Timcast IRL - Trump Endorses Cuomo, Says NO COMMIE MAMDANI, Obama REFUSES To Endorse Mamdani w/ Mark Grimes

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Ian are joined by Mark Grimes to discuss Trump endorsing Andrew Cuomo for NYC Mayor, Cuomo projected to win against Mamdani according to NYC Kalshi data, the Trump admin to cut 50% of foo...d stamps, and Nancy Pelosi announcing she will not seek reelection.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Mark Grimes @Mark_Grimes (X)

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Starting point is 00:00:46 Will our greatest city succumb to the communists? I'm not so convinced. In fact, I'll say this. I am trading on Cuomo winning personally. Not something I typically do, but the data internally in New York not only shows in the polling data, it's neck and neck and Cuomo really could win. But according to Kalshi, Cuomo was in. actually the favorite inside of New York. Outside of New York, Mamdani is the favorite nine to one. So we don't know exactly what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I think it's fair to say that Mamdani does win, but it is not a sure thing. Now, Barack Obama's refusing to endorse, which is interesting. So we will talk about that. Snap benefits will be partially funded. We did not see people storming the gates and stealing, but there have been some videos of people complaining. Ultimately, it wasn't the apocalypse just yet. And then Donald Trump says, okay, we're going to send it out at half the right. So, okay, we'll see what happens. We've got fear of war with Trump talking about sending in drones and military against cartels and potential strike on Venezuela. And this story that is kind of crazy, an explosion at Harvard. We don't know why it may be nothing. But considering the escalation
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Starting point is 00:04:40 Hey, Tim, how are you? Thanks for having your Canadian neighbor down today. Appreciate being here and really happy to be here today. Who are you? What do you do? So 13 years, I traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange's Florida, but the old days when you're throwing paper around. I did that for 13 years
Starting point is 00:04:55 on Bay Street, which is your Wall Street. And I own a transportation logistic company. He does a lot of business in the U.S. back and forth with trade between U.S. and and I spent 19 years in Toronto as a politician as a city councilman. And also as the commissioner of the Ontario, Junior A lacrosse League, the best Junior A lacrosse league in the world. We did that for four years.
Starting point is 00:05:14 It just resigned about five months ago. So I've got a vast experience with a lot of things, but I'm happy to be here. Love being in the U.S. I got a home, an upstate New York and then one in Florida, but my home is Toronto. Are you excited to become the 51st state? That's never going to happen, my friend.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Never going to happen. We'll get into that later, but it's not going to happen. Right on. Should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. We got Ian. Hey, everybody. Good to be here. Ian Crossland. I am an actor, musician. I've been playing a lot with AI lately, putting stuff on my Instagram, doing music. Anyway, check me out on the internet at Ian Crosson if you want, but let's get into this. I have a magical guest in front of me tonight. I get to look at him all night. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I am back. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Let's get into it tonight. And you're one other thing. I am a father, yes. I'm back from a week and a half. of paternity leave and I left my my girlfriend at home with the baby and hopefully the baby doesn't puke on her too much. Congratulations. Thank you very much. I appreciate. Boy. Boy. Yeah. So had a son. It's pretty crazy. I mean, obviously if you've got kids, you know the first couple weeks are a whirlwind. You're not sure when you're going to sleep. You're not sure exactly how to do anything. So you kind of just like
Starting point is 00:06:28 you feel like you're just kind of blindly making your way through it. But we've got things into a bit of a routine now. So I was like, all right, I can come back to the IRL desk and talk smack about the left. Let's go. Here's the story from the New York Post. Trump tells New York, you must vote for Andrew Cuomo over Zohran Mamdani in New York City election and ditch Curtis Leeway. I feel so bad for Curtis Lewa because he's a good dude. He's a good dude. But nobody expecting to win. And I'm
Starting point is 00:06:59 sorry. Just I wouldn't vote for Cuomo. I wouldn't do it. It's not going to happen. Sorry. Donald Trump can say do it. Short of the Lord himself, I ain't voting for that guy. Now, I don't live in New York. I'm lucky. I left. But Cuomo failed his state miserably during COVID. Trump certainly has some faults during COVID too. And I don't want Zoranamani to win. But you put up Andrew Cuomo as your candidate. They should have, he should have dropped out and endorsed Sliwa. Sorry. Well, I mean, this is my life is, do you like,
Starting point is 00:07:33 Look at how corrupt the liberal economic order is. And then you know what the option is is communism? And I'm like, bro, I don't want communism, but I'm not voting for corrupt corporatocracy. Same way with Cuomo who put elderly people from nursing home or put them in nursing homes during COVID and got a bunch of people. He put COVID patients in nursing homes and killed 15,000 elderly people. We've used the term murder. I mean, many times the word murder has been thrown around for what he did to those people. And now that they're running this guy, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I don't know who Curtis Slee will is if he should be. He's the perennial Republican New York candidate for mayor, always running. The Guardian Angels. He's a good dude, but he's just not with the New York zeitgeist, I guess. It's a bunch of Democrat wackos. So the best you can get, I suppose, is an independent Cuomo, but he couldn't even win the Democrat primary. That being said, I actually think he's got a decent chance to win. I'm still leaning towards Mamdani winning, but I do think Cuomo has a stronger chance than people realize.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Yeah, well, you pulled up the polls earlier. We were looking at, in New York, they seem to want Cuomo, according to this poll that we were looking at earlier. But across the country, it's like 90% Mom Dami. You know, you've got all the communists. I don't want to. We'll get into that, but Elon Musk is backing Cuomo. Interestingly, Obama is not backing Mom Dani. That's really cool.
Starting point is 00:08:50 That's very weird. Dude, Obama's, I want to pick that guy's brain. What is he thinking about the current state of politics? Probably murdering children. Just all day, every day. He's like, Michelle, we're going to go to a beach and live for little kids. which are going to have a third term more kids
Starting point is 00:09:04 Like he obviously hated Biden He thought he said never You know Don't ever underestimate Joe Biden's ability To F shit up like that's his quote Basically said that You you you F shit
Starting point is 00:09:14 And so he's He knows that Biden was a busted object So he's not totally checked out You know he's a smart dude And he's not getting involved It's kind of the best of the worst up there My boys up in upstate New York They do not like a coma whatsoever
Starting point is 00:09:30 But again it comes down to the best of the worst You know, what do you, what's your option? Well, I mean, I don't think that it's realistic to think that any kind of Republican can win in, in, any kind of, you know, modern Republican can win in in New York. Yeah, I feel like what's going on in the city is similar to what's going on in the UK, right? Like, even the people in the UK that are considered conservative are, would be considered Democrats by the U.S. standards, right? None of them actually say things like that would be considered conservative by U.S. standards. None of them want a smaller government. None of them want to limit the NHS.
Starting point is 00:10:06 They want to expand the NHS. They want their National Health Service to take care of more people. They want to continue funding. They don't want to actually make the government smaller. And that's, you know, at least by, again, by American standards, conservatives want to make the government smaller. They want to limit the amount of programs that people are on, you know, government programs that the people are on.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Because if the government is paying for your food, the government can, prevent you from eating. It's a system of control at the end of the day. Pretty small right now. It's shut down. Well, I mean, it's great. I love it. I love the idea. But, you know, I think that the idea that a real conservative could be elected
Starting point is 00:10:44 in New York, I don't think that's realistic. No, even Curtis Slewa said not to deport illegal immigrants. Yeah. It's like New York's like a city state back in the day. It was a big way of governance back in the day before countries got kick in before technology and roads and and writing and paperwork and all that.
Starting point is 00:11:01 But city states, New York's like a city state. If you ever go live there, you can go into the city and never leave for seven years. You don't have to leave the city. You have everything. And then more, and you'll never run out of stuff to find. Except they don't make their own food, but as like a centralized hub. They're all important. And this is actually, this is in the 1800s, it was Vanderbilt controlled all the men who made America,
Starting point is 00:11:20 you know, the richest man in America, controlled the railroads and decided one day, we're not going to ship food into New York anymore and held the government by the balls. And it was a big part of the reason why they started like anti-truise. us breaking up monopolies because these corporations can get way too powerful. But that's more of an aside. Living in a city, you garner a different mindset because you really are reliant on like the protector to make sure that the guy doesn't snap and stab you. You just can't, it's hard to take care of yourself in the city. If you shoot and the bullet misses and hit somebody else, you're liable. Except now what's happening in New York. Police don't worry about that. Now in New York, I mean,
Starting point is 00:11:52 this has been this way in New York for a long time. Luke Kovsky had that video from like a decade to go, where a guy went on a stabbing rampage in the subway, and the cops were like, we are under no obligation to save lives. And so they stood back and watched as a dude was stabbing people, and some passenger intervened and stopped this murderous dude. And then after subduing the guy, and this dude gets all stabbed up, the cops intervene. And apparently there was a lawsuit over in the court's rule. Yeah, cops don't have to protect you. So now you end up in cities like New York with gangbangers and criminals and Mom Donnie saying release all the inmates from Rikers. he has more sympathy for the murderers than for the children that get murdered.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Did he say why he wanted to release the criminal? He said he went to Rikers and the day you visited it, someone killed themselves, took their own life because of the torturous conditions of Rikers. Oh, okay. Well, there's a different story. Fix the conditions maybe, but don't listen to. And so he said he wants new borough jails in every borough and that he would close down Rikers and release these inmates. But while he tries to defend himself in the campaign trail now saying, I'm not for releasing
Starting point is 00:12:52 all these prisoners. he has in the past said crime is a social construct we need criminal deferral programs instead where instead of going to jail you get released with an ankle monitor or something and he's called for replacing cops of social workers and defunding the police. So we know what he
Starting point is 00:13:07 actually wants. Now he's saying what he has to say to get elected. But show me a city that's Republican run. You know, even in Toronto like everything is downtown for the Democrats. The city that never sleeps like New York, the jobs that come with that, the restaurants, the washers, they all, you know, the jobs
Starting point is 00:13:25 they have to live, they need to have transit. They can't live out in the suburbs, but there, you know, any city in North America is usually Democrat. And the further you go from the city, the more Republican it comes. Is that like that in Toronto too? Oh, absolutely. But I said the services are there for the people that need it, that are all downtown, the transit's
Starting point is 00:13:41 there for them. They get, you know, there's all kinds of services for them. So that's why they're kind of congregated in the downtowns of these major cities. And the further you go out, you'll ask a farmer if he's a Democrat, you don't We'll find very of those, but that's historically the way it is. You show me one Republican city in the United States.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I don't think there is any. Yeah, I think for a brief period a few years ago, San Diego had a Republican mayor. But, yeah, all the urban centers are run by Democrats. And that's, you think, because of, as a phenomenon, because of, like, the reliant on public transport. Well, traveling, again, the jobs that come with these big cities, you need, you know, people to work in the restaurants and, you know, from the service industry to the dishwashers. And I always said when I was in politics, you know, we have to make it affordable. You can't have a guy come, you know, five miles to come in and wash dishes in downtown Toronto or downtown New York. You can't afford it.
Starting point is 00:14:32 You can't afford to take the transit. So they have to live. And it's what you need affordable housing to make the city's work, right? So, you know, historically, it's been Democrat run, very left-leaning in the city. And the people, the service is there for the people that need it. You know, the people that are less fortunate that are out there, you know, begging for money and panhandling. that's where the people are going to be. So that's where they kind of congregate, right?
Starting point is 00:14:54 Man, I'm thinking about Shea's rebellion after the American government was formed. And basically the farmers, after they went off and fought the revolution, they came back and they owed all this debt because they hadn't been able to run their farms to the cities. And the cities are like, we don't want your soft currency anymore. We don't want your food. We want hard currency. We need money because we need to pay back the French. So they try to take money from the farmers that they didn't have. And the farmers just revolted and went to the city and, like, stood outside courthouses, basically ready to pull.
Starting point is 00:15:20 ready to serve a real revolution again because the cities were trying to control the outlying territory probably since the dawn of man that's been happening they congregate they get centralized power and then they try and take over everything else i don't want to talk out of hand about the chinese because i don't really know how they're doing their central planning but you know with the right technology you can sort of try and take over your environment well i mean china has a really good or china has done a really good job of intruding into just about every aspect of the Chinese people's lives. Probably propping up Mamdani.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I wouldn't know. There are a bunch of crazy accusations about NGOs that have been funneling money. This is a big story, apparently. Soros is accused of funneling some 40 million or whatever through various NGOs that propped up, Mom Dani. I am not convinced he is popular as people outside of New York think he is. And so there's a lot of questions about this election, not just the polling, but the question of whether or not the, the,
Starting point is 00:16:20 Democrat machine will allow these far leftists to actually take over. I was wondering about that. This is a conversation that we've had a lot, right? The kind of the energy of the base is with the far left, but the Democrats have had as much influence and success as they have because they've been getting donations from people that are left-leaning, but they're capitalists. They have money. They're, you know, millionaires and billionaires that have given tons of money to
Starting point is 00:16:50 Democrat candidates. I mean, you look at Hillary Clinton's campaign raised over a, you know, raised a billion dollars to run her campaign. Barack Obama spent a billion dollars on his campaign. I'm not sure what Joe Biden spent, but it was more than Donald Trump. They're getting these donations because And they're organized and they stick together and they vote, right? The right seems as, you know, I have so many friends in Trump. They say, what happened? You know, how you didn't vote? You know, you have 30% people showing up for an election in your city. ridiculous. Yeah, but the Democrats, with the civil war that's going on in the Democrat Party, they're trying to figure out if they're going to have the support of these billionaires that were Democrats,
Starting point is 00:17:32 or if they're going to continue to leave the Democrat Party because the Democrat Party is becoming more hostile to people that have money. The more the Democrats focus on class warfare, the less actual big donors they're going to have, because those people are going to be like, well, I'm, I mean, I want to give money to Democrats because it makes me feel good because they're the nice party. But I'm not going to give money to Democrats if they're going to make policies like, you know, you have to pay a wealth tax every year on whatever money or whatever, you know, assets you have. That's a good point because if the liberal economic order is really a corporatocracy, which it seems like it's run by corporate giants, they don't want to empower a communist or a socialist
Starting point is 00:18:13 because that guy will try and take away power from corporations and give it to the state. So I can only imagine that they don't want him to be mayor. But maybe they want just the U.S. to fall. I'm thinking about like global money power, like Bank for International settlements, bankers. They want the U.S. to fumble so that a new system, a corporatocracy with a technocracy can come in through the World Economic Forum, corporate governance. They would like to see the U.S. fail. But I don't know if installing a guy that's semi-communist, socialists, I don't know what is, how he defines himself.
