Timcast IRL - Trump ENDS All DEI Departments, FIRES Staff, Deportation HAVE BEGUN w/Matt Walsh

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

Tim, Phil, Ian, & Shane are joined by Matt Walsh & Angela McArdle to discuss Trump ending all DEI departments in the federal government, Donald Trump ending affirmative action in the federal government, the DOJ to investigate state & local officials who obstruct deportations, and the US Military ordering thousands of troops to the southern border. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Shane @ShaneCashman (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guests: Matt Walsh @MattWalshBlog (X) Angela McArdle @angela4LNCChair (X) Matt Walsh is a conservative commentator, author, and podcast host known for his outspoken views on culture & politics. Angela McArdle is the chair of the Libertarian Party and a political activist known for advocating limited government, free markets, and individual liberty. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Donald Trump has ended all of the D.I. programs. He has nuked all of the diversity employees, the D.I. employees in the federal government. Now, he hasn't fired them. I say nuked because they've been put on paid leave, which kind of irks me. But at least they're not there anymore. What we're seeing now is they're trying to rename and hide these staffers across federal agencies. I hope Trump is able to get through this and figure out. I mean, this is malevolent. There's one instance we have. We have the tweet where a post there is a chief diversity officer who gets renamed a senior officer because they're trying to protect people's jobs. And that is in defiance of executive order which is insane so we got that story of course and uh here's a big one deportations have begun and the doj will investigate and prosecute any local officials who obstruct the deportation process so a lot of stuff

going on we've got the layoffs at cnn everyone's laughing about that and uh tiktok is reportedly banning free Palestine. They're claiming they're not. But people are posting videos showing that they have. So maybe it's all just fake news. But we'll break all of this down. It is only the second day. And Donald Trump has done. I guess technically it's the third day. Donald Trump has done many things, many things so far, keeping his promise. Of course, I talked about the pardoning of Ross Ulbricht the other day. So we'll get into all that stuff and we'll talk about how he is taking back the government.

He's also rescinded the executive order creating the equal employment opportunity in federal government, which is crazy because it wasn't a law. It was an executive order. Before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com and buy coffee. I'm willing to bet Ian's got no coffee left. OK, Ian's graphene dream has 494 bags left. So, I don't get it, Ian. You sold 5,350 bags in a month.

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right off the bat but your 28th amendment i had declared a different 28th amendment so we've got a bit of a comp mine was summary execution for people who ditched their shopping cart so you've got the chicken thing we got to figure that out mine was the shopping carts later i totally agree with you about that society is better the more people that return their shopping carts i've been on i've been on that for for years i didn't know that but i completely agree with you the aldi situation we put the quarter in the cart you have to put it back no no no no functioning society does not need financial incentives. I prefer punishment.

All right, I'm on board with it. So my 20th Amendment is the right to keep and bear and breed chickens, so it's a bit more wholesome, but okay. We'll have the debate. Angela McArdle is also hanging out. Thanks for having me back. Right on. Who are you?

What do you do? Oh, I'm the chair of the National Libertarian Party, the broker of deals, freer of peoples. Freer of peoples. That's good. And you are largely responsible for the pardoning of Ross Ulbricht, which has every libertarian throwing their hat in the air and cheering. That is correct. Super excited about that. Still lobbying for a few other people, including Roger Ver. Right on. cheering. That is correct. Super excited about that. Still lobbying for a few other people, including

Roger Ver. Right on. Nice. That's cool. Shane's hanging out. What's up? Congrats, Angela. Thank you very much. That's amazing. We were in the room at the Libertarian Convention when Trump made that promise, so it's awesome to see him fulfill it. I am Shane Cashman, author and host of Inverted World Live every Sunday at 6. What's up?

Oh, I'm happy to see both you guys. Angela, congrats on everything, man. Since last I saw you and having the baby and everything, rock and roll. And Matt, nice. I haven't seen you since the documentary, Am I Racist? went. So, good to see you again. Thank you. It was great. I haven't actually seen the documentary yet, but every time I see clips, I'm like, I loved Borat.

I was crying in tears in the theater. The fight scene is just so good. I hear a lot. Okay, anyway, but Angela, what's your Twitter account? Because I'm about to tweet this out it's angela for lnc chair thank you all right phil labonte hello everybody my name is phil labonte i'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that remains i'm an anti-communist and the counter-revolutionary let's go here we go ladies and gentlemen the story from usa today trump rolls back dei across the federal government is your workplace next i love this because this has been

the new narrative after trump basically said all all dei employees like not like if you are working in these departments you are now on leave your office is hereby closed and now the narrative has become is he going to bring this to the private sector i don't know that the president has the authority to do that you know joe biden famously tried to mandate vaccines for everybody i think he was trying to go through osha or something was that what it was trump i think may actually be able to do something on this very simply by instructing the the appropriate law enforcement to enforce the 1964 civil rights act yeah that is any private business that utilizes protected classes in their hiring will be in violation of the law and that means dei is de facto gone i mean dei is

is totally illegal like if you look at the the laws on the books discriminating based on any any immutable characteristic is illegal in the United States. The fact that it has been around this long is a testament to the fact that, honestly, the left has been so powerful in the United States, even though they'll scream and cry about how they're marginalized, etc. That has been the status quo for the better part of two decades, probably the better part of the past 40 or 50 years. California has it codified in state law so it'll be very interesting to see what happens there the battle of trump v newsom this is what

you need you need uh you know because the thing with executive orders of course is and the worry is that i mean they're great in this case but then the next guy can come and the next democrat can come and just reverse everything just as quickly as as trump is wiping out whatever biden did the same could happen to him and that's why you need uh congress to come in behind these executive orders and codify them into law so that it's not quite so easy to just wipe them out from existence and that could and that can be done easily with this dei stuff and although it is to your both your points it is already elite very much illegal to do to do this this is racial profiling racial discrimination um you could still have a could and should have a federal law that bans this explicitly on the basis that it's a human

rights violation because you're discriminating against people based on their uh based on their race he got rid of affirmative action and contracting for the federal government too good yeah that stuff should be illegal yeah it's unworkable to me that in the 60s were like hey maybe we shouldn't have this discrimination stuff. And then shortly thereafter, they said, maybe we should bring it right back on top of the existing law banning it. The thing about discrimination is you can, it's, yeah, if you say people of that kind can't do this, that's discrimination. But also people of that kind get this. That's also discrimination.

It's positive discrimination. So it goes both ways and i think it's it's fascinating too because we i mean you you were right that trump has already done more in in two three days than biden did in four years but trump has also arguably done more in two or three days than he himself did in four years in his first term and the difference is well there's there's of course a lot has changed and he's learned a lot from the first term he's got a much better team but the other thing too is that and this was always the irony of him being labeled a dictator, is that in his first term, he was the opposite of it. In fact, if anything, he had the opposite.

He erred too much in the opposite direction in that he was very shy about wielding his executive power. This time around, he realizes that, hey, I have this power. I can use it, and so I'm going to. It was to the point where it was a meme. People on the right were saying, please give us the trump that the left swears that he is give us the authoritarian trump that the left thinks he is but when you say you say trump did more in two days than biden did in his entire presidency you know the issue i take with that statement is that biden was effectively rolling backwards in his wheelchair down a hill

and trump is actually climbing the hill you know what i mean so i i would argue biden did a whole lot to damage and burn this country that's fair yeah so trump did more in two days to help the country joe bunn did literally nothing i i do what atm fees was a proposal of his that was the only positive there's got to be one nice thing at least one nice yeah the atm fees fees. He paid off my student loans. I didn't ask. I didn't sign up for anything. I just got some stupid check in the mail. Didn't ask. You paid your loans for 20 years, so you get all your money back.

And now you get to pay for it as a taxpayer. I mean, egregious. I thought it was reversed. Yeah, I didn't get that. Nope. They turned to zero. I was like, thanks for the 11 grand. That's not a nice thing.

No, it wasn't. But he did it. You know, it's like. Not to everyone else. I don't know how to rectify it. I think people need to understand that Robin Hood wasn't stealing from the the rich to give to the poor he was stealing from the government king right he was the sheriff who was collecting all the taxes and so in this in this instance what what uh uh ian is referring to is quite literally the government stealing from the poor to give to the highest income

earners in this country if you want to if you want to correct it, the IRS will accept money. I can just send them a check? You can just send them the check. Shane, on the Green show earlier, you were saying that Trump wouldn't... I've heard this sentiment online, too, is that if he had gotten to be president in 2020, he wouldn't have had this zeal.

He wouldn't have had this... I saw Andy Ngo say that. He had to go through the trials and tribulations of the last four years, I think, to get the Trump we got the last two days. He wouldn't have had the same team behind him either. Yeah. Or the Senate or Congress.

I mean, come on. It's almost as if he went through divine trials. Yes. To earn and understand his place, narrowly avoiding death, but by the turn of his head, that made him a forceful president. And we've only seen a couple days. That's why his portrait looks the way it does. I think it's a really good representation of the hero's journey and i don't necessarily think that donald trump is coming in to save every single person in the

country but i do think he's coming to redeem the boomer generation i think that's a big part of this is he's like we are going to fix a lot of the things that the boomers did direct the country you know uh what matters to me a lot is the pardoning of ross olbrich and uh i know for libertarians it's largely about the core issues of the case to me that those matter but what makes me a bit more emotional here is that donald trump of all the things he promised the dei firings these people are in his way trump has an agenda he wants to secure the border he's got a mission that he believes in and he's's going to fire these people, not just because he promised to do it, but he promised to do it because these are people who obstructed him and wronged him. He already got the libertarian vote. He already won. He's not running for office again. So what does he really benefit by taking

the political risk of making this move to keep his word and pardon Russell Brick? Well, he offered his word. And what I see for America is Barack Obama made promises, promises not kept. Wars, expansion, George W. Bush, wars and expansion. And Joe Biden, wars and expansion. And Donald Trump said, I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong,

he had a statement on this, they asked him and he said, I don't really care about the guy, but I promised I'd do it, so I did. And that matters. That matters for the spirit of this country and what young people are going to see in their president. I said, I'll do it, and I did. And that matters. That matters for the spirit of this country and what young people are going to see in their president. I said, I'll do it, and I did.

That's why I would also, on the pardon point, I mean, his first three days, who could complain? He's done a lot. But we should also mention that there's been, in the pardoning, there's been, so far, there's been one omission that I very much hope is, you know, that this is coming soon soon which is the pro-lifers who are sitting that's right we're sitting in federal prison right now uh some of them are

already out but they're on probation and they've got this on the record some are actually in federal prison right now has he made promises to to pardon them as well yeah yeah yes and and and the for my money i mean what happened to the j6ers, we all know, was outrageous political persecution. What happened to these pro-lifers is the worst of all. This is the worst political persecution that we've seen in modern history, in my opinion. What is it? Well, the Biden administration decided that they were going to enforce the so-called FACE Act. I've heard of it a couple years ago or something.

Yeah, it's the freedom of access to clinics entrances so this is a 90s era law that made it a a federal crime to basically come within x number of feet of the entrance of a of an abortion clinic if you're a protester and you're blocking you know the entrance but the thing is that uh in that law already had a million problems because you're treating these clinics like this special category of building and giving them kind the kinds of protections you don't give any other building but then also this law supposedly offered the same protections to uh pregnancy resource centers to crisis pregnancy centers to pro-life centers so that was their way of like dealing with the the inequality of the law they said okay well yeah well this will also apply to

pro-life centers well the problem is that they don't enforce that and then under the biden administration you had you know these these pro-abortion radicals that were literally setting pregnancy centers pro-life pregnancy centers on fire and there was no attempt to track these people down at all um and instead they decided to go after these pro-lifers uh some of whom there was a case in tennessee where they were sitting i believe outside the entrance of the of the of the abortion clinic and praying no no violence occurred you know they didn't they never uh touched anyone. They didn't commit any violent act at all. They weren't even shouting at anybody.

