Timcast IRL - Trump DOJ INDICTS Liberals For Secretly Funding White Supremacists, SPLC CAUGHT

Episode Date: April 22, 2026

Tim, Ian, and Elaad are joined by Donnie Discerned to discuss a leftist group indicted in a massive scheme secretly funding white supremacy, the SPLC lied about Tim Pool, Virginia moves to eliminate G...OP representation, illegal immigration helps democrats win elections, and Tucker Carlson apologizes for voting for Trump.  SUPPORT THE SHOW BUY CAST BREW COFFEE NOW - https://castbrew.com/ Join - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLwN... Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Ian  @IanCrossland  (everywhere) | https://graphene.movie/ Elaad @ElaadEliahu (X) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest:  Donnie Discerned @DonnieDarkened (X) Podcast available on all podcast platforms! Trump DOJ INDICTS Liberals For Secretly Funding White Supremacists, SPLC CAUGHT | Timcast IRL For advertising inquiries please email sponsorships@rumble.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Department of Justice has secured a grand jury indictment against the liberal nonprofit, the Southern Poverty Law Center. If you're not familiar with this group, they smear any and everyone on the right with the most insane of lies. And I can speak to that as they once accused me of traveling to Iran for a Holocaust deniers conference, which is something insane to claim, considering it's very difficult to go to Iran, let alone to go there to attend a Holocaust deniers conference is something so easily proven false. Well, let's just say reckless disregard for the truth doesn't begin to describe it.
Starting point is 00:00:38 They've also accused our friend Luke Rudkowski of being a crazy far-right anti-government extremist. They have been indicted for funneling three plus million dollars to white supremacists themselves, including the clan. Now, the argument is that this is fraud. imagine you're a donor and you're giving money to a nonprofit that's claiming to fight against white supremacy and racism while secretly funding these groups. The accusation, they were propping up the very groups they were claiming to fight against. Sounds like fraud to me.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Now, it was a grand jury that returned this indictment. It's not like Donald Trump just rubber stamp to indict them. And the DOJ said, okay, a group of individuals looked over the evidence and said, we think that there is a preponderant, there's preponderance of evidence that a crime was committed, and thus they have now been indicted. They will get their day in court. But let me just say, we're going to go over some of the history of this organization, and I'm going to give you my thoughts and opinions on all of this.
Starting point is 00:01:41 I'm going to go ahead and say right away, this is a massive, massive victory for the Trump administration, something we have been begging for for a long time. I hope people do not disregard the victories that Trump admin said, particularly with eliminating USAID, and now the indictment against the Southern Poverty Law Center, these are the dirty, dirty smear merchants that we have talked about for some time. The network of NGOs funded through these illicit government programs that smear honest individuals and alternative media now getting some comeuppance. Does it mean they'll be convicted?
Starting point is 00:02:16 We don't know exactly what this means for their leadership, but it's still massive. I want to break that down. Of course, we've got more news. In Iran, Trump says the ceasefire. is staying on despite saying Iran has repeatedly violated the ceasefire. So suffice it to say, no one has any idea what's really happening. And anyone claiming they do know what's going on is probably trying to sell you something. That and Tucker Carlson has issued an apology saying that he's tormented for having
Starting point is 00:02:42 supported Trump. And he's sorry for misleading everybody. Of course, leftists aren't accepting the apology. They're still condemning him. And then the big election today in Virginia, results are coming in over the redidivated. redistricting effort. And right now we've got some pollsters saying Democrats won. It's over.
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Starting point is 00:05:12 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more. We've got Donnie discerned. Hey, thanks for having me. Who are you? What do you? I am Donnie. discerned, formerly known as Donnie Darkened. You can find me on X. I talk about eschatology and times stuff related to Trump, which I'm sure we'll get into. Oh yeah. And I was on the culture war,
Starting point is 00:05:32 what, two or three years ago? And you made some predictions that came true. Yes, I did. Yeah, that freaked me out. That freaked out a lot. Basically, you told me that if Trump gets an injury to the right side of his face or arm, he may be the Antichrist. And we were like, well, you know, now he's got this this spreading bruise on his hand it's getting bigger and of course he had what some people are describing and it's always it's always a stretch but with trump getting shot in the side of head and coming down and then rising up some people have called it a false resurrection so uh you know we'll we'll talk about that later on but uh good to have you and get some updates on this conversation elada is hanging out what up good evening everybody a lot of liahu white house correspondent here
Starting point is 00:06:09 at timcast Ian good evening yeah you too man and it's just the stimulation is is high right now So thanks for being here, Ilad. Doni, it's great to meet you, man. I've been following your work for a long time. And well, yeah, man, likewise. I'm really pumped about this. I watched the culture war back then. And tonight's your face reveals. So let's get into your face reveal. Everyone can see your face now. All right. Let's get to the news. We've got this from the DOJ themselves. Federal Grand Jury charges Southern Poverty Law Center for Wire Fraud, false statements and conspiracy to commit money laundering. This is massive. It's a grand jury in Montgomery, Alabama, today returned an indictment charging the Southern poverty laws under with 11 counts of wire fraud. False statements to a federally insured bank,
Starting point is 00:06:50 a conspiracy to commit concealment money laundering. The U.S. Attorney's Office for the Middle District of Alabama Northern Division filed two forfeiture actions to recover alleged proceeds of the organization's fraud scheme. The FBI investigated this case with assistance from the IRS. I would just like to say shout out to Cash Patel grand slam with this. I didn't even know it was coming. here's where it gets crazier. This investigation began during the Biden administration and they shut it down. They tried to cover this up. This is a part of the scheme.
Starting point is 00:07:26 The game they play is they will smear you and lie about you. That way it can be laundered by news organizations. So the goal would be this NGO says, we did important research and found out that Ian Crossland kicked a dog. Then media organizations can then report an academic institution and researchers found Ian Crossland kicked a dog. You can't sue the news organizations because they're just referencing what an NGO said. And the NGO just says, oops, if you actually force them to take it down.
Starting point is 00:07:57 You can't sue them because they'll claim Times v. Sullivan precedent. You've got to prove actual malice. So check this out. Todd Blanche says the SPLC is manufacturing racism to justify its existence. The SPLC allegedly engaged in a massive fraud operation to deceive their don't enrich themselves and hide their deceptive operations from the public. Said FBI director Cash Patel. They lied to their donors vowing to dismantle violent extremist groups and actually turned around
Starting point is 00:08:24 and paid the leaders of these very extremist groups, even utilizing the funds to have these groups facilitate the commission of state and federal crimes. That is illegal. And this is an ongoing investigation against all individuals involved. I want to stress this. The FBI is accusing the SPLC, a person. providing material resources for federal crimes to white supremacy groups. It's exactly what people have been accusing these groups of doing for a long time.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Intentionally manufacturing the crisis, they can then fundraise off of and smear everyone else in the media. And I got some examples for you. Here's an article from the SPLC from 2018. Explanation and apology. The multipolar spin, how fascists operationalize left-wing resent the, What does it even mean? Well, they took it down.
Starting point is 00:09:17 They said, In March 9, 2018, we posted an article on our hate watch blog entitled to the multipolar spin how fascists operationalized left-wing resentment. Shortly after its publication, we received complaints registered by or on behalf of several journalists mentioned in the article that it falsely described one or another of them as white supremacist,
Starting point is 00:09:34 fascist, and or anti-Semites, and falsely accused them engaging in a conspiracy with the Putin regime to promote such views. Because neither we nor the article's author intended to make into accusations, we took it down while we reexamined its content. No, the reality is it opened them up to a serious lawsuit. And I think, I think I was actually the linchpin on this one. Let me explain. They say this. We extend a sincere apology to those who believe that they had been falsely described, including Max Blumenthal, Ben Norton, Tim Poole, Ronnie Akalick, and Brian Becker,
Starting point is 00:10:05 and to disclaim as clearly as we can. Any intention to suggest that any of them are white supremacist, as fascists and are anti-Semites, that they hold such views or that they're engaged in a conspiracy with the Russian government to promote such views or otherwise. They have been intentionally trying. They and the other ilk in this network of NGO smear merchants to malign people as pro-Russian for years. And you see how this manifests when the Biden administration actually gets the power to do that and they go after people like me once again. They took this down. and described me as an individual on the left. Now, the reason why I think I was a lynchman in why they pulled this down is that the author
Starting point is 00:10:48 claimed I had traveled to Iran for a Holocaust deniers conference, which by any person, even if you're like a hardcore lefty, you are going to be hard pressed to claim that's not reckless disregard for the truth. Because they're simply going to be like, is there ever been any post or like, when do you think Tim Poole went there? When did he ever go to Iran? It's just something they literally fabricated out of thin air. Well, they were forced to take that down.
Starting point is 00:11:14 But wait, there's more. Check this out. Ghosts of Harrison. I don't know what this is about. All I know is that I searched for Lucrettecalf. This must be... What is this article? It's not the article that I pulled up.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Maybe it changed on me. Anyway, let's see if I can get Rudkowski on here. Well, he's not in this article, but I'll find it in a second. Give me a second. They have smeared Luke Rudkowski like to an insane degree. And if you guys know Lucas, he's kind of politically unassuming. He's not a staunch Trump supporter.
Starting point is 00:11:46 He's actually fairly critical of Trump. He's more so anti-establishment and anti-authoritarian than anything. And they continually try to frame it as though he's the leader of some far-right white supremacist group. So this is a massive victory for, let's just call it truth in this country. Now, what we're looking for after this is an actual conviction. But let me just point out, the DOJ. alleges. Between 2014 and 23, the SPLC secretly funneled
Starting point is 00:12:13 more than $3 million in donated funds to individuals associated with the Ku Klux Klan. United Clans of America. Unite the right, National Alliance, the National Socialist Movement, Aryan Nations affiliated Sadistic Souls Motorcycle Club, the American Nazi Party, in the
Starting point is 00:12:29 American Front. They say in order to covertly pay the individuals, they opened bank accounts connected to a series of fictitious entities. The covert nature of the accounts allowed the SPLC to disguise, the true nature source and ownership and control of the fraudulently obtained money, the SPLC paid the individuals. In order to keep the scheme going, the SPLC made a series of false statements related to the operation of the accounts. A conviction will result in the forfeiture of financial
Starting point is 00:12:55 gains from the alleged illegal activities. Absolutely amazing. Bro, this is like you're playing a game, you have all these creatures, all these characters. One of them gets revealed that it's been in stealth. It's been like an alien evil creature in your town. And now you know, like this is a foreign, most likely foreign funded op to destroy our country from the inside with a culture war. It's been like one of the villains of the story, but it's been in sheep's clothing until today. Oh, I see. Their website seems to be down. The SPLC website's down.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Oh, wow. Check this out. You probably pull it up, gateway timeout. So here's what you can see. When you search for Luke Radkowski, SPLC, charges against We Are Change. It's leader, Luke Rydkowski. Come late at the time that the SPLC said nothing of wax, alleged raising money for 9-11 first responders. We are chains leader.
Starting point is 00:13:46 They say whack. That's what they call it whack. I think Luke realized. Luke would put on his microphone, WRC. Oh, we are chain. Yeah. Yeah. Wack.
Starting point is 00:13:54 They mentioned Luke Rukovsky over and over again and calling him far right and all of this stuff. And, oh, Luke's got a tweet on it. Let's see what he said. So the SPLC was financing the problem that it was trying to, quote, solve indeed. This isn't the only one. And I want to stress, as much as people are pissed about Donald Trump and the war in Iran, whatever your arguments might be, to ignore the dismantling of USAID is to ignore one of the biggest successes that we've seen from any administration. This was an illicit network of NGOs doing things like this. And they were shut down.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And now they're going after the SPLC. I hope they go after a handful of other organizations that we could, well, I won't name them specifically. I have some thoughts as well. Indeed. I need to. Yep. I think we will be seeing things like that in the near future. This is incredible.
Starting point is 00:14:44 This is. This is because... I mean, this should bump Trump's approval up by three points. Like, taking... Sure, I'm not saying it will. Right. Do people understand the esoteric value of it? I hope so.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I hope people... This is sinking in. Like, it's one thing taking Venezuela. I understand, you know, securing oil trade. But disemboweling the culture warrior, like the enemy culture warrior is like, bro, we just like, we could have... It's precedent setting. So much of what is going to happen is about what the people want.
Starting point is 00:15:11 So with things like this that have been manipulating people, I mean, it's just like the tentacles have been severed, it feels like, or the octopus has been extracted from the brain. Yeah, you know, I almost feel kind of vindicated as like a conservative leading black man because like I'm like a black sheep of my family because my family is mostly Democrat. And like I've always said like, man, I feel like this racism, this like white supremacist thing is like kind of overblown. I feel like it's almost a vindication for like me, you know, in a way. It felt like that since 2014 to me or 2013.
