Timcast IRL - Trans Minneapolis Shooter BLAMED Massacre On Mom & Gender Transition w/ ALex Stein, Karys Rhea, & Jamie Reed

Episode Date: August 30, 2025

Alex Stein, Phil, & Libby are joined by Karys Rhea & Jamie Reed to discuss the Trans Minneapolios shooter blaming the massacre on his mom and gender transition, Cuomo leading Mamdani in a new poll, a ...US Appeals Court ruling Trump's tariffs are illegal, and a near midair collision between a Southwest & Spirit planes.   Hosts:  Alex Stein @AlexStein99 (X)  @PrimeTimeAlexStein  (YouTube) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Libby @LibbyEmmons (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guests: Karys Rhea @RheaKarys (X) Jamie Reed @JamieWhistle (X)

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Starting point is 00:01:24 Get Beautiful Anonymous wherever you listen to podcasts. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, welcome to Timcast, IRL. I am your guest host filling in for our boy Tim Poole. He is out of the hospital. He's just got a hair transplant. So next time you guys see him, he's going to have a full head of hair. I know it's been a while, but that hair, you know, it takes a minute.
Starting point is 00:02:30 So Tim's going to be looking like a superstar very shortly. But before we get into this tonight show, we got a very special guest. We got, you know, some crazy women, some smart women, some beautiful women. I do want to shout out casprue.com. Go support the Pimp on a Blump and Tim Poole and the whole entire crew here, Serge Phil, the guys that work so hard, and go buy a little bit of this American-made coffee. None of that Chinese bull crap that probably has fint on it that's going to give you some sort of heart, you know, murmur. that stuff's not good but we got the cleanest, purest, strongest coffee made this side of the
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Starting point is 00:03:30 And now, you know, Tim's got the independent logo back. You know, that was a big news story. So if you guys really want to support Tim and you'd love skating, definitely go to boonieshq.com. All right, with all that being said, we got a wonderful panel. Can we introduce everybody here? We got the one, the only. Libby Emmons. Libby, how are you doing this evening?
Starting point is 00:03:48 I'm good, Alex. How's it going? Are you nervous that I'm hosting because I know Tim's scared to death? No. Okay. I think you're going to be awesome. I have my tug friendly. I'm rooting for you.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I have my tug friendly on underneath this. I'm going to whip it off. Oh, that's awesome. I love that stunt from you. I'm Libby Emmons. I'm here from the Postmillennial and Human Events. com. Glad to be here.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Hey, Libby. I'm Karras. Keras, Keras, Raya. Born and what do you do? California. I shower every day. No, no. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:04:18 You have the Israel flag. Do you work for Benjamin Netanyahu? Let's be clear. You know. What do you do? Who do you work for? And what do you got going on, Keras? I'm former producer at Epoch Times and Newsmax, and now I'm sitting on my couch every
Starting point is 00:04:33 day and writing a book. We love that. Okay. And now we have Jamie, Jamie Reed, author, whistleblower. What's going on, Jamie? Tell us about yourself. Hi. Thank you so much for having me.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Yeah. I'm Jamie Reed. I'm a whistleblower from a pediatric transgender center. So this has been a really heavy week and have been being asked. lots of questions to kind of weigh in with my expertise what I know about these kids who are being transitioned, yes, from Missouri, shut down that clinic, then shut down all of those clinics in Missouri, moved on and have been testifying across the country to try to get pediatric transitions banned across the U.S.
Starting point is 00:05:15 We love that. The show me state, but do not show me those messed up genital mutilation that you got going on. We don't want to show us that. Okay, you know who we always have here, surge on the ones or twos, but Phil LeBonte, you know he's a badass lead singer, and he's freaking, he's jacked up, Phil. And when I'm next to you, I feel a little, you just make me feel an overflow of testosterone. Yeah, I don't know. As I'm saying, I'm about to start taking TRT because of you know, the full beard is back, and that's probably why. And you're vascular. How do you get jacked up like that? A lot of cardio, honestly. Hello, everybody. My name is Philobonte. I'm the lead singer, the heavy metal band, All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary, and I'm here to keep Alex Stein in line. That's a fact. He's not, he's going to succeed because, listen, we love Tim. I know Phil loves Tim. We're not going to say anything to be even considered terms of service. So we just want to say the vaccine is safe and effective, and we encourage everybody to get it.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And our FK was wrong. They do not cause any side effects whatsoever. Okay, so with all that being said, let's get into the first story of the evening. It's a story we've all heard. We're kind of tired of hearing, but there's different angles coming out. And of course, we're talking about the transgender shooter that shot up the Catholic Church of Minneapolis. Now, obviously, this story is incredibly sad. I'm not patting myself on the back when I say this, but I did speak at a recent state
Starting point is 00:06:31 Senate hearing in Texas, and I got absolutely buried by the trans community because I made a joke about transgender being good for the military because they like to do mass shootings, and if the rate of suicide is so high, we could use them, like the Taliban uses suicide bombers. And I got absolutely buried, but less than two weeks from that speech. They hated him because he spoke the truth. I spoke the truth and I didn't like this. I don't like that I'm clairvoyant and these things are happening.
Starting point is 00:06:55 So I guess my first person I want to direct it to do is, Jamie, you speak at these Senate hearings. You go around to Missouri and all these other states and speak at them. Why don't they understand that this problem is really prevalent and that these people are suicidal and that serious stuff's happening? Oh, wow. You want the history on how we got here? I mean, how prevalent is it?
Starting point is 00:07:12 Because I said this at a state Senate hearing and it happened. And even before that, it was two days after the hearing. It was a story in the UK where a train conductor was misgendered and they threw themselves in front of a train. So I was right after I said it. And then I was sadly extra right about the suicide and the trans. I think we've seen upwards of a 5,000 percent increase in individuals identifying as trans in the young people population. It's close to 3 percent by some estimates. So yes, of course, we're going to see huge numbers of issues in the public when you have that large of a percentage of our population identifying into something that is really.
Starting point is 00:07:50 rooted in a lot of mental illness. Yeah, I mean, obviously we have a serious mental illness problem, but I think you saw Charlie Kirk, everybody talks about, it's not rude for us to figure out if this shooter was on SSRI. So where does the, you know, overmedication come into this? Keras, I think you were talking about that earlier, right? Yeah, it could come into play, especially because the fact that a lot of these young kids are being medicated with drugs that have never been tested in cross-examination with
Starting point is 00:08:20 each other. Like when you're on a cocktail of more than two drugs, there's just absolutely no way to know what kind of side effects those are going to produce, right? They haven't done any of those clinical trials. So yeah, I think that's really dangerous when you have a whole generation that has grown up economically shortchanged, obsessed with screens, getting all of their romantic, quote unquote, needs or sexual needs met through porn or Snapchat or social media. And then so obviously they're all going to be anxious and depressed because they're not really functioning in real life and going outside and having human to human interaction. And so then they're going to all be put on all this medication and that is just going to inevitably
Starting point is 00:09:03 make things worse for them because you got into this like prescription cascade they call. Well, I just want to say this quick statement. Howard Stern famously got canceled for saying during the Columbine shootings that if these kids would have just gotten laid, they might not have done this. But you kind of made that same argument right there. Did you not? By looking at the pornography and stuff, the fact that these kids are on, line looking at all this demonic stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Maybe if they went out and actually got laid, they wouldn't be school shooters. Well, I mean, let's take it what we want. Isn't that what you joked? Isn't that what you said? We want these kids to have real life experience. Yeah. And so there was something about art, I don't know what your generation is, but going to the mall, sneaking the cigarette, hanging out with your friends, you know, doing things
Starting point is 00:09:41 in real life, having those risk behaviors in real life and learning the consequences with your social peers and your group is actually how you become. an adult. You're not going to learn how to become an adult by sitting behind a screen. The only way you are is by having your peers say, dude, you just did something that was ridiculous. I'm not, you know, I'm not hanging out with you right now. Like, you learn how to adult through social pressure and the real way to do that is in real life. Right. It's not just getting up. I just have to say, I don't think my message to, to would be mass shooters is go out and get laid. I think that might be like my, that might be like my, like, fourth
Starting point is 00:10:20 message to them. You're not not saying, right? You're not saying it, but you're not not saying it. I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it. But you went to the porn thing, so I'm saying like, you know, maybe if these guys went out there and they didn't have access to all this porn and they had to actually get it from a chick, maybe they'd be a little more suave, a little more self-aware, and less likely to do something like this. I'm not saying you said that, but you kind of
Starting point is 00:10:38 insinuated that. But Phil, am I crazy for you? Fair enough. Not for that. Okay. I'm crazy for other stuff. Yes. But I think there's other stuff going on when we look at, um, this is something I've been thinking. about right because we hear an awful lot about how we need more mental health care for people and I have a lot of questions about what exactly mental health care is and what it does and what
Starting point is 00:11:02 use it really is I don't know about you guys I've been to a therapist a couple times in my life like different times that I've had questions and I'm like I'm not going to bore my friends about this for a year and a half I'm going to go talk to somebody and figure it out and then you solve your problem and you move on right but you have people who are in therapy for years and years and years and then they have a psychologist who they talk to, and they have a psychiatrist who prescribes them, but they don't talk to. Or you have a clinic,
Starting point is 00:11:26 and then you see somebody else every other week or something like that, and it's sort of confusing and difficult. A lot of the mental health is like either outpatient or inpatient drug treatment, right? So you have a lot of this stuff going on. And I had an interesting conversation. Just bear with me for a second. At Turning Point, a couple of years ago, I was doing a panel, and this woman asked a question,
Starting point is 00:11:48 that I found absolutely fascinating because we were talking about God and religion and what place faith has in your life. And she said, how do you find faith if you don't know what it is and no one's ever told you about it? She said, my generation, which is, you know, substantially younger than me, like Gen Z or whatever, she said, my generation, when we have problems, we're told that it's a mental health thing and to go talk to a therapist and then we're given drugs about it. And then we're given drugs about it. And so so much of the attention of mental health turns you and your problems in on yourself. And you're not looking outside like you were saying, Jamie. You're not looking to friends. You're not looking to other experiences, even to sex, as you know, Karras and
Starting point is 00:12:32 Alex were discussing. You're not looking to other things. You're just turning everything in on yourself. And in on yourself is sort of a wasteland, right? Like, we are not God. It's because the mental health model has transformed into an industry. history. Right. Basically. And so they don't want to cure you. Exactly. It's it's business. The more you'll sit there and talk about your problems, right? And it's it's kind of become in some ways a very narcissistic oriented pursuit, right? Instead of teaching people to maybe be more focused on service, right? Or helping others. Or it's it's all about me, me, me and trying to figure out, you know, what, why I'm anxious and what happened in my childhood and who can I blame and things
Starting point is 00:13:20 like that. I mean, Abigail Schreier wrote a whole book about this. Fascinating book. Yeah. But there's amazing people like Lauren Delano and Cooper Davis and stuff that are trying to create different models for mental health, things like peer-to-peer mental health. Because I think like, as you guys were saying, like it was, you know, back in the day, people actually relied on their family or their pastors or their community and there were certainly crazy people back in the old days there was lizzie borden you know there's crazy people but i was her for Halloween one year but there's a point i want to make when it comes to mental health and i mean maybe phil won't agree with me but we actually do have a cure to mental health it's called diet and exercise and literally people that actually do diet
Starting point is 00:13:59 and exercise their mental health improves dramatically so there are cures other than just taking a pill you know SSRIs and and that's one application that no doctors ever prescribed i mean maybe some homeopathic doctors, but that's the problem is that people are over-medicated. And of course people do have depression, but you can literally fix that with regular exercise and eating a diet. To your point, I wouldn't not in excess, because even those things
Starting point is 00:14:22 you can end up getting... You can get psych about you. You should add one more, it's diet, exercise and sleep. Yeah, and sleep. Oh, course. I mean, sleep is just as important as exercise. There is an adolescent study that showed if you could get these kids to actually get enough sleep, their depression and anxiety actually did. Okay, but if you
Starting point is 00:14:38 diet, you exercise and you're getting sleep and then you spend all the rest of your time on Snapchat and Tumblr and TikTok I don't know if that will really hold on home this is this the whole topic is a little bit more nuanced than just than just as simple as exercise I think it's a whole
Starting point is 00:14:53 confluence of factors yeah I'm a big proponent of going to the gym and exercising you can tell it's important thank you very much I mean it's important for your mental health it's just as important but there are genuinely very ill people yes that medication does help if you're if you're schizophrenic going to gym isn't going to help. You need to actually talk to a doctor. And I'm only saying this
Starting point is 00:15:14 because there is a certain, there's almost an idea that people have that if you're depressed or if you feel some kind of mental illness pressure or whatever, just go to the gym that will not solve it. But if all you're feeling like is, oh, I'm tired and I'm kind of bummed out, going to the gym and getting a good night's sleep a couple nights in a row will probably solve your problem. It's almost super annoying. It's like chronic or something. It's super annoying how helpful it is to work out. Like, I hate it so much. It was mad that they worked out.
Starting point is 00:15:44 No, but like I, I literally, I hate exercise. I hate working out, and I do it every day, and I hate it. And then afterwards, I'm like, God damn it. I feel better. But these kids, especially these kids who have this trans identification, though, this is, they're beyond some of this, because they have literally beaten to their brain that they ruminate on their own. dress. They become stuck in this cycle of it's just rumination, rumination, rumination. And for some of
Starting point is 00:16:16 them, I think we have completely created a culture of mental health, though, too, where you go to school, even in kindergarten now, and the first thing you're being always asked is to check in on your emotions and, you know, where are you at and what are you feeling today? And it's not that service. It's not like, what have you done today? Like, how can you help someone else? It's just ruminating on your own psyche. Yeah, there's not enough the way to do it. There's not enough inside of us to sustain life. But with the trans thing, what is the illness? You need other people. You need other activities. You need community. With trans people, though, what is the illness? It's gender dysphoria. No. You don't think so. What do you think? Do you think it's real? Do you think trans is real?
