Timcast IRL - Trump Admin Hints At CRIMINAL CHARGES For Fauci In BOMBSHELL Report w/Angry Cops, Tiffany Cianci, Andrew Branca
Episode Date: April 19, 2025Tim & Libby are joined by Tiffany Cianci, Angry Cops, & Andrew Branca to discuss the Trump administration hinting at criminal charges for Anthony Fauci, President Trump dropping proof that Abrego Garc...ia was an MS-13 gang member, the wife of Abrego Garcia appearing under duress during an interview about domestic violence, and Austin Metcalf's family being swatted. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Libby @LibbyEmmons (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guests: Tiffany Cianci @TheVinoMom (X) Angry Cops @AngryCops (X, YouTube) Andrew Branca @LawSelfDefense (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The White House has repurposed covid.gov into the origins of the lab leak.
Now, that alone is what's being reported.
But when you start to read through it, what gets interesting is that it appears it appears
to me that they're gearing up public support for the prosecution of Anthony Fauci, or at least
they're trying to create this perception that he is culpable for what happened during the
covid lockdowns. The first half of this report largely just talks about things Fauci lied about
and then abruptly shows the pardon of Fauci from Joe Biden, which, of course, Donald Trump has said
was void already.
Interesting. We'll go through this. Maybe I'm wrong, but we will. Then we've got the story that won't go away. Abrego Garcia. Many of you may have seen that that Democrat senator went
down to go meet with him. And I I got to say, it's largely backfiring. More than half the country
wants all illegal immigrants deported. Even Newsweek pointed out that 54 percent, according
to Echelon, want all the illegal immigrants deported and they largely don't care about the
intricacies of a Brego Garcia's case. So when Democrats go down there and they dedicate everything
to defending an MS-13 gang member, it doesn't help. It just makes things worse. Interestingly,
in one of these stories, his wife on TV goes dead silent when asked about
how he beat her mercilessly. And in a photograph, she covered up what appears to be his gang tattoos.
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We've got a full panel of amazing people tonight.
We got angry cops hanging out.
I'm so angry.
Who are you?
I'm just a random guy from the internet
that you brought along to be a smart ass
and here I am to do that.
He was making jokes and I was like,
let's just tell him to sit in the chair.
Yeah, just have me sit in a chair
and say stupid things around smart people.
That's pretty much my job.
Surrounded by smart people
and I say dumb things
that make them want to keep me around.
What if you're in court though?
I still do that.
I just get a look from the prosecution.
So you are an angry cop
yourself i'm an angry cop myself i'm a detective out of the city of buffalo in our special victims
unit and i'm a reserve u.s army drill sergeant wow so you're doing it all and youtuber i don't
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guys i have so much fun when I come out here.
For anyone who doesn't know me, I'm a small business advocate.
I regularly testify before Congress, the FTC, and I help fundraise for small businesses fighting off big corporations that are trying to shut them down.
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Yes, I'm an attorney and a member of the Supreme Court Bar whose expertise is use of force
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I'm here. Glad to be with everybody. I'm with the Postmillennial and we can get started.
Here we go, ladies and gentlemen, from the White House itself. Look at this. Whitehouse.gov. Lab leak. True origins of COVID-19.
And right here is this interesting photo of Fauci touching his forehead where it shows the grant of clemency from Joseph R. Biden.
And it says a full and unconditional pardon for any offenses against the United States,
which he may have committed or taken pardon from January 1st, 2014. Now, the reason that's
interesting is that this is the repurposed covid.gov, which highlights the lab leak origins.
It goes on to basically say, here are the origins. Here's the Wuhan Institute of Virology in the wet
market. But what I find really interesting is that it basically basically goes through how Fauci and with his funding
through Peter Daszak into the Wuhan lab, they were doing gain of function research. It even
says a lab related incident involving gain of function research is the most likely origin.
They mentioned the NIH failures. They then show Fauci's pardon and then they go to show obstruction, lying.
They mention New York obstruction. They mention how they say mask mandates. There was no evidence.
There was no evidence for for lockdowns or social distancing. My view of this. The only reason you
do this is that you are prepping the public for some kind of enforcement action. They don't need to repurpose it and create an entire. I mean, they design this has got code
and graphics and everything. They want public perception on this issue. They showed Donald
Trump. Now, I don't know if we'll ever actually see arrests of people who we feel did wrong at
any point in time in the previous administration or otherwise. I mean, Fauci was working in the
Trump administration. That being said, the rumor is, come summertime,
we will see some kind of arrests.
I don't know if you guys agree with that
or believe we'll see anything like that,
but what do you think?
One thing I'll mention, of course,
is a pardon does not protect you from civil action.
There's no reason the federal government
can't be suing this guy for fraud, malfeasance,
and all the probably trillions of dollars of damages he called
caused to the american people the other thing is the pardon power of course is a core and plenary
power of the article 2 executive branch the president the only branch of government where
the entire authority the executive authority is endowed on one single individual the pardon's
only legitimate if it's backed by that single individual's will. They
chose to do that. If I do a pardon, it doesn't count. If you do a pardon, it doesn't count.
But we don't know for a fact that Joe Biden willed this pardon because it was done by an
auto pen. And there's no other evidence to suggest he even knew this pardon was being issued. And if
it wasn't by his will it
has no more authority than if i issued it or tim issued it there's also that super sketchy video
where they asked him about the pardons and he said he had no idea what they were talking about
really yeah there's like this it's very off the cuff it was like when you they were asking him
questions as he was walking by and they were trying not to let reporters talk to him he said
i don't know what you're talking about uh and he not sign those pardons. I don't believe it.
I mean, he didn't sign.
I mean, we don't have a wet signature on almost anything at all during the last two years.
They used an auto pen.
And he says, yes, I authorize the auto pen.
That's legit.
That's fine.
He doesn't have to sign it personally.
The problem is we don't have that connection between his will and the use of the auto pen.
And we know it was being accessed by a variety of people.
You just mentioned what immediately I went to,
which is that a pardon doesn't protect you from anything civil.
And I would not think it out of the realm of possibility,
given Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s track record of outright disdain for Anthony Fauci
and his book, The Real Anthony Fauci,
which most of those talking points were almost taken letter for letter from, I would not be shocked if they started posting documents
here that could help the civil cases to start. That would not shock me. Reminding people,
Anthony Fauci was the highest paid government official for many, many, many years, more than
the president, more than anybody else in government. He's getting a huge amount in retirement now too, right?
He had 3.5 million the first year.
Retired?
Retired.
But they said that some of that money
overlapped while he was still working
and he wasn't supposed to.
There was just an article,
what was it?
There was an article that came out earlier today,
like five, six hours ago,
where they said that it looks like
maybe there was some failure to disclose
that he wasn't quite retired and was already accepting money.
It sounds like gain of pension research.
That's clever.
Well, he lied to Congress.
We I would say now with the White House asserting they were doing gain of function research.
I mean, we've got contradictory statements from Fauci in in court saying outright we
did not do this.
Yeah, he was very clear on that. He was very clear that they weren't doing gain of function
research. And also he was doubling down on all of these mandates and requirements,
the six foot thing, the mask thing. And then when books started coming out, what was it,
Dr. Deborah Burke's book came out and it was revealed that the six foot thing was just
made an arbitrary measurement. What they were doing since middle,
the middle ages or something.
It's like,
it was just always been six foot.
So we never really questioned it.
It was made of a horse length.
Right.
I mean,
I guess there's that thing where you like bury bodies six feet underground
so that bacteria doesn't come up.
But like between people,
that's not really the same kind of thing.
One of my favorite things was the double masking,
which I literally,
you watch it emerge in the media.
First, someone randomly and arbitrarily asks Dr. Fauci, if a mask protects you, wouldn't two masks
be better? And he shrugged it off like, I don't know. And then the media started running with
two masks are better. And then once it got reported that two masks are better, Fauci just
agreed with it. And he started wearing two masks. Yep. My favorite mask, though,
had to have been Alyssa Milano's crocheted mask. The knit one.
You have a favorite mask?
That was my favorite one
because she took a picture,
a selfie of her and her family in their car,
and they were all masked up,
and she was like,
I made mine.
And everyone was like,
you realize there's holes in it.
Because she's secretly based.
Yeah.
She's letting it slide.
She's secretly, not so secretly an idiot. The truth is there are
holes in all masks of varying sizes
and that just showed they didn't
actually care if they worked or not.
It was just put something on your face. No.
One of the things that was really hard, like I ran
a small business that was shut down by my county
for 17 months.
And I owned a gymnastics
business for kids and we had to repurpose
our business. We were going to lose everything.
We did lose everything.
Did you bend over backwards to keep it open?
We weren't allowed.
We were fully shuttered.
Larry Hogan actually, his wife's family has investments in martial arts.
So they were given the only exception in our state.
All other sports, all recreation was closed down.
Is that what propelled you into being a small business advocate?
Part of it, yeah.
Yeah, that's a big part of it. And so we were shut down for 17 months, second longest closure in the
United States in my tiny little County, just right down the street from here. And during that time
frame, we had to go to being a virtual school. So we went from being a gymnastics facility to a
virtual school where kids would bring their laptops in and we were only allowed to have 18 of them.
And no matter what their ages were, we had to put siblings in the same pod,
which was so unsafe.
We had three-year-olds alongside 11 and 12-year-olds.
And when they had to go to play in the gym,
they had to be together.
Not safe, my insurance hated it, right?
When they had to go to art class, they were together,
but they weren't anywhere near the same skillset.
And what would happen was they repurposed
all the health department inspectors
that were doing restaurants before us.
And they would come in and harass the kids.
And they would come over and ask, do you have a brother or sister here?
We had to let them.
Like they would come in and they would say they would shut us down by force.
And we didn't let them come in and interrogate children to make sure they didn't have siblings
in the room.
Our kids suffered.
And all these small businesses suffered.
That's another Fauci thing is all of the kids suffered across the entire country.
All the kids suffered.
It's tragic.
Who were in schools with masking and everything else.
And there was no real evidence to suggest.
And this came up repeatedly.
There was no real evidence to suggest that kids were vectors of this illness at all.
I think that, you know, I don't know about revoking pardons necessarily of a previous administration.
Can you revoke a presidential pardon?
I don't.
It is pretty much unprecedented.
It's happened, I think, twice. Give me those examples. Yeah. So I believe at one point, I went all through this a while ago when he first said, when Trump first said he was
revoking pardons. But it's happened twice. One, George W. Bush revoked a pardon that he had given
himself. Ah, OK. And that was different. And he revoked that pardon. And I believe Ulysses S. Grant revoked a pardon.
And in both cases, these pardons were revoked before the pardonee had received the pardon.
So that ended up being the determining factor that pardons were eligible for revocation.
Under the George Bush case, it was because he had given a pardon to someone who then
it turned out that guy's dad gave a ton of money to the GOp and he was like yeah it looks isaac to see was that the
story the 2008 george w bush was granting a pardon to a man named isaac to see but then uh revoked it
the next day yeah i don't think one president can revoke another president's pardon if the pardon was given with authority, if it's legitimate.
If he actually knew it was happening and it wasn't somebody just stuck it in the machine and walked it out.
Then how do you prove that?
I mean, that's the thing, right?
How do you prove that?
You would need like a whistleblower from inside that was a part of it or you would need to be able to question a former president, which is really difficult to do.
Especially when it's one that's mentally retarded.
Well, and then the issue comes up.
I think the auto pen thing.
Say infirm.
Sorry.
When he's mentally infirm.
Infirmed.
I think the auto pen thing is interesting.
I was talking to someone on post-millennial staff who had previously been a congressional staffer.
And he said that the senator he worked for often authorized use of the auto pen.
But that was a direct authorization.
You know, like that was very specific.
Or they just leave it political. They don't try to make it actionable.
They don't try to actually get rid of this pardon, but they just make the whole world know that, hey, the Democrats had a guy in office for four years who is not mentally competent.
This is a problem that is much, I mean, obviously, when it's the president, this is a huge problem. But this is just like, I mean, a direct connection to when they had Dianne Feinstein literally on death's door,
wheeled down to vote, and they're saying, say aye.
And she goes, aye what, dear?
And they're like, say aye.
And she goes, I would like to.
And they're like, say aye.
And she couldn't.
And then the aide reaches across and goes, aye.
And they counted her vote.
She didn't know what she was voting on.
Or there was the woman in Texas over the summer, the lawmaker, who was in a old folks home.
And so she hadn't been shown.
In the dementia ward.
Yes.
Yeah.
By the way.
This is a problem.
You see how Trump signs his executive orders like those first couple days in office?
The big sharpies.
The giant stack of them.
Right.
He signs them on camera, in person, with a with a big pen he loves the ceremony i bet he does that
because he's well aware that because they've always been making claims about his mental
competence right unsupported by any evidence but if he was just auto penning these executive orders
you don't think they would attack them as not being legitimate he also has staff read out what
they are yeah so that everyone hears what they are and he acknowledges what each one is.
And then he signs it. I think that's actually really smart. The other thing that I think,
I don't know what you guys think of this, but it says in this COVID thing, data shows that all
COVID-19 cases stem from a single introduction into humans. This runs contrary to previous
pandemics where there were multiple spillover events. That I think is extremely damning. And it's very similar to what COVID skeptics were saying for years and were canceled from
the internet and from their jobs and everything else for saying.
Except for Jon Stewart, because he was one of them.
Right.
Well, that was really funny how Colbert was going like, when Jon Stewart was like, it's
the lab, it's the lab.
Yep.
And Stephen Colbert was dancing around with the people in in vaccine
costumes and the funny thing is that's the only one most people cite but you know he did that
several times really he had the vax scene was an ongoing segment he did with a bunch of different
weird shenanigans where syringes were dancing around everyone likes to cite that one where
they're on stage doing the stupid dance he's's got a bunch of them, not just the one. Are they equally funny?
What's that?
Are they all equally as funny?
They're funny to us, and at some point,
he's going to argue the intent was to be funny,
so he succeeded.
He's like, joke's on you.
I was only pretending to be retarded,
and we're going to be like, oh, good.
