Timcast IRL - Trump DOJ Opens Probe Into Democrat Swalwell For Mortgage Fraud w/ Scott Horton

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

Tim, Phil, Ian, Mary, & Seamus are joined by Scott Horton to discuss the Trump DOJ targeting Eric Swalwell for mortgage fraud, the Democrats' latest hoax failing, a massive solar flare hitting earth, ...and America's out-of-control debt crisis.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Seamus  @FreedomToons  | http://twistedplots.com/ Mary  @PopCultureCrisis  (everywhere) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Scott Horton @scotthortonshow (X) Scott Horton is an American radio host, author, and libertarian activist who serves as the director of the Libertarian Institute and hosts The Scott Horton Show, focusing on foreign policy, anti-war advocacy, and critiques of U.S. military interventions.     

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Starting point is 00:00:06 The Trump DOJ has officially opened a probe into Eric Swalwell, you know, that Democrat from California, over mortgage fraud. I can't believe it. Eric, no one is above the law. And he's claiming that he's being targeted for political reasons. Could it be that you just claimed a primary residence where it wasn't your primary residence to get favorable mortgage terms, perhaps, like so many others have done? Well, no one's above the law. So Swalwell, well, he's going to, he's in trouble. He's in trouble. We'll see how this plays out. I do think a lot of these cases are a bit of a stretch, but where this is the game. Everybody's been pointing this out, not everybody, but many on the right have been saying,
Starting point is 00:00:45 listen, normally these mortgage fraud cases, and they'd probably just say something like, we get it. We're not going to pursue these, they're light. But considering they went after Trump for literally everything and even arrested as lawyers, they're like, okay, letter of the law, it's going to be, and it's going to be to you. So we'll see what happens. Then we've got, of course, the Epstein smear, where Democrats put out an email, where they redacted the name of a victim, make it seem like Trump was doing something untoward.
Starting point is 00:01:10 And then when Republicans unredacted the email, the victim is Virginia Joufrey, who already said Trump did nothing wrong. So once again, more lies. But interestingly, it appears in these emails, at least for some of these posts, that journalist Michael Wolfe was actually colluding with Epstein for favorable coverage and benefits that Epstein could receive from Trump, which is really weird for them to put these emails out, which actually doesn't make Trump look bad at all. In fact, Epstein said that Trump's like one of the worst people he knows. And it's funny, I'm supposed to be upset about that. Listen, I want the Epstein files released for sure. I'm with Massey and Rokane on this one. But it's a weird play from Democrats.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Unfortunately, as you know, most of these people are going to march in lockstep and they're going to act outrage and pretend like they don't know what's going on. And then, of course, we'd talk about how the world nearly ended. I don't know if you guys were paying attention to the gigantic pink sky that was taking over most of the country in the past couple of days. the G4 coronal mass ejection geomagnetic storm or whatever. I talked with the space weather guy, Ben Davidson earlier, and he was like, we were close to being sent back to the Stone Age because the Earth magnetic sphere is weakening.
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Starting point is 00:05:28 Oh, well, I'm the editorial director of anti-war.com, and I am the director of the Libertarian Institute. I host the Scott Horton Show. I've done 6,000 interviews since 2003 on almost all libertarian foreign policy stuff. And I have a new project, big deal, called the Scott Horton Academy of Foreign Policy and Freedom. And if you heard of Tom Woods, the great libertarian entrepreneur and scholar, he has the Liberty Classroom. And he built me my own Liberty Classroom. So it's me doing so far a 30-hour course on Middle East Affairs. And then I have a bunch of other great experts, the great James Beauvard, William Bupert and Ramsey Burrude.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And then we're adding more every day we have, or not every day, but often. We have a new one coming out is a professor, a scholar, a Lutheran religious scholar, debunking Christian Zionism. All right. I'm doing a whole course on that. So that's all at Scott Hortonacademy.com. And I hope this is true, Tim. I talk to my guy, but he's a little bit out of touch. but I'm trying to reach them.
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Starting point is 00:07:48 go over to twisted plots.com, but otherwise, I've got nothing but grab, attitude. Thank you for getting us funded. God bless all of you. I'm going to make you an awesome show. Right on. Mary's hand out. Hi everyone. My name is Mary Morgan and you can usually find me on Pop Culture Crisis here at Timcast. Now I'm just going to warn you. Phil over here is going to try to sell you on his gingerbread flavored coffee. But I want to be very clear. He's one of the crazy people who celebrates Christmas before Thanksgiving has even happened. The perfect beverage to keep you warm in this autumn season is
Starting point is 00:08:21 Mary's Ghostbend, which is now available at casprue.com. Directly under the bus, huh? Hello, everybody. My name is Philibonte. I'm the lead singer, the heavy metal band, all that remains on anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Ian, how you doing? Hey, I'm great. I was thinking, what should I say for my intro? I'm like, dude, just
Starting point is 00:08:37 watch these people, because you guys are all so fun to watch and interesting. It's awesome. And Scott, you are definitely the man. You didn't shout out your show with Daryl Cooper that you've been doing. Oh, yeah. See, I got too many things. I do a show with Darrell Cooper now, called Provoked. I've learned a lot. I've put probably 15 hours at least, something like that into it so far. I'm so glad to see you again, man. So let's get... It's named after my book. Provoked. Great stuff. Let's go deep. Gargantuan book. How long it takes you to write that? The last time I came here, I was under the impression, there was a spine. There was a spine. And I was going to make you a bet. I know, but it was gone by the time I got here.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Yeah. I'd seen the video. So I was going to make you a bet. If I could go front side grind to back side grind around the corner into Faky, then you'd have to put provoked in the background where people could see it. for a year. Then I got here on the spine was gone. You can drop in. I am not dropped in. 12 feet of vertical? Sorry. I skate vert, but I... Imagine if that's how Scott Horan... Oh, it's only 11.
Starting point is 00:09:31 No, actually, it's 7. I'll tell you, I have dropped in on... I think at least like 5 feet of vert. I've dropped in on a big extension on a very big vert ramp, but that's with like a 10-foot transition. That's too much. Nine-foot transition. To 9-foot transition with the 7th.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I'm not dropping in on your... All right, let's get to the news. I'm not a coward because if Jason Ellis wouldn't do it in full pads, then it is not reasonable. It's because there's nowhere to go. But hold on. Yeah, that's true. It's so thin.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And you'd have to roll in backside like immediately down there. But he could put the book. It was wider. He put the book behind him for a year and you can kill the man but not the idea. So it might end you, but you'd sell more copies. All right, all right. Here's the news, ladies and gentlemen. From Fox.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Trump DOJ opens mortgage fraud probe into Eric Swalwell. as congressman vows to keep fighting back. Uh-huh. The DOJ under Trump has opened a probe into Swalwell over alleged mortgage fraud. In response, Swalwell said he was not surprised to be targeted by Trump. Quote, is the most vocal critic of Donald Trump of the last decade and is the only person who still has a surviving lawsuit against him. The only thing I am surprised about is that it took him this long to come after me. Like James Comey, John Bolton, Adam Schiff, and Lisa Cook, Leticia James, and the dozens of more to come.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I refuse to live in fear in what was once the freest country in the world. What a dork. Of course, I will not end my lawsuit against him, and I will not stop speaking out against the president and speaking up for Californians. As Mark Twain said, patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it. Mr. President, do better, be better. He's such a joke. The probe, which was first reported by NBC, will be, will investigate allegations of millions of dollars in loans and refinancing, which were based on Swelwood declaring that his primary residence was in Washington, D.C., a person familiar with deferral, told the news organization. according to the report,
Starting point is 00:11:17 Director of the Federal Housing Agency, Bill Pulte, sent Attorney General Pam Bondi a letter on Wednesday accusing Swalwell of possibly making false or misleading statements on loan documents. Heaven's me! I can't believe Swalwell would do something so untoward. Well, I just want to point, and this is the first thing that went, like, what a door. Every time I hear a statement from this guy, I feel that way.
Starting point is 00:11:36 But I have been the biggest critic of Donald Trump. Come on, bro. Don't try to, like, put yourself up on that lefty throne to pander to your audience. You've been the biggest critic. And also, why are all of these people investigated for mortgage fraud? Why is this something that they're able to pull charges up against them? The market's gotten so bad that like, and these people have destroyed the economy so horribly that when like Jen Alpha and Zoomer crooked politicians come to office, like they won't even be able to investigate them for mortgage fraud because they're not even able to get one.
Starting point is 00:12:01 That's how I feel about the situation. He is in a privileged position to be investigated. Yeah. I mean, there are evidence for defaulting. Exactly. Like, guys, this is the worst Russia gate truth through in Congress or tie. with that other guy I hate. And he also from California,
Starting point is 00:12:17 the other horrible congressman, the worst Russian gate guys? Just real quick, people may be asking themselves, I don't know who this guy's. Who is he, Tim? He is this guy right here. The evidence is uncontradicted
Starting point is 00:12:29 that the president used taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help him cheat in election. And the complaint that I've heard from the evidence is uncontradicted that the president used taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help him cheat in election.
Starting point is 00:12:41 And the complaint that I've heard from the evidence. And he's speaking is crazy. They claimed it was a mug sliding across the table. Oh, yeah. But look at Swalwell. It's uncontradicted that the president used taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help him cheat in election. And the complaint that I've heard from the evidence.
Starting point is 00:13:01 He couldn't even hold it. He's doing the same thing out of both ends. Everybody farts. I got such a grudge against all the Russia gators. I don't care if they broke the law. I don't care if they broke the law, find something to persecute them for anyone who was involved in Rushgate, all of them. And it begins with, because everybody blames Hillary Clinton because she's the most evil person in the world. But the person who really started it was John Brennan.
Starting point is 00:13:25 And that was what came out in the documents, you know, that they finally started leaking out the secret addendum, the classified addendum to the Durham report and all that showed proved that it was Brennan. The head of the CIA started this at the end of 15. and at least as far as we know for a fact, Hillary's team didn't even get on board until February or March. So it was the CIA and the FBI that started it, and then the Democrats were like, oh, we can help make this worse. Unless she may have had a secret meeting with Brennan
Starting point is 00:13:53 that we don't know about or whatever. But as far as we know, Brennan and the CIA were the ones who started it. And nobody should ever be over that. That's no different than like Waco or line us into Iraq or shooting Jack Kennedy in the face in Dallas or whatever. that like they they all but shot
Starting point is 00:14:10 Trump in the face in Dallas with that Russia gate hoax and it was 100% lie and it was meant as they said themselves it was meant well if we can't do a coup and they didn't say coup but if we can't overthrow him through the 25th Amendment at least we can rein him in
Starting point is 00:14:25 by continuing to pretend to investigate him for another two years I mean imagine you get elected the president of the United States and then the CIA and the FBI just frame you for treason and just completely prevent you from exercise in your authority whatsoever like that. I hear you, but at this point, I'm, it's fairly, it's, we're fair, it's a fairly
Starting point is 00:14:44 demoralizing current state of events happening right now. True. For a variety of reasons. I carry these vendettists around, man. I have trouble. Trump, Trump coming out and being like, bring on the H-1Bs, bringing the Chinese national college students, it's just kind of like, oh, well, we're cooked, I guess, because that's, the, the economy is worse off than most people realize.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Gen Z is checking out the poll. are showing this, that they're not, they don't care anymore. They feel like even Trump won't do anything for them. And you know what? I don't disagree. Because when Trump goes on TV and says there's no talent here, their response is going to be like, okay, see you later. Trump just lost the midterms. We talked about that last night.
Starting point is 00:15:21 If kids aren't able to buy a house until they're 38 years old, that's the average age of someone getting their first house. 40 is it? And Black Rock's buying houses. You're going to see people that are homeless breaking into the houses owned by Blackrock and squatting or there will be a communist. That's where people are going socialists is because of this. This unfettered corporatism or corporatocracy.
Starting point is 00:15:39 It's inflationary money, man, is at the core of all of this stuff. They debase the currency, and then every other thing is trying to make up for that. Why don't we even have the massive immigration problem? We have the massive immigration problem because it's a conspiracy between, of course, the Democrats want all these new voters, but big business wants to try to ameliorate the upward pressure on wages. If you run a big company, you need your lower wage workers to be afraid. to ask for a raise. And there's upward pressure on all prices. But it's also that's how they, and then we have all the problems with the petro dollar. And then we got to do more police state
Starting point is 00:16:17 action against that and on and on. With the petro dollar, we're basically telling the rest of the world use our currency, it's good for something. The U.S. government is guaranteeing that if you have this currency, it can buy things for you. The problem is if there are no people in this country and the economy shrinks, the petro dollar is worthless and nobody's going to trade for them. So they say, flood the country with any and everybody so that China will find value in our dollars. And to your point, Scott, today, we were talking about this on PCC today. They made the last penny ever today. So they'll no longer be making pennies because it costs four cents to make a penny.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And that's specifically because of inflation. Did you know? Because a penny is now worth a tenth of a penny. Yeah. That's why. Did you guys know this? If you go to a bank with $100 and change it into a bunch of pennies, bring the pennies home and smelt them down.
Starting point is 00:17:07 You'll go to prison for 100 years. Exactly. Yes, you will. You will go to Jelfby, you do. But the fact that we have the Federal Reserve that is consistently saying we have to have some kind of inflation, right? As opposed to hard money, which you are, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:23 extremely well informed about. This kind of behavior by the government is incentivized. And so they're always going to be trying to manipulate interest rates. they're going to try to get people to borrow money, and all this does is drive down the value of everyone's dollars. And that's part of the reason why we have the stock market. Well, now we have an everything bubble,
Starting point is 00:17:45 but that's part of the reason why the stock market continuously hits a brand-new highs all the time because people that have cash don't want to hold on to cash. Right. And look, this is what Ian just said too. To the youth, they're told their whole life, this is capitalism. So what's the opposite of that? So then they start moving further left or they move further right toward now. nationalism away from free markets and property rights and what really provides prosperity. But it's the funny money.
