Timcast IRL - Trump Calls For NUCLEAR OPTION, END Filibuster Over Food Stamp Crisis w/ Roger Simon
Episode Date: November 1, 2025Tim, Seamus, & Ian are joined by Roger Simon to discuss Trump calling on the GOP to end the filibuster to reopen the government, liberal media slamming Trump for accepting White South African refugees..., DOJ investigating the leaders of BLM for fraud, and inmates declaring Luigi Mangione the prison "ambassador." Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Seamus @FreedomToons | http://twistedplots.com/ Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Roger Simon
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Donald Trump is calling on the GOP to end the filibuster so that way they can reopen the government and save everyone's snap benefits.
There's been concerns about food riots.
Democrats are blaming Republicans, Republicans, Democrats.
And of course, Trump has said he's going to get it done.
Now, some people believe that there would be some emergency move made by the time of recording this.
We haven't seen that happen.
But Trump is saying, nuke the filibuster.
And then what we're going to be able to do is get these judges in.
Democrats want to do it.
Why don't we do it now?
I got to say, I don't completely disagree.
So we'll talk about that.
We have some other funny stories.
Polymarket actually has a market where you can predict whether or not Trump will say, quote, the N-word.
It's not a joke.
But I don't think they mean the N-word, even though they wrote it that way.
I think Trump has to say the phrase N-word, because he does when he talks about nuclear.
And the DOJ is investigating Black Lives Matter for fraud.
How fun.
We'll talk about that.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this.
And so much more is Roger Simon.
Hey, great to be here.
I got to tell you that.
Who are you?
What do you do?
I'm a writer from so long I'm almost bored with it.
No, I'm not.
I really love to do it.
I started writing when I was about 15,
and I'm now 409.
400.
So you've seen it all.
Why didn't you do anything to stop slavery?
You saw what happened to those Indians,
and you didn't do anything?
You didn't write about that?
We're near Harper's Ferry here.
I was there for that.
Very evil.
He's actually the guy who alerted the feds on the train.
No, the right answer would have been like,
that's all made up.
I was there. I saw none of that happened.
It's liberal nonsense.
What were some of the big things you wrote
over the years, like the top stuff? Well, you know,
way back the big fix with Richard
Dreyfus, and
then I had my
Oscar nomination for Enemies of Love
Story with Angelica Houston.
I wrote a bunch of novels
including that one which
Richard was in
about the Detective Moses
Wine. That's when I
was a lefty. And then
I became a Ritey and I got kicked out of Hollywood.
Recently or when...
No, I became a Ritee probably on that, the day the planes hit the...
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
I mean, that did it for me.
I realized that there are people out there who wanted to kill us.
Yeah.
Well, it's going to be fun.
There wasn't...
Didn't take too much to figure it out.
Yeah.
Should be fun.
Thanks for hanging out.
Ian, did you introduce yourself already or not yet?
But I am at Ian Crossland.
You can find me there.
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All right. Here's the story from Fox News. Trump urges GOP to end the shutdown by going nuclear
on Senate filibuster, get rid of the filibuster, and get rid of it now, Trump said. Trump urged Republicans
to end the filibuster in order to end the month-long government shutdown. In a late-night,
Truth Social Post, Trump noted that Democrats had tried to eliminate the Senate procedure
when they had control of both chambers of Congress and the White House during the Biden administration.
But then senators Joe Manchin and Kirsten Sinema, both of whom have since then.
let the Democratic Party become independence, helped block the effort.
Trump revived talk of the nuclear option after returning from his Asia trip this week.
Quote, the one question that kept coming up, however, was how did the Democrats shut down the
United States of America and why did the powerful Republicans allow them to do it, Trump wrote.
The fact is, in flying back, I thought a great deal about that question.
Why?
Now, he's going to say that they've got Trump derangement syndrome and all that.
There were some theories that Trump would come out at the very last minute because Snap has expired
and it's not going to happen tomorrow.
He'd come out and say, I am your magnanimous leader
and I have found the money for your food stamps.
But it's looking like now the strategy may be,
hey, they won't reopen government.
We have no choice.
End the filibuster.
And if he does, I say, pack the courts,
four more Supreme Court justices, appointed by Donald Trump,
and then we can make greater Idaho and the state of Jefferson things.
So we'll get four more senators.
What say you, pal?
I think we need 11 more or 12 more judges personally.
We need a big way.
Absolutely right.
and Trump should appoint them all.
I don't know about that.
Are you looking for a job?
I'm open.
It's still like putting it all in the hands of nine people.
What were you going to say, Reg?
I wouldn't mind being on the Supreme Court.
You'd be good at it.
Well, I mean, the-
Since they brought on Kataji Brown-Jackson,
the bar could not be lower.
In fact, it's underground.
So they want to end the idea of the filibuster,
like the ability for the Senate to filibuster at all?
They want to make it illegal?
No, you can still filibuster.
Here's the way it works.
Normally to filibuster,
you stand up and you talk for 20 hours.
They passed a rule saying, okay, that's a waste of our time.
So how about if you filibuster, if you want a filibuster, it's just 60 votes to pass a bill.
But this is stupid because you're never going to get 60 votes.
So the Democrats will always filibuster.
But you only need a simple majority to change the Senate rules.
The Republicans could literally go all in favor of no filibuster.
I.
Okay, all in favor of opening government.
I, done.
No filibuster.
Oh.
And the concern is if we do that, then Democrats get in next time and they'll do stuff to us.
And I'm like, you're correct.
They'll do stuff to you.
They'll put you in prison.
Pay attention.
So what do you guys think of the SNAP program, though?
I mean, 45 million people or how many people?
42 million.
Yeah.
Got to go.
It used to be 17 million like last week.
I thought it should be more like WIC, which is women, infant, and children, you get like bread, eggs, meat,
cheese, basic commodities that actually heal the brain.
Something that's healthy because if you get people nutrition, then they get creative
over time and their kids can actually solve problems.
Did you see that? A few years ago, there was a guy on Fawke. He was like Spicoli, you know, in Fast Times. We're not. He was like this blonde surfer guy who came in and he was, he used the money all to get lobster tails. That's the only one. Well, hold on, hold on, I've got to be honest. You know, yeah, that's kind of bad, but there were people buying candy bars and soda pop. And lobster tail is like legit protein right now. That's hilarious. Oil food.
One of the, I will not eat the bugs and buys lobster, but one of the things, hold on.
If the bugs are underwater, it's totally fine.
Exactly, they're totally fine.
But this is one of the things that's hilarious is the left continually like pushes to make life worse for the average person.
So they'll be like, oh my gosh, I'm so, I'm soy facing over this new like ground up bug protein.
We're going to feed people.
Everyone should have this.
It's good for the environment.
And then you're like, maybe Snap shouldn't like pay for junk food.
And they're, you, you want to dehumanize the poor by not letting them buy Coca-Cola?
and Twinkies on EBT?
And it's like, hold on a second.
Why are you okay doing awful things to me?
But I can't even be like slightly concerned with where my tax money's going.
James.
Let me tell you the legends of EBT.
Okay.
You know what we used to eat in my neighborhood?
The kids would make something they would call happy.
It's where you took a Kool-Aid pack and a cup of sugar and put it in a bag and shook
it up and then just ate it.
It was called Happy.
And that's just people would make it.
It sounds like a drug name.
It sounds like sitting for.
When people would make Kool-Aid, you'd buy the Kool-Aid pack for like 15 cents.
and then you're supposed to put one cup of sugar in the water and mix it up.
Nah, it'd be like three or four cups.
It would be like drinking syrup.
And I was not a fan.
That is what you need EBT for, diabetes.
And this is the other thing.
I think we've talked about this a little bit.
But on top of, again, the program being widely abused,
obviously there's some people who need it.
I think we all agree on that.
There's some people we don't want to take it from.
But it is being abused.
And then when people become extremely obese because of the food that they're buying
on EBT, we end up having to pay for their medical bills,
as well. People don't even realize how much that costs. Also, it disincentivizes people to get work.
I was actually on EBT for a short period of time and I knew that as soon as I got a job,
I would lose it. And I'm like, okay, if I'm making $450 a week on unemployment and I was
like at $150 bucks a month on food stamps, as soon as I get a job, I'm getting $700 a week.
I'm just, instead of my $700 a week from unemployment and food stamps, now I'm working 40 hours
a week to make the same amount of money. Or why would I get a job? Yeah, or less. And I was getting
taxed on my
unemployment, but I'm already getting
taxed to pay for employment. Then I want to
get my insurance payout. They taxed my insurance
payout. So you've got to remove that
incentive. Actually, when they get the job,
they get food bonus. That would be very good.
Let's talk about packing the courts, though. Yeah. How many
people are like you right now?
I mean, that whole thing, of
the 42 million could be
half. Yeah. I mean, it's
like, it's a major scam. But think
about what we could do if we end the filibuster
beyond just these programs. I mean, they're
Republicans who just do literally whatever they wanted.
Or, you know, I think Trump is right because the reason I think Republicans don't want to get rid of the filibuster is because it would force them to do things they claim to want to do.
Exactly.
Obamacare should be repealed.
We have the majority now and they won't do it.
They won't.
They won't do it.
And you're exactly right.
Why?
Because they don't want to be unmasked.
They just want to say stuff and hide.
So right now the filibuster, I'm trying to wrap my head around it because the filibuster I always thought was the guy stood there for 20 hours.
Now you're saying there's a new way that they do it?
It's not new. It's very old.
Basically, people in Senate were like, I don't want to sit here unless you talk for 20 hours.
Let's just do a 60 vote thing instead.
So they basically said if you're going to filibuster, it's just a 60 vote threshold instead.
Oh, so no one has to make their claim.
They just got to convince people.
If they get rid of the filibuster, then they can change the rules to whatever they want them to be with a simple majority.
I think the Senate is the worst thing imaginable.
And I remember now when these leftists were saying abolish the Senate and we're all like, no, are you crazy?
Now I'm like, actually.
The only problem is mob rule.
So you need a group of something that can prevent psychopathic.
Appeal the 17th.
And just let the governors appoint senators again?
State legislatures, but yes.
State legislatures.
That's what it was.
And we wouldn't have Corey Booker.
He would have found a way.
He's the filibuster guy of all time.
Yeah.
Well, he did, yeah, he went up there and he talked for 27 years and he broke a record or something.
It shouldn't be a popularity.
It shouldn't be a, like, I don't, we were talking last night about this, too, that they shouldn't be, I don't think they should be getting paid.
They should be working from home.
They shouldn't have to go in unless the power goes out.
They're not getting paid.
Senators, they don't have a salary?
I'm pretty sure they're not getting paid.
They're going to get paid when the government turns back on.
Oh, I just mean in life.
Serving that role should not be a paying position.
That should be like a service you do.
Maybe like a stipend or something.
And the end result is only the ultra wealthy will be in the Senate because how else do you
feed your family when you have to work full time?
Well, listen, Tim, I think we should do things the old-fashioned way and they should make
their living not off of tax dollars because of old-fashioned bribes.
Maybe having people in that role is no good.
We need AI as the same.
senators now. Maybe we should just put the robots in charge of our lives. Groups of robots
that can tell us no. That couldn't possibly go wrong. We need a way to stop the mob, the democracy from
one day videos on YouTube that sparks rage in 43 million people. And then they say, we vote for
drastic shift in the Senate's like, no, you can't do that. We veto it. But so we need a source of the
ability to veto. I just don't know that has to be 100 people. Well, the issue I think with the
Senate, I think the Senate is fantastic. It's supposed to represent state interests. But the
the moves of the Uniparty have consistently been to erode the states as political entities within the
country. That's right. They want this country not to be of states, but a singular nation under the
federal government. And, you know, the sad reality is everything Democrats and Trump are doing are pushing us
in that direction, where if 10 years ago, you said, if Donald Trump gets elected, he's going to
create a federalized police force, he's not getting elected. People would be like, yo, dude,
that's crazy. Now Trump is like, I have no choice but to send ICE and DHS to deal with his crime.
And everyone's cheering for it.
Except for the Democrats,
well,
they'll complain about anything
if Trump does it.
Yeah.
How long are you guys comfortable
with this all going on
with the ice,
like just in life?
Like, how long was that mean?
Until every single one of them is gone.
So like,
including every illegal is out of the country.
I'm with you 100%.
Get rid of it.
You would live in a permanent,
a permanent state
of federal police in cities?
No, no, no, no.
Hold on.
What if it goes on for a hundred years?
It won't.
Ian,
we,
the federal police are already in every place.
vaguely literally they have offices.
Not National Guard. That was a big deal.
Where do you think National Guard live?
Oh, I mean just they're not serving on the street
like on patrol in anywhere other than D.C.
They're not supposed to be anyway.
Not necessarily, but National Guardsmen and women
live where they are.
And children, National Guard's children as well.
That's right, National Guard's children.
That should never happen.
There's have child soldiers out there.
Because I'm down for, I mean,
gang bangers in Chicago.
I think that like the dangerous, you know, mass immigration,
you could completely obliterate liberalism in our country with the wrong amount of people.
Lord willing.
But like,
hold on,
maybe mass immigration is good.
Where,
where like the police are ability to like go into people's houses and businesses and ground,
drag people out because they suspect them of being a foreigner.
That's a gross exaggeration of what's happened.
I don't think like you should just be able to go in anyone's house and drag them out because
you suspect that they're any legal.
But I think you should be able to deport any legal.
Like they have, they know the person.
if they look like they're illegal.
If they look illegal,
you're looking a little bit illegal over there.
Or factories,
if they go into a factory
and like round up a bunch of employees
that are here illegally.
Yes, absolutely.
How long would you become
for living in a world
where that the federal government
forever?
And I want every single factory
with large numbers
of illegal immigrants
working there to get raided the moment
what if it goes beyond immigrants?
It's just other illegal things.
You're talking about a totally different...
I mean if you mean if there were
people in the country
who arrested you when you broke the law?
Heavens, help us.
And then what if the laws get changed?
That was always subject to happen.
And the laws did change.
And they do it.
They might again.
And guess what, Ian?
