
And now maybe
I am turning to people
I don't quite understand.
You know. They don't think it's crazy.
So, uh, no, we talked about this though.
The Republican party hasn't varied very often.
They actually moved a little bit to the left.
Yeah, right.
They moved quite far as far as traditional Republicans.
If this stops, I'll give you the best example.
The Democrats just voted to repeal civil rights law.
Yeah, that's great.
That, that is, that was like being punched in the gut by the left.
That's insane.
I can't believe that.
That has to stop now.
Absolutely.
And that means if I have to go to the Republican Party, that means I have to do it.
So we'll see how things play out with Trump.
That's a different story.
But very likely, I don't know what's going to happen with congressional votes or whatever in November.
So we'll see how that plays out.
But if the Republicans win and the first thing they do is just jam Section 230 reform in,
you know what's going to happen?
Right now there's a big boycott against Facebook.
They're trying to get Facebook to bend the knee and ban more hate speech.
And Facebook is slowly giving what they want,
but no matter what Facebook does, they say more, more, more.
What would happen if a law was passed?
You cannot ban legal speech.
Then the advertisers would go to Zuckerberg and say,
we demand all the far-left nonprofits.
Every email they could send would fall on deaf ears
when Mark Zuckerberg would simply reply all, that would be illegal.
Yeah, that would be easy.
And they would say, well, then we don't want to advertise with you.
I'm so sorry.
It's the law.
Yeah.
If you want your advertisements on this platform, you recognize that we can't control the speech.
That's federal law.
Boom.
It is the easiest out.
It will bolster the profits of Google, Facebook, Twitter, and all these companies.
It will give them the easiest excuse.
We want to help you.
We're so angry at Trump.
Oh, no.
But unfortunately, that's the law.
We have to allow these opinions.
Yeah.
And I'm talking about evil people saying evil things.
One of the tricks the far left likes to do is saying, see, they want death threats on
their platform.
No, that's bad.
That's illegal.
You post a death threat. They can go delete. That was a crime. Yep. If they have a
good faith belief that what you posted was illegal, they can remove it. Now there will be overstep.
There will be appeals. Sure. And I think it's, it's Will Chamberlain of human events whose,
whose proposal is that access to social media should be considered a human right.
And that if you get banned, you can immediately go to court and get an injunction filed to restore all of your access if if this
reform happens then immediately you will see a real conversation all of the silent majority will
not be scared to speak up anymore well not all of them but a lot of them you won't get banned
you can say whatever you want we need that back we need thick skin we need a 230 reform yeah we need to save i mean to bring even a few step back like
comedy is dying comedy is dying think about carlin was like the last vestige of just saying whatever
he wanted think about not care if you were able to go on Twitter and make all of the jokes from South Park and Family Guy without getting banned, right now you can't.
230 reform is maybe not the most important thing.
I don't know, but I think it's extremely important because it would reverse the flow of the cultural stream.
Yeah.
John Cleese said something really interesting about this.
I don't remember all of it.
Man, there's a lot.
But it started with if people can't control their emotions,
they switch it to try to control other people's behavior.
And there's a lot more to that.
But it's about having thick skin.
It's about confronting yourself.
This will bring it back.
I agree.
I love it.
Imagine if you go on Facebook.
It's an amazing idea.
And it's nothing but grow a pair, you whiny baby.
Cry, keep crying.
And you're like, you can't say mean things to me.
That's illegal.
Sorry, it's not.
It's legal.
Think about all of...
You have to grow thick skin.
Listen, listen.
People don't realize the degree to which...
Stop caring what other people think.
That is number one.
Don't care what other people think.
Why do you care so much? Work on other people think. That is number one. Don't care what other people think. Why is that?
Why do you care so much?
Work on your own life.
You'll get banned.
If you work on your own life?
If you...
Because I just said that to them right now, I'm going to get banned?
If you ignore what other people think, you get banned.
Oh, I don't ignore it.
I'm watching.
See, see...
I'm learning.
I'm seeing what it is, but it's not going to change how I feel.
You can't say what Don Lemon said in 2013.
The degree to which we have already been socially engineered on a mass scale is unrecognized.
So how do we talk about it right now?
How do we even bring it up?
I don't know.
How can we discuss it right now?
Because I think it needs to be said.
He was an embarrassment cutting Terry Crews off like he did.
When Terry Crews was essentially saying very
much in tune with what he said.
No, no, no, no, no. Terry Cruz didn't go that far.
No, you're right. He didn't even go that far.
You're absolutely right. He didn't even go that
far. Don Lemon. That's right.
Went on what I could only describe as
a racist white supremacist tirade
by today's standards.
Yeah, I guess so.
The things he was saying about the black
community if it was uttered today by us or anybody would be an instant permaban and yet
thomas swalwell says very much a lot of the same stuff yep he's talking about it and he's he's
amazing i i think he's one of the man the best best geniuses that we have in America right now.
Let me just put it this way. What Don Lemon said comes... Listen, I'll do this.
Stefan Molyneux was just banned from YouTube and Twitter. And I'd be willing to make a bet.
To be fair, I don't watch and I'm not super familiar with Stefan Molyneux's content,
but I'd be willing to bet the thing Stefan Molyneux said probably came from Don Lemon.
Yeah.
Talking about race and their behaviors and their choices and what that results in.
Simply throwing trash on the ground.
I mean, Don Lemon said things.
When he said that, I was like, wow, because I lived in cities, and that is absolutely true.
They don't care.
They toss trash right on the ground.
Personal responsibility. I'm not talking race. They toss trash right on the ground. Personal responsibility.
And I'm not talking race.
I'm talking everybody in a city.
And that's why I'm saying Don Lemon went on what I would call a racist tirade.
You're absolutely right.
I'll give you one example.
That's true, because he was targeting them specifically.