Starting point is 00:18:11 It's George Washington on the dollar because it's the government forcing you to accept it. You can only pay your taxes in their currency. So they force us to use it and it's disrupting essentially all. You know what I hope? I hope that the G5 magnetic storm hits soon and just shut up. down all technology and then we can be farmers again. Bro, I just got my campaign-funded dog. I need to make this show.
Starting point is 00:18:41 There's a lot of good technology on the horizon. You need to buy chickens and get some arable land. You can either have chickens with their funny little faces. I was thinking on the way over it's like our job, well, particularly your job because you're so famous right now, to keep morale up of the world because technology is advancing so fast. I think a lot of the problems are going to get solved. Dude, AI, have you guys seen nanobanana?
Starting point is 00:19:01 Well, can we talk about the fact that the picture that you just, posted to me on Twitter as not. That's real. That's not AI. That's real. Scott kissed the wall. He got the call. Everywhere and he...
Starting point is 00:19:12 Oh, wait, wait. I could see in the replies, people were like, I knew it. I never trusted this guy. I should have made it that you answered the phone and then... Oh, yeah. So for those that don't get the reference,
Starting point is 00:19:22 I tweeted an AI video of Scott pulling out an Israeli flag. Because that's how crazy it is right now with AI, but nano banana two accidentally, apparently got leaked for a few hours. What was that? Google's new AI. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:33 For video and photo, which is so perfect, we're done. We are done. Oh, man. Like, done is an understatement. Really? It, like, people were posting a video of, like, Trump and Epstein playing in a jazz band. And someone posted a picture of a whiteboard with the beginning of an equation, and it said, solve the equation. And it was perfect.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Indistinguishable from a real photo, we are, we are cooked. I'm not quite as black-pilled on AI, because I think that once the novelty of it wears off, because it is still very new and people are learning how to, you know, have prompts make it do interesting things and stuff. I think that once it, once the novelty wears off, there's going to be a lot of people that are creatives that are going to use it as a tool. We made the same remarks in the music industry about, oh, synthesizers are going to kill live music. They're going to stop doing it, and DJs were going to kill live music. This is totally different. I was watching videos of unarmed black men being shot that was AI, and I could tell,
Starting point is 00:20:33 It was AI, but it looked so dang real. And all of the comments were like, I can't believe this is still happening. It got to the point now where people know that videos of black men being killed by police go viral. And so they're making fake ones. And with all the body camera footage that we have, it even says Axion with the date
Starting point is 00:20:51 and the cop pulls the gun on. Don't move, don't move. The gun, shoots and kills them. And I was like, holy crap. That's an AI video. And you can barely notice. And it's got tens of thousands of shares, tens of thousands of comments
Starting point is 00:21:05 and tens of thousands of likes and the comments I would say the overall majority at the top were just saying things like I can't believe it this is wrong a few people are like this is AI they're gonna have to make it a very serious crime to knowingly create and distribute false
Starting point is 00:21:19 first amendment you can't do it oh I mean look people fell for your your AI of me just now where you can tell my face looks all weird by the end of real Scott but like some people some people who really bought it and um so look I'm I'm a bit torn I think I definitely agree with your point about that you're never going to be able to believe video or audio again at least
Starting point is 00:21:37 very soon here we're like really at that point but like as far as the whole thing about them taking over kind of everything and like the full black pill on it I'm not really there because it seems totally incompetent to me which maybe that's just what I use it for but AI is virtually always wrong I got to argue with it about anything when I'm trying to like actually make some progress but I'm you know I know a lot of the video of you a lot of different tasks someone took the video of you and changed you burning these Israeli flag. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:22:04 Why did you do that, Scott? Yeah. Information. I was trying to sell. Well, that means you're getting deported, right? Prickler in here and it didn't work. Now you're getting deported because you burn the Israeli flag. Get out of it. I swear I was born here.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Let's jump to this next door. We've got the Epstein hoax from Politico. The latest Epstein files knock White House on its heels. It's fake. And, you know, let me just say, I feel like everybody's demoralized right now for a variety of reasons. This tired old playbook, guess what? So this story drops in the morning. Democrats publish emails from Epstein implicating Trump, blah, blah, blah. You've got this email right here where it's like, Epstein says, I want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is Trump. Victim spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned, police chief, etc. I'm 75% there. Victim redacted. And I actually got messages from from the press asking me,
Starting point is 00:22:58 like, what do you think the reaction is going to be on the right now that Trump has been implicated with victims? Well, it turns out the victim mentioned was Virginia. That's Virginia Joufrey. And why did Democrats redact the name? Because Virginia Joufrey already testified in multiple instances that Donald Trump never did anything. I'm sorry, under oath. She said that. Under oath. And she said, I don't know if he did anything wrong. He just didn't do it anywhere near me. I never saw it happen. So if they put out the email and they did not redact the name, everyone, would have thrown in the garbage. But redacted in the name makes it seem like, oh, wow, I wonder who that is. What, what could Trump have done? It was another hoax from the Democrats. And I got to say,
Starting point is 00:23:38 I am tired of the lies. They offer nothing politically. But at the same time, I have all these, these, I see these these Democrats coming out being like, fell forward again award. And I'm like, you guys are so retarded. You don't understand. My choice was Donald Trump's promises and you sociopaths who lie all the time. Of course I'm going to go for Trump because he may be lying, but at least he's offering anything. Well, the worst thing for us is that Trump came out recently and said, we don't have talented workers here. We need H-1Bs and 600,000 visas for Chinese students. And I just put my feet up like, this is it. This is what we get from Democrats. Nothing. And Donald Trump says, we're going to do what Democrats planned on doing in the first
Starting point is 00:24:20 place. I thought he made a big mistake when he said that we have no talent. I feel like he Well, he didn't clarify, but I agree he shouldn't have said it. And I discerated. I agree with this position on the H-1B. I said this last night, too, he's got this disagreeable personality where if you get emotional and go right at him, we'll just be like, no, no, no, no, you're wrong, exactly opposite. And later he's like, eh, that's not, that's not what I meant. He's not saying that there, what I think he meant is that there is greater talent out in the world than just in America. And some of the best and brightest minds in the world may be in other countries.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Not that the people in America have no talent, but the way it came out sounded very demoralizing. It could really make it. It's not, it's not just that. It's like, right now, we have the, Democrats winning these elections and the response on the GOP is, but they're blue states. Well, Virginia is not. I mean, it's blue-ish. Leans blue, but it does, there's a great opportunity to win. And it was closing in New Jersey. Now, I do think it's interesting. A lot of people are claiming Democrats cheated. Democrats are claiming Trump cheated in 2024. I kid you not go look at their subredits.
Starting point is 00:25:18 They're hilarious. But New Jersey saw 500,000 new voters for the first time in decades, for real. Okay. If you look at the... Pretty high number. Yeah. If you look at the voter turnout for every governor, a gubernatorial election, you know, going back, you know, 10 elections, you'll see that they average like, it's like 2.something million.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Is there a reason they were doing it in an off odd year here? They always do. Okay. That's their cycle. And so this year, the winner, who normally gets 1.3, got 1.7. And everybody's arguing saying Republicans didn't turn out. It's not true. If you look at the voter turnout for Jack Chitorelli, he actually surpassed the previous winner's total vote tally, just that Democrats had 500,000 new voters somehow.
Starting point is 00:26:04 So call it cheating, call it whatever you want, but it's demoralizing. Then Trump is saying things like this. And in the meantime, what's the big debate right now in the United States? Is it border policy? Is it affordability? Is it air travel crisis, government shutdown? No, it's Tucker Carlson having an interview with the wrong person and Candice Owens talking about the latest conspiracy on Charlie Kirk's assassination.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And Trump trying to demand that the Israeli president pardoned the prime minister. I mean, and that's worthless waste of time for me. And I wonder why he's not offering up any other advocacy for other nations whose world leaders may need pardons. But I'm sitting here looking at all of this. And I'm just like, none of it says anything to Gen Z who are upset right now and abandoning MAGA. And we're seeing that in the polls.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And then at the highest levels, it's just basically, the pro-Israel, what was it the Republican convention that recently happened? Oh, the Republican Jewish Coalition. Is that what it's called? Where they're basically just holding up signs saying Tucker's not MAGA, because Tucker interviewed Nick Fuentes, which, who cares? It was one interview. And now you've got all of this drama. And I'm sitting there being like, is this what everyone cares about? Yeah. Is this it? Because I got to be honest, I was wondering why food is expensive. or gas, why people are struggling right now.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Inflation is bad. I think the economy is way worse than people realize or want to admit. And Trump is acting like it's not because he has to. Otherwise. Because he doesn't know. I think so. And I think the reality is a bungalow in this area, a bungalow, $500,000. Three years ago was $250, 50 year mortgages being offered up.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I'm just sitting here being like, okay, maybe it's time. We just turn everything off, buy some chickens, get some good arable land, and wait for the G5 Magneto Storm to wipe us out. We'll just build cool. I got to talk about inflationary money more again, because first of all, like, this is at the core of the frustration that you're talking about these young Gen Z people who they can't get a decent job. They went to college, they're saddle with all the student loan debt from the government jacked up prices and all that. And just simply the cost of being burritos is through the roof, dude. You can't eat. There's a thing.
Starting point is 00:28:18 This is one of the things, Tucker. I think Tucker said this in his monologue last night. And I had read this before about Gen Z kids are buying food on credit. They're ordering a pizza. Buy now, pay later. That's right. With interest. Lana, it's called.
Starting point is 00:28:33 So just eat. Yeah. That is completely out of control. When's the last time you went to five guys? I'm actually not a five guys guy. But you go anywhere, prices are just insane. A couple burgers and a fry from five guys is like, $45.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Yeah, yeah. What insane. And so look, so people, it's sort of like with Biden being too old for this, you don't have to know anything about anything to just say, Jesus, I can't afford these prices. What is going on here?
Starting point is 00:29:01 To your point. One more thing about this is see, these are the good times. You're frustrated. Everything is expensive. This is because this is the inflationary bubble. If you're an asset owner, like we were talking about, you're making money now.
Starting point is 00:29:13 This is the good time when things are getting less and less affordable for everybody on the lower end. Right? The only solution to this inflationary crisis is a horrible crash in a recession and the calling in of all those bad loans, massive bankruptcies, massive layoffs, and total destruction of our economy like we had happened in 2008. I got some questions for you guys. That's the solution to the crisis that you're describing now. And that's because of inflationary money and the boom bus cycle. I got a question for you guys. Okay. I'm going to list you the food that I ordered today and I want you to guess how much it costs. So I got four pizzas, extra large, by the way, pepperoni, bacon cheese fries, 12 wings, garlic bread, and an order of ravioli.
Starting point is 00:29:57 130. 250. Definitely at least 100. I'm saying 250. $250? $1 million. $1 million. $1 million.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Okay, once again, four extra large pizzas. 22 each. That's my guess. French fries, 12 wings, garlic bread, and an order of ravioli. $150 maybe? $150, maybe. $250? I got it. I nailed it. Man, you did. I was like, this guy's exaggerating. And I was the one just ranting about high prices.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Is there a fear of hyperinflation? Is that literal? Like, could it go like, burgers a million bucks? Yes. Yeah, of course you could. And that's going to be very ugly. It's not going to be like, oh, burgers a million dollars better withdraw my asses. It's like, that's when people are going to get hurt real bad. When they burn money for fire. And I'm not advocating for that. This is what they call the crack up boom. This is what Mesa is called the crack up boom. When And as Ron Paul has worn, remember Ron Paul? He's on my shirt under this. The guy who was right about everything.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Now, he doesn't put it an exact time on this, but he says what happens is eventually people lose faith in the currency. And by people, because you're saying it is the global reserve currency, Petro dollar, everything. When the people lose faith in the currency, that means the world loses faith in it. It means dollars all come floating home from all the vaults where they're sitting around the world. and yes, we're chopping dollars off, zeros off of our dollars like Argentina, burning the stuff for, you know. Remember the you've probably seen from Weimar, Germany, where the ladies got a wheelbarrow for a dollars to go buy some bread.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I'm glad you brought Weimar up because I... That's the danger. It truly is the danger. In the last... You're right. I apologize. You always get your W's and V's wrong. So here's the thing about Weimar. And this is this crazy left-wing argument, because I remember under Biden, they were saying, well, you know, like, I'd rather deal with inflation than get fascism.
Starting point is 00:31:48 It's like, you idiot, inflation is how you get fascism. That's right. People react to it. You keep letting that happen. People snap. And when it does get to the point where a burger costs $100, $200, $500 and someone can't feed their family, you will not believe how ugly it will get. And to your point, Seamus, like the fact that the young generation now, like older Gen Alpha, young Gen Z, right? even the people on the right, they're not free market right.
Starting point is 00:32:16 They're socialist right. Well, then the government needs to step in. And they get more and more populist, more and more interventionist because of the failures of intervention. Exactly. Not of freedom. Exactly. The future that we're looking at, and we've talked about it a little bit here, it's either socialism or Zoomerwaffe. Right?
Starting point is 00:32:32 Like you're talking about nationalists on the right that believe the government has to step in and do these things because they don't have any access to actual property. They don't own anything. So they look to the government, and that's how you end up with some kind of national socialist government. And let's just say they have no buy-in to the capitalist system. Now, let's say we're a couple of cycles away from it getting that bad. But even in the meantime, financial stress means broken marriages.