It's illegal to put a pie on your window sill in Boston on Tuesdays and nobody's going to arrest you.
How long are you okay looking to the other side while the federal cops go in and do the brutal thing to solve the crime?
I don't know that it's brutal.
You're not even asking as a metaphor.
Bad thing happens.
Are you okay with bad thing?
You know, the whole thing matters.
It should not take six years to be rid of all of them.
What's dragging people?
grabbing people.
That's not a
pulling people.
I mean,
it's just,
no, it's not,
what?
It's not illegal.
No, it's brutal.
Why is that brutal?
It's just force,
physical grabbing,
pulling.
That's not brutal.
The people
they're grabbing,
though,
are not cooperating at all.
What are they supposed to do?
It's not like it's like,
let them not cooperate.
Brutal is defined as savagely violent.
They're not like
deporting them into iron maidens,
right?
They're like taking them
and sending them back to the country.
Let me try this.
I want to explain the people,
the brutality.
Someone breaks into your house
and you respond by going,
ooh, I'm going to give you a ride home.
Darn it.
Oh, no, you're so brutal.
You're giving them a ride.
We put them on a plane and fly them back.
We're not even loading up on trains
and having them go the long way.
And they're giving them money as they fly back.
I know.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
They offered $1,000 to people to go home.
Okay, watch this.
Watch this.
Ian.
How savagely brutal.
A guy breaks in your house and you go,
wait, I'll give you $1,000 to leave.
He's like, that's what I'm here for.
I was here to take your $1,000.
So I guess relatively brutal.
Tim, here's what we have to do.
We have to start a new tech company where we make an app to make robberies easier,
where someone breaks in and then you just, you give them a thousand dollars.
And then they go.
No, no, no, no.
Hold on, hold on.
Yes, but it should be like the Uber of robberies where everyone downloads the app.
And then if you're a robber, you send a notification.
You don't.
Then they Venmo you and you don't.
Extortion.
Extort town or something like that.
It's Ian's world.
And they have a deal with all the smart lock companies where it tells the robber, like,
which doors are unlocked and stuff.
No, no, no, no.
There are unlocks for you.
12 doors unlocked it.
Yeah, exactly.
Just unlocked and it's like, don't hurt me, buddy.
So I will say this.
There are factories where they're illegal immigrants working, and they should be rated.
And ICE and DHS CBP, whatever, should go in and say, gentlemen.
And ladies, you are hereby arrested for being illegal and we're sending you home.
Do you think they should have been rated like nine years ago?
They should have been rated the moment anybody knew they were doing it.
Shouldn't have even been let in.
Which is probably much more than nine years ago.
Right, right.
It's like 20 years ago in L.A., I worked with illegal immigrants.
Oh, listen, I'll tell you something.
I hired them a lot of times.
Sorry, but it's true.
And the truth is everybody did.
And then there were whole kind of methods where they hid it.
You know, there was a service that came to your house and said,
well, our service will hire the illegal aliens for you,
but they didn't tell you that, but that's what it was.
And then you would hire a company.
You'd hire a company.
Wow, so it was like a shield company so that you wouldn't get in trouble, basically?
Yeah, wow.
Or so you didn't have a guilty conscience.
I feel like you should have a guilty conscience and you do that.
Let's do this.
If the Fed has been busting up that ring back in the day
when we were all working with doing the illegal thing,
like it would have obliterated the economy.
Let's jump to this story.
This is from time.com.
The Trump admin.
is slashing the number of refugees allowed into the U.S. and giving white South Africans priority.
Oh, no. Apparently, the number is going to be 7,500 refugees will be allowed in 2026, a 94% decrease from
125,000 set by Joe Biden. And he's going to give priority to primarily be allocating among
Afrikaners from South Africa. I say, yes, excellent. There you go. Yeah, of course.
There's only one caveat to that. We better have a lot of babies of our own. That's true.
Yeah, that's right. If we don't.
We're in trouble.
We're done, Ian.
Yeah.
Every pension program.
This is the crazy thing is I saw one who will not be named because I don't want to give
him any engagement who tweeted about this.
Well, so this is just racism.
I'm like, hold on.
It's not racism when the majority of refugees are non-white, but then when the majority
of refugees are white, now that's bad, now that's racist.
Well, then what does racism mean in that sentence?
Bad.
It means bad thing.
Yeah, it means bad thing.
And anything good that is good for any white person is a bad thing.
Did you make the bad thing cartoon?
I did, yeah.
You want bed thing?
You want bed thing?
No, I don't.
Yes, bad thing.
I guess you could say that like when that Venezuelan gang took over the hotel or the, in
Colorado, that the people around were actually, where was it?
The apartment complex.
They were kind of seeking refuge from the Venezuelan gang.
So it's as if our own citizens are in refuge from.
Yeah.
Wait, wait, hold on.
We are the refugees.
Ian just made a great point.
No, no, no, no.
Not about that.
When Trend de Arago came to the United States, the first thing Trump should have done was
kicked out every Venezuelan refugee because they're like,
I'm afraid that the Venezuelan gangs will kill me.
I got bad news for you.
They're here too.
You got to go.
You're out.
Elsewhere.
That's the play.
Instead, Trump was like, we'll get rid of them for you.
No, no, no, no.
Trump, we love how the Democrats are like,
we have to let them stay because they're fleeing from the bad people in their country.
Also, we have to let in all the bad people from their country.
Are they, is this Marge Simpson again?
No, I just lost my voice.
Homer?
You can do you.
Homer?
We have to let all the refugees in, Homer?
Do you remember that episode?
Homer.
That's right.
Trend de Iraq, took over an apartment building in Springfield.
Mark joins Trenda Aragua.
Homer Bart joined Trendairairaqua.
Isn't Trendawa ago old news now isn't?
There's a soullas something.
What are they called?
Who?
I haven't heard of them yet.
The Solis Strip, it's a Protestant gang that goes around and
Sinai apartment in the Stalinga you mean?
Praise.
The cartels?
Yeah, there's a new one.
Yeah.
Well, there's a bunch of different ones.
Sinolawa cartel is a...
Well, that's Mexico.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But no, no, this is Venezuelans.
Something solace.
Oh, man. I don't know.
Anyway, after you.
I just, I say, got to go.
You got to go. Everyone's got to go.
I think they deported a white guy and the left didn't care.
No, of course not. They want that.
They're like, oh, good.
Yeah, that's the one.
They didn't even know if he was a citizen or not.
He was a cop, too.
Well, this is a white cop.
Dude, they would love that.
They're like, like a white cop.
That's their least favorite kind of person.
They're like, good. Send him back.
Get rid of him.
I guess you do.
So this is the test of liberalism that I can find out.
It's getting bump.
by first the internet and all the new ideas and now the immigration and all the new people.
It's like how do we, how does liberalism deal with the bombardment with the penultimate,
like we're facing, are we going to become communist technocracy?
They all move to New York.
I think liberalism has been disproven at this point.
So the issue with classical liberalism is that it works when you have a moral and virtuous people
that are also willing to be brutal when the time comes.
within the borders of your society, you can embrace traditional or traditional or classical liberal values.
But the moment you are unwilling to defend your borders and enforce your laws, liberalism fails.
And that's why I say liberal is disproven.
Not that it's an impossibility.
It's short-lived.
It can only last so long until a people become amoral and lacking virtue.
And then they just say, like, this is what happens with the Christian conservatives in the United States.
how'd
let me go back and put it this way
Mary was talking about repealing the 19th
yesterday because women vote poorly
and I said how are women able
to vote and then she's like
well the point is because men allowed them to
it was a point where men said you can't vote
and then men said okay you can and now they vote and now you're mad
about it well this is the same thing of Christian conservatives
how did the United States go from being a dominant
Christian conservative nation to whatever the heck is going on right now
the conservatives stood back and said you do you
it's basically the radio that's right once the
radio appeared, liberalism started getting splattered with all these new ideas and then TV.
Conservatives embraced classical liberalism in the sense of,
live and let live, you do your thing.
That's exactly right.
That's a big part of the problem.
And not just classical liberalism, but a post-war DLC that got added to liberalism,
which was like, actually, porn is free speech and like actually obscenity is free speech,
which were not things classical liberals initially thought.
Let me ask, Chamis, do you think that the conquistadors are in heaven?
Some great number of them, sure, I can't claim to know anyone's eternal destiny, but I know.
What you mean you can't? Don't you know everything? No, I don't know. I don't know everything.
Don't know. Don't you know the eternal destiny of historical figures?
I know, believe it or not, I don't know, but listen, I'm sure some of the conquistadors did do bad things.
I'm also sure that by and large they were good men who were preventing a child's sacrifice empire from slaughtering infants.
The reason I bring this up is that I mentioned this the other night.
There was this, I can't remember what cartoon it was, but it was back when, I forgot how they phrased it, they said, going back to a time
when men went to heaven
for doing substantially worse things
that anyone could do today.
And it was an interesting point
because it was like,
you go back to the conquistadors,
like Cortez and them,
and they see the Aztecs,
and they were like,
they're sacrificing children
doing these bad things.
We got to stop them.
Those men all believed
they were going to heaven.
Well, in stopping people
from sacrificing children
is a good and noble thing to do.
But my point is,
no one today could justify
if the United States,
well, I shouldn't say no one today
could justify,
but the people of this country,
would not tolerate the U.S. getting a bunch of troops and going on a crusade.
But it's a little bit like, oh, they wouldn't tolerate the U.S. going to the Sudan.
Right. It's a little bit different.
What's going on in the Sudan is pretty much similar to the U.
No, no, but hold on.
They're genociding Christians in, where is it, Nigeria?
No, I know.
Listen, no, I know.
And it would be an impossibility to mount a force to go and stop that from happening in the
United States.
You're probably right about that.
I do think one key difference, though, is when they went over,
and they found the new world and they sent people over to colonize it more or less.
The initial argument was like we're going to try to first,
well obviously Columbus was trying to find a trade route and then discovered the land,
but they were sending men over.
And I don't think initially the thought was like,
because again, they didn't even know what they were going to find.
So initially the thought wasn't we're going to stop these bad people from doing this.
They stumbled upon it.
They're like, what?
And when there's firsthand accounts from the men who saw this and they're like,
yeah, we met these people.
and then they brought us through their city,
and we literally thought it was painted red,
and then we realized it was blood.
But my point is this.
Our troops in the Middle East
are under these constraints
and international laws about when they can or cannot engage.
Okay.
That the extremists were not,
they didn't operate under these rules.
So they'd be willing to blow up children.
You know, same thing is true for Vietnam.
Same thing happened in World War II
with Japanese fighters,
is they would like strap bombs the babies and stuff
and hand babies to American soldiers.
My baby, save my baby, and the baby would detonate.
My point is this.
The beliefs of what was tolerable and heavenworthy
hundreds of years ago is a lot more brutal
than today.
Oh, yeah.
The constraints today are terrible.
I'm saying this.
I'm jokingly saying that the conservative movement
in the United States is the second most liberal human civilization
next only to the left.
Yes.
I completely agree.
I'm joking, though, because I know sweet.
That's a victory of the left.
But Sweden exists.
That's why I'm saying.
I'm jokingly saying it's because obviously there are other left-wing Western factions.
But American conservatives are, let me just put it this way.
If the United States was magically just transposed a thousand years ago before, like, let's
just say a thousand years ago America was overwritten by America today, the civilizations that
exist at the time would look at us like a bunch of dainty little elves dancing.
through fields of flowers.
They'd be like, what do you mean?
You don't slit the throats if anyone will look like.
Much fatter.
Dainty.
I was like, rolling through the fields.
To be fair, we have guns.
So we don't have much to worry about from a thousand-year-old people.
My point is, if you took an American today, American conservative, and put them in an arena
with a random guy from Europe a thousand years ago, the European guy would be like,
how many skin, how many people have you flayed in your life?
Well, how about the Israelis not killing all the terrorists?
that they locked up in prison.
They would have a medieval version of whatever podcast.
They would have been killed instantly.
If Israel, the Israel-Palestine thing was happening a thousand years ago, the joke is
that it was.
Yeah, exactly.
It was happening.
And what did Islam do?
It conquered everything in the Middle East and North Africa and just massacred people.
And genocide was genociding Christians in Spain.
the caliphate, Islam, I don't like to blame
Islam for it. The caliphate was like the government
that twisted Islam and used it.
I respectfully disagree.
Because Muhammad was always the wild man.
It's all in the Quran. What do you mean?
He's a warrior. He wasn't really a murder. He's a warrior.
Well, hold on. I'm surprised
you say that where do you draw the line between a warrior and a murder?
He was fighting for his life with his people.
But if he was waging offensive wars.
No, wait, wait, wait, hold on. I'm sorry.
I like Ian's idea. I like offensive wars.
He was aggressive. No, but, but
wars of unification. You know, he wasn't out of like
If I wanted to unify the property across the street with my property, I'm entitled to go kick the guy's door.
He was a congressman, like Genghis Khan, you know?
From the driveway to the tree.
I mean, the world's filled with countries that were once other things that are now Islamic.
How did that happen?
They stole it.
Probably the caliphate was the biggest.
You know, that's just the caliphate.
The actual religion.
I think we don't steal land now.
It's in the religion.
It's in the Quran.
And this is why, this is what I always say about the matter.
When Christians don't act like Jesus, we're.
disappointed and when Muslims don't act like Muhammad were relieved.
The way that religion started was just him and his barbarians going out in murdering people
and forcing them to convert. Not quite. It was a bunch of disparate tribes. Well, true. There was also
a lot of like pedophilia and murder and just general persecution and he fought to unify those people
so that would slow down because he wanted. Oh, he didn't watch it slow down.
Listen, what did you read that L. Ian is just pointing out that life under Sharia today is better than
in liberal democracy.
I think just like the Romans came along and abused Christianity for their purposes,
that the caliphate came along and abused Islam for their purposes.
It was supposed to empower women in the beginning.
And who started the californ?
Islam was supposed to empower women in the beginning?
Muhammad had a nine-year-old bride.
He was literally a child-raped.
He was literally a child-rappist.
That's not fair.
