Timcast IRL - Tor Ekeland Uncensored: Media LOSES It Over 'Right Wing' Influencers Saying 'THEY' Control The Hurricanes
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So they say that they were controlling the show. Well, how do you do it? Do your people use the gold that you've hoarded to disperse particulates into the air, which can shift the direction of the wind?
So first we organize something called a minyan. We need 10 grown Jewish, 10 bar mitzvahed men, and then we pray in temple together for the demise of the Gentiles.
I'm joking.
How many times have you taken part in that?
I feel like I'm nervous even joking about this,
like being cut up in a flattering way.
You don't want to be our token Jewish person tonight
to answer these questions?
Token neocon, token Jew.
Senior Jewish Affairs Correspondent is my preferred title.
So you asked for this.
You are a Jewish Affairs Correspondent.
You won't comment on what the people are up to
I don't want to give you guys the scoop. What was it? Look at my Twitter
Let's put the space lasers not involved. There's no space laser in the weather control
Is that like a separate thing you guys do it look at my tweet
People who think it's the government can do it you find it
Great. No, we're okay crazy. I make one post saying I'm Israel Chai
and boom, just like that, front page of YouTube.
I didn't fathom that angle
because YouTube
is so very pro-Israel.
Are they really? No, I don't...
So, for those that are listening, I tweeted
crazy, I make one post saying I'm
Israel Chai and boom, just like that,
front page of YouTube and I showed a
screenshot of it and I'm joking, of. And boom, just like that front page of YouTube. And I showed a screenshot of it.
And I'm joking, of course.
But it's funny because I'm also trolling the people who hate Israel.
They're going to be like, we know it.
It's bruising.
So anyway, we have these retards in the corporate press.
Right-wing influencers claim they defeated physics, geoengineered Hurricane Milton.
Dude, what the fuck does it mean to
defeat physics? My guy. I'm sorry, my lady. Okay, I don't know if I can express myself
in words that she would understand, but I will try. When we created the heavier than air flying
machine, many said that we have defeated physics.
Just because we figure out
how to make things do things
doesn't mean physics doesn't exist.
Now, I don't believe
that there is a secret cabal
of Democrats or CIA, whoever,
World Economic Forum controlling the weather.
But it is funny
that they're getting so bent out of shape about this.
So we did talk about it the other day,
but I actually want to talk about it with a lot as well.
And I thought it was a fun conversation anyway.
And Tor, do you think that they can control the weather?
And by they, I mean powerful interests, governments, and militaries.
I haven't seen it, but I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility.
But, you know, I mean, somebody was telling me,
somebody was telling me today or the other day that in Vietnam,
they were, the military was like staging storms.
Yeah.
And to flood out the Viet Cong.
You know, I haven't seen it, but like, I don't.
I swear that person was watching our show last night because we were talking about it.
Yeah, I don't I don't know.
I mean, what's this Operation Popeye?
It does seem sort of ridiculous that no one would have looked into how to influence weather.
Like they're always talking about the climate crisis and these things are bad.
And just everyone was like, but we won't come up with any way to sort of see if we
can deter storms from forming or anything like the possibility that no one has been thinking about
this it seems seems ridiculous to me so therefore wouldn't someone have figured a way to influence
some kind of uh impact and weather so the republicans currently have an eight seat majority
in the house can you imagine mike johnson struggling to keep all the
republicans on brand i can only lose a handful of votes or my bills go to shit and then it's just
like okay what what's the next big news issue that we're worried about what's in the news cycle right
now make me struggle to pass my agenda and it's just like well at the top of the news reel is just
um marjorie taylor green just talking random shit just like oh you the top of the news reel is just Marjorie Taylor Greene just talking
random shit just like oh you don't think he's
grateful for this because I think he would be like
yeah you go out there and distract him and then we're gonna be
here passing all kinds of weird things like
look over there
no I think Henneke is right
he's like we need them to be distracted
with bullshit because we're gonna pass some
massive spending package for Israel
and then she's like you got it it. Space lasers and weather control. And the media is like,
look over there. And then he's like, all right, sign it quick. Just a huge psyop. It's funny
because I was actually mentioning this to Hannah Clare before the show. One of the most
interesting dramas in this political cycle, at least to me, has been the beef between Marjorie
Taylor Greene and Laura Loomer. They've kind of been beefing for Donald Trump's fave female spot, biggest sycophant. And Marjorie Taylor Greene
has been very insecure about how much better of a cheerleader Laura Loomer has been for him than
she has. And allegedly sunk Laura Loomer's opportunity to work in the Trump campaign
because Marjorie Taylor Greene was talking a lot of crap about her to him.
