Timcast IRL - Trump Floats Accepting 600,000 Chinese Student Visas, MAGA Uproar w/ David "Nino" Rodriguez

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

Jack Posobiec, Phil, Elaad & Tate are joined by David "Nino" Rodriguez to discuss Trump saying the US would accept 600,000 Chinese student visas, a pro wrestler hospitalized after MMA fighter rushes the ring & beats him, and Scotland arresting a 14-year-old girl for allegedly defending her sister from migrants.   Hosts:  Jack @JackPosobiec (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Elaad @ElaadEliahu (X) Tate @RealTateBrown (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: David "Nino" Rodriguez @ninoboxer (X)

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right, folks, we're back, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard. Another edition of the POSOCast, Jack Posobic, host of human events daily here live, filling in for the great Tim Poole. Tim is on the men. And, you know, I see all these people, the conspiracy theory, there is that Tim Poole is dead? No, Tim is not dead like Paul McCartney, who totally died all those years ago during the Beatles. No, Tim is not dead at all. As we know, Phil has him tied up in the basement. Isn't that right, Phil? I can either confirm nor deny that. Yeah, see, there we go. Look, like, all I'm, guys, all I'm saying is, Phil, he's, he's kind of a big guy, and he's good with knots. So, I mean, you know, you know, anyway, look, we got a huge.

show tonight. We've got so much going on. There's a ton happening out in the world. You know, I want to get in. Of course, obviously we've got to rock this first story. We kind of touched on it yesterday regarding the 600,000 Chinese student visas. This comment that was made has absolutely set the internet on fire. There is a MAGA backlash and uproar, if you will to this. And it comes on the same day that a Chinese student, a doctoral student, has been accused of stealing confidential U.S. government research in the United States. So it's a crazy story. We're going to get into that. We're going to get into, of course, charges on Shiloh Hendricks, which is a massive story out of Rochester, Minnesota. We're also going to get

into this viral video, insane video out of Scotland of a young girl having to defend herself with battle axes against a couple of migrants, her and her sister. By the way, Cracker Barrel going back to the old logo. Shout out to all the people who, shout out to all the haters from yesterday. It worked. All right. It worked. Shout out to Tate on that, by the way, who chipped out like an absolute champ for pretty much a week straight. It was rough. Yeah, it was a lot of I do realize that you have to only eat Cracker Brow for a year now. Yeah, I know what I signed up for. Okay, all right.

Pancakes are great. The pancakes are great. It's great. It's Cracker Barlow without the Cracker. We got a bunch of other good stories. We're getting into it all tonight. We're absolutely getting into it all. I want to go in.

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So, guys, let's go in here and do everything we can. Let's let it, let's donate as much as possible to Psycho Stu. Start to get the link out so that people can see it. I think you just go to GoFund Me. You can support Psycho Stu. It's spelled S-Y-K-O-S-T-U. I want to get into that story a little. little bit. Shout out to Mr. Beast, by the way, top donation of $10,000 that's going in,

but only 3,000 people have donated thus far. It's at about, it just broke $100,000, so it's at $112,000 right now. Let's do everything we can for this guy, because this is, you know, it's a horrible thing to see, but it's absolutely something that deserves to be helped with. But we have got a great show tonight, and we have a guest who's going to talk about that and possibly a lot more because folks, I believe, first time on Timcast, right? First time. First time, first time, David Niño Rodriguez. I've had you on my show.

And you've been on my show, right? Yeah, we did the show last year, so it's not our first show, but it's our first time on Tim show. Absolutely, yes. I'm kind of upset. I wanted to see Tim. Not that I did not want to see you. Yeah, I wanted to see Tim. We all went to see Tim.

Tim is absolutely alive, by the way. I can't believe that people would think that Tim's fine. is is not dead he's definitely not dead Tim's fine totally fine in the basement but tell people a little about yourself and and you know kind of how you got started doing this well yeah I mean I just kind of transferred arena as I've been a fighter my whole life I was a top 10 heavyweight container champion boxer 36 and oh at my peak wow had two run-ins with death in 2011 I got knife to why overdose on drugs all right I was a party or I was I was juggling with both extremes, many extremes.

Died twice in 2011, flatlined. Once, when I'm overdosing on drugs, the other time I took a knife to the neck coming out of a bar, they slipped my throat, and I almost died there, came back and didn't have a successful comeback after that. And my life changed. My whole life got nuked. So they didn't take my life.

They took my career. And I was forced to pivot and do something else. So I had to reinvent myself. I could have stayed in boxing. I could have been a trainer. I could have done all that stuff. But I just felt compelled to go into the world of not. I would like to say I kind of follow the deep state war on the politics going on behind the scenes.

That's what I follow. And that's really where that just attracted to me. So would you say that I recognize strategy? So would you say that those experiences that you went through, you know, led you to see those same kind of patterns happening? 100%. Yeah. Yes. Yes.

I can see strategy. I can see patterns. And I just fell into it. And my podcast took off. It's ninoscorner.tv. And it really exploded on the scene. And I'm still going, man. I'm still watching everything.

And I think it's just absolutely, for me, it's like, it's unbelievable to see how Trump is, quote, unquote, beating the odds where he's at right now and seeing everything that's happening. But I see strategy. I see brilliance and I see an operation. That we did great. I remember doing Nino's Corner last year

when we were doing the push for the Unhumans book. and we did a great interview, so... Absolutely. Let's have another one today. Yeah, people love you, man. Ah, they're good. But let's go around the horn. And here's a guy that I have not seen in ages.

It's Alad. What's up, man? Good evening, everybody. Well, why are we both so tan today? I don't know. I didn't think Polax could get that dark. Oh, I get even darker than this, brother. I get even darker.

People will mistake me for Raja Jackson by the end. So good evening, everybody. My name's Alad Eliahu. I'm the White House correspondent here at Timcast. Tate, what's up? What's up, everybody? Tate Brown here holding it down. So you like that. It's a new catchphrase, I think. It's going to work.

Yeah, filled in for the morning. He has to keep telling people that it's a new catchphrase for some reason. You had a really hammer at home. And we had a morning show. We had a great interview today with Congressman Tim Burchett. You got to go check that out. It was excellent. Yeah, so go check that out.

Yeah, hello everybody. My name is Philibonte. I'm the lead singer, the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. Yeah, so Alad and I, by the way, we were at the White House pretty much all day today. They were doing a media row.

and but the the and and and God bless them but the reason we were out there so long is because we they were having this cabinet meeting which which they said okay they're going to have the cabinet meeting and then members of the cabinet will come out and you guys can interview them and it's going to be great and so you know you know do we set up we bring cameras we do the whole thing and they're like okay we're pretty sure the meeting's going to be you know maybe hour and a half maybe two hours max okay maybe two and a half or maybe three it went three and a half hours. So a lot of night, we spent almost four hours out there. At least it was on the South Lawn. It's a good place to be left out to dry. So we were chilling on the South lawn.

Chilling like villains out there. Overlooking the Oval Office. Trump did peep out. President Trump did peep out at one point. But I had a great interview with director, not CIA. What is it? Ice Director, Lions. I think you also had an interview. Yeah, I got to sit down with him. And so we'll put that out soon. But anything at the White House, I feel like, it's a great. opportunity. No, no, it's incredible. And there's something that I feel that this White House is never going to get credit for. And they're doing so even more than the first term. I mean, they're so accessible. They're really so accessible. And they let you talk to the directors and the secretaries on a very one-to-one basis. And they're so open. And I would, I would absolutely

encourage anybody who's out there, Nino, got to get you in there, man. Can I just say something? I forgot to tell it. You got to go. I don't want to go. I don't want to go. I don't want, I don't want, I will go, but I just want to say one thing. I don't want people thinking that you're all sitting here with a degenerate. And I just, I've got to catch myself. I've been six years sober now. There you go. There you go.

That's great. I got to make sure. I got to clear the room here. I don't want people to be like, damn, they got a degenerate. I'll take the degenerate title. I'm not sober yet. So six years. No, Tate was about to ask you where you're going tonight.

Oh, yeah. Hey, what's the move? Quitter. Quitter. West Virginia nights. I was like, I don't know if he's the right person to go to a bar with. but it's Tuesday night come on

8 a.m. somewhere. I don't like quitters. I've been in a touring metal band for 20 years. You've seen it all. All right, cool. You're not the only guy. You're not the only one knife. You're a pussy.

I just go to Cracker Barrel, so that's pretty much my that's pretty me. I'm in the rocking chair. They actually based the logo of Cracker Barrel off of me because I'm just the guy who's out there with the barrel. Hashtag Real Cracker. Hashtag real cracker.

But no, folks, we've got to get into this because we, so we mentioned this story yesterday. It had come up and, you know, I think over the last 24 hours, it's absolutely just taken over the internet and a huge firestorm. Trump says the U.S. would accept 600,000 Chinese students sparking uproar among some conservatives. They talk about rep Marjorie Taylor Green. This is NBC article, conservative influencer, Laura Lumer, blasting the idea. by the way, they keep putting out that, you know, NBC's got this picture up of President Trump and they're talking about the Chinese students. Of course, this is the president of South Korea. It is not the president of China in the picture. Now, of course, now, to be fair, to be fair,

they're doing that because that's the meeting he was in when he made the comments. But at the same time, like, if I was at human events or post-millennial, if I were doing graphics, I'd probably say, I just, I feel like it doesn't make sense to include him in this picture because the story's not about him. I can understand the mistake. Oh, no, no. Don't say it. But then, wait, but wait, wait, plot twist. Wait, plot twist. The, the author is Kimmy Yam. Oh, wow. So sounds like an Asian author. So plot twist, you know, maybe we're cool. Maybe we're cool. Inside job, exactly. Didn't the president of South Korea float the idea of Trump Hotel in North Korea today? he mentioned it yeah in the meeting he mentions it and he says i hope we have the idea i hope well so

this new party of of south korea is a very pro unification party and they're there have been accused of a lot of ties to the cp so they have a totally different line on north korea than they then the other party which is much more conservative much more combative much more anti-cp anti-communist And so there's, you know, that's one of the things, he's saying, well, you know, we want denuclearization, but we also want the Trump Tower and we want this and we want that and unification. And wouldn't it be great if Beijing, wait, wait, what? What did you say? You know, so he'd probably be totally cool with the Chinese students. But let's get into this because this is what I asked. And I was checking this. So 600,000 Chinese student visas. I'm against that for sure. I don't, I don't think we need this. And we talked about this last night. But, you know, it's, it's, it's, they pay full freight. This is a huge cash cow for the universities. So just right off, it's bad. If it helps the universities,

it's not something that I want. 100% it's a money thing. I mean, and this comes on the heels of that student that was giving away secrets, correct? Right, so I was just going to mention that. So that happens on the same day. But I wanted to get into it and just let's put the scope of this real quick here. What is the current number of Chinese students?

So the current number is just under 300,000. So it's about 300,000 that are here. this is a doubling of the Chinese student population in the United States or would be a doubling, which is also, by the way, there's so many Republicans that have been fighting against this. Marco Rubio has talked about this, the Secretary of State, so many other policymakers. Now, what's interesting is the White House has not responded to comments on this. And so, look, you know, there's been a lot of times where President Trump has said something specifically regarding visas in one of these meetings. where it doesn't really turn into policy from the White House. I'm wondering if this is going to be one of those conversations, one of those times,

but we still have to talk about it. So, yeah, Nina, you were mentioning the other side of it where there was a guy who was a kid who was just, I believe, charged, right? He was charged. So he's actually been charged today down in Texas for attempting to steal research funded by the U.S. government and taking it back to his native China. Is this the first time this has happened, Neel? Look, I come from the border, right?

I'm from El Paso, Texas. I'm watching people get kicked out of their homes, abuelos, grandfathers that have families here, that have, you know, kids and then that are Americanized that speak only English, and then they have grandkids that speak only English, and they're getting ready to deport the grandpa. You know, and then you're going to let in 600,000 Chinese students.

That's just so hypocritical. To me, I just see, from an ethical standpoint, point, I see something completely wrong with this, especially they're the ones giving out the secrets, you know what I mean? I mean, what's the abuelo doing in El Paso? You know, that's just trying to live his life. I mean, I think there's, we've got to come to a middle range here to where we can, we can argue the point of certain people staying, like a grandfather who's here, who's been here for 30-something years. And look, I see you shake your head and I with it. But when you come to this, when you bring this up, you know that 600,000,

Chinese and I mean from a humanitarian point of view I'm just I'm just saying I'm I'm with you on this the Chinese that the Chinese are actual adversary so allowing 600,000 Chinese nationals into the United States is a terrible I'm saying I'm against it yeah yeah I'm against it yeah I'm against it totally against it but I'm saying like what do you tell the grandfather we can't allow them in but what are you telling the abuelo who's sitting at home with his kids and grandkids you got to go back to back he's been here 30 years He's done nothing wrong. Did he come in here illegally?

Correct. Well, that's the wrong thing that he did. I get it. And on paper, these guys would be illegal. And dude, I'm with you on that. I'm just saying, how do you argue that? Well, that's how I'd argue it. I mean, for the...

