Timcast IRL - Trump Demands IRAN SURRENDER NOW, Mobilizes For WAR, Jets Deployed w/ Mike Harlow, Jack Posobiec

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Elaad, are joined by Mike Harlow & Jack Posobiec to discuss Trump demanding Iran's unconditional surrender, US fighter jets being deployed to the middle east amid Iran Israel war, Tim Poo...l & Jack Posobiec debating Timcast journalist Elaad Eliahu on the Iran war, and a NYC Mayoral candidate arrested after interfering with ICE.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guests: Mike Harlow @NotMikeHarlow (X) Jack Posobiec @JackPosobiec (X)

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Starting point is 00:00:56 hose message and data rates may apply no purchase required terms apply available at pocket hose.com Donald Trump has demanded Iran's unconditional surrender. He didn't speak tonight. The U.S. seems to be mobilizing jets now across Europe. And increasingly, the speculation is the U.S. is preparing for some kind of direct intervention. The poly market predictions are up. Boys, I hope you are prepared for U.S. involvement because it seems like that will be the case. The question is, to what degree will it be full scale invasion regime change or just air support? Maybe just logistics refueling.
Starting point is 00:01:44 We don't know for sure, but we'll break that down. Plus, we've got a bunch of other news. Kristi Noem was rushed to the hospital with an allergic reaction, which is alarming, but she appears to be OK. And then a Democrat mayor, I'm sorry, a Democrat mayoral candidate was arrested trying to stop an ICE proceeding, linking arms with the man. And he was actually seen aiding one of these guys before he ended up getting arrested. This is weird. And then that Padilla guy, I don't know if his name is actually pronounced as Padilla Senator, he cried today as he was recounting his being detained for storming into a DHS meeting. Oh boy. We're going to get to all that, my friends. Before we
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Starting point is 00:04:52 I think it's kind of hilarious that I was just on Pop Culture Crisis talking about the national nightmare that is the Sex and the City reboot, and now I'm here discussing World War III. But there's no way I'd rather. Yeah. Right on. Thanks for having me. Jack Posobiec here.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I'm here tonight. I have arrived on TimCast to officially announce my candidacy to be the next Shah of Iran. I feel like the current leadership you know, they're on their way out and it's time for Poso. It's time for Poso the Shah to take the
Starting point is 00:05:22 reins. I will decide what we do with the nuclear program, okay? I'm going to tell you that right now, but I think I'd do a good job. So what do you say, guys? Let's do it. And then on the topic, Elad is here. Good evening, everybody. Isn't it a wonderful evening? My name is Elad Eliyahu. I'm the White House correspondent here at TimCast. I grew the mustache for the occasion today. Phil, how's it going?
Starting point is 00:05:44 Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it. Here's the big breaking news. We got this from the BBC. Trump demands Iran's unconditional surrender. Oh, boy. Now, this is a live tracking page. It says Trump says we are not going to kill Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. He says we know exactly where the Ayatollah is. He is an easy target, but is safe there. But he warns our patience is wearing thin and then posts unconditional surrender. It has been five days since Israel began attacking Iran. Both sides continue to fire at each other.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Iran warns people in Tel Aviv and Haifa to evacuate, while in Tehran there are reports of more explosions. Many Iranians are trying to flee Tehran, but others warn they have nowhere to go. The U.S. says it is not involved with Israel's airstrikes. Whether it eventually joins is in the 3,000-pound question, writes Frank Gardner. Now, according to The Hill, the U.S. is positioning its military to potentially join the Israel war with Iran. We've got reports of fighter jets mobilizing. I think we might have some images. There's our refueling tankers are continuing to mobilize. It seems now it is very clear that the U.S. is getting ready to join the war. Jack, we're going to join the war? Well, I suppose it really
Starting point is 00:07:06 comes down to how you define are we joining the war. As we've seen, Israel thus far has conducted a range of strikes on the nuclear program, but also on oil infrastructure, oil facilities, missile defense, air defense, missile silos, airfields, airports, et cetera, et cetera, and military leadership. If President Trump so chooses, I think the big question has been specifically on the nuclear facilities that reside at this position that are far lower, the Fordow site, far lower than any of the Israeli bombs or missiles can be able to penetrate. So that's really one of the big questions. Although I'm told that at the National Security Council meeting this evening, a range of options were discussed.
Starting point is 00:07:57 A range of options to do you think do you think it's likely because right now it's my sense that there's still support. Basically, what the what we're seeing is support aircraft and support systems. Do you think it's likely that the U.S. joins and actually strikes? Well, at this point, that's one of the potential range of options. So one option could be pursue diplomacy for longer. I think a lot of people think that that ship has sailed at this point, given, you know, given just reading the tea leaves and seeing everything that's gone out out there. And so the U.S. military pre-positioning all these forces creates optionality for the president as commander in chief. And no decision has been made yet, as we've seen the the this idea
Starting point is 00:08:38 that he was going to give remarks hasn't come out yet. And so those options range from potentially just this limited strike against certain facilities, all the way up to a wider range of strikes, all the way up to, and Lindsey Graham's the senator, and a lot of the neocons are really calling for this full on, full scale regime change operation in Iran right now, led by the US military, working in conjunction with Israel and others. Does anyone around the table think that an actual regime change effort is something that's realistic in the future? Well, there is the probability that it does happen.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I think the probability is low right now. I think U.S. strikes are incredibly likely. It's a random ballpark number, but I'd say 65-70 percent that the U.S. does some kind of airstrike. I'd say maybe a 30 percent that we simply engage in assistance of Israel, like refueling and things like that. And then maybe single digits, full on regime change. I think it's worth mentioning that it's been MAGA doctrine since Trump has been involved in politics that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. When Trump, when President Trump first got, began getting involved in politics during the Obama era, one of the constant things that he would rail against, against President
Starting point is 00:09:55 Obama was how weak he was on the GCPOA, on the original Iran deal. And it was clear that from then, and he released recently like a press statement, and even on his Twitter, his rapid response Twitter account, going back like a decade, there are videos of him saying, I would not allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. And even today, in response to a question about how Tulsi Gabbard said, Iran isn't getting close to your nuclear weapon. He said, I don't care what she said. I think they were very close to having one. So I think that he's actually been very clear on the facts of the case here with not allowing Iran to get a nuclear weapon. And I think he's fulfilling that promise. So as far as I'm concerned, I think there's promises made, promises kept by Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I'm satisfied from our ally really doing our dirty work. I think that the Jews are doing our dirty work in the Middle East and diminishing iran's offensive capabilities against us i think it would be a good thing if our allies took care of our enemies as well as israel did our enemies like if south korea took care of the north korea issue or if japan and taiwan took care of china or if europe pulled their weight over um with the with the war against russia and uk. Is there anywhere in the world that you think that we shouldn't be at war? No, no, no, no. I agree. No, no, no, hold on.
Starting point is 00:11:10 If the statement is... If the statement is Korea should be responsible for itself and Israel should be responsible for itself and we're not involved in any of it, done, agreed. That's a good ally. An ally that is able
Starting point is 00:11:21 to diminish the capacities of our enemies and isn't burden and and isn't burdening us i think ukraine's been a burdensome ally they haven't been very successful not an ally yeah we sent them a fair amount of military assistance okay so you're saying colloquially you consider them a they're not a formal ally we're basically their sugar daddy at this point yeah is there a list i mean i was in the you the, you know, I was in the U.S. military. I was in the intel community. I don't remember getting this list
Starting point is 00:11:47 of these are the countries that are allies and these are the countries that are allies. Well, I could tell you for sure the countries that yell death to America and death to Israel
Starting point is 00:11:53 are definitely not our allies. So like Canada. Not our allies, sure. And I actually think there are many extremely subversive Canadians in our media system. I think we should get rid
Starting point is 00:12:03 of many Canadian media figures in our country. What do you mean get rid of? Deport them. I'm being dead serious right now media system. I think we should get rid of many Canadian media figures in our country. What do you mean, get rid of? Deport them. I'm being dead serious right now, actually. I think there are many subversive Canadians who are involved in our media ecosystem who don't speak for making America great again. Like who? Jordan Peterson? There's many of them.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Jordan Peterson, Stephen Crowder, Lauren Chen for a while. Didn't he grow? Okay. No, no. Misquote him. He grew out of it. He grew out of it. I think there's some Sarah girl.
Starting point is 00:12:30 There's a lot of Canadians involved. Sarah girl? Lauren Southern? Lauren Southern. She's retired. Lauren Chen. I would say Jordan Peterson is probably the biggest Canadian
Starting point is 00:12:40 that's like... Jordan and Michaela? But like they're not... I mean, is he calling for US intervention in war? I haven't seen not. I mean, is he is he is he calling for U.S. intervention in war? I haven't I haven't seen. I think we also need to differentiate between war and a strike.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I think we're mobilizing to end up hitting this this nuclear facility for dough because we have particular bunker busting bombs because this nuclear facility was built into a mountain. But we didn't we didn't go
Starting point is 00:13:04 to large scale war when we killed Qasem Soleimani in Trump's first administration. So I think we're going to see a rehashing of a similar strike on this nuclear facility in our limited involvement here. It is, in all fairness, very different striking one guy and like bombing multiple facilities and urban centers and, urban centers and governmental targets. That being said, any one of these strikes could be seen as an act of war, even killing Soleimani. So you said the difference between war and strikes, and it's like, why? One begets the other.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Sure, well, it didn't in the case of Qasem Soleimani. I think, and it's fair to say, I genuinely believe if the U.S. did launch strikes on iran no one's coming to iran's aid and it would be foolish of iran to respond against us they're not going to and i don't see any any like the brics nations russia or china wanting to get involved in this because iran's not a great ally they're they're they're politically weak and isolated there's there's some reason to be working with them but right now i think the best thing for the U.S. is just to do nothing, not be involved in this. Israel's, you know what I'm hearing?
Starting point is 00:14:11 Everyone's like, wow, Israel's doing a really great job with air departments. Like, oh great, they don't need us. Yeah. Okay, we out. Yeah, that was the interesting thing because I remember all last week, there were people saying, you know, Israel's got this.
Starting point is 00:14:22 You remember this, right? Like Israel's got this. We don't need any help. We're good to go. Don't worry about it. We're a good ally. We're pulling our weight, as a lot said. And we're good to go. Okay. All right. So we're sitting back and we're watching TV. And then all of a sudden, like within 24 hours from the initial strikes on Thursday night, going into Friday, and then BB's all over TV saying, the U.S. needs to come in the U.S. needs to come in the U.S. needs to commit to regime change ending the nuclear program means regime change like whoa wait a minute I've got whiplash you're watching this guy like you said this was just
Starting point is 00:14:56 about the nuclear program and now in without even taking a breath it's immediately also about regime was it was it was it also Lindsey Graham I think Was it also Lindsey Graham? I think. Well, Tim, technically, Lindsey Graham has not changed his position on that. He has always been for bombing Iran to get regime change. Right. The speed... Totally activated. Totally activated.
Starting point is 00:15:20 The speed at which it has gone from, you know, Israel starts actually striking Iran, and the U.S. has basically said we didn't know anything about it to now the U.S. is entertaining, or at least some people are entertaining the idea of a regime change war is incredibly fast. It's been days. There was there's no lead up, no anything. It's just the this, this, you know, this surprise push for not just US involvement, but US to take the lead and try to go in and do with no discussions, like no discussion, no discussion, no debate, please. It seems like that's just been the purpose all along. For me, my big question is why now? Because we've been told for 30 years now that Iran is close to getting a nuclear weapon. So I think I'm where I'm at, where a lot of people are at that. I just have a bunch of questions and no real answers. If I understand correctly, part of the why now is because of how badly Iran planned their their attacks against Israel when they started with, uh you know hamas on the 7th on
Starting point is 00:16:25 october 7th then going to hezbollah so really you know israel just started disassembling all of iran's ability to influence and and you know pay people to to strike it we know it's you know it's crazy what you mentioned about and and you're right about the military window that's there's no question about that but the think about what we were talking about a week ago just when i say we i mean sort of the the royal we as like the podcasters online sphere it was riots it was riots it was immigration it was illegals it was rounding people up it was these cases which were marching through and trump was winning and there was so much mass appeal for, I think I saw a poll, like a mainstream poll saying 50,
Starting point is 00:17:10 it was CBS, 55% of Americans saying they wanted to, they supported all illegals being deported, not just MS-13, it was all. And there was this massive push for full-on immigration or illegal immigration pushed out. And then suddenly it's like that's evaporated overnight and just no one's talking about it. Let's jump to this next story. We've got this from T.W.Z. We got a couple stories, actually. U.S. Air Force fighters deploy to reinforce Middle East.
Starting point is 00:17:41 The Pentagon is expanding its tactical operations, tactical options by using the tankers it just deployed to flow additional fighters into the region. From the BBC, U.S. moves 30 jets as Iran attack speculation grows. And then, of course, we have this video clip showing major airstrikes taking place across Tehran. There have been rumors circulating the U.S. is already engaged, but we've got no evidence that is the case. And I'm hoping it is not the case. But it looks like Donald Trump, whoever, is gearing up for at least airstrikes in Iran. Can I just say something about that, that, you know, there's been a lot of people and who are sort of dying to be first on X and, oh, I've reported it. I report like unless U.S. forces are responding to a direct like a direct threat, somebody's fired on them and they're firing back and they have to. I don't think that Trump is going to commit U.S. forces to a direct strike on Iran without some kind of statement first.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I just don't think he would do that. You know what I mean? That, you know, or it'd be concurrent, that sort of thing. I don't think that we would find out about that on X, if that makes sense. I hope we wouldn't. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Donald Trump likes the internet.