So I thought that was my.
Wow.
I could not care less.
Well, I mean, what's Laura Loomer's position on weather control?
That's.
She controls it.
Let's return to the most important point.
She controls the weather.
She's Jewish, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Her and Elad, they get together and collaborate.
Loomer's a Florida resident from what I understand. I mean, that seems like
a risky move right now. She's being subversive.
You'd never suspect it were her
in Florida.
That's why when we planned it, we were like,
hit Florida, the goyim would never
suspect it. Right, I get you.
I totally see it now.
It is like if you were committing robberies
on your block,
you would also rob your own house.
So therefore, you wouldn't be a suspect.
You would always be a victim.
They could show up.
Oh, what happened to my house?
You guys too?
Who did this?
And then where's Kamala at on the weather control?
She's controlling it when it's expedient, and she's not.
Her husband is invited to influence the weather.
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
That's her husband. That's right. That's her husband.
That's right.
She's in on it.
That's how you get the...
I feel like he's trying to take her campaign then because she's not doing well with the
hurricane response narrative here.
I mean, she's not coming across as sympathetic.
She's not coming across as, you know, an effective vice president.
She's sort of floundering in all angles.
So maybe Doug just doesn't want her to be, you know,
he's tired of time in Washington.
He wants to go back to California.
I don't know if you guys saw,
but Trump actually went to go visit the weatherman yesterday
where he tried to lobby them for better weather.
Trump visited the gravesite of a very influential rabbi,
leader of the Chabad movement yesterday that has caused the consternation of many people with Israel derangement syndrome.
So he's doing whatever he can to stop the hurricane is what you're telling me.
Yes, he's trying.
That's very respectful.
He was lobbying the weather people.
Hey, please do what you can.
I know.
And meanwhile, Kamala Harris may or may not have a direct line and she seems to not be using it.
Not be utilizing it.
That's why you should support Trump failing on this. There was an op ed in Fox that I mentioned this to a lot before the show, but that they this person was arguing that, you know, we always we've become prone to anticipate the October surprise.
What's going to be in this case? The October surprise is just how bad the hurricane is, like the fact that it wasn't just Helene. Now we're getting Milton. Now Nadine's on its way, that this part of the country is being pummeled and the contrast
between how the parties are responding and also how much the people in America feel left
behind.
In some ways, like this is better.
If you can handle it correctly, this is better than an orchestrated sort of media takedown
because it's really about the people,
which for Trump is his bread and butter, right? He is the populist candidate.
If the October surprise wasn't going to be Jews acting up in the Middle East,
it'll be Jews controlling the weather in Florida instead.
Oh, you really think everything's about the Jews. That's interesting.
Come on. I pay attention to the news on Twitter.
So if I need to control the weather, you can hook me up?
Well, you'll have to call some people higher up than me, but you know.
I don't know.
I think you're in on it.
Doug Emhoff.
Now I just feel like one of those guys listing Jews wherever I could find them just because
I'm so familiar with all of them.
So I don't want to run down the list of like, oh yeah, Donald Trump could also call his
daughter to ask about the weather or his son's law.
His daughter, he had to call the son-in-law converted so so she gets does that count uh depends on who you ask yeah you know there's a saying among jews it's like two jews
three opinions so it really it really does depend on who you ask well and it's like it's supposed
to be uh important that the the mother's heritage is what's counted, right?
But then if she converts, it's like...
Does that count?
Many people say it's kosher.
Depends on who you ask.
And then there's levels that you could convert.
You could be a reform convert, a conservative convert, an orthodox convert.
So then there's a sliding scale.
Like a Costco membership.
Yeah, and then different rabbis or different levels of purists about it.
I'm sure you guys have equivalents in Christianity where it's—no?
No, it's one of the interesting crossovers, and I feel like I can't talk about it without getting canceled in some way.
Yeah, I'm keeping my mouth shut, too.
I mean, I think with Christianity, there's questions about devoutness, right?
But the tracing of the lineage doesn't't exist i will say prophesizing people
is frowned upon we don't just jews prophesize people it's like not part of the religion as it
is in christianity and islam so that that dynamic to differ a little bit on that because in new york
i get you know around hanukkah and passover i always get packages at my apartment from,
I don't know what sect it is,
but with the chocolates and everything.
