Timcast IRL - Trump Admin Accidentally LEAKED War Plans To Liberal Journalist, But It May Be HOAX w/ Bradley Devlin

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Shane are joined by Bradley Devlin to discuss the Trump administration accidentally leaking war plans to a liberal journalist, conservative influencers paid to promote soda & oppose SNAP, Democrats claiming MAGA was fooled by HHS plan to ban Big Pharma ads on TV, and a judge claiming Nazis got more due process than Trump deportees. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Shane @ShaneCashman (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Bradley Devlin @bradleydevlin (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Well, this story is a doozy. The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war plans, claims Jeffrey Goldberg. U.S. national security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. Now, that may be that may be. And if it is, talk about embarrassing. You've got a guy here. Is it is this rolling? Seems like there's a there we go. OK, it's rolling. That was weird. We have a weird there's a weird delay. No, that was extended. But anyway, I digress. This story may be on its face embarrassing for the Trump administration in that they accidentally created a group chat to discuss bombing Yemen and included a liberal Russia, Russia, Russia journalist. Then there's the other story, and that's they intentionally created the group chat with a script that took two days to write, and they wanted him to espouse their their narrative to the world. Look, I don't know exactly, but I think there's

a strong possibility that these journalists are dumb as a box of rocks. And the Trump administration, should they have actually included him, did it intentionally so that he would report their words behind the scenes, which I got to be honest, makes him look kind of good. J.D. Vance saying we can't bomb Yemen. This goes against Trump's message. And then Hegseth says, but we're the only ones in the world who can put a stop to this. And then there's J.D. Vance saying, I get it. You're right. But I really want to keep bailing out Europe. U.S. trade doesn't even go through here. It really sounds like a PR message distilled through a moron who thinks he got leaked information. So the American people think they're getting a genuine behind the scenes look at the difficult decision to bomb Yemen.

Let's be real. When they decided to have a conversation about bombing Yemen, they didn't do it over signal. They met at the Pentagon. They're all in D.C. as it is. What a ridiculous story. But maybe maybe I'm crazy and everybody else is crazy. So we'll talk about that. We got a bunch of other stories, my friends.

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in the first place? The story's crazy. It turns out there's this massive network of prominent conservative influencers who get paid to have political opinions. Looks like we found the grifters. To be honest, though. It wins. It does. I can't disparage an organization that astroturf the same way the left does. If it is some kind of administrative civil war or otherwise, you need political messaging to win. So we will break all of that down, my friends. But before we do, you can also go to casprew.com.

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more is Bradley Devlin. How's it going? Who are you? What do you do? Bradley Devlin, politics editor at the Daily Signal, and it's going to be back. Well, right on. Thanks for hanging out. Simple enough. We got Shane hanging out. Happy birthday to Bradley. Thank you. It's your birthday. It's his birthday. Thank you. Hey, right on. Happy birthday. No better way to spend it. How old are you? 27. Wow. Right on. Nice. I'm Shane Cashman, host of Inverted World Live.

Last night, my guest was Paranoid American. We talked about the very real experiments into adrenochrome dating back to the 1930s, and his time at Disney and weird occult symbolism that I'm sure would not surprise many of you that is in many of those movies. Phil, what is good? Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Levante. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it.

Here's a story from the Atlantic, my friends. The Trump administration accidentally texted me its war plans, so says Jeffrey Goldberg. What a story indeed. They say the world found out shortly before 2 p.m. Eastern time on March 15th. The U.S. was bombing Houthi targets in Yemen. I, however, knew two hours before the first bombs exploded that the attack might be coming. The reason I knew this is that Pete Hegsath, Secretary of Defense, had texted me the war

plan at 1144 a.m. The plan included precise information about weapons, package packages, targets and timing. Now, of course, Pete Hegsath says, yeah, nah, he stunningly denies that war plans were leaked to a highly discredited journalist who dropped a bombshell report. I just I feel like this is fake. Let me show you why. First, the story technically begins short after the Hamas invasion of southern Gaza. OK, blah, blah, blah. On Tuesday, March 11th, I received a connection request for a signal from a user identified as Michael Waltz.

Signals and open source encrypted messaging service popular with journalists. We understand. I assume that the Michael Waltz in question was Trump's national security adviser. I do not assume, however, the request is from the actual Michael Waltz. I met him in the past, and though I didn't find it particularly strange that he might be reaching out to me, I did think it somewhat unusual given the Trump admin's contentious relationship with journalists. I accepted the request. Two days later, Thursday, 4.28 p.m., I received a notice that I was to be included in a signal chat group called Houthi PC Small Group. I mentioned to the group from Michael Waltz as follow. Team establishing a principals group for coordination on Houthis

particularly for the next 72 hours. My deputy Alex Wong is pulling together a tiger team at deputies agency chief of staff level following up from the meeting in the sit room this morning for action items and I will be sending that out later this evening. The message included please provide the best staff POC

from your team for us to coordinate over the next couple of days in the weekend. The term principals committee generally refers to the group of the senior most national security officials, including the Secretary of Defense, state and the Treasury, as well as the director of the CIA. Should go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. I've never been invited to the White House Principals Committee meeting and that many of the years of my reporting on national security matters, I had never heard of one being convened over a commercial messaging app. At this point, guy, two hours before the attack,

and being texted the stuff, did it not occur to you that it's fake? I guess he says it did, but he still publishes the story, believing it to be real. Surprised he didn't warn Yemen. So blah, blah, blah, let's get to the actual messages. March 14th, Michael Waltz said to the group, Team, you should have a statement of conclusions with taskings per the president's guidance this morning in your high side inboxes. State of DOD, blah, blah, blah. At this point, a fascinating poly discussion commenced.

The account labeled J.D. Vance said, Team, I am out for the day doing an economic event in Michigan, but I think we are making a mistake. The Vance account goes on to state, 3% of U.S trade runs through the Suez. Forty percent of European trade does. There is a real risk the public doesn't understand this or why it's necessary. The strongest reason to do this is, as POTUS said, to send a message. The Vance account then goes on to make a noteworthy statement, considering that the vice president has not deviated publicly from Trump's position. I am not sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe right now. There's a further risk that we see a moderate to severe spike in oil prices.

I'm willing to support the consensus of the team and keep those concerns to myself. But there's a strong argument for delaying this a month, doing the messaging work on why this matters, seeing where the economy is, etc. A person identified as Joe Kent wrote, there's nothing time sensitive driving the timeline. We'll have the exact options, the exact same options in a month. Now it goes on. I'm not going to keep reading this. Pete Hegseth says, VP, I understand your concerns and fully support you raising with POTUS important considerations, most of which are tough to know how they play out. I think the messaging is going to be tough no matter what. Nobody knows who the Houthis are,

which is why we would need to stay focused on Biden failed and Iran funded. He goes on to say more and more about this. So they're going to mention that a spokesperson says that it appears to be a legitimate conversation. Right. All right. Let me just give you my quick assessment before jumping the conversation. Otherwise, I'm going to read for 20 years all of these messages. Here you have the vice president seemingly talking with the Department of Defense, seemingly saying, what do we do? Nobody knows who the Houthis are. How do we inform the public as to who they are and why they're so bad and that this really does matter to America? Are you kidding me? Well, I would include a journalist in the text message and then create

scripted crap to be like the Houthis are bad because the moron's going to be like, whoa, they texted me. Guys, look, the Houthis. So Donald Trump took a hit on the bombing of Yemen. People were sharing the interview I did with Trump where he said, you don't need to do this. A lot of people said it was inconsistent. And then all of a sudden, this journalist is like, look at this perfect script of a J.D. Vance saying, I don't think it's a good idea. And Hegseth saying, you might be right, but we need to send a message. The president thinks it's the right thing to do. Oh, come on. Do you guys think this was an accident? It's an accident on purpose. Right. They sent it. He took the bait. He ran with it. Maybe it was i mean look i

don't have any sense as to whether or not it is or isn't an accident it the the the idea you laid out is completely plausible um it's also completely plausible that you know someone had that dude's name in his phone and they put by the initials and they put the wrong initials in that's plausible as well and maybe but he literally says they don't get the journalist says they don't do these meetings over commercial phone apps like i said i i i have no no sense as to whether or not it does maybe they you know it could i completely think that people make dumb mistakes so it could be that they made a government but until I see what was ostensibly top secret information that was sent until you actually show me that this is a nothing burger.

It's a PR stunt. Look at this. Look at this message. It's like, as I heard it, the president was clear green light, but we soon make it clear to Egypt and Europe what we expect in return. We also need to figure out how to enforce such a requirement. E.g. if Europe doesn't remunerate, then what? If the U.S. successfully restores freedom of navigation at great cost, there needs to be some further economic gain extracted in return. Everybody listening, I'm going to go ahead and say I believe strongly that this was intended to trick the journalist into publishing this message. The messages are scripted. The DOD does not green light two hours in advance strikes on a foreign country like this. I mean, maybe, maybe I'm crazy, but I'm willing to bet that considering the meetings I've been in and

how slow everything is, bro, I can't, I can't install chicken wire in an hour. I can't install chicken wire in one hour. If I want chicken wire put up, I got to make like three phone calls and then complain why it's not getting done. And you think the government is just like, let's have a debate real quick over whether or not I'm going to press the button and fire the missiles from our destroyers off the coast of Yemen. Let me look. D.O.D. Rabbit response has a clip of Hegseth on Fox News saying that you're talking about a deceitful and highly discredited so-called journalist. So, I mean, look, they're denying that it even exists, that it's true. How much you want?

One more thing. Yeah. guy covered in cheeto dust was sitting in his living room watching fox news eating flaming hots because they're awesome by the way and then decided to text this guy and hoax him well he believed it uh they someone just uh hoaxed kanye thinking it was joe rogan and he tweeted oh really and joe rogan was like that's not me whoa so these things those do happen that was last week so there's there's two. So there's, there's a few different, there's a few different theories on this.

Tim, will you go to the part of the story where they, the national security council responds? This one, I think gives your theory a lot of credibility. If you are in this position, you deny, right?

You just deny, deny, or you don't respond for comment. You don't like, Peg Seth is now denying in front of the media, but here's what this what this spokesperson says. This appears to be an authentic message chain, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added to the chain. The threat is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials. The ongoing success of the Hootsie operation demonstrates that there were no threats to troops or national security.

Hilarious to me. I think there's a few different theories. So one is like just complete BS. The guy eating Cheetos on the couch has duped this journalist with his buddies. One would be super metal if that was the case. The second theory is that this is some sort of concocted, not real, either AI or staffers pretending to have a high level policy conversation with this journalist in a chat to promulgate that narrative. I think I think it's scripted.

And then the third. Yeah, we're scripted. And then the third one is that it's real. You mentioned if you don't show me the goods, I'm not going to believe it. So this is about a military operation that has already happened. And so if that is the case, lawyers, the Atlantic has an army of lawyers to the screenshots that they include are just of this what do they say deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials they could have had some sort of legal redaction he said that they were waiting or he didn't they didn't uh

you know produce this they didn't they didn't release this until after the attack or whatever it happened right so then why is there no information coming out? Exactly. Right, there should be some sort of redactions available to show that you actually had some evidence of prior knowledge of a strike. It happened, yeah. Why are they having the debate

literally two hours before bombing Yemen? Yeah. Wouldn't they have met in D.C. and then actually confirmed their plans in person? This makes literally no sense. Why is the vice president texting the secretary of defense his opinion on a strike they're prepared to carry out in a couple of hours? Yeah. Unless their real consideration was Trump was the anti-war president who said we can't bomb these these countries and now we're planning on doing it.

How do we get this narrative out there? How about like if we release a statement, no one's going to buy it. But it's it's that meme where the Babylon Bee wrote that story. Ingenious move. Donald Trump comes out in support of impeachment, forcing Democrats to oppose. They they whoops. We've accidentally revealed our true plans. And it was a deep and thoughtful conversation about the collateral damage potentials, threats to our troops, the purpose behind the strike and who the who these are. And now the American people's heard it all. Great. And all these liberals are laughing, but they're so dumb. It's like they don't they don't care that their enemies, their perceived enemies, look at them as incompetent through this.