Starting point is 00:18:43 He's a socialist. He's a communist. He's literally tweeted from each according to their need to each. according to their ability. Let's pull up this story from the New York Post. Bombshell, New York City Election Eve poll predicts Zoran Mandani and Andrew Cromo Mayor Race will come down to the wire. Now, we got this from Kalshi.
Starting point is 00:19:00 The New York City mayor election has got Zoran Mamdani at 90%, Andrew Cuomo at 11, and Curtis Lewa at 1, which of course is greater than 100% for whatever reason. And I will say this, full disclosure at this today. I traded in, I purchased shares of yes for Andrew Cuomo, the independent. For two big reasons. First is this. From Kalshi breaking, Cuomo holds significantly more support inside of NYC than Mamdani per Kalshi data.
Starting point is 00:19:34 What you are seeing in the Kalshi trading data, 90% for Mamdani, these are people who are purchasing shares, meaning they are predicting Zohran. wins. However, that's outside the city. According to Kalshys data inside the city, among people who can actually vote and who know, Cuomo is ahead by 9%. Now, based on that alone, I looked at the nine to one odds, Zohran versus Cuomo, and I said, that is not correct. Quomo certainly is losing in the polls for the most part, but it is way closer than that. Now, this just means 90% of people outside and, well, combine with people inside New York and outside, they believe Zoran's going to win. Not that the polls reflect Cuomo may win. Quamo may be down by one point, and so
Starting point is 00:20:27 everybody just says, Mom, that is going to win. But here's what I think. I think all that matters to people inside New York, and they're giving an edge to Cuomo by 9%. Additionally, the question is, will the Democrat establishment allow a Zoran Mandani upstart to actually win against someone like Cuomo. It's going to come to voter turnout. I don't want the voter turnout is in New York for a mayor's race, but, you know, this has been in the media. I think you're going to get a big turn. I think you're going to probably see a record turnout for this election. Maybe. And certainly that is the forward facing question. Will people vote? My argument is actually the corrupt Wall Street machine ain't going to let a communist win in New York City and screw up
Starting point is 00:21:10 all their beautiful gains. Yeah, I agree. It's going to come down to voter turnout. So that's, you know, But that's it. I'm implying they'll cheat. I'm implying they're going to cheat. Not voter turnout. I'm saying that the powers that control New York's financial interests ain't going to let a communist win. It's too, it's bad news for them. It's bad news for their billions. He's talking about just taxing more and more people. All these people are going to be like, we will do whatever it takes to stop this guy.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And I put, I make that bet. That's the bet I make. I think I'm wrong. Well, no, no, I don't think I'm wrong. But I do think Mom Donnie still has the greater chance to win. that's fair. I like how you say you're like, this is what I think. I think I'm wrong, but I think that that would have been cool if you rolled with that. I thought the same thing about Trump. I thought there's no way they're going to let this guy become president again. Right. This is the third time. I was wrong. I had faith, maybe because I held the faith. That was part of it. I just thought like, how could it possible with with digital hacking voting machines, voter like carrying bags of votes
Starting point is 00:22:06 and all this like. Right. I think Mom Dani is likely to win. However, I think the odds that they have for Cuomo are way off. And what is it like? $100 of yes will net you like a grand. So I'm like, hey, you know, probably going to lose. Also, it's kind of nuts how you can basically just, I don't want to say bet, but trade on literally anything. I will also give you shout to call you.
Starting point is 00:22:35 They do sponsor the show when we shot them out in their predictions. But I do think it's incredibly insightful to track what people in this country. are thinking. And here's what I was thinking about it. These people who are purchasing on call sheet, they're not randomly buying. These are people who are researching their trades because they truly believe an event is going to happen. And you could see it today in one of the markets, which was SNAP benefits getting delayed. 98% said yes before announcement was even made. And then they announce Trump is delaying and reducing benefits, which the market accurate predicted because people are
Starting point is 00:23:15 betting to make money. I will say, however, it's pretty crazy because there are always people who buy the long shots. And so, if you wager on Zoran, like $100, you win like two bucks. But two bucks is two bucks, you know what I mean? You know, you put $2,000, you win $20. $20 to show. What is it?
Starting point is 00:23:33 Right, right. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. I mean, if you got $100 to spare instead of buying, instead of wagering on Mamdani, you should buy like some kind of stock that's doing well or something because that'll probably get you a little more profit than two bucks. Well, the question I got a few guys is, who's the establishment candidate? Zohran, the new establishment candidate? Or is it still Cuomo?
Starting point is 00:23:52 It's Cuomo. Yeah, I kind of feel like I agree with Ian. I think it is Cuomo. I do think that there's going to be significant pushback against Mom Dani. Even if he wins, there's going to be a lot of people that are going to be working against whatever his policy, you know, whatever policies he's trying to implement in New York, because there's a lot of people with a lot of money that don't want to see the kind of taxation
Starting point is 00:24:15 that, you know, Mom Donnie would be likely to implement. It's already super expensive to live in New York. There's already a municipal tax for living in New York. The people that make money in New York, I don't think that there's like a New York income tax, is there? Oh, yeah, yes. So if you work in New York, you have to pay a tax for, a tax on the income that you make in New York City, huh?
Starting point is 00:24:38 Yeah. that's that's crazy but i mean like you know i mean i i don't imagine the people that are making a lot you know people that make a lot of money are going to be they're going to look too fondly on that you have probably not going to be like oh i want to get out of here right away i think they're going to try to use their their resources and their connections to try to limit his his ability to implement his his policy you have the highest income tax combo rate uh in new york city for the entire country because they've got federal state and city income tax and i think the city income taxes like 3% or something.
Starting point is 00:25:11 And so it's just nuts. How much money they take from you. And then Mamdani is just a lunatic. It was funny because he's like, we're going to make the buses faster and we're going to make them free. And I was talking to my wife earlier because we're watching the news. And she's like, has someone mentioned where the money is going to come from for making the buses free? And I was like, of course not.
Starting point is 00:25:26 It's coming from upstate New York where my lake house is. It's like the taxes I'm paying up there are ridiculous. And the people all up in upstate New York say, we're paying for New York City. And that's what it is. If buses could be free, buses would be free, buses would be free. The reason they're not free is someone has to pay the people who fixes the buses, who drives
Starting point is 00:25:45 the buses, who coordinates for the buses. With the people that would just get on the bus and sleep because they have nowhere to go. You've got to keep those people off the bus. Hey, look, I'm going to when I finally run, I'm going to, not only the bus is going to be free, they're going to pay you. When you walk on the bus, you press the button,
Starting point is 00:26:01 a $5 bill comes right out. You get paid per mile that you stay on the bus. You can have a charge your pants while you sit. Your graphene pants. Store up your I have no idea what you're talking about. My point is, Zoran Mandani says free buses and they're going to go faster. Well, my buses are going to go faster than that, and they're going to pay you to ride them. Because the question of where the money, exactly.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Yep, the buses will watch your kids. Do you feel, Mark, do you feel like you subsidize upstate? Do you feel like you subsidize the city? Well, that's the feeling up there. I know when Como was there, all my boys in Rochester, they couldn't stand the guy. All the business guys said, but they said the taxes. I forget the guy's name from paycheck. I think he owned paychecks.
Starting point is 00:26:37 he was suing the city of New York. I forget where that went, but he was suing because the amount of tax money were paying up there is, it's ridiculous. I got an acre and a half up there, and I think I'm paying close to 8,000 U.S., which is like 13,000, 14,000, my Canadian money. For an acre?
Starting point is 00:26:56 An acre and a half on the water, right? I'm probably an hour. My place in New Hampshire is probably an hour and a half from the New York border, maybe two hours. I'm not sure exactly how long it takes to get across, to get across Vermont, but I'm right on the Vermont, New Hampshire border. I pay just a little bit more than that for 50 acres.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Yeah, it's crazy. But, you know, the guys up in Rochester, they just, they're flipping out like. You know, man, maybe this is the acceleration as part of my brain, but like maybe it would be good if Mamdami became, I was going to say, president. Mayor. He cannot be president.
Starting point is 00:27:28 So, okay, mayor, so that we can see what happens when you try and apply. Brandon Johnson. Brandon Johnson in Chicago. Been there, done that. We learned our lesson. we all thought that electing socialists would wake people up to how insane things are. But what happens is people just flee the city and the stupid people stick around and it entrenched communism.
Starting point is 00:27:44 And the people that stick around, they say, well, we just didn't do the communism hard enough. We have to do more. And people are fleeing the cities. In Toronto during COVID, you know, people started working from home. And they said, hey, we're going to move a couple hours outside the city of Toronto. And they're buying place and they're leaving. People are leaving. I tell people not to leave, you know, stay in your home.
Starting point is 00:28:03 But I was just in New York. And when we drove about 30. minutes out of the city, oh, I smelled New York coming, and it was disgusting. Coming through... Going from west to east across Jersey into the city through the... Yeah, it smells like sour milk. There's refineries
Starting point is 00:28:18 in Jersey. Part of the reason why it stinks like that is because you're going... On 95, you're going past a lot of the refineries and stuff like that. So look, New York smells like sour milk. Fair enough. I mean, all cities do. But like, I think, I feel like in New Jersey, like that part
Starting point is 00:28:34 of 95 in New Jersey, it smells you meekly bad because of the oil refineries that are going on there. So, yeah. Look, I'm not, I'm not particularly a fan of, of New Jersey. I was just getting, getting hell from Michael Knowles on X because I was, I was making jokes about New Jersey. But was he from New Jersey or something? I think he was born in New Jersey. Ah, that's a shame.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Look, Michael, don't, don't hate me too much. Yeah, I don't know. If Mom Donnie wins, it's going to be like Brandon Johnson. But I think Mom Donnie's a lot smarter than Brandon Johnson. and Brandon Johnson was like an accidental candidate. Mamdani is more like an evil guy. Some people I've talked with, they say he's retarded and evil, perhaps. I think he's just generally evil.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I can't tell. I've watched some clips and it seems like he enjoys the publicity, which is a problem. That's a red flag for me. I mean, you have to kind of enjoy publicity if you want to be a public figure, but I don't want my elected officials to enjoy it too much. I can't do anything about that. The bigger issue is that he's doing. really well with the 90 IQ and below class when he says things like free buses and
Starting point is 00:29:42 faster buses. Like, okay, I got to say it. I said it before, but really the faster buses thing is what gets me. Because it's something you tell a little kid. You know what I mean? Like, hey, I got you this little wagon and we're going to put these flame decals to make it go faster. Faster doesn't, you're like, wow.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Like in New York, that means you might be hit the wall quicker. Like you need more fluid traffic in New York as a whole, but that's not just the buses. Faster buses. Yeah, the idea. They're getting basically the stuff for free. I mean, if people give you free, you're going to love the guy. And I remember during, I forget, it was down the southern border when I forget what station was interviewing the people coming across the border, the immigrants coming across. And they're saying, who would you vote for?
Starting point is 00:30:22 And they're going, oh, Joe Biden, Joe Biden. Of course they're letting you in. They're giving you money, get on a bus. We're going to fly you to New York. We're going to fly you to St. Louis. We're going to fly to Wisconsin. Of course they're going to bully for. They're going to love you.
Starting point is 00:30:34 You come to the country. giving you, you know, put you on a plane. Let's jump to this story from the post-millennial millions may flee New York City if Mamdani elected mayor JL Partners poll. The poll found that 25% would consider packing their bags to head out, which would amount to $2.12 million. Yeah, consider is not the same as would leave, but a lot of people would. Around 765,000 New York City residents would be prepared to leave the big apple, according to
Starting point is 00:31:00 the poll. The current population of New York is on $8.5 million, which is way down, which is crazy. The poll found that 9% of New Yorkers would definitely leave the city. However, the poll also found that 25% would also consider packing their backstead out, which amounted to $2.12 million. The poll highlighted the alarm that he feel is Mamdani may become the next mayor of the Big Apple, and as previously called for defunding the police, has vowed to increase taxes on the wealth in other businesses,
Starting point is 00:31:26 a $30 minimum wage, as well as vowed to implement a number of other left-wing policies. The poll also asked what people thought the state of the city would be in in four years if Mamdani was elected. Some of the terms they used were disaster, hell, chaos, destroyed, and ischole. Those something for Mamdani, however, used the following for terms they thought the city would be like affordable, improved, hopeful, and changed. Additionally, 7% of those earning $250,000 or more a year would also definitely leave under
Starting point is 00:31:55 a potential Mamdani term, meaning a loss of tax base as the top 1% of earners in the Big Apple pay around half the tax base for the city. Okay, I will say this. Part of me does hope he wins. I know that we've learned our lesson with Brandon Johnson. I just kind of want to see it because he's talking about increasing the minimum wage of 30 bucks, which is the stupidest thing imaginable. It's something a seven-year-old comes up with.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Why don't we just give him more money than they have money for food? Oh, gee, why don't we think of that? That this guy's a retard. Then you're taxing the top 1%. They will leave. It's funny when the U.S. government tries to raise taxes on the billionaires, and then they all go to St. Kitts and Nevis
Starting point is 00:32:38 and renounce their U.S. citizenship and then become island dwellers with passports that can go anywhere. But it's a bit harder to do. It's extremely easy to leave a city, especially if you're a billionaire. So what's going to happen? Every single billionaire with real estate,
Starting point is 00:32:53 every millionaire with real estate, even people who make half a million, probably going to switch their residency to Florida, and as long as they spend more than half the year in Florida, they don't got to pay New York City taxes or New York state taxes. And I think we're going to see that. They'll still fly to New York periodically for business. They'll still own property.
