Timcast IRL - Trump Claims Total Victory, Court Eliminates $500M Fine In NY Fraud Case w/ Mike Crispi

Episode Date: August 22, 2025

Phil, Tate, & Mary are joined by Mike Crispi to discuss Trump winning as an appeals court throws out his $500 million fine in the NY fraud case, Marco Rubio announcing the us has halted issuing visas for truck drivers, the Trump administration reviewing the visas of 55 million people, and DC crime plummeting amid federal takeover of the city.   Hosts:  Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Tate @RealTateBrown (X) Mary @popculturecrisis (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Mike Crispi @MikeCrispi (X)

Thank you. An appeals court has thrown out the $500 million penalty that Donald Trump got from Letitia James in the, I think it was the New York Second District or whatever. Marco Rubio paused the truck driver visas for basically the whole country, I believe. Donald Trump and the administration is reviewing 550 million, or no, 55 million visas for violations. I think that's going to end up in a lot of, with a lot of deportations. and he's also going on patrol tonight in D.C. I imagine that he is not going to be dressing up like Christy Noem does, but we'll see what happens. But joining, actually, so before we get into all this stuff, why don't you guys head on over to casprue.com and buy some coffee.

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Joining us tonight to talk about this and all sorts of other things, Mike Crispy. Let's go. Great to be back, guys. Great to be back on Timcast. My third time. Mike Crispy, TV hosts on Real America's Voice, Last Call, Saturday nights at Trump Delegate in surrogate and president of the Italian-American Civil Rights League. We love our Italians out there watching tonight. Awesome. Awesome. And producer Frank is here as well.

Yes, sir. Producer for this guy, I'm usually behind the scenes, but, you know, sometimes I slip through the cracks. Here I am. Let's go, Frankie. Mary's here. Hello, everyone. My name is Mary Morgan, and you can usually find me on pop culture crisis here at Timcast.

And I guess because I usually am talking about celebrities, it's only fitting for me to mention that I brought with me the Selena Gomez limited edition Oreos. Everyone in the studio has tried them except for Phil. But, Mike, I heard you wanted to give a mini review for these cookies. I give the cookies on their taste, 9 out of 10, healthiness, 1 out of 10, race trading, okay? Zero out of 10. Selena Gomez, half Italian, half Mexican, but you would never know about the Italian part.

She plays up the Mexican thing. So she's a race trader, and therefore, the... The cookies are unbuyable if you're out there. What do you mean? She was in her mansion, like, crying about her people. She's, yeah, well, her people are Italian, and they would be very upset to know that she's making these cookies and, you know, not doing anything to honor our heritage. I genuinely didn't know that.

Anyway. Tate's here. Yeah, Tate Brown holding it down. I'm glad there's a fellow crack slipper here. I mean, I'm a producer, and I get on this show somehow. There we got. So there's a lot of cracks being slipped. Yeah, I agree with the race trader cookies that's wrong.

there should be like some sort of canoli essence in the country or something. Yeah, she would be, she was on her and her and she'd make canollies. Would you prefer if they were like pepperonies in them or something like that? They're really good though for the record, the cinnamon flavor. Nice. They aren't. They are. All right. So smash the like button, share the show with all your

friends. Head on over to timcast.com, become a member. We're going to jump right into it. From Fox News, New York Appeals Court throws out 500 million penalty against Trump in Letitia James Civil Case. Let's see. An appellate court has thrown out the $500 million civil fraud penalty against President Donald Trump in the high-profile case

brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James. The New York Appellate Division overturned the penalty, ruling the disgorgement, was an excessive fine that violates the Eighth Amendment. The five-member panel all upheld findings that Trump and his company were liable, affirming that James acted within her authority and that injunctive relief to curb Trump organization practices was appropriate. The ruling leaves liability intact, but eliminates the massive financial penalty of 364 million plus interest, which raises to about 500 million. Now, it's worth noting

that this is a very complex finding. I think it was something like 300 pages. Let me see if I can find it. And there were multiple judges that had, there were five judges altogether. Yeah, okay. So in a complex 323 page series of opinions on Thursday, the justices wrote that they were deeply divided, with two saying a new trial should be ordered, and one writing that the case should be tossed altogether. A majority of four justices settled on an alternate path vacating the massive financial penalty without resolving the merits of the case. The penalty, as one wrote, was far from reasonable approximation of the amount that was warranted. Justice David Friedman, who dissented from the majority, noted that two of the

four justices who voted to vacate the penalty do not actually agree with the resolution of the appeal for which they are voting. I find it remarkable that, although the three justice majority of this five justice panel believe that the judgment in favor of the attorney general should not stand. The result of the appeal is the affirmance of the judgment, albeit as modified to eliminate the disgorgement award from the row.

To draw a sports analogy, it's as if a team awarded a touchdown without crossing the goal line, he continued. This is something that I think is actually a result because of the fact that it's in New York and I think there's a lot of politics involved in the finding. Do you guys

have a similar opinion or have you had a chance to look into this? I think that Letitia James now needs to face the consequences. I mean, just because you try to do something really illegal and you fail doesn't mean you shouldn't pay the consequences. So Judge Engarron and Letitia James, who are now saying they're being politically targeted, okay? They're saying they're being politically targeted because we're actually standing up for ourselves and responding to these things and talking about it. They need to go to jail. They need to do time. They need to be investigated because everyone talks about the rules and the norms and the system of our country, but they're the ones who took the sledgehammer

to it first and tried to break it into a million pieces. They failed. Trump still won. So I think this whole appeals court thing is good, but now we've got to get some accountability. Otherwise, Phil, they'll just do it again. Like somebody else will do it. And I'll just add to that. Can we get rid of the 12-foot statue of Letitia James out of New York City? We could start with that because I don't care what anyone says. That is a statue of her. There's a statue for the most Those who don't know, there's a statue of a big, fat black woman that they put, you know, they took our beautiful statues, like, you know, the Columbus statues, and they put this random statue of, like, a fat black woman wearing sweatsweights in Times Square, and nobody can explain why. Wearing sweatshs is the best part. It's like, nothing heroic, just like wearing a sweatpants.

It's just a lady. That's a Latisha James statue. This is, like, Group 6 on a Delta Airlines. This is not heroic. Yeah. What are we doing here? I understand what you're saying I do want to go

Donald Trump took to truth social to actually talk about this. He called it a total... Trump took to truth social to declare a total victory and rail against James and the original trial judge. Arthur Endergan, James claimed to win two

noting that the appeals court upheld the findings of fraud and restrictions on Trump's businesses and she pledged to appeal the penalty decision. Total victory in the fake New York State Attorney General Leticia James case, Trump wrote.

I greatly respect the fact that the court the courage to throw out this unlawful and disgraceful decision. It kind of didn't. That was hurting businesses all throughout New York. That was true. Others were afraid to do business there. The amount, including interest and penalties, was over $550 million.

It was a political witch hunt in a business sense, the likes of which no one has ever seen. And that's true, too. You heard Mr. Wonderful, the guy from the shark tank. I forget what his real name is. Even O'Leary. Yeah, O'Leary. You heard him talking on CNBC. He was like, look, I don't want to do business here.

If this can happen. You know, if this can happen, if the attorney general can just decide that they want to attack a business person over politics, that's going to chill business. Now, granted, I think Donald Trump was a special case because of the fact that he was the president and because of the support that he got. But at the same time, I mean, I don't think that it's beyond the, it's beyond the Democrats, you know, impulses to go after their, their political rivals using the DOJ of whatever jurisdiction they can. I would say a hundred percent it's just like we've gotten to a point where it's it's just it's it's so absurd where you have so New York City it is the beacon you know all of the billion billion dollar companies no one is going to want to risk it doesn't matter it's like once that cracks open it's like you don't put the genie back in the bottle so it's just like it is such a

bad look for New York it has been horrible I mean me and you we live you're a little out there you're in New Jersey but I'm in New York it's just it's such a joke. Engeron, literally that whole that O'Keefe piece when he found him being a creep at the gym, that was literally two towns over for me. That's right. That's right. And a very expensive town at that. It's just like these

people are pathetic. No, they try to destroy the whole system. They wanted to bankrupt Trump. They wanted to have $500 million ruling so they can get the headline to say he has no money. They wanted to bankrupt him and they wanted to send him to jail simultaneously. They didn't think he would survive it and he did and here we are. So that

doesn't mean that they're absolved. They got to pay. It was so much better when corruption in New York was like masculine and cool. It's like you've got to be like lipped hard, gay to participate. And it's like so unfair. And it's also very vague. Like you don't know how to participate in the corruption. It used to be very clear. You pay this guy.

You know this, that you pay off a few cops. You pay off a lawyer. Now it's like you've got to like take a lawyer. You got to take a judge brunch. And it's ridiculous. And innocent people, mimosas or you don't get you. Bottomless moses with a judge. I never thought the day would come where you can grease someone's

palms in New York with bottomless mimos. Yeah, it's these DEI bribery. It's terrible. Yeah, crime used to be cooler, as you said. And, like, you know, innocent people used to not get caught in it, you know? It would be like, okay, it's like these people are fighting or like these gangs or like these organized criminals. And it was always like somewhat, you know, systematic. Now it was just like indiscriminate and people are defecating on the sidewalk in between.

And it's like, it's not cool. It's not good. Yeah. It'd be an observation. It'd be nice to have some classic corruption back. Yeah. Some traditional good old. American corruption. Like this, not like you said, where there's homeless people everywhere.

It's like, yeah. You know, it's crazy. Well, so, I mean, you talk about, talk about people going to jail, but I mean, this isn't actually really put to bed yet. From CBS News, New York Attorney General Letitia James said in a statement Thursday that her office will appeal the decision to the court of appeals, the state's highest court. Her statement lauded one aspect of the ruling, which left in place sanctions barring Mr. Trump from serving as an officer or director of any corporation or other legal entity in the state for three years. His sons, Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr. were banned for two years. The court upheld the injunctive relief. We won limiting Donald Trump and the Trump Organization officer's ability to do business in New York. It should not be lost to history,

yet another court has ruled that the president violated the law and that in our case has merit, James said. The idea that it just has merit, like the, the parties involved when they were actually being, when they were actually being questions on the stand, they all said that they, you know, they were happy with the, with the, with the, with the transaction. Everybody made money. they were they were all considered sophisticated and all understood the terms when they went into this and this was something that Letitia James brought

and this is something that she actually ran on she ran to get her job as the attorney general she said that she was going to go and find the crimes that Donald Trump committed. Now I know that there are some people out there that think that that's what the government should be doing trying to find crimes that people have done but there's no reason to go after someone

or go after Donald Trump other than political motivation. You know, her number one quote ever, Latisha James is she said, um, in the system where everyone is too male, too pale and too stale. That's a Latisha James quote.

So I think now in the wake of this, it needs to be two women, too dark and too zesty. Because like, you know, it's the only, we've got to go totally the opposite way. And Latisha James is in a lot of, of trouble. And I think that she's going to pay, not even for this, but she is now under investigation

by the DOJ for mortgage fraud. So it's kind of funny. Like, you know, Trump got, you know, the loan and Deutsche Bank said, as you said, Phil, Deutsche Bank said he was fine. He paid it back with interest, no problem. Latisha James committed hardcore mortgage fraud where she misrepresented where she lived and all these other things to get a loan term that she had no business getting whatsoever. She's literally guilty more blatantly than what they were trying to get Trump on. And it's similar. So I think that they're going to get him, get her, and Ed Martin's going to get her. And I think Letitia James will end up going to jail over her own mortgage situation. So that's my prediction.

Yeah, and when like, and she was committing, it was in Maryland. Like, that's what you're going to go to bat for? That's where you're going to risk going to jail over. That's a downgrade from, like, what are we doing? I least risk it, like, do like Nashville or something, you know, nice. Yeah, yeah. This is crazy. Her development was in, where in Maryland was it, you know?

It doesn't matter to Maryland. It's really nice areas in Maryland. So that was her. That's not true. I've just attacked the whole state of Maryland It's fine It's a small state, right? Ellen's away from us

So it will be okay But yeah, no, it's just crazy She can't even commit mortgage fraud properly Yeah How do you expect her to prosecute mortgage fraudster? Yeah, how can you be prosecuted If you can't even do it properly? Yeah, her investment property wasn't in Hawaii

Or Palm Beach. Right. It's in Maryland. I know, like get real And they're going to get Schiff on the same thing Hopefully, so Yeah, I mean, I would love to see Obviously, I would love to see Shift

and Letitia James see significant, you know, legal troubles because of it. I don't actually have a sense that there's going to be anything that will come from both of those. You don't think so? Well, I mean, look. Oh, do you think nothing ever happens? Is that called the black pill? Is that a black? I didn't say nothing ever happens.

