Timcast IRL - Trump DOJ Gives Ghislaine Maxwell Limited IMMUNITY As She Rats On 100+ People w/ Kyle Seraphin

Episode Date: July 26, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Ian are joined by Kyle Seraphin to discuss the DOJ granting limited immunity to Ghislaine Maxwell, Democrat Schumer slamming the DOJ for interview with Ghislaine Maxwell, new women's "Tea App" being hacked, and American Eagle stock soaring after Sydney Sweeney ad campaign.   SUPPORT THE SHOW BUY CAST BREW COFFEE NOW - https://castbrew.com/ Join - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLwNTXWEjVd2qIHLcXxQWxA/join Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Ian @IanCrossland (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guests: Kyle Seraphin @KyleSeraphin (X) Stephen @Stambo2A (X)

There's conflicting reports, but according to her lawyer and statements, she was asked about 100 individuals and gave up information on whatever she was asked about. And for this, the DOJ granted her conditional or limited immunity, which is very interesting. Now, apparently, Ghislaine Maxwell is going to seek a pardon in exchange for information. And where it gets real spicy, Chuck Schumer is losing it. He's posting on X thatTet, no one should allow the DOJ to be meeting with Ghislaine Maxwell. Why? What are they now freaking out about? This is the weirdest story. Okay, first you get the

Trump people basically pumping it up throughout the campaign, we got to release the files. Then they get in and say, no, no, we can't do it. Then the Democrats say, you got to release the files. Then Trump says, okay, we're gonna do it and we're gonna go interview Ghislaine Maxwell. And then Chuck Schumer was like, no, stop, don't. It's like they're just playing chicken with each other. Neither really want these files to come out. But I guess if you play chicken with Trump, you're going to lose. We'll see what happens. We got that news. We got a bunch of funny news. There's apparently a report from the New York Post that an alien vessel is on its way to attack

Earth. I'm not kidding. It's actually in the New York Post. It's a potentially alien hostile force or something. You know, if it's true, then you'll make fun of me. I hear it's got the Epstein files on it. And that's what, they're coming to get them, actually. They're gonna take them away. So, I guess we'll talk about all of that. Yeah, there's other news too.

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member of our Discord but don't forget, smash that like button, share the show with everyone, you know? We got a couple of guests joining us tonight. We got Kyle Seraphin. Hey Tim, how's it going? It's going well. How are you? What are you doing? I'm great. Folks, I used to be an FBI agent. Now I run a podcast and I'm also suing the government.

So we're having an interesting time right now. There's a lot of FBI news as usual, and pretty interesting to see that we're going to be talking about Ms. Maxwell. I haven't seen a lot of FBI news as usual and pretty interesting to see that we're gonna be talking about Ms. Maxwell. I haven't seen a lot of proffers happen after somebody is already convicted. It turns out to be not the way you usually go about it. Very interesting.

We saw the dag actually say that this is the first time someone from the DOJ has talked to her ever. Whoa. That was his public post and tweet the other day. That's weird. Very backwards. So I'll look it up. You brought a friend with you. I did's weird. Very backwards. So I'm looking for it.

You brought a friend with you. I did. Who are you? Hey, I'm Steven Stamboli. I'm a second amendment attorney. Right on. And so you also sue the government. All the time.

That's my job. So we can have more guns. That's fantastic. 100%. Right on. Well, thanks for hanging out. It's gonna be a blast. Ian's here.

Hey man. And I was thinking, I've been thinking of the world as like a game of civilization. I don't know who guys ever play. I feel like we're winning, the American people are winning the culture war. If it's just, if we keep going at this pace, our culture is the best and keeps getting better.

So it's just a matter of holding it together, keeping the country safe, keeping people happy. I personally like science. So I use culture to expand my borders while I can then use the production capacity to increase my science output. I feel like that's the best victory path. All across the world, millions of eyebrows just raised

because they have no idea what you just said. Well, the point is we've won, the culture war is, we're in the process of winning it, so hold it together. Keep reality sane and stable to the best of your ability because this American culture, since TV was invented, I mean, it is like a skyrocket, dude. I just heard trust the science. That's what I heard you say.

Nevermind government for the people, by the people, since TV was invented. Yeah, the brainwashing. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

Let's get into it. Here's a story from the New York Post, ladies and gentlemen. Ghislaine Maxwell gave DOJ info about 100 different people linked to Jeffrey Epstein, lawyer says. Notorious sex criminal Ghislaine Maxwell answered questions in the DOJ about 100 different people linked to Jeffrey Epstein, an attorney for the disgraced socialite claimed Friday. Following two days of interrogation by Todd Blanch, David Oscar Marcus told reporters

that his client, currently serving a 20 year sentence after being convicted in Manhattan of federal sex trafficking conspiracy charges, was asked about every possible thing you could imagine. This was the first opportunity she's ever been given to answer questions about what happened. The truth will come out about what happened with Mr. Epstein, and she's the person

who was answering those questions. Blanch had every single question answered during the sit down, Maxwell's attorney also said, with the British born convict declining to plead the fifth. Now there's also been a report that she was granted limited immunity. Now, how does that, do you know how this work Kyle? You were a law enforcement guy.

Well, yeah, usually it's the other way around. Usually what happens is somebody is accused of a crime. And so they come out and they get what's usually called like queen for a day or king for a day status. So they get to talk about whatever it is, they can't be held liable for whatever they disclose as long as they're helping some other case. And that's usually like small fish going after bigger fish, right? So you want to get information about something.

It's not very common and I don't know that I can think of a good example of where you said, hey, by the way, we've got you in jail for or in prison for the next 20 years and you got five years of Super Advice released after that. But we'd also like some other stuff that we never talked to you about previously, so maybe you could give it to us. That limited immunity, I don't know what she would be liable for even.

Because if you go back and read, and I actually pulled it up here because I was curious, the press release about her sentencing, like her crimes go back to 2004. The window that she was actually convicted of, of trafficking young girls was 1994 in or about to 2004. So we're now 21 years away from the crimes. There was no statute of limitations on it, but at the end of the day, the only people mentioned in the entire press release,

in the sentencing, in the trial, which was a month long jury trial, people forget, but she actually was tried and convicted by a jury. Like nobody else was mentioned. It was her and Epstein, period. And Epstein's no longer with us, allegedly, maybe. Allegedly, maybe. It seems such an opportunity for them to go,

hey, Ghislaine Maxwell said it was these people, now put it to bed. Now, therefore that's something like, dude, she was complicit in the crime with the guy. Why do you think she's gonna talk? Why do you think she would give accurate, or why hasn't she yet? Let me ask you a question, Ian.

When a guy who's in prison, all of a sudden says, oh, you know that guy you're prosecuting? He confessed to me. I will testify if you take time off my sentence. Yeah, they can negotiate that out. Like you said, the pardon night. Do we believe those people? You better have some,

something that backs up more than just your words. If it's just hearsay or an over here and you can't substantiate it any further. So it's actually really simple. Ghislaine Maxwell, first, the curious thing is she's, the DOJ has never talked to her before? Well, that was, so the guy who's the number two at the DOJ is a guy named Todd Blanch, right?

And so that's the deputy attorney general. And he posted this on X. He said, no one from the justice department has ever spoken to this woman about this before. I actually think he said, has spoken about her ever, which doesn't make any sense because FBI agents arrested her in July of 2020. You know, she clearly would have been questioned.

She could have, you know, invoked her right to an attorney and just stayed quiet. That's possible. But no one ever questioned her ever. That doesn't sound reasonable at all. All of this stuff has been this kind of boomer theater for me. I hate saying that, but my parents are boomers and I love them.

But a lot of the words that are being used, like, oh, there's the Epstein files. And I think people think that there must be drawers full of paper files. And they have a truckload of documents. Like the FBI and the DOJ trade files the same way that you do. They're on a computer somewhere, they're on a server hosted in the cloud and they could be accessed from New York or they could be accessed from the director's office or from

the attorney general's office. So all this stuff has been kind of playing on there's a bunch of these videos, what's in the videos. We saw Pam Bondi basically saying over and over again, there's more and more stuff. She kept hyping it. If you watch what happened from the FBI side though, Bongino and Patel were actually deescalating. Every time they sat down,

it looked like they were sitting on pins and needles. They were like sitting on like a tack board and they were really uncomfortable because they were gonna have to answer a question that their boss was basically saying there's a bunch of this stuff. And then we ended up with that big bombshell that, oh, there's nothing.

People lost their minds about it, which is reasonable. And now we're here. I wonder if Ghislaine Maxwell is thinking, oh, so they're coming after you, Trump, huh? I can say anything and it's gonna play, right? I think Democrats are saying that right now too. That's what they're trying to claim, is that they can't trust her.

It's reasonable to say that, to be fair. You can't trust her. It's Ghislaine Maxwell. She's in prison for 20 years. What happens if she gives a statement and Trump and the DOJ come out with new documents from witness testimony that says it was actually Adam Schiff or Liz Cheney and Raskin

who were coordinating with Epstein. And they say, well, this is corroborated witness testimony. If there's there's a million one conspiracy about what's actually going on. One of them is that this is the the pro-Trump side conspiracy that Democrats put unverified hearsay in there that smears Trump so that he can't release it right because it'll be damaging to him. If that is the case or even if Trump is actually in this his opportunity now is to go to Ghislaine, have her offer up statements,

which can overwrite any existing documents and be the documents. Or put it in context, which is probably most likely if I had to guess. Like I'm sure that Trump's name has to be in the same. Yes, but when Trump says, I'm gonna release the files, he releases his files that he made right now in his DOJ that implicates his enemies.

There's a continuum of possible truth because we don't actually have access to any of the things that the FBI has and they've obviously not decided to share it with us. So somewhere on, let's say the right end of this spectrum is the entirety of the criminal conspiracy was a man and a woman who were sickos that were going after young girls that were post-pubescent but they were underage and that's what the

trafficking operation was and it ended in 2004. That could be the possibility. Like that's one end of it. The other end of it is is like this vast criminal conspiracy that stretches across the entire globe where all these global leaders are implicated and everybody is being blackmailed and there's sexual material on all these people. And so you've got that. And the reason why I think the Americans are so dialed in and why they're not going to let this go, which I think was a miscalculation on the Trump administration's part, I think they saw it and thought something was going to happen. They could use some of the influencers and some of the media people to just go, hey,

let's just put this to bed. These people that you trust said no, that didn't work. And I think the reason is because there's this three things that are kind of hitting in a car crash, the worst case scenario. You've got elite level people, so people that have more money than God, and they operate at a different level, and we already kind of suspect

that they have a different justice system. Then you have the possibility of corruption being involved, so government doing things that it shouldn't do and giving people special treatment because of that money. And then lastly, children being hurt. But we keep saying children because that's what the, you know, the sort of verbiage is out in all the podcasts fears and everything else.

But we're talking about, if we're being honest, we're talking about 15, 16, 17 year old girls. They're very young. They make terrible decisions, just like all of us did at that age. So, but it's not quite the same as like, imagine like an eight year old girl. But these, it is a different thing.

So, you know. The documents suggest that Ghislaine Maxwell was asking, you know, young women and if they wanted to be models. As young as 14. So yeah, it's- And putting them on a plane, and then once they're on the island, they're like, you're an underage hooker now. You can read like what they had them do,

and it was very graphic in the actual conviction, and it involves specific touching. You can, it involved, I'm not gonna read it. It's illicit. So if people wanna go see it, DOJ has it out there. You can go out and read the press release of what her actual conviction was for. But what it is very, very light on, in fact,

to the point where there's nothing other than her and Jeffrey Epstein, there's only two people mentioned there. There's no co-conspirators, which would substantiate what the FBI put out. But at the end of the day, you got a big problem there, too, because two of the guys that are running the FBI spent a couple of years telling us something was different. Something very different was true, and a lot of people have accepted

these things as fact. And they've also accepted that this guy is an Intel asset, that Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf and of intelligence service. And whether that's true or not, the actual thing that people continue to quote was something that Alex Acosta said allegedly, because somebody else quoted him,

it's like second or third, I don't even know how far you go out for hearsay, but it was apparently something he said during a vetting process for a cabinet position in Trump's first administration and everybody hangs their hat and we're like, well, that's definitive. It turns out that's actually not evidence. That's like some guy said something that he said he thought he heard. What was the thing that got said? They said that Epstein was an intelligence asset that allegedly got said, but no one, he was, he was told to back off because Epstein belongs to intelligence.

But that's, again, that is somebody heard the guy, supposedly, who said it, and I haven't heard Alisacoste come out and say that he said that. So it's now, like I said, it's in the sphere of people just accept it as fact. Well, how come nobody's subpoenaing any of these people? How come no one's calling them to testify before Congress?

It's all grandstanding with binders and voters. Oh, I totally agree with that, because here's the problem. The reason is we already got the definitive statement from DOJ unless something dramatically changed. Right. They actually said the case is closed. We're done with it. There's no further indictments coming.

There's no co-conspirators. There's no blackmail or client list. And I don't know why you guys are still talking about it. And then Trump called everybody a weakling that still wanted to talk about it. So this has been like Mike Howell, who works over at Oversight Project. And they're a spin-off from Heritage Foundation.

He was like, if you wanted to teach a class on the worst possible messaging of a public handling of a case, this is the one. It is so damn sloppy. Trump is normally very, very smooth with his words, but ever since Abrego Garcia, he's like, he has MS-13 printed on his knuckles. And he's totally wrong. I think the shame is like, either is, either he's on that list and he's using this to cover that up,

or something is, he's just living in shame. Your point about him being really good at this stuff is well taken because he's a master marketer. He comes from the entertainment world where marketing is super important, his brand is worldwide, and it's all because of Donald Trump's decisions. To blow it this bad, I think is part of why people are like,

what's going on? Agreed. I mean, it could be as simple as people have just basically downplayed it. Who wants to be the guy that gives that guy bad news about something? Like, hey, we were talking about it as a lead up in the campaign.

Your son hyped it. Your current FBI director hyped it. Your deputy director hyped it. You've got your attorney general out there currently still hyping it talking about this thing. And by the way, sir, there's nothing there. We don't have what you think we have. And all we really have is a couple little documents.

And one of them says, you know, it's either a Trump donor or a Trump in there. And it could be in a totally innocuous thing. But just having your name in the quote, unquote files that everyone now imagines are these truckloads of documents, It's a smear at this point. So you look terrible. Yep. Nobody and it's not like we're dealing with honest operators. We're going to be seeing people from the left, which we continue to see throughout the last two or three weeks. They suddenly really desperately care except Chuck Schumer, who now doesn't want it, which as you said, that's a

fun reversal because a few seconds ago they were screaming about it. Well, let's pull this up. We've got this from the Hill. Schumer condemns DOJ meeting with Maxwell, stinks of high corruption. Now hold on there, gosh darn minute. Democrats were demanding we expose the Epstein files. So the DOJ says, we are going to dig into this. Trump says, get the grand jury testimony, whatever's credible, put it out there. They said, we're going to go talk with Ghislaine. And now the Democrats are freaking out.