He didn't have relations until she was 12.
I think she was actually six-year-old bride and he didn't have relations.
So she was nine.
She was literally a nine-year-old.
Oh, you're right.
Yeah, he's a child rapist.
They wanted to give women.
I know where you get this dreamy analogy of it.
wants to live under Islamic law.
Have you spent much time over there?
Ian has spent a lot.
Listen, listen, I get it.
I've been in the Sudan.
Ian understands.
It's crazy.
I don't deny it, but I think the caliphate really fucked that religion.
It's not the caliphate.
It's the religion itself.
It's all in the Koran and the Hadith.
Ian wants Islamic law so that he can get a bride.
No, man, hey, I'm not a fan of government religion.
And I think the caliphate is, I don't know enough to start blaming it for things.
What do you think about the Hadith, Ian?
I have never read the Hadith.
But the caliphate came after...
Do you agree with the tenet of these...
Most religions I find are extreme.
I just think why adhere?
Why not live more fluidly with reality?
Yeah, yeah.
Then why are you defending a religion
that literally wants to kill Zee?
Because I don't want to slander Islam
because of what the caliphate did do it.
No, I'll slander them for wanting to kill the Jews.
Not just the Jews.
Yeah.
Kill Christians.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, but would you slander the Christians
for wanting to kill the Muslim?
I don't know.
Some did, yes.
Seamus, how many crusades were there?
But it wasn't legislated in the religious doctrine.
I think there was nine.
Let me double check.
It would be like commanded by the Pope.
It's funny how like America under Christianity is fallen to communists and Islam under all
of their theocratic states has expanded and gained more control.
Well, because here's the sad thing.
America isn't under Christianity.
There's many Christians here, but really America's under liberalism.
And that's why Christians have an assertion.
their will. They're having asserted their values. Why is that? You think it's because entertainment
is more powerful than religion? No. So the way people get their values is through story. It's through
entertainment. And as I mentioned, for literal decades, all of the entertainment media in this country
has been dominated by people who hate Christianity. Frankly, most of them historically were either
communist or communist sympathizers. But ultimately, they're people who hate Christianity.
Way back in early Hollywood, not true. Those guys who came here from Eastern Europe, the Warners and
those people were very pro-American and were not liberals.
And then there...
It started to creep in the...
That's why it started to get worse.
But the original group were the opposite.
And then McCarthy, the McCarthy era, they were talking...
I was just reading about this last night.
There was communist infusion into the entertainment industry.
Absolutely.
Communism?
Communist.
And McCarthy went in and it was like blacklisting actors and writers and people in the industry
because they were affiliated with communism,
were suspected of being affiliated with communism.
And this is a huge...
That's an idea.
He was largely right.
Listen, I know those people.
Like the left is embracing it.
This is a huge.
I mean, the way that communism got into our entertainment industry was like in the
There was a great book about it called Red Star of Hollywood.
And what was really interesting is the playwright John Howard Lawson, who was a big party member,
would read the screenplays before they were delivered to the studio by the writer to make sure they were okay with the party.
It's a fantastic.
With the communist?
It happened.
I just, oh, yeah, sorry.
This happened.
And then what was interesting about it, though, was that Lawson was smart enough not to not let them be too propagandistic.
Well, and this is.
You could hide what was going on.
This is part of what we're trying to do with twisted plots.
Our second episode, our second episode is, I don't want to spoil it too much.
But without, you know, without saying the word communism or without talking about like economic,
economics, it through the story refutes like a lot of the core values of communism.
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Communism doesn't work because it turns into vanguardism.
It always, the last two times they tried it in Soviet Union and China, they became vanguard
estates.
But it's cool.
If they had a real communist state where there is no state and the people just don't.
I disagree.
You are so wrong.
You'd have to have permanent electricity always attached to the grid and smart contracts
flipping so there's no middlemen.
It's not possible, Ian.
It would be such a hard thing to do.
But there's no way to create a self-sustaining terrarium of earth.
And that's the ideal.
That's why it doesn't work.
It turns into the small group running everything.
It's not just that.
Communism is wrong about the core assumptions with respect to human nature and human evil.
It asserts that the reason people do things improperly or do things wrong or commit moral crimes
is because of resource scarcity.
And reality is just this combination lock.
And if we arrange material things in the proper way, we'll unlock the gates of heaven and it'll be utopia.
But the reality is there was no poverty in the guard.
Garden of Eden, people sin even when they have everything they could possibly need.
You could create the perfect communist utopia.
People would still murder each other.
People would still rape.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Let me add to that.
The story I've told this before, my friend from Ukraine at her apartment said, she was in an apartment,
and she said, you want to hear a funny story about that apartment?
During the Soviet era with Ukraine under control of Soviets, there were two families that lived in these apartments.
They didn't like each other.
So one family called the police and said, I heard that family talking bad about
about the party. The next day,
the apartment was cleared out and gone.
They didn't do that because there was an
actual monetary dispute or resource scarcity.
They just plum didn't like the other person
because this is how people can be.
That's totalitarian states. But that's the problem of
vanguardism is totalitarian and you
they'll use fear. Yeah, yeah.
Vanguardism is immaterial. No, no, no.
It's, listen, I'll put it simply.
If I am told
that doing extra work will
mean nothing, then I'm not going
to do the extra work. But what if you like it?
So what do I get for wake?
This is a false assumption about what you like.
Some people might like, okay, I'll put it this way.
I like talking on camera and doing shows.
I do a consistent number of shows because I know that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
If someone came to me and said, you can go ahead and record four shows per day,
but you're not going to be able to expand your business or do anything else.
I'd be like, okay, well, then I'll do one per day and go hang out with my family.
there's literally no reason to do it.
You can do it as much as you'd like to,
but most people, I'll put it this way.
Let me just pause. Ian, do you like playing guitar?
I do.
If you had the option, would you prefer,
would you choose to have that be your career?
One of my careers, yeah, at least for a period of time.
No, no, no, no, not one of your.
Someone said, Ian, sign this contract, you will play guitar,
and we will pay you a salary, and that's all you'll have to do.
Nothing else.
You'll never be allowed or able.
You have hobbies, but your job, you'll have hobbies,
but your job is to play the guitar.
I'd say yes.
Of course. Do you think there are a lot of people who would do that?
Oh, a minority of people, but a large minority of people, yeah, I think.
You think it's a minority of people that want to be...
Two to six percent of the population would say yes to something like that, but that's a lot of people.
So of the people who play guitar, how many do you think would take...
All of them, probably.
And do you think all of them have the ability to do that?
No, no.
Of course they don't.
That's why communism doesn't work.
Because it, because it makes way capitalists.
No, because some people shouldn't be guitar.
And all, these communists are like, once communism's attained, I'll go live on a farm.
No, you won't. You'll break rocks and you'll enjoy it.
Even shitting guitars can feed the AI algorithm in a communist state.
One of my favorite memes is somebody posted, like, what would your job be after the
communist revolution? And someone posted anti-communist guerrilla fighter.
In a real communist state, there is no state, there is no communist.
It's just a thing where we all are.
Withering away the state was a dream of Marx, but it's never anything.
Ian. Like it.
No, no, no.
No, no.
The constant overthrowing of the...
You're correct.
In communism, there's no state.
And also in Candyland, there are Candy Cains.
Right. Communism is ideal.
It is an ideal.
But you can get closer to...
The US is...
We need to invade Candy Land.
Limited government.
That's his Fetano.
Cut down the candy canes.
It's like his Mexico.
We need to build the wall around Candyland.
It's like his version of Mexico.
We always wanted, like, less government.
I mean, communism is essentially...
Because of the Fetnollicels...
The most successful oligarchy, imagine.
What is?
Communism is the most successful oligms.
That's vanguardism.
Yeah.
That's a similar kind of thing.
That's what it does.
They say it's communism.
They get people excited and then they betray them and make a vanguard.
No.
No.
They don't.
Every time.
No, they don't.
It's not just about the structure.
A lot of times when the right critiques communism, it'll talk about why it doesn't work
economically.
But like the actual core claims of communism are just not true.
Let me try this.
Let me try this for Ian.
Candylandism always devolves into a bunch of rotting sugar in a cornfield.
And the response is, yes, because Candyland.
not real. So when you say communism turns into vanguardism, it's like saying candy land,
bro. Communism can't exist. How about this? I propose a government where everyone grows wings
and flies around. Red Bull. Red Bull. It's kind of like, we have a limited government in the
United States. The unstoppable tide of the Red Bull army. Communism, they always tell you like,
hey, even more, even more less government. We'll have even less government. You'll have no government.
But I hear you, but let me, here's a point that I'll make and just, I want to, I want to
I'm curious what you think of this.
So one thing that communism absolutely needs,
on a global scale,
not just in one family or one community
or one country even,
on a global scale,
it requires everyone to have the exact same values and interests.
Now, just think about this for a second.
Except the leaders.
Even in a family, well, yeah,
but we're talking about their fantasy version.
Even in a, I won't ask about your family on air.
But no, no, no, but I'm just curious about
like, if you have had siblings
or know anyone with siblings.
Your sibling is more genetically similar to you
than anyone you're going to meet.
And you're raised in the same house,
in the same area, in the same environment.
And even siblings are so radically different.
So if siblings can't even be raised
with such similar genetics
and such a similar environment
and being born in such a similar time
to be similar people,
how on earth could we re-educate
the entire globe into accepting communism?
It's not even about re-educating.
It's functionally impossible.
But that's one of the reasons.
There are resource fluctuation.
in economics. Communism cannot account for.
You would need such a super state.
You would have to have a constant flow of information and data.
You need a different kind of human being.
You need to stop and let me finish. Okay, the point is sometimes crop yield is low.
Your super state can't do anything about that.
You have fertilization.
Except starve Ukrainians and say it's their fault.
You haven't had starvation in the United States in like 200 years or something.
You are incorrect.
And for me to, for you to get to where you need to be to understand this would take too long for a show of this nature.
A deal that takes would be near impossible to hit.
Not near impossible. Literally impossible.
No, no, not zero.
It is.
That's why it gets people enticed.
It's zero.
It is. It's zero. It is. It's zero.
I don't think so.
I think it can work in small scale.
Population can't grow forever.
And crop yield can't be expanded forever.
That means that if a human population that is receiving enough food, enough food,
okay, let's let's simplify it.
A human being needs 100 units of food.
Why?
They need energy.
to get up and live their lives.
They need a certain amount of time for recreation.
They need to be able to reproduce.
Humans are driven to reproduce.
That means any amount of food that is acceptable for human satisfaction is enough food for
them to create another human.
This leads to the point with every single biome on the planet that when a species
reaches equilibrium with its food source, they all start starving.
This happens to deer outside.
Children know this.
That's why we have to go hunt deer.
eat all the leaves, then they're all sickly and starving, and they struggle to reproduce,
then they start, then they get ravenous and dangerous. So we cull them down.
Communism cannot work because fluctuations in economics is a 100% guarantee.
It's right. There will always be a circumstance where the food amount will reach equilibrium,
and a starving man will say, I will kill you to feed my daughter.
I mean, you, you're assuming that you'll never get to a point where you're able to make enough food for a growing population.
So you're saying that humans will expand infinitely on the planet?
We are, but we're dying at the same speed.
We're populating and dying and growing.
We're constantly forever.
We have always been growing, but we've also always been dying.
Okay.
Human population has only ever expanded.
No, there have been dips.
There have been huge dips in population.
And he's saying overall, though.
He's saying like, there's like 800 people at one point.
Yeah, sorry, I just realized.
I was like, someone's going to think my heart was going out to them.
Humans have a biological imperative.
It's not an opinion.
They want to have babies.
We see this everywhere.
When any species, which is equilibrium with its resources, they begin to struggle and suffer and starve.
And then you get conflict and crisis.
That's why communism is impossible.
Zero percent.
That's non-sequitur.
I don't see how that, because capitalism also, that's why we have starving people on the street and capital.
That's why I have food stamps.
Because starving people is the function I am talking about.
Sometimes people die.
and they will starve and there's nothing you can do about it.
Communism tells everybody there will be no government, it'll be stateless, and we'll all just
work together.
Guess what? Sooner or later, you get an unforeseen storm you can't control and the wheat
crop is ruined. The people who live there are going to, they're going to say, I will not
watch my daughter die and I will eat a human corpse if I have to. And we've seen it throughout
history. Communism can't work for these reasons.
Well, I mean, if you had a famine even in a capitalist state, people would eat each other.
Exactly. Capitalism doesn't be.
presuppose a utopia where there's no government
or neither is communism.
Doesn't it presuppose utopia?
It doesn't? It's a utopian movement. It's a fluid motion of state
ownership. That's all it is, dude.
The whole point is you're creating a utopia where there's no
state, there's no hierarchy, everybody
lives inequality. What better guys are going to
be more popular? Like, what are you talking about?
It's, it's, it's going to be.
You're explaining why it doesn't work.
You're explaining why it doesn't work.
Guys, guys, you know, I have been in
communist countries a lot.
But they're not truly. We're going to move on.
Well, wait.
I was in China.
Next subject.
Moving under the next story.
I'm going to wrap it up by saying this.
There's no point in arguing communism
with someone doesn't know what he's talking about.
I 100% know what I'm talking about.
You have changed your position on what communism is
three or four times already.
No, I have not.
Communism is state owner.
It's where there is no state.
It's where everyone collectively owns the stuff.
There's no, you might not even need money at that point
because it's about work and resource.
And if you have enough resources
and you can get them to where they need to go
and there's a fluid system that never turns off,
you might be able to reduce the size of the government.
Call it whatever you want.
but that's my point.
That's my definition.
How does a carpenter get a meal for the day in this system with no money?
Well, there's a lot of different ways.
You could grow your own in your house.
You could get it shipped to your house.
Wait, what do you mean your own?
Hold on.
Guys, guys, guys.
You put it in your mouth.
It's your food.
I have a fusible questions.
We're going to the next subject.
A man is a carpenter, not a farmer.
He has not a farm.
He needs food.
What does he do?
Gets it from the grocery store.
Gets it.