Starting point is 00:33:14 But they are going to GTFO. I am willing to bet that if Mamdani is elected mayor, he will increase taxes. He will work with the city council to raise taxes. And then their tax revenue is going to drop because they don't understand the laffer curve. Kevin Mr. Wonderful. Kevin O'Leary. Yeah, he said he got his business out of New York already.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Yeah, boy. Well, that was when they tried seizing Trump's properties. Yeah. Yeah. That was crazy. He said, this is nuts. No developer's going to want to go to New York if you're going to lie to try and seize their properties. Yeah. And they did. They did try to seize Trump's properties. It was crazy. Like, you just need to rely
Starting point is 00:33:53 on the corporation, the corporatocracy to run your cities. I know that sounds horrible because we're supposed to be for the people by the people governance. But if the, if the corporations leave your big city, your big city is going to be a big, open, smelly, rotting cesspool without economy. And no one's going to want to go there because it's not going to be money to pay people to clean it up. It does feel like we are held hostage by the corporate, the corporate democracy, but. But they're creating the jobs. They're, you know, you've got the construction jobs on the development. You know, you need construction workers.
Starting point is 00:34:24 They're good paying jobs. You got, you know. And can we, I have a friend who lived in the Trump Tower is a good friend of my, very wealthy guy. He just took off and he moved to Florida. He said, I'm out of here. I'm done. I'm done with the Yorkians. The mom and pop shops that got hammered during COVID. We need a new market on Kalshi for if Zohan Mamdani gets elected, will they be forced to create a poop department like San Francisco? Years to prang.
Starting point is 00:34:54 People say they're going to move out. If they win, I'm going to consider moving. you know, look happened like when Trump won. Who said, like, Spring scene, he said he's moving out of town. But a lot of... How many, how many those, those stars that were moving out of the country? How many, how many moves? A lot of them did.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And this is crazy because... Ellen and Ellen, maybe. And there's a handful of others we've talked about, but the issue is leaving the country is hard. Exactly. Leaving a city is easy. Yeah. Very easy. Especially a city that's, that's, like, especially if you are in the north,
Starting point is 00:35:23 most people that are in the north, if they've got, you know, if they have access to a lot of money. They don't spend all winter in New York. The winter is, you know, personally, I'm not a fan of the winter and it's in New York, it gets cold. A lot of people are like, I get out of there for the, you know, as much as I can for the, for the wintertime. So if you're going to be like, oh, well, it's going to cost you a bunch of, you know, an X amount more dollars just to live here. It's, it's a situation where it's kind of like, well, that's the straw that broke the camel's back, you know. I only ever spent time in New York because I had to for work for business as an actor. I never wanted to be there.
Starting point is 00:36:01 It's like, I don't say hell on earth, but it is chaos. I mean, I'm not a city guy anyway. I'm not a city guy anyway. It's one of the greatest cities in the world, New York, to me. I got engaged there on New Year's Eve, Dick Clark when you. But it's like, you know, people love going New York, even Toronto. They compare Toronto as a mini New York, a little bit cleaner, a little bit slower than New York. But New York's a great city.
Starting point is 00:36:20 It really is. And it's just a shame to see this happening. It's a shame to see all these. in Seattle, what's going on? It's, it's, you know, I've been to Seattle before all that crap happened out there. It's like, it's so discouraging to see it happen. It's, I think driving in New York was what got me. Because my PTSD was kicking in.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I was like, I don't drive in New York. That's, that's right. I wouldn't even know. Foot traffic, there's beautiful. It's wonderful. Maybe some dirty parts of Brooklyn, you know, smell, but like Manhattan, particularly. If I have to go to New York, I still drive in. I don't, I'm not a fan of it, but, like, and I probably wouldn't take my,
Starting point is 00:36:51 I probably wouldn't take my Tesla. I'd probably take the Jeep. But, like, You know, even like when I go to New York, I'll drive in just because I don't like having to rely on trains. Then do you stick it in a garage and do everything from foot? Yeah, try to get around. And then like, where's parking? 25 minutes later, I think I found a spot.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Oh, no, it's a no standing spot. I used to just go and park down by where the label, the label, uh, the headquarters was. It's actually very easy to park in New York. This is a, just not during business hours. So at night it is, yeah. Around 6 o'clock, you can park wherever you want. Yeah. because everybody leaves.
Starting point is 00:37:25 And then you've got like an hour before it fills back up. It's that hour where everyone's leaving work and then coming back home from those who commute from New York. If you could put all your traffic underground, like Elon's boring company building these tunnels, so all Manhattan roads, if they were underground, I know we have the subway, it'd be hard to do. But if the surface was like grass,
Starting point is 00:37:41 and you could walk out of those buildings and it was clean and there wasn't traffic, honking, smelling. No, nobody's walking from like the financial district to Yopper Eastside. This is all just saying. I heard a lot of the Wall Street. It wasn't in a city. Texas. I've done up on it.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're leaving. Those Wall Street firms are saying, we're out of here. Our old team, we're going to Texas. Yep. You know, I don't, you guys are probably up on that more than me.
Starting point is 00:38:03 But if you... These guys start fleeing out of there. Like I said, I worked on the floor of the stock exchange when we trade on the floor, you know, writing tickets out now with the new technology now, you can almost trade, you guys are trading from home. The guys I still worked with, they're trading from home.
Starting point is 00:38:15 You can trade... If you work in finance in New York, and you have not prepared a contingency plan for a Zoran Mandani, mayor, victory, mayoral victory, you're a moron. However, if Cuomo wins, you buy yourself some time, but you look at what they're doing to the city. I think it's only a matter of time before you get a mom, Donnie. Yep. That's true, too. At least a young guy. Like, it's time, it's somebody young, that for sure. Cuomo's, what's 70 or something? The point that Tim's making is that, like,
Starting point is 00:38:42 if, because of the, the, how close this is likely to be, so even if Cuomo does win, there will be someone coming that has the same has similar policy proposals to mumdani even if it's not mumdani it would be likely that momdani would run again like you know whenever they they have another mayoral election um but this sentiment is something that is widespread in the u.s it's not just in new york right like this sentiment is is the reason why aOC has the influence that she does the sentiment is the reason why bernie had had the influence that he did because people people like that kind of left-leaning populism. I guess maybe we need a little more socialism. No, I guess we don't. Well, hell on earth could be if you went to a city and it was owned and run by a corporation. No, it would be better than, it'd be better than any. Yeah, you can leave.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And you can also like, you can go to a different place. You can decide you don't want to do business with that corporation or whatever. The government is the guys, or the ones with the monopoly on force. It is always worse to have a big government in control of everything. than a corporation in control of it. I don't know. And now the company was like... It's still bad if there's one massive corporation
Starting point is 00:39:55 controlling everything with private security marching around. Making you use their currency. So neither is good, but government's substantially worse because they're the ones that monitor you in your homes and force you to do things you don't want to do and they don't let you leave either like we saw in East Germany. Yeah, the government's supposed to just stop the corporation from becoming megacorp, but it failed.
Starting point is 00:40:15 It's not supposed to create pseudo-Megacorp. It is it is Megacororpor. That's what the government is. Like the idea that like the government is going to prevent the megacorp, the government already is the megacorp. And they're the ones with the monopoly on violence. They're supposed to stop like standard oil, what they did, a Rockefeller standard oil. They're supposed to break up monopolies. But they go overseas now.
Starting point is 00:40:36 There's no way to stop it. They're not really supposed to do that. Governments have, in my opinion, governments should have a very limited amount of power and there should be a very few specific things that they are allowed to do. And breaking up monopolies, to me, generally, there is not something that they should be doing. That only problem is, like, the East India Company. When you start to see corporations get so big, they become governments of their own. And then they use script instead of dollars. What happened to the East India Company?
Starting point is 00:41:02 Well, it controlled India. No, no, what happened to it? Why is it not still in control? I don't know how it fell up, but what it ended up turning into? Because it doesn't keep, it doesn't remain in power the way governments do. Corporation. Yeah, interesting. All the governments from back then.
Starting point is 00:41:18 are functioning. In fact, there's new ones emerging. But the company itself is gone. Oh, yeah, that's a good point. Why did it fail? There's another funny point that somebody made is that far right governments tend to slowly dissolve and far left, go nuclear, kill a bunch of people, and then go belly up. So like, you know, you look at Spain and it's like, the far right took over and then he died and they're like, I guess we'll have elections. The far left runs everyone to the ground, massacres millions, and then implodes from lack of human capabilities. The far left will tell you it's communist, but then they'll create vanguardist systems,
Starting point is 00:41:53 and then they'll keep telling you it's communist. And so they have to- They have to kill. I don't think you know what that means. They're not really communist. They kill to protect their power, whereas in the right, he's just straight up like, yo, I'm the power. And everyone knows ahead of time they're not lying to you.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And then when he dies, there's a power vacuum that everyone's been expecting. But on the left, they make you think it's not. They make you think it's normal to have this communist group. The problem with the left, Michael, Alice put it succinctly a couple years ago. Do you think some people are better than others? The left says no. The right says yes.
Starting point is 00:42:29 The view on the left is that billionaires are the same as they are. I mean, this is really the arrogance of the left. They look at Elon Musk and Donald Trump and they say, those people are stupid. And I'm sitting here being like, listen, you can call Donald Trump a lot of things. You can call him brash. but the man became a billionaire because he understood something. And these people, you ask these leftists, why aren't you a billionaire? And they go, because I'm not willing to be evil.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Like, no, it's because you're too stupid to navigate the system to make yourself wealthy and successful. That's the reality. You know what the funny thing is about the right? The right recognizes their own limitations. Not every single person. It's not absolute. There's a guy's a plumber. And he goes, listen, I'm just a plumber.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I understand what I can do with my job. I understand how much money I'm going to make. I'm not going to be Elon Musk. The left says, I'm a plumber. Why aren't I a billionaire? It's like, well, because you're a plumber, dude. Some people are these crazy intellects and workhorses that do things, and some people just aren't. Some people are really dumb, but work really hard and find success.
Starting point is 00:43:34 The number one factor was always perseverance. That's the problem with the left. They genuinely believe in a communist utopia where if it weren't for these parasite billionaires, everything would be perfect because they've never actually tried to manage a business. And they don't understand why HR exists. You know what I love is the people who complain about HR. And they'll be like, isn't it annoying that they make you watch these workplace, you know, guideline videos about sexual harassment or whatever?
Starting point is 00:44:02 And they think the corporations are just doing it. It's actually the law. And so they're like, we're legally obligated to have these. Our insurance companies requiring it. We're legally required to have insurance. So the people who run the companies only have limited control as it is. And these, my favorite thing about this is having tried to run, or literally having run numerous businesses even to this day, yo, I got to tell you, there are people with gumption and vision
Starting point is 00:44:28 and there are people who don't and to varying degrees are capable of doing certain jobs. I guarantee you, if you got rid of the billionaires, the entire country goes mad max. They're not billionaires because they're evil parasites. they're billionaires because they're smart, they work and they build organ they build management systems. Sure. And there are evil parasites that become billionaires and they can do immense amount of damage because when you have that amount of power, your, your actions are amplified.
Starting point is 00:44:56 But that doesn't mean it's the richness that's doing. If they're evil parasites, how do they get into such positions of power? Well, they might inherit it. They might become twisted through the process of getting their money. Like George Soros. Greed, betraying people in business. You didn't sign it or you sign it. or you signed what you thought you didn't and I don't care.
Starting point is 00:45:13 That is fake. That's not real. That doesn't exist. But getting someone to sign something they didn't understand? Yep. That is a trope. That is not real. I explain this all the time. You can manipulate people in business. No, I explain this all the time, dude. People think, and this is one of the things that I think separates, at least there's a scale of capability in running a business. If you live in the world where you're like, if it's written on paper and signed, it's law, you are going to hold your
Starting point is 00:45:41 yourself back because the people that are running systems aren't thinking in these terms and these terms are not correct. Elon Musk doesn't sit there and say, I am bound by these walls. Elon says, what must you do to get to point A from point A to point B? But I'll put it this way. If you trick someone into signing a contract, you know what's going to happen? They will not abide by the contract. And then you can try to sue them and a judge will say, are you joking and throw it out and you've got to pay their legal fees. But if you're not tricking them, you just don't read the contract. People don't, normal people like plebs, they don't have acumen and they don't have money for a lawyer. Ian, if you're a billionaire, right, and you're dealing with someone else who is on a similar level with you, that guy has a team of lawyers that's going to deal with his, with, with any kind of contracts.
Starting point is 00:46:26 When they're talking about the, or when we're talking about the situation that Donald Trump was in, right? So when he, he did the, what's it called the deal in Florida? right for Mar-a-Lago and there was the company the bank that he did the deal with right like they both said we are happy with this you you mean you mean the Deutsche Bank building in new york oh so yeah i'm sorry my he was building a building in new york and they argued that he gave the wrong square footage here's the here's the important they understand they're both sophisticated participants you don't get a sophisticated participant dealing with a pleb well if you're hiring them that's what i'm talking about you're not going to make a million dollars or billions of dollars as a bit like if you're a billionaire and you're just hiring someone let me let's
Starting point is 00:47:13 break it down ian if i said eon soon music contract i'll give you 10% of profits generated after cost and you went got it i didn't trick you if you then later go how come only getting 10% you tricked me i say no whether you understood or didn't isn't my problem i made you an offer right the ethics in good faith it's not like as a friend you'd be like hey this is the communist BS this is a friend if it was friends and you were talking about the guy you'd be like 10%'s too low they're going to offer you 10 you have to push back to get 20 or 30. But when you're the business partner, you don't tell them that ahead of time because you want them to take 10%. And if the person agrees to the terms, it's not evil at all. It's not evil at all. It's not cutthroat. This is this is communism.