And I always eat the chocolates every year.
You know, you look a little Jewish.
They might be mistaking you for something.
I get stopped on the street all the time by those kids.
You could go undercover
and see if you could control the weather maybe.
I wouldn't mind that.
Oh, wait a minute.
Yeah.
What do we think?
Like, is the hurricane season that is not about to end anytime soon going to be what dominates the news cycle up until the election?
I think it's going to be Middle East flare up, but that's because I'm anticlimactic. Like I the narrative to me seems like right now is government incompetence on the kind of very needed disaster response, which should not be in any way a partisan issue.
But, you know, I am looking at the vice president going out and doing a bunch of media hits when Appalachia is just devastated.
You know, I'm a little bit surprised that they're not paying more attention.
You would think that she should just go camp out in some small town to draw attention to it or something like do your podcast weird appearances yourself as a doer and somebody who's going to
get this taken care of instead of going doing whatever they'd go daddy.com or whatever she was
doing call her daddy but that's even fun call her daddy right which is cool you know whatever
cool show I guess I don't know I haven't seen it like more power to you like whatever but like
you know Appalachia was devastated right did i miss am i wrong in that
like they were devastated and you know whatever the politics is like why aren't they in there
actually what are they doing what are they doing it is kind of crazy especially since they don't
actually like it when she does interviews they could just be sending her down with like
cartons of canned goods and like doing whatever where you know it would be
political theater so i won't put or it would be otherwise but it would be a way to be like
hey she's coming in with to hand out meat hot meals and then at least somebody would be handing
out hot meals you know what i mean like there is a way to do it where like even if it's not enough
it is about what's going on in these devastated communities. Because I know, I
understand why the Middle East, what's going on there, the geopolitical tension would be relevant.
But in some cases, like, if you don't have cell service right now, like, you don't care what's
going on in the Middle East. You really care about if you're going to be able to get your house back.
And so I think in some ways, the fact that it has basically off the like thrown a lot of americans off their
normal grid and therefore out of their normal media consumption habits it it doesn't seem like
the international conflicts are as pressing as as how am i going to get water is another hurricane
coming when am i going to get my remediation team in to see if they can save my house i don't know
but kamala harris want to talk about that, so.
She doesn't.
What's going on?
I've been thinking of nicknames for Kamala Harris,
and since she's a woman,
I've been thinking of incorporating, like, mom.
Skank.
Well, that was her thing.
Mom-a-la.
Mom-a-la.
Kam-a-mi-la.
Harris.
I thought you were going, like, with insults.
No, no.
I'm trying to
humanize her in a motherly way.
In a paternalistic...
Wasn't she the brat?
Kamamila? I like Mamila.
She was brat.
Mamala is what her daughter-in-law calls her.
Doug Emhoff's daughter.
You're not being mean enough.
No, Mamila.
If she's elected, she'd be the country's caretaker and
i think what the best part is right now is how many people now that they have insisted like you
have to pronounce her name correctly how many people are going out of their way to like
mispronounce it in weirder ways like it's not just it's like carmella now like it's just changing
that's my favorite i got a new i got a new one. Okay, this is a word.
Comma laughter.
Comma laughter? When you
nervously laugh inappropriately,
indicating that you may be
under the influence of some kind of substance.
Or just like
stressed out at your 60 Minutes interview.
She just looked like she was so
stressed out. Comma laughter.
What is Trump and saying?
Comrade Kamala?
Yeah, Comrade Kamala.
That's not good.
That's not good.
That's probably his weakest one.
Yeah, Kamala is better.
No, I think it's better than Comrade and the fear of communism is so alive in America.
Claire, I wanted to ask you.
Kamala.
What are you teeing me up here for?
Kamala Harris is a woman.
Donald Trump's obviously a man.
When we talk about Trump, though, we refer to him as Trump, not Donald.
But when we refer to Kamala Harris, it's always Kamala.
They did that on purpose.
That was never Harris.
It was their choice.
I don't know whose choice it was.
It was Harris.
No, no, no, no.
Let me stop you there because this is really interesting, actually.
The Harris campaign made it a specific choice to run the campaign under Kamala and not Harris,
which is very weird because we normally don't do that.
And I think it's because Kamala is a unique name and Harris is generic.