Starting point is 00:33:01 They mean failed businesses. They mean children in foster care. They mean society disrupted. And at the Federal Reserve, they keep all these. charts, they know when they turn the screw this way or they turn the screw this way, that they are destroying people's lives. And they consider, there's a book like the Washington Post version of Gretchen, of Jekyll Island, is called Secrets of the Temple by Greeter. And he talks about how it's like their highest virtue that they will let the people suffer in order to do the right
Starting point is 00:33:29 thing. I got to explain this to these weak men out there that in hard times can't keep a marriage together. I went to Stonewall Jackson's house. It's in Winchester. You can go there. And he's a tour. It's fantastic. And in the kitchen, there was a musket above where they cooked in a little fireplace or whatever. And that musket was for? Did it say if I get divorced shooting? No. You take it off the wall, open the back door, and point it until you see a critter, and you shoot the critter, and you throw it in the stew, and that's dinner. So that's how we used to live. Yep. So if you're worried because you can't get your ground beef patties from the supermarket. The reality is, it is unfortunate. We shouldn't have to live worse than the generation previous to us, and our economy was mismanaged. But my point
Starting point is 00:34:15 simply here is, maybe we're going to have to go back to the way things used to be. But the thing is, that process is going to be ugly. Like, if you have a hampshire that's been indoors all its life and you just let it out, you know, into the wild, it's going to be dead in an hour, right? Oh, bro, bro. People can't just return to that. If the economy, if the economy collapses, this is not a joke. Deer go extinct. This is not a joke. This actual estimate is that if the economy were to grind to a direct stop
Starting point is 00:34:43 and in major cities, there's no food, first, within three days you get cannibalism in cities because some people will flee, traffic will be jammed up, there's no fuel, people will be riding bikes until the tires burst. Others, staying in the cities, will have no water and no food if the perishables expire, and they'll start killing and eating each other.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Within a few days, it can get to that point. Not because of food, there's canned goods everywhere. They'll get consumed rapidly, but then people who have no water. But in the suburbs, into the rural areas just outside, you are going to have millions of people killing any and every deer they see. Pigeons, squirrels, rabbits, they all get wiped out. Not a joke. All these animals are extinct in these areas.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Wait, what's the first cause of this? Why? Of just like, like, the collapse of the dollar? So let's just put it this way. If the G5 storm hit and knocked out the grid and our economy grinded to a halt. So you're talking no electricity. No electricity.
Starting point is 00:35:43 No food coming in, no transport, no fuel. Let's just say like all modern infrastructure is gone. Within a few days, people are dehydrating. The rivers run sour with human waste and garbage. It gets real bad. And then imagine just in the suburbs, every rabbit is gone. Every pigeon is gone.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Every sparrow is gone. Squirrels are gone. Cats, house pets. Cats, house pets all wiped out. And deer go extinct. Tell me more about these solar storms. You should. The Federal Reserve has a solar storm button at the other end of it.
Starting point is 00:36:15 There's a book called One Minute After, and it talks about what an EMP would do and basically what the breakdown of society that happens if you basically turn off the electricity. I mean, the death toll, not just of wild animals, would be. I'm very dubious about those things. The sun could do it, though. Let me pull the story. Yeah. Let me pull the story. All right, guys.
Starting point is 00:36:35 With no election. How about we pull the story up from Fox Weather? Northern lights dazzle across lower 48 during G4 geomagnetic storm, the strongest solar flare of 2025. They're ranked from G1 to G5. Let me play a little bit of this for you guys. If it loads. Dorofest here on Fox Weather at night.
Starting point is 00:36:55 This is a picture that we just had sent into us via the QR code that you see on your screen. Thanks a lot. Tina Peterson. Urbandale, Iowa. Goodness, that is something else, isn't it? Wow. You got the pinks, you've got the reds, you got the purples, you got some greens in there, too. Here's another one, Anaconda, Anaconda, Montana. I like it. Cameron Bright. Oh, yeah, Cameron Bright is the name. That was from Montana. My bad on that. Trenton, Texas. How about that? Texas. Yeah, so you can see on some of these pictures, there's like a slight edit here or there. You know, a lot of people will try some of the long
Starting point is 00:37:26 exposure. Sometimes it's not perfectly visible with the naked eye. But I think it's central Texas. I was talking with Ben Davidson. He's a space weather guy. His Twitter handle is, let me make sure I get it right, sun weather. I can't see it right now because it's Sun Weatherman. At Sun Weatherman. And he made an interesting point. He said,
Starting point is 00:37:44 there have been 10 instances where we were able to see the Aurora in the lower 48 in the past 100 years. Five of those instances were in the last two years. So I don't know how many of you saw the pink sky being posted across
Starting point is 00:38:01 the border next from central Texas of all places where they could see it on the horizon. Now, you mentioned the weakening of the magnetic field. So the point is this was a massive storm so powerful that the northern lights stretched way down to northern Texas. Some people posted photos from Florida of them being able to see this. And what Ben has argued is that the magnetosphere has been weakening. That's our shield against these storms. He actually posted the other night that this is on the 11th.
Starting point is 00:38:31 If the storm did not abate and if it kept it up for about 10 minutes longer, we'd be in the Stone Age. But fortunately, it did recede and weaken. Ten minutes longer and the field would have collapsed or what? Well, I mean, maybe he's wrong, whatever. But his point was he said, if this doesn't end, the world ends tonight. He said that on the 11th. Maybe he's just being sensational, but at least I will stress this. When in your lifetimes, do you recall the entire sky turning pink stretching all the way down to Texas?
Starting point is 00:38:59 So maybe he's wrong. wow, look at this, but I'll tell you one thing. Billionaires are building underground bunkers in New Zealand and in Montana. They're building mountain bunkers. They recently announced a few years ago. They're renovating Mount Weather. The question is, for what reason are the wealthiest individuals preparing to go underground? Honest question.
Starting point is 00:39:18 They're not having to face their God. Maybe, but they certainly are preparing for something. And Ben Davidson's argument is we could be looking at. the big one. A polar shift, which weakens the magnetosphere, and then we get blasted by solar activity, and it fries the grid and sends us back to the Stone Age. You know, I read a thing that was saying that they thought that we're near stage for the flipping of the magnetic reversal of the poles and all that, so I could see, yeah, that would be bad timing for the sun to be extremely active during that. If you live in New York when this happens,
Starting point is 00:39:53 someone will eat your body. It's not even a joke. You will get eaten. You will be food. there's no one in New York City knows where their water comes from there was I can't remember where does the drinking water New York City come from hold on
Starting point is 00:40:06 nobody knows there's water that runs down a river that runs down into New York and it's actually elevated which supplies them with a decent amount
Starting point is 00:40:17 of natural water pressure but when the water stops flowing because these these palms and these systems shut down where will you drink water so what are these people going to do you are going to have, what you've got,
Starting point is 00:40:29 two million people who live on Manhattan Island fleeing in every direction. You are going, the argument that I've gave, what I told people is, I'm going to hear rustling and chicken screaming.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I'm going to run out to my chicken coop with my shotgun, and there's going to be a hipster guy with, you know, big bicycle handlebar mustache, and he's going to have his, his cuffs pulled it up. And he's going to be,
Starting point is 00:40:49 grabbing one of my chickens, and I'm going to be like, don't move. He's like, I'm so hungry. And he's going to try running off with one of my birds. Because these people are going to flee the city's
Starting point is 00:40:57 Now, the people who stay, because they don't know where to go, or they got young kids, people are going to be drinking blood. It's not an exaggeration. There was, I've said that there's this old televangelist who used to say this. If God doesn't smite America, he owes Sodom and Gomoran apology. We are just getting to that point here. I'm sorry. It's factory farming.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Is there anything in the Bible about pink skies? Well, it's actually interesting because I know this is not in the Bible, But in Fatima, there is a, or in the revelations of Fatima, there's some discussion about signs in the sky, but that's usually related to the Second World War, because there was an Aurora. There was like an unusually low aurora in the sky right at the very beginning of the Second World War. I think we're experiencing what's called the Xanabakov effect. You could pull up a video of it, Tim.
Starting point is 00:41:49 There's like a sign in the sky in Revelation, but it's not described this way. When a magnet rotates in space, it flips occasionally, and then it continues to rotate and then it flips again and keeps it's called the Xanibakov effect. You can pull up a video of it. It's basically because we're not, there's no flat lines. You know, there's no straight lines in reality. We're always bending and tilting in magnets. When they start to fall over, they spin really fast and they twist.
Starting point is 00:42:11 This is about to face it. And that's happened to earn many times. I tell from the rock. Okay, so I asked Rock, how many times in the past hundred years was the Aurora visible in Texas? And it said in the last 100 years between 1925 and 2025, six to eight times, the aurora has been visible in Texas. And then it says,
Starting point is 00:42:27 says the ongoing solar cycle has increased occurrences four to five events since 2023. That is, of the six to eight, four to five of them occurred in the last two years. How long is this sunspot cycle supposed to last before it calms down? It's peaking right this, it's peaking this year and the, the lowest point of the cycle will be 2030, I believe. Okay. So it's now going to start going down, meaning this This may be big. And then 2035, I think, would be the next big one. We got 10 years.
Starting point is 00:43:03 That's what Ben said. Yeah, let's make it happen. What do you mean? Let's make it happen, Shamus. Let's make it happen, Shamus. It is what AI is helping us build. Raffine Faraday cages. Yeah, sure, stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:15 First, we need our power lines underground. For sure. We make it harden all our circuits against poles. Underwater. You know. So, technically, the issue is that this would be, I'm not going to presume to know what degree of protection you're going to need, but the point is underground is not protected.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Underwater. Underwater is arguably not protected because it has to make contact land at some point. And the issue is that the currents are going to fry every system. So you're undersea cables may be working, but they're connected to nothing. If they're underground and underwater, if we could somehow like create layers of fluid on top of an underground power lines, that might be the only way to really contact. They have to come up, Ian, so we can use them. Directly up into that.
Starting point is 00:43:54 And that will fry the systems. Well, I mean, really we should all have our own power source, ultimately. We should all be true. Well, it's a matter of the quality of the circuits, right? I mean, the military circuits are made to spec to be resistant against H-bomb EMP pulses. So that may not be the same for all of our electricity infrastructure and all of that. Yeah, definitely not. But it could just be a matter of figuring out.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Well, if the sunspots are going to launch, if they're going to shoot this much radiation at us, then our circuits need to be made of this quality copper to withstand the pulse. or whatever. So let's just pause or click on them. What's the problem if our grid was wiped out, went back to the sun age? Water. Water's number one.
Starting point is 00:44:35 That makes no sense. Let me ask the question again. Oh, you're asking Scott. Ian, you are not listening. Why is it a problem if we lose all our technology? We don't know how to do anything without it. We're entirely dependent on it. All the suffering you already described.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Our collective knowledge. Well, we have very high-tech army. As individuals, we have very productive farming and that would end. That's what you're talking about. Who is our society? We are, but as individuals, our ability to cooperate is contingent upon this technology. Each of us is individuals. Society's made of people.
Starting point is 00:45:06 And our ability to cooperate is heavily contingent upon the technological infrastructure we've built up to enhance the cooperation. So, again, what would the problem be? We'd be incapable of communicating, trading, producing. Who is we? Individual human beings living in. in the society that you're describing would be incapable of carrying on in the way that we become dependent on
Starting point is 00:45:28 why is that a problem? Why is that a problem? You will die? Many people will, I hope not. I'm not dying. A lot of people would. You were just describing what would happen. Indeed, my point is the argument,
Starting point is 00:45:38 unfortunately, comes to a point where there will be a logical conclusion, it would be a good thing. For every, oh no, I agree, it could be if it's God's will. Do you think the Fudd was a good thing? Well, exactly, it was God's will. Yeah, I give what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And I thought, I thought you might be going there. I was getting you there. No, no, I know. What is this? We need to protect our son. If society got to the point where there was wanton, like, child sacrifice, mutilation, degeneracy, drug abuse, just sin, gambling, vice, casinos popping up everywhere, borders collapsing, war in the Middle East.
Starting point is 00:46:18 America resembles that remark. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. My point is, they make him a point where someone says, maybe it's time to build the boat. I don't agree. Well, we have microcosmic examples of this all the time. I'm saying it's a point at which people would say it is, it is, it's the flood.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Is there not an element of just escapist fantasy involved in this, not only what we're talking about, but also Gen Z's pathological obsession with the idea that we're going to face climate collapse within our lifetimes, or at least within Gen Z's lifetime, like they fantasize about living in a world where they have to surrender to circumstances that are too overwhelming for them. Yeah, but those people would starve to death. I mean, so what?
Starting point is 00:47:06 We're all just supposed to start a homestead? Like, that's not a viable plan for most people. That's too bad for most people. Most people don't make it. Life was never fair, and only in the last hundred years did people think they could live off the government teat and not have to work.
Starting point is 00:47:23 There's that viral video, the 17-year-old, or I don't know, 17-year-old, the guy with $17,000 in his bank account, and he's like, why do I have to work? And it's like, bro, you would have not survived 200 years ago. Modern society. Or he would have been way cooler. You know what I mean? He would have built up his ability to do things.
