Timcast IRL - Trump Exposes 275K Illegal Aliens Receiving Social Security Payments, Removes Them w/ Terrence K. Williams

Episode Date: August 15, 2025

Phil, Tate, & Raymond are joined by Terrence K. Williams to discuss Trump exposing 275,000 illegal immigrants were receiving social security payments, Gavin Newsom calling for a special election to redistrict in California, DC beginning to clear homeless encampments after Trump's federalization of the city, and liberal media dragging Jillian Michaels after she defends Trump's Smithsonian changes.   Hosts:  Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Tate @RealTateBrown (X) Raymond @raymondgstanley (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Terrence K. Williams @w_terrence (X) | https://cousints.com/

The White House was celebrating the 90th anniversary of the Social Security Act today. They were focusing on the fact that they have passed a bunch of changes in the big, beautiful bill, no tax on Social Security for seniors. They've removed something like 275,000 illegal aliens from the system. And there was 12.4 million names over 120 years old. Some, I think, were even over 150 years old. So we're going to talk about that a little bit. Newsom is still running the President Trump playbook. He's talking about changing the whole makeup of the House of Representatives,

and it's going to change the presidency, and they're going to impeach Trump. And he's just running for president, so he's just trying to get eyes on himself. So we'll talk about Newsom a little bit more. D.C. has moved into clear homeless encampments, and we've got a bunch of information about that. The Smithsonian is revamping all of their, all of this stuff, basically, in the Smithsonian. And it sparked controversy with Jillian Michaels on CNN, allegedly defending white people, something like that. So we'll get into it. And SCOTUS has allowed age verifications on social media pages.

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Tate. Producer Tate here. Tate Brown holding it down. How are we doing today? I'm looking at the fried chicken mix there. I'm on a cut right now. So seeing that is pretty soul-crushing, but now I know the first thing I'm going to have. You know, I have a keto fried chicken coming out. Is that real? There's going to be a low-carb, low-calorie keto-fried chicken mix. Oh, my goodness. Well, I'm going to make some goals. How much cardio are you doing if you're cutting? Too much Too much No Three miles It's not bit That's not a lot

You gotta do five You need to do 10,000 steps a day Yeah Yeah yeah The steps is key Especially at your age Yeah

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That's right All right So we're gonna get into it Donald Trump was in the White House today talking about all of the wonderful things that he has been able to do for the Social Security system because the Social Security Act is 90 years old today. The anniversary was today. So we're going to go ahead and listen to what President Trump had to say about that. Last month, I signed one big, beautiful bill and allowed no tax on Social Security for our great seniors. Okay. So how's that? Not bad, right? No tax on Social Security for our seniors. And to protect our benefits, we've already kicked nearly 275,000 illegal aliens off of the Social Security system. These are people, many of them have already left the country, and yet we were sending them checks all the time, and 275,000, and that number is now even larger than that, Frank. It's unbelievable job. And what

that's doing is making the system strong. It's making it strong. Biden never kicked anybody off. everybody joined, and we're carrying out historic deportations to remove many more illegals committing Social Security fraud. It's the Social Security fraud that was taking place at levels that nobody's ever seen. We cleared 12.4 million names listed in the Social Security database over 120 years of age. Just think of that. So we had 12.4 million names where they were over 120 years old. Is that right?

That's a hell of a statement. I have a feeling, Dan, that's not really going to... That really didn't happen, did it? So you have 12.4 million names listed in the Social Security database that were over 120 years of age, meaning you were breaking records because I've never heard of anybody at 125. There were nearly 135,000 people listed who were over 160 years old. and in some cases getting payments

so somebody's getting those payments and we're after that. So this is one of the benefits of the Big Beautiful Bill apparently. He had the ability to take all these names off the Social Security rules. This is something that I can't imagine how Democrats

will spin this to be a bad thing. But I think that they're likely going to try. But just like the crime in D.C., it's one of those things where Democrats really they can't. So do you guys, do you guys figure that they're going to try and spend this as bad, or do you think that they're going to just say that they're hurting people? Because that's

the argument that I've heard in the past is, oh, they're going to, they're taking Social Security from people that need it. They're going to say that Trump is lying. They're going to say he doesn't have proof. They're going to demand to see this list in the names and how much money they were receiving. Then they're going to make up a lot. Then they're probably going to, I think they're going to manufacture a crisis. They're going to say Trump, accidentally kicked a bunch of Americans off of Social Security and they're going to have that deserved it should have been there. Yeah, they should have been there and he mistaked them for an illegal immigrant and this poor

lady and they're going to have they got to pay people to lie for them. I lost my Social Security after Trump made that statement right before he made that statement and they're going to make up stuff. Is that going to fly with the American people? Because I think that this is one of those topics that Americans kind of know. like if you pay attention to politics, they know that Social Security is insolvent, and they know that generally, it's nonpartisan to agree that Social Security fraud is bad. Yeah, I mean, I remember the State of the Union address, Trump presented these findings for the first time.

If I remember correctly, a few Democrats, you know, there was like in the State of the Union, it's all about who stands up and who doesn't for certain things, depending on what your constituents want. But I remember when he was reading off those numbers, a lot of Democrats were like, yeah, this is actually pretty, this is pretty bad. It's a really bad look. Yeah, I mean, I think those numbers are correct. That Doge did a number on Social Security fraud, and it was really extensive. And, yeah, the American people, there's a real anxiety with younger Americans, especially that we're not even going to see our Social Security. So I think any attempt to shore up and guarantee that or squeeze out any longevity out

of Social Security is going to go over really well. Well, I don't think young Americans, a lot of young Americans, especially this new generation, they're not thinking about Social Security right now, not. really young ones. If you're talking about kids that are like 18 and up, you know, like 18 to 25, I know when I was 25, I wasn't thinking about Social Security. I was having

taxes come out. My check that said, where are this money going? Social Security. I don't know what Social Security. Give me my money. I got bills to pay. But, you know, I do appreciate that we, like, I am glad that they caught this fraud. But I want to see some people arrested

for this. Who are the people that were cashing these checks, okay? And if these were illegal immigrants collecting social security, how do we know that these were not some crooked Americans coming up with fake social security numbers collecting these fake checks? To be devil's advocate real quick. He's saying that the names were on the list. They're not saying that they were receiving benefits. It could have just been a bug. It could have just.

Oh, so they were not receiving benefits. They're named. According to, like, Al Jazeera, and these terrible. news sources, I apologize, watching posts are saying and folks are saying they were not actually receiving them, but the names are on the list, which they could have received them. Nobody knows. I know. Even Donald Trump

in this particular clip, he said that there were some of them were receiving checks. So there's 12.4 million names over 120 years old. Likely what that is, is it's just they haven't cleaned them up. So it's inefficiency and it's not actually 12.4 million people

that are committing fraud. How do we know that is something that they actually haven't cleaned? up because it's 120 years old. How do we know that there are not people in government making up that, like, they found, like, I'm pretty sure someone that's working in government already knew

this was going on. He said, wow, all these people collecting checks and they don't even know about it. And these checks is, oh, well, maybe I'll start collecting this check of this person who died a hundred years ago somehow funneled the money here or make up some stuff. I don't know. But I doubt that nobody knew

about this. Somebody knew about this. I mean, yeah, that's why they kept their mouth shut because they were collecting that money too. That's the whole. I don't, yeah, I don't think that we have, we don't have any evidence of that being the case. Now, I'm not saying that it's not possible. And, you know, in this clip, like I said,

Donald Trump, even said, even, we don't have the evidence. Donald Trump even, even, even Donald Trump said that there were people that might be collecting the checks. And I think this is actually just cleaning up the rules because there's a significant difference between 275,000 illegals and 12.4.4. more million names over 120 years old. You know what I mean?

Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, we saw it. We do see identity theft all the time with social security numbers in which they have the Social Security Death Index. A name will go on there that they're dead. The Social Security number is cleared. But it takes a little while for that record to be formally updated. And then someone that's here that's illegally will take that number, use it for

E-Verify, use it for something else, presumably in this case, social security benefits. It happens a lot. So with the amount of illegal immigrants that are in this country, and there's a lot of reputable organizations that estimate the numbers far higher than 12 million, I mean, a couple million illegals on Social Security is probably an undercount, if anything. I mean, there's probably a lot of them. Because think about the amount of people working using E-Verify. You can see it first hand. People in the comments will have anecdotes of people bypassing employment verification.

I worked for the state of Pennsylvania. I did welfare for a year and a half during COVID. And we wouldn't get people's deaths. Like, sometimes it'd be like a year out. So we wouldn't know that they'd still be sending them their, you know, their food stamps or whatever, the MA medical for a year out until we put them in the system, be like, hey, guys, this person's deceased. Yeah, and all it takes is someone with power of attorney to cash a check for someone that's passed away.

You know, if you, if your family member passes away and they'd given you power of attorney or... Even if you have the card. Yeah, if you have the card, you could do whatever you want. You just grab it and use it yourself. It's possible. There's definitely fraud. I mean, and I don't think that anyone's arguing

that there isn't fraud in the system. I think that that's specifically what this is supposed to be countering, you know? Yes. That's the reason for this, that stuff in the big, beautiful bill was to get rid of this stuff. I think that it's, it's one of those things that your average American is going to say, yeah, this is a good thing. I don't, I can't imagine anyone on, you know, any, any, any, whatever your political opinion is, no one's going to say, oh, this is, this is perfectly fine. I mean, deportation of all legal's full stop is a winning issue. Yes. Anyway, just polling-wise. So it's like 55% of American support all legales being deported. So it's like,

I mean, this is a layup. The support for not paying illegal's social security. Yeah, that's going to be very high. We're talking high 70. Yeah, I mean, Democrats have been on the wrong side of 80, 20 issues for at least the past year and a half regularly, consistently. And a lot of it's driven by the fact that it's just Donald Trump that's bringing these issues up or that it's Republicans that are talking about him and they the Democrats seem to have this need to just oppose Donald Trump, regardless of whether or not it's something that the American people want, regardless or whether or not it's something that's good for them. They think that if I am opposing Donald Trump, this will play in my election. And it doesn't matter if it helps the American people.

They've stopped representing Americans and they only represent people that want to oppose Donald Trump, even if it's detrimental to the American people. What do you guys think, uh, about um it's going to be insolvent in 2034 2035 and you're saying young people they don't care you know i mean i didn't care also as a young kid because you have to pay your bills they everyone wants to buy house nowadays you want to start family they can't do they can't afford anything and then now they're knowing that when they get older they're not going to have any retirement plan i think young people should care but now i'm starting to hear a lot of young people say they don't even want to own a home because it costs too much they don't want to deal with the

maintenance they just want an apartment they don't want to own any land i don't want to own any land I mean, and then look at, I mean, people get, well, look what the government is doing. I mean, they've been, they have death tax. They have an inheritance tax. Some people get an inheritance and they let it all go because it costs too much to keep it because they're going to get tax for a deaf tax. And, I mean, it's just so a lot of young people, they, they don't care. They don't, they don't care, but they should care.