When I've gone over this with keywords on YouTube, I don't ever put Harris does X because
Harris does not resonate with people at all.
Kamala, people know what that means.
Harris could be anything.
The easiest way to understand it was by choice is Kamala HQ is their Twitter account.
They chose to brand her Kamala. Kamala sounds a lot more ethnic than- Kamala.
Kamala. You racist. Sounds a lot more ethnic than Harris. Harris,
Claire, you look like your last name could be Harris. Exactly. But you don't look like you
could be Kamala.
Does that line up?
Do you know what I'm trying to say?
No, say specifically why I get all of that way. Kamalama Ding Dong.
Give a specific description of my person.
Harris is like, you know.
Other part is like, it makes me think that they are still pursuing this like female pop icon energy for her.
Like Beyonce, Madonna.
We have lots of one name female
artists and it's just the first name um also I think you know they don't want to give her any
personality or personal life unless it's just vague glimpses that make her seem human so the
other question is like you know I guess she's been a public figure for a long time she could be
Kamala Emhoff right like she's married to this man she could
have taken his last name but she's a girl boss so she's sticking with Harris I pretty much always
try to refer to her as Harris uh partially because I feel like it's consistent that's how I refer to
other candidates but also because her name seems like a trap now that it's like you could maybe
mispronounce it and therefore be racist and to be honest i just don't know how
it's supposed i know it's kamala now but when she first emerged i was like who is this person
um i i don't know that um there was i can't remember what outlet there was an article
right after she announced within the first week where it was like should we refer to her by her
last name because that's what we do for men or is it nicer that we refer to her by her first name because
it gives her an individuality.
No one ever settled this issue
and the American public just went with Kamala.
How about for a nickname
That Dumb Bitch?
Doesn't roll off the tongue, I will be honest.
I like saying it though.
That Dumb Bitch.
I think it's one of the only ways to give her
a personality. It's a unique the only ways to give her a personality, right?
Like, it's a unique name, and therefore you remember her.
If you lined her up with 47 other female politicians, I do not think she's the one that you would walk away remembering.
Does she have a middle name?
Devi.
Her mom's name is Shamala.
That's the best part, that they have rhyming names.
Are you serious?
No way.
And her dad's name is Donald.
Donald J.
Donald J.
Donald J. J Donald J Harris
And what was the
Right
What was the mom
Shamala
Oh they're strange
She's estranged from her dad
Yeah
But her mom's name
Is actually Shamala
Yep
Okay
Kamala Shamala
Okay
I tweeted Kamala Shamala
And people were like
It's Shamala
You got it wrong
And I'm like what
That's her mom's name
See it's a trap
Like you're being asked
To pronounce names
And you can't get it right Okay look, you're being asked to pronounce names.
We live in it.
Okay, look.
If you're a Christian, I will just tell you this.
We live in a constructed universe.
You already knew that.
If you're an atheist, we live in a simulation.
Call it whatever you want.
This is not random chance.
The world is too fucking weird.
I have a very ethnic name. Kamala Shamala?
Michael Mouse on the show, and he was like, Roe v. Wade?
What the fuck?
Don't you wish that. Roe v the fuck? Don't you wish that?
Roe v. Wade.
Don't you wish that?
I don't know that I actually wish she had kids, but I wonder what she would have named
her own daughter, right?
So we have Shamala, we have Kamala, we have Lamala.
Where does this go from here?
Lamala.
Or do you just abandon it because now you're Western?
Lamala.
The need to correct people on her name, I think, comes off as extremely smug.
As somebody who has a very ethnic name that's harder and probably more often mispronounced than Kamala's name,
I've never tried to correct people.
I commend people for even trying for a very ethnic first and last name.
I have a double first name, which is unusual in America, but both names are super Western, super normal.
My first name is Hannah Clare.
And when you try and correct people, people act like you are so rude.
Yeah.
People don't know this, but my full name is not Tim.
It's an acronym for the Incredible Machine.
It's true.
Is the last name an acronym too?
Yeah.
Four.
We can't tell you that.
He's going to steal
his whole identity.
Punctual, occupational,
organizational liaison.
Liaison.
That sounds like that
was your family's
government business.
French, huh?
Indeed.
Liaison.
We need to watch out
for the four letter agencies.
And under the beanie
is the command input.
It's in the USB port.
It's USB A, actually,
because I was built well before USB-C.
