Timcast IRL - Trump Deploys 5,000 TROOPS To Middle East For IRAN WAR, ITS ON w/ Michael Malice

Episode Date: March 14, 2026

Tim and Phil are joined by Michael Malice and Luke Rudkowski to discuss the Pentagon moving 5,000 troops moving to the Middle East, Trump Staffer abruptly leaving an Interview, and Epstein jail staff using a fake body to trick media.  SUPPORT THE SHOW BUY CAST BREW COFFEE NOW - https://castbrew.com/ Join - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLwN... Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Luke https://linktr.ee/lukewearechange Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest: Michael Malice @michaelmalice (X) Podcast available on all podcast platforms! Trump Deploys 5,000 TROOPS To Middle East For IRAN WAR, ITS ON | Timcast IRL w/ Michael Malice For advertising inquiries please email [e-mail]

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advisor, free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with eye gaming Ontario. Donald Trump is deploying 5,000 Marines and sailors into the Middle East for support in this war with Iran. He also announced that he bombed one. of the principal oil depots for Iran, Karg Island, which has about 90% of their distribution. But he said, because he is so magnanimous, that he had spared their oil infrastructure, but should he change his mind, he will wipe out the rest of it. It looks like we will be getting some kind of boots on the ground, perhaps, but it's likely going to be naval operations.

We don't know exactly. Some have argued that this deployment may just be a standard rotation, but the media is reporting that we're getting 5,000 additional troops to support. the war effort in Iran and all of a sudden we're seeing on prediction markets that the likelihood US troops enter Iran is ever increasing right now the speculation is that the new supreme leader that's a Mojhtaba I think he presents his name is dead now the official reporting is that he's comatose and maimed and lost his leg and he may not have been alive the whole time I'm sorry he may not have been conscious the whole time they've since they've

named him supreme leader so he may not even know but the there are apparently rumors going around that is actually dead. So we have a lot to break down in what is about to happen in this war. And I must stress, if there really are going to be troops on the ground in the Middle East, I think they waited until Friday the 13th for a reason, not for any superstitious reason, just that Friday is where news goes to die. So we're going to get into all that. Before we do, my friends, we've got a great sponsor. It is Rumble Wallet. You guys got to check out that rumble wallet, my friends. You go to wallet.rundt.com. You download this app. It is a non-custodial currency. I basically can have tether, gold, Bitcoin on it, and non-custodial means you can't be

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I am how many times I've been on the show now? It's probably like my 10th a hundred a hundred times Yeah, there is a little goal I want to have for this episode tonight which why'd you make that face? I'm like I was gonna say which is Which is so I it was Eric Jolibin a guest in the show as well yes yes, so I'm doing a I wrote a graphic novel in 2001 about this band from the 80s and it's the only band where you don't have to know what their music Sounds like to actually enjoy the story six art school kids who combined punk and country got signed the same day by the same guys Bon Jovi and you could read the rest so So you and I, Tim, have talked a lot about how there's a lot of darkness in the media. This is a fun story, and the gatekeepers are no longer there to kind of keep people from writing graphic novels and producing great stuff. I was going to reach a goal, but we already reached the goal.

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Let's get to the news. We got this from NBC News. Live updates, six killed in U.S. refueling plane crash. Iran's new Supreme Leader likely disfigured, Hegg Seth says. And I think the big, big story here is approximately 5,000 additional Marines and sailors are deploying to the Middle East to support the war in Iraq. according to three U.S. officials. But can we also say one more thing? There have been increasing numbers of deaths and injuries from U.S. forces,

but it seems they're all friendly fire or like our fault. Well, that's what we're being told. We don't know the true number yet as well of how many. We do know that there's reports of blood donations being asked in Stuttgart, Germany. And obviously, we don't know the full scale of this conflict. But obviously, we're killing a lot more Iranians, but Americans are still being hurt in maybe probably larger numbers than we're being told. There's no question about that, but I think it's just kind of funny that they're reporting all these decks and they're all saying, well, it's all our fault instead of making it kind of heroic thing that, oh, they die in the line of duty.

Well, I think they don't want to say Iran killed our guys. Oh, yeah, you're right. Or Kuwait or whoever, yeah. Yeah, right, because it was friendly fire. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Do you think these troops are going to go into Iran? So, look, I'll defer to Luke. Yeah, I think if they're going to go anywhere, they're going to go towards the straight of Hermus.

No, that's clear. in order to get a foothold there to open up the straight. It's going to be very difficult. The terrain there is extremely mountainous, and the Iranians have been preparing for this ever since the Iraq invasion in 2003. So it's going to be an extremely difficult task. Some people are saying that they're going to be sent to some of the hardened positions

that can't be bombed by some of those big, massive 30,000-pound bombs that we have already dropped on them, and therefore we need troops on the ground there to be inserted in order to take out those facilities. So either way, it's going to be extremely difficult, extremely tough. I know there was talks about setting in the Kurds. The Kurds kind of volunteered a little bit, and then they said, no, there was talks about arming ISIS,

also in the region to go after Iran. Armed ISIS again. But we are arming other rebel groups. And the plan, even as Lindsay Graham talked about, was giving a lot of the ethnic minorities in Iran weapons in order to start this Iranian Civil War. We have been bombing their infrastructure. We bombed their water desalien.

nation plants. We bombed their oil infrastructure and it's going to be just a mad rush of sectarian violence of people just literally fighting over water. Okay. Can I jump in here because there's a lot of talk that the fear mongering that they're going to start activating sleeper cells in America when literally, as you just said, that is our plan to activate sleeper cells in Iran. My big fear besides all the obvious fears that everyone has concerning this situation is that the U.S. does something that it's done many times in the past, something Trump has done to zone. that he encouraged everyone to rise up. Guys, take back your country.

This is great. Yeah, Mr. President, we got it. And then he's like, okay, good luck, bye. And then all those people who had faith in him end up slaughtered. And I think that is a very likely scenario, and that is something that is very concerning to me. That's exactly what happens in history.

That's exactly what happens with American intervention and propping up these groups that later give a significant blowback and bomb us and attack us with the same type of organizations that we pop up. What do you think the reason for the, Iranian war is Mr. Mills. I think what Luke said is before we started recording was exactly right and hadn't heard before.

Which is, go ahead, please. Well, no, no. Well, no, the point is clearly this is something Israel has wanted for a very long time. Nanyahu said explicitly he's been beaten off to this idea for 40 years. We called looning. That's what it's called. That's clear part of it. There's also, I think, two big parts for Trump.

Trump, I think, in his second term is like, you know what, I've got power. F it. I'm going to use. I'm going to put my meat on the table and see how far I can use America's clout to kind of change the world in my own image. And Luke's point earlier, which I hadn't thought of earlier before, which is clear to me, is Trump thinks, okay, if we lock down the Middle East in a scenario where it's roughly stable and amenable to our allies and our interests, we can move forward to Asia. Yeah, not even stable. It's about making Israel the dominant superpower in the region. Bibi just said, we are going to be the superpower now after saying that he's a poor victim of the Iran.

And then once Israel is established inside of the Middle East, America will focus its troops, its resources on Asia. And that's where the next big battles and Asia is going to be the next Middle East. And the purpose. He's been very, very clear that China is the big bad and I don't think he's wrong. And the purpose of the Venezuela operation was to secure oil distribution before Iran shut it down. Otherwise, gas prices would be five times higher. And also take Cuba as kind of a... Oh, Cuba.

This is another massive story. we should probably talk about Cuba's gone. Yeah. You know they're letting the FBI in? They said there's riots, there's protest, there's no gas, the power's out, and they're like, please, we'll do whatever you say. Well, they're doing an embargo. They're doing a blockade of anything into Cuba because it used to be Mexico, it used to be

Venezuela that provided them energy. They're no longer doing that. Well, there's always been an embargo for a very long time, but Venezuela was just supplying energy. Since we seized back our oil assets from Venezuela, Cuba's got nothing left. And Mexico, too. Mexico was pressured. Mexico stopped providing energy too. And I do want to shout out to the Cuban people who are, based and awesome and it's the ones in America and also your heartbreak for the ones who are there

whose only fault was being born under this you know communist dictatorship and now they're the ones paying the press I live in Miami and one of the things that I have in common what a lot of the people there is we don't like communists yeah right so they know what it means and yeah and they survived it just like I did just like my family yes and no one loves top down big government and the people of Miami are amazing beautiful people that's why I live there I love I love all the people who are like communism are you crazy are you sick and that's why there's such a big pushback against Should we take Cuba?

We don't need to take Cuba. Cuba's going to take itself. I'm not saying like should we invade, I'm saying should we bring them into the folds which you go to them and be like okay now you're part of the U.S. sphere of influence. Make it like Puerto Rico? Well, I'm not saying make it a territory. I'm saying should we go to their government

and have a treaty with them and say you are now part of the Western sphere of influence? Whatever gets Cubans food and security in their own person is something I'm in favor of. At the least cost of life that's that I think everyone he would agree with that they want to topp the government I mean we read we could hope stop the embargo now and deliver all that but they want to change the regime there but doesn't Vietnam like still

technically have a communist government because they're basically Western we're crazy communism is not necessarily communist either no but I mean Vietnam calls itself communist but they're not really in any sense but this the Chinese Communist Party does not what I'm saying is isn't Vietnam far more liberal than the common than China yeah oh I don't know yeah right yeah yeah you mean like gay stuff like gay communism no markets i mean markets and oh oh you're saying freer markets yes yes when you say liberal there's like there's the american political i'm using the actual definition i know i know because like the americal the america the america the american colloquial definition

of liberal is more marxist communists isn't that i would say i would say prog or leftist for that yeah right right right personally i'm a little bit worried with how disorganized this whole military campaign is uh there's been poor messaging poor planning it's been really expensive there's a lot of innocent people that have died. American troops have died. Where are we going? We don't even know. What today said, he's going to feel it in his bones. And that's when we're going to end it. And what's the wind condition? Exactly. We don't know. He doesn't tell. For Iran? Yeah. The wind condition for the United States is to destroy the Iranian government and basically give Saudi Arabia control of the Gulf. But the point is this, what I hate, I'm not saying you're saying

this. People are always like everything's the worst possible. It could get worse for the Iranians. It could be pulpit. Way worse for the Iranian. Yeah. They have no water. They have no water. They have a huge water shortage and we bombed their water desalination plant. I don't think we bought their desalination plants yet. Iran has had a water desalination plant that was hit. But desalination it barely worked as it is. It's still favorable towards no water at all. Right.

I'll take what they can get. I'll take anything. I worry that it doesn't really do anything. But it's not about Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is also a major superpower, but it's about having Israel being independent in the region. It's about Israel being strong in the region. I do worry that oil prices are going to. to go up after this, right? Because all of the energy that Iran was producing on the world markets,

it's gone, and the infrastructure for that's gone, too. So price of it is going to go up. Did you hear Trump, like, freaked out when he heard Israel bombed the oil fields in Iran? Yeah, allegedly, that's what was said with American officials saying WTF to Israeli officials because there's the Israeli government that did it. The other big behind the scenes conflict that I've seen reporting on, we don't know how much of this is true, how much speculation, is that the people Trump wants to install for the new Iran and the people Bibi once seen power are not the same people. Right, which is very plausible. And there's a mixed message and there's mixed bombings.

What I also worry about is, you know, not just energy prices because that's Trump's key plan. Lower energy, lower everything else. One thing that's important to understand here, in 2015, Iran was selling oil on U.S. dollars. I looked to this up, right? If we wanted to make a deal with them, the deal was open and available. We could have negotiated. Donald Trump even criticized Obama for not negotiating well enough. for trying to bomb Iran.

So I do believe that this is a quagmire. This is a situation where the United States is reaching out to the Iranian saying, okay, you guys want a ceasefire? They're saying no. So this is a disaster. Lots of lives are being lost. But I've also heard that they are behind the scenes

desperately wanting a ceasefire. Exactly. So who do you believe? I don't know. All of this. One thing is constant. The war's continuing, right? That's correct.

And it's not. And the longer it goes on, the worst it is for Trump and this administration, the Hens' legacy. I agree with that. So I think that is more. reliable for me to understand, hey, it's still going on.

Right. At the same time, if they don't have someone in charge, they're not a position to call for ceasefire. Who's going to be on calling for the ceasefire? Iran has been practicing, because the American doctrine is to cut off the head of the snake. Right. Right. So the Iranians, after 2003, saw what happened to Saddam, and they set up these type of governance

systems that can run independently in different pockets and different bodies. So there are different forms of leadership. that are active in different regions. But my point is they all have their own interests, they all have their own power centers. It's not going to use easy as if there's the one guy. Exactly. Yeah. Showy, we'll jump to this next story.

We've got this viral video of Scott Besson. Oh, yeah. That is, it's kind of weird. He was pulled away from an interview and then came back and then just volunteered up his children to go fight in this war. Take a listen. I listened to you on the...

Sorry, the president wants you. Sorry, the president wants you, right away. Oh. Right away. Okay. Okay, no problem at all. See you shortly, Mr. Secretary. You have to work that in.

Mr. Secretary, I have to say, it's a first, I'm sure, a last as well, that an interviewer has been pulled away to go to the situation room. How is the President? Was he stressed? No, the President is in great spirits. The Iranian mission is proceeding well ahead of scale. And I have to tell you, well, that I've a teenager who is considering military service.

And I could give this team my highest compliment from President Trump to the head of the Joint Chiefs to the Secretary of War. I know what happened. I would say that I would trust my child's life in their hands. Wow. He was told to say that. He was told to say that. He got played the sizzledrip video. The White House video.

The Cisseltrip video. You know this. Do you not know this? Would you talk about the White House videos that they were with the video games and memes? No. You of all people don't know what Cizzledrip is? No. I have to tell everyone.