Starting point is 00:47:51 This is my problem with communists is that I'm looking at the products that we make and let's just say skateboards. And I say, here's our cost to make it. Here's how much money we have to generate after the fact. We've got to pay staff. We need to have a rainy day fund. So we need to generate X amount of dollars per sale. I can offer you X amount of dollars per board. They go, okay, they sign the deal. Then when the money comes in and the business generates $4 million and they get paid out $100,000, they go, whoa, but how did you get $4 million? And you say, we got to pay insurance, we got to pay property taxes, we got to pay for products, we got to pay for marketing, we got to pay all these things. And they go, I think that's not
Starting point is 00:48:25 fair. You ripped me off. You're evil. And you took the risk. You took the risk. You put your house up, whatever you done. You put your money up on the table. They don't, right? And then they complain, I didn't understand. I was only going to get paid this much. if you think this is evil. If you are working with another, you're trying to do a deal with a company and you know, shit, if they sign with that other company, I'm not going to be able to get this deal. So you don't tell them about that other company.
Starting point is 00:48:47 You just get them to sign your contract really fast. And then later they find out there was another opportunity that you knew about. Why is that evil? People might say that that because it's just business. But in a human way, that would be a horrible thing to do to a friend, a person that you care about. So that's where they think it's like that would be you consider it evil
Starting point is 00:49:05 and how they're a cutoff business. for sure. I'm just arguing in the simple of so often a lot of people enter into contracts that they, you know, I just watch this movie called Dead Money with Emile Hirsch, and there's a really interesting legal question that arise at the end of the movie. Spoiler alert,
Starting point is 00:49:24 so the movie's only a year old, but you get a spoiler. I'll keep it light. Basically, there's two bad guys, and they're trying to steal, I'll use an arbitrary amount of money so I don't spoil the movie for you guys. They'll say there's a million dollars, and they say he's like, hey, I'm going to pay you $100,000 to do this job. The guy says, I want half. And he goes, half, are you nuts? Okay, fine, you can have half.
Starting point is 00:49:43 $500,000. Later, when they rob the joint, they come back with $3 million. And he goes, okay, now I'm going to give you your half a million. And the guy says, no, no, I said half. And he goes, no, half of the first number, we got extra. I'm giving you $100,000. Now he wants, you know, I'm sorry, he wanted $500. Now he's asking for $1.5.
Starting point is 00:50:00 And there's an argument over what was the actual terms. So that was an interesting way to, to look at the legal issue. The guy, the stupid guy is like, you said half. And he goes, no, you said half. And then I offered you a hundred. He said, yes. So you get a hundred. I'm sorry, 500. Whatever. You get the point. I'm going to say this before we move on in the next subject. The main point of this is when you say things like someone entered into a contract because they didn't understand it. And that's not a real thing. If you enter into a contract and I put something malicious or untoward or even unreasonable in it, the judge will rip that.
Starting point is 00:50:36 contract up in two seconds. If I said, Ian, if I made you sign a contract for music that also granted me power of attorney, the whole thing is going to get torn up in court. Judge is going to say that's a ridiculous contract. A lot of terms of service are ridiculous, but. And they all get torn up in court. If they get challenged, sometimes people just play along, they just go along with it to get along with it. Yes, but no, no one needs to challenge these things. Terms of service is the reason nobody reads them is because that nothing happens ever from them. The point is, if you were tricked into bad terms, those terms will be voided in a second. Yeah, that was probably a bad example of an evil corporate overlord, tricking people
Starting point is 00:51:12 into signing contracts. They just will, you know, need to no basis. If you didn't hear it from me, sign it quick, you know, false sense of urgency. That's done in business a lot. There's definitely what people can do in business to get ahead. This is the other thing a lot of people don't realize to. If I intend to a contract with somebody and then I thought those terms unfavor, you can renegotiate the terms at any point. At any point, you know why? All that matters is you get the balls to do it. So I've entered into contracts before, and then I'll keep the description of these contracts
Starting point is 00:51:47 light. Signed a deal, and then it turns out they were trying to poll revenue that I didn't expect them to pull, that they'd argued did fall to the terms. And so I simply responded very politely with, okay, well, you're never going to do that again. and we're going to make sure that's clear, it doesn't. And they said, well, I mean, Tim, I mean, you signed the contract. And I said, if you want to go to war, I will make you regret it. Let's be nice right now and say, we're not playing that game.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Okay, okay, no problem, no problem. So if you want to sit there and just say, Dret, you tricked me and you're taking my money from me, sure, people are going to rip you off left and right. But if you actually challenge any of these people, and never even goes to court. That's what I'm talking about. People will rip those people off left and right. Not everybody, but the opportunism and the human. human behavior.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And that's why it's even worse when a government has unilateral authority to put a gun in your mouth if you don't listen. Or a corporation. Corporations can't do that. I mean, the East India company did that for 150 years in India. You're talking about war in foreign countries. It was the biggest military on the planet. It was the biggest military on the planet.
Starting point is 00:52:46 You're talking about war in foreign countries. It was just conquest. You're talking about war in foreign countries. Talking about the British creating a corporation that became bigger than the British empire. And they weren't talking about, they weren't going to their citizens and stealing from them. They were just going to foreign countries and invading. You're talking about war.
Starting point is 00:53:00 in foreign countries versus contract law. They're completely different things. In the United States, we have constitutional protections and rights. Sure, they're eroding, but it is still always going to be better to have a corporation as opposed to a government, despite the fact the corporations are still bad. I think it's the same thing. It's just a different word. It just depends on the size of the military and how many people are running it.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Hey, Ian, just so you know, the East India Company, the rule of India ended in 1858 when the British Crown just said, we're seizing your property. Yeah. So it was the government that actually had the ability to say, hey, you're no longer in charge here. We're the ones that are in charge. They let them run for. And additionally, Ian, what you're arguing is that a totalitarian corporate authority, you're arguing it is a government. Technically, it's a type of government.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Then you're just saying government is bad. Oh, no, no, no, no. Totalitarian government is bad, whether it's corporate or otherwise. So there's not just a thing as a, so you're playing a semantic game. Maybe. I don't mean to be. But I think we are because we're both talking about totalitarianism really is the problem. Whether it's your government that you elected or a corporation that you didn't, if it's totalitarian. So you're talking about a totalitarian system that seized control and you're calling it a corporation.
Starting point is 00:54:18 I'm not at all concerned about Walmart violating my rights. Really? What about alphabet? A little bit, maybe. It's big corporations, monopolistic powers are bad. What's that? Big corporations of monopolistic powers are bad. No one from Google is going to come and put a gun in my mouth and steal my money from me. No one from Amazon, like Amazon isn't your enemy. Right?
Starting point is 00:54:39 Like an Amazon is a massive, massive corporation. They do business with like 300. They service like 300 million people worldwide. They have a couple million employees. Google is a is unique in that it is a technology company. And it's got so much access to information because of the secure. because people trust it with security things like so that way they can do banking and so that way they can they can have access to to passwords and stuff like that. But technology companies like that are unique compared to just about every other type of, you know, corporation in the world.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Yeah. Let's let's move on. I'll jump to the story from CNN. The Trump administration will provide only half of usual food stamp benefits in November. It has been announced, ladies and gentlemen. some 4.65 billion from the SNAP contingency fund will be obligated to cover 50% of eligible households current allotments for November, according to a sworn statement. Hey, that's the weaning off of the system that we had talked about. The decision came after a federal judge in Rhode Island
Starting point is 00:55:46 ordered the USDA last week to either start providing full November benefits, two recipients or partial benefits if the agency opts to only draw on SNAP's contingency fund. I will add, the court order literally says if they choose to do it. So the court didn't actually get a hard order. It said the funds are available and if they choose, they can pull these funds and pay it. It did, however, say, if they are going to do it, they have to do it now. So here's the question. Do we think the government will open? Now, I've talked to some people in government, and they think it's going to be till Christmas that may remain shut down. And if that actually happens, it ain't going to open after Christmas because Congress going to go on vacation.
Starting point is 00:56:27 So then what happens? They're not calling a session into negotiations. They're not calling a session into this. Trump is saying, end the filibuster. Democrats won't budge. There is a decent probability that the government arrains shut down into the new year. Oops. So what happens to food stamps? Trump only has one month that reduced rate to pay. I mean, it looks like that they're going to, they'll be able to put a band-aid on it for a little while, but, you know, if the day- I think they should shut it all down. We're like no more. I mean, I'm, I'm not pro food stamps. The federal government shouldn't have these policies anyways. If the states want to do them, that's fine. But the federal government shouldn't be in the business of having these types of policies. People can,
Starting point is 00:57:07 people who really need it can go to their local food banks, NGOs, or churches, or stand outside of a supermarket and ask for help from those willing to provide it. That's WIC. WIC is the ultimate program. It's not WIC, but it's more like if you really need it. Like, food stamps are just if you can afford. Me telling people to go stand in front of a supermarket and beg is very different from a government program that takes my money with a gun to my You don't want solicitors in front of grocery stores. Like, you don't want people. That's like dirty, dirty where you flee the city for.
Starting point is 00:57:36 I would rather, I would rather, no, because what you're talking about are, I, so hold on, hold on. You would rather be forced by the government taking your money than just have people standing outside the supermarket asking you to please give it. Well, what do you, when you say, I mean, I've had people beg and when you say no, this is why you ignore them when they ask you, because if you look at them and say no, they get, they can get aggressive. And then you're like, oh, shit, I've engaged. Oh, yeah? It's West Virginia. I don't care. Well, we're talking about cities right now. I mean, maybe we see this stuff in West Virginia, but... If people...
Starting point is 00:58:08 I love this argument that Democrats proposed paying criminals. Have you guys heard? Remember this one? They were saying... One of the policies proposed by the left was to pay criminals not to commit crimes. That if you get convicted of a crime, upon release, they would say, we'll give you $500 a month if you don't commit another crime. If you get caught for any crime, you'll lose these benefits and go to jail. And the reason why was they said it costs more money to incarcerate them. So we actually save money by offering them cash not to be criminals. And it's just like, yes, that's called perverse incentive.
Starting point is 00:58:40 And that means you'll convince a lot of people to at least commit one crime so they can get on the no crime program and go back to not committing crimes, getting paid forever. And then once the no crime benefits run out, they'll commit a crime again and then get free money. I ain't playing that. And so this is where we're currently at. There are people who genuinely need food stamps. I recognize that. And I'm for food stamps. I am.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Right now, I am not for the corruption. And we've got way too many morbidly obese people getting welfare. So right now I'm saying purge the system, start it all over. I was thinking if you did that, you can't buy garbage with it. You can only buy the super healthy things that say how that would disrupt our economy. Because I think these corporations rely on the subsidies from the food stamps to pay their bills. I'm in favor of that. Here's what we say.
Starting point is 00:59:25 EBT food stamps, stamp, whatever you want to call it. only be used to buy fresh produce. Yeah, that's kind of like WIC. That's why I brought up WICR. WOME, fresh produce, nothing else. If you look into the WIC program, it's for mothers, basically, with baby, women, infants, and children, and it's only for eggs, bread, cheese, milk, things like basic beans. I think this would be fantastic, actually. And what they should propose is, right now, I think weaning off of it is good, and now we're
Starting point is 00:59:50 at half the levels, fantastic. They should say, think about what would happen to our economy. if the government subsidized people's food, but only fresh vegetables and meats. More corporations would start making. You guys have the breakfast programs here for the kids in schools when they go to school in the morning? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:07 All the schools have that? Lunch for sure. Yeah, reduced rates or whatever. When kids go to school, there's food for them at the school. At lunch. So we have in, I can speak for Illinois. They had for lunch free and reduced.
Starting point is 01:00:21 If your family was poor, your lunch was free. if your family was not that poor, you get reduced. But here's the trick. What old breakfast? Like breakfast is the most important meal the day for some of these kids. I can't, for a fellow, I can say I did not see any schools I did breakfast because... With the breakfast programs, which to me, that's a pretty important for the kids, right? You know what the secret was to Chicago public schools?
Starting point is 01:00:42 You just say free. Oh. So the way it works is you would pay for lunch with money and then or a ticket, you'd like, if your family paid, you get your lunch ticket or whatever. You'd go through a line, then they'd be like, they got pizza, mashed potatoes, corn, put it on your tray. Then you hand them your ticket. If you're reduced, you have a green ticket. And if you were free, you said free.
Starting point is 01:01:04 So guess what everyone did? Free. Yep. That's it. Oh, humanity. I remember it was crazy being in like sixth grade and we'd go on the line and the other kids would just go, I'm free. Yep. Because their parents didn't qualify, so they just not pay and just say free anyway.
Starting point is 01:01:18 But the funny thing is we actually had pseudo. breakfast at my public school because I despise public school so much. Instead of doing recess, my school decided to do recess right before the day started as a technicality. Yep. So recess was like 7.30 to 8. So instead of having recess, you just show up to school at 8 and then there'd be no recess and you get out of school at 2.30, whereas recess used to be from other schools like At noon, everyone goes in place for a half hour to, you know, get it out of their system. Nope. That's not the way that it.
Starting point is 01:01:55 So what happened is you could come for breakfast, recess and breakfast, and they had the Super Donut. You guys remember Super Donuts? No. No, you don't know that one? You don't remember Super Donuts? Oh, man, you guys, someone restarted the company. Super Donut was a public school lunch and breakfast item that, you know, we have when we were kids. With, like, stuff in it, maybe ham or cheese?
Starting point is 01:02:14 It was just a donut. Literal donut. Just a donut in a package. And everyone loved it. and a company brought him back, and they're like, just like when you were a kid, everything you'd love from grade school. You know, if with a rebuilt Wick, or not Wick,
Starting point is 01:02:25 the food stamps, like, RFK's got this agenda of what he wants people to be eating, and if they could somehow say these foods particularly are going to be on the reintroduced food stamp program, you can get olive oil. You can get avocado oil and coconut oil, but you can't get any other oils. It would destroy the corn oil industry.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I know. I know. They don't want to do that. I don't think that it would destroy the corn oil. I don't think so. I think big soybean oil and corn oil and seed oil and all. The only thing that would destroy the corn oil industry would be ending corn subsidies. They should be given out healthy food.