Starting point is 00:18:59 He likes Truth Social. He likes X. Well, yeah, if he's posting it himself, sure. Yeah. So, I mean, there's always that kind of possibility that he would, you know if he's posting it himself sure yeah so i mean it's there's always that that kind of possibility that he would you know he would make an announcement himself but i mean like for some random x account just pops up and i'm awesome bro and i know that the u.s is currently doing this and it's like guy like if you read those awesome i call them
Starting point is 00:19:20 broson accounts and if you read broson accounts like we've been at war with iran for like 10 years and there's been like all these other strikes that have gone on and also iran is like blown up a ton of stuff in the u.s and it's like this constant just street like there's a lot of misinformation in there as well as true stuff as well i can't trust the thing that i read on twitter um yeah that's what i mean i do trust things that trump puts out on truth, which if you guys have been following has been absolutely insane. He warned people to evacuate Tehran, which was absolutely bananas. So I wanted to get your take on Trump boasting we now have complete and total control over Iran's skies. Well, the royal we, I mean, I think there is a an understanding there that Iran's air defenses have been completely degraded.
Starting point is 00:20:08 And they were heavily degraded from the April and October strikes of last year. And it was in a situation where I think a lot of people are saying the S-300 systems could potentially have been brought back online. But to Tim's point, Russia has not provided them with any extra S-300 systems since that time. Russia's air defense is very capable, as we've seen in Ukraine over the past couple of years. And so the fact that they haven't backfilled those, the fact that Israel was able to, with, you know, I think a conjunction of, it still has to be shaken out, but a conjunction of these Mossad strikes, as well as probably cyber and electronic warfare, has basically taken the entire air defense
Starting point is 00:20:45 that offline. And I, I'm more familiar with, all right, I have to be careful with this, the North Korean side of things. But I do know that a lot of the, and all right, I'll just speak generally. A lot of military air defense systems typically operate on like one or two networks. So they're highly vulnerable to cyber attack if you're able to get something into that system, because they're all on one system, basically. And they don't really have a lot of fail safes in there. And particularly,
Starting point is 00:21:16 I remember being told that with with Iran and North Korea, that they were very susceptible to this type of attack. I know there were questions about how involved we are. Many people are reading into him saying that as we now have complete and total control over Iran's guys, as us being involved. Are you reading into it that way? I don't have any information either way. I think it's royal we. I think he's talking about us and our allies.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And he says when Israel does it, he's saying like all of us together. It's like the royal we. I don't put it this way. And I think the State Department, or excuse me, the Defense Department actually put out something saying that, hey, to clarify, this does not mean the U.S. is involved in direct, you know, direct, quote unquote, control of the skies. But he sort of means, to your point, you know, this is the royal we. Aside from the mobilization. He sure used it. Aside from the mobilization that we're seeing from the military, there's another component that makes me think we're going to intervene.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And that is The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. My favorite show. They attacked Steve Bannon, Marjorie Taylor Greene. They attacked you, Jack. There was one more person in there. Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk. And they took you guys completely out of context.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And it was very strange. It was very strange because there are Trump supporters who cheered on no new wars who are now on X cheering on intervention in Iran. Seems like hypocrisy. Jon Stewart could very easily come out and say, hey, look at these hypocrites. Instead, he chooses to target the staunch anti-intervention faction of the MAGA base and tries to discredit them, namely Bannon and Jack and Marjorie Green, Charlie Kirk, by claiming that Jack called for the military to be deployed against 75 million Democrats in the United States, which is an absurdity and a lie. And I had to ask myself, why would he do that when he could mock those who actually support the war? He's not going to mock those support war,
Starting point is 00:23:11 just like we saw in the early 2000s. The machine, the state and the narrative machine was all about supporting our intervention. And this time around, they want to do the same thing. So when I say this leads me to believe that there will be intervention is that there is a concerted effort, even on liberal media, to mock and discredit the strongest voices saying no war, implying there is a concerted effort to have us intervene in the region, just like we saw in the 2000s. What say you, Jack? Do you agree? Well, I mean, I do agree that he could be mocking the neocons. And there's a lot of material there. I mean, if you look at Mark Levin, he's almost like, how do you caricature a guy like that? I mean, he almost is that it would be inseparable from a parody, which is funny because I'm like, you know, Mark, you and I are both from like the same part of Pennsylvania, just outside of Philadelphia, both went to Temple.
Starting point is 00:24:06 I've never heard that accent anywhere in the area. So I'm very familiar with, you know, Cheltenham and that area from Norristown. Like, I don't I don't know where that comes from. But but that that notwithstanding, it's I think it I think it works for radio. It doesn't work for TV as much. But, you know, the antics. But when it really comes down to is very interesting to see that, hey, wait a minute. Where was the Jon Stewart who used to say, you know, and he does actually mention it in the clip. He said, well, I agree with these guys.
Starting point is 00:24:36 I agree with these guys when it comes to this. I agree with these guys when it comes to this. But, but, and then they go to play edited, spliced clips with very, like, not even very well edited. It was very amateurish jump cuts, where I'm saying something about like, Trump is deploying the National Guard and that jump cut, we should use force, jump cut, the Democrats, jump cut, you know, and it's just like it's like Frankensteined altogether as if I'm calling for force against the Democrats, which which come on. If anyone knows, I am not a Fed poster. There is no Fed posting out here. OK, folks, no Fed posting and certainly not on Timcast IRL. But point being is, why is he going after those of us who have been calling, we're just calling for diplomacy. At the end of the day, myself, Charlie Kirk, President, excuse me, Steve Bannon and Marjorie Taylor Greene have been saying to President Trump, hey, we backed the play with Witkoff.
Starting point is 00:25:35 We backed this play thus far. We have backed it thus far. That's clearly what he assigned Witkoff to do. He had a meeting with the guys on Sunday. Then the guys that he was going to be meeting with were all killed on Friday. then the guys that he was going to be meeting with were all killed on Friday. So the meeting was then called off, as it happens. And and so there's this real question of and Steve Witkoff, by the way, you know, a lot of people in the foreign policy world don't really know him that well, they say, Oh, who is this Witkoff guy? What's his deal? Well, he's actually one of the President Trump's best friends, just on a personal capacity. And a lot of people miss the fact that on, I believe it was September 15th of 2024, when Trump was at the golf course
Starting point is 00:26:11 and was almost killed by the Ukrainian foreign fighter, Ryan Routh, who was there on the, you know, the periphery of the golf course in West Palm Beach, Trump was golfing with Steve Witkoff that day. So they were both in the line of fire or potentially were about to be there on the they were on the fifth green and he was waiting on the sixth green. And so they were both potentially killed by this guy. And so they've just been through a lot together. They have a huge, very deep relationship. And so I wonder, you know, how how much Witkoff has really been brought up in these conversations. With all due respect to Steve Witkoff,
Starting point is 00:26:46 I don't think he's come to a successful negotiation yet, definitely not in this Iran deal, definitely not in the... With the people who were killed. Or in the Ukraine war, which... Have you ever negotiated with a dead person? How does it go? No, but before this, they didn't come to a nuclear deal. It's rough. It's rough.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Come on, why won't you agree? Ilhan, do you think that we should invade Iran? No. Do you think that we should intervene militaristically in any way? I think we should destroy the Fokrum. What was it? The nuclear facility that's- Fordow.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Fordow nuclear facility that is built into a mountain. Why? Because if Iran is able to get a nuclear weapon, it would drastically change the geopolitics of the Middle East. I don't believe radical... Because they're radical Islamists in Iran, whose regime was founded on anti-Americanism, frankly, and they chant death to America and death to Israel. We know that, but how would them having a nuclear weapon change it? It would lead to other countries in the region wanting to get a nuclear weapon. So, for example, Mohammed bin Salman said
Starting point is 00:27:52 that if Iran got a nuclear weapon, then they would want a nuclear weapon, too. So, multiple Islamists... So we've got to bomb them. We've got to bomb them, too, now. Well, they didn't say they would if Iran didn't, so we need to prevent and make sure Iran doesn't, especially with their threats they make against Americans and how their proxies have killed Americans. So are there any other Islamists and extremists that are making
Starting point is 00:28:13 nuclear weapons? At this point, I don't think so. So I don't think you've justified why we should bomb Iran's nuclear facility. Because they've made threats against us and our allies. And if they get a nuclear weapon, it would lead to more nuclear proliferation in the region. And it would allow Iran to... I don't follow. That makes no sense. Nuclear prol... So Saudi Arabia...
Starting point is 00:28:35 You're saying if Iran gets a nuke, all of a sudden a bunch of other countries are going to get nukes? Yes. But how does that follow? Unless we stop them. So Mohammed bin Salman, if you want to pull up the article, he has... I get that. I'm just asking, what is the connection?
Starting point is 00:28:47 Like, are you saying that they'll simply just go, well, I guess we should too? The balance of power will dramatically shift, yes. And they will all say, we need to have nuclear weapons too as a deterrence. So they would try to argue that we need to make it like an India-Pakistan situation, an Iran-Saudi Arabia situation,
Starting point is 00:29:03 where both sides have nuclear weapons. Are there any other countries with nukes we should bomb? We should prevent these rogue nations and nuclear proliferation from happening. What's a rogue nation? Rogue nations, North Korea is a rogue nation. Why? Why is North Korea a rogue nation? Because it's ruled by a mad communist dictator.
Starting point is 00:29:22 What's a rogue nation? Rogue nations are nations that don't play by any of international laws recognized laws and don't respect our laws our laws so if they defy us they're rogue yes if you defy our shipping lanes outside of the liberal economic order basically yes yeah okay i think that we are the unipower power on Earth, and I think it's within our interest to continue maintaining that. And any step back we take would be a step forward that China takes. So if you want to shoot ships in any international waters that disrupt free trade, we are going to stop you. What do you think, Jack? You agree?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Well, you left out the fact that a lot of there there already are nuclear weapons in the middle east sure so and and the u.s has who are you talking about specifically pakistan okay so aq con network developed the the nuclear weapons and pakistan has basically said to the saudis and the saudis and you mentioned muhammad salman they've also discussed that if the kingdom were under attack, that Pakistan would essentially allow their nuclear arsenal to be used by the Saudis. So this, you know, that, I mean, you mentioned nuclear escalation, and that's certainly a valid statement, but there are already nukes in the Middle East. Let me ask, do you think that Iran should be able to acquire nuclear weapons?
Starting point is 00:30:51 I think that there are many policies and many options to be able to deal with that, as opposed to just simply blowing up people that you don't like. So how should... I'd say no. That we shouldn't allow them to. Yep. Yeah, exactly. But I'm trying to pin you down because you're beating around the bush. I feel like you haven't even thought about it.
Starting point is 00:31:03 You're saying... No, what you're doing is you're presenting i'll explain why i'm doing that because you're presenting a false binary and you're trying to play this kafka-esque trap of saying like oh well if you don't support war on iran then you must support iran getting the nukes and people have been doing this to me like all week how should the united states react to i literally just gave an entire conversation about steve wickhoff and you like crapped on it and steve wickhoff wasn't able to come to any conclusive negotiations that were approved by the president. The people were killed.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Before the people were killed. Before the meeting. Before the meeting. This was the sixth round of meetings, respectfully, Jack, right? Like the president didn't think this was going anywhere. No, that's the president's prerogative. There's no question about that. So you think we should just continue to go the negotiation routes.
Starting point is 00:31:44 But again, if they don't bear fruit as they haven't, how should the United States respond to their nuclear ambitions? You say that as if it's already happened. And again, how are they going to bear fruit now when the people are dead? I guess we reached the point in the negotiations where they didn't bear fruit. Who's we? Are you a member of the administration now? No, I'm talking about us, the royal we, we right there's a lot of royal we's going around so no as an american right worried about the american agenda like i'm trying to get a concrete answer here so the negotiations don't work out how should the united states respond
Starting point is 00:32:18 to that again so you're you're you're playing this game of trying to create a false binary saying these are the only this is the only way I'm asking you what else we should do. What else? Okay, cool. Appreciate you doing that because a lot of people are doing that to me this week and with, you know, who share your views and it's very annoying. So what I've said, uh, for a long time now is the best way to do this is stop looking at it in two dimensions saying, Oh, it's, it's just Israel, the United States and Iran. There's the only three players there. World's complicated place doesn't work that way. And in fact, there's another huge player in all of this, that it feels like the neocons have just forgotten about, and that's Russia. So Witkoff, again, this is why I bring up Witkoff again and again,
Starting point is 00:32:59 he plays the key role in the negotiations between the US.S. and Iran, but also the U.S. and Russia. And Russia has offered multiple times to come in and be the guarantor of the Iranian nuclear material. So they played a similar role, by the way, in the Syrian chemical weapons under Assad, because it was 2013 when that took place, and China played a small role as well in destroying them, but after the fact. And so this idea of Russia coming in and saying, wait a minute, why wouldn't that be a good idea? Because while the U.S. has issues with Iran having a nuclear weapon, certainly, Israel, it's an existential question, and for Russia, they don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons weapons either because that's right in their backyard and they don't want
Starting point is 00:33:48 this huge escalatory ladder going on in their backyard the same way that uh the same way that i think that most people in the middle east probably wouldn't and so it's a much bigger threat to russia than it is to us and so why not have multiple negotiations, have Iran put pressure on them because they know they have to, and then use as a potential dangle for that the peace and ceasefire in Ukraine? So very respectfully, I'd agree to something like that, but I don't think that resolves any of the geopolitical issues that Iran has and solves their ambitions at all. So the issue I see is, Elad, when you say that we got to stop them from getting a nuke because other countries will get nukes, it sounds like you don't know what you're actually worried about. I'm worried about nuclear proliferation and our enemies abroad who have wished death upon
Starting point is 00:34:34 us and have the death of American service members on their end. It's a non sequitur. If they get a nuke, Saudi Arabia will start a cheesecake factory. It's like, okay, I don't understand how these things are related. Saudi Arabia could make a nuke right now. They said they wouldn't unless Iran did. Saudi Arabia currently has access to a nuclear stockpile. And Jack pointed out Pakistan already has nukes.