Starting point is 00:15:39 It just got so many views and they're like, ooh. And then who knows why AI picked up. Obviously, China, other countries that have massive technology, but not in the military, are trying to whip up a frenzy on American shores. Well, it ain't happening. I wonder how many. You know, I have a question about one organization I can bring up, and that's the ACLU. And the reason is the ACLU actually defended Unite the Right in Charlott's
Starting point is 00:16:05 until they started bleeding a bunch of donors and then they flipped on a dime. I'm wondering if something changed at a lot of these NGOs or organizations. I'm also wondering if there was government or what's it called it, intelligence agency or deep state pressure put on these organizations to become weapons. Probably during COVID, it felt like the whole world decided to play their hand. Or like the whole world, the World Economic Forum, the people that wanted to corporatize the globe and destroy governments is like, and they went. full in, but they couldn't
Starting point is 00:16:37 beat us because we have the internet and people like Brett Weinstein and Robert Malone and people that were just fearlessly just the tip of it just and ever since, I think this is part of it like probably big bribery kicked off around that time. You know the printing of the what, 10 trillion
Starting point is 00:16:53 and money since that happened. Sorry, I thought. No, I mean, I think this is the end result of when demand for racism outstrips the supply and the SPLC had to manufacture more racism because the Democrats run on the racism industrial complex, right? If you need a fearmonger around white supremacy, if that's your goal with your narrative and spin and you're lacking that, then you really need
Starting point is 00:17:16 to manufacture it. And that's what I guess these guys have been doing over the course of, what, seven years now, people who were former Klu Klux Klan guys and all these guys are just feds. Oh, they were funding people that turned out to be undercover feds? Is that what happened? Is that I understand they turned a lot of people who were for, former KKK guys or here. I have something specific right now. One of the SPLCs, they paid a member of the National Alliance over $1 million. I think this National Alliance is some like fascist group.
Starting point is 00:17:47 That's the Nazi Party, isn't it? Yeah, so between 2014 and 2023, the LSPLC. No, no, it's not. It's not. The National Alliance is different from the Nazi Party. F9 was affiliated with the neo-Nazi organization, the National Alliance. That's what it says in the indictment and served as an informant for the SPLC for more than 20 years. And that's where over the course of 2014 and 2023, they secretly paid him over $1 million. Oh, the S. TLC had an informant in that. Here's the thing to understand. The argument
Starting point is 00:18:16 that they make is that, no, no, these are informants to us because we're trying to stop them. The problem is the indictment is that the money was being given for the commission of federal crimes. So my response to, because I guarantee you the response from liberals is going to be, Trump's weaponized DOJ is going after people fighting white supremacy and this proves it. My response is, how do you think the SPLC would fund federal crimes through white supremacy groups? Do you think they're going to just claim they were directly giving money to white supremacists? No. If it were true that they had informants for the intention of disrupting these groups, they wouldn't
Starting point is 00:18:52 have created fake bank accounts for fake entities. They would have tried to obfuscate this. They would have outright just paid the guys and said, you're an informant. for us. Like O'Keefe Media Group. I imagine he pays the people with his company. O'Keefe Media Group. It's on the books. The people who are undercover reporting are employees. Yeah, exactly. He's doing it on the books. These guys were not. And that's the fraud. But more importantly, they were committing crimes. That's the allegation. So the SPLC is like, you're an informant and the money is going to go to commit crimes, but, you know, it's to stop the crimes. You're like informing on
Starting point is 00:19:29 yourself. You've got to commit the crime. I think the reality is. I think the reality is. the SPLC wanted them to commit crimes, and that's why they allegedly were hiding the money through fictitious entities. They want Unite the Right. They want those rallies because then they go, oh, oh, no. You know what it is? Yes. Do you guys remember Danny and Daniel Polishuk and Ryan Long's Antifa? Antifa window repair company? Yeah. They're like at night, we're Antifa and we go smash windows, then we put our business cards. The next day, we repair the windows. That's what it is. It's a perfect business. Sure. You fund the enemy and now you have an enemy of fight. There is no anti-fund. There never has been.
Starting point is 00:20:04 It's just a ton of local window repair companies are putting on black masking going like, Trump's a fascist and smashing windows. COVID was rough. We suffered too in that economy. You understand? We had to do something. You know. This is a conveniently timed win, I will say, though, for Cash Patel, who's been, I think, desperate for a big win like this for some time.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Let's hope to see this indictment actually goes here. There's obviously a lot of allegations in here, but we have seen the DOJ come forward with a lot of these different indictments towards a lot of different lawmakers that hasn't gone anywhere that's been kind of disappointing. So hopefully this does actually go somewhere. I think this is Todd Blanche's first indictment. Well, so just understand. The grand jury returned this today. So the moment the indictment came in, we got a press release and announcement. Yes, I agree. Cash needed this victory, but I don't think it's intentionally timed. Sure. But it is convenient.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Well, Pam Bondi missed on the spoils for this, right? I think this is one of Todd Blanche's first days as the new eternally, I think at least acting right now. Oh, yo, yo. The indictment actually has some of the evidence. Check this out. They say, honor by the days, list below, the following false or misleading statements were made to an FDIC insured financial institutions. I employ one, certify that I am the sole owner of the above name proprietorship,
Starting point is 00:21:21 federal tax ID number, redacted, engaged in business under the trade name of center investigative agency. So they had people opening bank accounts masquerading as sole props. that were funneling money from the SPLC to white supremacists. Yeah, they used multiple shell corporations, that is, to try to... Wow. In 2016. I don't want to...
Starting point is 00:21:42 I'm not going to gush over cash because I know him personally. Maybe I'm a little biased, but he's so biased, dude. I got to, I got it. This is crazy. In 2020, Bank One conducted an internal investigation to the accounts. Thereafter, an SPLC employer requested Bank One closed the accounts associated with the CIA. I'm not kidding. It's called the Center Investing Innovation.
Starting point is 00:22:02 agency CIA. This is nuts. I would not be surprised if it were true. It was literally the CIA. That's why they kept trying to malign people as Russians. Yeah, yeah. There was a lot of anti-Russian proxian. These people are evil. That all started off in 2015 also all that anti-Russian propaganda. You know what's fascinating? The timing of this is for the first Trump campaign, right, in 2016. Yeah, right when Hillary and Trump were debating, it just came in force. Well, this was all to help build a narrative against President Trump, or well, before he came president, and then immediately after he was elected. I think they expected Hillary to win and go to war, and then we'd have enough hatred of the Russians and be like, see, and Trump was one. Now we could, yeah, but what happened was Trump won, and they're like, well, now we got to steer Trump.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Because this mostly happened between 2015 and 2023. So the SPLC need to manufacture this stuff as Trump was getting into office. Because, again, the demand was outstripping the actual supply. for the racism going on here. How do you feel as, I don't know, were you black? Yeah, yeah, I'm black, yeah. Yeah, like I said, I mean, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Like, I really hope my Democrat family members see this. And, like, I hope it wakes them up to some degree because, like, you know, I'm always misaligned as like Uncle Tom or whatever by them for, you know, being conservative leading and, like, you know, not going hard enough against white supremacy or whatever, like, whatever it is. Do you guys talk about geopolitics a lot?
Starting point is 00:23:30 Eh, sometimes. I mean, they kind of avoid talking about politics and, like, culture stuff with me anyway. So are they familiar with, like, the liberal economic order, the banking establishment and all that? Yeah, I doubt it. Whenever I get into it with, like, people with different political alignments, I refocus them on the liberal order of banking that's kind of like pulling strings, at least when you see things like this, you know, it's all the money's pushing and, I don't know, then they start to understand, like, no, you don't matter what side of the aisle you're on corporate, a corporate government would be horrible for everybody. So that can kind of get people real-in. A little bit on board, right?
Starting point is 00:24:05 Yeah. Big time. So does black, do black people show love to the president or is it still, I don't know, is it still an 80-20 thing? I mean, you know, I would say in my friend group, I mean, they're definitely less, they're definitely less on the Trump is racist train than they were back in like 2016. In 2016, I remember like when I was really big on Trump, like a lot of people hated on me, like big time, you know, calling me all sorts of. all sorts of names. Are you more of a Trump supporter or a Republican, do you think? Because I know Trump's brought a lot of different people on board that may not have been Republican in the past, but voted Republican because of him. Well, I voted for Trump in 2016 and I voted for him in 2020.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And before, you know, I developed this whole theory about him, you know, I was really big on Trump. And, you know, I would consider myself more of just like a conservative, you know, I've always been more conservative leaning. And, you know, I never saw the, the, the, the, the, white supremacist boogeyman is like a real thing. I always, you know, my experiences with white people have always been good. You know, I'm not one of those guys who's like, oh man, like we got to, you know, the white people, they try to get us. You know, it's never really been my thing.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I'm sorry, just to go back to this, I really want to stress. Can I find that stupid, where was that indictment at? There it is. I really want to stress, guys, you need to understand that the name of one of the fictitious entities was the CIA. They created a sold prop, according to the indictment, called the Center Investigative Agency that was funneling money, according to the indictment, funneling money to white supremacists. It's called the CIA. I'm going to go ahead and say this.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I think it is intelligence. Well, real quick, I think you might be right. Because if they, if it wasn't, that would be like spitting on the CIA when they found out. They wouldn't risk. I feel like I did this before with a different name. though. I'm going to wrap this all up for you guys and just give a brief overview of what I think is going on based on my experience. at the time when this article was published, March 9th, my birthday, by the way, 2018, the article that the SPLC was forced to take down was attacking individuals who were critical
Starting point is 00:26:20 of U.S. involvement in Syria, of which I was passively critical of it, mocking that the media only praised Trump as presidential when he fired 59 Tomok missiles into Syria. The purpose of this article, back then, the phrase alt-right initially, this is in 2016, it meant an alternative to the conservative base. So there were many individuals who were traditional conservatives, not white supremacists, who identified as alt-right. Then along came the Associated Press, issuing their guidelines saying that alt-right means white nationalist. At that moment, retroactively, anyone who ever claimed they were alt-right, there was now proof they admitted they were.
Starting point is 00:27:07 white nationalists. That was the SIEP. So there are some individuals, I'm only people's name out of it because it's a, it's kind of an old issue, but this matters for where I'm going. You go on X and people say, we are no longer the conservative base, we're an alternative to the right, saying that Trump represents something other than Bush and the neocons. Someone would then tweet, I stand with the alt-right or something like that. Then the AP changes the definition to mean white nationalist, journalists then grabbed tweets from a year prior and wrote new article saying, remember when conservative admitted they were a white nationalist. That was the sigh up. This article was a desperate attempt to link leftists like Max Blumenthal. I don't even call him a
Starting point is 00:27:51 leftist, but he's a lefty. They wanted to link Max Blumenthal. They wanted to criticize him and discredit him. The problem is people like him and Jimmy Dore that criticized the U.S. involvement in the Middle East, they were not lining up with the Democratic Party. Many liberals that used to be anti-war were just anti-Trump at this point. So these individuals that were anti-Trump were also anti-intervention and were massively critical, including Ronnie Akalik as well, who still is. This was a manipulation by the SPLC to say, they're the same. So they put my name in it. This is actually an archive of the article, the Syria connection. Let me add to the mix. Tulsi Gabbard at the time was being smeared much the same way over her criticism of U.S. involvement in Syria.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I believe that we're going to see something from Tulsi in this capacity. I believe U.S. intelligence agencies were intending to discredit as many individuals as possible by doing two things, calling them white supremacists, fascists, or Russians. Now, obviously, they failed in this regard because we all got together for a major lawsuit. and let me see this. Let me show you where I appear. Hands off Syria Coalition Steering Committee, member Issa Chair, joined Mason on a panel at the second New Horizon Conference in Iran in 2012.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Conference speakers that year included World Workers Party member Caleb Maupin, alt-right journalist Tim Poole, Holocaust and I've never been doing on. Oh, you spoke at the fictitious event in Iran. It was a real event, I guess. Is this when you did the Chatham House? meeting with Ayatollah as well.
Starting point is 00:29:30 In Iran. And I'll tell you exactly how this came to be. It was because their website listed me for some reason. Don't know why. I wonder if the whole thing, even the web is actually, can we pull up the archive? That was a setup. Yeah, I think. Let's see if Web Archive actually has the old website.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Look at this. I don't care about whatever your funding garbage is. This is the website. I'm going to go ahead and say this, guys. I would not be surprised to find that U.S. intelligence spooks made a fake Iranian website, put names of people they wanted to smear, wrote, laundered an article through the SPLC so they can claim that I went there. And then if we sued, they'd make the argument, don't look at us. The website exists.
Starting point is 00:30:18 And it would be impossible for me to track down a website made by proxy in some foreign country. I think what we're looking at is a sci-op from the get-go to destroy independent media and personalities who opposed the U.S. the machine, what the Democratic Party had been doing. Tulsi Gabbard, of course. So they're calling me alt-right and claiming that I was at an event. Now, here's the thing. The source they have, the website doesn't even exist. It was an archive of an Iranian website claiming that I was a speaker. Look at this. I guess this is the website. and 9-11 truth, history of false flags, Zionist fingerprints. I wonder where I pop up in here. Let me see if I can search for my name.
Starting point is 00:30:58 It's like a Thursday night. There we go. Different facets of the resistance with Medea Benjamin, Tim Poole and Caleb Muppet. I've never been there. We should get Medea Benjamin. She's still super radical. I think she has been to Iran though.
Starting point is 00:31:11 They're grouping you with people who I think have been to the Caleb guy. Of course. That's crazy. Again, and the sole prop they created was called the Center Investigative agency. That's wild, dude. The mask is off, dude. They were like 2019. They're like, we are going for it. And now let's bring it to the future. What happened in the past two years? Merrick Garland comes out and claims Russians were secretly funding me, Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson,
Starting point is 00:31:37 a handful of other people. And then a month, it's a month before the election, claim this. And then a month after the election, they told our lawyers it was dropped and there was no longer an investigation. It was fake the whole time. These are deep state evil individuals. They are trying to discredit those that challenge their schemes. And the worst part, the worst part about it is, they're bad at it. If they were good at it, I'd be impressed, but they're bad at it. It's a fascinating business strategy, fund and plant the story, report on it, then fundraise from it. And fearmonger based on the informants, that you set up going there.
