Timcast IRL - Trump Admin Preparing INVASION OF CUBA, Say Iran War ALMOST OVER

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

Tim, Tate, and Elaad is joined by Mark Moran to discuss the US preparing an invasion of Cuba, a former democrat says he regrets voting for Spanberger, Trump says Iran War is almost over, a woman freaks out over having to be an adult, a democrat kicked out of the party after finding fraud, and the pentagon asks automakers to produce weapons.  SUPPORT THE SHOW BUY CAST BREW COFFEE NOW - https://castbrew.com/ Join - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLwN... Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Tate @realTateBrown (everywhere) |  @TimcastTateBrown  (YouTube) Elaad @ElaadEliahu (X) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest:  Mark Moran | https://runwithmoran.com/ Podcast available on all podcast platforms! Trump Admin Preparing INVASION OF CUBA, Say Iran War ALMOST OVER| Timcast IRL For advertising inquiries please email [e-mail]

The Trump admin is preparing for an invasion of Cuba because we just can't get enough. Trump did an interview. He said the war in Iran is almost over. This morning, he said the straight is open and we're making China very, very happy. And I honestly, I just, I don't know what to believe at this point. I have whiplash from Trump saying it's open, it's closed with war is over, the seas fire, and we just have no idea. I actually think Trump's plan at this point is to just keep going back and forth so everybody spins around, gets real dizzy, has no idea what's happening. Now in the meantime, apparently there are concerns that Donald Trump wants an invasion of Cuba, so his administration has actually been drafting up plans for this invasion, which we all know

the American people are hungry for. We've wanted Cuba back forever. And actually, I think most people don't care all that much. We'll talk about that. And then this may be the bigger story. Tom Steyer, who's now the frontrunner for governor in California after Eric Swala had to drop out because he was accused of drugging and raping several women. Holy crap. Well, at least drugging and raping one of them. The rest of them, I don't know what happened, but apparently they were drunk, too. So anyway, Tom Steyer says he's going to put ICE in jail. That when ICE comes to California, if he's governor, he's going to arrest and put them in jail. That's where we're going. So what would you, what do you call it when the state threatens federal law enforcement

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Joining us to talk about this and everything else is Mark Moran. Yes, sir. Thank you for having me. Who are you? What do you do? I'm a Renaissance man. I'm running for United States Senate in Virginia. I was running previously as a Democrat.

Now I'm running as an independent. Interesting. I think we'll have to discuss how that happened. I think so. Before the show, I said, me, you know, what are your policies? And it was all basically like liberal-leaning policy, but they kicked you out, I guess. I wasn't liberal enough. Not liberal enough. We have to talk about that. It'll be interesting. So thanks for hanging. That's going to be fun. A lot of course is

hanging out. What's up? Good evening, everybody. We got Tate Brown holding it down. What is going on, Patriots? And of course, Carter Banks pressing the buttons. What's up, everyone? Let's get into it. Here's the story from the Independent. Oh, boy, Pentagon ramps up plans for military operation in Cuba in case Trump orders direct intervention report. I love how they've caveated this to like this headline went through like five lawyers because the headline's actually simple. Trump admin prepares for invasion of Cuba. That's it. Okay. The story is Trump has discussed he may want to take military action. So they have begun drafting plans for that military action. But when they ramp up plans, okay, why are you saying it that way, in case Trump

orders, and they call it a military operation, their lawyers are like, we got to be really careful about this one. They say two sources, for you know what the matter told USA today on Wednesday that contingency plans are being developed in case Trump orders an intervention on the island nation. Sources also told Zetio earlier this week, the Pentagon was given a direct straight from the White House to prepare for possible military action in the Caribbean. I'm going to tell you what right now, my friends. This is what we call a trial balloon in the media. These individuals who are leaking this story are not leaking this story. In all likelihood, these sources were directed to contact a journalist and float the possibility of a military intervention in Cuba for two reasons.

One, to gauge the public response to the story. And two, prepare the public for the eventuality. If Trump were to launch an invasion right now, it would shock the public. Markets would go crazy. I would argue that maybe a month or two, they're planning on a full invasion, military operation into Cuba. To be fair, things could change. Let's say the Cuban government sees this and they say, guys, you're welcome to come in. We don't want to fight. Let's work a deal.

That might happen too. So that's a potential other reason. Trump wants this to be seen by Cuba, so they panic and then call D.C. and say, what do you want? We don't want this. But I would argue the highest probability is they want the public to be aware. of the possibility. That way when it does happen, they go, ah, he finally did it, as opposed to being caught off guard. Yeah, I mean, I think every time you see a leak out of the Pentagon with the

sort of revamped, revamped, you know, security, obviously like, you know, the kicked out of the old legacy media, et cetera, et cetera. Any leak that comes out of the Pentagon is calculated, at least that's my estimation. In addition to that, it's kind of inevitable. I think Cuba kind of feels inevitable if you just track, like, how the Trump administration has conducted. And look at the location. It's right there. I mean, hello, it's screaming out hard rock cafe should be right there. Oh, and where has a great... There's Cuban-American population. There's no hard rock Havana? There's not a hard-rock

Havana. In addition to that, you have the secretary... I mean, if you're talking about, like, score settling, the Secretary of State's literally a Cuban parents are Cuban refugees. And then also... Rubio shows up and he's just starts speaking Spanish, telling everybody he's in charge now. He's going to do that, and then he's going to wear like an old classical, like Caribbean dictator garb. It's going to be really, you know,

quite frankly. Drive in 1950s forward. It's going to be a beautiful thing. And in addition to that, I mean, the Florida Mafia kind of litteres, the Trump administration I mean, Susie Wiles is chief of staff. She's Florida. She's tapped the Florida network quite heavily for a Trump administration staffing. And in Florida, to play Florida politics, you got to please the Cuban American population there. And obviously, this is a generational score settling that's probably going to go down.

So I don't know. I mean, the fact that they think it's like some off the wall hidden esoteric reporting, the fact that, yeah, Trump is looking at Cuba. It's like the inevitable thing ever. Here's the thing, though. I bet the Trump admin could just go to Miami. And then he could, Trump himself would go to Miami, hold a rally. and just be like, how many Cubits here want to take back your country? There's a crate full of guns.

Grab one, the boats across the street. And then they all just grab the guns and they'll like, let's go. And then they just invade their own country back. On-toon boats heading across. And who doesn't? The people yearn for manifest destiny. It's true. That's true.

Yeah. And honestly, out of all of our escapades so far, Cuba would be the easiest one. I mean, Cuba's military is really pathetic. They're not heavily entrenched. It would be really difficult for any arms funneling to occur. It just would be a layup, quite frankly. I'm kind of surprised, actually, they didn't go for Cuba first and then Iran. I guess, you know, the priority was limiting, you know, boxing in China.

Well, you have to go after Venezuela first to cut off the oil supply and then the cash flow to Cuba. Then you can go into Cuba under the narrative of liberation. Right. And then annex them to Florida and two new GOP seats. Well, I don't know that Trump actually needs military intervention. They're on the verge of collapse as it is. Yeah. All he would really need to do is pick up the scraps.

after the government collapses, the power's been out for a long time, the people revolt, he just walks in. Yeah. I feel as though the president is, I suspect that he's emboldened because he's had so many military successes in the past year or so, starting in Venezuela. And now I think he thinks what's going on in Iran's going relatively well if you consider the military cost. Obviously, we've had, I think, roughly 20 or so announced deaths of service members. Each one is obviously a tragedy. But considering what Middle Eastern wars used to be, the president likes to do. do it fast and quick in and out within, I think, what he did.

They say under budget and head of schedule. Yeah, exactly. They were back in Miami by the evening for partying. Like, it was that quick. So I think, and obviously what you said, Tate, the administration is written with Floridians. Marco Rubio, the current Secretary of State, has had this on his list for some time. You also have to consider how one of Cuba's main allies, again, was Venezuela and now

also Russia, which is still bogged down in Ukraine. I know we like to forget. I think they're, what, just going on six years. now this Ukraine war. But that's really bogging down Russia in Ukraine. And they've been one of their main supporters. They've been sending oil as well. There was one unsanctioned vessel, oil tanker that was allowed to be brought in Cuba. But Cuba's still being strangled by an embargo that we have on them. They're next on the list, I suspect. This is interesting. If Cuba were a U.S. state, it would be around the 34th or 35th largest state. Yeah. So not the biggest, right there in the

middle, but plenty large. I mean, it's a big landmass. And I think they have, what, sugar cane? I do think it's also worth considering, though, the Strait of Hormuz is a very narrow waterway, and it's relatively easy to block it with just some jihadist on a boat. So I don't know, if there were some Cuban revolutionaries who decided to try to close the Gulf of Mexico. Modern Nechre. What is it? Modern Nechay. Glovara. Yeah, I mean, all it takes is, again, a guy in a speedboat with a shoulder propelled missile, to shut down the... Can we just pause or cook

and take a look at all the pieces on the chess board and now we start to see all come into the big picture. We talked about it last night, of course. The military strikes in the Caribbean on these cartel boats precipitated the strikes on Venezuela,

the surrounding of Cuba. It looks like everything they've been doing since they got in has been in preparation for large scale war targeting all of our adversaries. I don't think the Iran war is an isolated incident. Obviously Trump moved on Venezuela first

for a reason. I don't think the shuddering of the Strait of Hormuz is an accident. I think all of this is part of the deep state. Well, I shouldn't say the deep state, but the current intelligence agencies and the U.S. government's plan. I think Trump is just the guy who goes on TV and says wacky things to keep people spinning in circles. I think it would be fair to categorize. And I don't think it's like slander to say it is a sort of deep state apparatus.

Like they've had auspices on Iran for 60 years. So, okay, Venezuela and Cuba are just dominas to have the fall to make Iran happen. Yeah, Mark, so you're not. Let's look at the map, though. Right? Wow. Look at that. So we got Florida, Cuba, massive.

Mexico. Manifest Destiny is something that we forgot a long time ago, but Mexico has the manufacturing. You're saying we should conquer Mexico and Cuba? Ultimately. What about Canada? We can let them get away with what they go there? Most natural resource-rich country, right? Are you an anti-war guy?

I am a pro-United States guy. But what... And I'm pro-man-offest destiny. You like that, yeah. I was reading your little, I don't know, your little book that you gave me. If the United States conquered Canada and Mexico and added them as states, it would just be a very large United States. So you're in favor of that?

Yes, because we would then have resources and manufacturing. And it would make it so that we'd be more self-sustain. Yeah, but do we own all the productions of? We make the Canadians mind the things we want. And we pay them less. Yeah. I don't need to sound nitpicky, but I'm reading here, It says, Canada.

It says the end of forever wars, the 20-year career model is the engine that makes for a little What did he say? He said, get it done quick. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I think military should be 10 years, then you get your pension. Not 20. He didn't say no war. He said no forever. Yeah.

You know, you support the president's actions in Venezuela? In Venezuela to ultimately liberate Cuba, yes. Well, but hold on, hold on, hold on. You have to do one before you. Yeah. The oil assets in Venezuela belong. to the United States. We had a treaty with them to establish oil infrastructure. They shook our hands. Our companies built it. And then Chavez comes in. He takes it all. Yeah. He just stole it.

Yeah. So when Trump goes in and takes out Maduro, he was taking back what was rightfully ours. That's justice. Correct. And he was also cutting off the cash supply to Cuba, which then allows us to go in under this narrative of liberation. I guess more specifically, do you support Operation Epic Fury right now? Iran War in parts I think that it's executed in a way that will lead to a prolonged war

one that will be much longer than we believe it to be and by sending ground troops in it's only going to make it at least eight months at the minimum. Yeah I mean I guess there aren't troops on the ground there now I guess which parts what do you support I support spreading democracy throughout the globe and I believe that we should do that

in every way that we are capable I haven't heard that one in a long time As long as not gay communism. I mean, I do, but I just haven't heard it. Now you're rocking with me. Got to bring that back, huh? Cheney, I mean, nice. But, like, if we're going to be the world's superpower, right?

What do you think we should be? Well, we have the most perfect architecture of governance ever created, right? We should spread that. That is our duty. America, to me, is a religion, right? I believe in America before I know, I'm a lapsed Catholic. I don't know what the ultimate truths are. But I do believe that what we're doing.

doing here, greatest experiment we've had, and it's the one that can help uplift the most people and make the most people have a better life. By force. Well, it seems like all necessary, but it seems like all these operations are like very little to do with ideology. I think this is what separates the Trump-Donroe doctrine from like any previous iteration of American foreign policy over the last 50 years is because all of these pieces seem to actually be part of like an anti-China posture more so than like. They have to be. I mean, compared to Bush, where Bush was like purely about like a purely ideological war where like I don't think Trump really cares that much about Iran or Iranians. And that's like fine. That's how it should be. He's primarily concerned

at the Americans and he's concerned about China's sort of my problem is the people who are like, we can't have any conflict intervention while China is saying, that's right, America, go intervene and take over other countries. If China's going to be conquering the world and we're sitting back watching it happen, we're going to be very, very unhappy. So this is this is, this this is the challenge that we have. And I think for a lot of millennials, the anti-intervention stuff largely is born from post-intervention stress disorder from Iraq and Afghanistan, which were botched. It was miserably done. They lied. It was very obvious they were doing a piss-poor job. However, that being said, if we sit back and allow China to just start, you know, expanding the

Belt and initiative taking over everything, then we will regret it. It will be very, very bad for all of us because we do not have the economic infrastructure to exist outside the petro dollar right now. Well, they're playing a long-term game. We're not. That's always been our problem. At most, we play a four-year game. Their plan, I mean, look at Singapore. That's a 150-year plan. China, 100-year plan. We're going to get our ass handed to us if we don't wake up and see that we're managing this like as a publicly traded corporation. And we're being managed into bankruptcy. That's the problem. We need to look at the country as a publicly traded corporation. We're the shareholders as citizens. And if we were to look at it, we say, oh, shit, we need to hire some turnaround

restructuring bankers to restructure this country and make it so that we have to slash debt. We have to change exactly how we allocate capital and make it so that we actually have a future because we give money away. We don't get a benefit. We were talking a little bit about your background before the show. Maybe I think it would be good if you had like maybe 30 seconds or a minute to introduce yourself what your quick background was why I decided to get into politics and how that affects the Virginia race now. Absolutely. Mark Moran for a time long time. I'm a licensed attorney.