They just wanted the story out. If it is the case that it was planted in this journal. Well, it could be a coalition. So, like, I think one one area where the president, President Trump and his administration has received a lot of pressure is on the more restraint oriented side of the right so far with people like Mike Waltz being national security advisor. And so they go through with strikes on Houthis, and that has been a major issue for the restraint-oriented right. Like, why are we involved in Yemen at all? And so if you want to shore up that side of your coalition, you put something out there, like, you could put something out there like this that says, hey, that vice president, J.D. Vance, who the restraint community liked a lot, is advocating behind the scenes for the restraint position, and that is being received kindly by people like John Ratcliffe, by people like, oh, yeah, and Joe Kent's inclusion, that was interesting, too. Like, Joe Kent was a

big figure in this community when he didn't win his congressional runs. That was a bummer. And to see him get picked for the administration, that was a big deal for some people. So, you know, J.D. in there, Joe Kent in there in this decision-making process, even when everyone seems kind of leagues higher than his administration position, and Hegseth, who has, you know, some credibility problems with the restraint community, coming in and saying, I totally get where you're coming from, J.D. That could be the play, right? It's a coalition play for the own administration because there was a New York Times piece, like two, maybe it was a week ago, about how people inside the administration

are apparently calling the national security council the neoconservative security council um i don't know could be a motive that's all i'm saying i'm not saying anything definitive but that could be a motive they didn't give us strong messaging on the strikes against the houthis in yemen and there was a backlash against it with a lot of people on the right saying bad now all of a sudden this guy leaks a message where you look at it and you're like, oh, I understand their justification. They're concerned about trade through Europe. They don't want to bail Europe out. They want to send a message to the Houthis. The Houthis are this,

you know, terrorist group that are striking these ships. Now they've created a story where regular people will be exposed to it. And it's headline news everywhere. Every major outlet is talking about this. And like what Bradley's saying, you know, the first things I saw in this story, Brooke, was people saying Vance is the most American first And like what Bradley's saying, the first things I saw in this story, Brooke, was people saying, Vance is the most American first there. It's part of the PR quality to it. I think about Donald Trump being a master manipulator of the media. Famously, in his 2016 campaign run, he got $5 billion worth of free press by gaming the media into constantly talking about him.

And they made money from it, too, so it was win-win. But that's how Trump dominated the airwaves with a minimal budget compared to the rest of these candidates. I don't see it as any different. And I don't know why Trump wouldn't be using that expertise now and why this wouldn't be the case. But you know what? Hey, there's always a possibility it was an accident and they're bumbling morons. That's not a possibility. Speaking of influence, though, let's jump to this next story from Lee Fang. The sugary soda industry's covert influencer campaign falls apart. My friends, grifters are about and it's going to get weird in this Trump term. So the long story short of this is that a handful of conservative influencers appear to have been paid to promote sugary beverages for welfare recipients.

What a ridiculously weird thing to get paid to promote. But what you end up learning as you dig through the story is that there is a conservative leaning. It's a company that has reportedly been associated with large conservative influencers, spheres of influence. Weird way to say it. But they pay money for prominent individuals on X and other platforms to promote specific products. Now, I got no problem if you're promoting a TV show. If for some reason you decided just today was a time to come and claim that Severance was a good show, maybe someone

paid you. I got no beef with that. Promote your shows you like. I don't care if you're getting paid. It's a TV show. Ads for soda exists all the time. We do ads. We did an ad for this show. But when you're espousing political messages, now we got ourselves a problem because you're getting paid to be political. The bigger picture is regardless of whether you're being paid to promote movies or video games or otherwise, you are legally required to disclose this. This is where the story gets crazy. Here's a story from Lee Fang.

Conservative social media influencers have been caught posting coordinated messages opposing proposed nutritional guidelines for SNAP benefits. That's welfare. Food stamps. After receiving payments from public relations firms. The campaign emerged as HHS Secretary Robert Kennedy explores limitations on SNAP benefits for sugary beverages. During fiscal year 2021, the program dispersed over 121 billion thousand benefits, with a significant portion spent on ultra sugary drinks that provide provide minimal nutritional value. Take a look at this. We've got clown world. The government wants to block soda purchases for Americans on Snap. Remember when NYC tried this and it completely backfired?

President Trump proudly had a Diet Coke button in the Oval Office. This is ridiculous government overage. Let people decide for themselves. Eric Daugherty. We cannot allow Make America Healthy Again messaging to be used to force Americans into not buying certain things. Some officials in D.C. are working on trying to prevent Americans on Snap from using those benefits to purchase any soda. Remember when New York City Democrats tried to prevent? Yep. Remember when Trump had a Diet Coke button? We get it. Let people decide for themselves. Ian Miles Chong, you get the idea. The same thing. They're all posting basically the same message. Now, this is the crazy thing. This basically exposes. Let me see. Do I have the

where is that silly website? Let me pull. I thought I had it pulled up. It's a it's a website. I must have closed it. Let's see. Here we go. Influensible. This is the website that says unlock the power of influence. We have this story from Texas Tribune going back to 2023. And it makes it references in late June, about a dozen conservative Gen Z influencers converged on Fort Worth for a few days of right wing networking. They go on to mention the event was sponsored by a fledgling company, Influensible LLC, that recruits young conservative social media figures to promote political campaigns and films without disclosing their business relationship. That's illegal, by the way. And its website, the company touts itself as the world's largest

network of digital activists and offers clients the power to cultivate a community of influencers to leverage their credibility. So here we have it. Let's see what happens when I go for influencers. Let's let's sign up, get paid for being yourself. I'd like to get paid for being myself. Wait, what happened? Oops. We're sorry. The form is no longer here. Gee, did maybe something happen recently where they started removing their influencer signup page? So we did get a response from Chad Prather says, I'm a comedian. I'm a conservative. I'm a man that makes mistakes. I love the values that I share with many of you. I'm often asked to share things. He says that he was not, no, I'm a comedian. I'm a conservative. I'm a man that makes mistakes. I love the values that I share with many of you. I'm often asked to share things.

He says that he was not. No, I didn't take a payment for sharing it. I've had a large following for years, et cetera. Eric Daugherty says that was dumb of me. Massive act on my face. In all seriousness, it won't happen again. I don't think it matters. We got ourselves here. Conundrum, boys. If we're looking at what I describe as Donald Trump in a wartime presidency, they tried to put him in prison. They arrested his lawyers. There were two assassination attempts. This is some degree of conflict. There is warfare afoot. We are not in a civil war. I'm not saying that. But Donald Trump needs to go after these corrupt individuals. They need to be indicted. They need to be arrested. Do where are we at on this one?

Because I'm conflicted, as I often am. I find this scummy promoting sugary beverages to welfare recipients. That's what you're doing. You're not even promoting vote MAGA. You're saying, no, my bad. Everyone go buy sodas. At the same time, this conservative influence network that pays people to post this coordinated messaging is a counter to what democrats have already been doing for decades and if we don't counter their machine we lose i get that i don't like when the left does it and i also don't like when the right does it it's just gross to me these guys selling soda reminded me of colbert dancing with vaccines on late night tv there's just something gross to it.

I agree. Do you remember like a week ago? I know we're in a time warp when Cory Booker and all of those Democrats put out that same exact video with the same exact script on Trump shutting down the government or something like that. That ain't true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one.

I'm pretty sure a lot of these same folks made fun of that only to fall into that exact same scheme a week later. I'm all for high levels of potentially even paid coordination on the right in order to make sure that conservatives win the day. The difference between right and left is that the left actually gets all their money from USAID on this stuff. Used to. Yeah, used to. And so I want to see that level of coordination. What I don't want to see is a level of coordination that brings people into the tent that shouldn't be there, namely these massive food corporations, these massive oligopolies that have no interest at all in advancing the America First agenda.

They shouldn't be in the camp. I'm totally fine with paying people to engage with the public on issues that actually move the ball forward for MAGA. I don't think this issue moves the ball forward for MAGA. It's just once you know someone's for sale, how do you trust anything that ever comes out of their mouth? Right. These individuals who are you've got, for example, Ian Miles Chong. You've got Eric Daugherty. You've got Clown World. You've got Chad Prather. And they're not the only ones.

Those ones that are getting dragged on this the most. These are people, guys, with all due respect, I know some people have apologized to some degree. You know, Chad said, he said, I didn't get paid for this. So if that's true that he didn't get paid for this, then fine. I actually don't see him in the list of these things. I'm wondering what he posted specifically. But Eric Daugherty saying that was dumb of me. You guys were posting ads without disclosing they were paid ads. That's illegal, right? So this goes back to 2016. The Kardashians got in trouble. The FTC will go after you. They say that a watchdog group found over 100 posts from the Kardashians that were not marked as paid advertising. When we do videos on YouTube,

we're required to select a box saying this video includes paid promotion. When we put posts, so I said this earlier, I don't sell direct tweets, but we do tweet things that we do take sponsorships for. So when we've done events, we've had the sponsors say, we'll sponsor your event, but we want you to tweet about it.

And I'll say, okay. And then we'll put powered by or sponsored by. I like to use sponsored by. Or we'll outright put hashtag ad in it. You're legally required to do so. I've even deleted posts when they were improperly posted.

We can't do that. Sponsorships are totally fine. The problem is they're not disclosing it. So how many other posts do they have? How many other posts, guys? You're saying, oops, my bad. Yeah, how many of your tweets, your ex-posts are paid for that you didn't disclose? I got, I kind of, look, the challenge here is,

will the Trump administration actually pressure the FTC to go after conservative influencers who like Donald Trump? Probably not. Right? That's the reality of it. I think everyone, if you do something bad like this, and you go after it. I think these people should go and delete every single paid promo tweet they have.

Not even, yes, but also tell us which ones they are right like be super open about it you know like this is all the ones i've done i'm deleting them now and we can move on from there i can't follow these people oh no i don't follow any of these people maybe maybe their political opinions are for sale you you deal with this way more than i do of course when you're is there is there are there different rules of the road for political opinions versus products right because i think the soda thing it's like substantially more highly regulated yeah and you start getting into very serious electioneering stuff so for instance when you want to buy ads on any platform they have they have specific restrictions on uh social in like uh social and political

influence versus products so instagram is a good example let me see what i got going on over on the old instagram here oh boy so we do we do marketing same as anybody else and uh on instagram here's a good example i have a video that uh let's see let's see if i can find one. Actually, I'll just put it this way. I would say 99% of the videos I post cannot be promoted on Instagram. Anything pertaining to a social issue of political consequence will be rejected outright. So the few promos that I've done on Instagram, the one that I can pull up is the pogo stick over the Cybertruck. We did a boost on that one. And so the visible views you can see are separate from the views you get from advertising.

On Instagram, if you do a promotion, it will not publicly display any of the views you get from the promotion. And if you do a pogo stick over a Cybertruck, you deserve to have more views. Front flip? Front flip. P flip? Front flip. Pogo stick front flip. You have to show me the Cybertruck. I got 547,734 views on it. And then I ran it as an ad because it was doing so well.

I got an additional 179,773. That's the kind of stuff that I can promote. It's a pogo stick. Every time I try to promote my Instagram, anything in it, anything at all, it gets rejected as a political ad. YouTube is the same. There are heavy restrictions on political advertising. So I think the reason they don't disclose it is because they're bordering on very serious, like ethical dilemmas in what they're allowed to spend and how they're allowed to do it. I can't say I know for sure because a lot of these are generic, but it gets called into question when they're not advocating for a politician. They're not advocating for a specific bill or anything.