Starting point is 00:32:19 So I think they were involved for some of the Unite the Right stuff. Dude, that was a sick propaganda win for the left. All of that, and then the following implications with the presidents, the lie of the refined people on both sides hoax. So this really just snowballed into a crisis for Republicans
Starting point is 00:32:36 that was manufactured in part by the SPLC. So they were very effective in their anti-right wing propaganda. And I'm sure from their perspective, they'd say the ends justify the means. I'm sure they don't give a shit about whatever integrity or what have you. If they were able to move the needle
Starting point is 00:32:52 and help fearmonger that the Republicans or their white supremacy issue in our country, then they succeeded in spreading their false message. It's a weird Ponzi scheme. Yeah, a weird leftist, effective Ponzi scheme. I don't think that's what is. As POSC has a rich history
Starting point is 00:33:07 of fighting for civil rights, as I understand. I don't think that's what it is. I think this is a front for intelligence. And they, I mean, again, I can use the example. example of this weird article where they, like, this is what they're doing, right? Like I mentioned, the AP guidelines. Let me see if I can pull up AP guidelines, alt-write, and show you exactly what they created. I got it right here. So this is, I wonder if there's a date on this. There isn't.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Okay, November 28th, 2016. They said the term alt-right, alternative right is a name currently embraced by some white supremacist and white nationalists to refer to themselves and their ideology. So you had a handful of prominent Trump supporters who are not white nationalists. They opposed foreign intervention, supported populism, Donald Trump. And they had claimed that this phrase alt-right was being used initially. There's a dude I know as a comedian, not a political guy. And back in like 2017, like early 2017, I'm hanging out with him. I think it was in D.C.
Starting point is 00:34:06 And he mentions that he was alt-right. And I said, yeah, but you don't mean that in the way they're using it in the media. And he's like, what do you mean? And I said, well, AP said it means white supremacists. I said, no, no, no, no, no, not that. I thought it just meant like I opposed the Republicans. And I was like, yeah, that's what it used to mean. So the AP changes it.
Starting point is 00:34:24 They create this guideline. Then, as I mentioned, a bunch of news outlets start going, here are people admitting they were white supremacists. Notably, they went after Jack Posobic for this reason, as well as a handful of other people. This is laundering. This is scips. So, again, when you can't smear, you. people like Rania Kalik or Ben Norton or Max Blumenthal, you have to write a weird article that does this.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Russian state media through think tanks and botnets and influence groups and mainstream media to try and claim how fascists operationalized left-wing resentment. They needed to find a way to claim that people who were left were actually in line with white supremacists. So they could smear, again, Rania Kalik, me, Max Blumenthal, et cetera. this I think it's intelligence agencies. They were trying, I'm just so offended by how bad they were at it that they had to take it down and apologize.
Starting point is 00:35:20 That's just, I'm just offended. I thought the great, I mean, the whole, they fumbled, they flubbed the Great Reset. They were trying to do that garbage. Clow Schwab did a book. And then they did, well, I said they did, then COVID happened. And then, oh, all of a sudden it was like,
Starting point is 00:35:36 oh, yeah, the great, no, great reset. And it's like, bro, you already released that book a year ago. Do you not think we see what you're trying to do, Klaus? The whole, I mean, most people are pretty dumb. I would say, relative to me, no, no. Most people, I think half the people are less than 50%. Just most people, they don't, they just, like, this would have flown if people didn't push back on it. You know what Dunning?
Starting point is 00:36:01 You just assume people wouldn't push back on it. You know what Dunning Kruger is? I'm joking. I don't think. It's like, I better not, I better take that back. I wouldn't blame you. I think most people think they're smarter than the average person. Of course.
Starting point is 00:36:11 What a, what a like a blatant, I mean, it's not like they didn't try to cover their tracks. They put it out. They expected no resistance. They're like, let's test the waters. Let's put out this insane story about Tim Pool. And then there was pushback. Like, oh, crap, delete it, run away. Well, it's because of, we think it's because of who Max's his dad is.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Sidney Blumenthal. Indeed. Yeah, Sydney. And so it was like, you were about to get in. These are people with resources. Sydney is. Additionally, we were going to go to trial on this. And my, my lawyer was just like, I really look forward to.
Starting point is 00:36:40 asking a jury, or to ask, in a deposition, asking the guy who wrote this, do you believe that Iranian Holocaust denier websites are credible sources of information? Because he will have to respond, yes. And they can't have that on their record because then it would show reckless disregard for the truth. Or he would have to admit that he thought this. Man, this, this, liberal, I do want to help the liberal economic order evolve to a better system. But like, I think that's what Trump is doing. We were talking about lying earlier about discernment. actually your name about like deception as a good thing. And that I think it can be good.
Starting point is 00:37:16 It can be really good if it's used in the right opportunity. But and then maybe these people are justifying it that way. They're like, oh, no, it's good. We have to deceive the people to get this agenda across. And if we don't get this gender across, we're going to World War III. It's going to be nuclear catastrophe. We've got to put these people in pods. And then they're just like maybe they've then to get obsessed with that idea.
Starting point is 00:37:37 And now it's this reinforced economic movement. Well, let's jump to the next scheme that we got going on. We've got this from the New York Times Interactive. They say how both parties are slicing urban areas to tilt the house. Well, my friends, as of right now, we are currently waiting for the election results for Virginia redistricting's referendum with 78% of the votes in. No is currently at 50.46% to yes at 49.54. It is neck and neck and it is closing. Initially, no had a strong lead, but that lead is shrinking now to only about 22 or so thousand votes. As more urban districts come in, it may shift. But for the most part, we are getting reporting from almost all the districts. Now, for those that are not familiar with what this is, Virginia in response to Republican states redistricting mid-decade are trying to pass a referendum to allow the state to eliminate all of their right-leaning districts. Currently, it's a six to five map, considered to be fair and back. balanced. For the most part, right now, I believe you've got slightly lean Democrat districts that
Starting point is 00:38:47 could swing Republican. With the new map, they will completely eliminate all but one Republican district. So you take a look at this, and I'll show you why this is so egregious. You take a look at the map of Virginia, and you can see this right now, the current makeup of Virginia. The new map would put five districts into Arlington and Fairfax County, which is just right here. This is just giant Democrat cluster. Currently, there's one cluster here for Arlington that's a district. You then have the rest of Fairfax. The 10th and the seventh border that they all lean Democrat, but these two are massive Democrat districts. Seems pretty fair. What they're doing now, take a look at this. This one, the seventh district, is called the lobster, because it stretches
Starting point is 00:39:31 up like a lobster claw and has this little thin strip that goes straight into Arlington. that way they can saturate Democrat voters into this conservative district and eliminate their voices. Now, you may say, but Tim, they did it in Texas. Sure did. By all means, make that argument. I won't argue it with you. Liberals, you win. Now let's go to Virginia where Democrats are voting to strip the democratic rights of conservatives in the state because they're mad about what some other state is doing.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Tell me, you don't believe in democracy without. telling me you don't believe in democracy and that's what you get. Yeah, that is the core argument I do hear from Democrats that the president started this by pushing Republicans in Texas to redistrict, which ultimately ended up failing. That didn't stop the Democrats from trying to push the same thing in Virginia. What's fascinating too is that former President Obama is actually pushing this as well. If this does, if this does, I think it's going to go yes. What'd you say? I think yes is a guarantee at this point. they're going to redistrict and eliminate conservative seats from Virginia.
Starting point is 00:40:39 This would make it almost a guarantee that the Democrats would get the majority in the House in the following midterms. And that's almost guaranteed impeachment for the president and this investigations for everybody in the administration, really. So this would completely retard the administration's progress and work. Hey, whoa, whoa. They don't say it like it is. Is this like their house passed the bill? Is that where it's at right now? Moving to the Senate?
Starting point is 00:41:03 Well, it's a proposition. so they passed it so the voters could vote on it in Virginia as I understand. There's currently the betting markets. Actually, I should pull this one up. Go ahead and take it away. Well, there's all, since this new governor of Virginia got in, I've been
Starting point is 00:41:18 eyeballing a lot of crazy stuff. It's not over, you know, obviously public pressure and public will change the outcome, so stay loud, stay aggressive about what you believe about it. If you don't like it, say something about it. I'm no, I'd need to look into the law to
Starting point is 00:41:34 make sure of this, but I feel as though this would get challenged and probably go up to the Virginia Supreme Court and then the Supreme Court of the United States. And there is an allegedly a conservative majority of right-wing majority in the Supreme Court. So we'll see what they ultimately do. So over on Kalshi, it jumped up to 99.7 percent likelihood that it's going to pass. And I think that's that's fair and accurate. Now we've seen some pollsters already say they're calling it. The reason why I think it's fair to say is currently that no has a 21,000 vote lead. However, when you take a look at Alexandria, with only 29% of the votes in, there's 81,000 yes votes. So if we were to just extrapolate that for Alexandria, multiply those numbers by three, then they're going to jump up another 160K yes votes.
Starting point is 00:42:24 And they're only going to fill in about. So it's going to be a 50,000 vote advantage once Fairfax County comes in. And indeed, we just got the update. And sure enough, it tracks alongside this. With 50% of the votes in, there's now 138 yes votes. I believe that just put yes over the edge. As predicted in real time when it literally just came in as I was describing what was going on. Yes is going to take this one.
Starting point is 00:42:45 If you live in Virginia, your rights have been taken away by Democrats who are arguing it's for democracy. Yeah, Tim, let's flesh this out a little bit more. How would you respond to people who do make the argument that the Republicans pick this fight and are losing it now? Texas and Virginia are different states. A resident of Virginia has a right to be heard in the federal government. Democrats deciding to take their voices away just prove that they are power-hungry fascists more concerned with fighting far away individuals than they are allowing the individual to have their rights to speak. If you want to make the argument that Texas did the same of Democrats, agreed. Thank you Democrats for pointing this out. Wow, Republicans are bad people. Does that mean you have a right to be fascist too? Okay. Well, thanks for explaining it. You're fascists.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Yeah, but they were unsuccessful at being bad. What does that mean about the competency of our part? As I understand, did it pass in Texas as well? They're a districting? I thought they already did it. I didn't think it passed. Maybe I'm... Yeah, I thought that it's currently with Virginia puts Democrats over the edge, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Let me look up the reporting on that. While you're doing that, I want to shout out Luke Rutkowski, who's in the chat. I would add this to the mix. If you want to get partisan, Democrat gerrymandering in the northeast, like Massachusetts. What is it? It's a slightly greater than the third Republican with zero Republican seats. Democrats have been doing this forever.
Starting point is 00:44:06 So when Republicans finally say, okay, we're going to redistrict right now to push back on Democrat gerrymandering and they respond by just stripping the voices of conservatives, it's just fascism. Take a look at Illinois. Do I have this stupid Illinois map? I love the Illinois. Watch this. You're going to love Illinois's congressional districts.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Take a look at this one. I love the 13th. which takes Champaign Urbana and combines it with Springfield and East St. Louis in a thin little strip. But you know what? I got to give the 17th, Illinois 17th, a big shout out. Bloomington, Peoria, and then wraps around and grabs Rockford. Illinois is one of the most corrupt states in the country. It is a vile and disgusting political place. You've got dirty cops with black sites.
Starting point is 00:44:53 You've got mafioso politics for sale. Illinois is as dirty as it comes as far as states go. I got to tell you, it's Al Capone City, baby. I keep thinking about the future voting about, because I visualize heat maps. You look at this map. That's insane. I feel like when you vote, it should affect the area around you. It doesn't matter where the borders are.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Like if I live, because I live on a border right now of two states, of multiple states, if that, my votes should affect that other state. It's like a mile away from me. And my votes should not affect 180 miles east in my own state that I'm nowhere near. I should be voting in my local. My vote should affect my locality only regardless of what state that means. That's my opinion. Otherwise, I'll tell you, let me pull up something from Third Way.
Starting point is 00:45:46 And I talked about this in my 4 p.m. segment. Is illegal immigration really a democratic plot to sway congressional apportionment? So third way purports to be, I think they're like their shtick is that they're Democrats, but they're not woke. They're trying to be reasonable. It is a fact. Illegal immigrants give Democrats extra congressional seats. It is mixed whether they get extra electoral college votes, and I will explain. When you look at this assessment, they say take a look at Pew and the Center for Immigration Studies, which created the mirage that Democrats get more congressional seats based on illegal immigration.