That's true.
Don Lemon accused the black community of specific things that are not unique to the black community
that exist for all races.
That's true.
I agree.
I can vouch.
Living in the city, I've seen it from all races. It's true. I agree. I can vouch. Living in the city,
I've seen it from all races.
It's not, it wasn't just...
In 2013.
In 2013, yeah.
So I bring this up just to point out
the degree to which we have already been
socially engineered in a mass scale,
we don't even realize it.
But you go back to this article from,
it's from, I think I have it from CNN,
going back to 2013,
and the things that Don Lemon was saying about clothing, about fathers, from, it's from, I think I have it from CNN, going back to 2013.
And the things that Don Lemon was saying about clothing,
about fathers,
it's from Real Clear Politics
in 2013.
It was from his show. It's from his show
where he said, Bill O'Reilly doesn't
go far enough.
Bill O'Reilly.
And you know what? He does it
twice, too. He quotes Bill O'Reilly. And you know what? He does it twice, too.
He quotes Bill O'Reilly, and then he goes,
you know what?
He's right.
But you know what?
And he says more.
Listen to this.
And then he goes, Bill O'Reilly says some more stuff,
digging in a little further.
And then he goes, you know what?
He's right.
But he still didn't go enough. He still didn't go to say enough that he should have said.
And then he goes, there's a list of five things he says.
There's five things you need to do.
This Don Lemon video and with Terry Crews is important for a couple reasons.
It shows the degree to which mainstream society has been radicalized.
Yes.
And it gives you a glimpse of what we can no longer discuss.
Correct.
If Don Lemon was willing to say that Bill O'Reilly
didn't go far enough in 2013 and today he would argue with Terry Crews when Terry Crews just says
we're all equal. Right. The reality is people like to say, you know, like Tim got red pilled or
whatever. That's not true. Tim Pool is exactly where Tim Pool has been. That's true. When I
worked for Vice. Right on the fence. I worked, listen, true when i worked for right on the fence we i i worked
listen listen i worked for vice did you have any idea what vice was doing you know in the early
2010s yeah like it was gross it was it was edgy stuff that's right when i met you it was edgy
stuff man and today it's all woke feminism that's true so i was talking to some people from Vice and they said to me, we realized it wasn't, you know, specific people who changed because there's specific people at Vice who are accused of being right wing and far right years later.
And they said, we realized it wasn't them who changed.
It was us.
We realized that certain things weren't acceptable anymore.
And I said, let me stop you right there.
I was like, do you realize what you're saying? You're saying that from the perspective of regular people that you were
friends with that created this company and worked with you and helped you grow it and everything,
they stayed where they were doing what was completely acceptable. You changed your behaviors.
Boom. So when you say they are far right, you realize they're not right.
You just kept walking further and further left. That means you are far right. You realize they're not right. You just kept walking further and further left.
That means you are far left.
That's correct.
If these people weren't far right to begin with, they aren't today.
Yep.
So when I worked for Fusion, I had the same opinions.
We were doing a weak version of this show.
What is that?
I don't know.
Street Sweeper?
We were doing the first iteration of this podcast, a couple episodes in 2014.
Oh, that's right.
I forgot about that.
We did.
I did a video about why I thought it was wrong that there was segregated graduation ceremonies being proposed at Harvard.
Yeah.
I did a video about Kesha and the accusations that were challenged.
Yeah, I remember that.
My stance on false allegations and free speech and all that stuff is exactly where it's always been i've always been a moderate
you know aside from when i was younger but i mean like in my my more recent career a moderate left
leaning liberal working for fusion working for vice they got radicalized as evidenced very easily
by don lemon saying bill o'reilly doesn't go far enough on CNN.
Yeah.
2013.
So that was from 2013.
So I posted something on Twitter that I noticed, and it was not from 2013.
It was from 2017.
And it was the story of Monroe Bergdorf, who got fired from their job at Revlon for saying
some really stridently racist stuff that BLM is saying now because
Revlon just hired them back because it's no longer inappropriate to say those things that BLM is
saying can you hint at what the conversation was about I don't know if you're allowed to say it
because it's YouTube yeah so Monroe just got on and was saying stuff like you know the white man
is holding me down and everything and everything's you know internalized racism and just you know
normal stuff now look at Colin Kaepernick yeah yeah was it three years ago signed
a big huge deal with disney that has been a dramatic radicalization oh yeah fast so i'm in
the same spot i've always been i'm chilling you know doing my thing and i think the important
factor is what causes someone to be radicalized is their friends being radicalized
so i wondered why it is that there's like one friend of mine i've known for years who has gone
surprisingly marxist which is weird like i'm not kidding like posting anti-capitalist stuff i'm
like we talking about you're like a wealthy like actor in hollywood what are you doing i forget
what what clothing company some some clothing company maybe i don't remember what it was but they
armani maybe i don't know they posted something about you know capitalism like if it wasn't for
capitalism in world war ii like you know america wouldn't be selling weapons and i was like you
know we won the war right you know because we joined the war we helped defeat germany in that
war they would have won yeah it was just like the uk being are
you forgetting that part of it because capitalism actually won us the war basically if you want to
put it that way yeah we'll we'll put it that way like okay i started wondering how it is this friend
of mine is posting marxist memes okay right and then i started seeing who they were liking and
who they were uh promoting in their posts and i was like interesting hmm memes marxist far leftist memes and so then i thought about it and i'm like
you know i don't do anything but work so i don't i don't go up to random people like i don't hang
out with people and then share ideas like that. I've always done my thing reading the news in my
isolated, you know, semi isolated kind of way where I sit down, I read the news for the past
decade. So I follow similar people. I've seen them get radicalized. I follow similar news outlets.