They should care, though. What the federal government is going to do is they're just going to monetize that debt. Exactly. They're going to take, they're going to just print money. to pay the debt and that's going if you think the inflation in the past couple years has been bad wait until they're trying to inflate away 50 trillion or 75 trillion because right now it's 37 trillion yes yeah like 233 it'll easily be 60 trillion 70 trillion 75 trillion yeah and when they're trying to print enough money to cover that kind of debt your dollars are going to be literal

pennies yeah well you're already seeing in europe what happens when you have massive debt and a declining population is all they're the only solution they've come up with is just import as many people from the third world as possible and so if you are concerned about immigration the level of immigration to the United States you do have to balance the books at some point because there's no way around it it's like they need a tax base if they want to support these match of social programs and social security there i mean that be political suicide to advocate for abolishing or even like doing anything really touching it in any way it's going to be political suicide um so it's there's a lot of factors at play and it's like yeah i mean the only solution these western governments

have come up with so far is just flooding the country with workers the reason that there has been no fix yet is not because they haven't been able to forecast what's going to happen it's because there is no political will and that's because old people vote and old people don't want their social security checks to change yeah it is an unpopular thing with the with the largest portion of the voting population it's boomers right there's boomers and and gen x i don't I don't think Gen X has started collecting Social Security yet. But even still, boomers are the ones that are on Social Security. Boomers are the ones that need Social Security.

And even though they've paid in X amount of dollars, they're taking four or five times out what they actually paid in. But they'll swear up and down that this is money that I paid in and I deserve this, et cetera. So they, and again, they're the ones that vote. And there's more of them. We talk about this all the time. There are fewer millennials than there are Gen X.

There are fewer Gen X than there are boomers. there are fewer Gen Z than there are millennials so there's no tax base and they don't have the voting power they don't have the political power at all even if they all joined together and said we're going to vote to fix this stuff the boomers

there's still enough boomers to say no you're not right we're going to vote for politicians that won't touch like Gen Z and Gen Alpha combined the amount of people yeah yeah yeah and Gen Alpha won't be you know there won't be enough

Gen Alpha voting for another 15 years. You got the boomers concern with Social Security. The Gen X, you know, is it, is they Gen Z or Gen X? Which one is it?

Gen X is right out. It's Gen X, then boomers. I can't keep about it's Gen Z. Millennials, Gen X, then boomers. Oh, okay. Well, the really young people... That's Gen Z.

That's Gen Z. Gen Z, okay. You know, yeah, like, their concern is, you know, a lot of them are in the Democrats hat they do a good job at manipulating Gen Z okay

they have gotten a lot of them to hate Donald Trump for absolutely no reason they can't even explain to you and most of them their main concern some of them is saving TikTok saving TikTok the boomers are trying to save Social Security and y'all trying to save

TikTok these are I mean these are two different fights here you know but the really important thing is, you know, is the future. And TikTok is not the future. That should not be the main concern, the social media, and hating Donald Trump. Like, that is not an issue. Like, you need to be focused on your future, you know, about your social security

and how you're going to be able to feed your children and even have a family and take care of a family. You know, that is what is important. And we've got to get the young people to understand that. Well, the thing with Gen Z is you have this generalized nihilism among the entire generation. which is why you see candidates like Zoron get massive support. And it's not even because Gen Z has a particular draw to like Marxism or that sort of thing. It's just Gen Zers are so nihilistic and so dissuaded with the system that they've gone radical either way. And there's really like being a, if you're Gen Z and you're a centrist that's like cringe.

When Gen Z thinks of someone like Mamdani, they're not thinking of or when they talk about socialism or communism, right? They're not thinking of Lenin, Mao and Stalin. They're thinking free health care and everyone should get health care. I'm thinking about Canada. Well, and can you? Yeah. They kind of, it's kind of true. And as much as it sounds nice, it's not even working in Canada because Canada has, you know, long, long waits for care.

And they have made medical assistance in dying and such. And they're paying huge taxes. Yeah, they're paying over 50% in taxes. Crazy. Crazy. They're paying 53% of their income. Yeah. But I mean, and there are.

are a lot of Gen Z that are like, well, I would pay that if I had health care, if I didn't have to worry about it. But the thing is, most people in Gen Z don't really need health care, right? They're mostly, most of the time they're young. Now, of course, there are people that have chronic illnesses. Of course, there are people that do. But people that need health insurance are people that are older because they have, they're the ones that are going to go to the doctor more often.

And that's one of the things that if you're going to have a health care system, you should be able to say, look, I want an inexplicate. plan to cover if I break my arm or my appendix needs to come out, you know, something that's not likely going to happen and it doesn't cost them a ton of money. So that way they don't get, you know, huge bills should there be a big problem. But then that'll help pay for the people that do need care that have chronic conditions that are, you know, whether they're young people with chronic conditions or they're older people who end up needing, you know, most of your, most of your health care costs in your life comes in the last five, ten years. You know, that's, that's usually what happens. But, but. that's not what they're hearing or what they're thinking about when they hear Zoran Mamdani talk or any any other one like, you know, AOC or Bernie Sanders. They think

oh, the government should just take care of everybody. Yeah, exactly. They don't take care of themselves because there's so many still so much studies out there. There's like 50% of America is overweight. 50% of America is over obese. That is absolutely absurd. And those people... They need to talk about themselves first.

Yeah, they have no right to demand that The state take care of their health care, especially when we're $37 trillion in debt. So we should pay for everyone's health care when these people don't take care of themselves. But you can almost flip the issue where if you're a young person and you're looking at numbers like that, you're looking at a country where 75% of the people are sick, effectively. That's what being overweight obese is. Looking at a country that's racked up $37 trillion in debt. Looking at a country with sky high suicide rates.

And they're looking at and they're saying, why would I ever cast a vote that reinforces this system in any way, any meaningful way? No, I want a Trump. I want a Mimdani. I want to throw a brick through the window. And they can do that through, I mean, right now they're using democratic systems to use that. But there's no guarantee as things, you know, decline more and more that that will still be, there will still be a civil, you know, a civil way out of this, a civil way to express the anger that people are feeling. So you're saying the future, the future is going to be healthy right-wingers. versus

yes daddy yeah the Democrat special it's free free free nothing in life

is free okay if you want to eat go work okay if you want a roof over your head

go live with your parents if you're fortunate to have parents in your life and they let you live there

if you don't have parents if you don't have nobody to live with work your ass off and get a

job and so you can afford to have a home you know I want free rent and I have cousins

that say it's crazy I saw one of them posts online. It's crazy that we actually got to pay, that we actually got to pay for water, something that we need to live. It's crazy that we actually got to, we need money to eat.

That's so crazy. I was like, people with that mind state. I don't want to just say that it's young people because it's not just young people that have that mindset. The people that have that mindset have no relation to what it takes to provide them with the food that they're going to eat.

They have no idea how many human hours of work go into making sure that the plumbing works in your building and in your city. I mean, I have a, you know, my place in New Hampshire, I got a well, and I have to pay a guy to come out if the well, if there's a problem with the well. In the city, in municipality, you have to pay a little bit, you know, per month for your water.

but everything costs something like you were saying yes and your septic tank too you just can't poo and it magically disappears you got to clean out your second i mean i could go out in the woods and dig a hole but that's an awful thing in january third at six in the morning you know especially in wintertime yeah it's terrible but um all right we're gonna get off of this one and we're going to jump to this story from uh Gavin Newsom um live updates Gavin Newsom calls for special election in California to redraw congressional maps. This is just Gavin Newsom basically announcing that he's going to run for president and what he's trying to do is actually generate clicks. So what to know today, new congressional maps. California governor Gavin Newsom called on the state lawmakers to allow a November ballot measure to redraw congressional districts. This is likely not going to happen in California, to be honest with you, because it's going to take a ballot initiative. They're going to actually have to vote for it. The move comes as Democratic. have sought ways to combat Republicans' mid-decade redistricting efforts in states like Texas.

Texas House Democrats demands. Meanwhile, the Texas State House Democrats caucus set demands for Democratic lawmakers to return to the state, including ending the first special session of the Texas legislature aimed at passing redistricting efforts to benefit Republicans and for California to introduce redistricting maps to counter Texas. The Democrat lawmakers in Texas still are on the lamb they haven't returned yet and i don't i haven't heard anything as to if um ken paxton is actually pushing to round these people up i do think that the the government the doj the federal doj has offered services or the fbi has offered services i would like to see this but i don't think that there's been anything developed about this so um trump is also saying that he believes that

Trump's planning to run in 2028, and this clip is actually really funny, but this is something that Donald Trump has been playing around with, you know, basically trolling the left because they're so reactionary that anything that Donald Trump says, they turn into, you know, such a massive deal, and they run around like their hairs on fire. And Gavin Newsom is, uh, is not, not immune to that. Well, I think it's pretty sick and pathetic. And it just said everything you need to know, the setting that we're under, that they chose. the time, manner, and place to send their district director outside right when we're about to have this press card. Should everything you know about Donald Trump's America, and that was

top down, you know that for a fact. They'll deny it, I'm sure. Maybe they won't deny it. Should everything you know about the authoritarian tendencies of the President of the United States, I said in a moment ago, wake up America. Wake up. You will not have a country if he rigs this election. You will have a president that will be running for a third term. Mark my word. I wasn't exaggerating when I said that I received in the mail a Trump-2020 hat from one of his biggest supporters. These guys are not screwing around. The rules do not apply to him. The most corrupt president in history. He doesn't believe in free enterprise, crony capitalism. He is wrecking this country, wrecking the economy. It's a lawless president. Wake up America. Wake up to what's going on.

It's hilarious. Yeah, he's running for president. Yeah, he's definitely running for president. When you think free enterprise, you do think California. It's ridiculous. We're like truckers refusing to take contracts because in like five years they have the switch to electric. There's been an exodus of businesses from California because of the policy. There's no red tape.

Yeah, it's like a total. It's like it's in paradise. I did recruiting for a little bit in Sacramento back in 2018. And even back in 2018, people were leaving freaking California to go to Texas and the other states because of their rules. and it's their terrible policies for the free enterprising out of that state and Gavin Newsome and it's

this guy's swirmy I need to take a breath he would love disgusting human being brother he would love for President Trump to run in 2028 because that would help him raise so much money

I mean he's begging for Trump to run again because it would help him raise a lot of money yeah that's yeah I mean, that's what he wants to run on. He would love to run against President Trump. That's his dream.

Oh, he didn't get murdered. That's his dream. You know, he probably wanted to, he probably wanted to run in place of Joe Biden, but he couldn't, you know. He probably wanted to do that. He was probably jealous watching Kamala Harris run. He was like, I wish that was me running for it because I would have won, you know? Yeah, this guy's a joker. You couldn't, like, look at what you've done with California.

He has ran California into the ground. People there can barely afford rent. Okay, it is so expensive to live there. The homeless crisis is out of control. Y'all can fact check me on this, but I've been reading a lot about $100 million in relief funds have been missing. It's something shady going on there. I mean, man, find that money first, and then you think about running. Where's the money?

I don't want to hear nothing else. Where's the money? To your point about the way that California has been run, run. It takes a really significantly badly run state to get people to leave a state like California because it's beautiful, right? The fact that it's, it's so nice all the time. In February, you can literally be standing in like Lakewood and it's like 75 degrees, gorgeous out and you can go, you can see the snow cap mountains just, you know, half an hour, 45 minutes an hour away if there's traffic. Beautiful. You can go snowboarding in the morning. And if you want, you can be on the

beach by the evening. When you have a place that is that gorgeous, though it is really, really, really, really tough to get people to leave. So to think of all of the people that have left California. Because I think it's something like half a million or so people have left in the past since COVID. It was me. It was surge left. And I mean, it's like I've been there a lot and it's beautiful. But I mean, I couldn't live there with the policies that they have. This is the first time they had a drop in migration, state migration. Yeah. It was last year.