Starting point is 00:34:53 There's nukes in the region, and there's Islamists capable of firing them, and there's fears they actually will over Kashmir. So why isn't Saudi Arabia building them if the politics of the region dictate? I keep hearing there's a major threat if they get a nuclear weapon. Notably, this is what the meeting with Netanyahu was about, where he was like, they're going to make a nuke and come for you.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And respectfully, everybody in the room was like, yeah, that's not happening. Oh, well, you mean when you met with him? Yes. Sorry. I was thinking Trump meeting, and I was like, oh, wait, you mean your meeting? Netanyahu was trying to preach about how if Iran gets a nuke, the U.S. is next.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And everybody was basically laughing at him. No, there was a handful of people in the room that were like, he's right. And most of them were rolling their eyes being like, they can't even build an ICM to reach us. We're not worried about that. So I, I am I have I have concerns about the nuke. I think the real concern is they give fissile material to a bunch of wackaloons in the region like the Houthis, and then they start blowing up tankers and launching low-yield nuclear artillery. That's terrifying. But the idea of them having nuclear missiles, I'm like, it's the same deal with anybody else. Russia's got more nukes than anybody else. They
Starting point is 00:35:58 got the biggest ones. We've got massive ICBMs, MIRVs we call them, we can wipe out 12 cities with one ICBM. I'm not concerned about Iran having access to low-heel nukes. Even though it's never been officially acknowledged, there's also a lot of consensus that Israel more than likely has a stockpile of nuclear weapons as well. Samson option. Well, in what evidence do we have that this is such an imminent threat right now that they're all nuked up? Because everything I'm hearing is sounding very weapons of mass destruction-y. Yep. I mean, that's why we've learned nothing. Guys, Tulsi Gabbard said only a few months ago that they were not a nuclear weapon.
Starting point is 00:36:37 She testified under oath, and I trust her word a lot more than— I want to push back on that a little bit. You trust it more than Donald Trump's word? I do want to push back on this a little bit because— you trust it more than Donald Trump's word? I do want to push back on this a little bit because I think we need to be accurate. And if it sounds like I'm beating around the bush, it's because I'm trying to be accurate. We're talking about nuclear war here, right? So let's be a little serious. And Tulsi Gabbard didn't say that Iran isn't building nukes. She said, we have no intelligence that Iran has ordered, that Ayatollah
Starting point is 00:37:07 Khomeini has ordered the restart of a nuclear weapons program. She then also said that in addition to that, we agree with the public statements that Iran has been enriching uranium at a level that is not weaponized and yet seems to be higher than they would need for nuclear fuel. And so this idea that it's just like Tulsi Gabbard's opinion, she's not just giving her opinion, right? She's saying, I've looked, we don't have this intelligence. If there is intelligence, I'd like to see it.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I'll tell you why I think this is happening. But she hasn't. Support for Israel is down. Support for Israel is going down. And the younger generation is split between the right, which is don't want to be involved in your war, and the left, they hate Israel. And then you've got a faction of the right, or whatever you'd call it, that is anti-Israel. The move has to be made now, because when the boomers pass on, start dying,
Starting point is 00:38:00 the younger generation is not going to tolerate it. Right now, politically, the move can be made while it's still divided. You wait 10 years, it's going to be 60% anti-Israel. Not so much anti-Israel. It's going to be 60% we don't want to be involved at all. And Netanyahu just survived a very narrow vote for his leadership just last week. And a lot of people are pointing to his domestic base,
Starting point is 00:38:21 which goes along with some of this popularity issue that Israel has in the United States. It also is Netanyahu's own popularity domestically within Israel. He's having issues with his coalition. One of the ultra-Orthodox parties was threatening to break out this—I forget the name of it off the top of my head, but—or I don't want to say it, actually. And they were saying, we want to get—we're going to come out because we don't want to be conscripted because Israel, as we know, has compulsory military service. And so it was widespread military acceptance in the population. However, the ultra Orthodox were saying they didn't want to be in and they were threatening to blow up Netanyahu's coalition if he didn't agree to this concession.
Starting point is 00:39:01 They were able to run that out of him. And so the coalition stood, but I think he only stayed in power by like nine votes or something like that just last week on the on the eve of all of this. They're just going to end up blowing up MAGA's coalition. I mean, there's going to be no support for this because the left is going to oppose anything Trump does. And most of his supporters are principled in being against this. So who does that leave? A handful of boomers? Well, and I think that's the spirit of John McCain. I do think that's the thread that Trump understands of understanding that the MAGA coalition is just like all coalition politics, which I mentioned, BB is dealing with some as well,
Starting point is 00:39:37 that there's going to be this friction. So, you know, I don't see a lot of the MAHA crowd being down with this. I don't see a lot of which, you know, and RFK Jr. himself had spoken out quite a bit against the Ukraine war, but then his own son actually had volunteered for it. So there's, you know, there's this big split, there's this big friction point. And at the same time, though, I think that President Trump is very concerned when and, you know, as a lot lot mentioned has always said that he's very concerned with iran getting a nuclear weapon and if he truly believes there isn't any other way out diplomatically or other then that's his prerogative and that's his decision to make on what he sees
Starting point is 00:40:15 as the best way to go forward let's jump to this next story ladies and gentlemen from the pentagon pizza report so for those that are familiar, the Pentagon Pizza Report tracks the pizza restaurants that are near the Pentagon. And as of 30 minutes ago, there has been a huge surge in pizza orders, busier than usual. Now, this usually indicates that people at the Pentagon are working overtime and they're ordering lots of pizzas because something is about to happen. Now, Donald Trump was supposed to give an urgent address and then he did not. So it's hard to know exactly what's going on other than in D.C., in the security apparatus, they're gearing up for something big and ordering lots of food. However, it wouldn't surprise me if there was a strike tonight. However, Jack, they also announced Freddy's Beach Bar, the closest gay bar to the Pentagon, is having a very busy night.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I don't think I've ever seen it this high above the averages of 815. Well, we know where Lindsey Graham is. Whatever is going on, people need lots of pizza around the Pentagon, but also there's a lot of people at a gay bar. We might need to check out Comet Ping Pong, too, right? See what they're doing there. We might need to check out comet ping pong too, right? I think this could be a good thing for world peace because this is what happens every time Lindsey Graham is lonely. She gets angry. She wants to bomb a bunch of countries. So hopefully she's there enjoying pizza and gay stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Is being hawkish a gay thing? It's a Lindsey Graham thing. Yeah, she gets very upset. Well, I think allegedly. I don't. Allegedly. CNN is reporting right now that it appears the U.S. is preparing for a strike on Fordo. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Once again, it's just a speculation. We've also said that assets are being moved and arranged for a strike. They're just getting a little closer to it. Do you guys trust the plan? No. No. Never. I used to be a dumb liberal. If I've
Starting point is 00:42:07 learned one thing in my lifetime, I don't trust any of these suckers. You guys don't trust the art of the deal here? No. Wouldn't the art of the deal be finding a deal? Yes. Well, I mean, you know, we're still waiting for more news to come out about this. I have taken the president figuring out a way to
Starting point is 00:42:23 stand by his commitments that says around iran will not be allowed to have new you know you don't want a lot i i i haven't thought about it like that you're absolutely right we do need boots on the ground in iran no no i i was saying just a strike like we did with kasim sulamani we totally mogged him and talk talk into the microphone totally mocked kasim sulamani frankly again the jew the Jews in Israel did all of our dirty work by taking out most of Iran's proxies. Hamas, Hezbollah. We're really going to look back at October 7th as a turning point. Also, the Houthis, the Americans actually contributed.
Starting point is 00:42:57 We contributed there, too, with the Israelis against the Houthis. Not to mention Assad falling. So if you're taking a look at the map of the Middle East, it really is our road to Iran, our road to Persia, and making sure that they can't make any nuclear weapons. President Trump, he sent out to all the White House reporters, he sent out a long list of like 30 different references to his specific quote over the years of saying specifically, I will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I don't feel like there's a lot of people that are saying that he didn't say that. Well, it's just this catch-22 between how do we stop that? We don't want them to get the nuclear weapon, and we don't want to go to war. We make Israel do our dirty work. Right, and so this is the false binary that you keep coming back to. I'm asking you what the binary—I mean, you said, oh, have Russia negotiate. Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
Starting point is 00:43:47 What if we did not war? Well, again, I don't think it is war. I think it's a strike against nuclear facilities. I mean, it's just a bad faith tactic on your part. I'm not saying war, though. So I could easily say you're either a warmonger or you're not. Oh, so you're a warmonger. So you're a warmonger.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I'm not saying war. I'm saying a strike against nuclear facilities. So I could do that all night, but I'm not that kind of guy, so I just don't like doing that. Ooh, so you're a warmonger. So you're a warmonger. I'm not saying war. I'm saying a strength. So I could do that all night, but I'm not that kind of guy, so I just, I don't like doing that. Ooh, this is spicy. I love it.
Starting point is 00:44:09 He is a warmonger, though. People, though, you do say that all the time. No, but again, I'm not talking about war. To Mark Levin, to Lindsey Graham, to people who deserve it.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Elad, admit it. You're a Bolton bro. John Bolton. Aha! The mustache has taken over. You can come in here wearing that mustache and tell me that Raytheon doesn't get you hot. I think there was a reason.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Trump brought him on at one point for a reason. Did you guys see this? When Trump made an announcement, I can't remember what it was. It was last night. At some point, Trump made a statement, and then all of the military-industrial complex stock after hours jumped. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I wonder what it's at right now.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I bet it's going up. Wait, Tim, are you saying there's a financial incentive towards war? How dare you? Are you saying that... Heavens. That would be unethical. How dare you?
Starting point is 00:44:57 Are you saying that one of the world's largest oil producers in Iran, that this flow of oil, this massive flow of oil may have something to do with what's driving these events? Is that entirely somewhere within the possibility? You know what I like? I like Lockheed. It's a cool name. Lockheed. Lockheed. Yeah, Lockheed. There's actually
Starting point is 00:45:17 a great book. Oh, they're up 2.6%. There's actually a great book that's written all about regime change in Iran and sort of the previous regime change operations the U.S. has been involved in and it's called Dune by Frank Herbert Dune? Dune. I'm dead serious
Starting point is 00:45:34 you didn't know this? Look at this this is hilarious when the war starts Northrop Grumman spiked straight up. But Tim you know about this right? So the book Dune and the movies Dune are all about regime change in Iran. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:45:49 Yeah. No, dead serious. Oh, the movies were terrible. Yes, they were. Well, not the 80s one. The David Lynch one? Yeah, the David Lynch one was good. The newer ones, no.
Starting point is 00:45:57 The newer ones, it's just like a series of trailer scenes strung together rather than like, I'm looking at something. But no, you think about it, right? So it's the Galactic Empire needs the needs the unobtainable uh material resource that is under the sand and this on top of the sand are these plucky uh religious fanatics and the only way to get this unobtainable resource which of course powers all the vehicles in the galaxy, is by conquering this land. But then after conquering it, another house, which is also part of the Empire.
Starting point is 00:46:31 It just sounds like Ferngully. Comes in and takes them out. I'm dead serious. You know Ferngully? I know Ferngully. It sounds like Ferngully. Was there a regime in Ferngully? No, but like the fairies were in the trees, you know, and then they had to come and get the.