There are a few people around here that think nothing ever happens or nothing ever changes is the, are the two kind of things that are thrown about. Nothing ever happens is shorthand. for nothing ever changes. It's like the internet slang, right? That's what they, on X, they said nothing ever happens, Greg. I would say as far as the comparison between Letitia and Shift, it's like, with all the issues we do have with Letitia, it's like she did, as we did say, she ran on it.

She's like, I'm going to go after him. That's what you're going to vote me in for. On the other side, we have Schiff, who was voted in to, you know, take care of the welfare, you know, and they just decided, yeah. in the Senate to help out his constituents. Instead, he took all of the time to literally lie about Russia and basically, if you want to argue, possibly, you know, commit treason, basically, and just have our entire country divided for four years.

He accused Trump of committing treason in the first term, which totally derailed everything that led to the impeachment thing. So he literally got on television and said the president is committing treason. I've seen the evidence. There was no evidence. Trump was including what the Russians. It was laughable. Schiff should face consequences for that

The punishment for treason is death Schiff accused the president of committing treason trying to throw the country into chaos So the question is what should it is punishment be Should it be something similar? I don't know I mean look when it comes to what should happen Because of those accusations and stuff

I think that's a totally separate issue From you know mortgage fraud or whatever And I think that the idea that mortgage fraud Would be a good replacement punishment for what he's actually done when it comes to the accusations that he was making. I think the only problem is most of the time when he was making those accusations

he was on the floor of Congress, right? He said it on television though. He said it on CNN. There's like the montage of him saying it. Like, I have seen the evidence. I have seen it. He did say it in Congress when that, you know, they say that protects you if you're in Congress, but he said it on television many times. And I don't think we've ever had a politician

who has breached that boundary. It's like, you don't, like, you know, I don't like Democrats, you know, but I don't accuse them of treason. Like, you know, you don't just accuse somebody of treason. Um, so I think that just crossed the barrier. So what happens for crossing that barrier? We, we don't know because no one's ever done it. Yeah. Well, there's also like a big because, you know, there's these, you know, let's arrest Obama or Hillary. And you see that and you're like, okay, that's clearly red meat for the base, but that's probably not going to happen. But with this, where it's like, there's obvious, there's obvious smoking gun. Like,

it's obvious they did these things. The DOJ is currently investigating. It really does feel like, We're talking in circles. I feel like so much air is wasted on, well, shows like this talking about what should happen and then nothing happens. And that includes the Obama red herring that Trump threw out there, which was right in the middle of the Epstein scandal. It was just a total distraction that he threw out to the media. And none of these people are going to face consequences for anything. Ever? The people that we're talking about now.

nothing ever. Well, I mean, I think that, I mean... It's just funny to me that the whole campaign was marketed basically on like retribution and that was all a complete ploy. I want to see some more retribution. I want to see some people get locked up. I will say, is a big Trump guy? It's not going to happen. I need to see some high profile overdue lockups. Too bad. There is there is there is there is a I would say we're going to have in crowd. I mean there is there is a difference between like you said kind of throwing Obama out in the middle of like a hot moment versus the DOJ coming out listing specific infractions that James and Schiff have made that they can't that they are currently

investigating like I mean I agree you know I need to see it to believe it but there is like there is a ramp up here and and like what mechanism they'll deploy to actually bring these people in a courthouse I think that that that's a great point and I think that the the idea that we should just have it should be haphazard is is a bad idea and I think that I don't, I don't want to try to predict the future because I don't, I mean, I'm not usually all that could have predicting the future, to be honest with you. But when it comes to, if they're going to do anything like arrest, make any arrests or whatever, their ducks have to be in a row. They have to have everything all together. And I don't think that it happens just as quickly

as, oh, we got into office in January and by May or June, you know, we're ready to go. That's a fair point. And so I, and so I want to see people arrested for the crimes that were fairly obviously committed. I think that, like you said, if, if Schiff was saying stuff when he was on TV as opposed to on the floor of Congress, then yeah, like that kind of stuff he can actually face, you know, face a prosecution for. But if they don't have all their ducks in a row and they don't have the the proper charges and everything, then you're not going to see anything happen from it. And that's a, then it would be even worse than than not doing anything, I think. And to the point of you know what's going to be done the the democrats have shown that they will do

all this stuff and this is a point that we actually harp on a lot around here democrats have shown that they will send the FBI to the president the foreign president's house and arrest you know and not arrest him but search him and stuff and that when they brought when they brought him in they actually had him come in to new york of his own volition so they didn't actually have to you know perp walk him or anything but there were a lot of democrats that wanted that there were a lot of Democrats that were verbally saying, like openly saying, I want to see Trump purple, et cetera. So it's not a good idea for Republicans to just let things go. They should actually make arrests if they have the material, the substance there. Yeah. And they wanted to

perp walk Trump, or they wanted to perp walk Trump for the only reason of just, let's just go perp walk Trump. And these people don't care about the Constitution or the framework of the country or what it was built on or what we're preserving or they don't care about any of that stuff. They just want to perp walk Trump. So at least when we say it, you know, we kind of, we understand the weight of doing that, right? Because we value everything this country is built on. We don't go after political opponents. But if they do it first and they do it under the wrong, you know, pretense, something's got to give. And there's also a difference to like the Democrats prosecuting Trump. The entire intel community is down with that. Like they're ready to rock. You just have to give them permission.

They're like a bunch of rabid dogs ready to do it. With the Republicans, it'd be like pulling teeth. Because even though, yes, you know, Gabbard and Co are shaking up the intel community, you know, you're seeing a lot of security clearance was revoked, a lot of people clean. I mean, Gabbard laid off like half of the DNI recently. Even with that, like still, it's very entrenched. There's still a lot of deep state bureaucrats. It's going to be very hard to get the government moving in the direction of starting to prosecute some of these slime balls. It's just the nature of how the deep state is constructed. And it will take, you know, probably a year or two to really clean house to give it a good scrub and get our people in there.

so you can really start activating and utilizing the weapons that we do have. Yeah. Legal weapons. I mean, yeah, I think that's something that we can all around the table here agree on. So we're going to jump to this story here, and this is actually some good news, in my opinion. From Bloomberg, U.S. to pause issuing worker visas for truck drivers, Rubio says. The U.S. will pause issuance of worker visas for commercial truck drivers. The latest in a series of Trump administration moves to clamp down on foreign workers,

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Thursday. Effective immediately, we are pausing all issuance of worker visas for commercial truck drivers, he wrote. The increasing number of foreign drivers operating large tractor trailer trucks on U.S. roads is endangering American lives and undercutting the livelihoods of American truckers. The Secretary of State's Post didn't include statistics nor specific examples detailing the nature of the threats. However, the move comes after days after a deadly August 12 crash on the Florida turnpike by a driver that was accused of making an illegal. U-turn the Department of Homeland Security said that the driver of the rig was a migrant from India in the country illegally. The Trump administration has repeatedly sought to tighten immigration rules for commercial

vehicle drivers. In May, the Department of Transportation said it would end, it would up enforcement of an English language requirement for drivers following an April executive order from Donald Trump. These things seem so obvious. And it blows my mind that there are so many people that just don't, don't, don't jump right on and say, yes, obviously. This is something we should. This guy was illegal from India.

From India. Okay, and we're surprised that these people can't drive. They don't have traffic laws. Look at any video. Look at like Anthony Bordane visiting India. Look at the B-roll footage that they take of the streets in India. They don't have traffic laws. They bring their, I hate to say it, but they bring their third world, you know, shithole country.

Why would you hate to say that? I want to say that. That's true. Well, it's like I hate to be the bear of bad news, but it's happening in every major city. And unfortunately, it's the reality. So when the Somalians come in to Minnesota, they turn Minnesota into Little Somalia. Okay, they even change the flag.

When the people come in into Texas and the southern states from every single central South American country that they're looking to escape, when they get here, they just turn it into that country. And then the Indians, they don't have any traffic laws. So what do they do to our roads? They turn them into Indian roads. And that's not a racist thing.

That's not a profiling thing. It's just reality. And the reason I hate to say it is because now We have to live with it, and they're all here. How do you undo it all? You know, Trump's going to have to round them up and deport all of them. Every single one of them. It's like, I mean, they can barely drive the tuk-tooks around in India.

They're smashing it. It's like a demolition derby, and they're trying to wheel an 18-wheeler around. I mean, it's ridiculous. I have noticed that the truck drivers are some of the worst driving. Yeah, they're getting worse. Me and Mike are driving from New Jersey to here. And it was like, what is going on? And we're driving past everyone.

It's like, no, definitely not American. definitely not what was going on here it's like when two truck when two tractor trailers are going on a highway at the same speed in two lanes not allowing any cars to go around you I think there's problem yeah go to loves go to loves like anywhere along I81 it looks like a FEMA camp there are no there are no white truck drivers no no white truck drivers it's unbelievable I mean they're DIing everything and and in these states like in California Gavin Newsom said he was going to something about him with the truck drivers like lax the laws. So they become a truck driver in California, but they're going all over the state. So it's the way that Gavin Newsom or anybody in a liberal state can just fuck it up for the whole country because then they just go everywhere and cause accidents. Yeah, this falls right on Gavin Newsom and California and Gavin Newsom policies, right? This guy got into the country through in California. He got his CDL from California. And so in my opinion, the people that have died because of this, it's directly right, like falls right on Gavin Newsom's shoulders.

I'm actually curious. Like, how does a CDL work with state by state, you know? Does it differ by state? You know, is it harder to be a process, yeah. Yeah, and I think that there's a, there's some amount of standardization when it comes to the test. But if I understand correctly, people in California, if you're a foreigner, if you don't speak English, they will actually provide someone to help you. That was one of the super chats we got. I got messages.

I got text messages coming into the show right now from law enforcement, literally watching the show that I know who are seeing me on Timcast right now. and they're saying, I pull over people who don't understand the road signs. Yeah. It's like when they get pulled over, the thing is, you know, you say, oh, what were you doing? You know, you're texting or you're having a couple to drink or the typical American things, right? Now they go, I don't even know what the sign said. Right, right. It's not that they're like, they're not like crazy.

Like, they don't want to hurt anybody. You know the signs? They come from a culture that doesn't care about order. Right. Yes. They don't, like, really register that in their minds. they never will. It's like now with Mad Max Curry Road and all

our roads, when's the last time you heard a woman driver joke? I mean, women are off the hook now because there's these people everywhere. That's the worst thing about it. We have become middle of the road, the women drivers. The Asian drivers aren't even at the bottom of the top of the point. They're like, I'll take one. Now we have

the Indians, the Middle Eastern drivers, the Somali and pirates, okay. They're doing like burnout. Yeah, it's not good. And I'll just say, you know, When you look back, when you zoom out and you just see this whole thing happen, really what's going to happen is the real truck drivers, the American truck drivers, are going to be affected because there's going to be a time with all these, you know, the EVs happening.

There's going to be that time when look at these stats. Look how many people die from trucks. They have to all be automated. And now our biggest economy, you know, it's all going to go away. Yeah, no more truck drivers. That's coming no matter. No more lot lizards. What are they going to do?

Yeah. That's a good thing. Hot lizards. Yeah. Look, I've spent a lot of time. I've spent a lot of time touring. The lot lizards are not something that you want. You want that to stop.

You want that to end. You want to put an end to that, I promise you. Let's go then. That's maybe it's a good. But no, to your point, the driverless truckers, that's coming regardless. It doesn't matter. I mean, that is going to be something in the future. I imagine within 20 years, there will be some congressperson that submits a bill that says we need to outlaw human beings driving.

Under the pretense of what he's saying, it's these people who shouldn't even be the country in the first place, who don't know how to drive in the first place, and then they use that as the pretense to get these driverless trucks and destroying industry that should remain for American white workers. And the craziest thing is like California, like California at Gavin News would be the first person to blame a Red State whenever there's a shooting and be like, oh, well, their gun laws are the reason that this happened. And then they're issuing CDLs like it's like a library card. Yeah. That's a really good point. Excuse me. This, the, the whole like speaking English to your point earlier about like not being able to read the signs and stuff like that.