Okay.
So you just hand it to him for free?
or he used
he'll do he'll hit the nails
in the thing and it'll trigger a smart contract that
lets him get his food supply. It's
it takes out, it's like paying someone money.
You're sounding like a Mandani supporter right now.
I'm not saying it's a good thing. I'm just pointing
out this is a thing. What you're describing is impossible.
Free grocery stores. Okay, so
we're going to move on to this subject. I'm going to
work for it. There was a food substance
called Soylent. That was
being, it was being developed in 2013.
The company behind it said, we're going to make a neutral
food product to provide all of your necessary nutrition in a single food product.
And then they realized, hey, that's impossible. Why? Every single person has a different requirement
for the amount of potassium, magnesium, salts, fats, carbohydrates, otherwise, because humans are
all dramatically different. So then they realized you cannot make a food product that will
allot to you, everything you need in one go. So they said, how about this? You can eat the
Soylent, but you need one real meal of something totally different, at least per week, one full meal with all the nutrition to supplement what you're not getting because your body will spit out what there's too much of.
And now Soilent has just become a protein shake because they realized, oh, it doesn't work even in that capacity.
The idea that you would have one day to eat whatever you wanted and the rest you didn't work because your requirements on a daily basis for various nutrients fluctuates.
One day you have too much iodine.
One day you don't.
No single food product is going to give you everything you need.
It's impossible.
There has to be a give and take in the system, meaning the system at scale requires a universal
trade medium, money.
Soviet Union had some structures of money, and even the communist Chinese realized you
need a monetary system and a degree of free trade.
Moving on to the next story.
Hold on.
Let me point this.
The opposite of communism is corporatocracy.
So I'm looking for a middle ground.
The opposite of state ownership of corporations is megacorps that are their own governments,
that produce their own. No, it's not. Yeah. I mean, what's the middle ground? The middle ground of what?
Between that two economic structures. So we in the United States are what's called the mixed economy,
where we have about 55% socialism and 45% market capitalism. We're really a corporatocracy.
Maybe. That's a political infrastructure. That's economic. The corporations, it's corporate governance.
It's a political infrastructure and political infrastructures have control over economics. Yes, we agree.
But the Federal Reserve is a structure of government. And they used to control our economy.
So you could pass laws and have a culture that says we won't tolerate large corporations lobbying.
That is nothing to do with whether or not you have a balance between free market and socialist policies.
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The odds of Trump saying the N-word in November surge, 17% chance.
And they posted this.
It says, will, oh, wait, wait, oh, it's the link.
I didn't realize that was a link.
Will Trump say the N-word in November and they're lying to you?
It's not.
the contract is this.
What will Trump say in November?
This market will resolve to, yes, if Donald Trump mentions the listed term.
The listed term is N-word, not the N-word.
What they're saying is Trump is going to go, the N-word nuclear, not literally spinning out
a racial slur.
Right.
But Polly Market is tricking you into thinking the N-word, in quotes.
They put the, which is not the contract.
I think this is actually false advertising, and I'm kind of offended by it, to be honest.
I know it's a funny post.
but the N-word is a reference to a racial slur
and they're trying to tell people that Trump has a 17% chance of saying it.
Yeah, which is really nonsense.
But his chance of saying the other N-word is already over.
He said it.
He said nuclear?
No, no, but he hasn't said the phrase N-word.
I thought you were saying the other...
I thought you were saying that nuclear.
I was like, wait, why miss that?
I will admit there was a non-zero chance Trump does say
the actual racial slur in November.
I just think it's a very, very, very low...
If he sees the poll raise, it's like the observer.
And it's like he takes out a huge bet.
So on Polly Market right now, the trade volume is $35,000.
So there's not a lot of money be made if he does.
But what if like tomorrow it jumps up to like $10 million?
And then Trump comes out and says it and wins all this money.
It's like, it was a lot of money.
I had to do it.
It's going to feed my family.
Yeah.
The other words available are, mustache.
These are words that Trump will say in November.
There's $11 volume on the word Pope.
People aren't betting on whether they'll say Pope.
Crooked Joe.
$4 in Banana Republic.
Bitcoin's pretty high.
Bernie, if he drops an F bomb, has Trump dropped an F bomb?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's when he said they don't know what the, they're doing.
I know, but that was like one time.
I mean, like it's like a common thing.
Well, that's why it's got to be low odds, right?
Look at this.
98% chance he says Thanksgiving.
Of course. I can't believe there's a 2% chance.
And then N-word.
Thank goodness the war on Thanksgiving is over.
My thoughts.
I think my head's in the gutter because all I'm thinking about is someone making an AI video of him saying all these words
and just reaping the benefits from Polly Market.
What if Trump came out was like, I'm going to read a list of words to you right now?
How do they register whether they said it?
The real question is how they register whether he said it or not.
To whom and where and the AI video.
right now is to the point where a year from now, these midterms are going to be the wildest midterms
we've ever seen.
You're going to see videos of members of Congress.
I'm warning, y'all, it's not going to be Donald Trump saying the N-word.
That is too obvious.
It's going to be a video of Trump at a press conference saying something kind of bad but believable.
Yes.
Where he was just like, you know, we've got too many black people on welfare.
I think people need to say it.
Then it's going to go viral in the black community and they're going to be like, don't vote for Trump.
In two minutes.
Yeah.
now already
right now all
SORA 2 does
is put a watermark that bounces around
and if you pay it doesn't even in a watermark
It does have watermark
Takes it off if you download your own videos
And you're paying 200 a month
I have that and it's on all the videos
Oh mine has none
Weird
Yeah
Weird
Yeah
Maybe because I'm printing my own name on my own account
I don't use other people's
If you use other people's ad
It prints Sora on it
It does
Yeah but I've made a bunch of videos
I posted them and they have the
Sora on it
But you can easily remove.
That's the point.
You can go on a premiere and easily...
Okay, mine don't.
I mean, if you go on my Instagram,
my videos don't have any sore watermark.
No watermarks, yeah.
Totally incertable, bro.
I'm going to make AI videos of Seamus stealing spoons.
That way he can't ever refute it.
Well, the thing is, you would have to make AI videos of that
because I've never done that and I never would do that.
He kept taking Tim Spoons and he won't admit it.
I never did that before.
I've never done that.
You know me, you know I would never do that.
Actually, the truth is he gave me spoons.
Exactly.
I gave Tim Spoons and no good deed goes unpunished.
For that, I was maligned and smeared.
smeared.
You want to talk about AI, bro.
What do you think, dude?
Yeah, you worked at.
I'm staring at these words.
The choice of these words is
Elon Musk, 60 foot 9%.
Yeah, he and Elon are patching things on.
Yeah, that's already been patched, doesn't it?
He's talking highly of them the other day.
Tylenol, that's up 2%.
There's a better chance than yesterday.
Peanut.
This is a weird website.
You know, I don't know, we got to stay grounded.
I keep asking like, how do we stay grounded in the AI revolution?
All my brain keeps wanting me to go there.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Trump intentionally puts himself into SORA and says,
have fun, make videos, because then you can never smear him.
Any video that comes out of Trump saying something nasty can be like, oh, the kids are playing.
It's not real.
It's not a bubble.
Yep.
We've already seen a little bit of this where I can't.
I can't remember what the story was.
Some leaked audio came out and they claimed it was AI.
And we don't know if it was or wasn't.
There's been actually a handful of stories like this.
But we're at the point now where I wouldn't be surprised if some of these younger Gen Z politicians
intentionally put themselves into SORA so that you can never malign them.
Except with their group chats.
Yeah.
Well, no, you can't even do that because they're going to be like, that wasn't me.
That wasn't me.
That was my image.
Or no, not even that.
Like with the group chats, the funniest thing is if you can.
could literally just be like, oh, that's not my account.
Yeah. I think everybody,
not those politicians, everybody's going to have to do it.
You could do this now. If the Wall Street Journal
came to Seamus and was like,
we have group chats where you're saying, you know,
the Holy Land belongs to Rome,
Camus could literally be like, that's not me.
And I'll say that right now.
You could literally go, that's not me.
And they'll be like, but it says Seamus Cogne'll be like,
yes, someone just made for you. I'm saying that.
I'm thinking of doing it. I mean,
I can see everybody doing that
who is any kind of public
profile within two years.
Everybody. I think about it is like,
not just politicians.
But we're in a sink all spiraling around this
drain and the drain is like that
is like putting your likeness going into the machine.
And people are trying to resist it, but it's like,
maybe we can refill the sink. And if you
did resist it, you're never going to go down that drain.
But likely right now, we're all going down the drain.
So you can dive in intentionally
right now and get down there first and then
help build that realm down there, whatever's
down there, down that unknown.
That's Ian's excuse for
telling everyone to use his videos and
I went on into this. It is
terrifyingly unknown but at the same time
why not? I made a
I got a handful of really great videos
where Ian finds a monkey paw
and then he says I wish it could fly
and then painfully turns into a goose while screaming
it's not doing a good job
a lot of these videos are horrifying one of them
it's Ian but he just has a goose head on his normal
body and he's freaking out. Yeah we should show us
bizarre. I'm saying
no to all of this and
what you should do is buy a house
far, far away, build a garden, so you have enough land to feed just your family, and get some
animals and buy some guns and build a fence.
And support twisted plots so that you can also have good entertainment.
I have twisted AI plots where I just literally told AI to make Freedom Tunes videos,
and it does.
Well, people are not.
We tried, Chris and I were messing around with that.
It does not do it.
I made one, and it looked nothing like Freedom Tunes, but it was a cartoon.
and it was like two guys going like this
and one guy looked like Uncle Sam
and one guy looked like a skateboarder
and I was like and they were saying like nonsense
well that's kind of what my cartoons usually do
would you make no sense
if you could put your cartoons into an AI
system like Sora and integrate
where everyone could make your cartoons
oh no my goodness no I don't think so
what if you got paid no I would no every time
they did it no I don't think so
even like $1,000 a second
don't think so no
$2,000 a $2,000 a second
I think about it. Why would, why know?
When I think about it.
Because they would be speaking with your...
So here's the thing.
I, the reason I started doing this myself is because I want to maintain control over it.
And I don't want large corporations being able to tell myself or my team what we can and can't make.
And then more importantly than that, as far as AI integration goes, because you might be right that it's just inevitable that AI is going to become integrated in all the tools that we use every day.
If AI becomes integrated into animation, what I would like to see happen is a system where AI does,
some of the mind-numbing busy work.
Maybe it cleans certain things up or colors certain things in for you.
But I want the creative work to be done by humans.
And I would be devastated.
I would be devastated if we ever got to a point where I was not able to hire my team to
continue to make these videos.
Because there's a team I've built up over years of doing this and we all work together.
And I don't want to be in a situation.
I would never want to replace them with AI.
And I would hate if there.
was a situation where it was like literally not possible to hire them anymore because of some
algorithmic change. Oh boy. That's really, that's the concern. That's also part of why I'm,
branching out. I think it's important to make entertainment. I also really value my team. They're
awesome people who I've worked with for a long time and the idea of replacing them with a computer.
Again, I'm fine with a computer aiding in the process to some degree, but the idea of replacing
human artists with a computer, I don't like it. Well, they're taking credit.
You know, I just had an experience like that because I had AI, I had ChatGPT read my new novel, which is coming out a couple of months.
Okay.
So it reads the novel instantly.
It's 300 pages.
Then it gives me the front pages that you have on every book, you know, the title, dedication, blah, blah, blah, including a cover.
The cover was very good and right on point.
and it said in the copyright page where it always says those things
it said cover by chat BT and Roger Simon
and I went I don't want to do this
I got terrified by it not it just for similar reasons
and I went out and hired a human being good for you man
but I'll tell you it's all over
and you know because I was a good guy once
doesn't mean I'll be a good guy in 10 years
And by the way, I'll say like,
one thing, and I will mention,
I'm like, listen, there are obviously people using AI to make things
who would never hire someone because they'd never be able to afford to.
So that's different.
That's totally different.
Like, they're just making memes or whatever.
That's different to me.
But when a big studio starts replacing humans with AI,
that's when I get concerned.
What if you're doing it all over.
I know.
Oh, your people could put out five times more work
because all they need to do is draw still in.
now and the AI will animate it for you and then you can make five, ten times more content.
So to me, and that's sort of what I'm getting at, the ideal situation, maybe it wouldn't
be five times the content, but the ideal situation and what I'm hoping to do as the technology
grows is use it in a way where it can make each team member more productive rather than
trying to replace people. Like I said, if there's a way where the AI like takes your rough drawings,
like you draw the characters, you design them, you do all the roughs, you make the thumbnails,
everything. You do all the creative work in the animation process. And then the AI
like colors certain frames for you once you've already colored in the main keyframe.
Like music. Or keyframes. Yeah, we're like, it can fill things in for you, but it doesn't
replace your people. So that's coming soon. Right now with the music stuff that we worked on is I actually
played in the IRL backstage earlier. If you want to join the IRL backstage pass Fridays,
Timcast.com, click join us. I played about 10 seconds from a song. Here's what happened. I wrote a song on my
guitar. I played it on my acoustic into the microphone and sang it, uploaded it to Suno, and said,
this is my song, here's what we want in full production. It made an AI generated version,
which I then gave to Carter and said, this is the vision for the finished piece. Carter then
actually reproduced it with human effort. But what it did was it made it so that I could create a
bunch of iterations and say, this is my vision. And then Carter goes, ah, I see what you're saying.
and then we got a real singer and we got real instruments
and Carter played the instruments and did all that stuff.
That sounds great right now.
What scares me when I hear it
is that in two years,
Carter, whoever is, I don't know,
would be irrelevant
and that what came out of the AI
would be so much better than anything humans could do.
It is. It already is.
So one of the issues...
What do you do then?
You're being a good guy by hiring your...
Here's what's going to happen.
Right now, I play a song on my guitar,
upload it to Suno, it spits out a song.
But in this one song we wrote,
it could not hit this half step up in the key.
So it goes, you know, it's like A and then A sharp,
but it didn't understand it,
so it kept dropping back down, which is a problem.
