Timcast IRL - Trump Deploys 2000 Feds To MN Over FRAUD, Democrat ADMITS Somali Daycare Fraud IS REAL w/ Lectern Guy

Episode Date: January 7, 2026

Tim, Phil, & Tate are joined by Lectern Guy and Graham Allen to discuss 2,000 federal agents deployed to Minneapolis in escalating immigration clamp down, Tim Walz daughter admitting there was fraud amidst scandal, Tulsi Gabbard's standing against military intervention in Venezuela and Trump WH confirming it is working to acquire Greenland. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Tate @realTateBrown (everywhere) Producer: Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Lectern Guy @lecternleader (everywhere) Graham Allen @GrahamAllen (everywhere)

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That's immigration fraud. And the law is clear. If you commit immigration fraud, they can denaturalize and deport. We'll talk about that. Then Tim Walts's daughter has come out in a podcast and admitted, yeah, there's Somali daycare fraud going on in the state. So it's funny that all these liberals rushed out to defend these daycare saying, what do you mean? They're all totally legitimate. And then she's like, well, my dad's resigning,

but yeah, there's enough truth to that that, you know, it's actually happening. And then Donald Trump putting out a truth post saying that we're going to take large quantities of oil from Venezuela and sell it. And he's going to be the one managing the money because you know, you're going to make sure it's done right. But of course, it was always about the oil. The question is, is it good for America? And there's a big question in this as to how the right has been reaction. to the actions of Donald Trump and to each other, to be completely honest, because there is, of course, this civil war among the right with various personalities fracturing off into different factions. At the same time, what I absolutely love about this Venezuela story is corporate press, some of which are still attacking Trump, no matter what he does is wrong, some of which have gone rather neutral and are now just saying Trump, comma, the president, and, you know, took out the president of Venezuelan is going to take their oil instead of saying, you know, Trump, comma, convicted sex offender and fraudster. they're running it neutral, which you get it. Trump says we're going to go into a foreign country.

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It's the lectern guy. Hey, everybody. What's going on? Happy to be here on January 6th. Get up in that microphone, bro. Even more. You got to get up in the microphone. Happy January 6 to all who celebrate.

My name's Adam Johnst, Lecter Guy, author of the book, taking a stand about my journey through the federal prison and the government's abuse. You can buy that on unlicensed Furniturevus.com. Also, I'm here to announce my candidacy for Manatee County Commissioner. I just filed paperwork today. I'm running because the best way to fix things is to start in your backyard.

Right on. And the Democrats held a vigil, a candlelight vigil. For J6, which is Australian, I guess it's for Ashley Babbitt. I'm not sure what they're holding a candlelight vigil for. But it's a vigil for the death of their party. They're flailing right now. Right on. It's going to be fun. We got Grammys back. I am back. Thanks for having me. I wish it was under better circumstances that I'm here. I'm filling in. But happy to be here as always. Let's do this thing.

Yeah. Earlier today, a couple members of our crew were in a very serious car accident. And currently, one is still in the hospital. And I guess it's serious, but they're going to, they'll be okay. Mark, hope everything's all right. But it was a very serious car accident. The story that I'm told, Actually, I'm not going to say too much because this could result in. I'm going to stop there. You might get it. But the vehicle they were in, they were riding with Uber, and they got teaboned by a bus. And I believe we were told by the police is the Uber driver's fault. So the car flipped, very serious injuries. And for this reason, Ian, who had rushed to the hospital to go and check up on everybody,

because of – I don't want to rag on anyone's private, but there were some sick people that were around in the ER. very seriously ill. So we asked, okay, if you were in the hospital, don't come here because it was serious illness. Not from our guys, but from the other people that were in their room and around their room. So we asked Graham to fill in because of Ian magnanimously and honorably said he'll hold back because he doesn't want to get anybody sick after, you know, someone there. I'm not going to say what the illness was because it's privacy issues. We don't know who this person was who was sick, but they were very, very sick. So that being said, it sucked, but I believe everyone's going to be okay. So, you know, here's hoping.

Kellan was pretty banged up. He was injured, but they did discharge him, and he's going to be taking time off because it was a very serious car accident. They flipped over. I guess the guys, after the accident, just woke up in the ambulance because of how serious the injuries were, very serious head injuries. But we're hoping everyone recovers and they're okay. So thanks for coming in on short notice. Glad to be here. I happen to be in town. It works out.

It worked out. And Phil is here as well. Hello, everybody. My name is Philibonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Tate, how you doing? I'm doing all right.

I'm doing all right. Yeah, no, Ian, so I'll bring the graphene discussions. I've been reading up. I was g rocking it. Awesome. I really have a good understanding. Yeah. Tate Brown, host Tim Kess News Live.

I'm happy to be here. Right on. Let's jump to the story. We got this from CNN. 2000 federal agents are being deployed to Minneapolis in an escalated immigration push. Here's what we know. They say in the days since a conservative content creator raised allegations of fraud in a YouTube video with little evidence. I love how they do this.

Okay. I love how that is because look at what they're saying, right? A conservative conduct, they could call me a journalist. They could. Allegations of a fraud in a YouTube video with little evidence about Somali run daycare centers. Here's the New York Post. Tim Walts's firebrand daughter, Hope admits there is enough truth in Minnesota fraud scandal as she opens up about her dad's decision to drop out of the governor's. race. I love that they do these things. CNN just peppers the lies into these stories. And then at the

same time, you get the daughter of the Democrat resigning being like, yeah, it's basically happening. So major escalation. Here's the weird, the weird stuff going on right now. Okay. I was going to talk about this. I'm going online and I'm seeing a bunch of people on the right attacking Trump. You know, Dan Bongino announced he's coming back. People are attacking Dan Bongino. And I'm just sitting here being like, are we not happy that 2,000 federal agents are being deployed? Like, I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Trump is perfect does everything right all the time, nor that he's evil and wrong and doing everything wrong all the time. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Dan Bongino walked through the doors of the FBI

and instantly just turned into an evil demon. That's ridiculous. There's politics involved and not everything gets done the way you want to get done. What is happening to where so many people are like, I've just decided Trump's bad now and I've just said Dan by Gino's bad now. It's like, bro, you were allowed to criticize them for screwing up and doing bad things. But we're looking at the story about what's going on in Minneapolis. And they're responding quickly with something good.

Are we going to act like it's a bad thing? I don't get it. They get the ice cream. They get the whipped cream, but they don't get the cherry on top. And that's the problem. They're mad. They're just having a temper tantrum because they didn't get everything they want. The people that are really upset are the people that believe in their heart that there are, you know, people in the government or in the, in the Epstein files or what have you, that actually were pedophiles.

that are that were you know raping kids and they both they already believe that and so what they want is confirmation of what they already believe whether or not that's true i don't know because because well i mean i the odds are it's true you know i don't know but but because dan bonjino was head of the fbi and they and didn't give them what they want deputy or deputy head deputy uh of the fbi and because he didn't give them what they want well he he must be hiding the information for the fbi so he's part of the plan it's not just just that he couldn't do it. It's that, oh, he's in on it. Well, I've been down the road from where Dan worked over at the Pentagon, really across the bridge or whatever. I've said from the very

beginning, everything with Dan Bongino, look, I know what Dan gave up because I know what we had to give up to go do a very similar thing at the Pentagon. I've said from the very beginning, I trust Dan. Do I necessarily trust every agent that gave Dan everything that he's, asked for and it was given to him in its entirety how it was originally no just like i saw was secretary of heggseth he would ask for things and it would come in halves or not the whole thing or things would be left out we have let the american people believe that everything is just to tim's point instant like that and i do believe that people thought that dan bonjino was going to walk in the fbi building he was going to grab people like comie by the

throat and throw them in jail for the rest of their lives with no due process, no trials, no nothing. And if you actually look at what Dan did get accomplished, it actually is very impressive. And I believe that even more things are going to happen now that he's out from things that he initiated, got started, policies in place. They reorganized the entire structure of the FBI. I was in his office when he showed it to me. the entire structure on how the FBI was organized.

Dan Bonjino and Cash Patel eradicated, fired, got rid of, reorganized everything, but normal people don't see that stuff, and they don't realize how important that is as they move forward. Yeah, the entire Intel apparatus for the last 60 years has been targeting right-wingers. It's going to take a little bit of time to reorient these sorts of things. Like people have this really grandiose idea of what this is going to look like as a political project. And in their head, they're expecting like a revolution and these sorts of things. And it's like we're trying to posture ourselves as the legitimate government, you know, the legitimate party.

And we're trying to correctly portray the Democrats as these crazy insane people because that's what they are. You got to conduct things in a way that makes sense that's going to set yourself up for future success. You don't want to just like completely go balls to the walls. I'm going to derail everything and just say that I think big tech and, prominent influencers like Candice Owens are intentionally trying to destroy the right. And so YouTube puts Candace on the front page. That's how she gets massive viewership largely. It's promotion.

And they're doing it because it's destabilizing to the right. Dan Bongino, and it feels rather coordinated. We can get super conspiratorial. How do you get rid of Dan Bongino who's getting $150K concurrence on Rumble? Bring him to the White House. Bring him to the FBI. He goes in. It's an immovable object.

he's unable to get these things, get these things. Then they immediately send out their propped up influencers to accuse him of being evil when it's more like, it's politics. I can criticize Dan all day for, for, I'm disappointed. And Donald Trump for things I think did wrong as well, but I'm not stupid. I praise the things they do right. And if not Dan, then who. But I take a look at what's going on right now.

And you've got, there was one post where I want to stress this like a, we have a deal, we have a sponsorship with Kalshi, major competitor polymarket. And then you get this viral post where. someone posted, Tim Poole is part of the 7K Polymarket Network, you know, funded by Israel to go after Candace Owens. And I'm like, we have a sponsorship deal with their competitor. But it's, you go on X and you're seeing all these prominent people on the right, just saying the stupidest things in the world. You've got people that are just screaming as Jews nonstop. Candice Owens comes out and says, we invaded Venezuela for Zionists. And it's like, what? That's just like an incongruent

statement. But there are a lot of prominent people that people have been in the show. I got a message. I don't know. It might have been you. Someone mess to me saying, Tim, why are so many of your former guests backstabbing you? And I'm like, yeah, I don't know. Weird stuff going on. And then I'll give a shout to Matt Strickland, the guy from VA who during COVID, the state came and seized all his liquor and shut him down.

So we rallied, brought him on the show, went down to support him. And then what does he do? He goes on X, makes up a fake story about us having no security, lies and claims he went to our Virginia student he's never been to so that he can just say Tim Poole's an Israel guy. I'm like, I'm looking at all this going, wow, why would he do that? Well, here's what I think, right? We're talking about, and I know we derailed largely from the principal story that we're bringing up, Trump deploying 2,000 feds over the immigration stuff. Good.

Exactly. I'm like, wow, I'm really happy about what's going on. But for some reason, I go on X and all of these, not not a lot of these prominent, I shouldn't say most of it, but many prominent right-wing people have flipped on a dime, their opinions are inverted, Trump is bad now, everything. he's doing is wrong and it's the Jews and I'm just like I don't understand how some of these high profile people flipped on a dime seriously it makes no sense I do understand how the lesser personalities are doing it because they're just grifters and you can really see who it is they need money so my

my opinion generally right now is that why is it that Candace Owens is propped up on the front page of YouTube and my front page there's no default front page but why is YouTube recommending someone breaking their rules to so many people It destroys the right populist movement in a midterm year, which we're entering, and Trump's going to get impeached. Yep. So then what happens? People like Matt Strickland, a disloyal betrayer who the lowest circle of hell is reserved for, knifes me in the back by lying about us, leaving me shocked. He could call me on the phone. Well, people like him, he's a grifter.

Yes, he was wronged by the government. We came to his aid. but what he's looking at is how do I get more? And so if all of these people are watching Candace and she's doing so well, I should be like her. And one by one, these retards march and locks up with her crackpot worldview. Dan Bongino is now the bad guy. Trump is now the bad guy. And no, no, it wasn't the Democrats.

It was the Jews. Good luck. I mean, the influencer things, I mean, it's going to happen. People want to make money. They want to be famous. They want to have clicks and likes. I'm more concerned about the general population that falls along with us, right? What is their mindset for hearing these things and saying, I believe these things, these things to be true?

And I think it's because it's very simple. They want to blame someone. They want to have a name for it, right? And the easiest way to do that is say the people who are in charge, those are the names that I'm not going to blame. Because what happened to kids is terrible. We can all agree on that. And when you have evidence come out that's redacted, when you have, you know, people think they're slowing it down. They want to blame someone because what happened was terrible.