That's a point that we made on the show, you know, six months ago, and it actually happened to be like right before Trump said that they was making an executive order. It's like one of the things that I think would be really, is really important is to do all that we can to make sure that the federal government doesn't produce any paperwork or any kind of form in any other language other than English. And if you can't fill out the form yourself, not with an aid provided by the federal government, but if you can't fill out the form yourself, well, that means that you can't get whatever job or assistance it is that you're

trying to get. And the companies like Uber need to be fined for allowing illegals to drive Americans because I recently, I already knew that was a widespread issue and oftentimes, like, they have a citizen make an account and

then their whole like family of illegals is using it. And I had an Uber driver recently who I was directing when I I showed up at the location, and I was like, can you turn left over there? And he literally didn't know the words of right and left. He was like, I was like, do you speak English? He was like, no mommy. He was hitting on you? He didn't know right and left. So, yeah, people are going to die because of this. Also, there was time to prevent this. There was time to prevent the

automation of these jobs. I remember several years ago, like many years before this was really a popular conversation, I think Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro were having a discussion about the automation of truck driving jobs. And Tucker was basically on the side of like, we need to regulate before these jobs get replaced. And then Ben Shapiro basically said, well, that's just capitalism, baby. That's creative destruction. We just have to accept it. He supported it. What a surprise. Well, who's, which is a better option, though? Having a bunch of immigrants that can't speak English and can't read the road signs or having trucks that actually can follow the road signs, which is better.

I mean, it's clearly better to have automation as opposed to. It's not really, that's a false dichotomy. We can get rid of them. I thought everyone was talking about how we can just do things and, like, we're not doing anything. We're not getting rid of these. We are going to have this crunch as the population declines. like there is a shortage of truckers. There has been a shortage of truckers for a long time.

And then like, yeah, as time goes on, we're going to have massive shortages in these industries. And from the government's perspective, they need, I mean, just for tax, tax recuperation purposes, it's like, okay, we have two options, really, is automation, and that can hopefully increase wages for, you know, the jobs that are still out there, or you flood the country with the third world. And the third world's, the question. People are net cost on the welfare system, though. I agree, but they're never going to learn, the government's never going to learn their lesson. Regardless of – I mean, the entire West has voted year after year.

Every Western country you go, they vote for less immigration, and it never happens. Regardless of what option, what other option you get, I will take automation over flooding the country with third world immigrants every single time. Without a question. I would take that, but in the ideal world, we would get, you know, something happening. That would be in the next three years, we absolutely just round up every single person. And everyone always says, oh, but we want to get the criminals out. But a lot of these people, they're not criminals. better idea. I have a better idea than rounding people up.

To penalize the company? Yeah. Make it illegal to rent to people that are. And if you own a company and you hire illegals, you lose your company. You're absolutely right. And that's something that dry up and they would leave a me. Democrats say all the time, oh, you know, why don't we ever go after the companies? And they're right. Yes. All right. Absolutely right. We should absolutely. Yeah. And I've been saying this on the show for the for a while. Go after the owner. The person that owns this truck that hired this truck driver, he should lose his company. All of his trucks should be auctioned off to his competitors.

He should bear the consequence. He should go to jail for the absolute carnage that happened. Even worse than jail, he should be sent to India, just for like a day. For one day. Yeah, I'd be like, solitary, please. But no, because the thing is, like, you talk about rounding it up, rounding people up. And if you have people having to deal with, if you have, you know, Karen watching ICE, rounding up Miguel, she's going to freak out, right?

she's going to say, oh, you're doing these terrible things. So the real compassionate option is make it so incredibly hard for immigrants that are illegal immigrants that are here to stay here. Make sure they can't find a job. Make sure they can't find a place to live. If you make it incredibly hard for them to live here, then they will leave. And that's the best option. So you don't have to have ICE fighting with people. You don't have to have videos of ICE grounding people up, put up on the Internet,

and then people go after the ICE agents and stuff that, like, it's just. just it's just the smartest and most clean way to do it. What do you thinking? Great ideas penalizing the companies. I agree with that, but it's not mutually exclusive with what the Trump voters were promised and what was it, $150 billion given to ICE in the bill? For what? To move these people to take them and move them out of the country. I'm not saying that we shouldn't, I'm not saying that we shouldn't have people rounded up. What I'm saying is that if you actually want to get rid of, you know, all of the people that's the 10, 20 million that are here? In a way that will last longer than just his

current term, yes. Yeah, that will, if you pass, you pass legislation that says if you hire illegals or you rent a place to live to an illegal, you risk losing your property. I'm just saying it's not mutually exclusive and the time to deport people is way before the midterms, which is why it was so frustrated with people saying it's only been two months, three months, four months, five months. It's only been this long. Like, you have to start immediately.

Every day. And for the record. I mean, basically as soon as the calendar year ends, the only thing anybody is going to be thinking about is submit terms. Then everyone gets like chicken. We can't deport anyone, but we're already not deporting anyone. I actually, for the record, you know, you talk about the ICE videos, I kind of like those videos, you know, where they're all screaming and they're going crazy.

We voted for, I voted for that. Trump cares way too much, he pays way too much attention to the media. I mean, look, I, what is he so afraid of? I understand what you're saying, but, like, you're, you're not thinking about the perspective of people that are, that are in Washington and how the actual process is done, right? Like, I know, I would, you're like, well, the compassionate option so that Karen's don't see these videos that make them cry is for us to do this. Well, yeah, the more compassionate option is having compassion toward the American people. Oh, I mean, that's. Well, it's like it, look, the American people are going to vote for, the, the American people don't like to see that.

That's why I'm saying to not have those videos go up, because that will make the American, that will make people that are a little on the queasy side when they see people get wrapped up. That will make them change their opinion. And you don't want them to change their opinion. You want to get the people out. The most important thing is getting the illegals to leave. And the best way to make sure that you can get the illegals to leave is to not have those videos up because then you'll have people say, ooh, I don't want to see that. I'll go vote for the Democrat because that hurt my feelings.

You don't want that. Like that's the reason why you don't want those videos going up. And whether or not, like I know that you don't have that same kind of queasiness and people around here don't have that same kind of queasiness, but there are a lot of people that do. And they're swing voters. So if they're swing voters and they're the ones that are queasy, you need to make sure that they don't lose the stomach for this. And the best way to do that is to not have videos of ICE agents wrapping people up.

To his point, you know, they could have avoided the high school graduations. They could have avoided the high school graduation. That was not the best look, you know? I mean, it's true. There's something to be said about flooding the zone, though, where it's like you just go crazy, like just really go, like, mask off the first few months, like, go to the high schools, like just throw like random kids in band and stuff. Because it's like, then by the time the midterms, seriously, no, hear me out.

Yeah, the cycle changes. That's your, yeah, because by the time the midterms come, like, Rogan's already thrown his fit and everything. And then it's like, then we're good. Like everyone's at ease. everyone's like and everyone always says when they see that video they always say well I really want the deportations but start with the criminals and they say okay so you're right yeah so you know what yeah well in the first two months three months flooding they should have just they should have flood the zone yes beat the shit out of everybody deported them out as viciously as possible and the attention span of these carons are so short

that they would forget all about that and be mad about whatever you know the democrats talking about abortion rights and i think they're doing that to some degree because it's like there was this video yesterday of some guy in DC getting dragged out of his car and like the lips freaked out for like a few hours and then of course it came out and he was a pedophile obviously that just happens all the time it's like I'm seeing the react yeah you're not seeing as many kilmar's now you're not seeing as strong of a reaction for the left I think there is a there's an aspect where they're demoralized like that's 100% true but I think there also is an aspect where the average American like the people like in like Joe Rogans the guys that came out early and really

upset about the deportations they're kind of like whatever they're used to it now their stomachs have adjusted because like the reality is Americans are very vibes based people like okay yes polling wise Americans want mass deportations but also Americans don't want to watch videos like Phil's saying of people getting thrown around and so it's like the only way to really do it is rip the band-aid flood the zone and I think I think that is actually what's happened I think we're past the Kilmars I don't think we're going to get many of our stories anymore you're I don't think that any of us around the table are arguing about what needs to be done or what should happen it's just a matter of how it's going to be done

and the velocity apparently of how fast it's going to happen and to be honest with you look I don't know exactly the details about how the fund how funding works the argument that you heard from the Capitol from Capitol Hill was that the Big Beautiful Bill needed to be passed because the funding was in it they didn't have the money to pay for pay ICE to do this stuff

and if that's the case then you know nothing could be done before that was passed and when did the bill the Big Beautiful bill passed three weeks or four weeks ago a month ago I made the fourth It was July 4th. July 4th. It's been over a month. They got $150 billion now, so it should be...

We are seeing... I mean, they're opening up massive complexes every week now. I mean, we've seen... There's two in Florida now. Nebraska, they're building a massive one. A massive one in Indiana. So the bed space is increasing. They're ramping up.

Like, the deportations are finally starting to head north again. Why do they need beds? Like, just take them and put them on a plane. You do have the process to... I mean, like, I hate it. I wish you could just build a slain. shot and launch them. But, like, you do have to process them. You've got to figure who they are, what their names are, like, where they're from. And that requires bed space to detain them

for a temporary amount of time. And then also, now you see a proposal. Like, there was a story, I think it was an NBC News today where Kirstie Nome is exploring, just buying planes outright. Because contracting these planes, chartering these planes, is very expensive. And it's like, if we just had her own fleet, we could be, you know, launching it out every day. It makes you... You could sell her watch and she could buy it. you look if she buys if she will buys the planes you know that she's going to be wearing a captain's outfit when she buys them oh i love that whatever she needs to do and holding a rifle it's we're going to jump to this uh this story because it's basically the same topic here uh from the

ap Trump administration is reviewing all 55 million foreigners with u.s visas for any violations Washington the Trump administration said Thursday it is reviewing more than 55 million people who have valid u.s. visas for any violations that could lead to the deportation part of a growing crackdown on foreigners who are permitted to be in the United States. In a written answer to the question from the Associated Press, the State Department said all U.S. visa holders, which can include tourists from many countries, are subject to continuous vetting with an eye towards any indication they could be ineligible for permission to enter or stay in the United States. Should such information be found, the visa will be revoked, and if the visa holder is in the United States, he or she would be subject to deportation. The U.S. will also stop issuing worker visas for commercial truck drivers. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Thursday,

on X. He said the change was effective immediately. So the fact that there are 55 million visa holders is awful. It should be 5,000. It is. We all found out this afternoon. Did you see the timeline this afternoon when the story dropped? And everyone was like 55 million. So think about this. 55 million foreigners with visas, right? And then an additional 20 million that are here illegally in the past four years. So 75 million people. There's only 335 million people. We're almost in a third of the country. Yeah, 335 million people. And also, this is what they, this is how they figure out apportionment for Congress. This is, they count all, they will count all of those people.

I'd be willing to bet anything that they're counting visa holders. Maybe they don't count people that are here on a tourist visa, right? But if you're here on any kind of green card or anything like that, you get counted for the census. These people are not Americans and they're, they have, and to say that, oh, they only dilute the voting power a little bit, that is a ridiculous. assertion now because there's 75 million of them and the democrats will say it outright that they want these people to count in the census yeah this is all about that's why they stack them up everyone's like oh i thought the democrats they love the inner city blacks the most but what do they do where do they put the illegals when they come into the country they build uh beds for them in the gymnasiums in like

inner city Brooklyn and they're all right they're all going to stay there so you'd say all right why are the democrat politicians uh pissing off their voting base by putting these illegals like the gymnasiums of the schools where their voters send their kids. And it's because they just want to juice up those census numbers. They want to juice up those census numbers. And when you do that, it also impacts the census and that impacts the congressional districts and how many districts you have. And these Democrat politicians would rather have smaller concentrated liberal districts and more districts of that because for them it's about their votes in Washington. It's not about serving constituents or anything like that. So is that, I think the electoral college, it doesn't

the electoral college also has a weight based on population. It's just reps plus so the electoral college has a weight on that. So they want to tilt it and that's why they fight for it. That's why they don't care about their own voters when they throw in the illegals into those inner cities. That's what I think about it. I mean the whole

point is to affect the makeup of Congress and that is to dilute the voting power and political power of the existing Americans, the American people that are born here, the people that are citizens, the people that have the right to be here, and that have the right to say we reject to this. We don't want you to do this. And that's a big part of why

Donald Trump was elected because the American people don't want this. They understand, even if they didn't understand the technical way that they were doing, the actual method that was being used to dilute their power, they understood that it was happening. And they have for a long time. And I think that's why you had such a turnout for Donald Trump. This is an absolute travesty and I think that the Trump administration shouldn't just review people that have any violations like if they have even the smallest

violation if they have a traffic ticket you go because this is a problem for the voting population of the American people. It's not just oh these you know if they're good that's okay no these people are getting counted in the census and they affect

Congress so these people need to go well not just that like they just change America yeah like we didn't vote on this we want America to be American. We want it to be culturally American. And they do this thing. Like, even Republicans, they'll concede that it's bad on political grounds. They're like, okay, yes, this is, okay, they'll vote you. But it's like, I think it's perfectly valid as an American and as an American that has family here going back hundreds of years to be a little concerned that there's 75 million foreigners here. It's like, I didn't vote for this. None of us did.