It's like any other commercial you'd see on TV where they're like, oppose the pill ban. Call your member of congress today like you're allowed to do that they're paid to be bots it's like dead internet theory but with real people and paid for ideas right i think it's scummy oh 100 i mean it's it should be clear when it comes to at least topics like this that are totally flying in the face of all the things that the right has been going on about first of all the right doesn't like you know social programs like snap generally you know some people will say okay we need them but for the most part you'd think the right would be able to agree yeah for for things like soda and stuff like that we

should say you can't get that kind of stuff. It should be for necessities, for basics and stuff. And then so there is the argument, oh, well, you know, the government shouldn't be telling you what to do with your money, which is what the argument that they're making. This is, you know, clearly that's an error in premise. With my money, you mean? Exactly. It's an error in premise because it's not their money. So anytime the government gives you anything, everyone knows there's strings attached, whether it be money to states or money to individuals.

There are strings attached for everything. And then obviously the fact that it goes after the, it flies in the face of the Maha movement and stuff like that, it's just all ridiculous. And it was clearly a terrible idea for anyone to do this. And yeah, no one should trust any of the people that are posting those. Apparently, they were promoting Sound of Freedom, too. Yeah, I saw that.

And I like that movie, and so I'm fine with that. The only problem I have is they didn't disclose that it was an ad. Yeah. Bro, like, I don't get it. Who cares? If, well, I don't sell tweets. So the only times we've done it is, like I mentioned, someone sponsored IRL for an event or show and then asked us to tweet out the show link. And I said – I've explicitly told all the sponsors we will not tweet out anything that's like buy this product from this company.

We will, however, tweet today's episode is this sponsored by this company. That's totally fine. But I – I don't know, man.'t know bad news man political opinions for sale what well you you that's the thing is you can't trust these people now and unfortunately like these people have like such broad reach that it's like well okay now you know the fact that you have broad reach now that's a liability instead of you know an asset to to the goals that people on the right have it's like oh well okay everyone is going to look at you and be like well you can't trust anything they say and then let's you're literally discrediting things that are true that could be

true that you can and you don't even have to i'm sorry we want to move on here yeah let's jump to this next story we've got this from the daily beast maga fooled by official rf cage in your plan to ban pharma ads on tv a post on x announced the health and humanK Jr. plan to ban pharma ads on TV. A post on X announced the Health and Human Services Secretary's plan to ban the ads, but no such plan exists. I don't believe you, Corbyn bullies. Is that how you say his name? I'll tell you why. So it was unusual whales, which is not some random, random garbage user account. This is like they get stories, man. Allies and adversaries of RFK Jr. alike were elated when an ex-post on Monday claimed

that Health and Human Services Secretary planned to ban pharmaceutical ads from television. But Kennedy made no such announcement and no such plan exists. Breaking, RFK Jr. has announced plans to ban pharmaceutical advertisements on television, wrote Unusual Wales early Monday. Unusual Wales is a service that

provides data on unusual stock trading activity. Politicians and media personalities circulated the news, most of whom praised Kennedy for acting on this long stated desire to bar such ads from the airwaves. Great idea, Hawley wrote. Huge conspiracy theorist Naomi Wolf chimed in. What about podcasts? MAGA podcaster Tim Pool mused. Interesting. I think most of us in the public health would support this. Dr. Ashish Jha, former President Joe Biden's COVID-19 response coordinator, wrote, though he noted the court challenges have impeded such efforts in the past. Indeed, it's the First Amendment. So they've put restrictions on pharmaceutical ads, but they can't block them because people

have this right to speak up. But Liz Wheeler breaks down exactly why this would be tremendous. The corporate media will fail. You will watch before your very eyes is highly paid. MSM anchors are fired. Networks panic and some shut down. Paychecks aren't paid. The entire business of mainstream media is a fake business artificially propped up by massive ad dollars from pharma ads.

Guys, I watch Fox News all day. It's nothing but drug commercials. Right into my veins. Yeah, I know. Is it America and New Zealand are the only places that have pharmaceutical ads on TV? I got to say, though, Vanda Pharmaceuticals, you have the best commercials ever there. There's the one where all electricity shuts down in Paris. And this woman runs for some

reason some random blonde woman is running full speed through paris climbs a tower and then turns on all of paris electricity with a single lever i don't know why paris has that kind of uh switch that can disable the entire city but while she's frantically running to restore the power they're talking about a drug that might kill you then there there's the other one for FANAPT. I just love this commercial, dude. It's for bipolar one disorder. You see, look what I'm doing. But the commercial is so good.

You weren't paid for this, right? No, I wasn't. But I love the commercials because as the woman is trying to figure out how to lock the door to her store, it's telling you that the drug kills you it's like this german woman being like fennept increases the qt interval which is associated with heart arrhythmia and sudden death and i'm just like wow that's an advertisement there's a reason snl snl used to make fun of those commercials in the 90s and the commercials haven't changed so in all seriousness i'd love i think all pharmaceutical ads should be banned gone none if it's prescription drug, you shouldn't be able to run those ads on TV. What do you guys think?

I love the idea, if only because it will destroy the mainstream media. Yeah. Yeah. I'm fine with it. I think all those drugs are poison and they should go. One thing that really, I mean, just shows the cards of the mainstream media on this issue. It's like they're instantly bringing up first amendment protestations on this listen I think everyone on this show

loves the first amendment uh as as one Australian politician recently put it you know the reason we have these laws is because we don't have a first amendment like they do in the United States yeah hell yeah brother we do have that You're not coming after my speech. This isn't speech. I mean, like, why is it then that there are restrictions on tobacco and other types of advertisements, and yet pharmaceuticals get to claim this special First Amendment privilege when that wasn't extended to other types of advertisements?

It doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever. This is not at all what the First Amendment is designed for. A few years ago, I saw an interview with, I think it was the CEO of Clearview AI, that facial recognition app. And he was saying that it was their First Amendment right as a corporation to collect all the faces off the internet and put in their database. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is kind of a similar thing. It's like the corporations are now, they have personhood. We're going to give them our rights you know it is it is a challenge uh first amendment wise but i do i i you know this this is why i keep going back to this um wartime presidency because my views have changed quite a bit um i i

keep bringing this up today because it's top of mind but i sat down with um constantine kyson over at trigonometry i was on the Trigonometry podcast. It's going to come up. I don't know when they're uploading the episode, but I really do recommend you guys watch the full thing. But one point he asked me when I said, you know, Donald Trump should use the powers needed to preserve the union and stop the corruption. And he said, he asked me the very basic question everybody asks and I think is very naive. But I'm not saying he's naive. I'm saying it's a good question.

But the response from most people is what happens when Democrats take control and then use those powers against you? They already do. My response is it doesn't matter what powers they use. Any leader who gets in and enforces a moral degeneracy, I have a problem with. And so no matter what we say we want today, it actually doesn't matter what the limit of the powers are. It matters the moral, the moral worldview of the individual enforcing the rules. The example that I give is we ask the question, should parents have the final say in the health care decisions of their children? Yes or no? Yes. Unless they're going to abuse them. And there is the problem.

So your answer is no. The answer is outright no. It does come to a part where the parents' idea of care actually is real life abuse. So you have two scenarios. In Florida, the parents say, we want our children to be trans. Should the parents have the final say? No, because trans isn't real. Okay, so now in California, the parents say, we don't think trans is real, so we do not want this for our kids. Should the state intervene? No, the parents should get out of the state. I mean, look, that's not what I asked. And the point I'm bringing this up is when it comes to the banning of pharmaceutical ads, I literally don't care about your but my morals question. If we ban the speech today, Democrats will come and do something tomorrow.

Understand this. If we had an amendment to the Constitution, the 20th Amendment said all parents will get the final say as to the medical decisions of their children. The end result would be waves of parents giving their children sex changes without our ability to intervene. So do we want that principle enshrined in law? And when we are saying this, we are saying kids should be forced to take drugs when the parents are saying no. The state shouldn't be allowed to take the kids from the parents. Schools shouldn't be able to cover this stuff up. We are, of course, not saying that parents should be allowed to abuse their children.

The issue is we want that enshrined in law. But as soon as a Democrat gets in, they reinterpret the principle and apply it in the other direction. It doesn't matter what we say. So if we were to say right now, this is not free speech to sell prescription drugs to people that could kill them and mess them up and it destroys this country. Free speech is the expressing of political ideas that we want, not selling products. Then, of course, we say, of course, I'm not talking about selling a sandwich. Then what happens? Democrats in band sandwiches. A really great example is in New York. they banned public drinking. And the city councilman that passed

it at the time, they were concerned about homeless vagrants getting drunk. And the exact quote when they were passing this provision was, let it not be said that a man can't enjoy a beer with his lunch. That is not what this legislation does. Today in New York, you cannot enjoy a beer with his lunch. That is not what this legislation does. It doesn't matter. Today, in New York, you cannot enjoy a beer with your lunch. They banned this back before there was drinking and driving. People used to drink and drive, I think, what, in the 70s or something?

Like 60s? 60s, probably. So my point is simply this. Everybody keeps playing this game of we must be principled. And I'm like, bro, nobody has any agreement on what those principles are anymore. Being principled applies to a country with social cohesion. If everybody

shares a moral worldview, we remain principled because we're saying don't be corrupt. But if you come to me and say, but Tim, if you say that Trump should arrest the corrupt politicians, Democrats will get in and do it, too. And I'm like, actually, it's the other way around. Yeah, I think you're Democrats did this. And now Trump should, too. I think you're pointing out there's been an inversion for a long time on the right about how these principles actually work with one another. What you're pointing to is like and the and the the complaint about abusive parents, right, in the case of abusive parents, whether that's sex changes or physical abuse or whatever. If a second order principle is not in service of a higher principle, which is our view of there are things that are morally right and things that are morally wrong.

If someone has hijacked that, then that principle is no longer in service of the common good. I go back to Aquinas and what he says about what law is. Law has to be in service of the common good. I go back to Aquinas and what he says about what law is. Law has to be in service of the common good. If it's not in service of the common good, then you are free to politically, prudently reject that law. These aren't, you know, the left and their efforts to, you know, trans the kids. There's no way that that can be interpreted as some sort of positive moral good, you know, in a world where there is any sort of rational world where we can determine what is right, what is wrong, what is black, what is white, etc. I think you're absolutely right on this. Like, this wartime presidency thing is actually a recovery of higher values in our politics that have been completely destroyed because people latched on to these secondary principles, right?

Wanting to have a say over your child's education or over your child's well-being and made that the entire ballgame. And like actually we need to get back to the most basic stuff, which is, no, everybody, there is a right and a wrong. The world was created by God. He has a plan for you, right? Like, you have to get back to that. So here's where we are. Totally agree. There was a time when this country was morally cohesive.

We had a dominant moral worldview. It was based on Christian moral ethics. Whether atheists want to accept it or not, it's actually a fact. You can disregard it. That's what you get with wokeness and liberalism today. In this period, we had, we believe in free speech. Can you guys tell me one time, one time, this country has ever actually believed in free speech?

Because the answer is it never has. And I'm not trying to drag this country. United States is a great country. But when they actually passed, ratified the Bill of Rights, blasphemy was still illegal. You can go to small towns and they string you up, they kick you out. They criminally charge you for obscenities. Speaking obscenities in public was illegal even in the 1970s. In fact, the Second Amendment, when was that ever protected? We argue about the NFA. Please, you couldn't carry a gun on your person until 2008 with DC versus Heller. So we like to look at the Constitution. And I will say this. We have been winning tremendously over a long period of

time towards those goals in the Bill of Rights. But the founding fathers never intended intended for any of them to be applied this way, because I'll say it again. You go back to the founding fathers, stand up in one of their one of their congressional congresses and start cussing and blaspheming and they'd have you arrested. And they'd say, we're not talking about the free speech to do that. We're talking about the right peaceably assemble meant that individuals could gather in a room and hold a continental congress of the king coming and shutting it down. My point ultimately is this. When our country is morally unified, we think we're operating under these principles. But the truth is, the moment someone speaks out morally unified, we think we're operating under these principles.