Starting point is 01:03:02 If you got food stamps, I remember the debate at council, we made the companies put the calories up on the boards at the McDonald's, whatever, right? I agree with that now. I didn't really want to vote for it when it came before, but, like Kim said, a lot of obese people out there eating stuff, not well-educated. I don't think the calories like, you know, you go to the fast food restaurant
Starting point is 01:03:23 Taco Bell and it's like a taco and it says 190 cows. I don't think it does anything. Because one of the problems that we've seen, I think one of the most devastating let me put it this way. There's a guy named Norman Borlaug have you guys ever heard of him? I have, but I don't know who he is. They say that he saved a billion lives
Starting point is 01:03:39 because he, I believe he was researching wheat and he figured out how through artificial selection to increase crop yield by four times or something that effect. However, the increase in crop yield does not increase nutrition because soil nutrition remains the same. And so what ends up happening is you get an increase in starches with no increase in nutritional value. What happens then? People have to slam boxes of craft macaroni and cheese just to feel full. People need to eat whole boxes of cereal and they still don't feel full
Starting point is 01:04:08 because you're not getting the actual nutrition your body needs. So now people are getting fatter and fatter and fatter and fatter and they're hungrier and hungrier. Meanwhile, for me where I'm able to buy real food and healthy food and organic food, I got to tell you, man, my wife, she made pork belly, I don't know what you call it, fried pork belly, or baked, baked it. And four pieces of these little things, I'm full. I'm like, well, I could not eat anything else. Protein, high fat filling.
Starting point is 01:04:38 And then what did we have alongside of some vegetable? I can't remember what does she make. It's those saturated fats is so important. And that means that the fat is carbon. It's a strand of carbon. when it's saturated, that means it's surrounded by hydrogens. It's saturated with hydrogens. That's super important because it holds the electrons inside the fat.
Starting point is 01:04:52 And that helps yourself. If it's unsaturated and it doesn't have the hydrogens, the electrons go flying off the fat. It messes up your endocrine system. It messes up your mitochondria. Whatever the case. You need to get saturated, healthy saturated fat. I could probably eat 20 pancakes for breakfast without getting full. It just carbs do nothing for me.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Nothing. You give me a little bit of sausage, and I'm like, the protein that fills you up. But people are buying this garbage empty starches. Search called it golden wheat? Is that, like, a technical golden, oh, your thing, the golden rice. It wasn't golden rice more nutritional? Yeah. So anyway, let's just say this.
Starting point is 01:05:35 How about right now the compromises? We'll keep EBT going, but you can only buy produce. Nothing else. At least a start. You could reintroduce the program. Fresh raw meats. No sea. seasoning, no spices. None of that. No chocolate. No drinks. You got water coming out of the faucet. Drink that.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Salt for sure. Maybe honey. You get your sweeteners. I don't know about salt. Why salt? Goes with everything. You need it. Salary. That's where the word salary comes from. Nah. It's a Roman thing. They used to pay their salt for salt. It's so valuable. If you're going to give a meat, you got to give them salt. Otherwise, you're going to give them salt and meat, and it's too much salt. I don't know. I'm torn on the salt thing because you need salt. So maybe. But no pepper, no crushed red pepper flakes, no saffron. No, you go to the grocery store and EBT only gets you fresh fruit and vegetables and fresh meat. That's it, nothing else.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Just beans and rice. Beans and rice are a good one to sell. No, I'm just kidding. There shouldn't be an EBTA. Let's states do it. The federal government shouldn't be doing it at all. Well, the reason I say this is as a way to wean off the system. And it also subsidizes healthier foods and it weakens the companies that produce garbage foods.
Starting point is 01:06:42 So this will reorient as we wean the system down into people eating healthier foods. Yeah, and corporations reformatting to build healthier foods to create them and produce them. That's a good idea. Indeed. I'm sure that has some unseen consequences on the system, but I think that's the direction we should head. Well, we solved that problem. Thanks, Phil. You look now, by the way, did I tell you that?
Starting point is 01:07:08 Pardon me? You look good. Thank you very much. I'm surprised that I look at considering how little sleep I'd be. Look like you lost a little weight. It's possible. Raising a newborn. It's possible.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Sorry to interrupt. You're about to say something prolific I got in your way. No, I probably wasn't going to say something prolific. I'm going to go to the bathroom while you go to the bathroom while you go. Let's jump to this story from The Mirror, Nancy Pelosi, at the ripe young age of 85 will reportedly not seek re-election in 2026. No, but she's so young. She has so much. so much of her future and career ahead of her at 85 relative to the rest of these people running for preface.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Who's that lady who's 88 and has dementia and is she running for re-election? I have no idea. Let me pull that one up. But as for Nancy Pelosi, I mean, we all know why. Like, she's made enough money in the stock market. It's about power. What was your, the politician in California, the lady, she was in her 90s? She was in a wheelchair.
Starting point is 01:08:04 She just passed away. I have Feinstein. I had Feinstein. Like, what is she doing there? What is she doing there at 85? We always talked about term limits when I was in office in Toronto. Okay. I think if you have a four-year term, you can run at 69 years old.
Starting point is 01:08:19 As soon as you land in the 70s, you're done. So there's Eleanor Holmes, Norton, 88-year-old delegate non-voting member from D.C. She's 88. She filed to run again in 2026. And the D.C. police report listed her as having early stages of dementia. and noted she has a house manager with power of attorney. That's a joke. Like I said, like I said, you land in your 70s.
Starting point is 01:08:45 You're 609. You get wrong. You're done. I like that idea. You're not in touch with young people, but it's all about power. Why are they there? What's the, at what age should we stop allowing people to drive? I think that depends.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Well, it depends on the individual. They should have to go for tests, I think, probably. We have that in Canada. Oh, yeah? for a test after, I think it's 85, you've got to go and, you know, you've got to go a driving test, you've got to, you know, pass your test. I think once you hit 80, you should go and you should have to be, you know, have to go back for a test unless you have a reason to be 85 and in office.
Starting point is 01:09:19 No, not at all. You know, you're not in touch with the, with what's going on with the youth. And it's just a joke. But as for driving, I think unless you, like if you have a self-driving car, like a Tesla or something like that, then fine. But otherwise you need to do. Everyone's different. It's, you know, everyone's different. Yeah, that's why you have the test.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Yeah, you know, 85 year old could be, you know, way better than. driving, then somebody's... I suppose it's a question we want you to ask because we're going to have self-driving cars in a couple of years. All made in Canada. Are they all made in Canada? No. No.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Tesla's the most American made card currently right now. I like all tariffs. I think we should tariff everything. No more imports, just gone. Unless it can't be made here at all. Well, hang on. Come on, Tim. So your number one trading partner is Canada.
Starting point is 01:10:07 And me being in a trucking company, some of these parts across the border, three or four times they go back and forth. It's, you know, our premier, which is our, like your governor, Doug Ford, he's a good friend of mine. He talked to me a day. He wants to get a deal done, right? And, you know, we're pushing on a string. We put those ads across during the World Series,
Starting point is 01:10:26 and President Trump got all ticked off and stopped the negotiation, which is, to me, it's ridiculous. It's like we're trying to push on a string now, right? So I guess... But it's, you know, we have the... aluminum. Any tariff put on the United States is a tariff on the people, right? And we're better together
Starting point is 01:10:43 than apart, that's for sure. And I'm not in the weeds on the tariffs, like, in that, but if we're screwing the United States on tariffs, let's sit down and negotiate it. What does... For the President say, no, I'm not going to talk to Canada. I'm not going to talk to them right now. It's ridiculous. Why is it ridiculous? What do we need?
Starting point is 01:11:02 He's not the only one playing to his base. We have our governor, Doug Ford, our premier, who is playing to his base. We have our prime minister has to play to his base. We just can't roll over to President Trump. Sure, sure. I support a lot of things he's doing.
Starting point is 01:11:14 But Canada and U.S. together are much better than being a part. What is the U.S. need from Canada? Lumber. Lumber. Our minerals. Lumber. Our lumber.
Starting point is 01:11:25 It's crazy. And, you know, people are getting ticked off in Canada. I said, you know, you may think it's very small, but all the border states, you know, like in Buffalo and Kingston, Niagara Falls, all across the border. across this country, they rely on Canadians coming across.
Starting point is 01:11:40 And I cross the border quite a bit. And there is nobody. There's lineups to cross. There's nobody crossing the border. I was talking to somebody in Florida at the TD Bank. I was telling Charlie before we came in here, they're selling their places in Florida. People are just, they're really ticked off about what's going on.
Starting point is 01:11:56 And listen, you know, it's, it's, Canada, the United States has been friends for a very long time. And I go back to, you guys are all too young for this, the Canadian caper. Anyone know what the Canadian caper is? No. Back in Tehran in 1979, Iran was coming into your embassy, and we took six of your embassy workers, hid them in our embassy for three months,
Starting point is 01:12:20 had them, lose their American accents. We worked with the CIA. We came up with this crazy movie, this article called Argo. And we got them out, right? Well, so we don't need Canada for aluminum. In fact, because of our trade with Canada, we've become dependent on Canada. So I'm in favor of the tariffs. Estimates are within 10 to 15 years, we can get off of our Canadian dependency for aluminum.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Okay, well, let's talk about it. Let's just don't just turn the tap off because right now, the tariffs are a tax on the U.S. people. Who's paying for it? So who's paying for the tariff, Tim? Like the tariffs are on the American people, but we're stronger together. And I said, you know, we want America to bring all these manufacturing jobs because we have, you know, the minerals. Why should the U.S. not develop its own aluminum industry? If you did, we even make Canada stronger too, because you don't have everything you need.
Starting point is 01:13:13 We have it. So what's the argument for the U.S. to say, instead of developing our own aluminum industry, we'll trade with Canada and then have to have these negotiations? Well, you have to have the negotiations now because there's no trade. Like, it's crazy. And the problem is we should have never become dependent on Canadian aluminum. But that's happened. That has happened. thing we can do is incentivize the industrial industrial development in the U.S., which tariffs will help do.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Listen, there's a whole bunch of different tariffs. I'm not going to get into that, but I said Canada and the United States have been our allies for a very long time where your best friend, your neighbor, your largest trading part, our Ontario alone, like, it was like your state. If we were our own country, we'd be your third largest trading part behind China and Mexico. So the issue I see is that this gives foreign countries influence in our nation. This is a really great example. So pulling up the data, the United States produces around, I think, 18% of its aluminum. And the reason is we've not developed our own industry, which would take 10 to 15 years and $20 to $30 billion to produce American. Where do the raw materials for that? The United States, we could do it.
Starting point is 01:14:24 It would take 20 to 20 to 30, 15 years. Where's the raw materials to make the aluminum? Where is that coming from? The United States. in our own internal territories, we could set up the mines. Where's the aluminum mines in the United States? Where are they? Not built yet.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Where, like what state has aluminum? Okay, sure. Let's, let's, Canada, the only, the only region of the North America's civilization when a resource appears. You know, President Trump's, he's talking about Canada. It's ridiculous. You know, you had the Operation Yellow Ribbon also that, you know, during, during 9-11, where all those planes landed in Gander, Newfoundland. We took 6,000 U.S.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Arkansas. people's homes. We put them, the population of Gander is 10,000. We took 6,000 U.S. citizens and put them like, we're your number one friend. So, you know what? Negotiate hard on the terrorists, but don't be treating Canada like we're some piece of up off the street. It's ridiculous and it's uncalled for. But right now we're pushing on a string. I'm not going to talk to Canada the tariffs right now. It's, to me, it's a child. I support a lot that your president's doing, but I'll tell you, it's, it's not good for either country. I thought it was like, at first I was like, what's this rhetoric where he's like, we're going to
Starting point is 01:15:27 invade Canada? We're going to take, invade Canada. We're going to take over. for Canada's like, dude, first of all, have respect for other humans. Don't talk down like there's some bitch. Like, yo, bro, this is our neighbor. If there is an invasion from China, you better believe Canada, the battle's going to happen in Canada. Guys, guys, guys, Canada does not mine aluminum ore boxite. It imports every single ton from Guinea, Brazil, Australia, and China. Okay. The United States has Arkansas to mine, but still requires imports beyond that. Why are we dependent on Canada to import from Guinea, Brazil, Australia, or China.
Starting point is 01:16:04 We need to crank the tariffs up 10x. This is insanity. We got a middleman with a foreign country for our aluminum when we could be going straight to Brazil. Why don't we just import from Brazil directly? Part of it's because it's dirty. The production is dirty. You saw East Palestine when they dumped that.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Cost, you know, transportation costs. But now it's getting sent. This is the biggest problem I've had the whole time and why I've supported the Trump tariffs. skateboards is a really great example. And I don't care if you don't care about skateboarding. It's an example of industry. We get lumber from the Pacific Northwest and from Canada, North American rock maple.