So it's like I did. And I'm tired of being gaslit. Like it's a totally irrelevant conversation to have of like the cultural makeup of my country being changed. It also is the, you know, no matter what you do, it'll never change because Republicans made this happen. I mean, in Democrats, but Republicans, too, because this system was built over the last 40 years by Republicans and Democrats. So, you know, no matter who you elect, no matter what they say, oh, vote for me or do this. They say it might never change. And, you know, the problem for me is imagine going to another country and like protesting about anything in another country. So something like this where they're reviewing all of this, I'm sick of seeing protesters who aren't from this country.

Like, what are you doing? This is insane. So this will help that, I think, a little bit. Well, and it's, I mean, because people come here and they impose their will in the United States. I mean, there's a huge difference between, like, the initial settlers that came to this country, even the waves of immigrants, you know, leading up to the Ellis Island wave. Post-Elis Island post the World Wars, the stock of immigrants coming are completely different. They're coming here without the intention of assembly. They're coming here with the intention of changing the country.

And in all fairness, the people that are letting them come into the country give them that command. They're saying, you enrich us. Like, your culture's enriching. We want your culture here. And you're sitting here like, well, what's wrong with American culture? What are we losing by not having a bunch of people from India and Mexico and the Philippines here? It's like, no, we're actually a pretty great country. And they're doing the same thing to the Europeans on steroids.

Oh, yeah. Where they're just actively telling people in England, like, actually, there's no such thing as an ethnic Englishman. Like, anyone can be English. They're like the testing grounds Europe for us. Yeah. It's insane. Yeah, the stuff that's going on in the UK is pretty objectionable to most anybody. And you see it in the way the English people are actually responding.

They're starting to put up actually English flags. And for a long time in my life, I remember hearing from my friends from Europe and stuff, they were like, don't you guys think it's a little silly how many American flags you have put up? Don't you think it's a little silly? And they thought it was a little on the crass side. And I was like, nah, man, I've got a 13 colonies flag from here to here. You know, it's like, just because you lost the war. Yeah, you know. But now, but now I think that there are a lot of people in Europe that are starting to see the value of believing in their nation, believing in their country.

The immigration situation in the UK is dissimilar to ours in that it's more starkly a cultural difference because the immigrants are largely Muslim. The cultural differences are far more noticeable. You could say that Mexican culture and American culture are less dissimilar. similar than Muslim countries and the U.K. It is a racial issue more so in the U.S. And the mandate has been extremely clear from 2016. I believe nine out of 10 people who voted for Trump in 2016 are white people. And the message was very clear.

And yeah, maybe they don't understand the intricacies of how businesses influence the issue. but they're tired of interacting with them. They're tired of interacting with foreigners on a daily basis. They're ornery and rude and inconsiderate. Yeah, I thought these were like people who were fleeing oppression and seeking asylum, but they come in and act like they own the place and shit all over the rules. That speaks to the difference in culture, though. They're like the way what is considered polite here is just not considered polite in different cultures.

I do believe it's because they're interacting with Americans. Yeah, they behave this way. It is vindictive in nature. They size you. up. And like she's saying, I mean, they brought like, what, 50 white South Africans in. And I mean, you would have thought we imported the entirety of the Taliban. Like the way that the leftist media reacted just made it so obvious that it's actually there's a, there is a racial component. And they made it very obvious. They played their hand when that happened. Because the longest time they're denying it. They're saying, no, they're just looking for a better life. And then that came out. And actually, we just hate white people. And we would really like to just breed you out of existence. That's what happened. And I think symbolism matters. And if you go to Europe, I was there last summer. And all of the flags are your. European Union flags. So none of the flags have their own identity anymore. You know, anywhere you go in Europe, they're flying the European Union flag where the flag of their country should be. And I said, why would you fly the flag of this organization that you created? So it's kind of

weird. It's almost like they're taking the identity and just trying to wipe it clean, make it one thing. And, you know, that's the globalist. Right. You know, back to the point of what's going on in the UK. In the UK, they're actually painting potholes with the English flag, the red cross on a white flag they're painting that in the bottom of potholes in order to get the uh the magistrate to come and actually fill the potholes and fix the roads and apparently it's working fairly well but you you do see a lot of people have actually started to fly the the flag and i think that people are actually getting in trouble for it too there there there's a pushback from the from the government itself saying well i don't think that it's about the potholes but more when they're actually flying regular

flags, but they're like, you know, you should take that down because it's culturally insensitive. And the idea that you wouldn't be able to fly your own country's flag in your own country because it might insult someone that is in your country, living off your country's large ass, living off your your benefits and stuff is, I mean, that's ridiculous to me. But in the UK, that's honestly, like, that's the, that's the norm. That's the way that it is. And you could just not leave your house and just tweet something and then. get sentenced to two years in jail.

The guy, wasn't there a guy, and he got sent? What country? Was it in the UK where he said, I don't want my kids getting raped by these, you know, whatever people? The grooming gangs. And they gave them, where was that? The grooming gangs in the UK. And he got sentenced to 20 months in jail. Something like that.

Oh, it happens all the time. They put like 3,000 people a year in jail now for Facebook posts. It's crazy. And what you're saying, it's like, it's actually kind of, there actually is some truth what the government is saying over there, which is, yes, flying. the St. George's flag, the English flag, that actually is hostile towards what is currently the ideology of the United Kingdom's government. It does actually stand. It's like identifying

with your English heritage and culture is a rebellion against the current status. Actually, that's great. To this point, put that up, sirs. This is great. You look, these guys are wearing masks in order to fly the flag of England. That is absurd. Because it is. If you're the government, this is horrifying, seeing people actually identify and be proud of who they are. That's terrifying if you're a bureaucrat. Actually, let's go back and start it from the beginning and look at all, like, you see all these people

that are starting to fly flags. And this, again, I've been to the UK, I think, like 13 or 14 times in my life. And the entire, I've never seen anyone flying the English flag. Like, once in a while, I'd see the Union Jack, but I would never see the English flag. And there was a time where, you know, you know this just didn't happen and again this is not that long ago the last time i was in the

uk was 2019 you know right before covid happened and you wouldn't see this but this is this is actually speak it's it's actually something that's very positive for the country you know they're they're actually standing up for themselves but it does kind of shock me that you have to wear a mask in order to fly your own country's flag you know it's a failed society it's crazy yeah and it's like, I mean, if they can't succeed there, I mean, the UK does always feel like to some degree they're 10 years out of the United States in a lot of ways. I mean, like Brexit was a really good indicator of how the Trump election was going to go. So it's like a lot of people see this in the audience, they kind of roll their eyes and say, well, that's England or they say,

oh, well, that's Canada or that's Australia, like these things. It is true. There is a big difference. The United States is obviously a vastly different culture, even though we are in the Anglosphere. But it is worth keeping an eye on because those trends do affect us to some degree. And we are struggling with the same issue. I mean, Mary noted, okay, the, the Immigration to the UK is culturally far different. I mean, it's like Pakistani stuff. We're getting mostly like Latin American or historically speaking. But it still is fundamentally the same issue.

And the issue now the question people are asking, Charlie Kirk is asking this. He's saying, what is an American? That's a question that has to be answered. And same thing in England. They're having to ask, what is it? Yeah. And I think people are articulating that simply acquiring an illegal citizenship in the U.S. does not make you an American.

Paperwork Americans is what they call them. Yeah. So, I mean, like, look, I think that the United States. United States is different in different from England, from the UK, from Wales. I do think that like the United States doesn't have the same kind of history that the UK does or like England does. England has like, it's a thousand years old, right? Like it's, it's got deep history and there are English people that are English. There aren't the way that Americans are Americans, they're, they're American, they're born here, but it's not that there is a racial component to it. You can say that

there's there is a history that that americans share and that you know paperwork americans aren't that aren't real americans but you if you are from another country and you come here you do actually have the opportunity to become american but it's more about do you believe the things that americans believe right like if you come here and you're just coming here because you want to get some kind of benefit or whatever or you're just looking for a job i don't think that person should be allowed to just come in yeah you know however but if you believe in things like you know the foundational principles that made America, right? Like property rights and the things like that,

then I think it's okay for people to come. But they actually have to buy into being an American. It used to be people that came to America stopped speaking their language for their old, their old, you know, the old country. That's what the Italians said. Stop doing the traditions that they had in the old country and they wanted their kids to become American.

And if that's what you're, if that's the way that immigrant behaves, I'm fine with it. Because, again, we don't have the kind of history where we can see, oh, we have a racial basis in our country. No, that's not true. The country was 90% white until 1960s. I'm sure.

It's absolutely. New York City, New York City up until, what was it, the post-World War II, it was like 95% white. And now it's 28%. You still get the arguments. You still get arguments about what a white person is because Irish and Italians weren't considered white. The idea about wasps, you know, like, the, seriously, like, you can, you can give me the eyes, but it's true.

And that's, that's- We know what's not white. We know what's not American. Like, we can start there and then, and then kind of closing on, like, defining. Also, just because it's a construct that was normalized because there were so many different European ethnicities in one place, doesn't mean that the construct is meaningless. It is meaningful. But the argument about Europeans, that would mean that Mexicans are just as white as any Americans. But we know what a Mexican is, too. They're intermixed with Spanish blood. The Spanish are just as white. The European Spanish are just as white as Italians or Southern French.

Okay, correct. Mexicans are not ethnically the same makeup as Spaniards. They're very similar. They're intermixed. They're like 40% indigenous. Is it that much? with lexkins basically half and half but even still so i mean even still there's a lot of there's not a simple way to say what a white person cartels in the u.s rolling heads and cutting people's

tongues out like aztecs are those people by that those people should get there get you know bombs dropped on their head but you know like if you're actually going to be like if you're killing people the government should wrap you up and throw you in jail obviously that's not a same question it's not coincidence yeah and also like we have to be realistic with immigration policy in the 21st century because like I had Nathan Howard said on the morning show two or three days ago and he made a really great point which is the way an immigrant matriculates into American society now in 2025 is vastly different from like 1935 because in 1935 you get on a boat there's a good

chance that's the last time you're ever going to see where you came from versus now when you come here you have your phone you have your internet you're watching TV and you're in your native tongue from your country you're talking to your family all the time like the digital age makes it very difficult for an immigrant to properly assimilate. immigrants are on the phone all the damn time. They always have FaceTime going. They're on FaceTime all day. And that's part of the reason they can never properly assimilate.

So it's like, I would say it's even... They don't want to assimilate. And they don't assimilate. And I think it was even in the 70s and 80s, New York City was 60, 70%. I just don't understand how it's dropped so dramatically. Oh, you're 70, 80, 90% white through the 70s 80s to now it's in the 20s. If you look at the demographic... I'm just saying to divorce American identity.

from a racial identity is intellectually. I agree. I agree. I agree. If you looked at the demographics of the Bronx over the last hundred years, you thought we like lost war and got in vain. Yeah. It's crazy. I thought we won the war. Yeah, what's going on? We didn't win? We listened to the Dominican Republic. How?

Yeah. They can't even be Haiti. Herald us moved in. kicked out the Italians. Yeah. No, it's 100% true. Like, there is a to downplay the European contribution to the United States or really the European foundation of

the United States. It's just a massive disservice. And that's why I mentioned earlier that 90% of Trump's voters in 2016 were white voters. The message was very clear. We're white people. We have this candidate who is promising us. He will remove these foreigners who do not look like us from the country and build a wall so he can make sure that they don't come back. And that's what they voted for. And they didn't get that in 2016.

They didn't get what they were promised. It sounds like up until now because they're not getting deported. Last deportations are not going to happen. They're not happening and they're not going to happen. I don't know. I don't know that they're not going to happen. I don't think that they're going to be deporting just based on race. Like they're not going to round.

Of course, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that what white voters were voting for in 2016, being nine out of ten of Trump's base, they were voting for people who are culturally and ethnically dissimilar to them to get removed. And also for them to stay away. Yeah, the point that I'm making is that that isn't going to, like, that's not happening. Like, that's not going to happen. And I don't think that Donald Trump was ever actually offering that.

But look what activated, look what activated this campaign in 2024. I mean, going to 20, like, the energy in the Trump campaign was starting to struggle a little bit going and fall into the election around the debates. And then Springfield, Ohio happens. Like, right? There's like an anon on Twitter says, they're literally, there's a video of them eating your cat. And that, like, overnight Trump skyrocketed in the polls back to where he was. It was great.