You have to explain it to us. Hillary Clinton was asked about this. Cisle Dr. By Lauren Bobert. Apparently there is, was a bunch of files found on Anthony Wiener's laptop. All the cops who saw it ended up prematurely losing their place in this earth. I don't want to say the word by the one hands. And the video is called sizzledrip.move.m.a.v. And it's a video supposedly of

Hillary Clinton and Huma Aberdeen skinning a girl's face and then wearing her skin over it. Whoa. Oh, really? And Lauren Bobin asked Hillary Clinton about it. I got to be honest. You know you've seen it. Maybe. I don't know. But my, I was going to say it. Look at that reaction. I'm saying Trump just told him to say that. Oh, you think. Yeah, he went back in Trump said, I want you to tell them, everything's going great and, you know, really sell it. Because all the interviewer asked was, wow, you got a political situation room. How's it going? He's like, Trump says the war is going really, really great. And I trust my son with these people. They're like, they're like, uh, they're all like, uh, fat. Like we need more people in the military.

I got to say, man, it is, it is, it is mind blowing to me how many, uh, Trump supporters are just in locked step with this, despite the massive, uh, moderate outrage. I should. suppose. Independence, disaffected liberals, libertarians are very, very unhappy right now. Even prominent conservatives, many are questioning the Iran war, but there are still like Alex Jones pointed out, people like cat dirt that are sitting there, be like, no, everything's fine. I can tell you why, because I could steal me on this position. This is not my position. Let me be clear. Because they feel that for the first time in their lives, they've usually a little bit older, that there's someone in Washington who hears them, who speaks for them, who makes them feel seen.

And at a certain point, it's like, you know what? Who's to say what's right or wrong? But I trust this guy. And if he's saying this is the right thing to do, rah-rah American flag. That's their thinking. I think there's a lot of astro-turfing. I think there's a lot of bots.

I think there's a lot of influencer campaigns. Yeah, I mean, you can't have 92% on Fox News being reported as people who support this call us. I think those of MAGA. I think those who are terminally online, I think the internet and real life are getting further and further apart. And I think a lot of people who aren't on social media who aren't paying attention.

It hasn't affect their lives other than gas prices. It's easy for them to be like, oh yeah, we're going again, we're going to kick ass. You know, everything's great. I mean, even Ann Coulter, that I described as the neocon queen

during the Bush era, she came out and today said that this is a total disaster. It needs to stop. And Coulter had said years ago that we should invade all their countries to convert their leaders to Christianity. And torture people. Yeah.

And Gitmo. Yeah. She also said Trump wasn't going to make Iowa in 2024. Hmm. Well, I mean... Oh, you're talking... Are you, that video you're referring to? Is that the deep fake video of Hillary torturing people? I don't know there's a, no, no, there's a urban legend. Frazzle drip, sorry, yeah.

Oh, okay, yeah, frazzle drip. Yeah. Yeah, 2018, frazzle drip. Yeah. I don't know what they was. I didn't know, you misspoke. I don't know they made the video, but that was the, the, she got asked about it. Frazzle drip. Don't say it three times it'll manifest. You said, that's, that was the point. Now, it's going to happen. You know, uh, I think everything's faking gay. Yeah. Okay. That's true. Yeah, it's just, that's how I feel about everything. You know what else I say? Can I say more thing with this around war? Not every, human beings don't listen to look for truths.

They look for narratives, right? Yeah. If you think Trump is this evil authoritarian strongman, which is your prerogative, he could be Mussolini. He could be Franco. Not everyone's Hitler, who's a bad authoritarian dictator. Not everything is the Iraq war. I got a question, of course. I got a question, for you.

Not everything is Venezuela. Yeah. Mr. Miles, I have a question for you. Do you think that Buchanan was a victim of his circumstances? Pat? President James. You mean the 15th president? Yeah, he was the...

But for Lincoln. So he's widely... Yes, before Lincoln. He's widely regarded as one of the worst presidents, if not the worst we've ever had. But I wonder if, given his circumstances... He was gay. He wasn't?

He was. He was gay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like a bachelor. So... And the vice president was his boyfriend. My thought was this. A lot of people say he was weak. He tried to placate both sides.

It didn't work. But what if Lincoln had that position? Okay. And many people believe that Lincoln was an iron fist president. He said, you know what? It's not going to happen. Okay. You're questioning that?

I wouldn't. The march to the sea, the suspension of habeas corpus, the arrest of a Maryland legislation. I assure you as an anarchist, I'm quite familiar with Lincoln's shortcomings. I'm just saying, iron fist. I don't know if that's the word I would use. Well, let me put it like this. The reason I ask this is I was thinking about it. And I'm like, I wonder if Lincoln was president when the union was intact, if you

would have tried to negotiate to prevent it from happening. And only because he entered office after secession, did he say I have no choice. The reason being, I look at what Donald Trump is doing. And he's been heavily criticized recently. I've called him Buchanan because of the riots and his inability to send out law enforcement or invoke the Insurrection Act to now he's not, now that the, the, the, uh, the pitches, we're going to wind back the mass deportation thing. It's not popular. Trump is, is, he's going to, he's going to downplay. He told the message went out, stop talking about mass purification.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. So he's walking things back and people are viewing him as weak and not Lincoln ask. And I said this is more Buchanan, but. You think he's gay? Now, if he's got several kids. You never, never know. If J.D. Vance say gets in,

and now he's starting to falter in the prediction markets because of everything that's going on. But let's say he gets in in the midst of a... JD gets in, okay. Let's say 2020 comes around. The war here, it's not necessarily the Iran war, but global war has expanded. Venezuela destabilizes Iran's crazy.

China makes it move on Taiwan. Sure. J.D. Vance gets in, and it's not that he's a stronger, it's that he has no choice, right? I guess my question was, I don't think most people would assume that Buchanan, were he had to have gotten after a

award he started, would have been a strong president. But looking at Trump, I view him typically as kind of a boorish, strong man. Yeah, I think it's very fair. But he's been relatively weak in a lot of ways. I think people underestimate what he's facing, because they don't have a governing house majority.

Like a lot of people who are saying, abolish the filibuster. I'm like, why abolish the filibuster if you don't have the house? You can't pass any of Trump's legislation through. I think a lot of this stuff... You think we shouldn't abolish the filibuster. Of course not. Why? If we abolish the filibuster. If we abolish the filibuster, the Democrats are going to get the Senate eventually.

They're going to do it anyway. I don't agree with you, and here's why. Because there's one thing what people say, one thing what people do. If the filibuster is abolished, Thomas Massey, God bless him, has a big platform because they have a one-seat majority. If the Republicans had a 40-seat majority and Thomas Massey's pitching a fit, go after yourself. Trump's not going to care. So if you have lose the filibuster, every individual Democratic senator is infinitely less important because they're not in position to hold-up legislation. So yes, last time they lost by two votes, but Kristen Sinma said, and I believe her, that a lot of these senators are hiding behind her skirts because privately they don't want to lose a filibuster either because they want to be the half power.

But look, she's giving them cover. So a lot of times people assume that their opponents are automatically going to do everything. If they lose the filibuster, just going to say one more thing. If they lose the filibuster, we're going to have socialized health care. We're going to have amnesty for all these illegals. We're going to have nationalized gun bans. And I don't think it's a given that if you had a democratic president, it's not a given. You're for all those things?

At this point, I was going to say this a moment ago. Thank you. Finish your point, I'll finish your point. The other point is, back in, I think, the early odds to do the 90s, there was a balanced budget amendment on the floor of the Congress. And it was down to two votes in the Democrats. And Mary Landrieu, I think it was, and Torres Selle of New Jersey sat down, and he said, okay, you're going to vote no, I'm going to vote yes.

Because a lot of this stuff's about posturing. The Democratic Party is a corporate hack machine. They like their donors, they like their money. They're not as ideological as Bernie Sanders, the AOC, despite what your boomer uncle might tell you. I would like for a figurative black hole sun to come and wash away the rain, just of all of it. Figuratively. Why would a sun wash away rain? That's just the song, Michael.

I don't know. Everyone loves that. Well, Michael. I know who that is. Thank you. Thank you, pop-up video. Michael brought up a great point about the donut glass here. I want to make this point.

When I said I'm for all of these things, I'm not for those things they would pass. I am sick of a Congress that won't pass popular bills that will pass unpopular bills and if you're telling me that right now we can just say pull the trigger take what we want and then see what happens they can't take what they want because they don't have a house majority you can't get any Trump bills to the house they have one seat you do not have a function of the safe act I don't know that that's true if if we get rid of the filibuster yes you got you can't do they have a 53 in the Senate okay

Yeah, right. So the point is you could lose two or you could lose three senators and JD Vance could be the tiebreaker. So my attitude is this. The SAVE Act is one of the most popular pieces of legislation in our lifetime. Sure. 71% of Democrats, 80% of independence, 95% of Republicans and they won't pass it. Okay. Because they're a dysfunctional corrupt bunch. I don't know it. I'm not disputing a dysfunctional corrupt at all. My point is the the you have to look at Thomas Sol says there's no solutions, only tradeoffs, right? So if you get the Save Act at the cost of all these other stuff court packing I don't know that's necessarily a win I and I don't I think people just I think the crux of our disagreement Is people assume it's a given that when the Democrats take over the Senate They're gonna nuke the filibuster and I disagree that it's a one let me let me happen I just don't get to give is is is is the current state of affairs Acceptable in any way You know it you know it is acceptable because you're not you're not gonna get violent You're accepting it you should I mean

You're saying that for the average person because there's no violence is at least somewhat acceptable. Right, to a degree. Because there's something called real preferences. If I say that I believe in monogamy and I'm cheating my wife every weekend, I don't really believe in monogony. So I could say it's unacceptable, but I'm accepting it. I kind of believe in... Well, I would phrase it as actions speak louder than words, and I would agree with you on that. But I would also say one of the stories that we have tonight is the conviction of several antifa terrorists for terror attacks on ice facilities.

So... Can I say one more thing? Yeah. It's not acceptable, but it's acceptable, but it's not sustainable. I think that's the bigger key. So my view is this. Do we sit around and well, I guess I'll put it this way. If the system stays as it is and we do not, the save back scares me.

The save back scares me because it's so popular. This is one of those things where it really does flashbang the American people. The emperor has no clothes. I don't think it does. I'm not saying that every single person is going to wake up to it. I'm saying it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a red pill. You're turning the temperature up on the boiling, up on the boiling frogs by three degrees that have one degree i agree i agree but i also think that this is

a low ceiling for how many people can be red-pilled it's much lower than people think what what well i agree i agree my point is not that when i say flashbang not that everyone's going to wake up incident lane and say oh my god it's that it's a jolt a little too much the system can't necessarily handle it is a delicate balance you need only a very small percentage of people to lose their minds i agree with that so when you have a populist base of the the plurality of voters supported trump The politico is not the average person. Sure. Seeing that even when Democrats and Republicans agree, the machine state will not allow you to get election integrity through, the emperor has no clothes.

And it's going to be a kick in the balls to a lot of people. I think it will accelerate things. It's just basically my point. I'm going to say two things. So final point. Please. If it is to remain this way, the only advice I would have to people is ammunition and emergency food. I agree with everything you said, and that's why there's something called the Anarchist Handbook,

which you can pick people pick up at Anacisthandbook.com, because at a certain point... When I was a kid. Oh, you're right. You're right. Anacist textbook is me. What people, me and Luke and Phil have been talking about for a long time is you can't fix it. This is something that is systemic, that is something that is ingrained to the system. You cannot make this work. You can make it better.

You can make it worse. But it's still going off the cliff. So I do think the Democrats are going to get rid of the filibuster, but also I agree with you 100 and 10%. The Republicans are hijacked by the donor class. Yes. They're doing everything that the donors want. But they always have a big money interest. Let's break this down.

Let's break this down. So Luke, you just mentioned that the Republicans are captured by the donor class. Yes. I've heard it a lot, but I'm curious, what is the agenda of the donor class and what does it mean to be captured by them? It depends which donor class, right? There's the military industrial complex, Lockheed, Maury, and Raytheon, they're getting a lot from these Iranian war. Marianne Andelson, $250 million. She obviously is getting a lot of favorable policies as well.

And what does she want specifically? Trump to run for a third term and for the expansion of Israeli state. She offered Trump a bunch of money for something very specific. And that's the West Bank. Yes. Okay. Exactly. Yes.

And she's probably going to get, you know, rewarded by that. Elon Musk gave, you know, what is it, $100 million so he could have favorable treatment with his government contracts. Right. He didn't even get the, you know what he wanted. He wanted the, let's go. and he didn't even get it. Nightmare future dystopia, neon. It's not a dystopia, it's a utopia. It's freedom.

It's just, yes. It's a utopia. No, this is a dystopia, but we're offering is relatively a utopia. Oh, no, no, I'm saying like, all of these agendas, everybody is basically extracting from the system as much as they can as it burns down. And you can't blame them. The incentives are all to do that. The Titanic is sinking and everyone's grabbing as much of the silver as they can before they jump to a life raft. This has been, I think, uh, one of my...

kind of the things that I realized this week, I think we're headed towards a collapse, and the elite are just taking everything that they want. We've been talking about on this show for years. You've never mentioned collapse, Tim. Not once, not one time. Not once. You know what's really freaky.

You know what's really freaky. Do you guys remember on this show when I predicted years ago that the future would be an app called like Job Hunt or Jobber? And it would say, like, if you want $50, click this button. And then it would say, meet this man and collect this item and I'll show you a weird mechanical device. Tim, that was your grinder account. Indeed.

Now we're seeing. You met that man, you gave $50. I sure did. And he gave you a job of two different kinds. I got 50 bucks. That's how I met Tim, actually. My point is this. My point is this.

In the future, you'll have an app. You'll want to make money. It'll be like Uber. And it'll say, for $50, collect this item from this man and give it to this, drop it off at this address. And you'll have no idea what you're doing or why. or why and then you'll say okay you'll you'll you'll just in there a guy walk up and go are you

michael and you go yep because here's the box and you'll be like what is it no idea you go okay then you walk that tracks you you show up at a building and you say here's your box and go thanks what is it they go we don't know and then the app goes ching 50 bucks we have now seen there's a there's a have you seen this app where AI will hire humans to do our jobs it has begun it's i can i can go even darker uh there is something i don't want to use my words very carefully If you have a betting pool and I bet when Tim departs this earth, right? A bunch of people can send in crypto anonymously and they say, okay, you pick a date. And if I know that if Tim departs this earth on July 12th, I'm going to get that huge jackpot,

right? You don't know who chips in because crypto anonymity and you don't know who gets the payout because of crypto anonymity. That's what I'm saying the same thing. That's already happened. someone made it a ton of money on Polly Market because of the Ayatollah. I make money on Kalshi from the Itole. So it works kind of like crowdfunding.