Mentally infirm.
Mentally infirm.
We have to understand that our children,
one of the things that's been really hard
looking back on COVID for me is I teach kids. I teach a lot of special needs kids.
I teach children. And in our county, all of our, all of our test scores tanked. Like my kid's
school went from a nine and a half out of 10 to a four out of 10 in that two year span of their,
of their testing. Most of the kids are now reading three grade levels below when they were at level
at the time that, that the pandemic began. Right? But one of the things that has been striking is that what we
have done is conditioned this entire younger side of the generation that's come up through this
to lose their ability to think imaginatively, which doesn't seem like a big deal if you're like,
oh, they can't pretend to be a fireman or a police officer, right? But it is a very big deal if you
need them to creatively problem solve or innovate. We have literally stunted the ability to innovate because
they don't have, we taught them everything was real. Everything. We taught kids that if you touch
your friend, you could die. And if you don't scrub your hands, you could get sick and you could make
your grandma die. And if you, if you like breach these protocols, We damaged children in ways that we will not know. We will not fully see fleshed out
for decades, but it will
be long-term.
It's going to be catastrophic.
We had a caller on the
Uncensored Call-In Show who made a really interesting point
about autism rates in kids because RFK
Jr. has been talking about this massive
spike.
I'm going to paraphrase the general idea
because the idea was that
what we perceive to be autism in young people today may actually be developmental disabilities
caused by tablets. And some people instantly said, BS, there are kids that are one or two
that are showing autism symptoms. So I want to clarify this, but I do think it's important to talk about. We're seeing
a massive uptick in autism diagnoses now among very young people, children, you know, over the
past 10 years. And while I do think a lot of it is regular old autism, I also think some of it may be
developmental disabilities caused by children being handed tablets.
And so the idea is basically this.
A kid is one and cries.
How do humans handle that?
The human talks to the kid.
Yeah, don't shake your baby.
That's coming from a cop who said that.
I don't know what you're talking about.
But we largely will talk to the kid, right? So I have a new baby.
Baby cries.
And my wife is saying, like, what do you want?
I just fed you and interacting in a normal human way.
Parents now put a tablet in front of the kid or the baby and press play.
That is not a normal social interaction.
So what then happens is in the most formative years of a human's life, when the neural pathways
are being built around how a human needs to interact, they've replaced human social interaction with autoplayed videos.
What do you get?
A child that is dissociative, antisocial.
That may be similar to autism symptoms that is being diagnosed as it,
but it could be technology causing this.
And during COVID, we had kids looking at screens for the full day,
for like six hours a day.
And that's all they had.
The other thing you were mentioning, you know, what was going on during COVID with education.
And the other thing we taught our kids during that time is that education doesn't matter.
Right?
So it's very hard to pull kids back and say, now it matters what your grades are.
Now it matters that you show up for school, even though during COVID, if you were around, this was in Brooklyn, New York, if you were around
someone who had COVID, you couldn't go to school for two weeks. So we already taught them that
education is bogus, that it doesn't matter if you go to school, that it doesn't matter if you learn
anything because they weren't learning anything on the Chromebooks that got sent home. And so now how do you tell a kid who's entering high school, now education matters, even though we have destroyed your education from fourth grade to the present?
And you use the word stunted for this mental, cognitive, and emotional development.
Yes.
And not only might that be possible, it literally has to be possible.
It has to be. It has to have happened.
Because if you took these same children, the same ages, and you put them on a starvation
diet for 18 months, they would not physically develop correctly.
And they would never get that growth back.
You can't get it back.
We all know we learn things best at certain ages.
And once you've lost that opportunity, you can't teach someone how to read or think or
relate in the same way ever again.
It's gone forever.
I actually started a new small business because I was so concerned because one of the things that we saw consistently across all of the drop test scores was this creative problem solving, creative thinking had dropped almost to nothing in all
of the kids that were like one to two, all the way up through like eight. And so I built this
imagination play center. They can pretend to be a police officer. They can pretend to be a camper.
They can pretend to be at a grocery store, whatever. Right. I wanted to give that back
to my community because we, everything went out of business during COVID. We lost 37 children's
businesses in my small town during COVID. We were one of the only ones that survived. So i built it and we built it for eight and under thinking that was the age i could still
impact i actually thought that was the only age we could help so we said eight and under when we
opened then the first week my daughter who's 12 had all her little friends roaming the mall because
it's in a shopping mall they were all out in a pack and she comes to me and she says mom on her
walkie-talkie and she's a mom can we come hang out at the Grove? And I'm like, yeah, but you guys are kind of old and you know,
my tech rule, it's no tech in here. So your friends will have to hand over their cell phones.
She said, that's okay. These 12 and 13 year olds come in. They give me all their cell phones and
like nine of them go into my little doctor's office, my little bakery, my little grocery
store. They spend about one minute afraid someone's going to make fun of them. And then
they spent the next six hours just pretending and i asked them at the end to come
sit with me and tell me like what they thought why it was fun and they said they stole this from us
we didn't have any of this we like i want to do this this was fun we never got to do this
this age group that was supposed to be learning to use their imaginations and develop innovation
and flourish we denied that to them and this this is not, in my opinion, a partisan issue.
Every parent in America knows what we did in this regard.
This is not a partisan issue.
I see it everywhere.
I see it with every age of kid from like 14 on down.
I see the high schoolers in a different way were stunted.
Socially, there's a lot more anxiety, right?
We see these problems.
But for the young kids up to that, like, tweenage age, they were denied the ability to develop the type of imagination skills necessary to innovate.
And as a country, we will pay for that.
We will pay for that.
If space aliens had come to Earth and done this to us, we would consider it an act of war and eradicate them from the universe.
But we're supposed to pretend it's OK because our own government officials did it.
Well, Trump started it and I will give credit to the Republican states that started to back
away from it.
But the response from the left in terms of all the lockdowns is these liberals have been
posting, oh, wow, we better get to the bottom of who initiated the lockdowns and who was
in charge of the administration when these policies were being put in place that's why a lot of libertarians
didn't like trump because he was the boss and he let fauci and burks kind of just do their thing
but it was impossible there was like a giant train running away down the rails downhill there was no
way president trump would have been able to stop that and survive politically i don't give the
excuse i don't wave it so He also trusted institutions, right?
I mean, Trump's full hatred of institutions
didn't come until after they tried to destroy him fully.
So I think that's part of it as well.
I'll also say, like, I absolutely have a huge problem
with all of the things that Trump and then Biden did
during COVID that destroyed small businesses and children.
That was going to be my point.
If they want to go after Trump for what he did,
how could you not then go after Biden?
You have to go after both.
They both shut down.
We literally selectively shut down the world for 505 days.
And in that same timeframe of destroying millions
of small businesses that never came back,
the backbone of our economy,
we created 551 new billionaires.
And ask how much money Google made off of all
of the Chromebooks they sold that our government
subsidized. Ask how much they chose
the winners and losers of our economy.
Okay?
And these podcasters.
I'll tell you, you've got to watch out for those guys.
They made a lot of money.
Don't you think, Tiffany, that the government
really stepped up and
made sure to make millions of people reliant on government funds during that time?
It feels like they stepped up and made us reliant on everything.
Yeah, that was their whole point.
And it was both parties.
This was not a one party.
This was a power thing.
This was not a party thing.
This was a power thing.
And once that party got there, they kept it.
To rise up against law enforcement, the rule rule of law so then they could push back and
not have like any sort of deterrent when they overthrow the united states go on and then they
rioted and firebombed the white house grounds and saint john's church and they got away with it
another facet missions we didn't get any hearings another facet here of course is traditionally when
we had high rates of employment growth it came came from small business. It didn't come from big corporations. We obliterated the small business. We obliterated the source for
those job growth. When Biden wanted to increase job numbers, what did he do? Every job he created
was a government job. That's why there's tens of thousands of people available. They're still on
probationary employees to be fired by Trump. A lot of people don't know this, but I'm actually
the public policy liaison for the American Small Business League. And the statistics people find most shocking that we use all the time is that in the last 25 years, 99.9% of all jobs created in this country were created by small businesses because big corporations only develop efficiencies to increase productivity with less labor. They destroy jobs while small businesses
create them and cultivate them. And in the same token, same statistic, 99.9% of all businesses
in this country are small businesses. But they're the ones that we sacrificed. And we chose the
billionaires that were paying the big lobbying dollars, and they got to stay open. Let's clarify.
Nobody chose that. They stole it from us. They stole it. It was the largest transfer of wealth
from the poor to the rich
in the history of humanity.
Absolutely insane.
The amount of money that was given
in like pharmaceutical grants,
the amount of money that was given
to big box stores,
they would shut,
famously,
there was a photo
from a Walmart
that was open,
but they closed the gardening section.
Yeah.
You could go to the Walmart, buy whatever you want.
You couldn't buy gardening stuff.
It made no sense.
Small business couldn't be open at all.
They created special exemptions only for the big box stores.
Yep.
Here's what most people, I think most people understand, but for younger people.
If you own a restaurant and you, a famous burger joint, you got burgers and you got
wings, you're going to have $10,000 to $20,000 worth of food product at any given moment.
They say two weeks to slow the spread.
And Donald Trump did.
He's the one who started this.
Yep.
That two weeks, your food is spoiled.
Yep.
You just lost 20 grand.
You can't sell it.
Now, with the Biden administration coming in, they did two years to slow the spread.
And your insurance still doesn't cover it because it's active got.
So these guys couldn't make any insurance claims either on anything that happened.
Instantly.
They should get that back because it was actually active the NIH.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But overnight, there were tons of restaurants that lost 20 or $30,000 in product.
That money instantly evaporated.
So when they said, no, no, we're going to reopen.
Your business should be fine.
The owner said, I don't have 30 grand to buy the food to be able to serve anybody food. Tim, first of all, the federal government absolutely knows how
to run your business better than you do. So how dare you? You know, one of the things that happened
though, and this is a big boon for all of the big banks during this time, is that the SBA activated
EIDL loans. These are disaster relief loans for every state in America, as long as your governor
instituted a state of emergency. And then suddenly, like I was a debt free business.
I had worked so hard to stay debt free and build my business from the ground up.
And I was forced to take out a $250,000 loan to survive. And they gave those loans to everyone.
Okay, but they were they were given by banks that then repackaged
them and sold off that debt. And let me tell you that's sitting out there in a whole bunch of CLOs
right now. These are the only loans simultaneously that our SBA does not publish the metrics on for
how many of them have defaulted because they just handed them out like this. There was so much fraud
that happened during COVID and like go to franchises, which I was a franchise franchisors used the SBA during that time, like a money printing machine, including my
favorite, always private equity backed franchisors forced us to take out loans.
They were like, you will take out these loans and you will keep paying us.
Well, like landlords and stuff were giving us breaks, right?
And so the SBA turned into a money printing machine.
The banks were the ones that got to hand out all that cash, but it was guarantored by the
government.
They knew that most of us weren't going to survive. The government is now paying off all those loans because they guaranteed the loans. There's a lot of people
you'll see on the DOJ. The DOJ is prosecuting people for COVID PPE loans and all that kind of
stuff. Yeah, that was a trap the whole time. I was for sure. Nobody. There's such thing as free lunch.
And so when this was going on, I was being advised by my little team.
They were like, hey, you should you should apply for these loans. And I was like, why?
And they were like, well, the government's giving it to everybody to make sure they stay afloat.
And I was like, we don't need it. And they're like, you really should take us like we don't need it at all.
And they're like, I think it'd be smart. I was like, why are you telling me to take money I don't want and don't need?
No. And they're like, OK. I was creeped the F out.
Why were they telling you?
Did you ever figure that out?
Were they getting kickbacks or something?
No, I don't know.
The argument made was,
like, everybody's hurting right now.
The money is available and it can be forgiven.
Use it to pay your staff.
And I was like,
my company's actually making money right now.
I am not touching PPE loans.
Goodbye.
The lobbyists fought so hard.
There was so much advertising money poured into it, though, because this money was printed by the government and handed out by the banks.
And the banks just got the money passing through, and they got all of these transaction processing fees.
They made huge money.
And I am guilty.
I had to take the PPP loans.
We were shut down for 17 months.
We were not surviving.
And I didn't get my first grant for a year. I did get a grant, not nearly the like level of grants that other people got,
but I got a small grant. And then I ultimately had to, after a year passed, I had to take a loan. My,
my franchisor made me, um, so I had to take out a loan, but we were debt-free businesses. So many
businesses were debt-free, uh, but you have a personal guarantee on your lease. So you got to
pay it. You've got a personal guarantee on your lease. So you got to pay it.
You've got a personal guarantee because small businesses don't get the benefit of LLC protection like big businesses do.
Let's jump to this next story from the Post Millennial.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Kilmar Obrego Garcia's wife covers up his MS-13 gang member.
Well, I'm going to say this.
Covers the MS-13 gang tattoos on his hands.
Now, the title says covers his hand tattoos with hearts in social media posts.
However, Libby also recently just shared this.
Trump, he's posted it.
This is MS-13.
Take a look.
This is where it gets really interesting.
First, here you can see in his hand,
it looks like a marijuana leaf,
a smiley face, a cross, and a skull.
When his wife shared this photo,
she covered his hand up with
hearts because those tattoos are MS-13 gang tattoos. Donald Trump has the image. He says
this is the hand of the man the Democrats feel should be brought back to the U.S.
because he's such a fine and innocent person. They said he is not a member of MS-13, even though he's
got MS-13 tattooed on his knuckles. And two highly respected courts found he was a member of MS-13,
beat up his wife, etc. I was elected to take bad people out of the u.s among other things i must be allowed to do my job make america great again in this image you can see that the marijuana is m
the smile is s the cross is one and the skull is three now the only question i have is i understand
ms1 but what about the three how is the skull skull a 3? Do we understand that? Just the curve on the side of the skull would
be like... Makes a 3? Yeah.
Three holes, eyes and nose. I think it's that
if you just take off the left side that it
creates... A 3? I don't know. I think that's what they're...