But they didn't just walk in. There's not some room where all the information, all the files are sitting there with a nice little pretty bow on it. and not being walked through this. That's not real at all. And investigations do take time. This has been a 20-year process, right, with Jeffrey Epstein. It's been a very long time. And I mean, nothing's going to come out for it. It's not going to happen. And I don't think the left would have been, look, I'm not a criminal mastermind. I did take down the entire government, you know, in a course of 20 minutes. But I wouldn't leave things behind that incriminated myself and my friends on the way out the door. Yeah. There's no button at the DOJ or DHS or any of these organizations. There's no fix everything button that like you can just press and immediately solve everything. And then these people who operate in this sort of outrage. That's where all the incentive structures point to is outrage, click, rage baiting, that sort of thing. You can't expect them to understand prudence.

Like that's what the Trump administration is doing here. They're being prudent. They're being careful. They're being calculated. Because that's how you maintain power. I don't completely agree. I think to a certain degree, yes. I think with like the Epstein stuff, Trump wants to wield the one ring.

I Trump gets in and he's like no no to the epitro dollar I think it largely has to do with the petro dollar I think we're going to find Saudi princes on the list I think Trump is like I'm trying to renegotiate a contract with Saudi Arabia and if these princes are ousted that's going to jam up our petro dollar negotiations Democrats are playing a game of chicken where they're basically like if we can't have the ball nobody can so they're the reason while these liberals are coming on being like Epstein and they're screaming about is because they know Trump's between a rock and a hard place on the on the petro dollar deal you've got Democrats who sell it who demand we remove Maduro now claiming Trump's wrong from removing Maduro. It's insane. The question then

becomes, why are people on the right all of a sudden on board with this? Well, the Democrats got smart. They tried in 2018 to censor and ban people who opposed the uniparty establishment machine, and it did not work. It backfired. Some people did get banned. That did work. But for the most part, Trump's back. Guess what? Charlie Kirk is dead. If you take a look at all of the machines and mechanisms that helped Trump and the populist movement win and the unit party establishment got knocked down to an extreme degree, these things are being fundamentally dismantled with Charlie Kirk's assassination, the attacks on Erica Kirk. Listen, you're allowed to not like Erica Kirk, but she's not really that much in the spotlight. I saw this video of a woman insulting her,

and I just, I thought to myself, like, I don't understand what Erica Kirk has done to warrant this extended campaign of people attacking her. By all means, you can be like, she's unqualified. Who is she to run turning point? Okay. I mean, she was just the wife of Charlie. But to do these like insults, mockries, accusing her of knowing about her husband's assassination. I'm just like, it's gross. What did she do? I don't look at Nancy Pelosi and talk about the insider trading and be like scumbag. I can look at Chuck Schumer similar things and be like Democrat, uniparty Schill, scumbag. Lindsay Graham, all these things. Erica Kirk's barely been in the spotlight. What the is going on where tons of prominent right wing personalities are marching. in lockstep with this inverted narrative overnight. Trump wins like like flipping on a dime. All these conservatives are now living in this this crazy world of conspiracies, the French legions, the Jews, Israel forced us to invade Venezuela. And when you look at what is happening, remove intent from all of it. I just look at the actions. What have we seen so far? Dan Bongino is now a villain. He was the hero. They were celebrating cash Patel the same thing.

everybody campaigning. They're unsatisfied with what they were able to get done. Sure. I look at what Trump did in his first term and I say, yeah, Trump did good, but messed a lot of things up. I voted for him again. I don't expect him to get everything done perfectly. We said it over and over again. Now Dan and Cash are villains. Now Marjorie Taylor Green is out. You've got Matt Gates in a, I don't have too much bad. I don't have anything really to say about make it's critically, but he is moving away. And him and Dan are now at odds. you've got the death, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which has negatively impacted turning point, which was a massive force organizing for the right populist movement. And you've got Candace Owens being propped up and effectively driving the normie mainstream right and suburban moms into retardation. I'm like, I look at all of this. And the, and the one thing I say, the one thing I see that says to me, it's intentional is that Candice has broken every rule on YouTube. I mean it figuratively. She's broken tons of the rules and YouTube makes sure she's propped up. And I will add this too. Because it's not about her. I know people can be like,

who cruise book is. It's not about her. It's about big tech and what big tech is doing. Earlier today, on my following feed on X, I screenshot of this. I shared it internally. I got a post from Candace Owens on my following feed, not my for you. I don't go to the four you. It was following people I follow in reverse chronological recent to see what's coming in the news. I don't follow Candace Owens on X. Why was her post in my feed? Why is she being put up on the front page of YouTube? Why is she breaking the rules and being propped up while saying retarded things that is resulting in people, some of them we used to watch this show, believing retarded things.

Come the midterms, these people are anti-Trump now. Yeah. And they're anti-Republican and it's going to help Democrats win. So my opinion is, and this is a hypothesis, not a theory, Democrats realize censorship doesn't work. What you have to do is controlled opposition. Infect the right with retardation. So what do you have? Trump wins in 2020, 2024 with suburban housewives. Okay, get rid of them. How do you do it? You need a female coded show to make all the women anti-Trump. And that's the move they're making because of R of K Jr. this happened. I look at all this stuff right now and I'm like, it's intentional. It's coordinated. The Democrats are going to win in the midterms. Trump will be impeached. And then who knows if J.D. Vance will win because.

is Greipers don't want him. Neocons don't want them. So what support base will he have left? MAGA? No. Most of the MAGA people are, I shouldn't say most, but MAGA is being split between those who are now critical of Trump and prominent Trump's personalities, meaning if I was going to make a bet on Kalshi or Pauley Market, I wouldn't bet on J.D. Vance at this point because the rights fractured. Now, to be fair, maybe he still does win the primary. But if the Democrats can muster up a middling marginal figure, maybe Newsom, I don't know. With the fracturing on the right, how do the Republicans even win in 2028? Charlie Kirk was going to be the VP.

That was the exclusive reporting, and they killed him. How quickly we forget that they're actually killing us, they're shooting us, and we're worried about who's the popular kid on the field. It's actually kind of concerning because we just got back into office. It's only been a year. We've not really recaptured any territory. We're talking about towing the line at this point, but we've not really captured a territory.

And Republicans are very good at losing the midterms when we have a clean sweep, historically speaking. But I think the story we're talking about here, the 2000 federal agents. This should be larger on MAGA accounts. Yeah. This is how you win the midterms. This is what we ask for.

We ask for these types of reforms. We understand we have a very, very big issue with immigration. Post this stuff. Talk about this stuff. You want to be mad at Trump for not doing things? Keep it yourself for a little bit. We'll get there. But this is what's necessary to elevate the levels of deportations to the level that people

have been saying for the past year that they want to see. There's so many people that are so blackpilled on how many people are not getting deported. There's not enough deportations. If there was 20 million people that came in, they're not doing even closer. They're going to get rid of maybe a couple hundred thousand or maybe half a million. That's not close. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Which, fair enough, I understand that the numbers don't, you know, the math isn't math and, but at the same time, you need to have funding to get this stuff done. That's what the big, beautiful bill had. That was one of the reasons that Trump was saying this has to pass because we need this kind of injection of cash to be able to do the deportations that we need.

We need to expand ice. Now that it's here, people are not really even paying attention. I want to address this comments on Rumble where they said she shut up and your following because someone you follow Compton on her post. How do you not know this? Wrong. Of course I know this. I buy ads.

I operate at all these social media platforms. I own a multi-million dollar company with 40 plus staffers operating on all these social media platforms. Okay. This was weird. A post from her showed up on my feed in my following recent on X. no comments, no retweets. I don't follow her. Why? Honest quick, was it a glitch? A glitch put Candace Owens in my personal feed. I called her a very disparaging term on this show. I don't follow her on X. There was no comment made on her

post. I have the screenshot. Maybe I should just tweet it out and say like, this is really weird. Why is X pushing her into my feed? There was no comment. I fully understand. If someone I follow comments in other person's post, you will see their post and their comment. This is not that case. I genuinely believe that big tech is propping up Candace Owens because she says retarded shit and she's tricking with conservatives into being retarded. And there are a bunch of people who used to who have been on the show several times that I've considered friends who now don't want to come on the show. And they're tweeting about the Jews nonstop. Yeah. They sound like they're fucking retarded.

By all means criticize Israel. By all means criticize there's prominent Jews in media with agendas. But y'all sound like retards. and if you go to a suburban housewife and you say, they're going to be like, I'm just trying to buy diapers. So why are they going to vote for Republicans? Well, I mean, you have this issue.

This has been the big issue with the conservative movement is, you know, Trump won, you know, there was some misfires, these sorts of things. Then the Biden winner, you basically expand your camp because people love to have the feeling that they have knowledge that no one else has. And that's what gave the right the edge for the longest time is that we were kind of sexy. We were kind of outsiders.

We were always like, once we get in power, we're going to get these things done. Trump, too, we're like, empower all of our guys are in here. Things are looking up. Well, these people that like that feeling of having hidden knowledge, they're natural contrarians. And so you've invited all these people into our ranks,

these sort of natural contrarians. Now that we're seeing stuff like this, everything is trending in the right direction, everything from this admin, you know, everything, but most things from this admin have been directionally correct. It's not enough for these people

because they're natural contrarians. They're always skeptical of every single thing. And partially that's valid. I mean, considering what we've all gone through over the last 60 years, But at a certain point, you need to sit back and focus. Like, hey, guys, like you're saying, Charlie Kirk's dead. Like, this isn't a game anymore.

This isn't like, oh, we can have these sexy, edgy views. It's like, this is life and death. This is, we're talking about the country you're going to leave to your children and grandchildren. That's it. Let's tighten ranks a little bit here. Generational mindset. That's how we have to be. I think, Tim, I agree with you 100.

I agree with you 100%. Here's the bigger thing. You've got all these black-pilled people that talk about people like us. Oh, it's the Jews. and they're bought for and all this and kind of stuff. In my opinion, that's the new litmus test of who the real grifters and who the real traders are. And what I mean by that is, everyone that does this for a living, you know certain things.

We had this very conversation. I would be shocked if you guys didn't have it on the show here, election night. We all looked at each other and said, you know if Trump wins, we're probably going to lose 25, 30 percent of revenue next year. because in good times advertisers don't buy. I mean, that's just kind of how things work, right? This is a business after all. The same people, the same people that are now attacking Trump and all of this, how do you make up for that revenue?

How do you make up for that? You go after the thing that causes division that people are paying for. I've said this a million times. It's not just Candace Owens. I warn everyone that listens to talking heads, we know for a fact in Congress. we know for a fact that YouTube and everything absolutely admitted that they were censoring, shadow banning, de-platforming people, but yet you have all of these conservatives that blew up during the Biden administration and are blowing up and being featured now that are breaking

every rule and all of this. And back when they were on the conservative train and pro-Trump, they still somehow were making it. All of them are now on my wide. Watch list every single one of them. I don't trust a thing that any of them say because how how do you how do you grow in that time if you're actually speaking the things that they claim were bad. I'm not interested in like you know with like Tim Dylan and Theo Vaughn being on the cutter train. I am not claiming they're paid by cutter. I'm saying why are these comedian guys coming out and getting on the Israel stuff? Yeah. I just and and cutter and the weirdest thing in the world to me is when I go out into the regular touch grass world and talk to people, none of this exists. None of this exists. There's people that don't know about Venezuela still. I was talking to a guy on Sunday and who was like, what happened?

Yeah. And I'm like, wow. And then you go online and these prominent personalities are starting to align around weird things that are not in the zeitgeist. Israel, Qatar is not in the, okay, you go outside. I'm driving in Loudoun County, right? So our studio, which we're not going back to following the shooting. I think this is clear to everybody.

There were people who were like Tim's full of it. He'll be back, watch and like, no, we're not. We were shot at. We were in West Virginia, and so we were about 30 seconds away from Loudoun County. Loudoun County is where at the school that father's daughter, that young girl was raped and the father went in and screamed, they dragged him out. When you would drive into Loudon, there are parents outside holding up signs protesting. We went to, it's the Catocton skate park.