Could it be that they played a game of chicken with Donald Trump because neither party wants this information released? And now they're realizing Trump's going to do it. I think that as long as they keep this floating and as long as there's not actual evidence to put it to bed where it's like they're not going to get the grand jury testimony out of Florida. The judge already denied it. They're probably not going to get it out of New York either. That's the way grand juries work. They're supposed to work and they're operating in secrecy. So you're not going to likely see that. So as long as you can keep that going, you're going to have people that are excited about it. They're going to speculate about it. It's a political win for them as long as it's out

there. Because I was on with Alex Jones the other day and he was like, can you give me any good news? Like, is anybody winning? I'm like, yeah, of course people are winning. But you know who's winning? The people that are not in the news. The people that are actually like uncovering actual corruption, which got done.

People like Secretary Wright over at DOE. There are people that are doing good work. They just don't do it on Fox. And that's the way most governments have run for all of my lifetime and all of everybody else's lifetime. Because you usually don't go and try to adjudicate your successes on Fox News every single night.

That's not usually the way that these things. How many times have you ever seen an interview with an attorney general in one month? What's the most you've ever seen? I mean, I can't even think of a month. Before Bondi, never. Exactly. You never saw Merrick Garland running out there

and running to see if he could sit down with MSNBC. Maybe he did a weekend show or something. Unless they had some political smear to launch the last minute before election. Exactly. That's it. It just doesn't happen in this way. So we're seeing something totally different and now people are like, they're like, okay, if the game has changed, then I want to see more.

Like now you need to give us total transparency. At the end of the day, the real work of government continues on, you know, whether we like it or not. And it's just not done on Fox. My concern, it's a bit conspiracy oriented, Mike, is that because you mentioned earlier how these girls that Epstein was trafficking and Ghislaine were trafficking or I don't know if trafficking is the right word, but they weren't pre-PBES in trafficking technically. No, no, literal trafficking is when someone is taken to a place to be forced to do work

that they are, that they don't want to do. There's something about crossing borders, I think, that delineates between smuggling and trafficking. Smuggling is when, like, so a person who's an illegal immigrant and wants to come to the US and gets smuggled in, that smuggling trafficking would be, they're brought here to do labor. So if you're taking young girls

and tricking them to go to an island to do sex work, you're trafficking them. So they, it seems like they weren't prepubescent. So it's not pedophilia. That indicates prepubescent. We talked about this last week, actually. It was a Phil's laughing. And I think a lot of people involved.

Nobody really makes the distinction in their head. The people involved are like, if this gets out, my name gets put on a list, and people think I'm a pedophile. You know how pedophiles get treated. So they're going to the ends of the earth to cover it up. When in reality, 14-year-old women, age of consent in a lot of countries, giving a guy a massage massage and then he thinks he's 18 has sex with her Not pedophilia. It's you have your own emotions about it. But like if we can somehow maybe lower the heat on it

It's better as an argument still elite. It's pederasty, but it's still illegal and there's a reason why It's pederasty. I just want to I just want to say I just want to say something very carefully and clearly for you, Ian. The distinction you are trying to draw says a lot about what you want, because society largely disagrees with everything you just said. That's true.

Pedophilia is post-pubescent. Typically when you see people like Stephen King or whoever else, you know, cause he wrote those creepy books talking about that stuff, when people are publicly trying to draw distinction between what it means to be sleeping with underage women, ninety nine point nine percent of people in this country are like, why are you bringing that up? Because none of us agree with you.

You're flying too close to the sun, Ian. I'm like, yeah, well, you know, this is where the keys are. No, Ian, you're telling on yourself. It's not a 17 year old underage girl is not pedophilia. Not like a six-year-old girl. Most people in this country disagree with you. And it's also a strict liability crime in almost every single state.

So that means it doesn't matter whether you know or not the age, if they are under the age of consent, it is considered statutory rape. So just so you understand the legality of it, you get your sideways of it on cultural norms. I do understand the distinction you're making. There are legal ages of consent in other places, 16 years old sometimes.

Even in the United States. But in the United States. In West Virginia, literally. We generally look at the age of majority being 18. And then anything under whatever the age of consent is, it's almost always a strict liability crime, which means whether you knew it or not, whether she was someone who went through puberty at 11 or 12 and blossomed and looks like a young woman.

And yeah, everyone's been to a public pool. I'm actually a father. I'm constantly disgusted by what dads will have their daughters out there in the world looking like. I'm like, good God almighty. Your 16-year-old looks like 25. That doesn't still put you within, just because someone looks older, it doesn't correct it on the legal side. This is important.

In 30 states and DC, it's 16. So most of the United States. And the reason is, the reason they do that is so that way- Which is why they mentioned 14, by the way, in the- Only 13 states have an age of 18 consent. But the reason they do that is so that way, 18 year old teenage boys, essentially 17, 18 year old boys, that if they have sex with their 16 year old girlfriend,

it doesn't ruin their life. That's called the Romeo and Juliet exemptions and they exist in most things. That's not why, that's not, oh it's an exemption. A 19, and so I'm pretty sure this is, this is like, Illinois is a good example. I can't speak for other places. If a 19 year old is in a relationship

with a 16 year old in Illinois, that's a Romeo and Juliet exemption because they're both going to the same school, they're around the same age. Or it's like they met in high school and the kid graduated so they cut slack I think it's if it's within three years they you get a Romeo and Juliet exemption so then why so this what's the point of 16 then some states set it at 16 that's broken he was 14 for a long time yeah like I grew up in Mississippi right so then they raised it. Legitimately. That's broken. Mississippi was 14 for a long time.

I grew up in Mississippi, right? So then they raised it to 16. When? It didn't feel like it was that long ago. I don't know the exact date, but I do know that they raised it. I mean, it's a weird conversation, but I like it. It's like age and time is motion,

and people change and grow at different rates. That's a biological reality, especially with like hormones. Right, which is why, that's a biological reality, especially with like hormones. Right, which is why, that's why they put a baseline at the lowest level and say, this is like, as low as it should be appropriate. It changes culturally, I get what you're saying, but at the end of the day, at the United States,

the other thing that's getting really weird too is that child pornography laws come into play sometimes, because everybody is involved with smartphones and transmission of images. You fall underneath the federal statute under a certain age and you transmitted to someone who's above, now you're in really bad shape and you may be within the age of consent in your own state.

Oh, that's messed up. There was a story recently. This used to happen with Polaroids back in the day. There was a case when I was in high school, I knew a guy who had gotten a Polaroid of a girlfriend or something. It was a huge scandal in this little town and he was 17, I think she was 17.

And they went after her for child pornography. There was a story out of Illinois where two, there was like a 14 year old girl and a 12 year old boy, and they were Snapchatting each other. And when the parents got angry, and because the parents of the 12 year old boy that called the police, the police said, we're gonna arrest your son for child pornography too, unless you, if you really wanna go down this route, because the law of the 12 year old boy that called the police the police said we're gonna arrest your son for child pornography too

Unless you if you really want to go down this route because the law doesn't draw distinction and the parents what no and they yeah It doesn't scandal. Yeah, no, it's and your transmission So anytime you hit anything that's interstate then you start becoming really every there was a there was a story We serve and that so that when it becomes a federal issue So there's a story a story recently where I think the guy was 20, and he met a woman at a bar who was 17, but she had a fake ID, and they went and had sex. And then later, I forget how it came to light,

he gets arrested. The mother of the woman he slept with, who was at the time not a woman, she was 17 at the time, then it was like a year later she was in court, and her mom testified in his BF that she deceived him and lied to him and the court did not care. And he got-

It's strict liability. Yeah, they don't care. Yeah, and for what it's worth, I was just double checking my math because I had it in my head. But minor under the federal statute, particularly when it comes to images or anything like that and transmission on interstate.

So all your servers, you know, anything, if you were to mail it, I guess that would also be an issue. Minor means anyone under the age of 18. But let's clarify something too, Ian. Again, your distinction is completely immaterial to the fact that there were, let's say a 16 year old, right? Was told by Maxwell, at least this is some of the reported

what they were doing, saying, we're wealthy financiers and we can have you model. And they would go, wow, come on our private jet. Wow, where to? Party on a private island with billionaires. This is amazing. They bring them there and say, now you can't leave unless you have sex with these men.

Yeah, that's a little messed up. It's similar to what, I don't want to drag Andrew Tate. Oh, it's messed up. Little. But like Andrew, I was saying it was similar to what Andrew Tate was doing with those girls to come do his chat cam girls.

And then he'd get them there and apparently would keep them against their will or that was maybe the insinuation. It's one thing if you make them have sex with someone that's like- Well, I will say this. The challenging thing about the Tate case is that those, I think the charges all failed every time they've brought them up and several women have testified in his defense. So say whatever you want about them. I don't know as much. Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted. Andrew Tate was actually, the charges fell apart.

Yeah. The Ghislaine thing, and I'll bring up Lex Westner. I don't know how involved he was. He runs Victoria's Secret or ran it at the time. And there was a put throughput, I believe, from the Maxwell and Victoria's Secret. They were like buddies. I don't know the extent of their relationship. So the way that that, and this is one of the reasons why people ask because it's like quote-unquote unexplained wealth is the big story in Jeffrey Epstein's case. So just the quick primer on it is he was a teacher at the Dalton School, which is a very fancy private school in New York. He had no college degree and he theoretically wouldn't even have been

in line to be teaching there. But he was hired and this is where you start getting into famous name theater, but he was hired by Donald Barr, who is the attorney, the former attorney general's dad, Bill Barr. Okay. So Donald Barr was the headmaster, apparently hired Jeffrey Epstein with no college degree to teach math and physics. And then Donald Barr left. Jeffrey Epstein started his first terms, was there for a little while. And then after he was there for a little bit, he inexplicably makes the leap from non-credentialed high school teacher at very expensive private school to investment banker at Bear Stearns. And the claim is that the CEO of Bear Stearns Child was either tutored by or one of his friends, his kid's friends was tutored by Epstein, saw talent and brought him into Bear Stearns. He did

that for a couple of years. Then he jumps into this asset recovery company that he created. And then somewhere in that couple of years years in the early 1980s, he suddenly is the guy who is in charge of all of Les Wexner's financial investments to the point where in 1991, Les Wexner, who, as you said, owned The Limited and then Victoria's Secret was one of the companies as well, and the guy was a multi-billionaire, he signed over his power of attorney for all financials to Jeffrey Epstein. I think the year was like 1991. Somebody will fact check me on that, but it's right around there, which

makes no sense whatsoever. And Les Wexner also gave him the famous penthouse or the apartment that he had in New York City, which people don't know why he did that. It was like a $50-something million property in the 1990s, and he just signed it over to him, free and clear. So all of that made people ask questions. That's where a lot of the intelligence questions

came in, in addition to the fact that Maxwell's's where a lot of the intelligence questions came in, addition to the fact that Maxwell's dad had a bunch of people from the Israeli intelligence service attend his funeral. So you've got all these strange things. It's tons of smoke. There's very little in the way of concrete facts. And nobody knows how the guy became worth close to a billion

dollars, if he was, because it's not the way people do business. You don't go from being a high school teacher to being a trader to being a guy who is then privately managing a billionaire's wealth and Then he also received flat fees in the millions of dollars a year as opposed to based on performance Which is the way most people get all of that's really strange. Who got his money after he died. Who's that?

Epstein so the estate is still out there and it's been contested by a number of the victims that have claimed. And there's something like 150 or 200 victims that have gone out there and filed claims. So all the young women that were apparently involved in this. And they're briefly mentioned in Maxwell's, going back to the original topic. They're briefly mentioned.

I just want to read you, if you don't mind, from the sentencing document, so you get an idea of what they were saying they did. They said that Maxwell attempted to befriend certain victims, asking them about their lives, their schools, their families, taking them to the movies on shopping trips, and then acclimated them to Epstein's conduct by being present as the victims interacted with Epstein, which

put the victims at ease, providing a certain amount of assurance and comfort that there was an adult woman there. So all this was very grooming-like behavior. And then they go on to talk about those things you said, paying for travel, educational opportunities, encourage them to accept Epstein's assistance and whatever it was, making the victims feel

like they were indebted. So all of this is very aggressive, grooming-type behaviors. And it goes back to 1994, when he's already got a ton of money and he's tied in with the people you were just talking about. So the story of Epstein is, I think, fascinating to people mostly because it's a lot of money. There's not a lot of explanation why he has it,

how he got into those positions, his interest in young women, whether you agree or not, like, it's younger than is acceptable by most of American society. And then you get to the final place where he goes into a jail cell and 30 days in kills himself. And there's all this lore around it, which is far more than what you ever see in the court. What is this?

You said Lex Westner signed over power of attorney of his fight? What does that mean exactly? He gave him power of attorney, which means that he had the same authority to make decisions as less himself would. With his finances. With his finances.

He could invest all Lex's money in his own company and that would be completely legal? Yeah, and what's interesting is he was actually, apparently he left his job at Bear Stearns for an insider trading problem. He like lends somebody some money while he was doing some insider trading stuff to the tune of like 300 grand.

So he got censored and he had to leave. We got a quick addition, not necessarily a correction, but in federal matters pertaining to interstate travel, the age of consent is always 18. And then when they- I think it's a Man Act thing. It goes back to the, which was like a white slave trafficking law. And then the weird thing now we act thing, it goes back to the which was like a white slave trafficking

law. And then the weird thing now we're facing is digital information transfer. Because if an image is seen in a state, and then it goes to a server in Alaska and then comes back to the state, no one ever sees it in Alaska. It's just on a server.

And the person only sees it here and here on two phones in the same state. Technically, the image never the electricity left the state. They do that as part of the argument when they do these filings and they actually argue it in court that the servers exist in these places. Let's say if you want to do a federal case on guns, for example, they will make the argument that it is a federal matter simply because the gun was not made in the state that you're in and therefore

it had to be trafficked in there. So if you live in a state outside of Georgia and you have a Glock, then you have now found yourself in an interstate commerce situation. These lines are very, very. Commerce clause needs to be repealed to fix that goddamn thing. It definitely shouldn't be used as justification for federal law enforcement to be able to grab everything that goes outside of the state.

And so in the case of what you're talking about, anything that touches the telco wires, touches a server, touches a cloud, even if you theoretically are just you to me, it's assumed to be an interstate matter at that point. It's the means of communication. It doesn't actually have to show that it went anywhere. And so just using that technology

is enough to make it a federal matter. It's a- Whether you like it or not, that's just how it plays out. It's Friday and Ian's here. So we're gonna jump to this next story from the New York Post. It's got aliens. Possibly hostile alien threat detected

in unknown interstellar object, a shocking new study claims. It's the New York Post. The New York Post says, a mysterious intergalactic object could potentially be a hostile alien spacecraft that's slated to attack our planet in November, according to a controversial new study by a small group of scientists.