Starting point is 00:17:00 No. I think it's a manifestation of other things. It used to be where you... It's a culture bouncing. You don't think it's a mental illness? Well, it used to be where like if someone had some kind of body image, body dysmorphia, whatever, they would be anorexic or bulimic and stuff. I think that modern transgenderism in women tends to be a manifestation. But you know about bigorexia where people want to be super big? Sure. So people have body dysmorphia of every kind. They want to be big.
Starting point is 00:17:25 They want to be small. They want to be a boy. The number of people that are that are bulimic and anorexic today is significantly smaller than it was 30 years ago. Is that true? Is that true? Yeah. I think that, and I think a lot of it is because the manifestation of
Starting point is 00:17:38 body dysmorphia nowadays is not about whether they are large enough or small enough or skinny enough or whatever. It's they feel like they're in the wrong body. Also people are like the whole idea of being overweight is not stigmatized anymore. And also when it comes to men I think that when it's
Starting point is 00:17:54 when it comes to men that are transgender that say they're transgender and want to be women. I think a lot of that is on auto gunnophilia personally. I think there's a lot of that as well. Wait, I was in definitely a kink thing. What were you going to say about that Jamie? I don't know that there is anything that's truly trans. Yes, there is gender dysphoria still in the DSM-5. There is a checklist that has like
Starting point is 00:18:17 nine criteria. And if you meet six out of those nine criteria, you can fall into this category of having gender dysphoria. Most of the doctors in this country do not care if you even meet that criteria. This has truly become an identification. If you say you're trans, you can be transitioned at basically any age. That's ridiculous that these doctors will just do it. And then they tell the parent that the kid is going to harm himself if they don't do it. So you think it's, you know, if the kid doesn't affirm their new gender that they're going to, you know, take their own life, which is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:18:51 But how much blame do you think that the doctors have versus the parents? Because I think it's the parents that are probably causing a lot of these kids to be so confused. I think they take a lot of responsibility for even letting their kid like this trans shooter. So the younger the kid is, the more I would say it's a parental issue. So if you have a three-year-old that's claiming that they are trans, that is a parent issue. Or not even just non-binary or something like that. But often, you know, you have these two different categories of parent, though.
Starting point is 00:19:19 There are some parents who see their gender non-conforming kid. The kids that truly are just gender non-conforming, most of them will grow up to be gay. The parents who freak out about that, there's those parents, and then there's the parents who want a trans kid. Yeah. It gives them social credit. for trans kids. Like a Charlie's Theron? I think Megan Fox has one, sorry.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I actually, I might be wrong. I actually think Megan Fox is letting her kid just be gender non-conforming. That's still weird. It's weird that any kid would be thinking about. I'm saying, I can see like that's more, that's nicer, but it's like you're a boy or your girl. You have a vagina or a penis. You're a boy or your girl, but for people that grow up to be gay adults, many of us just are very masculine. little girls or very feminine
Starting point is 00:20:10 little boys. Yeah. Tomboys are sissy. Yeah, but being gay and being transgender are two different things. I know there's overlap a lot, but they are different. No. I mean, yes, no. So if you look... Jamie's saying that the whole trans social contagion
Starting point is 00:20:26 is actually like a racing gainess because a lot of these people, because of the social pressures, are immediately labeled trans because they are non-conforming in some way, when in reality, they're just gay. but because people are telling them they're trans, they're like, oh, I must be trans.
Starting point is 00:20:41 But if you're saying that you don't know your gender and you're non-conforming or whatever, you're trans. I mean, that is, I'm sorry. Like, that is true. By not picking a gender, it's just the same as saying you're the opposite gender. So, take the word gender out.
Starting point is 00:20:54 You don't know. Yes, you do. You know your gender. You have a penis or vagina. Wait, wait, you're not going to gaslight me. You know you're no. Unless you're born intersex. No, no, I'm not saying you don't know your gender,
Starting point is 00:21:03 but you don't necessarily know when you're that young if you're gay or not, right? Like you're kind of confused. Yeah, but who cares if you're gay? There's lesbians and there's gay. I mean, that doesn't make you the opposite sex if you're a homo. No, but for a lot of gay adults, remember that when we were kids, we knew we were different. We knew we didn't fit in.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And the way that we knew we didn't fit in is what we refer to as gender. I thought I was supposed to be a boy. I'm just a lesbian. Yes. I thought I was supposed to have a penis for a lot of years when I was. was little. I didn't understand why I wasn't a boy. I just knew that I understood that I had this difference that was keeping me separate from my peers. And what we now see in retrospect is homosexuality got taken out of the DSM. Did it? It's out. Oh, yeah. Homosexuality has been out
Starting point is 00:21:58 since 79. What do they call it? Oh, it's just not a disorder. It's not a disorder. It's not a mental disorder. It's not a I would argue that it is because a lot of people that are gay have had sexual trauma as a young person. I think it's like 70% were you, did you ever have anything traumatic in your childhood? Besides like being a crazy tomboy and getting hurt. Yeah, like you didn't have sexual. 70% is that true? Look it up, Serge, look it up at how many people that are gay identified of being sexually abused. It's something really high.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And I do think, you know, correlation does, you know, causation does mean, relation doesn't mean causation or whatever the saying is like if there's a bunch of people that got sexually abused and then later in life they say that they're gay and there's a pattern like I think that there could be it's like nature versus nurture if you got abused I think it's more likely going to be sexually confused in somebody that didn't get abused okay so let me say this I think we would all agree that no child should experience sexual abuse so if we work as a society to reduce that occurrence and we see a reduction in the number of adults to identify or say that they are gays and lesbians later. Your hypothesis might be true. Look at this. Look at this. A new study led by researchers at Vanderbilt, one of the best universities in the country, found that 83% of lesbian, gay, bisexual and queer individuals reported going through adverse childhood experiences such as sexual or emotional abuse. 83%. Emotional abuse is very different than sexual.
Starting point is 00:23:22 But that's still a form. You can still like emotionally, there's a lot of overlap. So can we pivot for a minute, though? Yeah. Okay. So does my homosexuality lead to me needing to have my body parts cut off being put on a hormonal treatment being correct so if we have to think about as a society we can accept that there are some people who are gay lesbians homosexuals who need no medication for that don't really bother you in any way and I also what kind of medication do you be gay you shouldn't need any but my homosexuality doesn't ask anything of you does it ask anything of you that's the difference that's the difference with trans if i trans asks of you to do something it asks of you to change well i would argue that you being a lesbian asked something on me because like if i hit on you you know it would be misconstrued as if you were straight so it kind of is i'm just saying a lesbian you do kind of have to change a little bit than if you're a heterosexual why would i care if you hit on me well it's just i don't know it's just i'm just
Starting point is 00:24:30 saying there are instances where you'd maybe treat a gay person different than a straight woman I think that. You would hit on a lesbian in a different way than a straight woman? No, I'm saying, well, in a way, yeah, because it's harder to turn. I've turned a lot. But my point is, being gay and being trans kind of does ask something of me. It's like if I go to a gay wedding, how am I supposed to not laugh at two girls? Okay, but I think we just won't invite you to the weddings and you can stay home and you don't have to bake us a case.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Jamie is saying that when you're trans, you're like you're requiring somebody to to recognize. you as something as something different than you are versus if you're a lesbian or you're gay nobody would even necessarily know that because it's not it's a sexual preference it's not an identity right well that's why i don't understand that the pride flag being in elementary schools because all sexuality is when you look at the pride flag is just celebrating who you have sex with so we're going to we're going to agree on so many of those things there's absolutely no reason why pride flag needs to be in an element or even in the high school yeah in any school and it's school. There's no need for anything like that. When I think about what do I need from my kids' school
Starting point is 00:25:38 as a lesbian with children, the only thing I need is that when we have a teacher, parent teacher meeting, my partner gets to come. That doesn't seem like too much to ask. Yeah, that would be insane. I don't need you, I don't need you to teach the whole classroom about gay penguins. Well, even Snoop Dogg got mad at the, in the latest Pixar movie that two couples that had a baby were two women. I don't know if you saw that story, but it was very bad. Yeah, that was interesting. But the issue right now with... He's also married to his childhood sweetheart, which I think is...
Starting point is 00:26:12 What's this story? Snoop Dogg... Snoop is married to his childhood sweetheart. He's been married this whole time. Yeah, he took his nephew to a movie, and in the movie, two women have a baby in the most recent Pixar movie, which is a kid's movie. And the nephew was like, how they have a baby. And even Snoop Dog was like, man, this doesn't make an exam, man. I'm gay as hell. And yeah, so if Snoop Dogg's noticing, you know, it says, lot. I get it. But what I just want to bring it back to is really for so many of us who are adult
Starting point is 00:26:38 case and lesbians, we see trans is homophobic. That's because it is. Yes. Yeah, because a lot of the trans too are these Caitlin Jenner trans where they still like women. So what are you, Caitlin Jenner. You nailed what Caitlin Jenner. Caitlin Jenner is autogynophilia. Autogynophilia. That's exactly what it is. You know, do you know that it was, oh, sorry, go ahead. I was just going to say it's, it's not only homophobic, but it's actually guilty of the exact thing. that it wants to, that it claims to be against, which is gender stereotypes and traditional male-female roles. Is this still too woke?
Starting point is 00:27:13 No, you can do that. It's completely good at that because it relies on those gender stereotypes in order to be trans. Like, you know, if you end up being a tomboy, if you end up playing, if you're a girl and you play with trucks, somebody's like, oh, you're trans, right? But that's just a stereotype of, you know, of boys because they play with tracks. Like, it's just, it's completely binary and it's just hypocritical. Do you know that it was Kim Kardashian who discovered Bruce Jenner cross-dressing? Yeah, and had to tell her mom.
Starting point is 00:27:43 The bedroom, yeah. Yeah, and said that she would have rather he was like screwing somebody else than that he was like wearing her mother's clothes. Well, no shite. Yeah, she was super freaked out by it. She was like, oh, now I've told my mom this. But could you imagine if she came out talking about that within the past few years, she would have been shamed into non-existence for being like,
Starting point is 00:28:02 I didn't immediately affirm my stepfather wearing my mother's panties, you know? Yeah. Well, it is weird that that Caitlin Jenner still likes girls. It's like, why not just stay a guy and bang girls? Girls would probably like that better. The girls would like it better. He would like it better. I mean, but, you know, he's on all those hormones wrecking into people and causing, you know, fatal accidents.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Phil, anything you want to say before we change the topic? I know it's a very lighthearted topic. No, let's change the topic soon. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Okay, what do we got next? what's going on Amazon is in hot water
Starting point is 00:28:34 for selling a trans extremist shirts calling for violence Oh it's the same topic To protect Well we'll just run through this but look at this It's funny though they wear this t-shirt And I you know The predictive programming of me
Starting point is 00:28:48 But look at this predictive programming They kind of put this into the ecosystem Into our zeitgeist into our you know Collective Conscious And now When I first saw that like That t-shirt on social media I actually thought it was a parody.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Like I thought it was a conservative that was making fun. Like a shirt I would sell. Yeah, exactly. I can't believe that that is actually... It's worth noting that that's the lieutenant governor. That's the lieutenant governor of Minnesota. The lieutenant governor of Minnesota
Starting point is 00:29:15 is wearing a shirt that is glorifying violence. Can you bring it back up for one second? Just because I want to make sure that I'm saying, that's saying protect trans kids, which I refuse to even accept the argument that there are trans. kids. Yeah. Okay. What is the flower? What is that? Is that, was that
Starting point is 00:29:34 just to balance out the knife or does that have some sort of like simple? I think they had an AR-15 and they're like we should put a flower there. But the fact that the the lieutenant governor is glorifying violence in favor of mutilating children. Right. Like destroying children's lives. This is
Starting point is 00:29:52 the society that we live in has been so absolutely decimated by the LGBTQ QIA groups, it is absolutely awful what has been done to the United States because... Don't forget the two-spirit. Oh, yeah. I mean, the whole nine.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Like, I personally reject the concept of gender. You are either male or female. There is no gender. Gender is a made-up thing that is, I mean, and at the end of the day, what it boils down to, the only way that people can explain it is it is your sexual spirit. it and it's it's something that you should be teaching to kids you shouldn't go they they killed god they said we have no soul and then they replaced it with gender and gender is all about worshiping yourself and turning yourself into god and saying that you know there's nothing bigger than you that
Starting point is 00:30:44 everything in the world revolves around you and that's why we have these trans violence t-shirts right because what we have is a situation where people feel that if you don't acknowledge their fantasy, they get to hurt you. And we've seen this. This is not new. This has been going back for a while. There was an exhibit in 2018 at the San Francisco Public Library that had a whole exhibit about punch a turf. And the turf was a common term, right? Turf was a term that was used to denigrate liberal women. Trans exclusionary radical families. Right. To denigrate liberal women who did not think men can become women. And they had this whole exhibit, punch a turf. And then they said turfs are Nazis. And then they said, you can punch Nazis. That means you can punch
Starting point is 00:31:29 turfs. And that means you can punch anybody who doesn't agree with your fantasy of what's going on in the world and with yourself. And so that's how we got here. You get to hurt people apparently who disagree with your fantasy. And we also saw in 2023 as several states were bringing into effect laws saying you can't sex change your children. And this was this was considered violence by the trans community. So you had a whole advocacy situation of trans people and like LGBTQIA plus, etc. groups getting together to learn how to use firearms to defend themselves against states that don't want to trans kids. And this appeared on covers of magazines like the Eugene Weekly in Oregon. And it appeared on t-shirts and people were masking up wearing the t-shirts,
Starting point is 00:32:22 It's going out to protest and hurting women, like attacking women. Look what happened to Kelly J. Keene in, was it Australia or New Zealand? She was out there. They threw ketchup on her? And they, yeah, they attacked her. I was out at a protest. It was ketchup, though. They attacked her a couple times, but they threw a bunch of ketchup on her.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And that girl got charged, I think, and actually got in much of trouble for the catching. Yeah. And then there were, I mean, I remember going out and protesting in New York and people coming up to me and screaming Nazi in my face. Yeah. Just because I know the difference between male and feelings. female. Well, to your point, though, there is a, I think there is, like, a more sinister thing, like you talked about hiding the existence of God, and that a lot of this trans stuff is actually, you know, I'm a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theories. I love that about you. But it's,
Starting point is 00:33:05 a lot of it comes to with population reduction. Like, they want us making less kids. Like, they want, and as soon as they give a child, you know, hormones, it's going to stunt their, you know, puberty, it's going to stunt their reproductive organs, and it's just going to make it where people have atrophied penis. I literally, I know a guy that has one. It's, you know, detransitioner. So there's a little more sinister stuff at play. They want to hide the existence of God and they want to make us eunuch so we can't procreate. But with all that being said, we'll get back. Oh, you just say your point, please, Jamie. One more thing about the Amazon shirts, though. Yes. Like, you're saying this is in the cultural zeitgeist, but one of the problems is we cannot get in there
Starting point is 00:33:41 to start messing with the messaging. Why not? Why can't we so? So I have an org, LGBT Courage Coalition. We have tried to find drop ship companies to produce our shirts. We wanted to make sure it stopped trans and gay kids could not find a drop ship company to produce it. Really? Nobody will pick up the other side messaging. Nobody will, even if we just put LGBT, we can't get drop ship companies to print. Gays against groomers have had the same thing. They've been kicked off of times.