Look it up. And this is around that time. And we could see tables set up and parents were pamphiling. That's real world stuff. Yeah. Masks during COVID. We would go places and see the mask signs real world stuff. Literally nowhere, anywhere do I go outside and see people going Israel. Qatar, Israel is the Jews. Doesn't exist. And so I'm sitting to be like, why are they talking about this? Why are our podcasts focusing on this? It's salacious. Why are prominent conservative personalities accusing Trump of being a Zionist? what the is going on? Yeah. Well, and like Trump has these like supposed crises where the entire, well, this sort of

apparatus that we're describing like comes out and they're like, this is the end of Trump. Trump's betrayed us. And you look at the polling and nothing changes, nothing budges. Because the average American is just like not paying attention to these weird, like, esoteric stories. They're concerned about prices of things. They are concerned about like is the illegal immigration topic being tackled?

Stuff that they can feel and see in their everyday life. And then you see these people come out. This is the end of MAGA. Check the polling the next day. Didn't move. Yeah. I think it's taboo. It's salacious. It definitely gets clicks and likes.

And it's kind of the one conversation we haven't had Israel. I think it's fascinating to listen to, but I don't really take much of it to heart, right? And I don't think these people really believe in it either. I think a lot of it is just this is the thing that's keeping my family fed and keeping my car payment made. You know, I think it's reductive to MAGA as well. When we say, I don't want to send money to Israel, that's reductive. What I mean to say is, I don't want to send money anywhere, anywhere. And when we just focus on one country and say, oh, they must be anti-Israel, no, I think we should keep all of our money.

People can't afford their groceries. People can't afford their rent. People have credit card debt. No one has any money in savings. So when I say things like that, that's what I mean. I think that's what MAGA means. I think the reality is that everything is fake and gay. That's true.

I think that what the algorithm is on YouTube and X and all these places, literally except Rumble, are intentionally allowed. I said this about our show years ago. People were like, Tim, why is your show doing so well? It's a pressure release valve. The machine state allows us to operate on YouTube because, at least for the time being, they did. Because we were, you know, I described it like there's an island and the cliff sides are eroding. They wipe out most conservatives and keep the moderates to be the right. So that's why they allow us to exist because if you come out and just ban literally anybody aligned with this worldview, then you, You cause a shockwave.

You get riots, you get protest. And that's literally what happened. And they realized it wasn't working. So they're shifting their method now and saying, no, no, we need to be the right. We need to control them. I think it's all fake. I think they're intentionally propping up certain posts. I think retweets, likes, comments.

They're mostly bodded and fake. There was a viral clip where this woman on Twitch accidentally revealed that she understood how bodding worked. Basically, it was like they were doing a live stream. And then someone mentioned botting. She was, well, you know, it would cost you like 50K. do this and a guy turns and goes, how do you know how much it costs a bot? Yeah. And then she like, I just, I know people. It's like, right. Whether it's private or intentional, think about how a government can control its people, especially following the Trump movement. It's possible. I'm not saying I know for sure,

but here's a hypothesis. With the rise of the internet, they didn't expect a movement to emerge that would elect someone like Donald Trump. They thought Trump would lose. Hillary Clinton was very unlikable and with me magic, they call it, a movement. was built that actually got Trump a little bit more votes than the machines they'd expected. Trump wins. What do they do? Accusing of being a Russian spy. Impeach him. Accusum of crimes. Eventually, Joe Biden. We have questions about the 2020 election. And it's funny because I have these people tweeting at me, be like, oh, no, you're out board with the election fraud. No. Pennsylvania changed their election rules in violation of their state constitution.

Every stop was pulled out to make sure Trump would lose. Well, guess what? What happened? thanks to the intrepid work of turning point USA and i genuinely mean of turning point USA charlie kirk got young people to vote conservative now look at what's going on they killed him and by they i mean interested parties who opposed what charlie did whoever you think it was he's he's gone it seems now that the realization was we have to we are going to actually control the narratives what's allowed. Our show is allowed as a pressure release valve. They ban Alex Jones. They ban Nick Fentes and all these people. Now they're basically like, let's be these people. The algorithm promotes people who are clearly breaking the rules as we already described. And you're wondering why it is.

And the lesser personalities march in lockstep because they see someone getting 3,000 retweets posting Zijus. But I'm going to say it again. When I go outside and I see parents protesting that a boy was in the girl's bathroom and raped her. I see people in Loudoun County, testing. I go to a poker table, which is usually the basis of my conversations, if you watch the show, or I go to a venue or a restaurant or meet someone in person. There are real tangible things they're talking about. Even Venezuela is not one of them. Foreign policy stuff is beyond people. But Israel is certainly not there. But for these people online, it's very clear to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's very clear to see people following a political narrative that is not attached to the regular working class

person is it, it seems intentional so that the issues in this midterm election are detached from the working class person. Prominent conservative personalities, libertarians, conservative or otherwise, who used to go on shows like this and say, we need cheaper gas. We need to secure our borders. We got to stop the fraud are now going the Jews. And if you go to a regular working class person and say, would you help me fight the Jews? They're going to say, huh? And if you go to them and say, would you help me secure the border, deal with this illegal immigration so he can stop the murder and the crime? They go, yeah, I heard about that. There are people who talk to me every day about or a routine conversation I hear is about illegal immigration in Chicago, how they're giving away property and community centers

to illegal immigrants, how they're giving hotels to illegal immigrants in New York City. These things affect regular people. Gen Z, people being like, I can't afford a home and I'm watching them put up these hotels for illegal immigrants. Now what are people talking about on social media? No, no. The Venezuela thing was the Jews again. And I'm like, okay, good luck winning a midterm election. That being said, I do think we've talked about that quite a bit. So we should jump to this next story. We've got this from the White House indeed. President Donald J. Trump announces interim authorities in Venezuela will be turning over between 30 and 50 million barrels of high quality sanctioned oil to the good old US of A. Trump trothed. I am pleased to announce the interim authorities in Venezuela will be turning over between 30 and 50 million barrels of oil. 30 and 50 million barrels of high quality sanctioned oils to the U.S.

The oil will be sold at its market price and that money will be controlled by me. As president of the United States of America, to ensure it is used to benefit the people of Venezuela and the United States. I've asked Energy Secretary Chris Wright to execute this plan immediately. It will be taken by storage ships and brought directly to unloading docs in the United States. Thank you for your attention to this matter. So just a moment ago, we were talking about the weird trends and the shift in the narrative.

Let me put it like this. Let me, let me, let me ask this. Why are there people who are effectively on, effectively, I don't mean literally, but effectively on the side of Chinese expansion. Honest question. Venezuela in the 2000s seized American oil assets. Stole it from us, billions of dollars. And we did nothing.

We sanction them. We say, that's BS. Now you've got a combination of factors, including. the narco terrorism stuff, narco gangs, crime expansion, but more importantly, Iran and China operating through Venezuela, and Venezuela is selling oil that we've sanctioned to Iran and China. China has to import a lot of this oil. Why would we just allow them to do this? They have aggressed upon us a long time ago. There's already conflict, and they're aiding and abetting China. I'm not suggesting it's good that we went in and snatched Maduro, but I am saying this does

benefit the United States more than, say, Afghanistan or Iraq, but there are people once again on the right or blindly just in the America shouldn't do these things, it feels more like people are marching behind fake narratives as opposed to actually having a nuanced argument about this. So again, with the previous conversation that it seems like people have flipped in a dime, I see the exact same thing here. There is a nuanced conversation about Venezuela. The issues that took place with the regime change wars we launched by invading Iraq and Afghanistan are palpable. And we can discuss all of the problems. that have emerged. We're still dealing with Afghanistan. The removal of the president of Venezuela is an

entirely different story. And we don't want it to become a regime change war. I don't want boots on the ground. But there is nuance. It's completely different. There are people who are just tweeting things where they're like, it's one or zero. That's it. The United States should do nothing. They should let Venezuela sell oil that they stole our assets to produce and give it to China. Well, they're talking out of both sides of the mouth then because you can't on one hand say, We want someone to do something and then get mad when someone do something. And we didn't start a war. We took one guy.

We took one person and it was kind of badass how we did it too, wasn't it? Literally. Perfect operation, by the way. Do you know what gave me hope about this administration? Not a single leak about that operation, not a single leak came out. No one knew that was happening. It just happened. And it gave me faith and hope that maybe just maybe there are things happening behind the scenes.

And we don't hear about them because there are no leaks. We actually do have a secure White House. And we have a secure staff that's not going to let things go. It gives me that maybe one day things will come out that make me very, very happy. And you know what helps is ejecting all of the adversarial media from the Pentagon. I mean, hello. Everyone was like, why did that happen? It's like, because this would have been on the front page everywhere if that happened,

because these people are sourcing stories. Also, it's hilarious. It's like Brian Krasseen in there who's like always chirping about Ukraine. It's like, dude, people with zero like geopolitical consciousness are like jumping on this story. Do you know how you defeat Russia? You flood the market with cheap oil and you force them to bring their oil price down. That will destroy their economy. This is the worst thing to happen to Russia than any victory Ukraine has inflicted on them in the battlefield.

This is how you conduct the geopolitical affairs. It's how you bend the arm of our political adversaries. This is geopolitics 101. And these people, their entire political dichotomy is just Trump or no Trump. Like that's all it really comes down to. Yeah, but my point is that on the right it's happening now, too. Well, on the right, again, that goes back to the natural contrarians, where they're just dissatisfied with anybody that's our guys in power. I agree.

I think based on the trends that we're seeing the response to Trump, from the right even, is that we are going back to uniparty politics. I imagine by this time, you know, four years from now, we are going to be, it's going to be Hillary Clinton versus Mitt Romney's politics. You're going to get 20. Look, it was supposed to be Charlie Kirk and J.D. Vance. That's the reporting that Kirk was going to be the VP for J.D. in 28. I don't know what's going to happen in 28.

It may be J.D. Vance, but the way the rights fighting, especially still lingering into a midterm, year. I'm not sure that they're going to be able to muster up a coalition to win. It's going to be sounds like 2032 is the plan to return to Hillary Clinton versus John McCain. It just seems to me the issue is the Democrat Party because the parties are reacting to each other. And we were talking yesterday about Mamdani and I was evaluating Memdani's viability as like this truly transformational mayor in New York City, even though the transformation would be grim. But I made the point. I was like, I think fundamentally he's going to be rage baiting the right for four years because all he's really trying to do is legitimize his ideas in the Democrat Party.

How do you do that? Will you become the boogeyman for the right? So that way people on the left say, wow, this Memdani guy seems to draw the ire of Republicans more than anybody else. And the way that people conduct politics now, because it's a outrage economy, is they just seek for how do I inflame the other side as much as possible. I'm right.

It's kind of base when we do it. But, you know, that's something to be said about that. So it's really tough to see a situation in which either party sort of moderates, like their base actually moderates their taste. I just don't see the appetite for that in either party. Well, you vote for the guy the other side hates the most, right? Yep. So this Manami in New York, everyone voted for him because every conservative said,

oh my gosh, he's a communist. Even the president's talking about it. And they showed out numbers for it. They did. But, I mean, New York's a petri dish. It's, as far as I'm concerned, it's a lost cause. You know, I don't think they're going to recover from that. I mean, even the conservative guy who was running, how conservative was he?

He was talking about seizing real estate and then redistributing it for a low-income housing. Yeah, well, it's even, I mean, obviously there's a different story at play here, but like, even Memdani, like, there's not that much American actually do in New York City. It's a city council driven, like, government. So what's really going to be the most consequential result of Memdani's sort of reign, so to speak, is just like vape shop, more vape shops opening and just like the decline continuing. Like, I don't think he's going to actually, like, establish this, like, Maoist state in New York. What he's doing is actually worse. Because it's one thing if it's like concentrated to New York City, New York City falls apart and everyone in this, like, country goes, wow, we can't do that. We can't do that. We can. can't repeat that. What's happening is far worse. He's going to be ineffective as mayor and he's going to legitimize his ideas in the Democrat Party. And now the entire Democrat Party is going to be Memdani style politics. That's far worse. It'd be much better if it was just contained in New York City. That would be optimal. But that's just not what's going to happen. It's just going to rage bait. He's going to continue to say these really inflammatory things. We as commentators have no choice but to jump on because you've got to correct the record. And it's just going,

it's just going to legitimize his philosophy. I think so. I mean, there's a lot of them in office now too. I mean, you've got to go, see, you've got a handful of people that I've just come out and said, yes, communism is good. Yeah. I mean, and that's the thing. It's at the end of the day, even if they don't say it's communism, they're repeating lines that Marx used. All the policies are all the policies that are destroyed socialist countries around the world. Doesn't matter what society it was before the socialist got in power. It's the same result. The capital leaves because nothing is is is holding it there people's money leave and then the tax base dries up they start taxing the middle class or expropriating the property of the middle class which is what they're

hoping to do in the united states it's it's just a bad bad thing that the the democrats have allowed for this kind of ideology to infest them it used to be where you had democrats that were you know fairly conservative or would agree with republicans that is those days are over that is gone. And now you're going to see more and more politicians that are like the, that are basically the far left. I personally think that's somewhat due to the fact that the left is more internationally informed now because of the internet, right? Like Democrats in the U.S. that used to be Democrats would get their ideas from other Democrats and stuff. Nowadays, you get people on the internet that are getting basically fed socialist slop from other countries and stuff. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this is this is the thing about like social media that causes problems I was talking about on the show.

day is uh yeah we are developing sort of this international consciousness was really only occurring on the left and this is why antifa is increasingly effective like uh in berlin they had an attack they believe it was like last night our time where they effectively took out the entire power grid in berlin it was an antifa cell and the issue is like you can't contain these things anymore like that's not just something that happens in germany that's happening globally that's why when we classified antifa as an fTO that wasn't just like a slide of hand trick so we could go after it was like, no, they genuinely are collaborating over, like over borders. And that's what's so terrifying.

