Timcast IRL - Trump DOJ Announces INTERVENTION In Portland Over Nick Sortor Arrest w/ Catalina Lauf

Episode Date: October 4, 2025

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Tate are joined by Catalina Lauf to discuss Nick Sortor being arrested by Portland Police, Justice Kavanaugh would-be assassin being sentenced to 8 years in prison, Catalina Lauf shocking Timcast crew by admitting AOC was an inspiration, and a massive Chinese Sim Farm operation being exposed.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Luke @WeAreChange (everywhere) Tate @RealTateBrown (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Catalina Lauf @CatalinaLauf (X)

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. we're good all right the federal government is investigating portland oh man this is going to be huge the doj civil rights division is uh launching this investigation because portland police arrested journalist nick sorter after he got attacked however when katie davis court was attacked beaten

and left of the black eye they did not arrest antifa now i could only just say uh my friends i've been warning for some time that uh the police in in portland are communists so This is not surprising, but it's good to see the feds are ramping things up. We'll be talking about that. We've got a bunch of other news. Donald Trump's got a major Supreme Court victory, allowing him to remove protected status from a ton of Venezuelan illegal immigrants. And the Treasury is going to be making a Trump coin with him raising his fist by the American flag. So that'll be fun.

We'll talk about that and a lot more before we get to start. Oh, actually, there's one more big story. Holy crap. I can't miss this one. We actually were thinking about leading with the story. Turns out we were personally attacked by China. Yeah, yes, so the blazes report that that Sim site, the fake cell tower network that was discovered in New York, was actually targeting among many others, me. This is a weird story. China was not very happy with me targeting Steve Bannon, Cash Patel, and others.

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This will slide a hand. Anyway, let's talk about the news. We've got this story from the post millennial. DOJ civil rights division investigates Portland police over response to Antifa attack on Katie Davis court and the arrest of Nick Sorder. For those that missed this, many of you may be aware that Katie Davis court, a reporter for the postmanial, was bashed in the head, giving her a black eye just last night or early this morning, depending on where you live.

Mr. Sorder, a conservative journalist, had been attacked by Antifa, and when he went to the police to report the crime, they arrested him. I said it before. I said it this morning. I'm going to say it now. The cops in the Pacific Northwest are communists. I'm saying that somewhat to be a dick. They are a far leftist. They are aligned with the left. They protect Antifa. Antifa are there under the protection of the police. That is why when Katie was attacked, they did not arrest them. That is why when Nick Soder got attacked, they arrested him. Now, you can make any argument in the world you want. Actions speak louder than words, but the big news is, check this out. Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Harmite Dillon has launched an investigation into the assault of Kennedy Davis Court and the arrest of Nick Sorter.

I believe we actually have, we have this tweet from Harmeet Dillon saying Portland, it's F.O. Time. Buckle up. And then we have this letter published by Harmeet Dillon saying Portland signed, sealed, and delivered. I'll just read some of this. It says, Dear Mr. Taylor and Chief Day, your immediate attention to this matter is required. We are writing regarding Portland Police Bureau's response to incidents surrounding the ICE facility in Portland, and specifically the city of Portland's use of its policing powers in a manner that may be based on viewpoint discrimination. Specifically, three issues that have been brought to our attention.

PPPB reportedly arrested individuals who may have been involved in an altercation, choosing to arrest Nick Sorder, but not others. PPP reportedly failed to identify or arrest individuals who allegedly assaulted Katie Davis court, even after briefly detaining the individuals, and the city of Portland reportedly has attempted to use its policing powers through a zoning enforcement action to limit ICE's use of its Portland facility. She goes on to say, well, we have not reached any conclusions on these allegations. We note a consistent theme in these three allegations. All three would choose one viewpoint over another. Moreover, the allegations implicate the city's performance under the settlement agreement in the above referenced case. They're going to mention, Harmeet Dillon mentions more to address our compliance.

concerns raised by these allegations. We request the following by no later on October 10th. The original unredacted BWC recording of the officer, body-worn camera involved in the arrest of Nick Sorter, the body-worn camera of the incident involving Ms. Davis Court, all unredacted incident reports for Ms. Soder and Ms. David Court, all complaints received about the incidents involving Mr. Sorter and Ms. David Court, or the decision to target the ICE facility for zoning enforcement, all non-attorney client privilege communications regarding their decisions all non-attorney client privileged communications

regarding directions to PPB responding to those protests and any documents or explanation the city wants to provide to the U.S. in response to the above listed allegations. Now, it sounds fun, but do y'all think

this actually has teeth or it's his talk? Drew Hernandez pointed out that she misspelled Nick's name. She spelled it Sorter with S-O-R in the first frame for sure. I don't, I didn't read through all of it. At the bottom there, you'll see his name's one of an E. I don't know if that makes, she has to reissue this. It's just a, I don't think so.

Yeah, and I don't know that really matters. It's called a harmless error. Right. It's obviously she's talking about Nick and what happened. The thing is, the police's job is to keep the peace. So at the microcosm, they're like, well, the reporter is the one that's poking the bear. So let's calm down. Let's take the reporter away and everything will be calm. But you have to zoom out and look at Portland in general and that these groups that may be organized and maybe somewhat peaceful and their pretension to destroy might actually be the chaotic thing. And the reporters that are there might, like, it's more that Antifa is poking the United States as opposed to the reporter poking Antifa's bear. And the federal government getting involved, I think,

shows that. We have cameras now. We have internet. They can't do these stuff in seclusion anymore and just and hide it. I mean, Ian, we're in America, people have a right to their opinions. And I don't care if he's poking in the bear or not. I don't care what his opinions are. He has a right to report from there. The police officers, if they were doing their job, they should have intervened right away when people were attacking him, not wait after the fact to arrest all the parties. I heard that other people were arrested here as well, so I don't know if that is true with what Harmeet Dillon is saying, but obviously clearly we've been talking about this for the last few days. This has always been going on. People get attacked. You defend yourself because I think

Nick admitted to trying to swing back as well. And then you get arrested for disorderly conduct, which is ridiculous. Nick tweeted the night before that if he gets attacked and defends himself, he'll be arrested. So he knew they'd target him for self-defense. See, what people need to understand is that Antifa is a sanctioned division within the government. And I mean that not in the hard literal sense, like you're going to go to the government and find documentation of it, but the police protect Antifa because they were effectively privateers for the city to attack their enemies. the Portland police work for the for the liberal government which does not want ice operating they have a vested interest in protecting criminals how do they get rid of ice how do they

obstruct ice well they can't order police to do it so what what happens is through circuitous means they allow antifa protect antifa and then say well you know there's nothing we can do about it then when antifa attacks nick they arrest nick why because he's interfering with a government operation. What about Katie Davis Cork? It's attacked. They don't arrest anybody because those people are allies of the police. This has been true for probably five years. We watched this when they did the Chaz Chop. There was one video where a guy got attacked by Antifone. He was backing away with his hands up. Cops, pull it behind him, jump out of a vehicle, and grab him and arrest him. And then apologize to Antifan. That was in Seattle. We know this is what's happening. The feds need to go in.

So I hope this has real teeth. I think it does because for so long, we have seen these groups being completely emboldened by being allowed to get away with the stuff. Everybody turns a blind eye, especially under Democratic administrations. Finally now that President Trump is laying down law and order and defending rightfully so conservative voices, I really believe this is a, I don't want to say, I do feel that this is actually going to be set precedent to future moments of this because it has to stop. I mean, it's unbelievable the violence that has been being caused against people who are, like Nick, just trying to spread facts. Thank God for social media, because look at the video, had we not had that, had we not even had evidence, none of this would even be talked about. And thank God for the movement, because think about everybody who came up to his defense that it even got to the eyes of the AG.

I feel like Antifa needs what I would call a reality check. And this is actually, could be a good thing for the movement of people that are actually anti-fascist. The United States government is not fascist in the sense of Giovanni Gentile's fascism. It was like a political, it was like a spiritual religious movement of like, we are all one, we are all individuals, but we are also all connected. We are all one, and the state is the manifestation of that. And so we are all, the state speaks for us. The state is the greatest force of all of us. And it became this religious zeitgeist in Italy that Mussolini, then, you know,

took and he'd made Gentile his, you know, minister. So my point is, if we don't have a country like that, that's not how our country is people, people don't have religious ad-dera-I mean, now you can see people, it might spark up, people are like, good, govern me harder, daddy, give me the feds, give me the feds, that can be, that can lead to fascism. But in the meantime, we're more of a corporatocracy. This conversation, and I don't mean, this is sound disrespectful, but the things you're saying are 2018. People, they need to hear it, though. People that are Antifan, they think they're actually challenging fascism are in the wrong. That's, again, again, that's why I'm saying

this conversation is 2018. These people don't think they're Antifa. They do not believe they are fighting fascism. They are either completely devoid of any thought at all, or they are intentionally lying for the purpose of fomenting violence. Last night you talked about the green shirts, the yellow shirts, and the red shirts in Antifa. And I think the green shirts truly believe they're fighting fascism and don't know what fascism is. Who's paying them though, too? This is the point. The point is, they don't know what fascism, communism, anti-fascism is. They don't know what Antifa is. They've never heard of these things and they are just there because someone invited them to come down and they don't know anything. I'm speaking to those people. This isn't a very, very important distinction and this is

2025. The conversation has advanced. There was a, Joe Rogan mentioned this and I had this critique throughout the week that he said these people really thought that Charlie was a bad guy and that they were good people. Joe is incorrect in that assessment. The reason why the lies about Charlie were able to work on the left is because the left never heard of him before. So another good example is, I'm walking around the city today and I get recognized all the time. And I've got security. We'll keep it at that. And in these conversations, one points out, I'd say, oh, you know, people seem to notice that whenever someone comes up to me, they're a fan. That's right, because in the actual political space, the people who are apprised of politics know what they're

talking about, see me and say, I know who you are, you are Timpool, I'm a fan. Liberals see me and don't know anything. So the instances where I encounter someone who doesn't like me are exceedingly rare in public because the average liberal has no idea what is going on in politics. And you need only look at politics. You know who's a great follow when he unlocks his account as Jess Margera? Steve Bannon talks about how you've got to watch MSNBC so you know what they're thinking. And he's right.

I like to follow Jess Margera. He's Bamb Margarra's brother, but he locks his account from time to time. And he makes posts where you're like, okay, I see how they're thinking. They've not even Google searched this. The example being the reason for this shutdown. Very simple. If you turn on MSNBC, they're going to have Democrats going, we are, like Schumer or some Democrat will go,

there is no health care benefits for illegal immigrants. We are not requesting it. We are not offering it. There I said it. Case closed. And the liberals go, well, there it is. Why are Republicans lying? If they actually were telling liberals the truth, they'd say,

and the reason is because we deem that anybody who enters the country illegally and then makes an assertion of legal status, we pause and say, this is now legally permitted. So the Democrats, the Democrats don't actually tell liberals what's going on. They just lie to them. That's the important thing.

The people who are out on the ground at ICE don't know what ICE does. Don't know what CBP is. If you went to these people and said, what does ICE stand for? They'd say, get out of here. If you said, what does CBP stand for? If you said, what is USCIS?

They'd go, huh? That's the point. they're not fighting fascists. They are just devoid of thought. The people who organize these rallies and the liberal high priests who communicate and rally them online know they are lying. Intentionally.

Like, Hassan Piker posing in front of what kind of card did he buy? He bought like a Maserati or something. Like, come on, dude. This guy lives in a mansion. He's not an anti-capitalist. He's a grifter. That's the point. All these people are lying. The liberal media is... Yeah, and the liberal media has been lying to us the entire time since 1949. It's only when Trump came along

he sort of kind of red pill people intentionally or not, and a generation of 15-year-olds was like, this guy's speaking the truth, at least. I would argue that many of them are useful idiots to an extent. There are some revolutionaries. But when you take a look at the, here's a story for you guys. We had Naima Trout scheduled, confirmed for the culture war live. When we reach out to people for this debate, hey, we want liberals, we want conservatives. Liberals always say, here's my fee, because they don't care about a cause making the country

better, their whole job is, their whole life is, here's how many followers I have, here's how much money I am owed for this appearance. That's why if you notice, I'll keep some names out of this, but some of these bigger podcasts, which seem to get prominent liberals on their shows, pay them. And then you'll find that these prominent liberals who are now being paid by these other podcasters change their opinions. It's pretty obvious. When we book conservatives, actually, we barely have to try. They're knocking on the door nonstop. Everyone knows this. Bill Mark, talked about it. We booked Naima Trout, and she said, I want money. And we said, we lose money doing these events. This is really just about having the debate. We understand, though, it's a live event,

so we can offer you $500 as a fee. Her team agreed to it and said, okay, we accept. We'll cover your travel accommodation and give you 500 cash. Nobody else is getting paid. They emailed us yesterday saying, we want $5,000. Can you do that? And we said, no, we can't. We lose money doing this and you know what part of me says i get it they're claiming like she got another offer it's going to pay her a lot of money and she has to take it totally fine who am i to tell you not take that money but conservatives do it for the love and for the cause and for the movement and liberals do it for the money so in terms of these people on the ground that are being antagonized by people i said that figuratively who are being riled up by the likes of hasan or the krasnstein's the only reason

has saying the things that he says is so that he gets more clicks and makes more money and it's evidence in the fact that he has no consistent logic behind what he says. These people on the ground are attacking Nick Sorder, not because he's Nix Order. They don't know who Nick's order is. They wouldn't know if he was a fascist or anything. All they know is they were told, bad guy. Hit bad guy. There's nothing you can say to them. I said, I asked you this yesterday, Ian, I'll ask you again. If you were standing on the gallows with one of these guys standing behind you, could you say anything that would change their mind about them about to hang you? Technically, yes, but good luck figuring out what to say in the heat of the moment.