So, I mean, Marijuana Smiley is MS and the cross
is a 1. And they all did
have tattoos like this on their hands.
Now, the reporting from
gang unit, like gang
officers and a DA who appeared on Fox is that they've moved away from tattoos and are because it makes you easily identifiable and prosecutable.
But, ladies and gentlemen, I can't believe we even have to have this conversation.
I know that every single person listening right now knows this already.
The guy was MSs-13 well the uh the the sting where he was arrested in 2019 outside of a home depot that
was part of an investigation into gang activity in the area he wasn't just picked up for loitering
a hispanic person was arrested outside of a home depot three of them i don't believe you and didn't
they say it was because uh they were looking for work uh yeah people have said that it was because
they were looking for work but it was i, the police arrested him because they were investigating gang activity in the area.
They were already under surveillance.
I mean, come on.
Like, the marijuana smiley face is clearly MS.
Is there an argument they're going to have to why he has comparable gang tattoos to MS-13, which spells out at least MS-1?
He's got multiple sclerosis.
He loves Jesus, and he'll go to the grave believing that.
I don't see why any of you would say this young man who's obviously having trouble going to school and needs a job hanging outside of Home Depot would be anything other than a fantastic addition to the United States population.
Racism. Have you have you encountered any any stuff like this in your line of work?
No. City of Buffalo hasn't has a majority of local
gangs so like block gangs you know like we've got bailey avenue so you get the bailey boys and stuff
like that bang them uh fuck them leave them uh but we do have old heads in the gang that's one
of the gangs old heads an old head is uh an older individual that's been in the gang life for a while. So like 25 and older.
And we'll have...
That sounds like young.
That's a young person.
Gang life's hard life.
Yeah, it seems tough.
If you make it to 25.
Yeah, for sure.
You've been in the game for a minute.
Because they'll start at like 15, 16.
So by the time you get to 25, you've got half of your retirement in.
That's 10 years.
Yeah, wow.
So we'll have old heads that like i said are older
people that have been in the the streets for a while and they'll they'll rep they'll be like
they'll be the og for like a block gang but they'll be bloods so a specific example that i can think
of is there was an old head he was a blood is a blood and he takes these two or three smaller
block gangs under his wing they don't battle with one another.
They're friendly with one another.
And they don't work for him, but he guides them.
And he also has connections to other blood groups.
You know, like the Godfather and like a smaller aspect for like just that portion of town.
The five boxes, the five families.
In Chicago, all the gangs are Catholic.
What's that?
In Chicago, not all, but like most of the gangs are Catholic.
Is that like the old Irish-y type thing?
There's the popes, the bishops, the disciples.
I'm not kidding.
Seriously?
Yes.
And I don't know if they're actually Catholic,
but my friends were always making that joke,
like, what's next, the choir boys?
Why are they all Catholic?
The church loves violence.
It does.
And then there's different sects of each.
So there are different popes.
The popes are a gang, and there's a bunch of
different ones, and the bishops, and the Latin kings are obvious. They're more national, and
that's not so religious, but they are all largely Christian. I do find that really interesting about
the MS-13 with the cross. These guys largely purport to be Christian, don't they?
They follow, or they pray to the weird saint, like the Saint de la Muerte or something like that. It's like the saint of death.
And it's this overseeing saint that understands criminals and works with criminals.
It's a load of horseshit.
It's like voodoo, funky bullshit.
Someone says the skull in Spanish is craneo, which starts with C, the third letter in the alphabet.
Is that it?
Maybe.
Personally, I'd like to see Trump get F-A-F-O tattoos on each of his hands.
That would be pretty cool if he showed up with that.
Scott G.B.D. can do that for you.
AI for that right now.
And by the way, a couple of issues here.
One is the question of whether he's MS-13 has been answered.
So they talk all about the due process this guy was supposed to get.
He got every drop of due process he was entitled to.
And part of due process is also too much.
So many processes. Part of due process is also... Too much. So many processes.
Part of due process is also finality of law.
A decision has been made.
It's over.
And this decision was made by two different courts in 2019.
An immigration judge, before which this guy appeared with a lawyer, had the opportunity
to rebut this evidence that he was MS-13.
He failed to do that.
Then he appealed to an appellate board for the immigration,
and that judge also adjudicated him MS-13.
It's over.
We're not going back and asking the same question
over and over again endlessly.
What would...
I mean, what do Democrats expect to have happened?
Someone to like...
They want it to go away.
A jury trial.
It's like a dead unicorn in the road,
and they just want it to be alive again.
They just don't like the situation.
It's not to their satisfaction.
They want it changed. I think what they really wanted was they wanted to
bring 10 million people into the United States
and keep them here forever. That's why
they had varying legal
statuses for all of these people.
Refugees, asylum seekers, all this.
You're an attorney.
I have this question. So I was doing a little digging into what could cause a person to get,
how a person could be deported without like a whole court thing, right? And so it's-
Which is not what happened here, by the way.
No, that's not what happened here. But it said that asylum seekers, if your case is dismissed or denied, then you are eligible for deportation.
Joe Biden in last June quietly dismissed 350,000 asylum seekers cases. There's a backlog of about
2 million cases. Could the Trump administration just dismiss all of these asylum cases and then
deport everybody who's on that backlog?
Well, what they could do is they, everybody's entitled to due process. Even these guys,
even the TDA guys under the Alien Enemies Act are entitled to due process. But what due process means is not the same for everybody. The due process I'm entitled to as an American citizen
before I can be deported from the country is very, very high. The amount of due process someone who's here on an asylum basis or a temporary basis or a parole basis
or a completely unlawful basis is very, very, very low.
That's why we have immigration courts.
Congress said we don't want these immigration cases going through our federal district trial courts.
We don't want that. It just blocks up the whole system.
We're going to take that jurisdiction away from the federal district trial courts and assign it to specialized immigration courts. We don't want that. It just blocks up the whole system. We're going to take that jurisdiction away from the federal district trial courts and assign it to specialized immigration
courts. So first of all, all these immigration cases, the district courts have no jurisdiction
over them. They're in the wrong place. And when they're in... Like Boasburg and what's her name
in Boston? Yes. That's the wrong place. Yes. And the immigration courts are allowed to do things
in a much more accelerated way.
For example, these don't have to be individualized hearings.
You could bring in 100 MS-13 guys, and the government could hold up a piece of paper and say,
yes, we've determined that each of these is an MS-13 people subject to deportation.
Bam, they're all gone.
It doesn't have to be an individualized hearing.
So you can do it in an accelerated way. In this particular case, one really outrageous part of this is this guy was deported on March 15th. His family didn't even
file anything in court, in federal district court, until March 24th, nine days later. By then, he had
been in El Salvador for nine days. The United States has zero jurisdiction over that guy the moment he's
been returned to El Salvador. So everything that's happening in federal district court with respect
to this guy is completely lawless. Courts do not have infinite and unlimited authority and
jurisdiction. Wouldn't this be a lack of standing or something? It's a lack of jurisdiction. So the
first thing a court is supposed to ask itself when a dispute is presented to it is, do I as the court even have the jurisdictional authority to hear this case?
This is an El Salvadoran citizen who's in El Salvador.
But if he was an American, they'd have jurisdiction over the American citizen, right?
But he's not an American citizen.
No, no.
My argument is if an American citizen got deported to El Salvador like Democrats are whinging about, courtsts would have jurisdiction because the U.S. government has jurisdiction over American citizens.
You can look at the types of things that we're doing with prisoner exchanges with Russia when we're trying to get out what we believe are politically held prisoners over there.
We can't make Russia through a court order or any other means release them to us.
That's that's a fact. We have to go through other negotiation means to get somebody back, whether it's a journalist or a basketball player or, you know, I suppose it's by whatever they say.
Right. But we can't force them to.
I want to jump to this next story.
So we have this clip from ABC of Abrego Garcia's wife.
And I'm going to I'm not going to barely I'm going to say it right off the bat.
I believe this woman is under duress
in everything she's doing.
I believe my views on this is completely reasonable.
Let me play this clip for you,
and then I will lay out my argument.
I have to ask it.
You did take out a temporary order of protection
against your husband in 2021.
Were you in fear of your husband?
My husband is alive.
That's all I can say.
What?
Okay.
You know, I'm not going to push on that, apparently.
But how much hope?
That was a ridiculous non-answer.
I believe that his wife's under duress.
Let me lay this out.
In 2021, she files a petition
for protection on domestic violence accusations. She says that he's punched her, mercilessly
beaten her, given her a black eye. All of a sudden, she stops following through with it.
What could possibly be the reason for a woman to claim that this guy, who has been accused of
human trafficking, who has MS-13 gang tattoos, who is believed by two courts to be an MS-13 gang member,
why would she abruptly just decide, you know what, these multiple beatings he's given me,
I've worked it out.
Well, you're a cop.
Yeah.
Let me ask you a question.
This is my expertise.
If you went to, if you got a report from someone saying, I just watched a guy beating his wife,
and you went to the house, knocked on the door, and the door and the woman said no no everything's fine what would
you do that that's a good what if does she have like physical yes bruising she got a black guy
arrest the dude i gotta get a statement from the guy that saw it happen but she said it's fine
doesn't matter she said nothing happened new york state domestic violence laws say that i have to
separate the two parties that i make't want to get the witness.
I got to take them apart.
Now, there's a reason why that law exists.
In your experience, was she fine?
No.
This is the point I'm bringing up about Abrego Garcia's wife.
So she files for Northern Protection saying he's punched her.
He's beat her with a work boot, gave her a black eye.
The most reasonable conclusion as to why she withdrew is because an MS-13 gang member and his gang member buddies are saying, don't mess with us.
You know what MS-13 can do.
No.
You don't think so?
No.
The amount of times that I've had domestics where partners, kids, we'll just stick with partners, right?
Husband and wife that get into domestics with active orders of protection that I'll go in and I'll investigate.
And they say, hey, he assaulted me.
I'm like, okay, cool.
I need you to come in for a statement.
Well, a week later, she keeps ignoring my phone calls.
I got to close the case because all she wanted was to have the guy removed for the day.
She's going to bring him right back into the house the next day and violate the order of protection that's in between them because they've got a longstanding relationship.
And that's par for the course for a lot, a lot of domestic violence issues.
And the court filing here said they dismissed it
because she did not appear in court to follow up.
And so she said that we worked it out.
And I agree with you in a normal case,
but not when MS-13 is involved.
She's right now doing all of these things
which are in contradiction to what she had claimed before,
and she's raising lots of money.
So one could argue she either lied then or she's lying now saying everything was fine because she's getting hundreds
of hundreds of thousands of dollars from what we've seen in the media of what ms-13 does to
people who go against it notably some uh 15 years ago some hackers in mexico not really hackers but
internet activists threatened to leak information that would compromise MS-13. They were both found strung up and hung from a highway sign.
People were driving past their corpses.
I would actually argue it is much simpler to assume an MS-13 gang member who's about to get an order of protection
that's going to bring unwanted attention to what they're doing likely just told her, stop or else.
Maybe that's why she didn't file until nine days later.
It could be.
And listen, it's hard for me to imagine any interaction with MS-13
that wouldn't be inherently coercive, right?
They're a hyper-violent gang.
If they lived in your neighborhood, it would be coercive.
Indeed.
So we could ask ourselves,
is this a normal circumstance in which I would argue,
right, exactly as you see it.
I mean, more than enough YouTubers have covered stories of women making false accusations for us to be like, there are instances where women claim they were abused.
Who is that woman who hit herself?
She got in trouble for this.
She didn't get to want to brawley.
Was that who?
I don't know.
Someone Sharpton, the whole Al Sharpton.
She punched herself in the face and then claimed he did it? No, she faked an assault.
Yeah.
But there's plenty of cases of women
who will injure themselves
and then report it as a spousal abuse.
There was a super viral video this week
of the landlord that went into a woman's home,
called 911,
and then said she was being beaten,
started throwing herself on the floor
and into a wall.
Wow.
And the woman had a camera in the house
and she got hit on she wow so i would just
say this she's beating me she's punching me with m with ms-13 involved i and and look i i know that
ms-13 has got a reputation for being super brutal yeah i can tell you from the gangs in chicago
uh we had a dude who was who was the dude who came on the show uh surge who got shot at and
his camera guy got shot brandon buckingham sorry for getting your name brother uh when you give
media coverage to a chicago gang the other gangs are like you're you're dead because you're you're
giving them cred you're giving them respect like you are you are propping them up you become a
target yeah i'd be willing to bet ms13 was like, don't mess with us.
I disagree because the gang is so violent.
An order of protection or a domestic violence issue
where maybe he gets locked up or where she decides,
well, hey, I'm part of the lifestyle anyway and this happens.
Whatever acceptance that she wants to say.
An order of protection and an assault or harassment charge
is nothing compared to these guys. What if it puts the
guy on the radar of the police? They're already on
the radar for the police. They're an MS-13 guy.
This is before, well actually this was after he got arrested
actually, so yeah, I agree with you. You're saying
this now though, right? You're saying that she's
acting this way because they're threatening her now.
You're not saying it was then?
I could see it. Here's a guy
who already almost got deported. They're saying he was a chicao which means according to the da this guy appeared
on fox news um obrega garcia would have had to have murdered somebody that was the next step for
full initiation he was basically like they call him a chicao means he's he works with the gang
he'll do what they want but he doesn't get full benefits he's not a full member until he until he
kills somebody and so he gets arrested in 2019 and
he's nearly deported. But he argues, if I go back, I'll die. So we get to temporary stay.
So I looked up the law. It says a USCIS interview that finds the circumstances of his home country
have changed, voids his withholding of deportation, and then he can be removed. I'd imagine any police
scrutiny, especially beating your wife, is going to put his standing in this country at risk and negatively impact again.
His deportation was not paused.
He had a final order of deportation.
The order of withholding just says you have to go.
You can't stay in the U.S. anymore.
You're not lawfully present, but we will not order you deported to El Salvador.
That's all it meant.