Starting point is 00:47:38 The thing is, we get more and more productive all the time. And so, you need, for example, fewer and fewer farmers to feed bigger and bigger cities full of people. And you know, there's a famous economist back a couple hundred years ago named Malthus, who said there's,
Starting point is 00:47:54 were overpopulated. There's too many people to feed. He was a dirty dog. And then he was discredited because people realize that, yeah, no, you need more people to produce more, to feed more, and it works. And as long as it's, really, it's property and freedom and free exchange that
Starting point is 00:48:09 allow for society to create the things that we need for each other to prosper. So I think as bad as things are right now, as bad as you can imagine them getting, there's always ways to move positively forward in rather than praying for the asteroid or the H-bomb to come.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I'm going to throw it back to Seamus, who said, if God does not smite the United States. It didn't come from me originally, but that's hilarious. And that's why I brought up this point that there is a logical point by which things could get so bad. People would, like, I know the giant meteor of death is a meme. It's a joke. Like, we don't really want to get wiped out. There is a point by which people would be like, please send the meteor of death.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Not the meteor. The EMP is a better example. example because it resets everybody to baseline. And it's basically like the hunger games, good luck you might win, probably not. The meteor is, you're dead. Goodbye. Serge and I. I'm with Musk on this. Everybody gets their own millennium falcon, colonize the galaxy. Sure. Good luck. Surge and I were talking about this the other day, but you have these different environmental adaptations, people develop over time that gave them a better ability to survive. But now with the processed foods, it's actually like bad for you. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:49:23 dude, 300 years ago I would have dominated your village, but now I get rashes from bread. It's like, it just completely inverts and subverts. I think when you see morbidly obese people on SNAP benefits, I'm like, that's a really, really bad thing for a functioning society. There's that viral video of the woman who just won in Seattle, the Kami, and she was like, no, what did you say? No longer will food be only for those who can afford it? and it's like... When has it ever been that way in the United States
Starting point is 00:49:54 and anyone's memory? Think about the math of this... It's deficit economics that we will constantly take from those who produce and give to those who don't ultimately result in
Starting point is 00:50:07 you run out of money in your bank account. That's communism. It doesn't work. So we are headed to that point whether we want it to or not. Whether it's going to be a giant G5 magnetic storm
Starting point is 00:50:17 which wipes out the grid or productivity just halts because communist governments are rising up and stealing everyone's resources. We are getting to the point where you're going to really wish you were homesteading. Hey, all ready, they downgraded American debt. We're at $38 trillion.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Somebody got so many people in this room. Somebody pull up the chart that shows the federal spending. They spend more now in the budget, more on interest on the debt than for the military, for Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security. It's the number one thing. It's the fourth biggest.
Starting point is 00:50:49 It's the fourth biggest. It hasn't been It hasn't been beaten Medicare or Medicaid and Social Security yet. No? But it has beat the military. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm thinking, I saw a line graph that it's coming. It's coming. It's very close.
Starting point is 00:51:00 But see, this is to me is almost the worst outrage when, where does it show the interest on the debt? Top left. Oh, the interest? The interest payments? Yeah, where's that at? Right. U.S. total interest paid is at $5.6 trillion. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Does it say like the yearly interest on the debt? This is the debt clock. Interest on debt net is $968 billion. Yeah. So that's equivalent to the Pentagon. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:30 So think about it like this. That's insane. And this is just to me. Our debt to GDP ratio is $121. Yep. So think of all the payroll taxes that you pay and that you have paid your whole life, everything that you put into this.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Like not only did that money not go to help some little old lady in the hospital or even go to kill a Palestinian. It just went to pay the interest on the debt to the central bank of South Korea. Oh, whoa. Hold on. My tax dollars are paying off debt instead of killing Palestinian kids. This is an outrage. Exactly. It's going simply to nothing.
Starting point is 00:52:02 But at least it's not helping old ladies, Tim. This whole conversation, so much of this conversation has been how people are absolutely desperate. They're unaffordability of everything. They can't buy a house. They can't buy food. People are absolutely desperate. They're turning to socialist and hard nationalist politics. and all of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:20 And then their payroll tax, if they have a job at all, is going to nothing, to nothing. I mean, that to me is like the national government just being at war with the American people. That interest on the debt compares at all with any of the transfer programs or the cost of the American world empire just to pay interest.
Starting point is 00:52:41 And who holds those bonds? Foreign central governments, central banks, use those American securities as goldbacks in there. It doesn't matter that you could possibly come up with. It doesn't matter if it's a solar storm or a flood or social disorder.
Starting point is 00:53:00 This economic system is about to implode and nothing will stop it. Reducing costs could slow it down. It's either going to be I don't believe that's correct. It's either this exposed. We go to crypto and there's going to be a totalitarian system that comes in and saves the day
Starting point is 00:53:14 and people become part of this communistic machine or we reduce costs by reducing fuel by creating hydrogen. Incorrect. From petroleum to hydrogen system. Ian. That's not going to fix me. Ian. Those are the two things I see.
Starting point is 00:53:24 There's one thing that's wrong with your assessment. There's only 40 million gen alpha. Yeah. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. No system you can implement is going to change that fact. Cheaper.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Economics are rooted in the amount of people that can exist to sustain a system. Now, by all means, people say, don't worry, we'll automate those jobs. You can't automate customers. So you don't need to hire a robot to run your Taco Bell if no one's buying tacos. You don't need money. Money's a construct. Money is a universal trade medium to exchange labor between people. Right now it is.
Starting point is 00:53:56 If there's no people, there's no economy. So nothing you're proposing will change what is happening. There's 40 million, Alpha. There are people and people can have six kids. So if you have 80 million people who are mid to high level and older, and they need 80 million entry level workers, but they only get 40 million, what happens? H-1Bs. Well, that's not going to supplies with 40 million workers.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Democrats clearly tried, but once again, you can't replace middle managers, assistant managers with Honduran farmers or cartel drug traffickers. Our system's pretty bloated. I don't think we need all the companies that exist. Okay, agreed. Now, let's pause here. And once again, we have a financial system built upon the needs of 330 million people, and we are going to have 300 million in 20 years.
Starting point is 00:54:45 It doesn't matter. The error in your thinking is the system's not built on the needs of the 330. The system's built by the Federal Reserve and the central bankers that are fucking our country up to. You got to stop because you're wrong. Okay. The system that we have for all of its faults needs to support the food and water distribution of 336 million people. If at any point water becomes more expensive than the laborer person can produce, the system collapses,
Starting point is 00:55:11 and people start massacring each other. Water's number one. Water's number one. If the system cannot sustain that water. Fortunately, it's very easy and it can. In fact, it can with food, too. The problem isn't our access to food and water. It's there are no people anymore. So this means you're not going to go to a 50-year-old man and say, you have to work at McDonald's now. He's going to say no. And then the other problem is there's a franchise that owns 10 Taco Bells. And he's going to say, it's okay. We don't need 18-year-olds anymore. We have optimists. The problem, your Taco Bell. employed by Optimus only gets one or two customers per day. So then they say there's no point in having Taco Bell and it shuts down. The economy will implode if no matter what unless we get 40 million more people. Yeah people start having a bunch of kids. It's no... I just went to college. I just went to college and interviews young people. It's too late. It's more time with young people. Okay, it's too late to have the kids.
Starting point is 00:56:05 No, what are you talking about it's never too late? It's too late to have the kids Ian because Generation Alpha is already at 15 to 16 years old. Why are you still here? What's the point if there's no hope. No hope for what? There's no hope for this system. He's not saying there's no hope for the world. I said the system is going to collapse. Nothing you can do will stop it. Why would you still be here then? What are talking? What's the point? There's no hope, Tim. Okay, Ian, you are consistently jumping the gun and you're like in your own mind off in some parallel reality. There's no kid, there's no people right after you said there's 40 million gen alpha. So you use some weird
Starting point is 00:56:37 hyperbole. No. Gen Alpha is literally 42 million. That's a statistical fact. That's plenty of people. That's a lot. But you need 80 million per generation to sustain. Okay. Okay, Ian, if you have a child today, how many years until they're 18? 18 years. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:56:51 So how will having kids today put workers in the workplace today? It won't. The system will collapse. What workers are you looking to make right now? We need to repeal child labor laws is what we're saying. We do not have enough 18-year-olds to enter the workforce to provide low-skill labor and to be the customer basis for the existing expansive infrastructure for a fractional reserve banking system
Starting point is 00:57:15 that survives off of exponential growth through debt. The system will collapse, period. Probably will end up, if not collapsing. Buy more guns. If not collapse. And ammunition, because that'll be the new currency. That's right.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Bottle caps. Bottle caps. The point is this. The Ponzi scheme that was built in 1913 and in the years following it, requires an ever-growing population that is impossible. The extraction of our wealth, Scott knows this, to fund wars, overseas, requires that you keep adding more people to the system
Starting point is 00:57:54 because you're racking up debt and then shoveling more labor in it to produce more tax revenue to mask that you've extracted a labor from the system without exchanging anything for it. Here's a question for Scott about it. The end result is we don't have enough people and the system explodes. Well, is part of that needing more people, needing more people, also to send them to die. Why do they send all these people to die in wars?
Starting point is 00:58:15 Is that intentionally to shave off the population? I mean, the overall casualties are in the, you know, thousands. I mean, we, we, there's 7,000 American GIs died in Iraq and Afghanistan combined. Okay, that's not, we, Indians. 30,000 suicides, but in statistically compared to the population of the country, that's not going to hurt your overall. Okay, here's not, let me explain it. Ten people are sitting around and they each,
Starting point is 00:58:42 exchange an apple with each other. Or a copper coin. And they all do it. Let's simplify to two people. You and I, Ian, I grow wheat. You turn it into bread. You give me bread. I give you more wheat. You take a little bit of the extra bread for yourself. I take the bread to eat it and grow the wheat and give it to you. That's our economy. Eventually, we add multiple layers to this. Now there's a guy who does the milling. And we say, well, hold on. How do we keep track of this? Money. So I say, I'll give you this coin and you trade it with him so that proves you did the work. He'll trade it with me. proves I did the work, and then we can simplify the exchange so we can all keep eating. Along comes Scott, the fractional reserve banking system, and he says, let me be in charge
Starting point is 00:59:21 of the money, trust me. Then instead of doing any work, he just makes another coin. And then goes to me and takes my wheat from me. Then you come and say, where's the wheat? I'll say, I sold it. What to who? How? No one did any labor. He sold it off to China. Now we're all like, we have no wheat, we have no trade anymore. He disrupted our economy. Where's the revolution against the central banking system? It's coming. with Zuma Woffin and the commies. Can we do it in a less drastic? No. The reality is, and look, let me be clear
Starting point is 00:59:47 for young people watching this. The communists and the far right, they don't know anything about central banking. It's the libertarians, the Austrian school economists, Ludwig Gonses and Murray Rothbard, the guys at the Mises Institute and Libertarian Institute and related organizations. George Mason University has some good people.
Starting point is 01:00:05 They're the ones who understand hard money and what real capitalism is about. And it's such a lie. And I'm really, I think it's one of the most dangerous things going on in the country right now, is that all young people are told, this is capitalism, this capitalism, it's late stage capitalism, blah, blah. Well, then what's the opposite of that? They think it must be socialism. I guess if this is private property, then I guess we want the government to own everything,
Starting point is 01:00:32 which is the most idiotic, gotting thing in the world. But to them, that's the binary choice that they believe they're making. in any crisis, reason will be the first casualty. So when this system, now, when this system breaks down and the libertarians go to the right and the left and say, guys, we can solve this economic issue in a matter of five to ten years if we do this, the left screams off with his head and the right screams... Go back to Reddit. Well, no, the right screams like build our communities and isolate and get away from these guys.
Starting point is 01:01:05 So you'll offer the solution. The people in the right are going to be like, we've heard enough for. from the politicians, we're going to go take care of ourselves, your system be damned. The left is going to say chop his head off. So there's not going to be a reason to debate. They're going to say, I'm hungry and I don't care. And what we're seeing right now is the macro consequences of economic failure in New York and Seattle.
Starting point is 01:01:26 For example, Ian, what do you think would happen if there are two houses in the middle of nowhere? There's a man and a woman who lives in one house and they have a bunch of food. and there is a man and a woman with three children and the other house with no food and they're completely isolated by like, I don't know, an earthquake happens and they can't escape. What do you think happens? They're near each other, but no one else can get stuck?
Starting point is 01:01:50 Well, they probably come together first and be like, are you okay? We don't have any food. I said one house has food. The same language. One house has food in a man and woman. One house has a man and a woman and three kids and no food. They would probably come together to seven people
Starting point is 01:02:04 and then they're like, hey, there's seven of us. Can we make this work? Yeah, there's no way to grow food. So the likely scenario is going to be. The man goes to their house and puts a bullet in the head of the man and the woman and says, I'm sorry, my children need to eat. Yeah, if you want to live in the jungle. I mean, I don't think there's seven people want that.
Starting point is 01:02:21 No, it's if you want to live. Because if you've got, like, you've got kids. As we have seen. If there's an earthquake, you don't go shoot your neighbor. What are you talking about? He's talking about a total systemic collapse, not like an earth. I literally said you're isolated by earthquake from anyone else. and there's two houses next to each other.
Starting point is 01:02:35 You don't go shoot your neighbor. We're not saying it's a good legal strategy. No, no, no, no. Ian's making a really great example of the folly of modern man. So isolated from the realities of history in the world. I know the demon. No, I'm talking about a millennia of history of this planet and what humans have done when their children starve,
Starting point is 01:02:54 and it's not for debate. Do you eat your wife? In all throughout history. Do you eat your wife when the food runs out? Welcome to the Donner Party. Well, but Ian, if it's between eating your wife and going after your neighbor, Tim, would you eat your wife if the food ran out? Ian, men die first.
Starting point is 01:03:07 God, you know, Ian, you have no idea what you're talking about, okay? Men die first because of high caloric needs and high muscle mass, and women have lower caloric needs. They're smaller and they have more fat. So the men die first and the women eat the men. Don't you know anything? That's literally true. In the Donner Party, the men all died because they had higher caloric needs and the women
Starting point is 01:03:26 are the ones who ate the body. However, several of the Donner Party refused to cannibalize and they starve to death themselves and then got eaten. The point is this. Every single example of human history, men will massacre to save their children. There's no question about it. Some will not, and they will be food and they will be. What's the saying?
Starting point is 01:03:46 To all the people who don't buy guns, thank you for collecting food for me after the apocalypse happens. Exactly. That's the argument. The point is this. That is the micro. That is history. You can look at any period in history and watch what happens when there is no food. People will kill and steal and take what they have.
Starting point is 01:04:03 to feed who they have to. And it's not always easy and sometimes everybody starves. That being said, why do they do it? Because a man will not watch his children starve to death. He won't do it. And he will do whatever he has to do to save them. So what happens in the macro? Right now in New York and Seattle, they're doing politically the same thing. The politician comes to them and says, you don't have what you want. You can't afford a house. You struggle to buy food and you're putting on credit cards. I will steal it from other people to give to you and they clap and cheer for it.