But the truth is, the moment someone speaks out something nasty, we throw them under the bus. To be fair, in the past 30 years, you could say the most important things in the world, you wouldn't get thrown in prison for it. You go out and do Nazi stuff, you won't go to prison for it. And that's the important point. But that's still a recent development. Today, my point is simply this. There is no moral cohesion in this country. The woke

think being mean to people is violence and will enforce that law against you. They argue that incitement to violence is not free speech. The right then agrees. They then say and disparaging a group and calling them evil monsters is inciting people to attack them. We then disagree. Doesn't matter. You will get a judge will bang the gavel and say, of course, if you demonize a whole group of people, people will attack them. And so your principle of free speech is meaningless in the context of your morals. Let's jump to this story, which actually brings us deeper into this problem. Judge contends Nazis got more due process than Trump deportees did. Don't care. Really? And that's the and that's

that's the answer I was looking for, Phil. Don't care. Who cares? Donald Trump's trying to deport Trende Aragua. There's apparently arguments that there's a gay Venezuelan barber asylum seeker who's been wrapped up in this and sent to a supermax in El Salvador, which is terrifying. I don't want. Well, first thing I got to say is why do you try to exploit my country and lie to get in here? Because if you're from Venezuela, Mexico is right there and you're safe. But you. So I think he's a liar who committed a crime against this country. I don't think he deserves to go to supermax. But at the same time. Am I really going to come out right now and argue that Donald Trump should not use the fullest, fullest extent of his powers to undo the damage that Biden caused?

Joe Biden's fault. Joe Biden allowed millions of people to come into this country illegally. Now we have to get rid of them. And that means that the chances of people that are not here illegally or that are that are not criminals or whatever they're going to get wrapped up too and hopefully we can fix it after the fact and that they don't get they don't have too much actual like irreparable damage or whatever or repercussions that can't be remedied but there are going to be errors when you're trying to remove millions of people. And I'm sorry that that's going to happen, but that's going to happen. And you can't avoid it. We are fallible humans. If you want to blame someone, blame Joe Biden and blame Democrats who have been pro-illegal immigration for at least 10 years.

And they lost 300,000 children. Yeah. Yeah. for at least 10 years and they lost 300 000 children yeah yeah i will say a gay barber that gets caught up in an el salvadorian supermax prison sounds like a fantastic premise for a great comedy it's like it's like barry it's like you watch barry i haven't seen the bill haters show it's about the serial killer right he's like yeah he's like a murderer it's crazy yeah bill haters it's amazing but there's a character just like that yeah well it goes back to the point you were just making about you know lamenting oh well if we do this then democrats will against eventually use that against us well i think people are

undercounting the knock-on effects that wielding this type of political power has right like democrats did all of these things in the joe Joe Biden administration dating back to you want to stretch back to FDR or Woodrow Wilson or whatever. Right. They were not concerned with what the right was going to do when the right got power. That wasn't a worry for them. Why? Because they knew if they exercise power in such a way, they could inculcate their interests and their peoples so that when we come in and we have a mandate like this on the right, breaking down that wall is proving really, really difficult. Just ask the Trump administration legal team who finds themselves involved in 132 different court cases, right? So this idea that power once wielded can be equally applied by the other side, I don't think that's true in a current system in the

current system that we have so it's smart for the trump administration as tim was saying to use as much power as possible to get back to those basics that we were talking about right moral cohesion to get back there so you need to destroy absolutely everything that they've built to inculcate their their values obviously, right now, if, you know, one of the questions I have for the trigonometry guys is if with all these terror attacks that are happening against Tesla facilities,

and we've already seen the Somerville riots, so we're in this period of conflict. If the legislature of a state voted to protect these far left groups from their own law enforcement and from federal law enforcement, should Trump intervene, invoke the Insurrection Act, and start enforcing the law federally through the National Guard?

I was hoping they were going to do that during the Black Lives Matter riots. The Summer of Love. Right, right. They didn't do it then. If the states then vote to bar the national guard entry into their state and physically obstruct them should trump order the politicians arrested for levying war against the united states seditious conspiracy yeah probably i mean that is that is war i don't know that i don't know it'd be the politically prudent thing to do would trump theoretically be within his rights to do it?

That's part of that situation. Probably. So, again, Abraham Lincoln had the Maryland legislature portions of it arrested for being sympathetic to the Confederacy. Mayor of Baltimore. The mayor of Baltimore, too. The grandson of Francis Scott Key as well, I think, was thrown in jail by Lincoln. Suspended habeas corpus. Yeah.

Okay, let me ask you guys this who are listening. You can comment. Do you think, and do you, and do you believe, two questions, that Abraham Lincoln was a despotic dictator, an evil man, who was abusing his power? Do you believe that if you ask the average American that question, they would respond in the affirmative or the negative? The average person would respond in the negative, right? They would say he was a hero who did what he had to do to preserve the union. But he was a dictator. And Donald Trump says he's like Abraham Lincoln. Right. But I don't agree with what Lincoln did with suspending habeas corpus with those people, because they were just openly saying they were sympathizers of the Confederacy. Some of them didn't even do that. The theory was that Abraham Lincoln didn't just arbitrarily be like, you know what? No

habeas corpus for anybody. He said, we need safe passage between Pennsylvania and D.C. and Maryland as a slave state sympathetic to the Confederacy. We need to remove the Confederate sympathizers and we need to create a passage for U.S. military and troops to move into D.C. without any obstruction. So the point of suspension of habeas corpus was anyone who obstructed them would be arrested and removed immediately without question because they were at war. We are not in a physical kinetic war right now. What we have is higher generational warfare to some degree, fifth, maybe sixth. We certainly have fourth. Fourth generational warfare is insurgency.

Warfare does not mean you are in you are at war with another nation or in a civil war, anything like that. So there's subterfuge, there's subversion. When I look at this story about the mass deportations, here's what I fear. Donald Trump should not be rounding up innocent people. I hope that doesn't happen. As much as people might sympathize with on the left with this gay barber, one thing remains clear. He criminally entered this country to commit fraud against the United States. Now, if we get a story of an American citizen who was sent to a supermax in El Salvador, then I will be I will be I will go to the White House personally. I will text everyone I can and be like, get that citizen back here. When Donald Trump joked that the Tesla terrorists could maybe spend 20 years in a Supermax in El Salvador, that's messed up. I say no to that. I think he's half joking, but I'm not going to tolerate any kind of, we're going to ship American citizens to a foreign country's

rematch prison. No way. Far leftist wingnuts get due process, and that due process is the right to a trial, because if you don't give them that, you don't get it either. Now, as for these noncitizens, this gay barber asylum seeker, you want me to feel sorry for this guy, the guy who illegally entered our country, lied to us so that he could he could come here, break our laws. Listen, I don't want him in a supermax prison. I get it. But the left is going, oh, no, the poor gay barber quick burn the Constitution. Sorry, not not happening. You do not illegally enter this country and take advantage of the American people and then expect me to come out and defend you the way I would an American citizen or a legal resident who did everything right. That being said, Mahmoud Khalil, he's on a two year

temporary green card. They act like he's a permanent resident. That's a technicality because he is on a green card, but it's a temporary it's conditional and he helped organize violent protests where they took over buildings and threatened workers and there was violence against students sorry you get your visa revoked for that yeah yeah right that type of crime no no tolerance for it no tolerance for it at all and and the crazy thing about what we see on college campuses right now on the left is all of those people who work in those buildings asked for it for so long. to inculcate, right? They wanted to create this activist class that was either going to dole out USAID dollars or receive USAID dollars. And to see the, I don't know, I just, the brain rot finally come for their own institutions. There's something very gratifying about it.

At the same time, I really, like, a lot of these administrations on these college campuses are doubling down on these DEI policies or on this type of – Changing names. Changing names. Did Columbia cave today for the $400 million? I don't know. Did they? There's some New York college. I think it was Columbia that c caved to get the 400 mil. The point, if they did, that's a win.

Because I see this window, right, the campus Hamas-Israel protests creating a window for the rights to actually act vigorously against these academic institutions. And to see Trump come out and be so vigorous against them in the first two months has been wonderful to see. But you need something to, like, blow that wide open. And I think that's why the speech issue paired with leveraging federal funds is the perfect way to do this. Because if they don't, I mean, you just have to bring these institutions to heel. Like, this is the wartime presidency in a certain respect.

It's this weird balance. I got bad news for everybody. I think that we're going to be moving towards the left propaganda campaign we predicted. Photos and videos of people being loaded on trains, buses, or whatever. They're going to say Trump is Hitler. It's Hitler 2.0. Here we go. There's nothing you can do.

We've got on the low end an estimated 10 million people who illegally entered this country. And that doesn't include the people who are legally allowed to enter under Joe Biden special programs like the five hundred thirty thousand Haitians, Cubans and Venezuelans. They were they were allowed to legally enter. These people didn't come here illegally. They were told if they had a sponsor here, they could come. Trump's terminating 500,000 legal statuses, immigrant legal statuses. Now, that's tough. That's these are these are people who didn't break the law. They were told by Joe Biden, come on down. It's fine. It's legal. But this was still an attack on the American people seeking to flood the zone in liberal jurisdictions to boost their electoral vote count.

This is the game that Democrats have been playing. Trump will reverse this. Otherwise, the country is doomed. There will be a response from the left in some capacity. And you are going to get these narratives. Trump is a despot who who's rounding up not the game they're playing right now is the gay barber is innocent. That's what they're saying. They're saying this gay barber is innocent. He was an asylum seeker and Trump accused him of being trend to Aragua, Senator Supermax. My response is that's propaganda. He entered the country illegally. End of story. Asylum seeker means he entered illegally because if he didn't, then he wouldn't be an asylum seeker. He'd be a visa holder, be a green card holder. He came from Venezuela, bypassing every country in between where he could

have been safe, came to the United States for economic reasons, most likely breaking our laws. And in the sweep, he gets deported. Now, I've heard two conflicting reports. One says he's still currently in U.S. detention or in U.S. controlled detention awaiting some kind of hearing. Others have said he's already in Venezuela. But this is not an American citizen who is innocent. This is a man who committed a crime for which the due process is, sir, are you a citizen? No. Goodbye. When they start pumping out that propaganda with the people in trucks getting pushed out, just all our friends out there just keep saying, I voted for this. We've got to push through it.

But the crazy people are going to get crazier. I'm watching people out there. They're unhinged, like leftists. They're crazier now or just as crazy as they were during the Summer of Love. Indeed. It seems like we're back to it. Let's talk about what's going on with Tesla. We have the story from The Guardian.

Incendiary devices found at Texas Tesla dealership amid growing protests. The Trump administration has pledged to crack down on vandalism and protest against Elon Musk's car company. So this is in Austin. They found what are incendiary bombs at these dealerships. The bomb squad was deployed. Just another story, another day where we're getting this far left terror. Now over the weekend, I took my cyber truck to DC and I drove it around Martinsburg, West Virginia. And someone, so on our way to DC, a woman in a blue car, we're auto driving. So the cyber truck is just in the middle of the, like in its lane, perfectly driving on the highway. You know, driver is sitting there with his hands at his lap

looking down the road. That's what you do when it's auto driving. This lady gets right on the line of her lane and is super close to the truck. Like I could have touched her car. I could have just like put my hand out and she's looking in the way she's looking left, not looking forward, staring at us in the car. And one of my buddies in the car was like, yo, this lady is like getting up on us and she's staring at us. This is weird. And she held that for a couple of minutes. And I'm thinking, maybe it's just a bad driver, right? We get to DC and as we're, uh, we were pulling into a charging station, some lady points at us and the guy who's with her spits at us. We had, uh, when we, so that was, that was, that was that was it i mean maybe it's nothing right

in martinsburg west virginia we had a woman roller when i start screaming at the top of our lungs at us just like screaming with her kid in the car and then the other thing was uh i pulled up i was at a stop sign and a guy pulled up looked at me and then she gave a thumbs down like that and then i just gave him a salute and he took off that's all i really experienced i tweeted that and a bunch of it got retweeted like crazy the the i guess the reason it matters as much as i was kind of like yo i don't really care there was an unease you don't know who's going to walk up and throw something at your car or who's going to you know we're seeing all these videos of violence and vandalism most people don't realize it's a hundred times worse

than that the videos you see of the violence by one percent of most people don't realize it's 100 times worse than that. The videos you see of the violence by 1% of what's actually going on. There's a bunch of videos where people are hitting the cars, denting the cars, kicking the cars, keying the cars. But you're not hearing from the people who aren't in sentry mode. Sentry mode is when the car records everything around it. Most people aren't using that. They don't think they need it, right? So their cars are getting damaged. I got to tell you, I drive that truck around and you can see it. These people are freaking out. One last thing on this. A middle class guy, liberal, two years ago, buys a Tesla for 30 grand. He finances it. So he puts five grand down. He still owes 26,000 because there's

fees. He's like, I did what the left wanted me to do. I bought an electric car. Two years later, they're destroying it. They're keying it. So now he's got a dented fender. He's got a key left and right. And he says, I can't sell it because they damaged it. And if I try to sell it now, I can sell it for 10K and I'm underwater $16,000 in debt. What do I do? That is the evil of the left and the world they've built for you. Yep. I always thought it was going to be the child slaves and the cobalt mines attacking Teslas.