They were just sitting there praying. And some of these are like elderly women. And the Biden administration comes along and charges them with federal crimes and throws them in federal prison for it. Unconscionable. I don't think they were even actually physically obstructing anyone from entering other than just being in space. You'd have to walk around. You just have to walk around them. They weren even you know it's not it wasn't like chaining themselves to the door or something it's not like black block where they are locking elbows

and blocking you from and that's why that's why i say it's they in any other context like if they had done that outside of a home depot at worst they get loitering charts of misdemeanor. It only is a federal crime because the federal government has decided to treat abortion clinics like these sacred temples, which is how they look. Because they are, in their opinion. There were some protesters who were inside the lobby

of an abortion clinic, and I think they were praying, and they were instructed you have to leave or else and they got charged under this as well which should just be a trespass slap on the wrist that should be trespassing charge right we know who's advocating for them right now i mean there's you know pardons yeah there's been uh there are many pro-life organizations that have been advocating and to trump's and by the way trump has said that he's going to pardon them so i i'm not there's no indication that he's just going to ignore them and betray them.

I'm not claiming this is some great betrayal. Maybe he's waiting. The time there's the March for Life is on Friday. Maybe that'll be the time. That would be a great time to do it. Yeah, I'd like to see it. And but the tradeoff is he's got to pardon Joe Biden because Joe's not going down for any crimes anyway.

He's done. He's going out. He's chilling. Might as well. I mean, I don't know if i offended everyone okay no no no why is it a trade why joe because it kind of also indicates he's done something wrong which is cool it's a little left field but i think if he were to do that and say you know you did a lot of terrible i think he should pardon him for specific crimes actually that would you know what i think

you're right actually i saw it on twitter it's not my idea. But I'll say why. I think Joe Biden is an awful person who has committed a lot of crime. You look at the crime family, 10% for the big guy, the Burisma scandal. But he is very old and unaware of his surroundings. If Trump were to issue the pardon, acting very magnanimous, it would also require Biden to make an admission of guilt for the things that he did that Trump would pardon him for. And then I'm not going to put him in prison. I mean, he's 80, 80 something. And Massey was saying last night that if you bring these people before Congress now, like Anthony Fauci, and you ask him, like, why did you lie about gain of function?

You said there was none when there was. And if he still lies, then they can hit him even after the pardon. Now they can hit him again for perjury. So he's got to kind of admit, like, this is why I lied to the public i love the sentiment but i joe biden needs continued ridicule in my mind but that's what the pardon is pardoning fauci i don't know but i can't get on board with that i agree that if you pardon him for specific crimes yeah pardon him for you know the crimes of corruption you have to get the exact he's gonna be called out this on this day in this act we'll pardon you for it if he says i pardoned uh joe biden for the uh quid pro quo in ukraine threatening to withhold congressionally approved loan guarantees that's illegal but he did it we

all know he did so i pardoned him for it that would be the first troll party right sounds like he's trolling i like that i'm okay okay i'm okay with troll pardon uh There's a guy who might need a pardon next month, Dr. Eitan Haim. He's a Texas doctor who was a whistleblower at the Texas Children's Hospital. Oh, yes. He's at a trial next month. They're trying to put him away for 10 years. State or federal? I believe so.

I believe so. They say he's violating HIPAA violations. We should look it up. But that guy needs help. This one's a bit more controversial. Derek Chauvin. I've seen his name being tossed around i think you tweeted it maybe there's federal and state charges trump absolutely should pardon chauvin on the federal charge there's a lot of evidence that that uh george floyd had like fentanyl nor fentanyl i think it was caffeine

nicotine and thc in his system five drugs when he died it was a heart attack not an asphyxiation he didn't get a fair trial there's no way he got a fair trial i was gonna say i don't care about any of that stuff yeah i don't care about the drugs i don't care about whatever he didn't have a fair trial just on the trial alone i think i think that that's if this is all about undoing the weaponization of the justice system it should be done on the trial let's uh let's jump to this next story it's it's part of the first one but it's interesting pop crave has the tweet saying donald trump has revoked the equal employment opportunity act of 1965 the order prohibited discretion discrimination in hiring and employment based on race color religion sex or national origin we have this in the uh we have uh right here this is the executive order ending illegal

discrimination and restoring merit-based opportunity And you can see while this does cover all the stuff, it includes executive order one, one, two, four, six of September 24th, 1965. Equal employment opportunity is hereby revoked for 90 days from this date from the date of this order. Federal contractors may continue to comply with the regulatory scheme in effect on January 20th, 2025. So what they say over here, basically it says, on September 24th, 1965, Lyndon Johnson issued Executive Order 11246, prohibiting employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, or national origin by those organizations receiving federal contracts and subcontracts. In 1967, Johnson amended the order to include the sex on the list of attributes.

It also requires federal contractors to take affirmative action to promote the full realization of equal opportunity for women and minorities. So this is basically the end of affirmative action in the federal government. It only extends to the federal government. I did not realize that was just an executive order. I thought that was a law. Trump just said, said nah we out done yeah that's pretty remarkable that's right right i mean this brass balls you know what so this is

a thought that i had this it's a it's a question i don't really know the answer to it but um when you look at all these things that trump's doing and he's killing dei in federal government he's killing gender ideology in the federal government those two things in particular you know i i was expecting a a nuclear explosion of of rage a full-on left-wing meltdown protests in the street and everything over this and we're not quite now of course the left is upset the media is upset about it but we're not we're not quite seeing the level of no rage that i was expecting and i'm and uh i'm i'm wondering why that is one one theory is uh chris ruffo had a he tweeted something earlier about how the big tech companies you know according to people he's talking to his reporting that these talking to people the big

tech companies they're going to comply with this uh getting rid of dei and according to these talking to people, the big tech companies, they're going to comply with this getting rid of DEI. And according to him, there's kind of actually a sense of relief that they don't have to pretend to care about this anymore. And then you just get back to hiring people that are good at doing their job. So I wonder if for some on the left, if maybe that applies more broadly and that there's some on the left anyway, who they're a little bit relieved to be done with this stuff because they,

they never really believed in it and the you know the idea that they had to get up in arms because you know a man wants access to the women's changing room and and so now it's like they don't have to pretend to care about that anymore so is there is there a slight sense of relief among some on the left i i agree we're liberators now for them right i agree at the institutional level for some of these companies they're thinking you know, we were getting these calls from the Biden administration. They were they were telling us we had to do these things. And that's there. But the question of where is the day of rage people on the streets?

Here's a couple of potentials. One, it's really cold out. And so with the polar vortex coming in, it was snowing in Louisiana. It was snowing in Florida. Yeah, it's snowing in Florida. Oh, that's the apocalypse for them so it's really cold and um the truth is when it a light drizzle happens the protesters don't go outside so it could be that maybe in the next few months we'll start to see antifa come out in the streets there were some protests in washington they attacked a tp usa event and

they were smashed they smashed a window But it was it was relatively small. I wonder, however, though, with Trump winning the popular mandate. And did you guys see this? For the first time, Trump's aggregate favorability has has been has been favorable. Nice. So the first was in December by like point two. Now it's point three for in his political career. Trump is now slightly favorable. I wonder if, you know,

the thing about Antifa and these far leftists is that they're always a fringe minority of violent, of violent, violent groups, and they rely on the mass of normie general liberal disdain. Yes. So if a thousand people come out to protest and their intention is to wave little American flags and pride flags or whatever, Antifa goes into those groups and uses that as cover to be violent, causing chaos. But if most of those people don't want to protest for these things anymore, Antifa has no cover. It may be the left is very mad, but they were never very powerful to begin with.

I think they're agitators and they get people riled up. And I think the normies and the people in the middle are just fatigued and they're over it. What woke ism is is a sad like it makes people sad. It's a bad vibe. And this whole election has been a vibe check. And people are like, you know what? I think I want to be happy and not always be scolding the the sad looking white dude in the cubicle next to me. We were talking earlier about that, the vibe change, the era of America is good again. The vibe shift. It's really tangible, and I think that it's something that a lot of people feel nowadays.

People are tired of looking at the United States, which is, I don't care, I have no problem saying this, I don't care what anyone says, the United States has been an aggregate good for the world. Even if only because the U.S. keeps the seas open for trade, it has been an aggregate good for the entire world. And most people in the United States want to believe that the country they're from, the United States, is a good place full of good people and has good intentions.

And with the left being so ascendant for the past, possibly 20 years, particularly since the the the Gulf War with the war, I think people are tired of feeling like the United States is bad. And they're ready for some some optimism and some belief that the country still is a place that does good things and if you look at how many just how many illegal people you know illegal aliens have come to the united states in the past four years that says something about the rest of the world in the united states in comparison i'm curious what's going to happen with colleges because like what matt's saying with the tech world they're they're being liberated i feel like the colleges are gonna they're recalibrating to get crazier well so uh elon tweeted something that uh when you look at the appearance of certain words in academic journals i think it was journals you can see this massive spike of all these woke

terminologies and phobias and whatnot and then in the past year it started to decline oh nice interesting so we may we may see some recoil when i was a professor and you know applying for other professor jobs all the applications at the bottom they were saying they're hiring all these people except white guys, straight white guys. I'm curious how this is going to affect that. It's going to make them worse. Trump should issue an executive order that these universities, they receive federal funding. Yes. He should instruct the DOJ to go after anyone for violating the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

I'm with you. That DEI stuff is illegal. It's always been illegal. Yeah. It's a disease in the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Yeah, I'm with you. That DEI stuff is illegal. It's always been illegal. Yeah, it's a disease in the colleges. Let me show you this tweet from NWokeness that's in line with, this is interesting. The ATF was just caught rebranding their chief diversity officer to,

he wrote chief officer, but it's senior officer. Take a look at this. Oh, of course. On 1-20-2025, Lisa Boykin of the ATF, the chief diversity officer, one day later, she's a senior executive office of the director. Get her out. This is what they've been doing.

So we, right. And we heard the FBI had preemptively ended their DEI department. What they really did was they reassigned all of those employees all over to the FBI. They're trying to hide their ideologue Marxist staff. West Point got in trouble for doing it. They were getting sued. They rebranded the DEI department and they were just doing it

in a different name. They got to make sure that we have people of all different race, creed, and color burning down the next Waco. I think it's really important to them. I hope that Trump and his administration understand

that this is not over on day one and that when he signs that executive order saying DEI is over, they say, we're not DEI. Trump and his administration understand that this is not over on day one. And that when he signs that executive order saying DEI is over, they say, we're not DEI. We're the equal employment accessibility department. That's another name they're using now, the equal employment and accessibility.

Yeah. I mean, the left is very good at rebranding. I did like, they have an idea. It's really unpopular. It becomes even more unpopular. And then they rebrand the idea and then they get they get a second life out of that idea because they rebranded it so that is what you have to look out for which is why uh firing you're also going to

have to fire the people at the top of these uh agencies and departments and then install people who don't who are not motivated to go and find a way to recreate how the department of war became the department of defense yeah to your point that the the whole left like about the left rebounding that's the what the whole woke movement is when it stopped being functional for the the power dynamic to go from the working class to the the pro from the proletariat to the bourgeoisie from the working class to the property, then people like Herbert Mark Hughes had to go ahead and find new people with the revolutionary energy. I think it was in One Dimensional Man, he was talking about how because capitalism delivers the goods, and he came right out and he said that because capitalism delivers a good life for people there.

They no longer the working class no longer has the revolutionary energy. And so he specifically said that he was going to have to go to the ghettos and you're going to have to find essentially turn it from working class versus the proletariat to race to race based. Yep. You know, it's gender the whole thing exactly and so so it's it's just a repackaging of the same garbage that the left's been selling for 150 years or whatever well see in the corporate sector too monsanto sold to bear like they were getting trashed in 2010 2011 and then all of a sudden they're probably i don't know how it happened but no more monsanto i mean it still exists but it's bear now bear so reb mean, it still exists, but it's Bayer now.

Rebranding is the way you do it, man. You can keep the same infrastructure going, but just give it a different name and then hope people forget about it. The vaccines changed their names. Well, once again, that's the strategy of when you make a product that no one likes. Actually, who's a...

Okay, I shouldn't go there. There's a pop star who had put out a bunch of music. I'm not going to say her name. And everyone hated it. She rebranded and changed her name to a fake name. And now she is famous. She is very famous and loved.