It was the first time they had more people leaving than they had moving in there. I mean, I had a place in Camryo back in the mid-2000s, and so I know the whole Ventura County, West Lake area. Super nice, super nice. I can't imagine. Were you up 29 palms? I've been there before, but I've never lived there. Never worked there. Yeah.

Did training there. But anyways, it was, I can't imagine. living there today and how rules and regulations they have. And like they had a guy get shot on Thousand Oaks Boulevard which is the super nicest, one of the best communities was one of the safest next to Simi Valley in California just a couple

years ago because he was protesting Israel and the whole thing and someone got murdered. Right on the street. It's just I can't imagine how that would be back into 2000s. It's just insane how it's got the S. Have you spent any time in California? No. I've been out there once but I keep it I mean look you're right. You're right.

It is, like, geographically, the perfect, perfect place. I mean, pristine, it's like you mix the Mediterranean with, like, the Alps and you just smash it right by a coast. Tremendous. I mean, if you had the same policies and, you know, like, I used to live in Indiana, if you pass the same policies in Indiana, you'd have, like, 10 people left. People would get out of there so quick. I mean, same thing with, like, the only reason that, that, I mean, I can't imagine that you could have the same policies in New England. That was what I was going to say, but then I think about Massachusetts, and I think about New York. and New Jersey.

But even then, like, California is at a different level. I mean, they dropped, like, almost a trillion bucks on a high-speed rail that goes from, like, what Fresno and a Mercedes-D. Is that even done? I mean, that would be all-mail, right? It will never be done. It failed, okay.

Yeah. It was a complete failure. There is no high-speed rail that's going to be in California. Did they do anything positive there? Like, do they get, accomplish any of their missions or goals? They built nothing. Okay, there's a lot of talk and a lot of hoop-u-la. They built nothing.

Because of red tape and... Free Enterprise. Yeah, exactly. The state of free enterprise. Imagine Gavin Newsom, imagine a Gavin Newsom America. He would be worse than Barack Obama. He would be worse than Joe Biden. I couldn't even imagine.

I wouldn't leave America because this is my country. I was born here, raised here. I ain't going no damn where. But it would be sickening to live under a Gavin Newsom America. like rule. I mean, this guy would be, he would be, how people are viewing, how some of these Democrats are viewing Donald Trump

to be this, this dictator and this control freak and this crazy man, that is going to be Gavin Newsom. Everything he's accusing Trump up, that is going to be him. Yeah. He is projecting. Yeah. And isn't he a lizard?

I think Shane called him a lizard before. Yeah, he's just really, because he's kind of old school in a weird way. Like he is this kind of old school. slimy kind of Tammany Hall politician, he'll just adopt whatever, because that's going to be his problem in 2028 is he has these marketing agencies that are

behind him in his ear right now saying, hey, you need to larp like you're this masculine tough guy. And then he's going to get the 2028 and get that primary and realize the Democrat voters want, like someone that's like trans, Puerto Rican, whatever. And he's going to be cooked. Do you think that he could win the nomination? I think that he, I don't

think that he could win because he's a cis white male. Well, and right now, whatever marketing agency is in his ear, he's trying to win over like moderate Republicans, but you still have a primary to get through. If you're running in a general, that might actually work. He don't even sound trusting. Like, you look at him, he looks like a slime

ball. He's like, like, he's just like a car salesman, you know? Yeah. Yeah. He was on Sean Ryan show, and he gifted him like a handgun. And then, he's like, yeah, this is so sick. I love guns. He looks like a shady lawyer. It's like he handed him like a hedgehog or something.

He was like, this is great. Gavin Newsom would, if Gavin Newsom became president, he is the one who will want a third term. He would say, I need to stay in so we will never have another Donald Trump in this country again. That is exactly what he would say. You know? I don't, it is my sense, like you said, Tate, it is my sense that he couldn't win a primary. I don't know. Like, how do you, how do the, how does the Democrats look at someone like Gavin Newsom and actually say,

we're going to put our, the base is going to get behind you. I can imagine the money getting behind him. Oh, yeah, he has money behind him. There's a big, there's a big, there's a big civil war going on in the Democrat Party between the actually the woke, the very progressives, and the people like Newsom. And to Tate's point, he is going on Sean Ryan, trying to grab the Republicans that might not love Donald Trump. But I don't see how he wins a primary, especially if it's someone like AOC.

And again, I know there are people that disagree with me. Last time I was here, we had this conversation. Oh, yeah. But I, like, whether or not you like AOC's policies, which obviously I don't, like, I'm a, you know, I'm very much a free market guy and I want to deport a bunch of people. And I'm far more conservative than, or far more right wing, I guess, than most of the people on the right, to be honest with you. But, like, I don't see how someone like Gavin Newsom can get on. stage with AOC and how the base would look at Gavin Newsom and say, I would rather vote for Gavin Newsom than for AOC.

I think he would, I think it's a lot of BS, but their whole, their bi-Poc, they want the minority. I feel like he would, he would definitely win the primary because he's slimy enough. He says the right things for them. Or maybe they run together. Yeah, but like, he's VP. Newsom Cortez. I think it's all fake on their side. They're like, oh, we want this.

We're so mad. We want the trans-queer person. It's all fake because they got Joe Biden is white. They're going to, if Brock is kind of white. I would pay for Newsom to choose. Well, I know he can't do this because Maxine lives in California. But I would love to, I would pay to see Newsome Waters. That would be nice.

To see magazine. Well, I mean, that's. I would love to see that. Oh, I would get a kick out. of that. That would be a beautiful thing. I mean, look, the problem in 2028 for Newsom is going to be, like, think how angry Democrats are right now. I'll imagine after three years of Trump, they're going to want to go back and fight fire with fire. And they're going to pick the most radical option that the Democrat, the DNC will basically allow them to have. Do you think that would be someone like

AOC or do you think there's someone that is actually more radical that could possibly take her place? Yeah, I mean, it could be an AOC. I mean, there's even guys that no one's really talking about that are sniffing around like Ruben Gallego. I mean, there's a chance that someone like him could raise a bunch of money because those guys like, guys like Ruben, like senators have connections. Senators, that's a good point. And so when a race in Arizona, you have to raise a lot of money. So Ruben Gallego, he knows how to raise money, but he's progressive enough to please

the radical left base and he can still talk and cool down kind of the more establishment Democrats. Someone like Newsom's cooked because the base in 2028 is not going to moderate. I mean, think about how we were in 2016. And they're like, here's Scott Walker and Jeb Bush. and we're like, no, we want the guy that's like calling him gay on stage. That's awesome. We want that guy. So Democrats are going to have that moment in 28. It is, it is true. You make a great point. The Congress people do not win. I can't remember the last time someone from Congress, from the House of Representatives won the presidency. If you're a senator, you have far more influence with the moneyed people. They tend to deal with those people more because, look, if you're looking to open some kind of. big business or you want your business to be in a state, you don't go talk to the third

district's congressional representative because they're, it's small potatoes, you know, but if you talk to the, you know, the junior senator even from a state, that's someone that can actually help you when it comes to getting legislation passed. They can act, especially if they're on, depending on which committee they're on, of course. But so that, you know, that is a really great point. If there's someone that's a senator that is progressive, they will likely, have a significantly higher chance than anyone in... Gavin Newsom, people are running from Gavin Newsom. You should not be running for president when people are running from you.

They're running from California. They don't want, they do not want to live in a state that you are running because of you, you are terrible. Well, he's going to get embarrassed, I think, personally. California accounts for a large portion of the homeless population. Imagine if he becomes president. We all going to be homeless. Yeah, real.

Well, it's going to be like one giant skid row. Yeah. One giant skid row. I think he's going to get embarrassed with his ballot measure in November because if you look at the polling right now, the Californian people, for what it's worth, you've got to give them the dub every once in a while. They do really like their independent commission. True.

I think the polling is like 60-40 right now. And now you have guys like Arnold. I mean, Arnold's still well-liked in California. He's getting involved. He's saying, no, do not to repeal this. So, like, come November, I think Gavin News, I don't even know if he's going to get this across the finish line. And the only way he is is he's going to be able to present this in like a really partisan way.

But you're talking about for the redistricting. But like by the time, by November, like, we would be a midterm season. Like people are just, Californians like their, well, for what it's worth, they like their independent commission, even the Democrats. Yeah, I don't, I don't imagine that there's going to be actual redistricting in California because I don't see them, I don't see the ballot and should pass. Is Gavin Newsome allowed on this podcast? Would y'all entertain? We would have him here in a second. In a second. Since he's trying to reach

the conservative base. In a heartbeat. He should come on this show. I would love to see y'all chew tear him in a pieces. I think we just ask him very basic questions and chew himself to pieces. Yeah, he will chew himself to pieces. That's what I'm saying. You know?

Come through. Roll up, Gavin. We got you. Yeah, we got you. End of day. I'm thinking Gavin News must have a chance of winning the primary. But my still, my overall pick I said before here is I know people don't like this pick but I still think Rokana

Rokana. What was that? If you guys think he's too moderate, I know you guys saw him the last time, but I still think Rol Kana has a really good shot. Rokana, you know who Rokana is? I think that he possibly could work. Rokana. He's just, he's in a weird spot because his specific district really likes him. This is rare.

He's a congressperson. Congress people are terrible. I hear you saying. What is what is his last name? Kana. K-A-K-H-A-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N- He won't be president. No, just on the last name, period. Hey, we like the guy named Barack Obama. It's not, he's getting around, he's going on in all these podcasts.

People love him on the left. Oh, yeah. He's kind of moderate. I still can't believe we did that as a country. What black man got the middle name Hussein? You know, who? It's usually post-prison. What a, yeah, Hussein?

Yeah, that's, yeah, that's post-prison. Yeah. That's after 9-11. Hussein? So if Trump puts Obama in jail, how is he, how is he going to muslim up his name? I've never met a black. person with that middle name you will never meet a uh a travon hussein williams a taquo hussein johnson like hussein well i mean what was baroque obama's father's name

barraq obama senior i think he's a junior i think he's a father's also brock obama so then it'd be if he's a junior it'd be barra hussein obama yeah that's probably Alexa is you're trying to with the rocana thing i mean the thing about rocana thing about the thing about rocana is he's in a weird district because it's like a tech bro district so his it's rare to actually see a rep that is really well liked by his constituents and disliked by the rest of the party i can't imagine no president they're rocama i know everyone loves him bro i'm telling you i'm just sticking to it does he have the name you know oh he's a senior you're right yeah yeah but he'll i think rocana could maybe appeal to like the tech bro sector and win him back to the democrats because i do think

the nationalist maga base and the tech base we've already seen tensions flare up a few times already in the Trump presidency. Come three years, we could see a major, you think he's a better option than Vivek? Well, I'm saying if the money came back

to the Democrats, maybe they could squeak Roecon across the finish line. I doubt it. Maybe a VP. Vivek's going to be, he's looking to be the governor of Ohio.

He's running for... Oh, yeah. Is that this year? I think he also nuked his national ambitions with this Christmas crash out over the age one. Oh, yeah.

Oh, you think so? Yeah, I agree. The MAGA base is in charge now. We're in the driver seat. We don't have to tolerate that. I haven't posted this video yet, but I had got a call on my phone and said, hello. I said, who is this?

I'll be calling about what you think about the American politics. I said, who is this? This is John. I said, John, where are you from, I am from Idaho? I said, yeah, I recorded my other phone to record the camera. I'm going to post it. I said, John, you really, I know. Yes, I'm from Idaho.