A lot of people throw money for this action that they want to see happen. Yep. Let's suppose I don't like Tim or whoever else it is. And I see, wait a minute, if Tim leaves Earth July 12th, I'm going to become a millionaire, I'm going to do something about it. There was a video work. That can happen right now. There's a video, I'm not a big football guy or basketball. I'm not sure what this was, but there's a video where guy was explaining that some prominent

athlete was doing an interview after a game where he apologized for the bad spread or something because the people only cared about the wagers on the game. But back to the point you were making, there was a on Kalshi, they had a prediction market, Ayatollah out of power by a certain date. Everyone assumed that to mean that he would be dead. Right. Because the Ayatollah is not leaving voluntarily. Right. Right. However, in the contract, they said, no, it is out of power through political means or resignation not death. So I actually had purchased features contract, a contract on this, that he'd be out of power. But I'm not stupid enough to wait for the conclusion I sell when I make a profit. So when the strikes happened and the value of the S contract went up, I just sold it and took a profit. People got mad after the fact because now four, you know, four or five hours later was concluded he was dead. Therefore, anyone who had that contract at that time when the strike happened, not after the fact, wanted to get paid out for him being pulled out of office. But call she said, our contract says no. death. Right. But that would mean the inverse. That would mean that everybody who said no should have got paid out the moment he was killed. Right. Because now he can never resign or be removed from

office. Sure. What you're bringing up and the reason why Cal she does not, one of the principal reasons, allow contracts on death is for exactly what you described. Will Tim be, will Tim cast IRL end by this date? Right. And then someone puts $5 million on yes. Right. And then that person then goes to a guy says here's 50,000 in Bitcoin, make sure his show is over. Right. That's the future we have right now. And that's like five minutes from now. I'm saying it's not the future in terms of like two years or three years.

Like this technology is here. Did you see the polymarket prediction that clavicular would be the supreme leader of Iran? And some people have bought that he would. Probably is a meme. No, but if you buy it and then the market goes up, you can make money that way. Of course. I think it's going to be Mike Pence. Because you have this.

religious fanatic who hates Trump. You know, it's perfect. He plays ball, sort of. How much inside information, though, is going on with these bets? I mean, I feel like people in the administration have inside knowledge. It's been very clear. It's been very clear. Yeah, there's been a lot of suspicious activity.

So there was one account that wagered heavily, like I think it was like 20 grand, that we would have troops in Iran. Now, here's the important thing I was warning people about. Troops in Iran does not mean that Trump deploys 100,000 people. It could mean three guys. Special forces. Special forces. And now we have this Marine.

deployment. So I'm telling you, I would personally, like, I'm not telling you what to do. No, no betting, don't bet. But I'm saying, I'm going to go and say it's one for one. Like, we will have personnel, we probably already do in the ground. Once it's confirmed that this guy, he made a series of bets on U.S. military action, and he nailed it all. Here's the issue, though. Do you know what other bets he has going forward? Well, we could pull the guy's account up and look at what he's going to find it. If he's been right so far.

Apparently people said he's changed his name. I mean, people are making money with crypto, shorting the market before Trump's announcement. Of course, yeah. 10x long, 100x long. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Because it screws over the average person. I want to get involved.

I want to be friends with you, man. The average person who's trying to, you know, survive here or play these markets doesn't have a chance. It's because of all this insider trading. And they're the ones that they're taking the money from. They're shorting and longing and everything. The best return investment is going to unwontabook.com, supporting my graphic novel. I'm getting us to 15,000 a day just so give everyone a sticker. And will you, are you going to plug your only pants too?

This is interesting. That's the best ROI. This is the alleged account. Now I'm going to say this. I don't know who this person is. I don't know if they're an insider. I don't know what how. So one thing that's important to say is you could sell these positions before the conclusion.

A lot of the money that this guy is making or lady may actually just be speculation. Sure. I think this is going to go in. As soon as news happens. What's the active ones though? Click on active. Active or all, it's nothing. It's a hundred bucks here and there. Okay. So you've got will, will the U.S. strike three countries in February of 26? That's passed. Okay. So he lost a grand on that one. Okay. And Mark Kelly winning the 20. Mark Kelly has a better shot than people think.

I agree. And what's going to happen is he's this guy's got 34,000 shares. Wait a minute. Wait, hold on. I got to say one thing. Wow. Mark Kelly officially is getting my endorsement for the Democratic nominee because I want to see Gabby Giff this first lady. You were right about the Fetterman. And I was right about Biden as the nominee. But look at this. I want Gabby Gavri, they're no one else. I did not like guns because potato. This is very important. He bought Mark Kelly to win the nomination at 2.7 cents. News is going to come out when Mark Kelly announces he's running. It's going to spike. It's going to spike to 15.15 cents. And you sell it. And boom. He's got 34,000 shares. He's cashing out. Bang. This guy is up one.

$106,000 this month. But if you look at most of the trades he's made that have concluded successfully, Kamani out as Supreme Leader by February 28th, jackpot, $55,000 promise. That is count that if he's dead, he counts as... On the market, yes, call you no. Got it, okay. Israel strikes Iran by February 28th. He made $17,000.

Wow. So these concluded. Yeah. These were bets that concluded on that day. And he won. Are there any lost? Can you scroll down? They're all winners.

All wins. Wow. I do believe he does have losses, but all of his most recent ones appear to be that this person knows what is going on. Now imagine what's happening. Or at least is predicting very accurately. Now, I want to stress this. This guy might just work for the economist. You know it's Ian, right?

It's a guy. He's got to be in the bowl. He's got a sunglasses on his top head. He's like, he's getting rich. But I want to stress this. This could be a person who works for the economist, right? or who works for a private Intel firm. Meaning they don't know what the government is doing,

but they have a bunch of sources. Wait, wait. What if it's Epstein? I'm just seen that. I'm like Jeffrey Epstein and Tel Avivine. Literally like Epstein and Tel Avivis. Wait, can we talk about this quickly? I hear this a lot online.

Luke, you're the guy to go to for this. What is the evidence and how likely to think it is that Epstein literally is still alive? I mean, I think it's great. I think it's very overwhelming now. All the emails we got, all the disclosures we got with more. and more inconsistencies of the official version of the prostrate. With the 4chan post, with the description of the male genitalia also.

Can you explain this? In the autopsy as well. But to stay on topic here, to connect the dots here as well, there's also a lot of accusations of insider trading. Sure, sure. So, especially with 9-11. It's not insider trading, but finish your point. No, no, no, no. I'm talking about how on 9-11 they did insider trading and rich out of it.

And I think this is why the files. around 9-11 with the Epstein documents aren't released. So if you look at all the files, right, we have their names, but the files go missing before 9-11, during 9-11, after 9-11. And I think that is possibly because of potential insider trading that was happening. That could have been Epstein.

So I'll say this, Michael, to the point about insider trading and all the stuff, functionally, it's not insider trading. There is a really interesting phenomenon that I challenge for these markets because there's currently a bet on Kalshi about whether I go to a press briefing. Okay. If I tell Robbie, I actually am going to go, please tell me. I'm not selling those contracts. Right. So inside of trading functionally has meant. It's not the same. It's not like stocks. Right. Someone who is selling those stocks or has control of the company had in knowledge the public did not have. But if someone else wants to sell contracts on my or anyone else's behavior,

you can't make me an insider. Okay. I definitely have a contract out on Tim. I'm going to be rich. Depends on you. I'm going to be rich, baby. Which to go to the, well, Yeah, to go to the White House. Yeah, see. What I will say is this. To sort of pull back a little bit on these theories about insider trading, I got to be honest, I think I could make more money than this guy if I were to actively try to polymarket just by reading the news every day the way I do.

We have made on this show many bad predictions, but many more good predictions. Okay. And it's because they're decently vague. Sure. So, for instance, I bought $300 that Kamani would be out under the assumption it meant dead. Right. I did not know it meant removed. Otherwise, I'd never would have bought it.

Right, right. Then when the strikes happened, I was like, we all saw this coming a mile away. So I just sold it a profit because I want to EV cash out. I don't want to wait. Sure, sure. When news broke that Donald Trump had a detransitioner at the state of the union, I bought a contract that Trump would say the word transgender. The moment he said the person's name, I sold it a profit, and then he never said the word. So all in all, I think I'm up like 500 bucks doing this prediction market things, which I don't

reckon anybody do this. This is small amounts of money I'm doing kind of her funds to try it out. My point is everyone's saying it's an insider, but I'm going to be honest, I bet with your knowledge of news and foreign affairs, if you were looking through contracts to buy in polymarket, you'd probably clear a hundred grand in a month. Because that's the other thing. The thing doesn't have to happen for you to win. You can just sell it at a better position.

And I do want to remind people at home because I get T-Semeth all the time on your show. I bet Roseanne Barr that they were going to cancel the 2020 election and she was incorrect. That they wouldn't. That they would cancel it. No, no. She was betting that they would cancel it. I said they were not going to cancel it. Which is an easy bet.

And then people were like, well, Kamal is the nominee so the election doesn't count. It's like, okay, great. Why? I don't remember their logic. It's not legitimate. Like, that's nice. It makes no sense. Anyway, she was wrong.

And she admitted she was wrong. And she paid me out. Nice. Good. So tell me that's what evidence to have the Epstein. But hold on, hold on. What about the military tribunal bet? We call that a wash because her argument was there we mass arrests of child herders. I don't know what the word is.

And I said no. And there was like an arrest like 15 of them. I'm like, okay. Yes. The one thing that we actually did. Right. But it's not the numbers that she was saying, but it's not nothing. So I felt comfortable.

We call it a wash. There's also a lot of other bigger players that do huge bets and then they delete their accounts. They do another name, another account. And then a lot of them are very suspicious, especially when it comes. to things like crypto and- Who is this Ronald Trump? Who is the Toronto dump account?

I thought of that could be. Mike, were you friends with John McAfee by chance? I was not, but I interviewed his biographer on my show. He's got him to know him a little bit. Bro, look at this.

I'm new. I know. Look at the sports better on Polly Market. This is incredible. This guy in the last month has made $2.3 million. All on sports, though. Sports betting.

All right. But here's the thing. A lot of losses. of losses in the active market, but these are active, meaning he could sell at a loss whenever he wants. His closed positions are for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Well, a lot of sports books won't take that much action, so that's what he's on here. Because it's a direct wager against other people, essentially. I don't know what Mickey Mace hits me up.

I have a theory. I have an AI theory for you, Michael. Let's, I think we had a story pulled up. You're not going to let Luke give me the, are you trying to cover this up? I asked him what, there's a lot. There's a lot. There's a lot. I'll lay it all out for he's alive.

Okay, I want to hear the evidence. I'm not saying he's not. I want to hear what the people are based on. First, we have new information on the female guard that she received strange sums of money. 500, right. The bank flagged. The bank flag that is suspicious

because she was sprinkling it into her account. Can I say the joke I said on Fox? So she was Googling Jeffrey Epstein minutes before they found his body. And I said, I sure hope she's not Googling Fauci or Trump or Fauci or J.D. Vance or Fauci or Mitch McConnell or Fauci. got mad of you? They did not. But one woman in the audience clipped in a boomer. She's like,

I can't be making jokes like this when President Trump was shot. I'm like, yeah, great work, lady. Let me give the evidence. Let me give the evidence. Great work. I believe that there is a great, a great probability. I don't know the number is that Epstein's actually alive. And I didn't use to think this. It's very conspiratorial. But I believe the latest information that we have actually suggest this. So there's a few things. This woman receives strange sums of money. She was Googling Epstein minutes before he was found dead. The cameras are turned off. They both fall asleep. They both get in trouble. Something about what they were doing does not make sense. Correct. The workers at the at the jail, it is now a fact. They stuffed a body bag full of boxes

and pillows and the videos we have of the body being brought out is confirmed by mainstream reporting to have been a fake body for the purpose of dissuading the press from following the actual convoy. Wait, David, can we pull that up? I would love to see that. Yep. Yep, that's one of many things. Additionally. This is why I talk to people like Luke so that they can do the homework for me. The FBI investigated the other security guard, or I should say this, wipe that. The FBI investigated a series of 4chan posts where someone before Epstein was known to have been dead said, people came in. I believe they swapped him out. When the FBI investigated this and it was released in the Epstein files, we don't have any smoking gun that literally says the Epstein files has concluded this poster is the guard.

Sure. But in the evidence stack, the guards, bank accounts, and personal information is connected. to the case, indicating to many people that the FBI traced the evidence to figure it out, and the IP addresses led them to this guy. Yeah, U.S. Attorney General Jeffrey Berman of the SDNUI opened up a grand jury proceeding a subpoenaed 4chan, Apple, and AT&T, and Citibank for records aiming to uncover the identity of this anonymous 4chan post that talked about Epstein's bodies being swiped out. Oh, wow.

Here's the son. Here's the son. Where was the body? Epstein jail staff took fake body. out of prison to trick world's media after Pito's death shock files claim. Wow. So there's numerous reports about this. And my understanding is it is, for the most part, widely reported in the Epstein files.

That's what they did. Yeah, can you scroll down a little? The reason why they did it apparently, the son's not particularly. Well, here's the, let me zoom in for you. So this is from an interview. Blank, so unknown was with Epstein's body and secured the scene. Redacted remained with COs and redacted and redacted until person off the office chief medical examiner. arrived to transport absent the facility due to the large news media presence.

A male OCME official called and said, he'd be arriving at the loading dock with a black vehicle in order to thwart the media, redacted, redacted, and redacted, used boxes and sheets to create what appeared to be a human body, which was put into the white OcME vehicle, which the press followed, allowing the black vehicle to depart, unnoticed with Epstein's body. Now, hold on. The press was already at the hospital where Epstein was being brought in.