Starting point is 01:16:37 We put it on ships and send it to China so that Chinese peasants can make skateboards and send them back to the United States so we can sell them $5 cheaper. It is the stupidest thing imaginable because companies knew that Chinese peasant labor was cheaper and they didn't want to pay American workers so they exported all of these products in the stupidest way. It's actually more expensive to do, but the labor is dirt cheap. The idea that we're going to import boxite,
Starting point is 01:17:04 I'm sorry, that Canada imports it, and so it goes to Canada, then gets refined, then sent to us, it's stupid. So maybe if the U.S. build its own refineries, mines in Arkansas where it can and imports the rest directly from the miners in Guinea, Brazil, Australia, or China, we will save money in the long run. How long is that going to take
Starting point is 01:17:22 for that to happen? 10 to 15 years. 10 to 15 years. 10 to 15 years. So in 10 to 15 years, and listen, we are probably too reliant on the United States, but that's 10 to 15 years out. What are you doing right now? I'm a long-term investment kind of person. People in the U.S.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Indeed. The people, right? Yep. And this will, how insane is it that Canada imports box site than the U.S. imports from Canada instead of us importing directly? And so this argument that tariffs are attacks on the people is a, I'm sorry, it's a meaningless statement. The issue is free trade has been detrimental to the self-sufficiency of every nation that's engaged
Starting point is 01:17:59 in it. And now we are wasting a ridiculous amount of fossil fuel energy to ship all this garbage all of the world for no reason other than creating dependencies. I'm opposed to that. I think we should have our own steel plants, our own aluminum plants. I think that we should have our own skateboard factories and we should be built. We should have things inside the United States so we can be self-sufficient. The point of the tariffs is to say,
Starting point is 01:18:24 If you want this product made by Chinese peasants or from Brazil or whatever, it's going to be more expensive than if people in the United States do it. And so if people want to buy their TEMU products, by all means, face your tariff. Or what will happen in the short term is a lot of new investment into new factories in the United States. And within 10 to 15 years, we could replace Canada as the producer of aluminum for the United States. We don't need them. So indeed, and I don't care how long it takes. I don't see an argument for being dependent and forced into negotiations with another country, especially when you've got Canada in, what was it, was Ontario where they're running these
Starting point is 01:19:01 commercials attacking Trump and Reagan, using Reagan. I mean, it's offensive. We don't need it. But Tim, like our politicians are playing to their base like your president's playing to his base. Like, you know, they just can't roll over and say, oh, yeah, you know, Trump, it's, Canada's the same as you. I tell you this. Half the people like Trump, half the people don't like Trump.
Starting point is 01:19:19 But our politicians are our premier, which is our. Doug Ford. There's no one wants to have a deal more than him. But he can't sit back and take it, right? If you're, if it... We shouldn't be treated that way. We shouldn't be treated that way. We shouldn't have to put those freaking commercials on the World Series.
Starting point is 01:19:34 Why did that? I mean, that's... Imagine you want a book deal or you want a record label deal. Or you want to get signed by a professional sports team. So instead of going there and saying, I will be the best guy you've ever signed, I will work twice as hard for you. Trust me, I want this deal and I will do whatever it takes. Imagine if instead of doing that to get signed by an NBA team,
Starting point is 01:19:51 you put up a bunch of billboard saying F these guys, F those guys, sign me around. We've been to Washington on many. Our prime minister was down there, the former prime minister. Our teams have been down to Washington. I know a personal friend as a member of parliament. He's been to Washington. There's been many meetings that have been to Washington. I'm saying if we're screwing down the tariffs, let's sit down, let's negotiate it.
Starting point is 01:20:09 But don't cheat Canada like some piece of shit off the street because we're not. We've had a longstanding friendship, relation. Through many wars, Canadians didn't get drafted like you guys get drafted here. The Korean War, the Afghan War. You talk about Libya, Rihondah, we've been there for you. We've been with you guys all along. So, you know what? If we're screwing you on the tariff, let's negotiate it.
Starting point is 01:20:31 But don't treat can't like some piece of shit off the street. Because there's a lot of stuff. There's three million Canadians in Florida, right? And I have many friends here in the United States. And instead, it's... You know what I do? I agree with you. I would never treat someone that way in business.
Starting point is 01:20:44 I would simply shake your hand and say, deals are off. All trade is canceled. Thank you for your time. Have a nice day. I wish you the best. Good luck with your aluminum factories. Listen, I'm not just talking about aluminum, but that's going to take... I know, peanut butter.
Starting point is 01:20:57 So listen, let's have the conversation, but just, you know, the way it's going down now, it's not right. And, you know, we want a deal, but it's like pushing on a string right now, so... It seems bizarre that there would be even an inkling of hostility between these two countries. Exactly. The ultimate partners on Earth, like, more close than England and England and the United States. We fought side by side in many wars with you guys, and I said, you know, Gander, Newfoundland, when 9-11, when down. They put all the planes down. Canada News had 10,000 people. We took 6,000 Americans, and they brought them in people's homes. I don't, I don't think.
Starting point is 01:21:29 We're friends, like we're friends, right? And that's fine. I don't think Canada should be in a position where they're, they want these trade deals either. What do you think about it? We're probably to blame too. We've probably been too relying on the United States, and I'm the first guy to admit that. But let's sit down now and figure it out. But, you know, what do you think about, I'd rather talk about terrorist. I just want to ask you a greater unification between Canada and the United States. I don't like seeing Canada having a king, like the king of England.
Starting point is 01:21:55 King, what's his name, Charles? It's symbolic. It's, you know. Well, technically he can get parliament. I mean, he's the king of Canada. It's fucked up that there's a king. You got a one-track mine, you. I just, they are our allies.
Starting point is 01:22:08 They're like our greatest. Hold on, hold on. The king Charles gave back Canada. Yeah, it's just, he gave it back. He gave it back to who? To the, what is it, the Anishibig? Anishabig. Anishabig?
Starting point is 01:22:20 And the Algonquin. That's not even a job. He gave it back. It's just symbolic. It's not even. But it's literal. He's the king of Canada. No, he's not. Yeah, literally, if you look up, King of Canada, he is literally the King of Canada. It's a symbolic thing. That's not even new. That's not even here. I feel like people are, Canadians are tricked into saying that and Australians are tricked
Starting point is 01:22:37 into saying that, but he could get rid of your. No, never happening. Just like we're not going to be the 51st state. But like I said, let's sit down and talk about it. Is there are there articles in the Canadian government that would allow King Charles to disband its parliament? No, I don't believe there are. There are. I'm not into that. The question of, there are.
Starting point is 01:22:55 That's quite literally what Charles is King of Canada. And that's a different question. That's a different argument. Again, there's another country, England and Canada are great friends, right? All three, England, Canada, U.S., always together, where we go in the world, we're the first guys behind you. And like, I said, there's a lot. I do think it's wild to be like, we do have a king, but he doesn't tell us what to do. It's like, what you have a king.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Like, he's buddies with the World Economic Forum and, like, where was he during? COVID. Like, where is he to stop the street riots in England right now? Like, haven't, are, you're supposed to your best friends to the north, but if you're going to subserve to some king, like, fuck that. No, we need allies. We need independent allies. You keep asserting this. I agree. I agree with Ian. I actually think King Charles is a Davos, W-E-F guy. That's why the, the UK and his mom and his family, has imported the third world just endlessly and why they lock up anyone who dare speak out because you have a king And that's his ideology.
Starting point is 01:23:51 And I talk to people from the UK and they say, oh, yeah, King Charles is totally on board with Islam and bringing these people in. And then you look at Canada and they're very much doing the same thing. And so I'm like, is it a coincidence that your king wants it and it's happening? It's crazy to be like, no, no, no, the king has no control, despite the fact we are doing exactly what he wants. No, no, that's not happening. Not happening. Well, it is happening.
Starting point is 01:24:13 I want to get back to, is he making it happen. Canada, U.S. relations should be, you know, not the way it's going now. I'll tell you, they said, a lot of these border towns, Buffalo, Lewiston, Kingston, you go right across this country, this border. They rely on the Canadians that come over. They come over, Canadians are over there. Every weekend, every, you know, the tourism dollars, the Canadians probably. They're basically the same cities on both sides. Exactly, and they rely on us. And the same is true for.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Niagara Falls. They have all the outlet malls there. They're dying. The Canadian side's better, by the way. The same is true for the southern border? The Canadian side of Niagara Falls is better. There are cities that form on both sides in the U.S. and Mexico, in the U.S. and Canada. But that's different as to the general tariffs and what the U.S. is doing with trade.
Starting point is 01:24:56 I think that for too long we've outsourced all our jobs and heavily relied on the petro dollar. And we've created a fat, lazy generation. And there's no kids. I don't disagree. So what we need to do is I think the U.S. shouldn't be able to rely on Chinese peasants or cheap products from Canada, Mexico or otherwise because we now have, we have, we have, we have, two phenomenon. We have a fat, lazy, entitled millennial generation and a near non-existent alpha generation. Gen X's somewhere in between. Gen Xers are doing all right. Boomers,
Starting point is 01:25:27 they got their issues. But here's my prediction. My prediction is, you know, all these people right now are, let's do this, actually. Let's do this. Let's jump to the story. We got this from the New York Post. Heritage Foundation in revolt over Tucker Carlson defense after controversial Nick Fuentes' interview. Futsi with literal Nazis. Apparently, I think they're like reassigning one of these guys. They say internal chats review of the post show high-ranking members of the Heritage Foundation told each other privately how embarrassed and disgusted they were by Kevin Roberts' ridiculous decision to come to Carlson's defense over the sit-down with Fuentes, who has expressed anti-Semitic views and denied the Holocaust happen. I'm disgusted by this and don't understand how this premeditated and orchestrated response could come out of one of the biggest think tanks in the world.
Starting point is 01:26:12 One wrote, well, I'm going to tell you this, I think, I was talking to some older guys, I'll put it this way. and this old boomer guy, I assume if you ever heard of the phrase, Zumerwaffe. No, I haven't heard of that one yet. Phil, we don't know. The other night. Do you want to explain Zumer Woffin? Zumar Woffin is the young people that are very close to what you would consider fascists. They believe that there should be a strong government.
Starting point is 01:26:36 They're right-wangers. A lot of them believe that they want to see only white Europeans allowed to migrate into the U.S. They want to deport people that are basically not what they would consider real Americans. They're basically the growing faction of. Groopers. Yeah. Groopers, white nationalists or otherwise. And it's a large faction of the young male Gen Z population and some female.
Starting point is 01:27:06 And I think that's the direction it's going. Because a lot of the younger guys I meet are Fuentes fans. A lot of the younger guys. I'm not suggesting that he's the most popular or most prominent. comment or anything like that. But when I meet younger political guys, they like Nick Fuentes, and they're wrong about a lot of things. But the reason why is we've been lied to. We know we've been lied to. And no one is offering up a rebuttal without trying to lie more. So what happens is Nick Fuentes goes on Tucker Carlson's show and they start screaming all of these things to try and
Starting point is 01:27:39 get him banned. He pops up on Spotify. They ban him. They ban him from YouTube. Young people are sick and tired of being lied to, and if no one's offering up a real argument against Nick Fuentes, then young people are going to assume he must be correct, because no one else will tell them the truth. I'm not saying Nick is telling him the truth. I'm saying if Nick says X, and instead of arguing that the media says ban him for saying it, they go, wow, it must be true. Yeah, they call it Holocaust denial. It used to be called Holocaust revisionism because people were like, well, let's look at the data and see if they were wrong about any of the numbers. and I heard this interesting concept that the Allies,
Starting point is 01:28:13 when they were finishing World War II and they were doing bombing runs in Germany, blowing up roads, blown up train stations. They didn't know there were camps yet. They blew up the transport and the Germans couldn't get food into the camps anymore. And so for weeks, these people started starving and then the Allies rolled in.
Starting point is 01:28:28 And that aspect of it is very touchy for the allies. It's not. It's just normal war shit. No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. That subject is not touchy. It's a literal fact of war. We know about the bomb.
Starting point is 01:28:41 bombing of Dresden. And the issue is, why were those people in camps, Ian? Well, yeah, I were they in the camps in the first place. Then you can talk about the German, you know, resettlement about what, so, you know, I'm not here to talk about World War II. My point is young people are looking at this. We're just talking a moment ago about tariffs and aluminum in Canada. So young people are going, why can't I get a job? And what do they see? Well, we shut down our processing plants for steel and now we're importing from China for slave labor. And they're going, so I could have worked in a steel mill like my grandpa did, but instead they shut it down and now they're importing from China, which is more expensive to do, but they don't got to pay Chinese labor.
Starting point is 01:29:17 That's why I can't have a job? Yes. What about aluminum refining? We get it from Canada. Where's the aluminum come from? Guinea, Brazil. And they go, why don't we do it here? Nah, we're going to outsource it anyway. So these young people get pissed off and they say, I can't have a family. I can't buy a house. I can't get a job. We've outsourced all these jobs. Then Trump comes and says, I'm going to put tariffs on these countries so that this forces American industry to start rebuilding in America. And these young guys go, thank you Donald Trump for finally sticking up for me. So the downside is that corporations would be like, I can't handle the tariffs here anymore. I'm out.
Starting point is 01:29:53 It's not going to happen. A market is a market. So people try to come up with all these stupid arguments. If you sell a product in China, you adhere to Chinese rules. Google, for instance, was trying to create a search engine. and they said censor a bunch of stuff. Dragon something, I think. Yeah, well, they ultimately, I think, did roll out their censored search.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Movie industry says we want to put movies in China. You've got to censor certain things. And they do. If Donald Trump says, we're going to have tariffs on imports. Then what happens? Honda will build a factory in the United States and employ Americans to work on these cars to avoid paying the tariffs. Then American young people get those jobs. And we can start to rebuild our community, our culture, and our industry.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Instead, you've got people arguing in front. favor of continued extraction of the American economy and culture. One of the examples I'll give with Nick Fuentes is one I've given before where he's got a viral, viral clip with probably tens of millions of views where he says he doesn't want to live near black people. And he says it's not because he's a problem with individual black people. He's actually, and this is funny. I like him knows. He said, what did he say racism is low IQ or something like that? Something like that. And he said the issue is those communities, the crime rates, everybody knows. They don't want to live next to black people, and they're lying.
Starting point is 01:31:08 Now here's the thing. All these young white guys will look at the crime rates. They'll look at their own neighborhoods, and they'll be like, yep, tends to be a lot of young black men committing a lot of the crime. You bring it up on social media, you get banned. You advocate for it, and every liberal, every Democrat's going to give you a justification and a lie in an excuse, even though these same liberals sell their property when black families move in. So what do they do? They say, wow. Nick's the only one telling the truth.