Yeah, so it's like there is, there is this feeling among Americans that it's like our country is starting to look very foreign and very unfamiliar and that causes a lot of anxiety. And Mary's point is, is that is directly associated with the whiteness and the Europeanness of the country. The prior America. And that's a very, and that's a very fair point. Yeah. And it's not, and like what she's saying and what we're saying is not ridiculous at all. Because it's like I would expect someone in like in Haiti to feel this way, right? I would expect someone in China to feel this way.

Haiti don't have time to feel like this. Well, I mean, they're running away from other people that are... Maybe Haiti's, but like in China or Japan or Saudi Arabia, like, they have the right to be like, yeah, I'd like my country to stay earlier. Yeah. Yeah. Every other country talks like that. Yeah, except Western ones.

Except for Western, yeah, except for Western countries. And Haiti. I don't think that I would consider Haiti a Western country. Yeah, barbecue. You know, when you think, when you think Socratic method, you think... Barbecue? I mean, the Haiti guy? Yeah, the Haiti guy.

Haiti's about it. as much of a basket, or about as emblematic of a basket case country as you can come. It's kind of like Maryland. Yeah, they can't even build a bridge, man. Yeah. You know? There's like boats blowing up all the time. Like, what's going on?

And the dogs and cats was the best part of the Trump campaign. And I remember, like, I remember how low energy it was starting to feel. And I'm the biggest maga guy. Like, I'm pretty much a shill for the admin. And, and I remember going in, like, it was, it was like, oh, no. Like, this Kamala hot swap's going to work. and then that happens and everyone like remembered they were like this is what mag is about is making america taking it and making it great again and we don't want to see like Haitians eating if you're

from the Midwest you've and you're from a small town you've seen this happen like my family comes I'm not going to say which town but a town in Illinois and it was swapped you go there now and there's no one left and they were hot swapped for these people from like you don't know where they're coming and the cats are gone too and the cats are gone and it wasn't never mind and the guy barbecue no yeah um all right we're going to jump to this story from ABC. Trump joins police, military, in D.C. as he pushes deployment in more cities. President Donald Trump joined police and military in Washington, D.C. on Thursday to oversee

the surge in federal law enforcement and National Guard who are responding to what he says is a crime emergency in the district. Trump left the White House in the presidential limousine, nicknamed the Beast, with U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi, White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, Thursday afternoon, and were driven to the U.S. Park Police, Anacostia. operations facility in Southeast D.C. They need a copy editor there. There he spoke with law enforcement members and military personnel and touted the deployment. It's great to be with you. You guys are doing a fantastic job and gals doing an amazing job. He told the crowd who he said were a healthy, attractive looking group of people. It was not immediately clear if Trump would actually walk the streets with the police and military personnel. The president mobilized

the National Guard one week ago to assist the police claiming crime was out of control. Officials have said guard personnel are not making arrests, only helping to detain people briefly, if necessary, before handing them off to law enforcement. Violent crime levels have decreased compared to years prior, down 26% since 2024, a 30-year low, according to crime stats, released by the city's Metropolitan Police Department. Every single person that I hear talking about this, that actually dives a little deeper into these kind of numbers, is like, this is all BS. The idea that crime is down is BS. It was just a last month, I think someone was fired or put on leave. for for faking numbers coming out of DC people don't report crime the way that they used to

because crimes are not being like no one's getting arrested and if people do get arrested they get released again because you got bad DAs and bad bad people bad judges so the idea that they're actually at a 30 year low people don't buy it even if even if it is even if it is lower people don't believe that it's at a 30 year low they don't feel that in normally and you see that in the response that people people are having to Trump's, you know, use of the National Guard. This is extremely popular with the American people, particularly the people in D.C. You see people putting up TikToks and videos and stuff all the time saying they feel like

they can go to the gas station and they're not going to get their stuff stolen. They feel like they can drive around with their window open and no one's going to try and jack their car. So do you guys think that this is just a stunt Donald Trump walking out there? Do you think this is something good where he's actually being on the ground with people that are actually enforcing the law? What's your take on it? Well, I think we must deputize this man.

Donald Trump must be deputies. Let him shoot one person. They shot him. Can he shoot one person? It would send a message. He deserves so many people. You know, if you're in jail in and out more than like 15 times, you really aren't any value to society or drag on the system, let him shoot one criminal in the act.

It's not even that big of a deal. They don't even notice we're gone. They don't even notice he's gone. Also, even if the people in D.C. weren't okay with this, like, who cares? Because we're sick and tired of our cities being, like, total dumps. And the people living there are the reason they're a total dumps. So it's like, even if they were like, everyone was in total disarray and they're super angry, it's like, hey, it's our capital. We're going to do what we want with that, right?

Yeah. So. And just seeing one of those TikToks of, you know, I watched one of the black woman with her window open. She's just like, finally, I can just, I'm out of red light. I know I'm not going to get robbed. This is incredible. It's like, what a life. Yeah, it's that black woman versus Jasmine Crockett who said, this is the most. racist thing I've ever seen.

So it's racist that you're curbing the ability for black people to kill each other and then of any other race of people and just shoot each other in the street. So that's the racist part. So it's Jasmine Crockett versus based black woman in the car on Tintana. I'm almost considering walking around D.C. at night. You should. I might do it. Well, it's funny that they, that like, the left, you know, the left's hypocritical.

I know. It's shocking. But they made like the most overt racist statement out of anyone in the last week where they like, we're like, hey, the crime in Baltimore and D.C. and Memphis is pretty bad. And they're like, that's so racist to point that out. And it's like, these are the blackest cities in America. You made that point. Not me. I mean, I'll make that point. Some white guy who lives in D.C. made another one of these TikToks about about it. And he was running, he was on a run at night around D.C. and talking about his observations. I have no idea if any of it is true because he didn't. provide evidence, but he said that when he saw some of the militarized police on a street corner, one of, he saw, I saw this, this black mother walking with her son and she said to her son, hold my hand, sweetie. You don't want them to get any bad ideas. You don't want any trouble with these guys. The black mother said that to her son. To her son, who he said was like, you know 12 years old or something

like they're just about to start like randomly arresting black people for walking on the street like literally like walking while black like modern that's the modern Rosa Parks of our time if you know you'll wait until the Trump drive by starts

if you know about the Rosa Parks about that I mean the husband had a car you had a car what do we think Rosa Parks might have had a car I don't know very wealthy husband yeah I don't yeah you know you know that To Mary's point, to Mary's point, that notion is what fueled an entire summer of riots in the country.

Like when George Floyd was killed, the argument that people were making was, oh, black people are getting, you know, gun down in the streets by police. And even people like LeBron James was saying, they're out here hunting us. This was a total, this was a total fabrication. I mean, it's true. He said it. It's a total fabrication, and that's why that's what the justification was for an entire summer of looting, burning cities, destroying property, and people realized too late, of course, that it was BS, and that's why there's been such a backlash, or that's why so many people have stopped caring about things like Black Lives Matter. Everyone saw what kind of scam that was, the money that the people that were running it stole. They had, all you had to do is say that you were giving your money to Black Lives Matter

or you had some Black Lives Matter affiliated organization and you could run ads and people were just scamming the crap out of everybody. Oh yeah. The money that was going to BLM was going to like non-binary homeless shelters or something. Like it was so insane. It was all garbage. And it ended up going and just just going in people's pockets like the people that were the, you know, the leaders.

Yeah, Patrice Colors. Yeah. Patrice's on Match. They had, you know, they had, you know, they had. mansions and multiple homes and stuff in L.A. and stuff. And it's like that kind of idea is still around. And it's something that, honestly, it needs to be, it needs to be remedied. And you can't just stamp it out of people. You know what I mean? You can't just be like, you can't beat people up over the, beat people over the head and be like, you're wrong. This isn't the way. They just

dig their, their heels in. But that attitude is something that comes with all the DEI stuff, with all of the critical race theory stuff, the stuff that Donald Trump is taking out of the Smithsonian, all the stuff that they're taking out of the museums. We talked about this the other day, the whiteness stuff, the idea that white people are evil and after black people and stuff,

it's a ridiculous idea, but it's what fuels, it fueled Ferguson back in 2013, it fueled the George Floyd riots, and it's a literal cancer in this country. These ideas are a literal cancer that will destroy this country. The biggest enslavers of black people are black people.

So, I mean, that's like, so they are on themselves. I actually like what Trump's doing with the museums. I think that's good. Absolutely. I think that it sends a message. And what he's doing in D.C., I like what he's doing in D.C. Because it's the only city where you could, like, instantly do it. You know, I mean, New York City is going to hell.

But, like, in these other cities, they try to fight. They try to have elections. You know, Republicans maybe win one out of every 10 times in these, you know, blue cities. But in D.C., you can kind of just do it. so he's all right it's a city we can do it so let's just do it yeah and i think it's good i remember i think it was during 2020 during the riots when they would have these like these and these big instagram posts where they would be like it was like mostly black celebrities and they'd be like i just had to have the talk with my son and it was like this thing

where they would basically just make them paranoid of police like at a really early age so it's like like you're saying it's like okay we can blame we can blame you know what's happening in school and that's obviously a big problem that needs to be stopped. But it's like also within the black community. They are like traumatizing themselves by like what, there's like six unarmed black men get shot a year. And that's what they're on about. 12 or 13 average.

Oh, yeah, 12 or 13. My bad. In a country of 334 million, 12 or 13 black people that are unarmed or shot. And then you have LeBron James with a book that he never read. He will not read. He's perpetually on page. That's kind of relatable, though. I'm pretty performative.

reader as well. That's relatable with him. My my macha and my book that I don't read. And him going to the ditty parties was not relatable. Definitely not at all. Definitely not relatable. Here's what I can't get over about 2020 though. Is just why didn't Trump crack down on it then? I completely agree. He should have. I agree.

I still hold it against him. I don't think that Trump was aware because I don't think What? Well, okay. You don't think Trump was aware that people were right in every major city. Oh, okay, no, I'm sorry. I thought I thought you were talking about something else. That's why I was... I was wondering why wouldn't he crack down with militarized police or the National Guard then?

Well, because he didn't have... It was a rare Trump bell. Yeah, there's just no excuse for it. He maybe thought, this is going to make the left look so bad that I'll win and go back. I was told that that's what... I've heard that he was told by many people, like, this is just making you look really good, let it go on. I think that was poor. Not that that's a good answer. I mean, I guess they were going to steal it regardless, but...

that's why he's cracking down now he's learned his lesson such bad bad advice and to be honest with you like I don't know who was in his ear you know his first presidency but it was not a situation

like Trump was totally unprepared for winning in 2016 and he brought on terrible people and thankfully the four years that he had you know when he was not the president he learned a lot and he listened to people and he talked to people that that you know we're not insiders

that actually had a wise view of how things work in Washington, not an inside view that was looking to benefit themselves. And he listened to him and you see it. You saw it when he was running. You saw it the way that he ran up to 2024 to get elected. And you see it now in the way that he's actually executing because the whole, as much as you don't think that he's doing enough to get people out of the country, he's doing way more than he was doing in 2016.

Also, they said, I think back. then they were saying, oh, you know, you don't have the jurisdiction to do this or you can't send in the National Guard. And I think like if Los Angeles is an example of, you know, Trump in 2016 versus 2024 or 2020 rather in 2024, I think he just sent in the National Guard into LA unilaterally. Like he didn't go through the process. Last time he was, I guess, being told that he couldn't do it. I totally thought he should have done what he did in L.A. and just quelled it immediately because nobody deserves to live in a, you know, city that's getting burned down. But he didn't.

But I guess in L.A., he learned his lesson. Would you say that he did it better in L.A.? Because he just didn't listen? He just said, all right, I'm just sending the man. Don't care. Sue me. And look, the amount of actual contact that the National Guard had to have with the population in L.A. was almost none.

You didn't see National Guardsmen actually fighting with the crowds. It was the police. And the National Guard were just there making sure the police could do their jobs. I don't remember seeing any video of dudes in, in multi-cam fighting with dudes hardly ever. There were a handful of times where they were, they had gas masks and they had shields. But it wasn't like they were holding people down. They were just preventing the rioters from attacking the police.

They weren't wrapping people up at all. That would have been really popular at the base if he did that. I mean, people, the anger during the L.A. riots, the recent ones, were like, was so palpable. Like, you would speak to just your average, you know, your average Trump voter. And they were furious. They were like, no, please, we're so tired of this happening. and then like just please crack down on this and we wanted to see like Stephen Miller

deployed like Darth Vader like emerging from the mob of National Guard like that's what we want that's what the base wants I mean that's what the base wants I understand that but that's not that's not good optics and I know that that's not a popular thing to say around this table tonight but the fact of the matter is the fact of the matter is those things do matter because if you lose public support you don't have the ability to do anything you listen Donald Trump

as long as he's got public support he can do whatever he wants and I think that Barack Obama was an example of that. He had public support and he got away with all kinds of stuff. He got away with not even being born here. Literally. But that's to my point. If you have popular support, the president can get away with all kinds of things. But you have to do it in a smart way that keeps the popular support.