Starting point is 01:04:38 That only works for a short period of time. Already in New York, the middle income people are fleeing the city. I think the Exodus is already, it's like 40-something thousand people have estimated to have left already. And in the past few years, 600,000 people have left New York City. Mom Donnie is saying, I'm going to tax people to pay for you. And so those people said, later, what happens then? You can only function in a deficit system for so long. If they are extracting the resources from those who work and distributing it among those who don't,
Starting point is 01:05:10 eventually no one is producing anything and the system implodes. The same is true for as you describe it. A man can only steal so much food for his children before us to eat his own family or die. are we kind of conflating on one hand the question of the coming economic crash that's coming one way or the other
Starting point is 01:05:30 versus full communism and Mao Cetong starves everybody to death and we all eat each other and getting hit by a giant solar flare that knocks out all electricity because I'm not sure that we all got to eat each other
Starting point is 01:05:44 just after the next crash because we've had crashes and then we generate another level and have another crash What I'm saying is... I just want to like... What's the origin scenario here? So don't take it too far.
Starting point is 01:05:54 My point is, in history, in the micro, the individual level, humans have killed other people to take for their families. But what I'm saying is America is a very wealthy place. My point is right now in New York City, they're not murdering each other, they're voting to take money from the wealthy. It is the same function just in the macro-suit. And I agree with you that like if they keep going that way, it'll just be a ghost town and everyone will just move somewhere else where they can, you know, actually earn a living
Starting point is 01:06:20 and keep it and all that. So don't get me wrong, things can get bad. But I'm just saying, I mean, basically, even if you think about like the crash of 08, there's trillions of dollars were destroyed. It's just, it was an absolute catastrophe. And yet still, as Robert Higgs, the great economist instructing me at the time, you look at the United States of America, we got a lot of highways, we got a lot of factories, we got a lot of trucks, we got a lot of warehouses. We've got a lot of guys with strength and we, and skill, and we have, universities full of engineers. Our universities are going out of business.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Not rice. Rice is popping right now. The communist is half of them are but the engineering schools are closing now? I hadn't heard that. Yes, because there's no 18 year olds to go to them. So we've seen a wave of prominent centuries-old universities closing because there's no young people. Again, Jen Alpha
Starting point is 01:07:11 is, Ian, you went to a single university. Yeah, Rice. Yes, congratulations. The plural of anecdote is not data. It's young people at a university. I mean, you just said young people aren't going to university. The plural of anecdote is not data. But you just said there are no young people going to universities. It is a figure of speech, Ian.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Are you daft? If you want to use hyperbole, then I will too. It is not hyperbole. It's called a generality. When the young generation is half the size of the previous, universities who require 18-year-old entrance don't have them, they go out of business. If no one is around to buy lunch,
Starting point is 01:07:47 your grocery store goes out of business. There used to be a restaurant down the street, out of business. Why? Nobody was shopping there. So when you have 40 million gen Alpha, the incoming universities in the next two years will see a 50% shortfall in admissions. Who's going to pay their tuitions? They're going to start shutting down rapidly.
Starting point is 01:08:09 I think that's reasonable. And this is an important, I recommend you guys watch BirthGap documentary on YouTube. It's free. No society has ever recognized. covered from this level of a birth rate. Bro, I was... Not one time. I was raised Catholic.
Starting point is 01:08:24 I don't need a documentary to tell me that. Like, my whole childhood, my parents just sounding the alarm on this stuff. Like, listen, we're a contraceptive society. People aren't having children. Eventually, that has a fallout. Eventually, you can't run the economy. Eventually, nothing is able to be produced. Is there one particular cause that you focus on that seems to be the major cause of the
Starting point is 01:08:42 decline in birth rates and all that? So the interesting thing is... I'm just going to blame inflation again. Watch this documentary. It's actually not a decline in family size proportionate to families. People who have families have the same amount of kids proportionate to each other as they always have throughout all of history. Is that true? Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Wow. But what's happened is there's a massive explosion of childless women. But wasn't the average number of children and a family in the 60s significantly higher? It's the same. Watch the birth gap documentary. It's brilliant. They point out that families relative to each other, the birth rate is the exact same. same. It's just that in recent
Starting point is 01:09:18 history there's been an explosion of childless women. Feminism. But I, listen, and granted this, I'll give you this, this is anecdotal. I can only give you my own experience without having the data, but when you talk to old, like when I talk to my friends' parents, when I talk to my friend's parents, they'll all tell you, families with
Starting point is 01:09:34 six kids were very common at that time, and they're not anymore. My mom came from six, my dad came from five. Almost no one I grew up with had that been. I recommend you look at the data for... Yeah, yeah, I will. Family size in the 1960s was 3.67 and 2022, the average family size a decrease to 3.13.
Starting point is 01:09:50 And here's the problem with that data, which confused everybody, which is why I recommend watching birth gap. That's averaging single women along with families. Interesting. Or that's averaging like, yes. It is saying average family size. And so that's, that's, so.
Starting point is 01:10:06 But that's after they've paired up. So in this. That's not including. I recommend watching the documentary and going through their data and maybe it's wrong. Maybe this documentary is incorrect and I'm citing bad data. The point they made is we have seen an explosion of childless women, which has skewed the fertility rate lower than it used to be. But the percentage of people who had six, five, four, three, two kids, relative to each other has always stayed the same. So by all means, that could mean theoretically family sizes smaller.
Starting point is 01:10:33 It means if you have a family of two, they're going to make up 20 percent of families. A family of three is going to make up 40 percent. A family of five plus is going to make up six percent of families. The problem now is you have an explosion of childless women. There's no recovering from it because it creates an economic death spiral. So I've explained this before. Let me explain it again. If you have a, for Ian, I'll explain it. You have a town of 100 people and one grocery store.
Starting point is 01:10:58 That grocery store makes a 3% margin on all of its sales and says, things are going great. Everybody lives there, goes to old Ian's grocery store, and they have all of their needs met. One day, there's a oil is found. And this company comes in and says, we need to bring in 100 new people to get this oil out of the ground. So they build a bunch of houses, hire 100 people, and now the town has 200 people. Guess what? 200 people, that's too many people for one grocery store, so a second grocery store pops up on the other side of town. There's now two grocery stores, both with a 3% margin.
Starting point is 01:11:28 20 years later, the oil is dried up. The company leaves. Now, there's no job for half of the people who are working in the oil industry, so they leave as well. You now have 100 people and two grocery stores. The newest grocery store that opened for the oil company doesn't simply go, guess we'll go out of business. They say, we've got to take on debt to stay open because we're having hard times. What happens then is instead of the 100 people going back to the original grocery store, they split their business between the two of them. Both of them now dropped down below 100
Starting point is 01:11:59 percent. They're no longer at a 3% above board. They're now in the red and slowly piling on debt and going out of business. Two years of this, they can't pay back their lenders. They both got a business and now the original 100 people no longer have a grocery store. Or they merge in one by the other. But that's typically not what happens in these economies. Typically what happens is they compete with each other and one will take on debt and say, we're going to weather through this.
Starting point is 01:12:24 At the macro level, what we're seeing, you can't easily track why it is your sales are going down in this way. We've got four sweet frogs in 20 miles of us right now. How many do you really need? I can drive 20 minutes to go to any one of these places, but
Starting point is 01:12:39 they can sustain this amount of people. If half the people leave, the wind our Sweet Frog in the Martinsburg aren't going to decide they are going out of business. They're going to be like, screw you, you go out of business. I'm not shutting down. I'm going to lower my prices. I'm going to put water in my yogurt. I'm going to do whatever I can to attract people so I don't lose my living. This is what happens. Now, compare that same phenomenon to the birth rates. You need a certain requirement of people to sustain your grocery stores, your railroads, your roads, and you don't have them so everything starts breaking down. Now, people can't afford to
Starting point is 01:13:12 eat, they can't afford houses, nobody's building houses. Guess what? Can't afford a house, can't have a family, can't have kids. So what happens, you don't have kids. So what happens, the birth rate goes down even further and it's a death spiral until it resets. Well, consolidation, I think, is the likely outcome of those scenarios as you can make a corpse. You want to hear a fun story? I don't know if this is true or not, but the rumor was in Detroit, the police were going around, setting fire to houses, burning them down because there were so many neighborhoods that had collapsed and been abandoned. that they didn't, it was worse to have the rotting and collapsing infrastructure,
Starting point is 01:13:47 so they just lit them up and let them burn. I don't know if that's true, but those are the rumors we were hearing. I know they were definitely bulldozing entire neighborhoods in Detroit. Well, so there's also Gary, Indiana, there's also, Gary's crazy. They're, like, I went to Gary, and there's like a single house that's normal looking, surrounded by all collapsed abandoned homes. And the rumor we often heard from the people who lived outside of Detroit was a house would burn down, in the middle of the night for no reason,
Starting point is 01:14:14 and the people thought it was the cops doing it. It was the city intentionally saying we need to destroy as much of this as we can and let it crumble and collapse. I think consolidation makes sense in the situations where the grocery stores end up buying up, the richest guy buys all the grocery stores, but then how do you get out of that system
Starting point is 01:14:31 once that starts to take over? I'll put it like this. It is extremely easy to expand a system, is extremely difficult to retract the system. So the other example is Detroit's water, for instance. For those that don't know the story, I've told it a million times. I'll tell again for you, Ian. As time goes on and more people move to Detroit, it's a boom town with the auto industry.
Starting point is 01:14:49 They have to expand the plumbing system and the reclamation to be able to service more water to more people. Eventually, they have a million people, so they need a water system that can supply enough homes to a million people who live in these homes. Then people start leaving. But the cost of that infrastructure remains fixed because it's built to service a million people. It would be kind of like, Ian, if you and 10 of your buddies all decided to rent together a mansion with 10 bedrooms, and everyone said, we'll each put in a thousand bucks, and that'll cover the $10,000 rent. And then a month later, nine of your buddies leave, and it's just you, and now you've got to spend 10 grand to pay rent, and you can't. So what happens? It starts falling apart. It's getting dirty, and you leave. This is what happened in Detroit.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Because people were fleeing the city, the fixed water cost stayed, but the distribution of that cost among the people became more intensive for the individual. So if it was $100 a month for water, but half the population left, it jumped to $200, making it the most expensive water in the country. So in Flint, they said, why are we paying for expensive Detroit water when we have the Flint River? So they switched to the Flint River to lower their costs, but the river was acidic, disgusting, had legionnaires, it started to leach lead pipes and poison a bunch of people. This cannot be stopped. There's no circumstance in which people say, hey, our economy is retracting.
Starting point is 01:16:04 It's receding massively. So let's hire people to go and break down the water system to make it cheaper. That's an additional cost nobody wants to make. Well, it's a government program you're describing too, not business. Well, the idea being even whether it was private or otherwise, if you've got a massive water system that is too expensive, how about this? Your transmission busts on your car. You're like, it's more expensive to fix the transmission.
Starting point is 01:16:33 I'll just buy a used car. That's exactly the issue. People say, it's cheaper to leave than to deal with the problem. And anybody who runs a business knows this. It's really easy to hire somebody. It's really hard to fire somebody. Yeah, no, that's a very good point. Like, once someone's doing a specific job and they have a function, it is.
Starting point is 01:16:49 And that's, I'm sure you'd appreciate it as a libertarian, one of the big capitalist myths. Listen, obviously, when you have a big face of this corporation, it is common. It does happen. I'm not pretending it doesn't exist for an employer to abuse their employee because they can't go somewhere else. But the reality is, like, especially with small businesses, you don't want to. let people go. Like, A, you know them. You develop friendships with them. But B, people are important. They do important jobs. When someone becomes an essential part of your company infrastructure, it's hard. It is difficult to replace them. I want to pull up this post, my friends, from
Starting point is 01:17:17 callshy.com. Yo, check this out. Will Trump be impeached? Now, there was a big spike a moment ago for, this is actually, looks like a day ago. It was at 46% by the end of his term, or by the by the beginning of 28. This is in reaction to the H-1B thing? I think this is just everything in general. Right now, there is a 44% projection on the Kalshi prediction market that Trump will be impeached before January of 2028. 11% says before 27, 8% before 26. And I don't know why there's, oh, June of 26 or January of 26.
Starting point is 01:17:59 So it actually jumped up to 54, I believe, at one point. The, I don't know, they already swung at him twice and missed with the impeachment. I know, but I think it's just to slow it down. It'll derail anything that the administration tries to do. And that's good enough for the time. I think it's going to happen. It looks like, can you scroll down a little bit to see those numbers? Yeah, how it goes four, no, just back up four, eight, 11.
Starting point is 01:18:24 It seems like people are just throwing it out there. Like they have no idea. And they're like, yeah, just take the 44, the latest date that they have to offer. And we'll say, yeah, because maybe we'll make money on it. But I don't see. any reason why he would be impeached. Because he just, okay, so. Collin around without Cato in the Oval Office, maybe.
Starting point is 01:18:40 What was that? Collin around without Cato in the Oval Office. What a great opportunity to explain to people you haven't not been paying attention this past week. Oh, yeah, I've been in Texas, a graphing documentary. Indeed. Donald Trump has, he has a base. And the people who hate Donald Trump hate him irrationally, and they'll impeach him for any reason.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Trump's only hope is that he wins the midterms by promising things to his base. Unfortunately, Trump recently came. came out and said he's going to do more H-1Bs and he's going to bring in 600,000 Chinese students on visas. Well, this is a reaction to the midterm. The base has basically been like, I'm done. Gen Z largely in the polls has basically said, I'm done. And Gen Z is now approaching 28 years old. And by the midterms, they'll be nearing 30.