The consequences, should the hypothesis try to be be correct could be potentially dire for humanity, you think. The researchers wrote in the inflammatory paper which was published July 16th to the preprint server, ARXIV, Southwest News Service reported, and here's a picture. That proves it's aliens. It a it actually it's Galactus mmm those the infinity gems he made them big like his body I like that it was a small number of scientists in a controversial paper yeah dubbed three you know what's funny is I don't know if that's an I or an L dubbed 3L Atlas the interstellar entity was discovered on July 1st rocketing toward the Sun at more than 130,000 miles per hour.

Less than 24 hours later, it was confirmed to be an interstellar object with initial observation, suggesting it could be a comet measuring up to 15 miles in diameter, larger than Manhattan. Could also be Uber Eats Galactic. However, in the paper, the trio of researchers suggested it might be a piece of extraterrestrial spy technology in disguise. I mean, comments aren't generally interstellar. They come from the Oort cloud, and the Oort cloud is technically part of our solar system. And they're in orbit. Yeah, and they're in orbit around the sun, so it's not interstellar.

So if this is actually interstellar, it does make it novel, because we don't have things coming from actually... Oom-wah-mwah, whatever. Remember that? Yeah. Oh, the... Oom-wah-mwah thing....planetary... novel because we don't have things coming from actually one whatever remember that yeah, oh the Planetary or knows a big interstellar oblong object 2017 right yeah One wire something that's a long rock what it was called I can picture the AI graphic of it, but I don't know what it was uh ooh muamua there

It is I've been thinking about the spirits. Can the spirits get angry? Do you think spirits can feel emotion? What do you mean by spirits? You have to define your terms. Well, like your subconscious. What? That's a, okay. You know, your subconscious has like thoughts

in its own kind of- Straight up right turn, right? 90 degrees. I think that's like your radio receiver to the spirits. Is, they're all coming through one loud speaker. Do you think that this is spirits? Well, I don't know. I've seen people call for the asteroid twice this week,

and I wonder if there's something about- I always thought they were calling for the sweet meteor of death. Yeah. It's called the SMOD, the SMOD. SMOD. Two of my friends wrote that in on the presidential election. Sweet meteor of death.

That's what they wrote in. They wanted SMOD 2024. Honestly, it's the waiting I can't stand. It's really the worst part of it. That's what they wrote in. They wanted, they wanted smod 2024. Honestly, it's the waiting I can't stand. It's really the worst part of it. That's what it all, it's all comes down to hurry up and wait. The worst part will be once it's announced that it's inbound and then you have to wait for it.

It'll be the funniest thing ever. Just the funniest. If like come November, there's a gigantic ship in the sky coming, people are gonna take clips from the show and boy, are we gonna get roasted. We put it in the New York Post. At that point, we're gonna have such bigger problems. We're gonna be trying to know the only thing we care about is our reputations You got this wrong. Shut up. Stop making fun of me. Make more room in the shelter. I

Mean the entire internet is is just alive with people saying they'll do anything to not release the obscene files This is the distraction. Yeah, and that's what happens. Early this morning, my buddy and I were talking, and we decided that we need three things in this country right now. We need a better class of grifters, we need better psyops, which Elon Musk actually tweeted as well.

And my buddy came to a novel conclusion that is also true. We need better conquerors or villains. He's like, what a terrible time to be alive in 2025. And like back in the day, he used to have like actual strong men dictator, evil people that would come in, they put people's heads on pikes. And we have like Bill Gates,

like quietly plotting like whether or not we're gonna like depopulation. He's got big old moves. It just doesn't look that threatening. Trump can't lie. Okay, so part of me wants to believe all of the, like the aliens is a distraction and Obama's a distraction.

And, you know, Trump is fumbling on purpose because there's a deeper plan here and it's 5D chess. But I think the reality is Trump is just very not good at handling this PR disaster. And the most frustrating thing about it is there's probably a 24 year old marketing intern who could have done it better. We should also probably also give the grace where it is

that he's gotta be exhausted. Oh yeah. Sure. Because being beaten down for 10 straight years where everything you do is scrutinized. Like the other day he went out and talked about how his, his uncle who's no longer with us was a teacher of Fred. Kaczynski. Or was it John, John Trump?

Wait, what? You didn't see her this? Tesla guy? Yeah. The Tesla guy was a teacher of Kaczynski. Well, that's what he claimed. The problem is, is that his uncle died in like 1985 or 1986 and Kaczynski was found in 1996 so like there's a big gap of like no possibilities there.

No one knew who Ted Kaczynski was at the time so nobody could ask that question and he never attended MIT which is where John Trump actually taught. So that's not a true story and at some point in time when you start saying funny things like that and you're just look you get tired and you just start talking He said a lot of things. He's probably not Ben Shapiro's quote about about Donald Trump that when he dies his tombstone We'll say Donald Trump, you know, he said a lot of He had a more colorful term for it, but it definitely seems like he's probably thinking oh my god I'm gonna go through all this and then they're gonna use this stupid Epstein thing to get my name because I was there with Epstein as I've known him and they're gonna try and do me this way,

I'm not letting it happen. Like that feels what's going on right now. Okay, so one of the first things you learn in marketing when you're 18 and you're going to your first college 101 class is they say, in almost every circumstance, your best course of action is to say and do nothing. And Trump is like, I'm gonna do the opposite

and just not shut up for two weeks. That wasn't bad. Hold my beer. That wasn't a bad Trump. Hold my beer. Hold my beer. Yeah, no, he can't do it. This was the argument about Trump 1.0 as well.

Like a little bit of discipline would have gone so far if he had just not said some things. And then, People would have just looked at their 401k at the end of like 2019. They'd be like, man, we're doing really well. That's why I'm like, this has to be on purpose, because there's no way you go, why are you still talking about Epstein?

Nobody cares about Epstein. You're all weak and you're not my supporters. Screw you. And it's like, well, now they're going to talk about it twice as much. The ultimate Streisand effect on that. Right. And Trump knows this. Come on.

And he must feel like I don't need their votes anymore anyway. So I'm out of orbit. That's objectively true. That's not true. He doesn't need their votes anymore anyway, so I'm out of orbit. That's objectively true. That's not true. He doesn't need their votes. I mean, I guess he need the midterm votes. In 2018, Trump was campaigning in the midterms

because he said, I will be impeached if you do not vote for these people. He needs these midterm votes. Yeah, the whole- Didn't they just come out and say, didn't the Democrats just come out and say that they're not interested in impeachment because it would just be-

They are lying. What are you talking about? They only tell us the truth, Phil, and I'm not gonna have that from you. How dare you? They will absolutely impeach him. There's a- I'm just saying, they said it.

There's a profile on me and the company in the Wall Street Journal. Recent? Today, actually. Oh, nice. They came down and took photos. I think they were actually very fair and very nice. I think it was actually,

considering how the media writes about people in this space, I would call it a puff piece, meaning like they didn't insult me, but they did say that we veer into conspiracy territory. And I was talking to the reporter, I said, she asked me like, do you think this is conspiracy? I said, no, I actually think I completely agree with the entirety of the Democratic party

and the liberal media on the Epstein files needing to be released. And for some reason, Trump isn't wanting to to so there's potentially some agenda behind this. And she still wrote that I was like veering into conspiracy territory. But it wasn't like insulting or anything. I just think that it is somewhat frustrating that finally the Democrats are screaming conspiracy and we are all still conspiracy theorists now even if we agree with what they're screaming conspiracy about. So this is my, this is the discussion I actually had this with the driver on the way in.

You can agree with people and have totally different motives. Oh yeah. Right? You could have the idea that you're like, that guy needs to go away and it needs to happen violently. And it could be because you want to take all of his money and you're a thief. But it could also be because he did something really terrible in your town or hurt somebody that you know. And you could have the same exact goal or end. In the case of the government, the Democrats, when it comes to voting for things, they're like, there's not enough puff and government money here.

We're not doing enough bloat. And then you see people on the right that are like, I don't like this bill. It has too much of that. They both vote the same way. They both get smeared the same. So whether you're being fair or not, if you agree with people that you're not supposed to apparently, you get smeared. So are we in agreement then we are

hoping the aliens are coming to destroy us? Yeah, I thought that was assumed. OK, all right. No, no, no. We are becoming aliens, man. We're merging with the machine. Our probes are already on Mars. Is this even a conversation?

You're just like, every time anyone says anything, you're just like, wah! I don't think there's extra aliens. Off on your own. We have the moon. You'd have to find a planet with the moon. We have the moon. You'd have to find a planet with the moon. We have the moon. We do have the moon.

None of this makes any sense. With a moon like ours that can create tides that will allow life to thrive like we are. How do you know, though? How do you know? Have you ever been to the moon? OK, that was a good one. So one of the best, I remember I was driving through Montana

and I was listening to Joe Rogan talking to Alex Jones and it like, you ever have one of those things where someone says something and it expands your mind and it'll never go back to the original size? He's like, I don't think that there's extraterrestrials. I think that all the things that people think are aliens are actually human beings from the future because who else would be more interested in human beings than human beings

at some distant point in the future? And I was like, oh no, like I don't know that it's true and I don't even know that I believe it's true. I just went like, oh man, I've never thought of that as being a real possibility. The theory is that grays are future humans. Okay, do you know the story about the grays with me? No, I don't.

You met one. I was sitting in my boss's office in 2022, my FBI supervisor, I'm on duty, and they've just assigned me to a squad and gave me no work. So he calls me to the op because they were trying to punish me. They put me on a national security squad because they were gonna get rid of me. a squad and gave me no work. So he calls me to the op because they were trying to punish me. They put me on a national security squad

because they were going to get rid of me. This is after my whistleblowing activity. They kicked me out for COVID stuff. Now I'm back in the office. I'm sitting there and I have no work. So I refresh all my paramedic stuff and I get called in the office. My boss sits me down.

He goes, so what sort of work do you want to do here? And I was like, oh, I don't want to be on a national security squad. So I'll do whatever you ask me, but I'm not going to tell you I want to do anything because I don't. And he was like, and it went do do do do do do. So he looks at me, he's looking at me and he goes, well, you got to pick something. And I go, well, I'm not really excited about anything.

And then I, and then I had this little moment about the Dolce base that kicked into my head because one of my buddies, it was also an FBI agent was really excited about it. And so I look over and there's a map of New Mexico. I go, maybe I can go up to the Archuleta Mesa and do some investigations into the Dolce base. Do you think I can get like a travel voucher

to get some proof travel a couple of days, go ask some questions? And he goes, what's the Dolce base? I go, it's one of the Dums. And he was like, I don't know what that is. And I was like, oh, they're the deep underground military bases. There's like a dozen of them around New Mexico.

They're all connected with like a cavernous cave system. And I just, apparently there was a big fight back in the eighties between Delta Force and some of the grays. And so, you know, apparently an FBI agent was actually killed in the gunfire. And so I would like to go and do an investigation on that and see if we can come up with anything

and go check out what happened to our brothers. And he goes, when you say grays, you mean aliens. And I sat there for a second, I looked at him and I go, what do you call them? And he goes, dude, I don't know if you're being serious with me right now. And I was like, me neither. And then I left and they never assigned me anything.

And I don't work there anymore. What if they said- It might've been firing because of the alien question. I'm just saying. You mean you had an opportunity to get in on the X-Files? I tried, tried desperately. That's what I'm telling you. I gave it my best shot and I basically,

they gave me the blank look. And by the way, I went to them. They just were like, what are you talking about? No, no, no, no. After you left, he picks up his phone and he goes, he's onto us. Seraphine's out. Seraphine's out.

Punch his ticket. I was hanging out, thinking about the spirits and I think spirits, because they control the aliens. When you see spirits, I hear spirit airlines. Well, I think the spirit is like the guy playing a video game. We're the character in the video game, the avatar getting moved around, and the spirit airlines. Well, I think the spirit is like the guy playing a video game. We're the character in the video game, the avatar getting moved around. And the spirit is the controller, the guy watching

the TV of us doing our life. So when you see the spirits and they see you and you realize, it'd be like if your video game character turns and looks at you and is like, what the fuck? And then you can interact with your spirit, which is like all of human spirit combined into this one. This is like a fourth wall break. They do this in Hollywood sometimes.

Yeah, and I think. Faux pas until they did Ferris Bueller. I think it's you, aspects of you, but what happens is you grow up, you get old, you die, and then you're born as a spirit. And as a spirit, you grow up, and when you die as a spirit, you become a human. And we're like in this co-partnership.

What is the name of this theology? Aeonism. I don't know. Raj. Raj. Yeah. How well accepted is it? Not at all. In fact, there's a general disdain for it.

It would be accepted under Title VII, just so you know. You can have that. Title VII would assume that you were sincere and genuine in your beliefs. Tax-free? No one doubts Ian. No, there's no tax-free status for it. This reminds me of like a Rogan conversation if he was high. When?

I've never done, yeah, when he's high. I've never done drugs, so I'm like trying to sit here and like from my ace level. Here's the secret, Ian doesn't actually do drugs. I'm not accusing you of doing drugs. I'm just thinking like, my brain can't think in the capacity of the words that you're speaking. It was kind of like Kyle was saying,

have you ever had a conversation that twists your mind open and that it doesn't ever go back? Have you ever given birth to a new thought and it's like that ain't ever shrinking back to its original? I didn't use the give birth, that's not my words. The actual origin story is around 2008, not only did Ian have that conversation, but they grabbed him by the head

and just twisted it into a permanent. That was the salvia that did that. Oh, see, exactly. Like I've never done even that. Yeah, DMT was where I saw the spirits. It was like I was in, we're also in a high frequency. What age were you? Hold on, you think you saw the spirit? See higher frequency?

We don't. I would need to do it. What age were you when you first did this? DMT? Like 44, 45? Okay, I had an interesting phone call from my, I have a half brother who's got nine and a half years on me. And he called me when I was like 23, 45. Okay. I had an interesting phone call from my, I have a half brother who's got nine and a half years on me and he called me when I was like 23 years old.

And he goes, hey man, I was thinking about you. I just want to tell you something. And I go, what? And he goes, your time for psychotropic drugs is over. And I was like, what? And he's like, your window where that would be appropriate for your mind is, it's closed. So you can't do that.

And I was like, why were you thinking about that? And why would you think that was something I was interested in? But he shut me down. And so I'm concerned that you might have experienced that outside of your window. Let's come back to earth and talk about reality. We've got this story from Business Insider.

Ladies and gentlemen, check it out. T app that lets women post anonymous dating reviews was hit by a data breach that exposed 72,000 images. So maybe you guys have seen It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, where Dennis finds out there's this app where women rate men and he's got like a really low score, gets really angry. So he's trying to go around telling women

to give him five star ratings. Well, this is going viral. And this was Callan's idea, but we're introducing a new app. It's called whorefinder, where dudes can rate women they date based on whether they're snooty or DTF. I kept the language a little light on that one. I did. I learned thoroughly enjoyed when I saw the pictures of all the women that were on T because they were exactly what

you would think they were all incredibly unattractive. I was going to say, give us broad strokes here. Just terrible looking. Artificial hair color? Some of that. Ear, things, and face? Mostly bad skin and had never seen the inside of a gym, don't exercise, never say no to cookies.