Yeah, winning the lottery, we get it. The point is, nothing you say would make them change their mind because they don't even know who you are. Literally nothing. It's not literally nothing. Well, a lot of them are mentally ill, not just totally ignorant. I mean, we know this from personal experiences when me and Tim were out in Germany during the biggest Antifa meeting ever in history recorded. And they took a picture of us standing next to somebody. We were all walking in different.

It was like you, me and Max, I think his name was? Yes, Max and Marcus. And then Lauren Southern was in the background walking a different direction. Yeah. And that was enough to where they said, anyone in this photograph must be beaten. Yes. Whether you were with Lauren or not. And so they ended up beating, like, I want to make sure this is very, very clear for everybody.

Sorry for interrupting the loop, but Marcus and Lauren Southern don't know each other. Yep. And they attacked Marcus and tried stealing his camera because he was seen in the foreground of a photo. He was walking forward by himself. She was in the background walking the other direction, so they attacked him. And Marcus was an international journalist. He worked for like orders. So it was Max. Max was working for the German mainstream media, and they still decided to single them out, beat the crap out of them. Max had to have knee surgery afterwards because they kept stomping him.

Luckily, I was able to get away with a few lumps, but still, it wasn't a pleasant scenario where they were literally following us throughout the entire city and then following us home as well. Bro. Let me tell you how creepy these people are. Okay. So when Lauren Southern was getting threatened and we were like, maybe we should leave, I said, I'm going to go, I'm done here. I don't want to stick around. It's getting dicey. I'll go back with Lauren, make sure she makes it back to the apartment, to the Airbnb. Yeah, she was being hardheaded. She was like, I'm not going to leave her. I'm going to keep her running. I'm like, what are you doing? You insane woman. And I was like, I'm leaving, you can come. Let's go.

When we were leaving, people were tweeting our location as we walked through various neighborhoods. So we're in a side street in Hamburg, Germany. Not anywhere near any businesses or anything. And we see two people ride pass on bikes, the only people we saw. and they look at us and turn their head like this at us as they go by. And I'm like, that was weird. Next thing we know, following the hashtag on Twitter,

citing Lauren Southern seen at this intersection. I went, holy crap. So we went to a restaurant and we were like, let's just wait out inside. They were regular people walking down the street seeing us and then tweeting it. That's how psychotic these Stepford wife cultists are in Germany. And then they shut down the train systems by blocking all the railroads. Then they were shutting down the airport.

Then they were literally marching around. just burning cars and stores as they pleased. As police officers literally were just like, yeah, we're not going to do anything here. That's the type of scenario that we were in as we were literally waiting inside of our Airbnb trying to figure out if they figured out our location or not because help wasn't coming.

The reason I would only make an appeal to people, the green shirts, the people that don't know on a show like this is because there's something different about when you're in the wisdom of a crowd. When you're in a crowd, I would never make an appeal to a crowd. It's useless. They have mob mentality, Individuals that catch a clip on the news might hear something and be like,

I'm not going to the next rally. Sorry if the screen's green, not sorry. Tim, I was going to ask you. Scoot on in, T-Bone. So your point, though, about liberals, especially Antifa types, being motivated by cash, how many of those people do you think are paid activists? Because I do feel that so much of this, are there really, Is this actually not, it's not organic as the left tries to paint it out to be.

They're actually getting paid. Define organic. I mean, stupid people. Stupid people could be hired to do a lot of jobs. Of course. And who's paying them? Simple answer, George Soros. Yeah, let's get down to the bottom of the money.

They're investigating. So the way it works is the, was it the Open Society Foundation? Yeah. They make contributions to a bunch of NGOs. That's it. What those NGOs do is, it's different. So what ends up happening is when you want to simplify it for a conservative and you say George Soros is providing a lot of the funding, not all of it, but a piece of it to various NGOs, which finds its way to the hands of these protesters, the left then says because this doesn't actually help inform the average person, because then what you end up hearing is like on the ground during Occupy, people going, I wish I was getting a Soros check tool because, you know, Hannity and Fox News are saying Soros was paying these protesters. What actually happens is during Occupy Wall Street, there was a guy, a facilitator. We call these, we were talking about this yesterday, the yellow.

There's green, yellow and red. Yellow organized, they're, they could be targeted if people find out who they are. Red, engage in violence. And the green are the doofs. They trick into coming by claiming that Radiohead is going to play at Zucati Park. Wow. They literally did this. They said Radiohead was doing a free show.

It was Radiohead, right, Luke? Yes. Radiohead was doing a free show at Occupy Wall Street. 2,000 people showed up. And then the yellow, they said, Mike Check, everyone knows Mike Check. Before Radiohead, we're going to teach you guys about Occupy. and then use that as an opportunity to indoctrinate. Once they were done, they said, unfortunately, radiohead's not coming.

I tricked everybody to get there. So these people, they're paid to be there. How? No one says to them, go down and organize Occupy. What happens is they work for a nonprofit that receives funding from a variety of sources. Some of it probably USAID. Like USAID will give money to various NGOs and foundations will give money to them. They could be environmental nonprofits.

The boss, the director of that office, will say to the guy, you know what man why don't you take the day off you wanted to go hang out at occupy wall street right they sure could use an organizer take the day off on me they go down there and they're supposed to be working a salaried position for the nonprofit they're still getting paid but now they're organizing these protests creating flyers and getting people to show up and it's not really but money is fungible yeah so when they say take the day off so long as you're organizing occupy wall street i'm okay with that, they're getting paid to be there. Regular people, people on the

right, can't quit their jobs and go do this stuff. Yeah. That's what I see guys like Tim and Luke, I mean, you've been dealing with these freaks for I mean, well over a decade now. And I see this, and then you compare that and contrast that with sort of the commentary class on the right over the last 10 to 15 years, and they're

just convinced they can principle their way out of this, just my principals. And YouTube, specifically, I mean, have been sounding the alarm on political violence now for a really long time saying, nope, it's here. Who has? YouTube? No, you guys. Oh, you guys. I was like, you too.

You too. So it's like, you guys have been sounding along like this is prevalent on the left. And, um, yeah. You know, you know what really bothers me is that no matter how many times I've said over the past few years. Like, okay, to be fair, obviously the people watch this show agree with me to a great deal. Not on everything. But I kept pointing out back 2018, these cops are communists. They, the chief of police is appointed by a Democrat.

The Democrats don't like you. And so we've learned this hard lesson when proud boys were sentenced to prison for four years after Antifa attacked them. And this is not the first time we have seen the police target the innocent and let the criminals go. It happens on a daily basis. I keep hearing from conservatives even recently saying it's not the cops fault, Tim. It's the DAs who let him go. Maybe now those naysayers watching Nick Soder get arrested after they attacked him and Katie Davis court got attacked and they would not arrest Antifa. Maybe now you're like, oh, Tim was right.

the whole time. Communists can get hired as cops all the same. The Soviet Union had police, okay? All of the communist country, China has police and they are commies. To your point, what's sad about all this political violence is that this was laid out as early as the 70s. And it's crazy that it has taken our side so long to, A, recognize what they're capable of. The stuff has been laid out in Solonsky's books. They've been laid out in the weather underground, if you knew who those guys were. And this stuff is just recycled, except now on a mass scale, I think. And it's just, like, those, those, that was, we've known about this. And why has it gotten this bad? And whose fault is it that way? It has been emboldened. And I think it's because we had, the culture

has changed significantly. Well, I can give you a reason. Let's jump to this story. story from the Hill, Kavanaugh's attempted assassin sentenced to eight years in prison. That's it. He attempted to assassinate not just a sitting Supreme Court justice, but his family was threatened as well. Eight years. I mean, that's pretty wild. So the message being sent with the assassination of Luigi Mangione, I'm sorry, the assassination allegedly by Luigi Manjone of Brian Thompson, the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the attempt on Kavanaugh's life is that you're going to get a slap on the wrist. You are going to be venerated and praise. So just a moment ago, you were mentioning the culture that brought us to this point.

You've got a variety of factors at play. One, these liberal judges live in a liberal world and they want people on the right assassinated. Come on, I'm not playing stupid games anymore. When they say to this guy, you're free to go, okay, it's not literally eight years in prison, but for attempting to kill a sitting Supreme Court justice, that's insane. There are people who in prison longer than that for marijuana, just having pot. And with good behavior, it might be just four years. Indeed. Yeah.

So this judge, Deborah Broadman, she's actually a Biden appointee. Indeed, she stated how she considered the fact that the suspect now identifies as a woman as a reason to lower the sentence. There we go. And he might even be in a woman's prison, which would be absolutely ridiculous. People need to understand what time it is. We have two distinct identities in the United States. The Democrats occupy the multicultural democracy, and everyone else occupies the constitutional republic.

Even default libs are constitutional republic people just don't know it, so they end up marching in lockstep with these, this weird cult. Sometimes. A lot of them don't, though. Well, as of recently, there has been a sharp bifurcation with the assassination of Charlie Kirk. many entrenched themselves solidifying their position in the cult and many others broke away and I predicted this I could be wrong because there's data to this but basically what I'm seeing

is what I expected to happen. That is many default libs were shocked by the killing and are scared by it and so there have been prominent individuals who have been speaking out in support of Turning Point and for Charlie despite being what you'd consider default

libs. They don't pay attention to politics so I'm talking about celebrities, athletes and otherwise. However, a decent amount of these people have gone hard at celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. So what my view is, and my prediction for the next year is another, I think there's going to be a terror attack or a major assassination within the next year. And the reason is exactly this. The right coalition has just expanded by double digits because of the assassination of Charlie Kirk scaring people. But default libs, many of them, entrenched themselves in the left cult. So I'd look at it like maybe 50% are leaning right with a decent boost, and now you've

got 30 some odd percent in the left camp boosting their numbers from what was actually like 10% a decade ago to like 20 in the past several years. These people have basically entrenched themselves in the woke ideology cult, whatever you want to call it. That means they are going to believe there's fascist taking over. They are going to believe, like Gavin Newsom said, there will not be an election in 2028 and they are not going to accept Republicans winning with the killing of Charlie Kirk pushing a little bit of support towards the right because it certainly didn't go the other way the Republicans probably have an edge to win in many now and many new locations potentially in New Jersey maybe not I'd estimate there's a strong probability they actually survive the

midterms which would be shocking because usually it goes the other way if the Democrats are looking like they're going to lose in just shy of a year's time I believe that the entrenched large size of this cult is going to get extremely violent. Dude, I'm concerned about false flags, like a foreign operative making it look like they're part of that's liberal cult, whatever, and doing another assassination attempt

because it'll break the country. Exactly. I mean, if you look at the first civil war in America, there was other countries that were involved in it. If there's going to be another civil war, you could bet your bottom dollar, China, Russia, Iran, North Korea. I'm sorry, when? I'm kidding. So when the inevitable happens, I think we're in a non-kinetic type of war, and we see that when

people doubled down after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Today, I made a video, and I said it wasn't... Non-kinetic? Yeah, non-Kenned. That would be kinetic. I would argue that it wasn't just the assassination of Charlie, but the response to it that really kind of woke people up to just how close we are to Bedlam and utter chaos in our society. And I think it really kind of ripped off the face and the mask of the...