I wouldn't be making the argument because I would never accept... ...the nationals. Dude, I'm on your side, just letting you guys know. It's cool, I mean, I've got to say it. In that case, why not both? Right. That's what I'm saying. They both go home.

Yeah. How about go home? Or in Chinese, Hui, I'm a little bit ambivalent on the issue, and I want to steal men Trump's case here. He did actually have more recent comments on this, where he said, I told President Xi that we're honored to have his students here. And now with that, we'll check them. We'll be very careful to see who it is on the concerns of them potentially being spies or stealing information. So it's a couple of things at hand here that we should explore further.

You mentioned it, again, the universities. These foreign students pay full tuition. which is usually roughly at least double what, like, somebody who's in state would pay for a lot of these schools and a lot of these. So we actually have in the article, I've got a number for you, just to add to the steel man, I guess. Chinese students contributed in 2023. So is it, what's the source for this, though? NBC is claiming it, but there's no source. So NBC claims there's no source, but they're claiming that the Chinese students contributed $14 billion to the U.S. economy.

but I'd like to know where that comes from. So whatever they contribute to tuition is one thing. Then there's like the total economic picture of what else they contribute here because when these people are here is, you know, they need to shop, they need to eat food, they need to buy things. And that's what they do. So they contribute to the economy. So there's like that monetary value.

It's a huge subsidy to these colleges. I went to the university at Buffalo. It felt like half the college were these Chinese and Indian students. But without them, these colleges wouldn't be able to survive. there's something to say about the soft power aspect of this while I think we have something like tens of thousands. This is what Secretary Lutniks has been arguing. Yeah, that there's a cultural aspect to this. Most people don't want to go to, there is some people who shop around schools all around planet Earth, but the best schools generally that foreign students want to go

to our schools in the United States and the cultural impact of some of your best and brightest from foreign countries coming here, ingratiating yourself with American values and then taking that home. I think there's something to say about that soft power. President Xi's daughter, famously, I believe, went to Harvard for X amount of years, and the influence there could be untold. So I think we should also think of this in terms of the trade deficit that we have with China. This is essentially a trade item that could help balance that trade imbalance as well, and I think that's why they're going for a doubling. So while you do have concerns about the security aspect, I think these are rich Chinese people coming here with fat wallets, and I think these are probably the most western of Chinese people to begin with, who would even consider coming here.

I know you spent some time in China yourself. About two years, yeah. You know, what do you think about Trump using this as kind of in the aspect of trade, not too concerned using this as a tool to kind of try to leverage with President Xi? I think that it would, in a vacuum, you know, maybe, I would say, you know, that's a good point. But, you know, in the past 20, 30 years since the globalist project has been set up, our relationship with China has been absolutely toxic for this country. And it's, it is deprived.

so many people of their jobs in terms of the manufacturing that's been outsourced at the blue collar level and what we're talking about here is depriving people of a pathway to a better life if you would have had the ability to make it into one of these schools but you're some kid from the Midwest and so you're applying maybe for scholarships

or whatever it is and you can't get one because they want that spot to go to some scion of the CCP elite that is able to pay full freight so they're going to come in and by the you know to your point about the CCP's, you know, sending their kids here, Zhang Zemin's grandson went to UPenn like 20 years ago. And so this, you know, this has been going on for quite some time.

We haven't seen any shift in the CCP. And if anything, they've become more authoritarian. In Zhang Zemin, Hujintal, we're more technocratic, whereas Xi Jinping is much more authoritarian and certainly has been since he's taken power in 2012 and has remained and perhaps will be the Chinese, you know, the chairman of the party until long after we're all dead, because he's going to be keeping himself immortal with Chinese power.

And so, if anything, we've become more like China since this globalist relationship has begun. And so, you know, when I look at something like this, again, I still say, what is best for the American people first? See, that's what I have a problem with. I mean, the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab has said that the model for the world is China, the CCP China. So here we are letting in 600,000 of them.

I just, I, I, I'm sorry, I just, I see a lot of things wrong with it, and I think it's very hypocritical. And I, and I'm, you know, I'm, I'm a Trump supporter all the way. People don't get it wrong. I am, but I'm going to call things out when I see, when I don't agree with it, just like everyone here, I'm pretty sure everyone agrees with me on this, on this one, right? And all I was saying was about the Mexican grandpa at home who's done nothing wrong, then, you know, doing it for some and not all of them, you know what I mean? You can't just pick and choose to me. I mean, I, it's just such a very, don't, listen, hold on. I do agree that you got to come here legally, no doubt about it.

But, I mean, if we're really going to look at the real numbers, we're looking at what, 30, 40 million illegals here in America? So, funny enough, Alad and I both interviewed the ICE director today, and you asked him, you asked him about that number as well, right? He couldn't even give us a solid number on how many are here. I asked him, how many have they detained and deported so far? and what are their goals? I don't think anybody in the Trump cabinet's

trying to get ahead of Trump himself, though, and they don't want to have those numbers held against them. So I don't think they're trying to be firm. Can I say something I've noticed? But you'd think that as I imagine, though, as ICE, they probably, you know, have a number, right? Obviously, they know how many have been deported, but I think there's probably a number that they have

that's sort of a working operational number, but, you know, for reasons like that and also legal reasons, they're probably not putting it out publicly, but I think they do have enough. And it's probably around 30 minutes. I will tell you though, that they are striking fear into them because they're not moving around like they should.

When I go to the airports from El Paso to San Antonio, where I'm flying, it used to be packed to the gills. And now, dude, there's like 80 to 100 seats open and flights are like, they're cutting down the flights now. They're not flying. Yeah, they're not moving. They're like in a frozen

state right now. So, but the word is on the street, you know, in El Paso, everyone's like, they're just going to wait it out till Trump is gone. They're pretty confident that, yeah, that's really what they're saying. Dude, my homie's nanny, they don't let her go to the park because they're scared she's going to go. To your point, that's why, like, my opinion is the United, the federal government or not,

well, the federal government should come down on people that employ illegals really hard and people that rent housing to illegals. A hundred percent. Because if you, if they're, if their option or their decision is to just hunker down, that's what they're doing. They're not going to leave. So the next thing, because I don't, I've said this a bunch of times, I don't want to see ice agents kicking in people's doors because, first of all, it's bad for, it's bad for just optics, right? Like, nobody wants to see grandma or grandpa getting drug out of their bed by dudes in body armored.

That's just not something that anyone wants to see on the internet. It upsets Karen. Karen gets all mad. Especially she's at Home Depot or she's at Walmart. She gets up in people's faces. Then you have to put Karen in FlexCub. and then that's a whole disaster so you don't want to do that to anybody at all

so make it hard for them to stay so that way you don't have to have police interactions with them well that's the real ID right I mean that's the first part of this right the real ID I would imagine I mean maybe but like that's why like I said I want to see people that are actually getting losing their businesses if they're hiring

people and losing property just to answer his point that I've had it told to me because when real ID was coming around and the Trump administration has sort of been, you know, they didn't come up with the, it's been on the books for, you know, a long time, years. But they are sort of administering this rollout. And I asked around and, you know, sort of on background, you know, what's the deal? Like this, this thing is kind of unpopular. Why are we,

you know, why are we still doing it? And that was sort of the response that I had was, you know, they do think it's something where, look, if you're an illegal, there's no way you're walking in and you have to present all those documents to get a basic ID, to get on planes, to go to go. You'll be taken down right there and you're out yeah so they know they can't get them so again it's part of that idea of ratcheting things up but nobody's self-deport you know he's giving that option like well if you self-deport they're not going to do that what do you think about what do you think about this um this thought that people are saying uh you know some kind of stipend to self-deport so like they're not they're telling you right now i'm in old past so i know what i'm in old past

so i know what i'm hearing nobody's self-deporting nobody's take i don't see anybody they take money they're not going to take no because it took so long to get here and they're just going to wait it out. They really believe Trump is going to be gone. Like they believe everyone's going to be fed up with them. You got Gavin Newsom running his mouth, Beto O'Rourke. I mean, they're like the cheerleaders amping these people up. It's so wrong.

It's a humanitarian crisis, all this stuff. They're going to wait it out. They're going to wait it out. And I don't see anything happening in El Paso that's any different. I know that there've been some tunnels here and there that have been intercepted and stuff like that. But really, from everyone that I know of, everyone's waiting it out. Don't you think if they just crank up taxes on remittances that would force a lot of return? But these people, I mean, they're living just under the radar, bro, just scraping by, and they're going to stay here and just hunker down.

Yeah, so I'm just curious is what would be the incentive for them to stay if remittances or taxes on remittances are sky high. Maybe they could do a workaround with just using cash. You could use cryptocurrencies. But it's still better here. Crypto cash. It's still better here than where they came from. Where they came from, there's murder, there's crime, violent crime. families are getting killed

and gang problems still out of control third world problems or third world problems you know like coming here it's still better even if they have to be homeless so that's their argument they don't want to go back to that it's a terrible life it's a terrible life so we've got to think of some other ways

to ratchet you got to heat the fraud you got to heat the pot so that the frog jumps out yeah that's why you have to make it illegal to rent to them so they can't find homes I agree. Make it, make it illegal. Well, not make it illegal, but punish the people that rent to them and punish the people that give the... Punish the landlords.

Yeah, punish the people that employ them as well. You know, that's the only way. And this is something that I've talked about this a bunch of times, but this is something that Democrats say all the time, oh, well, how come you don't go after the business owners? How come you don't go after blah, blah, blah, yeah, go after them. Everything. I believe in all options. I'm with you.

I'm with you. So, Phil, this is something that I did actually ask to the ICE director earlier today. We're going to be releasing this a little while, but sorry, you can. could see the whole thing on human events daily, but I am going to mention what he said. I said, you know, I've noticed the way they're targeting some of these raids, it seems that when the businesses are getting raided, it seems like you guys are actually going after the business owners even more than just the workers. Yeah. And like, yeah, maybe some of the workers will get rolled up, but I said, are you targeting immigration fraud? And they said, absolutely. He said, he confirmed,

I was surprised that he confirmed that because I haven't seen any, you know, operational statement out there saying that they're, you know, making that the priority for ICE enforcement. But he said we're absolutely looking at for these flagrant, you know, and it could be a supermarket, it could be a slaughterhouse, whatever it might be, that it's, they know the places, right? They know the places that are doing the hiring. They know the places that are putting out the fake IDs, the stolen social security numbers, this idea, oh, they don't access benefits. Cut the crap. Like, we know they're accessing benefits. It's not hard to get a fake social security number. And then to your point, right, then their kids who, if they're born here, they get to go to school, they get to access all that.

So they sort of have the indirect access to the welfare net that we had the broader social safety net that we have in this country. And so it's a total joke, which I think ABC was saying it the other day, that they're so upset that illegal aliens are having their kids are being worried about pulled out of school. I said, wait a minute. So you admit that they're accessing public benefits, even though you all times. I will say that I've noticed the schools have less kids, man. Like when I'm going through the certain streets to get to my house,

this one, it used to get flooded with kids. And now it's like this, like nothing. Like hardly any kids coming out of the school now. So I know, dude, just watching this, like, take place. Have you done any content down there? Have you, like, on around and filming and stuff? I went down to the border to show what a joke it is before the, before Trump really took it. Well, I mean since since Trump has come back.

Yeah, I went down to the border. I was going to show the razor that was there that Biden put in, the cheap razor that was there and it was a joke. And I showed up, and man, military guys came out immediately, like, within two minutes and put guns to me. And I was like, yo. Wow. I was like, this is good. Good. You all passed? I was just checking.

And you did that recently? Yeah. Yeah, this was about three months ago. Okay. About three months ago. And I got there and they were like, yeah, man, you can't be here, this and that. And I'm like, I'm out. I'm a Trump supporter. I'm a Trump supporter. I'm out. Operational control of the border. And you know what? There was a dude in a camouflage.

tent. I mean, they were all sitting out there, and I didn't even see the guy. And so they got me. And I was going that way. And I was going that way. Yeah, you're on the USAID. They got me real quick, and they were asking me all kinds of questions. Like, yo, I was like, man, I was just doing content for Instagram and I'm out, guys, all good. You all passed. You all passed. And was that now how close to town was that? That was, you know, where Paisano is. You know, exactly, we're the kind of where we build the wall of that area, kind of. Like down past that? Yeah, just right off Paisano. the street Pisano. That used to be the most dangerous stretch of freeway in America.

I remember them saying that when I was there, yeah. It was bad. They used to, they used to, so before the wall was there, they used to go put rocks or two by fours and nails and cars would hit them, pop, pop, pop, pop. And then the kids from the other side would run, do a carjacking, kill people. I mean, it was brutal. So they were doing car jack. They were coming from Mexico doing the car jacking. And they would rob the trains. So they drive the car back or just like get the, they would just get the crap out of the car and shoot somebody and run back. And it was that easy. It happened all the time. Absolutely insane.