Starting point is 00:34:11 It's not hard to find an American-A distributor. I mean, I believe it. So we finally found one. I think we live in a capitalist country. You would think there's somebody would sell. We finally found one. they are the ones that also print things for the polygamists, Mormons, and that's the company. I mean, hey, listen.
Starting point is 00:34:28 That's the company that I think is going to let us make some shirts. You've got five wives. You need a lot of shirts, you know what I mean? All right, guys. So what's going on in New York City, I think, is very alarming. I know that we have a Jewish-American princess sitting across from me, and she's probably very threatened. But maybe this is good news because Mom Donny does not recognize Israel as a country. and he is now currently in second place, according to the most recent Tolchin research poll.
Starting point is 00:34:56 So I guess I want to start with the person that is probably most likely to be a target of Mom Donnie's legislation. Keras, what do you think about a socialist terrorist, dare I say, your opinion of him probably, becoming the mayor of New York City? I live in D.C. Yeah, but you're Jewish, so he doesn't recognize you. you think that's right he doesn't recognize her don't not look at me like I'm stupid you know that he does not recognize
Starting point is 00:35:22 Israel as a country no no no I'm gonna get mad because Karas is so annoying she's one of the most annoying people because she's like she acts like she doesn't know what's going on like oh mom Donnie doesn't like Israel you're sitting there I'm like
Starting point is 00:35:32 you didn't even have me finish it just so don't play so dumb it's like you know that mom Dani doesn't like Israel and you're sitting here like oh wait does he not like us he didn't even hear what I was going to say oh I'm from DC so I guess maybe I would like mom don't know each other outside
Starting point is 00:35:46 You guys have met. This is the first time you met. Wait, Phil, no, no, because I get frustrated because I talk about why he is a threat to Jewish people. And then your answer is, well, I don't know. I live in D.C., so I guess they don't have an opinion on it. Well, I live in Texas. What is your opinion? Does he, do you like him the fact that he doesn't believe that your people have a right to exist?
Starting point is 00:36:06 What is your opinion on it other than you live in D.C.? I'm just a little more long-winded than you, Alex. It takes a while to like it. Well, get it out of here. The show's only two hours. This isn't the damn Talmud with 10,000 pages. Let's get the show on the road. Wait, I'm a big fan of filibustering.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Well, say something then. You're literally having to say jack shit. I absolutely do not support him. But all I was going to say in response to what you said was that if I was a Jew who hated Israel, he absolutely would support me. And those are the people that he essentially leans on to gain credibility with the New York Jews, right? The fringe groups like the Jewish Voice for Peace or the Jews for Rachel and Economic
Starting point is 00:36:41 Justice, all of whom are funded by the way by like, you know, that, that Chinese guy, Neville, the guy who lives in China, Neville, Singham, whatever, and Soros. He did lose them. Yeah, Mondani lost the black vote too. I'm not surprised. He got the creative class.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I don't believe a lot of blacks vote. No, I think Mom Donny is a significant threat to conservative Jews, both political and religiously conservative Jews, but I also think he's just an absolute threat to the to New York City as a thriving metropolis. I mean, you're going to, he literally says he doesn't believe billionaires should exist.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I mean, you're going to have capital. You're going to have, like, companies have already announced that they will leave New York. I mean, it's going to be an absolute disaster in every single way. We saw what happened in Kansas when they try to open, like, city-run grocery stores. So I think the threat here, there's no doubt we could talk about the threat to Jews. and as a Jewish-American princess myself, there's nothing I would enjoy more than that. But I think that this threat is so much bigger than that.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I mean, and it sucks that, I mean, you were saying, wait, is this the article that talks about how Cuomo is like the only possible chance of success? Yes. If Eric Adams and Curtis LeWa drop out, I mean, yeah, that's a shame. I mean, you know, Cuomo, I was in New York City during the pandemic, and Cuomo was an absolute disaster. But I also had been following Mom Donnie prior to this when he was on city council.
Starting point is 00:38:17 And I, you know, it really sucks to have to choose the last year of. I thought he was just in the assembly. Or in the assembly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, thanks for correcting me. But I remember because he was such, he was such a radical during that time that even like the circles I ran him ran and were aware of his name. And so it's really awful to have to pick between the lesser of two evils.
Starting point is 00:38:40 But like when I'm thinking about, you know, the success of a city that I lived in for 18 years, like the continuing success, I got to go with Cuomo, right? Devil's advocate, though. Mondab. Mom Donnie. Mom Donnie.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Mom Donnie. Gets into office. He just demonstrates to all of us that socialism doesn't work in running a city. I mean, doesn't it just... No, but the response to that isn't going to be... People aren't going to say, oh, socialism doesn't work. the response is always it didn't it didn't work this time we need to do more there's a much better issue there's a much better issue there's a best thing for trump the last
Starting point is 00:39:20 four years of joe biden sucking d helped trump i mean that's actually my dad this is my dad's argument my dad is is is less scared about mom donnie because he thinks that that will be the like ground zero for new york it will be the tipping point where things it'll be like It's shockingly naive perspective. I disagree. Because look at socialist policies that have been implemented in the United States, whether you like them or not, right? Socialist policies that have been implemented. Medicare, welfare, Social Security, things that FDR implemented, which were essentially sort of more socialist than capitalist, right?
Starting point is 00:39:58 A lot of social safety net stuff, not saying I'm opposed to it. I'm saying you can't get rid of it once you have it. You can't get rid of it. You can't get rid of free school lunches now. Right? Whether you want to or not, you can't get rid of it. And once you have all of these programs baked into New York City, you're not going to be able to pull them out again. Right, because it's part of a bureaucracist. It's part of a massive bureaucracy and it consumes itself.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Let me jump in with one thing real quick. And it's self-perpetuating. The bumper sticker that you can vote yourself into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out is absolutely true. It is not just a tagline. It is true. It is almost universally true. when you look around the world and you look at the history
Starting point is 00:40:40 of socialist countries. That's exactly right. Search has an opinion on socialist countries. You said it's really bad in South Africa, right? You said it's very bad. I like how you copy brown as was drinking for the one moment on the podcast here. But yeah, it's bad.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Any socialist policy ultimately fails. Like central planning is bad, period. You can't centrally plan from one part of the country for the other part of the country and think that you'll be able to make effective legislating for those people. Is cheap medicine that? You can go to Singapore for cheap medicine, and that place doesn't have socialism.
Starting point is 00:41:12 It's very capitalistic, so. There's also ways of cutting medication in a privatized system. Well, speaking of medication, Mom Dani really went viral this week for struggling to do 135 pounds on the bench press. Now, I know Phil is an avid bench presser, maybe a testosterone user won't admit it, maybe, but do you think if Mom Dany got on a little test, maybe a little wind straw, maybe a little Dinah Ball, maybe a little, you know, Codian kicker. I don't know what the boys are taking this day and age.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Can you see this video? Yeah, they can see it. Mamdani needs trembling. No, look at this. This is pathetic. And he's spotted the whole time the guy's doing all the lifting, and he's such a fraud. And this is one of the reasons that his poll numbers takes off his jacket. Did he know if that's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:41:58 No. That's the one saving grace is he was actually leading up this. He was like, no, no, no, no. And he was kind of stuck. He kind of had to. You never have to lift That's just 145 on each side
Starting point is 00:42:11 which is heavy but it's not that heavy 35 pounds on each side 1305 pounds This is like the bare minimum Like at the NFL Combine I don't know if he's that tall But this is about what he weighs He's probably about 135 140
Starting point is 00:42:26 Oh Okay He needed help to lift him He might be 150 but you know what I mean Look at that Oh Hey baby This is good
Starting point is 00:42:35 For two It is sort of, it is sort of too bad, isn't it? It's worth noting that Riley Gaines responded to this video with, she put up 165 for five. I was going to say, I think I could easily do this. She's impressive and pregnant. Yeah. I mean. Is she pregnant currently?
Starting point is 00:42:49 Yeah. Yeah, the baby strength. Is she? Yeah. So. I think she knows it at turning five. If Mom Donnie wins, though, the, the, the one ray of hope in my mind is Stefanic, possibly winning, because she has a very good chance of becoming governor. and I think that if that happens, I like that she'll, I like her, yeah, and I think that she'll be
Starting point is 00:43:12 able to stonewall Mom Donnie in a lot of ways that he would otherwise be able to get through, because I think that will be a huge mission for her once she becomes governor. You know, this is not a joke. One of Mom Donny's big campaign policies, I'm not even kidding, you can look this up, is that when he becomes mayor, halal prices will go down because in New York, they're only allowed to issue 571 vendor permits. And so a lot of the people that try to get into that halal business have to pay... You mean like the food trucks?
Starting point is 00:43:42 The food truck business. They had to buy it on the black market. And so he says when he becomes mayor, he's going to immediately make 500 approved vendors and the prices of halal will go down because they'll be able to... You see, like he's talking about the halal salation. Are they only going to let the halal trucks, the halal food that are... Well, I'm sure you don't probably necessarily need to cook halal food, but this is a big part of his... There's plenty of halal.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I know, but you can probably cook wings. You can probably make all kinds of plant base, whatever. Sure. I'm just saying there's tons of halal trucks in New York City. Yeah, I'm never really, I'm, you're never at a loss, you know? The price is going to go down. The price is going to go down now. So this is why New York is going to be saved because now people are going to be able to get a little Baba Ginoosh for about $2 cheaper. They don't have Baba Ginoosh at those trucks.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Some of them have Babi Ginoosh. I've gotten Boba Gnish. They have chicken and rice with some rice. I'm not going to do this right now and have another Boba Gnush debate because I'm already losing it over there with that Jewish American princess. So let's just talk about how we've already talked enough about this Pritzker thing, but he did make a line. We didn't talk about Pritzker at all.
Starting point is 00:44:42 No, but we talked about the trans stuff, excuse me, but we can talk about the other stuff. Oh, my gosh. Okay, Pritzker now is saying that he's setting up a hotline where transgender people can get legal advice on how to change their name and affirm their gender. Libby, you seem passionate about this. Why is this phone line not being prank called 24-7 into oblivion? Well, it just started, so. Go ahead, take it away, Jane.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Start the prank calling. We should call it right now. Let's do it right now. Well, maybe we don't encourage that. This is a joke. We're in Minecraft because I don't want them to do us or something. You go to the website called 4chan and you post that. That's what you do.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Do this. And then my favorite Pritzker moment this week was when he was talking about how great Chicago is and Trump should come there. And then the cameraman panned up and he was right next to Trump Tower. Yeah. It was great. That was a really good video. Yeah. I could see more of that.
Starting point is 00:45:28 I could see that all day. Well, and, you know, when you look at Chicago, is such a great city. But the crime is bad. But this is where I'm kind of worried, though. You see cities like Chicago. Then you see this, you know, martial law, the federalization of the military in D.C. Like, I'm kind of worried that that could be used in places like Chicago.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Then they're going to come to Austin. Then they're going to come to Dallas. And all of a sudden, I can't go to McDonald's unless I showed them my vaccine card. So I'm kind of worried about that. I didn't like that either. No. So, like, the federalization of the military to become. police in D.C. sounds good on paper, but
Starting point is 00:46:05 it could be Well, D.C. is different because they have, there's laws in D.C. that's federal government can federalize it. And that makes sense because, you know, it is not a state. It's not even really a city. It's a district. And so the federal government can have control over it. It was only, what, in the 70s that the home rule,
Starting point is 00:46:23 was it 73 maybe, that the home rule law passed in D.C. allowing them to, like, be in charge of their own stuff. Who used to be in charge of Capitol Police? No, the Congress. Congress used to be in charge. Wow. That's why they did so much kid dittling and stuff like that. Congress used to be in charge of running D.C.
Starting point is 00:46:40 So it hasn't been... That's touching kids. You know, a lot of them are... A lot of them, they went on this island called Little St. James with this guy named Jeffrey, and he was a hell of a business man. He started off as a elementary school, high school teacher, and became one of the richest men in the world.
Starting point is 00:46:57 And he had three passports from Israel. That was just coincidence. So a question, though, like Baltimore, didn't they say, they would take the federal... Yeah, Westmore. Like Westmore said... They need it. Have you been to Baltimore recently?