Starting point is 00:46:21 they point out that while it is true, illegal immigrants do create seats and redistribute seats, meaning there's a finite amount of seats. So if New York gets an extra one, another state's going to lose one. So you can see, Alabama loses a seat, California gains a seat, Minnesota loses a seat, they're Democrat. New York gains a seat. They're Democrat too. Ohio loses a seat, Texas gains a seat, Republican, Republican.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Therefore, it's zero, right? Based on that math, it bears out that there is zero to one extra seat for Democrats. Democrats. I was worried for a minute. Oh, wait. Track any data source and you'll find that illegal immigrants are centered around sanctuary cities, which are deep urban environments. So when a Democrat or Republican state gets an extra seat, it's going to be a Democrat
Starting point is 00:47:09 seat. Get it? So let's say you've got in New York, for instance, New York City has 836,000 illegal immigrants. That means the city itself gets one extra. extra congressional seat. That seat for New York State is going to be in New York City. That means there is a whole seat in New York City just because of illegal immigration. Now you can go to Texas. Ah, Texas. They gain a seat from this as well. Yes, that gained seat is going to be around Houston
Starting point is 00:47:39 or Austin. It is going to be around liberal centers with high density of Democrats. It's giving Democrats another congressional seat. So this is a lie. When you actually base the extra seats on where they are because congressional seats are not by state, the number becomes an average, according to their data, around two to four extra congressional seats for Democrats based on illegal immigration. I bring this up. When Democrats come to me and say, well, Republicans started it, I say, no, that's a lie. Democrats have been getting around two to four extra seats through illegal immigration and gerrymandering, which I experienced in my. my home state of Illinois, which is a nightmare, and you can see it in the North Atlantic in the
Starting point is 00:48:25 Northeast. Now, Texas finally says, okay, we're going to redistrict to deal with this, and all the Democrats rush out to silence democracy. These people are evil. That's it. You know, I think the Republicans and the Democrats were the same thing until Trump came along. It was the deep state. The independent media voices that were rising up were viewed to be bad, so they ran siops against me and many other people, they started losing, and now some of the people they went after are in the government, namely Tulsi Gabbard. I hope as DNI, she is contributing and she helps Cash Patel dismantle these crony scumbags. Yeah. Yeah. Well, two things. What would appear in its place once it's dismantled because the Trump world order, I guess. Maybe. Maybe. I think that's
Starting point is 00:49:14 what we're watching happen. Again, it's really hard to figure out. But Trump claims Iran violence the ceasefire. Then a few hours later he goes, we're going to keep the ceasefire. And I'm just like, there isn't one. Like what, what? Trump, you said they violated the ceasefire. Again, I think the intended condition is just what you see and not what they say. Actions speak louder than words. If you come to me and tell me something and then I watch you do something else, I just don't believe you. And I've been saying this the whole time. I've told the story. I've had friends. They would say things to me like, I want to do what you do when I was working for vice. How do I travel the world. I say, save up your money, buy ticket, and go do it. And they'd say, well,
Starting point is 00:49:51 but my apartment, my rent is so expensive. And I'd say, I don't have an apartment. I was working for vice sleeping on a couch. They'd say, well, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I'll, you want your apartment more than you want to travel and do journalism. That's fine, but stop pretending otherwise. That's the truth. So when Trump says, we're going to open the straight, but then blockades it and then says, we're not like, and that takes every action to keep it closed, I don't think his intention is to open it up, which indicates a new, hegemonic power structure, largely not centered in Europe like it used to be, where Trump is controlling the Western Hemisphere and now cutting China off from their energy. You then point to
Starting point is 00:50:29 what Cash is doing with the SPLC, the dismantling of USAID, and it does look like the Trump administration is actually gutting the deep state. I think people are mad because they want to see Hillary Clinton locked up, but I think what they're doing is, and I hope, I don't know, I could be wrong is going after the root structures. Yeah, let go of the vendettas and focus on the future. You get, you need to re-fertilize the soils. Dismantling USAID was a hundredfold better than arresting a single crony that we see on TV. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's almost, and sometimes those boring, seeming boring things where it's like, we went through and itemized 17 billion and fraud waste. And you're like, oh my God, numbers,
Starting point is 00:51:08 databases, guy I don't know telling me is way more important than getting Hillary Clinton to get embarrassed. Yeah. Right. A lot of people are acting like Trump's losing and in all these fronts, but I think there's a lot going on sort of behind the scenes, and he's doing things that are probably much more effectual than people might seem to realize at the time. But we'll see. We'll see how it pans out. Do you think that this will emboldened the president now to just not consider, not have any considerations for the midterms? So he's thinking, I'll just do whatever the hell I want now? I think that I think Trump's got a plan.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I don't think it's largely just I'll do whatever I want now. The midterms do matter, but I wonder if like, I'm just going to say this, the indictment against the SPLC is like the white pillist of white pills. It is like a white suppository
Starting point is 00:52:04 glowing on a pedestal floating before our very eyes that when you grab, it goes, and it plays that beautiful fanfare from The Legend of Zelda. I am hoping this indicates there actually more moves behind the scenes to dismantle this corrupt mechanisms that they use to win their elections. Yeah, I like that you called it the Trump World Order.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I mean, I don't, I'm not. I didn't come up with it. I'm not like a cultist or anything, but they're, the old order. I did not come up with that. I'm citing. But the old new world order seemed to be like a business strategy out of, out of Davos. The old new world order. A new new world order is getting rid of that Davos taint with this global economic money.
Starting point is 00:52:40 They're going to reset the economy. I know that still sucks. still be devastating. And then they're going to turn it into a crypto economy and then do the tracking technocracy, which you still get the technocracy, which was a problem, but at least it won't be a Swiss thing. It'll be an American thing, I think is the goal. Yeah, I've said for a long time, you know, you know, I think Trump is going to essentially take down that deep state, you know, old world order and kind of build up a new one that's like just totally different. And I've been saying that for years that I think that's going to happen, you know. I think so. I wanted to correct something
Starting point is 00:53:13 that I said earlier. So the Texas legislator passed the redistricting maps and then a lower court rule two to one that it was unconstitutional. Then it went to the Supreme Court that issued a temporary stay, a six three full stay. And then for the next election, the maps will be the new maps. But then in fall of the 26, the Supreme Court will hear arguments for it. And it is likely, we'll see what will happen after that. But first 2026 goes, it'll be the new maps. But this is still. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Democrats, if you want to argue that Republicans are fascists, you have done so ad nauseum. If Virginia wants to say, but look what Texas did, I'll say, that's really interesting. Wow. Texas, they're really bad for doing that. What's your reason for taking away the rights of conservative voices in your state? A state that is purple that is 55% Democrat, 45 conservative, and now you're making a 10-to-one Democrat-controlled state in Congress? What's your justification for being fascist, too? other people are fascists.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Your argument is that because other fascists are fascists, you're a fascist too. Agreed. Democrats are willing to do power plays. They're willing to mog and be unapologetic about it. And while Republicans stand on principle, the Democrats are openly talking about packing the Supreme Court. They're openly talking about bringing it in new states. And they're talking about getting rid of the Philibals as well. And while the Republicans try to stay principled, it's like, oh, no, we're packing the Supreme Court, by the way.
Starting point is 00:54:40 It's like, oh, we're adding states. And the Republicans, John Cornyn's fighting about, oh, you know, I don't want to get rid of the filibuster. I don't want to nuke the filibuster. I don't want to pass the Save America Act. Maybe he doesn't want to save America to America. I think I'm going to vote Democrat. I think I'm just going to vote Democrat. You and Nick Fuentes.
Starting point is 00:54:58 All the way down. You know why, though? Because I hate Republicans more and I want to see them just get wiped out. Like, I know it's not true. I'm kidding. By the way, the argument, like Dave Simmons was saying this, is that need to be punished for this. I would agree with that sentiment if Republicans were actually being punished. But I think that most of these Republicans would celebrate if Democrats won everything and then
Starting point is 00:55:18 rammed through the liberal economic order agenda. I'd agree with that sentiment if I were in a leftist and everything but name and had the same foreign policy as progressives. I am saying that if the Republicans lose the Senate and the House, they will probably celebrate. They will go, yay, we did it. Yeah. Yeah. The reason why Republicans don't do anything is because they're Democrats. They have to pretend to oppose. Otherwise, people would vote for a different political party. So you vote Republican expecting results. The Congress gives you nothing.
Starting point is 00:55:54 To be fair, Trump's getting us stuff. But now I just, you know, if they really would suffer for losing, I'd vote Democrat just so that they suffered. But they'd enjoy it. So they're massive. Yeah, but you'd also suffer, Tim. I'm going to suffer either way. Republicans aren't doing anything. Republicans in Congress, would have been past the saving.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Act. What was the point of voting for Congress? So people are like, what are you going to vote for I'll just vote for Trump, I guess. The Trump administration did stuff. I guess the argument is that they wouldn't have, they don't have enough votes in the Senate. Like this can't advance. That's not true. They could limit the filibuster. Democrats are talking about doing it and they will. We're watching what they do. What was the point of voting for Republicans if they're just going to be a road, a roadblock or a speed bump for Democrats? In which case, maybe Nick Fentis is right. Acceleration is the old, accelerationism is the only thing to do. Again, I don't really want Democrats. to win, and it's better to slowly devolve into psychotic tyranny than to just dive head first into
Starting point is 00:56:48 it. So what I don't see with the Republican Party alight at the end of the tunnel, when they win, they do nothing. It was, it was the same when Trump was in. The first two years of Trump's first term, they obstructed him and played along with Russia gate. They were in on the take. Now they could pass the Save Act and they come up with a million to one reasons why they won't do it. As I understand, John Cornyn's argument for this would be that we will be in the minority soon eventually. The S. I don't care. That's the lie. Democrats get the slightest monocum of power and they put people in prison. They put Bannon in prison. They put Peter Navarro in prison. They arrested Trump's lawyers. They falsely accused him of crimes. And Republicans go, well, what happens when we're in the minority?
Starting point is 00:57:32 Bro, you're in the majority and they're doing this to you. And you will do nothing about it because they're the Washington generals to the Democrats Harlem Globetrotters. So at this point, I say, what's the point? Well, I guess the point is Democrats and the machine state would love it if everyone just voted Democrat and they had the Communist Party of America under one political party. You know, there's a hot race right now in Texas, people trying to get rid of Cornyn. I don't know if you saw that race. Do you have an opinion on Cornyn v. Paxton?
Starting point is 00:58:00 Paxton's way better. He just filed a lawsuit against Act Blue. I'd love to see it. But, you know, I bet he'd nuke the filibuster. I'd probably... I got very little hope of faith in these people. Okay. I have not a lot of, well, even Paxton, you don't have a lot of, you don't think he'd shake things up.
Starting point is 00:58:13 In 10 years, the Republican Party is going to be a bunch of gay communists and the Democratic Party is going to be AI. The system, it's been a hundred years that they've been entrenching banking cartels running our economy. It's supposed to be Congress. In 1913, they gave it to the Federal Reserve. That's antithetical to the United States in totality to have a private quasi-bank running our monetary supply. when we the people are in control and protective of it through Congress. So it's been a hundred years they've been entrenching it. They tried with the business plot to overthrow the government with a direct fascist coup in the 30s.
Starting point is 00:58:46 They tried with Smedley Butler. It didn't work. Now they're just economically building a system where these people get voted in and then they're like, oh my God, I'm in a web. How do I fucking, oh my God, it's $39 trillion in debt now. What do I tell people? I'm only here for four years. Okay, I'm getting paid at least.
Starting point is 00:59:01 I'm getting paid. I'm only here for two years. I can write a book. Like Thomas Massey, at least. East is like a just scientist, you know, building things and like, but that system, how do you unweave the system? I just see a crap, like I can't, other than a reset, which means a total economic, not a total. There's only one result from this. The conservative people in Virginia who are no longer represented leave. Not all of them, but many of them. They will start moving to
Starting point is 00:59:28 West Virginia and other red areas. This will result in an expansive hyper-polarization with geographic boundaries. And then that leads to one result, which is violence. Damn. I mean, that's the war on brand. Well, I don't know. I can tell you this. Like, we're, there's a few towns that we're very close to. Leesburg is very close to us. Winchester is very close to us. And we already have security concerns going to Loudoun County and Winchester because Democrats are psychopathic violent lunatics, not all every single one of them, but enough of them. You know, there's an old saying that feminists like to make about men when people would say when the hashtag not all men was going viral the feminists went imagine i give you a bowl of m&ms but only three of them are
Starting point is 01:00:19 poisoned go ahead eat a handful would you and everyone's like no and they go see and the argument is made for literally every single group ever to justify you know separating separate separate whatever group by whatever group but i would still say this the security concerns that we have my family going places like, you know, Loudoun County and Winchester specifically, is that I don't believe, like Winchester, for example, their vote right now, it's about 50-50. So it's 3,600, yes, 3,0, 38 for no. So it's fairly split down the middle. I am not worried about the 50% of people that vote no at all. They probably would agree with me in a lot of things. In fact, we go down there, there's a lot of people who are fans. I am not concerned about the 3,000 individuals who vote, yes, I'm concerned
Starting point is 01:01:06 about the 600 people who voted yes, who are deranged of violent leftists who would physically attack me or try to kill me and my family. That's the problem with the left. We have body camera footage that just got released. And it shows the ICE facility when people, when the cop walked outside and they were launching fireworks and within seconds, he's shot in the neck by leftist terrorists. I have no fear in any, any Republican jurisdiction of a right winger, threatening me or attacking me or or being violent. There are overt, like there are fringe right wing white supremacist dudes who would condemn me for being mixed race and call me a Jew who I do not fear at all.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I could walk up to them and they would yell at me and argue with me. There are leftists who have already threatened and tried to kill me, and sent us death threats. So when I look at these jurisdictions and I see what Democrats, are doing. This is particularly worrisome because we know what Democrats, what the left is capable of doing, even if you want to point out, it's 1% agreed. That's fair. I don't go to these cities terrified all the time. I'm not like sitting there shaking me like, oh, leftists are everywhere. I will tell you this, though. We, I avoid any business with a pride progress flag. You got a pride flag.
Starting point is 01:02:28 I don't care. A progress pride flag? I'm not going in there because these people are violent and dangerous. There was a viral meme where a teacher put up, hate has no place here in her classroom. And then it was, I think it was Jeremy Kaufman said, ironically, this sign indicates her willingness to kill you. And then leftists were like, you really think that leftists want to kill people? And then it's like, list every terror attack by the left in the past six years. Yes, they do. Yep. So especially, you know, I'll tell you guys, we, I went to Winchester. A few weeks ago, it was during that big no-kings protest, and it was freaky and creepy. Bro, these people are psychopaths.
Starting point is 01:03:13 He was astor-turfed, a lot of it. We go down. It's a bunch of restaurants we like in Winchester. It's a beautiful city. And they have a big protest that looked to be about like 1,000 people, maybe 600. And as we're getting out of the car and walking, people are just staring at us. I'm assuming many of these people knew who I was, and they're deranged far leftists. So I'm like, okay, let's leave.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Like, these people are everywhere and they're holding their creepy signs. And I'll tell you this story about when I was in Hamburg, Germany, with Lauren Southern and Lukutkowski had a handful of others. So it's the biggest Antifa protest in history. And I think it was the, what was it, the G20 or something? And someone takes a picture of Lauren Southern. In the foreground of the photo is a German journalist and American journalist. the American journalist doesn't know Lauren. We knew who he was because we'd seen him at various protests.