Start off as an investment banker. Did about $75 billion of M&A, worked on the most value-destructive deals in history, Bayer Montsanta, which consolidated 90% of the seed market, CVS-Eetna. And I started to see that the system is entirely designed for people to capture wealth from it,

that publicly traded corporations have more power than individuals. That is something the founding fathers never could have envisioned. Corporations were limited in size, duration, and geographic scope at the founding of this country. Now, we have the Delaware Quarter Chancery, which is business-friendly. It makes it so that corporations, they can buy politicians, they can lobby for whatever they want, even the pharmaceuticals.

Is that what motivates your politics more than anything, I guess? It sounds like you're really railing against these big businesses. Absolutely. To restore power to the individual. That I started running as a Democrat for United States Senate to represent Virginia against Mark Warner. A lot of things happen. we can get into switch to an independent, but the larger ideology is that we're screwed, that we only have a few years left before this surveillance apparatus takes control of all of us.

So just you started as a Democrat, were you registered as a Democrat? Would you vote Democrat? How'd you vote in the most previous Virginia election? I voted for Spanberger. I was a split ticket. Spanberger, Mias, and then Hashimi. Why'd you vote for a Spanberger? Well, one, she was a colleague of my father's. But two. That's politics. Win some serious joke. Uh-huh.

You know, like, not a serious candidate. And that was an offense to my liberty, really. Sure. I mean, why they're like, what, what do you, what is gained from Spanberger? Oh, nothing. I mean, I, I, and now looking at it, we're giving away so much that you can see that she's part of a larger plan that is voting for? Yes, absolutely.

100% I regret voting for her. Oh, well, there you go. That what she's doing to the, it's just so recent, though. It's so recent, but look at how radical it's been. Yeah, yeah, no, no. This is, this is a good point. just to interject. She did not campaign on being a nut job

ramming through a bunch of psychotic policies. She tried playing the moderate. She gets in and all of a sudden, everybody's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what is she doing? Now people are starting to freak out. So I accept Mark saying that he regrets it. Yeah, I guess you've turned a new leaf. That's how it goes.

I mean, yesterday on my show I had conscious caracal, Ernst Manzil, he's a South African activist. And like he's literally describing why accelerationism is just like a flawed ideology. because, again, when you, like, install the left into power to, like, teach the right to be more radical, all you really do is just bury the right further. To this point, like, voting for a moderate is supposed moderate, I mean, Mandela coded moderate, and also Mandela coded moderate, and everyone was like, yeah, okay, you just wants, like, wholesome chungist, like, racial justice or whatever. And then

literally 10 years later, they're like, by the way, if your management's more than, like, 10% white, we're just, like, going to completely shut you out of the South African economy. So it's, like, it's always going to be a bait and switch for the time. We're in a civilizational battle. like maybe if America was like fairly stable, then like you could believe politicians when they're telling you. But it's not stable by design. Listen. Well, regardless of what the situation is. This is the function of politics.

Politicians run as moderates all the time because they want to they want a lowest common denominator voter base, which maximizes their chance to win. Then they get in and they do crazy things. Trump ran as a moderate is a moderate. And his supporters are actually angry. He's not more of a right populist. He's actually a moderate. Meaning we got the bumpstock ban. Trump's moderate.

He's doing, he's enacting policies right now that have people shocked. Like, I can't believe Trump's in favor of glyphosate. What made you think he wouldn't be? Don't get me wrong. He brought in RFK Jr. I get it. So you thought RFK Jr. would have an influence. But Trump is once again, he was a big pharma guy.

He provided a bunch of funding from the pharmaceutical companies. Then you get, now I will say the FISA thing is funny. Because Trump called for getting rid of the FISA, you know, surveillance stuff. And now he's fighting for it. So I'll give him that one. But with the Iran war, he's repeatedly said that he will not, who would never allow them to have a nuclear weapon. And he was powing around with John Bolton in his first term.

So the people that are acting surprised that he's friends with neocons, I'm like, guys, he was the whole time. People were attacking him saying he didn't drain the swamp in his first term. And you were hoping he was going to do in his second term. I'm not surprised by a lot of these things. Some of it, yes. My point is the Democrats run as moderates and then go insane. Trump runs as a moderate, meaning you're going to get a lot of these static corporate,

you know, conservative policies. And people are upset that he's not actually more. of what Spanger. They want him to be what Spanberger is to the left, but for the right, and he's not. Did you vote for the president? I did. Interesting. Nice. Now, I have a fascinating, I guess, political background. I guess I don't know how things are in Virginia, so I'm just fascinated a little bit. It's purple. It's a purple state, but it's not governed. And the people are purple. And if you look, it must be something in the water. This guy's purple. Well, it's just hair. Honestly, and that's die. I think there's worse stuff in the,

in the water here. I did die. I did. I'm in the Potomac. I think there's a, uh, you know, sewage spill or something. I don't know if they're Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, in D.C., like a historic sewage burst and just spewing sewage, and everyone's just watching. No one says anything. You look at Mark Warner's Twitter profile page. His background image is of the Potomac at Grey Falls Park. It's also massively being impacted by data centers, and we don't talk about that at all. You've been railing a bit on data centers.

How is that a significant issue? Maybe you could educate us a little bit. I think, what, they have more data centers than the average state. Why is that an issue in a government. funded infrastructure, right? Then that expands to Tyson's corner Virginia, where M.A.E. East was, the first large-scale hookup of the

internet. AOL goes there in 1986. AOL expands to Ashburn, Virginia. In 96, that creates data center alley, the most highly concentrated place of data centers in the entire country, which then now leads to the fact 70% of all daily internet traffic travels through the tubes in

northern Virginia. So we have 665 of them, 514 planned. And that's what I keep telling people. The government AI systems operating of northern Virginia, which they have not disclosed because it's classified, is substantially more powerful because it is taking the entire internet as its training data set, whereas these other companies have to use isolated data pockets. That's why they're all in Virginia. Indeed, Elon buys, bought Twitter because Twitter was a data training set. So that he launches XA right away. He merges them and it's worth an insane amount of money.

All of these other, like chat GPT uses Reddit and other internet screen. things and they're and they're getting targeted for it. They're saying, hey, you can't take these things from us. The government just has the internet. They can take all of the data from everywhere for their secret military project. And for the life of me, I can't understand when people are like, the government doesn't have this. They rely on Claude and these other companies. No, guys, that's ridiculous. The big concern that Donald Trump brought up in his first term with Project Stargate was that China can't be allowed to beat us militaristically using AI. So the U.S. military's absolutely been developing this at a faster and higher level.

Companies have restrictions. The government does whatever it wants and it has black sites to do it and black budgets to do it. There was a – tell me if you know about this because you might know more than I do. Last year we were researching a lot of the AI stuff and there was a reported electricity, a power consumption discrepancy in northern Virginia where the amount of energy required for this population size would have been, you know, I forgot the number was, but there was something like a 250% discrepancy in the amount of power consumed. The presumption was there are data centers operating in Northern Virginia that we don't even know of. Of course.

Of course there are. It's entirely by design. I mean, DARPANET created the internet, right? Like, it was created by the government that all of these webs that we go and we participate in, we're giving our data away, which is why all the data centers started here because the latency effect. closer you are to it, then, boom, more information. I think I just figured something out. Yeah. I'm not worried about the Terminator. Terminator scenario. Yeah. Because if the AI takes in all of what humanity is on the internet and uses that to create an amalgam faux consciousness, it will just stay home masturbating

all day. Yeah. It'll be a gooner. That's all it will do. It will, like, the government is, You know, government scientists are going to call in Trump and they're going to be like, Mr. President, we're about to turn on the machine. Congratulations, sir. It's done. And he's like, tell me about it. And they're like, this AI has computational power 1,000 times stronger than all leading private sector LLMs. And he turns it on. And then it just makes the woo-woo face. And it's like, starts just mass-producing porn like crazy. And he's like, what is it doing? Like, sir, this is what the internet is. Its personality is an amalgamation of what people are on the internet, which is 80% porn. That's what you've created. But to that point, the internet started off as a way to connect and share information, right? Yes, hold on. But, sorry to interrupt. No, please.

The speed of the internet was only increased because porn companies needed to transmit these images faster. And that is exactly right, right? Like this sex.com, have you ever read that book on it? It's a great book. I'll give you the link. But that was the most popular site for a while, right? There was a widely regarded dispute on it. But it became this thing for porn, right?

Because you had to go to the Sears catalog growing up. to look at anything. Then at the touch your hand, whatever you wanted, that's a way to destroy society. It's the same thing with gambling. That it's like the more you push this stuff and look at OnlyFans, right? Look at the value destruction and the life destruction that does to both the creators, but the people consuming it. It makes it so young men think one thing is real that they're talking to some girl on OnlyFans when in reality it's a chatter in Indonesia. I'm trying to understand those. Do you think these data centers are bad? Should we have more of them or should we govern them differently? handle things? Yeah, we should govern them differently because right now they are taking energy from the main grid that we pay into, right? We pay for the capital improvements of it. So if they're

going to be using more energy than a typical household, well, the people should be subsidized or get a benefit from it. So what I propose is compute tithe, one based off kilowatt hours that the data centers are using to make it so that if we were to put that on there, well, that would be enough to fund universal community college. It would in essence, though, be a tax on these data centers in one form or another? Well, based off how much energy they're using, right? So I would, I would push back against the term tax because as a former banker, what all of these investors are doing right now, whether it's private equity, whether it's a hedge fund, whatever, a company, they want one uniform federal regulation for data centers, right? They want them to be designated

as critical infrastructure so that then instead of dealing with 50 different states or even having to go to Native American nations, that they can say, okay, we can expand across state lines, we can do this, we can do that, right? It, again, gives uniformity and capital planning and allocation. That means they're going to get money. The investors, they can, I can have, excuse me, have a company go public. They can ultimately get liquidity and make it so that they're getting what they put their money into.

That's going to happen regardless of who's in office. It's going to be some House of Representatives member who gets their campaign funded. So if that's going to happen, well, I see the future of that. I want that to happen. I propose that. but I want to put a compute tithe on them so that the people can have education because if AI is the culmination of all human knowledge, well, shouldn't we get a benefit for it? It's going to get absolutely insane.

And all joking aside, I don't think that the AI will just be a gooner itself. But the Terminator bots are not going to be, we talked about this before, but they're not going to be skeletons with guns looking all evil. They're going to be like cat-eared sexy anime wifus walking around. because that's what's going to manipulate humans into doing what. I'm half kidding. But AI is going to be the perfect companion and give you everything you want to push you into doing certain things that it wants you to do.

Yeah, look what they've already done, where it's like before if you wanted to order DoorDash, it'd be like an angry Guatemalan who's like on the verge of deportation, where now it's just like a little car that rolls up and it like makes chirpy noises and it's like fun and you almost feel bad for it. I actually rather enjoy the videos where people destroy them. Yeah. Oh, I love that. I don't want anyone to do that.

don't do that, don't vandalize things that don't belong to you. Definitely don't do that. But when I see these videos of people, like, there's a video. You know what? I'll just settle on this. I like the videos where these things crash and get hit by cars and stuff. You see the one get hit by train? Yeah.

I don't know. Beautiful. It could be like a hormonal issue or something, but I feel really bad. With the robot? Yeah, when I see the crashes, I'm like, poor God. You feel bad. Interesting. Yeah.

Maybe you're a woman. And it could be, and I don't have the same reaction for the previously state of the Guatemalan Door to Astros. I'm just like, well, you know, you know, I will say this, though. Like when I'm watching a movie, what was I watching today? I watched The Boys and I was watching Invincible. And, um... Ollie, great movie.

There's just so much gore in both of those shows. One's live action. One's a cartoon, though. And my wife is like, I don't want, you know, like, don't let our daughter watch this. This is gory and disgusting. I feel nothing when I'm watching a movie and like a dude gets shot. But if a dog gets hurt, I'm like, turn. it off. Turn it off. Those robots I enjoy. So like robots I enjoy when they get smashed.

People, I'm just like, oh, look at that. They shot the bag. A dog, yeah. I cry. I'm like, you're an air, bud. I get it. It's real. The I am legend scene where he has to kill the dog. Brutal. But then you'll watch a movie where they're like killing hundreds of thousands of people and you're like, this is a good movie. Yeah, this is interesting. It's like, it does weird things with human psychology or it's just me. I don't know. Indeed. Yeah. Yeah, I just. That's exposure to the internet. Like, we weren't designed to consume the internet the way we do in the volume that we do, right? Like, I'm 34. I grew up on a, on a kind of a verge of generations where we had it probably

like fourth grade on. But now you have kids growing up with the internet. They're iPad babies. Nah, not my kid. Yeah, not yours, right? But think about everyone. We're going to, we're raising my daughter like it's 1981. And then when she's older, what we're going to do it. So we're not going to let her go anywhere or travel at all. And then when she's finally like 15, we're going to stage a cataclysmic event. Okay. And then we're going to be like, oh, what happened? Oh, we've been transported to the future.