And then this point with like Memdani, it's a really good point that needs to be made is we have this tendency in America. So just want to go back to like the 90s. Like we're like, oh, that's when things are perfect, the 90s, 30s. But the thing that you have to do, if you're really trying to restore America, if you're trying to make America great again, you have to ratchet all the way back because you can't ratchet liberalism back to an earlier stage and then just freeze it there and hope it doesn't develop into this.

Every like 10 times out of 10, it's going to result. and Memdani because that's how political philosophy works. You have to keep moving the football down the field in order if you have like a, you know, sort of vision for what you want the country to be. And it's just going to naturally turn into this every single time. Like you can't just freeze a political ideology in place. It's always going to continue to develop along these lines. You'll never reach equilibrium.

It's always a pendulum. Exactly. Yeah. Well, I don't see the policies that the Democrats are pushing being popular with the older people in the United States, but I do see a lot of energy in the young people. Yeah. Well, and it's exactly as they, I mean, because they've been seeking to overhaul the demographics of the United States, and there's no question about that.

Biden was pretty open about that. And so it's just going to get worse as the older population dies off because, again, the younger you get, the less American. It's like it's more and more people who are foreign born or the, you know, like their children of foreign born. And typically children of foreign born's politics reflect their parents. So it's like the Democrats have set this play up. They set this up 60 years ago, like with the Hartzeller Act.

Like this has been in development for a very long time. is to make Republicans just politically unviable as an institution. And so that's what like, that's kind of the problem. I don't think people realize like there was an hourglass that was turned over. And in many ways we kind of ran out of time already. Trump's sort of brought denaturalization to the table. It's like, okay, we might actually be able to undo some of this damage, but it's like, dude, this has been a masterful play about the Democrats.

They're not idiots. Some of them are, some of their actual politicians are idiots. But a lot of these guys are careful. They're prudent. They know what they want. And in many ways, they want it more than we do. Well, this is what I'm saying. We have to be generalization of mindset.

If we can admit and say and believe that it's taken 60 years or something to get here, they've been in charge of a very long time. We're not going to win this with one presidency or at minimum one year. It's going to take a very long time to win this game. It's why raising kids, having kids is the most important thing we can do. Phil's doing a great job. He's not all the game, Tim. Let's jump to this story. Ladies and gentlemen, it is a holiday.

It's January 6th. And the Democrats are holding a candlelight vigil. I kid you not. I don't understand it. This is not a joke. Democratic lawmakers on the fifth anniversary of January 6th attack on U.S. Capitol. Why are they holding candles? Ashley Bennett.

But you know that's not really. Why? We went out the Senate door, made a right turn, opened another door, and we were within 20 feet of those rioters, of those insurrectionists. One of them looked at me and said, there he is. Get him. of my brave police officers led by Mike Blazinski I wasn't hurt

that was actually me I was asking for grilling tips let us never mince words about what happening in those who try to lie about it those who try to make up myths about it I was not interested in listening to whatever he's talking about let's talk about a myth that's still perpetuate

I have to correct people in real time who are very high level influencers, conservative influencers, I didn't steal the lectern. I'm still having it up five years from now. I just got my first community note this year. People still believe I actually took that thing home. The community note saying you didn't? Yes. You can ask Grock now. Rock now says I moved it. Grog said I moved. It didn't take it. Right.

Which is great. You picked it up and put it down. Yeah. Relocation. Yep. Just unlicensed furniture moving. Via Gettys, you know, guys. This video of Chuck Schumer, I walked out the door and he said, there he is. Get him. I'm just, I'm so over it. I'm just I'm completely over it.

I don't care about any of this. It is a bunch of fake people saying fake shit, nonstop all the time. I, you know, over the holiday break, I talk to a lot of people who have expressing that it's just the same story every day that nothing's changing. I'm not going to be wrong. Trump has done some stuff, but it feels like it's just, you know, again, with all the the respect to Dan Bongino, it's disappointing. If not Dan, then, who we thought he was going to go in. And then he comes out and he's like, yeah, nothing, we can't do anything. Nothing to see here. Like, I've seen killed himself. So everybody's just continually disappointed. Nothing ever happens.

Right. Don't get me wrong. Like a lot of happenings have happened in the past couple of months. And over the past year, there's been a lot happening. But in the political space, the day to day, it is mind-numbing to listen to the Democrats. A candlelight vigil, it's been five years. We know you're lying. Why are we bothering with this? I don't get it. Why are these people still in office? What is happening?

Yeah. I mean, to some degree, like, it's kind of a good thing of politics gets boring. Like, C-SPAN should be boring to watch. Like, that's historically how politics operated is for wonks. They had like a slur. We called them wonks because it's like, you guys are nerds. And, you know, if things go well with the Trump administration,

I mean, if this trajectory continues and then into potentially advanced presidency, hopefully politics is back to just being like a snooze fest. And people can go back to. to their lives. I mean, that's been the big issue. That's been the big issue. That's been the big issue with why we're seeing, like, so much slop in the political zeitguise is because it's not boring. And it's like, again, what we were talking about earlier, it's like, no, we're talking about life and death. We're talking about the country we're going to leave to our kids, these sorts of things. Like, we should take this a little bit more seriously. People, but people love the sensational. They love that. So it's like, maybe like returning to boring. I know it's bad for us, bad for business, but like there's something to do that. But the only thing about that, though, is it was, it's a double-ed source. It's a double-ed source. right and and it really kind of goes to your point earlier it's always going to be a football kick down further and further and further if we go back to that it's going to lead to what has got us in the situation that we're in in the first place oh you just vote republican down the ticket you have no idea or democrat down the ticket you have no idea what's going on you couldn't even

name your congressman or woman you have no idea what's happening and then that leads to the decades of decades of decades of decades of corruption that we're now trying to fight against. So what I said, we did a very bad job as talking heads, influencers, creators, whatever you want to call us. We did a really bad job, myself included, of the American people understanding that one election is not going to make America utopia. It's not going to happen. You're talking about at least 50 years of just...

horrible, horrific corruption all day, every day. But with everyone being interested in what's going on and everybody getting to the bottom of what's happening, eventually you're going to get to this point where nobody can do it well enough. Right. And then the question goes, well, what happens then? What happens with all of the people, all of America, or enough of them, at least, that are like no one's going to do what we need to do.

Does that lead to government overthrow? What is that? Where does that lead? And so the truth is we really, what we're all debating right now and where the American people found themselves and why you feel this thing going on that you don't really know what you're feeling is we're in the middle of both of those spectrums right this second.

Right. Well, but either side of those spectrums, either way, you're going to get gridlocked because it's like A, right. A, everyone's asleep at the wheel. Something has to give. Yeah. Something has to give at some point. And that's why the Trump, like the Trump,

the Trump, the MAGA movement has been really like a veil lifted in many ways because like you had the 90s like Francis Fukuyama coming out and saying like we've reached the end of history like social democracy social liberalism is the final stage of government like we're not going to progress past this this is natural conclusion of political philosophy where at the last man these sorts of things and I think everyone kind of subliminally thought that I think everyone like across the west was like yeah that's probably correct and then Brexit happens and then Trump happens everyone sticks backs and goes, oh, no, no, no, no, history is still unfolding. And then it's been dramatic.

I mean, these last eight years have been, like, dramatic. I mean, our grandchildren are going to read about this in the history books. But it's gotten to the point now where everyone has takes, everyone has a political philosophy, everyone has different varying goals. And now that the big tent, because we're not in an election cycle, is kind of unraveling a little bit, we're going to see now. Again, gridlock. We have gridlock again.

Well, I somewhat agree with you, but we said grandchildren, you mean more like AI, robot facsimile grandchildren. Where no one's having kids. Actually, you know, it does seem like people are having kids like crazy right now. At least in our sphere. And maybe because we're addressing it and saying like, the daycares are full. You have 12? The daycares are full. Have you seen the, have you seen the demographic projections in Pennsylvania?

Is it by the end of the century? All Muslim? No, no, no. By the end of the century, 20% of Pennsylvania, no, by 2100, 20% of Pennsylvania will be Amish. So like, yeah, you're going to have this situation. Again, Brooklyn, by like 20... There's like a lot of projections by 2070 at this trajectory. Things could change.

Brooklyn will be as red as Alabama because the Hasidics have such a high birth rate. So you know, we're going to go to a world where it's like a lot of people are going to self-filter out of the like the gene pool. And these uber religious communities are going to like dominate. That's why the Democrats want the immigration so much. That's part of it. Yeah. But even the immigrants, like look at look across the world. Birth rates are falling even in the third world.

And A, that's blowing up all over economic models. But B, you're going to have the situation where in Pennsylvania. like you're going to play ball with the Amish. We kind of saw that in the last election. I mean, the Amish did put their thumb on the scales and in many ways led to Trump's victory. Thank you, Scott Pressler. Yes, and that's going to continue. Like there's the timeline that we're entering makes Fukuyama look like the biggest idiot on planet Earth. Because it's like there's so many moving parts now, no disrespect to Fugiaama.

But there's so many moving parts now that it's like you have to start considering these like really sensational things because they're real. They're here. Remember what was that story about like the guy at the patent office in the 1890s said everything that can be invented has been invented. Do you remember that? What was that all about? I don't know who said that, but that's obvious. Yeah.

What a swing and a miss. Oh, were they called World War I, the Great War? The War and all wars. That's something that happens, you know, in history regularly. People think, oh, well, this is it. We're at the apex of human civilization. We're at the apex of whatever topics, whatever expert thinks that they have expertise on. And then, you know, something happens.

and there's a massive change. It is apocryphal. This is Charles Holland Duel, and they said that he's widely known for a statement that he purportedly made during his time as U.S. Commissioner of Patents. Everything that can be invented has been invented. However, it's been debunked as apocryphal by librarian Samuel Sass, who traced the quote back to a 1981 book called The Book of Facts and Falacies.

Okay, well, okay, we'll correct the record for this guy. Yeah. He never said that stupid thing. So for most people, my kids invent new ways to break things all the time. I'm shocked on, yeah, they do invent new ways to break things all the time. At some point, they just stare at the jar, it levitates, and then shatters. I'm on my third toilet seat upstairs in their bathroom, and I have no idea what is going on. And they have a pretty clean diet, so I'm not sure what accounts for.

To be fair, to, like, to steal man the idea that this was, like, the end of politics, is if you look at the post-war consensus, that was pretty rigid. Like, it did feel like that's not going anywhere. It did, in many ways, feel like, what are we going to do? We're going to have Mitt Romney versus Obama for the rest of our lives. And Trump, the brick through the window, is legitimately the most consequential. That right down the escalator is the most consequential moment. And probably in our lifetimes is going to be in our lifetime.

You know, I will say this, like, I think we had this political decade. If you go back to like, and it's caused by the economic collapse, which shocked a lot of people, they began asking why it was they couldn't afford to live anymore. Millennials started asking why they couldn't afford to live, have families by houses, Gen Z's in a similar spot. But I think Gen Z is very nihilistic. So whereas millennials became activists, Gen Z is like, y'all are stupid, who cares?