But we'll get that updated soon.
That's scarier than the alternative for what's under that
beanie.
Why are you scared? No, for the
alternative, it's better that there'd be some
machine contraption. It's actually
transparent. You can see
sparkling lights. Who knows what could be under there?
Just throw out a hypothesis. What are you scared of?
I don't know.
Different head cap.
It's just a giant Star of David, right?
Who knows?
Right in the middle.
And that would scare you?
So you don't want him to be Jewish?
I mean, it's actually Voldemort's head.
I need to protect his proper identity.
So at the weather meeting.
You just want a monopoly on this show of being the person.
Underneath the beanie is a smaller hat.
All right, everybody.
We're going to go to callers.
And we'll start with Aura Observes.
Welcome to the show.
You are.
There you go.
Oh, yep.
Here I am.
Hey, thanks for taking my call.
This is my second time calling in.
And I really appreciate being able to ask questions to you all.
Yeah.
You're welcome.
This question is open to Tim and everyone. This is in regards to last week's debate between Vivek and John Bolton.
In it, Bolton stated that NATO's goal in the Ukraine-Russian war is to reclaim not just the lands taken in the current war, but all the lost lands, including Crimea. When pressed by Vivek, Bolton confirmed that this is his position
and the stance of the NATO alliance.
Isn't this intent essentially the equivalent of declaring war on Russia?
Well, he can't formally declare war, but expressing his intent
that if he gets in the government, he will, so yes.
That's why we don't like him.
But he said that it's his position and the position
of the nato alliance so it's like whoa that's a lot but still he it's true and it's scary he
as an individual can't declare anything but it's also not surprising to me to hear that
nato wants war you know what i mean i don't know el lied you want to chime in i think it's a territorial dispute um the dumbass and crimea were sovereign ukraine territory um 2014 it was for crimea and
more recently for the dumbass and i'm not surprised that both sides disagree on what is
you know proper ukraine or russia proper russia currently says that like the Donbass claims the Donbass is
a part of Russia. I'm not surprised that the Ukrainians and John Bolton are still claiming
Crimea and the Donbass is like a part of their country. I think I didn't listen to the debate
with John Bolton. But as far as John Bolton as a symbol for what I believe like of peace through strength as a representative for that, I think he does a relatively poor job.
I think he's kind of washed up at this point.
But I think, you know, we need to go through that.
Glide threw a mustache to match John Bolton and now he's regretting it.
I think he did well while serving as a public figure, but it's difficult to really negotiate what part of your territory is worth trading off or not.
I'll tell you, in Ukraine, the Ukrainians believe that the Crimea and Donbass area are still part of Ukraine and that they're still willing and want to fight Russia for it.
It's just, as Vivek put it on the debate,
it's like this is mythological.
There's no way you can ever get Russia to give up these lands,
especially not within this small fight within Ukraine.
So what it could possibly lead, at least in my opinion,
is it only means NATO wants a total Russia defeat in order to make
that happen. They're intent. Yeah, well, I thought that was true from the beginning.
I think we're seeing Ukraine now try to take a part. I don't agree with this specific strategy,
but because we've seen this conflict kind of run amok, we're seeing Ukraine now grab parts of
Russia that I think is only being used as a potential leverage in future negotiations.
Like you give me more part of the Donbass back. I'll give you this random part of Russia. So,
you know, and here's the thing. Once this conflict in Ukraine ends and the Russians will likely take
over half of the Donbass and likely not get removed from Crimea at all. In the future,
the Russians will plan an invasion of Ukraine again. I don't know if it'll be in five years
or 10 years, in 20 years, but they will take another chomp at Ukraine. And I guess Russia's
plan here is if they can't do it in one foul swoop to take their time and do it in pieces.
And I think that's what we're seeing them successfully do, because I agree with Vivek here. I don't think the Ukraine is going to be able to get any of
Crimea back and maybe token amounts of the Donbass if we do want to see peace here at all.
Right on. Is there anything else you wanted to add or shout out?
Well, a big shout out to the Steamboat Institute. Those are the folks that hosted the debate.
I saw the whole thing.
It's really well organized.
I really want to give them a shout out.
If you guys haven't gone and checked out that debate and seen it in its entirety, it's an amazing debate.
And apparently they host a bunch of other debates as well, just hitting on topics very similar to that one that I think is really worth giving a shout out to.
Right on.