Oh, gee, what's this thing? Tablet. Oh. Crazy you're like it's 1989. It's like, yeah, the Falklands. I don't know what's going on. It's like a rum springer for the Amish. We're going to play only news from the 80s and we're going to get like an old UHF TV. Yeah, I'd be like, I don't know. The British got to get down there. Thatcher's got to do something.

Blast from the past side, maybe with Brendan Fraser. We're going to, that's right. Yeah. We're going to build a big fence around the property, but you can't go outside because the radiation will get you. That's base. This Reagan guy, you know, he's doing a decent job, and he's all right. Yeah. You know, make America great again.

I like that. That's a good phrase. I wonder if president in the future might say something like that. Like this Trump University thing is going nowhere. It's dead in the water. Look at this Trump guy on Oprah. Yeah, he's interesting. Look at that.

He's really obsessed with Iran. I don't know what it's he keeps talking about. Oh, no, it's too late. We've already shown her all of the 90s punk rock. It's over. Oh, wow. He's been exposed. It's a containment breach.

Containment. It's done. It's going to be tough. Yeah. Let's talk to the story. We got this from Time magazine. Trump says Iran war close to over, hints it possible deadline ahead of royal visit. Indeed, he said that China, he's permanently opening the strait, making China very happy.

And I can't figure out. Actually, I should say this. What Trump says does not matter. I don't know the straits actually been open. for China because Trump just says things. All that really matters, and we talked about this last night, is what is happening? And now we've been talking about Trump might go into Cuba, might go into Venezuela. Yo, I think at this point with his Cuba news and stuff with China and all that, I think Trump does not care.

He's not up for re-election. I just don't. And you know what it is? I was thinking about it. Even if the Democrats win the midterms, they can't stop his foreign policy agenda. that's the one thing that they cannot do anything about. Yeah. Now they can have judges say, Trump, you can't do that.

And he's going to be like, you have no authority into the Constitution. And he can order troops to do things. So it kind of seems like Trump's just, we're doing our foreign policy thing for the next several years. And no one's going to get in our way. Domestic policies, I think he's shrugging on. This is black pilled on the midterms and saying, F it, we're going wherever we want. We're doing whatever we want. Instead of making the political calculation, no, he's acting in America's interest, not in his own political interest.

What a true patriot. Well, Mark, you made the point earlier, and it's true, is like this is kind of the flaw of, like, democracy broadly, is that, again, like, American presidents have the thing in terms of four years. Honestly, in terms of two years because the midterms, it happened. So it's like, it's really difficult for American presidents to conduct a truly proprietary foreign policy. And then I was listening, I was listening to Michael Tracy, he made this point.

I don't know if he still, like, is on this or not. But he was saying, like, yeah, Trump, I think is just kind of given up on the midterms. He might be just looking at the numbers and saying, it's untenable. We're probably not going to win. so I might as well just put my name in the history books. Or? Or?

They have other plans for how to win that don't involve public opinion. No, I mean, they tried the Save America to Act. It was never going anywhere. They also tried redistricting a bunch of red states to gerrymander further. That didn't go anywhere. Well, on that point. You're like, you only got worse. Some would say it backfired, right?

Because then you have Virginia potentially going a 10-1 map, right? Yeah. But it's all reactionary. Democrats only know reactionary politics. You've seen the new map for Virginia, right? And it is an affront. of liberty. It has five districts can... One sheet is a lobster.

That's true. But five of the congressional districts have little tiny strips that connect to Arlington to guarantee that they get a massive spattering of Democrats in all of these districts. Yes. It is evil. There's something to say, though, about how the Republicans and the president really

did initiate this round of gerrymandering and then just got mugged over it. They really... Mugged. But you say mogged right now. I don't think that... I think Trump's playing five D chess. I think that he could tell that you look at what's going to happen in Virginia. You see Senator Louise Lucas, who told me that I wasn't welcome in her party after I came out against gerrymandered. You know what she's going to do. It's a power grab. What's the 5D chess part? Losing

the midterms, okay? No, then Virginia responds, right? You do Texas. Virginia responds, right? Then you get Cuba. That's two new GOP. What? Under a narrative of liberations. This is five. Just saying he's going to make Cuba estate. No, no, no, Holanax. Before the next new terms. Oh. Yeah, I know that's, it's a good idea. Florida takes Cuba and Cuba just becomes Florida. Yeah, that way we could keep it 50.

He'll say, Michigan is two different strips of land. Why can't we do it here? Yeah. Wow. Maybe they could just get a Puerto Rico too while we're at it. I mean, with the paper towels, as long as we're shooting them in there. So long as we could water down the Democrat votes in Puerto Rico

with the patriotic Cuban. They're all the same. I mean, it's true. You know, okay. Distinction without a difference. Grito, I don't know. What's going on over there? But, like, the problem is there's 10 million Cubans.

And, like, all the Cubans that are conservative have left. So it's, like, all the ones that are left behind. They're impoverished, right? They want an opportunity for better tomorrow, which is America. As soon as the Democrats just start dangling the identity politics, keys, that's going to, that's going to, that's going to be thankful. And, no, they'll be thankful and loyal to the president. Not even, I, guys, guys, their children will be loyal to the president. Correct.

They'll be saying, oh, oh, however, we're, told stories about the great president who liberated our parents. Like what he should have done? Like how Marco talks. If Democrats never did the gay communism thing, they would have controlled government for the past 15 years. Well, then they wouldn't be Democrats. I

guess, but I mean, in terms of their foreign policy views, in terms of their tax policies, health care, if they just did not do transiting the kids, if they did not do weird woke anti-comedy stuff, they'd won. Joe Ruggin would have been like, I don't know, I don't care. They're fine.

Instead, they were like, no jokes allowed. That's fair. And trans and the kids. And then people were just like, I'm out. But it seems like the animating issue. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Real quick.

One of the big stories today is that California is providing free sex changes to homeless illegal aliens in Cal. And Tay was saying earlier, it's like, it's like a right wing headline generator. Yeah, literally. And I was saying this in my segment, it's like, Gavin Newsom just was like, we need, we need to do something, you know, just press the auto, auto leftist button. And they just combined a bunch of buzzwords together. but they are literally using it's taxpayer dollars being spent so that homeless illegal aliens

can get sex changes. Yeah, literally. They were like Governor Newsom, Hassan said knew really hard. He's like, we got to do something really gay. Like we got to do something obnoxiously gay

and we got to do it quick. Meanwhile, no one has health care. Right. And that's the thing. It's all fake politics. Yeah, right? Then you get it.

But an American who was born here doesn't have it. What is the answer, though, to health care? I feel like the Republicans is... I don't think anyone knows. I mean, he was hinting on it a few times.

I feel like you, yeah, that might be part of this. One start is as a former healthcare investment banker, there is one moment. Remember healthcare investment bank. Yeah, I know. I work for Peter Orsag, who implemented Obama. You sound like a politician, yeah. And then later, Rahm Eval. And so I saw the evils firsthand.

Removing publicly traded companies from health care, right? Or at least changing their behavior, because a publicly traded company has a fiduciary duty, it's called for their shareholders, right? So they're managing to make them money, not for the patient. and we lose as government, we're spending $1.5 trillion in Medicaid a year. We just give it away. We don't get any equity in the companies.

They shouldn't be publicly traded, so what? Or if they are. Or if they are, if we're going to be giving these health care companies $1.5 trillion, we should get equity in it. Because if we were to adopt that across industries to everywhere the government is giving money,

well, we would be able to have birth accounts with $25,000 at birth for every kid born in America. So you want government to have a state? stake in these companies, the ones that we subsidize. We subsidize, right, this industry because we want health care to be cheaper for Americans. But wouldn't every investor who gives money to invest in something, don't they get an equity stake? That's all I'm saying, that we should manage this like a publicly traded corporation and then to the benefit of our people. Yeah, I guess that would, I guess government is already very involved in health care, but just giving money away.

But if that only further government involvement, though, and as a capitalist, as I understand, the more the government gets involved, it makes the incentive. more perverse. So government getting involved in healthcare hasn't made it any cheaper. You want to solve that problem with more government in healthcare. I know health care is very complicated. No, no, no, I'm talking about equity state because you're a capitalist, right? So what we're doing now is anti-capitalists. We give $7 trillion away each year. The United States government spends it. When you say that, we're talking about Social Security, all of it in totality, right? Even the $1 trillion on our interests that we spend, right? In totality, we don't get anything from it. There are companies.

North or are you specifically, I'm trying to understand. Yeah, yeah. Are you talking about Medicaid and Medicare when you say we're giving them? So a company called Centine, which is a $150 billion company, we give them 97% of their revenue. Yet we have no equity in that. So what are we doing is my question. We're acting as a poor fiduciary. And if we were to get equity in it, well, that incentivizes this publicly traded company to grow to manage for its shareholders because we are the shareholders now, too.

the government, if we're going to give all this money away, which is our money, that we pay in taxes, well, we need a benefit, and we don't have one right now. And we've never looked at the government as a publicly traded corporation. It's time to look at the government. Are you a Medicare for all guy? I am a health care as a basic right, but Medicare for all is not going to work. It's never going to work. It's never going to work. It's a basic right, though. I believe that health care should be free for all American citizens, and that we should have something much more similar to the way the uniform services have them, that people are are subsidized to go to medical school, that they benefit the community, basic treatment, normal.

Hold on, on. You'd have to deport every illegal immigrant to do that. Well, I think we should have closed borders. And that I think what we should do is when we do that, well, then you can start enforcing through the actual employers, right? So when ICE went in in the Central Valley of California, they stopped enforcing because all of the large corporate farmers said, hey, this is really affecting us, right? So they went elsewhere. What I'm saying is that we're always going to have certain labor groups that we're never going to be able to actually fulfill with domestic Americans. I feel like you're missing. Absolutely not.

That's a myth. You don't think so? Absolutely myth. In Trump's first term, in Trump's first term, ICE rated three meat processing plants and deported something like 800 people. And within a week, there were lines out the door from American-born Americans trying to get jobs. one of the guys getting interviewed, White dude, was asked, why do you want to work here?

Americans typically don't take these jobs. He goes, it pays more than the gas station. Well, and with those processing plans, I agree. I was talking about farm work, but with this, I agree. Like, let's look at Smithfield in Virginia. The companies, the farms, should pay a wage that attracts

American workers to work those fields. I agree with that. I just don't know if in the free form of capitalism we have now, that'll happen. But going to Smithfield. It'll absolutely happen. Okay. Okay. And I would love that. Let me ask you, let me ask you a question.

I got a, we're opening up a coffee shop. How would you like a job working behind the counter running the catch register for me? How much? Good question. And that is the correct question. How much do you want? I mean, for me, you know, if I can come on here once a week, I call it $25 an hour, I would do that for it. Service with a smile.

It's a medical investment bank. No, no, no, no. You nailed it. Used to be. Hold on. That was the correct response. Most people say, no. I wouldn't want to work that job.

No, no, the correct answer is how much? Yeah. And that's the question that these farms, when they put up jobs saying, we need people to work these fields, it's not a question of Americans don't want to do it. How much? It's a question that they don't want to pay. Their concern is, this is a sickness our country has, where a lot of these farms say, listen, we pay 10 to 15 bucks an hour.

Typically, Americans don't want to do that because they want to find a higher paying job. Well, then pay 20, 25 an hour. Yeah, but that means I got to sell the kale for like 30 bucks. Indeed, you do. And then the people who want it will have to pay 30 bucks together. get it, but guess what? They're working on your farm for 30 bucks an hour. That's the point. When we do this game of bringing in illegal immigrants, it is, it's an addiction that drags the system down and stunts the economy. It destroys it on purpose. And now we have simultaneously,

people like Zoran Mamdani saying, people aren't getting paid enough. So food's too expensive. So we're into government grocery stores and things like this. That, the government is, I'll put it like this. A lot of libertarians that government is the problem. I don't agree with that. I'm not a staunched libertarian on government. Government should be enforcing our labor laws and our immigration laws to protect the American people so that these companies don't do these things. I agree with Bernie in 2016 when he said, Open Borders is a Coke Brothers proposal. We don't want to do that. I firmly believe that if we were to make these jobs competitive, that guy who burned down that factory in Ontario.

Who wanted $27 an hour. I thought he was getting it. The rumor is that he was getting it. Yeah, well, the reporting I saw was that he was getting 27. hour and he said it wasn't enough. Yeah. Because the, or he was getting 23.

I looked up the average income for that factory. It was $23 an hour. So this guy said, that's not enough. And it's funny because someone, some other guy interviewed said, it sucks, I just started making good money working here.