Anything else you guys want to add about the Chinese students or is there anyone who want to make, I mean, a lot gave the best steel man. But when it comes to it, look, you know, people will say, you know, oh, MAGA is always in lockstep with Trump. But I just don't think that's the case. I think you can point to issue after issue where that hasn't been shown. I think this is indicative of a larger anti-immigrants, both legal and illegal trend that we're seeing on the right.

and then both in the elements of moderates, independence, and the left as well. I mean, we talked about the reason, though, right? So the idea that they're bringing people into the country so that way they can count them in the census, these people tend to, you know, concentrate in urban areas. That means that you're more than likely going to have the urban areas get more people in the census. That means more representatives in Congress, most likely Democrat representatives. This is the reason why I don't want immigrants is because it's taking voting power away from the American people. It has nothing to do with who they are.

Now, when it comes to the Chinese, I think that they're a threat because I know that China is an adversary of the United States. I don't have the false notion that they're like just a rival or we're going to work together on something. China doesn't look at the United States that way and the United States cannot look at China that way because China doesn't look at us that way. So the thing that I don't want, I want to see is no Chinese students coming in unless they're, and actually no, not at all, like none, because they're a national security threat, you know? I think we do need to make a distinction between the CCP and the regular Chinese person. There is no distinction. I think there is. China can call on people and say, look, you do this.

And if you don't, we're going to put your family in shape. You don't think there are Chinese nationals who hate the Chinese government? They don't, I don't think that it matters. Because they'll go after their family in China. Well, no, and certainly, by the way, there's obviously a distinction, but when we're talking about a lot of these colleges that are Ivy League, you do have to have the money to be able to afford this. So typically you are getting elites. And you have to be a member of the CCP, you know, or you have the family that are members of the CCP. And the fact, like I said, it doesn't matter what the individual thinks.

It doesn't matter because if they have family back home that they love in China, then that's where they apply the pressure. Xi Jinping has no problem doing that. He will put his thumb on your grandma if you don't listen. He'll put his thumb on your brother, your mom, whatever, if you don't, you know. I think he'll lock you in your home. It's 100% a national security threat. I don't think that they need to have these students here on visas, although you could argue the most important place to have them would be in the universities. But if they want, they could, if you want to have a sophisticated Chinese spy from the CCP, you could come into the country illegally.

I'm sure they'd be, it would be very easy for them to. get fake documents or pretend they're another Chinese person. You've heard stories about them coming in through, coming across the Darien Gap and sure. Well, that's why I'm kind of arguing that them coming here on student visas wouldn't be the biggest threat. If they wanted to come in as spies, they could do so through the southern border and then infiltrate with with their identity. But when you're when you're talking about stealing research, this, this is a, I mean, it's it's, it's, it's all about placement and access. So when you're talking about spycraft. So if you're, if your,

your P&A is already at, you know, MIT or one of these research lab, I mean, these universities are where the research is happening, and in many cases, of course, being done with government funding or perhaps on proprietary, you know, any kind of technology. Obviously, we've talked a lot about the biotech transfer between the U.S. and China. So it's clearly part of a toxic relationship that we have with China, and that's why I'm against it. Well, they get busted in Germany and the UK and France for this all the time, too. This is a problem in universities across the world. And the embassy or the consulate will put pressure on the students because what they'll do

is here's how it works. They'll track you, right? They'll track the students. And then they'll figure out, okay, what students do we have in? What classes are they in? What major are they in? And then they'll line that up with whatever their Ministry of State Security priorities are. So your priority intelligence requirements are PIRs that we would have in the in the IC in the U.S. They've got theirs as well. And so suddenly someone who's in the Science and Technology Department says, hey, you've got this guy and he's making his way. towards here, have him go for those files. So it's not like someone

is a spy from the start. It's more like they're already here than we find out, hey, they've got access to something we want. Now we apply the pressure. Yeah, they're just their property of the CCP, regardless. You know, whether they... But I'm a little confused on something. Is this something he just fleetingly said? Or is this something

that he actually held a conference with and said, well, I'm going to do this? He's repeated it multiple times. He's been asked about it in the past and said that he doesn't want to get rid of the three. 300,000. He's always used strong rhetoric against that, against expelling them. I also think this is worth mentioning that if you zoom out for a second, geopolitically, what this really speaks to is a failure in diplomacy. This is one of the like, not last, but it's going down the path

of a failing diplomacy with China. If we're thinking that we need to not have these students be here, obviously the Trump administration thinks differently. I think that when it comes down to it, It's, I just go back to, and to your point about the failure of diplomacy, the average person looks at it as a completely unbalanced relationship that we have with China. So it's this huge inverse or it seems that they get all of the gain and what do we get like cheap TVs and trinkets and bottles and things. And it's just something that ultimately we can see that China is getting fat and happy off of this relationship.

And by the way, prior to the tariffs, which have been largely successful. And the Chinese have eaten that, by the way, that the, you know, you could say, what are we really gaining in terms of wealth in this country? And so, you know, Josh Diamond had thrown something out earlier and said, you know, hey, why not if we're going to do this? Let's let's tariff the students. Let's tariff the students. 200%. I said, you know what, double it 400%. They're already paying full tuition compared to nobody else is playing full tuition. Right. But that money goes directly to the college. Sure. I mean, we end up subsidizing these colleges too. So. it's an additional subsidization for the college. So I guess the idea being why not have something that actually benefits the country directly. Well, it's keeping them afloat would be the argument like a certain, I think I've read like 15% of these colleges wouldn't be able to thrive without them. But I don't have a lot of things. I don't mind if a lot of, I'm not going to get a lot of defense for a lot of the colleges in this country. Well, my alma mater, the University at Buffalo, would probably fail if they didn't have all these foreign students. One last tidbit

that I wanted to add here, though, is that I think this is a really easy thing for nationalists on both sides to fearmonger on, and I'm guilty of that myself. If I was a Chinese nationalist, I'd say, no, I don't want to send our best and brightest over to the United States to become useful idiots and Chinese spies for the United States. Oh, we're going to send them there four years. They're going to get brainwashed into all this bullshit liberal ideology. They're going to start believing trans and gay bullshit, and they're going to come bring that back here because that's what they're learning over there. So I feel like it's easy to fear. monger in that way. Like, um, because in China, they're like, oh, this is, uh, we went through the

century of humiliation and now you're going to continue supporting those, those Western dogs who oppressed us for, for all these centuries. And, and you're going to support them economically. That's where you're going to go spend all your money and you're, you're paying top dollar to go to these schools. So I think both sides, uh, have an argument to, to fearmong around here. Having a more exchange is known to, I mean, again, if in, in a vacuum, I think that I get, I get what you're saying that, you know, an exchange is good. I'd love to get to that point in the relationship at some point. I just don't think we're there.

I just really don't think we're there. I think we're in a point where it's a total. It's like, it's like we, we, you know, it's like the United States is, is, is like your buddy who's in a toxic relationship with this girl and he's totally just, just simping all of her, the codependent relationship, totally simping out. And we're like, dude, she treats you like crap. She's always taking your stuff. She doesn't let you do what you want.

look what's happened to your life I have a few friends like that exactly right it begs the question and they just won't listen what do you think the president's thinking here is then if not saying he doesn't want to cancel these visas he wants to double it

what is the president thinking here he wants a good relationship with gee yeah he's negotiating he's all about the deal right let's make a deal I always kind of say this whenever he's in deal making mode I do think that he'll throw out things like this

that and and people can say like oh here's Posobic he's doing his paid thing No, no, no, no, no, like, seriously. I think he does throw out things when he's in negotiating mode. And obviously, we know he's working on various trade deals with China. The tariffs have been a huge piece of this as well. So I would kind of chalk it up to sort of the Trump negotiations. I think it's important how he said this.

I didn't see the video on this. I don't know if he just said it fleetingly. Like, I could entertain that. Or was he like, no, we're going to do this. Like, this is something I want to do. So it all depends on how he stated this, I think. If he was just kind of like, yeah, that's interesting. I think I might think about doing something. I think public opinion is generally against it.

I have problem against it 100%. We saw the AP last week that we have 55 million visa holders and then they see, oh, 600,000 more. Right, right. You're just like, I don't care if they're donating me a million dollars. Well, that's pretty nice, but it's like we're keeping the universities afloat. It's like, we got 55 million to get out. What's 600? Maybe this is a backdoor way to drain China. They're already in a population crash. We're taking an extra half a million of their youngest. Australia can We're not, I don't, I just project the idea that we're taking them. Like, bringing them here does not mean they become American. We're going to indoctrinate them.

No, we're not. It just doesn't have that. They do that on their own. Show me the example of that, though. That's not what happened. You know that there's a ton of Chinese dissidents in the United States. They have a ton of these different groups that exist. But they typically go back.

They typically go back and they work from China and they get, and they're so focused on money. And so there's like Tibetan refugees. There's Fallen Gong refugees that come here. there's people from Hong Kong also come here and I think these are not going to NYU they do go to these colleges and I've seen them protest on these colleges before I've seen three Hong Kong protesters but it's nowhere near the majority well yeah they're also not allowed to to protest at all in China so they're coming from a background and culture that you know struggles to express themselves or or vote or participate politically I just I think Trump has something up his sleeve here and we

should let the guy cook we should let Trump cook here guys let's not freak out so this This is the argument, though, that was made about opening up to China from the 1980s. And this, you know, the Margaret, this is something I've always been critical of Margaret Thatcher and her government in the handover of Hong Kong, because it kept being this, this refrain over and over that the more we, the more exposure that we have to China, the West has to China, the more democratic they will become. And they will have protest groups. And you can go back 40 years. And this is, they were saying the exact same thing. and what have we seen? Hong Kong, almost 50 years of the special, you know, two system, one government, two systems.

And Xi Jinping just threw that out the window completely. Then it's been a total crackdown. China hasn't become more democratic. You know, if anything, we have become less, far, far less. And I would argue that our exposure. And I would see this when I was over there, you know, briefly was at the Shanghai American Chamber of Commerce and then also worked for another firm doing business there. and, you know, try to help American businesses come into the Chinese market. And what you would see, though, was that American business leaders and American politicians

would come over, and they'd see the CCP system. And this gets to what you're saying, about the China model. And they would say, oh, this is great. So if I want a maglev, if I want a high-speed rail, like we had one in Shanghai, they have one that kind of goes from the airport almost to downtown, and they just build it. And they say, well, what about the people who live in the way? What about them? You just get rid of them.

You tear down those neighborhoods. You just blast them out, and then they can go wherever. And so to your point, right, in a system where there is no political, you know, real participation, if there is a system where they don't have any rights to be able to defend their homes, that it becomes intoxicating for Western leaders to see that system and say, how can we get some of that as well? Yeah, but this is going to give the illegal immigrants a lot of ammunition if he does this, man, for them to protest and fight back.

and feel righteous and whether they're wanting to stay here. I mean, we have to go and they can come. No, no. I'm just saying it's going to give them a lot of. That's what they're going to say. They're going to say, what the hell is this? It's going to look very hypocritical.

It's going to look bad on Trump. We already have other legal immigrants that come on through different visas. Hey, if we can radicalize Latin America on China being a geopolitical adversary, I mean, that's a win-win. It's a wedge issue, right? I do want to, I do want to keep it, want to be cogniz of the clock. And so I want to get into this, the psycho-su story. So we talked about this in the third hour yesterday, in the members hour. But, you know, I was thinking that you probably had some takes on this, you know,

given that you come from a fight background. I mean, look, you know, it's like they say you talked. And now, pro wrestling is obviously very different from what you did. Pro wrestling is fake, okay? It's scripted. It's scripted. But, yeah, okay, it's scripted. But I mean, like, when I was in the dressing room, getting ready to fight,

nobody told me who was going to win. Right, right. or to kill each other. This, he was not expecting that beat down. It was premeditated. There was a video of Jackson's son, Rampage Jackson's son talking about, I'm going to, have you seen the video where he's talking, I'm going to go up there and hit this guy, man, I'm going to tag this guy.

He's saying all these, all these things. It was premeditated. He was not going along with any kind of script. He wasn't going to fake drop him and then fake slap him. If you see the punches land on this guy's cranium, these are intentionally, he was, to kill that guy dude like that was like five six we're now up to five hundred fifteen thousand dollars so three thousand dollars extra just since we we mentioned it a couple of minutes ago i i think that's a murder charge bro honestly attempted murder i i i just i'm

so so so walk us through especially premeditated walk us through if if someone's in that situation you know you've been boxing out there's there's no boxing gloves on in this so gloves are off literally this he's down he's bashing you in the head what what What happened in that situation physically? Well, he went red, right? He went totally red. He lost his mind. He was whatever, there was a, something happened before that where he smashed a camera and said he apologized.

They became friends again. They were talking. And it was a prop. It was like a prop. Right. It was like an act. It was an act. It was a planned act.

Yeah. This guy took it so personal and it hurt his ego so bad that fragile ego he has that he went after him and what he did was uncalled for him. And then, plus the guy wasn't expecting it. You can go over. I've seen this happen, you've probably seen it happen to where guys go up to other guys and it's called stealing their soul or snatching their soul, where you go up to a guy in a club and bam, whack him, knock him out, he's out snoring, and you just disappear into the crowd.