I just call about politics. What do you think about the, where I'm going into America right now? Maybe H1B in our pollers Ruding the call through Idaho Even Rasmussen went from Idaho Idaho via New Delhi via Yeah I said C scam likely is why you're answering

The scam likely man they They call from It didn't come up at scam likely They'd call from all kind of numbers now It's like mom Yeah Well Yeah I mean it's it's pretty clear that

Newsom is going to be running for president and it's, I don't know if you guys saw the tweet that he put out, but his comms team is actually trying to emulate Donald Trump. Yeah, it's so good. Which is, what do you mean good? Because it just shows that Trump, like, commands. Okay, yeah. He commands the conversation.

But it's so terrible the way he's doing it. Like, did you see the last one he did with Stephen Miller? He was using, have y'all seen the post that Gavin Newsom in the office did with Stephen Miller? He did about Stephen Miller. about Stephen Miller Yeah about Stephen Miller He replied

He did a quote tweet It is insane Just look at it I mean no you're gonna no This is worse than all caps I mean it was Please look at this Well they think they think they're being like coy and clever

Gavin Newsom office quote tweet Mocking but You gotta see this This is about I oh it is It is terrible Miller not Trump this one huh

I can't see that no that's not it no no it's not that one no you should get some glasses yeah he did a quote tweet is it from the governor yes it's from the governor's office he did a quote tweet

go down go down go down go down go down go down go down go down go down go down he did a quote tweet how many times do we post today a lot I'm sure is this from today yeah that's from today five hours ago yeah it was look he even put sad

it was yeah It was yesterday. Sad. Like Trump just, Trump dominant, he's changed the American syntax forever. It was yesterday. Now,

maybe you can type in the, uh, maybe you can, uh, okay. Yeah. No, no,

no. Roll tweet. Carol Lyon. They're trying to give nicknames, too. Carolian LeVette. I mean, has there ever been a single Democrat

that's, keep on going? Had aura like Trump. I mean, this is, this is so. Misoneonian supposed to be a global symbol of American strength. No,

keep on going. Oh, that was close. Taco Trump He's blue is There's all the jerk Oh he posts too much then Well I mean he's trying to be Donald Trump

Oh my god look at They did like Coveffi Like that is This is fan behavior This is weird Yeah It's creepy It broke his brain

It's yeah Guys What if we mock Trump's style By just emulating it In a really flattering way And it's a great idea guys It's so easy to trigger them too Like anything

Well yeah It's just there's easy they're easy. Someone sent him a Trump 2028 hat and he's like oh they're serious. They're really going to do it and you're going to lose and again lose your democracy blah blah blah blah blah blah blah it's the same playbook so

Tennis why don't you see if you can find that and then send it on send an email or send it over to surge or whatever we'll bring it up but we're going to jump to this story right now from the Washington Post DC clears homeless encampment near Kennedy Center. D.C. gave residents

a day's notice to remove their belongings, the clearing comes as the Trump administration has vowed to crack down on homeless encampments in the city. Members of D.C.'s Health and Human Services team began clearing in an camp Thursday morning on a grassy no man's land near the Kennedy Center after giving residents a day's notice to remove their belongings. The clearing comes as the Trump administration has vowed to crack down on homeless encampments in the district and threatened to find or arrest individuals who refuse to be removed or replaced in shelters. It also follows President Donald Trump declaring an emergency in the nation's capital

earlier this weekend, putting the city's police department under federal control. He sent federal law enforcement agents on patrols in D.C. and deployed the National Guard to the city. D.C. police data shows violent crime after a historic spike in 2003, 2020 is down. This is a terrible,

terrible position for the post to be taking. Because even Democrats, the talking heads, Joe Scarborough was talking to Mark Halperin today, and Joe Scarborough was talking about crime in DC and how the Democrats should not be getting behind this. He was mentioning how when Scarborough was in Congress in the 90s, the Republicans would say something and then

Bill Clinton would cut their legs out from under him by saying, I agree with them. And then he'd say, well, this is what I think we should do. And then, of course, Clinton would fight with the Republicans the entire time. So it wouldn't be like Clinton was, was, you know, giving Republicans what they wanted, but he cut the wind out of all of their arguments by saying, oh, I agree with him. They're right about that. I agree with him. Bill Clinton was an absolute master at rhetoric, and he was a master at taking the wind out

of the sales of his political opponents. And it worked great. So the Republicans had to respond. But like we were saying earlier, there are so many people now in the Democrat Party that look at Donald Trump and think their job is to do whatever Donald Trump doesn't want them to do. That's why they've come down on the wrong side of so many 80, 20 issues. The post goes on

let's see, the post goes on by 8 a.m. Thursday at the encampment three people had already packed their belongings and scattered. Six more were busy wiping down their tents and folding tarps to meet at 10 a.m. deadline set by the district. Several residents say they had been in the encampment for months.

It's a longer walk than it looks across the bridge to Virginia, said David Beattie, 67, who has lived in the camp for eight months. If I can get my stuff in storage, I'll do what I usually do. I have a broom and a dustpan and I walk around sweeping up. The district usually posts notices for clearings 14 days in advance and the site has not been on the district list for clearings. Rebecca Dooley, a spokesperson for the deputy mayor for health and human services said,

the encampment's proximity to the highway qualified it for expedited removal, which requires only 24 hours notice. Why does there require, why is there any notice required? If you're, you should not be allowed. I don't be decent human being, I guess. I don't know. I'm just throwing something out there. They're homeless people, and it's not like they're just, like, hanging out.

They've literally built, essentially, homes, right? They've got tents, they've got tarps. If they shouldn't be given... Gas grills, they got everything, brink. Yeah, I mean, it's... They're dangerous, possibly. Sure, but, you know? But, like, seeing a bunch of homeless homeless, but everyone had them.

They shouldn't be a given... There shouldn't be any kind of required time for them to notice given to them. Just go and tell them they have to leave because they're loiter. they're trespassing. Yeah. It is true. And like what you're, we'll say earlier in the article where like for whatever reason you're

speculating why the left is pushing back on this, it's actually kind of, I think it's clear is because the entire purpose of like modern and left wing political thought is to demoralize patriots. And what is more demoralizing than walking around your nation's capital? And there's like, I mean, it looks like Bonnaroo. I mean, it's like a total disaster.

So what's the most empowering thing you could do for a patriot is clean up as capital city, get the riffraff out, get the homeless out, make it really pretty. You know, Trump wants to reinvigorate our federal architecture. He's, you know, swapped out the official architecture style of our federal buildings. And so it's like, yeah, this is actually a huge threat to the left is that Trump wants to empower patriots and actually make you feel good about your country and your capital again. So it's like, yeah, they actually can't concede this point. They can't. They can't. They can't let D.C. become a beautiful place. That'll bring too much pride to the American heart. And that's why they're making about race now.

DC has a lot of Yeah, well now where they've been making about race But that's what they're pushing You know, they're not pushing All Trump is trying to change things To make America so beautiful again And safe again

He's doing this because it's a black mayor He, a black woman intimidates Donald Trump He's doing this because it's a lot of black people That live in D.C. And he's just trying to get in their way. He don't like black people That's why he's doing this.

That is literally their argument right now about him keeping him keeping D.C. safe. Washington D.C. safe. They have made that about him attacking black people. That is not an attack on black people at all. Do you think they're selling though? Huh?

Do you think that people are buying what they're selling? People who, okay, you have people who are going to, who just hate Trump, so they're going to believe anything that they say about Trump. White people. Yeah, white people. And there are some black people, too, who believe everything that the Democrats tell them. You know, you have a group

those but there are a lot of there are a lot of boomer blacks who are happy about this they're like yes because I'm tired of going to Walgreens and it's getting robbed when I'm trying to go pick up my medication you know I want to be able to

walk to the bus station or take the bus without somebody on the bus with a gun and threatening to rob people and you go into high crime areas and pull the people in the high crime areas all the time they're like yes we want more police. The people that want to defund the

police, the people that don't want more police they're always wealthy people that don't live in the high crime area. Exactly. Almost all the time. So this isn't unpopular with the people that it's affecting. Yes. It's extremely popular with the people that it's affecting because those people are the

ones that have to live with the crime. They have to live with the vagrants. They have to live with the homeless people in the area. They have to live with homeless people do crazy stuff because there's the Ben diagram of homeless people, mentally ill people, and drug users is almost a circle, right? Like homeless people and mental illness go hand in hand.

Homeless people and drug use go hand in hand. There is a reason why they're homeless, and very rarely is it chronic homelessness, not that there aren't people that fall on hard times, but chronic homelessness is almost always mental illness and drug use. Those two things are hand in hand. So people that live in these areas, they don't want. to open up their door like our guest last night Adam was saying, you know, you open up your door and there's a homeless guy sitting on your on your stoop. Like nobody wants that.

Yeah. Yeah, don't nobody want that. People want to live in clean and safe environments. That's what most people want. The people who don't care about that, they are dirty and disgusting and they just don't care about nothing, nothing at all, evidently, you know? They don't care about their surroundings. They don't care about their community. They don't care about safety. They don't care about their community being clean. They're just living a life, committing crimes and partying and smoking and drinking. And they don't give a damn, okay?

Seriously. It totally tracks. Like when you see people that advocate really heavily for the homeless or they're like really concerned about mental health issues or they're really upset about ice raids, they're typically really dysgenic looking. And it's because a dysgenic soul will like present itself. it manifests itself physically, and it's also manifesting itself in their politics. They're voting for the most dysgenic, disgusting policies. It's a war on beauty. And when you see stuff like

homeless people sitting next to these beautiful monuments that were built hundreds of years ago, that's just the FU to beauty. That's all that's happening here. They just hate things that are beautiful. That's why they want to destroy children. That's why they want to take beautiful young men and women and transition them and load them up with drugs and cut them up. It's a war on beauty, fundamentally it's the same argument as um the left in these uh offals saying that um black folks or people of color can't get IDs to vote like nobody has IDs they can't get IDs they don't know what they don't know how to use computers for gosh they can't you got ID right Kathy Holtchell did how to use what is that exact same thing and then when you talk to the people in the town

you talk to people on sheets of course I have an ID I say this I say this all the time let me tell you same thing in the black it is I'm telling you right now Now, if that is the truth, if somebody is lying or maybe these liquor stores are not checking IDs, because a lot of places where I grew up, there was a liquor store on every street. And a lot of black people were in them liquor stores buying liquor, okay? Now, you mean to tell me that these people can't get an ID, but they're in a club every weekend? They're in the club, Turk, in the sexy red. They're driving. They paid to go see Cardi B at the club, but they ain't got no ID.

when they check the ID at the door and then hold on some people don't have an ID so they're using a fake ID so they still know how to get some type of ID even if it's fake they still got an ID they still got an ID I found that people on the lower end of the income scale are the best at exploiting

government programs like masterful like I used to like I've had a few jobs where you interact with a lot of people that just scam for a living and it's like when they explain to me the procedures and protocols of how they like hack these government systems I'm like I couldn't ever occur of, like, you're a genius in the realm of scamming.