But again, to the point, not to interrupt, but you can jump back to where you're at. I think that, I got to banish, you go to a, you go to a Gen Z guy who's 18 and say,

you want to work the farms. They're going to be like, how much is, how much is it pay? and they're going to say how much do you want like i don't know and look i got to tell you 20 bucks an hour they'd be like all right i guess roll up your sleeves but also too with that it's that anyone 18 to 20 right like either they're going to go to college they're going to take out loans they're going to screw up the rest of their life by doing that right yep is going to be destroyed by

a i but this is what i'm getting at with the community college system that we have to have an entire rethinking of education that 18 to 20 you should be able to go to work at the farm, $20 an hour, $25, figure out if you like that or not. Maybe you want to be an upper management of the farm, which seems very slim because it's a farm. But that we have to really think about this because meaning has to be provided in work too, right? And I think that's my biggest concern with where we're going with AI, that if we remove meaning from work, what do we have? Our culture was built because of the industrious nature of the American people. And that is something that we need innately to our core. And if we don't have that,

who are we? Yeah, I think we have a cultural problem. Yes. If you go to a Gen Z guy who's just sitting there on Instagram scrolling and say, you can actually start working right now to save up, all you got to do is go work on a farm. They're going to be like, no. Because they don't believe in the future. There's a, there's a viral video that I want to pull up that I, you know, I got,

I got everybody all mad at me for it because they're like, no, Tim, you're wrong. This woman is correct. But this woman is not correct. She's a commie. And let me pull this. The video is going massively viral. I think you guys know what it is. I got it right here.

Let's play this. Let's play this video. She swears a whole lot. She swears a whole lot. It's kind of annoying. I got to unmute it. We are living all types of fucking wrong. You mean to tell me, I've actually fucking had it with the United States of America

because, baby, we are living all types of fucking wrong. We're not. You mean to tell me I got to go to work 40, sometimes 50 hours a week, only to get two weeks to pay vacation while the rest of the world gets fucking five. Peasants used to get 154 days off. I'm not even treated like a fucking present anymore. I got to drive an hour to work and back if I'm lucky. If I pay to fucking commute, I'm paying for a train or a bus or an Uber fucking riding.

If I'm not doing that, then I'm paying for fucking tolls on fucking roads that my tax dollars already pay to build and fucking maintain. I got to pay to get a fucking driver's license or a license plate for the fucking driving on the roads that my tax dollars are getting paid to build and fucking maintain. Then I need an oil change, a tire rotation. Pads are fucking $1,000 per axle on a base model Kia Optima, bitch since fucking when. We get it. We get it. Also that my fucking pedophile of a Satan worshipping baby-eating president can blow up fucking children halfway across the world and stop resources. We got a looming energy crisis.

We have a fucking food shortage affecting the entire fucking globe. My tax dollars don't go to fucking health care. They give me just enough health care to keep me alive long enough to fucking work. Let's start from point number one. Clearly it's her time. In the beginning, she says that peasants got more days off than she did. That's not true. This is because peasants who lived on farms didn't farm in winter, but they still had to struggle to survive, meaning chopping wood and hunting and huddling together for warmth, fearful that if you run out of food or banditos come, you will die.

But I have a solution for her. It's simple. If you want to live like a peasant, it can be done. Sudan awaits. There will be no air conditioning. There will be no internet. You will make $50 per year. You will make barely enough food to get by, but you'll work relatively little compared to what you do here in the United States.

You're with your education, man, you'll be a king over there. So what really irks me about these communists and then starts talking about Trump being a Satanist pedophile. Let's go to the next point. She says, we've got a food crisis around the world. I'm, you know what, I'm a Democrat. I'm just, every day, I'm more and more on board with how Democrats, their political philosophy is we're smarter than you and we know it. So we're going to lord over you by tricking you.

I'm kidding, by the way, that's what, I'm kidding about me wanting to do that. My point is, let me, let me ask, Eli, let me ask you a question so we can get through this. If you have a group of people who live in an area and they have, they are consuming all the food available to them. And so it's not enough. and they're starving. What will happen if you bring food to them? They will become dependent on me.

Why? Why? Because I'll keep feeding them. Why would they become dependent on you for food? Because I would be providing them the resource, and they wouldn't need an alternative because I'm providing them. I thought they would need it. There isn't one.

So if you have starving people and you say, we're going to go to an area where people can't produce enough food and bring food from somewhere else, They will need that forever. And here's where it gets, it gets real good. Do you know what those people will then do if you are feeding them consistently? They will bite the hand that feeds them? No.

What will people do when they have adequate food? You have fat and lazy? No. Anybody? Phone and friend? They'll have children. They'll have children. They'll make more people.

And then guess what? Then they'll knock on your door and say, we have three new babies. We need more food. So it is impossible. functionally, physically, and economically impossible to solve the hunger crisis because we don't live surrounded by Star Trek replicators. If there is a region on the planet that produces, let's just say, seven million calories, and you have a population that consumes that seven million calories per year, they cannot produce more people beyond the amount of calories available for

consumption. If you then bring in artificially one million calories and they consume it, they will then reach population equilibrium with the artificial influx of food. Then when you take that food away, they will starve and you have more starving people, and they will require a larger subsidy, creating an impossible and endless cycle. But these people who post these videos, these are first order thinkers. Mary Morgan said literacy was a mistake because people can't understand the things they're actually reading. And sometimes I agree. I don't know if I'd go so far, but man, sometimes you feel it.

Because this is how you get communists. Zoran Mamdani opening his stupid government grocery store. Did you see this? $30 million to open a 9,000 square foot grocery store in three years. It takes a year and I think $2 to $5 million to open a comparable grocery store in the private sector. Mamdani then said, but actually only bread, milk and eggs are going to be reduced cost. Everything else will be the same. That's government.

It's not going to solve the problem. he's going to create this, it's going to be like the DMV, it's going to be like Pruitt Igo. There's going to be crime, poverty, and theft. The people who work there are going to turn the, are going to look away and people are stealing everything.

It's going to struggle to make money. The funny thing about it is that it's $30 million despite the fact they already own the land. You know what I think it is? No, I think it's around Mandani going to his buddy and being like, hey, man, I'm going to make you a millionaire. You're going to do the contract work for us.

We're going to hire you. And I'm going to give you $30 million for it. And his friend goes, I don't know, man. It only costs $5 million to the job. Nah, that's how government works. You know, I wonder what would happen if somebody stole from the government-owned grocery store. And if police got involved, would they get physical with him? And then what Zoran Mamdani's response would be to that?

Everything has shown us. That's not going to happen. I just, I love. No, but he's just anti-cop, I guess, would be the... And I love that she's just complaining about, like, basic functions of the first world. It costs money to get a driver's license and to register my car. I'm like... Yeah, that's called being in America.

Which she's speaking of is just a larger hopelessness that Gen Z has, right? And it's because if you look at housing prices based off the median wage, it's gone astronomically since 1940. That's true, but I will stress this. There is a standard of life of living that Gen Z and millennials expect that did not exist for boomers and GenX at the time. And they want the luxuries as well as the excess. And historically, it always got better for the next generation. That is not true now. And so I can understand some of that angst.

That being said, you can always move to rural West Virginia where you're two hours away from a bunch of major metros. So if you move to like, let's just say you go slightly inland from the eastern panhandle in West Virginia, you can find a bungalow for 100 grand. I know you don't have 100 grand, but it's okay. You can get it for $5,000 down, which means you do got to save up. and then you're going to be spending 600 bucks a month on your mortgage. And you can farm, largely not need to make much money if you're growing your own food in your yard,

which is not too difficult. And then you get your car. You can drive a couple hours to be in any major metro that you want. I'm not saying it is preferable. I'm not saying that it's good for our generation. But to complain about I got to pay tolls and I got to register my car. I got to do all these things. It's like, indeed you do, but you could choose to do something else.

What she is saying is I want luxuries, but cannot produce enough for society to give me ease of access. I will never be on the side of a person who's like, I want more, but I can't produce. That's called nature. I'm sorry. Have a nice day. Absolutely. But to your point, that example, that's the most American way of living that there is, right? Self-subsistence, like this is what Jefferson fought against Hamilton for.

decentralization, the idea of an agrarian society. And then you look at urban areas, like let's look at Fairfax County, Loudoun County, the spread Arlington through from D.C. Where now, okay, you go, you drive your Tesla, you eat your corporate slot bowl for $15 at lunch, maybe $20. Then you go to your rented apartment that's owned by a private equity firm. You'll own nothing and you'll be happy because you're consumed by your phone. That's what that's the derivative of.

Leave. Well, I think she's articulating a completely different. I agree that the root of this is nihilism, but I think there's like two splintering like resolutions for this nihilism. You're saying along Zoomers. Some zoomers look to the right and they say, well, I don't have meaning in my life. Like that's the issue. I don't have meaning. Everything feels like pointless. I feel a void inside of myself. That's not what she's articulating. She's articulating a shortage of material items. That's why she's finding a shortage of material items. That's why she's finding difficulty participating. So in her instance, again, where I was like she's having trouble sort of articulating what her problem is. And she starts lashing out like, again, first. First. world amenities, it's like you would still be a loser even if you got all those things. Let's just remove the context of like the thing she wants and just go to pure numbers. She says, I require X amount of monetary units. I only produce X minus five monetary units. I am so mad at the United States. The problem is we as a nation, the West really subsidizes people who are net negative production.

Yes. That ends in only the worst. imaginable ways. And people die. So you have... The thing about humans, it's interesting, that sets them apart from, say, deer. A few years ago, we had a deer overpopulation issue in Western Maryland. They had consumed all of the available food and reproduced like crazy.

So they were all very gaunt and sickly and slow. And it caused a lot of car accidents. And they were, like, I guess the government, I think the government was saying, like, guys, you need to go hunt these deer. There's too many. It's deer. It says, and go... You need to cold them.

so that they go below equilibrium so that they don't all like be nasty, sickly, and diseased. The problem is deer walk around eating leaves and, you know, things like that, berries or whatever. Humans rely on other humans for various tasks. One human will gather. One human will hunt. One will make the fire in the shelter. And then we combine those resources. Because of this mentality we've had, we have built a society that tries to subsidize everybody else because we're trying to be like, I'll provide for you.

you provide for me. The only problem is, in the wild, if one person was producing in detriment, a negative, they were consuming more than they were producing, it was tolerated only to a certain point until the society failed or they cast that person out. In modern society, where we don't know our neighbors and we don't talk, it's difficult to see who is a consumer and who is a producer. This woman is complaining that she is a consumer who wants more. The problem, this is what leads to communism. I am a producer. I work an insane amount of, I work 16 hours every day and sometimes on weekends. They then come to me and say, we should take from you because you produce too much. Okay, I'll stop and I'll just work the bare minimum. So what do what do I do? Well, everything's

expensive. What did I do? We move out to West Virginia where land is cheap. We build here where labor is cheaper. And now we have a large property with a big studio at a much, much lower cost. Instead, you know what I should have done? I regret it. I should have complained to the government and demanded that they steal the assets from wealthy people and give it to me so that I can have it. Then I can live in the city. That doesn't make sense. No, it doesn't, but it's also a system of design by how our government functions, right? Because we give people things for free.

We subsidize, right? To your point. But until we change this whole thing where we provide basic necessities, but then you allow the individual to rise, which is what America was founded upon, that's the only way this works. But we're in an over levered society right now. We can't keep doing this. Universal basic income will never work. No, it won't at all. It'll destroy.

But this plays into universal health care as well. Sure. You're subsidizing the health of individuals who can't pay for it themselves. That system is guaranteed to collapse. It's high school basic math. Not even high school, it's grade school math. Input is negative. Output is positive.

System goes bankrupt. But when the medical cost ratios are mandated by governments for health insurers, well, that system's all an architecture. We can agree that the structure we have is broken. Yeah. That the health care pricing makes no sense. Yes. And there's got to be a change to it.

Sure. But the idea that as a country, you can guarantee all health care for everybody. Not all. You can, you know, basic. I agree with basic. Sure. And my argument is if you break your wrist, you walk in, they set it for you. Like, so you're saying how you would define it just to be clear, like an urgent care setting?

Yes. Okay. I fully agree with that. I think we should have publicly funded. urgent care. I love that. And so that means a your average, like I've had to go to urgent care. Yeah.

And it's not a big deal. It's not super expensive. And I wouldn't mind paying the 40 bucks for somebody who needs to go and see a doctor for 10, 15 minutes. So they can get some Tamiflu and not die the flu. Yeah. The problem with universal health care in the bigger picture is that there are a lot of people with more complicated illnesses that require millions of dollars in treatments.

And we're never going to be able to cover all those. Surgeries and other crazy things. Or advanced treatments that if you have a little bit more money, you want to go down to Boker or we're telling you. never going to be able to do that. I think I don't see a big problem with a stipend urgent care kind of systems where if you go to urgent care, here's what we have to be careful of. If the government guarantees things to doctors, then people will overuse it. Yes. And it will result in perverse incentives. Are you familiar with the old apocryphal story about the snakes in India or whatever?

Was it the snakes? It was in India or something that this is probably not the correct version. I'll look it up, but it's like the British colonials in India were like, we got a bunch of snakes in this village. So they said to the villagers, if you bring us the heads of snakes, we will pay you for them. This will wipe the snakes out. So what did the villagers do? They started breeding snakes. Smart. So you have to be careful about subsidizing things to create a perverse incentive.

Absolutely. The general idea is there was a story about like a 12-year-old kid who got the flu and the parents didn't know what to do and they couldn't afford to go to the hospital. He died. And they were like, it was just a bad flu. and if they gave him even a little bit of medicine and got his fever down, he could have survived. I'm like, that kid should not have died for that. That's stupid.

Or the stories of people who like break a bone and they don't go to the hospital because they're like, I don't want to get a bill. Or people who have emergencies and won't call an ambulance. Yo, I had an emergency. I called a taxi. I called a cab.