Are you guys familiar with survivorship bias? No. Yes. I feel like I misheard what he said. Survivorship bias? Ship, got it. Survivorship. So a fighter, a World War I fighter plane returns

and it's got a bunch of bullet holes in the back section and on the wings. And they go, wow, look at where it took damage. We better reinforce that. You know what they didn't realize? The ones that never came back, that's where- Damage somewhere else. Exactly, and that's where they needed to reinforce it. And the ones that took damage know what they didn't realize? The ones that never came back, that's where- Damage somewhere else. Exactly, and that's where they needed to reinforce it.

And the ones that took damage there, it didn't matter. And so the funny thing about this app is I'm sitting here thinking like, yo, if some woman dates a guy, and then he's like, I ain't dating her, and he ghosts her, so then she gives him a bad review. If you go on the T app, ladies, my advice to you is you want the guys with bad reviews. Because these are the guys who didn't

string along and were not interested in the women. Right? Why? Why would you? Why would you want to let's just say that that is a an interesting tactic that you could take, but maybe not the only answer. Well, sure. But my point is pretty sure that I read some of these. They're like the guy was abusive. Review is the guy who abusive. Or like, he was like too antsy. The guy with the good reviews is the guy who keeps stringing the women along. I'm tracking, and no, I understand.

It's an interesting concept, for sure. The guys that get good reviews, the women aren't gonna wanna stop dating them. And they're gonna be upset when the guy breaks up with them. So why would they give anyone a good review? Yeah. I'm imagining that you don't get like a solid review if you date someone for a few minutes and then you're like,

this isn't for me, I'm getting married to this person. No, no, listen. You're probably not on the app anymore, or they might give you a shitty review. The good review is the one the women dumped. Right. So the women dump a guy and then say, you know, he was really nice,

it's just not what I'm looking for, good review. Then the guy who leaves them, they're like, why is he leaving me? He's such a dick, he's a jerk. So the bad reviews are the guys they really wanted and the good reviews are the guys they didn't. Yeah. Matt, if the quality of your character was relevant

of how horrible you've treated people in life, that would be... This app is definitely not about how people are treated. It's all about... No, this is like Gossip Circle that is being done in cyberspace. It's all about how those women felt. Because these women don't have real friends. If they had real friends, you wouldn't be on the T app.

You would just talk to your friends about it. Or cold, man. Or if they had babies. If they had babies, you don't have time to talk about it either, because you're busy dealing with your babies. Talking to your baby. Yeah. There's a lot of misplaced, like, maternal energy in this.

Sometimes you see it too, out there in the world, where it's like, that thing that you're doing that you're so passionate about, I really wish you were doing it for your child because that's what you're trying to do. And we're a man only space in here. So I feel very comfortable saying that, but like that actually is a woman loving position

because we're recognizing a discomfort and an unhappiness. I see a lot of women out there that I'm like, God, I just wish you had the thing that you want. It's a very good insight. That is a very good insight. And I want me from a place of women out there that I'm like, God, I just wish you had the thing that you want. Yeah, very good insight. That is a very good insight. And I will. Let me put a place of like, of concern.

So I wanna explain to you guys. When I go places in public, I'm not trying to humble brag or anything, but I get recognized quite a bit. And so there are some venues I go, the whole staff, I'll go to a restaurant sometimes. And when they bring my food, like, here you go, Tim. And I'm like, oh, they didn't say anything.

They knew I was. When people come up to me on the street and they're like, hey man, you know, it's usually guys. If it's a woman, she's like, my husband's a big fan of yours and I watch sometimes. That's how women act towards my baby. Yeah.

When my baby and we're on the street, the women are like, oh my God, it is, can I meet your baby? It's like having a puppy, except it's better. It's like having like a celebrity. We, you're getting in the elevator and the women are all like looking over and trying to see the baby.

And they're like, can I look at the baby? They'll talk to the baby before they talk to you. Yeah, of course. Like babies are celebrities to women. And there's, and what irks me is that feminists have made that phrase an insult. I, it is in no way derogatory, disrespectful to women to say they love babies.

It is magic. But feminists get offended at the notion that men are like, ah, you love babies. And they're like, shut up, I'm a girl boss. I've been talking about lending my four-year-old out to my buddy who's my age and single because my son is unbelievably cute. He has this like, I botched his haircut

because I'm a terrible hair cutter. You shouldn't let your dad's cut it, but like who cares, he's like a little kid. So I cut it really badly. So now it's unbelievably cute. He has this like, I botched his haircut because I'm a terrible hair cutter. You shouldn't let your dads cut it, but like who cares, he's like a little kid. So I cut it really badly. So now it's growing out. So he's got like the surfer flow, right? He's super cute. He has absolutely no boundaries.

He'll walk up to the prettiest women in like, at a park or like at a restaurant. He'll start talking to them. He'll touch their legs. He'll just hang out there. Like he'll sit on a bench next to them and put his hand on their thigh. It's unbelievable.

And then like, you know, like my buddy, Uncle Carl could run up and be like, hey, what's up little buddy? Like, what are you doing? I'm so sorry. Is this your son? No, this is my buddy's son. Babysitting, I'm so sorry. I'm just being a good uncle, here I am.

I also love kids. I can't wait to have one of my own, you know? It's called Big Daddy. It is a reason why they made rom-coms out of it because kids are, especially very young, like probably five and under, yeah, women fixate on this thing for a reason why they made rom-coms out of it because kids are, especially very young, like probably five and under, yeah, women fixate on this thing for a reason. It's almost like they're programmed for that sort of thing.

The whole feminist movement killed women, I think. Yes, and femininity. Yeah, just- Absolutely. Who in their right mind wants to send their wife to work in a nine to five or eight to five or whatever they are now? Not me. Stay at home, raise your family,

and let the husband go to work and make money and take care of everything. I mean, it's very 1950s. Fight bears for it. Yeah, I mean, there is the fact that- I fight the bear, you raise the baby. That's the deal. There is the fact that because of the way

that the federal government has treated our monetary policy, it's tough for individual men to make enough money to pay for a family and stuff. The incentive is all there for women to work, so that way the government can tax women as well. Sure, please, please. So I'm 46. My first job out of law school,

I was making like 35 bucks an hour. I mean, I was just barely making any money. Even in Mississippi, that's not enough to live on But we sold my truck that I had went down to one car because couldn't afford to have two My wife still stayed at home, uh, and you know took care of the house. She was a Newly we were newlyweds, right? so People can make you know make a go at it with less It's just that they don't want to they want want a brand new iPhone and they want nice cars.

Like I drive a 2012 Accord with 250,000 miles on it. But you know, I don't have a car payment. I don't have a car payment. So like if I wanted to go buy a new car, I could go buy it, but then I have to pay every month for something. And then I might have to say, hey, baby, I didn't make enough money this month

because of Kyle, right? Because of me, probably. I'm not sure how I got blamed, but I'm for it. I'll take the blame. I'm happy to. For some reason. But you know, and then she'd have to go get a job and go to work.

But people do not want to hear it when you say go down to one car. And I had my wife take me to work a lot of times as a lawyer after we had my daughter, because we couldn't afford a second car at that point. And it was so important for me to have my wife stay home with my kid, because we couldn't afford a second car at that point, and it was so important for me to have my wife stay home with my kid, teach her stuff. I mean, dude, my daughter is 13 years old

and speaks Japanese, Arabic, and is taking Mandarin right now, and she started her. Impressive. It's unbelievable, but we. Do you homeschool your kids? F, yeah. Yeah. F, yeah. Awesome. I don't know, can I say the F word on you?

No, just leave it off. Okay. That was perfect for the right thing. If your kids are watching, you probably don't wanna. Yeah, it's good enough. So, I mean. Consider what he's saying though. You take agency from people when you say

the monetary system is set up. Like let people be responsible for their decisions. That's the thing that I think is the most lacking. That's the most conservative thing you can do is turn around and go, I've made a choice and the choice is that I am dealing with those. And look, the consequences of it is exactly what Steven just said. Like you have less money, you have less things.

You may have to tighten your belt on it. Probably everybody here has gone through a short period where you're like, I'm not sure how this is going to work. And you try to build up that cushion. That's your job. I think as a man to say that you are like incentivized. Yes. But that doesn't mean it's not something

you can't overcome. Wouldn't you give it all up for your kids anyway? That's the other thing, men are supposed to be able to do that. And it's crazy that we have this culture of just like, me first in the gimme gimmies, you know what I mean? You wouldn't take it crazy, Elizabeth Warren used to agree with this position that we're having right now.

Do you know that? Yeah, she used to be a conservative. I don't know that she's a conservative, she was just a reasonable person. She should know better. Do you know that? Yeah, she used to be a conservative. I don't know that she's a conservative. She was just a reasonable person. She should know better. She should know better because she used to teach economics, if I understand correctly. She used to teach economics.

In a teepee. In a teepee, right, with the powwow. Fair enough, fair enough. She wrote a book that's called The Two Income Trap, and I think it's co-authored by her daughter. This is from 2002. Wow. I think that's the year.

My mother-in-law actually gave me a copy of it. And you don't have to read the whole book. You can just read the back and know what it is. But essentially, when you have two incomes in the household, so Phil, this actually goes to the structural piece you're talking about. When you have two incomes, everything that has to do with children, which we were talking

about a second ago, gets more expensive. You're in an arms race with everyone that has two incomes. So if I'm a one income, now I'm competing against two for child care, for public or private schooling, for the select soccer team, for minivans, for housing that's bigger. So all those things become more expensive. And it drives wages down.

Of course, because now you have more, you have twice as many people in the competition. Here's the last thing that she actually made, which is a really brilliant point. When you had single income households, and I actually think she's right about this, which is weird for me to say, because she's Elizabeth Warren, but when you had single income households, and I actually think she's right about this, which is weird for me to say, because she's Elizabeth Warren,

but when you had single income households, if the man, the primary income actually failed at some point, the woman could actually pick up the slack and get a temporary job with the skillset that she possessed and actually be a bridge, or she could currently be working at cottage industry and putting stuff away, as long as you lived off the one salary.

We got real lazy in this society, it's happened basically most of my lifetime where we wanted to see both of those salaries go into luxury items and a bunch of like conveniences. And now everyone acts like you can't do without a bunch of stuff. Like you actually could do without Netflix and you probably could do without Uber Eats.

You don't have to, you could probably cook at home. You don't have to eat out every night. It's way cheaper. I haven't eaten out in probably, I don't know, the last time I traveled, I don't even remember what it was. You haven't eaten in a while. I know, I've lost a lot of weight, so yeah.

I noticed that with fast food in like 2006 or seven, I saw all the people that were unwilling to stop, because of the expense. It was like same amount of food for like 30 or 40% more. So it's way worse than that now, I think too. Like you can see, it's just, there's a lot of interesting decisions that get made. I'm seeing it. Here's where it gets crazy. Let's do let's, let's do this. Let's jump to this story. We

have this story from CBS news. US birth rate hits all time low according to the CDC. This is a cascade effect that is going to compound. And so in the previous segment, we're talking about how double income households is a trap. Shout out to Elizabeth Warren, of all people who had been talking about this 20 years ago. But it basically drives wages down, increased costs. There's a compounding effect to a declining birth rate that makes birth rates get lower and lower. And that is, here's a simple explanation. Why are there no more McDonald's play places?

Because people don't have kids. So McDonald's says, the amount of money it costs to make a play place is greater than what we will return, stop doing it. Now for the people who have kids, they're going, well, we can no longer go there because we used to go there and the kids would be entertained while we ordered food. I mean, kind of good to a certain extent.

But more importantly, the bigger example is, it's becoming more and more expensive for baby items, for baby clothes, for high chairs, for rubber baby buggy bumpers, because the less people who have kids- Gotta do it in an Arnold voice. Rubble, I can't. Rubble baby, bubba bubba. I can't do it.

So what happens is the less people that are buying it, the less volume is sold, and so the manufacturers increase costs to make up for a loss in volume. Meaning that it's becoming exponentially more expensive to buy the items your child needs, which is a prohibitive factor. So young people say,

I can't afford what child needs, so I can't have kids. Well, if I don't have kids, there's no demand for the products, so it gets more expensive. The only way to cheat code that is to keep the stuff and have more kids and they all use it, which is my tactic. I've got the favor.

But even in that regard, what's happening now is, young, so I was talking about, we've been talking about Gen Z aren't having kids. We've been talking about how there's no 18 year olds right now, so universities are collapsing. There's a university in Utah that was like 218 years old, run out of business, because there's no 18 year olds to enroll.

I love that by the way. And the reporting was that when the economic crisis happened, nobody was having children. So they said in 2008, 18 years from now, there will be a shortage of young people entering the workforce. Interesting. I never heard that, but I was one of those young people

that was supposed to be starting my family. So now that I'm reading this news, being like, wow, isn't it funny that there are no 18 year olds? Like, oh, it's cause I didn't have one. Why didn't I have one? I was homeless. I was 22, 23, and I was sleeping on couches or park benches and there were no jobs.

And I tried, and I started playing guitar in the subway to make whatever money I could. There's no way I was having a family. Was this 2008? Yeah. Yeah. That's when I started playing guitar in the subway to make whatever money I could. There's no way I was having a family. Was this 2008? Yeah. Yeah, that's when I graduated law school in 2007 and got out right as the market crashed and we just screwed.

So I remember going to a diner, I saw a job at Craig's List for a dishwasher and I walked in and the guy in front of me was wearing a suit with a briefcase and I heard him hand, he, as I was waiting to talk to the person at the counter, he hands a resume and he goes, I'm here about the dishwasher position and then I turned around and walked out. And I was waiting to talk to the person at the counter, he hands a resume and goes, I'm here about the dishwasher position. And then I turned around and walked out.

And I was like, holy crap. Although I was told later, that was stupid, because they probably would rather hire me than a guy in a suit. So here's the thing, my buddy, Steve Friend is in this position right now, he got kicked out of the bureau, he's looking around for a job, he goes, and it's like, he's a former cop. He's a Notre Dame graduate. He worked as an FBI agent for almost 10 years. He had a top secret clearance. He goes and you hand that into like a security position.

They're not gonna hire you for that. Like they're not gonna hire you to do security. They're not gonna hire you to manage some, like a grocery store or something. They're gonna be like, dude, you were a freaking FBI agent for a decade. Like you're gonna leave this. So they won't hire you.

They won't hire the guy with the briefcase to do dish washing. I wouldn't. You know what the problem is? You know why the birthright's declining? Women. Yeah, well, feminism. Feminism. But women could decide at any moment to tell men you ain't getting on like I want marriage and

I want a family. But I'm being somewhat I know we could go upstream of that and say the dads need to be teaching that too. So I'm being I'm being intentionally inflammatory. But it is but it is feminism. It is This idea that women can be promiscuous, there's this article in the New York Times called The Trouble with Wanting Men. And it starts with a writer for the New York Times being like, I went on a date with a guy, and then she goes on to describe the date,

then they went back to his place, had sex, and then a week later he says, I'm not interested. And she's like, men are awful. And I'm like, or he's thinking, look, I wanna find a wife and you ain't it. You a hoe. You know what I mean? There's this viral video that went out this week. You probably saw it.