Starting point is 01:31:34 he must be right about everything else as well. Nick, I think he's falling short on that argument. If that's an actual argument he made, I think it's poverty that drives crime and that these people are... Poverty doesn't drive crime, crime drives poverty. And the response Nick has for you is, explain Appalachia.
Starting point is 01:31:49 Yeah. The poorest place in the country and a lower than average crime. Nice try, Ian. Well, they're all on opiates. What do you want? Oh, because they're too drugged up to believe crime? And they live super far away from me, Charlotte.
Starting point is 01:31:59 No. Actually, Ian, opiate usage is way higher in the Chicago black communities than in Appalachia. There's low crime in Appalachia because they live. up the hill. No one wants to walk up there. No, we're talking about the cities. What? We're talking about cities of 30,000,
Starting point is 01:32:10 40,000 people. Crime is low. Those are very small cities. If you're talking about Detroit or like, these people are... Then how come in Chicago in the wider areas has lower crime? Because the last 150 years, people, I'll answer your question. You are doing exactly. No. Exactly what I'm saying. No. In this iteration of slavery and history, it was the black people from
Starting point is 01:32:28 Africa got enslaved by the white people. A thousand years ago, was the Carthaginians. Two thousand years. The Carthaginians enslaved by the Romans. They had white. skin the slaves that time. This time it was those people. Their descendants, 100 years later, don't have the nutrition because they were slave descendants. My exact point. My exact point was that. It's not their skin color that's doing it. I'm saying it's... And I would agree, I would agree, but skin color does create the first impression. Racism does exist. And the bigger issued, I argue, is culture and community, which is why Hyde Park is safe and luxurious and black.
Starting point is 01:33:02 and the Leclair Courts is black, but also impoverished, dangerous, and gang infested. The point is, your equivocation and your desperate attempt to try and downplay the obvious reality of young black men committed disproportionate of the crime results in these 20-year-old white dudes being like Ian's Long. Well, if... And then they're going to go watch Nick Fuentes. If 150 years ago a bunch of white people were enslaved and brought over here by a big black, very wealthy black oligarchy, you better believe right now it would be a bunch of dumb white people committing crime. You're not arguing.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Because they're descendants of slaves without the nutrition and education. You are not explaining to young people why in a city like Chicago, the white areas have low crime and the black areas have high crime. I'm telling you because of the descendants of the slaves, which happened to be mostly black, their kids didn't have education. They didn't have money. They didn't have nutrition. So they didn't have the brain matter to do creative get out of the crime worlds. And so they're stuck. Not everybody, but a lot of people from that culture are residually stuck due to the slavery.
Starting point is 01:33:58 I think that's racist and wrong. No, no. I think it's racist. They claimants their skin color. in culture that's causing crime. It's not racist to mention that culture is a reason for why there's crime. It's not their skin color that's causing it. No, no. You could argue that certain cultures are more likely to commit crimes in other cultures. Like if you took me, who's a free speech advocate and send me to Saudi Arabia, you better believe I'd talk shit about the king and that's a
Starting point is 01:34:20 crime over there. I'd be a criminal. But like, what the fuck? That's my culture. But I, you know, regardless of the debate, this is my point. You have said nothing. I said the reason that these people Don't just keep saying the same thing over and over again. Let me finish my point. To a young person who grows up in these suburbs and sees white liberals being racist and then publicly lying about why they actually don't want to live in these neighborhoods, these people are going to go follow. They're going to what?
Starting point is 01:34:46 Go listen to Nick. Well, there are hypocrites for sure. There's people that... You go into the suburbs of Chicago. You go to the white neighborhoods and everyone will say under their breath bad things about the black areas while publicly acting like the poor black communities are oppressed and it's not their fault. They're committing crimes.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Nick will then in the suburb of Chicago say the exact opposite and say it's because they commit crimes and they're criminals. And the young people go, everybody says it, but no one says it publicly except Nick. And then when Nick comes out and praises Hitler, they say he must be telling the truth because you won't have a real conversation about what's going on in Chicago. That's my problem with all the people attacking Tucker Carlson. All of these people, it's laughable because it's one issue that they're obsessed with Israel. and of course Nick also has his issues with Israel, but the pro-Israel people are attacking Tucker and Nick and Candice specifically over Israel while ignoring their other positions on other issues
Starting point is 01:35:40 and why young people want to follow them. So maybe, I was talking with Gavin McInnis, who I said, he's a Zionist, he's pro-Israel, and he was like, oh, he said he loves Nick. He's like, talks to him all the time. And I said, right, Gavin, you're not the person I'm talking about. He's like, maybe I'm one of these pro-Israel people. I was like, no, no, no. The fact that you're willing to have your argument and express why you support Israel and why you're pro-Israel with someone like Nick is actually how we alleviate the pressure.
Starting point is 01:36:07 The problem is young people are getting screwed over and there's too many institutional politicians lying to them for political power and they're sick of being lied to. The problem then is Nick is wrong about quite a bit, but he's saying loud what a lot of people are unwilling to say. and so it's convincing them that he must be right about everything else. Yeah, he's got a genuine even if he's wrong, sometimes he'll say,
Starting point is 01:36:32 I mean, I've seen him sometimes he'll smile when he talks and I can tell he's pulling one over on people but he is genuine often and whether he's right or wrong people are drawn to genuine beliefs because at least you can challenge it
Starting point is 01:36:42 and they're not going to lie to you about it. Well, when someone says they like Hitler, you're probably going to be like he's probably telling me what he actually thinks because who would ever admit to him? And he's giving me like
Starting point is 01:36:52 one 50th of the statement there. Like what do you mean? I want to know what do you mean when you say something like that? What do you like about him? That he was able to rally 100 million people? I think, I guess. I'm not saying he's a good guy. I think that what we're going to see is young people moving to the further, further,
Starting point is 01:37:10 I don't know if far right makes sense. Far right is a term created by leftists to smear people of various disparate ideologies. A governmental, a command economy with racial identitarianism is not far. right because depending on the race, they'll call it left or right. Like ADL calls black identitarianism left wing. I'm like, what is left wing about that? It's not progressive. It's regressive. And what is their economic or cultural standpoint? It's just identitarianism. Well, race identitarianism is regressive. So I don't, I wouldn't call it far right. Woke right is a stupid, made up garbage term by the same thing. Leftists and liberals trying to
Starting point is 01:37:51 smear people on the right. But I think you're going to find a. I guess I would describe it as white identitarianism among young people because they're sick of being attacked for being white and they're sick of being lied to by an establishment as to the cause of crime in this country. Additionally, one thing that's really going about right now are these DOJ documents that show black and Latino people listed as white people in the crime stats. This is what these these manipulations and lies should not happen. And it's going to drive people to someone like Nick, and Hitler was not a good dude, nor was he cool in any way to genocidal maniac, but they lie about so much they're making it easy for someone like Nick to build a follow.
Starting point is 01:38:36 That's a big problem. If acknowledging the crime stats and say there's a disproportionate amount of crime coming out of the black communities is different than saying because they're black, they're causing crime. That is not the same thing. And Nick didn't say that. He said, he said it's not to blame individual black people. However, the issue is liberals won't admit it, but look at the property values in their cities and the property values drop the less white an area becomes. And these are liberals in cities that vote Democrat. Everybody knows they're lying about what they actually think. That's the issue. And now you can talk about all the reasons why there's crime or whatever your argument might be. But this is, people are sick of being
Starting point is 01:39:18 lied to. I like talking about race realism. I don't know if that's the right term. People are like, you said the words. But like I love talking about the differences. and genetics because then you can actually have normal conversations, not freak people out and make them run towards the next extremist. You're not allowed to point out that black people are predisposed to sickle cell anemia. I don't know if all the time they're taller. Why is, how many people in the NBA are black versus white? 85%, 90, I don't know what the taller, larger bodies, more muscular genetically maybe because they had to hunt on by foot longer 10,000 years ago. I don't know, but it's interesting. The important thing to understand is that the
Starting point is 01:39:54 The question of skin color is the problem. Because when we talk about race, people often whittle it down to skin color. But then you end up with someone calling I laud, what do they call them, Indian? Yeah. A lot who Sean called them that, right? He thought Alad was Indian. And I'll say this, Somalis are short and Haitians are tall. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:14 Like, just because they have dark skin doesn't make them the same thing. That's the problem with racism is that people will say white people, black people, Hispanics or whatever. and you're like, man, you could have a problem with Irish people, but like the French. You could have, you could love Haitians and not like Sudanese or whatever. You know what I mean? Like, Myron Gaines talks a bit about this because he's literally black, but in the United States, they say he's not black because he's Sudanese in America.
Starting point is 01:40:42 So despite the fact he's literally African, they're like, that's not what it means to be black. So that's the problem with like racism and whatever you want to call it. Man, I saw the Tibetan Fox. Have you ever seen the Tibetan Fox? Betten Fox. You should pull up the picture. He looks like an Asian guy. Like he has the eyes. The cut eyes. I'm like, okay, they evolved this over time because the heavy wind. I think it's the heavy winds of Asia. Don't be so racist. Look at him. Doesn't he look like an Asian dude? The Tibetan Fox. So he cuts his eyes against the wind. I think that's where the evolution
Starting point is 01:41:11 of the differences in hominids comes from is the terrain. Like high beating sun in the equatorial Africa. Your skin gets darker every day and darker and darker and darker and then your kids are just born with the darker skin and the Asian people and then look at his eyes he's definitely cutting the wind the Tibetan fox he's definitely Tibetan no he's just dubious of what you're talking
Starting point is 01:41:34 he's not he's not buying it is that why I'm not believing this wisdom in his eyes he's Asian he must be wise no I'm just kidding I just love talking about the differences man there's value in it if you can kind of call the reason Asians have it's called the
Starting point is 01:41:49 epicantic fold it's about protection from cold wind, dust, and UV light in harsh ancestral environments, you are probably correct as to why the Fox also has the dubious look. The apparent eye look. Yeah. People with like webbed feet that can swim in the southeast
Starting point is 01:42:06 Pacific, you know, those Pacific islanders, they can hold their breath for like eight minutes underwater. I love it. I love it. I, I, this is actually kind of funny. Ian, you're a genius. I asked Grock, is that why the Tibetan Fox has the same eyes? And he goes, yes,
Starting point is 01:42:22 Exactly. The Tibetan sand fox lives in the same freezing wind blasted Tibetan Plateau as the people who evolved the epicantic fold, narrow almond-shaped eyes, an identical adaptation. What's the name of the area where they were? The Tibetan Plateau. Yeah, the Tibetan Plateau, man. Look at that. That's why the... And that's why, look at that, less snowblindness. And let's see, narrow elongated, permanently half squinted because of high winds and UV from
Starting point is 01:42:52 the snow. That will help in Mars. It goes all the way, like it goes all the way into, like people that are from Hungary have a bit of that in their eyes. Getting back to crime, I want to talk about the crime. And, you know, and what we're doing in Toronto, too, is it's how the cities have been
Starting point is 01:43:05 planned to. You've got segregation. You pick any U.S. city kind of cross the tracks. You know, how we plan. By choice, though. Sorry? The, like Chicago segregation was by choice. Well, I know, but now we're planning new cities. You look into the growth that's happening in Toronto. We're now putting in mixed
Starting point is 01:43:21 juice neighborhoods, right? So everything, it's mixed juice. You have to mix it in. You just can't have that race over here, that race over there. You got to mix it in. And my kids, I have five kids, and I picked them up from school. Kids would come to my, after school, come to my home, and I couldn't pronounce half their names. But my kids didn't see that race as, you know, that's Rafi and this is Jahoff. And my kids didn't even see that. That's, that Toronto's a multicultural city in the world. And they don't see that. So how these cities are planned also as we move forward, is how it's, you know. So I challenge you on that notion.
Starting point is 01:43:55 I think that's a marketing thing that Toronto came up with. Because what does it actually mean to be the most multicultural? Oh, we have, like you said, you want to come to Toronto? I'm just saying that every race is there. It's like every food. I think New York is less, as more diverse. Or probably the same. I don't, you know, I'm not going to split hair stem on this.
Starting point is 01:44:13 But like I said, you want to come and have Somalian food. You want to eat the open food. You want Chinese food. You want Thai food. It's there. Right? and it's, and, you know, people come. They immigrate to Canada, and we, like, we try to spread them out through the country.
Starting point is 01:44:25 So let's send these people to Winnipeg. Let's send these people over Scots, but they all want to come to Toronto because all the communities are here. We have, you know, we have China. We're going to go to your chats and rants right now. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Rumble uncensored portion of the show. I got one for you.
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Starting point is 01:46:07 Stay tuned. Congratulations. Work, dude. Shanich Walthor says everybody is happy to have fillback. The commies were driving slow in the left lane in his absence. Congratulations again, Burr. brother. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. It was getting bad, Phil. It was getting bad.
Starting point is 01:46:22 You know, someone needs to police those communists in the left lane. You should have heard me talking about communism last week. People are like, where's Phil? Yeah, he was defending it. What do you say? I'm steel manning the opposition, that's all. Sure. All right. Jay Birdharn
Starting point is 01:46:38 says, welcome back, Phil. Congratulations on the baby. Just had my second grandson this past week. Congratulations and thank you very much. Absolutely. money my shot says tim illinois passed at least 13 new taxes statewide to pay for stuff in chicago that means southern illinois will be paying for public things in chicago get out while you can here in west virginia we have bad taxes but it's because it used to be a democrat state
Starting point is 01:47:04 and now it's turned into a republican state only recently and i have had my conversations with the politicians and they are trying to fix the tax problems in west virginia one of the great things is that the former governor wanted to eliminate the income tax of West Virginia, which would, smartest thing they could do, eliminate personal income tax in West Virginia, and this state will generate an insane amount of money. You are going to instantly get every single wealthy person in the D.C. area, Maryland, and Virginia, they will move into West Virginia and start developing like crazy. The tax revenue will be off the charts. and the development would be amazing.