And they're largely just like detaching. And man, you look at the current trends among Gen Z and what people are starting to focus, sports betting. Yeah. I think Gen Z is basically just like, we literally don't care anymore. So, so, you know, my point is like, I remember when I first started making content during Occupy Wall Street,

there was this bubbling up of politics in the main source. stream people were interested in it but i remember when i was younger nobody cared i sure there was protests and stuff but this was not the popular thing that everyone was focused on i think we're probably in the back end of this uh of this this political swing and i'm wondering if the next few years politics becomes esoteric just i don't know droll garbage that most people don't care about and uh political channels become substantially smaller with less money yeah i i i I think Zoomers, like 90% of Zoomers ballpark are either nihilist or political extremists. Like that's just the reality situation.

And I mean, that's just anecdotes. But I think this is reflected in bullying. I think with George Floyd riots, a lot of us expected, man, people are going to lose their minds. And like you said, some of these gens are split between extremists and nihilists. But I think for a lot of people, they're going to be like, yeah, I don't care. If you grew up at a time where you saw all of these crises and all these political conflicts and Trump and impeachment and Burisma and all these things, and then nothing happened. and you've got these Gen Z people saying nothing ever happens

why are they going to turn the TV on and pay attention? Why are they going to turn out a podcast and pay attention? They're going to go sports bet. Well, yeah, the only time they're going to turn on the TV and pay attention is when they see things like the inflation that we've seen. Like, it turns into, I don't think so. Well, it turns into a kitchen table issues like,

because every, they don't own a kitchen table. Well, they might not, they can't pay for their, they can't make their Klarna payments and they're going to be like, oh, you know. But they couldn't, from the get goes my point. For millennials, we, like, I'm in my 20s and everything's, going bad, but I was already in a bad spot as it was.

Gen X largely felt this much more than everyone else. Boomers survived much better. But for Gen Z, that was born into a world of nothing. Yeah, they can't feel lost they've never experienced having. Exactly. So they grow up hearing about all these problems in politics and they're like, maybe there's a way to deal with this. I hear what you're saying.

But finally, they're like 25 and they're going, bro, you've been saying the same thing for 15 years. Okay, I'm going to go bet on the Steelers game. Yeah. You want to change and break the cycle. arrest anyone on that screen. Anyone. Anyone.

Show me that it's real. Show me that the reason I vote up is because this is real. Show me the reason I went to prison is because I was right. Show me that America is still worth saving. But this is why arrest anyone of them.

Yeah. I understand that. I mean, it's cash too, but Dan's leaving now and they're making fun of them. I think the reality is you can't stop the machine. I said this of Obama.

I said this of every president. I've been saying it for decades. You get elected. You say, when I get in office, I'm going to do this thing. You get in. and then you can't for a million and one reasons. And it's not always that there's an evil deep state cabal that's like, well, kill you

if you do. It's like you get in office and you say, okay, guys, I want to deal with this border crisis. And they go, well, here's the thing. If we don't have the illegal immigrants, look at all these areas of the country where population decline is setting in and we don't have low-scale labor to replace the young people who are aging out. That's the Democrat worldview. Trump, the reason they hate him is because he goes, huh, I don't know. care shut the border down and they're like but don't you understand you're knocking pegs out from the

machine he's like i don't care we can't keep doing the same thing and that's why people liked what trump was doing but my what basically what i'm saying as it pertains to dan bongino my assumption would be he goes in and says i want to do something here you know not you know what i genuinely think happened the reason the absin list doesn't come out is because saudis are on it and trump's trump said guys don't screw up the petro dollar negotiations i think the epstein files come out we're we're going to lose this deal China's going to win. I think it all comes down to money. It all comes down to money. I mean, if we assume the, okay, we can play a list some names on the list, right? And let's say it's a couple of, you know, big CEOs of publicly traded companies. You start arresting anfoil those people. You will crash

markets. They employ hundreds of thousands of people. I think everything comes down to that. The reason they can't share is because it would destabilize our entire economy. And so you're told, and I got to hypothetical, I don't know for sure, but Dan Bongino, a guy like him, he gets in and he goes, we got to put this list out and they go see these three guys in the list if they get arrested we're going to lose an oil contract we're going to lose an oil pipeline and we're going to see a 17% collapse of the US stock market because this person holds X amount of you know equities with black rock and this and then it's like crap and so for a lot of people they've said to us I don't care what the ramifications are I don't care if these economy tanks because of it I don't care if it starts a war do it

And I'm not saying that's wrong. I get it. Don't protect these people and let them get away with it. But what happens when Donald Trump personally says to you, I will not be the president that watches the union collapse. Please don't do this. Again, not saying this is actually what happened, but I'm saying it's a hypothetical of how the machine works. What do you do when you say to everybody, I'm going to expose the Epstein list? You get in.

And then the president, who you know and trust says, here's what will happen if you do. And then he hands you the button and says, you're allowed to press it if you want. just know here's all the collateral damage the U.S. will face because of it. Do you press the button? I know a lot of people would say yes. A lot of people would say no. I'm not saying what you should or shouldn't do. I'm pointing out these are the scenarios faced by people who try and get into politics.

The world is not so simple and cut and dry. No, it's not. It is not so easy to just say we shouldn't like people think that the Venezuela move against Maduro was an easy yes or no. No, it wasn't. I say I'm lukewarm on. It's the same thing as Iraq and Afghanistan. That was a debacle for sure. mistakes were made horrible mistakes. But the people were just like, the U.S. should never, for any

reason, intervene in either country. I'm like, that's an absolutism. It's retarded. Yeah, that's ridiculous. There are circumstances that will arise. Sometimes you do. We typically want to avoid it. That's why I say I'm lukewarm on it. If like with the Iran thing, I said, no, we should not be bombing Iran. You will destabilize this region. And we narrowly escaped. And I say, okay, we got out of that one. I'm not a band of this stuff because the unknowns. But I think you can, uh, you can, you can reduce it down to a more personal experience so the average person can better understand, right? And I described it the other day like your neighbor is selling drugs. Do you think, you know, let's say your neighbor is selling pot. Uh, or no, let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's

party every night. Lots of booze. People are drunk. I don't mind if people are drinking and getting drunk and having parties. I'm not the party police. I'm not going to shut people down and want to have a good time. Now there's beer cans all over the lawn. There's spreading out in the street in front of my house. I got to go clean these things up. Okay, well, I'm going to go to my neighbor's house and I'm knocking the door and be like, hey, guy, look, like the beer. He's, hey, man, I'm not on your property. It's not my problem. It's your problem. You deal with it. At a certain point, it's not so simple to just say, I don't want to infringe on someone else's right to drink. At a certain point, there's an infringement that must

be remedied. Will you take action to benefit yourself over someone who is directly or indirectly aggressing upon you? Are you going to just let it keep happening? It's not always so easy. But I think the challenging issue that most people don't want to recognize is, let's try this. Let me try this scenario for you guys. I want to play this morality game.

Mr. Lectern, man, do you work anywhere right now? What are you working on? I just finished my book and I am running a race for county commissioner in Manatee County. You can go to my website and sign up for email list. It is vote Adam Johnson.com. I think it's probably a hard, it's probably hard to do a hypothetical with people who are clearly running their own businesses or running for office. But the hypothetical I want to present is you discover that you're bought, you work for a great company. It's hypothetical.

You work for a company and you're in computer sales. And you discover that your boss has been embezzling, you know, money from the company. I blackmail him. If you out him for doing this, you will lose your job. and your company closes, you have no guarantee you have money to feed your children. Do you expose the manager who's embezzling funds? No, I'd have to make sure I have another job secure first, because I wouldn't want to work with someone who works like that.

There's a lot of questions in morality like if you had a document that would expose a billionaire for being a pedophile, and then as you're like, I'm going to publish this, a man slides a picture of your daughter through a sniper through a scope saying the moment you press this button she dies. Do you do you publish the document? Nope. I love my children. These are the challenges that people act like don't exist, right? Is it the right thing to do to expose a corrupt manager who's stealing money from the company? Well, the blowback could destroy the company and you'll be out of work and you don't know how you'll get a paycheck to feed your kids. I think a lot of people are going to be that I wouldn't expose him. So you'd let a guy steal.

steal money, a fraud story, criminal, rip off a company. Well, I don't want my kids to go hungry. I get these comments all the time on this show. I am not telling anybody what is right or what is wrong. It is a very serious challenge for people. You want to get super hypothetical. Sure, Dan Bondino goes, I got the Epstein list. I'm going to publish it.

And then a guy in a suit says, here's a picture of your daughter through a scope. Right? I'm not saying that literally happened, but what do you do in geopolitics in this circumstances? Well, and then the other like outside of hypotheticals, the other real. realities of the American people is I've said this on my show all the time. We've talked about states that are lost causes. We've talked about triaging, you know, getting out of certain states and going fortifying actual states that are winnable and then we never have to worry about things again.

And people will tell me, well, Graham, I can't just move. Like, it's not that simple. But you want to publish a list that hypothetically. could collapse the entire American system, a government economic system and things like that. You're fine with that. But how are you going to have a job? How are you going to do this? If that happens.

We should do that. You know, we got to do videos like this. We should totally do this video. We should do videos where we bring people in for like, you know, like a social experiment. And we, you know, we give them a button. And it's like, if you press this button, you'll receive $1,000. And we will mercilessly beat this puppy. You know, like, I'm kidding.

They'd have hit the button before you finish what you were saying. He will press that button. He will absolutely press that button. We keep actually sampling for Haitians and they're just spam. And then they're like, do I get to eat the dog after it's 10 guys? No, don't do that way, no. But, you know, it would be interesting to put people in situations where it's a rock and a hard place. But, you know, it shouldn't be with direct benefit to themselves.

It would be like, there is a, you know, there is a man right now. He's a known criminal and he's beaten and raped women. and you can release this information, it will expose him and he will go to prison. It will also, these 10 people work for his company will lose their jobs and their families will go without food. Like, how do you decide? And I think most people are going to be like expose him. You know what I mean? It's almost like a trolley problem.

Yeah. These things exist in every facet of government and every industry. But we're dealing with this one-dimensional comic book-esque political space. where people are like, if it is not zero sum, I'm mad at you, you're a bad guy. Oh, rhetoric is very easy. You can go online. You can post things. The common one I've always heard is if we can't be a nation that arrests pedophiles, we don't deserve to be a nation. And it's a great sentiment. And I believe in that sentiment, I really do. If we're protecting pedophiles, that's not good for us. But what can we actually do about it? I'm just a guy, but talk about it, right? And I think

the reason where a lot of people are mad at cash, mad at Bondi, mad at Dan, is because they are the people we sent to go do these things. But it can't just be on one person that takes all their responsibility for. I understand it's their job. But it's also our job to remain to stay to stay vocal to keep talking about these things. You know, I don't believe anybody. I'm sorry. Like, I know there are some people who stand true. And if you're out there, you know who you are. But let's be real. If the release of the Epstein documents, and I'm not saying, this is absolute because I know the responsibility is going to be like, but it's not true to him. No, I'm saying hypothetically. if the release of the Epstein documents did implicate enough prominent people from foreign governments to corporations

that the U.S. economy would destabilize knocking us down 80 percent. Would you release the documents? I guarantee you most people going to like, of course I would. Then actually offer them up what that means. You'll lose your home. You'll have no food. Milk will cost $50. Health care is gone. Health care is gone. People are going to be like, no, I won't do it. because I hear it all the time from people that they would rather, like we've had these conversations on the show before, and like we did polls where people are like, I'll put it like this.

You can expose all of the Epstein pedophiles. Easily done. Let's take it to the extreme end. You have the file in your hands. You can choose to, you know, a digital file. You can press go and the internet, everyone will have it. Your daughter will die at the same time. Will you do it?

No. No. Nobody would. No. Nobody would. And I'm not saying that's the reality. I'm giving you an extreme hypothetical. The point is, if it was something as simple as Trump says, our economy is going to take a 20% hit, people will die.

Then Dan Banjino is going to be like, I can't do anything about it. Is he going to be the guy who pulls a trigger and goes on in history is the one who caused, you know, deaths because he was like these people. And I'm sure what happens behind the scenes is someone like Trump says, do you really want to see the U.S. economy collapse? for these 15 assholes. And people are going to be like, no. So who's really going to press that button? The truth is all these people screaming, they would. I doubt they would.

No. I might. Well, I've done some crazy things. I'm crazy. I might be like, you know, look, that's why I said. The people who are true to it, they're out there. They know who they are. They're like, I don't care.