Starting point is 00:46:43 There were fairies. Oh, no, there was a demon in the trees. You're thinking of Avatar. It is like Avatar. It's the same thing. It's all the same. They were singing bats in Fern. Yeah, they called it unobtainium.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Unobtainium. It was so bad. It was so bad. But no, yeah, so Doom was basically... Doom was based on the last time the U.S. and the U.K. got involved in a regime change operation in Iran, and they overthrew the prime minister who had nationalized all of the oil in Iran. And they were like, we got to get rid of that guy. So they brought back the Shah. This was the second Shah, if you're following. And they basically threw him out of office, put the Shah back in. He stays there for a while. And the people of Iran really didn't like that because Masegh, I always screw up the guy's name.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Maseghadegh was this very popular nationalist, like populist nationalist kind of figure. And he was saying, we're going to get rid of the US and the U.S. and the U.K. Well, it was really more the U.K. at the beginning. BP was involved, obviously. And we're going to get that. We're going to get in there and we're going to allow the flow of oil back to the world market, back to the U.K., back to the U.S. And people of Iran got really mad about that. And so rather than vote for somebody else, they decided to turn to a pretty crazy group of people called, as we now know, the Iranian revolutionaries, and back them throwing him out of office and the entire government of Iran. So these regime change operations, and that's not even to say Iraq, Syria, Libya, Ukraine, all the rest of them, they always have unintended consequences, and the law of unintended consequences is always there. So the current government of Iran is there because of a U.S.
Starting point is 00:48:31 CIA backed regime change operation in the 1950s. And this is why they chant death to America. They hate us because we keep screwing around with them. I thought they hate us because they ain't us. Oh, they hate us for our freedom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree with Jack that it's a false binary that either you want them to have a nuclear weapon or go to war.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I think the issue is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and I'm just not seeing that. And you look on X, and there are people beating the same drum from Iraq saying the Iranians just want to be liberated. It's the same Dick Cheney line for and it will be greeted as liberators. And I think it's simple to say that the threshold for intervention is incredibly high. So just coming out and saying, you know, I've seen a report. It looks like they're doing nukes is not enough evidence, in my opinion, to justify. More importantly, you know what? I will I will resign my entire argument.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Fine. Go to war with Iran as long as Congress declares it. Tucker Tucker just had the biggest smile on his face when you said go to war with iran as long as congress declares it tucker tucker just had the biggest smile on his face when you said go to war with iran i don't know if you should be betting on that what did tucker say oh no he's got uh ted cruz on tomorrow oh wow if congress if congress votes for a declaration of war then i kind of shrug and say okay well i don't want that to happen but yeah wow if you can get congress to vote on anything, I'd be impressed. If there's one thing they would be able to agree on, it would be something like that.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I doubt it. Democrats are already coming out being like, no, we oppose this because they want points against Trump. But I feel like privately they would be for it. Maybe. Maybe when Lockheed shows up and says, I got a $500,000 check for your re-election, they say yes. Historical pattern. I was going to point though because the Democrats were all for war in Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:50:12 So would they also be for this war? Kind of a weird take for them. Like, are we for the Republican war? No. Why would Congress not schedule it right now? Like a debate on war with Iran. Look, I think, here's my prediction.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Iran's already threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz. The U.S. has said they're not going to allow that. Security forces will be deployed to the region. They're going to say our trading partners in the Persian Gulf can't be blocked off by Iran's temper tantrum. And then U.S. forces will be attacked and trying to secure the Strait of Hormuz. And then there will be a debate in the United States, a very quick one about like,
Starting point is 00:50:50 we can't allow American troops' lives to be taken. If any soldiers die, any U.S. servicemen or women die in this, Trump's going to lose it. He's going to be like, I will not be Joe Biden. We will not tolerate this. Do you think there's the possibility for a false flag right now?
Starting point is 00:51:03 Oh yeah. Yes. Come on. Like people don't understand that false flags happen every day, dozens to hundreds of times. And I don't mean at the grand scale for war to start wars. I mean, even at the smallest level there, like what was that famous story about Tucker Max? He was, he had a book coming out. So they put up a billboard, and then he intentionally graffitied his own billboard. Then he called in a radio station and said,
Starting point is 00:51:29 hey, this billboard for the Tucker Max guy, it's all spray painted up. They vandalized it, generating a bunch of media attention. People do this stuff all the time as a standard marketing tactic, as a legal tactic. So of course, the U.S. intelligence agents are going to be like, we don't care. If we want to enter the war and we want to cast this belly, we'll make it happen. They do it all the time. Well, Gulf of Tonkin is the famous one. The most famous.
Starting point is 00:51:55 And it was funny because that was a conspiracy theory up until, what, like 10 years ago? Yeah. They were claiming it was not true. And if you thought that it was, it was a conspiracy theory. And then they finally declassified it like, oh, yeah, actually we lied about what got us into the Vietnam War so absolutely but it won't matter it won't matter and the lunatics are going to pull this out of context
Starting point is 00:52:11 that's what they do it does not matter who attacks in a false flag because no one believes what they don't want to believe so even if there's strong evidence the U.S. attacked itself or a third party that wants to force the war the people who want the war in the U.S. attacked itself or a third party that wants to force the war, the people who want the war in the U.S. are going to be like, nope, you're crazy. It happened. Iran will deny it even if they did do it. So I think that's the direction we're heading. And I hope it's not the case. But if they want war and they're positioning the U.S. for war, why would they not do it? In the six day war back in the in the 60s there was a u.s navy ship that was famously also attacked and a lot of people say that that was potentially either by johnson who did by the
Starting point is 00:52:51 way the gulf of tonkin or uh potentially some other actors what may have been a potential false flag attack or an attempt even though the ship didn't sink so i mean these things with navy and this i was navy Navy officer, right? So my heart goes out to all of the sailors that are, that are on those aircraft carriers. That's 5,000 sailors per ship, right? So just, and that's just the aircraft carrier. So that's 10,000 right there, 10,000 souls per aircraft carrier. Then you've got hundreds and hundreds of more on throughout the strike
Starting point is 00:53:25 group, and then the different bases, plus we've got Air Force, etc, in the area. So the Persian Gulf is, it's actually a lot smaller than a lot of people realize, you know, we think of it as this huge thing. But you know, it's, it would be, you know, like the Great Lakes are, you know, we don't consider that to be that big of a deal, but like they're enormous, right? And so basically what I mean to say is all of this military equipment is coming very, very, very close together right now to the point where, you know, we're talking about these long range bombers and bunker busters and things. But once you get things into the Strait of Hormuz, where, and this is why it's such a key critical choke point, because,
Starting point is 00:54:03 so it's the mouth, people say Strait of Hormuz, straight-up Hormuz. What they would do is they would take a couple of merchant tankers that would probably be false flagged, right? Operating under some Antigua flag or a Mongolia flag or something like that. In the middle of the night, they just park right there in the Strait of Hormuz and just start pushing mines over the side. And then what do you do? What do you do? So that's the mouth of the Persian Gulf. And then to your point, you know, you've got, so now you've got the U S Navy in there. You've the U S Coast Guard. Uh, the UK is around typically the French have a couple of ships around. I believe the French, I think there's a French carrier there, uh, as well right now.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Yeah. There's a quiz there. And, uh, you know, I'm, I'm used to having access to, you know, in the Navy, when you're in, you have access to all like the direct lifetime feed. So you can see just everything on a given basis. And one of those things, one of those things you don't always have, but it's all very, very within range of even, you know, even the smallest. This is why the Houthis were able to be so effective at their fire across the Red Sea because of a very similar situation that that was the first time that you saw an effective naval blockade essentially conducted from land yeah for people that don't know the Strait of Hormuz is 21 miles across so it's really really really small like really narrow. So the idea...
Starting point is 00:55:45 You could almost see across. Yeah, yeah. I mean, at 20 miles, I imagine you could, right? If you're high enough up and clear enough day, but... Yeah. Unlikely, but it's almost. But so, yeah, I mean, it's incredibly vulnerable. And like the U.S. would absolutely go to war over that little piece of water.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Well, you'd isolate Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates. So they're not going to let that happen. And for the record, if anyone's blocking this trade of Hormuz, that's, I mean, that's full, fully support the U.S. Navy doing whatever it takes to get them out of there. No question. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like we already had one tanker explosion and they're saying due to the chaos in the straight and Iran's threat to shut it down it's already starting zero had some stuff up about gps malfunctioning and gps issues within
Starting point is 00:56:30 the strait so potentially leading to you know someone jamming right is the question is someone jamming in the strait of hormuz so you've got miscalculation you've got the threat of just just general threat to merchant shipping and then if that's still going on, you've then got the question of one of the things the Iranian ships will do, these IRGC ships. The reason I mentioned, so Iran has two militaries. There's the IRGC and their standing army
Starting point is 00:56:54 and standing Navy, both of which have different armaments, both of which have different tactics. It's typically seen that the IRGC operates under the Ayatollah. And so they get a little bit better funding in terms of like special forces type of stuff. That's where Quds Force Soleimani was part of the IRGC in terms of their, their external operations branch. That's why he was in Iraq when he was killed. And so
Starting point is 00:57:15 they've got these, these picket ships and fast boats. So the idea is, well, how, you know, how are you going to take out a giant aircraft carrier? Well, you surround it like the Spanish galleons of old with these small ships, and then you attack it from all sides at once. And if a carrier were passing through the Strait of Hormuz and were attacked that way, it would actually be extremely vulnerable, especially if they've got Charlie 802, they've got cruise missiles or something else that parked in the back of those things. It would be extremely vulnerable to a couple of hits below the waterline. And now you've got, got a huge problem on your hands. Uh, I think a key thing to also understand here, I think it's
Starting point is 00:57:52 some, I could have the number wrong, something like 20% of the world's oil transits, the Strait of Hormuz. Also some, give or take. Also, I think it's important to notice like who the biggest losers here would be. Obviously this would be a big loser for global trade and everybody would suffer when oil prices shoot up as a result of this however china specifically imports 40 to 50 of their oil through countries that will transit that straight of hormuz so china would be a huge loser in this situation and china would suffer a huge amount of economic distress as a result of this. So there would be worldwide reverberations as a result of this. And this, by the way, this vulnerability is exactly why China is building the BRI to the Belt and Road Initiative.
Starting point is 00:58:37 So that's exactly, they understand this and they say, okay, well, this is why we want to build our pipelines and railways system up through Pakistan, through this economic corridor. And then what's right on the other side of Pakistan from that spot in China? Well, that's where the Uyghurs live. That's Xinjiang. So that's why the Uyghurs and EITF and these various groups are such a threat to China in that sense, because it's just basic geography. So they want to control that area because it could potentially be an extremely key
Starting point is 00:59:06 resource china doesn't have oil china doesn't have the resources that iran does iran china obviously is iran's number one partner ninety percent of iran's oil is sold to china and so they would love to be able to have to have it come up for pipeline now you're not paying for your because to have fuel shipped to you you have to pay for the fuel cost of the fuel coming on the super tankers, right? It's a little bit ironic. So if China were able to build pipelines and a railway system, it would drastically reduce that price of the Iranian oil to begin with coming out. That's why Xinjiang is so important to their imperial gains and pushing out really just across all of Asia and Eurasia.
Starting point is 00:59:42 That's why they want that so much. And that's why to them, the Uyghurs, it's just a cost of doing business. Let's jump to some domestic news time, my friends. Domestic news, what's that? From the AP, NYC mayoral candidate is arrested at immigration court after linking arms with man being detained.
Starting point is 00:59:59 What a stunt. These theater kids. Here you go, check this out. You don't have the authority to arrest U.S. citizens. You don't have the authority to arrest U.S. citizens. I'm pretty sure they do. The way you know that this is a photo op is because all of the reporters that are surrounding these guys in the background taking photos, all of those people were tipped off by this guy's campaign. Brad Lander.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Yep. He's running third in the New York City mayoral race, and that's why he's doing this stunt. He has no chance of actually winning. Moreover, this is going to be the new Democratic photo op opportunity thing. Raz Baraka of New Jersey got arrested outside of a detention center. This is the new way to virtue signal. Obstructing ICE agents from doing their jobs outside of a detention center. This is the new way to virtue signal. Obstructing ICE agents from doing their jobs outside of different immigration courts
Starting point is 01:00:49 is what these guys are doing. So this is in New York or in New Jersey? This is in New York. This is in New York, okay. Apparently, this guy was also seen aiding illegal immigrants to avoid, helping them to avoid ICE at the courthouse before he got arrested.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And that's what that judge was doing who got stripped and arrested. So this guy should go to jail. I'll just further explain kind of what's going on here. In New York City, within the immigration courts, ICE agents are now hanging out outside of the immigration courts, immediately outside of the doors. I voted for this. To arrest illegal aliens and detain them. Some of these ice agents are masked
Starting point is 01:01:25 up without any badges or name tags out and i guess that's been some people's beef others don't so others are are masked some some are some aren't and i guess that's been some of these guys primary complaint um i've been covering this stuff in new york for the past couple of weeks it's been adult men that they are detaining i've seen multiple women with their children be allowed to let go despite definitely being illegal aliens funny tidbit too tim i actually spoke to a couple of ice agents there who do watch the show oh really yeah well i keep up the good work keep sending them back this is uh dhs uh nikki h, Secretary Haley. Excuse me. Gosh, I'm tweeting about Nikki Haley right now.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Kristi Noem. Gosh. One in the jar for that one. Yeah. So Kristi Noem. I was just tweeting that Nikki Haley is probably loving all this. Don't say her name a third time. You'll summon her.
Starting point is 01:02:20 I will. Kristi Noem. She was rushed to the hospital. Yeah, but she's all right. So she had an allergic reaction. Thank God. This story with this Democrat, I think what a lot is saying is kind of terrifying. They don't have policies.