She's awesome, right? Can I say who it is? Who is it? I wanted to know. Who? Lana Del Rey. Yeah. What was her name?

What was her name before? I don't know what her name was before. Wow. I don't care. That's all you got to do. You go to a marketing firm and they say, change your name. A her name? Awesome. What was her name before? I don't know what her name was before. Wow. I don't forget. I don't care. That's all you got to do. You go to a marketing firm and they say, change your name. A fake name? Your name didn't fit.

A fake sounding name? Yeah, with your sad goth girl pop music. It worked. Listen, for everyone out there that's curious, the days of Taylor Swift are over. It is now the era of Lana Del Rey. I like it. I like it. I'm into it.

Let's jump to this next story from fox news they say doj to investigate state or local officials who obstruct immigration enforcement memo trump doj wants federal prosecutors across the country to investigate sanctuary city officials who obstruct immigration enforcement okay uh this is fantastic what is it what does it mean i want to pull their funding i want to see a real i mean you're a libertarian financially i want to just pull the funding well i'm okay with that too but what this says to me is uh it's illegal to aid and abet criminals and california is in violation of federal law and the people who aid and abet the criminals should be charged in whatever capacity we have codified are we going to do that are we going to start arresting governors and and mayors you're you're you

i mean i'm getting a little excited yeah what is what is what is michael malice's uh t-shirt governors forget mo get mo i think there's normally i would say if a state made a choice interstate just leave it to the state unless it's like a horribly egregious moral you know but because these people cross state lines to get there that's the problem fair enough but and also the the the united states is charged with protecting the borders first of all and second of all the united states also has like the supremacy clause laws that are made by the united states are take supremacy over state laws so when the united states says it is illegal to enter the united states um without proper

documentation that's that's a law that the whole country has to abide by. So I don't necessarily know that you arrest a governor, but you pull funding from California. Pull that funding. They have so much money, and they brag about how much better they are. We have so much money. We have so much industry.

Put your money where your mouth is. I don't think we're going to end up arresting governors, but the left has set the precedent here i mean they arrested a president a former president to try to put him in prison so um why not i mean they've all they've done the most extreme version of that that it's possible to do by trying to put a president in prison why do they protect murderers who are here illegally i understand there's sob stories there's people who bring their kids across you're 11 years old why are we protecting murderers it's called

restorative there was also what was it 154 democrats voted not to deport illegal immigrants legal murderers also bad like murder bad this is like such a very simple we had uh rokhana on and he voted against the lake and riley act and he said his concern was that it allows the deportation of someone just for being arrested and you know we didn't really get into it but i'd like to say to him at least now is but they're here illegally right so that's what we do. When when when this is the crazy thing, like the argument is Lincoln Riley Act is any anyone here unlawfully who also commits these crimes, burglary, burglary, theft or whatever. If you are arrested, then they are to be detained by Homeland Security and deported. And his argument is, but they've not been tried. They've only been arrested.

We're not deporting them for committing burglary we're deporting them because we've arrested them they are in violation of the law already and we deport people here illegally that's it yeah i mean it's go and and to your question about why why you know why would you protect murderers but part of it is on the left it's like they don't they're not and we've seen this they they don't get very angry about violent crimes they're not because they and the reason for that is that uh i mean we had this we had this notion you're going back you know even when i was a kid we heard about you don't hear the term very often anymore a bleeding heart liberal yeah um and the idea was that if you're on the left your problem is that you're almost you're overflowing

with too much compassion. You're too sensitive. And and then, you know, and then we got to the sensitive snowflake thing. And but that was never true. It's actually on the left. They are cruelly indifferent, in fact, to suffering. And so when they hear about a violent murderer, they don't feel the innate rage and anger that everyone at this table feels uh because they just don't care that much and then that's why their compassion for criminals

it's a very cheap compassion because it's it's it is uh you know they could talk about forgiveness and let's let them be rehabilitated well it's because you don't actually care you're not actually angry about what they did yep you know wanting to punish criminals wanting to harshly punish criminals is uh that's that comes from a place of love and a thirst for justice that I think they just don't have. Most modern leftists don't value life. I think, yeah, they hate humanity. And they'll stand on dead bodies to promote whatever they want. Why is it just like a disassociative, like it hasn't happened to me, so it doesn't sound that bad from a distance i'd like to point out an example that phil had tweeted before where they show results of a study that found that conservatives tend to have compassion for

their friends and their family and the people around them and democrats and liberals tend to have compassion for inert objects like rocks i am not being mean that's the literal language of the study democrats have compassion for inert objects that's what it said and how does that how does that how do we clarify that into layman's terms? Democrats care about, don't, don't blow the mountaintop off that, you know, it's bad. We don't, we don't like that mountaintop being damaged. Don't chop down those trees. Conservatives are like, please stop abusing these children.

In Starship Troopers terms, the left loves the bugs. Yes, that's a really good way to put it. Well, you know what, it you know what it's also it's like this inversion because the natural human the natural human thing is to care the most about the people that are very closest to you yes and you know so your your your your spouse your children if you're married those people who care the most you care the most about them in the entire world of all people you prioritize them and then from there you have kind of your extended family your friends and then your community your immediate community and then your state and then your country uh and then far far down the line you care about like the whole

nation all the nations of the world and that's the natural thing but on the left they've kind of demonized that approach uh because if you look at it that way then you're small-minded and you're bigoted and you're nativist and you're all these things and so they they flip it around so that their compassion immediately goes to it goes to the broadest place the furthest away right they talk about the world and humanity and they don't have children which helps with the inversion because there's nothing close to them to love and the thing thing is that even like climate, oh, I care about the climate. Caring about that, it means nothing and it costs you

nothing because you can't, I can't do anything about the climate. I can't do anything about humanity. I can't save humanity. I can care for my children and that takes like a daily effort and sacrifice. And so they'd rather not do that. Instead, they'd rather sit back and just talk in the abstract about how they love all people everywhere. and they don't i was thinking about

that i spend any amount of time with many of these people i'll give a shout out to one of my favorite countries sweden they i know it's been a while since i was there but they love to talk about how they're not racist and they're very progressive and it's actually one of the most racist countries i've ever been to they isolate their migrants into ghettos they move they move them over decades into these isolated little communities where they are effectively outside of swedish society and even white americans that i met who had moved to sweden who were fluent in swedish said they couldn't get jobs because swedes are actually very xenophobic.

They don't like people from outside their country. They pretend to. Sorry, Sweden. That's what people told me. This is just like, look, we care about them. We gave them their own place to live. This is this is what many leftists do. They say, oh, we care so much of the plight of the oppressed people of color.

We're going to take them in. And then once no one's looking to go throw them in the back. Yeah, they'd collect them. It's like McDonald's Happy Meal toys on the the drive over i was thinking about the difference of the left and the right and i tend to it's not just the two sides but in this political instance there's the people that care about the group and the power and the strength of community and group that's the left is like together we are strong you know that's the fascist crap whatever together and there is something to that a group is way more effective than a single person in a lot of ways

but then on the right it's more about individual taking care of yourself and your immediate surroundings which also has value a lot of value because a group is made up of individuals so if you don't empower the individuals you're you have a weak group a group of weaklings and you don't want that so it but it's also dangerous to be too far right where you're like look i only care about my immediate surroundings and I don't care at all about the group because it's very important that we do make sure that people aren't crapping in the water upstream, you know, because there are people living downstream. And one day that's going to come back to you. And there's just there's a balance, you know, there's a there's a fluctuation between, I think, both sides that you have to maintain yeah that that's a good point and the the other thing about immigration and they're the kind of the compassion of it they're they're how their position is

supposedly compassionate is it's like it's very funny to me in a morbid way how open these people are about the fact that what they're really concerned about is that they're going to lose their slave labor and uh and you know we heard it from that you know the woman who gave the the fake bishop who gave her sermon right who's gonna mop our floors who's gonna pick our crops who's gonna shine my shoes if we don't have the illegals here that's exactly how they think of it i mean even beyond that a lot of a lot of the people who come in illegally end up homeless or they live just in hotels they don't they don't actually have what we would consider a good life here and i think that all of the ngos and democrats know that and they don't care how many children were lost coming over that border they don't care thousands

don't care well they don't value the children's lives either child abuse and abduction and you know sexual assault and things like that it's just we don't talk about that because bringing them over here is is for some reason better graph go up and they can't they can't build a good life in their their homes of origin either because you know it's kind of like if we if you listen to the left they say oh well all these immigrants are coming and they're very useful and they they are very skilled and they're doing a lot of important things um well if that's true then what you're telling me is that the the countries they're coming from are losing everyone they need to like build a functioning society so this is a win-win you send them back

there they can build up their own countries to be this thriving place and we can live in the in a multicultural world where all the countries are strong. You would think that they'd be in favor of that. I mean, I'm sympathetic to the fact that other countries have really corrupt governments. I think that's a reality, but I don't think that problem is getting solved. We're not addressing any of these root problems. We're just making everything worse and ruining our foreign policy. We can certainly solve our problems. Let's jump to the story from CNN, of all sources. U.S. military ordering thousands more troops to the southern border. I believe

the number is around 1,500. Donald Trump is certainly taking this seriously. And then we have this tweet from OSINT defender. CNN is reporting that U.S. Transportation Command has been instructed by the Pentagon to prepare prepare to use military assets including c-130 and c-17 military transport aircraft for migrant repatriation flights so trump ain't screwing around wow i love it wow and then it's got to be done right it's got to be done by the book the last thing we want is when you get when you get operations this large there's a lot of there's a lot of room for error and abuse and the margin of error on this one is going to be slim you cannot be abusing women and children when we're when we're deporting people

who are here illegally that is a nightmare scenario and the left is going to be looking for their yeah they're going to be looking for their immigrant george floyd you know their their jose floyd moment and uh and And you can't give it to them. But this is also going to be very telling because right now the polls show that a strong majority of Americans support mass deportation. 70%. 70%, which that's huge. In America these days, if you can get 70% on anything, that's quite telling. So now we're gonna get um

all of the misery porn from the media and we're gonna see all the sobbing migrants we're already seeing some of that they're gonna ramp it up so check the poll like a month from now i want to see that poll again if it's still at 70 around there in support then the left is done on this issue i mean they're finished there's there's one more thing that I want to say I heard today. They're sending Marines to the border and they're not sending them as toothless. They're sending them in combat gear and they have orders that if the cartels shoot at them, they're going to be ordered to return fire. And that honestly is a very good thing in my opinion. I know this is making Angela a little nervy. A little scary.

The United States is the biggest trading partner Mexico has. Mexico has every incentive to stop working with the cartels and start working with the United States to fix this problem. Mexico has been allowing immigrants to cross through their country for ages and ages. And they've been shoving people into the United States. The United States taking a firm stance and saying, you are not sending people into the United States anymore. And we're going to put teeth behind those words is a good thing. It's a horribly corrupt government. Absolutely.

The border is a mess. When I was in Yuma, you could just see that the border agents just let them come over. They throw the ladders, the homemade ladders over the wall. They climb over. They get a ride to the facility

and a plane ticket to someone who has a phone who picks up the phone in any state in this country. And as I bring up as often as I can, thanks to the work of Dr. Phil,

many of these people are trafficking children to prostitution. And CBP knows. They know they're doing it. Yep. So I've gone as far as to say that the officers who have brought a child into this country, seen the phone number on their arm, called it, knowing it was sex trafficking,

they should be prosecuted. I think so. I think so. Absolutely. I mean, this is like a real libertarian hotspot. Our party's platform is technically open borders. I think a lot of people are starting to come around though because this is insanity you can't just say well it's you know we just

want to have free movement of people do whatever you want okay what are we talking about literally like free movement of people like we're picking them up and packaging them and selling them because that's slavery we're not pro-slavery yeah i mean there's the idea of open borders can be great right the idea of legalized drugs so that way people don't have to go to jail for for for smoking marijuana sounds great you gotta have property rights there's a lot of things property right there's a lot i think both those ideas sound terrible but the reason that they sound terrible is because you know the ramifications.