It's a pretty white lady. She's talking about being 32 years old. She's been married for a decade. She's got nothing wrong with her life, but she doesn't know who she is. And she hasn't been able to find herself. And so she wants to leave her husband. And so she mapped it out.

You want to play it? Yeah, here we go. It's so unsettling. I told my husband I wanted a divorce. I walked myself through the logistics of where would I live? How would we spend the time with the kids? Who gets the dog? Yeah, here we go. It's so unsettling. about my husband and of himself that I do not love. He is the most self-disciplined, loyal, hard-working, good person that you could meet on this planet. Our relationship and what my expectations are for my marriage and what they always have been are not met. I can't be myself with my husband and it's really confusing because I'm 32 years old. I am a mom of three

and I still don't know who I am. I told my husband I wanted a divorce. Here's the worst thing in all of that. She says, I can't be myself around my husband and I actually don't know who that person is. Not one thing that I hear was I have three children. I have an obligation to provide them a stable home, and that those people are the most important thing, that my entire biological purpose is geared towards rearing them and making them successful humans.

How about, she never said it, how about this bait? Tell me why every day I go out looking adorable, tits bouncing, skin glistening, and yet nobody ever hits on me or opposes me. Ever. Feminism? It's the red hair I was gonna say. It's feminism. She looks crazy. You know what's funny? Remember ten years ago when a woman couldn't walk down the street in New York without getting catcalled? Right. Well they turned that off and they said, guys stop. I tweeted about this today. Women will ask for something and then they

will be miserable when they get it. It's like you're dealing with children, honestly. It really is. So that's why they said women and children first. That's right. Because if the men got out of there, the women and children would all die, obviously. But it's true.

I mean, if you had a generation. We're all getting canceled for this. I've been canceled so many times. You had a generation of women that were just complaining about men all the time saying, men are so terrible. And you still hear them complain about it. And so men have said, well, okay, then I don't wanna talk to you.

Then I'm not gonna go hang out with you. I don't wanna, you know, it's like, you've got tattoos, you're probably a progressive woman, I don't wanna talk to you. Then I'm not gonna go hang out with you. I don't wanna, you know, it's like you've got tattoos, you're probably a progressive woman, I don't wanna talk to you. You hang out in these areas, you're probably this kind of woman, I don't wanna talk to you. Look at what she was talking about.

Like, look at the things that she thinks that made her desirable. Yeah. Which is interesting. Which is interesting. Right, she's like, oh look, like you see me as a sexual object, here I am, a sexual object, and none of it was like, I'm a really nice person,

I'm super fun to hang out with, like I'm really loyal. She's probably not. She's probably not. I want to stress this point. I do believe, I do believe there's a factor in younger guys that are moving to the right, and they look at a woman like this and they think, she's liberal, I can't have a family with her, she's probably a feminist, and she looks like she's promiscuous. I want a woman who's gonna be loyal, faithful,

and not just sexually literate. That's a quitter attitude though, to be fair. That's a quitter attitude. There was a long time where I was single. I didn't date anyone and I was probably single for like two or three years because I didn't meet a woman that was the type of woman that I wanted to date, right? And it's like, some dudes are just like,

well, I'll go ahead and date whoever, but those dudes are becoming fewer and fewer. You know, and I met my girlfriend last year and we're super happy and she's great, but she wants to be a stay at home mom and she doesn't consider herself a feminist and she's not a progressive. And so she checked all the boxes that I was looking for.

There's more and more liability too, probably. Absolutely. If you're just going to be jumping from relationship to relationship or, you know, And so she checked all the boxes that I was looking for. There's more and more liability to probably for guys going out there. If you're just gonna be jumping from relationship to relationship or, you know, fling to fling in an internet world, in a world of you're immediately assumed to be the aggressor and all kinds of the sort of default positions against you. Yeah.

That sounds like I absolutely have so much pity for young men right now that are in this thing. And young women too, because they're gonna have terrible outcomes. Look, men right now that are in this thing, and young women too, because they're gonna have terrible outcomes. Look, I've got three daughters and one son, so I can see both of them growing up, and I look around at what's out there when we go to our community pool,

when we walk through the grocery store, and I'm like, God bless it, go to church. You wanna go see some wholesome looking people? Go to a freaking traditional Latin mass. We went and started doing that down at the cathedral in downtown Austin, and you're gonna see a totally different caliber of human being. They may not always be the most attractive,

but the other thing is this, and you tell me this, because this is gonna be in your world pretty soon. How many of you guys actually remember being taught what the purpose of dating was, or did you figure it out as an adult? But what do you mean the purpose of dating? What is the checklist that you were, what are you trying to accomplish?

Like what are you looking for and how do you assess whether that thing is a win or not? Well, not a T app, but how do you know like, what am I looking for for compatibility? Am I looking for attractiveness? There's an important point in this in that dating, when I was growing up and I would watch these movies, going steady, dating meant, you could be dating 10 guys.

Correct. They would come to your house, you'd go see a movie, and then you'd watch the movie, share popcorn, and he'd be a gentleman and walk you back to your door. The next day, you'd go on a date with a different guy. Then once you figured out that you really liked one of those guys, the woman would go steady, and that would be the-

There'd be like a Letterman jacket involved in that maybe. And they'd be like, wow, you're going steady, meaning you're no longer dating. You're now in a, you're going steady and that's moving towards proposal, then engagement, and then marriage by 20 years old. The, the, like that was one of the conversations that I had with, with Sarah. I was like, look, you know, I'm, if I'm going to date someone, I'm dating with intent. The intent is to have a family to get married and those kind of things If that's not something you're into I'm not the guy for you

Yeah That was and that was a conversation and like before we were even like really dating like we were but you figured that as an adult Yeah, and and I and my point to you is that I don't think that we're teaching young men I don't think we're teaching young women as a society that that there is actually a reason for- Who is teaching young men? Right. Women. And what is the- Because they're saying what they want.

Single women, single mothers, and female teachers are teaching young men. If there's, and this is a meme now, but if there's a problem with young men, it is because of women. And wait, there's more. Most journalists are female. Yep.

And most female journalists are single, unmarried, and living in New York. Yup. 100%. Yeah, like I'm 24 and I started like seriously dating recently. I have no idea what I'm doing. Go to church. But listen- I go to church every week, but-

What if there was- Or if there was, that's a very salient question. What did the church just say? What did he just say? Yeah, it's bad, dude. Yeah, yeah. So here- One woman walks in and they all tackle her?

Basically, yeah. But you also have to, yeah, so it's,, dude. So one woman walks in and they all tackle her? Basically, yeah. But you also have to, yeah. So go to church is a place to meet people, right? It used to be friend groups. That's how you meet people. That's how I met my wife, was through friends. But having a rubric to actually evaluate. So OK, you say, I want a family, but what does that look like?

It's like we have to share values. We have to share a view of the future. And we have to be willing to make that other person's view of the future our own. If you're not into that, if you don't have those things going, if you can't assess those things, then you don't even know what you're asking. You're going out there and like I said,

like I'll remember, I was a kid in the 80s, your girlfriend was like the prettiest girl that would willingly spend time with you. That's what a girlfriend was about. Am I wrong? It was like, who's pretty? Is someone prettier than that person? Like that's not a good criteria when it comes to matching

and having a financial future and having a family and raising children in a view. And the problem right now is, it used to be throughout all of human history that a young boy and a young girl grew up in the same place or similar place, they had very similar jobs. A guy meets a woman, what do you do? I work with my mom and take care of the farm animals.

I churn the butter. Oh, my mom did that. My sister does that. That's what I'm looking for. What do you do? I chop lumber, I chop wood and start fires and go hunting. It's like, that's what my dad did and my brothers do. I'm looking for that.

Now, a dude from New York who is an accountant and went to school hoping to be a lawyer but never finished and just fizzled out. This feels very specific. Meets a woman who is from California, who used to surf all the time. And they're like, maybe this will work. And it's like, dude, you guys could not be more different.

But if you had, so yeah, you know, the backstory is part of it. But again, if they shared the same values, if they shared the same sort of view of the future, then that maybe works. But if they don't have that, if she comes from a different type of family that doesn't actually see that as a value,

or maybe he doesn't know that's what he wants, or anything, we're not training our children. I think- But I'm describing urban society, because if you live in a rural area, you are still more likely to have a similar life to the average human. Yeah.

You live in a rural area, probably got backyard chickens, probably still taking care of animals, probably still chopping wood, probably still going to church. You live in these cities, and you could live one block away from someone and you're a metalhead who works at an accounting firm and you meet a chick who is a, you know, she's a teacher who studied feminist dance and you're like, I went on a date, I met a chick on Tinder, she was pretty, but holy crap, did we not get along. Right.

Now, if you live in, you know, West Virginia, you're going to have a lot of similarities in the places you go, the things you see, and the traditional values. This is one of the biggest barriers, I think, to young people right now getting married is how different everyone's become because of the internet largely. I think that living in cities is probably one of the... Everyone tends to go do that when they're younger. They think that's where the action is, so they go, but I've got a sister who's just a couple of years younger than me,

she's single, she lives in New York City, she makes really good money, she thinks that's really important, and I was trying to, at one point I tried to give her this like advice, which you know, good big brother advice goes, but I was like, dude, go down to the bar where the firefighters hang out, ask one of them, are one of your friends single,

and can I take him on a date? Like go meet a man who's masculine. Because what you described too is a testosterone differential too, because testosterone is necessary for certain things. And it certainly goes away in a lot of the urban core. Doesn't mean there's not dudes that are not masculine. But at the end of the day, it's such a, I can't go into a city anymore.

And look around and go like, oh yeah, this is good. I look around and I see threats to my babies. I mean, that's what I see. I'm like, I might have to kill that crackhead. I may have to go into a city anymore. And look around and go like, oh yeah, this is good. I look around and I see threats to my babies. I mean, that's what I see. I'm like, I might have to kill that crackhead. I may have to go and fight this dude. I don't know what's happening here. I don't understand all the dynamics of it. There's people driving recklessly.

There's people that are drinking in the middle of the day. Explain it to Ian. Oh my God, I'd take them all out. He sees a health bar and a level number and sometimes a skull next to, I'm floating above everyone's heads. Oh, in the sea. But I have a bunch of them that I'm responsible for.

Yep, those are green and the bad guys are red. Potentially. He sees green bars over his- Certain buildings are outlined, you know, like, supposed to go there. Safe zones. Safe zones are outlined. Yeah, for sure. But like, threat zones, do you see threat zones?

Yeah, and here's the thing, like, I drive a big old truck right now, which I'm pretty thrilled about, and my wife and I were talking about our minivan, and I was like, do you want like an A-Team van with a huge push bar in front of it? Because like, that's what I think is safe. Yeah, I want to throw people out of the way.

When my car can die. There's that meme where it's like, what a man is thinking walking through a mall with his girlfriend. And he's like, I got an exit behind me. I got two exits in front of me. There's stairs to my left. That man in front of me looks like he might be

reaching for something. And then it shows the lynch. It goes, la la la la la la la la la la la la la da, da, da, and ba, da, ba. There's another one where they played Gwen Stefani, I'm Just a Girl in the World. Same sort of attitude, though. They don't wanna have to think about it,

they wanna rely on you. Listen, that's fine, because that's what, if you sign up for that, that's what you want. That's what my dad would do, because he was a Marine and a firefighter, whenever we'd go somewhere, he'd be like, where are your exits? And then I'd look around, and he'd be like, always know your exits? And then I'd look around and he'd be like,

always know your exits are. He's just teaching you situational awareness, which is what young men need to do. And then here's the other thing, which is something I've been teaching my kiddos. It's like, when I say we're moving, we're leaving. If I tell my wife that, you cannot freeze. You gotta go.

You don't have to know what happens next. You have to be able to go with me. If I tell you there's danger, we're leaving. I was in Athens with my wife and daughter, and we were living in Athens for a little bit and we were walking through like the square, right? Athens people protest all the time, Athens, Greece. They protest non-stop. And so all of a sudden we see these incoming rounds of like tear gas hitting and exploding and everything's going on and I picked

my daughter up and started carrying her away. What does my wife do? She gets out her cell phone. and I pick my daughter up and start carrying her away. What does my wife do? She gets out her cell phone. Starts recording. She stands right here and just like is filming. I've got the video dude, I'll have to share it with you. I'm like, what are you doing? That's terrifying.

Let's go, let's go. How many people have just completely lost survival instincts though and that's where they go. They go straight to the phone, they walk around. I watched somebody get run over by a freaking earth mover the other day. Did you see this in like New York City like she got thumped by the by the bucket? And then she got run over because she was looking at a text message like it can't be that important walking while she was doing it

Yeah, dude stand still while you're looking at your phone in the city find a thing and put your back to it Back against the wall Still it's it's such an unnatural and a logical thing for human beings to do in a high threat environment where there's like other people, there's moving objects, there's all these other, like all these things could happen. There's holes, there's manholes that are not well secured and you're just gonna walk around and put your face into this thing.

My nightmare is when I don't know where I'm going in an urban area and I have to look at my phone for like directions, it's GPSing me and I'm like, oh God, I hate breaking focus and looking down at that thing because that's when bad things happen. Literally I'll entrench against a building to do it and like down and up like I'm like, oh God, I hate breaking focus and looking down at that thing because- That's when bad things happen. I literally will entrench against the building to do it and like down and up like I'm driving,

the potential threats coming at me. We just bought a bunch of those anti-choke devices for babies. Explain what that is, I don't know it. It's a mask you put over the baby, you squeeze it and put over and then like, when you squeeze it, it sucks. So if the baby's choking on something.

Okay, it's a suction device? Yeah, because baby is at the point where she's just jamming anything she can find in her mouth. It's the best. Yeah. I still remember how a lot of things felt when I chewed on them. They eat really strange things.

Both hands. Yeah. Boys. Especially when you like look over and you're like, you're like, oh, okay, it's good. And then you look over and it's like, your child is ingesting like a quarter for some reason. Yeah.

And you're thinking like, what would make you do that? I've literally told my kids, you know, I've watched a couple of them go through that phase, and it's like, hey, take that out of your mouth, and they're like, got it. You mean permanently? Because I'm about to go eat it right now again, as soon as you walk away.

You mean permanently? You should have taken that from me, you knew better. Yes. That's your fault, dad. That's funny. But yeah, I mean, the babies just shove stuff in their mouths, that's what they do. That's what babies do.

Like, baby-proofing is serious business. I had a sibling, and I can't remember which one it was, that would, this is an 80s thing. We used to put out snail pellets in California. Snail pellets are these like compressed things. They look like the food that you'd give to like goats, right? So they're like a little pill-shaped thing. And for some reason they kill snails.