Tim, have you ever tried to have John Bolton on the show?
I mean, if...
I don't know, but we're going to jump to the next caller, so thanks for calling in.
All right, next up, we could certainly have Bolton at some point.
We got a lot of plans for the Culture War, and we're thinking of doing street interviews and shows where we actually set up a table and do a culture war podcast live at a university. And then not too dissimilar from Change My Mind, but it's not
about changing my mind. We want to bring on guests and have them have these conversations.
So we'll figure it out. But let's grab Danny Delete. What is up?
Why, hello, longtime follower, even since the Vice days, but also still love to call in.
Right on.
Let's see.
My question is for the entire panel and kind of how constitutionally this might work.
So within my work, there has been the resurfacing of Kamal's videos about Medicare for all and getting rid of private insurance. And in cooperating with different people we work with,
a lot of other insurance companies are now finding those videos again
and freaking out and pausing policies.
This is causing internal conversations about it,
and it's interesting it's a month out from the election.
How do we see the realization of this playing out?
Because more and more the industry is freaking out now that they're realizing that she's actually against their jobs existing.
That's interesting.
I don't know.
I mean, it depends on how fast people realize this, right, and how effective the messaging is. Again, for whatever reason, Kamala Harris is selling herself as the vibes candidate and
is somehow able to keep enough voters happy by saying nothing while also sort of pretending to
say something. That's not really a clear answer, but it's just to me, it's hard to speculate this
close to the election and not knowing how quickly this situation would would gain attention again, kind of because the hurricane is dominating everything right now.
The hurricanes, I should say.
Yeah.
How old are these videos?
Are they like, I mean, what's her position now is I guess.
That's true.
Her values have changed and she wants to work on compromise.
Everyone should vote against her because for all you know, she's opposed to you.
You don't know. She's been in favor and opposite to everything.
I also kind of don't see her picking that fight.
I mean, I could be wrong, like because it's going to be a close election no matter what.
I don't think either side's going to have a lot of political capital.
And that's a big fight to pick. So I don't know. That's going to have a lot of political capital, and that's a big fight to pick.
So I don't know. That's a really interesting question.
Do you have an opinion?
Did you have a follow-up on that question, sir?
The follow-up was just even how they could even, as the guest is involved in constitutional law,
how could they even change that to work within
the constitutional framework oh boy that's a really great big question it depends on how you
view the constitution because i kind of tend to view it like it doesn't permit that uh kind of
massive whatever you would call it but um you know there's another school of thought
that you know sort of the new deal kind of thinking that gained traction in the 20th century
that you can sort of just amend the constitution by fiat or just by act i mean my big axe to grind
on that point is when they wrote the constitution they didn't want there to be general federal criminal jurisdiction.
And you have to take this insane interpretation of the Commerce Clause to get to it.
And I think to get to this kind of universal health care, you kind of have to do the same thing.
And ultimately, I think at the end of the day that the people just end up deciding it and i don't know if there will even be any agreement on that because it's such a
controversial thing you know i think this notion that the constitution is just bounded by its text
is not um an accurate view of the constitution just historically because um the government and the people have acted in all
sorts of ways that are just contrary to the text and that's not an argument against textualism
it's just sort of i think a a more realistic pragmatic view of how things play out constitutionally
in this country do you think you want to shout out Do you want to shout out?
I just want to shout out the Cajun Navy 20,
2016.
They're the main thing still actually going right now.
The other,
a lot of their Cajun Navy ground support relief efforts are kind of offshoots that are kind of taking away from the actual main Cajun Navy
2016 that are actually still helping out and or planning and staging for
the next hurricanes.
Wow. Right on. Have a good night. Thank you for calling in. All right. Next up, we're going to bring in
Heavensby. It is Jesus Chris. He's here. Yes, it is indeed. It's my first time calling in and I've
been listening for years. So I appreciate you taking my call. Thanks for calling.
Yeah.
Well, my question is primarily aimed towards Tor.
Brian Lunduk reported on this last week, and it was about the Linux Godot community.
They recently had a mass banning incident from both their Discord and SourceCore access.
They also blacked out a whole bunch of journalists.
The banning was specifically targeting people with the quote-unquote wrong political beliefs.
They claimed that it was harassment of this mass group,
and they were harassing people afterwards and all sorts of stuff that just simply wasn't happening.
Afterwards, they had a public release, and they were trying to explain it.