You know the repercussions. You know what it does to society. And that's the point. The actual application of these things is bad and has really, really, really bad downstream effects. Wasn't it that Austin Peterson got booed when he was asked if people should should be allowed to sell was it

heroin to children probably heroin to children and then you hear libertarians going boo yeah that is so true i mean he said no to heroin to children yeah and he got booed for it it's because it's because yeah it's okay to laugh at libertarians it's okay you can laugh at us um we have a special term for the people who do that. It's called Lulberts. What's the argument for it? Freedom! What are they saying in their minds? The government shouldn't do it.

The private sector should do it. Okay, then we have to have a moral society and that begins by not booing it. We don't have a moral society. And it's a problem. It's a spiritual problem. Doesn't it go back, because libertarians, you hear,

the government shouldn't legislate morality. So is that basically their argument, that to prevent children from getting heroin is somehow imposing a moral code arbitrarily? But they won't follow it up by saying, and we should shame and ostracize and run out of business anyone who tries to sell heroin to children. Yeah, but the other thing that I don't get, because libertarians believe that there should be some laws, correct?

It depends. Well, so there's a lot of anarchists who lump themselves in with libertarianism. So you'll also find just minimal government libertarians. They want police and military just to keep our border secure. Yeah. Well, that's what gets me is that if you, I guess if you are rejecting all law entirely, that's a whole different, I think that's insane, but it's a whole different thing. But the don't legislate morality thing never made any sense to me because literally any

law that's ever been passed in the history of mankind in any country anywhere has been a legislation of morality. And that's a great that is that's the basis for the why is something made illegal well because it's bad which doesn't doesn't mean that every bad thing is made illegal but that is why it's made illegal we treat it like property rights issues as opposed to you know like um church lady issues i guess to to put it crudely does that make sense we actually didn't need laws for a long time when when society was a bit smaller yes you didn't need it because people

just agreed to function in the society whether something was right or wrong the reason guy would come in and beat you up yeah well but sanctioned by the people yeah they just watch it happen what happens is as societies um as as cultures break apart and you get many different cultures, you begin to have to write down the way things should be and show them to people. And there's this I think the guys, if I get your name wrong, forgive me, I think it's Wade Stotz. He's a commentator and he made this great video about how a constitution. What does it mean? Where's the word word come from it's what constitutes the people and we didn't most most countries didn't write them down because the idea was the people and what constitutes them is known to the people but in the united states understanding in the early days that we had so many different states and people lived different

climates and everything they said we we better write this. So where we are now is it's actually quite simple. Matt, if everybody shared your moral structure and worldview, you would need no police and no standing armies. And for the libertarian world to be a perfect place, if everyone just agreed, everyone just admitted that I'm right. That's absolutely true. Women would work the gossip line effectively to keep people in line socially. Nobody would take care of the outliers. the shopping carts would be put away every time until someone runs out of food and then it's like even if they're believe what matt believes it's like hey nope give me some food he's like hey it's my food perfectly let me let me ask you this matt if if you came across

someone from your community where you live that you knew and their house had burned down and they were desperate would you offer them any kind of charity or aid? Sure. And your neighbors would, too. In a just and moral society, where does insurance come from? Original insurance was when people lived near each other, if my house burns down, you help me rebuild, because if yours burned down, I help you rebuild.

We were a community that shared values, shared morals. In the United States, they would go to church every week. You still needed law, though. I mean, even in. In the United States, they would go to church every week. You still need a law, though. I mean, even in a just and moral society, unless we're talking about a literal utopia where everybody is perfect and we're... Connected by like a neural net. Or we're talking about heaven, you know.

Strong cultural norms. This is a pure hypothetical suggestion. There's no way in reality that literally everyone on this planet would be like i have the exact moral foundations correct of matt walsh 100 but i know matt and i believe this is true for many uh people in the united states of all different backgrounds but largely of christians that if they all shared the same moral values, there would be no need for police. Yeah.

Well, I would say even if they share the same moral values, there certainly is a need for police and laws unless so sharing the value. I mean, you can share values. You can have certain values and violate those values and still do bad things, you know, so someone can have great christian values and truly believe in them and then go to they could go commit murder i mean it can happen um but you never would right i wouldn't but but just because someone does something bad or commits a crime it doesn't mean because they it doesn't mean that they didn't have those values it just means they

violate those values because we're flawed fallen species so fair if everyone shares the same values you still need law if we lived in some sort of utopia where everybody shares and actually follows a perfect moral system, then in that case, sure. But that's what I mean. It's a hypothetical that doesn't exist. And so we write things down because it doesn't exist. Yeah. I mean, I don't think of it as utopia. You know, I'm not ever trying to achieve utopia or anything realistic i think what i'm trying to do

especially right now since i've been sort of thrust into this real world uh politicking is what is the bare minimum and can we shave off all of this crap that we've been talking about where the justice system has been weaponized and abused and it's grown into just this this monster like what is the bare minimum that we can function at and what is preventing us from functioning at that bare minimum is it hordes of people from another culture who are here trying to take advantage of people are trying to take advantage of them as they come in you know like is it uh marxism in academia like what is preventing us from being our very best i think it's a lack of communication about morality because you can have people try and compensate

for a lack of good with more law. And that's a big problem. So you want to shave down the laws to minimum, but also enhance the good. And that's a conversation because it's a group. The group has to agree on that. Let me, I guess, whittle that down in another way. You're right.

I think there's another way to say it. And it's that the United States has become increasingly less religious. Yeah. This is a country where the founding documents are largely built upon the Christian moral tradition. Whether the founding fathers were deist, secular, or otherwise doesn't matter. We talk about it quite a bit, but many of the amendments, the ideas of property rights, they are literally rooted in the Christian moral tradition. And over the past several decades, past couple of generations, we have what Dennis Prager referred to as, I think he calls it cut stem or cut flower politics, where we have removed a generation from the roots of this nation,

and we hold to the flower and talk about how beautiful it is as it withers and dies. Yes. So what you're saying is that we're not having the conversation around morality. Well, it used to be that kids would go to church and kids would have a moral tradition in their faith. I'm not telling everyone you have to believe in God or be Christian. I'm saying with that, there were people who grew up and were raised to to function under a certain structure. We don't have that now. Now, now kids grow up and they watch a dude uh dry hump satan on tv and the morals are just completely gone even worse though is the fact that we have people parading them themselves

around as supposed christians like the heretic bishop in this city exactly they've recreated christ in their own image it's insane so these people think they're christian and they're they're just they've mutilated the idea of it. And it creates this kind of incoherence, which is to your point that, you know, at a certain point, it all starts to break down. You have to understand why,

you know, you can have laws in place, you can have these principles in place, but why are they there? And, and even something as basic as, uh, the concept of a right,

you know, human right. And we, we think of this as like this universal concept. And we think of it now as a the concept of a right you know you've a human right and we think of this as like this universal concept and we think of it now as a secular concept even um and people who are totally secular and atheists talk about human rights all the time but all you have to do is just go go follow the thread of a human right just just follow it for you know a few steps and you get to a point where well wait a second like what does that mean where does that come from a human right in and of itself is a religious concept spark of divinity right and if because if there is no god our our our notion of human rights in

this country is built on the idea that where there's a creator god and because we were created by god we have this we have this inherent human dignity and from there springs our human rights well if there's no god then what do you mean right like what are you talking about i have a right what do you mean you have a right to then a right is nothing but a totally arbitrary thing that was written on a piece of paper uh and then the people what that means is that you could just take it off the piece of paper and it doesn't make any sense for you to say wait a minute minute, you took away my rights. And this is why the liberals argue

as if the Constitution granted us rights. Yes. As opposed to the reality in which we are endowed by our creator. The Constitution recognized our rights. Their rights are connected to false gods and they have no moral center. A lot of why people have rejected religion,

in my opinion, is because they're rejecting authority and being told by a preacher or a priest. This is the way it is because you've seen corruption within churches from time to time. But the thing is, there's always going to be an author in your life. There's always an external authority. And that becomes the television if you're not careful. When you talk to talk to a lot of atheists and agnostic people, it really they tend to sound like teenagers that are mad at their dad that when it when it when it boils down to it. And I'm a guy that's generally pretty agnostic.

And I still see the impact that religion has. I see the necessity for it. I see, you know, I acknowledge the fact that there's been no human civilization in all of human history that didn't have religion. It's likely that even pre humans like neanderthals and other other uh human species had religion as well so the idea that religion is something that we can just throw away is a ridiculous proposition um and and when you listen to people that that you know want to be modern atheists or whatever they always sound, I don't need a sky daddy. It's like, well, now you just sound like a kid

that's mad at his dad because he took away his Nintendo. But they want the government to be a sky daddy. Well, that's the thing. It always replaces it. Yeah. Instead of tower to heaven, tower of Babel, it feels like it's the inverse,

like bureaucratic ladder to hell. That's the cultural vibe. Let's jump to the story because it's not all bad news. We got this from the Post Millennial. Pride flags removed from U.S. outposts worldwide. Absolutely great news. Starting immediately, only the United States of America flag is authorized to be flown. Should have always been the case.

That's kind of reasonable for U.s proper basis standing in front of what is that another country's flag that's i think it's that's is it i hope not the trump administration has implemented the new one flag policy requiring all u.s embassies and government outposts both domestic and international to exclusively fly the American flag. It is absolutely creepy. And a bit terrifying. That U.S. embassies and outposts were flying a flag of ideology. It's just about sexuality too. Super weird.

Well no they put the black and the brown stripe on it. And often flying them in countries. It's a deliberate act of antagonizing a lot of these countries. Countries that don't believe in this nonsense. And this is another one of those things that, you know, it, it,

it goes to show that what we consider conservative policy ideas, the vast majority of them are really just common sense. And they have wide approval because if you go, I don't care left, right center. And if, if someone had no context and you ask them well do you think uh do you think it makes sense for embassies to only fly american flags american embassies like almost

everyone said well yeah of course what else would they fly what do you mean uh and yet these kinds of things were happening all over the place uh and as much as the left talks about democracy and the will of the people they were happening even though the vast majority of people don't support it and the only reason they got away with it is because the vast majority of people didn't really know that it was happening and everybody knows to to you know reference the the comment that i was just making is everyone knows that if you put up a you know flag with a christian cross on it or anything like that the left would have had an absolute aneurysm and those flags are without a doubt a religious flag to the left so the the

fact that these things are being taken down the the left is having an absolute fit about it because you're you're mocking their religion and they really look like they had conquered christianity in the united states which i think would be a terrible thing again even though i'm you know i'm generally an agnostic dude i think that having gender ideology as the religion that the united states worships i think that's there's probably nothing that's worse for society considering what you end up with is cutting the body parts off of children it's pretty perverse i think it's reasonable to take religious iconography off of u.s bases and i don't know what u.s outposts are i haven't really heard that term thrown around i know u.s embassies i i i don't necessarily agree i actually have no real concern of uh christian iconography and in government

places the way the liberals really do uh it's also historical in our courts we swear they swear on bibles they offer up other other texts when when the president is being sworn in they offer up a bible oh they offer it yeah put trump didn't touch the bible yeah i guess people upset about that but whatever and this it's it's it's there's been an effort throughout my life to try and make the claim that the u.s government should never have these things but are part of our moral tradition and so if i go to a court building or i go to an embassy and there's something related to christianity i'm. It's just normal. It's been that way in this country for a long time.