I'll figure it out. I lean in that direction. But I'm not going to pretend to be some like moralist guy who's better than everybody who would actually do it. You know, if it came down to it and the president came to me and said, Tim, I'm going to give you the choice. You could press the button. Here's all the bad things that are going to happen.

Do you want it to be on you? I probably say no, too. You press that button. There will be a significant amount more of children who suffer than what happened on the island. Well, that and the very people who want you to release that information or press that button will then turn on you and probably kill you because you destroy their entire lives in the process. Well, make up a reason. A lot of people will be like, you didn't have to do it that way. No one yet, but you did it wrong.

Did you see the Bongino statistics what he did of the FBI? They arrested thousands of pedophiles. And no one's celebrating that. So I don't really think it's about the pedophiles. I think it's about we want to see people in power that they are touchable, that we can get to them. That's what it's about. Because it's about the children. They should be consistent then.

We've arrested pedophiles, thousands of them. You just want to see people of power be arrested. Just the election of Donald Trump meant that the trafficking of children across the southern border stopped. You know, closing the border or at least it's significantly decreased, you know? absolutely so to say that that Donald Trump being the president isn't you know what are we getting out of it nothing's happening blah blah blah I mean the border's closed we don't have we had a net or we had a decline in a number of people that are in the in the country because of deportation negative migration yeah net negative migration so like I understand people being frustrated because they're not seeing the results immediately and they're not getting what they want fast enough this is but to say that nothing happened that's just not true I think the chat right now is actually hilarious in that it's divided between people who say they would actually kill their daughters to publish the Epstein list and others saying, it's disgusting, you would consider killing your daughter to publish the Epstein list. Like, I know it's an extreme end, but this is the reality of politics is that there's not, it's not,

yes, no, it's not zero sum. It's not, I can just do it. There's no, there's no ramifications. The idea that Trump got into office and then decided to become evil is is laughable. Trump is Trump. The idea that Dan Bongino dedicated his life to calling out all this evil, walked through a door and instantly just was transformed to a Sith lord. It's just not correct. Something is going on. We don't understand. And it's a rock and a hard place.

Everybody who lives on the outside, one of the challenges in being in politics and being in culture is like this kind of space is that most people who watch are not involved. I'm not saying everybody, those who are, you know who you are and you're going through the fight. But a lot of people just passively watch and they don't have to actually be the one who pulls the trigger. Correct. That's why I always give responsibility. back to veterans because I met a veteran recently

he said he's a big fan and he appreciates what I do and I was like, I appreciate what you do, man. I'm like, I complain on the internet. The shit that, you know, our brave men and women have to do and do for us, most people don't want to talk about or know about and they don't have to. So we often rag on liberals

who act all high and mighty not realizing what it takes to make America wealthy and successful. And there's dark evil shit this country does so that we can have cheap computers. Yeah. The lines that or the rant that Jack Nicholson did in a few good men was actually true. Yeah.

Even though he was the bad guy and whatnot, like, it's actually true that like, you know, brave men or, you know, brave men stand ready to do violent, visit violence on bad people so you can sleep soundly in your bed. And it's the same thing we do to socialists where we're like, how can you be a socialist who's an iPhone? It's the same thing. It's like, I am strongly against child exploitation. And then they're wearing Nikes and they're having a cup of Nestle coffee every morning. It's like, it's like, no, I'm critiquing the argument about socialists. Like you're operating in a system that is built on like these sorts of really gross stuff. No one wants to see, you know, how the sausage is made.

Yeah, exactly. I say that. I just have that argument that people say, oh, you know, these kids are working for no money or dirt, you know, a dollar a day or whatever. And it's like, well, you know, a lot of times the option. is sexual solicitation. The world is really, Trump said it himself, it's a nasty, angry place. It's like, yeah, you got to make tough decisions. Psychology says that, right?

So we feel the effect of one person dying more than a thousand people dying because we cannot wrap our heads around a thousand people that's dying at the same time or a million people die at the same time, right? So we're very passionate about when we say like that one person, they're suffering, right? So when we see the girl who was murdered on the bus by the black guy. I mean, that broke news ever. We see Daniel Payne. It's very easy to see it one time.

that stuff happens all the time thousands of times a day and around the world I mean it happens millions of times a day we see one thing we're very passionate about it yeah you get an Instagram real of like you know someone dying like a hurricane it's this horrible thing and you really feel emotional and then you know like Bangladesh like a thousand die in a mudslide and you're like oh well that's why we care about Epstein so much more

than you know the other child trafficking is happening all over the world that we're obviously complicit into at some level I think the reality of politics geopolitics the world and everything is that when it comes down to it 99% of people would never sacrifice their friends, their families, and their security for the collective. The reason why it works on the left is they don't have friends, family, or kids. And the right does. And that's why the right usually gets beaten down. Because when it comes down to it, it's very easy for a crackpot leftist to shoot at your studio and threaten the life of your family and then put us

into a position where we're like, we don't want to bring risk to our family. But these leftists don't have families themselves. So they don't face the same risk. And then we're between the rock and a hard place of do we continually expose ourselves to a degenerate faction of evil scumbags who don't face the same remit like the same fears the same threats yeah most people in policy like you you you you look at some of the like the things that are happening around the world and and you ask yourself why it is that congress is a bunch of corrupt scumbags or doing insider trading it's because nobody wants to say to risk their families to stop someone else.

To put it simply, Nancy Pelosi should be in prison for insider trading, inside her trading. But she's got the power to subpoena you and put you in prison, like the J6 committee did to like Bannon and Peter Navarro and that. And so you're sitting there, depending on your age, especially, with your young kids and your wife, and you're like, if I try to fight this evil person,

she will cause harm, not just to me, but my family. And the thing that we've brought up is that the founding fathers made that choice. They sacrificed blood, treasure, and family. Some of their, one guy's wife was kidnapped. One guy has kid, kid. And one guy's kid betrayed him. And there are real questions about when people are willing to make those choices. For the most part, right now in this country, nobody wants to go head to head against these corrupt forces in government.

Because these corrupt forces in government will arrest you and your lawyers. They will make up fake crimes about you. They will go on TV and accuse you of working for rights. Russia or some other psychotic nonsense, they will lie and claim that you've abused women or that you stole a lectern you didn't steal. Yeah, that happens. And I would be remiss if I didn't mention that January 6th, there were about 1,600 people that were willing to risk their freedom to speak up and say our country's being stolen from us.

So I do think those people do exist. I think the entire reason they're still doing this is to remind you, we will come after you if you ever do this again. That's the point. In the future, exactly. Why are Democrats having a candlelight vigil to say to anybody who would, make the choice to risk everything, their family, blood treasure or otherwise, they're going to destroy you and everyone around you. It is the kill you and three generations of your family

threat. I get that question all the time. Would I do it again? Now it's been five years later. And I say at this point, absolutely yes. I think it woke a lot of people up across the couple years of them hunting us down. What did you really do? I walked around maliciously. That's the point. It's like you didn't wage war. You walked into a room. through the velvet ropes and everybody was seemingly on a tour with cops taking selfies with people and you picked up a lectern and waved and put it down. It's true. To be fair,

you weren't like Braveheart, you know, clanking your sword and being like, they can never take our freedom. I mean, it's like throwing tea over a boat, you know. You know, without all due respect, it was less than that. I know. I should have taken it home. I should have done something different. There were rioters that were there that committed crimes and all that stuff. But it's laughably insane the lengths they went to

to destroy the lives of people who did barely anything. People who walked into an open door and took a selfie with a cop and then got a year in jail because of it. Yeah, they made an example. That's all they're trying to do. I mean, that's why you see following the Charlie Kirk assassination, you sit the back and you say,

okay, I'm an ethical person. How could someone even possibly conjure up the thought to mock Charlie Kirk after his death, these sorts of things? It's like, that's the point. They want to say what Charlie Kirk was doing was viable. It was a threat to the system, so to speak. Don't ever try that again.

or you'll be next. That was the point of that. And that's why they put the pictures up everywhere. That's why they do the vigils. They want to remind you like, hey, you try that. You want to end up like him? Oh, you want to end up like him? Okay. Here's a picture. There. That's going to be you. That's going to be your father. It's going to be your husband. It's funny because, you know, I'm just talking to this liberal guy who's always arguing with me. And I said, you know, we're not going to be at the studio anymore because of the shooting. And I said, look how easy it is. All liberals have to do is murder a few conservatives, then take some shots at me and they can shut us, shut us up, right? And that's, that, that, This part of what I'm sick of with these, with the left, you know, the millennial woes tweet that basically exemplifies the culture war.

Leftists pretending like they don't understand things to make discourse impossible. There is no reality where these progressive personalities are unaware that as conservatives and moderate right-leaning individuals that are facing the real threat of death. Someone just tried breaking into J.D. Vance's home with a hammer, smashing out his windows. This isn't happening to the left. Correct. They just lie and pretend it is. the lion pretended is the way that they treat themselves as victims, the way that they pad the numbers whenever it comes to how many politically motivated attacks are performed by the left versus the right.

They've been basically controlling the narrative for so long that your average person believes them. And the more we try to get the word out, the more pushback you get. Yeah, well, they're perpetually in rebellion and revolution. They have a revolutionary mindset. And so it's like you always have to keep throwing meat into the grinder to keep the revolution going. If they, at the left ever just, they'll never actually come to a point where they're like, all right, I think we've won. Let's all sit back and reap the rewards. They're perpetually in a revolutionary mindset because they, again, perceive themselves as transgress.

They perceive themselves as victims. Like they're, and they have their, they're bogeyman, like straight white men. Like that's that they still perceive as running every echelon of society, even though like, you know, like that compact. Mac article, like completely lies out. Like, no, it's actually the opposite. Yeah, we do. Our microaggressions, like, we open doors for ladies.

We're just the worst. We put our shopping carts back. It's horrible. There's a comment here that I think makes a good example of, like, the destabilization we're facing. And it's a small rabid monkey says, I mean, you are a bit of a coward, Tim. That I think that comment really does exemplify why we lose in the long run and why we've, you know,

we've had tremendous victories. I do think there's some optimism to look forward. to right now. It's tough. It's tough not to be blackpilled. But imagine, and again, I'll stress too, like this could be a bot. It could be a liberal masquerading as someone on the right, trying to destabilize things. I'll give you, I'll give you an example of like why I'm singling this one out. We had father Ripperger on the culture war. And I talked about, I asked him. He's talking about demonic possession, demonic obsession, which is where the demons influencing you, not as opposed to being within you. And he said, when people, he said, when people, he's talking about, he's

people are effectively advocating for things that are wrong or bad. They're being influenced. We were, uh, I had Seamus Coglin on. And, uh, Seamus brings this up as well as G prime, uh, 85. I recommend you guys follow G prime. He's an amazing artist. And, uh, conservatives insult artists, comedians, gamers. Uh, they insult me for skateboarding. And I asked the father if that was demonic. And he said, yes. The reason why, you. is regular people live in these spaces and you have to fish where the fish are. If there are people attacking you to try and get you to stop doing good work, it's demonic. If you're an artist like Seamus Coglin or G Prime and you're trying to bring comedy to Americans that expresses and explains a conservative

worldview in a funny way that makes them come into the house. If people then try to stop that work from happening, it's demonic. That's what he was saying that. someone like Seamus who's a devout Catholic who makes funny videos, this is entertaining to regular people and it will open the door for them to come into his worldview, deeply religious devout. And then he's surrounded by conservatives screaming at him to stop because he's childish and it's for babies and he's wasting his time and wasting his life. Right. That's demonic. So for these people, I would say two things. One, this could just be a liberal trying to antagonize me. It's troll. It's fake. But there are many conservatives who do this.