Starting point is 00:47:08 It's not good. Nobody should go to Boston. No. It used to be a good place. You'd go there and get a damn crab cake and you'd go in the wharf and you could take your family there. Now it looks like a damn
Starting point is 00:47:16 a freak off. You used to be worth going down to watch the Orioles play the Red Sox because you could never get tickets to Fenway because Fenway is so small, but the Baltimore Stadium is significantly bigger. You could jump on a flight from Hartford or from Boston down to Baltimore. You don't want to do that anymore.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I know. And it's a great city like Baltimore, right outside of D.C. It should be a classic city. It's dangerous. But then that's a slippery slope. You know, you put the federal military over there. It's like the federal government, should they be in charge of policing the citizens? Because this is where I get worried too. I go to D.C. I call AOC a big booty Latina. I go and I confront Eric Swalwell about sleeping with, you know, Fang, and I go and I get in these
Starting point is 00:47:56 politicians' faces. And I know that a federal military, political, political, police officer, I don't even know what the proper terminology is, is going to have more leeway when it comes to kind of jamming me up, looking at my idea, potentially handcuffing me. He's going to be held probably to a much lesser standard than a capital police officer or a local police officer. So I'm just, I can see where this can. I'm an old school anarchists.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Like, I'm totally not one that, like, thinks that we need the military in all of these cities. But why would the Baltimore mayor, what's the deal? Like, why can't they just clean up their own city? Because they won't. They just refuse to put people in jail. Their bridges are collapsing. The problem isn't just that they don't arrest people or that they're not arresting enough people. It's that the DA and the judges don't prosecute and actually put people in jail.
Starting point is 00:48:45 This is a conversation that we've been having around the table here for the past couple of weeks because of the National Guard in D.C. If the DA refuses to put people in jail. But the National Guard can arrest somebody, but if it's the DA and the prosecutor, you're still going to have the same problem, Martin. I think the National Guard can't arrest anybody. So what's going on is that when Trump talks about bringing the National Guard in, like when he did in Los Angeles, right? He brings the National Guard in, in L.A., to protect immigration and customs enforcement. So ICE officers were out there going out into the community arresting people because they have to, because that's the only way you can arrest people, because law enforcement in California will not cooperate with federal agents. Do they send him the big booty Latino?
Starting point is 00:49:31 pictures to say who. They all got to go. It's a very simple thing. It's a very simple thing. Mostly they've been arresting, like, child molesters and stuff. You know, a lot of people who have already have criminal convictions. It's a lot of people who are getting arrested. But the, so the National Guard can't do that.
Starting point is 00:49:49 They can just support what's there. They can, like, stand around. It's kind of like, you know, in New York City, Kathy Hochel put 250 National Guard troops on the subways. and everybody in media, all the leftists, everyone cheered for her, putting 250 National Guard troops on the subways because subway murders were up so much and attacks on, you know, conductors and everybody were up so high. So that's what she did. I'm pretty sure they're still out there. No one's bitching at her about having, you know, taking control of the city and put National Guard troops on.
Starting point is 00:50:22 But as soon as Trump says things like, let's protect black people in this country in inner cities, let's stop that kind of. of crime and homicide. Because who's getting murdered in D.C.? It's mostly young black people get murdered in D.C. It's like, yeah, I mean, D.C. is like 46% black. So it's not like, that's just, that's the nature of the city. Like, why is it a problem to go protect our young people in this country? Their lives are so valuable. They should be kept safe from this kind of crime and, like, the cartels and drug crime and all the rest of it. But I, that's mostly what it's doing. But let's be real.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I mean, who's the crime, young black people shooting other young black people, especially in the D.C. Sure, so put a stop to it. That's why you haven't had murders in D.C. Which is good, right? They put a curfew on the Navy Yard. It's like, what is it, 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. or something is the curfew in the Navy Yard?
Starting point is 00:51:15 Whatever, you just can't walk around without a parent, which is probably very good. That seems like a really good idea. I mean, I wouldn't let my kid walk around the Navy yard without a parent after 8 p.m. either. Hey. And if crime is down, then it is good. And, but I'm just saying it's a lot of a culture issue, especially Baltimore, you know, predominantly African American and the culture there as young people are getting their hands on guns. And not enough good guys have guns to shoot back. Okay. Well, listen, we've been talking a lot about dang Baltimore, talking about the federalization of all these cops. So let's talk about what everybody wants to hear about. Taxes, tariffs, Trump's
Starting point is 00:51:49 tariffs. He's making news. They're saying, U.S. Appeals Court is saying the tariffs are not legal. Now, I kind of am, I kind of don't like tariffs. I don't like taxes. I understand this is a negotiation tactic to, you know, make everybody, I guess, play fairly when it comes to our geopolitical trades. But at the end of the day, if it is illegal, like, what the hell? What do you guys think? I guess I'll start with Phil. What do you think about these tariffs are illegal? Are they good or bad? Tariffs overall. I think that they're good if they're targeted. I don't think overall just general tariffs are good as long as there's an income tax. There was a time when tariffs were used to fund the government before the income tax. But if you have just a broad-based tariff, generally the American people tend to pay that, right? The cost of goods goes up because of the tariffs. The people that are receiving the merchandise pay the tariffs and then they increase the cost when they and they pass that cost. increase onto the people. So if you get rid of the income tax, tariffs may be a way to supplement it. I don't know that I have a strong preference. As for if there's, you know, if there's benefit from Trump's tariffs now, I think they've worked out fairly well so far, but it also. 30 billion dollars last year. Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying that, no, hold on, I'm not saying that there hasn't been money coming in, but that money has, I think that money has largely come from the American people paying
Starting point is 00:53:14 that. So it's just a tax increase at the off. I mean like the importer. No, well, the importers take it in and then they pass that cost onto the consumers. They also, they pay it. No. Yes, they pay it, but then they pay that initially.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Then they increase the cost of the goods and services that are being used. But we haven't seen a lot of inflation. There has been some inflation. Inflation is not gone. Gas is down like an incredible amount. But this is a big argument. Libby, hold on, Libby, hold on.
Starting point is 00:53:42 There has been some inflation. I'm paying you back. Did you see that that Twitter person like screaming at you for a interrupting. But all I was trying to, but I was trying to get you to expand on your idea. But anyways, the point being, there has been some inflation, not significant and not bad inflation, but there has been some. And that, and it looks like that will continue. But it's not going to be like the 10% that we had when, when Biden was in office, because it's a
Starting point is 00:54:06 totally different context. But the, the actual price does get paid, passed off to the American people. I bought 100 green dildos on Amazon, and it was three times a place. Did you throw them at the women's NBA? didn't throw anything, but I'm part of a discord group that I've not thrown any. Are they ever green that got thrown on? They were all green. We do that on purpose. So we were all green. Sorry, I heard about it, but I didn't bother that. So the price of plastics through the roof, but you know, we're not going to stop throwing them. I mean, I'm not, I'm not part of that, but people are not going to stop. I honestly think that this tariff thing is so much
Starting point is 00:54:39 bigger than trade. And that's why I fully support it. And I fully support Trump using it as a negotiating tool in areas that are apart from trade, like foreign policy, national security. I think it's a national security issue. I think we've been under this illusion of this like, yeah, it's like libertarian in the sense that it's based on free market and capitalism, but it's also leftist, this illusion of free trade in the sense that it's like very utopian because it ignores the fact that it only works if people play by the rules. And when you have a country like China, that is not playing by any of the rules,
Starting point is 00:55:14 and we have literally gutted our entire domestic industrial base and ceded it over to our greatest adversary who's now producing like over 80% of our generic medicines, then this does become a national security issue. And the only thing that you can do in order to bring back manufacturing and industry to America is to have these targeted tariffs. And I agree that they should be a temporary measure. And I agree that there could even be some downsides short term.
Starting point is 00:55:46 But whenever you're trying to do like a massive overhaul like this, like, I mean, some people are going to get hurt. Look what Trump's trying to do with the gutting the bureaucracy. Like, people get fired. People lose their jobs. It's horrible. It's a horrible thing. But I really think that it's what needs. It's the only thing that really can bring back like America as a like flourishing, like manufacturing base.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Well, Trump says the February tariffs against China and Canada and Mexico were appropriate because those countries were not doing enough to stop the illegal fentanyl trade from crossing the United States borders. So I guess, Libby, you love fentanyl. What do you think? Did these taxes help your fentanyl connection dry up? Or what is it? How is your fentanyl connection going this day? It's been fine. Even with the taxes?
Starting point is 00:56:32 Trump says he's got the tariff. He says he's going to stop it. You can read it right there. He says the terrorists against China and Canada. I think mine might be counterfeit, you know, because I'm out here. West Virginia and so it's like sort of an Appalachian Do you have any friends in New York that are doing Fintinol?
Starting point is 00:56:46 Can you call them and ask if the price has gone out? No, all my friends in New York have children the same age as mine. Trust me, there's people with kids doing Fentanyl in New York, okay, trust me, I'm doing some right now. I got a bunch of baby mommas. What is that? I'm not opposed to the tariffs, I've got to say.
Starting point is 00:57:01 I have had a lot of fun watching Trump's negotiation style with other countries. What is that style? It's incredible. I know, but what is the style? Just do it or else, right? No, no, no. It's starting like we're going to slap like a hundred percent tariffs on you as a way for them to come to the table. And then it's incredible. People just, they show up and they and they deliver what Trump wants. And then Trump's like, okay, 30 percent. It's amazing. There's a lot to be said about the influence that the United States has. And I think that Barack Obama and Joe Biden were afraid to use the soft power that the United States has. Because you know what it is? They were spending a lot of money on the state.
Starting point is 00:57:39 soft power. They were, you know, creating trans comic books in Peru and sending condoms all over the world and providing abortions in Rwanda. But they weren't actually taking advantage. You're right of what that soft power would do. One thing that Obama did and Biden did a similar thing is they would come to the table saying, okay, we're going to negotiate with you. So we'll give up these things. And then the other side would be like, okay, now that's baseline, you idiot, you know. And Trump gives up nothing. Trump's just like, we're going to take everything. We're going to rule the world and you know if you're lucky you get some crumbs but i also think i also think trump is incredibly fair about about this i don't think he's i don't no i don't think he's over i think he's doing
Starting point is 00:58:22 an awesome job for america i don't really care how he's doing for the rest of the world amen well no but i think that he wants he wants good he wants good relationships with other countries and that that that implies that that there has to be some sort of mutual benefit to yeah he brings them to the white house gift shop he gives them a trump 2028 hat and everybody's hat. So, Libby, I like how you're kind of upping the ante and how you're sliding trans and every single topic. So I'm going to like
Starting point is 00:58:47 try to keep pace with you here. You did. Transcomic books. I apologize. Oh, yeah. You haven't the one thing about what this news story headline actually was is that the courts are trying to say that his tariffs are illegal. And one of the things that I do
Starting point is 00:59:03 keep seeing happen over and over and over again is the courts keep jamming up every single thing that's been tried. The Epstein files, the judge did not let the Epstein files. And they won't let that out. Sorry, but even the executive orders that I really supported, every single one of them has been jammed up in the courts.
Starting point is 00:59:21 So part of the problems with these things is we can't actually see, you know, what could come of it because the courts often are what's stopping things. So I'm not against Trump's any of the actions that Trump has taken. I think that it's fine that he's trying all these things. But it is worth noting that Congress is supposed to actually. actually be the ones that decide whether or not there are tariffs or not. So legitimately, like, it's constitutional for Congress to do it. Technically, it's unconstitutional for Trump to do it.
Starting point is 00:59:48 So that's why he gets jammed up sometimes. But again, I'm not against him trying this stuff. But by the letter of the Constitution, it is supposed to be Congress that does it. But Congress doesn't like to do its job. Congress loves to. Wasn't it EPA versus the West Virginia a couple of years ago? And West Virginia was like, we're not going to do what you say EPA because you don't actually have any control over us.
Starting point is 01:00:09 And it ended up in the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court was like, yeah, EPA wants to do all of this stuff. They say that they have the power to do it because they were created by Congress. But Congress is the one that has to legislate all of this. And Congress is like, no, we don't want to get that. We just want to go on some more junkets. We want to take August off. I mean, doesn't, if they hold the purse strings and if they have the power, are you guys saying?
Starting point is 01:00:33 They don't want to. They gave up so much power in the George Bush. their voters. If you can go as a Congress person. They have to what? Then they have to face their voters. They have to go to their voters and say, I voted yes on this, I voted no on this. Congress doesn't want to do that. They don't want to ever have to take responsibility. It's much easier and better for the individual Congress people
Starting point is 01:00:50 to pass it off to a bureaucratic agency. Let the bureaucrats take it because they don't have to be voted for. They just get appointed and then they when a new administration comes in they get a cushy job somewhere on K Street or something like that. And then when a a friendly administration comes back in
Starting point is 01:01:07 they go back into the administration. It's easier that way for both the people in Congress and the bureaucrats. It's a great deal. Nobody gets voted out of audience. The only one who gets screwed are the voters. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Jasmine Crockett works her ass off, so do not. She's making the podcast circuit. She's getting her nails did. I know. And she's got her new eyelashes. So trust me, there are some politicians that are really... He also has new hair. Grinding. You know, I guess my personal opinion,
Starting point is 01:01:31 when I look at this, there are some I guess legal loopholes that Trump tries. you use that probably aren't necessarily legal, but I think he does have America's best interests, so I probably don't necessarily disagree with him. But I don't think there are loopholes so much as he is testing the norms, and he's testing some laws, right? But he's really testing norms because a lot of things that you see the Democrats and leftists
Starting point is 01:01:53 getting upset about saying that Trump is destroying democracy, what they're really saying is he's not doing things the way that we've done them for the past 20 years. He's doing them differently. and even though it's not illegal, it's different and we don't like it. And this is the same batch of people who keep screaming every four years about how they want change, but they don't actually know what they want to change from what into what. They just know that they don't want Trump. And that's where they're at.
Starting point is 01:02:21 And so what I think is most interesting about all of these court decisions that keep coming up, this appellate court now, what is this federal circuit? You have, you know, the appellate courts all over the country striking down. Venezuelans getting deported, striking down, you know, the elimination of TPS, which is so stupid. And that's because at the end of Biden's term, he prematurely extended it for a whole other term, which, you know what that is? That's breaking norms, everybody. That's not what you're supposed to do. But what I think is interesting, when we were talking about this pre-show, is the courts don't actually have any power. They just say stuff. They have no enforcement mechanism. And so I wonder how far
Starting point is 01:02:58 Can the courts push their stupidity and demanding that people like Kilmar Obrigo Garcia get come back or like you can't deport people to Uganda even though Uganda was like, what, send them in? You know, just pay us. Like, what happens when the courts go too far and everyone's like, screw you?