Starting point is 01:04:06 They found him, started punching him, and stole his camera, simply for being in the foreground of a picture of Lauren Southern. Like Lauren Southern is walking off in the distance and he is just in the foreground. They went after him. Luke was walking with this German journalist, this guy Max, and they yelled Nazi Schweinhund and ran up and started punching Luke and bashing the guy Max and he like tore a ligum in his knee. They did not know who Luke was or this other guy Max.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Neither are white supremacist. Doesn't matter. They were in the photo. So we end up meeting to meet, like, we all meet up for like coffee or something. And then we came to a decision like, what should we do? And I said, look, I'm done covering this protest. I got nervous and beer. I'll leave.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Lauren should probably leave because they're going to murder her. And so I said, I'll get an Uber and go back with Lauren. You guys can stick around if you want. We'll dip out now. On our way back to the Airbnb, regular people walking down the street were stopped. and taking pictures and staring at us and tweeting our location. So Lauren and I had to duck into a Mexican restaurant. I kid you're not in Germany, a Mexican restaurant.
Starting point is 01:05:05 They have Mexicans? Yes. Well, it's a Mexican restaurant. I think it was Indians that were running it or Chinese people. Fascinating. So I remember one of the creepiest things on Twitter, at the time it was Twitter, you would track the hashtag and they would say Lauren Southern spotted, here's the address. Here's the street location where we spotted her.
Starting point is 01:05:22 And I'm walking with her like, let's get out of here. Two people are riding on bikes. and as they're passing, they do this. Just like the head turned staring at us. And I'm like, that was weird. Next to me, N-N-X, just spotted Lauren Southern. Here's her location. So we went inside a restaurant, called an Uber, and said, let's wait here until the Uber comes
Starting point is 01:05:38 and get the F out of here. These people are nuts. That's crazy. Yeah, it's culty, man. It is creepy, creepy stuff. Like Frederick, let me tell you how creepy it is. In Frederick, Maryland, they fly the Pride Progress flag over their town hall. They fly the flag of ideology over their city centers for governance.
Starting point is 01:06:02 It is a cult. Yeah, part of why I don't get too partisan because I don't want to get on the bad side of any one of these cults. But like the downside of speaking up. What are these cults? What other cults are there? Oh, any religious cult, a political cult, even like groups of friends. There's only two prominent, large ideological factions in this country have to worry about. Do you know what those two factions are? I don't, whatever your cult, whatever the cult, I'm just not.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I ask you, I lot, there are two large ideological factions. You have to be concerned about saying the wrong thing to. And you know what those two groups are? Communists. That's a pretty granular. The far left is one. The far left is one. What's the other one?
Starting point is 01:06:40 On the far right, too, actually. No. Who do you think it is then? I want someone to say it because... I feel there's gatekeeping. If you don't say the right thing... Pretty sure everyone in the chat is going to span the chat with what the other ideological group you can't offend is.
Starting point is 01:06:52 It's just today, one group. I have an idea what's being spammed. In a year, it could very well be. be another group. I have an idea of what's being spammed in the chat. I don't know if I agree with what is. Who holds power? It has a lot to do with it.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Do you have a guest, Carter? Yeah, but I don't want to say it. Let's just start with a Zian. It does not. In fact, nobody's afraid to criticize Zionists. Well, they say that they are, but they aren't actually. There are two groups that if you offend, you die. Black people?
Starting point is 01:07:17 No. Are you sure? Yes. I'm not going to go. Are you joking? I feel like you can say, I can't say bad things about black people. That's a left. If you say the end word.
Starting point is 01:07:26 People will justify assaulting you. The left. That's the left. Whatever your belief. See how confusing it is, cults and ideologies and partisan. Can you spare me? Literally everybody in, oh, it's funny. People are saying, like, okay, they got it in chat. The reason I brought it up is because I'm not particularly partisan. Are you joking?
Starting point is 01:07:42 It's Islam. Oh, totally forgot about the most. You forgot. That's wild. You post a picture of Muhammad. You die. That's true. That happened in Texas.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Yeah. Too far from where I'm at. Look at the things that Crowder has to deal with. the threats against him because he's offended Islam. You can say anything you want about Trump, you can call him a pedophile rapist, and nothing bad happens to you. Not a single conservative will threaten your life.
Starting point is 01:08:06 You can insult Christians. You can smash a statue of Jesus Christ, and the worst thing they do is complain on the internet. What does that say about Muslims that they are so willing to defend, you know, their ideology, their prophets? It's in their religion. in their religion, if they die for their cause, like they will go to heaven.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Like, that's the whole thing. And even the so-called assimilated ones in our country, I have found to be still very radical. And, you know, we have people in our country. I don't know. I mean, there's pearl clutch. It's interesting to see the reaction of like the Catholics pearl clutching, some Catholics pearl clutching over the recent post from the president, allegedly depicting himself as Jesus.
Starting point is 01:08:50 if he did that like depicting himself as uh muhammed or something the they would actually probably be violence um but uh south park was banned by comedy central from displaying yeah i remember you still can't really well the charlie hebdo thing yeah they depicted him they depicted him they did he murdered him yep yep and uh we kind of just swept that under the rug so uh people are scared to depict muhammad like oh of course you know you likely will if you're a popular show if you If you have a big audience and you display him, you will definitely get that. And I'm going to say this very simply again. Like I said, of Democrats, I am not concerned with 99% of Muslims who would just tell me,
Starting point is 01:09:31 Tim, why would you offend us like that? That's mean. Like, there's no reason to do that. I have said things about Islam in the past. And I've got emails from people saying, I like your show, I respect to you, but I just don't think it's fair that you are, you are disrespecting us. And that's all I have to say about it. And I'm like, that's fair.
Starting point is 01:09:45 That's fair. And so I try it to be disrespectful. It's the one person. Now, the right doesn't have that. They don't even have the 1%. There are fringe wackos with traditionalist or certain conservative values that are not aligned with mainstream American politics.
Starting point is 01:10:01 The left likes to claim some whack-a-loon who goes and shoots up a gay club is a conservative. And it's like, there is no group on the right that tells people by any means necessary and advocates for things like this. The left has numerous groups that go out in March and kill people. and they celebrate it. Apparently,
Starting point is 01:10:19 and justify. Apparently, the left was funding white supremacy the whole time as well. So if left means white supremacist, violent extremists and communists, well, then the left is all of it. I do think, I do suspect we will be seeing an Islamification of the Democrat Party over the course of the next decade. We're already seeing it in parts of Michigan. And I think they will kow to the Muslims in their party
Starting point is 01:10:41 and the ideology of them. There are many Democrats who explained the reason they lost Michigan was because their unwillingness to go full. steam for Gaza. So this is the Democrat autopsy that refusing to release indicates that they lost youth voters and swing state voters in Muslim areas because they were wishy-washy on Israel, Gaza. I think it was the, there is an Arab Muslim Senate candidate in Michigan now who I think on a leaked phone call said he didn't want to talk about the killing of the Ayatollah because it would upset people in his district. Yeah. And further than that, there was some mayor who was, there was a
Starting point is 01:11:17 concerned citizen complaining to the mayor during a town hall or something about how he didn't want a street named after a Hezbollah General or something. And he said, get the hell out of town. We don't want people like you in our town. Oh, yeah, I saw that. To people like you're getting out of here. This is a real issue in Dearborn,
Starting point is 01:11:33 Michigan and Michigan. Michigan that's turning... Let's jump to this next story from Media. Let's jump to this story from Mediaite. We've got this quote, I am sorry for misleading people. Tucker Carlson delivers jaw-dropping Mayacopa for endorsing Trump. Let's play this. compromising things, not vary.
Starting point is 01:11:48 And it doesn't even matter. Like, actually, I hate the term, but sack up. Yeah. Like, really, you, again, it comes back to the obligation that he has, not just to Donald Trump, to everybody else in the country. Well beyond Donald Trump. Who cares? He can survive. So looking back being, because, I mean, you and I and everyone else who supported him, you wrote speeches for him, I campaign for him.
Starting point is 01:12:13 I mean, we're implicated in this for sure. Yes. it's not enough to say, well, I changed my mind or like, oh, this is bad, I'm out. It's like in very small ways, but in real ways, you and me and millions of people like us are the reason this is happening right now. Yes. So I do think it's like a moment to wrestle with our own consciences. You know, we'll be tormented by it for a long time.
Starting point is 01:12:41 I will be. And I want to say, I'm sorry for misleading people. It was not intentional. That's all I'll say. But anyway, but the question does present itself immediately, like, what is this? Was this always the plan? You don't want to be a conspiracy. But, like, clearly there were signs of low character.
Starting point is 01:12:58 We knew that. Yes. But it didn't, there are tons of people of low character who, like, outperform their character. It doesn't have to be. Sort of the norm, actually, these days, I would say. I've outperformed my character a lot. I don't have especially high character, right? But, you know, you try to, whatever you try your best.
Starting point is 01:13:17 But what was this? Was this always the plan? You know, looking back after the last year and a half, it seems like it kind of was. And it's easy, well, you could get really deep about it and say, what was Butler? Like, how was it that he, and Ryan Ruth? I mean, he was subject to two legitimate assassination attempts. Have we ever gotten to the bottom? I know you've talked a lot about this, but have we ever gotten to the bottom?
Starting point is 01:13:43 I haven't talked a lot about it. I don't know the answer, but I know that those investigations have been stymied. Fact. Yeah, stymied from the very top, from people who actually would have the power to get to the bottom of that. And the motive. Yes. Yeah. Very much.
Starting point is 01:13:57 So the enormous amount of money he got from Miriam Adelson now seems, it seems suspect to a lot of people at the time. But, you know, there's a lot of money in politics to run. The reason why Tucker just laughed, and that's why I'm wrapping it there, is because every single person in politics knew exactly what Miriam Adelson's money meant. And the reporting at the time was that it was a quid pro quo that Israel would take the West Bank. If Trump, if she donated to Trump and he got that money, that's what was to happen. That was the reporting. I'm not saying it's true. I don't know. Tucker knew this. His brother knew this. They all knew it. I do not see anything Tucker is saying as sincere in this. What grown man says I will be tormented for this.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Let me just stress. Everyone knew. We talked about it on this show. Is Tucker, does he have amnesia? Did he just one day wake up forgetting everything that had been discussed during the campaign about Trump's intentions? How about in Trump's first term? He wanted to move the embassy to Jerusalem. Seem Soleimani.
Starting point is 01:15:07 He killed Soleimani. He hired John Bolton. Everybody acting surprised by what Trump. is doing is lying. And I'll give a shout to my libertarian friends. Of course, this does not only reflect on Dave Smith, but does involve him.
Starting point is 01:15:23 My question then is, did you forget that Trump went to Israel and did all of the stuff for Israel and that he hired John Bolton in the first place, had said he would stop Iran from a nuclear weapon and killed Soleimani. I wasn't surprised
Starting point is 01:15:39 by anything we are seeing. I'm not a fan of it. I just voted for what I felt is slightly better than the debt, well, actually largely better in a lot of domestic reasons than Democrats. And now all of a sudden Tucker and these other people are like, well, I had no idea. You know, there's a world where Tucker is legitimately a neocon sly up, because he's consistently supported Republican administrations that have been very hawkish. He famously supported Bush and Cheney in the Iraq War, and now he obviously contributed a lot to President Trump winning, and President invaded Iran now.
Starting point is 01:16:13 think what's also fascinating, though, is he's sort of burning all of his bridges with the president. Tucker had a lot of access to the president before the Iran war, actually. I think he visited the White House something like four, five, or six times. They had a memorial at the White House for Charlie Kirk after he was assassinated. Tucker Carlson was there. They've obviously had a major falling out since. It might be a little bit awkward, too, because Buckley Carlson, Tucker's son, and I guess the name of his brother as well, was the press spokesperson for J.D. Vance, making things a little bit awkward. He left recently to go do some political consulting, which is fascinating.
Starting point is 01:16:48 But you really have to wonder about that relationship. Tucker Carlson obviously knew all this stuff at the time. I just think he's wise to what he thinks will be the future political wins. He's seeing some uproar and some fracturing in the MAGA coalition, and he's trying to claim the future of MAGA, because I think people like him see a post-Maga environment, and he's trying to capitalize on. You want to read this post, Elon? Hi, Tucker Carlson. It's me, a normal person who you mocked and bullied when we tried to warn you about all of this who doesn't have your wealth and privilege to insulate himself from the consequences of your support for a criminal. Yep, you effed up. Yep, you were wrong. Glad you are finally aware. No, you are not forgiven. No, you are not welcome with open arms. You can go F yourself, you opportunistic coward. Have the day you voted for. You know, that's not actually a common sentiment. That's Will Wheaton, by the way. Who's? Ah, Will Wheaton. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Are you kidding? I'm a stand? He was on Stand By Me, right? He was in the movie Stand By Me. He was in Star Trek Next Generation. We don't talk about it. He was a gamer. He had a, what was the name of their gaming company? That's not correct.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Shout out to Will, dude. Hey, Will. Actually, I did like Wesley Crush. I thought he's a good character. If we could get together and hang out with Will, we've won the culture war. So Will, come over. I actually reject Hollywood culture. I don't buy into the movies.
Starting point is 01:17:59 I don't know a movie. You guys are referencing. I haven't seen it. He's an actor who's been in a ton of movies. He's a little kid. Yeah. And he was in the first few seasons of Star Trek The Next Generation. I don't buy it to the Hollywood propaganda.