sit in their houses, don't engage in the culture war, aren't getting shot at, and then smugly sit there and insult you for doing it, seemingly only to try and get you to stop. Because again, the reason why I say it could be a liberal. Because now I'm faced with two distinct scenarios from both sides. Death threats and getting shot at, which is a risk to me, my family that I don't want to deal with. And conservatives insulting me over it. Why would I fight for you? Why would I risk getting shot at? shot at for you sitting at home doing nothing insulting me. Again, I stress probably a liberal and I largely ignore these things. But when you're looking at prominent conservative personalities that have been on this show that are stabbing me in the back, lying about me because they're more concerned

with Ziju's than having real conversations. My question is, why would I risk getting shot for you? I know for me I've not been shot at, but the death threats, I mean, I still get those on a very regular basis. For me, it's because I have convictions and because I'm not someone who just sit by and watch things happen. I have children and their futures are important to me. It's why I'm doing things like getting involved locally with my community and running for office there. And that's why I think local is really the key. You know, the fault here comes to a nation scale thing where you're fighting for people you don't know who hate you, right? Not everybody, but many people. I'd argue that I have sometimes more fans than haters, that people who are

hate me, don't even know who I am, they don't follow the show. So like, when we, when we go out, we go places, we never run into anybody who's actually like, I hate you because they don't know. The people who don't like me, don't even know what I look like. But there is a challenge, again, to go back to like the Dan by Gino conversation of here's a guy who literally sacrificed everything to try and do it. And when he couldn't do it, they insult him and, and they're trying to burn him to the ground. And I'm just like, you can, you can, you can be disappointed in the guy. And you can say, you failed that's fine but it's weird to me that they're acting like Dan's evil

yeah I genuinely feel bad for him I don't I mean he would not leave his podcast he would not leave a nice comfortable life to go into a place to not do what he said he was going to do so he was so what loses reputation when he goes back none of that makes sense it's not rational it doesn't make sense at all well and it's from the same people that look what Dan had to give up to go

I know what I had to give up to go to the Pentagon, you're not allowed to make any money outside of what you're getting paid from the federal government, which is not a lot. It's expensive in D.C. They don't pay you a lot. You get max taxes pulled out across the board. These same people that are mad at Dan Bongino or me or whoever it is, again, they're the same people look what Dan gave up millions and millions of dollars to come out and be ridiculed by people back to my earlier comment that won't even move out of horrific cities where their families are not safe because they're worried about their paycheck of two grand every paycheck or something like that you're the same people that are you would not do what Dan Bongino did yeah and so are you really

mad at Dan Bonjino or are you mad because now you see that it's worse than you thought it was. And I'll stress this too because I would say ignore the direct comments on Dan Bongino, you, the threats against yourself, me, but look at the movement on the right right now and what the right is doing. And the question I have is, is the right something worth fighting for? And if there is a large faction of prominent individuals who are either degenerate evil scum or cowardly backing degenerate evil scum, I have to ask,

It's not about one person insulting me. It's a question of what the movement is and what it would do should it succeed. Now, I know you made the point you have convictions and you're fighting those you want a better future for your kids. Completely agree. The question then is, is the time and energy I'm spending doing this and the risks accrued actually going to be a net benefit for my kids? I don't believe that if the right moves in the direction of Candace Owens, it will be something worth preserving or making happen in the future. and thus I would oppose it and fight against it, which is why I've criticized her. And again, it's not about her.

It's about what she represents. And it's about people like Megan Kelly who are continually backing her and, you know, lining up in her space. It's about people like Matt Strickland to put a knife in my back because he wants to cozy up to her. It's about the people that know she's lying, but don't actually care about what the future is. So when I see these trends and these movements among these individuals that, again, Candace literally used the same security as Charlie Kirk.

It's an easily provable fact. It's so patently obvious. She worked for Turning Point. You don't even need to say anything beyond that. And she's lying about it. But people don't care because she has views. And they're going to follow that. Is that group of people something we want to help?

If the right wins, is she and the people around her going to benefit from it? We don't want that. Well, then the question is what is the right actually fighting for? Yeah. Because if prominent individuals like, you know, Megan Kelly is a great example. She's repeatedly just been demure to Candace and like refuse. to just say like literally Candice is making shit up and lying.

Many people have come out and called around on it. But again, there's a few other people that I'm not going to name because we have no public beef, but people have been on the show who have lost their fucking minds and are no longer talking about populist issues or foreign wars. They're screaming about Israel 24-7. I'm not here to fight for those people.

So if I'm getting shot at and I've got psychotic, you know, retards like, you know, in Candace's fear. And then you've got cowards unwilling to stand up to her do I really want to risk things for that future? No, then what do you do? We got to figure out what we are fighting for and who we are fighting for. And the challenge I see now is the right is fracturing and the left is fractured. Not a single Democrat that might correctly call out something Trump has done or these crackpot, you know, conservatives is worth defending because they defend child sex

changes all the same. Yeah. But I'm not going to defend the Jews people who live in a retard world either. So then who is our community and what is the future going to look like? Honestly, I have no idea. In the meantime, do I want to get shot at not knowing what I'm fighting for? Honestly, it doesn't seem like it makes sense. Yeah. It's not sufficient to just be the opposition. I mean, that was the problem with the Republican Party for, again, 60, 70 years is they're just primarily the opposition party.

They were just slow down what the Democrats were trying to do and manage the decline. And like if you're in politics, your entire job, whether you're in media or like, you know, actually in elected office, Your entire job is you have a set of ideas or a set of, you know, a vision for how you want America to be. And then you have to identify the political vehicles that are viable to bring forth this vision. And yeah, like Tim's saying, we're kind of entering this period where engines or vehicles that are not viable are now starting to lead the packet. And in some regards, and it's just you sit back and you go, okay, this is a little frustrating. I've heard from so many people in politics where they say, Tim, just get your bag. and if you look at a lot of the prominent personalities,

it's very clear that they're just trying to get their bag. Yeah. And so it's just like, it's kind of disheartening. It's like, were we actually fighting for a better country or were we all just trying to get a bag? And you've got two worlds. You've got the Democrats who are propped up. I should say Democrat personalities, these podcasters, that say obviously, post obvious lies, David Packman, I'll say his name a million times, scumbag.

he'll post things that are obviously not true because it gets clicks. Brian Tyler Cohen, every video he's posing is a picture of Trump. Get your bag. And now you've got people on the right that are just like, I don't know much about much, but Candace is getting views. So I'm going to defend whatever she's saying, even though it's clearly bullshit. Well, to Graham's point, I think you nail on the head of this.

You make more money if you lose the midterms as a conservative pundit. Correct. That's one million percent. 100%. And so I think that's probably the driving reason why they are trying to tank the maga party, which is why midterms are so important. Guys, listen, it takes longer than a year or two fix what has gone on. Even just the past four years, Biden administration, they've had a lot of time to mess some things up. It's going to take some time to unwind that clock. You have to

show up for midterms. You have to vote. Don't listen to these people who are doom scrolling. These people who are just trying to bury the bus. We can still win this thing. They are, it's not going to happen after the midterms. But if the Republicans lose 2028, they're going to pack the courts. Yeah. They're going to. I think they'll probably curtail presidential pardon power. I'm going back to prison for sure. Yeah. I mean, that's true.

They will be going after personalities and stuff like that. I think that the things that the Democrats want to do, it'll go beyond packing the court. They'll do things like they'll blow up the filibuster so they can do all this stuff. They'll get rid of, they'll try to make additional states. Yeah, probably. Yeah. If they win the House and the Senate, filibuster's gone in a second.

second in this second. And then start ramming everything they can do. But Trump's going to veto and block a lot of it. Until a Democrat actually wins the presidency. Kind of sounds like Thune should do something then while we still have time. Yeah, sure. Oh yeah, you have the Republicans where Chuck Grassley comes out and like we need to get rid of the blue slip system. Like Trump can't get his judges across the finish line. And then he's like, well, you know, it's an important principle because during the Biden administration like we use it. And it's like, dude, we're getting shot at. Like what are we doing? Principles kind of out the window. Like we need to win now because if this MAGA, movement fails, it's tough to see the calculus after that. Like, it's going to be different. Power is the only thing that matters. I understand that there are people that are like, well, you know, principle matters, et cetera, et cetera. We live in the real world. Yeah. Principle does not actually provide you with victory. Principles is a way to say,

well, you know, we lost and it's an excuse for losing. We live in a, we live in the real politic world. So like the important thing is victories. So it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that you don't like to work with this person or that you feel kind of squishy about something victory winning having you know you're running the scoreboard up on your side is the only thing that matters and the the situation that we're in today where people on the right are getting killed people and the right are being put in jail for BS charges like that will only get worse yeah well yeah principle only matters if your opposition also has principles and then you have competing principles yeah but we're in a situation one side has principles this is the entire

higher like, this is with the back to the Venezuela thing, this is why it's driving so many of these people that are sort of adherent to the old system crazy because it's like Trump accurately views other countries as self-interested. And he's like, America should be self-interested. We should be self-interested. What's in it for us? How do we win? Let me hold the story. Let's let's take the story on, I know where we're running a little late, but, but I want to talk about this, my friends. From the Financial Times, influencers and only fan models, dominate U.S. extraordinary artist visas. They're hookers. All of them.

Work permits increasingly being awarded on the basis of online reach favoring content creators. Yeah, the only fans, things. Was this what we were fighting for? Is this? Can we, can we? We've been fighting for nice boobies our entire existence. Yeah, we wanted Trump to bring in porn stars and hookers on our 01 visas. Did Alex Stein get a, or get a job there?

Yeah. Big Boobie the team is coming in? Is that it? I think the, I think the challenging reality that we have that people don't want to understand is the problem, Rome wasn't built in the day. We can't turn around and solve all the problems at once because they're interconnected. And so what do you do? Trump goes full dictator despot and just overnight rewrites everything and locks everything down. So I think we're going to be stuck with this kind of BS and Trump's going to be only a marginal success. To be fair, he's a little

bit more than marginal. I mean, getting rid of USAID was massive. So I think it's a historic presidency, but it's not going to be as much as needs to happen. And we have to win probably another 12 to 13 years of presidential power and Congress in the Senate to truly start turning the ship around. We would have to win another 10 to 12 election cycles to truly turn it around. And that's what when I got out of the Pentagon and came back to the mic on the show, that's what I told everybody. I said the main thing I want everyone to know. This is my kind of Paul Revere moment that like the battle is not over. It's not the British are coming, but the, you know, the Dems are coming.

Like, like, it is not over. We've got to win again and again and again and again and again. And I think that's what you're going to hear when Dan eventually does go back to his show. I think he will also echo those points. I don't see Dan coming out and defending himself a lot. I see him taking the approach of, I don't care what those idiots have to say, this is what really is going on. And this is why I'm back. We have to win these midterms because to your point, Donald Trump will be impeached.

He's already said he knows it. He'll be impeached. Every secretary we have will be dragged in front of Congress. They will probably try to put Pete Hegseth behind bars for war crimes. all of this stuff will happen. Every one of us that was on the FBI's watch list that we now know we were, what do you think will happen in 28 if we don't win in 28? They're going to come after us harder than they ever did during the Biden administration.

These are all things that are really going to happen. These are the realities of things that are going to happen. So you can sit and you can whine and you can moan and you can complain all you want to. Maybe it's bots. Maybe it's foreign entities. whatever it may be. Maybe it's big tech companies might want to fracture the right. Whatever it may be, if we keep going down this road, we will lose the midterms. We will lose 2028. And then we will have 2020 through 2024 10x of what it was. And that is what

Triple masks. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to come back. Where three of them. They will lock you down again. We will go to social credit scores. Like all these things are real. And the average American has not felt that. We have felt that because we've had big tech go after us. You've been put in prison. You've had people shoot at you in your house. I get 100 death threats a day. We call it a Tuesday at the office. Like we deal with actual targeting against us for our views and what we think and what we feel. The average American has not had to deal with that. That is just the truth. And a lot of people see us. right now, Tim, I know they see it in your face because I see it in your face too.

They see it in mine in the show. We know more than we did 10, 12 years ago when we first started doing this. We have seen more. We have and we are in real time watching what's going on. And we're also trying to discern and figure out which way is this thing turning. Who's real? Who's not? Who's actually on the team?

Who's just in it to get their bag? as you said, Tim, who can we actually trust? I'm being generous when I think, when I say, I think you can automatically say 50% of the people that you listen to and that you watch are not in it to help you. They do not give a crap about this country. They do not care if it burns to the ground. They just want their money and or they want the power of being famous.

Yeah. And that's generous. 50%. more 87, 90% personally. But that is where we really are. Yeah. And people don't want to hear it, but that is the truth. Silver linings, if they do get back into power, it means I get my TSA special time again.

Which is, you know, always a plus. Do you have pre-check? I do not. Really? You should apply. I should. I should. It's a post-check.

Now it's post-check, I think. Post-check. You apply for pre-check and they add post-check. It's a red check mark. Most airports, if you're flying first, you get to go through that lane anyway. It's like a handful, yeah. A guaranteed 100% random bag checks. It's totally random, but it will happen every time.

Literally. It's one of those things that's like it was after the Charlie Kirk assassination. I think people would realize this is like when the left says things, you actually should believe them when they say these things because they actually intend on doing it. Like I get tweets every day. If you have expressed any support for the mass deportations with ISIS operations, you're on a list.