Starting point is 01:03:16 This goes to a point that I was making the other night. There is only so much that the president can do if he doesn't have the support, the popular support of the people. And exactly, but if he has the popular support to the people. The president can get away with a ton of stuff. And this has been demonstrated on both sides of the aisle.
Starting point is 01:03:35 But like if Obama got away with the ton of stuff. And George Bush got away with the Patriot Act. The president has great power that he can exercise as long as he has people that agree. And I was making this point to Mary and I forget who else. I forget who else what it was, but they were like
Starting point is 01:03:50 he should do more to deport people and blah, blah, blah. And the argument I was making is it's bad to have ICE grabbing grandma a woman. and grandpa and throwing them into cruisers to take them off because that makes Karen upset and Karen goes out in the street and she yells at ice people and then you get videos that Karen took and she puts up these videos on on Facebook and on Instagram and then popular support starts to diminish so it's better to not have to use
Starting point is 01:04:19 ice to grab people off the street and throw them into vans to to deport them It's better to make it difficult for people that are here illegally to stay. Make it difficult for them to find housing. Make it difficult for them to keep their jobs. Take away the $3,000 a month. Absolutely. Have your apartment in Springfield. But the point that I'm making is he can do things.
Starting point is 01:04:38 The president can do things as long as he has support. But things that are bad optically will lose support. But when it comes to things that are, you know, whether or not it's constitutional, that's really a gray area as long as he has popular support. Is there a way that we can, like, I've heard certain political appointees in the Trump administration say that what the district courts are doing involving themselves in these federal affairs is actually illegal. If that's the case, then are there practical steps that can be taken other than ignoring their rulings? No, there's not.
Starting point is 01:05:18 That's the reason we're never going to find it out about Jeffrey I've seen because he was probably connected to intelligence, not just for. America, but probably for Israel. And so when they have classified levels of information and judges can protect it and, you know, even a president can't veto that, you know? You're like the big control ever. No, I'm being honest. I'm just saying there are, there's the classified levels of information that Donald Trump cannot expose.
Starting point is 01:05:37 It's actually a crime for him to expose certain classified levels of information. So, I'm not 100% sure about that. Libby, wasn't there? So you're saying there's nothing. The president has discretion to decide what is or is not class. I'm saying. He's the presidential records. I guess this, I guess my question would be more for like a legal, like some,
Starting point is 01:05:54 wants to? Like a legal matter? It's the presidential record act. He can take whatever he wants. I was just wondering if there's any practical step. Non-classified. I was just wondering if there's any practical steps, though, that can be taken against the district court? I think, so, hold on. Libby, wasn't there a case that was just decided
Starting point is 01:06:09 by the Supreme Court that said that these nationwide injunctions are not constitutional? Yes, that what case was that? It was about the 14th Amendment, about whether or not people that are born here are actually citizens. Oh, that's right. It was birthright. It was birthright. And so, yeah, so the court was saying that, the court was saying that for the individual cases, the individual people, the moms who brought the case and said, my baby gets to be a citizen, those cases are separate. You can't make a decision on those cases and have it apply to everybody. But what was interesting about that is under the Biden administration, when you had, I think it was Moms for Liberty and some other groups brought cases about some education stuff. They got to,
Starting point is 01:06:53 a nationwide injunction and it had to stop across the country. So was it Title IX? I think it might have been Title IX stuff. I'm not sure, but I know. I don't remember. But yeah, they said no nationwide injunctions, which the ACL you got mad about because they really wanted to just bring one case and have it apply to everybody. And now they're back to having to bring individual cases in every jurisdiction where there's, you know, an illegal immigrant who wants their baby to be an American. Yeah. Well, guys, we're talked about a lot tonight, but I want to talk about a subject that is very serious, something I'm very passionate about, air travel. I flew up here. I flew to D.C. And sadly, this year, there was a very famous collision that happened with a military helicopter and an American
Starting point is 01:07:34 airline's passenger airline that crashed right here in D.C. arguably, you know, a first world city, but we can't even get our planes to land without crashing into each other. But sadly, we see that there are people potentially going to use AI to help stop this. But go to the other one. This is actually, before we get into this, today, disaster averted, Southwest and Spirit Airlines nearly collided there at 30,000 feet in the air. There should be pictures. Yeah, look at the picture. Look how insane this looks. And these are two commercial planes.
Starting point is 01:08:08 And this is the thing is a lot of these planes, they have autopilot, they put certain coordinates. How did that happen? Exactly. Was one above the other? They were right above each other. So they must have had the same coordinates in the airplane because they have special coordinates like roads that we have in street. Wait a second. Can we go back to that picture? It wasn't until you showed those pictures where it...
Starting point is 01:08:27 Yeah, it's nuts. So if I understand correctly, certain altitudes correspond with certain directions. So if you're at like 33,000 feet, you can only be going east-west. That's messed up. This one, pardon me? That's really messed up. Yeah, it's scary looking. But if you're, you know, so if you're going...
Starting point is 01:08:40 They're like highways in the sky. Yeah, so certain altitudes means you're going one direction. They have windows in the cockpit. I couldn't hear you. Sorry, I'm sorry. What did you say? What did you say? I said, how come they couldn't.
Starting point is 01:08:52 see each other don't they have windows in the cockpit i mean look the you don't really have a window that's looking up or down you've been in you've seen what the cockpits look at you're really reliant on you know and i was a kid and i used to fly back and forth between my parents in boston and new york sometimes the pilot would let me look in the cockpit and he'd give me a little set of wings yeah and those are like it's kind of narrow little yeah you know nobody gives you shit about that well we do give you shit about it i give a sliding like nobody gives you shit everybody's gotten stupid plastic wings in the plane no no they haven't i want to answer your question The question is they can't see. They don't have a rearview mirror. Sometimes in like the 737 they have cameras, which can look all around them. But the point is to what Phil was saying is like they have special coordinates at certain elevations. They have to go in certain directions. So this can only happen if their coordinates are together. So that's why AI, this is why this is a bigger issue because they should have not, the computer should have never been set to where this could even be possible because it's incredibly dangerous. And we've already had an aviation disaster where two people collided and a bunch of people dying.
Starting point is 01:09:52 a bunch of, like, near misses. They say not to fly into Newark, New York, the Newark, New Jersey, that there's ex-workers that literally said that. They're aviation workers, and they said they would not fly into Newark, New Jersey, if their life depended on it. But there's also people that Boeing whistleblower said that he went in the, you know, new Boeing factory in Seattle when they made the 737 Max A Jet, and there's actually hidden camera, Project Veritas-style interviews where people are like, man, I wouldn't fly on this
Starting point is 01:10:19 plane, I wouldn't fly on this plane. Yeah, well, I suggested that other article because my first. friend wrote it recently and sent it to me, the one about AI, and it was so interesting because it was saying how, like, most of these near misses or even accidents are the problem of human error and air traffic controllers, which are now very understaffed and very overworked. And that's why this conversation about AI is becoming more and more prominent. But there's a lot of, like, as much as AI can apparently help with being able to spot certain things ahead of time. Apparently, it's very limited when it comes to unpredictable situations, like things that
Starting point is 01:11:00 are not on historical flight maps or anything like that. And so there's also a lot of questions. And it also, people also wonder if using AI, because you'll have to do it in conjunction with actual, like, analog and human, like, you're going to have to have a human always controlling that. And the question is, is whether having that AI is going to make air traffic controllers let their guard down even more than they are and be over-reliant on the technology. So there's just a lot of, like, up-in-the-air questions. And people who are in this industry have, I mean, the article is so interesting because different people just have such opposite. opinions on it in the industry, but very, like, firm opinions, like, either pro or against
Starting point is 01:11:50 the AI elements of it. Well, I mean, obviously, there could be backdoors. Maybe it could be hacked. Maybe it could be used, like you said, where people get too reliant on it, and they get lazy because, like, there's Uber-Each drivers that have been driving in the same city for five years, and they don't even know where they're at because they're so reliant on these apps and AI. So, yeah, I think it is very dangerous.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Jamie, do you fly a lot? You said you fly to all these states. Are you worried about getting in an accident? I wasn't until now. You should be. It's horrible. lot of near misses really terrifying and the pilots are all crazy too a lot of them are on all kinds of stuff well there's a guy that just at southwest airlines just got a pilot got
Starting point is 01:12:23 arrested for DUI trying to fly a plane drunk um did he really yeah just happened here pulled up yeah it happened like less than a month ago yeah so some of the jimmy door thing like jimmy door right here was in a plane i saw this uh he mentioned how it apparently they were like within 500 feet of each other like 14 100 and 14 yeah i remember this exactly right Honestly, my flight today into D.C., I thought there was something wrong at the end because it was just back and forth. See, that's what it does going. Did you fly into Reagan? Reagan has such a weird thing where you have to do all those turns. I was motion sick in the plane.
Starting point is 01:12:55 A lot of people get sick flying under Reagan because they make you make those hard turns. But this is where I get worried about aviation. Like the Max 8 plane, that's the Boeing plane where the whistleblower was talking about. That was having a computer issue where the pilots were just totally fine. And the plane would just start nosediving. And a couple of the pilots weren't able to correct in time. So it's like, there's also an argument to be made that DEI has caused that because they're using cheap Indian coders to make this, you know, software for Boeing.
Starting point is 01:13:19 And I don't know if that's necessarily true, but it's weird that the highest technology, the computer is what's messing up. Oh, that is weird. That's what I'm saying with these Boeing planes. It's like they can't even write the code right. So I don't. Wait, but I thought Indians were like the best coders. They say that, but they lie.
Starting point is 01:13:36 They're the best lying on their resumes. Actually, right now AI is the best coder. Yeah, AI is, yeah. Like, AI can write code better than any human. But then imagine they use, you know, AI code, and there is a hiccup in there, and it's because they use AI to do it, you know, there's just always a possibility, like the Max 8 Jets that had this. Right now, AI is a tool.
Starting point is 01:13:55 It works best as a tool for something that has a person in the beginning and a person check the work. So you have someone that's really good at coding. AI makes them insanely good at coding. You get someone that's good at, you know, it's essentially just a tool, right? AI has been a terrible tool in what I do, though. As an advocate and, like, working on the T-issue, I mean, we cannot use any of these, at least the chat, the Google Gemini. Like, they're all totally language captured. Like, I can't even ask.
Starting point is 01:14:29 You're saying it's woke? You can't even get real. Oh, no. It, like, will straight up tell me, like, you're being a transphobic. Well, GROC turned into Nazi GROC because of people like. Well, a big problem is that the AI. as it exists now, is being trained on woke, liberal, leftist media and content. So these AI companies don't see a reason to train their LLMs on conservative media like
Starting point is 01:14:56 the Post-Mennel or, you know, the New York Post. They just don't do it. And so you have like, you have like AI advocates who are conservative trying to advocate for these companies to not. be regurgitation machines for leftist ideology and it's really been tough for them to get that through and that's not just it's not just chat gpt it i mean grok too right i mean it's not it literally have to say to it no but i mean it would affect other areas and aviation it affects what i do i go into chat gpt so you it feeds you lies i say do you remember who i am and no
Starting point is 01:15:36 it will it's not going to remember who you are well it'll say things like oh yes you're a whistleblower um one time it replied to me it said yes i know that you never want me to refer to anyone as mix as an honorarium mx it was like you told me that that's off limits but it'll slide you know it just it makes stuff up i mean you also have the problem of someone introduced me on a podcast uh last week and they just i was like do you want a bio and they were like no no no i use ai and then they just read it it was totally wrong It's totally wrong. It lies.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Like, they've done AI where they asked it, like, who won the 1974 World Series? And it's like, the Texas Rangers versus this and that the Rangers weren't even a team. But you're telling me that it can't even find that out, but I'm supposed to trust it to fly the plane. Well, it's funny you say that. I mean, look, so you're talking about different technologies, right? An LLM is not the same thing. Language learning model. A large language model is not the same thing as, like, say, your chess game, right?
Starting point is 01:16:38 chess is, when you play against the computer, you're playing against an artificial intelligence. Yeah, it's like we haven't found a cure for the common call, but we can, we can perform the most, you know, intimate spinal surgeries, whatever. It's different. Yeah, it's different things. And so like when you're talking about like, so for instance, we use this, this example all the time, the testless full self-driving is artificial intelligence. And it, it is a totally different type of artificial intelligence than a large language model. It's taking, it's actually identifying things. in the world, it uses cameras to see the same way that humans do, and it identifies things, and it can actually drive. Now, I've got a Tesla, and I just drove out to Loudoun County today. The entire way was full self-driving. The entire way back was full self-driving. There's one time that I had to turn it off because it doesn't, for some reason, it doesn't like toll booths. It just wants to keep going through them. But for the most part, other than a toll booth, it was perfectly fine. There's something so interesting to me in that. So you're telling me that it was.