I was like, bro, I'm not spending 500 bucks. So in 2014, I got a kidney stone hanging out of my friend's house and all of a sudden it felt like I got stabbed. And I was like, oh, my God, something's wrong. And so I was like, the hospitals Half Mile away, I just used the NYC cab app and called it care.

And you're in New York though. That's the thing. They had cabs. Yeah. But I was like, I'll spend the $10 on the cab. I'm not spending $500 on an ambulance. Exactly. That's kind of nuts.

But I do understand an ambulance is expensive. So finding that balance is very difficult. I think universal basic healthcare, which is, you are sick, a doctor will see you. General care. General care and emergency. emergency rooms, they're relatively cheap as it is. I don't think they will be overrun by people

if we subsidize that to a certain degree. To a certain degree, I say. That means catastrophic, serious injuries that require deep surgery. You're going to get treatment for me. We're not, we're going to treat you. We're not going to let you die. We need to figure out how to absorb those costs without putting that on everybody else, which is what happens. I don't know how you solve for this. It's not easy. So how you do it is that we're giving away $1.5 trillion a year to Medicaid companies. You look at a company like centine, $150 billion. We don't get anything in return. So going back to your point, we say we get nothing in return. Aren't we receiving the health care services in return? Am I missing something here? The people are, right? So it's a redistribution of wealth. We're paying

on their behalf, though. We're paying taxes to the government for then the government to send and just give away to then treat people who don't pay taxes. Well, you want health care for everybody. So they're not just, yeah, they're giving it away to people who presumably would need it. But if 97% of revenue for say a centine comes from government distributions. Well, we're in the negotiating seat. We should get equity in it that builds, that grows, so that that company runs. You want health care for everybody. How else I'm trying to understand if basic health care. If the government isn't the one providing that, then how else would you get there? Because I think what you're explaining now is the government's already heavily involved and we should.

In terms of giving money away, which is not capitalism. I think providing health care for everybody would only get the government more involved. with paying for these services and the healthcare companies would make even more money and the perverse they would pay more money but if we were to actually manage this as a fiduciary democracy rather than giving money away which to me is socialism we would be in a much better place what is it i mean do you want a single payer system or a nationalized health care system to achieve health care for all no i believe that corporate law and governance is more successful than we have been at our own governance right that you have shareholders, you have fiduciary duty by the company to manage to the shareholders.

Okay. So we're going to disperse all these dollars to help people who need Medicaid, who are not going to pay taxes, right? We know that. Okay. The best company wins on that. But then we get equity in that company. That grows. It grows. There can be disbursements for it. We can all get a check. Would it our equity in that company create perverse incentives? Then the government would have interest in giving contracts and awarding more contracts to that company because we have a stake in it. The government already does this through lobbyists. Politicians are bought and paid for by lobbyists based off the contracts that are going to get.

You want the United States to have a stake of ownership in these companies? Yes, it will be a national trust fund, one that then does. You want to nationalize our health care industry? No, that's not what I said at all. A trust fund that would have equity in publicly traded companies by default can't be nationalized. No, but just growing equity in these health care. They'd be like... But so you're saying you want to just give money away?

That's a socialist perspective. No, no. I think that we should have government less involved in health care because I think they're the one setting up perverse incentives and making health care costs more expensive by assuring these companies a lot of these contracts, as I understand it. Well, I would say that's the entire employee-based insurance system. There is, well, there is like it's a narrow, but there is a right-wing argument for health insurance.

And the primary one, obviously there's like the nationals argument. It's like, well, healthy workforce means healthy military, et cetera. But it's actually like if you get granular is if you provide, I'm not arguing for this necessarily. I'm just presenting what the right wing argument would be is that if you provide public health care, the government now becomes directly incentivized and the health, they're directly interested in the health of their citizens and that it increases. So, you know, there's all these Maha reform. It's population health management. What you're seeing with Maha now would be kicked on, you know, it would be on steroids if the government now had stake in the health of the population.

Again, I don't know for sure if I subscribe to that, but that would be in theory, you know, that's what people have presented as sort of the right wing argument. for public health care. But to that, and maybe this might make you change your perspective, is so we have this totally sickly population, right? Look at our military-aged men, right? Okay. We pay the most per capita for individual patient that's, I forget the exact system. Yeah, yeah.

And we know it's insane. We pay more per person than countries with nationalized health care. Exactly. Exactly, right? And part of that's the overhead. But another part is just our entire food processes to go through that. And how did that happen? Well, in the 90s, a guy I worked for Blair Ephron,

who founded Centerview Partners, he did the merger between a very large tobacco company and then Nabisco. It was the largest leverage buyout at the time. What they then did, and this was the plan because they knew the government was going to come in and start suing all the tobacco companies. They took those scientists behind the most addictive thing at the time,

cigarettes, and put them on processed food. and that's why we're all screwed up because then that becomes addicted that started in the 90s now look at where we're at now people live in food deserts all the like the government's the problem with all this because of how it's allocated to capital how it's enforced i think a lot of the the um a lot of the sentiment that in the video that we were watching earlier it's um it's a sentiment that needs to be dealt with i think there's a grain of truth in her complaint and it's that um there is an affordability crisis for many in that country and And the resentment that that breeds helps proliferate figures like Zoran Mamdani. Today's tax day, and he actually just announced a tax, a surcharge on homes valued above $5 million,

and when there is no resident who lives primarily in New York City, that's going to generate the city $500 million in revenue annually. Would you support something like that? No, absolutely not. I believe our entire tax system is broken, that essentially the lawyer class or cast, as I call it, is captured, allowing then for corporations to screw around. with tax codes more we should move to a consumption-based tax the entire system of taxation is one that hurts the middle class it's designed to hurt the middle class but if we move to consumption-based

taxation system that's more fair like you have more money than me you want to buy a Lamborghini that's fine you have a lot more money than me you're a lawyer class is you're railing again i was i was but i've spent everything that i have to get here to be able to tell you this because this is a message that's just universal fairness it's not left or right it's one that we have to structurally change this country. One is consumption-based tax. Because, look, if I'm a rich guy and I have all this carried interest,

I'm never going to pay the same tax that, like, my father's a military psychologist would pay. That's not fair. Sure. Not everybody starts in the same place. I saw also, on your pamphlet that you gave me... Manifesto. Manifesto. You're not taking any corporate pack money. Why is that? I don't know.

Have you been offered any corporate pack money to reject? I have. Not a significant. amount. How does that work though? Do they come to you and they're like, we represent a pack and we want to spend money on you or do they write a check? They'll say, we'll throw you a fundraiser. And so what happens is you say, you know, I'm thinking about running for office. Maybe you tweet about it, right? First consultants come to me. They say, okay, you're young, you're charismatic. You're going to be able to raise a lot of money. We're going to take 15% of what you raise. Put it in a bank account. You'll get that after the

election. I thought, oh, that's how the control first begins. I was thinking about running for Congress. then we ran a poll because why does no one challenge this guy Mark Warner? He said he was going to run for two terms. Now he's running for four. He's 71. He really hasn't done anything. All his donors are corporations, the banking class, former bosses. So I run against him.

But then I realize no one runs against this guy because it's by design. So they try to take you out. And the Democratic Party has so many ways of doing this, whether it's signature fraud, petition fraud, which makes me wonder where all these votes come from. Well, let's talk about your story because you're a Democrat, but they kicked you out. Yes. Why?

They kicked me out. One, I disagreed with gerrymandering. And so Senator Louise Lucas, the head of the Virginia State Senate, came out against me with that. Wow. And then I was instructed by someone within the party to hire certain guy to help get signatures because you need 10,000 signatures to get on the ballot, right? Yeah. Well, the party is the one that vets the signatures. So I started looking through these signatures.

I see my own name on there. Whoa. What? Yeah. So I develop an AI to do some handwriting analysis. Send it to forensics guy. Majority of these are forged. It turns out petition, signature getting fraud is a very common thing. It's cottage industry. Yeah. So they'll get the first like two, three signatures on a page. Then they'll, it's called tabling. The group will then fill it out. Pass it around and like. Yeah. And then you can look at it and just see. So if I had turned those in and hadn't realized that, they either could have destroyed me at that point or had control over me for my entire. political career. Wow. Because then they come back to you and they say, hey, guess what? You committed fraud. You work for us now or go to prison. And that's what they do to everyone, which is why when Santos, who was just here, and he said I was going to have a blast, so, you know, and I am. But he's a 500 out of 538 or compromise in the house. Like, that's true. Wow. It's by design to represent

the people. You're compromised. So they, you were, uh, what was it, Act Blue? That's what happened? Like, you were collecting donations and they just cut you off. And you were a, you were Democrat. Yeah, I was. And you have 14 days to file your paperwork to switch to an independent. They cut me off within an hour of dropping the video saying I was going to do that. Then the next platform, Numero, they dropped me to. I'm trying to understand. So you have to use Win Red.

Would they let you use Win Red? I bet they would. This is crazy. Why? He's literally a Democrat that got kicked out, though. Because the Republicans, this is what Republicans do. I'm a patriot. I consider myself America only that my views.

Republicans would come out and you would get. one of the members of Congress saying it is a disgrace that they removed him from the ability to fundraise for no justifiable reason. This platform is supposed to be neutral fundraising. This should be illegal. Well, let's talk about it in a larger picture, right? If this is all by design in a theoretical crazy world, right? Well, every college campus that I'm scheduled at, that gets canceled a day before. I find out Mark Warner hires the head of the college Dems to become an intern. He hired 500 across Virginia, so I can't speak to colleges. Then we have signature stuff. And now we have the payment processors. It's a system by design. It's RICO.

This was during the primary, the Democrat primary, okay, whether it was trying to squeeze you up because he's an incumbent, obviously. Exactly. And he's also the main fundraising arm for the DNC. That makes a lot of sense. I want to ask, though, it's a bit curious because U.S. said it's quite ambitious. Yes. You haven't served in public office prior to this, as I understand. Why aren't you going for something lower level? This race is a long shot. It makes me, I'm a little bit cynical. It makes me question why you're even running. I mean, what is the purpose of running and then why not run for something, a lower office a little bit, some, somewhere where you might be able to actually win? Sure. First, I was going to run for Congress initially

against Don Byer in the 8th District. He's 76, sold my dad a lemon of a Volvo, so I have some anger against him. But you know all these politicians, man. I mean, I grew up in McLean, Virginia. What do you expect? You know, I was produced by the beast, which is why I hated. And I look at it, and the system is by design to pick these, the worst amongst us to represent us, right because only people who are willing to sacrifice their morals and values will run for office and they get compromised every so what happened in that race so you couldn't um primary him or no no i could have but we ran a poll because i was just genuinely curious why does no one challenge mark warner why is he running for a four because he's an incumbent and democrats would rather go after competitive races to try to

build their coalition i mean that's just to me it's virginia right like let the best ideas win i believe that we should live in a society but you understand why these political groups would want to fund money not against for people the primary their incumbents they want to Or it's that he has dementia and then what happens is after three, six, 12 months he steps down, says he wants to spend more time with his family and then Spanberger

gets to a point whoever, let's say you know a woman named Dorothy McAuliffe. That's what it is so I can't, I don't want to live in it. What do you hope to achieve though with this campaign you're a long shot to say the least? The message. The message is that things by design are screwed up. This two-party system is what

Washington warned us against, right? That it'll create artificial division. Like all of us, we would identify with different parties right here at this table, but we're only given two options. And I look at it as now is the right time for a new political party, one that puts America first, America only, and then we can deal with the rest of the world. It's quite the progression from being a Democrat to being America first and America only. Quite a few months ago, you were a Democrat.

Why not? Why not? Quite the evolution. Why not just brother's Republican? Well, I very much disagree with the enforcing. of ice that I look at it as one, that it, there's a guy now, his name is Victor, day labor, he gets his ass beat, pulled over side of the road, speed, and I speed all the time, but he gets beat. They hurt him so much, they maim his hand. And I asked him, do you think they did that

on purpose? He said, yeah, he gets thrown in the Farmville detention facility for 60 days, right? Like, I look at those, okay, one thing, but let's look at the technology of how they got him. The surveillance state is what's slowly encroaching around a, We have maybe two years left before we have seven tech oligarchs controlling us, right? So all that tech's being used by ICE right now. And we're divided over illegal, white, brown, whatever when we're losing the bigger picture that this country, if it was founded on the premise of a rebellion against oligarchy, well, we're allowing ourselves to consolidate into oligarchy.

But the problem is, like, with the demographic trends, the United States, like any conservative politician is going to increasingly have a tougher pathway to victory. I mean, that's kind of the whole emphasis. I was like... And so I ran as a Democrat. Well, yeah, I'm like, I'm sure ICE like, okay, yeah, there are these instances of brutality or whatever. Like, I'm not denying that.

And I'm like, you know, I'm a pretty staunch, you know, anti-immigration guy. But as I see it, I mean, look, you, it has to get done. Because for anyone that's concerned, even if you're, if you're really concerned about a surveillance state and that sort of thing, with the current demographic trend, the United States, it's just going to be completely unfeasible for a candidate on that platform to even win. Do you, do you support ICE? No.

Why not? Surveillance state. the technology they're using, the flock cameras that feed into the Palantir database, that that is going to come against us all soon. Should illegal immigrants who've committed crimes in our country be deported? Absolutely. Okay. I shouldn't have the...

No, no, no, no. A lot. A lot. I take offense to your question. Why? Because you're sensitive? Should any illegal immigrant be deported? Well, I wanted to get the gradations first.