Starting point is 01:18:09 I will say this, though. I don't think this is a common sentiment on the left. I think among leftists, like Anna Casparian, especially Jank Yugar, have been defending Tucker. They're cheering for him. He's going to run as a Democrat. Tucker, that would be a win. I'm half kidding. Half.
Starting point is 01:18:24 No, I think there will be like a, I don't think he'll run as a Democrat. I think some of the leftists will run as Republicans. What? I think like for a VP choice, something like, somebody like, I don't know, not seriously, but an Anna Kasparian type. As a Republican. As a vice presidential candidate, maybe. What?
Starting point is 01:18:40 Saying somebody who's willing to, you know, yeah. That's ridiculous. It makes no sense. No, I think that's the... It's just made up. With Tucker at the top of the ticket? Obviously, it's made up. Tucker's not going to run as a Republican.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Oh, yeah, he will. He's going to try to take over the party like Trump took over the party. No. You want to make a bet right here that Tucker's not going to run for office? Tucker's not going to run for office. I'm not even a bet in men,
Starting point is 01:19:01 but I think Tucker has a huge political ambitions. Yeah, yeah, I would. And Tucker's not going to run. Tucker has serious political ambitions, and I think his posturing now is doing so for those ambitions in the future. Yeah, I think he'll do this show for a number of years. Even if he runs a losing campaign. I will give you this. That does make probably the most sense as to why he's all of a sudden shifting.
Starting point is 01:19:21 That's why I think all of these guys are doing it. Joe Kent is doing it for the same reason. They're looking for the lowest common denominator. Totally. And the war is unpopular. So if you want to get the largest vote share, you say I oppose Trump. All of these dwebs are doing opportunities. Same with Marjorie Taylor Green.
Starting point is 01:19:35 she's going to have a comeback. Joe Kent, he's going to have a comeback. I don't think Tucker's running. I think he's not. I think he could. I don't think he will because there's a... I think he's open to the idea if the right opportunities comes forth. And I think he's laying down the ground work for it.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Think about it. His son, his... I mean, I guess he couldn't overtake him. He could run as an independent or Democrat. He can't run as a Republican. He can't run. You might see him on. No, he'd have to run as a Republican.
Starting point is 01:20:00 I think he'd get a ton of support because he was the 8 p.m. Fox News slot guy. It's not going to get it. First of all, you need to understand the people who watched his show six years ago will be dead in two years. Or are already are dying. I love my baby boomer. And again, I'm not trying to rag on these people, but it's called the mortality shelf. When six years ago, the average age was 69.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Now it's 74. In two more years, we're expecting to see like a 20 to 30 percent death rate among boomers as they approach 79 years. Do you think Tucker could win in a primary against, you know, I against who else he's writing against? No, because Trump's base is. solid at around 40%. So we have seen this in polling for the past decade of the Republican Party, about 40% are for Trump no matter what he does. And we can see this with people like Katter. Yeah, but what about when Trump's gone? So when Trump leaves, these people are going to look at Tucker as a betrayer. They're going to say, they're going to say Rubio or Vance, who stood by
Starting point is 01:20:56 Trump. They're going to say Tucker betrayed Trump. And they're going to call him a coward for apologizing. Yeah, I guess the coalition he's trying to build, he'd be able to As an independent or Democrat, but not as a Republican. Sure, I hope so. Republicans support the conflict in Iran. Not every single one. It's like 77%. When you look at the aggregate polling, ask a Republican, do you support the military actions in Iran?
Starting point is 01:21:18 It's like 77% yes. So Tucker's not going to win the Republican primary. Rubio might. J.D. Vance and Rubio can both come out and say, we hear you and we understand why it was unpopular. We will do better. But we stood by Trump. We are loyal. I think a lot of the issues that I think Vance tries to focus on.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Tucker would have more credibility speaking to. I think Tucker works the populist angle, although he's not a... He's not going to get any donors from the Israel... He's already super rich. He could self-fund. Yeah, no, you need like $2 billion to run for president. I think there are a lot...
Starting point is 01:21:51 I mean, I think there are people deep pockets who are willing to support a guy like this. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm just saying... You are wrong. I hope I am. I think he has a lot more credibility, again, with the issues that I think Vance Virgins... You don't start pandering to Anna Kasparian
Starting point is 01:22:04 and Jenk U.S. to try and win a Republican primary. Sorry. It's not going to happen. Yeah. So I hope it to be the case. Right now, J.D. Vance and Marco Rubia are more primed for a Republican primary than Tucker Carlson is. Tucker Carliners is a spoiler as an independent and pull some conservatives, but he'd also pull more Democrats. The anti-Trump, anti-Israel anti-war stance, substantially popular with Democrats, very lightly and marginally popular with conservatives
Starting point is 01:22:28 and moderately popular with libertarians. Yeah. Aside from if Tucker will run for president in the future, I think, again, a lot of these other nerds are posturing in on the sidelines, preparing to run for something down the line. People like, again, Joe Kent, I don't think we've seen the last of people like Marjorie Taylor Green. I think they're waiting for, you know, two, four years out where they're going to pop their heads back up and more of those characters.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Maybe he could run with J.D. Vance. Or maybe he could just be the mouthpiece for it. I don't think he might even need to do it. I mean, why would he give up all that money and freedom? I don't think he's going to do it. Well, his son works with Vance or used to work with Vance. That's why I'm wondering if they would work together. if Vance asks him to be his VP, he'd probably say yes.
Starting point is 01:23:06 But other than that, I don't think he'd spoil the Republican ticket. Because he has no way he would beat Vance in a primary. It has yet to be told. We'll see. He won't. And he'd also be able to run as like an outsider. And that's very advantageous. He could be trying to go after the youth vote, to be honest,
Starting point is 01:23:23 because younger voters are anti-Israel. So he's looking for a new, like maybe he wants to target like the Fuentes crowd and pull them into the Republican Party. Yeah, him and Vance together would be pretty powerful. Democrat Party? That's possible. I think... And he's been virtue signaling
Starting point is 01:23:38 hard towards Muslims, too. I think recently he said, like, Islam is not a threat. And then he was also talking about how Muslims really respect Jesus Christ. I don't accept the divinity of Christ, but neither do Muslim. I just want to address what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:23:50 I actually am going to give it to you, it does look like political ambitions. It does look like he's trying to court a lowest common denominator for a political... Laying the groundwork down. And that's, especially with the virtue signaling towards Muslim.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Because he's getting tons of liberal organizations have been praising him. and far-off organizations have been warning the liberals to stop praising him. I do believe that if you had a whack-aloon far-lefty Democrat and Tucker Carlson, young turks would vote Tucker. The media is so willing to use anybody as an anti-Trump figure that they will make Tucker Carlson a media darling now.
Starting point is 01:24:20 He's willing to fight back against the fascism that is Donald Trump. Haven't you heard out bad of an authoritarian Nazi Hitler that Trump is? How much do you want to bet they're going to start, Tucker's going to start making appearances in a bunch of shows? Oh, yeah, he already has been. Yeah. Wait, but now you're switching your side on the gentleman's bet. Now you do think he might.
Starting point is 01:24:36 I didn't say, I said, I do think it does look like he's got political ambitions. Yeah. I don't think he's going to run. I think he's, but you've convinced me a little bit more. So I've shifted the probability, though I still think it's a no. If the right opportunity comes up. I'm starting to see it a little bit. He'd do it if he thinks he could win.
Starting point is 01:24:50 He's come like from, like I used to have lefty friends say, but Tucker Carlson, you know, saying he's like super far right. And now over like the last five years, he's become completely different. Tucker could target independence. He could get moderate conservative leading types who don't like Trump and don't vote Republican anymore. He's such an opportunist chameleon. He's just switched up on so many things.
Starting point is 01:25:13 You really just have to think. He's saying whatever he has to do to get support or what he thinks is popular. And I think it's a funny schick, the way he dresses up as a sort of like everyday lumberjack type guy. He's been rich since he was a child. He never needed to work a day in his life. People don't understand.
Starting point is 01:25:27 He's like the air to some frozen. Swanson TV dinner fortune. Yeah, exactly. So he's not really. It's his stepmom, I believe. They married into that so that wealth does exist in their family. He went to private schools his entire life. They're rich. Filty rich.
Starting point is 01:25:41 And I think he likes to do this popular stick as if. Now that I think about it, I've just kind of re-evalued everything. And honestly, as I say here today, I'm tormented for having voted for Trump. I just, you know, he's the Antichrist. And now, you know, actually, I don't, I cry at night. I cry because I should never have supported Donald Trump. You're complicit. I just realized that trans kids are real and should be allowed to get whatever they want.
Starting point is 01:26:06 And the CIA is perfect and always the best. Russia is bad. China is good. And, you know, really, I just don't want Democrats to hurt me. What you got apology, in my opinion? What's really crazy about Tucker is like, I told me about it. It's like how fake it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:21 What did you think was going to, like the genuine question? No, what do you think he knows exactly what he's doing? When you voted for Donald Trump, did you think he was going to release the Epstein files and then end world war? Like, bro, we're part of a system that's continuously moving forward. There's no... He took money from Miriam Adelson. Yeah, his... He, what's his name?
Starting point is 01:26:38 He bombed Soleimani. He hired John Bolton. The idea that he was not going to have wars was stupid. I mean, the Abraham Accords is his... What's his son-in-law's name, Jared Kushner? Like, bro's, like, about his saddled up to the Israelis as you can possibly be diplomatically. He's letting him run as Israeli, what, Middle Eastern policy? Is this guy...
Starting point is 01:26:56 I don't know if he's a self-acknowledge Zionist? Like, pretty obvious. Pretty obvious, guys. It's just not as bad as what the Democrats are trying to pigeonhole in without a primary. Why doesn't Musk get much out of the president? He's donated more money via Super PACs to the president's campaign than Miriam Edelson did. Why don't you think Musk gets anything out of this? Because this world economic order wants Israel to control the Middle East, and they're using the American military to do it.
Starting point is 01:27:25 The world economic form wants... Ian, that's made up. It seems to want stability in the Middle East led by the Israelis. I think the W.E.F. is generally anti-Zionists. What's the evidence? Yeah, he's correct. I think they continually threatened to, the new Hungarian PM just threatened to arrest Netanyahu. They don't support Israel, the Europeans. We're probably talking about 80 million different people that want 80 million different things,
Starting point is 01:27:47 but this push to create and control the Middle East with like taking Iraq and Afghanistan. We're taking Iraq now? Yeah, we've had it for 20 years. They want, so like anybody that's not, like the reason they're wish Mary Madison is because it aligns, with that goal, which has been there since the 1990s or whatever. That's not correct. I'm sorry. Then prove that.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Yeah. So the reason why we went into the Gulf War in the 90s, the first Gulf War, was because of Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. Saddam Hussein was against the liberal economic order. Shortly after this, we heard George H.W. Bush talk about the emergence of a new world order. And this is where they were roping China. And this when they began to send U.S. manufacturing to China and Southeast Asia.
Starting point is 01:28:29 The reason why we went to Iraq the second time was because Saddam Hussein was trying to trade, try to oil in euro. He was trying to operate outside of the petro dollar system. Additionally, the biggest issue had been Iran. So we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan for one reason. We set up a bunch of military bases along the borders surrounding Iran as we were preparing for a strike on Iran. Most other issues are just fabrications. Israel is ancillary to this as an ally in the Middle East that we largely fund, which creates a forward operation center for U.S. military.
Starting point is 01:29:02 It seems like it. Additionally, again, Libya had nothing to do with Israel. NATO and Western forces killed Gaddafi because he was trying to trade gold in dinar, among other things. The U.S. was deeply involved in fomenting the Arab Spring. We wanted to get rid of Bashar al-Assad, not because of Israel, because we wanted to build the pipeline from Qatar through Saudi Arabia, Turkey, up to the water, through the Gulf, through Turkey, through Ukraine, into Europe to offset Russia's gasmen.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Israel's like if you were an emperor, Israel would be one of your kingdoms and you'd give them control of their territory. They would serve you. This is what the liberal economic order wants. And why didn't we do that after we dismantled the governments of Iraq and Afghanistan? We are in the process. No, we are not. We pulled our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan and the Taliban took back over. And then we reposition. We're over there right now. The Taliban is running Afghanistan.
Starting point is 01:29:53 What's that? The Taliban took Afghanistan. It's a mess. It's a quagmire. So why didn't we turn it over to Israel? in the 20 years we're not about turning over territory to Israel what do you mean you just said it was we just want them to kind of oversee it militarily why didn't we have them do it in 20 years because we don't have the territory yet we had Afghanistan for 20 years well that's a bit barren rock we don't have Iran Iran is the jewel Iran is what they need to to secure the area so
Starting point is 01:30:18 why didn't we give control to of Iraq and Afghanistan to Israel that's I don't think that was ever a plan to do that because so you're not saying America's military is in You're saying the West, the WF wants Israel to control the Iranian territory. It seems like they want a quadripolar world. Dude, I think they want a two-state solution, the W.EF. Like, they're just trying to do business. Yeah, they want stability. And they're, they, they, they, the, Israel is a wonderful stabilizing force in the,
Starting point is 01:30:46 for the liberal economic order. Are they, if anything, again, like, people argue with the opposite about Israel. The argument from their perspective of that the West or WF wants to give Israel control the Middle East is something made up by whack-a-loons on the internet. And I will say this with 100% confidence because we on this show, since its inception, have been tracking conflict in the Middle East and Eastern Europe and Europe. And I have personally been following this for 20 years. And I can tell you what you're saying is fabricated whole cloth by retards who we call the retard right.