If you just do things that's unpopular with the American people, the American people will turn against you and then you can't do anything. That's just the truth. I know that there are people that want, you know, wanted to be Darth Vader and come out and do all this stuff and blah, blah, blah, and I get it because that's what I would like to see, but that's not, that doesn't function in reality, you know, that can. You mean in the way that that affects his current term or the way that that affects electability for the next Republican way that it affects the people that, the people on the street, you like, if he did something that was really beyond the pale, there would be enough people in the street to make it look like he's done something that the whole. of the country doesn't like. And, I mean, he would lose support. He's got like 52% approval rating now. If he got down to 35%, like he wouldn't be able to do anything, anything that he does. He would get protests and people out on the street. And that would also motivate and

inspire the left. I mean, that's a problem. You do have the Cs to a certain degree because the left is completely demoralized right now. They have no leadership. They don't know what's going on. And then also the USAID money's dried up. So like half of their mechanisms they can't even use right now. And so it's like, and I do think Trump is doing a great job of this, but it is like, yes, now is the time to execute. Now is the time but your foot on the gas because like you said, this window. I mean, you know, knock on wood, what if we lose the midterms? Now we're dead in the water. And again, this is not me disagreeing with any of the points that you guys have made or or having like some kind of strong disagreement about what should be done. I'm just trying to talk about the reality of the situation and how things have to be, how the things have to work in the United States. I don't like. talking about real. I know you don't marry. You're ruining the fun. The reality is actually that Democrats are going to almost certainly win a majority in the House in the midterms. That's why he should do all the redistricting. They are going to attempt impeachment no matter what he does. That's why the redistricting battle matters because if we can pry pick off six to eight seats, I think that keeps

your house majority because like I mean you are correct like as it stands right now there is better than nothing chance that like yeah the democrats retake the house so that's why we need to get this across not better than nothing i mean in my mind it's like over 50 i'm a little i'm a little worried about it because it to your point if you look at what's going on right now in the senate like there's a sentence in recess everybody's in recess for the summer and they're calling these like i don't know what they call them but there's a name for it uh pro forma sessions or whatever so trump can't make recess appointment yeah you know what i'm talking about so he has 160 plus people who have been appointed into very important spots that cannot get into the spots because they're waiting for

their Senate confirmation. So Thune, who is the Senate leader, is calling these pro forma sessions so Trump cannot make the recess appointment. So if the if the Congress, that's the Senate in House, is out for a certain amount of time, the president can appoint them for like 180 days or something. So that'd be great. But they're putting the House in session, the Senate, for a day or for an hour or whatever so Trump can't do it. Why isn't Trump freaking out about that? And are those the people who are going to be backing Trump when the Democrats take the House and they try to impeach them?

Who's backing them up? How are we going to get anything done in the last two years? We're basically running until the end of this year because when the election season starts, all these swing district Republicans are going to be massive pussies because they care about winning the R plus one or the D plus two that they hold. So we're not going to get things through.

They're going to start talking mushy. It's going to become disjointed. So I think you make a great point. I mean, the House members are already freaking out over to the Texas redistricting. Like Kevin Kiley, he's a congressman out of California Republican. Well, he's saying that for his own purposes. Yeah, he's like losing his mind because like the national GOP is trying to make a move and he's just trying to save his own seat.

I'm like, we're just not locked in at all as a part. I mean, it's like great. The Trump admins, you know, firing all cylinders to a large extent. But like the House GOP is still plagued by the same problems that have plagued us for a very long time, which is people look out for themselves and not the country at large. Well, that's the problem. I mean, look, that's the problem with representative government. Like they're going to look out for themselves.

They're going to look out for their constituencies. The problem, another part of the problem with representative government is there's no reason for us to have federalized all of this crap that we do. All of this stuff that's, you know, that's nationwide and stuff. We are in a different world now than we were 250 years ago. But like the idea of having the same laws in Massachusetts and Florida and California, It's just ridiculous if you go by what the founder said. So I don't know that there is a solution, but we were talking about Donald Trump. And we're going to jump to this story real quick from the post-millennial.

D.C. goes a full week without a homicide after Trump crime crackdown. Now, I don't know when the last time they went a whole week without a homicide, but I think that that's good. The bar is low. It has March. For the first time in months, Washington, D.C. has gone seven consecutive days. without a homicide following President Donald Trump's federal takeover of the city's police force and deployment of the National Guard. The rare street confirmed Wednesday comes during the summer season when homicide levels are typically at their highest. The last time the Capitol reported

zero killings for a full week was in March. Other crimes have also dropped sharply, according to the figures cited by the local police union. Robbery declined by 46% in the week after the federal control began. Carjackings fell 83%, and overall violent crime was down 22%. The crime freeze began the day after a fatal shooting in Logan Circle, which occurred just hours after Trump announced the move. At the time, Representative Eric Swalwell said on social media that Trump owns this. Critics have since noted that the statement could apply to the decline as well. Of course it could. Law enforcement saturation in high crime areas has drawn comparisons to tactics used in New York City in the 1990s under then Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

When murders fell by more than half in his first term, observers pointed out that the deployment of the National Guard outside D.C.'s Union Station, long hotspot for homelessness and drug activity as an example of the new approach. I think that this is something that is just overall positive. I don't think there's, I don't think there's a downside. You know, I don't think that there's anybody that can say, oh, here's the bad thing. I want the Democrats to keep complaining about it because it just reinforces the fact that they're totally unsurious and actually have no policies to talk about other than Trump bad. But that's the same thing that they've been talking about for ages. There's only so many times that the American people can hear he's a threat to our democracy and actually think that it means something.

They've lost, they've definitely lost the swing voters. Trump's approval rating last I saw again, was it like 52 or something like that, which is sky high for Donald Trump and conservatives, especially in such a polarized time. Yeah, I mean, this is just an example of you can just do things, right? I mean, it's very obvious they've taken a page out of El Salvador here. I mean, El Salvador was just like a total disaster zone. And Buckel is just like, oh, you can just like end this. Like this is crime is optional. And 2025, it is a policy choice.

Yes. It is optional. The left loves crime because they love filth and they hate their fathers and they hate America. They hate themselves. They hate themselves. They hate beauty. And what is more beautiful than like Union Station, right? Union Station is a very beautiful place, very dignified to take a train in the Union Station.

Until you see homeless people pooping everywhere. I mean, it looks like India. It's a total disaster. So it's like, no, this is beautiful. This is beautiful. I have a clean, nice train station. The left hates this. Left hates all of this.

So, yeah, you can just do things. Violent criminals only understand the language of violence. And people, especially on the left, but more generally, have misgivings about criminality and what makes criminals criminals. They need to understand that violent criminals are ontologically criminals. And they will be criminals for the rest of their lives. That's who they are. That's what they are. They cannot be rehabilitated.

They cannot be social worked into being functional human beings in society. That's just what they are. They are ontologically criminal and they will never change. So they have to be dealt with with fear and with violence because it's the only thing they understand. It's the only thing they respond to. We had Zieg Arkham in here a couple days ago and he's a former law enforcement. I think he's actually retiring. And one of the things that I said to him was like, look,

You know, you know, tell me if I'm wrong, you know the actual bad actors in your area. If you're a police officer and you're, you know, patrolling the same area, they know exactly who the bad guys are. They arrested them 20 times. Yeah, exactly. The reoffense rate for violent criminals is two out of three. Yeah. It's, so the way to deal with violent crime is arrest those people and put them in jail. If you do that, you can actually get crime, even in poor places, because poverty does not drive crime.

crime, but crime does drive poverty. This is a point that Sean, the, what's his, he's, uh, what's his name, um, actual justice warrior on YouTube, shout at to Sean. What? The Cheryl? Sean, yeah, Fitzgerald. That's it. He makes this point all the time.

If you have an area that is high crime that will drive businesses out, that will drive businesses out, that will drive investment out, that will drive all of the good things about a society out of the area. But if you have, if you go in and you take care of the crime, there is money to be made in providing low-cost housing to people that don't have a lot of money. There is money to be made in putting in bodegas or shops for people that don't have a lot of money to go somewhere and buy the things that they need. But if you have a high crime area, no one wants to invest because they're going to lose their money. They're going to lose their investment.

Poverty does not drive crime, but crime does drive poverty. There are poor places all over the world that have lower crime rates than places like D.C. And they're poor. But they're not criminal because they're not inherently criminal people. And it doesn't take very much to actually wrap up the criminals and throw them in jail. Well, when you're dealing with a place like D.C., someone's rights are going to get violated. It's either the criminals or it's the innocent people just trying to go for a walk and not get, you know, knocked over the head. So it's like if someone's rights are going to get violated, it should be the criminals.

Like, sorry. I mean, it's unreal that we have to deal with this. in the United States. In every city. In every city where places like Baltimore and St. Louis and Memphis have crime rates equivalent, if not worse,

I was actually looking at the stats. Our violent crime rate in Baltimore is worse than Johannesburg, South Africa. What? How is this tolerable? It's absolutely ridiculous. I mean, in the people in New York City, I mean, New York City,

nobody takes the subway, for example, especially after a certain time because they're worried about rising instances of people getting pushed on the tracks. So then they tell, okay, can't do the subway. They take the bus. Do they drive and pay this congestion fee thing? So they're stuck without a choice. And I say, you're accepting the fact that the criminals are running the system. Like, you can't take the subway because you're worried about crime. You can't walk

these blocks because you're worried about the crime. And they just keep voting for it. And the criminals are the ones running the system. And now people say, hey, do I either pay the money? Because New York City passed a congestion tax. So if you come into the city, you now pay $9 a day. So these people pay either $9 a day. Or they could take the money. the public transit. And to take the public transit, they got to run the risk of getting violently assaulted or anything like that, particularly at nighttime. And so I'm going to get worse. Who is that maniac that Daniel Penny? Neely. His name is Jordan Neely. Jordan Neely deserved it. That case specifically showed me how hilarious it is that people like ascribe this deep textured

interior life to the criminal. But he doesn't have one. He was a Michael. Jackson impersonator. The criminal only acts. He does not think. He doesn't premeditate. He just does. And the criminal would absolutely obliterate any of the white liberals defending him on television or the black liberals. He had mental health struggles. I don't know. What is he thinking when he when he threatens to murder everyone on the train? Like I don't know. Like I didn't have a good relationship with my father. Like what is what do they ascribe to this man's interior life that that they think this can be explained away with, like, childhood trauma or something. Yeah.

Like, what do they think he was missing in life, like, how he ended up like this? Like, what he didn't, he got, like, rejected for a job or something. It's heartbroken, you know? Maybe he's a sensitive young man that could be. Yeah, exactly. I heard this guy in New York City that was on the subway, and another guy was, like, heckling this woman, and the guy went in, stepped in to stop it, and the guy who was heckling the woman slashed this guy with, like, a box cutter on his,

face slash his face up fast forward like a month or two later they go to court and when he goes to court the woman who he helped was actually siding with the criminal who slashes i mean that's new york for you guys that's new york yeah it makes it you have no incentive and they want it like that no incentive you go listen these people are all fucked up they're liberal if somebody's getting harassed you i'm just going to mind my own business it's not me and i'll just let it happen and that's like a you're you're taking away the culture the new york culture the new york culture the humanism, the humanic nature of it. You have no type of community or semblance of, you know, we're all in this together.

And that is destroying what it is to be an American, right? You're not American at that point. You're just like a vessel in this like Gotham City type of deal, trying to survive, trying not get hit by an Indian trucker, you know, trying to not get slashed on the subway, every man for themselves. And there's no sense of community. Nobody speaks the same language. Nobody looks the same.

Yeah. The acts the same. And these ungrateful bitches. are going to testify against you. You're trying to be a hero. I was hoping you were going to say fast forward, two months later, they go on a date, hit it off.

That'd be kind of nice. Now they have a baby. So what mode of transport is safe in American? You can't take the train because of the schizophrenic crackheads. You can't drive because you'll get smacked into by an Indian, you know, semi-truck. You can't fly because you'll get hit by like a

Black Hawk Island. Can't Uber because you can't afford it. You can't Uber. You can't ride the bus because not good smells you'll get kicked out of your seat too yeah that too yeah so it's like and the smell yeah it's very bad people just sleep on the bus you can't bike because bikes that's just gay you can't do that so it's like what what are we supposed to do as americans our rights are being violated in every direction that's when you know things are going wrong there's a lot of bicycles there's a lot of scooters coming back it's true people are willing to endure the heckling i mean i're you know

the sidewalks one thing but i'm like you know this is your this is your oh i saw someone rocking haley is the other day i mean that if that doesn't tell you how bad crimes get and i don't know what will I don't know what will. We're almost at the end times. We're swirling the drain. Yeah. Helies, really? That's a recession indicator if I've ever seen one.