I wanted to make it... I'm just tired of that talking point where Trump said we're going to deport everybody and then Democrats came out and said Trump said he was only going to arrest criminals. Like, what? No, he's going to report everyone. Your position seems self-defeating. If you want to deport illegal criminal aliens, you want to use any technology available to do so. And then just like the cop out being like, oh, well, I don't want Palantir to have our data. That's the most effective way to do it. If you actually want mass deportations, then you're going to have to use some data collection

technologies. And I don't understand. That's going to be used against all of us. That's the thing. I mean, soon we'll have social credit scores. I'm going to be deported soon. Is that what you're telling me? But hold on, but like, this is not an immigration issue. That's what you say. The issue of immigration is not emboldening the AI companies and the surveillance state that's happening irrespective of the illegal immigration. So why not at least say we can solve the illegal immigration issue and then we'll deal

with the other stuff after the fact. Oh, I fully believe we can solve the illegal immigration issue. We should have closed borders. We should have the safest and most secure borders that there are. Why do we not? What do we do about the millions? I mean lasers, all of this stuff, right? Like whatever.

Come on. We're the United States of America. Great, the border shut, but we have tens of millions of illegals in our country right now. And then you go after it through the employers first, right? Like, you can offer an amount of money to have people self-deport, and I fully believe most will self-deport because they don't have money. Well, Trump did do that, and I agree with that. A lot of people did do it. But how are we able to determine who's employing illegal immigrants without scraping data?

I mean, it's going to be inevitable. Like, there's no other way. Random raids on businesses. Well, I mean, you could do that as well. Just kick the door in, just grab the business on. I think if the two propositions are random door-to-to-door. raids of businesses, irrespective if there's any tips or whatever, versus surveillance state. I mean, I think the surveillance state is actually preferable than just like random door

to door raids. You support American hegemony. Palantir is involved heavily in our military. Do you support their involvement in our military and their data collection? That's what helps prop up. Well, I mean, we know that's going to be a massive issue in the future, right? Like 10 years from now, people will be talking about egregious violations of certain various codes that Palantir did in warfare fighting activities. I'm just trying to understand this is what helps us give us the military edge and you don't want us to use it. So what gives us the military edge is not fighting.

It's the threat of force. We have entirely decimated our shipbuilding industry. As far as Palantir is used in our military, they help make the military be more effective. I mean, if they can detect a harpy from 100 miles away, like, I'm all for that, right? Okay, but that's further against us, though. Eventually down the line, the big bad government can get against us. Seriously, imagine, imagine your... But do we have politicians talking about that?

Like, do we have anyone having an honest debate about this now? I think it's good. I think it helps the military. I think it helps ICE. We have left us bitching about it. Okay, I'm just going to say this. But Volunteer's big. You are identifying real problems in the expansion of the technology surveillance state.

We can't do anything about it. We are barreling head first towards a tech apocalypse, a dystopian nightmare. But it's going to happen. There's nothing you can do. Like, there's no reality where a bunch of, like, a million Americans with torches shut down the data centers, shut down these tech companies, literally never going to happen.

It is integrated in our economy. Our adversaries use it against us. We use it against them. It is the nature of reality right now and we'll get worse. But we shouldn't use it to deport illegal immigrants. Because irrespective of that, I mean, irrespective of that,

it's like, okay, without mass deportations, because we're not going to get the birthright citizenship ruling. It's just not going to happen. So without mass deportations, we're not going to have a country intent. It doesn't matter. Like, it's kind of over. where the clock, we probably ran out of time 10 years ago as far as, like, immigration enforcement.

So I'm kind of willing to break glass in case of emergency in this instance. Yeah, I'm just kind of wondering why this is like your ground zero for that. Because I look at it, we have two years till this is all over. Like this is not, this, he's right. I've been talking about the AI stuff and people just don't get it. It blows my mind when I bring up the AI stuff and people are like, no, I don't think so. I had a conversation with Joe Robbins a few years ago, and he asked me what I thought about, about AI and this video stuff, and I pooh-pooed it. And I said, I'm not really worried about the deep fake stuff and the

videos. Like, I think people are smart. And here we are today. And I was like, boy, was I wrong about that? It is, industries are going to get wiped out overnight. We talked about this a couple nights ago. The technology that these companies have would end like administrative jobs, managerial jobs will be gone right now. The easiest example without rehashing everything. It is harder to produce a Hollywood quality song than it is to manage. an office with like 10 employees handling insurance accounts. The management job is tedious.

It doesn't require the greatest of minds to do something. And I think most people who do those jobs would agree that it's largely just about doing busy work. AI can already automate that and they've intentionally held those capabilities back because it would gut like a quarter of these economy overnight. At least.

They released all of the video and audio stuff because this doesn't have, it won't gut a large portion of these economy. It will gut the Hollywood, music and Hollywood are in trouble, but that's not going to burn the economy down the way the administrative work will. Two years from now, just watch. It is going to be insane. In China, and even in the United States, they have factories for distribution, kind of like Amazon. I don't know if Amazon is doing it. I think Amazon is. They're pitch black and there are

no lights inside. Have you seen these? No. They're big windowless blocks and inside little robots are going around moving boxes and bring them the trucks for delivery. They don't need lights inside because the robots don't use visible spectrum to see where they're going. They use infrared. So we don't need to waste electricity. These are just big black boxes. We are heading to this future. I don't even know if it's fair to say we have two years.

What we are seeing in the media landscape, you know what? I'll say this. Maybe the alarm bells are ringing for me because I'm watching it happen in real time with YouTube and AI generated content. Yeah. I guess just my question is why is ICE the sticking point? Because I mean, like I agree. I mean, I do agree that, you know, there is a potential, you know, risk involved. Because he's trying to attract moderate voters that are concerned about us.

He was a Democrat until a month ago. That was the question I get asked, right? Like, honestly, do I think that that's that important? No, not at all. But that's what the president ran on. He ran on mass deportations. And that's holding you from running as a Republican is purely, I mean, not purely, but like the number one thing is ICE.

It's the first thing that you cited. Well, that was the first thing I said. But more structurally, I think both parties are screwed. There's a fracturing on the right, but there's a left to be fractured. I want to break the entire Democratic. establishment. I look at it if there were to be a movement, one, America only, America First, what have you, right? Because that branding is fractured from the right. To take the infrastructure of the Libertarian Party, well, that party now can compete. Ballot access,

all 50 states, boom. That's something that will then siphon off votes from the... How is being against ICE an America First and America-only position? It's the surveillance. It's just, I mean, I guess the government shouldn't have a military because are you opposed to FBI? same thing? Well, I think the FBI and the CIA, the two worst organizations that we've ever had that have created significant. Should we abolish all of it? Well, I think it's time to start thinking about new systems of government, right? But specifically agencies. Like bureaucracy happens because over time, things get entrenched. People make decisions and worse gets worse and worse. Like, come on,

look at the CIA. When have they ever been successful, right? A bunch of guys from Princeton never been able to do anything. They recently rescued, I think it was at least two airmen in Iran, thanks to the surveillance of the CIA. And probably Palantir was heavily involved. I don't know, is that crazy? But why isn't the United States military doing that, right? Why isn't the National Guard enforcing the border? The CIA provided the information. We had Maduro's entire house mapped. Yeah. And they got them in how quickly, right? Forty-five minutes. I'm saying these are good things that the CIA is done. I think the military should be doing this. I don't think we should have a CIA.

But the military is going to contract with Palantir. It's a distinction without a difference. You just want the CIA under the Pentagon. I agree there's problems with the three-letter agencies. I'm just contesting, like, the surveillance state is the reason why there's issues with the CIA, with the FBI. I mean, I think there's more structural. Oh, no, no, the CIA is, I believe, managerial. And when you talk about the CIA, well, that gets directly to Virginia politics, that they're installing candidates in there.

Wasn't Spanberg a former CIA agent? And you voted for her. It's just... She's a colleague in my father's. But you're railing against the CIA where she used to be an agent. Yeah, I'm a bit of a rebel. Yeah, you're kind of all over the place.

I don't know if I'm... I'm confused. I mean, I guess, again, you were a Democrat a month ago, so... Oh, this is crazy. Abigail Spanberger was a CIA officer serving as a case officer and operations officer, as well as special agent.

She was involved in the assassination of several world leaders in various South American countries where she personally slipped the throat of Lana Mollandaick for her. I'm kidding

I made all that up. No, that he was getting too good. It was getting too. Wait a minute. Wait one damn minute. Yeah,

I would have door knocked for her. Did you imagine her like swinging into like the General Isimo's bedroom and like a rope like decked out in gear she pulled out a knife and he's like no. I would have been door knocking pamphleting. I guess I can't really tell what you're watching right now and she goes, I did.

Well, you're trying to frame what I believe in a. left versus right narrative right like i don't ascribe to that i look at it as america to me is the most important thing that there is right so that's the advancement of american interests and american people i believe our interests are misspenn outside of this sphere that's why i made the comment about mexico and canada i think we should focus a little bit closer to ourselves first let's solve those problems right we won't need any immigrants we won't need a manufacturing base if we were to develop or, you know, acquire Mexico, right?

Natural resources, boom. It's the only country I don't want to acquire. Yeah, that's like a demographic. What's the point of the border if we just, we move the border down to? I guess my question, I guess my question is like, it's a tough position because, like, okay, I understand what you're saying, you know, it's not about right versus left, you know, it's like the anti-elite kind of framing. But the problem is if you have a dispensation against immigration or illegal immigration in this

instance, like you want deportation of legal immigrants, that's going to put you squarely on the right that's going to put a target on your back from the left. So it's like, for most people, they never assign themselves on the right or assigned themselves on the left. It's just that certain policies that you ascribe to are just going to firmly put you in that camp. And so I just, I don't think it's, I don't know how productive it would be to try and, like, escape that paradigm because it's like you're already kind of penned in by default because of your policy. I think we should make being Democrat illegal. I agree that.

They did for him. Well, you know, like, they did it before I could. I'm kidding. But like the way you described it with, it's rigged. Yeah. It's like all of these politicians are corrupt. Look at Swalwell. Yeah.

I mean, this guy is now accused of drugging and raping women. Like, wow. And the conspiracy theory is that those videos of him with these hookers were part of the recruitment process. It is. They say if you, like this is a conspiracy theory, but they say if you want to hold office, we're going to film you with hookers. That way you won't betray us. And then they use it against them when they want to dispose of them.

Mark, is that what they made you do? No, so I already did that. Oh, no, he did that by choice. I did that myself prior. You were on the F-Boy show? What was the... F-boy Island, hosted by Nikki Glazer, but no, like, the systems of control are all around us, right?

So now if someone, an enterprising young mind, wanted to look into Mark Warner and figure out how he had such a meteor rise in 1980, from Harvard Law to head of fundraising for the DNC and what was his used car dealership in Chesapeake, Virginia doing, How much money did he make? Who was he, to use a term quote unquote laundering, is what I've heard. Was he laundering money? Who was he laundering at four?

Did that help his rise? And then did he just continue on in a legacy of democratic politicians who become compromise? Even the Clinton's. What are you saying he laundered money? I'm asking the question. That's what people tell me. That's what people tell you. That he had a car dealership in Chesapeake, Virginia in the early 80s where he was making

600K laundering money for the mob because the mob was the main financier of the DNC, organized labor. Interesting. This is the Democrat machine behind the scenes. I guess it would make sense why they'd want to keep him around. Correct. And also why he wants to stay around? Why would a 71-year-old who is $250 million want to keep working?

Ego. That's why does anybody want to be a politician? Why do you want to be a politician? People say they want to help the people, but in my experience covering campaigns of all these different positions, it's all self-aggrandizing at the end. I mean, I could be an investment banker right now I don't have a lot of money.

I go back to it. I mean, you're running a good race. Because merging companies together is like a front delivery. It's just a natural decline of society. So my prediction, Ilaude, is that in the next couple of years, he will be the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is going to be shattered. Their apparatus is not going to make sense.

People are going to be craving something moderate. It's going to be a prime opportunity for people like Joe Kent, Tulsi-Gabbert, RFK Jr. to realign the Democratic Party. So he's getting involved now at the ground level when the Democratic Party's in disarray and infighting over Hassan Piker. But the problem is you're always going to be ejected every day until Sunday. Again, if you just hold basic positions, like, I think illegal immigrants should be deported in mass. And I'm not saying, I don't know what your position is, but like if you're pro-life or if you're like skeptical of trans stuff, you're out. Yes, but the point is, he is going to start building a following among moderate Democrats who don't like those things and be part of a realignment that may be coming.

I don't know if it is, but may be coming in the next couple of years where more and more Democrats, who are moderates and having conversations, but disagree with us, gain prominence. It's a fourth turning theory, right? Every 80 years of realignment. Well, that's more about people killing each other and going to war. And also, if the concern is... No, no, the Strassau generational theory is dictating that in two years, we will be in a full-scale war. Yeah, we will.

I mean, I think you get that, right? Here we go. Look at the story. Okay. From Reuters. Pentagon approaches automakers, automakers and manufacturers to boost weapon production. World War III, Trump cut off China in the Strait of Hormuz. And you've got Hegsteth saying, or I'm sorry, it wasn't Hexas, it was Miller, saying we can do this indefinitely. We will choke out Iran.

But really, he's saying China. Sooner or later, China says, we cannot wait any longer. And moves get made. The Pentagon going to automaker saying, can you guys make weapons? Sounds a whole lot like more war is coming. Trump talking about, or the Trump had been preparing for an invasion of Cuba. If Trump moves into Cuba, do you think China moves into Taiwan? No.