It's like, how do we, how do we funnel these scammers until, like, until. Right now, this is, this is, this is the year, this is the year 2025. This is not, this, we are not living in B.C. times, okay? If you want something, you can just, it may not be easy, but you can get it. Now, especially an ID, you can just go,

you can get a state ID if you can't drive. You can go get an ID from, you can go to the library and get an ID. okay but we are like we are lived in the greatest country in the world if you want something you can get it that doesn't mean it's going to be easy nothing in life

is easy but black people can black people can they can achieve anything anything but the Democrats don't want them to believe that because they need them they need them for their votes and they don't want them you know we need you so we're going to tell you

that you can't get this unless you vote for me that's what I mean you can't do this unless you vote for me. And also, I'm going to tell you something you can do, but this is something you can do, but I'm going to tell you, you can't do it. You don't know how to go get an ID. Do you understand me? You don't know how to.

So, and you don't know how to, okay? So we're running on that. So you don't need an ID to vote. Don't get one because we want to run on. You don't know how to get one. That's what I'm saying. It's so stupid. They're telling that with the whole ID thing, they can't get IDs.

They're also telling the local residents who live. in the city, live in the area that they're safe. There's no crime going on there. But when you speak to the local folks, there's mad interviews going on right now. You see people on the street. How do you feel about this? I'm like, yo, I love this Trump coming in. I love that to bring in these people that crack down the streets.

Because you know what? This young girl got shot the other day. This young man got shot the other day on my street. Like, we want this. It's good for us. Because a lot of those people have lost their grandchildren and children to gun violence. Yes. It's a whole 30-year lie.

It's a bull. Cauls by gang violence. and drug dealing in the neighborhood Yeah, I mean this comes back to why people want police, why people that are affected by crime want police in the neighborhoods. Even criminals need the police because

I tell you right now, if if Lil Pookie's homie's homie's homie gonna call the police 9-1-1 my only just got shot. Can somebody come right now? We need to help with somebody. Somebody gets some help. My homie just got shot and get some help in this mother's blah.

You know, like, they even called a police. Hello? Can y'all come get this? He ain't paid his child, so I'm Paul. Oh, hi. You know, like, I mean, black, like, the people that scream defund, they even, they do need the police at some point, you know? I'm just saying, yeah, like.

The local residents aren't saying defund. It's the freaking the uppity. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Sorry, yeah, you were saying, Tate. No, he stole my line for me. Oh, yeah. We'll keep getting down.

The baby mama line. Oh, yeah. I saved you from some trouble. That's true. I appreciate that. You're looking out for me. All right, we're going to jump to this story here. And one of the parts or one of the mentionable things about this story is the way that Huffington Post framed it and the headline they use.

Maga Biggest Loser Star has meltdown defending white people during CNN slavery talk. Every single thing is like, oh, no, no, no, this is all because white people bad. And that's just not the truth. Jillian Michaels told anchor Abby Phillips. Jillian Michaels had been fairly at least friendly with the progressives until COVID. She's one of the people that when COVID hit, she really had an issue with it. So we're going to jump into this here from the Huffington Post. Yeah, it's Huff Post.

Biggest loser coach and Donald Trump supporter. They have to point out that she's a Donald Trump supporter. So that way the reader knows this person is evil. person is bad. We framed that this person, you're supposed to dislike what this person says. Biggest loser coach and Donald Trump supporter, Jillian Michaels, had a stunning meltdown Wednesday night while defending white people during a fiery debate about the president's efforts to rewrite U.S. history.

This is in context of just an overall redoing of the way that things with the Smithsonian are framed. And this is something that Donald Trump. has talked about and he ran on this the the framing of history so that way the united states is a is a villain in the united states is going to end and it should end right there are plenty of places around the world that hate the united states right and there are definitely ways that you can frame arguments to make the united states look bad but the united states the american people should not be funding things that make America

out to be the villain of every story. They shouldn't. You know what? And I, yeah. Before we get in, before we go, let's listen to this piece on CNN, what they were, what they're actually referring to here. The leader and what the MAGA organization wants. Can we address some of those things that are in there? Because have you looked at

some of the things that are being reviewed? Yeah, slavery. Yeah, slavery was a bad thing that was to talk about. Okay. Like, he forgets me for saying that. He's not whitewashing slavery. So he's not. No. Okay. He's not. And you cannot tie imperialism and racism and slavery to just one race, which is pretty much what every single exhibit does. Well, let's talk about the fact that when you can't tie slavery, let's talk about the fact. Slavery in America was, you know, is it only less than 2% of white Americans owned slaves? But it was a system of white supremacy. Do you realize that slavery is thousands of years old?

Do you know who is the first race to try to end slavery? Well, what's controversial? I'm sorry, Jill. I'm very surprised. This is an extraordinary exercise in historical revisionism. I'm really surprised. Jillian, I'm surprised that you're trying to litigate who was the beneficiary of slavery. I'm not. What I'm trying to tell you is that... In the context of American history, in the context of American history, what are you saying is incorrect by saying that it was white people oppressing black people?

Every single thing is like, oh, no, no, no, this is all because white people bad. And that's just not the truth. Like, for example, every single exhibit, I have a list of every single one. Like, people migrated from Cuba because white people bad. Not. So, and to her point, we're going to bring up something from the Smithsonian. Now, a lot of people may remember this, but the, uh, this is a talking point, uh, papered or, or, I don't, I don't know what's, pamphlet or whatever, um, distributed by the, the Smithsonian, right? about whiteness and white culture and the things that they were telling, you know, telling people that were going to the Smithsonian,

things that were considered bad. Rugged individualism, family structure, emphasis on scientific method, Protestant work ethic, based, religion, Christianity is the norm, anything other than Judeo-Christian tradition is foreign, no tolerance for deviation from single-god concept. That is, that is traditionally the way that, you know, not just white people. But white and black people in America I mean there's a lot of Southern Baptists that are black right Like absolutely The way that the that most Americans conceptualize religion

Status power and authority Wealth is worth Your job is who you are respect authority Heavy value on ownership of goods space property Future orientation plan for future Delayed gratification Progress is always best tomorrow will be better Time follow rigid time schedules

Timed views as a command aesthetics, which a hundred percent, based on European cultures, steak and potatoes, bland is best. I don't know. I don't know about that. What? I don't know. I don't even know where that comes from. I don't know. I know for a fact, white people fought

tons of wars. Pepper. Just for pepper. Yeah. That's true. I don't know where, how that's white. You just wanted to do it because we could show we could. Women's beauty based on blonde, thin. I don't know about blonde. I mean, you know, I do like thin women. I do think that I think that it's good to be thin, to not be overweight. We were just talking about the fact that 75% of Americans are overweight, 50% of Americans are obese.

And also, heart disease and cancer are the two biggest killers in the United States, and both of them are strongly related to obesity. Holidays, justice based on English common law. There's no debating whether or not the United States laws are based on English common law, protect property entitlements if you don't protect property your society will fall apart the very foundation of our society is based on property rights and the very first property that you own is your body and your life that's why the government can't take your liberty or your property including your body from you without due process intent counts so it does matter if you're

trying to hurt something or trying to do something good competition winning is important important. Winner loser dichotomy, action orientation, master and control nature, must always do something about a situation. It's a good idea to do things when there's a problem, like do things to fix that. Communication. The King's English rules, yes, we speak English in the United States, and I think that it should be the only language that any government documents are produced in. Written tradition, avoid conflict and intimacy. I don't know how that's whiteness. Don't show emotion. Stoicism there's some value in it for men but not for women. Don't discuss personal life.

Be polite. You know, that's a good way to not get punched in the face. I thought the Smithsonian hated. I thought they hated white people. This is nauseating. This is something. This is an outline for how to have a good,

productive life, and they're saying that these things are bad. Yeah. I thought the whole thing was the Smithsonian hated white people. This is like they're glazing us. This is great. Unstopable. No, yeah, like the Jillian.

I mean, that aside, like, it's beyond. they specifically single out like English like the anglosphere like they they they single out yeah Anglo-Americans wasps and they single out the British and who are the two countries that specifically the British Empire was the first to really abolish slavery and they fought so many wars globally globally and the Americans spilled half a million young men's blood to abolish slavery and then we're like the only two countries that get singled out for this more people died at Gettysburg than died in the in the Americans died in the entire Vietnam War.

Yeah. 54,000 people died. Yeah, we're like single-handedly held response to slavery. It's like, we're the reason it's abolish. It's crazy that slavery, every year slavery is a hot topic. Something that does not exist in America anymore. It is the hottest topic.

Every year, it is one of the hottest topics. It has been abolished for, I don't know how long, okay? Slavery has been, slavery has been a part of just mankind you know it's been around thousands of years thousands of years i'm not going to lie if i was trying to build a country and i didn't have help and i didn't have people wanting to help me and i'm fighting some people or i know some people there's some slaves that's for sale i'm buying some slaves to help me build my damn country that's all i'm saying that's kind of crap i'm just saying like america need they needed

slaves at the time because they could not, they were not able to slave the Native Americans because the Native Americans, they knew the land when they would run away. The Europeans don't know where to find them. They don't know where to find Mr. Running with the Wolves. He'd be fast.

He ran with the wolves. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of them and people don't know this too. You know, I'm from Oklahoma so we learned a lot about Native Americans there, you know, because this trail of the whole trail of tears. But anyways, a lot of the Native males did not do crop work. They did not do

the job, which women did all the gardening and the crop, and the males were hunters. So it was beneath a lot of them to even plant a tomato. They were not going to, they would rather die. Some of them rather die than the plant a damn tomato, you know? So, I mean, it was, they couldn't

slave these Native Americans. And the Spaniards, you know, the Spaniards were involved in the slave trade heavily. Oh, yeah. And they are the ones who introduced the African slaves to the Americans and they started that whole thing why don't y'all just bought them are they already in chains

there's something like and you know like they are see people don't want to talk about this this is true right you're right because they only blame the English we keep talking about who bought the slaves let's talk about who sold the slaves

Alexandria Ocasio Cortez should not be talking about Because your great, AOC, your great-grandpape, was selling slaves, okay? Yeah. There was like a quarter of a million slaves in the United States, right? Yes. Before the, I think before the country. Like in Haiti and all those.

And people don't even understand this. And black people, there were some black slave owners as well. Yeah. And I'm trying to find out actively right now. I'm trying to, y'all don't know. People, if you're just coming in there, my name is Terrence, K. Williams. I'm trying to find out if somehow I. have an ancestor

that used to own slaves because it could be some money out there for me right now, some inheritance or something because there were black slave owners. I could come from a black slave owner. I don't know because I grew up in foster care so I don't know all my family history.

But there's a possibility that my great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, grandpap on some slaves and I got some inheritance out there somewhere waiting on me. So if I look like any old black slave owner that you know of, please let me know. I could be entitled to

something. Anthony Johnson was the first slave owner in the United States. Anthony Johnson was a colonist. He was a black guy. What's his last name? Anthony Johnson. I'm going to look into that, and I'm going to put a statue up of my great, great, great, great, grandpap. I don't care if he owned slaves. I'm going to be proud of my great, great

great grandpa. There was There was... Maybe he was Irish, too. It's real wild. It's real avant-garde. There was five million slaves in Brazil just in Brazil and through the whole

of the Spanish colonies there were slaves in the Caribbean there were slaves everywhere all over the place it was not an American thing no it was

and it was normal at the time people act like Americans invented slavery Americans may have been the last ones to really do it

no because there's still slavery in the Middle East there's still slavery There's no ball of slavery in the 20th century. They're still, there's still slavery in that. America's one of the, well,

I would say this, we are one of the last ones to be, well, we're the greatest country in the world. That's why. Could be doing slavery, you know.