I've seen them get radicalized. And these people don't realize it because if they say that we are
the summation of the five people who surround us. But if the five people who surround you are
slowly being radicalized and then you slowly start agreeing with them not realizing
you're moving further and further left 10 years later you'll look to your right and you'll see
me far away and go wow tim became so far right and it's like bro i've been standing in the same spot
i haven't moved there's grooves i'm living in this van right by the river here this is the river
hasn't moved either i am so there i am sitting on a here. That's right where I've been. The river hasn't moved either. It's still there.
I am sitting on a couch with butt grooves in it.
I've been sitting here.
I haven't moved, man.
I follow a lot of the exact same people I always did.
Please don't talk about your butt grooves, man.
Come on.
I follow a lot of the same people I always have.
And it's funny when I see them post.
And the hacker community is the best example.
In my opinion, these people are the lowest of the low.
In the early 2010s, I was hanging out at hackerspaces, friends of a lot of high profile-ish hackers and professors. These
people were all about fighting authoritarianism, defending the right to free expression and free
speech. Now, where are they? Completely in opposition to it. Fully on board with social
justice authoritarianism. My favorite is that there was a guy during Occupy Wall Street
who approached me and wanted to, you know,
he's like, I want you to get involved with all these things we're doing.
Yeah.
And he worked with a nonprofit called Free Press.
Today, Free Press advocates for censorship.
They're one of the organizations trying to boycott Facebook
and demanding censorship.
That's crazy.
How do we get to a point where you don't realize that if you named your organization Free Press
and then something happened where today you are pro-censorship and that's one of your core missions,
you realize you've been zombified or you've been turned.
The bad guys got you.
Well, Don lemon is definitely a
a different version of himself from what i saw oh yeah if he was that 2013 don lemon i'd watch
you know i'd love to see i'd be like wow this guy he's he's standing up he's saying some bold
things donald trump wouldn't even say what he said no donald trump would not say what don lemon said
don lemon made a lot of points about the
behaviors of young black men and black culture and things that are not unique to black culture
some of some of them could be argued maybe but not all of them some of them could be argued
that what he was addressing affects everybody actually but they could make a change right
right the the race part of it is is what
he added to it exactly but it's more of a culture thing i think as if you if you take a step back
and look look at it it's not talking up talking about families and kids the way he did yeah was
like wow that was that was right out of like tell me more about how terry cruz was wrong don lemon
but like the things he was saying,
you would get that stuff from alt-right YouTube videos.
It's true.
And Don Lemon was saying it first.
That's absolutely true.
So the radicalization is the left.
It's crazy.
If you haven't seen this video,
we can't play it for you.
We can't read the words,
but it's pretty bold.
And it is not the Don Lemon that I've been seeing lately.
I don't want to pretend like it's the worst thing in the world,
like he was spouting out racial slurs.
No, no, no, it's not.
But it's Don Lemon going on what I would describe by today's standards
as a racist rant.
And really what it is is him saying, you know,
it's not systemic racism.
You need to step up and look at yourself.
That's essentially, like, if I could narrow down what he said,
that's essentially what he said.
One of the things we can highlight is that he he blames the black community for littering
which is absolutely not unique to any race no and that's and that's people not caring anymore
well it's big cities I see it a lot right but that's why I I would say that but by today's
standard but he specifically said I lived in a white neighborhood and I didn't see anyone
throwing trash on the ground and then he specifically said I live in a white neighborhood and I didn't see anyone throwing trash on the ground. And then he specifically
said, I live in Harlem
now and now I see it everywhere.
And it's like, ooh.
There's so much wrong with that. You went there, Don.
You went there, man. You know what he's actually saying?
What? That he lived in a rich neighborhood.
Boom. And he doesn't understand the difference.
Yeah, that's a good point.
And he blames their race
for it. Don Lemon is a racist i am i am
appalled by this video now now hold on i want to make sure i'm clear i don't think what he said
is the worst thing in the world i do think it's it's it's got racial uh he didn't need to go right
like he didn't bring it it doesn't need to bring to bring race into it yeah but i do believe that if we actually read what he said, we would be flipping a coin on whether or not YouTube would give us a strike and delete this video.
They might allow us to talk about it on the grounds that it's newsworthy.
But if we just repeated what he said, like the points made by Don Lemon, oh, that's a strike.
Hands down.
Boom.
Hands down.
Hands down.
Like what you mentioned where he says, you know, now that I live in a white neighborhood, I'll
tell you all the things they did.
And it's like, you are a multimillionaire who moved to an upper class neighborhood.
Yeah, you're not, you aren't in that class anymore.
You can't, you're speaking for people that you don't understand anymore.
That's what I'm saying.
He didn't move to the poor white suburbs of you know south
chicago south southwest suburbs of chicago right exactly where where there was there's a there's a
suburb of chicago called summit we call it scum it oh yeah and it's and it's mostly white uh lower
income and i know people who lived there and there is a lot of drugs and it is not
don lemon you want to talk about litter you want to talk about litter? You want to talk about
community? You need to understand what poverty
is. And that's why I think what he did
was overtly racist. Because he
ignores the issues of class
and blames the race for
what... I can't repeat it, man.
We're getting... We're crop-dusting on
the danger. You took the banis.
Yeah, yeah. I feel like I...
You didn't even want to do the story. You were kind of like meh, it's a little... And I'm like, know. Yeah, yeah. I feel like I, you didn't even want
to do this story.
You were kind of like,
man, it's a little,
and I'm like, no, no, no.
We got to talk about this.
Well, we can talk.
It wasn't that.
I was like,
you realize if we say
what he said,
YouTube will delete the stream.
Yeah, we can't say.
Well, I think this is important.
And you know what?
What happens next
is really important too.
You know,
seeing what happens.
What is CNN going to do?