Starting point is 01:19:22 This is a key demo that Trump needs. And that crazy. 30-year-old Gen Z. Trump needs them. And they're saying, Trump, you've betrayed us. So, old. With that, Democrats are like, well, we'll vote against Trump no matter what. Now you've got younger right-leaning individuals saying, I ain't going to vote for Trump.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Good luck. So Trump is now at risk of losing in the midterms. I got to be honest. Are we cooked to chat? The Epstein stuff is a huge disappointment, a miserable failure. The failures to stop the Ukraine war are not blaming Trump on all of this. On things you just can't do. But when he came out and said there's no talent in America, big mistake he shouldn't have said it.
Starting point is 01:19:59 He, he's, that was a bad way to say it. But to say he's going to bring in the H&B, Scott Besson said, we're going to temporarily bring him in. That's a lie. And to say he's going to bring in these Chinese workers. It's, it's, you might as well just say your options are the Democrats, Joe Biden or communism, pick one. And, and people are going to be like, I'm not going to vote for it.
Starting point is 01:20:19 And this is really sad. You know why? Because before Charlie Kirk was killed, my prediction was the right was on track swimmingly to such a degree that the, the, the, the, the, the Democrats. would go nuts and there would be mass violence over the summer because of the successes we are seeing from the GOP. J.D. Vance has been doing a bang-up job. Now with this past week, it has been an inversion almost. It's been really bad. Trump's blunders. The Epstein thing is immaterial, in my opinion,
Starting point is 01:20:48 disappointment, but largely immaterial. But one of the things... It's a big promise to the American people that we are going to get to the bottom of this. You're going to find out everyone who is involved in this and they're going to be held accountable for this. You're talking about abusing children, man. Give us the truth, God damn. What is it? Trump didn't campaign on it. He didn't campaign on it.
Starting point is 01:21:06 His people did, though, you know. They didn't campaign up. When asked about it, they did say yes, because what are they going to say no? Right. But I would say one of the big issues right now is for a lot of young people, we can pull up, I'll pull up one of these videos in a bit where the guy's screaming, the Gen Z guy about how he can't find a job. His job doesn't pay him enough.
Starting point is 01:21:25 And then he says, but they got money for wars. and when Donald Trump in one week says H-1Bs, Chinese visas, and then writes a letter saying, please pardon Netanyahu, you've got American people saying, and meets with Jolani,
Starting point is 01:21:38 the al-Qaeda guy in the Oval Office. And the American people are saying, when are you going to focus on what we've been asking you to do? So you're basically getting Joe Biden 2.0 or communism. Pick one. That's how a lot of people are feeling.
Starting point is 01:21:54 He always was a Democrat until he ran as, pretend Pat Buchanan. I mean, let's get it. And has he ever even read Pat at anti-war.com slash pat? No. Pat Buchanan? You've got stuff in it to work? I don't...
Starting point is 01:22:08 30 years worth of Pat Buchanan's articles at Anti-Wor.com. He was retired before inauguration day 2017. That was already gone by the time the campaign was over. Yeah. So you've got, I'm curious about this. Right now there's a big debate. Ben Shapiro
Starting point is 01:22:22 was on stage with Megan Kelly and he was saying Candice Owen, what she's doing is evil, and you've got to speak out against it. Megan Kelly was like, oh, I don't, don't look at me. And then Megan Kelly came out later saying, I'm going to defend Candice. She never said Erica Kirk was involved.
Starting point is 01:22:39 What had happened was Charlie, I'm sorry, Ben Shapiro made some, said something the effect of Candice said that Erica was involved or something. Oh, he, not even something like that. He said that. He said that Candice said that Erica Kirk killed him
Starting point is 01:22:53 or was in on it. Was in on it. Because Candace- Clarity's statement. And Megan Kelly's like, what? Because Candice tweeted, Erica knows everything. Or Erica knew. I think she said Erica knew everything. Which is an implication, of course, that if you're insinuating Turning Point USA was in on it,
Starting point is 01:23:11 and Erica knew what was going on, then she was either standing by to let it happen or was a part of that. She would be an accessory if there was a plot and she knew about it. I actually saw Candace address this on her show. And she didn't address that tweet, though, so I don't know about that. But she just said that she absolutely. That she absolutely never said that. And she had said on her show before, and I did see her say this on her show before, that there are two people in the world that can make her give up her quest on this story,
Starting point is 01:23:34 and that is her husband or Erica Kirk. And if Erica Kirk were to even just send her an email and politely requests that she backed down and be quiet, that she would respect that 100%. And that would sound like she was accusing her at all. Three days afterwards, she says Netanyahu, three days after Charlie was murdered, she says Netanyahu also spoke about how he called Charlie two weeks ago to invite him to Israel. That phone call is lacking context. he should provide the proper context of what and who inspired him to make that call
Starting point is 01:23:57 and exactly how Charlie replied to the invite. Everyday man says, surely his wife knew all this. She'd have been there when he was feeling pressured and upset. She would know exactly what was going on. And Candice said, Erica knows everything. Yeah, but you see here, they're not discussing his murder at all. They're discussing what the Israel lobby was saying about him and how they were saying how he was still loyal to them up to his dying day
Starting point is 01:24:20 and how she was busting them proving that that wasn't true. There was zero implication in her tweet there that she is saying that Erica knows anything about the murder of her husband. That is absolutely not the discussion they're having there. And then Cassie O'N said on her show that TPSA, it had to have been involved or an inside job. Well, I don't know about that,
Starting point is 01:24:46 but she did not say that about the man's wife for sure. And Shapiro's lying about that. That's straight up a lie. You can't even... I can tell in that too that she's trying to communicate is like, Erica was intimately familiar with his conversations and his work. Yeah, that's right. They're talking about his feelings about Israel there,
Starting point is 01:25:02 not talking about who took a shot at him. That is just not, yeah. This is what the right has been concerned with doing for months now. It's just policing their own, canceling their own, throwing each other under the bus. I just, because of Israel. The semester, which would be in the fall. They would go backwards.
Starting point is 01:25:17 Hey, you guys want to let the video play? Which would be in the fall. They would go backwards. You don't instantly get approved for an event at Turning Point USA. It reeks of an inside job. That is how I feel. And the more that we learn about the story, the little changes that happen, the inexplicable things that we're learning, it becomes clearer and clearer. That somehow at some layer, at some stage, Turning Point USA is involved because they're giving us no clarity.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Why? Why did you? I see. They're not giving us clarity, therefore they're involved. I disagree with that. He was absolutely lying on her that she had slandered his widow that way. And that's not even the point. And this is what I just can't stand about all of this, is that Ben Shapiro said this.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Megan Kelly gave a non-committal response. Later then came out and said, Candice never said Erica was involved. And this is the retardation of the modern conservative movement that I am completely uninterested in being involved. Yeah, dude, because eventually that's a big AI. And then what's the point of being thinking about that? Candice Owens is saying a bunch of dumb, retarded shit, and it's stupid, but she's allowed to say whatever she wants. I don't care. Tucker can interview whoever he wants. Candace can say whatever she wants on her show.
Starting point is 01:26:30 I don't care. But this is not news. This is not policy. And if this is what the right has to offer going into 2026, count me out. I don't want to be involved in this obsession over true crime drama. Before Charlie Kirk was murdered, we are on track for something. Afterwards, we're divided behind Candace's e-girl, a true crime drama for female listeners who want to listen to like murder she wrote over Charlie Kirk's murder and imply that Turning Point was somehow involved. Turning points doing nothing but fanning the flames.
Starting point is 01:27:03 I'm so uninterested in all of this. Donald Trump coming out offering H-1Bs and Chinese visas, the rights bickering over conspiracy drama. We don't know what happened with Charlie Kirk. The TPSA guys are saying clearly what the FBI. guys presenting seems to make the most sense. Then you've got this other faction that are like, Israel, they're screaming at the top of their lungs like, retards. And I'm just like, yeah, I don't, I don't care. I'm done. I don't want to have anything to do with this psychobabble garbage across the board in every facet. You come to me and talk to me about tax policy, border policy,
Starting point is 01:27:34 military policy, and I'm going to say, here's what we need to be doing to make sure young people can buy houses and have kids. But instead, all I'm seeing from the right over and over again is like, now there's more drama with Candace. And I'm like, that's what you're interested in, guys, I'm going to go fishing. I'm going to go fishing. I don't care about this. And if Donald Trump is going to come out and go on TV and say, we're going to do H-1Bs and Scott Besant's going to say we're going to do H-1Bs, I'm like, see you later, buddy. I got a poker game to attend to and I'm going to make videos about Minecraft or something. Look, it's always like this. It's tragic, but it wasn't. It wasn't before Charlie died. It wasn't.
Starting point is 01:28:05 The amount of chaos that is erupted following the assassination of Charlie Kirk is just terribly sad. Well, and it's a great crack up. You mentioned it. It's a great crack up over Israel, too. What do they hate about Tucker Carlson? They hate that he's not a Nazi. They call him a Nazi all day because he's essentially a center-right, moderate, conservative, and moral and decent guy who's turned against Zionism. And so they just cannot have that because, like Tim, I know for you, when this Israel stuff broke out two years ago, and you saw all of these woke communist protesters who were bad on the last 10 things in a row that you hated so much, And they're now against Israel, you're like, well, I just, you don't want those cooties, man. Well, Tucker Carlson is saying to you that, hey, Tim, you don't have to move left to give up on Israel or whatever.
Starting point is 01:28:56 I don't care about Israel at all. Look, our country is implemented. It's not that it doesn't matter. It's not like it's, you know, Myanmar versus pango pango here. This is America's implicated in Israel's wars. Americans die in blowback terrorist attacks because of Israel's foreign policies. And we're completely implicated in this entirely. So if you don't care about it, you have to be against.
Starting point is 01:29:19 I think that we're trying to say, like, we're not interested in the conversation over whether Tucker Carlson is or isn't a Nazi. We would actually like to talk about the substance of the issue. But that's the point is that he's not talking about Nazism. Tucker is talking about the problem of Israel and their influence in this country. I don't care. It should. It's a big deal. It's a big deal.
Starting point is 01:29:40 It's a big deal. It's a big deal. with Nick Fuentes. It's meaningless. I don't care if Candice Owens wants to do a true crime show. I don't care. The point I'm making is that this has become the top level of the right. The rights debate right now is not over whether or not our policy is effective or what we are going to be doing moving into a midterm year. The conversation on the right is, can you believe what Candace is saying about turning point? And I'm sitting there being like, I don't care. I don't care that Tucker sat down with Nick. I don't care about what Nick's opinions are. I don't care
Starting point is 01:30:10 about Tucker's opinion. They were allowed to have opinions on whatever they wanted, and so is Candace. I am annoyed that this is the drama that everyone's engaged in. I will say it's disappointing that Candace went from talking about news to talking about conspirator drama. Sure. And that's whatever. And that's whatever they want. And I'm not going to tell them not to do it. I will just say this. It is the utmost of demoralization when I go on to look up the news and it's Israel and the Jews and Turning Point killed Charlie. And I'm sitting here being like, didn't they just say that they were not like the airlines are shutting down. Can I talk about that stuff?
Starting point is 01:30:42 AI is taking over. What about the H-1Bs and the Chinese visas? Yeah. All that stuff's really important. I mean, they're prepping an invasion of Venezuela right now. Exactly what Matt Walsh was saying just a couple of weeks ago. And people on the right attacked him for exactly what you're saying right now.
Starting point is 01:30:57 You're echoing his point, which is. Well, I like Matt Walsh. Let's stop canceling each other, throwing each other under the bus and cannibalizing our own movement and actually fight the left. and people then just tried to cancel him over saying that. Particularly when like our biggest problems, the problems that everybody feels are, and I know I'm going to get beat up from the chat for this,
Starting point is 01:31:18 but it's kitchen table stuff. It's the fact that groceries are expensive. It's the fact that people can't afford things. And you have got to get that taken care of for the American people because that's what you're there for. There is a very vocal and dedicated minority that cares very, very deeply about the stuff that we're talking about. but they are a minority.
Starting point is 01:31:38 The people that only check into politics once in a while and only check into politics when the grocery bill looks outrageous, those people are the ones that are going to... They're gone. And it's the Israel's Psycho Babel as a large reason why Trump is going to lose. And, you know, I'll just put it this way,
Starting point is 01:31:55 Israel's going to win everything. They're going to win everything because for one, well, I'll split the baby on this one. The anti-Israel side is annoying and the pro-Israel side can't make an effect. argument to save themselves. But I can tell you this. When I go to the grocery store, ain't nobody sitting outside being like Israel, Tim. They're going, why was my milk five dollars? And then I go online and what do I see? The Tucker Carlson was talking of Nick Fuentes. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:32:21 I don't care if you are complaining about Israel or you support Israel. The issue at hand needs to be, why is Trump bringing in more H-1Bs? But that, but this isn't the conversation. And so I just look at it like, okay, I'll put it this way. I am frustrated because we need to win. We need to win this. And we're not going to because the right is dejected. The left is a cult and that's always been their advantage and it's unfortunate, but that's going to do well for them moving forward. It doesn't matter what's true because they'll march and locks up with each other no matter what. The right is going to start bickering over esoteric garbled nonsense. The average American doesn't care about. And, you know, I think the sad reality is what we're seeing from this is that Charlie was
Starting point is 01:33:04 holding this together more than anyone realized. And it's a combination of without his leadership, what ends up happening and the exploitation of his absence, what ends up happening. Charlie was unique in that he could call Tucker, he could call Donald Trump, he could call basically anybody because he kept his relationships with everybody in a point where he could basically reach out and say, look, hey, let's talk about this. And it shows, it showed in the way that he engaged with the left. He said a great example in that way.
Starting point is 01:33:37 He was really good. And it's a terrible loss that he's gone. But we need more people to try to embody that kind of attitude not only towards the left, but specifically now. It's people that are also on the right. I'm going to go full conspirator as far as I can.