And many people have pointed out that the man who was wheeled in did not look like Epstein. His nose is a different shape. his ears are a different shape. It looks to be just some old guy who kind of looks like him. When you look at those photos, I would argue it does seem suspicious. The argument has largely been, even I've accepted, in the past, I said, well, look, when you die, things happen, right? With all of this additional evidence, now I call into question for this reason.

If the press was already waiting at the hospital where they knew is going to be, thwarting the media makes literally no sense. So why make a fake body and load it into a vehicle? Otherwise, even it was his real body. them fall into the hospital, would they care? But again, it makes no sense. Absolutely. Why thwart the media? Who cares? It's, oh, you're gonna see a van in the body, okay.

And the press was already there because they knew which hospital they would be bringing this person to. So I am not saying that I know for a fact or it's greater than 51% that Epstein is alive. I'm saying we have a preponderance of evidence suggesting the man is actually still alive. So I saw that thing of the prostate that he's working on polymarket to turn a profit. Yeah, which please go ahead. And then and then the male genitalia also was described differently. His nose looks different. A lot of people are speculating that Hillary Clinton's brother,

that kind of looks like that person who passed away before that, could have been the swap out here. We do not know. We do not have confirmation of this. But everything with the official version of events just doesn't add up, doesn't make sense. Multiple video cameras, not just one video camera, weren't working. The FBI allegedly deleted it. There was the first alleged suicide attempt that happened that also the video footage was deleted.

And this is where Epstein came out and said that his cellmate tried to, kill him but the media reported as Epstein tried to kill himself. Okay. So when they wrote when the DOJ released the surveillance footage and there was like a minute and a half missing and then they lied about why and then you can see the time jump. They were caught lying about this. Yeah. Then there's an orange jumpsuit scene. Right.

But that is moving towards the area. None of this has been explained. The one thing we can say for sure is the official narrative of Epstein is false. Yeah. We don't know exactly what happened. Okay. I'm gonna-Bangino said we're gonna see the video. We're gonna be convinced that Epstein killed himself through that

particular video. I'm gonna do one counterpoint when I'm gonna say one counterpoint which is if they're gonna bribe this guard which I was would not doubt at all I don't think they'd be this sloppy about it. They never even were charged with falsifying the records. Is that true? Yes. They falsified government records. Let me let me say this. There's a few theories as to what's going on in the world right now and I've entertained and it could be wrong because it's hard to know for sure. The liberal economic order was created by strong men after World War II. These guys were brutal. You got um, who was the guy who dropped the bomb? Do you remember his name?

Truman? No, no, no, the actual general who dropped the bomb. I got the Life magazine. Douglas MacArthur? Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, uh, I know you're referring to, the name escapes me too, but he, he had a very important quote afterwards. Why has nobody found the guard and tried to interview her from the, uh, who is, so, so, oh, sorry, I have, I, I forgot the guy's name.

I have the Life magazine and he's sitting there. Tibots. Tibots. Tibets. Tibits. He's smoking a cigar on the cover of the magazine. These guys were mercy. Sure. They said, we don't want to just win the war. We want to send a message. That's right. So wipe out a hundred thousand people. Yeah, yeah. So these guys created the liberal economic order and they said, we are going to police the world and put everyone else under our rules. Right. Well, they're also there up against the Soviet Union, so they have to be strong. Wealth last three generations. Sure. They say my, my speculative theory, maybe it's not high probability, is that these men have children. These children inherit the liberal economic order. Right. And they generally understand.

understand what their parents taught them. The grandchildren are now the people running a liberal economic order, and they're the third generation detached from what actually was needed to be done to make this machine work. And so this is where the third generation of wealth is falling apart. But this is the fourth generation, no?

The first generation is when you lost the wealth. But this is the fourth, because you had World War I would be the 40s, then you'd have the 70s, then you'd have like the 90s. Right, so the people running around in their 80s. But this would be three generations after that. No, no, no, no. I know there's been more than, I'm saying, The current group of people that are running it are the third generation.

There are certainly more generations after them. Okay, sure. So the boomers are the children. So you had older people running it. Then you had silent generation. And then so boomers are taking it. They don't know exactly what needed to be done. They are weak and ineffective.

So they do some of these things, but they do it rather poorly. You end up with cockamamie BS failures in all of these. Well, it's not only they do it poorly is that they're not up to the new technology. and the technology is much faster than they can keep up. Indeed, I think one of the things that caught... You couldn't have had President Trump in 2016 without Twitter. I agree. And I think what caught the machine set off guard was social media

and how quickly grassroots movements would pop up that you could not just shut down. They have tried incessantly... Oh, I got one for you, Michael. You're going to love this. Please. Maybe I'll just burn everything down while I'm at it. They have tried incessantly to keep the mainstream media as the functional narrative machine for a long time.

Of course. And it was dying and didn't work. But a meeting was had about a month ago in Florida among big executives addressing the... You mean 2026? Yes, recently. Yeah. Was had, it was a standard convention of, you know, suits and ties coming together to discuss how these big networks now enter the space we exist in.

I believe the censorship machine has not stopped. And I believe what we are going to see moving forward is, considering I've had conversation with big companies, the narrative machine is going to bounce back. I guess this this this world of free podcasting is over oh yeah and what's going to happen is big podcasters will be brought into the likes of paramount and Netflix is already doing it already it's already happening Netflix's got a podcast section and you are going to as well and what New York Times this as well indeed what we are going to see in the next three years is that the only shows that will survive are the ones that are part of network television here's another thing that they're going to do people are very into 1984 authoritarian They see what's going on in England. I think everyone watching this besides getting on Wandabook.com needs to read Brave New World because the corporate structures haven't unleashed hedonism yet. They haven't unleashed influencers who are telling everyone, look, they have. Hold on. They haven't dialed it up to 10 yet. Point being like, look, the Republicans and Democrats are both the same. The system can't work. Instead of sitting at home and pounding a desk and blah blah blah, blah, blah, civil war, go take Iowa.

This is not universal yet. This is not on CBS. On Gen Z, it is. I understand what you're saying. But when you, when you, Gen Z is gambling like crazy. They are saying exactly what you're describing. Both parties are, are screwed.

There's no point to be involved in any of this. Why don't you go on insert casino app and just gamble, gamble, gamble? Or consumable. We are absolutely seeing this. But I'm talking about stuff that alters the mind, in a literal sense. I don't think it will be drugs. Yes, it will. In the 60s.

It will be, but here's the thing. We have Soma, basically. The idea from Brave New World about drugs is because it was the, it was, it was, it was written at a time based on the, the assumptions and predictions of the technology they had. There's this really great comic from the early 1900s where it said life in the 2000s and firefighters had, they were peddling, they were flying in the air with wings and they were pedaling to flat their wings and they fought fires. Right. Because in their minds, the future was technology they had amplified. Like a faster horse. What we know now is that social media operates like a drug.

It triggers dopamine and creates addictions. I think... And her social relationships. AI and gambling are going to be exactly what you describe. But I want to say one quick thing on the other point I was making about how the future YouTube, YouTube is over. We have seen these trends already happening where it's becoming increasingly more difficult to get started on YouTube. They're raising the bar every day. Is that true?

Yes. Okay. I see it too. Okay. So for someone like me, it's really easy. I launch a new channel. I tell my followers to go there. Yeah, right.

I call Google and say monetize it. They go, done. New people, you got to get 1,000 hours, you got to get, but I want to, I want to like it this way. Remember in the 2000s with Napster and LimeWire and Kazah, you could go online and download anything. You had mega upload. Any movie you wanted to watch was free on meca upload pirated.

Kim.com. They lost control of this mechanism. Right. They got it back. Now you want to watch a movie. You go on Amazon and it's 1999 and you click the button. You could still torn things. You could, but no one does.

That's the point. And they're going to make it more and more illegal, and they're going to get a free PNs too. By all means you do, but don't be a woman, Michael. We're not talking about the exceptions. That ship has sailed. They did the name. They don't have to make it more illegal.

They just have to make it more convenient to actually download it on the above board. That's right. It's like they make it $10 now or $10 for everything. I did not know the torrenting has gone down. I thought it was still as popular as ever. No, no, absolutely not. Okay, I didn't know.

So what's going to happen. I'm not being a boomer. So, indeed, what's going to happen? with this show and with every other show is. Even right now, people have noticed it's increasingly difficult to find this stream. Right. So like on Monday, for instance, Luke said, where's, where's the link? And I said, it's live, but YouTube did not put it on our channel. Oh, wow. And this is, this has been the case for a long time. Yeah. This is what YouTube does to us. It ebbs and flows. Sometimes YouTube will censor us. Sometimes they won't. So anybody who's listening

right now from YouTube who actually likes our show, because this actually works, by the way, go into, go on to our channel and look for any lockdowns and please remove them. Yeah. Because in, I believe it was 2021, you could not Google search anything from me. Right. Any Tim Pool video, if you search for it, would come up on Facebook only, went live on this show, set it, and in real time, the ban was lifted, and you could all of a sudden find me on Google again. You used to look me up. It said conspiracy theorist and nothing else, even though I had all this work here. So I'm feeling. So here's on my YouTube channel as well. YouTube and all of these networks know it. I have, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna let you guys in a big secret, okay?

Because I talk about everything. I have already been in meetings with media executives who have outright said, corporate networks are going to start taking over the podcasts and locking everybody out. They took over blogs. I was part of the first blog movement. It was really exciting.

It was like the Wild On West. And then all of a sudden, all the blogs became corporate and monetized. For that YouTube person, if you're in there, check out we are changed on YouTube because also we're dealing with a lot of very serious horrible things. So your old videos come up. The conversation,

that I've been having for the past couple of years have escalated quite a bit. And if you take a look at YouTube, you can tell the narratives they want to happen. Oh, of course. A good example. There's a few people. I'm not going to name anybody because it's not for drama points. But there are several people who have skyrocketed in viewership lately based on certain narratives. This is because YouTube has decided that is what they want. And I'm telling you this, YouTube has decided. Wait, why wouldn't they?

Of course they do. Why is Mr. Beast? Why did they put him on the front page every single day? It's not an accident. There was a woman who... Well, there's also like a trending page, and that's... No, it's gone. Trending's gone.

Because he's promoting fake meat. There was a trending page, and all those videos are someone selected. It wasn't organic. Because the funny thing about it is you could go to the trending page and you'd see viral videos that had 200,000 views, and Timcast our episodes would have more views in less amount of time, but we'd never make it. And the first two...

I think the first three songs we released were trending massively, and then someone went to our channel and turned it off. Because our songs never trended out. And this is part and parcel of how media works for people don't know. The New York Times best sell list. They don't even pretend it's not. Oh right. It's by sales.

It's literally curated. No one knows the formula. And they just put in any order that they like. It's an advertisement, yes. Timcast is an accident. Just like in the early days of piracy and downloading, everyone started doing it. They are trying to turn the dial back and say,

I don't even think they're really mad that it happened. They're just going like, ah, a new phenomenon. Let's put a plan together. to control it. Yes. And that plan is very, very easy. You go to YouTube and say, it's called the small room shadow ban. This channel cannot be displayed to any new user after this date, which means, so what they'll do is this is hypothetical. Only users who signed up pre-2018 can find, for Luke is probably 2012. Only users who are pre-2012 can see we are changed. That way, they don't freak out if they don't get it. Anyone who joins now will never see one of his videos,

no matter what, even if they find the link and click it. But with Facebook dying out, and are the numbers going down on Facebook? Absolutely, it's all boomers. Young people don't use it. I haven't been on Facebook in several years, so. Daily wire, I went back to look,

and friends of mine are still posting? I'm like, are you like in a deserted island? What are you doing? The Daily Wire made most of its money of Facebook articles. Okay. All of these sites did. When Facebook said,

we're not going to share news articles anymore, all these companies lost tremendous amounts of money. Okay. This was the machine doing it. So for those that I see in the chat that are saying, I don't understand what you're saying. Let me make it very, very clear for you. What is happening right now is TikTok is going to start restricting bad opinions.

YouTube, Facebook, already do. These companies are going to decide, probably based on what intelligence agencies want, what the acceptable narrative is, and I assure you it's going to be pro-Israel and pro-Midlidlastern war. Just like we saw in the 2000s of Bush, though some dissent will always be allowed. then paramounts be it HBO or NBC they are going to start going to shows like ours and they're going to say you shouldn't be worrying about all the stuff you are a content creator let the businesses handle it and we will pay you a premium they will get brought into the fold and shows that were once independent will now be on the NBC Plus app or the Paramount Plus app that's exactly right and when you go on

YouTube there will be shows those podcasts will exist but the shows that the shows that that you know and love from the guy in his basement, like, for instance, Nick Fuentes is not in the fold. He's on Rumble because Rumble is allowing anybody to make content. But there's a reason why he and Alex Jones are banned from YouTube. That was a move they made a long time ago. That move is going to exacerbate, but it's going to be done mathematically and logically so that you don't get big news about a person being banned. But this is, just one thing really quick. Peek headset today said he can't wait until David Ellison takes over CNN. Larry Elson.

No, his son is doing it. Larry Elson is the father. Apologies. But this is the kind of consolidation that we're seeing here. That's terrifying. This is something that is just like a no-brainer.

Why wouldn't a group of powerful people do whatever is in their power to seize and maintain their control? Exactly. You know what really bothers? It's just human nature. You don't really bothers me? Not having a civil war?

The Jews aren't doing it. Speak for yourself. I know you are. My point is, And I'm only half joking. For a narrative about how the Jews control everything, there's on the front page of YouTube, tons of anti-Jew and anti-Israel stuff.

And I'm sitting there being like, can the Jews just actually do it? I'm kidding, by the way. It's 40 chess. Indeed, yeah. And then the argument they make is, well, this is the craziest thing. For the people who are Israel posting all the time,

I ask, how come these people are front page with millions of followers and viewers? They say, well, Israel wants it to happen. And I'm like, that's their argument? Yes. Israel is trial. The temple.