Because this just just this just popped
up today like i saw this floating around today someone someone tagged me in it and and you know
who you are appreciate you for for tagging me in this and uh and and it's crazy and i will see
because cnn cancel culture like what are they gonna do don lemon's one of their their head
figures right now you know yeah here's if you want to find the video because again i i don't believe it isn't that bad. The people are saying it isn't racist. Trust me, man.
I'm telling you what he said is YouTube bannable. Search for Don Lemon. Bill O'Reilly doesn't go
far enough. And you can watch what he said. Yeah. And there's a lot of people who defend what he
said. But I think the point I'm making is not that I'm agreeing or disagreeing or getting in any part of that argument. I'm telling you that based on what he said, if you say that today, if you record that video and put it on Twitter, Twitter will ban you.
I mean, hands down, there are people out there that are saying that.
I said Thomas Sowell is saying it.
Larry Elder is out there saying this stuff, too.
There's there's there's some prominent figures out there.
But probably going to get banned.
No, no, no.
The prominent figures tend to get more leeway.
Okay.
So during the learn to code fiasco,
I tweeted it a bunch of times.
Oh, yeah.
And it never got suspended.
Of course it did.
Okay.
Because I'd be willing to bet
YouTube has a coding system for profiles
that are internal
for whether or not someone's a journalist
or whether or not someone's a celebrity or sports.
Okay.
And I'm making that guess based on the fact that Twitter will do anything for journalists.
Because it's the largest and most active user base.
Am I a journalist now?
I don't know.
Technically.
You might get verified.
I don't know what I am, honestly.
I'm on IMDb.
Oh, cultural commentator.
Cultural commentator.
Someone was like, you're on IMDb.
I was like, oh, I'm on imdb it's
timcast yeah but people don't take this away from me tim uh that that was it i got nothing
you got the you got stage adam i think we got it out though i mean people need to just look at look
at see it for themselves you know go go watch it I would make the point before we go that Thomas Sowell and Larry Elder are very, very careful to say things like this is a class issue.
It's not necessarily a race issue.
They're very precise in their language.
Yeah.
Jordan Peterson would be very proud.
And they use a lot of facts.
Right.
They back up every single thing that they say with with facts and history of and of
the way that we where how we got here and and how how much we've done to get here right which people
like to just ignore well let me wrap up that whole conversation sure the point is when 230 reform
happens overnight that conversation that don lemon had will come back like a dam breaking, a flood sweeping across the valley.
Yep.
People will start bringing these things up.
They'll start talking about family.
They'll start talking about the importance of free speech and culture, education.
Yep, you're right.
All of these conversations will come back, and you don't even realize they're gone.
Oh, I can't wait to have conversations again.
Honestly, that's actually my job now.
Someone brought a real person.
I'm getting paid to have conversations.
It's great.
But I want it to be okay.
I want it to be politically correct to have a conversation.
When I went on the Rogan podcast with Dorsey, a lot of people made a really good point.
They said, why are four liberals in a room talking about what conservatives think?
And I said, that's a great point.
Joe should have a liberal and a conservative or two conservatives to come in and talk about these issues.
Actually, it would be great if Will Chamberlain, who is a lawyer and he runs human events, gave his perspective along with maybe like a higher profile Ben Shapiro or something on their view on just the general culture around censorship with a legal perspective.
Because typically these arguments have been right now the Internet is all liberals.
Like conservatives exist and there's a reason why they're all going to parlor because they are walking on the razor's edge. I'm a moderate liberal politically, and there is a,
what I described as kind of like a temporary alliance between liberals and conservatives,
real liberals, because we agree on most things. Classic liberal. No, no, no, no. Like traditional
or social liberal. Like the liberals of the 90s and the 2000s are classical liberal is a right
wing position it's it's center right oh social liberals are center left center left and the
right liberal can mean anything now it is well yeah right now people use it to just mean leftist
which is not true so what i mean to say is of the 90s and 2000s and even the 2010s, social liberalism was like the default for the Democratic Party.
It's very similar to liberalism, but it has a slant towards social programs and civil rights
issues. I would consider myself a social liberal in that I want the 1964 Civil Rights Act in place.
I want equality under the law and all that stuff. Classical liberals are more like free market, less government intervention, but very similar in that regard.
There is an alliance now between conservatives, traditional conservatives, diehard conservatives, and social liberals, the intellectual dark web, the politically homeless, because of the illiberalism of the far left.
So we will see these conversations emerge.
And if this happens,
we got to read super chats.
I hope so.
You hope we do.
Yeah.
I'm going to start off.
I just saw Lauren one,
just sent a huge super chat.
A big one.
Didn't say a word.
Oh,
thank you.
Didn't say a word.
So thank you.
Thank you very much.
Well, we got a huge super chat here from Logan Porter.
He says,
no hate,
Tim.
I can't watch you anymore. Your defeatism and pessimism is getting to me i'm going crazy watching you and i choose
right now to wash my hands of you i'll vote how i vote i'll protect myself and i won't just roll
over and die take care of yourselves what about me i respect the criticism you and i will comfort
him stay for me i will do better yeah yeah yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Adam's still here. He's arguing with me, right?
Every chance I get. All right. Let's see what we got here. Commander two, two, two, three,
two says, Hey, Tim, I have said this before, uh, before us in FPS in North Dakota will be
damned. If we secede our nation to these domestic terrorists, don't give in and give up.
There are more people in the central U SS. that will go down fighting than you know. We are just setting up our pieces.
I think the challenge, though, is... Or they're busy working.
Or they're... Well, that's why I think...
They want to be upright standing citizens that do things through under the law instead of going
out and being violent. This is not the way that most people are.
This is why Election Day should be a holiday.
I absolutely agree with you 100%.
And I think conservatives should be leading that charge.
Let me get my little pistol.
It's way too far for me.
I'm going to spin the UFO for that.