Turns out. Too far away. Turns out, in fact, it was the climate change. Francis Ngannou is coming back. It's funny that you mentioned that you've had this experience, and I think that it's probably due to the fact that you were driving around in a Cybertruck, because I own a Tesla, and I actually went to D.C. this weekend myself. Not a dirty look. Well, I mean, you know, I've got an...

Me and Sarah went to look at the... to see the cherry blossom. But you also kind of have a don't F with me look. I mean, look, man, I'm not some tough guy or whatever. And I'm there with my girlfriend and stuff. And it's like, you know, I got, I do drive a black S. So it's not like some kind of like, it doesn't stick out the same way that a Cybertruck does. You know, and I think that that's probably why, you know, Tim, people took notice of Tim is because of the vehicle itself. I think maybe tomorrow I'm going to send out a film crew and one of our armed guards just to park the vehicle.

And like, just, I hate to say we're going to have an armed guard. There's no intention for violence. We want to interview the people who actually try to come up and engage the vehicle or do whatever they would do with it the moment they come near it we'll have the cameras come around the corner and just be like what are you doing and why are you doing it so i can hear what these people have to say it's like to catch a predator right but for cyber trucks for cyber trucks and then you know try and have them respond and be like most people who bought these vehicles did it apolitically yeah they're not buying them because they're like, woo, Elon. You should – if you want to do this, you should try to do it near a federal building where a lot of federal workers work.

Oh, boy. And see if it's federal workers who come after. Well, I don't know. We've got a couple universities around here. You know. Oh, yeah. That would be – yeah. But it's hard to know. We've got a couple of universities around here, you know? Oh, yeah. That would be, yeah. But it's hard to know.

I mean. Liberty University, they just like give it a hug. No joke. People don't get this, but you think West Virginia is like this big red state. It is. But every city is blue everywhere. So when you go to Martinsburg, West Virginia, there's progress pride flags everywhere. Yep.

And this is one of the concerns the locals were telling us when we were trying to set up shop there, which we are not anymore because of the far left extremism and the vandalism, the violence. But it's unfortunate because the local businesses said these woke people from Frederick and from parts of Maryland are coming here because the rent is cheap and they're bringing that influence with them now it's infecting their city and what can you do yeah i i i wonder what the environmental impact is on uh destroying a tesla that's that's a big question for me i also think of uh i don't know if you guys have seen this but the heat map for uh liberal psychology and conservative psychology whereas so it's a it's a circle and in the it's like a bullseye and so the bullseye is if you have the strongest attachment to your family then your outer family your close friends friends peers you know colleagues blah

blah and it goes all the way out until the last rung of the bullseye is everything in existence. And the conservative heat map is really concentrated on those first fundamental units of society. Your peers, your colleagues, your family, your friends, right? Really centralized. For the left, the heat map actually focuses on rung 13 or 14, which is all living things, including trees and plants. So it's this Karamazov brothers Karamazov problem where you can't love individual people or things or your community. You have to love everything in the abstract. And I feel like this is that it's a little bit real life. It's a little bit worse, actually. The researchers described it as inert objects. Democrats' heat center on that map centers around inert objects like trees and rocks. Rocks, literally.

And to be fair, I care deeply about rocks. Rocks are cool. I see a rock formation that's thousands of years old, like a big circle sitting on a little thing. Somebody wants to smash that up, I'm stopping them. Oh, yeah. Like, no, no, no, no, don't you touch that rock. That's a cool rock. I'm with you.

As for the gravel outside, I don't much care. I mean, I'm not particularly fond of gravel either myself. Yeah, gravel's bad. But that's what this is, right? It manifests in your community, which is these people don't actually care that they're destroying your Teslas. They're so fixated on loving the government or loving America in the abstract that they don't actually know or understand or have any sense of what it actually is, right? Because they've decided that America is this amorphous thing that I get to decide what it is at any point in time. And if that requires me destroying someone's Tesla or getting out in the streets during

Summer of Love and burning down whole neighborhoods or not calling the police when I see a crime happen on the street or locking up Daniel Penny, you know, any of those things are totally fit in to this psychological matrix that people have actually mapped now. And we get to see how deranged this movement actually is. I just think it's a cult, you know, and sometimes I watch some of these other podcasts sometimes. And I know that many of these other prominent personalities are too scared to say what they know is true. Come on. There were two assassination attempts on Donald Trump. We have no explanation for the first one. No. Jenna Ellis, Trump's lawyer, was charged with RICO simply for drafting a letter

for the president. She didn't do anything. And I think it was in Minnesota, Wisconsin, they went after Trump's lawyers as well. The moment Democrats in government tried to arrest Trump's lawyers for simply representing him. It was apparent that we were in some kind of fight between warring factions in the government for control of that government. I would say even earlier, right, when Obama's wiretapping Trump's campaign. Absolutely. Right. And I you know, it's fascinating to me when when I ask people about this and they refuse to answer the question. I am not saying anything. It's like this is not an opinion statement. It is a fact question. Did they try to arrest Trump's lawyers? Yes or no?

The answer is yes. OK, yes, it's a fact. They literally did arrest his lawyers. They didn't try to. They literally did. They indicted and arrested. OK, is that unconstitutional? Yes, it literally is. OK, so have Democrats unconstitutionally targeted the president with criminal criminal indictments, threats of property seizure, targeting of his assets, resources, family and lawyers? Yes, all of that's true. What do you call that? That's an honest question question there's no gotcha there's no trick question i don't know how would you describe a state of government where one political faction has violated the supreme law of the land that's the constitution to destroy their political

opponent i mean banana republic you know it'd be like you know banana republic or something like that you know because that's the the type of thing that you like to hear from. With those things, those things are facts. And I want to make sure I do this because for a lot of people who don't know. Here you go. Jenna Ellis becomes latest Trump lawyer to plead guilty over efforts to overturn Georgia's election, crying in court, pleading guilty. I think the argument was that it would be overturned. It was October 24th, 2023. It's a fact they've arrested more than one of Trump's lawyers. That's unconstitutional. The

right to due process and legal representation is enshrined in our in our Bill of Rights, in our Constitution. They did it. We know they did. OK, this is an administrative level. They also tried to seize his assets in New York City. Even though Deutsche Bank, Trump's creditors, his lenders, argued that he made them money, he never deceived them and they like to work with him again. They still found him liable of civil fraud. Now, with these things being true, the question then is, what should a now Trump administration do in response to what they did to him? You've got to go full force. Yeah. Shatter.

Not a trick question. The whole system. Honest question. What do you think? I mean, I don't know about these exactly, but I always think about how I want to remember trials for all the COVID stuff. So I ask these questions to other personalities, and they are terrified to actually engage in this conversation. Why? Because they know what the end result of all of this is going to be.

Life is not going to be fun at all. It's going to be scary. They shut the world down already. I know. And people have always hoped they can just lay on the floor and the and the mob will pass their house by. You're right. They already took your life away and they're hoping and begging it doesn't happen again. OK, if Donald Trump does not criminally charge, indict, investigate, if Dan Bongino and Kash Patel do not go after these individuals who violated the Constitution, targeting their political opponent, you have no country. Totally.

If they are allowed to do these things without repercussion, there was the lawyer who altered an email so Carter Page would go to jail. Remember that? Falsifying evidence? Yeah. The fake impeachments, the censorship. The only rational conclusion is for anybody who knows the truth, Trump must investigate, indict, arrest and charge politicians, attorneys general, district attorneys you go to one of these run-of-the-mill woke woke light or fake centrist types and you you ask them these questions they will abandon the conversation faster than you can see you can say on delay on delay uh yeepa yeepa yeah i voted for accountability i want like these people mutilated our society and first they attacked us during

lockdowns and forced people out of their jobs, destroyed families. You know, we can go through the whole list. And then they went after Trump super hard. So I want accountability. There's, you know, the meme that Trump puts out there, not after me, they're after you. I'm just in the way. There's a significant amount of truth to that. They're after the liberties that you have as an american

and the the idea that now that the right is in power they shouldn't try to one rectify the things that were that have been broken and to try to punish those people that actually did the breaking that's that's absurd the right in power. They should use every means at their disposal to rectify the problems that were caused by the Democrats and punish the people that did it. And their neocon friends as well. Of course, of course, of course. Yeah, I think I think what what happens if Donald Trump then so so some of the actually, you know, I should I should pull this one up. We didn't have it. We'd'd have the story pulled up but i do think we should we should just we'll just grab it well i don't want to use reuters let's uh let's use new york post there we go

let's jump to the story from the new york post trump revoked security clearance for joe biden entire an entire family kamala harris hillary clinton and other political foes i mean the viral claim here is that this is the precursor to investigation, indictment, and arrest. Yes. Good. They're removing their security clearance, so these individuals don't know the movements that are happening behind the scenes. Biden did it to Trump.

Indeed. And so should Trump actually do this if these rumors are true? Yes. What do you think the left will say? Freaking out. This is going to feed their confirmation bias that he's a crazy dictator. And with them already firebombing Tesla dealerships and shooting cars. It'll accelerate.

Yep. It's going to get ugly. But it's been ugly. This is the conversation I've tried having with many moderate individuals. They don't want to have it. They simply just say, no, I don't think so. And just answer the question, yes or no. Did they arrest Trump's lawyers? I'm just saying I don't want to have this conversation because I figured you're a coward.

That's why I want to highlight a piece written by Dr. Matthew Meehan in The American Mind about a roadmap to restore accountability in our government and one thing that he mentions in this piece is the first thing that you can go after and it's actually a relatively easy thing to go after rather than the types of uh high crimes that joe biden and kamala harris might be engaged in just go after perjury first like just get those guys because we've seen it from brennan we've seen it from clab. We've seen it from all these guys in the past. I do think, though, I have to convince myself on a daily basis to not be so gosh darn red meat about this issue, because I am no moderate on this. I think we should go full, like go all the way.

We need to hold these people accountable. At the same time, do you actually need, you know, what's the type of, I won't call it destruction, I'll call it creative destruction that you need over these types of individuals? Like, is justice served if there is a requisite amount of public knowledge and public destruction of these individuals and their crimes. So like, can I make it impossible for Hillary Clinton to ever go get a stipend from Goldman Sachs? It's not enough for me. I get it. I want them in jail. Right. So you want definitely some of these people in jail. But it's like, how do you balance that in a way so that we don't get into a situation where the entire country starts to fall apart and so i've i've really been trying to think about what what dr mehan challenges

people to think about it's like proper political uses of clemency that can strengthen accountability public trust in the rule of law and if we if we realize if we all sit around and realize that we're in a in a country that that is impossible now i just i don't i don't even know how i could i don't even know how you can grapple with that i don't know if shaming those people like a clinton shame no it's not even it's not just public it's not just public shame it is like the full trial procedure etc uh-huh and is there a punishment and if they're found guilty after a trial is there a punishment i think i think i think you could use you could use specific on it depends on on the circumstance

right so like for someone like anthony fauci who is guilty of perjury and many other things like jail yeah or space we just or he's gonna be the first guy on Mars. That's right. He'll ruin Mars. Weigh your masks on Mars. If you're talking about, I'm trying to figure out someone who'd be more apropos. Maybe like a governor, like a Whitmer or a Cuomo. Yeah, maybe it's enough to go through this process. And then on the back end, Trump just being like, I pardon you. Right.