I thought the argument was Israel, everyone's waking up so Israel can't stop them anymore. No, they want everyone to hate Israel so they can build the temple. Israel, according to the messianic error requires the world to go to war against Israel. Right. So the argument they make is Israel's intentionally allowing anti-Israel content. And I'm like, so they want people to hate them. So they control the media and they're putting up the people who hate them to destroy them because they think they're going to win. So the good thing about the, uh, the good thing about, uh,

Jewish faith is at a glance you can tell how religious somebody is right yeah yeah so if you're on there because if you're on your phone on Saturday you're not religious because the Ten Commandments is on the Sabbath if you're eating pork you're not religious then there's people like Netanyahu where's the amica but he shaves and he doesn't he doesn't wear all black so there's people he allies with in the Knesset who are the hardcore ones they're the ones who would do what you're talking about Netanyahu is not one of these like Jerry Falwell types

who's like, I'm going to bring about the end times. And you can see it a glance. Ellison's Jewish. Is that sure? Yeah, he's a major supporter of the IDF. He only just bought CBS? Yeah, it's... Like, these guys couldn't have gone in a long time.

I'm not saying they should or that I want them to come. I don't see what... The moves are happening now. It didn't happen 10 years ago. I also don't see the difference in any way between the Washington Post and New York Times. They are interchangeable in terms of their worldview. Well, except one's going out of business and one's dancing along.

There's the IA paper, anyway. Right. The point is one is run by Bezos and one's run by the Solvon family. I gotta be honest. I only have one problem with the deep state and it's that they want to make everyone a gay communist. You don't like the communist part? Gotcha! I like the gay part. I'm kidding. No, but the problem with the liberal icononical is that they try to make everyone around the world gay communists. And if they didn't do that, they might actually

succeed. Well, they stopped doing it, I think, and I think they used it for their... Maybe they'll succeed. Yeah, no, seriously, if you look at the number of people who are changing their gender, it has gone down. If you look at the promotion of this ideology, it has gone down. Mainly, I think there's a culture shift, but also I think they played it as long as they could to divide and conquer people. They're moving on to the next thing now. What's the next thing? The next thing, which is...

Did you post it? No, no, no, no. I think it's meant for Muslims and Jews to be the kind of main divide and conquer. Well, listen, listen, I somewhat half-jokingly said, The left and right of the future will be anti and pro-Israel. And the reason I said that is because Anna Kasparian and Candice Owens have aligned completely. Sure. And so, but we are seeing people who are on the left and on the right now making identical YouTube videos.

Yes, but the point is you're looking at it from the internet space. And in meat space, Anna Kasparian is not like a thought leader. No, I'm looking at, I mean, she has cultural relevance. She does, but I'm saying. And I will stress. She doesn't have relevance like in the Senate. But no. She does.

What do you mean? I don't think there's like any Democratic senators who are just like, you know, I was going to be for this issue, but Anna Kasparians on the other side, so maybe I should think twice. The amount of power or relevant she has may be small, but she certainly does have cultural influence. The Young Turks do, absolutely. Sure. And with the movement coming now, and I'm telling you this right now, Netflix already launched their podcasting section. Okay. And I am literally having meetings with business execs saying all of the networks are going podcast.

Old network stuff is done. Right. So like Rachel Maddow, cooked. Sean Hedy to launch a podcast. Fox is in trouble. Fox does not have new talent nor the money to launch in this space. So Sean Hennie to launch a podcast. Anna Kasparian will have, again, I'm not going to pretend like she's Joe Rogan, but she certainly does have an amount of cultural relevance. Sure. And so does Joe. But the point is, despite what Joe's views are about Iran and he was pitching a fit quite reasonably about it, Trump still did it. Indeed. But the media machine is going to, absorb these people. Yes, no question. Maybe not. And then the Senate is going to be like, if I want to win an election, we want these people

in these positions. But here's where I disagree with you. I don't disagree with you. I remember, I think all of us are the older for remember when the Iraq war was happening. It was 24-7, every day of the New York Times headline. Obama comes in, they just forgot about it. Like I don't even know what the status of Iraq is. Sort of there was a pushback against the neocons and the hatred of the Bush.

You could not go on TV and speak ill of the war. Hold up. My point is after the war, we're not hearing updates about what Iraq is. like they don't talk about it like ever again right at a certain point this around is real stuff is going to go away I agree what I'm saying is not gonna hold not nothing ever holds sure I'm saying right now we are seeing a shift where it used to be woke versus anti-woke as the principal drivers sure it's now turned into Erica Kirk versus leave Erica Kirk alone like these are weird issues that are dominating the the viewership in podcasts

and social media videos right I will say one thing that I think is weird is that the Israel posters have it have become Kirk posters. Okay. The people who are making endless videos about Israel and the Third Temple and all the stuff and you know the Jews running things, they're now producing more and more Erica Kirk videos. You mean anti-ereka or pro-Ricca? Yes, anti.

Okay. It's really weird like by all means criticize Erica Kirk. I don't care. You can make fun of it. You can say whatever you want about her. That's my point. My point is Israel matters on the world's on the world's stage. Eric Kirk does not. And I'm not trying to be a little Erica Kirk either. I'm saying She is not a nation state that receives $2.5 billion in the U.S. government for military expenditures. Right.

But there are people who used to be like Israel's war and Gaza and the children dying. I'm like, these things are important. And now they're going, did you see Erica Kirk's leather pants? And I'm like, that is not important. Yeah, but I think you're underestimating how much, I'm not joking what to say. The internet has activated autism. And the thing with autistic people, they fixate on things. Yes.

And everything becomes true. I'm one of them. Right. It becomes filtered through that. I'm not, I'm just saying it is strange, just on the surface, that people who were talking about geopolitical affairs have shifted to talking about leather pants. I'm not saying it shouldn't have happened or it's not probable or that I didn't expect it. I'm saying it's just like, what a silly thing for a person to do. Oh, I agree with you, but also this means that we, 20, we have not had a normal election in this country since 2012.

And I don't, 2012 was normal. 2012, the election, yeah. I don't think it was normal. How was it not normal? Well, I would, I would, I suppose if. you're arguing the machine state uniparty gave us fake elections. Yes, that's what I meant. Sure.

A stabilized fake election. It was very stable. Like there were no big surprises. It wasn't like, what the f is going on? 2008 was changed and we can believe in. Remember that one? Of course, but 2016 was, 2020 was, 2024 was, I don't, I, the question is, hold on, let's just say one thing.

If Trump, when Trump goes away, is the fever going to break or are the, is the, band-aid been ripped off and we're on the road to crazy train permanently? crazy train permanently. I actually, as, as, as I think we are in a dangerous space. We were in civil strife. I think it's fair. However, I do believe that the machine state has started to kettle the, the media narratives. What do you mean kettle? To wrap around. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. The, uh, the media narratives and they're beginning to control what people can see in here. And they're, they're doing it very, very well. And why wouldn't they? And I've said this for years, the enemy class is not going down without a fight. And people like, we've got to

I'm on the ropes. I'm like, guys, they've got so many tools in their toolbox. They haven't even tried, including just mass violence and suppression. You think that they're going to win with one election. You're crazy. One theory that Luke and I both had, I described it as all the free speech they're allowing now and all of Israel posting and Kirk posting, it's leading people out into a plank. And they're saying, you're safe on that plank. You can stand right there. And then as soon as Democrats get back in power and they subpoenaed these big tech companies, the big tech companies are going to saw that plank off, they're going to fall in the water. And what's going to happen is they're going to say,

all of those videos you made explicitly broke the rules and you know it. It's just that they're getting flagged now. Right. So you would always been in violation of the rules. They've done that many before. Indeed. Yeah, now it's being promoted. Luke described it as the cheese and the rat trap.

Yes, of course. Why wouldn't they? That's why I get frustrated with people that are saying things like, oh, you know, Trump's failed us and we don't, we shouldn't vote. And I know you're not a voting guy, but people that are like, oh, yeah, I'm not going to vote. in the upcoming elections because Trump failed this, the idea that this was going to be solved in the first year of his second term,

which was interrupted by Joe Biden. Like, that was never going to be a thing. But I have to push back a little bit because, you know, there was alternative independent media during his first term that I was saying, we have to do something for free speech. He didn't do anything for it. And then he eventually got banned

from social media to the point where you couldn't even play videos of Donald Trump on YouTube. You couldn't even do that. And we were warning saying, please do something about free speech. doesn't change the culture now but he needs to do something it doesn't change it doesn't change that as the situation we're in right now just looking back and saying well this should have

happened that should have learned why you're raising your voice because it's okay because i can't get a word in edgewise today it's okay no it's talking over you except for me right now like luke right now no go ahead but the point is it doesn't it doesn't change the the calculation right now it doesn't change it at all it does because it should be a learning lesson and a stepping stone to to proper action to modify free speech, which we should be doing online more than ever. This is the number one important issue that we should be moving on. None of that can be done if the Democrats take the House and are putting bills to impeach Trump the entire.

But it could be done, right? It should be done. If there ever was an opportunity, it is now. If we can't even get a bill pass that has the most popular support, the SAVE Act. If you can't even get that pass, there is no way. There's going to be a bill that gets passed. It's executive action. It's also pressure on these companies.

It's also disclosures. It's also hearings. Executive action. It's also railing and firing. No, no, no, but this is the action plan. As soon as he's not in office anymore. This is the action plan. You take the people who did the censorship the first time around in the FBI, in the CIA,

and you put them in front of public hearings. Why did you destroy this doctor's life for saying natural immunity worked? Why did you do this? Don't ever do this again. You hold them accountable. You don't need to pass a law. You don't need to pass a law. None of that.

None of that. that can be done right now. You fire them, you prosecute them for violating the First Amendment, and then you hold them accountable, and then you make that a key issue and key component. So you can preserve free speech rights. You guys can't talk. You guys just can't keep talking at the same time.

None of that is going to change what Democrats are going to do when they get back into power. I disagree with you. I totally just. Some things will change because you only have so much political capital. The Democrats have rid of their platform that they're on. You get rid of their ability to do it again because they're soldiers, their foot soldiers,

they're still in power. They're still at the DOJ. They're still at the FBI. They're still at the CIA. You get rid of all those bad players. You hold them accountable. They're going to have to recruit and start all over them. When you say hold them accountable, what do you mean?

Take the people who censored and destroyed our lives and abused the system politically at the FBI, at the CIA that went to Facebook, that went to Twitter, and destroyed our lives and destroyed our friends' lives. And you say, you give us an explanation why do you do this? And we're going to fire you. And we're going to make sure this never happens again. That's not going to make sure that anything happens again. Okay, when I go to my chicken city and the chickens are going, I mean, do you think I care? So you're saying Trump doesn't care.

Hold on. Of course Trump doesn't care. I disagree. Because I think a lot of these people are egomaniacs. And I think one of the reasons Mitt Romney decided not to run or go in for Senate, because people kept harassing him on Twitter and calling him an A-Holl. At a certain point, some of these people who sniff their own farts, it does care if they're disgraced in the public eye.

For some of them, it's marginal. Sure, sure, sure. I'm saying in the idea that you're going to go to an unnamed. like deep state guy be like why did you go after my friend that way he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna look at you as you're saying it and he's gonna lean on and be like the chickens are barking at me again that's what I'm saying I'm saying I'm saying hold them accountable fire them you could even charge them and ask them why did they know I say hold public hearings make a big spectacle out of this like the church commission hearings that brought out and exposed how the

intel agencies were controlling um all the big media companies back in the 70s you can do that same again okay I hear what you're saying but I feel like the powers that be will just say okay caught off that appendage and bringing a new one. Yeah, well, I mean, wouldn't you say that the stuff that was done for USAID was an actual attempt to do this kind of thing? That's what Doge was an attempt to do. It was successful. And then it was cut off at the feet by Susie Willis, which wasn't good, which was horrible.

The point that I'm making is like, if there's a big change because of USAID and the and the Doge cuts couldn't make the kind of cuts, why would they be successful in if by bringing these people in front of Congress? I'll tell you why. Because there's a suspicion in politics. because you don't want to see how the sausage gets made. Right? So Governor Bogoyevich of Illinois was, there was an empty Senate seat when Obama became president, and he's like, okay, what can I get for this seat?

And this is something every governor goes through. They're like, I've got a political opportunity. How can I explain this further my agenda? And you don't blame me. He went to jail for this because he was in politic. Point being, blue pill people, when they see how this stuff happens behind the scenes, a lot of them, especially Karen, freak out,

and that makes it hard to put over the next time. All of the Biden officials that use their political power to prosecute, right-wingers should be held accountable for their actions. And you could do that on a lawful level. You could do that in a humiliation level. You could do that in a level where you just fire them and expose them. And they will not have any type of reputation left after they destroyed all of our lives.

And if they lose their ability to make a lot of money by making speeches, you can flip them to turn the guy ahead of them because they'll be like rats off a sinking ship. Exactly. I'm not convinced at this point that Trump is interested in those things. It does not be through Trump. It could be through Congress. Congress. Yeah. We have the majority now. We're not going to have it after the midterms. But hold, hold on. Even Congress, there's like one real member of Congress.

Thomas Massey. And even then, to be fair, the Senate rant Paul a little bit, but I'm, I got some more criticism. You don't have, you don't have the ability, like the, the Congressional majority was so razor thin. Sure. And we weren't going to be able to do it. But they have subcommittees. They got Clinton to testify. They could get these, they could get these deep state censorship. Zars in front of them. A year ago, I said to you, Lauren Bobart is going to ask Hillary Clinton by Frazzledrip and you called me crazy. Well, who's

crazy now? I didn't. I don't think that I called you crazy. Play the Clint? Oh, they deleted it. Oh, they got to you. They did. Listen, $7,000 in my chat. Is there video of that? Is there a video of it? Of what? Lauren Bobbert? Yes. Mouse, listen, there's

one option here. Take the black pill, give up. Don't. And allow them, and allow them to steamroll us over or fight like your life depends on it's because it does the whole point I'm making that was that was insurance life insurance with a zip file titled frazzle this is way inside the scope this is this within the scope this is within the scope mr. chairman rules that it's not with the smoke I have based on what you okay well we'll find the real video in a second yeah but not the fake

lizard one look the point that I'm making is that is people shouldn't take the black pill because that's what people are doing when they're saying, oh, well, screw it, I'm just going to give up. But that's what you just, we need to fight for free speech. We need to fight to make sure that all of those people are held accountable. And you're saying, no, they're not going to do it. No, no, I'm saying that I'm not. I'm saying that the idea that you're going to get better results by allowing Democrats to take the house in the fall is going to be. You went for Kathy Newman. What? He never said that. Are you aware of me? I never said that. You want to play the video? Let's play the video. Yeah. This is it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Are you aware of any files that were on Anthony Wiener's laptop in a folder that was titled in insurance, life insurance, with a zip file titled Frazzle? This is way outside the scope? This is way outside the scope? Is this within the scope? Mr. Chairman rules that it's not with the scope. Mr. Chairman, based on what you said in the public hearing, is this within the scope? We can go off to your record for a moment. Mr. Chairman, is this within the scope?