Conservatives should be leading the charge
on Election Day being a holiday
because they're the ones who tend to have the jobs, right?
Yeah, they work.
It's the people who aren't working
who can freely go out and vote when they feel like it.
If it was a holiday, then more conservatives could vote.
Make it a holiday. Make it a paid holiday.
Right. Yep.
Alright, let's see what we got here.
Akepot says, it's not too late.
I think this often and tend to be
pessimistic these days. However,
I'm reminded that while Trump won't stop this,
he buys us time. We can't roll
over. We need to fight to wake others up.
It's happening in the 11th hour.
Don't quit.
Hear, hear.
I hear you.
I certainly won't.
I will not either.
It's good to hear, Tim.
I only entertain the idea of, at some point, getting in the van down by the river.
No, but we're expanding, mind you.
So for the people who, you know, I won't be as pessimistic, but I will point out we're
expanding. We're doing more. Oh, yeah, more oh yeah we're bringing on more people excited we're
gonna build an indoor shooting range yep think about how crazy that is six months ago i'm like
no guns in my house now it's like let's build a shooting range let's buy all the guns i'm very
excited about it we should do we should do a couple episodes down by the river just for kicks
it is so cool i'm so excited for this i just can't wait to look it's gonna take a couple months but
we are in the process it It'll be worth it.
We're going to have an archery range.
Shooting range, archery range, same difference.
Yeah. It's going to be good, though.
Lots of guns. Exiled Devil says,
You hate the Confederacy. Riddle me this.
One part of the country demands the others
adhere to them. The other refuses and forms
a rebel army to fight back against them. Sound
familiar? Are we the new Confederacy?
Will we be called traitors? If you lose. And the issue, however, is that this goes back to the
conversation I've brought up where people are like, you know, they've said to me that if I was
alive during the civil rights era, I would have been one of the moderates being like, everyone
needs to calm down and just accept it. And I'm like, that's not true. My family history is rooted
in the civil rights era and everything. It's literally intrinsic to what I am. You are a minority. Right. That's not true. My family history is rooted in the civil rights era and everything. It's literally intrinsic to what I am.
You are a minority.
Right.
That's true.
The smallest minority in the country.
Yeah.
So first of all, history is written by the victors.
However, the Confederates were illiberal.
The North was, at least as it pertained to slavery.
Mm-hmm. was, at least as it pertained to slavery. So you had the bloodiest battle,
I believe it was in the history of battles, right, of wars.
And it was people saying literally owning people
is a violation of the Constitution,
of the Declaration of Independence,
and it must be ended.
Immoral, yeah.
Yeah.
So you can't have a government that says
of, by, and for the people, except those people. And that's why we've been able to develop all these civiloral. Yeah. So you can't have a government that says of, by, and for the people
except those people. And that's why we've been
able to develop all these civil rights.
Freedom wins. Not
the left. Freedom.
I think it was Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks
who said, the left always
wins. You're on the wrong side of history.
He's wrong. He is wrong.
It is freedom that wins.
And so if you fight for
freedom they may demonize you and they'll lie about you and they'll call you a nazi yeah bring
it they'll call you confederate they'll call you all the worst names in the book i don't care stand
up for what you believe in don't don't give i won't let someone else tell me who i am
they will tell others unless it was the chat calling me soy jesus because i kind of let them
i let that happen i mean yeah i mean i
had no choice but it's good handle what are you gonna do all right what what does sun bay mean
praise the sun gareth green says pool sun bay crickler sun bay please read thomas sowell's
basic economics it changed my life we have specifically Do we? Nice. It showed me that most of the world's ills are due to
price controls. Really?
I believe so.
The more I look into everything, the more
it's everything.
It's not any one
thing. You can't put any blame on any
one thing. That's just not possible.
Life is
so complex.
I've watched a long interview with him today
and that's really where this specifically is spawning from
he is very knowledgeable about a lot of stuff
about where we are, how we got here, and what is
the real turnings of society
he's enlightening, I'm going to really dig into that, man.
That's what they don't like.
They don't like the enlightenment.
They don't like free inquiry, free thought.
They're not going to stop me.
Hassam says, your thoughts on this quote,
the issue is never the issue.
The issue is the revolution.
Saul Alinsky rules for radicals.
My thoughts on that is that the left is not,
doesn't care about any of these causes.
The ends justify the means
and what they're fighting for is a faith.
The revolution is meaningless.
It is a buzzword.
They just want it by any means necessary.
Yep.
They don't know what it means afterwards.
They don't know what they get.
They don't care.
It's faith.
It's better.
It's Elysium.
It's Valhalla.
It's 72 virgins.
Yeah.
That's all it is.
Interesting.
It's smashing the like button. Yeah. It's smash the like button. That's right.alla. It's 72 virgins. Yeah. That's all it is. Interesting. It's smashing the like button.
Yeah.
It's smash the like button.
That's right.
Yeah.
Thank you.
These people, could you imagine hordes of people going out, just going like, ah, ah,
ah.
I'm smashing the like button.
You got to smash it.
Yeah.
Thank you.
There you go.
Smash it correctly.
Hold on.
Hold on.
If you're going to smash my button, all right, you better smash it correctly if you're gonna smash my button alright you better smash it right can we create like
the revolution of the like button
and get the
the zealotry
of the far left
but just for liking our videos
like going to every video
and just like
liking all of them
for just
that's what they're all about
that's the mission
smash all of the like buttons
that will get you to heaven
it's like the opposite of
cancel everything
yes
how do we
how do we convince how do we convince how
do we convince the far left the true way to win the revolution is to smash that like button
they all show up hundreds of thousands of people are all liking like
hey man there there's some leftist podcasts that make a lot of money really oh yeah i don't okay
this one's for uh this one's inadvertently for lydia landon says thoughts on stoicism and
virtue ethics as a solution to vapidity and degradation giving up on the cultural revolution
that is the heavy heavy topic i will tweet about that how about that you don't have any thoughts
on it now well so i think that if you look at stoicism as a solution it it really comes down
to responsibility to yourself and you're only controlling what you can control.