I couldn't handle it yeah personally i don't want them pardoned those people are we are genocidal maniacs we know that the governors of several blue states put covid patients in nursing homes killing the elderly against the cdc's even the cdc said don't even do it and they were like nah for sure no i'm again i i'm i'm trying to figure out politically sustainable ways to hold these people accountable while keeping the country while keeping the country together. Donald Trump did not start this. Oh, I know he didn't start it.

So you're basically saying Trump needs to – there needs to be a way to be nice to people who initiated – No, it's not necessarily nice. It's not necessarily nice. It is – and it's not meant to be nice to those people who have done the wrong. It is to figure out a way to structure our retribution, because our retribution is going to be success, in a way that doesn't destroy the country. Because I don't think, one, let me just be clear, I don't think Trump's going to destroy the country, golden age, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But if these are the stakes, right, we're like it's going to be summer. Summer of love is going to look like a sideshow if this thing really kicks off. And I think I think we really do have to think about this really critically. Summer of love will kick off. It's already starting. They've got on the 29th, the Tesla takedown. Right. 500 locations, I think it is, or 500 events.

There's all, just today, we already covered the story. They found more bombs at a Tesla location in Austin. We've had more stories of violence and vandalism targeting private Tesla owners. There's a disabled woman who, she's in a wheelchair and some guy, this is another viral video, just went out, keyed her car totally. And she's like, I'm handicapped, and like, I bought an electric car for the environment. This is what happens to me. That was terrible. I do not see a circumstance

where psychotic and deranged people simply stop. However, there is the argument that we're actually on the back end of this conflict, with Trump winning. This is, how do people describe it? First Trump term is a new hope. Biden term is empire strikes back. And now we're in return to the Jedi return to the orange man. Maybe Trump arrests these people. We see actual arrests of sitting politicians with indictments and publicly available evidence. And the left does lose their mind. But maybe their power is waning. Case in point, USAID is gutted and gone. Trump has fired all these federal prosecutors that were from Joe Biden. He's gutted the SDNY. The power structures used by the left to wage

administrative warfare and NGO based conflict have been shredded to pieces. Right. So maybe now in a few months, there will not be the resources to create these good point because he's kind of he's robbed them of their narrative machine not just that their money and all the yeah he's what did lee zeldin find money 375 billion dollars that was being allocated towards climate ngos yeah yep yeah it's crazy i just i part of me also feels like the country is destroyed even though we're living our lives as if it's not like post lockdowns, things just never went back. They feel like maybe it's just people like it's normal, but we're not in like a good place. The economy is so bad. People are suffering so bad. You know, I don't think you just get over

that. Yeah. And I'm not some, I'm not some like moderate coward who thinks like everything's hunky dory. You're making that guy's point though like from the american mind yeah and i and i and i think and i think dr mian does raise a really important political point like i want justice and clemency in that order and that's the only way that that i i just don't know i just don't know how how the country doesn't go uh uh uh wrong way wrong way yeah i don't think there's any way it's going to go a good way. Yeah. You know, no matter what we do.

Needs to happen, though. Oh, yeah. But again, I want to at least have there be a consideration of optimism in that we were talking about winning a culture war and we all rallied and voted for Donald Trump and for the Republicans

and they've got the House, the Senate and the executive branch right now and they're actually using it. Is it perfect? No. But it's above and beyond my expectations. If this continues forward, there may not be an NGO mechanism to create protests. The far left may end up getting arrested and rounded up in these protests,

and they go to prison for a long time, and the Summer of Love may not actually— I think we're already in the emergence of it. It's springtime. But I'm wondering if we end up with little to nothing because Trump has crushed their machines. If the narrative building machines that the left has used with the NGOs and the unlimited money that the federal government can produce and print up and just as long as they can get the Congress to sign off on some omnibus bill, then they have almost unlimited money. That kind of, you know, starving of the beast, you know, starving of the monster, that might be something that actually prevents serious problems this summer like they don't have the funding to to have all the the you know transporting people around like i forget the name of the the um food truck that was going from

dc from from washington all over the country the the uh meals or whatever. Oh, yeah. Wow. That was a while ago. Yeah. I forget the name of it. But the point is, like these things that were happening, they were funded. And a lot of it seems like it was coming through, whether it be USAID or funding to NGOs. If we can actually cut off that funding, if the Trump administration can actually cut

off that funding, you might be able to get a real real understanding of what the american people actually think as opposed to what they're you know what they're led to believe because of ngos and narrative bills so let me let me let me let me just see if i get what phil's saying real quick so you're basically saying i think you are saying similar thing, is that this whole thing is one big self-fulfilling prophecy. And the administration's actions can destroy one of those events in the cycle. Hopefully. The events in the cycle is Biden goes after Trump. Trump does something about it.

Left freaks out. Trump does something. And then, you know, left decides to go after Trump again. So if we can destroy the left's outrage machine that that you think disassembles the cycle and you don't need to be so concerned with those types of political consequences that we were further than that, further than that, it might be that the reason the left is has had such influence on society overall is because of the money that was being pumped in so we might actually not have a representation of what people do actually think in this country because it's been skewed by leftist funding leftist narrative building and stuff like that so if we if it's possible it's possible that they have actually by breaking that that cycle you might have have a new understanding of what the American people are.

Real people. We've got breaking news, my friends. I don't know if it's breaking. I just saw it. There we go. 551. Governor Patrick Morrissey of West Virginia boost has signed the ban on artificial food dyes and other chemicals in food starting January 1st, 2028. You cannot sell food in West Virginia if it contains one of seven dyes and other fake

garbage. This is epic. There were concerns the governor was being pressured by major food lobbying groups saying the state will lose billions of dollars. In the end, he did the right thing and the difficult thing as a good leader. And he banned it. The New York Times says in the most sweeping move of its kind, West Virginia has banned foods containing most artificial food dyes and two preservatives, citing their health risks. The legislation signed into law Monday by Governor Patrick Morrissey will go into effect in 2028. At least 20 states are considering similar restrictions on food chemicals. But West Virginia is the first to ban virtually all artificial dyes from foods sold statewide. Quote, everybody realizes that we've got to do something about food in general, said Adam

Berkhamer, a Republican state rep who introduced the bill in February. It quickly passed both legislative houses with broad bipartisan support. Mr. Berkhamer said he hopes the law will improve the health of children in his state and spur other states to take similar actions. California has passed similar measures, though they were narrower in scope. One passed in 2023, banned four food additives statewide, and 2024 banned artificial food dyes from school meals. I just want to say this is incredibly epic. The economic opportunity for West Virginia knows no bounds at this point. And while I have my beef with the state over their ridiculous Uber laws, I think we can get that stuff reversed.

This is massive. we discussed what this means already food tourism if you're a mom living in suburban maryland maybe you're in hagerstown or you're in uh frederick you are absolutely going to drive the 30 minutes to the supermarket in west virginia where you know every single food item is going to be devoid of this garbage. It's epic. Look, if we're hanging out in the tri-state, Virginia, Maryland, West Virginia, and we want to go to a restaurant, you think I'm going to, you know what I can't stand? When we go to these diners, and Allison and I, my wife, we've gone around, none of them

use real butter. You sit down and you're like, I would like pancakes. And they take the spray under the pan and I'm like, I don't want to eat that. And then they hand you hydrolyzed soy or whatever, hydrogenated vegetable oil to spread with salt in it. There are some places that give you little pads of butter, but you still know they're using weird aerosol cooking spray vegetable garbage. Now, that's not being banned, but if it's got some of these preservatives, it will be, and they're very common.

More importantly, the food dyes are out. So we went to, they have a little farmer's market, a farmer's market, and they've got licorice. And it's this farmhouse licorice. It's like local distribution, and it's got all the artificial dyes in it. I think it might have even had the carmine color. The cockineal mite paste.

Eat the bugs. I'm stoked. I'm so stoked on this. Shout out to Patrick Morris. Day one in office, he brought back religious exemptions for families. So kids cannot get all the vaccines if you don't want to do that. Even private schools in West Virginia are following the vaccine schedule. He's actually neighbors.

We're neighbors. Oh, sweet. Yeah, he lives in the area. To be fair, a lot of people live in this area because the eastern panhandle is close to D.C. But they actually now, I think he's in Charleston, which is the capital. So he probably has dual residency. But all of the locals around, they all know him. And they say he's fantastic. When he won, people out here were like,

they almost couldn't believe it because it was, you know, remember when Obama was going to win and there was that narrative that it was actual change? When Morrissey won and justice gets out, people were like, Morrissey's actually based. And so he's held true to his word. I was concerned because when the legislature passed this, they had a veto-proof majority. So it's like, what are you going to do anyway? But I know the challenges when you are presented with all of these major food producers who are like, we generate billions in revenue in your state. And you are saying we can't sell this product anymore. We're going to leave.

What does that mean for your schools, for your roads? What does that mean for your supermarkets? What are the costs going to turn into? Who's going to replace that? It's a very, very difficult decision. But I'm going to tell you now, if you're listening, well, the opportunity is endless. West Virginia's got three years, just shy of three years, to produce Froot Loops without artificial dyes. The question then becomes, will Kellogg's Post and these other companies actually do it? They're going to go through a cost benefit analysis. How much money are we going to lose if we don't sell in West Virginia?

Is it $50 million a year? Who knows? Okay, how much will it cost to change and create a line of non-artificial food dye cereals? It's going to be expensive to create that whole line. Okay, how about changing it for the whole country? It might cost us $40, $50 million to redo the recipe and get rid of the food dyes. How much are we going to lose in sales? Because we know people don't buy the dimmer, less vibrant colors. That was the argument made by the food producers. They created cereals without the

artificial food dyes. Nobody sales went down. People like the color. So they brought them back. They're not going to abandon a billion in sales outside of West Virginia. That means venture capitalists right now need to get on this. You invest in West Virginia. You will own food production and it's food. It's it's it. You can't lose. It's guaranteed money. Population's growing out here, too. Good time to do it. The houses are growing up through the ground overnight. Sadly, I think West Virginia doesn't

have the sway over the national regulatory scene that California does. It's the first domino, and there's so many red states right now that if they follow West Virginia's lead on this right they need to act in concert create that critical mass the reason that california has been able to dictate terms for so long is because it's been such a big state what if red states actually worked together

right if if so he gave 2028 is when this kicks in okay imagine by the end of 2026, 13, 14, 15, 16 different red states had put in place similar laws. And MAHA could really get involved in that. You just need to make it more expensive and more expensive and more expensive for these people to not offer alternatives. I want to stress, though, they banned blue 1,

blue 2, green 3, yellow 5, yellow 6, red 40, red 3. They didn't ban carmine color. Dang. Oh, yellow 6, red 40, red 3. They didn't ban carmine color. Dang. Oh, no. So the bugs are still there. The bugs will still be available for consumption.

Man, I have a feeling the bugs are actually not as bad for you as people think. They sound gross. Agreed. But I have a feeling that it's probably not terrible for you. They're bugs. Right, right. It sounds gross, but they're animals. Better than petroleum byproducts. It's better than that yellow that comes from tar or whatever it is, right?

Tartrazine. Tartrazine, that's it. So, uh, butylated hydrox... People don't even have to consider eating the bugs. Right. Because the food's healthy. It's un-American. Butylated hydroxyanisole, BHA, prevents fats from going rancid, has been banned.

And it looks like propylparaben was banned in 2020. Oh, I don't know. West Virginia will prohibit. Yeah. Propylparaben was banned at Propylparaben in California. It's used in tortilla chips, processed cheese, and packaged baked goods. Did you guys know what propylene glycol is? No.

So we use that at O'Hare Airport to de-ice planes. Ethylene glycol, more commonly known as antifreeze. Propylene glycol is a bit different. We had two mixtures. We had a 50-50 concentration, and then we had, I think we had a 100% concentration. I could be wrong. So what you do is you get the orange and the green, right? You get up in a big cherry picker on a truck.