It is the root of our of our morality in this country. To replace that with an insane ideology that harms children is devastating. So I think the philosophy, the philosophical approach I've been taking this the way I've been approaching this for the past, I guess, a year or so has been more post-liberal. This idea of these universal principles apply to all things is just incorrect. And this, as an example, came when I was debating Bobby Sauce on the issue of TikTok. And he said, look, we don't believe in big government, so we shouldn't give the government the power to do these things. And my point was, there are some things that are morally good there are some things that are morally bad just because we ban one doesn't mean we ban all and just be you know

people make the argument that you know if we don't if we don't ban the left if if we implement a law that will stop the left from doing this one bad thing later on they can use it against us and it's like okay well they're doing a bad thing now we're not gonna let them keep doing it just because one day someone might do another bad thing we we stop things we don't like that are bad and that is they're flying these flags of ideology that are abhorrent and have been destructive this country stop christianity i mean largely good well okay this is a little bit of tangent but what what's up with the cross like it's what they killed the dude with if if you your prophet was murdered with a gun you wouldn't put a gun on a flag and like fly that thing so like the cross is

a prophet well it's it jesus christ's sacrifice and death was uh the salvation of mankind and so that's what the cross signifies it's salvation i feel like and a stark reminder of what was sacrificed which was like pretty it's pretty heavy stuff there and a stark reminder of what was sacrificed which was like pretty it's pretty heavy stuff there but like if jesus was like i'm not gonna do it i'm not gonna do it they're like then die and they put a gun to his head and killed him and then they put the gun on the flag i'd be like bro he still got sacrificed but okay okay first of all you're arguing something entirely different i know it's not it's not even but i want to stress this that uh there is this as i mentioned this this long-standing effort my whole life to

say that religion should be entirely separate the separation of church and state and all of these things but it is in our constitution in in our founding documents in the in the in it literally what helped the founding fathers craft this country that worked so well was quite quite uh literally the christian religion i am not a christ Christian. I don't follow the same beliefs as Matt, and some people have told me I will burn it out, whatever, but I understand logic, and I can look at the history of this country and see where we are and why we got here and the beliefs that led us to this place

and say, those were good things, largely. Some things we progressed upon. We got rid of slavery. We did things like that, which means we've improved upon ourselves. How did we come to the point where we developed these ideas, wrote them down, and it's our moral tradition? So again, if I see a school and they tell kids, like, here are some of the things that we believe, we want to put the Ten Commandments in a courtroom or whatever, I'm like, yeah, I don't care. It's the Ten Commandments. I'm also not offended by Hammurabi's coat. So much of this is also

historical. It's like we just threw out common sense and wisdom. Yes. And these things, to your point, you don't have to like it. It doesn't matter how you feel about it. It is just a fact that our system of government is built on Christian ideals. It just simply is. And so this is part of our history. It's part of our identity as a nation, which is why you're exactly right that there is a major difference

between a freaking pride flag and a cross. The pride flag has nothing to do with the history of this nation. Nothing good has ever been achieved under the pride flag. Now, the cross, and I know you were being a bit, you didn't mean it totally seriously, and I hear this kind of comment, well, why the cross? And you say it in kind of a flippant way, but it's a valid question. Why that?

And the answer is that Christ's death and resurrection was our salvation. But also, the cross itself, and if you're not a Christian, you don't get it. It doesn't mean a lot to you. I understand that but this our civilization was built under this symbol you know people marched under this symbol not just in this country but across the western world and we we live in the civilization that we do and every good thing that we have in our lives is is really because people believed in the cross and and they went out and they did incredible things and they fought and they died uh for the sake of the cross um and so i think that even if i wasn't christian and it's hard

for me to put myself in that mindset but even even if I wasn't Christian, as someone who respects history and who is a big fan of Western civilization, the civilization I live in, it's a great civilization, I would still have a respect for the cross for that reason alone. It radically changed. Exactly my position.

Christianity radically changed the way that people deal with each other, our human interactions. Women were treated much better through Christianity. we were no longer considered like cattle um it doesn't mean that we're the same as men or that we need to be you know weird freaky only only fans sex people you know slaves were treated better oh that's so terrible slate well it was a it was the precedent across the entire globe. And slavery was abolished. Through Christianity.

Through Christianity. The reason why we live in this country right now and why this whole hemisphere is not currently dominated by stone-aged, savage cultures who rip the hearts out of their enemies and eat them and kill and enslave women and children. The reason why that's not the case is that people came here primarily

to spread the Christian gospel. People need to watch Apocalypto. Oh, it's great. Mel Gibson does a real good job, doesn't he? I believe in the power of Christianity and the general ethos of the meaning of the story and everything, a lot about it. But I'm also nervous about icons and worshiping icons because the whole elon threw his hand out and it's like bro

it's the meaning behind the symbol like the swastika was the wheel of life was the turning of life the hindu symbol of of peace or whatever it meant but it was a a healthy symbol of growth and change and then this wild ideological party came along and co-opted it and made it seem like I've got to implore you to maybe perhaps watch some George Carlin comedy. There's a 1992, I think it was 92 special where George Carlin literally says every racial slur imaginable and then ends by, by calling Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor, the N word.

Let me finish. And everyone laughs. And then George Carlin says, it's not the word. It's the man behind them. And you know that I don't actually feel that way about these guys. The point he was making was that the actions of the individual matter, when Elon Musk grabs his chest and then grunts and throws his arm,

my heart goes out to you and he throws his energy out to the field. It doesn't matter if it resembled the roman salute it matters the man behind what had happened and elon was not hailing hitler or praising an ideology he was literally saying thanks to all of you my heart goes out to you yeah so what we ask ourselves what is the intention and who is the man behind the words elon musk was not in the in the process of being a white supremacist. No one really believes that Elon Musk is a Nazi. Of course he's not. And if we lived in a saner culture,

then we could just have a laugh about it. It's objectively kind of funny that he made that gesture and what it meant for him was, I'm sending my heart out to you. That's just funny. So you laugh at it and then you move on uh but to your point about about icons i mean it goes back to not all icons are the same but also uh this is just part of what it means to be a human being like we symbolism and icons uh it means something to us i think it's one of the things that makes us people. I mean, if you show a symbol means nothing to, you know, a monkey or a rhinoceros, it means nothing to them.

But to human beings, we imbue these things with meaning. And now if you want to get really, you know, utilitarian about it, and it's like, well, why? I mean, why that exact collection of lines and stuff that looks like, like, why does that matter? You know, and you could dissect it to death, but I think sort of the answer is, well, just because we're human. I mean, it's because we're human. Sacred geometry of things like cymatics where vibration will cause certain shapes.

Human language, written language, these are all symbols. Letters are just symbols that mean something else, that stand for something else. It's actually quite simple. I can explain to you iconography. They're simply human compression files. That's it. When Matt Walsh sees the symbol of the cross, all of the information related to Christianity is light up in his mind. I think about this, the Hebrew the uh the hebrew alphabet the

ancient analogy the ancient text of the hebrew alphabet i think they were sitting like if you study cymatics where you'll change the frequency and you have like sand on a vibrating membrane it'll it'll you get these wild shapes and patterns will appear depending on what frequency so these dudes are on a beach and they're they have a goat skin and they're playing the drums and they're throwing sand gets on the drums and they go oh they make a certain sound and then it makes a certain pattern and they're like whoa so they write that pattern down and they remember that's the sound of that shape and that's where alphabet comes from potentially that's all right i i don't think that's true because there's many different languages that have different symbols

for different sounds that's true but let's jump to this next story we've got this one from 404 media tiktok says it is not censoring Free Palestine comments. Users see something different. Well, we have this video where it says TikTok is dead. Free Palestine is now considered a symbol of hate speech. Take a look at this video. So in it, you can see them type in Free Palestine as a comment. They then, they're watching Hassan of all people,

go to their notifications and refresh and refresh and sure enough, they show system notification, a comment you posted on the date was removed for violating our community guidelines. Now, apparently a bunch

of people are reporting this, that when you go on tiktok and type in free palestine you will get the comment removed we can see a bunch of these comment details free palestine removed uh 404 media uh i'm sorry that looks like an ad or whatever but many people are reporting the same thing uh 404 media reports several tiktok users posted screenshots on x and blue sky showing a message they received after trying to comment Free Palestine. They're going to say, I tried this myself on Tuesday morning using two different throwaway TikTok accounts. Using one account, I could comment Free Palestine without a problem.

The comment is still up. Using another, my Free Palestine comments were immediately removed repeatedly. And I received a notification that I had violated the TikTok community guidelines. I could comment with a nonsense phrase, free shavacado, using the same account, however, and TikTok didn't remove it. A spokesperson for TikTok told 404,

the platform's policies and algorithms did not change over the weekend, adding that they're working on restoring U.S. operations back to normal. What I've heard from a lot of these people, they believe is a conspiracy. That when TikTok went dark,ald trump took it over and that it was now it's now under the control of israeli interests or something that is that illegal is that illegal to say in another country did they plug in the wrong country palestine is it i don't know i don't think it's

illegal to say anywhere like i don't even think in Israel it's illegal to say. Pretty wild. Now, free Israel. If you said something like pro-Israel, there's a lot of countries that absolutely would you'd get in trouble for. I think in Malaysia it's a crime to defend Israel. I could be wrong. Whether they're being coerced into this or they're just like, whatever we got to do to maintain presence in the United States. You want us to ban the enemy of the country you're supporting in war?

Then we'll ban it. Whatever you got to do. We want us to ban the enemy of the country you're supporting in war, then we'll ban it. Whatever you got to do. We want our spy tech in your country. I don't support it, but I don't know what's going on. I mean, this is really vague. Well,

look, at least you can still shout free Shavacado. That is really encouraging. That's my, that's my, that's my, that's my number one issue. I think everyone should just switch over to saying that.

And if that gets banned, then you'll know. Delicious food, by free shavacado oh yeah shavacado from the river to the sea iran iraq kuwait lebanon libya saudi arabia syria yemen are listed as having some restriction on uh expressions of support for israel so there there are a lot of countries i don't know that any country bans you saying anything about palestine though interesting just a private company so the reason why this story is pretty big is because the argument was and i believe this is true it was only after uh october 7th and uh pro-palestinian content became prominent on tiktok that democrats got on board with republicans to uh force china to divest

i believe as we've gone over ad nauseum, for those of you that watch every show, we pulled the data from Axios that seems to suggest TikTok made an algorithmic change to promote pro-Palestinian content. After October 7th, there was 123,000 pro-Palestine comments. It was I stand with Palestine. Only 11 million views. In the next week, with 87,000, it jumped to 285 million views which is indicative of an algorithmic push i am not telling you to support one country or another that's not what i'm saying i'm saying after this change happened democrats all of a sudden changed their tune and said yeah we actually think this app should be banned now if it is true that tiktok is actually banning free palestine perhaps they are trying to now court favor with those that sought their forced divestiture i'm

confused is it that democrats don't like palestine or they don't like china democrats are uh presumably the argument is um after this presumed this is what appears to be an algorithmic change many groups lobbied to democrats saying china has altered the algorithm in a way that subverts U.S. foreign policy interests. I see. Now, depending on which bubble you live in on the Internet, maybe you think the Jews control the world. These people think that Israel went and told them we, is going to be terrifying to American politicians. And so they're going to say, hey, that's a security threat. And as much as a lot of people who hate Israel are saying it's a conspiracy, that's true.

No, these politicians were on TV talking about this. Democrats and Republicans went on TV and said the support, you know, the attacks on israel that we see on the platform it's bad for this country so this has some people not speculating that tiktok was either seized which is the conspiracy by the u.s or this is what they need to do to to avoid being banned which is not the case but it's kind of annoying why don't they just change their algorithm so that people can say free palestine without it becoming prioritized and like fake trending just down rank it shadow ban it let it be what it is it is don't give it any particular rank just yeah just let it but that's kind of a form of shadow banning but no no it doesn't matter algorithms can't do that algorithms what if they automate the algorithm it is going to swing in one direction based on what the

program dictates and that's going to go before or against american foreign policy interests and as we know in the united states for the longest time up until recently our our social media was absolutely prioritizing the federal government's policy interests over the free speech of the american people and this i mean trump is more pro-israel it seems than biden was he he canceled foreign aid to every country on earth except israel he's like pro and a couple israel but also pro make a deal so palestinian people could stop being killed too like i think he's just i think he's better on this just across the board than biden was the the reason i even brought that up is because i think that's why you're seeing this shift is because they're they're sympathetic to trump being in office now like well he's pro-israel so let's go a little less

yeah they want it it's all business tiktok is going to want to operate four years safely so they're going to throw trump and conservatives a bone or whoever needs to hear it and then once trump's out of office they're going to bomb the algorithm with dylan mulvaney and other like-minded ideas that subvert the minds of the next generation. And right now, it seems that many people in the conservative movement are in favor of what TikTok is doing. I think it's terrifying. Can you clarify that you said a couple other countries too?