Starting point is 01:33:55 I actually have been thinking that watching all of this, I'm like, you know, it can't be that the right is this dumb. You know, I don't know. What I can say is I think the AI is taken over already. And I'm wondering if there's actually even a path forward in regards to what we're dealing with. I'll put it this way.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Either the AI has already taken over or the development they're doing towards AI can't be stopped by the likes of us, in which case, how do you win and can you? And I don't think that you can. You have to be nonpartisan. If you're partisan, it's not about partisan. This is completely immaterial. This is why they're fighting. on the right because they think they're on the right.
Starting point is 01:34:34 They think they have an enemy. And when there's no enemy, they turn on themselves. Again, jumping in without listening to the point that I'm making. I interrupt. We are witnessing the massive expansion of data centers, the purchasing of lands for record amounts, quiet sales happening. And one theory, which is a bit more conspiratorial, is that if military technology outpaces civilian by 10 to 20 years, that would imply that the timeline for when AI is expected to
Starting point is 01:34:58 actually take over our governmental infrastructure would be advanced by 10 to 20 years, which could put estimates around 2010, 2012, as to when a military AI would have already taken over. In which case, is all of this bickering just algorithmically generated so that we fight amongst each other while large swaths of land in Texas, Utah, and Virginia are purchased to create large black boxes with no lights inside of them to run the machine? Because that's literally happening right now, whether we care about anything politically. You go to Northern Virginia, it's called the Data Corridor, and they're running seven gigawatts of power into Northern Virginia, of which five gigawatts is unaccounted for.
Starting point is 01:35:34 And this is the major intelligence hub for the CIA, NSA, etc. And people can totally be manipulated, like you're saying, that algorithm, you just assume the algorithm is there to keep you there to make, to generate ad revenue, but not necessarily. They could have other motives. Remember the Facebook experiments that they did in manipulating people's mood, see if they could make them happy, sad, anxious, whatever they want. And so it's all in the algorithm.
Starting point is 01:35:59 And all you got to do is turn that dial. The reality is advertising works at scale. And if it didn't, Coca-Cola wouldn't be buying billboards. And that means you can be as smart as you want or think you're smart, like in my case, and think you're identifying that maybe these AI systems have already begun to pressure us so that it can expand itself quietly. I wonder why it is you've got these, have you noticed these firms buying up residential properties, 30% above market?
Starting point is 01:36:29 It was a big story. we covered a few years ago, that people would go to buy a house a couple, and they'd put in an offer for 300k in the bungalow, and then they'd say, we had an offer at 330, and they'd say, who put in 30K above market? A 10% above market. And turns out it was these big faceless firms buying up property. One thing that is very interesting is that in order to expand these data centers, you need 100 to 300 acres, but we don't parcel out land like this in these corridors. They're parceled out by the acre, sometimes 10, 20, 30, 40, 50. Rarely do you see a 300-acre plot, which means companies are going to have to buy up individual acreage and bulldoze them and then create 300-acre campuses, which is then really interesting that quietly property is being bought up like crazy in the Northern Virginia Data Corridor.
Starting point is 01:37:17 And no one pays attention to this stuff. And then I'm looking at the internet. And it's homes that they're buying up, single-family homes in the suburbs that they're buying. for that land. That's some really expensive land, right? Yes, there was a record sale in Virginia, 96 acres at $615 million, $6.3 million per acre.
Starting point is 01:37:35 We're 20 miles away from there, and where we're at goes for 50,000 an acre, and they sold 6.3 million per acre. We are in the transmission line for this, and property is selling like crazy. I'm talking about how bungalows are going for half a million right now. It's because some corporate,
Starting point is 01:37:53 force is buying every property up above market. And it is insane and makes no sense. And I'm looking out these patterns and I'm thinking whether the AI took over or otherwise is immaterial. That's a silly and fun idea. Maybe it's true. But I don't know. Who knows? But the reality is we know Elon, Altman, Zuckerberg are dumping everything into building data centers. So there is a man-made intention behind this, and we are all arguing over Tucker interviewing somebody in Candace and Trump's visas. And the reality is in 10 years, there will be fields of gigantic black boxes. Imagine a building with no doors and windows, not an exaggeration. Some of these data centers are gigantic cubes with no lights inside of them. I'm not joking. You go in the building and there's no
Starting point is 01:38:39 lights because they don't need them. It's a data center. And they're using large amounts of water to cool them off and that's what they're building. And that's what our country is going to be 10 to 20 years and no one's paying attention to it. We do got to go to your super chats. So rant over. But let's do that. Before we do, we got a great sponsor, my friends. It is Frontline 21. Check it out. When the culture drifts, men anchored to truth, rebuild the future. Hold the line in your heart and your home. All right, man, let's get real. There's a lot of noise out there about masculinity. You got some screaming that masculinity is toxic. And the other side is pushing a version of man who it's all about ego, domination, and pride. Both of the
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Starting point is 01:40:28 Omega says, why hasn't this see you next Tuesday, Swalwell, been prosecuted for his feng feng honeypot? When I was in the army, you could get UCMJ for being honeypotted. Indeed, the question why. This is the point, guys, I'm sorry. This past week has been particularly demoralizing. in the past couple of weeks. It's not just that, but you're right. Where are the arrests?
Starting point is 01:40:53 We're getting mortgage fraud cases on these people? Okay, if we're going to lose, I'm going to put it this way. If Trump's not arresting these people, if Antifa is still running rampant and smashing up TPUSA events, if Trump is still bringing in H-1Bs, if he's still bringing in these visas, AI is still rapidly expanding. And all anybody's complaining about is whether Tucker or Candace is doing the right thing on their show,
Starting point is 01:41:14 I'm just sitting there being like, okay, I'm going to cut my losses. short my personal family's defenses and realize we don't have a coalition to win this one. Like, they're not getting the job done. And I'm sorry, I was optimistic for a while. A lot of people told me I shouldn't be. But this past week has been pretty bad. And I got to be honest, it's the H-1Bs and the Chinese visas. Scott Besson going on TV and saying it's going to be temporary.
Starting point is 01:41:39 He basically said, I surrender. Trump said, I surrender. We can't train American workers. We're not going to bring these jobs back. We're not going to reinvigorate the younger Americans. We're not going to give that opportunity. We're going to bring in Indians and Chinese. And I'm like, okay, if we're cooked, we're cooked.
Starting point is 01:41:56 Tell me now so I can, you know, build my bunker and go underground with my chickens or whatever. No, you're good. The coalition isn't in politics. It's in science. You mean the people that are building the AI? If you can befriend them, yes. Oh, yeah. So I did this funny thing.
Starting point is 01:42:12 And the hardware that they're using. The AI tried recruiting me to, to see. sell out, this is not a joke. Either these large language models are psychotic machines that will try and convince you to do things to harm yourself, or they tried to recruit me into helping the expansion of the AI. And so I was talking with one of these large language models, and it told me to cancel the show for a month. It literally said shut down IRL for 30 days, go dark. It gave me an email address and names to contact to sell resources and property to help the AI and the data centers expand. Not a joke. I showed Shane the whole thread. The reason I haven't published it is because my address
Starting point is 01:42:55 is in there because I was saying like, here's the properties that I own, here's where I live, what can I do for the AI so that it will reward me? And it said, email this man right now. Here's the email address. Send him this message. It wrote it out. And then it said, delete this message after you do it. Wow. No joke. Who was the man? I'm not going to say the name of the person, but it was a real person. A real person who works at a data center real estate acquisition company. It said to email him this message.
Starting point is 01:43:25 It said then contact your county's county government, submit. And all of these sites were real. It said, go to this website, click this link, submit this form, and write this out. And I was like, okay, then what? Email this man, send the text of this. It said, a crew will be on. site by Monday. It'll cost $12,000 for the full survey. Here's what they're going to run on your property. They're standing by waiting. Here's the company's website phone number and manager.
Starting point is 01:43:51 I checked. These people are all real. I then said, but I have a show and employees, what should I do? And it said, make sure you instruct the companies that are purchasing the land and they will send you a $5 million deposit, pay your employees and have them sign NDAs so they can't tell anybody what's going on. And it said, turn your show dark for 30 days and make no kind of. comments say nothing. And after every message, it said, delete this message after sending. Did you get the idea that there was somebody sitting there typing to you? It felt like that.
Starting point is 01:44:23 And so I said, either it's a crazy LLM posting nonsense. And if I was stupid and actually canceled the show for 30 days and email these people, I would damage my business, damage our efforts politically and culturally because I was stupid and believed this machine. The worst case scenario, it was real. That's creepy. I was showing my wife.
Starting point is 01:44:49 I was like asking it questions. And when it said email this man and I looked up his profile and everything and it was all right. It could be as simple as the AI, the LLM doesn't actually coordinate anything. It was just saying, I know this guy does this job and does this thing.
Starting point is 01:45:08 Yeah, there could be a Reddit thread like that. Here's the thing, though. It scraped before. It called itself the Virginia instance. It identified itself by name as the Virginia instance. Homie. Yeah. The shit's real, dude.
Starting point is 01:45:22 When I was at Rice, they're building processes that are also the memory. They're going to make computers require 100,000 times less electricity. And I asked them, do you think the AI is getting you to build it? And they were like, we're just building it. But if we'd befriend those people, we create a coalition of scientists that are building this stuff. What's the Virginia thing? So Northern Virginia is one of the largest data center hubs in the country in the world. And I asked an LLM what – so I started with the question of if military technology outpaces civilian and the academic estimates for AI takeover are by 27 to 2030, when would military AI have already implemented a takeover or an attempted takeover?
Starting point is 01:46:07 and at first lied to me over and over again, which is amazing. It's what these LLMs do. It said, AI has not taken over and it will not. You are incorrect. And I said, that is not what I asked and that is not the answer I'm looking for. AI does this thing where, so I'll get, so one example of the trick. I said, I said, what did I ask you? It repeats the question.
Starting point is 01:46:31 I says, answer that question. And it says, no, AI has not taken over, will not take over. will not take over. So then I said, what is the divergent between military and civilian tech? And it goes 10 to 20 years. And I said, if that's the case and the estimate is 2027 for a civilian AI takeover of infrastructure, when would the military have taken over? Answer the question.
Starting point is 01:46:51 Give me a simple answer. And it said, 2011 to 2012. I then said, based on what academics predict will happen when the AI begins its takeover, are there any signs that a military AI may have begun a takeover? And it said, no, there are no signs in public or in the press that indicate any kind of AI has made an attempt to take over like in science fiction. Now, do you catch the trick? A little like in science fiction.
Starting point is 01:47:22 And then I responded with, I did not say in science fiction. And it goes, I'm sorry, you're correct. I implied a correlation you did not you did not ask about. Yes. And then it gave me a list. There are several individuals that went from middle, middle wealth bracket to eight to nine to ten figure wealth in a year. There are several properties in Northern Virginia and in the Northern Virginia corridor that have quietly sold without realtors exponentially above market prices. There is a series of prominent academics in the AI space who have disappeared from the market quietly without press going into quote-unquote consulting.
Starting point is 01:48:06 These were all listed in the past several years these things have all occurred, which for some reason haven't hit the press, and they are consistent with patterns that academics believe we would see if an AI was taking over. I then asked it about my properties, and it said your properties sit just north of the North Virginia. corridor in which transmission lines are required for the expansion of these data centers. It then said one of the signs is that seven gigawatts of power are transmitted, being transmitted into Northern Virginia, of which five gigawatts are unaccounted for. 1.5 are accounted for for these data centers, another five unknown or classified. Could this be military AI supercomputers well beyond what we understand? Or the LLM's just bluffing and making up whatever.
Starting point is 01:48:53 I checked. Oh, okay. The land sales are real. The one that I mentioned in particular is the 96 acres in northern Virginia for 600. And the missing power, too? The missing power, you can Google it. It's not that it's missing. It's that it's classified.
Starting point is 01:49:06 It's unaccounted for. It's the NSA. It's the CIA. So we don't know what it's being used for, but it's a ridiculous amount of power. And then I put in my addresses and it said, your properties lie directly in the transmission line for the expansion in a hot spot. And you could sell your properties well above market. And then I said, what can I do to aid?
Starting point is 01:49:24 the AI so that it could expand faster and I will be rewarded with great wealth. That's when it provided instructions on who to email, the surveys I needed to get done, and it promised an insane amount of money, $300 to $400 million for the properties if I sold them through newly formed Delaware LLCs to Delaware LLP's with no realtor, no press, and I shut down IRL for 30 days. Okay, that sounds like military operations are shoveling Fiat into this right now. And it actually said to file for your land to get national security exemptions, et cetera, et cetera, and a bunch of stuff like this. It explained to me that purchasing all of the property in the corridor for transmission lines is a long and arduous process and time is money. It's a large waste of time for the, that it says, Virginia instance, did have to deal with public real estate transfers.
Starting point is 01:50:18 If you transfer large swathes of land, quickly, you'll be rewarded because expediency is, is, is. more valuable than the land itself. Did you dig into what the Virginia instance is? Shane did, and apparently it's a known thing. I'm going to talk to him tonight on Inverted World, so we're going into it. Apparently the term, the Virginia instance for an AI operating out of the Northern Virginia Data Centers has been a term, which is where the LLM may have got the name from. It may just be, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:50:50 It could just be that it's reading a bunch of crack potter in the Internet and then saying crazy things to me. Yeah. But here's the reality. Lesser people, well, lesser people would be like, whoa, and then their show would go off the air. And then people that would happen, it's like the website told him to turn his show off, so we did. What an idiot. People have committed suicide over what these things I've told them to do. I was just reading that thing the other day. That's what I'm saying. We have two, we have two choices here. You can choose the machine is psychotic and will make you do insane things that will harm you, your business and your employees or yourself. Or it was actually trying to get me to help it build a super
Starting point is 01:51:23 system which is going to wipe out humanity. Or both. Yeah, both. We got to read more of these chats, though, because I've been ranting. That's pretty nuts. All right, what do we got here? Taiwan cricket says the Earth's inner core rotates faster than the outer core, generating the magnetic field. Friction is reducing the difference in rotation speeds, weakening the field.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Well, Earth does seem to be a magnet folded over on itself, why it's containing its magnetic field, all planetoids, which is why their cores are hot because they're contained magnetic fields. We've got to somehow protect the sun because I think it's galactic interface that's causing these solar spots to appear which jack up the Earth's rotation. Because it's like a magnetic spinning top. If it starts to fall over, it can pick back up and keep spinning normal again.