the establishment, and now people are finally seeing it to be as horrendous as it is. So this is a make or break moment for America that is going to be a key deciding factor to see where we're going from here, but all signs point to more trouble. I don't see a path away from this because the way I look at it, there are a lot of people that watch this show and watch my morning show, and I'm not right about everything. I'm wrong about a lot, but the predictions that I have made have been, let's just say it vaguely, correct, right? So the example that I often give is in September of 2020, I said if Trump loses in November, his supporters are going to storm the White House. They're going to bust it down. They are

not going to accept this. I was told that I was crazy, paranoid, et cetera. November came and went, nothing happened. And liberals made video saying Tim Poole's crazy. He's a conspiracy theorist. Then January 6 happened. These same liberals made videos saying Tim Poole had four knowledge of January 6. They couldn't except that no, I just saw the temperature and saw what was going to happen. I wonder if the FBI watched your video and they're like, all right, let's use this projection to do it. I don't know. The point is this. That's sick. There is a river all around us. We are not the biggest show in the world, nor do we reach the most people. And while many people watch the show for a long time, have probably been saying, I think Tim

is actually right about the path that we're on. Convincing you guys doesn't change the direction of the river. So right now where we're at is we are cognizant of what is happening. We have been cognizant of it for seven years and there's little we can do to stop it. And the point is this. Dana White gave an interview where he said, I don't like cancel culture. People shouldn't lose their jobs for what they're saying about Charlie Kirk. That is the perfect example of why nothing will stop this. Now maybe I'm wrong because I'm only vague, I say I'm vaguely correct. Obviously nobody stormed the White House in November, but you get how I was kind of. Kind of close to it. Dana White gave us a great example of prominent moderate individuals to support Trump do not understand what they are supporting. When Dana White says we should allow people to celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk, he's saying, I'm not really involved in politics. I'm for free speech. A society where its most prominent business magnates and personalities defend the right to celebrate assassinations is a society headed down the

path of Rwanda, which is exactly what happened when people would go on the radio and on the TV and say, I think it was the Tutsis, right? The other tribe are a bunch of demonic evil, and they got to be purged and killed and mocking them and laughing. And then finally one day people woke up and said, okay, we're doing it and started massacring the other tribe. We have opened the door to civil war because we celebrated, I don't say we, but this country defended the right of people to go on social media and go on TV and defend the assassination of Brian Thompson. Less than a year later, Charlie Kirk was assassinated and the left is still celebrating it. Sending the message that if you were a liberal and you try to kill somebody, worst case scenario, you'll get a slap

on the wrist. Eight years, maybe if you're caught, if you are and you go to jail, they will make sainthood candles for you. They will celebrate you and praise you. We recently saw a comedy show at a university where in their thank you at the portion at the end, it said Charlie Kirk's killer. So when Dana White says, this must be allowed, cancel culture is bad, he has said, light for 50 million people in this country to create an economy based on murdering your political opponents. Yeah, I mean, it's like you want to irrigate a canal. He's like, just open the damn flood gates. We need the water in the canal. Like, bro, there's a way to irrigate the canal. Obviously, we need free speech, but you also have to be just about how you allow society to warp people's

minds. Like, but here's the thing about prediction. And I think a lot about, are we predicting the future or are we creating the future? Like, if I go on TV and say, there's going to be a party on Friday at that place and there are all these people here and they're like oh and then they all show up I just manifested a party I didn't even so if you say there's going to be a civil war people are like oh oh and then they all show up except for the fact that the entire time people have been largely laughing and saying it's never going to happen I just there is a there is a nuance between telling people get ready and get be prepared and be there it sort of so there's like a fine line you know what you don't want to be fake and you don't want to say everything's fine

who are watching the show are not going out in the streets with guns and assassinating people. But other people that might be afraid of you, you know, people that hear you and they're like, really? He thinks, okay, I'm ready. I will say from the political side of things that, yes, it does in a way, it does emboldened people when they get a slap on the rest. At the same time, though, I do believe that it wakes up a lot of people who have been silent. There is a sleeping giant in this country. We saw it in this last election, I believe, that people finally got involved. And as, you know, a candidate and things like that, we get, sometimes it's like, you want people to be able to get involved into the process

because so many people are not. But now, because of everything that's been going on, all the hate that's happening, reasonably minded people on both sides of the aisle look at this. I think there are a lot of reasonable Democrats that look at the assassination on Charlie Kirk and horrific things that happen to conservatives. I think I want to believe and I truly believe in the data does show that people are waking up and there is still this sense of Americanism that, whoa, this is not who we are as Americans. We are not the people of Rwanda. This is, we have values and virtue in this country. And I do believe that we are seeing the change because so many people are getting involved in the political process. You know, I just maybe anecdotally, but I get messages all

the time that are like, hey, look, I'm sick of sitting on the sidelines. I want to help out. I want to get involved. I want to run for office. I'm not afraid to speak out anymore. And so I think for every time that we are, we're living through these really rough times, we do all have a choice, though, of what our country, what do we want the country to look like? This is still our country at the end of the day. And there is still a lot of Americanism there that I think is the guiding light to the future. Do you think there's an off ramp? And what's the off ramp to the kind of collision course that we are in now? I think I'm more, maybe I'm an idealist, I'm a little bit more optimistic.

I do, look, our country has gone through so many more hard times. You look at the Civil War, you look at World War II. Like we, yes, we have lived in our own gilded age in a sense. We're now seeing chaos and in all that. However, our country has survived tremendous trials. And how we survive them, we're most. moments like this where we all did come together and we did revive of what it meant, the revival of what it meant to be an American. And I do believe, I still believe that everybody, even on

our worst day, we are still the greatest country in the world and we will turn this around, but it takes everybody to get involved. It takes people to stop sipping on their, you know, Starbucks lattes and just pretending like everything's fine. You have to get involved. And I always say this, it will become personal to everybody. If it hasn't become personal to you yet, it will become personal. Whether that is the transgender movement or whether it's illegal immigration, all these policy issues that this enemy within has created in our country, one day it will get personal to people. And when it gets personal to enough people, are enough people going to stand up and say this is not what we're going to do anymore. So no, we're screwed.

Yeah. Well, yeah, because it's like I do agree we've been through some tough times as a country, but I think the problem was in the 60s and 70s, like you mentioned with Weather Underground in this sort of leftist paramilitaries that we saw. So we never actually sufficiently beat them. I mean, you saw like Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorn, like, advising, like, you know, modern liberals and these sorts of things, the Obamas. And so it's like, I agree, but it's part of the problem we're dealing with now is that we never actually sort of successfully put these people away when we had the chance, you know, 50 years ago. And now we're ever. having to deal with it again. And now, I mean, to Tim's point, we're going into a midterms that look like it's going to be favorable for the Republicans. Um, they're losing access to a lot of funding. So they're back into a corner. So it's not even a prediction. It's just math. Prediction markets still favor favorites. Sure. But we'll see in one year's time. Favored as far as holding on to some degree. Yeah. So they're going to, they feel demoralized. They feel back into a corner. The prediction market says Democrats are going to take the majority of the house. The only, but that happens every, every single. The only way that happens, though, we have

such a slim majority. And this is why everybody who's listening has to get involved because we have such a slim majority. If the Democrats do win, we will not be able to pass anything from the Trump agenda, which has been remarkably better than obviously the Biden administration. But the reason for that is because normally in these off cycle years, Republicans, the people who we rely on sometimes, unfortunately, don't come out. And so it costs a ton of money to get people to get out and vote because sometimes it become complacent. I don't think that that's going to be the case list now, especially after everything that's been going on. There has been, this was a mandate that happened with the reelection of President Trump. So much bad happened prior

to that that I think people now understood the cost and the consequences of not waking up. And so I think that we are going to take the House back. But it takes, again, the silent majority to get up, to knock doors, to volunteer, to contribute. Everybody has a skill set or everybody has a role in this movement to make sure that we do win the house. Keep the house. Is that where you're running? Like what got, you're running right now in Florida?

Yes, I am. What happened? How'd you get started? So I have obviously been in politics for quite some time now. And my original inspiration, I always say it was AOC because I look at somebody like that. And I looked at how there weren't enough people on the Republican side speaking out against women like her and these young women who were completely manipulating so many minds, especially of the younger generation. And I'm like, why don't we have a counter voice to a lot of these people? And so I was honored to be able to get a lot of support in my candidacy.

And now that we're running in Florida, you know, people are really fed up. They want people who actually care about them. And we have, even on both sides of the aisle, we've had people in Congress who are not working for the people. You know, you see it, unfortunately, sometimes on the Republican side. And it's time that we bring back servant leadership. It's time we bring back a representative democracy, which is what we were founded upon. Your congressperson is supposed to care about you.

They are supposed to be a lion for your values and a voice. Washington for you and so for so long people have been fed up about that I feel like Thomas Massey is doing that but it's like when you have 700,000 people that you have to represent I can that even function like I represent me I can't really represent take because he's too awesome um and I don't know what he's thinking at night you know I never I can't get into your brains people I don't want to we shouldn't be brain tapping each other so where do you stand where do you stand on the Thomas Massey issue are you with Massey or are you against Massey you know ultimately

ultimately, it's up for his constituency to decide. That's not for, you know, I do, I do agree with some of what in the past, especially, but I'm a little bit more pragmatic when it comes to everything that's going on from a political perspective. You know, there are a lot of, quote-unquote, hills to die on in politics. And sometimes it's better that we do remain united as a party in a lot of ways because when you break out into these factions, which is what Republicans sometimes do because we're just more individualist thinking, you know, the left always stays together, they mass organize, they're unified all the time. I'm not saying that we should, you know, be like them. However, I am saying that we have to be, we need to be a party that is on the same page.

If we are not, if we are divided as a party, then that allows the subversion of the Democrats to be able to a infiltrate our party but also to to then be the stronger to to then rebuild and be strong and then they do what they do and so I think ultimately it's up to his constituency um to decide on on how they feel and that's how you know ultimately it should should play out I feel like with the Epstein style he's going hard and like release the Epstein files that it's he thinks this is what my people want I don't care about the Republican Party I don't care about the federal government I'm representing 700,000 people they want the files so I'm going to vote to do it and it's like Like, it does kind of break away from, you know, the party in some ways because a lot of people are like, hey, I think we're using this data as blackmail against the deep stay right now.

Don't, don't unleash. That's what Alex Jones said last night. But it's not unleash it because we're using it. But like he's adhering to this people. Like so, and the people aren't all on the same page. You know, people in Kentucky are different than people in Florida and Colorado, wherever you're coming from. Anyway, I guess the tap it off. I get concerned about people marching in lockstep, but I understand.

understand your point that if you don't someone else might yeah look at the end of the day you have to always be as a representative you have to do what what you're there because of the people you don't send somebody to Washington because oh well I this is the way I feel about something which is unfortunately we have too many narcissistic politicians that go to Washington they not only not vote for what their constituency want they also are sitting there insider trading doing whatever they want they never get you know they're never held accountable because they always get reelected whatever that might be, at the end of the day, you should do what matters for your district. Right now, the economy is huge. Thank God we have President Trump turning things around from

an economic perspective. The border crisis was, I mean, everything that was happening in our country was destroying it. And Biden did destroy our country in such a short amount of time. We're now trying to reverse that in the Trump administration. And so ultimately, to your point, We have to be in lax up from the president. I think he is the commander in chief. He was historically reelected. We need to be delivering on his agenda, which is what the people historically, from a mandate perspective, voted for.

So if Massey's order comes down to release the Epstein list, where do you vote on that? I would, first of all, I would appreciate that what someone like Massey should do and what I think what most representatives should do, why don't you take a poll of? what matters in your in your district why don't you take a poll for what what your constituency wants and so but you have to vote yes or no on the petition it's it's it's kind of hard to organize a scientific poll that will reach enough people in time when these things get introduced like we know that massey's been working on it for a while so it does make sense to be like oh I'm going to set up a poll in my district but sometimes you might get something that can move through in like a week

some big political thing happens they say we're going to draft a bill on this get introduced by next week, it should be done. You're not going to be able to organize any meaningful poll, and any poll that you organized would easily be exploited by people who want to trick you into voting the wrong way. Well, and most policies, though, let's not forget, are not clean bills. I mean, half of this stuff, you have stacks of paper, to your point, you have to read over, you know, 10 hours, but it's not really straightforward. Have you read through Massey's, the Massey? I haven't actually. Massey and Rokana, I think? I think it's pretty good. The initial bill that was put forward by Rokana, I heavily criticized because it would require the release of all the

evidence, which includes videos of children. And so I said, this is a trap. Democrats put forward something they know Republicans can't vote on. Rokana, then I interview him and he said, okay, you're right about that. It was not my intention. I appreciate that you brought it up. We're going to change it. So he and Macy got together. And they drafted a very, very simple. I think it's like two pages, very clean. Release what of the Epstein's information that you can without exposing any ongoing investigations, evidence, you know, that would depict, you know, children and women many trafficked. So I think his bill actually looks pretty good. Trump has not given us a real reason as to why he does not want it released. So were I to be in Congress, I would vote for it to be

released. What about you? Yes or no? I'd like to look at the bill. I'm not going to comment on anything until I've seen the actual bill because if you have an option to release the Epstein list, but Trump tells you know, what do you do? I'm not going to. I mean, I haven't seen this bill, so I don't know just in general, like, would you release the Epstein files in a way that made sense to you, even if Trump didn't want you to do it? I think it matters of what your people want. You're not sitting there. I think sometimes there's so much sensationalism that happens in politics. And ultimately, like, why are, why don't we, if the constituency wants something to be passed when it comes to economics, the border, things that the kitchen table

issues, why don't we focus on that instead of at the end of the day trying to be sensationalist? And I'm not saying that this particular situation is sensationalist. However, from overwhelming conversations on the ground, I will tell you the majority of people are focusing on how they can feed their families, why they can't afford homes, what's going on in our district when it comes to hurricanes. Those are things that really matter to the constituents. and set up some of these people that look at Twitter and things like that. And I'm not saying, I'm not minimizing it. But you have to vote when you're in Congress.