He didn't cancel foreign aid too. I don't know anything. I believe there was a couple others. Do you know off the top of your head? No, I think there was two others. Cancel as much as we can. That makes me so, so happy. No more welfare queens across the world.

I mean, I'm surprised that they wouldn't censor something like from the river to the sea instead of free Palestine, which seems a little bit more innocuous. I mean, I'm surprised that I'm surprised that it is. If it is being censored, it surprises me. It surprises me, too. That's that's really not that's not a scary phrase i understand the arguments that like talking about hang gliders and freedom fighters of people who murdered other people okay but it's like free palestine okay well you know even if i disagree with those they should be allowed there you go and it sucks but I'm just surprised. I heard that Trump paused for an aid.

And then yesterday someone said, except for Israel. I think there are others. Israel, Jordan, and Egypt, if I understand correctly. I looked that up. Is that confirmed? That's what the information that I have. I can't see. When I looked up, I didn't see that.

But let me try and get direct source hopefully we don't get more aggressive social media censorship oh geez I mean if the thing about TikTok is it is owned by ByteDance which serves the CCP in a lot of ways totally crazy you know unhinged platform it's like I mean I don't know the Chinese Communist Party I don't know anyone in the party I would love to but uh I have heard like, yo, that's very bad. What they're doing is wrong. What they're doing is heavy censorship. I mean, like full force, just violent, shutting down protests like the Tiananmen Square massacre

apparently was horrific. So I wouldn't be even remotely surprised if they're just like smack it. They have Uyghurs in concentration camps. They're terrible. I don't know that those countries are exempt. Oh, really? Let me just read just to make sure. So I'm reading the executive order.

It says 90-day pause in United States foreign development assistance for assessment of programmatic efficiencies and consistency with United States foreign policy. All department agency heads with responsibility for United States foreign development assistance programs shall immediately pause new obligations and disbursements of development assistance funds to foreign countries and implementing non-governmental organizations, international organizations and contractors pending reviews of such programs for programmatic efficiency and consistency with the United States policy to be connected with 90 days of this order. The office, the OMB shall enforce this, blah, blah, blah.

PBS is reporting that some of the biggest recipients of U.S. assistance, Israel, Egypt and Jordan are unlikely to see dramatic reductions as those amounts are included in long-term packages that date back decades or in some cases governed by treaty obligations. Sure, that's presumptive. That's them saying perhaps. The executive order doesn't have any exceptions. It literally just says we're going to review all four in it. Nice.

So he could, like, right before he signs the order, be like, send them $100 billion. All right, no more. He could he could no but he didn't the president can't just give money like that oh you're right it's an act of congress yeah right so uh this is a lot of these executive orders are interesting because congress will pass a law like the tiktok ban for instance is a law passed by congress signed by the president upheld by the supreme court trump has no authority to stop that. He can instruct federal law enforcement not to enforce it, but he cannot take away the penalties from companies.

He tried to, but that's not within the scope of the president's powers. So as of right now, once again, Google has not restored TikTok. Trump's executive order was largely meaningless. I think this is wild. I mean, okay, it's an act of Congress. I'm not a fan. I don't think they did it right. No, I'm not a fan. I'm a big fan of the ban of TikTok. Tell me more. Tell me why. We why would we allow a foreign country to control mass media in the United States and a strong portion? Not the biggest, not a majority, but a strong portion of our economy. Couldn't we have worked out some other sort of deal so that didn't happen um change your algorithm don't open source the algorithm propaganda and give the u.s full control of it i don't know if we even need full control but it's like can we actually see what's going on maybe just a little bit of transparency nope because then they just show us that they're screwing over gen z and gen alpha and we watch them do it uh look what

people need to understand about tiktok or any other social media platform even x facebook youtube etc etc is that they're going to apply a a the system is going to be built on on pressures they can apply what youtube did and this is proven by data was they created a recommendation algorithm that favored the left by a small percentage, but substantial, with the intention of stopping Donald Trump. There was a researcher in Australia who posted this, and you could see that if you went to a conservative YouTuber's channel, after you watched their video, there was a certain percentage of recommendation that would be liberal-leaning.

If you went to a liberal channel, you would get very little, if any, conservative. Meaning, if someone said, hey, watch this video about immigration from Matt Walsh, and you clicked on it, after you were done, it would autoplay a liberal arguing the opposite. If someone said, hey, watch this video from the Young Turks, and you clicked it, the next video would be another liberal arguing the same thing that creates a flow towards the ideology they want. Tick tock is doing that. Look, there was a. Is it different than what YouTube does, though? I mean, how different is it? The difference is that in the United States, I can file a lawsuit against YouTube.

We can elect a president who then issues an executive order and YouTube bends the knee and apologizes i can file lawsuits about violation of contracts i can't do that with the chinese communist party tiktok is owned by china though i thought it was not the entire company right it's a small percentage that and that's why they have to divest from it because uh they do collect the data some of the reports that have come up uh about what tiktok collects they inject javascript key loggers if you open any links through the app. And it's been reported, and this could be wrong, reported that it collects data from other apps on your phone. That data goes outside this country to a foreign adversary. But I'm not even as concerned.

That's very terrifying if those reports are true. Maybe they're not. The worrying thing to me is that Dylan Mulvaney had 13 million followers followers and riley gaines had 600 000 that stuff's patently obvious prominent trump supporting and conservative voices were banned and that's why that's why trump and conservatives came out initially and said we have to shut this down they're attempting to swing the politics of the united states let me let me ask you because this is an issue that i haven't staked out very uh very firm ground on uh which is one of the things that sucks about what we do is that issue that i haven't staked out very uh very firm ground on uh which is one of the things that sucks about what we do is that everything that happens you're never allowed to

go i'm not sure exactly how i feel about that you have to immediately know exactly how you feel but that's that sometimes i'm just like okay i can kind of see from both ways um and this is one of those things i can kind of see it both ways my my and and i i do agree with you that to me, the more compelling aspect of the argument is about how this is harmful to kids and how it's polluting the minds of children. To me, just as a parent, the way that I think, I care more about that. The stuff about the Chinese government is, well, it's like everything we do on our phone, nothing we do is private. All the information is out there. It's hard to even fearmonger about that stuff anymore. None of us have any privacy at all.

But that part does resonate. But then my issue with that is, okay, so you ban TikTok. Well, then there's approximately 600 billion other websites and apps that are just as harmful to the young mind. And then they just go to that. So part of me thinks if we're going to get to the point now, like banning an app, that's a big step. And I'm not necessarily opposed to big steps. Sometimes you got to, especially to protect kids. I'm big steps.

Okay. But it's like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't start with TikTok. I would start with like, we're not OnlyFans. I mean, it's literally a prostitution app. This is a multi-billion dollar cyber prostitution ring. Why don't we ban that? And then get to start talking about some of these social media apps. So the way I view it is we here in the United States have a set of rules laws and absolutely let's have congress ban only fans

or at least uh require submitted ids to these things to prove your age that yeah and and and protect children the way we would in the real world and just and so my view is largely uh two things can be bad so right now my concern is uh i'll put it this way youtube facebook x they were manipulating us for political political ends and we challenged them there were whistleblowers there were journalists who did great work there were lawsuits that we won that got information revealed there were debates at a debate with uh twitter's executives with joe rogan and we won we called them out and we swayed the american mind and we have affected positive change imperfect but positive change so far we will never know what the algorithm of tiktok does tiktok is banned in china they won't let their kids watch it they don't let their country use it

and bite dance which is uh chinese owned and owns a portion of tiktok has access to the data as well as control over the algorithm and you know in china in china if the communist party comes to you and says do it they will so i understand that there are many different bad things china buying farmland is a bad thing let's stop that too i think only fans is horrifying and there should be restrictions uh i don't think it is a simple issue of this is an app that's bad for the minds of our kids so we're going to ban it it's this is out of the control and scope of the united states we can ban only fans we can file lawsuits we can change the law we have changed the law for tiktok it's not a ban it's a forced

divestiture. So China can sell off their portion to an American company, and then it's no problem. Yeah, I will say that, being still kind of on the fence on it, I will say that to see some conservatives, I mean, if you're a conservative,

you're like, well, I'm against the ban for these principled reasons. Okay, I can get that. But I am uncomfortable to see some conservatives that seem like have circled the wagon around TikTok to the point that they're now like very pro-TikTok, where TikTok is a good thing. And no matter where you stand on the ban,

we should all at least be on the same page that this is just objectively not good. Like to have kids who just spend all day scrolling this damn thing and watching these videos your whole life is this i mean we've got kids this is their whole life now their whole life is just and i know i'm a billion other people complain about this but it is this is this is a major crisis to have entire generations of kids who this it's not even a human existence it's like it's this it's this robotic existence of just staring mindlessly at this and you're having your mind controlled by an algorithm uh so we should at least all remember you're staying on

the band it's like this is not a good thing and we should all be able to agree on that at least agreed and have you seen our breakdown of dylanvaney's content in the past? I'm not assuming you did. I'm assuming you probably haven't. No, I don't think so. We we when when this whole Dylan Mulvaney Bud Light thing was going on, I, in my research, pulled up Mulvaney's posts and went to the earliest posts. And what do you find? Dylan Mulvaney was doing something called Gay Safari. Yeah. And he was a theater kid, gay singer, who was trying to make a show. He was trying to be famous.

There's the viral video where Dylan Mulvaney goes on The Price is Right and wigs out. That's the best way to describe it. Yeah. Runs around in circles, does a fake rowboat,

rolls around on the ground, and Hugh Carey's like, okay, what are you doing? Very slapstick. Very much, please look at me. Dylan Mulvaney created a series of videos that weren't really getting any traction. Eventually, Mulvaney made a video, something about coming out as non-binary.

The views were higher. Then some gay safari videos and some other videos that didn't really get a lot of views. And then, I'm trans, more views. What had happened was the algorithm told Dylan Mulvaney, we will promote this and not this, that but not this. And so Dylan Mulvaney was making content. Some worked, some didn't. And as soon as Mulvaney did the trans thing and got a bunch of views, Mulvaney then started doubling down, increasingly undergoing body modification to adhere to what the algorithm had demanded of him,

now making Dylan Mulvaney what Mulvaney is today. If you look at some of the earliest Dylan Mulvaney Days of Girlhood videos, it is obvious satire. Dylan Mulvaney undergoing no treatments or surgeries, insulting women in a comedic routine, saying, now that I'm a woman, I'm going to go buy a dress that costs too much money and complain about, you know, just very offensive stereotypes about women. But how do you chase the algorithm if every day you have to do one degree more

instead of going back to doing gay safari, which wasn't popular? Del Mulvaney did what the algorithm told him to do, which is get surgery. I agree. The algorithms are all bad and they harm children, but I want to connect it to how we were talking about rights and crime earlier. I think we need like a renaissance and good parenting again, because I see so many parents outsourcing their parenting to the internet and these kids are stuck in doom scroll life and they need to get back to actually raising children. I mean, I agree with the principle. I just want to speak to that for a minute because uh and i and i hear that response

anytime i talk about i mean one of my big big issues is uh at least age verification on on all these porn sites should i mean that there's there's no argument against it not not any rational one um and i'm very much in favor of banning a lot of these sites outright which i know puts me you know the libertarians won't go along with that but the so what i often i often hear that i often hear well this is about the parents parents parents should do their jobs and i agree but also um it i think sometimes we understate just how rigged everything is against parents. It is so difficult. Like, how do you, your kids are going out into a world where this stuff is everywhere. It is just everywhere.

And so parents need a little help. We can't do it all on our own. Now, I've gone as extreme as you can on this issue with my own kids in that my kids don't have phones. We just don't do phones. We don't do internet in the house. It's not going to last forever. Eventually, they're going to have a phone.

And for a lot of other kids, they do have phones. I'm opposed to giving your kids a phone, but it's not this extreme move. And then also, even if you don't give your kid a phone, if they go to school somewhere, my kids are homeschooled, but if they go to school somewhere, they're around kids that have it. Friends have phones. Right.