I used to do this. It's what for a living was fun. And you'd wear crazy gear in a blizzard and we'd grab the hose and we'd open it up and blast the plane, just the whole wing, just with this orange sludge, which was heated 50, 50, 50, 50 glycol water mixture. The reason why you use the glycol is it doesn't freeze. Anti-freeze, right? It's not ethylene glycol. It's not the kind that kills dogs. And then the thicker mixture was a sludge, a cold sludge, which you'd put on afterwards. You'd hit a lever or whatever. And this

would stop ice from forming on the plane for a certain amount of time. So it's like a wax? Like a car wax, basically? It seals it? It's like a gel. A gel that sits on the window. No, no, no. A gel, but the purpose is to seal it from ice. Seal it off.

No, it's to coat it in a gel that can't freeze. Okay. So it falls off. It schloffs off. It's like, it's, I don't know. It's not like Jell-O. It's like a gel, you know? And they put it in food.

They put it in your baked goods. You go to the gas station, you grab. So they added it to baked goods to simulate fat. And a lot of what we do with our food simulates fat. So right now there's concerns colon cancer is skyrocketing among millennials. One theory is that the gum we add to all of our foods, there's a gallon gum. There's guar gum. What's the other one? Xanthan gum. There's another one.

It's not to the tea, I think. Yeah, I don't know. But the argument is these things are not food, but they add a thickness to the food. So it gets jammed up in your in your colon, causing absorption problems, causing disorders and obesity and cancers is one theory. We put that in to simulate fat. So I have this really great coconut milk that I love. I'm not going to drag them. They put gallon gum in it.

And so we decided to stop buying it because I'm like, look, you take a coconut, you give me the coconut meat from the inside and the coconut milk the water and i'll make something with it but they want it to be thicker like regular milk which is thick because of fat and calcium largely fat cream yep gotta get rid of all they are poisoning all of our foods i recommend you all look up propylene glycol and ask yourselves if you want to eat it right They say it's safe to eat, but... Let's get the floor out of the water, too. I mean, just because it's safe to eat doesn't mean you want to eat it, right? I mean, I don't have any strong desire to eat propylene glycol. It doesn't sound appealing.

Viscous. That is how it's described. It's described as viscous. There we go. Yep. Sounds delicious. Yep. It's used as a food additive.

It's considered as GRAS by the FDA, generally recognized as safe. That's going to get banned. Good. RFK Jr. said he was going to be taking away the grass exemption. Great. So they're going to... gonna dude it is wild that propylene glycol is approved as uses for as a vehicle for topical oral and some intravenous pharmaceutical preparations uh it's used as a food uh whatever industrial uses it's mainly used as uh mainly produced from

propylene oxide but uh i don't care about its production tell me what they what they use it for 45 of propylene glycol produced is used as chemical feedstock for the production of unsaturated polyester resins. In this regard, propylene glycol reacts to the mixture of unsaturated malic anhydride and isophalic acid to give a copolymer. This partially unsaturated polymer undergoes further cross-linking to yield thermoset plastics. Related to the application, propylene glycol reacts with propylene oxide to give oligomers. If you know what these things are, I have no idea what's going on. None of this shit should be in the human system. It's used as an anti-caking agent, an emulsifier, a flavor agent, humectant, texturizer, stabilizer, solvent, antioxidant, really antimicrobial and thickener.

I think it's disgusting. And it's antifreeze. There you go. See, I told you. This is what we used to do. See this little thing? I used to do that. You blast the plane.

It was a lot of fun. Everybody wanted to do de-icing because it doesn't snow. Snow doesn't come. So you have to be on staff as a lot of fun. Everybody wanted to do de-icing because it doesn't snow. It's snow doesn't come. So if you have to be on staff as a de-icer. And so here's how it works. You're in the union. You make buddies with the head of the union. That's what I did.

I made I made friends with one executive board members who eventually got elected vice president. And then I said, the next rotation comes up. I want to do de-icing. He goes, done de-icing. You're usually just playing xbox all day then if it snows then you get to ride around in the top of a cherry picker decked out and all this like you get a jumpsuit you put it on and then you blast the planes of the hose it's one of the easier jobs to do and it's a lot of fun you have like this big fire hose and one guy told

me a story where his buddy was walking down like pathway, and he blasted him with hot propylene glycol and just drenched him with it. And we were like, and then the guy training us on it was like, you know, they say it's fine to eat. And we all just looked at each other like, is that guy okay? He got blasted with an industrial antifreeze. He's a superhero now. I don't know. He's probably got cancer. He's a big superhero.

It's one or the other. Oh, wait, what? They use it for vape? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Propylene glycol is aerosolized to resemble smoke. Veterinary medicine. Freezing point.

What are you smoking there? Tobacco? What about you? Antifreeze? Huh. Aerosolized antifreeze which one do you think is healthier what was the one go down for preserving insects or something wait what i missed it preserving insects i was reading like half of it and it disappeared what's what's humectant

mean a hygroscopic water absorbing substance used to keep things moist yep it's like that there you go that's why they put it in baked baked goods in the grocery store because it feels like it's moist like cake when it's actually should be disgusting or for trapping and preserving insects which which one you were just on it it's like right there oh right there for including as a dna preservative wow oh these are for smoke machines man this is some pretty good stuff when When used in average quantities, propylene glycol has no measurable effect on the development and or reproduction on animals and probably does not adversely affect human development or reproduction without active use. What does that mean?

I call BS. Safety of electronic cigarettes. It must be the opposite. The safety of electronic cigarettes, which utilize propylene glycol-based preparations of nicotine or THC and other cannabinoids, is the subject of much controversy. Vitamin E acetate has also been identified in this controversy. See LD50 there, which is the name of a Mudvayne album. So. Just want to throw that out there.

Take America healthy again. Let's go. Yeah. So does anyone know, I know somewhat of, you know, seed oils started as oil to lubricate heavy machinery. Canola. I think it's canola specifically, right? Canola, yeah. Okay.

So who's the wise guy who started applying these compounds, these materials to food? Like I really don't – I haven't read anything on that. I'm not super up on all the Maha stuff. But these applications to food, i mean for someone to be like i'm gonna lubricate my machine with this and i'm gonna take a swig of it that seems insane to me well i don't know if anybody got swig i know but how do you how anyone got how you got here in the first place are you familiar with sucralose no splenda yeah yeah okay splenda is a brand name for sucralose as the story goes, what I can't say is definitively

true, because we've looked it up and we've put it on the show, a research student had mixed chlorine with sugar and the professor or whatever said, test it. And he thought he said taste it, so he tasted it and said it's sweet. My understanding is that they're trying to make a pesticide. By combining

chlorine with sugar, the sugar would attract insects and the chlorine would kill them. Right. Wow. And then we decided, hey, why don't we put this in little packets

and put it in all our food? People are like insects. Gross. Yeah. That's how they think. It's like when they wanted fluoride in the water. People are like insects.

They were like, it'll fix the cavities. All right, we're going to go to Rumble Rants and Super Chat. So smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. If you really do like the show, you got to share it. You got to share it. to go to Rumble Rants and Super Chat. So smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. If you really do like the show, you got to share it. You got to share it.

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Jamie Brockendale says, hilarious, the feminist snow white goes against everything disney stands for she dedicates her life to doing her uh doing what her white male father told her to do literally bowing down to the patriarchy you guys saw that feminist snow white bombed yes miserably surprised apparently fully so apparently after they started making it peter dinklage said you're bigots for having dwarves. So they decided to go with the seven companions instead. Then everyone mocked them. So they said, we've got to do the dwarves.

But what do we do with all this footage we paid for of seven racially and gender diverse companions? Both. They did both. Good. Amazing. So there's two groups of weird seven people. And it's like, that's not Snow White, I guess. And then Snow White, there's no Prince.

He's a dirtbag leftist. That's actually what the left has been calling him. Like a male feminist type? No, he's a dirtbag leftist. He's like, it's like dirtbag leftists are anti-woke, but they're far left, anti-establishment. Gotcha. Yeah. And so I don't really

know if dirtbag left like destiny um i don't know would you describe that i just hear dirtbag and think that i could be wrong no they're like they're like antifa types but they don't get down with all the weird racial stuff okay so they're anarchists who want to firebomb things they're like they're like black block activists in during the occupying movement i guess i got you it's like the weird progressive gender stuff is like what are you talking about they're about class but uh he convinces her to run away and lead a revolt against the evil fascist queen and then uh snow white defeats the queen by reminding the guards of what their names are she says says like, your name is this. And remember what it used to be like.

And then the guards turn on the evil queen who then kills herself. Wow. She like runs away and then smashes the mirror, killing herself. Wow. Sounds great. Yeah. Yeah.

It's super cringe. They canceled the red carpet. The theaters were all empty. People were posting videos of their theater ticket screens. And it's like, there's no seats purchased. People were all empty. People were posting videos of their theater ticket screens, and it's like there's no seats purchased. People were filming empty theaters. I feel kind of bad because this arrogant Rachel Zegler didn't understand. She thought what she was doing was popular, but they don't get it.

And she's got this viral video where she says, to all the haters out there, to everybody who's trying to bring me down, I just hope that when I make a movie or music or whatever, people wait in line to see me. Yeah. Yup. That one hurts. Yeah. Superpooper says, E-Led is a communist. Too bad he's not here.

Yep. String Raider says, why isn't the leprechaun holding a spoon? Oh, that's referring to Luck of the Shameless over at Casperoo.com. Happy Gilmore says, my first rant on Rumble. Amazing that more people are viewing on Rumble than YouTube.

We are winning. Indeed. So the audience is split a little bit. A lot of people from YouTube went over to Rumble instead. We have about 45,000 on Rumble and 35,000 on YouTube. So still very big, very big numbers. When we did the deal with Rumble and we started promoting the show on Rumble and thirty five thousand on YouTube. So still very big, very big numbers. When we when we did the deal with Rumble and we started promoting the show on Rumble, our viewership just spiked because the Rumble audience is a different group of people.

And now many people from the YouTube have switched to Rumble, but we still have a strong YouTube presence. There are a lot of people who are very confused because they thought Stephen Crowder's announcement about getting off YouTube applied to Timcast IRL. It did not. And I said that from the get-go. The Tim Pool Morning Show Live is exclusive to Rumble, but Timcast IRL is available on all platforms. So, you know, I think the main issue is that the morning show is kind of, you know, I started doing live streams this year. I did some last year and decided I would do a 10 a.m. live stream. We moved it to noon again.

But this is just me by myself where I just go live and do a segment I would normally do. So there's no real issue with us just saying, you know, there is an audience there, but they haven't been subscribed to this channel for years specifically for a live show. Whereas with TimCast I irl we've got people who have listened to the show for five years now who watch on the youtube tv app and if we just blanket switched over they would just be left confused and not know what's going on yeah so we're gonna we're gonna keep both up for the time being but the morning show will be exclusive last time i was here you guys were talking about the youtube rumble balance you're like ah we've done

a lot to invest in youtube so to see the rumble doing balance. You're like, ah, we've done a lot to invest in YouTube. So to see the Rumble doing crazy numbers like that, like good for you guys. That's awesome. Well, see, here's the thing. Rumble is actively trying to promote video podcasts. Yeah. YouTube is actively trying to suppress video podcast. I think YouTube may have turned around when they realize the power of podcasting. But dude, for 10 years, YouTube was doing everything in their power to crush video podcasts. They were like, oh, what's going on? Why are people talking about politics? We don't want this. It's bad for advertising. And so they started demonetizing people, suspending people, banning channels. Now, whoopsie, Spotify is desperately trying to get in the game.

Rumble existed and adopted and said, you want to get rid of these video podcast shows? We'll take them. And now they have the biggest shows in the world. So I will say outright, Dan Bongino had the biggest live stream in the world and one of the biggest podcasts in the world. I'm pretty sure Dan Bongino, who since left to go serve the public, I'm pretty sure he had the biggest live stream show in the world.