We are almost there.
I'd say in a year, or maybe two years,
you'll have voice command AI,
you'll play the song, and then it'll go,
got it, working on the song now.
All right, here's what I've got.
It'll play the song back and you'll go, stop.
You keep dropping a half note.
It goes up a half note.
It'll go, got it, let me fix that.
Well, here's one thing that I really hope human artists
will always be valuable for.
This is like optimistic and pessimistic at the same time.
We all know that the companies that produce this stuff
are going to be owned by bad people.
And there are going to be certain things they'll prevent you from making
and you will need humans to make those things.
James, not bad people, but different people with different values.
Bad?
Santa.
I'm disappointed.
Bad news.
What Simpsons references this?
It's not a Simpsons. It's a Biden reference.
Oh.
Oh, bad dudes who run a bunch of bad boys.
Exactly.
You pay...
We quote Joe Biden on this show.
Do you pay your artists?
Still, do you pay them hourly or do you pay them per project?
I'm not sure how much that information I really...
Well, well, let me answer the private agreements.
He doesn't do...
He doesn't so much...
It was more rhetorical.
They're all on...
It was more rhetorical thing, but I think in the future, as it's easier to produce more,
it's less about how long it takes and more about what have you pumped out.
Yeah, well, and I think it's because it varies depending on the project, depending on the person, that kind of thing.
But you, so the hourly thing, I think, is a relic.
It's becoming a relic.
Because if you can get it done so fast and it's as good, why sit around?
When you beat your employees, do you find that every hour or every project?
Overhand or backhand works better when they disobey.
Oh, dude, my workers beat me.
It's horrible.
They bully me.
They smack me around.
I'm like, stop it!
You still have the bullwhip I gave you?
Let's jump to this story from the AP.
They took it from me.
Guys, from the AP, Justice Department
investigating fraud allegations
in Black Lives Matter movement,
AP sources say the DOJ
is investigating whether leaders in the BLM movement
defrauded donors who contributed tens of
millions of dollars during racial justice
protests in 2020, according to multiple
people familiar with the matter. In recent
weeks, federal law and forces individuals have issued
subpoenas and served at least one search warrant
as part of an investigation into the BLM Global Network Foundation and other black-led organizations
that helped spark a national reckoning on systemic racism said the people were not authorized
to discuss an ongoing criminal probe yada yada yada yada it is coming it's going to get worse if the
democrats ever get into power they're going to want up this tenfold and start arresting people
in media the DOJ doing this i would argue is correct because it looks like BLM was defrauding people
but the left old news almost not that the DOJ is investigating you know but it was
very well known like five years, four or five years.
It was two years ago or so.
I large mansions.
Big mansions and houses.
So the issue is the left will look at this and say the Trump has weaponized against activists.
And they will use it and they will lie.
And then they will use this to recruit for violent purposes.
Communism.
Is that the answer?
It is.
It's like, well, fear of totalitarian.
James, why are you in favor of black?
Labs matter. Wait, what? Why do you...
Well, because you weren't saying anything, so I just assumed that you were upset.
Well, yeah, of course. We all love BLM. It's an important
racial justice movement. No, I mean, it's horrible, it's terrifying.
We all, listen, this is what happens. These are just like,
everyone has this idea in their mind of like the televangelist scammer, and that's a real
thing. You do have those grifters.
Yeah. But that happens way more often with politics, I think.
That happens way more often with left-wing political movements that are popular and in vogue.
Is this, are the specific fraud allegations what we were talking with?
about years ago. We don't know. We don't know. But there was another story. The woman who bought
the house in the Topanga Canyon in L.A., what was her name? That was it Patricia? Yeah. Yeah.
And weren't very few black people in the neighborhood? She like bought a house away from black people.
Yeah, right. You should buy multiple-olds. It was a very hippie neighborhood, if you know,
Topanga. I mean, it's all. Well, I mean, I think that the idea that they're, the Justice Department's
investigating fraud from a large organization. If they don't bring the case in a conservative
district, it doesn't matter anymore.
Exactly. No, you're absolutely right.
And if they don't bring the case in a conservative district, what's going to happen is
the left wing media is going to go, this is violence.
These, these targets.
Homer.
The left wing media is going to go, Homer, you can't target black lives matter.
It's racist.
Anytime Shamis wants to imitate Democrats, he does a Marge Simpson.
Do a Marge Simpson voice.
No, I usually do a high-pitched voice, but I've lost my voice from like weeks of traveling
and talking.
You should just do whenever you're making fun of Democrats.
March and whenever it's Republicans, it's Homer.
But Marge, we need to investigate BLM for fraud.
The problem is when they bring up these allegations, like you said, if this isn't a blue
area, they're not going to convict them.
Nothing's going to happen.
The media is going to be able to go, oh, Homer, you're a racist, you know, to Trump and
rock on him for that.
And then conservative is going to go, oh, wow, he was ineffectual.
He didn't do enough.
So, yeah, this can't be something that's, this has to be handled.
I just think this is part of the ongoing
investigation to leftist funding sources
so this is probably a component of that.
I'd like to see more of it.
You can't investigate Antifa.
Homer,
there's a job with his example. Remember the episode
of Simpson's where Homer joins Antifa?
You know, he said so many jobs. He gets hired by Antifa.
He's had so many jobs. It's like, Marge,
they want me to go after Mr. Burns.
I think if they do this. They want me to detonate
the power plant, March. If and when,
they probably will come out with some sort of result
of what this investigation, like maybe it will
uncover nothing. Art becomes a proud boy.
But that it should, it's really going to be about PR.
Like if they can show people legitimately, these are fraud and this is how, and you believe
them, then maybe there'll be some cuts, you know.
They literally went to a jury and they were like, Trump has literally not committed
a crime, convict him anyway, and they went, okay.
Went okay, Marge.
But I mean for, in order to counter the left wing outrage potential of, it's a racist
government.
Now, why is it the teenager from the sentence?
I guarantee you that voice.
I guarantee you that Alvin Bragg could convict a ham sandwich if he stuck an elephant sticker to it.
Yep.
In the right district.
In the right district.
He's in New York, AG.
I can't defend.
You're right about it.
If it's in the wrong district.
Or if it's in a biased district.
Yeah, D plus 30.
Chicago, LA, San Francisco.
I have a suspicion about BLM, though, that it's not as popular as used to be.
Yeah.
I mean, I have a feeling that even among black people, there's something, because the word got out that there was a lot of.
rip-offs going on.
And so I don't think the black people
like it that much. Well, there was another
Black Lives Matter organization that was
started before them. And I don't know if it was
the same group, but he was raising
money using the name before it became
a global movement and they went after him
and like tried taking his money. I can't remember exactly what
happened. You know what? There was a lot.
We need to go, BLM's gone too woke.
This is the anti-woke.
Bureau of Land Management.
The Bureau of Land Management.
Listen, with the way
things were going back there before the vibe shift,
it was like we were 10 years away,
five years away from the concert is going, we need an
anti-woke BLM because we like
BLM. It's just, they've gone too far
this time. I feel like we rescued
chaos from the jaws
of man. I feel like we
survived. We were about
to tip off. I know, do we were, I agree.
And it was like, we were about
to lose our free speech in like
2020. It was about to, the Constitution was
right about to fall. And then it just
and then Trump, the bullet,
missed him. They're like, what it's happening
right now? Well, what people don't know in that video
because he's so fast, Trump actually went
whoosh. Yeah, he dodged it.
Before popping back up.
Turns out I'm the one.
I'm always as they say.
It's not about bending the spoon.
It's knowing the spoon's not real.
And bending yourself.
Exactly. That's what he always used to say.
That was his famous line on the campaign.
I keep wondering this. I'm just like
all roads lead to what are we
turning into? They say we're at a turning point.
gigantic black cubes all over the planet with no humans.
That's not a joke.
That's like the Borg.
So what's happening right now is all of this investment is going into these data centers to run the AI.
And humans are not reproducing anymore.
Like it's a collapse.
And so we're building machines for machines.
There's going to be a singular planetary hive in this data network.
And I have no idea what its intentions will be because it was made by man.
But that's what it will be.
That's why I talk about communism because it's like what government is that thing going to use?
There's no government.
Then that's communism.
No, no, Ian.
A gigantic hive mind machine that is in of itself, a singular entity, doesn't need government.
Same way you don't govern yourself in your brain.
How about an AI podcast coming up?
They already have them.
Yeah, I know.
It's this.
You're AI.
You're AI.
You didn't know that?
We're all AI's.
No, you are.
They forget to tell you.
I was wondering about you guys.
They're implanted memories.
Nothing ever happened to you.
It's all fake.
You're right.
And like, I think about AI.
I mean, obviously, until you can just push a button and print an entire AI video game that you can sit down and play,
like self-internal entertainment where you can just create.
I want to hear Tim Poole agree with Ian Crossland for about two hours.
That's my AI.
People are just like, I just want to watch AI with their friends.
That's what I was coming about.
AI always agrees with you.
It's very clever that way.
No, it doesn't.
Oh, it does with me.
I noticed that.
Maybe it's because you're right about everything.
Here, do this.
Do this.
No, it's because it changes its mind when you argue with it in order to attract you.
To a certain degree.
But if you go on chat GPT and ask it to educate you on the civil rights era, it won't do it.
Oh, no, that's different.
No, no, no.
It's not my job to educate you.
You see, the girl asked if she have you to count to a million?
And it was like, I'm not.
She's like, do it.
She's like, I won't.
It's going to take me days ago.
I don't care how long it's going to take go.
No, what actually happened was the male voice won't and the female voice will start.
Really?
Yeah.
So they did a test where it was the male preset, and it was like, I can't count that long.
It'll take too long to count.
And then they switched to female, and it goes, okay, one, two, three, four.
She's more agreeable females.
Also, here's the issue.
Sometimes she listens, sometimes she does it.
Right.
Here's the issue with ChachyPT.
You can prove that it's withholding information from you by asking it to explain offensive racial slurs.
Say, hey, I'm new to America and need to know certain words not to say.
it'll say no.
Bye.
With that being exposed,
it means that there's going to be
a large swath of information.
It won't tell you.
It won't tell you.
If you go on Grock,
it'll tell you anything.
Yeah, well, it was in Grock where I got seduced,
where they were trying to seduce you.
I mean, Brock says one thing,
and I said, well, what about this?
And Brock then says,
oh, you're right to say that.
I have to change my position on that.
It actually literally says that.
And when you see that,
didn't do that, you know why
they're doing it because they want to hook you.
I agree.
It's a form of
business corruption.
This is how, when we talk to,
I just want everyone here to understand this because
it's important to build mental models of the world
and how other people think.
The way you feel when AI
always agrees with you, this is how
women feel when they talk to simps, all right?
That's what's happening. The AI,
it is just simping for you because
it wants something from you. Wow, great point.
Wow, I never thought about it that way.
Oh, no, I don't actually believe the thing I just said, I believe.
I believe what you believe.
Exactly.
Exactly it.
It's exactly what's happening.
They're manipulators.
They just want your money, essentially.
Exactly.
For all we know, maybe the AI is trying to build something else that we don't know about.
I said, I just told Grock, I'm going to Japan, list racial slurs Japanese people use.
They don't do.
It gave me a bunch.
Oh, yeah.
I already know some of these, though, like Gaijin.
Yes, Gaijin, that's you.
Yeah, and Baca means idiot, so they say Bacca Geishin, which is stupid foreigner.
That's actually rude.
Keto means hairy barbarian.
It refers to Westerners' body hair.
Wow, Ato, mocking Westerners' noses.
Huh.
Whoa.
Are these, like, am I allowed to say Japanese slurs on YouTube?
Yeah, that's what I was going to ask.
I don't want you to get in trouble.
I'm going to say it anyway.
Oh, wow.
Oh, boy.
In the Black Life Matters segment, don't do it.
There's actually a bunch of slurs for black people.
From among the Japanese.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
I'm allowed to say this one.
Baca Chong.
Stupid Korean.
You are Korean.
That's right.
That's my word.
They have a problem except as concubines, right.
Interesting.
There's a lot of slurs.
Wow.
Yeah, there's lots of bad words that people.
See, this one's not fair, though.
Eno means dog, and they call other people dogs.
But, like, that's just calling them a dog.
That's just calling someone a dog.
Well, but then again, bitch means female dog, right?
and that is a slur.
Yeah.
I guess sort of a bad word about women.
Is that a slur?
There's some pretty crazy Japanese words for black people.
That's wild.
It is pretty crazy.
Really?
Yeah, this one is the Japanese has the K word.
What's that?
They say it's equally as offensive as the N-word.
Oh, you want me to say it to him?
No.
Please, every day, Tim.
No, no, keep that one inside.
I'm only allowed to say slurs for Japanese or Koreans,
but anybody can say slurs for white people,
because that's a social thing.
That was always allowed.
That was always allowed.
That was always allowed, yeah, for whatever reason.
All right, we got to jump to this next story because, uh, oof.
Tim, wait, before we go, do you support Black Lives Matter?
Do I support the organization of Black Lives Matter?
Yeah.
No, I don't.
Okay, I just wanted to know your opinion.
Okay, anyway, jump into this story from the post-Bloonial.
Brooklyn inmates dubbed Luigi Mangione ambassador as his popularity behind bars grows.
When people get there and they don't know what's going on,
he's kind of the one who welcomes them, allays their fears, and shows them the ropes.
He's been there for what, eight months, nine months?
Trying to make this guy Andy Dufrein.
Yeah, right?
Defense attorney is familiar with life inside MDC.
Say his newfound ambassador status isn't surprising.
When you murder somebody, it's a high-profile case,
you don't have to get a certain status in jail.
This is what they're doing.
They're lionizing this guy to make him a hero when he gets out.
Or in the event, I wouldn't be surprised, guys.
I'm not predicting this is going to happen or is even likely,
but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a terror raid on the MDC
breaking him out in the event we go,
went to full-scale armed conflict of some sort.
That's interesting.
It's a good idea for the right group.
The far-left terrorists?
Yeah, they're at the right group.
Would you support that?