That happened all the time. He kind of did that to this guy. The guy was not expecting this. He got picked up, slammed, and then when he's there pretending to be like he's out, then he starts getting punches delivered to his face. That's uncalled for it. It was premeditated, and there's proof that it was premeditated by him talking about it on the phone to whoever he was talking to.

someone was recording him say all this so to me how is this could be like an attempted murder charge that kind of damage what do you say it's attempted murder is it how likely is it that he could have died oh so easy it's just a hair man like I mean

I'm surprised he didn't with those the blows he took to the head honestly I've seen guys die and sparring get hit wrong and bat they're out ambulance comes or gone I've seen it happened in the gym and those are with 16 ounce gloves sometimes 18 ounce any of they're heavy weight's given. But I mean, I've seen that happen. When I knocked out Owen Beck, he was out for

like almost 30 minutes when I knocked him out with the left hook. And he was bleeding out of his eyes and his ears. And I thought I took a knee. The crowd got silent. I was scared to death. And I think that also affected my career, to be quite honest. But that was intentional. What he did was intentional. He went in there and he dropped that guy on his head and it looked like he tried to kill him now. To me, he's using his training. Yes. Yes. And the guy was not expecting that. So I got to call what it is and I think everyone has seen it we and it looks like he's trying to kill the man um just because it's with your fists but that's still doing a lot of damage now here's by the way we're up to 116,500 I just refreshed in it so people so donations are pouring in this is awesome I love this so is he

so um no I thought they said he was awake is he awake okay my bad I thought they said let me I'm just scrolling down sometimes they put updates on here I mean we can we can find out what we can he is by the way he's a veteran of the united states army and this is crazy so he was using wrestling as an outlet to deal with his PTSD now one thing that i want to say no i mentioned this yesterday on the third hour was that there was an affiliation between this independent promotion and the wwee so this is a situation i got to say they could potentially be looking out a lawsuit a huge lawsuit from psycho stew here if he wanted to pursue that route

because, you know, I'm sure you got to sign waivers, I'm going to... So, like, when you were boxing, did you ever have to sign waiver with the promoter before they put it on and say, hey, and half the contracts I signed, I didn't even know what was it? Yeah. I don't wonder I got screwed.

But, I mean, no, I mean, it was... There was times that weigh-ins, honestly, that I remember the tension was so bad. All of a sudden, we just started throwing punches. Like, you just, you can't predict it. It just happens, you know? But I never looked at a... guy and I was like premeditating like I'm gonna just go up and just you know sometimes you're

you're staring at each other and then they can't part you and the next thing you know you're like well we got to take this to the next level because I'm not backing down you're not backing down it's on and then we just start fighting that happens it's just the nature of the beast it's the nature of the sport it's just what it is but what I saw and that video is premeditated he did it without the guy knowing the guy didn't know that he was going to come get slant maybe he knew so what you're saying is what you're saying it's not like one of those way in situations no tension raises up because he was planning to do that before he got right it was premeditated the guy was unsuspected he had his back turned to him he probably knew he was gonna okay he's gonna come

in in the ring pick me up slam me and then you know whatever he trusted in him he actually had whatever the right so he had a trust factor in that kid like okay i know he's probably going to come pick me up slam me and then you know whatever move we decided to do that he does a body slam it right and then we're going to script whatever happens after that but he didn't bam bam bam and started going to town on the guy. Come on, man. I mean, that's coward. To me, that means coward.

I don't know. I don't know how you all look at it, but to me, that's a coward move. It was a lot of, if I understand correctly, there was a lot of people in his chat after the initial bit, I think. Yeah, this is what we were talking about last night, right? They were calling him names, saying that he was, you know,

calling him all kinds of names and basically. Rappage Jaks. No, no, Rajas. Yeah, Raj. So because he's a big kick streamer, and they were saying last night that that's what Andrew Wilson was here last night and what he was saying was that

I feel like Tim all of a sudden here because I'm explaining drama that, don't wait Tim, I got you, buddy. That his chat was egging him on to do it because they're saying how you're going to let him punk you like that? How are you going to let him get you like that? You got got got.

You know, he smashed that beer into your head. You're just going to let him do that. How old is he? And he's 20s? Yeah, he's super young. Yeah, I was saying he's 20. 20s, something like that. You're in your 20s, Pete. Yeah, it's even younger than me.

So he's like 20, 21, maybe, 22. Is he? I don't know. I'm just going to see. 25, yeah. You know, to me, it's still a kid. Ah, Tate's like he's super young. He's older than me. I also feel like Twitch streamers, kick streamers, this is just the concentration of the world's lowest impulse control. Like, every single person on there is just like a ticking time bomb.

So it's actually kind of a miracle we don't see stuff. Someone in the chat here was saying I was one of the people on his chat. No. I don't think he was charged When you had more respect Not yet, not yet But wouldn't you have more respect from it? I believe they said,

I believe they said under investigation Where did this, Phil, where did this happen again? I'm not sure where it happened. Was it, was it, was it, was it, was it, was it, was it, was it? Noxville, but it was the Knoxville. That'd be crazy, it was Knox County with Glenn Jacobs. But I would have more respect for the kid if you would have challenged him,

grab the mic and said, let's go right now, me and you, and then, mano imano, then go, then okay, but maybe, maybe that's kind of the whole point of it right right but like he did it so unsuspected then what this is LAPD yeah so I'm no tough guy what was that one that yeah it was in it is in L.A. I'm no tough guy obviously but there's no honor here in cheap shotting someone I think if you're a man about it or I don't know if there's some sort of fighter's honor of like let's actually fight a code you're not trying to hit people when they're unconscious I don't think so I mean all of his hits were dirty as far as

I'm concerned. 100%. And I don't really know what else to say. I hope he gets charged. There's the I saw a rampage's response and considering Raj's his kid, he actually had a really good response. Like he's like, I'm not going to condemn my kid, but he was

dead, but like, you know, I would have. I love him and I well he was, he was like, he's definitely wrong in doing it. So he was clear about that. But it was, you know, I mean, you know, you're a father. You don't want to sit there. Yeah, you're not going to get on the internet. You're not going to get on the internet and beat up on your kid. It depends what you mean by condemn, right? If that, if that were my son, I would have walked him down to the police station and said, you need to, you need to face for what you did.

I agree. 100%. That's, that's, that's as a father, right, is you have to own up to your mistakes. So if you, if you did something, right? Number one, obviously you owe an apology, but number two, you still owe, you have to pay a debt. So a debt must be paid here, whether it's to society, whether that's to the man directly. I feel like Rampage needs to give him a good old That's, oh yeah Good old last weapon Yeah He's to give him to Adrian Peterson treatment with the switch I would I would take my kid to the woodshed

You know You know Maybe maybe maybe you know Metaphysically over over something Not like that But no way No it's that's something where And by the way I wouldn't be tweeting about it

You know Like if something like this had happened I mean God forbid But you I mean I got to say You know, it just, it feels to me like this is something that it does feel like bad parenting. It does feel like bad parenting. To underscore, I think, a part of this that we didn't address. Well, the biggest issue I think at hand here was his ego control.

He couldn't control his ego. He feel like someone had one up on him. Someone had embarrassed him. And he needed to get revenge. He wasn't able to swallow his pride. And I think that could be a lesson for other people to check your ego. And, you know, having your ego all wound up could get you in some deep shit. You'd think that he understood that he's in the wrestling world.

Right. This is a job. Yeah. Like, that's what I mean. Like, the bit was a job. It was supposed to be. I'm not going to get God anymore. No,

he's going to instigated that. The kids on social media, hegging him on. So he was probably looking at all these comments going, oh, man, I got to do something. I can't go down. Which is ridiculous because you're supposed to know what was going on. Like he,

you're supposed to go into that scenario, understanding how it goes. This is a, he was a work, and that's a wrestling term I'm using, it was a work, he was supposed to take the hit, then he was going to get him back in the ring, he would knock the guy down, and then those hits

aren't supposed to be actually real, but he went, you know, it was real. If he's the one, because, you know, when you look at it, Psycho Stu, in the angle, right, in the narrative, he's the one that kind of cold cox him with the beer outside, so it's almost like he was the one taking the cheap shot,

so I don't know exactly what he was. That was part of the work. Right, that's part of the But what I'm saying is, if he was the one doing that, then it would have been setting up Raja to kind of be the baby face, right? To setting him up a good guy in that where he's the heel, so he's the villain, and then Raja is going to defeat the villain in the ring. Correct. What we're trying to accomplish here.

But he took it massive personally and went out there for a vendetta and just tried to kill the man. Right. And I do believe he needs to be punished by the law for this. I really do. I don't see how you walk from this. By the way, I think stuff like this happens every day, every week, on a smaller scale in dumb bar fights and people fighting outside of convenience stores and people shooting each other because one person passes him by, steps on his shoes, calls him a name. People's sensitive egos and fragile egos leads to, unfortunately, a lot of senseless violence in our country, and you should try your best to avoid it.

Like, this is dumb, sad, unfortunate stuff that's happening in our country. One guy has brain damage and this other guy's likely going to jail for a long time. Jason Whitlock talks about this a lot. He calls it, I think he calls it a disc culture where, oh, you dissed me. So I've got a, I've got a, I've got a, I've got a, I've got to respond. Get you back one up you. I was a diss. You did that on purpose.

You stepped up, you stepped on my shoes. Now I got to, now I've got to, you know, I've got to, you know, I've got to, you know, you took my beanies, right? Yeah. Yeah. You know, you know, but it was, that was an agreement. That was a deal with me being a fighter that I, I would be reactionary like that. I'm not, like, now that I've, and especially now that I've gotten older and I'm done with boxing, I have

no, like, if I can walk away from a fight or any kind of altercation, I'm walking. When you get older, you see, I've just seen too much stuff happen with my friends and people I know. Well, to yourself, and... Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly.

I don't know. You start off, you almost died at the bar fight or something. By the way, that was... I don't know. I had what happened. I don't know the story. That was all just on the way to the studio. Yeah.

That was all just earlier. I was out here. You would have a tail list. Oh, dude, yeah. He's West Virginia nights, man. They get a little watch. Wacking wild These cracker bro is getting wild

By the way Tate Can I see your knife Yeah Just don't worry It's British approved Oh okay all right And hey Segway here

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I want to It actually was a good So I'm getting better at this We don't have a ton of details In terms of names In terms of everything that's going on but this was something that was tearing up the interwebs yesterday.

And Evie Magazine, the great ladies over at Evie Magazine to put this together, 14-year-old girl from Scotland charged after carrying weapons. Now, that's interesting headline because if you look at the video, you perhaps might come away with another idea about who it is, who should be charged, who is the aggressor, and who is the one doing something. Do we have, sirs, do we have the actual video? Can we just play this? If I hit that, we'll just play?

Okay. All right, I'm literally just driving now because this is... All right, I'll take it back. So you got, this is in Scotland, two girls. I think one is, we know one is 14. I think one's the younger one 14. Yeah, the older one is 14. She's the one holding her back.

Hey, I'm fucking broke me. You're fucking bad. Why you fucking let's her? She's a fucking cat bashoes. So the knife, so the knife. Get you fuck away from our house. Should a knife, show the knife. That's it, that's it, that's it.

Show the knife. That's the I'm not getting raped face. We're in the jury is loaded. Mar-a-ta, Mar-a-ta, Mar-a-ta. Don't touch her. Don't talk to her. Who is she yelling at? So she's yelling at, and I, is this it?

No, no, there's another angle of it where it's basically two migrants that are coming at her, and she's trying to, again, we're told that she is trying to get away from them and pushes back. on this. It brings up a lot of stories about the grooming gangs that have gone up before. I'm not seeing those pictures. Search, see if you can find the other angle of it. But going

back to the article, she has now been charged. So the police get called. She has now been charged for brandishing weapons. Rather, a bladed weapon, by the way. This happened in Dundee

and Tate, you know a little bit about that. So she's been charged for brandishing weapons to try to defend herself against people who were oh there it is there it is there's the other guys here I don't know how much I assume I can get but

they've already assaulted her right they've already we don't know we don't know so I think she's trying to prevent them whatever they were doing she's clearly saying get away from me right I mean well Scotland's a weird experiment because England's obviously

had this boris wave of migrants but They have, what, 50 million people? Scotland has six. So it's like you flood the, you flood, no, it's 5.5 million. So it's like it doesn't take that many migrants to completely change the look of a city. Yeah. In which case, Dundee, which is already a pretty rough place, you introduce just a couple hundred migrants. It's really going to destroy the social trust of the city.

And that's what you're saying here. So you've been there, though. Yeah, I've been to Dundee. How long ago? Last time I was there, it would have been last spring. So the spring of the previous year. Oh, it's not long ago at all. Yeah.

So very recently. And you were saying, you were saying, you were saying, you saw some migrants, but not as much as in other places? Yeah, I mean, compared to, like, Glasgow and Edinburgh, you don't see as much. Like, Dundee's still a very Scottish place, but it's a more working class town. They already have a drug, drug issues, unfortunately. And like I said, the migrants coming to Scotland, that's even after the Bores Wave. It doesn't take very many to destabilize places like Dundee.

These are not very large cities at all. The first time I ever went to Scotland was, I think, in 2004, 2005. And then the last time that I was there was in 2019, and it's noticeably different. If you go to, like, Govan and Glasgow, like, 20 years ago was 100% Scottish. Yep. It was like an Irish Catholic neighborhood. And you go there now, and it literally feels like the Middle East. And it's like, you know, you see these things at London.