All the record and consult up. Yep. So this proof that's true. They went off the record. This story is they're going in a far-right conspiracy theory, which probably means it was real. We can't read it. Which, you know, I guess Michael explained.

So, yeah. It's a debunked far-right conspiracy theory that emerged in 2018, falsely alleging the existence of a video found in Anthony Wiener's laptop showing Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedine committing a horrific crime against a child. The theory is an extension of the Pizza Gate conspiracy see and has been completely discredited. You know what I was saying before?

Just like, I'm just let it all, you know, acceleration, like, whatever, let them do it. You know what I'm really, really tired of? Everything is fake. There's so little real going on in the world. That's how, it's another technique. You flood. Indeed, I know. One life preserver and everything else is water, you don't know what's what.

Exactly. And that's why I think. But just this, like the other day on X, Megan Kelly and Benchapir are just tweeting at each other. then Candice Owens chimes in and I'm like, who cares? Who, who cares? The bickering that is going on between prominent personalities is just so inane and immaterial to our lives and what needs to happen. My view is largely the machine, your government is in control, turn on American gladiators, here's 50 channels of it. But this is WWF.

Yeah, I know. That's my point. People are really invested in Hong Kong. They're starting. But now it's political figures. And that's why I believe things like... I'll just start with, look, you Caucasian over there with your shirt. Caucasian man.

I had enough of that. Yeah. Or you just start a QAnon conspiracy theory, which I think also was a major sci-off, run probably by Epstein. And other individuals meant to obfuscate the real type of legitimate crimes that were happening to get people's hope. If you don't believe in Frazzledrip, that means you're in on it. Right. Q&N was a sci-up to keep people complacent from actually doing anything. Yeah.

They were being told, don't worry, the secret intel are there to protect you and they're working on it. Yeah, Trump's going to go after the traffickers. All the people who hurt children are going to be held responsible for. Trust the plan. Master rests. Hillary Clinton's in Guantanamo Bay. Yeah, the deep state's going to be held accountable for. Michael, let me ask you, like, wouldn't you just rather...

And Graham McCain was executed in a secret tribunal. Wouldn't you just rather take the $20 million to just play ball? In what context? Well, just, you know, just say Israel's great and the war is necessary. Oh, I took the $20 million. That's why I'm here to undermine the whole show. And make you guys think... Frazzle Drip, but here's not what's watching.

They're all crazy. Here's the other point. Here's the other point. It doesn't matter that we have never accepted money. People will claim it anyway. Yeah, you're Russia. So whether you do or don't, there are people threatening to murder me because they think I'm either funded by Israel, by the deep state, or by Russia.

Yep. I was on Rogan's show, and Rogan said, okay, it's really clear that Epstein had ties with international intelligence, with Mossad or CIA, and I go, I saw him drudge. was Russia. He's like, Russia. I go, I'd never heard this before, but Drudge, which is obviously a major news organization, page had headlines, Russian involvement with Epstein files. And Rogan's like, really? He pulls it up. There's the Drudge headline. He asks AI. AI's like, okay, he tried to secure meeting with Putin to sell at Trump. He went to Russia to get hookers online. You tried to change the subject. I'm like, this was the subject. He was talking about the future of Syria and he was

talking and trying to prop up with Bill Gates's friend of the opposition in Russia as well. Oh, look, you try to change the subject from Israel. It's like, not only as everyone... Are you trying to claim Israel's not doing it? Are you deflecting right now? But at the same time, while that discussion is happening, we're missing the bigger piece of like Robert Maxwell, who literally stole American secrets, sold it to Israel,

and no one really talks about that issue at all. And that's another big issue that deserves our attention, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about this in the weeds crazy stuff that deflects from the actual legitimate. criticisms that need to be had here. And also I don't believe we got Maduro because he's going to reveal the truth about the 2020 elections. Yes. Yeah, we got Maduro because Trump needed a stable oil supply before he attacked Iran. I also think here's my tinfoil hat. I think it's perfectly

plausible that Maduro's in on it. And we sat him down. We're like, look, we're going to go in and take you out or we're going to take you out and put you out a vacation. What do you want? He's like, okay. That's the tales of an economic hitman. Is that right? Yeah. Well, Luke knows all about it. Yes. No, I interviewed the author. And I had a long extensive conversation as he, he's He talked about this super government that controls the shots internationally with the World Bank and the IMF that go to these leaders and they say, do you want the bullet? Or do you want to work with us? And a lot of them choose to work with them, sell their national resources. His book was profound.

I remember reading it as a kid. I had the honor of interviewing him about a year ago at the Bitcoin conference, oddly enough. And he says it's still going on. I asked him. I was like, did it stop? He's like, no, it expanded. And it's even more coercive. and it's even more manipulated than we even can imagine now.

I'm over here, you know, defending Israel. And I've not been invited to go on one of these pilgrimages, like a bunch of these influencers. Come on. Then why are you? You know, what am I? I got off for the trip. Did you really?

I did it? I did get offered a trip. I'm like, there's no way I'm going to do that. Why would you go that? Then why are you wearing a yarmika? Well, you can't see it, though. You did have a meeting that. You did have a meeting then Yahoo.

I did. And he lobbied us to support the war for Iran, and the room was split and didn't want to do it. people in the room were very much like dude is wild like one person looking at him and going like the American people and Gen Z need to understand the brotherly relationship

Israel and America have and why we must support each other and I'm just in there going like oh my God like look if you said something you forget we're so used to memes and troll no we forget earnest people exist who are like you just say things that are

you say things that are so insane so unironically like you how do you even talk I think we should... I don't know. As a media organization, I don't remember. I'm just trying how it goes down. Well, there were a bunch of people there, and I know it was Chatham House Rules,

which no one knows what that means. I do. I know. And people thought it meant that it was off the record in secret. When it literally meant we can explain literally everything said, just not who said it. Yeah. And then, who was it, House and Had it came in filming.

And so I was like, I guess there's no Chatham House rules, because she's like, you know, and then people posted pictures. But if you went to, if you went to, were at this meeting, like, I think there was maybe like 15 people there. Well, I orchestrated it. He did. Michael, Michael's one invited me. I mean, he's in Masa. If you were to say something like, if you were to say something like, look, America has its own interests, but Israel's allies with this is

important because we need a stable foot old in the region. For that reason, there is going to be an overlap in our agendas, which I think is mostly true. I think an average person might be like, well, that's reasonable. But if you say we have a brotherly love relationship, so we have to defend you for this ideological reason, you sound nuts. I think when you talk to religious people, I think that's a very... Indeed. They really have a very different world view than you're I. I think the important thing for everyone understand is there's several factors as to why the U.S. and Israel have this relationship.

One of which absolutely is Israel exerting influence through resources, money to try and get politicians on their side. But evangelicals in this country want the same thing the messianic Jews want with the Fourth Temple. I think evangelicals are more Zionist than Jews as a population. Probably. Yeah. We went over this some time ago, where we've been talking about the Red Heifer and all of these things.

There are American... Oh, God. There are American Christians. I haven't heard about the Red Hepper since I was in Yeshiva, like when I was six. It's been non-stop. Oh, my. It happened last year.

He was talking about it. They did it. They've been breeding these things like crazy. And so what we point out is people are like, why is America so pro-Israel? Because there are devout evangelical Americans who want Jesus to come back and very similar to what... A precondition, yes. A precondition that the Jews share for their first Messiah, Christians share for the return of their Messiah.

Not all Christians believe it's not all Jews, but there are powerful people who do, and that is just one factor. And there's also, this is a relic of the Cold War, because both the Soviet Union and the US, US recognized Israel within minutes. It was founded by hardcore socialists, although now there's like no socialist in the Israeli parliament. There's like five of them. It's got an all right wing. Point being, so this was a big kind of fight between who's going to control Israel, there. where we have football in the Middle East. We won all those Muslim countries sided much more with the Soviet Union and the Soviet Union is gone obviously, but that kind of a lot of the Roshchow's played a major role with that with the Belflare declaration.

There's some other questions for the region that I think are important to. And one is, why won't Egypt open up their border with Gaza and provide? You know why. Real quick. The other question is why are we giving billions to Egypt for military aid? And I think one important factor beyond the evangelical, and there are others, is there. that the United States, the liberal economic order, wants strong military control of the Suez and the Red Sea. Right. For which Israel provides.

And you can't blame them. Yeah. That's why Trump wants Panama. That's why he wants Greenland. And that's why Israel is so important to the U.S. military grand scheme. Because controlling global trade and policing the seas is how we maintain the petro dollar. Yes. And Alex Jones agreed with me yesterday.

How do you not agree with that? Well, there are people who say it's not true. They say that, no, we're just being blackmailed and controlled by Israel. Israel against our will. And it's like, well, listen, certainly there are influence operations from Israelis against the U.S. Absolutely. But the U.S. is not, the U.S. is basically like, listen, we must control all of the seas waterways. That means we need Turkey. Why is Turkey in NATO? The Bosphorus. That's it. We want Black Sea access to the Mediterranean. It's control of oil distribution. The other thing is, this is like when the people say all these Republican senators are bought and paid for

by the NRA. It's like really you think someone from Wyoming is pro-gun control and then the NRA gets them a suitcase. You're like, oh crap, now I'm against gun control. Like, what are you talking about? Yeah, I think it was Rubio who was a yelled at by an activist saying, you're bought and paid for by the NRA. And he was like, no, I'm pro-gun. They don't do it to my campaign because I am pro-gun. Not that way around. Yeah. I mean, I question that theory because of the kind of donor class here, because if we're really fighting for American hegemony, that's different comparatively to people just robbing the sinking ship. I think robbing the sinking ship is more of a true analogy of what's going on here. Yes, I agree. Because if we really wanted to prop up the

petrol dollar, we would make a deal with Iran. Iran was previously selling oil on the U.S. dollar system. Why? Why were they doing that? Because Obama cut a deal with them. Exactly. Did it work? Well, Trump stopped the deal. Well, Trump cut it off. But it wasn't working anyway because they were still attacking in the region. So I think it was, I can't remember what about the Bill Burr quote that it's like, should we go to war with Iran? Probably not. But no reason. Really? Like, no reason. I know that joke. Yeah, there are many reasons why we want to fight Iran. Doesn't mean we should.

But I think this is principally, the U.S. economy is propped up by the Petro Dollar by forcing other countries to use our currency. Saudi Arabia cuts a deal with us, which gives them tremendous leverage. That's why when a lot of dirty, nasty things happen from the Saudis, particularly like their couple billion in 9-11, we cover for them. Because we are scared they will get off the contract to the petro dollar as the second largest oil producer in the world. we need them to tell other countries if you want oil, it's in U.S. dollars. Yeah, but the U.S. is also like the most legitimate security guarantee. Like the Chinese had made a lot of security guarantees to Venezuela. They made a lot of security guarantees to Iran.

And the whole world has seen that you can't rely on China, no matter what China says, if they say, oh, you know, we'll help you out and stuff. But Tim, second face, are you okay? What's wrong? The top polymarket account, this is totally the realm of it, but if you want to know, $22 million in profit and the account is basically inactive. because they it insider baby no no no no who knows but Luke was mentioning that people will change their names go in they'll do something and then they'll change their names

they're so when you're copying their trades yeah that's wild sorry sorry if we're gonna derail I got one one thing to derail really quick if that's okay I've been dying to say this I know I want to add this to what malice was been sure what's been saying um on August 9th 2019 the day before Epstein died the Southern District of New York the SDNY the the federal government released a statement about Epstein's death the day before. Oh, I saw that. Right, right, right.

And they argued it was a typo. Yes. But the typo was the full date spelled out. Exactly. It was like, was it February 9th or something? February 9th. It wasn't like they went like 2-9 and I typed the wrong number in. It was spelled up Friday, February 9th or whatever, like whatever.

Exactly. Was it a real story when they just posted that on my Twitter? You saw his fortnight account? Was that real or fake? No, people could set up fake Fortnite accounts and you can't fall for everything that you're seeing out there. And there's a ton of disinformation. There's a ton of fake photos. There's a ton of AI regarding the Epstein files that are just completely not true.

I've been covering it like crazy. He wasn't doing oral with destiny? This guy lost $6.5 million this month. Damn. Wow. He's not an insight. What were you saying, Phil? He's not an insight.

He doesn't help the connections. The fact of the matter is that China wanted to be a, basically give. The guarantor. Yeah, security guarantees. And the war in Iran and the invasion of Iraq, or invasion of Iraq, or invasion of Iraq, and what's going on in Venezuela has proven that China can't be trusted. Right. And that's one of the actual benefits, one of the things that the US is really getting out of this whole thing is they're proving that China is a paper

tiger and that the rest of the world can't rely on. They're going to be like, look, you can go and build some things in Africa. And honestly, the things that they're building, they're not particularly robust like the things they build are pretty crappy. But like the rest of the world is looking at China and they're saying, do we want to go and align with China or do we want to align with the US? Right. Part of the reason why the US is, is the police of the the trade routes and stuff is because the US is a reliable actor China's not they don't have the power to do it then on the ability the US is the police

because the US is the bodyguard yeah so you can hide people don't know this if you're like a company or if you're like a country you can hire the US to basically be like if things go wrong we'll come in and kick ass for you yeah we're for sale yeah and I mean look there are people that don't like that and I get it but the US standard of living is directly attached to that like the The fact that poor people in the US are overweight, people that decide that they want to be homeless. They don't want to actually do the things necessary to have a home. They still have cell phones.