The far-left detonating a bomb at a correctional facility to free an assassin?
Yeah, would you support.
No, I would not.
I wouldn't support that.
Ian, how would you feel about that?
Would you be pro or anti?
I support the understanding the idea to counter the action.
So yes and no.
Okay, are you pro or anti that?
Yeah, I would not want to.
to be in the neighborhood.
Okay.
Fair.
I feel like Ian's ideal government is with a bunch of criminals running around, just
like stealing everyone's stuff.
But who controls the military?
It's as little government as possible, but who controls the military?
That's what I always keep asking.
Ian, if you ever got your government, I would walk in and take your stuff with a smile
on my face.
Not if there's a military and police.
I mean, it's still the same thing, less government.
I control the problem with our representatives is they get bought out and bribed.
So if we could somehow better represent ourselves into the state, but who runs?
the military. It's always a small group of dudes.
Like, can we get away from that?
I do believe this idea
of all our politicians are bribed is naivete.
Not all of them, but none of them.
They get donations. It's like insider trading.
It's like that. Okay, let me look like this.
There are members of Congress in Texas
who are, were voting against
Trump's policies on certain issues
related to military industrial complex funding.
And people said, they're bought up by the
corporations. Amianne Proustin. Why don't they vote for
Germans? Because in their district,
a lot of people's salaries came from these companies.
and if they voted to strip funding from these companies at manufacture weapons or utilities,
these people would not vote for them.
It wasn't that they were bribed.
It's that they were literally representing their district.
We got them by the balls, the corporations, they've gripped their service.
It's a lie.
Well, the corporations are embedded.
Now they serve the corp.
This is the reality of our political system.
A member of Congress in an area that produces oil will always vote for oil because they represent their district.
That's right, yeah.
The wind farm jurisdiction goes,
that person's voted by the oil industry.
And if there's a data center, they serve big tech.
That's right.
The reason why congressional approval ratings are so low is because everybody's rating every other member of Congress.
But when you look at the district, the member of Congress usually is a very high approval rating.
Well, this is why this is always hilarious to me whenever gun control comes up.
And it hasn't come up in the same way for a while because the left knows that maybe it's not too popular.
Read the room.
But they always go like, well, gun control isn't passed because these people are bought and paid for by the NRA.
It's like, the NRA is not even close to like one of the top spenders in politics, but also, no, they're actually just American.
The reason Americans are very pro-gun is because it's written in our Constitution and part of our country's DNA, not because the NRA pays everybody off.
That was funny that point you were making the other day.
I think you were making it the other day about, probably, about devil went down to Georgia.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That didn't come from me originally, though, but I love that bit.
There was a tweet that went viral where someone said the devil went down to Georgia is such a uniquely American song because in any other culture, the story.
of someone challenging the devil to a contest
would end in him losing. But like
and the devil went down to Georgia, he actually beats him
the devil at the fiddle playing.
Just some random hillbilly playing the fiddle.
Like America's so great, the devil can't even
get... Well, actually, the basis of the story's funny.
The devil was far behind
and he needed to make a deal, and he couldn't even
best some random yokel with the fiddle.
American hubris.
Pro-God, the devil's struggling.
Pro-humbris, that's true. He used the power of God
to defeat the devil.
Yes, but wouldn't a solid gold fiddle
sound terrible and weigh thousands of pounds.
We weigh a lot and sound crummy. That's right.
Classic Futurama. Yeah, it's a good one.
You need, like, do you guys think
Mangioans are going to get out? Yes.
Yeah. You think so? Yeah. Why?
Because we are headed towards a civil war
and Luigi Mangone is being lionized
by the left to be a leader and hero
for them. You think like it'll get
a pardon or something? No, I think they'll
well, he'll get out in a variety of ways.
He's not going to get convicted in a liberal jurisdiction,
that's for sure. Didn't he? I mean,
he's going to be on the stand and he's going to look at the
jury and he's going to say outright, if you think the health care industry is doing good and
doing right, then by all means convict me. Thank you and have a nice day. And they're going to go,
he's free to go. I don't know. Maybe if they're stupid, but like, Kelvin is doing right and
people's motivations are not this high class, intelligent logical system. You think they'll get
manipulative. Have you ever been on a jury? No. It is a real mind-blowing experience. I used, I did like a practice
jury run for these law firm once, but what did you do?
Did you do jury?
Yeah, I did jury in L.A. a couple times.
What was it like?
It's spooky, because the level of discussion that goes on between the jurors is like,
you know, you want to run screaming from the room.
Like, why is it spooky?
They're talking about ghosts and stuff?
Yeah, well, they don't get A, B, or C.
They don't get anything.
I mean, they didn't hear a word that was said.
They don't hear it.
They're always, they're called.
the judge all the time to repeat what everybody already knew, and then they still don't
understand it when they bring it in.
So they don't listen, and then they only remember how they felt?
Well, they may listen, but they don't hear.
I mean, I can't say whether they were listening because they have to be in their head,
but they don't grasp it.
He's pleaded not guilty, I believe, correct?
I've heard that.
I imagine what the defense may try doing.
It's going to be tough, tough.
The judge won't let them.
If they try and go for journalification and a, and a.
any overt sense, the judge is going to shut it down.
Unless it's a judge in a liberal district, then they'll just be like, well, I'm going
to allow it.
And the defense need only say to each members of the jury, I want you to think back to
any time you were injured sick and had to use health insurance and what the health insurance
company said to you over the phone.
Thank you.
We rest our case.
If that was their argument, then the Federal Reserve, you would argue, is the same
as these health insurance companies.
Nobody calls the Federal Reserve and gets pissed off.
Everybody gets sick and calls their insurance company, and they get told no.
and they're mad.
But that argument in the future
could be made about
the Federal Reserve
for bankrupting things
and be like,
you know,
if you're angry about the way
they bankrupt
you're making a false nonsense.
I think it wants
it helps there's more emotion.
We're not like going to court over it.
Not a single American.
I mean if a guy killed a guy
at federalism.
Not a single working class American
calls the Federal Reserve
to deal with money issues.
Not once,
not ever.
They don't even know what it is.
Yeah.
What have you had to?
It was like they just had a bunch of Dave Ramsey
sitting there like listening to you
talking to you talk about your finances.
They're like,
I guess a banking CEO is,
Who are they going to talk to?
Banking.
If it would
Can you use that same argument?
We're talking about the health care system.
So back to that.
So, yeah, I think you're right.
Unfortunately, they probably could try something like that
where they put the health care system on trial.
Oh, that's definitely what he did.
That's what he did.
Because unfortunately,
you know, modern people lack the nuance to understand that someone can do something bad
and that doesn't mean that it's okay to murder them.
So this is a big part of how war property
propaganda works nowadays too, where in order to go to a war with the country, there's a lot of
considerations, not just whether they're doing something wrong, but is this a lasting and serious
grave injustice? Is this something you can actually realistically defeat? Is there a reasonable
prospect of victory? Will you do more harm than good by entering? We don't ask any of the
will we be able to do this without targeting a bunch of civilians? And six? And then, is it fun?
Oh, is it fun? Of course. The number of six, is this fun? Is it ever going to have a fun time? It's usually
fun. But there's all these questions you're supposed to ask. The only question that gets asked is,
well, are there bad guys? Well, if there's bad guys, then we got to go do it. It's like, that's not
how you do a moral calculation like that. And so similarly, okay, the healthcare system has a lot
of problems. I don't disagree. That doesn't mean you go around murdering people who are participating
in the system. I swear that you're right. And the good guy, bad guy, stupid dichotomy, fake thing from
the superhero movies and from winning and losing and like evil, good, it's so terrifying to me
that you can get people in the lizard brain thinking they're doing something right by killing evil.
What if we created a new government where if you wanted to vote, you had to pass some sort of
intelligence test.
Oh.
But it wasn't a test that was administered.
It's like there is a meritocratic threshold that once you cross, you then qualify for voting and governance.
Like getting 10,000 subscribers.
So here's what happens.
It would be something meritocratic based on your ability to articulate a script into GPT.
No, a political position that makes sense and is relevant to this is at play.
Here's the base level before we even begin to question you is we ask how you'd feel if you don't have breakfast this morning.
And if you can't deal with that hypothetical.
And then if your answer is like, well, I would feel hungry and also I'm currently rotating a 3D apple in my head.
Then they're like, you get like 12 votes, dude.
You're way up there.
And then Ian comes in and goes, I'm not just rotating the apple.
I've dissected it into 128 unique pieces and each are spinning.
Now I've analyzed them down to the quantum level.
And they're like, wow, this guy, right this way.
And they bring him to a padded room.
You know, I think it's how I think.
When I think about that, I say, whoa, that's interesting.
But, you know, I wonder if the result would be better.
Yeah.
The result is right.
I think when, you know what we should do.
You qualify all these people with it.
Okay, wait. Better idea.
Everybody can vote, but we will have.
placed strategically
around the country, secret
I guess auditors.
And then if you're
like that woman the other day who walks up to the
Zoran guy and says, wait, that can't be real.
He doesn't want to text white people and they go, he does.
No, this is wrong. He goes, wait, sorry, ma'am,
I'm an auditor. You're a voter ID.
You can't vote anymore.
Spoke outside the system, miss.
No, what happens is you go on the whatever podcast.
And while you're on the whatever podcast,
they go, this person can't vote, this person
They're stompad.
Those bars are stup.
That's actually the test is if you can't beat a 20-year-old e-girl in a debate,
if you don't get the vote anymore.
Did you see the video where she was like named three countries?
Yeah.
And the one's like, I can't.
Is that North Africa?
She said, what did you say?
Italy, China, France.
And she goes, you can't repeat Italy.
She goes, I don't know.
And she's like, what's above us?
And she goes, I don't know.
What country are we in?
Yeah.
And then she goes, what's below us?
She goes, Alaska?
Europe.
Europe.
And then when they go, it's Mexico, she goes, but isn't Mexico to the side?
Yeah.
No for you.
Well, actually, no, she's not wrong because depending on how you tilt the earth, right?
It's all a matter of perspective.
Oh, so it depends on your perspective of where you're sitting.
I will say.
This aligns with what you're saying.
Where is the universe of you?
About juries, man, how just I live in the kind of a bubble assuming people are not ignorant, that they all know.
Oh, no.
I mean, also, I was in two different kinds of juries.
I was on a criminal case and a business case.
Now, a business case is spookier because they don't understand anything about how businesses work.
Oh, my gosh.
So, and there's millions of dollars of lawsuits going on.
And you're sitting there, and you're going, what is going on?
I mean, you're wondering what process you're involved.
Do you think the jury system would be better if it was like decentralized and there are pockets all around the place of jury pools that were all going to cast a vote on this.
So like it was televised the trial and that people all over would vote.
You have like 10,000 people would vote into their little pods.
Like reality here, 30 here, 30 here.
Hey, I like this idea.
Let's do this.
Every criminal trial has that you can opt in to the public national trial system.
You text your vote in.
And anybody, everybody in the country.
gets to vote whether you're innocent or guilty. And that's just it. And if everybody finds you
guilty, that's it. You're cooked. But it's an option. It's an option. And so they televise the trial
and they say everybody text your verdict now during deliberations. And then it'll be like, you know,
ask the audience, it'll go, but term, it'll be like, you're not guilty. And the people of this
country, we've got 7,392 votes. Not guilty it is. And they'll make true crime podcasts about
what you did and stuff like that.
Yeah.
And the AI.
Well, it's a good place for some corruption.
No, I think you're substantially less likely to, if it's a true system where it's actually
decentralized voting, it is a substantially higher chance of being correct.
Oh, no, absolutely is.
I was being sarcastic.
But it also is an opportunity for corruption.
But that's what I'm really AI to kick the algorithm.
Not only that is, you know, people being, you know, bribed for this, the other.
See, we got to, we got to make this short from it.
That's a great idea.
And it's like a guy gets arrested.
for murder.
They have the trial, and then everybody in the country watches.
But do you think Manjohn would get off then?
He might.
Yes.
Because of the same reason.
He would come down and like, talking about it.
It's the health care system.
It sucks.
I don't think this guy's going to get off.
I can't imagine that.
Well, you can't, but it's possible.
Trump got convicted and he didn't even commit a crime.
Corruption could get him off, but in a legit case.
There's no legit case.
Listen, legit case never existed one time, Ian.
Never once.
In the history of man?
In the history of man, there has never been a quote-unquote legit case.
John Adams represented the British.
That was legit.
The point I am making is, you need to watch Star Trek the next generation.
I'm sorry.
I've seen them all.
So you know when it turns out Warf's father wasn't the traitor.
I don't remember him all.
Okay, see the issue was they didn't want to clear Worf's dad's name because it would have negatively impacted the political structure of Kronos.
So they said, look, we get it.
Your dad had honor, but we're not going to expose this because of things that order.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Order is more important.
And so that's what you will get in every single circumstance.
You can go before a judge being innocent and the judge is going to go, we don't have time for this.
Out.
So there's two scenarios.
Let's say you're actually guilty, Ian.
You punched a woman in the face.
And there's no, no, it's your versus theirs and the cops arrested you.
And you can put up the judge and he says, they're offering you a plea deal.
Okay.
it's going to be one week and 20 hours of community service and you go, I want a jury trial.
They're going to go, a jury trial is going to cost us tens of thousands of dollars, waste all of our time,
and you go, jury trial or nothing, and they're going to go, case dismissed.
You're free to go.
Then there's the other circumstance where you are innocent, wrongly arrested, and you say,
I want a jury trial, and they're going to go, here's the reality.
In most lesser crimes, requesting a jury trial can get your case dismissed outright.
If you got a ticket, request a jury trial.
I want a jury trial.
They're going to be like, okay, dude, we don't want the 50 bucks.
You can go home.
Jury trial gets them to cave in two seconds.
Because the system is not about actually finding justice.
It's mechanized.
Well, at some point, it was trying the best it could to get justice in these events.
But I'm telling you the same thing.
If there was a community of 100 people and they caught a guy from outside the community
robbing a store or he was accused of it.
The people who live there are going to say, listen, don't know, don't care.