I don't exactly know how they work. It's magic. Yeah, they just throw them out there, and then the snails would not eat like your roses or whatever. And I remember coming out and my parents lost their minds because one of my little siblings, one of my little brothers was like walking through and he was just eating

the snail pellets, just pulled them right out of the rose planter. And you're looking over and they're just eating, maybe it was just salt, maybe it wasn't toxic. Or maybe it was really toxic and that's why they're like that. He's a lawyer now, so. It is metal.

Probably that's what happened to me. Metalldehyde. Is that what it is? You're looking it up? Highly toxic. Yeah. Iron phosphate. It couldn't have tasted good either.

If it's iron phosphate, it's safer for pets in the environment. Okay, they were red, so probably iron phosphate sounds right. That makes sense. Yeah. Still not great. Probably not the thing you should be eating.

It's like the same thing as looking down and seeing kids like eating, we had a little brother, maybe of one of my buddies, that was eating rabbit pellets, you know, like turds. Gross. And he thought they were chocolates. He just saw them on the ground. They look a lot like chocolate.

He couldn't tell by the taste. He was like a two-year-old. He was in that phase where he just eats stuff. You do know that rabbits actually have two different types of things that come out of their butts. I did not know this. One is actually food for the rabbit and one is waste. Because rabbits eat grass and grass is hard to digest.

Sure. So I know this because we had a couple pet rabbits. They eat the grass and then it goes to their system, they crap it out and it is still grass, they turn around and eat it. Got it, it's like a second pass through the metabolism. Yep. Phil told me he gets to tend the rabbits.

Is that true? Pardon me? You get to tend the rabbits? I told you, no such thing. You said you get to tend the rabbits. Never said that. He's like a Lenny. Nothing like that at all. I don't know why you're trying to throw me under the bus.

I'm just giving you a mice and men reference. I was just calling. Mice and men? It's called cicatrope. Cicatrope is- Soft, nutrient-rich droppings they produce from their cecum. You get to tend the rabbits. They're small, shiny clusters like grapes. Soft, nutrient-rich droppings they produce from their cecum. You get to tend the rabbits.

They're small, shiny clusters like grapes. Yeah, they are shiny. And they eat it directly out of their anus. The shiny ones are the good ones you eat? Wow, they go right for it. Shiny ones you can eat. It says rabbits eat cicatropes directly from their anus, usually at night or early morning.

I often wanted to put it in the comments if they've eaten them in the morning. It's called coprophagy. That's the act of eating it out of the anus. I hope people put it in the comments if they've eaten them. It's called coprophagy. Coprop, coprophagy? Coprophagy? That's the act of eating it out of the anus. They re-digest the nutrients and B vitamins and aminos that weren't absorbed the first time. That's the act of eating poop.

Oh, what's it called? Copropof, the act of eating poop. Now I gotta memorize this word. I'm really upset with you for knowing. Coprophagy. Coprophagy. It comes from the Greek word. Coprophagy.

Coprophagy. Corada. Corada. What's that? Poy. Corrada. Corrada. What's that? Poop. Oh, oh, okay. Is it? Yeah, it really is.

I believe you because you're a convincing liar too. Yes. Coprophagy is the act of eating feces and is normal in many mammals. Oh. Rabbits, rodents, dogs. Democrats. Yeah, they did it when the settlers were settling in the United States. They had a bad winter or a series of bad winters and they were calling it the second harvest where they would Reuse the feces for the seeds. They'd get some more nutrition out of the seeds

Starvation it was that one guy who was always drinking his own piss who? Is that true was he always doing that? No, he was actually staying at a Hilton that night. Oh I didn't know if they made that up. I think he's a legit badass, so less to be thought of otherwise. I think Bear Grylls was a legit badass and whether he stayed in the place and was like, I'm really thirsty right now,

so I'm gonna be drinking my own urine. You're like, nah, I don't think you're actually doing that. I think that's Gatorade. Yes, Bear Grylls has drunk his own urine on camera during his shows. Nobody believes that. In one episode, purportedly set in the Australian Outback, he drank from a bottle of his urine

when no safer hydration source was available. I gotta go to the bathroom while this talking. Don't forget your bottle. Ian's thirsty. No one trusts Ian is doing something. I'm thinking about Bear Grylls. Yeah. Pretty excited. Man.

Hey, let me tell you something about this chick that's on the screen right now. She's complaining that no one's talking to her, but as soon as someone starts aggressively talking to her, or cat calling, whatever, she's gonna start complaining. Everybody knows the meme. Yeah. Where the suave looking guy in the suit says,

hey, Darn, looking good, and she goes, oh, thank you. Then the fat guy with the glasses goes, looking good, and she goes, help, HR. Yeah. That's right. There was actually a- It could be the same guy in real life. There was a funny meme about- Makes it worse.

Two attractive people were kissing in a park and the woman had her leg up and everyone's going, aww. And then it was two old morbidly obese people doing it and everyone's yelling like, get out of here, get a room. I feel that way about both of them. But that's just cause I'm- It's less offensive for the first group. It is less offensive for the first group.

It is less offensive if they're attractive. Yeah, you do get a pass if you're more- People pay to see it. They'll go to the movies and watch sexy celebrities. Did you guys see- Mostly women will pay for that and drag men along with them. I wanna pull this up. I wanna pull this up.

Pretty privilege is real. It is real. Absolutely. Yeah. If you're an attractive person, you can get away with a lot more than if you're an attractive person. There's been studies too that have actually shown that people attribute more intelligence

than more attractive people are. So we get like some of these, you know, news types that are out there and they have a relatively attractive face and they get credit for being smarter. When we listen to them, we know that they're not. Here's a story from CNBC. I saw this. Sydney Sweeney Sparks' latest meme stock rally is American Eagle Jumps

because she's hot and she has big boobs. And anybody who ever came to you at a corporate, at any kind of corporation or marketing firm and said, you want to do morbidly obese, ugly people. Idiots. They were, they were taking you for a ride. It's so strange that that was the thing for a period of time. And then it's like-

Like a Dove commercial that we've seen. My favorite- Also bald women. My favorite thing about this is that there's some marketing guy who goes, I've got an idea. Just hear me out. Big boobs. And they went, oh, that's so crazy. It might work. And then they did it. Put her in ugly mom jeans and put her in front of a classic Ford Mustang. Let's see if that gets some testosterone going.

Aspirational. We talked about this on PCC multiple times, like the idea of showing your product on an unattractive person or with an unattractive person is totally counter to what you're trying to do. You're trying to get people to associate your product with positive thoughts. A Jaguar. I mean, yeah, Jaguar was bad. The one that really sticks out was Calvin Klein. They had two just atrociously obese people. And then one of a man was wearing a bra like a bra. It was a man. And he was wearing a bra because

he was so fat. And it's like we talk like I said, like I said, on PCC, it's like, we need to bring back aspirational in advertising, not only but not only in advertising, less face piercings. Yes, definitely. This is the commercial in question. I love it. Sold, I'll take the car. Yep.

That's a little on the nose, isn't it? It is. I'm saying he's tweenie. Does she really? Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, listen, listen. Tweenie has broken. Is she gonna fire it up? Just listen.

No, it's not gonna play. I like that. That was my favorite part. Is that it stalled. The computer needed a minute. Alright, now just listen. She has great genes. They show her leaning over the hood of a car with their boob sticking out. Then she smacks her own ass and their stock is going up. Who did it better, though, her or Megan Fox in Transformers?

Well, that was 25 years ago or whatever. Talking 25 years ago, Megan Fox. I mean, I don't know that I have a preference. They're both so attractive, so. Female mechanic. They're buying whatever they're selling either way. Absolutely, yeah. They're being sold, yeah.

Yeah, the sound of the ASMR kind of thing that they're doing on that is a little, like I said, that's a little on the nose. I was very close. I think it's just funny that they were, like the director of the thing was like, okay, Sydney, we're gonna need you to like lean over. We wanna see your boobs.

And then when you get up, rub your butt. And she was like, we going to film it all. How should it be? They're like, try to make it look like you're smoothing the wrinkles on these mom jeans that are actually not a particularly attractive fit. But no matter what she wears, she's going to be fine in it. But yeah, but it's aspirational.

Everyone says, oh, I could either buy those jeans for my gal and she'll look like that. Or maybe I'll have a gal like that in a car like that. Yeah. It's like the old beer commercials, remember? All the sexy ladies in bikinis drinking beer at the pool and the big fat guys were like, yeah! Remember, in the 90s, it was- You would crack a beer and see that.

They would like transform whole scenes. In the 90s, it was Spud's McKinsey surrounded by attractive women, like a dog and attractive women. You can't get any more convincing than that. Everyone loves dogs. Everyone loves attractive women. Who are these guys? Where do you draw the line with using sex to sell, just using sex? You know, being in the entertainment in Hollywood,

I lived out there for 18. I had to bail on that. 18 is where you draw the line. I knew you were gonna say that. I was trying so hard. At what point is like an ad rep, do I go, well, or like making a movie, like how much sex do we put in the movie?

Because it will sell more tickets. Well, so if you're talking about actual sex are you talking about just attractive people selling sex so you're right just all of it you show it just I mean I almost did I almost did naked yoga I'm like that series would kick ass just put Antonio Menderes in it and it sells sex man just his voice is enough for them say one it one more time. Sex, sexuality. You know what, the MCU is failing. I bet they could bring it back if they just have more

Scarlett Johansson in skin-tight black suits. She had to be fake kicking people's asses because that's actually a little hard for me to watch. All I got to say is- Really, really unsettling. I do think, and this is not a joke, there is a correlation between, in the beginning of the Marvel Cinematic Universe,

they have sexy Scarlett Johansson, and I mean literally, they dress her up in sexy clothes, skin type all black, and then later on, they had girl boss, no butt, Brie Larson, you know, conquering her emotions. Even the way they're drawn is super sexy in like the 90s comics, but she's also- From being like basically the fetish model

to like a girl who's gonna be lecturing you, like in an HR situation. And then the Marvels, they were like, no, we don't want like, Phil's saying aspirational women who are attractive. We want frumpy women, you know, that nobody wants to watch. And then guess what happened? All those movies failed.

That's why the Ghostbusters lady reboot was so successful. And you know what else bothers me? Is they ruined Ant-Man. Well, how? So the first Ant-Man. Well, how? So the first Ant-Man people liked and it was like, it was okay. It was clever. It made money.

Then they said it was, it was, they wanted to replace Paul Rudd with Evangeline Lilly and have Wasp be the principal character. Nobody wanted to see her. And I got no beef to Evangeline Lilly. I think she's great in those films, but it's Ant-Man. If you want to make a Wasp movie, make a Wasp movie. The problem is no one's gonna see it.

So then they put her on the cover of the second movie, she's in the front, in the foreground, he's in the background, and it's Ant-Man and the Wasp. And it did worse, and then the third one, Quantimania, was considered to be a failure. You know, when you see women stepping into men's spaces, it's not surprising that men have decided to return the favor in the last couple of years.

It's weird to watch it. My wife pointed this out to me. She was like, women went to men's spaces first. And the fact that now you've got the problem of bathrooms and all the other questions that was literally adjudicated with the last election and you see executive orders coming out of the White House trying to straighten some of that out.

It's like, yeah, this is a problem that was really predictable. It started a while ago and it's just been going, it's been on its own steam. You look like that made you uncomfortable. I was thinking about the culture work coming up tomorrow, whether or not I'm gonna go. I'm like, I've things, I gotta go do things.

What does your spirit that's controlling you say? Go do it. Yeah, so. And go do it. But sometimes the spirit's like, go in that cave where all those hobgoblins are. I'm like, there's hobgoblins in there. I don't want to go in there.

And it's like, and I'm like, would you go in there, spirit? If you had a body? And he's like, well, no, but you're my creature that I get to move around, so go in there. So go in there. You have to. You have to do what your purpose is. You pretty much have to.

Cool. As much as I can expand myself into that. I'll talk more about sexuality and entertainment and having a wife and like, what's the purpose of it all, dude? Like reproduction, isn't that the purpose? And what that means, you make videos of yourself or you have kids, they're both a form of reproduction.

They're not the same. No, they're not the same, but both forms of reproduction. They're just not the same. You can't just say, I mean, no reason to say no to it. It's a truth. They're both forms of, I mean, if you think having a kid is a type of reproduction, which technically it's not,

because it's a type of procreation, pro-production. Pro-creation, yes. Recording's are facsimiles. You've not reproduced anything, you've created a fake hologram. And you've preserved it. You've recreated it. Over and over and over again, a replication.

It doesn't do anything. Did you ever see the movie Multiplicity? Cause that turned out that it's not really good to keep doing that. Eventually you end up with a guy who's got cognitive deficits. Hey Steve. Oh really?

It turns out we make a copy. Have you not seen this? No, it looked awesome. It's like you know you make a copy of a copy. Michael Keaton is one of my favorites always. Cause he's played really dark and he's also like a pretty good comedian. He did freaking Beetlejuice.

Hey Steve. So good. Sorry, Sam, you want me to lick it? Lick it in the glue and stuff. He's licking the pizza it's laughing it on his face Doug if I might yeah one of those clones is something I said in 2007. The video's still online. I don't believe what it said though.

Three. Four. Twelve. Doug, I'd like you to read four. It's so good. I got a lot. That guy gave it to me. Doug, I'd like you to meet Thor. It's so good. I got a wallet. That guy gave it to me.

I'm gonna drive a car. I got a wallet. Come here. Oh, it's so good. Come here. Where did he come from? He's gonna help us out around here a little bit. Just, you know... Yeah, you know, do the day-to-day stuff.

Clean the house and mow the lawn, take out trash. Tell the bullshit we don't have time to do. Forget that! Forget that! What the hell's wrong with him? Nothing. You know, nothing really wrong. You know, he's... He's a little special. He's fine.

Yeah, he's special, all right. Doug, see, what we did was we made a copy from two. And you know, sometimes you make a copy of a copy, it's not quite as sharp as, well, the original. Well, that's kind of what happened. Leeds loved it. He loved it because he was, you know, very smart. All right, we get it, we get it. Jack Nicholson, man.

It's not the same. That's not Jack Nicholson. No, but they served together in Batman, the first movie. Did you say they served together? They did, yes. That might be your best line that I've ever heard you drop. That was fantastic, sir. He was emulating Nicholson.

Ian really overvalues his job. Oh, entertainment, the storytellers of reality man in some ways recreation They call it recreation. That's you know, I saw I'm gonna I'm gonna for a sticker once I think for your service That was fantastic right there, and it's also true together in Batman I will never not say it that way I am now going to refer to all actors that were in the same movie as people who serve together in a movie You forever listen, sir There's sometimes like people say something and I just want it forever. I had a buddy one time who was

screwing with me. We were doing the FBI Academy thing and now I say this all the time. I can't help it. And it's like in like normal stuff. We're doing these gun disarm drills. Phil, you ever done gun disarms or you'd like try to take the gun from somebody like in martial arts? It's stupid. It's really a good way to get killed. Yep. So we're standing there. We're doing these gun disarms and they're like, guys, engage the subject. He's got a gun on you, you gotta get him distracted, like have him look you in the eye and ask him questions, like, hey, are you looking for my wallet or whatever?