It's like, even in London, it still feels to a degree reminiscent of England. Like, Govan, you have, like, people killing animals. A lot of London feels like that. Yeah, yeah. But it's like, it's unbelievable in Glasgow. Yeah, now, I've been, I haven't been a. Scotland I've been to Dublin though on the Ireland side and it's the same thing in Dublin

yeah yeah same thing so it's the people that are there have absolutely been abused by their government because they don't they didn't ask for this they were never there was no vote they yeah they vote against it all the time and the government does nothing at all about the violence that they that the migrants are bringing in and you've got you know both the UK are both England and Scotland are subject to the same thing

I think it's up the the same kind of thing is going on in Ireland I'm not sure how bad. But, I mean, these people have to deal with this. They have to deal with, you know, basically changing the, you know, the whole, the face of the country. And if they say, oh, we don't like this, or if they post about it on Facebook, they go to jail. Yeah. Well, you're seeing like in Northern Ireland the Protestants and Catholics coming together. I mean, do you know how existential a threat has to be to bury that hatchet? Right. In this case, there's a hatchet involved as well. But I mean, yeah, it's totally, totally insane. They're changing the

entire composition of a country before our very eyes, and they're doing it very rapidly. Completely engineered, right? And anyone that... They were trying to do that here. They were trying to do that here as well. Yeah, yeah. And any... We got to pull up some of the memes that people are making to stand in solid air.

We don't know her name. There's no GoFundMe or anything in terms of this. But people are just pointing it out that it's, you know, I'm surprised no one's done like the Braveheart meme yet. The Internet is so crazy. They've done that. Have you seen the Braveheart? I haven't seen it. I've seen her with the...

Even though, like, they keep the pants on, but the kilt the same from the show. Yeah, here's one. This is great. From SKS cartoon, make sure you go follow him. Why aren't there any men helping us? Britain has no men. We're on our own. That's really poignant.

Like, why are there no men that will stand up and say, this is unacceptable? There is, but they're all in jail, like at Southport. I mean, as soon as anybody tried to do something about it, they throw you in jail and don't explain it. We know what's crazy. Isn't it, I think it's today or yesterday. was the five-year anniversary of Kyle Rittenhouse. Yeah. And I saw that was going around a lot.

And I remember when that happened live, I was watching it live. I remember, obviously, I've come to know Kyle, I've covered the case, et cetera. And this was the exact same argument that I kept making. They were like, why is a 17-year-old out there doing this? Like, why is he the only one out there? Where are the adults? Yeah.

Like, where are the adults? Where are the people who put him in a situation where he's thinking somebody's got to stand up? He was 17, right? He was 17, 17, so not much older than this girl. Came a man overnight just like that. I mean, he took a matter. Yeah, I mean, what happened to that kid now?

It's like, we all should have been there. He does work in the 2A community. Yeah? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, and I mean, also in Texas, by the way. The UK is kind of an interesting case, too. Like, they actually have more of a propensity to push back on these sorts of things.

I think presumably because it's denser areas, it's easier to organize quickly versus the United States. But the UK cracks down much harder. I mean, you tweet the wrong thing and you're gone. They did the studio Ghibli me. Yeah. But I mean, the people... Yeah, there's the brave heart, yeah. The people in Scotland, the people in England, like,

they have allowed this to happen, unfortunately. You know, you can't... And they've allowed their government to imprison people. Look, there are enough people that can stand up and go stand outside of the magistrate's office and say, let those guys out of jail. Right? Like, if someone goes...

Because... This is the one. This, there it is. I don't know That's not necessarily Braveheart It's sort of a crusader Cic

But even still I mean It's Sentiments there It's yeah Joan of Arc is the one That comes to It just seems like a Joan of Arc

Just think how close we were To being like that As a society If Kamala would have won Dude I mean seriously Think of the chaos How crazy things would have been Yeah I mean

Well the UK is interesting Because it does feel like A testing ground For what they want to implement To a large degree It'll be worse here Because they're not going to be able to get rid of guns.

Just like scrolling through Twitter on this, on this, you know, you never know what's going to pop up. Seriously, the fact that the, the fact that the United States has so many guns, they're not getting rid of them. So things like this, it wouldn't just be, you know,

some girl fighting with knives. And it also means that the aggressive people that are looking to violate other people's rights, they're going to have guns as well. Right. So you're going to, like, the idea of a civil war or something that turns into, you know, serious problems, like, it would be way worse in the United States than in the U.K.

Well, and also the sources of migration, this is what separates Europe from the U.S. is most of our migration over the last few decades has been from Latin America, which culturally, obviously, it's still different, but more similar to the U.S. versus Europe. It's coming from the Middle East and North Africa, vastly different civilization. Well, now the U.S. is starting to get migrants from the Middle East, North Africa, and also South Asia, who are dramatically different from. from us. And so the UK is a bit of a trailer. They're setting up whole communities in Texas like Plano.

Oh, yeah. It's all Sharia Muslims. I mean, it's crazy, like massive communities being funded by all of them connected to deerborn, different cities in America, all interconnected. I mean, it's, it was about to kick off here, I think. And then I think Trump, man, came in and what he's doing right now with, with the troops and everything he's doing is exactly what I voted in for. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, Texas, you get the big monkey statue.

I mean, it's like, you know, it's great. It's like, oh, this won't stand in Texas, but it's like, it's happening everywhere. Right. So it's like, you could say, oh, well, let Zoron sink New York City. It's like, there's monkey statues in Texas. Like, this is a nationwide problem. Well, what Trump's doing right now with the cleanup is the cure has to be greater than the disease. It just does.

And it's what he's doing. The cure right now is that. And, you know, people can say what they want, but he's doing exactly what we voted them in for. Yeah. So it's like, I mean, the UK, the UK is in serious, serious trouble. I mean, like I said earlier, they're able to organize a bit quicker just because of how their society and communities are structured. But, I mean, the fact you can't even tweet, like, very, very innocent stuff

going to jail. I mean, I agree with you. Like, the men, dude, he'd be stepping up. But like I said earlier, a lot of the men that have stepped up are in jail. Because, like, you saw with Southport. Now you're seeing it where they're pretty- Because you can't even whisper something, you go to jail. You can't even hang at St. George's cross-up on a lamp post.

That's how they get you. Investigated by the police. You're always, like, all the guys that are doing that, they're always wearing a mask to conceal their identity and stuff. With all the problems we have in the U.S., it's like, that is. not something you have to worry about. So here's the thing, though. If you do defend the girl, here's what happens. You become the next Daniel Penny, or I think there was just a story of some guy in Germany who defended some chick that was on a bus or something. It was American.

Turned up into a piece of sliced cake. His whole face was all cut up. You become the next Daniel Penny, but you don't have the same outcome as Daniel Penny because the jury put you in jail for the rest of your life. That's the best case. Worst cases you just get stabbed or killed and nobody praises you, more or less, or you're demonized if anything goes wrong. There's a lot that goes on, and specifically in Scotland, I know it well, that happens, incidents like this happening in Glasgow

in Edinburgh and Dundee and Alloa, and it's kind of off the books a little bit. Like, this stuff kind of gets resolved away from the peering eyes of cameras and that sort of thing. This just happens to be an incident where it's been captured. But there is some pushback off camera.

It's time for CIA to start running guns. to England to the to the to the to the underground in England CIA's done it all over the world they can do it in the UK start you know let's go John there's anybody in Langley listening you're watching regime change I can get behind so I mean look I'm telling you man you go you go you go and you take back the UK right we should go and mass in France go over the channel take back the UK and then we're heading to Jerusalem yeah like you know I'm of English stock the UK is kind of like my Israel in a lot of ways. It's kind of the Holy Land.

You know, you go there, you get... You guys have a wall over there? Which one? Which one's the best wall? Hadrian's wall. Yeah, Hadrian's wall. Yeah, let's go to the wall. So it's a beautiful thing. And I really...

Which is supposed to keep out the... Well, it was supposed to be the border from with Scotland. Right. It's not doing his job. It's not doing his job. You know, put a few extra feet on it, but... This reminds me a little bit of the funniest thing that Tim's ever said. It was the after show. And then he had, like, a caller from Ireland saying that he wants to immigrate to the United

States. And he was like, no stay in Ireland and like if there were enough immigrants that went to Ireland like they take over and they take back northern Ireland unlike you native Irish people who would never have the boss to do that it was the most audacious thing it was like yo make Ireland great again yeah it was a very damn moment I was like yeah that's my boss I miss that guy huh no there's there's there's a lot going on we covered um we covered a protest that was going on in in Kerry in Ireland not too long ago and they had tens of thousands of people were out and it was on remigration It was about take back Ireland. Connor Greger, of course, has been out, you know, very much outspoken on this, you know, kind of flirting with the idea of even running for president, talking about this kind of thing that we need to take back Ireland for the Irish. And it's really amazing, right?

When you look at places like Ireland, like Scotland, that have fought for their independence for so long and have fought tooth and nail, right? So Ireland, you know, an example, has fought the British for, you know, hundreds of years. in, you know, if you look at the totality of it, in order to get back their Ireland, do you get their island back? And then they'll sit there and say, oh, but we also have, you know, have to let in, you know, so many people, oh, well, the Irish went everywhere. So, sure Jesus, sure Jesus, we should be, we should be allowing them to come here.

And you're like, wait, what? Yeah. It's just ridiculous. It's the, isn't that a part of Catholicism? And like, there are a lot of different Catholic charities. And as I understand in our country, who does want to advance a lot more. Well, it's not part of Catholicism, but it's, yes, there are, there are, there are, there are readings of it, but I would, I would say I would argue that those are false interpretations. But yes, certainly. A lot of false interpretations, but very common false interpretations. Certainly Catholic charities. Yeah, there's Catholic charities. There's, there's, there's, there's, there's other, you know, other religions have this as well. So it's, you know, it's, it's one that's a huge, huge problem where, where they come in, I don't know how big they are specifically in Ireland. It wouldn't surprise me, though, if it was also going on.

It's definitely a problem here. Ope Lio is for immigration, right? I mean, that's what he said. Yeah, Pope Leo has said that he's for, you know, for open borders. And he's spoken out. And it's like for all of like the good that I think that he said about other things that, you know, one of the things that and, you know, CNN was, you know, because we covered the conclave over there in Rome.

And they were, they were coming to me for saying, look, I don't think this is the conservative candidate that conservatives wanted. And I get all my all my tradcast. Bros. be like, what do you mean? You know, he's, you know, he's got the vestments and he's like opened the Latin Mass and this and he's good on same-sex marriage and he's good on abortion. I think he was perfectly picked. And I say, yeah, but it's to go to go against Trump, to oppose Trump. The borders issue. We hasn't really been coming out against Trump, to be fair. He hasn't really been open statements. But I mean, open borders, immigration. What do you think that says to the immigrants?

He's been, he's been undercutting, for sure. But he hasn't been in the way Francis was. I mean, he hasn't been this direct. But at the same time, he's, he hasn't. But at the same time. open borders and mass migration is the seminal issue of our time there's no and there's no question specifically in the west and if you're going to sit there and act like it's not an issue and it's a it's part of the globalist agenda right 100% it's destabilization of our countries right and so he is kind of like an opposing factor to trump which is kind of like they pick this guy from chicago they bring him in he wants open borders I'm surprised he hasn't been his voiced is I mean I haven't really heard much from him like I thought he's going to be much more

of a thornon in trump's side than he is well there was a reading on that but one of the other big issues too is that the vaticans kind of broke right now and uh church collections have been down revenues the vaticans broke yeah absolutely holy wow i never thought i never hear that go go go check out some of the vatican bank scandals that have gone on lately um the huge london real estate scandals they've been involved in uh just just you know the the money's down. Right, right, right, right. Worldwide for the Catholics. And, you know, they can point to numbers that have been church growth in Africa and South America, but that hasn't led to the type of money that you'd need to come in. And in places like where I'm from the Philadelphia area,

I mean, we just, you see churches closing every day. Yeah, less and less people are going and more people are on Zoom and more people are attending. And so, and so one of the reasons, one of the other reasons that they wanted to choose an American Pope is because, you know, given the combativeness, that Pope Francis had, and a lot of the confusion, I think, that a lot of his policies were going towards some of those really big dollar, America's, America's the world's largest economy. Are you Catholic? I am, yeah. So I was raised cow. I was an altar boy.

Oh, there you go. Yes, so is I. And so they want to get more access to that American big dollar market. And they think, you get an American, that's someone who can walk right at Villanova University, which is in the Philly area. So I almost went to Villanova, you know, where he went as undergrad. So, I mean, it's a huge, huge Catholic. Do you attend church? Do you go to church?

Every week, yeah. Really? See, I was better than, better man than I. I mean, I try to read the Bible as much as I can. But, yeah, I mean, I've kind of fallen away from the Catholic church at least. Check out Latin Mass. Check out Latin Mass. It's great.

It's so cool. It's like the old school. It's hardcore, right? You know, no English. Well, the homily, like the sermon in English. But, you know, it's way more. traditional and I think a lot more solemn than, you know, the modern Vatican II. Okay, so you are, you are for this pope or against this pope?