Unless the law states that unless the circumstances of your home country have changed, thus that there is no longer a threat. That's all it meant. Unless the law states that unless the circumstances of your home
country have changed, thus that there's
no longer a threat. That's true. That takes a
hearing. Exactly. Right. But he
lost his withholding on a different basis
entirely. In February this
year, when MS-13 was designated
a terrorist organization, he became
a terrorist, and they're ineligible
by function of law.
I agree. Now let's,
now let's go back to 2021 when she claims he was beating her and then
stopped abruptly.
Perhaps you're right.
And I'm crazy,
right?
Or I'm,
I'm,
I'm exaggerating or I'm using it wrongly.
She just was falsely accusing the guy because there was something she was
trying to get out of it.
Or then this is what I'm trying to say.
She's not faking it.
She was beat,
but this is just a part of the domestic violence circle that happens in relationships.
She gets beat.
She gets over it.
They stay together.
He brings in food.
She loves him.
They love each other.
She gets beat.
He brings in food.
She gets fatter.
Battered wife syndrome.
Battered wife syndrome.
Yeah.
So where else is she going to go?
And what I'm trying to understand is your point of the money coming in.
That's now. That's's now $200,000.
Yeah.
I mean,
come on.
First of all,
she's got an incentive to say whatever she's got to say about a guy she
claimed was beating her.
But the gang is also going to be like,
we want that money.
You think the gang is taking the money that she's bringing in?
Hey,
look,
man,
I don't know if I have a,
I have,
I have a more serious view of gangs than you or the people who watch. But I guess from the gangs that I know and how they operate,
a regular street gang in Chicago would be doing exactly as I'm describing it right now.
I'm with him on this. Let me let me let me she had found two hundred thousand dollars in a grocery
bag on the street and brought it home and the gang found out about it. They would take the money
and keep that money. The reason I think this is the gangs that i knew
in chicago if a woman was panicking over her boyfriend who was in the gang was beating her
the gang would walk up to her with a gun and say you say one word of this and you're dead
yeah why would ms-13 not do that to her when she filed for a domestic
i'm not saying i'm not saying like they have to i i feel like you're coming from the point of view
where because she dropped these charges because she's's gang affiliated, that it has to be a sort of gang.
The view I have is what is the simpler solution?
What makes the least amount of assumptions?
In a normal circumstance, I completely agree.
The cycle of domestic violence.
But why wouldn't something that's a lot simpler, though, and just say that they're asking her about things that like might make it so there's less sympathy and the money is coming like we could just say the
money's coming in like all right i agree negative connotation but 2021 is is before money before
this case before the terrorism designation why did she drop the domestic oh that's so normal
though it's so many women just drop it either because they can't provide for their kids and
they know they need
that like the man back whether it's miserable or not so like as somebody who grew up in a foster
household domestic violence is something that that is common in okay so then we'll argue this
thing so my my view and what i'm describing is i think it's slightly more probable that the gang
did what gangs do and says shut your mouth or else you got do you
think that's a possibility just not less light is just substantially less likely i'm going to say
that i think it's even more likely that the handlers that are arguing for a specific culture
point right now would be saying shut your mouth yes i'm just gonna say it like if i'm gonna say
i think the political handlers would be more likely i think she's extremely safe because
the people that want to push her political agenda
are using her as a puppet,
as a mouthpiece. Not so much
MS-13. I think she's the
safest she could possibly be because she's
surrounded by people that want to see her
and her family succeed.
For me, I think it's political operatives that are
dying. The lawyers on record
for Herbergo Garcia are like from a top
ten law firm.
These guys make a million dollars a year.
That was true with Mahmoud Khalil in Columbia as well.
He has like 20.
MS-13 sitting back.
All these top 20 law firms, they're billion dollar operations.
They all have huge pro bono units just to do progressive legal work.
Do you guys think that MS-13 is backing away from her?
Yes.
Yeah.
They don't want to be close to this,
and I don't think they want more attention like this.
She's on the news getting sympathy from half the country right now.
Why would they go mess with her?
That's going to put a spotlight on them.
Yeah, I don't think.
For me, I think the political manipulation is more likely.
How much is $200,000 worth from a gang that's doing human trafficking?
Perhaps, but we've seen people kill for less.
Sure.
Yeah.
But the government is gangsters, too.
Yeah.
I mean, the progressives are gangsters, too.
Right?
We just saw a video of a guy threatening to kill everybody.
Right?
Did we play a show?
Oh, yeah.
So some Carmelo Anthony fan.
Is that what it was?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, I feel bad for the nba uh star carmelo anthony
oh gosh yeah it's like yeah that's what i could think this guy's a legend decision report for him
this week the other guys with a k it is and i remember when i first someone said like hey did
you hear about a story about that that dude carmelo anthony who killed that kid and i was like what
nba superstar carmelo anthony did what and then i looked it up and I was like, that's weird. I was like, well, it does kind of suck because I wonder when you say the name,
who first comes to mind?
It's like taking his legacy from him.
But yeah, I don't know.
I think you guys make good points.
I just think when I see this, you know, the experiences that I've had in Chicago
with women who are dating gang members is that if a woman ever got beat by her boyfriend in a gang,
she'd never even get to the filing process.
The gang would be there knocking on her door, and they'd have guns,
and they'd be like, look, just don't say anything,
otherwise it's going to get bad for everybody.
I'm sure that's true, but that lacks the political dynamic that we have going on here.
I'm saying in 2021 before the spotlight.
Not now.
I agree with what you're saying now.
So what is your issue with 2021? Because I still think I'm not grasping what you're saying. So in. Oh, I see. I agree with what you're saying now. Right, right, right. So what is your issue with 2021?
Because I still think
I'm not grasping what you're saying.
So in 2019, he's arrested.
Yeah.
He is found by a court
to be deportable,
to be deported,
and a member of MS-13.
Yeah.
The gang's probably
not happy about that.
However, they give him
withholding of deportation
because he claims he will die
if he goes home.
So he gets a temporary holding
on the deportation.
In 2021, she says to
the government, he's beating me. Yes, this is going to get him deported. It's going to take
it's going to get him it's going to get him in trouble. And potentially the other guys who are
with him, who knows it's going to put a negative light on him. Yeah. The gangs that the gang
experience that I have is any scrutiny from law enforcement on what they do could blow the whole
thing open. And the last thing they want when they're dealing drugs is a woman claiming she's being beaten, which generates
substantially more sympathy than someone slinging pot to another drug dealer or to some scummy kid.
OK, so what I'm saying is she drops this in 2021 because MS-13 says we've already got these people
breathing down our neck trying to deport Abrego. He works for us and you're going to screw us over let's say abrigo was he was accused of human trafficking he was in a car
loaded with people in 2022 this means he if that accusation is true he was still working and doing
trafficking work for ms-13 a year later if she goes to the police that he's beating me they lose
their human trafficker so i think it stands to reason they went to her and said, shut the up. And she said, okay.
It's plausible.
Because then he continued to work for them.
But again, keep in mind, I just want to
clarify, because we keep saying that this guy's
deportation was paused. It was not
paused. No, the order is called the withholding
of deportation. All the withholding means is
that we will not deport him to
El Salvador. He was still
required to leave the United States.
So the order saying you cannot stay here,
that was not paused.
He was not legally present.
Exactly.
And I suppose the issue is
we can't deport someone to a different country
without treaties and foreign policy arrangements
like we have with El Salvador now.
Normally, we let people self-deport.
So normally, we don't just lock them in handcuffs
and throw them out of the country.
We let them gather their affairs.
You know, they have homes, they have furniture,
they have kids,
and we let them get their affairs together.
They know they're legally required to leave
and they know it's going to go much harder for them
if they get caught again.
But this guy did it for six years
after his final order of deportation.
He was still here.
Yeah.
The point I was making the other day,
which the left is lying about, is judges cannot create de facto permanent residency
through a technicality. That means there is a this is a temporary status which is subject to
being revoked at any time. And the only mistake Trump made, if there was an error, was that he
needed to have a USCIS interview with Obrego Garcia before
deportation, which literally could have been. So your fear, as stated in court, was MS-13 will
kill you in El Salvador? Yes. Good news. Nayib Bukele has jailed all MS-13 and they're no longer
a strong presence. The crime rate has dropped substantially. Withholding of deportation void
on the plane. So there's a concept in law called harmless error.
So it's very common for someone to get convicted in a criminal trial.
They appeal their conviction.
They say, the judge in my trial did something wrong.
And the appellate court looks at it and says, you know what?
You're right.
That was a mistake.
The trial judge made a mistake.
But you would have been convicted anyway.
The error is harmless.
Nothing changes.
You don't get a new trial.
You get no benefit from the appeal. This is harmless nothing changes you don't get a new trial you get no benefit from the appeal
this is harmless error if we brought back abrigo garcia today to the u.s what would immediately
happen to him he'd be deported to el salvador so even if there was an error even if we denied
him a hearing we were supposed to give him it's harmless error because the outcome is exactly the
same i i do absolutely love that that like they like they're demanding he be returned and he would literally walk in, go before a judge, have his withholding removed and sent right back.
Exactly.
It makes no sense.
It's the stupidest thing in the world.
Look.
Can we just have that happen so they shut up?
Seems like a lot of facilitation.
Yeah.
Trump doesn't want to do that because then trump's bending the knee to these
federal courts that do not have in fact the authority to make them in addition they could
then say he could do it for like more down the road you guys a precedent i assume that that's
part of the reason because you're right bringing him back and dealing with it that way would
you want to bring him back as a guest of the president the united states
so if you want to be machiavellian my advice to the trump administration if you want to come back as a guest to the president of the United States. So if you want to be Machiavellian, my advice to the Trump administration, if you want to be evil, right?
There's always a couple.
I always, you know, whenever I tell people when they say something like, what should we do about this circumstance?
I always ask them, how evil do you want to be?
Because if you want to be evil, there's really easy solutions to a lot of things.
But being evil sucks.
So don't do it.
All that needs to happen is Naibu Kelly tell Abrego Garcia, we're going to take care of your family.
We're going to pay you cash, and you are going to admit to being a member of MS-13, apologize, and refuse to return
to the United States. Imagine what would happen if he did that. And that would be fine with me,
because it's not something Trump is doing. I can explain. But just imagine, like, if the Democrats
came out, and right now Abrago Garcia is on TV saying, I am an MS-13 gay man. He would do what
they're already transitioning to now, which is saying, well, it's not really about him.
He's the wife beater is not important anymore.
It's about the principle.
It's right over and say that he gave a gang member money.
But the reason Trump must not say if you're evil, you don't admit to doing that.
It does.
All you have to say is, well, where did that fifty thousand dollars in your bank account come from, Pedro?
No, but like the government of if the government of Salvador wanted to be evil there's not going to be a trace that can be detected oh that's true
meaningful way yeah and the guy I mean okay they can be really evil they can they can push a gun
into his back and say say you're sorry you're not you're a gang member you know what I mean
and then he does and then what do you do what do Democrats say if let's just say this if a
went on tv when I saw that picture of him meeting with Van Hollen, I was like, what if he just
tells the guy right now, no, I actually am in the gang.
I don't want to come, I don't want to go back to the States.
What does Van Hollen do? I thought they didn't let him talk to Van Hollen.
What was it? I thought they didn't let him talk to Van Hollen.
Oh yeah, they did. There's photos. They had margaritas
together.
They're chilling. Yeah, there's
photos of them enjoying a margarita together.
And now the Democrats are
arguing that they gave the margaritas as a prop. Like, Democrats are arguing that they, they gave the margaritas as a prop.
Like they're arguing that they didn't want the margaritas,
but El Salvador put it there intentionally to make it look more friendly.
It was like a New York times reporter said,
I saw them bring the margaritas and they didn't even want them.
I should have put a box of condoms on the table.
Whatever it is.
My comment section is saying they didn't have real margaritas.
I do love the meme that's find someone who looks at you the way a Democrat looks at an MS-13 gang member.
Oh my gosh.
Man.
I have like a really like a very unique perspective.
Everybody has unique perspectives on everything.
And like I'm deeply purple.
Everybody pretty much knows that at this point. When it comes to legal versus illegal immigration, my first husband, his family, they live near Fort Huachuca in Benson, Arizona.
And every one of them served in the military to earn their citizenship.
All of the males in the family line going back four generations have served in the military, different branches, mostly the Navy. And almost all of the men and several of the women in the family
now choose to work for Border Patrol.
And I was kind of surprised by that when I had my daughter
and I was spending time with them down near Fort Huachuca.
I'm like, why? Why do you do this?
And they basically said, you know, come up.
Because they need somebody on the inside.
No, they said you don't understand the children that the coyotes do to the children.
They're smuggling in what find your first pregnant woman's body in the desert with with something literally eating her insides.
And you'll understand that the legal you need to come in this way.
They really deeply like like taught me their perspectives. And I realized it
wasn't my, like, that's where a huge amount of my influence on legal versus illegal immigration,
especially across our Southern border has come from because I was, I was very liberal back then.
And they were like, you don't understand what they're doing to these children. And me having
grown up in a foster household, I was surrounded by children that were mercilessly abused by people.
And to hear that that was happening through trafficking and through the coyotes and what was happening to these kids along the way really kind of traumatized me.
And that's why Tom Homan is so energized about this.
He's energized about this, not out of hate for immigrants, but out of love for the children and the women who are being just horrifically destroyed in this process.
Let's jump to the story from the Dallas Morning News.
This is not a good one, man.
The Austin Metcalfe's family was swatted today, according to Frisco Police.
Officers responded to a false gunshot call to an address tied to the family.
This is horrific.
Say Frisco Police said officers responded in the evening to a gunshot call to an address tied to Austin Metcalfe's family.
Grant Cottingham, a police spokesperson, said the call turned out to be false.
DHS defined swatting as an act of making malicious hoax calls.
Everybody knows what that is.
Earlier Thursday, the parents of Carmelo Anthony,
a 17-year-old teenager who was facing a murder charge
in connection with the stabbing, had spoken publicly
about the case for the first time.
Jeff Metcalf, Austin's father, was barred from attending the news conference.
Y'all, this is getting absolutely insane.
We did talk about this to a great degree earlier today on the Culture War podcast, but I don't
know.