So the entire problem that I think that the left wing has right now is trying to control everything except themselves.
So stoicism turns us on its head.
For me, it's valuable because it tells me that
the only thing I can control is myself,
which is great because I'm a little bit emotional at times.
So if you get that under control and realize that you can,
it's great. It's very empowering.
So I think that if they did that, the whole world would be a lot better off so that's my two cents
basically the whole left is the least stoic yes very yeah they can't control themselves
they hate stoicism i hate it very masculine didn't we talk about this yeah on the show yeah like how
they actually hate stoicism during emotional intelligence when we talked about that there
was a good episode there was something we were reading where it was like, who said this?
That if, you know, when you get into a car
accident, the man is... That was Sean Smith.
That was Sean Smith, that's right. Yeah, we had him on.
I knew it, I knew it. Yeah, that was a good episode.
Could you imagine? They want
to get rid of masculinity. So
a man and a woman and their kids get into a car accident
and they both just start crying.
Yeah, then who's going to fix the tire? Nobody.
That one? You know, I guess they both do it together. They can't take it from me. I know's gonna fix the tire i mean nobody you know i guess they
both do it together they can't take it from me and i'm i'm gonna i know how to fix the tire i know
how to do all that actually actually hold on they get into a car accident but the traditional
traditional family structure is dissolved so we're looking at this from the wrong way wrong way if it
was a family that didn't believe in masculine or stoicism, it would be like three
theymans, one transmasculine, you know, femme, and a couple non-binary kids.
Babies, yes.
And they would just have to assign who does what, and they would all do teamwork, I guess?
I don't know if I can understand their logic because they don't have.
Yes.
Thank you.
We'll just go with that.
You're not allowed.
Nothing would work.
It all fall apart.
Someone said not smashing the like button is racist.
That's right.
It's a minority run company.
You feel free to smash the dislike button if you want.
But I prefer you smashing the like button.
Say Donald Trump likes the like button.
Oh, yeah.
Smash it.
Gareth Green says, Sunbae is the Korean equivalent of Japanese senpai.
Oh, really?
It's funny that I don't...
It's a term suffix that refers to older brothers or upper classmates.
Oh, I like that.
I should know stuff like that.
You should.
I only know bad words I can't say on YouTube.
Okay. Well, you should know
this. It's actually funny. Once I met
a dude who was like a white dude who grew up in
Chicago who was fluent in Korean. Really?
And like... Did he come at you with that
Korean? Yeah.
And I was like, I don't know.
I got nothing. My mom grew up
in America. You said a few bad words.
Like, I'm not Korean enough, I guess.
Here we go.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Gareth says, sadly, Lincoln and the original Republicans took the country in a more centralized direction.
Because they saw the United States as a unitary nation, we have never recovered.
You know, I was reading about this, and it really does seem like you could argue historically the
civil war never ended yeah we were talking about that the other day i was looking at some
congressional districts that before the civil war had a variety of political parties and then just
before the civil war it became two-party the two parties fighting over the ideology and then
because it was so severe everyone teamed up and factions. And it's still that way to this day.
Yeah.
We should dive into that much further in a second tomorrow.
So one of the goals with the new space is to get more space for more guests.
I can't wait to have guests.
Way bigger space.
We will have guests eventually.
Yes.
I'm very excited.
That was the original plan of the show.
We had a few guests.
But maybe like two or three even.
That'd be so fun.
Because we're going to have a bigger space.
Right. Have wonderful discussions.
I love this. We're going to have a table that could
cater to like five or six people at once.
And so it'd be great to have actually
some Civil War historians.
You know what I would love to do? A Civil War
expert and a national security, global
national security expert. And have
them like, because then the Civil War
guy is going to be like, here's what we saw in terms of the 1800s which led to this and the natsec guy's going to
be like that's really interesting because in you know south philly when we saw this that's a
parallel to and then you might you know that kind of reminds me i wanted to bring up uh tom mcdonald
when we were talking about the don lemon terry crews thing because a lot of his music that I'm listening to is very cultural and
also calling out culture in a sense.
That dude's amazing.
I feel like he's on the same page as us.
I would love to have you on a guest if you're listening, Tom.
Man, you are boss.
But seriously, his message, though, he's calling out the culture of not necessarily, I don't
want to make it a race thing.
It's a culture issue of, you know, like rappers glorifying specific things and glorifying violence and glorifying, you know, having guns and living that lifestyle, which leads to a lot of things that are negative in someone's life.
You know, and he's calling a lot of this stuff out.
And people are hating on him.
And he doesn't care.
It's spawning even better music from him.
It's great.
It's like this wonderful cycle that he's just living it.
And it's awesome.
If you don't know Tom McDonald, you can check him out on YouTube.
The coronavirus song was amazing.
I'm not being paid to say this.
I truly believe he's got some incredible music.
I grew up in Chicago.
It's got a lot of underground hip-hop music.
And he's a really good, talented artist.
And you should check him out.
He's got a really good message.
All right, we got this from Carl's Jr.
Post office is in Constitution because government provided communications.
Can't be censored.
Needs to be extended to Internet. I never understood my post office was in the constitution until seeing
silicon valley interesting khalim says i'm in college right now studying animation i want to
create my own animation industry with cities falling apart right now what would be a good
place to build it love your show spin the ufo i will renovo penn Oh, yeah. I think it's pronounced Renovo.
I say Renovo, but there are many towns that are dying.
The population is leaving.
There's no jobs.
And they're small towns that once existed for a reason.
Now they have. Their reason is gone.