Eh, I, I see a lot of good in terms of some of those traditional items, but I just, I just think he's got to get his head right on immigration. I think, I think it's the biggest issue. So, I mean, I think it's worth mentioning, too, that, I know a Jewish person talking a lot about Catholicism right now, but the American brand of Catholicism is a little bit different than the global brand of Catholicism. The American Catholicism is a lot more right-wing than global Catholicism. It's worth mentioning to... There's different strains even in America, though. Sure. No, but worldwide, generally, as I understand, our version, our American version of Catholicism is a little bit more right-leaning. I think it's also worth mentioning. 40% of Catholics

are from Latin America. So I feel like it would make sense for the Pope to be very open towards immigration and towards people in Latin America. And he spent a ton of his career as a priest down in Peru. It makes sense because that's where global Catholicism, I'm reading right now, there's 500 some odd million Catholics in Latin America. This huge growth in South America, Latin America, and in Africa, but at the same time, and Asia as well, but at the same time, they just don't have the economic pull that, you know, Americans do.

Yeah. I'm saying it stands to reason why there would be some, you know, religious, affinity for Latin Americans who are Catholic and that Catholic organizations in our country would want to try to reach out to these people and help them because they believe in Jesus and they believe the same things they do and on a religious affiliation basis. So what's great though is that, you know, and you do have these different strains of political thought arising from Catholicism and that, you know, for like the tradcasts, you know, we would kind of point more towards Cardinal Sarah, who is African, but he and a Cardinal of the

church, but he would say, you know, people should go back to their home countries because this dilution is causing confusion, it's causing destabilization, it's causing all the issues that we're talking about a regular basis. If you were a globalist, wouldn't he be the perfect pick, Pope Leo, wouldn't he be the perfect plant to go against Trump? I mean, give the, the immigrants, the righteous indignation to fight against Trump to feel righteous about what they're doing. Pick a guy that's from Chicago, pick a pope that's open borders. Do you get what I'm saying here? To me, that's just, like the perfect plant. And, you know, that's how I see it, you know.

I mean, conspiracy theorists, but that's the way I see it. You know, really, that's really the only one say to you know. It's good for the Catholic brands person. Right, right, I mean. Well, it's like kind of what you're saying. Like, you get this thing online where you'll see specifically like really trad-Cath types, like chess beat and they'll post a map showing like how widespread Catholicism is becoming the United States.

But then it overlays with like migration from Latin America over the last 30 years. So it's like, because if you look. look at broadly, if you look at the demographics of the United States, the religious demographics, there's been a huge outpouring of Catholics into like non-denominational churches. In my opinion, it doesn't matter if there's an influx or an uptick in how many Catholics if too many of them are liberation theology Catholics, which is just leftism. And that's what you give from South America a lot. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's just leftism. Is that true? I'm not, I'm not familiar with liberation theology. It's leftist. That's the

brand of Latin American. It's leftist infiltration of the Catholic Church using the word of God to forward leftist agendas. It's because Marxism, when Marxism goes to different areas, what it does is it adopts to whatever the climate of that area is, right? The political climate, the cultural climate. And so because Latin America was all in South America, we're already Catholic, they said, okay, well, we're going to combine through like almost like a syncredalism, this idea of, okay, we're going to put, it's what's Catholic, and we're supporting the rights of the people to migrate, but it's also Marxist, right? And which is weird because it seems contradictory.

It seems contradictory because typically when the Marxists do take our, the very first thing they do in places like, oh, I don't know, Catholic France or Catholic Spain are start killing the priests and killing and raping the nuns on the altar. and smashing churches, and you see that this is in Mexico, they do it again and again and again, but to your point, it's this other strain of Marxism that's infiltrating through the church. When people say that, like, Marxism will take over whatever you love and wear it, like a skin suit, that's not just a figure of speech. That is how Marxism operates.

Well, they did it to, they've done it to the, but they've also done it at the mainline churches in the U.S. And you look at historically, whoever were the founding fathers, they were like Episcopalians, they're Presbyterians. and you look at those denominations now and it's like that's where you get the pride flags the lesbian preachers and everything like it's a little nightmare we had the i was at the national uh prayer you know uh service that right after trump got inaugurated with jd vance and we had the the female bishop in the national uh cathedral and i was like well you know okay first time seeing a you know a lady priest let's see how this goes and then and and what does she do wasn't she talking trash to trump right there she starts she gives a homily or a She gives a sermon saying that people, that, that no one is illegal and people shouldn't be deported. And you can, you can see the president kind of sitting there like, what's going on? And we're, we're just, we're just a couple rows back. And it got really very uncomfortable, uncomfortable for everybody. What is he going to do something? So, you know, to credit to him,

you know, being a gentleman, he didn't say anything or do anything at the time. But I think, but even before he made it back to the White House, he's up on. truth social. Yeah, he went right at it. But that's, that's what the Marxists are doing, right? They're taking over the schools and indoctrination camps, the churches. It's all captured operations. All captured operations. I mean, every institution and organization now has been captured, and we're trying to untangle that web right now with Trump and break free of this. Well, while we're talking about that, you know, we had a huge debate last night about freedom of speech and whether burning a flag constitutes freedom of speech.

This is going viral. I've gotten so many messages about it. Great discussion. And so here, and I'd love to, by the way, for all of those people who were so supportive of the rights to burn the American flag. Okay. All right. That's your statement. That's freedom of speech.

Are you also going to support the freedom of speech of Shiloh Hendricks? Of course. Because Shiloh Hendricks has now been. in charge. So who was Shiloh Hendricks? Let's remember this. She went viral for language that she used at a Rochester park in a video that went viral. This is out of the Minnesota Star Tribune. She has hurled racial slurs. Now, this claims that she hurled them at a child, although that's not what we see in the video. And it says she is being charged. Church, can we get, can we see what she was charged with, or is there a paywall on this thing? So I'm new to it. It says a white woman

yelling at a black kid or a black woman. She's a white woman. And we're told that there was an altercation between her and a black child. But that's not what we see. What we see in the video is another guy who's sort of following her, chasing her, harassing her, saying, I'm filming you. I'm going to make you famous. puts it on TikTok. It racks up millions and millions.

Now she's famous. Wow. She made her million dollars. She uses, yeah, she says the N-word in the video, says it... To a child, though. Well, she's saying it to the guy filming in the video. Now, he's saying that she said it to the child. I want to give out what did she...

What was she charged with? She said, you know, she admitted to calling him the offensive... Is orderly conduct. And said that she can call him that if he acts like one. So she kind of admits saying it in the video. So even though we don't have the video of it, she admits it in this later video. What has you been charged with three counts of disorderly conduct?

I can see the disorderly conduct, right? No, she raised, she raised a ton of money on gives and go. This was in the wake of Carmelo Anthony. And I want to, do we know, do we have the give send go? Do we know how much money she raised? I think it was a million, right? It was a million. I think it was a million.

I don't know what it's exactly at right now. That's hot I direct, yeah. But I believe she raised a million dollars off of this. Wow. Here we go. Here we go. Freedom of speech. For, by the way, and I'm just going to say it, for saying a word that black people say all the time.

Non-stop. To each other. All the time. They don't land the R. Was she landing the R? I mean, they just say, oh. So, and this, but this is the debate I want to get into, right? So the debate is that for all of the people who say that it's freedom of speech to burn a flag, then what about Shilohendricks's freedom of speech to, to literally.

I'm going to call a child the other word. It is freedom of speech. you should be able to say what the hell you want to say in America now whether it's whether you agree with it or not that's up to that person but if this guy wants to call me a dirty spick he can call me a dirty spick all he wants you want to what if I want to come up to your child

and call your child to that's your I'll knock you out well yeah but I mean still it's his freedom of speech right sure yeah okay so it saves you from consequences from the government but not necessarily right absolutely but was she just going out now and again I don't know was there more to the story I think there's I think I think

I think, and I don't know with the video were up there. I would never know. You're Hispanic? No. They said, they did say though. We're going to a bar after this. I believe she said that that the kid was going through her bag. It was like, so when you go, and I'll just say this, having, you know,

taking the kids to, you know, the playground, to get the park. You know, you have like your baby bag, your kid bag that's there. You bring, you know, some drinks, some food, some whatever. It's there. And then someone starts going through your bag. And you're Like, hey, that's, you know, that's not.

But it was a child. It was just a child with her. It was the child that was going through. Sweetheart, that's my bag. We don't know exactly what happened before the video. And that's what I want to say. And I always say that with viral videos, that whenever you see some video that goes crazy viral that is going out, George Floyd is, you know, of course, the quintessential example of this.

Show me what happened five minutes before. Right. Right. Show me what happened five minutes before, before I have to come in, you know, and, you know, past judgment. because if we don't have that rule, if you don't have the five minutes rule, then all of a sudden we're going to become this country that's just ruled by whatever video is going.

Just everyone's a reactionary. That shouldn't be our system. So I think the conversation that we're having, the ideas that we're debating with is, it's very complex free speech issue that we're dealing with. I think a quote that's often misattributed to Voltaire it succinctly describes what we're working with. Like he allegedly said,

I know I'm misattributing this quote, but I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. I think the idea here is that let's say a government that you don't like eventually gets into power and has other things that they want to allege could potentially produce riots, and therefore you shouldn't be able to burn trans flag. So it really depends. The issue is giving the government the power to do. You already can't burn a trans flag.

You can burn a trans flag as far as I'm concerned. As far as you're concerned, but I'm saying... No, as the law is actually concerned. I think you're misattributing, like, a story that didn't exactly line up with somebody actually burning a trans flag. Also, it's worth mentioning that the law that's actually passed is in regard to, like, somebody burning a flag and then inciting a riot as a result of it. Trying to incite a riot, I think, is what the actual charge is here. But it's like, how far... We covered that last night.

Like, I made that... What was the story of somebody burning the trans flagging? No, no, no. I'm talking about the American flag E.O. I made the distinction that what was passed yesterday, it was a... it was basically taking that idea that you're not going to, you're not going to be charged directly for the burning of the flag, but it's the incitement.

Yeah, so, so it's an additional, additional other things. I think this would be a limit on free speech, although I am very conflicted. I love our country. I love the country's values. I love what the flag symbolizes. Um, but I, I'm conflicted on using the law and trying to arrest people and using law enforcement as a result of that.

And where would we eventually draw? the line and will eventually these laws be used against me. One of the things that people consistently say, were saying to me on Twitter is, first of all, they were like, well, you know, all the stuff about the trans flag or people that were doing burnouts on the rainbow crosswalks and blah, blah, blah, that is all the idea that anyone should be prosecuted for that is also ridiculous, right? Like, that shouldn't be any kind of defense because nobody that burns a trans flag or does a burnout on a rainbow cross. None of them should actually be prosecuted. There should

never be an arrest. People bring up hate crimes. I don't think that hate crimes are real because hate crimes are thought crimes. Like there should not be any hate crimes. If you commit a violent act to someone, that's what you should be prosecuted for. All a hate crime is is a thought crime and that is outside of the realm of the government. So like, when this case, these are not particularly complex in my opinion. Getting it back to to Shilohenrics, we have, we now have word crime. Yeah, of course. Of course, that should not be a crime. And let's think about that, right?

You know, if she had cursed, and I'm just going to play devil's advocate, if she had cursed at the child, would she be getting charged? Probably not. No, it needs to be a special word. Get the F away. But if she said, get the F away from my back, which she may have said, would she be probably getting charged? No. Right. So what I'm saying is that.

She's kind of in the right. The kid was basically with her property. I mean, I can see that, but none of us would handle that like that. I think it's rude. It's very rude. Right, but that's it. But did she go ballistic and crazy afterwards and keep yelling at the kid? Is that what happened?

I haven't even seen it. Well, we don't know. We don't know exactly what happened. And that's getting back to my five minutes. We don't know exactly what happened. But what I'm saying is these, this was, it was a playground thing, right? You know, these things happen all the time on playgrounds where there's some altercation, something goes wrong. It doesn't seem like anyone was physically hurt here in any way.

Thank God. You know, it doesn't seem like. Because if she just said to like, hey, get out of my bag and then said the N word and Okay, but if she kept calling the kid names and, like, berating the kid, that's like abuse, right? Right? Kind of? That will come up, I'm sure. But what about the fact that the person who was harassing her caused her to be doxed, caused her, caused them to go after her family, clearly is, and by the way, is also doxing her child, putting it up to get social media cloud, to get clicks, et cetera, et cetera.

Now she's a millionaire. What if everybody in the story is deplorable and just sucks? What about, you know, if everybody, I don't need to feel bad about anybody here. The little kid sucks for reaching to the bag. The way the kid's parent or guardian reacted sucks. And we have no idea where, we have no idea where the first parent is, by the way, the parent of this, the five-year-old that's going in the bag, because the person who's filming is not their parent. Oh, okay. So we have no idea where that parent is.