Of course I do. I'm not. Present. Or, you don't show up, right? But the issue is that Trump has handled this so miserably that it's actually inflamed the issue. There was, and Dan Bonjino and Cash and Pam have handled this miserably. And I consider them Cash and Dan to be, well, Cash is a friend. Dan, I know a little bit.

He's a good dude. I respect them. They're friends of the show. They've handled this so poorly. They have made it an issue. And I wonder why that is. And then Donald Trump says it's a hoax. I don't know why that is.

And now I'm kind of like, yeah, I'm not playing any games. This is weird. Dan Bongino could have come out and said one very simple thing that would have made this, put the story to rest like that. If he looked into the camera and he said, guys, we're working on this Epstein investigation. You can trust me on this one. It may take some time, but we're going to get to the bottom of this one. Please, just be patient. Story gone.

Instead, they come out and they're like, there's nothing here. It never happened. Donald Trump comes out. It's a hoax. And now we're all going, does he want this to be the biggest trending story in the world? Because this don't make sense. No blackmail. He totally took his own life.

Nothing to see here. Don't talk about it. You're a weakling if you do, which is just absolutely absurd. I'm like, anybody who sat down for 10 seconds of marketing 101 would have been like, here's what you do. Say, if you want to make this the biggest trending story, say this. And then they went, you got it, went out on TV and said everything they said. Did he win? I think there's a lot of internal pressure from the intel agencies telling them you're not going to talk about this and that's it. And I think that really shows us the true structure of power in Washington, D.C.,

because it also highlights how it's not just Trump who's in charge here, someone clearly else is. Trump previously helped out the victims. I disagree. There's been some actual reporting behind the scenes. that the issue is, and I think this makes the most sense, because this is what I was arguing beforehand, it's not so much that he's using this against the deep state or whatever. That's wishful thing in Megaside. But even if he is, that's evil. But it's not what he's doing. What it is, is that as we already saw with the news saying that Elon Musk was named in it,

it's bad for the stock of these companies to even have your name in any way in it, even if it passively mentions your name. There are people who associated with Epstein but didn't go to the island who are going to be named in these documents as having traveled with Epstein or partied with them. And Trump, my understanding is the reporting was Trump said it's going to hurt a lot of people, a lot of people are going to get hurt who didn't do anything wrong, and that's why he doesn't want to put it out. Yeah, but we have discernment as American citizens.

And if you're associated, and if you actually did horrible things, you should be held accountable, especially when you do them to children. And this president of saying, yeah, you could hurt children, but if you're powerful enough, we'll let you get away with it. That's not what we said. the reporting behind the scenes is that there are people like Elon Musk who was reportedly named in the Epstein files. Why? Because at some point, he crossed path at a party with Epstein. The argument is the files are going to come out. It's not going to expose who you want it to,

but it's going to have names in it of people who have worked like in some way with Epstein or financed him unbeknownst to them he was doing these things. That's the argument. I think it's null avoid because the documents have already been released that that Elon's in there, deals in there. But there's also, as Elon said, specifically major left-wing backers. We're talking about Bill Gates. We're talking about Bill Clinton being on the plane as children are being hurt in the back, which Mangina was talking about years ago. Why I'm in favor, and I would agree with Massey and say, we should vote to release these things. And I put the responsibility on Trump and his team for failing this miserably. Do you think that was right, though, from the media

perspective to include Elon in that particular article that they did where he specifically fought back and said, this is ridiculous. They tried to paint him as this villain of this story when that wasn't the reality. So I talked about this latest released and it was heavily biased against Republicans. And I said, this is why Trump needs to release it because the Democrats picked out Steve Bannon. They picked out Peter Thiel. They picked out Elon Musk. Those people should have some answers, but there's other people that were also involved here that are major Democratic donors, major big players. And for some reason, we're protecting Bill Clinton, who according now to two sources, new children were being hurt and was there and was an accomplice to the crime?

Why protect Bill Clinton? It's completely obvious. The Epstein files are going to implicate people that are important to Donald Trump, for whatever reason. He doesn't care if they did good, better, otherwise. The right wants to win a war against the Democrats. Trump doesn't want to allow them in any way to gain power. And I got to be honest, I'm terrified of them gaining power. I'm in favor of releasing these documents. But again, Trump is saying nothing to see here because he wants power and doesn't want Democrats to get power. But he's losing so much political capital and power by doing so. Yes, he is. Absolutely he is. No one actually cares. This will affect the midterms in my opinion. It will. I doubt it. There's a lot of people that are libertarians that never voted in this last

election that only voted for him that were in the middle because he came out and his staff came out and said we're going to release everything. But barely anyone's talked about Epstein since Kirk got shot. Because you guys are, you're completely, you're completely discounting the fact that the average American person, again, we have huge crises that were happening, that we're now being solved by this administration. There is, when, when you have a family that couldn't afford groceries, you have seniors on fixed income, you have families whose children have been killed by illegal immigrants, there

are things that yeah there's children also being abused there's children being hurt and abused in the thousands of doesn't live in this world but it's they they're so you're saying so you're saying someone has a hard time of a bill so so thousands of children getting hurt here is like there's so much kathy rickowski kathy who's kathy newman the so you're saying argument no i'm saying we should have these documents released trump has botched this miserably however the obvious reason why trump is withholding them is because he wants to maximize political power by any to go up against the deep state. He doesn't...

I disagree with that. There's also so much more that we don't know. What do you disagree about? I think that's very favorable thinking. I think that's giving him the benefit of that. That's giving him favorable thinking. He could change. He could change the political landscape of this country.

Yes, because the petos haven't been held accountable. Because there's petos who hurt children who are still out there. Why does that benefit Trump? That the petos are still out there. I have no fucking clue. Because he gets stuff from them. Because they give him money. Yeah, I'm sorry.

Because he uses that. Yeah. Because he wants to defeat the. deep state and doesn't care what evil things he does to get it. Well, now you're making an argument that it's okay that children were hurt here for political power. Making an argument that it's okay. What are you talking about? I said should be released. I'm saying the obvious motivation that Trump has as administration is he doesn't want these people to get back in power. He doesn't want to go to prison. He doesn't want his friends and lawyers to go to prison. And he doesn't

care how he wins. When you are talking about war, they say all is fair and love in war. And so there's a simple motivation. Trump says there's a lot of powerful people in there who are going to get hurt by this. And what does that mean? It means he's probably getting something from them in some capacity. Donations, resources are otherwise, and he wants to use that. And whatever that means. Or at bare minimum, he fears that if it's released, it'll cause damage to someone like Bill Gates who may actually do something that benefits.

I wonder if when he went to Geelaine in prison and he was like, okay, first she came out and said, Trump never did anything untoward, and then they moved her to minimum security. I wonder if she gave him the other part of the puzzle. So now he has all the info for the black man. Favorable treatment for Galane Maxwell also is a very bad look here. Okay. Editing the footage, also a very bad look here. Lying to the American people treating us like we're stupid is a very bad look here.

If that's the actual case here, they should just say it. There's like, listen, this country's run on blackmail. This is what's happening here. And they used it against us, so we're going to use it this side. So that's what should have been said here. Do you believe that there is a current political war between the left and the right? Of course. And an intel agency war as well.

Indeed. That also has them involved. What do you think will happen if that thrive off of blackmail? What's going to happen? What do you think will happen if this? Democrats win back power? They're going to do what they always did. Like what?

They're going to, they're not going to win the presidency. No, no, no, I'm saying. Also, why wasn't it released when they were in prior? Let me ask the question. What happens when they win the Congress, when they win the House of Senate and the presidency? What will they do? Probably, I mean, I was going to make an argument about Ukraine, but Trump's already kind of being egregious about Ukraine too. So what are they going to do?

Try to implement socialism. They're going to open the border to 20 to 40 million more illegal immigrants. They're going to finalize the criminal charges against Trump, which are still pending, arrest him and put him in prison. They're going to go after his lawyers. They're going to arrest Bannon. They are going to go after everyone like they did the J-Sixers. They have shown us that they are capable, willing, and they will do it. This is not a defense of Trump's handling of the Epstein files because my position is Massey and Rokana are correct in doing this.

I also, however, recognize the underlying motivation that Trump has in almost everything he does, is to make sure that he defeats the Democrats and they never regain power. Hence, mass deportations and instructing his DOJ to go after these ballot harvesting schemes and mail-in ballots. If we defeat them there, they will not regain power in this current form. Democrats may win in the future if their party changes and they actually start getting rid of the lawfare. But I believe, based on what we've already seen, like the arrest of Steve Bannon, like the arrest of Trump's lawyers in multiple states, the false criminal charges, the false rape civil, uh, case, the false fraud case in New York, the raid on his home, the 20-year sentences for

proud boys who weren't even in D.C. at the time, if Democrats win again, they will do everything to destroy you and me and everyone else. So that being said, Trump has mishandled this. And by his mishandling and Dan and cash and Pam, there is no other position, but sorry, guys, Rokana, Massey, roll. I think a position of you have the blackmail, so let's use it. I mean, I understand that position. That's not necessarily what he's doing. I think a lot of people make that argument, and it's entirely possible.

I'm giving a much more simple argument in that collateral damage will hit powerful business magnates that provide resources to Republicans in some way. If you deserve to fail because of your associations to predators and your association to hurting children and going to islands where children were hurt, you deserve to fail. I don't think so. And I think those institutions need to fail. Those institutions need to be held accountable. And guess what?

The economy is going to be, the economy is already a Ponzi. I don't care about the economy. Let me ask you this. Do you think any top-level Democrats were involved in child trafficking? Absolutely. Do you think they will increase that when they win again? What do you mean, increased child trafficking? Do you think they will bring back Epstein Island once they're back in power?

There's probably already a second one already that exists. And who thinks running it? The CIA. Do you think when these people have a power of law behind them again, it will get worse? Yeah. Welcome to war. there is no easy answer we know that if they get power

it's going to go 100 fold because we know that they were trafficking kids at the border and Trump put a stop to this. It is not easy. Yeah Luke why aren't you more passionate about the thousands of little kids that get sex trafficked and labor trafficked at the southern border complete silence about everything that

happened in the invasion but there was no complete silence I was actually talking about that a lot. Okay but then how come well why isn't the focus also on the horrific things that happen and in this I will say that doesn't excuse thousands of children being put on islands and hurt here

that doesn't excuse that right but it is very sensational a trial problem problem question for you you have a government that is not currently trafficking children yes they have evidence that some people did if the evidence and it's hypothetical I'm not saying it's literally what's happening if the evidence is released that political party loses power to sex

traffickers those sex traffickers will get into office and then traffic children is that preferable for you I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think that's not the question, Luke. It's called a conditional hypothetical. Can you answer it? Yeah, if you give me that hypothetical, sure, I guess, but I don't think it's probable at all. I don't think that's a realist. I asked. I think exposing the predators in our society who are still out there walking the streets, hurting more children now as we speak, because they have the means and the ways and the money and the influence to do so. And we excuse that as a country is something that,

of course, we voted against this last election. We were promised justice. We were promised that we were This is why libertarians don't win. That we were going to actually hold these powerful people accountable who pull the strings in Washington, D.C., that they were finally going to have a reckoning because we're going to stop them from being lawless, right? We were going to say we're going to be a country of law and order, right? So you're taking the, you're taking the position, you're taking the deontological position. It doesn't matter if a million people die based on your actions, if your action save one person. That's the deontological approach.