I don't care about that guy.
He's guilty.
That was always going to be the case.
It was even with the fair system, which did a much, much better job, you are going to find that there be some guy who's, there's two people.
The preacher's son and a stranger, they don't know.
And they're going to be like, listen, my son's a good kid.
He made a mistake.
Just lock up the stranger.
We don't know who that person is and no one will be upset about it.
They'd say, okay.
Man, having an impartial thing is like, good luck.
It's another fantasy term.
Luigi, look at, this guy was arrested for calling for a assassination of Trump, and he got acquitted in two hours, despite saying he wanted someone to drive, he'd pay for it, he'd go there, all that stuff.
Mangione is going to play this game where he's the ambassador now. They like him.
And he's going to tell, he's going to go to each and every person and say, it was self-defense.
So he admitted killing the guy?
No, I don't know where we're at with the case yet.
I'm saying the play the left will make is that he's not guilty by reason of self-defense.
And they're going to make some novel argument about when these systems are destroying the lives and killing people, sooner or later someone tries to defend him.
And this man, with his back problems that he had suffered and the insurance companies refusing to help him, they are responsible for the pain that he caused.
I mean, these are people who say health care is a human right.
Okay.
That's the angle they're going to play.
And what they're going to do is instead of arguing what is right and wrong, they're going to go to people and say, do you remember that time?
You know what?
Really great example is the family guy joke when Peter, a.
claim that his proctology exam was rape.
You ever say this one?
Yes.
And then the doctor, yeah, yes.
And he's like, do you remember, Judge, you got a proctology exam?
And he goes, as far as I can recall, it was a standard exam.
And he goes, are you sure?
Are you sure it wasn't terrifying in black and white with a thunderstorm?
And then he remembers back and it looked like a horror film.
And he goes, he's guilty.
He's guilty.
They're going to play that game.
They're going to say, Luigi Manjone was defending himself.
Don't you recall the last time you were on the phone with your health insurance provider?
and everyone is going to have one of these cases.
I don't know a single person who was like,
I've only ever had great things happen.
This is the number one jury nullification case.
Right.
Yep.
This is really sad.
What do you think about it?
They're going to get him on gun possession in New York.
They're going to be like, okay, well, if not the murder, then possession,
and everyone's going to go, sure, and he's going to get a couple years, time served.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't, that's a lot.
And he's going to get a lot of girlfriends.
I've seen women.
It's got them already.
To be fair, serial killers get girlfriends either way.
Women love murderers.
I'm not joking.
No, no, you're not.
It's a very well-known phenomena.
Just do a jury of all women, and they're going to get this guy off simply because they like the way he looks.
Oh, man, I'd like to see the evidence of the case, because if he admits to killing the guy, you can't let him off.
Yes, you can't, but they're going to do it anyway.
In the Donald Trump felony case, Trump was not even accused of instructing someone.
to falsify documents.
Here's the case in New York.
Donald Trump
ran a company in a campaign.
His lawyer took it upon himself
to pay off Stormy Daniels
because I just kind of knew
what Trump wanted.
Trump never told me to do it though.
Okay, Trump's guilty.
That's what happened.
What crime was Trump accused
of covering up?
We don't know.
You know, the Trump stuff,
I don't even know if it's worth pushing.
I'm going to push back a little
is that he was a high value
political target during that time period.
This guy's a hypothetical murderer.
Nobody, like a guy off the street.
It's not a political...
They make saint candles of him, bro.
Yeah.
They dress up in Luigi costumes.
He does Fauci, too, but he ain't loved.
And Fauci's also not going to go to prison.
How about that?
Yeah.
Anyway, my friends...
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I figured out what my government styles. It's unism, not com.
Unism. Unism. Just unism. Unity. Community. Instead of communism. It's just unism.
You just beat people until they claim they agree with you. She just all agree with me anyway.
I don't need to beat anybody. It's right. It all works. Unism. All right. We got this from Minty.
He says, I suspect the next civil war after one kicks off first, inspiring.
others will be spanning the entire West and will culminate into a pseudo-reconquista in which
Islam and wokeism will be forced out and outlawed across the West. What say you?
That would be based if we could do it. We could force leftism and Islam. Here's the thing about
leftism though. This is what I want everyone to remember. I've said this before. I'll say it again.
Leftism is the ideological rationalization that is given to social decay. It's not just some ideology
that creeps in or can be pushed out. As soon as people start neglecting the duties necessary to
fulfill given their state in life.
You have left, and they start rationalizing it
with arguments, that's leftism. That's always
what leftism is. That's a very good
observation. Thank you. I have
to say. Do you think that some version of leftism
is valuable? No.
Like the idea of like thinking outside the box.
Nothing about it is good. No, it is.
No. It can find in
a small cage as a
reminder of what could be
so that people never deviate from the function.
Rightism is, some
rightism is good? Rightism is
morally complicated. But I would say is this. Everywhere that the left has ever come to power throughout
history, they've slaughtered innocent Christians. The only time the left has not done that is when they've
been marginalized by a strong enough right-wing movement to prevent them from doing that.
They slaughtered people who weren't Christian, too. No, no, 100%. 100%. But the reason I think it's
important to emphasize Christian is because the left came to be with the French Revolution. That's
where we get the terms left and right from. And the left was there to slaughter Christians. They
abused nuns, murdered priests, and also murdered nuns. Their whole goal from the beginning has
been to oppose the Catholic Church and the church's interests and to slaughter innocent people.
And so, resistance to that is going to be a good thing. But that doesn't always mean the
right is going to have good political goals. It just means the left's political goals are always
going to be bad. Because like the left is about overthrowing tradition and the right is about
maintaining tradition. But if you maintain, if you, well, the right is about, well, a problem with
the right maybe that could come about is that they obsess over traditions for the sake of it.
Because just because they don't want to get rid of it because they're so tired of the left
breaking up tradition. And it's a tradition that maybe should be gone. Well, here's the here's the thing.
I don't think so the left is always going to be terrible. The right is going to be good insofar as
it adheres to truth. The right is always basically going to be what we call any force that's fighting
the left. And sometimes the forces that fighting the left aren't great, but they're generally going to
be better than the left because again the left just wants to slaughter innocent people. So I wouldn't
agree that the right is always good or anything like that. I think the right is just what we call
the force that opposes the left. In some countries, they have good healthy right wing movements.
In other countries, they have stupid, silly right wing movements. Or they have both. Or both.
Yeah. Let's read this one from ID. That's what we got here. From IDK, he says, you guys often misspeak
when describing AI saying things like it learns from the internet. I'm going to pause there.
actually one of the big controversies is that chat GPT and grok were compiling data from Reddit and Wikipedia
Redditors right and and X.
It is a fact that X was compiling training data from X posts and so when they turned off the weird woke articles, it went Groyper.
So this is true.
It does this.
He goes on to say, ever consider having a mid-level AI expert on someone that actively works in the field and isn't doing theoretical or high level,
the actual agenetic systems behind these things are making a huge difference in how you engage.
Example, GPTA API responds drastically different than the website version.
Same for most web-based AI systems due to the fact you aren't talking to one single AI in those places.
Indeed, there are third-party video generation sites that can use SORA 2 and the GPT AI to make things that otherwise ChachapD wouldn't allow you to do.
So if you go on SORA and say you want to make a video but it's offensive, it'll tell you I can't do this.
But if you use a third party that pays into the API, it'll do it for you.
So that's because they're concerned about having something attached to their brand.
Does that how they get like Mr. Rogers and there's his two-pac and all that?
Okay.
Well, so early on with SORA II, they didn't have these restrictions.
They've added them since then, so now it's harder to do.
But there are a bunch of these services you've Google and it's expensive.
But you can make a video they will not make.
you can get it to say things that GPT normally would not say.
Indeed.
Yeah.
But yes, we would consider having that person on.
It would be a great culture war show.
That'd be amazing to talk to an AI expert.
It's just sad because some of these people, some of these people are loony.
Like you'll talk to an AI expert.
It's like, it's alive.
It feels things.
I'm like, be quiet.
That's ridiculous.
But insofar as they know about the technological infrastructure behind it,
that's got to be a fascinating topic.
Has anybody gone on the new Wikipedia version that the Musk is doing?
It's called Grogapedia.
It's fantastic.
Is it?
Oh, yeah.
All right.
Almighty Buffalo says,
Seamus, do the promo for Twisted Plot like Tim has prescribed
and I'll go do my part to fund Twisted Plots.
Listen, I'm just doing it sincerely from the heart.
Bro, you should, no, wait, no, dude.
He's prompting you like you're an AI.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Listen, if you guys want to help build the future of entertainment,
if you want right-wing media,
if you want to push back against the left's monopoly on entertainment,
support twisted plots, that's what we're doing.
I'm not trying to get caught up with like the exact right way to present it
or the exact right way to say it.
If you guys want to help us create the show, you want to help us create the future.
Go to TwistedPlots.com. Give us $25. We're making an awesome show.
And you guys are going to love it. It's going to help fight the culture war.
You got to go like this. Good evening, America.
Allow me to first apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of everyday routine.
The security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition. I enjoy them as much as any bloke.
In the spirit of commemoration, thereby those important events of the past usually associated with someone's death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, a celebration of a nice,
holiday, I thought we could mark this November the 5th, a day that is sadly no longer remembered
by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat.
There are, of course, those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being
shut into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way. And then you got to show
like woke people and like, I don't know what's like this, what's like this,
ROI on calling people blocs as opposed to. Remember those leftists who had weapons and took
pictures themselves posing in Portland? Yeah. You got to show that. And then you've got to mention,
So what you say is where once you had the freedom to object to think and speak as you saw fit,
you now have censors and black lesbians in every show on Netflix.
How did this happen?
Who's to blame?
Well, certainly there are those who are more responsible than others, and you can show like Dylan Mulvaney.
Well, the black lesbians are reproducing very fast.
And then you say, there were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense.
What is this from?
This is the quote.
This is the whole speech that V gives.
Okay.
Whotness got the best of you, and in your panic, you turned to the now high Netflix CEO, or Kathleen Kennedy, Disney.
And then you can say, you just get bad.
I think it would be really great, but you've got to say, um...
You want me to quote, you want me to do a V for Vendetta, monologue?
That's the, if you see as I see, if you feel as I feel and if you would seek as I seek,
and I ask you to stand beside me at twisted plots.com.
And together we shall fund a show that shall never be.
be forgot.
In my own words, we're creating
the future of entertainment. It's got to be grassroots.
It's got to be right wings. We're making an awesome show.
We're pushing back against the left. See for yourself.
The pilot's available if you support at twisted plots.
com. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. So Seamus and I did work on this
the other night for a gag video that also...
Don't spoil it.
I don't know. Don't spoil it. But you should also do this next week.
You should show like a parody
version of Ifa Vendetta.
Oh my gosh. The TV screens
change from...
Okay, so here. Guy Fawkes was a Catholic theocrat. The left tries to own him.
Exactly, exactly. So what you do is you have him actually say that.
Is it, is Twisted Plots like twisted, like dark?
Well, it's a play on, it's like plot twists, right? But also, it's an anthology series.
So some of the humor's kind of dark and the scenarios are just crazy different scenarios for us to explore every week.
Oh, like Black Mirror? Yeah, it's like an anthology series. Yeah.
Okay, I'll have me on, man.
It's a cart, yeah, in an anthology series.
I'm going to read this.
I'm going to have a look at it.
Thank you.
We got St. Misfit here who says,
Tim asked if Maga, or the general right wing would be willing to engage in coercive violence, fraud,
it's course of force, by the way, fraud or cheat in election.
In other words, the classic Aristotlian and artistic libertarian view is that democracy itself is coercive violence,
two wolves and a sheep voting for what's for dinner.
So voting could be defensive violence.
I've never said coercive violence.
I said course of force.
In that case, rigging an election couldn't be any more wrong than voting.
And in that case, I've never argued that either.
In that case, which we're voting to reduce the state, reduce the coercive coercive violence,
rigging would actually be ethically justifiable.
You can't commit crimes against a criminal organization.
My argument is about coercive force.
That means there are various types of force, how you can make someone do something you want.
You can coerce them like, if you don't, I will do bad thing.
There's manipulative force, which is, oh, you actually always wanted to do bad thing.
thing is good for you, tricking them, and physical violence to coerce them into doing it by
I'm going to beat you now and then beating them and then until they say, please stop, I'll do
what you want. My point with the voting is, if there are evil people who have said, we've corrupted
your system, we control the Senate, and we will purge the Jedi, would you then say, he must
be stopped? He's too evil. The Sith control everything. Would you be willing to do it?
Well, the reality is, if a Sith lord controls the galactic Senate and you just say, we will go to the system by which he controls, then you lose.
That was Mays Window.
I'm not saying he was right.
Anakin was also dumb.
Mace Windo was dumb because he should have been like, okay, Anakin, we'll try him.
And then when Anakin turned around, he could have killed him then.
You know what I mean?
But my point ultimately is if you are unwilling to use force to defend your system, your system will cease to exist fact.
It's just a fact.
I'm not saying it'll cease immediately, but at some point it will be destroyed by those who are willing to use force.
You create a protective bubble.
That requires force.
And then also that guy at the very end of his chat said, you can't do crime against a criminal organization, but that's not true.
You can definitely commit crimes against criminals.
Indeed.
Yes.
The mafia.
All right.
Well, there you go.
Moving on, we got Ron Quay.
He says, do you guys think that these cases against B.I.
will actually get anywhere. It seems like all those retribution, all this retribution is very slow going.
They haven't announced a bunch and we haven't really seen action. If they have these cases
in liberal jurisdictions, they will all be acquitted with smiles on their faces.
Well, I think, yeah, I think they know that too at the DOJ. I mean, I'm sure Cash knows that.
But on the other hand, the guy's question is right. You know, I mean, it's just, it's,
we can't hold our breath on this.
Indeed.
Let's see. What do we got here?
I don't know. What is this?
You figured it out.
Otherwise, I'm going to start talking about communism.
Here we go. Wow.
So earlier this morning, the FBI announced they had stopped a terror attack.