Like people don't realize this. even if you have a small Twitter account, if it's your name on there and you've tweeted like these things, I promise you, go to archive.org, someone has logged your account. They have documented it.

It's on internet archive. So the commentariat, but even like patriots that are supporting the commentariat are cooked if the Democrats get back in because when they tweet it, they tweet at me all the time, they're like,

Nuremberg trials for conservatives. It's coming. You're in trouble. I actually believe them. I'm like, yeah, if they ever get back in power, they do intend on doing that. They tweeted they were going to kill Charlie

and then Charlie got killed. Yeah, just believe these people when they say these things. And get moving. Like it's crazy. Well, well,

people get mad at people like Tim, all of us because we get behind the mic and they can see we are frustrated, right? But these are the same people that Dan Bongino, when he was deputy director in his office looks me and I and go, yeah, you're on all kinds of lists in here. Like,

you know what I mean? Like, like we know. We know that we know that we know and they're going to go after us first. Because we're the dissenting voices. We are the ones. They're going to go after us to make examples out of us for all of the other people that watch us. And then when we're not there anymore, they're going to go after everybody else.

So it's frustration. Tim, to your point, we're trying to work it out in our heads at the same time. We're fighting for this country, but this country is now turning against us because we're not bobbing and weaving with every freaking thing. Because they're not the trending thing going on. They're not for this country. They're an extra national force that wants to create global economic blocks. The liberal economic order may have started with the United States, but it's effectively an extra governmental entity that just puppet strings the United States.

And the problem is, how do you stop someone who's figured it out? And any conspiracy, right? Someone goes, I'm on to something. I think I have evidence that you're doing a thing. You want them to go in the wrong direction. So I mentioned this with PizzaGate. People started to say, hey, these emails from the Democrats are really weird. What's this talking about?

A handkerchief with a map on it? What could that mean? What do they mean when they said, is it more fun to do domino, play dominoes on pizza or on pasta? Okay, well, if I was working in government and I was concerned that people figured out Democrats were having drunken drug-fueled orgies, how do you break that, that chain? They inserted fake stuff about comment ping pong and pizza restaurants. a guy went and shot the ground looking for a basement that didn't exist. Everyone then is told, see, it's not really you're crazy and it dissipates.

So when you begin talking about the liberal economic order formed after World War II to create economic blocks to their view was the World Bank, switch payment system, we will prevent World War III by making everybody trade with each other. That's why Canada with no bauxite mines refines aluminum for the United States. I mean, we have bauxite mines in Louisiana. Why are we importing aluminum from Canada? Canada imports their raw minerals from China and like New Guinea and Brazil. It's because the goal is war stops if you're dependent upon each other. That's the liberal economic order plan. When people start pointing this out, what do you do?

Tell them it's the Jews. Then they sound like they're retarded and won't actually be able to pinpoint who's doing what. Because remember for a long time, what were we all talking about? the world economic forum and the Davos group. These same people are now tweeting the Jews all day. I assure you, random regulars have nothing to do with what the world economic form is doing. There may be some people who are Jewish,

but if you go to someone and say, there is a group, the Davos group, there is Soros, there is the World Economic Forum, there is the Council on Foreign Relations. These things exist. You can read their websites. Here's what they're doing.

I think it's a bad thing. Enough people start calling out. You will own nothing and you will be happy. You will eat the bugs. And they go, crap. How do we get them off this? Put Candace on the front page and never screams the Jews. Now the people that were once talking about the Davos group are talking about Zajuz.

And they sound like they're retarded. That's how you break it apart. So to the point, what is happening with this country when you say they're going to put us on list and they're going to do these things to us? It's not America is doing it. Trump is America. We're America. It's the forces outside of America that want to create an international order since World War II that are looking at us like basically chickens in a chicken coop. that are ruffling feathers, and you know what you do with chickens that are causing fights?

You eat them. Yep. Global homo. That's right. Global homogenization. Yeah. So, look, if I had five chicken coops and I was like, they're always fighting with each other, I want to make it so that they can all be in one coop.

If there's one rearst that's causing problems, you ax them. You pull them out, you string up, you chops out, you eat them. And then you, that's what they're doing. The interests here are international. They are not pro-America. And they have influence in our politics. They have influence in the UK. And I don't consider them to be pro-America.

It's NATO. It's the Western powers. And then I have to deal with these retards that are like, you mean Israel? No, Israel's on a puppet string too. Don't be stupid. But they are. And because of people like that,

that's why we struggle to form a coalition and actually go against them. But let me just stress this again. Five years ago, what was everyone saying? Davos Group, World of Connock Forum. Council on Foreign Relations, Liberal Economic Order, so payment system, monetary, International Monetary Fund. Now what are all the people saying?

Israel. We were on the right track for a while. Yeah, well, I mean, look, this is the ultimate way to determine who is the most viable threat to the system. It's like, are they targeting radicals? These people that are like really edgy and these sorts of things?

No, they're targeting people that have occupied the mainstream and reoriented it. Charlie Kirk, Donald Trump's. I do want to stress one thing to you because I went to the, I was at a Davos group. I'm sorry, I was in Davos during the World Economic Forum back in, I think it was 2017. So I didn't get into the World Economic Forum, but outside of the main conference, they have these pop-up events.

It's kind of like a wealthy internationalist South by Southwest. And I'll just say that as I said it before, I'll say it again. The theme there was that cryptocurrency was going to be the global machine. And it's funny because 2017, what was Bitcoin's price back? back then. 2017, it was like it just hit $20,000. I think, I think it was briefly when it dropped back down to like, you know.

It dropped all the bit down at 3,000. Yeah, something like that. At this time, I have all of these global elites and politicians and family of royalty in and around Davos and they're saying our intention. They didn't say like, we are going to conquer the world

to make everyone use crypto. They were saying our company, our family, our politicians, our government, we want crypto to be the thing. Look where crypto is now. It's expanding. It's growing. I think it's very clear that international elites of varying political factions, their intention is to make crypto the currency of the...

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video titled Live Replay TPA's America Fest Conference Day 2, 1219, 2025. On the LG screen, you want to try and find it? Yeah, I'm looking at. All right, Phil's going to try and find it. What time did he say? Three hours and 43 seconds. I'm sorry, three hours, 43 minutes, and 40 seconds. KC85 says, Noble Six from Discord here got laid off today.

Makes it more irritating. Alleged criminals and other Democrat-funded leeches have drained billions of our taxes that could help people like myself preach bummer yeah shewit wado says prayers out to the crew uh uh really do appreciate it um uh callin's pretty banged up but he was discharged uh mark staying overnight hopefully uh everything's good but i don't want to say uh i don't know if serious is the right to describe it but i think serious were the injuries like um marks marks mark's pretty bad you know but we think he's going to be okay. So, you know, hoping for the best.

Pinochet says, for the record, not one damn corrupt federal agent was fired. Do nothing, Dan, didn't do ish. That is a line of BS from this guest. I'm going to say it again, brother. You don't know what's going on in the machine. That's also not true. They did, and then they got blocked from firing everything.

The same thing that happened in the Pentagon. All the department at the time, DOD employees that were let go. and they had voluntary let go and then some were being let go. They got blocked by the courts and then and then they ruled that they had to hire them back and all this other kind of stuff. You don't know what you're talking about. Go back and read it. Go back and look at all the articles.

Just to put it simply, I don't understand this idea that before Dan went in, everyone's like, yes. Then Dan goes in. You don't get what you want and Dan comes out. We're the same place we were before he went in. I don't understand. These are the people saying the FBI needs to be shut down. What is the premise of that?

The FBI is not something that can be recovered from. So that hasn't changed, has it? So when Dan goes in, if your premise was the FBI should shut down, it's not safe. It's not salvageable. What change? You thought Dan could do it? No. Your premise still is the same.

I think you're, I just don't understand why it's zero sum. Like, you're all of a sudden, Dan, like Dan's not accomplished anything good. He's done so much good. Why is this one thing he messed up making him a bad person now? He didn't press the fix everything button. How dare him? It was right there on his desk and he never pressed it. I think it's fine if someone says he failed.

I'm disappointed. He was a terrible deputy FBI director, but he's on a lot of great work. I look forward to him coming back and working and doing more for us. Like, I don't understand why he's not. He's bad enough forever. I'm like, what? It's not zero sum.

Take as much positive as you can. If he didn't do the best job, if he didn't do a good job, if he did a bad job, fine. call him out, criticize him for it, and then wish him the best to keep working on behalf of us when he comes back to his show. Is it the most effective place he can be? It may be. People are making fun of him being like,

oh, now that Dan's leaving the FBI, he's going to get the job done. And I'm like, yeah, maybe it's the best place for him. Like, maybe he's not good at being in the FBI. I don't know. Yeah, or we can just wait and see what he has to say. I mean, like, we haven't even really heard much from Dan. Well, also, even if, even if,

which is not true, but hypothetically, even if Dan accomplished nothing. And he was this terrible deputy director, which he was not. Even if, okay, the guy tried. Yeah. He tried. He did what 300 plus million other Americans would not do, especially giving up what he gave up to go do it.

He tried. Even if he did hypothetically suck at it, which he didn't. But even if he did, at least he tried. Right. You know, can the majority of Americans say that? No, they can't. I love those one. Hopsiddy says, hold on.

Didn't Tim have a meeting with Netanyahu? And he's the one that keeps saying the Jews trying to discredit a legitimate complaint about foreign influence on our government. You have zero credibility. You know who else met with Nanjahou? Trump. Yeah. That proves it.

That proves that Trump actually is only the vice president. Netanyahu is the president of America. Netanyahu was actually just with Trump. Is it crazy stuff? You want to hear something crazy? Whoa. That proves it. And if you go to Netanyahu's Wikipedia page, you go to early life, he's Jewish.

Shut off. Yeah, I know. Every time, it's like these Israeli prime ministers, every time it's Jewish. It's like, what? I'm starting to think Israel's ran by Jews. Everystein, Singelberg, Timeowitz. Mason says, Tim, I have a theory that will make everyone mad. Netanyahu took your warning about the indifference and antipathy of America's future towards Israel

and paid off evil people to make that retarded. I disagree because the right and the left hate Israel. This is the thing about the Israel conspiracy theory. Israel is retarded. I'm sorry. It's just true. They are miserably bad at PR. Nothing that they're doing is like.

Charlie told him that. Charlie that was in Charlie's note. He did a he did a seminar with Gen Z with Andrew Colvert to convince Gen Z that Israel was good. Like that's what he was doing for Israel. Israel is so bad at PR. Everyone hates them. and I don't understand this conspiracy theory where it's like, you know, Israel's controlling everything. Then why does everyone hate them?

Yeah. Why is YouTube propping up Candace Owens? Israel must not control YouTube. YouTube is the last rebellion. Is that what it is? YouTube is the last place for free speech to call out Israel, I guess. Why are the people that make the most money doing what we do, are they allowed to talk about Israel and talk bad about Israel? by the very premise, if Israel controls everything, then why do those of us that make the most money,

Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Canis, all these people, they make the most money out of all of us that do this. Yeah. And they all hate Israel. Breaking the rules. Why are they allowed to do it? That doesn't make sense. It's safe edgy too because it's like there was a time where it was a little controversial and you could get in trouble or, you know, have some issues. None of them had anything to say.

It's as soon as it's like now in vogue to critique Israel. They can be like, like, you have these comedians getting up and they're like, I'm worried about my life if I say something about Israel. I'm like, dude, you have the biggest podcast. Well, if you want, there's an idea I've heard that if you want to make people believe anti-sendism is real, then you have to promote it. Right. And so maybe the large amount of things we're hearing online with people being propped up is them saying, see, anti-Semitism is real and it's everywhere. I mean, that would mean that in the next few years, they will be censored and shut down. And perhaps it's a false flag, maybe.

that you get this, you know, Candace, massive show, Ian Carroll, all of these Ziju people, and on the left and the right, a year or two later, the government comes on and says, see, look at this problem, we need a censor, and that's how they bring censorship back. Yeah, look, I think it's all getting retarded. We got to go to the uncensored portion of the show, but I've got one super chat. I want to read from Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Adam, do you regret taking part in the second 9-11? No, not a bit.

Honestly, at this point, I think we should have done more. All right, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show. Go to rumble.com slash Timcast, IRL. And we're going to talk a little bit more about what there's going on here. And it's going to be uncensored. So we're going to say naughty things. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Adam, do you want to shout anything out?

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