Starting point is 01:31:15 So like that area that we'll say a call, just called the British Mandate for Palestine. When they set up Israel there in 1949, you don't think they wanted Israel to be a power? What does that have to do with what you're saying right now? Because it's like you read a cliff notes from some anti-Zionists. Why do you think this whole, this whole movement, this whole move to create Israel there happened? You think British, Britain gained influence in the Middle East as a result of this foundation of Israel. The Zionists committed terrorist bombings against the British because they felt as though the British were oppressing them. That's possible too.
Starting point is 01:31:52 No, that's right. Remember the King David Hotel bombing. Again, these were Zionists. who were pissed off at the British, who wanted to kick the British out of the area. So to suggest somehow that the British were trying to have the foundation of Israel to increase their influence in the region, the Israel's were fighting back against the British. The British and the French set up Israel to be there, and then, you know, whatever Israel wants their independence, I don't blame them for kicking out their, their handlers, you know.
Starting point is 01:32:20 So again, to go to modern and contemporary military structures outside of what British Britain and France did, which is immaterial to U.S. foreign policy, for the most part, these days, Libya's strike had nothing to do with what Israel wanted. Barack Obama and Operation, was it Timber Sycamore, I think, was that what it is? Where provided weapons to various rebels, which eventually fell into the hands and became ISIS, had, again, nothing to do with Israel. Only ancillary that Israel is around there. Let's table the statement that the intention is to set Israel up as the leader.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Forget it. Maybe that's true. Maybe it's not. Let's table that. but if you didn't see this Middle Eastern conquest on the horizon, this is why I brought it up, it's a very obvious plan to dominate the Middle Eastern forces and convert them into a liberal economic station. Indeed, that's correct. The intention here is that Iran has been operating outside the petro dollar system for decades, and the U.S. has struggled to get them to fall in line. Even right now, it would seem, whatever Trump's plan is, he's struggling to get Iran to fall in line.
Starting point is 01:33:23 It is not some backwards desert nation. It is 90 plus million people heavily developed. I think if you're arguing that the United States has an interest in setting up democratic allies in the area, and like that's the WEF's plan. Like, yeah, that makes sense to me. I think that was the general goal in Iraq to set up a democratic ally. That was the general goal, I believe, with whatever regime change we do in Iran. We used to be allies with the Shah in Iran.
Starting point is 01:33:49 So if the idea was we wanted a democratic ally in the Middle East, that's why we're continuing to support Israel. Yeah, I think that's a large part of it, too, because we like our democratic allies. Even if they're not democratic, we like having our allies in the region, but the democracy helps too. Why didn't Israel keep the Sinai Peninsula? Because they're super soft. They should have.
Starting point is 01:34:07 Yeah. I mean, I don't understand the reason. They traded back for peace on paper with Egypt. Right. They could have just kept it. They probably should have kept it. And the same with Gaza. They gave back Gaza. What did the Israelis get in return for giving back Gaza?
Starting point is 01:34:23 They got Hamas and they got October 7th. So I don't think giving land back to the Arabs that you won in wars has been particularly wise for the Israelis. I don't know. Yeah, so, you know, we had that woman on who claimed that the reason Zelensky is running Ukraine is because he's a Jew and Netanyahu wants a corridor to Ukraine. It's just like when a retard makes something up ignoring 30 years of U.S. foreign policy in the region, U.S.AID operations as well as, like Russian negotiations with the EU, Ukraine. It's like insane. And the thing that really irks me about this greater Israel conspiracy that the reason we went to Iraq and Afghanistan is because Israel made us do it is that it absolves the World Economic Forum of their true influence
Starting point is 01:35:08 and the liberal economic orders manipulations and an injection of gay communism into these countries. Yeah, it is a big red herring for the bankers. They're like, oh yeah, focus on Israel. Go after Israel. I don't want to sound like such a Jew about it, but the history of scapegoating. But the Israelis did start this war in Iran, and I don't see them anywhere around right now. They lit it off and then Americans... Hold on, hold on. History will not look back at this and claim the Israelis did it. They'll look back and say the 12-day war never ended. It will say the war with Iran started in June of 2025 when the U.S. with Israel bombed several sites in Iran to take out their nuclear capabilities.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Iran was able to smuggle out the nuclear materials before the bombs went off. Trump claimed they did. This result, when you read the paragraph in a history book, it's going to say the war began in June of 2025 with the 12-day war. However, the war never ended because Iran successfully smuggled out their nuclear materials, to which Trump ultimately staged another intervention. They will, like, it's going to be one moment. This eight-month gap between when we bombed them and then,
Starting point is 01:36:20 again now when we're bombing them again. There's no historical distinction. They're not going to back, well, the war ended, then eight months later was another war. I think there's an argument to be had that we've actually been in like a loose world war since 2022 when Russia first invaded Ukraine. We were assisting Ukraine aggressively. Then the following year was October 7th, where Israel obviously was fighting Hamas that expanded into Lebanon, continued into Syria, then eventually Iran, and then round two with
Starting point is 01:36:49 Iran in current day, Ukraine war is still ongoing, Gaza war is still sort of ongoing. Europeans were heavily involved, obviously, with what's going on in Ukraine. All the Gulf nations were attacked and defended themselves. In a version of this, we're really fighting a world war and defeating our enemies in detail, meaning that we're fighting our enemies individually. So this is all you're really going down one by one. So I think you can make that argument, especially given how close Iran and Russia have been, exchanging military for their drones or what have you that the Russians have been using very aggressively.
Starting point is 01:37:25 There's also information about Russia supplying coordinate details for U.S. assets in the area. China sending weapons. Yeah, China sending at least fuel and gas. I actually asked. No, no, there were planes flying from China before the war kicked off after the 12-day war. I asked Secretary HECSeth about this actually last week about reports that during this ceasefire, China might be sending over weapons. allegedly the president in Xi Jinping had a conversation and said that that's not going to be happening.
Starting point is 01:37:50 But given how involved we are with Ukraine and Israel and how involved China is with Russia and Iran and North Korea also being involved. I think there is a loose argument really to be made that we've been in a sort of loose world war for the past few years. I agree. And the argument now is that there's over 20 nations involved in this conflict with Iran. The start of World War II was not like one moment shot heard around the world where everyone said World War II has begun. It was a series of conflicts all over the world happening at once that escalated. I feel like we forget Ukraine still happening. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Like nobody really gives a shit. We don't really talk about it. Yeah, the Russian economy has transformed completely in the past five years. Four years. And you know, there's just thousands of deaths a month. Nobody even gives a shit about the drone footage, which I still watch. I know we really like to see all the gore coming out of Israel, Gaza and the war that happened there. But there's a ton of drone footage.
Starting point is 01:38:41 They record all of their stuff on their FPS drones. Some of the most morbid shit you could see online. I don't even see it on Twitter. People, you really have to seek it out. And this is still ongoing. Nobody really seems to, it's not of the news. The president kind of gave up on the peace deals early on in his administration. Putin didn't seem too interested in them.
Starting point is 01:38:58 And it is really a war of attrition out there. And nobody gives a shit. We're going to go to the Rumble rants and superchats. So smash the like button, share the show and all that good stuff. The uncensored portion of the show will be at rumble.com slash timcastIRL at 10 o'clock. Don't miss it. Not so family friendly, but always fun and funny. All right, we got super poopers.
Starting point is 01:39:18 He says Southern Poverty Law Center needs to be nuked and then says a disparaging term. I can't read on the internet. We got G.G. Will says sounds just like the Nancy Pelosi wrap-up smear. Which one does? What sounds like that? I don't know what that's a reference to.
Starting point is 01:39:36 This is a good one. Let me pull up the New York Times real quick. And I want to grab the, here we go. McCarleson says that district isn't in Virginia isn't a lobster it's a scorpion notice the tip of the tail is filled with venom and here you can see the seventh it's like a lobster but the tip of the tail is filled with venom I think when he was talking about the wrap-up smear is talking about the SPLC stuff about feeding them the story and then repeat oh right right right right right right yeah get the inside scoop yep these people are evil man
Starting point is 01:40:06 John Rambo says, I remember around Trump's first term, SPLC was tracking black nationalism statistics as well. It more than doubled white nationalist hate groups. They purged it. I took screenshots of the old data. Interesting. What's going on with the black nationalists and the black Jews? Black Hebrew Israelites? They're crazy.
Starting point is 01:40:28 Is that common in your community? I don't know. I do see some people. I like going to Jamaican restaurants and I'll see just dudes with the Star of David. and I don't know if they'd fuck with me or not. No, they don't like me. I have a funny story, but I'll tell it later. But I ended up going to what was called a Bible study.
Starting point is 01:40:45 My friend brought me. And I started noticing weird things. And I realized later, oh, it's a black Hebrew-Israelite place. And there's like the four women were actually the guy's wives. It was just a crazy. How common is it in the black community? I think it's becoming more popular, especially as like a lot of the anti-Israel, anti-Zionist stuff. It's like, oh, wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:41:05 Oh, they're fake. We're the real Jews. Yeah, that's... Do they believe in, was it, Yakub? Yakub. Is that what they believe? I guess. I know, I know there's like a lot of like weird stuff with like Agartha and like, even the white
Starting point is 01:41:19 national circles. They talk about Yakub. So with black people and just converting and becoming extreme in these weird, I know some are, they go to jail and come out Islam? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They go in Jamal, come out, Muhammad. Yeah. No, there's definitely a bit of rise.
Starting point is 01:41:34 It's either Jew or Muslim for these. Yeah, yeah, there's definitely been a rise in that in the black community. I've definitely noticed it, especially in like the cities. Like, you'll see them patrolling around and it's weird stuff going on. It's the religious resurgence among the black community. I don't know. Maybe there are just as many Catholics and Christians that just get a lot less attention than do the Hebrewites and black Muslims.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Yeah, they're trying to find, like, they're trying to search for a purpose, you know. They, they cling to this stuff because it gives them like an almost like a flying. Give them an identity, which is important. Do you think Trump is the antichrist? I think that it's it's way more likely now, but not for the same reasons that Tucker Carlson and all them say. And like I want to say too, I think I might have even influenced Tucker a little bit. I mentioned a little bit earlier on the show before. One of my friends, Daryl Cooper, mentioned me to Tucker a couple years ago.
Starting point is 01:42:24 And so I don't know if there was maybe some influence there. But Tucker Carlson and all these people completely missed the mark about the end because they associate Israel and Antichrist. like, oh, the Antichrist is pro-Israel, but it's like biblically, yeah, temporarily, but that's supposed to shift. That's a, that's a short, that's a temporary time. So you're saying Tucker's the Antichrist? Well, who knows? No, but, but, but seriously, you know, Tucker Carlson and all these guys, he's got a fake right eye and his right arm is withered. Does he actually? No, I'm not, right. Wide hand is always dabbed fully with makeup, not always, but very often. Yeah, Trump's. Yeah, Trump's. It's got this spreading.
Starting point is 01:43:06 It's very obvious. And, like, it's very obviously how aggressively it's covered up, too. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's spreading. It's getting bigger. Yeah, that's, that's prophecy. It talks about his, his, his, uh, right arm shall be withered. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:18 It's pretty interesting, right? We're watching it. It was never going to be like you wake up one day and Trump's like, my right arm withered and my eye hurts. It's just, it's going to be a slow gradual thing. A slow thing. Like, what if Trump, like, announced like he's having cataract issues and his right eye is, is, you know, is going?
Starting point is 01:43:32 That'd be insane. That'd be crazy, wouldn't it? But the injury, the bullet to his head, some say lines up with the prophecy about the... Yeah, some people say that. I think it's more of a foreshadowing almost, like almost like a symbolic type of thing. Like I don't think it's like a literal fulfillment of like Revelation 133. I think it could be like a foreshadow. Do you think AI is the beast?
Starting point is 01:43:54 I do. Maybe not the beast, but I think AI could probably have like a big part in like, because like Trump's pushing the AI thing like pretty hard, isn't he? And the beast is described. what like seven heads with like 10 crowns or something is that? Yeah. Well, you know, actually in the Bible it talks about how there's an image that there's an image of the beast and it's given a mouth to speak. And yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:16 Yeah. And like I think like that could be AI. It's AI, like, maybe. I mean, you can't like unless you have everybody is a cell phone and you can't buy our trade. You go to stores now and they're cashless. I was saying you go to the airport. You can't even get your ticket unless you have a phone.
Starting point is 01:44:30 You go to a kiosk and say print my ticket. Nope. It says we'll email it to your phone. So you have to have one of these network devices. That's the beast, bro. The phone is the mark of the beast. Then it's going to be Neurlink and I was going to have it on their heads. Yeah, the neural link.
Starting point is 01:44:43 Wasn't it like your right hand and your head or something like that? Yeah, right hand or your forehead. Yeah, the neuralink thing. And like, there's a lot of weird thing. And you talked about earlier about like the Trump World Order, like something about cryptocurrency. Like, I'm wondering, like, could cryptocurrency play a role in all this? I think it's just AI in general is the beast.
Starting point is 01:45:02 It's all happening. it is yeah yeah the earth actually is only about 50 years old we all were created at the exact same time memories we have all fake that earth was created the day ian was born dude you're making me feel like i'm 27 again i was psychotic for like a year of my life leaving that for real only a year you you can track it on youtube i made youtube videos almost every day going through it i thought i was creating reality you are creating reality but you're also part of a reality that's being created by others that's what i would be like the funniest thing of man if it turned out that like Ian was some prophet and like religious folk had to accept it.