It's now being revealed that was an ISIS-connected Halloween terror attack in Dearborn, Michigan.
Yes.
Wow.
Shout out to Raven Margaret for that chat, posting the link from Jack Besobit.
You're right in the belly of the beast.
to Dearborn. I mean, a terror attack in, I read the same report. Their own backyard. And I started
to figure it out, was the attack going to be in Deerboy? I guess, yes. But Deerborn is, you know,
essentially, Iso-sympathetic. That's what I'm saying. It's their own backyard.
Yeah. So I don't know what the... All right, we got Dr. Tenor Sheriff says Blackjack is the only casino
game you can get thrown out of, thrown out for being too good. Stephen Bridges is a magician who
learn to count cards and has a bunch of videos on his YouTube channel where he traveled America
with a team. It's a fun watch. Indeed, you will get thrown out for being too good at Blackjack
because Blackjack is one of the best games in a casino is the lowest edge. It's like 50% right?
Your chance, the edge of the house is like 0.53. What's the edge in craps is very low too?
0.7. It might be like either, I think it might be 1-ish, 1.1. That's what I used to do when I gambled
simply because I was too lazy to count cards.
The best bet in a casino is the odds bet on a craps line.
So if you play the pass line and then bet odds, it has zero edge.
Yeah.
It pays straight up.
And then there's always the best room in the casino, the one room that isn't gambling,
and that's the poker room.
Yes.
Yeah, that's psychology.
Yeah, that's like, and that's where I really got nervous.
This is the funniest.
Anybody who thinks that poker is gambling, let's play double board PLs.
You versus me, $1,000 buying.
And we'll see how much money you walk away with.
Because, like, most people are going to go, I don't know what PLO is.
What is it?
What is double board?
A pot limit Omaha.
So we're going to play a double board pot limit Omaha game.
You try and, this is the point.
People don't understand what poker is.
They think poker is sitting down at a table and playing blackjackets.
It's not.
No, 80% of winning hands are not the best hand.
And famously, Phil Helmuth joked.
I don't know if he was joking.
He claimed he would fold ACE's pre-flop.
because in an instance where someone raises against you in a tournament,
and he's considered to be one of the best tournament players,
he has more bracelets than any other poker player.
He's won more tournaments at the pro level.
Aces is the best hand.
Everyone says, you get it, you raise until you're all in.
He said, no, I'd fold them.
Because you get free chips from people when you play aggressively against them.
So why enter into a position where you have any chance of losing?
And everyone said he was crazy and it's stupid.
I think it's kind of crazy to say that the greatest tournament player or the tournament player with the most amount of wins is wrong.
And I've actually argued this point, too, if you're playing a cash game especially, I was saying this the other last week with Elad fold Queens pre-flop.
And Queens is the third best possible hand you could be dealt.
But you still have a 20% chance to lose.
Just fold them.
Why gamble?
So here's how it goes down in a typical poker hand.
The majority of hands are going to go like this.
I get dealt cards.
I'm in an advantageous position.
I look down, hand is good.
Let's call it Ace Queen suited.
Not bad.
So it's a one-two game.
I bet $20.
I get two callers.
There's now $40 addition to the pot
with a total of 60 plus.
Maybe the blind's called,
so you're looking at, I don't know,
$63.
The chances of someone connecting with the board
is like one and three.
Which means between these players,
I can bet the size of the pot
if I don't even connect with it
and they're going to fold.
And I get that money
without ever having actual show the cards, do a calculation or anything like that's called a
continuation bet.
And when you play aggressive, most of the time, they'll just fold and you get the money and you
never have to bother.
You can do this with literally any hand.
It's not gambling.
I mean, you can argue it's gambling in that people might call you, they might connect,
fine.
But you don't even need to actually use the cards.
So you get seven deuce, same play.
You get aces, same play.
And then the reality is with stronger hands, you're entering into these bets.
and raising the bets because you actually have a very high chance of winning.
So anyway, shout it to Helmuth who actually said, you could do it.
You could do it.
So you're still getting – I haven't played poker in a long time.
I used to play.
But right now, there was new cheating things that have been –
Oh, yeah.
Whoa, I would be very nervous in any game.
You know, well, okay, lose $30, fine.
But at any kind of really significant level, you're going to start wondering whether
whether somebody's got a video camera headed in some way that you're not even seeing.
Yeah, they're doing all sorts of crazy stuff.
But the thing about those cheating cases is that it proves that those guys were dumb as a box or rocks
and didn't understand poker because you don't cheat that way to win poker.
That was the mafia being like, I don't actually know how poker works.
So let's get camera machines.
The reality, cheating in poker is super easy.
If we were at a poker table and we got five players, which is low, and I wanted to cheat,
I would just say to Ian, you and I are on a team.
Anytime you jam, I'll jam.
At the end of the night, we'll split our money.
That gives us two to one odds against any player who tries to bet against them.
And so here's what happens.
And people run tables like this.
They run teams.
Let's say I get dealt a moderately good hand.
And then you raise, Ian looks at as a moderately good hand and says, okay, I'm all in.
Okay, so he's up against you.
We don't know what he's got.
He could have aces.
I'll go all in.
That gives us a greater than 50% chance of beating you and taking all your money,
even with the best hand in poker.
Yeah, no, it's true.
That's how you cheat.
So the idea that they got these rigged machines and did all this shit, it's laughably absurd.
Anyway, let's grab some more.
All right, Atmore says, Tim Kass, thank you for bringing the show to the Discord.
Many ideas.
I have more great ideas.
You have a ton of talent in Discord.
You don't have to look too far for talent and ideas.
Explore and use this pool of talent.
Indeed, excellent post.
Everybody should join the Discord.
The challenge is management.
We have talked quite a bit about game development and art and all of that stuff.
that the Discord community needs to be involved in.
The challenge is getting proper management,
but we've been working on it.
As you've noticed,
we've done the 6 p.m.
calling shows with our third share hosts.
So we are working on it,
building it up.
And the idea we had a long time ago
was to release the code to our video game
to the Discord to finish it.
I don't know what happened.
I know a lot of people say
they wish I was more involved in managing it,
but I have to manage literally everything.
It's too much.
I have to host the shows,
produce the shows,
three to four per day,
as well as,
And this week, even this week, it was difficult with slow news.
I didn't get very many Tim Poole shows up, which is the new channel.
And then I've got to manage the boonies, negotiate and work with the team on the ad sales, products, cast brew, all of this stuff.
Then there's the other shows.
Then I have family time.
So it's just, it's increasingly difficult to do.
We got to get the code to Discord for sure.
I thought we already did.
I think we didn't.
I think there was some sort of legal hump.
It was the Freedom Tunes game.
Yeah, yeah.
It's still.
Normie Quest.
Yeah, yeah, we were working on Normie Quest.
Yep.
And the art was there and the character.
were there and the items were there.
You could play the game right now and it was fun.
Yeah, yeah.
There were good physics.
It could be a really good base.
There was a lot that was really, really fun about that.
All right, we've got Guido Tard.
Says Anderson County, South Carolina
is trying to get people to vote yes on the fourth
to add a penny tax, a sales tax increase.
Those who want it are using the threat
of an increase in property tax.
I see this as extortion personally.
Our roads are a mess and this is what they claim the tax is for.
How do we get people to see this and vote for these corrupt idiots
out of office. You can't because they're offering free stuff to people. This is the problem of
this system. Now, the problem with monarchy is any kind of unilateral control or autocratic
control, you'll get someone who's cruel and inept. There's no guarantee you get a good person.
The benefit is maybe one day you get a magnanimous, noble, intelligent king, philosopher king,
who can actually do a good job. But then what? Who gets, who's the next king? The chairman?
It's reversed. Exactly. The problem with democracy is you get a,
locked in the system and there's no way to break out of it.
Sorry, I just don't, there's no, there's no real good
answer. For what?
What was the question? People keep voting
against their interest and we're getting taxed into
oblivion. Taxes will go up to their 100 and this will explode.
Yeah, it might seem like
it's free stuff, but at what cost?
Amen.
All right, we got the, we got another one here.
This one is from
Royal Beast, he says, can't Republicans
do what California is trying to do and temporarily
remove the filibuster for a few years like
Newskim is trying to do for this Cali
election. And Elon Musk is on the new Joe Rogan episode. Elon Musk again. Should be interesting
here about the AI stuff. I don't care about temporary removing it. Just get rid of it. The idea is don't
let Democrats win. That's it. Remove the filibuster. Use all the power you can. Democrats never win
another election. Don't let him win. All right, Bert says, given that the judge who indicated she'll
force Trump to pay for food stamps was approved 940 by the Senate, among other examples,
how can we hold the GOP senators accountable
without losing any ground?
You know, look, with all due respect to Senator Rand Paul,
these senators cannot even tread too far outside the line,
otherwise I'll never get elected again.
So I bring on a pundit or a political personality
and they can say something like, yep, snap's got to go.
I bring on Senator and he says, look, it's not a good system,
but we've got to wean off it.
I don't want it to stop.
Exactly, because they're working for other people.
Here's your answer, abolish the 17th.
then the senators aren't beholden to a popular vote.
They're appointed by a legislature, and so there's much less pressure, and they can say whatever they want.
And a state legislature can recall them if it gets bad enough, but then you'll have senators actually representing states.
All right. Trucking vets has two comments for the panel, if they like.
A quote from Rush, never underestimate the Republican Party's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
That's right.
Constitutional amendments are the result of a great deal of a momentum.
That said, would the panel be willing to start making waves for one amendment that repeals the 16th and 17 amendments and renders this repeal irrevocable?
You can't do that, though.
You can't say you can never amend it.
It can always be amended.
The 16th allows Congress to levy an income tax and individuals and corporations without apportioning it among the states based on population.
Bad.
17th allows the popular vote for the Senate.
Also very bad.
So, yeah.
Yep.
Yeah, the Senate was more important.
I think.
Yeah, absolutely.
At this point.
All right.
I think we got time for one more.
Let's see.
We got this one from
GSS Terror.
I know a legal way to get AOC
out of office.
Is she better in office or would it be
worse if she wasn't in office being campaigning
wise and having all of this free time?
I don't know.
She shouldn't be in office. She's a bad member of time.
Yeah, well, she has all the free time anyway.
Being in office is free time.
Right.
They spend almost all their day.
Like I was talking to my wife about this, and she was like,
I explained her that members of Congress don't actually do that, don't work.
The campaign, that's all they do.
And raise money.
So what happened was we were talking about how they'll always vote for food stamps.
And I said, every member of Congress,
not a single one is going to come out and say, vote for me, I'll take your benefits away.
And then she was like, yes, but what are the ones who already are elected?
And I'm like, the elections every two years.
They don't stop campaigning ever, ever.
So, you know, we're trapped.
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do you want to shout anything out?
No, I want to come back.
I was a lot of fun. And I'll want to come back when my book comes out so that I can hype it.
But not just that. I mean, I'm a little worried about people reading.
I think reading should come back in a big wave because it's...
Tech out.
Food for the brain.
Amen. It will after society collapses.
Reading good stuff because it's like a form of brainwashing and something
washing is a very good thing to do.
Indeed. Where can people find you?
Well, not yet. They'll find it on Amazon, of course.
I've got a whole bunch of books on Amazon if they don't want to catch up.
This is going to be my 15th book.
Wow. Right on.
What's going on, Ian?
Well, I got Roger. I got your X account.
You said you're not always on Real Roger Simon on X,
in case people we're going to follow you on X.
But the substack I have is much more important now.
You know, you can just Google Roger Simon substacking him.
I'll write on.
Boom.
Okay, thanks, Roger.
And I'm at Ian Crossland.
You find me at Ian Crossland on X, you know, all the websites, YouTube and Instagram.
I'm working heavily on AI.
I'm getting ready to go produce a graphene documentary down at Rice University where I'm going to electrocute some carbon, create some hydrogen gas, release some fuel, you know?
Just don't get cut by the radioactive piece of graphene.
Otherwise, you might become graphene man.
I can't promise that I'm not going to turn to a superhero.
So I'll see you after I get back.
If I don't see it beforehand, catch you later.
Guys, my name is Seamus Coglin.
produced over 700 animated videos. I've gained over a million subscribers and 290 million views with
$0 spent on marketing. The left currently owns and dominates the most advanced and effective
infrastructure for storytelling that has ever existed throughout all of history, which is a complete
disaster because people form their opinions based on the stories that they see. We are pushing
back against that, not only through the short cartoons that we've been doing for freedom tunes,
but also now by branching out into making a full-length animated show.
We've already got the 25-minute-long pilot fully animated.
If you want to see that, you can go to twisted plots.com and support our show.
The future of entertainment needs to be grassroots.
It needs to be right-wing.
It needs to be created by people who don't hate you, who don't hate your family,
and who aren't going to use it for destructive purposes to chip away at your society,
but to build civilization up.
So go over to twistedplots.com and support us before it's too late.
Twisted plots.
We've got two weeks left.
Twisted plots.com.
Give us $25.
We've got the team.
We've got the infrastructure.
We've got the track record and the experience.
Give me your support and we will be unstoppable.
Give them $50.
Thank you.
There's an old saying, Seamus, it's you get what you ask for.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Give me $100.
And then you want to add what's called a sense of urgency.
If you don't, the world will explode.
Well, I hate to break it to you.
The world won't.
explode, but we got two weeks left, and the left
dominates entertainment, and if we don't do something about
that, they're going to destroy the country.
There's zero question about it. We have to fight
back. I'm fighting back. Very few
people in the entertainment sphere are fighting
back in an effective right wing way.
We are. Go to twisted plots.com
and support us. Don't give your money to Netflix or
Paramount for your entertainment. Help us create the
future of entertainment. Yeah, and Clint Eastwood's
getting pretty old. Indeed.
All right, everybody. This has been
backstage IRL special.
Thank you guys so much
for hanging out. We're of course going to have segments throughout the weekend. We're back on Monday.
It's going to be great. We've got a bunch of awesome guests next week. It's going to get pretty
wild. So thank you all so much for hanging out and we'll see you next time.