So that's the very first thing, by the way, and again, I'll be consistent, right? If I said that I would go go down on my kid and bring him to, you know, come down on my kid and, you know, you know, you know, go to the, you know, take him to the police station, if he did something that like Roger Jackson did, then in the same token as this, if my kid is going through somebody else's bag at the playground and say, hey, what are you doing? My mom gave the principal the right to spank me and beat my ass,

and also my neighbors. And that was just last week. Did they take the opportunity? I kind of enjoyed it. No, but, no, really, when I was a kid, I'd hold on to the desk and bend over. And I'm like, oh, well, bam. Hashtag West Virginia Knights.

And my mom was like, yeah. Yeah, I know, but my mom was like, you deserve that. My mom would give me preemptive ass beatings before I'd walk into a store. She'd hit me and say, you better not do this or that. I mean, I was raised that way. I was raised with ass kickings all the time. Probably that's why I'm the way I am now. But I'm just saying like, but I mean, I understand it.

Like, I mean, kids could be, you know, animals, dude. They could be just, you know, for me growing up, I was always in trouble. So I expected that. But, I mean, my neighbors, my mom gave the. neighbors permission like look if he jumps on your roof and does that again beat his ass right and so did did she go did she go overboard in in throwing the m word at a five-year-old yeah you could say that she did my mom called me some names i don't want to repeat them at the same time where's where's the first parent you know of that child you get a five-year-old at a playground you're not

paying attention to him that's a very young age that is not the age of a kid that should just be you know let out on themselves i agree that she's probably on her phone she's She's probably, like, looking for the next TikTok video, thinking, oh, what's, what's up next? And I see that, too, by the way. I see that, you know, and that's not a racial thing. That's just, you know, parents are on their phones way too much. And I try very cognizantly to get myself away from the phone. I don't know, man.

Times have changed so much when I was younger. But the point is, the point is, should you face charges for that? I don't think so. No, no. Or should that be something that really probably should have stayed between, it should have stayed on the playground. That's all I'm saying. I mean, me growing up, my mom used to beat the crap out of my friends and my friends' mothers used to beat the crap out of me. Everyone, I mean, it was just the way it was. I don't think she, definitely not be charged for that 100% no. Yeah. I mean, I just, I don't think it's warranted. And that's why, by the way, when it comes to the flag burning stuff, I'm going to say, look, we already have de facto speech codes in this country. And that's, that's essentially what this is. It is a de facto speech code that already exists. It is a standard and a precedent that has already been said.

You can argue over when it was set, but it's been set. And it's currently set. We do not live in a free speech society. We don't. Yeah, nobody's principled in their belief in free speech. I don't think people like to larp and posture as if they are. But when push comes to shove on an issue that they care about, it kind of goes out the window. My principle is reward patriots, punish non-patriots.

Exactly. It's my principles. Like, you know, you can't burn the flag full stop. I don't have to justify this. Should you be able to talk trash about the flag? The founders wouldn't have tolerated this. that you have the right to do that's not anymore not as of yesterday no no kidding guys i'm i'm sitting here with like a third of my arm as the 13 colonies flag and i'm still saying hey

it's okay it's not going to hurt the united states i know the argument that was being made oh this is about demoralization absolutely hurts i don't think that i don't say that it hurts i disagree i don't think that it actually hurts you could have yank those people off the street there's no way to raise kids totally there's no way to raise kids to value their country if you also teach them it's okay to burn the flag. You tell dear kids that the people that are actually burning the flag are the scum of the earth.

And again, I'm the guy that's got the only guy here that's the flag tattooed on his body. Just because if it is illegal, it doesn't mean it's okay. Yeah. I feel like we also need to, I detest anybody who would, but you have to agree with it. I don't agree with it. But if someone wants to burn the flag, I'm just going to look at them and be like, oh, what a moron. And just keep walking that.

I'm going to detest you and loathe you. And I think you should be... Yeah, or you can just go to jail. Because it's an uncontrolled burn because it's a crime. So that's... So what do they say? So you could burn a flag in your own home if it's privately, but if you're inciting... Okay, so the current EO does not cover that. So if you went on Amazon, I said this last night, if you went on Amazon and you purchased a flag and you brought it home and I think somebody, there was, you did some like, you know, two-way guy was, was totally be like, you know, edgy and he like, he had one of those like, you know, handheld flags.

Gunco pop. Yeah. And he burned it today. Look at me. It's like, well, the EO doesn't cover that. The EEO says when you're out a riot or in a public setting and you are going to incite imminent illegal action or violence that is the time when the DOJ is directed to go after you. See, I think this is

all, man, I don't know how much time we have left, but I just want to say, like, I think this is going in a direction where I think Trump is preparing for something big, man. And I think it's like, I'm serious. There's national guards on the streets. I think it's getting ready. It's not protected speech. It's never

I mean, what happened in June? You saw those kids are burning cars, flags. And just to get into it again, I mean, I sell this less than I don't want to repeat myself, but this is this is a Marxist argument. It is absolutely a Marxist twisting of the First Amendment to claim that expression is speech. People, the pro-life movement fought against Roe v. Wade for years and years and years and finally got it overturned because they were able to prove that it wasn't in the Constitution.

Protection of flag burning is nowhere near in the Constitution. And believe it or not, it was decided a decade after Roe v. Wade. So Roe v. Wade was around for much longer than flag burning was protected. And yet people want to sit here and act like the founding fathers would have supported that. It's just not true. It's a completely Marxist argument that came up at the kind of the tail end of the counterculture, you know, sort of 60s radicals revolution. They finally get this decision out of the Supreme Court in 1989. And it's just, it's ridiculous.

This is completely ridiculous. It's antithetical to our history. It's Marxist. The founders went further with the John Adams with the Sedition Act in 1789. 100%. It's like the flag burning would have been on a completely. That would have gotten you ostracized and probably mobbed. They even went further with like just basic criticism.

I'm not saying that's either here nor there. But to act like the founders would have been this like, oh, yeah, that's totally fine. Burn it. This is part of our rights. It's like, that's not how American structure is. I don't agree with it at all. I don't think you should burn a flag. Absolutely not.

you should have the right to do it. If you're an idiot, you have the right to be an idiot. But that's Marxism. Yeah. That is a Marxist argument that has come up only started in the Marxist in the 1960s. People deploy the same argument with pornography. Right. That's how they defend these of pornography.

You're saying, well, I disagree with it, but you have the right to do it. I'm like, but this is clearly destructive to everyone. How many years did states have obscenity laws? Yeah. Obscenity laws, blasphemy laws. You're making a good point. Like if your girlfriend or your wife sends naked pictures of herself, your wife, for context, right? So say your wife sends you naked pictures.

That's pornography. Right. That's different than publishing. Why? Because this is distribution to the public with an attempt to sway society. It's not going to sway society. What we're arguing, right, but what he's arguing, and what I'm trying to argue is that this is our actual history, right? So for people who want to claim that, oh, the founder, like, it's a foundational belief of America that you have to, you know, you have to allow for flag burning and pornography and, you know, and all this stuff. No, it's just not true. It's never been true. It's just, it is an A historical Marxist argument.

And it's, it's, so I disagree that it's a Marxist argument, but the promoting Marxism, Phil. Like I said, I disagree that it's a Marxist argument. Go talk to the Marxist. With the American flag on his arm. You Marxist! While we're getting deeply engaged in the philosophical debate here, I'm still going to defend the right of people to do what they want. If they want to burn a flag, you have the right to do that. If I agree with, I don't agree with it, but I don't agree with it.

Carl Marx would be so happy with you right now. The president, I think the president is a lot more pragmatic in what he's doing for political reasons. So I think the president is extremely effective at baiting Democrats and stupid people in the media into taking his bait. So what do I mean by that? when he says he's sending the National Guard into D.C. to fight crime, he's making Democrats defend crime. So now when he's saying he's going to make burning the flags illegal, he's going to make Democrats defend burning flags. And he's putting them in this rhetorical argument where they're being forced to defend the worst things because it's what he is doing.

So as far as being like a pragmatic political operator, I think Trump's very effective in what he's trying to set Democrats up to do. He's getting traps. That's what I think he's doing here. I think he cares about the philosophy or is it right or wrong. He's thinking, oh, burning flags, you know, is bad enough. I'm going to make the Democrats defend burning flags. Well, not only that. He's going to get them to do that. Well, Trump says, I can't do this.

I'm going to do it. And now they're going to burn flags. Go be principled in your free speech and burn a flag. See how much the public likes that. But I think that's what the president is baiting people into doing. He is a very savvy political operator in how he's behaving here. That's what I think people should be 3D chess thinking about these Trump moves because these moves didn't come out of nowhere, right?

He's trying to set up a narrative. But flag burning has been controversial. for like 30 years. This isn't like a recent just Trump giving... Well, he's bringing it back into the news. Funny that Hillary Clinton actually supported this in 2005. Go figure. When she was a senator, this was something that it was so, you know,

it was so like, quote unquote, popular, you know, in, you know, rally around the flag, close on an 11 environment, that even Hillary was like, yeah, we should get on board with this. So, you know, we also would happen in June, right? So, you know, we also would happen in June, right? They're waving the Mexican flag. They're burning American flags, you know, the riots,

the protests that happened in the way. Yeah, we talked about this telling us like exactly yeah and so obviously i feel with him putting the troops on the streets in dc getting ready now what 19 states i think he's getting ready for something much bigger and this is all everything all the moves he's making is alluding to this to me from what i can see from a 60,000 foot view is i think something bigger's coming around the corner and he's preparing for it with protests and civil unrest and i think that could be maybe when people start getting arrested dog I'm just saying, because if they'll do it for George Floyd, if they'll protest for George Floyd. So what you're saying is, and if I ever hear this rate, because this EO, and a lot pointed out, that it's, it's very specifically talking about these instances at, you know, in public and.

Yes, he's getting ahead of the ball. So he's thinking something's going to happen. He's thinking like a general. He sees what's coming. He's like, okay, because if they'll riot and protest when George Floyd got arrested, right? Your liberal next door was rioting and protesting. everyone was going crazy so if they'll do that with george floyd what are they going to do let's say i don't know hillary obama gets arrested let's say that comes he's getting ahead of the ball here

with this so he's setting his chest pieces and he's he's setting his chest pieces in order here to make those moves he's moving in the troops he's setting the perimeters do you guys get what i'm saying here yeah stop getting my hopes up i'm telling you this is coming i can see dude i would love it i've been watching phil's going to be sitting there i've been watching why are you arresting the flag burners Stop, look at my tattoo, please, please. Out of your mind, Jack. Stop, right. He's going to be crying.

Out of your mind. It's going to be singing. I know you all are thinking of the same thing. I didn't know that you were so into, into struteman. Defending the United States. Strong man arguments. I didn't really want to go there with this. Liberals accuse him of that all the time.

It's unreal. I will always, I will always. I mean, we all, it's a straw man argument. I've never said that I'm like, oh, the poor guy, blah, blah, blah. I'm just saying that it should not, people should not. People should not go to jail for it. So making it out like I'm like some kind of bleeding heart liberal is ridiculous. But dude, what are they going to do with?

You are kind of simping for flag burners. I'm not simping for flag burners at all. I haven't said, oh, the poor flag burners or anything. I'm saying that the principle of free expression and free speech includes flag burning. Where is the word? If you don't agree with it, that's fine. But to sit there and straw man me is just bullshit. Okay.

Okay. Where is free expression in the Constitution? Please pull it up. I said free expression and free speech. Well, okay, great. So pull up free expression. in the Constitution. So I know that I'm aware that it's not in the Constitution. So just pull it up for me.

I just told you, I'm aware that free expression is not in the Constitution, but freedom of association isn't in it either. But people on the right always say, oh, we should have freedom of assembly is there. Freedom of association, which is different than freedom. If you're going to say that freedom of assembly is the same thing as freedom of association, then freedom of expression is the same thing as freedom of speech.

No, physical act is not speech. I'm saying If you're going to make the argument that they're the same, then abortion is not privacy. I'm not making the argument that abortion's privacy. No, I'm just saying these are things that Marxists did to our Constitution to twist the meaning of words to get people to suddenly say, oh, I'm defending freedom by defending all these things that degrade, demoralize, and destroy my country. So like I said, the freedom of speech, I think that if you burn the flag, that's expressing yourself. That's not the Constitution. It's, it's, it's, it's speech is in the constitution. Show me where it is in the Constitution.

It's speech. It's, the point is it's speech. You keep saying, show me where it's in the Constitution. I told you. I, I don't have to agree with it. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to cut you off. No, no, no, but you're, you're twisting the words of the Constitution. I'm not twisting.

To achieve a goal that the communists want. Is pornography speech? Can I just, can I just, I think it's fine. You think, I don't think that it's, I think that it's, I think that it's, I think that, person, I think there are sometimes speech. I think that speech does cover expression because you're expressing Can I just say that expression is not speech

I think what he's doing here is brilliant in a way And I agree with you by the way I agree with you but I think he's he's putting his chest pieces in position For what do the liberals love to do When they're protesting and chanting and rioting They burn flags Dude they're getting he's getting ready

He's getting ahead of the ball I'm telling you he's like a war general he sees what's coming, something big's going to come. Do you agree with me? I think he's just baiting glibs. He's baiting libs to defend this. What's going to happen is they're going to go crazy. I'm telling you, we're watching.