Starting point is 01:02:35 They don't have plans. They have stunts. They're a cult. Who was just saying this a moment ago? That you're arguing with the TV? Was that you, Jack? So, yeah, before we were on air, and I was paraphrasing, but there's this tweet, it's this famous Anon tweet, and J.D., I think, reposted it the other day, where he was saying liberals don't know things. They don't obsess over statistics or databases. They just sit and watch Netflix and Hollywood movies, and that's their entire conception of the world. Right. That's why they do this, and I fear where that leads to,
Starting point is 01:03:11 because they have to keep one-upping each other. Brad Lander didn't do this with any expectations of actually stopping the ICE arrests. He didn't do this with expectations. No, it's social media clout. Yes, it was all about social media cloud he wanted his photographs to be taken and be put in the new york times and be the lead story on tim remember the phrase do it for the vine oh yeah that's exactly what it is oh i i have the all right i want to give i mean he's doing it successfully he's doing it successfully because we're talking about him i do want to give attribution it was mimetic sisyphus liberals don't know things they don't read history they don't obsess over stats the few about him. I do want to give attribution. It was mimetic Sisyphus.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Liberals don't know things. They don't read history. They don't obsess over stats. The few data points they do see, they forget. Their entire world is driven by the consumption of fiction. It's so true. That's why they kept saying Trump was Voldemort. That's why they dress up like
Starting point is 01:04:02 handmaidens. They never even read The Handmaid's Tale. They don't even know what they're talking about. They wear those gowns because they saw it on TV and they don't even know what the story's about. Do you ever get the sense that they kind of want to be the handmaids, though? It's a very Fifty Shades of Grey kind of thing. See what I'm saying? They're like, oh, I would hate to be a handmaid.
Starting point is 01:04:17 That would be awful. Strapping me down. In The Handmaid's Tale, wasn't it like, you want to be a handmaid? No, I was going to say, if you guys want to get a better idea of what's going out, what's going on in these immigration courts, if you could pull up my
Starting point is 01:04:33 Twitter, the most recent video I posted is a clear Hispanic man being detained by a half dozen guys in masks grabbing him as his girlfriend is crying behind him. That's right here? Yes. Yeah, go ahead. That's right here?
Starting point is 01:04:46 Yes. This tweet? Yes. Yeah, you want to read it? Yeah, so, masked immigration and customs enforcement agents detain an illegal immigrant immediately outside of the doors
Starting point is 01:04:55 of immigration court in NYC. The illegal alien resists but is overpowered by agents. His girlfriend watches on crying and bangs on the door he's let into. This is, I like to call um it's cathartic sorry man and if you pause right there the guy on the left watches Tim Castaero this guy right here as I understand that guy this guy in the black it's not Doxan though
Starting point is 01:05:17 even though he's wearing a mask let's just yo what up he told you he was like I seen you on the show I don't want to use too many words, but he's familiar with our work. Did he say, get off the show, I can't stand you? Or did he say, you know, you're all right? He said, you know, I appreciate your support, and I'm also a big supporter of Israel. He said, war in Iran, let's go. I know ISIS already seen very unfavorably by some. Look at this, look at this.
Starting point is 01:05:44 They're allowing her to do this, by the way. This is an illegal immigrant as well that they're choosing not to detain and deport. Yeah, I saw this clip where this woman's like, if you're okay with families being ripped apart, and it's like, oh, oh my God, you're right. The next time a guy robs a liquor store, put his kids in jail.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I am. But actions have consequences. And if you want to know why they're wearing masks, if you go to the tweet below this, Oh my God, you're right. The next time a guy robs a liquor store, put his kids in jail. I am. Actions have consequences. If you want to know why they're wearing masks, if you go to the tweet below this, you'll actually see one of the activists who is a lawyer and an observer. They're taking photographs of people's faces. And I've spoken to some of the agents who said there is concerned about being doxed and having their friends, their families threatened. Some choose not to mask up, though. So there isn't consensus. I am not going to burn the Constitution because some foreign woman is crying and banging on
Starting point is 01:06:32 a door. I actually, so this is what I can't stand about liberals. I don't go as far as Carl Benjamin. Carl Benjamin says that people should be made to feel pain for the crimes they commit. My attitude is much more about the logical system of rehabilitation, making a functioning system. Carl has a moralistic view that is, no, when you hurt someone, you are to be made to feel pain. He believes that the purpose of prison should not just be rehabilitative, but punitive. And so I agree a little bit, a little bit. I am not going to empathize or sympathize with this
Starting point is 01:07:11 woman who's crying because she broke our laws, spat in our faces. Dude, if a guy came to my house and broke through my door, broke the back door open, came in and was sitting in my kitchen, and then I threw him out and his girlfriend started crying, I'm not going to go, oh, I feel so bad. I'm going to be like, you too. Yeah. Goodbye. That's the root of the word penitentiary.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Yes. The place that makes you penitent. Penance. Oh, I thought it was like, don't drop the soap. Jesus. Yeah, never mind. Mike, why do you just keep... Penetration rate.
Starting point is 01:07:39 You said it. Well, you see, the purpose of this video is that liberals are going to go, but she's crying. And I'm going to go, but she's crying. And I'm going to go, oh yeah, she is. When Mike said his favorite movie was American History X, I thought he was talking about the race relations. It was the Nazi part, that's all. She's crying, so we have
Starting point is 01:07:58 to throw the Constitution away. Here's a good man on the street bit. People go on the man on the street and they ask him a question and catch him like, did you know that Trump said this? And then they're like, Obama quote. And they're like, I hate it. Obama, I got you. What you do is you get a video of like a serial rapist crying.
Starting point is 01:08:14 And then you say, this is a man whose children were just deported by Donald Trump. Do you think that is OK? This man is crying. Like, actually, that's a serial rapist. You're empathizing. Oh, I love that idea. And it's like, you can't just look at a crying person and be like oh no but they're crying but that's all they have is emotional manipulation maybe if my heart grew three sizes one day which
Starting point is 01:08:33 likely won't i would feel a modicum of sorrow for her but you i i just i i just i gotta apologize i disagree i mean the idea is that we should tolerate criminals breaking into our country where we have drug dealers cartels human trafficking i uh good sir say my heart is three times too big and because of this i say deport them all no i'm with you encouraging this results in children dying in the rio grande human uh young girls being raped as they as they trek across by force by their parents as the coyotes abuse them. Shut it all down.
Starting point is 01:09:08 By the way, no, I agree with you. You could say how sad a woman is crying, but the person she should be crying towards is herself and her own actions. And nobody's hurting her boyfriend here. He's being sent home. Yeah, I know. It's like she can go with him or not. Like my country sucks so badly.
Starting point is 01:09:23 I'm sobbing at the thought of being sent back there while they're waving the country's flag. It's that meme where the guy's like, viva Mexico, long live Mexico, make California Mexico again. Then the cop grabs him and he goes, no, don't send me to Mexico. Oh, no. Let me explain to you guys my one big beef with this. I really have, it's the one big
Starting point is 01:09:40 issue that I have here is that I spent what was it like, from nine to five outside of these immigration courts, and they may be arrested seven, eight, nine, or ten people all day with almost a dozen agents that are only front-facing, so I'm sure there's more on the back end. I guess my bigger point here is that it's not efficient. If we want mass deportations, this is not the way to get those numbers up. Just as out of a manpower and the process, I was hanging out with these guys in hallways for hours, not doing anything. And they are not going to get to the mass deportation numbers this way. There needs to be other initiatives that are going on, even if they have multiple teams of people doing this.
Starting point is 01:10:17 If you're only arresting a dozen people a day and supporting a dozen people a day. It's got to be the the the self deportation. That's got to be the the the self-deportation that's got to be the majority of people that leave and we have to make it as uncomfortable for illegal immigrants to be here as we possibly can take away any state benefits anything at all that comes from the government take it all away you can't come here and get health insurance you can't come here and get schooling you can't come here and get anything. You can't come here and get anything if you're not a citizen.
Starting point is 01:10:46 And then make it difficult on the people that would hire them. Make it so that, like, the whole... And rent. Pardon me? And rent. Yeah, renting, absolutely. The whole Donald Trump, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:57 talking about, oh, we're going to allow farm workers and people that work in restaurants, and then walking it back, and then doubling down on it. That's a terrible, terrible thing for him to do. Have you guys... Sorry. Well, he should just be flat out with it.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Anyone that hires an illegal is facing fine or losing their property. Have you guys watched Andor? Not yet. How come nobody's watching? I guess... Only the... Was that the one where they had the...
Starting point is 01:11:20 Where he was basically a sexual assault scene? Yeah, I heard it got very woke in the second season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're on a farm planet. Yep. I saw this. Spoilers! There's a farm planet,
Starting point is 01:11:31 and the rebels that are working with Cassian Andor, they're hiding out on this planet, and the Empire has come to do audits to look for undocumented workers. Really? Yes. That's hilarious. And the Imperial colonel or lieutenant whatever sees the main
Starting point is 01:11:47 character's wife and he's not there and he's like so uh you work around here and she's like yeah and then he's like hey i'm gonna go get food later maybe you'd like to join me and she goes my husband wouldn't like that he goes i don't see him she's like he'll be back soon so then later he's like okay and he walks away later they're like hey the auditors are coming to this facility and you guys don't have are undocumented you've got to flee so they get forged documents and then go to some other facility where eventually the empire pulls up and they see one of the guys lurking and they're like they're they're they're escaping or whatever the imperials like the command officer, goes to them and he goes, I know you're undocumented.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Oh, it's so hard. The farmers need the undocumented workers because they want the grains on time. This is all in the episode? And he goes, but we're not supposed to let you stay. Perhaps, you know, it's so stressful. So like George Soros wrote the, or Alex Soros wrote the script. Then the woman says something like, that must be very hard on you.
Starting point is 01:12:46 And he goes, it is. Maybe there's some way you can help me relax. And then she goes, no, no. And he goes, come here. And then she goes, I said no. And then she hits him. And then he grabs a knife. And then she pulls a blaster.
Starting point is 01:12:58 And she shoots him. I've got to watch this. I do remember there is one line. I'm an accomplished tape watcher. Someone sent me this clip. Or I remember there is one line, because I got this. I'm an accomplished tape watcher. Someone sent me this clip, or I guess it was going viral, whatever. And he says to her, he goes, we know you're undocumented.
Starting point is 01:13:13 We've been counting visas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like the worst writing possible. We know you're undocumented. Like, as if that's an actual word. No, no, no, I love it. I love it, actually. You know, some people might look at that one scene and go, it's propaganda. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. I love it. I love it, actually. You know, some people might look at that one scene and go, it's propaganda.
Starting point is 01:13:27 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You need to understand this in the full context. The full context is Cassie and Andor murdered a couple of corporate security guards and that has been on the run ever since. So these are quite literal criminal aliens who have murdered tons of cops and soldiers. I kid you not. Cassie and Andor stole a component from an imperial vessel that can track their logistics. Literal espionage and spying and stealing government materials. And then tried to sell in the black market.
Starting point is 01:13:54 When the empire came to stop this dangerous criminal, they killed a bunch of them. So when he comes and he says, you're undocumented. Sure, they ham it up with him then trying to rape her. That's ridiculous. But the point is, the full context is, this woman isn't just undocumented. She's part of a criminal cartel gang that has been stealing military equipment and selling it on the black market and murdered dozens of soldiers. So it's like, hey, no good guys here, I guess. And I'll add this too but but they do i will say that in in just on that
Starting point is 01:14:26 point in that scene it's clearly written that you're supposed to side with you know one side and the other side is clearly evil they're the empire after all this is what i can't stand about star wars is that it is the most the whole the whole even the original movies is communist propaganda like it was intended as communist propaganda. It is communist propaganda. It was intended as communist propaganda. Okay, they succeeded. No, I don't think they did. The joke is always that this is around the time of the prequels.
Starting point is 01:14:57 And then, of course, I can't remember who brought this up, but it became a meme. Where I would say to my friends friends do you like the original star wars and everyone says yeah i'm like you like the idea of a young kid uh a desert planet getting radicalized by religious extremists and then taking a cargo ship and blowing up a military it's like when isis was getting big this yeah kind of like got started going around and everyone's like oh and i'm like that's what it's about and then he gets and then he gets brought he gets because of that his successful attack he gets brought to a religious education center who becomes even further radicalized and sent off to assassinate government leaders.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Indeed. Darth Vader was a disabled war veteran. He was. So was the Emperor. Yeah. Well, the Emperor didn't serve, did he? He was a disabled politician. He was disfigured in an assassination attempt.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Yeah, assassination attempt, yeah. So I actually think, obviously, so what they've done since is they've written star wars to to explain why the empire was bad because they never did in the past like in the original movies it was just the empire is bad but you don't really know why so now they're trying to write all of these things was like here's why they're bad one of those is the police because they just kill people wantonly but that's that's not really doing not really in it's just like there's the empire but that's what they're because they just kill people wantonly. But that's not really in it. It's just like, there's the Empire.
Starting point is 01:16:07 But that's what they're doing. They blow up an entire planet. Okay, sure, fair. They blow up Alderaan. Yes. But the point is, they're writing things like the Imperial Office. A lot of people would consider Alderaan a rogue planet. What they're writing now.