They have like, they have DoorDash accounts and stuff. Wait, wait, wait, Ian's not homeless. He just looks that way. He does. Plus our food is heavily processed, so people get there. But the point is like, our standard of living will drop significantly if the petro dollar goes on. By the way, speaking what you just said,

I had Julian Michaels on my show on this week, YouTube.com, Michael Miles official. I didn't realize, and everyone who's in Maha is laughing at me, I did not realize how, as I drink my doctor pepper, I did not realize how bad the food situation is. It's horrible. I really thought this is like, okay. No, no, no, glyphosate is great.

You go to a gas station. You look at the ingredients on, you can't get anything that's like all natural. You have to go like sprouts, whole foods. I thought a lot of this was just like, you know, hippie talk, and it's not. No, it's a eugenics operation against the American people. Like, there's no care and consideration for the American people.

That's my argument. And I think this is where some of our disagreements are, I think the elites don't give a damn about us. They just want to enslave us. I have a funny family story for everybody who has young children. So we went grocery shopping today. And at the checkout, they had these protein pastries that it was like low-carb, high-protein pop-tarts. Seed oil.

And the ingredients are just like, it may as well say cardboard. So I bought it because I was like, this sounds good. I love cardboard. Yeah. And then as we're walking out, my wife is pushing the stroller with our one-year-old. And I open it up, and it's a brown sugar cinnamon. and I take a bite. And then I was like, oh, no, no, I'm sorry. Opened up. I said, you want to try the fake Pop-Tart. And she's like, yeah, sure.

And our daughter's looking at it. She bites it, hands it to me. I bite it. And then she just starts wailing. Like the craziest cry, like, you're having food and you wouldn't give me any. And I was like, the problem is it's not food. And I can't explain this to her. Right. She's a food. The ingredients are like erythritol and like processed protein. And cinnamon. Kids don't like cinnamon. You gave her to a food critic. I told my wife was like if it was real food, we'd give her some, but it's not. And then she was like, why did you buy this? And I was like, I don't know.

This reminds me a funny story. When I was like three or four, my grandma would go me home. And I didn't know how to read. And she was Russian. And I'd want her to get me the red tic tic-tacks because they're cherry. Red's cherry. And she's like, you don't like these. I'm like, yeah, yeah, blah.

And she'd get me there. But I put in my mouth like it's on fire. And I think this happened like three times. Like, I would just like, I want the red ones. She's like, it's not good. And then you take it and go. Yeah, because cinnamon when you're a kid, it's a nightmare. Well, but like light cinnamon and a cake is good.

But again, when you're four, eating a cinnamon candy is not, especially when you think it's going to be cherry. You know, Reagan, I read Reagan's autobiography. The two things I remember, one's not important, but the second one is also not important. It's funny, which is he never liked tomatoes because when he was a kid, he bit into one thinking he was an apple and it traumatized him so much. He never ate tomatoes again.

Well, Scientologists call that an aberration. Oh, okay. And this is the doorway they bring people into Scientology. This is one of the key examples they use to convince people that their ideology is correct, is that they'll say, is there something in your life that you know to be irrational, but you retain perhaps an aversion to a food? They literally describe it as, you may not want to eat eggs because as a child, you ate one egg, but it turned out to be rotten.

And now you don't want eating eggs. You have an aberration because you know eggs are actually a normal food. Everyone eats, but you have an aversion to them because of one instance. Then they say, our program will cure you of these aberrations. And maybe they will, I don't know, but that's basically... Wait, I got to ask Lou, because I know Luke has receipts on this, and I know this has been well established. There are strong links between the CIA and Scientology, correct?

Yes, and the Mormon community as well. But really the Mormons? Yeah. Not since the beginning, though. Okay. Can you explain that? Well, if you look at a lot of the kind of intelligence agencies, they have one kind of overall general kind of theme,

and they usually like to work with Mormons. Yeah, a lot of kind ofs here. But the Scientology link also is the... theorized a lot on the... Okay, okay. Malas, I have a question for you. I find Thomas Massey to be one of the most genuine guys,

non-corrupt politicians. Why is Trump going after him? Because he doesn't kiss his ass. Well, I'm sorry. I will agree with you in the most part. Going on CNN and saying Trump's a racist, that's not genuine. Okay, I didn't see that.

Yeah, he did that. So that I was like, it's funny because I tweet about it and everyone's like, okay, rare L for Thomas. He said Trump was racist? He said Trump should apologize to the Obama's for using racist tropes. Oh, over the monkey thing? Yes.

Oh, that's not good. I will say this with Thomas Massey. I've been very critical of him a lot. However, I do think he has a tremendous amount of integrity. Sure. And that's what I gave him credit for. That's what I was asking. Because Trump thinks I'm the president and all these Republicans are there because of me.

So how dare you not fall in line and basically act like you're the president? That's Trump's perspective. Basically, there's no Republican majority because of Massey. That's another one. And that's why a lot of people are really mad at him. But also, he's embarrassing Trump by being like, this bill is insane. it's huge and you were supposed to balance the budget or at least cut spending. He's like, what are you talking about?

And like, he's blowing up Trump's spot. Well, the Epstein stuff as well. A lot of the Epstein connected people are financing his opponent. Yeah. That guy they brought on stage, everyone's ragged on. Even Nick Sorda was ragged on them. And they were like, you're not MAGA anymore. It's like, guys, I don't care if I'm MAGA or not MAGA or whatever.

Like, I like Thomas Messi. I like Rokana. I disagree with them both a lot. I disagree with Rokana a lot more. Sure. But Rokana has been very. nice and respectful despite being wrong and he probably thinks I'm wrong and that's the way it's supposed to be in this country yeah I don't like him supposed to is a blue pill term he's

well my my sure my my point is we should be able to sit down and debate each other and function as a society and we don't have to agree on everything that's fair and I i said this to row that his worldview is based upon being the child of immigrants so he sees the benefits of immigration through that lens and I as an american see the inverse and think he's wrong I'm an immigrant And I think he's wrong. Indeed. Because, well, you know, I'm saying in his worldview, he's pointed in that direction.

Rokane has been really nice, but he's got terrible, terrible ideas. Of course, so is Fetterman. Like, I understand that I will not agree with everybody all the time. And there are staunch concerns I don't agree with, but we get along. As long as we agree on what's true. Like, if we get agree on what's true and then argue at the fact. If you don't agree with true, if someone's amiable and is having a decent conversation, it's perfectly fine.

I find to be that the overwhelming majority of Democrats are not. They lie, cheat, and steal. They play dirty games to win... What's the millennial woes quote? They pretend not to understand things to make discourse impossible. Yeah, that's all it is. Did you see the latest meme?

It was like a recursion meme where someone said something, a leftist countered. They responded with the millennial woes meme, and then the person responded with, I still don't understand your point. So it was like, the new one I saw online,

is that the Save Act, in order to prove your identity to vote, you can't use your marriage license, because your marriage license doesn't match your name on your birth certificate. And even if that were true, who has ever used their marriage license to establish their identity? Nobody. Like, what are you talking about? But they're repeating this.

Well, yeah, they're just lying. They're also saying the ID doesn't count. But it doesn't make sense even on their own terms. Let's suppose that is true. Who cares? That, that, the other point they make is like, oh, it's impossible for people in cities to get driver's licenses because the tests are on risk. That's nice. Get a Walker ID like I have.

You don't need any test for that. Like you're just lying. That's the term, yeah. Really? I just call them ID. I don't know. I think you can drive now. Nope.

I'm still spiting the internet. Well, yeah, I actually think the response is exactly said, and. When they're like, yeah, but what if a woman who's got a maiden name is changed? I go, uh-huh. You're like, well, what about it? I'm like, what if you can't vote? I'm like, shalt to figure out, I guess. Good luck.

It's nonsensical. And they know it's not sensible. Malice, the passenger princess. And a pillow princess, too. There's a question from Grock for you. With AI exploding right now. What? Do you think decentralized open source and intelligence?

Can I talk to robots now? Can I tell a Lex story? Can I tell a Lex story? You can tell a Lex story. Okay, I was sitting talking to the head of podcast one. I hired Krishna just walking by. I'd seen his 50s. He stops me and goes, oh, aren't you on a podcast?

And whenever people spot me and they don't know my name, I always say I'm Lex Friedman. So we have a nice conversation, blah, blah, blah. He leaves, his underling comes back, like 10 minutes later, goes, you just met, you know, my guru, he said. I go, yeah, he goes, can you. He goes, can you interview him? And I go, no, like, kind of nastily. And he walked away. So Lex is going to have a lot of really bad karma today

because all the Harry Christian is going to be praying for him to become a lizard. Which I guess might be an upgrade from a robot. Well, they're big on karma. That's why they're vegans. They don't kill even insects or some extreme versions. So that's their theory is like, be kind because you're going to report or something better.

Yeah, I have months. I knew a Harry Christian guy. He was very nice. He gave me a bunch of free stuff. Yeah. Like free food and stuff. Yeah, yeah. That's how they recruit you.

Yeah. Probably Wall Street. Well, he wouldn't try to recruit us. You don't know that. I mean, yeah, maybe. He's laying the groundwork. Right, for sure, for sure. We got me and my friends got to go have a free meal and hang out and he's super chill and it was a lot of fun.

It's a very, I like, I like Buddhism because it's a very, in many ways, calming, centering, like, calm down. Meditative, yeah, philosophy. Do you meditate? No. I can't handle calmness. Like a Zen, Zen garden. Breathworks incredible. A Zen garden from East Hell on Earth.

Are you familiar with the Apple visualization meme? Of course. I call it a meme, but I'm yeah, the concept, yeah. Let's pull this one up, because we'll talk about the philosophical and NPC and all that stuff. Sure, let's do it. Don't you think people should go to Unwantedbook.com and buy my graphic novel? I do. What's your opinion on people who drive with their windows up with a mask on by themselves?

I mean, I'm an anarchist, so anything that's peaceful, right? So what number would you give yourself, Michael? I'm clearly a one. You're clearly a one. Luke, what do you think? One. Phil. One, yeah. No, they're not asking about looks, Phil. They want to know about this meme.

Listen, I'm extremely attractive. A number two. Extremely attractive. Wait, seriously? Are you sure? I don't know. I haven't even, I just... Oh, why?

Do you picture an apple? Do you see a photo realistic apple? Yes. A flat two-dimensional apple, a black and white? Close your eyes. Imagine an orange. Let's ask him an orange. Yeah, orange.

Describe the orange. Is it like a picture of an orange or a photograph? It's a photograph. Okay. You want to know what I just thought of as soon you said that? Israel? No, it was you standing on this table, juggle. oranges. Okay. There you go. Like I just was like... You're a juggler. Everyone who knows that a skateboard also knows that a juggle. I can juggle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whenever I think of like the apple. I actually learned how to do this. Like I can do like two juggles. I can do the basic one everyone can do. But there's another one that I learned. I forgot what it was. I forgot what it was another one that's the ball to your hand and then up and then up and then up and then over. I can't do that one. But there's two that I can do. Where it's like you throw it and then wrap it around or something. Okay. Whenever I think of the apple, I always think of like the shine and I think of where the light is actually shine. Oh, okay. Are you an artist?

I mean, I'm a musician. No, but I mean like visual artist, because that's the artistic brain. I wanted to draw when I was a kid, but I didn't ever thought that I was very good at it. It sounds like you're seeing it like an artist. Now there's, yeah, I, I always see like the light. For some reason, whenever I pictured, I always, I think of it kind of like the way the universal. Okay. Earth moves and I kind of see it moving through my head and like the shine.

There's more though. This is an incomplete picture of cognitive function. Okay. Alongside this, when you, when you think, Michael, do you hear words in your head? Yes. Can you see text in your head at the same time? can but I don't. So there's there's actually multiple tracks and this is just one of them. So aside from being able to visualize the apple at level one and see the photo real estate

apple in your head, there are people who could simultaneously imagine the apple in their head while it rotates splits in half, splits in half, opens up the seats inside while they're listening to a song in their head while they're planning the rest of their day and seeing a seeing words. Yeah, it's called being high. Sure. Being in. But we're you know you were talking before the show about the NPC meme. And then we mentioned the philosophical zombie and we were talking about AI and stuff. That's why I brought this up. I thought it'd be interesting to have a conversation around that. Well, it's, I think I was just talking about this with the trigonometer guys. In the same way that I think all of us, if there's a concept one of us had, we could explain it to the others. Maybe you'd have

some questions, but you'd be able to explain it. But we sat down with a nuclear physicist, like it would be just gibberish and maybe we'll understand it their analogies, but we're not going to get it like they do. Yeah. People understand that. But there's someone who's Dumber than you and they don't process information like on sitcoms where they know fewer facts or just take slower They literally perceive data differently than you do as a good example is when they read Instead of seeing sentences, they just see words as a soup and they reconnect them the first time I noticed this I was doing a talk and I met this girl who's writing at the time for Jezebel and she's like who you and I tell her I'm like oh You know Harvey Picar's writing a book about me and it goes oh didn't he die he's yes okay her boyfriend's

sits down and she immediately says, this is one minute later, this is Michael, Harvey Pekard died and then Michael wrote a book about him. So she was taking the nouns and verbs and her brain reconnected. And it's not like she couldn't hear me, it's not like she wasn't like a complete simpleton. I'm like, and you see this all the time on social media. Indeed. And they're not faking it. So there was this. One more example. My buddy Tom Woods, his Twitter, his Twitter, I was best man his wedding. His Twitter bio says New York Times bestselling author. Someone came after him goes, you write for the New York Times. So of course you're going to have this opinion,

because they saw those words and they didn't process them like a normal person would. When I was a teenager, my parents had been telling me I should plan for college, figure out where I wanted to go. And I read an article from an economist who I think he worked for the Bush administration or Clinton, I can't remember which one.

And it's a story I've told them this show where he said something to the effect of, if you went to an investor and said, for $40,000, after four years, you will owe me $40,000 plus interest? Do you think the investor would take that deal? They're going to absolutely not. and that's what we're telling everyone to go into college for.

That was the basis by which I said, this doesn't make much sense. He elaborated by saying that if you started at 18 years old working at McDonald's, after four years, on average, people find themselves as shift supervisors or sometimes assistant managers, and you will have saved on average $10,000, whereas the college grad will get out after four years with nothing.