So they're supposed to engage you. So my buddy, I turn, I hold the gun, and I'm like, give me your wallet, or whatever the stupid thing we're supposed to do. And he turns and he looks at me dead in the eyes, and he goes, are you from Chinese? And I fell out laughing, and of course he does like the gun disarms, me dead in the eyes and he goes, are you from Chinese? And I fell out laughing and of course he does like the gun disarms, slap me in the head or whatever

and I'm giggling like an idiot and they like came over and they yelled at me. So now whenever, you know, like I'll buy something and my wife will be going like, hey, what is that? I'm like, I don't know, it's just like this, it's a product, it's just from Chinese. And she was like, ah, I hate Chinese or whatever. It'll just be that.

We say it now, I never say from China anymore. I only say from Chinese. And I'm only going to say they served together in Batman. Served together in Batman. I'm going to take that as a treasure for a long time. You have no idea. Ben, so you mean they were in the Batman movie? Yeah, they served together on the front lines.

They were both the leads in Batman. You might know Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson. It's really funny because it's just like for no reason he brings up Jack Nicholson. We're like, what? Randomly. Keaton was emulating Nicholson in that clip. At the very end, he really took on Nicholson's mannerisms.

He must have affected working with him a lot. The part where he was like jumping on the bed? No, no, no, no. At the very end of the clip, he like, his eyebrows. Because Michael Keaton's got those like communicative eyebrows. I think he was actually channeling Michael Keaton from Batman. Nicholson might have been channel Michael Keaton's got those like communicative eyebrows. I think he was actually channeling Michael Keaton

from Backman. Nicholson might have been channeling Keaton too. You never know how that movie changed their careers. Almost like reproduction, that they're just bouncing it off. Like a face-off. It's like having a child laugh. Watched clips from that about a week ago. Nice, I knew that.

Didn't Danny DeVito also serve with Jack Nicholson? And one flew over the cuckoo's nest. I was gonna say, if you could bet... DeVito was he in that? Pretty sure Danny DeVito was in that. In what? One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Yeah, I think you might be right. And Christopher Lloyd was in that movie?

Oh, he served with Michael J. Fox in the... Served with Michael J. Fox. They had three tours. Three tours. Three tours in the Back to the Future series. I'm only going to be talking about it that way from here on out. That was a special gift. Man, if you've ever done a movie too and it goes on for four months of like 12, 14 hour days,

it feels like a form of service sometimes. If you're getting paid, it's a nice... Is he still doing movies? He's still around. What is the antecedent of he? Nicholson. Nicholson. I'm going to see what he's up to. I Don't know if he's doing man. I just had a thought yesterday. It's sad. It was just once into the weeds

No, I just don't think he's doing a lot. I don't think he's doing much either I think he's I think he's at the age where he stopped and being out in public I'm thinking about Bruce Willis and then Ozzy Osbourne who Bruce Willis is is like 70 but because of his condition He doesn't he doesn't really remember his previous life and stuff so awful the impact that that generation had on our culture and how now they're like 980 like oh well he actually just appeared on SNL yeah it's and then but 10 years before that was SNL he hasn't done anything since 2010 well the thing is is nobody's seen that because people don't watch SNL that's's true, they don't. Yeah, they don't.

Man, his first role was in 1958. What was his first role? Who was he serving with? Yeah. Jimmy Wallace in The Cry Baby Killer. Yo. Wow. He served with Harry Lauter and Carolyn Mitchell.

What kind of action they saw? I don't want to like, I don't want to take away from the value of combat. I don't want to make a joke about it. You're I don't wanna like, I don't wanna take away from the value of combat. You know, I don't wanna make a joke about. You're not hurting anybody's feelings, I promise you. That is fantastic stuff. Yeah. Oh, it's so good. Imagine that, but you know, there's the shooting,

the camera, they're like. Look, first this shooting. The day before I was driving home, my mother-in-law made a reference to the movie, Splash, which is a weird thing to do. Good movie. Which I thought was Michael Keaton, but it's actually Tom Hanks in it.

And what, Daryl Hannah? Yep, 1984. I don't know why that's in my head, but it is. I actually see the word splash with the parentheses 1984 next to it. And she said something about the movie to my children who are like, the oldest one is eight. So they've never heard of anything.

And I just said, yeah, we'll just stop by a blockbuster on the way home and we'll grab a copy of Splash. And the only person at the table who laughed was my wife. That's how you know you've got the right person. You have to have the right things when you're out there selecting. If they don't get your jokes, if they don't understand that you're funny,

doesn't matter how pretty they are. It doesn't matter if they got the, what is the thing? If the butt slapping noise that we just heard from, what's her name? Something Sweeney? something Sweeney? Yep, Sydney Sweeney. Sydney Sweeney, I don't even know who these people are anymore.

We've- I've aged out. I've aged out from knowing what pop culture chicks are. Pop culture chicks that stand with mustangs. We've gone full circle. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is about Randall McMurphy being incarcerated for the statutory rip of a 15 year old girl who he claims he thought was 18. Interesting. St strict liability crime

Maybe that's why Ian brought him up well, I was leading us all to Jack Nicholson's portrayal of Whatever that guy's you thought you were leading but that's actually hit what God's hand in the world looks like what? They put him in a mental institution for that or no he fakes a mental illness to avoid going to prison doing hard labor That's a crazy movie. That's a pretty good movie. Pretty nuts. Yeah, one flew over. Yeah, I don't want to spoil or alert, but it's pretty nuts. And then they lobotomize him.

Yeah, the nurse treats him. The nurse, she kind of sees through it. She treats him horribly. Like in what movie was that? It was All in His Head. It's like an Inception thing. I hated that movie. Inception?

I fell asleep twice trying to watch it. That's not normal. I know, it lulled me to sleep. I don't understand it. That's why. Yeah. I was watching it far away on a small TV too so that I wasn't very, I wasn't into it.

I wasn't engaged. I don't know if you understand that. A lot of vibrating imagery. Yeah, there was a lot of movement. There was a lot of slow motion. There was a lot of like- Quiet talking. Inception? Inception. Yeah, it was weird.

But- But it made me think. I liked it. What was the other one that was like that, Tenet maybe? I never saw Tenet. I only saw Inception one time anyways. It was a weird movie that, you know. Yeah, neither of them make very much sense,

but it's fun to see how weird it is. And the visuals were really well-run. Yeah, Tenet was the only thing where time is moving in two directions. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. It's a fun mind game. I don't know if it works.

It doesn't. It was what, Idris Elba? Who did he serve with? Probably Leonardo DiCaprio. No, there was another big name in there and I can't think of who. Yeah, time at that, I don't think time is, like if you see the spirits, they seem to not perceive time like we do. Maybe they- They can watch things go forward and backwards.

Maybe. Possibly. Maybe. Or maybe it's always snapshots, like they don't see change. No, that wouldn't make any sense. I have no idea. Yeah, your theology needs work. That's all. They're like in a kind of a stasis, a hyperactive stasis it seems like. But how do they age and die then? I don't know. That's a good question. Yeah, you've got some things to work out in this.

Yeah, like what is time to an alien that experiences motion very slowly? That's coming in to destroy us in November. Is that the date that we expect it? The what? November, the alien from the New York Post? Yeah, November is just going to come wipe us out. Okay. So, no more elections. I think a different alien. These are different aliens.

In Tenet, it was not Idris Elba. It was John David Washington who was serving with Robert Pattinson. Oh. And Sir Michael Caine. Yes, no, he was good. And Aaron Taylor Johnson was in there, wow. It was a multinational coalition.

That's a hell of a squad that they put together. Wow. Yeah, they fielded a pretty good. They saw a lot of action in the war scene where they were fighting the terrorists. Who was the supreme commander of that movie? No, Ian. I'm just asking the director's name. Literally, I figured it was the director.

Or was it the producer? Christopher Nolan. No, the supreme commander is given the authority by the producer. Emma Thomas? Like Eisenhower, you know? Like Eisenhower? Yeah. We've gone down a...

Who's the director of World War II. This is like one of those flack spins from Top Gun where you just can't recover. As the night goes on and viewership generally declines, I've kept up the image of Sydney Sweeney holding her butt so that Tate could periodically flash the screen with that to maintain viewership. That's because you're smart.

That's not dumb, yeah. All right, we're gonna go to your chats and rumble rants, so smash the like button, share the show, all that good stuff. It's Friday night. It's a lovely summer evening. Let's see what you guys have to say. We got the good stuff.

We got Shannich Wilder. He says, the executive order to get the homeless off the streets has been a long time coming. MAGA, make asylums great again. Mazga, I'm flying out Monday to hang out in West Virginia, DC. And we'll be at the culture war on the 2nd. Let's go. Ooh, holler back.

There are some people that have a negative opinion of the, you know, making asylums something where you can actually involuntarily commit people. And it feels like they don't understand that homeless people are not, like, allowing them to languish on the street is not compassionate. It's not at all. At all. If you've ever worked with that segment of the population,

there are some people that are there by choice for sure. But I've had guys come into emergency rooms that have so little sense that they wanted to be committed, right? I had a guy that we actually did the evaluation on him. 24 hours later, we let him out of the cycle. He walked straight out to his car, came back in with a razor blade, cut his wrist, not in a way that was

going to kill him, but just made a mess. And then he just put blood all over the windows and we had to take him back in because he wanted to be, like he had moments of lucidity where he was like, I need help. You guys aren't giving it to me. It is not compassionate. I've worked on an ambulance. I've worked in emergency medicine. I worked in an ER. And also people do not understand that the number of homeless people that are homeless because of mental illness is somewhere around 75 or 77 percent. It's a strong majority. The Venn diagram is almost a circle of people that are mentally ill, homeless, and have

some kind of substance dependency. It is not compassionate to leave these people to be languishing on the streets or to live in tent cities. It is the best thing that you can, and nevermind what it does to the people that have homes or the people that wanna go to cities or that have to use the subway or whatever.

Or the people that love them, that lost track of them. Here's the thing that- Nevermind that. Here's the balance of it though, because One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is actually the great example of it. Here's the thing that- Never mind that. Here's the balance of it though, because one flew over the cuckoo's nest is actually the great example of it. That's also a vulnerable population and a lot of people abuse them in positions of power that should never have been in there.

So a check and balance system, whenever you put government in charge, you're getting an awful system, even if it's the only system that can do it. So you end up with this really nasty thing where it needs checks and balances, you need to have some accountability, you need to be able to have people go in there

so they're not just private fiefdoms where they're just running amok and hurting people because they're in a place where they wanna do that. I don't know, make asylums great if they're actually great. Here we go, we got Concrete Haiti says, Lex Westner destroyed an entire town in Ohio for his good buddy Bezos. Epstein had parties with Bezos,

present at Westner's estate, from what I understand. I wonder what town that was in Ohio. Yaki India says, so the Donald on the birthday card was Donald Barr? The birthday card that we're talking about, Epstein? Unlikely, no, I don't think they had like friendship afterwards, it was just a quick hiring thing back in like 1976.

All right, Clutz says, keeping tradition, currently waiting in the hospital for my first grandchild to be born. Let's go Riley, Jane, congratulations. Grandkids, that's awesome. Grandchild. Jumped up plebs says, my wife is a stay at home mom. We have five now, but when we got started,

it was too expensive for my wife to work because of cost of daycare. Oh, yeah. That's the other thing that's always forgotten. Wow, the opportunity cost. Cornelius Buttknuckle says, based on Ian tonight, Tim should probably do a quick inventory of the air duster cans.

Nah, it's okay, we use electric air dusters. And those go right up my nose. Interesting. You party with Hunter? I couldn't hear or understand what you said, but yes. You party with Hunter? Just cop to it. What you're trying to say is that you serve with Hunter.

If Ian was being honest, would be the response he gives every question on this show. Just whatever he feels like. I can't understand what you said, but yes. I like that. Misfit Brad says, woman teacher ruined me, told me a horror story of her life

and to never rely on man. Divorced parents, I'm a workaholic, picked the wrong man to marry and paid that lesson with my youth, 40 and childless. Oof. So that time. Sorry to hear it, sorry to hear it.

There's a big scandal right now with, you know, I think we talked about it in the members only, because we didn't want to go too ham with it, but should I tell the story of that journalist who left his wife? I mean, gently. Gently. Just teed it up too.

I had to do it. Rabbe Suave. It was funny cause this is the big scandal involving him now. We were on the hill, we had a story pulled up, there's a big old picture of him. He apparently was married for like, what, 17 years or 14 years, something? Something like that.

He was married for nine. And now he's married to a guy. We were for 17. Nine. Oh, okay, there you go. And now he was like announcing he's married some like young Asian guy. And everyone's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.

Is he a Marine? No, he's a libertarian. Just curious. That's a thing. Wow. That's really awful. Yeah, anyway. I don't know.

Ruined the woman's life, sorry. Eric saw three Timcast bulletin boards kind of cool in Iraq Shirek that's in Illinois yeah in fact we have billboards all over the country multinational is that even feasible billboards in other countries in London or something it'd be weird to be like watch live at four in the morning. You know what I mean? Oh, that's interesting. You'd have to say it in Arabic too. For London. Well, Urdu, actually. I was about to say maybe not Arabic. A bunch of other languages.

Urdu. President Nixon did nothing wrong says, this is a distraction from the fact that Trump can release all thousands of Epstein files DOJ has now. These files aren't sealed. Redact victims. That's true.

They're on Bondi's desk from what I heard. I heard that desk is also where the aliens are. It's like a black hole. Yeah, Kyle, you made a really good point that these files aren't files. It's like, well, there might be files on a computer, digital. I mean, at any point, if there's a paper towel. It's the files related to the case.

And I do think you make a good point about the perception of what the files means. Because when I say I want the files released, I'm not talking about a blanket release of every document they have. Yeah. And that's not even to say like, obviously the victim stuff, you redact,

but then there's gonna be other stuff that could compromise law enforcement that doesn't need to be released either. We know that they actually went out there and did all those redactions. I've got buddies that were actually working in the Hoover building, letting me know in real time that this was happening.