But in the end, they basically said that they were the Linux kernel community and things like that,
either from any kind of a constitutional or legal standpoint?
You know, I don't think there is. I mean, beyond just going out and, you know,
forming a new community. I mean, I think it's unfortunate that those kinds of fights
happen. They seem to happen a lot in those kinds of spaces, just like, I guess, any other kind of space. But I don't, you know, and then even if you could do something, the one thing, you know, as a lawyer, I say to a lot of people is like, do you really want to spend all your energy, like litigating that or fighting that when you could actually just turn it to positive creation and just sort of, you know,
look back on that thing. And while that was an unfortunate incident, yeah, we got screwed, but
let's go turn to something positive because I think it's very easy to get caught up in sort of
that desire for setting things right and vengeance. And I think that ultimately in the long run just
has negative consequences that aren't, aren't, aren't worth it. So like, but nothing off the
top of my head, like pops in like, Oh, okay. You know, is there, you know, some kind of legal
action you could probably take? Yeah. You can find a lawyer to spin out anything. Um, you know,
call me, right. Uh, but, um, you're willing to to to have some billable hours yeah i hate the
billable hour i hate the billable hour uh but i i don't i can't think of anything off the top of my
head i mean it's unfortunate you know these kinds of high school antics and this kind of censorship
because i'm a i'm a first amendment absolutist and that kind of thing and i think you need to
be able to stomach other people's views and get along.
Was that always your position on the First Amendment
or did it evolve over time?
Pretty much almost.
I didn't have a real deep understanding
of the First Amendment
until I really got into the Constitution.
But I think I've always just been a loudmouth
who popped off.
So I didn't, you know, I don't want to, you know.
But I mean, you got to,
tolerance is really, really important.
And so I think that's unfortunate what happened.
But, you know, I see that happen a lot, you know.
So anything you want to follow up with?
Yeah, it kind of makes it so that you have to do a lot of different things.
Like this particular community had the Godot source code repository forked into Redot.
And they so far haven't done a whole lot other than merging changes back upstream from Godot.
So it's a really interesting problem because they're basically forming a new community, just like you said.
But it's hard to see that schism, which is basically causing the source code
to end up completely split,
but they're basically doing the same thing.
So I don't know.
I guess it's frustrating from my perspective
to see open source doing that,
but it does end up with multiple communities
potentially doing different and interesting things.
So there is that.
It's kind of in a sense,
it's not open source anymore.
In a certain sense,
it's like factions are taking control of it right but then we're gonna go down the
rabbit hole on that conversation but um you know it's unfortunate yeah absolutely well that's that's
pretty much what i got i appreciate y'all for taking my call um i do just want to shout out
real quick the uh the cast 20 uh discord server it's uh we've been playing D&D and RPGs for a little over a year now,
and everybody met on the TimCast server for the most part,
and we pretty much take anyone that's middle-of-the-road and conservative over there.
And if anybody's interested in playing some D&D, you should come join us.
You can send me a message or check out the D&D thread.
Thanks, guys.
Thanks for calling in.
And I of course have not removed monocrypt or jeweled Lotus from any of my
decks.
In fact,
I still have dockside extortionist in some of them,
but,
um,
my not do deck.
I have no problem,
no longer playing.
That is to say,
I don't respect the bands and,
uh,
wizards should undo them.
But anyway,
onto Harold,
Harold of the Omni stone you are here
hey guys let's save the craziest for last yeah welcome to the show so um
yeah i've been a long time listener and uh i started following you guys listen to you guys
when uh all the uh plotting started happening that's actually how I found out about your kids.
But anyways, so something that has been bothering me lately
is listening to the communist Marxists speak out about the hurricane
or speaking about the hurricane.
And they've been saying a lot about disaster equity.
So do you think that when they say disaster equity
and how they seem to be making things worse or at least
more difficult do you think they actually mean that they want a specific outcome of how many
people of a certain race quote-unquote whites die because they believe this will impact uh
them the most because they seem to think that only white people live in the Appalachian Mountains.
And that's probably the case.
I believe when they want to incorporate DEI into their rescue operations and such, I think if they see what they view as disproportionate amounts of minorities affected by this,
then they will prioritize them over others is how I understand
that. We saw something like this actually with the vaccine rollout where they were encouraging
or they were only giving vaccines. They were limiting the amount of vaccines that they were
giving to non-minorities because they thought they were differently vulnerable. I'd need to
pull this up again, but this is terrible.