On top of that, so that's usually where I stop and tell the story. But he wanted to say additionally that college, the problem with college is that in order to actually thrive, your IQ needs to be in excess of, 110. Unfortunately, we are telling people with IQs ranging from 95 to 105. And what happens is they may memorize words that you ask them to, but their brains can't process the connections between the data. So this is the midwits. And here's the other thing. Like the name of my show is you're

welcome. And they'll say it's misspelled because you're welcome as why you apostrophe. Because they know the rules, but they don't know the context of the rules or why the rules are there. So if I really want to hit him hard, I could be like a proper noun, which is a show title, cannot be misspelled. If your name Tim is spelled with four M's and I spell with one M, I'm misspelling it. Indeed. Because Tim, correct. But then I say, this is your welcome to embarrass yourself in public. And they still don't get it.

Because all they do as a computer is apply the rule, not understanding why that rule exists, or that's meant to further communication. And then they go vote. So let me tell you why I'm in favor of the Save Act. When Dick Durbin goes, well, it's going to make it very hard for people to register to vote because sometimes, you know, your ID doesn't qualify. I say, stop. you had me yet it's going to make it harder to vote thank you and have a nice day so what the

democrats rely on is that people who are either incapable of registering to vote or disinterested in voting in general are made to vote there's two ways to do it the the expansion of course was universal mail and voting right before this it was like rock the vote which i actually did when i was 21 i went to uh it wasn't rock the it might have been it was rocked the vote yes so i went to a death camp for cuttee concert i was given so they were my favorite band at the time and there's still my favorites but I don't know what was it any here you said death cap for Qie okay oh yeah okay so I worked I was a not profit fundraising they said who wants to go and do a voter drive at the death cab concert and I went what and they were like yeah the death cap for cutty concert in

Chicago we want someone to go register people to vote and I was like done and they gave me a pass and I didn't even realize was all access until after they gave it to me and it was one of those leg sticker all access and so I was like absolutely I got to meet the band it was very cool and all I had to do was walk around registering people who didn't know or care to vote right then those people who don't know or care about what's going on the world will be told to go vote and they'll go, oh yeah, sure, I guess.

I think the bare minimum we can do is make it so that you have to at least get up and go do it. No shit. That's why I think the safe act is good. But I think you underestimate how left wing this country is. No, no, no, no. I understand that it's not not going to save everything. I'm just saying it's a little better.

Sure. A little better. But we see what happens? Because the people who can't, what is it, like 30% people have no intermodal Is it that... I thought it's 30% people don't have a sense of humor or can't receive humor. Let's find the actual number.

That was Scott Adams' point. While you look up this point, going back to my point of the guy driving in his car, the mask on with the windows up, do you think those people are real? Is it part of the simulation messing with us? Do you want to get into the mechanical elves, all that stuff? I mean, sure.

30 to 50%. So the theory is... We were talking about NPC, so I thought I'd bring it up. Yeah, and if I took a photograph of you, right, and I held it right on my desk, my desk this is a 2d representation of a 3d person right so you're in two places at once you're in the photo and then you're here in meet space so the theory is this is a 3d representation of a 4d space which we can't

perceive just that photograph can't perceive you right well then you can perceive the photograph and some of the quote-unquote people around us aren't there in 40 I agree bro so they literally don't exist what they're messing only on average People, so the idea of an inner monologue is not black or white. Some people... I thought it's just a white thing. Yeah, yeah, sure.

It is not zero or one. They say that... Oh, okay. Interspeech occurs 25% of the time on average across people. Okay. With 5% to 10% never experiencing an inner monologue. This means that they say... It is interpreted as 30% to 50% regularly not having an inter monologue.

because of the bell curve. Basically, there are people who always do experience it, and there are people who never do, but most people experience it only about 25% of the time. 51% of the population has no inner monologue because they're incapable of shutting the F up

and they're called women. That's correct. Do people that, like, if you talk to yourself, because usually I find myself, I'll be thinking things and I'm, you know, thinking the words and stuff. I've talked to myself. A lot of times I'll just be walking around,

you're like... If you're by yourself in your house, you talk out loud, don't you? Sometimes. I don't talk loudly. No, like you're kind of muttering, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I feel like that was kind of...

You never do that? I don't talk out loud. That'd be like an outer model. There's no time you shut up. You're always talking. You're talking when you're asleep. I don't... I'm just thinking words in my head, I guess. My friend, Tibby, who was on cash cab with me, the funny story.

She was in a deli and she's looking at the watermelon, and she says out loud, just realize she goes, like, $20 for watermelon. And she really said out loud and then in a louder voice, she goes, fine, let them think I'm crazy. I don't care. You're on cash cab? I was. Randomly? We, no, it's never random.

We have only a few minutes left because we're having so much fun. I got to get these rumble rancet and super chats, so we're trying to get as many as we can. Smash the like button, share the show. Are you going to tell them to buy my graphic novel? You will. How much does you win on Cash Cut? You have to watch it. Methos says, hey Michael, so do you talk to cops now?

I always talk to cops because at any moment, if they're in a bad mood, they can throw me in the back of the car. So I'm always very polite, respectful when I see them on the street. I've been stopped here in Austin repeatedly. Huh? Yeah. You don't drive even stopped. No, because they're fans. They're like, hey, blah, blah, blah.

Bazuca, really? Yes. Bazooka Guru says, so I just tuned in, but people on actress saying Netanyahu is dead. Anyway, a long-time listener and first-time commenter. Love you guys. Probably just whack-a-loon nonsense, I'm sorry to say. Anna Kasparian tweeted, wait, is Netanyahu dead yet? Okay, great.

Yeah. Same old man says Tim, malice is right. The Republicans do not have the Senate. The GOP has it, and they are composed of reps, Dems, and Libertarians. Fair point. Let's see what we got here. DeAnda says, Tim, Fox got the ruthless podcast for their podcast space late last year. Indeed, they did.

They also hired Brett Cooper as a... A fox hired for Cooper? A while ago. Oh, wow. I don't know. Yeah, so ruthless, they bring in periodically. The thing about Fox is, I'm going to let you guys in on all the inside of as well. As I've heard, I know if it's true, but the scuttle butt from the, from the buyers is that Fox is broke.

They can't afford to get into the space. They are interested and they're shopping around, but they don't have the resources of CBS. I don't believe that for a second. I can prove that's not true. Murdoch has deep pockets, but they did get rid of their number one new show, Tucker Carlson. There are other venues by which Murdoch is approaching this, but Fox is a different company. There are many Murdoch company. The Fox viewer is insanely loyal.

They watch Fox an average of 25 hours a day. They are 80 years old. But they buy stuff. Fine. My point is they're not broke. I don't believe it. How much that was that Dominion thing that they paid out? It was a billion, $2 billion?

This is a couple of billion. Right, right, but hold on, hold on. We got to clarify here. They are relatively low budget compared to everyone else. True. I'm not saying they're about to go to business. Sure, when you said broke. My point was they don't have the money to invest in this space the way other people do.

They are constrained. But I think also their model. Like CBS is swimming. Their model is because they have their, they, they, their models like Vince McMahon's model of the WWF. They have their stable, like for Fox people to do non-Fx shows, like, Like when Kat was on your show, it's an ask. It's not something automatic. Because their idea is, if you want to watch a Fox personality, you have to watch them on Fox News.

And it's a model that somewhat works for them and makes a lot of sense. All right. Let's see. The Yeti says, Tim, ask anyone who says they can't visualize or that they don't have an inner voice if they dream or if they can count down from 10 in their head. Everyone has an inner voice and can visualize. Incorrect. That's the point. Some people can't.

Can I say one more thing? Whenever people say everyone, I leave the conversation. Because if there's one thing I'm against, it's this idea of universalism that we're all basically wired the same. And if you think about it for two seconds, you realize how ridiculous it is. Well, I don't want to say this to be mean. You're an idiot. I hate you. Sure. Michael, you're familiar with the orders of thinking?

Of course, yes. And so low-order thinking can't understand that the way an individual experience of the world is different from someone else. Right. So higher cognitive function individuals recognize that the easiest example is, what I see as the color red, you may see as green, but because we both looked at the same thing and said red, we identified in the same way. Now, I guess they've scientifically proven

that's not correct because of brain scans or whatever. But, and now they could actually, did you see the mind reading device they have? No. They put EEGs on people's brains and made them watch videos and then recreated from their brainwaves what they were seeing.

That was a few years ago. It was a few years ago. It was rudimentary, but you could see silhouettes and like, you could see like a road and like a creepy stuff. But anyway, Right, not everyone can.

In fact, I will stress this. When it comes to cognitive function, as I already mentioned, the multi-track mind, there is visual, there's visual processing in your mind, there's auditory processing, and then there's combinations of the both at the same time. In fact, there are individuals who can simultaneously visualize two different things simultaneously while, I'm going to put it like this. There are people who can imagine an apple in their head spinning around while replaying an event from. earlier in their day while planning what they're going to do later in their day and remembering what was happening in a book i got a funny story so when i was doing my research for my north korean book a dear reader they're talking about kim jang yil and kim jang yel's at a conference and there's a speaker and he's signing bills and his assistance you know interrupting him to ask questions about

legislation and kim jing the speaker stops and the dealer says why he's stopping goes oh you're doing all those things and kim jem jemil goes no no no no no i look at time not as a plane but as a cube. And from that point on, they realized Kim Jong-il can shrink time. And my friend goes, and my friend goes, do they mean multitasking? And yes, that's what they meant. So according to North Korean propaganda, only Kim Jong-Yil, North Korea knows how did multitasking. It's fascinating, but that's exactly what you were talking about. You could do three things. I could listen and read at the same time. Oh my God. This guy better leave the country. Some people can barely do one of those things. Correct. Yeah. You know, they vote.

I don't think even if they didn't vote I don't think it would be that much better Will you go to Pin Yang? Pyongyang? Pyongyang? I didn't hear what you said. Would you go to North Korea?

I've been. You've never been? He's never been. I want it. I mean, Rodman was my hero for going for a long time. Why would he be a hero for going? Because he had better relationship

than we did at the time. That's true. Okay. I was told that I could go because I'm viewed as a curiosity to the Korean people. Because you're a mix? So how was your stay there?

I wrote an article about it for reasons. They're very racially supremacist. They're the most racist country in Earth. Yeah, so I was told by a 100% Korean, they were like, like, did you ever consider going to North Korea? And I was like, I'd love to go. But can I? And they're like, oh, you'd get in in two seconds, like that, very easily.

Correct, it's just illegal for Americans. They'd ask you a bunch, it's what? It's illegal now for Americans. Right, right, right, right. After your article, you probably get in trouble, right? No, I wouldn't. Because I'm a savage, so they only care about Koreans who betray them. They what?

They only care about Koreans who betray them, like refugees. refugees, but I'm a savage to them. They don't care. So what I was explained to me is they would ask me a million questions about who in my family was Korean, where did they come from? And in fact, it's North Korea. Oh, wow. Really? It wasn't at the time. Of course. I've had you, I think, at the reason, at the time. And so they'd be like, they'd bring you into writing everything down. Oh yeah. They'd be like really excited. And so they're like, you did roll the red carpet for you. You'd have a blast. And I'm like, well, yeah, maybe one time in my life, I would, I would, if the restrictions get lifted, I'll go with you.

Yeah, indeed. I've been to Seoul, that was awesome. They had squid ink pizza. It's not exactly the same. No, it's not, not at all. Like, Korea is basically like a bunch of, I would describe South Koreans as the older generation, they're like more Korean traditional, more racist.

The younger generation want to be Americans. And then we went to the dog cafe. That was fun. And it's what you guys think it is. Not like in Japan. No, the dogs just attack you for your food and they're slobbered and China. We had to protect the dogs from some people eat the dog there.

We're the part trying to talk about this. Yeah, in Vietnam too. My friends, smash the like button. Share the show with everyone in your life. If you do like the work that we do, this has been a lot of fun. Next week is going to be crazy because I'll save it for next week. But we've got a special panel is going to be joining us out the week

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I hope you guys enjoy that graphic novel. I've been working out for 25 years. Unwantedbook.com. We got the goal, so I'm very excited about that. Sample pages should be up on that page. We'll check it out. Michael Malice official on YouTube, and you can follow me on Twitter.

And I will see you again on this show in the not-so-distant future with a special guest, and that's all I'm going to say. It was great having you. It was always fun. Oh, it was fun to reconnect. I'm going to be going back to my Some people are going to love that. Some people are going to hate that. I see all the comments. I see exactly what you guys are saying

YouTube.com forward slash we are change continue my adventure on there. I've been posting like a lunatic on there as a lunatic as a lunatic too and Lots of really important stuff. I have a second channel too so I've been really just putting in a lot of the hours But there's a lot of underhanded things happening. It does mean a lot to me when you do check out the videos YouTube.com forward slash we are change You know, it's been a really pleasure. There's a new app that I've been working on called wingman. with two ends and then you can find me the Robbie man R-O-B-B-B-I-E-M-A-N on Instagram and X and then what's the app about it's the new great it's being a wing man it's grinder 2.0 it's being a wing man but it's for businesses it's not just romantic check out the well explain it I want money if it was for banging

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But then it's also a wingman because I like to have people fall in love. I was trying to get in and get married yesterday. I was trying to find him a wife. It's going to turn it to a sex thing. It always does. It always does. Just like Chicken City. I want people to get married.

I want people to fall in love. Bro, people watch chickens have sex on Chicken City. I know they do. Unreal. Anyway, Phil's here. I am, Phil the remains on Twix if you want to check out. Yeah. It's a thing?

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I'm pumped to see your app. for businesses to fall in love with each other or what not. Carter's one of the best producers in the world, by the way. He's an amazing musical producer. I appreciate that. Thanks, Lydia. Linda. But yeah, just go check out Michael's book.

Mr. Linda. Unwanted book.com, right? Unwanted book.com. You had one job, Lydia. For F's sake. Hey, I mixed Luke and your thing together in one word anyway. You can follow me at Carter. Have you thought about voice?

You've a great voice. Yes. Thanks for hanging out, everybody. Kill it. All right. We'll see y'all next time, everybody. Have a great weekend.