I could be wrong. Definitely the United States. But he was averaging 150 to 170,000 concurrence. And yeah, he had 3.5 million subscribers. So he consistently was hitting the biggest show in the world. Steven Crowder now is getting the biggest show in the country.

I'm not sure the world though. There may be some Asian video gamers who get way more. And Kai Sinat regularly gets 300 000 but crowder rivals that with a more consistent basis but i can say at least in terms of news rumble has all of the biggest cultural and political shows 100 yep so with the with the launch of the rumble morning lineup this morning at 77 000 concurrent viewers watching it's kind of crazy to see those numbers at any one time. And then the shows are getting half a million per episode now, five days a week.

It's nuts. Same thing for Jeremy Hambly and Viva Frye. The viewership is skyrocketing because Rumble is actively trying to promote and build up a space that Spotify is also desperately trying to build up and that YouTube actively suppressed. Whoopsie.

That rocks. Shout out Dan Bongino for believing in the project too. Yep. Yeah, man. Yep. And the big question now is, of course, YouTube is a major player with billions of views, but those views are largely Mr. Beast. They're entertaining vlogs from people like Mr. Beast. Video podcasting, cable network is done. Cable TV is done. Where will the average person go to consume audio-based news and culture? It's going to be video podcasts. So despite the fact that you compare TimCast IRL numbers to like MrBeast or some of these other shows, I look at some of these other YouTube creators and they get like 5 million

views on one video they make, but they do like one a week because they're like highly produced. It's interesting to see that with less viewerships in the political space, you make substantially more money because it's like a pyramid. If you do an entertainment show like gaming, you're going to get a massive audience of generalists. They're going to watch you play a video game. When you're talking about politics, it's particularly esoteric, but politics controls everything. So specific ad rates can be way more valuable when you're talking about politics, it's particularly esoteric. But politics controls everything. So specific ad rates can be way more valuable when you're talking politics. It's an interesting space to be in right now.

That's cool. And I bet somebody got fired at YouTube. For real, I bet there's executives being like, you mean all of the big video podcasts? There was nothing else. It was just YouTube. Now it's YouTube, Spotify, and R rumble and then not to mention there's other platforms too there's there's places like bit shoot but and and x is trying to get in the space youtube had a monopoly on video podcasting and they gave it away they they they actually battered their monopoly and got rid of it that blew my mind but so be it. That's what you do, YouTube. Congrats.

The interesting thing now is this next year in advertising is going to be real crazy. With Rumble hitting these massive numbers and having the biggest shows in the country, it's going to be a game changer. We'll see, though. Beware of soda. We'll grab some Super Chats. All right. What do we have here?

Brad Matuzik says, The Atlantic goes on to state additional facilitating strike team members on the thread to include Hawk, Duke, Flint, and Beachhead. Is that a joke? Is that a TV show reference? Those are G.I. Joe characters. Okay, I figured. There you go. At least they had our top down or something. Zany Zan says,

Big fan, Tim. Can I get a shout out to Sylvia in Mexico? Shout out, Sylvia. Mexico's great. I love Mexico. They got Buffalo Wild Wings. Just don't come up here. Just stay in Mexico, Sylvia.

We don't want anything bad to happen to you, Sylvia. All right. Minimat says says x sam's cashier 98 accuracy you can guess form of payment cart mostly empty essential goods food cash debit cart what is this about i don't know what you mean prices are going down is that the point there was a viral post from reddit where someone said something is strange is going on costs at costco prices are dropping dramatically yeah how is this possible this shouldn't be happening and it's like uh-oh uh-oh i mean good things for the economy or you know bad things from just got a voter for 2028 i know right liberate usa says just want to thank tim for pronouncing my name correctly

in previous episodes indeed nice liber says, got an actual question. Can you start doing a Saturday show once a month only on Rumble Premium? I really need y'all some weekends. So here's the plan. The first Culture War Live is set for the beginning of May. We're doing it as a pilot, so we're doing it low budget. I actually asked the team if you want to do ultra high budget. It's like, let's just get a big casino venue and sell tickets and get a thousand seats or some

ridiculous amount. And I was like, no, no, no, we should do a pilot. So we're going to have like 40 or 50 seats. We're going to do a debate. Members of Timcast.com Discord will be able to come up on stage and join at the table with us and debate us. You're going to be vetted. As members, you'll RSVP. The tickets will be free, but you got to be a member. So sign up for a member, 10 bucks a month for at least six months or $25 to start right away. You can then submit your debate concept, a single sentence, couple sentences, whatever. We will then have someone at the crew or maybe even the discord choose. Maybe I think maybe we'll do that way they can vote on

who they think should actually come up and debate no maybe not because we might need diversity in terms of like the people not like leftist diversity we need different people every week yeah but uh then you'll come up and i think we're gonna do five people over the two hours from the members who will come and join us to debate on stage when When we do this, these will be held on Saturday nights, which means there will be a Friday morning news show. Culture War will move to a different time slot we need to figure out. And then there will be bonus segments on the weekend from the Tim Kess morning show. So we've got big plans where I'm going to be doing substantially more work and having substantially less time off. And my wife is going to get very mad when she finds out no one tell her no she knows she knows she's actually doing the work to help plan it and

set it all up she's actually submitting a debate prompt which is why the heck would you work this much she's actually upset because now that we we just had the baby she has mom work congratulations thank you thank you very much but mom work is tough. It's very tough work. And it offends me that so many feminists disparage the mom work stuff. Dad work seems chill. It offends me that so many feminists. Yes. But like dad, dad work is hard work, too. Of course.

And so, you know, I'm going to go and do the shows. I'm going to do a morning show and a night show. We're going to bring home the bacon. But mom work is taking care of a creature that cries bloody murder for literally anything. And it is funny because I know there's a lot of people who have had way more kids than I and have been through this. But as a new dad, I had this funny idea for a skit where I was just imagining, could you imagine if every adult human handled their problems the way a baby does? Like a guy's at work and his coffee's empty and he looks up and just starts bashing his face screaming so leftists exactly that's exactly what

allison said nice she was like like leftists and i was like hey job allison yeah they're like babies everyone just walking around screaming the top of their lungs until someone refills their coffee but i i love i love my baby and um it's just when she cries bloody murder i'm just laughing because i'm like you know to the baby this is the end of the world i need literally the worst thing that has ever happened exactly because there's only like three things that have happened exactly so she's screaming and beat red and i'm like she just wants to drink a protein shake. It's so cute. Yeah.

We're trying the goat milk protein shakes because we have the hipster baby. Nice. Yeah, that's what we did with our first. Goat milk? Goat milk, yep. Because some babies, there's concern that they can't digest the cow proteins that are in it or whatever. That's what our firstborn had. Yeah. Oh, okay.

He couldn't digest the cow protein, so there was blood in the stool. And goat milk fixed it. We didn't have anything like that. She, you know, baby just might have an upset stomach. And so they just recommended we try goat milk and see if that makes a difference. But for the most part, we're trying not to use formula. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, there's a lot of bad stuff in formula. Yes. And there's like old formula companies that were good that were bought by bigger companies. And they put the bad stuff in it. Probably like the stuff they pour on airplanes in Chicago. I recommend people have as many babies as they can have lots of babies agreed as many as you can maybe for some people that's 12 maybe for some people that's one yeah yeah dj watson says i love all your shows but irl is my favorite by far if you wouldn't mind shouting out my buddy's new

company mankybusiness.com selling japanese pokemon cards one of the few places in the u.s there you go it's crazy how valuable Pokemon cards are. Yeah, it's great. I once had a whole bunch of first edition Charizards. I guess that's like millions of dollars that are gone. Shucks. Yep. It's like those Bitcoin you lost in that computer.

That's true. It's crazy. Hoard everything. Just never throw anything away because you never know. I got all mine since I was a kid still, locked up somewhere. I think that collection is like $10,000 at some point at this point. It's going to pay for my kids going to college. Like, what was, well, I mean, you're 27.

Yeah. No, I had like first generation, second generation cards. Like the first original edition or whatever? I mean, not like the Japanese one. No, no, no, but like the first set that came out yeah yeah because you would have been a baby yeah i know i got all these like a year or two later when it wasn't a big thing um i so you were like one or two no i was really young when i got into it i would say like i was like four when i started like wow like in pokemon yeah yeah because i remember when it came out and i think i was like

10 or 11, and so I had tons of Pokemon cards. I was playing Magic the Gathering before that, and I had a binder with a bunch of Charizards in it. Who didn't? Everybody had a bunch of Charizards. Now they're worth $250,000. Do you think my Pogs are worth anything?

Yes. Really? For real? What is that? Thanks. Phil's trying to shoot it down. You don't know what Pogs are? I had this idea.

The greatest sports ever. I got an idea. Who wants... This is a shout out to everybody watching right now. My idea. I want to open a hotel. Maybe a Verbo Airbnb. That's going to have... It probably would just have five rooms. One room.

It's the 1950s. 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. You go into the 80s hotel room. You book it. Everything is from the 1950s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. You go into the 80s hotel room, you book it. Everything is from the 80s. 80s couch, 80s TV. You turn the TV on, it's analog TV, and it will literally play a, like, I think the max we would do is like three days, but it'll actually play, we'll get, we'll get a, we'll get a, um, like an Arduino or like a Raspberry Pi or something.

Not an Arduino, Raspberry Pi. And we will have it play television from that period and you will actually turn the dial, UHF, VHF, and you can watch in real time at 7 a.m. here in New York. You're watching in whatever news program, with the actual news program of that time.

The windows will be TV screens that you will be able to look out and you will be in, like when you look out, when you look into the screen in the window, it looks like you're in 1980s New York or whatever, or wherever it might be. So this has been, I've had this idea for like eight years.

Just need somebody who wants to do it. We got the capital. The concern is, in all seriousness, do you know what the biggest concern with this is? The reason why I bring this up? The amount of money that it would cost to set up those rooms absolutely not no no way super easy you'd have uh we'd have delivery menus on the fridge from like 1980s pizza hut and we'll actually have a guy deliver it to you dressed in the old uniform with the old coke and everything i was imagining all

the like original nice stuff from then money's is no problem. A business costs money, and people will pay to go there. What's the biggest problem? No ideas? Nope. No. You can pick up the phone and actually... The biggest problem is suicides. That's why I say the pogs are so valuable.

The actual consideration, and it's not a joke, is that there's going to be some guy who's 50, and he's going to book the 1980s room and his wife divorced him. And he's going to be sitting in the 1980s remembering when he was a young man and life was good. And he's going to be crying himself. And then so we don't know how to handle. You can transition to it like a maid program like in Canada. No, let's not. Like a nicer suicide pod for people.

Let's not. It's like a nicer suicide pod for people. Let's not. When I brought this up to my buddies in business, they said an intense nostalgia like that will attract people who are desperate and sad. Oh, wow. And you may end up with people who are in rough times wanting to re-experience a moment of happiness, and then you may have a higher density of suicides and self-harm than any other business.

How morbid. Well, that escalated quickly. Reminded me of the suicide forest in Japan. You see? All right, my friends. We're going to go to that uncensored call-in show at rumble.com slash timcast IRL. So smash that like button. That last story.

Share the show with everyone you know and become a Rumble Premium member so you can watch. Use promo code timcast10. You can follow me on X at Instagram at TIMCAST. You want to shout anything out before we go? Yeah. Bradley Devlin, politics editor at The Daily Signal. Follow me on X at Bradley Devlin. Also follow my work, not only at The Daily Signal, but on The Daily Signal's YouTube page. I am the host of a show called The Signal Sit-Down, where we try to interview lawmakers and other policymakers in Washington, D.C., show you how the sausage gets made because it's your government and we need to take it back.

And the only way that we're going to do that is so that you know how it actually works. That was a fun one. You can find me online at Shane Cashman. Our show is Inverted World Live every Sunday at 6 p.m. You can find us on YouTube and Rumble. And this Saturday, I'm going to be at the Grifties as a presenter with Miley Anopolis, Alex Stein, the Hoteps. So you can check it out.

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