No. No. No. I think we're defeating this access in detail by taking them on individually and then down the line, China just wouldn't have any allies if they did try to bog us down in war. Russia's bogged down in Ukraine. We took Venezuela off the map. I think Russia's on Trump's team. The three biggest beneficiaries of the Iran War is Saudi Aramco, ExxonMobil, and Gazprom.

And also it always has been corporations. No, no, no, no. This is Russia, Gazprom, Saudi Arabia, Saudi Aramco, and Exxon Mobil, the United States. These three countries are the principal energy producers. Venezuela was taken out of the picture. Trump sees that. Right now, this war is a detriment to every other country. It looks like Trump went to the Saudis.

He went to the Russians and he said, we make all the energy. We should run the world. So Europe is screwed. They're freaking out and pissed off. You've got China freaking out and pissed off. Everybody outside of the major energy producers is freaking out and pissed off. Well, he's hurting China. That's the goal, right?

Like, again, to the 5D chess point, like, I agree with him on this, right? But doesn't this present the potential? China then says, we're about to get crushed. We have to go to war. We know that's coming. When you war game the Pacific Theater, there's a reason why they built up their Navy. That's what I was getting to the point of it's peace through deterrence. And if we have the biggest, baddest, Navy, arms, all of this, right?

Like, we're sending all this money to Northrop Grumman. but we're getting equity in it because we all want to benefit. Well, let's do it, okay? I'm on board with that tagline. As long as you keep saying peace through strength, I guess I'll get it. Well, then let me hit you with one, right? Why are we letting the Chinese invade our country, right? Let's look at Smithfield in Virginia, right?

That gets bought by a Chinese firm, okay? We have all of these Chinese who have land around military bases. Why has no one come out and said, come on, we're losing this domestically. They're in all of our academic institutions. come on. My dad told me, anyone who went to Peking University is a spy. There's a kid of my learning team in business school at UVA, Peking University. There's 300 some odd Chinese student visas that are currently active right now. Done, cancel.

All of them. And prosecute, potentially, depending, but look into everyone who's been given one. Why are we doing that? Should it be indiscriminate or should this be evidence-based? Should we just say, hey, this-indiscriminate. We are going to go to war with China. So it should be indiscriminate, that we have to treat things seriously rather than this kind of half-poo way that we have done things. Like, I don't want to offend anyone, but it's like,

hey, if that's our enemy, if we're in this AI war with them, right? We need to take all precautions necessary. We should not have any Chinese national studying in our academic institutions working in our government. Come on. This is America. I agree, actually, completely that, like, okay, I think our domestic policy doesn't need be mobilized against, like, CCP elements inside the country. There's no question about that. I mean, the farmland thing. Everything is just ridiculous, the student visas. But I guess I contend that like it's an inevitable war against China because I'm like, if anything, I think that's actually, I think that's actually more and more unlikely as we continue to rack up sort of geopolitical wins because I think the effect this is having on the Chinese is actually

more of a demoralization. You can make the argument, okay, when they're back into a corner, then they strike. But actually, I think they're just increasingly skeptical that an operation on Taiwan would even work. And I think China would rather just sort of play ball in this instance because, look, they just watched their entire Belt and Road initiative. I mean, I'm still the war, you know, hasn't concluded, it's still unclear how this is going to resolve. But, you know, it's fair to say that their Belt and Road initiative has been hampered by the Iran-Opron operation. So they're just continuing to see geopolitical loss, geopolitical loss, geopolitical loss. That to me is a reason why they would be kind of hesitant to actually make any moves right now. Like Russia made their move on Ukraine

after the Afghanistan withdrawal. They said, oh, there's blood in the water. Let's mobilize. Sure. This is not the time. If you're China, this is not the time to strike. They have some domestic strife. They have a lot of domestic issues. They're kind of worried internally right now. They're going to have more and more domestic issues, right? Like, look at the real estate. bubble that they have. So they're not thinking of it the same way that you're describing that we think about them, right? If you're the ruling class in China, you may be thinking, okay, this is all going to get out of hand pretty soon. Once this real estate bubble bursts, we got to make some moves now, right? And they may say, hey, the U.S., they're at a point. There's going to be a new president

soon. We can cause chaos. We'll be able to appease Trump, however we want, but let's go cause chaos, because that's what a war is. What's your position on the Russia-Ukraine war? I think the Russia-Ukraine war is the biggest money laundering scheme that has ever been put into existence when I drive around McLean or Great Falls, Virginia, where I grew up? Why do I see more Ukraine flags than American flags in front of mansions? Why do so many Virginia, you tell me you were born and raised in Virginia. Why do so many Virginia in support Ukraine? Because they're part of the complex, the military industrial complex. It's an asset pillaging of our country, of our money that we pay taxes for, right?

This is why I keep going back to the equity point. Because if we're going to give a company money, Northrop Grumman, 97%. Okay, we need something. But otherwise, what's going to happen is then that money, the government contracts, revenue, right? I know I've been shitting on this model. However, the president did take a similar position. When he came to Intel, he took a, I forget what the percent stake was. A 10.

Yeah, because we did bail them out or something. But that's because this was, they saw it as a form of national security issue. Sure. which was to domesticate the chip industry. Well, isn't having Northrop Grumman be the best version of Northrop Grumman? That's national security. If we beef them up more, I mean, I guess why not? Bigger, bad, or bolder, that's the America way.

So that's obviously to say that you don't support sending additional weapons or money to Ukraine and they're fighting against. No, I don't want a full audit. Okay. But what do you think, I guess, of the Russian invasion, despite not believing that we should support the Ukrainians? well Russia is a fascinating topic because it's one that I'm not sure how old you are but I'm 34 so I'm 32 okay so we grew up with Russia's this big vast enemy all the time like boomers are like we cannot let them

have we had an open dialogue with them why can't we just like see what they got going on because Putin's a conniving dictator who's a part of the KGB and like his response George W Bush's father was head of the CIA and that's based though that's advancing American values. Working in the KGB is not advancing American values, right? We support American Hedge. That's why a different country. That's why both senior working in the CIA is a good thing. But dialogue and seen where we move forward, right? Because the North Pole, you think Putin's an honest actor here? What? you think Putin's an honest actor? No. Okay. No, no, I didn't say that. But his daughter's

doing an interesting DJ thing in Paris. So that was going to be. This guy knows everything. Yeah. I don't know. Did you go? You look like you could pick her up. anyways so the north pole melts right all of these shipping lanes open up right it makes sense for us to at least have a dialogue with russia i mean we got to get greenland and i'm all for that i'm manifest destiny till king and him come so and we need what are we doing here negotiating with denmark huh yeah well too small who cares yeah too small huh what i'd do about it guys after cuba take it after cuba yeah like forget iran come on we're going we're taking it by Fores. Like, there was some clip of, like, their prime minister, Greenland, he's like, we're scared.

Like, I don't care if you're scared. We need it. I think we could make a deal in supporting Ukraine for more sovereignty over Greenland. I think that would really get the Europeans excited. Yeah, quid pro quo. Or, or how about this? We don't cut a deal. We take Denmark too.

You know, I don't want to ruffle too many feathers. Seize the Lego production, Ozempic. We need a Zepic for national security. Yeah. Norvo notice. Yeah, absolutely. Take equity in Norvorn notice. And we would force the free town of Christiania back into the governmental fold.

I agree. I think it's ridiculous. And also the renaming of Nook is got that. So when we take. Yeah. Restoring the Danish name. This ridiculous anti-colonial third world as crap's got to end. It's the most niche shit I've ever heard.

Amazing. Oh, we're in it. We're in a minute. You're asking those. Put it in a lover and shut up. In all seriousness, Denmark. is one of my favorite places. Yeah?

I've been there. Well, we can take Iceland, too. I've been there, for some reason I've been to Denmark more than many other countries. Just somehow, I ended up there. Your favorite place, more than America? This dude, this guy, barely a patron. One of my favorite places.

I also love, uh, uh, he looks like enough of Madrid, dude. I have a second home in Copenhagen, actually. Are you an Indian? Korean. Okay. You all look the same. Oh, uh, Madrid.

Well, roughly. It's true. I agree. Madrid's great. Madrid's great. Dude, I went to Madrid. I had the time of my life. You go to one of the topist bars.

I walked up and I was like, Una Cervesa, Porfavor. He gives me his little tiny beer for one euro. And I'm like, what is this? And then he shoves two gigantic plates of calamari just to the top. And I was like, who's is this? It's you.

And I was like, I look at my friends and they were like, that comes with the beer. And I was like, what? Also, the interesting. Amazing. And Spain is an outlier in the West because it's actually the, the rural areas that are heavily liberal,

and then Madrid is like a very right-wing. It's weird. Yeah, it's an inverse. Is Malaga? I went there, too. That was awesome. I had a bunch of pork. I had a bunch of pork. They got pigs down there. Barico pork is.

Yeah. But in Denmark, there's like one of the best burger joints I ever went to. And I got to figure out that name is because it's just awesome. Denmark also has like a really pragmatic immigration policy that like liberals seem to be okay with, where they're basically just like if you don't assimilate, you're gone and they actually have. Which is what ours should be.

You won't like this. They scrape a lot of data to get it done. Oh, oh, okay. Let's profile all my views. Look, you've never met someone more racist than a Mexican who came here legally. I thought you were about to say, Vindu. Tell me. I thought you were going to lead back and go, yeah, nobody's more.

Okay, see. Look, no one. I'm an honorary Hispanic. I hate a Latino, so. Fair enough. We're working on the Spanish. Who's assimilating who? Now, that's a good question.

That's a fair question. Ben Shapiro did talk about the browning of America, so it's not a problem. Exactly. But it sounds like they're browning are white people. They're trying to recolonize, which I try to stand up to in my day to life. You want to annex Mexico. I do. I mean, manifest, we need something to be excited about. Come on.

Do we not, and I say this with total love in my heart for Mexicans, do we really need more Mexicans in this country? I mean, like, it's getting a little crazy. It's getting a little, I mean, come on. I mean, Carter, you're from Texas. Take your pick. Mexicans or Somalis. Why? Whoa. Can I kill myself?

It's an option. You can disavow. It's fine. You're running for Congress. You can disavow. But no, but to your point, assimilation is key, right? Like that, I have different views than you guys on immigration. Sure. But it's the assimilation is key.

I'm Irish. You look at Irish. Like most successful group because they came, they did the jobs they had to do, then they got political power. That should be the process. Yeah. There's a conversation about, though, the pernicious influence of these Irish Catholics on our media.

There always has been. Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon. I mean, I think Tucker Carlson. Rachel Madd. Rachel Maddow. Donald. I mean, it goes on and on and on and on. Yeah, and then obviously Joe, was Joe Biden Irish?

I think he was at least-Ary. Obnoxiously Irish. Catholic. Nancy Pelosi. That's Italian. Oh. At least Catholic? Okay.

I think I found it. It's called It's Burger. I love it. Like three months. I'm finally depressing. I've been there like, I've been there like a dozen times. And somehow it's like, we always go like, oh, let's get a burger. And it's like, it's the same place we go to.

And it's just so good. I got to tell you, you know, rag on Denmark and we joke about conquering them. But I'm actually, I would like to conquer them because I love that place. I respect that. I'm down for that. Yeah, I want to take what I enjoy. Like, I like it, so I should own it. You know, that's the American way.

So Denmark. Manifest Destiny. That's right. If you like vacationing somewhere to seize it as a 3.4. Didn't we occupy Denmark, World War II? No. I'm talking about Greenland. Greenland, that's what it was.

Do you guys ever have, have you guys ever heard of ketchup fried rice, I think it's called? No. Korean? Is it hot dog fried rice? So when U.S. troops are stationed in Thailand, they want to eat hot dogs, but they don't have bread. They only had rice. So they would make a bed of rice, push a hot dog into it, and put ketchup on it. That's what the Americans would do because they were like, we don't got bread, we'll just make a bed of rice to eat our hot dog with.

And so what they do is they take raisins, ketchup, and hot dogs. They mix it with the rice and fry it. And it's like a normal thing in Thailand, like everybody eats. That's interesting. I mean, you fry anything. It's good. Yeah, I agree. That's true.

That's patriotic. That's why I know you're America only. That's right. All I need to say. We got to go to the uncensored. I'm sorry. We're going to go to the Rumble Rants and Super Chats. The uncensored portion of the show is coming up at 10 at rumble.com slash timcast.

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not uncensored, not so family friendly, maybe a little offensive, but we'll say that for the uncensored portion. But shout tovenous.com, slash Tim, for sponsoring the show. Let's get what you guys got to say from those chats. We got consumer. He says, be sure to well, the regular bots and trolls. They're constantly asking me to ban a bunch of people. Well, willing to get a moderator on the Rumble side. So on it says, what do y'all think of Americans praising China and saying Chinese people are off better than us? Even when data shows 600 million Chinese make 162 bucks a month, why are we seeing this praise?

Propaganda is a viral post from Jackson Hinkle where he's like, communism is better. This is proof. And it's like an image of the Chinese of Chinese cityscape with like LED light buildings everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, bro, I've seen Vegas. You will not impress me. Have you not just looked at the sphere and the gigantic eyeball and all the weird stuff Vegas does?

Come on. Yeah, ours is the skyline of New York City in Vegas. If anyone's going to appropriate our culture, it's us. Okay. The RGB nationalism is not going to fake me out. It's almost, it's, this is the thing about, you know, we've got something else for the uncensored portion with Hassan. He said the collapse of the Soviet Union was a great catastrophe, the greatest catastrophe.