Starting point is 01:47:46 So a lot of people in West Virginia don't want it. I say protect the heritage areas, keep the small town small, but develop where development can go and eliminate the income tax is a great idea. But guess what? It's the Democrats in the state that don't want to do it. Yep.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Shocker. All right. Rafflo says, Tim, given your policy for running for public office, you're sure you're not related to Jakob Smyranov? Well, the country. You know that guy? The comedian? Yeah, of course. But what? He's like the policy of eliminating everything and just, like I said, if I were to actually run for office, I would, I would just say all of these really horrible things that would guarantee I never get elected.
Starting point is 01:48:25 Social Security, got to go. Don't care. What's that? But you paid into it so you deserve it. Nope. Gone. Bye. Don't care. I've made similar commitments. Oh, yeah. This is why I, you know, I'm actually, maybe, maybe at some point I should run for the presidency just so that I can say all of these things. And people will be like, I will never vote for that man. Run as a Republican and say, I'll say things like church is good and you definitely need to go. And we need a culture that prioritizes local community. If not church, something, but church is good where people can come together and their community bonds together. And welfare is bad and shouldn't exist at all. And government subsidies shouldn't exist at all.
Starting point is 01:49:02 Oh, boy. Yeah, the government, what the government should do is be like a referee, but not be punitive taxes. gone. Tax on gasoline. Gone. If you got a problem with your roads, your local community can figure out if you want roads or not. None of the federal government's business. Wars, gone. Sounds like Javier Milley. Afuela. Afuera. I mean, he's amazing. But some welfare is good. Do you think some welfare is good? No. Yes, but it should be done locally. And so local communities should figure out, I'm not opposed to, I like the idea that government can help incentivize development in certain areas through government itself. I'm not opposed to all, I think some taxes
Starting point is 01:49:50 are okay, but they should be dramatically reduced. I like the idea of, is there something that people agree the federal government should do? Yes, okay, then we should set that agency up, not in D.C., but in an area that could utilize the development, and then we help grow an industry and we make new cities and things like this. And then every law should have a sunset clause, every policy a sunset, every executive order will sunset. If I was president and I should executive order, I would write, this executive order will sunset in six years and no longer be enforceable. Someone else can come in and add more to it after the fact. Anyway, enough of my hypothetical attacking of government, well, actual attacking government with hypothetical presidential
Starting point is 01:50:37 run. All right. Old Roy says, I like when Ian brings his perspective to the show. Don't always agree, but I find it makes for great animated discussions. Thank you, Old Roy. The clip from the show about, I think it's titled like Tim schools Ian on communism. It's got like 200,000 something used. That's a little bias there, Tim. I didn't make it. Talk to Calvin about it. Last was in session, that's for sure. Well, nobody likes communism. So when you defend it or steal man it, people have to steal man it. That's the only way we do it. You have to understand it. You don't have to.
Starting point is 01:51:06 I must. That's a stall. All right, let's go. We got thinker for a life. He says, I see the NY race like this. A child asks their parents for a gun, but the parents keep saying, no, you'll shoot your eye out. Let the Dems shoot their eye out. They'll learn hard and turn to common sense.
Starting point is 01:51:18 Nope. We see that. In the Pacific Northwest, people just flee and they entrench their power. And Chicago, the same thing. Yeah, they don't learn. There's no learning. They actually celebrate. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:29 And then when things don't work, they just say, well, we didn't do it hard. enough. We didn't have enough socialism. We didn't do. Yeah. They say the corporation, like Venezuela, when you ask these socialists, why Venezuela's failing, they say, because the capitalists are interfering. Yeah. I mean, that's 100% true. You listen, you talk, get into arguments on the internet with any communists and they just say, well, the CIA did it. The CIA is the reason that the Soviet Union didn't, you know, didn't succeed. And if it isn't the CIA, then it was because Stalin wasn't actually a communist. He was right-wing, and it was an authoritarian system.
Starting point is 01:52:05 So, first, it was the CIA, and then if it wasn't the CIA, then it was Stalin wasn't good enough. Enki says, nine months ago, I told you I found out my girlfriend was pregnant. Tomorrow is her C-section. Please pray for us, and thanks Timcast and Discord for everything. All right, man. Right on. I was about to get my mom when I was pregnant, when my mother was pregnant with me, I was in there for like 18 hours. And she was struggling.
Starting point is 01:52:26 And they were like, all right, we're going to cut them out. and immediately turned around and then slid out when she heard that. It was like a signal to my body. Get out of there. We got a good one. D. Sage says, I'm okay with invading Canada after this pathetic attempt to save the Canadian economy. No, I got more death threats.
Starting point is 01:52:44 Okay, so to be fair, after Charlie Kirk, I got the most. But up until that point, when I jokingly tweeted that we will invade Canada and be greeted as liberators, my wife was like, what did you do? because like our email was just lit up with death threats and I was like what are they saying? They're like they're saying Canada will destroy you and like you like they were saying you know what it's just it's bon I was at the Charlie Kirk Memorial
Starting point is 01:53:11 I went out there I felt I had to be there I got invited to go out and I was out there like I said there's so many things these two countries together like they come together on sport hockey we import a lot of your comedians yes yeah exactly comedy yeah the humor The Canadian.
Starting point is 01:53:26 Musicians. But I mean, you know. Is Ryan a Ronald's Canadian? Time to sit down and figure this out. Like I said, we are. He was? Pals are going to be pals for a very long time. But the way it's going now.
Starting point is 01:53:35 It felt like it was a joke from Trump. He thought of it as sort of an innocent joke, get the ball rolling. But it's like if someone's like, you know, you might not have a job tomorrow. Like for the boss, it's ha ha. It's very funny. But for the person that is terrified, they might actually lose their job. It's a big deal. It's not funny.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Oh, and we're buying billions off. We're buying billions off you guys. We're buying like close to 400 billion. every year back and forth. The trades almost eat. We have the LCBO, the Liquor Control Board of Ontario, where you have to go to a store to buy, you know, liquor, vodka, bourbon, whatever. The liquor control board of Ontario, the LCB is the largest buyer of alcohol in the world.
Starting point is 01:54:11 Our premier is taking all the U.S. booze off the shelf. You don't think that's hurting the people. Like, you can't get bourbon now in Canada. You don't think it's hurting all the people in California, all the California wine that comes into the country, all the bourbon that comes out of Kentucky. into our country, it's senseless. We have to sit down, close the door, and negotiate this thing out. Like I said, we're, like I said, Canada and United, we have longstanding relations.
Starting point is 01:54:37 We agree with Tim. You know, let's get on our own feet. You guys do what you got to do. But that's, that's years away, right? That's years away before that's going to happen. But I said there's a tremendous amount of trade that goes back and forth that is beneficial to United States and to Canada, right? but the way, you know, it's being portrayed up there, there's some longstanding ramifications. It's going to happen. Like you said, people are coming out of Florida and not going. You don't think it's three million Canadians? You know, Desantis come out and said, oh, that's
Starting point is 01:55:04 significant three million Canadians. Like, that's just ludicrous. Why do you have this saying it, right? We got David Brickin. He says, Phil, from all of us watching tonight, welcome back and a very merry metal fatherhood. Thank you very much. I appreciate the love. What was the first song you played for your son? I saw you. Hammer-smashed face by cannibal corpse. And that's not, I'm not kidding around. Are you guys still ticked off that we beat you in the four nations face off? Is that what you guys are still?
Starting point is 01:55:28 I didn't follow it. What happened? When we, during the All-Star break, when Canada, US, we beat you in overtime? I haven't watched sports in like six years. No, I don't, I'm not. I love Canada, man. I love Canada. I want to unify and make one great country. No. The problem is central control. You know what? Canada looks like, you know, a lot of people look like there is no border,
Starting point is 01:55:47 right? And that's me. I look like there is no border. I have a A ton of friends across the world. I strongly disagree. Right? I've been to Canada a bunch of times and there's definitely a border. Yeah, I never could tell. Why do you say that? Well, the first time I tried to go to Canada, we had to get strip searched.
Starting point is 01:56:06 This was back in like 1990s. That's that. And they made us empty out our trailer and everything because they were afraid that we might have had marijuana, which we had no marijuana at all. We were the first one's legal-wise marijuana. Yeah, which is why I was like, why is this? That's a one-off thing, like I said. But I would love to be no border.
Starting point is 01:56:26 I mean, you know, but we don't look like there's a border, right? I have tons of friends that come to, you know, Toronto. We're here all the time. I love it here, you know. It's just about maintaining decentralized autonomy because I wouldn't want, like, the American government to govern Canada. But if we could all have our states. Yeah, it's never going to happen.
Starting point is 01:56:41 United States. You know, like, it's, it's, let's sit down and figure things out and get back to where we are. I said, Canada and U.S. are. better together. And I'll stand here and defend that to the end. But like I said, we probably relied way too much on the U.S. And I think we've realized that. But again, there's a tremendous amount of trade that we buy off the U.S. that come in. Like, it's almost, I think it's rated in $60 billion a year that goes back and forth between the two countries. It's, you know, we're your largest trading partner. It's ludicrous. Did you say your buddy is buddies with the PM or the?
Starting point is 01:57:14 My good friend, Doug Ford, is our premier, which is like a governor to you. Are you friends with Doug Ford? That rules. Do you guys talk about this? I just talked to them. I talked them this morning. I talked to me the other day. Are you guys like, how are we going to fix the, like, how do we get these?
Starting point is 01:57:26 He wants to have a deal. But it's like pushing. Let's read some more. He wants to have a deal. He wants to do a deal. He's good. Ian Slater says, respectfully, we don't need Canada for anything. We have to make things here.
Starting point is 01:57:36 Canada is subject to CCP. What are we still dealing with? Why are we still dealing with backstabbers? Americans can avoid tariff tax by buying American. You need our hockey players. You need our hockey players for sure. It's so much beautiful land, too. and you think of it as geopolitical strategy.
Starting point is 01:57:50 You don't want to make even remote. You don't even want your neighbor to the north to be neutral. You want them to be your ally. Absolutely. We got the board up across the Arctic. Together, we're a Canaan Fortress. I mean, it's, you know, there's so many similarities and friendships in both these countries, right?
Starting point is 01:58:06 I talk to people in the U.S. every day. Every day. Yeah, but if you say you want a border, that means we have no border. I'm saying the border comes across. Well, that's what the president wants to be the 50 first state, which is never going to have it. But I'm just saying it's, I don't look like there's a border, right? But, you know, we need one.
Starting point is 01:58:27 All right. Shadav says, to be honest, Tim, if the long game is to give a Cassus belly for invading Canada, you should support the tariffs. If you tariff us, our treasonous PM will make massive security threats by bringing the Chinese in. Love to Timcast from BC. I saw in, what was it, in British Columbia, they gave the land back to the, the Native Americans. You see that? In Richmond, I think it was. There's a large swath of land and a court ruled that because it was a fishing village 300 years ago, all of these homes are now subject to the jurisdiction of the Chakata or something like that, Native Americans. So as far,
Starting point is 01:59:04 you know, look, when I see stuff like that, I'm like, I got to be honest, if that continues and, you know, King Charles came in and said that Canada was the un, what did he say, the unseated land of the Anasheba, Algonquin. So it's like, okay, sounds like Canada doesn't want it anymore. No. And we can just come in and take it. Never going to happen. Well, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:59:28 They did give the land back to the Native Americans already in British Columbia. So you say never, but it's happening already. Anytime a person in a position of authority in a government, whether or not the king is, I think it's probably still up for debate. but anytime they say anything like that the king's not for to be he's irrelevant it's a bad idea for anyone to make those kind of remarks these land acknowledgments and stuff it's a terrible idea to even play at the at the idea that that it's unseated land because then you're talking you're calling into question the sovereignty of the government and you're calling into question whether or not the
Starting point is 02:00:07 government's legitimate it's a terrible idea yeah let's uh grab one last point before we go to the uncensored portion of the show. The Canadian royalty, King Charles III, as the head of state, represented day to day by the governor general, almost always acts on the advice of the elected prime minister. The last outright refusal of prime ministerial advice was 1926. The King Bing affair. The last time a viceroy withheld royal assent was 1961. And the recent interventions, prerogation, suspected, suspends.
Starting point is 02:00:43 defending parliament, January 6, 2025. Parliament was suspended in Canada? Prorogation in January by royal... From the governor. It's just symbolic. The king is symbolic. Get off the king, guys. The king has not... King Charles personally delivered the speech from the throne in Ottawa. They invited... First monarch to do since 87. Guys, it's symbolic. The king has no... The last direct royal intervention was 19... The last royal intervention was 1926.
Starting point is 02:01:19 And check, Australia was like 1970. They had a coup and they got rid of a governor general because he wouldn't play ball with the royal. So in 2025, January 6th, the prime minister agreed with the king. So they're arguing that it was not royal intervention as long as the governor general agreed with it. That was Trudeau. As far as governor general, Mary Simon, pro-rog to the 44th parliament. Mr. Trudeau. The king will appoint the governor general at the pleasure of the king is how they do it. And then the governor general can disband parliament. Basically, he's like the attack dog for the king.
Starting point is 02:01:54 I don't have anything. I think when like when the king says we should do this and they go, yes, we agree with you. So it's not an order of the king. We've done it. It's like arbitrary. Anyway, we're going to do the uncensored portion of the show and it's going to get pretty spicy. You guys are going to go maybe not really enjoy it. I don't know, but we're going to talk to you about science. So head over to rumble.com slash TimcastIR for that section of the show. You can join the Timcast Discord server by going to Timcast.com and clicking join us and get involved because community is our strength. Together, tens of thousands of you help support this show and the work that we do.
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Starting point is 02:02:52 No, I'm good. My friend, I'm just very happy to be here. Thanks for invite me down. And hopefully we've been a good discussion here today. But again, there's nothing more than I want to see and the country can, the U.S. and Canada get the relations back together the way it should be. And I just pre-having me on today.
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