They were redacting victims' names. So they were using AI to scan through all the case files that they had, and then they were going, and then there was a human follow-up to make sure that they were getting it correct to redact things sensibly to release them. I'm saying this. Everyone goes, obviously we're not gonna release

the victims, okay, yes. But there are also files where it's gonna not mention any perpetrators, but it's gonna mention FBI agents. We don't want to release the information. You want to release the name of the people who are working on the case? If you work for the FBI, at the end of the day, yeah, like here's the thing, if you went out there

and you wanted to arrest somebody and you're an FBI agent, you put your name on the criminal complaint. You put your name when you go out there and you sign the arrest warrant or you're the person on the search warrant return. You're a public servant. And we do have this real dangerous weird idea because the FBI has been doing this for J6 cases

almost exclusively. I know guys that ran down cartel guys over, like that was their full-time job. They ran down drug dealers and gang bangers and bad people that made threats on their life. Their name was public when they went out and prosecuted those cases. The J6 thing is the first time I've ever seen

blanket redactions of whoever was signing up. But I'm saying there's going to be information not relevant to the perpetrators. Yeah, you don't have to release everything. But at the end of the day, you shouldn't not release something simply because it has an FBI agent's name in it. No, I'm just saying it's a hypothetical of,

there's gonna be a bunch of documents that are related to the case, but not relevant to incrimination or involvement of individuals. Yeah, there should be a purpose for releasing it. It could be routine. It could have private information of an unrelated person, like where they were at at the time

in their home address or something. There's gonna be unrelated information. Call that PII. You definitely wanna get rid of that, the personal identifying information. No question about it. Not even for victims. Yeah, but for whatever it's worth,

law enforcement, when you guys see cops, what do they wear? A name badge, they've got a badge and a badge number, and that's supposed to identify them. When you're an FBI agent, you're not a secret agent, even though I used to think that was a funny joke. You're issued a set of credentials that you show people. Everyone's seen them at Fox Molder,

and you hold them up, and it's got your name on it, it says that you're a duly appointed federal agent. How many people do you think joined the FBI because of the X-Files? Me and probably everybody, like me, so whatever that was like. I actually have an X-Files poster in my wall. It reminds me of what I hope the X-Files,

what the FBI was gonna be. It's not that. When I was a little kid, the FBI was so cool. And then I became a teenager and got the internet. And then I was like, nope. It turns out, you know what? I actually named, when I was like my last two years there, I have my son's name is Bodie.

It's spelled exactly like Bodie from point break, right? And that was when Patrick Swayze served with- Keanu. Keanu Reeves. So, but so I named my son that and I have a poster of the two of them skydiving from the famous scene, like up on my wall. This is a reminder to me, like that's not what the FBI is,

but that's what people used to think it was. To be honest, it was a lot easier to say when he served with Keanu instead of saying he appeared in the same movie as Keanu. No, it flows. It flows. Like I said, it was a gift. It's a revolutionary.

Yeah. Rethink being an actor, it is a form of service. No cap. I don't even know what that means. I don't either. It means not lying. Oh, there it goes. I'm too old for this.

I knew it had insinuated. I'm older than you, and I know this. means. I don't either. It means not lying. Oh, there it goes. I'm too old for this. I knew it had insinuated. I'm older than you and I know this. How old are you? 50. Man, you're so old. What does cap even mean? What does it mean? No lie, no cap means no lies.

But why? It means capping is lying, so then no cap would mean lying. Capping? Not lying. I hate all of your words. Do you know what glazing means? All your words? All of these new words like a skibbity and all that That's a reference to a YouTube

The only yeah, the only word that the only new word that I've heard that I really hate is the new slang for hot dogs I don't want to call them glizzies. I'm not calling absolutely not Is he a slang for for male genitals and it glides down your throat? Is that the whole point of glizzy? It's a slang for male genitals. And it glides down your throat? Is that the whole point of glizzy? I know. So that's the noise your throat makes? Glizzy started.

I hope the camera wasn't on you. Glizzy started as slang for glock. Because like your glock was your glizzy. It started as a slang for that. I don't know how it became the slang for a hot dog. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. So it started as Glock,

and then people started making jokes about hot dogs being guns and calling them glizzies, and then a bunch of gay guys started saying glizzy as giving blowjobs, and now glizzy means, you know, blowing a guy. So it's the gay guy's fault, is what you're saying. I mean, I think- That's what I took from that.

I think the issue is, the moment a single gay man makes a YouTube video or TikTok, where he says, this is what it means, everyone backs off like, I don't say that, don't look at me. I never said that. Can we please get someone to make that and make this thing stop? No, it's true.

No, I want it to stop though. So we want no more glizzy. I would like it to stop. Glizzy is a gay slang term for men giving men. But didn't you say we need to have a man who is gay say that as an experience? No, no, no, no, no. You must have said, they did this five years ago.

And it's still happening? And people, so when someone says the word glizzy, they were referring to blowing guys. I don't like it. It's a sl... I don't like it in terms of hot dogs. If you're not hanging out bath houses, you'll never hear the word.

I'm not not that's true I'm totally safe from that but also I have to hear people say things. What are the other words that we hated? Just like all of what what generation are you alpha Z Z alpha is if old as our 15 Okay, yeah, the oldest alpha our bank guard are 13 or 13 years old. I think yeah, and there's only 40 million of them I don't want to get into the whole generation. We're totally in like a upside down pyramids game. We're screwed. Oh yeah. There's half as many Gen Alphas as there were millennials. And it's boomers faults. Yeah. And this is why I'm going to say it again. I'm going to say it again. They are rebooting scrubs, Malcolm in the middle, King of the Hill, Happy Gilmore 2 just came out, rumors

of married with children. All they're doing is regurgitating the 90s for millennials because the millennial market has millennials have a little bit of money. And Gen Z and Gen F are completely broke and small generations. You mentioned a couple nights ago how they're like, people are all going to have their own AI programs that they go show me that scrubs season three but with you know, Donald phase out of row row and everyone will have their own references of culture of what a what a good song is. that they go, show me that Scrubs season three, but with Donald Faison. Oh, bro, bro.

And everyone will have their own references of culture, of what a good song is. No, you live in the pod. Because everyone's making their own version of it. You live in the pod. So we don't have an identifying culture. Well, this is a concern I've got. Pearl Jam, a band I could relate to a girl on,

and then I'd be like, I've got something common with this human. Now, if everyone's making their own music in their own head. It's like you don't watch Tim Kest IRL. You will live in the pod, and you will eat the bugs and you will be happy Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna be you're gonna be a hairless skinless matrix pod dweller. I've seen that movie dude. I can't Know I'm happy for this though For real, you know why because I can live in Montana only thing that matters is that I can AI

generate a version of Revenge of the Sith where Anakin comes to his senses and Mace Windu decides it's probably a bad idea to execute the Chancellor on the spot and then the Jedi come in and arrest him and they hold a trial and he gets arrested and the Republic is saved. Wow. You really need that. I need it. It has to happen. It's like there's a...

It's vexing you. Mace Windu is like, he's too dangerous and Anakin goes, it's not the Jedi way and Mace goes, you're right. Okay, get more Jedi in here. We're going to arrest him. And he goes, yes. Mace Windu was played by? Samuel. Samuel L. Jackson, he served with what,

Ewan McGregor and some of the others? Indeed, they served together. Samuel L. Jackson probably served with everybody, to be honest. That's actually probably true. He might be the next- Kevin Bacon. Kevin Bacon.

Yeah. He might be the modern Kevin Bacon. Indeed, he's the most decorated actor. Some people say that. Yeah. Some would say. Highly decorated. All right, here we go. We got real Warpig.

He says, if you're over 30 and don't have your own family, you have failed. What I would say is- That stings for some. I'd put it like this. If you do not have children, you will be the first life form in a multi-billion year long chain of reproduction that did not reproduce.

And you gotta, you know, be gentle with that term family because some people are born to real assholes and they don't think of those people as their family. The people that took them in and that raised them are the actual family. So that's because you don't have kids, doesn't, or don't have parents alive, doesn't mean you don't have a family of some sort. Oh I gotta read this one Tetris says got a 16 month old daughter she just ate a June bug. Yeah baby that's what I'm talking about. Sounds like a 16 year old. Be careful though no seriously be careful with that because uh you can die. I don't know about June bugs but you don't eat bugs for a reason. I don't know if you guys know the story. You can eat

June bugs. Uh off the ground I don't know that you guys know the story of- Who can eat you in bugs? Off the ground, I don't know that you can. There was a dude who- Shouldn't. At a party, he was like 19, and someone grabbed a slug and then a dare, he dumped it in his beer and slammed it, and he was dead within a week.

Yeah, slug air. You cannot eat insects out of the dirt. So remember when they were selling cicadas- Isn't it a mollusk? It is. What is a slug? It is a mollusk. It's not an insect then. I'm saying generally you can't eat bugs out of the bear.

Just cook it. Leviticus. Doesn't Leviticus say not to eat bugs? Yeah, it was a parasite that went to his brain and killed him. Sam Ballard, a 19 year old Australian rugby player, died on November 2nd, 2018. Ate a slug. That was like a long time ago.

Dude, that's some old stuff. What are you talking about? Eating a slug. That'd be a rough way to go. Gross. Everything should be cooked. He contracted... He contracted rat lungworm disease from eating the slug. Is that really what it's called? Yeah. Dude,

going with that as being you're out, if that's your exit map, rat lung disease, that sounds like the worst thing that you could put in your... He was alive for eight years after that too. He died eight years later. Alright, let's go. Did you say it happened in 2018? That doesn't make any sense. He died in 18. Noah Sanders says, let's go. Did you say it happened in 2018? That doesn't make any sense. He died in 18. Noah Sanders says, can't wait to see you next week.

You should invite JD Delay for August 2nd. He's an ex-con who's friends with angry cops. Great addition to the discussion, ex-con, anarchist, and an active cop all sides. Well, the idea is there's four people on stage and an open seat for anyone in the audience to come up and join the debate. And so it's gonna be funny.

We're gonna do a half an hour between angry cops and Michael Maus about policing. And then we're gonna invite literally random people to get on the stage and challenge the positions of the individuals. And we'll see, we'll see. I think we're expecting right now, we have confirmed around 80 individuals for this Saturday,

but it could be more because they canceled the tickets and refunded them, so we don't know now we have confirmed around 80 individuals for this Saturday. But it could be more because they canceled the tickets and refunded them. So we don't know if we actually are going over, but we have 200 seats. So I think we'll be fine. Is there the angry cops? Michael Mouse when I think is probably going to sell out. So DC comedy, love.com, your tickets now. Because I think we're close to selling out already.

If you do want to come to that one, buy your tickets. And then August 9th, we're doing the feminism debate, which, yeah. I was asking if people with tickets that got canceled, but they didn't re-buy because they didn't know, are they able to come show up with their canceled ticket? I mean, probably not supposed to, and be like, sorry, I have my name, you see, I bought it.

It's canceled. Probably, but the challenge we're going to have is if we, if, if, let's say it's a 200 seat venue, let's say 110 people buy tickets get canceled, a different 110 people buy tickets. They both show up, there's gonna be 20 people that won't have seats. And it's just like first come first serve maybe

until it fills up. I don't know, man. Do like a thunder dome outside and see. Show within a show. Crack a pool stick in half and throw on the ground and say tryouts. Right, see who's coming in. The windows are off limits.

Don't climb through the windows. Then we'll be hiding right by the windows waiting. I think we'll be fine. I don't, like the first event I don't think was gonna sell out. I think we'll probably end up with a hundred or a little bit more with some last minute. Who are the guests?

We have Gavin McInnis and Mataan Evan or, and Pisco Liddy, the liberal lawyer. So if you guys don't know who Mataan is, he's, how do you describe him? Oh, hilarious. Well, he's a hero. He's a comedity, the liberal lawyer. So if you guys don't know who Mottan is, he's, how do you describe him? Hilarious. Well, he's a hero. It's a comedic interview personality, he's a Gen Z guy.

Everyone knows Gavin, he created the Power Boys. Mottan, he appeared, talking about Bill Clinton being his rabbi, I think, and then had every indication to me of just being a flash in the pan young guy, just making a viral hit, but he is the real deal. I'm really looking forward to seeing him work. I don't know, I haven't met him in person yet. And then, is this half, it's gonna be half debate,

half kind of semi roast? Is that kind of the game too? No, no. Full debate? It's meant to be a debate that's fun. Got it. So it's at a comedy club, and the idea is, when we're debating, we're gonna be serious,

but there's gonna be snark and there's gonna be heckling. And it's meant to just be a good time where we shouldn't leave angry at each other's throats. We should be laughing and be like, okay, okay, you got me. So it's not that, maybe you're right. Maybe you're right. It's not that anyone's directly getting roasted. Sure, sure.

But we're gonna make fun of each other. Roast some points. Alex Stein. Of course. Yeah, he's got Stein as the roast master. During the pilot, we were like, we need Stein to be the comedic levity for the debate. He was the one trying to keep it together.

Yeah, if it's too crazy, he'll... I've been on his program where I didn't know what I was getting into, and I didn't know if he was gonna do like a straight interview, which is what he ended up doing, or if he was gonna go there and just be like Alex Stein, which is what I assumed. And so I literally got invited on.

We were doing it remote. He was up in Dallas. I'm in Austin. Like I pop on the screen and he was like, and now we have Kyle Seraphine. Like, how you doing? I'm like, I'm doing pretty good. I haven't seen you since I saw you humping my leg last,

which is the last time I saw him. He was actually humping my leg. And he was like, oh, well, let's talk about some stuff in the news. You know, it is- Catching Alex Stein off guard is like my favorite thing in the world. By the way, when I first met him, I met him at a C- not a CPAC, I met him at a AmFest.

I walked up to him and I had never met him before. He had just started following me on X. I'm standing there with my wife. My wife is tiny and Alex is a pretty big guy. He's obviously a lot bigger than me. So I see him standing there. I go, hey, hon, I'm going to go say hi to him. She was like, oh, don't do that.

I'm like, I'm just going to go. I go, hey, Alex Stein. Hey, I was going, Kyle Seraphine, you're my biggest fan. He had absolutely no idea what to do with that. He looked at me, he was like. It is, you know, it's really crazy. I like catching people like that off guard. I can see him keeping it together.

I am surprised to a certain extent at how famous Alex Stein is. He's really recognizable. It's because, but like, he's wearing a suit and he's tall. We walk through the casino and every time that someone's running up to him, we're going, primetime 99! And it's like.

He branded it well. He did a good job with that. He was not screwing around. Some dude jumped up from the blackjack table and was like, prime time 99. He also jumped on bar stools sort of thing. Yeah. He became like a half villain by doing his thing there.

So he didn't screw up. All right everybody, smash the like button, share the show. Follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Subscribe if you haven't already. We got clips coming up throughout the weekend. Tomorrow is the Culture War live event. We hope to see you there. There is an after party.

It's gonna be crazy. So yeah, thanks for hanging out. Kyle, do you wanna shout anything out? Yeah, you guys can find me in the mornings. I'm on Rumble, I'm on YouTube, I'm on X. It's at Kyle Serifin on all those places. Real easy to find. Oh, sorry, yeah.

I'm on Twitter, X, whatever you call it now. It's Stambo2A. Thanks for having Kyle on, who asked me to find. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I'm on Twitter x whatever you call it now at Stanbo 2A. Thanks for having Kyle on who asked me to come on. It's always a pleasure. Wonderful opportunity to be here. This for sure, man. We're changing the world. So keep doing it. Do your best. Put some good stuff out there in the universe. Feed the algorithm the food that you want to eat as as a child when you're reincarnated later and take it away, Phil. Easy and cross on X.

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