I mean, I agree that I think that is what he's doing. And that he did the same thing on crime. He was baiting libs to say, oh, no, a few muggings are okay, like a few shootings. I think he believes it, too. I mean, to be fair. I think he's doing it as a savvy political move. I think this other stuff is immaterial to him. I think he's just very savvy political.

I think he's a patriot and he loves America, and he hates to see that happening. I don't think we're seldom going to see this invoked. I see when the chat is asking, can we burn Phil's arm as free speech? But I see with what Trump is doing with the troops and everything he's doing, he is setting his pieces up for strategy, the whole flag-burning thing,

it's all strategy. I think what's coming, he's preparing for something he knows they're going to be set off. It's so funny, by there's a bunch. It's funny because there's a bunch of people in the, chat who are like, we're like, Posobic is making things is wrong. And I'm like, guys, it's, it's not in the Constitution. It's just not there. Like, you can, you can, you can, you can claim it as all you want, but it's just not there. The same way that abortion is not

in the Constitution. Like, it's just not there. You want to pivot to super chats. I feel we do have to, yeah, we do have to. I feel bad for those. Surge has been texting me for a while, and so I look at the chats and I do want to get that. And, okay. I feel like we never run through the super chats enough. We don't want to search. I'm a very thoughtful. I'm a three-time Trump voter and longtime Tim Kest fan. A lot of the staff and the right in general now flirt with authoritarianism. If you say F the rules, F principles, how are you better than Beto? I'm the only one here who's actually reading the Constitution and defending it. The thing is, the Constitution says a lot of things that don't exist in reality right now. Tell me what the Second Amendment is right now.

I cannot have, you know, equal rights to a firearm. I cannot carry a firearm in most of the places that I live. Sure. Actively. But, oh, it's the Second Amendment. Oh, it's in the Constitution. okay the Constitution doesn't apply to most of the things in our practical real life right now or there are more laws added after the fact that that doesn't mean you shouldn't defend it you're not wrong but as for pragmatic practical purposes go so are you saying that's the act of burning the flag is not freedom of speech it's the act of kept putting it on fire I'm sorry that's what you're saying oh no I'm trying to really absorb this that's what you're saying right the act of lighting a flag on fire is not that's that not that is not that's not

freedom of speech. It's not. He's arguing that it's not speech. It's not speaking. Because it's not so it's like a category or speech. It's not a category or speech. It's an act. If I, if you and I are speaking, it's like vandalism. Freedom of speech. I think it's incitement is what people were arguing in the excitement is the EO. I'm not on the EO. I'm going further. I agree that I'm yeah, obviously I'm going further. I'm just trying to understand this better. But this is just if it's done in public settings in a protest, then that's against a law. But if someone has a flag in their own home and they want to burn their flag that they bought, they can do that?

That's where I'm, that's, I don't understand the, not under the current, under the current EO, you could. So you could burn American flag in your home, in your home. But if you're out at a protest, you start burning the flag, that's against the law. That's the current executive order, yes, because he says that it's, uh, incitement. I do have to get to the super chats because I'm, I'm being very remiss. I do like this conversation, though. Where, wait, okay, sorry, I'm looking at the wrong spot.

Um, here we go. This is from Metho, 671. Oh, this is Rumble. This is Rommel rant. If Trump accepts 600,000 Chinese students, he should be impeached and removed under the 25th. China is an enemy of the United States and is plotting our downfall every day. And I voted for him. Wow. So, again, I mean, that's what we titled this episode, that there's a MAGA uproar. And there you go.

Where are we going? Elad is nuts. This is from Spork Witch. What is a Spork Witch? Now, that is... That's nuts. Now, that is interesting. Did they give a take that they were upset about?

So college doesn't teach America. values. It indoctrinate students in Marxism. China only allows party members in good standing to go, zero benefit, all cost and harm. That's just not true on both accounts. And also maybe you could talk more to the China part, but I just don't think that's the case. But let's go. I mean, I'd say it's probably case by case basis. But if you're, if you are a party member, you're going to have a more chance or from a family that has a party member, there's a better chance you're going to make it. Let's see. The only reason, the only rational reason for the students is to use the as hostages for the CCP.

This is from SPQR 2008, so we're returning, returning Rome, the Roman Empire in the 2008, using him as hostages for the CCP not taking Taiwan or the South China Sea. Matt Rides, a friend married a Chinese girl. Her bro is in the army. By the way, that's interesting because most, you know, most people in China are one child, but that's changing. Good point. So.

I don't know. Maybe this is fake news. It's, they've been relaxing it in recent years. So, you know, if you're younger, it's possible. Like Gen Z. So millennials don't have siblings in China, but Gen Z kind of can. But in some cases, again, if you're a CCP elite, you can, or if you have a special dispensation, you can get kids. And so he was told that because his sister is married to a foreigner, he is not eligible for promotion in the army.

CCP has zero issue with holding family accountable. So this family reprisal collective punishment. This was to my point earlier that Chinese nationalists are also against student visas for Chinese people coming over here. That's more of a reason to not do it. MFT2 says, how long will she still be in charge of China? Rumor is he is on the outs with his party. Yeah, I see that headline.

Gosh, it's like, it's like routine every six months. He's about to go. He's about to go. He's about to go. The CCP is about to fall. They're about to fall. They're going to fall tomorrow. And then they just keep going.

He just keeps purging them. Anybody who questions their loyalty, even the people who are loyal to CCP, Xi Jinping and the CCP, he just keeps doing these so-called corruption purges. And of business leaders, too, anybody gets too powerful China, you disappeared. They were putting it on TV.

So it was the number one show in China at one point where the struggle sessions, because you don't have to hold them in these mass public settings and soccer stadiums anymore, like the Cultural Revolution. They were putting them on TV. and they made like a reality show about it so and you would actually have to get the official who's

being purged the purgey i suppose um is now on camera speaking to the camera reciting their crimes against the nation um and and you get to see all of the things they did and then that person gets purged and this was like number one highest rated show in china was out you know to the point of of you know if she were to be you know die or taken out of power or whatever That doesn't mean that the government's going to change. It just means that she's not the guy in charge. He just gets replaced. Yeah.

It would just be another person. Here's an interesting. She gets replaced with Lee. Here's an interesting. But I think Xi Jinping will be there for quite some time. I really do. And by the way, he could, it wouldn't surprise me also if he pulled a, the Medvedev swap, like Putin did for a minute. So, you know, you stand down for one term, you know, go into a lesser role.

and come back as the overall leader. It wouldn't surprise me if there was something like that that happened. Really interesting comment from Corbin 26. I'm a second generation immigrant. I speak English, French, Spanish, and my parents' languages. We believe in MAGA, yet are still not seen as American enough. Do we have to abandon our original culture to belong? And I would say, look, I think personally that, and I'll open it up,

but just from my personal answer would be that, you know, assimilation is a multi-generational problem. process. It just is. I don't think it makes you any less American. If you are a first-generation immigrant or a second-generation immigrant, I don't think you should listen to people who say otherwise. You're just as much of an American and you have equal rights compared to those people. So as far as I'm concerned, there's a difference between having the rights of an American citizen and being an American. Well, I don't, what is, what are the qualifications and what allows legal and illegal? No, no, what I'm talking about is this multi-generational process of this.

I don't think you need to be here for multiple generations to be an equal. American. Somebody who... One person can't be here for multiple generations. What? One person can't be here for multiple generations. Or if their family was here for multiple generations, I don't think that would make... But there's one person more American.

They don't want to be... Like, they're not... What about being proud of your heritage? I mean, my family's from Mexico. I don't know. I mean, I'm proud of my Mexican heritage. What is he... What exactly are they saying?

Well, it's... They don't feel American enough. We're making the distinction between what is an American versus what is American citizen. And I think they're asking, you know, when do I become American? If you live here legally, man, you're... American. That's it. But there's a difference between being someone who, you know, is just an illegal immigrant versus someone who's been here for hundreds of years. Yeah, like, I'm more American than he'll are. You just said, you just said yourself that I can't be here

for hundreds of years. Yeah, you can't be. I said, I said wrong, a family who's been here for hundreds of years. So I'm trying to understand. What's the difference between how American someone is and the citizenship? What's, I think it's one is, one is a legal piece of paper and one is a, you know, a prologel? I'm trying to understand. What is, what makes someone American beyond citizenship shared culture shared culture shared heritage share that's what makes america so rich and great is that everyone is a different culture everyone brings it all to the table everyone here but there is there is a core american culture for sure and that's what they mentioned we share i mean hot dogs and baseball i mean i mean i i know it's our american yeah i know and i love them but i'm just saying like

but everyone kind of brings something to the table from italy from mexico we're all here together you know making america so rich and beautiful you know the point that the point that that the is kind of being talked about or that they're kind of dancing around is there are people that think that America is a white Protestant country and if you're not white Protestant, you're kind of not a real American. And whether or not people, whether or not people, you know, and the problem with this. Tell that to the Indians.

I mean, America didn't exist before the Europeans came. But I'm not making an argument for that or against that, but the point that the person's getting at, and that's kind of what the, discussion online is now the people that say talk about heritage americans or real americans what they're talking about is people that are white anglo-saxon protestants right that is right but that's a part of america country yeah right and so that and so the people that are not white anglo-saxon protestants they're suspect somehow and that's honestly the way that it goes

it's i wouldn't necessarily say suspect i would just say that you're you're from a you're from a country or a culture that is separate from the original americans but i don't think the Constitution was based on that. And your Americanness, I think, depends on your belief in American values, which aren't inherently based to any, you know, original founding stock of the country. So you just divide the world between Americans and future Americans. People will make an argument that it does. People make an argument that this is, that America is for a particular people and that other people can't assimilate. Yeah. And I'd argue that it's un-American and not found in the Constitution. Well, people can assimilate, but they're assimilating to something.

Right, so what are they... The American values, but the American values inherently... I don't think America is just an idea, though. America is... The American people are a people. The American nation is a nation of people. You have to... Right, it takes different kinds of people to make America, right? America has changed over time, but, you know, the idea that the American people are just this amorphous blob

and that anyone can just automatically become American because you get a piece of paper, it's ridiculous on its face. I can't go to... I mentioned living in China. I speak Chinese. I can't just I can't become Chinese let me ask then Jack if I'm a if I'm a member of the the founding stock Mayflower or what have you but I am a hardline communist leftist am I and I've heard all these arguments all week oh I'm not great so you could have a good

answer for it right so what do you think like am I any less American if I'm a diehard communists hate America hate American values want the country and the government to be overthrown am I more American than so and as the super chatter who be a stupid American but you'd still be an American I'd be more of an American than the person who's here as a second-generationer. I think this guy said his parents were... It's a matter of history. It's not something that I can change.

In your eyes, is the person... It's not in my eyes. It's just a matter of history. It's a matter of your interpretation of what it means to be an American. We're describing a mechanism at work. Yeah, it's a historical mechanism. Those were the people who founded America. Yes. So now we were valuing people on how much somebody is American or not.

It's not value. It's not valuing. I never said anything about valuing. You're adding that word again. just like you had. No, he's saying, evaluate, not valuing. He was saying valuing. Were you saying valuing?

I was trying to get to the point that I feel like you're purposefully not trying to tangle with. So again, this guy was saying he doesn't truly feel American or feels of like less of American because he was a second generation immigrant. I'm asking you now, you already said you're asked this all the time, so you should have a well-thought-out answer. You know, somebody again, founding stock came here on the Mayflower, but is currently in his day and age, a die-hard communist wants to overthrow the government, is a revolutionary compared to the super chatter who said, you know, he's a second generation American.

Are these people of equal Americanness to you? Is one more or less American to you? One more or less. I mean, there's separate things. So you're taking someone's mental status and trying to imbibe that to their family's history. I'm talking about their family's history. I'm not talking about whether they're a liberal or a conservative or any of these things. So you're saying that that guy would be more American, the diehard communist whose family came here and has been here since the Mayflower?

as as it is it's simply a matter of history oh okay so say like i don't like i feel like you're so you think that person is more that person who comes from we're very we're like right on the end so we should i think because we all agree we'll carry this over yeah carry this over so the answer is yes obviously that person is from the founding stock of america and a person who is an immigrant if they're not from that that you know that culture is not yeah i think the exact opposite and i think that person is actually would be a threat to america and americans but i'm not saying they're not a threat but it's also just a matter of history and it's just an immutable fact

real mutable facts so true we are a little bit over we did not shout out stuff are we able to do that surge if that's okay because I want to make sure Nino gets a chance to shout out where he's from because he was a great guest oh I appreciate that

I like the ending here I was like I want to be a referee well we have another hour we have another hour so let's do that for the third hour you can start swinging if you want to be right he's wrong Uh, no, just, uh, just tell people where I, where I'm at. Is that what you're saying? Uh, Nino's corner. Yeah, Ninoscorner.comer dot TV. I left the fighting arena, the physical fight of boxing to following everything on the deep state war. That's Ninos corner. It's also Nino's corner on YouTube and Rumble Nino's Corner. X is Nino Boxer. And, uh, that's about it. Thank you guys for tuning in, everybody. I am Alad Eliahu, the White House correspondent here at Tim Kest. I've, did I bomit too hard. Also, I've been on the immigration,

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