You're playing all this hypothetical scenarios. You're saying if we release the Epstein, Democrats are going to win. I'm saying in that event, what would your position be? What was the hypothetical again? This is a classic trolley problem. Right now, the reporting that we have is that Trump doesn't want to damage his resources behind the scene by exposing them in the Epstein files.

We don't know that that's the case. So once again, I am in favor of Thomas Massey and O'Connor's resolution to release it because Trump and his team have mishandled this. And I'm not saying it is definitive that this keeps Trump in office. up the point that you have an absolutist approach where you're saying it doesn't matter what happens, do it anyway. Yes, because of how egregious all the crimes are. If you pull the trolley lever, you will kill a million people. And if you leave it where it is, you kill one. Yes, but that's not related to. You're saying pull the lever. I'm saying pull the lever where we actually have a

government that represents us and isn't run on blackmail, which we deserve. Let's have a government. I actually think right now, for the most part, we don't. I think the Trump administration winning has routed the deep state in numerous ways. And it's exemplified every day in the action, especially with Comey being indicted and the pardons of J-Sixers. And don't forget, every day, Cash and Dan are locking up predators. And it's one of their biggest focus. It's a big focus of theirs that the Democrats didn't have. What are the reasons why a lot of people have these Charlie conspiracy theories is because the FBI has lost all trust and legitimacy. And they're saying the FBI lied to us about Epstein. They're probably lying to us about Charlie right now. So they're spread.

We all agree that they mishandled the Epstein case. But all of this, though, we have to also remember that that sentiment from the American people didn't start in the last, you know, four years or whatever. Like, this has been a long time. Look at JFK. I mean, this, and that's fine to ask questions. I don't, you know, I don't want to live in this world where you can't ask questions and you can't be passionate about what you believe and all the stuff.

But at the same time, so that sentiment didn't happen, you know, over the last. last just because of this FBI and this administration, this stuff has been going on, if not worse. Like, I actually, I trust these guys. Like, I trust my president. I trust this FBI and doing what they need to be doing. Do you think they told you the truth about the Epstein list? I think that we need to. Yes or no. Did they tell you the truth? It's not as simple, but you're talking about like legislation. You're talking about. No, I'm asking you a question. When Trump says it's a Democrat coach, do you believe them? There is so much more to the entire story that we hear at the table we are not privy to and that's and that's it's not a Democrat hoax you know he doesn't

he doesn't not handle this yeah and I think like Trump is also just he gets really frustrated with people that aren't trusting the plan I know it sounds like a little cliche but it's true and and to be fair to Trump's point is after the Epstein thing was completely botched which I mean I'm a Trump going to I'm fully willing to admit what it was not handled very well polling didn't really budge like yep the vast majority of Americans are not online they're watching Fox News If you watch Fox News, that's why Bondi and Trump are so confused over why there's a segment of the right. But the middle of America that doesn't, that isn't political, sees this. No, they don't.

If they did, you would see it in the polling. Luke, you live in an anarcho-libertarian Bitcoin world. We've gone over the polling on the show like 700 times. I live in Miami. That's where I live. And I see a portion of the voter base that decided to vote for the first time. And that base, and a lot of Americans, Even Americans that aren't politically inclined have been talking about this, and this is an issue.

And this is an issue that's very important for a lot of people. But it's not important enough for any major pollster to actually consider in a campaign. Who's doing all the pollsters, people who have still landlines and are picking up their phones? No, you are completely wrong about us. I'm talking about his team. I'm talking about his consultants, people like Charlie Kirk, what he was doing. And I'm talking about people like Alex Brissowitz. Charlie Kirk behind the scenes was saying released the Epstein list.

And I agree with that. My point is this is not a principal issue for Americans, and the polling shows that. that they mostly don't know what it is. Why would Charlie Kirk then behind the scenes trying to work with Donald Trump to release the list, right? He saw this as an important issue because the young people did believe

that this is an exaggeration, Luke. I don't know about that. I think when it comes to Congress and things like that, I think your constituents, their will should matter with something like this. So I don't know about the influencer world

and all the stuff. If people are working behind the scenes, I think ultimately when it comes to like legislation and things like that, again, if it's something that your people are asking about and all that, then, okay, and then you have conversations, but you don't just sit there and look at what Twitter is saying and there's a lot of BS out there. And I'm not saying that this situation is entirely BS, but there's a lot out there that a lot of it is driven by sensationalism. And by the way, the Democrats love this.

They love when this happens. We got to jump to the next door. Just really quick, release their list or not. Yes or no. I'm not going to, I'm like, there's no. you're trying like i'm trying to get a clear answer where you stand on the issue it's i'm not gonna fall for that like that's that's a stupid like trying gotcha question that i'm not i'm not gonna i'm not gonna it's i've come to think like i trust cash to lie about the right things and sometimes you use evil to create order and that's how the world has always been and sometimes you just do it i mean if you know i think the only answer you could actually have is i'm not sure yeah because not giving an answer people are going to accuse you of

running, you know, sniffing Trump's ass or whatever. But if the honest answer is, honestly, I'm not entirely short. Well, I want to, I would want to see what the people, my constituency would want. Yeah. If I got... We got a move. We're going to jump to the next story instead of arguing all day.

Oh, we can go four hours on that. From the blaze.com, China behind massive nationwide sim farm, sim farm network that directly threatens American critical infrastructure and Lowe, they were attacking me personally. You're in the story. China launched a international attack on critical American infrastructure and personalities,

which included me. This is pretty crazy. This is wild. So the discovery of SIM farms that threatens cellular networks in New York City is only the tip of the massive nationwide network run by Chinese communist government that poses an immediate threat to critical infrastructure and has led to terrorist attacks, including hoax, SWAT raids, at the homes of national leaders, Blaze News has learned. So DHS located this. Look at this.

There's tons of them. Check this out. They say, it's absolutely an act of war, according to a top intelligence official speaking with Blaze News, a direct threat to our nation. It needs to be shut down today like ASAP. Only five of them have been taken down so far. Let me just read where, let me find where in the article.

So this was the fake sell. towers that were used to do the swattings. Is that correct? This is what they're reporting. And let me jump to the portion. It says, recently these sim farms are believed to be responsible for dozens of hoax swat raids, including a senior U.S. Secret Service official, FBI director Cash Patel, members of Congress, including Marjorie Taylor Green, and media influencers such as Tim Poole and Steve Bannon. Well, then, what do I get? Do I want a prize? Is the federal government going to give me a cookie or something? You are the tip of the spear. Congratulations. You get a Chinese fortune cookie. Welcome to the future. Yeah, I have to wonder too with the a lot of the

threats that we get. As I mentioned, recently I've been direct contact with the FBI, like actual over the threats we've been receiving because they've ramped up substantially. And one question has always been are these actually foreign state actors? And my argument in response to this story is two things. Yes, I believe them when they say China is behind this. However, we also have evidence that not all of the SWATs were from the same source, and we do have evidence, and we've submitted this the FBI in the previous administration, that it likely came from a leftist. And I have evidence that I can't speak publicly about. It would compromise any investigation. But we have evidence. Additionally, when we get these death threats, and then you go online and see

the people saying them in videos, we know it's Americans doing it. So I do believe that there are foreign actors that are trying to fan the flames by sending us death threats and launching these hoax swat raids. We also know for a fact some of it is coming from leftists. How do we know that it's China? I know we're getting some of the reporting here, but I haven't seen any kind of clear answer. Because they have a source at DHS, numerous that have confirmed to them, and that's what they're reporting is based on. So if you trust the blaze, then you can believe it. And if you don't, then you don't believe it. If you trust DHS. I trust DHS.

China's a good boogie, man. But I'm not saying that it wasn't China. It's crazy to say, but there are people in this administration that I have known for years, and I don't think they're lying to me. You know, it is the kind of thing where if an actual American did a SWAT and then, you know, Chinese are watching this right now. They're tapped this show. They love it.

Probably a bunch of them love it. What's up, guys? I'll be in China soon. That's my plan. They're like, oh, let's copycat. Let's make Tim or whoever think that. They're going to harvest Ian's organs. We're never going to see him again.

I'm going to meditate in the mountains, baby. We're going to make videos about it. Beautiful western mountains of the ancient shoe empire. I'm there with you. It's easy to copycat. So you get one crime in America and then foreign actors are like, let's replicate that and make them think that it's coming from within, psych them out, you know, get them to turn on each other. 100%.

It's so important that we hold it together. I think because of this and things like this, it's so important that we as Americans keep cohesion. The more that we are divided, whether it's politics, culture, whatever it is, you're allowing an open door for the enemy within and without to completely take their chance. And that's been, that's historically been the cycle. And that's why it's so important that to your point, we do remain united and we do uncover these things when they happen, but it's important that we don't show that we're, you know, everything that's going on, the weakness, you know, sometimes that is caused by, again,

the media, unfortunate circumstances, like horrific circumstances that are done by horrific people. But at the end of the day, what we can control is to remain united as much as possible. Yeah, well, I think people, like, Americans are, Americans with the right, are really burnt out with foreign entanglements. They hear the GOP, they're, you know, these swamp creatures, like, banging on and on about the CCP. And so they kind of roll their eyes and say, okay, this is a boogie. man but like legitimately is I mean this this story is a great example of like no they actually are our leading global adversary yes they are trying to undermine our country yes they are threatened by

the Trump administration's efficiency and and you know their ability to sort of show strength globally so it's like yeah I understand I you know I see a lot of people typically they kind of just roll their eyes at the CCP dooming or they kind of you know hand wave it away but they are legitimately and they're I mean the story proves they're they have a lot of of a, they're making a lot of plays in the United States. Well, it technically doesn't prove it, it is evidence, because the claims themselves aren't proof. Sure, you know, but, you know, if this, if this reporting is true, it just adds to the

list of ways the CCP is, you know, actively meddling in the United States. Well, the story that I'm reading is talking about how they were bot farmers, how they could have capabilities to send out 30 million techs per minute under the type of equipment that they had. They had more than 100,000 SIM cards that were also seen. and I think there's a lot more to this and automatically I would love to see some evidence highlighting how China was involved here because I think there's a possibility for a false flag potential too, especially with how just angry the intelligence agencies have been within

the last few years, especially under the Biden administration against independent media, against content creators, and they have acted against them like we saw with what happened as Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, and James O'Keefe. So I wouldn't be surprised if the swatting actually came from inside the house and that China's just being blamed right now for it personally. You said how many texts per minute, 600 million texts per minute? 30 million. 30 million texts per minute. This is industrialized psychological warfare.

We've come to that age now with first computation, electrical computation, now artificial intelligence. Like the machine gun was industrialized warfare. You churn men into the grinder. That started in the early 19. Now we're seeing this rapid psychological manipulation. manipulation that's inconceivable, 30 million texts per minute, what human can keep up with that? How do you even know what's real and what's not? And that's the point of it a lot of times. Yeah, it's definitely not past the CCP to be bot farming. I mean, there was, I think it was during,

during, it was like right before, right during COVID when Twitter removed like tens of thousands of profiles that were just spamming, like pro-CC stuff all the time. And it's like, I mean, yeah, you saw it, you saw a lot of it during COVID was a lot of, I guess, information, which is a bit cringe, but I guess all this is to say, it's really not past a CCP to be bought farming. And I think in this article, it's said that this specific, you know, battery farming has been going on since like 2004. I think every government should be bought for. I mean, it's a psychological war. You have to have some control over the media narrative as a nation. I hope we all, I hope the America's got a great one too. And like, you saw Israel now

wants to buy TikTok. I'm not sure if that purchase went through. It comes from China. America's like, stomp it down and then Israel's going to buy it. Well, it's not Israel. It's Larry Ellison. Okay, head of Oracle, second richest man in the United States, worth $450 billion, roughly. I know he's in the pocket, not in the pocket, but he's tight with Trump, Larry Ellison. Is he tight with the Israelis?

Why did Israel? Okay, so he is tight with Israel. I mean, the Israeli-American sci-connection is very tight. And you saw that with Gielaine Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, allegedly or provably working with Mossad. Like, no one's, like, thinking we're not super tight with Israeli intelligence, the five eyes. I don't know how involved Israel is with the five eyes,

but so I don't know why I brought it up. That's more of a British. Can we talk about how the CCP was using Venezuelan passports to illegally enter our country? And why wasn't like, can that be more investigated? Can we find out what type of bad actors were coming into our country because of a border invasion? I mean, there's so much stuff here that happened under the Biden administration, complete subversion, all these little nuances. I hope every single thing is investigated.