Their reason is gone.
Yeah.
Factories are closing.
The railroad track, the trains don't come through anymore.
And so I looked at a bunch of small towns.
And I was talking to some other people
of uh like you know prominent political personalities and commentators and comedians
i'm like if you've got the money why don't you move to a city that is dying because it needs
industry set up your studio it'll be dirt cheap you can get really great internet with no with no
competing you know access so you'll always have the best speed you can get you know really good
gigabit or better.
Hire some locals.
Give them some jobs.
Hire some locals for the things they can do around cleaning and building.
But then, naturally, the revenue that flows externally from the ads you generate.
So the money we generate for this show comes from all over the country and even some other parts of the world.
Yeah, the world.
And then it centralizes wherever it is we are.
So that's one of the things I really hope to do
moving away from the cities.
I can't wait.
Because now we're going to be giving,
we're going to be creating more jobs for rural areas.
There's going to be new industry popping up,
new restaurants, new businesses, new services,
a real opportunity.
And the money comes from ads
from various bigger cities and donations
and then can go to this area so we can
be job creators you know yeah i love it but i love the idea if you're going to start a company
move out to one of these towns that needs jobs and you will revitalize these towns and then if
they have only a few thousand people who live there you put out a call to recruit a few thousand plus
one so that you can take over the local government and then start enacting crazy laws like on every Friday,
they have to provide tributes in the form of Pop-Tarts to you at your house.
I'm kidding, by the way.
It's a joke.
Sounds great.
That's funny.
Villa Music Dude says,
the reason conservatives and Republicans don't stand up much
can be explained by personality traits,
one such as politeness.
There is a stronger correlation with this trait.
Look it up.
It is true.
Non-confrontational,
more defensive, you know,
things like that. You are upset
for no reason, says, use this to buy a
burrito. Share it with Adam. Give him the bigger
half and tell him sorry for being a smug
contrarian to his perfectly valid points. Love y'all.
I will order a vegan
quesadilla. I'm going to put my
beanie on just so I can tip it to you sir
over that there we go
perfect thank you
I will order here's what I will do
a vegan quesadilla but I will give you
the sour cream
that's the only thing you're going to give me
no no I'm going to give you half
but you can have the sour cream
it sounded like you were like well I'm going to keep the quesadilla
you can have the bean it sounded like you were like well i'm gonna keep the case thanks andrew b says tim with these states saying they will vote with a popular vote
if trump gets the popular vote do you think they will still honor that or vote left i believe the
supreme court has just struck down the national popular vote coalition correct i believe so the
so yeah that's what they just did oh that did. They just did the faith selector thing.
Sorry, I was taking this.
They were like, no, no, no, no.
So the national popular vote coalition is basically each state saying to their state,
no matter how people vote, we give our electoral votes to whoever wins the popular vote.
The Supreme Court said no.
The electors have to be.
But maybe there's something I'm missing there, but that could be the end of it.
That could be the end of the national popular vote coalition.
They may have just just a huge victory.
Alan McGowan says, I was discouraged when I heard someone made you a like button.
I was working on one made of foam for you guys.
But now that I see it, it's just a pillow.
I'm definitely sending you guys mine.
And you can see which one you like better.
Don't lie.
You're making it for me.
And what we'll do is, Adam, you should put it on the wall behind you.
Oh, no, no.
We're making a new studio.
For this like button.
No, no.
We are actually moving to a new spot.
That's true.
We are not long for this house, for this place.
Yep.
So I will probably make a custom spot on the wall so I can get up and be like, yes.
A little punching bag.
I'll be Dwight when he gets the job. We also have
some soundboards coming. So maybe
we'll actually get the official... Someone
made this for us? Yes.
So wait, you got the
official soundboard? It's coming? It's a
MIDI controller. Yes! I believe it
should work. That's cool. And then it will give us
cheat, an election. Yes!
So wait, who gets control of the soundboard?
It'll be right here. So you can hit it or I can hit it. Oh, no, actually I think it. Cheat, an election. So wait, who gets control of the soundboard? It'll be right here.
So you can hit it or I can hit it.
Oh, no.
Actually, I think it might have to be with Lydia.
What is that look?
You look like you were farting.
No, I was mad.
And then I was making faces at them.
Then he was like, oh, no, it has to be over there in the corner.
And I was like, yeah. Yeah, because she controls everything.
And we just, you know.
It sure does.
Well, I definitely am going to need my own soundboard.
We've got to figure it out.
I like that.
Yeah. That's what I I like that. Yeah.
That's what I felt like saying right there.
I really would love it so that if you press the button, she popped up on the screen too. That's what I want.
I would love that.
I don't know if we might get in trouble because of like –
I've seen YouTube show – well, I mean they doctor it after the show.
But I mean, I don't know.
I haven't seen if it's live that that happens, but we'll see.
I don't know.
All right.
Supraman says, I don't agree with the far left, but I have a family and my future depends on me having a job.
Nobody will stand up for me if I shout.
I will wait for November, slam my hand down for Republicans and hope.
What else can I do?
I respect it.
I understand it.
My concern is what happens if it's not enough and what will your kids have in the future if you don't speak up
well but i don't it's so easy to say from from where you're sitting that it always bugs me
it's like i i don't know what to tell this person and i feel bad for this person because
that's the state that we're in and it's like you can't you can't it's a trap no matter what
that that right there is someone who wants to adhere to the law and and
win the correct way you know not by going and breaking down ripping down statues and screaming
at everybody and inciting violence and and and saying come at me it's like that's that's and i
think right there is most americans if right there This person right here. If every person like him
stood up at the exact same time and said,
I'm sorry, but I disagree, they would not be fired.
They would not lose their job.
They would not be put at risk. They would win
in two seconds. The issue is
the left is organized.