Whether whatever the color of your skin is,
your ethnic status isn't what should determine whether or not you are saved.
And none of that should be considered
in the prioritization of who our rescue workers
are saving in whatever order.
But they have been advocating for disaster equity.
This is in the videos that have, you know,
they've gone viral. So I think they'd say black people are disproportionately affected because
such and such. And therefore we need to seek out rescuing and prioritizing black lives.
But in a zero sum rescue operation. Right. If it's everything is so dangerous, you can't be
telling me that like you have the chance to rescue some people, but you passed up because they weren't
the right color. Right. Like it should be rescuing who as many people as you can as fast as you can the idea is fucked up to
say like oh more people of color have been harmed by this therefore we are going to seek out people
of color specifically to save and not non-minorities because we need to have this be equitable and
they'd say the reverse is racist because, look, black people were disproportionately killed.
Therefore, we need to seek them out to try to make less disproportionate.
And I think that was like a similar logic to the vaccine rollout.
How is it equitable to use a discriminatory metric in deciding who lives like because equity to them means that historically disproportionate
historically marginalized people are already below someone else so equity is evening it out
but you're not you're making a discriminatory choice about right you're using a discriminatory
metric to decide who lives so that like yeah. But in the world of diversity, equity, and inclusion. I get the world.
I've hung.
Right.
A homeless white man is more powerful than Oprah Winfrey.
The way to make a justifiable outcome is by having the outcome be proportionate to percent
race by population.
So if any of these minorities are overrepresented in being affected by these hurricanes or natural disasters, they will seek out to benefit them disproportionately, regardless of what the situation was.
We should never assume to see the population perfectly graphed on to almost anything as a percent of population.
This is a little bit off topic, but I don't know if you saw this. There was an interview with a sheriff
and I think it was like the director
of emergency management in a small town in Tennessee.
And they were talking about,
yes, we have been devastated and things are very hard.
And they got asked by journalists.
There was a factory there,
and I wish I remember the name of it now,
that got flooded and there was a lot
of loss of life but it was specifically among a big hispanic population and the um the emergency
response coordinator had to say something to the effect of like well we he was apologizing for not
putting out more warnings in spanish because and he had to say like we actually weren't aware we had a large Hispanic population.
So we feel awful because we didn't serve these people and this community is sad and like this is lost life and that's tragic.
But also his explanation was like we didn't know they were there. To me, this reads as though there is perhaps a large population of
undocumented people working at this factory, and therefore they are not plugged into regular
resources. They're also not, you know, predominantly not speaking English. And so the emergency
warnings that the town seems like they did their best to get out would never have reached this
population because they are not plugged into the community they're in. That's a little bit of an
aside from what you're talking about.
But there does, I think, become this component of people immediately trying to say,
because this has become a habit for media, well, you actually only let the white people survive
or you only help them and you didn't help this other disadvantaged community.
And I think the reality is that no one wants to have to report that there are there are mass casualties because of hurricanes in their county and they would service whoever they could as fast as they could in any way they could if they had the resources, time and in this case, knowledge of what the challenges they were facing.
Yeah. Did we address your question? Did you have a follow up there? the, if it was up to people like that, the FEMA coordinators and all the ones that don't act,
that aren't actually like doing the physical recoveries, such as the police officers,
firefighters, volunteers, if they had that absolute authority, those people would actually
choose to discriminate on who they save. I actually think that's how psychotic these people are.
Maybe. We're in a very divisive time in America,
so I can understand why you think that.
But I just got a notification that Kamala opened a beer
with Colbert, so, you know, she'll win now.
Famously,
Trump and Biden both don't drink, so
I guess she's trying to be the cool candidate.
I don't know if we lost the caller or if he
just finished his sentence abruptly.
If you're there, is there anything you want to shout out?
Sorry, I just
stopped talking because I realized I was about to start rambling.
Okay.
Anything you want to shout out?
I actually
wanted to draw some attention
to the fact that Kamala Harris
decided to refer to
October as Noctober
to get the vote out for her voter base.
And it's rather interesting that Comrade Kamala has a Noctober,
otherwise known as KKKtober.
Wow.
Noctober.
Her messaging is all over the place.
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man.
Thanks for calling and a tour.
Thanks for hanging out.
It's been fun.
I had a great time.
Thanks.
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