They go to a friend's house. And so they still have access to all those screens. And so it's just the parent, you can't, unless you're going to lock your kid in a room until they're 18 years old and give them no access to any kind of media. Unless you're going to do that. Is that bad? They're going to. Yeah. A little bit. bad? They're going to have access to it.

But then there's this attitude of like, we're not going to do anything to help parents on this at all. And I just don't get that. Because there are basic things that are low cost, require almost no sacrifice. Age verification on these sites. What's the downside the only downside is for the porn sites i have i have an idea i was talking with allison about this because we're you know we're having our kids soon and i said why don't we build an underground bunker where everything looks like the 90s and we will raise our child for 18 years as if it was the 90s of the 90s

technology and you can't go outside because the air is poisonous and then one day when she's old enough exposure to what the world is really like that's like that's the i mean the other the other concern aside from parenting though is millions of people had shops on here and they made a living on here and they weren't all just like insufferable dylan mulvaney clickbaiters they sold t-shirts they sold mugs like a tiktok shop and a lot of people got really hurt and that's the manipulation they dangle a crying woman in front of you and say but look at the poor asylum seeker as the child traffickers are running across the border so tiktok says we have seven million entrepreneurs selling mugs and shirts why won't you let us corrupt the mind of your children? And I say, I'm not going to be swayed by the sympathies of the average of these people.

I get it. I feel bad for them. But the first thing we see when Trump signs his executive order was these journalists put out videos of crying migrant women. Well, sure, because they're trying to manipulate you into accepting that we are being exploited and abused in extreme ways. So TikTok has a lot of good people on it, and that's fine. But if all we are asking is the company divest from a codified foreign adversary, that's not unreasonable. You want to sell your mugs? You go ahead and do it.

But this company has access to a foreign security threat that's going to manipulate the algorithm, and it's going to our data so we just ask them sell it off make your money let the company operate and they said no and tiktok of their own volition shut down the law did not require them to do so they faked that and then they came back and said thank you donald trump for bringing us back never did tiktok is still banned in the app store on apple and google because that's what the law actually did are they going to divest no you know what they said they won't do it do we think donald trump can convince them no and the the question i have for you guys then is if it's about making money and running a business and uh by dance only owns a portion of tick or china only as a portion these investors only own a portion, why not just sell?

You've got the brunt of the US government saying, sell or lose everything. They chose to go to zero instead of $20 billion. I'm curious. They're looking to use, they want to use their influence over the American people to try and get the American people to convince politicians to change. But also, if I truly believe that if tiktok isn't like if the chinese communist

party is removed from tiktok totally then it's not it's of no value to the chinese communist party so they don't want to to divest because it's it's a it's an apparatus of of money money is not a consideration for the chinese party that you have to ask yourself especially in international exchange what is money money is largely meaningless on the oil market so when we when we say china divest uh tiktok and china should be there should be a divorce divestiture they're thinking themselves 10 billion dollars doesn't move the needle for us oh and if they have the ability to convince 170 million americans that osama bin lad was right, which was happening on TikTok, is worth more than a trillion dollars to these people. Dude, it's absolutely about espionage and influencing American opinion.

I think if they did sell to an American company, they would have the algorithm. They'd be like, you've been doing what for the last five years with our people? Do we have a shareholder statement? I haven't read anything. It's not publicly traded. Oh, I understand now. I understand. So there is, I believe, as of recent.

I assume there's private shareholders. Yes, there is. I believe there's a conservative billionaire who owns a small piece. And the reporting is several prominent individuals in Trump's sphere were paid to lobby on behalf of tiktok and they did and so while i deeply respect charlie kirk for all the work he did in helping trump get elected i will absolutely criticize his 180 degree spin from demanding the ban of tiktok over and over again to the without any real reason i don't understand why he flipped and said trump saved tiktok we did this hooray i don't understand where he flipped and said trump saved tiktok we did this hooray

i don't understand where he's coming from with that matt you've said earlier what's the reason that he i've not seen one maybe that's just me but he uh has he had he had been leading the charge in the in 2020 trump called for the banning of tiktok because it was censoring conservative opinion and propping up the likes of you know dylan mulvaney is one example charlie kirk was very much for years saying we must ban it's a ccp threat i've not heard an explanation where he said it's no longer a threat from the ccp well i i mean in and i'm not i'm not familiar with his view then versus now but i will say in fairness uh to charlie that you know people change people change their their views on this you know people people people change their opinions yeah and that's that's one of the that's one of the like i said

one of the problems being in our position is that we have to have an opinion on everything right away the other thing is that whatever your opinion is it has to stay that forever you're not allowed to change your opinion um well but some some some i i would agree with you to a certain extent some things are fact questions that i don't understand why your opinion would change matt if you ever came to me and told me you decided to agree on child sex changes, I'd think someone hit you on the head or something like that. That's not possible.

This is a little more complex than that, though. I mean, like... Not if you spent years saying this is a CCP threat to the United States, and now you're saying, hooray, we have TikTok back. I assume that he is assuming that President Trump is going to get them to divest

or make some sort of change. Perhaps. I'm not saying he doesn't have a reason sure but uh i would say it is rather strange how in lockstep so many people just decided to march with all one by one prominent conservatives changed their opinions without real explanation i mean you know one criticism i have over the conservative community is they usually are pretty lockstep i i i would say tendency not absolute the i would say it's often the opposite yeah you think so yeah and and the woke are the ones who are marching in locks oh they're they're like hive mind i mean i would say that's that's but from my perspective you know on the right it's it's a constant it's been a little different for like the last couple of weeks because of the feeling of victory and everything. We're feeling good. But generally, the problem is almost the opposite.

We're not one locks up by anything. It's just this constant infighting and backbiting and that is feuding and all of this. Maybe that's I guess that's encouraging for me to hear because I would you know, there's only one true libertarian and it's every you know libertarian for himself um and it always seems like the conservative community has it together a little bit more with it with the exception of the explosion of uh uh you know the israel controversy recently the right is currently right now or however you describe what the right is i don't know uh debating tiktok not marching in lockstep there interesting there were a few prominent individuals who came out in favor of TikTok, like a 180, and then lesser, I don't mean lesser morally, but like smaller personalities with lesser followings, all of a sudden inverted their positions as well,

and started arguing, look, with all due respect, I'm going to criticize people where they deserve it. Riley Gaines posted an image of Chinese farmland in the United States and said, how is TikTok a bigger threat than this? My first response is a single federal agent with a clipboard can seize all of that farmland with no question. But you can't seize back the mind of 170 million people. Outside of that, the image that was shared by Riley showed that the entire island of Hawaii had been purchased by China, which is clearly not correct. So there are people sharing these fake memes that are engaging in sophistry to defend a platform that has a foreign adversary in control of it. And there doesn't seem to be a legitimate reason.

Two things can be bad. I'm sure you've thought about this, but have you, if you had, you know charlie and riley whoever else on the show do you guys debated this i would want as someone who's a squishy uh fence rider on this thing i'd be very interested to watch that debate with you guys yeah i am also a squishy uh fence rider on this i thought matt walsh and i would be like uh like uh fire and gasoline but we're we're not we're both like i don't know one of the biggest fears uh are you guys familiar with elsagate yeah oh you're familiar with elsagate yeah matt do you know the the this is this is seven years ago so you don't this is when i have a toddler so i just recently but you know it started

with these long form uh unspoken videos emerging of elsa people dressed like elsa spider-man and the j Joker chasing each other around. What was happening was people were putting iPads in front of their babies and pressing play. The autoplayer would then choose the top keywords for children, Spider-Man, Elsa, Joker, the Hulk, but the Hulk wasn't really in a lot of those videos, and then it would autoplay it for the baby who could not choose what it was watching. This devolved into absolute psychotic content. Images of children eating feces. Men injecting saline for no reason into little girls.

Thumbnail images of children drinking out of urinals. And it was because the algorithm was promoting these things. Babies weren't choosing it. And individuals were using computer programs to just generate what they would look at the Twitter, the YouTube API, sorry, not Twitter, and look at what was hitting views for children, and then they would inject those things into a program which would auto-generate these videos, which became increasingly disturbing. Videos of a teddy bear brutally beating a child while the child is forced to eat out of a toilet

were extra we're getting tens of thousands millions of views and then you got the finger family song where people in india started making these absolutely insane videos the most famous of which was hitler with a woman's body in a bikini doing Tai Chi with the Incredible Hulk while an Indian family sang the song Finger Family. This was the algorithmic chaos. It wasn't intentionally done. So when I see problems like this, and this is causing psychological disorders in children, because this is not reality, where we end up in 10 years, things are starting to get a bit crazier as these kids are growing up. The algorithmic problems we saw with the pushing of wokeness and other leftist ideas

was corrupting a generation. We were largely defeating that. And I felt very optimistic, especially now with Mark Zuckerberg apologizing with Elon Musk buying X. Now we have TikTok, which is unaccountable and doing the exact same thing and we have conservatives cheering for tiktok to remain able to continue doing what we have been fighting for nearly a decade this ties in this is what i've been thinking and wanting to say for about 20 minutes now matt you brought up interesting people getting embedded in the machine children especially like this is their life i am in the machine i'm concerned that humans are

evolving and that we will if this continues evolve into two different species literally a technocratic like a like a cyborg human that is fully reliant on this that has the ai doing its thinking for it becomes a hive mind and literally that there will be a war between these species like neanderthal and hominid a homo sapien. You can't have two alpha species on the planet. All right. Well, first I'll pause you because you have made tremendous leaps. It's a more general look at the danger of children being embedded in the tech. Getting to two species and then getting to the war between them is very far in the future.

Yeah, I'm nipping it in the boat. We do have to go to Super Chats, though. We're way behind. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Become a member over at TimCastcast.com we have an uncensored conversation with angela earlier we recorded before the show because we have we have time constraints here where we are um but it was an interesting conversation about russell brooke you're

meeting with uh donald trump so if you want to watch that it's on timcast.com should be up right now and it's very fascinating and you'll get access to our discord community over 20 000 people probably more at this point all hanging out pre-shows, after shows. There's a litany of community and content that's being produced there. And they want to be friends with you. But let's read your super chats. Alpha Turkey says, Tim, do you still stand that Trump will be a marginally good president or be far better than the first term?

Also welcome, Matt. I stand corrected. I said Trump would be a marginally good president like he was in his first term. He'll get another chance to do so. But in these past few days, the dude walked right up and hit a grand slam, practically on the ground, as it were, but Trump is going to be an absolutely great president who's already done tremendous things. I'm curious if you guys agree. I'm skeptical of Project Stargate and building a digital god with the $500 billion shrine to AI that all those companies are putting together that he announced yesterday. That's the one thing. I love everything else, but that is concerning to me. Yeah, I'm skeptical of Stargate and working with OpenAI after the whistleblower stuff has come out.