Starting point is 01:17:38 works when it's having to recognize the reality around it and operate within reality. But language is all about control. And part of the problem I have with it is it wants to control our language. I understand what you're saying. But when you use the, when you use the word it, you're specifying all you're not specifying which one. You're talking about AI as all of them. All of AI is it. Right. And it's not a full self-driving. algorithm or the AI in full self-driving is a totally different machine, totally different algorithm, totally different thing from a large language model. We use this phrase AI as a blanket term and it's not really functional anymore. The way that AI is, the way that these technologies
Starting point is 01:18:26 are evolving, it's not, it's not correct to say AI is all the same. Large language models are not the same as full self-driving, which are not the same as the AIs that will generate video or audio, it's not the same as, you know, there are all these different types of AI. And what people tend to think is all the A.I is kind of going towards what you would call AGI, which is artificial general intelligence. And you're not really, they're not really 100% sure, or there's differing opinions on whether or not AGI will ever actually be a thing. Well, regardless, the problem with, and obviously you heard Phil talk about how he was in his test line, he didn't have to do anything. And the problem there is that there are some negative side effects.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Like they're saying that these pilots that rely on AI are not able to basically handle a stressful situation because they don't have any experience because they're always on autopilot. And I think that's when we talk about the negative side effects. That's one of the major ones because we don't, you know. You were trying to talk about taxi drivers earlier. There's actually research studies that showed like old school taxi drivers. like the parts of their brain that had to, yeah, that was mapping the city around them was actually You had to challenge your brain to make it remember things. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:42 You have to. I find that even just moving here to D.C., and it's like I haven't even learned the roads because I'm just so reliant on GPS when I drive. Yeah, you never will. It's D.C. You're never going to. Yeah, you're never going to. But I mean, you know, if you move to a new city and you don't have GPS, you're actually forced to use that
Starting point is 01:20:02 part of your brain everybody has GPS though spatial awareness I know but it's kind of sad I mean even like I remember you just had to print it out and you'd have Map class remember you make a wrong turn and you'd be totally screwed
Starting point is 01:20:14 you'd have to like pull into a gas station you would do entire tours so from one venue to the next venue for a whole month mapped all out the whole we had the big binder you'd go on tour I used to do I used to just have a map we all had the map too but you had the map
Starting point is 01:20:29 quest too because it just because it did it for you We had the map test, but our parents, that is so fucking annoying. You're going to be, you're going to map shame us. Like, I didn't need map because, you know, I'm so smart. I read books. Have you ever heard of a map? Yeah, Libby, we know what a map is.
Starting point is 01:20:43 We had maps too. We just liked it because he gave us point by the directions. Like, Libby, you're not cool. You know what I had in my car? She's so much better than everyone. I didn't even have a car. Oh shit, Sherlock had a map. Everybody had a map back then.
Starting point is 01:20:56 We didn't have GPS. Sorry, I'm getting mad, but I didn't have a car. I didn't have a car. What good was the math? There's the map. You're walking around with the giant map? That's crazy. While you were walking.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Okay. Oh, okay. So you're in your mom's car. So you were in a car. Once again, you're gas lining us. You were in a car. You're like, I didn't have a car. But you were using the money.
Starting point is 01:21:14 In a car. Your mom's car. You're fun. I know, because I'm hot. I get hot and we've got all these women in here. And I just can't handle it. You can't handle the hotness. I don't want to repeal the 19th Amendment.
Starting point is 01:21:29 I still think you brought should be able to vote for some weird. reason? Just you three, though. No, no. Y'all are low on the totem pole. You shouldn't vote. The chat is saying, why does she have an Israeli flag bigger than the American flag? And I think I agree with that. She's two American flag. Watch them clip that.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Watch them clip me. She has three American things. They should clip it. It's four American things and one Oh, yeah, no. I have the four USA. Yeah. Yeah, but it's smaller than the Israel flag. Yeah, because they didn't have a big, I got them all at the same place and they didn't have a big, uh, um,
Starting point is 01:22:01 USA one. As long as you don't have a progress pride flag, you're fine with me. Now, I think some people would find that flag more offensive than a project. Some people would. I don't mind that. Do you think that, this is a good topic. What do you guys think about? And now you guys already covered it. But I think the flag burning, I really don't like it. But at the same time, if they made it illegal to burn a flag with the star of David, then I think it should be illegal to burn an American flag too. But, you know, I believe in freedom of speech. What about it being illegal to burn the progress pride flag? Is it illegal to burn the flag? Is it illegal to burn the flag? Is it illegal to burn the pride flag?
Starting point is 01:22:31 It should be a special day to burn those. And all you do is burn them. We cut out the little. Cut out the thing. I thought, no, it's just, I don't know, I'm so, I fully support the, that it's illegal to burn the American flag in America. Nope. I support it.
Starting point is 01:22:47 But I totally understand why people, like people don't, but. I would never burn an American flag, but I made the argument that the 9th Amendment covers burning the American flag. I was here for that. I don't think you should be burning stuff in public parks. I'm pretty sure burning stuff. things in parks is illegal. Yeah, but what about in your backyard?
Starting point is 01:23:04 Like, I think they're still going to say that. Yeah, but I mean, you can do whatever you want in your backyard. Can you still burn a flag in your backyard and post it on Instagram? Maybe not if it's an HOA. You know, then it's not really your house. There's no, H.O.A. I'm just saying, you're in your backyard. I don't know, I don't know what the legal ramifications are.
Starting point is 01:23:20 If you could go in your backyard and film it, is that a crime? So, so to this point about burning in your backyard or whatever, like the ninth of the map, isn't that like the right? that will the ninth amendment okay i'll explain it so the idea of whether or not you should be allowed to burn a flag or whether or not burning a flag should be a crime is one idea right whether or not you can burn something in public is a distraction from the primary talking point right or the primary discussion the discussion is not whether or not you can commit arson the discussion is not whether or not you can burn things that are not your property the discussion is whether or not it should be legal
Starting point is 01:23:58 to burn the American flag, right? That's the primary topic. As for the Ninth Amendment, the Ninth Amendment reads, the enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. So the Bill of Rights is simply a list of things that the federal government cannot do. There is no limitation in either the Constitution or the Bill of Rights on the American people, because the American people are and ought to be free. That was the opinion of the founders. You are free to do whatever you want. These things in the Bill of Rights specifically are prohibited from being legislated by the federal government.
Starting point is 01:24:40 There are things that the federal government can do, but these things we specifically said. The Ninth Amendment basically is saying, just because we didn't specifically say that the federal government can't legislate that doesn't mean that the federal government is only prohibited from legislative. those things. And the Ninth Amendment specifically says for people that would say, well, it doesn't say in the Constitution that we can't do that. The Ninth Amendment is the specific refutation to that argument. Right. If you say, show me in the Constitution where it says that we can't do that. The Ninth Amendment. The Ninth Amendment says that you can't just go ahead and pass whatever law you want. And then, furthermore, the Tenth Amendment goes on to reinforce the Ninth Amendment. So the argument that there was an argument that myself and Jack Posovic were
Starting point is 01:25:27 having. I said, you know, you have the freedom, uh, the, you know, the freedom of expression. And Jack was like, tell me where it says the freedom of expression in the, in the constitution. And you're saying the ninth amendment blanket covers all freedoms that are not specifically enumerated. Yeah. It basically says the American people are and ought to be free, which undeniably was the opinion of the founders. You can get into the minutia about what should or should not be legislated. Jack went and said, well, you know, it's, it should be the state. that would decide whether or not it should be legal to burn the national flag. And I think that that's a bit of a cop out.
Starting point is 01:26:03 That's a bit of taking an exit ramp away from the actual point. Yeah, but he was comparing it to Rowe, which I thought was interesting. Well, I would argue that we don't even have the First Amendment because in their states in Florida, like, you can't even speak ill about Israel, right? And I'm very pro-Israel, but isn't that weird that they do limit? They have hate speech laws? I think that all hate speech laws are an abomination. All hate speech laws are an abomination. You're about you have BDS, they have BDS laws.
Starting point is 01:26:28 No hate speech laws don't exist now, Kyrriss in Florida. Yes. It's Karras. Keras? No, they have BDS laws. What's that? So that basically says that a Boycott divest and thing.
Starting point is 01:26:41 So it says that if you're a business that's receiving government funds and as a business entity or an organization that's receiving government funds, you decide to boycott Israel, then the government is no longer going to fund you. Just like it doesn't fund, just like it doesn't fund, just like it's now threatening funding from you know against like universities that are like not protecting Jewish students or
Starting point is 01:27:04 not protecting women, Title IX protections and stuff like that. That's what BDS laws are and they're very strong in Florida. That's interesting. Which is bullshit because we should be able to boycott anybody we want so. You should. Yes. That doesn't mean that the government can give you funding if they don't agree with your values. So the law isn't that you
Starting point is 01:27:20 can't do it. The law is you can't get government funding if you do it. Exactly. And you and it's also and you can do it personally. but it's just about it's just whether you it's just about they said the same thing about universities you can't you know be racist against Jewish students or white students or Asian students and continue to get our funding exactly government funding but also again it doesn't apply to even individuals boycotting Israel it only applies to if you're doing business with the with the government yeah that would be crazy well we have a lot of super chats but before
Starting point is 01:27:50 we get into that I want to talk about something that is very very sad for me obviously you guys know that I'm a big booty Latina connoisseur. I know Jamie, the resident lesbian, obviously loves big booty Latinas too. Lesbians love them more than heterosexual men. It's really kryptonite for lesbian. So why Samahyak is still relevant because of lesbians. And we love lesbians. But TikTok star, 32 years young, is found dead along with her husband and her two children,
Starting point is 01:28:19 seven and 13 years old in a truck, sparking Mexican cartel murder fears. Esmeralda Ferrar Gabri, or Garabé, excuse me, and can't even read that, 32 years old, and her spouse, Roberto Gil Lacea, 36, died alongside their son, Gail, Santiago, and their daughter, Regina. Now, authorities are saying that this TikTok fashionista was shut down by the cartel linked to some sort of nefarious drug moving here in Guadalajara, Mexico. And this is why I get sad, because if she just would have had Amheria, here in America, this would not have happened. And this is why I think amnesty for Big Booty Latinas is so necessary because she was not a cartel member. She was never in the cartel.
Starting point is 01:29:06 She just happened to be blessed with some big cans and a tight. They all got to go back. And look at that. She had a facial structure of a white woman, basically, so she could have basically have white babies. So my point is, I don't want the cartel to take out all these big booty Latinas, whether in Guadalajara or they're in Washington, D.C. So I guess my point is, Phil, you don't, you don't, yeah, you don't agree with this statement, but could you imagine she would still be alive today if you would agree with
Starting point is 01:29:28 my policy of amnesty for Big Booty Latinas? And don't you feel like you're responsible for her death? You've got to break a few eggs when you're making an omelet. I don't think she applied for amnesty, though. I know, wasn't that her biggest mistake? So she probably wasn't going to get amnesty. Do you know, like most... If my laws were in place, Libby, she would have had immediate amnesty. If it was still Biden and she had identified as trans, she... Or LGBT or really anything because he had affirmative action and you definitely didn't have to wait in Mexico so maybe she had applied for amnesty
Starting point is 01:29:58 and she was stuck waiting in Mexico because of Trump but there's been serious cartel violence in Mexico lately like they keep finding heads like just severed heads along the road there were like nine students who were you know butchered to death and it's pretty bad
Starting point is 01:30:16 you know and that's why you had you have the Trump administration is going after the cartels and like seizing all this money and Mexico was like hey you're seizing all this cartel money you should give a bunch of it to us because the cartel was going to give it to them yeah the cartel was going to give it to them anyway
Starting point is 01:30:31 I mean the cartels like own judges and police departments so I don't like shine bomb wouldn't be the president if the cartel didn't say it's okay for her to be the president that's right she's been you know she makes a strong stance against Trump because Trump actually will go after the cartels
Starting point is 01:30:47 and she has to say those things whether or not she actually would do anything to try to prevent the United States. She's a progressive, right? Isn't she? I mean, her name Shinebaum. You know, you know, it's unique about her? She actually, coming to this election.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Don't quote me on it, but I believe there was 57 presidential candidates that were assassinated in the most recent election. I don't know if it was 56, excuse me, that's why I said. I don't know if it was all president. I know there were some, but I don't know if all 37 were presidential candidates. I think they were other governmental. Yeah, they were people that were going to be in the government. And then the first Jewish woman that started to run, they stopped killing the presidential nominees. I wonder if there's any correlation
Starting point is 01:31:23 with that. I don't I'm sorry I wasn't listening. Did the Mossad get her elected? Shinebaum? Yeah. Elected by Mossad? Yeah. Do they protect her? I don't actually think there's an international cabal. Like yes, because she's the only Jewish president in Mexico's history. Duh. How thick are you sometimes? Why else would you make that connection?
Starting point is 01:31:46 Do you think she works for Mossad? No. Is she Israeli government? Was she on Epstein's island. Was she with Bill Clinton? Jeffrey Epstein didn't work for Massad. Oh, come on. You think anybody who works for Massad is going to wear a shirt that says I work for Massad? Do you know who Galane Maxwell is that thing? You're
Starting point is 01:32:02 so smart. Do you know who Galane Maxwell is? Do you know who Galane Maxwell's father is? What? Robert Maxwell. You know when Robert Maxwell died? You know what kind of funeral they gave him? Tell me more from the Groyper's. Tell me more from Candace Owens. Please, please. It's not from Canada's Owens. See, this is why this is a broad
Starting point is 01:32:20 so stupid because this is just open, this is just open information. No, it's not, it's not from Candace. No, it's not from Candace because when Robert Maxwell died, he was never in the Israeli military, but he got the same. Let me go back to when you were talking about the map. Shut up, shut up. Let me finish talking. Of course, she's going to use her Jewish magic to try to cancel me. Listen, no, no, no, no, let me finish what I'm saying. Galane Maxwell's dad, Robert Maxwell, when he died and he fell off a boat in a very weird way. So when he died, he got an official Israeli IDF Heroes funeral. the funeral that only a certain person
Starting point is 01:32:52 that even lost their life in the line of battle. What is that Esmeralda Farmer Galbrae? Was she involved at all with the government? No, listen, you're not trying to derail me from this. I'm trying to talk about serious stuff. Because nobody cares. You say, no, because I have idiots like you that say, oh, there's no connection to Jeffrey Epstein and Mossadry.
Starting point is 01:33:09 But look at how emotional you are, Alan. Shut your mouth for two seconds. You just shut up. This is the thing. Yeah, because I get mad because she's lying. Let me tell you something. Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, but you lie all the time and I don't get mad.