Yeah, it was the greatest country. But anyways, but it was needed at the time. Listen, I don't agree with slavery, period, but it was needed.

If it was needed at the time, they needed the slaves, it was normal to them. It was, we're talking about a time. Everybody back in a day was crazy in my mind. opinion. Everybody of all colors. They were all

crazy. I mean, people back in a day, 500,000 years ago, they were a different breed, you know? 500,000 years? I mean, I said 500 to 1,000 years ago. I mean, these are people who would gather around to watch somebody be

executed in public. And they're like, oh my God! That guy just got hung. They're picking their kids up to see it. Hold on, honey, you don't want to miss it. he just chopped his head off oh my god that's so great oh today was a great day did you miss the public execution like

I would throw up like watching that right I mean everybody back then was built differently and slavery was normal okay it was a normal thing but let's stop talking about who bought can we talk about it was it was it was two parties involved okay you can't be mad at the person who bought the slaves

only be mad at the ones who sold the slaves it was called the slave trade not the slave kidnapping okay yeah it's a good point it's true yeah well I mean and you can see the barbarism on display of like specifically Latin American slavery you cited that number 4.8 million slaves were imported to Brazil African slaves versus 380,000 imported the United States but today the African descented population in America is 40 million so 40 million out of 380,000 and in Brazil it's about 110 million out of 4.8 million so you can see the devastation and the amount of death and churn because like in In Brazil, unfortunately, they would, like, there's a lot of castration involved, and they would just, they didn't view them as, like, an investment.

It was literally just, like, work until you die. And in America, it was, it was not justifying it, but it's just, like, blame America and hold us as, like, the purest form of evil. And then you can look on the same hemisphere and see, like, barbarism that would, I mean, you wouldn't even able to sleep reading about it. If I could go back and change time, I would, I wouldn't change anything. I don't care if people don't like it. They don't love how the founding fathers built this country, but everything they did led to this being the greatest country in the world, okay? The greatest country.

And I wouldn't change anything. Because if you change one thing, this would not be the greatest country in the world, okay? And that happens. Sometimes people suffer for the greater good. Butterfly effect. This one thing that I've subject of slavery, what really got me, was individual ruggedism. Is that what it was? Rugged individualism.

Yeah. like there are a lot Hassan al-Wazen the Jesus names are tough Matthew Henson Jane Batiste Point de Sable like a lot of These are a lot of black

adventurers and rugged individuals who went in an adventure and explored the world like white people are not the only effing people and the whole history of our of our country to go out there and explore things and to find things and to make themselves better and make their family better and live out life

and just do things it's a real mark on the race of black people like oh you guys never did anything cool you guys just sat down on your hands all days and he didn't actually go out in the land which you but you actually did one of the things that's worth noting here right is the the protestant work ethic and i think that there's that is one of the main reasons why the united states is what it is and why the u.s. has been so successful you see the way that the protestant work ethic has affected the United States versus all of the and I know that they're going to be some people that are going to be upset about this

but all the Catholics in South America right there's a lot of like all of the all of South America it was heavily influenced by the Catholics because Spain Spain and Portugal had the Catholics you know that kind of influence because they were that's where those colonies were the United States was was largely influenced by the Protestants because of Wasp white and white

Anglo-Saxon and Protestants. And if you look at Northern Europe, you see a similar result because of that work ethic, right? So, England, the Scandinavia, a lot of the Northern Germany and stuff like that. It's all, all that same kind of successful societies because of that work ethic. And that's undeniable. And it has, and whether or not people like it, it has nothing to do with being white because you see a similar work ethic with the Japanese and the Chinese. 100% yeah absolutely and you and you see like even that even the the the rugged individualism like that stems from Protestantism that stems from the Puritans they came over they were hyper like

hyper Calvinists because they viewed themselves that they didn't need any intercessor they viewed themselves as self-relying on God they viewed themselves as individual they didn't need any institution and that's where the the fundamental anti-institutionalism of the United States comes from that's where that individualism comes from and you're seeing kind of a denial of that today but I mean that's absolutely right like what you're saying yeah And not only is it a denial, but it's the total rejection of it, or an attempt at a total rejection. That's one of the things that will destroy our society is a rejection of things like hard work, saying that that, thinking that that is not important.

The idea that you don't have to do, you don't work now, you can put it off. That's one of the things that built our country, and that's one of the things that you see younger generations getting away from. And that's a terrible thing. I see it all the top. And you know what? And it's some of the parents' fault, too. And I talked about this with some of my family members. When I heard some of my young nephews or cousins say, well, I'm only 18.

I got time. I can wait to do this and wait to do that. I can wait to get my life together. I still got. I hear people on family. Oh, leave him alone. He's just 20. He got time to chase his dreams.

He got time to do this. Just let him have fun and party and do that. No. No, he needs to work. You're not doing nothing at all. just sitting at home, partying, smoking, drinking, go get a job, work, do something. And then they say, well, we shouldn't even really have to work to have water and electricity when you should, when God made light, so why do we got to pay for light?

That's so stupid. Like, people don't, these young, a lot of young people don't want to work. And I think it's the fault of some of the parents too. Sure. Because they are not instilling that hard work in their children at all. They're not instilling that in these children. and you know go to work and they're like when do I got to wake up

like oh can I just wake up when I'm supposed to wake up and go to sleep when I'm supposed to go to sleep what you're going to have no food effing no you can't right you can't just you're not going to grow crops I'm just going to sleep in late so I'm going to miss these crops this time

rather than starve to death they yeah these yeah like they yeah they just like the work ethic is just like one of my no just yelled at that yeah like no you can't my first foster parent his name is John Earl

John Earl Salmon This man was born in the 1930s. He did not even finish high school. He dropped out so he can help take care of his siblings because his parents, I think they passed away or whatever. So he stepped up to take care of all of his siblings. It was probably about six or seven of siblings. He was working in the cotton fields, working hard, put all of his siblings through college,

all of his siblings, and then put all of his children through college. He was able to, he worked his butt off. He was in the cotton fields. He was selling, he was working at meat factories, doing lawn work, doing everything he could do. And put all his siblings through college, also and put all his kids through college, got them all and bought them all land in houses and didn't even have an education at all. Couldn't even read. But he worked his butt off. If he can do with these people today have no freaking excuse.

No excuse at all. That's what I hate most about this modern iteration of American culture is we've lost that sense of, I think this most beautiful description of Americans is that we're like temporarily embarrassed millionaires. All of us in our heads are millionaires. Just some of us aren't quite there yet. And that mentality carried us to greatness. And it's getting wiped out in like two generations. Tragic. Nothing about modern American life resembles early America in any meaningful way.

And that's devastating. We need to recapture it before it's gone for. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, a lot of the, I mean, I think that a lot of it has to do with the fact that obviously the 1800s were hard. Sure. Right? So until the 1900s. And then there's a big shake up in the early 20th century. Well, and not only that, then you had the Great Depression, which is not just in the U.S., although the U.S. had, you know, its fair share of suffering because of it.

But those generations that live through that stuff live through real hardship. And then after that, there hasn't been significant hardship on the same level since. So the boomers didn't have to deal with it. My generation didn't have to deal with significant hardship. And then millennials and Gen Z haven't had to. So there's been no, there's been no actual contact with what human history was like prior to, say, World War II. Right? The 20th century is steeped in blood.

It is an absolute horror show. more people died at the hands of their own governments than any other century in human existence and since 1940 end of World War II since 1945 it has been smooth sailing in the United States generally right there are times where you're going to say

oh this was hard and there was a recession or whatever there hasn't been a depression there hasn't been 20% 25% unemployment there hasn't been a massive. I mean, even COVID, which you know, the pandemic, right? Even that wasn't

significantly awful. Modernity's softened the blow. Yeah. You just sat at home and watched Netflix and the government sent you checks. And people didn't, you know, people weren't dying. Oh, and people, people received checks too. Yeah, yeah. Okay. It happens in 1920. There's going to be like riots, the whole country burns down to be horrible. People were not receiving

the Spanish flu. Right. You know, a lot of people died. And there were government policies. that made it worse here like all of these things that that basically reminded society or reminded a people what real human life has been like up until basically 1950 none of the generation since have had to actually in the in the west have had to interact with that at all human existence has been a slog through mud and suffering and death up until about 1950 And so now we have a society of people, boomers included, that haven't had to deal with real adversity.

There are a select few people that have had to deal with hard things in their lives. And most of them have had to go overseas to deal with it. So are we screwed? I mean, to be honest with you, like the whole, you know, hard men or soft men create hard times, it's likely that we're in, you know, in the soft men part creating hard times. Yeah, well, when you feminize a society, you insulate it from any hardship. I mean, part of the reason you had these massive events taking place before the post-world order was because men were risk takers and we structure our societies and make gambles with our societies

in ways that you don't see now, where now it's as careful and calculated as possible. So, okay, I mean, yes, there was obviously these massive blowups, the World Wars being great examples. But most of these mass, these hardship events that we're referring to were just an outcome. of societies that took risks and pushed the envelope forward. And you don't get this 300, 400, 400 years of development that we saw, you know, post-enlightment, really, without societies at large taking massive gambles. And you're going to get conflict. It's going to happen. It's natural.

Yeah. All right. We're going to jump to this last story here to wrap up this. From the AP, Supreme Court allows Mississippi to require age verification on social media like Facebook and Facebook. The Supreme Court on Thursday refused for now to block enforcement of a Mississippi law aimed at regulating the use of social media by children an issue of growing national concern. The justices rejected an emergency appeal from a tech industry group representing major platforms like Facebook's Facebook X and YouTube. Net Choice is challenging laws passed in Mississippi and other states that require social media users to verify their ages and ask the court to keep the measure on hold while a lot. lawsuit plays out. There were no noted dissents from the brief unsigned order. Justice Brett Kavanaugh

wrote that there is a good chance Net Choice will eventually succeed in showing that the law is unconstitutional, but hadn't shown it must be blocked while the lawsuit unfolds. Net Choice argues that the Mississippi law threatens privacy rights and unconstitutionally restricts the free expression of users of all ages. A federal judge agreed and prevented the 2024 law from taking effect, but a three-judge panel of the Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals ruled in July that the law could be enforced while the lawsuit proceeds. It's the latest legal development

as court challenges play out against similar laws in states across the country. Parents and even some teenagers are growing increasingly concerned the effects of social media use on young people. Supporters of the new laws have said they are needed to help curb the explosive use of social media among young people and what researchers say is an associated increase in depression and anxiety.

So do you guys think that this would be a legitimate law that should pass or do you think that it's a bridge too far? My initial gut instinct is kids shouldn't be on social media, right? Like if you're under 13, you shouldn't be on social media. I think that it's probably damaging to kids. I think that parents shouldn't allow their kids to have social media from 13 to 16, 70. I'm not sure if a law is the right way to do it, though. How else we're going to do it? Well, you have now you have children who have YouTube channels.