They have non-profits. They have
organizations that are funding this, that are
connecting with people, and the right doesn't.
Perhaps what needs to happen is one thing you can do is maybe you form an email list and you ask other people who are in similar positions to join the email list or something or sign up.
And then you can coordinate and talk about what bothers you and what you want to see and take collective action.
The left does it all day every day.
The right doesn't do it.
It's true.
You're right.
There are very few organizations on the right relative to the left that do things like this.
So Blast Binary says,
Removing.
Consider Jim Thorpe PA.
We have one gigabit internet, two hours to all metro, Victorian housing,
10 plus local owned restaurants, and plenty of gun ranges.
We have already found a secret location in a secret place.
No one will ever know. It is down by the river. It's already found a secret location and a secret place no one will ever know.
It is down by the river.
It's down by a river.
There's enough rivers I think we could just say it's down by the river.
Down by the river.
He had to correct me by saying
what I said.
You heard it, right? She said it first.
So both of you. It's me.
Whatever. Yes man. It's my turn. Yes woman. Whatever. That's right. No, I'm correcting you whatever yes yes man yes woman whatever no i'm
correcting you too just so you know sure my point stands are you moving to ohio it's the only red
state on eastern time north of mugginess that's not true new hampshire is oh north of the mugginess
north of the mugginess line yeah but new hampshire new hampshire is red yeah i think so yeah it's very isn't there another populated and maine is half red yeah maine's funny i've never been up there maine is like you can
walk in and be like one gun please and they're like here you are sir yep i'm kidding you still
have the federal wait period but i was reading about you just walk in and be like i would like
a gun and then you can just like stuff it in your shirt like you just walk because there's like
nobody who lives there you know what i mean right Right, okay. And they have a thing called black flies.
Gigantic biting bugs.
Oh, like the insect.
I thought it was going to be some sort of weird
thing I've never heard of.
Yeah, I've heard of black flies. They're all across.
They seem terrible. They're prevalent in the
Midwest also.
Ascendant Media says, the tyranny of deterioration
worries me that it's all just a waste of time
taking one step forward, two steps back.
Still, I believe there's a breath through the thorns, and I believe this summer's warm.
Thrice the long defeat.
Well, here's hoping that this is my hope that come November, Republicans sweep.
And the first thing they do is 230 reform.
And that restores everything back to normal.
Yep.
If you're listening out there, Republicans, it's time to do something.
Please.
Well, we are about 10 minutes over.
So, excuse me.
I got to take ups.
That means it's time to go.
Go for it.
I'm waiting.
I'm waiting for you to do it.
Delightfully smash the like button.
Gently.
It's bedtime.
Just touch the like button.
Biden the like button.
Biden?
No, you got to go from behind.
You got to.
Oh, my gosh.
What are you doing?
Adam is Biden-ing the like button.
You got to sniff it, Adam.
Gently Biden that like button.
Okay, this got really weird really fast.
Seriously. I regret nothing. Oh, this got really weird really fast. Seriously.
I regret nothing.
That's amazing.
You know, we've been jamming on a new song
together. He started playing
a song and I started jamming on it.
It's an old song.
You already knew the words.
But you just love
putting me down, don't you?
I throw it on the ground.
I was complimenting you.
He already knows the words.
I was like, you know how to play it.
You knew the song.
Anyway, what I was trying to say to everybody, be excited.
We're working on music together.
That's true.
That's where I was trying to steer the conversation.
New music.
Woo.
New music you've never heard and we have
the will of the people complete version maybe
oh yeah I think mid-august yeah full video and everything
I think she's almost done with the song and the
animation I don't know about the how far along
mid-august maybe end of August.
But I think the song is, we could almost put the song out probably before that.
I want to put it out with the video.
Okay, okay.
Because the video, I know, no, you're right.
When you hear the lyrics, you can maybe imagine what you can fill in the gaps.
But when you see what's happening in the song, it really paints the picture.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
It's going to be good.
Yeah.
Well, thanks for showing up, everybody. Make make sure to follow everybody you can follow me on twitter
and instagram at timcast follow me at adam criggler on parlor youtube um twitter instagram
and actually uh cosmic garth just got back today uh ian Oh, yeah. He's walked in. And Betsy, the cat, like wigged out because she's so happy.
But the reason I bring him up is because he walked in, looked at me,
and was like, let's start a TV show.
And I'm like, yes.
So you can actually, AdamCast IRL is actually a channel.
So you can find it on YouTube.
You can type it in.
I uploaded one of the episodes that me and Ian did about Tesla. Really love Tesla.
It was one of my favorite episodes that we did.
And we're going to be doing it. We're going to be
digging into some... We're going to be doing deep dives
probably once a week.
Probably a Saturday show so you can
follow us and watch
our show. In about two months, we're
going to have a brand new set.
And it's going to be amazing because it's probably going to be
multiple sets in one set
that, you know, like,
you could probably carve out a space
that's unique.
But then the whole show
would have a bigger space
with guests and everything.
I've already got hit up
by several people who are awesome
who want a guest on the show
and I'm excited.
But we need, you know, transition.
And we're going to be out
in the middle of nowhere.
So it'll be very difficult
to find a way to bring people out.
But we're going to be like in the mountains. We're going to have to blindfold them. We're going to have like... Black bag them. We're going to be out in the middle of nowhere, so it'll be very difficult to find a way to bring people out, but we're going to be in the mountains. We're going to have to blindfold them.
We're going to have like... Black bag them.
We're going to have guard towers. Bring them out.
The best part is the auto-defense turrets.
Yes. The auto...
It's going like... Motion detector turrets.
And don't forget to... 50 cals.
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Yep. And then we'll be back tomorrow. See you tomorrow, everybody. 8 Sour Patch Lids. L-Y-D-S. And Parler. Yep.
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See you all tomorrow.