Yes, that's very sophisticated. What's happening here and to Tim and these influencers and members and things like that is very sophisticated, but what also was going on and what is already in our country. Yeah. Well, it's just nice that Trump doesn't even need a ball farm. He just has like a bunch of sensitive young patriots just posting nonstop. I mean, look at DHS, like that guy, he's not even getting paid right now. The government shut.

Now he's just letting it fly. It's like, we don't even need the bot farm. He just got huge. How sad is it that Netanyahu need $7,000 to do that? Real. Donald Trump can be like, post for me. And everyone's like, yeah. And then Netanyahu's like, we'll give you $7,000.

Per post. I want you to call it. Which is wild. I want you to call Gavin Newsom Gay. Everyone post it right now. They'll do it. And I'd be like, let's go. Trump posts a sombrero meme and everyone just goes sombrero nuts.

It's crazy how many people are for hire in this industry. I think there should be a label. There should be something on Twitter that says, hey, I've taken money to shill for this country. And why haven't those rules been followed with this particular case here? I don't understand. People like to talk about Qatari money, but the Israeli money is there too, clearly. So it needs to be exposed so we could actually get to the bottom of who's financing and trying to, of course.

What did the Democrats say the Russians were doing when Trump was running for the presidency for the first time? What were they doing? Well, that Trump worked for Russia. You don't know, but they said Russia was meddling. in our political system. Oh, sure. Yeah. Really was Obama and Clinton.

You mentioned Venezuela, Kennedy, earlier. Did you guys see that the Trump administration just blew up the fourth Venezuelan boat allegedly? They called them terrorists. I don't know. They were alleged terrorists to my knowledge, but they just hit it. No congressional. I mean. What do you need Congress for?

Maybe to declare war on somebody. Maybe to do some. It's in international open waters. I mean, what do you need Congress for to bomb a foreign country? I don't know. What country do they bomb? Well, they bomb a Venezuelan piece of technology. right off the coast of Venezuela.

That's what they told us. So for all you know, it could have been Chinese? For all, I know it didn't even happen. Exactly. If your argument is, if your argument is allegedly it was Venezuela, then my argument to you is, okay, so it was moon men made of cheese. Right. And how would that be any better?

Well, just said it just say it was a boat coming from Venezuela off the coast of Venezuela. Maybe the moon men are trying to steal our cheese to rebuild the moon and make it bigger, and we don't want that. That's a good point. If you knew their intention, but they said they're cartelling drugs in, And they are definitely have hostility towards the Venezuelan government. Somebody said we're going to invade Venezuela?

Like, here's another question. You know, when we got leaked information that they were killing civilians in a foreign country that we never declared war on and invaded anyway, that was terrifying. But there's a legitimate purpose of military use, which is not nation building in Afghanistan. So when Trump says, we're going to secure our border, oh, look, narco terrorists are driving in. Here's the video of it. I go, well, I don't necessarily just trust you, but there is a world of difference between collateral murder when the U.S. killed a Reuters journalist overseas and then tried covering it up. And Trump being like, I'm going to show you what we're doing in international waters because

these guys are drug runners. The question then becomes, okay, I would like to see evidence of this beyond just the video. I'd like to see documentation, whatever proof they can afford. But I'm actually willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. It's very different. The question I would have it. The first question I ask is, what are these boats doing otherwise? Is it a group of fishermen enjoying a nice speed boat to the Caribbean and Trump just blew them up? I really doubt it. Why don't they watch the boat come to the shore, watch it land, and then get the guys after they deborded? Yeah, detain them, then blow them up. Right? I mean, come on. Guys, I like you see the video recently where actually there were a lot of people, law enforcement, that one of the boats is

firing back at them. So we don't know what happens. Ian, did you see the discord messages between the boats where he was talking about how he loved the other boat. They loved each other. They loved each other and that the other boat pilot was not actually, in fact, trafficking drugs. Yeah, these guys sound freaky. Blum out of the water. Get them out of here. One of them was a furry.

But honestly, I would love to have seen them, let them land and then take them and take the cargo and show people instead of just blowing up all the evidence. Like make an example out of them. Like, these are the drugs coming in here. I mean, the war on drugs is a farce anyway. It's all just the cover for the kind of oil-rich nation that Venezuela is a failed communistic state. But there's a reason Trump declared Maduro a drug trafficker and then recently declared war on drug traffickers and how Venezuela is becoming very closely aligned with Russia, China, and Iran. And now we're flying military jets and fighter pilots and naval assets. There's discussion of drone bombing Venezuela.

Not only that. Which would require a question of war. There's practices of land invasion happening right now in Puerto Rico of American military service members. So I do believe we are headed towards the kind of whether kinetic or non-kinetic type of war between the United States and Venezuela. It ain't just United States and Venezuela, though. Of course. It's going to be World War III. It's bricks and it's all the other nations involved that.

Indeed. Yeah, for me, what I'm seeing is it's going to be Iran next, Venezuela and then essentially Russia. What about Iran? That's how the, that's what I said Iran first. But why? What are they going to do in Iran, do you think? they're going to do a regime change, and they're going to probably start bombing sometime soon. American refueling aircraft is already being sent.

Gaza is being wrapped up as soon as Gaza wraps up. There's conflicting information right now about Trump pushing the Israelis towards a peace deal. The Israelis kind of pushing back right now, but I think the vice president and the president just retweeted Hamas, which is very interesting. And Trump ordered BB to stop bombing Gaza. So far, the reports are coming in that BB has not. not listened to him, just like during the time when BB was bombing Iran, Trump told him to stop. He didn't. He sent more bombs. Again, kind of humiliating, attacking Donald Trump once again

on the international world stage. Okay, but hold on. Trump retweeted the Hamas, the statement of where they agreed to his show of strength of what he proposed. So how is that just because that's, how is what is the fine line to you then of sharing a fact to i'm not sharing any sensationalizing it and then i also want to no no i'm sharing a fact it happened okay right i'm not i'm not i'm not placing judgment on it right i'm just telling people hey it happened for all this conversation about iran and the doomsday that we're going to war and all stuff what what what is then your your spectrum of going to war and then showing strength in an administration do you want us to be like Biden that just sat there and everybody just was completely not afraid of us. He gave the CIA

carte blanche to do whatever they wanted to do in Ukraine. And he did a lot of kind of aggressive military actions as well. So I wouldn't say he was. We were respected by any means. So what is your spectrum of we're going to go to war to, okay, let's actually show people that were not meant to be effed around with. And so what is your spectrum? So why should we go to war? Why should we go to war? Why should we go to war to show strength? I'm asking. I'm asking. I'm asking. I'm asking. I'm I'm asking what your spectrum of a decision by the Commander-in-Chief, what to you, what level to you is complete war or doing what it takes to make sure that our adversaries know not to mess with the United States?

That's a very kind of fine line, and I could answer that in many different ways. But obviously, you could use the carrot and the stick. I think we've been using a lot of stick. I think we need to use carrots. I think we need to promote diplomacy, and I think a lot of the problems could be solved through just economic free trade capitalism and deals that could be made right now that could promote more prosperity rather than this kind of war footing that we're on that I think is incorrect.

Nobody wants war, okay? However, do we think in the history of history that, like, we're just going to, we are just going to get away with this stuff through, like, peace and love? I'm not saying that. I just said the stick in the carrot, and I said it should be a two-prong approach where we're strong, but at the same time, war should be a last resort, diplomacy should always be used. Trump, this time around has been bombing a lot of countries. He bombed Yemen.

He bombed Iran. Did you support the bombing? But I want to ask you a question. Did you support the bombing of Iran? I supported President Trump's decision. And guess what? Everybody was wrong that all the doomsday people said it was going to lead to war. We're in World War III.

It's like we didn't even give the administration. a chance to do they have more intelligence they have more intelligence than any of us again at this table it's disingenuous when somebody trusts i trust the president of the united states and making decisions especially when it comes to foreign policy and what he needs to do to get things done why is all the sudden it has to be sensationalized that we're going to world war three it's like why why even i never even said that but yes you did you said literally maybe we're going to war with venezuela yeah That there probably will be a conflict with Venezuela, probably, with the way that things are shaping up. I mean, you don't bring in the military.

You don't prep for the invasion. You don't send in the military if that's not an option. Obviously, all those options are on the table. Obviously, we hope and pray Donald Trump makes the decision that's going to bring peace, not war. You're also assuming that people, that terrorists in particular, are going to come to the negotiating table. When it comes to economic sanctions and things like that, sometimes they don't. So your solution is just bomb them, just bomb everyone and start wars? What is your solution?

I think given, no, bombs, give the intelligence. Pathological agents that target genetics, specifically in that region, Luke. Don't you know what Fauci was working on? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds great. Or, you know, nuclear wars. But what do you call it for exactly? That was my question to you, though. What's your position exactly?

Because I'm saying we need more diplomacy. Are you saying we need more war? You're saying, okay, but you're saying that a situation where we should, show strength automatically leads to war. That's exactly what you're saying. You just, you just said that. I'm saying we have been at war for. If I say that I agreed with the commander and chief's decision that ultimately denied war, no matter what the issue is, because you're running as a politician. I'm not, well, I'm running as a servant to my district that overwhelmingly supported President Trump and supports his decision as commander in chief. I'm, if, if we haven't

intelligence that a foreign adversary is directly impacting the United States and Americans and our interests. How? Who? Why shouldn't the commander in chief then make a logical decision to then do what he has to do, which is what happened in Iran? And that did not lead to World War III, by the way, which everybody then screamed at that choice.

But it's got to be careful. And then it made an impact and it made a difference. But where is the fine line? Just to be pedantic, some argued that it would ignite World War III at the moment. The actions Trump took with Iran could still be a contributing factor to the escalation of tension between bricks and NATO. It also couldn't. It's not an end of the conflict. Iran literally was to China afterwards.

We dropped bunker busters on Iran that were designed 20 years ago specifically for bunker bustering Iran, and that would not inflame tensions. Of course it will inflamed tensions. It inflamed tensions and it stopped the negotiations happening in Russia right now. The deals that were supposed to be made, Putin was watching the negotiations and said, do not bomb Iran. He saw the bad faith actors in those negotiations and it affected the negotiations with Ukraine. So you can't say it had no effect. Everything's fine when we're still very close towards another war with Iran.

China is now becoming closely aligned with Iran and now Venezuela. And we are becoming and going on this kind of trajectory that we should be using diplomacy. That would be a lot smarter. It's much, much more than that. Bricks already exists. Of course. We don't have a conversation about China and Iran becoming close.

They're close. But also, again, but they're coming even closer and becoming more in a war footing. And now more war equipment is being shared. And now we're being brought closer to this type of bigger conflict,

which I think we should be doing everything to avoid. Do you think in any case showing a show of strength is necessary? What do you define that as? A show, any show of strength? Because negotiating a bad, I'm like Trump flexing on stage with a shirt off.

I don't think they're going to be flexing on the other little thing. Obviously. Like taking out Soleimani, for example. Do you believe that there is, do you believe? I asked you a bunch of questions that you still never answered them. I answered a lot of your questions. No, you haven't. So you supported the bombing of Iran and you thought that brings peace, yes?

I said I supported President Trump's decision. Are we in peace right now? I support President Trump's decision. I don't know about it. We are not. We're currently at war with Iran. It was a 12-day war. The United States crushed them, and then they said, okay, we're done. Okay, so what's the solution? What are you trying to get at here? The question is that she's asked. We bomb a country in between, just as a consolation. I think that would we sacrifice some children at the altar of the military industrial complex.

And then as soon as we sacrifice to Molick and the demons out there, that it's fine. Just a little bit, just a little bit of intervention, just a bunch of, just a little bit of war. dramatic to completely manipulating what I said. I said that I support peace through strength, and I don't believe that all these decisions from the commander-in-chief, given the intelligence that he receives, that is, again, above all of our pay grades here, ultimately he makes a decision that doesn't lead to war, that doesn't fuel the military industrial complex.

Believe me, I'm the wife of a veteran who served in the global war on terror. I'm completely against the military industrial complex. complex. However, I'm not against peace through strength, which is a cornerstone of American foreign policy. Peace is done through diplomacy. Peace is done through negotiations. You sometimes can't. Can you stop interrupting me? Can I, I let you finish and I listen to you. Can you please let me finish, right? If you look at all the peace that we have ever had, it is because people came to the negotiation table and made a deal. Wrong. And because they won wars, right? It's a thing called gunboat diplomacy. It's because we vaporized to

Rochima in Nagasaki and they dropped her their knees. Not always. But a lot of the times, a lot of wars were prevented because of negotiations, right? Since the end of World War II, the peace came about from our retreat. It was gunboat diplomacy. So if you believe in negotiation, then why are you upset that President Trump that re-stated that you said? You're making that up out of your own head.