Starting point is 01:16:20 A rogue planet! I've never seen it. They had to be destroyed. So what they're writing now is that when you're tracking undocumented workers, the imperial, the white men, are trying to rape the brown women who are harvesting grain or working as mechanics. They're trying to make it be like when the U.S. government tries to enforce its laws, it is the evil empire.
Starting point is 01:16:39 That is the propaganda that Hollywood produces. Yep. I think what you said is very true, that they get everything they know from fiction, from TV, from media. I went to the No Kings protest the other day, which just the idea of that is insane. They didn't care too much about the idea of kings. That's a fiction as well.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Yeah, when the government was putting people out of business and locking us under house arrest. But the funny thing is, when you look at, first of all, I know everything they hate. They hate Trump. They hate Trump. They hate borders. What are they for? You see one person who's draped in a trans flag standing next to a person with an Obama
Starting point is 01:17:13 shirt holding a sign that says no deportations. So what you're saying is no kings, but there were a lot of queens. Yes, precisely. And I was Libby told us the other day that in Canada it was called the No Tyrants Protest. Oh, yeah. They can't have no kings there. So Postmillennial had someone up there. I think it was Toronto covering the protest.
Starting point is 01:17:30 But they had to call it No Tyrants because Canada literally has a king. And they support kings. Yes. Just proving it's all a bunch of hypocritical nonsense. I hate Canada. The contradiction's just here. Is Canada a rogue country? I think we should take over Canada. Almost. I think we should liberate Canada. The contradiction's just here. Is Canada a rogue country? I think we should take over Canada.
Starting point is 01:17:45 I think we should liberate Canada. If you want me to actually support war... Did you put a hard R on Canada? Canada. You are ethnic John Bolton. I am willing to liberate the Canadians, and I think they would be an issue in the future. We'll be greeted as liberators.
Starting point is 01:18:03 I don't think we should liberate them. I think we should encourage Quebec to break apart, as I understand of their politics. Did you hear how they... Build another wall, man. You guys know how they actually got the name for Canada, right? The actual story is a cover. It's a conspiracy theory.
Starting point is 01:18:17 The true story is that there was somebody up in Canada walking around in the snow, the territory that's now Canada, and he saw the letters C, N, and D written in the snow, and he looked down at it and he said, C-A, N-A, D-A. God, that's... What is the actual name?
Starting point is 01:18:38 Canada? Kanukistan. Is that what it is? I don't know. Yes, it was briefly aligned with Kekistan before the war. That's right. But then after the occupation, Kekistan was no longer able to maintain the freedom. So Canada has indigenous roots and originally comes from the Huron-Iroquois word canata, meaning village or settlement.
Starting point is 01:19:02 It's not true. 1535 explorer Jacques Cartier was told about the route to Kanata by two aboriginal youths who were referring to the village of Stetikonda. Yeah, nobody buys this. Presently city of Quebec. Nobody buys it. So. Total cover story. Go with the letters in the ground.
Starting point is 01:19:22 I think I like Jacques' version better, but that's what the internet told me when I Googled it. Yeah, the internet. Well, I mean, I saw it on Twitter, so it must be true. Actually, I saw it. It was on Googled it. Let's jump to this next story from the Daily Mail. Padilla's fake crying routine. Alex Padilla ridiculed for fake crying
Starting point is 01:19:42 after dramatic arrest at Ice Barbie Kristi Noem event. Why does Daily Mail keep calling her that? That's so weird. I was forced to the ground. As if he didn't like it. On my knees. And then flat on my chest. Lindsey Graham's nipples are tingling.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Hey, guys, it's the first time homie's ever been arrested. It's millionaires being like, oh, he touched me. And marched down a hallway. Repeatedly asking, why am I being detained?
Starting point is 01:20:20 Not once did they tell me why. And they don't have to. I pray you never have a moment like this. Oh, my God. You would have thought he was sent to Guantanamo. A lot of questions came to my mind. Yo, this guy is softer than cookie dough. First of all, where are they taking me?
Starting point is 01:20:43 Because I know I'm not just being escorted out of the building. This is my favorite part. Am I being arrested here? Yo, I don't think this guy has ever lifted a heavy object in his life. This is why theater kids are a plague. They have nothing but their community theater routine and emotional manipulation. He needs to go back to acting school. Democrats are so- Yo, there's like,
Starting point is 01:21:05 every inner city kid right now is being like, I was mercilessly beaten by my teacher, or like, there was a janitor that would crack me over the head with a stick, or gangbangers shut up my house.
Starting point is 01:21:16 And he's like, he grabbed my arm, and I said, why am I being detained? And he wouldn't tell me. And I'm like, is that the worst thing that's ever happened to you, dude?
Starting point is 01:21:23 I pray this never happens to you. What? Actually actually i hope it happens to a lot of people because otherwise they're gonna end up soft like this guy he planned it initially when he went in there to try and talk to kirstie noem he approached the uh the podium or whatever aggressively with the intent to get the secret service uh while yelling at her. Yeah, of course. To get the Secret Service to act. So that way he could get the, you know, he did it for the Instagram. He did it for the gram.
Starting point is 01:21:52 And the whole point is just so that way he can do more of this making content. It's crazy that politicians don't like try to actually do their job. They try to make content like YouTubers because that's how they get their name out there. That's how they get attention. They learn from AOC, man. This is what Carl Benjamin's point is
Starting point is 01:22:11 about democracy, though, isn't it? That, you know, that the incentives, I mean, you could argue that these are the incentives that present him with the advent of social media, the advent of virality. So the person who goes viral gets more attention, you get more attention, you get more eyeballs, you get more eyeballs, you get more money, you get more money, you make more, you make more of a splash, you're able to get more votes. And so therefore, he's just following his own political incentives in a state like California, by the way, for doing something like this.
Starting point is 01:22:45 This is also why Gavin Newsom was trying to get arrested for a while last week. This is why the guy's name was Brad Lander and then Roz Baraka. Roz Baraka. Roz Baraka did it. Now Brad Lander did it. Again, they're just following. And wasn't Roz Baraka also running for mayor? He's running for governor.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Governor. Governor. Thank you. He's currently mayor of Newark. he's currently mayor running for governor thank you and it's it's this posturing and i think you're spot on the incentive structure here is the unfortunately the fact is that we're not talking about any other senators which democrats did we talk about tonight alex padilla and brad lander it's two democrats you know getting arrested for photo ops that's who gets featured on timcast IRL. Not only Timcast IRL, obviously, but these other news networks.
Starting point is 01:23:27 So in sort of online parlance, we used to call this stunt queening. Tim Poole famously never stunt queened that I can think of off the top of my head. Have you ever stunt queened, Jeff? Oh, yeah. I did Shakespeare in the Park. What are you talking about? I wanted to hear you say it. No, I did plenty of stunt queening.
Starting point is 01:23:47 American History X. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's classified. But there is not a great shelf life for it. I'll put it that way. As someone who's dabbled in a few infamous stunt queening incidents, that you can't do it forever. You can't keep going to that well eventually, because the problem is with stunt queening, and if you create that as your
Starting point is 01:24:13 incentive structure for your business, or, you know, in this case, politics, you always have to keep one upping one another. So eventually this is going to get passe and people say, oh, another Democrat got arrested, whatever. Yeah, I saw that. And eventually someone's going to say, okay, well, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to, okay, I don't want to say that online, on air, but, you know, I've got to do something that's, I'm going to have something, I you know what I'm trying to say? They're going to keep escalating, moving up the escalatory ladder over, oh my gosh, did you see what happened now? You know, pepper sprayed or maced or whatever. Now I got thrown to, someone actually gets thrown to the ground. Like that, I saw that, like he didn't get thrown to the ground, bro. And don't act like he didn't like it because he clearly did.
Starting point is 01:24:58 And he's like smiling the whole way. He's like, this is going to go viral. It's going to be great. They want their Bernie Sanders photo op. So in 20 some odd years when they run for something, it's like, oh, look, go viral. It's going to be great. They want their Bernie Sanders photo op. So in 20 some odd years when they're up for something, it's like, oh, look, I was on the front lines fighting. When you weren't fighting for anything, you were fighting to get yourself in the newspapers.
Starting point is 01:25:12 They want their AOC sobbing in front of the family. And please, Bernie Sanders, you're literally from the ethnostate of New England, where it's the whitest part of the entire country. And they're like, well, why is crime so low up there? It's most because of our policies. It's like the whitest part of the entire country and they're like well why is crime so low up there it's most because of our policies it's like yeah okay bro something like that there's got to be some community theater somewhere where they're discovering all of these democrat politicians like the george soros playhouse or something well there were cory
Starting point is 01:25:38 booker comes from that's where these guys come from there were were stories that AOC was essentially selected through an audition process. At the Justice Democrats. Yeah, the Justice Democrats. They held open auditions in their Chakrabarti, I think was the guy's name, in the Justice Democrats. And he was really good. He was really, really-
Starting point is 01:26:03 Not good, effective. Really effective at what he did. And when that relationship was separated, that's really when AOC became rudderless, as she is now, that he was very, very effective at what he did. And she was a great deliverer of his material. And then up until the point where, you know, definitely a much more effective operator
Starting point is 01:26:24 when she had someone like that behind her. But, you know, then when she switched over to whoever Pelosi's team is, it's just, and Jeffrey's, they're just awful. It's absolutely awful. This is the best opposition they could muster up for President Trump. This is their way of fighting back. This is still a symptom of them having absolutely no policies and no idea whether or not they should go after the progressives or go after regular democrats i just keep going like just go on camera and i just keep going back they're 55 support for mass deportations something that if you went back four years three years
Starting point is 01:26:58 from uh from now and ask people that question you have nowhere near that level of support this absolutely is that, okay, whether Trump makes a strike, whether he doesn't make the strike in Iran, we're all kind of, you know, on a razor's edge about that. But while cable news isn't looking, wouldn't it be amazing if 20 million illegals just poof and disappeared all in one, you know, one fell swoop and then, oh, where did all the illegals go? And Tom Holman's like, I don't know. They were here.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Now they're gone. And we had a problem with them. And now we don't have a problem anymore. And we could just go about our lives. And it's really a time where I would say, full speed ahead, Mr. President, on this. Full speed ahead, Stephen Miller. I trust Stephen Miller on this. this it's like something goes on I don't know what's happening I read Stephen Miller's tweets I trust the play yeah I mean like you don't even have to like I
Starting point is 01:27:54 don't know that it's that it's trusting Stephen Miller as a person I just trust that he wants to actually deport people it's not like yeah like you don't have to like. This Miller guy's been rock solid on the immigration. He's been, he's been a hundred percent rock solid. He's been consistent. And, you know, he's the guy that, you know, thankfully is, is actually in charge of immigration policy in the Trump administration, or at least that's what, that's the way it seems. And it's good because that's the policy that everybody that voted for Trump voted for. If you voted for Trump because of immigration, you voted for deportations. And the popularity of deportations hasn't significantly changed since he was elected.
Starting point is 01:28:35 That's why I don't know what message they could even run on. They have no unifying message. If they run another presidential election on Orange Man bad, that will be four presidential elections in a row. There might not even be Orange Man in it. They'll still be talking about him. You know what I think? On X, all the people who respond to you, most, probably half, are just bots. And the best way to figure it out is that you just post sarcasm and they can't understand it. And I think AI bots and foreign sock puppet accounts
Starting point is 01:29:05 don't understand either sarcasm through a language filter or the bot doesn't understand sarcasm. And so I find that's a great way when dealing with these issues to see if people actually care is to be sarcastic about it. And then you can see
Starting point is 01:29:19 all the malfunctioning bots and lunatics. Democrats are operating to appease those people. They have a simple worldview where if the crowd says it, it is. So they go on social media and they look for social media validation. And if they get it, they'll continue down that path. But if they're being validated by bots and foreigners, then they have no coherent policy or anything. It's just going to be, he posts this video, it gets viral. He gets positive reinforcement from bot accounts and from foreign individuals and very few real people
Starting point is 01:29:50 and he'll keep doing it. I'm so sick of these people. Well, I mean, this is the future of politics. There's no incentive to change this. You know, this guy's... Unless it stops being effective, which I hope people are starting to see through the emotional... I mean, yes and no, right? So this guy's unless it stops being effective. Well, I mean, I hope people are starting to see through the yes and no. Right.
Starting point is 01:30:08 So this guy's running for, you know, he is a senator in California, so that can work in California. But I've I've I've always argued that Gavin Newsom doesn't scale. I don't actually see Gavin Newsom as being a successful candidate nationwide because of his policies and because a lot of these floated astroturf bases don't actually give you that broad appeal that you would need to run as a national candidate for office. I see a few contenders on the Democrat side. I'm not going to give them the benefit of me saying who I think would be most dangerous to run against, whether it be J.D. Vance or whoever else in 28. Not AOC, though, of course. Please do run AOC or please do run Gavin Newsom. I really hope they do. But when you look at, you know, when you look at this issue, look, Kamala Harris had
Starting point is 01:30:58 way more money than Trump. Hillary Clinton had more money than Trump. He's consistently performed well against candidates that were very well funded, extremely more funded than he was. And what made Trump possible to be elected was the broad-based appeal and his ability again, to put together this
Starting point is 01:31:18 coalition. By the way, everyone has been sending me this thing and I'm dying to hear it. I gotta play this clip from Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz. Check this out. How many people live around, by the way? I don't know the population. At all? No, I don't know the population. You don't know the population of the country you seek to topple?