You look at a, what's that little, it's a famous kid named Ryan's Toys or something? Oh, yeah, he's like six. Yeah, he's like six. I mean, he's been hustling on YouTube since he was like probably three selling toys and playing with toys and have millions of followers. So, I mean, I think if, I think kids can have one if their parents, if it's a lot of, under their parents, uh, if their parents, if the parents are managing their accounts, you know, I don't think it's any, the parents need to be managing the accounts. But I don't think it's, uh, I don't think it's, I mean, I'm not against kids not using the internet. I

don't think they should be on their, I mean, look at X. X allows a lot, it's a lot of porn on X, you know, and, and people are allowed to post porn on X. Elon has not banned porn on X. It is, uh, it is freedom of speech on there, you know? So if, so, uh, so, uh, anybody can get on there 13, 12, 5 years old 7 years old set believe it or not 5 year olds know how to get on the internet

They can get on and watch whatever they won't And they shouldn't be able to do that If it's porn on there That you can watch without Doing an age, there's also the argument That if you have to have Some kind of age verification It does away with anonymity

And now whether or not You think it's a good thing to do away with anonymity it does prevent people from making ghost accounts or making bot accounts you have you can it is likely that you could assume that accounts are actually people in the future if there has to be age verification or at least you'd know or there would be some way to know and I personally think that that's a good thing to now again I'm not saying that there should be legislation that that people have to you know that I don't think the government needs must get involved and I'm not sure that the means to do it without. I think it should be a state issue.

But I do think that in the future, if we're talking about dead internet theory all the time and we're concerned with whether or not accounts that are on the internet are actually people, this might be a way to make sure that they are people. Well, I'm very skeptical of age verification because like something people that understand is everyone's getting really excited about Gen Z swinging to the right, especially Gen Z men. Well, if you didn't have internet access and anon accounts, that's not happening. That's going to be just another Democrat generation

just like the millennials. So it's like, I understand the motive. I'm not saying people, especially in Mississippi, because Mississippi is a great state. I'm not speculating these people of malicious intent. I think they actually are trying to look up for children, but you need to understand that access to information when you're a teenager is what is creating

such a right-wing reaction among young people. That matriculation does not occur because they're just going to be exposed to what they see at public school. Yeah, well, it's a balance between like the anons who wanted to go and turn right compared to the government overreach. To your point, are social media sites the same thing in your estimation as sites like 4chan? Because the phenomenon you're talking about got it start on pole. Got it start at 4chan, but the average zoomer right winger, he saw a, you know, a based edit on Instagram and then he's, like, I want that.

And Trump's too far left. So do you think that that something like 4chan is a different animal? Or do you think that it's a social, that it counts a social media? Well, Fchand's kind of lost its aura a little bit. That's why I'm not, I'm not like going specifically for. Message boards and stuff? Things like that. Do you think that message boards are the same thing as social media?

Well, they're not the same thing. And, I mean, I think. As far as this legislation would go or this kind of kind of thing would go is the point that I'm making. I think so it would be mostly app. like the verification would take place during apps because it needs to be an established LLC that can process ID verification or contract someone that can process the ID verification. Yeah, I mean, I guess some people might think that it is an invade of privacy. You might have some people who want to make an account and they want to dunk on people and say crazy stuff and then, you know, they may not want their identity. They may not want X or Facebook to know their identity.

Now, is there a way? I would not be opposed to this at all. Maybe there is, no, there's always a way. When there's a will, there's a way. It's always a way. All this technology is possible. For instance, if people are, if people don't want their kids seeing certain things on the internet, okay, you know, like for instance, there are like some of these only fan models

that are all over the internet, right? Because that is a big thing, porn on the internet, okay? I don't think this is where some of this is coming from as well. Absolutely. For him being on the internet. So if an account is actually posting porn, nudes, videos, maybe there is a way for X or Facebook to have a, I don't know, where they may not, people may not like that.

And age verification, if you want to view a page that's full of nudity. Well, I mean, yeah. I mean, you know, some people may say, oh, no, I don't want to watch it. Then that mean you are watching that page then. Because if you're not watching that, then you don't care. So we know who cares if they're against that. But I would not be opposed to that at all, you know, and that means allowing the youth to be on the Internet by market. Now, don't be marking political pages for, if you want to view Tim Poole's page, you've got to show age verification because he's full of conspiracy theories.

I think that goes without saying, though. Yeah, I think only for like nudity accounts. Well, yeah, I mean, well, one workaround. I mean, I think this actually is achievable in the next few years is just outright banning pornography. That would be fantastic. That would solve all our problems. the other thing I mean there's so much at play here like keeping an anonymity on the internet is essential because like for example people are so thankful that this is the most conservative

presidential administration we've seen in a long I mean certainly in the modern era and you have to credit that to Twitter anons because you see you'll see a discussion happen on Twitter there'll be an argument you know whatever and there's movers and shakers watching that and then three months later the Trump administration you start hearing talks that there's officials that are entertaining these ideas like the federalization of dc this was being argued on twitter about three months ago by people with anon accounts and goofy profile pictures so it's like it's people that have really nice these are smart guys that have well-paying jobs and and families that can't risk getting you know their lives destroyed so they have to maintain anonymity and so that's that's

essential i understand the privacy concerns of the edge verification but i mean are you concerned when you give you know a gas station clerk your id i mean they scan it who knows where that's going So I think I've said this in the show. I think that the idea of privacy is more an idea that's kind of passei. Yeah. And not this isn't, this is, again, for all the people that are going to take this and get all worked up because I'm saying it, this isn't something that I endorse. This is just something that I think is a reality nowadays. I think the idea of internet privacy is actually gone.

I think that people like to talk about it and they like to think that they like to think that they. have privacy, but then they pump all their information into Instagram, pump all their and every, they pump in all that you need to know to actually find out who they are. Shia Labouf got found in the middle

of nowhere because of contrails when he took a picture of a flag. He took a picture of just a flag. That's it. And there were, it was just blue sky behind it and they found him. Yeah. And it would, 4chan found him. And it

wasn't weeks later it was it was very fast yeah i don't think so the idea of privacy yeah if you're taking pictures of anything anything at all the i saw one i saw one of those uh a video of some dude that figured out where a woman was because she took a picture of grass oh yeah it was a yeah rainbow i think is his name yeah and he can like find anything anywhere and you look you look like a pole and he'll go out there and get the DNA test he'll find out exactly where i saw there There were people on 4chan that were helping calling strikes on Russians. So as much as people like to say, you know, anonymity is important to me, you're only anonymous if people don't care. If people care, they're going, they're, and you put picture, if you don't do anything except for use one account that never puts up pictures from the real world, maybe.

but most people don't have that kind of privacy and also the the intel community has relationships with journalists everyone knows this and that's how a lot of these anons get doxed is the intelligence agencies will pass along the information to a journalist and then the journalist will come up with a way of how they like they geniusly they broke it i think it's happened to raw like nationalists and uh yeah so it's like it is important to have anonymity and whatnot but if you really are a big threat you know the intel The Intel will pass it along to a journal And to be honest with you Considering the fact that AI

Is still in its infancy Like once AI gets To a certain level of Ability once you get an AI That can really do digging It doesn't take You know the autist on 4chan Anymore

They'll feed them literally feed in two pictures From this account say Where's this account from And the AI will be able to find it I definitely understand why people are annoyed at the anons because it's like okay the world I'm in that I'm plugged into is like there's a lot of these guys that it seem like

well-meaning and they're smart and they have a lot of fun but you go into any influencer I mean you've probably seen it you go to any influencer there's just these vicious people that don't put their names out there because they're too scared to get behind what they say and they just rip people all day long so it's like I also understand why people get frustrated at the anon accounts because it's just people

that are coward cowardly it's just some people like the haters just in like the chat there are people that are talking about you know like people have threatened me in the in the chat people have talked about there was someone that was talking about like who wants Phil's address sure they're going to docks me

you have to take the good with the bad with the a lot I have a message that I received that I posted on Instagram I want to read it and during the after show it is okay it is some message it was exciting times yeah but

and I know that person would not want to put in their identification yeah so for the kids I don't know how to I don't have a fixed situation, but kids, you know, a young kid, six years old, having his toy thing is whatever it is fine, whatever. I don't know, but it does, we've, it's research has shown that it's bad for kids. Yeah, I mean, I've had Twitter, I've had a Twitter account since I was 12 years old. I mean, this could fix the issue, too.

You turn out okay. If you have a child, don't let them on the internet. Don't give them phone, don't like. Up to the parents. Huh? The parents. Sometimes it's up to the parents, too. Well, yeah, sure.

We don't need the state the government to be like, yeah, you can't do this. Well, yeah. parent, you have to buy the phone. I agree. That 12 year old can't buy no phone? Yeah, I think it's just... You bought the phone. You put the internet on there. Right. I mean, you can, you can, they even have options where you can, where you can, uh... You lock them, too. Yeah, where you can lock certain apps.

Yeah. So, some of the parents are allowing this. They don't, some of them don't care. All the parents are allowing this. Yes. It just seems like outsourcing this to the state seems a bit redundant. And then also, like I said, I don't trust the motive behind it because I think a large, and I think this was a big part of the TikTok ban is they're trying, there's a huge containment breach of ideas, right? People don't want to vote. for Mitt Romney anymore and they have to figure out a way to shove everyone back into a box

and a big part of that is limiting online discourse and a lot of teenagers I mean that's really bad for children to be on the internet but a lot of teenagers 1617 that's when you start being exposed to like conservative thought that's when you start seeing turning point events I'm not going to lie I have considered making an A and 9 account

I've considered that I consider I have considered making a troll account myself I'd be willing to say some things I can't say on my personal page I'd be wanting to go cousin W's I have considered it. You know, just make children normal again. Real.

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Sheen H. Wilder says tomorrow at 10 a.m. The Texas house will end the special session And then immediately gavel a new special session If any Dems return, they'll be taken to the house and locked in to have a quorum. I don't imagine there will be a significant number of Texas state Democratic representatives that are going to show up for work tomorrow. Yeah, I mean, they're threatening checks, and a lot of these Texas, well, just state reps in general,

actually don't make very much money, and a lot of them do depend on those checks. So dangling the checks over there, it actually might draw a good amount of them back. It already is drawing a good amount of them back. I've been busy doing some stuff Blue-collar stuff and I haven't been on the news I'm seeing anything but I didn't see that they passed the

redistricting so I assumed that they came back but I found out today with you guys he didn't come back the Democrats want to be arrested because they believe that they would love to have handcuffs on them they are going to run with

that I mean you would we would not hear the end of it the president of the United States is arresting his opponents. He is a true dictator. And a bunch of them, you got some of them that are black, the black ones, they really going to run it up. I mean, they're going to get so many donations.

It's going to be crazy. Do you know any of the, of the Democrat, the Texas Democrats that have fled? And if you do, do you think they're talented enough to capitalize on the attention? Absolutely. They need something. They're desperate for something. No, no. But do you think they're talented enough to capitalize on it?

Obviously, it will get them. attention but will they be able to you are they politically talented enough to take that attention and turn it into something meaningful that will take them out of only texas politics and put them onto the national stage and will they have staying powers like a certain person maybe or two yeah um yeah i think i think some of them are talented enough to do that that is what they've been doing for a very long time turning nothing into something you know they they know how to do that they know how to do that and CNN and MSNBC are going to help them

they're going to help them I think they would I don't know of any Not not all of them But they're going to help them you know Yeah I don't know I don't know of any I don't know the names in particular But this would be an opportunity Where that if they are

Politically savvy They could turn it into a national They all want a Trump moment They all want to be arrested Because you know They thought it would hurt Trump And it helped them But the point that I'm making is, you can't, like, just getting onto the stage doesn't mean you perform well.