What do you guys think?
Well, swatting is attempted murder.
Swatting is so dangerous, and it's happening politically more and more and more, and we
really need to more strenuously criminalize it, in my opinion.
It is so dangerous.
If somebody came into my house, we would use weapons. If came into my house we would use weapons if i
didn't we would use weapons and that would put my children at risk my life at risk i know a bunch of
content creators that are left or right and are political content creators that have been swatted
recently but but this family like that's horrific in my opinion that's just that that's beyond
horrific things are getting absolutely crazy in this country um you know we were talking we've
been talking a bit about like the mangione effect and the escalation of political violence while largely liberals cheer it on. But this is this is crazy. Clearly, whoever did this is I would imagine the middle left in alignment with all the other swattings we've seen of conservative personalities, the challenging thing with all of the political violence we're seeing is it's hard to know
whether or not you can discern between politically motivated,
motivated violence anymore and random acts because of the celebration of Luigi Mangione.
Wait, are you trying to say that because of like Luigi Mangione, this swatting event like took place because it's been like normalized?
So you've got simply put, yes, but with caveats.
Okay.
When they go on TV on Colbert and Kimmel and cheer for the Tesla tax and the audience claps and cheers.
Yeah.
When they go on The Daily Show and he says they're firebombing these things and people clap and cheer. And then Jordan Klepper's like, wow.
When entire online forums are dedicated to Luigi Mangione because they view him as, as Taylor Lorenz said, a morally good man who's handsome.
We saw a copycat of Luigi Mangione showed up at UnitedHealthcare HQ in Minnetonka and threatened to start shooting people, even though he had no
grievance whatsoever with UnitedHealth. They just said, I guess he was crazy. That is clearly
Mangione effect. The left widespread on the Internet is celebrating the violence and you
will get crazy people doing crazy things. What you are seeding in people's minds is attempted
murder and violence is justifiable if I feel it so.
So what my point is, swattings happen.
But we've had 20 swattings targeting conservative individuals in the past month and a half.
Yeah, I was going to say there's a massive uptick.
Yeah.
And this is related to, I would argue, the Maginot effect, Tesla's and things like this.
So when I see this, my point is there's no discernible way to know if this would have been a
one-off swatting incident because of the hotness of issue or if the increase in support for
political violence is leading to calls like this. I'm just going to step way back and I'm going to
go way high up. Historically, every civilization in human history, when they reach a certain point
of income and wealth inequality, begins
to have a populace that will resort to levels of violence when they feel unheard by their
legislatures, their Congress, their elected officials.
That has historically happened in every single civilization in history.
When you reach a point where there is a lack of hope among the population and a belief
that they have no way to actually
make a difference and actually restore hope for their next generations.
I am not agreeing with it,
but that is the,
the Luigi Mangione effect is not because he was handsome and it's not because
it was just United healthcare.
It is because people don't,
they,
they think there's different systems of justice for the rich and the not rich
at, they think there's different systems of, for the rich and the not rich.
They think there's different systems of capability.
We talked about last time I was on here, the stock market.
88% of equities in this country in our stock market are held by the top 10% of owners. 93.
Okay, 93.
It's worse.
Worse.
93% of all the equities in the stock market are held by the top 10% of earners.
Okay?
That means the remaining 7% are held by the top 10% of earners. Okay. That means the remaining 7% are held by the next 40% of earners.
Okay.
And what's happening is because all of that is now compounding,
it is creating bigger and bigger black holes of wealth extraction.
And so the Mangione effect,
I don't think is related to this.
I think political violence in general is a,
is a,
an inevitability because we have a deeply corrupted political
system but the manjani effect is a subset in this criteria you're describing i think they're very
very scared i think that the reason they're pushing on it so hard is because they're scared
he's going to be the new columbine and that will become the thing they do instead and that's what
we're seeing and that's the manjani effect and that's the concern that a swatting call like this would not have happened had the left not over
the past two months, past five months been publicly and on social media advocating for
murder, death and violence. I don't see I don't see the connection with swatting and that we had
we had 20 swattings of conservatives already completely related to Elon Musk and Tesla.
Again, we had we had 20 swattings directly
targeting conservatives and now the cause celebrate of conservatives just got the family
just got swatted those are politically motivated this i don't see any political motivation other
than i know that there's like left and right that are saying you know black kid bad white kid bad
they deserve to die i'm saying theishing between racial motivation? Racial motivation.
I think it's more racial motivation.
That is the politics of what's going on.
The only reason this story – look, stories like this happen all day, every day.
We were on the show and I pulled up like seven stories of other crazy violent incidents that happened in various places.
The right has chosen this to target and demand justice for. I'm not saying they're wrong and I'm not saying they should or should not be doing anything else. This is the
story. This is how it goes. The left has responded by donating half a million dollars to Carmelo
Anthony. In the past month and a half, we've had 20 swattings of conservatives. This family has
been tweeted out support from every single one of those people of course there's a political angle if you how so let's let me put
it this way i think right there is i'll take it back there's probably there is a sort of political
attention that this is getting nobody would swat this family if it wasn't in the news yes but that
doesn't mean that it's that it's the only reason luigi effect it's only in the news. Yes, but that doesn't mean that it's the Mangione effect or Luigi effect. It's only in the news
for political reasons.
Correct.
Right, so if you swat
20 conservatives
and you know
who those conservatives are
and that's why you swatted them
and they all tweet out
in support of this family
and then the family
gets swatted too,
I think there is a possibility,
a strong one,
that this is a component
of the left
being emboldened
in calls for violence
and trying to escalate violence
against their political enemies. The point I was making, making it's not that is a guarantee that's the
case i understand it's how can we discern between what would normally be a a random act of violence
or something that is more entrenched in a faction of people in this country feel emboldened to
commit acts of violence i'll agree with that i i can't i i feel like it's it's it's easier to
separate this from mangione and say that it's racially motivated because they don't like the
what's going on i will say that there's probably a political side to it where the conservatives
are supporting the white kid yes liberals are supporting but we're not we're not disagreeing
with each other okay what i'm saying is there are people whose political worldview is largely racial.
The Mangione effect does not mean that you want to kill CEOs.
It means that the left has celebrated violence and murder.
And that means all subsets of that political class now feel violence and death are acceptable. The swatting is because they are racially motivated politically,
but it's emboldened and only happened because of the Mangione effect.
That is, the left has told people,
you will be a hero and you'll be celebrated for doing this.
I'm going to say in this instance, though,
we're seeing a very deep left-right divide on this,
and that's very clear.
The Mangione effect has united people on both sides
like nothing since the titan submersible and our recent trip to space let me tell you people
the manjone effect on online is not left right it is pretty even it is young versus old is what it
is it is people that have hope versus people that have none but but there is a very clear distinction between the right maybe saying,
well, we all know health care systems are messed up. But overwhelmingly, the right's view on this
is randomly killing a guy, fixed nothing, made everything worse and is wrong. And the left is
doing shows where they cheer for him and they've donated a million dollars to him. It is clearly
distinct. I'm going to say that I'm seeing I am seeing generational differences far more than I am
seeing left right differences on the Mangione effect.
Go to every single go to every single conservative podcaster and they've condemned Mangione and
go to every single liberal.
And they have to.
But like, I mean, we all have to condemn.
What's your what's your breakdown?
The young people are in favor of him.
My point is that I'm not even going to say they're in favor of it they're literally you're saying like the equivalent of saying like oh you know thoughts
and prayers that's what i'm saying and i'm not seeing it left right online which i'm on there
and i'm saying that the young people are you know for lack of a better word pro luigi the the young
people young i'm going to say young i'm going to say i'm going to go all the way up to like 40 and
under i'm going to say our pro not necessarily going to say I'm going to go all the way up to like 40 and under. I'm going to say our pro, not necessarily what he did.
Oh, sure.
I understand.
But like our pro, the fact that like nothing else is making a difference in their future.
And all the wealth is with this small group of people.
And they are getting that wealth through the exploitation of other people.
Somebody is supporting Luigi because Jacob from Give, Send, Go was here today.
And he's raised a million dollars.
Absolutely.
Well, so we got a poll in the chat.
And right now, with 335 votes, 90% say no, I do not support Luigi Mangione.
You have to say it.
Yeah, but you're a right-wing podcaster.
You have to say it.
Which is my point.
No, if the right was evenly split, the right would be saying what their audience wanted them to say.
I'm not saying they're evenly split.
And their audience would be giving them thumbs down.
Well, you just did.
I'm saying that we are generationally split,
and I am seeing pretty healthy from both sides of the aisle
that are not in favor of what he did,
but they are in favor of someone doing anything that makes a difference
and makes people pause.
But this didn't make a difference.
It made everything worse.
I mean, I'm not saying it made a difference and makes people pause. But this didn't make a difference. It made everything worse. Did it make, I mean, I'm not saying it made a difference.
It made a difference in the lives of the children.
But what I am saying is that,
I am not saying it made a difference.
What I am saying is that inevitably,
if people don't start expanding the conversation
about the wealth inequality in our country
and where the wealth is being held
and how it is no longer being reinvested
into the cities, the communities.
If we are not going to if we don't do something about how much the working class of America,
small businesses of America, the blue collar class of America is exploited to make billionaires,
which we spent the whole first half of the show talking about.
We are going to see more and more violence and they're going to care less and less.
Now, I would push back on the notion that this hasn't made any difference to you.
It hasn't made any difference. To you, it hasn't made any difference. To a conservative, it doesn't make any difference because nothing substantive has changed. But a lot of people, the difference is emotional for them.
And now people are talking about this and paying attention to this and they feel like they're being
heard. And for them, that's the difference. I would argue the left feels like he made a difference
because he opened the door for them to accept political violence, which they largely now do.
So there was that poll that came out recently that found they they pulled, I think, what is it, like 2000 people?
And they found 55 percent of people of people left aligned, be it liberal to left, were supportive of the assassination of political leaders, including Donald Trump.
So what Manjione did didn't change the health care system.
It entrenched it.
It made the higher ups who run these companies hide their positions and hide their names.
I agree.
Cover this up.
It did not affect premiums.
It did not affect policy.
But to the left, what was done?
It was more symbolic of we will eat the rich.
It opened the door for Jimmy Kimmel and Colbert
to celebrate and advocate for political violence.
And the audience cheered for it.
It created a moment where they can culturally
and publicly state their intention
to murder. And the right doesn't do that. The financial circumstances of our country
are opening the doors to political violence by not serving their voters anymore. And I am not
saying I agree with it. I don't. I don't. But the more that our politicians are serving CEOs
and billionaires, the more we're parading billionaires and taking their money and serving their interests instead of our voters, the more that that has happened, the
more that voters have to increasingly find ways to make themselves heard.
And again, every civilization in human history where we reached this level of wealth inequality,
political violence followed.
Until there was a revolution and we went full guillotine down Wall Street.
And that's what's going to happen if our politicians don't start listening to their voters.
What do you mean guillotines down Wall Street?
I am saying that Marie Antoinette may have gotten the guillotine in the French Revolution,
but the next revolution that happens in our country,
if we don't start listening to voters, is going to be on Wall Street.
It's going to be for the billionaires.
And I would push back on the right not engaging in political violence it's not violence of a physical sort like killing people but i guarantee you the
left feels right now that trump is inflicting political violence on them it's not on their
ng no it's a question of is he or isn't he i don't mean physically i don't mean physically he's
destroying their ngo money laundering operations he is attacking the independent agencies. Right, right, right.
I get what you're saying.
And I agree.
Trump is crushing our enemies, and we are very happy to see him do it.
But my point is, when we're dealing with political structures, the way you do it is what Trump
is doing.
He is doing everything right.
The left is threatening to murder people because of it. Let me pull up this story. This is going he's doing everything right. Sure. The left. I'm just talking about their perception to murder people because of it. Let me let me pull up this the story. This is
going viral. It's a massive story. This seemingly unknown guy named Nicholas Decker posted this
article, which now has nine point two million views with fourteen thousand responses and five
thousand three hundred retweets saying, quote, when must we kill them? Where he wrote an essay
that says because of what Donald Trump is doing, the question must be asked among those who oppose
Trump. When will they decide to physically murder him and everyone else? Well, the first thing I
would say is when must we kill them? The answer is never. That is not the way we handle politics
in this country, no matter what you think is going on. There is nothing in this country right now that rises to the level of needing political violence.
And I said this during Biden's administration as well. When people were on the right, we're saying,
how do we know when it's gone too far? They're arresting Trump's lawyer. I say,
we're going to have an election and we're going to win and Trump's going to win the popular vote.
And that will show that the people are awake and we're going to do this right. And we did.
The Democrats have now realized they're on the wrong side of history.
For people like Bill Maher, what has he done?
He had a meeting with Trump.
He came and said, you know, Trump was a nice guy.
Wow, I can't believe it.
He started moderating his pitch.
Charlemagne, the God, what did he do?
Oh, you know what?
Maybe Trump isn't a fascist.
For these middle of the road default libs, as soon as Trump won the popular vote, they
said, oh, I'm on the wrong side of history.
But for the hardcore progressives, for the far left, there's no coming back from where they went. So they have no choice
but to carry on. And that's why they write things like this. So, again, this this argument that he's
making is quite literally the Mangione effect now being written and shared far and wide by the left
advocating for, quote, evil has come to America.
The president, the president's administration is engaged in barbarism.
And it goes on to make a largely what you describe as Trump's attack on the institutions.
The funny thing is, if you read this paragraph largely from as if this guy was a conservative, it aligns pretty, pretty similarly.
The first paragraph does. Yeah, exactly.
Imprisoning your political opponents like the Democrats did to Trump and his lawyers
and the people who tried to help Donald Trump and his advisors.
The thing is, the Trump supporters never did decide to go out and murder or kill anybody.
Nobody even died on January 6th.
As bad as January 6th was, a riot happened at the Capitol that should not have happened.
But that was after... Well, somebody died. Nobody, no Trump supporter killed anybody in January 6th.