I never said it. I was upset that he did. I said that he just did. I think Luke hates America. I think Luke, you got to flex a little more, baby. No, gunboat diplomacy was this decision. late 1800, sometime when they're like, we're going to roll up our ships on the coast to park them right in front of the city and be like, now you're going to do some diplomacy

with us. There's a reason why so many people voted for Donald Trump when he, even when he was talking to you directly, Tim, he was like, yeah, why are we involved in Yemen? Why are we doing this? We should be taking care of our own problems at home. So if you're arguing, yes, we have to be the world police, yes, we have to bomb countries for peace. That is a ridiculous idiotic notion that doesn't make any sense, doesn't add up when we have clear priorities here at home that need to be prioritized because guess what? Like bombs in Venezuela with flip-flops in Iran is not my enemy. Okay, but you're clearly putting, you're putting words in my mouth that I'm for being

the world release when I said. We need to do this. So how is that being the world police? We need to spend all this on. We're spending records. We are in debt up to our ears because of the military industrial complex. How much money are we just wasting away, throwing away, Deutsch and Elon Musk could have never gone to the Pentagon and audited them.

Why? Why can't we have an audit from all the contracts, from all the nonsense, from all the malfeasance, from all of these people robbing us blind? The military, can I make one point? Someone has to sacrifice children at the altar of Mollah. Oh my gosh. Can I make one point here?

That's exactly what's happening here. The military industrial complex has literally started like in 1913. And they're robbing us blind. Okay, but you're sitting here trying to blame this administration for decades of poor policy. All I'm saying is keep your campaign promised

and let's take care of our problems at home. We have clear issues. He is taking care of the promises back home. Okay, but let's hyper focus on that and not send a quarter of our THAAD missile defense systems over to Israel right now. We don't need to be doing that. We don't need to be spending billions of dollars.

Hold on. You know, maybe we do. You certainly need a broad focus as the commander. You can't just hyperfocus now. You need a broad focus. But this is why I'm going to leverage. I'm going to go to Carter and be like, Hey, man, Israel, give me seven for pro-Israel.

What are you going to give me for anything? Eight and a half, eight and a half guitar. Come on. Let's turn the UN assembly into an auction. Donald Trump, Donald Trump galvanized so many people by saying George W. Bush knew about 9-11. He galvanized so many people when he said, we should have never went into Iraq. He galvanized so many people when he said, yeah, we just went in there to take the oil.

When you do that dance on SNL where he was, you know, like. Yeah. Yeah, he was like, no more children, Tumolik, right? And I was like, yes, that's what we want. He said, maybe some. Luke, we know you have a little bit. We know you have Trump derangement syndrome. Oh, come.

Let's go. She got you. That proves it. Argument one. And you can't have an argument. You can't have a clear answer. No, no, no. You got TDS.

You're like, no, you know what are you doing? Like, come on, that is such a cop out. You know why I can't have a clear argument with you? Do you support Trump when he was campaigning or do you support Trump now? Do you? Which, which, which Trump do you support? Honey, honey, I have supported him since 2015, okay? Of course.

No, but let me tell, yes, I have supported President Trump since 2015, but I will tell you, people like you make it hard because you want to have a substantive conversation, but yet you sit there and say, you're completely twisting my words. You're saying I'm the world's pull. You just want to sacrifice children in a moment. It's okay. I get it. It's fine.

When I literally told you. Give them to the Epstein criminals and predators out there. It's fine. Just let each other. I got to be honest, I think Catalina is going to get a massive amount of donations after she claimed you had Trump derangement syndrome because the chats were going up like, Catalina for Congress.com. Luke has Trump derangement syndrome. Can we make a yard sign? No, it's going to be a T-shirt, okay. Crop top, actually.

I definitely want to let you point that when Trump was running in those early days and saying we never should have been there. He was ignorant to a lot of geopolitical strategy of taking the Suez Canal, holding it using Israeli nuclear force, you know, eradicating radical. Islam and whatever that means whether or not you agree with that but when you get into office now you're like oh I have to decide who lives and who dies we need money I truly believe he has avoided war and I truly believe again as a wife of a veteran of global war

and terror it's hard to see an entire generation that was completely a misled a lot of these guys look back and they say all for what it's devastating the impact of what that war did on an entire generation of men they shouldn't but if you sit there and change the time you would have been arguing

You would have been saying. No, no, no, I actually, I wouldn't. No, I would have a solution. That's the down who's saying guy has connections to 9-11. I'm going to stop you because I'm completely anti-war. I'm completely anti-war and it's rude that Luke continues to say that. Changing the subject. We're going to rag on some liberals.

Before, we're going to grab one last segment for the weekend. We got to do it because this one is, how do I say this? I am emotionally triggered and personally offended and biased. I got this tweet. I tweeted this. 90% of liberals we try to book demand money. Zero percent of conservatives ask for money. In fact, conservatives sometimes drive themselves even though we cover travel and accommodation.

Liberals are grifters. They don't care about ideas. They care about money and they will say anything for money. And I believe it. So we have an update for you guys for the Culture War live event, which is coming up in a couple of weeks. We had booked Naima Trout, who is notable because she debated Charlie Kirk on Jubilee. She had agreed to come on the show in exchange for $500. This is the Culture War Live, ticketed stage event.

We have never offered money for Timcast, IRL. We have been offered money. We have turned it down every time. We do not offer money to appear on any of the shows that I do. Naima was invited to come on the debate show about dating, and she said, how much? So apparently she had negotiated, her team had negotiated with Alex, not someone from our team. And she was offered $500. And we never pay the events lose money.

We do this because we're trying to, it's true. for the cause for an impact. They came back to me, to our team yesterday saying she had received an offer for $5,000 and would be backing out of the event unless we could match or offer more. To which we responded, no, we can't do that. Now, I'll grant some respect. If I was asked to go to an event and I said, sure, I'll do it, whatever. And then like a week later, someone said, Tim, we're going to pay you to do another event. I'd hit him, I'd be like, guys, look, I got to take the money. Sorry, like it's a paid gig versus. So I'm not completely bent about that. But it is a reality that conservatives never ask for money. I think to be fair, zero percent, it might be

0.01 percent, because we may have had one personality who's not a conservative, but is a prominent, it's like a celebrity who kind of agrees with Trump. So anyway, here's what ends up happening. I tweet this. It's got 4,000 retweets, 811,000 views because it's true. And even Bill Mars said the same thing. And everyone's favorite, Olivia Juliana. She is a liberal personality tweeted, 10,000 likes and I'll post screenshots of Tim's team offering me money to collab with him. I love the word collab. Because that literally never happened. I don't collab. But I guess semantics, people who are invited to come on the culture war debate show, which I will also add, I wouldn't be there, as we already announced, I wouldn't be for security

reasons. And we don't know yet if I will be there. She said, 10,000 likes and I'll post screenshots of Tim's team offering me money. And this, just so beautifully exemplifies the point. She wouldn't just do it. She wouldn't just say, oh, yeah, look, Tim offered me money. No, she says, you give me clicks and help me build up my personality and my career and my job. And maybe I'll consider being honest, of which she wasn't, because Lisa, who does our booking, Patriot, posted the screenshots on X showing everything.

And never was she offered money. Hi, Olivia. Tim Poole was a new show, the culture World War II. guests with opposing views. Hi, Olivia. The Temple is hosting an event July 26 in Washington, D.C. No offer of money. She said, hi, have a prior familial obligations and we'll be unable to attend. Thank you for the invitation. Then an email. We would like to invite you to the culture world, the comedy loft, no offer of money. And excuse me, the other half of the email, here's the date. Here's going to be there. Kat Tim, Kyla Turner, Myron Gaines will be there. And then she even went

further to include a text message with another staffer who said, we never offered her money. So maybe she's just a lunatic who was, I don't know, talking to some random cactus and thinking it was me offering money. I don't know. But we never did. These people lie. It's what they do. I am genuinely convinced that about 90% of liberals are literally just saying whatever they have to say to make money. People like Jimmy Kimmel are no exception. Sam Cedar. Well, to be fair, Sam did the show for free. So I'll give him some respect. Hassan Grifter. Krasensteins, they never asked for money. They came on the show, respect, despite not respect in other areas. Speaking of liberals making money, Luke, how much are you getting paid to be here?

Zero, actually. I'm volunteering my time. Wow. You have, your thesis is wrong here. Well, Luke's like an anarchist. No, he's not a liberal. He's definitely not a liberal. He's a panicking.

Well, I mean, there's other people who don't like try to panic out of here. Get him out of here. Say donate to. To me, Luke's a panic in and then watch this. Donate. W.W.W.cadelita for Congress.com. But, uh, no, looks at, looks at, looks at, look, it looks at, I believe in freedom and, and, uh, you know, personal responsibility. Are you saying I'm emotional?

That what? Something that politicians usually don't know much about. What do we not know? Freedom and personal responsibility. Have you guys ever fallen into that place where you just decide, I'm going to start lying now? And then you kind of just justify it for yourself and you become that person? No, you'd be a liberal thousand. because there's easy money.

Yeah, I've waved through that state of mind and that's what's happening to these people. That was college. Luke, come on. How much money do you think we could make if we go all in on Israel, bro? It's so dark. Stop ragging on Israel. You like,

that I got to stop talking about the Epstein list too. Five, look, what if you did 10 tweets per day? You know what I mean? $70,000. No, they don't got a budget for that.

But they might be, you know, seven grand per day, bro. Come on. That's a lot of money. When the IRS took everything for me last year, I would have thought about it. probably would have said no.

It's possible that this girl was wrong. Don Lemon asked for $50,000. Wow. Dude. You know, I find that actually really insulting. Who does he think he is? I think it's actually, you know, no matter how much someone likes to argue here,

I'm really grateful that you have people on. And people like myself, you know, we're really honored to be able to have a platform and for you to invite us on and to have these dialogues in this conversation because we're reaching an audience that, you know, we might not normally. And so thank you. And I'm really insulted that people ask you for money to be on here.

There are some prominent podcasts that pay people to come on the show. And we don't do that. We won't give people money to come on Timcast, Ira. We've talked about it. Like, if there's a celebrity who's not a political figure and we want them to comment on something, but we're like, that's what culture wars for. Because if they're not a news, if not a person who's in politics and news, and doesn't know what's going on.

We get specialists sometimes on the show who will be like, you know, we had like white coat, white coat waste project. And they're not news guys, they're specialists. So they don't have a lot to say on like politics of Yemen. You know what I mean? So we try to reserve that stuff for culture war. The only cultural war events we've actually offered money for

is literally this one time for Naima. Because it is a stage event, we've talked about it. And I said, well, it's not the same thing as asking someone to come and sit down and have a conversation. We're asking them to be in public with an audience, selling tickets. So I think it's fair that the people who do request some kind of compensation, we would offer something. But Kat Tim didn't ask for money. Myron didn't ask for money.

Michael Malice didn't ask for money. Literally no one's asked for money. In fact, even Alex Stein. Alex did it for free, right? Even Alex co-hosted for free. We lost money doing those events. I think we lost a little bit. Like we made back a good amount.

And we do it for the love. I'm here. I flew myself out here. I'm here for free. I'm like, what Kennellina believes. But I think it's important to have these discussions that I'm here because I love these discussions. And I think it's important to discuss. I think it's important to argue. I think it's important to ask questions. This is true for all of us. And this is the point I'm making with this tweet. When you look at, you know, David Pacman, his opinion's for sale. Like, Hassan Piker, his opinion's for sale. Hassan Piker is simultaneously pro and anti-military industrial complex. His business makes no sense.

He's like, we should be cutting off Israel because the military industrial complex in the Middle East, but we should be giving it to Ukraine. And I'm like, huh? It's like, what the hell? Well, but then that's not principle. That's just based on grifter. Grifter. I'll give Sam Cedar credit in that he came on for free.

But Sam Cedar is a different kind of grifter. He makes videos about me like nonstop, and this is really funny. I'm looking straight into the camera at you, Sam. When I was sick for August, I was mercilessly sick. He didn't make one video about me because I didn't make any videos. His viewership dropped, what did it drop by like 20%? And a subscriber growth dropped by like 70%. When the man can't talk about me, he loses views.

I'm so sorry about that. I know your kids need to eat. Different kind of grifter. But the rest of these liberals are literally like, I've got so many followers. I can make money now. Shout out to Stephen Bonnell, who, whether you like Destiny or not, he would pay for his own travel all the time. And he's been doing that for years and years. Yeah, but that guy's trying to get killed.

Like Stephen? I don't know his intentions, really. Bro. To bring him up. Hey, at least you can point out in this one instance, he does pay for himself and never ask for money. Listen, Ian. I don't like judging people. I think one of the biggest critiques people have of you is that you seem to be willfully obtuse.