Your car is always the best option. Just, you know. My car specific? No, not your car. Your own personal vehicle is always the best option. You don't want to park it anywhere. Pardon me? You don't want to park it anywhere in the city, though.

Yeah, car jack. Cinder blocks. Get put on cinder blocks. That's the thing. We cannot resign ourselves to the idea. Like, just don't go to cities, don't live in cities. Right. engage with cities. We cannot give it up.

And by the way, the nicest areas in this country, like the nicest areas, the best objective real estate. I'm not talking about what they do to it, but the best real estate, there's none of our, like nobody speaks English in those places, you know, it's none of our people. I think no people speak English in Calabasas. Well, I'm talking about on the east coast

in New York because I live on the waterfront between New York and New York and New York and New York City, and well, in New York City, in the best areas in New York City. Nobody in the parks, nobody in the places speak English. They're all Muslims or they're all Indians or they're all Koreans. And where I live specifically, it's the stretch of the water overlooking Manhattan. And I look at it and I walk around and nobody is talking about. Yeah, people are like. I understand a place like California that might not be.

Well, it's like New York. And people are like, how could, how could someone like Zoron get in? I'm like, you don't, you don't know. Have you ever been to New York City? Like walk around? I mean, like it's like a bizarre there. I mean, it's crazy. Me and my wife go to Monta. every year and every year I'm telling you it gets worse and worse with like when you go to a restaurant you look around and like there's like russian people speaking russian people speaking japanese every year it gets less and less american and it's like people can't afford it out here that's part of that's we're becoming like the tijuana of like every mall going to be serving the visitor yeah every mall literally every mall in northern virginia is

like a model u.n now i mean it's like a total disaster and it's not even i'm not even concerned about delinquency it's like these people could all make more of the to me. That's perfectly fine. It's that it's not American. I'm in America. I want my children to grow up in a country that looks like America. And that's devastating that my inheritance is being robbed right before my very eyes. Yeah. I mean, look, there's there's, and there's a lot of young people that feel the way you do, you know, there's. That's why we're all like radical schizzoes. I'm normal. I'm like a moderate, but just a sensible conservative. Well, yeah, a sensible conservative. Fair enough. But I mean, I do think that that that

that actual perspective that you're articulating, I think that that's something that is it's extremely popular nowadays and I think that that's part of why Donald Trump has been so successful

like he was what is it? Like he had like what was his numbers with Gen Z? It was like almost almost half which is remarkable. Incredible for a for And like and then they I mean we talked about it on the show

is like there was this poll that came out where Gen Z soured on Trump seemingly overnight and Tim made the point and it's true is like that's not them thinking oh you know Trump's too conservative whatever that's them outflanking him to the right and they're like oh he's not deporting enough people like people do not realize how angry zoomers are about what's been done to their country the argument that donald trump was the moderate option

is a very true statement donald trump is a democrat from the 90s genuinely he's not a far right guy as much as the left wants to cast him as such he is not particularly far right none his policy prescriptions are in any way far right at all and the the American people don't understand what's coming when it comes to when Gen Z is not just um you know is is really politically active now granted there's not a lot of Gen Z like compared to boarded a quarter of us well it was it was estimated 28% of Gen Z was aborted yeah that is almost a billion people crazy it's about 900 million babies that were gen z that were aborted yeah i and trump admin is an olive branch when you hear yeah exactly when you hear stuff like that though i think that that actually

will harden harden at least some people and maybe this is just because i got a baby on the way but like the idea of outlawing abortion seems obvious to me and the idea of possibly outlawing the pill is like well maybe that's what the human race needs because the you know you The fact that the birth rates are down in the United States, it's not just in the U.S. It's globally except for, like, Africa. Yeah, it's like Molly is still above keeping their head above water. But it's like all these theories that people had about like birth rates, they're like, oh, like it's when people go from substance farming to like industrialization, the birth rate drops.

And then like two years ago, India goes sub-replacement. So it's like all that theory, all this social science went out the window. And everyone's like, oh, it's feminism. Oh, yeah. It's actually very simple. It's like the pill, and it's like people comparing themselves to other people. It's actually very simple. And we can fix this by just being kind of mean.

Yeah? Yeah. Like all the social signs went out the window. Literally, I remember like studying this like, you know, there's all this complex economic theory and everything. It's like, oh, it was birth control. And like, yeah, and people get on TikTok and see hot people and like, oh, I don't want to, I'm not going to sell for anyone except that. That's all that's going on. That's the only way you can explain India going sub replacement.

We can never live in a pre-birth control. world again. Like the technology has been unleashed. The asymmetry between men and women has been flattened. We don't know what to do now. Well now there's new birth controls. I think it's called meta, right? And your girlfriend's going to be in the cloud and that's birth control. If Funko pops, no, that's birth control. I mean, it's getting out of control. I agree with her. I think the only way out of this mess

and I hate to sound like, you know, a soapbox person, but it's like religiosity. Christianity. That's the only way out of this mess. Seriously. I don't know that that, not that I think that that won't help, but I don't know that that's going to be a thing for enough people. And I was talking about this, I think it was last night. Like, a lot of the questions that were answered by religion are no longer questions, right? For a long time, for the vast majority of human history, all of the questions that God answered have been answered. What about that's that's an irreligious point of view that it there there hold on let me let me get finish my point because right now people people need religion right religion is more like a language than anything else religion is ubiquitous throughout human history so whether it be it doesn't matter where the people are or how far apart in time they are every single civilization has had some kind of religion and the the seculars of today have replaced God with basically themselves right? That's why there's the whole, the trans stuff is really self-worship, the, because the idea that you can be anything you want.

That's like godlike. The idea that you can create a perfected world, that's a godlike. So really what's happened is the religions that we remember or the religions that came before have been replaced in Western countries with this secular religion. And it doesn't have to have a Christ-like figure, even though the Christ-like figures are what people think of when they think of religion, where they think of a god like the christian god or whatever or the catholic god or the muslim god that's not necessary for religion that is one type of religion but there's all there's all kinds of other religions that have existed in human history and man today in the west has replaced the traditional religions with this kind of secular religion and so whether or not you can convince

whether or not people will believe in the older religions isn't whether or not they will believe in religion. Well, I don't know if it's a question of whether or not Gen Z is going to show any interest in in traditional religion. It's already happening. I just reminded myself of this stat, okay, there was a 6% increase in Gen Z identifying as Catholic, specifically, between 2022 and 2023. That's huge. That's huge. And also, um, but it's Gen Z who are the smallest of generations. The number of church-going young people

is increasingly male. That's never been the case before historically. So now the majority of church-going Gen Zers are male. Because men are the most lost in this modern world. Well, it's because like you said, okay, a lot of these questions are being answered like, okay, where does the sun go, et cetera, et cetera. It's like, that's whatever.

Like, okay, the scientific, we can, we can, that'll be Dawkins and John Lennox can debate that. We'll leave that. That's like the highbrow. stuff. It's the basic question that drives every human being when they go to sleep at night is, who am I? Why am I here? Where am I going to go when I die? And science will never, ever, ever, ever answer that question, ever and God will. Well, I mean, I agree that those questions are basic and that they're fundamental to the human experience, right? I just don't know that people are going to go to God in enough numbers where it would actually change the

crashing birth rates. I mean, that's my point. The other place they're going, they're retreating to basically witchcraft. Well, fair, yeah, I mean. Witchcraft is gaining popularity specifically with women, but also overall, like, it's been commercialized into a multi-billion dollar industry.

Charge your crystals. You can't escape it. It's everywhere. Labuboos. Yeah, what's up with the Labuboos? That's part of my point, right? Like, it just because there has been an increase in traditional religion doesn't mean that

it's actually going to be the thing that's fixing our population going off the cliff. You know what I mean? I mean, like restoring the West to the pre-modern state of things is going to take more than generation. But I'm much more optimistic about the children that Zoomers will raise, actually, than I am of the generation that Boomers and Gen X raise, no offense, because I mean, I love Gen Xers, but it's just true is the fact that Zoomers have effectively figured all this out in their own is a very strong indicator for what the next generation that Zoomers are going to birth

are going to institutions like the church and marriage just have a way of reasserting themselves well that way is because if everyone in the one side is saying oh i'm going to abort all my children and i'm not going to have any kids and i'm not going to wait forward and i can't bring kids in the world then the people that are having children are going to inherit the earth no matter what you do it's going to end up that way and the children that we have as right wingers will be much more well-rounded they'll be they just they're just going to want it more than the kids that whatever kids the left wing has managed not to be selecting their you know gender or if they identify as a cat, you know, in these schools, they have the litter boxes

for the children who identify cats. And there's traits like neuroticism that are just like passed along. So it's like the left is like giving them like a basket case. They're all going to have like, you know, all these different, you know, problems. They'll be collecting laboos. And the right wingers are just going to be like, like, yeah, it's fantastic. Making money, doing, you know, real things. Yeah.

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I mean, I think it's clear that I'm not Tim. You know, Tim's been doing this a long time. He's much better at driving the ship than I am. So I think it's pretty clear that Tim is not me and I'm not Tim. When Tim comes back, I'll be right over there, you know. Let's see. Jake says false accusations should hold the same punishment as what you were accusing someone of. I'm not sure the context in this, but I don't have a problem with that.

That was when we were talking about Schiff and, you know, should Schiff face the death penalty for accusing Trump of treason, which the penalty is death. So one would say in a civilized society, the answer would be yes. Well, I mean, I think that he should face whatever the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, whatever the extent of the law will allow. So whatever the most... I'll take... Homorabi's code. Okay, there we go.

T-Bomb 85 says, stop giving CDLs to people from countries where they drive like a game of chicken. They don't think twice to run you off the road out here in the southwest. I mean, look, that's kind of the point that Mary was making, right? Like, if you have people

that disregard the rules of your country, they're certainly not going to take an account the rules of the road. And I think that it is a good thing to prevent those kind of people from coming here. If they are here, round them up and send them back home to someplace that is more accommodating of their lifestyle and culture. Let's see. Shada Jamo says, I knew a trucker guy, say an Indian guy got out of his truck and just took a crap right there in front of his truck. It's culturally appropriate.

That could have been Bourbon Street, though. Who knows? It could have been multiple places. Let's see. Raymond G. Stanley says, I worked in the industrial world for 15 or so years. There are definitely white truckers. Talk to our viewers, too. That's a crazy statement. I'm not sure which one is crazy. But, you know, I mean. We are having their jobs replaced.

Yeah. I mean, that's, that is true. But I still don't think that, I still think that in the, in the long run, like most jobs are going to be replaced with automation and with robots. But I know that that's unpopular around here. But I think that that's the, the, the few. that we've already, uh, that is already basically here. Technology is, I'm not sure about a technocracy. I'm not sure that it's a technocracy, but I do think that, that the, the automation is not going to be just something that's, that's delegated to factories in the future. I think that it's going to be, you know, it's going to be ubiquitous. I think that Musk is probably right. There will be in 10 years, there'll be hundreds of thousands of humanoid robots walking around among us. And I think

that most people are going to be pretty okay with it fairly quickly. There will be people that will not. I'm sure that I'm sure that I'm going to catch a lot of hell from the chat just for saying that. But that's my sense. I want to trip them. You're more than welcome to trip them. The guy who's going to sell them to us is saying we're going to have a ball.

I mean, you know. Well, I mean, look, he's going to sell it. He wants that to be the case. Again, again, I mean, you can be skeptical if you want. But I do think that, what, go ahead? Oh, no. Did you ever see Peter Thiele? Do you think humanity will persist?

Very simple question. Yeah, of course. I want the human race to persist. He goes, I don't know about that. What? What, buddy? What are you saying? That's a very scary, you know, called Mask Off moment.

I want the human race to persist. What do you want that? I had just gotten back from like Costco, though. We all have that feeling after you're like, I don't know. It's like Black Friday. He was at a Walmart and he's like, oh, man. I'm over it. You know, there could be some context missing, right?

Maybe he got back, yeah. Maybe he went to, like, Home Depot. Yeah, Peter Thiel goes to Home Depot. Yeah. It would be, you know. Lots of homosexual men go to Home Depot. They go to Lowe's, actually. The Light and Loafers, they're more Lowe's people.

John Burt. The Lose person is a slur, too. John Burt is a member for 60 months. We appreciate the heck out of you. He says, five years. A big shout-out to all the awesome people I've been lucky enough to know. Thank you to the Timcast team, and especially Tim. Learn so much.