Starting point is 01:33:19 Maxwell. Listen, Jeff, this is. not a lie. Jeffrey Epstein works with, let me finish my point. So I can be calm. Elaine Maxwell, her father, works for Israel. She is now currently in prison for sex trafficking children. Her connection to her father is directly connected to Mossad. Now people like you are going to lie and say that there's no connection. You know what that means? But when you look at Jeffrey Epstein and you can look this up, when they did a search of his house, they found that he didn't just have an American passport. He also had an Israeli passport. So if you really do not think that he was not
Starting point is 01:33:49 connected with our intelligent agencies and the intelligence agencies of the woman that he was working with to sexually trafficked kids whose father has so much evidence that he was part of Israeli's Mossad agency. You're the liar. You're the one that's not connecting the dots when it's so obvious. So I get frustrated when you just sit there and lie and say there's no connection to massage. I said he didn't work for Mossad. You don't know that. You have no idea. You don't know that he does. Well, there's a lot of dots that are connected, and I know that there's classified levels of information that we're not getting. Yes, but he's also been connected to other intelligence agencies. Yeah, the CIA. And also, he wasn't incredibly, he was part of the political
Starting point is 01:34:27 class. He was the elites. And there's a whole political, and there's a whole political class in Israel, just like a deep state, just like in America. His right-hand woman's father was a very powerful and the only person that he had a connection to in Israel was Ehudu-Burach. That's his only connection. Galane Maxwell's dad is Robert Maxwell. How stupid are. are you? Do you not realize who Robert Maxwell is? And do you not know Jeffrey Epstein's connected to Galane Maxwell? Are you too stupid to put that together? Okay. No, I just don't know how stupid you are because you don't think that Gleine Maxwell and Jeffrey Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein worked together? This is what I think. I think you should
Starting point is 01:34:59 have Park McDougold on from Tablet Magazine and I think you should litigate this. Sounds like a retard. I don't need Tablet Magazine to realize that Gleine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein worked together. You don't want to admit that because it connects all the dots and it makes Israel look bad. And then you look at people like Tom Alexandrovich, a pedophile. No, no, no, no, no. No, you can't mediate because I'm sick of liars. I'm just sick of liars. Like, you're the type of person with Tom Alexandrovish.
Starting point is 01:35:23 No, no, no, no, no, no, real quick, Jamie. You have been hurt. Hey, hey, guys, guys, let's, let's, let's just get pissed. Yeah, just bring it down, just bring it down, bring it, bring it down. That Jeffrey Epstein didn't work for Mossad. I'm lying. Yes, yeah, because you're not connecting the dots. You're trying to, it's like Tom, Alex, Alex, Alex, come on.
Starting point is 01:35:39 Why did you're so sure about this? And it makes. you so angry. Because I don't want powerful people molesting kids on airplanes. Alex. It's so much more about your
Starting point is 01:35:49 character than anything related. I'm not a shill and I'm willing to call balls and strikes. Bring it, bring the temperature down here a little bit. No, I want to raise the temperature up because we're not pussy.
Starting point is 01:35:58 No, because it's 9.30 and it's a Friday, I do give a damn. I'm passionate about this and I don't want these people out here protecting Jeffrey Epstein. I think it's a big deal that we're not protecting Jeffrey Epstein. If he didn't have any connection with a
Starting point is 01:36:10 if he didn't have a connection with an intelligence agency. Masad. Obviously, Okay, do you think, Phil? I think he probably had a lot of connections with, but in terms of Frey Epstein had a connection to, the only person he was close to was in the CIA.
Starting point is 01:36:23 If I understand correctly, he did not have a connection to Mossad or CIA. He had connection to powerful, like, wealthy people. Now, whether or not that was- Including the former Prime Minister of Israel. What was it? He was his best friend? Was at his house all the time?
Starting point is 01:36:37 I swear. So who's hanging out with the Prime Minister? Who's hanging out with a Prime Minister of the country? Hey! You're not to Joe Blow! Take it down. No, I just get so mad because you guys are just so thick. Just because we don't agree with you, chill out.
Starting point is 01:36:49 It's not that you don't have to agree with me. It's that she's saying that he's hanging out with the prime minister and you're looking at me like I'm crazy because I think that he might work for the government if he's hanging out with the prime minister. You're the one gaslighting me. I'm not the crazy. I'm not gaslighting anyone. I can't see the forest for the big tree in front of your face.
Starting point is 01:37:05 No, again, this is not gaslighting. This is straight up saying, okay, we don't see things the same way you do. That's fine. disagreement around this table is something that we take in stride. This is a very normal thing for people to disagree. We do not need to go ahead and start screaming at each other like that. It gets certain people emotional. I just get emotional because
Starting point is 01:37:26 you can't defend it. Can you defend how Benjamin Netanyahu just lied and said when Tom Alexandrovich just got arrested for doing a pedophile sting in Las Vegas that he wasn't actually arrested? Do you think that's cool that he lied about that? Protecting another pedophile? I think the fact that you tie pedophiles to Israel and not a country. I didn't do that. The pedophile that works in the Cybersecurity Division, he's the one that did it.
Starting point is 01:37:48 I'm not the one that diddle the kid. He diddled a kid. He happens to work directly for Benjamin Netanyahu. And do you think that's cool that Benjamin Netanyahu lied and said he wasn't arrested? I think if Netanyahu lied about some pedophile, then I think that he should be accountable for that lie. But without looking into some sort of accusation that you're leveling at BBN's, you're leveling at B.B. Netanyahu, who I'm not even a fan of. Like, I can't stand BB Netanyahu.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Why are you not a fan of them? And yet, well, not for the reasons you aren't. You don't even know the reasons I don't like. I don't like because he bombs hospitals with people of rescue workers trying to give aid. Yeah. I don't like that. Yeah. I mean, look, when it comes to Netanyahu, like, I know, I know the way that like the media frames Netanyahu because I've been privy to the way that they framed Trump. And Netanyahu is the same type of figure internationally like Trump was. And so I find myself having to defend this guy that I don't even like because I know
Starting point is 01:38:42 that certain things that people are saying about him is not true. But when it comes to the recent thing that just happened with the pedophile, I haven't actually cared enough to look into that, Alex. So I don't have an answer for you. And if you're telling me that he lied, and if you're telling me that he lied that he's about
Starting point is 01:38:58 that, no, because I'm busy and I just happened to not have like checked the news that day. But if it happens that you're right about that, then look at it. Look at it. Because you get so emotional about that topic, I wouldn't trust you with other stuff I would. But because this seems to be the thing. You're defending Jeffrey Epstein saying that he doesn't have any connection.
Starting point is 01:39:17 I don't think anybody thinks that I'm defending Jeffrey Epstein. The idea that there is no room for disagreement, like that is something that we don't do. No, we can disagree. We can disagree 100%. I'm just saying I'm allowed to get a little emotional about it because I feel like I'm getting gaslight. It's fair if you. We have registered your emotion. If it's, I really, I hear.
Starting point is 01:39:36 hear you. I'm so sorry you're feeling so emotional about this. Hey, I wear my heart on my sleeve I know. What do you want to say, Jamie? What do you think Israel fits in all this? Oh, I don't, that's not my, that's not my cup of tea. So you can't have an opinion on it? I just wonder like why you're not so emotional about like Sudan or Yemen or something
Starting point is 01:39:52 where the fuck do I give a shit about Sudan and Yemen. I mean, I don't see them bombing hospitals on No, what are you talking about? There's literally like there's like 87,000 children that are like being starved right now. I guess the Palestine, they just are doing such a good marketing campaign that I just can't even pay attention to Saddam because my telegram
Starting point is 01:40:08 fees. I think that you've said this entire time about Israel. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what it is because there's just not consistency there. Well, when you look at our politicians and 88% of the politicians that are currently in office are all being funded by A-PAC, I think that you can see that it's
Starting point is 01:40:24 a little bigger of a threat, A-PAC than... It's funny that you talk about A-PAC, but you don't talk about the ones being funded by the Qatar Foundation and you don't talk about the ones being funded. And you don't talk about the ones being funded by If you would think that the Qatar has more influenced than Israel, I think that you would be slow in the brain. I don't think you, yeah, okay, I think that actually, how many, how many, how many Jewish politicians is just? Actually, if you look at the, all you have to do is research it. And you, all you have to do is, is the one block. They funded some colleges. So now that they own. No, you can't go a block in D.C. That's not tainted with, with, with, with Atari money. You know, Qatar bought the, the congressional baseball game.
Starting point is 01:41:00 Okay, they donated to a baseball game, but they didn't donate. Are you trying to tell me, who has more influence on American? Tatar is the richest. country in the world. Who has more influence on American politics? Israel or Qatar? At this point in time? One hundred percent Qatar. For Obama, Israel. You are so stupid. You are literally stupid. You just don't, it's so sad because you're giving in. Maybe you think Qatar has more influence in American politics than Israel. Let me, don't jump in for a minute. Let me say something. Let me just have never even heard of the Qatar Foundation. I just, I don't think you're making a very good argument. You're in the whole thing. You just don't know, Alex. All you're turning around Because people are so obsessed with A-PAC that that's all you hear.
Starting point is 01:41:38 Do you even know about Norpak? Listen, when you look at the influence that A-PAC has, you can try to distract me from that influence. Let's talk about A-Pak. They don't even meet- They don't even meet the top 50- In terms of spending? Yes, they spend more money than A-PAC, yes.
Starting point is 01:41:59 Who's more powerful? Israel or Qatar? In politics? Yes, in everything. Qatar. Oh my. You think guitar is more powerful? Yes, and anybody who really studies this would know that. The only reason that you don't is because
Starting point is 01:42:12 you haven't looked into it because everybody talks about APAC. Let's go to super chats. You're going to have to agree to disagree. Super chats. People send messages in. I'm happy to hear from the viewers. Well, I that's fair, but normally at 940 on the last 20 minutes, we do super chats. So let's go to Super chats. Hopefully we get some Jeffrey Epstein's super chats.
Starting point is 01:42:30 All right, what do we got for a surge? Which one? Pimp on a Blimp on a Blimp, IRL, let's go. Let's close out this week with The Madman. Everyone have a great three-day weekend. Peace, dudes, dudeettes, and various tards. Thank you, Shane. We love Shane Wilder. Tim just started a family. He's still running the company in the background when he comes back. He's back. No, that's not what happened, our sergeant. He's got hair transplants, and he's about to look like a freaking movie star when he comes back. Okay, I think we saw some big super chats over on YouTube. Two dollar super chat from Yoder. There will be a hair reveal. That will be tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:43:01 You guys can see that on Rumble and YouTube on the Timcast channel. And what else do we get? Oh, $10 right here. Oh, is Destiny going to jail for CP? I don't know. What do you guys think about that? Do you think Destiny's going to jail? I don't know about jail for child porn.
Starting point is 01:43:20 He's a sex pest and he was sharing pictures of a 17-year-old, I believe, and he was sexting with a 17-year-old. Now, this guy's 35 or something like that. Yeah, 35 at the time. So, I mean, it's, you know, obviously it's some bad behavior. Whether or not he will actually get prosecuted, that, I mean, that's up to the Florida State AG. I don't know. And I don't know if there's, I don't know what, what kind. I know that there is evidence, but I don't know if there, if the AG will actually pick it up or not.
Starting point is 01:43:47 And I think that he's worried about the revenge aspect of it. I don't know if he's worried about the age aspect of it because I think he shared another nude picture of somebody to a third party. He's done, he's done it multiple times. Like, and so there was a person that he. shared nudes with or shared nudes of that she I'm not sure if she gave them to him or if they were photos that he took well he got a picture to a mutual friend I think yeah and he showed them to someone else and there's evidence that he was sexting sending illicit messages sexually oriented messages to a 17 year old a different person who a different yeah totally
Starting point is 01:44:21 different person so this is a pattern of behavior I mean I think I think the you know the state of Florida should look into it if it's a pattern of behavior if this is the kind of the stuff that does um but i don't know i can't i can't say as to whether or not the the state of florida will well well he's like the teflon dawn i think he'll get away with it uh all right guys unravel guardian long time viewer first time chatter we need to emphasize taking back of language the left are not liberals they do not believe in freedom illegals are not undocumented they are breaking uh the law i agree with you 100 percent like the left are not liberals um i do think that that battle's been lost. I don't think that you're going to be able to convince, and I think
Starting point is 01:45:01 it's been lost since the 90s. I think Rush Limbaugh did it. I think that you're not going to be able to convince conservatives that they are actually liberals. I don't think that you're going to be able to convince liberals that they are progressives. And there are progressives out there that will swear up and down that what are called liberals are just conservatives. The arguing over semantics will probably never end and you're going to have to actually judge behavior. So if you're saying, oh, I, you know, I don't think that property rights are, you know, have, take primacy. I don't think that individual rights take primacy. That's definitely an illiberal perspective. But I don't, I think that you're going to see, still going to see a lot of people that would call themselves liberals
Starting point is 01:45:45 say those type of things. You have some people? Well, I, I just think the, the concept around language is so interesting. But the thing from my advocacy line, from what what I see is that trans and other similar parallel issues have totally, like, to me, shaken up who's even in which party anymore. Like, I think that we're undergoing this massive upheaval. Basically, everybody I know are former Dems. Like, we don't even, like, we're disaffected former Dems with nowhere to even go. So to that point, would you consider yourself like a MAGA person?
Starting point is 01:46:19 I don't personally, but there are absolutely a ton of people. that I know because of trans issues and women's rights issues right now that are completely like lost. And they do talk about MAGA. So I don't even know if we have, I don't know, I don't even know that we have two parties right now. I think that it's all in flux. Who would have thought that like the granola moms that didn't want like weird food dyes in their kids' tricks would be like MAGA now? It's like all in flux. It's a big tent. Well, yeah, I mean, I guess it is a big tent, but you do see like now, though, you know, to the topic we're just kind of getting so heated about, though, the right is kind of eating its own with the woke right stuff, you know, the pro-Israel, anti-Israel stuff.
Starting point is 01:47:05 I feel like to. No, I'm just saying it's kind of causing a lot of, I mean. It's causing a lot of attention, I think. Do you want there to be a big tent, though, over on your side? Of what? Of the political party? I guess, kind of, but then you get it, like, I don't know, it's so big we want a bunch of transgender is doing weird stuff. So I don't know. The tent probably needs to say big, but not too big.