Starting point is 01:31:35 How many people live around? 92 million. Okay. Yeah. How could you not know that? I don't sit around memorizing population tables. Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the overthrow of the government. Why is it relevant whether it's 90 million or 80 million or 100 million?
Starting point is 01:31:51 Well, because if you don't know anything about the country. I didn't say I don't know anything about. OK, what's the ethnic mix of Iran? They are Persians and predominantly Shia. OK, this is cute. You don't know anything about Iran. So, OK, I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran. You're a senator who's calling the government. You're the one who claims the
Starting point is 01:32:12 country. No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump. You're the one saying that who can't figure out what it was a good idea to kill General Soleimani. And you said it was bad. They're trying to murder Trump. Yes, I do. Because you're not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation. And if you really believe that. We're carrying out military strikes today. You said Israel was. With our help. I said we. Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them. Well, you're breaking news here because the U.S. government last night denied, the National Security Council spokesman Alex Pfeiffer denied on behalf of Trump
Starting point is 01:32:43 that we were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity. We're not bombing them. Israel's bombing them. You just said we were. We are supporting Israel. This is high stakes. You're a senator. If you're saying the United States government is at war with Iran right now, people are listening. Oh, man. I will just say that. So this isn't the full interview.
Starting point is 01:33:03 The full interview, I think, is coming out tomorrow. I got a text message right after this dropped and was told that the entire interview was like this. Really? Wow. This is about a royal we. I mean, just... By the way, I think I did a better job
Starting point is 01:33:20 of breaking down the ethnic background of Iran just like an hour ago I didn't even know that was going to come up earlier just because I took two I would when I so I did spend uh a year at Guantanamo Bay uh working that working there and not long enough obviously I'm sorry nothing not long enough and uh no yeah I should still be there right yeah uh the waterboarding didn't take obviously and Mike you would have loved it and I know I know
Starting point is 01:33:50 but yeah like that's just something that came up on a regular basis you know what Tucker needed to do he needed to go well Senator Cruz when was the last time you visited Iran because you can't report on a place that you've never visited. And then he goes, I've never been there.
Starting point is 01:34:07 And he goes, you've never been? You've never been? Never been? Never been? Never been? Dude, it's wild how it seems. Like, there's this false dichotomy in this debate. Dave Smith is like, as an American who opposes U.S. intervention, I don't like what Israel is doing.
Starting point is 01:34:28 And then Douglas Murray is like, you've never been. You've never been. How could you possibly have an opinion? It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Regular Americans are allowed to have opinions on what our military is doing. OK, now I agree with Tucker in this regard. All the same. U.S. sitting senators shouldn't call for intervention and regime change while not knowing details like 92 million and you see what ted cruz tried to do in that regard what does it matter if it's 80 90 or 100 but he said that after tucker because he didn't know if it was 30 right he didn't know if it was 20 and 92 million is a massive, massive population. Yeah, so Iraq and Afghanistan are both about 40 million.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Syria is about 25. Iran is, as best we know, 90, 92 million. So, I mean, just an order of magnitude larger than any of those countries. And yes, as I was saying earlier, so yeah, the vast bulk of the population are Persians, but then you also have a variety of ethnic groups around the periphery. they would like to link this sort of Kurdistan across Iran, Iraq, and Syria, where they have holdings now with the new government, where they're working on trying to work on a deal for some kind of connection there. And of course, Turkey and Erdogan hates the Kurds. And so he would love nothing more than a destabilization of Iran leading to a civil war, which he could then
Starting point is 01:36:04 exploit the same way he exploited the Syrian civil war, which he could then exploit the same way he exploited the Syrian civil war, like this year, like, like, like within the last couple of weeks, in a sense where he installed this, this new, totally reformed terrorist as the leader of Syria. And so, so yeah, I mean, there's just a ton. It's a complex area. It's an extremely complex area. And I really do think that anyone who says that they know what would happen, you know, if if if the U.S. took this action or that action to affect regime change is just they're just blowing smoke. I mean, we never have been able to affect this in any country in the Middle East or really any other region of the world with one of these. And the population estimates do range from 85 to 90 or so million. Close.
Starting point is 01:36:51 Yeah, the 2024 estimates are... 92 is like in the middle. Yeah, 89 is the 2024 estimate. It's also a very young population. Their birth rate is actually one of the highest. Interesting. And so people have pointed this out many times that that gives them a larger military age male population quotient relative to their population size, as opposed to, say, like Europe or some of these other areas, United States, where our population is generally aging because our birth rates are down so low.
Starting point is 01:37:19 Israel, of course, also has an extremely high population or birth rate, even though there are're uh i believe less than 10 million in israel just just under 10 million we're gonna go to your chats my friends so smash that like button share the show with everyone you know old college buddy haven't talked to him in a few years hit him up be like hey man how's it been i haven't seen you in forever are you watching tincast irl right now because you should be and apparently that works because some woman the other day told me that her sister-in-law shared the show with her. Thank you. Shut up. And you can follow me on Instagram. We're going to have that uncensored show coming up at 10 p.m. at Rumble.com slash Timcast IRL. Don't miss it. But for now, we'll grab your chats. We got My Name is Yeet, who says first. Congratulations. Shane H. Wilder says, I'm optimistic about Trump calling a lid and hope he's taking time to weigh everything.
Starting point is 01:38:06 None of us want to be involved in another pointless Middle Eastern war, regardless of what the Gray House poll says. To be fair, I have been thinking about it these past few minutes. And I got to be honest, the advertising revenue from the ratings spike from war footage, it's going to be fantastic. Think of all of the Teslas you could buy, Phil. A lot of them. A lot of Teslas. A lot of Teslas. Yeah, so, you know, the media loves war because it gives them footage of bombs, explosions,
Starting point is 01:38:34 and suffering. And as you know, this is an industry of vultures. Yeah, the Murdochs, the Murdochs love it. The Murdochs, of course, were cheering on the Iraq war when it happened back in- If it bleeds, it leads. March of 2003, and there's no question that they're cheering this on as well. All right. Alpha 2 Omega says, howdy, people.
Starting point is 01:38:51 It's with a heavy heart that I thank you for your prayers. My friend Rupert, real name Anthony Douglas Chandler, nicknames Taco and Lil Tony, passed away from cancer yesterday. Sorry to hear it, man. Sorry to hear it. Let's see. What else do we got here? Cup of Soothe says, all we have to do is keep the proxies at bay and all
Starting point is 01:39:11 other Arab nations from engaging. That's it. Keep the proxies at bay and all other Arab nations. The Iranian proxies, I believe they're talking about. Can you say it again? All we have to do is keep the proxies at bay and all other... Arab nations from engaging. Yeah, which...
Starting point is 01:39:30 Good luck. Yeah. Right. I mean... Good luck with it. Just go ask them. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:39:34 H.S. Disturbs says, how do you say that Israel's completely capable of defending itself while also saying that we've been funding Israel for too long? Seems like a contradiction to me. I support Israel because I believe it is a sacred holy land. Somehow that makes me either a neocon or a cultist. I'm neither, but I do trust Trump on this. He hates war and knows more than us.
Starting point is 01:39:54 It makes you totally base. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise. This guy and his Bolton brothers. Yeah, I mean, I've been to Israel multiple times. I certainly believe it is the holy land. And I think there's a range of opinions and a lot of people can have one on what the best way to keep it safe is.
Starting point is 01:40:10 All right. I think there's kind of Israel derangement syndrome on both sides that some people think they walk on water and can do no wrong. Other people think you turn water and water comes out of the faucet and Israel and the Jews did it. So I think, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:40:22 I'm generally more on the pro-Israel side, but I'm also pro-averting. Oh, there was one guy over there who could walk on water, but it was only one. Barry N. McGroen says, who on tonight's show ever served in the military and did they ever serve in combat, if not STFU? No. You can go F yourself. I think that... We're allowed to have opinions.
Starting point is 01:40:47 I think that goes right in the same vein as the Douglas Murray statement. I really do. Does the village people military count? How many push-ups did you do? 12, 13 maybe. That's enough for the Air Force. Okay. I think the last president who served was George Bush Sr. 12, 13, maybe? That's enough for the Air Force.
Starting point is 01:41:09 I think the last president who served was George Bush Sr. In World War II, yeah. Vice president would be J.D. Vance. Not vice president, but president. President is the commander-in-chief. Is that how that works, really? Yeah, so we haven't had a commander-in-chief who's seen fighting since George W. Bush. Yeah, so currently J.D. Vance is the closest you would say.
Starting point is 01:41:32 Yeah. Just think important context there. Is Destroyer says, I'm not against Israel, and I don't want to ask this question, but it must be asked. With the precision of intel and force used in the bombings, how did Israel miss October 7th? I think Israel missed October 7th because they had their eye on the ball in Hezbollah and Iran. And they were able to actually take out their targets in Hezbollah and Iran extremely effectively. And I think that's where they had their focus because they thought the issue in Gaza was already neutered. False flag, man.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Wasn't there? I think there's also something to say about, you know, again, nobody cares about, you know, we don't need to belabor the point of the horrible atrocities that happened on October 7th. And I don't think anybody here wants to hear Jewish sob stories any more than they already have. But I think there is something to say about how the Israeli psyche deeply was affected by October 7th, and they are still reeling from that tragedy that happened there. It is in no way comparable to 9-11, but I think there's a way to—after 9-11, the mood in the country changed permanently. And I think there was a similar effect in post-October 7th society in Israel. The mood has changed drastically and differently. And I think, you know, obviously we overlook that now, but in there, there's still a lingering feeling of that terrorist attack.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Sure. And unfortunately, just on that point, that in the U.S., we saw the neocons totally abuse that emotional situation in order to push for forever war. Bueno Malio says Padilla's name is pronounced padilla i hope he liked how the ground take tastes i i just hope you all realize i was pronouncing his name wrong intentionally to disrespect him i i didn't pronounce it wrong because to disrespect him i just pronounced it wrong is that mean something in spanish you say poyo. Two L's make a yo. We're not speaking Spanish. No, I'm a huge proponent of saying that if you're not speaking that language, and I'm sure plenty of us around here can speak different languages, that if you're speaking English,
Starting point is 01:43:33 just go ahead and say it the English way. Like, it's totally fine. Mi gallo es mi amigo. Whoa. Yeah, those people are insufferable who over-pronounce foreign words in English. Yeah, Obama used to always do that. Pakistan. Oh, God, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:49 Pakistan. Or when you go to an Italian restaurant, and they're talking like this, and then they say, Muzerelle. Muzerelle. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Speak American. Just say it in English. Like, it's fine.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Those tacos, the polo. Here's the reason. The point of language is communication. Effective communication. For effective communication, if someone doesn't understand what you're saying, that's on you because you're not effectively communicating. The point of effective
Starting point is 01:44:18 communication is that someone can always understand what you're saying. If you're a waiter, if you're a waitstaff, your goal is to sell the stuff. Now, if you're trying to put flair on something, I think that might be okay, but you don't want to go so overboard that you're alienating a customer base.
Starting point is 01:44:35 I think if you're an English speaker and you're visiting any other English-speaking nation, you should immediately adopt their accent. So if you're in Ireland, you should start talking like this to everybody you meet. That's what Lindsay Lohan did. Why are you talking like that? Because we're supposed to. I code switched to the Middle East and became Middle Eastern
Starting point is 01:44:52 for a bit. I missed this. And she tried to kidnap some like orphans there. What? Remember that? This episode of Lindsay Lohan. When she tried to, she live streamed it. She tried to kidnap a bunch of Middle Eastern orphans. I'm not making this up. No, no no i don't think you are i'm just i just totally missed this yeah i code switch like a politician if i'm talking to a white group of people or a black group of people i talk completely different code switching is different i want to hear
Starting point is 01:45:17 is different yeah but liberals code switch to incompetence. It's true. We run this article up all the time, but liberals act incompetent around black people. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, they do. Yeah. Yeah. I want to hear it as well. I don't know if it's common. It's like I just use their terminology. Like what?
Starting point is 01:45:35 Hard R? I get what you're saying. Hard R. Like unk. Guys, we're not in the third hour yet. What? It's coming. It's coming. Yeah, their terminology, an op. All right, let's grab hour yet. What? It's coming. It's coming.
Starting point is 01:45:45 Yeah, their terminology, an op. All right, let's grab some more. What do we got here? I'm a New Yorker, you know. Lurch says, why should Iran surrender? Israel attacked them. Because they have no other good military option. Israel has total air superiority over them,
Starting point is 01:46:02 and if the regime wants to continue to exist. Yeah, this is a good one. John Marafa says, Senator Padilla has been given the floor. Ah! That was a good one. Bravo. Padilla.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Bravo. I think Padilla sounds better. It sounds like Armadilla. That's right. Whichever one he doesn't like is the one I want to use. Say my name. Kamala. I'm crying again. Yeah. Kamala. Kamala. Kamala. That's what I would call her. Kamala.