Correct, correct, correct. To clarify. Yep. So the right did not, even when they committed the
worst violence from the right we've seen, and I'm going to clarify, the right is a fake term.
Let's say Trump supporters, the Trump base. When this story came up, I did some digging.
I asked you at GPT, which, who commits more political violence left or right what did it say no answer the right oh substantially and so i said
okay define the right and what did say anti-government it said uh isn't that the anarchist
indeed and it said anarchist and And it said neo-Nazi.
And it said white nationalist.
And I said, some of those factions disagree with each other.
How are they the right?
The definition given by academics to define the right as violence, they took a bunch of random groups and called it the right.
Neo-Nazis and libertarians are at the opposite ends of the spectrum.
They despise each other.
But these academics call them both the right sovereign citizens who believe that they are free from government control are at the opposite end of the spectrum from neo-Nazis who believe the government should have full authority and control over people on a racial identity.
Yet the academics will combine them.
So I asked it.
Let's clarify.
Pro Trump, the conservative mainstream faction of right wingers that we describe it.
No violence. None.
I have literally gone all the way to the mat since I covered the assassination attempt in Butler on my live stream the day that it happened.
And I have gone all the way to the mat and said that for anyone that feels like somebody missed or that the world could have been better
had someone not missed,
which I find to be vulgar and disgusting.
Nobody that feels that way has any idea
how horrific it would have been
for the fabric of our country.
Nobody understands what would have happened to our country
in the weeks, months, and years that followed that
had anyone succeeded in assassinating one of our political candidates
and no and that that political violence is never ever ever the answer well we haven't had david
brooks in the new york times today calling for um you know uprising an uprising against trump and
trumpism he said what is happening now is not normal politics.
We're seeing an assault on the fundamental institutions of our civic life,
things we should all swear loyalty to, Democrat, Independent or Republican.
He's talking about Harvard and he's talking about the NIH and USAID,
all of these things that have completely lost.
Didn't Barbara Baxter just call for taking to the streets too?
Well, they all do it.
Someone went out and gave a speech and said, take to the streets, rise up.
Yeah, here it is.
I thought that was Maxine Waters.
It was Maxine.
I'm sorry.
Thank you.
Maxine Waters.
I stole it from you.
It's okay.
That's correct.
She gave the answer first.
She said it before.
So did Kamala Harris.
It won't stop and it's not going to stop.
Which actually makes me want to push back on your Mangione effect because I feel like
I've seen the same type of violent rhetoric
of you need to rise up you need to do these things before Trump was assassinated because we were all
saying that what led to Trump well not not assassinated but before Trump was shot because
once he was we were saying look at all the things that the people on the left especially the
Democratic nominee for president has said which has led to this political violence so I don't
think it's the Mangione effect I think that that's a part of it.
But I think it's this left-wing desire to scare people into thinking that it's the end of the Constitution and rise up.
And that came from the political, the 2024 political campaign.
Just to clarify, the Mangione effect is just to describe an uptick in public support for violence following the assassination.
It's a step function up.
So it's a subset of all of what you're describing.
It is not right.
So it just basically, after the CEO was killed,
we saw public conversations that were supportive of violence.
I mean, we saw those after the assassination attempt as well.
On Trump?
On Trump.
Yes.
Right.
They're calling it the Mangione effect because he's become a saint figure to the left.
They use his photo and they make it literally.
They need the candles.
I'm going to keep saying it's not the left.
It's the younger generations.
I mean, it might be more left, maybe.
But by and large, the younger generations are more left historically.
Because when we, what did they say?
Under 30 and you've got a heart, you've got to be a liberal.
Over 30 and you've got a brain, you've got to be a conservative. Over 30 and you've got a brain, you've got to be a conservative.
It's like an old shtick.
But that's not currently true.
I agree.
I agree.
We made huge gains with Gen Z.
And that's because Gen Z decided that the left was not serving them.
They're educated.
They're smart.
They're intelligent.
If he doesn't serve them, they're going to turn on him too.
Gen Z is seeing a resurgence in quote, like literal quote, faith in Jesus.
Yes, I agree.
I actually recorded a segment on this earlier.
Trevor Noah came out and said he believes that everything will get worse if the church goes away and that people need church.
And I was surprised to hear him say it.
We need a moral compass.
We need morality.
And a church is a pretty good vector for instilling morality in a population.
Among Gen Z, they have the highest surge in faith in Jesus Christ.
Yeah, they are.
That's absolutely true.
So like boomers are the lowest, actually, which is interesting.
66% of boomer females and 62% of boomer males.
Everybody looked at me. They say, are you a boomer females and 62% of boomer males. Everybody looked at me.
They said, are you a boomer?
How old are you?
By like two weeks.
Oh, okay.
Congratulations.
What a boomer thing to say.
And then actually, I think I can just pull this up.
I mean, that's definitely true.
Just judging from my family,
my parents' generation,
my father eventually became born again,
but my parents' generation, they gave up religion entirely to the point where my great-grandmother, my Nona, she gave me her rosary beads that were really precious to her that had been blessed by Pope John Paul II.
And she gave them to me.
She was like, you're Catholic?
You're the only one.
So I was wrong.
Millennials are the biggest uptick.
So take a look at this.
So this is tracking Gen Z over the past six years and 54 women, 54 percent of women, 52 percent of men in 2019.
As of today, it's 67 percent of men and 61 percent of women.
Major boost among millennials.
58 percent of women and 52 percent of men in 2019, now it's 71% of men
and 64% of women. The one thing that's really interesting is in the younger generation,
men are overwhelmingly moving towards Jesus Christ. The question was,
the percentage of U.S. adults by generation who say, quote,
I have made a personal commitment to follow Jesus that is still important in my life
today. They need inspiration and guidance, and they're not getting it from their parents,
and they're not getting it from college. And they're not getting it from the elites in
Washington. They're not getting it from our elected officials. They're not getting it from
anywhere else. So that makes perfect sense to me that they would turn towards the church.
I think there's two factors here. One is that conservatives had way more kids in the 2000s. So I talked about that ad nauseum, in fact, that it was like 1.8 for, no, it was 2.01 in the 2000s for conservatives and like 1.7 for liberals, or 1.43. And that meant that for every, you know, eight that were being born or whatever.
There were three that were aborted.
Well.
That makes it for the point they're half a kid.
That's probably true, actually.
The reason the liberals were lower was because they were engaging in abortions.
But this means that of the kids born, there's going to be four that are conservative and three that are liberal.
So what do you do in 20 years?
You are going to see a huge boost, 12 percent or so.
And that's exactly what we've seen, 11.6%.
You import tens of millions of third-worlders who are dependent upon the Democrats for their
lives.
Indeed.
They're all so deeply, generally Catholic.
But what I'm describing...
They're also impoverished and they're dependent upon...
The government gives them housing, medical care, food.
I need to clarify.
What I'm describing doesn't account for the fact that the same Gen Z cohort from 2019 has become more Christian.
That implies an ideological shift over time.
And Gen Z's eldest are 27 years old. about 21-year-olds who six years ago were atheists and now a 15% increase among men that have come to
come to the church come to Christianity well what's happened in the last six years a lot of
bad stuff a lot of bad stuff and when you look at millennials their entire life has been a slew of
bad stuff over and over and over again they've survived so many you know once in a hundred year
once in a century,
you know, catastrophic things that just keep happening
one after another.
Actually, what I find fascinating
about that idea that millennials have
is what's actually once in a century
or longer is the golden age in the 90s.
After the fall of the Soviet Union,
we had, I mean, that was it.
America was the unipolar dominant power
the Cold War was over.
And so Americans lived pretty dang well yeah we sure did all the way up to the dot-com i was just gonna say
indeed so there was this period of not even 10 years or so where millennials were growing up
so when the disasters start happening they go these are all once-in-a-lifetime disasters and
it's like actually my grandfather lived through the Great Depression, two world wars, the assassination of Kennedy.
Like it was this after. Yeah, it was a whole life was a series of political.
I would suggest this was deliberate. I mean, I came of age in the 80s.
I went through high school and college in the 80s. 1980s America was a fundamentally different place than the United States.
It was pretty good right
it was amazing there was 80 possibility though there was you know we had 80 to 84 bunch of the
like monopolies that was the time yeah i graduated high school in 83 so you were jamming with your
buddies to men at work oh yeah for sure that was it will never recover acdc in my case but
no man at work the greatest band of all time okay Okay. I mean... We'll have to fight it out. Agree to disagree
there. The 90s were like
the reward
for what America had come
through. It's like a reward. It was like a reward
for what we'd come through. We had peace.
We had... There was money. I remember
like I was, you know, doing
art and stuff and there was just money
everywhere. It's like we'd... Our friends
would go out. We'd have no money. Someone would buy us a bunch of oysters and champagne. And there was just money everywhere. It's like we'd, our friends would go out, we'd have no money.
Someone would buy us a bunch of oysters and champagne.
Like,
I don't know.
I don't know who paid.
Well,
you were a young woman at the time.
I know,
but I was out with like guys,
girls,
like it was,
you know,
cause you didn't date in the nineties.
You just went out with a group of your 10 friends.
Is that what the show was about?
I don't know.
Real world?
No friends.
In nineties.
I was,
I graduated high school in 98.
Yeah, I graduated before that, but like
yeah.
Wow, how old are you? 37.
I graduated in 05.
You and me. I'm 39.
These people. The youngest kid at the table?
I'm 33.
Serge is the youngest, but he's not talking.
He won't admit to anything.
That's fair. Stone God.
Well, there is a detective present.
Yeah, right.
You know, I forgot.
Like, no one's supposed to talk to this guy.
What are we doing?
He's going to leave, and he's got a recorder, and he's got a notepad.
He's going to write down everything that was written.
He's going to be like, if you ever come to Buffalo.
I took notes.
Took notes.
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Severus Light says, shut it to angry cops and his crack house.
At least you're not moving sandbags without knowing why.
What?
I have a crack house.
It actually ended up on a deposition
that i was in um i bought a crack house and i've been flipping it i'm turning it into a youtube um
uh airbnb oh cool like me and the unsubscribed guys that i hang out with are going to have like
items in there from uh different youtube channels and stuff like that oh that's cool right on and
then you had you were in it there was a deposition where you said you had a crack house.
The deposition came up and it's the whole investigation was whether or not the ticketing practices, the vehicle and traffic tickets in the city of Buffalo in my proactive policing unit were discriminatory based on race.
And they brought it up and they said, you have I i'm there i'm sworn in i'm sitting you know
at the stand and they're like you have a crack house describe what is a crack house i'm like
oh it's any dilapidated building and they're trying to make it racial so they're like are
there any crack houses on the east side of buffalo where black people live and i'm like
there's there's crack houses everywhere man and they're like and who likes crack i was like
everybody it's like that everybody likes crack you know was like, everybody. It's like that.
Everybody likes crack.
You know that family guy joke where Peter is smoking crack and then Brian goes, Peter, what are you doing?
He's like smoking crack.
He's like, where the hell did you get crack?
And he goes, from Blacks.
Yeah, there's a white guy behind Blacks Hardware selling it.
Yeah.
Yeah, Blacks Hardware.
Concrete Haiti says, with AC in the house tim i'll recommend getting
brandon herrera fat electrician habitual line crosser eli donut trout etc around
or swing by the unsub house um yes to all of those but a double yes to donut operator because
bro you gotta come skate i love habitual line crosser his content is so great we've we've
reached out to donutut, too.
And I think it's just like everybody's busy, especially if you're doing your own show.
But Donut, you got to come skate.
Come on.
He's a cop who skates.
All right, let's grab some more.
Mason Wolfie says Biden's pardons may be revocable due to how broad they are.
Not pardoning for a specific crime.
I believe that's incorrect.
It's just never been tested you can make the argument it's it literally says you can be pardoned for in offense against
the united states does that mean you have to specify in offense we haven't required that
i mean they uh jimmy carter pardoned all the vietnam vietnam war draft dodgers yeah uh and
nixon got a broad pardon and so it just it's never been tested
because we've never really had a reason to believe that it's possible that a pardon's been issued
without the actual authority of the article 2 executive branch president what about universal
injunctions too yeah i have strong unconstitutional injunctions right district courts have limited
jurisdiction they have limited
geographic jurisdiction limited subject matter jurisdiction and they act like they have authority
over the entire universe and they're not true and they've and they keep issuing these rulings
injunctions have the second highest standard in the legal profession or in the judicial
branch because they're supposed to be narrow in scope and involve extreme specificity and you have to
have all of the elements met.
They're literally described as exceptional remedies.
Exceptional remedies, yes.
And we're seeing them in every one of these lawfare cases.
Scores and scores and scores of them.
Temporary restraining orders, preliminary injunctions being issued.
They're supposed to be rare and exceptional.
My favorite was when the judge ruled that the military must admit anyone.
Did you see this case?
No.
You didn't see that?
No.
All right, so here's what happened.
Trump said, I'll give you the paraphrasing.
If you are displaying publicly symptoms of gender dysphoria, you cannot serve.
What that basically means is if you are diagnosed with gender dysphoria,
but you are not cross-dressing,
you are not putting on makeup,
you're calling yourself and you're acting normally,
you're fine.
A judge ruled it was discriminatory
and the military must allow all to serve
because, quote, all means all.
I believe there's over 40 different DSM-5 criteria
for not being allowed to enlist in the military.
Yeah.
Like schizophrenia.
Or being dumb.
Too dumb.
This universal injunction meant that if you were a paranoid, schizophrenic, paraplegic, you were allowed to enlist and they had to bring you in.
They're called grenades.
You wheel them in.
Darwinism.
They're all on the front line.
That's Darwinism, sir. You drop them in like the 82nd Airborne front line. That's Darwinism, sir.
You drop them in like the 82nd Airborne.
Except when they land, they detonate.
And no VA disability.
If the judge was like some gritty, crazy, flat-top guy being like,
anybody can join because you send them in and they detonate,
would be very different from the woke female being like,
it's so mean to not let them in.
Dude, I got kicked off.
So I'm a drill sergeant.
And every year I go down to Fort Leonard, Missouri, and I turn civilians into soldiers.