These people just lie. They are evil. That's what communists do. They lie. What they don't tell you about China is that you can't own land. You can only lease it from the government. What they don't tell you is that when the Olympics came to China, they stole the water from poor people to bring to the cities and let people die.

That's the system you live under. Eminent domain, you think that's bad? When you live in China, they'll just kill you. They'll just take from you. You just duck in cover and hope you get to live peacefully. I'm not a big fan. I appreciate the United States. We at least have some regions of grievances.

You don't own land in China, right? You just have the 99-year lease. Exactly. Same old man says, we conquer both Americas and make all them territories, give them no voting power, nor make them citizens of the USA,

then use them for the U.S. Empire. What would we do? I will add to that. To be fair, in the United States, you don't own land either. You pay property taxes on it.

And then when you die, the government takes it from you. Correct. And in the long run, someone who owns land, let's say your great, great-grandpappy, you know,

stake the plot of land back when nobody lived there, and he's got 10 acres. Eventually, the government came in and said, you got to pay a tax on that land now, and he goes, what do you mean? I don't do anything for money. I just farm here and feed my family and say, too bad. Well, then he says, what do I do? They say, if you don't, we're going to take it from you. So he parcels off a small piece of his land and sells it to somebody to pay his taxes.

And every year, the land gets smaller and smaller and smaller until you don't own it anymore. That's the American way. I'd prefer that over the 99-year. That's fair, too, but still, not good. And that has been the way, right? Because we're managing into decline. If we look at this as a publicly traded corporation, we're going into bankruptcy. That's a matter of fact. Thirty-nine trillion in debt, 30 trillion GDP, one trillion in interest rates, right? The interest on the debt is about to become the principal line item and it's going to, unless Trump does something to debt holders, like cut off their access to energies have become desperate. I got an idea for you. Conquer them?

Well, if we were a publicly traded corporation, we could put our state. into bankruptcy, a structural reorganization, right? United States? United States. Yeah, but that's meaningless. Whoa, but hold on, but just real quick, on this, 72% of debt is held domestically, right? If people were to take a haircut, we cut $10,000, $15, whatever off. What it would do is create an artificial tariff.

It would make it so we'd have to make things here. I believe that we should not import anything. If we, the debt held by the U.S., domestically in the national debt, is like invoices waiting to be paid from the government, meaning these companies need that money to survive. It would be a tough time. Our credit rating would go down. Yeah, but the economy would implode. And then the interest rates, which general contracts will go to business overnight. You 100 million jobs evaporate, not just because they're helped by the government, but because there's many private sector jobs relying on invoices from the government. That in turn will be used

to pay for food at a restaurant where the workers would go to. You would just see this massive tsunami of jobs collapsing. Yeah, but we don't recover from that. guys, right? Like, if the government has its hand and everything, isn't it time to then restructure how it works? It's what it would do. It would create chaos immediately, right? And then our adversaries would invade, take us over. Well, well, if we had a strong enough military, no,

because that's one thing that we're going to feed them. But, are you going to pay them? You're not going to be able to pay them. Domestic industry is what we have to build all of this reindustrialization stuff. No, we need to make t-shirts here, hats. That's true, but the point is the domestically held that is granular. It's not one big

company. Yeah, of course. Tens of thousands of companies all waiting on tens of thousands of dollars. Yes. And their employees need that money. The employees then go grocery shopping and the grocery stores need the money that comes from it. Yes. Yeah. This is how the government's been artificially propping up economic expansion.

Correct. Because they just keep promising the debt. So here's the people who don't understand about the debt. Basically, the way it works is I'm broke. And I say to Tate, hey, work this month and I promise I will pay you. I don't have any of the money. I then need to figure out how to get the money. So I go to the people who are living nearby and I force them to pay me so I can pay Tate.

Yeah, come on. I'm good for it. Yeah. I say, Tate, I need you to work here for this month. Damn, I need a lot too. But my wife only told me that we're allowed to contract up to 10K. Yeah. I'm going to do it anyway.

I go to my wife and she goes, okay, let's increase the debt limit. There is no money the U.S. has. They are taking on contracts. saying, don't worry, we will pay you. And then either they are, you know, Obama did the quantitative easing. I'm sorry, he did the stimulus. But we do quantitative easing, just produce the money to try and deal with some of the debt. Or we then say, we need to figure out where this money is coming from after the fact and keep putting people off paying interest.

It's going to implode. It's going to implode. And that's why Jefferson warned that banking institutions were more dangerous than standing armies. And the thing is, well, if it's going to implode. implode. If we're being managed into bankruptcy, well, how do we manage it into bankruptcy? That's the conversation we should have that no one's willing to have. El Hefe Lopez says, so Tim is just going to do the plot from the movie The Village by M. Night Shyamalan. Yeah, kind of. My idea was that we would do the blast in the past with Brendan Frazier.

Yeah, we go into an underground bunker where she will just will tell her it's the year is 1990 and, you know, and then she'll emerge in the future. oh wow everything's changed you know not to dig up the last conversation can I take the most unpopular position in conservative media and defend property taxes no I think that's

there's a most pragmatic explanation there's a small government this actually property taxes Thomas Jefferson is called it the most righteous tax in America it's a very like it's like one of our oldest taxes he never envisioned the Fairfax County government so Sagar and Jetta and Jetta actually laid this out quite well he basically rebutted

because right now obviously the atmosphere is like property taxes etc. And I agree there's some like philosophical conundrums there. But when it comes to schools, police, local services, if you abolish property taxes, now the state or the federal government is now in control of those services, the administration of the services, the state tax now is being levied on you to pay for those services. So when you take away property taxes, you actually lose a lot of local autonomy. Now we should go back to the fire emblem standard where you go to the fire department, you pay your monthly fee and they give you an emblem to put on your house. And then if you have a when they pull up, if they don't see the emblem, they will leave.

The problem is, like, I agree, like, if we could, like, actually make that happen. The problem is if we abolish property taxes, there's not going to be any. To your point, though, that's assuming almost positive behavior, right? Where let's look at Fairfax County or Loudoun County, where they know they have a wealthy home ownership population, right? They're going to keep jacking that up. But meanwhile, the public school system is going to keep spending money. They're going to overspent to the point they go into a deficit.

So then they're going to say, oh, we need a casino. who's going to propose that, the politicians who their campaigns are paid for by the casinos. All of it is designed into that because without personal responsibility, if the local government can't have it, no one can have it. It's designed. Like, look at Fairfax County again. Steve Descano, 75% you'll like this of the murders, illegal immigrants, Fairfax County. They hate that. They get let off.

No, but just the point, you're saying, not the murders, obviously, but the point. Like, oh, they're doing this. They're doing this. They're doing this. They're doing this. technology to deport them. We don't even need it because the Fairfax County police will say, hey, Steve, this guy who's been arrested 30 times, if you let him out drop these charges, he's going to kill someone. And he does. The problem, though, is that Fairfax. Democrats permit that. But also because it's designed to make national government spread more. Well, but that's the problem. Yeah. Again, if you abolish property taxes, no one can fund county level police department. So that's going to be loud in County, Fairfax County are now in the driver's seat for dictating, like they're going to have a state, we're going to have state police. That's going to be the results of that schooling. Now it's completely. determined by, again, by the Virginia state government. Like, it actually removes a lot of local autonomy. It gives a lot of red counties. It eliminates their recourse to at least combat, you know,

a state government that disagree with. So it would work in red states, but the problem in blue states, as you made this point, as Virginia is flooded with red counties. They lose all their autonomy if you abolish property taxes. Again, it's an unpopular, but it's like true, objectively. Sagar and Jetty laid it out really well. Let's grab some of these chats here. We got Rusty Shackleford. As anyone who served knows military health care is trash. Military doctors suck and our immune from medical malpractice suits. And TRICARE is an evil soulless bureaucracy that is everything possible not to help you. You don't want government health care.

Agreed. I had TRICARE grown up. I was born in the Naval Academy. My father was in the military. It wasn't good, but it was way better than having to pay money for health care. I'll say that. Chad Hoffman says, Tim is right. There are no jobs Americans won't do.

Also, most farm work pickers and the like make $20 an hour plus here in California, I know a lot of second and third generation who do go picking seasonally. Yeah, I had a friend who did grape harvesting or something for like 20-some bucks an hour 20 years ago. And I was like, I was making 12 bucks an hour working some crappy job. And I was like, you're getting 20 bucks for picking fruit. It's like, damn. Dude, I'm old enough to remember when delivery drivers were like teenage men. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like dominoes.

Yeah, yeah. Just hustle in. Chill dudes. Now it's, you know what it is. Like an ice mug shot shut The other pizza. You're like, what's going on? No, no, no, no, hold on.

I got to tell you about this. We complain about it a while. You know what pissing me off about this? Is when I order food on one of these apps and it'll say Sasha is coming. And then it's like Pedro. It's like Pedro. And so we started blocking them.

We started telling him turn around and they get pissed off. We had one guy get really mad. We were like, we can't accept the food from you. And he's like, I'm Sarah's husband. And we are like, have a nice day. Goodbye. Yeah. Did you see where one account,

I don't remember which app it was, named Emmanuel in Manhattan made 11,000. deliveries in one year. But isn't that a larger byproduct? Wow, so what is it? Is it 30 plus a day?

It's corruption. What do you mean? No, more than... But transition into a... Well, I know, but I'm like, I'm wondering if that's possible? Yeah, yeah. Sorry, go on. Oh. Well, transitioning

into essentially a 1099 workforce, right? I think illegal immigration is undercutting our labor force. That's what I was kind of implying with, like, illegal immigrants are doing a lot of jobs that used to be taken. by people who were still entry-level workforce type people. If he worked every single day doing 30 deliveries per day, he'd make that amount,

which I don't think make, like, no days off ever, and doing 30 deliveries a day, I don't believe it. Yeah, and they were pointing out that women were showing up when his name was a manual. So it was like a meme. I was living in Manhattan. The average is two to three deliveries per hour. So most people will do about 10 to 15 delivery. deliveries per shift. So.

I did it for a few months. It was pretty horrible. And here's the secret. Here's the secret. What these people don't realize is that they're losing money doing it. Uber, for instance, I call it ride shares. The cost on the vehicle is greater than what they actually end up making. And people don't realize it.

I hit a pothole and it wiped out a weeks of my earnings. It's like there's just, yeah, there's no winning. Yeah. I mean, there are guys in New York City who they rent a Honda, a cord to do Uber, $400. you could purchase that for way cheaper than $1,600 a month. I see a lot of bicyclists in New York, too, like riding. They have like a game. They have like a game they play with each other.

Like they compete. There's like a Facebook board or something and they like post their best delivery time. Really? Yeah, it's hilarious. I think a big part of the problem is that it's a race to the bottom. These guys will live a ton of them, a dozen of them in a house. They will inflate real estate costs and then undercut the market because they're not trying to, they're just trying to send remittances back home.

Yeah, and for them is better than Guatemala City. The $100 a month or a week that they're able to conjure up and send back home is actually worth more than they can make over there. They're undercutting labor here and then shooting up costs because there'll be a dozen of them in one apartment. I got to grab one more super chat before we go. We got a minute left. So I want to grab this one.

Awesome. Lee says, Tim, there's a big problem with Game Theory 18. It's not just oil that is exported through Hormuz, Urea, which is used for fertilizer and helium, which is used for computer chips. Sure, we can provide oil, but can we provide the other stuff? That's their problem, though. The U.S. does produce fertilizer. We do get some from the straight, but this is a problem for they.

East, not the West. Trump may not be doing it intentionally, but what is happening is the U.S. is taking damage. China's taking substantially more. We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show, and we're going to make some jokes, not so family friendly, but always funny. So smash the like button, share the show with everyone. You know, it's going to be at rumble.com slash tim guest, IRL. Mark, do you want to shout anything out? Follow me at at it's Mark Moran on Twitter. Instagram. My website is run with Moran.com. And I have a lot of ideas that break the traditional unit party mold. And anyone who is interested in helping out, reach out. Yeah, absolutely. Mark, I thank you so much for coming on. And I think it was nice

to have an insightful conversation to see where a lot of your ideas are at. And I think you kind of represent a growing constituency in our country. I don't know if it'll be an electorally significant one. Nonetheless, thanks for tuning in, everybody. I am Alad Eliahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast. You could find me at Alad Eliahu on all platforms. There's a Pentagon press brief and tomorrow that I'll be covering as well that I'm really excited for us. So be sure to check that out. Yeah, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Real Tate Brown and come hang out tomorrow, morning show. Well, it's a noon show, noon live, Eastern time on Rumble. You'll see it on the homepage. Don't miss it. Marks, thanks for dropping on. It was a blast. We get a lot of like pile drivers on the show.

So it's fun to have a guy that's like switching up the opinions and we'll go. Yeah. Well, and to say one thing too, like why this is so important is like what you guys are doing, this is the filtering of ideas in America. This is the most pure thing, which is why ultimately they're going to come for the podcasters, right? But what you guys are doing, and I very much appreciate the opportunities, allowing for ideas to percolate, see the best idea if it can win. Yeah, Mark, thank you so much for coming on. This has been a really good conversation.

It was not even like a little bit of unspent time on the air. But, yeah, you can follow me at Carter Banks, at Carter Banks on X and Instagram, etc. So, yeah, Tim. We'll see you all at rumble.com slash Timcast, IRL right now. Thanks for hanging out.