Of course. That's my position on the show at the moment. Okay. Destiny has celebrated death. called for killing of conservatives, that conservatives should fear death. And Hitler loved dogs. And then goes out in public for a public tour right after Charlie is killed.

Hey, all that stuff I condemn. A lot of that, what you just said. My point is, you don't go on your show, mock people and praise, mock people who just, whose friend just was murdered, praise the assassinations after you suffered criminal charges, I think, I don't know the full details,

where your kid is going online and insulting you and your wife left you. And then you say, hey guys I'm going to go stand in public here's where I'll be standing it's like we get it dude we get it you're trying to get someone to hurt you please no one hurt this man okay he he's in need of a 51 50

yeah he's not doing too well I reached out to him and we should pray for him doing better let me ask you this so when it comes to the financial incentive when you come on here especially like as a candidate this is just from my perspective right or anybody you're subjecting yourself to a if somebody disagrees with you horrible, you know, comments. I don't even want to see the comment section here.

You're subjecting yourself to vulnerability in terms of anybody can take a clip and or misconstru what you're trying to say, manipulate what you're trying to say when that's not actually what you're trying to say. There's a huge liability in doing that yet people still come on here to have these discussions because that's worth the ultimate backlash. Do you think in their mind they think that it's only worth to come on? It's not right. But with when there's a financial incentive because you're putting yourself in that i guarantee you there is a number i can give most liberals where they will change their opinions in two seconds yeah conservatives absolutely not right you will they can just be bought i was so and i say this of 90% of conservatives

because nothing's absolute because some so the way i put it is 90% of liberals are grifters 90% of conservatives are honest to their to their mission that means you can find some conservatives but i guarantee you if i went to anybody in the turning point building and said i would give you hundred thousand dollars right now cash here you go suitcase all you need to do is i'm going to film a video of you renouncing christ they would say never right never but i know that i can go to liberals a good majority may to be fair some of them may may weigh a hundred thousand against their you know multi-million dollar enterprise and say no but the average one of the middle liberal who's like wanted to come on the show i bet if i said give you a hundred grand to be conservative they'd go

okay yeah because you got like two years of money for a guy making $50K, and he's like, all I got to say is some lie, and then I can spend the next couple of years making up for it. Because they don't actually believe in what they say. There's no principle in there, what they believe. So I felt at Hollywood, working in the entertainment industry. The whole industry is built around that.

Sell this product. Say it's good for you, even though you know it's not. We're going to grab some super chats because we went long because that's what we do sometimes. And it's Friday, and we're having fun, and we're screaming at each other. But let's grab some of your super chats. and let's see, what we got you?

I'm about to ask for attacks. Ambrile Brown says we can't release. I'm reading super chats now. Ambril Brown says we can't. This is my favorite part of the show, by the way. Considering people spent a lot of money, I will throw you guys off the show if you keep doing that. Ambril Brown says we can't release the files. The world would go to chaos.

People will die. Vigilante is on the rise. Forget civil war. This is life for life and war beyond us. Yes, I want to know who is. was on the list, but the justice isn't ours. True justice will come. When, how?

Solid. I disagree with that notion. Justice could come now. We don't have to wait for it and have some underwater 4D chess backgamming explanation. We could get real answers. We should. We deserve it. My jury's out with me, man.

I think about lately how you create order by using evil once in a while and then you repent along the way. And this power of blackmail. level of power that you could exert over big money. And you know big money is the problem, the Swiss banks, Bank for International Settlements. I mean, if you've got dirt on those guys and you can somehow circumvent the World Economic Forum's

attempt at turning this into a corporatocracy, you know. Basically, every super chat is anti-Luc. Read them. I'm okay with that. I like criticism and I like... Luke is wrong. Luke is wrong. I love constructive criticism, and I love to have these debates. So let's have these things.

Nautobot says Luke would burn down the country. country to get the Epstein list. Fallen Angel says, Luke, justice takes time for it to work, so it won't crumble under examination, especially with the corrupt judges in the court system. That's actually true, too, it's the judges that are blocking, their judges blocking the release of these files.

They have the files. They could release them. They don't need a judge's approval for them. A judge blocked the release of the files. The court files, but not the FBI files, not the financial transcripts, not the records, not the victims, not the flight logs. Daniel Cole says Luke's view, respectfully, is naively myopic. He clearly cannot see the bigger issue for the Epstein trees.

Dem tyranny is 1,000-foot oak. I don't think we're going to get dem tyranny by releasing the Epstein list. What if they could use the Epstein list? Felipe Brevard says Luke only thinks about his business model. He needs material to feed his audience. He doesn't have anything to lose. We parents do grow up. What are you going to lose by releasing the Epstein?

What if it's the ability to get? They're saying if Democrats win, their kids' future is at risk. If they could use that's correlated with that. They could use the EPSC files to repeal the Federal Reserve Act. Great. Would you be cool with them using it as blackmail to get those people to repeal that act? No, I think Epstein takes priority. Oscar Oliu says, I haven't super chat in a while, but please tell Luke,

normal people don't give an ish about rich people doing gross ish. We are worried about bills and dying from crime. Don't let's have an America First policy where a lot of the predators out there are hurting our children. Like, I think it's a fair argument to make. Lou's just like SLV-R-B-A I can't read the whole thing

says people only care about uncovering Epstein docks so they can see elites who have or may done some pito stuff only a small percent

actually care to get justice for the minors who were involved look at what happened with ditty today what happened were we at 50 months

or something 50 months four years was that good or enough or not enough I don't think it was enough for what he was

a cover-up operation for other Democrats were involved they hit it Neglectful Sausage says, what aboutism, repeal the 19th? No, that means Don. How do you respond to that, Catalina? Women belong in the kitchen and in Congress, okay?

What do you think about Anna Paulina Luna's bill to allow mothers to vote remote from Congress if they have babies? Hono's a great friend of mine. You know, that's an interesting one, and I'll tell you why. You know, the argument to that was against it, rather, was, well, we women have, you know, women have to work and, and things like that. Well, she, like, for, as a mother, she had to literally go to D.C. every week when she had a newborn. What if you have a child that has an issue with, you quit? You're going to, you're going to lose a lion, like Anna over something. Indeed.

Okay. If you want to open the door to Congress remote voting under the Civil Rights Act, then the Democrats are going to say, then you have to allow everyone to vote remote no matter what, and then Congress disappears. There should be a balance, and there was a balance in that particular provision. She had a limited time. Imagine any other job. You know what I mean? Like it's a firefighter, and it's like a woman, and she's like, I'm going to have a baby. Now you've got to pay me.

I'm not going to come to work. I'm going to work firefight remote. It's like, look, you have a job, but you're expected to be there. don't bring your kid to work. That's like the craziest than the other Democrat lady was like, look at my son. He has to be here in Congress with me. No, he doesn't. Get a babysitter.

Okay, well, that was different. That was also, I think it was also. That's the same argument. But I think it was also heavily sensationalized on Twitter, too. Like, I think it's an important thing. That was something that she cared about. And, you know, I think it was overly sensationalized on Twitter. Like, if you want to have a baby, quit.

Men don't breastfeed. Like, this is, you know, the problem I have with it is largely, it's this gender-neutral garbage where it's like I just had a kid I know I am going I'm learning and there are many many more of many more kids than I did and know a lot more than I do but oh wow do babies need moms and I changed my opinion on surrogacy which was rather fensitory and now I'm absolutely opposed to it and because newborn babies need mothers they they they they we babies formula is fake formula is a lie formula is a trick babies are surviving but they are not thriving so this idea that we're going to be like, no, women can be in Congress and have baby the same time.

I'm like, I'm not doing this. Women can be in Congress all they want. But if you have a baby, it doesn't matter what job you have, you go take care of your baby. But what if you can do both? No, you can. Yeah, look at Caroline Levitt. She's a complete powerhouse on the stage. Does she bring her baby to the stand of the press? She started working three days. She's holding her baby at the press podium. That Democratic representative did that. But she's not doing that. However, she is a mom. She hasn't asked to work remote. She had a baby. She had a baby. And did she, did she go home and say, I'm going to Zoom call the press? She worked like three days after.

So we got no issue. Yeah, but it's more, it's the voting. It's more nuanced. Anna Paulina Luna said, I should be able to work from home because I had a baby. No, she didn't. That was the bill. That was the bill. Are you joking?

No, it wasn't. That was the bill. First of all, most. What was the bill? What was the bill? What was the bill? It was over a provision. It said allow it over a certain amount.

It was like 10 weeks or something like that. To work remote. It said, giving the option. To vote remote in Congress. Yeah. Which means from home with. your baby. That doesn't necessarily mean that. Oh, it's from the cafe with her baby? Yeah, she well, doesn't. I don't, the idea that anyone would dare say, I should get a special class

provision to vote remotely is so shockingly offensive to me. I called on her to resign. And I like her. I think she's a great member of Congress. One of the best. But if you're going to stand up there and be like, I should get to work remote, the title wave of corruption that opens for her personal issue is so shockingly offensive to me. My response is, how dare you go into Congress and say, I had a baby, so I'm going to vote on bills remotely when we already have a problem of Congress not showing up and spending most of their time fundraising instead of doing their jobs? That's why Congress approval rating is like 13%. It's more offensive to me to lose a lion like Anna over something that she felt so passionate about. Out of all the members of Congress, she's one of the few people who actually sit there and fight for the American people.

every single day on a national platform. She defends the president. She does her job more than, you know, more than 90% of the representatives right now. No, I don't want some loser from a member of Congress that does absolutely nothing, sits there lining in their pocketbooks, doing whatever they want, and being silent on the issues that matter. She can be in Congress and get a powerhouse.

And I'm sure she does. And indeed. But that was a particular. So she was trying to get remote voting in Congress. was a particular issue that she was passionate about. And she was wrong and it's shockingly offensive that she would dare to say, okay, well, I think it's shockingly offensive that we would completely disregard somebody like her over like everything that she's attributed.

What does that mean? You said she, you called on her to resign. If she wants, if she cannot work because she has a baby, then she should resign. That was over a certain amount of weeks here. I don't care. So you disagree, you would vote against it. Can we read more super chats against me? Yeah, I'm just saying.

I want to talk about voting online. If the position is, I struggle to do this job because I have a baby, so I should be able to work from home, quit your job. All right. It's just, Luke, it's just literally everybody yelling. That's fine. I love the debate. Or just don't show up for 10 weeks, you know? This one says, Luke is gay.

Read that one again. I'm kidding. It doesn't say that. What does this one say? Jake says, Luke needs to remember his shirt says America runs on blackmail. Yes. It does. The best political shirts.

But isn't that evil? Aren't you using evil to sell t-shirts? What are you talking about? You're saying something you don't believe in. What kind of Ianism did you just pull off there? You're saying something you don't believe in. That's another one, Ian. I'm sorry.

Or that you don't want. You're like using the negativity to sell t-shirts. Face reality, please. I just did, and you're looking at me. Katoth, so as Lucas ignorant, peace comes from the barrel. That's Chairman Mao. Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of the communist that killed tens of millions of people. But do you believe that peace is derived through strength, and that means weapons of the day?

I think there's a two-prong approach here. Like I said before, the answer is more nuanced carrot stick. And it's that simple. I think pieces derived. We need more diplomacy. Pieces derived through force, but it's sustained through diplomacy. All right, everybody, we're getting close to that time. So smash the like button.

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You're pissing me off. You're constant warm-moderating. I'm sick of this. I'm not going to take it. I'm sick of the graphene crap. Enough. It's just a rock. Get over it.

So enough of you. Big deal. Just kidding, by the way. I love this guy. I love you. We'll ruin some beef at the moment and it's going to be tasty. We'll handle this out in the parking lot. Follow us both.

I'm Ian Crossland. Real Tate Brown on Twitter. But what are you got to say, brother? Keep fighting. Never surrender. Yeah, I'll see you guys next. already, okay? I see the chemistry. Dude, you obviously. What's your, what, where they following at Ian Croslin and, yeah. Eddie and Croslin is on everywhere. And at Real Tate Brown everywhere.

All right. It's time to get out of your guys. Thank you so much for hanging out. This has been an awesome week. Shout out to the turning point team for hosting us. And the guys, Andrew Colvitt, Jack Posobic and the Charlie Kirk show. It means the world to me that you had us out here. You supported us to come and collaborate with you in this way. See, I said collaborate. So I really do appreciate it. Next week's going to be a blast with a bunch of guest hosts. It's going to get wild. Thanks for hanging out, and we'll see you all on Monday. Thank you.