And this last time I got kicked off the trail being a drill sergeant after 10 days because
all the females went to the side.
I knew it was going to be this.
All the females went to the side.
I didn't tell them to do that.
The senior drill sergeant was going to give them a pep talk because they
were all sad, which happens. Everybody gets sad. They catch the sad and then they want to go,
I should quit. And then we have to motivate them to be like, you're part of a team. And they go,
we're part of a team. So they go to the side. What's that? The men, do the men do this? Oh,
yeah. The men, men, it happens really quickly and they bond quickly after for the females it usually takes like a week or two for them to catch the quit and then get over it so
they go to the side and while they're on the side about to get this motivational speech i make them
do push-ups because i don't like they've been unprofessional they've been smiling at me giggling
you know like and i go quit the flirting if you don't quit the flirting i I'm going to bring the Universal Court of Military Justice on you, the sexual harassment and rape prevention program.
Wow.
And if you continue to do this, I'm going to take your money.
As in the United States government is going to take your money because we're going to take your funds, your pay and say, all right, you know, $500 out of this paycheck because you don't want to follow the rules and negatively counsel you, which is well within my right and part of the sexual harassment program.
All of this is right.
But because I said that, made them do push-ups and walked around them,
numerous females were like, when we were doing push-ups, he walked behind us.
And sometimes his legs straddled my legs.
You're in a formation.
I'm literally walking over you to make sure that
the ones that are faking doing push-ups and looking around i call out for being fat and weak
and then you all stand up and so after that like 10 or 15 minutes that's what happened they all
complained they i said drill sergeant hi he's a meanie and the investigation happened i got
so then so someone came to you and told you to get out or
what happened so what happened was and this investigation was put together very poorly
not just like from a detective's point of view but from a military member that has
has seen and been a part of these investigations looking at other things or seeing them from the
side what had happened was a number of troops had made a complaint, like one or two or three, right? And normally what happens, the right way, is that the first line leader of the company finds out and they try to solve it. If they can't, they go to the battalion says, who here feels like Drill Sergeant High said something mean to you?
And they all went.
And so then that's what happened.
It turned into a massive bitch session.
What's the what's the guy's name?
You know, I'm talking about the drill sergeant, the drill sergeant, E. Lee.
Arlie Ermey.
Arlie Ermey.
Yeah.
We needed him.
I love that.
You know what I wanted to hear?
What's that? I wish your story was
something different where they came down and said,
which one of you feel that Drill Sergeant
Hyde said something mean? And they raised their hand,
get on the ground now! And just
doubled the push-ups.
That is once
the Senior Drill Sergeant or the investigator
came up to me and said you know
hey this is what happened we felt we've it's unfounded what you did was correct and they're
just being a bunch of babies then i mean you can't really say because you made a complaint
i i'm gonna smoke you but i would find a reason you should be able to yeah i don't see why not
you wasted everybody's time you had a false allegation if you complain and it's false
and we should say oh so this allegation is false and unfounded?
Okay, 50 pushups.
Yes, Tim, but if we hold people accountable for lying, what about the real people who want to say they could be affected in some way?
It was their truth.
It was their truth, Tim.
And in the Army, we all care about individual freedoms.
This was during the Biden administration, I'd imagine holy shit how did you know well i i think i'm hoping what i hear about hegseth has been true
and correct and the moves he's making have been good i uh i had somebody reach out from military
times and they wanted to ask me about the uh hegseth and what the military thinks of the hagseth and they tried
to say the the signal issue which is an issue but like they tried to make it seem like it was larger
than what it was and said we want your point of view the meme is sphere in the military which is
fairly large and a very good way of spreading information it really doesn't like hagseth and
i was like really like yeah we want to talk to you about all these meme pages and stuff like that
and the memes about them and i'm like all right well send me some of these meme pages and let me see what they're all
about you know i i'm in that sphere i know who's got the voice you know and he sent me like three
memes one of which is from an account that likes hegseth but you know it's low-hanging fruit to
pick on him for the signal thing yeah and like the the other two examples were like the uh accounts
with like 1500 followers
and i was like well i don't really see what you're what you're saying but i'll gladly listen to you
well that wasn't the answer he wanted yeah he's never called me again i'm hoping the woke stuff's
getting getting pushed back my question for you is what do these women do so i did uh engineer
oset which is one station unit training. So Combat Arms does
OSET, where basic training and their job
training are together. They stay in the same barracks
with the same drill sergeants the entire
time they don't move, which is mainly Combat
Arms. So as an engineer,
we'll go with Combat Engineers,
your job is to remove obstacles
and close
distance with the enemy and kill them, and
your primary... These women? What's that? These women are supposed to do and kill them. And your primary...
What's that?
These women are supposed to do this?
Correct.
And you have to carry cratering charges and C4 and other explosives.
Why?
Honest question.
How come everyone I know who tells me a story out of basic says exactly what you said about
the women?
And I mean this sincerely.
I'm not trying to drag women.
In your experience, do women tend to behave that way in basic training?
Well, Tim, this might shock a lot of people, but men and women are different.
There is a female nature.
But this is correct and understandable, but does that mean the difference includes whinging?
Whinging?
Good word.
I don't know what that means.
Complaining.
Complaining?
Yeah.
I just showed my army-ness because I don't know your big words.
Females are more sensitive.
And when I say that, I mean in the highs and the lows.
If you say something negative, they take it to heart much deeper than a male trainee that's 17 years old.
However, if you give positive reinforcement and you build them up, they really support each other better than men in some points.
Like they'll group together and try to be like a unit a little bit faster.
Men, you'll get a lot more like headbutting and machismo, which creates competition and is good in its own way.
What I've heard is that in the initial stages of basic, the men are all fighting.
Yes.
But by the end, they figured out who's in all fighting. Yes. But by the end, they've figured out who's in charge.
Oh, not even by the end.
After three weeks, four weeks at the most, they've kind of understood the hierarchy is we're in charge, and we will pick who's going to lead you, and then they will follow them because of my authority.
I've heard that for women, when they start, they're very nice to each other. But by the end, they're catty and cliquish.
Yes.
Because for men, the hierarchy is explicit and desirable and a valuable trait.
For the women, they hide.
They want to pretend there is no hierarchy.
They know there is.
Every woman walks into the room and knows if there's a hotter chick than her in the room.
But they pretend that's not.
That's why they, on these shows, they say, oh, I'm a 10.
I'm a 10.
I'm a 10.
You're a 10.
We're all 10s.
Obviously, it's not true.
10s are one in a million.
But they'll say it as if they mean it, and they mean it in an emotional sense.
Let's grab some more of your guys' chats.
A.K. Archer says, prosecute Fauci.
Also, I am nominating Brandon Herrera and Richard High for director of the ATF and deputy director of the ATF, respectively.
Hey, A.C., can you say trunnion three times for me?
Love the show, guys.
Oh, God.
Brandon Herrera makes weapons, and he says trunnion a million times over.
And I intentionally psy-opped him in my video saying trunnion and acting like I was coming.
And every time he says trunnion now, he, like, giggles and can't get through it the first
time.
I did enjoy Phil shared his forced reset trigger video i was i was very much a fan i
haven't seen that one yet it was it was it was a small clip that i watched but it basically is a
machine gun not a machine gun you know what i mean it's almost like if you try to take away
our rights we'll find a way to circumvent them i love how it's a loophole like so so for those
that don't know what that is i I'm not a gun expert or anything,
but basically, it was
one trigger pull, one round.
Otherwise, it's automated.
And so what happens is, after it
fires, it resets the trigger by force
with the return of the bolt.
So if you hold your finger down,
your finger's being pushed forward, and then
pulling the trigger back just by holding
onto it. So it's like,
like a machine gun.
It's not going to be a bump stock.
It's going to be a force reset trigger.
They're going to keep trying to make the laws.
And there's,
what are they going to end up trying to do?
Like if,
if more than three bullets leave the barrel within a certain amount of time,
it's a machine gun now.
Yeah.
But you can't even do that because you've got speed shooters that are
exactly exceptional.
How about they just abolish all of this this bs
uh actually as a cop how would you feel about that like if they if they abolished nfa all gun
control and people could have guns and like machine guns do you have a concern about that as a cop i'm
a constitutionalist i like it the problem will sort itself out good people will be armed bad
people won't you will be employed for the rest of your life easily
because people will, you know, make
asses out of themselves. Nothing will change for bad
people. These people who have switches on their
glocks illegally, they're already
doing all the illegal things. They're not obeying
the gun laws. It's like when people talk about
background checks. I'm like, we should have universal
background checks. We should have no background checks.
We already have background checks. Bad guys don't buy
their guns through a background check. They send a girlfriend into the gun store they
buy it out of the trunk of a car i mean where i've never sir atlanta is not a hotbed for all
the firearms that come into my city i'll have you know that do you ever get in trouble for
like it's you're you're you're in the military and you're a cop and you're doing a show where you're, you know.
Oh, yeah.
Being explicit and transparent.
Andrew Cuomo had someone in his office that had to watch every single one of my videos.
Oh, nice.
I have a permanent negative checkmark on my career because of Andrew Cuomo, because of Bill de Blasio.
Well, Bill de Blasio was a piece of shit.
Yes.
I know.
Well. Yeah, he de Blasio was a piece of shit. Yes. Well, yeah.
Horrible. I imagine there
are a lot of people who want to be
stopped by you or pulled over or whatever
it is you're doing. They're like, oh, that'd be so cool.
I'm pretty easy
going. I've seen a lot of crazy shit.
So like, you know, pulling somebody over for speeding,
it's like it's an option for me.
It's a time for me to talk to you. Hey, how
you doing? What you doing?
Where you going, crashy?
You know, and then as they're cool.
Call people crashy.
You're fine.
Call people crashy.
If they crash.
It's like the family guy thing.
Oh, I've quoted.
What do you call people that speed?
Or like, what do you call people that are like?
Weirdos.
Okay.
I go, hey, weirdo, why are you going so fast?
And then they look at me like I've got two heads.
And I'm like, this is going to be good.
Let's grab some more.
What do you have?
St. Miles says, I don't think the guests are catching the point Tim is making.
The victim and situation has brought illumination on the national stage of the gang's activity
and how a national threat the gang is.
No, I caught that.
To a degree, yeah.
Yeah.
There was a chat that I think someone made. Let me see
if I can find it. It's always really hot.
Here we go. Here's a couple that I want to read.
Michelle Heim says,
I'm an abuse survivor, and I can tell you
we can maintain contact
when we have an order for protection, because
we are in fear of our lives due to threats
still being made. I married my first
husband because of it.
You can maintain contact when
you have an order of protection uh if there's custody disputes so if there's if there's children
oh i see right then the orders of protection will specifically state that they are not allowed to
have like any negative contact with one another or sometimes zero contact with one another unless
it is specifically for uh child care or some other things and sometimes
in you know heavier cases it's a representative of the family justice system or courts family
courts in new york would have to be there yeah maryland we have conditional we have to we we
have peace orders and protective orders too that do different things and if there's kids involved
they can be conditional in the ways that they implement them. Jennifer K. says, Tim, I think you're right about the wife of Abrego Garcia being coerced
by MS-13.
Once they have Garcia, they can use that as leverage to get info about MS-13.
Check to see if he was married to Jen when previously arrested.
Interesting.
Is that a consideration?
Like, if she goes to the police and says, he beat me, so they say, OK, we're going to
pick him up.
Could MS-13 be concerned he'll turn informant or even accidentally give up information on him?
They could be concerned.
I'm not going to lie, though.
Using confidential informants, it's fairly safe.
The only time that like a confidential informant really gets burned is when they burn themselves.
The first thing I tell them is shut up.
Don't tell anybody, including your wife or girlfriend
you normally just talk to them on the phone and a lot of it's in person and if you talk to them
on the phone i mean yeah you can talk to them on the phone is there any risk of them being found
out if they're talking to you in person normally they'll text you first well so before i was an
svu i worked with the fbi safe streets program which is anti uh gang and so when i had confidential
informants the way that we would talk with one another is
literally via cell phone. They had a cell phone. They'd shoot me a text. If it was text now app,
or if it was, um, you know, I message or whatever, they'd shoot me a text and just save me under a
different name. They're not going to say, you know, special agent attached to the FBI detective
Richard high messaging me, you know, but you hide in plain sight sight then when they look and they're like special
agent fbi be like it's a joke for my buddy man oh yeah i've called oh it makes sense i've had guys
like have me saved in their phone as like 007 boy dude punk all right what's uh what's what we got
going here michelle heim says i see something happening globally that got exposed when Trump was elected. He's not part of the monarchy lineage and isn't supposed to be president.
It's why they keep trying to erase both terms.
He's breaking their machine.
That's right.
That's the liberal economic order.
Trump, when he went after USAID, I think if you look at all of Trump's actions, even with foreign policy, he's basically saying we will destroy the liberal economic order.
Correct.
The whole culture.
I mean, that's why he's going after the universities, too.
Right.
And so for those who are not familiar, simple version, after World War II, a bunch of world leaders got together and said, let's create a conspiracy to control world affairs using international banking.
And Trump is destroying it.
So the NGOs are a process of that. The funding of NGOs,
the lawyers who work in and around D.C., the International Monetary Fund, the Bank of
International Settlements, the Swift Payment System, all of this is we're going to control
you through debt and financing. And Trump is like, break it. And all these independent agencies that
have no legitimacy under our constitutional order, including the Federal Reserve, including the CIA,
they're answerable to nobody.
Our founders didn't create an Article 4 branch of government called independent agencies.
And I want to just make sure this is available to all of our listeners.
This is the website called education.cfr.org.
This is the Council on Foreign Relations.
And this is the NGO breaking down for you.
What is the liberal world order?
Explore the organizations and agreements that have promoted global peace and prosperity since the end of World War Two, as well as the challenges that the liberal world order now faces in this video.
In the late 80s, early 90s, George H.W. Bush, making a reference to the liberal world order, said we can now begin to see a new world order forming, which birthed the phrase new world order.
The media then claimed it was a conspiracy to say that there were powerful, powerful world leaders seeking to control the globe.