Starting point is 01:45:40 They were like, no, not that guy. He said too much weird things about my religion. It's like, you know, like, you know, God's miracle proves it. It's Ian, you know what I mean? Like he's a divine prophet. People are like, wait, hey, when Jesus comes back, I think they're all like, they think he's going to be a good guy or be like really cool. But do, though Jesus talks mad shit about Judaism. Like he was on the outs with the mainstream. Did you see the, uh, view when that lady was like, Jesus never went around claiming I was the Messiah. I saw that. And then other lady was like, yes, he did.
Starting point is 01:46:12 And she was like, no, that would make him a narcissist. It's like, no, it wouldn't. He literally did this. My last name's Crossland. And I started to get a Messiah complex like around that time when I started doing YouTube. I was like, oh my God, I'm the center of everything. But I feel like if I believe, because I want to help the world. I'm like, what if I could be the second coming?
Starting point is 01:46:28 What if I could be that guy? Why can't you just help the world without being the second? Exactly. Because if I start to believe this, this philosophy. of the second coming and the end of the world and the anti that it will become reality and there will be a horrible war that kills whatever you become a cult leader yeah and i don't want that i don't i want to actually help war people people don't know this but ian's right eye it's a glass eye and his arm has actually got a metal rod in it what if ian was the antichrist the whole time whole time now the
Starting point is 01:46:52 christ's like yeah i believe it we're all capable of it well he doesn't age so dude everybody could become the antichrist in the heat of the moment when it's all on the line if you make if you choose evil, if you choose sin. And somebody explained to me, I feel like people use Antichrist and so many... Yeah, because Ian is literally, I don't know what we're calling about it. I don't know. In the Bible, it's a guy. Let Donnie describe it because he's the expert.
Starting point is 01:47:14 Explain that, but my take is like maybe it's a way people can be. You can be Christ-like or you can be anti-Christ-like. Anyway, Donnie, take it away. So Antichrist, okay, so there's the spirit of Antichrist, right? So there's been many Antichrist throughout history, whatever. But, you know, in Revelation, it talks about the beasts. people call him the Antichrist. So in Revelation, it doesn't actually say the Antichrist. It says the beast. And the beast is this guy, right? He's a strong Gentile warrior from the West who helps Israel and, you know, defeats their enemies and is like, you know, speaking great boisterous things.
Starting point is 01:47:51 And then, and then, you know, the Israelis are like, wow, like this is our guy. Like, this guy is so awesome. He's defeating our enemies. He's doing what we want. And then at some point, you know, he allows them to build their temple and he allows them to do their sacrifices. And then he flips. He flips. He takes control over the Holy City, over Jerusalem. Revelation 11, 2. The Gentiles will trample the Holy City for 42 months, right? So it's three and a half years of the tribulation. And launches the biggest persecution of Jews so bad that, according to Zechariah, two thirds of Jews will die. and the last third of them will literally cry out to God and all of their hope and pride and their military and their human might will be crushed
Starting point is 01:48:37 and then in that moment of humility they'll cry out to God and then that's when Zechariah 12 says that they will mourn for the one they pierced so they'll recognize Jesus as the Messiah that's when Jesus comes back he defeats all the Gentile armies of the world he dashes the kingdoms with the breath of his mouth and that's when he establishes his kingdom in Jerusalem
Starting point is 01:48:55 in Jerusalem. That's like basically like the short version of Revelation. And then that's when the thousand year came in practice when people are talking about antichrist and reference this. It's just a euphemism for people you don't like? A lot of people use it like that. Is that what it comes down to? I'm trying to really understand. A lot of people use it like that. Yeah. Somebody sucks as a communist is anti-Christ. Oh, I used to like this guy and he's manipulating me, anti-Christ. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like, I don't like that people throw out the term like so much to the point where it means nothing anymore. Kind of like the word like Nazi or something. Yeah. It's like, it just doesn't mean anything, but it's like, biblically speaking, it means a very specific thing.
Starting point is 01:49:30 And then when we're talking about eschatology, and we're talking about the beast, then we're talking about an even more specific thing. So, like, and that's why it's like when people like Tucker Carlson and all these people like talk about, oh, I think Trump's an Antichrist or the Antichrist. It's like, I don't really think he has a good understanding of what that means and why, right? I think he's just using it because it sounds. Sounds good. It's provocative. It gets the people going. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:53 And it's really a dig at Israel, like, I think is really the heart of it. It's like, you know, because like the whole thing is like, oh, like, you know, they hate Jesus and like that's, you know, antichrist. So that's kind of like how they're using it, right? But like, biblically speaking, the antichrist is, you know, a Gentile king who allies with Israel for a time and then flips on them. So if Trump is the Antichrist, that would mean there would come a point in time that he's... Where he flips on the Jews. Where he flips on them. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:50:24 So wait, doesn't he want that? Doesn't Tucker want the... Well, I don't think Tucker understands it. I don't think Tucker understands it. I don't think anyone who's talking about it. They just hear antichrist. Oh, you're not Christ. You're against Christ.
Starting point is 01:50:38 It makes you bad because I love Christ so much. Yeah, a lot of people just associate antichrist with Israel. And it just feeds like what they already believe about things. And they're not really, they're not really like using like the text or anything to like kind of discerns that. Let's grab some of these chats. We got Mariusia says, Tim, please read the book the Red Amendment about the evil implications of 14A beyond just birthright citizenship in terms of eroding our rights and state sovereignty. Also look into the maxims of law. Interesting. All right. Mariusa also says read a post talking about how early settlers came to America for
Starting point is 01:51:17 abundant wild meat in a time when most lived on veggies and grain. Subsistence peasants, risk much to live like lords. Plus it helps to raise IQ. Interesting. All right. Missy Kinn says, Tim, now do you believe that Vice News and El Reeve were likely partnering with ACLU to embed and provoke Nazis in Charlottesville to build their narrative? I don't know. I mean, maybe she works for, did she still work at CNN? I don't know. I don't know. I think a lot of these people are CIA. The way it works is that the CIA. will go to like a 22 year old like intern and say hey I'm going to be your source go to your boss and tell them you've got a source in the CIA and the FBI will feed you stories they go to their boss
Starting point is 01:52:05 this is how they cultivate a journalist they can then leak information to the young journalist is really excited to be like I have a source in the CIA then the news organization loves it because they can't be sued because they have a source of the CIA who's claiming these things and they'll be like shield boss you'll never figure out who the person who's leaking to us is and they're probably lying but so what you can't sue me and that and there you go All right. What's the King Salami says, Tim slept on his friend's couch for a bit. Indeed, I did.
Starting point is 01:52:35 And as I was sleeping on my friend, I was working at Vice, starting Vice News while sleeping on a couch. Shout out to Harrison. What up, brother. Sleeping on his couch. And there were other people who had their own apartments and were saying like, I wish I could do what you're doing. And I'm like, well, instead of running an apartment, I spent a couple hundred bucks on a couch. And then I put the rest of the money in my savings account. And then I travel around with it.
Starting point is 01:52:58 And you know, what are you going to do, huh? Let's see. Bamboo says a Republican government that does nothing for you is much better than a Democrat government that actually oppresses you. Right. And that's ultimately the point. The unfortunate reality is it just means you can have tyranny now or later. And it's like, later I guess. Like, okay.
Starting point is 01:53:18 And that's what's happening? Yeah. Later I guess. Do you think this is the Ed Times? Yeah, I think so. Oh, yeah. Yeah. How much long do we have?
Starting point is 01:53:27 Well, I was just talking to Chris about this, but if anyone's interested, they should watch Messiah 2030. It's a really, really good thing on YouTube. Really? Yeah, yeah. 2030. I feel like there's a long history of people making a lot of buzz about the world about to end. Yeah, for sure. You really want to get people going.
Starting point is 01:53:48 You really want to scare the fuck out of people. Oh, guess what's about to happen in five years? Guess who's coming back or guess the world's ending? All that stuff, yeah. But this one is really interesting for a lot of reasons. But, you know. No, I'm sure. So was it going to end or not?
Starting point is 01:54:05 Well, technically, in Revelation, I mean, Jesus coming back isn't really the end of the world, but it's sort of a new beginning, right? Because, like, Jesus comes back. It's basically the beginning of a new world order, really, because Jesus is supposed to come back, and he's supposed to basically take over the world and establish a new government over all the Gentile nations, right, from Jerusalem. So, like, that's, that's really the whole point. A one-world government?
Starting point is 01:54:31 Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely. And my theory is that all the conspiracy theorists and all the people who talk about the New World Order are actually falling into the deception because they're unwittingly being set up to oppose Christ's return and reign when he does come. So you think he's coming?
Starting point is 01:54:50 Oh, yeah, he's coming. But do you think, like, in our lifetime, we will see... Yeah, yeah, absolutely. What if Trump's actually the race? return. If Trump is? Yeah. That would be crazy. Well, well, I don't think that's, that's, because Trump, Trump is like the embodiment of like everything like that's anti-Christ. Yeah. I mean, and not in a way where like, like, people accuse me being like a Democrat or something. Like I'm by no means. But like, you know, he's, he's very like, he exalts himself. He's very like into
Starting point is 01:55:17 his ego. Like he's very, uh, he hates forgiveness, right? Even at, we were talking earlier, but even at, uh, Charlie's funeral, he, you know, he talked about how he hates his enemies. He did, you know. It's just like, it's just like the polar opposite, right? Yeah. So, man, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I think there's a lot of things that are undeniable that could be, well, I'll put it this way, we are not wet robots in an indifferent universe. That is just not true. And anybody who actually paid attention to what was going on in the world, like, bro, our last studio was across the street from Sandy Hooks Avenue. it like you know where it was it's like we're in harper's ferry like all of these things just yeah we're training AI for the next generation of governance which might last a thousand years and like I think what sets the United States apart is its morality the people's morality that we've extrapolated laws which comes from Christianity so to to have a profuse speaker that exalts or exiles the virtue of morality through the United States lens because I've always been like you know my three
Starting point is 01:56:24 dudes are Jesus Einstein and George Washington. Like, we need a George Washington that's like Jesus. Alex says, Tucker is fake and gay. Kinsinger is fake and gay. They make it so easy just to say Trump is right, even if we disagree with him, because they are such psychos.
Starting point is 01:56:42 Let's see. OJP says, the most ideal move for the U.S. and Trump in regards to Iran is to send Israeli troops as a proxy, both right and left, would agree to this. You see, that's the thing. And if that was really the case, Israel will be doing all of it. If what was really the case? That the goal was to have Israel take over the Middle East?
Starting point is 01:56:59 No, apparently someone's going to fight their wars for them and that person is going to be the Antichrist. I don't know what's going on. So this would mean that Jesus has to be like the Jesus would have to be alive right now. Well, well, the whole thing is he he never, he resurrected. So he's in, so he's seated at the right end of the father. He's been alive the whole time. Yeah. He comes back. He comes back. He descends on the earth and he doesn't come as the suffering servant this time. This time he comes as a warrior king. Ripped.
Starting point is 01:57:25 I don't mean that directly. Is he going to be like a very strong warrior-looking dude with like armor and? Well, he's actually going to, so it says that he actually has a white robe dipped in blood and he's got a sword coming from his mouth. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then and that's when, and he's going to come and he's literally going to kill like a lot of people, like according to Revelation.
Starting point is 01:57:44 And he's going to, he's going to, it says he's going to dash the kingdoms of the world with the breath of his mouth. So like the West, you know, a lot of these nations, you know, according to the Bible that all these kingdoms are going to basically fall and capitulate to Jesus. Yeah, that's kingdom. Bro, I've seen a character in a white rub with a sword coming out of his mouth before. Dashing the kingdoms of earth is like getting rid of national
Starting point is 01:58:06 governance for corporate governance. You don't know who that is? You don't know who that is? No. From Naruto? Yes. That's Arochi-Maru. Oh, wow. I wonder if there was some inspiration. Well, the inspiration for Arachi Morrow is based on a Japanese folk tale about what is it?
Starting point is 01:58:23 Sunade, Arochi Morrow, and Jariah. The valiant Jiraya Knight saves Lady Sunade from Arochi Morrow. And then they just use that. Like, that's what they do in Japan.
Starting point is 01:58:34 Like, people don't understand that Goku from Dragon Ball Z is actually just the generic monkey god they have 50 million versions of. Oh, wow. And then they just, you know.
Starting point is 01:58:44 I thought it was generic white guy. Goku? Yeah. No, Goku flew on a nimbus cloud and a staff that extended. and a monkey tail. That was the original from Dragon Ball. And there's a bunch of different versions of that same character.
Starting point is 01:58:56 Like an old folk tale in Japan or whatever. Interesting. Yeah. And then Naruto, like the nine-tailed fox. It's just like reiterated versions. Like in Pokemon, Nine Tails is a Fox with Nine Tails. That's true. It's regerted it the same thing over and over again.
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Starting point is 01:59:36 Right on. Good evening, everybody. Thanks for tuning in. I am Alad Eliahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast. You can find me on social media at Alad Eliyahu. Thanks for tuning in. What's up, Ian? Just drinking some water, man. Ooh, I changed the pacing. I liked that. I was in full control for a moment. Hydrate, take care of your body. Donnie, thanks for coming. Great to see you again, Alad.
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Starting point is 02:00:01 was it Messiah 2030 on YouTube tonight? For sure. Yeah, I'm going to check that out. How long is it? Chris watched the part one. So there's three parts. All together, it's six hours. But you can just watch part one.
Starting point is 02:00:12 You can just watch part one. It's like two hours. Chris watched it last night. He told me his mind was, His mind was blown. Oh, man. I definitely got to watch it. The whole car ride.
Starting point is 02:00:20 Wait, how long was it? Like, maybe like two hours. Oh, my, two hours. I don't have two hours. We're an hour and a half. I'll watch tomorrow. Anyway, you can follow me at Carter Banks on X and at Carter Banks official on Instagram,
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