That is great to hear. Thank you for being a member and sticking with us. Cheers, man. We appreciate the hell out of you guys. Let's see. The Deuteriongannist, the Deuteronganist said, my dad was a trucker and I got my CDL. The issue was trucking used to be a trade that people were appreciated for. I'm sorry, used to be a trade that people apprenticed for.

The bar has been lowered by easy schooling, basically DEI to open the trade to everyone. I mean, look, that's the way that kind of it goes. But really, I understand that, you know, you know, trucking at some point was similar to a trade, but it is one of the, trucking is something that most people can do, most Americans, most people can drive, especially, particularly if you can speak the language of the country that you're in, you can learn the rules of the road and most people can at least. So the idea that it's, that it's specialized, I mean, part of the reason why they're stuffing, you know, people that are, you know, newly arrived foreigners and

illegal immigrants into these jobs is because it is something that they can generally do if they're, you know, can read English. I think the failure point is that we're allowing people that aren't familiar with the country and can't read the language and can't speak the language. We're allowing them to drive and that's where the breaking point is. Never driven an 18-wheeler, but I imagine

it's a little more difficult than driving a, you know, than driving like a truck right? So there is a, it's even scarier to think that you know, obviously any, you know, people can learn these things, but the fact that like they got to learn it and they can't speak English and they're very low IQ people smaller brains

I think the blind spot for an 18 wheeler is like 180 feet or something that you can't... I think it might be higher. I don't know about 180 feet but I mean look 100 plus it is it is it's definitely harder than driving probably wrong on that it's definitely harder than driving

like you know you're a Toyota but I mean your average person that gets an RV those are those can be really big things they're the size of buses you know size of of a like 45 foot they're they'll call it X-L-2s is what they use in the music industry nowadays, or X-Ls, 45-foot-long.

And, you know, they are more difficult to drive than a regular vehicle, but it's not something that's super complex, you know? And it could be up to 200 feet, the blind spot for an 18-wheeler. Yeah. So. Crazy. All right. Let's see.

Dad Squatch, it looks like. Phil, your argument for having automated trucks safer than having illegal immigrants on the road is exactly what the liberal tech bros. want white American trucker i don't i don't know what your point is that it like that is what they want but it is also like there is going to come a time when vehicle will be driven more safely by robots than by humans that will happen and i mean i'm sorry to be you know you can be mad at me about it but it's just it's true so it's perfectly fine if you want to be angry with me No, it's fine.

Shane H. Wilder says, with deportations, some leftists are calling to bring back the Bracer O program that ended in 1964 because it made workers essentially slave laborers and required them to be sprayed with DDT before working. Well, that sounds terrible. I don't know anything about this. But yeah. Thanks, Shane. Evan for us says, if y'all want to see some shocking data on the dating marriage homeowners realm,

Look up the statistics on the number of Gen Z that are married and or have children. We are in deep S if we don't fix it. I'm not sure that there is a fix, a coming. Gen Z has to have four kids each for replacement. Like, boomers and Gen X were at the 2.1. There were so few millennials and even fewer still Gen Z. They have to have four. So I don't know if that fix is coming or not.

a lot of people that's another thing that people like there's a lot of people that are like oh you know the idea of so much automation that's terrible that's terrible that's terrible it might be necessary like just to have a society that functions because you've got fewer people that filled the jobs that are necessary to keep society working and you're going to need somehow to get the garbage taken out you're going to need some somehow to get things built you're going to need somehow to get a lot of things done that people do but there's just not enough Gen Z to do it. Yeah. Yeah, we'll go like about two weeks ago on the Culture War channel, my interview with Nate Fisher. That was, that's a really good case, the right wing case for, for automation. It's just very pragmatic, especially dealing with population decline. And he does a good job explaining how AI could actually be a good solution for increasing the birth rate just because women particularly work, these like pointless email jobs oftentimes.

And if you can automate those out, increase mail wage. just through increasing their productivity, then we could actually see the total fertility rate increase as women are freed up to raise children. And you might see a lot of the depression, a considerable amount of the depression that you see in women go away. Because honestly, I think that most women have been fooled into thinking that they want to be boss bitches and be career women,

and they actually don't. And if they had kids, they would be like, holy cow this is the best and you hear that a lot women that go to work they start a career they work for a little while then they get married and they have a kid and they take time off and they're like I don't want to leave my kid I love my kid I love hanging out with my kid why do I want to go back to work and some of them don't have the opportunity they don't have the ability to stay home but a lot of women if you say hey would you rather stay home or would you rather go back to work and they're like I'm staying home with my kid they rule you know

this is the best thing ever so it'll fix the problem with the show friends you know great show if you're a fan I get it but it got this whole entire generation of like I have to be a girl boss I have to and like we need that opposite push you know we need some viral you know movement because it's just insanity what it's become it's friends cat 318 oh oh sorry cat 318 says Kathy hokel said at a press conference that what happened to president trump wouldn't happen to any other business after president trump lost that case tish james just needs to needs to go after real criminals well yes Yeah, but they say that, but the precedent's already been set, right? They say that it won't happen until, you know, the next president that gets in that's on the right. Because remember, they were saying that Donald Trump is the worst thing that could ever happen. He's worse than Hitler, literally verbatim, he's worse than Hitler. And then as soon as like you start talking about J.D. Vance, you see, you see think pieces coming out.

Donald Trump was bad, but whoa, boy, J.D. Vance is worse. there were people that were starting to make that very argument about Ron DeSantis when DeSantis was running against Donald Trump before DeSantis dropped out before everyone saw the the lifts in his boots and they were like look you know desantis might actually be worse than Trump because he's competent and Donald Trump was a buffoon and blah blah blah they were starting to make that argument that is the argument that the left will make forever because they don't have any principle at all they only use words as a means to strike fear in people

they're totally postmodern now they don't have to have their words don't have to have any attachment to reality that's why they call Donald Trump Hitler even though he's nothing like Hitler like his policies are not like any kind of socialism or national socialism nothing like that at all

but they draw any connection to Hitler they can because they don't have the ability to make reasoned arguments they only have the ability to say that he is the worst thing ever because they believe that words don't have meaning, words are just access to power. It's all postmodern garbage.

But anyhow, let's see. What do we got here? Mosef Stalin. Mosef Stalin 69 says, Mary absolutely cracks me up. You got a fan, Mary. Thanks. He's a lot of fans.

Am I funny in a laughing at or laughing with? Laughing with. I don't know. Laughing with kind of way. So, what do we got? St. Miles says, Mary, the Oracle of Timcast, IRL has spoken. Does me?

No, the other Mary. Yes, you. Oh, I'm flattered. They call you the Oracle, so you get a lot of love. Let's see. Dave Flores says, Kellen, imagine a bunch of S-Bag New Yorkers talking S about Maryland, completely homo.

Way to go, Mike. Sorry, sorry about it. Listen, New York is quickly becoming more of a failed society, and obviously mandomin and all that but we will always be better than Maryland in every single way in every single form I'm sorry that was Kellan that said that? You're from Maryland

from New York it's not even comparable. Why do you hate Maryland? I don't know I made one comment. I got to go with it now. I made one comment about Maryland that I'm the type that digs my heels in so fuck Maryland. Yeah we need an enemy yeah we're done we need to unite around something we need a fall guy

are you? Yeah I didn't like that essay Federale says I feel like Mary consistently is proven right that nothing ever happens and the argument that she's gullible is something seems to be happening then it goes away and nothing actually happens that needs to so she's right no one no one's ever said that she's gullible I don't think anyone's ever said that about Mary around here I think he's saying the people who think that something is happening are gullible they're like look look something's happening and then it doesn't happen hmm anything well okay so uh frantically searching look evidence of something happening.

There was a poll that search put up. Does anything ever happen? And there was 57% said, yeah, all the time. I may have worded that. I'm sure I worded that a little bit poorly. I could have worded that a lot better, but it's pretty split. It's like 50% the whole show. Oh, I'm going to, okay.

So I'm going to take a little jab at this one. Red Pilled again says, I cannot wait for AI to replace podcast talking head just like truck drivers. I know that that's a shot at me. But listen. That's kind of a funny one. Yeah, you think it's funny, but you're not winning anything because my job was replaced by Spotify 15 years ago, okay? I sell records. People stop buying records 15 years ago.

So if you think that you're funny, like, I'm already neck deep in it, man. He's been replaced once, already neck deep in it. Yeah. He will figure out how to do it again. Don't think that like, oh, you're so mean for talking about this. F you. Like, this has already happened to me. If it were the 90s, never mind.

anyways people used to buy records they stop buying records now they buy Spotify for 10 bucks a month and get all the music in the world for free so don't give me that oh it's so bad that it's happening to me now yeah i can't i cannot screw up an ad read like i can't right it's too good it's too perfect uh let's see maverick cuba says why should american businesses landowners be punished for not proper vetting do you see how the property business seizures will be used to punish Americans. We're not legally vetting other Americans for work slash rent under the table. Look, we're heading for for citizenship. Yeah, look at them. Oh, you're not a, oh, are you a citizen? Are you, uh, Indian? Is it that hard to figure out. I mean, I get what you're saying. I get what

you're saying. If you're coming from the position of look, the government can't be trusted, I get it and I agree, right? But the idea that the government can't be trusted so we can never do anything only lets the left rule the country. That's all there is to it. It allows the left to do whatever they want. And then the Republicans, and that's part of the problem with Republicans now. It's not, we can't do this. That's unprincipled. This isn't the role of the federal government, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

You have to exercise power when you have it. We've got to go a little authoritarian to fix these problems. I'm sorry. I mean, I agree. But the argument that the government doesn't have that authority, they do it all the time. They use civil asset forfeiture to take your cash if you're going to buy a car in cash. What's that cash for? Let's mine now and the police just take it and you have no recourse.

Like the government does this stuff all the time to benefit itself. It's time for the government to use the powers that it is taken for itself to benefit the American people. Yeah, well, it's like, oh, you don't trust the government. Oh, well, everyone that hates you does. That's kind of the problem. Yeah, they do and they're going to use it to do terrible things to you and the things that you love. Real. So I get it.

I understand your argument, but I abandoned that argument a long time ago when I started. being a libertarian because it doesn't work in the real world. That's all there is to it. If you don't use the power of government when your party has it, if you don't have representatives that will use that power, you are just saying let the left use the power, let the left beat up on me, let the left destroy my country, let the left do all the things they want to do, and I am too principled to do it. Well, I tell you what, I'm not too principled to tell the government to use its power on my behalf

for my benefit. Mike drop Not a bot says When my dad's family Came to America from Mexico My grandpa told me Not to teach his children To speak Spanish

Because we're all American now He was a Marachi And he was so proud To earn his family citizenship And that's great That is exactly how Immigrants to America should behave They should stop

Speaking the language From their old country They should become American Throw away the Selena Gomez Oreos Eat normal Oreos I remember I remember a moment when I, you know, I was in middle school, whatever, when I started Italian, like, foreign language. And I don't, I'm like, I don't know anything. I go to my parents. I'm like, why didn't you teach me Italian? They're like, I don't know Italian. We came to this country. My parents said, you learn English and that's it because we're here now. And it's like, that is so gone. Yeah, I don't see why people don't, you know, make the connection of if you're, you know, in the country, you should be speaking English. But we're going to wrap it up from here. So, uh,

actually do you want to go ahead and shout anything out it's been great to be on the show tonight appreciate it a very based conversation long live america hopefully and you guys can follow me on x at mike crispy um follow me on x everything is there mary oh i was waiting for you want to show you out producer frankie on x no there we're a brand new ex account there we go just just started it he's brand no okay all right you guys can go subscribe to pop culture crisis we go live Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. Eastern. You can send me validation on Instagram at Mary Archived. You can send me hate on X.

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No, tomorrow. There's no morning show tomorrow. We're doing the Culture War tomorrow. You're doing the Culture War tomorrow. You're not going to be here. I'll be behind the desk You're going to be on camera, you know it Maybe, I don't know what you

Come on, everyone loves you Tomorrow's gonna be a monster culture war Please, please watch it, you're gonna love it Yeah, I am Phil that remains on Twix The band is all that remains You can check us out on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Ds are and YouTube I will be here tomorrow morning

For the Culture War at 11, right? And Tate will be on Don't let him steer you wrong He's gonna be on We're gonna have a great conversation It will actually be about AI If I understand correctly So join us tomorrow

And then we'll be here tomorrow night for IRL. There will be no after show. But tonight, in just a few minutes, we're going to start the Rumble after show. So go to Rumble, become a member so you can watch the after show. And we'll see you guys soon. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.