Starting point is 01:46:35 Did he take Kamala's spot? Is that what happened? Yeah. So Kamala, when she became Biden's vice president, he got appointed by Newsom to finish out her term and then he got elected in his own right as well. I believe he was either up at the same time or just before Schiff was elected. Damn, really? California's sending us their best. Oh, is it thunderstorming right now?
Starting point is 01:47:00 It could be. It's been rumbling going on. But isn't it kind of amazing that California, which was represented by Dianne Feinstein Could be. It's been rumbling going on. But isn't it kind of amazing that California, which was represented by Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer for so long, is now represented by, like, two straight men? It's almost like their words mean nothing. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Well, it's like that white guy who was like, oh, no, not work. Oh, no. Those are. Oh, don't get me. Those are the types of people that have destroyed and invaded New York City. You could tell that. Right. Back me up on this. You could tell that that girl.
Starting point is 01:47:34 Did you see that video of the black girl in the car trying to get to work? And there were the white liberal protesters blocking the way. And she was trying to talk. They were like, but the children in Gaza, and the children are being deported. And she's like, what about my kids? And then Sam Hernandez was like, don't you feel like, I'm paraphrasing, but she's like,
Starting point is 01:47:54 don't you feel bad that you're blocking this mother from getting to work to feed her kids? And he goes, oh no, not work. Not work. Yeah, well, that's the heat wave or the heat map meme. That should really infuriate people. Yeah, Ordo Amoris. You can tell that that woman is a native New Yorker and those white liberals are the types that have destroyed the city. The champagne communists, the oh no, not work while they're living off their trust fund on the Upper East Side.
Starting point is 01:48:19 Or welfare. Yeah. Yeah. Eric Hoffer, the great longshoreman philosopher, wrote back in the 50s in True Believer that the reason that Karl Marx got it wrong when he said don't have that meaningful rite of passage that you go through when you're, you know, sort of like you're still living with your parents, but you're older and you can work and then you're standing on your own two feet. They never have that. And so they become susceptible to these just insane mass movements because they're really just kind of very bored. Oh, guys, by the way, I'm an anarchist now.
Starting point is 01:49:06 Base. Michael Malice kind of anarchist. He's excited. What pushed you over the edge? Having to deal with state government. That'll do it. I'm just like, after the 897,000th bull thing that pops up where you start, and everybody knows this,
Starting point is 01:49:22 so I'm only half kidding, but the law is constructed in such a way that the government can enforce whatever they want in any way, however they want, and then make you spend tens of thousands of dollars on legal fees to try and challenge it. After which, what they then do is pull a uno reverse, creating an alternative where they're – basically they're like this. You've got to pay us X amount of dollars for this registration form. And then you go, no, that's ridiculous. That doesn't apply to me. Okay, well, then we're not going to let your business operate. Okay, well, that's what?
Starting point is 01:49:51 So you call your lawyer. He says, okay, we'll challenge this. Then they come back and say, now you have a new delinquency regulation, and we're going to charge you 10 times this. And then the lawyer goes, just pay the fee. And it's just like, at this point, I think abolish all of it. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Snake oil, whatever stupid, don't care. Just start over. We got to start over. I don't think people understand how hard it is to run a business in this country. It is the stupidest effing thing imaginable. It took us like a year to do the documents for longer for the coffee shops so we could have franchises.
Starting point is 01:50:26 Now it's taking us another six months to go through the paperwork for individual proprietors it is psychotic what this country like the incentive right now is i work 16 hour days and on weekends and then i got to pay the government extra because i don't get overtime it's a salary so then i got to pay the government extra so it's like, okay, the incentive really is constructed in such a way to be communist. Just say don't do any extra work. It's not worth it. Just chill. Just go
Starting point is 01:50:54 chill. That's how this country has been set up. And it's intentional. That's the problem. Right now the path towards building and expanding this business is so psychotic that it's just not worth the effort. What is it saying? It's not worth the squeeze or whatever? Juice is not worth the squeeze. You're not getting anything out. It's like the harder I work, the less you actually get,
Starting point is 01:51:17 the less the business develops. So the best idea is just stop working. Find that apex point where you work just enough to get the most amount out of it and then stop. That's the way the United States and the state business regulations are constructed. It's nuts. And the biggest inhibitor to economic growth is always the state. It's always the state saying you need to make sure that these rules are followed and we have to come out and check to make sure that you follow them. And we're not in any hurry to do that kind of stuff. And there's all the infrastructure that you need to develop your business and stuff.
Starting point is 01:51:55 It's not just that. It's that they – so everything's illegal in business. 100% everything's illegal. You do one thing, they come on and say, oh, you can't do that, you owe us. And you say, okay, I'll do the other thing. That was illegal too. You owe us for that.
Starting point is 01:52:11 It's like, okay, what can I do? Nothing. We're going to do whatever we want. The federal government does it. The state government does it. Every state government does it. There's literally nothing you can do. The whole game is literally just grease the wheels, I guess.
Starting point is 01:52:21 It is totally busted. It's gotten worse and it's getting worse. And I don't think people realize how bad it's really getting. And I'm like, I think it's part of the plan because they're basically saying, stop working, live in the pot and eat the bugs. Yep.
Starting point is 01:52:37 You will own nothing and you will be happy. Here's my idea. So Trump said, no tax on overtime. I'm going to start paying myself an hourly wage and then my contract will have mandatory overtime. You do a morning show, you get paid your eight hours. But then you got to work another eight because of the late show. We'll pay you overtime.
Starting point is 01:52:55 And then I'm going to pay taxes on it. Yeah. There you go. Although, to be fair, I think there's a cap. I don't know what the cap is. It's official. Tim's coming out in support of the one big, beautiful bill because of their tax cutoff. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:53:08 No, I'm anarchist now. Actually, that's a huge point, though, as well, is that there was a good amount of momentum that was being built up for the border bill, and it's just gone now. It's just not even something that's being discussed anywhere, and the White House put a lot of equity into that bill. The White House put a lot of time into it. They'd been working hard on, you know, they need 50 votes in the Senate to be able to at least 50 votes in the knee of J.D. if there's a tiebreaker vote needed. So they had put all of that momentum in. And that's just like it's like the entire domestic agenda is now just over here on the shelf. So the big beautiful bill, no tax on overtime
Starting point is 01:53:47 so long as you make less than $160,000 per year. So once you get to that point, you'll actually start losing. Like it kicks in, you don't, like overtime up to that point doesn't count.
Starting point is 01:53:59 I think for most people though that would be... Still a tax deduction for me or anybody else, so why not? Yep. But the senate standalone bill does not have the uh no tax on overtime interesting can't get anything right over there yeah of course and the no tax on tips is only up to uh ten thousand dollars in what period uh for the year. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:26 That seems low. It was always going to be too good to be true. Yeah, that seems beyond low. For the average worker, they're probably not doing that much in tips. Yeah. But I was talking to the guys at the casino because the dealers are all largely tip paid. Right. And then I was talking to them about it.
Starting point is 01:54:44 And we were at the craps table and one guy was like i was like hey you don't got to pay taxes on this now do you i threw him a tip and he was like what do you mean and then the other dealer was like trump's bill if it passes we don't got to pay taxes on any of this and then he was like oh and i'm like i think y'all are some got some new trump supporters in here they don't care about politics yep just being told you get to have more money that's why i think that would vote in the Senate was like 100 to 0 when they put that up as a single bill, because it's just everybody knows that, you know, you're just done politically if we can pin you against that. Yeah, you can't vote against that.
Starting point is 01:55:16 No. At all. Michael Howard says, let me buy that board but put trucks and bearings and wheels on it. Oh, you mean the Timcast Skate Company skateboard with the Timcast Skate Company skateboard logo? Look at that. So the story with that is independent trucks, one of the most iconic brands in skateboarding, abandoned their logo, which is that, which looks like the Maltese cross, because far left activists said it was an iron cross and they were racists. That image, that logo is on skateboards, all skateboards. It's on people got tattoos of it. It's in every, all the skate parks, spray painted and stuck places.
Starting point is 01:55:52 One of the most iconic logos and they abandoned the trademark. And so as soon as they did, I announced that I was going to be taking it and using it for my company, which I am the Tim Cash skateboard company. And so we've made those boards several years ago and have featured that board be taking it and using it for my company, which I am, the Tim Cash Skateboard Company. And so we've made those boards several years ago and have featured that board on the show for years now, and they've not challenged it in any way. So I would assert as of a long time ago, I now own that logo. Also, I own a company called Slave Skateboards. There was a skateboard company called Slave,
Starting point is 01:56:25 and they abandoned the trademark because they said it was offensive. So they changed the name to Glass House, and I immediately said, I own Slave. I'm buying everything offensive. I own Slave. He owns the Slaves. Speaking of which, Slave. Are we ever going to get Aunt Jemima back?
Starting point is 01:56:40 I say we just take them. If they don't want, I would love it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to make Aunt Jemima. Skate don't want, I would love it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to make Aunt Jemima, I'm going to make, no, mix. And if they're like, we own that logo, I'll be like, you don't use it. Yeah, where is she? Yeah. I'll use it.
Starting point is 01:56:55 Send a ship for her. It's still on all the boxes. Really? Yeah, it says like formerly Aunt Jemima or something on it. But down her picture. You know what's really funny is like the brand Aunt Jemima or something on it. But not her picture. You know what's really funny is like the brand Aunt Jemima was great. It's like that you're loving Aunt making you pancakes.
Starting point is 01:57:11 Syrup, lots of syrup. But now it's the Pearl Milling Company. And it's just like, it looks generic and disgusting. And you're like, what is this? It sounds generic and disgusting. I don't want it. Yep.
Starting point is 01:57:23 Aunt Jemima. See that was, and she was smiling. I miss her. She was always happy. It was a warm, eternalistic aesthetic to her. But they didn't like that she was black. Yeah. And it was funny because it was white liberals that didn't like that a black woman was serving them pancakes.
Starting point is 01:57:37 It was also, it reminds me of when they, I guess they removed Gone with the Wind from the Oscars celebration. And that was actually the first time a black actress had won an Oscar. So it's like actual black history. And yet you've now excited. I'm telling you, the Democrats at one at some point were like, guys, this overt racism isn't working. Let's try subversive racism. And so they figured it out. They were like working let's try subversive racism and so they figured it out they were like let's get look chef boyard chef boyardee still there he's still there right mr clean he's still there yo what up the quaker oats guy he's still there on behalf of the italians you can have chef boyardee thank you all of the white mascots are fine they've removed all of the people of color mascots while claiming it's because it's racist to do so.
Starting point is 01:58:26 And it's like, okay, I guess, you know, they should have done Aunt Jemima. They should have just made like, made like Aunt Madeline and just literally made her white. And then be like,
Starting point is 01:58:33 now nobody's mad, right? Oh, I would love to see how that would have gone over. My favorite one. They'd be mad no matter what. My favorite one of those was, and I know it's cliched meme at this point,
Starting point is 01:58:43 but they said, um, on, on Land O'Lakes butter, they removed the Indian, but they kept the land. Get rid of the native and keep the land. That's what their plan was. They took Uncle Ben from us too, right?
Starting point is 01:58:57 Yeah, Uncle Ben's gone. Yeah. But all the white guys are still there, huh? Mm-hmm. You know what we should do? We should make, I'm going to take an identical Aunt Jemimaima kind of logo but make a white woman and be like this is cool right no this is what they always do this is white supremacy this is what i was saying about new england like new england they actually you know because it's predominantly uh rich white liberals
Starting point is 01:59:17 not all there's there's there's also working class new england uh i call that nascar new england there's like granola new england and nascar NASCAR New England. But in Granola New England, you notice that the way that they run their personal lives is actually very not woke. Their divorce rate is low. They're very homogenous, obviously. They don't practice DEI at all. They don't practice CRT at all. It's just they say they support those things. Hey, wait.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Aunt Jemima's back. No, she's not. I just Google searched it, and you can buy it right now. Aunt Jemima buttermilk complete. But that's not like some eBay guy who's got him in the back of his van. No, it's Walgreens. Breaking news right here. Walgreens.com.
Starting point is 01:59:59 She's back. Shop all Aunt Jemima products. We won. For real? And then, because I was just like, I'm going to Google search this. What about Uncle Ben? What about Uncle Ben? Walmart has Aunt Jemima original syrup.
Starting point is 02:00:15 Uncle Ben. If we got them both back. Yep. Walmart has Uncle Ben, and there is a black man on the box. Woo! Nice nice good for him you make that rice Ben there he is they brought him back when was this news
Starting point is 02:00:34 no one ever said anything I bet Lando Lakes didn't bring back Lando Lakes has not brought her back she was she's gone Aunt Jemima I'm at walmart.com aunt jemima let's see what's up no on walmart it says pearl milling that's gross you know that's weird on walgreens maybe she's on her way back she's like on the
Starting point is 02:01:01 ship here what if it's just like five-year-old a box of Aunt Jemima they still have? It probably is. Okay, yeah. I went to, because we went to, what store was it? It was like Wegmans? Oh, yeah. Wegmans, yeah. That was cool. Yeah, and they had a big, huge thing of pearl milling company.
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