I think there's some concerning things there. Totally. Don't even talk about that anymore. I feel like, aside from that, we have a huge upward trajectory, and the vibe shift in the United States is amazing. And I feel really good since the inauguration i kind of echo the feeling about opening i am concerned about sam altman um i don't think that he's a stand-up guy but that being said um people that are concerned about ai overall i mean look if the united states doesn't do it china or another country is going to i get it just because it's inevitable doesn't mean it's good well no and it's going to replace humans it's i don't i i disagree with that um but it'll

happen soon i i don't i don't believe that it's going to replace humans but i do think that like if you allow like if we don't have the the if we're not cutting edge on ai then you're going to fall behind and then you know a country like China that is on the rise can use the incredible benefits that AI will bring to a marketplace and can overtake a country like the United States. And they're selling Stargate as these beautiful benefits, the same way Elon sells Neuralink, which the short-term benefits are beautiful. They cure these different diseases. Open AI, they're saying they're going to cure cancer. But they're going to build a giant surveillance state apparatus that'll be way worse than anything we could possibly imagine yeah i think that's predictive program like programmatic policing all these things are going to be very

ugly very soon through this is stargate program right now its point is it will map your i think your personal genome and then craft medicine that's directly tailored to your body through the mrna medicine and i think think mRNA has got really vilified over the last five years because of a lot of the mandates of the vaccines and things that the mRNA was new. But that doesn't mean it's bad. It could be extremely valuable to be,

but you are right about it tailoring and mapping your genetics and having access to it, which could also create bioweapons, particularly against your genetics. We'll just try to move on get some more so protect we got this from sm69 he says in december the nsa renamed their dei department to eeod they just changed the name again to eeoa their web page is still

up and lists all of biden's woke eos and nsa's woke internal policies as operating guidance the page is hosted on an internal network inaccessible to the public that's creepy that's what i was referring to earlier though that uh they're trying to rename these departments to avoid getting terminated oh time to fire him yeah cash patel said there's a way to fire him you just have to work harder and you just have to do it look up ask them what do you do if they can't answer you in eight seconds fired these guys should have been confirmed already for sure yeah who cash all of them oh yes and everybody needs to go and call and lobby your senators senators in particular especially if you're in maine or alaska tell your senator that you want

them to vote for cash they're dragging their feet all right jason says i work in dod public affairs we scrubbed our websites of all the dei nonsense today it felt good like smashing the printer in office space i hear that suave bro says gun owners of america posted on x that the atf dei officer is now the executive officer that's how they will keep it uh keep it around to get around it we did bring that up well i mean they they're going to try to do that kind of stuff but that's okay thankfully because of platforms like x and people that are looking to facilitate the change, these things are going to be brought to the attention of the people in charge. And hopefully, they'll be able to make adjustments and actually push to get these people fired for trying to hide. We'll find them and we'll say, good job on trying to hide that.

Best of luck in the private sector and see you later. know thanks for making my day more entertaining and you're out tyler bratton says the chicken amendment is already covered under one of the greatest amendments the ninth amendment which states the enumeration in the constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage other retain others retained by the people wrong i say so uh the purpose there is that just because we enshrine some rights doesn't mean other rights are not, you know, non-existent or whatever.

The problem is we do need to write down the things that we want to be upheld because there are many states that ban chicken ownership. And it was funny because I was talking with Thomas Massey. I don't know if he mentioned this on the show. I think it was before the show, perhaps.

We were talking about an amendment for the right to grow your own food and be secure in your ability to eat and grow healthy food and things like this. Because he has an Amish raw milk supplier, I guess he was talking about. And my joke was that the chicken amendment, we wrote it up to be silly and to be in the style of how they would have written it a long time ago in reflecting the second amendment which is the joke but that it would be interpreted to mean more than chickens that is individuals should have the right to grow their own food and consume as they see fit

without government interference that would need to be codified because that is infringed upon every single day in this country absolutely yeah I'm a big raw milk fan I don't have chickens yet, I'm a big raw milk fan. I don't have chickens yet, but we get- I'm quite into raw milk these days. I'm still against it.

We, yeah. Yeah, actually, I'm with Matt on this one. My toddler- I like my milk without bacteria. No. It's good bacteria, man. We like it. My toddler and I both chug raw milk.

Very nourishing. All three of my kids and us, we've been doing it for 10 years. If I'm getting milk, I always say, hold the E. coli. Dude, you've got to embrace the E. coli. There's different types of E. coli. But Matt, do you believe that it should be illegal to buy raw milk? Illegal, and anyone who has it should be shot on the spot. Oh, no!

No, I don't think it should be illegal. If you want to consume cow feces, I think you should have the right to do so. Have you tried it? I did. It's really good. I mean, what about sushi? It is good. I was on Alex Clark's podcast

and she gave me raw milk. And made you watch anime? And dare. We don't do that. We don't do that we don't do that we got we got standard i drank i could feel my throat closing up i was it was a near death experience might have been killing a lot of the bad stuff on you i don't know we we have a lot of farms out by us and they have to sell it as pet milk which literally says not for human consumption and everybody knows exactly what

it is but i'm actually with matt i'm not i'm not a big raw milk person uh i also don't i don't like the store i don't like the generic store-bought plastic stuff i like getting good organic milk but pasteurized i mean the truth is i don't drink milk at all because i'm not eight you know well so but if someone so someone said something to me. But what if you're eating peanut butter? I'm breastfeeding, so I'm always chugging. So I think the more interesting contrarian view on milk is what someone told me that, well, really, humans shouldn't be drinking cow's milk at all. God gave us dominion over this earth.

That includes cow milk. Well, this is not my argument. I'm just testing the water. But no other species do they drink... No other mammal drinks milk past childhood, and no other mammal drinks the milk of another species.

They also don't have philosophy departments. That's not true. Animals will drink other animals' milk. They just don't harvest it and then bring it to their families. Because they're not smart enough. That's what this guy That's not true. Animals will drink other animals' milk. They just don't harvest it and then bring it to their families. Because they're not smart enough. Well, that's what this guy said, I thought. It was an interesting contrarian milk. That's a vegan argument is what that is.

That is a hardcore vegan. All you got to do is scroll Instagram long enough. I'm accidentally a vegan. All you got to do is scroll Instagram long enough, and you will find one of these stories where it's like a mama cat adopted an orphaned mammal of some sort and things like this. Yeah, but the adult animal of that species

doesn't drink milk. Oh, that's true. They evolved to drinking their blood and eating their meat. But to be fair, humans eat a lot of things that animals would never go near. Like cheesecake? Well, I mean, we've invented weird, disgusting chemical additives to

foods put cheesecake in front of your dog and tell me your dog doesn't eat cheese is the idea about um raw milk that it's more prone to getting like in overly bacterified the deal with raw milk is you don't want raw milk from some gross city factory farm. You want it only from a place that's clean, which is how people used to consume milk. Pasteurization happened once factory farming happened. I'm not trashing factory farming. I'm just saying when you cram a bunch

of animals together like that, you have to be extra clean because things get kind of nasty. But I would argue that there's no such thing as a clean farm. I mean, there's animal shit all over the place. Well, there's different definitions of clean. I support stem cell meat growth because you're bypassing all the feces going through that cow. You don't have to eat the garbage crap.

I'll pass on that, but I love that for you. All right, let's grab this one from Hitman Zarelli. He says, says lana del rey is honestly my top five artists dean martin mulchett doma big al downing lana del rey selena listen to brooklyn girl west coast salvatore diet do mountain diet do mountain phil is that is will know what i'm talking oh phil what i'm talking about diet do mountain okay there's no commas so i was trying to figure out what you're saying mountain are you familiar with that no not at all lana del rey's cover of uh country roads is incredible is it really is incredible it's really good uh i think she's good i'm not

i'm not a fan but just because i don't like her music doesn't mean i think it's bad i thought her video games i thought it was long slow and boring but i mean it was kind of good i'm i'm offended by video games because it's a really good melodic song with the worst lyrics imaginable if you know you know the song i don't know the song now okay so it's like this really great melody that's very heartfelt and the lyrics are like it's you it's you it's all for you but she's actually singing about just putting on a skimpy outfit where her while her boyfriend drinks and plays video games and she goes down on him and i'm like you know if she actually wrote like my husband came back from war and i and i was longing for him and i was scared and terrified i've done all

of this for you like i'd be like wow that's so much such an amazing song who is this lana del rey we're talking yeah she married the uh the alligator guy that's right yeah good for her good for her i don't know who that is who's the alligator guy he's an alligator she married just some you know normal dude that alligator a swamp tour guy yeah swamp tour an airboat i gotta be honest, he's a normal dude. I mean, that sounds like the coolest job ever.

True. Like driving around. Well, I mean, normal dude as in not a Hollywood guy. Not a Hollywood weirdo. Is it Florida or Louisiana? It's very Florida man vibes. It is Florida man vibes.

I don't know where he's from. I mean, riding around on, what are those things called? Airboats. Airboats? Yeah. Chasing alligators? That's big fans on the back. Honestly, that that was my second choice after podcaster it's the american

dream all right you could podcast from the boat i actually stay up at night staring at the ceiling thinking about what what could have been all right let's uh donald uh lenay says the left sees criminals as victims of society had they not been treated unfairly by society they wouldn't be committing crimes i know that's how we logically view it but i largely think they are just npcs that simply hate you we we we often try to apply logic to their actions to understand it but sometimes there is no logic to be applied they are simply contrarians who say right wing bad and whatever you are for, they're against. There are like instances where someone's forced into committing a crime to survive. I mean, that does happen, but I don't think that's generally the problem. That's the minority.

The community gets racist and they're like, don't sell them any products. And he's like starting, can't get food anywhere. Do you believe that happens? I'm sure in the world that kind of thing can happen. In world history, you have crimes of survival. In the United States, do you believe that happens? I disagree. I understand the point you're making, but it is still a choice.

You're not being forced into it. But even evil laws. I'll say, so if I actually had, if I was starving and my children were starving and someone had food and i went up and asked them for the food and they wouldn't give me any i would then steal it from i would rob them and take the food uh in order in order to good dad right so that my child will survive like i care more about my kids surviving than i do about the law and that but the but that scenario is not happening in modern america but my point is just that I understand you feel forced to do so because you have a great calling to protect your children, but it's still a choice. Yeah, it is a choice, yeah.

Right, because you could literally say, we're going to go in the woods and rough it and forage and hunt and figure it out. The idea that there was, it's crazy to me that humans throughout all of history figured it out, but now with civilization, with this scenario where it's like, I had no choice but to rob the marketplace. Well, we forgot how to figured it out but now with civilization with this scenario where it's like i had no choice but to rob the marketplace well we forgot how to figure it out that's that's a lost art right there perhaps i mean i think though like when it comes to criminals i think that we do tend to have more compassion for people who are younger we feel that their minds are not fully developed uh they were in bad situations with their parents. We have more compassion for younger people. We don't have a lot of compassion for eight-time felons who are out murdering people to the point that it becomes like a sick meme. So, you know, that's a big, I think, distinction

between people who are diehard progressives and everyone else. All right. Ted Thornton says, Americans until Gen Z and Alpha have had a Judeo-Christian morals as a foundation. America is a Christian nation. The overwhelming even among liberals, secular liberals in the 90s and millennials today, they don't know it, but they host of religulous has christian moral foundations and uh i think i don't i don't know to what extent he's actually researched his values and where they come from but they come from the christian moral tradition the easiest way to understand it is go to any eastern hemisphere country and ask them why they don't have the fifth amendment why they don't have speedy trials why they don't have a right to confront charity 501c3s charity is a is a a catholic virtue it's it's the opposite of greed and it's codified into law that it's not taxable and you know why we have 501c3s because of because they are they are tax code versions

of the church churches are tax exempt we are allowed to see what they do with their funds and they can't engage in politics and when when these liberals say, well, these churches shouldn't be allowed to do this, that, or otherwise, I'm like, okay, if you want to ban that and say they shouldn't, if you want to say churches shouldn't be tax exempt, because that was a big argument liberals were reporting for for a while, I'll say, totally correct. And we'll get rid of 501c3s at the same time. I could see, like, the charitable aspects of churches being tax-free, but other aspects of the churches being taxed. What? Tithing?

I don't know. That's literally how they make money. Well, you should be able to donate through their 501c3 then or something. So it's tithing? I don't know. Tithing is, I think it's different. What's the part that should be taxed? What's the action they take that should be taxed? You know, that's a good question because I don't know all of the ways that churches make money.

Does Joel Osteen get ad revenue when he... Well, not everyone's Joel Osteen. But does he get ad revenue when he does his TV show? Because that should be taxed. Interesting. Sponsorships. I disagree. He's a bad example.

Yeah, churches like Joel Osteen's church, those are like a handful of churches. And there are millions of churches in the country. I grew up with my dad as a pastor. And we had lower middle income. It was a small church. The vast majority of churches are not rolling in cash. Although, we would agree on this, I think. I would just say get rid of all income taxes. Yes.

I heard Trump is tending that. I don't know if that's fake news. Did you see that? I don't know if it's fake news did you see that i don't think that's gonna happen uh but that would be he would automatically go down as the greatest president america yeah that's a terrible idea uh yeah well my friends it's been uh amazing but as i mentioned this is uh we have a hard stop we are going to be heading back to our home studios our last day in dc so thank you all so much for being members smash the like button share the show with everyone you know and i mean that literally it's not just a motto uh word of mouth really does help out and

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