What George H.W. Bush was saying was quite literally, this has existed since the 50s.
It exists today and it's becoming something different.
It is not a conspiracy theory. It is real.
And it's it's right here on the CFR's website.
You can just read about it.
That's what they do.
Trump is basically gutting all the mechanisms of the liberal world order.
And I love it.
I think it's great.
Anyway.
Let's go.
We had a good funny one.
Let me grab that.
Call for Prez says,
Sending some Buffalo to everybody,
especially angry cops.
Would love to discuss the future of cannabis
and festivals in Western New York
with someone in law enforcement.
Big Buffalo.
Is that what you guys say up there?
Yeah, it's like a thing.
Buffalo?
Yeah, Buffalo.
It's Buffalo.
Do they have like a big wing festival up there?
Oh yeah, we have a wing festival.
I want to go.
It's good.
I love wing.
My brother-in-law's from Buffalo.
I have a fire truck that I turned into a
tailgating mobile that I take first responders and
veterans out. Oh, that's fun. And you can climb
on the back. It's a big dance floor, speakers,
bar. Is it like a modern one
or like a vintage style? I have
three. So I've got a vintage
one, like a
early 90s one, which is
our flagship
where do you put
three fire trucks?
pole barns
parked in my buddy's driveway
oh man
alright we'll grab some more
chats here we got a couple more minutes
it's jumping
on me come on YouTube
Reese Mendocino says Tiffany has a point as a young
person i am watching every day how young men are becoming more and more upset and just want to set
the world on fire yeah indeed but uh i would say the statistics bear out that more and more young
men are becoming christians which is i don't think there are a lot of christians that are
simultaneously also wanting to destroy everything.
I think there's probably two distinct reactions.
But I would say I understand what you're saying.
And I agree that a lot of young people are becoming upset.
But I don't think it's the majority.
They don't want to destroy everything.
They want to destroy the binds on them. They want to destroy the shackles that are dragging them down.
And it's not like they're being, this is not like
they're not motivated. They're working harder than any generation ever has. They all have five
side hustles and a full-time job. Double employment is a current thing right now. And they can't pay
their bills. They're 33 and have six roommates. Okay. Like it's not, it's not, they don't have
hope and we can't, we can't replace them in the population because they can't afford to get married
or have kids. It's going to make it worse and worse and at the same time with as much wealth
consolidation as we have all that wealth consolidation how if you have a billion dollars
how much are you spending a week gary stevenson's an economist he talks about this a lot too probably
the same as i'm spending now right like if you're if you're a billionaire maybe you spend 50 000
maybe you spend 100 000 let's say you spend a million a week.
Your compound interest is still doubling and tripling that constantly.
I want to say, actually, it is possible to spend a million a week, but it's extremely difficult to spend a million a week.
And if you are spending it, you're not spending it with small businesses in the middle class.
It's just getting handed off to another billionaire.
We're not reinvesting in the places where we need it and they're
hopeless the way you spend a million a week reasonably and legitimately is like having
i don't know um what would you have a ditty party 500 employees at a company so you you've got a
million dollars in your account you have 500 employees your company doing something for you you're going to pay those labor costs the idea that uh there there was uh i think did
mr beast do this something like you've got to spend 10 million dollars like or i don't know
if it was mr beast probably a million right but it's actually and it has to be legitimate it can't
be gratuity and the question is how would you actually spend that money and uh you can't be gratuity. And the question is, how would you actually spend that money? And you can't buy property. It's like buying good services that are available to a consumer.
How do you spend a million dollars in a week? It's a lot of people are like,
go to a fancy restaurant. Okay. Fancy restaurant's going to be, I don't know,
for you and the missus, 700 bucks, depending on fancy. Some places you can get upwards of five.
If you really want to push it, go to, go go to nusret and spend five grand on some golden steaks come on keep going 995 000 left to go not though they're
just not no one's spending that much money they're and it they it's it's all so concentrated and
money is a finite resource i mean i know we love to print it but it is a finite resource
and the more it is consolidated the more it reconstitutes and compounds
there. And that has to come from somewhere.
It is coming from the working
class. That actually shows it's not finite.
Compounding interest,
the modern monetary system
is not finite. It's actually the opposite.
That's why it's inflationary. I understand that we can
print it. I understand it is inflationary.
But the interest of the money
you're generating, the money is created upon issuance of debt, meaning that the banks aren't making money
instantly. When rich people have money and they're the only ones that have it, the only things they
really have to spend it on after a certain point is buying up more companies, which leads to more
consolidation. I'm pretty sure I could spend about half a million dollars in about five hours on
57th and Madison. That sounds wonderful. Again, they're not
doing it. And if they are doing it, they're not doing it where it can make a difference
for the people that need it right now. When you see a big expense, it's like, I don't know if
you have 10 people in Vegas and you request like private top tier penthouse dining and you're
going to get a $300,000 bill. It's possible to do, right? But in normal day-to-day, buying the best of the best,
buying the best clothes, even buying
cars, it's
relatively
difficult. Mark Zuckerberg's
yacht costs like $13 million
a month to maintain. His sub-yacht
is another $3 million. That's meaningless.
Those millions are not going to help the working
class. Sure. We have to find a way
to get money back into the working class.
How is it not helping the working class?
I was going to say, you've got the people that are working the ships.
You have a very small amount of people working the ships.
Most of the corporations that service yachts are huge, giant, multinational corporations.
That's not true.
Okay.
When most yacht usage is daily rentals and they're relatively cheap.
Mark Zuckerberg is not renting out his yacht.
He sure isn't.
But the companies that do repairs and stuff, it's mostly small businesses.
So we've got Annapolis an hour and a half, two hours away.
Yeah, the yacht shows this week.
I'm going.
Yeah, you just rent a thousand bucks, rent a yacht.
And you got it for
the day you know maybe depending on the size if you want it you're like uh so most of the yachts
are just cons are just uh consignment i don't want to get bogged down in like this one i'm just
saying like if you're spending uh 300 million dollars on a yacht and then the service yacht
which is another 200 or 140 million dollars and then you're servicing it with 30 million dollars
a month in international waters, wherever it's going.
My point is they're not going to Iowa and spending it with a bunch of farmers.
We need the working class to have money come back into the working class, and it's not happening.
Well, so with yacht service, like any other service, you're going to have ancillary services.
You're going to have a guy who makes $20 an hour cleaning.
You're going to have a crew that serve food. You're going to have general repairs.
He has a 26 person crew. That is true. Right. But like three hundred million dollars.
The truth is the world is made for poor. The world is made for the poor is the saying.
People have this perception that the world is made for the wealthy and it's literally not
because there's very few of them. So even the highest and most expensive things are not as expensive as people think they are.
Certainly, there are tricks. Certainly, we hear about on TV the Kardashians and the lifestyle
they have. But usually, luxury that as we perceive it is fake luxury intending to appear like it's
for wealthy people. I can't help but wonder how much wealthier Americans will be if they're not competing for scarce resources like housing, jobs, health care, education with 100 million illegal migrants in the country.
Indeed.
I do want to say the important thing on wealth inequality is the two key issues are – the most important is the perception, not the function.
If poor people feel that there are people who live better than them, whether it's true or not,
is when you get revolts. And the real concern with wealth inequality is power consolidation,
not luxury. So the idea that like a billionaire, like Elon Musk, $400 billion or whatever,
literally means nothing. No, it's just stocks and stuff.
Even if he had $400 billion in the bank in cash, meaningless. The worst thing in the world would
be if he dumped that into the market because it would cause hyperinflation overnight,
and that's a bad thing. The real issue is that the wealth inequality creates a group of people with power over laws and regulations.
Yes. And it consolidates power in that regard. But among the general people, wealth inequality functionally means nothing.
The buying power of the dollar is is based upon the economy, which is the people's willingness to buy and trade with each other. If Elon Musk had 500 billion in cash in the bank, it doesn't and he doesn't spend it.
Nothing happens. Nothing changes. The guy still is going to spend money with his bakery.
There's the rate of exchange is based on the amount of goods being produced,
the amount of services being rendered for that production.
And you can fall into a depression even if there's a factory ready to work, there's a farm with food, the economy stops.
It's basically a function of can people exchange with each other in a well-oiled machine.
A billionaire having money doesn't change or have any effect on that.
If the billionaire dumps his money in Iowa and just starts giving out millions of dollars, it will create massive waves which can lead to hyperinflation and destabilize national economies.
I agree with everything you said almost on the second part. But where you said revolt happens
when people perceive people to have a better situation than them. No, revolt happens when
no matter how hard people work, they have no way to achieve a basic standard of living,
which is where we are right now.
Define standard of living.
A standard of living is putting food on your table and a roof over your head and basic clothes from
a thrift store on your kid's back.
They can't do it right now. Well, they can do that in Cuba
and they're far more poor than us. Right.
This is the point.
If people believe
they have no method
to achieve a basic standard of living,
no matter how...
That's their reality, though. This isn't a belief.
That is the reality of the world right now. America has
fat homeless people. The bigger concern is that. That is the reality of the world right now. America has fat homeless people.
The bigger concern is that Gen Z is cut out from the market.
So we have a generation coming into adulthood who can't buy houses.
And millennials, half of them.
Indeed.
If they didn't get in at exactly the mark, right line in the sand, they have no path.
But this is not wealth inequality.
It's generational disparity.
So the boomers, but we're not talking about, when we refer to wealth disparity, we're talking about oligopoly. We're talking about Ukraine. We're talking about, you know,
like nations that end up in civil war and revolt where you've got a singular class of
millionaires and billionaires that own everything. And the people are like in Ukraine, for instance,
before the war, it was a handful of like 16 people that literally owned all property.
And the crazy thing was a condo, a two bedroom condo in Kiev, where the average income was 400 bucks a month, was 300,000 U.S.
No one who worked in Kiev could afford to buy that.
Who owned it? The oligarchs.
Few people. That is what people typically refer to as wealth inequality that leads to revolt because you can see everybody.
These smaller people literally own everything and there's no movement and you'll never be able to afford it.
In the United States, we have something similar but still different.
Boomers own 70% of boomers own homes.
And I think Gen X is high 60s.
Millennials are half.
And Gen Z is like nothing.
So this system, what we're experiencing right now,
is largely that boomers own all the properties.
Yep.
And they're...
Well, and corporations, which is a huge problem.
They're acquiring up to 46% in most major metropolitan areas right now.
The issue for boomers is if you own the house, just rent it out.
And so Gen Z can't afford it because a boomer can buy a house from another boomer.
And I'm not blaming all boomers because it's not literally all.
It's largely wealthier, older folks.
But boomers own 60% of all corporate equities.
Gen X owns like 20. 20 millennials own like six and
gen z owns none none they own debt none they own and so do most of the millennials so so what's
going to happen as you know and i know we're going over i'll say this when boomers start dying
we are going to see a massive wealth crash in this country the government's gonna have to issue a
bailout of some sort it's going to be bon. How would that crash happen? So boomers own multiple properties.
Yeah. Right now, there's a house not too far away from here that a few years ago,
four years ago, was $200,000. It's $500,000 now. And it's because people will pay it.
Yeah. So a boomer owns a home and they die. That home is then given to their millennial or Gen Z children.
Boomers are going to die at 79.
That means their child will be 60
or, you know, 57.
Yeah, they'll be the Gen Xers.
57-year-old millennial is going to be like,
I'm not moving back to northern Maine
where my parents lived.
So they'll tell their lawyer,
put it on the market.
The lawyer will put it on the market and say, when your parents owned it, the estimate was $1.2 million,
right? Because this is going to be in 20 years. Who can afford $1.2 million? Corporations. Yes.
So one of two things will happen. The corporations will come in and just buy it because they're
getting free Fed money. Yep. Or the crash happens when the guy who owns it says, put it on the market for 1.2.
A week later, the agent says, not a single inquiry.
And then put it up at one.
I don't care.
I don't want to live there.
I just want the money.
Not a single inquiry.
Okay.
What can we, 900?
Not a single inquiry.
Six.
We're getting some interest from corporations.
Younger generations aren't going to buy them.
And the prices are going to get slashed because the corporations will know,
I don't have to pay 1.2 for this.
Gen Z, who's now in their 40s, can only afford a $300,000 house.
So if it's selling for 1.2, I can let it fall to 3.
And then I can offer 3.25 and buy it out from the Gen Z guy.
Right now, boomers are trading in properties based upon the wealth they hold. But the wealth they hold is largely in real estate and corporate equities. When they die, and those corporate
equities and assets are transferred to millennials, the wealth of these is based on the perception
that someone will be willing to pay for it and the offers will exist. But because millennials and Gen Z can't afford to buy it, no one's going to put an offer
on these properties and they're going to have to keep dropping the value of them until they can
find someone who actually has the cash to buy it. That's something that was happening with
homes in golf course communities. I was going to ask about Canada because I know that Canada's
housing market is a train wreck. But right an absolute crisis. But right now, with the current trajectory of private equity and real estate investment trust acquisition of houses in major metropolitan areas,
in areas like Atlanta, over the last three years, they were acquiring as much as 44% of all inventory.
Right now, systematically, it's between 11% and 15% throughout the United States.
But if their current acquisition trajectory continues continues by 2032, they could own
as much as 61% of all of the homes in some metropolitan areas if they keep acquiring
at this and almost everywhere by 2040.
Do you think that's going to push people out of the cities and back into suburbia?
No, they're going to buy it everywhere.
Rural areas?
The point is they're creating a renting class.
They're creating a feudal class.
You will own nothing and be happy.
That's going to be an instant revolt.
That's the result.
That's the revolt that's happening now. That's not an instant revolt.
It's a slow boil that is
boiling. I left New York
so I could buy a house. It's common
everywhere right now. I've worked on cases in California
where they have a 6,000 square foot house
but they've got seven families living in the house.
Each family gets a bedroom. My friends, we do have to go. We have a hard,000 square foot house. They got seven families living in the house. Each family gets a bedroom.
Wow.
My friends, we do have to go.
We have a hard stop because we have construction.
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