Yeah. Like, so I had this experience in my, in my career as a musician. We wanted to get on this one big tour called OzFest, and we had the opportunity, and our agent was like, don't do it. And I was like, what the heck are you talking about? Because I was like, you do OzFest, and that means you are a big band after that. But with the year that we got the first offer, we didn't have a new product to sell. So what our agent said is go back into the studio,

do your next record, your label. He's like, I'll bet you get an offer next year. You got to trust me. But your label will then have a new record to promote, et cetera. And I was like, all right, this seems like a terrible idea to me because I didn't understand. But we got the opportunity to the next year. We did it. We had all of our ducks in a row to capitalize on the attention that we got.

I don't know if the Democrats have any people that can capitalize on that kind of attention. They're going to try to. Yes, agree. That doesn't mean they're going to succeed. But I do believe they are all going to try to do that. You know, there was a time that Gavin Newsom was begging to be arrested. You know, not too long ago he was saying, arrest me. I'm ready to be arrested.

Come and arrest me. What you're going to do? Arrest me. Come arrest me. Like, they want to be arrested because, yeah, they want to be arrested because then it's going to, and their minds are going to prove their point that the Republican Party is a dangerous party and they want to arrest their, they are dictators who want to jail and threaten their opponents. Like, it's, yeah, it's. It's great marketing and you can raise a lot of money by being Trump's enemies. He singled me out. And some of them, all they do is just want to. money. Yeah.

Some, they, I mean, think you're just a measly representative in the Texas state. This is your big break if you

get arrested. Exactly. You can go to X. Beto. It's their chance. Yeah. Gary G. says,

caught Creed live last night, based, watching IRL tonight while running on a treadmill even more based. Got to love that.

Get those steps in. Trader Potatoer says, Yo, Phil, what are your thoughts on Mustaine and Megadeth announcing their retirement? Didn't expect Dave to

go on forever, but still, my sadness is immeasural. I tell you what, I think that, like, so most of you guys know, we got the opportunity to tour with Megadeth last year. We did two months worth of touring with him. Dave was not only an absolute gentleman, he was one of the most accommodating people that I've ever had the privilege of touring with. He's a great guy. His family are great. His son is, Justice, is the manager, and I saw Justice around a bunch on the tour. He was great. They were so incredibly cordial and accommodating to all that remains. So I got nothing but good

things to say about Dave. I'm super happy that I got the chance to tour with him before he's decided to retire. Look, Dave has had cancer. The guys in Megadeth are they're all in their late 50s or almost all of them. We're in their late 50s or early 60s. Dave

is, I think he's like 62. So, I mean, look, he's decided to bow out when he still sound sounds great when he still performs great. So that way everybody remembers Megadeth when they were, you know, firing on all cylinders. I wish that, you know, I wish that time didn't do what time does. But, you know, it's, I don't think that you can have a more illustrious career or there are only a handful of bands that have had a more illustrious career than Megadeth. And there are very few people that have had the impact on heavy metal that Dave Mustain has had.

I mean, the guy wrote some of the best songs that. that Metallica place, right? Like some of the stuff, the stuff off, kill them all, and a bunch of things off of Ride the Lightning. That was Dave Mstain that wrote it. So I can't say enough good things about Megadeth and he will absolutely be sorely missed. People age and get old.

Yep. God damn you, whiteness. We are. Real. They do. Let's see. Bike Curious George says, Here is my obligatory rumble rant

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Sarah and I already have a plan like worked out. Once she's had the baby, we've got a plan for when the next baby will be coming. We've got some stuff that we have to handle first. But, you know. Sure, that's cool. Shirgal? Shire gal?

I guess. They're going to claim those 12. 12.4 million dead recipients were voting and donated to Act Blue for decades. I mean, look, man, that's one of the good reasons or one of the good things about cleaning up these roles is you can get rid of the abuse. You know, when people talk about getting rid of the waste fraud and abuse, this is the abuse they're talking about. Let's see. Lady tight says, I've said this many times, but boomers and Gen X have single-handedly rumored. in this country by letting politicians get away with everything and hoarding all the country's wealth

and breeding nepo babies okay i mean it doesn't matter who's fault it is at this point we're just gonna fix it yeah everything needs to be fixed it doesn't matter whose fault it is let's just get to work i mean it is true to say that that boomers and gen x are causing a problem about fixing stuff right like because they're not voting they're voting to to not obstructing it yeah obstructing the the necessary cuts and stuff. So it is legitimate to say that the boomers did that. I'm not sure if the boomers did, you know, made all the problems, though, because it's, it's been coming for a long time.

I personally think that, you know, when you took the dollar off the gold standard, you know, and allowed for the government to just, you know, print up as much money regardless of how much gold was out there. So the Federal Reserve is actually the fundamental problem Because that's where And that goes all the way back to 1913 That was a silent generation So let's keep these generations of going

And hit this right here And I'll take the blame for Not paying attention to politics As a Gen X or last year Gen Xer Because life was so good In the 80s, 90s in 2000s So yeah yeah Yeah I didn't know

I didn't know how bad it was Until it got bad Micah Dot Johnson says Gen Z here I'm far past worrying about Social Security I've given up all hope of ever seeing a cent to the point it doesn't even cross my mind if you're married live on one income and save the rest

look man that is a great advice but it's not that simple because what the government's going to do is inflate the currency they're going to print and that's going to affect you so you may never see Social Security but the government's going to ruin the value of your dollar and it's possible

I don't know that it will happen but it's possible that the government just blows up the dollar totally right like if they start printing money you know start if they start printing money like hyperinflation kind of money right you're talking about the whole

world deciding that they don't trust the United States anymore and that tends to turn into wars so these kind of problems are bigger than just oh you know we won't be able to pay our bills If we default, that'll cause a lot of problems globally because we are the global hegemon and we have the world's reserve currency.

If we start printing money beyond what we've already done, start really getting crazy, not that it's not crazy now, countries are going to start saying we're never getting our money back from the government, from the federal government. So we might as well call in our debt now. that kind of stuff will inspire you know governments to to do really really crazy bad things and that's the kind of stuff that starts world wars so it's not as much as as i understand your your point and i agree with you it goes beyond that and it has a it'll have a negative effect on not just the united states but probably the whole world so we go from m1 to m2 and then we're going to hit M3 and that's going to be the

you know. Yeah, you know. Spooky Tuchan says, Big thanks to Serge Tate and Phil for great takes. Fact checks on Christianity last night. Hope all is well for Tim and Fam. Well done to the team for holding down the fort.

Luke Rukkowski is amazing too. Luke Rukkowski is amazing. All right. I'm not sure what he's amazing at, but he is amazing. He's great. But we appreciate it. And really, you should, you should really, like, it's actually Tate and Serge that really deserve the credit.

I, I piped in a little bit on some of the stuff that I knew, but, like, those guys are the real ones pushing back on them. It sucks because the clip that's getting passed around, it's like, they cut out me and Serge's, like, dunking. But I don't know, maybe we should have gone in earlier. We should have gone in earlier. We got him good, though. We let him cook. We made it, he made his case. You just didn't make to cut, buddy.

He made his case. He, he blasphemed Christ in the process, and we had to step in. I mean, is it just me or does that, should that bit have been on inverted world? I really feel like that was probably more, more appropriate for inverted world because that kind of like, you know, it's not your typical religious talk. It's a lot of... No, that bit should have been for a therapist. He's bringing in penny bags. Yeah, get out of here.

Go test them. All right, let's see. Let's see. 562, Micah says, you thinking the redistricting will not pass. You are completely ignorant of how crazy the people who will vote out here. This is already done. I mean, maybe, you know. We're just going off polling, so.

Yeah, I mean, I could be wrong. Is it worse on the, let us know. Is it on the ground are people actually saying they're going to vote for it? I mean, that'd be interesting. There's a saying, don't mess with Texas. Oh, he's talking about California. Oh, California? Yeah, because they have, in California, the voters have to approve of redistricting because they have an independent commission.

Yeah, I don't know how that's going to work. Yeah, because the polling says it's 6040, but yeah, you can't count out liberal. That said do something really stupid It could pass You never know Anything could happen Anything is possible You know I'm out of the type

To say you know Well I will say never Would AOC being the president Of the United States of America But I will say But I normally don't say never Because anything is possible

Yeah Jason Dixon says Where's Tim That way He's over there He's out beyond yonder On yonder So

Eating Don't worry, I said the same thing when I got here. Where's Tim? I said, how you doing, buddy? He's, like, I don't have a fuck. He's resting up. He's sick. It's, you know, I mean, the guy's normally works like five days a week in the morning

and at night. So, you know, he gets sick and he's like, all right, I'm actually going to take some time off. It also shows how hard he grinds is he. This is like two days and, like, the world. That's treasonous. Yeah, yeah. And you heard his voice the other day. You knew, I heard on IRL.

You could, like, you know something going on. I've been matching, like, barely his schedule, and I'm, like, exhausted for, like, two days. You have been getting it in. For a long time, Tim did everything by himself. Like, he was doing the morning and night, and there was no one that could come in to cover for him. When I came on, when I started working here, like, one of the reasons was so I could cover for Tim so that way he could do other things. And you've got Tate here who can handle the morning show, and then me, Tate, and the crew here can handle the evening show. so it's not like he's never coming back

he's just resting the taking the rest that he needs remember he was doing the morning show and the evening show and he did the culture war for and he was doing the I think he went to the after shows the after parties at the culture war so he's working six days a week he's doing other press yeah and he's doing other things so that like it takes a toll on your body believe me when when you know when all that remains is touring

and I'm doing an hour set like during the day I'm not talking at all and I'm going to bed right after the show. I don't go out I would never go out after the show and go to the bars and stuff like that. I couldn't do that because I wouldn't be able to talk. Never mind sing or scream. It really does

take a toll so he has to get the rest that he needs. He'll go ahead and he'll take the weekend off and I don't know if he's doing anything tomorrow or whatever but he's not going to be here. He'll be off tomorrow and we'll be handling the show. But he'll be back, but he's got to get rest.

You know, he's only human. That dude hates not working He's mad right now that he's not working Like they do grind That's another thing Just because he's not on camera It doesn't mean he's not working Right

He's still in the slack talking Yeah he's still talking and putting Coming up with ideas for For what the The segments should be He's still directing what's going on He's just not talking on camera now So he's taking the time off that he needs

But he'll be back It also says a lot about the the IRL and everyone from like a couple years ago like it was just him and now he's able at that point that success that we're all here that he's able to take time and heal up go team

Mark DeShame says YouTube ID verification begins tomorrow well I'll shit shoot I mean maybe maybe that's going to be the future you know there yeah

there'll be a service that gets away somehow gets around it kind of like ad blog We could invest in that company because it's probably going to blow up. We'll probably go to jail. That's, yeah, sure. He's an ending name. Yeah, exactly. There you go.

Ray. Ray Stevens. There you go. John Hoyle says they'll run Governor Mara Healy in 2028, already astroturfing her, and she's getting visits from large funders. Mara Healy, what state is she from? Mara Healy. I don't know. I have no idea.

Is that Texas? they know by chance No, that's Greg Abbott Oh, you're talking about The main lady Oh, no, no, she's the governor Of Massachusetts, yeah, yeah, she's the governor of Massachusetts Yeah, yeah, she's terrible, yeah

Oh yeah, she's awful Massachusetts, yeah, she is The white lady with the short, uh, gray? Yeah, yeah, she's currently the governor of master I am not a fan of Massachusetts laws Or their politicians So much that I left A lot of years ago

And I'm not going back Only to visit my mom I would never be there Because yeah I wouldn't For the simple fact I can barely pronounce it All right guys So smash the like button

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