Starting point is 01:47:24 It's tough because you also have like all the Maha people, right? You have all the like RFK people who were like formal. He was on the Jeffer Epstein's playing three or four times. Who? RFK was. Yeah. Okay. But like all these people were also like former liberals, right?
Starting point is 01:47:38 Yeah. Turned MAGA. So it is tough. Like you do have this really big temp. But at what point do you assert red lines when it comes to like actual conservative values, right? One of the biggest conversations that is occurring right now, I will say, in the LGBT, is if we continue, do we continue to try to get the left and the Dems to shift on trans? Or instead, do we pivot and focus to the conservatives and get you all to adjust? I don't know if you're not y'all.
Starting point is 01:48:11 It was more like a Missouri, y'all. Proud MAGA conservative. Yeah. But I mean, or do we shift and try to focus on MAGA conservatives just saying that marriage is off the table? You mean gay marriage? Yeah. Well, I mean, it's something a lot of people are in favor of. Wait, shift to getting MAGA to support gay marriage.
Starting point is 01:48:33 Yeah. Well, the problem is that the Obergefell ruling really opened up the, it really, it is opened the, that's the Obergefell is gay marriage, the Supreme Court ruling. Under Obama? Yeah, was it under Obama? I think so. But, yeah, the problem with it is that it really opened the door to. to a lot of crazy things. Like in Somerville, polyamorous marriage marriages are recognized, Somerville, Massachusetts,
Starting point is 01:48:59 and there's other places where this is happening as well, where, you know, essentially what we used to call bigamy or polygamy and say that's bad for women, you can't do that, now is being recognized as legal in some places because of the Obergefell ruling. And I think that kind of thing is probably not great for children and also probably not great for, you know, women and civilization? Well, it's, it sort of is because anything is legal. Like any kind of marriage is legal, you can marry your pillow essentially
Starting point is 01:49:32 because of Obergefell, you know? So it opens the door to the law. It opens, listen, I'm, I marched in favor of gay marriage when it was, you know, when that was a thing to do. And I went out with my friends and did that. And we marched against the DNC and we marched against the RNC and like whatever else like. But you're saying, but what did the Supreme, the Supreme Court made it legal?
Starting point is 01:49:54 The Supreme Court made it legal in all states. Right. So that marriage has to be recognized across all states. So if you were appealed that and you'd marry just like Roe v. Wade and you put it in the states. Well, that's a problem as well. If you look at interracial marriage, if you look back at the loving decision, which was essential so that marriages could be legal across state lines, which of course it has to be. So, but it's a very interesting situation.
Starting point is 01:50:16 And I think that it would be very different. My point, basically, is that I think that. it would be very difficult to get all the conservative world on board with gay marriage and on board with the Obergefell ruling because you already have people in the, you know, conservative Protestant realms saying that they want Obergefell to be repealed. And you've had some politicians being like, yeah, I would support the repeal of Obergefell. So I don't know if you could, I don't know if you could get it with that ruling. It might have to be a different kind of ruling than that one to get it. I had this gay roommate, my sophomore year of college in New York, and I at that point had kind of just started flooring with my political identity. I just, I didn't really know who I was at that point, you know, coming from the Bay Area. I had assumed I was a Democrat, but a lot of progressive stuff didn't sit well with me. But this roommate I thought was so interesting because she was a lesbian who was against gay marriage.
Starting point is 01:51:14 and her argument was that she basically was like, you know, I go in March and gay pride parades because I want to be acknowledged as like different and special because I am like a, like, and she's like, and so I want a different institution set up for gay people. She's like, I don't want to be put in this like traditional religious construct of like man and women. She's like I want, she's like as long as I have all the same rights that I would get in a traditional marriage, I don't need you to call it. it marriage because I don't want to like blend in with everybody out one of the things that that queer activists and I'm using the term as as the you know politically queer one of the thing that one of the things that queer activists have an objection that they have is that if you make marriage legal for gay people for gay lesbian and queer people and then they start doing the heteronormative thing just with with another person of the same sex you actually are killing queer people they say they're you're you're you're so if you're if you're politically queer politically like queer is a political stance it's a way of being as opposed to
Starting point is 01:52:24 being heteronormative if you're a heteronormative person oh so it's what my it's the it's your roommate's perspective yeah right right she would be saying you're trying to conform to this yeah yes traditional construct and it makes it makes queer people invisible Amy um I think that queer as a concept is part of the same ideology that that drove or drives trans. Absolutely, yes. And so, so much of that is about the destruction of things like nuclear families. You look like you have like...
Starting point is 01:52:54 No, because we're talking about gay marriage. I have two dudes want to go have a ceremony and fake marry each other. I mean, go ahead. I guess it shouldn't be illegal. But, like, the fact that... I don't think you and I are going to be good friends. Well, I'm just saying, you guys can go wear two suits. I'm going to laugh at two, you know, chicks or whatever kind of get married.
Starting point is 01:53:10 It is funny. But what... Okay. Think about... You know, you know the highest... occurrence of headaches are actually women and that's proof that dating you know lesbians they can't even date each other so like that the divorce rate in lesbians is so incredibly high how high is a divorce rate in lesbians so what i'm going to say what i'm going to say is this is
Starting point is 01:53:27 the reason why marriage matters because people want to do a ceremony so because yeah because every girl's shame is to get married no it's not about it's not about the suits it's not about the cake it's about it's literally all about the wedding no what it is about it's about it's about it's about is that for decades, if my partner was dying in a hospital room, I could not go in that room to be with them in their dying moment because I was not legally recognized as their significant other. I think many gays and lesbians do not care about the cake or the suits or if you want to laugh at it.
Starting point is 01:54:07 All we are asking for is some level of that basic dignity that if our loved one is dying, we have the right. to be with them in the room at that last. Well, I hear that example a lot. I hear that example a lot. And, like, I guess we need gay marriage just so you can go in the hospital, even though they could designate you as a caregiver.
Starting point is 01:54:23 Regardless. That's what I was going to ask you. I know. And I agree, like, for insurance, it's your partner. You want the company's insurance to cover them, too. I get that. I get white people would want those legal protections, but you could probably give those people legal protections
Starting point is 01:54:34 without necessarily having to make them get married. But honestly, I don't give a damn. Two gays want to get married. You guys want to, you know, scissor on the dam, you know, down the aisle. I don't care. But I can tell everybody, wants to get through a lot of these superchats. I got a text from Sean. So Artemis, we love you,
Starting point is 01:54:48 Alex. Clinton, Kelsey, you guys rule. Let's try to get through a bunch of Eric Schaver. Oh, they want Nick Fuentes to guest host. Well, that'd get a lot of views. Nice show, Stein. Lady Katie. That was Artemis again. Let's see what other ones we got. We're going to run through. Oh, they want to talk about the USS Liberty. Okay, well, that's a topic for another day. All right. Any other super chats that I missed, Serge, that I should. Oh, here we go from Sed, Yenay. I don't know how to pronounce. I moved recently to a new city and within a week I knew my way
Starting point is 01:55:18 around. We have been here for six months now and my wife who drives more than me still can't get around. I don't use GPS she does. Oh, good for you. You know how to get around. Congratulations, buddy. Nobody gives a damn but we are appreciative of the $10. Okay, what is this? Elon must you be able to buy
Starting point is 01:55:34 an F-22? Maybe I guess. Let's see. Is there something about Puff Daddy down there that I saw? All right. Well, guys, what a show. I think Libby over here is having a panic attack. She hasn't said five words since I got mad at Chris. Carris. How do I say that? Well, you spit Paris. She was just making sure you didn't spit and hurt her. No, Libby doesn't like it. See, this is the thing, when you're an alpha
Starting point is 01:55:56 male like me, when you're a top dog like me, you know, a lot of women, they cower because I got a lot of power. I'm the Pimp on a Blimp. AOC was a victim of mine. You know, me just talking to a woman directly. It could make them, you know, get a little dry, but I'll tell you this much I get most of them wet. So, all right, guys. I'm primetime 99, Alexine. I'm the Pimp on a Blimp. Don't act like Jamie, you're not vibing. You know you're vibing. You know that you like the pamp. Look at that smile. Show her smile. Jamie, you're smiling. Even though you can't get married, we can get regular married. We can get regular married. How about that? What I like is I like it when people have a personality and have so much big... I have a personality disorder. I have personality
Starting point is 01:56:32 disorder. Yeah. That very well could be. So that might not be a good thing. Okay, let's go around the horn. Libby, where can people find you and support you? You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons and at the postmillennial.com also you can check out what we're doing at human events.com. I would be most grateful if you signed up for my newsletter, which you can do at the postmillennial.com slash Libby. Thanks. Karris. You can also find me on X. My handle is just my last name and then my first name, so at Rea Karris. And if you want to learn about all the lies that you've been told about Israel and Jews, then you can sign up for my news later. DM me.
Starting point is 01:57:11 what's your newsletter um i just send out an email on my couch with some articles every day so how do people sign up for it they can just send me a message with their email on twitter them on yeah at at raya caris extra exclusive i like that well guys uh definitely sign up jamie you've been great where can people find you and support you i am at jamie whistle because i am a legally recognized whistleblower and i also run an organization co-directed with another lesbian I love lesbians. Are you kidding? I'm not anti-lesbian. I'm anti-gays sometimes. Called the LGBT Courage Coalition. We are on X. We are on Facebook. We have a substack. I'm going to go report the page. Go and report those pages right now. That's a joke. Do not
Starting point is 01:57:58 I do that. I'm kidding. And I do love lesbians. Sorry. I don't want to. Subscribe. And we are a huge advocacy organization. So if you're looking to help get some of these laws change so that kids pediatrically cannot be medically. transitioned, we would be an organization to support. Wait, real quick, though, so you are the turf that we're talking about earlier. I mean, you are trans-exclusionary radical feminin. I'm actually not a radical feminist. Okay. So that is where...
Starting point is 01:58:21 Is that possible to be a lesbian and not be a feminist? I didn't say... Not a radical. Not a radical feminist. Okay, so you're just a teff. But I also think that word like doesn't up... Is J.K. rolling really a radical feminist? But people said she was. She is because she's also she's pro-abortion
Starting point is 01:58:37 as well. So, okay, okay. So to be a radical feminist, it includes pro-abortion. I'm raising five boys. So it really is radical liberation. No, it's like, it's basically progressive, but you don't think dudes are girls. Okay. That's their only thing. But it's pretty far like the second
Starting point is 01:58:53 very left. Yeah, like they just don't like, like, it's like why, and it makes sense, why wouldn't a lesbian not want to compete against a biological male in sports, you know what I mean? So that's obvious. Just any woman might not. Any woman, but I'm saying specifically lesb- Biological men is right. Well, a lesbian, at least
Starting point is 01:59:09 the guy I could kind of seduce one of the players maybe I was with, like if I was Leah Thomas, but if they're a lesbian, then they have no sexual interest in me, so then I got no redeeming quality, so you're extra fucked up. Okay, all right, Phil, what do you got for us, brother? I am, Phil that remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. You can check us out on Apple Music, Amazon,
Starting point is 01:59:25 music, Spotify, Pandora, Deezer, and YouTube. Don't forget, the left lane is for crime. There will be clips all weekend, and we will not be here on Monday because it's Labor Day, so we will see you guys all on Tuesday, I believe. And, Serge, what do you got going on. Thank you. You crushed it tonight, Serge.
Starting point is 01:59:41 You were on me a couple of times about my mic discipline and I really appreciate the professionalism that you showed tonight. I didn't show the exact same myself. So I want to apologize to some of the ladies here and I'm not you, Karras. But no, I'm kidding. I'm sorry if I heard your feelings. But yeah, Serge, you want to shout out anything before we go? Yeah, no.
Starting point is 02:00:02 Yeah, don't follow you. Shout out your Twitter. Go on your Twitter. Dude, your Twitter's unhinged. Everybody needs to follow, Serge. He is very outspoken. on there. Some of his takes, I'm always kind of, I'm worried he might lose his account. So it's definitely some spicy stuff if you guys are interested in that. And that's been our show. Once again, tomorrow
Starting point is 02:00:19 it's going to be huge. I think it's Tim's biggest skate event that they've had here so far. The Booney's HQ skate off. I think that's what it's technically called, but it will be a skate competition that you can watch on YouTube and Rumble. Please go and support Casperu Coffee. Please support Tim. You know, it's hard being independent
Starting point is 02:00:35 like this. You know, I know he works for Rumble, but he didn't get that daily wire money. some of your money. So thank you for all the people that gave super chats tonight. I know we were not able to get through all of them. But, you know, some of you big ballers, we appreciate that greatly. I know Serge does. And I guess with all that being said, did I forget anything? Did I shout out anything? Is that okay? And this week has been an emotional week. I'll say that. There's been a lot of drama. Mike Binns is hosted. Jack's hosted. Obviously, Phil's been here all week. And Tim is going to come back and he's going to be the sexiest he's ever been. And I want all the ladies.
Starting point is 02:01:08 I know he isn't a loving relationship, but if you guys could help his self-esteem and be very complimentary of him, Jamie. And I know you're a lesbian, but do you mind sending him a DM saying that his hair looks here? Because if it comes from a lesbian, he's going to appreciate that more. And will you do the same, Libby?
Starting point is 02:01:23 Will you compliment his new hair plugs? Sure. It's like pulling teeth with some of these ladies. All we want is a little compliment, maybe dinner, and maybe just shut your mouth after 8 p.m. You know what I mean? and these ladies never want to comply.
Starting point is 02:01:39 But, you know, compliance is, what silence is compliance. You just complained that I wasn't talking. Oh, I love complaining. No, I'm a hypocrite. That's the one thing you're going to learn about me. I'm a hypocrite. I complain.
Starting point is 02:01:51 Alex. I proud hypocrite. They all got to go back. No, the big booty Latinas can say, if you're a nine, you're fine, I will radicalize Phil to this. But with all that being said, thank you guys so much for watching.
Starting point is 02:02:01 Make sure to tune in next week. They're off Monday, but they will be back Tuesday. Tim is going to be back in full effect. with his Fabio Lox, and Jamie's going to be sending him nude picks. Love you guys, peace. Thank you.

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