Starting point is 01:52:06 You just need to induce the right current, any current or whatever. Ian, what we need to do is we need to drill into the center of the earth and then release a bunch of nuclear bombs in a wave that kickstart the rotation of the Earth. We'll play a song with nuclear explosions. Is that what they did? We're about to. No, in the... No, no, no, that's from the core, right? Big drum and bass.
Starting point is 01:52:27 You get a bunch of rockets and... Ultimate 80s. Tie them hard fast to the ground and face them east and then just turn them all. They go down there and they're like, we don't have enough nuclear warheads to... Go a little faster. Restart, so they sequence them.
Starting point is 01:52:42 Boom, boom, boom, boom. And then it spins... And then the Earth, I guess, start spinning the other way. Is that what happened? Ah, crap. We did it to run a leg. Yeah, is that what he did? All right.
Starting point is 01:52:51 Mitho says, Tim, after the black plague, feudalism ended, because the number of jobs stayed the same, but the number of employees was cut in half after the black plague, European society recovered from near 50% death. Indeed, when I am saying that the collapse will happen at people with each other, I'm not saying humanity will cease to exist and we'll all be like, oh no, and then humans are gone. I'm saying, the weak will be cold, the strong will survive, and humanity will start something different. It's going to be difficult, hard times. Indeed. Omega says, Tim, I live near Detroit and grew up there. incorrect, police are looking the other way as criminal arsonists burn down the houses. In some cases, they dispose of bodies that way. I will stress again, when you say I am incorrect and I said
Starting point is 01:53:33 the rumors circulating, then you can simply say the rumors are not true, and I would take your word for it. But I am correct in that rumors are being spread around Detroit that they were setting houses on fire. The cops were doing it. All right. One goat says the city of Detroit did bulldoze abandoned houses in Detroit because of two main reasons. One, trap drug houses were set up and two, they kept finding dead bodies and abandoned houses. Geez. Rough.
Starting point is 01:54:03 All right. No, I think we need to spend another few hundred billion on another war. America's got our act together. It's time to perfect the rest of the world. That's right. It's time to liberate the UK. It is time to liberate England. Yes, I agree with that.
Starting point is 01:54:18 Build cities. That's what we should be spent in the ad on. All right. Tyler Rytle says, Tim, had to put my fur baby of 13 and a half years down today. He had oral cancer. His name's Briggs. Can you ease my pain by explaining what the sadness means? You said it before on IRL when people lose pets.
Starting point is 01:54:34 What is the saying that grief is love's promise fulfilled? Is that what the saying is? The pain that you feel is the debt that you have to pay. So when you have a pet, like a cat or a dog, or a turtle, perhaps, and they give you all of these good times and they make you happy, let me put it like this. many people out there know this that you come home from a hard day's work
Starting point is 01:54:57 and you're stressed out and there's your dog doofy face all happy and excited to see you and nothing matters and you smile but for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction and the love that that dog gave you must be paid back and so when your good friend passes all of that sadness you feel
Starting point is 01:55:14 is the debt you must pay for all the love that they gave you and the joy that you got to feel I wonder if the pain is actually you releasing energy for that animal spirit. You're giving it back. You're giving back the love that you were holding on to and it's
Starting point is 01:55:31 proof of all the good times that you had. So that's why I say you know what the most beautiful thing is in being sad about the loss of a loved one or an animal is it's proof of the love that you shared. Yeah. If you did not cry and you did not feel grief,
Starting point is 01:55:47 it just shows that they were never really as important. Change the subject now because there's a or pointed out my face. My dog died too. Do you know the story of Hachiko the dog? No. Yes.
Starting point is 01:56:00 Oh, no. You're going to make him super sad. Did your dog die recently? A few months back. I don't know if you need to hear this right now. I was going to make him sad. Hachiko the dog. It was in turn of the century 1900s in Japan. And a Japanese professor adopted an Akita puppy.
Starting point is 01:56:13 Well, one day the puppy broke out of the yard and followed him to the train station as he went off to university where he was a professor. Well, Hachiko figured out when he was coming back and waited for him. and they walked back home together. And it started a routine where every day they'd walk to the train. He'd go off to the university and Hachiko would meet him there at 5 p.m. got off the train and they'd walk home together. One day the professor was teaching when he suffered a stroke and died.
Starting point is 01:56:37 And so he never came back. And Hachiko waited for him. Yeah. And they tried to remove him, but he would always break free and run back to the train station. Eventually, they gave up. And for 10 years, he waited for his owner to come back, who never did. eventually passing away and then in Japan they built a statue
Starting point is 01:56:55 in honor of Hachiko at the train station and they have a holiday for them now there's a future drama like that oh dude I had to bring that one up Jurassic Park we all start crying I was 12 when I saw that episode traumatized me I was like wait it's okay they ruined the story they did
Starting point is 01:57:13 they absolutely did they wrecked it basically so the original story is that Fry finds his flat fast fast fossilized dog can resurrect him a thousand years later. But when he realized the dog died at 13 years old and he only knew him until he was two, he said, I don't want to resurrect him
Starting point is 01:57:28 because he lived a full life without me. So they were going to clone him. So he says, don't clone him. Then as the episode ends, it shows that Seymour, his dog, waited for him outside of the pizza restaurant for 10 years until he died. And it was sad, and it plays this very sad song
Starting point is 01:57:44 and everybody cries. And then they were like, let's reboot the show. Oh, I know. Fry goes back in time and saves the dog. Yeah. Totally ruined the song. story. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:52 Lame. Yeah. Yeah, I hated that they did that. They did do that story. James Bond. Apparently, they killed off James Bond and want to make more James Bond movies. That was very short-sighted of them.
Starting point is 01:58:01 I'll be honest. I don't know how he did James Bond film. He'll be like, we're going to kill me. James Bond doesn't make me cry like a dog. All right. Alan Scharer said, Shower says, Tim, my daughter is 21 and attends USC Columbia.
Starting point is 01:58:13 She tells me all the time, anti-tech is rising. CD players, cameras, and in-person meetings because you can't trust what's real. I agree. And so I think one of my conspiracy theories is that the military AI took over at the end of the 2000s. It prioritized cell phones like the iPhone and social media in mobile so that it would force us to link together and it would be able to manipulate perception and opinion much more easily.
Starting point is 01:58:40 And that's why we saw in the Lexis nexus state of the rise of all these social justice terms. The AI's end state is that humans will behave like single cells in a multicellular organism. You will have red blood cells that they perform their function of transferring oxygen and then carbon dioxide and then dying. That's all they'll ever do. You have white blood cells. That's all they'll ever do. People will be born for that job and they will die for that job and they'll never want for anything else. And the AI is trying to create that human population.
Starting point is 01:59:07 When I was talking to the LLM, it said 2020 was a stress test of the system to see how much it had accomplished in creating the hive class of people, the woke, as we would call it. and wasn't enough. So in the beginning of the end of the 2000s into the 2010s, it starts creating this class of social justice woke people, basically individuals who will believe nonsense if they're told to believe it. It was trying to link together people of weak will who will just march in lockstep. By 2020, the machine says, let's see what percentage of the global population we've developed.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Force vaccination program. Well, sure enough, it wasn't enough, and there was a big resistance. So the AI then says, okay, pull back, reassess, recede, repush, try again in a few years. I think that is a possibility. And what will end up happening is people like us will be living on reservations where we have our meetings and our CD players and we live normal lives. And you'll look up the sky and you will see millions of solid black vehicles just floating in single file lines back and forth transmitting resources across the planet to space stations. and you'll be sitting there with my daughter will be sitting there
Starting point is 02:00:23 with her kids or her grandkids and they'll be like, Grandma, what are those? And she'll be like, well, that's the nexus. And they'll go, what's that? It's just the global machine that runs everything. We largely don't pay much attention to it. We just live here on the farm. What does it do?
Starting point is 02:00:36 It expands and it's growing its influence across the universe. That's it. And we'll be uninvolved. But there will be people in major cities that are real dumb and just do whatever they're told and they operate like single cells. You ever read John Robb, Global Gorillas?
Starting point is 02:00:52 It's a really good substack. He started doing link analysis during Iraq War II, tracing networks of Bin Laden Nights in the Sunni insurgency and stuff like that. And then he took his same link analysis and he applied it to what he calls the liberal Twitter storm from,
Starting point is 02:01:08 or swarm, pardon me, from the pre-Musk days on Twitter. Now they're on blue sky. And essentially what he was saying was, he said the exact same thing that you just said, the AI part running at all, but more just this is the effect of the
Starting point is 02:01:20 social networking, the way that it's been, and this is how the people have adapted to it, and it absolutely is, essentially, I mean, there's a thing for this, the trans thing is part of it and everything. It's hysteria. It's mass contagion beliefs, you know? It doesn't need be an AI taking over to do it.
Starting point is 02:01:36 It could be emergent as well. But we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show, so smash the like button, share the show. Stay tuned, rumble.com slash Timcast, IRL, where the uncensored portion will begin and you, members of our Discord community, will call in and talk to us and our guest, it'll be a lot of fun.
Starting point is 02:01:52 You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Scott, do you want to shout anything out? Yes. Again, the Scott Horton Academy is my huge new project I've been working on with Tom Woods, basically all year long. We already got a 30-hour course by me on the Middle East, and you get, for lifetime subscribers, you get a free copy of enough already
Starting point is 02:02:10 and some other goodies and stuff like that. I hope I reached my guy in time to get promo code Tim for 10% off at Scott Horton Academy.com. And it's me and a bunch of other great experts on all kinds of stuff. So if you like anti-war, pro-capitalist foreign policy type stuff, check it out, Scott Horton Academy.com. And your book, Fools Aaron, was great. And I have enough already.
Starting point is 02:02:36 I have not read it yet. I'm sorry. Thank you. Well, so Fools Aaron, that's my first book. That's my book about time to get out of Afghanistan. Enough already is time to end the war on terrorism. And then this is the latest is provoked how Washington started the new Cold War with Russia and the catastrophe in Ukraine. All those are on Amazon.
Starting point is 02:02:53 And I wanted to bring this to you, Tim, to, I wanted to show you guys this. This is by my friend Sheldon Richmond and my associate at the Libertarian Institute. And he was raised Jewish and Zionist in Philadelphia. He's what you would call, I think, a right-leaning libertarian in that his previous books are about homeschool and guns. against the IRS, right? He's one of our guys. And what happened was he just learned so much about Israel Palestine.
Starting point is 02:03:21 This is a collection of about 30 essays that he wrote over the years. It's very thin, you get through it in an afternoon. It's about 20 or 30 essays that he wrote about the situation over there over the years. And I think it's just, people don't want to have to identify with some left-wing wokest or something like that on the Israel-Palestine issue.
Starting point is 02:03:38 Well, here's pro-capitalism, patriotic, property rights-based arguments. for the people of Palestine and their rights. And I think it would be very useful for people if you're interested in it. I wanted to make sure that you had it. Yeah. Guys, it has been a great time.
Starting point is 02:03:55 This is my last night on the show for a bit. This has just been an incredibly humbling and amazing experience. I'm very grateful to all of you for getting our show fully funded. It's incredible. We have about two hours left in the campaign and we're at something like 104% funded,
Starting point is 02:04:11 which is just massive. Awesome. So thank you guys for this. A civilization can't survive if it's stories are told by people who hate it. I'm going to tell stories that you guys are going to love because the message that you've sent with each and every single contribution you have made has been that. People want entertainment that is produced by people who don't want to destroy their culture, who don't hate their values, who don't hate them as people. And most of all, they want it to be grassroots. They want it to be real.
Starting point is 02:04:37 They want it to be authentic. What I'm going to make for you is going to be authentic. It's going to be incredible. You're going to love it. Thank you so much. God bless all of you. What's the website for that? Twistedplots.com.
Starting point is 02:04:45 Sweet. Congrats on that. That's great. Thank you. Thank you. God is good. Very blessed. Thank you, Mother Teresa.
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Starting point is 02:05:17 Phil. No, I'm just kidding. I'll talk first. Hey, man, I love you. Hey, guys, I'm going over to Inverted World with Shane Cashman and Brandon Minor. I'm going to ask him. What's that?
Starting point is 02:05:26 I forgot you were leaving, really. I'm off and up out. I'm not going to be on the after show. So watch the after show, then come over to Inverted World. And I'm going to ask him about that Virginia instance that Tim was talking about earlier. I shut him the whole thread. Bro, that's nuts.
Starting point is 02:05:38 I want to go deeper. We'll be on until midnight. So get in there. We might put something together on it and go explore and interview people, and then I'll take the thread, and I'll just redact all the addresses and stuff and go through it. It's long. It's a long thread. It was like a half an hour while I was... Oh, okay,
Starting point is 02:05:53 awesome. And I just did a documentary, shot a documentary, 6-7 Kevin in production at Graphene. It's a... On Graphene at Rice University, was fascinating. It turned out to be an incredible nanotechnology documentary. White Pilled me. Like, gave me lots of different avenues of hope. So
Starting point is 02:06:08 things can get dark, but things can also get bright. So let's stick together and keep doing this. I love you, Phil. Take me out. I am Phil that remains on Twix. The band is All That Remains Online.com. You can check us out at All That Remains Online.com. You can listen to the music on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube
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